The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 448 - Feel Good Friday with Vernon Davis, and Dan Orlovsky

Episode Date: July 9, 2021

On today’s show, Pat and the boys are have their last show from the FanDuel beach hahse and start off the show chatting about all things going on in the sports world, leading off with him and all th...e boys reactions to the Latest NFL news. Pat gets into a little NBA talk, recapping the NBA Finals game two from last night. Former NFL tight end and Super Bowl champion Vernon Davis joins the show to talk a little NFL and chat about his acting career and the eight movies he has coming out soon. Pat Welcomes Dan Orlovsky onto the show as he tries to clear up some comments made earlier this week. Pat closes off the show by wrapping up his opinions on the Connor McGregor and Dustin Poirier in the upcoming UFC 264 event. Make sure to subscribe to  youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up everybody? It is Friday, July 9th. You are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0. You know the drill, Pat had to run to SmackDown and unfortunately this is our last Friday in the Tampa Bay Fan Duel Beach House. Good afternoon. I hope your morning was fantastic. You made it to lunch. Now we got you for the next three, three hours and 15 minutes going into the greatest weekend in the history of weekends. We got Vernon Davis joining us. Let's go. Vernon Davis is the voice of the ESPYs this weekend. The ESPYs is happening this weekend.
Starting point is 00:00:38 It is happening. We just learned about it whenever we got a chance to find out that we get the super bowl champion first round pick out of maryland vernon davis athletic freak superstar uh who is also in six different movies right now yeah six four in post-production he's got two more on the way no i believe six in post-production two more on the way vernon davis has eight movies on the way, six that have currently been shot, two more. He's got to either be dog tired or on the precipice of being the biggest movie star on earth. He'll be the voice of the ESPYs that are happening this weekend, Saturday, 8 o'clock to 11 o'clock on ABC. I have not heard one peep about the ESpy's Other than me maybe being up for one
Starting point is 00:01:26 Yeah That's right WWE I was almost up for WWE moment of the year Whenever I kicked the soul Out of that scumbag's body Hell yeah Which probably led to this entire thing
Starting point is 00:01:38 I ended up losing Bad Bunny and I were against each other His The Bunny The San Benito So they rigged no well it seemed like as soon as i saw who we were matched up against it was a problem you know what i mean guys an international superstar he sold out i think 55 stadiums or something like that 22 minutes
Starting point is 00:01:55 or something it was him yeah it was unbelievable and he got a a golden microphone or a silver microphone from triple h on his way out after wrestlemania. I mean, there was, the odds are stacked. Anyways, other than that, I do not know the SPC, but Vernon Davis is the voice of it. I guess he'll be the guy going. And your next presenter. Yep. Uh-huh. So what's the idea behind that?
Starting point is 00:02:16 You know, how's he going to project? Is there going to be any inflection, any jokes? Are we going to do any promos in there, or is it just strictly business in there? Because now you are a full thespian with eight movies on the way. We'll talk to him about tight end you, football in general, you know. It would be great to catch up with Vernon Davis. He'd been on the show before. Has he been on the show since he did that crying thing on TV?
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yes, I believe so. Did we ask him about it the first time he came on? Yes. Okay, so I assume we did it with and he gave us an answer that we thought was okay uh-huh yeah pretty good that was i mean that was an aggressive decision it led to eight movies though so i don't know what anybody else thinks about that clip i mean it does make its way around the internet every once in a while where somebody asks him i think it's on espn or maybe nfl network i'm not hers or maybe fox wow could be anywhere espn it
Starting point is 00:03:03 is espn and he was asked about his acting, and then he basically said, I have the ability to, and then he goes into a full cry. Yeah. And then they stop, and then they go to commercial? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah. And it was one of the most, okay, all right, well, what just happened there? It was amazing. He can cry on command, which is a big time thespian move. I guess directors, producers,
Starting point is 00:03:27 movie makers saw that, and they're like, get us fucking Vernon Davis. The guy that is faster, can jump higher, seems to be able to cry on command. He's incredibly attractive and yoked and smart. Okay, give us that guy. Triple threat. Does The Rock know what Vernon Davis is doing right now? Look out, Dwayne. Does The Rock know that Vernon Davis is doing right now? Look out, Dwayne. Does The Rock know that Vernon Davis is potentially snooping
Starting point is 00:03:48 around? I know the Iron Paradise is the Iron Paradise. Vernon Davis is Vernon Davis. Are we on a crash course right now of The Rock with Kevin Hart, who's also yoked right now. He's posting himself naked on his Instagram every day because he is in
Starting point is 00:04:03 great shape. Shout out to Kevin Hart. And happy birthday, bud. I've been with Kevin Hart since the Ground and Pound email list days whenever he was just crushing clubs. And he is a monster. But The Rock and Kevin Hart against like Vernon Davis
Starting point is 00:04:19 and Gronk. Is that where we're staring down in the future? Or is it Vernon Davis and John Cena? What are we doing? I do not think The Rock is worried about anyone coming for his crown right now. Vernon Davis has got eight movies. This is the most Rock thing I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:04:36 in my entire life. He's got eight movies on. We didn't know that until what? 25, 30 minutes ago? Yeah, earlier this morning. This changed the entire opening of this show, by the way, because he's on in like 20 minutes or whatever and i was like all right let's start doing some research ty goes holy shit was what ty is this is a lot of movies right oh yeah these aren't like independent films this isn't like blair witch project or is it like that i mean no not necessarily i mean i'm sure a couple of them are a little more low budget but it's very surprising after
Starting point is 00:05:03 covid where like nothing was getting made. And now, you know, I mean, like there's a bunch of movies that basically just got canceled. So to have to be a guy who's relatively new and have eight roles lined up, like that's wild. But I don't think all of his movies combined have the same budget as like The Rock's next movie that's coming out. Why not yet? I mean, remember Tooth Fairy, huh? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Remember those days. Yeah, remember those days. Yeah, remember those days. All right, we'll talk to the next rock, Vernon Davis, in about 20 minutes. And an incredible bounce-back appearance, hopefully, for a guy. Oh, yeah. Who took, what, six weeks off, it seems like? It seems like it. He just popped up on TV yesterday.
Starting point is 00:05:42 He was wearing a polo in the morning on Get Up. He had an incredible tan. Him and Tannenbaum said just wildly outrageous things back and forth to each other. Then in the afternoon, he's on NFL Live after the show looking great, sport jacket on over top of the polo. Wonder if he was told to put the jacket on. Okay, because in the morning I actually said, tan looks good in a polo. He does. He's got good tan.
Starting point is 00:06:02 He looked good. He was rolling his eyes. Dan Orlovsky comes back on the show. Dan Orlovsky will be back. He does. He's got good tan. He looked good. He was rolling his eyes. Dan Orlovsky comes back on the show. Let's go, Dan. Let's go. Come on, Dan. I cannot wait for Dan Orlovsky to bounce back. Every time we talk to him, he says something that makes us all go, come on, Dan.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And then also something goes, good point, Dan. Dan has captivated the masses over there at ESPN. He was on every show there for five, six months straight, basically. Literally every show he'd do. I think he'd do KGZ, then he would do Get Up, then I think he'd do SportsCenter, then he would do NFL Live, and then Scott Van Pelt was like, hey, why don't you come and just sit in the back
Starting point is 00:06:36 and hang out for a little bit? He was on ESPN all day, every day for a while. He has taken some breaks too long. I can't wait to see what's cooking in his brain. What stupid stuff is he going to say today? Because what you said on Twitter about him potentially topping Schrags whenever Schrags put Rivers in there, which, by the way, hey, go Colts. Go Colts. Go Coach.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Go Rivers to the playoffs. People will forget that. But when Schrager said that earlier this week, and you think that Dan Orlovsky will be able to top what Schrags said about adding Rivers to the Peyton, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Phil Rivers. You think that Dan Orlovsky potentially comes in with something a little hotter than that at Boston Corner. I'm not going to lead him there, but there is a chance I ask him, hey, Dan, why is Mac Jones going to win the MVP this year?
Starting point is 00:07:20 Oh, my God. Here, Wade has to say the film that he has watched. Oh, man, he's ready. You couldn't really see it last year because Cam and that offense, there wasn't a lot of weapons. But if you look at the concepts that New England was running and then you add in Mac Jones' ability to pop up, he'll be able to piece together a 17-0 season for the New England Patriots and Mac Jones. They got a really good offensive line, Connor.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I mean, you need to understand that with the running game that they have and the new weapons, he can do it. And Mac Jones, his quarterback, if you look at his skill set, very comparable to other quarterbacks that have been able to dominate with tight ends, is he was called Tom Brady for a reason. And then that will start our entire conversation with him about, okay, Dan, do you have Tom Brady in you too? Because you stand, you throw right-handed, you're white, and you're a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Do you have a little Tom Brady in you, too? Or is Tom Brady potentially what's in between the ears that we all got to try to figure out if he got it or not? That's a good question. And he'll say, yeah, you're right about Tom Brady, but I'll say this. He has Peyton Manning's accuracy. I mean, he could do it, Pat. Maybe. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:22 We haven't heard his most recent film study on Mac Jones. And I do believe, by the way, that Dan Orlovsky is either on television, okay, trying to round up his 45 children. Right. Trying to keep up with his wife. Yep. Okay. Because his wife seems to be the real engine in that whole house. Supermodel.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Exactly. seems to be the real engine in that whole house exactly remember she was going through uh quarantine pranking orlovsky for content on the internet yeah right before he was getting ready to like go on air yeah she was jumping water yeah yeah so he's gonna do that and then i think he just watches film on quarterbacks yeah he always sounds and i think today's finally the day i'm gonna ask him if he's full of shit or not you You know, this is kind of like what Foxy did. This is what Foxy did to the Hammerdown boys who we'll get to here in a couple seconds who are in Indianapolis. And the boys are back being hot.
Starting point is 00:09:13 We'll talk about that in a second. But I'm going to ask Orlovsky. There's no way he watches the amount of film he watches. Yeah, I doubt it. I mean, with how many kids he has, like who has the time? He seems like an early to to bed early to rise kind of guy too yeah he's got to get all that in before his kids get up exactly eight lacrosse practices a week i mean come on there's no way this guy can well and what he's moving all that premier
Starting point is 00:09:34 league lacrosse march every single day he's got to get that out of the bag onto his body onto his head into the car like there's no unless is he on you think he's on his. And then if he's on his phone watching it while he's at his kids practice, is he a bad guy? Yeah. Is he about that? So we kind of put him in the case. We kind of put him in a pretzel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I'm excited for that. That's happening. One Oh five Eastern daylight time. I love talking to Dan, dude. Yeah. He is awesome. I legit Dan Orlovsky,
Starting point is 00:10:01 much like Phil Mickelson, much like, Oh God, who was it? Hasbulla? No. Well, Hasbulla does. Peter Schrager. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Schrager, yes. Thank you. Not Hasbulla. Hasbulla, though, once we underpined, he has as well. But Schrager, Phil Mickelson, Dan Orlovsky, they've all looked in the mirror and bought into exactly who they are. Absolutely confident in it, as they should be. Absolutely comfortable in it. And they are them all the time.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Schrager, he's going to look cooler than everybody else. Yeah. Okay? He's going to say some TV stuff. He's always going to be the same person, person though schrager is always the same phil mickelson has learned how to just be hey i'm phil mickelson yeah that's what i do okay hellacious seeds bombs coffee calves flexibility all this other this is what phil mickelson is orlovsky knows this is what dan orlovsky is yeah at the end he is always Dan Orlovsky.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I caught him on vacation. I caught him on vacation. We're at the same place. He was the same fucking guy. I mean, it was. I know what's going on. And when I was a teammate with him, same exact guy. But whenever you get on TV, I think some people try to potentially change who and what because of how they think they should be portrayed or everything like that.
