The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 473 - Mac Jones Makes His Debut, Field Of Dreams Game Recap, Hall of Famer Alan Faneca, Ian Rapoport, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 13, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about the two preseason games last night including the Football Team vs. Patriots and Mac Jones' debut, how he doesn't look like a guy thats going to stink, if h...e's going to start over Cam Newton early on, and why the Washington Football Team may be the hot ticket in the NFC East, Chase Young's development, Fitzmagic looking at ease, and everything of note from the Eagles vs. Steelers game as well. Joining the show is Super Bowl Champion, 9x Pro Bowler, 8x All Pro, and newly enshrined Hall of Fame member, Alan Faneca, to chat about his Hall of Fame weekend, if it exceeded his expectations, how the party was, what he's doing to help people with epilepsy, and how strict the speech restrictions were (24:45-41:07). Later, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport joins the show to hop around training camp and let us know what we need to know about the NFL at this moment (47:00-1:17:14). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up, everybody? It is Friday, August 13th, and you are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0. Pat had to hop on a plane to head down to Tulsa to call Friday Night Smackdown at 8 o'clock on Fox. It's a good show today. New Hall of Famer Alan Fanica joins the show to talk about Hall of Fame weekend. And we got a new segment with Rap Sheet. Ian Rappaport stops by to wrap up everything going on around the NFL, plus AJ Hawk stops by to help send you into a weekend. It's a good one. Let's get to it.
Starting point is 00:00:35 This morning, you know, last week we got a little bit of a taste of it. You know, we had a little bit of a sampler platter. We had a little bit of this. We had a little bit of that. We had a lot of spectacle. The game kind of stunk. But on Friday morning, we got to wake up, and there was highlights from this year's NFL season happening. Now, it is preseason football, but it was still highlights of football being played
Starting point is 00:00:55 around the same time that we had never seen before. And this morning, by the way, we woke up to two games last night's highlights. And I'll tell you what, it is a beautiful time to be alive. If you're a New England Patriots fan, let's just dive right into this. Okay? At Boston, Connor's here. Ty Schmidt is here.
Starting point is 00:01:12 The Hammered Down Boys will be joining us all three hours. Not sure when AJ will join us or if his internet will allow us, but we will talk to him at some point today alongside Alan Fanica. He'll be joining us in about ten minutes, and Ian Rappaport will join us for a brand new segment here. today alongside Alan Fanica. He'll be joining us in about 10 minutes. And Ian Rappaport will join us for a brand new segment here on this Feel Good Friday with Rap Sheet, who almost got beat up by the Titans head coach just one week ago. If you're a New England Patriots fan,
Starting point is 00:01:37 I think you've got to be fucking pumped about what you saw last night. In preseason football, you're not going to be able to see a lot. You're not going to be able to learn a lot. But I think there are a couple things that you can keep your eyes open for and you can say, oh shit, looks like old buddy right there is potentially going to be something. In this particular case, I'm talking about Mac Jones, Mac Jones, Mac Jones. This guy, and I put out one simple tweet, all right, after watching the. And I watched the entire game because on NFL Network here in Indiana, that was the game that was on.
Starting point is 00:02:07 The Steelers and Eagles was not on. I guess there was a bunch of streams and everything. People were ripping it around here. They got a chance to watch it. They ran it back after the Patriots game. It was late night, though. So I got to watch the first drive of Jalen, which we will talk about. But watching Cam Newton, which, by the way, okay, got sacked.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Chase Young still a monster. A couple good plays. I don't know how long Cam Newton's going to have as the New England Patriots starter if he doesn't have immediate success, which he might, by the way. He might have immediate success this season. Following last year's season, which was a disappointment for him, did not have a lot of people around him. Got the vid.
Starting point is 00:02:45 It wasn't a great roster, but he did not perform well either. He said it can't go out like that was basically what he talked about. He came back for the Patriots. Hopefully he'll have a great start, play well, win an MVP. But if he doesn't, I'll tell you what, there's an entire region, I think, ready for this bad body having son of a bitch out of University of Alabama to be the quarterback. When Mac Jones jogged on the field in a preseason game at home,
Starting point is 00:03:10 had to use his hands to cover his helmet because the pop from Foxborough was so loud. I thought Boston Connor was potentially out of touch with the rest of New England with his thoughts and feelings on Mac Jones. I thought that maybe Boston Connor was watching all these videos coming out of training camp of Mac Jones and he was the only one baloney bopping to Mac Jones. I thought that maybe Boston Connor was watching all these videos coming out of training camp of Mac Jones
Starting point is 00:03:26 and he was the only one baloney bopping to Mac Jones out of all the Patriots fans. I thought Patriots fans were a little bit more patient, a little bit more jaded. Like, let's see if this guy's a guy or not. I don't think any of them expected to draft Mac Jones, but then I guess once they got him and started learning
Starting point is 00:03:42 about everything they were saying about him and watching the videos of him and hearing the teammates speak about him, Foxborough is excited for another potential, Bland White, that is very good at quarterback. When he came on the field, the place went bananas. If you weren't watching the game live, I don't think you would really truly understand. It was a fascinating thing to see in the middle of a preseason game, especially when a very likable, lovable guy has been named the starter who was just on the field moments before that matt comes into a hero's welcome now the internet was saying there's a
Starting point is 00:04:17 multitude of reasons for why really that particular region was potentially cheering for Mac Jones. Like what? I'm just telling you that last night was disgusting on Twitter. Yeah, it was. It started with that whole thing and I don't know, maybe there are a couple. A few. I don't know the region. I've only been there once. It was Gloom and Doom. Looked like a fucking scary movie
Starting point is 00:04:40 when I was there. I did have a good time. Everybody was clean shaven. Kind of weird to me. Looked like a Gillette commercial every time we walked through. But a lot of people are saying the reason why you guys were excited for Mac is because he was a white quarterback. I'm just telling you what. Some people on the internet, the toxic people are saying on the internet.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I do not believe that is the case. I believe that you guys are excited for the future with Mac Jones potentially being a great. And I think after the pop and after the excitement, watching him play made me believe that although 31 different fan bases wanted this dude to stink bad I mean they wanted Mac Jones who had that walk on draft night you know Matt Patricia signed off on him yeah Matt Patricia didn't really do much great things up there for Detroit so if Matt Patricia likes him
Starting point is 00:05:24 and he has that awkward walk and everything like that, everybody's like, oh, the Patriots stink. They're going to stink forever. You spend $150 million, you don't have a quarterback. That's actually what a lot of people were saying. You don't have a quarterback. You don't have a quarterback. You draft Matt Jones.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Then you start learning about Matt Jones. You watch Matt Jones. Photographic memory, they say. Smartest guy, quick guy. Throws the ball onto a pin if he has to. Missed a couple throws last night, to be exact. One throw. He missed one throw.
Starting point is 00:05:50 The one in the end zone would have got broken up anyways. Didn't matter where he threw it. That was perfect defense. The ball that he overthrew on Gunner, though, that thing's probably a tutter. That's a half a yard out of reach there. So that was a miss by him. But I think, you know, first preseason game, potentially a little bit amped up. But if you watched him and you were one of the other 31 teams
Starting point is 00:06:08 that said you know what the Patriots are fucking dead I hate mass holes we don't have to hear from them again this guy's going to stink you watched last night it was impossible this guy's not going to stink all I said is I don't want to overreact we're not big overreactors not at all
Starting point is 00:06:22 can't do it can't win with it I don't want to overreact, right? We're not big overreactors. No, not at all. Never. No. Can't do it. Won't do it. That would be irresponsible. Can't win with it. Won't. Won't. I don't want to overreact, but I think 31 different teams' fans were hoping Mac Jones would stink. I hate to say this, but it sure seems like he will not.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And a lot of people started attacking me on the internet for saying this. I got attacked for saying this. I mean, they were showing up in abundance. Oh, TJ, TJ says here, by your logic, Joe Flacco is a potential MVP candidate because Joe Flacco threw a screen for 79 yards for a touchdown last night for the Philadelphia Eagles. By the way, Joe Flacco was once an MVP candidate back in the day when he got paid $100 million after winning the goddamn Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I don't see how those two tie together when I say Mac Jones. Doesn't seem like he's going to stint. Oh, by your logic, says Teague. Teague was not the only one, by the way. Mark Smith, oh, don't fall for the preseason hype, man. Then he screenshots two of Freezing Cold Takes' posts about Ryan Mallett being the guy back in 2011 when he debuted in preseason saying,
Starting point is 00:07:24 and it's pretty similar? Quarterback, Patriots, 10 years ago, everybody's loving him. Don't buy into the preseason hype, says Mark Smith. And I appreciate Mark for following along, but listen, Ryan Mallett, who I have drank beers with, golfed with, had a good time with, sang with, with. What? Enjoyed Arkansas with. What? Saw the biggest son of a bitch I've ever seen in my entire life in public with.
Starting point is 00:07:49 What? I mean, I love Ryan Mallett. Of course. I do. I enjoy Ryan Mallett as a human. I liked him everywhere he went. Especially when I heard what he was potentially doing off the field in college. I was like, all right, this dude's a guy.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I feel like I'd be friends with this guy. Thought he was potentially doing off the field in college. I was like, all right, this dude's a guy. I feel like I'd be friends with this guy. Thought he was incredibly talented, but I don't think it is fair to just say, because I said that Mac Jones wasn't going to stink to say, oh, this is Ryan Mallett. Ryan Mallett was unbelievably talented, okay? Everybody knows that. Love Ryan Mallett.
Starting point is 00:08:19 This is not a shot at Ryan Mallett. Mac Jones is like the most accurate passer in the history of college football, national champion, Heisman finalist. Had one of the greatest year or one of the top two greatest years in the history of college football. And it's not the arm
Starting point is 00:08:34 mechanics that we were watching and judging last night. A lot of people were telling me oh you're watching against twos and threes. It's like what I was watching was a guy that was looking at the defense okay. Breaking down simple defenses okay. First preseason threes it's like what i was watching was a guy that was looking at the defense okay breaking down simple defenses okay first preseason game but i'm just talking about as a rookie the composure that he had breaking down things i guess he had the uh the highest uh pro football focus
Starting point is 00:08:55 football great which at this point we don't know what's going on over there pro football we love pro football focus okay they they named me punter of the decade and they watch every single film and i think for punters it's a lot easier to see if it was a successful rep or a non-successful rep but there's a lot of other question marks at positions i think people have called pff into question but they're pro football focus they watch every play they grade every single one they're dialing in they got former scouts collinsworth's running the thing and he said some questionable shit though i. Some questionable shit coming out from that account. But Mac Jones had the highest pro football focus quarterback rate. Also, I think the longest attempt per pass.
Starting point is 00:09:32 So a lot of people were tweeting me telling me, oh, dinks and dunks. Throw me a check down with two guys five yards away and you're Mac Jones. It's like, actually, I think he had the highest average attempt last night. He won 13 of 19, I think. Had the highest average attempt last night. He won 13 of 19, I think. Had that one drop, one miss. That's 15 of 19 for over 100 and some yards. He said, oh, he couldn't even score a touchdown, only kicked field goals. Quinn Norton.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Hell of a night, by the way. Here we go. Quinn Norton. Live leg. Big boot. Live leg. It has always been that way, too, ever since he was in high school. So much so that Harbaugh went and slept at his house, climbed a tree with him,
Starting point is 00:10:10 just like a whole thing to recruit a kicker. And it was a big deal because people were like, look what Harbaugh's doing to get this kicker. It was like, well, this particular guy, Norton, was bombing balls for a long time. Super swagged out, too. I was a big fan of everything. When he got to Michigan, I think he kind of hit some different swings
Starting point is 00:10:27 and got into a couple different funks, much like every kicker does, potentially. Not every. Most kickers do at one point in their career in college, but everybody has said about Quinn Norton and Belichick, I assume once hearing that this guy was looking for jobs at LinkedIn or something like that because nobody would
Starting point is 00:10:43 sign him after coming from Michigan. He was once the top recruit in high school. Bill Belichick goes, hey, folks hurt, right? The guy always seems to be hurt, but he comes back in. That guy's been kicking 70-yard field goals since he was, what, 17 years old? Fuck it. Let's see if he can figure it out. Yeah, bring him in.
Starting point is 00:10:58 The guy was thinking about going and selling insurance. He might be at a different point. He was crushing the ball. Missed an extra point, which I don't know how the the operation was but he was absolutely slaughtering the ball it's great to see whenever so this would be like um you know when tiger woods is back and his driver is dialed in sure and then you know and he just gets up there and it's just going exactly where he wants when you have a kicker like tucker has been doing this for so long it's why it is absolutely stupid when he's been able to. When you have somebody that slaughters balls,
Starting point is 00:11:28 and they're just hitting it so pure, and you see the ball spinning slowly. Fast spin means they undercut it. Might have done it on purpose to cut through some wind, but you're not going to get as much distance. He hit that 50-yarder, and it was end-over-end, slow rotation, like the most beautiful. I mean, like, I would assume it's how Judge felt or how Alexander felt or whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:51 As soon as they hit that, it feels like it's gone. Like when you see that ball just spinning perfectly end over end, it's like, well, you fucking slaughtered that football. I think it went over the net from 50. I hope he continues to do that. Miss the extra point. How will he bounce back? That's the question. But a lot of people are burying Mac Jones for that, not scoring a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And whenever I said I didn't think he was going to stink, it's because everything else he was doing, the composure, the poise, the arm strength was there. He was breaking down the defense, simple defense. He ran a two-minute drill, hurry up drill, went eight of nine, I think, or something like that. It was very hot. If you're a Patriots fan, you see that.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Now, I don't think you have enough weapons still. Like John New and Hunter Henry, awesome. James White's been catching fucking screens for 50 years for the Patriots. He's still faster somehow. I think you need another guy. I'm not 100% sure. You might fall into the same thing that we got going on here at the Colts if T.Y. can't eat and Pittman doesn't.
Starting point is 00:12:38 But, man, you've got to be pumped about what you saw out of Mac. The Internet hates it, which is good news for Patriots fans. Yeah, I expected a lot of hate if he did well. So, you know, that is good news. But like you said, the biggest thing for Mac Jones was the pre-snap reads, him checking the offensive line, changing who the mic was. And that's what happened with Cam that he couldn't do that you've been hearing like throughout practice is that, you know, Cam will come up, he'll identify who the mic is, and then he'll snap the ball. Mac will come up, he'll identify who the mic is, he'll give a fake, you know, Cam will come up, he'll identify who the mic is, and then he'll snap the ball. Mac will come up, he'll identify who the mic is, he'll give a fake, you know, a fake, and then see what they're doing, and then he'll change the play.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And we will, you know, probably fall to the fact that we don't have enough weapons because the Chiefs are still the standard, and we're definitely not near the Chiefs yet. But with the defense and the special teams and just the promise that you see from Mac, you've got to hope he's there week one. Listen, I love you guys got Goose, too. Oh, yeah. Hank Anderson's an absolute weapon. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Playing in the third quarter. Yeah, the preseason. I don't know if that's good and how. I mean, Goose definitely was giving his maximum effort. Yeah. It appeared as if he was not telling Bill Belichick to go fuck himself in the third quarter whenever he was still playing or whatever. he's a vet at this point. He seems to be all the way dialed in.
