The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 452 - Kris Moutinho, Ian Rapoport, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: July 15, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about the few things going on in the sports world, including The Open Championship, the Richard Sherman situation, the franchise tag deadline in the NFL, and gam...e 4 of the NBA Finals. Joining the program fresh off an incredible performance against Suga Sean O'Malley and potentially possessing the strongest chin on the face of the earth, Kris Moutinho joins the show to chat about the last few weeks, his fighting style, how he took so many punches from Suga Sean, if he thinks Herb Dean should've stopped the fight, what's next, if he signed a UFC contract, and much more (21:24-38:50). Later, joining Pat and AJ Hawk is Ian Rapoport to chat about everything going on around the NFL including the deadline for the franchise tag and which guys Rap Sheet thinks will be signed, if he's hearing anything more about Aaron Rodgers, and what key points we should be looking at over the course of the next few weeks (1:02:21-1:15:02). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up everybody? It is Thursday, July 15th, and you are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0. Pat just hopped on a plane to head down to Houston because tomorrow night on Fox, Smackdown is live! Today's a good one. Chris Moutinho might be the toughest guy on the face of the earth. toughest guy on the face of the earth. He stops by after his fight at UFC 264 with Sugar Sean O'Malley. Ian Rappaport stops by to chat about everything going on in the NFL and AJ Hawk makes his third straight appearance after taking three weeks off. We appreciate you guys for listening. Let's get into it. We're not 100% sure why you listen or watch every single day, but we are very thankful for it. And every single day when we walk into this studio, we say, you know what? We're going to put the best fucking show out that has ever existed.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Of all time. Hell yeah. That has ever existed. We're not just talking for the shows that we have done. We're talking about in the history of just shows. Best one. What type of shows? You're talking like American Gladiators? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I'm talking just things that were watched by humans. We do not have enough time in this three-hour slot on SiriusXM to get into that and just list off a bunch of shows. But every time we walk in here, we go, you know what? Let's have the best show in the history of fucking shows. And today we
Starting point is 00:01:25 have that attitude today we got chris mutinyo okay milford massachusetts greatest jaw that's right the paint factory worker who took a fight with sugar sean o'malley friend of the show with a couple days notice or whatever and ate 177 punches to the face. This is what he... Low flying. Low flying. What's going on? I think Moutinho's here. Air drop? Military exercise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Checking out right now. Is that unidentified aerial phenomenon? On the roof? Sorry about that. I don't know if you can hear this or not. It might be a Chinese spy plane. A plane, maybe.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Could have been from anywhere. The spies could have been from anywhere at this point. But the drop in there, it felt like a plane was actually helicopter landing on top of the studio for their first second. A little bit of a rattle there. So shout out to whatever plane that was. And I completely forgot what we were talking about. Chris Mutino. Chris Mutino. Mutino.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Yeah, too far back. Mutino, though, we're going to get a chance to chat with him. Is he altered at all brain-wise after what happened to him? He went to the hospital, which I think happens in a lot of fight situations. If there has been any damage, they take him to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I don't know if that's like a, let's just go get this whole thing checked. But after you eat 177 punches, and Herb Dean has to stop that thing instead of you getting knocked out, which I think he got knocked out one time. We'll ask him about it. But I'm very impressed with a human that has this capability. Absolutely. You know, there's people that can do a lot of things. Joey Jaws Chestnut, he can eat 76 hot
Starting point is 00:03:08 dogs in 10 minutes and nobody else can do it. It's fascinating to watch. You know Shohei Ohtani? Of course. Shohei Ohtani can throw a baseball 100 miles an hour. He can hit a baseball 100 miles an hour. And he can do whatever the hell he wants. That is something I would like to watch because that's a once.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I don't know how many humans can sit there and eat 177 punches. So much so that the person you fought against who has knockout power and has knocked out basically everybody he has fought in a big spotlight. You hurt his hand so much that he has to go on a medical. Yeah. UFC's like until you figure out your hands a little bit. What's wrong? You just punch a skull 177 times. I can't wait to chat with him, see what his life is like.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I have no idea what the future looks like for Chris Moutinho. I wonder if he does. I just know that he woke up on Monday morning after eating all this. Hey, he was at jiu-jitsu class. That's right. Not missing a thing. He was teaching. He was training.
Starting point is 00:04:00 He got $75,000 bonus because the performance he put on out there with Sugar Sean, who was shaking him and crossing him, and did beat the hell out of him. I mean, was just pounding his face like drums there for a while. He got $75,000 for that. If not, he would have got $18,000 for that fight. And he's just living his life right now. I wonder if he's going back to the pain factory, what's going on.
Starting point is 00:04:20 We get a chance to chat with him. Also, Ian Rappaport will join us in the second hour. He has become our go-to insider guy. 100%. He really has, hasn't he? Big fan of Rapshie. I like Rapshie, too. Love the guy.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Kind of gives and takes a little bit. Seems like he does have a pretty good feel for what's going on. Because at this point, the insider game, there is, you know, Shefty and Rapp are always going to be, you know, the top dogs. Of course. In the football world. I mean, that's how it's going to go. But there are so many.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Chris Mortensen is still an insider game. Glazer. Glazer is kind of like. He's also in that rarefied air. Well, we're talking day-to-day, though. True. Okay, we're talking day-to-day. Glazer is a season.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Hey, something massive comes. He's lived the day-to-day for so long. He doesn't do it anymore. He's, you know, Fox NFL Sunday. Hashtag J J-New he just chooses not to break a lot of news but we're talking day-to-day it's it's kind of you know Shefty and Rapp and then Field and Pellicero and Mortensen will dabble in the day-to-day but we're getting our news only from a couple different people so it's interesting that the Richard Sherman stuff all came from Schefter. Yesterday we asked Schrags about it, who also I think is a little bit of an insider,
Starting point is 00:05:29 but he's mostly friends with people. I don't know if he wants to dabble in the inside game going forward. I think he's found his lane as like the maybe inside information, but pundit, fun, opinion, I talk to, that type of thing. But the Schefter-Sherman situation, that's the only person we got any information yesterday it was rolling out by the way yeah in bunches as the day was unfolding I think everybody started getting more and more sad for the situation and potentially what's going on
Starting point is 00:05:53 with Richard Sherman not only obviously in this event but behind closed doors in general if you're drinking allegedly now two different bottles a bottle of vodka and Hennessy I am unless it's just somebody has talked to you and is celebrating something awesome, you're trying to cover for something, right? I mean, you're trying to do something. So crazy, scary situation, but only came out from Schefter. So what has Rappaport's people said to him? What are some other sides of the story?
Starting point is 00:06:18 Also, there's franchise tag deadlines that are happening. So if nobody was able to negotiate an extension on their contract by today or tomorrow i don't know which day it is i should know that this happened to me one time you're automatically locked into the franchise tag if you signed it we'll talk to him about that did anybody ever really have any conversations because there was once the franchise tag was signed this year we didn't hear any conversation not no. No one has gotten a deal who has. Allen Robinson, Chris Godwin, Cam Robinson, the left tackle in Jacksonville, no one's gotten one.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And, by the way, a lot of people who were free agents, they signed basic franchise tag deals anyways. A lot of one-year deals, guaranteed money deals, which is what a franchise tag is. So this year, the franchise tag isn't as hated or as dramatic, you know, with some controversy as other years because a lot of people were signing one-year deals because of what happened with the salary cap. So kind of not that big of a story, but we can talk about who got the franchise tag, who didn't. Godwin is one person that's being talked about down there in Tampa. And the statement came out from Field Yates, I believe, or no, Rappaport.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Sorry about that. Rappaport said they will work to keep him long-term this coming offseason as they did this past offseason. So that message is coming directly from the Buccaneers. That's not Godwin's people. That's the Buccaneers people releasing a statement through Ian Rappaport going, hey, we want him back. We're not happy that we didn't come to a long-term deal.
Starting point is 00:07:43 It's just the way it is. We need you to make sure everybody knows that this is a good thing. We're not happy that we didn't come to a long-term deal. It's just the way it is. We need you to make sure everybody knows that this is a good thing. We're okay. We still want him back. Because if they don't say anything and they're potentially like, oh, Godwin's on franchise tagging and Godwin's people say, like, wanted a long-term deal, the narrative automatically goes that, oh, is there a little bit of a –
Starting point is 00:07:59 I don't want him anymore. Oh, is there a little bit of a – So just as small as that little lead that they left with Ian, it's like a positive, like, hey, they would still like to make this work next year whenever the salary cap isn't completely fucked because COVID is hopefully not. I mean.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Man, you saw my brain. I literally went. Yeah, you were right there. It was like the loading thing. That was literally what you saw my brain go all the way to about right here. 97. Stop. Oh, shit. Dan White.
Starting point is 00:08:33 A lot of other people, too. Hey, there's people tweeting. There's a lot of people that were tweeting about some statistics up in your neck of the woods up there in New England, I guess. There's some statistics coming out. Whatever. We beat COVID. Fuck it. This ain't going to happen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:46 This might be a freezing cold day, but I am not going to go back on us celebrating the potential life coming back. Did you see Milwaukee last night? Oh, man. It was rocking. Oh, my God. It was rocking. Anyways, the salary cap going forward is going to be much different, I think, than it was
Starting point is 00:09:01 this year, especially with the new digital streaming deals that are going to roll in and with the deals that are currently in place potentially being negotiated out of so i think this although they signed a what 10 year 110 billion dollar deal which is real that's not a fake number 10 year the nfl signed a 10 year 110 billion dollar uh right negotiation on content, basically. Right, yeah, yeah. But all of those contracts, I think, are potentially renegotiable if another, say, Apple wants to get in or somebody else wants to get in because Fox is already negotiating with Amazon
Starting point is 00:09:35 to give them another year in advance to get out of that contract earlier. So I think there's going to be so much money pouring in that this year a lot of people are thinking, okay, the salary cap's going to be much different next year yeah projections are projections but what happens whenever amazon has an incredible year and wants to get in and dump even more money we want even more money we want this like that salary cap could very much grow and with all the now chris ballard told us yesterday chris ballard told us yesterday that somebody's gonna at some point you're gonna have to pay the buy piper right at some point you're going to have to pay the Pipe Viper.
