The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 462 - Usain Bolt, Jagger Eaton, & The Keeper Of The Hall Of Fame, David Baker

Episode Date: July 29, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about the World Games and how the US is really starting to hit their stride. They also bounce around different training camps in the NFL and how Sean Payton isn't happy with the Michael Thomas situation and how he's going to miss several games with ankle surgery, how Mac Jones looks at training camp so far, Randall Cobb being back on the field in Green Bay, and much more. Joining the program is 8x Olympic Gold Medalist, 11x World Champion, arguably the greatest and most dominant Olympian of all-time, Usain Bolt. Pat and Usain chat about his career as an Olympian, his take on the Simone Biles situation, being one of the few in her position, his love for Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers, racing Tyreek Hill potentially, and whether or not he's still got the juice (25:55-45:13). Next, 2020 Olympic Bronze Medalist in Skateboarding, Jagger Eaton joins the show to chat about his experiences in Tokyo, putting on for skateboarders across the world, competing with a BROKEN ANKLE in the games, meeting Tony Hawk, and his thoughts on skateboard culture dealing with the drug policy for the Olympics (45:17-1:02:40). Later, the Keeper of the Hall of Fame, David Baker joins the show to chat about his life, his job, how Pat is actually in the Hall of Fame, and what it's like being all about the Hall of Fame, all the time (1:04:50-1:30:53). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello! Massive show today on this Thursday, July 29th, obviously. A lot of guests, a lot of good conversation. I can't thank you all enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes. If you enjoy this by the end of it, please be a friend and tell a friend. If not, which I don't think anybody's gonna not like today's show. I mean, maybe. It's a good one, though. But if you don't like this show by the end of it, please don't tell anybody. Just act like it never happened. Let's get to it.

We are one week and a few hours away from NFL football. Yeah! Now, obviously, it's not the regular season, which is good NFL football, and actual NFL football. And as somebody that got a chance to almost play in the game that is a week and a few hours away from today, the Hall of Fame game, it is nothing like actual NFL football. And I think we all realize that about maybe halfway through the first quarter

of the Hall of Fame game. But let's not bury that yet. Let's get excited that NFL players will be back on a field one week from today let's get excited that we'll get to see legends of the past and the NFL gets celebrated and get immortalized forever in Canton in the hall of fame I'm excited about I hope you are as well training camps are happening all over the place but before we get to all of that I think we do have to make an announcement we have three guests on today what three. What? Three? Hey, we have been chatting during this show about, we went out

and allegedly found great bookers. Okay, here we go. Old standard, if you will. Okay? I didn't know how I felt about the whole booking world. We have dabbled in it in the past and it had been terrible. Normally, the only way the show works

was with me actually texting people or Zito somehow having a connection with somebody that he went to high school with that did a robbery with somebody that potentially had a baseball player friend that was roommates with somebody that was in there zito and the connections we have in this room have helped us but whenever you have a daily show okay you can get to a point where i think you get sick of booking people every single morning whenever you wake up. I got to that point. Fair.

I got to that point. All right? And it was, you know, is it me getting soft? Yeah. No. Tim McAfee,

whenever he was truck driver, those hours were the same every single goddamn day. That's right. Okay, he didn't get to a point where he was like, I'm going to take off

my morning route, all right, and then I'm going to go do the afternoon. He was also a moving truck driver, a mover truck driver, by the way. So you're talking about like the two worst jobs, basically, put together. Truck driver, the amount of dedication and time that

you have away from your family, isolated, alone on those long hours, like, very thankful for all the logistics people out there and the truck drivers out there. Thank you so much. Backbone of America. Stay out of the fucking left lane. Please. Thank you. You know how heavy your truck is. You know that this speed that you're,

this confidence that you're finding in your truck and your speed right now is strictly because you're on a decline. Okay? There's an incline coming. It's fucking Pittsburgh. All right? Get over there.

No big deal. But we appreciate the hell of the truck. Tim was also a mover. So he was moving places into the truck and then driving said truck across country then unpacking it and moving in again he moved four times for every trip he made you made thousands of trips okay so whenever you're talking about worst jobs of all time tim mcafee i think had it for a large portion of my childhood, Jay's childhood in there. Then he got into the wood business, everything like that. So I think him hearing me say, like, you know, I'm tired of waking up and doing one part

of my job that has made this show successful and kind of delegating that to somebody else. I think Tim is a little bit like, I ain't the fucking kid I know. I think there is a chance that Tim isn't thrilled about this. And to be honest, I don't know how I felt about it, especially as it was just weeks and weeks of failure. Yeah. Okay. Was the show slipping away? I don't think so.

But maybe it felt like we were not doing our listeners and viewers right. I didn't think we were doing them right with what we normally did, with who we normally got a chance to speak to and everything like that. And a lot of people have sent me positive messages that listen and watch this show, which I appreciate because there was a couple of days ago where it was very terrible. And I started to feel a certain way about people that listen and watch this show. But nonetheless, a lot of positive ones say, hey, you don't need guests, dude. You have a good time. I want to let you know we need guests. Let me tell you why we need guests. Yeah. All right. So whenever we're swimming in our conversations, OK, and we talk, by the way, not just in here, out there as well. If we can get a different voice in there and then we can pick a little bit and get some stuff out

of there. Boom. We're much better. Our conversations on the other side are much better. So I appreciate people that say you don't need guests or anything like that, or don't want guests. Very fucking nice of you. I don't feel that way. A lot of people don't feel that way, but some people have voiced that opinion. I won't let you know. I think we need it for, for our conversations afterwards. Whenever we get a chance to talk to who we're going to talk to today, I think we're going to learn so much that we wouldn't normally know. And I think it's an exciting time to be us. We got the walking, talking, breathing, living enshrinement of the hall of fame joining us, David Baker. All right. That's Dave! Come on! Woo! All right, that's from the Bookers.

Okay, I think he is probably doing a little press run. That's how we got him, because I think that's how these Bookers games play. All right, we got into the... Right. So that's going to be fascinating to see how that works out, because we are definitely going to fuck up one of those situations. Absolutely. I ain't reading a script for some company. No, no, no.

That ain't going to happen. I'm not going to play that game. And I think that could potentially be the problem on why we haven't had a guest for like three, four weeks here. But now we have not only David Baker. Hey, what? Jagger Eaton fresh off the skateboard. Here we go!

He's joining us in like 18 minutes or so. Olympic medalist. He'll be joining us. Silver bronze. He's still on podium first year of skateboarding over the Jagger Eaton. Now, let's go Jagger Eaton. I was watching him because skateboard had obviously just debuted in the Olympics, and I was fascinated as somebody who grew up in the, I think, the prime of the X Games era as it was being created.

I mean, I heard they're letting 10-year-olds in there now. So I don't know if that's the same X Games. Well, it's not. He can skate. Well, Jagger Eaton actually was in the x games when he was 11 yeah so this dude is a legend he's young he's now an olympic medalist and he's getting back in the skateboard game can't wait till he was listening to something while he was on the skateboard over there in tokyo can't wait to ask him what it was and just kind of you know invest into his life a little bit and what it was like being an olympian

as a skateboarder, which is normally like the outlaw community. Now you're in the Olympics. It's a big thing. Oh, yeah. And I was watching the – there was a special about it, and I think it was the head of the skateboarding Olympics guy. Okay.

Makes sense. If that was his title, by the way, Olympics would be much more relatable. That was not he's he was the one who was i think in charge of overseeing overseeing getting skateboarding in the olympics and at the end of the the video he almost tears up and says like he thinks a uh a board with four wheels can change the world or something like that and it was like pretty sweet it was a pretty cool thing because i think that although skateboarders have always been like outlaws and stuff like that,

I think they do have a little bit of like, Hey, we can kind of change the world type mentality as well. It's together. It's cool. I'm excited to talk to Jagger. He'll forever be remembered for the first time ever in Olympics, being a man who got the bronze and represented America out there,

which I think it's our sport, by the way, we created. Yeah. We, I think so. I'm pretty sure we created skateboard. Let's go. I'm not 100% sure, but I think we did. It, by the way. We created it. I'm pretty sure we created skateboarding. I'm not 100% sure, but I think we did.

It's a big win. I think we'll own that. I thought it was Australia. Did Australia win the gold or the silver? I don't think so. We created it, but we didn't win gold, so I don't know.

Last jacket. Tony Hawk invented skateboarding. We all know that. Okay, so we created it, but we didn't win gold, so I don't know. Last Jagger. Yeah, here we go. Hey, last Jagger. Here we go. We last Jagger. Tony Hawk invented skateboarding. We all know that. Bingo. And that's why he's still such a big part of the game.

He was over there in Tokyo, by the way, riding as a commentator. And I saw him because, you know, hearing in what – I've never skateboarded, believe it or not. Really? I just can't. I don't have the ability. I've tried. guys were going to skate parks for my school too it was like such a cool thing there was a skate park i guess like

25 minutes away somewhere else it was like a a big to do and all my little skater friends like oh it was awesome they were so kids everybody's there's music playing oh we're having a blast there was a fight but blah blah blah blah blah like that type of thing i'm like all right i'm going next time. So I was like, let me see your skateboard. I need to practice this. And for about a day and a half, I tried, and I just fucking couldn't do it. I'd get on there, and that thing would go.

And I just, whoop, gone, poof, gone. And they said if I would have showed up at that skate park, obviously, and I do that, I'm going to get laughed out of there. I won't one time. I got up to drop in, you know, because that was the cool thing to do. Everybody was doing it. Of course. Yeah, I just, dead, out of there.

