The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 474 - Preseason Week 1 Recap, Kirk Herbstreit, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 16, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys are joined by AJ Hawk early to chat about Pat's crazy weekend in Pittsburgh for his brothers bachelor party, and how it was nice going back and catching up with people and places he hadn't seen in awhile, plus they chat about all the different NFL preseason games and how the rookie quarterbacks played including Justin Fields putting on a show, Jordan Love looking good in his first game time as a Green Bay Packer, Zach Wilson looking good in New York, Tim Tebow having a tough time blocking in Jacksonville, and all the other biggest takeaways from the first week of the NFL preseason (:30-27:35, 58:17-1:12:53). Later, the voice of College Football, going into his 26th year on College GameDay, and author of a new book, Kirk Herbstreit joins the program to chat about how the landscape of college football is changing, what he thinks is going to happen with all the conference realignment, how NIL is running wild and what he thinks is going to eventually happen with that, how deeply personal his new book is and how he shared a lot of things that he'd never talked about before, why he doesn't think we're going to a 12 team playoff anytime soon, and much much more (29:35-58:15). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Monday, August 16th. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes. Great conversations today with A.J. Hawker, Curbstreet, the boys. Preseason football is happening. Life's happening. Let's go. Let's enjoy the hell out of this Monday. The NFL season's right around the corner. Football is in the air. Let's enjoy this day. And if you do enjoy the show by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Let's get this day And if you do enjoy the show by the end of it Please be a friend, tell a friend If not, just act like it never happened Let's get to it Had a wild weekend celebrating Jason McAfee

Happy birthday, Jay Happy birthday, Jay We'll talk about all that throughout the day Obviously it'll probably get brought up numerous times The amount of Italians back in Pittsburgh I've always said, hey, a lot of Italians A lot of Italians, a lot of Italians, a lot of Italians. I feel like we've talked about Italians more than any

other show, maybe until Cuomo did his thing about Italians and that whole thing, but I forgot how many... It's even more than I recall. A lot of Italians. Yikes. We stayed in a Rick Schuette neighborhood while we were driving past Petropolis. Okay. I ran

into the Bellino family who was up on the field kicking balls. We had a future of plum kicking, by the way. There's another one, blonde-haired kid named Angelo Bellino. He's 14 years old, got an absolute can of he's going to go. Obviously, Miraldo was there, Peronio was there, Impavito did not show up. I mean, it was just the Italians were in abundance.

And on our way out of town we stopped at this little brick thing in the middle of a parking lot called scoops this ice cream there's this probably 40 year old italian lady who did not have any time for any of our shit just sent us on our way out one of jay's friends from indiana that got invited back uh he asked uh for pistachio ice cream is what he asked for so I stopped at this little Scoops place Like two minutes from the airport we're flying out of And it's literally just one window You drive through and there's a line

I mean it was the only place in town We go what do you want I go I'm reading the order Can we get pistachio ice cream She basically where the fuck Pistachio ice cream Get the hell out of town. It was an amazing weekend.

Jay, I can't thank you enough. Excited to be here. Got a chance to catch up with all the preseason games this morning. Didn't watch the entirety, obviously, of most of them, but we got a chance to see all the highlights. Excited to chat about all that and more. Joining us early, as opposed to a normal 1 o'clock start Eastern Daylight Time, to join us for this first hour before he goes and saves the world with his brother-in-law Brady Quinn. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk.

How are you, Mr. Hawk? What's up, guys? I know you had a very eventful weekend, so I'm sure you'll talk about it as the show goes. I'll come back and watch it later, hopefully. Well, no, listen, I mean, we can get right to it because you did text me yesterday, how's the bachelor party? And as I want to respond to you, I actually fell asleep on my phone. So, I mean, it was a long Friday. Tulsa was great, by the way. Tulsa, Oklahoma. Are you a champion now or something? Are you a champ? I saw some pictures. We did it. We won the Intercontinental Championship. Me, King Nakamura, and Rick Boogs. Yeah! Come on! We're the champions. Name a better trio, right? Yeah, you tell me. I don't think

anybody can. Actually, King Nakamura went to his Twitter account and put crown, guitar, and football, and he said name a better trio I think in Japanese, by the way. Oh, really? Sweet. I mean, international superstar Pat McVie, Rick Boogs, and King Nakamura. But yeah, we did it.

We won the championship. Did not know that was happening, by the way. Had no idea. And then I was like, oh, I think I won now, too. And then Boogs comes flying up on the table. It's like, oh, I'm supposed to get up here with him. I was yelling in Michael Cole's microphone from the desk while standing there. Go to hell, Cole.

I did not know those microphones were so good at funneling out all the excess noise. Because I was yelling in his face. And I watched it back. Couldn't hear me say anything. Kind of a bummer. Wasted a lot of energy there. Got tired. But I had a lot of fun in Tulsa.

We tried to stop and buy some dope there. It's only medical, I guess. I thought we were over. Really? Come on, Oklahoma. Yeah, it's only medical. Nick got kicked out. They said, do you have a license?

Go back into that fucking tornado that's about to come through here. I mean, it was a good little stop in Tulsa. Tornado alley. Who knew? It actually is. Oh, yeah. There was a flood. Nick's got actual footage of him trying to drive to the dispensary to pick up some dope.

And he drives through a flood. And then there's a homeless man pooping right across the street. Oh, jeez. Yeah, from there. Welcome to Tulsa. Yeah, well, he had to poop during the rain, though. That was smart because it was like he had a wet wipe. Yeah, true.

You've got to take advantage of those storms whenever you're homeless and you're pooping. You know what I mean? And that's what he did. But Tulsa was incredible. Very nice. Hopped on a plane. Got back to Pittsburgh about 1 a.m., 1.15 a.m. Tried to stop and buy some booze at a place we used to stop at called Big Dogs.

That place has been turned into a place called Shoot. He's a very different Different Animals. Soon as we walked in, though, to pick up some brujas, we saw a lady who we didn't know was working at this place. She was coming out of the bathroom, though, and she had one, and she wanted to grab for some sort of

something to brace her. And it did not show up for her at that moment. And she flat-bapt, bump! She took a bump. Right as soon as we that moment. And she flat bat, bump. She took a bump. Right? As soon as we walked. As she's reaching, literally walk into this place. It's back in Plum.

So there's obviously going to be a little bit of something anywhere. And as soon as you, I see her go, Nick! I yell. And I point. And all he sees is her head disappear from below there. And at that exact moment, right, we knew, okay, we're about to have a weekend here. We're about to have a weekend here. Get some beers. We're weekend and get some beers only allowed one case per okay whatever rules we got going on sounds good this ain't my big dogs now with a new name and new face but they were very nice to us it

was great we go back to the house we're staying at we were staying at a very nice couple's house ain't that right jay i mean it was i've never stayed in a house that was that lived in before yeah jay was sleeping in their bed jay was sleeping in their bed. Interesting. Wow. Jay was sleeping in their bed. They lived there. What do you mean by lived in? Like dirty and gross? No, it wasn't like a professional Airbnb. It was like these people would just get away on the weekends and they're like, here, take our house.

They actually live in there. They're like condom wrappers on the nightstand and stuff? No, these people aren't using condoms. That's what we're saying. It is a very very, I mean, they were a straight edge crowd i think this crew and uh we opened and you got like their lego waffles sitting in there it's like do i eat these people's it's 2 3 a.m i'm very hungry it is a cheat day and they have an entire it was very much their house though like you know what i mean like they were there they were living in there so it was

nice house it was very cool we were in in CFO Phil's neighborhood, though. And I guess as soon as we rented the house, the entire neighborhood found out that we were going in there. So the next morning when we woke up to go out and golf, we opened it. It was like the entire neighborhood was just staring at our house. I'm running on a couple hours of sleep. I'm sleeping on the couch or whatever. We did take off to the moon immediately upon landing, and we had to wake up early to go golf or whatever. Open the door. Neighbors across the street

sitting there. All the kids staring at the house. Next door, everybody staring at the house. People walking down. How's it going? I was like, oh man, I am not. Hello everybody. Good to see you. Everybody was incredibly nice. James Harden. It's like the video that you imposed yourself with

James Harden. Basically, you relived that. that pretty much but we're standing on top of this driveway looking down at everybody you know what i mean so it was like kind of an interesting whatever it was very friendly neighborhood everybody was real nice we go to the golf course lose our minds for seven hours yeah i mean had the entire golf course rented out for the group we had a blast we drank a lot the owner is a friend of ours. He played golf. I mean, it was just a great time. But I think we got too intoxicated, Jay.

Like, I think that is something. The sun came out, and it really took a turn. It was a seven-hour round. It was seven hours of golfing out there in the middle of the hills. Yeah, when that sun came out, I think it definitely took it all out of us. Yeah, and we just had a never-ending supply of booze. Wait, 18 holes in seven hours? Seven and a half, I think it definitely took it all out of us. Yeah, and we just had a never-ending supply of booze. Wait, 18 holes in seven hours? Seven and a half, I think, is what it actually was. Wait, and you had the whole

course rented out? Yeah. How many groups? Well, it was one big one. So what were you guys doing for seven and a half hours? Having a good fucking time. We're matriculating our way. Hey, you know what's best? I knew as I was asking you follow-up questions that Nick

was just steaming back there. He gets so mad when I ask questions. Well, we were 10 wide on every hole, and we were playing a scramble, you know, because there were some people that should have never picked up a golf club, and they never have, actually. And then we had a guy who Jay's friends with who was trying to get into the U.S. fucking open at one point. Damn. I mean, there was

quite a range of golfing abilities. So we just did a 10-person scramble, two teams of five, and just took our time and got incredibly intoxicated. And it was a blast. Jay's team won. Congrats, Jay. Wow. Good work, Jay.

It was all our ringer, though. I can't really take much credit. No, Jay had a lot of good balls. Jay's a much better golfer than I think I had seen him at the last time he played. Now he actually uses a driver. Jay was big-time three-wood off the deck in the tee box, a par-five box i'm part five guy you know i'm not using a driver because he had bad experience he just got one i think jay's a whole new golfer but then we're going to go to dinner after that you know so we did go to dinner and then it was like the dinner was good but it was very

you know we're all zombies at that point sure there was a lot of dope flying around there was a lot of booze and we had been outside for eight hours and in the sun cooking. I mean, just absolutely cooking. We get to this dinner. You know, we see some people we know, full conversations. But then it's like 9, 10 o'clock. And it's like, what are we? We're not going home right now, are we?

So we obviously go to the fucking casino. Yeah. Here we go. In the casino in Pittsburgh, everybody knows all roads lead to the casino in Pittsburgh. If you're in Pittsburgh, if you're from Pittsburgh, you're visiting Pittsburgh, all roads lead to the Rivers Casino. That's just how it goes. And for a long time, we've always said, and Foxy lives by this code because he has seen it in action. You come to Pittsburgh as a visitor.

You go to the Rivers. You get like $200, $300 worth of chips. You're tipping the city yep that money's never coming back that you do not win at rivers pay your dues you just go in there and you just pay them money and then you leave it's like hey pittsburgh take care of me this weekend i don't want to end up like that guy that aaron donald saved on the south side of pittsburgh where he almost died because that can't happen in pittsburgh so you're just basically going and tipping the corner you know what i mean you're go to the Rivers Casino, I need 300 bucks

chips. You guys just keep it. Don't even give me the chips, actually. Just take it. That's how it's going to go. Let me tell you, this one went. Place was packed, obviously. A lot of fans in there. We appreciate the hell out of all of you for saying hello and being nice. Seems like a lot of guys are using fake IDs to get into that casino. I saw a couple 12-year-olds on the blackjack table. No big deal. I hope they get their money. But it was very fascinating to see how packed out it was.

And guess what starts happening? What's that? We sit at a $50 men blackjack table, the only places that were open. Gave Jay some money. Jay's playing with his own money. Me and Jay are playing. Somebody else is playing. There was a dealer named Nathan.

That guy might have been the greatest fucking blackjack player to ever play blackjack. Oh, no. Ever. Most electrifying as well. He's a fan of the show. Big shout out to him. He could have done us some favors. He did not. We're talking, hey, Pat, here's 20. Hey, Jay, here's 19. Okay. Hey, guy that was playing at the end of the table who was much more miserable than us. I don't know what he had going on. Yeah, he'd been there a while. He was probably way down. He was not happy about this one. Hey, here's 18 and then dealer showing like a four or three nathan this guy best blackjack player of all time we're all like hey

we're into money here 50 men so you can see how the the hands could potentially go and pick up pace a little bit and then he would turn obviously six card 21 yeah it was like all right all right we get it nathan we get it we understand how this casino works you take all our money so then he did that he proceeded to do that what like 10 15 straight hands i think pretty close yeah and i got to the point i'm like i'm fucking out of here so i pick up that money we're all about dead tired let's go home we just had a little bit of a night members of our crew were passed out sleeping in the sports book like full body passed out on the thing i mean we there was it looked like the the beaches of normandy with our crew around the casino in different spots.

