The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 453 - Pat's In Houston, AJ Hawk In Studio, & Trey "Boom Boom" Mancini

Episode Date: July 16, 2021

On today's show, Pat is in Houston in preparation for tonight's Friday Night SmackDown which will be the first in front of a live audience since before the pandemic (8 EST on FOX), and AJ Hawk is in studio as they chat about AJ being very professional with his outfit for the show, Tom Brady playing the entire 2020 season on a torn MCL and how Pat and AJ (two guys with 10+ knee surgeries between them) navigated the waters or how teammates they knew did whenever they had knee injuries during an NFL season. They also chat about the issues with the men's Olympic basketball team, and what the potential outcomes are, what getting gear is like in the NFL and college and much more. Plus, joining the program to chat about his remarkable performance in this years Home Run Derby is Baltimore Orioles slugger, Trey "Boom Boom" Mancini (31:32-49:57). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Friday, July 16th, and you are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0. Pat joins the show today from down in Houston as he prepares for Friday night Smackdown on Fox tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time in front of a live audience. AJ Hawk guest hosts the show today in studio, Plus Trey Boom Boom Mancini, the United States Olympic basketball team. Tom Brady playing the whole year on a torn MCL and much more. Today's a fun one. Be a friend, tell a friend. Let's get into it.

Hello and welcome. Obviously I am not Pat McAfee. This is AJ Hawks sitting in for Pat. He is down in Houston about to commentate for SmackDown, a pay-per-view, I believe, on Sunday. And I talked right over the spot, but Pat never speaks over, so that was for you, Pat. I know you're probably watching down in your hotel. We will bring you in in a minute, but I made the trek over here to India. I hope I'm looking at the right camera, right? Right? You're good. But obviously, Ty Schmidt is here. Gumpy is here.

COVID cowboy has a big softball game tomorrow, right? Thank you. You go to the cages yet? Probably going to get rained out. So it's going to be awesome. We've got seven hours home. We're going to get rained out. I'll drive back.

Let's have like a seven-hour delay, and then we'll get to you. Obviously, Foxy's in the back. Nick Moraldo. Jay McIntyre. I think Billy Nick Moraldo, Jay McIntyre. I think Billy Tube's back there. McIntyre. I think you should change it to McIntyre because Pat's trying to claim the number one McAfee

after, was it John? Yep, John McAfee. Like I said, I enjoy being the bottom rung of the McAfee family. I don't mind. I'll stay McAfee. Hey, I think you're top rung of the McIntyre family and the McAfee family.

But you know what? Let's not wait around because I know Pat's about to get kicked out of his room down in Houston. He cannot get the late checkout. So, Foxy, if we can cut it down to Houston hotel room with Pat and I believe Connor is with him, correct? Oh, hey, boys. Hey. Show's going great. You know, open about, what, five to ten seconds late there, Fox.

AJ, right through the beat drop, you're wearing a suit. Okay, you look good. And Jason McIntyre is a human in the sports media world already. Okay, don't need to do that to my brother. Connor, you look fantastic. You look great, too. No, you look good. No, no, no, you look fantastic. You look great, too. No, you look good. No, you look good.

Not as good as A.J. Hawk wearing a full suit. Come on, that guy today. Are you kidding me? Is that every day now? It has to be. Oh, are you wearing suits every day now, A.J.? You look amazing. Thank you for doing what you're doing. Houston's hot. We're having a great time, and we are going to get kicked out of our hotel, so we can't wait

to watch and listen as we can here, bub. Well, i tell you what is hot is this studio i don't know if you can see me profusely sweating it is blazing down here it's usually like 48 degrees pat keeps these like letterman's got to keep the studio nice and cool so he can really his brain works the best but i'll tell you what it's about 95 in here when it comes to me i don't know how you guys feel i mean i feel okay aj was pitting out early before he even walked into the studio. So, I mean, yeah. It's hot in the kitchen, AJ. Well, no, it's something about when I wear dress clothes,

I wear something nice, I instantly just start sweating. There's something mentally that I've got to find a way to get over, right? Well, normally when you dress up, you have to go to an event that is going to be absolutely fucking terrible so i think that is kind of the mental part of it all you know like okay not only do i have to wear this klan suit klan that is too hot all right not only do i have to wear this amish thing around my neck to make people think that i am more professional than they are looking like a stooge in a clan but the uh what i'm saying is i think it's not just the physical thing you're wearing i think it's also the mental thought

why are you dressed like that i think you are doing an incredible service to that desk you're making it look professional everything like that this is awful this is getting it's getting tighter and tighter like i was here how many months ago? Four, maybe? I don't know. I walked in, and the first thing I said to everybody, are you serious? This desk? It's getting worse.

There's less and less room to even move. If I end up knocking all these sheets down, please don't be upset, Pat, because it may happen. It's already about to topple because you have 7,000 sheets right here along with everything else in the world. Hey, that's your guess? Is that your guess? Because we do have a giveaway going on with those sheets. It's 7,000 sheets right here along with everything else in the world. Hey, that's your guess? Is that your guess? Because we do have a giveaway

going on with those sheets. It's 7,000. You're the one who has an eye on it. Everybody on the internet is wondering how many sheets are in there. I will say that desk and the boys will attest to this back there and since Connor's here with me, I guess he could do it. Connor can pop in.

I've even said that that desk has become Are you okay? I need a towel. Take the suit off, dude. No way, man. I'm professional. Huh? I'm professional. I'm trying to bring some class to this studio, to this seat.

Get out of here. Ty, what is going on? You know, you've got a chance to meet Green Bay Packer folklore. You know, all-time leading tackler, all-time leading passer. I think, Ty, you've been a great owner of the Packers. Thank you. Absolutely.

Thank you. I'm sitting here, by the way, because the camera, whenever it splits, I got, you know, we got full catch, but I can't. And it's also nice to be next to this guy. But, Ty, when AJ walks in and says, this studio, this office is normally despicable. I need to clean it up a little bit. And puts that full clown suit on and walks in there. What are your immediate thoughts about a hero?

A guy that you probably had a poster of up in the bedroom whenever you were growing up. Yeah, had the fat head. I mean, it hurts, obviously. I mean, I've come to know AJ pretty decently over the last, what, two years, three years or whatever. But, I mean, it was a cheap shot. There's no question about it. Luckily, he has not pissed on the floor yet, which we know he loves doing that every time he comes here. So I think that'll kind of be like the final, you know, knife in the back if that is to happen today.

I mean, absolutely blast me, Pat. You know that. Whoever did piss all over your floor, it was not me. What? Watch that saber sword. Careful. Why do you have this? For the serious listeners, I know Pat doesn't refer to you very often.

I'm holding a big old scepter, I believe they call it, that he had tucked away in the corner of his office. I will say, serious listeners, I appreciate you every day, even more so today. But to be completely candid we make all of our money and all of our reference points are often numbers that do not involve you because serious gives us no numbers at all so i'm not saying personally it is a zero but every business move that has made the serious number is at zero so we have no idea if people actually

listen but what aj is holding is a sword straight out of Game of Thrones, I think. Zito bought that at an auction straight out of Game of Thrones. It was a gift to me, and now you're mocking it, obviously. Wait, this is real? Like this was used in the show? On set, yeah. Yeah, by the Dothraki. They actually severed a head with that.