Starting point is 00:11:22 because of how they think they should be portrayed or everything like that. Dan Orlovsky has maybe tightened it up a little bit, dialed it in a little bit, but he is fully bought into who he is, and he is all the time. So those who hate him, you have to at least appreciate his consistency. And for those of us that like him, as soon as he says something that is completely fucking absurd, we go, ah, it's Dan Orlovsky. That's Dan Orlovsky, by the way. I've been meaning to ask you that. The first time we had him on the podcast you know he was just like very quiet very dry like no energy or anything like was that him putting on for like yes what he thought was
Starting point is 00:11:56 supposed to be who he is now is that more who he was like when you were his teammate when you're friends with him yeah exactly yeah because you hear everybody who's like if you're friends with him he's this type of right if he him, he's this type of guy. Right. If he knows you, he's this type of guy. If he likes you, he's this type of guy. Like, there are people that are like that. And I think, I mean, on air and off air, I am the same person, but I'm only around so many people.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Like, if I'm around new people, I think people would think I'm much different. I am rather quiet whenever I'm around new people because I have no want to i have no idea how this could go i don't know them okay they probably don't know me obviously i don't know how this is going do they hate me potentially who do they know i don't know so i'm normally pretty quiet in reserve but then i but dan i think he was trying to portray what he thought he should be on tv for a little bit and he started out you know on twitter and he started doing breaking down film. Right. Classic.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I mean, there were some other people that started doing that for a bit. Then, you know, he started getting in there. And I remember him coming on the show because I loved watching it because he was teaching me something in these little film studies. But it was fucking Ben Stein doing the thing. Yeah. I remember saying, hey, Dan, like, hey, we're going to get some energy in this. I remember saying, hey, Dan, like, hey, we're going to get some energy in this. And then he has I think he wasn't as comfortable or maybe as confident in himself to people at that time where I was like, no, Dan, you should be.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Because what you're saying in there is so good. And I think he's got to the point now where he's like, OK, the shit that I'm delivering, people do want, do need. And he's become very confident. And I think we're better for it. I think we're better for it as a football community. But he will say some things. Oh, yeah. He'll go, Dana, okay, hold that one in the holster, pal.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Foxy's here. Zito's here. Zito, last day of your production down here alongside Tim McAfee. I cannot say bravo enough. Well done, Z. Well done, Z. You too, Tim McAfee, putting this whole thing together. Got to unpack this whole thing. We appreciate you. Phil Maines was down here for the move in. Not the move out, Z. You too, Tim. I have to see you putting this whole thing together. You've got to unpack this whole thing. We appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Phil Maynes was down here for the move in. Not the move out, though. No. Huh. Only half of CFO Phil got stuff to do. He's got stuff to do. Fair. I think he is doing like a fundraiser this weekend or something.
Starting point is 00:13:56 A golf fundraiser for a team he coaches. What a hockey team. No way. Yeah, he coaches a team. Paul and Puck. Yeah, they stunk this past year. He coaches a team. He's got 10 kids.
Starting point is 00:14:06 He's running for mayor. Yeah. Somehow CFO of a company. Is it Orlovsky or is it Phil Maynes? Nine-figure value company. I don't know how he does it somehow. And he also runs 45 miles a day. I don't know what he does, but hey, Phil.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Say it to Phil. Thank you, Phil. Thank you, Phil. I have no idea how you do it, what you're doing, but I appreciate what you're doing. I can never do it. This is the same thing I said to AJ Hawk. How are you so committed to being such a good adult? Like AJ goes to all these of every event AJ goes to, shaking hands, everything.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I'm like, how are you so committed to that? I hope it comes if I have a little Midas, Michael, you know, and I assume it will come where I want to be there for Midas and everything like that. But all this, you know, you know sideshow extra bullshit curricular handshaking events gatherings that you got to go to for the team I don't think I ever gave my parents enough like hey thank you for all the bullshit you probably had to go to for me to be on a team now my dad and I spent years and years and years in cars together traveling around but I don't even think about the other stuff like hanging out and dealing with the other parents going to when you're doing all the shit that you're there for yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:15:09 birthday parties event fundraisers all this shit aj and phil somehow figure out how to go to all these things and i'll call them in the middle of it and it looks like the depiction of my nightmare the events that they are at and i'm just like i don't know how i don't know how the hell you guys are doing it but cfo phil i appreciate you moving in the boys will move us out the led board has brought so much here yeah this vandal beach house and vandal obviously we have to say a massive thank you too we can't thank you enough bravo to this old piece of wood you did it thank you you made it it was uh it was pretty hysterical concept that came together in a matter of three days. Had to figure it out quickly because obviously the WWE decision was not one that was cooking for a long time. Things had to happen quickly.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Came out of nowhere. We can make that work. We used to do this in a box truck. We can make it work. We just got to find a house in Tampa Bay. Turned out that was impossible. The COVID and the Tampa Bay Lightning and Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Starting point is 00:16:07 and Tom Brady being here and everything being here. Tampa Bay, I believe there's like five cranes downtown right now. This place is blowing up and out of control. And there's no end in sight, by the way. If Tom's going to stay here and if the Lightning can continue to win
Starting point is 00:16:22 with the buildings that are here and the businesses that are here in the businesses that are down here tampa bay was tough to find a place to stay it was tough to find a house got a pocket listing right here on this island we're on found it overpaid for it for sure got a chance to move in zito plugged in what 60 to 70 wires and cords here in every Friday for the last, what, nine, ten weeks, two and a half months. We've been able to go live without damn near any hitches. We were able to do draft night, which had 137,000 people watching at one point. Live from this goddamn living room we're in right now.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And we just can't say thank you enough to everybody. Zito, FanDuel, the WWE for the opportunity to come down here. The boys dedicating your time. Just everybody, thank you so much. Not bad for a regional show. Not bad. It is a little regional show. We tapped into the super humid, hot as fuck region.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Absolutely. Have to. Hey, we were down here for two months or whatever. It was hot. Okay, it was hot down here. It's much hotter down here than it is in Indianianapolis right now in july in tampa bay right now right with this bay right here it might be 200 humidity outside right now oh yeah it is hot as hell down i don't know how florida folks do it and this is why florida people a florida man you know just google that put it in twitter
Starting point is 00:17:46 do whatever you got to do just do it there's a reason they are eating so much sun and heat down here oh yeah you open the door hell is just radiating through i guess you get over it and get through it somehow my body wasn't built for it we are now i'm this is perfect timing i think for this to kind of wrap up. I'm not sure I could continue to go another couple weeks with this heat. It's insane down here.
Starting point is 00:18:10 So I guess congrats to everybody for surviving the fucking heat, though. Yeah, I mean, we walked to the gas station last night at like 10. Why'd you guys walk?
Starting point is 00:18:16 10.30. Just, you know, enjoy Tampa. It's our last weekend. Foxy, did you go? No, I didn't go. I mean, there was a perfectly nice car
Starting point is 00:18:24 they could have took. Why didn't you guys take the car? Well, because in didn't go. I mean, there was a perfectly nice car they could have took. Why didn't you guys take the car? Because in front of that perfectly nice car, there was a perfectly nicer Bentley that I didn't want to rear end, so I just said, hey, you know. Oh, no, you could have took that car, though. Everybody takes that car. I drive the Bentley all the time. Zito drove it. Connor drove it. We thought about it. We wanted to take the car, but we said,
Starting point is 00:18:37 you know what, Todd? This is our last weekend in Tampa. Let's soak it up. Are you guys sure that is what happened? Yeah, that is what happened. I also had two beers on the plane. I'm not going to get out of here. And? What?
Starting point is 00:18:50 You know, maybe a couple puffs of a marijuana cigarette. What? But it was fine. Go ahead with those little mini vodkas, too. What? Go ahead with that wine. What? Go ahead with that what?
Starting point is 00:19:03 Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai?
Starting point is 00:19:04 Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Chai? Go ahead with that what? Chai? You had a big old... Captain Morgan? These boys. Diggs, obviously, we have a couple of alcoholics in the company, and that is something we will have to work through. I will have to get advisors and counselors in the office staff because there are a couple of people that are in my life that are way too young to be acting the way that they are acting,
Starting point is 00:19:23 behaving the way they are behaving. Diggs, if you would have seen how high Ty was yesterday, last night, this guy could barely get out of the house to get to the gas station. You hear me, Diggs? Diggs Gumpy. Congrats on being back, Hammerdown boys. Got hot back on a diamond last night. We got the Euros finals this weekend, a bunch of super boosts.
Starting point is 00:19:43 How are you guys feeling? What's on the show today? The docket, if you will. you will so i mean you talking there it just all is right in the world you're gonna buy the pittsburgh pirates ty doesn't know his name or where he's at yeah okay yeah he's married now too by the way this is there's a huge fight with a capacity crowd in Las Vegas this weekend. We were incredible betting baseball last night. Brazil and Italy are both going to win major tournaments in soccer. And lastly, and the thing that proves that the world is completely back. Foxy completely fucked over the Milwaukee Bucks last night and lost everyone money.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yeah, that was tough, dude. I hammered that very, very strong. And once we landed, we flew a little later last night. So we got in a little later, which was still, you know, so impressive for the state of mind that Ty got to in a little bit of time. And he had a long side. Interesting. I remember you saying you wanted to make the trip with us, and right after we partook in a safe thing, yeah, I'm going to go to bed.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah. Hey, we got slapped last night right in the face. I don't know what that particular thing was. Shout out to Dalton, by the way. Shout out to our guy Dalton down here. You've been a hero, pal. I wish I would have met you this morning, but I mean, I was still passed out from that entire thing. The Bucs obviously get worked again last night in Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So much so that Kendrick Perkins led off first take today asking, is the Bucs the dumbest team in the history? And that's a, by the way, Perk needs to get off of that meme where people are saying who's the worst sports commentator get his ass off of it listen you think he says dumb shit we got a rolovsky on 35 we say dumb shit all the time all the time the way he says the dumb shit in the good shit is so entertaining i don't know how people don't like the big perk he led off today's show talking about is the bucks the dumbest why are they asking that question for the nba people why why is everybody asking if the bucks is the
Starting point is 00:21:51 dumbest and why is that coach getting fired he's in the fucking finals how what's going and he has the mvp is what is is that why because the honest is so good and everybody else stinks i think the dumbest part that they're he's alluding to is the paying Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday, kind of the number two and number three guys, you know, $150-plus million when in the finals they're not doing really a goddamn thing. And someone did a little comparison to last year's Eric Bledsoe versus Drew Holiday,
Starting point is 00:22:19 the guy they traded to the Pelicans for, and they had the exact same thing, except they're paying one guy $200 million versus Eric Butts, who's going to be a free agent. So Giannis has no help, always has had no help, and they didn't do anything to kind of get him over the hump, and that's why they're down 2-0. Okay, but they're in the finals, which is further than they were last year,
Starting point is 00:22:37 right, the Heat and who the Lakers were in last year. Watch that game, though, and just watching a couple thousand dollars drift out of my account because Foxy, the hashtag follow Foxy hottest gambler in the office. Just knowing NBA, by the way, he knows that I don't know the NBA. He knows the NBA. He comes out and then what Mitt hopped in. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And then I think the entire team kind of got on board because it was a team bet. And it is back to hashtag fade Foxy season transitioning out of Foxy trying to ruin us. It is back to hashtag fade Foxy season. Transitioning out of Foxy trying to ruin us, and we'll get back to the Hammerdown boys in Indianapolis because they are an ATM once again, just like they have been for the better part of like two, three months at this point. It's absurd. What have you done for us lately?
