The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 482 - QB Battles Around The League, Unrest In Jacksonville, League Wide COVID Issues, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 26, 2021

On today's show, Pat is still feeling a bit under the weather, but calls in later to chat with AJ about how he's feeling, the news that Andrew Luck was back at a high school practice throwing in Colorado, if Urban is losing the team in Jacksonville already, the Bob Ross documentary that came out on Netflix, and much more. Plus, AJ and the boys also chat about Mac Jones continuing to impress at Patriots camp, if he ultimately will be named the starter, Dewey Haskins taking a veiled shot at the Washington coaching staff, how players in the NFL prepare for games during a game week, who some of AJ's favorite linebackers are, Ryan Tannehill testing positive for Covid, the Bills Covid issues, and everything else happening around the NFL as we are officially 14 days away from the start of the NFL season. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up everybody, it is Thursday, August 26th. You are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0. Pat is still feeling a little bit under the weather, but he does FaceTime in today. AJ Hawk, guest host once again. A lot of NFL news, looking ahead at the season. Today's a fun one, let's get into it. I think a lot of stuff is kind of starting to happen around the NFL. I know the boys are all back in the studio.

I'm not sure. Do you guys have an update on Pat? I haven't heard from him in a few hours. I think it's one of those things where, you know, the fever's getting up there and then it breaks, and then it gets back up there, and then it breaks. So I think he's just kind of, you know, lounging, trying to relax. I know on Instagram he posts he took a walk around his backyard,

got a little vitamin C. He is definitely still battling, I believe. Well, hey, we all are thoughts and prayers with Pat, obviously, at home battling this thing. I know last night his fever was pretty serious last night. I know it was not an easy thing to deal with. Hopefully he may feel up to calling in at some point today. But I don't know if the boys back there have been paying attention, man.

But there's a lot of weird stuff. Not weird stuff. Let's just say I want to start off with Jimmy G and the San Francisco 49ers and their head coach, Kyle Shanahan. So these guys are saying, they get asked, hey, do you know who the starting quarterback is going to be? And did both of these guys say, hell yeah, I have a good idea of who it's going to be? No, Kyle said, I have a pretty good idea of who it's going to be and did both of these guys say hell yeah i know i have a good idea of who it's going to be now kyle said i have a pretty good idea of who it's going to be and then they came jimmy came up next and they asked jimmy and jimmy said hell yeah i have a good idea of who

it's good yeah and then he smiled but like it was weird kyle the audio was like because kyle was like i don't i'm not sure i know what's what's happening in the next few days it was weird like but obviously it seems as if jimmy g will be the starter based on jimmy being asked about what kyle responded to jimmy said yeah i have a pretty good idea i had a big smile on his face so it seems as if it's going to be jimmy 100 well i don't know is it a possibility that it's like a smoke screen he's trying to throw people off because you don't want to give your first opponent a competitive advantage j Jimmy's a really good actor if it is. Yeah.

No, it's got to be. Also, you don't need smoke screens against the Lions. You throw anyone in there, they're going to win. Bingo. Okay. Hey, you know what, Jimmy could be a great actor. We know he may have dated an actor a couple years ago that people seemed to really good up puff and puff about like they didn't think he should be going to dinner with some lady,

but maybe she taught him a few things. And she taught him how to act when the camera was in front of him. So, hey, either way. It was one date. Jimmy G, I think this feels good for him. He did date that actress. You had to go to like page 64 to find her. Oh, Tony.

Come on, Tony. What are you talking about? They went on one date. All I'm saying is I started questioning Jimmy G and his decision making. All I'm saying is I started questioning Jimmy G and his decision making. When you look at Jimmy G and you know who Jimmy G is, and he had to go down to, I don't know, past 100 in the top rankings of porn stars on Pornhub.

Come on, Tony. Jimmy should not go any farther than page one. It's enough, Tony. I mean, that's uncalled for. I don't think Jimmy deserves it. Maybe he was working his way in. You start with whoever, and then you work your way up. Tony, let's not act like Jimmy had to do anything.

This was probably an opportunity that was presented to him, and he was just not willing to turn it down. Here we go. Foot in the door. Now he probably has a bunch of connections. Is there any thought, though, AJ, that Jimmy G just goes out, plays unbelievable, they have an unreal season, they go to the Super Bowl, maybe they win the Super Bowl, and then it's like, okay, now we have Jimmy G and Trey Lance.

What are we going to do? Do we just send Jimmy G packing after his best season possibly ever? I mean, that's a great hypothetical that you laid out, and that's a great problem for the 49ers to have. If Jimmy G plays so well that he takes this team and they win a Super Bowl, yeah, then you do have some questions. But I would imagine they still believe no matter what happens this year that Trey Lance is the future of their team,

most likely after this season, no matter what Jimmy does. Do you think this is like a same situation as the Bears? Because Jimmy G seems like he's a little bit less of like a lame duck stopholder than Andy Dalton is because he did take them to the Super Bowl. Like, do you think those two situations are similar in terms of how long each one of their leashes is? I guess a little bit, but Jimmy's issue really hasn't been poor play. It's always been, and Shanahan even said, like, it's his availability.

He's been banged up. He's been hurt, had some big-time injuries to keep him out of the lineup, and that's what they're worried about. They have to protect themselves, and they saw Trey Lance, so they jumped up and took him. But everything you hear about Trey Lance, and you see him making some unbelievable throws in the preseason, are people saying, like, all right, yeah, he's flashing,

he's showing great signs, and he has a gigantic – his ceiling is so high, but he's just not doing – he still needs time, I guess, to mature and to get get more reps isn't that kind of what the the rumor mill says about it yeah because he barely played he didn't play basically at all last year either aj so i mean it's gonna take some time you have to go with jimmy to start the year he also had the minus 18 percent uh completion over expectation rating uh worst of the court rookie quarterbacks that i saw on that list so it was something that you can't overcome i don't think that's right i'm i mean you're right

we went over that yesterday so can you explain exactly what that stat was that we went over on the show feels as if it was to just make it look like trevor lawrence was playing better than he was that and i believe someone out there goes oh that was supposed to be a completion and it wasn't fucking minus five percent that should have been deflected away it was completion plus five percent yes completion percentage over expectation we went over this yeah trey lands is the lowest when it comes to all of the rookies who knows what exactly uh this does this means i get man i don't know we talked about i know pat talks about it and. You can make it look however you want, and you can kind of manipulate things and get people on your side. But that one, I mean, I'm not going to put too much into it.

I know Jacksonville's got all kinds of stuff. We'll get to that with what's going on with Urban Meyer and the team, how they're buying in, what the culture is like. But I know we talk a lot of Patriots with Connor here and with what they have going on, but I feel like this is huge news. It's a huge day. Cam Newton back at practice with the Patriots. I hear hear he's connor i believe you tweeted he's running with the ones and seven on seven yeah he was the first one to take the first nap in the competitive

seven on seven with the giants he also took the first series um in the 11 on 11s almost through a pick to james bradbury who apparently mac jones told him to hold my nuts bitch yesterday um not positive is that a real quote so that was a that was a real quote that got tweeted out i James Bradbury, who apparently Mac Jones told him to hold my nuts bitch yesterday. Not positive. Was that a real quote? So that was a real quote that got tweeted out. I still haven't been able to clarify if Simon Charles at S. Charles NFL is a real person or if he's like a Barry McOchner character. So we'll see.

But today it's definitely been more of a Giants win, I would say. Mac had an interception early, and then he kind of came back, had like a fourth-down conversion, a couple third-down conversions, a touchdown to Bourne. But it doesn't seem like Mack had the 34-40 day that he did yesterday. And I was wondering if you could probably speak on this. Like is it more of a test that Bill would bring Cam in and put him as the number one right away just because everyone's like kind of all on the Mac Jones train at the moment?

So is it kind of like a, hey, reality check, you're still not the one yet. You're not going to be the guy until you actually beat Cam out. Or is he just kind of trying to give Cam a little respect and not completely take his job away just because of this whole COVID mix-up? I mean, I would imagine it's a little bit of both, but I don't think Belichick is super sentimental when it comes to deciding who the starter may be. I know anyone that's played for him does say, like, hey, no, he's a real human, and he has emotion,

and he cares about his players. He really does, but he cares about winning football games. That's number one. So I don't think he's doing Cam any favors or anything, but maybe there's a little bit of that. Like, hey, this guy, unfortunate incident that was very unique in the times, and he had to sit out five days, so I'm going to let him run with the ones when he gets back.

And there is such a groundswell of support for Mac. I know Tom Curran, our guy, a Boston reporter, has said, what, there's no legitimate reason for Cam to take any more reps with the ones did he say that yeah he said there's no yeah there's no on-field reason for Cam Newton to take meaningful regular season reps so I mean if you hear that from reporters then you hear him talking shit and running laps with the old line and all that it feels as though there's a clear like hey if he goes with Cam Newton there should be some sort of uproar I mean at the end of

the day it's bill belichick he's gonna do he said this before he's just gonna do whatever's best for the team so if that happens to be cam week one then it happens to be cam but i do think to ty's point about kind of the short leash that annie dollin has like if cam comes out first quarter first half of week one and he doesn't you know perform up to snuff or even if he just makes a couple you know small mistakes overthrows maybe under throws whatever you want to call it then you got to assume they're just going to put mac jones in right away if he's playing this well right i mean how i don't know like how short of a leash do you want like if you're going to commit and say cam's going to start week one i mean i i have a hard time seeing him being pulled like you

think if he had a rough first half and they're down 17, that they're going to put Mack to start the third quarter? I mean, I don't see why not, especially when you're hearing all this stuff, like that he is kind of processing the offense and the playbook very well, that it's much more balanced between the pass and the run. But also, like, Cam just played by far since he's been in New England, his best game. And yeah, it was a preseason against the Eagles. But he did not look that good throwing the ball at any point last year.

You could maybe point to Seattle. But even then, there were still some shaky throws. Against the Philadelphia Eagles, he looked unreal. He was throwing ropes. But again, if this COVID thing becomes sort of an issue, and then also the team is kind of not leaning towards Mac, but respects him the just amount as they respect Cam, then it's like, hey, if there's struggles, you're not just going to roll with the guy just because you want to keep Mac on the bench. I don't think, or slow play Mac rather, I don't think that would make

any sense. Do you think this is a situation, AJ, where there's a big divide between how the media views him and how he's actually viewed within the building? Did that ever happen while you were playing where the media would be all over some guy during the preseason and you guys maybe kind of see that and it's like, okay, well, they're a little off on this and misguided? Yeah, I think that definitely happens. Not as much at the quarterback position uh but yeah especially when the media gets usually and fans get to watch all of training camp

practice and they're grading one-on-ones and they're doing all this they may jump on somebody who they think like is gonna have an absolute breakout year that the players probably know okay chances are like no this some people are just all-stars in practice some people that's just how they they are. But with Mack, I don't get that feeling because you do get all of his teammates supporting him in the media. And we know the Patriots players, they rarely say much to the media. When they speak, they give the cliche coaches answers that they want them to give.

