The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 449 - UFC 264 Recap, Euro Finals Reaction With Nigel Seeley, & Around The NFL With Ian Rapoport

Episode Date: July 12, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about the Euro Finals going into penalty kicks and the drama and tension surrounding everything as they welcome a man who was at the game and friend of the progr...am, Nigel Seeley to relive everything that happened on Sunday, some of the coaching decisions that were made by England's manager, the atmosphere at Wembley, and how devastating a loss it was (15:23-35:04). Later, NFL Network Insider and friend of the program, Ian Rapoport joins the show to discuss what we should be on the lookout for the next few weeks in the NFL, if he has any idea what Aaron Rodgers is going to do, the Deshaun Watson situation, and what he's hearing through the grapevine (1:03:41-1:28:46). Pat and the boys also react to UFC 264 and all the fallout surrounding Conor McGregor, Dustin Poirier, Suga Sean O'Malley, and all the other standout moments from the card. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, it is Monday, July 12th, 2021 years after zero, 59 days a la at Boston Connors Twitter account until the NFL season. Good conversations today with Rappaport. Okay, great conversation today with Rappaport. And obviously, Nigel Sealy from across the pond about England's big loss the other day in the Europe's championship against the Italians. We talk about everything happening in the world from the fight game to football to Wimbledon and Tour de France and everything in between. Today's a hell of a sports show. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes.
Starting point is 00:00:45 If you enjoyed today's show, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Let's get to it, Ty. There is a lot to talk about. Yes! We're live on SiriusXM channel, YouTube, Mad Dog Sports Radio, and YouTube.com forward slash The Pat McAfee Show. The Hammered Down Boys are in studio live with us from Jump.
Starting point is 00:01:06 We have two guests today, Nigel Seeley, who is an English drunk, who is also the second best soccer better on planet Earth. Behind ours, Bubba Gumpino here. And Tone Diggs is here. At Boston Connors here. At Ty Schmitz here. Everybody in the back, great to see everybody. There you go, boys.
Starting point is 00:01:25 There you go, boys. There are compliments and congratulations that are in order for. Now, I have said this on too many occasion, and some people think it's a negative. It is not. In my life, there has been too many Italians. Yeah. Okay?
Starting point is 00:01:44 Then I do 23andMe. I find out, obviously, I am potentially 0.01% Italian. And that is a beautiful thing to be a part of the community, basically, that I was raised in Pittsburgh, where there is way too many Italians. Absolutely. Okay. And I assume Pittsburgh was burnt down yesterday with the Italian celebration. I saw videos coming out of Clifton Hill,
Starting point is 00:02:09 Niagara Falls. Great to see the Ripley's Believe It or Not Theater is still standing. Nobody could have imagined that that place would survive COVID. That is a place that I went to a lot in high school, 10-15 times. I guess there is an Italian conglomerate there that is massive.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Makes sense because the waterfalls are there. They're in Pittsburgh because there's three rivers there. They're in Chicago because the river goes there. Philadelphia, New York, what? You name it. If there is a water exit, burial, mover logistics around, you're probably going to see Italians. Yesterday, glory for Italy.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Wow. The Italians win the Europe's 2020, which was delayed one year because of COVID, in the year 2021. Somebody tweeted in 2013 from the future that this was going to happen. In penalties, Italy takes home the Europe's. Just yesterday, Hammer Don had a watch-along.
Starting point is 00:03:13 It was fantastic. The two hosts of Hammer Don, Tone Diggs, grew up up the street from me in the town that I speak of with too many Italians. You were born and raised in Italy for 28 years you said yesterday. By the way you said, by the way basically Italy where we are from it feels like now that you go through everybody's name and culture
Starting point is 00:03:34 and everything like that. What a day for you to turn around. Congratulations to Italy and before we get to the other team. Before we get to the meat spinning on the on the street before the game yeah the granny tick tossing before the game before the parades before the game about it finally coming home as wimbledon is being hosted in the same city the europe's finals with england
Starting point is 00:04:00 playing it is in london that city was ready for an absolute explosion. The country was excited. Canada, who would have never seen the Europe's Trophy Championship, whatever, in Canada, even if England would have won, even though they've been paying taxes for so long, they were behind England. It felt like England backers, England supporters, England fans were ready to have the greatest day of their existence yesterday. And instead, old Pontius Pilate came in and just stabbed him right in the heart. The Italians get the dub.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Diggs, how do you feel first? Are you excited about this? Did you enjoy this? Or does your heart hurt for a man who was actually, I believe, tears falling from his face yesterday as an entire country mourned the loss of it never coming home. My heart did hurt a little bit for Gumpy. But, you know, I went home. I had a nice, huge, huge plate of lasagna.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Wow. To celebrate. What? Busted out my finest bottle of wine. What? Some breadsticks. What? Busted out my finest bottle of wine. What? Some breadsticks. What? That's it.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Oh, the Capitola. Yeah, I know. Moots Adele. This is disgusting. You let us all down. I'm not a liar.
Starting point is 00:05:16 All I am. Tony. You just said yesterday you grew up in Italy for 28 years. I did. You're right.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Talking Italian club was right down the road. Hey, your dad president of the Italian club captain of the bocce team okay I mean this is so I did
Starting point is 00:05:31 yeah okay I get it but man we could have went through an entire list of Italian food could have really went there but what a glorious night
Starting point is 00:05:38 to be Italian glorious night what a glorious night to have that little Italian horn what a glorious night to be a part of something so special, but also in true Italian style, so devastating to somebody else.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Oh, no. Gumpy. Ever since I spit net 23 in me, all of a sudden I had a team of the root four in the Europes. That's right. Okay, Ireland ain't worth a fuck. Well, for now. They'll turn it around eventually.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I don't know what happened to Conor. Everything that's going on. I'm not 100% sure. But that.01% gave me something to believe in. But watching you, and I think a lot of people can speak to this point, not just in this room, but people that listen and watch this show, watching you support England kind of made us all supporters of England. Kind of made us all believers in England.
Starting point is 00:06:21 of made us all supporters of England. Kind of made us all believers in England. Kind of made us all realize that the pain and suffering that the English soccer fans have been through since 1966. Wow. 55
Starting point is 00:06:37 years they've been sitting on this thing. It's like the Cubs. Before the Cubs were able to win, they suck again. But it's like the Cubs, whenever they were able to win, it was like the lovable losers finally win. I guess in the world of soccer, which we do not pay attention to at all, especially before Gumby got here, but England is this team that is a powerhouse,
Starting point is 00:07:00 always has been in the soccer world, has created greats and icons. But the fans of the English national team haven't got a chance to really celebrate a goddamn thing since 1966. And here we are. The fourth best soccer tournament on earth. Hosted in England. England's in a final. Because obviously you've got the World Cup.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yep. Concava Cup. What? Gold Cup. Gold Cup, I would say. which we sent our shit team to. I don't want to hear any tweets from any of you foreign folks watching our soccer team play in the Gold Cup. That's not our team. That is our junior varsity
Starting point is 00:07:34 team got sent to the Gold Club. I don't want to hear a goddamn thing about it. We won the Concava. Easy. Easy. Won that thing. Ran right through it. We sent our B, D, and F team to this Gold Cup. I don't want to hear anything. But then you get down a couple more tournaments, and it's the Euros.
Starting point is 00:07:50 This was everything, Gumpy. And once again, you didn't stink. I don't know how this happens to you. I've only been an English follower here for the last three weeks. This is heartbreaking, dude. Especially with, how about that guy Meat Spinning on the way in. Fully nude and the lady
Starting point is 00:08:09 and then you and Nigel who's joining us in five minutes. The amount of drinks and celebrating. It's coming home. It has to be. It's coming home now. The sound group doesn't even know. It didn't have Gumpy. Can you put into words, please, yesterday after the second minute when they score and then when that thing ends as as we all watch along live,
Starting point is 00:08:27 knowing that heartbreak was coming on the screen. Just where you are right now mentally, emotionally, and how does England bounce back from this, not as a country, but as an entire entity at this point? It was one of those days you knew it was either the best day or the worst day of your life. And as an England fan, England is going to England. It just took for the final for it to happen.
Starting point is 00:08:51 So how come all these other games we weren't told that England was going to England? Because you have to. You get a tournament like this every two years, and I got a lot of people messaging me this. You have to celebrate every chance you get as an England fan. Like in two years from now or not even, like a year and a half, the World Cup, we'll be doing It's Coming Home again. Like this is what we do.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Okay, so we need to know that everything you guys do is food gays. Oh, no. It's on repeat. I actually didn't. We happened to, and Connor and I stopped to get some apps before we went up to watch the fights on Saturday or whatever. We were sitting at the end of a bar, and we were talking to a diehard English fan. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Diehard English was right next to us. And we told him about how we have somebody who's also from England and has been a big soccer fan. And I said, you guys are just the most dramatic fucks of all time, aren't you? The Europe's is the Super Bowl, and then the Premier League is the super bowl and then the premier league is the super bowl then the champions league is the super bowl the world cup is the super bowl it's like everything is the super bowl over there and i appreciate the fact that you guys have so much emotional investment in soccer and everything like that but you guys everything's the super bowl and Everything is compared to the Super.
