The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 489 - Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Season 2 Premiere, Paddy "The Baddy" Pimblett, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: September 7, 2021On today's show, it is officially the start of season 2 of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday's, as the reigning MVP, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about everything that happened in the offseason, if he lik...es where things are at now, how he thinks bad quarterback play is being covered up in the NFL now, if it's going to be hard to decipher which defensive players are which now that guys can wear single digit numbers, his thoughts on the teams going into the season off the back of two consecutive NFC Championships, and much much more in the first episode of the season (17:30-54:58). Next, coming off a spectacular knockout in his UFC debut, one of the new faces of the UFC, Paddy "The Baddy" Pimblett, joins the show to chat about his spectacular performance, being from Liverpool, if he has anyone in mind to call out or fight next, his fighting strategy, and his ongoing battle with Instagram over his account getting banned (55:00-1:07:55). Later, Pat and AJ Hawk chat about AJ's terrible internet connection, targeting in college football, the Thursday Night game between the Buccaneers and the Cowboys, and everything else we need to know about the NFL as we gear up to start the season (1:11:41-1:35:11). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, it is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, September 7th, 2021.
The NFL kicks off in a couple of days.
Fan dole is giving away $100 million in free bets
and free daily fantasy entries for Thursday night.
I mean, it's a beautiful time to be alive
and we got Patty the Batty on the show.
All right, if you enjoy this thing by the end of it,
please be a friend, tell a friend.
If not, just act like it never happened, all right?
All right, good.
Deal.
Let's get to this thing.
Today's going to be massive.
Thank you so much for listening on Sirius XM Channel 82 Mad Dog Sports Radio
and watching along at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee Show every single day.
We are so thankful
that you allow us to penetrate your eyeballs and ear holes.
And I want to let you know,
not everything I do is obviously recorded and filmed.
There's a lot of things that I do behind closed doors
where I'm pounding on doors.
I'm kicking them open.
I'm asking questions that people probably shouldn't ask
to a lot of these companies and things.
Some of them are negative.
Some of them are positive.
We saw just a few weeks ago SeatGeek was offering up a discount to everybody.
Not just new users.
We're talking everybody on their platform because I went to SeatGeek and I said,
Hey, I'm fucking sick and tired of not being able to say to the loyal people that have been using your service for a long time that they don't get a deal is there any way we can get a deal for everybody and seat geek said
all right you're right yeah fucking enough okay now maybe a year ago or two years ago when i was
asking these questions i wasn't getting the same response but i was resilient i had grit i continued
to ask these questions and now i understand what i should expect and what I can expect. And with our biggest partner in FanDuel, who I think has done pretty fucking good, right?
Absolutely.
I think so.
Outright number one sportsbook on planet Earth.
I mean, absolutely killing it.
The app is gorgeous.
We've created and had so much fun in our relationship with FanDuel for different promos and specials. And I want to let you know, when I was in that COVID cave, and I was sending messages
and calls and relentlessly pursuing the dream of what we have accomplished, ladies and gentlemen,
I would like to formally announce that we are going to take at least a hundred-some
million dollars
from FanDuel this week.
What?
And I'm not talking about our company.
That's going to come.
That will happen at some point,
especially with the numbers that everybody else is allegedly getting paid.
I mean, there is only a matter of time for that.
What I'm talking about is this weekend, starting on Thursday,
all the way through week one, in celebration of the NFL being back,
we, okay, as a community, people that watch, people that listen, Thursday all the way through week one in celebration of the NFL being back we okay
as a community people that watch people that listen people in this studio will
be able to bet and take over a hundred million dollars in estimated losses from
FanDuel Sportsbook that was the actual email I got back if we were able to do
what you would like to do,
Pat, that would cost us a projected
and they gave me an exact number.
It was about $107 million.
Sheesh.
A lot of people would say, hey, you're our biggest partner.
You've done a lot for us. You've completely changed the course
of our show, our lives, and say, oh, we get it.
I said, no, no, because I was maybe
in a mood on that particular day.
A little bit of, no, I think we deserve a mood on that particular day a little bit of
no I think we deserve
this type of thing
I send back
so what
and they responded
you're right
let's fucking celebrate
the NFL
so this weekend
we need
a little bit of
celebration music
please Foxy Okay, here's the deal.
FanDuel Sportsbook.
All states have free entry into a Thursday night fantasy football thingy
that has $4 million in total prizes, $1 million to the top prize.
Okay.
Everybody on earth gets a free entry if you're 18 or older in America, obviously.
But fantasy is basically available everywhere.
You get a free entry into the fantasy contest Thursday night.
It has to be opening night.
$4 million in total prizes, $1 million in top prize.
There's more.
If you live in a sportsbook state, legalized sportsbook state for FanDuel,
you can participate in the $1 million top prize fantasy thingy for free.
Okay.
And you also get a free bet.
One free bet for the entire weekend.
Not just new users.
We're talking everybody that has a phone that is in a legal sportsbook state.
You have the capability for a free bet all weekend.
One free bet for the entire weekend.
Free fantasy entry.
If you're not in a sportsbook state, you go into the free entry for the fantasy football Thursday night.
You could win $1 million or a share of the $4 million in total prizes.
This is going to cost FanDuel, they said to me, $107 projected million.
Damn!
Let's fucking take every goddamn dollar they have.
The bet size for the free bet this weekend,
I guess it's actually on some sort of scale
depending upon how active you are.
If you're new,
so it's not like a set amount.
There's some regulations things
where different people I think are allowed more
as free bets and regulations
depending upon whatever.
I don't know the whole thing all I know is let's
take every fucking dollar they have
kicking off in
thank you
thank you
let's go
that's huge that is yeah
every single human gets a free bet
that's wild
that's a bad decision
$107 million dollar
Bad decision
Projected
So that is them
Also estimating
That a lot of people
Are probably going to lose
Who's going to win
Who's probably
So that's them
Trying to game a little bit
That was their
Projected number
I'm thinking
Projections are probably wrong
You know why
Buccaneers are going to be
Hey listen
You do your free bet
With what you got to do
Okay
You use your big brain You do whatever You got to do With your free bet Okay what you've got to do, okay? You use your big brain.
You do whatever you've got to do with your free bet, okay?
But I'm just saying, there's a couple games that seem like they're very easy to get out there.
So if that's a projected number, it's going to be, hopefully, a lot more
because they're assuming that people are going to lose.
No, no.
The people that listen to this show, the people in this room,
the people that are going to take advantage of this particular offer and giveaway,
they've got big-ass brains.
Hell yeah!
We pay attention to the NFL.
Now, we have been on the record of saying the first couple weeks of the NFL season,
we don't fully know what we're going to get.
Tough to bet.
It is tough to bet.
So I did push for this to maybe be a week five.
Hey, week six.
Just because, you know, I'm also participating in this thing.
I would like to also know what I'm doing.
So week one is a little bit of a crapshoot,
but there's a couple teams we know a lot about, I feel like, at this point.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, we know the Buccaneers.
We know the Chiefs.
Now, last year the Chiefs were an absolute, you know,
that gif where they're taking the money and throwing it into the fire.
Right.
Because they were favored to win 6.5, 9.5, 8.5, 5.5,
and they would only decide to win in the last minute
and try and only win by one. So a lot of us that were riding the chiefs train heavy and will continue
to do so lost a lot of money last year i think it's gonna be much different because they're pissed
off right about what happened in the super bowl travis kelsey's been open about i think patrick
mahomes has even talked about it tyree kill was almost in a race with you saying both and everybody
thought tyree kill might have some people thought that tyree kill would still have a shot that was
not an outright hey fastest man to ever exist will beat tyree kill they have, some people thought that Tyree Kill would still have a shot. That was not an outright, hey, fastest man to ever exist will beat Tyree Kill.
They have that guy on their team, a pissed off Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes back.
I think we know about the Chiefs a little bit more this year than we might have last year.
Buccaneers feels like a team we know a lot about.
And there's some others that we should be comfortable with a free bet and chance to maybe take,
I don't know what the max is going to be, maybe $200, $300 million from Fandul.
Let's fucking go, dude.
Might as well.
Let's go, dude.
Let's go and get it
and thank you to FanDuel for that.
I mean, you gotta be worried
that FanDuel might go bankrupt
with this Bucks game on Thursday night, too.
That is a little bit of a problem,
especially because conversations
we are having with them.
Exactly.
Right?
Yeah.
We need them to continue
to have some sort of fun,
so let's let other shows' peoples lose.
Cowboys look pretty good.
You know what I mean?
Nah, nah, nah.
Don't sway them.
You let other people
that are driving people to FanDuel
go ahead and say dumb stuff.
Okay.
Well, what if the Cowboys got it?
You know, big one.
Apparently, he's got the watermelons
ready to go.
No.
First week you bring out the watermelons,
what are you going to do week 10?
Pineapples.
Week 11.
Where's my shillelagh?
Oh, no.
I left my shillelagh.
What?
Yeah.
A European fellow mailed me something in the mail.
Oh, yeah.
Obviously, that's what you do when you mail something.
Fucking idiot.
It was a Shillelagh.
That's what it's called.
It's a beautiful Shillelagh.
I could have just traveled here and just placed it in your mailbox.
Well, but.
They did mail it through the mail.
Without it still being considered mail, I believe.
Mm-hmm.
There it is.
So, this year.
Okay.
All right. Uh-huh. Just like this weekend, Fandle's going to be taking a shellacking from the Shillelagh. There it is. So this year, just like
this weekend, FanDuel's going to be taking a
shellacking from the shillelagh. That's right.
I will hammer Don
and I will shillelagh through
that fucking sports book all summer.
All season. That sounds awesome.
It's the coolest thing. I didn't know what it was.
I'm like, sir, why'd you send me a
caramel apple?
I saw Zito try to take a bite I thought it
was meat on a piece of wood yeah it does look like a little bit of meat like crystallized
sugarized meat on that thing but this is allegedly a shillelagh and I got an entire message from a
guy he put a little smiley face on that thing too so some nice happy bitch comes alive it is happy
yeah well actually looks shocked oh so he's ready for more shillelagh he's got a good beard though
kind of looks like gumpy right now coming out of his COVID cave.
I mean, this thing is ready to go.
It's excited.
And let's start this weekend by taking every dollar the fan duel has.
Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, the first one of season two is today.
Yes!
He'll be joining us at 205 Eastern-ish.
Okay.
A lot of drama behind the scenes with that.
Really?
Oh, why?
Because, so I wanted to send a uh, you know, a socialite,
a ring light, an influencer light. Right. So that, you know, last year I felt terrible every
single week and I just didn't do anything about it when he was, you know, holding his phone down
cause he was tired by the way. And then every once in a while he would like, uh, have a scratch
or an itch and it felt like he was actually just go scratch right into the phone sometimes. But
what are we going to say? Because the guy's fucking doing
a great conversation and he might be tired
so I'm not going to do that. So we wanted to send
a socialite ring light thing to him.
