The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 490 - Coach Us Up Chuck With Chuck Pagano, One More Day Until NFL Football, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys rejoice about being one day away from NFL football and look at the line as it continues to move in the Buccaneers direction, whether or not it's a good thing that everyone is in the same boat about being on the Bucs -8.5, how Covid could play a bigger role in the NFL this year with people testing positive the night before games or a few days before, and last night's Hard Knocks finale and why Pat is a big fan of Dak Prescott, and how it looks like he and Mike McCarthy have quickly bonded. Joining Pat and AJ Hawk for Coach Us Up Wednesday's, which will be a recurring conversation every Wednesday for the duration of the football season, was an NFL and college coach for 33 years, Pat's former Head Coach with the Indianapolis Colts, Chuck Pagano. Pat, AJ, and Chuck chat about what rookie Head Coaches are thinking going into this weekend, his thoughts on Bucs vs. Cowboys, what a guy like Tom Brady does to change an entire organization, what the worst part of the preseason is for an NFL coach, what he's been up to these days, and everything else am NFL coach might be thinking about before the first week of the NFL season (40:30-1:05:16). Later, Pat and AJ Hawk chat about who they like in the Thursday Night Football matchup, tease who their Super Bowl Predictions might be, chat about AJ and General Bob Carpenter's lunch plans from earlier today, and the first book, The Alchemist,  from the Aaron Rodgers bookclub jumping to #1 on Amazon's best sellers list (1:06:48-1:28:05). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up, everybody? It is Wednesday, September 8th. You are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0. Pat has some business he has to attend to, but we made it. Tomorrow, the NFL season starts. Today, Chuck Pagano joins the show for Coach Us Up Chuck, which will be a recurring segment every Wednesday for the rest of the football season. Plus, A.J. Hawk. We look ahead to tomorrow night's Thursday night

tilt and uh give a few predictions for the year to come it's a great show let's get right into it and tomorrow's officially NFL kickoff game day a little bit of the calm before the storm there ain't much to talk about today I'll be honest there'll be a lot of reaction obviously to what Aaron Rodgers said yesterday around the sports world. There's a lot of conversations and predictions and everything, projections and a lot of that. We will ultimately end up doing that as well. We will pick our Super Bowl teams today. Wow!

If you do recall, one year ago, A.J. Hawk said he thought the Dallas Cowboys and the Kansas City Chiefs would be in the Super Bowl. He said that with a straight face because Big Mike McCarthy was going down to Dallas and he had the utmost faith in them. They lose their franchise quarterback. A.J. looked like a stooge throughout the entire year, and we referenced it numerous times as the season went on. I did predict Tampa Bay and Kansas City,

although I wasn't the only one. A lot of people were predicting that when you look at the roster, when you look at the paper, what those two teams were expected and projected to go. So maybe this year I'll make a little something different. Maybe I'll shake it up a little bit.

Can't wait to hear what the boys think. Can't wait to hear what A.J. Hawk thinks. We'll have Chuck Pagano on today. What? Yeah, he coached at all levels of football for like 33 years before retiring last year. Damn. He was last with the Chicago Bears as defense coordinator. He sailed off into the sunset after beating, obviously, leukemia in every football team, I think.

The immense amount of stories that he has. He was my coach. I'm very thankful for it. He created Chuck Strong. I mean, a foundation that has raised, I think at this point, maybe $100 million. I don't know. That seems like a lot, but I think they've raised like $20, $40, $50 million.

I don't know. A lot of it. Jim Irsay just bet $2 million on a free throw to get to the Chuck Strong Foundation. Incredible, legendary human. He'll be joining us every single Wednesday this season for a nice Coach Us Up Chuck segment where we will ask him about situations that coaches have found themselves in, the thought of some

coaches, and he told us just the other day he's not looking to get a job with anybody anymore, so fuck it all. Yeah! Can't wait to chat with Chuck. He'll join us in the second hour. Also, your phone calls on the 5-Hour Energy phone line, 1-833-4-MAC-FE. We cannot wait to hear you. The Toxic Table is here at Ty Schmidt.

Aaron Rodgers Tuesday was awesome. Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, it's back. It feels like football season again. I am rearing to go, ready for Sunday. I am so goddamn excited. It's awesome. Just like the first couple Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays last year, a lot of people said, like, oh, this is terrible.