About as realistic as the guy that they said was Aaron Rodgers on that episode where he was running all duck-footed? Hey, he was running all duck-footed? He was running. That was the best part of that whole thing. Do we know where he was? Has he ever said it? I know we asked him, and he got mad at a lot of people that thought that that unathletic-looking sumbitch that went into the alley and then died was him.

But did we ever find out where he was? We never did. I mean, he tried to tell us where he was, I guess, but I don't know. I have find out where he was we never did i mean he he tried to tell us where he was i guess but i don't know like i have no clue where he was like what did he do does he tell is there any behind the scenes has aaron told you anything aaron hasn't really talked to me lately i did call him last night just to kind of check in hey aaron we're in houston it's great down here i don't know what you're thinking about texas but it's great you know i was just hoping he was doing well, really. Yeah, so he doesn't really talk to you much. How about you, guy wearing a suit

hosting a sports show? Have you heard anything from this guy? You're breaking news. You're on Get Up? Okay. AJ Hawk says da-da-da-da-da-da-da. You're on Colin Cowherd's show yesterday. He didn't give us credit, but he did give you credit. You might have said it on his show, to be honest, because you have been saying the same thing this entire time, and it's just getting

recycled as breaking news. Do we know it is today? Today, is this honest, because you have been saying the same thing this entire time, and it's just getting recycled. It's breaking news. Do we know it is today? Today? Is this why? Did you put the suit on because you're breaking big time news today? You wanted to be professional. Big J, maybe get a raise or a job somewhere else. No, I'm not looking for employment anywhere else.

Pat, I'm very happy here. I love working with you. Oh, yeah. I absolutely. That's good news. I want nothing to do anywhere. I'm not looking for anything else. This is where I feel like my home is,

so thank you and the boys for that. I don't have any information. Yes! Hey, welcome home, AJ. Thank you, AJ. Welcome home. Good to be home. Never thought at 37,

looking at this stuff, like this would be my home. This is where I found my broadcasting home. But you know what? I appreciate it, man. It's fun. I think you're doing a great thing. Well, it says more about you than me i want to let you know that that statement you last made there you're trying to take a shot at me you took a shot at the mirror pal but i will say

we are lucky to have you alongside us whenever you decide to show up which is most days unless it is a minivan vacation across the country with the family, a trip to the beach, a golf outing, whatever you live your life. We are very thankful that more often than not, you drop in here and give us absolute gems and credibility on the defense side of the ball and all that. But you stepping up and hosting from Indianapolis today,

and we're fucking with you because you do look ridiculous. I have no idea what you're doing, but I can't thank you enough for this, AJ. And I think today's show is probably, what are you doing to candles? Don't light anything on fire. You hear me? Put the candle, everything I just said, I take back. I appreciate what you're doing.

If you burn that place down, it's going to be a problem. I'm just lighting the candle to create some good ambiance in here. You really get a good feel. It's already hot enough. What are you adding flames for? Don't worry about it. I like to see how I can handle some adversity. So I'm trying to make it a little bit warmer.

You're in Houston, Pat. Any sightings of Jack Easterby? Are you going to have lunch? What are we doing? Cocktail hour, maybe? Fascinating you say that because I may or may not have a microphone to the entire arena tonight, I'm being told. How am I not going to mention

Jack Easterby? That is kind of because as soon as we got to town, we drove around Houston. Pretty dead, by the way. Yeah, really. It is a pretty dead downtown. This is early. We might not be.

This is the business district, I believe is how Zito described it. But there wasn't anybody on the streets, really, anywhere or anything. So we're trying to get some tips on who goes where and what. I guess when we get kicked out of the hotel here in a bit, we'll be able to do that. The only reference point I have for this city, though, is Crip Walkin' Jesus Pastor Guy, Jack Easterby. Yep. What a burger. Whoa, yeah.

What? They went to Whataburger last night, shut down. And other than that, I just know that it's the fourth largest city in America. It's beautiful. But this place is shut down. We haven't seen anybody, AJ. You mean shut down because of COVID? No, I think it's shut down because, like, so in Charlotte it you mean shut down because of covid no i think

it's shut down because like so in charlotte you ever been to charlotte aj yeah so charlotte shuts down like six o'clock we played in the uh mineke car care bowl down there against um north carolina chase rice hakeem nixon them and what we realized is aside from this one area the rest of the city shut down at like six o'clock i'm'm like, what the hell is going on here? Houston, very similar. Whataburger shuts down at 2.30 p.m. It's 10 a.m. to 2.30 p.m. Just for people that are working,

everything else shuts down. We might be in, I don't know if this is the whole city of Houston, but where we're at, dry. Yeah, it's definitely the financial area because when me and Zito were walking through earlier, there was a lot of people in suits like AJ walking around. Not to mention there's a green tea shortage in the city at the moment.

Not good. That fucked me up this morning. What, your Starbucks, they didn't have your gigantic ice cream teas? Nope, not any of them. We went to one. They said, hey, try this place. Went to the other. This place said, hey, by the way, no Starbucks have green tea in this city.

We don't got any of it. We had to find the Nucky Thompson of green tea. Couldn't fucking find him. Haven't been in town long enough. But what I'm saying is I don't know enough about Houston. Haven't been able to learn enough since getting here because we haven't really run into anybody. My only reference point is Jack Easterby. So I hope I run into him or he's going to get quite a pop tonight, hopefully, in that arena.

I don't know how they feel about him. We're going to learn quick. You know, when Jack Easterby is seawalking all over the place, giving his beautiful sermons, he looks like, I don't know if you've ever had an MCL situation, Pat, but we just caught news that Tom Brady played last season with a torn MCL, ended up getting surgery to fix this after the year. Do you have any experience with this, with MCLs? I think people get confused between MCL, ACL, PCL, all of this stuff. The ACL is really what gets talked

about the most. What is this with the MCL? Do you have any idea? Okay. So AJ, I'm happy we're getting to talk about this because we're two dudes who probably have eight to nine knee surgeries combined between us. I don't know how many you had. How many did you have? I think five or six. surgeries combined between us i don't know how many you had how many you have i think five or six jesus so i had four so we got 10 knee surgeries between the two of us so we happen to know a little bit about the knee the good thing for me is none of the ligaments ever were damaged for me and that's what the l's are at the end of the acl mcl pcl all this shit right so i never i had meniscus issues and patella issues and the the meniscus is like a surgery where they go in and it's a, what's it? Arthroscopic.

Is that what it's called? Yeah. Scope is what it's called. It's just quick though. They go in, they kind of clean it up and then they go out. It's like, it could be anywhere from four weeks to six weeks recovery. Cause there isn't really any structural damage when the ligaments are damaged, like the MCL, the PCL, the ACL, that's a big fucking deal.