Starting point is 00:13:49 We're calling his ass Baby J.J. when he was with the Indianapolis Colts his first couple years out of Stanford. Baby J.J. He was absolute hell raiser on the D-line. He and David Perry came out of Stanford at the same time to the Colts. Hank was un-fucking-believable. Incredibly cool guy. Nicknamed Goose. I mean, he is
Starting point is 00:14:10 an absolute stud athlete. Had an injury, kind of changed things. Went to the Jets. What happens when you go to the Jets? I mean, he kind of... Careers die. Who knows what happens. Absolutely tabletop Steve Houska. He did. Came on the show. Defended himself. Thank you, Goose. Thank you, Goose, for that. Got me into a war with Houska. Yeah. He did. He did. Came on the show. Yeah. Defended himself.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Thank you, Goose. Yeah, thank you, Goose, for that. Got me into a war with Houska's wife. Right. Actually, because I sided with Goose. Because, hey, if you're a kicker and you're running towards where a tackle's going to be, there's a chance you're going to get got over it. That's football.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Like, all right, just go down the fetal position. You see his quarterbacks do it. If you don't want to get hit, you just lay your ass down or go the opposite direction. position you see his quarterbacks do it if you don't want to get hit you just lay your ass down or go the opposite direction if you go towards the ball towards where everything's happening even if it's a block kick or whatever it is you're gonna get there's a chance you're gonna get killed in that's live fire kevin huber lost his entire job yeah because he was in an area a no man's land type area huber had to drink from a straw literally for six months. He's back with the Bengals. Said, I should have never been there.
Starting point is 00:15:09 That's what his thought was. He got got hurt in that particular he played the next week so he wasn't injured but he did get hurt. So I immediately sided with Houska. Then I saw it was Goose who did it and I go, I text him, I go, you
Starting point is 00:15:23 fucking asshole. And he goes uh can i plead my case please and i was like absolutely so he comes on he says what if house blocks me there or what if i that person what if something happens and i don't do now could i have hit him a little less hard yes right but then he said what what type of football player am I, though? That'd be rude to Hauschka if I was right. Like, basically this entire thing. Goose and I got along rather well whenever we were at the Indianapolis Colts. Very happy to see him with the New England Patriots.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And he will be a weapon for you. He'll be a guy just like Ninkovich who will somehow come out of nowhere, have an incredibly productive season. And everybody goes, of course, Bill was able to get the best out of this guy whenever all the signs had been there that he was going to be great. With that being said, though, how do we feel about the other team? About the football team? Yeah, how do we feel about Fitz Magic? Hey, I got them in my seven-leg parlay to win the NFC East.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I think so. Lock that in. Okay, with the videos that are coming out of Giants practice. Oh, Jesus. What? Disgusting. That reaction. It wasn't even football.
Starting point is 00:16:29 That was a little bit negative there about Giants. It's not the little fucking Giants. Sure. All right, listen. All right, the Giants, Daniel Jones in his third year did appear to throw the ball directly to a linebacker sitting at 13 yards down the field with no wide receiver around him. And this came immediately after a MA-blown assignment, no block on a blitz.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And now I don't really – the offensive line maybe hasn't covered that, who passes off, who shifts. Now that's the first-team offensive line, so you would hope that they would have that figured out. That could potentially happen in training camp, though. That is what training camp is for. You're trained there. Daniel Jones looking and staring down – I mean, a teammate teammate of his so probably a friend of his but in this
Starting point is 00:17:08 particular drill playing for the other team in throwing the ball right to him now jglo59 and cbs sports really hype this thing up with the the captions and everything around there it's practice right you're supposed to get better but with what we're hearing out of Giants camp with the laps, the push-ups, the sprints, the fights, the retirements, then you got this happening, the blown assignments, the throw into the linebacker. I've seen Joe Judge punt a ball. I've seen him do an onside kick.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I thought the Giants were potentially going to be a team this year. I thought they were going to go on a go. What we're seeing as of now, which could change completely, I don't think they're going to be a team this year. I thought they were going to go on a go. What we're seeing as of now, which could change completely, I don't think they're going to be a team. Down in Dallas, not this year. Maybe next year. Who knows how that whole thing will work out. I don't think they're going to be a team. I might be wrong. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Dallas, I'm not 100% certain how. Who knows? What's going on here? What's going on here? I think I'm going to weekend to clear things up, but Dak is throwing. In my eyes, I think Dallas has a chance, obviously. The Eagles, after watching last night, I think Jalen is good. I think he's very good. He missed the ball,
Starting point is 00:18:14 but he also completed a couple absolute dimes. I think Jalen's going to be good. I don't know how that team is, though. Kobayashi, dude. They're going to stink. What do you mean? Why do you mean? Let me give you Why do you hate this Sirianni guy so much?
Starting point is 00:18:28 Is there something Is there something that happened? I don't hate Sirianni Oh Sounds like it The way you have painted Sirianni Has been in a way
Starting point is 00:18:36 Listen I'm not saying anything He hasn't said himself Okay I mean I don't know Jalen is good But I feel like he's just Is he Everybody's good in the NFL Well No I, I don't know. Jalen is good, but I feel like he's just easy. Everybody's good in the NFL, though.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Well, no, I mean, I don't know. You just look at last year. Like, I think we were talking about a big part of, like, some of these younger guys. Like you said, when they don't have tape on them, they come in, and he can obviously scramble, and teams, like, don't really know how to, like, I don't know. Do you think that year two, when teams have tape on him and they know what to expect from him, that makes a massive difference, doesn't it? Especially when your team around you stinks as well. I think it does.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Now, granted, this is the first year in Sirianni's offense, and it's the first year where he's going to be the guy, or is he, by the way? I don't know if they're keeping that in mind. Flacco is on fire. Look out. Yeah, Flacco did drop an absolute dime, okay? And Flacco is always going to play. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Footsteps. Footsteps Flacco. Footsteps Flacco is always going to show yeah like steps footsteps Flacco footsteps Flacco's always going to show up whenever he has to but watching that Washington football team there early Fitzmagic looks happy yeah and when Fitzmagic is happy I think every time he's been happy to place they have won that Fitzpatrick will wear his heart on his sleeve so whenever it gets ugly you know whenever he's riding a good one whenever they're winning winning winning and going he's doing it and right now it feels like he enjoys the team that they have he's riding a good one, whenever they're winning, winning, winning, and going, he's doing it. And right now it feels like he enjoys the team that they have.
Starting point is 00:19:47 He's incredibly smart. Everybody knows that. That team, though, with Heineke, almost beat the fucking Bucs. That team was very young. The culture was still young. They don't even have a name yet. They were battling what? Three exposes came out in the first training camp and they were still that team i think is a
Starting point is 00:20:06 problem in the nfc east i think that team is going to win the nfc they have by far the best defense and best defensive line in that division and it's not even close and then they added weapons on offense when i told his future fortunes months ago washington football team they're probably at a much better odds than they are now if i had to guess months ago it was plus four plus two i could look it up but yeah probably i assume so i like that i like watching football in the preseason because in the first half a couple plays yeah see yeah of course but i like watching because it's like everybody tweeted me automatically because they of how he performed physically it was like that was the last thing I'm looking at. That is the last thing I'm looking at because physically,
Starting point is 00:20:50 I just assume the person's there if everything else about them is right. If the confidence is there, if they seem to have poise, understand what they're doing, let's assume the arm talent is there for Mac. Let's just assume it's there. It was everything he was doing in his first ever appearance in the NFL that I was super pumped for. Not as somebody that wants to ever see the Patriots be successful again, which I don't. But I'm happy for Mac Jones to be able to get in there and sling it because that guy was supposed to be number three overall for a long time. That guy, he threw the ball to the Heisman winner yeah so the Heisman winner
Starting point is 00:21:26 wide receiver and this is kind of the conversation about does the quarterback deserve it every single time and it's like the Heisman award potentially could become a quarterback award basically but Devante I mean without you know exactly chicken or the egg yeah without Mac throwing the ball there and he was a Heisman finalist, I guess. So might as well just say, okay, Heisman-like quarterback basically in college. He was supposed to be number three overall. He falls to the Patriots, of course. And that's what I got out of it.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And Josh McDaniels is coaching that son of a bitch. Yeah. I think we have a phone call. No. Oh, he's running behind. He's in the bathroom right now. Oh, I don't have this in. You probably already told me.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Oh, yeah. McDaniels and him do have a great relationship, though, which is good to see. No, I don't think they do, by the way. Him and Mac? No, I think they have a good relationship, but I think this is very much like a Bear Bryant. I think he is, yeah. Coaching him up. That's been the big thing, right?
Starting point is 00:22:23 I think there's a little bit of fear out of Mack for Josh McDaniels still at this point. They've had a few dinners at McDaniels' house. They have a good relationship. But I think Mack likes to get kind of screamed at, yelled at, because I think Cam mentioned it after the game. He was like, I try and make him laugh, but he doesn't really laugh because he wants everything to be so perfect. And when it's not, he gets so mad.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Mack? Yeah, Mack Jones. him laugh but he doesn't really laugh because he wants everything to be so perfect and when it's not he gets so mad mac yeah mac jones and that's why he's kind of locked in dialed in like gable steveson 24 7 hey i don't know i've seen him chuckle in a lot of movies but the um and have a good time but i like that he's a potential perfectionist photographic memory uh incredible but i mean he is it makes no sense that he ended up at the Patriots. And, of course, if he has this great career 10 years from now, everybody will be like, I can already hear the deep voice on NFL film saying, Bill Belichick waited patiently instead of trading up in the draft for his guy to fall to him. Matt Patricia had to give the okay.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yes, let's not forget Matt Patricia played a massive role here. But with the football team, I think you're foolish not to bet on Chase Young to win defensive player of the year. Me and Gumby were talking about it when we were walking in, and that was basically the first thing Tony said to us too. Chase Young is unbelievable. Remember last year in the – was it playoffs or week 17? He literally – sack happened, ball came out.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Niners. And he ran, okay, without breaking stride. One hand picks up a ball and then somehow still remains just in a full sprint. It was – Unbelievable. Fucking unbelievable. And it's like, oh, this guy. Oh, that's a different human there.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Oh, that human isn't like the rest of us humans. Tomlin said it. Yeah, he said last – Chase Young after the game last night, last night he said yeah the game really feels like it's slowed down like yeah and tomlin and what you're referring to and it will by the way continue to do so wait until he starts getting a read of when he's going to get chipped and when this is going to happen in some games that they'll potentially play i mean it is he's a weapon uh but yeah tomlin mic'd up moment when he looked at chase i'm never going to lose enough games to get you when somebody looks like you.
Starting point is 00:24:26 What a line by Tomlin. You know what I'm saying? That's what Tomlin even followed up to Chase. You know what I mean? We ain't going to stink enough to be able to get a guy. What a line by Tomlin. Absolutely loved it. Staying with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Although I thought the Steelers were going to lose last night to the Eagles, and I bet pretty heavily on that, strictly because I didn't know how long Jalen was going to play. We have an absolute Steelers icon joining us. A man that just went into the Hall of Fame this past weekend, had an incredible speech. Also, wild body transformation. Gets asked about that a lot, I assume,
Starting point is 00:24:57 so I don't want to hammer away, but he looks fucking great, and he sounded presidential. Ladies and gentlemen, Hall of Fame offensive lineman from the Pittsburgh Steelers, Alan Fannick. What's up, man? What's going on, guys? Hey, how's that? I mean, how many times have you been interviewed thus far where you've been introduced as, hey, Hall of Famer, Alan Fannick? It has to feel pretty sweet at this point, huh? Hey, you can say it all day long. Alan Fanica, that has to feel pretty sweet at this point, huh?
Starting point is 00:25:24 You can say it all day long. So while we're talking to Hall of Famer Alan Fanica, your speech, though, let's talk about that, and then we'll dive into the football and life and everything. You sounded incredibly presidential. Your delivery was unbelievable. You projected your voice. I was impressed by your style of speaking, but then your actual speech, whenever you go back to, I think,
Starting point is 00:25:44 15 years old or 14 years old, and whenever you're trying to write a speech like that for the Hall of speaking, but then your actual speech, whenever you go back to, I think, 15 years old or 14 years old, and whenever you're trying to write a speech like that for the Hall of Fame, there has to be a lot of reflection going on, huh? And at what point did you fall on like, hey, this year, 15th year of my life was a pivotal moment in everything? Because I don't think that gets talked about. The process of putting those words together is probably a pretty emotional one. Am I wrong in reading that or no? Oh, definitely. I mean, you think about things you never thought about before. You never really think about how you got here. At least I never did. What got me to here? What kind of guy am I? I never really realized that I was a very goal-oriented person until I started going
Starting point is 00:26:24 through this process of trying to make my speech and trying to formulate it and put it all together. That I was setting goals my whole life. I never thought one thing about it. But definitely, there's like a whole notebook worth of notes that didn't make the speech that you start thinking about through this process. Did you miss anything? Do you feel like afterwards anybody said to you, how did you not say blah, blah, blah? Have you gotten any of that?
Starting point is 00:26:51 Or has everybody said the same thing as me? Like, hey, incredible speech. No, nobody's ever said that. I think everybody's finally realized that I only had eight minutes and that time was short. How about that? Peyton Manning literally roasted
Starting point is 00:27:04 some of the Hall of Famers of the past. Was that something that was really hammered home? Because I thought that was always a rule. And then this year, was it because you guys were like, you know what, we'll set the standard here from here on out. We can't abuse this thing. Or was that something from the Hall of Fame? Because in the past, guys would go 30,
Starting point is 00:27:20 40 minutes. It's a snooze fest by the end of it. But hey, appreciate everything you've done did they tell you or did you guys kind of make that decision by yourself no no it was definitely a mandate that we were going to be cut they told us how it was going to go down the lights the flashing lights
Starting point is 00:27:36 the elevator music was going to come on like at the Golden Globes or whatever and run us off the stage and they hammered that down all the way through and uh you know Peyton wound up making all the jokes about it and uh I was trying to lead a revolt to try and get us like an extra two or three minutes out of it and uh and he shot me down I was like man he was the one guy in the group I needed to uh to help uh drive it home
Starting point is 00:27:59 and he he failed me well I'm sorry you two couldn't get on the same page for that. But as a watcher, you know, like I feel like six minutes, eight minutes. There has to be like a ten minute. There has to be a happy medium there because I think we all agree as fans of football and a celebration of the sport, which is what Hall of Fame weekend is and the greatest league of all time. Some of those. Some of those, Alan, are. Come on. You know, and abuse leads to restrictions, which is why you guys had it happen.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Hopefully they'll be able to figure it out. I thought you nailed it in your time constraints. How was the weekend? A lot of Steelers are back there, huh? It felt like a family reunion, I assume? Pittsburgh West. That's what I kept saying all weekend long. Everybody just moved from Pittsburgh over for the weekend.