Starting point is 00:10:05 The Europe's, the English guy, just like them, this is the Super Bowl for us. Yeah, that's right. It's like, okay, well, what happens when the World Cup happens? This is our Super Bowl. It's like the World Series almost. The Premier League, you never walk alone. It's Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And then if you get into the Champions, oh, Capital One, they're trying to ruin it. They're trying to do that entire pay for Champions League thing. Can't do it. They're going to ruin it. They're trying to do that entire pay for Champions League thing. They're going to ruin it. Because Champions League, by the way? Super Bowl. Everything is the Super Bowl. Is that accurate? And is it because you guys are just such good promoters?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Is it because soccer is such a good promotional thing? Because it feels like the Europe's... I understand you guys lost a hell of a run there. Good run for the lads. You can't, I mean, mistakes were made. What are we, about four weeks away though from another tournament that you guys will hype up as the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:10:52 Are we not? Year and a half, year and a half till the World Cup. We'll be right back at it. Here we go. Super Bowl. We're back in it. Now, let's talk about the game though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Because I have become the go-to expert on soccer. Knew it was going to happen. It's soccer. To a T. This is soccer. Yes. It will be tied. We will boost that to plus 250.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And for some reason, there will be no max limit on that. So you can put a couple hundred or even a thousand on that and cash in on one of the best bets in the history of betting it's soccer it was a champ it was a super bowl championship they're gonna tie this everybody knew they were gonna tie we said it last week we said it the week before that as we've been watching soccer because good friend of ours is soccer watcher in gumpy like oh this is soccer they're gonna tie they're gonna tie easiest bet of the history and that was just us by the way oh yeah that was our bet now digs
Starting point is 00:11:50 took it and everybody took it but we were called idiots for making that bet this is disrespectful to the game blah blah blah that hits gumpy's over one and a half goals that hits i think gumpy actually said whenever we were kind of brainstorming what we should super boost for this game, I think Gumpy said it would be 1-1, and I was like, yep, perfect. Overtime, over, both hit, we did. We have taken, okay, this is the text that I got from FanDuel after both of these boosts hit yesterday.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Is FanDuel the biggest footy book in America right now? Yeah, feels like it. I think so. So we were told that there has been numerous records set on the action in the footy world gambling for Fandle. Now, I don't know if it's the biggest in America, but I know that we have broken numerous soccer betting records at Fandle. So shout out to everybody. Here we go. Shout out to everybody who's we go. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Shout out to everybody who's doing exactly what we're doing, saying, hey, hate to watch it, have no idea what's going on. Yeah. But this guy's smart, so we'll just follow what he does. And also, if we're going to be able to get plus 250 on soccer happening, let's take it. Everybody knew that was going to be tight. Everybody knew it was going to go.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I've been told, though, that we have cost Fandle with our Super Boost because there's a lot of people that get active whenever we lose a Super Boost. And there's an entire process to the Super Boost. You have to do it a couple days before because it has to get built in there. So in football, not the easiest thing. There was a couple times where I would have to put a bet in, and then by the time game time come, the reason why I put that as a thing, completely gone. It's like, okay, so this is something I will have to take on my record, bet in and then by the time game time come like the reason why i put that as a thing completely
Starting point is 00:13:25 gone it's like okay so this this is something i will have to take on my record but when we win on these super boosts people think that like we're not happy let me i am pumped whenever those hit there is actual anxiety in those super boosts because whenever they lose i feel terrible i feel fucking terrible because we was i'm on my money's gone, people's money's gone. But I was told after these soccer boosts, both of these hit, I asked, I was like, is this our biggest day? Like, is this our biggest day we've had? I guess there's a couple other predictions that we have put out in football
Starting point is 00:13:57 where it has been the biggest day. But we have cost them tens of millions of dollars with the Super Boost. They said, we won't be able to get the exact total until a couple weeks. And I don't even know if that is something because, I mean, there is business happening, like that whole thing. But they just said, know that your Super Boosts have cost us tens of millions of dollars. Come on. Now we go. Now we go.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Fucking right. Huge. Now we go. Now we go. Fucking right. Huge. Now we play the game. And it makes sense because, like you said, that bet, I was expecting that to be minus $10,000 for it to go into overtime. And then it's like, well, it's plus $250. Plus $250 for it to tie championship. It's soccer.
Starting point is 00:14:39 That was a lock. No max bet either. Yeah. I mean, no max bet is insane. I got them for a couple thousand. Yeah. I couldn't even imagine what everybody else did whenever they looked at it. And they're like, yeah, no max bet is insane. I got him for a couple thousand. I couldn't even imagine what everybody else did whenever they looked at it. And they're like, yeah, that's what soccer is. They're definitely going to fucking tie.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Let's go ahead and do that. But the entire run with the Europes has been an absolute blast. Congrats on a hell of a run by the Hammerdown boys. Good work, boys. Jumpy, sorry you had to watch that. And we got to watch you kind of lose your soul. Melt into a puddle. But from what we just discussed, there's another Super Bowl coming at some point.
Starting point is 00:15:11 That's right. England will play somebody in a week or two, maybe the Concava champions. I wish. Maybe that'll happen. Maybe if they answer the call. Olympics, they will treat that as a Super Bowl, which is less than a month away. There it is. Just won the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Here we go. We just won this whole thing. Yeah. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who was in the building yesterday at Wimbledon. Wembley. He was at Wembley in London. We saw pictures of him before the game that it was potentially going to come home during. He was already boozed up.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This guy was supposed to be on our show a couple weeks ago on numerous different occasions. He was blacked out drunk with Mrs. Heineken. couldn't make the appearance live in his life this europe's run in wimbledon run for this man we're about to talk to the greatest gambler in soccer betting europe history okay he has had a hell of a run yesterday it all came crashing down i wonder if he saw the nude guy spinning his meat i wonder if he saw the boobs being unleashed before the game even started. And I can't wait to hear what
Starting point is 00:16:07 he has to say about everything going on. Ladies and gentlemen, Nigel Sears. Nigel! Nigel, great to see you alive, pal. Thought you might drink yourself into a death situation yesterday after the boys lost for you and it never came home. I think I would have done if we won, Pat.
Starting point is 00:16:25 First of all, I mean, what a great adventure, both sides. What a great couple of months for me. We haven't been able to travel anywhere. We haven't been able to do anything for 18 months. And I felt like I was 21 again on a stag holiday. It was fantastic. I mean, the time of my life for that football tournament. But unluckily, we couldn't get the win.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I thought the Italians thoroughly deserved the win. I thought England played very well in the first half. In the second half, I thought the Italians were much better. But what an adventure. What a journey. What a day it was yesterday. But we just couldn't get that win. Typical English, really.
Starting point is 00:16:59 You know, we'll gather losers. We'll have a go again. But we'll have to wait another few years for another European Championship. And next year, the world cup see that's what we're saying nigel though and i think you said the last month or whatever has been a hell of a ride you felt like you're 21 again for us riding alongside almost both following on social and getting to talk to you and then living and riding with every single minute of these games with Gumpy. It has been a blast. This has been a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:17:27 You saying, though, typical English fashion, losing that game, that's exactly what Gumpy said. Gumpy said England's going to England at some point. How come you guys are fucking lying to us then? I got invested, Nigel. You told me this team was going to win. Okay, you told me. And then, oh, no, that's what England does.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Could you not have told me that before so I didn't get emotionally attached to this team? No, I wanted you to live a little bit like I did. I wasn't going to tell you that. I wasn't going to tell you that. I wanted you to feel the emotions that I've had for my life.
Starting point is 00:17:59 When I first started watching England, I had a head of hair like you. That's worry. That's worried. That's worried. But I mean, last night was just, I mean, there was a few things that I, I mean, we went to penalties. It's a 50-50 shot. You know, the penalty shootout. We're at home advantage.
Starting point is 00:18:16 We got a shot. But to throw a 19-year-old kid on the fifth penalty, the most important penalty, I just couldn't understand that decision. Okay, hold on, hold on. Not just that decision, Nigel, because i'm happy you brought this up because this pivots to a great point actually as soon as i saw the two young guys get subbed in and then i was watching the watch along with gumpy and then on air the uh these are two of the best finishers or strikers and they reference the penalties that are going to come up and it felt as if everybody knew these two were going to be two of the five kickers or whatever
Starting point is 00:18:49 and as somebody that was a professional ball kicker for a living and also as somebody that played soccer growing up for most of my life I thought that was a wildly aggressive decision if these two kids dudes men sorry okay they're, okay, they're men, they are adults, but you get in this. If they get subbed in with two minutes left and extra time, and they have the ability to somehow get the jitters out, get a feel for the game, get
Starting point is 00:19:15 comfortable, and then walk up to that penalty spot and bury it, you've got to talk about some of the most savage mental humans in existence. I think Kobe, one of those guys that could have been able to do that. I think Adam Vinatieri is a guy that could have won in there and did that. I think there's a couple others, maybe.
Starting point is 00:19:34 But just dropping them in the biggest moment. Now, this is your guys' words, and I know you guys do over-exaggerate on a very regular basis with this fucking soccer we're all learning. on a very regular basis with this fucking soccer we're all learning. But since 1966, finals in London, two minutes left in extra time, dropping these two guys in there and just being like, yeah, just go, hey, go have some precision in the biggest moment of all time and knock it in. I thought that was a wild decision just as a human. These aren't video games.
Starting point is 00:20:00 This is humans that have to get into a game and a flow and a feel. If they would have been able to do that, unbelievable. But that was a tough move, I thought, Nigel. I don't know soccer as well as you, but that seemed like a very aggressive decision. Is that normal or no? No, it's not normal. It's unknown. I think what you said there, you said the aggressive decision, that was the only aggressive decision that Carousel made in the whole tournament. It was probably one of the most unaggressive, non-attack-minded. And when you think about the England team, they've got a load of flair.
Starting point is 00:20:29 They weren't unleashed. They weren't unleashed to do what they had to do. And the only reason he put them on with two minutes to go because he didn't want to put them on with five minutes to go or ten minutes to go in case he lost. And what happened yesterday, the fear of losing overran the hope of winning and the excitement of winning.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And I think, you know, if you've got anything in life, you've got one shot at it, you've got to take it. Next morning, you're going to regret it. And I think those players will look at this morning and they'll regret what happened to them. And I think he made that call with two minutes to go because he didn't want to bring them on with 10 minutes to go and concede the goal. That's exactly why he left it late. And it was ridiculous because, like you said, they weren't warmed up. I think it was Harashford's first kick of the game was the penalty. I don't think he even touched the ball for that penalty.