Starting point is 00:23:15 They have won in the fall. Let's hope they will continue to do that. Joining us now is a man who's about to win, I think. Oh, yeah. Like win, win. Win, win, win. Win, win, win. Win win win win allegedly and we don't know if these facts are right or not it was a mind boggling stat that we read on the internet
Starting point is 00:23:34 this morning this man has eight movies lined up six of them that are already in post-production two of them that would mean are still shooting or still to be shot. Might be the next rock in this entire thing. He is the voice of the ESPYs, which will air this Saturday on ABC at 8 Eastern Daylight Time. Super Bowl champion, ladies and gentlemen, Vernon Davis. Hey, what's going on, man? How you doing, man? How are you?
Starting point is 00:24:06 I'm doing well. Vernon, I'm doing well as well. It is great to chat with you again. I have just a couple quick things we have to hit here, all right? We let off the entire show with this stat that we read about your acting career thus far. You have eight roles lined up, six of them already shot, two more on the way or currently shooting. Are you about to take over the entire—are about to take over hollywood right now vernon you know what i'm just having fun i'm working on the craft and just you know just at the end of the
Starting point is 00:24:33 day that's all you have to do is just have fun with it and as long as you're enjoying it and you know uh it's something that you're passionate about then you know you just everything else comes with it what are you doing are you beating the hell out of people? You, are you CIA agent? You, uh, are you a dad? Are you, what are we doing? What's the role? Are we going typecasting yet where you're just shirtless couple wristbands on killing everybody, jumping over people? Are we there yet? Where are we in the, and is there range in this eight?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Are you trying to find your lane still what what is it going on because i read a headline that said uh much like everybody who has kind of gotten into a career post football they've all said i hope my post career is so good that people have to be reminded that i played football you said that about your acting career many others have said that it's a it's a goal it's a dream have you found it what are these eight roles are they all similar what are we doing yeah no they're all different i wanted to start with horror then i wanted to get into thriller and then i wanted to go to action i i wanted to get into sci-fi i just wanted to do you die hey you die in one of these horrors oh uh in one of the action films
Starting point is 00:25:38 yeah i died oh no no spoiler damn spoiler is it no hey is it a good death like did you Oh, no. No. Spoiler. Damn. Spoiler. I know. Hey, is it a good death? Like, did you? Is it like a full? You know what I mean? Is it a full one? Yeah, every once you just got to get popped in the head. Like, oh, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:25:55 That's awesome. We are so incredibly happy for you. I want to let you know. And anytime an NFL player goes on and dominates, I think the rest of the NFL community is so happy. This weekend, you're the voice of the ESPYs. What does that mean? Are you projecting? Do you have just a set amount of words you're allowed to say, or is there a little personality
Starting point is 00:26:11 in there, and how did you get this role? Yeah, it's just, I'm pretty much the MC. If you ever watch the ESPYs, you hear a voice when the host is not talking. That'll be me. That'll be my role. It's a lot of dialogue. I'll be on camera from time to time but uh yes it's a pretty cool role the opportunity came across and my manager
Starting point is 00:26:32 henry pinsey asked me that i did i want to take it on uh i was like yeah sure i i think um you know anytime there's a challenge and it presents itself um you know i try not to back down from because you never know uh if that's something that you'll eventually love. You know what I mean? So you try it, and if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. If it works, it works. Okay, so let's say you love this. Are you like the voice of the Golden Globes now all of a sudden?
Starting point is 00:26:58 Is there other jobs in this particular facet? Has Espy's always had guest emcees, or is this something that we have missed, or are you the first? Is it normal? How does it go? No, this is the first time they ever had an athlete as the MC. Let's go! Here we go.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Changing the game. Changing the game. That's what we like, Vernon. That's what we like there. Yeah. Yeah, so it's the first time, which is pretty cool. You know, it's history. You know, it's history.
Starting point is 00:27:25 So, you know, like I said, it's a great opportunity. I couldn't pass on it. And, you know, I'm going to make sure I'm out there and I'm having fun. And hopefully it's a good show. Hey, we mentioned this, and it makes its way around the Internet every other month or so. Whenever you just cried on command, was that on ESPN? Oh, my goodness. That oh my goodness that was terrible that was terrible okay all right okay hey listen you say that we don't okay we got no we don't
Starting point is 00:27:50 think it was quite a moment it's still going around i was about to say did that happen and then you immediately got jobs after that was that because you hey because i found out you were like fucking in hey i heard you were like that's how i learned like, oh, this dude is in, in on like that. That's that clip. I was like, OK, he's committed to the craft. And I think a lot of people now I'm not. Hey, listen, I'm no thespian, OK? I can't cry.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I don't think I mean, I could cry, I guess. I couldn't tell you the last time. It's been a while, but it's the whole thing. That's when I learned like, oh, this guy really wants to do it, though. And I think I did a lot of people. Is that like a moment for you where you started getting jobs or gigs or how has the process been uh no i don't know it's just um it's like one of those things if you're into something if you want it it's law of attraction like it it finds you you know what i mean it's one of those things if you're if you really want to do something that's
Starting point is 00:28:38 in your heart you're passionate about it you're putting the work in you're not just out there just doing it but you you're you're really putting the work in uh you'll always you know be successful at it but you have to do the work it's a process the preparation is the biggest key to all of that and when it comes to just the emotions you want to be connected with something that's why i said when you said that the video of me crying on espn that was i just did it you know what i mean it just, I wasn't connected to a certain thing, right? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:09 And acting is all controlled. You know, you don't have to show tears all the time. You don't have to be emotional because it's all in your eyes, right? If it's in your eyes, it works, right? But as long as you have an opinion about something, you know where you're coming from and where you're going, you're solid. Hey, that whole, you know, like're coming from and where you're going, you're solid. Hey, that whole, you know, like the universe, if you put it out, it'll come back.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Did you watch that documentary on Netflix about the positive forces, how there is actually some scientific proof that if you put positive shit out, there is a want to say like the spiritual but the positives you know like the yoga the the deep thinking the spiritual stuff meditation have you gotten into all that post football or did you do that during football as well i did the meditation and um just all the law of attraction stuff when i was playing football it's just something that just i just carried along with me because i mean it's it's positive. It's just positive energy, positive people, positive affirmations, just everything. Whenever you have that in your life, you're always going to attract positive things. Do you think, was there ever a moment, is there a reason why you started doing that? Because there for a while, right, was there one moment? Was there any moment?
Starting point is 00:30:25 Because we all saw you were, I mean, when you came on the scene, I mean, at Maryland you were obviously a stud, but everybody remembers the combine, and everybody remembers, hey, there is a guy, okay, who is going to change the game. And by the way, it's now become like the blueprint almost for what a lot of, I mean, Kyle Pitts has come out and been like, hey, okay, and there's like the tight end position, which we will talk about, has graduated immensely.
Starting point is 00:30:50 It is now one of the most important positions, not that it wasn't when you were there, but then we saw it all unfold publicly. We you were made into a star. And when you become a star, no matter what happens, good or bad, it gets covered. You and obviously Singletary had some moments in their whole thing. good or bad it gets covered you and obviously Singletary had some moments in that whole thing was there any moments or was just just natural emotion or evolution and maturity as you're kind of growing older and experiencing things I think it's just the the maturity and it's like you said growing older and experiencing things it's um you adapt and you want more for yourself and I want it more for myself I want it to do more I wanted to be more and just hold myself accountable. And holding myself accountable is making sure that I'm doing the right thing.
Starting point is 00:31:30 The Rock says something on his Instagram. He said, it's not about how much money you have or what kind of car you drive. It's all about how you make people feel. And for me, that's important to me, you know. But in order to do all of these good things, I had to be right with myself. And being right with myself is doing the right thing all the time consistently. And that's what I try to practice. You know, it's just important to me to be that way and expect good things.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Don't you like, there was a moment where I was just sick of being like a stupid person. Like, I was like, all right, I'm sick of putting myself in this particular situation. Like I'm sick of like I had one of those moments where it was like I'm tired of being potentially in this situation, this situation, like natural growth came. I couldn't have fathomed having to go through what, you know, being the star that you were with the situations you went through and then how it all ended up panning out with you becoming this incredible philanthropist, traveling around team to team, being loved, Super Bowl champion, going back to Washington, where you're from. I mean, it's really remarkable, Vernon.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I think you should be incredibly proud of that shit. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. It means a lot. Hey, no problem at all. Let's talk a little bit about football, shall we, though? The tight end you. Have you heard about this?
Starting point is 00:32:42 And how do you feel about the tight ends potentially coming together and saying, here's some tricks of the trade, but also business wise, this is what we should be thinking and asking for, because I think that is also a large part of the tight end you. How do you feel about it? What are your thoughts on the tight end position as a whole? Yeah, I think that's good. I think anytime you can come together and share that information, share a gift that you have to help others is always phenomenal because, you know, a lot of young tight ends come in this league and they don't have the formula for success and the formula for success. Yeah, it's consistency, but it also has to do with the things that you know, what you know will help you, what you don't know will hurt you. And what they're doing is they're sharing that information they're sharing their gift their secrets uh with the ones who don't who aren't familiar familiar with it um
Starting point is 00:33:29 and as far as the other side like this is what we should be asking for that's just um being strategic that's being that's being um intelligent smart sharp it's thinking outside the box. And what they're doing is they're trying to change. They're changing their perspective about how we approach this thing, approach this game. So you're not just approaching it as an athlete who's trying to, you know, turn himself into like a real pro, right? But a pro is well-rounded. You know, you're a businessman, you're business savvy,
Starting point is 00:34:10 and you also understand what this business is about. So I think it's phenomenal. I think it's a no-brainer. It's something that needed to be done, and I applaud them for doing that. How's your brother? How's Vontae doing? I see he is just living. Does he just have timeshares all over the world?
Starting point is 00:34:26 He might live the best life I have seen on the internet right now. He's living out there. Yeah, he and his wife, that's all they do is travel. That's awesome. That's their thing. They just travel all the time. I know he has a business called V-Zone that he's promoting and that he got off the ground. But his wife and him, that's what they enjoy.
Starting point is 00:34:47 They're having fun. They're living life. They don't have any kids. So they're just traveling, seeing the world. Hey, this dude, he's skiing in Aspen one week. And then like three days later, I see him hopping off of like a dock into like the— I'm like, this dude, good for you. You deserve it, Vontae, by the way as do you vernon good
Starting point is 00:35:06 luck with everything a couple questions from the boys here go ahead connor yeah vernon uh speaking of the tight end you have you thought about starting a possible thespian you for smart former athletes who are trying to make that same transition into acting yeah you know what i thought about it i thought about it but for me right now um i just want to make sure I'm well versed in this space before I can give that that kind of information. You know what I mean? Self-awareness. I'm just you know, I'm new at this. I'm still learning. I've been in it for about a year and a half now. So once I get going the way I expect myself to get going with this, it's then I can share all of the things that that I've learned and that I'm learning. You know what I mean? I just want to gain all the possible information that I can have. You love it, huh? You love, love it. Oh yeah, I love it. I love it. I think it's phenomenal. I mean, it's a form of
Starting point is 00:35:57 art. It allows me to express myself in ways that I can't normally express myself. You know what I mean? And acting, this is what you can do. You know, imagine going to like a drive-thru, right? And the lady messed your order up. But, you know, as the good person that you are, there's two sides to us, right? There's the side that says, oh, no, it's okay. No worries. But then there's the side that, you know, you want to come out and say, why did you
Starting point is 00:36:22 mess my order up? How did you do that? Like, that doesn't make sense. I told you what I wanted. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's the side that you can act, that you can do in acting.