Starting point is 00:28:43 It was great. It was great. come along. Everybody just moved from Pittsburgh over for the weekend. It was great. It was great. I've said it a couple times to family and friends. If I could write and craft the most poignant
Starting point is 00:28:53 paragraph ever written about the week and what it meant to my family and myself, it wouldn't do it any justice. It was just simply amazing. The pinnacle of my career, sharing it with my friends and family, being able to thank everybody that came along the journey that came up to celebrate with us. It just simply, there's no words to define it. Congrats. Hey, did you hear about a lot of
Starting point is 00:29:17 things? You know, I got invited to my first Pro Bowl and it wasn't in Hawaii. It was in Arizona. We had to drive an hour and a half in the desert to practice. The hotel wasn't even just NFL folks. It was a bunch of conferences happening. And I remember thinking to myself, like, oh, I always dreamed of making a Pro Bowl. This fucking stinks. It's cool to get the title and it'll be on the resume. I'll wear the jersey. It's very nice. But it wasn't what like I had always thought it was going to be. I feel like every Hall of Famer and everybody that's ever gone to Hall of Fame weekend has come out the other side of it and been like, it exceeded all of my expectations. Is this Pittsburgh, West Canton, just like the greatest city on earth for a weekend
Starting point is 00:29:56 because of everybody that's there and everything that's happening? I mean, definitely. It's definitely just flat out amazing. You mentioned the Pro Bowl and I thought about it. So my very first Pro Bowl, I'm out in Hawaii and there's an initial meeting where they kind of give you the ground rules for the whole weekend. Right. And my very first one, I'm in there and I'm looking around and I'm like, you know, I got Jerry Rice, like two chairs over from me. And I'm like, shit, man, i'm in this room um and so we we have uh there's the ray nisby luncheon which is just hall of famers they close the doors nobody's in there
Starting point is 00:30:32 just us and i had the same moment times a thousand but i'm like shit i'm in this room man this is like i'm here i'm a part of this it was very surreal. A lot of shit getting talked in there about a lot of stuff in that Hall of Fame only. There is some things flying. You're talking about the league, the current league, the state of the Hall of Fame. What are those conversations? Business conversations
Starting point is 00:30:58 or is it just, hey, let's enjoy each other's company. We never get a chance to do this. It's a little bit of everything man it's it's about uh you know the guys we lost in the past it's about uh uh introducing the new guys um you know i was i got a little bit of advice going in there because sometimes the the meetings can get a little uh carried away a little bit i was told you know best advice is to kind of keep your head down and mouth shut i did a uh so i did a – so I did a round – what was it?
Starting point is 00:31:25 It was a circle round – what was it? Round table. Round table. I was invited to a round table thing because I was announcing the coach draft pick in Nashville, and Roger Goodell was in there, and then it was – I think there was a few Hall of Famers in there, a bunch of players, and they literally had everybody sitting in like a circle. It was very interesting, and there was no media or anything like that, and and I just sat I didn't get that advice from everybody but I quickly read the
Starting point is 00:31:49 room I was like all right I am not saying a thing in here they were just teeing off right all the old guys and it was a cool moment to kind of you kind of take a trip back in time with what the sport used to be you get to hear some stories some gripes what can get better I mean those moments I couldn't even fathom. You deserve every single one of those going forward for everything that you did in the sport of football and in the NFL in Pittsburgh. And I said I wasn't going to talk about it whenever I introduced you, but you've got a picture of yourself with a gut hanging over your belt right over your shoulder. And then we all see you just look incredible. I've asked you, I think, about this before, and a lot of people have,
Starting point is 00:32:26 and so I apologize maybe for the redundancy of this, though. Did you have to eat, like force yourself to eat to be an offensive lineman? Like is your body supposed to be small, and you were just like forcing yourself to eat, or is that you just full lifestyle change? Full change. I've never been this size in my life. I was that kid in elementary school that was like searching around with mom looking for the husky pants that would fit my butt. So as you get older, you start learning, oh, chicken over burgers and veggies over french fries and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So as I got older, the better I ate, the more I had to eat to keep the weight up, you know? So I was, you know, eating all the protein shakes between meals and stuff to maintain that weight. But I've always been the big boy and just said, when I'm done, I'm going to give it a go and see if I can lose some weight and see if it sticks. Alan, we were talking, you've done great. It sticks, by the way. It sticks. I battle. I battle with my weight a lot. I began intermittent fasting, and it seems like I'm going to be able to do this one. Because, you know, you can be a fat ass for a couple hours a day, and then you're done.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Cut it off. Yeah, it's been pretty nice. Did you get a chance to talk to any of the guys about the evolution of football and the athletes and everything? Before we had you on, we were talking about Chase Young. But not just Chase Young. You look across the board on defensive lines at this point with the way science and nutrition and workouts and everything you guys had to go through so people could perfect the science of technique and everything like that at this point. The game, it feels like, is at the best place of all time maybe.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Is that the conversation? Like, hey, how much better can these guys get? Do you look at that? Do you think about that at all? Or is that just something that is going to naturally happen, you think? Like you said, it's the evolution of science, of athletes. Years of training and all of a sudden the cream of the crop rises and the cream is a little bit higher than it used to be. My rookie year, I come into the
Starting point is 00:34:33 Pittsburgh Steelers organization, I'm 322 pounds. I'm the biggest offensive lineman, heaviest offensive lineman on the team. My last year in Arizona, I was 320. I was the smallest guy. It's crazy, isn't it? I mean, you've got 340 pounders flying around running like four nines, four eights at this point. It is insane. The game changes, the rules. You a fan of that? Not a fan of that? Because down there in the trenches, I I mean now there's no cutting in between the tight end box I believe not just the tackle box but the rules with hands to the face and you guys getting slapped by defensive linemen how do you feel about all that as now you're a hall of famer so you're literally one of the faces of the league going forward forever and I don't know if that's a pressure that you're excited about or not but
Starting point is 00:35:21 how do you feel about the the game the rules changes in the state of of the way the the game's being played in the NFL now yeah you know I think some some are needed I think you know when you start thinking about the safety of the game and then I think some are you know maybe taking it a little bit far I think I think that's just a a fine line that's really hard for the NFL to figure out where to stop. And maybe there's not enough guys like myself and former players around that circle that are making those decisions, having enough input in the game to help manipulate where those things are going. Have you said that to commish?
Starting point is 00:35:57 Like, hey, you guys are making a lot of decisions that are stupid. Need a couple of players around? I know. No, maybe I need to. Oh, now you're a Hall of Famer. You can say whatever now, Alan. I think with. Oh, now you're a Hall of Famer. There you go. You can say whatever now, Alan. I think with that gold jacket, you just show up at any stadium, any practice facility, any meeting, and you're just like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:36:13 What are we doing? I think you're allowed to do that now. I think it's like a gold pass, right? Sure. Sure it is. Yeah, let's do it. How was the party? The party was magnificent.
Starting point is 00:36:24 It was awesome. Did you have music? Yeah, yeah. We had a DJ. We went with the DJ. It was a little hard to go picking a band, but the party ended about 5.30 in the morning. I did not know you olds are doing it like that. 5.30 a.m. over there.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Is that the standard for those Hall of Fame parties too? For a lot of them, yeah. For a lot of them, yeah. For a lot of them. God, yeah! I'm happy that our legends, our Hall of Famers, by the way, are partying until 5.30 in the morning when they're going. That's good for the sport. That's good for the game.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Go ahead, Tone Diggs. Mr. Fanica, from Steelers Nation, I just want to thank you for everything you did, especially when you pulled in that key block for Willie Parker in the Super Bowl. Thank you very much. With that being said, we ask a lot of offensive linemen what type of quarterback they like to block for. What type of running back?
Starting point is 00:37:13 You had Jerome who would just run up your ass. You had famous, famous airway. He bounced around a little bit more. As an offensive lineman, what type of running back do you like to block for the most? I think I love blocking for Jerome, man. You know, one thing, I knew where he was going. I kind of had a good vibe of which hole he was going to hit. But, you know, when you're running back and hit somebody with so much force
Starting point is 00:37:33 and just take the pile and just, you know, just obliterate somebody, that's exciting, man. You know, when he would just run the pile down and pop up and start dancing around and doing his little shimmies and shakes. That was awesome. He was just like another lineman in the back getting the ball, though. So I see the LSU helmet as well. Are we ever going to get back?
Starting point is 00:37:54 It feels like we were just right there on the top of the mountain, and then all of a sudden everything started crumbling down around there. Is everything going to be all right down there at LSU? Everything's going to be fine. down there at LSU? No, everything's going to be fine. You know, I think a little transition period afterwards. You know, I think when you have that great of a year that we had, you know, it's hard to repeat that awesomeness all the time. So, a little bit down, but I think they're coming back.
Starting point is 00:38:19 I hope so, man. Coach O, what a legend. Joey Burrow, by the way, is back. Oh, yeah. A lot of people were wondering earlier in training camp if Joey Burrow was going to be able to get over that knee injury he's all the way back that's what everybody's saying they still don't have an indoor practice facility over there in Cincinnati though that's hard to
Starting point is 00:38:34 believe but I do believe it very profound that was very profound and deep want to talk about the steps towards zero campaign before we get out of here. You mentioned it in your speech about epilepsy being a massive part of your life. Can you tell us a little bit about the Steps Towards Zero campaign? And thank you for doing this, by the way.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Giving back to the world is an incredible thing. Thank you. You know, the Steps Towards Zero campaign is trying to reinvigorate and reengage the epilepsy community to get them engaged with their health care providers to try and find a new norm, not to accept where they are as just their station in life. And things can get better. So if you go to StepsTowardsZero.com, you'll find a lot of information, a lot of guidance on how to reengage your health care providers to find new ways not to accept where you are. And not everybody's going to be able to get to zero seizures, but maybe going from 10 to 7 or 5 to 2, you know, whatever it is, that's better than where you are now. And that's something I can get behind. And I've just been really excited about being a part of this. Yeah, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:41 And by the way, you becoming a face for that community is huge because I think a lot of us who maybe don't have a direct relative or friend that is epileptic, I don't think we fully understand it. I know like lights. I think like I feel like I have a very ignorant view on the entire thing. What is it? It's just a brain. Is it a brain thing that caused your body to go to seizures? I don't think I know a lot about epilepsy and I might be in the minority here but i'm i don't think i know that much about it at all actually so it's a little bit like uh lightning going off in your brain it's going to cause uh causes you to have your seizures and there's different triggers for for different people um you know for me i'm fortunate enough if it's a it's a medication thing so if i forget forget my medication is when I will have one. And, you know, for me, I don't hit the floor and convulse, but I would like take off running. I'm late for something. Like I've gone to my high school in my pajamas one time.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I lived about a mile from the school, and I just went to high school in my pajamas. So it's different for everybody, but it's basically like lightning going off in your brain and it's triggering your seizure. Well, let's hope that we can make worlds and lives much better without running to your high school in pajamas or whatever else could potentially happen to everybody. Thanks for giving back to the world. Congrats on being a Hall of Famer and thanks for your time, Mr. Fanica. Appreciate it, guys. Always enjoy being on the show.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Ladies and gentlemen, Hall of Fam Mr. Fanica. Appreciate it, guys. Always enjoy being on the show. Ladies and gentlemen, Hall of Famer, Alan Fanica. Yay! Now that the world's opening back up, so many new thrills are on the horizon. Okay. And whether you've been in a relationship for years or just getting started, we're excited to get back out there and meet new people. Hell yeah. When the moment comes.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Let's not come too quick. Oh, here we go. I get it. That is not what they had in their copy. Okay. They should. That was, I think they're going in a different direction. So let's go back a sentence or two.
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Starting point is 00:43:11 There are three games happening. The Bills at the Lions happening at 7 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time. Titans at Falcons at 7 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time. Cowboys at Cardinals at 10 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time. Cowboys at Cardinals at 10 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time. Those first two are going to be tough to watch. You'll be able to see the first half where all the stars are playing. Then Friday night Smackdown comes on at 8 p.m. Eastern. Live from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Oklahoma. You ever seen some came in crocodile boots, pal? Wow. Let me go ahead and unzip that thing so you can get a little bit more breathe. Don't mind the Steve Jobs photo on Stanford's campus or hefty lefty Jared Lorenzen. Rest in peace, pal. Look at these Cayman Crocs. Now, people are going to wonder, are those good boots or not?
Starting point is 00:44:01 They fucking are. Cowboy Willie Wilson told me that. Everybody asks about these boots. They go, they don't know a damn thing about boots. Going to Tulsa, Oklahoma tonight for SmackDown, and then we'll wrap up the evening with Cowboys Cardinals. This is a beautiful time to be alive. There's NFL action.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Last night also, baseball happened. It was like a playoff game. It was like a World Series game. People cared about baseball again because they were playing in the middle of a goddamn cornfield. It was a beautiful thing with a beautiful ending. Congrats to Iowa for putting on a hell of a show. Good job, Iowa. More fireworks.
Starting point is 00:44:34 More fireworks. See, I didn't stick around and watch the fireworks. They were pretty good. I saw a couple of the clips on the— Walk-off homer. Boom. As soon as that thing hits— You've got to let them fly.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I think Zambelli, you hits you gotta let them fly i think zambelli you you gotta let those fly and i know out in the middle of iowa there's probably a lot of you know pyros and there's probably fireworks people and all that they should have imported some italians from uh from pittsburgh and bellies to go do that thing and just let that thing what were you saying you said something about italians no i didn't say i thought you i thought you made a groan about italians sounded like you did did you make a groan about Italians. Sounded like you did. Did you make a groan about Italians, Gump? Not me, pal. I'd never say anything bad about the Italians. See, now this is an interesting thing because Deep Fake Gump is now in a little bit of a pickle.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah. Does Deep Fake Gump hate the Italians? Does Deep Fake Gump have some Italian in him, too? No, does Deep Fake Gump, is he Italian or is he? We love the Italians in Canada. Oh, because it sounded like you made a, oh, sound whenever I tried the Italians. We put maple syrup on their pasta. It's delicious.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Oh, don't do that. I have a question. When you see Juju do what he did on the field last night before the game, up to that same old shit, and then Mitt do the same thing, twerking in your face this morning, doing the same thing, does that make you excited about NFL football, Pittsburgh Steelers football, or does that worry you about this looks nearly similar to last year?