Starting point is 00:21:12 He's got the nation on his shoulders. He's got 80,000 people in the stadium cheering him, and he has to do that under pressure. Just very, very bad. But let's just not take nothing away. I mean, Gareth, the manager of the England football team is a credit to this nation. He's a fantastic coach
Starting point is 00:21:28 and on the night, let's be honest with you, we were beaten by the better side. England played very well in the first half. We can't beat them out there
Starting point is 00:21:35 because this is sport, top level sport. We just didn't have that extra gear to go in so you can blame manager decisions. But if you said to me a month ago
Starting point is 00:21:43 that I would watch England in a major final, I would have said, Pat, I would take your right arm off to have that opportunity. So if we played really well and we got beat, I would be a bit more sorry today. But I think on the reflection of the tournament and on the reflection of the game last night, it hurts me to say, but the best team definitely won. That's very adultic.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Wow. Thank you, guys. That's very level-headed of you. I didn't expect that today. I saw a guy gumpy yesterday. I think tears were actually shed yesterday because of the massive moment to what you said. If you would have told me a month ago we're going to be in a major final, I would have given my arm or whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:20 But you said that this team was the team to go because they were young and they don't know what they don't know. When the coach, though, starts getting a little bit of a tight ass. All right. Now, this is something that happens in football. Whenever you're kind of loose and free, having a good time and you're just balling and balling and balling, it's good. But once one person who's potentially in a leadership role in your club. Now, I don't know. This is just football talking. I assume it. Humans are all humans once
Starting point is 00:22:45 that little bit of anxiety gets brought in or a little bit of tightness that can really spread to people so this carefree young we don't know what we don't know demeanor all of a sudden can get changed because of just a couple people maybe making it out to be what it is which is the biggest moment of all time I wish those young dudes would have got a chance to be electrifying because that that would have been amazing the the celebration where were you when the fireworks were i mean everything that you because that's right in the middle of right in the middle of london i was watching obviously the the medal ceremony i don't think i've watched enough of those england just taking those off immediately amazing i guess that happens in every soccer medal ceremony or whatever,
Starting point is 00:23:25 but the confetti flying, the whole thing, the thought of that in London, and then the fireworks that were across the top of the stadium like it was the Olympics. Yeah. And the city streets were just bare. Everything was just empty out. If England would have won that,
Starting point is 00:23:42 that would have been a fucking spectacle. Instead, it seemed like you guys got home quicker If England would have won that, that would have been a fucking spectacle. Instead, it seemed like you guys got home quicker than anybody in the history of sport. To be fair, Pat, I never saw any of that. I was on the train. So thanks for telling me that. You guys got out of there, right? Out of there.
Starting point is 00:24:02 As soon as I saw Sackett take the third penalty, I thought, there's no way. The fifth penalty, I didn't think he was going to score. I was down the stairs before he even took it. Put my head up. We suffered it! I'm out of here. That's awesome. Get out of town. Not watching it.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Man, that's a shame. It would have been beautiful. Nigel, it was a lot of fun riding alongside you. Gumpy, you have anything to say to Nigel? Yeah, Nigel, didn't you think it was kind of crazy to watch Southgate go around and figure out who was taking penalties? Like, there had to be a conversation at some point
Starting point is 00:24:30 where you know who your best five guys are to take penalty shots. But he said in his press conference straight after they knew the five, but I don't think you know the five until you look them in the eyes on the pitch. I think you look at them and think to yourself, right, who wants it?
Starting point is 00:24:45 Who doesn't want it? I was disappointed that Jack Grealish never took one. I was disappointed that Raheem Sterling didn't took one. And I feel that if I was in that side and I was a professional football player and I was in my 20s or late, early 30s, there is no way that I would let a 19-year-old kid take that penalty ahead of me.
Starting point is 00:25:03 As a senior player, I'd say, no, this is my opportunity. I think he made a big, bad decision to take off Jordan Henderson. I thought Henderson would have taken the penalty. Captain of Liverpool, captain of one in Champions League, one Premier League titles. I thought he would have taken the penalty. But I just feel that in that moment, you've just got to look in the eyes of the players
Starting point is 00:25:22 and think who's going to take it. But, you know, what I did say to you, the players and think who's going to take it but you know I did say to you Pat and Gumpy as well this England side have never had any problems
Starting point is 00:25:29 they've never any hurt they've never had any disappointment well they have now and we have to see whether that will make them or break them
Starting point is 00:25:36 so one thing we'll do I think we'll grow from it I think we'll get more exciting play because I think the country now knows we're in
Starting point is 00:25:43 touching distance of winning a tournament and which are the few adjustments tactical adjustments we could get it okay so a couple more questions here around the room because I mean there's a lot to dive into and we know little to nothing about soccer other than what we've been watching but whenever it goes to penalties it there's so much drama I I mean, it was just so much drama. It was so quick in and out there. And to your point about them being young and not being through anything, you know, Messi, it feels like with all his disappointment,
Starting point is 00:26:13 this last Copa was like one where they were like, hey, let's win this one for Messi. They were throwing him around, tossing him around. Maybe this young crew, because they have continued the legacy of losing, you know, which is what England has become known for. If that 19-year-old kid steps up and buries that, though, think about what that does for that team with how young
Starting point is 00:26:32 they are. It's kind of like running a fake in American football. You're either the smartest dude of all time or an absolute idiot. I think subbing those guys in late, not getting them in there, and then now the 19-year-old is the last kicker. Hindsight's terrible, especially with everything you're saying about those others. But imagine if England wins that on those young guys' backs.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Oh, man. Oh, it's set up forever, Nigel. It's set up forever. Do you know who was going to be, if he scored and he went to sudden death, do you know who was going to be the sixth penalty taker? Got to be Pickford. The goalkeeper, yeah. He was going to be our sixth goalkeeper.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And that would have been very interesting to see what he had done. But, I mean, really, I mean, it's very disappointing. We see it today, and those three players who took the penalty, it's 23-21-19. That takes some balls to get up there at 19 and do it. So even though we missed it, he went up in my estimations to go and do it. There's not many 19-year-old kids. There was a lot of 19-year-old kids outside the stadium drinking Stella and trying to pass through security guards with no tickets to get in do it. There's not many 19-year-old kids. There was a lot of 19-year-old kids outside the stadium
Starting point is 00:27:25 drinking Stella and trying to pass through security guards with no tickets to get in the match. One of them wouldn't have the balls to kick that penalty even though he missed it. So fair play to the lad, and I hope that he can recover and we go again. But nothing but pride for me. It's been an absolute amazing adventure for the last month.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Loved every minute of it, and we're going to Qatar in a year. Let's have it over there. We've appreciated the hell out of you joining us. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Nigel, that is what my question is about. With Qatar, you know, about a year and a half to go, how do these guys get over this?
Starting point is 00:27:56 Because, I mean, if you lose one of the biggest tournaments, I guess, for England, the Super Bowl, if you will, until next year or next month at the Olympics, what can these kids do to kind of like fix their mentals because of how messed up they're going to be after this loss? And do you represent how all of England feels with like, hey, good on them for
Starting point is 00:28:14 stepping up there and going, or is there a lot of people that are burying those kids right now? There's a lot of people who are burying the kids, unfortunately, but I think that they're a small minority of people. I mean, the three lads who missed the penalty have had some terrible criticism today on social media. There's a mural to Rashford. I mean, you've got to remember Marcus Rashford during COVID has been helping out,
Starting point is 00:28:35 killed him over here, competing against the government to give people with poverty school-free lunches for kids at school. He's done a fantastic job, not only on the pitch, but off the pitch. He's a role model. And what they deserve this morning has been disgraceful. But I think the majority of people would have my, with nothing but pride, with regard to how they bounce back. However much you look at the manager, Gareth Southgate,
Starting point is 00:29:00 he might not be the most tactically astute manager. There's better managers in top-level football. But the one thing he is, he's the best man-manager for these young players. They look at him as a father figure. He's been through what they've been through. He's missed the penalty in a big tournament, and he can get them through it. So we've got to keep dreaming. And I'll tell you what, this time next year, it's coming home.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Don't start that shit. I don't want to hear that shit. Nigel, I'm not doing it. I rode this damn wave. Okay, I learned more about this in the history of English soccer here the last couple of weeks. And I was in. I was like, good for England.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Good for England. And then it's over and it's like, alright, Olympics are right around the corner. We're going to win that one. It seems like you guys make everything the Super Bowl, which I respect. I absolutely respect it. But also, you guys need to start having
Starting point is 00:29:49 a little bit more respect for the fucking Super Bowl, I think, with the way you guys describe. Euros is the Super Bowl. World Cup's the Super Bowl. Olympics is the Super Bowl. Premier League's the Super Bowl. Champions League's the Super Bowl. There's so many opportunities to win it feels like
Starting point is 00:30:05 and lose I guess is how you guys have to look at it now at this point, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, but there's only
Starting point is 00:30:11 two major football tournaments. The World Cup is obviously in the European Championship. That's it. Concava. The Concava Cup. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:30:19 League off. No! Hey, listen, Nigel. Connor announced this yesterday. We'll go trophy for trophy with the Europe's champion. If Italy wants to come on over,
Starting point is 00:30:31 okay, we've got stadiums just fine. If you want to come on over and go trophy for trophy, we would be open to that completely. How would you bet America against Italy in that tournament now? Have you had that bet? Me? Minus 120 Italy. Minus 130 Italy to win that game.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Listen. Good odds for us. Yeah, free money. So we'll be plus what? 115, 150 then you think? That could be a big price to win in 90 minutes. But anyway, I mean, that'll be a great game. Oh, this.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Hey, you guys can't beat the Italians. I don't need you telling us. I don't need you telling us. I don't need you telling us. And we got our, hey, Nigel, this is, we're getting way off topic here at this point, and Ty will be the last question, but why do you think we put our shit team in the, by the way, they're much better at soccer than I am.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Okay, I'm not saying that. We didn't put our heavy hitters, I don't think, in the Gold Cup tournament. Is there a reason why, like for you guys in the Olympics? Is it a much different team than the team we saw the other day? What is team selection? And why don't we have our best?
Starting point is 00:31:34 We won't put a team in the Olympics. There won't be a Great Britain team in the Olympics in the soccer tournament. Oh, us either. And I wouldn't be surprised if... England didn't qualify for the Olympics either? How come everybody attacks us for this then? Whoa.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I'm done with this question. You have to be under 23 to play in the Olympics. But the trouble is that we have a different Scottish league, an English league, a Welsh league. And the trouble is you have to be all affiliated to one league to be into the Olympics. So we only did it for our home Olympics. And we got beat on that as well in the semifinals and penalties as well, I think.
Starting point is 00:32:10 That's a shame. That is a tough ending for that. Why are we sending, if you had to guess from afar across the pond, you've known soccer much more than I do, as does Gumby and Willis. Why are we sending our shit team to this thing? The Gold Cup, everybody's saying, is more important than the CONCACAF. Why don't we have our best players? What is that all about?