It was a whole scene. So as we're walking out, I have a few chips left. We put them on black, obviously. Got to do it. Boom, obviously black hits. So somebody at the table goes, oh, run it back. I think bitch is what was said. Whoa.

Yeah, you're right, man. It would be much easier for me just to leave here without these chips anyways that's kind of what pittsburgh is so i run it back guess what black hits again here we go so then hey one more time you won't do it again all right fuck it run it back again all of a sudden i have a lot of money yeah you know things start happening whenever that starts hitting three quick spins shout out to uh i think his name was derrick who did the spinning shout out to him i get my now I have a shit ton of money. Oh, my God, I've never done this before, I don't think.

I've got to go to the cashier. Okay, I've got to go cash out of here. This is awesome. Nobody does this in Pittsburgh. I guess their new racket is they'll let you in, but you can't make it to the cashier. 55-minute wait to get to the cashier. Oh, my God. This is the first time anybody has ever won at the Pittsburgh Casino ever.

I don't think their cashiers knew what to do. I think they had to do an entire course on how we actually give money back to people because that line, they had a full snake and then it went around past the cafe to get to the cashier. And I'm like, of course, they've never had to fucking do this

before. So I just gave all my money to one of my brother's friends that lives in Pittsburgh and say, and say hey fucking come back at some point so i lost i won that is what the pittsburgh casino is i won and i still lost but we had a great weekend so it feels like it all worked out yeah shout out to everybody back in pittsburgh it was amazing seeing everybody uh and thanks for all the hospitality back there but yeah it was unbelievable aj i mean couldn't even take my money on when i won because it was like 7 a.m. I would have got out of there. Who has the time to win here?

Sounds like a great plan. They seem like they have it all figured out. Even if for some reason you do win, they're going to put barricades in the way so you cannot actually get cash back. And they know if it's you, you especially are going to forget forget about those eighteen thousand dollars in chips you have under your mattress well it's not they're not in my mattress they're under one of my brother's friends and i told him hold on to those he was pushing bitcoin hard all weekend i was hey these chips are never going to change price you're sucking make sure you get in there make sure you get in there before the river sells out i don't

think they will ever we touched on the golf real briefly before. Are you going to talk about the video you took of CFO Phil and what happened to him? There's some damning evidence of CFO Phil in the golf course this past weekend. He did have a lot of great shots, but it just so happened that every time I was filming, he had his worst appearances. He wasn't exactly thrilled about the cameras.

No cameras. Phil also showed up six holes late. Phil also wasn't at his house whenever we took our bus to his house to pick him up because he said, hey, I'd like to tag along with you guys today. 20 minutes before then. So, cool. We drive our bus past his neighbors. Hey, how's it going, everybody?

Good to see you. Up to his house. Knock on his door. Little Phil answers. Okay? Little Phil answers. I think his wife said, i'm like oh no did phil tell the family he's with me and i'm just showing up hey where's where's like i thought

hey i thought phil caught himself in some shit or whatever you know i'm like i'm hey your dad's a good guy i've told little phil hey no matter what you hear your dad's a good guy i don't know what's gonna happen your dad's a good guy you know like good to to see you. And then I go back to the bus. I'm like, I think I just fucked up Phil's life here. You know, I think it was a real problem. We FaceTimed Phil. We're like, where the hell are you? He's like, I'm at the fields, dude.

We got to fix the fields before baseball season or before a tournament or something. I'm like, you literally just fucking said Q tag along. He said, I got to finish here and then I'll see you. I'm like, does your family know that you're at the fields or whatever? Because I just showed up at your house. He said, I heard my neighbors told me that you were knocking on my door or whatever. I'm like, does your family know that you're at the fields or whatever? Because I just showed up at your house. He said, I heard my neighbors told me that you were knocking on my door or whatever. I'm like, Jesus Christ. So Phil shows up six holes in.

And I'll tell you what, it did not take him long. He got right into the swing of things. And then in the most beautiful golf hole in the history of golf, he took a big boy hack at it. And he called this a practice swing, which we do not take into account. He did knock it off the tee early. Obviously, this is a lot of Phil, though. A lot of Phil. But Phil, I have never seen, that's a foot and a half

behind the ball. Never seen it. I don't even know if they would count that as a stroke because of how far behind. Here's our guy Chris. He owns the course. Hey, listen. I've never seen that big of a difference between where your club hit, and then he obviously slaughtered that one about two, three fairways left. And this is not a good indication of how Phil played the entire day.

But there was 10 guys. I was trying to film everybody. You know, it's kind of a little different. Every time I was trying to get a good one of Phil, something terrible happened. I mean, it was just, I didn't mean to post it either. I accidentally, I typed it up and it accidentally went out there. It was fucking awesome to see Phil again, obviously. He is an absolute stud and a savage.

He graced us with his presence, which we're very thankful. Aren't we, Jake? We're very thankful for Phil blessing us with his presence. That was very nice of him to do that, AJ. I sense some sarcasm there. What's going on? He said, can I tag along with you guys today? And then we fucking take the bus to his house.

It's a scene. It's a scene. He knows it's a scene. We know it's a scene. Everybody knows it's a scene. Like, I'm the idiot. He starts talking to me. Like, we're the idiot.

I'm cleaning the fields. How the fuck am I supposed to know? I mean, it started with, we're in his neighborhood. We are 10 houses away from him. It's an entire scene. He did help us out and hook us up with everything, though. Let's not get crazy. The reservation we had, which had incredible chicken parm.

The best. The best chicken parm I've had in a long, long time. Phil did a lot in his golf game. Did not get displayed well because, honestly, that's the only footage we have. He hit like a 390-yard drive maybe on the last hole. Damn. Didn't get any footage of it until afterwards. Cameras weren't out.

Like, hey, look where this landed, you know, which is kind of tough for him. I didn't mean for that, but at that point, we could have never expected him to have success, and he did. How about the people, though? The people of Pittsburgh were awfully nice to you, greeted you, sent you off with a good farewell as well when you were leaving Sunday morning. The neighborhood guy walking his dog just really made you feel at home. Yeah, so much like the first day, Saturday, whenever we walk out of this house in his neighborhood where everybody knows we're there.

So it's like as soon as we started smoking, I assume all the kids in the neighborhood were like, they're smoking cigs out here. The neighbors were like, no, no, shut your noses. Shut your noses. That ain't happening but on sunday morning you know it was a little bit later sleeping we're debating on whether or not to go golf again when we were very drunk sober mind sunday morning i think everybody looked in no we ain't doing that we slept in a little bit and uh i don't know how the entire neighborhood knew when we were coming out of that house but as we were coming out they might have had like eyes on us actually with like binoculars as we're coming out neighbors

across the street were there a friend had just arrived from somewhere at the neighbor's house then somebody else over here then a 65 year old man wearing crocs walking his american bulldog was walking down the street he was a podcast guy that's what he says to me so i i am in an incredible state of mind at this point. We're just trying to go get some Rudy subs, which, rest in peace, we found out. What? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, COVID, you motherfucker.

Okay? COVID has done a lot of terrible things, obviously. Okay? I don't have to say them all because we'd be here all day. We don't have enough time. A lot of great humans lost their lives because of COVID. There was a lot of things that got shut down and stopped, and our world's never going to be the same because of COVID.

But I'm going to let you know, from where I'm sitting, I'm going to really hold a grudge with COVID for a long time because of what they did to Rudy's fucking subs. I think Rudy's subs is over. No. Open sign on. Schedule on front door says, hey, we are open right now where you are there. Door locked, nobody inside.

My God. Two days straight. Oh, you guys tried multiple times. We did, and we sent a runner the first day. So Rudy's... Might be dead. Unfortunately. Tried to call, the phone number was disconnected.

No, yeah. What? Jay, thank you for reminding me of that, but yeah, that did happen. It was on speakerphone, and obviously as soon as that thing went to, this lumber is no longer... Gut punch. Didn't want to have to do this again. phone and obviously as soon as that thing went to this lumber is no longer oh gut punch didn't want to have to do this again but we have to we have moment of silence for rudy sub is the greatest sandwich on fucking earth dude greatest submarine on planet earth dude it's not a hoagie either

fucking scram they have meatball subs all right i don't think they do i don't think they do i don't think they do i'm sure nick gets i don't think i don't think that no. I don't think they do. I don't think they do. I'm sure Nick gets the meatball sub. I don't think they do. No, he gets the Italian probably because it's the greatest sandwich they got over the steak and cheese maybe. Yeah, I get an Italian from there. I honestly don't know if they do or not from there. Which even more so, best fucking sub joint of all time.

They will not even stoop to the depths of hell that you all do with meatball subs. You're like, yeah, we ain't doing it. All right, you didn't even say all that. Come on. depths of hell that you all do with meatball subs. You're like, yeah, we ain't doing it. You didn't need to say all that. If you want to eat a meatball alongside a pasta or something, you can do that, but you ain't putting it on a goddamn fucking sandwich anywhere it's supposed to live. Can you imagine the gravy that Rudy's probably had? Hold on, Zito, what are you talking about

here? Oh, they do. I just looked at the menu. Yeah, but that menu is from a clothes store. We don't know if that's... We don't know if that's an updated menu or not. And maybe they added it and that's what happened anyways I'm not going to say it but we tried to get Rudy's alright we tried to eat it and it is not

that is a place I want to let you know that I will try to keep alive you know how the South Park guys got that restaurant in Denver they bought them Rudy's is something that I know nothing about the food industry I actually quit it two weeks into my work stay. Rudy's is something that I know nothing about the food industry. I actually quit it two weeks into my work stay at Rudy's because I was sending orders down to another place,

and I thought, you know, we're all going to keep the money in the same. I guess I was deterring customers, how they described it. But I got asked out of there, we will bring Rudy's back. Well, it sounds like they've just adopted some of your practices from back in the day. What's that? Go Subway. We'll leave the sign open. Well, it sounds like they've just adopted some of your practices from back in the day. What's that? Go Subway. We'll leave the sign open. I never sent anybody to Subway.

You hear me? I sent them to another Rudy's. That was maybe closer to them. All right? It might have been further as well. But we had 100 Italian subs on the line already, dude. Don't be worried. You ain't going to get yours till lunch tomorrow, dude.

You might as well go down there. You might as well go down there. That is awesome. Oh, man is awesome well i was bummed though that sandwich was so good i hope they're not dead for real but yeah it was a great weekend a lot of shit talking rudy's is out we ate at pugliano's john pugliano came out from behind the kitchen i saw him look at us in the order we made and he uh he might have drank like four beers and then went back and was like fuck these guys we only had to eat there because rudy's was closed though so that was

kind of a problem there was a review a week ago and it was absolutely amazing so at least it was open last week yeah what are they picking and choosing days maybe let's hope it's not dead forever that place is too damn good for that if they start to go from me we're well we also saw our house that got uh yeah we stopped by and saw the house that had a tree fall on it before we got out of town. It was a nostalgia weekend, I think. Couldn't even win from the casino. It's Pittsburgh.

Too many Italians. There was a lot of Italians. You could say. Perfect amount of Italians. It was a great time. You felt welcomed. That's because he is Italian, though. Yeah, I am 0.01% Italian. I think that was my first time hanging out with that many Italians. And not one of them, I guess you kind of did talk about it,

not one of them said, hey, great to have you as an Italian now after all the things you've said about us for all those years. Really? I was not welcomed at all. Because I thought that's what we did. No matter what they did, we welcomed it. That's what DeGiulio told us last week. He was like, hey, it doesn't matter.

We're Italians. We stick together or whatever. I had wedding soup and nothing was said. Ba-ba-boo. There was none of that. Certainly no one said ba-ba-boo. They should have. Hey, they had a mascot.

Oh, John Pagliano is down there. They had a... Are these all real people? You're mentioning real names? I don't know if his name is John or not. Sounds right. Pugliano's is the name of a place. Every Italian name we have said is the name of somebody we encountered this weekend.

I think people think I'm bullshitting when I say this. It is the densest Italian community in the world. Maybe even more so than Italy nowadays. And not dense like dumb. Dense like there's a lot of them. Hand in hand for some people. Not in that particular world. We go to Pagliano's, which

took the place of Smartiarty's. Smartiarty's was moving kilos like shiny flakes out of the back of the kitchen, so they had to get shut down. That was a massive part of my childhood. What's it called? It was called smarty arties all right smarty arties it was had the best wings on earth turns out there was potentially crack in the wings that everybody said for a long time like yo this shit is so good it's like crack they had a whole operation i and i just learned this i learned a lot about a lot this weekend from going back home by the way about either updates that I haven't heard or other things I guess the FBI was investigating the plum

police and they were the ones that found out the smarty arties which is my dream wing place growing up where all the kids got sent basically as joe and I fuck I'm sending the smarty arties there was a play place cruising usa was in there wings in there. Wings, pizza, it was just, it was awesome. Just go down there. It was so good. The, I guess there was members of the Plum Police that were actively a part of this Marty Artie's drug operation. It wasn't until the FBI investigated the Plum Police.