Laughed out of the room. You probably sold, what, 800 cigarettes at that skate park? You probably made a lot of good business. I will say, whenever I did have my cigarette operation going on, a lot of my purchasers did arrive via skateboard. Okay. Okay, so maybe that's how I learned about all these things. And, you know, I guess as i would grow older and speak to other people that would be selling stuff potentially the conversations

you have with them often brief quick very positive i think that is how yeah i learned about so many things a lot the skaters oh we just got back from this blah blah blah you gotta come with us next week oh okay cool man have a good one that was just small talk to get to SIGs. Right. Of course. Oh yeah. And now, now I'm realizing that and I actually went, I probably was a big burden on that particular day. And then when I embarrassed myself on anything, they're probably pumped that I, I failed massively. Didn't want to come. Anyways, there's types of things you can kind of learn about and we don't need to talk about the bad days. Let's talk about the good days. Skateboarding is in the Olympics. Let's have a good time and talk to Jagger Eaton about that in about 14 minutes, 13 minutes or so.

And then also, since we are in the middle of the Summer Olympics, we'd be remiss not to talk about Mount Rushmore Summer Olympian of all time. Usain Bolt will be joining us. No way! Get out of the time! You shitting me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go!

No way! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Let's go. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Huh? Wow. This show. That's a big get. This show.

David Baker, can't wait. Can't wait. Can't wait to talk about the Hall of Fame. Can't wait to talk about what we're going to do with the Hall of Fame, the Hall of Fame game, what it represents. You know, how many more punters and kickers are going to get in there, Dave? You know, all these types of conversations. Can't wait for it.

Jagger eating this guy. He's going to be in a story. He's going to be in a history book. Come on, all these types of conversations. Can't wait for it. Jagger eating this guy. He's going to be in a story. He's going to be in a history book. Come on, Jagger. Jagger. Yeah, Jagger. Let's go. Well, Usain Bolt coming on in this conversation, I never thought I'd be having.

I'm very excited for this one. Can't wait. And especially in the middle of the Simone Biles situation that's going on with her mental health and all the pressure of expecting her to win every single thing she does. And maybe that boiled over. And maybe there was some doubt. And maybe there was some doubt. And maybe there was some loneliness for Simone. Because she's in a country with none of her family, no fans really.

I guess her team's there. They love each other, obviously. And I just, I mean, I don't know how we missed this. But she probably doesn't have a lot of trust in her coaches or anybody. I mean, there is. Just because of things that have obviously happened in the past that we don't want to talk about. But it became too much on the biggest scale of all time. Everybody saw that.

I'd assume Usain Bolt, I mean, I'm a casual in the track world. I mean, there are some people in the sports media world that know all about the tracks. Of course. All about the tracks. Okay, I've heard they know all about it. I do not. No. But every time I heard Usain Bolt was running in a race, I was like, yeah, he's fucking going to win.

Oh, and he's going to break another world record. I wonder if that was ever something he thought about or did he just try to remain oblivious to it and just keep it moving? How you doing? Keep it moving. It's not always easy to be at the top of the mountain, especially with the Simone Biles situation, kind of putting a spotlight on that. Aaron Rodgers talked about it yesterday as well. He's another guy that's at the top of the world in mental health. Some of these folks, he says, not always depression.

By the way, there's other forms of mental health whenever you can feel off a little bit i wonder if he just kept him moving all the way but he had to feel it at some point he was unbelievable eight-time gold medalist at the olympics 11-time world champion and maybe the most electrifying athlete for like a four-year period that i could not wait to watch do something that i could never do in my entire life I wonder I want to know too like when he really was like all right I'm done doing this because I still feel like if he was running this year like he'd be a favorite I mean obviously like he's older now and it's different but it's just like you look at him and you like okay I would expect him to still

you know be competing for a gold medal this year well and that's why we as casuals are so excited to talk to this. I think everybody would be pumped to talk to him, but you're right. My natural thought would be, oh, well, you sang Volkermann for the next 25 years. Because he's only like 33, 34. It's not like he's super old or anything. It feels like he's still in his athletic prime kind of. At Boston, Connor is also here. Can't wait to hear all your thoughts.

Australia, skateboard, maybe we'll have to fact check that we'll see how that goes uh a lot of head shaking no on the other side uh it was uh california his name was larry all right start out over one no big deal took a swing at it try to represent for down under you got to do uh-huh what you got to do but whenever you talk about that and we say like oh you say i'm betting on usain bolt i'm betting on usain bolt all the track people are like you absolute idiot uh tenth of a second change is such a massive change in the world of racing especially whenever it's quick races oh yeah that are short that are potentially less than a minute long or in track less than 12 seconds long, whatever. A tenth of a second, two-tenths of a second, a half a second might as well be an eternity.

And I think that is why, I mean, we'll ask Usain. Hey, we assume you could still win. I think he probably thinks to himself or somebody told him or he found out, like, no, no, no, there is, just like in the cornerback situation in the NFL, there is a window where your body is going to be able to do it 33 is that too old especially when you're usain bolt you're beating the world record every time you run i i think no but i would assume that the the track people and he have a very different opinion i think he tore his hamstring during during a relay in 2017 i think that's why he ended up. Yeah, you could rehab. And he was probably, how old was he in 2017?

30? Yeah, roughly, yeah. 29, 30? Man, I wish we would have seen him forever, though. That's too bad, because I assume if he thought he could win, he'd be running. Do you remember when he would just get in there? And he was the most casual human of all time.

Yeah, messing around with the guy standing behind. You see some of the other people that are raised again just so scared absolutely scared to death about what's about to happen they get down there and they just had to look at a guy that was just dancing yeah it's like oh this guy's around and then as he this was towards the end of his career i assume because at the beginning of his career when we learned about him he never had a look of worry when he was looking at everybody else he would be laughing and smiling and then hands would be the hands straight out i can't believe shout hey shout out to the bookers yeah talking about bookers all right so we got a big time show let's talk about what's going on the nfl though today sean payton not happy about the michael thomas surgery uh time i believe sean payton addressed it we

assumed immediately and by we, I mean me, because I'd seen this in the past with maybe previous guys who had gotten a surgery, rehab, rehab, rehab, rehab. You get to a point where, for some reason, either something was missed or not properly fixed or healed or bouncing back quickly, whatever the reason. Could be a multitude of reasons. And then they have to decide, like, okay,

we can get another surgery right now to fix this, but if we keep waiting, it's going to get too long. We're going to miss too much. And then they make a decision to do another surgery. Then they start the rehab process over as opposed to just lingering on and never getting right. I thought that was what had to have happened with Michael Thomas, one of the best wide receivers in the NFL, coming into a season after last year

was a bit disappointing. I didn't even lose to Tampa. Tampa's going to be awesome. Drew Brees is gone, and a season after last year was a bit disappointing ending to lose to Tampa Tampa's going to be awesome Drew Brees is gone and he was hurt last year so you would think that that would be the case Sean Payton addressed the Michael Thomas situation yesterday it doesn't sound like it is a kumbaya Donner it doesn't sound like it's a hey we're all in this thing and on the same page together it didn't seem like that that at all. Go ahead and run this thing, Foxy. Well, look, it appears we're going to have to spend some time without him. It's disappointing.

And we'll work through it with the other players that are here. But the surgery took place. And obviously, you know, we would have liked that to have happened earlier than later. And quite honestly, it should have. Can you explain? I mean, was there a lack of communication in between? No, I'm going to leave it at that.

There was no lack of communication. I'm going to leave it at that. So does this mean that Michael Thomas didn't want the surgery, thought he could rehab it back, and then they realized, like, no, no rehab would be able to fix whatever you have. You were going to have to get surgery, and it was just a disagreement, a miscommunication, a I feel I don't need surgery. I can rehab through this.

My physical therapist feels like we have a plan that we can get through this, and the Saints go, well, we think you should have a surgery, and is there a mistrust there? Is there just two differing opinions that ended up coming to a head, and now Sean Payton visibly frustrated with the situation maybe or was there a fuck you fuck you situation that led to this whole thing i i think this is something to watch especially because michael thomas is so good at football and the new orleans saints are going to look very different this year you would hope that although kamara is there you'd also have your number two guy basically on your

entire offensive weapons fit. Or at least saying something like, hey, you know that we have to cut damn near half of our entire team. Like, we need you week one, no matter what. You gotta be ready, because we don't have Sanders anymore. I think I saw their third wide receiver suspended

for something. And we got a new quarterback. Like, if you're not on the field, our offense might be fucked. Now, with that that hindsight's always 2020 okay so you have to remember that whatever Michael Thomas potentially thought was going to work or his physical therapist or whoever's body guru right I mean in New England there was a lot of people that got through a lot of injuries due to a body guru without getting surgeries or coming back a lot quicker, who is now down in Tampa Bay, by the way, look for that to potentially be an impact as well. There are alternatives to surgeries and a lot of guys and we're viewing this right now with the vaccine conversations.

A lot of guys don't like anything happening to their body. They literally monitor everything that goes in, that goes out i mean there is some guys that are like that and if you can stay away from surgery and just rehab something back there's something now me hey go ahead go in there and fix it get it done that is how i feel that is how i feel a lot of people probably feel like hey if you need surgery get surgery but there are guys and uh the general bob carpenter alluded to this when he was on tmz live uh today there's a lot of different thoughts in an nfl locker room that's because in the nfl locker room there's a lot of different backgrounds there's a lot of stories there's a lot of different personal

situations that have led to people believing different things the nfl locker room is the most diverse workplace i think maybe the world has, legitimately. I think maybe that the entire world has. And in there, you have a lot of people that believe different things. And I don't know if that's how Michael Thomas is. I don't know anything about Michael Thomas. But there's a lot of different people in locker rooms that feel that they can fix things with their body naturally as opposed to doing anything else.