Starting point is 00:36:31 That's the role that you're playing. You know what I'm saying? You can do that in acting. So that's what I'm saying. It allows you to show that other side that you wouldn't normally show. You know what I mean? Because we know it's not right,
Starting point is 00:36:44 but we all have that in it. It's an instinct that we have as human beings, and everybody has it. But that's when you use it in acting. Yeah. Maybe you become a heel, too, in wrestling. It's a great time. I had a little bit of a run here for a couple months with the NXT, and I was just looking people right in their faces
Starting point is 00:37:01 and telling them how stupid they were. It was a great time. It was a blast. They were booing me. I was booing them right back their faces and telling them how stupid they were. It was a great time. It was a blast. I have. They were booing me. I was booing them right back. I let them know they sucked. It was a it was a great time there.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Go ahead, Ty. Vernon, I can't remember if you maybe did a little bit right after you retired. But did you ever consider getting into like the media side of things and, you know, trying to get a job on like Fox or ESPN or anything like that? Or was it always did you know that you wanted to go act when you were done playing football? I explored the possibilities of being a broadcaster and a commentator, but I just, as I explored it while I was playing and I found that it wasn't really doing anything for me.
Starting point is 00:37:42 You know, I didn't feel like I was in a space where I could fully express myself, you know, just talking about football. But then I turned to acting and that gave me that outlet that I was looking for. So that, you know, it pretty much gave me my answers that's why i'm i'm so i'm just elated that i was able to explore those things before i started playing ball before i stopped playing ball because now you know i can just i know where i want to go i know the direction that i'm going i know what i want to do right after i'm done have they given you some um like example mc lines for you to read this weekend do you have any and have you want to workshop a couple here real quick while we're together on maybe how I would approach it,
Starting point is 00:38:28 you know, what I would think about doing. And by the way, I would never get offered this job. So maybe it's like, you know what I mean? Have they given you some things you might have to say? Have you already started practicing? Has there been rehearsals? This is coming up. This is tomorrow night, 8 o'clock Eastern on ABC.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Let's go. Have you gotten started? We got rehearsals today. What's going on? Yeah, no, I started about five, six days ago. Started working five, six days, recorded some stuff. I came here.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I actually had a rehearsal yesterday. I got another rehearsal today. Here we go. But yeah, just familiarizing myself with the words, the verbiage, you know what I mean? There's different ways you can say it, of course, but you want to be, make sure you come across, enunciate, say everyone's names right. There we go.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And get the information out. But I want to say it differently. I want to be silly with it. Yes. But it might be too much. No. Vernon, listen, let them dial you back, dude. Hey, you're the first person ever getting to do this.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Okay, so this means that you get to, by the way, you're the one that gets to figure out how far and where i think you got it you feel like you i feel like you have pretty good self-awareness here yeah ask if you're going to teach people uh how to act you're like i don't i don't really know what i'm doing yet i don't know if that's right that's good self-awareness it feels like so i think you'll know if it's good or not i think the internet will tell you quickly as well so i think you'll get a good feel for it but you can't just be the basic ass bland no can't do that can't do that vernon no way you're vernon fucking davis dude there's only what like five six people probably in the history of the earth that can do what
Starting point is 00:40:00 vernon davis could do remember that oh i Oh, I appreciate that, baby. Appreciate that. Enjoy yourself, man. What is the line, though? Can I hear what an example of like, because I'm trying to figure out, is it like your presenter from movie, insert name a movie here, and is that the lines that we're going to hear from you? Yeah, it's a lot of different things.
Starting point is 00:40:18 It's like coming up next, we have Alicia Keys coming out. Nice. Like tosses like that. Coming up next, we have Alicia Keys coming out. Nice. Welcome to the 2021 ESPYs on ABC. Here we are. Hey, that's some powerful words right there. Welcome to the 2021 ESPYs live on ABC. That's a big, hey, that's big words right there, Vernon.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah, it's cool. It's cool.'s cool welcome to the 2021 sbs on abc sir is that what you're gonna do is that what you're gonna do are you gonna do that there's some range there hey there's some range there you can work with good luck enjoy yourself we can't wait to hear it and if you do terribly which you won't but if you feel like you did who cares just keep it moving you got't, but if you feel like you did, who cares? Just keep it moving. You got eight movies coming out.
Starting point is 00:41:08 You're about to dominate, man. We can't thank you enough for joining us. Good luck tomorrow night at the ESPYs. Ladies and gentlemen, Vernon Davis. Thank you, Vernon. Thank you. People go through many changes as we get older, isn't that right? Oh, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:41:40 My God. So if you live to 130, you ain't got shit left. No. Minus 30. Well, if it starts around 30, this is one of those questions on a test where, you know, begins around 30 in the testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. So does it start at zero or does it start at 30?
Starting point is 00:42:01 That's the thing. This is where they can get you. It's one of them damn word problems. This is one of those rounds where you're like, oh, wait a minute. Can I ask a follow-up? Anyways, I was good at those tests because I always viewed it as me versus the fucking teacher. That's right. I don't know what's
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Starting point is 00:43:55 137,500 people watching at one point on draft night, and I don't think it was when this man was on the phone, but it was at some point during his show that this man was on the phone. This man was a friend of mine, a teammate of mine back in Indianapolis. He actually almost lost us, Andrew Luck, by winning us games at the end of the year in a redemption tour. So he wouldn't be the only quarterback to be on two oh and 16 teams he said not on my watch almost sent andrew luck to i think the rams who had the number two overall pick that washington inevitably would go on to trade 15 first rounders for you get it just could have changed the course of everything good guy then he gets into tweeting about his mindset and his brain in the quarterback
Starting point is 00:44:46 position we tell him what you're doing right now dan is incredibly insightful incredibly intelligent but it lacks all of the entertainment level that you could possibly ever need to potentially be watchable what dan has done since those days on twitter to now on ESPN. Every single show has been nothing short of mesmerizing. Now when he's on the television, he is must watch. Yesterday morning, it was his first time back on Get Up in like seven to eight weeks. He had a polo on, a beautiful tan. He was side-eyeing. This guy's charisma and brain are at a level that we all wish to see. Everybody that steps on a television screen is at, ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orszlovski.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah! There it is. Premier League lacrosse hat pitch right there at the beginning. What's going on, dude? What's up, bud? How are you? Did you get my video? I did get your video.
Starting point is 00:45:42 We tried to run it as a commercial. I was talking to Thespian Vernon Davis, though, when he said I didn't get to watch it at the time. Was that acting in the video, or were you really just get done working out like something fierce? No, I cannot act. I just got done getting a workout trying to look like you, so I figured I'd send you a quick video.
Starting point is 00:45:58 I was in between, like, do I shower, or do I stay disgusting for the McAfee show when I showered? Oh, see, we thought we would be a show like hey we want uh we want the post game presser yeah we want the post lift the post the the sweat the hair your hair looked unbelievable you're tan for whatever reason probably because the blood was it was just radiating it feels like we missed out and why don't you do that on espn why don't you do the post espn guy we missed out. Why don't you do that on ESPN? Why don't you do the post-ESPN guy on ESPN, Dan? Why don't you give them a little bit of a, you know, a little raw, genuine post-workout Dan Orlovsky brain sesh, pal?
Starting point is 00:46:34 I think that would fly over that well looking that way on television. So next time I come on, I will go work out before and come on disgusting. Dan Orlovsky, I said it in in the intro and you probably missed half of it because zeta was trying to call you we were having a little bit of an issue so it was a little bit of a prolonged introduction a lot of very kind things were said about you i won't let you know that just strictly because tech wasn't working okay so a lot of great things were said about you but it's real we missed you when you weren't on tv you came back great tan yesterday morning on get up you came out firing.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I mean, it was great to see you back, Dan. We missed you over here. Thank you, bud. I appreciate that. Yeah, it was good to be back. I've had some time with the family and hanging out, and I'll do a little bit more of that over the next month or so, and then August comes back. Here's my thing when I go on television.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I learned this a little bit on my own journey, and I've learned it a little bit from you. A lot. I watch you. I on television. I learned this a little bit on my own journey, and I've learned it a little bit from you. A lot. I watch you. I study you. I try to learn from you. Dude, if you go on television and say stuff that anybody in the world can say,
Starting point is 00:47:35 you're boring. Terrible. I think most – this is something that I've stumbled upon over the last year. If you're scared to be wrong, you're never going to be good on television. And you just got to be willing to sit there and be wrong and wear it. And if you do that, that's a great talent of yours. You're willing to be wrong and wear it.