Now this is alleged that so it was actually the Plum cops running an operation out of there where they were hanging the FBI busted it and then there was an attack. Anyways, Plum's filled with awesome, a lot of awesome. Got a chance to see that. And then there is some,

what the fuck is going on in that place? How can all of those things happen in one town continuously? I think there's a lot of those question marks happening. But yeah, John Pugliano, he came out. This guy, I don't know if he's the owner or not, but I looked around and I said, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of Italians working here, Nick. You know, we're at Pugliano's.

He's like, hey, here we go. And he goes, in the kitchen, pal. And then like right on cue, this fucking massive guy comes walking out, like 80 years old with a mustache. And I see him just look around and pours himself a drink. And he just turns and I go, is that fucking John Puglione? And he just wanders his ass back into the kitchen. And we got our food like two, three hours later or whatever.

I'm joking. Come on. We ordered everything on the menu. I mean, you know what I mean? How was it? Great. Unbelievable. I don't know if they still got the same crack and shit that Smarty already said.

I mean, it was a great weekend. We had a blast. I'm incredibly tired right now, but I'm not hungover. The body said. I mean, it was a great weekend. We had a blast. I'm incredibly tired right now, but I'm not hungover. The body feels good. AJ, how was your weekend? Did you do anything cool? I know today you're about to go save the world a little bit, right? No, I mean, my brother-in-law's annual golf outing is this afternoon,

so that's why I came on early. But no, man, normal football stuff. Brady's whole event is this weekend, so he's been in town, got to see him, got to hang out with a couple of his buds that came in town last night. It's been good. What did you guys go boozed up? You guys drink beer?

You guys drink protein shakes? Just protein shakes all day. Brady Quinn looks like a guy who would just eat two, five, six protein shakes and wake up in a minute. Give me another muscle milk. Especially at the Hawk House. You guys are all probably trying to out-alpha each other.

You got Chopper coming in there. Hey, Chop, get the fuck out of the way. I mean, is that what that is? That might be the most testosterone in the history of a home. Is General Bob Carpenter hanging out this weekend with Brady and you? Bob is not. I don't know if Bob's playing in the event today or not, but I have not seen him this weekend.

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and control this summer roman ready joining us now one of the the face of college football a man who has always been nice to us and appreciative of us, and the reason why I think I got on College Game Day a couple times to begin with. Ladies and gentlemen, he has a new book that is out now, Out of the Pocket, Football Fatherhood and College Game Day Saturdays. Ladies and gentlemen, former Ohio State quarterback, Kirk Herbst. What up, dude? My man, My man.

My man. What's up? How we doing? I'm great. How are you? You're not going to give me an O-H right out of the gate, huh? I wanted to sneak it in there just to see how we feel. I don't know if you heard.

I went to one of those cult things at AJ's house a couple weeks ago. I was in the middle of all of it, dude. I was in the middle of all of it. Dude, how many O-Hs did you drop? Hey, I had a couple cocktails, you know, I had a couple cocktails, a couple vitamins, and there was a mic just floating around. I mean, how could you not grab it? It's amazing. It is one of the best things. By the way, one of the biggest traditions in college football, which seems like the tradition might be changing a little bit across the board,

and I know you are, I mean, you've dedicated your life to college football at this point. Literally, you have dedicated your life. It's what you'll be remembered for forever, your incredible coverage. It feels like college football is about to get some big changes. Do you think the realignment conversations, and I don't know your thoughts on it.

I followed along a little bit. I assume I know your standpoint on it. But do you think that's happening because of the potential name image likeness changing and people trying to catch up with whoever and how do you kind of see it all panning out kirk first of all real quick you and i are on the field of the national championship and you were doing um kind of you're doing a pre-game deal and you were live i didn't realize and you were like i'm gonna drop we're it. And you were like, we're going to drop some weight. We're going to get serious. And I was like, yeah, let's do it.

Off season, here we go. Well, one of us took that seriously, evidently. You're looking lean and mean. Oh, okay. Herbie. Thank you. It was live, by the way. We were live simulcasting on ESPN2.

You and I. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, is it diet? Is it lifting? I mean, what the hell is going on there? Herbie, you and I. is it Friday night big time wrestling I mean what what's going on okay all of that could be included Herbie you and I you know we both come from towns I think where people enjoy eating you and I are both people that hey we see the people on Instagram and on TV that are in incredible shape and we don't fully understand how you don't eat the pizza that is available for you

right there I don't you and I both we don't understand it so i think that moment where we got to talk just moments before you had to call i don't know 100 million people watching you like before those things where i go hey you know what this off season herbie we're gonna get after it i had the intermittent fasting is what i do so i just eat for a certain amount of hours and i fast for the rest but i want to let you know herbie in, in those hours, I do get after it on a few days. So I feel like I've found my home. You're still gorging every once in a while? You're still getting after it?

Yeah, I had my brother's bachelor weekend here this past weekend. I ate a lot of ice cream. What? A lot of pizza. What? A lot of wings. What? Had a couple beers.

What? Some whiskeys. What? Had a lot of stuff this weekend, Herbie. But, yeah, I've got to get back into the fast. What are you doing? You look incredible as well, sir. I'm just trying to keep up, man.

You know, you get to my age, you're just trying to get singles and doubles. You know, we're not trying to hit home runs like you. We're just trying to get on base. On base percentage at this point is key. Yeah, each row. You know what I mean? Just trying to spray the yard a little bit. Yeah, I understand.

But to answer your question, Yeah, each row. You know what I mean? Just trying to spray the yard a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, I understand. But to answer your question, oh, man, it's like a tsunami right now. I don't know what's going on. I have no idea. We've got name, image, and likeness. We've got transfer portal. We've got Texas and OU now in the SEC. We've got everybody else scrambling to figure out what they're going to do.

I could sit here and BS and kind of tell you this is what I think is going to happen, but I think right now, I don't know if the conference commissioners know what's going to happen. It feels like that we're headed to four premier, big, huge 16-team conferences, and it feels like those four conferences maybe will pull away one day from the NCAA, go out and hire a commissioner, whoever that might be, and just kind of create their own world. That could happen. I don't think like next week, but within the next three to five years, maybe that could happen. I also don't think this playoff is going to go down. I think this playoff is, you know, they're talking about expanding it to 12 teams. After everything that happened with Texas and OU, I see this full cycle. It was a 12-year cycle that started in 14.

I think it'll go all the way through until they make a change. I just don't, there's too much going on right now for them to be able to say, hey, you know, let's change it in 2025. I just don't see that happening. I think it'll be a full entire 12 years, and then they'll make the changes. And maybe by then we'll have an idea of what's happening to these teams left in the Big 12. Where's the Big 10 going? What's the Pac-12 going to do?

The ACC? Everybody's going to respond to what the SEC has done by flexing its muscles, by bringing in Texas and OU to what they already had, by the way. Oh, Dabo with the drip. Okay. On the TikTok. Oh, Dabo with the drip.

He said, the team doesn't like it. The team has your sons on it. He said, they don't want to play more games. And then Dabo said, to be honest, I don't know if there's 12 good teams. I don't know if there's enough good teams to do what everybody's talking about. And I think getting a chance to experience the college football world with you guys and seeing the levels of college football, it feels like everybody is looking to find that SEC level.

You said that. Do you think going to four will help heighten some environments and traditions elsewhere? Or do you think some schools are just going to end up falling off and it's only going to be the big dogs to begin with, like it kind of is right now already? It's that way, but, like, I don't know about you, but I like the teams that are maybe a notch below that.

And I like for them to feel like they're playing meaningful games. You know, like, it sucks that we're just going to look after the big blue bloods in college football. We don't want to do that's not good for the game. What's also not good for the game is right now the AP poll came out and we got Bama and we got Clemson, Ohio State. It's almost like Bama, Clemson, Ohio State of the four teams. Those three are in. OK, who's the one team that's fighting for a playoff spot? How messed up is

that? So we definitely need to, whether they can win it or not, I don't know. But we need the opportunity for more teams to feel like they're involved, more teams to feel like they matter. The way it is right now, it's an unfair race, and we need to expand it to bring in more teams. And with the playoffs, by the way, beautiful point. I'm thankful that that's how you view it because you are the voice of college football because I think that's a common-sense take, by the way. I think that is very much a common-sense take. I look back to the team that I was on.

If I have a better night, if our team has a better night, we're still in it. We still have a chance. You get one loss, and you're one of these teams that isn't. Your season's over. You were running hills 530 in the morning all summer. You were doing everything. You have a great team. You have one bad night, one bad day.

If you're not one of those big schools, you're out of it forever. If you expand that, at least there's at least two at-large bids. It feels like the people can get to it if it goes to six. If it goes to eight, at least a little bit. That just feels like that makes a lot of sense. But to your point, there's a bunch going on to focus on just that. That seems like that's an impossible task. Yeah, I think so. And I think teams like right now, we've got Iowa State who's seventh in this poll that just came out. We have Cincinnati and Luke Fickle who's eighth. How great is that for college football that we have teams like that the teams that you

were on i mean and i'm not just teasing you like steve slayton pat white uh renaud i mean you guys had some freaky athletes on that team and west virginia is not a traditional blue blood but how great is it for a tcu or a west virginia to get and to be thrown in there with an opportunity to try to beat the Ohio States and the Alabamas we don't get that right now so I just don't want us to focus just on the money and how much money can we make for these big schools and these big conferences that's not going to be healthy to me for the sport we need to care and worry about some of these other like what's left of the Big 12. Imagine if you're an Iowa State fan right now, or a Kansas State fan, or a Texas Tech fan,

or a Baylor fan, Oklahoma State fan. I mean, they've been outstanding over the last 15 years. And imagine how they feel, like where are they going to go? Are they going to be left out? They got to join something, right? Are they going to hold on to the Big 12 and try to pick up a few teams like Houston? Is that going to be good enough to still be looked at as a premier conference? So while we can get excited about Texas and OU going to the SEC, that's fine. It's the rich getting richer. Let's focus on Texas Tech. Let's focus on Oklahoma State and TCU and West Virginia. These are good programs

and they need to matter and they need a place to go as far as still feeling like they're playing important football week in and week out. We're talking to Kirk Herbstreit, the voice of college football, one of the hosts of College Game Day. How long have you been there? 20 years? This will be my 26th year on game day hey you still look good dude you're talking about how i get to my age i'm just trying to hit singles and doubles i think people think you're still in your 30s you figured out a way to just stay in the same exact look every single right there hey you know saturday morning you're gonna wake up there's gonna be a blonde haired dude on the right side and he's gonna look good

and tell you everything you need to know, Herbie. It's been impressive, dude. Dude, I'm trying, man. I'm trying. At least my wife's a clean eater. You ever be around these people that are clean eaters? It rubs off on me a little bit here and there, but she does it. She's like Pollock.

That's all she does. So I try to dabble in that the best I can. Well, if it's around the house, I'll find myself, you know, at least trying it. Now, whether or not I enjoy it and go back is a whole different story, but we appreciate your time here. Let's talk about out of the pocket football fatherhood and college game day Saturdays. Did you write this? Is this your first book? And how long did this take? This had to be a grueling process, if I had to guess. Yeah, I partnered with Gene Wojciechowski, who,owski who you know gene he works on

just a great guy it's probably about one of the only people that i would have felt comfortable with in writing a book first book i've ever written um and and this is not just a football book he um he and i you know really he came up with an idea of just talking about my journey you know in life um i think it's very different than probably the perception that you just painted of the blonde-haired guy over there on the far right. Because, dude, like you and everybody else, you go through some trials and tribulations. And so for me to open up my heart, I'm an introverted guy. I don't really do that even with my family. My family is probably going to read this book and learn some stuff about me that I just don't share a lot. You know, I just hold things in. I don't know if you

know people that are that way, but that's just kind of how I've always been. So I've kind of compartmentalized a lot of painful moments that I experienced with my parents' divorce when I was eight years old and stuff that I dealt with that I just really never talked about. So this was a very different book than just, hey, let's talk about where it's fun to go to game day and all that. It's like I said, it's kind of my journey. I felt like it was important to share that. There are a lot of kids that go through divorce and some people turn to drugs. Some people go through, they have a lot of hostility and anger. I just had an emptiness. My dad was my hero, really, like for a lot of kids.

In my case, living in Ohio, he played at Ohio Stadium. He was a captain there. He coached with Woody. He would take me up when I was younger up to Ohio Stadium and put on Archie Griffin's helmet in the locker room, introduced me to Woody Hayes. These people, they were like the Superman. Here's Aquaman over here. Here's Batman. It was like, I can't believe I'm meeting these people, you know, they were like the, you know, it's like Superman. Here's Aquaman over here.

Here's Batman. I mean, it was like, I can't believe I'm meeting these people. And my dad was the reason. So my dad was my hero. And then one day I turned eight and my dad was gone. You know, he and my mom got a divorce. And after that, I moved probably eight times in nine years and didn't really do well as a new kid, kind of a really, really shy kid and didn't handle all that well. And thankfully, I didn't turn to drugs, man.

