The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 467 - The Hall Of Fame Game.. Football Is Officially Here With Chris Long & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 5, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys welcome 2x Super Bowl Champion, 2018 Walter Payton Man of the Year, 2nd overall pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, Chris Long to chat about the NFL season being back officially with the Hall of Fame game, whether or not he ever played in the game, his thoughts on being a part of the media, what things that people in the media who never played bothers him, what training camp is like for defensive lineman in the NFL, fights in training camp, if he ever had to run laps or do push-ups during practice while in the NFL, and his thoughts on Aaron Rodgers coming back to Green Bay (2:20-39:56). Later, Pat and AJ chat more about everything going on in the sports world including Lionel Messi leaving Barcelona, potentially coming to the US to play in the MLS, the Hall of Fame game tonight, and why stats from training camp are the most misleading things ever, and that we should just be happy that we officially have football back (47:50-1:51:12). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, Thursday, August 5th, 2021. Big show, good show. If you like this, by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend, if not, just act like it never, ever happened. Let's go. Because today is a day we've been dreaming about for a long time.

Yeah! Hey, ever since we seen the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Stadium defeat Patrick Mahomes in no offensive line in the Super Bowl, We've been waiting. We've been yearning. We've been hoping. We've been learning about everything that could potentially happen this upcoming fall.

And today is the day where NFL football will be played on a high school football field. Yeah! Woo! It was a long, long road to get here, filled with all types of bullshit, both from within the sport and outside of the sport. There's a lot of teams that got better, a lot of teams perceived to have gotten worse. But now we will get a chance to see players that will probably not be in the NFL play in an NFL game tonight. And I think that is a cause for celebration. In an NFL game tonight, and I think that is a cause for celebration.

Hell yeah! Fox Cables here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt. Tone Diggs is in here early. The Hammer Down Boys will be in with Gumpy in the next hour. And going forward, it's a beautiful day. It's a magical day. Because tonight when the Steelers and Cowboys step onto that football field in Canton, Ohio, Cowboys step onto that football field in Canton, Ohio. And Dave Baker is looking on from the side in a beautiful sport coat and a suit. It's probably going to be 200 degrees with Steelers fans packing that place hot tonight.

We're going to get a chance to get a taste of something that's magical, something that carries us through our entire existence, something that makes us feel better than we feel any other time of the year. Football will be in the air. NFL football is right around the corner. And tonight we're going to get at least 10 to 12 good plays of football. And that is what? 10 to 12 more good plays of football than we had when?

Yesterday. Yeah! Come on! To join us, to chat with us, there is no other human we'd rather have. Is he on? What's that? To talk to us about it. Let's get to it.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who's a two-time, two-time Super Bowl champion Just one-time winner of the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award What a fucking loser Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Law How are you, man? Yeah, I'm good I did win the Community Service Award once

Did a lot of good stuff off the field there, guys Yeah, you're a hero I mean, you didn't win it twice You didn't win it twice You only won it once You could have won it back-to- I mean, you didn't win it twice. You didn't win it twice. You only won it once. You could have won it back-to-back, but you didn't. You must have let off a little bit. But everything you did in the communities you played for

and other communities is honorable. I want to let you know, as somebody that watched it on from outside, you're a cool dude. I want to let you know. Now let's talk about your forehead right there. Win bet. Congratulations. I saw that.

I'm covering my forehead. I'm covering my forehead. I reached for a hat. I swear, this is the classic, like, hey, I just picked a T-shirt on top of the drawer. It really is Winbet, dude. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to just plug my employer here. Okay, so.

It's a nice hat. You know, when somebody sends you a free hat and it actually fits, you've got to wear it. Well, they're your employer. They're also paying you to wear it. But the free hat is also, I'm down with the free hat as well. And listen, I don't know who I'm trying to kid either. FanDuel is sitting right over my shoulder every single day. Yeah, they are.

Yeah, they're not my employer. But let's talk about it. So you're full-time with WinBet. Is that how that whole thing worked out? What'd they pick up? The Greenlight Pod and everything else? Are you going to be creating stuff all season for them? Yeah, so basically the nice thing is I signed with Blue Wire.

What's that? Those guys. Shout out to them. What's that? Those guys. Shout out to them. What's that? What's that? Basically, they house a lot of podcasts and essentially as a platform. So nice thing is I can kind of be myself, kind of keep doing the show how we want to do it. You know how important autonomy is and how important creative control is.

And they're like, we believe in you. We're going to give you the reins. And then Winbet's running their stuff through them. so got it do a lot of gambling stuff through win bet and win bets like new and exciting so uh good chance to do what i love which is piss money away uh betting on football games hey listen with your big brain you're gonna win money on football i don't know about that no listen you know what it's gonna be though chris and this happened with me after i retired i have a lot of italian friends always have and they've been degenerates with I don't everything like that. He was supposed to come on the show last week. He canceled 20 minutes beforehand. But Pete Rose.

Well, that sounds about it. Let me back up for a second here. That sounds like something maybe Pete Rose would do. No offense to Pete Rose. No, bingo. It was almost better than him coming on the show. It was like Pete Rose pulled Pete Rose. But that was forced on a lot of us.

And I assume through you as well, especially with your dad's legacy. And then as soon as I retired, I started dabbling in it and i was like starting to get confident comfortable i started making some real money in football gambling i'm like how you doing keep it moving fan duel starts happening we go it's when you start betting on shit you don't know and that hey chris that's gonna happen listen you're gonna get into basketball you're gonna be like i fucking feel it i know this is gonna end that's where that's where it's gonna go i'm actually i think i have the opposite problem stuff i know know, I fuck up royally. So, like, you know, we think we know football really well, right?

So you got to bet the entire board. I got, dude, I'm the worst. I got, like, five teasers out there. I have, like, five parlays. And then the three bets I win are just negated by all that bullshit I do on the side. But I do it for the thrill. I don't, like, I have enough money. You have enough money.

No, you'll learn. Chris, you'll learn. You'll learn. You will. I don't know. I know a lot of old guys who never did. No, no, but you're smarter than those guys. Listen, and the Italians have even caught on to it.

So even if the biggest degenerates can do it. Now, unless you just want to give money back, which I don't think you want to do, you'll learn, like, okay, I'm not going to pull the trigger on every single game because there is a lot of good-looking lines out there. Oh, yeah. Too many. Tonight, hey. Oh, yeah, we bet in the Hall of Fame.

Yeah. I'm betting you over. I'm betting you over tonight, 32.5 points. I just think there's going to be some freak touchdowns. Have you played in the Hall of Fame game? What are your thoughts on preseason football as a whole, Chris? Okay, first, who's playing tonight so I can bet the game? Because I totally check out on this shit.

Yeah, us two. Steelers, Cowboys. No Dak. No Ben. Mason Rudolph starting for the Steelers. It's going to be chaos out there. I'd love to bet this game. Okay.

One time I had to play in the Hall of Fame game, it was, we were going to play, I think the Browns. And when I saw it on our schedule, the spring before I just about cried. Yeah. Like,

like just think about having to do a fifth preseason game, like six days before you report or after you report, like that's like just jumping off a third story balcony like you know you just hit the ground dude like it's just like there's no time to get ready for that so i think you know it's a really awesome thing you know that that they bring all the hall of famers back my pops gets to go he just got on a plane today uh to go back and he loves that you know he sees all sees all those guys that he respected as a kid. You know, like his heroes are wearing the same jacket he is and they all hang out and they really respect the event. And then to see

him on the field is really cool. But the active football part of it is tough. Terrible. It's terrible. And I got lucky. We had a lockout. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. The lockout year? Oh, yeah. So that was the year we were supposed to do the Hall of Fame game. And I was like, if this lockout could just end, but right after the Hall of Fame game, that would be great.

And that's exactly what happened. Chris, you and I both, I think, and we didn't have to play in a Hall of Fame game that year. We played in it the year the field wasn't good enough for us to play on. You remember that? So we were both scheduled to play in a Hall of Fame game. Guess what? Neither of us did.

Hey, paulrud.jif. Hey, yeah. Look at us. Who would have thought? Huh? Who would have thought? Come on, man. That's some good fortune right there.

So, listen, preseason as a whole, I do think there's value in shortening it. You know, I can remember when, you know, something like OCU Maniura tears his ACL in preseason. You know, it's just such a waste of certain dudes to go out there and get hurt. And also, it's really hard to get in a rhythm. You know how, like, first game, you don't play a lot if you're a starter. Second game, you play a little bit more. Third game, you play a lot. And then the fourth game, you know, you coast. i'd rather just do two games get it over with play me 30 snaps and let's like just rip the band-aid off you know if we just did two and we moved on

the thing that really wears on you is the practice as much as anything so if you're doing another week of practice you know um preparing for that game it can really wear you down and uh i think it's really hard you don't glean a lot from preseason. Every year there's a guy who has like five sacks in preseason, and everybody's like, oh, he's going to be an all-pro. I had one sack in preseason. I had 70 in my career. So it really just doesn't matter.

I mean, I hate to say that. It matters for the guys fighting for a roster. Hold on. So this is what I'm going to get into, Chris, because the Lions, I think they were undefeated in the preseason year. They won 0-16 or whatever. The Colts here have always had bad preseasons because the team wasn't very deep, but the starters were incredible

and they didn't want to risk anything like that. You were getting to say the roster spot. I think there should be maybe a game or two games that you play in a position that would have to get into rhythm a little bit more. You said two games would be good. There should just be an advertised bubble game. Like, hey, this is a bubble game. We have no

idea if these guys are going to be on our team or one of the other 31 teams or maybe selling insurance. Like, hey, we have no idea what's going to happen. Kind of note it that way as opposed to because remember, they're selling tickets to these things and season ticket holders have to buy the

tickets for the preseason games. And tonight, we'll watch. I told the boys, first drive, we'll be excited NFL football is back. And then I don't even know if I'll make it to the second quarter before going, oh, this is fucking terrible football. It's not the player's fault. It's like six days you're in there. And I try to be – listen, I get it.

A lot of my good buddies and probably yours too were guys who were scrapping for spots. Yes. I get it. A lot of my good buddies and probably yours too were guys who were scrapping for spots. Yes. I respect that. Like shout out to guys like Darren Bates and special teams guys who, you know, came to leave without the same opportunities that high draft picks did. Sorry, let me move this camera. But, you know, like it's just for an older guy or for a starter, literally the best part is when you're taken out of the game and you reach down in your sock for that tin of dip or that bag of peanuts.

You sit on the bench and you hang out the second half and you just watch football. That's my favorite part. In a sense, I kind of get why you all like to watch football. It's a lot of fun. It was different. But everything else, you're just nervous. You get hurt. One time after I was coming off an injury, Jeff Fisher had me in there in the fourth quarter of the third game like i was ir the year before so he was like trying to see if i was

back i wasn't uh and i made i made a big play and i'm getting up and i'm like motherfucker i'm cheering and all this shit and people like man you were really fired up and i was like no i was i was cussing out coach i didn't want to be in that thing. That's preseason, man. You just got to put your head down and get through it. Tonight, actually, my sources are telling me that there's a chance that a certain kicker will not be kicking for a certain team

due to a Hall of Fame game injury that had happened to that same team's kicker who was very fucking good just a few years back. Swisham tore his ACL acl i think trying to make a tackle on the ace swish him swish him towards acl in a hall of fame game kicker trying to make a tackle he's out then they have scoby in there he misses every kick for some reason yeah scoby had a bad game scoby had a bad run with the steelers down in jacksville he's great

oh you don't like hey what do you got beef with Scobes? No, I'm just laughing because you know so much about the kicking game, and I'm like, yeah, Scobie. Oh, Chris, fuck off. All right, listen. Go to hell. All right, you just listen to us, you special teamers. But I have some inside information happening on tonight's game, so the over might be in jeopardy.

It always has been. Oh, no. The over might be in jeopardy. I'm not here in position. I'll fuck around and bet unders. People are always like, life's too short to bed unders. I'm like, this seems perfect. Life seems perfect to bed unders.

Yeah, you seem like a miserable person. I mean, right over here. Right over here. You say it yourself early in camp. Seaball, get ball. Defense has the. Yeah, exactly. Because I've watched.

We've got unders bettors in there, so that's good. Yeah, so I've watched, you know, a lot of football, preseason football. I think that is something that a lot of punters, kickers, and snappers, like now, granted, you have to take advantage of that opportunity, but I've been very lucky to be like front row to watch basically every aspect of NFL football. Now, preseason's a nightmare for me, okay? Preseason's, I'm going out there in fourth quarter with three McDonald's workers blocking on the right side of the punt here.