Starting point is 00:10:05 At some point you're going to have to do it. That's what Chris said. You've got to be smart. I don't know. Maybe that's not the way it is anymore. I didn't want to press him on it because he knows a lot more about it than I do. But there's people doing magic down there. We'll talk to Rappaport about how the franchise tag plays into all of that
Starting point is 00:10:19 and any other news he's potentially hearing about. At Boston Conner, the Open just teed off this morning. Your thoughts? I mean, you know, after the hole it's coming home for the last month and a half, I figured I'm going to put my money on a couple English guys. England needs a win. I took Tommy Fleetwood. He eagled on six.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Bruce told me. So we're rolling right now. Ian Poulter was brought up yesterday. I took him. He's plus two. He probably won't make the cut. Oh, he stinks. He doesn't turn out stinking, of course. No, he's funny. I like him. Yeah, he's a great guy. He's plus two. He probably won't make the cut. Oh, he stinks. He does turn out stinking, of course.
Starting point is 00:10:46 No, he's funny. I like him. Yeah, he's a great guy. He's got the style. Maybe he partied a little too hard with the whole England soccer team. Ian Poulter stinks. Yeah. I like Ian Poulter.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I've seen him hit a seven iron through his Lamborghini window. That's right. And that's what sold me on it. I was like, oh, okay. In one window, at the other, hopped back in the car, drove it off. See ya. Drove in, hit through, drove off. I'm like, all right, I like that guy.
Starting point is 00:11:13 But you're saying he stinks at actual golf. What's this all about? I mean, he's way better than I will ever be. I'm just saying at the moment he's not looking good. And, of course, Louis Oosterhoosen is back in the front, and he's the top dog now. What's his name? Louis Oosterhoosen. It's Woost and right woos days and you stays in hey well he's in there doing it don't be so ignorant to these names by the way no no hey that's i never said that that's one of those that's not a uh that's not an original
Starting point is 00:11:40 i mean oh you say you stole from somebody oh yeah the sports pope it's gospel you're allowed to read you're allowed to recite the bible in the sports game if you have to i mean if if if francesa is the sports pope which which he is and we are in sports talk boom he is basically the book writer right yeah tell you tell Tell you Jay's point. He is the word. So you're allowed to just quote him without giving him credit whenever on the microphone? What do you mean? I just did.
Starting point is 00:12:13 What are you talking about? Yeah, but only because we pressed you about it a little. No, no. I mean me. Ty was about to go, yeah, yeah, fucking rip his shit. No, Ty hit the other Louie Oosterhoosen ways he's pronounced it. But Frances is the best, by the way. He's the best.
Starting point is 00:12:26 He's the king. But back to Ian Poulter. You want him to win over Phil? I mean, Phil's on the course right now. So why don't you say, yeah, that's cool. He can hit it through the Lamborghini. But guess what he's not doing? He's getting out of the pot bunkers like Phil is.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It might have been a Ferrari, by the way. John Rahm, I saw, have a little bit of a battle with the pot bunker early. I think he did a little two-for-one action in there. They will attack you. And Phil's incredibly soft hands are vital for the Open. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is what you need it for. The bombers aren't going to perform well because the Brits' style of golf is a miserable one.
Starting point is 00:13:00 That's right. Hey, listen, if you don't hit the fairway, your life's miserable. Hey, this once four-hour round, guess what? Seven. Boom. That's what the Brits golf is like. Now, I have not golfed over there personally, so maybe one day when I get a chance to go golf over there,
Starting point is 00:13:14 I'll change my thoughts. But watching them golf out there, it's like they want to punish you if you hit bad shots. I respect it. I appreciate it. But there is zero chance I would golf over there if that's how every single course was. I would not be able to do it.
Starting point is 00:13:26 No, you cannot hit it in the fescue. You cannot hit it in the long grass. I mean, you get in there, especially for an average golfer. Like you said, I mean, you're playing 14, 16-hour round. If you're not hitting it right down the fairway every single time. I mean, you're maybe cracking 150, 200. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Losing at least like two boxes of balls. Phil Mickelson ain't doing that, though. Phil Mickelson's got hands. Phil Mickelson, is he coming on the show? Yeah, I thought that was happening next week. I don't know. Well, I was going to say, if he could come on the show with the Claret Jug. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And also his PGA Championship. Boom. And the silver medal from the match. Did they get those that they immediately took off like the English did whenever they lost that Euros? That was wild to me, by the way. Did you see that soccer? I mean, I guess I don't.
Starting point is 00:14:19 That legitimately could have been my first ever medal ceremony in soccer that I've watched. Yeah, watching it through. You know, just watching the entire yeah second place getting those medals and then the immediate takeoff of it while still on tv while the person who's handing you the medals is miserable too yeah sorry sorry sorry well why do they even do it why do they even give them i don't know what the big thing is it's like like, I guess it's cool to just, you know, this ain't good enough. I get it. Yeah, I mean, but they're not even lying to touch their shoulders.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I mean, that thing is quickly up. Yeah, the guy doesn't even get to put it on. A lot of people just grab the medal as soon as they get it and just take it right off. And Gumpy will run in here to give us a little bit more information. Hopefully, if he's not diving too deep into FanDuel Sportsbook right now, trying to find some winners for Hammered Down, which airs at 4 o'clock Eastern, basically, roughly. could be in that time slot at youtube.com forward slash hammered down every day and gives out winners on tops of winners that but they work they actually dive into this
Starting point is 00:15:12 thing so they normally join us for the second hour i'm calling gumpy in now gumpy if if you could explain to us a little bit here because we got to this obviously talking about the match with phil mickelson and him potentially getting a silver silver medal and now we're right back to the europe's gumpy that silver medal getting taken right off of the head as soon as it touched the thing and i said oh this is awesome is you and everybody attacked me like oh well this is your first medal ceremony loser it's like i guess what are we even talking about who's the loser who watches this the um on a regular basis i didn't i didn't say that i didn't say that i didn't mean it it was just something i Yes. What are we even talking about? Who's the loser who watches this on a regular basis? I didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I didn't say that. I didn't mean it. It was just something I could have shot back with to bury said person like Mahomes did to a guy in the crowd. This is just a burial. And then Herbert got a shot there. But that happens all the time. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And why do they still do it then? Tale is old as time. It's tradition. You have to do it. Even when I played growing up, we did the exact same thing. You went through it, and you had to watch, and it was just all part of the whole thing. Man, I don't remember ever getting second place.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Hey-oh! No, I'm joking. No, no, I'm joking. We came in second a lot. I don't remember doing that. I think we were more of a trophy town. I think we were a big trophy. I was going to say, I don't remember getting it.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I mean, it was trophy always. I don't remember the medals very often. Oh, getting it. I mean, it was trophy always. I don't remember the medals very often. Oh, really? Because for us, it was the same. It was the whole medal thing, and you went. They used to have it like it was, you know how they walk up the stairs? Like even when we had tournaments, you went, and there was like a walk into the bleachers kind of, and they did the whole medal thing.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Oh, that's awesome. Maybe we did that. I don't remember. But yeah, that's just the uh sterling did get it off sterling didn't by the way he kept his on he kept it on yeah because i thought to myself after every person did it and seeing it for the first time i was a little disrespect i feel like a little bit a little bit disrespectful to the europe's by the way you getting second in europe you might as well fucking just throw it in the trash it's like this tournament's worth nothing
Starting point is 00:17:01 if you're the first or your absolute last that was my first initial thoughts while I'm watching it. And I was like, oh, second's not good enough. Okay, got it, got it, got it. And then Sterling kept his on, and I was like, okay, there's a guy. Gumby talks about him a lot. He must be like an OG on this team. He must be a veteran on this team. He was good on this team.
Starting point is 00:17:19 He's holding on to it, so maybe he isn't. I'm kind of torn on it. As somebody who absolutely hates it if they're going to continue to do it i yeah i would probably take it off probably i mean just after the whole it's at home too yeah but why why do they even do it is it like the handshake line in hockey yeah you know you have to beat the piss out of someone you have to do it it's part of it they do it in champions league all of it let's go shake that hug. Yeah. Did you see the coach for the Lightning was mic'd up? And for the...
Starting point is 00:17:49 Handshake? For the handshake with the Canadians. Oh, yeah, I saw some of that, yeah. The habitants. I wonder how the other coach feels or how the players feel. Because he was, like, complimenting the players. You know, you got a great future. The young guy, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah, you got a bright future. You're really good or whatever. And it's like, they're obviously very nice to each other. But was there ever a moment where that guy, the player thought to himself hey fuck off yeah i see i don't care what you think is there ever a thought of that i don't know that's my first thought when this guy was talking to me i just lost stanley cup or whatever i'd be like hey pal get the fuck out of here yeah is that a nick could tell me this nick that coach highly respected down there for the lightning? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:25 He hasn't been in the league a long time, but in the short amount of time he has been, he's gained a lot of respect because they win. Yeah, and he's won, I mean, two Stanley Cups. But I like that. This would almost be – and how about the Canadiens coach? He was an interim coach. They fired their coach earlier in the season.