I turned to sports. That was kind of my outlet was watching sports, playing sports, just always being with my buddies. My buddies and my and sports were my outlet that kind of got me through. My buddies and sports were my outlet that kind of got me through. I got my mom remarried. I had a stepdad, stepsister, stepbrother. My dad remarried, stepmom, stepbrother. They got divorced, got remarried again.

And all along, I don't know if you know any of that, I just never told anybody how I ever felt. So in this book, I kind of tell people how I felt. So that has a lot to do with the book. Was it therapeutic in there, I bet, a little bit? Yeah. And again, because of Gene, I think it allowed me to open up and to talk about stuff that I probably wouldn't have done without him. And then, you know, we got into my playing days and I was very self-deprecating about my bat, my story at Ohio State. You know, I went in there as a five-star can't miss, going to walk in there and start for four years kind of guy. And I ran the wishbone, dude. I ran, I was a, I was a dude who's had some size, but I could run. And at Ohio State, they named, they fired Earl Bruce my

senior year in high school, waited about a month, and then they named John Cooper. I never really heard of John Cooper, but I didn't care. I was going to Ohio State regardless. And I didn't realize he ran a West Coast offense, and here I am running a wish boat. But that just shows you how blinded I was toward Ohio State. Yeah, so I didn't fit, man. Again, I talk about it in the book.

I was moved to safety and covering kickoffs and all kinds of shit, man. It was nuts. But that story and talking about a couple of coaches who were a pain in the asses and I never really told them about it. They'll read this book and they'll know that I couldn't stand them. hey i love that kirk and i think i appreciate you not only doing that for the community so we can read the book and learn from it and future kids can say hey okay even the incredibly handsome blonde old ass man over there on the far right side has been through it and i can make it you know that's that's a big deal finding and inspiration. So I appreciate you doing that. I think the reason why you don't want to probably tell anybody, including your family, is you never want to be a burden for somebody, right? You never want to be a burden, so you just kind of do your thing and you're living well. So it's like, why would I ever talk about my shit? I'm thankful that you did and plenty of other people will be. I can't wait to read it. The boys have a couple of questions for you. Is that all right? Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Absolutely. Go ahead, Ty. Kirk, you mentioned the name image likeness earlier. Do you think that the NCAA is going to put any kind of guardrails on that, or is it going to continue to just be the wild, wild west, and these kids are going to be able to make as much money as they possibly can? I think they're going to make as much money as they can. I think the guardrails are going to have to come from Congress, you know, where they're waiting to try to put a universal rule out there right now that the state of Indiana versus state of Florida versus state of Ohio versus California, everybody has their own rule

when it comes to name, image and likeness. So what Ohio State's doing versus what, you know, Notre Dame's doing is different versus what Texas might be doing. And everybody's living by their own rules within their own state. And then who's policing this? The thing that's crazy is this was not, name image like this, this is what it was not for. You're a five star. You can go to any school in the country. One weekend you go to LSU and then name image like this. Well, hey, here at LSU, we can guarantee you this. And then you go to A&M the next week. LSU said that, well, we'll give you this and then you go to a and m the next week unless you said that well we'll give you this then you go to ohio state the next week and they say well we can do this that's not what name image and likeness is is about and i'm not saying those schools are doing that but in talking to coaches that's happening yeah yeah we assume we assume so much yeah that is happening and so that's not what this is for, is to promise what could be.

It's to take an established player who's already on the roster and he's got an opportunity to make some money, then I don't think they're ever going to put a cap on. That's just the free market, and that's the new world that we live in. But it would be great if everybody were playing by the same rules. That part, I think, they're going to have to figure that out, and they're going to have to figure out a way to police it. And that's why the NCAA, they're taking a step backwards. And that's why I think eventually we're going to get to a world where these bigger conferences are going to break off

and kind of form their own world where they would have a governing body to help police things like this who can regulate the bonuses and what you can do this is like the uh the draft back whenever you know mr jaw who is currently at a golf outing with brady quinn back in columbus ohio to save some lives but when he got drafted five overall that was back when they were making more money than like 10 year vets that had been around matthew stafford signed for like 60 million he hadn't even played a single down and and then all of a sudden new cba had come in was like okay all right we gotta we gotta regulate this all the recruits are getting all the money from this thing to get into school and then you got a lot of guys you're probably like this is bullshit you know who i think is going to crack down on this herbie if you want to be the irs oh for sure oh yeah the irs is going to crack down on this, Herbie, if you want to be the IRS? Oh, for sure.

Oh, yeah. The IRS is going to be the ones that handle this whole thing. Unless you have a parent or you have somebody, these schools, it's up to these schools to kind of create an arm within their athletic department that helps these guys understand that. Man, I didn't know anything about taxes or IRA. I didn't come from money. There was no reason for me to understand that. But eventually, you start to make a little bit of money you're like okay yeah we're paying a lot of money to this guy over here but when you're when you're a college kid and all of a sudden

you sign something for 10 000 or 100 000 or whatever it is oh you better be you better have somebody teaching you about uh economics because otherwise if that's going to be you're right it's going to recalibrate there's going to be two or three or four stories that surface that everybody's going to panic about and this thing will recalibrate and we'll be in a different space in another couple years i think so too i think that's just classic business that always happens something gets rolled out abuse leads to restriction then they kind of figure it out that's kind of everything um go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Kirk.

With this whole NIL thing, do the rich just get richer? Like how are West Virginia and Texas Tech and those kind of smaller schools going to keep up with Bama and Ohio State? Hold on. Now, I have a question for this as well. Thank you for bringing that up, Connor. Because, like, University of Houston, Dana Holgerson, I got a chance to chat with him. And he's like, hey, we got some pretty cool people around this city that like the Houston football team who just maybe have oil money. There might be some other things that are happening.

Do you expect not only like how do people keep up, but do you expect some schools that maybe come from maybe like down Georgia Tech, for instance? They got like Coke and Waffle House and everybody in there. Do you think that's going to become a bigger part of this whole story? Sorry, Connor, but that led to that. Do you think that's going to become a bigger part of this whole story? Sorry, Connor, but that led to that. Do you think that's going to become something? Yeah, I think it could. I think, first of all, anytime something new like this happens, we all throw our arms up and we freak out about, oh, my God,

this is going to be crazy. I don't know how many players on these rosters are actually going to be cashing in on name, image, and likeness. You know, I thought what BYU did the other day was really cool with a built bar where they covered every kid that saw a walk-on. They were like, we're going to put everybody on scholarship. We got all you guys covered. I thought that was kind of unique.

But it's going to be the quarterback, right? It's going to be the running back. Maybe it's the field goal kicker if he's like an established guy, or it's a safety, or it's a linebacker. But it's not going to be the whole roster so if you're virginia um your quarterbacks probably the alumni there and the boosters there and the businesses that are in that community i think it may work the opposite i may be i think it can maybe help a west virginia or houston instead of getting stacked up at lsu or

a and m or some of these other places why not go De'Ara King or go be a superstar in one of these other schools where, you know, maybe it's not the same competition for name, image and likeness like it is at Alabama or Ohio State or Clemson or the powerhouses that you suggested. So you could kind of spin it until we see this, until we have evidence of something. We're all kind of spinning it one way or another, and we have to just wait to see how it comes out. But this rule broke, what, in July? It's been around now for about a month and a half. I mean, other than the Bryce Young story and the kid, Quinn Evers, who left high school a year early because they wouldn't let him cash in on name, image, and likeness, other than like a handful of individual stories. I don't know about you guys.

I'm not hearing all this craziness yet with name, image, and likeness that all these players are cashing in the way I think a lot of people expected them to do. So, again, month and a half in. Let's just kind of see how it goes over the next course of the next few months. We're talking to the voice of college football, Kirk Herbstreit, who has a book out right now called Out of the Pocket Football Fatherhood in College Game Day Saturdays.

Oh, wow. We just put the book cover up on the screen. You're talking handsome, huh? I am. Oh, my God. Look at this guy. Jeez Louise. Go ahead, Diggs.

Kirk, you talked about the AP poll being released today and how awesome it was that Iowa State's at seven, Cincy's at eight. But with Cincy, like, even if they go undefeated, do you think that the college football playoff committee will put them in against a one-loss Georgia if they have a loss in the SEC title game or something like that? I'm not just saying that because I have a Desmond Ritter 30-1 Heisman Trophy ticket, but I'm just wondering, do you think that's going to happen?

I love it. Here's my take on the small guy getting a chance to play. UCF was bouncing up and down a few years ago that they deserved a chance. What I've learned going back to the BCS years is when Kellen Moore and Boise State were out there and nobody really, Boise State, oh, that's the blue turf team. Yeah, the Blue Turf team. They took a lot of years of winning until people started to realize that they were legit. And I think it took the game against Oklahoma on a big stage in the Fiesta Bowl when they ended up having a few plays at the end of the game, Statue of Liberty to win it on a two-point play, and all of a sudden they became a cool brand.

Statue of Liberty to win it on a two-point play, and all of a sudden they became a cool brand. And what they did on the back end of that is they played teams like Virginia Tech when Virginia Tech was a top-ten team, and they beat their ass at FedEx Field. They went all the way across the country and beat a good Virginia Tech team. They also beat Georgia in the Georgia Dome. So all of a sudden, Boise State started to become a brand that people became more familiar with because they'd been around for a long time and they chopped a lot of wood. And all of a sudden, they're controlling their own destiny with like two weeks to go to get into a BCS when there's only two to get into the championship.

And they get upset on a Friday night by Colin Kaepernick in Nevada or they're in. So I think with Cincinnati and I think with the work that UCF did, has helped the Cincinnati cause. And then Cincinnati playing well last year and then getting on a big stage themselves. And even though they didn't beat Georgia, they kind of controlled that game, if you watched it. And that's the reason if you open up the AP Top 10, there's Cincinnati. So they're starting at eight. I don't think there's going to be this ceiling on Cincinnati. So they're starting at eight. I don't think there's going to be this ceiling on Cincinnati and it has everything to do with they can tip their cap to another American team and it's

the American Athletic Conference's UCF. So collectively as a league, they're showing that they can play with the big boys and it was Cincinnati starting at eight, not 18, eight. If they win games, and by the way, they're playing Notre Dame and they're playing Indiana in the non-conference. You need opportunities against teams that the media respects. I'm telling you, if Cincinnati and Luke Fickle get on a run early, they win those games against Indiana and Notre Dame, I don't think Cincinnati's going to be left out of getting into the playoffs.

I wonder if when Notre Dame decided to schedule this, they expected Luke Fibke. Oh, man. Desmond Rue. That was always our issue at West Virginia. We actually had to pick up Eastern Washington one year because one of the teams dropped out of the deal we're supposed to have because we became a good team. Because if somebody lost early, Notre Dame, two of Cincinnati, they're basically out for the rest of the year. Now, Notre Dame might power through that because they got Drew Brees on the call all year

or whatever on NBC but that's something you think Desmond Ritter and Fickle can do the you know the classic Boise State I mean what a night didn't that dude who was it? Jared Zabransky no who was the running back? Ian Johnson Ian Johnson?

dropped to a knee and asked the chick to marry him I think they did get married but congrats to them a running back? Ian Johnson? Ian Johnson? He dropped to a knee and asked the chick to marry him. I think they did get married, but congrats to them. That was a great statue of liberty play. Dude, Cincinnati's real deal. Almost their entire team

is back. And Ritter, you got 31 on him, huh? That's pretty darn good. Because the Heisman, as you guys know, the Heisman Trophy is who's, the Heisman trophy is who's the MVP on one of the top teams in the country. I mean, that's every year. That's what it is. And if Cincinnati beats...

You're polling for Cincinnati to beat Indiana, which is tough, and beat Notre Dame. And if they run through the American and they're sitting there at 8-0 and 9-0, get that ticket. But don't lose that ticket because you have a chance there. Hey, Herbie, look at you, by the way. This is a gambling talk from you.

Wow. You've been hanging out with Bear, you and Falica, having these full conversations on where good money is. Herbie, you opening into that world? Yeah. Yeah, man. I'm dabbling into that world. I'm following you and Bear's lead when you guys used to argue.

Remember the good old days when we had you on college game day? Yeah, I remember those. We're going world. I'm following you and Bears lead when you guys used to argue. Remember the good old days when we had you on College Game Day? Yeah, I remember those. What about a segment on that right now? Let's do a three-minute segment on you and College Game Day. I mean, we could get into it, Herbie. I don't know if you want to, though.

You know what I mean? Come on, man. Herbie, I loved my time with you guys. You know, I absolutely enjoyed it. I'm very thankful that you allowed me into that world. Everybody was very nice to me that worked. I kind of feel like Aaron Rodgers at the Packers, though. You know what I mean?

I enjoyed the staff. I enjoyed my teammates. There were some other people, maybe. No, no. Yeah, yeah. We can work that out. It's like Aaron Rodgers worked things yeah. We can work that out. It's like Aaron Rodgers worked things out. We can work that out.