What are we doing? Why are we doing this? So new people that maybe didn't experience Aaron Rodgers Tuesday last year got a chance to experience it this year, and still have the thought that oh this guy's a prima donna prick or whatever so i got a lot of those tweets yesterday because there was like 40,000 people watching at one point yesterday day after labor day season hasn't even started no big deal check other people's live numbers when they go live that's awesome they're helping us out though because big deals they're signing is inevitably going to make our deal colossal. But Aaron is a legend, obviously, incredible at football.

And when he sits down and chats with us, I feel like we learn so much. Mentally, he seems to be at the same exact state he was last year, which was body feels good, he's happy, he's at ease, he enjoys Matt LaFleur, he enjoys his teammates, he enjoys the offense. And this might be a year where he's saying, fuck everybody, and I can't wait to watch this whole thing. I'm excited for Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays. You you asked an incredible question for a little bit of yeah well you know i mean i haven't talked to him in a while true i said hey listen i don't want you to throw anybody

under the bus or throw you did you said yeah i'll do the barrier so i was kind of giving him the out hey i'm not expecting you to throw anyone under the bus but a lot of us were hoping you know which by the way is my question tactic and a lot of us were hoping, you know. Which, by the way, is my question tactic. And a lot of people say I get a bit wordy, but then they listen to the show a little bit and they're like, oh, this is what he's doing. I'm giving the bullshit canned answer so they can't give it.

Right. Okay, so when I ask a question, you'll hear me do this, and I've done this my entire life to everybody, and people hate it early, but then they realize that if you stick with me, why I doing it i am explaining the answer that he could give just to get out of it when i'm asking somebody a question we know that and then i'll go into the bullshit and then i put it on them and what you see from some people that maybe have never been on the show before

they'll sit digest that whole thing and they'll say well fuck i can't just say what he just said i have to give a different answer now and normally we find that there's a little bit of a deeper answer coming from people right i think i i take a lot of pride in how we chat with people i think we get a lot of out of people aaron rogers yesterday gave us a zen life quote his mindset breaks down how he feels i mean it is unbelievable he is one of the smartest humans i've ever talked to and we started a fucking book club yeah about dispelled a huge rumor that had been going on for you know a long time now and what was like a pivotal piece and the kind of like the fracturing of the relationships that yeah it never fucking happened i am so excited for it

i think yesterday last night i was scrolling through the internet and the reaction to it, and I enjoy it. And I am somebody that does, you know, I look at my mentions. Like, I am somebody that goes through. I think you have to, by the way. If you're somebody that doesn't, how do you have any idea or pulse of what people are feeling or reacting to what you're doing, how you're doing it? Maybe a little criticism from people. Now, you can't take one tweet and be like, okay, this person's right. But if it becomes a constant, maybe it's like, all like all right maybe i gotta look in the mirror a little bit now we

don't work for a network obviously and i assume the executives in the suits tell people that for me it's just i want to listen to the people you know yesterday's reaction we sold fucking books yesterday yeah what i don't know i don't know the depth of a lot of shows we fucking moved books yesterday yeah that's what i saw on twitter people were screenshotting the alchemist uh the author put it up i think actually yeah and we're going to be releasing a shirt for the aaron rogers book club obviously that is very elementary design we placed it together as quickly as possible but all proceeds will go to a reader advocacy program slash programs of Aaron's choosing. Okay. So we are, and by we, I mean me, I am an open book about the fact that I've never opened a book. Okay. I'm not, I mean,

at this point I am kind of proud of it. I don't know how many people can make this far through college, through school, be all academic on some things without ever actually reading a book. Okay. I just always had ADD. I was always too quick. I can't do it. Who's got the time? Is there a TV show? Is there a movie? I'll do that. Now I spend my entire life reading on Twitter. Now I feel like I'm a, an above average reader if I have to, but when it comes to books, I have a tough time retaining it for whatever reason. I just, I, the movie, I can see it. I can predict that. I can remember it. I can put myself in there. Never in a book. Yesterday was really cool to fucking see just how many people out there appreciated Aaron

Pusch in reading again. How many people responded to it. How many people bought The Alchemist. My wife already has it. She was halfway done reading it, I guess. I'm like, okay, so in the house we already have this thing. I'm excited to be a part of a book club. And by that, I mean, I'm going to maybe open the first couple of pages and see if this

thing gets me hooked. Okay. Here we go. Maybe at the, I mean, I'm going to maybe open the first couple pages and see if this thing gets me hooked. Here we go. Maybe at the age of 34, I will read my first book. And if Aaron Rodgers tells me to do something, I'm going to do it. I'm not the only one.