I don't know if Michael's like that, but that has to be the reason on why he didn't do a surgery. If Sean Payton saying there was no miscommunication, we wanted him to do a surgery. He must have either felt believed or had somebody tell him we can rehab through this. It's amazing what people can do now with massage therapy, with diets, with diets with everything with stretching that pliability stuff there's a lot of things that can do the body well with all the uh i think it's the oldest form of uh nutrition actually i think is what is basically being brought back and modernized and everything and that's just how some people feel that has to be the case but sean payton is

pissed and i know why i mean that team is much different without Michael Thomas playing well in the field yeah it'll be very interesting to see what this means for him going forward too because last year him and Sean Payton kind of got into it he was talking about how he wanted like a new contract and you know then you start the season like this he's gonna miss potentially what six to seven games like I don't know how this ends but I feel like the it's kind of like sowing the seeds for michael thomas to be out of new orleans eventually and is that a decision that was made by michael thomas business right hey drew breeze isn't here anymore you know and allegedly which i think i misread from an outsider looking in michael thomas said he played at the end of

season because he knew this was going to be drew breeze's last run yeah so he knew it was going to be drew breeze's last run so he went out there and played even though he was already hurt and was definitely hurt because he wanted to give one last go for drew i did not know that but that was a report i think from his agent or yeah drew's wife i thought even said that that the reason that he came back was because of everything that drew was going through so i did not know oh okay the okay. So Drew's wife was the person that leaked this information? I thought she also, when she came out to talk about everything with Drew and all the injuries he had, the lung was something that we didn't hear about. She said in that, I believe, and I could be wrong.

I'm already 0 for 1 today. That Michael Thomas also, because Drew was going through that, he just powered through. Not knowing that skateboarding started in America and not in Australia is not something that you should carry any further okay sure that is something that a lot we didn't even know and we actually thought you were potential well Ty didn't know yeah we we kind of did we had a pretty good feeling we openly expressed that and you won against us we're like okay maybe that whole thing but Drew Brees's wife might have been alluding to something that was broken or maybe she was the one that broke the news.

But, yeah, that was fascinating to me. And then Sean Payton interviews pregame and postgame on primetime games. I think it was Monday Night Football. And it might have been Russini. She was in the crowd interviewing Sean Payton down on the turf, obviously, before the game. And something happened with Michael Thomas. And I remember him giving an answer that made me go,

oh, he does not like Michael Thomas. Like, Oh, it seems like there is a Michael Thomas situation going on. We have to monitor that going forward. I think, I think that is something we have to watch. That is one of the guys, if he was to somehow get on the market, and I'm not saying he is wants to be, or potentially will be, if he gets on the market, there's going to be a lot of people that are like, get us Michael Thomas.

Now I don't know about his, we'll be the one handling his medical shit, but we'll be the one saying if you need surgery, get surgery. But Michael Thomas is a game changer and a game wrecker when he's on the market. What was it, two years ago when he was fully healthy, he set the – Broke the record. Yeah, broke the record for receptions in a season. So, like, he's a fucking stud, obviously. But, I mean, I don't know.

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Hammer down, boys. Join us in studio. A.J. Hawk is out and about for his wife's birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Ms. Hawk. Ms. Hawk, as you do recall, is the wife of A.J. They are a famous couple they are they were spotlighted when she had the half jersey of brady quinn and aj hawk that's right also that jersey is now hung up in the attic next to aj hawk off camera every single day his favorite moment and also i believe her favorite

moment of their entire relationship absolutely he said he touches it like the play like a champion today every single time before he comes on air. I've never met his wife. I'm sure she's pumped that we're speaking of her right now. But I think AJ said that that was not a cool moment in her. She was not exactly thrilled for that entire show. Lady Hawk did not enjoy that? I guess Lady Hawk did not enjoy the way that whole thing portrayed.

I think she is kind of like a low-key person. Yeah, they thrusted her right into it. She got shown like 15 times during that game. I don't think she loved that necessarily. Ladies and gentlemen, you might have heard us delaying a little bit there because it was probably our fault. It definitely was our fault. But there is now a connection live with a man whose name is synonymous

with the summer olympics and will be forever captivating the globe with his incredible speed out of jamaica 11 time world champion eight time olympic gold medalist fastest human to ever grace this rock floating through sky, ladies and gentlemen, Usain Bolt. Let's go, dude. You're muted. You're muted. You're muted. Hold on. I think it's us.

We might have you muted. You might be muted. That was a good moment. He and I, we just had a shared moment. Yeah, that was good. Good start. Yeah, he understood. I understood.

It's probably our fault. It might not be. It may be him. Is he back? Is he? Am I good? Yeah! Yeah! start yeah he understood i understood it's probably our fault it might not be it may be him is he back is he am i good yeah there he is how's it going you saying how's life good i'm chilling i'm chilling um i have three kids so it's been crazy this morning okay well i appreciate you i appreciate you being dad of the year and everything like that um I try, I try. When the Summer Olympics happen, I think all of us who were alive and had brain capabilities during your era immediately think back to how electrifying that was.

Will you watch the Summer Olympics? And do you have, obviously, great feelings towards the Olympics at this point in your life? Yeah, definitely. It's never going to miss me. It's something that's always going to be close to my heart. You know, I mean, I've done so many great things in the Summer Olympics, so I'm excited, you know. I mean, I'm watching it now. I haven't got a track and field to watch a lot, but I'm excited for the track and field to start. Whenever we saw you run for the first time, you have to think about a little white dude in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania or I grew up in

Pittsburgh Pennsylvania go through West Virginia watching you just blow by people was so fascinating because everybody you're running against is literally the fastest person not in their town not on their street not in their neighborhood in their entire country and you were just blowing by everybody at what age did you just start outrunning every human you were around in Jamaica, and then when did you know? At what age did you know? For me, I started at 10. From my start, I was just really good, you know what I mean?

But when I got to, like, 15, then I was like, you know, track and field is something that I'm going to do. That was when I was just killing it everywhere. And how does the track and field work you race against everybody in jamaica and then somebody says like hey we got a guy we should send him into other meets around the world at what age did you kind of get introduced to the world stage for me it was actually i was playing cricket i don't know a lot of people from states don't even know what cricket is you know yeah exactly i was playing cricket but i was a fast bowler so i

was running in on my coach that my cricket coach was like you know what exactly i was playing cricket but i was a fast bowler so i was running in and my coach that was cricket coach was like you know what you're kind of fast you should try running you know i mean and i was like all right and that's how it started really you know i mean and then i just continued and over time i started trying out for the jamaica team and then we started traveling to different like small islands and then we started traveling overseas and stuff like that. Did you ever lose? Not a lot, though. For a few years, I did stumble a little bit, but after that, I kind of got it back. Okay, so I think you're the perfect person to ask this question to then, because every

time you stepped on TV, whether it was the Olympics or other track races that we were watching because you were in it, I don't think that has happened since and I'm not sure it'll happen again. Hopefully it will. Hopefully somebody will be able to do that. But as soon as the name Usain Bolt was put along something, it was like, hey, that dude's on tonight. Like, hey, we gotta go watch that guy. And it was always

expected for you to win. Like, hey, Usain Bolt's gonna win. And with what Simone Biles is going through right now, with every time she steps into an arena, she is expected to win. For you, it never, obviously, you continued to succeed through those pressures. But was there any moments before races where, like, hey, everybody on earth is expecting me to not only win, beat the world record, and smash everybody.

Did you just try to block that out, or how did you handle those types of pressures? For me, it was always tough. I think I learned that at a young age you know i mean for me when i was younger all i was thinking about was trying to make everybody else who wanted me to be great proud you know i mean i was like oh i gotta make jamaica proud oh i gotta make my family proud you know i mean i gotta do this for my my friends this you know i mean it was always for everybody else and when i figure out that I was always doing, I was also doing it for myself, it became easier.

You know what I mean? Because then I was like, why am I putting so much pressure on myself? I want the same thing they want. They want me to smash records. They want me to win. That's the same thing I want. So for me, as long as I was prepared for the moment,

it didn't stress me out that much. But at the earlier age it bothered me for a while because I don't think there's a lot of people that can talk to Simone right now right you're you're probably one of the only humans that understands what Simone what she's going through yeah it's hard when you put a lot of stress on people if they I think she didn't understand at a young age but now that she's there the pressure is going to be so high you know i mean so high because everybody's watching you know i mean she's bringing the flag for america so everybody's going to be seeing so i know

and understand the pressure she's under you know i mean are going through uh so uh my hat's off to her you know i mean to to know that she's been going through some stuff and she just needs to take some time, you know what I mean, recover, recuperate and get back. And we all hope she does that. And thank you for talking about that. And thank you for coming on the show, by the way. There is no reason, there's no reason you should be on the show. And I want to let you know, we are thankful. We are very, very thankful. Jim, in those Olympic games, you were the superstar right amongst Olympic Village. What was it like around Olympic Village?

