The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 483 - Jameis Named The Starter In New Orleans, Ross Tucker, The Fantasy Footballers, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: August 27, 2021On today's show, Pat is still out of the office, but calls into the show to chat with AJ and the boys about Scott Zolak's comments on Cam Newton allegedly dancing too much at practice, and if that's a... cause for him not performing up to expectations, the news that Jameis is more than likely going to be the starting Quarterback for the Saints this year, and what that means for Taysom Hill moving forward, and all the different preseason action that we have this weekend as we lead into a dead week before the start of the NFL season. Joining the show is former NFL offensive lineman, host of The Ross Tucker Football Podcast, and color commentator for Philadelphia Eagles preseason games, Ross Tucker, to chat about what he's seen from the Eagles so far and what he thinks a realistic expectation for them is, his thoughts on Nick Sirianni, Jalen Hurts' development, and his thoughts on Jadeveon Clowney saying that guards aren't athletic and he wants to line up inside more (23:12-42:31). Later, Mike Wright of the Fantasy Footballers podcast joins the show to chat about sleepers, breakout players, who he thinks the best rookie will be, who he's picking #1, and everything else you need to know if you're going into a fantasy football draft in the next week or so (1:25:59-1:44:07). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, it is Friday, August 27th.
You are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0.
Pat's still on the mend at home,
but he calls in today for a conversation with AJ.
Ross Tucker also joins the show.
We talk a little fantasy football.
Jameis Winston has been named the starting quarterback
for the Saints.
A lot of NFL chatter on this feel-good Friday.
Let's get right into it.
I am A.J. Hawks. See that for Pat, who is battling COVID at the moment.
Yeah, that may be it. Hell yeah. Still pretty early, boys, but hey, we'll figure it out. This
is my third day running it from over here in Ohio. I know the boys are back in Indianapolis,
seem to be doing well. I'm sure the Hammerdown boys are getting all their stuff situated for their show.
That will be on 15 minutes after this show today, I believe.
I hope you guys are still running on this Friday.
Thank you, AJ.
And Pat, his weary state.
Has anyone got any more updates from him?
I know I've talked to him.
He's coming in waves.
He's going up and down with his fever.
Where is he at right now?
I think he is doing much better this morning.
He said he's pretty congested, but same deal.
I don't think he had – last time we talked to him,
he didn't have a fever this morning.
So hopefully we're on the other side of this thing.
All right.
Yeah, I think Patty even texted me.
He said, I think this is the final stage.
And I sent a text back and I said, before death?
Question mark? No.
He hasn't gotten back to me so I don't know yet.
Hopefully he's reached out to you guys. You scumbag, dude.
You did this. You fucking did this
yesterday. I told you not to do it so
quit doing it. Knock it off.
Keep pointing at me, boy. I love it.
Oh yeah, now you continue to point at me.
Continue, please. And Diggs, you probably
gave him COVID, bud.
You probably gave him COVID.
I'm an immunocorn first and foremost.
You don't know that.
Have you been tested for antibodies lately?
What?
Okay.
That's all the answer we need.
That's a no.
The antibodies course
through these veins, okay?
I had it. I beat it, okay?
And secondly, i tested negative so
what's up fucking comment me pal okay all right i'll back off a little bit we'll look we'll look
around to the uh the nfl landscape see what's happening i know there are uh preseason games
week three it's gonna get wild people say there might be some games where the threes are playing
against the ones and guess what 12 30 we're30, we're going to have Ross Tucker.
He's going to join us.
Let us know.
He's calling the Jets-Eagles game tonight.
And I know he wants to talk about anything.
He's open for any kind of constructive criticism.
I, too, from the boys, he did tell me he was aware that maybe the boys had an issue with
some of the chatter he had going back and forth with his last preseason game.
He was working with whoever his play-by-play guy is.
Are you guys going to ask him about this?
He was fine the last preseason game.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know.
Whatever I may have said last Friday might have been an overreaction.
All right, pal?
So I'm not going to bring that up.
I mean, Russ Tucker's a patriot.
Come on.
Play for New England.
I love the guy.
Okay.
All right, Connor.
We understand.
We'll see what happens when we get Russ Tucker here at 1230.
But I think some of the biggest news probably, which I thought, to me,
I was assuming this was probably going to happen, but Jameis Winston.
As Sean Payton said, is he officially the starter?
Okay, here we go.
Ian Rappaport says, The Saints have not yet made an official announcement,
but all signs point to QB Jameis Winston being their starter.
Sources say given the way he played last week, this is not a surprise.
It will also allow Taysom Hill to fill his valuable gadget do-everything role.
But does Taysom Hill want that role still, and is he willing to do that role?
Have we heard anything?
No.
Well, there was like a massive congratulations apparently in the locker room around uh jamis yesterday so although he doesn't officially say it apparently it is definitely official that jamis is the starter
but to your point i don't know if tame uh tasem is all of a sudden just going to walk back his
comments because he said i think it was last week maybe it was even earlier in the week that
you know he views himself as a QB1.
If the Saints don't, then he's basically just got to figure out a way to get out of there.
So I don't know what's going to happen.
They definitely need him, especially with those two tight ends getting hurt too.
But it'll be interesting to see.
Definitely a developing situation in New Orleans.
Do you think this is ultimately kind of on Sean Payton because he said he's my Steve Young
and he kind of set these almost unrealistic expectations around Taysom Hill.
And does that mean Jason is Joe Montana?
Jason.
Did I say Jason?
What, Jason?
Come on, Jason.
Does that mean James is Joe Montana?
He might be.
I mean, I guess it was a bit surprising when Sean Payton made those remarks
about Taysom, right?
But do you think he probably said those?
I'm guessing he meant it at the time, but do you think is it possible
that he got him, he got Taysom kind of as a full-time QB for a little bit
and he didn't develop and see he wasn't able to run the offense
that Sean Payton wants to run?
Yeah, well, even if he meant it at the time, he still went with Teddy B
two years ago before he said – or after he said that, rather. So I think because of what he does on the
field outside of throwing the ball, it's just, it's too valuable to take away. But clearly,
he doesn't view it that way. He thinks he's the QB1 or can be a QB1. So we'll see what happens.
But New Orleans needs him to be playing with Jameis because if they're no Michael Thomas for the first seven weeks,
they really only have Kamara.
If they don't have success running the football
and then they have to sling it around with Jameis,
they need another guy, and Taysom is perfect to be out there
running slant routes, little RPOs for the guy.
Well, guess who's coming to town week one?
Ty Schmitz, Green Bay Packers. Aaron Rodgers. Full of love and light
and gratitude and appreciation. He's going to come into New Orleans, and I'm sure he is
looking to put on a show, and I think that Green Bay defense wants to be
improved as well with a new D coordinator. Petten is out of there, so let's see what
happens there. But Jameis, hey, big test week one, I guess. Green Bay's
defense, obviously i think
they are very solid and i think green bay's offense is only getting better from where they
were last year now they most likely will not have old takatari out there left tackle but oh uh let's
see what happens i don't know what is what's the timetable on old justin takatari i have i have no
idea to be honest i mean i i saw some some stuff from camp, just like a few videos.
I mean, he's doing stuff.
It looks like he looks pretty good, but I have no idea when.
Has he been in pads yet?
Have you seen him?
I don't think so, no.
I've seen the Instagram post from Aaron when he and Takatari are walking in the tunnel,
and Aaron has all his pads on like he practiced,
and obviously Justin's got just this jersey and shorts on,
so he's doing stuff on the side, I guess.
When did he have surgery?
Do you guys know exactly? I think right after January or February.
Yeah I think it was like almost
immediately after maybe like a week or so after
he tore his ACL and he
was done for the season because
yeah. Right before the NFC
championship. January 7th.
Okay
so he's got what he's seven he's over seven months out of there, I guess.
Usually, I guess, back in the day, ACLs used to be like nine months to a year.
Now guys get back anywhere from six to nine months, I feel, like six to 11.
I feel 100% usually a year after that.
Who knows?
Everyone's different.
But, yeah, he's a huge piece to that offensive line.
We saw what happens when they don't have him in.
It's not good.
But, I mean, going back to the Jameis situation, did you guys have any doubt?
Like I know a lot of people thought Taysom may still be named the starter.
I feel like Jameis just – he almost ran away with this thing,
and it wasn't anything that Taysom did wrong.
First off, this picture we're looking at, look at Taysom's quads.
Yeah.
Yoked.
The only doubt
i had was not because of the way jamis or tasem was playing is because like it seemed like sean
payton wanted tasem hill to win this job but then like jamis just kept playing too good so i didn't
know like what sean payton was gonna do just by like what he was saying in the media and stuff
like that but i think everyone i test was like, it should be Jameis.
Yeah, it does seem that way.
Maybe he didn't want to feel like he was losing a player,
and maybe he feels like he's losing somebody when he names Jameis the starter because we don't know what Taysom's role is going to be.
Taysom could very well ask for a trade, don't you think?
I know my good buddy Brady Papinga, he's a diehard BYU guy.
He is calling for Taysom to ask for a trade.
Do you think we could see that happen?
Well, I don't know how it works with a voidable contract
because if a team were to trade for him and he were to play very well,
would they have to pay at the most $40 million for him
because of that voidable contract?
Or when he gets traded, does that kind of just get canceled out almost?
Well, I mean, in his contract, I don't think there's anything that says,
like, there's no stats or, like, any number or anything that he can do
that says, okay, we have to pay you $40 million a year, is it?
I don't think so.
I just know that the conversation I think we had on Monday with Pat
was that because of the voidable contract, it is, like,
that's the most you can get is the $40 million.
And if that's what he has right now as far as extension-wise,
then that's probably what he's going to ask, or at least $30 to $40.
His contract's basically a one-year deal, the way I understand it.
One-year deal, and he's getting $1 million in base salary.
He just got a bump of some signing bonus.
And that's $10 million?
And that's a way that they can push that down and get it off their cap this year
by his salary only being $1 million, and it's all in a bonus.
Is it odd at all that this came out now?
If there is a legitimate QB competition going into the first week of the season,
does it really matter that much in terms of an opposing defense and game planning
to have them not know who you're actually getting.
Because now the Packers have a full week of preparation,
knowing that Jameis is the starter.
Does that matter at all, you think?
It does matter a little bit, and a lot of coaches are more secretive than others
and won't name a starter, mainly if it is like a situation with Jameis and Taysom
to where they're two different style quarterbacks.
That's when it can make a difference.
If you're choosing between two dropback quarterbacks, then no,
it honestly doesn't matter who the quarterback is.
But when they kind of played different styles of ball
and the offense changes a little bit, the other defense, sure,
they have another week to work on just Jameis.
But guess what?
They're still worried about Taysom because who knows what Taysom's package is.
So they may have more to work on now because you're not exactly sure how they will employ Taysom.
He's probably going to be all over the field.
I mean, they don't have a lot of weapons right now, especially with Michael Thomas out.
So week one should be very fun to watch.
Well, and we've talked about it before, too.
Like week one starter obviously matters.
But, like, if he comes out and, you know, the Packers beat them by 40, like, there's definitely going to be some rumblings of maybe
we'll taste him out week two, week three if he continues to struggle.
But all signs point to him playing well, especially if he's dropping balls in the bucket like
he was against the Jags the other night.
And if Callaway continues his dominance and what he's able to do catching the ball down
the field, we know Jameis likes to sling that thing.
He's just got to find a way to limit his turnovers.
But I quickly wanted to pivot to Phil Rivers.
First off, two questions for you.
A, does Scott Zolak love rap music or does he hate it?
And B, is Phil Rivers the greatest high school coach of all time?
B, yes, Phil Rivers is, in fact, the greatest high school coach of all time.
Still hasn't been scored on. Still hasn't been scored on.
Still hasn't been scored on.
Probably won't the entire year.
Zoloc, I believe, only listens to ACDC and U2,
so I don't believe that he is a big rap guy.
But Ty brought up a great point earlier.
