The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 484 - NFL Football Is 10 Days Away, Jay Cutler, & Yahoo Sports NFL Insider Charles Robinson

Episode Date: August 30, 2021

On today's show, Pat is still in the Covid cave, but is officially feeling much much better. Pat and the boys chat about the news that TY Hilton has an injury that could potentially be season ending, JK Dobbins tearing his ACL and being out for the season, raising the question, how important is it for guys to play in the preseason, how good Josh Allen looked in the Bills last preseason game against the Packers, the Mac Jones/Cam Newton QB battle, how electric yesterday's sudden death playoff between Patrick Cantlay and Bryson Dechambeau, and all the fallout from the Jake Paul/Tyron Woodley fight. Joining the program is Pro Bowler, one of the 100 Greatest Bears of All-Time, former starting QB for the Broncos, Bears, and Dolphins, and host of the new Uncut Podcast, Jay Cutler. Pat and Jay chat about his NFL career, how the media treated him while he was in the league, if there is anything he'd like to change about his career, why he was apprehensive to get into the media, his experience being on a reality show, the current state of the NFL, and much more (30:03-1:01:46). Next, Yahoo Sports NFL Insider, Charles Robinson joins the get us caught up to speed on the Deshaun Watson situation after he reported that at least 5 teams were still interested in Watson, what the Texans asking price was, and the timeline of when we may start to get some answers (1:01:48-1:17:56). Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Monday, August 30th, 2021. I can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes on this gorgeous Monday. I'm back today, chit-chatting with the boys, having a conversation with Jay Cutler about his new podcast, Uncut with Jay Cutler and everything else happening in his life. Charles Robinson stops by with some inside information from Yahoo Sports. And I give a little update on where I am, how I am, and where the world is hopefully headed. Let's have a good time today. Can't thank you enough for this. If you enjoy the show, by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend.

If not, just act like it never happened. Let's get to it, Ty. Today's show is going to be fucking impeccable. At Ty Schmidt, at Boston Connors, sitting at the Toxic Table. Boys, how you doing? Doing great, Pat. And more so than that, it's great to have you back. You look like you're doing well. You're feeling well. We feel whole again. It's nice. I mean, the toxicity can only last so long when we don't have you sitting up here. So it's good to have you back and you feeling better.

It has been fantastic to be away from your guys' toxic day-to-day here for a few days. At Boston Conner, I see you wearing your brand-new jersey. How many days from the NFL season are we at Boston Conner? We are Matt Jones days away, Pat. Ten to be specific. I am absolutely juiced. Just saw him release a nice little commercial. First post since the draft.

He doesn't go on social media much. We are officially on Team Noble. Noble for the entire season. Let's go. I don't know what Noble is. I always thought that was potentially like the rock shit. That's not the rock stuff or that is the rock stuff? No, it's like a different company.

I don't think it is the rock stuff it's like big in the um the fitness world the uh the um what's the that world where they like just jumping jacks all day long and then crossfit crossfit that world boom yeah okay at tone digs also big in the crossfit world as you can tell super fitness guy um i will give you an update here uh jay good to see you, by the way, back there in the glass. Good to see you too, brother. Good to see you too. Looking good. Zito, thank you.

Foxy, Bill, everybody in the back. Nick, can't thank you guys enough for all the support. At Bubba Gumpino was either swimming in some something, whatever the case. He is. He'll be home for the next 10 days i believe the text message i got so i'll tease and peas to add bubba gumpino uh all the boys have continued to test negative which is great news my wife is now on day three here of battling against old

uncle kovat i think she's potentially almost through the thick of it. I'm out of the deep shit, which I'm very thankful for. My fever broke three days ago. The aches stopped at the same time as that. The chills disappeared as well. I still have some congestion and some shit that's coming out of my body that I've never seen before. We're talking big old to get out of there but by all accounts i'm about out of the woods on this thing and i'm very thankful my wife hopefully is only a day or two behind me it's just uh from everything i've been reading now i've been i've been receiving a lot of visceral uh good word by the way thank you coming through you know, I read the dictionary a couple times, maybe pick up some new words.

Oh, yeah. New words. But we've been talking about the COVID from the very beginning and the vaccination and everything, basically. And I've been pretty steadfast on the fact that this is not just a political party thing. Okay? A lot of people think, oh one in most things that are political there's one side that is on the right side and then there's uh on the left side

and then they just sit there and yell at each other and i think the interesting thing about this whole thing with the vax and the covid rollout and everything like that is there's people on both parties that hate each other okay so this isn't just necessarily a party thing this is a a big issue you're either a pro-vax or an anti-vax. Or you're a COVID promoter or you're somebody who doesn't believe COVID even exists. Okay. So I, and this is not me saying this. I'm just observing and reporting that these are the humans that are out there.

I have somehow managed in my battle with this particular COVID for the last few days to piss off everybody. The people that are the big COVID backers, not backers, but you get it. The people that have been- Take it very seriously. Very serious. They're mad at me because I'm not taking it serious enough. I'm tweeting. I'm still posting.

I'm talking about it. I made an appearance on the show. They're mad at me because I'm giving off the appearance as it's not as bad as it is. Let me tell you, 104.5 degree fever. I'm not sure how much fucking worse it could be. I was close to brain damage having that happen. I just choose to enjoy my life no matter

what's going on, even though I will say COVID has been an absolute fucking miserable bitch to deal with. So those people are mad at me because I wasn't taking it serious enough in their eyes. Okay. Then there was other, the other side was mad at me because they don't even believe COVID exists. So the fact that I was even saying, Hey, I got this, this is what I'm experiencing. This is what my life is like. they're mad at me as well so it seems like in getting sick i did piss off everybody another day in the life happy to be okay and from

what i read it seems like i think everybody on earth is going to be getting this thing i'm not a harrison shore i'm not a harrison shore but from what i've read it feels like this delta variant in which they said does spread as fast as possible is going to spread as fast as possible. And I think this is something that we're all going to have to deal with. Hopefully, if you're vaccinated, you'll deal with it a lot easier and better. And if you're not vaccinated, do whatever the fuck you got to do. Your life just might be absolutely miserable. I would recommend because I still have my taste.

I still have my smell. I'm four days, five days removed from this thing. I feel good. I would not go back and change anything aside from whoever the fuck gave me COVID. I would have stayed away. Absolutely. I can't thank you all enough for, you know, kind of lifting me up when I was down, all the tweets, all the texts, all the messages, all the DMs, you guys doing the show, you have no idea. Watching the show from the COVID cave was a great sense of relief and, you know, like a little mental vacation for me.

So I appreciate you guys so much. But it is great to fucking feel where I feel right now as opposed to how I felt a couple days ago. Great to have you back, Pat. Fantastic, Pat. It feels like a real show again. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? AJ's not going to be here because he's at a golf outing.

Oh, jeez. This guy. He's got one every goddamn week. He's trying to save the world. That's what he's got to do. He's got to save the world, and hopefully he'll be able to do that. We will take some phone calls. 1-833-4-MACIFI.

Go ahead and call the 5-Hour Energy phone line. Can't wait to chat with the people. And by the way, I thought about the phone lines a lot. I've thought about a lot while you're kind of... I'm on house arrest right now. I'm on house arrest right now.

Absolutely. Martha Stewart. My wife and I... I mean, Martha a little bit different. She got rich off of the reason why she got house arrest. I kind of... Much different, but I get it. Yeah, very similar. I don't have an ankle bracelet on, and I didn't just befriend Snoop because of it,

but I've had to think about a lot of things. The phone calls, I'm going to be nicer to these callers. Really? You sure? That's how it should happen. Are you positive? Yeah, well, I was positive, and that led to me being house arrest and then that

led to me thinking i'm gonna be a little bit more positive with these callers i think i'm gonna give them a little bit more of a chance i'm gonna let them go ahead and breathe and talk and that's gonna be the new me out here whenever i handle the five iron your phone line sound like it yeah to counteract it that's the way to go to counteract it can you bring the hammer very swiftly and hardly when these people do inevitably, you know, drag on and give 15 shout outs and ask for a happy birthday? Yeah. And then, by the way, if we tell them to shut the fuck up, nobody wants to hear it, then

we're the terrible people and not them ruining our show, by the way. No, no, no. Not the people that we have built up this show literally minute, minute, hour, mile, mile, mile, build this thing up so you can come on and shit all over it and be terrible and make our show come to an exact halt because you want to give a shout out to somebody. We don't even know if they're real or not. Nope. But we're mean because we're not nice.

You know what? Maybe I'll play it by ear. I had a lot of thoughts maybe during this COVID cave that won't be real. For instance, I was going to start working out every morning. This morning, guess what? Didn't start. Didn't start. So maybe it'll start next week. It is something though, whenever you're locked in your house and you're not allowed to leave for, and for the first few days, my wife and I, we were trying to quarantine away from each other. We made a mistake. We made a fatal mistake. She,

we moved something. In that particular something, I guess there wasn't an immediate hand wash afterwards. It was almost like she knew to me. She was like, Oh no, I shouldn't have done that. She got the next day.

She's out of there. So there's been a lot of like hanging out, me and the wife here, you know, in her miserable times and everything like that. I think we need to continue to enjoy life though. Yeah, I think that is something we have to continue to do. Life gets put into perspective whenever your life gets kind of taken from you. And by that, I don't mean me losing my life, but I can't even go outside without feeling as if I'm fucking up or letting somebody down or potentially putting somebody in incredible danger. And I don't want them to have to go

through what I'm going through. We just need to continue to enjoy life. Make sure this show remains a mental vacation for people. And let's try to, you know, embrace the fact that there's a lot more good out there than negative. And we need to continue to look for it. So that's what we'll continue to do out here. Cannot wait to chat about all the things happening in the NFL.

Cause there's a lot going on. We'll talk about the Indianapolis Colts just so you know what the fuck. Oh, geez. Uh-oh. What do you want, Oli? Oh, man. Are you kidding me? I was through the roof when I woke up on Sunday and saw T.Y. was out.