Starting point is 00:18:40 So that's why he was like – he came in and was like, hey, listen. You guys are hell of a run. I did everything I could. If I was there for you guys, if I was coaching your team, you guys probably win a little bit more. They made it to the finals. They made it with an interim head coach. Yeah, he just got a new three-year deal now after that run they were on.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I was about to say, so he's now the head coach, I would assume. Yeah. We did that, didn't we, at the Penguins? We brought in a guy. He went on a run. Yeah, and then everybody tries to run him out of town, and the next time we saw him lose. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Did he win the Stanley Cup when he came in or not? Sully? Yeah. Yeah, first year. Wow. He came up from the baby pens, I think, right? Yep. He came in halfway through the year.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Same thing with Dan Bilesma, Disco Dan in 09. Disco Dan. Hey, Disco Dan was all right. Hey, Disco Dan, pretty good time, Bilesma. He had that same look. Yenzer's had enough of him, ran his ass. He got real cocky real quick, and then he kind of ran dry. And then old Sully came up for the baby pens, man.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I mean, are you kidding me right now? Am I piecing together coaching trees in the hockey world? In NHL. I would like a little bit more respect in the hockey conversation, please. You're the aficionado. I mean, we all know. Yeah, yeah. We know.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I pulled that out of my ass so bad. But I remember because he brought a goalie up from the Baby Pens that he was comfortable with or something like that. Matt Murray. There we go. How about that? And then he ran math out of town. And then we ran Murray out of town. And Sully's still around.
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Starting point is 00:21:28 Not 100% sure if he still lives there. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. We're fixing something, sorry. Foxy did a fool. Double thumbs down? Oh, Jesus. It ended up quick pointing and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Oh, Lord. It was quite in. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. On Saturday night, this man took 177 punches to the face and did not get knocked out. He was 30 seconds away from finishing a fight that nobody thought he would be able to finish just 30 to 40 seconds into the fight.
Starting point is 00:21:58 One of the toughest humans to ever be created or grace this earth from Milford. Geez, I almost got it wrong can't do that because i if i know anything about milford massachusetts they will come and beat the shit out of me big old job not just this guy ladies and gentlemen chris mutine how are you dude i'm good man how are you how how can i ask you just how you have you always just been the toughest dude of all time it looked like you were on like autopilot like i were you with it the entire time there there
Starting point is 00:22:31 was never any days or anything that's unbelievable you might have a world record for toughness uh according to my friends i'm a pansy so who knows who knows man i it is what it is it's another day in the office and I'm just happy you all enjoyed the fight we absolutely loved it fight of the night obviously congratulations on that especially taking the fight late I think the guy you were fighting Sean he's a good
Starting point is 00:22:56 friend of our show he wants to put on a show it wants to be a performance without you I don't know if that performance is anywhere near what it could have been because he unloaded and he said to us yesterday that every time he was he was punching you in the face you would stand back up get in his mouth and talk shit to him like call him like a bitch and everything like that is that just how you are all the time is that because milford
Starting point is 00:23:19 massachusetts this is just kind of how life is yeah Yeah. I don't know where you're from, man, but we're from, we're from Massachusetts, bro. And you know, you know, you know how we are. If you're from any, any come, come out here, see these people. This is how we are, man. Like we, we talk shit. We love this. We love that. We love to get in each other's face. And, uh, it's just what I'm used to, man. It's what I'm used to at the gym when my boys and, uh, it was just, we brought, he, he brought it to that level so i had i had to keep going oh it's awesome we're from pittsburgh pretty similar place i believe there's a lot of shit talking i think that's why we respect and appreciate it uh we're talking to chris mutino am i pronouncing that right yeah that's close enough that's close enough no no i want to make it right because i know that if we were to fight even if i was uh to train and
Starting point is 00:24:03 potentially get good at something you would still beat the hell out of me and run right through everything. How is it pronounced? It's Moutinho. One more? Moutinho. Moutinho. Yeah. Chris Moutinho. Sorry about that. I got it wrong
Starting point is 00:24:19 early. Thank you for joining us. So we saw the pictures of you training on Monday morning after that whole thing. You went to the hospital after the fight. What happened post-fight after everything we saw? To that picture we saw Monday morning of you back in training.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I didn't want to go to the hospital. It was like a mandatory thing. I had to go to get checked out and just make sure I didn't have any brain bleeding. It was just like a precautionary check. I was good. My brain was good. I just went.
Starting point is 00:24:51 As soon as I got home, I was like, we got to get going for the next one. So I'm just ready to go now. I'm going to be in the gym all week and all next week. And we're going to get ourselves ready for the next one. What did the doctor say? Nothing wrong? Nothing, man.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I'm good. I'm clean, man. He don't hit that hard. Have you ever had to get me out? So that's, that's the way it is. Have you ever been knocked out?
Starting point is 00:25:15 Yeah, I've been knocked out before. I've been knocked out before, but it was never been never on my feet. You know what I mean? If you're, if I'm on my feet, you never, you're not going to drop me,
Starting point is 00:25:21 man. That's just the way I feel. That's the way I believe. I believe in myself fully to, to the extent man you gotta hit me you gotta really hit me to put me down yeah well it was very evident on saturday night leading off the second biggest ufc pay-per-view in history 1.8 million buys chris mutinyu out of milford massachusetts how'd you get into fight game? You're a wrestler. I see now, like, I don't want to stereotype, but anytime you see the cauliflower, you immediately think to
Starting point is 00:25:51 yourself, okay, this guy's high school experience was much different than mine. He was cutting weight. He was beating people up. He was wrestling. He was doing that whole thing. Is that how you got into it? And how did you find mixed martial arts? Yeah, I was a very cliched it, uh, like that, man. I wrestled ined like that, man. I wrestled in high school. And after high school, you're just drinking too much. You don't really have anything to do. You want to compete again. I wasn't gifted with athleticism, so I couldn't play football, baseball, anything like that.
Starting point is 00:26:17 So I found a gym open in my hometown, man, by a UFC fighter. His name is George Rivera. Got me into the sport and built me up and showed me what I needed to do to get to these levels in this sport. From there on, I was stuck, man. I was a gym rat from there on, man. I've been in all different gyms all across the country and all over the world. I'm just excited and blessed to be finally here. Your style is just to put pressure on people at all times?
Starting point is 00:26:45 Is that your style in every single fight? Is that what we should expect whenever we see you there? I mean, it was bang, pow, poom, poom, poom. You're a bitch. You just bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Fuck you. There was three to four different times we were certain there was no way this human was going to remain standing.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I mean, we all watched it together. It was a late night it was amazing it was is that your style are you a guy who likes to get hit does get hit not scared to get hit and it's just always going to put pressure and take risks like what is your your full style yeah for sure man i like to push the pace i like them i like to make it a fight i like to be in your chest and uh i'm used to being in there with bigger dudes than Sean. You know what I mean? My training partners most of my life growing up were heavyweights and 85ers and middleweights. When you get hit by them, man, the little guys don't feel the same.
Starting point is 00:27:37 You know what I mean? So it's just what I'm used to, man. I'm used to being in your face and being in your chest. If I got to take a shot to give a shot, I'll do it. And it usually pays off this time i kind of turned into a hockey fight and it didn't go my way you know what i mean this is this is what this is what happens sometimes man sometimes you got to take those ass whoopings and uh it's something i'm i'm very i'm very comfortable doing man i'm i'm i'm okay with winning and losing as long as i i know i i put a good account for myself well i to let you know, Chris, it doesn't matter if you win or lose for all of us as fans.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Anybody that gets in there is a badass, obviously. So big thank you for even stepping in there and taking the fight on late notice. I think after talking to you and watching you fight, there was zero chance of you turning that down, right? You were just waiting and waiting and waiting for that moment. Or how did the fight come about? Was it, was there any other plans you had? Were you training for a fight already? Yeah, actually, I was told to be fighting in August down in Mississippi for CFFC. And it kind of like came as like, maybe we'll get a shot. Like he's, his opponent pulled out. My manager was like, it's a long shot, man. We'll just throw your name in there and see what happens. And then literally like two days later i was getting dms from random people telling me i'm
Starting point is 00:28:48 gonna get knocked out i'm gonna get beat up i'm gonna die all this stuff and stuff and i i didn't even get i didn't even get the answer yet three seconds after that my manager hit me up and he was like yo you better make weight man this is your chance it's your opportunity and uh let let let the cards fall where they may you know what i mean hey the die thing's a big deal huh especially in the fight game because that's potential like that has probably happened before in cages and stuff like yes is it or is it not because sean said yesterday which was fascinating he said some people say connor crossed the line who who's deciding where the line is though and especially in the fight game is the die thing
Starting point is 00:29:25 because you mentioned it there and since it's become something with the way the dustin and uh connor thing happened is that uh is that one of those unwritten rules in the fight game or is it just no holds barred i think every i think every clown says oh we're putting our life on the line we're putting our life on the line there's it's really not man there's there's there's people going to war every day really putting their life on the line we're putting our life online there's it's really not man there's there's there's people going to war every day really putting their life on the line so i i find it pretty disrespectful when when you when this is something we do for fun i do this for fun i go to the gym every day i get punched in the face for fun if i really if i really thought my life was on the line man there's a ref in there to tell me when to stop you obviously sorry he
Starting point is 00:30:03 stopped it when he thought my life was on the line and i didn't think my life was on the line you know what i mean so there's somebody in there there's there's always things very rarely does that ever happen man it happens but very very rarely so i don't know we do we people do more dangerous things just and not get paid for it man so i don't i don't i don't see that but hey teach his own yeah you're also said earlier i'm from milford massachusetts all right we say some terrible shit that's just what we do you were working in a paint factory is that is that real that was your full-time job and then you would just go train and then fight and then back to the paint factory and what did you do in the paint factory you were just you're all gassed up or gas masked up or you're just eating those things eating those fumes on a daily basis yeah we we eating those fumes
Starting point is 00:30:49 70 80 hours a week man working in a working a line making them filling paint cans then trying to go train afterwards we're training seven eight days a week you know what i mean seven days a week just working man and this is that's what my life was for the last six, seven years. You know what I mean? And then, and then literally a month before this fight, I decided I'm going to commit my whole life to this. I'm going to quit my job. I can't do this no more. I'm going to train, train, train. I'm going to start my own business. I'm going to start personal training and all that stuff. Literally a month after that, I'm in the UFC and enjoying my life, doing what I love to do. And the only thing I've ever loved to do, I've never loved anything else.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I love getting smacked across my face, and I love smacking other humans across their face and seeing whose brain pops out of their head first. Man, this is what I love to do, and this is what I'm going to do until my body can't do it no more. Let's go. Yeah! That's an American dream story right there, Chris.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Legit. Like, that is so cool to hear. Connor, we have a Massachusetts stooge here, too. And as soon as he saw you, because we didn't, I mean, we're a sports show, but we're the dumbest of all time. We didn't do enough research. We knew Sean was fighting somebody. We knew it was something last minute.