Nice. It is not bought there yet.
Oh no. That's on Wisconsin.
That is on the mail system.
I did look for a
which we were just referring to. I was able
to get a shillelagh from Europe.
Can I get this goddamn ring light over to Wisconsin.
Are you kidding me?
We got good ones over there, though.
We know that.
Well, in Europe or in Wisconsin?
In Europe from the whatever that shiny flakes documentary.
We know.
They're shipping stuff.
Very quick.
No problem.
And you can unload a lot of stuff.
People won't even know for some time somehow.
You can just show up to all these things.
But anyways, I tried to get a bike rickshaw this morning, a pedicab, to get to Aaron.
Couldn't find any in town.
Really?
There was almost, you know what?
I don't want you to have to go through what you had to go through last year.
Sure.
Let's wait until the socialite.
I told him, and he said, no, no, no.
I'll hold the phone one last time.
Wow.
Stand up guy.
So we're excited.
I think he's excited.
Let's have a great conversation with that fucking guy.
Hell yeah.
I mean, I'm pumped up about it.
We're just a couple days away from, you know, the reigning MVP stepping back out on the field with his team after an incredibly, you know, chaotic almost.
But in his world, I think very zenful offseason.
Yeah, sure.
Somehow was able to separate himself from a lot of the shit that was going on about him.
I don't even know if he fully knew.
That's going to be one of my first questions.
You know, because he did come on the show last week
whenever I was at 104.5 degree fever and, you know.
Yeah, kind of odd.
What's that all about?
I kind of messed up.
No, we're over it.
I kind of put that on AJ.
He's holding the phone.
He's holding the phone one last time.
So I'm past that, okay?
There's at least a little pros and cons.
But I'm going to ask, how did he separate?
You know what I mean?
Because he said he had to do a lot of work on himself to do that.
I guess you just kind of have to detach.
And it goes back to, I think, the Bill Burr thing.
Whenever Bill Burr was told he was canceled a few times and he said, by who?
And then he said, if you just don't go on the app, you don't know.
Like, is that what he did?
Because if you don't go to the place where people are telling you that you're a prima donna diva piece of shit or whatever, like tree falling in the woods type thing, do you even really hear any of that?
And is it our job to tell him what was all said about him maybe to get the chip back on his shoulder a little bit?
Well, I think enough of the stuff with the GM in the front office has firmly placed the chip on his shoulder.
But you're right because it seemed like when he was talking to us last year, he's super perceptive.
He knows what is being said, whether it's on Twitter or on TV.
I mean, it was literally all we talked about for four months.
Not just us.
Yeah, every single show out there.
We were getting attacked, by the way, because of our relationship with Aaron and us talking about him.
We were getting attacked about it, not only by the people that were anti-Aaron, but even the pro-Aaron people were like, we've got to stop talking about him we're getting taxed about it not only by the people that were anti-aaron but even like the pro-aaron people are like we gotta stop talking about this and it's like hey listen
this is a massive fucking ordeal okay this is the reigning mvp a guy that i mean if we're to
actually do the number what is it 26 gms 27 gms probably right if he was to actually become
readily available would be very interested in keeping even he,
his age means nothing,
especially with what we're hearing from Tom Brady and everything like that.
And you go,
and this is not a shot at Tom,
obviously Tom's Tom,
but we could all say Aaron's a bit more athletic,
right?
For sure.
Tom has a body,
right?
Full body.
He's a bit more athletic.
I don't think Tom would ever get upset about that.
No.
Being said, that is a matter of fact, you know, that is just a full body. He's a bit more athletic. I don't think Tom would ever get upset about that. Being said, that is a matter of fact.
That is just a real thing.
So let's assume that he'll be able to continue to take care of his body with what Tom's going to be able to do
and everybody's saying Matthew Stafford's going to be able to do it
whenever he gets into this Rams offense with some protection and success
and everything like that.
I mean, Aaron could probably play another eight to ten years.
Oh, yeah. He told us last year.
That's a whole other career.
Yeah, and he feels better than he ever has.
Like, you know, I mean, he had a couple of years where he, you know,
broke his collarbone and missed time and stuff like that.
But he said last year, I mean, similar to what we're hearing with Brady,
like his arm has never felt better.
He's never felt better than he does right now.
At Ty Schmidt, one of the owners of the Packers at Boston Conner,
at Tone Diggs in the room with me, all the boys in the back.
I think this is exactly what the NFL was changing the rules for, though, right?
Yeah.
This is why the NFL started changing.
We need to keep the players.
We need to keep our quarterbacks mostly.
That's why they started changing all the rules.
So the NFL probably takes a victory lap hearing when Tom says, like,
oh, I feel good.
And they say not just this year,
it might not be his last for Ben Roethlisberger, too. And then you start talking about Aaron and things like that. The NFL is like, it, I feel good. And they say not just this year, it might not be his last for Ben Roethlisberger, too.
And then you start talking about Aaron and things like that.
The NFL is like, it's working.
So our rules in that particular aspect are working.
It's just, man, if you have one of those guys, I don't think you try to lose them.
No, not at all.
The NFL is changing the rules so they can keep them.
Yes.
Okay, the NFL is changing rules so they can keep them on the field.
And then some of the franchises don't even realize that they have them.
Well, it seems like some of the guys who are in those positions of power
feel like they operate above the law, above the shield.
And it just so happens that my team has two of those guys.
But what are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
That'll get all figured out, I'm sure.
Yeah, sure.
And I don't know how, obviously, I mean, with AJ's toxicity too,
I mean, AJ's going to ask about that whole off-season thing numerous times.
And I can't wait to hear Aaron kind of just, you know,
perfectly answer that and just say fuck you without saying it.
Good one, AJ.
And that's why I think that 35-minute press conference that he did
first day back was so awesome.
Can't wait to chat with him.
Now that the world's opening back up, so many new thrills are on the horizon.
And whether you've been in a relationship for years or just getting started, we're excited
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Let's not come too quick.
Oh, here we go.
That is not what they had in their copy.
Okay.
They should.
That was, I think they're going in a different direction.
So let's go back a sentence or two.
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The first Aaron Rodgers Tuesday of Season 2 of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday begins right now.
Ladies and gentlemen, we kicked off this show with a fantastic announcement about FanDuel
giving away a projected $100 million plus in free bets and a free daily fantasy Thursday night where you could win
a million dollars.
Free entry for anybody that is able in the United States, which means you're above the
age of 18.
If you live in a sportsbook state, you can also enter in for the free bet of the weekend.
I think it's a sliding scale on the max bet depending upon how much you bet.
It's not just new users, it's
everybody. They're projected to lose over
$100 million. We need to make that
$200 million, $300 million.
We need to use our big ass brains
and take every single dollar they
have. Speaking of big
ass brains,
last year, we got a chance
to have a weekly conversation with a man who would go on to win
the mvp what we learned was oh this guy who has always been described by the masses as a standoff
prima donna prick is actually a very thoughtful hilarious and clever individual he went on to win
the mvp losing the nfc championship uh game for the second year in a row. Then he'd go on to host Jeopardy. Absolutely crush it
and dominate it. Nail it.
Probably be named the head host
of Jeopardy if he wasn't still going to be
the MVP of the NFL. Ladies and
gentlemen,
Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah!
Yeah!
Yeah!
Dude!
I have COVID all over my
dropping dimes and socket signed shirt.
I need to get it cleaned. I would have worn it.
I can't thank you enough.
You look amazing, sir.
I appreciate you.
There is a Wi-Fi out.
What?
Friend of the day. Friend of the day. Oh, Jesus. Frank the Dang
Oh Jesus
I think it's on your side
It's definitely on your side
No no no
Ohio's got an outage
It's because of AJ
And I know
We didn't get to send you
The socialite in time
I told you
I tried to find a bike rickshaw
To get that thing
Delivered to you today
It'll be here
By next week
Aaron
Thank you so much for joining us
again. Last year, it was one of the coolest experiences of our lives. Get a chance to chat
with you. Last year, whenever we started this thing, you said your body was feeling better
than ever. Your headspace was better than ever. You went on to win the MVP. Where are you now
this year going in, Aaron? Your hair looks beautiful. The beard looks great. Obviously,
you look like you're in shape. How's the headspace, sir? The headspace is great. The beard looks great. Obviously, you look like you're in shape. How's the headspace, sir?
The headspace is great.
The Wi-Fi sucks ass.
It's all right. It doesn't matter.
You look good.
I don't know what's going on.
I mean, I got my hair all slicked up for this.
We'll call you back.
Let's call him back. We'll call you back, Let's call him back.
We'll call you back, Aaron.
Oh, man, I'm excited.
We stumbled out of the gates there.
Aaron Rodgers Tuesday.
This is not a sign of season two.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I do not need anybody thinking like, oh, no, bad start.
Because that is not the case. It is actually feels like there's maybe a plot against us today.
A little bit.
A little bit.
Take out Ohio, which is one of the big parts of the show.
The bike rickshaw, the pedicab couldn't get the socialite to Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, it feels like the universe is maybe operating against us,
but what the universe doesn't know is that this show has grit.
This show is resilient.
This show will continue to make magic because we get a chance to chat with a magic man.
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us again, Green Bay Packers quarterback,
reigning MVP of the nfl could be
the jeopardy host if he wanted to be the handsome the incomparable the clever aaron rogers
there we go we're clear let's go hey we're back it's good to be back with you guys i missed you
guys we missed you too we miss you a lot man nothing happened this off season that would
have been good to check in on.
I don't feel like you guys missed anything.
Okay, quick question.
Whenever you were deciding not to say anything ever through that entire process,
how hard of a decision was that whenever some of the shit was coming out, you think? Was it very easy for you to be like, why are we talking right now?
We have no idea how this is going to end.
Was that the whole mindset?
Well, you know, because you probably said on on your show you can't keep a fucking secret but I hit you up a
couple times and I was like maybe we should talk yeah but it just didn't it
didn't seem right the entire time because my motivation was never to slam
the organization or the fan base or anybody specifically. I, you know, I was just in contemplation and wanted to, you know,
take time to think about where I was at and what I wanted to do.
I didn't want to get into, you know, pissing match and, you know,
you and that other scrub from WWE, you know, who always tried.
I'm not going to mention his name.
Yeah.
Please don't.
Thank you.
You know, I just wanted it to be
cordial, I love the organization
I've had a long time
being here and I didn't want to make it
play out in public
well I appreciate that move
and I think we all did in the end
whenever you gave your 35 minute press conference
with one bottle of water
I mean it was beautiful
it was like Bob Ross
painting there. And by the end of it, everybody was like, oh, okay. So we understand completely
why Aaron feels the way he does. And your entire message since then has been like, hey, I'm back.