These guys have been pumping Mack up hard, I feel like, when the media asks about him. Yeah, that's why when Matthew – obviously the media, to your point, has been saying that he has to play, but, like, when a guy like Matthew Slater comes out and says, like, this dude's character, how he carries himself, like, the respect he commands, like, all that, I feel

like just that kind of endorsement from Slater is damn near enough for him to play, and also like, the Patriots defense is obviously a pretty solid defense. They've got a couple guys. So if he's able to tear up that first team and also be able to shoot the shit with other players and all that, it just doesn't make sense to me not to put him

in right away. But obviously, he still has to beat out Cam if Bill's still rolling Cam out with all the ones right away. So I'm sure we can all agree that bill belichick has probably seen almost every single situation that you could face as a as a head football coach in the nfl but i was trying to think back has he ever been the head coach of a team where they have a legit quarterback battle like this going on obviously not new england he hasn't going back to when he was the cleveland browns i'm trying to think i

know we cut bernie kozar in the middle of the year bernie went and won a bat won a ring as the backup of the cowboys after that but i'm just wondering if he's had to deal with this because i know belichick has some quotes out there and i asked him like he doesn't really know how it's going to play out he's not saying oh yeah we have a plan this is it it's what was his quote he said i can't really tell you how it's going to play out when they asked him well i guess he he kind of had to make the decision when bledsoe came back after his injury with brady and stuff like that but that was not really that was already yeah yeah that was a competition brady ran away with it i guess it was definitely a decision he had to make when

when bledsoe became came back but yeah it was all right all right well tom has gone on this magical run with his team we're going to stick with it i guess now it's a little bit different yeah and there was a report talking about how, like, if Mac Jones gets this job, he will not give it back. So maybe that's kind of the thought where it's, like, if he's that confident in Mac that when he does go out there, he'll just take over and it'll be his, then maybe you do go with Cam just because it's like, hey, we'll give him one chance

if he takes advantage of it. And if we play really well with him, then good, we still have Mac. And if he starts to fall off, we'll give him one chance if he takes advantage of it. And if we play really well with him, then good. We still have Mack. And if he starts to fall off, we'll put Mack in. And then the rest is history. And this whole kind of thing is, you know, debt. But there's still so much to, you know, go with still because of the fact that the season is still two weeks away or 15 days away from the first NFL Sunday.

But, you know, I personally hope that it's Mack. I know Gumpy, as a Dolphins fan, hopes that it's Cam. But either way, you're kind of winning with both. I always go back to what Lombardi said, though, AJ. Like, if you start with Cam and he doesn't play well, then you go to Mack. If you start with Mack or you start with Justin Fields and they struggle and you have to go back to Dalton or Cam, I think then that would be

considered a mistake, right? Yeah. And it is, I guess, interesting how similar those situations are, how similar, I guess, Cam's situation is with Andy Dalton. Yeah, it's a little bit different in ways, but really they're both up against a tough task where the person behind them has a ton of support from the whole fan base, from a lot of people there. The person behind them, the draft is playing very well and and they know, like, hey, if I am in there as a starter week one, I start getting nervous for these guys, for Cam, for Andy Dalton, if they are in there starting, because I'm like, how do you have – I mean, it's going to be a great test for them mentally,

I think, to know, like, all right, if I throw a pick early, if I do this, like, I don't want to worry that I'm going to be yanked out of the game and I'll never start again for this team. There's a lot on their shoulders, but that's why they get paid a bunch of money, and that's what I say all the time. Playing quarterback in the NFL is the toughest position in all of pro sports. There's just so much physically and mentally that goes into it that I'm blown away, really, by the way that these guys can handle it.

I just think Belichick, he finds himself kind of in a place where he hasn't really had to deal with this before. And I'll be curious to see how it all works out. Well, it's funny, too, looking at the Bears and the Patriots QB competition just because, like, Andy Dalton and Justin Fields, they obviously offer much different things. It's kind of the same with Cam and Mac Jones. Like, Mac Jones is, I would say, much more of an Andy Dalton, whereas Fields probably has, you know know a pretty solid arm I'm not

saying he doesn't know how to throw the ball but him and Cam also very similar so they both add different dimensions to the offense and that's where you know you just kind of have to wait and see what happens I think Andy obviously is still the week one starter there that's been pretty adamant the whole time whereas Bill and McDaniels have kind of gone back and forth with cam and obviously now him missing five days definitely affects them especially about how good mac did yesterday so you know there's a lot of time this is why the offseason's so interesting just because the rookie quarterbacks and i mean to your point that's kind of why we've been watching these games because you want to see how these guys are going to do and how these quarterback competitions are going to play

out well don't you think we want to see also who plays, how much they play? I know the Bills have said Josh Allen will play in the third preseason game. He said some of the starters may even play the whole first half. I doubt Josh Allen will play the first half, but he didn't play in the first two preseasons. He's going to play in the third. What are the Patriots going to do? Have they come out and said what they're doing?

No, they haven't yet. I assume Cam's probably going to play the whole first quarter into the second quarter, especially after missing time. He obviously was affected from the COVID last year, and this is a different situation. He didn't actually get COVID. He just missed time, but you've got to assume that probably his kind of last tryout

almost, or not tryout, but his last kind of way to show like, hey, I need to be the QB1. This is my job, and he's got to play better than Mac. And maybe they do go almost in every other. I'm more picturing this competition coming down to next week and the week after game week where it's like, all right, here we go. 11 on 11, you guys both get reps on the ones.

Whoever, you know, scores gets the job basically. I assume he's just going to put him in a high-pressure situation, and then whoever plays well wins the job, just because it's so close. Obviously, Mack played so well yesterday, and Cam wasn't there, so that helps him. But because Cam was there last year, and it's kind of been his job, and he was a captain last year, and that whole thing, it's going to be some sort of competition coming down to the last week. Do you think him being a captain last year has any sort of effect on anything? No, not really. I don't.

I mean, yeah, it speaks a lot for who he is and the kind of leader he is, but I don't think when Belichick is sitting there trying to make the final decision, he's like, oh, but he was a captain last year. Got to play. Yeah, I just don't think that will have a huge role. But do they technically have to announce a starter before the game? Could they go right up to game time and not announce a starter? I think they can go.

They don't have to announce it, right? Yeah, because look at when last year with Herbert, what was that? Like two minutes before the game we found out he was starting? Well, he got hurt, though. But it was because Tyra got hurt. Yeah, I guess you could do that. But you know what I mean? Like, I don't think you have to they release depth chart they have to release

depth charts i know but they could just put 1a 1b or you don't have to have you could have two starters at any positions you want well in that week leading up to you got to assume the media will probably tell you like okay max whether it's mac or cam okay max coming out he's taking all the one reps but but think about connor Connor, during the regular season, though, the media usually has to leave after warm-ups and maybe individuals, so they don't get to see team periods once you start in-season practice. Yeah, so, again, that is why. Because I didn't know that.

I just assumed that's how we were going to find out, is they were just going to tell us, like, okay, it's game week. Cam's taking all the ones reps, blah, blah, blah. But was that new? Was that always kind of a rule? were they never able to do that i think each team has their own set of rules on how long the media stays but i don't think there's any i don't know of any teams to where the media during the regular season watches the whole practice and gets to watch team periods and all that like you know when you say you're watching whatever espn during the week

and they're showing they're talking about teams and they're showing clips like on a Wednesday. It always looks like, oh, man, these guys don't do anything. Look how easy practice is. They're not doing it. They're just walking around doing pat and go, stretching. I'm like, yeah, because they're allowed to film like the first 15 minutes when you're warming up and you're doing pat and goes and you're just kind of getting loose.

And then all of a sudden they blow a whistle and you go do team periods, and the media, they show them out the door. So you can't really get a whole lot of info for that but i wanted to switch i can't believe i haven't mentioned it yet ryan tannahill he's in the covet protocol so what i don't know exactly all of the details about this ty could you explain what's going on with tannahill and how long he's going to be out well i believe he so he was vaccinated he was one of the guys who basically said like hey the nfl forced my hand here i didn't necessarily want to get it, but he did. He got vaccinated, got COVID. And I believe I read that because he is vaccinated, it's not like the five day, you know, like waiting period or whatever.

And I think he just needs to test 24 hours apart that are both negative. And then he's good to come back and it also said i believe he doesn't have to um like with the contact tracing it's not the same i think there are still certain things he can do um but i don't know if he's in the building today or if he has to stay at home or anything like that the titans gym said that they are 97 98 vaccinated so it shouldn't affect the team like like it did in buffalo where if you're not vaccinated and you're near someone who did get COVID, even though they're vaccinated, then you got to do the five-day thing. It seems like the Titans are almost all vaccinated. So it should be just like if Tannehill gets two negative tests within 48 hours or 24 hours apart, whatever, he should be back whenever that happens.

Same as Braves, his head coach had the same thing come up, right? He was vaxxed. He tested positive. He had to show two negative. Is he back yet? that's what i was just asking i have no idea to be honest uh when did he that pop was it monday so i would assume so or unless he's still testing positive but we would oh yeah true i guess because he already did test positive so we wouldn't necessarily hear again but uh yeah i don't know i mean they made it seem like because tannahill is vaccinated that this really isn't that big of a deal if he doesn't have covet he should be back to practice within the next few days man i doubt people have strong feelings on both sides of this argument do they

no i don't think so no one really cares dive into this yeah it's pretty clear cut you know kind of just write down everyone's on the same page with this one. Yeah, I believe. It is good. It's fun to see people come together. This just really brings people together. Everything that's happening right now. But you mentioned the Buffalo Bills. How many guys do they have out right now on the whole COVID protocol? I believe six I saw. Yeah.

Did a trainer test positive? Is that right? Yes. So is it the people that are away from the facility now, are they the close contacts that were unvaxxed? Is that who's out of the building? Yes. And then the people that are away from the facility now, are they the close contacts that were unvaxxed? Is that who's out of the facility? Yeah. Gabriel Davis, Cole Beasley, I'm not sure who else.

Yeah, and then to add on to the Bills thing, Isaiah McKenzie got fined the traditional or standard first fine, which is $14,650 because I guess he wasn't wearing his tracker or he was spotted in the facility not wearing his mask, and he's unvaccinated, so you have to wear your mask all the time. Wow. All right. And then, McKenzie, I know he had a letter that the NFL sent him,

his fine letter, right? And your first fine is $14,650. And then is the next one one-game check? And then after that, you get a four-game suspension. Is that right? So I don't believe it was an actual – I could be wrong, but I thought I read that it's not a four-game suspension. It's just you don't get paid four-game checks.

So I think it's your fine four-game – never mind, four-game suspension, and you are unpaid. So, yeah. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah, I don't think they ever do that in the NFL, do they? Where it's like, hey, you still get to work, but you're not getting paid. They don't have that, do they? They must not.

Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, one. It's either you're suspended or not. They don't let you play and say, oh, you're playing these four games, but you're not getting game checks for these games. Do you think this is changing him at all, though? Do you think now he's like, oh, okay, now that I got my first fine, I'm just going to go get vaccinated now?