Could you imagine going into your senior year of high school
and Phil Rivers slides in and is your head coach for the next
whatever 15 games to the
state championship, which they will win.
How incredible would that be?
I think it would be awesome because the dude was just
playing months ago in the NFL. The fact that
he's your head coach right now, I think
it's great. If you look at Phil, he looks the part
man. He's got the coaching gear. He's got the hat,
the headset. I'm sure he is heavily
involved in
the offense and what they run but and he does great interviews too we all know that oh yes dude
this dude is pure gold when he speaks to the media and it seems to be super authentic too
so he has like nine kids do any of them play on this team you know i want to say it was was at
least one of his kids maybe at this school i don't know if he's on the team i don't know if he's old
enough but i'm not sure i think he's like a freshman.
I'm just going to say yes, playing the odds, yeah.
Yeah, there's a good chance.
They won 49-0 week one, but going back
to Scott, how do you pronounce his last name?
Zolak.
Yeah, Zolak. You said Zolak,
I feel like.
You asked me, pal.
You're a boss of Duke.
He was a former quarterback, and he's been there.
He's been the voice of their games for years, man.
You don't know how to say his last name?
Well, yeah, he's been the voice for their games for years,
and I won't bring up another guy that, yeah, I didn't have too much love for,
but I definitely mute the TV or turn it very, very low a lot of the time
he's talking because of shit like this.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.
Cam Newton has a stop listening to rap music.
Well, hey, quit fucking dancing on the field.
Yeah, hey, maybe.
Sure, maybe.
But I saw someone, I think it was Will Blackman,
someone sent it to the group of Brady.
They were listening to the Migos.
I think this was leading up to the week of the AFC Championship,
and he was dancing.
This is one of the most ridiculous things I think I've ever read,
and it's a real bummer that it has to come from a guy from Boston
who's talking about football.
We're talking about music here.
Like, give me a break.
But Scott Zoak, though, he knew what he was doing by saying it.
Oh, yeah.
He absolutely knew that this was going to ruffle some feathers,
as they like to say.
Maybe he knew, like, hey, slow news time right now.
Here are the next, like, seven days, so let me throw something out there to get people chatting feathers, as they like to say. Maybe he knew, like, hey, slow news time right now. Here are the next, like, seven days,
so let me throw something out there to get people chatting about, I guess.
But, man, so he's saying Cam would throw a ball,
and the music is still playing, and Cam would instantly start dancing,
and he claims he wasn't engaged or focused because of that.
Is that what I'm hearing?
Yeah, basically, is that he would take a rep, you know, throw it,
and then he would dance while Mac was going, do a little, you know, how you doing,
and then he would go in, take another rep,
and for some reason, for Zolak,
that is what's leading Cam to, you know,
perform not to optimal levels.
But clearly, I mean, you know this.
This is bullshit.
This obviously isn't a legitimate reason
that Cam isn't playing well
or wouldn't be playing well because of rap music.
I mean, it's legitimately ridiculous.
Would it be any better if it was a different genre of music
and Cam was still dancing to say something else?
Well, I bet if it was Toby Keith, he'd say,
hey, ain't nothing wrong with that.
Cam loves Toby Keith.
He's playing well.
The only thing I would ask for Zolak is
if the coaches thought it was an issue,
don't you think Bill Belichick or McDaniels would say something to Cam?
Okay, man, cut it out.
We're not going to do this.
Or they would cut the music out.
I'd imagine if this thing really was a problem,
the coaches would have this cut off a long time ago.
Yeah, and a big thing that Bill loves about Cam is the energy that he brings every day.
Yeah, and a big thing that Bill loves about Cam is the energy that he brings every day.
And maybe for some people, music and dancing isn't the right energy for football,
but it seems to get the boys pretty juiced.
And also, he's not the only one dancing.
There's plenty of videos of Kendrick Bourne and some of the wide receivers doing a little – Geron Mayo.
Geron Mayo.
The D coordinator.
Yes.
So it's ridiculous.
But to your point, what you said earlier kind of makes me think he definitely did this on purpose Gerard Mayo. Gerard Mayo. The D coordinator. Yes. So it's ridiculous.
But to your point, what you said earlier kind of makes me think he definitely did this on purpose because it is a slow news cycle right now.
So he says, fuck it, I'll just say Cam Newton's playing bad because of rap music
and people will take it and run, which they have.
I think Bill Belichick, I mean, he has spoken very highly of Cam Newton
and what he has done and sort of the culture there.
I bet you Bill loves this.
He loves, like, Cam being out there and being so open
and energizing his teammates.
I bet there's times when Bill's like, hey, man, like, guys,
I wish these dudes would have some fun.
Like, they think I don't want to have fun.
I wish they would enjoy it and, like, loosen up a little bit.
And I think Cam does that for him so Bill doesn't have to.
And it's probably fun, you know, like if someone is okay.
So myself and Pat,
we're obviously,
our personalities are very different as humans.
Sure.
So for me,
it's very fun to sit there and watch Pat just perform wherever he,
like just how he is,
his whole essence,
how he interacts with people.
It's very fun because I know that's not me.
And I don't,
it's not real.
I can't see myself ever being like that.
And that's what makes it fun for me. I think that's what makes it work, especially
Connor. I can never put myself in your shoes, Connor.
Yeah, thanks, AJ. I appreciate that.
Kinda. I don't know. There's a smack in the face.
I'm joking. That was a joke. I know.
I know, pal. Alright, relax.
Okay, pipe down over there. I don't want to get
any texts from you or your family.
Oh, yeah, for sure, dude.
Yeah, for sure, absolutely. But also
with the Patriots, the whole thing is
like, oh, they don't have fun up there. It sucks up there.
Like, wouldn't you want more of this?
Like, you would want players to be
enjoying their time, especially publicly
and maybe Zolak's trying to spin something
because he wants Mac Jones to start, but
someone else sent something to the group earlier,
maybe it was Tony, about how Cam has
actually done an interview talking about how he's impressed
by Mac Jones' knowledge of rap music.
So if that's what Zoloft's trying to spin, don't worry, pal.
Mac and Cheese Jones is still listening to rap music too.
So you can't really be spinning that narrative if that's what you're looking for in the end here.
Well, all we need to happen now is, so Mac Jones seems like the ultimate teammate.
Now next open practice they have, I hope they have another one,
Mac needs to dance in between every
single throw he has. They need to play. He needs to
request some good rap he likes, and then he needs
to be dancing harder than Cam in between each rap.
Even taking that another step, why not
have Mac Jones jump on a beat with
Cole Beasley? Why not have him
just go all in? You know what? Oh, you
don't like people listening to rap music? Here's
my first rap single called
The Mac Attack, and it's just him talking
about slicing defenses. I think that would
definitely get the people busting if he did
something like that.
When is Cole Beasley, when is he
dropping that? Is that coming out soon? I don't know.
He's already back in the building, I believe, so
if he had it... Probably before fucking
Donda.
What do you mean?
I mean, he had another successful Kanye, right?
He ruined Soldier Field.
Yeah, he destroyed the grass.
It's not good.
Yeah, they won't be able to play there.
Guys, no respect for the Bears.
That grass has always been terrible.
Come on!
Wait, I know he had a bunch of kids.
Did he fake burn his house down?
What happened?
Your guy, Marilyn Mansonon was there with him.
Yeah, your guy Marilyn Manson was there.
Marilyn has gotten some trouble recently.
A lot of trouble.
A lot of trouble.
You don't say.
No, he didn't burn his house down.
He burnt himself down.
Oh, how is he?
He's doing good.
A couple of third-degree burns.
I believe I saw a lot of people on the internet.
He was like a phoenix rising from the ashes.
He burnt Kanye, and now Yeezy has been reborn.
Ice Cube said it.
He is living art.
This is kind of what he's going for.
No one's ever done it before.
Are we looking at a Garth Brooks, Chris Dean situation here?
Yes.
It certainly appears as if.
He does want to change his name. Really? What appears as if. He does want to change his name.
Really? What'd you say?
He does want to change his name. He doesn't want to be called Kanye anymore.
What was it? Yay.
Kevin? No, just yay.
Is this like an
artist formerly known as Prince? Is this a money thing?
What are we doing? Maybe, actually.
It all seems to be a money thing. I just don't understand
why he hasn't just released the music so people can actually enjoy it.
Well, he has made $12 million.
He knows the album thing.
He's sold $12 million in tickets and merch for these things.
Yeah, but $12 million for a guy.
He's a billionaire, right?
I don't know.
$12 million is a shit ton of money.
Don't get me wrong, but we're talking about Kanye West.
He's gone through a pretty big divorce, isn't he?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, quite, yeah.
But is he paying her or is she paying him?
I'm going to guess he's paying her.
I think it's split down the middle.
I think it's pretty amicable.
It's just, hey, we're just going to go away.
Yeah, that's usually how it goes.
Because she was at the Atlanta Donda listening party,
so who knows how shaky it is.
I didn't think it was.
I mean, I think Ice Cube
said it best when he was on the show. He's like, hey,
Kanye is going to be Kanye. Let him do his
thing. Just let him be. That's what he is.
Whether you like it or not,
I feel like you should
at least respect a dude jumping out there
and taking a chance.
I'm sure he does have moments
where he worries that this may not work, but man,
he powers right through all of that. Was it
almost sold out there?
It looks sold out, yes.
Just for a listening party. That's the thing.
There's no singing.
What's that? He's not singing.
They're just listening to music together.
How many musical acts can sell out
an actual stadium when they are
playing and performing? Not many.
There are, but there's not a ton of them. Connie can play
his album that hasn't come out yet
and people still come listen to it.
Well, it's because they know it's never fucking coming out.
So if they don't go to that, they're never going to hear it.
Todd, you may be onto something.
That may be it. This is like an album where
if you weren't there, you don't know what the greatness is.
At this point, in my mind,
I'm just never going to hear it.
It's just going to be everyone else gets to hear it.
If it never comes out, it never comes out because I'm sick of it, AJ. I'm trying to going to hear it. And it's just going to be, you know, everyone else gets to hear it. And if it never comes out, it never comes out because I'm sick of it, AJ.
I'm trying to listen to the goddamn music.
And he won't put it on Spotify, goddammit.
Do you listen to music, AJ?
Do I listen to what?
Music.
Yeah, I listen to music.
When you drive?
We were debating this morning, like, when you're driving, is it just complete silence?
Or do you actually listen to stuff?
I actually listen to stuff all the time, but I don't listen to music.
I listen to different podcasts, books, audio books, I guess, now.
What are you listening to right now?
I dial up different podcasts I like and try to find them, and I listen to them.
Goosebumps and Berenstain Bears, is that the kind of stuff?
Those are the books you listen to.
I'm halfway through Berenstain Bears.
Just like when I was in fifth grade, if I read one book a week,
I got a personal pan pizza on Friday.
I'm on that train again, yeah.
Hey, how was the scrimmage yesterday?
Good.
We scrimmaged a couple teams.
Nice.
It was fun.
Man, there's some – I saw General Bob in a nice cutoff in double gloves
coaching up his –
Double gloves?
You're lying.
He was not in double gloves.
He was Jay Feeley out there?
He had two gloves, but he had one blue, one red glove.
Bobby.
And my wife eventually was like, Bob, what is with the two gloves?
And he's like, blue is right, red is left.
I go, let the kids know.
And Bob was putting his hands up.
I don't know what he was trying to signal to the defense.
Something.
How's your team looking?
Are they flying around on offense and defense?
Are they leading with their helmets?
I sure hope you are.
We are not leading with our helmets, no.
Clemson Tigers third and fourth
grade team is not. Defense is definitely ahead
of the offense right now. Defense has been
swarming to the ball, running, reacting,
trusting their instincts. Offense,
it's a work in progress. We've got to figure out
the, not always a clean quarterback
center exchange. First game's coming
on Sunday. We'll see how it goes. Well, it's not like you guys
can throw the ball, right? At this point,
you're just running the triple option.