Starting point is 00:45:47 Worries what I'm going to say into a microphone this year, Pat. Oh, because you're worried. I like what I do as a job. And you like juju bees. I feel like I'm going to say something and I'm going to get fired. What are you going to say? Uh-oh. What are you going to say? Who knows? You're not a pervert? You're just Italian? Is this something like that?
Starting point is 00:46:03 What are you doing? Something worse. This is what I see wrong. What has you doing? Something worse. So when I see roadie. What has this been? Three days straight where Tony has said absolutely terrible things in a row. In a row. I didn't say anything bad there. I said I was boring. You kind of said it.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah, you kind of insulted him. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. You offended him. I learned nothing.
Starting point is 00:46:22 He's just a kid having fun. I agree. I agree. It seems like it's good energy there. It's preseason. Everybody wants him to not do it. He said, a kid having fun. I agree. I agree. It seems like it's good energy there. It's preseason. Everybody wants him to not do it. He said, I'm still going to do it. Mitt does it in his face,
Starting point is 00:46:29 but I do believe they are both potentially doing it for one person. Maybe Juju's also doing it for old Double M, who was ringside at AEW. Don't let me in with that fucking guy. Well, in that particular world, you're not all the time. Whoa, whoa, whoa. By the way, what was that? Tony.
Starting point is 00:46:43 This guy. Tony, again? Don't let me in with that? Tony. This guy. Tony again? Don't let me in with that fucking guy. Joining us now, Tested IQ at 166. Good for him, dude. You're right. What is going on? We got to wrap things up here.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for a new segment. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Rap Sheet, Wrap Up, and Friends with Ian Rappaport. What's going on? How are you, bub? I'm good. I'm good. That sounds... I like that segment. That sounds beautiful.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Well, it has friends involved in there, and I know that isn't something that normally is associated with your name. You know? What's that all about? Why did you laugh like that? Well, it has friends involved in there, and I know that isn't something that normally is associated with your name, you know. What's that all about? Why did you laugh like that? Because his podcast got canceled with all his friends, and you have to assume maybe it's because his friends didn't want to do the podcast. Rapshi, we're friends.
Starting point is 00:47:38 We're friends, Rapshi. We're friends. Yeah, we're allies. The guy got a new model. All of us or just a couple of you guys? We're friends, Rapshi. No, I like you, Rapshi. Diggs, I don't know if anybody wants to be necessarily friends with you right now. The couple days that you've strung together.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Diggs loves you, though, if that means anything. He is Italian, though, so what does that tell you? Not a pervert. Yeah, not a pervert. He is Italian. It's fascinating. Ian, big week in the NFL. Preseason games are happening.
Starting point is 00:48:00 We've got three tonight. We had two last night. We're back in the swing of things. There's a bunch of drama and bullshit. What do we need to know going into the weekend about the NFL you think that is big storylines that are potentially going to build? Alright, so a couple things we're going to kind of keep our eye on. And one of them we actually saw last night, which is what do these rookies look like? I mean, I think if you watched the Patriots game last night, and who was not watching Patriots
Starting point is 00:48:23 preseason football? I certainly was. Matt Jones looked pretty good. He did. He did, didn't he? Kind of did. Yeah, he did. He did. I mean, the thing about him was it looks like he's not going to stink.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I think that was my biggest takeaway. It looked like he wasn't going to stink because the poise. Now, granted, seven point something yards per attempt, and it looked like a lot of easy completions. He missed a couple balls, but him checking, running the hurry up, he looks very good. seven point something yards per attempt and it looked like a lot of easy completions he missed a couple balls but him checking running the hurry up he looks very good all reports are that he has been great this entire time cam still the starter is there any chance that's going to change especially not only in that situation but also chicago san fran there's a lot of that going on
Starting point is 00:48:59 right now yeah i mean obviously like when you know you draft a quarterback in the first round all anybody cares about is when's this guy gonna play and so like matt nagy and bill belichick can say as many times as they want cam is our starter andy dalton is our starter the questions are still going to come which is good because if people didn't want a really talented young rookie quarterback to play then like that would probably be a miss, right? So it seems like in all of these situations, the head coaches have been like, we like the rookies. We want to bring them on. We may actually play them. In San Francisco, Trey Lance may play some, you know, a Trey Lance package, if you will. But it seems like the veterans are going to get out there and start. Problem is,
Starting point is 00:49:42 if, I mean, last year cam newton at the beginning looked like a better than average viable quarterback then he got covid and it all went downhill if he falters a little bit it's just going to open the door for mac and the thing i would say about him last night it looked easy easy completions but like when tom brady was going I'm not saying Matt Jones is Tom Brady when Tom Brady was at his best every throw looked easy in this New England offense and that's kind of what that reminded me of last night I think so too and also the hurry up I mean he was I mean he looked very comfortable very confident and for me that is why I said hey this guy's probably not going to stink you just assume the man who had the highest completion percentage or whatever in the
Starting point is 00:50:31 history of college football national chip you assume that the throws are going to be able to be made now maybe the transition is going to be much more difficult and the long ball that he missed by half a yard that would have added probably another 80 yards on his night from and he would have gone 14 of 19 as opposed to 13 of 19 with a much larger yards and probably a touchdown by the way in that whole thing if he completes that we're having a completely different conversation about how he looks like he is the part full way but in my eyes mentally he just looked like he was there hopefully Justin Fields will be able to get a chance to read him as well. And Trey Lance. All reports are great there. Let's swing back to something that has gotten our boots in a bundle.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Let's talk about the genes have gotten a little snug in the baby-making regions. Maybe a little bit of a wet, a little bit of heat coming through. What is the deal with this taunting rule? Can you not? I told Tom to tell the NFL to cut the shit. I don't think he did it. He would never do that. He reads the memos.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I don't think he did. No, he didn't. Who is this? Is this Roger Goodell? Is this Walt Anderson in his first big play as the super ref guy, review guy, in his first move? He said, I don't want these guys having fun anymore. Why can't guys be emotional
Starting point is 00:51:46 in a game that they want people to care about in an emotional game? What is this about, Ian? Why are you guys letting this happen? I think if you ask members of the competition committee, and this is where the emphasis comes from. It's Rich McKay, who is the chairman. It's Troy Vincent,
Starting point is 00:52:02 who's heavily involved and does all the competition committee meetings. It's not that guys can't be emotional. They can be emotional. You want guys to be emotional. And I know that because we celebrate celebrations now. I mean, remember when celebrations used to be bad, now we have, like, segments on NFL Network championing the best celebration,
Starting point is 00:52:21 which I love. That's the way it should be. Yes. I just think – so I have two kids, beautiful kids. They're awesome. They have great hair. Awesome. And all I really want is for them not to be mean to each other.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Right? Like that's, I want them to have fun and play sports and do whatever, but just don't be mean to each other. And I think that's sort of what this is about. Oh, shut the fuck up. You can spin the ball, but you can't do it in someone's face. Ian, I hope your kids aren't watching. Okay, I hope your kids aren't watching.
Starting point is 00:52:50 They are not. Okay, good news. Tell your kids I'm big fans of them, please. But that mindset that you just said right there, get over it, dude. All right, we got people trying to kill each other. Now, I know heads up football, but everybody wants their kids to watch professional athletes, and they're not just playing for money. They're playing for the love of the game, the love of their team,
Starting point is 00:53:07 like college football players are. Now you want them to be robots and not be emotional and not be invested. There's different ways to look at that for the kids. Like, okay, I don't want them to be mean to each other. All right, that's one takeaway. I would like to argue that whenever somebody picks somebody up and then places them on the ground in a very delicate fashion and doesn't put their weight on them that could be perceived as mean but actually it's just competition it is sport it is different in the realm of competition than it is in real life you can't do a lot of things in real life that you can do in sports so i just don't think that is an actual i don't think that's a real i don't think hey ian don't give me that hey ian i don't need that right i don't have
Starting point is 00:53:44 kids so maybe that's why I'm cold-hearted there. Never watched a Disney movie. No, you were probably cold-hearted anyway. Well, to be— See what does that mean? Probably didn't feel that good. Me? I don't care. Yeah, yeah, go ahead and let it eat.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Call me cold-hearted. But what I'm saying to my kid is, like, hey, if you work your ass off to accomplish something— and maybe your kids should listen to this. We'll clip this part where I don't. I won't swear because kids might be watching. If you work your ass off, okay, I think that is a swear word. Yeah, he cannot swear. Really?
Starting point is 00:54:11 Right off the bat. I think that is technically a swear word. Come on. It didn't really hit me until afterwards. But whenever little Midas Michael McAfee comes, okay, and if he watches his uncles in the NFL and his friends that are in the NFL and they so happen to you know juju on somebody after something good happens or makes a celebration and Midas asked me why was he mean to him well he was mean to him because he worked harder than that
Starting point is 00:54:39 guy did okay he uh he beat that guy that is what happens he he sacrificed his entire life to be able to do that, to make a good living, to represent for his team. And when he accomplished it, he was excited. And his way of handling it was by dunking on somebody else. Now, Midas, I don't know if you need to do that. Okay, we don't need that. But I'm telling you, that's how some people operate. Can't we do that?
Starting point is 00:54:59 Is that not a way we could spin this thing? That's a good point. And I'm going to be really interested to see how this actually like is called and manifests itself on the field because people are gonna really lose their minds if you have the regular celebrations but a guy happens yeah like you hold the ball out you now if you throw it at someone i think that's bad but like let's say spitting the ball but someone's right there are we calling that like that's i think that's what. But, like, let's say spitting the ball, but someone's right there. Are we calling that? Like, I think that's what I need to know about the first couple weeks is, like,
Starting point is 00:55:29 how big of sticklers are we going to be? Because nobody likes the moniker No Fun League, right? Like, they don't even say that anymore because of the celebrations. But that's what it's going to be if they start getting real, real stingy on some of these, like, is it taunting, is it not, but still a penalty. Ian, I hate to break this news to you, and I know you've been working and avoiding fights with the Titans head coach and things like that,
Starting point is 00:55:52 but the No Fun League was trending for, I think, eight hours. Yeah. It came back. Was it? Oh, yeah. Ian, I don't want to say it was potentially, you know, at the fire, man, and we threw a little gasoline on it, but I do believe that the natural reaction was why because like you said back in the day there was no celebrations now there's entire segments it makes the entertainment better why are we trying to get
Starting point is 00:56:12 rid of this and i assume that if you make it a rule and say like hey you can't be egregious with it like throwing a ball at somebody like dancing on a logo like anything like that but the point of emphasis i think is what scares us all because points of emphasis, we all know, are like super regulated, right? And first couple weeks, they'll probably change it. Last night, though, there was a situation where somebody did a ball drop. Somebody was in the area. They didn't call it. I wonder if Walt and the boys and Troy will say, hey, this should have been called
Starting point is 00:56:42 or if that's kind of the precedent that's being set, you know? I will ask about that because I would like to know too, like should that have been a penalty or should that not have? Because it's, you know, we really should know the difference now, right, between like, you know, let's say you make a big hit on someone, you stand over and you kind of like, like that's not great. But holding the ball out, you know, something in their face and they happen to be there.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I don't know. I will ask your question because I hope that that was the right call. I hope so, too, because you can't take emotions out of this. You can't. You can't take emotions out of the sport. I'm not saying everybody should be like that. I think there was a lot of celebrations that were maybe, you're doing too much. I think there was a lot of that.
Starting point is 00:57:24 But if somebody's natural move is to, ah, and even yell at somebody, like I, why are we changing? Like, I don't know. Why are you taking that out of the competitive? Like, why are you taking competitors out of competition? I just, some people do things differently. And by the way, if the quiet person doesn't like that, easy way to stop it, just make a play.
Starting point is 00:57:45 You know what I mean? Like, that's kind of how sports have always been handled so i think you know like hey wear your seat belt type law we got going on here i think is maybe a my natural reaction would be like okay i could put it on myself if i want to if they don't want me to scream in their face tell them not to fucking let me do it like there's just a lot of that i think i might be in the wrong i might be old school uh I might not understand what's going on in the future, and I don't have any kids. So I guess that's an entire thing. Go ahead, Diggs.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Ian, Joe Sjobert, common to Steelers, late round pick. What kind of pick are we looking at? What was going on in Jacksonville? He's a tackling machine. Why didn't Urban want him? They just paid him last year. What's going on, Ian? Yeah, is he good still?
Starting point is 00:58:19 Oh, he's good. I was a little surprised by this. Now, I knew the Steelers were looking at all sorts of different options as far as trying to find a linebacker. They lost Vince Williams, which they were surprised by that. He's a locker room leader, literally showed up to Kevin Colbert, the GM was telling me about this when I was there, right before you guys dumped some absolutely incredible sandwiches in my lap.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Hey, we appreciate you, Rap Sheet. Man, we do. We really do. CFO Phil appreciate you, Rap Sheet. Man, we do. We really do. CFO Phil, man. Drive. So, right. So, basically, Vince Williams showed up. He was big into their plans, and they were like, he was like, I don't feel it anymore,
Starting point is 00:58:56 so I'm not going to play. And they were on the mad dash for a linebacker, and Joe Sjobert is good. He is kind of expensive. Seven and a half million dollars, so that's what the Steelers have to pay now. Joe Sjobert is good. He is kind of expensive, $7.5 million. So that's what the Steelers have to pay now. And that's why it's a late-round pick. And he is a tackling machine.
Starting point is 00:59:11 He does have great numbers. But I think what's going on now is you're going to see the Jaguars' defense will probably look like the Ravens' defense. And they have good linebackers generally with the Ravens, but they're not guys that cost a lot of money. They believe they can get it done without high-priced guys. They invest a lot in the front. They pay a lot of defensive tackles, but not a lot of linebackers.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Same organization that let C.J. Mosley go because they didn't want to franchise him. I think that's more what this is. Plus, he's an old-regime guy, and you don't get the benefit of the doubt if you're an old regime guy. He and Urban got beef. Is it because he announced a drill winner? Like Urban Meyer got on that thing and he was like, Joe Shover just lost again and it cost $7.5 million.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Is that happening down there or is it just business? I think you are going to see. I don't know for sure that Urban fell out of love with Joe Shover, but I do think you're going to see, I don't know for sure that Urban fell out of love with Joe Shover, but I do think you're going to see some interesting and fast declarations, decisions
Starting point is 01:00:10 by Urban Meyer, because that's kind of what this is. I would imagine cut-down day and the next couple weeks for the Jags are going to be interesting. And you usually see a lot of turnover. You just don't usually see it in camp. Usually
Starting point is 01:00:24 it's like March and april is when you see the new coaches make their impact i like that urban's finally got it because remember his big problem was he didn't get a chance to meet a lot of the guys that he's bringing in before he even signed him now he's getting to meet him he's like that guy's not on the edge get him out of here he ain't about duval get him out of here as well. Hopefully it works. If it doesn't, obviously people will compare him to how Saban was when he went to the NFL and many others. And also Chip probably. I mean, Chip had some success.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Bobby Petrino. Petrino. I mean, he had a hell of a workout. At all, by the way, down there in Atlanta. From what I was told, there was allegedly a couple of players that were going to fight Petrino, actually. I'm sorry. Yeah, whenever he was at that. going to fight Petrino, actually. I'm sorry. Yeah, whenever he was at the—allegedly.