The MCL I think is the easiest to kind ofcl the acl that's a big fucking deal the mcl i think is the easiest to kind of get around i'm not 100 sure i don't know it well enough and there are some people that don't need their acls there's some people in the nhl that don't even have an acl and then there's some bodies that most bodies as soon as the acl is gone you can't do anything so the ligaments are much different than everything else aj do you have any ligament structural damage or was yours mostly meniscus cleanup chipping and everything like that well it was all of that but it started with my pcl i told my pcl my senior year in high school that's what goes like front and back i guess and helps stabilize so i i was a punter i think i've told this in the show ran a fake punt my first game my senior year planted my right leg right at the

first down marker dude went low blasted my knee straight back, tore my PCL. Hold on. Hold on. AJ, what other positions did you play? I played running back, linebacker, punter. Kicked off a little bit, but had to kick off once after a touchdown run. I was dead tired. I yanked that thing about 12 yards, but it went 60 rows deep out of bounds.

That's going to happen, and that's a bad field position. That's not what you want at all. But did you get injured in any of those other positions? No, I don't think I did. Yeah, so my injury was when I was the punter. You're right. What a grueling, grueling position. I got hurt playing punter too.

Hey, listen, it happens to the best of us, but go on. I'm sorry I interrupted you there. Punter is a position you can get got. I think that gets forgotten about. But the PCL front to back mcl is lateral and then the acls through the middle is that what it is yeah i think i don't know exactly how the acl like the mcl is inside the lcl is outside lateral obviously yeah acl is the big one that you really need the most i guess that you have to usually get fixed even though you hear stories

about people playing with torn acls and for some some reason some people can handle it more than others uh but with tom i guess you can do seen it. You, I'm sure you've been around guys, Pat, that play with a torn MCL. They do like a tape job. There's some special tape job to try to stabilize your knee as much as you possibly can. And then Tom wore a knee brace on top of that. Yeah. The stabilization also, I think there is a, yeah, I think the stable stabilization also takes away from the pain that potentially happens from a little bit of a bobble. Not just like

physical performance ability with the stabilization, but also I think keeping it tight is also getting away from some of the pain. He had to have a painful season. Let's not, this is not something I do not want to undersell this. It is not cool to have anything torn in

any part of your body. Rob Minkovich, I think you mentioned this early, Connor. Rob Minkovich talked about how the MCL like, this is something that you can get around. He was more impressed with whenever he busted open his thumb. When was that? That was in the day before the AFC Championship when Rex Burkhead

was taking a handoff. He busted open his thumb. He had to get stitches. They didn't know what was happening. He's throwing a hand. He still went out to play. So I'm not saying that Tom Brady isn't incredibly tough, and he's 40-plus years old dealing with all this, which makes it even more impressive, but there have been people in the past that have gone through full seasons I think with torn MCLs.

It is not cool, the amount of management that has to be involved with that, especially with being a quarterback, being Tom Brady, learning a new system. Insane. More power to him, but that was wild to hear, quarterback, being Tom Brady, learning a new system. Insane. More power to him. But that was wild to hear. And then he wins the fucking Super Bowl. Alex Guerrero has to be like, hey, pliability.

We're pliable motherfuckers now. We win Super Bowls and stuff. New offenses, new homes, COVID. What? Don't give a damn. Give us a torn MCL. We don't care. Eat avocado ice cream.

You win a goddamn Super Bowl. That's pretty much what happened there, AJ. Hey, Diggs, what about you? I know you have a big game tomorrow. Any worry that you may stretch one of those MCLs? It's almost guaranteed. I'm not going to stretch at all because I figured that's not going to do anything at this point. I ain't never seen Secretariat stretch. Exactly.

Harris used to say that. You think those guys are greatest generation when they're running across the beaches in Normandy? They're worried about pulling fucking hamstrings? Absolutely not. You're a Browns guy yeah they want two world wars so digs though honestly though where's your head at where i know we won't spend a bunch of time on it i don't want to freak you out the weather's gonna be fine don't worry it's not gonna be raining out i know you're you're quietly hoping for that maybe take some bp and then just call it a day that's what you may hope where is your head at, though? Have you been sleeping

at night? Yeah, I feel really good. I feel like probably going to get team MVP if I had to take a guess. I feel really good about the game, AJ. Whoa, whoa, whoa, AJ. There's no chance this game's played, huh? I don't know. Is the weather going to get really

bad here? I know it's raining now. You can see it on my jacket. Some of the rain. It's like a 60% chance of rain tomorrow. Oh, then you're good. 40% is not. We're all set. Don't know. Is the weather going to get really bad here? I know it's raining now. You can see it on my jacket, some of the rain. It's like a 60% chance of rain tomorrow. Oh, then you're good. 40% is not. So we're all set. Don't worry. Have an optimist.

Look at it like an optimist. Hey, 40% is a high percentage. Why did Diggs say he's going to be team MVP? Is this a whole new Diggs? Did you go to sleep last night and have a full train? Because I thought he was saying that because he knew it was going to get rained out. Yeah. So then he can kind of do his whole thing. There's a chance this game happens and he thinks he's going to be team MVP.

Let's go. This is a much different digs today. Here we go. Well, you know me. I have to get every single side possible out into the air so that if one of them does happen, I can say, told you so. Realize why the hammer down record

is the way it is. Nah, nah, nah is so much sense now don't drag that into the hammer down thing i'm just telling you what people would say i didn't say that i'm just saying as soon as that came out of your mouth digs i was like oh people are gonna say that's probably what's going on over there but that isn't that pat i'm okay with you saying it but that parrot on your shoulder, if he says it, I'm going to be fucking pissed. Okay? This actual parrot? What are you talking about, Tony? I think you're going to win the MVP too, dude.

I'm locked in on you hitting eight dingers on Saturday, brother. You with that sell the Buccos team shirt on with him sitting on your shoulder like that is the best. Well, that's what we are dude we're the pop that's bro dude is that hey is that a shirt you sell that you're wearing yeah for the time being i think this one will get cease and desisted pretty quick

wait would they come at you for that i assume they got really marketed it much but if you find it you get it in our store is i mean've got to have a good day and a half or so to scroll through that thing to find this. So if somebody finds this, they can definitely buy it. I don't know how long it's going to last, but we have a couple others we're ready to get sued for too pretty soon that are kind of sitting in the chamber. Hey, I'm curious with Connor, though.

I know, Connor, you're a diehard Patriots fan. With Tom Brady, you hear this news about the MCL and how he played through it and everything. Are you excited? Are you saying, hey, that know, Connor, you're a diehard Patriots fan. With Tom Brady, you hear this news about the MCL and how he played through it and everything. Are you excited? Are you saying, hey, that's just Tom being Tom? Do you think it's overblown? Like, where are you on this? I mean, I don't know, Hawk.

You think I'm happy that Tom Brady's legend grows more as he's a Buccaneer? Like, what do you think this is? You should be happy, Connor. No, I'm not happy about it. Foxy's rooting for Matthew Stafford out with the Rams. Like, I assume you're rooting for Tom O'Neal. He's never witnessed a Super Bowl. He's never witnessed an AFC championship.