That's the problem. Third and fourth grade.
We play some teams that are all fourth graders
and have a whole year. Our guys
have been playing tackle football for two weeks.
We had dudes running naked boots on us
yesterday, misdirection.
We cannot figure this one out.
Maybe dumb down the offense then. You guys don't need to
go five wide going out of shotgun.
Run the veer.
Run the veer.
Six plays.
Work like Novocaine.
Just give them time.
Boys, I think our next guest is already here.
He's already waiting for us.
So we know what's going on this week.
We have a little bit of time before the regular season starts.
Tonight we have some preseason games.
This guy is going to be working the Eagles at the regular season starts tonight we have some preseason games this guy is going to be working uh the eagles at the jets tonight for the preseason put your hands together ross tucker
welcome to the show aj what's up man thank you for having me i appreciate it this is by the way
the most dressed up i've ever been for a hit like this. I literally am going to hop in the car to drive to MetLife
as soon as we're done talking.
So I normally wouldn't have like a button-down shirt on, I promise.
Hey, you look good, Ross.
You look professional.
And I know I'm worried for you because I see how light that shirt is.
It's a dress shirt.
You will be completely pitted out and sweat through that shirt
before warm-ups even start, won't you?
Dude, there's been, this is the third preseason game, obviously, it has been at least 90 at
kickoff for all three, and I know most of those guys are from the Northeast, so they
know how, although I don't know if we call Pittsburgh the Northeast, that's a whole different
discussion we could have, but they're from Pennsylvania like me.
Dude, here's the key, okay?
First, this is the pocket, okay?
This is the pocket sweat towel.
This actually fits in my pocket right there.
I cut up my daughter's hand towel.
It's koala bears.
So that goes in my pocket because I got to be in the tunnel I cut up my daughter's hand towel. It's koala bears.
So that goes in my pocket because I've got to be in the tunnel three hours before the game interviewing Coach Sirianni.
And then during the game, I just go full throttle to Big White.
You've got to go Big White.
But you know how it is, AJ.
They don't always tell you when you're about to be on camera.
So I'll be, like, drenched because I get into it.
I get excited, whatever.
I get pumped up. So I got to do a quick
like that so I don't
look like a total hog. And by
the way, I'm 75 pounds less than
I was when I was playing. I don't know how we did
it, dude. I don't know how we were out
there in training camp, 90 degrees
weighing 320 like that.
Well, yeah. Hey,
I think that all the time, wearing the pads and everything,
but I have to go back.
So you were interviewing Nick Sirianni before the game tonight in the tunnel.
How long did you get to speak to him?
Have you got to interview this guy before?
And what are your thoughts on him, I guess?
Yeah, so part of my job is I interview him before every preseason game,
and then they air it on the pregame show.
And, you know, he's 40.
So I love him so far.
First of all, I love everything about him,
but it makes me feel a little bit bad, AJ, because he's 40.
Both of his coordinators are like 38,
and his special teams coordinator is 29.
So this is the first time in my life where I'm like, man, where did I go wrong?
These guys are all head coaches and coordinators, and I'm interviewing them.
But, no, he's been really cool so far.
We think the same.
We have a lot of the same interests.
Yesterday in the production meeting, he was talking about Rocky IV
and how awesome Rocky IV was.
I was right
there with him so and and even you know you know this is more important than
what I think of him the players you know in the production meetings the players
bring him up all the time the players mentioned the things he tells him all
them he has like a chart every day to start up the meetings where he shows
everybody what they did the day before.
Like, they give you a, like, you know how you get graded for a game, AJ?
They grade you in practice, plus or minus.
And my understanding is every morning you see how everybody,
every guy graded in practice the day before.
So it's total transparency.
Wow.
I hear they are, aren't they big with their like sports
science people and do they i've heard michael and barty talk about this do they does he like
does sirianna defer to a lot of the sports science people for like length of practice how intense it
is and things like that yes so they uh i will say this because i played for five teams and just been around a bunch of teams they invest so many
resources in the football team I mean Anthony Harris who came over in free agency from the
Vikings he was saying to us last week he's like he can't believe how many people there are that
are nutrition consultants people that stretch you before practice, people that hand you your smoothie.
I mean, they spare no expense to make sure they're putting these guys in the right spot.
And he talked about the doctors, the trainers.
That's how they determine how long the practices are.
But the flip side of that is, I mean, they had two hard practices last week against the Patriots before that game.
They had two hard practices this week against the Jets.
So they're still getting in some good work.
But they were missing, I want to say,
maybe six or seven starters for the opener last year.
And I'm pretty sure they wanted to make sure that that didn't happen again.
Wow.
I have a question.
I know Connor has something after this, but I wanted to ask you quickly.
I know you've mentioned there may be,
like we may look around some of these preseason games,
and are we going to see some threes going against ones?
I know it's a unique situation with three preseason games.
I know Josh Allen's playing in the third game.
He hasn't played in the first two.
What kind of matchups are we going to see?
I don't know that we've ever seen this before, man.
And I've been reading the reports from some other teams.
I mean, Joe Burrow's playing for the first time.
I think Joe Judge said Daniel Jones and the Giants starters are going to play the whole first half.
Meanwhile, there's other reports the teams aren't going to play anybody. I mean, even today,
I saw Mike Garofalo said he doesn't expect the Eagles to play their starters. And somebody else
said the Jets are going to play their starters for the first half. I don't know you know things change we'll see what happens but
you know usually there used to be a rhythm to preseason as you know. Third preseason was dress
rehearsal. Fourth preseason game nobody played. It's just the young guys the guys at the bottom
of the roster. Some teams are treating this weekend like it's the third preseason game dress rehearsal. Some are treating it like the fourth preseason game nobody plays. So we might
have times this weekend where it's starters going against third string. So something to keep an eye
on. A, it'll be interesting to watch and B, could be some opportunities for people out there.
Connor, what do you have? Yeah, Ross, we've heard a lot about Hurts.
Is Hurts, you know, what's the difference between him this year and last year
as far as just kind of taking command of the team?
And also, fantasy football, should I be drafting Devontae Smith
within the first five rounds this year?
Is this Boston Connor, the hot tub guy?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Just a regular bathtub.
Just a regular bathtub.
I wish I had a hot tub. Oh, right, right, right, right, absolutely. Just a regular bathtub. Just a regular bathtub. I wish I had a hot tub.
Oh, right, right, right, right, right.
By the way, before I forget, I've been following Pat's tweets.
I hope he's doing okay.
It's scary that you can feel that bad even though he's fully vaxxed.
As a guy that's had a podcast network for like eight years or whatever,
what you guys have created connor and all of you
guys aj now it's unbelievable unbelievably impressed by what pat and all you guys have done
hope people appreciate and realize what you guys have built from scratch because it's amazing
uh i almost totally forgot your question but i just remember Jalen Hurts. Now, here's the thing. I was talking with a fantasy expert this week.
You know,
right now, the Eagles are considered
to, you know, their win total
whatever, six and a half games. So right now, you think,
okay, they might be trailing in a bunch of games.
They got a top 5-0 line.
He's going to run the ball
a lot. I think from a fantasy
perspective, I don't know about Devontae Smith.
I think Devontae Smith will get the most targets
of the receivers, but they still
have two stud tight ends in
Goddard and Hurts right now. But I know
people that are out there, like fantasy
dudes, fantasy experts, that think
if Hurts starts all 17 games,
he's a top five fantasy
quarterback. So maybe you should draft
Hurts, Connor, instead of Devontae.
Wow. Hey, ross we have another
sirianni fan in studio ty schmidt i know you had something for ross what's on your mind yeah ross
uh speaking of sirianni really the the a lot of what we see from the eagles are kind of like his
uh his press conference clips and and tidbits like that where you know sometimes what the the
message that he's trying to get across doesn't necessarily get across completely.
But you said that they've looked good and everything.
What do you think a realistic expectation or ceiling is for the Eagles this year?
So, yeah, I mean, I'm from Philly,
so I get text messages from my buddies after a couple of Sirianni's press conferences.
I'll just tell you, and I've talked to him five times now,
the guy's been awesome.
He's been awesome.
And all that energy, enthusiasm, he really is like that.
He loves football.
He saw a video of Phillip Rivers last night going crazy about football.
That is Sirianni.
Sirianni is like that.
I think the Eagles are going to be way better than what other people think.
Here's the two reasons, right?
If the O-line stays healthy, they're top five all day.
If the D-line stays healthy, they're top ten, maybe even top five.
And then remember this.
I know he's there in Indy with you guys now.
I got a good relationship with him.
I really like him as a person, Carson Wentz. But guys,
he led the NFL
in sacks and
picks last year and
didn't play the last four games.
He didn't play 25% of the season.
So what I tell people is, if Hurts
just throws five less picks
and takes five
less sacks, I mean, you guys tell
me, what is that? Two more wins, three more wins?
So certainly for those of you that like to make things interesting,
I certainly like the Eagles over their season win total.
I think they're an 8-9-10 win team.
Speaking of a guy that needs to limit interceptions,
Jameis Winston was named the starter down in New Orleans.
Were you surprised by that?
And what do you think Taysom Hill is going to do?
Is he willing to be that slash role?
I know he wanted to play quarterback.
No, I wasn't surprised.
I mean, I think, you know, now that they've lost some weapons,
it's a different team.
I think Payton probably always wanted to be able to have Taysom in that role,
you know, in the Swiss Army Knife role, offensive weapon role, whatever you want to call it.
So I kind of always felt like unless Jameis stunk up the joint in training
camp and preseason, he was going to be the guy.
So I'm not surprised.
I think it's the right move.
He looked awesome the other night.
I mean, I don't want to overstate one preseason game, but those throws to
Callaway.
By the way, who is Callaway?
He's a guy now.
And he's catching touchdown passes all over the place.
Undrafted free agent last year.
But I thought Jameis looked awesome.
The weird thing I thought, though, AJ, was Taysom Hill lost some weight.
If you look at him, he trained to be a quarterback this year.
He looks to me like at least 10 pounds lighter maybe 15 pounds lighter so uh i don't know what
he's gonna have to do training wise try to get back to be able to be like the the up back on
punt team and all those other roles they had from the power runner yeah i mean he's gonna let's see
what uh i guess how much they use him but But I wanted to pivot to Dallas right now.
I know Dak, I guess they say what he's moving forward without restrictions
on his shoulder, lat, ankle, everything that's going on.
What do you expect from the Cowboys and Mike McCarthy this year?
And obviously Dan Quinn steps in as the new D coordinator.
Well, first of all, if you can get Micah Parsons for defensive rookie of the year,
go ahead and do that.
I live in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania now. It's where my wife's from. If you can get Micah Parsons for Defensive Rookie of the Year, go ahead and do that.
I live in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania now.
It's where my wife's from.
And I saw that guy play in his third high school game ever.
And I texted my buddy at Penn State, who's in the – he's the GM over at Penn State.
And I was like, there's a ninth grader for Central Dolphin High School
that might be the best defensive player I've ever –
they offered him the next week. Micah got offered after three games of high school football. there's a ninth grader for Central Dolphin High School that might be the best defensive player ever.
They offered him the next week.
Micah got offered after three games of high school football in ninth grade.
I think he's going to tear it up this year in Dan Quinn's defense.
And frankly, AJ, they need him to. I mean, that defense struggled last year.
They need Micah to make a bunch of plays.
Offensively, I just never like going into
the season with these injury issues hanging over our head with like Amari Cooper still kind of out
there. You know, Dak still kind of out there. I mean, maybe it ends up being fine. And, you know,
hopefully for our entertainment, since the Cowboys are on national TV all the time. I hope it is.
But I never like when there's things that are lingering out there,
even like Daris Al for the Vikings or Tevin Jenkins for the Bears.
These guys, oh, they'll be okay.
They'll be okay.
They always say these guys are okay until they're not okay.
Todd, you got something else?