It's all football right now. How's the team? How do we feel? NFC championship last year,
that never gets talked about. Hell of a run. Only one team's going to win the Super Bowl.
You guys were one of the final four left. What is
the thought in the team and the locker room and everything
like that?
Pat, it's been two years in a row.
Nobody cares.
Unless you
win the championship. Although I know Ty cares.
I appreciate that.
I think the field is
good. Just like most of the teams in the league there
was some gymnastics that had to be uh gone through to get us under the cap uh this year
um not every team had to deal with it but a lot of teams uh who you know have uh a chance to win
it all there's been some constraints for that there's there's a lot of unknowns moving in the future so i think everybody's just focusing on this year and the guys that we got and i think
there's a consensus that we got a really good opportunity to put ourselves in that position
again like we have been the last couple years so there's a lot of positivity around around the
squad obviously we're bringing back most of the guys from last year added randall cobb to the mix
um you know so what you feel really good about our about our team we got to get through the first Obviously, we're bringing back most of the guys from last year, added Randall Cobb to the mix.
So you'll feel really good about our team.
We've got to get through the first six, it looks like, without another friend of the show.
Not as big of a friend as maybe me, but David Bakhtiari, who has become a better gifter, as we've seen.
Yeah, the golf cart was awesome.
But we'll get through these six and then look forward to getting them back.
Okay, I can't wait for Taka Tari to get back out there.
The 1169 golf cart was beautiful.
I enjoyed you driving that thing around.
And I think just like everybody expected,
you were very appreciative of that.
He said, and I quote, you know,
that I was a part of bullying him into buying that.
I started bullying him to be a good friend.
Okay, I apologize for that. I'm him into buying that. Hey, sorry to bully you and be a good friend. Okay, I apologize for that.
I'm happy you got that.
Let's talk about the team and the growth, though.
You know, everybody's back.
You guys got a roster.
It's unbelievable.
You and LeFleur in that IG story with the quote,
hey, we're supposed to hate each other.
Last year before the season we talked to you,
you said, hey, me and LeFleur had a couple of Zoom calls,
went through the first season together.
What we liked, what we didn't like, got on the same page. Another season here in that offense, getting comfortable with LeFleur had a couple Zoom calls, went through the first season together. What we liked, what we didn't like, got on the same page.
Another season here in that offense, getting comfortable with LaFleur.
How's he?
He's got to be pumped that you're all the way back in the building, I assume.
No, no, this fucker.
As we struggle through more wide spots.
Yeah, this fucking unbelievable.
This is A.J. Hawk's fault.
That's right.
This is A.J.'s fault, Aaron.
Goddamn rain we had.
We'll call him back.
We'll call him back.
All right.
We'll call him back.
All right.
Third down coming up.
That's okay.
That's okay.
We'll get him, right?
Third down is big.
This is money down.
That's right.
Need it.
This is money down.
Third down is big down now.
Get to fourth down.
I'm okay.
I'm very comfortable in that situation.
Yeah, yeah.
Sure.
All right.
I'm fourth down quarterback.
Always have been. Always will be. I'm very comfortable in that thing in Yeah, yeah. Sure. All right. I'm fourth down quarterback. Always have been.
Always will be.
I'm very comfortable
in that thing in the pocket.
But, I mean,
what is the deal, Zito?
Zito, is this
you and Billy
are fucking cracking
the code back there?
What's going on?
What are we doing?
I thought we could get
around this whole thing.
A lot of rain.
A lot of rain out there.
Yeah, by the way,
I hope everybody's okay.
There's a lot of storms
everywhere.
Seems like it's a Midwest
issue.
Outage.
Are we being attacked over here in America?
Could be, whether it's from China or Russia.
On three.
Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers is back.
Aaron, how you doing, pal?
I'm excited to be here.
There's a lot of rain this morning.
Big rainstorm.
Probably knocked out most of the Wi-Fi
routers across the
great town of green bay and
the smaller towns around so i mean anyway i'm back i'm here yeah hey you know what this is the best
this is the best i've ever seen you to be honest leflore though how happy and what did that post
on ig everything you post gets dissected obviously and i think at this point you know that you know
that at this point so that we were supposed to hate each other with a LaFleur IG story.
It was so beautiful.
Because I think last year you talked about how great your relationship was,
and they might have been trying to drive a wedge in between you this offseason.
Where are you and LaFleur at now?
You guys are just the bestest of friends, huh?
Yeah, just virtual middle fingers to the world, you know.
Yeah, I like that.
People who said, you know, we'd never be able to get along and coexist and all the bullshit with that audible story, you know.
I'd say quiet on that front, isn't it?
There isn't a lot of that conversation, but I think it's because both of you, right?
There isn't a lot of that conversation, but I think it's because both of you, right?
Like, LeFleur had to, and we've learned this now, he had to give up some of his pride and say, like,
okay, Aaron, you're going to go down as maybe the best football player of all time. I would like to have your input.
Like, that is, that doesn't seem like rocket science to do,
but I like the fact that he was willing to do that, able to do that.
How nice is it to be able to have a guy, though, that you can say like, hey, we shouldn't do that.
We should do this. That has to be a very empowering feeling for you in the year, whatever this is now, 17, 16, wherever it is.
17, Pat, thank you. It should be and it is natural.
You know, it should be natural for a person of my status and and age and experience
and it is i think it really helps having uh you know the other voices in the room i mean maddie's
like 41 hackett's 40 gets he's younger than i am by a few months and the four of us you know put
our heads together and and uh talk through the plans and the ideas and the creativity and um
and talk through the plans and the ideas and the creativity.
It's a really good thing, I think, for our offense and for our room to be able to have those conversations.
Now, the credit goes to those guys as far as creativity.
Those guys spend a lot of time going through the plan and getting things ready.
By the time it hits my radar,
late Monday, early
Tuesday, it's exciting going through the plan
with those guys. Ultimately, I think
the greatest
stretches
for our friendship in a positive way
was between the first and second year for Matt and I.
In this offseason, there was never about Matt and I.
We had great conversations throughout the whole thing.
I think there was some fear that maybe i wouldn't come back on his side
which you know was warranted because i was thinking about not coming back and then but
but him and i have always had a good relationship he flew out uh you know we had a good time in
malibu um he brought a couple uh couple of gifts as well um he knows how much I enjoy the brown liquor
and also some wine
he brought as well.
So that was much appreciated.
I love that Gundt...
Other people didn't maybe bring the same type of gifts
as Matty did.
Oh, I read about these trips, though.
I want to let you know, I read about these trips.
Was LeFleur the first or the last?
He was the first.
Okay, fucking LeFleur, he likes you the most. And LeFleur the first or the last? He was the first. Okay, fucking LeFleur.
He likes you the most.
All right.
And LeFleur's like,
this is a lot of pressure, man.
I could go back to college recruiting.
Let me get the booze out.
All right.
I think this is good.
What does he like?
Scotch, right?
He likes four fingers of scotch.
That guy loves throwing that down.
Let's get out of there.
A little wine out there.
That's awesome, man.
I'm happy to hear
that your two relationship is so good
because if I do recall,
one of the people
that was potentially involved in the whole thing said, hey, you don't be the fucking problem here your two relationship is so good because if I do recall, one of the people that was potentially involved
in the whole thing said,
hey, you don't be the fucking problem here.
And it turns out LaFleur was like,
oh, he's not the problem.
Hey, he's the answer, actually.
Yeah, this is good news.
Go ahead, Ty.
Aaron, wouldn't want you to throw...
Let me just respond to that.
It never fucking happened again.
I think I've mentioned that on this show,
but that never happened.
That alleged conversation never happened.
Which one?
Don't be the problem. That never happened. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. That alleged conversation never happened. Which one? Don't be the problem.
That never happened.
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.
That's a total lie.
That's a fabricate.
Oh, okay.
So I shouldn't hate him for that then.
Okay.
Let me take that back.
That never happened.
Okay, good news.
It never happens.
Is there anything else that never happened that we should know about?
As it comes up this season, I'll definitely be sure and write the ones that I feel like need to be righted that were wrong.
Yeah, because killing with indifference has always been your thing.
But there are some things that should be like, hey, we've got to nip this in the bud, especially now.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the whole, you know, deep house cleaning thing.
That's a total lie.
Or the golf deuce thing.
You know, that was a lie as well.
Now Green Bay Country Club, for whatever reason, decided to do some big renovation.
They're charging dues for certain, you know, for anybody who wants to stick around.
You're a little 7,500 little thing on top of your bill.
But you don't renew golf dues.
You either leave the club or you pay your golf dues there's
no like i'm gonna put my renewal oh you must be coming back that never happened yeah it's an auto
pay situation and i i think that was our immediate response because i've been charged at three
different country clubs around indiana because i became a member because i just wanted to golf on
one particular day and i've never golfed there ever again and I'm still paying for whatever fucking food they're adding to their list
every single time.
So it was a little bit of a nightmare.
It was a little bit of a nightmare.
I should go a little bit more and work on my putting, by the way,
because you're putting.
You got to get out of there.
Yeah, got to get out.
Got to call them.
Hey, don't be taking any $7,500, by the way.
I ain't fucking doing it anymore.
I golf in Montana with Bryson DeChambeau.
All right, that's all I do.
Go ahead, Ty.
Aaron, wouldn't want you to throw any dirt on anyone
or take any pot shots, but we saw from training camp,
you know, you standing next to Gutekinst
and not really Mark Murphy,
but I know myself and a lot of fans were hoping
that one of those days maybe you'd just throw a seed
right through both those fuckers' chests.
Notwithstanding, do you feel like as you guys got down to the 53 like
were things different this year do you feel like your voice was heard a little bit more
uh that's a good question ty you're full of great questions
some things never change uh i don't want to get into the depth of the conversations or the actual
conversations too much
I just feel like some things need to be
left where they're at
I will say that there has been
better communication than in years past
I think that was
understood by all parties involved
that that was kind of needed
moving forward to have
a chance to keep this thing rolling
so that was definitely a different level of communication
than years past, for sure.
Okay, so was there ever a time where you just wanted to say to him,
and you can't say this, I mean, you acknowledged it earlier,
and I'm happy you have acknowledged just like what everybody has known
that watches you play football.
But was your entire debate back was just, you should fucking want to know, like, what I think.
Like, was that said?
And was that what ended up happening at the end?
Like, yeah, we should want to know what the best player that has ever played and has been better in this league longer than we had any positions of power.
Was that the agreement that came towards the end there i think that's what a lot of people
want to know like how come your voice wasn't being heard when you're legitimately one of the smartest
players to ever play football one of the best players to ever play football why would you not
want that person's input is that where the conversation ended was it like that on both
sides or is that still something that has to be chatted about more? Pat, I think you have to understand that it's not necessarily that anybody is extremely wrong in the situation.
In all parts of society, at times, people do things because they've always done them.