Starting point is 01:01:08 These are just alleged things. Like, you guys aren't allowed to speak on the bus. Petrino, I got fucking more kids than you do. How about you? How about you get the hell out of here? How about that? Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Rapshie, two questions.
Starting point is 01:01:22 One, will we see Nick Casario on the sideline with a headset? And two, what sick son of a bitch at NFL Network put Cisleano in a massive chair last night? Yeah, before we get to the Casario, let's talk about Cisleano. The way you guys are handling him is unbelievable. He should be filing every grievance he can possibly file. You had him sitting in the same chair Willie McGinnis was sitting in. And you guys, the way the camera was, Willie's closer to the camera than Ciceliano. So not only is he sitting on a love seat,
Starting point is 01:01:52 or it looks like he's sitting on a love seat, they also put him further away from... I don't like what the NFL Network's been doing to Ciceliano on training camp. It's disgusting. Yeah, but back to Casario. Sorry about that. There's got to be a better word. When you're sitting on a love seat by yourself,
Starting point is 01:02:04 there's got to be a term for that. Like, it can't be called a love seat because there's obviously no love. You're by yourself. Well, that's what the NFL Network is showing. Sissano is the no love seat. Yeah, look at that. Come on. Hey, that's not the only one, by the way.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Whenever they're on the road out of practice. Yeah, the training camp. Him next to Joe Thomas. They put him on a slant. Oh, they had him downhill to Joe Thomas. Joe Thomas closer to the camera than him. Ciceliano looked two feet tall. I mean, it was unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Ciceliano, incredible host, by the way. Big fan of the way he runs things. Thinks he's very calm. I think you guys need to have a little bit more respect for this guy, though. He doesn't need to sit in David Baker's chair chair every single time he goes on tv that's how we're saying absolutely fair um i think that is what by the way a love seat is called if it's only one person oh a david baker david okay friend of the show friend of the show
Starting point is 01:03:01 he's just big i mean he's a great guy, but just very large. 400 pounds. Now, Beck, sorry that we kind of, because we do have some gripes with your network with what they're doing, the whole cis daughter, especially this week that Italians have had thus far. But let's go to another Italian, Casario down there in Houston. Yeah, so I would be surprised if he was on the sidelines with a headset. And I don't know for sure if general managers are allowed to be, but he was on the headset in New England in the booth.
Starting point is 01:03:34 One of the draws of him as a GM is that he can do a lot of things. He can jump in a drill and do it and get in the mix. He has a great arm. He can throw to receivers. He can coach which i believe he has done on some level uh and he gets in the booth and uh kind of up high and has a headset on and isn't involved maybe providing information maybe just wanting to know what's happening the inner workings of his team it is a different setup and i think you know when you
Starting point is 01:04:03 have a situation like Deshaun Watson, everyone questions everything. True. I've never – I do have questions with how they are handling that, but I've never had questions with him being on a headset because as a GM you should literally know every single thing happening with your team, and I think that does help him get in form. Okay, so Houston's fan base is incredible. Every time I played down there, they were loud.
Starting point is 01:04:25 They were all in. I think it's a very, you know, old school, all the way back to the Oilers. It's a smart football fan base, I think. They're a passionate group. But what's going on down in the Texans right now? You've got a pastor who thinks he's an owner. You've got an owner who thinks he's a pastor. You've got a GM who thinks he's a coach.
Starting point is 01:04:41 And you've got a coach. Who wants to be a fisherman. Who wants to retire. I mean, what the hell is going on down there? You've got a GM that thinks he's a coach, and you've got a coach. Wants to be a fisherman. Wants to retire. Yeah. I mean, what the hell is going on down there? It seems like they are the team going into the season that has the most amount of shit. Is that inaccurate? Are they the ones going?
Starting point is 01:04:55 Now, obviously, when I say shit, I'm not talking about the incredibly serious allegations that are happening outside of the football world to the most important player on the team who is also the biggest salary cap hit at quarterback. And I don't know how that's going to get handled. You have always brought us incredible information on that situation that has confused us on how they're going to manage that whole thing. But the Texans feel like a team that's destined for complete failure, right, at this moment.
Starting point is 01:05:20 You can't win games. It's not easy to win games in the NFL, especially whenever everything seems to be going haywire. Are they going to have any success, you think? Is there any optimism coming out of that camp, or do they feel good about everything? I wouldn't describe them as feeling good about everything because there's so much.
Starting point is 01:05:36 You're right. There's the obviously serious allegations against Deshaun Watson. There's basically complete roster turnover, just absolutely complete turnover. I mean, I know they went in there and did not think very highly of the talent that had been accumulated, rightfully so. They got rid of a lot of people, I think improved a little bit at basically every position. So they should be with Deshaun Watson a little bit better than last year and kind of moving up. Problem is, I don't know if they're going to have
Starting point is 01:06:05 Deshaun Watson. I know he is still intent on not playing there. So you talk about a situation where could they be terrible? Well, let's say at some point they eventually trade Deshaun Watson and they themselves are bad. Well, then if you fast forward a little bit, then you have a team that's terrible that will be trading their franchise quarterback for a ton of picks, so they'll have a high pick, and then they'll get a lot of picks, and then they have very few players
Starting point is 01:06:33 on the roster that anyone is tied to or tied to contractually. So I think that's what a restart looks like. So might they be bad this year? They could be bad, yes. But in the future, it's not that crazy, maybe maybe Easterby's looking at every other team and saying hey it's time to pay tides you know what I mean what Easterby and McNair are going to do to rebuild that thing in their name
Starting point is 01:06:58 in their eyes in their vision with Casario and Jesus himself at the helm I mean there is a chance this Texans team gets back because the AFC South is only growing. It's a bad time to be a Texan. Hopefully they'll be able to figure that out. Go ahead, Ty. Thank you for your time, Rapport, by the way. Ian, I know their Twitter account said that there's no cause for concern
Starting point is 01:07:18 or anything, but have you heard anything more about Dak's little strain he's got going on down here. He's in a tough spot, obviously, because they want to get him ready for the season, but is there any I mean, is he going to miss an extended period of time in the preseason here with this? The way it was described to me was
Starting point is 01:07:38 you'll probably see him in the third preseason game, which actually for the Cowboys is the fourth preseason game, but that is the hope. Get him on the field for like eight plays. Let them throw two passes quickly and get them out of there and start the season. I haven't sensed any concern. I think the only reason there's concern is because the Cowboys Twitter account tweeted that. And they are a little different.
Starting point is 01:08:01 You know, they'll do like criticism. They'll do commentary. They are more open and opinionated than a lot of other teams twitter accounts um but i do think it's hilarious because all they were trying to do is not raise concern and then everybody read it's read that and we're like oh my god there's concern it's like when you start a conversation with i'm not trying to insult you and you're like oh god what is coming here yeah i mean i i didn't actually you know i didn't actually panic because he was throwing and he if you read into it dac is actually i think waiting to get back to dallas to get the mri so they can further know what the hell is going on
Starting point is 01:08:38 but just like you immediately upon hearing somebody say this isn't a reason to worry it's like well here we go here's a panic for sure. That's just classic Twitter and overreaction. But Dak, hey, that Washington football team, hey, with Fitzmagic, it seems like they are a lock for that NFC East. Look out. Dallas Cowboys. Wow.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I do. I think so. The Cowboys' personnel is good. I agree. I mean, it is good. Always is. And Jerry, maybe we get a little bit more Jerry in hard knocks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Maybe that'll change the way I view who's going to win the NFC East or not. A little bit more Jer. A little bit more Big Mike. Let's keep Zeke in there. All right. Let's keep this thing going. There's been a couple bad hard knocks, everybody says. I enjoy it because it's like a peek inside of a building like basically my life was but i hope this could be very good with how great their personnel is to
Starting point is 01:09:29 your point a lot of superstars walking around that building down there go ahead gumpy yeah rap sheet how much time do you think two is going to get tomorrow in the dolphins first preseason game uh i would say my guess i don't know this for sure, but my guess is probably not quite as much as everyone thinks. I mean, well, I'd have to go back and ask and look at this. I don't know how much he got lashed. I know they want to get him reps. It's just never worth injuring anyone. So I'm sort of of the opinion of like just get them
Starting point is 01:10:05 get their feet wet, let them throw a couple times maybe get hit once in some sort of semi-safe way and get them out of there. Hit in a safe way. It's different than Don't be mean. Hit them in a safe way. Don't be mean. Don't taunt them.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Hit them in a safe way. It's football. I mean that's real life. It does sound like Tua's had a pretty good camp, and I don't know what he's going to end up being, but it seems like at least now he is a viable starter with a team, with a defense that should be really good. Let's go. Like, you know, I think they'll be okay in Miami.
Starting point is 01:10:39 We have one of the only Dolphins fans on earth here in the show. He's very excited to see. Wow, I didn't know that. He's actually the one that made Chan Gailey retire because he announced that he was dead. Hell of a career, Chan. That hire did not go great. Well, that's how he felt too, and he was very
Starting point is 01:10:53 loud about it on a regular basis, and we assume that members of the Gailey family saw that and maybe led to his whole thing. So we're potentially our toxicity knows no bounds, especially when it comes to our Canadian bearded dolphin fan. Last thing before we get out of here though. Yeah, he's from
Starting point is 01:11:09 north left Canada. That's a lot to handle right there. Fan of the dolphins down here. Yeah. It makes no sense. He also loves the Red Sox, which are over here. Oh yeah, go Sox. Which makes no sense. They stink, huh? No, we're very good. We're going to make it in the wildcard. We're better than the Yankees.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Yankees are hitting bombs, dude. You see what they did? They're hitting bombs and losing games. Well, that's because they put Barron in. You can't fucking put that guy in. By the way, you mentioned the Yankees game last night. So the home run in the, I guess it was the top of the ninth into the cornfield, the Yankees hit.
Starting point is 01:11:42 There was a great shot of a very large Yankee fan going absolutely crazy on TV. My college roommate. We saw a big drunk out there. Yeah. Yeah, that was awesome. Pretty great moment. How much did he pay for that?
Starting point is 01:11:57 Did he win the lottery, get the ticket in there? Did you reach out to him? How did he get in? I guess they were selling for. Yeah, I saw people scalping him like two tickets for 10 000 bucks uh last night he has been planning to go for like two years so i think he had i think he had the tickets on lock so yeah what a heartbreaker there at the very end last question so great i love it going into the weekend before we get out who are you a metz guy yeah they fucking stink you're a metz guy yep yep, yeah. They fucking stink. You're a Mets guy? Yep. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Yep. Coming off a big sweep, by the way. Who cares? I mean, they stink, right? They're not going to be in the game. They're not going to be in the game. Nah, Braves are coming. Get DeGrom back in September. Get Syndergaard out of the bullpen.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Big ball for them. There's a lot of good things happening with the Mets coming up. Not right now. Coming up. How many home runs did the Mets hit in Iowa? None. Next question. Let's move forward.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Last question before we get out of here, Ian. Can't thank you enough for your time on this beautiful wrap report, wrap up in friends, wrap sheet, wrap up in friends conversation here on this Feel Good Friday the 13th. Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers. We don't know anything. What do you know? It looks like he's slinging it all over the yard in the buckets
Starting point is 01:13:06 How is the whole kumbaya situation going? We saw good to Coons his press conference immediately after Aaron's 35 minute piece of art that he did Ginty Coons came in there still a little snotty still a little arrogant I think he came off as a big fat stooge in that particular instance, but they said there's pictures of them talking again. What do you know on your side? Are they getting back together? Is Aaron Rodgers going to be a Packer for a long haul? Is that the eyeball? Is that how it looks right now? Or are we still doing the same? It's just business. So when this deal happened, immediately everyone was like, all right, one more year for Rodgers last dance. Uh, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:43 him and Devante did the pictures on Instagram together, and that's it. I am not so sure, honestly. I'm really not because they seem not kumbaya but fine. I mean, you don't have to be best friends with the GM. All over the NFL, you have star players who are fine but not best friends with management. It's management. It's not like you have to be best friends with your boss. Although, obviously, in your show, you're the boss and everyone is actually best friends with management. It's management. It's not like you have to be best friends with your boss. Although, obviously
Starting point is 01:14:06 in your show, you're the boss and everyone is actually best friends with you, but it's not always like that. It'll end at some point, but we know that. Yeah, no, of course. This will end before then. This will have a Belichick, like, hey, it seems like our time is about...
Starting point is 01:14:22 Yeah, and then it'll end before it gets to that. Yeah, well, I've already told you guys, before it gets to that. Yeah, it will. I've already told you guys, you're going to have to do something else probably at some point. Go back to smoking cigs and laying concrete there. Nah, you'll have too much money. You'll have too much money to get back into that concrete thing. You'll probably blow through too many cigs if I had to guess. That's true.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Especially with that new mullet you got. What? And mustache. What? All right, sorry about that, but you're right. You don't always Man mustache. What? All right. Sorry about that, but you're right. Yeah, you don't always have to get along with your boss. I really think... I don't know if he's...
Starting point is 01:14:51 I do not know if he's going to be back next year, but I think they're going to be really good. I think if they are going to start paying attention to him and listening to what he says, and even if they don't always do what Roger says, just understanding his point of view yeah i really think it could be okay like he has said very clearly and as you mentioned that
Starting point is 01:15:10 absolute masterpiece for press conference he doesn't want to be a lame duck quarterback which at least would make me think that he thinks about possibly coming back again so he's not a lame duck i don't i don't know um maybe they had to get through it and get out the other side to kind of appreciate things i i don't know i think there had to get through it and get out the other side to kind of appreciate things. I don't know. I think there are a lot of options as far as how it actually ends eventually. Yeah, I think one side does appreciate things. The other
Starting point is 01:15:34 side is ingrates. You know what I'm talking about? I think I know which side you're talking about. Yeah. Alright, just make sure we had that clear. Double check. Because the way you were describing things, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're talking about both roads there. I think it's a one-way street of suck happening for a long haul here.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Just me personally, I am biased because Aaron Rodgers Tuesday is back. Yeah, you're welcome. That'll help your season out, I think, right? Did you just make the announcement or did we knew this right? This guy stinks. All right. Yesterday, dude. All right, thank you so much for your time.