We just talked to Jagger Eaton, and he said it was awesome. He said everybody was cool, getting to meet everybody. What was the Olympic Village experience like? For me, it was fun. You know what I mean? It's always a different energy meeting different, at least from different sports. You know what I mean? But I didn't go out a lot but i tried to venture out and just to meet people you know i mean but it was hard for me because everybody wanted a

picture everybody wanted a conversation so for me i kind of just stayed in as much as possible but it was good it was a good vibe you know i mean it was different because everybody's in the same place you know i mean so when you retired because you I think you tore your hamstring in a race in a relay race or something like that did you were you eyeing potential the end of the road when that happened or did that tell you did you get actual closure here or do you feel like you kind of got shortened on your your did we get gypped out of seeing more Usain Bolt is what selfishly is what I'm asking. No I wanted to retire after the Olympics. You know what I mean? I remember I wanted to retire after 2016. I was like, you know what?

This is it. That was my plan to retire. And then all my fans were like, no, bro, you can't just leave us like that. You know what I mean? Give us one more year. You know what I mean? And that's why I came back and did it one more time. You saw what happened. Pulled my hamstring.

It was not nice. Was that your first big injury? Because I feel like track, that is a massive component of it, is staying healthy. And I don't know how you guys do it. That was my first big injury on camera. I've always gotten injuries in training and stuff like that, but I've never really gotten injured in actual competition. Hey, did you get into all that unique shit for rehab?

Did you do a lot of insane stuff? Not just the cupping, but the acupuncture. Did you have to do all of that? Because I assume with how explosive you are, that you have to take care of your body. Did you do any of the insane stuff? Did you bathe in

wine or anything like that? I've heard some weird stuff. No, no. no for me it was it was just all about and i saw i have scoliosis which is the curvature of the back so if my core is not strong that's when i have issues with my hamstring and stuff so my main focus was like on strengthening my core and my hamstrings but i did do acupuncture over time, so, and that's painful, it's no joke, bro, none whatsoever, so I had to do that, but most of the time, it was just focusing on strengthening my back and getting my core strong. You saying? Yeah. Hey, come on, hey, come on, come on. Yeah,

you're just showing off now. Huh? I don't have three kids, so I still got time to fuck around. You know what I mean? I heard you were an elite soccer player. Speed kills matchups. Speed kills matchups in every sport. You obviously are Usain Bolt, so that is something that changes. And I think whenever you were running, there was a lot of football conversation. Like, hey, let's get this dude on a field.

Who knows how much he could stretch a defense? And then I heard you want to had soccer dreams was there any other other sports that potentially kind of uh baited you in there or were you ever close to maybe doing something we we talked about um football for a while but back then it was vicious sport you know I mean people were taking people out left left right and center back then and I knew if I showed up with my speed that's what's gonna happen you know I mean these guys are gonna be waiting to take me out so I was like you know what I don't want to try that but if it was now I would have tried because it's not as crazy as it was back in the day you know I mean are you a big

football fan America because I thought Yeah, I'm a Green Bay Packer fan. Aaron Rodgers, man. You don't know how happy I was when I opened my Instagram and saw Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau Field. Why did you become a Packers fan? Is it because of Aaron or what is it?

No, surprisingly. Alright. So, in soccer so I'm in soccer I'm a Manchester United fan you know I mean and I'll never forget we didn't get a lot of games when I was younger so the first game I watched what was with Aaron Rodgers back in the days and I saw him and I was like you know what this is gonna be my team and that's how it was any other team on the day that was playing good the first game watched, I would have been supporting. Hey,

you picked the right horse. Hey, you picked the right horse. Yeah. You know what I mean? Exactly. Exactly. Because we're looking good.

Cobb is back. So I'm excited about that. So we're looking good this season. Last season we were great, but this season we're looking good. You saying you made the NFC Championship last year, okay? Yeah. Oh, heartbreak. Don't talk about it.

It was a sad day for me. We shouldn't have lost that, though. There's no way we should have lost that game. Well, there was a couple decisions made right before half there. There was a lot, exactly. A lot of bad decisions in that game. You see, in speaking of a big play, and we have a diehard Packers fan here as

well who is getting... He was super pumped to talk to you, and we'll get to that, but did you see Scotty Miller? Obviously you did. He scored that touchdown on fourth down right before half there. He's very fast. Tyree Kill, very fast. There's a lot of conversation in the NFL of

who's the fastest. Have you ever got into that game at all? Me and Tyree Kill got into it because he's a G of conversation in the NFL of who's the fastest. Have you ever got into that game at all? Me and Tyreek Hill got into it because he's a Gatorade sponsors athlete also. So we got into it one time. We're sitting down, we're talking. He was like, yo, you could take me. And he was talking blah, blah, blah. But then I went to the combine one year.

And if you pull, if you go on the net right now, I ran 4-2-2 in my sweats and some pitru. You got no chance. None whatsoever. Hey, did you see, you know why? Because one primetime game, they were talking about Tyreek Hill's speed. It was like either his rookie year or second year. It was a primetime game. And they put him running next to you on the track.

And they were like, look, the start. It was the 200, I believe. Look, the start, they're the same there. And then you pulled you on the track. And they were like, look, the start, it was the 200, I believe. Look, the start, they're the same there. And then you pulled away towards the end, but they were trying to showcase Tyreek Speed. And I think a lot of us were like, we got a fucking guy that maybe could catch it. You seen both in the NFL. I did not know you ran a 4-2-2. That really

happened? If you check it out on the internet, you'll see it. Hey, you would have been a great wide out too, man. I know, I know, for sure, for sure. And I think I got good hands, so that would be good. Man, the Usain Bolt Foundation is unbelievable, by the way. We've been looking into it here. Just giving back.

I think you donated a maternity ward for a hospital in the Usain Bolt Foundation. Laptops to an entire school. I mean mean you are absolutely crushing it you're you're the the right hero man it seems to be it's a really cool thing it doesn't happen often I try man because especially in this pandemic a lot of the schools in the rural area they didn't have like internet and stuff like that iPads and like printers and stuff just to get the the information out to the kids so for me that was my focus most of the the lockdown just to try to get kids so they didn't fall behind so when school actually

opens they're still on the same page with everybody else you're a good dude you saying we're gonna donate we can't wait to continue to help here's ty schmidt he's a packers owner shareholder owner here yeah jacked up to know you're a fan but hussein i've always wondered uh like at what point when you were getting ready for an olympics would you like really gear up and like you know kind of go zero dark 30 if you will into it like what was your diet like do you do you get to like have days where you kind of just you know you don't have to be a complete robot and keep your body the way it is like how would you prepare going into an olympics and when does that that period start for me so we have like most of the time we have tries like a month

before the games so for me like a month and a half before actual tries that's when i kind of shut things down and try to just focus for those the rest the next two months. That was when I really got serious and made sure I didn't go out. I stayed at home. I slept a lot more, watched exactly what I consumed and stuff like that. So it was like two and a half months before the actual game. We just – we should have done this beforehand. We just went scouring the internet for factoids about you here as the show's going on. This one just got sent in.

You ran your second 100-meter record in 2008 with your shoe untied. That was on purpose, or that just happened? It wasn't on purpose. It wasn't on purpose. It was on purpose. It just got untied. When did you notice? Did you even realize, or no?

No, no. It was after I stopped running. People were talking about it, saying, yo, I could have gone face first into the track. Yeah, by the way, that's on the internet. That would have not been nice at that pace. Yeah, you would open up your Instagram. You would open up your Instagram and all you would have seen is you just, bah, bah. And then, by the way, for you falling, it would have been for every good team that loses.

Bah, bah. It would have never. And by the way, that's why, it would have been for every good team that loses. Bah, bah. It would have never. And by the way, that's why you're Usain Bolt and others aren't. You can do that with your shoes untied. Did you plan the first world record to go ahead and just chill for the last, what, 20 meters or whatever it was? Did you plan that out in advance or was it just? No, bro. For me, you know, you're working hard all season long.

You know what I mean? You're pushing yourself. For me, when I looked across and I saw that I was going to win, I was like. So that's just my reaction. You know what I mean? I was like, yeah. And I beat my chest. I was like.

I was just happy. You know what I mean? I wasn't thinking about anything else. I just thought I was going to win. And everything has paid off. So I was just happy. See, because I thought you were doing it. Okay, we'll be able to do this.

We'll put the brakes on her about 20 meters this time and then anything else after that year anything else you see me do it and most of the time I thought about it I'm the man you know that I thought about yeah you saying there's a character on the internet that we've become sort of curious about, Chet Hanks. He uses a Jamaican accent all the time. Is that allowed or should we tell him like, hey, Chet, you can't fucking

do that anymore? Is he Jamaican? No, he's Tom Hanks' son. Yeah, he's Tom Hanks' son. Oh. Yeah, I know. He's kind of cool, though. I know who you're talking. It's cool, though, man.

He has a vibe, you know what I mean? We allow him. We allow him. It's not bad. It's not bad, so we allow it. Hey, Jamaica is like the, as soon as you think of Jamaica, you just think like super good vibes. Now, I've seen the movie Shottas, okay,

so I know there's a lot of other things that potentially go down in jamaica and kingston and everything like that but the overall vibe is like good vibes good is that is that basically the feel are you still in jamaica you live in jamaica full time in jamaica yeah yeah and you took a lot of pride in that huh just chill people anybody comes to jamaica you know besides anybody comes to jamaica they're like it's those nice people, chill vibe. We're the type of people who just want to have a party and just have fun,

you know what I mean? Just relax. Always on the beach, drink some coconut, that type of vibes, you know what I mean? How about, so I have been to Jamaica.

Good vibes, good times. Smoked on some Sha'Carri Richardson. How did you, how did you, how did you, how did you stay away from that? I asked Jagger Eaton this, who's a skateboarder he was just on because the skateboard community is obviously massive into the cannabis culture and everything like that. Jamaica and track in general.