It is a little bit nightmare, but early in training camp and you tell me if I'm accurate in my observation, it's always see ball, get ball. Defense kills early. Unless the offense is a veteran group that's been around for a long

time, it feels like defense does run the show early. Is that because the scheme doesn't really matter as much on the defensive side? You just kind of got to run around and just find the ball and go full speed. It doesn't matter what happens. Well, I think a lot of times early in camp, like something, you know, you alluded to something being more complex, like offensive blocking schemes are more protections are more complex than, you know, we've got a nine, a seven, a three and a shade,

like, or we have two nines and we've got a nine, a seven, a three and a shade, like, or we have two nines and we're going or like, hey, maybe you've got a blitzer in the B gap. And we've been drilling that little thing all day. But on the other side, they're learning like seven iterations of protection. And, you know, there's more like throwing and catching the football handoffs, like stuff like that, false starts, starts the snap count like early in training camp i do think that the defense kind of naturally sets the tone um and then when i think you get to that first preseason game if you ask like position players i feel like at least in my experience that the offense was always good for going on some long ass drive like the beginning of because you're so tired oh yeah like there's no way to get in football shape

unless you play like real football and that's the that's the catch-22 of shortening the preseason is like i don't care how long or how tough your camp was i don't care how many up downs you're doing which i'm totally cool with over there down ups by the way the media called him down it was awesome it was awesome they said what down ups they called him down-ups, dude. It was awesome. It was awesome. They said what? Down-ups. They called him down-ups. Oh, down-ups. Good. And so the media is definitely qualified to comment on the ability of these coaches without seeing them coach a game. But, like, I just think you're going to be gassed that first preseason drive. Like, some of the most tired I've ever been has been that drive where every third down we're running basic shit because

you don't want to show anything right so offenses are kind of converting uh you're tired they're they're not having to run to the football like you you know what I mean yeah so it's funny the first day of camp I think the defense owns it the first preseason game at least I felt like we gave up a lot of big drives in the beginning. And then also those second, third, fourth quarters, especially in this first game, and for the Steelers-Cowboys, these first two games, you know, those are all the young guys. And those guys have no idea. They're dead tired, too.

They're doing like 60, 70 plays, some guys, on the defensive side. They're playing a lot. And special teams. And they're supposed to block for me, by the way. And they've never done that in their entire life. And they have no idea. It's a lot easier to block for me, by the way, and they've never done that in their entire life. They have no idea. It's a lot easier to block a punt, by the way, than to block for a punt.

For me, preseason was get me the fuck out of here. I hope to survive. I don't know. I want to say this, though, Pat. I didn't fear a lot of stuff on the field you can't to play, but if I had to block a punt, I'd be kind of fucking afraid of your foot. Thank you. Thank you. That means a lot. There's the field you can't to play uh but if i had to block a punt i'd be kind of fucking afraid of your foot thank you thank you that means a lot there's a guy named brahman you know brahman you know brahman brian brayman yeah oh brian brayman's an absolute psycho

hey is his head not this large dude bro the guy is the guy is a legend if you can hear his super bowl speech before we went out to play the Patriots, I don't remember much about what he said, but it was definitely like we were playing Call of Duty, not going to play a football game. But he's just insane, bro. He was like a special teams demon, bro. He was a terrorist for the brand.

That's what he was. He was He was a terrorist for the brand. Okay, that's what he was. He was the first ever terrorist for the brand. He is. He's this big white dude. His head is massive. He's long hair. He's got a 40 pack, I think. And he's built like, you know, the you know, it's like an upside down a down to the waist.

You know what I mean? Yeah, that's cool thing. I'm built like a rectangle as hard as I work as much as i cut weight yeah he's just built like an upside down a he looks like he stepped off of a motorcycle and he just runs out on the field like and decapitates people yeah and blocks punts he had a string there i think of like two to three straight years where he either got a deflection tried to break my my leg, or blocked a punt. All induced. It was like before the game, too. I think we were cutting.

Yeah, here is him breaking my fucking leg, by the way. No penalty was called here. You see, I do end up kicking that thing like 33 yards, I think. My leg wraps around his leg, though. But he was so nice that he actually conformed around my knee that he actually was like a little brace for that. Oh, nice. Yeah, it was nice of him.

Yeah, it was very nice of him to do that. He did say immediately upon us both being on the ground that it did hurt and asked me if I was okay. And then I said, yeah, fuck. And then I look at the ref and there's no flag. I'm like, are we kidding right now? Are we even kidding right now? Yeah, I mean, guys that look like they're in biker gangs can have compassion too.

He was the man. Hey, he was the man i wish i could have heard that speech i mean yeah well it's out there i think it's out there on like uh youtube.com and stuff so all right i'll check it out youtube.com um can we can we talk about the state of the nfl media can we do that you just you just sure we can all right good good are we a part of that am i a part of that yeah see that's kind of a battle that I'm having right now because I remember hearing media people say, you know, the media is doing blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, well, you're in the media and we're, I guess you and I are pretty large parts of the media now on the internet, at least. And it's very lucky to do so. So whenever we point fingers at other members of the media, I think we kind of

sound like, uh, you know, non-self-aware douches. But I would like to say that I think the media covering things, there's a lot of people forgetting about what football is like, and I think they're trying to paint like a fairytale world of what football is. And people who have been in football should be able to say, no, that's not what it's like at all. For instance, Motor City Dane Campbell up there, him saying that he loved seeing his two young guys get after it, and everybody's like, this guy is a maniac. Now that comes after the

knee biting and everything like that that is Ben Dan Campbell and being his own self. But like, fights happen. Football is a physical sport. It's a violent sport. A hundred degrees, people running, that's going to happen. The people in the Giants, now push-ups I would never do in a million years, but the fans are like, Joe Judge has lost a team

because there was a fight and Danny Dime shouldn't be in there. It's like, no, this is what happens. This is what happens in football. I feel like a lot of people have forgot that, though, whenever they get on a microphone. What's that all about, Chris? Well, listen, and I know you're not doing it either. We're not painting with a broad brush or anything. I mean, I don't know. It's just there's a general when it comes to things like that, everybody likes to sound smart and say we're above that. We don't fight anymore. This is Neanderthal football.

This coach is a Neanderthal. You know, this is archaic. The problem is I think a lot of that commentary goes on on Twitter where, like, 95% of people didn't play. And that's no offense. Like, I think media members can do a great job without having played. Agreed. This is broad brush stuff. We're not painting with a broad brush. Some of our best media members who are a great job without having played. Agreed. This is broad brush stuff. We're not painting with a broad brush. Some of our best media members who are the most insightful didn't play.

You know, like Bill Barnwell, my dog, shout him out. Like, you know, guys like that. Bill didn't play. He knows, like, so much about the game. It's just there's guys and girls who, you know, look at things and they're like, I'm afraid to not overreact to this sound bite from dan campbell because florio who i like you know misquotes him or you know somebody takes a quote out of context or we all agree that this guy was a terrible hire because he does stink like

a terrible hire it's detroit the guy came out of nowhere so a lot of people are thinking like what are they doing but like for instance dan campbell there's been this narrative that he's going to fail because he's a hard-o and I don't even think people know what a hard-o is in the NFL hard-os don't smile hard-os don't talk to the media hard-os don't joke with their players hard-os don't share you know I mean Dan has done all those things and i think like if you want to know if players are going to like a coach or not ask a fucking player how about that you know and players that i've talked to really like the guy i'm not saying he's going to be a great coach i have no idea but he would be a perfect example of the way we've kind of like we've kind of stigmatized this football guy thing to the point that like if, if we even sniff it, automatically the guy's going to suck.

If he wins games, people are going to be obsessed with his shtick or whatever it is. Oh, yeah. I buy his shtick because I think he's authentic. Now, can he coach? We'll see. I don't know. But he's a perfect example of everybody kind of piling on. And I know people didn't like the hire.

But he's a perfect example of everybody kind of piling on. And I know people didn't like the hire. And listen, the Rooney Rule thing, it's been really rough for black coaches watching. And this guy and many other guys seem like we're coming out of nowhere, like out of the woodwork. Where did they find this guy? But he's coached under Sean Payton. He's got experience. He's dealt with both sides of the locker room. And guys love him.

And you know what? If Detroit wants to make that call, maybe they're going to be hitting the reset button in a year or two. But it's not like the last 15 coaches have worked out very well for them outside Jim Caldwell. Well, I agree. And they ran him out of town because he wasn't good enough. I mean, we're good now, but he's not good enough.

Get him the fuck out. He doesn't smile either, the guy. I love Jim Caldwell. He's awesome. But I don't know how many coaches wanted the Detroit out. He doesn't smile either, the guy. I love Jim Caldwell, but I don't know how many coaches wanted the Detroit job. I know and I assume the common thought is everybody who's

coaching wants to be a head coach in the NFL. I agree, but I think now at this point we're seeing a lot of players take a little bit less money to stay in good positions. I think you're seeing a lot of good coaches potentially change their strategy on where they want to go, how they want to go, because of what Chris just said, how in one year they might be firing you, your whole family, and moving everything like that. So I'm not saying that there wasn't other coaches that were maybe more qualified to get the Lions job. I assume that

there definitely was, but I think Dan Campbell is like the perfect person for the Lions job. I'm not sure that was a very desirable position for anybody. He's bought in completely. And I found that very deep of you saying, like, people don't even know Hardo's in the football world because I think immediately when I look at Dan Campbell, I'm like, okay, this is a meathead. But then whenever you listen to him speak, it's like, oh, it's a deep thinking meathead. He's a compassionate meatball.

Yeah. I'm a compassionate meatball. Me too, I think. Like, listen, like the guy gets people now i don't know if he's gonna get like building an offense around jared goff i don't know if he's gonna put his coaches in the right position i'll tell you what he has done that staff that they um that they kind of put together is like the coolest staff in the history of football like these dudes are all ballers and they're all cool.

My man Deuce is up there from Philly. Brad's up there. Antoine Randall. They're just cool. He did a great job of assembling his staff. Now it's going to be his job to manage the situation. If he can't, he won't be there long. Give the guy a chance. Maybe he's not

the asshole that you think he is because you're afraid to retweet something that you think is a little caveman-ish. Like, that's his style. Hey, listen, caveman has won a lot of football games. I mean, there's that. Caveman has won a lot of football games. A lot of them. Go ahead.

You know what? Here's the other thing. A lot of people, people don't even, like, the hard-o thing, like, some of the media's favorite people are hard-os, and they don't even know it. Like, that's the thing. Like, the media doesn't, are hardos and they don't even know it like that's the thing like the media doesn't and i'm including myself in this if i was looking at the nba or something and i didn't play and i was like well i think this guy looks like kind of a dick or this

guy looks like he's cool or this guy's humble like we don't really know we weren't around these guys we weren't in locker rooms and you can know a lot about the game of football without having that kind of sixth sense about people and teammates and what players are into or not into i think a lot of times there's a disconnect between the the media at large and what like players think i would say like i think that is a very very true statement and if he has success you know what every other owner is going to be looking for as soon as he has success. Hey, we need a big, deep-thinking meathead. I need two black eyes, man. What do you say?

I need two black eyes. Pike, black. Two shots in each. Black eyes for both of them. The only thing I don't like about Dan Campbell in the entire world, and by the way, there's no Dan Campbell trend because God only made one Dan Campbell. You can't go after he succeeds. If he does, you can't be like, where are the other Dan Campbells? There's just one.

But it's unfortunate that he's an addict because I found that out. He's a caffeine addict, that illicit drug that you're all hooked on. He's drinking 100 ounces a day. That's in the morning. That's in the morning, I think. We're talking about the level of addiction that you were referring to is alarming. But hey, by the way, a lot of caffeine addicts have won a lot of games. No doubt.

No doubt. I used to be one. I have to comment because life is better without it. Well, it depends on if they win or lose. I'll tell you what, that's the only thing that's going to depend upon whether or not life is good over there. We're talking to Chris Long, two-time Super Bowl champion, only one-time Walter Payton man.

Yikes. That's a shame. That's a real shame. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Chris, Pat alluded to the push-ups Joe Judge was making players do, and Joe Looney actually retired the second that he heard that he had to do it. When you were in New England, you were already an established vet in the league. Was there ever a time where he kind of made players do laps or, you know, do push-ups and everyone was like, hey, Bill, come on, man?

No, I think honestly, like, I didn't think New England's camp was that crazy, like that hard. You know, I think every organization runs camp differently, every coach. And Lord knows I had seven coaches in St. Louis alone. So, I mean, it ran the gambit. My toughest camp was like pre-CBA, two and A's with Steve Spagnuolo. So, like after that, it was like after the CBA that we were talking about earlier, like, it was all downhill.

So, even when I got to England, I was just like, man, I wish y'all had more windows in the facility. That was my biggest complaint. Like, it's like a compound. But, you know, some of my favorite coaches made me do up-downs. Greg Williams is one of my favorite coaches. I know, again, the media doesn't like Greg Williams. Some players might not like him.