Now, some would counter that and say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, right?
But in business, often in corporations and big business, things are done.
And look, it used to be done in the West Coast offense as well when Mike and I would have conversations over the years.
And why are we doing this?
Well, it's what they've done since 1989.
That's when Bill Walsh and Paul Hackett put it in.
That's the way they did things, you know, and be like, well, let's adapt.
Let's change.
And to Mike's credit, he had kind of the second iteration of the West Coast offense,
and we adjusted and did different things that the original West Coast offense wasn't doing.
And my point of saying that is in business, a lot of times you do things a certain way
because they've always been done a certain way,
or you've been modeled how things should work or operate and that's what you learn that's how
you grow up in the system and objectively there's been a lot of success in green bay doing it kind
of this way you know where coaches coach players, and personnel people make decisions.
They've also been fortunate to have some pretty good quarterback play over the last 31 years-ish starting.
So for me, it was just wanting to have a bigger impact
in decisions that directly affect my job
that I feel like I'm competent enough to
communicate with about that I know nobody knows the locker room better than I do nobody
has been you know around this place in a position of influence longer than I have and I mean
influence I've been starting out for 14 years so nobody knows the product like I do on the field. And that gives me a perspective that I
feel like adds, not dominates, but adds to a conversation when you're talking about players
or decisions that directly impact the product on the field. And that was my thing the entire time.
I believe for the majority of the offseason, there was an unwillingness to budge or to have those conversations. But you never know. I believe
in the possibility for people to change and grow. And it just takes small, minor adjustments in
habits. Habits take, on average, scientifically, I read this, about three weeks to fully kind of lock in your brain and change.
And so I always feel like that I'm three weeks away from a epiphany or a major life change or an adjustment that's going to positively impact my life.
And everybody who is in a position of influence here on Green Bay is three weeks away from that as well.
You're so fucking good dude why would you not want this human's opinions i have no idea it makes no sense to me but it's nice to hear that you have you know gotten potentially to a point
where you have enough self-respect where you say my opinion should matter here all right i've made
a lot of people a lot of money here we've won a lot I've had a lot of success
I love this place I love this
place you told us long before this entire
thing happened I want to retire a Green Bay
Packer I take a lot of pride in being a Packer
and for a California kid in the middle of
Green Bay with everything I mean it is
just I'm happy that we're maybe
getting closer and closer to that happening because
I think everybody wants to see you
have the same opportunities as anybody else that has ever been at your level in the game.
I can't wait for it, and I thank you for your time.
Go ahead, Diggs.
Aaron, Tom Brady, earlier in the season and now today,
was complaining about the defense at any position being able to wear
any number basically that they want.
And Tom said, no, he didn't actually say this, but Tom basically said,
I don't know who's the Mike anymore.
No, that's not what he said.
That's not what Tom was saying.
Is that going to be,
is that an issue that all quarterbacks around the league are thinking about or just Tom?
I'm not going to leave Tom out to dry with this one.
I think it is interesting to see the number of changes.
I'm out to dry with this one.
I think it is interesting to see the number changes. It's been obviously easier to figure out specific players and their roles,
but I think this will be just a week one thing where you have different guys
wearing maybe single-digit numbers who are defensive players
and figuring out what exactly their role is.
Are they a dime safety or are they a nickel?
Are they going to be an in the box player or now the box
player as we get into the season this will kind of all shake itself out i do think it is interesting
that they allow for self-expression now more with your through your number but not with this uh
bizarre uh tightening around uh whatever taunting is um you know you saw a few years ago with the
celebration crackdown the no fun league kind of reared its head now you saw it a few years ago with the celebration crackdown, the No Fun League kind of reared its head.
Now you've seen a lot more celebrations and, you know, full team celebrations after turnovers or touchdowns.
And I think the fans and the players definitely like that.
The taunting thing, I think it'll make you see how it's refereed.
I don't believe it's an objective call.
There's a lot of subjectivity in this,
and I don't think it should be reffed objectively.
I do want to comment on one thing I did see that Tom mentioned.
Somebody sent me a script in a roundtable.
It looked like it was some other teammates of his.
He was talking about the difficulty in defenses playing
and referring to throws over the middle and throws into tight windows and the
difference when he first got in league and i'm going to put myself just a few years behind them
when i first got in the league as well the way that the game was played is much different than
it is today with uh crossing routes not being as big of a thing uh kind of coming out of the
west coast offense in the 80s and 90s, the adjustment to that was having your linebackers, you know,
just hit the shit out of those crossers.
Kill them.
Yeah, to avoid from feeling so comfortable running over the middle.
And also, you've seen that.
That's out of the game now.
And also, balls down the middle.
You just didn't throw a lot of throws down the middle against single high safety,
even against, you know, too high unless you could throw them on a line because you didn't want to lay your guy out to dry.
There was headhunter safeties in the league who were going to make you pay
if you had your guy extended over the middle with his hands up or something.
Hospital ball.
Totally, totally.
I do agree with Tom in that I do think it dumps down the play a little bit
because there's not accountability for bad throws like it used to be. So I thought that was really interesting.
Big Bob Tunyon, obviously.
Big Dog also there.
Is that something you know you had to change your mind?
Like, oh, I can let this one fly a little bit down the middle because if not, it's maybe an added 15.
They can't really.
Was that a change that you had to make in your mindset in the game?
I don't know if I'm even there yet.
I really don't.
You know, I think a quarterback,
and I bet Tom would probably agree with this statement,
but my greatest fear forever was laying one of your teammates out.
Like the last thing you want to do is lead a guy into a big hit that causes him to, you know, get concussed or, God forbid, you know, not being able to get off the field on his own power.
That's your greatest fear because that guy is trusting you with his health really as much as i'm trusting takatari and my lineman
to protect me those guys are trusting me to protect them with a throw and that's why the
west coast offense has always been predicated on proper number and and location for the football
and that's the way i learned and it was to avoid it was to allow for yards after the catch and to
you know throw the ball away from contact for your stud player.
So that was the greatest fear of mine.
Now, you don't think like, oh, I can throw whatever the hell ball I want down the middle now
because if the guy gets rocked, it's going to be an extra 15.
I do think it takes some of the contact out of the sport and some of the, you know, consequences for poor decision making off the quarterback and on to the defensive player, which I think is very difficult now to play defense at certain positions and certain parts of the game.
But you'll take advantage of it if you have to, because that's a fucking game.
Hate to break it to you.
Sorry about it.
But I do like the fact that you came out in defense of him
because a lot of people were saying,
oh, here's Tom bitching, here's Tom bitching.
It's like, no, I think this is a real thing.
And any time...
Let me, let me, he's not bitching.
He's not bitching.
He's actually talking about how, you know,
he thinks that the product is less than it was.
And I, you know, I would have to agree with that.
You know, if you're allowed to just throw some shitty passes down the middle
because your guys aren't going to get rocked
and you're not going to put your guy in a stretcher,
I think that dumbs down the product a little bit.
I do think it is hard to play defense.
You watch certain guys, and I've told guys before,
and I think defensive guys would back me up
in the conversations we've had on the field, I'm not begging for, you know, roughing the
passer calls.
I might get pissed about what seems to be a, you know, a little contact, a holding,
a pass interference, but I'm not, I'm not bitching about, you know, about roughing the
passer calls.
I don't get a lot of them and I'm not asking for them.
You know, I'm not asking for rules to be made here or anything.
I'm asking to be treated as a football player.
If a guy drills me in the head, that should be a penalty.
Yeah, and I think the NFL, by the way, and we talked about this earlier,
the fact that you can play another eight to ten years, no problem, by the way.
I think the NFL takes a victory lap on that
because now Tom's able to play,
you're able to play a lot longer because that's what they were making the rules because we need
to have our big guys playing. So I think there's a happy balance there, but I appreciate the fact
that you and Tom, the two, hey, here it is, by the way, and we're living in the middle of it right
now and we are for the foreseeable future. Anytime you two speak, I think it's great. I think it's
better for the game. So I appreciate you both there there we have a question from ohio uh man who just got
his internet back i believe uh ladies and gentlemen aj hawk your question for aaron rogers
let's go good to be with you guys good to see aaron you're looking great your hair looks good
obviously now you were talking this has been a great talk you didn't Good to see you, Aaron. You're looking great. Your hair looks good, obviously. Now, you were talking. This has been a great talk.
You didn't have to bring me in, Pat.
I thought you were doing a great job.
No, no.
So, as far as the taunting rule, are you scared to give the belt now?
Let's say third and seven.
You scramble for eight.
Can you give the belt?
Do you have to make sure that your pelvic region is pointed away from the defender
that may have pushed you out of bounds?
I think it's got to go light on the thrusting, maybe.
When the refs came in and tried to explain it,
it was all about the direction of the separation.
I don't know, you know, degree-wise,
if you're facing the guy directly and maybe eye-to-eye,
then you got to be really careful, I guess. the guy directly and maybe eye to eye, you know,
then you've got to be really careful, I guess. But if you're slightly offset,
then I think you're going to be okay.
Like I said, it'll be interesting to see how this
gets refereed because
you're talking
about the trash
talking. Pat, you know, Age, you know.
It's not what it was back in the day.
Back in the day, there were some legitimate trash talkers in the league who who really got after you every snap
every play it's not the same type of trash talking you know it's it's it's guys getting hyped about a
certain play um i don't know i don't want to see the hype and the excitement taken out of the league
ever ever you know though like and like I told the rest in the conversation,
you know when it's an obvious one.
And Tony Carrente was in with us, and Tony's been around for a long time,
and I have a lot of respect for him.
And he was basically saying the same thing.
Like, you know when it's the obvious taunting ones,
when a guy just kind of goes nuts, puts the ball in somebody else's face
or does something a little bit over the top.
I think everybody's fine with that call.
It's the borderline ones where a guy just gets up and celebrates.
You know, Jamal Williams.
The thing about Jamal Williams, you know, just total hype man.
You know, he'd get up and shaking his hair and getting all crazy hyped up.
None of anything that he ever does should be a penalty, I don't think.
And I hope it's repped as such.
You talk about tony carenti the issue is we never chat about you know like some of these refs don't have
a clutch or an it factor either some big moments happen and all of a sudden they just like panic
and i think if there was a better feeder system for these refs i think we'd all be much more
appreciative and comfortable with them making decisions you You know what I mean? I'm going to suggest that Gene Steratore open up a school for how to white cap.
And you know, he's a yinzer, I believe, right?
Yes.
Yes.
Paisan as well.
Gene is, you know, one of the best refs, if not the best refs I've been around in my time.
But one main factor is that Gene got it.
Like, he got the whole thing.
It was never too big for him, and he understood the moments.
And he repped as such.
He did not try and become bigger than the game.
He allowed for conversation.
He was always talking to guys.
Oh, yeah.
That's the great thing.