Or is he just going to be much more strict, always have a mask on, put his helmet on with the mask on, and then take it off? Well, and do you get charged as like a repeat offender? Let's say he gets COVID again or he's a close contact and can't be there, but he was doing everything right. I don't think they give a shit. I think he's still considered a repeat offender. So even if he was doing everything right and it happens again,

then it'll be the next stage of whatever that is. He'll get the one-week salary offense or, you know, a suspension and be unpaid. Yeah, I mean, you don't want to be fined $14,650, let alone if you know this happens again at one week's salary during the season, what a game check would be. No, I mean, yeah, I would imagine guys definitely have to start rethinking it. And if you have one strike against you and you've already been fined, yeah, you don't want to give up more.

And I know I was reading something earlier today when they said, like, hey, unvaccinated players are going to be like they may be healthy scratch like day game day of game because they have to get tested the day of a game and vaccinated players don't have to get tested day of a game so you may lose somebody that you had up so it's just yeah man it's i don't i don't get it i don't know how it's all going to play out i don't know how it's going to work throughout the season but there's just so much going on right now i can't imagine what's going on in these coaches meetings when they're talking to each other about like the whole vaccination status of their team yeah what does this do like in the locker room like it's one thing at the beginning when they the guys who aren't vaccinated were choosing not to get vaccinated it wasn't hurting

the team or anything like that but now when guys are like missing practice time and potentially missing games is that like do anything is that going to now when guys are like missing practice time and potentially missing games, does that like do anything? Is that going to cause a riff in the locker room potentially? I'm sure it is, yeah, because just like the rest of society, I think players have their opinions one way or the other on the whole vaccination status. So I'm sure there's people on teams, you know, that are wondering why guys aren't getting vaccinated and unvaccinated guys

are talking, you know, telling them all their information, what they've been reading, what they've taught. It's just like going out anywhere, I feel like. So, yeah, I think that's an issue for sure. It depends on who the player is, though. Like if your starting quarterback is a stud and he's unvaccinated and he's playing awesome, guys aren't going to say a whole lot to him. It's kind of on your production and how the team views you as a leader

and how much they respect you, I think, too. Well, it's not every Bills player because there was one offensive lineman, I think Deion Dawkins for them, who got the first shot in between getting the second shot, got COVID, and he had a terrible, terrible case. He said he wasn't sure he was going to make it.

He was hospitalized for four days. So I know that there are some voices in the Bills locker room that take it very seriously. And then obviously on the other side of the spectrum, there are the Cole Beasleys that, you know, will die or retire before they get the vaccine. Yeah.

When you, you said the guy that spent four days, did he end up getting the second vaccine or did he not get the second? I believe he ended up getting the, it wasn't like two vaccines, just the second shot. I believe he got the second. Yeah, I believe he ended up getting the, it wasn't like two vaccines, just the second shot. I believe he got the second shot, even though he is an immune-a-corn, because he has that 90-day window where he has the antibodies and he won't be affected by it. Now that the world's opening back up, so many new thrills are on the horizon. Okay.

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break. It sounds like something's happening at Jake Paul, Tyron Woodley press conference. I know Ariel Hawani has tweeted that all hell is broken loose and that somebody from Jake Paul's team has got into it with Tyron Woodley's mom, which is not great. She's known as – people talk about her. She's around, and people have a lot of respect for her. This seems like it got real, huh? I know Jake Paul does a lot of stuff for a show or to hype the fight.

It sounds like something real has started here in Cleveland at this press conference. Yeah, and this is not good for Jake Paul, if I had to bet. Now Tyron Woodley's got a whole new batch of worms under his belt that he wants to go ahead and absolutely slaughter Jake Paul. But also, maybe this is part of the plan. Jake Paul's a smart guy. Maybe this is, you know, let's get Woodley a little pissed off. Let's get him a little too aggressive on the ring on Sunday,

and then we'll counter. I mean, I have a hard time believing that they're going to, this is part of the fight with his mom involved. That's the only thing that has me worried about what's going on. I guess this goes to the NFL training camps and all these fights that happen, and all we have are still camps and all these fights that happen. And all we have are still shots and all this. If they're at a press conference and there's some kind of melee happening,

there's not footage out right away. I would imagine Ariel Hawane is streaming the whole thing. Do you think there's a – I mean, were punches thrown? I don't know if they were just talking shit to her or what. I mean, has a melee happened? Every video I've seen online right now, I have not seen one fight at all. Just verbal altercation? You think he'll want his lion?

When Ariel says all hell is broken loose, what's that? It might be like the gotcha hat situation just with out bodyguards. It's probably just a lot of hooting and hollering back and forth at each other. Granted, I have no idea, but if someone directly was attacking Woodley's mom just

kind of out of nowhere then there definitely is going to be a massive problem i'm sure some clips will come out soon here because it might still be going on they might still be filming the whole entire thing if all hell has broken loose well i did see a a still shot earlier from the presser and jake paul's sitting there in his little spot at the table, and he's shirtless with like eight chains on. He looks like Jake. But Zito actually sent me a picture. I want to read it real quick.

It's this Miles Garrett thing, Z, that you sent me. So Miles Garrett had a quote saying, I'd beat the brakes off Logan Paul, but I have bigger fish to fry. Okay, Miles Garrett, one of the most impressive looking humans on planet earth right now. The guy, how he moves, just how he's built. Unbelievable freak. And Jake, which I think this is a bit out of line. It's stick to football, my friend.

You saw what happened when Nate Robinson from the NBA tried to step into the ring. I would argue with Jake that I think Nate Robinson and Miles Garrett are somewhat different humans in their build, how they can handle themselves. Don't you think it's a little bit different? There's not exactly apples to apples here? Yeah, no disrespect to Nate Robinson, but he's like 5'7". Miles Garrett is what, 6'5", 280, and ripped some guy's helmet off and tried to split his head in half with it. If this guy gets juiced up and gets going, I wouldn't want to fuck with him.

Not good. Yeah, he's miles good. No, I can't imagine ever taking that gun and winning, and really anything that has to do with physical ability. That would be awful. Yeah, we'll see what happens with this Jake Paul thing. I mean, you're right, Connor. We haven't seen it.

We're just hearing it. This could easily all be manufactured for the fight, but Hey, that's what they're doing. Maybe he, maybe these guys just understand it and they're, they're willing I guess to cross the line to try to sell a fight a little bit. Yeah. And it adds a storyline and there's more promotion to it. And like, obviously we're reacting to it live. So we were not too sure, but also we are reacting to it.

Like this adds kind of another element to the fight where it's like, okay, now the guy who is the underdog at plus 164, his mom's getting verbally attacked by the guy who's favorited, so maybe this does kind of change a little aspect to it and kind of adds just another element where it makes the fight not more interesting but a little more serious now if there is some mom shots being thrown by team Paul. Oh, we got some video right here for you, AJ.

Let's see it. What do you got? That's a while ago. Oh. Come on, take it up. We're in the room. It's a lot of orange. I don't give a fuck about my orange.

Not you, not you. So that's Jake's guy sitting there? Yeah. Is that Woodley's brother? Is that his mom down with you guys? That's what we have. That's also a Paul guy with the emblem on the back of his hoodie that fell down there. I don't know. That looked pretty serious. Something was said.

Jake Paul's guy. Something was said. And so Woodley's mom got in the guy's face. I think Arrow even said in one of the tweets, like, this could have gone much worse. You're right. Looking at that, that looked like it could have been a full melee in that room. Especially if it's his mom, just to hammer home that fact.

Ariel's there. Is the presser still going on? We should try to reach out to Ariel. Get him to call us from the presser. Boots on the ground. We know he's not tied through ESPN anymore. He's doing his own thing. He's all over the place place he works for nine different companies pat's back pat you talked to ariel yet about this i just texted him literally i texted him immediately upon seeing that all hell had broken loose he has not responded i think because he's trying to either upload clips or maybe because he's just not going to respond try not to catch any he didn't want to catch any uh

friendly fire and get catch a haymaker to the temple, probably. I don't know if you guys saw it. Did you guys see Omar in there? No. Watch that video back. Omar at Omar. The clip, dude. Run that thing. We're going to see it on SportsCenter.

Wait for it. That's Tyron Woodley's mom, right? She's saying, I don't give a fuck look there's oh there he is look at him wait he gets oh no

so much going on is that Woodley's brother I don't know I don't know everybody says Tyron Woodley's mom is a sweetheart she was talking some real shit to that dude

it was awesome the way that that dude is standing over top of the other dude Omar sometimes people just stand get out of there protect Omar at all costs shit to that dude. It was awesome. The way that that dude is standing over top of the other dude. Omar. Omar, get out of there. Protect Omar at all costs.

Hey, remind me who the hell Omar is. What? Come on! He's the guy that does the LeBron and Ball Brother tweets and posts on the ESPN Instagram, right? Yep. He runs the SportsCenter

account. Have a little respect for Omar, dude. Is it known that he runs the SportsCenter account? Oh, yeah. Come on, Hawk. But it's not CPAT. I know a guy that runs some high-profile accounts that you introduced me to that it's not known that he runs these accounts, though.

Yeah, well, Omar pins his own comments so he's an espn employee yeah he's uh he runs sports center he was the sports center instagram account is his thing brah but he um you know he's a good story actually he created you know came out of nowhere made house of highlights now he's a sports's at SportsCenter. Oh, okay. That's him. Okay, I got it. He always ends up being right in the middle of everything, Omar. It's awesome.

Would you want to be? I would, yes. Wherever Ariel is in that room, I would not want to be right in the middle. I want to be out on the edges, standing on a chair, looking over. I don't want to get caught with that because that thing could get real serious real quick, and they may think you're involved. It's funny you say that. He's in the back corner right now.

Mr. Woodley was not thrown. If I'm somebody, though, I'm climbing up those things there to get a little sky. Scaffolding. I'm surprised Omar didn't do that, by the way. Normally, Omar would hit to the skies. Did you say you saw Ariel in any of these

clips, Zeke? No, it's funny because he's in the back right corner now. Like Omar was in the middle. Ariel's so far away from everything. It's pretty funny. Ariel has not responded to me yet. I'm looking right now. I said, anybody hit anybody?

And he said, no. Nah. Ariel's probably getting an exclusive probably with Woodley and Woodley's mom. Billy just sent a text that that was actually his sister that was talking shit in that guy's face. I mean, this is classic. This is good stuff. This is what you're looking for. I'm excited for this fight. A lot of orange in here. Pumped.

How you feeling, man? Well, I was supposed to go take a shower there. I had to knock it up. Good. Got to rest. Yeah, I mean, I was supposed to take a shower. Are you on like a roller coaster, Pat? Do you feel somewhat average to below average,

and then you feel terrible, and then you go back up and down? How is it? Yeah, it's coming in waves. It comes in waves. You know, like I said this last hour there, whenever I called in abruptly and ruined a whole Lincoln-Riley conversation, and I apologize for that, I think he'll go to the NFL whenever the hell he wants.