Starting point is 00:32:28 I think the players have to be under the age of 23. No, no, no. For the Gold Cup, not for the Olympics. I'm sorry about the Olympics. Sorry. No, yeah. But also for the Olympics, we got Pulisic. We got Reyna.
Starting point is 00:32:41 We got an entire squad that we could have put in there. We chose not to do it. Is it because they're tired, hurt? What is it? I think it must be to do with the player. I don't think the player might want to play. He might want to rest the club. The club level might take precedence over the club.
Starting point is 00:32:55 And really, in the world of football, the only thing that gives a lesson sort of is a World Cup or a European Championship. I would like to be arrogant about our soccer team. And it's hard to do that whenever our team chooses not to play because they've got club sports which make them all of their money. Can't we do it for country? What about soccer
Starting point is 00:33:13 coming home for the first time? That's right. You know what I mean? What about 1966 never happening here for the first time? Come on. Go ahead, Ty. Nigel, with the way that game went yesterday what was the atmosphere like in the stadium because like we watched gumpy basically just melt live on uh you know the youtube stream like have you been in any environment that's been
Starting point is 00:33:38 similar to that i mean it seems like you go to a lot of stuff but i imagine that was just absolutely crazy in the stadium i mean i've been i've been to um the best atmosphere was the germany game actually the germany game was because we finally beat germany that was the best atmosphere the tournament was with him but the thing is that when the goal was in after two minutes we were in complete shock it was like it was the whole stadium they were they were celebrating they just couldn't believe what was happening but there was one guy just jumped straight over the top of me and he was almost completely stark guy just jumped straight over the top of me, and he was almost completely stark naked, just jumped straight over the top. Oh, was it the guy with the flag?
Starting point is 00:34:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was all I could see for the first goal. Was that Tom? Jeez. Yeah, and then as the game went on, you could feel the nervousness. You knew that if the Italians had much more of the ball, they were going to get better. And with regard,
Starting point is 00:34:25 the only atmosphere I've ever been to where I can compare it to that was when Anthony Joshua fought Vladimir Klitschko at Wembley. That was
Starting point is 00:34:35 phenomenal atmosphere. And I've never been to a big American NFL game, so I can't really compare it to that. But I think the heavyweight title
Starting point is 00:34:42 fight between AJ and Klitschko was incredible. It's a Super Bowl. It's a Super Bowl. It really is a Super Bowl. Ladies and gentlemen, sober up. We appreciate you, Nigel. You have been fantastic for us this entire run.
Starting point is 00:34:54 We can't thank you enough, brother. Thank you very much, everybody. All the best and well done again on the great tour. Keep up the good work. Thank you. Yeah, good work, everybody. Ladies and gentlemen, Nigel Seeley. Nigel!
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Starting point is 00:36:34 was had this past weekend, a man who has won a college football national championship, a Super Bowl champion, a man who drained a very long putt this weekend, a guy who joins us every
Starting point is 00:36:53 single day we work because of how much he loves doing this show and hopefully will continue to do this show long term potentially. Ladies and gentlemen AJ Hawk what you learn from Aaron AJ come on don't AJ, come on. Come on. Don't be shy, AJ.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Oh, AJ's not here. What? No way. What do you mean? Huh? What do you mean? What? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Today was his travel day. No way. Yeah, yeah. Oh, there are no early flights. Well, he said there was, you know, just the time difference. And he had to stop somewhere. His favorite spot he is stopping at on the way oh nap of hell okay he's stopping there yeah geez hawk yeah so i thought just like everybody else that aj hawk was going to be on today i was excited woke up this morning actually somebody
Starting point is 00:37:55 had tweeted us a video aj drained like a 75 foot putt this weekend he finished 10 under at the american century championship minus 10 i mean are you i was excited for this car he was hanging out He finished 10 under at the American Century Championship. Minus 10. I mean, I was excited for this guy. He was hanging out with Aaron. There was pictures. There was sightings. He actually had a pretty good shot on the guy. The guy did jump, which is what we talked about.
Starting point is 00:38:15 It was a good tackle. Who knows? I was so pumped this morning. I was in the shower. I was getting hit with the water. Of course. I live good now. I've got two shower heads, by the way. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:38:25 One on the wall? Well, they I live good now. I've got two shower heads, by the way. Get out of here. One on the wall? Well, they're both technically on the wall. The ceiling, I've not gone to yet. Oh, I don't have the waterfall. I don't like the waterfall. Oh, you don't?
Starting point is 00:38:32 I'm not a waterfall person. You go into a resort, really nice shower, hotel, whatever, and they have the waterfall option. Yeah, I'm out. Give me the one over here.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Oh, the shower head. Yeah, because I don't need that thing coming straight down. Now, it is a relaxing thing, I think, when I'm maybe too doped up. I just go ahead and sit in it and that whole thing. But anytime I need to actually shower and do that, I'm an on-the-wall type person. Now, there's been hotels that have it too low or too high. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And there's no juice or whatever. But I love shower. Like, a shower is, I think it's, I don't know. I heard Tom Brady say this to Howard Stern. I think I'm a meditator in the shower. The shower is like, I enjoy it. I will sit there and I will just sit there and think about life. The invention of hot water.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Such a good one. Genius. It'll change me. It takes me from, I mean, I am almost like Superman going into a phone booth there where I can be doped and drowsy, go in there, hot water on the other side. It's like fresh as a daisy. You know what I mean? It is incredible what a shower can do.
Starting point is 00:39:36 But I have one hot one and then one cold one that I wash my face with. Because Pharrell, the guy who looks like he's 12 years old still, and I think he's like 60. Look up how old Pharrell is. You will be mind blown. He said he washes his face with cold water so it tightens up the skin. So that's my new thing now that I care. I used to have just acne and scar all over my face. Now I'm doing Pharrell's move with the cold water but while
Starting point is 00:40:06 i was sitting in the hot water i was thinking about all the great conversations we can have with aj hawk okay i'm like rolling rolling rolling then i go over to do turn it on to do the face wash routine you know while the body's still getting hot and as soon as that water hit me like we're cold i immediately go i have not talked to AJ. Is AJ on the show? Oh, jeez. So then I do it again. So then I get out of the shower. That's how the shower ends. I get out of the shower, FaceTime him, no answer.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Okay, okay. Text message him, no answer, obviously. So then I have to do a follow-up like 50 minutes before the show. I go, hey, are you on today? Oh, sorry, pal. I'm on a plane right now. I'll be back tomorrow. I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:40:43 Oh, how convenient. I had a 7 minute shower 2 and a half songs played on the bluetooth which I have to keep on because the amount of songs tell me how long I've been in there because I will fuck around and be in there 25-30 minutes and I can't have it
Starting point is 00:40:58 so I gotta keep the songs on I had 7 minutes worth of excitement to talk to AJ Hawk and Crimson Chin still in the fucking sky right now after an incredible weekend of going 10 under at the American Century Championship. I'm upset. I'm disappointed. But A.J. Hawk will make it right. It's actually breaking news.
Starting point is 00:41:15 What? Breaking news. Wow. A.J. will not be with us today? Yeah. Yeah, it is. I mean, it's pretty big news. I mean, I was afraid this was going to happen, Pat.
Starting point is 00:41:24 He's gotten too big time for us, I think. It's on the SeatGeek ticker. AJ Hawk will not be joining us today. Isn't it crazy? Because at the beginning of this whole thing, when we started, he would just go hop in the back of a minivan, load up his entire family of 12, and just drive around the country for a couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And he'd be gone two weeks. Then he'd come back, and everything was good. And then he'd go away, and he'd come back. We miss you, AJ. Hey, we miss you, AJ. We miss you come back. We miss you, AJ. Hey, we miss you, AJ. We miss you, Kyle. We miss you, AJ. I guess.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I didn't think he could become any more of a dirtbag, and here we are. This guy's just missing out every day. I thought we had, okay, we went on that break and we were back for 25 minutes, 30 minutes with AJ before he went on this entire 10-day excursion or whatever. Remember, while he was gone last week, we were watching old A.J. Hawk film. Oh, my God. Did we not all think, like,
Starting point is 00:42:10 we're not going to do this anymore? We're not going to do what you just did to A.J. Hawk? No, we weren't. I think you forget that he is a... He's an explosive son of a bitch. Oh, yeah. Big body. 4'4", jumping over Jimmy Graham at times.
Starting point is 00:42:24 And he would just eat people's faces we're talking about our species now mutina we learned maybe greatest draw of all time but maybe that's only because we haven't seen aj sit in there and just get punched in the face for 14 straight minutes that's a good point i think aj may be greatest boxer to never exist. Yeah. How fast he is, how athletic he is, how explosive he is and how his jawline is. I think he potentially, if the NFL is to continue to pump out these boxers,
Starting point is 00:42:56 I Taylor's in the game. Pac-Man is getting in the game. Like I think AJ is potentially our boxing, you know, guy, but will he ever get into it? We don't know. I think he might start, though, if you keep saying he's a dirtbag and scumbag
Starting point is 00:43:08 and stuff like that, which is why I think we move past those types of situations, but you have forgotten about him. Also, you look at it, and we forget because we see him every day, and it's just kind of like shoulders up. I mean, he looks like a little bit – I'll tell you what. You see him with that golf polo on. AJ's still fucking stacked. He's still yoked up.o too that was a medium yeah yeah he's wearing properly sized though now this one was Strahan and Sean Payton who uh just got a movie made about him from Kevin James exactly alike too so okay so Sean Payton's living is Is it the, we were going to ask, this is one of the things.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Exactly. So many things. And that guy. The best part about AJ is, though, when he does come back, he will spill all the beans. Tell us the truth about everything. Yeah, right. All right, let's talk.
Starting point is 00:43:57 What did you say, Zito? We have a guest this hour. You don't have to say this loud, but what is it again? Can you remind me? Go ahead. Do we have a guest this hour? Not as of now, but hopefully coming up soon. Oh, I thought you said 48.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Does that know what you said in my ear there? Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm being fucking serious right now. I've never said anything in your ear at all. Okay, so you're just lying blatantly there. Alright, so I thought you said something about 8 or something like that. Did you not say anything about anything? No.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Okay, because we have a potential guest joining us this hour zito is supposed to keep me updated while i was speaking earlier you definitely said something into my ear i don't know if it was something differently i was on a roll i couldn't hear completely we are not locked in on said guests yet is what you're saying no that was age of uh pharrell there it is okay okay so i thought i heard 48 because i was in the middle of speaking i I remember that. How old is Pharrell? 48. Oh, okay. So you did say 48 even though you just got done saying I said nothing in your ear.