I didn't even know that was something getting tested for until I heard about Sha'Carri's story. Like that's just something you got to like, just commit to and understand that it's there I assume and how do you feel about all those rules as soon as you as soon as you start track and field you know I mean as soon as you go professional that's the first thing your your agent or your coach let you know like listen these things are on the balance especially like simple stuff you know I mean you know I mean it's like don't take this pill don't take that don't smoke this because it's on the balance you know i mean so they've tried to make you aware of everything at the start to make sure you don't get into trouble you know i mean yeah and they do that in the nfl too and people still get caught up and shakari obviously made a mistake she owned

it and admitted it but it's so stupid that they test for it that doesn't make you a faster human just in my eye but there's a lot of countries, from what I've been told, that I guess do not enjoy that weed is potentially available. There's a couple of dick-tanners around there. They're in the Olympics. They're not having it easy, Usain. You can't laugh at that, okay? Go ahead, Diggs. Usain, do you ever head down to the

Jamaican training facility and open it up and let the boys know that you still got it? No, no, no, no. They know. They know. Hey, you still run? Still run or no? Yeah, I still go to the track a few times.

Not a lot, but I still go to the track. Gotta stay fit, man. Gotta stay fit. How old are your three kids? My sons are like three months, and my daughter is like one year and three months oh so once they get older though by the way hey once they get older uh-huh hey we're gonna have to dust off yeah all over the place right now she's all over the place hey i assume you are as well not only you're doing great things with your foundation you represent the olympics in

jamaica in beautiful fashion thank you so much for stopping by man no worry boss no worries fun man you're the best ladies and gentlemen ladies and gentlemen i don't want to have to pivot to another conversation because that is a big conversation and that is right in our bread basket right now we're going to hop right out of what our comfort zone is and what people would like to hear us talk about and we're going to dive into olympic action let's go ladies and gentlemen joining us now is an olympian is a podium stander, a bronze medal winner in the first ever go at skateboarding in the Olympics

from Arizona. He was once 11 years old and competing in the X Games. Now he's vibing out in Tokyo and winning medals, ladies and gentlemen, Jagger E. Yeah! What's going on, everybody. What's up, dude?

Hey, listen. All right, man. You guys do this, right? Yo. Yeah, you guys. The pose is so good. Yeah. Thank you, Jagger.

I just want to make you feel fucking comfy, you know? I want you to feel like you're at the skate park right now just having a good conversation after winning the Olympics, you know? I'm feeling good, Jag. I just want to make you feel fucking comfy. I want you to feel like you're at the skate park right now just having a good conversation after winning the Olympics. I'm feeling good, man. I'm feeling good right at home with that stance. Okay, cool. It kind of hurts. I've never been one that has been able to stand on a board

that has wheels on it for whatever the reason. I'm 33, 34 now, and the X Games were very popular. Skateboarding was massive. Tony Hawk Skater came out that year, and I've never been able to do it. I always had a lot of respect, though, for those who can. Now that it's an Olympic sport, I mean, it feels like skateboard has evolved into, hey, we're a big, big deal. I watched this segment, and the person that oversaw the Olympic Skateboarding Committee said

he thinks that a board with four wheels can change the world. What were your thoughts on being like a representative of skateboarding for the entire world this past weekend? It was awesome to watch, Jagger. Yeah, you know, it was a huge opportunity for me and not only for the skaters who are really competitive and want to compete for their country like I am, but also for the world of skateboarding, for the culture of skateboarding, for both sides of the skateboarders that want to film street parts like Thrasher Magazine and that culture,

but also ones that want to compete. I grew up in a family that was extremely competitive. Both my parents were Olympic-level gymnasts. This Olympic dream kind of has always lived in me. And, yeah, to come home with a medal is just surreal you know like it's just crazy usa had to be on that podium yeah absolutely and thank you by the way yeah thank you thank you jagger service for united states out there pal in tokyo uh you were vibing where were you it was awesome because i think all eyes were on that first uh kind of go and you were in

there in the the uniforms were cool I think it was like a good take I think it was skater enough but also corporate enough to kind of make all parties happy with what you guys were wearing I think you looked awesome you were vibing hard though what were you listening to and what was your mindset going into this is it the same as every like X Games at 11 is it the same same mindset going into the Olympics, or is it different? Well, I'll tell you one thing about the uniforms, man. If I ever wear a tank top again, I got to put some sunscreen on my shoulders because that Japan air burnt me to a crisp.

Oh, no. That's beautiful. Yeah, man, the music I was listening to, I was listening to new rap and old country music and like just like going back and forth. Like I know they're polar opposites, but like they just like kind of created this like nice cocktail of calming and like and just like I need to like get into it. Because it was so hard to really get in to being aggressive and competing heavy without a crowd because I'm an athlete that feeds off the crowd. So do you normally have music in, or are you normally feeding off the crowd and listening to the crowd?

Is this something that's different for you? Is this standard, and do you always have a little savage and a little soothe with the rap and the country music? Is that always, or is this just an Olympic cocktail you had to find? You know, it's kind of an Olympic cocktail I had to find um you know it's kind of an olympic cocktail i had to find if i'm gonna straight up with you it's hard because i was mixing like charlie daniels band with playboy cardi and i'm like this is just weird dude but it just worked out i don't know um but for me when i skate there's always some sort of music um most contests i do compete even with crowds.

There's music over the speakers. But the music at the games wasn't really what I could get hyped to. So I needed some more. I needed something else. That's hilarious to think of somebody trying to pass the aux cord at the Olympics. Hey, this ain't it. This ain't it. We need something different.

boxcourt at the olympia hey this ain't yeah this ain't it we need something different um a question about the olympics that was obviously spotlighted through shakari richardson and then i immediately thought of it while watching the olympics back again because i knew you were going to come on do you think the jeopardy there the future of american skateboarders or skateboarders in general in general in the olympics is kind of uh maybe a little bit problematic because the dope marijuana testing like hey i am somebody who enjoys the vitamins heavily and i think i've had numerous skater friends i'm not sure i know any of them that don't smoke copious amounts of cannabis is that was that a problem or for anybody in the skating world for the olymp Games, and how often do they test for that?

You know, I'm honestly really kind of unfamiliar with this topic. When this goal came to me on the table and I got the chance for this Olympic journey, I put everything away. It was just done. Like, I just became obsessed with this one goal in mind. And I think that all of us you know in skateboarding you know our culture is really based around that and um i think that for us athletes now to get put on this stage and kind of legitimize skateboarding i feel like it's really good for the sport i think so too i think a lot of people watched it that wouldn't normally

watch it they might get turned off by it and then watching the way it was set up. Did you enjoy the, sorry for being maybe completely ignorant on the situation, but the best trick and then the run and then that being mixed and then taking your top four, like a poker hand almost. Do you enjoy that setup? Is that how it normally is? And if you look back on what you did, is there anything you'd like to do different? Yeah, I do enjoy that format. I think it's really dope because it gives every skater in that final a different opportunity. Like for me, right, I feel like I'm a really strong run skater.

And for the best tricks, I really couldn't go as heavy as I wanted to because my ankle's broken. So it's like I had to – I kind of really had to focus on my runs and dial my run scores in and then just hit two tricks on the five tricks after the runs. So was your ankle – did we know this? How come that wasn't being talked about while you're – hey, this son of a bitch right here has got a broken ankle. What? Look at how much ankle movement, the way is involved i mean it's like maybe the most important uh ligament you or what a joint you have in skateboarding is is this something that was well known are you gonna

get surgery to fix this what is gonna happen now hey man i i was raised to mind my own business and not gloat so i i i just went there i had the opportunity to go and that's all i wanted and everything else is everything else is history now damn broken ankle it's wild olympic podium man good for you hey jagger good for you dude good for you man the boys have a couple questions for you go ahead connor yeah jagger uh past mentioned you were 11 years old when you started in the x games uh when you were beating the shit out of older guys there, were they kind of pissed at you? Like, hey man, you gotta calm down, you're only 11?

Or were they kind of promoting you up and glad that the sport was growing? Yeah, you know, the best thing about skating is that when the older guys see a young man come into the sport and start to compete, they do give you a little bit of shit man come into the sport and start to compete there did they do give

you a little bit of shit but at the same time they like take you under your wing and teach you the lessons that you need to compete this level and i think that's like the best part right like i remember so i remember so vividly when i was a kid competing x games that like sheckler when i was a kid was like super super kind and then Danny Way was super cool Bob Burnquist was always super dope and just like kind of learning from them and taking it from them because like do you know how gnarly it was as an 11 year old kid watching Bob Burnquist do 12 foot backside indie sevens on mega ramps and I'm like sitting here barely making the gap because I weigh 75 pounds I I was just like, dude, I need any piece of advice you could give me right now.

I think I, Sheckler had that reality show, right? Yeah. Like just wildly handsome and very good. Oh, yeah. Just like, hey, seems like it's just that's kind of what happens in the skateboard world. Good for you. Good luck. It's going to go great for you.