You know, whenever the hell he wants. He'll wait for them to go to the SEC, or do you think he'll leave before they get to the SEC? I think it depends if the right NFL opportunity opens up. I think the right NFL opportunity would have been there if Lincoln Riley said, hey, I want to go to the NFL. Because the SEC is in what, four years, five years? 2025, I think, yeah. And the Cowboys job was open two years ago,

and that's when they were throwing Lincoln Riley around, and it seemed like that was the right time. It'll be open again before they go to the SEC. Whoa. Whoa. Easy kicks. You not watching Hard Knocks, dude? Listen, I am watching Hard Knocks,

and I appreciate that Big Mike respects Lightning, and he respects Pittsburgh, because I also respect both of those things. But we also know that he did dupe NFL Network Tom. And I just don't know, Pat. I just don't know. It does seem like he could potentially stinky coach him again. But Jerry Jones seems to be doing whatever he can

to have to win another Super Bowl. And maybe Big Mike will do that. It comes in waves. AJ, it comes in waves. It's just an annoying. Like, this is annoying. This is an annoying thing. I don't think I get sick much.

I haven't been sick in, like, maybe 15 years. I don't think so. I don't know if I'm, like, the right person to be telling people how, you know, I feel. You're just super achy super sweaty you know it's one of those things does it feel like it's it's getting better yeah but then i'll like pass out and i'll wake up and i feel terrible you know like it's just like it's kind of coming in ways i'm on some good kush no i'm not i'm not that just made me feel that way i actually haven't been able to smoke because i'm worried about my lungs or whatever which is damn shame this is the lowest i've ever been i

saw the entire youtube comment section which seems to be less cesspool today than it was yesterday i'm not sure i haven't peaked my mind in there as much everybody said pat's all doped up i'm not this is so bad hey how you doing i haven't been here in about 10 years either no we know you get your uh any medication from connor when it comes to covid related things we know that what the hell are you talking about hawk well that's the thing i mean i got zinc here i got elderberries here i get vitamin this i can fight it that you're supposed to try the uh chloroquine can i just go get that? I can't go anywhere, but can somebody just get that at Walgreens?

I'm not positive. I am honestly not positive. I started a war, though. We almost got into it. Man, my fucking mentions on my Twitter were awful. I was deep in your Instagram comments last night on that post, Pat. Are people saying, like, what are you, I want to know what are people upset about on both sides.

I don't get it. So, first of all, thank you to everybody that sent me messages. I, like, take a nap. I wake up. Yesterday I had 60 text messages. Jeez. Okay? That normally happens whenever I do something stupid on TV

or I go, like, maybe something terrible happens to somebody I know. I'll get like not normally do. And I'm somebody that reads all my texts. I got messages from so many people, people I haven't talked to in forever saying, Hey, hope you're all right. Let me know if you need anything. Let me know if you need anything. I'm like, thank you so much. And then on Twitter and Instagram, so many people saying nice things. I appreciate everybody being incredibly nice. That was very, very cool. People that I haven't talked to in a long, long time, long, long time, sent me messages that I didn't think even knew I still existed or cared about my existence. It was very nice.

That was very cool. Now, the other people that responded to those tweets and to that Instagram, it seemed like they did want to get their agendas across. It was very loud. it was very loud it was very loud gumpy i i i almost had to get out of there because i thought i was gonna make my covid worse from how toxic oh man it was fucking like everyone no one even like there was a lot of comments like get better get better and then you just hit a stretch where it was just fucking mayhem and every comment had another five comments on it from other people it was chaos in there i learned a lot you know that because i'm vaxxed i don't have i didn't have to go to the hospital

you know a lot of people tweeting me but then i saw a lot of people tweeting at 104 and a half degree fever his ass should be in the fucking hospital so it's like i guess i am quite a uh anomaly in a situation that has caused quite a conversation aj quite a talk so are people upset at you for getting covid or are they upset like some like okay i shouldn't even why do i even care it doesn't there's no like rational thought well pat no people people are utilizing me getting covid while being fully vaxxed and getting 104.5 degree fever yesterday as either their reason for why you don't get vaxxed, which, by the way, if it's worse than this and vaxx is slowed down, get vaxxed, by the way, because I've been miserable here. Or people have been saying, that's why I'm not getting vaxxed. This motherfucker got vaxxed.

Then a lot of people are saying he's probably forced to get vaxxed, which I don't know if that's true or not. But a lot of people are saying this guy got vaxxed. He's still got $104,000. I mean, it was a war, AJ. A full war in there. Did Cole Beasley text you to ask for you to come on and feature on his told you this vaxx was bullshit diss track? Or was that not one of the texts?

I saw he was in the booth, by the way. I saw he was in the booth. I'm excited to hear that remix. Oh, yeah. It's going to be fire. Who's he mad at? He said they got me too, but then I'm still out for five days. I mean, it is.

This COVID thing is wild. It's an annoying feeling. It is very, very annoying, I will say. Hey, maybe Andy Luck comes back to the Colts and turns the mood around, huh? How about that? That's the first time I've seen him around football, right, AJ? That's what I said. Yeah, I was reading through some of the shit that

happened earlier whenever I was asleep. He was a guy that just disappeared after he retired. They asked me to come on Sports Center the day after he retired. And they're like, do you think he comes back? Do you think blah, blah, blah? blah and literally i was like if if andrew's retiring like this i think he's just going to disappear like i think i think andrew's going to disappear he seems like a guy that i don't know him uh that well okay i just know him as a teammate he was too nice of a person i thought but

he is a guy who you know kind of low-key like he's a hippie kind of you know he rides bikes around indianapolis indiana he loves ipas like this guy like he's not doing something just to cause attention to himself like that is the last thing andrew luck would do so when he retired i was like yo this guy's probably fucking gone if i had to guess then he has vanished completely vanished every year when the Colts have a quarterback issue, everybody thinks, hey, Andrew's coming back. Jimmy with the Colts might be able to get Andrew back with the Colts or whatever. And I'm always like, nah, nah, Andrew seems to be happy.

He got $25 million from Jim Irsay because Jim Irsay, awesome owner, as opposed to those scumbags up in Detroit. But I don't know what him going to that practice wearing those zipper off shorts oh yeah oh yeah um because i assume he went hiking out there you know and that's i guess that's hiking gear as opposed to just high school gear but him getting back into the swing of practice and football practice is he coming back hey it wasn't like he was just such a nice guy and some high school coach called him and said, Hey, can you come speak to the team? I'm sure you get asked to go talk to high school teams or whatever level it may be.

It seems like, from what I heard, Andrew reached out to the coach and said, Hey, can I come do something at practice? Can I come check practice out? And then he goes up there and he's slinging balls and they're all trying to get interceptions off of him. And by the way, nobody threw – he didn't throw any picks. So this guy, even other high schoolers, right, that's going to happen. Andrew's throwing to high school wide receivers as well, threw no picks. What if this son of a bitch is ready to go?

You know, and the problem is, what if he was waiting for the Colts to find their guy, pay him $100 million so he could go elsewhere? You know, like, of course, he's getting $100 million or whatever from us. Seems like he's all the way back. Him and Frank love each other. Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. What if Andrew's coming back and looking to go somewhere else? They have his rights, right?

Yeah, they do. We do. So they'd have to, like, trade him like Gronk, like they did Gronk and the Patriots or what? Yeah, just like me, by the way. Much different. It's going to take a lot more, I assume. But Chris Ballard has come out on numerous occasions and said, hey, I heard you were thinking about blah, blah, blah. Well, they would have to trade for you. And that's going to take a lot more i assume but chris ballard has come out on numerous occasions and said hey i heard you were thinking about blah blah blah well they would have to trade for you and that's going to be very tough is what chris ballard said i i assume the same for andrew luck

jim ursae told me at the end of our hour and a half conversation in his office when i told him i was retiring and he had a vape and smoke was coming out of his face you know and he brother you know he was like if you ever kick a ball again, you're going to be wearing a horseshoe on your head or whatever. I was like, I don't think I'm going to do it, man, or whatever. I assume he said the same thing to Luck. What does he do now with Carson? And what if Luck does want to come back? I never thought he would.

But I also didn't expect him to want to go to a practice and do stuff in high school. I just he I hope for the sake of NFL, we get a chance to see him play football again. Cause he was so fucking good at football. It was so much fun to watch him play football, but I, up until this point, I thought there was no chance. I mean,

Colts fans would hate to hear it, but he, if he is in Colorado, he's got the Stanford connection with John Elway. Is it possible that the Broncos after this year, like, Hey, listen,

Teddy and drew locker. Okay. But if we can get a fucking Ferrari in Andrew Locke, let's bring him in. Well, he's not just a Ferrari. He's a Ferrari SUV. Yeah, true. He's a big son of a bitch, AJ. I don't think anybody – I was trying to look at his size there in that high school thing. Looked a little thin there from the side, obviously.

But he is a monster of a man, AJ. Giant. I wonder what size helmet he wears. He has a giant, powerful head, man. He really does. Well, and how long would it take him to actually get into football shape? I feel like it wouldn't take him. Two weeks?

Yeah. Remember after he retired, he showed up back, and he was just absolutely yoked? That was not even a month later. Great shoes, Gumpy, by the way. Great shoes. Wore those at SmackDown as well. I'm happy you and me have the same pair.

They're crowd pleasers. But yeah, with the Colts, there was a couple times he would show up and it looked like he was either really small and then a couple months would pass or a month or two would pass and he would be a yoked up Popeye. Then there's always those photos that show up with him in the offseason on like a bike or whatever and his arms are just yoked or what he is i assume he could put that weight back on if he had to but if he ends up at the broncos after peyton ended up at the fucking broncos and they'll only show him in Broncos uniforms.

Boy, that'd be tough for Indiana. How old is Andrew right now? 31, I think. I was thinking probably 31, 30. So young. Hopefully his body's feeling good, too, after all this rest. I mean, that's why I know we may be making a bigger deal than we should,

but the fact that he wanted to go beat around football and actually throw the ball makes me think, all right, he doesn't hate football, that's for sure. Yeah, bingo. And he's also speaking about football to his high school kids, right? Unless he's giving a life speech. Did it just get like a horror film in my head? Oh, yeah.

Super dark. What happened? Lights went out. If he's speaking to those kids about football, he has to have some sort of itch, right? I would think, unless he just loves being around it and wants to go be a volunteer coach with that high school or something moving forward.

But that means, like, hey, I want to get back into it. Oh, maybe I get back into it. I realize, you know, maybe next, like, March I tell people, you know, I think I'm going to do this. I want to make a comeback. That would be sweet. I would love it. I heard he's enjoying the hell out of his family life

from people that talk to him. I've heard he's enjoying the hell out of his family life from people that talk to him. I've heard he's enjoying the hell out of life away from everything. You've got to remember, he's been in the spotlight basically his entire life, not just because of who his dad is, which is an incredibly accomplished businessman in sport and everything like that, but also he was the next

John Elway ever since his freshman year of high school. I think a lot of people have said he has enjoyed his time just living almost, like away from everything, and he enjoys his family. He has a house here still in Indy, I guess, I think is what people say. But if he gets back into football, I will be pumped about it to watch him, but I know there will be a bunch of Colts fans that are not thrilled, not thrilled at all about it.