Some refs didn't talk to you or didn't give you warnings
or just alert you to certain things.
But Gene was always great about that.
He was always very communicative about certain things.
And then, you know, he made the calls that he needed to make.
But he controlled the entire game.
And I think if he opened up a school for refs,
the NFL should mandate everybody go there.
In the last few years, there have been a lot of great whitecaps, long-time guys who have retired.
So it'll be interesting to see how this next group of people takes the game to where it needs to go.
I didn't expect to get into this conversation, but the TV companies are offering them so much more money.
And Gene's amazing on TV, but it's like, our game is suffering without you.
Dean Blandino leaves, obviously all hell breaks loose. I mean, there is a lot of great refs that
kind of get plucked from the field because these TV companies do. Gene Steratore was all, he talked
to every, it's like he had a relationship with everybody. He knew everybody's demeanors. He knew
everybody's style of play. He was cool. I love Gene, man. Hockey Lee was another good communicator.
I think that's why people appreciated him. Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, Aaron, going a little further back into training camp,
with the Jets-Packers joint practice,
did you and Zach Wilson dive deeper into the swag,
inner essence conversation, or was it more about attacking defenses
and slinging darts?
Well, Connor, good question.
I don't know how you can really combat that question.
When I formulated that
response to the idea of swag through uh you know deep meditation on the essence of life um i
and and made that statement i don't think there's much you can say to that
but not a lot of rebuttal you know gets you a lot of traction, I don't think, in that trip.
But I have a lot of respect and love for Zach.
I think he's a really good young kid.
I think he's extremely talented.
He has a bright future.
I think he just has to get through these first couple years
where it's tough as a young player on a team that still needs some pieces um you know
to to deal with the ups and downs of of frustrations and and the high points and i think he
mentally and and dispositionally he has exactly what you'd want for a young team he's got a great
coach in sala a lot of respect for him.
Love hanging out with Matt's younger brother, Mike LaFleur,
who's the offensive coordinator.
He was a lot of fun to shoot the shit with.
James Morgan, a Schwabinon product.
The Schwabinon, obviously, right down the street from Green Bay.
Of course.
High school, he just threw a Hail Mary.
Shout out to James for that in the last preseason game.
But it was fun to see those guys.
And luckily, we only had a couple big fights.
And less after, you know, Gerard Davis got an injury in practice.
Hey, with guys like Zach Wilson and all these young studs
that are coming in and going to play as rookies,
what's the toughest thing for them to figure out, I guess?
Obviously, the situation counts.
Like, Mac Jones seems to be in a pretty good situation.
He's playing well.
But what's the toughest thing, I guess, for a guy coming in day one and starting?
I think it's the team around you, for sure.
The expectation is going to be so high, obviously, based on where you're picked or playing.
But so much of your early success is predicated on the guys around you.
Now, there's a lot to be said for, like I said, disposition and moxie and confidence
and those things, but if you don't have anybody around you, which many of these teams who
pick guys at the top, like a Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville or Wilson, you know, it's
going to be a little bit harder than maybe a Mac Jones who goes to New England, and I
don't know what their personnel is like, but I do know they spent a lot of money for agency last year, I believe.
So you would think that possibly they might have a few more pieces.
And also he got picked a little bit lower.
They weren't picking at the top, top of the draft.
So you've seen guys like Dan Marino and Ben Roethlisberger have some great starts as a rookie.
And you've seen guys like Peyton Manning who had more of a struggle in the beginning.
But all three of those guys figured it out.
And I feel like the best guys are going to be able to weather these initial storms of a young career
and figure out a way to get their teams back to prominence, teams that picked really high in the draft.
I have no idea how the world let you sit on the bench for three years in Green Bay.
I have no idea.
I wish we could have seen you earlier.
I think obviously your numbers would be much larger,
but I am so thankful we get a chance to watch you play football
and join us every Tuesday.
Have an incredible afternoon, sir. I can't thank you enough well first of all thank you um i was behind brett
farb one of the greatest players of all time first of all um so i couldn't play and it was a
different time where you draft a guy and it was okay to sit uh now it's not okay to do that but
i do want to finish this because you do say it's Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays,
not Aaron Rodgers coming on the Pat McAfee and A.J. Hawk show or whatever.
A.J. made me say that.
But I would like to push one initiative that I am all about
that I talked about last year, reading, right?
So this training camp.
What you say, it cut out literally as you were saying
the one thing you care about
reading
I ain't fucking doing it
Marquez Valdez-Scantling
asked me to help him with kind of
a starter pack of books
for training camp
so I went to Barnes & Noble
shout out Barnes & Noble
and picked up some uh uh some
books for him to get going and i i saw something online about somebody wanting uh you know some
some books to get started on their own so i thought that i would talk about some of my
favorite books in this show even if just for a minute so hey fucking aaron rogers tuesday book
club dude i've never read a book in my life i'm
with it if you want to be about it though i'm all okay i'm all about it and the first one is one of
my all-time favorite books and it's an easy book and it's a fiction which i don't read a lot of
fiction but it's been around for a long long time and it's called the alchemist. Is that a movie too or no? The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho. So this is my first
recommendation. I just finished it during the training camp again. I like to, uh, you probably
can't see that, but I like to highlight my books. I use the blue highlighter. There's some highlights
in the book. Phenomenal book. Check it out. We need more people reading and people spending time
sitting on their ass watching TV and other bullshit.
So read a book and watch the Pat McAfee Show whenever you can.
I love you.
Ladies and gentlemen, I can't wait to talk to you after your first game this weekend.
Good luck out there.
Thank you once again.
I'm definitely going to find the Alchemist book and read it before next Tuesday.
Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Book Club is something I didn't know we were starting.
I'm all about it, though.
Me being associated with books is maybe a bigger problem than me being associated with politics,
but I'll power through for anything for you, sir.
Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah!
Chatting with us now, by the way, first-time guest.
Ooh!
Hey, fucking electrifying i mean this
and obviously we are a dumb american nfl football show right that's right and we have our blinders
on and we don't know much about much but we should have known about this fucking guy long ago yeah
and i'm almost embarrassed that i didn't i had heard ariel hawani speak of this man
but he made his uf UFC debut this past weekend.
Knocked the guy fucking out.
All right?
Knocked him out.
Got eight a couple punches.
Fucking nothing.
The guy's a robot machine.
Then cuts a promo afterwards.
Tells Dana, I'm the money now.
Okay?
Electrifying probably the next big name in the fight game,
ladies and gentlemen, Patty the Batty Pimblen.
Paddy, what's going on, pal?
What is happening?
How are we?
Are you back in Liverpool?
No, I'm in Cornwall at the minute, which is the opposite end of the country.
Nice.
How's the celebration been?
Life has to be good. You've turned down thec two times in your past because you didn't think
you were ready i think if the internet tells me the right then you join ufc it's a big deal
obviously in the fight world knock a guy out cut a promo you're back in life has to be fucking good
huh yeah life's good lad life's good i. I'm just being stocked up on some nice
food, lad. Getting me food in me.
I enjoyed some nice American food
before I left, lad. Some
Popeyes, some Shake Shack, some Dairy Queen.
I went in good and proper
after I won. Yeah, you deserve it.
You should celebrate. We're great at the fat foods, too.
You know what I mean? Like that Dairy Queen. Did you get
a Blizzard, Oreos, cookies and cream? What'd you go
with? No, you go with?
I went with the Reese's one with extra brownie and caramellon.
Oh! Fat boy
Patty. Okay. Now we're
talking. You got your
Instagram back as well. What was that all about?
Why'd the Lizards take your Instagram?
I didn't get my Instagram back.
That's just a new Instagram.
Oh, so you had to shut down another one,
create another one,
got 477,000 followers already on a brand new one?
Yeah, I only had 30,000 followers this time last week.
Good for you.
Come on.
Good for you, dude.
So I had heard in red
that you had turned down the UFC two times prior
because you didn't think
you were ready is that accurate or is that wrong and do you obviously at this point you have to
think that that was the right decision yeah of course that is accurate in 2016 and 2018 I got
off of the contract both times and I was only 21 and 23 years of age so I wasn't ready at the time
and I'm so glad that I never
took the offer because
it wouldn't have blew up like it did this time
you know what I mean I've waited for the
right time and
I know where I'm headed lad I know that I am
the new face of this company and I'm
the new cash cow lad it's
been my destiny for years it's just
finally happening now
and it's only happening because you finally decided and chose for it too.
That's fucking awesome, Paddy.
Paddy the Batty is an incredible nickname.
The Batty, I assume, has just been what you've been called your entire life.
Have you just been a fighter in the streets of Liverpool your whole life?
No, not really.
I just started doing MMA in my gym when I was 15.
I got training, I got good at the fight.
And when I went like two or three and all, my coach just randomly gave me the nickname Paddy the Paddy.
So that's where that comes from.
When I was like 16, I got given that nickname.
So yeah, I've had that nickname for 10 years now.
And it's a marketer's dream, isn't it, to be honest?
Yeah, it's an incredible dream.
Oh, I see the poster.
Oh, the merch.
Oh, my God.
You're going to be selling out everything.
Good for you, dude.
Patience, too, in buying your time.
I'm a Scouser.
I don't get knocked out.
I did some research.
Scouser is the Liverpool accent.
Is that accurate?
Yeah, that's it. You're a scouser if you're from Liverpool.
You're a scouser.
And what is...
Man, that...
So you speak differently than other English people, yes?
Yeah.
We speak the same language,
but a lot of people
think that I'm Scottish or Irish at times
because I just don't sound English.
So I'm from Pittsburgh.
We have a Yinzer accent, and it's similar, I think, in the American world.
People can't understand us.
They think we just sound like doofuses.
Does the Scouser accent, is it a good-sounding accent over there?
Do a lot of people wish to have the Scouser accent?
Yeah, a lot of people do wish
to have it, but at the same time, they'll
skitter and talk about it because
they're jealous. Yeah, that's
like us in Pittsburgh. That's exactly like us
in Pittsburgh. Exactly the same.
Man, if you were from Pittsburgh, that'd be fantastic.
You just ate punches.
Literally just ate them this weekend. It seemed like there
was a couple moments where you were maybe going to go out.
You ate them.
It didn't even look like you broke a sweat.
And then you just killed the guy.
Do you just have an iron jaw?
Is that what it is?
You just can't get it?
Yeah?
Well, I've never, ever been knocked out.
I've been doing this sport for 11 years.
Never been knocked out.
I can't help but
stick my chin in the air like the
commentators were saying. It's just one of them.
When someone knocks me out,
I'll say, it's just not
going to happen.
Man,
you said you just leave your chin
out there. That's like a tactic of yours? You're like,
yeah, I'm going to eat some punches in this fight?
Like, that's just a normal thing?
Like, hey, I'm not too worried about it?
It's not.
It's not a tactic.
Like, at the same time, I can't help it.