Starting point is 00:44:52 By the way, that is what separates this show from any other show. I just want to let that be known. I forgot about that. We went right past that. I didn't say anything. Nope. I never said anything to you. I will say I was wrong, by the way. I forgot to say anything. Nope. I never said anything to you. Like, if I was wrong, by the way.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I forgot to say the last part about the guests. Yes. I did not say anything about the guests. Okay, got it. Yeah. All right. Yeah, that's a good deflection. I mean, you and Connor have become a fucking Patrick Waugh back there.
Starting point is 00:45:19 But I was excited whenever you, because we were talking about something that we had to finish. But when it came in there, we might have a guest today, Sourpree. Come on. Here we go, boys. You're actively seeking guests during the show. This is cool. So we have brought on a company that is, I mean, allegedly pretty connected. Top dog.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Because I'm tired of sending DMs and texts every morning when I wake up on who should come on the show because a lot of people start feeling like they're real important you know what I mean oh yeah you know who I'm talking about absolutely who am I talking about Dane Orszowski okay no that's not who I was talking about why do you got to bury Dane Orszowski he was hanging out with Dude Perfect yesterday he's living his best life I'm not talking about I'm talking about Ariel Awani oh sure that's who I'm talking about Ariel Awani. Oh, sure. That's who I'm talking about, you know. And we could potentially try to get Ariel on today and talk about the fights, but I'd
Starting point is 00:46:09 much rather not do that. Has he thanked us for his seven jobs he's gotten yet? Not that I know of. No. You all never. Do you think those companies, all those companies that hired him, saw him on ESPN and were like, we want that guy. Or do you think maybe they saw him be okay on the internet? Bingo. I think they saw that one, but then I think they probably saw that tweet that was going around.
Starting point is 00:46:28 So he might be scrambling. DC seems to be pushing everybody else. Hey, I will say this. Ryan Clark is going to dominate with DC. Oh, man. I'm so pumped. I don't know if Ariel knows enough about Ryan Clark. I know there were peers over there at ESPN.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Ryan Clark will get to the bottom and be good at anything. And he has a work ethic. He was on ESPN there from 6 a.m. to 2 a.m. every single day like two falls ago. That's going to be great. ESPN is really pushing all of their shit MMA-wise now, aren't they? Seems like a much more concerted effort to kind of push all the MMA stuff. I don't think it's fair to our guy Ariel.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I do not think it's fair at all to our guy Ariel, but hey, that's business, I guess ESPN says. It's almost like Dana White was like, hey, as soon as you guys get rid of Helwani, let's start talking UFC, MMA on ESPN, huh? That's great. Everybody, Teddy Atlas was doing it. Yeah, legitimately.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Hey, Teddy Atlas, late night after the fight, was giving his entire geography lesson and fight game where he needs to be. It was awesome. Bro, guillotine that Conor tried to put him in. I mean, it was – they had every – Max was there. Stephen A's flying on private planes rocking two chains there. It feels like what he has – what's that with the shirt?
Starting point is 00:47:38 Stephen A, yeah. Stephen A was – that was a pretty good look. Hey, he looked good out there. Yeah, white blazer, black tee. Swag. Couple chains. Stephen A's living, by the way. Oh, white blazer, black tee. Swag. A couple changes. He looked good. Stephen A is living, by the way.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Oh, yeah. I absolutely love it. Seen the look before. Everybody is pushing. It feels like ESPN is really pushing UFC, and it comes immediately after Ariel departs. Makes sense. That's unbelievable. I mean, Ariel probably has some conspiracies to cook up publicly.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Yeah. I think we should listen to them, though espn's coverage of the ufc this past weekend was mighty it was vast oh yeah huge and it was you know it was kind of an awesome fight card to be honest yeah the last fight ended how none of us would have wanted or expected but at one point during the night sugar sean was crossing people and then playing bongos with the guys literally just doing this and punching a guy in the face. A man with no button. Instead, he somehow got knocked out once in the fight
Starting point is 00:48:31 and still continued to fight. We were watching. It was a show. It was electrifying. Promo was cut afterwards. Moutinho was, everything was good. Then there was Greg Hardy getting knocked out by a guy who Ty became a big fan of
Starting point is 00:48:46 because of his name, because of his style. But when he starts chugging beers and seltzers out of his shoe, happy dad got a great plug right there. I don't know if that was on purpose or not, but if that was scripted or planned, him chugging these beers going, it was a great show through the night. I think we all can agree with that. Oh, yeah, for sure. And I do want to give a special shout-out to Greg Hardy
Starting point is 00:49:05 because he did get knocked out so early in that fight, and that was such a quick fight. We got to the main event like an hour earlier than we thought we were going to. Very nice of Greg Hardy. Yeah. Huge. So that was awesome. I think live while we were watching, we said,
Starting point is 00:49:18 nobody's going to point out the fact that Greg Hardy eating that hook to the eyeball and getting knocked out after looking pretty, it looked like in his face. He wobbled the guy. He was going to finish him. Yeah, very comfortable, very confident. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, leg buckle, body buckle. But you're right. Because it was so quick, everything kind of got expedited and moved up.
Starting point is 00:49:37 It wasn't a 2 a.m. It was a 12-15 start for the fight that we got to talk about. I, Conor McGregor guy, through and through. He's an Irish guy. Yep. He's entertaining. He talks a lot of shit. I watch his documentary.
Starting point is 00:49:52 He comes from next to nothing. He took over the game business-wise. He's a fighter. So outside of the cage, outside of the ring, he's made some decisions. You go, what the fuck are you doing? But he's also signed up to go fight people inside of the cage so i assume there are some personality traits that potentially come with not all fighters some particular fighters where outside of the ring or outside of the gym there are some decisions that could be made to you go well why are you doing
Starting point is 00:50:19 that way well they also go in to go try to kill people, too. So you can ask why on both things. Some of those in a fight game, I think, happens. It's not cool, obviously, when anything bad happens outside of the sport. But I think it has a potential happening in the fight game. Now, Conor McGregor brought electricity. He brought the WWE full force into the UFC. He wasn't the first. He just mastered it and was better than everybody else. He brought in the Billy Strut from Vince McMahon. He understood the fight game, I think,
Starting point is 00:50:50 better from a marketing and promotional standpoint than anybody in the history of the UFC, Conor McGregor. And he also had a work ethic and a skill and a talent that he could match the shit talk and back it up because the best shit talk is the real shit talk. And when you're becoming the champion in 15, 20 seconds or whatever it is, and then when you're winning two championships, and you really have the fight game in a spot that you can end any fight with anybody, you can be better than anybody, and once you have that and you shit talk, you're talking epitome sports entertainer there.
Starting point is 00:51:29 When your skill can match, when your skill level is high and your mouth can match it, that is when here we go. So Connor captivated me. He captivated everybody. When he got into the boxing game with Floyd Mayweather, also human, who figured out the game of boxing better than anybody in the history of boxing and his skill level was at a point where he could do it when he did i bet on him there i bet on conor mcgregor going over there conor's not going to get into this even though it's going to be a big payday and everything like that because at that point his fight reputation was so fucking positive and so good why would you do this other than the payday payday's coming no matter what you're already paid why would you do this unless you thought you were good?
Starting point is 00:52:06 So I actually thought to myself, Conor's not signing up for this if he isn't. And the odds were like plus 10,000 or something like that. So I bet a massive amount on that because the payday would have been hysterical. And for 10 rounds, he was legit. And then finally, Floyd outlasted him and just beat the hell out of him.
Starting point is 00:52:22 But still, he put on a good show. What he became when he became a billionaire and he's sleeping on satin sheets in yachts, it can become difficult, I assume, to want to wake up in the morning, pound the pavement aerial, told us one fighter said, but also get tapped out, potential get ringworm, get your face rubbed in some stuff,
Starting point is 00:52:41 as much as somebody who doesn't have any of that stuff because that's what you're fighting for to begin with, you get in the fight game for your legacy, but also because the riches that come alongside of it, Connor has achieved all of those. And in the notorious documentary, money was a massive motive. I mean, this is obviously for everybody that comes from money was the most. So once you get all that, how can you still train and be as savage as the person who's trying to achieve all that? I often wondered that. I asked that question. But still back Connor because Connor was my guy.