Hey, I know you weren't uh on the team with him for a super long time but what was he like as like did he hang out with guys was he relatable to teammates like how did his teammates feel about him yeah so i posted a picture of him naked so other than you how the other teammates i didn't get invited to a lot of his things it's a shame a lot of people say. It's a shame. A lot of people say, like, oh, you're an idiot for doing it. It's like, I agree. I almost got fired, and I think the guy hated me forever. I did hear

his parties were a blast. I did hear they were good. I mean, they're much different, I've heard, from other potential quarterbacks' parties. I think, you know, but everybody liked them. I liked them. Everybody liked them. How are they different? What do you mean? What's that? What do you mean they're different different i was invited to one of them it was like um you know ping pong he loves ping pong there's like he's i mean there were good times i mean it

wasn't like nightclubs you know what i mean it was like different things he um he was liked by everybody loved by everybody he was too nice. Does that make sense, AJ? Are you saying he wasn't able to hold guys accountable like, say, Peyton could? Well, I don't know if he wasn't able to hold – I think he had it inside of him, and allegedly towards the end there, he was getting a lot more because Chris Ballard was forcing him to. Allegedly, Chris Ballard was like, hey, you need to start saying more about who and how and why,

is what Chris Ballard came in and told him. Like, hey, we need to start hearing more from you about who you like, who you don't like, why, how, and things like that. So allegedly, this is me not in the building. This is just from people in the building who have told me that Chris Ballard was very much like, hey, Luck, need you to start becoming a little bit more involved in some things that maybe you don't want to get involved in. Because I think Luck always believed, like, I'm a player. The coaches will coach front office or front office. I'm just going to do my thing because that's what you're taught in high school, college, everywhere, right?

But in the NFL, if you're a quarterback, like, you've got to be, like, you have earned the right. You are the president of an operation. Like, you have to be a little bit. And this is just my opinion this is my opinion from watching peyton and then hearing stories of other places now i can't believe they didn't let aaron do this because i thought you had to do this but like i think the quarterback should have a say in who he has on his team because ultimately in the end he's gonna have to be the one that's gonna have to go out there get there when i was with

andrew he was just super nice super kumbaya all good everybody's good whoever you want however you want all good and everything like that and i for one was like hey you need to fucking tell somebody like this guy stinks i don't want him here anymore i don't care where he was drafted i don't care how much we paid him i don't want him here and now i don't know if i'm the right guy to be telling anybody that because i'm just the most like oh oh, yeah, everybody's great. Everybody's a good guy. But I think that is the biggest thing in my eyes that I watched from Andrew that was his only negative. He was incredible at football.

He was smarter than everybody. He was well-prepared. I've told the story of his first day at practice OTAs. He had to go graduate architectural engineer after getting draft number one overall. So he missed a couple weeks of OTAs. The first day he was there, he already knew the entire offense, made a check in the fucking rest of the off. Bruce Aarons was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We are not there yet.

Like, we are not there yet. So it's like he had everything for him to be the greatest. I personally just thought he wasn't a big enough dick, if that makes sense. Well, and to that point, I mean, you could make the case that he'd still be playing here if he would have done that sooner and been like, hey, I'm tired of getting knocked on my ass 60 times every game. Like, we need to address the offensive line and do some shit to protect me. You know, I don't get a lot of credit for a lot of things, you know, but I feel like I was on the, hey, Andrew needs to be a little bit more of a dick train a lot longer than everybody else and then when he retired

because of some of the things he could have been a dick about i thought to myself like andrew's too nice of a guy to a fault too nice of a guy but i wish you would have told somebody like hey this guy stinks all right and whenever people would hit him and he'd say hey nice hit i wish you would say like hey fuck you and i wish you would have told his offense a lot like hey you need to stop letting this guy kill me you know but he's just such a nice guy aj such a nice guy well that's i think that's why people are kind of surprised and impressed by like what we're hearing about mac jones in new england doesn't seem like that dude came in and has grabbed control of that offense,

is talking trash to the defense, to opposing teams in practice. Like, he seems very, very comfortable in that role, which I guess when you look at him, you don't think that. I wonder if that's McDaniels, right? Because, Connor, riddle me this, Connor. Aren't McDaniels and Mac Jones, like, eating dinner together and shit? Yeah, there were reports that before training camp, Mac and McDaniels had a nice little get-together,

a little soiree over at McDaniels, have some wine, some nice little, you know, meat. What? Meat, yeah, pork chops. What? Beer. What? More pork chops.

What? They were having a good time. And the report today was that he actually did take more reps in the 11-on-11s with the ones than Cam Newton did. So there might be a little turn of the tide now that Cam has kind of had that little five-day hiatus. Well, and he beat the shit out of the Giants, right? Like they're saying like perfect day almost for Mac Jones. But to AJ's point, him like demanding accountability out of people, I'd assume McDaniels told him

you're young, but you're a quarterback in the NFL. We're only going to go as you're going to go. If you want something, you've got to do it. Or maybe this is how he's always been. I'm not sure, but if you've got a quarterback doing that already, the rest of the team appreciates that. The rest of the team appreciates that, I think. Don't you think, AJ?

Yeah, they appreciate it and they respect the fact that he has the balls to do it. Like a lot of times you come in, the quarterback's completely different than every other position. But when someone comes in with, especially like he's not like the, he's not the Zach Wilson, you know, moxie guy, like a swag king. He's not that guy, but he is in his own way. Like he has his own Mac, whatever he is, his unique authenticity,

I think is kind of translate. And you hear that from Slater and all these other big time teammates that seem like they only have good things to say about him. That's Slater promo about Mac Jones, Connor. Yeah. Just be splooging all over. Yeah. Massive.

Absolutely soiling my loins. But that's the reason that I think it's gotta be Mac is because if he already has the respect of Slater and the leaders on the team, and to your point about McDaniels, if McDaniels is telling him to act one way, that's one thing. If his team's actually responding to him acting that way as the guy, the starter, the dude who's going to be the face of the franchise, I feel like that goes such a long way.

And obviously it's a bummer for Cam, but Cam knows he's on a one-year deal. He's a placeholder if he is that number one guy. And now that, you know, Mac has clearly proven himself throughout these joint practices and, you know, running laps with the O-line and doing stuff like that, it just seems more and more likely every day that he's going to be walking out there week one.

I wonder, I wonder. Don't get your nips in the shot what's that buddy so don't get your nips in the shot they'll take us down off of youtube we're gone you're demonetized already what fuck um i was thinking maybe it was going to be a generational thing though that there wasn't going to be assholes anymore really yeah i don't know maybe they read more of them because they come if you come up i'm not saying this about mac but other people if they come up kind of entitled don't you think there's more people that feel entitled now like coming up if you're a star yeah i agree but i like i don't know like we listened to kyler murray you know kyler was great for us but i haven't really heard anything about him like oh i guess they say he gets fiery and

everything like that but i think like a big part of being quarterback is you got to be like uh your presence you got to have a presence about you like there's something about when you walk into the room you know they say say a dude commands the attention. Most franchise quarterbacks, they come in and you know, you feel their presence. You need that if you want your quarterback to be an elite guy, I think. Yeah, I agree. I want my guy to be a fucking

asshole. Which is why it's awesome. When he should. Yeah, like when it's time to be that guy, I guess. On the field, you don't want him to – yeah, it's a tough gig. It really is. That's why it's so impressive to hear. How did Green Bay not want Aaron to –

like I don't understand how you guys had so much success over there without your quarterback having any say in anything. They've been asking that for years, Pat. Years. Shows you how good Aaron is, really, don't you think? Yeah. I think so. Hey, I'll deal with whatever you you how good Aaron is, really, don't you think? Yeah. I think so. Hey, I'll deal with whatever you guys give me or whatever, I guess.

But, like, I legit – and maybe it was because I saw Peyton, the way Peyton operated. But, granted, it was at the end of Peyton's run with the Colts I saw him. I just assumed that all those elite guys, you know, like why would you not want their brains? Do people – hey, do you worry about Trevor Lawrence why would you not want their brains? Do people – A, do you worry about Trevor Lawrence when it comes to stuff like this? Like, is he that guy?

Is he that fiery guy that they need? Like, when you need your quarterback to be that person? Well, that's – when I was watching his interviews the other day before Monday Night Football, he was so – congrats to him, by the way, being named starter. Oh, yeah. Big surprise. That stinks for Gardner Minshew.

That guy committed a lot. Yeah. Didn't poop for fucking two months. Sewed that bad boy up. That's like me. Yeah. So you need to take some stool softeners, right? Isn't that what people do?

Five or one. I'm not eating anything, though. I'm not eating. I don't really want to eat anything. You know what I mean? You're not hungry or it makes you sick when you eat? I'm not eating anything, though. I'm not eating anything. I don't really want to eat anything. You know what I mean? You're not hungry or it makes you sick when you eat? I'm not hungry at all. But I got a text from Shane Leckler.

Shane Leckler sent me a text and was like, Hey, if your fat ass loses taste or whatever, just start eating healthy. I lost 20 pounds in two weeks. I was eating kale for the first time in my life. I started dying laughing. Like the most I was eating kale for the first time in my life. I started dying laughing. Like the most Shane Leckler text of all time. Like, hey fat ass, just wanted to make sure you're alright.

You know, but I was watching Trevor Lawrence's interviews before Monday Night Football. Seems like coolest guy of all time. Seems like the coolest dude of all time. Very accomplished. I loved the way he talked about everybody, but I had to wonder, it seems a lot like luck here. You know, like this seems like a lot like luck.

Will he have the ability? And will Urban Meyer even want him to? Since he's doing all that college bullshit I'm hearing. Mm-hmm. Will Urban Meyer even want Trevor to be that type of guy? Because that's not how it is in college at all. Would Trevor even know that that's how he's supposed to be? Because he's in a college like Ron?

I don't know, you know? I think Urban would welcome that. I think any coach would welcome their quarterback kind of taking the reins and taking over, don't you think? Not in Green Bay. I'm talking on the field. Not in New England. Hell no.

On the field, though, like being that person on the field and in the meeting room, not up with the execs working on personnel. that person on the field and in the meeting room, not up with the execs working on personnel. Peyton would get people either jobs or cut from the field. He wouldn't even have to walk up to the, you know, I think Bill Pulley knew exactly what he had. I think that's why Bill came to every practice, just so he could listen to what Peyton said.

All right, he fucking hates this guy. Let's get him out. Seems like that. What did he just say? Loves it. All right. We didn't expect him to make the team, but fucking Peyton seems like him. Let's get him out of here. Seems like that. What did he just say? Loves it. All right. We didn't expect him to make the team, but fucking Peyton seems like him. Let's do it.