I know it. Good for you. But Sheckler was also very young in there, right? Whenever he started. What is it like going to school do you not go to school after that so like at 11 years old you're in the x games and what do you walk into fifth grade like what do you do the next day and how does that go to is everybody like uh you're the coolest human owner you get uh yeah my school situation was pretty

gnarly as a kid uh i got i got kicked out of middle school for missing too many weeks of school uh and then i i dropped out of online high school and got my ged and um and this is all at the time when i was traveling i was traveling so much and i was learning about the world through seeing the world and my dad and my parents felt like that was that was you know one of the coolest lessons i could ever be taught and so we kind of just put our priorities straight and especially when this Olympic journey happened we knew that every single moment I had on this earth I need to be put into making this goal happen that is amazing uh we were talking to Jagger Eaton a man who got a bronze medal in the Tokyo Olympics just a couple days ago when'd you get back home i got back home about two days ago now yeah what was it like over there cardboard box beds and all

that shit was it terrible or was it uh we hyping it up as being bad is it not that bad oh everything was so amazing besides the beds like everything was amazing the athletes were so cool the olympic spirit was so alive and it was just the course was amazing the weather was hot but at the same time i'm from mace arizona where we'd be skating like 114 dry heat so it wasn't as bad as where i'm from and um yeah i mean dude it was like it was just everything i wanted more, man. It was epic. Man, good for you, Jagger. I'm happy the dream came true in a beautiful fashion. I can't believe your middle school kicked you out, by the way. Bullshit.

Absurd. Yeah, I hope they're sitting on that now going, oh, well, a guy was going to go win the goddamn Olympics, and we said, no, we don't want that. Hey, don't give them any credit ever. Don't give them any credit. They wanted you to fail. Go ahead, Ty.

Jagger, Pat talks about growing up in the era where like the X Games really exploded. Is that like now for when you guys go compete in that, does that still have

the same juice that it once did? Because it seems like it's kind of fallen off a little bit. Like, do you think now people, now that skateboarding is in the Olympics,

will people kind of dedicate more time to like that's the ultimate goal as opposed to getting like an X Games gold? Yeah, you know what? X Games kind of pioneered all this. And so that's kind of where they have – they kind of have that history chip, you know? And plus with the Olympics, I mean – and this is the best part,

and this is why I think it's so good for skating because you guys know our culture and you guys know skaters are rebellious and all of these things, right? It's like it's not really a sport. It's more of an artistic, creative activity. And I feel like there's so many eyes that are on skateboarding right now that it's just going to blow up more skate contests, more video projects, more athletes, more kids who actually have a goal in mind as a kid. When they start, they can go out as a kid and say, I want to go to the Olympics because when I was a kid, I didn't have that. All my whole goal was just making the X Games.

So I feel like X Games will always kind of have that legendary card. Yeah, whenever he was a kid, he just wanted to make the X Games. When he was six, it was going to be a long road, kid. When he was seven years old, they were like, hey, you're a fucking long way to go. Eight years old, you better start skating more, motherfucker. Seriously. You are not good enough to make the X Games. When he was 10, they were like, maybe next year.

Hey, congrats on finding a goal as a child and then making it happen, what, in six months? As a child. When did you first get on a skateboard? I first got a skateboard when I was four years old. Both me and my brother got a skateboard for Christmas, and my dad built us a minirep in the garage. So it took you seven years. What a loser.

Jeez, dude. Figure it out. What a loser, dude. It took you seven years to make it to the X Games. What were you doing? Were you guys just fucking around the first couple years you got it, or what? Ugh. All right.

What's up? Sorry, you cut out a little bit. My bad. Well, I was just saying, how come you didn't make it by the time you were eight years old? Yeah, what the hell? I heard a 10-year-old is in the X Games now. I don't know what that's all about. You're going to have to, I guess, little Jaggers going to have to catch him.

I just fully blew it, dude. I got to do better. I mean, let's not talk about the negatives. Whenever he was eight years old, not qualifying for the X Games like a fucking loser. Let's talk about Jagger winning a bronze medal at the Olympics and sleeping on cardboard box beds. Whenever you were, I assume, Tony Hawk. Did you get a chance? You've known him probably your whole life now at this point. He's still very involved in the entire sport.

He was over there in Tokyo. That massive moment of it being in the Olympics, him being one of the pioneers, and also on the call, I think. Was there a cool moment there with Tony? It feels like he is one who has dedicated his entire life to skateboarding now at this point. Is there any cool moments with tony or is he somebody that maybe isn't in your realm or in your world at all oh no dude there's so many incredible moments with tony and i and tony deserves to be there more than all of us i mean tony has pioneered competitive skateboarding i mean you look back

at what his dad did for him and putting on contests and now him being able to skate the park there and like we all like watched him skate park while we're skating street like it was just it was surreal having him there and one really cool moment was i was actually scared the first day to skate that big section and tony came skating over with his phone and he's like hey jagger hit a switchback overkirk on the rail and i'm like oh god i cannot say no to tony right now and i go all right you know what let's do it and i just ran and like sent it it was it was pretty funny it's actually the first big trick i did on that rail was it when he was filming was he filming it because i saw a video of him like skating and filming as well it feels like he's like a kid almost like in the it is awesome to kind of watch

that thing yeah he was yeah he was filming he was filming like me and nija and jake and he was filming all of us but it was just epic because you know what i felt like the olympics did i felt like the six-year-old and all of us were just like screaming like we were all just like fanning out by the opportunity that we even have the chance to put our wheels down on these courses and like it was just like so epic all right dude i gotta go tighten my trucks all right i'll talk to you later man all right dude hey where's the beach at bro well let me hop on go do these all right hey hey what do you got today are you gonna get on a skateboard again are you trying to catch up to the time? Tokyo time change is insane.

It took me like 10 days. I was waking up like 1, 2 a.m. for like a week straight. Are you still in the middle of that? And what's on the plate next? Oh, I am fresh in the middle of jet lag right now as we speak. But what's next for me? Well, I'm just going to chill and beat my dad in golf probably a few times in arizona and um yeah man just relax now it's time i need to i need to i need to rest my ankles

about to be better and just take some time yeah it's about to be better after winning the bronze on a broken yeah jagger your life is wild are you great athlete, huh? Golf, everything else? You play everything else as well? Well, I was the kid that got golf clubs and shoes and everything when I was 15 for Christmas, and I hated it. Yeah. And then when I was 18 and realized that I've broken too many bones and I can't skate almost every day because I'll destroy myself is when I started really loving golf because I can get that mental aspect of it going. Yeah, I think we all kind of, athletes athletes I think, normally when they're younger, this is terrible.

What are we doing? I'm here all day. It's long. It's boring. And then as you get older, it's like, oh, this sport is awesome. This is incredible. It's hard to do and take care of. I assume you'll master it in the next couple of years like you did with skateboarding when you started at four and competing in the X Games at 11. Ladies and gentlemen, bronze medal winner in the Tokyo Olympics, Olympic medalist, Jagger Eaton. Congrats, dude.

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is doing i apologize i'm overdressed i should have worn my tank top well listen if you wore a tank top i think people will be asking if you want to get back on the field i got a chance to see you up close and personal david baker whenever whenever we had the Hall of Fame game. And then obviously there was the pain issue. You came into that locker room to tell us like, hey, here at the Hall of Fame, we love the players. We look out for the players that were literally the only entity that is 100% for the players. It wouldn't be right for you two guys to go on the field and play tonight or whatever. It was very, very professional, very gentleman of you. And you were standing next to me while delivering that speech.

And I remember going, well, can we get this guy out of the head of the Hall of Fame and get him on our goddamn offensive line? That's what I was thinking the entire time. Mr. Baker, you've done a hell of a job with the NFL Hall of Fame, sir. Well, thank you, Pat. You know, that was kind of my worst day and my best day at the same time. And I've never really talked about this publicly, but, you know, when we, you know, when we canceled that game, it was frankly a painful decision, but it was an easy decision to make because our first tenant here at the Pro Football Hall of Fame is to honor the heroes of the game. And if we can't keep you safe, we're not honoring it. And I don't know if

you recall, but we had a whole lot of angry fields, fans. I'm sweating through my suit out there. It's like 100 degrees. I have been on media. And what the coolest thing was, we were going to still have Aaron Rodgers was kind enough to talk to people. Oliver Luck talked to people. You guys lined up so that we could at least give the fans something. The fans booed me.

I mean, they booed me. And they should have booed me because we weren't playing the game. But the coolest thing maybe to happen in my career was I looked back and all the players who had lined up, I don't know if you remember, but they were plotting the decision that was being made. Yes. And I had a son that played in the league for eight years with Atlanta. He was not a punter or a kicker.

He was a lineman, okay? Left tackle for Atlanta, Sam Baker. And I kind of finally got home that night at about 2 o'clock, and I'm still sweating. And I put my phone down, and I'll always remember it kind of buzzed because I got a text. And my son had flown home. He just landed at the airport and found out what happened. And he texted me, says, hey, dad, he says, just landed. He says,

I got 50 texts from NFL players who respect the heck out of what you did. Yes. And it is about you guys. It is about keeping everybody safe. So I'd like to think that was both my worst and best days in one day. Well, I want to let you know, as a player, it was your best day, I think, because it was literally – I didn't know that was your decision, by the way. I thought other people were potentially making that decision because I remember going out on the field, and I think at that point, Aaron was already down on the field. There was already groups of people having conversations around the field,

and everybody was like, okay, now who's going to make this decision? Because there were still people that wanted it to happen obviously because it's a big deal but you stepping up for us I think the players will never ever forget it we're very thankful for it and the fans that booed in the moment hindsight look back and say hey good move let's talk about next week though Dave hey hey we got a big week coming up where are you at right now I know you're zoom call in Hall of Fame, but is everything, is the hay in the barn already? Do you have any more work before next week's big festivities, or what do we got to figure out?