Yeah, Ross, I think it was
this morning, Jadavian Clowney said
that guards aren't real athletes,
and he likes lining up inside because he can
kind of just have his way with them. I believe
you played guard. Do you take any
offense to that, and are guys going to be
chomping at the bit to knock Clowney's
teeth out this year?
So let's just think about that for a second,
right? Why do guys say things like
like in all sincerity like even when i played against let's say i was playing against the
browns this year i would try to be aggressive i would try to be physical whatever but now like
during that week of practice i'd be like yo you know what you do with clowny you know what we
need to do there like why would you put a bullseye on your back?
If I'm freed up in pass protection
and somebody else has him locked up
I would put my helmet in his ribs as hard as I could
and hope to hear something crunch.
Like, why guys say stuff like that is beyond me.
And, you know, he's got a point
that usually offensive tackles
have better feet
and slide better
in pass protection.
But they're also more used to going against
body types like Clowney.
It's the same reason why when they put
a 300-pound D-end out at offensive
or D-tackle out at
defensive end, the offensive tackle
struggles sometimes because they're not used to going against that kind of power.
Well, when you put Clowney inside,
the guards aren't always used to going against that kind of wiggle.
That said, I mean, they're going to jump them.
And by the way, when you go inside against the guards,
a lot of times they have help from the center,
and they know when they have help.
But the moral of the story here is, don't say things
about guys that are going to try to kill you.
It doesn't help.
I guess Connie probably thinks, well, not
if I kill him first, I'll be in the clear.
Speaking of that, AJ, speaking of that,
was it Connor?
Who was it that was talking trash on me
last week about saying guy
and dude? Yeah, hand up.
That was me, Ross. Before I ever talked to you, I'm Yeah, hand up. Hand up. That was me, Ross.
Before I ever talked to him, a big fan now.
Hand up.
That was me.
What were you saying, Connor?
See, Ross, I didn't get to see the game that you called.
Connor, what were you saying?
I was more saying the follow-up to you explaining what a guy dude was.
It was a big miss on the joke from your cohort,
whoever the other guy is who you commentate with.
You know what's so funny?
I didn't even see what you said,
Connor. I just got three tweets from people like, hey, they're talking
trash on you on Pat Matthews.
They're dogging you. I was like,
Pat? AJ? They're like, no,
the other guys.
No, no, no. It wasn't you. We were kind of dogging
your partner, though. Hands up.
That was on me.
You know what's funny, though, Connor?'t you. We were kind of dogging your partner, though. Hands up. That was on me. Yeah, you know what's funny, though, Connor?
Two things.
Number one, okay, I got a text message from somebody.
I will not say who it is.
It might have been my mom saying,
why do you keep calling these players a guy or a dude?
So that's why I said, you know know what i mean right because aj knows this
pat knows this when you talk to like college football coaches that's how they describe
studs for their team they'll be like oh he's a guy now i mean he's a guy or like we think he's a dude
they either say guy dude or the one that my favorite, which is war daddy. Got to be like a D-line.
But they'll be like, we think he's a war daddy.
We think he's a legit war daddy.
That's the other one they use.
Yeah, it is.
Ross, last thing here before we let you get on the road to start sweating in that tunnel at the Jets game.
It should be fun.
Are there any teams out there that you think people aren't given a chance to that might surprise some people?
Like, let's say the Lions, Dan Campbell. I don't know. Maybe Houston wins more games than you may think. Is there any are there any teams out there you think people aren't given a chance to that might surprise some people like let's say the lions dan campbell i don't know maybe houston
wins more games than you may think is there anyone out there you think we should kind of have on our
radar so one of them you guys will say i'm biased but one of them is philadelphia uh the other two
that jump out to me chargers and falcons right thegers, everybody says this every year. I know that.
Anthony Lynn, unbelievably nice human being.
Unbelievably terrible in-game head coach.
He had to have cost them three or four games. How did he cost them?
Can you give an example, Ross?
Oh, my gosh, dude.
Like, you look at the clock management in some of those situations.
It was abysmal.
Decisions whether to kick or go.
I mean, it was, I mean, he single-handedly made the Red Zone channel in the afternoon entertaining.
To see what he was going to do next.
And I'll give you the other one.
How about the Falcons?
Nobody's talking about the Falcons.
Do you remember the Falcons just watching the onside kick go between their,
just spin around against the Cowboys?
They blew that game.
They let Nick Foles come off the bench and throw seven touchdown passes,
I think, in the fourth quarter of one game.
And then how about the game where Gurley didn't just go down and take a knee.
He goes and scores a touchdown, and
then the Lions, Stafford throws a bob.
The Falcons lost three or
four games that there's no
way they should have lost. That doesn't
happen every year. They're not going to lose
four games that you guys
and Pat are all talking about on Monday.
Can you believe they choke?
That's not going to happen.
Even if that only happens once, that's two or three more wins for the Falcons.
Well, Ross, we will let you head on your way to the stadium.
Good luck.
Hopefully they get you on camera, you know, get a working shot of you super sweaty.
You'll be the next, you know, taking line for Joe Thomas.
Maybe you can out-sweat Joe tonight.
You think you can make that happen?
How does Joe not know you have to wear an undershirt?
How does he not know that? I mean, you know, Joe is know you have to wear an undershirt? How does he not know that?
I mean, you know, Joe is...
You have to wear an undershirt.
Now, you can do a sweat towel for your face,
but you got to wear a cotton undershirt to soak.
I mean, Joe was all pitted out.
I at least know about...
Now, the undershirt, at the end of the game,
I just throw it away.
It's totally drenched.
But you need the undershirt.
Come on, Joe.
Yes, come on, Joe. Yes, come on, Joe.
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, Ross Tucker.
Hey!
Appreciate it, man.
What's up, boys?
Were you surprised to hear him talk about Anthony Lynn like that?
No.
No.
Yeah.
No?
Not at all.
This show, Pat has mentioned it many times about the Chargers
end-of-game situations last year.
When Lombardi's on, he just dogs Anthony Lynn every single time.
And then in the first preseason game this year, Anthony Lynn and MCDC
basically did the same exact thing.
So, no, not surprised to hear that one.
I was surprised, though.
I saw your eyes light up when Ross mentioned Sirianni,
and then you didn't go there.
Yeah.
What do you mean I didn't go there?
Well.
I thought you were going to let him know that we actually have Coach Sirianni
in studio on a daily basis.
I was going to.
I was going to let Ty try to take it if he wanted to,
but I feel like I put Ty on the spot a lot with different impressions.
I don't want him to be – you know,
I want him to make sure he is locked and loaded if I do come to him.
No, no, no.
I mean, it would have been fine.
But, yeah, I wrote it down.
You want to make sure that you have references ready to go immediately
in those situations.
So, you know, a couple minutes on Rocky IV, I love it.
So that is huge moving forward.
That is huge.
I knew when Ross told us about the Rocky IV, I was like,
oh, that is a good piece of information.
It will be carried along here in this office for a long time, I believe.
Do you really think the Eagles are going to be all right, though?
I don't know.
I mean, everything coming out about Hurts, it really was like Lombardi said it.
If anyone gets hurt, their twos are just not really up to snuff.
Yeah, they kind of stink.
Hasn't that kind of been their thing the last several years, though,
is they are incredibly injury-prone and they can't
stay healthy. Yeah, they are. I guess
that's probably a big thing that
Sirianni's doing, working with the sports science.
Ross said it sounds like they have 5,000
people on staff that get in players everything
they could possibly need to give them a
chance, I guess, to stay on the field.
Staying healthy, obviously, yeah, you
can work out through it and do everything
that you should do to try to prevent injury,
but sometimes it's just luck.
It's bad luck or good luck whether your team is healthy or not.
It also depends where those injuries hit.
Like if all of a sudden you have two or three O-linemen go down,
like that's tough to recover from.
If your quarterback goes down, forget it.
Like that's no fun.
So, yeah, it's going to need some luck.
And the Eagles will need Jalen Hurts to play out of his mind, I think,
especially early on, maybe build some confidence
and get some people taking him seriously if they want to make some noise, I guess.
But I don't think their division's too stacked.
I don't know what the rest of their record looks like,
but at least in the division,
I don't think they have huge juggernauts they're going to be facing.
Yeah, but do you think the Cowboys,
and granted that could just be because of hard knocks and everything,
but you assume the Cowboys will be much better this year.
The Washington football team is supposed to be good this year.
And even the Giants, I guess we don't really know.
The only thing we've heard about them from camp is all the shit with Joe Judge.
But healthy Saquon, like, I mean,
doesn't it seem like the Eagles are still in the basement of that division?
Oh, it definitely does feel that way.
But that's the thing.
If Jalen Hurts can play out of his mind and do stuff that we watched him do in college,
then yeah, he will give them a chance.
But are we for sure that Saquon Barkley is going to be in the lineup week one?
He's not.
He's not playing the last preseason game.
And they said they're not going to make an announcement on if he's available week one or not. think he's not he's not playing the last preseason game and they said they're not
going to make an announcement on if he's available week one or not the internet was pumped uh this
week because there was videos of him doing live drills and stuff like that he was wearing a red
jersey uh but i don't think there's no there has not been word if he's going to be there week one
yeah they took him off the pop list so i mean that's got to be a good sign but also judge
part of the new england tree so he probably won't announce it until game day.
I mean, I would say this is a pretty pivotal year for quarterback Daniel Jones.
Oh, yeah.
It's make or break.
He approved to us that you are a franchise guy or not.
You think they'll move on if he doesn't come out there and lighten up this year?
Yes.
I don't know because he still has one more year left on his rookie deal, I think.
Well, I mean, I don't think they'll, like, I doubt they would cut him or trade him,
but I would imagine they would bring in some type of top flight competition
and win a draft pick most likely.
Yeah, they're not going to pick up that fifth-year option
if he doesn't have a good year this year.
He just fucking turns it over.
He fumbles it.
He throws it.
He does not protect the ball at all.
I mean, me and Connor, we say he is the greatest athlete
at the quarterback position in the league,
but he just can't protect the ball.
Yeah, and they –
Is he really?
Oh, yeah, he ran the fastest out of any quarterback,
including Lamar Jackson last year.
But also, like, they went out and they got Galladay.
Sterling Shepard's healthy.
He's throwing punches against the Browns.
They got Darius Slate and they got Ingram.
Like, with Saquon, if the offense doesn't perform,
you've got to assume it's on him or the O-line
because the O-line has also kind of been a problem for them in the past.
And from what I hear people talking about that have been around their camp,
people say their defense looks like they could be really good this year.
They were great last year.
They were an incredible under team because their defense was good
and their offense fucking stunk.
So they just need their offense to improve by like 15%, 20%, right?
And they'll be okay?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, 15%, 20% shit.
If you only get eight wins in the NFC East, that might get the job done.
Because last year they were in it until the end.
They finished 6-10.
I mean, they were right there.
The football team went 7-9.
It wasn't like they were doing anything special.
But do you think any of the teams in the NFC East are going to be like an 11-12 win team?
Or do you think eight or nine wins might get it done again?
I mean, if Dak can stay healthy and not have like lingering issues with that shoulder and lat and ankle,
I think that the Cowboys could do that.
But the rest of the division, I don't think we know who they are.
Let's see how Daniel Jones plays.
Let's see what the Eagles look like with Jalen Hurts.
I just don't know what's going to happen there.
I think there's so much up in the air.
17 games, long season.
Who knows?
Joe Judge, for him, luckily, it seems like they are going to make sure.
He's going to have a chance to build his culture and build the team he wants.
They're not going to move off of him quickly and make any rash decisions, it seems like.
If he wants the offense to be good and move forward this year, bring back McAdoofus.
He's in Dallas.
Yeah, I know.
Find a way to bring him back.
Go back to the old haircut, McAdoo.
We don't need slick back McAdoo.
We need old school McAdoo.
We need the McAdoofus.
We need boxy suit McAdoo from his opening presser, right?
Yes.