I just, I don't fully understand how some of these places operate, but if luck comes back and he's not a Colt, golly, this place will cry. Well, I mean, let's say Carson Wentz comes out there. He's healthy. He plays week one. has a great year, just rolls through the competition, makes a run deep into the playoffs, and then Andrew decides to come back. Then what do we do? Okay, so think about this.

Nobody ever talks about this with Ursae's decision to cut Peyton Manning, right? Because he cut Peyton Manning, and that is something that should be remembered by every NFL player that ever signs up to play in the NFL and gets to the NFL. Peyton Manning. And that is something that should be remembered by every NFL player that ever signs up to play in the NFL and gets to the NFL. Peyton Manning got cut. Alright, so that is insane to think about. But he was also coming

out of that... I don't think he could grip a football fully. He had nerve damage. Yeah, we didn't know if he could throw, right? Yeah, nobody knew. And also, it was during the thing when nobody we weren't allowed to talk to the team. Oh, it was the lockout? During the lockout. So, Ursa had to make this decision on, from what he has heard about where Peyton's at,

I think there was like a $30 million bonus that was coming or something like that that would have been owed. And Andrew Luck is sitting there. Okay, soim ursa had to make a very difficult decision like that's the nfl billionaires are gonna have to make difficult decisions i mean ursa asked me if i was ready to make tough decisions whenever i decided to hang it up and run my own operation or whatever like do you want to rent a 747 and live like a sheik or do you want to go get a goddamn cruise ship down the caribbean there's some big decisions that have to be made. I don't know, he says, but that was one of them. Imagine if Carson does very well

this year, makes playoffs, and then Andrew's like, hey, I want to come back. Jim Irsay's like, brother, what the fuck? That would be awesome. That would put them in a tough spot, wouldn't it? What's that? It said it would definitely put them in a tough spot, but Pat, we have going to, we,

we have not taken a break yet in this hour. I believe, right? Z. We have not. All right, Pat, we're going to go to break. You're definitely going to come back on with us.

We'll dial you back up after the break. Is that all right? You feeling good? You look good. I appreciate that. I feel good. I don't, at what point am I allowed to just go roam in public and be in a

unicorn? Is that now? Today, right? This afternoon, I think. I'll tell you what people are going to look at me differently now though I think you know

no now they're going to be like pumped like I think your worry should be oh shit people might come up and hug me because they know that I'm an immunocom I can't transfer anything for all football season by the way hell yeah let's go

that's a nice firm cowboy for all football season, by the way. Hell yeah. Let's go. Let's go, AJ. That's a nice, firm cowboy. I like that. You could swim in it right now for all. After you get the vax and you're an unicorn, you could swim in a pool of COVID-19 and be fine. Hey, so sorry to interrupt this conversation. That's cooking right now.

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like the sleep one because if not i'm up up all goddamn night. Back to the show. So, boys, I don't know exactly how you feel about this, but when I saw Andrew Luck obviously always dressed to the nines, looks amazing. I love this dude. Everything about him, like his stubble that he always has, his half beard, his hair always seems to be ruffled about. The dude is just an absolute giant of a human, too, that these pictures don't show.

Andrew Luck in person is a big old dude, and he took a lot of damage while he played, a big reason why he stepped away. But does this get you guys? So for people that don't know, Andrew was out in Colorado, I guess. He decided to contact the head coach of a high school team and wanted to come back and, what, join him at practice or just help him work on some things? Do you guys know exactly what he was doing? I mean, he joined him because he was throwing, I believe.

In 7-on-7, right? In 7-on-7, yeah. Apparently, he almost threw an interception to somebody, just throwing that out there. But I think the last thing – oh, look at those shorts. Yeah, he got the zip-off pants shorts. Absolute classics. But apparently – or not apparently,

I believe that probably the worst thing for the Colts right now would be to bring back Andrew Luck for Carson Wentz. It's the whole guy's thing. If someone's behind him, he kind of gets worried, or at least that's what happened last year. But he's definitely not in football shape. It's not like you see him and you think, oh, that guy's about to make a comeback, do you?

I don't know. That's a comeback. I don't know. That's loose clothing. I don't know. He looks like a beanpole. I mean, yeah, you never know exactly what he looks like. I would say it's better that gives a better chance coming back looking like this than if you gained 50 pounds, don't you think? Yeah, absolutely. But he does.

I mean, from that photo right there, he looks like the number one architect in the world. I don't know why you would leave that gig. Yeah, but like probably. He's probably well on his way to that, don't you think, Diggs? Yeah, absolutely. And as you said, that was my favorite part about this whole thing is that he does have the zip off pants ready to go. Just in case like Dory seven on seven, he got a little too hot or like things got ratcheted up too much and he had to fucking zip off the bottom. So he was ready to go.

Yeah, but what do you think made him want to jump out and do this this guy it's unbelievable i have a lot of respect for how he could walk away and then just basically disappear like he i don't know where he's living exactly what he's doing because the guy does not he doesn't pop up like this is the first time i've seen him pop up in a long time this is definitely the first time i've seen him pop up where he's doing something football related right right? Yeah, definitely. I mean, I'm sure he just woke up in the morning and was like, fuck, I want to spin it today so bad. Who can I call? Maybe. I mean, no one's going to turn

it down. I think he was probably watching old Cicely Ono on NFL Network recording live from different camps. He's like, man, I can still spin this thing, I bet. That's probably a good point. You think Andrew Luck watches NFL Network? He may not even know that there is an NFL Network. I agree with you a thousand percent.

To your point, though, he might have seen Cisleano spinning the rock somewhere on NFL Network, but I don't think he's coming back anytime soon. It's good to see him, though. I'm glad he's doing well and he looks healthy. I'm saying next year. I'm not saying right now. This year. I'm saying this gave me hope because I'm a big Andrew Luck fan.

Hey, maybe he's just trying to get a feel for it, see what's going on. If he hated football, he wouldn't go throw with these high schoolers. I'm sure I'm making a much bigger deal out of this than I should. I get excited. I'm a big fan for him. Where there's smoke, there's fire. This is definitely something like if he had an itch

and then went to 7-on-7 and threw, that itch is only went to seven on seven and through, that itch is only going to grow for him to come back and play. Why do you love Andrew Luck so much, though? I don't know. I think when he got drafted, when he came out, I was like, I feel comfortable right now paying this dude, making him my franchise QB before he really even played.

And definitely after he went through his rookie year, I felt really comfortable. Okay, the Colts got their guy for sure. I don't know why. I love guys that are uniquely themselves and authentic, and I think Andrew is that guy. He's so unique and different and weird, and he's so good at football at the same time, and he's so tough. I think that's a big reason why I have a lot of respect for him.

The dude's tough as nails, man. He's getting blasted, complimenting the guys, helping them up during the game. I just like how he kind of carries himself. He he rides his bike around oh yeah book in his back pocket like what a what a unique dude for the whole nfl landscape there's not a whole lot of guys like that well and this is kind of like uh similar to like the farv situation right after he retired he went down to that high school in mississippi and was like you know fuck it i'm gonna sling it around the yard a little bit and completed a few passes and was like, you know, fuck it. I'm going to sling it around the yard a little bit and completed a few passes

and was like, shit, I still fucking got it. I'm going to go back and play. And that's what happened. Yeah, he said, I'm going to come back. And they said, sorry, boss, we moved on. We have Aaron Rodgers here. I was there during that time, and he was traded to the Jets right then. No, I thought this was after like the – well, maybe it was.

I thought that was like the second quasi-retirement where then he came back and went to the Vikings. I don't quite remember, but I know he was like the second quasi-retirement where then he came back and went to the Vikings. I don't quite remember, but I know he was down in Mississippi breaking kids' fingers at a high school practice, throwing them bullets. He was coaching, I think, or he was going to practice. His nephew, I believe, was the quarterback down there at his alma mater. I think his brother may have – Brett's brother may have been the coach. And his nephew could sling it, I guess.

I think they won the state championship yeah he was out there like so yeah who knows like is that what reignited his fire and ties equating that to andrew luck going to this seven on or this high school practice well you see the young kids and you just can feel how much they love the game and i'm sure that reinvigorates you remind you why you wanted to play initially i'm sure you're going through the same thing right now, coaching your kids. It's like, fuck, I'd love to play on Sundays again. Yeah, man, you're right. When I'm around these little kids, these 8- to 10-year-olds,

and we're doing tackling drills, you know what? Sometimes I do want to get in there and strap a helmet on. It would be nice to be able to hit somebody right now. And even at the same time, it would be nice to get hit. When you take a big shot and you realize you're fine, I think that's a good feeling. I think kids all need to get that. I, we talk about that when the kids I'm coaching, they'll get blasted and something will happen. I'm like, Hey man, pop up. And then you look at him like, you're all right. And they say, yeah, okay, well you're not going to get that hit that hard very often.

And look, you're fine. What's the worst that can happen? You got all these pads on, you're going to be fine. I think that's, what's cool about football when kids realize, Oh, I can take these big shots that look really bad, but I'm going to be fine coming out the end hopefully. Yeah, definitely don't put the pads on and absolutely eviscerate kids on your Clemson team because that would be probably the worst case scenario. But do you think players ever lose that? I feel like no matter what, even Vrabel right now,

if he could put the pads on, he would. He does. Yeah, he does. Vrabel's still sticking if he could put the pads on, he would. He does. Yeah, he does. Vrabel's still sticking his head in there with a D lineman, an O lineman, and goes to pro days, and he's working these guys out with his hand, putting his hands all over these dudes, getting head-butted in the forehead. I used to work out with Vrabel back in the day, and he came in one day, and he had the biggest, like his face had exploded.

His nose was five times the size. He had the biggest, like, face had exploded. His nose was five times the size. He had the biggest like black eye. His whole face was black. I'm like, man, what happened? He's like, ah, Carter, my son, I was pitching to him. He took a fastball directly off his bat right back at me. And he was like, I wasn't 60 feet away either, but it was nasty. He took a brutal shot.

But Vrabel was like, ah, he was fine. He was working out. Everything's all good. And he was laughing about it. So it's not surprising that he throws his head around in there with D. Brutal shot, but that's – he was fine. He was working out. Everything's all good, and he was laughing about it. So it's not surprising that he throws his head around in there with D. Lyman in the NFL when they have helmets on, and he obviously is in his coaching gear. Well, and clearly, like to our guest yesterday, Bobby Carpenter, he might make a comeback any day now just because he feels like he stays ready

and he still works out and practices with Ohio State. It just seems like you never really lose that itch, and maybe. Do you, Connor? You know. You played high school for seven years. Did you lose that itch? I put the pads on Dan there every night just to feel like what it was back in the day. I'll throw my helmet on and shove it into a wall just to get that invigorating feeling again.

So maybe Andy Luck does come back next year and start slinging it for the Colts again. That's right. Andy Luck and Bubby Carpenter, right? Yeah, Andy and Bubby, I mean, they would be a dynamic duo. Maybe Bubby switches to running back and he makes a play. Maybe a Tebow-esque switch. Bobby's playing tailback and he's – well, Bobby's lean now,

but he's still gigantic. I don't want to try to take that dude down. So, yeah, maybe if he gets out there and bowl practice with the Buckeyes, he can get the ball. Maybe they'll let him get the ball in his hands a few times. He can really show those coaches what he can do on the offensive side of the ball, I guess. Oh, yeah, but they might be nervous.