Some players will walk through hell for him. So, he used to make us do 40 up-downs. unlike Greg Williams. Some players might not like him. Some players will walk through hell for him. So he used to make us do 40 up-downs. So you'd practice the whole summer for having to do 40 up-downs before team periods. And then when we'd get to camp, we'd get to 25 and he'd blow the whistle. You know, it was like a big joke. So it was basically you practiced it all summer

and then you didn't even have to pass it if it looked like you were in shape. The take the head off, the rest of the snake will die guy was making you guys do 40 up-downs before team periods? Are you serious? Listen, we had a group that was – we were hell on wheels, so we didn't mind doing it. It was like, hey, do 25 and we'll blow the whistle.

I will say this with the Joe Judge thing. I don't mind push-ups. And I love that Looney retired because I think that's great. Whenever anybody has the balls to walk out of a facility, I think you're a legend. Like Vontae Davis.

The best. Like all-time legend. Because you know how coaches always say, if you don't want to be here, leave. I love the guy that's like, okay. You said it, man. Like all-time legend for just – because you know how coaches always say, if you don't want to be here, leave? I love the guy that's like, okay. You said it, man, because that is like the classic quote. Go ahead, Pat. Sorry.

No, I was going to say that's a classic quote. And there's always the people that – the new coaches are saying, hey, if you're falling asleep in a meeting, just stand up. It won't be a problem. And then somebody stands up and they're like, sit the fuck down. What the fuck is your problem? Leave. If you don't want to be here, leave. And then somebody stands up and is like, sit the fuck down. What the fuck is your problem? Leave. If you don't want to be here, leave. And then you go from standing to leaving.

But I look at it like I'm fine with doing that to the players, but I don't get the making the coaches jog thing. And I know players don't often advocate for coaches, but they do work really hard. And if I was an assistant coach and my coach made me run, I would probably not be an assistant coach for long. I think that might have happened last year with the Italian offensive line coach. And by the way, the players.

Scar? No. Colombo. Colombo and Joe Judge allegedly got into a fist fight, allegedly last year. I wonder how that went. I mean, Joe's a big guy. Joe could probably hold his arm. But Colombobo was not only big but he's in a metal band gee so i didn't know that that does change the odds yeah mightily more into his favor because

i think he's also six foot like 10 oh yeah metal fight a 610 guy than like a 6-1 guy i'm 6'1. Okay, so you'd rather fight Columbo than me? Yeah, that was a compliment somehow. Hey, I've been in the Oculus, Chris. I've been in the Oculus. I've been doing it. Go ahead, Diggs.

Chris, can I ask you? I thought you were going to say Octagon. You said Oculus. Yeah, yeah. Fake, fake. Not real. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Chris, I wanted to ask you about kind of your position.

So TJ Watt, Bud Dupree played together forever. They were a great complement to each other. What happens when one of those guys, they leave, and now you don't have the guy on the other side? Like how do you guys deal with that? It's funny. Yeah, it's true. I mean, like me and Robert Quinn got to rush together, you know,

years where he was doing 19 on, like, a bad team. Like, guy's a mutant. But, I mean, that was great, but the guy that really makes a difference, I think both those guys will be fine. I do think Bud's a really great all-around player. I hope that Tennessee does enough to accentuate all the good things

he does. I hope they don't just say, we're just going to evaluate you on if you get 10 sacks. That's not exactly always who he is. I do think an inside rusher helps more than you know an end on the other side um i think so because and one thing is when you have two different rushers it's really nice to have two rushers that have different styles you know there's a few examples of that around the league but because then you can run high low you know one guy can go speed one guy can go power you don't want to both be it's going speed at nine yards and run

into each other it looks like a shitty car crash yeah so it's good to have varying styles but more than anything i think it's the inside guys because they make the tackle kind of peer down at them they make the tackle tighten and leave a hand in there if you're playing next next to Fletcher Cox, you know, that's going to change things. If you're playing next to Aaron Donald, which one of my biggest regrets is I got hurt when he got drafted. Like, you know, like you can run naturals off those guys. Like, so if Fletcher Cox gets off the ball, which he always does, if he beats your old ass off the ball, then you just go around him.

If he goes to power, and this is why it's nice to have an experienced rusher next to a guy inside. Everything's an option. And if you're looking inside, your periphery sees that massive dude in the B-gap raising hell, and you can kind of adjust off that person. And also you can work a lot with that person pre-snap, but a lot of it's natural stuff. So I think the inside guy makes more of a difference than the guy on the other side of you. Steelers need to bring back Casey Hampton

if they want TJ Watson. Dude, the guys they got in there, man. Oh, Cam Hayward's there. I completely forgot. He picked up an offensive lineman who is very good, going to be in the Hall of Fame. Okay, that offense lineman's going to be in the Hall of Fame, only offensive lineman is going to be in the Hall of Fame,

only going into his third year at this point, fourth year. Who was it? Quentin Nelson. You're talking about Quentin Nelson. Yeah, I mean, shoe-in for the Hall of Fame. Shoe-in for the Hall of Fame. Maybe greatest guard of all time when it's all said and done. Maybe.

I don't know. There might be a little indie thing going on here, but I do think he's the real deal. I remember when he pulled in Philly, the first time I ever played the Colts with him on and you know a lot of times on those counter plays i just set my feet and kind of like just shoulder a guy who's pulling i took five hop steps and i was on the hash i was like what the fuck is this guy his head size of steve hutchinson's there's only one guy with a head the size of ste Hutchinson's I've ever played.

Other than Steve Hutchinson, it was Quinn Nelson. He's going to get broken off here, as he deserves. But what Cam was able to do to him just on one particular play, it affected our season forever. Oh, yeah. I remember that. I remember that. And Cam and Tewitt.

I mean, Tewitt's been a guy who's been massively underrated um and they do a lot of different stuff there so it's like you know they can be multiple um those guys can move around they can play different roles i really i think tj is going to be fine i think bud's going to be fine as long as tennessee uses him correctly all right ty's got this last question we can't thank you enough for your time here chris. You're the man. What do you got today? You got a guitar? You got an unplugged situation going on? Yeah, I don't play a guitar, but that's – I'm not trying to be a douche, but it's signed by Chris Stapleton.

Oh! That's the guy that did that Justin Timberlake before? Tennessee Whiskey. Come on, man. Hey, y'all need to get some steel drivers going on here. You know steel drivers? Absolutely. That's Chris Stapleton's old Bluegrass band.

Everybody that's listening, go bless yourself. Hey, shout out Chris Stapleton and the Bluegrass band that he's got. What did he do? He wrote a bunch of songs for people for a long time, but they say you're not attractive enough to be the country musician, so he had to write songs for everybody, and then he came out and he was better than fucking everybody. I guess country music executives don't like printing fucking money because

this guy this guy is like one of the greatest voices of like the modern era and he can play five different kinds of music yeah he's awesome go ahead ty chris were you as surprised as a lot of the media and some former players that uh Aaron Rodgers teammates didn't bar him from returning to the Packers locker room like did that ever happen in uh one of your off seasons where like a guy maybe had like a messy contract situation and you basically told him like hey fuck it we don't we don't want you back here you're not coming in the locker room I was shocked that they didn't bar the door I mean nothing nothing says i want to win a super bowl more than like locking aaron rogers out of the building so like i just i just um it's funny like and you know this pat but you

sat around locker rooms when dudes are like sitting out like the third corner will be like dude i'm trying to get my money and dudes will be like get your money hey you know like the third corner okay so and usually the third corner thinks he's worth more than he is. No offense to Nichols. I think Nichols are actually more realistic than just the corner. They're going to get mad that you lumped them in with corners, though, because now Nichols' its own position. I mean, you're going to piss people off no matter what you just said right there.

Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I respect the fuck out of the position. It's just corners have to be confident is all I'm saying. So a lot of times they're going to be like, you know, I'm worth $10 million. And dudes are like, go get your money. Like I say that to say when Aaron Rodgers quite possibly, you know, if we have the GOAT and best ever conversation, I like the way some people have framed that with Brady's the GOAT,

Rodgers might be the best ever. Like the guy that just makes you go, wow. You know, I think when you have a guy like that on your team don't you want to win a super bowl don't you want him back in the building i mean bakhtiari bought him a golf cart like how's that seem to be going like seems like everybody's pretty happy to have him back um and you know i think the guy who's really on the hot seat in green bay you kind of want to be randall cobb but you kind of don't want to be Randall Cobb. This is tough.

If you don't play well this year, they're going to be like, yo, we fought the Trojan War over Randall Cobb. They fought a fucking war over Randall Cobb. You know how cool and terrifying it is to be Randall Cobb? Listen, I don't think that is the exact way to describe the situation, but Randall Cobb is the – he is the picture of, like, Aaron being like, yeah, this is the first of many. And I think Randall's going to play well.

But you're 100%. I think our first thoughts were like, all right, Randall got a ball out. Hey, this is going to have to be the thing. Yeah, he does. And, you know, like you and I were talking offline, Pat, but, like, you talk about, oh, this isn't it. Some people have said it's not a championship locker room or something. Yes.

You know, that it's maybe it's not like maybe the chemistry is messed up. No, I think the chemistry in the locker room is fine. I think the chemistry between upstairs and the locker room ain't great there. And I think that what Aaron did, and this was really good of him as he was laying out the situation, is he went to bat for players in the past. I mean, that's the kind of guy he is where he thinks about his teammates. And, you know, you could see that most of the grumblings in the offseason were like dissatisfaction with upstairs, whether it was, you know,

Zedaria Smith, who's an absolute dog, and you should never let him leave the building. You know, I mean, golly, it's like pass rush porn. It's awesome. But like Zedaria Smith, those guys that were kind of bitching they weren't bitching about Aaron Rodgers like guys can play for the name on the back of the

jersey and by that I mean like all your teammates names I don't mean like everybody makes it an A or B thing either you play for the name on the back of your jersey or you play for the name on the front of it. No, you can play for your teammates too. And I think what you're going to have there, even if they're pissed at, I still am afraid to say his name, Gutenkunz,

even if you're pissed at Brian G, you're still playing for Aaron Rodgers and Zedaria Smith and all those guys. I mean, you're playing for each other. So I think that team's going to be close. Trent Dilfer described it as a bunker mentality. And I think that is such a great way to describe that. And I think the locker room, by the way, after watching what Aaron's doing, for different reasons, like for me and for you,

I think you're a guy that you love that just walks out of the building. Somebody that is looking right at their boss who's fucking up and saying, fuck you, like I have a lot of respect for that. Like, that is something that I love. And guys are going to have respect for what he's saying for former players. Guys are going to have a lot of respect for maybe their futures. Like, Jordan Love is watching this potentially going like, hey, thank you. So, like, if I end up being the player that I was traded up in the first round to be,

maybe my life will be different here as well. I think the team will love it even more. I'm happy you do. We have to get you out of here. You're welcome. I can't thank you enough as well. I think the team will love it even more. I'm happy you do. We have to get you out of here. I can't thank you enough, man. You're the best. Of course, man. Sorry about the billboards.

No, you get your money, dude. Hey, get your money, dude. Oh, yeah. Money. Get your money, dude. Yeah, get your money. Yeah, get your money, dude. Do what you got to do, ladies and gentlemen.

Only one time. Come on. Only one time. Come on. Only one time. How many years were you in the league? 11. 10 times he did not win. Yikes. Yeah, it's bad.

It's really bad. Only once was he the Walter Payton Man of the Year. But, hey, great host of the Greenlight Pod. Two-time Super Bowl champion. Very deep thinker. Well-spoken. Only won Walt's Babe Man of the Year one time. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Long.

Hey, Chris. How are y'all? Hey, see you, Chris. Thank you, man. He was out. He does have something to do. We overstayed. We did the whole thing.

Yeah. He's a very busy guy. Very. I mean, is he not insanely busy out there? What just happened? We just have full glitch right there? Yeah, I don't know. What just happened?

Cyber attack. Is everything all right? Are we getting attacked? We're good. You know, while that conversation was happening, there was a lot of text messages going off in my phone.

You got, and I gave a little peeksy there while we were towards the end of it. What the hell is going on in the NFL right now? There is – We have some breaking news, unfortunately. Well, first of all, thanks to Chris Long, by the way.