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Ross brought something up to Connor,
and this is something that actually kind of threw me off.
So the show goes on the air right at 12 Eastern.
About 11.50, I came across Connor Campbell doing his hashtag bath talk.
Yeah.
And, I mean, it almost. I mean, I almost wasn't
going to come to the show.
I'm trying to figure out what you're doing. It was good.
I like it. Like I said before, I appreciate you people
taking chances and putting themselves
out there. Is this going to be like a running thing?
Are you going to try to sell this to Spotify or something?
I mean, no, I will never sell anything
to Spotify, but this was the third episode.
Thanks for following the product, pal.
You're acting like this is the first time we've done this. Okay. I'm just trying to... This one felt longer. This felt longer than others but this was the third episode. Thanks for following the product, pal. You're acting like this is the first time we've done this.
Okay.
This one felt longer.
This felt longer than others.
This was the longest one.
You got a good sense of, you know, your feel is right on par, War Daddy Hawk.
But, no, this was basically, you know, just a breakdown of everything week to week.
You know, you got to update on what's going on.
It's a very topical thing.
Mac Jones and Cam almost is like the last QB competition aside from a few.
Also, we're talking about the football team.
The football team apparently hasn't decided on Fitzmagic or Heineke yet,
so that's still up in the air too.
I mean, that's legit.
Do you think it's real?
Do you think that's a real thing or are they just saying that?
I mean, I don't know.
I feel like Heineke has played pretty damn well.
I'm not going to say I've watched every snap of the football team's
preseason or followed along with their joint practices or anything,
but after what he did against the Bucs, I mean, he's an athlete.
He adds another dimension.
I always, no matter what, will say start Fitzmagic
until the wheels fall off of that guy.
Yes, they will.
Because what he can do is untouchable, but you never know.
They might roll with Heineke.
I doubt it.
I mean, whatever happens, like whoever is starting a quarterback for Washington,
like that dude is key to play well because it feels like they have a lot of pieces
around that quarterback position to make a play.
There he is!
Pat McAfee outdoors.
What's happening, man?
How are you feeling?
You look good.
Mr. Hawk, how are you?
You might hear me.
I'm a little congested today.
That's the big word of the day, congested.
Woke up in a pool of sweat.
Hold on.
It might be my Wi-Fi.
Let me call you back.
Hold on.
Jay, did you steal all of the internet again over there?
I'm not there anymore, so you can't blame me anymore.
Where'd you go, Jay?
I got a new house.
Good for you, man.
Congrats on your upcoming wedding, too.
Is that next week?
Yes, next Friday.
Jay, you think you'll cry up there at the altar?
No, probably not.
But maybe.
I don't think you will either.
You never know.
We'll see.
What's up, Pat?
How you doing?
Well, Pat was with us for a half a second, but he's outdoors and he's frozen.
It looks to be right now.
Yeah.
Uh-oh.
We'll figure it out.
We'll figure it out on Pat's end.
I mean, you know you can always go out Inside bud
Where the wifi works
You don't have to be outside right
Dude he's trying to get
Some fresh air
He's been locked up
Can you give him
A break cock
Just cause you're a war daddy
Doesn't mean you gotta
Shit on everybody else
True
Hey Connor so
Got that war daddy haircut too
Look at that thing
Oh yeah
You're right
You know what
I like it I like it.
You can call me War Daddy.
I'm sure you love being
called the War Daddy just like you love
us pointing at you. That's probably your new
favorite thing, isn't it?
I'd bite your finger off if we were in person.
That's a classic War Daddy move.
That doesn't surprise me whatsoever.
Speaking of War Daddies, AJ, you got any
War Daddies on the Clemson Tigers?
We got a couple, man.
We have some guys that are not scared to be physical, which is the greatest thing.
We can handle mistakes on our team, third and fourth graders.
We don't mind if we make mistakes.
You just got to make them 100 miles an hour, the old coaching cliche.
And if you don't know who to hit, just hit somebody.
That's all we tell them, and have fun.
So, yeah, we got some guys, man.
We don't have a game.
We haven't even played our first game yet.
Do you have any dudes?
Why are you guys the Clemson Tigers instead of just, like, being the Tigers?
Because that's how our league is, I guess,
where they assign each team a different color.
So we play, like, the Washington Huskies.
There's Notre Dame.
You got Yuzov?
Yuzov, who got to be Ohio State?
I don't know.
There is an Ohio State.
We're playing the Buckeyes soon, I think.
That's whoever Bobby's on.
Whatever team Bobby's attached to automatically gets the Buckeye name.
Well, I mean, that is most likely he would threaten whoever runs the league
to get that, I would imagine.
I'm not sure what team he's an assistant coach with.
He's coaching with Joey Galloway's team, too.
So they got some studs on that team.
They're great at Buckeyes.
What is this league?
I don't understand why every single guy that you –
every team that you guys have has like a very accomplished NFL player.
What team is Herbstroke coaching?
Yeah, do you have to be an All-American at Ohio State to coach in this league?
Well, no.
So Herbie moved out of town.
He lives not – and he's not in Columbus anymore.
But Joey Galloway is from Ohio, lives in Columbus, has kids.
So, yeah, we see him around.
He's coaching.
Yeah, there's, you know, I talked to Joey for a while last night.
The dude looks like he could still play.
Pat, what's up, man?
You're back.
Is your Wi-Fi good?
Well, I don't know.
I don't know if it's the Wi-Fi.
I'm standing up here near my house underneath this deck that needs to be replaced ASAP.
Might fall on my head in the middle of this conversation.
How'd the Clemson Tigers do yesterday?
I missed that.
Good?
I heard we did good.
Yeah, it was good.
Just a scrimmage.
Yeah, we, you know, 10 plays, 10 plays back and forth with a couple different teams.
You know, mostly, you know, it was good.
There's always things to clean up.
You know that.
But it was fun.
How was, uh, how was little Hawk?
He was good, man.
Offensively, we're trying to figure a lot of things out.
But defensively, yeah, he loves to run and hit
and seems to really enjoy tackling.
So it's fun to watch him have fun.
Good form tackling on it?
Yeah, form tackling, head up, bowl the neck, you know.
Bullshit.
Exactly how it works.
I got some reports from Boots on the Ground
at Clemson Tigers scrimmage yesterday.
It said maybe the Hawk liked to use his Rydell thing a little bit too much.
Oh!
Where's the dad Hawk?
Where's the dad Hawk?
He said.
James Harrison.
Have you guys watched Heels, the show that James is on?
Nah, I haven't got around to it.
I'm still waiting for the whole thing to be out.
I've heard it's pretty good for some people.
I think it's going to be incredible, obviously.
Anything with the professional wrestling business is normally pretty good,
but then if it's going in backstage and shit too,
I'm sure the drama is fantastic,
and James Harrison's probably amazing at it.
Who took your role, Pat?
Some middle-aged white probably that's bad at wrestling.
I mean, that's basically how they describe my character.
middle-aged white probably that's bad at wrestling i mean that's basically how they describe my character
you're gonna be a middle-aged dad who's good but not great at wrestling i'm like get the
fuck that's not gonna be my first role you can fuck off thank you thank you
for the incredible honor of getting ass which is real i was appreciate i was very appreciative
of the opportunity but the way they described
my character, I mean, I didn't even read what
my lines were. As soon as I just saw, this is
the character you're playing. Kind of the shit's
in the ring, but middle-aged dad
and you get
kind of bullied. Alright, I'm fucking
out here, so we'll have to wait and see
who that is. Did you
ask Ross Tucker about his podcast network
or no? He mentioned his podcast network or no?
He mentioned his podcast network.
He said he's had it for eight years now.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
He was complimenting you and what you have built here and everything. And he said for someone who's owned a podcast network for eight years,
the platform that you have built up, he was complimenting you.
That's very nice, Ross.
I heard him also say he's gonna put his face mask
in the ribs today don't clowny that's my first time ever really that's my first time ever really
hearing him speak I hope I can be on the next time he joins us I appreciate you booking him
thank you for doing that thank you for doing this show for the last three days AJ you've been
unbelievable I can't say it enough it's been it's been fun here with the boys. I know you're on your road to recovery, right?
So are we on an upswing or downswing on our health?
Okay, so I don't know if my face is freezing.
I feel like a hawk here a little bit.
No, you're good.
Okay, good.
It feels like I'm in an attic of a bazillionaire's house.
So this morning about 4 a.m. I woke woke up in a pool of sweat i'm talking disgusting like
never something i've never experienced before once again i've not really been sick for like
15 years 10 years or so so i don't know what i'm supposed to feel what i'm not supposed to feel
obviously with this son of a bitch i don't think anybody knows anything about it still at this
point but so i had to change the sheets, okay, 4.15 a.m.
That's how drenched it was.
I'm talking bad.
Jeez.
Damn.
There's probably some other fluids mixed in with sweat, I'm guessing, right?
Jesus, AJ.
What's your deal?
Like what?
Like, did you piss your pants?
I'm glad you've been known to do that.
AJ.
It's not you, dude.
I haven't been known to do that.
Never do that.
Okay, good. Continue. I'm sorry. I haven't been known to do that. Never do that. Okay, good.
Continue.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry I cut you off.
I know sometimes you selectively edit your stories.
I just wanted to make sure we get the truth.
It's a service you're giving to everybody, a lot of people that are fighting through this.
No, I don't selectively edit.
I think that transparency of me is why why this has potentially worked do you piss
your pants still i is that even though that was something that people is that what you do
piss the bed i'm saying no of course i don't but i'm saying you don't there's no did you
bend down did you check to make sure it was only sweat
i wear shorts when i sleep so i would be pissing my shorts if I did piss my bed.
I apologize.
If you sleep nude and you just piss the bed, all right, I got it.
But anyways, Karrion Kross.
You know Karrion Kross?
Yeah.
Do you know who that is?
I'm being serious.
Do you know who that is?
Yeah, because when I was there with you, I saw him practicing with his little girl he wrestles with, right?
Or he's always with?
Yeah, Scarlett's his lady.
I don't know if they're still together or not in the ring.
I know in real life they are, but in the ring, I'm not sure.
They were practicing for like two hours beforehand.
So he got a shoulder injury whenever he was at NXT.
And I don't even know if this is like public knowledge so I probably shouldn't say
but it helps for this story so fuck it he should it should be out there he like self-healed that
shoulder injury basically okay so he like he dives in deep into like the muscles and everything so he
did this entire rehab process without surgery probably needed it healed himself up right so
he's a big like I want to know everything about the body type guy, if that makes sense. So he sent me over and this is
no shit. I sent this picture to Frank, I think, I think Nick got to see this. He sent me over
30 text messages with articles attached to each thing that said, Hey, do this, do this, do this,
do this, do this, do this, do this. And here's the articles to prove why you should do it.
One of them was the amount of water that I should be drinking.
So I drink a shit ton of water on a daily basis anyways.
But I started his.
He told me like, hey, need a gallon in you, basically.
Hey, need a gallon in you yesterday, he said to me.
So I drank a gallon yesterday.
I think that is potentially why the sweat did seem like somebody maybe did piss all over the bed.
If that makes sense. I think I had more, like the sweat did seem like somebody maybe did piss all over the bed.
If that makes sense.
I think I had more, like the sweat was just everywhere.
So that was at like 4 a.m.ish.
Changed the sheets.
Go back to sleep.
Wake up.
No fever.
No aches.
Okay.
Huh?
We're on the other side.
We're on the other side of this thing.
I started thinking to myself.
Then I realized, oh, I can't really breathe right now.
This is great. Chest is incredibly tight. incredibly tight congestion i'm coughing stuff up i'm spitting it in bottles i'm almost grabbing a drink of the same bottle oh yeah i mean there's been a lot of
that situation going on so very congested chest is very tight i took a covid test today because
i got a little arrogant the cleanest
positive line in the history of positive still got it still sweating the chest feels tight still
but i think i'm on the other side of this thing aj and it's all because of you aj hawk it's all
because of you it is i'll send you 30 of my remedies too backed backed up by signs that Connor sent me. So you'll be in luck this afternoon.