They don't want Bobby Carpenter taking out every single starting linebacker, D lineman, as he runs through them. That would probably be a situation like you practicing with your kid's team. Oh, yeah. I mean, I would do that. Bobby, he would physically assault a lot of people on the football field, I'm sure, if he was out there with the Buckeyes. But talking about people getting knocked out, what is Jake Paul doing?

So Jake Paul fights Tyron Woodley this weekend in Cleveland, his hometown, at the basketball arena, right? Yeah, Sunday night. Man, so that's good. It's Sunday night. Oh, cool. So that's going to be, I assume, it's sold out. Do we know? I would assume so. I was looking at some tickets

the other day. There's still some available. What are the odds on this fight? Jake Paul is minus 215. Tyron Woodley, plus 164. Wow. So? Jake Paul is minus 215. Tyron Woodley plus 164. Wow. Jake Paul, I know he's out there. They had open workouts. Who knows?

I know people feel real strong one way or the other about Jake Paul and what he's doing. I'll tell you what. He gets people to watch boxing for some reason. We had him on the show a week or two ago, I know. I know he's already set up his next fight. Is he Conor McGregor of these, like, YouTube boxers? He was talking trash on Jorge Masvidal and saying he wants to knock him out next, didn't he?

Yeah. Which is interesting just because Jorge Masvidal was helping him prepare for the Aspen fight, but Masvidal and Woodley share the same manager or something, so now he's kind of talking shit on Masvidal. I'm not going to say he's biting off more than he can chew because who knows he might come out and knock tyron woodley out right away and you know that that could go that way and then he has to fight mosfet all but you got to think he has some sort of confidence because it is boxing and these guys are ufc dudes and he wouldn't just

be running his mouth for no reason well and i think it's hard like he he told us like he's a big fucking dude he's's bigger than Lowe. Masvidal and Woodley, they were both welterweights. Those guys fought at 170 pounds. Granted, it's a catchweight fight, but also I think everyone wants him to lose so badly. What is he, minus 230? That's massive liability if he were to lose like i think there's a reason he's that big of a favorite yeah he's 215 tyron woodley's 164 i put in a little bit on the dog

just because like you have no idea what's going to happen in this fight so if you're going to give me plus money i'll take some of it and tyron if people have watched tyron when he yeah he's not what he used to be but man the dude is explosive yeah he looks in great shape yeah see the workouts woodley's actually also in shape he's not like a sack of bones like askren was walking in there dude like come on woodley's always been like a much better striker than askren ben askren was known like he wasn't much of a striker woodley's yeah he's always always pretty jack so who knows if people are i would assume it'll get big numbers speaking of things that people a lot of people don't care about,

what's going on with Ronaldo? He's switching teams? It's almost done from the sounds of things. They want $25 million for him, but Man City is trying to just give them a player instead because they don't want to pay $25 million for a guy who's almost 37 years old. But if that gets done, he grew up playing for Manchester United. Manchester will absolutely

explode aj so it let me know is ronaldo still i know he's 37 is he still like when he's playing is he the best player on the field he's still got the juice he's still god he's ronaldo yeah so he legit is still scoring goals still making plays he's never a liability no not at all he'll be he'll be very good for man city how so has he just been this uh he's been like the best soccer player for the last 15 20 years like it seems like forever yeah it's been him and messy forever and now they're both on different teams and they just had the champions league draw and psg and man city are in the same group so messing ronaldo possibly play each other in the champions league as well. I would love to know how you keep track of all of this stuff.

The different leagues, they move around. There's no offseason. They seem to play 12 months a year. They're on a different team depending on what time of the year it is. How in the world do you keep it all aligned in your head? That's what makes it so incredible what Messi and Ronaldo have done because there's no offseason, AJ. They literally just keep going and going. They probably take two three weeks off a year and

they don't get hurt like has any of them missed significant time with like ACLs or anything no Ronaldo missed a bit of time when he had COVID but he was still like training videos the whole time he had COVID saying he was fine is Ronaldo a human I watched that documentary on him that dude like everything about it he didn't have like kind of a tough upbringing or his dad pushed him hard and he was like he was a stud but his life now like he is such an international superstar is is he like does he understand like i don't know how is he with his teammates so his teammates all speak like they always speak of him like people speak of Tom Brady? People used to not speak that well of him. But when Portugal won the, it was either the Euros or the World Cup,

he came off hurt. And he basically, like, turned into the coach of the team. And that's when everybody was kind of like, this guy's the man. Like, he loves scoring goals, obviously, the way he celebrates. That's how soccer players are when they score. But him and Messi have just had incredible careers. And they'll just keep going until they can't anymore. They'll up in the mls when they get older and they'll still do well over there hell yeah doesn't he try to i feel like he is very secretive or very private which is his

right then he like some of his kids like he doesn't say like who the mom is there was a story that came out that he something with like a bar waitress who had a kid, and he basically paid this woman a certain amount of money to have the kid, and he just took the kid from her. That's a story. I don't know if it's true or not. Well, wouldn't you want to be private if you were slinging your salami all over the world and maybe had a bunch of kids like that Delivery Man movie with Vince Vaughn?

Starbucks. Starbucks. Wait, what is the delivery man movie he like goes to a sperm bank and then like later finds out like he's the dad of what he's he's donated sperm and he has like a thousand kids or something it's a good i do remember that there's a real story i was watching a uh so you know youtube got me there was a real doctor that was doing that where all of a sudden i realized he was like a fertility clinic doctor and they found out years later that this

dude was just busting loads and he was the dad of all these people. Jesus Christ, AJ. Seems illegal to me, right? So he was contaminating the samples that they already had there? I think he was putting his samples in when they had, like he was claiming it was other people's samples, but it was his samples, I guess

because he knew he was, he knew he had some powerful stuff, I guess. Can you stop saying, you know, he knew and just admit that it was you and that you are actually the father of 800 people? I'm not a doctor. And did this guy's testes weigh 65 pounds if he has

like over a thousand kids? It was a general Bob. Bobby. This guy's like the modern day Genghis Khan. Didn't he father 25,000 people or something? Something like that. But shit, this guy had a... His granddaughter went to my high school,

and yeah, that dude's in prison for a long time. Oh, the guy that was fathering all the kids from the fertility clinic? That was in Indiana? That's a Carmel, Indiana thing, yeah. And wasn't Jared Fogle right down the road, too? Probably. You tell us. You used to hang out at his house all the time. He's on your speed now.

You guys are the ones that met him. You were in a VIP with Jared Fogle. No, never. That was Guy Fieri, and he spit in our face. Boom. You tell me he really spit in your face? Boom. You tell me he really spit in your face? Basically. Metaphorically.

Well, he was going to make one of you famous, though. Not one. Don't. All of you. He basically said, Pat, you can come into the RVIP. Those fucking mutts over there. I have to stay out. So did Pat go?

Did Pat go join Guy and just wave at you from the VIP? Yeah, come on over here. I'll make you famous. Your mutt's got a stick over there in the corner. Would you guys bust your way in there? You were probably there, actually. It was the night before the Derby. I thought I saw you fucking in the back, like, behind Guy, like, giving him a sign.

Guy, take a picture of me, Guy, please. Yeah, I know there's a video of you saying that. Not the night before, but the day of the derby. I have seen Guy there a few times, actually. So I'm sure I probably saw him 12 hours after he was partying with you guys. Well, wasn't it TMZ posted that picture of you and him drinking donkey sauce out of two

taps at the bar? I could have sworn you sent me that. Maybe not. I don't know. Obviously false. But first off, I don't know what donkey sauce is. You know what donkey sauce is. That's Guy's signature sauce. I know Triple D, man. Din false, but first off, I don't know what donkey sauce is. I don't know what donkey sauce is. That's Guy's signature sauce. I know Triple D, man. Diners, drive-ins, and dives. That's

Guy to me, right? Triple G, too. What is that? Guy's grocery games. That's right. Is that still running? Yeah. I think it's way more popular now than Triple D actually. Who is Guy's NFL team?

I think I've seen Raiders. Raiders. I saw him in a Seahawks game, I feel like. Well, he's at like damn near every game just because he is one of those sellouts that will support whoever's on top. Anytime he can get his face on camera, he'll be there. We're Big Guy Fieri Show, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Love Guy. Thank you, Guy. Love your coffee sauce. Thank you, Guy. Big Guy. I know Diggs is a big Mario Batali guy, but we're going to move on and see what else is going on throughout the NFL. So, what did Dwayne Haskins

say? Dwayne Haskins, you think he took a shot at Washington? Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Diggs, you're a big Steelers guy. This was definitely a compliment to Mike Tomlin, but also taking a shot. So, Dwayne Haskins, I guess, was asked by a reporter, whatever's going on, he said, I think that Coach Tomlin does a great job as far as giving you a scouting report of who you're playing that week and then this is the part I've never really had that before yeah I don't I don't

think it's a compliment to Tomlin at all because you get you get scouting reports in high school you've got reports in junior high like there's no way this is true, AJ. Well, no, I took it as, I interpreted this as Dwayne saying, like, Tomlin has given me, for the first time, like, a scouting report that actually helps me. Where it's not just like, okay, hey, this guy, this DN, 6'4", 285, long, rangy, doesn't like to bull rush. Like, that's the scouting report I assume that he claims he was getting. And now he's getting real tips on this is what we need to do. This is how you can attack these certain guys.

This is the matchup you want to look for. I assume it's just more detailed and it's actually something that he could take to the field. I assume that every single NFL team did that. Is that not true? There's tons of scouting reports, yeah. Starting Wednesday morning, they'll hand a bunch of them out. And usually even earlier than that, if you're the quarterback, you're there meeting with the coach on Tuesday on the off day

and going over game plan. Yeah, I guess some are better than others, though. A lot of coaches give tests like the night before a game to their position groups, different coaches, like how they try to make sure their guys know what's going on. Some coaches, that's the difference. Some coaches want to give a test just to try to show like, okay, who's not studying, who's not watching film, who's not prepared. And I think the good coaches, they try to give tests

or they try to give information to their players that they can digest and use to help them make plays. And then when a player feels that and knows like, hey, this guy can help me. He's not doing this to punish me. He can help me. Everything he's doing is to make me put myself in position to make plays where i can anticipate things in the field then you trust that coach more and you'll you'll go with it maybe that's what duane is saying right here if you're a quarterback though isn't a lot

of that on you i mean i know like i don't know if you know him at all or have heard anything but like pat talks about all the time like the amount amount of preparation that Peyton would put in like the week of a game, like the truly elite guys, like they're not relying on a scouting report to do everything right. Like they're dissecting stuff. They're trying to find stuff, watching film. Like I feel like that's kind of a cop out, isn't it? Yeah, especially like the guys that have been doing it for a long time. In the NFL, they have their own system, their own program, but they're working with their quarterback coach, their offensive coordinator, their head coach, and they're bouncing ideas off each other the whole time. But, yeah, they've already done the majority of their study, and they have their opinions on what they can do to attack them,

and then they get the game plan from the coach, and they go with it and see what you agree on, what you disagree on. So you're right. When you're an NFL quarterback, a lot of it is on you and your backups to kind of maybe do some of the grunt labor that you may not have the time for so you can reference it, I guess, when you're looking at things. But I don't know. Dwayne Haskins, is he going to make this team?