Not because of T.Y. I love T.Y. But that means the Colts aren't going to be as good if he's not on the field. I mean, happy day, Pat. At Boston Conner, what he was referring to, there he is. The fact that T.Y. Hilton will not be in for the first couple games of the NFL season. But Frank Reich said something that made me fear that it's not just a couple games. Frank Reich said he's optimistic that this isn't season ending.

Okay, so if he was optimistic that this isn't season ending. So if he was optimistic that this isn't season ending, at least he's putting into the world that there's a chance that this could have been season ending. I guess it's a couple discs in his neck have been dislodged. Anytime you've got a disc talk or a neck talk, never good, especially whenever it's the guy, the weapon on your offensive side of the ball, especially somebody that has had an incredible connection with Carson Wentz very quickly in this offense. This NFL team and the Indianapolis Colts are ready to go on a run. The team is loaded.

The defense ready to fucking go. Special teams ready to go. They find Carson Wentz, pay him $100 million. They trade for him out of Philadelphia. Everybody's happy. Kumbaya, that big son of a bitch is back. He gets a broken foot somehow. Gets surgery, he's back. Quentin Nelson, he has the same foot surgery. He's back. He gets on the COVID protocol, close for contact. He's back after both of those things. You start thinking to yourself, this is going to be the

Colts year. Then all of a sudden, our number one weapon, T.Y. Hilton, who just signed for one year, $10 million is out indefinitely. Do we have enough weapons? Is this going to revolve back to that question of do we have enough weapons to make a run? If we have Julio Jones on the roster, are we as worried with T.Y. Hilton being out because of this whole situation? I'm not sure. Also, Tackle Tavi, I believe is his name. Yeah. He's out for a season with torn ACL.

The injury bug has just ran a train on the Indianapolis Colts so far. Tavi, I believe is his name. Yeah. He's out for a season with torn ACL. The injury bug has just ran a train on the Indianapolis Colts so far during this football training camp. And I have no idea what to think. Ian Rappaport is reporting that the Colts have activated guard Quentin Nelson from the reserve COVID-19 list in a practice today. They placed tackle Sam Tevye on IR, and now all eyes are on T.Y. Hilton. It's a nightmare to be an Indianapolis Colts fan. It seems like every day a new injury comes, a new nightmare,

a new big right hook right to the jaw. How are we doing? Keep it moving. We could win a Super Bowl, but I fear that it looks like we're in for another long season of hoping that something good happens. And you know what the thing is, Pat? Like the bad thing is like when teams get the injury bug, it seems like it's an entire season thing like this is gonna like the injury bug might be an entire season thing for the colts or maybe if you look at it optimistically it is the beginning

of the season we haven't even started yet maybe things will get better yeah in the first two weeks or nfc teams i saw jeff saturday talk about this about this, about how the first Seattle Seahawks and then I forget who else, but it's two NFC teams facing the Rams to start the season off. And Saturday said, just use those two NFC games as an extension of the preseason. Let's try to find some time

because nobody's been on the field together. Nobody's really been on the field together with injuries. Darius Leonard was even injured early in the training camp. So it's just the Colts, you know, made to the playoffs last year. The Colts have a roster ready to go. But the Colts might never get out of the stable because there's just so many fucking injuries happening.

It's disheartening. I'm not happy about it. Hopefully TY's okay, by the way, in the grand scheme of things. We hope your neck is all right. We hope everything like that. But I still believe there's going to be chances for us to be missing weapons. And Carson Wentz, how good can he be? He's obviously going to be better than he was last year when he had a rugby player blocking for him. The offensive line for the Colts is good.

The running backs are great. But I feel like there's a chance we're going to be missing some weapons, especially now with LTY. It just stinks, too, because the couple times we've talked to him in the offseason, it seemed like he almost had a new fire burning, kind of. He had last year where he wasn't really a decoy, but we talked about it with him. He wasn't really the focal point of the offense anymore, and it seemed like he had been really the focal point of the offense anymore and it seemed like he

had been building quite a bit of chemistry with Carson and was like very excited for this season and I think we all expected him to have a pretty massive year and just you know the I mean to your point I feel like a neck injury especially for someone who's so shifty and quick like him like if that's something that lingers all season even if he does come back are we going to get the same ty that we would have gotten if this would have never happened ty is very good at not getting hit so hopefully that'll be something that'll help him whenever he gets back one year deal was on a prove it deal so anytime somebody's on a one-year deal normally they're going to ball out had pretty good market um interest whenever he was a free

agent the ras offered him. I believe the Chiefs also. That might have been Juju. The Ravens definitely offered him, though. Some other things. He was looking to have a big year, a big bounce back year. I'm still going to hope for that, but I didn't love hearing Frank Reich say he's optimistic this isn't

season ending because that makes me think like, oh. So that's not a guarantee that it's not season ending. Yeah, exactly. Especially, like you said, with like the discs and the neck and the back. That stuff lingers. But you got to think, hey, Michael Pittman, here we go. Prove it.

And you got Michael Irvin's godson on the team. I mean, that kid might be the steal of the draft. Legit. Paris Campbell is also healthy. So is Trahan, Michael Pittman Jr. You know, I mean, there draft. Legit. Paris Campbell is also healthy. Josh Trahan, Michael Pittman Jr. I mean, there is... Doyle. Jack Doyle.

Let's go. Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Stable running backs. Yeah, the running back, Marlon Mack, Naheem Hines. I mean, there's a lot of weapons, and the offense is going to have to be run through that, but anytime you lose T.Y. Hilton, you're not happy about it. Jonathan Taylor, I heard him say, the younger backs are going to have to be run through that. But anytime you lose T.Y. Hilton, you're not happy about it. Jonathan Taylor, I heard him say, you know,

the younger backs are going to do their thing tonight. He's in his second year. I understand what he was saying. And I appreciate that he's that comfortable and content. But I'm really excited to see what Jonathan Taylor does with a full year starting. Last year, Marlon Mack was getting a lot of the reps early. Then he kind of got hurt. Naeem Hines, they used it as a full year starting. Last year, Marlon Mack was getting a lot of the reps early. Then he kind of got hurt.

Naeem Hines, they use it as a kind of a multiple back set. He could be a real animal, but no T.Y.'s, no good. Speaking of players getting knocked out for the year in preseason, if you're a Baltimore Ravens fan, you have to be so bummed out. The Baltimore Ravens are obviously one of the most elite preseason football teams in the history of preseason football, winning how many straight? 20. 20 straight preseason games. And whenever I say that preseason does not matter, that has to come with some context. I was introduced to the NFL preseason by a regime,

a team that literally said, let's not waste any wins in the preseason. Numerous times going completely defeated throughout the preseason, whenever it was Peyton Manning and Bill Polian's squad there with the Indianapolis Colts. There's reasons behind that, though. The reasons why I believe that the Colts, whenever Bill Polian was running the ship, and also even after that whenever Chuck Pagano and Grigson were running the ship what preseason wasn't great is because a lot of the money was spent at the top of the roster so in preseason you get a chance to check the depth of teams normally you can also see what special teams are going to be like because the second

third stringers that are playing in those preseason games are normally going to be the people that are eating up the preseason game so So Bill Pullian-led teams, very top-heavy, a lot of money in the starters, not a lot of money in the backups. So whenever preseason football came, normally it was a complete shit show. What the Baltimore Ravens have been able to do for at least the last 20 games is have an incredible depth in their team. And also, I mean, Huntley was balling. Yeah, oh yeah.

He just shows up in place very well. But the downside of preseason, not wins and losses, because everybody knows as soon as the regular season starts, none of it fucking matters. The Detroit Lions, when they went 0-16, they went 4-0 in preseason. I believe the Browns did the same exact thing when they went 0-16. The preseason outcomes of the games legitimately mean nothing. The only outcomes that mean anything is when you lose a fucking stud.

J.K. Dobbins is a freak. That guy, whenever he filled in for Mark Ingram as the running back, he started getting mad. Give me the ball more. I want the ball more. They get rid of Mark Ingram. It becomes J.K. Dobbins' backfield alongside Lamar Jackson. Now here we are staring down a regular season without this absolute freak that we love, by the way. It becomes J.K. Dobbins backfield alongside Lamar Jackson. Now here we are staring down a

regular season without this absolute freak that we love, by the way. Oh, yeah. He's come on this show, giving us great conversations, great interviews. He follows along. I appreciate the hell out of J.K. Dobbins. And I'm incredibly bummed for him. Torn ACL. And a lot of people will say, you know, if injuries are going to happen, you can get hurt in practice, you can get hurt in the weight room, you can get hurt walking across the street, you can do that, but any time it happens in a preseason game, your immediate thought is, well, why the fuck was that guy on the field? And I don't know if that was Harbaugh's idea, I don't know if J.K. Dobbins wants to be

out there, there's some guys that want to get those reps in. It's just unfortunate all around, and the Ravens definitely took a massive hit with this. Yeah, because of the fact that they are such a run-heavy offense, do you think they'll probably maybe go after Mark Ingram, as you mentioned, and try and bring him back from Houston, especially because Houston's got David Johnson, Phillip Lindsay, and Ingram? Wouldn't that be kind of the smart move? Gus Edwards is a great backup,

but I feel like you need at least two running backs in an offense like that with Lamar. Gussie. Hey, Gussie's a player. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. He's a player. But also, I'm not as certain that Mark Ingram will go back.

Maybe they'll look for him, especially with the depth that Houston has at that. But look for a lot of running backs to potentially be cut that are pretty notable. I mean, this week there's a lot of – and to potentially be cut that are pretty notable i mean this week there's a lot of in jim ursae tweeted this he said hey a lot of tough decisions being made right now man say a lot of tough decisions being made right now i think by tomorrow they're going to get their team down tuesday i think is cut day first cut so you're going to see them be active i assume

they're going to want to fill in but nobody's going to to be J.K. fucking Dobbins. It's going to be tough to get a J.K. Dobbins in there. And to be honest, I'm pretty thankful that that's – I mean, is there anybody else? Any other stars that we've lost? I don't think so, right? There hasn't been big ones. Evan Ingram, tight end for the Giants, he pulled up his calf yesterday, but I don't think anything to the point of, like, season-ending torn ACL like Dobbins. Okay, so obviously T's and P's to the Ravens and Dobbins.