Hey, I'm going to write a book one day, you know, much like you, and there's going to be some coaches that are going to find out that I didn't fucking like that. You know what I mean, Herbie? There's going to be something that I enjoy. I was very lucky. Here's something I'll tell you with College Game Day. So that's a show

That doing it You know it's like you're in the TV Because everybody It's an institution Like doing it is amazing And having a conversation You know because our show Monday through Friday

Moneymaker So traveling on Saturday Especially with Sunday NFL thing Like that is eating into my life Where I could be potentially napping But it's a dream To do College Game Day right So whenever we start doing it We start seeing the Like that is eating into my life where I could be potentially napping, but it's a dream to do college game day, right? So whenever we start doing it, we start seeing the effect.

Like, hey, I'm loving this. This is a good time. Now, granted, my time is getting key, key, key, key, key. That's every week that went on, by the way, from the first day to the last day. You know, those things were going down. Got a text. Barry O, President Obama sent a text through a couple people who was like, hey,

President Obama enjoyed your work on College Game Day. I told the boys, like, hey, Obama's never going to watch our daily show. They said, there are people like Obama out there that get a chance to see me on Game Day. So I'm very thankful that you guys gave me an opportunity over there. I enjoyed it. Let me tell you this.

You are beloved by our crew. We love having you and your boys come around the game day meetings and just around in general. And if it can ever be worked out, if ever I can help in any way to kind of help bridge that gap, let me know. Because we would love to have you back as a mainstay on that show if you ever want to consider that. Herbie, I love you.

We'll talk to you later. Ladies and gentlemen, get his book, The Voice of College Football, Kirk Herbst. Yeah! You know, I realized this weekend, everybody that we're going against, basically, aside from That's Good Sports and Brandon Perna, who I love, I absolutely love, there's a lot of um you forgot we got into it a little bit last week i did is that what yeah you completely forgot about it we're back on his side everybody has a shit ton of

money invested in their companies everybody i was talking to the boys back in plumb you know have no idea what we're doing and it's like uh hey do you know like are you competing against is this uh do you like uh how do you feel about that i'm like no i'm not a fan of everybody anybody that does it i'm literally a fan of because it's a lot of work i appreciate it but every company that they mentioned i was like oh they all have a lot of money back in them and it's like yeah how do you feel about that or how do you feel about them i'm like well i know we're we are getting outgunned on the back end but i feel pretty good about everything else it was just kind of fun to go through you know anytime you haven't seen somebody like 10 15 years or whatever

it's cool to kind of catch up with people did a lot that a lot of that this weekend i'm assuming aj does that every weekend at all the events he does we appreciate you joining us let's talk about this pre-season football aj justin fields massive story because for the chicago bears he bear don i think you got a guy huh is that what you're feeling we got the guy now andy dalton nagy came out and said he threw the ball six times it's a preseason game we have no idea if he did good or he did bad but justin fields took advantage of everything and every opportunity he had on the field he was more athletic than a lot of the guys he was playing against and with, which is going to happen, by the way,

I think when you're Justin Fields, an absolute freak, running when he had to. I thought he exited the pocket a little bit early on a couple different occasions, but he's probably going to be able to explain, hey, I thought I could just get the corner and run, which he could. Everybody could take advantage of that.

The fact that he did and has is unbelievable. Slung the ball around the yard the little rollout throwback is awesome in the first preseason game it's almost a guaranteed touchdown a couple different teams did it because you got defenders who don't even know the play oh my wide open but i thought justin fields was everything you could really want and more in his first appearance i wonder how andy dalton feels. AJ, your thoughts on the Ohio State legend playing in his first NFL action? Well, I mean, it definitely seems like if he continues to do this

in the next couple of preseason games, don't you feel like they will have so much pressure from the Chicago fan base and guys like Zeke to get him in the lineup as soon as they can. So this is a time, I think this year, especially with all these young rookie QBs, where the preseason actually really matters. It definitely matters for them.

We get to see a little bit of just how they carry themselves, I guess, when they're on the field. They're not the only ones, right? It's also the – and I think they've felt the field's pressure, hysteria, since the night they traded a bunch of picks to move up and get him and make him the face. Nagy said we have a plan. Andy Dalton's still our starter.

Andy Dalton says at one point i hope they cheer for me a little bit too over there he understands the whole situation justin fields though showed up and showed out in his first attempt he said again it was really slow for me is what he said which i have the utmost respect for but with also that being said like it is a preseason game let's keep that thing going i wonder if it'll be slow as well whenever the big dogs really start getting on the edges, you know, and everything like that. He has handled himself well. He said the Chicago Bears defense tests him every single day. He has that poise, the confidence, the look, everything to be like, hey, does Chicago got a fucking guy?

Andy Dalton says, not just yet, my friend. But is Justin Fields in your eyes, Zeke, and everybody else in Chicago? Like, hey, we got our fucking Ditka again. We got our fucking hero again. Is that what it is over there? Yeah, they're beating that drum. They want to start week one. But I'm on the side of let Andy Dalton kind of teach him the ropes a little more,

learn the defenses out there. But I don't know. Everyone wants Justin Fields in, though. He's going to get dropped in the deep end at some point. But I think having a veteran in front of him is huge, AJ. I honestly do. I think even off the field, watching how Andy Dalton interacts with coaches, front office, teammates, equipment managers, trainers,

I think that is a huge piece of information. I think it's gigantic. A lot of times I think a guy like if Justin Fields is watching Andy, he may not – it's like subconscious. He just sees how he interacts, how he may talk to receivers when he wants them to do like run the route a a certain way and you just pick up little things that guy like fields might remember two or three years down the road if he's having an issue and he could remember like oh i remember actually the red rocket did this to fix this problem maybe i can

hold to dial that back up so it is it is pretty valuable i think and also like trying to guess how like how would the person who's been here before act after me getting a chance to watch them in other experiences, if that makes sense. Like, I just think getting a chance to see behind closed doors how somebody acts that creates the product that everybody else sees. And we're not saying, listen, we're not saying that Andy Dalton is going to be a guy who is going to be on the Mount Rushmore of the NFL or going to be a Hall of Famer. Like, we're not saying that. What I'm saying is he's been a starter for a long time in this league. He's won a lot of games. He's been around a lot of different environments.

That Cincinnati Bengals, they don't have a practice facility. Still have to say it. But that place, that locker room also was an interesting one. AJ, you were in there. That team is much different, I think, than a lot of teams in the NFL. Andy Dalton was the quarterback there. Goes to Dallas, kind of the whole were in there. That team is much different, I think, than a lot of teams in the NFL. Andy Dalton was the quarterback there. Goes to Dallas, kind of the whole situation down there. Like, I think he just has been there, done that for a lot of situations.

And even though Justin Fields hopes to do them all better than Andy Dalton, I just think that's a massive thing, to be able to see somebody operate behind the scenes when you wouldn't normally know. Yeah, it is. But don't you think the young guy that stole the show or stole all the shine was Trey Lance and that his second throw, right, of the game?

Beautiful, what, 80-yard touchdown pass? I love Trey Lance highlights. I think those were very good. I think during the game, there were some things that obviously happened where they're like Patrick Holmes 2.0 would be a little bit too much. But it's also first fucking preseason game,

which we have to talk about because it's NFL action. But I like to see the poise, the confidence, the go. He was letting it rip. I absolutely love the fact that Trey let it go. I think he looked, you know, excited and pumped to be there. Jimmy G, though, seemed to be handling it very well. There's another tandem where it's like Trey's going to be able to watch Jimmy G operate. Jimmy G got to watch Tom Brady operate.

There's like, there's just so many things that you can learn from. But it's going to get hard for all these teams if they don't have success early, not to pull the trigger on the player behind. Now, the one place that has a young quarterback that performed well this weekend that I don't think they'll pull the trigger on if things don't go well early, Jordan Love looked great. His numbers looked huge, looked like he did fantastic. And if you go through the preseason week one notable quarterback performances of young players, obviously Drew Locke dominated, okay? And by that, I mean he had seven attempts and he completed five of them. All right, so if you want to call that dominating quarterback,

and what he was able to do, he did. Long touchdown, great pass, swag look there. Everybody's talking about how, hey, Drew Locke is still getting an opportunity to put this franchise on his back. They bring in Teddy Bridgewater. Now we got a chance to see him compete with a guy who has won in the NFL. Excited to see what Drew Locke does. But right next to him, Drew Locke, 153.3 passer rating in his preseason debut with the Broncos in 2021.

Jordan Love, passer rating 110.4 through one touchdown. 12 of 17. LaFleur let him eat a little bit out there. That offense is a good offense Jordan Love got to watch Aaron for an entire MVP year and much like we're talking about with Justin Fields and Andy Dalton that type of stuff is massive as a player and for your confidence you had to be pumped about Jordan Love looking good out there Ty right like hey listen to Peter King read Peter King this morning nobody Nobody knows what's going to happen in 2022.

That's what Peter said. He doesn't think Aaron knows, doesn't think French knows. Nobody knows. You know who I know? Jordan Love, second highest passer rating after week one of the preseason here. How do you feel about it? What do you think? What do you think about it? Yeah, he did look good.

I also like seeing Jay Sternberger. He had a couple, I think he had like 60-some yards. He was the one who caught the ball down the seam, and he's going to be more included in the offense this year. year love did look good i mean but he also stripped sack fumble he got hurt so and they said he might not practice this whole week so that kind of i didn't know that yeah he got taken out of the game so that kind of worries you a little bit i mean you know first game action and he gets bounced out they did say that he played through it a little bit so you know they were impressed by his toughness and stuff like that but uh outside say that he played through it a little bit, so they were impressed by his toughness and stuff like that.

But outside of that, he looked pretty good. Okay, so I did not know he got hurt. Yeah. Uh-oh. They said it's nothing crazy, you know. Yeah, but those injuries, and I'm not saying Jordan has one or anything like that, but that is scary to think about. As a fan, it seems as if thearon and packer situation isn't over like it just seems

like in that uh football morning in america with uh peter king he sat down with aaron for 17 minutes minutes on a shaded bench across the street from lambeau field something like that that's that set the tone or whatever you know what i mean and? And they had a 17-minute conversation, and Aaron was talking about, you know, Zen, and he got a chance to really learn more about how Aaron's feeling and his mindset on everything. First of all, let's talk about it. He said he – Pete said that a confidant told him that he was about 50-50 on retirement this offseason.

And in the article, which I did not know, Peter King works for Florio? Is that what happens? I mean, that's what it kind of seems like. It's under the banner of pro football talk. Or is that just an NBC entire thing? I did not know Peter King was on pro football talk. To be clear, I've never read a book. I'm not a big reader. Columns aren't my thing. I'd rather hear what they had to say or whatever. I understand Peter King's a very talented writer. And like I said, with the shaded bench thing, it was a good tone setter there earlier or whatever. I understand Peter King's a very talented writer. And like I said, with the shaded bench thing, it was a good tone setter there earlier or whatever. I did not know he was pro football talk though.

50-50 on retirement was the big thing. And then going into last season, he knew it was potentially going to be his last one or it was going to be as he viewed it as his last one. And then the relationship has a lot of room to grow. And he complimented with Gunther Kusumurfi. And then he said, those relationships are for another day. Right now it's all the football people whom I love or whatever.

Is that an accurate depiction on how he feels? I don't really get a chance to chat with him. And was he going to really 50-50 retire like the Peter King football morning in America thing? Did Aaron say he was 50-50 on retiring? No, no, no, no, no. This was a confidant told Peter, which, by the way, was one of the things of the whole column, though, and it didn't come from Aaron.

That's because you said there's no way that's retiring is what you said. And he's never told me that. I've never asked him. He's never told me that. I just say that from being around the dude saying, I just cannot imagine he could walk away from football right now and be happy. Yeah, but maybe whenever you're around, because I get this feeling around you that is super football guy i'm not even gonna listen to the fact that i'm not gonna play football anymore that's true no what if aaron wasn't comfortable enough to tell you he was thinking

about jeopardy because he thought you were gonna call him a nerd or something whoa what if that's what's coming yep that's that seems like me the The retirement thing, though, it seems like every new thing that comes out about Aaron, the retirement thing, and I just go back to you every single time, and you're like, you think that guy is going to want to not have the ability to compete with people anymore? It's just fascinating because maybe we'll continue to learn about how and why and what the cell was. We'll have to ask him when he starts coming back on on Tuesdays. But, yeah, I mean, maybe I'm sure it did cross his mind. He did say that, right, that it crossed his mind or he thought about it.

And I'm sure he thought about it. And he said, yeah, right, you kidding me? I just won the MVP. I have a team around me. If I go back to Green Bay, they bring Randall back. Hey, let's go win another Super Bowl. Shaley, throw me that Pedialyte bottle real quick. Right now. back, hey, let's go win another Super Bowl. Shaley, throw me that Pedialyte bottle real quick. He just fucking looked at a trash can

over in Hawaii on the other side of a waterfall. I'm not fucking kidding. Go on back. Yeah. Probably. What if he had a moment where he's like, alright, if I miss this, I'm retired. Yeah, do or die. If I make this,

I'm coming back. And it's him on top of a waterfall. You know, you got Mai if I miss this, I'm retired. Yeah, do or die. If I make this, I'm coming back. And it's him on top of a waterfall. You know, you got Mai Tai sitting right behind you. Of course. You know,

they're playing a little music back there. Got a little ice on Mai Tai's face. He got jumped in the diner or whatever, that whole thing. And he's just sitting there

and he's like, all right, if this fucking goes in that trash can down there, I'll play. If not, I'm not. Boom,

hits. And he's like, we're back. I'll play. If not, I'm not. Boom! Hits and he's like, we're back. I gotta go. That would be awesome. Then he holds his nose on the way down. Does he? I sure as hell hope not.