I hope you have a great day. Thank you. There has been a lot of activity in the group text for people that weren't in the conversation. I literally looked down about five minutes ago, six minutes ago, and there is – What happened? This has to be a big deal. I've got good news and bad news for you i'm always ahead let's go with the good news good news your old friend alberto

riveron is retiring from the nfl let's go hey hey whoa whoa whoa we don't know him as a person correct correct all right hey al hell of a run, dude. Hey, congrats. Thank you. Al, thank you for everything you did, okay, for the game and your service. There's a couple things you did that I didn't necessarily enjoy. A lot of things. But after learning more information about what you were being told to do versus

what my expectations were, vastly different. Thanks for everything. It's a shame, man. It's a real shame. The game will miss you, Mr. McRon. It will. Thanks for everything. Good news. Alright, we gotta get to a break. Bad news. Don't want to hear the bad news. Okay for everything. It's a shame, man. It's a real shame. The game will miss you, Mr. McRonin. Thanks for everything. Good news. All right, we got to get to a break. Don't want to hear the bad news. That was a good news. We're going right into a break. Great conversation with Chris Long.

Now we go right into a break. What happened? Your better friend, Walt Anderson, is replacing him. Oh, no. So, they went with somebody older than Alberto Riveron? Uh-huh. Like, hey, Walt. Walt.

Walt and I have actual beef, all right? Walt and I tried to ruin my life in the London game. Okay? Walt did. He got an offsides on me. When my cadence was not offsides at all. We should have been able to go for two actually from the one yard line

on an extra point for the 15. That Vinatieri actually had to kick a 38 yard extra point instead of a 33 yard extra point because my cadence hurt! Hurt! Hurt! Okay, and they had a D tackle that was very large. Okay, and he was doing damage. He jumps offsides, flag gets called.

All of a sudden there's a ref meeting happening, okay. And Matt Overton, our long snapper, actually pokes his little ear into the ref meeting. All the other refs say false start, 90, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Walt looks at him, looks at me and goes, I'm calling it on number one. False start, kicking team, number one. Oh start. Kicking team. Number one. Oh, no. Whatever it is. Five-yard penalty.

So now Vinatieri's mad at me. Right. He's pissed off at me. I hate Walt at this point. Then I have to be reminded that Walt didn't let us use any of the broken footballs in London either. He actually had us kick brand-new fucking footballs because the broken footballs he threw to the side and did something else with. brand new fucking footballs because the broken footballs he threw to the side and did something else with. So Walt and I have personal beef,

but let's just assume he can't be worse than what has been happening in there. But there is a chance that this was not a good hire. There is a chance that the reviews that we've all questioned on Twitter, and, you know, Twitter never comes together for anything. Twitter is never on the same side of things. There is a lot of times when these reviews happen and people are challenging things that the entire internet, even the team that will get screwed over from a penalty being overturned, all on the same side.

And somehow the messaging that came out of Alberto Riveron's review, Command Center, was the complete opposite of that. Everybody's like, what are we doing? Then you got the people, why are we challenging? It's taking more time. Yada, yada, yada. It's bad for the game. Why are we doing technology? Why are we using technology? I'm like,

let's make the game right. Let's utilize technology. We got 4K cameras, 8K cameras. They move at what? 7,000 frames a second or 8,000 frames a second. Let's utilize that for the good. I thought there was a chance that maybe the technology was too advanced for

the people that were maybe looking at it. Sure. It took a long time. Now we do have the Hawkeye review system. And it's not just television producers deciding what replays the review system or people are allowed to look at, which is mind-boggling that that's been happening for so long. We just learned of that. What is it?

happening for so long we just learned of that what is it it's the um it's the uh synchronized synchronized motion motion replay yes ah whatever it is they're gonna be able to see all the clips of the play on one particular screen so the review should get better you would think it would have got better they would have used new technology maybe one with somebody who could probably be able to utilize it in a very efficient quick fashion and also maybe has you know bright eye bushy tail younger eyes in this whole thing make this thing speed up quicker instead to get the oldest ref that was ever on a field and uh a guy that i had personal beef with uh which let's not make this all about me i'm sure there's a lot of people that have beefs with Walt.

But he has to do better than what it has been. Hopefully the NFL will allow it to work. Well, on the bright side, if it doesn't, at least we got a guy to, you know, aim the vitriol at. Got him. Yeah, but how? This is billions and billions of dollars. How is that? Now, Walt has been around the game a long time, okay?

Contributions for decades and decades. Very thankful for that. Okay? Very thankful for anybody that, especially at that position where nobody likes you. Right? Nobody likes you. Yeah. I appreciate it.

But I think towards the end, everybody said, okay, we don't want Walt on the field. And then now they're like, you know what? Let's put Walt in charge of fucking everything. What are we doing? Walter might be a maestro with that Xbox controller, and that's why they're bringing him in, you know? Spread chicken. Now that the world's opening back up,

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We were hyping it up too much. That's why we said enjoy it. That's what happens. And the first couple times we talked about his heater you know i wanted to i wanted to put it out there like hey we're potentially and we kind of just kind of moved right by it right yesterday i got a little bit arrogant you know i got a little bit cocky i we started hammer we're like hey this hey it was 18 and 4 in his last 22 and we were making these all public bets by the way this isn't like

a post and afterwards he's calling it how it is i thought it was potentially gonna happen but i in his last 22 and we were making these all public bets by the way this isn't like a posting afterwards he's calling it how it is i thought it was potentially gonna happen but i want to let you know what happened last night isn't gumpy no just because there was one little hurdle in a run that has been majestic doesn't mean you're gonna get on the other side of that thing and finish strong you're about to get back into that heater that you were once on for five six months straight bud don't you worry about last night gumpy we'll bounce back tonight and then we got footy starting this weekend i mean let's go hey speaking of footy hey hey messy ain't going barcelona

it is isn't it messy hey the messy situation's getting messy, dude. I guess it's further than it's ever been apart on these negotiations. I was told by our soccer expert, Gumpy, he was a free agent to become a Barcelona at a 60% reduced salary after winning the COVID Copa Cup down there. And now he's not going back. You said the entire league was pitching him money to keep him there. What's going on? Is he pissed off at the entire country?

Turns out when you ask an entire league to pay a guy's salary to play for just one team, might not work out that way. Oh, so the rest of the teams were saying, we're not going to help you pay for the best player. You beat the shit out of us and we'll pay you for it. Okay, so hold on because that's why we were so surprised by soccer doing that we're like wow people were paying to keep the superstar in the league now that was just all one big fugace that was not real feels as if

soccer is awesome there's so many dramatics why i was just like uh-huh you know everything's the world cup basically the storylines behind it's like baseball here. I mean, it is. Soccer is fascinating. I can see how you guys get hook, line, and sinker into that thing all the way. If he's available, the Chicago Fire need to give Messi $500 million right now. Hey, Donner at Kanye's house?

Oh, that's true. The Atlanta United? That's right. Yeah, with Josef Martinez who is a goal scorer and by the

I talked to him and he doesn't speak much English so it had to go through a translator but I made him I made him laugh a couple times

nice there you go and it was an interview for SeatGeek out there I went out there because SeatGeek became the main ticketer for MLS

and we got there and everybody i was talking to for ckey uh none of them spoke english wow so it was i spoke to four or five different translators and tim howard came through at the end of the day full uniform on stop by just talk to me he said it was very nice for me he probably said that to everybody but uh he was awesome he laughed he whistled he had a lot of energy. I feel like we played Bop It. Great game. Bop It is a great way to, if you can't speak the same

language, like let's go ahead and get it. Everybody kind of gets it. He was electrifying. He's a player. Now, Kanye's living in his stadium. They're shooting up lights like the Pope has been decided upon or whatever. Donda might be coming out soon, but get messy on the Atlanta United. They'll be filling

up that Sphincter Stadium like this. Kanye's house. By the way, if you don't have to pay the transfer fee, I'm not sure if you do. If there's no transfer fee, another team could just pay Messi. Fucking absurd. Well, that's what we're saying. The Portland Timbers. Yeah, exactly. The Seattle Sounders.

Along this crew, maybe. Hey, let's play this stadium. Toronto FC. Oh, maybe. Hey, let's go to the stadium. Toronto FC. Oh, could you imagine when Messi's playing in the MLS? We're winning the Copa, the Conceifa, and the Europes, and the World Cup. Oh, my God. The soccer community is going to throw a fit. Shout out, you being an MLS expert,

Yosef Martinez scored two goals yesterday for Atlanta United. You knew it. You should see him play Bop It, dude. Did he play with his feet or his hands? I don't remember. I think somebody did use their feet. Who else? There's Mohamed.

I think the guy for Seattle. I almost said Sanudo. Clint Dempsey? No, Clint Dempsey was not there. He was like the MVP of the league, I think. Yeah, it was pretty interesting. These translators too did not deliver my questions in the fashion that I... It actually turned into

me questioning their delivery. I need a little bit more energy whenever you ask that question. And then all of a sudden the personnel is understanding what I'm saying. We had quite an interesting thing, but we're soccer experts and America's about to be the greatest. That's awesome. I can't believe Messi's going to be in the MLS.

Let's go. Just like Wayne Rooney. Just like David Beckham. Terry O'Reilly. Ibrahimovic. Just like all the greats have done, Messi's coming to the MLS. Chris John is probably not far behind. I mean, say hello to the new world power in soccer.

That's us. Speaking of soccer expert out of Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. AJ! AJ. Oh, nice shirt. Now we know why. Good shirt.

What's up? I do appreciate the fact that you go... Hey, actually, first off, I forgot. I didn't mean to cut you off, but congratulations, Walt Anderson,

68 years young. 68 is the new 25. The dude is going to kill it. Congrats to Walt and his family. I hope Riveron gets a good gig, maybe with a network afterwards. So good luck, Walt. I can't wait to see you in action, hopefully tonight. Hey, thank you, AJ.

Yeah, attaboy. AJ, you're a hero, man. Thank you. You're a hero for that. You're a good steward of the game. You know what I mean? You're very nice to say things like that, especially to somebody

that has committed five decades of their life to NFL football, which Walt Anderson has done. I mean, it is fascinating how this man has committed so much of his time to the game and to the league to make it what it is. And we appreciate Walt for that. I mean, don't we? We appreciate it. Thank you,

Walt. We appreciate Walt for that. But I think there is still time for Walt to look. I mean, don't we? We appreciate it. We appreciate Walt for that. But I think there is still time for Walt to look commish, right in the eyes and say hey, I ain't the fucking right guy to do this. You know what I mean? I think Walt could potentially say, and maybe Walt's tryout audition like Robert Griffin III's was

better than they've ever seen before. Now that would mean he would have to be better than Alberto Riveron which is going to be tough. That's going to be tough to do. But also Blandino back there. I think Pereira, you know. So maybe they love what Walt is potentially going to be. But, AJ, this is a bad decision, especially on Hall of Fame game day. Like, what do we even know?

How does this happen? How does this happen, AJ? You came in here pandering, obviously, to Walt Anderson's family, which I'm assuming he's a good guy. Fuck me family, which I'm assuming he's a good guy. Fuck me over, but I'm assuming he's a good guy. Okay, I bet that's the case. How is this the decision that is made, AJ? Well, okay, give me some other options.

Who else would you want to have this gig? You! You! Any ex-player. Well, this is just like, though, anytime a coach gets hired to be a head coach somewhere, and it was like, oh, terrible job. All right, please tell me who I should hire. Or if you're saying, hey, you need to fire this coach yeah maybe but can you give me a list of candidates that will be better than this person hey here we go here's an empty sheet of paper all right this is a better fucking candidate i think yep i i wish they would have just kept like

a a three man like a maybe a rotating thing it's's just, now Walt's going to be great, okay? He has seen every situation. He remembers back when the NFL, you know, players were working on the side, not just full-time. He's been around a long time, okay? I think he came in the league in 96. I don't know if guys had side gigs back then. Well, I don't believe you.

It felt more like 76 with the way he was calling games in the 2000s. Okay. So I just think there had to have any ex-player. How come there isn't like ex-players, for instance, should be the ones that they are putting a pipeline into officiating for. There's already an issue with ex-players going potentially broke or post-football insurance situation, like what life is after the league. I don't know why that isn't something. And now granted, refs are not going to be happy to hear that because there's people that commit their lives to high school officiating and peewee officiating to get to college officiating, get to a big conference and get to the NFL. I understand that there is a pipeline, but I don't fully understand why we're not just

teaching ex-players that are maybe in their 40s, 30s, guys that maybe love the game or great at the game but can't do anything. Like, let's just get them in there. And especially in a position that technology is going to be used, why wouldn't you want somebody that is much more comfortable with the technology in a position where you're going to have to utilize technology for a large portion of your job? I just, maybe Walt's driving, you know, no look. Maybe he went from T9 into the full keyboard in a beautiful fashion,

and he's on, maybe he's a big-time gamer and everything like that, but I think that's a big part of the job. I just don't, I don't know, man. I mean, maybe. So, like, let's say the NFL PR team puts out a video of Walt on his Twitch stream tonight playing against Billy Tooth. Does that make you feel better? Much better. 100%. Much better. Because there's

a lot of other things. Get on it. You know they're watching. They should get on it then. Get out in front of this thing. Get people on Walt's side then. You know, there's other things that that person has to do other than just the reviews. Right. You know what I mean? There's a lot of other things and Walt will probably be great at that. What does the job entail? Do we know like everything that is

in the job description? So, you know, every week there's that position or penalty of – how do they describe it? What is it? What they're enforcing. Point of emphasis. Point of emphasis. There it is.