Starting point is 00:32:03 As soon as it popped up that you were from Milford, Massachusetts, our Massachusetts dudes went, oh, no, hey, he's got a Milford jaw. He literally said that as soon as it said your name and where you were from. And then as we were watching it, it was like fucking Connor. Scouting fighters of the year here. What do you have, Connor? Yeah, Chris, I saw you mentioned that you were bummed that Herb Dean stopped the fight and you wanted to go out on your shield, as
Starting point is 00:32:28 you put it. Do you have a conversation with the refs like, hey, I got the greatest jaw on the planet, so you don't have to stop this. If I'm knocked out, you'll know, but don't worry, I won't be. Or do you just kind of hope that he knows that? He should know that, man. I've seen that dude let other guys go
Starting point is 00:32:43 in a lot worse situations. You know what I mean? 177 punches to the face. A lot worse than that, man. You can go watch. You can go watch the fights. Go watch my boy Calvin versus Max Holloway. Go watch it. He looked like he was going to fucking die in that fight
Starting point is 00:32:59 and he let him keep going. Rory McDonald versus Robbie Lawler where Rory's face and nose is smashed into his brain. And he looks like he's going to die. And he let that fight keep going until he couldn't go anymore. So this is what I'm saying, man. I'll take mine.
Starting point is 00:33:18 If I go out on my own, it's my choice. Let me go out on my own. And that's just the way I feel about it. But, hey, he made his decision. He made my choice. Let me go out on my own. And that's just the way I feel about it. But hey, he made his decision. He made his choice. And I was going to lose that fight regardless. So it doesn't really matter to me. A loss is a loss to me.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And it's going to hurt regardless. Okay. So I think we were all incredibly impressed. And if you would have, I think our initial response, even as sugar friends and fans, we were like, oh, let the guy finish at least. Let this thing go. I think everybody's immediate reaction was, and then me being somebody who is outside,
Starting point is 00:33:52 I watch the pay-per-views. I don't know enough about the weeds of the MMA world. I started getting people and seeing people's tweets that were like, and then I heard Sean say, that's a lot of head damage that just happened. It is something where that's a fine balance in your sport that doesn't have to happen anywhere else and I appreciate the fact you're like yeah it's just kind of the way it is or whatever um what a fucking show there when you see that Herb Dean's going to be the ref so in our sport in football the team not that it matters for my position but the team knew the refs that were going to be in and it was like okay this is
Starting point is 00:34:24 a holding penalty ref crew here they look for this pass interference there's a potential big plays because they call this you just rattled off those did you know those fights going in with him being the ref and knew like okay this is potentially going to be one where as long as i can withstand it this is going to go all 15 minutes or is this afterwards when you're pissed off about him stopping it you learn about the ego this didn't have this didn't happen is this pre-research or is this afterwards that you're kind of pissed off that he stopped it it's a it's a little bit of both you know what i mean like i know herb everybody knows herb he's like the best ref in uh in in the ufc everybody loves herb and i I still have nothing bad to say about him, man. He still seems like a
Starting point is 00:35:06 really good dude. He's a great human being. He made his choice. That's just what it is. You know what I mean? I've seen it too many times, man. I've seen it too many times. I've seen too many fighters get their shot. I've seen too many fighters get to go out on their sword, get to go out
Starting point is 00:35:22 on their shield. I just feel like I should have got that, man. And look at me now. I'm still training. I'm in the gym. The other guy's laid up for six months. I don't know what to tell you, man. I took 200 punches.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I'm good, man. I'm good. Somebody else is fucked up, though. It's not me. It's so funny that, you know, people say in fighting, you got your hands are your weapons and your feet are your weapons. And, you know, your your face is an actual weapon. Oh, yeah. It broke hands.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah. Your face is a weapon. It's amazing to watch. Go ahead, Ty. Chris, I assume when you sign like the fight, when you're a fill in like that, it's only a one fight deal. Have you talked to Dana White at all about like, is your next fight going to be in the octagon? You just alluded to it. Do you have any type of medical suspension or are you looking to get back in there
Starting point is 00:36:08 you know as soon as possible I got a 60 day suspension so I got a 60 day just for my own safety make sure I don't get any more brain damage just because but I got a four fight deal with the UFC
Starting point is 00:36:23 I don't know if I'm supposed to say that. Come on. But I got a four-fight deal even when I signed that contract. So I was always going to get another shot back in the UFC. And I'm just excited, man, because I think it was because of how big the fight was and taking it against such a tough opponent. Like, Sean is a really tough opponent. He's really good.
Starting point is 00:36:44 He's really talented. High-level catch. So, I was always going to get another fight in the UFC. It's just now I got to make them count, man, because, like, I don't care what it is, how great everybody's, how much smoke everybody's blowing up my ass, man. It's still a loss, a loss of a loss,
Starting point is 00:37:01 and you can't do too many of those, even if they're great fights. Yeah, well, I mean, Chris, I don't recommend this, but I'm not Dana White either, okay? But if we got a guy who's going to go out and eat 200 punches, I mean, that is like a UFC fan's dream because all anybody wants is to see people throw and see people fight. Now, granted, there's the people. I want to see technicality and the jiu-jitsu and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And I assume, by the way, that you are highly skilled and all of that and you will only continue to get better and everything. But your fight was – Chris Lytle is in Indiana, and we got a chance to meet him for a bit there. And I actually trained with him twice, and then I stopped because it was – I got both of my arms broken, okay? And I'm not going to – I tapped out with a double arm bar, so double arm bar, so I'm not going to go in there. But his fights, fight of the night, he never got knocked out,
Starting point is 00:37:50 never got submitted in 30-some fights, man. I would never recommend you to do that. But I think you are going to be a gift to Dana, and Dana might not have known that before the fight, but now he's like, we got a guy all of a sudden so we're here for you do you have any um you have any nicknames you have a nickname or you just chris mutinho i just go by chris but it's us it's soulless i i try to try to show the world that i'm fucking i'm fucking soulless all the time man but it's yeah all that stuff's crazy man i'm gonna try
Starting point is 00:38:21 to put on fights of the night every time i get in this cage man and be that guy but it's uh i just gotta win and that's the only difference i'm gonna put on fight of the night every time i'm gonna break that fight in the night record and uh i think it's like 15 so 15 fights of the night and then then we'll worry about uh where i go after that hey can't get knocked out you don't have a soul the soulless chris matinho we can't get knocked out, you don't have a soul. The soulless Chris Moutinho. We can't thank you enough, brother. Yeah! Have a good one, Chris. Looking at some old school golf clips. They used to wear some incredibly hilarious things
Starting point is 00:38:58 while they golfed for nine to ten hours on a golf course so they can get away from their families for a while and chase a little ball around in full three-piece suits that were rolled up right below their knees wild that the game has progressed and evolved so much it's a beautiful sport it's a beautiful game we're watching the open right now from where is it royal saint george's of course okay royal saint george's southern what england okay it's down there in the southern part of england and when people talk St. George's. Of course. Okay. Royal St. George's. Southern England. Southern what? England. Okay, it's down there in the southern part of England.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And when people talk about the southern part of England, they say, who's golf courses down there? Tough. Tough. Yeah, look out. Hey, not easy courses. These are tough courses. The boys over there are playing.
Starting point is 00:39:37 We're watching along live. And joining us from an attic in Ohio. Yeah, college football two days in a row. Oh, my gosh. This is three days in a row? This is three days in a row. Three days in a row now. I did not think he was coming Ohio. Yeah. College football. Two days in a row. Oh, my gosh. This is three days in a row? This is three days in a row. Three days in a row now. I did not think he was coming on.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Unbelievable human being, A.J. Hawks. Yeah! Three days, dude. Three days, man. Congrats. Let's keep track. Holy shit. Well, I mean, tomorrow, you're going to be in studio here in Indianapolis.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Have you thought about that yet? What the show is going to look like, going to sound like? I'll be with you probably FaceTime in the first hour or so, maybe hour and a half or whatever. I'm pumped for it, but this is your show. Everybody knows that. What's it going to be about tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:40:16 Any big conversation pieces on the horizon? I don't know. I guess we're going to have to see what happens tonight. I'm sure some stuff will break before. You'll be upset because you're like, oh, I'm not in studio for one day. And, of course, the biggest news breaks and I'm not there. You'll probably get upset. And then we'll talk about it on the show and it'll make it fun.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Bingo. Carson Wentz gets traded. The first day I was gone, I was supposed to call in. And then all of a sudden something massive happens. The wife loved it, you know, right in the middle of vacation. Wife absolutely loved it. That caught me some points, obviously. That was awesome. But, yeah, Aaron's going to, you know, Aaron's probably going to decide what he's going to do tomorrow, if I had to guess.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So I want to let everybody know you're welcome. Thank you. You know when you're out to dinner and you're waiting for the food to come? Of course. And then somebody gets up to go to the bathroom and then the food comes while it happens? Yes. I'm doing that right now. I'm doing that right now.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I'm doing that right now. I'm doing that right now. I'm leaving. I'm going down to Houston to be a part of the first live in front of fans SmackDown for the WWE in like a year and a half or something like that. I mean, it's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:41:16 But more importantly, since I'm doing that, something massive is going to break in our world. Since it is AJ, I'll be able to FaceTime into your show while you're trying
Starting point is 00:41:24 to absolutely fuck up everything I have here around me AJ, I'll be able to FaceTime into your show while you're trying to absolutely fuck up everything I have here around me and we'll be able to talk about big news. Is that what's going to happen, pal? Yeah, I think you pretty much laid out what the next 24 hours look like, so it should be fun. So Aaron's breaking news tomorrow? Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:41:39 I have no idea about that, no. I would guess no. But hey, you never know. A lot can happen between now and then. Wow. Hey, good tease. Are you watching this open at all, or what have you been up to over there sports-wise? I haven't really seen it. I was going to turn it on and have it on in the background here,
Starting point is 00:41:53 but like you, I have a hard time not getting distracted by that and just staring at it and forgetting I'm doing a show with you sometimes. I don't know what you're talking about. Don't like me talk, okay? I've learned through my life that I am anomaly, all right? There was a situation when the West Virginia basketball team was playing on the same TV
Starting point is 00:42:11 at the same exec spot while we were interviewing somebody and a dagger was had right into WVU's season and like $10,000 out of my... as it was live on air. Still continue the conversation though, which I thought was pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Never really gets talked about. Everybody just saw my soul leave my body. Speaking of soul leaving bodies, did you hear us talk to the soulless Chris Moutinho? I actually saw the one, I saw a couple minutes and yeah, he said that's his nickname, right? Soulless? Soulless, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I want to prove to everybody I don't have a soul in the cage or out of the cage. Animal. That's pretty good i guess i mean you can call yourself like the sociopath psychopath either but soulless i think feels it feels about right i don't think those are hand in hand what you just did there you just tied what a couple things together there and well sociopath and psychopath you can tie those together a little bit you know what i think the issue is what's that you can you're right your correction was correct You know what I think the issue is? What's that? You can.