Starting point is 00:47:57 I mean, you know what I mean? Scared takes don't make no banks. You know what I mean? That is kind of what they say out here in takeville. Let's, let's talk about a couple couple takes that were debuted yesterday, not by you, but by somebody that was a general manager in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:48:10 I think, at two different places. Old Tannenbaum, I don't know him personally. Okay, I don't know this guy personally. Yesterday, he was on a tear. Baker Mayfield can get it. Too short, too slow to win a championship. They give him a deal. They're binding
Starting point is 00:48:25 themselves to mediocrity that's what he said you were on the screen at the same time and you're i think you were even taking like i just got off vacation this and then he said ben roethlisberger stinks he's gonna get benched this guy is tearing your face you literally seem to be caught off guard a couple times with tanenbaum yesterday he was trying to out orlovsky orlovsky to orlovsky and orlovsky's debut back it was great television but there was some stuff that was said there by tanenbaum that was absurd what are you guys doing over there you guys get too much sun you guys just start cooking up absurd shit right now over there or do you believe any of this i stand on my own so that you guys think i'm not with that um when he said the Baker stuff
Starting point is 00:49:05 like too short and too slow Drew Brees won a Super Bowl Russell Wilson's like one of the most successful quarterbacks in the last decade he's not tall and it's just like we if you go back in time to 2018 August 25th or April 25th when the Browns took Baker number one and you tried to write like hey in three years the ideal situation would be this it'd be exactly where like Baker and the Browns would be and I'm sitting there like dude there's no way there's just no way that you can sit there and for the guy who's been thrust into a plate like Baker should have failed by now, should have been an absolute failure by now with what he went through.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And I'm sitting there like, Mike T, there's no way that you honestly sit there and say mediocrity. I mean, his name's etched in the NFL history books. And then the Big Ben one was shocking to me because I bet you most people don't know what Big Ben has done the last two years as a starter. You know, like, I think most people are like, oh, Big Ben done the last two years as a starter you know like i think most people are like oh big ben's probably thrown for like 20 touchdowns and eight dude in the last like two years as a starter he's got like 90 80 touchdowns and 30 picks like or somewhere
Starting point is 00:50:16 close to 70 touchdowns and 31 picks like guy's been playing good football and so i sat there and i said wait you mean to tell me that you think it's better for the steelers to go to duane haskins eight games in over big ben like that's that's what that implied and if he believes that he believes that i just certainly do not okay so you're a big film study guy in dig saw this entire tanenbaum exchange i think he has a question about roethlisberger's future or maybe why you didn't bury tanenbaum harder digs is back in indianapolis digs what he got yeah dan to your point i mean he was 33 and 10 last year and then the year before that he was hurt in the year and then the year before that when he was full-time
Starting point is 00:50:58 starter he led the league in passing yards so i don't get what fucking tanenbaum's problem is um do you but like with mac canada and the new offense, does Ben, like, does he have to go under center more? Does he have to be more open to doing things that he did in the past? What will make Ben more successful or the team more successful besides running the ball on the O-line? Yeah, Diggs, I said this yesterday, dude. Like, I got no clue what that offense is going to look like,
Starting point is 00:51:23 and that's tough for me to say because i my ego tries to take pride in like figuring out what things or people people and teams are going to try and do before they do them i just don't know what it's going to look like because the offensive line still should be bad you know it's new bodies but they they're not dudes so they still should be poor i think like the fundamentally they have to at least commit to the process of having a run game. And that doesn't mean that you turn around on first down and constantly run the football because I'm going to throw it on first down, guy. But they're going to have to put Big Ben underneath a little bit and be willing to present to the defense, we are committed to running the ball at you.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Because it is a little different when the quarterback goes under the ability to just run at people rather than when they're in the gun. Things are a little bit more horizontal and you can see things easier as a linebacker. So, yeah, I definitely think that. I also think they've got to play more vertical. They played so horizontal last year. They've got to play more vertical. Deontay's got to catch the ball but I don't think the offense I'd say this if we fast forward six months the Pittsburgh Steelers offense is bottom of the
Starting point is 00:52:35 NFL bottom third of the NFL I'm not going to say that it's because of Big Ben I think it still would be because of the offensive line just like it was last year yeah offensive line you have to have one it doesn't matter what type of offense you are if you're it was last year. Yeah, offensive line, you have to have one. It doesn't matter what type of offense you are. If you're a pass-heavy offense, you need an offensive line that can pass it. If you're a running offense, you need an offensive line. Never gets talked about the big hogs, but down there at O-Line Masterminds, they're sharing some tips and tricks, and maybe they'll get even better. Orlovsky, before the boys who have a couple good questions for you,
Starting point is 00:53:01 I got a chance to hear them earlier, you know, because whenever you come on, everybody gets excited. Hey, everybody gets excited about Dan Oshlovsky, okay? Good big Swagoo gear there, too. It is great to... Are you full of shit? Hey, listen, I need to know, because you just said something there very self-aware,
Starting point is 00:53:17 and that was cool to hear, actually, and it is what reminded me to ask you this question. Every time you go on TV, like, for instance, I mean, your Carson Wentz stuff before it now, reminded me to ask you this question every time you go on tv like for instance i mean your carson went stuff before it now you you live and die by the film that you have studied whenever you go out and you talk about somebody it feels like you have seen most of their reps you have 55 children and your wife is funnier than you are how do you have a much how do you have enough time to watch all this film people are saying not us okay we would not say this there has been some
Starting point is 00:53:54 rumblings back there people saying full shit people saying you're not watching all that film do you watch all that film and how do you how do you do it because whenever you go out and you lay out an argument you have to have all that stuff behind you i don't know how you have the time who has the time when you're on tv eight hours a day to watch all the film that you watch are you just fully all in football for all football season or how does it play i watch every single snap i watch every nfl snap by thursday morning of the game week because then i have to prep for college football. I've watched every snap from last season. I've watched I would say I've watched
Starting point is 00:54:27 half the league more than once by now. Dude, I'm not a sleeper. I'm not a big sleeper. I got triplets that are 10, so I haven't slept in 10 years. Dude, this is what I do. You know NFL game pass. Shout out to
Starting point is 00:54:44 NFL game pass. Shout out. They haven't done shit for us, but yeah. But so Sunday morning comes Sunday game start at one o'clock. I got like four or five games on that. I think are going to be most important. I watch all those games all the way up until the seven o'clock hour, right? The one o'clock and the four 30 kicks. Yeah. Seven o'clock and eight 30. I got like 90 minutes. I will rewatch two games and NFL game pass on like the condensed version.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And the condensed version is just a play. It's the broadcast, but it's just a play. No commercials, no chit-chat in between. It's just a play. I can get the two most important games re-watched then. Then I'll watch Sunday Night Football. I'll wake up Monday morning at about 3, 3.30. I'll hop Sunday Night Football. I'll wake up Monday morning at about 3, 3.30. I'll hop in the car.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I'll watch two or three more games that we will talk about Monday morning on the condensed version. Get done with work in the morning in New York. Hop in the car to Bristol. I'll watch two or three more games, condensed version, on the way to Bristol. No way you're doing this. No. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:55:41 Are you over there just give me every piece of Adderall that you have in the tri-state area. How do you have the mental conditioning to just watch film, watch film, watch film all day, every day? You just absolutely love it, huh? That's like the thing you would. Yeah. I'm a loser. You know, like that's what. Self-awareness is high today.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. That's what I did as a player. You know, like that's all I-awareness is high today yeah uh two that's what i did as a player you know like that's all i did you know watch film three my ego like i don't want anybody else to find something before i do so you know that's part of it um i don't want to be on television talking about something i haven't seen because you get exposed to the internet i and i watch by the way i i try to watch literally every single game. I have six TVs basically everywhere that I watch games at. It's just I try to watch it because I don't want to watch Red Zone either because it gets rid of the flow of the game.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I like to see how a team is doing. It is difficult, though. And then you'll get up there in front with your stupid iPad up there, and you will do this. Look what I found here from this second and four in the middle of the second quarter and this leads to this fourth quarter four minute drive offense decision that was made I'm like how does this guy find it you literally I think have to look at it all now you've missed a lot so film has lied to you they say the eye in
Starting point is 00:57:03 the sky doesn't lie that has lied to you a They say the eye in the sky doesn't lie. That has lied to you a lot. You have said some things that have been very dumb, but some of the stuff that you have said has been so profound. It's why we miss you, bud, because we know that you're putting in the work, so whenever you say it, we can be like, okay, there's a reason Dan is saying this. What is it? Let's get to it. Connor, what's your question? Yeah, Dan, can you explain to the people why Mac Jones will win
Starting point is 00:57:24 Offensive Rookie of the year and possibly the mvp and then quick follow-up why is the logo on your hat trying to run off your head right now it's a great question two great questions oh uh it's a sticker that probably oh no no they got some bullshit little head like look at look at how strapped in this is. Like, I got a little head, so the pressure on this logo is under. It's like you asking a girl on a date a high amount of time. Oh! That would never happen, Dan. Some jokes on you, idiot.
Starting point is 00:57:57 I think he kind of shot his shot at Lisa Ann earlier. Hey, Lisa. I think he's going to be really good in New England. I think he's going to be really good in New England. I think that they're going to go back 25 years to the style of football that they play. Yes. I think the league is going to go spread out. I think the Patriots are going to shrink down and just smash football and run it a ton. I think Mack will own the line of scrimmage and be super accurate with the ball.
Starting point is 00:58:23 MVP is a little bit of a stretch, a little bit of a ton. I think Mack will own the line of scrimmage and be super accurate with the ball. MVP is a little bit of a stretch. A little bit of a stretch. But I think rookie of the year is probably a little bit of a stretch too. I think he's going to be good. Who's rookie of the year then? Rookie of the year? I got to think of who he's drafted. First pick was... Oh, this guy
Starting point is 00:58:39 stinks. He's on a vacation. You don't even have your fastball anymore. This guy, you don't even know the rookies anyway. This is unbelievable. Hey, let's get back, huh? Let's get back you don't even know the rookies anyway this is unbelievable hey let's get back huh let's get back into it let's stop breaking hats all right let's get back into it the um have you we thought for sure when we let off the show talking about him asking that question we thought you were for sure gonna say you know from the film that i saw the intangibles that mac jones has with the offense that new england is putting together with those two tight ends. All signs point that Mac Jones absolutely dominating here.
Starting point is 00:59:09 We thought that was going to happen, but you got your hat broken. You kind of got distracted. You kind of lost it. You don't even remember who the rookies are now. Dan, let's get off it. Oh, to hell with Premier League lacrosse. There's another lacrosse company, by the way. There's another league coming out.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Oh, that's the only one? No, it's the only one that sent me a hat. Oh, okay. Shout out. So your allegiances are buying due to the free merch. Hey, Kaminsky, shout out. Hey, shout out. Hey, Kaminsky.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Shout out. Who, Frank Kaminsky's on the... Frank? Frank the Tank? He's a part of Premier League Lacrosse. What are you drinking, Pat? This is green tea, dude. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Green tea. What's wrong with regular tea? I like the taste. Is there sugar in it? None. Huh? Good for you. What are you drinking, Becker?
Starting point is 00:59:59 I see you're fine China. You live well. You play lacrosse. You do the super white stuff. You got triplets. What are you drinking over there? You do whiskey, scotch, wine. What do you
Starting point is 01:00:07 upscale whites with a lot of kids try to get drunk? Are you a big wine guy? That's a microwave and a coffee pot. Over your other shoulder. Those are wine glasses. My wife. Thomas, like exactly what I just said.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I mean, you tried to do the whole like blocking that whole thing. I don't know what. That's my wife's cabinet. Oh, you have your own scotch cabinet or what do you do to kind of drink away the sorrows? I don't drink. I don't, I can't drink scotch. True story. So, um, my freshman year at UConn, I had never drank before going into college.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I never drank in high school. So going to college, it's like our first time. I think it's our first weekend up there. I got a buddy from Florida, a dude named Mike Kota. She's like Captain Morgan and Coke, right? So he's got this hand. Captain and Coke. Captain and Coke.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I had the first one. I'm like, this is nothing. This tastes like cream soda. And I have like four of them. Never drank before. Buddy's like, yo, slow down, dude. I have like four of them never drank before but he's like yo slow down dude I'm like this is nothing I drink like half of the handle in an hour we go out to a place on Yukon's campus called Husky Blues I'm there for like three minutes and they ordered a round of drinks and I was like here fellas here's a credit card I don't even know how I had a credit
Starting point is 01:01:22 card or a debit card or something like that. Threw it in. I was like, I got to go to the bathroom. I'm walking to the bathroom. Dude opens up the bathroom door and I just poltergeist all over him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Time for the old dark alcohol for Dan. Hey, what was that other terrible shit that was around at that time? Captain and Coke had its run.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Rum and Coke had its run. What was that other stuff that had a weird taste southern comfort maybe so you know who i was i was the guy that would walk into the bar and be like can i have a hundred so-called mimes so you just are you telling uh are you telling stories of me is that sounds like that's what you're doing is what you're doing there dan that's fun it's called nation by the way the way. It's Rick Flair used to do that as well, I learned. I got on a loan to do such a thing. You had a credit card, two different worlds.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Go ahead, Todd. Dan, you mentioned on Get Up how even if Jalen Hurts plays as well as he could, he still won't sniff where Carson Wentz is. Is that how the Eagles front office feels, too? Like, at any point are they going to make, oh shit, we should have tried to make it work with this guy. And if they do stink this year, is Jalen Hurts done in Philly? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:32 So yeah, I think I absolutely believe that there are members on that front office that go, why did we make the decision that we did? I don't think that there was uniformity within that pick. Is it an assumption of mine? Absolutely. But I just can't see a front office that watched, you know, what so many people watched or maybe knew Carson a little bit more relationally said this is the right pick for us in this situation.