So every week there's the point of emphasis. I think the standard protocols of games, I think they have to – are they scheduling as well? I'm not 100% sure. I mean, what scheduling as well? I'm not 100% sure. What all do they... I'm not 100% sure. If it's just review things, if Walt was brought in just to review things, we're all going to see

exactly how he does, I guess. I guess we're all going to see exactly how it does, and we're all probably going to say, never would have guessed. Never would have guessed. The same old guy had it on there. Never would have guessed. But now we got that new Hawkeye technology, AJ Hawkeye. We got that new Hawkeye technology, A.J. Hawkeye. We've got that new Hawkeye technology, I think, if it's anything like what the XFL had,

where they had what seemed to be gamers utilizing it who also knew football. There's probably some Madden players that you could teach them the rules, that they could maybe even zoom in. Have you ever seen these gamers? For instance, we had Facento in here. All right? His name is Bryce Facento. Right? That's his name? Yep. zoom in have you ever seen these gamers for instance we had faccento in here all right his name is bryce faccento right that's his name yeah he's a coach right now for a call of duty team he

was a professional call of duty player him utilizing the call of duty player with his two thumbs it looked like he was an actual fucking human he had running jumping cutting he was jumping over people's heads stabbing them then zooming in somehow and getting a replay of that and then backing out of it then throwing their gun, maybe even kicking them while he walks by, and then he was just off and running. I tried to do that thing. It's like a herky-jerky thing. It's just there has to be somebody better to handle the brand-new technology than Walt. I might be wrong.

I hope I'm wrong because I am in favor of challenges in review systems, but it feels like we're going to continue just to fuck this up every single year. And it might be because Commissioner doesn't want reviews to happen anymore. So maybe it's like, hey, let's make them so bad and so terrible that people don't want to do it so we can go back old school. Maybe that's the case. I'm not 100% sure. I don't get this at all. That would be a great way to speed up the game.

But if it's not a player, what about a coach? Can a former coach not go in there and at least give out? They can't work technology. Have you ever seen a coach try to turn a computer no no not even not even work the technology just sit next to him and be like okay that's what i assume yeah like when pat said former players i would assume they'd have them as like consultants like in the room like hey and walk and say hey what do you guys see in here what do you think and you bounce ideas off each other yeah so perry full i think he was a coach one point, and now he is in it as well.

So coaches are represented in there. Refs are represented in there. But players aren't represented in there. And I don't understand how or why that is the case. But I just, for instance, I feel like I'm super positive about refs, by the way. I just want them to be treated like everybody else. They are a massive part of the game. I actually think they should have Pro Bowl votes. I actually think they should have Pro Bowl votes.

I think refs should have Pro Bowl votes. They're on the field. They're in the game. But they are such a big part of the game. We have to make sure that they're good. I got a lot of respect. I can never do it. But let's just move along.

Thanks. Wait, did you like that? You like to do 15 minutes there? I was trying to talk to you about something else and you said... I was trying to move on from it. You just kept going because I know it triggers. Sure. Hey. How are you, by the way? Did you watch these sons of bitches

throwing those 16-pound rocks last night? Yeah, so somebody all of a sudden gets on the bandwagon, huh? After you just trash them on the air during the... Whoa! I see you backpedaling to them. Did you and Nick text each other last night and say, hey, let's have the same take on this thing?

Because Nick sent me a text immediately afterwards. I saw you tweet something, Cronwell's going down, he's killing, whatever you text. Krauser! It's Krauser! Krauser! I was like, oh, okay, yeah, of course, because the guy's winning the gold, now Pat's on his side. Listen, Ryan Krauser is a powerhouse.

All right? Krauser throws this rock further than anybody in the history of throwing this rock. This rock has been thrown for thousands of fucking years. There's a Texas cowboy who looks like he just got out of a professional wrestling match after throwing these things. He was taking the tape off. Greatest of all time. Most explosive human of all time.

I was pumped for him in Kovacs, I believe him and kovacs two americans gold and silver how you doing keep it moving while i was watching it though they're fucking tanks these dudes oh yeah these dudes are tanks and they're the olympic testing thing right what's that usada or whatever they can't be on i don't know how these dudes are as explosive as they are without taking anything they look like they're power lifters olympic lifters they're obviously very explosive i just don't understand why nobody told krauser hey get in a fucking three-point stance go tackle the goddamn quarterback you know i don't i don't know how this is what this guy krauser i think he gets his hands on you you're fucked i mean he's oh yeah very athletic too he's spinning around.

I'm like, how is this guy not a tackle? Especially in Texas. What happened? I appreciate that he's setting himself up. He's got to have great feet. You know, like a lot of times you see a big dude, and when someone thinks, oh, that guy could be a starting tackle, and he has awful feet and can't walk,

you know this guy has great feet already, so that's one of the biggest things. Did you see him spinning yesterday? He never gets a penalty either. They say he gets better and better every single throw. And then to keep up with him, all these other – I still do not completely understand why Shaw puts a thing. All right?

I'm just going to say it. Watching it last night, when Krauser stepped in there, it was electrifying. Okay? And when Kovacs got in there, it was awesome. Looking at these yoked fucking guys and being, how are you doing that without taking any sauce? I mean, there are zero-ohs you out there.

Do you remember Marion Jones? Oh, yeah. Shot putter? The sprinter, but her husband at the time, ex-husband now, he was a shot putter. He ended up getting busted, too. She got busted for a big PED scandal, but then he did later, but he is, you want to talk about a tank, the dude is impressive. He's listed at 6'7",

320 is Krauser. Krauser? How is he not? And there is, and I'm looking at his Wikipedia, there is no mention of football anywhere in his life. So maybe he, and by the way, congrats Krauser. Greatest of all time. Oh, he comes from a family of throwers.

Yeah, I think his grandpa was in there as well. They talked about it. And I have, hey, greatest of all time, the Kreiser family. All right? In Kovacs, I believe, would have broke some record, too, before Kreiser broke four or five of them himself in consecutive throws. He broke records, I guess. This guy, big old fucking COVID cowboy hat on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do American flag. He looked like, he literally looked like a guy getting out of fucking, like a fight or a football game afterwards. And he lost his hat on his first one, broke the Olympic record, threw it further than anybody else. Wow.

A hat's on his face. I mean, it's unbelievable, but I have no idea how nobody had this guy line up with his left foot a little bit further back than his right foot. And then just, Hey, just all we need you to do is just get to a

spot and then use that he's the most explosive person the olympic sport of being explosive has ever seen he had to have been able to put those hands oh yeah i i just but i should invite him to camp like i think a head coach in the nfl should invite him to camp i think bill did did he really well no not really but i think bill's it's in the works him and ernie are thinking about bringing him in hey there was a time there in the nfl colts in particular where they were scout no stone left unturned basically for an athlete if we could potentially teach them a couple things maybe they can be a contributor on our team it might be a two to three year process like that was something that was being talked about in our

locker room i don't know about other where other places we had a i think a shot putter from new zealand or australia that came in for a workout warmed up so long was dead tired by the time the workout started and the workout is just like they're trying to kill you in those workouts it's just like a conditioning test basically so he didn't work out but can we get Krauser on the line? The Bengals should call Krauser right now. Allegedly, Joey Burrow is not as comfortable. He'll get there, though. Everybody's kind of turning their back on Joey Burrow's ability.

Don't forget, he is an absolute stud. He will find it. But I enjoyed watching that last night. Also, I mean, our 4x1 team, they said it was going to be a problem going into the race. They said the exchange, passing that baton around for the American team, has been a little bit of an Achilles heel, and everybody else seemed to have that thing perfect. But we had a little bad exchange in that.

Carl Lewis jumped out. Didn't Carl Lewis give a hot take about it? It's good to get Carl's opinion on it. Oh, Carl, he's like a – Straight, you know, by the book, called Carl. Carl is a firestorm, right? Every time he does anything? I mean, I can't even recall. I know he has one of the worst

national anthems of all time. Oh, that's him? Yeah. Okay, so that's what I remember the name from. It was bad. He won nine Olympic gold medals. He was a stud. So, let's not just remember him for his singing maybe.

Right. What did he say? He basically said they were no better than an AAU team. Well, they weren't. Geez, is the AAU team sleeping on cardboard box beds, Carl? Yeah, good question. And also somebody, I read somebody's, somebody put a comment on some Instagram post that basically said the U.S. team got there late maybe, like with only five days before they didn't have time to actually settle in.

Oh, they're jet lagged still. Yeah, basically that's what the comment came from. And it was from an Olympian. I don't know which – I don't know what Olympian it was, so I don't remember if it was the sprinters or if you go in at different times, but you're all there at the opening ceremony. How does that work out? I'm not 100% sure.

But, you know, the Olympics have not lost their fastball. Just know that time after watching last night. Skateboarding was incredible, too. You said you were loving the skateboarding last night. No, no, I didn't. I did, you know, flip on Kreiser for a little bit. But, yeah, I am burned out on the Olympics. Come on!

We still got the finals in basketball, which, again, you can't fucking watch it, so it doesn't matter. And then, you know, baseball, we do have a gold medal opportunity. So I'm still kind of hanging around, but I'm just about done. Okay, so last night's coverage of Krauser was also happening at the same time as some running events were. And Krauser was about to go, but race like the moment we were all we were just forced to watch a race in the after moment to like see like what the times were they cut away because they thought Krauser was going to be up and then Krauser wasn't up actually he was just kind of walking around then it had to go back to the thing I think that was the type of thing that

potentially hit people have been judging MBC for in like the gold medal game like that will be tough to find. That will be a tough game to find. But just like we said, whenever we lost to Nigeria and Australia early, the boys are going to figure it out. Popovich is going to get them running a little motion, we have a little operation. How are you doing?

Keep it moving. We'll play this game. We're going to win a gold medal. We're back. Kevin Durant and Dame said our generation is going to win. Everybody's talking about our generation. That ain't going to happen. We're going to win this thing. But we ain't going to be able to watch it. Handball,

have you seen one game on television? Nope. Only replays. I saw the girl from Ohio won the gold in the pole vault. Yeah. I didn't see that. She's from Northeast Ohio. I saw Gonzo tweeted at her to congratulate her. Oh, no.

Oh, man. So she'll never win gold again. That's why they didn't show it anymore. So she was celebrating and she was pumped up and then she looked at her mentions. Yeah, exactly. And then all of a sudden there was a lot of attacks of Gonzo in there probably. You're with Gonzo? I bet you Gonzo probably sent a follow-up DM like, hey, sorry about how toxic.

The celebration. The U.S. I didn't know i thought they would like you because you won gold but i apparently it's i'm still under receiving good luck gonzo love you gonzo gonzo's in it i guess still oh hey i waited to talk about this until you got on i was excited for this and And also Chris Long. We had a great long conversation with him earlier. But do you see Jimmy Graham? Jimmy Graham, I believe, shares the same opinion that a lot of people have,

that maybe two people that are on the screen have, that he hates the NFLPA. Jimmy Graham's like, hey, this is a shitty operation, whatever you guys got going on. It seems like you're not really looking out for all the players, just some of the players. A lot of the decisions seem to be a bit selfish. You're making deals that don't make any sense for anybody except for yourselves. And some players have seen the head of this motherfucker at four different events and one day at the Super Bowl in four

different suits that had to have cost a few thousand dollars. What the fuck is going on over there? So there are some people that view that that way. Jimmy Graham now with the vaccination protocol situation puts out a tweet that is basically the NFL PA's memo to either the NFL or to all the players. It is wild what's going on behind the scenes right now. We knew the vaccination protocols were going to be a massive ordeal with how a locker room operates. There are many different ideals, many different views. There are people that are very firm in their stance in a lot of things because guess what? They've had a lot of success being stubborn in their ways

and thinking the way they do for whatever reason or however they think the way they do. And once I heard the stats that it was 27 teams were above 90% and then eight teams were above 95% or something like that. And the 85%, whatever the case was, I thought, oh, this is all getting figured out. Jimmy Graham said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was basically forced into getting the vaccine. Now I'm just confused.