But aside from that, hey, we made it. Yeah, we made it. We did it. Come on. Pat, do you think, like, obviously these coaches are saying they're playing the starters because they want to have them ready for week one. But now that it's, like, they were 16-game season. Now it's a 17-game season.

Like, it's probably more important to not lose one of your best players during the preseason than potentially having them full go 100% ready for week one. Or could we see teams start using week one, week two more as a ramp up? Very solid analysis there, Diggs. The longer season, and I don't think any of us know how it's going to play. I don't think the coaches know how they're going to play it yet. I don't think anybody has a clue. And it's only one game is what I think is such a crazy thing.

But just that one game being added, it's like, okay, the guy that was crawling into the 16th game last season, what does that mean now with another game on top of that? Do you rest some players more? Do you take a bye week maybe for a couple of your players in the middle of the season as well as your bye week? I'll be fascinated. And situations are situational, so I think it'll kind of get balanced out.

But Jeff Saturday alluded to that fact, Diggs. He was basically like, hey, let's use these first two games against NFC teams. Who really gives a fuck for the Colts? And kind of ramp up and see what we got. But there's teams out there right now. Chiefs, they're looking to go undefeated. Bucks, they're looking to go undefeated. I mean, this is the first time in a long time we have teams actually,

I don't want to say talking about it, but almost like the expectations are, hey, this team knows that an undefeated season is there. Like this team knows that this could happen. They know what they are. I think we'll just kind of have to see how it goes. I'm not sure you're going to see anybody resting anybody, though, in these first couple regular season games. I think it's, hey, we've got to hit it and get it and hope that our training camp

was enough for us to get by. Well, do you think there's no right or wrong way to do this, right? Because the Chiefss their starters played that whole first half and i think that makes a little bit more sense because they didn't have any of the linemen you know all those guys are new so they maybe want them to you know get a little chemistry but like i look at the packers i haven't paid any attention because they're not they're not playing any anyone of merit and it's not like if they come out and perform poorly weeks one and two that you'll look back and be like, oh, shit, Rogers in the first-team offense.

They should have been playing during the preseason. What the hell is going on? Yeah, and I think there's a couple different situations where everybody just understands that, hey, they're not playing in the preseason. Aaron Rogers I don't think is a preseason guy. I don't think he has ever come out and said, I need preseason. I think it's the complete opposite. Now, on the flip side to that game, though, Josh Allen.

Yeah. Ooh. Jeez. That 38-yard rope. Oh, my God. He's good. Seed. Filthy.

I mean, absolutely. I watched that game. Absolutely filthy, that ball that he threw. The excitement, the joy, him moving, the way that team acted. The Buffalo Bills are a fucking problem. Yeah, they are. Especially with Bills' mafia. Now, I don't know if Josh Allen plays, if that's not a home game.

Oh, yeah. Now, maybe he will. Maybe this is how Josh Allen goes. But I think Buffalo, especially old Brandon Bean, who came out how Josh Allen goes, but I think like Buffalo, especially old Brandon Bean, who came out and said like, we don't have this under control at all. Okay. We have no fucking idea what's going on. All right. We had a close contact to somebody that was vaxxed five days out. We've had multiple five days things. We have no idea what's going to come in the middle of the season. Who knows in this entire thing. And I respect and appreciate Brandon Bean, general manager of the Buffalo Bills buffalo bills by the way being very forthright and you know up front with everybody

about how we have no fucking idea what's going to happen nobody nobody has a clue what's going to happen you just got to hope it kind of all gets figured out and worked out i think that vaccination level by the way is going to get real high in the nfl i think it's going to get real real high but i think the biggest thing that I heard Bean talk about whenever he was on with us and other people is he was very upset that Bill's mafia didn't get a chance to experience that Buffalo Bills run of last year. And that game against the Packers in that preseason game this past weekend, that place seemed to be filled up. Yeah. Packed. Especially with this Austin talk and the new

stadium talk and everything like that if you know i feel like that maybe i don't know that might have played a hand in it i'm not sure whatever the case getting to see josh allen ball out there i mean the afc east is in some trouble for some time josh allen and the buffalo bills are why Bill Belichick and Kraft spent $150 million on day one of the free agency tampering period. Josh Allen and the Bills are the reason why the Miami Dolphins are allegedly still interested in somebody who potentially has 26 plus charges still against them that could count for four to five life sentences if they all end up positive because they want a quarterback in there. The Buffalo B a problem in at boston connor i know you got a chance to watch cam

and mac and his preseason games that we just went on the entire run about not mattering mac jones looks like a goddamn player though he really does look like a problem for everybody huh looks like a real player i mean he's got the respect of his team that's so clear, which I think is massive and also the fire. Even when he threw his first touchdown pass of the preseason, because normally they were just getting down to the goal line, running it in and he was in Zubin Mahenty's

face, absolutely jacked up, shaking him and everything. He was even doing that for Ramon Dre Stevenson when he had a rushing touchdown. But with the Bills, to your point, Isaiah McKenzie, one of the guys last week who was out because of the protocols, he did get vaccinated basically immediately after. So you've got to assume those numbers are going to continue to skyrocket,

which is not great for the Patriots because I was hoping a couple Bills. You know, when we play each other maybe they're out you know maybe maybe they're not full strength because goddamn Josh Allen looked like an MVP yesterday I like that you went back to the bills when I tried to pivot to Mac Jones that's interesting I'm sure your fans will question whether or not you love Mac Jones Buffalo Connor yeah you never know You never know. There's been a couple of those moments in preseason though, that you watch and you're so thankful that football is back. My home's the Tyree kill down the sideline. Tyree killed.

She put the gas pedal on a guy. My God. Hey, Tom played preseason. Yeah. Patrick Mahomes played preseason. Josh Allen played preseason. It seems like these teams that are gunning for the home field advantage through the playoffs know we have to come out early.

We have to be hot early. Brandon Bean said, hey, it's a lot different whenever teams have to come through Buffalo. Patrick Mahomes knows it's much different when everybody has to go through Kansas City. Tom Brady's been living that life for a long, long time. I think he's had a first round bye in the playoffs like 16 of his 21 years in the NFL or something like that. I believe before last year, the last time he had to play the first week of the playoffs was like 2009. How many years? Is this his 22 years? Yeah, 22nd.

Yeah, he's going into 22. And he's only missed a playoff one time. He's been in playoffs 20 times. Jesus. Disgusting. And he's gone to what 11 conference championships too well i think since 2011 he's been in a conference championship or super bowl every single year every single year or aside from the pay his last season with the patriots every single year conference championship it's hard it's hard not to just

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off your first month of ED treatment. Back to the show. ED treatment. Back to the show. Joining us now is a man who is an absolute superstar. I think that is the case. When he was in the NFL, it felt like the media hated him, so they decided to show him at his absolute worst, which potentially painted a narrative that this dude

wasn't the coolest dude on earth. He's a pro bowler, obviously, on the field, but then we learned a lot about him off the field in reality television, his social media game. Now he has a podcast called Uncut. Ladies and gentlemen, living legend Jay Cutler. What's up, dude? Very kind of you.

I appreciate it. Hey, this is our first time chatting. I think real life and fake. It's an honor. It's an absolute honor jay thank you for joining us thank you thanks for having me on did you feel whenever you were in the league and i always said this about you to my friends whenever i had uh media that all the moments that jay cutler had on the field the media decided to show all the other quarterbacks had as

well they just chose not to show it whenever you'd be pissed off whenever you'd be upset when you'd be disinterested it felt like the media loved it then the smoking j accounts start and everything like that did you know that when you were in the nfl and was there ever a moment you're like why the fuck do you guys choose to show me at my absolute worst all the time yeah i mean there was a point i remember uh we were playing on fox and there was just a camera like literally just following me the entire game on the sidelines everywhere i went to the media guys i was like what the what the hell is going on here and they're like well they have a camera just dedicated to you on the sidelines i was like this is i mean

this is bullshit guys i mean. Why is this a thing? So then you just get to a point where it's just like, I guess I'm just going to sit here and just sit here. And you did. I did. And then everybody said, well, he doesn't care then,

because he's just sitting there. And then the internet, it looks like he would legitimately have a marble red hanging out of his mouth. And then all of a sudden that took off into its own thing. And that all kind of disguised how good of a football player you were, I thought. Personally, just as an outsider looking in. I thought you handled it much better than I would. If I was a teammate of yours, though, I would ask a lot of questions like,

hey, why do you always show this guy at his worst when you don't do that for everybody else? Yeah. And then, you know, then if I got into any arguments or yelled at anybody, it would spin the other way. So it was kind of one of those no-win situations, but it was what it was. I loved playing football. It was fun. Had good teammates.

The outside noise is the outside noise. When you retired, was it hard to watch football? Did you start hating football again? Because I remember you retired on TV. then you came back, I think, and there's a whole behind-the-scenes story behind that we don't have to dive into. But a lot of guys, when they leave the game, they have a little jaded, a little sense of jade, so they don't want to watch the game. Are you back on board watching football full-time,

or are you still a little bit jaded towards it? Yeah, you're 100% right. I was a little jaded to to it and you know i was just trying to figure out like what's next you know because you spend so much time invested in this game since you're a little kid uh but now uh you know my two boys are nine and seven and my nine-year-old is all in i mean he's he knows everybody the stats, plays Madden. He wants to watch every game all day long. So I'm back in it. I wouldn't say I'm 100% back in it, but I'm trending that way.