Starting point is 01:03:01 And the point for my comment was yesterday. I think Carson Wentz is going to have a really good season in indianapolis okay so if carson once plays as good as he's capable of or close to it and jalen hurts plays as good as he's capable of or close to it they're not close as players carson once is superior as a player do they have to go do it of course they have to go do it everybody but like that's just the truth do i think that the eagles um could potentially regret massively the decision that they made absolutely yeah but what carson wentz hold on though so if they regret their decision that means you think carson wentz gonna have success but there's no way carson is gonna have
Starting point is 01:03:42 the same success let's say he has success still in Philly after everything that happened mentally. Don't you think that that was completely that like I know hindsight's always, you know, 50 50 Cam Newton. But don't you think that was kind of like they have to understand that Carson Wentz was never going to be good with the Eagles again. Don't you think that do you believe that that that was it was that ear ear what was the right of the uh ear irreconcilable irreconcilable differences was the report and then everybody gets kind of thrown away and he seems broken he's playing bad he's throwing picks he might be good for the Colts but there's no way that Eagles fans or the Eagles place should be like oh he could have played like that for us I think that ship was long gone right no I think that's a fair I think that's a fair like thought process but maybe it's not tied to
Starting point is 01:04:29 a singular decision that there's multiple decisions that led to the situation and the finishing was the nail in the coffin was the jalen hurts selection right and so whether you think he's mentally weak forward or not i don't have time for that but um do you you think he's back you think he's gonna bounce back no problem i think he's gonna have a very big year i also can't win a fucking super bowl then yeah hey if he has a very good year i think they're one weapon i think they should have got one more weapon but if pippen and this new guy michael something they're saying he's an absolute baller paris is back j JT is back. Offensive line is back. TY is back. Defense is back.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Special teams is good. If he plays, hey, if he plays, that team has a real chance. I mean, they got stared on Julio twice now. They could have had him. I got three thoughts on the Colts when it comes to Wentz a little bit too. So, I think just as important as Wentz playing good is the health of Fisher. You know, like Eric Fisher's got to be healthy for them. That is a huge thing.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Hey, did you hear what Ballard told me about Fisher? No. Okay, so I texted Ballard. Let me get to it. A month in or something? What's that? Didn't you say like a month into the season or something like that? Yeah, he said like he has patience.
Starting point is 01:05:41 He's not going to rush him. It's a long season. So I don't know if that was him at the time. They didn't know when he would be back or if he knew, and he was just trying to put expectations or what it was. But that's where his mind was at. Does that change anything for you or no? No.
Starting point is 01:05:54 When he plays, he's got to play to the level that Eric Fisher has played at for a long time. So, like, I think how healthy he is is a big deal. How good is this Quiddie Paye guy? Like, how healthy is is a big deal how good is this quitty pay guy like how good is he because the loss of some of their edge pieces from last defense you know it's like he's got to be really good and then like okay if you go look back at that 2017 philadelphia eagles team you know how many receivers they had on their team that went over a thousand yards how many that oh they had zero dudes go over a thousand yards they had three
Starting point is 01:06:26 that went over 750 four that went over 500 so like the colts don't have a star on offense but i can absolutely see ty and michael pitman jr and and maybe pascal or or paris campbell go for 700 something like that i could see that you know how many backs that they had that ran for over 1,000 yards? Zero. But they had three backs go over 500 yards. So it's like I honestly believe that Ballard and Frank Wright look at football kind of like the NBA right now, positionless football. They don't need – they just look at guys who can go produce.
Starting point is 01:07:03 So I think the Colts are going to be really, really, really goodon plays well and i expect him to okay you expect him to play well you've watched more film on him i think you know him better than anybody else you were lying about what people other people were saying on tv to make yourself look good for carson wentz i got proof but you don't yeah you don't you You're right. I don't, but I was saying, you started my relationship with Carson Wentz is a bad one, by the way, with your lying little trash bag thing that happened.
Starting point is 01:07:32 You said to me, this guy stinks. No, not on air. I didn't. I mean, there might've been a situation. There might've been a situation that popped off where I go,
Starting point is 01:07:42 Dan, don't you think this guy stinks? Like right here. That's when you first started saying everybody stinks or everything stinks. And it was just in the moment. Yeah. We were trying to get it into the Rolodex too. At the time, I think I was, we were really trying to hammer it in there. And there might've been a situation where it happened. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:07:59 It has become very good for our show. We appreciate it immensely, obviously. But whenever you did that trash bag thing when you were going to bat for carson wentz when he was carrying the eagles on his back as they were just decimated by injuries i mean that was that was so wrong of you and i honestly it was it makes sense now that i just saw you do your little eye thing that you did that to me but that me and carson have gotten back in good graces which is good news but you try to set me up for complete failure there but you've had carson's back more than anybody in the history why is that is it just because of his intangibles because you've met him because you've
Starting point is 01:08:35 seen the point what is it exactly about him you think that makes you say like hey this guy's gonna be a guy never exchange a single word with that human being. I just think he's really good. But I also feel like I'm a guy that has most quarterbacks' backs. I say this to Marcus Spears all the time. Swag, good shirt, by the way. This is me opening up and being a little bit honest on McAfee's show. It's way easier for everybody else in the sports industry world, the Marcus Spears' to Ryan Clark's, yourself,
Starting point is 01:09:06 guys that didn't play quarterback. Well, it's for you guys to be critical of quarterbacks. I'm not saying no, but like I'm just putting your name. It's easier for you guys. You didn't play that. It's easier for you guys to play quarter or be critical of quarterbacks because there's not the lateral comparison of like, how can you say that? You know, like it's that it's that, that's just, it's easier thing. So I'm very conscious of like trying to do my job as good as I can and being positive and critical,
Starting point is 01:09:33 but also like having quarterbacks backs because everybody loves to say every quarterback outside of like Tom Brady stinks. And it's, I'm, I try to be conscious of making sure people understand, like, dude, these dudes are so good. I get it. And I do that for kickers and punters, by the way, because guys like you, quarterbacks and everybody who really doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground
Starting point is 01:09:57 when it comes to kicking and punting get on television and say things that are just completely wrong about the job. And it has been minuscule because not you ever. You would never do that. I'm just saying guys like you, obviously. Quarterbacks have never been in a special teams room. You know, maybe don't have the real pulse of a locker room ever. You know, that whole thing.
Starting point is 01:10:13 People get on TV for a long, long time. So I try to get their backs. I think you, though, like at some point, there was a time there for a bit where you were, you know, strategically editing some film to make people look a lot better than they were. And I think you learned from that, too. I think you've you've backed off some particular wagons whenever you get on them heavily. And you're like, OK, I'm gonna get off of this wagon for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I'm gonna go this way. Don't you think you've kind of grown in that aspect of that thing? Yeah, I mean, I certainly have. Yeah, I mean, I certainly have. I think that like as as you've grown, as I've grown in this industry, you realize like, you know, trying to cater to certain fan bases isn't it doesn't like win, you know, like fan bases are going to love you if you say something good about their player or team and hate you if you say something bad. Every day, by the way, and they will forget about that yesterday. Yeah, yeah. So I think that's been a learning process. I think staying true to try and be in who I wanted to become in this world and kind of what I cut my teeth in is a big kind of focal point for me. So, like, yeah, it's all a little bit hard, but I'll never –
Starting point is 01:11:21 I will never – I never have and I never will at the end of the day go up there and do something or say something that I don't believe. Well, I mean, you just did it like four or five seconds ago, or maybe 45 seconds ago if I was to put those together. Well, you said Swagoo. You can't talk about quarterbacks. You never played. Ryan Clark, RC, DC, by the way, new show with Cormier.
Starting point is 01:11:40 That show's going to be great. I can't wait. You said that. And then, Pat, you're in there too. What is this, Dan? What's that? That's you throwing. That's not playing quarterback.
Starting point is 01:11:50 That's throwing the ball. I took the snap, made the audible, threw the ball. 40-some yards. First of all, your left bicep looks outstanding. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate that. Had good vascularity. That was a year where I was doing a lot of upper body, I and i was pretty fit i was really feeling myself this year that's why i
Starting point is 01:12:08 checked hey pretty girl how are you it's good to see you she likes your wife better than you i don't know um everybody does that's kind of my life that doesn't mean you play quarterback right like if if i took a if it's third and 18 and i take a snap and i quick kick it i'm not a punter i just the quarterback who punted the ball once you know i'm saying if i true not all squares are rectangles but all punters are quarterbacks not all quarterbacks are punters there's two different positions quarterback right also how many people have you drawn off sides with your cadence oh in the nfl i think i stopped counting at like 3214 i would like to put my cadence up against yours okay for field goal no no shot your cadence film go to film i'm not talking about you don't even listen just watch the motherfuckers on a d-line
Starting point is 01:12:59 dan just well sorry your kids right there jesus and there. Jesus is the savior. Obviously, I am. I am so sorry there, Uncle Pat. Yeah, that is tough. I'm not used to it. I'm not used to I've talked about this before. I'm not used to the whole, you know, being, you know, potentially guiding people's lives and everything like that. Dan, what's going to be the big story out of the NFL this year? You think like what's going to be like the surprise story if you had to project right now? Yeah, I think there's a couple. Like, right now, two of our best players, I have no idea if they're playing and where they're playing. Oh, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:13:34 All right, before we get to what you're about to say about Aaron, I think, and maybe it's Deshaun. Because did you see the video of Jordan? Who was it? Jordan, Justin Fields, and Deshaun Watson and this comes after Deshaun Watson posts a video of him working out in David Mulageta who I believe is their agent he's a power player in the NFL agency game he has Jordan Love this is on his IG stories shout out to Matt Schneidman who found this via David Mulageta's Instagram don't think we should have gave credit there to Schneidman but shout out to schneidman i guess the boys saw him drunk in
Starting point is 01:14:07 rhode island and newport before ty's wedding and everything like that right good place but mulligate is only putting jordan love and justin fields with deshaun watson if he feels as if this isn't going to potentially be a toxic right isn't that something mula gates is incredibly intelligent incredibly intelligent savvy businessman i think you know what i mean yeah no i just i think that i like david david's really good at what he does i think he's very smart with how he moves chess pieces and you know always keeps his players best interest um at the forefront and i think there's reasons why those guys are hanging out together at the end of day, you're hanging around guys who are really great at what they do. So that's a big deal. So where do those guys live?
Starting point is 01:14:51 Where are they spending their offseason? Who's training? All that stuff is tied to it. You know that. So I just think David's really good at what he does. Do you think this is an indication, though, that maybe the Deshaun stuff does get figured? Because we've heard nothing. That is very serious, by the way.