We're going to have the first full stadium for football in 18 months. Let's go! It's going to be on Fox, the Cowboys and the Steelers, and then we've got the Gold Jacket dinner the next night. We've got the fifth biggest parade in the United States in this little place, Coquitin, and then we've got the ens Jacket dinner the next night. We've got the fifth biggest parade in the United States in this little place, Coquitin. And then we've got the enshrinement for the Centennial class,

which was going to be last year, 20 guys for 2020. And it's an incredible class of Hall of Famers, undoubtedly the best ever. And now we've got the class of 2021 that will be enshrined on Sunday night. And this is going to be special. I truly believe, Pat, that it's going to be one of the greatest gatherings in football ever. I've heard about some of the parties that are being prepared. I'm not sure if you get any heads up on those beforehand. But Jim Ursae actually said, brother, do whatever.

He said, they're asking me for DJs. They're asking me for this. And Jim Ursae is like, for Peyton and Edge, do whatever the hell you want. Do you know about the festivities that are happening afterwards? Do they have to run that by you, or is that all kind of private? You do whatever you've got to do. Well, those are private parties, but we have the other stuff. It all coordinates together, certainly with the Canton Police,

the Sheriff's Department, the NFL Security, and the FBI. But it's a good time. I mean, it really is, I'll tell you, a cool event. I always felt that the best Super Bowls were at those small cities, like Indianapolis. That was a super cool Super Bowl because the game was almost bigger than the city and it merged together. That's what happens in Canton.

And we've got Paul Tagliabue being enshrined, who was a commissioner for a long time. So all the people that built the league are coming to this. It's going to be a really special time. I'd love to have you here. If you want to, you can stay at my house. Wow. Oh, David.

Wow. Hey, the head of the Hall of Fame's house in Canton, Ohio, is probably pretty nice. Don't give him any chances. I guess all the hard work he's done. I mean, this guy's made a lot of big time decisions and his house is probably big. All right. I think I got to.

All right. I think I have. That's something I have to do. Have a sleepover at David Baker's house. I think I have to do that. I will follow up with you on that. But let's talk about your job, because we said this as we led in here. But it's real.

You are the walking, talking talking basic depiction of the hall of fame of the greatest league on earth whenever you show up everybody's like oh something you're like santa claus for legends when you show up at their house uh some dream came true and for nfl fans when we say it's like oh something's happening with a legend here something's going on is that a lot of pressure do you understand that or do you not view it that way at all listen i think it's the greatest job in the world. And I take it very seriously. I mean, when I go to Burger King, when I pick up my food at the window at the drive through, the lady goes, am I going into the Hall of Fame? It's kind of like being Ed McMahon in some respect, the old publishing clearance house.

But I do think, you know, we take it real seriously. When I go knock on the door, I've done it about 80 times now. And, you know, for Peyton Manning or for Edge and, you know, these guys, they're not thinking how much money they're going to make. They're thinking about their mom that drove them to practice or they're thinking about a dad that believed in him, wouldn't let him quit or a coach or teammates like you that helped them get there. And it's almost like you can see their entire career flash before him and all i do is i tell them they're going to kent i i thank them for all they've done and they're going to do for the game and then lastly you know i say that we're going to guard their legacy forever here at the pro football hall of fame that bronze bus will last for 40 000 years here and by the way i want

you to know this pat um it's not just the Hall of Famers that we guard their legacy here. You, having played in the league for eight years, have an archive here. And when you come here and stay at my house, I want you to come to the Hall of Fame. We'll pull your archive and you'll see what we got. And you can add to that archive. So that 1,000 years from now, your descendants can come here and look at this

and say this is what it is and i truly believe i know you have a lot of fun with it and we're kind of the guardians of the history of the game but i'll tell you people don't understand that we all think that peyton manning or uh troy palomalo or pat mcafee that you fell out of bed great and not one of them did. And not one of them did. You know, not one of them did. They had to battle. They had to fight. They had to go through injury.

And the values that you relied on, the commitment, that time when you felt like you were bigger than your own self because you were part of a team and part of a group. We've seen that come into play with soldiers and police officers and fire officers and teachers and moms and dads. And I really believe that those values, it's kind of this ecumenical church of football. It is bigger than just the entertainment of the game. And the entertainment of the game is a lot of fun. But our job is to give you, we have a thing, the good people at Canton,

you know, Canton's done more. There's the NFL's done a lot of good for a lot of cities. But no city in the world has done more for the NFL than Canton, Ohio, where the game began in 1920. And by the way, that was in the aftermath of the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 and 1919. Now, 101 years later later we're starting again but they raised 12 million dollars pat and um what they're doing uh what they've done is build this park a two-acre park called centennial plaza and in that park there's these pylons for each every decade and we have the name of 25 25 474 players who played in the first century of the NFL, including Pat McAfee. Well, wait, wait a minute, David.

So I'm in there twice. I'm in Centennial Park and I'm in the building. You've got an archive and then you've got a place downtown. And your house. And my house. I want you to use the wastebasket for the beer can it's hard for a kicker sometimes because they you know it's sometimes it's wide right yeah well the punt two is could be a problem but the um david baker the the by the way very

cool how serious and i think that is why the Hall of Fame is held in such high regard. And I think the fans love it. I mean, any time a player retires who played for a long time, if somebody says, hey, this guy, the immediate speculation is, is he Hall of Famer or not, which is the ultimate goal, ultimate dream for a lot of guys. And then fans who hold the Hall of Fame in such high regard come in and they're like, no, it's not the Hall of Good.

You know, like this is the Hall of Fame. You've got to earn it. So like, no, it's not the Hall of Good. This is the Hall of Fame. You've got to earn it. So I wanted to ask you, and it sounds like you already answered that question. You might already know what I'm going to ask you. The archive thing, I view the Hall of Fame, and you do as well, 40,000, as like a celebration of the game. For some of these players who maybe

will not get in or whatever, is there a place for them, aside from the archive? Like, for instance, Phillip Rivers. 17 years starting quarterback in or whatever. Is there a place for them aside from the arc? Like, for instance, Phillip Rivers. Yeah. 17 years starting quarterback in the NFL. That is mind-boggling. You ask any player, I think they'd be like,

that's a Hall of Famer. If a guy starts for that long and has won that much and everybody goes, oh, he didn't win the Super Bowl. And then Julian Edelman. Well, he had all those accolades in the Super Bowls and stuff, but he didn't have the regular season yards. It's like that whole – that's a conflict. That's huge on who gets in and who doesn't get in, especially with how important that place is.

Is that something you have to think about? Is that why the archive and everything has kind of developed? And will you continue to do such a thing? Pat, we work on this all year round. I mean, the minute this is running over, we will start working on next year. And that's not only players, it's coaches and contributors. It's seniors, and there's a senior committee. But let me tell you, there have been 330 million young men, and now women, by the way, that have played this game.

There's only 5 million that played it in college like you did at West Virginia. Oh, my God. There's only 29,000 who've ever been paid to play it, coach it, or officiate it, or administer it in the National Football League. And today, here at the Hall, we have only 335 bronze busts. So it's an extreme level of eliteness. Respectfully, it is not the Hall of really, really good. It's the Hall of Fame. But I will tell you that I truly believe that every guy who plays in the NFL, even for a

week, is a hero in his community. And he's a hero to some other heroes like those police officers or soldiers. You know, at this year's enshrinement, we'll have three recipients of the Congressional Medal of Honor. And when I introduce them, Pat, I guarantee you it will be with our Hall of Famers there. Every Hall of Famer will be on their feet. But you know what? The only thing they'll want to do is meet the Dallas Cowboys or the Indianapolis Colts. They get inspired by that. But that's why we have this personal player legacy archive. And there's guys like, you probably know Bart Oates, who's the president of the NFL alumni.

Bart's an incredible guy, played center, has five championships with three teams in two different leagues. That's a pretty good record. But he's not in the Hall of Fame. But when we pulled his archive and put it out there, man, he's grabbing his camera. He wants to take pictures of it. He had tears in his eyes. And, again, I want you to know, real seriously, not having fun or anything like that. I want to have fun with you, but we can do that when you come to the house.

No, no. Real serious. Okay. You know, what you did in building this league, you play a role in that. You worked at that, and so did the guys you played with, and they've inspired other people, and our job is to honor your legacy, every guy that plays.

So if you play in a week in the National Football League, you have an archive here at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And if you played in the first century, your name is inscribed forever down at Centennial Plaza. Hey, that's a lot of pressure on you, David Baker, okay? Because there's a lot of people that played one week in the NFL. Now, listen, is the elite of the elite? But that's a lot of pressure.

And I want to let you know, when I come check out that archive, I will probably have some, like, I'll probably get a bit emotional watching it. I'm sure my dad would lose his mind for it. It's very cool that you think about those type of people. And thankfully, you guys finally put it – and Ray Guy and I have our own differences because of his award that he gave out to the wrong person my senior year. But thankfully, you guys put a punter in there too. Let's go ahead and get that thing going.

You know what I mean? That's a big deal. We got a punter in there too. Let's go ahead and get that thing going. That's a big deal. We got a punter. We got a couple kickers. Jan Stennerud, Morton Anderson. When we did Morton Anderson, I told him I would represent his gold jacket, his bronze bust, and his ring in Denmark where he left as a 10th

grade exchange student to come over here. He goes back 40 years as the all-time leading scorer at that time of the NFL. And I got to tell you, Pat, it was just as cool there as it was here. Every camera in Denmark was there. The entire, every adult within 30 miles was there. And I didn't understand what was being said, but when you're giving them the gold jacket or presenting the bronze, presenting the bronze bust, I mean, guys are crying and it's important. But again, I think that's what the game does.