He doesn't know anything about falling from the top of a mountain, Hawk. So, no, I'm not happy about it. But, hey, you got to respect it. It's cool as hell. I mean, the lacerationeration definitely much more difficult than the mcl i'll say it i know he's thinking it so i mean at the end of the day the legend grows unfortunately it's with the buccaneers what are you gonna do c'est la vie that's life how about being happy for the guy how about being thankful for the guy for what he did for your happiness

you wouldn't get it you wouldn't get The thing is... No, you can stay. I think the thing about it, Foxy, is Detroit, you guys didn't win anything. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I'm still thankful. I'm still thankful for the guy. You'll be happy for him when he goes on and wins because people will always say he was at Detroit. He was at Detroit for so long and then

he finally went on to win. What he's talking about is Tom's legend is just continuing to grow in Tampa. And as somebody that watched a guy get cut and then go to another place, have success, legend, grow more. Now he has become the face of that city and you only see him in that uniform. And I'm talking about Peyton Manning right now. That happened to Peyton Manning.

And I mean, Tom, that's the only close comp that they have in New England is the Peyton situation as of relevancy. That's what he's talking about. So I think we all understand why you're happy for Matthew Stafford to have a little bit of success. A little. Guy threw for 400 yards a game and, like, lost somehow. Still won 4-12.

How did he lose? But I think what he's worried about is Tom never being remembered as a patriot ever fair enough i mean i guess i think bruce arians doesn't get enough credit for how he's handled the whole tom brady situation now he made it all about tom like hey we're doing whatever tom wants to do yeah he was publicly he would criticize him early on especially if he made bad throws or things didn't happen but then he also like all he did was pump tom up and take his ego out of it and i think some people need to if you look around the league if you know that like hey we're it's a quarterback driven league if we have a guy that is possibly the goat let's just let him have the reins this is what we're doing here and i think ba deserves more credit for that and you

might be speaking for a guy you were jumping off docks with there just a second ago but i think what happened in tampa with tom in the tampa bay buccaneers with what tom came out and said like oh it's nice to know that there's another way of doing things every quarterback that was potentially in a situation that they were not exactly thrilled with that saw what was going on with patrick mahomes that even saw what was going on with jared goff and the rams before they paid goff and they were loading everybody up around them that caused a ripple effect around the NFL that I think we will have to, you know, kind of see the fallout from for the next couple years.

Russell Wilson, at the time, Deshaun Watson, who else is going to happen there? Obviously, with his legalities, we'll check in. We'll have our boots on the ground. We got our boots on the ground to find out how that whole thing's going. Hopefully, justice is served one way or the other there. And then, obviously, with Aaron and everybody saw what happened with Tom.

Now could have done this when Peyton went to Denver and they gave him the entire keys to the fucking building, the office, the city, everything. You know what I mean? But I think with Tom happening here and how everybody knew how New England was with Bill and how they had success. And then also seeing success when an entire organization buys in around your quarterback I mean it is we're gonna see that AJ to your point I think we're gonna see it continue to go like hey we got a guy we should take care of him if not he should very justfully so be I'm out of here I won't go somewhere else it seems like it's turning more towards like the nba where the stars have the power and you know like hey we're gonna craft it around them there's only a couple though like nba there's what one two guys every team and some teams have three to four i mean really there's

only like four guys five guys in the league okay so like what pat mahomes aaron rogers tom brady who else russ russ is up there well and who knows what's going on in this city deshaun yeah if he you know because deshaun before the very very very widespread i mean that was that was huge but before that the amount of stats that were coming out about what he led the league in and how he did and everything like that i think he was a guy without all the legal issues that are definitely severe and definitely deserve some real attention without that. I think he's potentially one of those guys, but I think there's only like four or five, five,

maybe six at the most at any given time. Don't you, AJ? Yeah, I think you're, you're right. And I'm going back to the show yesterday. We had Ian Rappaport on. Remember Ian said, he seemed pretty confident that Deshaun was going to play this year. And I don't know if he said play for the Texans, but he seemed pretty confident. I was like, I don't know, man. We're two weeks out barely, and we have heard nothing from either side. So how could he feel confident that Deshaun's going to play this year?

Yeah, and we pressed him a little bit, like, have you heard anything? He was like, no, just, you know, with this. And he's starting to post again, and M Mula Gates is putting photos of him up there. And he's saying he's going to play. I was very startled by that. I'm like, how? Like, this has to be the fastest interstate lawsuit proceedings in the history, then, if that's going to happen. And I don't think Roger Goodell necessarily.

He said a suspension or whatever. Well, a suspension can't happen until they know what happens, right? And that maybe in the past they would have just kind of done their own due diligence. But then the Ray Rice situation happens and other situations happen where more evidence kind of gets overturned later and later. And the NFL kind of ends up holding their shit in their hand almost. I don't think Roger Goodell wants to do that again. This is a very – I don't know. Whatever Ian's saying has to be coming from a place that knows more than the rest of us, right?

Has to, AJ. Yeah, I mean, Ian is – he is dialed in. He has his ear to the ground with every agent out there, every somebody in every front office, players. He has a ton of sources. So, yeah, there's stuff going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. Eventually, I guess we will, but they better take care of it quick i mean the season's starting soon when you think of all these situations what's aaron gonna do in green bay what's houston gonna

do with the quarterback position hey we have deadlines coming so something has to happen now he said multiple teams are still interested in him too right and there's no way a team would be willing to trade for him unless they had assurances that like he wasn't either going to wind up on the commissioner's exempt list like they they would need to know like hey this is all going to go away and he's going to be able to play the first game right well he's on the commissioner's exempt list right now right i think so i think he is which just means it's like it's pending like it just means, hey, we're checking things out, I guess, right? And then Florio. And I think what you're saying, I don't know if Florio is. Dr. Florio, as Gumpy calls him.

Hey, Gump. Hey, Gump. U.S. last night put on a show against Martinique. We got a guy in the 6-1. I saw that. They look good, man. Canada on Sunday night. That's the one to win the group.

All right. Hopefully, we'll bring in our studs to put alongside that young bunch I can play. There's a couple guys on that team that stink, but we got a couple guys that are real good there congrats to all of them by the way getting national team appearances that was my dream as a child so congrats to all of them getting a chance to play and put on a performance but what i think florio put out something that there should be i don't know if it was about him or somebody else but it's real this was happening with antonio Brown we never really heard from Goodell on what his thoughts were and I think Goodell was legitimately waiting for the off the field stuff to get settled and then he made his announcement and there was

really no communication so nobody knew what was going to happen was he going to get suspended was going to get this and then once there was a little bit of clarity on a situation then teams got interested then the Buccaneers got interested with Deshaun. Like, will the commissioner have to say something and come out and say, like, this is where we're at. He won't be able to do this. We're still investigating. There's still a lot to go through.

So we don't know how many games we should suspend him. He's on the exemption list. Like how, I don't, I just don't know how that all happens in three weeks. I don't know how that all happens in three weeks, especially with everything else going on in the world, especially the Delta Stream. In an SI article from two days ago, it says the league

could place him on a commissioner exempt list, so they have not yet. Wow. But if you're the Eagles or the Dolphins, if he's out this year and you get to see what Tua and Jalen Hurts are, that's almost better. Then you can make a trade if he does in he's out this year and you get to see what Tua and Jalen Hurts are, that's almost better.

Then you can make a trade if he does, in fact, not play this year. Yeah, but then what happens if midseason? Right. Also, if they stink, then there's no credibility for trade value to them. Sure. Well, I guess, hey, Pat, Connor, I need you guys to pipe down for a quick second. We're going to take our first break of the show when we get back. I don't know if you've heard this, Pat.