You'll have plenty to do.
Well, I will find you,
you know, some solace
that it wasn't like a Connor-type article.
That would be a sin.
You know what I mean?
So like,
old Karrion Kross was sending me like,
you know, like medical.
It was really nice of him,
to be honest.
Hey, if you talk to. Do you reach out to
doctors?
I don't know. How does it work?
Do you call them? Do they tell you what you should do?
There's been like five...
What's that called
when people are trying to test something? Trial?
Yeah.
There's been like five different companies that are
trialing shit.
That's the right way.
No, that's it.
There's a bunch of different companies that are kind of going through clinical trials right now
that have been trying to get to me, I think.
You know, like either emailing my dad, for instance.
Tim McAfee has gotten a couple emails.
He has forwarded those to me.
My guy, CFO Phil, has gotten a couple emails.
But other than that, I haven't really talked to any doctors other than WWE people. Wow. Well, I think hopefully today is your last
day of symptoms. You think it is? You think this is the last time you wake up in a pool of sweat?
I think so. I think the fever and aches are gone. I talked to a good friend of ours there. He's
Butler. He had Uncle COVID there a couple weeks ago and he said once you get to the other
side of the aches and fever and the chills too or something you know you feel like you're you feel
like you're in Antarctica and then like three minutes later it's like oh my god we are in
the hottest place on earth you know what I mean like it's just the chills the fever and then the aches are
really the nuisance of this thing you know what i mean and then i think i'm past that now i'm
experiencing the chest shit that everybody's talking about but it's just been annoying as
hell to be honest with you seclusion's bad for me i'm fucking you know what i mean i get along
so i don't like and i've been having to hang out by myself all the time yeah it's got to be tough
what about as you said earlier a couple days ago, you still had your flavor?
Is your taste and smell still there?
Yeah, my incredible wife just made me a turkey and ham sandwich.
We're currently eating outside.
She's back there.
Because we've got to have these socially distant COVID dates
where we just stare at each other.
What's up, dude? What's up, dude?
What's up, dude?
Good to see you, dude.
That's what we do.
And that turkey ham, shredded lettuce.
Damn!
Light mayo.
What?
Toasted bread.
What?
Jalapeno chips. What? Potato salad? What? Come on. Jalapeno chips?
What?
Potato salad?
What?
What?
I froze up in the middle of that there, but I don't know if you guys got the potato salad or not.
It was mustard-based, which makes it good, but not, you know, my favorite's mayonnaise-based.
She knows that.
This was last second, but
I'm feeling much better today though. I will be honest
Is this a baby?
Yeah, this is the first sandwich. I've really had last night. I tried to eat something because I thought I could eat
But I tried It was another sandwich of sorts.
And I just couldn't even get it down.
I just had no want to.
You know what I mean?
And I'm a big time eater.
This has never happened to me before.
So I'm wondering now, is my stomach smaller?
Should I take advantage of this?
Am I going to have a 10 pack, an 8 pack, a 12 pack?
Am I a fucking fitness model on Instagram now?
That's what I'm wondering.
If you had to guess, how much do you think you've lost, like 10 pounds?
Like have you lost some weight?
So I think you guys know that I lose weight quick.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
Like easy come, easy go for me weight-wise.
So I think I've lost probably 10 to 15.
I'll know whenever I get on the scale. I don't have one at that house
There's only one down at the office. I'll hop in the scale, but it does when I look at myself in the morning
It is quite a smaller me than I'm used to you know, it was a little love handle
You've been able to dump it
So I squeezed out some rabbit turds this morning
they said i haven't pooped yet just to see if i could do it but it was a strenuous push
so it wasn't like a natural flowing grump you know so hopefully after this sandwich here
the mustard based potato salad really loosened some stuff up in there
you know what i mean? Love you, Pat.
Hey, Zito.
Tell Pat, don't we have
some guests coming on at 2 o'clock hour?
Yes, the fancy footballers.
They're going to talk some fancy football.
Tony?
Is that that...
Jason Moore is one of them, yes.
That's that show that
they gave the projections on where...
Julio.
Julio was going to...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like those dudes.
Oh, yeah.
They did a little Ciceliano situation the other day, too.
One of their chairs went down and it became a whole thing.
I think.
Yikes.
I'm not sure.
Hey, everybody, can I do a public service announcement?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
I mean, I'm seeing people on Twitter, their names
are like, Ciceliano's legs are still
spinning or something like that.
And then Ciceliano's a tiny
little elf. Come on.
Can't do that. Hey,
listen, everybody needs to relax.
Remember, this is not ever
something against Ciceliano.
This is always against NFL Network's
treatment of Ciceliano. I know people against NFL Network's treatment of Ciceliano.
I know people
are doing it for the laughs and the chuckles.
But when I see those,
I have to think to myself, that short
little bastard Ciceliano can't be
happy about this, especially because we were
going to bat for him.
You said we are a
pro-go Ciceliano
show.
Go!
This entire time.
Do you think he appreciates us shining a bright light on what's going on over there?
I'll tell you what.
Let's see how we sit in this weekend for these games.
You know, let's see if the NFL Network learned anything.
You know, we're just trying to raise a little awareness.
That's right.
That's all we're trying to do.
This is just like the punching in public thing.
We don't promote this type of stuff. We're just
raising awareness that it exists.
Boom. Hey, Ciceliano
deserves to be treated a little bit better by
NFL Network where they place
him at. Let's hope
this weekend they've learned a little lesson. I am
kind of worried that they might one-up it and
just have him sit on a footstool
or something and really sell it.
I wouldn't put it past them either.
Nope.
Ciceliano is not the kind of guy to raise
a big stink or make a massive
ordeal about something this small.
Oh, come on.
Jeez.
Hey, Pat.
I'll get off of Ciceliano, that topic.
When we talked to Ross Tucker, so Ross has done all the Eagles preseason games.
He interviews Sirianni before every game.
I think he said he's talked to him five times already.
He said, Sirianni, the players are digging it.
They're buying in.
Now, we didn't have Sirianni do a presser with Ross on.
I did mention that Ty was a big fan,
but the boys think maybe it was a missed opportunity
that I could have set Ty up to kind of go into Siciliano.
Not Siciliano, Sirianni.
Well, and I think I've heard Ross Tucker call a couple of those Eagles games
on NFL Network.
Yeah, that's right.
What was that?
I said, yeah, that's right.
No, you definitely have.
You definitely have because Pat's Eagles last uh last week on thursday was a ross tucker joint and we watched that right
watched the entire thing front to back pat in the office though also we watched it right uh-huh
put it on in the office too yeah so we turned that into a podcast a little bit and i enjoyed him
in the broadcast booth but i i don't know if I would have gotten to that question.
That's why you're probably a much better interviewer than I am.
But if it comes up that he is doing interviews with a guy that we do interviews with on a daily basis, I think you should have potentially linked those two together, you know, be a matchmaker there.
I'm not saying you missed it because I don't know the flow and where you wanted to go.
You've got a big-ass head with a big brain and everything like that.
But that does feel like a potential missed opportunity
because I have not heard Sirianni speak other than that opening press conference.
And in my head, he is Ty.
Yeah.
That is who he is.
So it would be nice to get a little bit of confirmation or denial
on whether or not Ty is accurate in his depiction
of the new Philadelphia Eagles head coach.
You're saying the players are liking him.
That makes sense to me because I like him every time he speaks on our show.
I fucking love him.
So I think I probably am pretty reminiscent of the locker room if I had to guess.
Ross Tucker said they might win 10 games this year, the Eagles.
Who?
Ross Tucker.
He said the Eagles might win 7, 8, 9 win 10 games this year. The Eagles. Who? Really? Ross Tucker. He said the Eagles might win 7, 8, 9, 10 games this year.
What do you think?
I don't think that's the case.
Maybe.
I wonder what Sirianni does during the day of a game.
Does Sirianni?
All right.
Like, I'm wondering how he got off.
Why are we going to do this to all these Italian dudes?
Okay? Why is this your...
Does it just happen to be that? It's a very anti-Italian show.
Well, we can also...
You're the most anti-Italian guy there is, by the way.
First, you were going to bat
for Cuomo, okay?
Then you were propagandizing
false stories about Cuomo
to make him look even worse, Giulio.
Oh, you think that scumbag, you trusted what he's saying over the fucking tabloids?
I guess they're kind of one and the same, though, at this point.
But, yeah, we need to start being nicer to the Italians.
You hear me?
I think we need to start being nicer to the Italians.
They've been through enough.
You know what I mean?
They've been through enough.
But, uh, 10 games, that was kind of a – I mean, that's put me in a full COVID brain melt.
I mean, NFC stinks, I guess.
So that's got to give you a little hope, right?
Yeah, maybe they could get it done.
And plus, if you do want to not bash any more Italians,
I don't know if Zoloc's Italian or not,
but did you hear about
rap music making cam newton you know a worse player or no what's the deal with some of these
older whites like legit and i know i am an older white at this point and i'm getting older by the
minute especially with uncle kovitz swinging at my face every single second of the day right now
but why like when that comes out of his mouth, you think he says, yeah, fucking good take, dude,
and then walks it off?
Or do you think as soon as that comes out of his mouth, he's like, I shouldn't have
said that.
That was very dumb.
I'm an idiot.
He's calling Patriots games too, right?
That's another local broadcast?
Yeah, he was the dude from the first Patriots game with the football team that was on NFL
Network that we heard.
Yeah.
Yeah, so he's a representative of the Patriots, which makes sense, right?
I think that makes sense, which is what a lot of people
would say, you know,
whenever they say they want Matt Jones over Cam
Newton, the reason, you know,
why New England fans were potentially being
attacked and called
racist.
Whoa!
Whoa!
Because Scott Zolak is coming out and saying dumb things like this,
and it paints a broad brush over everybody in New England.
It's like, you think just because the guy listens to music that's upbeat.
Did you hear what I said to Ice Cube the other day?
I'm very white.
I'm a very Caucasian male, so I guess that is what Scott Zolak would say.
But I told Ice Cube, like, hey, we need bangers.
Like, music is the thing that motivates me, that drives me.
And you go to any practice,
any weight room, it's going to be the same exact
thing. So it's just an abattage thing to say by Scott
Zolak, but, I mean, what do you expect?
He's a New England Patriot representative.
Yeah, but
hey, the point I asked, though, the question
I asked was, don't you think Bill Belichick or
McDaniels would shut this down if they felt like it was
a real issue? Yeah!
Yeah, yeah, it's not a real issue.
I mean, this isn't a real thing.
This is made up in the head of a guy who's an idiot, obviously.
And he's from Pittsburgh, isn't he?
Yeah, he's from Ringgold, I believe.
That's not good for us either, I guess.
So maybe I should have just buried all of New England there
because he is technically from where we're from.
That's okay.
Is that close to Plum?
No, it's on the other side of town.
It's where Joe Mantegna came from.
Next to Squirrel Hill.
The actor?
No.
The guy in the Lipitor commercial?
No, the quarterback.
Hey, it's not next to
Turtle Creek either.
Dang it.
Oh, Billy Gardell.
I was going to say, don't be making
fucking cracks about Billy Gardell. That's who I'm thinking. I was going to say, don't be making fucking cracks about Billy Gardell.
Come on, dude.
Okay?
Get it right.
I didn't make a crack about him.
I saw that.
He's like for a-
It's Ozempic, not Lipitor.
Ozempic.
You asshole.
He has a sweet mustache, too.
He does.
He's running fucking cone drills up there, dude.
He's running a weave drill on those cones in the Ozempic, dude.
I mean, that's- I'm fucking happy to see Billy Gardell living his best life. He's running a weave drill on those cones in the Ozempic, dude. I mean, that's...
I'm fucking happy to see Billy Gardell living his best
life. He's also in that show.
Yeah, Bob Hart's Agashiola.