I thought that would have been a friendship ender for you and him right there if you did that. Peter King alluded to how he doesn't think after his conversations in the building that either side knows what the future looks like and i think you've been talking about that for a while right like who knows how the hell this whole thing ends up seems pretty accurate i think what peter says for me at least feels pretty accurate you're right like why and it's what he said what aaron said to him i guess makes sense

like hey this is i'm trying to go win a ring right now. We don't I'm not sitting here trying to patch up relationships behind the scenes. I'm sure that could definitely happen organically and naturally throughout the season. But like we're not setting time aside to try to work that out right now. LaFleur had Aaron break down the huddle at the end of the first practice. And LaFleur said, I'm not going to tell you, Peter, what he said, but you can ask him that question. And then he asked Aaron and Aaron talked about how, you know, just basically how much he was thankful to be back, excited to be back and how much being in the moment is a, is a big deal. And it was like a

motivational speech. I bet in a conversation that he thought about a lot as he was going back into training camp and that type of information is just, it's, I bet he was really cool for the rest of the team to be like, Oh, that's why he's fucking Aaron Rodgers. All right, here we go. Let's go. And the thought of him saying, if you want to find something to make you happy, you're probably going to be able to do that. If you want to find something to get mad about, you're probably going to be able to do that as well. It was very, I think this, I think a lot of people are learning that Aaron's a much deeper thinker than originally thought about him and it seems like every writer

or interview person that comes away is like he's actually pretty intelligent thoughtful, funny charming, seems to like his life who are you imitating? oh man, this video

is right up your alley do you really not know or is this an AJ talk? I have no clue what you're talking about. Oh, we got to send it to you. Yeah, you'll love it. We watched it probably. All you need to know is it involves a wrestling thing. It's a wrestling thing.

And it's a behind-the-scenes story. It involves an impersonation. Yeah. You're going to love it. You're going to love it. You are going to love it. I can't wait. I see Connor's excitement. I think I am going to like it.

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Losing day on Sunday. Friday night was good. Saturday, even Steven. But we'll be back. And what do you got today? What are you guys hammering today? Baseball. Baseball.

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They have been terrible probably for the ratings of people watching these games. But for you, as a noted under better, this is like 6 to midnight, huh, every single time you turn on a game? Yeah, the only game that really went over on Saturday was the Vikings. If that stays under, I've had a $5 parlay to win 10K. That didn't hit. But a lot of people, for some reason, left that Vikings game out, and they won a lot of money this weekend.

So the thing about the $5 for 10K thing, that sounds amazing. But did you hear about the $3 for $1 million? What? Excuse me? Yeah, Bleacher Report, which has that trash-ass account, Bleacher Report Grid on it. Uh-huh, sure. Wait, am I past it?

Am I over them? No, no, no. Nah. We didn't get by that? There's multiple times. There's no way. You kind of buried the hatchet, but definitely left some room

where if you did want to rip it out of the dirt, you could have. Okay, so the... Don't put out stupid stuff. Well, there's a lot of people putting out stupid stuff now. Mm-hmm. Did you... Is that the game now? there's a lot of people putting out stupid stuff now. Did you set the game now? There was a lot of like hall of fame question mark tweets this weekend after

quarterbacks through like their first pass their career. Yeah. And people are coming after me for saying like, Hey, I don't think Matt, Matt Jones is going to stink. And they're reacting how you probably reacted to that tweet. Cause I have seen a lot of those out there and I see why you get excited, but it seems like a lot of people are just putting out shit right now.

What was that one we looked at this morning? I think it was on Pro Football Focus. They gave a stat, a score, and then the bottom question was, Who's QB? It was Jameis and Taysom Hill, which from what I've heard, by the way, I didn't get to watch the full game, only the highlights. Both neither did great, right? No. So Jame heard, by the way, I didn't get to watch the full game, only the highlights. Both, neither did great, right? No. No. No one separated.

So Jameis Taysom, one preseason game here. Who should be the QB? One. Which I like good conversation starter. Like, that is absolutely awesome. But I think people are turning to pro football focus to tell us who they fucking think should be. You know what I mean?

Correct me if I'm wrong. Hey, pro football focus, let us be the idiots that are asking, like, hey, a dumb question. You guys are supposed to be the ones that are, like, the authority on stuff. Right. And we did the analytics on passes from seven to nine yards, which were 90% of Sean Payton's offense last year. And Taysom went four for four in those passes.

Jameis went one of six look for that that's what we're looking I thought we've kind of diverted from that a little bit but I like the pro football focus is asking the question who's going to start out there Jameis or Taysom because we've been wondering the same damn thing first preseason game you can't judge much you just got to try to get a read on who seems to be more comfortable with the team who does the team seem to like more where is the comfort level the does the team seem to like more? Where is the comfort level, the confidence, the poise? That's what I was talking about with Mack Jones because I think your teammates,

the teammates of these players are going to tell you all you need to know about the player. That's why the mic'd up things for me are so important. And I think that's why that Herbert one, I am still thinking about to this day because I watched that and I didn't get a chance to see him with a lot of his teammates. The only interaction was at the end for a call-up, and it was very quick.

It was nothing. There wasn't any real. So I just want to see how their teammates treat him. It seems like Justin's beloved. The fact that Nagy called that play, roll out, throw back, he knew it was going to be a touchdown, set that up for Justin. Justin hits it, by the way. You hear a lot of times, hey, that's the hardest ball to throw or whatever.

The fields look confident, poised in every situation. For Taysom and Jameis, I didn't get to watch. Either one of them looked like they were hey, this is my team, commanding. Did any teammates act that way? Did any of us see that game? I didn't see a lot of it, but from the stuff that I saw, because it was on Saturday night and there was a bunch of games on at that

time, Taysom threw an interception. You couldn't tell if it was on the wide receiver if he stopped or if it was on Taysom. Orlovsky told me a wide receiver did. Oh, okay. It did seem that way. Well, it is what Orlovsky told me. Oh, okay.

Gospel. Well, I mean, Orlovsky's going to say that every single time. Just like if you ask me, hey, what happened with that punt? Well, the fucking wind was. My guy, I mean, he had no shot there. You know what I mean? You've got to do it for was... My guy, I mean, he had no shot there. You know what I mean? You got to do it for your position.

But in first preseason game, you never know. That's why... I mean, what if Taysom doesn't even know yet that an out to whoever he's throwing to should be about two and a half yards further because that's where his route goes to. I mean, there's just so much time still. So it's so hard to get these types of judges. That's why my big thing is,

how's everybody else fucking reacting to this guy? that's why my big thing is how's everybody else fucking reacting to this guy let's just start judging that a little bit who because the team is gonna they're gonna vote whether it's publicly privately the team is gonna have an idea of who should be doing what as well now you're told oh you just got to trust it we'll make the right decision for the team but the locker room is going to decide some things, and I think that's a big deal. That's why when you see Jimmy G celebrating a Trey Lance tug, like, that's big. Like, I think that's really cool, you know.

By the way, that was another rollout throwback. So that's a guaranteed touchdown in the first preseason game. I mean, it happened in the playoffs even. There was a little bit of misdirection with Jameis just throws one. I mean, that is running any sort of misdirection at a calculated level against the twos or threes in a preseason game is, hey, I'm trying to score a touchdown here, and can you make it happen? But I think that is the biggest thing we should be looking for here

in the next week or so. How is everybody reacting to the guy? Is it telling that Taysom got the nod in game one? Well, I think that means that that four-year $160 million deal, all-years voidable deal, it did tell us accurately at the time that Sean Payton is going to give him an actual chance to be the quarterback. And the reason why they do that voidable year, as we were smartened up at a later time, is once he signs that deal,

if they're to renegotiate a deal within the next year or something, the max that that deal could be worth is $40 million per year. So if he does become their starter and they do have a renegotiation within the next year, 18 months, whatever it is, they can negotiate all the way up to $35 million a year if they want. So he can be compensated fairly if he's a starting quarterback for the New Orleans Saints. He said he thought he was his what? Steve Young? Yeah. He's my Steve Young. Last year he thought he was his what? Steve Young? Yeah. Yep.

He's my Steve Young. Last year, he got a chance to prove it in play. He did. They won. Didn't look fantastic in all those games, but maybe now because they're going to be forced to, I think, with the way the roster has been set up after the salary cap destruction that happened after this last year, I think they're going to be a much more diverse type offense with Taysom running

if they're looking to go that way. Because if you weren't, why wouldn't you just go with another pocket passer who seems to be pretty similar in the pocket as Taysom Hill or even better maybe. Do we know his contract? Let's say he ends up not being the quarterback. That only applies to him playing quarterback, right? It's not if they keep him and he plays tight end. So it's a renegotiation, yeah. So whatever he's making this year, let's say it's 15 or whatever it is the actual money is 15 16

13 i forget exactly what it is he's playing either quarterback or tight end running back special team he's playing tasem hill position at that fee if he plays quarterback though and starts all season they do well i assume tasem's people wanted a chance to renegotiate for a quarterback salary if he becomes your guy. Cordell Stewart, I think he was signed on as like our third wide receiver maybe or something like that. Second wide receiver was his contract. Then he ended up starting, becoming our star quarterback.

There are situations in the past that have been a blueprint for this type of thing, but I think Taysom's representation or Taysom himself was like like what if i become a guy at quarterback which i'm training to do we got to be able to renegotiate to give me a fair price as opposed to what a tight end price is a gadget price is so i think that is why it was put in there although we were all very alarmed when we heard four year 160 million all years voidable that's not a contract right contracts aren't supposed to just have every part of it voidable but they did it because of that whole nfl stipulation if you can't up the price until 18 months or whatever down the road i wonder if there's no michael thomas too like do you really want to have a guy like jamis who's more of a pocket passer where you can go with

tasem who can maybe make a couple plays outside the pocket you know what i'm saying versus jimmy who might just say ah fuck, I'll just throw it deep to somebody who's not Michael Thomas. No, Jameis went to the Harvard of quarterback school last year with Drew Brees and Sean Payton. He's not just saying fuck it anymore, mostly because when he was just saying, ah, fuck it, he didn't know who was Donner. His team, the other team.

No, blind. True. He's blind. Yeah, need LASIK. Led the NFL in yards and interceptions. Blind in the NFL. Signs a $1 million deal or whatever with New Orleans. Gets LASIK.

Gets a chance to go to Harvard. He might make much better decisions with the ball. And I think you can't turn over the ball. If you're a known turnover. I don't want to say this because I haven't been over the ball. If you're a known turnover, every, I don't want to say this, because I haven't been in every building, but with every person I've talked to, you walk in, there's, you know, and I heard the, there's a mount, what's that mountain that's a volcano that had two rocks on top of it that was a list of rules for the.

Sinai? Mount Sinai at the top, okay. You walk up to, old buddy walked up to Mount Sinai and there was two things up there there was one with your relationship with God and then there was one that was your relationship with the other people

here's the rules I think every time you walk into a facility it's like that one person walking up Mount Sinai and finding that thing there was two things there there's normally just one thing rock rock, or it's etched in stone. And it's, hey, protect the fucking ball.

All right? The ball is the program. The ball is our building. The ball is this. The ball is that. That's why when Jameis was keeping both teams in every single game for a long period of time, during his contract year, a lot of people us included were saying it's going to be hard to give that guy a hundred million dollars which is what everybody's given when he

is so careless with the ball careless with the ball in every building you walk into it's like hey if we don't have the ball get the ball if we have the ball keep the ball that is the mount sinai rock hey if we have the ball here's the rules if we have the ball, here's the rules. If we have the ball, okay, here's one. We're going to keep the ball. Here's another rule over here, this one. If you don't have the ball, here's rule number one. Fucking get the ball. Okay? Whether that's turnover on downs, turnover

in general, whatever it is, that is it. So whenever he was just turning the ball over at a rapid rate, we knew it was going to be tough for an organization to just give him an opportunity like, hey, here's the keys to our franchise. You know, and brady just so happened to come in at the same time free agency and bruce aarons was like well fuck we don't even really have to do much if we fucking bring that guy in yeah yeah 30 other teams didn't want to do this no well i'll fucking bring him we're gonna golf a little bit earlier every day too you know why because we got fucking tom

brady at quarterback but i think that is something where if Jameis isn't a turnover god okay which he became down there in Tampa I think his potential is absolutely absurd but if you talk to a lot of people that type of play I don't think people can say can change well what if he was blind though like that is that's an actual question like what if he was blind what if Jameis got rid of all the bad that a lot of people talked about whenever he decided, you know what, I'd like to fucking see. And that's crazy to think about at the NFL level, but it's real. Or if he was just like, also he was blind, but also like, oh, fuck, if I continue to do this, I'm never going to play in this league again.