Starting point is 00:43:06 You're right. Your correction was correct. I would like to acknowledge that. But is there a little bit of jealousy coming from this particular jaw? Yeah. This particular face? Is there a little bit of jealousy? I don't know why she has that green hair. Who is who?
Starting point is 00:43:18 Well, that's why I asked for Chris to come on in the noon hour because I didn't know how it would go with your two forces being next to each other. A man who only missed one game his entire career after tearing his pec, his groin, his calf, his bicep, his ass. And at one point obliterating a tooth in his mouth because he doesn't wear a mouthpiece because he thinks it's bad for you actually and he obliterates a tooth zero documented concussions i just said i don't know if it's good for you i never said it was bad for you i mean you did kind of put down one to lift up another in that situation 10 dislocated fingers and then we're talking to this mutina guy as if he's the walking talking toughest guy on earth because he ate 200 punches.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Is there a little bit of an issue you have with me calling him just maybe the toughest species we've ever had? Absolutely not. I've never claimed to be a tough person. And Moutinho, I couldn't handle probably one of Sean O'Malley's punches if he landed clean on me. So more credit to those guys. They do things that I would never dream of doing. Such a baby face. I'm scared of fighting. I haven't heard you say it. I credit to those guys. They do things that I would never dream of doing. Such a baby face. I'm scared of fighting.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I talk to UFC guys or MMA fighters and I just can't believe that's what they do. But if you were forced to fight, let's go back. I would like to go back in time. By who? Who's going to force me to fight? Let's just say you're a forced pistol hawk. Pistol hawk. Hey, listen. Hey, Chopper bopper gets
Starting point is 00:44:45 involved as well they all get involved they say our family is going to be wiped off of this earth if you don't walk into that cage and fight that person and in the same way that you handled you know uh bull in the ring or oklahoma drills where you said and this is your quote, not ours. If the only way to survive this is by killing everybody, I guess I have to kill everybody. I think if you were forced to have that mindset, I still think you'd be an incredible fighter. And I think we potentially missed out on maybe the greatest heavyweight of all time.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I think, I think under those circumstances, a lot of people would be forced to become good fighters. So maybe, maybe in a different world maybe but those people aren't you know blowing their neck into their back like a like one of these things and their face on somebody's just knee in the nfl smashing a tooth into dust dust and then spitting and just getting back up and getting back out there. You're one of our greatest jaws. I just think Chris Moutinho is potentially right up there with you.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Didn't want to have you at the same time. Didn't know what if you guys would be able to coexist. Couple updates here. Adam Schefter talked about Aaron Rodgers with Chris Collinsworth on Chris Collinsworth's podcast. I like Chris Collinsworth as a podcast host before we get into this, by the way. I think this is a good idea for him, this whole PFF turning into a content creation as opposed to just a stats and analytics. They have said some absurd shit,
Starting point is 00:46:15 okay? They have said some absurd stats that they have pinpointed and pointed out, but there's a lot of good content coming out of there, and I like Chris. You're a big fan of Chris Collinsworth. You probably know him much uh much better than me I mean I definitely know of him probably better than you just because he played for the Bengals like my dad was a fan of Chris Collinsworth he's not that you know he's not very old I don't know if I remember when he was in the league but I definitely remember him as like people around me talking about him being a Bengals receiver so uh yeah I mean I like him I find when I bring him up in other settings, I'm surprised to learn how many people don't like Chris Collinsworth at different times.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah, we learned that. We've told this story before, and I kind of feel bad that we're saying it again, but it does fall perfectly into a story that should be told after what you just said. Yes. We were going to bring Chris Collinsworth out for our Cincinnati show in front of the audience, and it was at a rock concert venue. Learned a lot there. That place was pretty wild that evening. We're going to have Collinsworth
Starting point is 00:47:12 be the guest and somehow it didn't work out or whatever. And we ended up having Pac-Man and that was good news that we had Pac-Man on there because he not only was incredible and awesome and everything like that, but when he came out, they cheered. When I mentioned Collinsworth's name, Cincinnati booed him. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Oh, my fucking God. I did not know that. You're right, though. A lot of people do. I think he's getting a chance, though, to show that he's like a pretty cool guy, though, with this podcast. I think we're learning a lot about him. He's getting good conversations.
Starting point is 00:47:37 He and Schefter talked about the Aaron Rodgers situation. Collinsworth was basically portraying everybody that says Aaron can't leave. He's got no option. He was the Green Bay Packers. And Schefter was portraying an agent or Aaron Rodgers basically saying, I'm not playing there. I don't want to do it. It was fascinating because Schefter, it feels like the person who broke the story day one
Starting point is 00:48:00 of draft as now it's come out as an accumulation of information. Day of, it said league and team sources have told ESPN. So who knows what it is. He still believes Aaron's gone. And Aaron, AJ, I think I'd be remiss to the people listening and watching if I didn't ask you, what's Schefter talking about? Did Schefter say he thinks Aaron's gone, or did he say he thinks Aaron definitely does not want to be there?
Starting point is 00:48:28 Ty? He said he wants him gone. It's literally what he said. They ran a video. We have the video. Let's run a video. You tell me what you think he says. This is from Chris Collinsworth Podcast from Pro Football Focus.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I think Aaron Rodgers has been passive-aggressive about this whole thing. If he wants out of there, which I think he does, I think he's got to get some mud on his hands. And I think he's got to come out and say something to this effect. I love my coaches. I love my teammates. They're incredibly important. I love the fans. And I loved playing in Green Bay. But that time for me is over.
Starting point is 00:49:02 I'm moving on in my life. I'm getting married and I am not going to be returning to Green Bay as much as that organization and those people have meant to me. Okay. And then here's my press conference if I'm Mark Murphy or Brian Gutekunst. Aaron Rodgers has been a fantastic player for us. He's won us a Super Bowl. We love him here in Green Bay. We will always love him and we wish him well in his retirement. Goodbye. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Now Aaron Rodgers comes down and says, okay, that's even. Trade me. I want to be traded. No. We're not trading you. You're playing for the Green Bay Packers. You're playing for nobody.
Starting point is 00:49:43 You're under contract. No problem, Mr. Murphy. I'm going to go host Jeopardy. Thank you for squatting on me and not getting back three first round draft picks and various players to help your own team. We signed you to a long-term contract. You knew what you were signing. We knew what you were signing. We want you to play here. We don't want to play against you. If you choose to retire, that's your choice. Because you want to show me who's boss, you're not going to
Starting point is 00:50:07 improve the Green Bay Packers because you want to wish me luck in retirement. Okay, good luck with that, Mr. Murphy, as your team is flailing behind Jordan Love playing quarterback. Hey, listen, I know we're just role playing here, okay, and we're playing a little cosplayer, whatever the hell is going on.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I mean, Popcorn's here in Indianapolisapolis a couple weeks ago i know people put on costumes and do their thing that seemed to be a pretty well articulated thought out thing there by adam schaefter and as he said it i was like man this could be how this plays out if it chooses to go that way you maybe know some stuff in this whole thing why schaefter saying that to schaefter no stuff is is that something that maybe you you know you wouldn't want to talk to Aaron about where is that coming from because a lot of Packers fans every time Schefter opens his mouth they think to themselves he's gone I mean I don't think that anymore but I think I think you're right I think a lot of Packers fans do think do think that I mean and AJ your thoughts on that whole exchange there between Chris and Adam?