You were a gunslinger. Is that an accurate depiction? And is that how you wanted to play? No. I mean, I think in college, it was just kind of a necessary evil because we were playing the Alabamas and the LSUs and some of these teams. So you had to take some chances because our talent level wasn't there. And then when I got to Denver, we got scaled back.

And with Shanahan and Jerry Bates and a bunch of those guys, our offense was a lot more balanced. Some boot games, the running game, all the zone scheme was fabulous. And then when I got to Chicago, defense was great, but if we did get up some points talent-wise in the offense, until we got some dudes, B. Marsh and some of those guys, we had to take some chances. So it was just part of it.

You see the way the game's evolving right now offensively. Oh, gosh, yeah. You think it would help you immensely, huh? If the offense now and the rules now, you think you might be able to. And you can't get touched. Yeah. You can literally play quarterback forever. Yeah.

You could potentially. It's the greatest gig out there. Yeah, how old are you now? 38. Is there any thought at all of getting gig out there. Yeah, how old are you now? 38. Is there any thought at all of getting back out there and throwing? No. I mean, I think I could still do it. But, you know, I can't do it.

I can't go back to that. Like start, no. The problem is like I could do it. No problem. Mentally, you could do it. It's just it's just starting all those relationships back up and getting back in a team and you know earning the trust of the of the locker room like all that stuff just takes so much time and effort and energy

um and you know i've got a million other things happening at this point you're so cool now dude yeah hey you are i i don't i don't feel that at all i mean i don't i don't feel that and the whole podcast world that i'm starting is is so foreign that you know i feel like i have no i have no earthly idea what the hell i'm doing and you know and coming from football where you you've been doing it your entire life like you know i felt like i know how to do this and now i'm in the in entering in this media world which i never thought i'd be in it's it's just uh it's different so whenever you get baptized in the media world which is reality tv i think oh yeah hey that had to feel good to be a baby face for a little bit though i mean you were healed for a long time everybody hates jay cutler yeah he hates j Cutler. Then you get on reality TV, and I know Diggs over there,

who's now a COVID cowboy, he was dressing like Jay Cutler for like two, three weeks because of how much he loved you on reality. That was a real – I felt like a real momentum swing there, though. It was like, hey, this is actually – It was. Yeah, that had to be pretty nice. You know, reality TV, I heard, is a nightmare. I've heard it's a nightmare.

I thought it's the easiest thing ever it was so it was one of the i mean it's annoying it sucks it's annoying and it sucks but actually doing the job is easy as hell like we would do i mean one cut two cut and be done i'd be you know 20 minutes a day and I'm done with my job. I'd be like, see you guys. Good luck. The podcast, will this lead to more stuff or does this feel like this is your full focus

now? I see the Outsider Studio. I know that's the entire thing, right? That's becoming an entire network. Yeah, we're putting that all together. There's a couple other things in the office building we got. So I think the podcast is just – I think it's just an avenue into other stuff. I mean, I've enjoyed it so far.

I did the first one with Waddle and Sylvie, and I wasn't sure. I mean, kind of going into it, I was a little apprehensive. I was like, I'm probably going to hate this. And about halfway through, I was like, damn, this isn't bad. I can do this. And then I did another one with Nate, a comedian here in town. And it's different whenever you don't know somebody that well. And he came in and sat down.

I was like, damn, this might be. And he was really quiet, didn't have a lot of emotion. He kind of sat down. He's like, what do you want to talk about? I was like, we'll just shoot the shit until it happens. In the back of my head, I'm like, this is going to fail. We're screwed. Do you always have the mindset you're going to hate something?

That was interesting to me. No, no, no. It's just like foreign things. I think growing up, I just stuck to things I was good at, which was sports. So, like, doing something that you're not sure if you're going to be good at is a little daunting. It's something that, you know, at 38 years old, you don't really take into consideration because you've been doing something else for so long. But, you know, Nate sat down and we were, I mean, we started shooting this shit. And it was like 20 minutes before I even got to my first question.

So I was like, all right, like this is this. We can do this. This is going to go. Yeah, you have good perspective, dude. You're in the NFL 12 years. You're a reality TV superstar. You're beloved by everybody. You're a fucking farmhand.

I mean, let's go. You've got a lot of conversations you can have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can hit a lot of different topics, which is good. How are you feeling, by the way? Thank you can have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can hit a lot of different topics, which is good. How are you feeling, by the way? Thank you for asking. I'm on the outside. I'm out of the deep shit. I had like three days. Three days of

aches and chills and fever. 104 and a half fever there. I was about to ask you, by the way, actually, because you have decided just to jump on in. So I'm too dumb to get into the politics world or get into any of those worlds. You're a future school board member, obviously,

so you have to dabble in that. 2024. Hell yeah. Hey, get the seeds laid for that campaign trail now. Oh, yeah. Have you enjoyed that whole world? Because you have gone into it a little bit, into the politics world.

Have you enjoyed the bickering? Do you enjoy that? work? Because you have gone into it a little bit, into the politics world. Have you enjoyed the bickering? Do you enjoy that? Is that something you like? Or is it like you feel like you're doing something bigger than yourself again? What is it like? That's a good question. It's kind of twofold. I don't like the bickering.

And my stance has kind of gotten skewed a little bit. I'm on the whole, they're putting me on the whole anti-vax, anti-mask thing, which I've chosen that for myself of not getting the vaccine and not really wearing masks unless it's airports or like where it's absolutely deemed necessary. But I have no problem with people getting the vaccine. I have no problem with people wearing masks. If that makes you feel safe and that makes you feel better, go ahead. I'm all for you. If you want to get into the science of it and the numbers and all that stuff, that's a whole different conversation. And I will go down that road. But I also want people to know that, you know, I'm pretty much in the middle in a lot of this stuff. So I'm not this far, far right or far left leaning person. I think that's where there's no gray area anymore in the middle in a lot of this stuff so i i'm not this far far right or far left leaning person i

think that's where there's there's no gray area anymore in the world like it's either these are black or white areas and that's it and i'm not saying racially but just in the context of people arguing um and we we've forgotten this gray area where a lot of people live yeah there's a lot of understanding in that gray area that it seems to be talked out the window. And the thing about COVID is, and I don't dabble into that world because I'm not smart enough and nobody's thinking to themselves,

you know what, Pat McAfee's the guy I need to go to to get fucking advice. You know what I mean? Nobody's doing that. Yeah, to be honest, I'm probably not the guy to go to to get fucking advice at all. But I do have a stance and I'm going to hold up to that stance. And if you have a different stance, hey, congratulations, man.

The thing about it, though, with COVID is it's not a political party thing. I have friends who are on both ends of the spectrum, and they either both sides love what's going on or both sides hate it so i think that is why and after going through this like it's obviously miserable but i'm never sick so i don't know what this is in comparison anything else all i know is i was absolutely miserable i wish it upon nobody even though i think everybody's gonna end up getting it is the information i was basically told uh so i appreciate you doing that, but you waking up, your comments some days have to be just a fucking nightmare, though,

I assume, your mentions. You actually read those? You read through your mentions? I know, I'm very thankful you follow me on Twitter. That was a cool day. I felt real cool. Yeah, I mean, I go in spurts. Like, you know, I'll go through them,

go through them, go through them. I'll take a couple days off and then, you know, realize, all right, like, we're doing a podcast now. Like, you've them, go through them. That'll take a couple of days off. And then, you know, realize, all right, like we're doing a podcast now. Like you've got it. You've got to, you've got to enter that world. And so I'm getting better about it. It's just, it's not something that I think comes natural to me.

Yeah. Cause you'd show up on Instagram out of nowhere and all of a sudden we'd learn you have fucking 45 chickens. Yeah. Or some cows or whatever. So it's, found that Instagram is more like a quality game and Twitter is just quantity. Like the more shit you put out there, like the better. Yeah.

These algorithms, dude. Yeah. I don't know how they work, but I think in Twitter you do have to be active. Like I think you have to be active. I think in Twitter you do have to be active. I think you have to be active. Instagram is messing with me, and they've got me at 666K, and they will not let me off of it.

Oh, because you're the devil. Yes. This is the Fox Media fucker that put that camera on you. He moved over to Instagram working with Zuckerberg. Let's lock him at 666, this devil Jay Cutler. No matter what I do, good or bad, I could do the worst thing in the world and I'll lose like

3,000 and I'll go right back to 666 or 667. I could do something awesome and I could get like 10,000, 20,000 and then back down to like 666, 67. I'm like, come on guys. You could take away 100,000. Just get me off that number.

I don't care. I'm thankful that you're not buying your way out of Satanism. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm not. I'm not a Satan worshiper. I'm not the devil, but I am. They do have me locked in at 666, which I'm not a fan of. Put it on the ticker.

Jay Cutler. Right now. Yeah, 10,000 people unfollow me. Let's see what happens. I would love to see what happens. Let's go back to football a little bit before the boys have a question for you.

Did you have coaches you enjoyed? Hated? Who do you think was the most like important person to your nfl career uh mike shanahan jeremy bates when i was in denver um they just kind of shaped everything for me uh and just from how organizations run to the pieces of an offense what you need um how to manage football games, the right way to do things on the field, off the field, on the bus, what a locker room should look like, what a leader should look like, all the things.