There's some absolute stud former players that are talking about what they would do in the current NFL. And they think their numbers would skyrocket. So we may chat about that a little bit afterwards. We'll jump out to the five-hour energy phone line. Don't call it a hotline, right, Pat? Phone line. No, hotline is something else. Hotline means you're definitely getting through.

Phone line means maybe. Yeah, we're waiting for that 5-Hour. Or we're waiting for the hotline sponsor to step up, step to the table. So if you're out there and you want to sponsor the hotline, we're available, right? Yeah, but I mean, not for nothing, 5-Hour Energy has paid a lot of fucking money to get on this. No, Five Hour Energy is great. We love them. They may even take over the hotline.

We love them. They may take over the hotline soon, but we'll be right back. We'll chat about some of that. We're also going to talk about some colors. Hey, listen, AJ, you can't come on this show wearing that suit, swinging around the unduffable the way you are, and then just start selling stuff. That is not, listen.

Trying to bring some revenue some more revenue i know you have a ton coming in but hey you can always don't need it don't want it don't want it unless it's the right people you know we don't want to oversell this thing and work with people we hate but aj i'll tell you what with the way you look i think this guy can get a billion dollar deal done a thousand percent he might be on wall street tomorrow oh my god i didn't even think about is this the wolf of sports talk right here? Oh, my God. AJ, thank you, man.

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He's fun to watch. We can't wait to talk to him. So, ladies and gentlemen, Trey Boom Boom Mancini. Yeah! How you doing, man? Are we allowed to call you Boom Boom or is it Boomer now? What is it? Where are we with this?

Whatever you guys want. Either one. All my college teammates from Notre Dame call me Boomer. But, yeah, the real nickname started as Boom Boom. So whatever one you guys like better, I'm cool with. Either way, man, you keep hitting dingers. We are fans. You can go by whatever you want.

But I want to get to that. So you're pitching. The guy who pitched to you, Restano, right? That's his name? Yeah, Chuck Restano. So Notre Dame coach. You played at Notre Dame. You played baseball there.

When you made the call to him, when you let him know that he was going to pitch for you, how excited was he? I would be pumped. I would also be nervous, too, because I want to throw you strikes. Yeah, he was completely taken aback. He was at a loss for words. He was on the verge of tears.

He was on a recruiting trip in the Atlanta area, and I called him about 20 minutes before my game. We were playing the Blue Jays in Buffalo, and I found out that I was going to be in the Home Run Derby, and I was like, I have to call him right now and let him know. Yeah, I called him, and I was like, I have to call him right now and let him know. And, yeah, I called him and I said, you know, I told you when we were at Notre Dame that if I was ever in the Major League Home Run Derby, you could throw to me. You know, I was kind of joking at the time when I said that to him, but I kept my promise and I said, you know, let's do it, man.

And he just couldn't believe it. He was so excited and, you know and he got to practicing right away. So how many home run derby type things have you taken part of in your young career? You're still such a young guy. Is it completely foreign to you to just try to hit dingers on every single shot when everybody's watching in the world? It was strange. So my last round of every day, maybe I'll try to drive the ball a little more,

but I'm not necessarily trying to hit home runs either. So it was, yeah, it was bizarre having the whole world watching you. There's no other sporting events really on whenever the home run derby is, but I try not to think about that too much either. But it was strange watching the world watch you take batting practice. It was crazy. It had to be exciting all at the same time. And you're

facing off against a guy like pete alonzo who seems like i mean with all due respect like an absolute maniac like aaron rogers describes bryson dechambeau as a maniac in a positive way okay it's a good thing that's why he is so good he seems like a complete maniac and he was dialed in like was he like that the the first time you saw him at the ballpark that night? He was dialed in. Yeah, like you said, he was pretty focused. I mean, he loves the home run derby. He puts on an incredible show out there. And it was fun to watch.

You know, I was just watching him like I was a fan. And he seemed to be the only guy that didn't really get too tired either. That's what I was most impressed with. In the last bonus round in the finals, I was completely gassed. I had absolutely nothing left. I hit five homers in it, but it really took everything out of me. And he goes up there and hits six in a row to start his bonus round to win it. And it was impressive. I couldn't believe it. Now with your swing, though, moving forward, there's always people always worry about that. Oh, is it going to mess my swing up for the year? I know there's some guys who thought it might get them back into the groove,

like if they do a home run derby, kind of get them back into feeling good back when they start playing again when they're on the field. But for you, is there any worry that it's going to mess up your swing for the season? Going into the home run derby, my swing wasn't actually feeling too good. I had a pretty tough June and had felt a little weird at times. So if anything, I don't think it could have messed up my swing that much more. So that was my thought going into it. It's nothing I thought about too much.

If anything, it was just such a cool experience and such an adrenaline rush and such an amazing night that, you know, I think it actually gives me a little bit of confidence moving forward in the second half of the season. Ty Schmitt's got something. Trey, you said it was, you know it was kind of awkward having everyone watch you. So obviously you haven't done this a bunch, but did you feel anything different with Otani out there? Did it almost feel bigger than it normally would? Or what was the surrounding circus around him?

Yeah, so he was the last guy to hit in the first round, and it was a little bit different. So everybody obviously, you know, cheered really loud whenever he got announced, but then the stadium felt completely silent, and everybody got out their phones to record him hitting, and, you know, all eyes were just completely locked in. It was just a strange silence that fell over the stadium once his round started. silence that fell over the stadium once his round started. He's just, you know, taken baseball by storm. Look at what he's done. I mean, it is absolutely incredible. And I don't even know. I know he's getting talked about a lot,

but I don't know if he even gets enough credit still for what he's doing. Being an elite pitcher, being an elite hitter, it's just absolutely incredible. Hey, so, Trey, we have the guy that's going to ask you a question next, COVID Cowboy Diggs. Tomorrow he has a huge celeb softball game where he has top billing. He's very, very nervous. Is there any advice you could give him? He's worried about striking out

two or three times. What do you think you should do to calm down? Dude, just swing for the fences every time as hard as you can. You're bound to hit it at some point. Even if you strike out your first at bat, keep going, man. Thank you, Trey. Thank you, Trey. He's got a question for you.

What do you got, Diggs? So I am a Pirates fan, so I'm very used to them being sellers at the deadline. Now, the Orioles, I assume, also probably going to be sellers at the deadline. Do you guys talk about that at all in the locker room? And with how well you've played and stuff like that, is it in the back of your mind ever that you may be potentially one of those guys? It's something I don't think about too much. But yeah, like you said, I've been a part of

the Orioles for five years now. And especially in 2018, we had a really big sell off at the deadline. And it was a strange day. Because that's when a lot of the guys that had been in the organization for a long time got traded. So I have been a part of a big sell off. And I've stayed every year. But it's still, you know, it's a little strange. And especially the closer it gets to July 31, you do think about's a little strange and especially the closer it gets to July 31st, you do think about it a little bit because your life can change a lot. You, you, you know, you're totally uprooted. You have to find a new place to live. You're playing for a new team. So that's a little strange, but it's something that I try not to think about too much at all. You know, I feel

like I'm going to stay in Baltimore, but you know, I think it does creep into some people's minds for sure. Hey, what's your relationship like with your manager and all the coaches on the staff? I ask this because there's such a difference and contrast between different sports, like, say, football. I played football. The coaching staff, everything, you only have 16 games in regular season, so everything is do or die.