Starting point is 00:51:08 Well, I guess what I take from what Schefter is saying there, that if Aaron, if he truly wants out, he does. He has to make a stink. He's got to do something. He's got to say something that means, like, basically trade me. And I don't think Aaron comes out and says he's retiring, but who knows at this point what's going to happen. But, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I mean, that's different than what I thought. I didn't watch the video first. I read the comments. That was basically role-playing what it could look like, yes. But if Aaron does come out and say all this stuff and then says, all right, trade me, and Green Bay says no, eventually they're going to have to trade him, though. I don't know how long it may take, but eventually they would.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And Adam Schefter might have been buying into the character there a little bit. You know what I mean? By the way, he's pretty good. He's pretty good yeah you know i used to watch bull of course i used to watch bull and they would i mean i can't watch anymore but i used to watch bull about how trial science is why well something was going on i can't do it turns out bull's a big old scumbag well allegedly yeah i mean it kind of ruined the whole show because when you're watching you're like oh this guy's the smartest guy of all time of course this is what we need to do bull was allegedly about what dr phil did before he became dr phil allegedly i don't know it was made by his son he was a part of it as well it was cool that was like trial science and
Starting point is 00:52:19 you know jury selection and how you go about doing your thing and they had like a practice courtroom where they would practice like these lawyers would practice and statements and everything like that and it was a cool look into how things probably actually work and you know kind of fucked up too i mean i think now that you brought him in that's how he made it she brought him in to do that for whenever she was getting sued or i think for something bingo and then she put him on and then he became you know catch me outside yeah but like the the entire thing of practicing and being in court like schefter it looked like he was like if i was aaron this is what i would be doing as opposed to like everything schefter says we have to assume that all his chef knows something chef knows
Starting point is 00:52:59 something because he is schefter and it's like i don't know if that's that case i think he was just potentially buying into the character and what he could do as opposed to what probably in maybe I don't know maybe though I have no idea because if that is how it goes you have to to AJ's point you have to assume they gotta trade him if they're gonna get you know everything all that in return even though you know you don't know what you're gonna get with Jordan Love that was the case though wouldn't he he started that process a while ago don't you think like i mean what what why would if he really didn't want to or if he really wanted out why would he just wait like an additional month not say anything and then be like actually you know what like yeah nothing has changed
Starting point is 00:53:35 that's a great point by ty very good point well peyton said we got three weeks of the season you gotta have a plan that's right gotta have a plan that's what peyton said. If Aaron was going to do that, would he wait until the start of camp to make a comment like that and then start to stink when he knows, like, all right, if I do find something, I'll get traded. It may take a few weeks. Am I going to show up four days before my new team's opener? Yeah, I mean, we all compliment how smart he is all the time and how every word is perfectly placed.
Starting point is 00:54:03 That's how everybody views everything he says. And this guy continues to miss putt after putt right who rory's having rough i mean he just did a full putter flip in his own area down there i mean what's the score wow the score there's a lot of people playing he can he is plus two fourth bogey today though he's good together he put a jacket on a long sleeve on there but we always talk about how smart he is and calculated and that's people like hold that against him almost and then those same people are like yeah he's gonna be out he's gonna want to leave he's gone or whatever it's like would that be smart to do at this point i don't i don't know if now would be the smartest
Starting point is 00:54:45 time to do that, but also, I don't think any of us have a fucking clue what's going on behind closed doors, except for maybe this guy. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:52 that guy right there. This guy right here. He's a clown. No, it's not. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:54:56 He is a clown because he won't tell us. Well, he can't because there's a lot probably going on behind, there's potentially a lot going on.
Starting point is 00:55:02 He has to not tell us. Yeah, maybe. You're the clown for thinking that he should tell us and thinking that he's a clown for not telling hawks a clown he is for a lot of other reasons other than this one though. I think he is in a tough spot. Correct. Thank you, Pat.
Starting point is 00:55:29 No problem. I got you. I got you because it is a tough spot to be in. If this was happening with somebody that I was teammates with and hung out with a lot, it would be wildly tough, especially after spending an entire weekend jumping off docks together. You wouldn't be hanging out with that person or else you would probably spill the beans.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah, I don't have the ability. And that's, by the way, let's go back again to how incredible this man's cranium is. Yes. He's able to keep all of these secrets in there and not even rattle around at all. It's very impressive, AJ.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Thank you, AJ. It's a steel trap. Incredible. Now tell us. We have Ian Rapport join us here. I wish I knew. We cannot go to break because I cannot turn on music on the phone. Does your neck hurt? Is your neck messed up?
Starting point is 00:56:12 No, but I am sitting on the wire and it is... It happens to me all the time. I'm always messing with it. It is tough not to be, by the way, because it's just... I don't like the... I can't do the... Theants? I can't do the... The headset?
Starting point is 00:56:27 Yeah, because my... The whole thing? The whole thing gets uncomfortable. Like, my entire ear gets uncomfortable. I just can't do it. I'm with you. It, like, clamps down your ear after a while. I like these having the wire behind my back, too.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yeah, I like these because it's... It goes, you know, right in. I get good sound, and it's kind of like noise isolation. Move around. But I think our heads are too large, potentially, for those things. So it feels like I'm almost getting cauliflower here from those headphones sometimes when they put them on there. Nothing like buying a new pair of Beats by Dre for $700.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Hell yeah. And then realize they don't have enough padding to protect. Oh, my God. This is the most uncomfortable thing I've ever worn in my life. My head's too large for this. Yeah, it's tough. We're pretty cool, though, you and me. I did with our little earpieces. Man, that's sweet.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Aren't we? Yeah. Pretty cool, yeah. I mean, it's like big-time show stuff, you and me. Yeah. I'll make sure I bring my own batteries. I don't mind the cans. I like the cans. Yeah, but you got kind of a smaller head, right? I do. So that thing comes around it, and it really gives you a good thing. Mine are like coming at it
Starting point is 00:57:23 sideways thing, you know what I mean? So it's like, it's kind of like. Cans are uneven. Yeah. They're Sean O'Malley in my face. Yeah. Or my ear, I mean. Latino ears.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Excuse me. Latino ears. He's from your part down. He beats the fuck out of you. Smack you in the mouth. Absolutely. All right. We're going to go do a break because the show stinks.
Starting point is 00:57:43 All right. You can do a break now. Well, music just started playing because Zito played it back here. I don't know if you heard it. Yeah, I can hear it now. This break of music, man, what is it? Yeah, it's a beat. Oh, it's just Artlist.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Oh, shout out to Artlist, which is a collection of artists that we pay a monthly fee to to utilize their music. And then when we use their music, they sometimes get mad at us for not giving them credit. I feel like you should get mad at Artlist. It's on them. It's literally the whole point of it. See, Foxy has to deal with these people getting upset because Foxy utilizes this music to put it in videos and then all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:58:17 somebody would be like, no credit? It's my fucking song! It's like, well, you sold the credit to Artlist. Bingo, that's exactly how it goes. Good music. And by the way, not easy you sold the credit to Artlist, I think. That's exactly how it goes. Good music. Great music. Yeah. And by the way, not easy to find the name of it.
Starting point is 00:58:28 No. You gotta actually jump through hoops. This is a banger, though. Man, you guys deal with a lot of things, don't you? A lot of issues. There is a lot of bullshit in this world. I'm saying I'm unaware of a lot. I would assume, hey, I pay a subscription fee. I can use whatever want i don't that's why you don't give them credit or you can
Starting point is 00:58:48 if you want but you don't have to you know it's not really like bullshit it's like a i don't know i feel like we should uphold the standard in which we hope that others will operate like that's how i legitimately feel so we try to get it right like i legitimately try like hey we gotta give credit we gotta give credit but this art list thing like it's not i mean it's like we're giving credit to art list yeah that's who we are paying to give to collect the music for us but then sometimes we'll get you know like you guys are ass it's like fuck off yeah sorry pal you know what i mean like i'm i'm done with it but that's why i said to Joe Pompliano, you know? Like, hey, you should start.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Just because I think, like, there should be some sort of, it's the wild, wild west on the internet. It always is. DCMAs pop out of nowhere. People don't know when they're doing something. But I think as long as you're at least giving effort to give credit to whose mind it was. And although you're going to find out on the internet, a lot of minds think of things i mean that is the internet that is the world as a whole but i think you should at least try to give effort and i think we do like i i legitimately think we try to give effort so when somebody comes out it's like i do feel bad but also like fuck you we're paying you
Starting point is 00:59:59 you're coming after the wrong show like you always try to give credit and do the right thing other people don't it doesn't even cross their mind to think about giving credit. But I do believe that other people will get better as well as the internet continues to be the main form. I think it will continue to be that way. It's a beautiful place. We're allowed to do whatever we do. Good minds think of things.
Starting point is 01:00:19 We've got to give credit to them. Even if it's people we don't like. That's right. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. God do it. Are you thinking of a few people you don't like that you give credit to right now? That's in my head and I was figuring out which one I could unload into the microphone. And then I remember myself
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Starting point is 01:02:36 What's going on, dude? No golf today because today is actually a work day because it's the deadline for franchise tag players to do extensions, not that we've had any besides the three, you know, like Dak and Leonard Williams that we had earlier in the year. But I'm working today. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:02:54 We got two hours and 27 minutes to go. We'll see if we get a deal or two. Okay, the shot clock has been activated. This year, not that big of a deal compared to years past because a lot of the free agent players signed franchise tag-like deals this offseason because of the salary cap situation with COVID. Is that why this has been so kind of lame, this entire franchise tag free agency negotiation? Or is this status quo?
Starting point is 01:03:22 Do most guys who sign their franchise tag end up on their franchise tag because the extension period if the relationship before the extension period started after you sign a franchise tag was bad there's no chance the franchise tag makes it better or is this a different year than than most no i mean i think usually this is there's like a lot of hype for this day because there's a lot of big names who are up for deals. It's not really like that this year. Chris Godwin is a very, very, very good player, but I would not say probably more underrated than overrated and well-known. He's not going to get a deal with the Bucs.
Starting point is 01:03:56 He'll play on the franchise tag. That's a situation where they just extended and signed so many other players, bringing everyone back. I think that's one that they'll probably attack this coming offseason and try to retain him for 2022. There's some others like Marcus May where the Jets aren't in a good place with him. He's not going to get what he wants. But then you're right. I mean, today would have been all about Dak Prescott.