And I was young at that point, so it was instrumental to me. You look back on anything in your NFL career and go, you know, I shouldn't have done that, I fucked that up anyway? I mean, all kinds of stuff. I don't know if we have time. Yeah. I mean, I mean how Denver went down, I mean, getting traded to Chicago, you know, there, I mean, stuff with coaches, you know, I mean, there's all kinds of stuff that I think you can look

back and go, you know what, I shaped that a little bit, but would I actually do it? No, I wouldn't change anything of how it went. It worked out how it's supposed to work out. And, you know, I'm here now and I'm in a good place. That Shanahan offense is now everywhere in the NFL. It's like the offense. Do you look at it around and say, oh, I know exactly what they're doing? When you were going to get into TV there for a second

and do, what did you do, for a week? Two weeks you did it on CBS? How long was it? No, I was with Fox, and I was signed for, we did a couple, we did a taping in Fox for my interview, and then I signed, and then I was was I think I was an employee for like two weeks. They paid me

one paycheck. But I think I gave it back. Did you really? I want to say I did. If I didn't, I hope I did. No, fuck them. They made enough money off of you, dude. No, no, no. You take that. They don't even know it's gone. Somebody just

AJ Cutler, yeah, he gave that back right into their pocket. Exactly. I don't think you ever get talked about as somebody who football IQ is never talked about. But whenever you... No. I wish we would have got a chance to watch you call some

games. What would have been your angle? I just talked to, I just did Adam Shepters and uh he was asking the same question about you know how it all went down i told him he's like do you ever want to do that i'm like absolutely i just don't want to i just can't do 16 17 games i can't get back into that schedule of friday come back monday for and it's all 17 away games you know you don't get a home game and with the kids and everything in my schedule and all the stuff and he was like would you do you know four five six eight games i was like, would you do, you know, four, five, six, eight games?

I was like, absolutely. I'd do that. I would love to do six games. And he was like, I'll make that happen. So it's on, it's on, it's on Chessie now. Like he claims that he has all the pull and he's like, I can, I can do this for you. So we'll see what happens.

Jeff, do you have your ass doing that Manning Monday night football game? It'll be the on field reporter I'm not doing any on field stuff I'm in the box I'm not that guy I'm excited to hear your brain spill over a game 12 years in the NFL Pro Bowl

or multiple different offenses I assume you have forgotten more information than a lot of us fuckers have learned I hope Schefter makes that happen. I mean, it feels like he's going to be able to. I mean, I'm excited if he can make it happen. Because, I mean, you get to see it from way up top. You see things happening.

Safety's rolling, corners. I mean, the whole thing. So I think it's – and with all of today's offenses, with the checks and, you know, a lot of the stuff, I'm not going to say it's not that hard, but I'm pretty positive I could pull it off. I think you could, man. I almost did a couple times. I'm just a third-string quarterback with a perfect passer rating on Thanksgiving.

When you look at Tom and Aaron and even Peyton played into it. When you look at these guys, Drew Brees just retired. When you look at these older guys that are sticking around, and I think Drew Brees said it in one interview, and we're not necessarily a pro Drew Brees show. I mean, this just so happens to be a Drew Brees quote. He said, as I got older, his brain got so much better. His football IQ got so much better.

He's just hoping his body could hang on. You alluded to it earlier there that guys can play forever with the way the new rules are. When you look at guys like Aaron and Tom, what is so impressive to you as a former quarterback who's been in there at the same time they were and they're still going? What's so impressive about these old guys that are still able to fucking get out there and do it? Well, I think it's one of those things that you look at it and the game becomes effortless to them. It's not them anymore. It's the rest of the guys.

If those ten other guys, or not even ten, if six of the guys on offense do the right thing, they're 99% of the time going to make the right decision. It just becomes effortless to them. They've done it so many times. And, you know, Aaron is a little bit different because he makes so many more plays outside the pocket that are fun to watch. But I think he's also mastered that. He knows, you know, when he can push it back into coverage,

when he can throw across his body, when he can do some of those things. So I think it almost becomes really elegant to watch these guys do this and pull this stuff off those young guys who get antsy to get out of the pocket that is like that's a big problem right for the young guys you got to be able to sit in there how hard is that just to want to sit in the middle of the fucking chaos because i remember baker now granted he had freddie kitchenitchens who i don't know if you know him or not he called a draw on fourth and 13 for him and that that whole place was just a nightmare but anytime there was any any type of pressure he was out yeah rolling to the right and the deep nfl defenses know that like hey if we get any push on him they'll even send

somebody they just would buzz somebody around the pocket almost to get him out that's how NFL defenses are how hard is that for some of these young guys there's a lot of young NFL quarterbacks right now who have the chance to be great but then there's also the chance they're going to be fucking forgotten about in a year or two that's the NFL what is the hardest part you think for these young guys to make it well I think as owners and NFL coaches like if you do have a young quarterback, you've got to do everything under the sun to protect them up front. You've got to have linemen.

You've got to have a running game. Because if these guys start getting hit early in their career, it's just inevitable what's going to happen. They're not going to want to sit in there. There's no one on the planet that really wants to sit in a pocket and get smoked five, ten times a game. It's just your self-preservation of you as a human is going to take over. And you're like, hey, this isn't safe.

I've got to go. So it's an unfortunate thing is a lot of these top quarterbacks go to shitty teams. It's just that's just how it's the draft and how everything's organized. So I think it's on the owners. It's on the head coaches to say, hey, if we can't protect this guy, we need to be really careful in our play calling and how we go about this to give them a chance on the back end, year three, year four, year five,

to really become the quarterback we want them to become. We're talking to Jay Cutler, 12-year NFL vet, pro bowler, host of Uncut with Jay Cutler. One episode out, another coming around the corner with a riveting conversation with a comedian that actually showed that Jay Cutler, he should be a host because he had a 20-minute conversation before he got to his first question. I can't wait to listen to that.

A couple of the boys have questions for you. Is that all right? Absolutely. Go ahead, Ty. Jay, as a Packers fan, I got to see the way the media kind of portrayed and shaped the narrative around you. I'm just curious, when you retired, did you have anybody reach out to you and say like, hey, I'm sorry that I made people think you were a sack of shit while you were playing and vice versa. Was there anyone that like you sent a message to and be like, hey, now I'm done now, but I just wanted to let you know you are a massive piece of shit for what you were doing while I was in the league. No, they're all dead to me now. No, no one reached out.

You know, I think I've become more friendly with some of them throughout the years. You know, I signed with Fox, even though they roasted me for like four years. I mean, I guess at the end of the day, money talks. Yep. Hey, listen, I hated them, but that check was fucking big. That check was a big one. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, still ended up giving it back pretty cool.

Jay, you mentioned. Don't fuck take that check even more. I mean, what are we doing, Jay? I know, I know. I might have kept it. Who knows? It's good for you. Don't even know.

Hey, congrats. You don't even know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Good for you, Jay. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Jay, you mentioned winning over the locker room as a rookie in Denver. How difficult was that?

And then also, was it much different when you went to Chicago and Miami where you already kind of had the resume? Yeah, when I got to Denver, it was John Lynch. It was Al Wilson. It was Champ Bailey, Jake Plummer, Rod Smith. So, I mean, we had some dudes on that team some old guys too that could just straight out play football uh and but i i tell you what i felt really welcome to that locker room i thought mike and and you know those guys were all quality guys

and lynch was first class i mean as all of them were so they welcomed us they messed with us but they messed with us the right way. And they just kind of showed us the way. They figured that out. And then once I got to Chicago, Lack and Lance Briggs, and, I mean, there were some guys on that defense that were straight up doing it. And all they cared about is if, you know, I could go out there and play. If I could help them win games, that's all you cared about. And I think as you get older, that's what you look for. Like, hey, do the right thing for the most part, but we need you to help them win games. That's all you cared about. And I think as you get older, that's what you look for.

Like, hey, do the right thing for the most part, but we need you to help us win games. And going to Miami was easy because I was a little bit of a younger team and I knew most of the coaching staff. So that was kind of an easy transition for me. So hot. It was insanely hot. It was like Christmas and I was like, when does this get turned off?

Like, it's December 23rd. It's like 95. When does this get turned off? Yeah. Turn it down? Just a little bit? Jeez. Diggs, go ahead.

Jay, as Pat mentioned, I'm a huge fan. He was talking about earlier aboutaron a little bit and about the shanahan offense that aaron's in now you played in the division with him together you guys came in the league around the same time you guys kind of have similar like laid back personalities do you have a relationship with aaron and is there anyone maybe besides him that you thought like oh that guy can make all the same throws that I can make. Stafford. Matt Stafford can spin it. Aaron can spin it.

You know, Flacco back in the day, he could kind of touch the whole field. I'm sure I know I'm missing some people. You know, you look at Patrick Mahomes now, and he's kind of an Aaron spinoff. But, I mean, being able to throw the ball like the way that they can throw the ball just creates so many problems for a defense. And especially, all three of those guys can move.

Aaron and Patrick a little bit more than Stafford. But, I mean, Stafford can get out and he can cause some problems. So, you know, whenever you can roll to the right and still put it 65 down the field or put put it, you know, 65 down the field or put it 55 on the backside, it's an issue for defenses. But I just reached out to Aaron.

I'm trying to get him on the podcast. He's slow playing me, though. He's got like a case of scotch or something. Yeah, he does like scotch. He's doing a full media blitz right now. Is he? Yeah. Shine?

Maybe I'll hear from him soon, man. Have you always just been incredibly gifted throwing the ball? Ever since you were a kid, you could just throw the shit out of it? Yeah, I went to my first tackle football practice, and I wanted to be a running back. So I was like, all right, got your number, and I'm going to be a running back. And so I was like, all right, you know, you got your number, and I'm going to be a running back, and I'm just throwing the ball back and forth with the quarterback.

And we're just throwing it, we're throwing it. We're kind of getting farther and farther away, and he's not really getting it back to me, and I'm throwing it. The coach comes over and goes, hey, go get a quarterback number. You're our quarterback. I'm like, nah, I'm a quarterback number. You're our quarterback. I'm like, nah. I'm a running back. And he goes over and talks to my dad.

My dad's like, hey, go change your number. You're our quarterback. Dang it. Were you a pitcher? Were you also in baseball? I pitched a little bit. I played shortstop. And then once I got to my freshman year, I stopped pitching.

I was like, I'm going to mess. I mean, I loved football. And I was like, I'm going to mess up my arm doing this stuff. So I just played shortstop. You did have that asshole running back mentality where you were trying to run people over. I mean, it made no sense. What did some of the-

Zero sense. Zero sense. And I did it one time in,. Zero sense. Zero sense. And I did it one time. I still feel bad about this. We were in Pittsburgh. And it was a third down. It was like a third and eight or third and six or something like that. And I took off to the left.