This is it. Like, this game, it all means this. Now I go into a clubhouse before a baseball game. I understand 162 games. You've got to be kind of casual. You have to kind of pace yourself. Are the managers, like how much are you interacting with your managers and your other coaches?

Is there one coach that you kind of gravitate to? How does it work? Yeah, I've got a great relationship with our manager and all our coaches. You know, they do such a great job every day. And like you said, it's 162 games. So, you know, you obviously want to go out and win every single game. That's your mindset every day. But at the same time, that doesn't happen for any team.

So, yeah, it's maybe a little bit more of a relaxed feel, I'd say, than football where you play once a week. So I'd say like one week of our games is kind of equivalent to another sports, you know game and our hitting coach Don Long is you know somebody who I'm extremely close with he's been a huge influence on me throughout my career and and you know helps keep me grounded and and helps me keep my mindset where it needs to be. Gumpy? Yeah boom boom just to go back to the home run derby in years past they've done outs instead of the timer.

Would you have preferred the outs, or did you like how it was with it being timed and be able to have a timeout? I really like the timer, as a fan especially. I think it's a really cool format, and it can come down to the wire. And it did come down to the wire a few times. I mean, we had Soto and Otani go into a swing off, which was really cool. a few times. I mean, we had Soto and Otani go into a swing off, which was really cool. So, you know, I think for TV purposes, sometimes it can be a lot as far as, you know, trying to follow the ball and then the next pitch is coming in and things like that. But I think it's such a cool format and I really like it, you know, compared to having the 10 outs and then, you

know, you hit however many home runs in between the outs. So is it something like, have you been able to watch the TV copy of the Home Run Derby, and do you think they'll make any tweaks next year? Because it's true, you guys are hitting so many bombs, we can't really see how far they're going because you're already swinging on the next one. Yeah, I mean, I could see them maybe amending a couple things, maybe taking more time in between pitches, and then maybe they make it a four- or five-minute round, them maybe amending a couple things, maybe taking more time in between pitches. And then, you know, maybe they make it a four or five minute round, but you're not allowed to throw the next pitch

until that one ball lands. So there's a couple things they could do. I really liked it. But I'm not gonna lie, I was exhausted. I was exhausted. I was expecting to not be able to walk the next day. And I somehow actually felt pretty good so um i feel very fortunate for that but um you know to solve that issue as far as you know balls are flying all over the place maybe you have to wait for the one to land before the next pitch comes digs trey where are uh pitchers hiding the spider attack now that they're being checked every orifice on their body where's the new place that they're putting it they they are not able to hide it at all it appears um you know the umpires are checking them basically everywhere i saw i saw the first day that they were checking

things a couple pictures or like pulling their pants down um you know it was hilarious but um yeah there's nowhere to hide it it's a huge risk to take if you do try to hide it somewhere the only thing i can think of is maybe their hair, if they have long hair, but even that is super risky and it appears as though nobody's really using it now. Trey, when's the first time you heard of spider tag? This year. It's something I never thought about too much. I always knew that pitchers use some stuff to grip the ball and things like that. And I didn't really have that much of an issue with it, to tell you the truth, until I realized what spider tag was and, you know, that weightlifters use it to, you know, carry boulders and things like that. So I think it got a little bit out of hand.

But at the same time, I don't really have a problem with them using something like sunscreen and rosin, for example. It's nothing I thought about too much. I just knew they did it, and I was fine with it. But I just think it got a little bit out of hand. But if they could somehow, you know, moving forward, let them use at least something. I don't know if sunscreen and rosin is it or something else, but maybe they should have some substance that maybe they can use

to at least grip the ball a little better because the balls are very slick. What's up, Gunther? Yeah up yeah boom boom your teammate john means it's been cool to watch him grow turn into probably one of the top pitchers in the league how much has your team missed him even just on the mound or in the clubhouse while he's been out yeah we've missed him so much i mean john has just become a dude um in the league He's an ace. He's incredible. You know, every time he pitches, you know you've got a very, very good shot to win the game. And, you know, every team needs somebody like that.

And we really miss them. His no-hitter earlier in the year was one of the most incredible days I've ever had at a baseball field and a memory that I'm always going to cherish. So I'm excited that he's about to join us, you know, after this series. He'll join us in Tampa next week. So I'm really, really happy to have him back. Oh, the celebrity softball MVP has another one for you.

Trey, you talked about how quiet the stadium got when Shohei went up to bat for during the Home Run Derby. But correct me if I'm wrong. You got a standing ovation during yours. I mean, how that had to be pretty fucking cool, right? Yeah, it was incredible. Um, you know, I, I, I was so in the zone that I didn't even like soak it up enough, I think. But, um, you know, I, I took the time out with two minutes and seven seconds left, which is not what I intended to do, but I couldn't get anything going. So I, I stepped out for a second. I was like, all right, you've got to get it together and at least put a respectable round together and not make yourself look like a total courtesy invite um so i you know i got it together and rostano was just on the money and and luckily we put up a great rest of

the round so it was really cool after the round was over to hear the crowd and all the support it was a memory that i'm always going to cherish. It was just amazing. Did you have any moment before the Home Run Derby where you thought, man, I can't go out here and get skunked. I got to hit a home run. I got to at least hit one. You got to get on the board early. It did go through my mind. I knew that I was going to at least be able to hit a few homers,

but you never really know what it's going to be like until you get out there. Yeah, there were a couple things I was thinking. Don't whiff at any pitches, and then make sure you at least hit a few homers and make yourself look respectable. So, you know, luckily it went even better than I anticipated, so it was really cool. Are you swinging all out on every pitch there? Like, are you giving 100% using all your energy? So I was at first, especially with the adrenaline

pumping through me a little bit. And then after the timeout, I realized that I need to kind of calm it down a little and swing a little easier, reduce my effort level and almost take a second between every pitch. And I think that's what Pete did so well. I think a lot of us were kind of like, you know, go, go, go, swinging really hard, and Pete was never really in a hurry. And like I said, he didn't appear tired to me at all.