Starting point is 01:16:10 I was playing golf. Jeez. How's the game? How's the game? Shot 85. It's fantastic. How many mulligans, breakfast ball? Did you fluff?
Starting point is 01:16:19 No. Played with one ball the whole time. Wow. I shot 39 in the back. Life is absolutely good. I'm never playing again. It's too good. Yeah, was that your last round of the year?
Starting point is 01:16:30 Yeah, before football season. Now you've got to actually work and stop being just a slapdick. I may sneak in a couple more. Why does that keep happening? I don't know. Bullshit. Ian, we can't thank you enough. Have an incredible weekend.
Starting point is 01:16:42 We're so thankful for you keeping us updated on everything that's happening in the NFL world. Enjoy the preseason. Are you on NFL Network all day this weekend or no? I am. I will try to sneak in a couple appearances before the games. I'll go to the pool, come do TV, go back to the pool, see how it goes. What a life, dude. Ladies and gentlemen, host of Rap Sheet, Wrap Up, and Friends,
Starting point is 01:17:04 the show that's on hiatus, Rap Sheet, Wrap Up, and Friends, the show that's on hiatus, Rap Sheet and Friends, and a insider for NFL.com and NFL Network, ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapport. Thank you.
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Starting point is 01:18:27 And if you did, can you tell me why I got attacked by the internet with me saying that it appears as if Matt Jones is not going to stink? That's what my big takeaway from the night was last night. Watching him, his confidence, his poise, the two-minute, the hurry up. It seems like he made no MAs. He missed a couple throws. If he hits one to Gunner, who he is used to throwing to. To Jim Waddle and not a cornerback from Bemidji State.
Starting point is 01:18:52 And Smith, who ran a 4-2 or something like that if he wanted to. He overthrows him by half a yard. It's a completely different night. I fear for everybody that Mac Jones is not going to stink. I think he's going to be good, A.J. Hawk. Why are people upset by this, though? Because Ryan Mallett, obviously, 10 years ago, he had a good preseason game. I was told Joe Flacco, is he going to be a fucking MVP?
Starting point is 01:19:18 That's what people were told because he threw a screen pass for a touchdown last night. It looked very comfortable. It's like, no. And also, he didn't just throw checkdowns. His average distance was like 7-point-something yards. It's just, for me, I got attacked, I think, because of the hatred for the Patriots. And I think that is something that,
Starting point is 01:19:35 on the opposite end of that, as somebody who's a Patriots fan, the way he's feeling, the complete opposite is how everybody else feels. And the way Connor feels is... Well, I mean, a year ago, everyone was talking about the dynasty being dead forever. And here we are a year later, and holy shit, we got 15 more years of Super Bowl football.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Yeah, I'm pretty pumped. So that's where he's at, okay? And that's where New England's at. And I got a lot of check marks from the New England area retweeting that tweet. And there's a lot of mass holes coming in like, yeah, yeah. We did it. We're back. But on the flip side, I think a lot of people thought that dynasty was dead.
Starting point is 01:20:05 We're never going to have to hear from these motherfuckers again after Tom Brady went down to Tampa and won the Super Bowl. I think that is what people thought I was implying. I'm not. I was just saying after the first preseason game, with all that you can get out of reading the first preseason game, I feel as if he's not going to stink. I think he's going to be really fucking good, actually. Now, I don't know if he's going to be great, but I think he's not going to stink. I think he's going to be really fucking good, actually. Now, I don't know if he's going to be great,
Starting point is 01:20:25 but I think he's not going to stink. And that is a nightmare for 31 other franchises who were celebrating their demise just a little bit ago, I think. Okay, so I understand now more why people are coming at you. Yeah, so people are just fed up
Starting point is 01:20:38 with the Patriots winning. They're saying, hey, their time is done. We don't want to watch them dominate again. Hey, who cares? Whatever, like, get over that. But when it comes to watch them dominate again. Hey, who cares? Whatever. Get over that. But when it comes to, I would be more worried. I'd be questioning who's going to be our starting quarterback.
Starting point is 01:20:51 How do you feel about Cam? I know he didn't throw the ball down the field much, didn't have many opportunities, but is Cam still the guy? Obviously, we're not changing anything now, but I think you have to feel good about it if you're a Patriots. Like, hey, man, we got some guys. Did you see? Did you see Johnnie Smith's catch too early?
Starting point is 01:21:06 Okay, Johnny looks like a guy. I think they're going to need one more weapon if they want to keep up with the top of the AFC. I think they were allegedly in on Julio, so they might be thinking the same thing. Michael Thomas seems like he was available maybe a couple days ago, and I think New England's name got thrown out there because they do have the capability to go and make a play there but did you hear the pop when mac jones came on the field did you see that reaction didn't he have i thought i saw a clip where he they like over a minute standing oh yep oh yeah it was fucking banana land dude they were going crazy for him and we thought maybe boston connor here was over exaggerating how excited he was for Mac Jones with every day came a new story or rumor or
Starting point is 01:21:48 fairy tale or folklore or tall tale about Mac Jones. And every day, Connor was just eating it like Zeke at a bowl. I mean, just old Zeke at a bowl, just absolutely going in. I think all of New England's feeling that way. You know what? I mean, we've never really had like a rookie first round quarterback come in and have the hype and expectations around him. Because when Tom came in, obviously, 199 wasn't supposed to be the guy, and we haven't had one maybe
Starting point is 01:22:13 since Ryan Mallett, if you want to throw that guy's name back out there. But that's why everyone's so pumped. You finally get a rookie quarterback. You go 7-9. Maybe we can turn this whole thing around. And it looks like we will. When Tom came in, too, though, the Patriots weren't the Patriots. Tom made them the Patriots.
Starting point is 01:22:29 And without Tom, there's no... This is kind of like what Troy Aikman said to Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones on the Hall of Fame thing. Those two, I guess, have had super beef. They've been friends since college, freshman year of college, and roommates or something like that. And Troy goes, hey, listen up, Jimmy. Great hair. Love the house down, the keys that you got.
Starting point is 01:22:46 You'd beam in from it to Fox and you'd do great on TV. I love you. As a coach, I love you. As a peer here at Fox, you wouldn't have been the coach you were without Jerry. And Jerry, by the way, just exactly the same thing there. You wouldn't have been anywhere near the owner without Jimmy. Like, hey, you two need each other. That'll obviously be the Tom Bill Belichick thing.
Starting point is 01:23:02 But you're right. That dynasty didn't start until Drew Brees took one of the hardest shots in the history of football. It took him to a hospital and then ended up retiring. Bledsoe. Yeah, sorry, Bledsoe. Same thing. Drew Brees is completely okay.
Starting point is 01:23:17 By the way, he had broken lungs and ribs last year. But Drew Bledsoe goes into the winery after that shot. The dynasty begins. But Matt Jones potentially coming in being the first, what, 14th pick? 15th? 15th, yeah. 15th pick overall in the NFL draft after their first bad year in forever. You know, and Cam is up against it here.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Cam is very lovable. I love Cam. After what he did last year, and then if he does anything wrong this year with the way they react, that is a Mac Jones town, I think, until they're deemed otherwise. Cam doesn't deserve it. Hey, Cam does not deserve it. He could have won more games last year, I guess,
Starting point is 01:23:53 but he didn't have a great roster around him, so he's just kind of in the situation he's in there. But that is a Mac Jones town, right? Yeah, absolutely. And you guys talked about it yesterday, like the pocket presence, that type of stuff is so important. And just clearly already Mac seems to have like a much better feel as opposed to Cam, who doesn't talked about it yesterday, like the pocket presence, that type of stuff is so important, and just clearly already, Mack seems to have a much better feel as opposed to Cam,
Starting point is 01:24:08 who doesn't have a bad feel, but everybody wants to see Mack, and he can make the checks at the line with blitzes that Cam has obviously struggled with, struggled with last night, which led to the Chase Young forced fumble. Had to get the jitters out there on that first pass a little low. Guy caught it, and then Bill was like, it's fucking preseason. I'm not challenging him. Yeah. Okay, what do we have now?
Starting point is 01:24:27 We have a third down play. Cool, we'll work on a third down situation. It's kind of how Bill, who also allegedly got upset with Ron Rivera calling a timeout with 21 seconds left in a preseason game. Bill Belichick going, okay, all right. What are we fucking doing here, all right? What were you going to say, though, Diggs?
Starting point is 01:24:42 Yeah, I was agreeing with AJ and what you guys are talking about. It's a great match. I thought it looked great last night,. What were you going to say, though, Diggs? Yeah, I was agreeing with AJ and what you guys are talking about. Like, it's a great – I thought it looked great last night, but you're not going to win a lot of games sitting on the bench being the backup. Yeah. Oh, you're saying they need to start him now? Yeah. Well, now it's the –
Starting point is 01:24:56 What about Cam? What if Cam comes out on balls, dude? Yeah, but when's the last time that's happened? It has been a few years. There's a lot of injuries that have happened. He's healthier now than he's ever been, which takes me to another quarterback. Tom Brady says he feels better than he has in 14 years. Greatest of all time.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Since first time I haven't worn a knee sleeve in forever. Got his knee fixed last year. Was allegedly not fun pain wise, but Tom just powered through and they won, allegedly behind the scenes. And this is not the first time that Tom Brady has battled through something that would be very painful to go and play football the guy loves the sport remember he had a uh almost damn near yeah sutured up thumb or sutured on thumb two days because old rex ran into him on a handoff exchange before a playoff game the thought was he wasn't going to play put a glove on shot, shot it up. Won. Obviously. That is what Tom Brady
Starting point is 01:25:46 has done. Nobody talks about his durability, mostly because he falls down if anybody's around him. That's kind of his move. I'm going to get to the ground as fast as possible here. But if he was playing through as much pain as Clyde Christensen said he was last year about how uncomfortable it was, who's his quarterback coach,
Starting point is 01:26:02 and now he's feeling even better. He had a good offseason, second year in the system, got his guys back. I mean, that's scary for everybody, I think. I think it's absolutely scary. You can't see Tom slowing – it doesn't look like Tom's slowing down is what I'm saying. It helps that he never was like an out-of-the-pocket guy that's flying around. He doesn't have to count on that because guys, eventually their legs will go and they'll slow down a little bit, but Tom doesn't need that,
Starting point is 01:26:27 and his arm seems to be as strong as it ever has. So whatever he's figured out, he has it rolling, and it's his mindset. That's the biggest thing about Tom, I feel like. His mindset drives everything. He doesn't care. He's just going to find a way. He's going to win. He's going to play through everything.
Starting point is 01:26:42 He's going to find a way to get pissed off, get a chip on his shoulder. He's going to win. He's still picked 199 through everything. He's going to find a way to get pissed off, get a chip on his shoulder. He's going to win. He's still picked 199 in his mind. And with a quarterback coach like Clyde telling him, you know, Niners picked Josh Rosen over you. Other places like that. He will continue to be motivated. Now he's healthy. We all know about the TB12 and pliability.
Starting point is 01:26:58 It looks like he's going to be able to play. While we were chit-chatting there about him never really being a guy that flies around, so his durability, he's been able to last longer than some of the guys that maybe take more shots outside of the pocket, which is an added bonus to the game. It's not a drawback, but you're jeopardizing long-term, long-term stuff. Whenever you're playing like that, you're adding a different dynamic. I'm not trying to slight the out-of-the-pocket mobile quarterback, athlete quarterback.
Starting point is 01:27:22 I love it. I think it's a big part of the game. But I wonder, just alongside everybody else, especially with the Matt Jones conversation going to San Francisco over the potential Trey Lance or Justin Fields or somebody that can move, we wonder, like, is the pocket quarterback, I don't know if you ever did, AJ, you're much smarter than I am in the football world, is the pocket quarterback potentially dead with this, the pocket passer potentially dead with the way the offense is, with RPOs, with the way the rules are. Offense alignment are basically allowed to be down the field if you're doing some stuff, which is a massive advantage.
Starting point is 01:27:52 You've got to use every single square inch of the field. You can do that now if your quarterback can move. It adds a lot of things. You know, why would you get a quarterback that couldn't move nowadays with the way the offense is? The pocket passer will survive forever huh yep because there is a there's a proven success you have to have a line obviously because you have to have a pocket when you have a pocket passer but there will always be a place
Starting point is 01:28:15 for somebody that can just stand in there and throw it even though those jobs are probably going to become much smaller in the coming future right aj well yeah and think of where they're getting those quarterbacks from. They're all coming from college, running these spread offenses, and they're in the gun, and they have to have these RPOs. So naturally, you're having more athletic guys playing quarterback, I think, early on. I don't think it's going to turn to where everybody is like
Starting point is 01:28:37 Lamar Jackson-type quarterback where they're so athletic and they run for so many yards. But it definitely will be. I mean, Mahomes is pretty much a pocket guy, he can move he's deceptively fast he's very his pocket savvy is unbelievable and he can backpedal like you say and throw it a million miles but yeah i think that i mean a hybrid seems like the best of both like aaron is absolutely a pocket guy he can be that guy but he's so athletic and so quick and does have that pocket presence though to just slide and move in the pocket well aaron also and I think that is why Patrick Mahomes and Aaron
Starting point is 01:29:07 are always, you know, same commercial, same conversations, same everything, basically, because Aaron has his own, that hybrid slot is very much like Aaron owns that in the history of football. And the thing about it is he has that ability to move, just like Patrick Mahomes does. And Patrick Mahomes said that he did this in the Super Bowl and he needs to work on it.
Starting point is 01:29:26 But Aaron somehow avoids the temptation. Whenever things are crashing down, he still is like, all right, pocket passer, pocket passer, pocket passer. And then it's like, all right, now I have to make a move or whatever. There was a lot of plays last year even where that pocket is all the way on him and he's just sitting in there delivering it when he could have just skirted out. Everybody remembers the play before the field goal.
Starting point is 01:29:47 He was looking to pass, pass, pass, but he has that ability to move. Patrick Mahomes, very similar thing. But I just thought that there was a chance. If you couldn't move, if you couldn't be a hybrid, if you couldn't be the all-out best athlete on the field quarterback like Mark Jackson is, Kyler Murray has a little bit of that. He's going to continue to hopefully get better and better at that whole thing. I just thought you had to move.
Starting point is 01:30:09 And that's why. Mac Jones had to have a second pro day, actually, because they wanted him off-balance throws and moving. So I thought that was like a very common narrative. And then watching, you know, like Tom, that would then mean that I would have to be saying like, oh, well, then Tom's not going to be able to keep up with this league for four or five years.