Starting point is 00:53:15 This past weekend was what happened with the whole wife in the DMs. Oh, man. Okay. So Dustin Poirier, the diamond from Lafayette or whatever the lafayette i don't know what it is but what i don't know enough about him i will learn the night before the fight the other guy is telling the entire world that your wife is in his dms or was in his dms at one point now what was said who knows could have been a fuck you yeah could have been anything could have been way before could have been way before. Could have been anything.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Right. Yeah. But just putting it out there how it was. Then he comes into the arena. This guy is booed. Okay. So somebody leaking that your wife potentially was trying to cheat on you, which was the angle it was. We're not saying that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Could have been a lot of messages, but that was the angle it was. That's baby face. Right. That guy then becomes the sad. So sorry. Your wife did this to you you like that is a baby face he walks out he's hated by everybody gets booed by everybody in there so this guy within a 24 hour period heard and was told by everybody on earth that his wife was trying to cheat on him
Starting point is 00:54:16 or potentially had sex with connor before she met whatever the narrative was could have been a lot of other things but that was the narrative that was taken then he gets booed by an entire arena i started feeling bad for the guy at that point then when connor comes out and connor's very aggressive two spin kicks earlier whatever and he starts he's he is doing well but then dustin starts doing his thing to him right and i didn't catch the point to the missed leg kick that potentially started the crack in the either ankle or lower leg thing there. But when Dustin pointed at that, I think that is a moment that's going to live on forever there. What happens after the match, when Conor's sitting on the ground, still saying, your wife's in me, DMs, I think that was tough for me to be like, okay, Conor, come on.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And when Dustin was on top of him ground and pounding him it looked very reminiscent to a lot of fights that Conor has potentially not boated well or fared well in whenever he's on his back or whatever one for the guillotine shout out Teddy Atlas and he missed it but then he ended up on his back and the commentators don't ever seem to be on Conor's side by the way a lot of like oh this is bad for Conor this is bad for Conor and everything they were pointing out I was starting to think back to his fights since 2016 he only has one win or whatever that's five years and we're talking about boxing i think involved involved in there it's like four out of his last five fights he has lost the win is the shoulder in that thing is it that he is
Starting point is 00:55:40 sleeping in yachts or is it the fact that he's maybe just at a at a stage body wise physically that he can't do the same shit that everybody else is doing is he done does he come back i became a poirier guy on saturday with the way he handled it all and he clearly was winning the fight yeah and the other guy does i just i don't know i've always been a connor guy but on saturday i was like after the fight i was like i think i like this dusting guy a lot more than I could have ever imagined I've always been a Conor guy too and it made me think like and and he still is but I was like our is a McGregor fight just like appointment viewing anymore like will I no matter what spend 70 bucks like I don't know because like you said he hasn't won and where he's won one time in five years it feels like the last couple fights haven't
Starting point is 00:56:22 been like particularly close so it's just I don't know it's he said the second round was going to change or whatever yeah i don't know as a conor mcgregor guy i don't know enough about the sport i don't know once again conor mcgregor i've supported for a long long time as a fan i bet on him and everything and he was calling for a doctor's stoppage or whatever because his leg broke. And you saw, by the way, when it happened. And then he still had to sit on his back. I mean, it was incredible toughness and grit shown by Conor. For sure. This is not a knock on Conor.
Starting point is 00:56:54 But I became a big Poirier. I think after the fight, I don't know what the right promo angle is there for both of them. Because Poirier is going to get another fight, which is awesome for Poirier. He's going to get another payday with Conor and everything like that. But I think Conor could have handled that. I don't know. It was almost a turn of the tide, I think, in feelings towards Conor and most definitely towards Dustin Poirier, for sure.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Poirier's wife in the ring flipping McGregor off right before he cuts his promo. But you kind of have to respect it. dude's ankle is basically hanging off his body and he's already promoting his next fight he was getting pummeled in there destroyed like he was just eating elbows for about two minutes of the first round his skin must be tougher than most people's probably because he's irish i guess but true he should have been busted open a few times on that eye with a couple of poyes, and it never happened. And I don't think I've seen any even swelling somehow. There was elbows dropped on his eye when he was on the ground.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Bad. Now, he was doing damage as well, but I think poye was winning at the time. And poye said, I checked your kick. And then the internet finds it where he's like, I think a lot of points Poirier in the entire game. Well, isn't that exactly what happened in the previous fight? Like, they did that kind of thing, and then the second round, like, Poirier just battered his ass big time and knocked him out.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Like, who's to say that wasn't going to happen again? You know what I mean? Like, I almost feel bad for him, too, because I feel like... Poirier or Conor? Poirier, because, like, he, – like you get wrapped up in this like McGregor trilogy and then like it's tough to walk away from that because you know how much you're getting paid. But also like if he beats Conor again, like is that really elevating his status that much? Yeah, now it's – because the winner of that was going to go on and get a title shot, Dana said.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Poirier beats him again. He's going to go get a title. So then as Conor worked his way back into a championship fight then, and then how pissed off will everybody be in the fight game that Conor gets it? That's all for somebody else to figure out. I'm just saying from a
Starting point is 00:58:57 everything is the WWE perspective of life, which Conor and I talked about, that is how I look at everything. I know it's not right. I know it's much more serious than that. Maybe. But it's a lot easier whenever you just view life as WWE, and it's like, oh, that's a good character. Just came in.
Starting point is 00:59:11 All right, out of there. See you later. Oh, bad character. Yeah, once you start doing that, I think the whole narrative after that fight changed. I'm a big diamond guy all of a sudden. I like old Dustin Poirier. Yeah, I mean, would you even want to see another fight
Starting point is 00:59:24 between these two? You're going to want to see another fight between these two? You're going to want to see any fight that Conor gets into because his promo ability is so good. It is so good. But against Poirier, I don't know because the last two... He's just going to box, right? Conor's going to go box. I don't know, though. What if he goes up against
Starting point is 00:59:39 Jake Paul and Jake Paul kicks his ass? Conor's done forever if that happens. If Jake Paul knocks Jake Paul kicks his ass. Conor's done forever if that happens. If Jake Paul knocks out Conor in a boxing match, could you fathom the world after that? What would Jake Paul be?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Plus 300 probably in that? Plus 350? Yeah, just about. In boxing you think? Bro, he's big size advantage. Now, obviously, Floyd Logan is something that everybody will compare that to, but I think Logan and Jake would say that
Starting point is 01:00:12 Jake's probably... I don't know. Is Jake the better boxer? I think Jake is the better boxer, right? Between Jake and Logan? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think so. Jake's the better boxer. He's a pro now. And Connor's much worse than Floyd. Which one's which? Which one fought Floyd? Logan.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Logan's taller though. So the other one's the better one because he's got the pro fight coming up against... Jake? Ooh, I don't... You guys think Jake's
Starting point is 01:00:33 better than Logan? I don't know which one. I always thought that was the better boxer. I thought that was the case. I thought that was the narrative. I don't watch enough film. Because he beat Ben Askren
Starting point is 01:00:39 and... He's a legit pro though now. I mean, he spends way more time on it. I think he's got actual chops. He's coming out three and a half years or something., though, now. I mean, like, he spends way more time on it. I think he's got actual chops. He committed three and a half years or something. Yeah. Logan, too.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I mean, I think they've kind of committed the same amount of time to this. Oh, so Logan is also. I didn't know. I thought Jake was committed more because Logan has the podcast, which is biggest in the world. Yeah. And everything else like that. I thought Jake was just full-time content boxer. I thought Logan was just, like, the big money fights.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Like, obviously, he's going to. You know, the Mayweather thing was the biggest error, but I feel like... Are we misreading this? I thought Jake wants to win a title. Anyways, Connor, Jake. It's going to be awesome. If Jake knocks him out, it's a problem. By the way, if Logan knocks out Connor, it's a problem. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:17 No matter what, if Connor gets in a boxer and gets knocked out by someone... He doesn't get knocked out, right? He just gets choked out. He got knocked out by Poirier last time. Yeah. Oh, yeah, sleep on a baby. That was, I guess, Khabib, kind of, but not really. He choked him out, right?
Starting point is 01:01:31 Yeah. Submit. But McGregor doesn't get better. His fights go on, like you said. Usually he gets it done early, or it does not get better for him in the second round, like you said. He does have boxing cardio. That's 10 rounds
Starting point is 01:01:45 that's a long time let's get to a break we covered that i think pretty good i mean i feel sometimes we dive into shit we shouldn't and i think to myself at the end of it like nobody should have had to listen to that or whatever i think we did that pretty good had to and that was the biggest thing that happened this weekend can't have manic on yet because we still got to talk. And to your point about how McGregor started out being the greatest promoter during the boxing, you're kind of getting that now with O'Malley, with Sugar Sean. So it's like you kind of have that next generation guy, hopefully. He's going to be the guy.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Yeah, 100%. He's so much taller than everybody he's going to fight down there. Yeah. And he grew up playing all the sports, so he's very athletic. And then his focus is not that wrestlers aren't very athletic okay but normally in the ball sports when a wrestler gets introduced they are the worst but if there's a leverage game the wrestler is going to win okay so it's not i'm not saying that but he seems to have like actual fluidity just like uh john jones by the way fluidity athletic just like Jon Jones, by the way.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Fluidity, athleticism, and he's been doing it since ninth grade year or whatever. It's a lot of time. And he's incredibly entertaining. Yeah. Gets it. He's the guy. He's the guy. 100%. Put over Moutinho, too.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Smart. Read the room. Yep. Smart. That's one of the toughest guys of all time. Because a lot of people are saying, oh, Sugar Sean can't bury somebody. It's like, yes, he can. He has buried everybody.
Starting point is 01:03:06 We need to not bury Sugar Sean's power because of Milford Mask Moutinho's jaw. That might be the toughest human to ever walk this earth. He was at training this morning, by the way, in class. Wow. But his face. His face looked like a catcher's mitt. Okay, one of those old ones that have lumps on it. His whole face, and he's just in there teaching.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Like, yeah, that's how you roll there. I love Moutinho. Yeah. Sugar Sean putting him over in the promo smart, and then doing his whole thing after. I think it was great. Won back the crowd. You know, because they were turning on him for some reason.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Because Herb Dean decided to save a life. Right. That's right. There is some potential breaking news that none of us want to say or hear after a successful ufc 264 where i don't believe espn was trending for having outages or not being able to have enough people on the platform feels like this was their first really tech glitch free UFC with the ESPN. Should go to be talked about. There should be noted because of all the negativity that is potentially there.
Starting point is 01:04:13 But there seems to be a lot less free streams out there as well. Dana has taken aim in all of that. UFC 264 from Sugar Sean all the way through Dustin Poirier. And that gruesome injury at the end could have ended better, but feel like it was a pretty good show. Yeah. Dana White.
Starting point is 01:04:29 It is post Jesus post event. Press conference said one sentence that really rattled us all to right to our core. Dana White said he thinks that there's another like sports shutdown potentially on its way with COVID and is this the Delta strand maybe I don't know enough about it and he said the UFC won't stop
Starting point is 01:04:54 though don't you worry about it so I don't know if he said this just to put over the UFC and bury everybody else which would be good promotion Dana White though thinks sports in the US could shut down again due to COVID. However, the UFC will not. Just like he had planned the last time this stopped, he got an island.