Like, I like it.
I like it.
It's not that I like getting it, but I have to be.
Nah, he's got AJ Hawks service in there.
Yeah, well, he's so far away.
Did you see how long this thing lasted without it breaking up?
Yeah, unbelievable.
And he's on the opposite end of England than Liverpool.
That's right.
Oh, there you are.
Hold on.
Hey, sorry, we lost you over there.
I think it's because you're in a different country.
It's not.
It's the signal where I am.
Look, I'm on the beach.
Runs on the middle of nowhere.
Hey, you deserve that. Live the dream over there. But what you were saying is you like beach front in the middle of nowhere. Hey, you deserve that.
Live the dream over there.
But what you were saying is you like getting punched in the face
or it feels like it wakes you up?
I don't like or not like getting punched in the face.
I can tolerate getting punched in the face all day,
especially to give people the money's worth and a better show.
It wakes me up getting punched in the face, lad.
So you're like the dream fighter, it seems like.
And Dana knows this?
Has Dana chatted with you since your promo where you said,
let's take this over to England and I'm the new moneymaker?
Have you chatted with Dana since then?
Oh, no, I haven't.
I haven't had a once-or-once-or.
I think I'll be able to convince him to come over to England, though.
Because as I said, I'll blow the roof off the arena.
I'll be ready to do it.
Obviously, you're a massive... Are you huge in England? As I said, I'll blow the roof off the arena. We'll do it.
Obviously, you're a mass.
Are you huge in England?
I'd assume that just like Conor was taken in by Ireland almost like,
hey, this is our guy.
We have a guy.
Las Vegas was overrun by Irish folks every time Conor fought.
The press conference when he was fighting Floyd in Dublin was huge.
Is it like that for you in England right now?
In the city of Liverpool, 100%. I know for a fact there'll be just as many scouts as in Vegas as there was in Ireland.
The scouts will take over.
I swear there'll be too many of them to count.
All right, well, I hope Dana does that.
Let's go.
Ty, what do you have?
Paddy, I know you didn't really want to call anybody out or anything like that,
and you seem like the kind of guy who's just like,
you know what, fuck it, put someone in front of me and I'll destroy them.
But in a perfect world, if you were to get a main event at the O2 Arena
or in London or whatever, who is a guy right now that you would really want to fight?
Anyone, like I say. I don't need to mention anyone's name.
My name's on everyone else's tongue, lad.
I don't need to give anyone any publicity.
They can all work for their own.
I've done my bit, lad.
Any dream scenarios, though?
Well, when it comes to money, it's got to be Connor on it.
You know what I mean?
That's them pay-per-view points.
Big C, Matt.
This is smart, by the way, of you.
This is good business by you.
This is what the 21 and 23-year-old wouldn't have known, but now the older Paddy the Baddie
knows about.
This is brilliant.
You're going to change the game.
I am what I am.
I'm coming to do that.
That is what I'm here to do.
As I say, I just can't wait
to keep fighting, keep beating people
up, keep getting paid,
and I'm happy.
I fucking love this. Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, Paddy, you mentioned you still have yet to
get your real Instagram back. Has there
been any thought to go over to the
Instagram HQ and roll some
heads over there, or are you just kind of putting that to bed?
I know
now I've got three times
the amount of followers on this account
I don't need to do that
I'll just leave them to it, the lizards
When I heard you use the word
lizards as a
derogatory name towards somebody
I lost it
I'm going to drop that on Smackdown on Friday night
I'm going to say, if I heard Patty the Batty say one thing,
it's this guy's a lizard right now.
I mean, it is so terrible to say.
I mean, it is a terrible thing to say.
And the Instagram people probably had no idea Patty the Batty exists.
What did you get blocked for?
What did you get banned for?
Well, bullying and harassment when it was me getting bullied and harassed,
and I just give it back to trolls.
I don't let trolls take the mick out of me, and I give it back,
and then they report me, and my account got took.
It's just ridiculous.
Yeah, it's bullshit because, listen, if they talk shit to you,
they're opening the door for you to come in.
That's just classic.
I love whenever somebody does that on the Internet,
and then they go, oh, real classy out of you.
It's like, oh, shut the fuck up.
I don't like it, Paddy. It happens to me all
the time as well.
Same, and then they report you, and because
of the following, we've got more people
who report us, so we get banned.
Fuck off, social media.
Fuck off.
By the way, that is the English middle finger.
Oh, that's right. That's the English middle finger, right?
Yeah, we have both.
We have two and we have that one.
Yeah, yeah, that's ours.
Ours is that one, but this one gets by American TV, by the way.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, there's been a couple English wrestlers that come out and do it
and it just goes on TV or whatever.
And it's like I ask them what it is.
They're like, fuck you.
Oh, okay. That's awesome that you guys what it is, they're like, fuck you. I'm like, oh, okay, that's awesome
that you guys could just do that.
Go ahead, Tone. Patty, are you
calling people or other fighters
in the ring lizards? Are you talking shit in the
ring?
No.
I haven't, in the past,
I haven't ever called anyone a lizard, but
I've spoke to people while I'm fighting.
You never know.
It could come back in the future.
It just didn't come out the other night.
What do you say to them?
Are you telling them you're going to beat the shit out of them?
We have a guy named Larry Bird over here.
He is one of our best trash talkers because he would literally just tell the person what he was going to do.
Then he would do it to them.
There was nothing they could do.
They said the head games were crazy.
What are you doing there?
Are you trying to get personal, or are you...
How is your strategy of shit-talking while you're
fighting another human in a cage?
I wouldn't get personal. And I like...
As I say, I enjoy it.
So I like smiling at them.
Before the fight starts,
I come out smiling, and then I'll
just, like, I go into, like, autopilot, I just change, and I start snarling them.
You know what I mean?
Snarl for...
I'm trying to think of the word for snarl.
When I look at someone like that...
Oh, like a psycho.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
I just don't take my eyes off them.
But then, obviously, if things are going smoothly,
I'm going well, and I'm jabbing his head off,
I will.
I'll give a little laugh out.
You're the best, dude.
I can't wait for everybody
to go to thebaddie.com,
buy some merch,
support our guy
who's about to be
selling out arenas.
We can't thank you enough
for your time, Paddy.
Enjoy the beach.
Enjoy getting fat
before your next fight camp, pal.
Oh, lad,
I'm going to enjoy it.
Look on my Instagram, lad.
You're going to see some nice food the next few days and desserts.
All right, well, don't bully anybody, okay?
Is that you smoking dope or that you eating good food?
What?
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
This way.
Hey, ladies and gentlemen.
The future of the fight game,
Patty the Batty Pimble.
Yeah!
What a fucking legend.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
Hey, it's tough, too, you know what I mean?
Badass.
Yeah, it's badass.
Does it fit all size?
Yeah.
Does it fit all size trucks?
Yeah, so actually that was quite an issue.
Billy's baby truck and Diggs' big monster truck.
So Diggs doesn't have a monster truck.
He's got a 15-gallon tank or whatever in his truck.
That's right.
What is it?
23.
Really?
Oh, see, in my head it was a 15-gallon.
I thought it was just a little baby boy.
It might be 15 gallons less than yours.
Ah, no, no, no, no.
Good truck then.
Your truck is beautiful.
I thought it was a little baby gallon.
I thought, honestly, because they were saying it was a Mickey Mouse truck.
No, that's Bill.
Bill was saying that. Bill was saying that about your truck.
Oh, because Bill's got that great truck.
Yeah, nine gallon tank on Bill's.
What's that, dude?
Toyota.
Are you all right?
Not a Ford, that's for sure.
Well, Toyota actually turns out,
Toyota's actually the most American-made car that there is.
Yeah.
It wasn't built for tough, though.
Well.
Well, yeah, for tough has been.
But anyways, AJ, thanks for causing that conversation to go the way it did.
But, yeah, there's five-and-a-half foot, six-and-a-half foot, four-and-a-half.
They have the different sizes of your bed.
It was actually a massive mistake.
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It is not that large
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Joining us now, ladies
and gentlemen, a little bit late, but his internet is fantastic
I've been told. Ladies and gentlemen, a little bit late, but his internet is fantastic, I've been told.
Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk.
Yeah!
So mad.
Fantastic.
So mad that he's chosen. Oh, no.
Dude.
So fucking mad right now.
Oh, my.
AJ, what do you think about Thursday's game?
AJ, how do you feel about last year?
You said the Dallas Cowboys were going to be in a Super Bowl.
They were not. Do you feel like people year? You said the Dallas Cowboys were going to be in a Super Bowl. They were not.
Do you feel like people questioning your intelligence is right?
Oh, no.
He's shook right now.
He doesn't know.
He's going to be so angry.
He's froze?
He has called no less than four different internet companies in their answers
and let them know that he fucking hates them right now.
Yeah.
This is such a thing because it feels like AJ doesn't really care about much,
as he shouldn't. His legacy is cement cemented his kids are going to be successful
he has so much money it's stupid from business investments and getting the number five overall
pick payment pre-new cba which i mean he is live he gets genuinely upset if the sound or video
quality is bad on a show.
Oh, yeah.
There was numerous times last year whenever the COVID-19 world stoppage happened and people were doing shows.
And, you know, somebody on either Fox or ESPN or CBS or NBC, one of these, they didn't have proper microphone or video equipment.
I'd get a text from him about how disgusting and unprofessional it was.
And then here we are about a year or two into a relationship
of him joining us every day.
He's the only reason why we ever have poor video or poor audio.
Ladies and gentlemen, the man that hates his Achilles heel,
AJ Hawk.
Yeah!
What's up, dude?
Yeah, nothing.
I can't even talk about it.
This is unbelievable.
Hey, you came on.
It pisses me off so much.
I heard Ty say something about $45 router.
Like, if you knew how much money I was spending to try to figure this out,
like, this is not acceptable.
It's not.
Okay, how many people have you told that it's not acceptable this morning?
Have you been on the horn,
or have you just been trying to plug in things to make this work better?
Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to take from the great Zito
and try to unplug and replug and figure things out and call people.
Yeah. Oh, is there an outage? Oh, no. Everything looks good for on our end.
No, it doesn't. We appreciate you figuring it out.
Hey, AJ, it's Aaron Rodgers Tuesday.
Fandul's giving away like at least a hundred and some million dollars.
It's great to see you. You look great.
So was that your big announcement?
FanDuel's giving away, sorry, I've been out with, my internet's been spotty for a while.
They're giving away 100 mil?
Yeah, $100 million in free bets and free daily fantasy entries or whatever.
There's already 280,000 people, I guess, in the fantasy football Thursday night free entry for $1 million as a top prize.