Starting point is 01:04:19 We would have had endless TV shows, subjects, leads to our shows, everything about Dak Prescott. But under the cover of darkness, him and the Cowboys did a deal basically three months ago or four months ago, whenever that was. So I think just kind of circumstance, but we got seven players. We know five are not going to get deals. I think for Taylor Moten and the Carolina Panthers, they're still working. I know both sides are open to a deal, but
Starting point is 01:04:48 there's been nothing resolved yet as far as whether he's going to get one. And then Marcus Williams and the Saints, the really standout safety. I know they've negotiated heavily. I have not gotten the sense that they are close on anything, but again, two and a half hours to go, so
Starting point is 01:05:04 I've seen some things happen over the years to kind of do something crazy. Okay, riveting. So I'm going to hit a follow-up here, and then AJ will have his question that is going to be fantastic. We saw your Godwin tweet breaking that news, and if we could bring it back up. Immediately upon reading it, I go, Oh, Ian got a text from the tampa
Starting point is 01:05:26 buccaneers that said the bucks and star wide receiver chris godwin are not expected to reach a long-term extension by tomorrow's deadline sources say though the team clearly values godwin as a core player they will work to keep him long term this coming off season as they did this past off season so whoever's giving you the information here i'm assuming it comes from the bucks do they tell you like hey we really want this to kind of have a feel of an announcement though that we are we very much want to keep him around long term is that is that how that is presented to you that information or in a or you just you tweeting that because of the feel of how the entire negotiation has gone with Chris Godwin?
Starting point is 01:06:06 Yeah, I would say for almost all of these things, I've talked to people on both sides. So for Chris Godwin, I never really thought they were going to get a deal. It didn't sound like they had a lot of traction. And again, I've known they've paid so many other guys. It didn't seem to me like it was going to happen. So I kind of knew going in it was probably going to be no deal. I approached people on the different sides of this basically with what I knew. I took the input from them.
Starting point is 01:06:35 So that's – I talked to the agent. I talked to a source with the Bucs. You kind of get the feel of it where like the players – everybody would like a long-term deal, but the player is's not sad he's going to be a free agent next year the bucks are okay because they keep their guy and so i think everything is probably in a pretty good place so i just want the tweet to kind of reflect all the rosiness yeah because you could start some bullshit with that if you actually you know what i mean i don't that's that's well i'm like the you know like the marcus may one you know he's not happy with the jets right now so that one was lot of pressure. Well, and like the Marcus May one, he's not happy with the Jets right now.
Starting point is 01:07:05 So that one was kind of had a – unfortunately kind of had a different slant. Although I know the Jets tried, he's not happy with them. So that was kind of reflected there. Have you heard anything new on the Richard Sherman situation? I know he's supposed to see a judge today. How do you think this is going to hinder his chance of getting signed to a team if something, I'm sure the league will have to look at it and see what's
Starting point is 01:07:28 going on, but do you think he's going to be able to find his way onto a team this year? First of all, so he's going to have a hearing in less than an hour. So he is, he was denied bail. Are there cameras in there, do you know? What's that? Will they be televising
Starting point is 01:07:43 that? Will there be cameras in the courtroom oh should be uh right i mean i think i feel like it's all i don't know that i think it should be but i i don't know for 100 sure um but that's why so he was denied bail which i think caused everyone to be like why why would he be denied bail but the way they do things is you you can't have a bail until you meet with a judge and you have a hearing, and they didn't do that at all yesterday. So he just sat in jail yesterday and now is going to have a hearing in a little bit. They'll set bail, and then I'm sure he'll be out on bail. It's a troubling situation in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Richard Sherman is one of the bigger names on the defensive side of the ball the last decade, and I think an extremely smart person and widely respected. He has gone through some difficult personal stuff over the last couple months.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I know some people close to him who flew out there to try to sit with him and help him through what he's going through right now. It doesn't sound like, obviously, there was a breakthrough there, and, you know, the 9-1-1
Starting point is 01:08:46 call was pretty disturbing frankly just a window into the kind of stuff that he is dealing with and I know it's been challenging you know personally obviously professionally as well you heard his wife say that you know he has he has discussed some very serious things with her. So the charges are troubling. I hope he gets help. And there's a lot more there. I hope it all ends up okay for Richard Sherman. Hey, we're on your side, Sherman. Hope nobody's affected.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Obviously, don't want any of that, but let's get on the other side of this thing. He is so awesome for the NFL when everything's humming for Richard Sherman. Hope everything ends up okay. Ian Rappaport, whenever you think about NFL news that could potentially happen from now until training camp, what should we keep our eyes open for? Nobody's going to move. Is there announcements?
Starting point is 01:09:39 Oh, Washington football team. We change a name soon. Are we going to get an inkling on that? What do you get a sense of something that we're going to be able to talk about as opposed to just projecting what the season's going to look like? Right. So I would say you're not going to get a name for the Washington football team. That's going to happen next year. So 2022. Um, so we're going to keep calling them the football team and just be unable to hashtag them on Twitter for the next year. Does that make you mad? Huh? Have you. Does that make you mad? Have you voiced your concerns?
Starting point is 01:10:06 Yes, it makes me mad. Have you voiced your concerns with Raj about that? Like, hey, is there a way we can get a name and a tweet? We can do the thing? Look, I got two concerns on this. One, I can't hashtag. I'm the only team I can't hashtag. And I like to do a good hashtag.
Starting point is 01:10:20 It makes the color come out a little different. Helps people search. These are my personal problems. I'm just telling you. It's nice to hashtag. The other thing is, if I accidentally use the previous nickname, then I get dragged, which I've done on TV. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I'm not good. You've done it? You've done that? By accident. Where? NFL Network? You're just like, you know what? I've done it on the Twitters.
Starting point is 01:10:44 I've done it on TV. Oh. I've done it on TV. Oh, yeah. It's total crap. I was having dinner with Snyder last night. We were talking about how good the, and you just let it eat right there, and then what just happened? You get assaulted on the internet immediately, huh, as soon as that happens? Dragged.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Dragged on the internet. It's like if you make a typo in your tweet, people just love it so much. Hey, they might be going back to the 140-char i think oh is that true no way i don't know good morning football was talking about it there had to be a reason they were talking about it i wouldn't mind it i like that it wouldn't be good for you no not be good for me um so you know obviously we got the rogers stuff we got the deshaun watson stuff oh what is it deshaun watson stuff there it is let's get into it what is that he's appearing in pictures his name just got dropped uh in an interview about maybe going to the eagles by schefter is there still some buzz in joe what's going on with deshaun
Starting point is 01:11:33 watson and there's no way he plays this year right there's no way this thing gets figured out with the magnitude of it before the season there's no way right oh i could see him playing this year yeah i mean i i mean i i would say if he's going to be suspended by the NFL for some portion of time, which I don't know, but obviously is possible given the charges and the circumstances that would, you know, would still probably allow him to play this year. I just don't know what team it's going to be for. You know, you mentioned the Eagles, look, they're a team of an unresolved quarterback situation and a ton of high-value draft picks. You also have teams. You've had teams interested in Deshaun Watson the whole time.
Starting point is 01:12:14 You know the teams that sort of have been a little bit rumored, the Panthers, the Broncos, the Dolphins. If there are still teams interested, I think a lot of them would like his legal situation resolved they don't know when or if that's going to happen and I haven't gotten the sense that the Texans have made any moves to deal in either like no one has said to me oh yeah Nick Casario is is picking up the phone and talking like that hasn't happened yet so we got like a week and a half to go before camp starts and if if that's going to pick up, you think it would be soon.
Starting point is 01:12:47 So I haven't heard anything change in that situation at all. Go ahead, Ty. Ian, you just alluded to it, and we talked about it a little bit earlier. Is there any way Rodgers isn't playing in Green Bay this year? Do you get the inkling that he'll miss any time of training camp, or will he be there the day it starts? I don't know if he'll be there the day it starts i don't know if he'll be there the day it starts i do have a strong feeling that he'll be playing for them um i just it has to
Starting point is 01:13:12 get fixed and they have made no moves whatsoever to trade him nor should they if i had aaron rogers i would never ever trade him um i just there's definitely some middle ground that I think, you know, the team and Rogers can find. And it's been, there's, it's been a lot of time. There's been a lot of conversations. There's been a lot of chances to make him okay with it. And he has still never come out and said, true them. I'm never playing there. So that to me means it's open and we'll see if in the week and a half, something can happen.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Hey, that training camp thing you said is going to get – I mean, that's maybe how he even has to make the goddamn ticker. Yeah, I think so. And maybe has to make the ticker, Ian. I saw AJ was quoted on PFT talking about he'll be there at training camp. Oh, really? You saw that? I got a whole article about it. Really?
Starting point is 01:14:01 Ooh. I didn't see that. Because AJ would break news in other places Other than this show It had to be I don't know if I ever said Did I say I've stuck from day one
Starting point is 01:14:14 I don't see any way he's not with Green Bay I think it was exactly what you said previously But still the headline was different Thank you for your time Ian You're always the best enjoy your day can't wait to see the franchise tag coverage and obviously everything going on in Washington state right now with uh a guy we hope ends up being all good in the end ladies and gentlemen host of rap sheet and for any updates no updates season's coming I mean much like Rodgers and Deshaun Watson, you'd like resolution, but I haven't heard any.
Starting point is 01:14:48 So still defunct. We're on hiatus. Still on hiatus. Three very, very, very different situations. Ladies and gentlemen. I would say similar. No, no, no. You'd be wrong.
Starting point is 01:14:57 You're a rapper, boy. Yeah, that's me. Jeez Louise. All right, so we got some franchise tag conversation In there we did it Congratulations to us Pat am I missing something but is this franchise tag day Like a big thing in the past
Starting point is 01:15:13 And I just didn't recognize or I didn't notice it I don't think so but I think there is a little bit more Angst amongst players And teams in years past about the franchise tag As there is This year because You know everybody's taking and wanting one-year deals because the salary cap's about to be absurd i think a lot of people
Starting point is 01:15:30 are going to want shorter deals going forward a lot more bet on yourself mentality i think by the athletes in the nfl right now the future contracts so interesting and fascinating chris ballard saying you can kick it down the road, you're going to eventually have to catch up to it or whatever. Maybe. But what if you win four championships with it? You know what? What if you win two or three championships, and then guess what?