Is he going to be the backup? Where are you guys at with that? I mean, it definitely seems like he's making the team if he's starting the last preseason game, right? Or they want to showcase him. Ben and Mason are not starting. And it's reporting that Mason is most likely 99% going to be the number two. I don't know if it is definite that he's going to make the team.

I personally think he should make the team. But apparently this last game with him and Dobbs is going to be probably the guy who's going to be number three. But it would be weird if – Will they keep three? No, I mean, they'll keep them what you could roster them roster them right not on the 53 can you practice you could practice squad him he's young is that still going to how are the practice squad rules now are they still on the covid rules

or like anyone can practice squad i don't know i think they still have that rule where you can uh send guys down and bring them up like three times i I think, during the season. And I think it's still – is it not 55? Did they not keep it 55? Well, and they increased the number of people that can be on the practice squad, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they've changed a bunch of rules.

But with this – back to the whole like warm-up kind of pregame, whatever, the prep for the game. Is he trying to say that at Ohio State you guys didn't do any game planning? It was just go out there and let the talent take over? Let the athletes be athletes? I don't know. Is he taking a shot at Ryan Day and Urban Meyer here too, you think? Is that what you're reading? I mean, I don't know. You tell me. Are they doing that over there? Less thinking, more athlete doing. We know Sirianni. Doesn't Sirianni give super detailed game plans to his guys? I know Ty knows about that.

I mean, I would imagine so. I'm hoping that we're going to get to figure out if he does give these. I'm sure we'll hear about it. If he does, I can almost guarantee we will. AJ, I always figured like you would get a game plan or not a game plan or scouting report or whatever to be like this team on third down loves to do this. Like I figured it always very detailed. That was just my assumption.

Yeah. Yeah, it's always very detailed. That was just my assumption. Yeah, it's definitely very detailed, but I think at least for myself personally, when I find something on my own with the film study I would do and how I would want to study offenses and how they're trying to attack us, I always learn better too if I saw it first. If I didn't read it, okay, here we go. Third down, they like to do this, and then you try to go find that. I don't know.

I feel like when you find it out on your own when you seek that and you you kind of put together what you see before you get that game plan i think that's beneficial because then you can kind of see which matches up and then i at least for myself i'd a lot better recall that way than just reading and trying to remember what somebody had told me to put on like an outline i guess what about school you guys that way in school you guys you guys cram for tests i mean i don't know this must be there might be a rough crowd to ask i know you guys handled schooling but what do you mean i never crammed i was always studying basically after every class it was like okay we got a test in three weeks we might as well start studying now or else we'll be screwed if i uh you're setting up study groups connor oh yeah

oh i was the leader of the study groups, AJ. You have no clue, dude. If I was handwriting notes, I retained stuff a lot easier than if I was typing them on a computer. That's a great point. That's exactly – I think I've said that on here. I would always handwrite everything. And when we would reinstall our defense, which twice a year usually in the spring and then back in training camp, I would rewrite everything just because that's how I retain it.

That's how I remember it. I obviously can go back and look at it and reference it, but a lot of times when you write it down, if you're engaged and you're actually there and you're present, at least for me, I don't know how other people are, I remember it a lot better when I do actually physically write it down. I'm not sure, but if I type it up, yeah, maybe I'd still get some of it, but probably not as much as I do physically writing.

AJ, like the first practice of the week, did they like come out and have the scout team line up in the other team's formations and then say like this is what they like to do out of these formations? And then like as the week went on, you would actually practice again? Like they would have the cards obviously and run that stuff? Yeah, it's a progression. Your first meeting on Wednesday morning, they're going to go over the game plan, and different coaches would get up and present different things.

One coach would always be, hey, this is first and 10. This is what they're doing. All right, here's second and medium. Here, this coach does red zone. They go over what their favorite things are. Usually coaches do a good job, the good ones at least, of narrowing it down to where it's digestible. Because if you have four coaches presenting to a whole defensive room

and they're telling you all these different segments, what they can do, it's tough to retain all of that. So they'd say, okay, out of this formation in the red zone, these are the three route combinations you're likely to get here on play side. And to the boundary, this is what you may get. And then what you take it from there, you go to walk through, you walk through it, you get a look at it with no pads on and walking, and then you go have another walk through with your pads on,

and then you practice that, and that's just Wednesday. And then you do that same thing Thursday, Friday, Saturday is like a quick walk through slash like feel good day, and then you hopefully you have all that locked in, and you go into the game Sunday. Well, and they're going like how far back do they go like if you're playing a team week eight are they going all the way back to week one to like dissect each and every you know situation like you were just talking about or they go like recency last three weeks this is what they've been doing

versus the entire yeah each team has their own way but usually I know a lot of teams will have, they'll break down their four previous games. So they'll have those all broken down into segments. And all of the other games that they've played are out there. But for this game plan, this report that they give you is usually on their four previous games depending on which staff is there. But yeah, they'll definitely, if they have trick plays, if they have things they ran, say it's week 12 and week one,

they ran some weird, crazy reverse. They're going to show that to you, all the tricks and gadgets. That's another segment that you should go over on Fridays maybe. You kind of go over all their weird plays they may run. But that's the thing though. How do you retain it? Every guy is different. They want to tell you how you're supposed to study, how you should learn.

I'm like, well, as a professional, you've got to figure out how you learn the best to where you're going to be out there in the field. The coaches aren't going to be there with you. Don't let them try to tell you how to learn. You've got to figure that out on your own from talking to other teammates. That's what I did. I know how I learned the best, and I would watch other guys and ask them what they did.

Then I would take the good and flush the bad and say, all right, well. them what they did and then I would take the good and flush the bad and say all right well now I'm sure you guys realize I I learned a lot of things from seeing what not to do like I have a lot of notes from my time in the league that I would write down of what not to do like as a leader or as a coach or if you're doing this and I think a lot of times you learn the most when you see what you don't want to be and you see how players react when things uh when a coach like presents something a certain way or handles a situation some way when did you first get uh issued an ipad for film and did that change like did that drastically change stuff moving forward guys like holy shit this is incredible it did change a lot because you have that with you at all times you

don't have to before that i mean maybe when i got in the league we first – I don't think we had VHSs then. We were on DVDs, obviously. Jeez. But you'd have to go get a DVD made from the film guy. Tell him, hey, can I get Red Zone, Third and Medium, and Gold Line here and this, and then you'd have to ask for it. Then you get an iPad. I don't know what year it was, though, exactly.

2012, does that sound right, maybe? Yeah, maybe. Probably around then. Would you watch like when you were watching film and you were playing you know let's just say you're playing the lions the next week would you watch more so like the what the lions are doing or would you watch the team that they're playing what their linebackers were either screwing up or doing right a little both usually you're watching what the lions are doing um because depending on what that the the

other defense is doing like it may be completely different from what you guys run but if you do that's one way coaches will break down film if you have let's say this team that you're playing they played against another defense that had a very similar scheme to your defense that you're going to watch that whole game you're going to watch a lot of that because you want to see how they're trying to attack that scheme so that happens all the time. You don't really watch individual players as much, like on the defense, if I'm trying to study their offense. You're definitely aware of what they're

doing, but you can sometimes get locked in, especially if there's multiple players in there and a defense is playing really bad. Say your defensive guy is studying the field. Man, these guys are garbage. What are they doing? We're not going to do this. It doesn't matter. They weren't going to win no matter what they were doing, and guys love to just trash teams when they're playing bad,

but that obviously isn't going to help you out too much on the field on Sunday, I guess. Well, everyone loves to trash the Lions. Oh, yeah. Who doesn't? I'm not speaking Lions. Didn't you make it a point, though, whether or not you were playing against them? You would watch every single one of Bill Romanowski's snaps until he retired,

right, just because I know you tried to emulate your game after him. Let me tell you something. So I read Romo's book. I read his book, great book, colorful character. Was he on this show? Oh, yeah. Friend of the program.

Lighting it up. All kind of supplements, all kinds of stuff. I know a guy that coached him when he was on the Raiders and said, man, this dude was awesome. He loved everything about him, but this coach was also there, I guess, when he knocked that tight end out. Oh, yeah. He took his helmet off and hit him.

Yeah, broke his orbital bone. Yeah, I heard. I talked to a coach that was there, and they said it was nasty. Like when that happened, it happened so quickly too. But, yeah, Roman Askey, some of the younger kids may not know some of his antics, said it was nasty like when that happened it happened so quickly too um but yeah roman asky some of the younger kids may not know some of his antics but he was uh is he a throwback would you call him a throwback oh yeah for sure plus if the iron kids don't know they saw him in longest yard yeah they know what type of player he is has he been in other movies i feel like he was really

starting to like he was really starting to his spread his wings as an actor in that movie wasn't he in red dawn was that roman he was in something else that was uh schlereth yeah that was stink was he in gridiron gang too um the rock not sure let's see here he's i'm pulling up his imdb was he in the marine with uh cena no no victor conte from the uhko there. Who did? Romanowski. Oh, was he tied to Belko? Yeah, I was on like 60 Minutes. Number one client. I think he's been in a couple like he's been in Blended and Jack and Jill.

He's a Sandler guy. He's in the Sandler crew. Yeah, that's what I saw. I'm in a Sandler movie. Jack and Jill, I don't know if I saw that. Romanowski is one of those. He played for what? 17, 18 years? He played forever.

Long time. Legend. He won a couple. How many Super Bowls did he win? A few. He was with the Raiders. And the Broncos. He was all over.

He was in the Niners early in his career, wasn't he? Mm-hmm. Jeez. I love him. And he did bounce around. He's got four rings. Yeah. Four.

Does he have two with Denver, I'm guessing? Yeah. He also, apparently, too. Four. Does he have two with Denver, I'm guessing? Yeah, he also apparently, I didn't know this, he also sent a 30-page PowerPoint presentation to Pat Bolin when the Broncos were looking for a head coach in 2009. He lost out to McDaniels, unfortunately. Wait, hold on. Romo sent his resume in for him to be the head coach? Yeah, it was not just his resume.

It was a 30-page PowerPoint presentation. Wow. I would like to see that deck. I wonder if he used the transitions. Did he use the tire screeching transitions? That would be nice. I would assume so. I would assume so.

Yeah, he's a creative guy. I would definitely assume he had a bunch of sweet transitions. One of the dissolving ones that pops up. Tiles. He spent all of his time on the transitions and not the actual, you know, the deck. That'd be awesome. Bunch of pictures. All right, that's the show.

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