And I'm running. And I kind of slowed up like I was going to slide. And then I kind of peeked out. I was like, I don't know if I'm at the chain. And the DB is gay. then i kind of peeked i was like i i don't know if i'm at the chain and uh the db is gay and he he kind of stopped and then i mean i was like oh damn it i just gotta go and just i mean just barreled the dude over and i was like i'm so sorry he's not allowed to touch you he's not allowed to touch you either oh i know so i was like i'm so sorry he's like i thought you're gonna slide I was like, I'm so sorry. He's like, I thought you were going to slide. I was like, I thought I was going to slide too, but I didn't.

If it means anything, three steps ago, I was on the same page as you. Yeah, I was right there with you, man. Zito, you heard it back there, the Bear Don yell. Big Bears fan, massive Jay Cutler fan. fan zito what do you got pal yeah bear down but do we think matt nagy and pace is the answer for chicago oh god that's a tough question um loaded question there by the way that's a loaded question you know i i think it all comes down to justin fields if they can make it work with with him at some point in the season, then they bought probably two to three more years. If this implodes and doesn't go the way it's supposed to

go, hell, I don't know what's going to happen. Because I mean, you look back at the draft picks, the first round draft picks, and it hasn't been stellar. I like coach Nagy. I like his offense I mean, I've heard nothing but good things from the guys in the locker room. So I'm a fan of his You know, but you can only play what you have on the field so I mean we'll see what happens You obviously do not like him either one Love them, but once it was you know only loves him because he's told to love him. As soon as they're out there, he will fucking just grab them.

Yes, destroy them. With kindness. No, no, Zito. He will bury them as soon as they're out of there. Does he like Fields? Love Fields. Of course you do. What do you mean?

I was about to say, Jay, does preseason game, what can we get from this? I think Fields looked like he could be a quarterback, but preseason is so much different because the offense, the defense isn't planning. The defense isn't scheming, strategizing. It's so much different, right? We can't really

read much into preseason football, right? And I think now defenses mess with you even more by going more vanilla. They're going to show you nothing. And I think offenses are doing the same thing. I mean, I think the only thing you can see is, all right, how is he in and out the huddle? How is he at the line?

Does he feel like he's in control? You know, is he staying in the pocket? You know, obviously he can run. That's a no-brainer. We've got that figured out. He can throw outside the pocket. But just how is he managing the game? How is he on the sideline?

Like those things. But when real bullets start happening in week one, I mean, it's a different animal. I like to see how the teammates interact. Yeah, absolutely. That's my big thing. I understand handling the huddle with confidence and everything like that. Huge.

I think that's what you get to read. But I want to see the teammates. I think the teammates will tell you whether or not they're a fucking guy or not, right? Yeah. If they're talking to him, if they're interacting with him. A teammate that doesn't want to play with another teammate doesn't say anything to that guy. He avoids him like the plague. Well, I got the plague.

And hopefully, Jay, you won't. You know, because if you do, all your far right wing shenanigans are going to get thrown in your face. But I thought you could get COVID with or without the vaccine now. Isn't that a thing? Well, so I was vaxxed actually and don't roll your eyes, Jay. Host of Uncut with Jay Cutler.

Thank you so much for your time. Let's get out of here. Yes. Thanks, guys. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen from yahoo sports yes yahoo sports still a thing this man is the one breathing life into them uh with incredible inside information on deshaun watson situation which we have a lot of questions for ladies and gentlemen, Charles Robinson. It's okay. Gump's not clapping. Gump took a little shot at me.

When? No way. Yeah. Yeah, Gump took a little shot at me on Twitter. I was hoping he'd be on. Well, his shot at you might have been his karma to get COVID. He's got it. He's got COVID.

I'm on the other end. I like hearing that. That's unfortunate. I'm sorry to hear that'm sorry to hear that but i was beyond today so we could talk what'd he say to you i just told me to stop it something about i don't know he quoted quoted one of the one of the tweets or whatever and then he told me to stop it so apparently uh he doesn't believe the truth or whatever. Okay, so shout out to your dog, by the way, in the back there. Yeah, he's chilling. Thank you so much for joining us on short notice here in Houston. Rocking the University of Houston hat. Shout out to Dana Holgerson.

Hope the boys do well. NIL is going to be good for them, by the way. I heard there's a lot of money around that program. Now, let's move to the breaking news from Yahoo Sports. And as you get a phone call, probably more information. Deshaun Watson, how is anybody trading right now with all of the speculation and allegations outside? Everything's coming with if any of this is real, we get all of our picks back? Or are they all doing their own research as well?

They're thinking that he's going to be able to play at some point? 26 allegations, this serious. I don't know how football is even a thought of at this point, Charles. Yeah, they're all doing their own investigation. Okay, so that's a complete, you can, every single team that has been involved or made that call has their own security on it. They've talked to the league office about it. So there's not, they're not leaving any stone, you know, unturned on it they've talked to the league office about it so there's not they're not leaving any

stone you know unturned on it but beyond that every team that has engaged with the texans including the dolphins has said we would need pick protections we want basically if he gets indicted by a grand jury it's going to affect the pick compensation if he gets suspended in 2021 it affects the pick compensation and a couple of teams have even said look um even if he gets suspended in 2021 it affects the pick compensation and a couple of teams have even said look um even if he plays all of 2021 and then the league investigation wraps up in the offseason um and the draft is passed and we've already used your picks um if if he gets suspended in 2022 you're gonna have to send some picks back to us so they even want further pick protection for suspension beyond 2021.

But the Texans aren't having that. They're like, no, we don't want to do pick protections. We don't want to reduce our asking price. Went through the entire process of reporting. Spoke to, as I tweeted, the Miami Dolphins, the Denver Broncos, the Philadelphia Eagles, the Carolina Panthers, the Houston Texans. Spoke to someone inside Watson's camp. the Denver Broncos, the Philadelphia Eagles, the Carolina Panthers, the Houston Texans spoke to someone inside Watson's camp. And one by one, every team except for Miami peeled out of it.

And Miami is still there. And there's a reason why Brian Flores won't say we are not trading for another starting quarterback. And it's because Brian Flores and the Miami Dolphins are still interested in Sean Watson. I don't care what Miami fans want to say and they can't believe it or whatever. It's reality. I'm sorry. This is where we're at. We're talking to Yahoo Sports' senior NFL reporter, Charles Robinson, in Houston. Has always had great intel with everything going on around Houston.

I assume this is no different. Whenever, if you're a Miami Dolphins fan and you see this, Charles, just put your pundit hat on real quick. Does that mean they hate Tua? Or do we forget how good of a football player Deshaun Watson is because of all of these terrible allegations that are surrounding him, you think? Right.

That's the problem. Everybody's trying to make this into an exclusive thing. you exclusively like this guy because it means you exclusively don't like the other guy that's not true they like tua i don't think there's any question that they feel like two is on a track to improving this you know when you draft a guy like this the plan is to go through each season you build you get better they felt like he did that this offseason but i also think that okay let me let me throw this at you. You know what? Guess what?

When last year started, Los Angeles Rams fans did not believe Jared Goff was going anywhere. Guess what? San Francisco 49ers fans didn't think Jimmy Garoppolo was going anywhere. Philadelphia Eagles fans didn't think Carson Wentz was going anywhere. What the fuck? What happened? Guess what? Sometimes you like a quarterback and you start the season and sometimes things change. Now, guess what? I went through all those places and you know what the common thread was in

all those places? We weren't sure we could win a Super Bowl with that guy. And so we had to move on. Hey, guess what? Went through Carolina. Said, why did you get rid of Teddy Bridgewater so quickly? Because the owner, David Tepper, said, I don't think I can win a Super Bowl with that guy. So we got to keep looking for the right quarterback. Do you think Miami's any different? Do you think Stephen Ross is any different? Who has been the best quarterback they have had since Dan Marino? If they trade for Deshaun Watson, it's Deshaun Watson.

So knock the shit off. Okay, so I appreciate you, you know, battling right now. It sounds like you're in the trenches, you know, in that insider game, by the way, those waters get a little bit dicey and I do appreciate you coming out and having this information for us to chit chat about the last question about Deshaun Watson that I have. And obviously the allegations are serious but we haven't seen him play much football in practice is he training off the field by himself like how is he still in shape is he in good because every video we see of him in the media it's not good

he doesn't he looks disinterested looks like he hates everything which by the way if you had 26 allegations that are that serious I assume it's not easy to be a happy person in your life, whether it's real or not. If he goes to Miami, is there going to be a time where he has to get back in shape, you think? Or how has this been going? He's, you know, he's been doing training, but he's not out there doing, obviously, the football work. So it's clearly a problem. You've gone an entire preseason where he's not throwing constantly. Now, you know, is he throwing by himself? Yes, he is. But it's different than

throwing during team activities. He's been in and out of practice. You know, there's been times where, you know, he said that he's had a lower extremity injury. The team doesn't believe it. You know, they've told him, look, you got to be out here. You can't be off the field. So he'll come back out. He'll work to the side with a trainer. I wouldn't say he's in, you know, football shape, football shape, but also at the position of quarterback. Do I think that he is the kind of athlete, you know, and works himself physically off the field that he's ready to go?

Yeah, but there's still an element of a potential soft tissue injury here. He's someone who's had knee injuries in the past. It's a concern. That's something that I ask teams like, hey, do you think you'd be ready to go right away? And they're like, well, first, you'd have to get him in, pass the physical, see where he's at physically. And no, maybe you got to ride a week with another quarterback while he gets in the group. And oh, by the way, he hasn't been part of your passing program.