Starting point is 01:15:54 You're not the GM anymore. You don't have to deal with the aftermath. Yeah, you just take your bow. You're welcome for what I did. I'm done. I left this place completely fucked. But we did win. Good luck to whoever follows me.
Starting point is 01:16:06 That is, you know, that's potential. That could happen. There's a guy with an incredibly large bill of the hat on his head right now talking on the golf channel on the open. His hat seems to be massive. It's like a clown's hat. Wait, the bill, like the little kid in the Sandlot has a long bill. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Unless this guy has a smaller head than any human I've ever seen. That might have been the biggest hat I've ever seen in my entire life. Pat, I saw Zalatouris chip one in for an eagle, I believe, in a par four. Zalatouris? He was invited to the Open, so that means he's got his official thing. Because there at the beginning, we were wondering if he was going to be invited. Have we followed Zala Torres all year? How's he doing?
Starting point is 01:16:50 I don't know if he has got his official tour card yet. But if you place a top five in a major, which he did this year, you automatically get into another major this year. Come on, Patrick. Make the putts. I think Morikawa, I believe, is playing very well today as well. Hey, this is his type of course. It's good forawa, I believe, is playing very well today as well. Hey, this is his type of course.
Starting point is 01:17:06 It's good for his eye because he's good with the clubs. That's right. That's right. I think Zaltor's finished at one under. Let's go, Zaltor. Boys. Hey, you know what they say. Easy come, easy go out there at the Open.
Starting point is 01:17:18 That's right. If that wind flips sides, it's a whole different course, AJ. It's a whole different course over there. By the way, the town is called Sandwich, England. They're in Sandwich, England? Yeah. That place is awesome. Beautiful this time of year.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Is that where the name Sandwich came from? I don't know. Are they the ones that started stacking carbs and putting meat in between it? Sandwich, England, I owe a debt of gratitude to that I'm not sure I'll ever be able to pay. I do believe so. I think they're named after the Earl of Sandwich England, I owe a debt of gratitude to that I'm not sure I'll ever be able to pay. I do believe so.
Starting point is 01:17:46 I think they're named after the Earl of Sandwich. This is my favorite town that has ever come into existence when it comes to the culinary aspect of the world. Pizza, also very high up there, but I am a sandwich person. Always have been. Always will be. Wanted to open a restaurant called Everything's a Sandwich, where I literally turned everything into a sandwich. Chicken parm, spaghetti, cool. We're going to take a roll.
Starting point is 01:18:16 We're going to make out a sandwich. Boom. Every single meal, which is how I ate, by the way, for about 10 to 15, still doing it basically. Sandwich England holds a very dear, dear place in my heart. I fucking love it. Who's the mayor of Sandwich England? Sandwich England gave its name to the food by the way of John Montague,
Starting point is 01:18:34 fourth Earl of Sandwich, and the word sandwich is now found in several languages. Thank you, Earl of Sandwich. Thank you, Earl of Sandwich. Fourth Earl of Sandwich. So the Earl is a title. Oh, his name is not Earl. Okay. He's the fourth Earl of Sandwich.
Starting point is 01:18:50 I thought it was Earl Sandwich. His name's John Montague. Substantial gambling problem, too. So is that why you like him, Diggs? Who? Read the last line of that. John Montague had a substantial gambling problem that led him to spend hours on end at the card table.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Big sandwich guy, big gambler. I think, yeah, those two go, you know, they say peanut butter and jelly. Yeah. You know, they say peas and carrots. What? Chocolate and peanut butter. What? Adam and Eve.
Starting point is 01:19:22 What? I can't know. Montague's Incapulets what well they don't that's not the way they did it Earl's Sweatshirts
Starting point is 01:19:28 but Montague if you're a sandwich if you're the founder of a fucking sandwich you're probably gonna be a pretty big gambler you're trying to eat things quickly
Starting point is 01:19:36 and on the go that's cause you got more bets to make more moves to make shout out to John Montague thank you Johnny Montague in 1762 14 years before before America said, fuck you, created a goddamn sandwich.
Starting point is 01:19:49 It was huge. And that is what I'm here for. Thank you, John. Man, I knew I loved sandwiches. I didn't know John Montague. Is he an Italian? Is that an Italian name? No, he's English.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Yeah, it has to be. Montague actually. He had become the fourth Earl of Sandwich by being from elsewhere. From somewhere not named Sandwich? Yeah. It's a royalty thing? Does every town have royals in England? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Every town? I don't know if it's every town, but there is a fair amount. So there'd be like a Duke of Indianapolis if this was England? It'd be beautiful. But they'd be from the royal family. And then they send them out there like hey this is your area now you know what I'm saying I think that's George actually
Starting point is 01:20:28 I'm thinking of calling this roast beef John seems to look pretty similar to every wig party member that the United States government had seen throughout its existence there was popular hairdo back in the day well it actually was a wig
Starting point is 01:20:43 lawyers had to wear it. It was popular. By the way, in some places, they still do that, right? Parliament. What's that? Parliament. Go ahead. Parliament. Yeah, Parliament. Hey, they wear those costumes still. Yeah? Could you imagine getting judged by somebody in that costume
Starting point is 01:21:00 and being like, yes, sir. Yes, sir. What are you fucking doing? Take the fucking wig off. God damn it. Could you imagine that? I guess it's tradition. That's the way it goes. There's a lot of law traditions.
Starting point is 01:21:10 You don't need to wear the wig. I mean, you could keep the wig out. Didn't they wear the wigs originally back in the day because they had all kinds of lice and diseases growing on them? This is something you would know. For real, I think the wigs were started for rich people that could cover up whatever was going on, whatever kind of situation they had. Toupee. Respect. Wigs are still doing that, I think the wigs were started for rich people that could cover up whatever was going on, whatever kind of situation they had.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Toupee. Respect. Wigs are still doing that, I think. Let's go to Robert in Texas. Robert on the 5-Hour Energy phone line, 5hourenergy.com. Go ahead and get yourself $10 off or 10% off your next order at 5hourenergy.com. Official summer flavors are available, obviously. I don't want to cut off the collar, but in the mid-17th century,
Starting point is 01:21:48 a balding scalp was a sign that someone had syphilis, so that's why they wore the wigs. Yeah, you ain't never know if I got syphilis. You're going to at least have to take the wig off, find out. All right. Robert, what do you want to talk about? What part of Texas are you in? I'm in El Paso, Texas.
Starting point is 01:22:05 That's high elevation right up there. You guys are high elevation in El Paso. Oh, yeah. I'm right by the mountains. Ball Fox Bar down there. UTEP? Oh, yeah. UTEP.
Starting point is 01:22:16 BOMBS. UTEP. Aaron Jones, baby. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. Yes, sir. Long-term deal. Going to be a Green Bay Packer with everybody else.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Oh, I don't know. Aaron Jones. I don't know. Zarin Jones. I don't know. What do you want to talk about, Bob? Yeah, I actually, I know we were on the subject of MMA earlier and Chris Mucuno, but I actually want to talk about someone else getting the shit ripped out of him and Dewey Haskins by his wife. What is your opinion about that?
Starting point is 01:22:44 All right, Robert. Okay. Thank you, Bob. This guy just want to take a shot at Dewey Haskins. I know. Someone's got to. The tough thing is, though, he just got married or engaged, though, right? Something happened.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Yeah, this all went down on July 3rd, and then he posted a picture of him being engaged, and then they're describing it as his wife, and then they're renewing vows, allegedly, and she punched him in the mouth, attacked him in Vegas. He lost a tooth. age and then they're describing it as his wife and then they're renewing vows allegedly and she punched him in the mouth attacked him in Vegas he lost a tooth she's back in court once again an incredibly sad situation popping off right now in the NFL Dwayne Haskins is going into the Ben Roethlisberger leadership camp here as he becomes a Pittsburgh Steeler everybody knows he has the amount amount of talent to be great. Will he be able to figure it all out?
Starting point is 01:23:29 Hopefully the people around him are on the same page as he is if he wants to figure this out. This is not an incredibly fun situation to talk about. Shout out to Robert bringing it up down there in Texas. We're not going to talk about it. Jesus Christ. Yeah, man. It always happens.
Starting point is 01:23:43 There's a lull in the summer when stuff just happens and unfortunately a lot of bad things tend to happen when people have off time it's free time you know every schedule is regimented whenever you're in the season it is groundhog's day for six months it's just the same day same day same day then you get a little freedom and that's when all shit pops off they used to give us presentations in the NFL about when arrests happen. Now I was one of the OGs. I got in October.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Okay, so that was something. When alcohol arrests or when alcohol is involved with an arrest, they have like the time that happens. The offseason is just you might as well just go ahead and circle that thing. And it's not just the offseason. It's the summer in between OTAs and training camp where really the weather starts to break. You know you're about to go into a six-month sentence here for football.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Let's get it all out of our system and shit seems to happen. Hope everybody gets it figured out. Hope that Dwayne Haskins also, you know, figures it out in his relationship. It seems like they still got married or engaged after this whole thing happened. But Dwayne Haskins also, you know, figures it out in his relationship. Yeah. It seems like they still got married or engaged after this whole thing happened. A couple of happy memories. Hopefully they figure that out. Him and Tony playing ball together on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Ask him about it, Tony. You guys are going to be in diamond. Hey, whenever you're throwing it around after that, you go, hey, dude, what's going on? Are we still married? Hey, where's that tooth? Hey. What's your problem?
Starting point is 01:25:06 Just to find out if he's got it. He's a teammate. He's trying to build the chemistry up. Which tooth was it, if you could ask? That is crazy. Was this a hook or a jab? All right. That's the show.
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