Starting point is 01:05:13 He was going to make things happen. He says that ESPN and Disney didn't allow him to continue to go on. But that statement right there, why is Dana saying it? You have to think that Dana probably knows things that we don't know. We've been dancing on the grave of COVID for a long time now. We predicted its death long before it actually died. We Babe Ruthed it from the batter's box. We said, hey, when somebody says this is going to happen in a month from now
Starting point is 01:05:47 and it's something that is victorious, it is something post-COVID like, we started celebrating because we needed to find something to find a little bit of happiness, to find a little bit of joy, to see the light at the end of this absolutely devastating COVID tunnel. We started pushing, hey, we beat COVID. We need to understand that although we all had to battle and we lost a lot of incredible humans to this thing and the world stopped and we changed and there's going to be a lot of issues with people long-term because they were locked in their houses for a long time. Our fight was a fight that was worth it. It was a good fight. We started saying, hey, good news. We beat COVID. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:06:29 We had other people say it. We celebrated it. As more news continue to roll out, NFL stadiums will be full by fall. We beat COVID. Yeah! UFC's in Jacksonville full arena. We beat
Starting point is 01:06:44 COVID. Yeah COVID Texas Rangers somehow got 40,000 people to watch baseball In one stadium We beat COVID Mask mandates were lifted In every single state and city Even the ones that were locked down The absolute most
Starting point is 01:07:04 Rates started dropping Death rates continued to somehow fall in every single state and city, even the ones that were locked down the absolute most. Rates started dropping. Death rates continued to somehow fall, even though they were already very, very, very small. It felt as if all signs were pointing towards us as a legion of humans from one side of this globe all the way around. I'm not saying it's a flat. To the other other we beat COVID
Starting point is 01:07:27 what the fuck is Dana White talking about no fans in Tokyo for the Olympics Dana White feels like sports is going to shut down what is happening are we we beat COVID right yeah Dana White feels like sports are going to shut down again. What is happening?
Starting point is 01:07:48 Are we – we beat COVID, right? Yeah, yeah. Huh? We beat COVID, right? Yeah. Did we not? You know what Dana's doing. What? He knows that in about a month,
Starting point is 01:08:02 his little organization is going to be an afterthought. Oh, my God. when the NFL comes back. So he's trying to shut down sports in the NFL so that he remains relevant. Sorry, Dana. The King's coming back in a month. Deal with it. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:14 The opinion of Diggs does not reflect that of the rest of the people that are on microphones currently, but I hope that's the case, and I hope it's not that we're getting back into a place that none of us want to go, and I feel like we'll be impossible to get to with families who have children that have been inside the house. But, hey, we'll ride the wave as we go.
Starting point is 01:08:32 We will continue to be the dumb monkeys on the screen making you laugh, hopefully, and covering the things that need to be covered. And hopefully those things are us beating COVID and sports being all the way back. Don't love what Dana just said. Joining us now is maybe a man who has some inside information on the league that Diggs just referenced right there. You know him from his incredible show that is currently on hiatus and is for the foreseeable future, Rap Sheet and Friends.
Starting point is 01:08:57 You know him as an insider from the NFL Network and the NFL as a whole. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Fresh off the course. How'd you do? How'd you play today? Did you play good golf today or no? I was going real good until about midway through 18. Then I went OB and things were not good.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Played a tough course. Shot 91. Can't say I'm not happy, but it is what it is. We'll play again tomorrow. Hey, you left it all out there there i'm happy you're just playing golf all the time while we're working classic story but let's dive into some of the stories you just heard everything we just did there and i apologize for making you wait a minute or two because as we were getting into it and deeper into it my brain realized
Starting point is 01:09:41 that we might have been dancing on a grave that hadn't been fully buried yet. And I don't like to think that we overreact, but everything I've been hearing from Roger Goodell in his Super Bowl press conference, owners' meetings, press conferences, with his doctor and the things he knows, talking about full stadiums in the fall, and now we're all there. Is there a glimmer or a thought that there's potentially going to be no football full stadiums in the fall? And why is Dana saying that, you think? Yeah, I would say this.
Starting point is 01:10:08 From everything I've heard, you are right. So, congratulations. Yeah! We did it! Yes! There's going to be stories told about the fight that humans had against this goddamn 19 Mr. COVID. I want to let you know that we got into the ring, and we took some. Hey, we mutinoed for a while.
Starting point is 01:10:36 That's right. All right, we ate 200 to 300 punches right to the face. Herb Dean didn't call it. Uh-uh. We were locked down. We were trapped. We were pinned down by a virus. And we fucking came out the other side of it. We lost a lot of fucking great people.
Starting point is 01:10:53 True. We went through some tough times. Hard times. We're talking hard times. But here we are, Monday, July 12th, saying the same thing we were saying Monday, April 12th. We be COVID reigning fucking champs. Yeah! Woo!
Starting point is 01:11:14 Ian, it feels like you know less than us that you've been golfing every day. What do you think? Well, the phones work. I got gloves that allow me to text when I can. Gloves? You wear both? Without taking my glove off. Hey, do you wear both hands gloves?
Starting point is 01:11:27 No. Give me a break. Okay. I didn't know. Fair question. Did you say gloves? Not a fair question. Even in the rain, I only wear one glove on the left hand.
Starting point is 01:11:35 I don't even mess around with two gloves in the rain. So, whatever. I just didn't know. I didn't know. There are some people out there that golf with two gloves on, and they're an interesting people. Let's talk, though, about what's going on in the NFL right now. What are the stories? What are the things we should keep updated on?
Starting point is 01:11:53 What should we think about here on this Monday here? I kind of want to answer your first thing about Dana White first, though. Like, you know, is there actually a possibility of a shutdown? And I would say this. Some of this does hinge on how many players actually get vaccinated. The numbers are pretty good and getting better. And I'm going to be really curious to see as we get closer to training camp and then into training camp, how many teams are 85 percent? Because the the rules are so drastically different for players who are vaccinated compared to players who are unvaccinated. I mean, from, you know, there's no daily test.
Starting point is 01:12:27 If you're vaccinated, you can go home during your bi-week. You can go to Jamaica during your bi-week or whatever people do. If you're unvaccinated, you have to test every day at the facility. You cannot leave town. Like, the differences are so great that I feel like more and more players are going to get vaccinated. that I feel like more and more players are going to get vaccinated. And if you have a group of, you know, 85 to 90 or more percent players who are vaccinated, almost all coaches and tier one personnel people are vaccinated.
Starting point is 01:13:02 So if you have everyone, almost everyone protected, there wasn't even a shutdown at the height of COVID. So I don't see any, I don't see anything like that coming. I mean, to me, the hope is, based on all the work the NFL and its doctors and the NFLPA doctors have done, it should look very, very normal in 2021. Okay, that's great news. Now, I will say to you, while you've been on a golf course living this fantasy life, in the real world, from what I've been told, because they've made their way into my timeline while I've been trying to live my fantasy life. In the real world, from what I've been told, because they've made their way into my timeline while I've been trying to live my fantasy life that I live,
Starting point is 01:13:28 I guess there are now booster shots being talked about for some of these vaccines. There's a different variant. There's all this other shit. I mean, who knows how this goes. We need football, though, Ian. So whenever you're mediating for the information from whoever, let them know we need football,
Starting point is 01:13:44 and we need them to beat COVID once again. Now, by the way, we beat COVID. Don't even tell me anything different. Ian, there's a couple stories bouncing around the NFL right now. One of them is the Washington football team. They have a massive decision that has to be made. Jason Wright has been on the show a couple times. Hopefully he'll be on again here in the next few days.
Starting point is 01:14:04 How is that whole thing going? Are they going to pick a new name soon, later? And what happens when everybody hates it? They know that's going to happen, right? They know that there is about 100% chance that everybody's going to hate it. And it's not till five, 10 years down the road. Rebranding is a massive decision, Ian. I mean, it's like every time a website changes its cover, everybody goes crazy because they don't know how it works. And then like two days later, you're like, OK, I guess this actually is a little bit easier. So, of course, everyone's going to hate it at the beginning. We learned today kind of an interesting tidbit, I thought. They're not going to be the warriors, which would sort of seem to be a little bit of a compromise, right?
Starting point is 01:14:42 It's not necessarily Native American or indigenous people, but if you want to see it that way, you could, theoretically. Might that sort of be like a halfway between the people who want to embrace the past of the Washington football team and the people who want to embrace the future? Hold on, hold on, hold on. It's not going to be Warriors. So Warrior is a potential Native American thing?
Starting point is 01:15:06 Is that what they're saying? They're saying it's a slippery slope. That was the word that Jason Wright used. And he doesn't want to kind of go down the path. No offense to the Native Americans. No offense to Native Americans. Absolutely love Native Americans. Okay, I have friends.
Starting point is 01:15:19 I've got to give the whole thing. But I don't know if even they feel as if they got a monopoly on the word Warriors, right? I don't think that is, but I could see where Jason potentially just wants to stay away. Is that kind of the thought? Yeah, and it's going to be, the name is going to be new. I mean, it really is going to be sort of a new beginning. The colors are going to be the same, but the logo is going to be different, and the name is going to be different. is going to be different and the name is going to be different.
Starting point is 01:15:45 It's kind of a way to, you know, I think for the organization, they've been battling a lot of self-created problems over the past year or so, and I think this is a great way to symbolically start completely new in a way that they have done so inside their building as well. Bury the football. Yeah. I mean, essentially, yes. Jason Wright's done a great job i can't wait
Starting point is 01:16:06 to see what name they go with what there are so many different because they could hire as many firms and focus groups as they want every name is going to have positives and i mean there is there is so much yes now i because i actually put in the dcfc name i wanted the dcfc name that ended up being a part of their poll on do you like this type of name or not type of name. And when we talked to Jason Wright about that when they put the poll out, because this was a massive conversation, this doesn't happen a lot. An NFL team is changing names unless there's an expansion. I mean, this is a big deal. This is a huge deal or whatever. so when they put that out I asked him are these the names that are potential he said maybe but mostly that poll they did with those names kind of gave them a direction on what people hated what they didn't hate and kind of whittle out some opportunities it's a big process let's talk about Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers while he's on a golf course said I'm going to enjoy the hell out of this week and then get back to working out and figure things out in a couple weeks at this point
Starting point is 01:17:05 we know aaron is in incredible shape yeah yeah he's in incredible shape he looked great at the match he threw a ball 150 yards into a pontoon guys uh gallop basically i mean ridiculous quill hops into this thing he's in great shape he said he's going to continue working out and then figure this out in the next couple weeks which he has to do because training camp is in a couple weeks what are you hearing are you do you know just as much as us at this point or is there actually continue working on them, figure this out in the next couple weeks, which he has to do because training camp is in a couple weeks. What are you hearing? Do you know just as much as us at this point, or is there actually information to be known? First of all, he is in good shape.