Yeah, that had to happen. That was probably happening when he was doing the whole, throwing in the basketball hoop. I saw him and King Ryan Garcia doing a drill. Yeah, Ryan was actually hitting that thing, and then Jameis was putting his face in in front of him, just testing his reactions. His reflexes.

No stone unturned for Jameis. No. Works hard. Always working, it seems. What he's doing might seem to be a little bit ridiculous. I think it's because he gets so bored because he does so fucking much. I think he does things so much that at some point his trainer's like, all right, we've got to switch this up a little bit.

You stand on that Bosa ball, and then we're going to throw cards up, and you've got to tell us what that card is. Seven of diamonds. Seven of diamonds. Hearts. Eight of clubs. Jack Spence. Oh, it was clubs. Fucking 20 push-ups, dude. He wants it bad. Hearts. Eight of clubs. Jack Spence. Oh! It was clubs.

Fucking 20 push-ups, dude. He wants it bad. And it's like, well, it's a shame he doesn't have Michael Thomas. Because that's a game changer. But it seems like he's out, huh? Even though Michael and Sean had a sit-down, they said relationships are going good. Why are you shaking your head? Is that because you want the Patriots to bring him in? Is this from, from uh hey the Patriots need a Michael Thomas or do you think Michael Thomas and Sean

are kind of on the out still no he was on the sideline he's fine but I mean I want every team to suck except for the Patriots so whatever happens with the Saints sure who cares can we can we what can we say aside from no you want everybody but the Patriots to suck unless the Patriots aren't in anymore, right? Sure, yeah. If the Patriots aren't in, then I just want everyone to lose in the most painful way possible. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, for the Colts.

You know, if the Patriots stink, the Colts better go 2-15 or else that'll be even worse for me. Okay, so let's talk about the Colts. Sure. Headline this morning when I walked in and read the TV Eason and Ellinger solid yeah very solid that was the word solid in their debut thank you for the uh solid judge that was what they said and I understand that solid's probably good news that is not nothing bad and I got see, I was streaming the game, literally trying to catch some of it,

because I wanted to see what you can't see on these highlights is how is everybody reacting to the different quarterbacks. I think they both had good command, I think, of the team. I think they looked confident. Eason's got a live arm. He does have a live arm. Hey, Eason's got a live arm. Oh, yeah.

And that number one on Paris Campbell looks real good running about a 4-2. It didn't used to do that. Okay, that number one for the Colts used to run about, depending upon where, anywhere from a 6-5 to 7-1. If it needs a little trot, down to a 4-something. You know, whatever it needed. 4-whatever it needed to be to potentially trap somebody on a sideline and get in there or maybe just get absolutely deboned.

He looked unbelievable, which is good news because if he can get going, T.Y. can get going. Jonathan Taylor's in the backfield alongside. Wilkins got in his own. He seems to score a lot. He gets hurt, though, I think. And Marlon Mack, I mean, that team looks like they're ready to go. Would love Carson Wentz in there.

But I think Eason and Ellinger did do a solid job at filling the role. Yeah, I think so, too. Ellinger had an absolute diamond, like double coverage, too, put it right into the bucket. Game-winning drive, too. Yeah, game-winning drive. Okay. That was Zach Kiefer of The Athletic.

He said one NFL game for Sam Ellinger, one game-winning drive for Sam Ellinger. Let the legend begin. I'm like, that's a good headline. Hey, it was a tweet, but that's a good headline right there, Zach. But watching that game from the other side, P.J. Walker looks really good for Carolina. I know they probably won't, but I think there should be a quarterback battle between him and Darnold.

Again, it's preseason and everything, but I think he had a start last year. He looked pretty good. He's a talent. Just like Justin Fields, in these preseason and everything but i think he had a start last year he looked pretty good like he's he's talent just like justin fields okay in these preseason games if you're in a good thrower of the ball great thrower of the ball and you can move you're the most athletic person you can make the most of it i'm not saying that pj didn't absolutely throw some dimes but regular season game not that the starters weren't in for colts but regular season game i not that the starters weren't in for Colts, but regular season game, I think the common narrative is, oh, you won't be able to outrun the 4'4 running 270-pound DN

that is out there or whatever it is. So I think in a preseason game, whenever we see Justin Fields dominate and we see PJ do very well, it's hard for me to get as excited as I want to because it's like, okay, what happens when the other lambos and ferraris are on the field as well because it's a much different thing but anytime i see pj on the field it feels like he makes a fucking play doesn't it feels like pj's making plays all the time xfl he was unbelievable now there was a lot of love obviously for uh jordan tayamu as well out there for the st louis battle hawks he was a great player but I loved watching him in the XFL.

He was with the Colts. I got to meet him. He's a super cool guy. He does throw the ball very nicely as well. Yeah, I was going to say, I didn't see – I mean, I didn't watch the whole game. I just saw some of the highlights. But his arm is what I was – Live arm.

He was throwing fucking bullets. And, I mean, obviously, you know, he's quick and everything. But I don't know. You look at Darnold and it's like this know he he's he's quick and everything but i don't know i just you look at darnold and it's like this guy he's always got it he's had a chip on his shoulder for the last couple years he did start a little bit like i mean again it's preseason it doesn't matter but i was very impressed by him i would have a much better take on that team if what was going to happen yeah it actually does happen true did it uh it worry you that we finally got to see the Taunton flag in action for the Colts-Panthers game or what?

I was going to get to a break. I was starting to get some energy. Things are starting to feel good. Okay, I was going to talk about it. Then my guy Ben LeMay out of the University of Charlotte, which you've heard of, obviously. Football powerhouse.

People make, they call it the NFL pipeline, the University of Charlotte, you know? When you go to school there, you automatically assume, you know what, I'm being a fucking NFL because that's what everybody does. Hell yeah. You know, this guy didn't have to basically just prove everybody wrong in his entire history, right? Not Benny.

LeMay. No, he didn't have to just absolutely prove everybody wrong throughout his entire existence. And here in his first ever NFL game, live action, live game, getting film out now, not only for my team and the team we're playing against, but the other 30 teams that could potentially be watching. I could maybe make my entire dream come true, my family's dream come true. All the hard work throughout my entire life, whether it was driving me to practice, to go to work, the coaches that invested hours in me, everything I have done to get to this point. I got a whole town, a community, a family, a tribe of people watching me potentially live out my dreams that we all thought was going to happen.

And when I get to rock, I get a chance to carry eight motherfuckers that are playing for a team that is in the city that I went to college in. I carry eight people, have the biggest moment of my football career, maybe make a team. If not with the coach somewhere else, hey, that guy's got juice, let's do it. Change the entire direction in the course of my family's life. I can't be excited, though. though no don't even think about fucking dare are you kidding me are you all that just happened and everything i just said there and more is potentially happening in that one play don't even fucking think get your fucking ass back in the huddle you know barry sanders hey, Barry Sanders, he'd score a touchdown, and he would just hand it to the ref, and then he was gone.

Why don't I? Well, Barry Sanders also won the Heisman, right? Yeah. It was also like the all-time leading scorer in this whole thing. Barry Sanders was unbelievable, worked his ass off. Let's not get crazy. And Barry Sanders had the ability to act like he had been there before because Barry Sanders, by the way, had fucking been there before.

And maybe Barry Sanders, the way he goes about business isn't how everybody goes about business maybe there's a lot of different stories a lot of different situations a lot of different life events that lead to somebody acting differently than somebody that just acted you know almost robotic while being one of the most exciting and electric players in the history got nothing but love for barry sanders let's not get crazy but there's a lot of people tweeting act like you've been there before it's like you think this motherfucker's been there before this dude just carried eight people and maybe changed the entire life he can't be excited aren't we a game of emotion aren't we a game of excitement why is this a fucking penalty hey get down hey eat your m&ms sitting on the chair, being cool.

You became my commissioner. You weren't. You weren't my commissioner. When, hey, you dance, you're fucking out. You're sock slide, you're fucking out. We don't want anything. We want robots, no emotion. Everybody hated you then, Rog.

All right, everybody hated you. And nobody understood why you're trying to take the fun out of the game. You're doing it because you want to be able to just pluck and play. You didn't want to have to have players be brand names because then you could replace them easily. Okay, I understand the business side of it, but we all agreed. The tribe has spoken that the game's better when people are excited. Some things are too much. All right, some things are way too much.

There were some dances that happened that looked a little bit more like basketball where we're all like, there's no way that can happen with a full line. We get it, there was some. But it added to the game. The excitement added to everything. Now taking away this and making it a point of emphasis.

And I'm not saying that there should be egregious, if something egregious happens, they should penalize them. Yes, please, it's not for the good of our game, not for the good ofious happens, they should penalize them. Yes, please. It's not for the good of our game, not for the good of the league, not good for fans, not good for anybody. I understand that's going to happen,

but a point of emphasis means, hey, we're cracking down on this because we don't want it to happen anymore. And why are we targeting that as opposed to targeting something else? I'll never understand. My commissioner, Roger Goodell, is going to get to the bottom of this

if Sam Ocho doesn't do it first yeah come on Sam Sam Ocho told me on get up this morning he's still part of the players committee he's going to change this thing around I appreciate the Ocho family

doing that for all of us thank you Sancho thank you Sancho because the overwhelming like hey this rule fucking stinks from everybody do you think there is a real chance

that they'll get rid of it before the season no that is not the way once something gets in there i think it is normally at least a year because even if you start telling them they have a lot of what i think we all have them if you tell me if you tell me yeah there's a good chance like if everybody's telling me there's a good chance it's like i don't think so okay i'm not fucking doing that good all right on my time you know yeah on my uh that's kind of how the NFL.

Yeah. That's why the XFL thing didn't have to happen until, you know, the review system didn't have to happen until blah, blah, blah. The sky cam, you know,

that came in from blah, blah, blah. The rules that they initiate always come in down. Hey, on our time, on our time, it's our league.

Let's not let these motherfuckers outside run our league is probably what is being said, but boy, it'd be great if they did just open up, you know, they probably still use the old school like projector if somebody could just put a slide in there of a couple twitter feeds of what people are saying about this maybe that would make the league a little bit better but they have so much to worry about which i understand it's not easy running a league the biggest league the greatest league earth. But why is this what we are trying to focus in on?

Major League Baseball, who has the worst commissioner in the history of sports, actually called the trophy that all the teams in the league that he commissions the piece of metal or something like that. He's embracing like, hey, sports are allowed to be fun. It doesn't have to be surgery. It doesn't have to be curing some disease. It's allowed to be a celebration. Rob Manfred is acknowledging that.

And somehow, as soon as Walt gets in there, his first act is, nobody's happy on our fucking field. That whole life that just changed for Benny. LeMay. Don't want to hear about it, pal. Get your ass back into the huddle Because we got a referee here

Who is looking to be I mean He was ready That's quick draw McGraw That son of a bitch would have killed Hamilton If they had a duel way back in the day Like Aaron Burr did That son of a bitch was quick on that

He was ready to call a whistle blowing It was unbelievable Respect your opponent That's not disrespecting your opponent That son of a bitch was quick on that. He was ready to call it. Whistle blowing. It was unbelievable. There's a lot of people. Well, you respect your opponent. That's not disrespecting your opponent. And you would think the refs would hate this, too, because it's going to make them look like complete assholes.

The refs, okay, they have a hard job. They have a hard job, terrible job. Nobody's going to a game to cheer for the ref. The only time they get cheered for is when you fuck somebody over and they help somebody up uh somebody else out and by the way they're going to turn on you too if you fuck them over there's no real you know and the fact that they have just basic ass human eyes you know basic ass human eyes yeah now these are pretty cool i got mine lasik as well so they're better than what they once were like jamis winston but having basic human eyes verse we've all seen the camera of the drunks in phoenix in the nba and everything like that

and roman reigns on friday night smackdown 8 p.m there's an 8k camera okay that i don't know all the science behind it but does that mean it's 8 000 frames per something is that what that means i believe it's the pixels whatever the case basic ass can't do what these cameras can do can't slow things down to a time so they're trying to get rid of review it's like well you're setting your refs up for fucking failure because technology is continuing to grow and that's what the whole world is seeing even the people in the stadium who are watching the replays they all seen technology slow things down and the ability to fix that would be smart and they are adding that this year but the refs know that they're up against it

every time they walk out there yeah well we're not really allowed to use anything that the rest of the world uses but let's have a fucking good day oh that's a bazillion dollar business we could ruin it all completely this entire game could change because of one of us but hey let's fucking go out there and do it refs are no fun that is not a fun job at all but to sell hey no fun allowed is being enforced by the fun police via their fun sucking lords uh-huh that is not a good place to be in any of those things especially when it's like do we not does their life not suck enough already can we not have some fun why are we getting rid of that i don don't know. That was frustrating, but thanks for bringing that up. Hey, anytime. Anytime. You've got to talk about it.