Starting point is 01:15:07 We want full justice. I think you have openly said exactly the stance of ours. If this is something that has happened, get his ass out of the NFL. Do not want that. We want justice absolutely served. If it didn't happen, we would like that as well. But it feels like with 20- inner crossing state lines with the season what 60 62 days away 62 days away it's like i don't know hey do you have any inklings on how that
Starting point is 01:15:33 plays out is that gonna you know and no idea and that's the crazy thing is like the i think about this i mean all right let's talk about the Deshaun situation. MVP candidate, one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, obviously one of the best young players in the NFL, and we have no idea if he's going to play football next year. And if he does play football, where he's playing football. And if he's a terrible guy or not. And if he's like the worst guy, maybe one of the worst guys of all time too. Like maybe, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:16:01 Like depending upon, we have no idea any of that about Deshaun. Right. Yeah, that's a good point. Like I don't don't the spectrum like the the end result the final reality the spectrum of potential is just massive you know and then how did the how do the texans like move you how do they move like what's there like how do they move forward either way like oh he's here he's not like and then the same with aaron like mvp of the league face of the league in many ways or one of the faces of the league i don't know if he's playing this year i don't know where he's playing like it's just wild to see his calf stand at the match dan he's playing
Starting point is 01:16:34 this year he is in football i know you saw them playing catch on the cart path and then you probably caught a little extra bleach report gridiron they were throwing a t-box and they were talking about shotgun stance and cadence and everything like that and tom obviously is tom brady he's he's uh you know he's seven i mean he's the goat but the camera angle from behind aaron when he just flicked it looks like a that ball comes humming out of that guy's it. It's the most natural. In his calves and quads, I don't think Aaron looked like he is very much in good shape. The hair is a little bit longer,
Starting point is 01:17:11 you know, so I think like people think like, and he was in Hawaii and everything's been going on. He's jumping into waterfalls. He's singing Taylor Swift. I think this falls right into a trap that Aaron wants everybody thinking he's not ready. He looks like he is in tremendous shape. I have no doubt that he's ready to play
Starting point is 01:17:28 football. I just don't know where he is relationally with the organization. I just don't know. When I watch him throw football, the number one question that comes to my head was, why God? Why did he get to do that and I had to throw like I did? In the creation process,
Starting point is 01:17:44 when were those decisions made you know um is that in that book you guys read over you guys read that book a lot right i mean that's part of the whole thing there you know obviously at night you read i scoured it there's the answer is not in there okay i've scoured it but that like i don't i don't know dude i think like those are the two question marks for me that are huge i think there's i mean obviously what happens with stafford with the rams what happened i think stafford could do i think the rams could go to the super bowl absolutely uh um i think that they're the second most likely team to knock off the bucks in the nfc um i think stafford could have his steve young moment i really do i think they're going to be unbelievable kyle murray and cliff kingsbury like where does that go you know like does
Starting point is 01:18:30 cliff kingsbury figure out an nfl offense that's a huge question for me wait wait wait wait let's go back uh do you hear on flying coach with schrags and mcveigh kyle shanahan was also in cabo looking to get matthew stafford imagine matthew stafford on that roster in san francisco i mean la is loaded as well but him on that san francisco team i think people that haven't seen matthew stafford play football have no idea what's about to happen he is so well he's i said this yesterday i think the the country is going to see what everybody who either played against detroit or played in detroit has known for I think the country is going to see what everybody who either played against Detroit or played in Detroit has known for years. That the dude is just unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:19:11 And, like, if they can get that young player, Tutu Atwell, out of Louisville, if they can get him a little bit great. Dude, Matthew Stapp, this is what I know about Matthew. Tutu will get going. Oh, yeah. Tutu will get going. Yeah. This is what I know about matthew he um will absolutely relish the pressure like relish the pressure he's one of those guys that
Starting point is 01:19:34 like like loved loved to make sure people knew how good he thinks he is or good he knows he is like i remember having a conversation with them and i'd'd be like, yo, Matthew, like, we'd be watching tape, right? And he would try to fit this ball in, this 40-yard left hash to the right sideline, hole shot in between three dudes. And I'd be like, Matt, you can just take, like, that hook route at nine yards is wide open. And I remember he looked at me once and he goes, but you can make that throw and you can't make that one.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Did you do a wide there? I want to I want to make the throw that nobody else can. You know what? I just like he's just like that, dude. We're like he's he's he knows he's so good. I think he's going to eat up this year, just shutting everybody up. He is the classic gunslinger, but never really gets talked about because gunslingers normally are covered, you know, massively in the NFL media world. But since he's been in Detroit, the games are on Thanksgiving. You get to see him.
Starting point is 01:20:32 But he he's an entertaining football player. And because I think he was so quiet behind, like he's so quiet, I guess. I mean, he's saying this shit to you. I would like to get to know him a little bit better if that's how he feels about stuff. But he wasn't a big media guy. Wasn't a big interview guy. He should have been complaining years ago, by the way. My favorite Stafford story is this one.
Starting point is 01:20:53 It's from college, right? We were talking about the... So he's from Highland Park, Texas. I don't know if you know, he grew up with Clayton Kershaw. They were childhood best friends. Yeah, you guys at ESPN just... You guys. Pound that drum.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Do you guys write that on like a note card and say, hey, when Stafford's on – We've heard that before. Come on, dude. Chris Hogan playing lacrosse. And he's playing lacrosse again, by the way. I mean, it is – Did you know that Fitzmatch is going to Harvard as well? Dan, Dan, come on.
Starting point is 01:21:23 This show is going good. You had a good story there for a little bit he's telling me he's telling me about the whole recruiting process right and um he's like i got sick of the recruiting so i went to georgia so they're playing at georgia or they're playing at tennessee his sophomore season and i think they lose on like a like end of the game last play of the game moment and he's on the field afterwards with his dad. He's a sophomore in college. And he's on the field afterwards with his dad on the road at Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:21:51 And his dad, like, comes up to him and he's like, don't worry, Matthew. We'll get him next time we come here. And he looked up to his dad and goes, dad, there ain't going to be a next time. And, like, as a sophomore, a 19-year-old sophomore was basically telling his dad, like, I got one more year left in school. Yeah, we alternate. Yeah, we alternate. I don't have to.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Hey, Dad, listen. Hey, that's cool, Dad. There ain't a next time. Yeah, I'm about to collect $60 million guaranteed when they draft me number one overall in this CBA that we have still. You know, I'm going to be able to buy the city wherever they draft me at. That's just the kind of duty he is. You know, so I think he'll relish his kind of experience.
Starting point is 01:22:27 And if I was going to put money on a little bit of a flyer MVP-wise, it would be him. Oh, you're starting to talk gambling, by the way. Did you hear that? A little bit of money and flyer. Did they tell you guys over there to start learning a little bit about what's going on in the world of sports and gambling? I'm literally the worst gambler in the world.
Starting point is 01:22:44 See, but that's why you are. That's the whole, gambler in the world see but you should you that's why you are that's the whole like you think you can you think you can't think you've already lost you like you don't have to why god gambling you watch more film than anybody fucking figure it out i don't i'm not into it not not really into it yeah it'll be worth a lot more money for you here in like a year or so so you'll figure it out you'll get in there and by the way i know you just watch the games for fun. At some point, you're going to drink all that red wine and all that clear vodka or whatever the hell you're drinking. You'll be so miserable. You're like, all right, I need something on.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Huh? You drink wine? Do you like wine? No, but I saw the decanter up there. I'm a sophisticated man. I've been to Napa Valley. Decanter? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Come on, bro. Everybody thinks they see truck driver son stooge here white trash guy come on i wore my jordson tank top right into napa valley okay i've been i've been checking the legs and the entire thing i mean i i understand what's going on i don't appreciate it respect it but i understand it that's fair but you're gonna get so drunk one day or you're gonna get sick of watching all this film and it's no longer gonna be for the love of the game you're gonna think to yourself while watching a game you're going to get so drunk one day or you're going to get sick of watching all this film and it's no longer going to be for the love of the game. And you're going to think to yourself while watching a game,
Starting point is 01:23:47 you're going to be like, although I'm getting a lot of information here, if I just put a quick hundred bucks on this team, this game just gets so much better. It just gets, uh, I was with a friend of mine last week and he was, they were watching the NBA game and he was like,
Starting point is 01:24:01 who's going to be the first to score 10 points in this game? I was like, what? Yeah. I'm going to put a hundred bucks on. I think it was the Hawks and he was like who's gonna be the first to score 10 points in this game i was like what yeah i'm gonna put a hundred bucks on i think it was the hawks he was like i'm gonna put 100 on the hawks to score 10 first and i was like you can do that like what are you out of your mind dan games get a lot more interesting in this world i mean you got three kids 10 jobs a lot of film but at some point you need to sit down and just thank you how many you're a godfather it's all four of them so um congratulations that's awesome good for you man yeah you know so you are you're written into the will as far as a you know a person who looks after him and something happens like a disney movie to us
Starting point is 01:24:39 and um i know i got i know uncle pat has the money now okay i know uncle pat has the money now and everybody is I know Uncle Pat has the money now and everybody is, you know, potentially thinking of that whole. Hey, I understand the rule of the godfather. If that first words in there, I'm not just here for I'm not just an empty check either. OK, I'm supposed to be maybe a whole responsibility of caring for these. I've had CFO Phil and I have been best friends since kindergarten. I'm not even his godkids. He's like, yes, this ain't the right move here. If we got to put him in a church, he's got to do a whole thing.
Starting point is 01:25:07 I appreciate the opportunity. Uncle Pat's fine, though. I'll see him when they're adults. I'll talk to him when they're adults. Sound good? That's fine. I'll take that rejection. Well, I don't know if the kids will.
Starting point is 01:25:18 No, well, you got to ask before they're born anyways. It's kind of the devil move, actually, now that I'm thinking about it. A little bit of devil father coming in this entire thing and i don't like that at all especially because that's a whole white kitchen over there the kids are there the wife's there hey that um your wife yelling at those kids jumping off of that bridge for being a bad influence on your children yesterday was one of my favorite things i've seen on the internet in some time those kids were flying off of that bridge dude we were just taking it in and i'm seeing these kids walk up that's a railroad line that they were jumping off the casino smokes and honestly that channel that we go through um
Starting point is 01:25:56 it's like we got to be very smart depending on the tides because they can get really shallow and my immediate thought was yo these kids better like it better be high tide because if it's low tide they're in they're in bad bad situations and when i started watching these kids launch themselves off my kids were like 30 feet and i was like i love it that they're into it like they're looking at it saying don't be scared and launch themselves my there we go my wife about it yeah i like the fact that your kids were all saying things that were a bit horrifying if you were a parent and you were not even paying attention. You were just watching these kids fly off of this thing. And we can't fast forward on this, right?
Starting point is 01:26:34 Brad Gradkowski, are you and him friends? There we go. Yeah, Brad and I played against each other in college. He double pots his collars, pastels. Look at this guy. I think he's out of Pittsburgh. Look at this dude climbing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:46 And this, by the way, their boat, Orlovsky's driving a boat here right past him. This kid is awesome. I don't know who this kid is, but I love this kid just flying around. It's like 50 feet up in the air right there, climbing up on a structure, flying off. And then Dan's kids are all like, oh, can I do that? Literally, can I do that literally can i do that and dan's wife at the end of that goes oh thanks thanks and then the boat just rolls off i told my sons like two years you can do it i don't want you doing it at nine but maybe around 11 or 12
Starting point is 01:27:17 if you fill out a little bit and you can handle the water we can go send you so in pittsburgh we have piers 40 foot 30 foot i. I think there's a 64 one. You go in the middle of, you go in pitch black though. So you don't really know how far the fall is or whatever. That's a rite of passage as well. I don't know if any 11 year old should be doing that. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:27:34 it is. Bro, you have, you have you done that? Yeah, man. I mean, you,
Starting point is 01:27:39 you're looking, I mean, you've seen the things that I've done. I would do anything about one, one time I will do in the dark. Yeah. Yeah. Into a river,
Starting point is 01:27:47 by the way, this is in a river in Pittsburgh. Yeah. You're a maniac. I love it. One time though. Just do it once. So I'd say I did it.