$4 million in total prizes. Everybody in America can enter for free. Thursday night free entry for a million dollars as a top prize four million dollars
in total prizes
everybody in America
can enter for free
that's normally
a five dollar entry
I believe
but everybody's available
to do that
and if you live
in a sports book state
you can do that
okay
enter in for a million dollar
top prize
which by the way
I'm not a fantasy
fucking guy at all
but I'm gonna do this
if there's a million bucks
oh
holy shit
I tried to explain to the guy
a hundred million million being given away
by Fandone. His internet said, we don't want to hear it,
pal. Get him off the screen. Is he ever going to be
able to recover from this? It seems like he's on
the verge of losing it.
This is not acceptable coming out of
his mouth. Do you know how many
I need to speak to the managers that he has
had?
Oh my god.
Hey, listen. This is not
a $45 router. Hey, listen. Karen Haas. This is not a $45 router.
Yeah, sure.
I have spent,
I,
listen,
as somebody who saw his setup in there,
it is,
he's much more invested in the show
than I could imagine.
Really?
Yes.
It is a beautiful setup.
Like it is,
we say he's in an attic.
It's the attic of an estate.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So it's a little bit different
than probably what we all think.
Kitchenette.
Yeah. I mean, it is very nice up there. there and the tech he has nicer tech than we do in this
particular studio really wow yeah the camera he has is unbelievable the audio is unbelievable
just nobody can hear it because he can't get internet to his house sure well here's the issue
he's got a wild card axel's downstairs chewing on the cords so that's probably so i was facetiming
with aj and uh axel came on the screen And he literally just screamed butt cheeks at the screen
Nice
That's going to be a problem probably
I think so
That kid's going to be a problem
He comes from the Hawks
So you know what AJ was doing when he was his age
Probably his oldest son, Hendrix or whatever
He's got the same haircut as AJ
Same face as AJ
Jawline and all
And then
allegedly he plays football exactly like
AJ, by the way. So there is another AJ
in creation, let alone when Axel gets going.
I mean, it is only going to become a...
Well, and Axel has the... He's got the flow,
right? He's got the Ohio State AJ
haircut. Yeah, and also, I mean, we've got to remember
his entire family is royalty in
Columbus, these kids. True. And they're going to have
some savage to them, and they're going to have some savage to them.
And they're going to come from a royal family.
And General Bob Carpenter's like an uncle to them.
Oh, my God.
We're talking about maybe greatest linebacker to ever play football.
Three of them coming out of the one house right there.
That kid's going to run his face through something at some point.
Oh, you imagine him in a kindergarten class, what he's going to do?
Maybe we should learn from A.J AJ's decisions, though, and say,
we know Patty the Batty
says, hey, with that face,
you can beat up
a lot of hands with that thing.
That's right.
Maybe you should get
into the fight game.
Maybe you send that thing
over to Axel right now.
Hey, Dana White did send us
a full-on,
I don't know what it is.
It's tough to explain.
It's an MMA trainer.
It's an MMA trainer.
But it has like a Peloton screen
in the center that actually walks you through the stuff. I mean, it's pretty coolma trainer and it's but it has like a like a peloton screen in the center that
actually like walks you through the stuff i mean it's pretty cool you were fucking letting it eat
out there with the high kicks yeah i got the cowboy boots out hey listen because this is a big day
yeah put the cowboy boots on because i'm fucking kicking ass today hear me giving away at least
100 million dollars of fan duelist money that feels so good yeah i i understand what robin hood
was you felt like you know what i mean just for a moment there whenever i sent back a so what
whenever they said how much money they were going to lose it's not like we're i'm stealing from the
rich giving to the poor but we're definitely stealing from the rich here oh yeah we we have
kind of quartered them into doing this and it's like all right we'll do it i was like aren't we
happy football's back aren't we number one sports book aren't we happy we should celebrate oh Aren't we number one sportsbook? Aren't we happy? We should celebrate.
Oh, I thought we were happy.
And to their credit though,
by the way,
they were like,
yeah, you're fucking right.
All right, let's do it.
$100 million out the fucking door.
No problem.
That's the least.
We need to make it $200, $300 million.
That's right.
We need to get a bunch of winners.
We need people
that have been on FanDuel
for a long time
to utilize their free bet
and make sure it's the best one
you've ever given.
Although it's week one
and it's tough to predict,
let's take every dollar
that these fucking people have
Hell yeah
Let's go to the phones
5-iron G phone line
Let's go to Slingy
Down there in Dallas
Slingy, what's going on dude?
Great name
Shout out Slingy Doe
Alright, you already know
Connor
I'm coming for you brother
Why are you
Every time
Every call back to back
I can't hear you bro
Y'all got the intro music
Playing on my end
Oh, okay, you got it
Let me turn that down for a second, pal.
What do you want to talk about, Slingy?
You already know.
Slingy, don't.
Dude, Conor's coming here talking shit about my quarterback and my dad, Cowboys.
His name ain't Dak Jones.
Keep his name out your mouth.
Oh!
What did I say?
You said Dak stinks.
You said it.
You said it.
I didn't say Dak stinks.
I said it's going to take him a couple weeks to get comfortable.
Hey, Rodgers, Tuesday, Dez caught it.
Nice.
Slingy Doe, you already know.
Big D.
I love that guy.
He may have caught it.
Yeah, I mean, Calvin Johnson also caught it, though.
That's right.
I mean, that's our entire conversation.
There's a lot of those.
We can go back on this targeting shit.
We got to talk about it.
Oh, my God.
Okay, hey, I think, and i got to call some games on thursday night and listen to the whys and the hows from the ncaa
and the rules and the refs and everything like that should intent not be considered whenever
we're deciding to ban somebody from a game when they only get in a certain amount of opportunities
to play anyways in college football and potentially live out their entire dreams and lives and if you lose one game especially with how the world has been
you're fucked you take out skulski in the middle of a game who's the he's going to be a 10-year
linebacker for clemson but he gets a national championship he gets pulled out of there this
is the biggest moment a lot of these people's lives and because their head happened to run
into somebody else's head in a game that is flying very quickly,
they're banished from the rest of the game, suspended.
And I did enjoy Reese saying, Reese Davidson and Herbie, by the way,
I thought did a good job on that game.
It's great to hear them do their thing.
And Molly McGrath absolutely crushed it as well.
But just hearing them say they don't have to leave the field anymore,
which is good, it's like, how was that ever a thing anyways?
How is that?
Skolsky had to do the walk of shame past me in the national championship game and obviously i don't
think any of us could have known that kovid was going to come through and he was going to be able
to play for another four years after that right but it's one of those things where i think that's
bullshit and you literally i mean um coach jb you know of um netflix last chance you last chance
you fame he's been on the show a couple times you will see him on the show this season as well Coach JB, you know, of Netflix. Last Chance U. Last Chance U fame.
He's been on the show a couple times.
You will see him on the show this season as well.
Okay, he's an electrifying guy.
He said the NCAAs is not caring assholes of America
because they're fucking these kids.
It's real.
You suspend one of these kids from the game or anything like that
when they only have a certain amount of opportunities,
and if they lose, it's over for them.
I think that's bullshit.
Are you really looking out for them?
No, you can say it's health and safety because we want to eliminate the helmet-to-helmet stuff. It's like, can you not just have a certain amount of opportunities, and if they lose, it's over for them. I think that's bullshit. Are you really looking out for them? No, you can say it's health and safety because we want to eliminate the helmet-to-helmet stuff.
It's like, can you not just have a little bit of intent?
Last night, we're the first one.
Running back obviously dips his head.
By the way, running back should be trying to get low man there.
Linebacker in the tackle box meets him.
He lowers his head.
And by the way, with the plane adjustment?
No.
I forget what they described it as.
When the head moves from No. I forget what they described it as. When the head moves from like, whatever,
plane? That would make sense.
When the plane gets changed
or adjusted or whatever, like how is the
defense supposed to automatically account for that when they're already
going in for a tackle and then you kick that guy
out of the game? It's like, I don't understand it.
I think there's a lot of people that are around the football world
that are fed up with it and sick of it. Because
last night it was four guys got kicked out.
In the first half.
And it's like, yo, what are we even doing here?
We're trying to get guys out of game because of football.
I understand heads up football and let's change for the future and CTE and brain damage.
We know a lot more now than we did then.
But I think intent should be brought into play.
If it's obvious that that person was trying to eliminate the other player.
And those hits do happen.
People get frustrated.
People get upset.
People make bad decisions.
I mean, there's a lot of that that has happened throughout the history of football
and currently happening in football.
But some of these college kids are getting fucked out of playing.
And in turn, their teams are getting fucked because their best players aren't able to play.
And they're running hills in the morning at 6 a.m.
They have no offseason.
Their life is being controlled by a coach.
And because of a little bit of a sight adjustment,
a plane adjustment from a running back who they're supposed to tackle,
I don't like it.
I think there's a lot of people fed up with it too.
I think something's going to have to give them.
And the thing is with a lot of these rules that we hate,
there's no consistency.
Like you'll watch a lot of games this weekend,
and one game it's targeting and one game it's not targeting.
So, like if they could find a way to be consistent with it
and maybe the intent thing does help.
Intent would add a massive lack of consistency, I think.
Because it would depend upon the referee.
And if it's a big-time player, they'll be like,
well, he wasn't intending, and the internet would be like,
he definitely, look at his eyes, he was definitely looking to do that.
So that adds it.
But I just think there should be a way of having intent be involved
and worded that it doesn't become
something that especially with the amount of gambling that's happening all these games
where it's like oh that decision was made to eliminate that player for what reason even
though there's no intent it adds another speculation in it i guess that's why they feel as if it has
to be a hard line and some people call some people don't but i'm fucking sick of watching it and then
the 10 minute makes the games a lot longer 10 The 10-minute. It's like, come on, dude.
What are we even doing here?
The frequency at which, like, now every big hit, they'll throw the flag,
they'll call targeting, and then go back and whether or not they actually call it.
But, like, it's getting called just so much more often.
And to your point about guys getting screwed over, like, without, I mean,
with how much we've seen it across the board, like, a lot of these guys are probably, like, blood, sweat, and tears,
three, four years.
Like, this is the one year they're getting the opportunity to start,
and then, boom, the first game of the season.
You make a great play, and it's like, okay,
well, you're actually going to have to sit out next week.
Because your head, okay, which is about the same height
as the person you're going against, okay,
and you two are running 20 miles an hour.
All right?
Faster than a speeding ticket should be given in a school zone.
Some school zones you are running.
And whenever they drop down to embrace contact,
probably you're going to drop down because you don't want to run your chest into somebody's head
because then you're probably going to get fucking de-bowed.
Yeah.
I just don't know.
There's no understanding, it feels like, for the players at all.
It feels like a lot of people making these rules potentially never played before.
We understand that you can't be just flying around doing helmet-to-helmet football.
Football has changed in an incredible fashion.
I think the Heads Up football program has done a good job with that.
I mean, there's always going to be some of those hits, though.
Naturally, that's going to happen.