The guy's a machine, isn't he? The guy seems like an absolute machine, doesn't he? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I ran into a brick wall there. Hey, next year, though, I assume it's something you want to continue to do in the future? I would love to. I think if I, you know, one of my biggest personal goals is, and it's kind of alluded me at this point, even though I've put up some good seasons, is I haven't made an all-star game. And if I,

if that happens, then I would be happy to do the Home Run Derby again. But I think it would be under that condition that I, you know'd be in the game as well. That's a big goal of mine. Hopefully, if that's the case, I'll be in it next year or in the future. That's awesome, man. Hey, we really, really appreciate your time. Good luck the rest of the season, the rest of your career. You'll be playing forever. We will be

watching. You have an awesome story. Obviously, a good dude. Ladies and gentlemen, Trey Boom Boom Mancini. Boom Boom Mancini. He's a good dude, right and gentlemen trey boom boom mancini he's a good dude right yeah for sure like baseball players are fun like baseball players i'm sure you guys know when you look at the professional athletes in all different sports like baseball players seem to always be pretty relatable pretty down to earth and cool and chill and laid back i feel like especially compared to other professional sports i was you've obviously been in association with a lot more athletes than we have have you found that baseball players may be the most relatable or is there hockey as well i was

gonna say baseball and hockey because it's also like your how you came up so baseball player if you're a baseball player and you come up yeah you're you're grinding away you're playing all these travel teams whatever even if you get drafted first round you may grind it out in the minors for a couple years there's no guarantees it's so hard to make it so when you do that you're like living with host families playing a ball or whatever for a little bit football you don't have that you get drafted boom you're you're you know you're trevor lawrence you're starting quarterback day one for the jacksville jags so you're always the man and i think hockey is similar hockey they all go play juniors and live with these host families like

it's such a grind getting there I think that makes them more relatable once they get there actually staying relatable and stuff like that too is probably pretty tough and like staying positive like him I mean he's been on the Orioles like they basically fucking stunk every year he's been there you know and that's a long season to just be losing and losing and losing and traveling like so to like remain optimistic groundhog day yeah yeah for sure he's in a hotel in kc you could tell yeah right yeah that's every day pretty much and like man it's such a roller coaster when it comes to baseball of hitting like ups and downs and slumps and even when you're playing great and you're hitting the ball as good as you can, like, cool.

What are you hitting the ball? Three 50 during that time. He just said that too. He was like, you know, I was hoping to find my swing a little bit. I'd had a really cold June. So like, hopefully,

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I guess I know there's a thing out there. Foxy, I don't know if we have the graphic of the different jerseys that they're auctioning off for charity from the All-Star game. Yeah, one second. We know they list all the players in everybody's jersey. First off, I'm shocked that they don't go for more than this. I think some of them are going for $1,500, $2,000, all this stuff. And then the old Shohei Otani.

If you look for the bottom, say, okay, let's go. Up top, Fernando Tatis Jr., $2,500. Vlad Guerrero Jr., $2,000, which I think is a travesty. He's the MVP. Yeah, how is it that low? Jersey's ugly. I mean, an authentic jersey costs like $400 to buy that they didn't wear, right? Yeah. And then you go all the way to the bottom,

Shohei Otani. His jersey is at $111,000 $45,000 more than the next closest player which who who is it like who's who do you think is bidding on this tie no not a chance I might buy that fucking judge jersey for 860 oh you kidding 860 aaron judge i don't know like you said uh i mean if you buy like the replica all-star game jersey it's probably 350 400 because those blue ones were ugly as fuck you don't like those huh and they had like it was like the white ones i like it was like the henley too it wasn't the full button down baseball which we know you love yeah you know you got all your shirts in it i do i don't i don't like that look though when you look at them they just look weird

it's not even like the throwback remember the throwback reds like so i'm i grew up well no the reds just had the gray pullovers gray pants gray pullover like pete rose days people hated him at the time and now you look back like oh that's pretty sweet when you see them as throwbacks i think it's kind of cool but remember when the reds cut off did the cutoff sleeve jerseys yeah when they had griffey the gray was incredible pinstripes yeah they should change i mean teams that baseball teams especially if you're not winning you should probably do things like that like every two weeks baseball teams have so many jerseys dude and they have they don't have rules like when athletes okay so if you're in the nfl they are very very strict on

your uniform this is what your socks look like This is what your wrist tape can't go higher than this. Your towel can only be this length. Baseball, I remember I took BP with the Brewers early on when I was in Green Bay. And I was asking those guys, I'm like, man, you can just wear whatever you want. Like, yeah, one day I'll wear like 4X pants. Next day I wear skin-tight pants and pull them up to my knees. They can do whatever they want, it seems like. I'm like, don't you ever get fined?

And they're like, well, I'm talking to a 10-year vet. He's like, no, I've never really been fined. I'll do whatever I want. it seems like. I'm like, don't you ever get fined? They're like, well, I'm talking about a 10-year vet. He's like, no, I've never really been fined. I do whatever I want. That's your commish. That's Raj. That's your boy. You know what, Raj? Thank you for holding us accountable, Raj.

Thank you. Raj's holding everybody accountable. He wants it all to look good, look uniform, truly professional, a la me today. He had us in the jacket. What blew my mind, too, is that you guys, like you don't, you have the merch, but you only are allowed to wear it at the facility. Like you can't take like a Packers hoodie home. Well, each team is different.

That's team by team. You just got to ask if you want to get out of Green Bay. That's wild. There's no way. In Green Bay, I've said it a million times, they do things the right way. Like from everybody, Red Batty, he is famous as an equipment manager. I actually had people out in Tahoe when I was playing that know Red. Multiple people from different walks of life know Red Batty and T-Bone,

all the great guys at Green Bay and the guys and gals that work there behind the scenes that people don't really hear from or hear about. They're awesome. But, yeah, you don't want to be walking out with something if you didn't let them know. Don't take that Packers hoodie out, man. I would not want to be caught doing that. Other teams, they're a little bit more lax when it comes to things like that.

Are you surprised to hear that? Yeah. Yeah? Well, it's probably much different coming from Ohio State, too, right? Where I assume you got fucking geared up left and right. I mean, now they do. I'm not joking. We used to cut holes in our gloves to get a new pair.

So if you wear your gloves long enough, they start smelling like vinegar. They smell terrible. Goldy gloves. And so you could take them up to him like hey i need a new pair of gloves like no way bud no i don't see any holes in them and so i'm like are you serious so you'd have to go get some scissors make little holes in them and then they would question you and say you put these holes in no absolutely not but that was just so you're because if you wear those gloves that smelled terrible that you've been wearing

for like four weeks your hands your hands will not stop smelling like that forever it's brutal did you have to wear like the nike gloves or could you wear cutters or whatever you want oh no you gotta wear nike you can't wear cutters when it's college and nike is paying 70 million dollars to for you guys to wear all their stuff yeah that's why we couldn't spat you can't do anything you can't cover up anything because there's they are real strict about that stuff i'm surprised nike didn't come out with a spat or something like that. Well, they don't care. You used to be able in the NFL, you could spat your shoes, spat your cleats,

and if you even drew a swoosh on there, you did something to let them know, they used to be able to get away with that. You couldn't anymore because they want people to see the newest and latest shoes and their models of cleats. What's up, Nick? AJ, for a stooge like Evan Fox, what does spat mean? Spat is when you have your cleats and you tape around them. A lot of times people will spat over their cleat if they roll their ankle or something.

A lot of people do it for looks. I did it my whole time because I wasn't with Nike, so I could spat. Once I spatted from the beginning of my rookie year, I'm like, well, I have to now just because it feels good. I wasn't going to go back. It's off of the old dress shoes, right? Are those dress shoes called spats or whatever the white on top makes your shoe feel very tight like it feels great you're locked in and i never liked i never taped my ankles so i i would my spat was like elastic tape that i would do myself so it was definitely not

for support it was just because i liked the way it felt and looked a lot of people do it for support though i spat on the last turkey bull i said i might do tomorrow. You should spat for sure for your All-Star game. Probably will. I wasn't allowed to spat in high school, so I remember I got to my first Ohio North-South game I played in, and I was so juiced to spat my cleats just for that game. Then I couldn't do it again until I got to the NFL.