This is going to probably go on for the next six months, if I had to guess. Because the point of emphasis, it's been my problem with it the entire time. Point of emphasis means this is going to get called. And if it doesn't get called, said ref is going to be talked to. Because, hey, this is the point of emphasis.

We're trying to change this. It's like, because hey this is point of emphasis we're trying to change this it's like why is this a point of emphasis how come we can't focus on changing rules you know that don't potentially put somebody's life at risk as well this whole chopping outside the tight end thing on either side is going to change football it's going to change football completely now pulling offensive linemen on a run outside whether it's a pitch outside or whatever who used to have to try to square up a corner and move a corner in the corner would normally just fall and go low they try to chop offensive linemen will lay on top of them hey that's a good block how you doing thanks for moving at 350 pounds getting in front of this corner you set up this team in beautiful fashion now corners aren't allowed to

go low at all so we're going to see a lot of business decisions from corners just go ahead and move. There's going to be a lot of decisions that go like that because this is 360 versus 170 moving in 350, moving at 170 full speed. And because of the no cut, which makes sense, by the way, it makes sense on why in theory it makes a lot of sense. But what about the backs and brains of these corners that are about to have to square up? A pooling offensive lineman, who, by the way,

I have the utmost respect for offensive linemen, but offensive linemen also think like, hey, if somebody's going to die, it ain't going to be me. It's going to be you. Now they have no fear at all. There's going to be some collisions. We are going to see some, or we're going to see a lot of corners making business decisions, and people are going to attack them for it. It's like, well, what. We are going to see some, or we're going to see a lot of corners making like business decisions

and people are going to attack them for it. It's like, well, what do you want them to do? You want them to, oh, you want them to square up the train. Okay, you want them, you want them to just square up their Fiat right into an actual train. That's what you want them to do.

There's always fallout to these rules. There's always fallout. I know they're trying to make it safer, but that one, there should be some sort of clause where it's like maybe above the thought, like maybe, you know what I mean? There's somehow,

but you can't whenever you talk about lawsuits and injuries and everything like that. It's saving O'Lyman's knees, but it's going to kill a defensive back. Dead. It's going to kill someone. I can't wait for the corner who is already pissed and just says, fuck. And they're just going to dive like Tebow did for that one goal.

They're just going to dive, try to go straight. And we are going to see some hilarious collisions out there, I think. Because it is. I mean, corners, you know, back in the day, I think if a corner tackled, it was a big deal. Now, basically every corner is going to get in there. There is, I don't know if there's a lot of room to be somebody that's not going to make a tackle. Now there's business decisions being made by a lot of people out there to live and see another day. And Hey, my athleticism keeping up with their best athletes is a lot more important

than me potentially throwing my shoulder into this guy when he's going to gain an extra yard as opposed to not. So there's a lot of, you know, I think risk management that happens in the secondary positions when it comes to things. And it used to be a big knock, like, oh, that guy won't hit anybody. I think everybody now will get involved in a tackle. They'll wrong arm, outside shoulder, they'll do something because I think the way the game is now, a lot faster as opposed to just the bruisers in there. This is going to change it though there's going to be a lot of guys that don't look great in the corner position there's nothing they can do about it i was going to say but they they so like

they don't go to like uh cornerbacks or anything like that and just like because you'd think some of those guys would be okay if you do this like this is going to completely change how some of us play like you're either going to get one of us killed or we're just like we're just dead when we're outside of the hashes here well did they ask clay matthews you know about the strike zone and yeah how you land on quarterback they should have did they ask you know what i mean did they ask linebackers about people coming across the middle where what you're allowed when you're allowed to no they don't they don't i mean remember the rules though, is a group of people who are supposed to be incredibly high football IQ people thinking out for the game.

But while also looking out for the best interests of not only the league, but the future of the game. And I guess some things have to happen. This one feels like they're setting up some corners to look very bad. And wait until, just like we talked about last week with something, some loophole. Wait until you hear how Bill Belichick uses it. The tossing was last week. Yeah, wait until Bill Belichick will be teaching people to fall underneath people flexing. Like, get under there to get a quick 15 roll.

You give up, hey, you give up 10 here. Okay, you did. Wait, it's going to happen. It's going to fucking happen. You're going to give up 10. But you see, he's about, if you would have rolled over and just made contact with his leg while he flexed right there, guess what? You actually picked up five yards from the floor.

You got to fall back. Okay, that's 15 yards. You're going back the other way. Think about that. Okay, you get beat, but did you? You can still win at the end. Like people will use that. And on this thing, the pulling guards, we got Quentin Nelson.

He's going to be back, which is great news. He can fly. They're going to have him. Oh, yeah. They're going to be a lot of that. Not that there isn't already because the game is played very wide, like everybody's doing that. But there's going to be a lot of moments, I think,

orchestrated by offenses to kind of set up these situations. This one was – they kind of did – it was the tackle on that side. He was pulling, but he was just on that side and he got out. Like they could do that all the time now. Yeah, just shift the guard to just go over one boom and then tackle leaves yep it's whoever your most athletic guy is normally like all right who's the guy that can move ryan kelly uh center for the indianapolis colts he's incredibly i'm so happy for him i'm he was 69th ranked player n Top 100 quiet never talks to anybody never

super quiet really cool dude really cool dude in the locker room went to Alabama they showed a bunch of clips of Quentin Nelson mic'd up

and Ryan was sitting there and those two just going through things they seem like the coolest pair of humans on an NFL field at any time Ryan Kelly I guess

is a also brainiac brain man I guess he is like... You see there... And then Quentin's like... Okay, yeah. And I think actually Quentin said,

I just fucked that guy up or whatever. And Ryan was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was just like a casual conversation on there. He was ranked 69th player in the NFL. I was so happy for him. He deserves it. He never draws any type of anything he's been hurt a couple times but every time he's in there that colts team is good he can move what hey if you

have everybody that can move on your line i guess there's not a question for you digs but more so like aq and um can what if they get some double i mean yeah what if there's a if you have that like uh especially with the two running backs if you have like like Marlon Mack and Jonathan Taylor in your backfield, can you just pick? Do people ever – I don't know. I mean, there's always people that fake for screens and shit like that. But if you've got like four guys that can move on your offensive line, especially now with these rules, I mean, it is –

that rule is going to be a big deal. That's why the Steelers' line was great for a while because Pouncey and DeCastro were athletic as fuck, and they were just moving them all over the place. It's so much fun when you get those big boys fucking turning a corner or whatever. That video that has now been, I guess, outed as edited, when Quentin Nelson was pulling and, and then he just blows the guy up.

I guess he was not yelling that entire time. And watching the Ryan Kelly, I don't think Quentin Nelson is yelling much, by the way. It sounds like he's just like a super. Just eating people's lunches throughout the entire game. Yeah, it seems like he's like a real actual, like, okay, yeah, I see that. Like pretty calculated. And then he gets out there and it's just like, everybody kind of dies. But that edit of that video of him yelling and then hitting somebody the internet loved it yeah that's awesome

that's everything you want and i think i'm not sure how happy quentin was if he's i'm not like that he was not happy about it oh man it's great that the nfl is back it is great that the nfl is back when's the next start a series? Thursday, sorry? I assume Thursday. Thursday, I believe, Patriots-Eagles again. And then will they move since it's only three this year? They'll move those all up, I guess? Actually, if you look at the schedule, there's like the third preseason game, and then there's kind of like a week off, and then it's the Thursday night opener.

Yeah, always a week off because those are cut weekends. Well, wasn't it always like the fourth preseason game, everyone played on a Thursday, and then there was that weekend off, then it was the opener? Yes. This one, I think it's like they play a weekend, and then the next weekend's off, and then it's a Thursday. More off time.

I can check, yeah. Which is probably going to extend the amount of time to make the decisions because going into that last game on Thursday night, I think a lot of people knew what their teams were going to be already. It was just like a formality to get through this game. And then the cuts came that weekend and then people would make, think they made the team on Monday. Oh, I live a dream, live a dream. And then they're cut Monday afternoon, actually,

because everybody's learning of another team that's getting cut. Cause that bottom, depending upon what the roster looks like, 15, 10 to 15 people, that is a waiver wire. That is, you're not just, there's been a couple of teams that after training camp, they've cut all the way up to like, they only have 40 people on the roster or whatever. And you're like, what are you going to do? And they're like, they just start picking up from other teams. It's almost like when you're playing cards and you're like, I need five.

Yeah, like you get five, like you want to kind of, what's that called? In cards, I don't play a lot of games that do this but pinochle you do you discard draw draw yeah like hey i need five more or whatever there's teams that do that where they're like listen we we don't know who the last 10 on our team are going to be but it's got to be better somewhere else than the 10 that we have right here well and that's what brandon bean said to us last week he was like you know at my preseason towards the end of it is just i'm looking at the last five to seven guys on our roster and the last five to seven guys on every other roster and just seeing if we can make, you know, a little bit

of an improvement anywhere. You know how the way I normally act is like, hey, when something good happens to somebody, it's like, hey, we should acknowledge this. I think I stopped doing it about year five. I think as it continued to backfire. Having lunch on that first day, you know, some rookie special teamer walks in, you know, just made team out of nowhere, hardworking guy, you know. Like, hey, how about you, man?

Dream come true. Let's go, dude. Congratulations. And then we go to a meeting, and I never saw that guy again. Oh, geez. That guy got cut ten minutes later, yeah. It was damn near every year. And I think Vinatieri was the one that was like,

are we going to stop congratulating people, man, until about Wednesday? Like, let's wait until about Wednesday. I'm like, you're right, you're right. What am I supposed to say to these kids? Like, hey, good luck. Because they all think that they made the team as well. Oh, boy. You know?

That's heartbreaking. There's no reason for me and Vinny to go in and be like, not yet. That's not our style. We're like, hey, upbeat style. Good to see you. Good to see you. And then we just talk about the food. We would normally just completely direct the conversation elsewhere and get through there.

Because there was a lot of awkward moments where I was like, man, I'm fucking so happy for you. And then they would tell us some very deep story. And it would be an entire thing. And then we'd go into that meeting and, you know. You remember what he told you about his mom and everything? Yeah, not happening anymore. and it would be an entire thing. And then we'd go into that meeting and, you know. He's not here. You remember what he told you about his mom and everything? Yeah, not happening anymore. They don't care.

They cut his ass. Oh, shit. Might have been fourth year. Fourth or fifth year, I don't remember what it was, but going into that Monday after cut weekend, he was like, hey, let's not congratulate him. They probably appreciated it when you did it. Well, that's what I try to do.

Hey, let's enjoy the moment there you know and when they i i would hope that some of them whenever they go elsewhere they're like you know pat and vinnie were really nice yeah good guys those are great they're really nice i mean it was kind of like a precipice of the grim reaper showing up talking to me though there was one time i think as we were walking out of the cafeteria old Grim Reaper was walking in. He was like, dude, look at the table. Where's he going? Oh, just told that guy how happy I was for him. Hey, good luck out there, dude.

You'll make it to him. You'll be fine. He'll give him his last good memory as a Colt, you know? I just feel like sometimes that's probably not remembered. You know what I mean? I feel like more so it's just me and Vinny feeling bad for the entire family that just got cut. Yeah.

Which people have to remember, whenever you hear these cut days where teams are going down to 85 and then they're going down to whatever and then they're going down to whatever, remember that's an entire family's future getting cut there and maybe never, never, ever coming back. Ever. Ever. Let's have a moment of silence for all of us.

We didn't want to do it, but there's a lot of football careers that have been incredible. Absolutely incredible. Have lit up peewee football fields, high school football fields, college football fields. Absolutely, whenever fans would go watch a lot of these guys play, they'd be like, hey, that's some bitch going to the NFL. He's a guy. That's a guy. We haven't had a guy like this in a long time.

We got a guy. Maybe a town's first ever person. Hey, we got a guy. He's going to be in the NFL. He was in the NFL. There was news reports. There was excitement. And then all of a sudden, there's a chance that a lot of these careers

are potentially going to end forever here coming up in the next couple weeks. Let's remember that. You had a hell of a run, even if you don't make it to the – Yeah. Still in the NFL. And Hall of Fame, too. And Hall remember that. You had a hell of a run, even if you don't make it to the NFL. Still in the NFL. And Hall of Fame, too. No, I don't think so. Hey,

listen, I don't want to be Mr. Rude Guy here, but if they had a week in preseason, they did not deserve being a fucking Hall of Famer. Okay, I don't want to look down on anybody. But can we have a little bit of... I don't want to pull out on anybody. Look, we have a little bit of... I don't want to pull out my... What do they say? I have a jump drive over there?

Archives? Yep. What is that? It's a jump drive then. Oh, yeah. USB. I think it's a manila folder. They pull out a file. MCA? What is it? MAC? Oh, here it is.

They open it. It, here it is. They all pass just eight pages. Wow. What if they tape it up onto the wall? One of those old projectors. On the fly. Do you remember this play, Roger? Anyways, I don't want to sound snooty, but if you only play one preseason game,

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