He hasn't been a part of your offense. How much is the terminology different? What does he have to catch up with? So the question is, like, say Miami trades for him if they did that and Tua stayed, right, remained there. Do you lean on Tua, you know, for a couple of weeks and then you make the switch? It's hard for me to believe that that's, you know,

what you would do if you were a team like Miami. But, you you know it's a concern that he has not been part of a camp or your offensive playbook or you know everything else over the last month uh last question from me before the boys have a couple for you and I can't thank you enough for joining us Charles Robinson senior NFL reporter for Yahoo Sports lives lives in Houston area. Have you guys heard more about everything happening off the field with Deshaun Watson than we have from, like, Indianapolis? Because it's been eerily quiet. The only thing we've heard is the potential NDA conversation a couple weeks ago where Deshaun's team didn't want them to have –

Deshaun's team wanted them to be able to speak. The people that were alleging these terrible things about him allegedly the other side didn't want them to be able to speak is there anything happening or is that at a standstill over there so right now um depositions for I think it's the first civil case are set to begin I think in a couple of weeks so if you're just talking about the civil cases, Deshaun's deposition isn't on the docket until like February. So it would be after the season. And that's all for that first civil case.

Remember, we're talking about 22 civil cases. And at this point, they're not together. You know, they're separate. In terms of the NDA that you spoke of, yes, that is correct. Deshaun's attorney, Rusty Harden, has said repeatedly, if we were to settle, and he's like, and the other side wants to settle, Tony Busby and his 22 plaintiffs, they absolutely want to settle here. We want it to be public. We want, there's no NDA as far as what the money was. Everyone gets to know what the money is,

and we get to talk about why we settled, why the financial amounts are what they are. He claims that, um, Tony Busby and the, and the 22 women that are involved in the civil suits don't want that. Um, you know, is there, is it somewhere in the middle, you know, and why would you want, um, as a, as a, you know, a plaintiff's attorney like Tony Busby, usually you want the financial amounts out there. There's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes between those two in terms of whether a settlement will happen. But I think for NFL teams, there's also that other layer of, is he going to be indicted by a grand jury? The grand jury subpoenas have gone out.

They're going to gather evidence and decide whether now we want to move forward with some testimony. There's only a 90-day period for grand juries in Houston. So, you know, where are you in this current grand jury's time period? If you're on day 87, will you kind of wait? You want to wait until the next one gets impaneled before you start that whole process. Where's the FBI at? Both the lawyers are saying they don't have any idea where the FBI's investigation is at on this. Houston Police Department's involved. That's another investigation. And then the league has

basically said, and both lawyers have confirmed this, that the league has said, we'll wrap when the criminal investigations are done. We're not stepping on anybody else. Wrap up the criminal side of it. Then we'll do the remainder of our interviews that would include Deshaun Watson. So, I mean, there's so many, you said at the beginning, how does a team, you know, any team trade for a guy who is under four separate investigations? Only one of which is is the NFL's, you know, and then the whole entire multitude of civil lawsuits. The answer I have for that is I don't know. i it's i've said repeatedly to anyone who would ask it's it would be the single you would have to have massive balls as a general manager and an owner and a head coach and anyone else in that franchise to bring on deshaun watson in the midst of this in particular if you're giving up um close to full value i mean it's

there's no other way to state it i I mean, it's, and I get that you hear a lot of that from Dolphins fans, like the why, the why. I actually understand that. I completely understand that, but I don't run a team. I don't have to win a Super Bowl. You know, it's not my decision. So, and I've seen NFL teams, honestly, frankly, make worse decisions in my 20 years covering the league. Yeah. I mean, you just hope that in the NFL of 2021 that a decision like this would not take, winning would not take precedent over handling this series of an allegation, but it is the NFL.

Your dog is awesome. Yeah. What's the name? Oh, it's Coach. Coach, what's good, pal? Coach. Coach. It's so cute. I appreciate that. We got two more questions for you. Is that okay? Yeah, that's Coach. Coach, what's good, pal? Coach. It's so cute.

I appreciate that. We got two more questions for you. Is that okay? Yeah, that's fine. Go ahead, Ty. Charles, Gardner Minshew getting traded to the Eagles. We've heard all offseason and through training camp and the preseason here that they love Jalen Hurts.

They think he is the guy. Why did they trade for Gardner Minshew? Like, I mean, is he to be a third string quarterback? That's where he's at in the depth chart right now. Like, what are you hearing about this? What spurred this? Well, he won't stay third string. And, you know, I think there are a couple of different elements here. He fits more what in terms of the things they would teach and how the offense would function, he fits more what Jalen Hurts does. So there's some continuity there. He's a younger piece that can remain there beyond this season.

So, you know, with Howie Roseman, when you talk to Howie Roseman, the general manager there about quarterbacks, he always likes to have depth at quarterbacks. He likes to have a number of quarterbacks. And if they're young guys that he thinks can actually develop a little bit, he'll tell you, well, we could always flip this guy later for a different piece. And frankly, like, you know, as much as they want Jalen Hurts to develop, they want it to be a competitive situation. And the fact is, until Minshew walks in there,

is it really a long-term competitive situation for Jalen Hurts? No. I mean, look at the depth chart. Really? I mean, you think Joe Flacco is going to be a long-term competitive push for Jalen Hurts? No, he's not going to be. Gardner Minshew will be. Gardner Minshew is, he reminds me a little of Ryan Fitzpatrick when you talk to him. In terms of he wants to be the starting quarterback. He wants that job. I think he's also, though, capable of supporting whoever the starter is, which is important for a backup. But they just wanted talent at the position. They wanted young talent at the position that maintained some offensive

continuity in terms of what they could do with him, the kind of plays they could run. And he gives them that. And he was cheap. I think your dog found another dog. Quiet. What's the other dog? Oh, that's Toasty.

Toasty and Coach? Yeah, his name's Toasty because my girl, we were thinking of dog names one night, and she was drunk on the couch, and I told her she was really Toasty, and that would be a good dog name. That's how I got her. Hey, two tickets to toasty land pop that's what it's all about go ahead connor yeah charles uh can we expect justin reed to be coming in for the 60 plus yarder field goals this year or is he a strictly about that a kickoff specialist that

was awesome man that was that was probably one of those preseason moments where you're like, holy cow, I did not expect that. That was dope. It was awesome. I love watching the, you know, when you're a returner and you're, where were his heels? The five? The ten?

Yeah. You know, you think he's going to short this. He killed it. Yeah. Pat, you must have been going crazy. Well, I was in the middle of the COVID cave, so I couldn't go too bananas. But I did enjoy that he took a real hack at that.

Good hang time as well. And then former teammates of mine obviously took that as an opportunity to take shots and slights at kickers, not being athletic. And why not? I'll tell you what, if you can find a safety who can fly around and bomb a four-second kickoff like that, you'd be remiss not to put him at kicker. Is Jack Easterby thinking about maybe putting him at kicker over there?

Or what has Jack Easterby been up to this trade game? I don't think anyone around here is allowed to talk to Jack Easterby anymore. Why not? Let's get more quotes out of that guy. Yeah, I don't think we're allowed to. I'll tell you what, I think I see him anonymously quoted. I'll put it to you that way. I just hate the anonymous quotes that I'm like, I think I know who said that.

But, yeah, I don't know. Jack's—as far as they're concerned, Jack doesn't have anything to do with anything in the organization anymore, which I just—that's not true. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, from his car in the middle of a dog walk i believe two of them toasty and coach we can't thank you enough senior nfo insider and reporter for yahoo sports charles robinson so sorry to interrupt but i want to let you know that if you're not gambling with fandle you're wrong okay fandle sportsbook is available in seven states, I believe, at this point.

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the cable has not worked in my house the last five days. Come on! Yeah, classic. When you need it, it's not available. When I don't need it, that sumbitch will run clear as day. Jay moved out. Think he snipped the wires on his way out of the door while eating his sandwich, whatever the case is. So I had been using Apple TV, and there's an NBC thing on there where I could only watch the NBC channels.

So it was actually pretty perfect. And the only thing I could watch was the golf tournament basically for most of the day. So it almost ended up perfectly. Now, through the first nine and then 10, 11, it was rather boring, obviously. 14th hole, when DeChambeau and the commentators continued to harp on this, but it was real. With DeChambeau and Patrick both scoring mightily, I mean, they were playing great golf, as was everybody.

The course was set up. And I heard a couple of the commentators say, the members aren't going to be happy with the score. It's like, well, the members need to fuck off because I enjoy watching people dominate golf courses. I might be in the wrong here. I'd much rather see an eagle putt than a triple bogey putt. OK, that's just how I am. I can go on any course and give them triple bogeys, double bogeys if you have to. But it's always like the members want it to be a hard course.

The members want it to be hard. Whatever the case, they were balling. Whenever he says, Patrick, can you stop walking? I was so happy. Patrick, can you? Something negative has been something that has been said to me my entire life. So I understood that. Patrick Cantley probably understood where he was coming from,

but them making it a rather big deal and saying, hey, listen, he just basically called out Patrick Cantlie and then Cantlie answers and DeChambeau and the drama of that back nine was beautiful between those two. But it wasn't even close to what happens when they get the sudden death extra holes. They said, we're going to go 18. We'll go 18 again.

Then we'll go to 17 if we have to. Then we'll go back to 18 whenever they were getting to it as they're riding on their golf carts up the fairway for the 18th hole. And we could have never guessed what we would have seen. Two of the greatest golfings I've ever seen. Answering, both of them. OB on one shot, then answering back with an incredible shot. Patrick Cantlie's putter was maybe the coolest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

His nerves frozen today. I have no idea how his body generated and created these types of things. Great for golf. Great for me as a viewer and i'm not sure if you're a pga fan or a fedex playoffs person anything better could have happened last night that was unbelievable to watch and i am such a big fan of both of these men now after it yeah how can we get playoff golf in like every single match that goes on because when it really is just hole for hole whoever wins the hole wins it is electricity and that last putt on the sixth playoff hole from cantlay after d

shit or before d chambeau misses his little birdie putt that was even closer than cantlay's i mean it was absolute electricity the people were going nuts too it's good to have crowds back there as well or to send it to sudden death, Patrick Cantley had to bury like a 30-foot man. Oh, yeah. And they were just acting as if it was just casual. He makes another one in the place. There was some sexist shit in the crowd. I think they were getting their little baba boobies on a little bit too early on a couple different situations.