I saw a lot of people buying this book yesterday. This is very cool. Buy the shirt at store.patmagafyshow.com or you can wait until tomorrow where 20% will be off the entire store

because it's the NFL kickoff Sunday. Now, granted, if you buy it for 20% off tomorrow and not today, you are shorting the reader advocacy programs out of 20%. Right. Something to think about. So if you're a fucking asshole reader, I mean, maybe you wait for the 20%.

Yeah. Anyways, we appreciate everybody. We appreciate everything that happened yesterday. Can't wait for the season. Get started tomorrow at Boston Connor. You have only gotten louder and louder about your faith in Mac Jones. Mac Jones is doing interviews. He's giving out great quotes.

We'll talk about him a lot today. How does it feel to know that Mac Jones does seem like a legit guy, too, not just a football player, but it seems like he's a fucking guy you can actually be like, oh, I'd like to be friends with that guy. That guy seems like a guy that is cool. Oh, this is going to be a cool guy to represent the Patriots if he doesn't suck, obviously. Yeah, if he doesn't suck, which he won't, I think we can all come to that conclusion. But, yeah, it feels like I'm going into my first NFL season again. It doesn't feel like this is year 26.

It feels like this is year one. This is a brand new team, new defense. Hightower's back. Everybody's back. It's not just Mack. It's the entire team is just like a completely new animal, new Death Star, if you will, that we haven't really seen before. And they say new teams, they take a little bit to get together. Dolphins,

they're ready to fucking do damage. That's right. Remember, this is the authority on Dolphins fan base show. That's right. Left tackle. Out. Oh, yeah. COVID. That'll be interesting. Can we pull up the COVID rules, by the way, because we actually have these written out. So this is what every fan needs

to realize, because I think this is going to happen throughout the season, maybe even more than last year. And we talked earlier in the week about this. Now that humans are out and about, we've all seen it, there's going to be happen interactions. Like, for instance, how I might have got COVID is via a delivery person, maybe a DoorDash driver, maybe somebody

that walked by, a mailman maybe. Who knows how the hell I got it. Those situations are going to happen in a much more abundant fashion because people are going to be out and about. So although last year the guys had testing every single day and they were locked down and there was no vaccine available. And I mean,

that's been a whole conversation obviously, but there is just all this. I think it's going to be maybe a bigger impact this year on players missing. We already see Zach Martin probably going to be out tomorrow night, even though Jerry Jones said, if we can produce two negative fucking tests for that guy. Our

team is officially the most valuable sports franchise on Earth. 6.9 billion dollars. The average NFL franchise is worth three and a half billion dollars. My fucking team, 6.9.

I'm not good at math, but that's damn near double, ain't it? That's 200% of what every other fucking guy could do, could do, family could do, woman could do. Whatever the case in ownership, my team's worth more than everybody. Hey, Manchester United just bought back fucking Christian Renaud? Cool. Did Leo Messi just go to PSG? Cool. Great for Paris.

Those teams can't suck my team's dick. Couldn't hold my junk. This came out via Sportico. The top 10 most valuable NFL franchises. The Dallas Cowboys, $6.92 billion. Damn. New England Patriots, $5.35 billion. Los Angeles Rams, $4.68 billion.

They spent more than that on the stadium oh yeah they spent more than that on and the projections were much less than that i mean that cronky owns like 55 teams or whatever i think he who knows giants 4.63 billion niners 4.27 billion washington football team team with no name although the same eight names that were released months ago that had the three finalists in them were re-released via the Adam Schefter podcast the other day from Tanya? Yes. Snyder.

Snyder. Owner's wife. I believe so. Smart move by the Washington football team to get Dan the fuck out of the driver's seat when it comes to PR. Yeah. Hey, you've done enough. Okay.