And the entire memo says that COVID can only be spread to a couple people, where this Delta variant can go to nine people. This Delta variant can go to nine people. And it's like, well, then what did we learn about COVID-19 that we don't know about Delta, Delta Plus, Lambda, or any other one that is potentially going to join the fraternity party that's happening? This is going to be a situation, AJ. I think it's going to continue to be a situation, especially what's going on in Minnesota

with Zimmer saying something and then Harrison Smith saying something about how Kirk Cousins is going. Cam Newton said it's too personal. There's personal stuff here. There's a lot of big names. And there's going to be, this is going to continue.ins is going. Cam Newton said it's too personal. There's personal stuff here. There's a lot of big names. And there's going to be, this is going to continue. This is going to continue, AJ.

I mean, yeah, it's only going to get magnified, I feel like. Didn't we talk yesterday on the show or a couple days ago about if you're vaccinated, you get tested once a week. Other people, it's more. Now, didn't they already switch that and say they're doing daily testing now for vaccinated players? So the NFLPA is asking for it because the NFLPA has to take the stance of health and safety is priority. Do you think the vaccinated players want to be tested every day? Well, no, no, no.

That's why that is kind of what Jimmy Graham was originally alluding to, I think. He said, I feel like I'm being punished even more now. I did what they told me to do, and now the fines are bigger. Now I'm being forced into doing more things. did what they told me to do, and now the fines are bigger. Now I'm being forced into doing more things. It's harder this year than it was last year. How is that even a thing whenever we're in a different time? But I don't know enough to know if we are in a different time or not because there's a lot of...

We're going to have to get Treader back on sometime. Not just Treader, too. I fear, AJ, the things that are making its way into my timeline should not be doing what it's doing. Mr. Mister. We're going back. No. Why do you think I sat here and tried to pump the brakes when you guys, probably for

the last eight months... You got it! You got it! You were traveling around the globe taking 15 days a month stand like Carl Lewis. You're outside and you hate fun. You were traveling around the globe taking 15 days of Mustang by Carl Lewis. Hey, AJ, here's your championship belt.

No, no. Here's your championship belt for being such a fucking hero, AJ. We'll ship it in there, won't we? Put this in an overnight. He needs this. I wish I could get this to you right now, now that you're the champion of pandering, pal. You want to cancel the game? You want to cancel the game tonight, too?

Oh, you don't want to talk about what happened? You want them to wear what, flags? You don't want them to tackle each other, too, AJ? AJ said fuck the Hall of Fame. No! Basically. I mean, this guy's been traveling around the country for the last 12 months while we've all been bunkered down. That's because we got the bunker mentality.

Yeah, that's right. But I think what Jimmy Graham was saying was, that don't change anything. This doesn't even mean anything. The hell did we do that? It's lost its fastball. Oh, man. Jimmy just wants to fly.

Well, Jimmy does take the disguise. And I don't know if he smokes dope or not, but he does fly actual planes and shit. Oh, yeah. And the thing about Jimmy. Wait's what's the dope part about well you take that i take the disguise in a different fashion than you and jimmy graham do you know yeah you don't when you're not flying the plane of course more like a hot air balloon no i'm talking i'm in the sky a lot more than you ever are dude all right captain aj hot pilot i know you i'm saying are you you're

asking i wonder if he gets all doped up and flies his helicopter and does his aerobatics no I'm just saying there's two different ways there's two different ways to take to the skies to get sky high

you know what I mean you guys choose the oh you guys choose like the oh I can die and there's a lot of pressure and I can get sick

doing this and who knows what's going to happen I just sit on my couch and take off basically which one all day Drew you fly.

Ty goes to space, though. There's a third way you can do it. Felix Baumgartner. Right outside the atmosphere. Boom. Which one does Mitt choose? Mitt lives in the space station. Mitt's actually an astronaut. He doesn't choose.

Some people fly planes, and they can kind of get around. Some people, a little bit of a prop plane just kind of at night running out of bed you know then there's obviously the smaller planes you can kind of get on that do have a a jet and everything like oh okay we're having a good time and then you get to the hawkers the falcons you go up the whole thing boeing and do the commercial and then they can become a fucking astronaut yeah that is just whenever you're you're just in a completely different planet than everybody else but you need those astronauts you know why because they're they're pushing the boundary a little bit right yeah they are that's right oh i did not know your lungs or

brain could handle that particular amount of cannabis at one time yeah he's yeah i'm taking off going to mars dude where's elon that's that? That's Mitt. And we need some of this. We do. We need some of this. I hope he doesn't change. He will. He's going to have to, I think. No, man.

If Mitt comes down from space, I don't know if we'll ever see the same Mitt that we do today. You know, right now he's kind of, he's in Neil Armstrong space. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah, so he's in like. There he is. See, I think he's. I think he's farther than that. He's going to have to get to Baumgartner. Yeah, of course. Yeah, sure. Yeah, so he's in like – There he is. See, I think he's –

I think he's farther than that. He's going to have to get to Baumgartner. Yeah, of course. Okay, at some point. But at least get down to where the billionaires were. Come on. You know what I mean? At least get down to the billionaires, and then we need you to get down to Baumgartner.

And then you can live right there because you're close to being passed out and falling out of something anyway. You should see him on Fridays for Hammered Down when everyone else is kind of like you're in Florida and Mitt's like, I can do whatever I want. He's basically the rover that's going around Mars. Just fucking... You can't ask him any questions or else his brain will explode

and then it's a completely different person. Alright, let's get back on track with Jimmy Graham though. He is voicing an opinion I think that a lot of players are probably going to voice at this point. A lot of players that were, don't you think a lot of players that were not huge fans of getting the vaccine, obviously, and then they're like, okay, well, no, I understand the situation. I'm going to get it. And now you're changing the rules and protocols. They're probably thinking like, all right, man, what's next? I could see somebody being so pissed off that is in the league, walking into a team meeting, having your coach and the NFL

tell you, you have to get vaccinated. Okay. Like, Hey, I'm fucking having it. Okay. You need you to get vaccinated. So that's the NFL telling you, then you go home and you open an email and the NFL PA is like, Hey, also good news. You're getting tested every single fucking day still at 6 a.m. That's what we want because we're looking out for your health and safety. And that player is like, so the NFL is fucking me. And in their eyes, by the way, in their eyes, I'm not saying the NFL is forcing me to do something. And the NFLPA is forcing me now to do something that I did something to not have to do. That is kind of, are these people even speaking for me? Because I'm a part of the the association i'm a part of the union as well they seem to not be speaking for me who are they speaking for and uh at adam hodge says uh adam hodge says jimmy graham is vaccinated he's frustrated

with the nflpa and frustrated that he might still have to get tested every day and find if he misses one he's talking right now about the years of miscommunication with the NFLPA. I'm about to go into week 17 playing for free too. Okay, so I don't know what that means exactly. That means he's – I don't know what that means. I think he was saying he's going to get fined so much that he's playing for free. Oh. I thought it was because of the extra game. No, it's just because he didn't get a bump in salary, but he had an extra game.

That's what it is. Oh. Oh, it's week 18. Like everybody else. Oh, yeah. 17th game. Yeah, he was very, in his thing, he was talking about how there was no real conversation about the 17th game being added. He talked about that, which

is a gripe for sounds like, remember that vote was only what, 51-49 or 50 point something to 50 point something. There's going to be, it's going to become something. I just got to keep an eye on it. I mean, they're going to try it's going to become something i just gotta keep an eye on it i mean they're going to try to make this thing not be loud but if you got some big

ass name players that on a monday after the game are saying i'm not going in for the 6 a.m fucking test all right and then they find them and then that player maybe misses the next day because that player might have a little bit of a, hey, fuck you. And which some players do have. Then they're going to find them again. Then what's going to happen? A press conference is probably going to happen. Hey, you just got fined.

Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, this is not good. Then the FLPA. I mean, it's there's a chance that the vaccination thing could become a fool in it all. Oh, this is going to become something. This is going to become something big. Now, the NFLPA is potentially pushing against a lot of the players that are pissed off about what the NFL is doing. Oh, this is going to become something. This is going to become something big now that the NFL PA is potentially pushing against a lot of the players that are pissed off about what the NFL is doing. Oh, no.

AJ, it might all happen, huh? It might all get down here. But with the PA doing it, everything is going to be – they're going to say this is for health and safety. Of course. We didn't know about this Delta variant and whatever else could come, so they're going to test you every day. So that's how they can, I guess, sit behind whatever decision they make. Because they have to sit on the side of health and safety. So the NFL almost, like, this is once again taking those pills,

looking up on the ceiling, seeing the chessboard, Roger Goodell. Okay? Roger Goodell says, yeah, we'll push the vaccination. We won't have to do anything else. And then also, if the NFLPA stands for anything that they say they do, they will also, they'll be the

ones that will say, well, we also need this, this, and this. We don't have to be the people that say that. They'll make the NFLPA do that. And Roger Goodell is tripping on those pills that Beth Harmon was on. He saw the whole thing go and he ran the open Sicilian. And now the NFL vaccination

thing is not what the players hate. Now the players are mad about what's happening with their own union. I'm sure the negotiation next time around will be just as clean as they always have been. Clean sleep for Goodell, I mean, per usual. And hopefully that does happen where some players are saying, fuck you on a Tuesday because that's

great fodder. But can you imagine the victory lap Cole Beasley's taking in Buffalo right now? Are you kidding me? He's probably walking around like, what did I say? He put out like a few. And then on the first day of training camp, he read a prepared statement. Does he have a disc tape

as well? Yeah, he put out a couple of disc tracks on vaccinations, I think he did one. Are you serious? Oh, yeah. I didn't believe it either, by the way. This is one of those things that I thought you toxic folks were trying to force me into listening to, and then I listened to it, and I'm like, well, Cole actually, he went to work

here on this. I mean, it's not necessarily a message that everybody's going to love. There's going to be a lot of people that are not happy about this, but he invested in this. Mark Cuban, he also got involved in it. Now we got Zimmer, Kirk Cousins, and Harrison Smith

on differing pages for this. Other places, there's entire situations popping off in Washington. It's just... Kid Rock chimed in. Oh, no. He did. He said, if the vaccine was the worst thing I've ever put in my body, I probably would not have got it.

So... Thank you, Bob. So he did get it. So he watched Mark Schlairs. Yeah. So he's telling people... Neon green relish. He went and got a couple of big franks out. All beef franks. Some of that neon green relish. You went and got a couple big franks out. All beef franks. Some of that neon green relish.

Mustard. Ketchup. Diet Coke because I put on a few pounds. I just don't trust it. I've done my research. Really? Oh my god.

I have not watched it you have to my favorite movie right now hold on we put out the photo of me on that down on the thing and I said what did they force me to watch

that forced me to do this I don't like watching people jump off the high dive into shit like i don't you know what i mean like i i don't it's i've never enjoyed it it's something where physical injuries now in this entire world like i just get uncomfortable i think it's called tech i'm not 100 sure i was in a class one time they said that i'm not sure if it's right where you feel like almost uncomfortable for somebody else or something like that and that was kind of how that whole thing. Yeah, that's the photo right there So I'm watching the beginning of it and I'm like, oh stink like fully committed though

Because he even hit like an in case you missed it post Oh, yeah after he had already been into war or whatever with everybody that was going completely against him Which this is that world there is people that are like that And there are people that obviously this is going to continue to go for however long this is going to continue to go. But I watched it in there, man. Stink. Hey, he went to work in there.

Yeah. I mean, he jumped into that war. He jumped into that war, at least with some well thought out. He's all in. Good. I respect him being all in. Don't you? Like he was like, Hey, let me just, I'll just make something maybe middle,

middle of the road. Right. You know? No, he said, no,, let me just, I'll just make something maybe middle of the road, right? You know, he said, no, I'm going to edit this. I'm going to play multiple characters. Like, it was impressive. He was sitting on the toilet at one point. I did see a lot of his thigh. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

You think he was really dumping? Oh, yeah. Probably. It's a good scene. He's a method actor. He poops like five times a day with that chili, too, I thought. I've done my research. Yeah.

My buddy, Spencer Havner, I play with in Green Bay. I always, like, things like that. He's like, research um yeah yeah my buddy uh spencer havner i played with in green bay always like things like that he's like oh it makes my face warm and i like it makes sense to me like watching things that make you feel uncomfortable for the person i do a lot of i mean you did it to me down there in orlando with the first five minutes of us being around each other with that one video just secondhand embarrassment yeah that might be but it's not embarrassment always it's i mean kind of i guess yeah but it's not embarrassment it's just like uncomfortable like oh can't do it like watching dac get hurt it's like those type of injuries like that always yeah i can't watch those but that's a different feeling that one's like a sick to my stomach true

when i'm watching like uh which i don't like watching either i'm not like somebody that enjoys watching the uh like people get fucked up like i fucked up. The golf cart running people over the people had there, I could not watch it. I'm like, oh my god, is that an Achilles they're busting out right there? I feel like I feel the pain. There's people in my life that don't, obviously, and they're the ones that force me to watch stuff.