First playoff hole, Patrick Cantley in the middle of the fairway, and there's millions of dollars on the line. Literally. Every single shot, millions of dollars on the line. And I think he was in his backswing when some jackass did a baba booey or whatever, and then he hit it. And everybody's like, no, the video and audio are delayed. It's like, well, then how come everybody else's sound came,

it seems like, a half a second after that? There's some jackasses out there who I'm sure are watching this show right now who got intoxicated and just, you know, probably didn't even know what they were doing. There is so much on the line there. And Patrick Cantlie didn't bitch at all about it. But if he hits a bad shot there and DeChambeau wins, like, you know what I mean? And we miss out on that entire six run because one drunk out there has to scream something. It's just like,

come on, for the good of the game, for the good of the game out there. But I loved it. Great environment. Good golf. I wish they would have held off and not screamed in the middle of the backswing, but I enjoyed the hell out of golf yesterday. Well, and to your point, too, about the millions of dollars on the line there, too, because Cantlay won, now he has a two-shot lead next week for the FedEx Cup, and that's $15 million on the line. So if he plugs one into the water or, you know, goes OB with that shot, like, he would have a legitimate gripe.

And I think they said that Bryson's four-day total was the lowest score ever to not win that weekend. If he makes that putt for a 59. Oh, man. He wins. Yeah. Could you imagine if someone yelled in his backswing, too? What the reaction would have been from him?

I think somebody did. He actually stepped off the ball. Really? Yeah. There was a time where he was going to go and he backed up. And then that was, he goes back in. And that's whenever I did the DeChambeau just called game. Because he had the most violent, the most violent club twirl I've ever seen.

And that thing rolls up to six feet or five feet or whatever. Wow. Cantley was, I think, like 30, 40 feet away. Then he misses the putt and somehow Cantley's putt gets in there. That was just great golf. Really, really good golf. Big shout out to both of them and to the PGA for giving us an incredibly entertaining afternoon, which led into last night. Where we watched.

I enjoyed the Showtime presentation. I enjoyed the way they did some behind the scenes stuff. I enjoyed the way they actually took Jake Paul serious as a boxer. It felt like. And obviously he's very young in his boxing career. And the first couple. We have called into question the production. and the people that are on microphones for the way they're talking about the person that is feeding them at that moment. The reason why they are having a job and speaking at that moment.

I'm not saying in general, but in that night, normally it was because of a Paul brother and the way these people were speaking as if they had to put on for the combat community. This is a joke. This is bad for boxing. But I will accept a paycheck while being here to talk about it. It was a little bit of a hypocritical. I think Showtime this time completely different. I think the show was very much like, hey, Jake Paul was a Disney guy. Then he was a YouTuber and then he found boxing and now they treated it as if it was a much different chapter of his life

as opposed to just being the same part of it. I appreciated that. Tyron Woodley, I didn't know much about him before this weekend. I love that man. I love Mama Woodley as well. I'm a big fan of hers. I like that her and Jake's mom are hugging it out. And then I like the fight lineup as well. I'm a big fan of hers. I like that her and Jake's mom are hugging it out. And then I like

the fight lineup as well. That Montana love fight was electrifying. Serrano, awesome. I think cutting to Dave and Big Cat who were going through their struggles picking fights because they didn't know anybody else. I thought it was just a great night.

I thought it was a great night. Ariel Helwani, kind of a douche, but friend of the show. He had a hell of a night. I thought it was a great night. Ariel Helwani, kind of a douche but friend of the show. He had a hell of a weekend. I mean, the way they handled it. I just think job well done by everybody over there at Showtime. Incredible event. $16,000 plus at Rocket Mortgage. I don't think they should have had the hard cam on the stage.

No. I think they should have had the hard cam on the crowd because the crowd was so big it kind of looked small there at the beginning and then once they zoomed out and showed the crowd it was amazing i i absolutely loved everything about it yesterday while watching golf i thought to myself i gotta start golfing more so i can become a professional golfer this looks cool and then while i was watching this it was like i gotta start virtual reality boxing more because this looks cool. So as I was in my COVID cave, I can't thank the people at Showtime enough for an incredible show. And there was a couple of times while the commentators, Mauro Ranallo is an absolute rock star, by the way.

I mean, legend. spilled through microphones while calling events, whether it's mixed martial arts, professional wrestling, boxing, big moments, whatever the case, Mauro Ranallo is always going to show up. There was somebody with him who I'm sure is high respected in the boxing world, but as that doofus was stumbling through about five to six sentences a couple of different times, I thought to myself, they got microphones literally right now on Ariel Helwani, Dave Portnoy, and Big Cat. Three of the best talkers on earth. Why is this doofus speaking? I guess I should not be taking shots at that guy.

He's probably a great guy. He just seemed to get lost in numerous times. People think I'm a doofus as well. I just thought, why not just put—I thought they were going to be on the call the whole night, by the way. So did I. I thought it was rough and rowdy. So did I. why not just put i thought they were going to be on the call the whole night by the way so rough and rowdy so did i yep i was very surprised actually you know after i saw the the clips and everything was like oh okay so that is all that they're using them for yeah and by the way i

appreciate that good i laughed my ass off yeah watching them you know have to explain to people who don't know who they are who they are, basically. Big Cat, I am a stupid person. I wear a suit on Showtime. It's maybe one of my favorite moments I've ever seen and captured and everything like that. But I thought this was rough and rowdy. I thought they were on the call with Mauro Rinaldo. I was super pumped, but I enjoyed the whole thing. Congrats to Jake Paul.

A lot of people, obviously, it was trending for like 10 hours. Rigged was trending. Rigged was trending or whatever. But hell of a fight by these two, and I'm so pumped for the event because we needed it. NFL football is out for 10 more days. I think it was a beautiful Sunday night over there. Yeah, and it seems like there will be a rematch.

They said after the fight it was a little back and forth, heel whanny right in the middle. Jake Paul said if you get the I love Jake Paul tattoo on your leg, we will have a rematch. He said bet they shook on it. I don't know if he has the tattoo now. Jake Paul said they had the artist in the arena ready to go, so possibly already has the tattoo on his leg, but it was awesome.

And finally, you got to really see Jake Paul fight. I feel like none of his fights have really gone that far, and that was kind of the boxing community's thing was, well, he's never even boxed more than three rounds. He went the full eight. He looked good in all of them. He got rocked once in the fourth round, but he came back and he performed. It was awesome to see. I think there's no way anybody can't respect him now as a boxer,

especially Woodley. And Heelwani did say, you got to think, is Tyrone Woodley's legacy on the line here in the last round? So hopefully there is that rematch and maybe a knockout, some fireworks, because me and I assume a lot of others were just hoping for one of the two to get dropped. But it went the distance. It was a good fight. Well, that's what boxing is. You're watching for somebody to get dropped. Yeah.

Just like you. Don't feel bad at all. That's what we're all watching for is to see that. That Montana love fight with the Russian we talked about a couple of times was fucking awesome boxing. You know what I mean? Like it was all, especially cause the Montana love story, 16 months in jail for drugs and grand theft. And then he comes out on the other side, flashing box and says, Hey, it's my time. Strap me the fuck up. You said, I like that. If that's how we turn, is that how boxing is always

termed? Like give me a championship opportunity. Cause I love it. Like, Hey, strap me the fuck up is what somebody says when they want to become champ. I love it. Like, hey, strap me the fuck up is what somebody says when they want to become champ. I love that. I absolutely love that. I just thought it wasn't a sideshow. No. There was good boxing.

There was great entertainment. Now, you said that Jake Paul looked good. There was a couple middle rounds there where he looked like he was out of it a little bit, but then he seemed to regain his composure and catch his second wind. I think Woodley should be fighting Logan, not Jake again. I think Jake's way too early in his process to be doing rematches. I think there has to be somebody else. But I don't know the business as well as they do.

I just appreciate both of them going out there and swinging at each other for a bit. Well, Connor just mentioned that he thinks a lot of people now have to respect it. Do you think that is the case? Do you think people are coming around on him? Or do you think they still, no matter what he does, unless he wins a title or something like that, people are always just going to be like, oh, he's just the sideshow clown who comes in and sells a bunch of tickets and runs his mouth. Do you think people actually respect his boxing talent and acumen now i mean i think that's what boxing is right and i was thinking of this i don't want to say sideshow clown as boxing but moving tickets

and moving pay-per-view like i like the fact that they treated jake as a boxer this time right yeah like they treated him as a boxer in the coverage Right. Yeah. Like they treated him as a boxer in the coverage. The narrative was that he was a boxer as opposed to this is celebrity boxing. And then as I was in my COVID clads, I started thinking to myself even more like, is it all boxing? Just celebrity boxing? Because the bigger your celebrity, the bigger the event. Yeah. And Floyd Mayweather, is he not a celebrity?

Tyson Fury, is he not a celebrity? Deontweather, is he not a celebrity? Tyson Fury, is he not a celebrity? Deontay Wilder, is he not a celebrity? I don't understand the fact that he is popular as to why that is the reason why everybody wants him out of boxing, because I thought that was the purpose of boxing. And I think Showtime presented it in a way that was much more professional than it had been in the past,

even including what Showtime had done in the past with the Paul brothers. So I loved it. I enjoyed the hell out of it. Now, I wasn't allowed to leave my house, had been in the past even including what showtime had done in the past with the paul brother so i loved it i enjoyed the hell out of it now i wasn't allowed to leave my house so i was definitely going to watch that regardless sure but i wanted to be there it seemed electric in there i mean it seemed absolutely electric and rocket mortgage job well done can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes big thanks to our guests for their time today for the boys for their effort and for all of you hashtag endapod squad

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