Starting point is 01:17:34 His arm is still great. He's a good golfer. I mean, he's like apparently a four-and-a-half handicap. That means he could go out and, you know, break par. So, like, that's pretty good. Yeah, I'd say. Yeah, yeah. Hey, Ian, he ain't scoring 91 like you on some shit
Starting point is 01:17:47 old horse. Aaron Rodgers. He's Aaron Rodgers. This is Aaron Rodgers. And by the way, he's saying back to the match. He said, I haven't been playing. I haven't been playing. He very clearly had been hitting balls. Which is awesome.
Starting point is 01:18:03 By the way, I'm all about that but yeah um as far as like kind of what's going on obviously nothing nothing imminent because training camp's not starting for another couple weeks i i thought his use of language aaron rogers is very very specific right like when he does interviews whether it's his kind of like thoughtful mode post game or whether he did the kenny main thing And he thanked and, you know, embraced everyone except Brian Gutekunst. But he did say, you know, Matt LaFleur is a great guy and a great guy. I mean, everything he does is very specific. For him to say the other day, like he did, I think it was kind of like right off the course,
Starting point is 01:18:39 spend the next couple of weeks and figure it out was interesting to me because it made me think there is something to figure out rather than I want out rather than we'll see where I'll be rather than find a new home. Like we'll figure it out. At least made me think he's leaning toward the, all right, there's clearly an option staying. That makes sense. So I don't, his use of language is very specific. And I kind of took note of that. And that's a big deal right there. The way you dive into the linguistics of it all.
Starting point is 01:19:08 That is true. Figure it out. Is he talking about, you know, maybe not just Gunter Gunz, by the way. And once again, I know less than everybody else. He and I are not like that. And I do not want to put myself in a position to say something compromising about him and then him not be happy with me or whatever. So I've kind of stayed out of this.
Starting point is 01:19:26 AJ's going to have to talk. He was supposed to be here today, but he's been with him yet again. And I wonder if Aaron, and we'll ask AJ tomorrow, he's supposed to be here today, we'll ask him, we thought he was going to be here today.
Starting point is 01:19:39 He's supposed to do whatever the hell he wants to do. But did AJ, Aaron, and people he hasn't been around in some time since the Kentucky Derby, have they sat down? Is there maybe a figure-it-out situation happening with all parties right now, both Aaron, friends, business, Packers? I mean, let's figure it out. It is a fascinating thing whenever you break down the fact
Starting point is 01:20:01 that he is incredibly intelligent and there is a reason behind everything he says. So that is, hey, that's got to feel pretty good. Ty, he's going to be a Packer maybe. Is AJ in there smoking cigars saying, we can figure this out, can't we? Is AJ in there? Come on, air your swords away. Is this what's going on, Ty?
Starting point is 01:20:17 I wonder. Well, I just, I assume at this point, because what options do they have? Either he comes back, they're not going to trade him, so it's either he comes back and plays. Do we know that for sure? I mean, I think so. I mean, I don't see any way that they trade. I really don't.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I couldn't even make sense of the compensation at all that would make an Aaron Rodgers trade make sense. I mean, it would just be hard for me to fathom. We did some fantasy booking on this show about the Niners and who they would have to give up, and Niners fans started coming up and saying, we ain't going to trade those people. It's like, that's what we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:20:51 It's going to be very difficult to make it worth it for the Packers, but if Aaron doesn't want to go, what happens? Who knows? Jordan Love, Mulder-Gate, has been absolutely balling out alongside Deshaun Watson and and justin fields uh have you heard anything out of that camp out of that workout and obviously we'll talk about jordan love if you want we'll talk about justin fields if you want go bears he's going to camp what today if he's going there early deshaun watson though mulligata still has him around everybody else
Starting point is 01:21:21 that seems like an interesting business decision if m Mulla Gaeta was under the thought process that something was potentially going to be terrible for Deshaun, right? Or, or am I reading too much? You know, it's sort of similar to like Aaron Rodgers, like nothing is by mistake, right? Like if you wanted to, it's social media, you know, so like, not that I would ever do this, but some people, when they take pictures on Instagram, Not that I would ever do this, but some people, when they take pictures on Instagram, make it look better than what it actually is. Like they improve their life on just social media. So people think that things are great when in reality they're not as great. Something that people do. So if you wanted to edit Deshaun Watson out of Instagram, you definitely could do it.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Clearly, he has been working out a lot. He's been throwing. He's been kind of getting more into the spotlight, I would say. You know, Mulegeda, his longtime agent who reps all of those guys, has had Deshaun around. I mean, that's a guy, you know, Deshaun is a guy they look up to. He's been training with them, and he has been, I would say, more active on social media. Maybe a sign that he's kind of ready to get back to work as well. A lot to get figured out in a short amount of time. But, you know, obviously his intention is to kind of play football and get right back into it. So I think my respect level for Mulegeta is so high that he would not have Deshaun around Justin Love, Jordan Love, or Justin Fields,
Starting point is 01:22:45 if there wasn't some positive, I don't know, that's me reading into it too deep. I don't know why you would want to associate with a potential 20-some. If it was, you know, I just think for me, that feels like business-wise, or maybe, Mulligata's like, hey, you're my guy until you're not. We'll figure it all out as we go.
Starting point is 01:23:05 I'm not 100% sure, but that is July 12th for you in the NFL. Yeah, right. What do you have, Connor? Yeah, Rapsheet, is there any word from the Chiefs as to what they're expecting with Frank Clark? And also, will they jump back into free agency to try and replace him if they do end up losing him for the season? I mean, first of all, with frank clark edge rush they have had melvin ingerman for a visit it was about a month or so ago so usually when you have a veteran like that who wants you know real money in for a visit and you don't sign that's a guy you revisit
Starting point is 01:23:37 kind of before camp you know if if frank clark is off the field for dealing with far far more serious issues like two gun charges including having having an Uzi in his gym bag. In California. Right. And it's, I mean, I haven't done all of the work, but it doesn't sound like there's a lot of wiggle room when it comes to the gun laws there. That's like Plex, right? That's like Plexico whenever he shot himself. He shot himself.
Starting point is 01:24:02 He was the victim of his own gunshot. And they were like, oh, that means you have a gun on you. Bang, you're going to jail. I mean, it is, there's some serious law. It's New York, obviously. California is different. But there are some serious gun laws in those states, right? Yeah. And, you know, it's not like they care whether or not Frank Clark can rush the passer or not. Which he can't. Which he can't. A law is a law so um i'm curious to see how quickly that goes i mean the charge is extremely serious um i don't know enough about what options he might have to avoid jail time but i do know that you know obviously this is something the nfl is looking
Starting point is 01:24:39 at looking at very seriously and um you know we'll see about his availability for the start of the season and beyond there's just at this point there's there's way more uncertainty than there is certainty for frank clark and for the kansas city chiefs off the field wise with frank clark and i said this whenever we found out about the uzi incident why does he feel like he has to have that is a number one question i think we should have as a like hey wire two different gun charges in a couple months period and he was strapped strapped why who how's this going that doesn't sound good though for chiefs or frank clark t's and p's we hope everything ends up all right and nobody ends up hurt what do you have time ian for a while there i think
Starting point is 01:25:20 the packers were talking about making davante adams the highest paid wide receiver and talking about doing a deal with him uh him re-signing do you think that's entirely dependent on whether or not rogers comes back yes uh i would be you know crazy things have happened so i hate saying like this but i would be really surprised if davante adams signs before aaron rogers like i i know he likes green. He's been pretty successful. He likes his quarterback, as I think everybody does. I know the Packers, Devonta Adams is definitely someone the Packers would like to extend. I haven't heard any traction there as far as I haven't heard any progress about a new deal for Devonta Adams, but I don't see him or maybe anyone. I don't see any Packers deal before Aaron Rodgers, which would make no sense.
Starting point is 01:26:09 So if Rodgers does, in fact, get a new contract that kind of makes this situation salvageable and something they can deal with, then they look to their next, who would be Devonta Adams, like, all right, we got your quarterback. Now let's really talk, and we'll see if they can do it kind of before the start of the season. Although the Packers do deals at all times. They did Bakhtiari like middle of the season last year, so if they don't get it done before the season, I'm sure they'll continue talking because he will be deserving of every penny that he gets. Have they thought about a potential extension or raise for Takatari after what he did for the Milwaukee Bucks and guaranteeing a non-sweep in the finals of the Bucks in Milwaukee last night
Starting point is 01:26:51 alongside old Dana Beers and Mr. Takatari on the Jumbotron? Have the Packers thought about maybe giving him a life-term deal? I mean, they gave him so much money. Can I just tell you? At that game? Let's fucking go. So good. Bakhtiari's the greatest.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Like, he really is. You know, being a star offensive lineman is awesome because you really, once you're sort of set for life and you know that, like, there's nobody better, you can just do whatever you want. Like, wouldn't we all like to do that? Yeah. Right? Yeah, but, Ian, you can't chug a beer let alone two
Starting point is 01:27:26 of them can you do what crazy carl talk tar is doing right here then they win no is that a coincidence by 20 right by 20 by the way ian you you can't chug a beer i can i can chug a beer i can't like I can't do the thing where you just open your throat and dump it down. It takes me like a little bit, but I can chug one. Now, I will say this. I can get the liquid down. I've been nothing but honest with you. I always will be.
Starting point is 01:27:57 If my wife and I had a beer chugging contest, it would be close. I don't doubt that. You're Ian Rappaport, dude. Nobody thinks to themselves, you know what? Ian's wife can't out-chug him. You know what I mean? What? Yeah, you didn't deserve that, but I mean, it's real.
Starting point is 01:28:14 I think if I was asked. You're not wrong. I think if I was presented the question, let's say it was the college bowl and Peyton was reading it with Cooper there. And the question is, who can chug a beer faster, Ian Rappaport or Ian Rappaport's wife? I would immediately say Ian Rappaport's wife. Yes, she'd dust him. Everybody would say that.
Starting point is 01:28:30 It would be B. It would be close. She wouldn't dust me. It would be close. So she'd win. My daughter. She's probably not going OB on 18 either. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now live from his vacation,
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