And AJ followed suit immediately upon us meeting each other. I'm shocked at the sheltered life that you have lived. That's all. That's all. I got my blinders on. Listen, I got my blinders on all day, every day, just trying to whoop, whoop, whoop. How we living?

Oh, you're outside of it? Fuck off. All right, see you later. That's kind of just how it is. You know what I mean? Yeah. Hey, good. Hey, we need everybody.

We need all different kinds of opinions and brains out there. Well, see, now that's an entire conversation in and of itself. And I think that's something that me and Chris Long talked about a little bit, people voicing their opinions about the league that I was very lucky to play in and witness, and you obviously be a legend in, and Chris, Super Bowl champion, Walter Payton, man of the year one year. Just watching people talk about the sport and how it happens and how it works in the business side and the league has been fascinating.

So what I'm saying is I'm not sure we need all types of opinions out there. I think some that are just not right shouldn't be voiced. But in whose eye is it right or wrong? And then that's an entire other fucking conversation. Keep going, man. Well, that's why I keep the blinders on. I think you should explore this one. Keep going with it.

Well, that's the issue is that this is what I do normally, so then I have to just keep the blinders on. I think you should explore this one. Keep going with it. Well, that's the issue. This is what I do normally, so then I have to just keep the blinders on. Blinders. Blinders on. Just get out of it. Don't even start diving in there. But the world right now, there's a lot of that. There should be a split.

I mean, there's the cable media, and then there's the internet media. Two completely different things, but under the same umbrella, kind of like that Olympic explanation with the justifications or whatever the hell it's called. disciplines there it is yeah all right let's talk about some other stuff going on the nfl before we have to get to a break two hours straight where we go 40 plus minutes without a break in the hour terrible radio just let everybody know that that's football says who that's football i think That's football, man. I think it's good. I think you're right. It's not the dumb analytics and how they tell you when you should break

and all that to keep people around, but I think people that are invested in the show like they are, they like it. You're not going to just jump out of a conversation because it's time to go to break. Our stats say average watch time, 41 minutes. I have no idea why, but I appreciate the fuck out of you. I don't know if you're at the beginning of your 41 minutes

or the end of it right now. If you're towards the end of it, I understand you got sick of me talking too much. I apologize. We'll be back tomorrow probably doing the same fucking thing. But serious listeners, we're doing a Best Of tomorrow. Yeah. YouTube? Best Of tomorrow. YouTube will be live. Come on over, sir.

So tech was an issue. Tech was an issue, AJ. I guess last week we, because I have to get on a plane you know to head to wherever smack don is which um this week's down in tampa we still have i believe we still have a lease on a house down there but antonio brown is living in it right now okay so you can't stop or we can can. Don't try to. Because he will bag of dicks at you if you. Okay. He's a different man now.

He's come way, way, way out of that point of his life. Don't be a Steelers fan. Well, past history, future results. No. No. Previous performance predicts. I think it's something. It's something in there.

That's some corporate something there. Really? You're preparing to fail, Pat. They have like a... I just want you prepared if you go to that house. Anyways, he is in our house that we were in down there in the beach house. And he was posting of him in the house while we still had the lease that we weren't allowed to get out of, even though we needed to get out of.

So I believe the person that owns that house is getting two payments there so since we paid for we said well we're gonna stop down for at least a day or two this upcoming month we were told we're not allowed to do it so i'm sure if we had some lawyers we could get in there but ab's gonna love that house it is a beautiful house i'm pumped for him he posted on the internet of him working out in our pool much cleaner than whenever we were down there. New chemicals. We see what's going on. I think we should look at this as a positive.

Super Bowl champion, touchdown catcher, Antonio Brown, whole lot of money. Whole lot of money. Man who has, you know, at this point, high standards on things. Same house as us. I forgot my nail clippers in there.

He's found them, probably. I left, did we leave a TV in there, too, that was taped to the goddamn? Nah, I believe we, yeah, we got that. We got that place. You do have a nail clipper. Hey, my bathroom had no, I wonder, Antonio Brown, I wonder if he put on curtains or whatever. My bathroom had no curtains. Oh, yeah.

And we got in late the first time we were there. Flipped on the lights, you know, go to the bathroom. I'm just looking out. There's an entire town, basically. Oh, my God. All right. So, had to hang towels up on that thing. Probably wasn't nice for the neighborhood, but I enjoyed it.

Good luck to Antonio Brown with that thing. Probably wasn't nice for the neighborhood, but I enjoyed it. Good luck to Antonio Brown with that house. Let's talk a little bit here about Urban Meyer announcing winners and losers during drills and special teams to everybody. How do you feel about it? This is changing the culture down there. Accountability. Let's go ahead and celebrate the wins and also allow people to

understand who lost here. Although Phil might say something different happened. Might later. Maybe you're not able to tell who's the winner understand who lost here although film might say something different happened might later yeah maybe maybe you're not able to tell who's the winner and who's the loser in some drills but what are your thoughts on this public announcement of success uh i think it's all right i think keeps everybody definitely dialed in on their toes all practice you know like when you if you know you have eight gassers after practice the whole practice it could be two and a half hours long it doesn't

matter it's in the back of your mind you're always like all right yeah sure i just got done with inside run 10 straight reps but i know we're running gassers at the very end i feel like with this looming at all times where everybody could just stop practice and do one-on-ones and then they announce it who winners or losers like it keeps everybody on their toes so i don't know how they can are they going to make a rule that they can't do this because they banned doing, like, Oklahoma drill? Is it like this a way around it? I think it's – I think it's a punt or a kick protection drill where it was – somebody running it was like a one-on-one blocking drill, like a lane drill.

I think. Tebow, yeah. Tebow was doing that. Yeah, if I read it right. And by the way, that is a very difficult drill to get around professional athletes. So the blocker should, because of the constraints on the space that you have the blocker should win but there's a lot of times in film you watch and it's like oh you held the shit out of that person right there and it's actually like in the game there there would be actually uh no return 10 yard penalty from the where the ball was spotted and everything like

that i that was my biggest thing it was like they got to be very sure of themselves to just be announcing winners on the field there because that's a chaotic, it's probably a pretty chaotic situation. But I like these boosts in the atmosphere, you know, celebration happening. There's going to be some players that hate it. Obviously, there's going to be some players that like it, just like Joe Judge. There's going to be players who say, I ain't for the shits here. Like, I ain't doing this. And there's going to be some people that buy all the way in. That's kind of like

every single team. There's going to be plenty of players that don't like it, but you're going to want to win. You don't want to be announced as a loser, especially multiple times over and over. What if you just get known as the guy that keeps getting beat in these one-on-ones? Every media reporter and fan that has a phone with internet on it, which is

everybody, AJ Hawk just lost his third straight one-on-one in the announcement. And it could be the thing where we go into the film and we realize like, no, the dude was holding me the whole time. And you get in the film like, hey, my bad, AJ. Actually, you're 3-0, not 0-3. Oh, cool.

Yeah, we'll tell all the media people and all the fans. But it's just to lighten the atmosphere, I assume. To bring that competitive edge. We're going to live on the edge that Urban's trying to institute down there. Maybe it'll work. Who knows? Maybe Joe Judge will work.

Maybe it won't. Maybe Zimmer and Kirk Cousins will throw hands at each other. Who knows? So, earlier in the show, when Gumpy, our footy handicapping aficionado, our soccer diehard fan came in here and there was a little bit of a ripple of a news that once we were told that Leo Messi was going back to Bartholona, it was a done deal and the rest of the league was going to pay for it. We were actually lied to because today it was leaked earlier that Leo

Messi's situation has gotten super messy somehow, someway. Now, Barcelona has confirmed Messi, who has been a member of the Barcelona

soccer club since he was 13 years old 21 years At this place Fucking gone No way It was official Old Messi Will not continue at Barcelona

After just a couple weeks ago we were told That he was going to be at Barcelona He was only becoming a free agent to re-sign with Barcelona. And here we are, best player on earth alongside Cristiano Ronaldo, is potentially coming to the MLS. And this is something that we need not underestimate the impact this will have on the soccer world. As we win the ConcaAF Cup and the Gold Cup, and then we're going to win the World Cup and the Europe's Cup

and the COPA Cup and the Australian Cup and the Super League Cup. When we win all this, it's going to be tough for the rest of the world to continue to talk down upon us about not understanding the beautiful game. Messi's coming to the MLS. Is that what was confirmed today? Whenever it said he's leaving Barcelona, our soccer expert at Publica. Stop saying the city.

Anything is a possibility at this point after he left Barcelona. this point after he left barthelona uh fabrizio romano has updated his tweet about uh messy situation with an emoji red alarm like a hockey goal was scored hashtag messy official statement despite having reached an agreement between bartha and leo messy and with the clear intention of both parties to sign a new contract today it would not be possible to formalize due to economic and structural obstacles parenthesize spanish la liga regulations oh my god the entire league is kicking leo messi out of spain this is unbelievable we will not do that in the United States whenever he's a part of the MLS, but they had an agreement in principle,

it sounds like, and then day of, it was no longer the same as it once was, like it was Pawn Stars, Leo's out. What's that mean for Bartholona? What's that mean for the soccer community as a whole? Will Bartholona have to fold completely

now that they lose the best player that they've ever had? Is this an Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay Packers like Leo Messi and Barthelona have to fold completely now that they lose the best player that they've ever had? Is this an Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay Packers, like Leo Messi and Barthelona situation? Is that what's going on right now over there, Gumby? Please enlighten us how the best player on earth is no longer going to be at the organization he has been with since he was 13 years old for 21 straight years. Barthelona debt is approaching $1 billion. Whoa. That's why the Super League was being created to get them and Real Madrid out of debt.

They can't pay. Messi doesn't want to stay. Messi, Ronaldo, gone. La Liga now is a farmer's league. It stinks. Oh, wow. How do you get that much debt? Messi is going to go to PSG.

Really? With Mbappe? They got the most money. Him and Neymar loved playing together at Barthelona. It makes too much sense. Unless, and I hope this doesn't happen, Man City, his old coach, Guardiola, from Barcelona, that could happen as well. So Leo's not going from Barcelona

to the Portland Timbers? What? Stop it. What about playing soccer talk? Hey, this is big deal in the sports world. On Thursday, August 5th, AJ. How long have you been pronouncing it? I assume that's the proper pronunciation, right?

Yeah. Of course. Unless you want to be an asshole. I've been doing it for years assume that's the proper pronunciation, right? Yeah. Of course. Unless you want to be an asshole. I've been doing it for years now, dude. Sorry, I'm cultured. You normally don't use it 14 times per sentence, though. What? Well, we don't normally talk about Barcelona.

Listen, people normally... Diggs can't even do the words. What are you talking about? He's the one that taught me it's Barcelona. I've been to Barcelona. I've been to Barcelona, too, by the way. That church. Oh, my God. This time of year, Barcelona. I've been to Barcelona. I've been to Barcelona too, by the way. That church.

Oh my God. Did you go to a Barcelona game? Have you ever been to Barcelona? I didn't get to go to a Barcelona game, but I did get to see the church right in the middle of downtown down there. They've been in construction for like 200, 300 years. It is beautiful. Have you ever been to Barcelona? I have, no. I've never been there, but I do know

a group of guys that watched a guy get married in a place where George Washington was. Okay, so that is cool. I would like to say that that is cool because we are the group of guys that did that. And Ty is the guy that got married. It's George Washington. Depending upon what part of America you're in, in the language that is spoken there. But in Spain, it's Bartholonew. Bartholonew.

That's what we're trying to say. Is there any chance he's coming toolone. That's what we're trying to say. Is there any chance he's coming to Miami? Beckham's new team. Is Jack an owner of that team? I don't know. Kansas City. Pat Mahomes has a stake in the Kansas City team, right? He does.

KC's very similar to Bartholone. Leo, with that dog that he has that he juggles over in his backyard, the barbecue that dog could eat in Kansas City. Think about that. Come on, Leo. Come on over. Forget Bartholona.

Forget Bartholona. Forget all the Euros. Forget them all. Come on over to the MLS, the best league in town. Come on over, Leo. How much would the MLS have to pay him per year? So Beckham was getting what, like a million dollars a day there for like four years or something like that?

It was every second he was making a certain amount of money. I remember when his first deal was signed out of Manchester United over to the LA Galaxy or whatever. And the entire MLS, I think they leveraged all of their cash, like what you were going to say about La Liga for Messi. They all chipped in for that because he was going to, you know, he was the biggest star on earth at the time, not just in soccer, but in life, I think, as well. And he came over and I'll tell you what, I did watch some Galaxy games. Hey, when he was taking a free kick, I was like, hey, let me watch this guy bend it like himself.