Starting point is 01:30:26 And it's like, if they protect him, he'll be able to do whatever he wants forever. There will always be a place for that. And I think people were trying to tell me that whenever I was being a bit dramatic maybe about that whole thing. I would want a guy that can move personally, but there's definitely a way to win. And if Matt Jones can't move, which who knows if he can or not. I mean, they said he's much more athletic than you think and all that.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Right, 4-6-3. But him and Cam vastly different, honestly. But if he can sit in there with McDaniels, with that offense, with the reads, too, if they're running the same one that Edelman was able to eat off of, and Mac and the wide receiver can be on the exact same page and the photographic memory can tell him exactly what's going on, I mean, there's a chance that that offense is going to be going. I mean, there's a chance, especially if everybody thinks that McDaniels is the heir
Starting point is 01:31:09 and Steve Belichick is the heir and then Matt Patricia is the GM heir. It's like they'll be able to keep that in system forever. They just got to hope that they're a success, and it appears as if there's definitely a chance that that could happen. Well, and him coming from Sarkeesian's offense doesn't hurt either because that was the NFL prototypical, a lot of motion, the RPOs and all that. But even if you look at a lot of these quarterbacks that have been drafted, like Burrow is definitely a pocket guy, can still move.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Herbert obviously can move. I mean, there are a few. It's almost like a lot of the dudes, because of how the offenses in college are with the spread, no matter what, they have to kind of have a little bit of – Mack, though, did not. That Alabama offense was him sitting there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:47 And it was seven on seven, basically. Yeah, because when they would run the ball with Najee, he would go. And then when they wouldn't, he would be able to just hit Devontae Smith wide open down the middle. He was sitting in full perfect form. I saw him a lot, and he was just not moving. Everybody else, though, does have to move. AJ, you were going to say something. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:32:03 What was it? Oh, I mean, I think you, to be a successful quarterback for a long time, to have a long career, you can't be a run-first guy where things break down. Wasn't it Mitch? They were trying to get Mitch to stay in the pocket longer. He wasn't trusting, and then all
Starting point is 01:32:18 of a sudden, you want to use your athletic ability and get out when you just need to hang a beat longer for something to open. I think if it's guys that are passers-first first and they have the athletic ability and they can beat you with their legs, that's what you want. Not a guy that his first instinct is, oh, let's tuck this thing and run because I'm more athletic and I can beat everybody. Now, unless you're Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 01:32:36 If you're Lamar Jackson – That's the thing. There's a few outliers. He's an absolute outlier because I'm like, okay, can you move like Lamar? Can you throw like Lamar? Do you have his mindset? Okay, then don't – like he's different you throw like Lamar? Do you have his mindset? Okay, then don't. He's different. Yeah, Lamar
Starting point is 01:32:47 Jackson's an alien. Jumps over jet skis or runs into him on the beat. He just does everything. A moss cup of guys in flip flops. I mean, he's great. Him hitting that guy with that stutter step spin move and falling. The guy falling.
Starting point is 01:33:03 He dumped his pants, came back, and led him to victory. Yeah, how about that? That is awesome. But to your point, Josh Allen, he was moving a lot. He got better at passing. Baker Mayfield, he was moving a lot early. He got better in the pocket. Patrick Mahomes still.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I was getting out of the pocket more. It seems like although the narrative is very much much like hey out of pocket out of pocket got to be able to make these off balance throws got to be able to move got to be able to extend plays i think that is all accurate i think that is all 100 accurate but when you listen to these quarterbacks talk they all say i got to get better in here like this is where i gotta be accurate you got to be an accurate passer like a a consistently accurate guy, no matter what your athletic ability is. Did you see Dewey Haskins last night? Hey, slinging it.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Taking a 15 overall. Picks. How do you feel about Dewey Haskins as a Pittsburgh Steelers fan? I think he was, what, 16 of 22 for, like, 170, led three touchdown drives. I don't know. Is that good? You tell me if that's what you want out of your quarterback for a football team. What did Mason do?
Starting point is 01:34:03 Mason was 8 of 9 for like 70-something. Dyson. Almost got Najee killed. Which did piss me off pretty bad. You were unhappy? Pretty bad. It was classic Mason where he dropped and when he doesn't know where to go, when things don't open up for him, he panics.
Starting point is 01:34:20 And then he stared at Najee for about 3 or 4 seconds and said, hey, I'm going to throw this ball to this guy in like three seconds. Everyone run as fast as you can at him. And then when they threw it to him. So he pointed at him. Yeah, pretty much. And then threw the ball to him.
Starting point is 01:34:32 That's awesome. But he did have, like Mason will make a nice throw every once in a while, but then he'll do some shit that just. My completion in the NFL, I did stare down my receiver, so I don't want to judge them for that. But it does feel as if quarterbacks that are good in the NFL have an ability to disguise where they're headed. Eye manipulation is a huge part of being a quarterback. And Mason, if you're saying that it was a problem last night,
Starting point is 01:34:55 even though he went 8-9, almost killed a guy, I mean, Mason doesn't move, right? That guy can't move. Does Dewey run? A little bit. Not really. I mean, he can, but, right? That guy can't move. No, he's not. Does Dewey run? A little bit. He can. Not really. I mean, he can, but, yeah, that's not his thing.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Yeah, he's a slinger, right? Yeah, I don't – Mack Jones probably ran a better 40 time than he did. His first touchdown pass last night, though, he broke out of the pocket on the run, put one in the back of the end zone. He can maneuver through the pocket well enough to scramble and throw. He can extend the play. Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:22 That's Ben Roethlisberger, by the way, just classic extending the play. Is Pittsburgh excited for Dwayne Haskins mostly because you hate Mason Rudolph or because you think, like, yeah, this guy actually – I don't think that first part hurts Dwayne, but he has like everything that everyone's tweeting out, like who's been at camp and stuff like that, says he's looked good. So it's both things combined. Jalen Hurts last night also big-time, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:44 spotlight on what the Eagles are going to look like this year. Sirianni, talk to the media before the game about the game and his thoughts were this. Well, Jalen's going to go out there and he's going to break down the defenses as complex as they may be. He's going to do it very simply and very efficiently because I've been talking to him all week about the minor, small details, and that's how we're going to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers. We're going to win this football game, and Jalen's going to look good during this football game. Sirianni actually said, we'll win this game or I'll quit, I think he said, right?
Starting point is 01:36:16 Isn't that what he said? I've considered it, but once again, we didn't get to implement the Kobayashi element for tonight's game because things were not ready. COVID has ran rampant on us in that regard, but we will get that implemented. Those little things, those little small details
Starting point is 01:36:34 that we love, we're going to get those ready to go before the next game, and we will win our next football game. I guarantee you, you can mark that down. Wow. Thanks, Coach. Coach, can I ask you a question? All right, here we go. He's a press conference. This is a press conference, yeah. Coach, what do you
Starting point is 01:36:50 think your record's going to be this year? Well, again, it depends on those things we're trying to do, those small, minor details, and a lot of that comes back to Jalen's play. He's a competitor. He loves playing rock, paper, scissors with me in the meeting rooms. He does pretty well.
Starting point is 01:37:06 I think he's won about 64% of those games right now. If I had to guess, our division is, I mean, it's NFC East Smash Mouth Football. So I don't know if I had to guess. I would be very, very happy if we won at least
Starting point is 01:37:22 four games this year. Coach, you being a first-year coach, Mike Tomlin's been in the league a long time, very successful. Did you talk to him pre-game? Did you learn anything from Mike last night? Not really. Tomlin kind of climbed me before the game because I think he saw some of my previous press conferences
Starting point is 01:37:37 and I didn't get any face time with him, but I did hear someone say, this guy's a fucking stooge. I figured that he didn't want to talk to me guy is a fucking stooge. I figured that he didn't want to talk to me. Again, I don't know. I had a football game I needed to get ready to coach. Thanks, coach. AJ, this is so rude.
Starting point is 01:37:52 What, are you over here? Somebody called him a stooge, but you said this is so rude. You're the first one to ask the question. You're the first member of the press. I didn't know where it was going. I'm sure you did. Anyways, let's get to Jalen, though. Jalen, there was a ball to Goddard.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Yeah. Goddard out to the right. It seemed to be like maybe a little banana route. Yeah, it seemed like it. It was almost like a post, but out. Spider too wide. Yeah, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:18 But fuck it. The dude ran him around. He was pretty well covered. And Jalen threw an absolute seed. I mean, it was a rope. It was a seed. It was right in a spot. The only spot it could have been led him.
Starting point is 01:38:32 He could still run. It was a perfect ball. I didn't get a chance to really see a lot of the game because I only got to see one of the games here in Indiana on NFL Network, which is 2021. Fucking A. Can I not watch the goddamn game? Come on. $113 billion was just sent., can I not watch the goddamn game? Come on. $113 billion was just sent. I can't find the Steelers-Eagles game.
Starting point is 01:38:50 And I don't know why I wanted to watch it. Probably because of the punting competition happening in Pittsburgh. But Jalen, I think, looked very, very good in some aspects. Missed that one ball down to the left. There was a drop that affected an entire drive that would have changed everything. But I think Jalen looked very good as well last night so if you're an eagles fan there's probably not a lot to celebrate with the entire roster especially a statue was built just a couple days a couple years ago but maybe hey maybe things are going here no as someone who in the past has not
Starting point is 01:39:19 been a jaylen fan i thought he did like he threw some good balls last night even the deep ball that he missed to the left um I don't even know if that was on him or the wide receiver. I was kind of impressed by Jalen. I'm looking at the stats. I didn't get to watch the whole game here. Jalen Hurts, 3 of 7 for 54 yards. Joe Flacco, 10 of 17, 178 yards, 1 TD.
Starting point is 01:39:38 79 yards to that screen. Okay, I get it. And that was the one touchdown. But that's still 99 yards, right? If you do the math, 178 minus 79 I think is how long But that's still 99 yards, right, if you do the math, 178 minus 79, I think is how long it was. So 99 yards against Hurts' 54 yards, 17 attempts versus 7 attempts. Why is Flacco getting all this extra work instead of Jalen Hurts, AJ? Is it because Footsteps Flacco is potentially going to be?
Starting point is 01:40:01 Well, yeah, they've got to keep him fresh because you never know when you're going to need the Foot footsteps to come in and save the day. But Hurts only had two series, I think. So does that mean he's definitely the starter? Feels like it, right? Yeah, that's what it looks like, doesn't it? His relationship with Devontae as well. Like if Devontae Smith's out there on the left side
Starting point is 01:40:17 where he barely overthrew that dude for the 95-yard touchdown, you know, he might catch that and take it to that. He missed it inside too, I think, on that particular one. But I don't think the wide receiver stacked the corner which is another full conversation to be had on was it the quarterback's fault or wide receivers fault and if we had or shalofsky or trent delfer there well where he threw the ball was where the sun should have been you know that seems to always be the way which by the way might be right who knows but i think in real life it's not as easy as just, oh, Stack the guy runs a 4-2. You should be able to do that, and then we'll be able to put the ball out there.
Starting point is 01:40:50 But I'm pumped for preseason football. Dan Campbell, MCDC, debuts tonight. There's no way the Lions lose, AJ Hawk. I actually saw you guys talking about this. It does seem to make sense, right? Like the Lions should win 95-0 tonight. Yes. Boom.
Starting point is 01:41:04 100%. How much is golf playing? Do we Lions should win 95 to nothing. Yes. Boom. 100%. How much is golf playing? Do we know? I want to say starters were the first half. All four quarters for golf, I think. In all honesty, I thought I saw a quarter. I could be wrong, Foxy. It was a quarter of the first half.
Starting point is 01:41:15 I saw it like a couple days ago. I want to see golf. I'm excited to watch the Lions' defense or offense play. I'll tell you what, man. I'll tell you what, man. I'm excited to see them, too. This kind of stuff just makes my blood boil, man. Hey, what about game day?
Starting point is 01:41:27 First time as a head coach for the Lions. I guess you were an interim head coach for the Dolphins. But now that you've become the mascot for all of Detroit, was there a different order of coffee this morning with the first game on the horizon? Absolutely not, man. Same thing. Big Venti. Need the Venti.
Starting point is 01:41:43 And then, again, two black eyes in each of them. Deuce, deuce, deuce, deuce. Need to have it, man. Same thing. Big Venti. Need the Venti. And then, again, two black eyes in each of them. Doos, doos, doos, doos. Need to have it, man. I'm ready to go. Hey, coach. Last game day, man. Did you watch anything last night to get your head right into the right space or no? No, I actually just went out back to my patio and
Starting point is 01:41:59 slammed my head against the concrete wall for about 16 hours, man. Gotta get ready. It's football, man. I love it. I don't have any questions. I heard you say, hey, coach. I thought I had a question. I do not. Let's get to the five-hour energy phone lines. Good luck to the Lions tonight.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Obviously, we're betting on the Lions. We love Bill's Mafia, but this game doesn't count. It only counts for one person, one city, one team, and that is MCDC Detroit Lions. That's a preseason team in football. 0-16,
Starting point is 01:42:33 they went 4-0 in the preseason that season. Actually, Paul, the Ravens haven't lost in 17 preseason games all the way back to 2015. Gumpy there with an incredible stat. That was unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:42:49 That is a little nuke. Yeah. That is a Gumpy nuke right there. I think I saw that going around the internet, so Nick saw the same tweet that I probably saw. Sorry, Gumpy saw. That's unbelievable. Like, that's more impressive than Cal Ripken Street, probably.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Oh, yeah. How do you win that many preseason games in a row? Do you think they have, like, you know how in baseball games they count the amount of Ks to strike out somewhere? Do you think in Baltimore they have just like a what are those things called? Tally on how many preseason games straight? And do you think Harbaugh pointed at that
Starting point is 01:43:17 last night and said, hey, let's go get fucking 17. Let's go get 18. Do you think he's doing that? Do you think he is? Absolutely. That's really impressive 18. Do you think he's doing that? Do you think he is? Absolutely. That's really impressive, I think, actually. I don't know if it's... It's just weird. I don't know how it happens. I'm sure you know.
Starting point is 01:43:34 A lot of players don't know what the score was at the end of a preseason game. I could not tell you how many preseason games we won or lost. I can tell you how many times I did a front flip in slow motion on HBO though. And that was once when the Bengals were on hard knocks and I got a punt blocked. And what I'm saying there
Starting point is 01:43:50 is that was the worst moment of preseason history for me. And I made sure I didn't do that again. We're trying to get through there. But they must focus on the details more than everybody else. Because the details are what lose your preseason games. Because a lot of guys have no idea what coverage they're in. A lot of guys have no idea what coverage they're in a lot of guys
Starting point is 01:44:06 have no idea what special teams units they're on eight hardball is a special teams guy so you know he he's okay all these other teams got substitution errors all the stuff that the giants had to run for practice like not having enough guys on field goalies that will not happen here and that's going to win us every one of these fucking preseason games now when it's an entirely different team we're playing where we have wearing our uniforms on the football field when the regular season starts, we're going to try to carry over this win streak. But what we're saying is the details, we're all battered around here.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Also, don't forget they've had great backup. Tyrod. Boom. Bob Triple Sticks. What? Ozzie Newsom's a great drafter. What? Trace McSorley.