But in baseball, you can do whatever the hell you want, apparently. Who was it? Mickey Tettleton. Remember he used to button? He had like four buttons down.key tettleton remember he used to button he had like four buttons down his damn his belly button was sticking out he had so many buttons down on his jersey was that mickey if we put a picture of me my lord aj mickey tettleton yeah mickey tettleton all-time legend i can't believe that was the most random fucking his jersey though you remember certain things from a kid growing up. I think it was his jersey.

Are you saying he was on the Reds? No, he wasn't on the Reds, but he may have buttoned two buttons out of seven on his jersey. His last year was 97. I don't remember. I'm old. 37, but maybe I... Yeah, he had a big impact on me.

All right, we're going to take one call before we get to a quick break here. But here we go. Let's go to Andrew in Wisconsin, if I can dial this guy up. Andrew, what's on your mind, bud? Hey, what is up, guys?

Shout out to you guys for always making me laugh. Shout out. And just wanted to talk about getting some better fucking national broadcasters for football. Like, we have MLB local regional broadcasters. You talking NFL or college or what? What are you talking? Mainly pro.

You know, you get the national guys that come in. They see the team maybe once a week or once a season. You got to get some more regional guys, kind of like the radio. I'll mention some names I know AJ will know about, Larry McCarron and Wayne Larrabee. Yeah, they're great. For the radio broadcast. I think we should get some more guys like that for national broadcast. Yeah, well, I appreciate the call.

I mean, you should, and those guys you mentioned are legends in Green Bay. But when you listen to a team's radio announcers, they are homers for that team. They're cheering for that team. That's why it's fun to listen to. If you're, for some reason, listening to the game, you want to tune into your team's broadcast because they are with you. They're living and dying on every play.

But you can't do that with a national team. You can't have one that's diehard biased for one team. The rest of the country doesn't want to hear that. For this guy, if you want, sync up your radio broadcast with the TV. But most of the local radio broadcasts for the NFL games are – I'll listen to the Steelers one, and they're great guys or whatever. But it's too Homer. I can't even listen to it because it's too Homer.

Who is the player? There's usually a former player that does the color commentary. For a long time, forever, it was Tunch. Tunch Ilken, baby. Yeah, and he's recently had some health issues, so I don't know if he's doing it anymore or how long he's going to do it. But Tunch has been great for a long time. But they are very, very Homer.

Yeah. And they should be. They should be, and it's hard for the national broadcast. That's why Joe Buck, he always says like everybody thinks joe buck hates their team which he doesn't care about your team like he's not i think joe buck got a bad rap because of mccarver really i think mccarver buried a lot of teams and then once mccarver left joe buck just took it on the shins i mean it's a no win for those play-by-play guys i feel like if if you're too excited for one team then the other team obviously always think so hopefully play-by-play

people don't get worried about that and don't sit there and think about oh this fan base is gonna be very upset if i show too much emotion in a touchdown call like i don't know i i think people should be happy to know that there's a good chance the national broadcasting crew doesn't care at all about your team also they're watching them more than once for sure because anymore like you know the packers or the either we had troy and we had troy and joe on every game i felt like that's what i mean like you know like there's certainty like romo and those guys like they they will call the same teams you know four or five times a year yeah exactly a lot of home yeah and it used to always be brady on cbs too and even too. And even those lower crews definitely get used to calling bangles and jacks.

Oh, yeah. They get those, too. Because I think that's only broadcast 3% of the country when you're doing those regional Fox or whatever. I mean, you're still calling an NFL game, so it's awesome. I'd love to work NFL games someday. But, yeah, I guess it would be hard to to not be a complete homer especially if you're a former player and you're you have coaches on different staffs that you played for your buddies are playing I in that why Peyton Manning they claim he might not want the Monday

night gig he doesn't well he didn't want to have to speak ill of Eli right now Eli's done who knows what happens with Peyton right yeah I don't know I don't think he'd probably rather run the team though then yeah you look at Monday night you look at the damage jason whitton did to how good he was as a player one year doing monday night football is it really worth it well i mean i mean jason i know but i'm just saying like say it doesn't go well for payton which i imagine it would i mean payton would i think payton would be awesome i think phil rivers would be very very good on tv but even people are turning on romo now. Everyone loves Romo. Now everyone's done with him. It's like

anything, though. If you watch somebody enough, you're going to grow to dislike them, probably. Well, I think with Romo, too, a big part of that is like, oh, that guy's making $18 million a year. That's a big part of it. He's making $18 million. He better call out every single play pre-snap. He better predict every single thing happening. I'm like, well, no, it's not. It's not how it works.

I think Romo's still doing all right. I think he's not too worried. How many years was his deal? Did you talk to him about it this weekend? Shockingly, I did not see. I mean, maybe I walked by him once or twice, but he's out there. He's a real guy. You couldn't jump on his high horse while he's riding by you this weekend?

I don't know what that means. But he's over there hitting out of the bunkers on the range, which I've never even thought about in my life. Hey, let me practice some sand shots. I'm going to get plenty of sand opportunities out on the course when I'm playing 18. Did you play better than you thought you did, though? I mean, I looked at the scores. The first day, you shot like an 85, right?

I was like, oh, shit. Like 88, maybe 86. I think you went 82, 88. I don't think I shot 82, no. Maybe it was 85. I got worse as the three days went. I continued to get 82-88, didn't you? I don't think I shot 82, no. Maybe it was 85. I got worse as the three days went. I continued to get worse and worse, but I held off what could have been a complete disaster out there in Tahoe.

But, no, I didn't play. You know, you always have the delusion going in, like, man, I put three good days together. I'm going to put some points on the board. Are you guys playing from the tips, or do you have any idea? Not really the tips. It's not that long, especially with altitude. It's not about, like, length. You should have have any idea? Not really the tips. It's not that long, especially with altitude. It's not about length.

You should have driver wedge into a lot of the holes. Yeah, you just got to find a way to hit it straight. And you got to putt. It's really hard to putt out there. The greens are quick. There's different levels to the greens. What was it? The pin placement got you.

They moved on the pins on day two and three. I think that's what's – I mean, people would say something to me. Oh, well, you slipped on that one. On that drive, you slipped. I'm like, hey, buddy, I people would say something to me. Oh, well, you slipped on that one. On that drive, you slipped. I'm like, hey, buddy, I would love to blame it on me slipping, but I think I slipped almost every single tee shot, and that is not the reason that that ball is 600 yards into the woods left. But it will be a fun journey to try to get that to the ring.

It went 600 yards, though. That's what I said. Hey, I'm going to swing very hard. Bryson would have blamed it on him slipping. Bryson apologized. If anyone knows that, Bryson went out and said his driver stinks he was upset then the Cobra rep

came back at him which I thought was great and then Bryson apologized to the Cobra rep who I believe is the guy that caddied for him in the one tournament right oh really

that makes sense yeah he did that's because I know the Cobra rep stepped in when his caddy quit on the Wednesday before a tournament all kind of crazy stuff

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