Wait, what? That's what it's called.
Abishola. Okay.
Come on, dude.
You've watched every episode of it.
It's Abishola. Bob Hart's Agashiola.
No, it's Abishola. Okay.
Good God. What network? It's on CBS, dude's Abishola, okay? Good God.
What network?
It's on CBS, dude.
It's the fucking best show on CBS.
What is it called?
What's the real name?
It's Bob Hart's Agashiola.
No, it's Bob Hart's Abishola.
God damn you, Ty.
I've seen every episode of it.
You haven't seen one.
Yes, I have.
So don't fucking come at me and try to tell me what my favorite program starring
Billy Gardell is called. You don't even
know the name of Billy's love, and that
is Abishola. It's a gahiola.
Okay, and that's the end of it. Good
Lord. Alright.
Glad we got that figured
out. Me too. I'm pretty pumped
about it. I'm gonna go watch that show.
Hey, have you started watching Ted
Lasso yet?
You should pound out these five episodes.
Now six.
The sixth one's out today.
It is unbelievable.
I know it's unbelievable, and I've gotten over my anger with Ted Lasso because they're going to do the same thing with the morning show, aren't they?
Yeah, and the other show that released today, the show C.
I don't know if you've seen it yet with Jason Momoa and our guy
Don Batista now.
Don Batista and Momoa, too. They're making a
buddy cop film, I guess, as well. I've seen that
on the internet. But the morning show,
nobody gives a fuck one episode
at a time, Apple. Give us five.
Give us five
at a time, dude. You guys created
this world. What are we even doing?
But I don't have
apple tv in my room where i'm staying so i haven't been able to watch that haven't been able to watch
it now would be the perfect time and also if i was to watch that without my wife might cause
another war uh okay i did uh i did see that bob ross documentary though you were right it could
have been about a half hour shorter but it was very cool to see like i didn't realize how absolutely mad like him going to
grand central park and like the amount of people that came up just to see him paint was insane
yeah they didn't know he's popular at the time because he was just painting tiny little studios
and then he goes and has a painting session in grand central or whatever central park
and uh it's just the whole park is basically filled up with people and they're like oh fuck we have a superstar here it's like yeah no shit
no everybody wants to see old Robert Ross paying out here fuck the Kowalskis
though in Malcolm coach Kowalski is one of my coach Kowalski is one of my
favorite coaches in the history of soccer he's this Polish man who drank
beers warm and we had a high-pitched voice he's a good guy killer kowalski absolute
legend in the wrestling business trained a lot of our favorite legends and icons uh but the
kowalskis that i'm referring to it'll be fuck them forever they're a terrible group of people
those kowalskis terrible i'm gonna have to watch this hey pat who is uh who is going to sit in for
you tonight at smackdown i'm not sure i not sure. I don't know who that is.
Who was on deck? Who would even be in the running?
Who does that? I don't know.
Honestly, I have no idea.
Corey Graves could come over. Would they do that?
That seems like that's the most logical
move, but I've not been told
that.
I know Michael Cole is not exactly
thrilled about me missing this
and then missing next week too because Jay's wedding. Michael Cole is not exactly thrilled about me missing this and then missing next week too, right, because Jay's wedding.
So Michael Cole is mocking me because he's missed two shows in 25 years,
and here I am, Uncle COVID and then Bro Bro's wedding.
I got stuff going on.
So, I mean, it is – it's going to be a long two weeks here.
Should I – I'm going to watch – I don't know how I'm going to –
I'm like – What are you going to watch? long two weeks here. I'm going to watch. I don't know how I'm going to feel.
What are you going to watch?
Yeah, and I'll watch because I love wrestling or whatever, but the last three days
watching you guys do the show,
I've hated it immensely.
I've hated it.
Dripping in sweat.
Not the show. I've liked the show.
I've hated the feeling that I've had, though,
not being in there.
I like the thought of being in hated the feeling that I've had, though, not being in there.
Like, you know, like, I like the thought of being in there. The game I was suspended after the October 20, 2010 situation that happened.
Just a miscommunication, I think, is what it really was.
But the cops have their story.
I have mine.
I've told it a couple times.
It's much more believable than theirs, for sure.
But that game I missed was it a couple times. It's much more believable than theirs for sure. But that game I
missed was like a Monday Night Football
game or Sunday Night Football game I think
against the Texans. Watching that game from
the house was one of the most
like sickening feelings I've
ever had in my life. And I don't want to say I've
had the similar thoughts here the last couple days
and tonight I'll probably feel the way. But it is
just something inside me where I'm like I fucked
this up. You know what I mean? And it's like, I don't, I just don't love it so much.
So I'm not happy.
I'm not going to be there.
Especially if something awesome happens.
I'm going to be so bummed that I didn't, you know, you know what I mean?
I would assume, is it still the summer of Cena?
Because I saw that that dude has another movie out now.
It was Vacation Friends.
Is that what it's called?
Yeah.
I'm not sure.
I'm definitely going to watch it, though,
because Cena only makes bangers. I believe the summer
of Cena's over.
Is he not wrestling anymore?
Yeah, Roman absolutely wiped him off
the face of the planet. Thank God he did,
too. But, Pat, to your point, it fucking
sucks here without you, too, man. We want
you back as soon as possible.
Plus, there's nothing you can really do.
You got the vaccine.
It's just kind of unlucky, not really part of the draw here how did you how my big question and i appreciate you for that connor i miss being around you guys a lot like
i miss it a lot i miss being around my wife like this is weird this is very weird this whole thing
um how did everybody you know like yeah i mean i was uh you're i was taking i
was giving you snaps on tuesday like it doesn't make any sense like it's just so random my wife
and i fornicated yeah hell yeah my wife thank you but you talking, that's a lot of things, you know, being exchanged there.
And how, like, how?
Makes no sense.
Yeah, you would think that at least like one or two of us would have tested positive after.
I mean, we were around you for what, two days before it happened?
So nothing you can do.
I don't know.
But also, I have no idea where I got it, because Cole, Michael Cole, was with me every step
of the way over there in SummerSlam.
He tested, he took a couple tests.
Yeah, hey, but hold on.
Pat, Michael Cole even said it, though.
Was Michael Cole jumping in the crowd between every match, dapping up random celebrities?
Okay, cool.
So what about my wife flying home with me her friend flying home with me everybody else
i don't claim to have any answers trust me i don't think anybody does yeah it is very weird
how this all plays out what i'm saying is i don't think i got it in vegas though i think i got it
somewhere like maybe monday at the gas station i like you could it could have even been on like
you know if you got like subway on monday from on Monday and it was on, you know, what you ate your Subway.
Now, Fogel's in jail.
Okay, so Fogel didn't give me COVID.
He's getting out soon, unfortunately.
Unfortunately, you said you were pumped about it, you scumbag.
Okay.
I saw the text you sent to the owner.
Yeah.
You're pumped about it.
Produce that text. Put that up to the camera, guys.
I deleted it, I believe, but I could see if I still got it.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hey, this show cannot become like that.
At least one person needs to stick up for the unstick up for a bit.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I agree.
What does that mean exactly?
Okay, like, think about it, run it back.
I'm not sure I'll be able to say it as cleanly and smoothly the second time
as I did the first time.
I'm to be honest.
With Fogle, it sounds like there's some people we can just let die.
You know what I mean?
100%.
Okay, yeah, well, good.
We'll put a list together of who we let go, who we send out, and we still keep her out.
Number one on that list, Guy Fieri.
Put him at the top.
The guy stinks.
Oh, man.
Oh, all right.
I wasn't thinking Guy Fieri, but I mean, yeah, more like I wasn't Guy Fieri.
I mean, see, that's a's a problem too That all of a sudden
We're lumping
Jared Fogle
And
Others
With Guy Fieri
The guy said
He's gonna make me famous
I think that's a nice guy
Um
Alright
I'm gonna go try to dry off
From the sweat
I'm gonna go try to poop
To
That sandwich
I can't thank you guys enough
The show's good
I'll call back in the
Third hour though
I appreciate you.
Good luck, Pookie. Feel better, Pat.
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Let's get back to the show.
You know, so this guy, or I think we only have one.
We have a guy coming on, one of three.
There's three co-hosts on this show that they do.
This podcast they've built up into an absolute juggernaut,
bigger than all the big networks that have their fantasy shows
and all of this stuff.
So I'm curious.
So, boys, I know a lot of you play fantasy football.
What kind of questions would you have?
Oh, I mean, we got to know the sleepers.
Got to know the sleepers.
We got to know the rookies that they think are going to get a lot of burn this year
who might overperform.
How do people already have – I feel like there's already been –
people have already had drafts, haven't they?
Oh, yeah.
Some people have drafted two weeks ago.
Should you wait until final cut?
You absolutely should.
You always wait until the week of opening night on Thursday.
Always.
And definitely after the final preseason game
because then injuries are taken out pretty much.
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
Ideally, you're drafting on Wednesday night of next week.
Yeah, that's kind of the go-to time.
You either do Tuesday or Wednesday.
I've heard a couple different guys that have been around
that have said they were going to their fantasy draft
or just had their fantasy draft.
I don't know, but the good thing is I think we have him dialed up right now, so
please welcome Mike Wright, the fantasy
footballers. This guy, what he's built, what
they've done. He's a co-host of the fantasy footballers.
It's just gigantic right now,
so please welcome Mike Wright.
Yeah!
Mike, what's happening, man? I was trying to ask the boys
what's... Everyone has
questions about this, what you're supposed to do.
People are doing fantasy drafts, at least around me in Ohio, right now.
Is that just stupid?
If you were able to hold off until right now, it's not the worst
because with the difference of preseason.
I mean, you know that it changes things of having only three games.
Usually the rule of thumb was wait until week three is done of preseason
because then you know that the starters should be relatively safe.
You're not going to get a huge news dump potentially.
But as of right now, I mean, we're still waiting on a few things.
The Jameis news that he is the starting quarterback for the Saints,
we got that out of the way, So now you can adjust your players accordingly, like where
you can feel a little bit safer with the Alvin Kamara dump offs from Jameis as compares to
Taysom Hill because he has the rushing ability that Jameis doesn't. But we're still waiting on
San Francisco. I mean, we've been recommending on the footballers that Trey Lance should be
one of your last picks, even if you already have your quarterback, because as soon as he gets on
the field, he immediately jumps into top 10 consideration, even top five with that cannon
paired with the rushing ability. And you could have a draft right now and get Trey Lance as a steal.
And by next Wednesday, we could have an alert that says
Trey Lance is actually starting week one.
So there's still some stuff that needs to settle out.
But for the most part, I think we're good.
I don't think we're going to see a lot of starters
over this last week at a preseason.
So you should be okay right now.
But I'm with your crew that wait as late as you possibly can. It seems like common sense. You had to wait until the final
rosters are out. I've heard a lot of different actors and celebrities out there. They talk about
they have these fantasy leagues. They compete against each other. Do you have any, I'm guessing
there's probably some big time actors and celebrities that reach out to you to try to
get your advice? A, do you charge them ever? And could you give us some names of some people that actually surprised you
that reached out that wanted some advice from you?
Sure.
I've actually now created a pretty strong online friendship with,
I don't know if you guys are familiar with the Try Guys.
They are massive.
And Ned and me, we've connected over fantasy football.
He came out.
We did a live show at the Largo a couple years ago over in California.
He came out.
He was my guest.
And we go back and forth quite a good bit on the DMs.
We've gotten into talking about life, and he's a new parent and everything.
So he's probably the biggest celebrity who has slid into the DMs,
so to speak.
We've talked with Cooper Cup a little bit.
He's actually, we found out he's a fan of our comedy show,
The Spitballers.
He does steer away from fantasy football.
And then we've done, over the past couple years,
we did a bigger league with guys like Ninja, Tim the Tat Man, Zac Efron was in there.
So we've mixed it up with some big names.
I wonder if you ask Zac Efron about his new jaw, his new face.