The game is, you know, I get in trouble for this sometimes because I have great respect for our teachers, but I've never gone back to my chemistry teacher or my calculus teacher when I needed some advice in life. I went back to a coach. And that coach, while that education was important, that coach teaches you how to get up when you get knocked down and how to go on when you don't think you can go on or how to keep your marriage together or survive the divorce. And I think that's a lot of what, you know, if you get beyond the money in the NFL, and I understand it's a lot of what if you get beyond the money in the NFL and I understand it's a business you get beyond the money that's what it really is

it's a team it's your coach it's becoming more than you are so I'd love to show you your archive we probably should edit it sometime we may want to censor a few things I understand So I'd love to show you your archive. We probably should edit it sometimes. We may want to censor a few things.

I understand, and I appreciate that. And thank you for all that you've done for the game and the sport and the league. I'm excited to see that thing continue to grow. Go ahead, Ty. David, you talked about this being a dream job, which I assume it is. How did you get this position? Were you selected or appointed? Because I know you were in politics in California before you did this like how did this come about how did you even get this opportunity yeah i listen i was a commissioner of the arena football league when it was flying

and high for about 12 years oh you know one of the guys i would meet with regular my my contact at the n was Commissioner Goodell. The board of directors here, and understand, too, this is an important thing. The Pro Football Hall of Fame is a not-for-profit institution. It has a separate board of directors. We get about 3% of our money from the NFL. We make it from the tickets we sell for these events.

We make it from full-time posts. We have partners that sponsor what we do. But they did a national search and the commissioner actually bet that I would never come. One of the chairmen at the time. And frankly, I will tell you something that was kind of interesting because I was traveling to see my son at Atlanta at the time when he played with the Falcons. And when they offered me the position, I respectfully turned it down. I thought it was a wonderful thing, but I was doing something else that I thought was bigger at the time. And at the end of the day, I sent the job description to my

wife and I said, hey, you'll never guess what happened today. And then I erased it. She called me back about 15 minutes later. She said, hey, we're going to go do this. And we're from Newport Beach, Irvine, California. And I said, well, sweetheart, you know, in my most condescending term, I've already turned it down. She said, you can call back. And I said, well, sweetheart, we got this big project we're working on. She said, yeah, but you got partners that can take that over. And I said, sweetheart, I don't know if you know this, but it's cold in Ohio. It's the coldest thing I've ever been in your life. And for her great credit, she said, have you read this thing?

And I said, no, I hadn't even read it. She said, you better read this because this is what you believe. And, you know, my mom and dad were really good, hardworking people. My dad worked in a lumberyard. My mom, her only gift was keeping other kids. They couldn't read or write. And if it wasn't for sports, I wouldn't have gone to college. I wouldn't have had a chance to travel around the world and do things and, and frankly be with guys like you. And, you know, and so to me,

I really do think that sometimes sports gets a bad reputation in, in colleges and education, but I think there's a lot of values there. And you know what? My wife was right. Yeah. It's been a great job. I'd say. And you've done a hell of a job.

And shout out to your wife, by the way. Big shout out to Mrs. Baker for forcing David Baker into doing this job that you have done fantastically. I think that's one you regret forever, huh? You don't do it? Probably. Well, it's a great job. You know, again, I think somebody else will do it better than me

when that time comes. Oh, come on! Hey, guys, stop! They're probably not going to be 400 pounds. Hey, maybe. I don't know. Offensive linemen got big brains dude go ahead connor yeah mr baker for the guys like adam vinatieri bill belichick horse who were still in the league or still are but you know they're going to be in the hall of fame do you start making their bus just because you're anticipating all right these guys will be in here someday yeah you know what i i'll tell you we we

have a five-year waiting limit and i think it's really important for that five-year waiting limit to take place because, frankly, it's hard for guys to leave the NFL. And I saw that in my son. And, Pat, I'm sure you experienced it. It's tough. It's a different world. And when you leave it, all of a sudden, you're gone. And I think guys need to let their legacy and their career settle.

Because, again, Peyton Manning took 10 seconds to be selected i mean yeah what took so long what took so long mike chapel took the microphone i called on him for the presentation he said peyton manning and he dropped the mic shut up shut up but his wife ashley helped us with the knock on the door we went to mile high stadium and i don't know if you saw it, but his youth coaches were on the jumbo screen. His high school coaches were on the jumbo screen. His college coaches from Tennessee, his NFL coaches were all there. And when I told him he was in the Hall of Fame, respectfully,

it wasn't this polished marketing NFL veteran that's 45 years old at that moment the guy I was talking to was eight years old or 10 years old that started that journey and he remembers all the shoulders of the guys he's standing upon and I've seen it over and over and over again. So it's a special moment. But again, I think it may be different. You may not have a bronze bus, Pat, or a gold jacket. One day. But I think a lot of guys in this game, it's an elite level of excellence to have made it that far.

And I think by keeping their legacy alive, we're doing it a lot for the kids in the future. I think so, too. And with the bus conversation, you know, and when you start making them, who was, somebody had, Dion's? No, Dion's was, somebody had. Oh, someone's was. Dion had a, there was one that was not fantastic.

And normally the artist is unbelievable. How, is that process one that it is long, strenuous? Is that easy? Is that the hardest part of that thing? Because what you said, that bus is staying for 40,000 years or something. That's a long, long time. I mean, let's hope. We don't know what's going on.

I mean, me and David Baker are not the right people to get in that conversation. But I mean, the bus, that's a big deal. And then when those things get debuted, I think there was only one that I do recall where everybody was like, what the hell? That doesn't look like him at all. Aside from that, is that process the most strenuous and longest part of this whole thing? Well, it's one of many. We have four icons that we give guys. One is the bronze bust, and that is done by a gentleman named Blair Buswell who is a nationally

renowned artist and he has a team of people in Utah and it we start the day after the Super Bowl when we kind of reveal these guys to the nation on the honor show and it'd take eight months to get this thing ready and they see it for the first time when they unveil it like in

this next week. They'll see it for the first time. But we also have the gold jacket that is done by Hager that is presented on Friday night and they walk the gauntlet of all the hall of famers. And I remember when Kurt Warner was up there and Kurt's a guy I knew in the arena football league. So, you know, yeah, he got up as he's about to walk through the gauntlet. He says, Oh my God, these are all my heroes. And you walk the gauntlet and he said, oh my God, these are all my heroes. And you walk that gauntlet to get your gold jacket.

John Stalwer said that when he put on the gold jacket, it was like him wrapping himself in the history of the league from the first time they laced up a pigskin to the presentation of the last Lombardi. And then we give the ring of excellence, which was given in the fall in their stadium. It actually has their bronze bust on the side of the ring. so it can't be made until after the bronze bust is done. And then we give one more when they die. And I'll tell you, the biggest surprise to me is how many funerals I've been called on to speak at. I mean, good Lord, I did Chuck Bednarik's funeral or Bart Starr's funeral.

Who would have ever thought that you'd be in that situation? But we present them with a medallion, and it's called the Memorial Medallion. And it just says, Pro Football Hall of Fame, Canton, Ohio, forever. And that's why we take that. It's serious. Let me just share one other. You mentioned Bill Belichick. Go ahead.

When Bill was here, he was here for Ty Law's enshrinement. And I told him I was thinking about putting him on the Blue Ribbon Committee for the guys that were going to pick the centennial enshrinees. And he's a great respecter of history. And I said, but the problem is, Bill, it's going to be in January, and I think you're going to be busy in the playoffs. And he says, no. He says, really? He says, put me on it. Please put

me on it. I promise I'll make the time. Now, he kind of lost in the second week, but he was in 30 hours of phone calls. When we had the final selection day, he came a day early to go through our archives to look at the old guys like Duke Slater and

Max Speedy and all that stuff. At the end of the time when, you know, Ernst & Young are counting the votes and getting ready to give me the envelope, he stands up and he says, I just don't want all of you to know, and this is our distinguished selection committee, really impressive people. He says, to be here in this place for this duty on this day, he says, this has been just the best day of my life. Wow. And this is a guy who has eight rings already.

And so there's a lot of people who care about the game. And when you do come here, Pat, we can show you how the tight end got started and, you know, who did the first shotgun and all the history of the game. I think you'll enjoy it. Yeah, I'll absolutely love it. And I bet Sirius Hour 2-3 will be on the other side of the six-minute break. We're still live

on YouTube. The thought of Bill Belichick wanting to do that while also doing football, he's probably trying to find plays in there. He's like, oh, this will give me a reason to go back and find some plays. And then they started running that superpower with Cam. It's like, oh, this is giving me a reason to go back and find some good plays. And then they started running that superpower with Cam. It's like, oh, he was watching film on the Centennial team.

David, we can't thank you enough for your time. Good luck next week. It's going to be a massive week. I will reach out about sleeping at your house for sure. Yeah, make sure it's when I'm home. I don't want you there with my wife alone. Okay, all right. Hey, I promise I'm an honorable man,

but I understand what this sentiment. Ladies and gentlemen, David Baker. Thank you, David. Lucky. Lucky to do it. I'm lucky to do it. Cheers, man. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to be a part of your day. Yesterday, when I signed

off, I said, hey, tomorrow's show's going to be a good one. Did I lie? Nope. David Baker, dude. Jagger Eaton. Usain Bolt, bro. Come on. Hopefully we followed up with a beautiful feel good Friday manana. Please be a friend. Tell a friend. Hashtag in a pod squad. I appreciate all of you so, so much. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful Thursday night. We'll see you. Minyata. Thank you. so Thank you. We'll see you next time. Thank you. Outro Music