How did he play, honestly? Did he dominate? Yes. Early, he did very, very well. He was scoring from midfield. Everything that he was getting brought over for, he was a big leg. He was a great free kick taker,

incredibly attractive. He played an electrifying style of soccer. And when he was on the ball, normally it was a goal-scoring opportunity. So he was like the guy. And people did watch. It was big for the MLS. Ibrahimovic, I would say,

had a similar effect. And now our league will never, ever, ever be, the MLS will never,ovic, I would say, is at a similar effect. And now our league will never, ever, ever be, the MLS will never, ever, ever be able to sniff the NFL. No! Okay? And I don't think that should be held against the MLS at all, by the way, because I want to... No other sport,

no other sport in America can. Well, and just wait until Roger Goodell does his little, hey, you guys are going to learn about football at a young age here, and you're going to become fans of our sport instead of your sport. Yep. That's going to start happening, I think, as the years continue to go. I'm not saying soccer will ever lose its world love, but I think American football is going to continue to grow.

And I think that, like, the NFL sees that after signing a $110 billion deal already. They see, oh, there's an entire hemisphere we haven't even really tapped into yet. I assume that'll continue to go. So maybe the NFL will be in a situation over there, and they are currently in that over there with their champions, Premier League, and everything like that in our viewership. But the MLS will always be there over here.

But we get a couple stars over here? I mean, Thierry Henry came over and scored a bunch of goals. How come Ruven Nisselrooy never came over to the MLS? Yeah, yeah. What the hell? What's that all yeah. It's kind of rude. What's that all about? It's kind of before his time, though. Yeah.

You know what I mean? He was, MLS was still kind of like before. Watch out. Before Beckham, pre-Beckham, MLS days. Yeah, Ruud van Nistelrooy could have been to Beckham, by the way. All he does is just hang out and score goals all the time. So you're saying he was afraid of, Rude was afraid of Lexi Lawless. Yeah, well, Lexi Lawless did play a very physical style of soccer, man.

He was not scared to throw his weight around back there. You know what I mean? Didn't back in the day, they have the greatest like penalty kicks? It was like from like half field. Yeah, he had a breakaway. Yeah. My favorite thing,

I think first ever game for the MLS was on primetime television. They came out for the coin toss. I think Tony Miola said, you want to flip for it? And did a backflip. Tony! Tony fucking Miola.

I think so. That's awesome. If I do recall. How are we not the Premier League in the world if that shit's going on? I mean, I will say I scored on Tony Miola as like a seven or eight year old. So that might have been.

Okay. That makes more sense. At the Conn's hot dog soccer camp. I got a free t-shirt too. Great photo. Four scoring on him. Good photo. We have seen the photo.

Yeah. I think everybody got a t-shirt. Okay. I think I still have a pair of shorts that was signed by a bunch of people at that thing. Jay, you were at this thing too? I think so

or maybe you were and I just have it for some reason. I have a pair of shorts that have a bunch of autographs on them. No, maybe yeah, maybe we're in two different groups. Is it framed on your wall? No, it is not. It's in a box in my garage. Jay!

If we have Tony Miola signed Umbro shorts, dude, we need those things stat, okay? I'll see if I can find them. Could you imagine a new studio with Tony Miola Umbro shorts? MLS Hall of Fame is going to be calling for those things, too.

Yeah, true. Absolutely. Some white Umbros? No, I think they're black. Yellow. Like gold yellow. Oh. That's sweet.

Autographs from them, why? No, I don't remember the shorts at all. But I do remember Umbro shorts with the white Umbro just like the most basic thing.

They had the little split on the side. Of course. The Copa Mundial shoes. I mean, those were the soccer days back in the day before the MLS was the premier league in the world. That's right. If we get Leo Messi, how come somebody can't make a run?

Can we not just sell a couple teams and just get to go get Leo Messi over here? I think he'll do two years at PSG and then probably, when he was going to sign with Man City, because they're connected to... There's zero chance of anybody in the MLS signing Leo Messi. Right now, but when he was going to sign with Man City, there was a deal connected with New York City FC. He'd do two years at Man City and then go to New York City

two years after that, because they're together. So the subject of him coming to the MLS has already been broached before we just automatically assumed it was going to happen? Yeah. I think in two years, him and Cristiano come together. Same team? Go to Miami. Give them a team. Let them just start their own team. They have enough money by far. Yeah, but

yeah, then just get a loan out or whatever. It may be Jackie Moon. He's made a billion dollars on the field. Get the funk out of my face. Get the funk out of my face. Get the funk out of my face. Get the funk out of my face. If you don't like my music, you don't have to use it.

Funkin' is a fun family. What if that's Leo Messi next year? Jackie Moon in the MLS. Why wouldn't he? Who says no? Who says no? Not us. Who says no?

Hey, do stars have to flop? Like, does Messi have to flop? Okay. See, now you're taking a shot at all of soccer. No, no, no. I equate it to, like, football when the defense has been on the field for 12 plays and a D-line and someone's like, hey, man, go down. The coach wants you to go down.

And, you know, oh, hamstring cramp or something. And everyone gets a rest. That's what I assume it is. I think Matt Hasselbeck called it something when we were doing Thursday Night Football. Crab? I forget what the name of it was. It was the first time I had heard it. In the football world, do you guys just have a standard name for, hey, you need to fake

like you're getting a cramp right now? Each team, each D coordinator usually has a term that they'll usually designate somebody to go down. I've seen it practiced before by the way, I think. You've seen it in practice? No, not in practice. I've seen somebody practice

what they were going to do if it had to happen in the locker room. Yeah, in the locker room. And I think that is how it was decided on who would do it actually. This guy fucking get him an Academy Award. He makes it really smooth. He doesn't even look like it's fake almost. It's unbelievable.

I mean, people are going to be suspicious when it happens, but I think he's our best seller. I think that guy's our absolute best seller. And then they're like, I got it, I got it. And the full, ah! There's been a couple. I mean, there is. You just can't get up and sprint up to the sideline once you finally get out yeah there's that happens in soccer i feel like a lot

right that's like kind of your sports thing yeah it does happen from time to time does messy do that or no no messy usually gets hacked pretty bad because he's fucking deacon around everybody is he quiet yeah yeah talk shit? Doesn't feel like it. But, like, he just won that Copa. Like, that was the last thing he needed to do. So maybe he's like, fuck it. I'm done here. I'm done, MLS.

Hell yeah. Go anywhere. Here we go. How old is he? 34. 34, yeah. He's been there since he was 13. That's young.

That seems very young. I'm 34 years old. I'll tell you what. I was playing a lot of soccer growing up. Imagine if I accidentally just fucking ran into the mess. Under 16 tournament or something like that. Oh, that guy's much better than all of us here. This is a good time.

That happened to, Freddie Adu showed up at one tournament my age. Yeah, he punk you? Yeah, well, also. Oh, yeah. I mean, he, I mean, we had a guy named Mitch Minard from Upper St. Clair. He was a big kid.

It was – you know, because at those ages when you're growing, everybody's different sizes. You know, everybody's coming through different things. And there's potential growth spurts that people – we had a kid named Mitch, I think his name was. He was a big kid, big kid for our age. But when Freddie Adu came to town and we had to play against him, we put Mitch on Freddie Adu.

And it was like a, that was an adult fight between those two. I mean, they were battling it out. But he was talking shit while shooting against us. And it was like, God damn, this guy is much better than everybody here. People were saying that he wasn't necessarily our age. I don't know the whole thing. But, yeah, that messy and accidentally running. He's always necessarily our age. I don't know the whole thing. But, yeah, that Messi and accidentally running it, he's always been the best. 13 years old, he started with Barcelona?

Yeah, he's been unbelievable forever. When did he go to the adult team? Was he like one of those teenagers? He was like 16 or 17, yeah. 16 years old dude playing pro. Does he even go to school over there or do they just do the soccer? So in soccer, they do academy. So you play for the team as an academy and you do your schooling at barthelona as well yeah i'd heard about that we

got a chance to see the uh manchester united youth team was in a tournament we played in and talked to a couple of them over there and they talk about their schedule like you wake up we do conditioning we do soccer then we do class then we do lunch then we do soccer i think it's kind of how it's why they dominate that's why golfers dominate that grow up in that system, too, in other countries. Yeah, little John, though. I think this, John Daly's kid, and I don't know, I think everybody knows this. There are schools that are just like specialized. I think it's IMG.

IMG does it. IMG Academy down in Florida kind of has that going on with all the sports where you just go in there and it's all ball or all whatever all day and then class like, hey, let's get you a GED, basically, but we're here to make money in the sports where you just go in there and it's all ball or all whatever all day and then class like hey let's get you a ged basically but we're here to make money in the sports world i didn't get paid to do the class boom getting paid to do the football fascinating also in europe i learned this from cesaro because i told cesaro that i didn't need to know anything about the olympics i know everything you know where is he from switzerland and he also i think he does all of the exercises that are in the olympics and he also I think he does all of the exercises

that are in the Olympics and he watches the show I think every once in a while or sees some clips of us talking about the Olympics and he goes he actually told me that we have to talk about the Olympics he basically pulled me aside hey we have to it felt like Cesaro was like you sound like an idiot when you're speaking about the Olympics

as he was delivering that to me and by the way me andaro, I think have a pretty good relationship. I'm a big fan of Cesaro. He is a very nice dude. He is very cool. So as he said that to me, I kind of sensed the tone, even though different part of the world, English is not his first language. I sensed the tone. He was talking shit, so I let him know,

I don't fucking need to know anything from you. So I sort out a little bit of a thing. We got into that whole thing. The way, and he was explaining to me all the thing and i was very thankful for all the information and he did so you know sports are not at your school so you go to school and then you go join clubs so if when you're in school you do like uh shot putting in class and if you like it they tell you where the local club is and then they do these other workouts and these other things and he's not speed walking or whatever

the hell it is and it's not associated with that so you have to go to a club he said these clubs have like elementary school age people in for some things or junior high or high school and all the way up to like 40 year olds that are still playing whatever sport it is like there's a there's club like soccer teams for like seniors i think it's called at some age they have they have a stadium they have lights they play at night and it's just like something they go to practice one thing and they've potentially been in that club their entire life and it's just like it's much better job like if you're 40 doing that is that your profession no it's like a hobby of theirs like they just kind of like they just like there's always a men's league and your club will still play against the clubs that you played against

whenever you were a kid and it's like cool yeah it is i agree i was like because i'm trying to buy uh trying to find pickup games of shit it's impossible to do a kid, and it's like – It's cool. Yeah, it is. I agree. I was like, because I'm trying to find pickup games of shit. It's impossible to do. You join these clubs, it's like, yeah, we've got stadiums, we've got refs, we've got leagues, we've got everything. I'm like, you've got to pay, obviously, but that's like a very cool thing for sport, I think, going forward. That's what Bjorn was talking about in Germany.

When he was playing football in Germany, he would go to school, and then the only way to play football is you'd have to join a club with all the kids from your county or whatever. Awesome, by the way. I wish we picked up some clubs. It would be nice to go play some soccer. Yeah, I'd love to. Imagine if we had a game like 7.30 tonight.

Oh, my God. Juice up for it, too. I asked Cesar, I was like, can I just move into your town and join your club? He was like, yeah. I was like, I might do that for a town and join your club? He was like, yeah. I was like, I might do that for a year. I don't know how old I'm going to be and I can stay in shape, but man, it would be cool to join a club and be in

the, I want to be on the ping pong team. I don't know if they got that. I'd like to be on the soccer team as well. I think they have a full lobby. It's like an entire thing. Pick up like pickleball or something like that, you know. Let's do a full year of just competing against an entire Switzerland country Start an Oculus League I'm sure

In one of those clubs I'm definitely doing shot put by the way I'm pretty explosive Do they have shot put clubs? They do now Because me and Krauser are moving in Hey he's unbelievable AJ Have you ever done the shot put? I know I never did I ran track in first grade

And I just did the running events. And I would like to let Kovacs know, like, hey, probably unbelievable as well. This is just like Muhammad, who's right behind Sidney McLaughlin. They both would have beat the world record, but only one will get remembered for it because it happened in the same race. They just so happen to be from the same state. Hey, Ty. I told you.

Still got it. I told you. I saw that one. That was great. I mean, I need more of that. Less of the, oh, I can't find the got it. Yeah, I told you. I saw that one. That was great. I mean, I need more of that. Less of the, oh, I can't find the goddamn events. All right, listen. All right, that's NBC, not the athletes.

Let's remember that. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes. The fact that you allow us to do so every Monday through Friday, I'm eternally grateful for. The boys' effort has been nothing short of spectacular. Our guest conversations have been absolutely beautiful, and I'm feeling real good about life right now. The NFL is on tonight.

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