I don't know what's going on there, man.
He looks good.
Hey, he looks good, just different to me for some reason.
Hey, who in fantasy football, like are there a group,
is there a segment of people that play fantasy football
that maybe don't paint it in as good a light as it should or give it a bad name or make other people not want to do fantasy?
Yeah, just like all aspects of life, there are some D-gens out there.
And it's not too late.
You can change your ways.
But, I mean, the most visible like are the people who are tagging
players on twitter saying you let down my fantasy team like there's really no place at all to to tag
a player in any negative connotation if if you're tagging a player it better be hey man you know
we'll get them next week or saying thank you. You know, hey, appreciate that performance.
That was big time for my fantasy league.
And what a cool thing that has kind of come about in the last couple years
is really the charity portion of fantasy football.
Like, so our ultimate draft kit, a dollar of every sale from that product
goes right to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.
And we've seen players taking things to another level where when a player goes off,
like in championship week, you find out their charity of choice,
the one that they support the most or they're involved with,
and you say, I'm going to make a donation.
I'm going to take some of my winnings.
I'm going to take 10%, send it to the charity that you support.
So we've seen a lot of that, things starting to spin in the positive direction
for fantasy football.
That's good.
Yeah, no one wants to be all negative, and then you don't want current NFL
players to hate everybody that plays fantasy.
Speaking of hating people, we have a guy, Boston Conner.
I know he has a big question for you about something going on.
I know it's going to be Patriots related, probably Mac Jones.
But, Conner, what do you have?
Yeah, you know what, AJ?
I'll pivot because I'm not going to do that.
And you're right, a lot of people do hate me.
Mike, what do we think about deciding on what rookies to take?
I personally think that Najee Harris is probably the number one rookie
to have off the board this year.
But how do you go about deciding that, depending on who the quarterback is, really?
Sure. I'm with you. I'm all in on Najee Harris. Mike Tomlin has already showed the hand in
preseason that Najee Harris is his guy, which shout out to Tomlin for not doing the song and
dance of, well, the rookie's got to earn his way up. Maybe he's the starter.
Maybe he's the backup.
We just got an announcement out of Jacksonville that Trevor Lawrence is going to be the starting quarterback.
Oh, come on.
Come on.
Stop wasting everyone's time on that team.
Put him in as the starter.
We all know it's going to be him.
But Najee Harris is in line for a tremendous workload.
Just look back to Le'Veon Bell.
Look back to James Conner when he had to be the guy
when Lev Bell had the year he held out.
Najee Harris can be objectively bad at football
and still be an incredible fantasy football pick
with all the volume that he's going to see.
Now, I don't think he's bad.
I think Najee Harris is going to be incredible for that team.
And in the second round, by the end of the year, to me,
he's going to look like a value.
The other guys, you know, I already mentioned, like,
Trey Lance at the end of drafts right now is someone I'm targeting everywhere.
Javante Williams is very interesting.
The rookie running back drafted in the second round by the Denver Broncos.
We did a deep study here for fantasy football,
and running backs drafted in the second round in the last 10 years,
they have a 73% chance, or not chance, I'm sorry,
73% of the time those rookies have produced higher fantasy numbers
by the end of the season than the veteran, than the incumbent over there.
So in the sixth round, I'm cool taking Javante Williams
because he's a great player and the history is on his side.
You might have to wait a few weeks for that to really become a powerhouse
for your team.
Like look back to Miles Sanders when he was drafted in the second round
by Philadelphia.
The beginning of the year, it was a little bit rocky.
And then over the last 60% of the season,
you did see him take over and help out teams.
Well, I know our resident Steelers fan, Diggs, COVID cowboy.
Diggs was the fantasy expert here on the show.
I guess he has retired.
He claims he cannot help everybody.
Diggs, what was your question?
God damn it, AJ.
Mike, the one question that everyone wants to know,
because they know the big names, they know everything like that,
is the sleepers.
Who do you think is going to have a breakout year
that we have no idea it's coming right now?
Sure.
I mean, he's awakening a little bit,
and since we were talking about the Patriots,
I'll mention Damien Harris is interesting at the running back position the ceiling is capped because he will be used on first and second down
but Sonny Michelle was straighted away to the Rams I mean that was probably more of a vote of
confidence for rookie Ramondre Stevenson but but Damien Harris is interesting especially
you have to project that Mac Jones will be starting sooner or later. And the biggest knock on Damian Harris was that Cam Newton is incredible at the goal line and
vultures those touchdowns. But once Mac is in, those should go to Damian Harris. And then for
the wide receiver position, I'll throw out the name Michael Pittman for the Indianapolis Colts.
He's a second year player. He was like, remember what happened? All the hype is on those first round wide receivers
from 2020 because they all, except for Jalen Rager, it was a lot of hits there, especially
Justin Jefferson coming in for the Vikings and setting the rookie record.
But Pittman was drafted very shortly after Brandon Iyuk. And now Carson Wentz, does he have it left?
That remains to be seen. But Michael Pittman
looks like he can take over and become the number one for that team. The past two years,
T.Y. Hilton is only averaging 50 yards a game. He'll still help out the team, but I don't think
that he is, he's not the number one anymore. So you have a very ambiguous situation. And Michael
Pittman prototypes as an alpha wide receiver with his I mean he's a 6'3
6'4 220 pounds he's a big dude he could get it done yards after catch we saw that already last
year on a lot of crossing routes but I think he's a player that can take the jump and he's going in
10th the 11th round of fantasy drafts while the all the attention's on the other second year
players so you can sneak Pittman on your team for a value. Ty Schmitz next what's up Ty? Mike when you were
looking at different guys this season and you're you know doing like your your rankings or whatever
did you have to look into like vaccination status at all or like are you trying to stay away from
some of those guys because you don't know if they might you know burn you and and not be available
on Sunday morning?
And also, what kind of year do you think Randall Cobb is going to have fantasy-wise?
Where does he stack up in your rankings currently?
Sure. First, for the vaccination, I think the only one we're very confident is Cole Beasley.
He's out there saying he's not vaccinated. So you can take that for however you want to play fantasy football.
But we don't have a true database of who is and who is not.
We're going to trust in the protocols and really hope that these guys
can stay on the field.
So it hasn't impacted my personal projections because I can't say for sure
who is and who is not.
And then for Randall Cobb, he – it's been so long
since we've seen Randall Cobb really do anything of note,
even on the Packers with Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, you know, we're talking like eight years or so
since we saw Randall Cobb have that breakout season.
Meanwhile, I mean, he'll be a safety blanket
and a trusted player for Aaron Rodgers to go to.
And we all know the name Devontae Adams, so I don't even need to talk about him.
He's one of the best wide receivers in the league.
The name I will bring up, because for a sleeper, Marquez Valdez-Scantling,
who has kind of been left for dead by the fantasy community.
No, a decent draft capital pick, but the beat reporters out of Green Bay,
like that drumbeat for MVS has just slowly been building
and getting louder and louder.
And like they're talking about,
he's been one of the best players in camp.
I don't know if he can overtake Alan Lazard
just based off of what he's done in training camp,
but we've seen the big playability from him on the field
hitting those 60, 70-yard receiving touchdowns.
So he's a name that I'm going to monitor over Randall Cobb
because at this point I don't think that the fantasy ceiling
is truly there for Cobb anymore,
where MVS, if he does actually take that step and break out,
he'll be a wide receiver flex play that can really pour that nitro
onto your weekly score.
Need that, Nos.
Hey, last thing for me before I know Connor has one more as well.
You mentioned Randall Cobb.
Now, are you going to see a lot of these fantasy drafts
where people jump out and they take Randall higher than they normally would
just because of how much pub Aaron has given him
and they brought him over and it's all this news and we know how much Aaron loves
throwing to him.
Like, are a lot of people going to take him pretty high?
I don't think so.
We haven't seen that now.
We are on the footballers where our podcast goes year round.
I mean, we as soon as January hits, we're still doing two shows a week all the way until
July where we jump to three.
So we're a little bit more hardcore,
but we do try to cater our show to everyone from hardcore to casuals. And with the Sharps, you know,
drafting best ball over the offseason and the hardcore players,
Randall Cobb really hasn't been on that fantasy radar.
When you get into your home leagues,
people who are just picking up uh fantasy football
like they're they're uh grabbing a magazine which is by the way outdated i would recommend picking
up the ultimate draft kit which stays updated but they might see that news and go i recognize
randall cobb all it's uh he could jump up in those home leagues especially if you got some green bay
fans know your league green bay fans they like to draft their players. We have one in the office who is always pushing
Robert Tunyon on us. Big bub. Yeah, he's interesting, to say the least. But I don't
think Randall Cobb is someone that you need to worry about. And if you're in a home league where
someone's going to take Cobb, just take the value that has pushed a more relevant player towards
you. All right, Connor, what do you have? Yeah, Mike, a lot of people like the first pick. In
your opinion, what pick is the best? Is it three? Is it seven? And then you mentioned some of the
rookie quarterbacks. Is there any value in Trevor Lawrence or is his O-line so bad that he might get
killed before the end of the year? Do you mean like as in you're in the first round? Yeah. Where do you want to pick from? Yeah.
I'm still on the Christian McCaffrey train.
I know it burned a lot of people last year, but it was injury.
And it was like a random assortment of injuries that I don't think are related.
When you talk to like check out the fantasy doctors on Twitter
and we don't see a correlation between these injuries.
And look what he did in those, I think, three games.
I think he played three.
He was elite.
He was back to being Christian McCaffrey.
So part of fantasy football is separating yourself from the emotions of last year
and the people that I've seen the questions.
Like, I took McCaffrey last year.
He killed my team.
Do I really take him again?
And it's, yeah, you do because Christian McCaffrey is two players
in one starting fantasy slot.
He's a wide receiver and a running back.
And with small sample but with Matt Ja Rule, as we call him on the show,
we know that he's going to be out there just feeding McCaffrey nonstop.
So if I can pick my spot, I'm still taking that advantage.
Now, for Trevor Lawrence, I'm not concerned about the career of Trevor Lawrence.
I won't argue with the scouts.
He's the best quarterback prospect since Andrew Luck is the quote.
For fantasy purposes, he's surrounded by some solid talent with DJ Chark,
the addition of Marvin Jones, and LaVisca Chenault,
whose value should see an uprise.
Unfortunately, the injury to rookie running back Travis Etienne,
I think that manufactures some more interesting targets for LaVisca Chenault.
But Trevor Lawrence is, yeah, he's okay, I think, as a quarterback, too.
He's not someone I'm targeting in my drafts.
You know, in that scheme with Urban Meyer,
let's see if the college offense can really work in the NFL.
The vibes of Trevor Lawrence in the preseason haven't been,
like, he's tearing it up
like Zach Wilson is doing up in New York.
So he's a name I'm going to
monitor and watch, but he's not someone
I'm going after in my draft.
Awesome. Hey, Mike, I really, really appreciate
the info. We'll be following along. I know you guys have
built up a giant thing you have
going over there, but thanks again
for your time, ladies and gentlemen. Mike Wright.
Thanks.
Appreciate you, bud. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
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Appreciate you, bud.
Thank you.
He's got a nice setup, too.
Audio sounds great.
Video looks great.
I might need to call his tech guy, actually.
Get some tips.
Get him to set me up.
Even if you get tips.
Tron Z.
Yeah.
Wow.
Z's great.
Wow.
Oh, is that why you laughed after that?
You're a sack of shit.
Is that why you laughed after that?
You sarcastic prick.
That was very quick.
Very quick, Ty.
Good job.
All right.
That's the show.
Once again, we can't thank you guys enough for watching, listening,
interacting with us, all that stuff.
There's so much shit and content out there,
and the fact that you guys continue to come back and spend your time with us,
we appreciate the hell out of it.
We are so close to football. So close. Hopefully by Monday, Pat's back in studio feeling better.
Have an incredible weekend. We will see you guys on Monday. Cheers. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា Bye.