Starting point is 01:44:44 What? Jimmy's famous. What? Trace McSorley What? Jimmy's famous What? Super spreader events What? Are you still doing that? I don't know I haven't heard from him in a while
Starting point is 01:44:54 Hope you're alright Troy Smith was there What? Flacco What? Starter Yeah It's got the five orange front lines
Starting point is 01:45:03 I hope they be up 30-0 By the time we come out of the first quarter. Yeah, you're right. I understand. And that continued last night for the Eagles with Joe Flacco. What's his record in preseason? 26-0. Maybe, right?
Starting point is 01:45:15 Because he's carried that over. Well, he lost last night. Oh, yeah. Won. Before last night. He didn't start, though. No, true. It doesn't count.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Just like old buddy got a win last night for the White Sox. Yeah, Hendricks. Yeah, he got a win whenever they gave up the lead but then got it back. Is it because he didn't give up the lead? No, he gave up the lead. It's because he was the last pitcher in the game, and then they won in the bottom of the ninth, so he gets the win. The guy, the closer?
Starting point is 01:45:39 Yeah, who gave up four runs in the ninth. Yeah, he gets the win because he blew a save. Is it a blown save? He still has the blown save. So he'll have seven blown saves on the year. I think he had six going into the night. Joe Buck was pointing that out as it seemed to be unraveling. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Which is great commentating, by the way. I don't know why. So he has seven blown saves, but he gets a dub? Yeah. So he's the only pitcher to ever win in the middle of Iowa, and he potentially had the worst half inning out of anybody. For sure. Congrats to him, dude.
Starting point is 01:46:08 That's what he did. And he had an interview, right? Yeah. About two innings before that. With who? Tim Kirchner? No, it was with Joe Buck. Bummer.
Starting point is 01:46:17 We need more corn content, by the way. They did an entire corn piece with that guy wearing a bow tie thing talking about how there was some tough winds that were blowing down these stocks. They were knee high by the 4th of July, but then old mother nature said, let me blow some of them down. So they had to actually put up beams to hold all the corn up so that they could get that beautiful outfield that we saw on TV last night.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Good move. Yeah. They need a couple of D rogers to go out there through the fields and get rid of some of them tall, tall stocks. I didn't like how they use fake hay. Really? Yeah. There's a couple of ones on that. Like the pitchers. What do't like how they used fake hay. Really? Yeah, there's a couple ones in there like the pitchers,
Starting point is 01:46:48 what do you call that? The bullpen? Yeah, they had a fake hay there. I was so mad. Fake hay? Yeah, it was basically just posters in front of boxes. No! I don't want to take anything away from FOD. I'm not taking anything away.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Hey, did they not market this game? Who gives a shit? Oh, no, they did. No, they did. We did, too. I didn't see. I know, but I feel like I didn't. They should have.
Starting point is 01:47:11 Guy Fieri. Everybody should have known about this. Guy Fieri was on every morning show talking about his apple pie hot dog, dude. What morning show? Hoda Khatab? He was on that. He was also on, I think it's just. Good Morning America.
Starting point is 01:47:24 This morning, too. CBS This Morning. Good Morning America. This morning, too. CBS This Morning. Good Morning America. Today Show. The Today Show. What? Jimmy Brown. He was on with Ryan and Kelly.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Yeah, I think... Yeah, so Guy Fieri was almost hired by Manfred to maybe promote this, and he's having that donkey sauce apple pie hot dog thing. That's basically the most marketing I think he got. I don't know if... Bad choice. I don't know how the MLB... Come on. That's basically the most marketing I think you got. I don't know how the MLB... Come on.
Starting point is 01:47:48 That's a terrible choice. Mario Batali? Did the MLB know it was going to be a smash? They knew. Yeah, I would assume so. How come it wasn't just a full-out marketing press? Well, if a guy Fieri posts one time on his Instagram, you know he's going to make the whole thing famous, so it's not like he needed
Starting point is 01:48:04 to do that much. You did tell's going to make the whole thing famous, so it's not like he needed to do that much. He did tell me that. Make the whole thing famous. Make the whole thing. The whole thing. All of Iowa. Make the whole thing famous. Put it on the map.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Thank you, guy. They should have been pressing that hard. And if they did have the fake hay, Zito just looked it up. I can't find it right now. Easy, pal. They document all the footage. Yeah, smart. So guys like you couldn't find it.
Starting point is 01:48:27 People that were looking for the little intricacies that are really making this show kick. They're in Iowa. John Deere's there. I don't know. Yeah, and all they had to do was take the tractor another round. Another round. Another round. And he takes the tractor another round. Another round, another round. And he takes the tractor, another round, another round.
Starting point is 01:48:50 He said, I never complain, I never ask why. Please don't let my dreams run dry. Underneath, underneath this ever-reel old sky. I thought about that a lot last night. You know, as I was watching that corn blow in the wind and the fireworks were going and baseballs were getting hit in the corn. You know, because rain makes corn. Corn makes whiskey.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Whiskey makes my baby. Little Frisky. That's all I was thinking last night was, you know what, this is beautiful. This is America coming together with America's pastime. But you tweeted about how you hated the game. Hold on. I was getting a little tired. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:49:39 I was getting a little snoozy there. And I watched from seventh inning on, everything changed. I mean, it was a dream, like a dream game for them, for Fox. Yeah, it was like a playoff atmosphere, you know, in the middle of summer here, you know. It's not October, but it felt like it maybe for a little bit. Yeah, true. I mean, especially when it was the middle of Iowa,
Starting point is 01:49:57 when that gangster from Montana that changed Tone Diggs completely into what Tone Diggs has become does a three-inning interview. And, you know, it really makes you feel like this is awesome. This is what I want to watch. I'm not falling asleep at all. Is Mac Jones potentially slicing and dicing over there? I'm going to go over there. But then whenever I came back, seventh inning, I was wrong. And I put out numerous follow-up tweets.
Starting point is 01:50:19 And that's what Twitter is, by the way. You put out a tweet in the time that you're in. That's why the algorithm is kind of fucked up that they save it for later. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa we're at a much different time now this is like a pawn stars thing okay seventh inning it was awesome eighth inning amazing ninth inning spectacular somebody tweeted me and said that that ninth inning will be better than any fourth quarter in the nfl this season that person's a fucking idiot but it was awesome that was maybe the best i've ever seen baseball. Yeah, it was pretty sweet. I mean, you are right.
Starting point is 01:50:45 You know, the innings, I don't know what, five through like eight there. I mean, we didn't have any offense, but started out with a lot of homers. I mean, getting eight homers in this game was like, you know, dream scenario. There's no way they could have anticipated it did as well as it did. The guy that got the dub, he does this whenever he's looking at the catcher? He was in before that guy. That was Kimbrel. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:08 This is Kimbrel. Yeah, Beast. Oh, too soon. This is awesome. It's like a cobra. Yeah. Is that what he's trying to do? Make himself –
Starting point is 01:51:13 I mean, if Fox was smart, they would have snuck in the juiced balls for him for this game. They didn't need them. The corn sweat was making the ball fly far. I'll tell you what, man. So, hey, Pat, are you saying that Kevin Costner just wasn't bringing the juice? It was terrible. It was the worst interview I've ever heard in my entire life. He said a couple things that were good.
Starting point is 01:51:31 What was the Garrett Cole interview before that might have been worse? Kevin Costner buried Joe Buck. I mean, so that was a little bit of electrifying. Read the room. But it was just – read the internet, I guess. Read the internet. But he said a couple things in there that were good. I was like, but three innings of this.
Starting point is 01:51:47 I went back and back and back. I was like, okay. Still here. And back. It was just like, I get it. Field of Dreams. He walked through there. He did great speeches.
Starting point is 01:51:56 He was very motivating. He gave credit to the writers and everything like that. Obviously, he's a great thespian. Okay, I'm a big, big fan of Kevin Costner, the gangster in Montana, the baseball guy in Bull Durham, the golfer in Tin Cup. I'm a big fan. Waterworld. Who?
Starting point is 01:52:10 Oh, yeah, Waterworld. Yeah, I've never seen that, but I'm a fan. All right, I'm a fan of Kevin Costner. I just didn't think, you know, three innings. He was a killer with Ashton Kutcher in that one movie. Mr. Brooks. I am Mr. Brooks. Dane Cook.
Starting point is 01:52:22 My bad, Dane Cook. Yeah, that's Mr. Brooks. I've watched that movie like Dane Cook. My bad. Dane Cook. Yeah, that's Mr. Brooks. I've watched that movie like ten times because it was the only one that was on this one plane we flew every single season. So that was weird. I mean, what a wildlife there. He's got range. Okay? He can be a drunk pitcher.
Starting point is 01:52:35 He can be a drunk golfer. He can be a motivator. He can be a goddamn murderer. Okay? I get it. Kevin Costner, incredible thespian out there. But three innings is the equivalent of five hours. And that's what it felt like whenever he was in there.
Starting point is 01:52:47 And I think they kind of set him up for failure. But aside from that, a little bit of a snooze out there. But that thing ended perfectly, I think. Yeah, it was an electric finish. Started well, ended well. Let's go to one 5-Hour Energy phone line call here before I have to bounce out and hit the road to Tulsa. Go to 5hourenergy.com.
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Starting point is 01:53:25 the title sponsor for the electric phone lines that we will head to right now. Zach, in Arizona, what's going on, pal? Pat and the boys, let's fucking go. Okay, first, I'd like to shout out my dad.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Only Colts fan out here in Arizona that I know. But is Evan Foxy in the house? What's up, man? Hey, so I just got a question for you. You turned your back on the pack last season. You think the fan base even wants you in the line? Good question.
Starting point is 01:54:04 He said he turned your back on the pride, right? Is what he meant? Yeah, he said the pack. He said the pack, but the pack of Lions, you did turn your back and became a Steelers fan. Is everything all right? Everything's fine, all right. When you're a Lions fan, you know you got about six or seven weeks of football,
Starting point is 01:54:21 and that's it, and that's why I'm so juiced for this preseason game tonight so when the lions you know are out of playoff contention and can't go 10 and 7 and win a playoff game sometimes i gotta look around and i gotta say hey how do i extend this football season and sometimes you gotta see a team that's undefeated and ruin them and ruin them yeah absolutely and by the way the lions, I think they have appreciated Foxy because Foxy's the only Lions fan that has a microphone. I don't think there's a – Jalen? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Jalen, but he talks basketball mostly. I'm not sure he's really – Foxy is the only Lions fan that is outside of Detroit that speaks into a microphone. Bob Ritchie does a lot. Okay. Oh, yeah. Huge Lions fan. Foxy and Bob, then, is what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:55:07 Lives in Nashville, too. One and the same. Yeah. Print the shirt. I just want you to be accurate. I don't want you to, like, you know, leave people out. Kid Fox. Fox.
Starting point is 01:55:18 AJ. Kid Fox. It is amazing, by the way, that your brain can just that smoothly, easily. What do you mean? I play there every year. You're just waiting for the Lions. Yeah, but I'm just talking about it from a sports standpoint. So I think they appreciate Foxy. This is a whole new Lions, by the way.
Starting point is 01:55:36 You guys got a new mascot. You guys are off and running. Before we get to a break, I'd be remiss if I didn't talk about the coolest billionaire walking this planet. Okay. There is a lot of stories told about a lot of billionaires. a break, I'd be remiss if I didn't talk about the coolest billionaire walking this planet. Okay. There's a lot of stories told, told about a lot of billionaires and not enough of them are good and told about Jim Irsay. Jim Irsay, owner of the Indianapolis Colts has obviously had a hell of a life. It has been documented. He is friends with rock stars. He has gone through stages of his life. I think that he does not necessarily look back upon and be like, hey, those were good
Starting point is 01:56:08 decisions. But what he has become, where he is at in the human that I got to know behind the scenes whenever I was playing for the Colts, this guy deserves a lot more fucking credit and respect than the billionaire who's cool conversation. While all these other billionaires are trying to get to space, let me tell you
Starting point is 01:56:23 what Jim Irsay's doing. He's buying guitars, pianos, hosting parties, building ice skating arenas for his grandkids, donating to every foundation, and riding in the back of drop tops with 28s on them alongside Adrian James as he goes into the Hall of Fame and cutting a promo for him and saying something that is cooler than any other billionaire has ever said to one of their players or humans they've ever worked with. Ferrari a Lamborghini The Hall of Fame car he's got his side but it's a Rolls Royce or Bentley or a Lamborghini But he's gonna be rolling in style And I'm even gonna put something in the glove compartment as a surprise.
Starting point is 01:57:28 Okay, so is that a shit ton of money? And by the way, I think he was just bullshitting with Edge as he's rolling through there, and the Colts probably just had that camera on at all times, like, hey, we'll just catch whatever's good. And then Edge goes, wait, you're getting me a... Let's get this on. Okay, this is really awesome. And Jim immediately goes into promo.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Just starts cutting a promo into the camera. Fucking awesome. I hope Edge gets a Rolls Royce, by the way. I think that is – I didn't know – I assume Edge didn't know that that was on the table until Jim said, hey, Rolls Royce. Edge will make the right decision. Jim Irsay just deserves a little bit more, hey, that's a cool fucking guy. You know what I mean, AJ? I mean, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:58:03 And other owners are probably like, come on, man, you're killing me. Now, if we have Hall of Famers, they expect a loaded Winnebago from me or something. Well, the Fords won't even give Calvin Johnson his money back. Yeah, well, he's got to do 28 hours a day of Detroit Lions service, and you'll be able to get that money back, even though you're a Hall of Famer,
Starting point is 01:58:22 and you're representing Detroit in the Hall of Fame, which I don't know how often that's going to happen. You give us 28 good hours of work, fucking give you your money back. That's very nice of Detroit. Hey, good for Detroit. Hey, Jim Irsay gave Andrew Luck $25 million
Starting point is 01:58:40 whenever he retired eight days before the season started. I said, just keep it, dude. Whatever. Jim Ursa gave me a six-figure bonus for something that I did not necessarily complete. I got voted into the Pro Bowl, didn't play in the Pro Bowl. I guess playing in the Pro Bowl was a part of it because of the spectacle, the NFL ass, that whole thing. So he didn't have to give me a bonus. Oh, brother, here. And he just gave me even more, I think. I mean, he is just, he's the man. He's awesome.
Starting point is 01:59:07 And not enough good things are said about him. I'm happy we can continue to do so. And hopefully the Colts social media will continue to spotlight him. All right, that's the show. Can't thank you guys enough for watching, listening, interacting with us on Twitter, all that kind of stuff. There's a lot of shit out there that you could listen to, and we appreciate that you decide to spend time with us.
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