Starting point is 01:27:54 So I mean like for instance, flip off the top of a steel cage, get vertical, get vertical, save the face. No, you don't want a pencil. No,
Starting point is 01:28:01 no. Cause you have no idea how deep that is. Yeah. You actually don't want a pencil. You want to actually, you're hoping to get, you're actually trying to eat up some space there. Yeah, yeah, that's, come on, Dan. I mean, if you're, maybe Uncle Pat will come up
Starting point is 01:28:14 for whenever the kids are jumping off the goddamn bridge, okay? Because their dad's trying to break their legs right now. All right. I didn't think you guys were jumping into rivers that potentially could be four, five six feet deep eight feet deep we don't have high tide where we're at okay it's either the italians killed a lot of people and the water's a little bit higher because all the bodies are stacked up at the bottom or it's a little bit lower because it's been a dry summer all right ladies and gentlemen i take offense to
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Starting point is 01:29:53 If you haven't used it yet, use it now. Also, there's fantasy on there, daily fantasy, and free-to-play games where you can win money. Shout-out to FanDuel. Shout-out to you. Let's get back to the show. Let's talk about some stuff happening in sports. Poirier versus McGregor 3 is happening tomorrow night, Sunday morning, probably 1.30 a.m., 2 a.m., out in Las Vegas. The press conference yesterday happened. If you look at the tail of the tape, the 5'9 Connor takes on the 5'9 Dustin Poirier. The 155-pound Connor takes on the 155-pound Dustin Poirier. The reach of Conor McGregor, the notorious, the mystic Mac, 74 inches.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Dustin Poirier, 72 inches. Record 22-5-0 for Conor, 27-6-0 for Dustin. Conor says, I'm only counting knockouts in records nowadays. He's only lost once. This guy's lost more. It has been personal in this buildup between Conor and Dustin. The last time Conor and Dustin fought, Conor has come out
Starting point is 01:31:05 and said to both ariel hawani and stephen a smith who is now the mma insider for espn with big interviews excited to hear those continue to go connor mcgregor said the last time we fought it was 75 80 boxing i was getting ready for manny pacquiao that's what he said he said it was 75 80 this was just a charity i didn't really focus on the mixed martial arts he said this time the family's not around it is 100 focus on mixed martial arts he already had a fight scheduled in jerry world i think with manny pacquiao boxing that he was looking ahead to this time he's not doing that he's back to the asshole hungry mean vicious killer conor mcgregor that is what he has said we will find out tomorrow night I believe him we will have a boost on Fandle at some point today boosting a Conor McGregor
Starting point is 01:31:51 knockout I don't know what from to what to but I'm on his side and to be honest I hope it happens because I have been a notorious Conor McGregor fan for a long time although I know he's been through a lot and he's waking up in satin sheets and yachts and i don't know how easy it is to get up and want to kill somebody when you have to do that like he was in his documentary living in the attic of his mom's house in the shit training and then all the way to the superstardom with proper 12 selling and making hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars being the highest paid athlete at such a young age. I mean, what he has done is absolutely wonderful. I'm not 100% sure all that success is conducive to continued success in the fighting world.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I think it is proven time and time again that it is hard to hit the streets and hit the ground and get beat up every single morning if you're incredibly wealthy. Conor McGregor seems to have gone back in time with his attitude. And he also said to Dustin Poirier that Dustin Poirier's wife wanted to fuck him at one point. So it is going to be insane. Can't wait to watch it. Are you guys going to be watching or are you just going to watch the highlights on Sunday when you wake up on social media? I'll give it a run for sure because Sugar Sean too and Hardy getting a chance.
Starting point is 01:33:03 I'll watch. Sugar Sean's going to be probably at some point. it a run for sure because sugar sean too and hardy getting a chance like i'll watch sugar sean's gonna be probably at some point i believe he is the first fight on the pay-per-view card so they'll get my money yep because the sugar sean match that's leading off now greg hardy fighting that's fascinating i hope he gets knocked out really bad everybody on earth wants him to get off so i think so he's not good right uh he is a good fighter. He's not going to fight him. I mean, I don't think he won his last fight, but I don't think he really did much. You're saying Greg Harden's not a good fighter and you hate him?
Starting point is 01:33:33 Well, I think he's a piece of shit as a human. He is. You know, which has been documented. He came out yesterday. He either said yesterday or two days ago. He said, I've been found guilty of nothing. I've been accused of the narrative about me. That was his big angle. Then he cut a promo on Sean Mer he said, I've been found guilty of nothing. I've been accused of the narrative about me. That was his big angle.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Then he cut a promo on Sean Merriman, I think, and then some other things happened. But whenever he first got into the UFC, I remember Dana White just, he's fighting. Yeah. This guy is terrible. There's photos of his ex on a bed of guns and this and stories of this. And Dana's like, yeah, he's fighting, he's fighting, he's fighting. And now he's gotten to the point where where has he had any recent fuck-ups oh i don't think any fuck-ups but he doesn't have any notable fights either but he well connor said khabib doesn't either for his
Starting point is 01:34:13 first 20 fights that there was another thing it seems like connor is angling for his next fight to be khabib come on now khabib what 29 and 0 or something like that 29 and 0 his dad passes away he he said he wanted to go 30 and 0 and retire then he retires and then Dana says he's coming back maybe and then no he's officially retired and Connor was like Connor saluted him by the way he gave him like a good run and when his dad passed away and then Stephen A asked him about him he said he's proved nothing this nothing in this sport he went back to it seemed like back in the day kind of angling for that fight which i think the world wants to see right the last time they fought there was a brawl out in the audience and everything like that it's just when connor's in the fight game there's so
Starting point is 01:34:58 much conversation to be had that thing is going to be so late there's no way i make it up past them they'll get my money for sugar can't wait wait to watch. But if Conor doesn't win, what happens after this? He just starts boxing everybody? I don't know. You might as well. I mean, it doesn't matter, though, does it? He'll sell out every arena
Starting point is 01:35:14 if he has to fight forever. Look at Diaz in Phoenix. When Diaz was in Phoenix, that place was a Diaz crowd. He could have sold. Diaz is it? Diaz! He's still the guy. No matter how matter how if he wins or loses people love him
Starting point is 01:35:27 by the way he could have won that I think late in a I could see how maybe he didn't know that but he caught Diaz is still Diaz he's awesome he's gonna be must watch Connor will always be that way if he wants it but he has a hundred some million yeah so I don't I don't know how much training I think it seems Ariel says he's back he he's hungry, he wants to take it over again. I hope we get another run of that. That'll be awesome. But I think reality could potentially set in. I hope not.
Starting point is 01:35:51 I hope he wins again and gets going. Yeah, I mean, if he gets beat, I don't know. He might be done with the UFC. We were kind of talking about it before the show. Like, it would make sense if he did, you know, like a one-off with Jake Paul at, like, the Staples Center. Because Jake Paul is burying both Connor and Dana White right now. Exactly. And then after that goes and fights Logan over in Dublin or something like that.
Starting point is 01:36:11 He's got plenty of options. I just don't know if he'll keep grinding in the UFC. I hope he gets a win this weekend. Me too. Yeah, and Khabib. Because everybody he fights, there's good buildup, good promos. Seems like there's genuine heat. Except for this last one against Dustin where he was super nice. I'm representing sport. fights there's good build-up good promos seems like there's genuine heat you know except for
Starting point is 01:36:25 this last one against dustin where he was like super nice and i'm gonna ban him representing sport i'm trying to he said i'm trying to stay sharp that was his he's just trying to stay sharp that's why he was doing the dustin poyer fight and then dustin beats him or whatever and it seemed but everybody else he gets into beef and then it seems like they settle it afterwards like after you fight like that's kind of the cool thing about fighting back in the day before it was kind of banned in public, but definitely in the UFC, you fight,
Starting point is 01:36:50 you settle it. Then he kind of shake your hands and move on this one. I mean, it's gotten very, very personal. And this is the third of, I don't know how they're going to, and I don't think,
Starting point is 01:36:58 I guess either of them care. I don't think Connor cares at all, which is good news. Cause it feels like he's got a little savage back in him, but this whole Joel, Jolie, Jolie, Jolie, Jolie Poirier stuff. I'm wondering about her. What happened there? I mean, it's getting brought up.
Starting point is 01:37:12 And Conor's a man to man here. This ain't. Yeah. This ain't a promo. You just think about this as you're trying to lose some weight. She's lying to you. It's like, oh, God. Shit.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Conor seems to be all the way back. And this guy Has all the money In the world Right What if he finds The Savage again That'd be dope
Starting point is 01:37:30 For everybody Takes it back over It's when the UFC Is the best Like when it's him And like John Jones Those are the two guys Like okay
Starting point is 01:37:37 Brock Lesnar Yeah Lesnar So if Brock Lesnar Comes back John Jones Conor McGregor Suga I think is Getting to the point
Starting point is 01:37:43 Where his performance is But he's gonna take A little bit Dana White wants Conor toregor Suga I think is getting to the point Where his performance is But he's going to take a little bit Dana White wants Conor to be good right Yeah thousand percent I don't Go to the judges I'm kind of knockouts only Yeah that's the greatest
Starting point is 01:38:00 Tapping out the judges Doesn't count Derek Carr Is in an interview That's the greatest. Tapping out. Doesn't count. Derek Carr is in an interview, and he said that he has not said motherfucker that Tom Brady is potentially talking about on The Shop. Now, has that aired yet, and do we know who Tom Brady is talking about when the clip of Tom Brady saying,
Starting point is 01:38:19 you're sticking with that motherfucker on The Shop was released via The Shop and uninterrupted HBO premiering and kind of teasing this next season. Everybody's like, oh, this has to be about free agency. Who could it be talking about? And the guessing game began immediately. Ian Rappaport said he thinks he's talking about Philip Rivers in the Indianapolis Colts. Some people are thinking that he's talking about Jimmy G and the 49ers because he wanted to go back there, even though he and Jimmy G are friends. There is a numerous amount of people.
Starting point is 01:38:48 I guess Derek Carr got mentioned in this. Derek Carr said, he ain't talking about me, all right? Because I'll fight him. Derek Carr said, I'll fight him. I'll fight him if he's talking about me. And this is not the first time I think Derek Carr has said, I will fight somebody. I think Derek Carr low-key trains.
Starting point is 01:39:02 I think he's boxer, maybe MMA some sort. He is very comfortable saying saying i will fight people and i've never not believed him by the way whenever he said it he said it here again derrick carr super good guy i think he's super religious i like that he said i am not the guy he's not and i will i mean we're gonna have to fight that if that's the case i guess it's like okay derrick he said i'm a raider for life is this uh is derrick car a little baby face here? Do you like this? And was Tom Brady talking about Derek Carr
Starting point is 01:39:29 and wanting to go to the Raiders? No way, right? No chance. I do wonder if we'll ever find out if, you know, who Brady was actually talking. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so either. Because remember, Breeze was starting to get thrown in the mix.
Starting point is 01:39:40 And it was like, you wouldn't say that about Drew Breeze, would he? What if he was just talking about an ex-girlfriend that motivated him exactly becoming a different type of person because she picked another guy over him do we know has the context of what he said been stated yet by anybody i don't believe so he's talking about michigan maybe uh do you think he called him out of the blue and just said like like, Hey, Derek, just so you know, you weren't the motherfucker I was talking about. Yeah, I do not want to fight you. Have a good day. Good luck this year.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Go and play catch when I get out to Vegas. Remember, he was going to be a Raider, though. He was out there at that UFC fight with old buddy. Yep. Man, that's wild. Zayla Avant-Garde, congratulations out of Louisiana. Yeah! First African-American to win the scripps spelling bee in my eyes first athlete too she has videos all around the internet of
Starting point is 01:40:33 her slicing and dicing congrats i guess they changed some of the rules not everybody's thrilled about the new spelling bee but i'm pumped for zaila I'm pumped for athletes being smart. I'm pumped for Monday with the biggest show we've ever had comes as we say goodbye to the FanDuel Beach House era. Thank you, FanDuel Beach House. And hello to the live WWE Universe era next week. SmackDown's tonight. Poirier's manana. The Europes are on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:41:04 A.J. Hawks golfing. It's a beautiful time. Thanks, Europes are on Sunday. AJ Hawks golfing. It's a beautiful time. Thanks, Dan. Thanks, Vernon. We'll see you Monday. Have a great weekend. This has been the Pat McAfee Show. The WWE is going back on the road, so we won't be in Tampa every Friday anymore. But today was a good one. We got Vernon
Starting point is 01:41:21 Davis, Dan Orlovsky, and a lot of other conversation we appreciate you guys for following along let's get to it all right that's the show once again we can't thank you guys enough for watching listening interacting with us on twitter you're the best we know there's a lot of other shit you guys could be listening to and we appreciate that you spend your time with us a lot of good stuff to watch this weekend. Enjoy it. We'll see you guys on Monday.
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