I don't think people should be getting banned for those things.
I think that's fucked up. We're not a college football show so take this for
whatever you want we are mostly an nfl show but whenever i got into college this past weekend
because it was electrifying with the environments being back i that was just a massive like what the
fuck are we even doing how is this a part of the game like that's legit and the thing that i hate
is they call it on running plays too. If it's a running play...
This is ground and pond.
That's actually the title
of this style of play. There's going
to be some ponding when you're
grinding it out. And sometimes
there might be a little
ride down on ride down.
And if you're wearing a cowboy collar or a neck
roll, it's like automatic targeting.
I got three texts last night. Automatic targeting. Oh, you're wearing a cowboy collar or a neck roll, it's like, oh, automatic targeting. I got three texts last night, automatic targeting.
Oh, you're trying to use your head as a weapon.
Okay, we saw it.
Yeah, right here.
We know what that is.
We know what you're doing.
Yeah, you're going to be banned before you even make a play around here.
Don't even look at somebody's helmet.
You're going to be out of here.
Three text messages, NFL guys, coaches, players, defense.
Watch this play and tell me who initiated the targeting here.
And it was clearly the running back who dipped his head.
That was the first one.
Clearly the running back dipped his head, which, by the way,
you have to expect him to do that.
And then the defense, by the way, they're already down trying to –
the guy's already down trying to – it's like,
what are we doing to the game here?
Why are we trying to do this?
Why are we trying to police it this much?
It's like, maybe make it a 15-yarder.
Okay, that's cool. But kicking a guy out of a game, I just – maybe it's like maybe make it 15 yarder okay that's cool
but kicking a guy out of a game i just maybe it's like a yellow card red card thing maybe there is
like you you said earlier that people are saying maybe it's a technical foul type thing where if
you get one like hey if this happens again you're you're gonna be out of this whole thing i just
don't think the happenstance of the quick bomb should fucking ruin an entire season for an entire
team i just don't think that's okay and it's it's a little different but it's like what brady was talking
about this weekend about how the defense is basically just screwed because no matter what
they do if it's a big hit they're gonna end up getting repercussions for it even if it is like
one of these bang bang plays like the run and play last night okay since you brought up tom
brady speaking of rules he's speaking yet again on the number rule remember when this came out that players could wear any number at the corner
position or linebacker position or any position basically you're allowed to wear any number that
used to be rules defensive line 90s normally 40 50s at linebacker then in the teens or 20s at db
or 30 or 40s there's just there's always been numbers that basically go with each position.
That's how football has basically been set up forever.
That has changed, obviously, through high school,
whenever you have an incredible, talented skill player
who maybe gains some weight, gets bigger,
goes down the defensive line or linebacker,
but still wants to keep the number one that he ran 2,000 yards with
at running back, whatever he was in junior high or high school.
Now he's a little bit bigger and he's tackling a quarterback.
That one's still a little clean, though.
So now they're able to do that in the NFL.
Tom Brady came out very against this.
He was asked yet again this morning, I believe,
about the numbers thing with the Dallas Cowboys.
This is what he had to say about it.
30 minutes probably isn't that much, but anyway.
I don't want to get into it.
I've already talked and I was even about it.
Other than I think it's a stupid rule just to be,
to put it out there one more time.
Just to clear this whole thing up, it is a stupid rule, okay?
Tom Brady came out because he said that part of the game is deciphering
who's who. You see it a lot with the
offensive linemen where they're pointing out the mic.
The quarterback's pointing out maybe the pressure, the
blitz. And whenever he was, I would never
know this because my plays
were good against any defense.
I mean, I
could audible to a different side if I saw
a little heavy over here. Of course. Hey, it seems
like there's a little bit more meat over here.
Let's go this way.
I'll go ahead and give this thing an apple.
Apple, all right, or whatever the particular call was.
But he's saying, quarterbacks, this is going to make the game worse.
This is going to make the game worse.
Because the part of the entire game is dissecting and deciphering
who's doing what from what position.
He thinks that it's going to make the game worse.
He's not happy about it.
Still not happy about it. He said this the 20th time. He thinks that it's going to make the game worse. He's not happy about it, still not happy about it.
He said this is the 20th time he said this is a stupid rule.
I guess we'll have to see how this unfolds if it actually matters.
It's interesting, though, seeing somebody that is normally wearing a different –
it's all these young guys.
It's all the rookies, too.
So I often wonder how the vets feel about some of these rookies
swagging out in, like, these single-digit numbers.
And the vets weren't allowed to do it because they would have had to pay back all of the money
that was already spent on the jerseys and their numbers.
So they're basically told you can't.
Dalvin Cook was basically told you're going to have to pay $2 million
if you want to change your number.
But all these rookies come in, and they're swagging out
in their young numbers or whatever.
It's hard watching these preseason games going like,
I don't know if that guy deserves that number over that guy.
But it should be a fun year, especially if Tom Brady's pissed off
and still continuing to talk about shit he doesn't like.
Did you see the entire, I believe, Niner secondaries going 1, 2, 3, 4
as their numbers?
So maybe that makes it easier.
Well, if you see this and you're a D coordinator,
aren't you putting every single player on your defense in a weird number
that's not used to where their position is now?
And can you change number middle of the week now
because you have to pay for all the jerseys?
Yeah. A lot of number changes came yesterday since the preseason was done.
Imagine every team playing Tom Brady, though. Their entire defense changes their numbers
the week of. Jerry Jones is like, fucking change all of them. I'll pay for them.
Don't care. I don't care. 200? Fuck it. Are we beating Tom Brady
or not on opening night? By the way, opening night, this thing is treated just as hyped as the Super Bowl.
For sure.
Won't get as many viewers as the Super Bowl because the Super Bowl becomes the global sensation, obviously.
But the amount of marketing and press that we've given this Thursday night, everybody's given Thursday night.
It's been a countdown.
The fact that the Dallas Cowboys are in this game, by the way, is no coincidence.
No.
This is no coincidence.
Jerry Jones, you know, we're going to be in that opening game.
Full stadium's back.
Tom Brady back.
Ed Sheeran's playing.
Is that who he's fucking playing?
Dallas Cowboys playing.
That's bad.
Isn't it amazing, though, that, like, legit, the Cowboys are in this game for an obvious reason?
And that's because, just like Jerry said to Michael Irvin yesterday, you bring Dallas Cowboys in and save your fucking shitty-ass ratings.
That's literally what Jerry Jones said on first take yesterday, in different words, I guess.
Do you think with the number changes, I mean, I guess we could ask Rodgers about it,
but do you think other quarterbacks share that sentiment, too?
Yeah, we have to ask Aaron in, like, 15 minutes.
That's a great question to ask.
Somebody ask that question when I inevitably forget to not ask him.
Tom also last week was like,
hey, the rules are making
it easier for quarterbacks. When we
make a mistake, it's actually penalizing
the defense. Well, this rule
potentially helps the defense, and Tom's mad
at this one. So make up your mind, Tom.
Tom's allowed to be angry.
Tom's allowed to say, hey, quality
of football is going to be worse because the mega genius is playing quarterback that you all enjoy watching okay there's a rhyme
and a reason for the algorithms why we're able to look at defenses and say oh this is cover two
even though it might be cloud four look here and after uh this ball is snapped this is what's going
to be wide open on this defense that is playing chess against me.
This defense is actually playing chess against me.
Now they're changing up the pieces, is basically
what he's thinking. I assume
now, after playing in the
preseason, which Tom did, it's not as
big of a deal as he maybe thought it was potentially going to be.
But maybe it is. And maybe Aaron does
share the sentiment. He's like, yeah, sometimes when
you have to make a decision in six seconds,
it's tough to decipher, but now you just have to memorize everybody going into the game i guess it's a
little bit more pre-work on the roster as opposed to just numbers yeah so i guess i mean i don't
know i feel like uh those guys like brady's gonna perform either way you know yeah it's like i don't
think he it's i mean if he's spending any more time, like, oh, shit, these numbers are changing. I don't know. I just like the fact, though, that Tom and Aaron, in the faces of our game,
are starting to get a little bit louder with shit they don't like.
Yeah.
For a long time, far too long, I think, in the NFL, much different than other sports,
the stars have kind of stayed quiet because I don't think they want to appear to be assholes or divas,
and they already make enough money, so why would I want change anything i have my it's like government almost you know and we're big politics show today
of course we did an entire reenactment of what politics is we're still batting a thousand but
you can't expect people that have their hands in the cookie jar to change rules about the cookie
jar that are potentially going to take the cookies out of their hands which are in the cookie jar
okay that's kind of been the biggest issue i think in politics but in sports as well the never hear of the superstars really getting involved in the labor negotiations
for the nfl because the superstars are making so much money so they probably feel as if if we were
to get in here people call us assholes to begin with and also everything's kind of good so let's
not do that i like that we're at a point in society though where i think a lot of these legends oh
jeez are like you know we're still in the game.
We've made a lot of money.
We've already done everything.
Our legacies are already cemented in stone.
This is fucked up.
This shouldn't happen.
This is good for the NFL if the legends, the people that make the game, are going to get a little bit more decisive in how the game should go.
far too long. I believe there's been people making decisions that don't necessarily have the right viewpoint on the zoomed out view of the entire NFL as opposed to just getting by today and tomorrow.
So I like that Tom's coming out speaking about stuff. I like that Aaron's coming out and speaking
about stuff. This is very good for the NFL and for the players going forward. So I like that
Tom's doing this and I will congratulate and appreciate it every time he does it.
To that point, I could be wrong, but can you imagine 15 years ago
someone doing what Rodgers did in his presser
earlier this year?
That shit just would have never happened, ever.
I love it.
Yeah, you know,
takes a sip of water.
So the reason why all these people fucking stink,
that's pretty much for 35 minutes that's pretty
much what he did and on the other side of it by the way he became babyface thank you 35 minutes
became babyface yep it was like oh now we understand and normally by the way when you're
ignorant to something and by ignorant i mean not the slanderous term i mean actual definition
not knowing or understanding of a situation you normally don't like that once you become like informed on why
said person is the way they are it's like oh that's why documentaries these mic'd ups everything
you do you normally like the people on the other side because you learn a lot more about something
that you maybe just speculated about without knowing anything about yeah exactly that's life
by the way that's not just that and when you do a 35 minute presser that explains your entire side
and says this is why this, this is why this happened.
This is why this happened.
I didn't want to do that because this begins to lead to this.
I think you can understand that this might be this.
And I also expected them to act a little bit more adult.
Like everybody's like,
well,
the motherfucker's right.
Wow.
I mean,
he was jumping off his waterfalls having a good old time singing Taylor Swift,
but son of a bitch is right.
Pretty spot on.
I agree with him.
Hey Mark,
your turn.
And then they sent out fucking,ontacoonts out there.
And he just, we're the bad guys.
Everybody hates us.
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