Sit down. You've done enough. Let's get your wife, who seems to be a very... What's that? Well, I mean, I'm guessing she knows what Dan Snyder's been doing, so I don't know if we can just... She might have read these exposés and learned a lot about what her husband's been up to

with his little football team as well, maybe. She's still with him. She's been putting up with a lot. Can you put the thing back up? $4.25 billion. It's not easy to get divorces whenever you are the owner of something that's $4.25 billion.

True. I think that is something that has happened through the past. Mrs. Bezos was able to do it. Married a science teacher, I guess. That's right. The luckiest science teacher in the goddamn planet. They had great chemistry. Lucky they had love. What are you talking about? It's not about money, dude.. That's right. The luckiest science teacher in the goddamn planet. They had great chemistry. Lucky they had love. What are you talking about?

It's not about money, dude. It's about love, dude. Sure. I'm just saying. You fucking scumbag. I'm a better person than you are. No, you're not a better person than I am. I don't want to get into politics,

but you're just saying the science teacher said it like you. Why? Because he found his love of his life and she was able to find somebody that doesn't want to get scientists to reverse aging and actually care about her and love her. Is that what you're saying? I'm saying he's lucky to find love in a $63 billion purse.

That's all I'm saying. Jeez. You have no idea what love is. No, I don't. Except I love the Patriots. Anyways, Dallas Cowboys. And the goddamn United States of America. Hell yeah.

You ain't never getting a divorce either with them. Uh-uh. I'll ride with them through 10 Dan Snyders if I have to. What I'm saying is the Dallas Cowboys are the most valuable franchise in sports. They're double the worth of the average of every other NFL team, $6.92 billion. And their best football player, they couldn't keep out of this thing. So with that being said,

COVID took out Zach Martin for the first opening game, which is going to have so many eyes on it. It's been marketed forever. The stadium's going to be filled Tom Brady's. I mean, it's massive. And their best football player, both out of Zeke's mouth and Jerry Jones' mouth is not available because of Uncle COVID.

Let's assume that's going to continue to happen. It's happening to the Dolphins. Here are the rules. Unvaccinated players who test positive are out 10 days. That's it. That's a long time depending upon when those 10 days start. That's potentially two to three games if it's a Thursday night football game as well.

I think it could time out to be three games potentially. On Thursday, yeah. Yeah. No. Could be three games, right? No. Only could be two games. Sunday, Thursday. Yeah, but isn't there always some team that comes out and bitches

about having three games? It's always like 20 days or something. I guess it's a week of Thanksgiving maybe if you went. Anyway, so unvaccinated players who test positive are out two games. Okay, let's assume it's going to be two games. Vaccinated players can return if they're symptom-free

and produce two negative tests 24 hours apart from each other. Unvaccinated players who test positive are out 10 days. Regardless, unvaccinated players who are close contacts are out for five days. Remember, this is that re-entry process thing as well. Cam, Cole Beasley. Yeah, I don't know if it was because Cam was around anybody, but I think it's the same exact process as missing a test if you are an unvaccinated player.

You will not miss time, but be subject to daily testing if you are vaccinated because that's the rules. They're coming back into that. J.C. Tretter, the head of the NFLPA, put a tweet out yesterday. He said, last year we were able to get through the season because of daily testing and all the other vaccine, blah, blah, blah. He laid out why the NFLPA is looking for daily testing again

so it can stop the spread or whatever. Obviously, that's what they're looking for. And then he also said, and we did not fucking say shit about the taunting penalty. Because the NFL came out and said, the NFLPA was actually the ones asking us about the taunting penalty. What a great narrative spin. And the NFLPA, once again, no PR, did not come out and said the NFLPA was actually the ones asking us about the taunting penalty. What a great narrative spin.

And the NFLPA, once again, no PR, did not come out and fight that immediately. So it actually started making its rounds around people. And I assume a lot of people who read that thing said, oh, the players are the ones doing the taunting. So this isn't a no fun league. This is actually the players or whatever. And J.C. Trenner, the head of the thing, said in his post about the daily testing, he wanted to make sure he got clear.

Also, we didn't do the taunting thing. This is all bullshit out there, which we have to remember with every piece of information we get, including contract negotiations, where numbers are at, what's happening. And that turns to the COVID cowboy at Tom Diggs. TJ Watt, their practice started two minutes ago. Is he on the field? Is he flying around?

Because in the middle of negotiations, he's had to hold in because you can't hold out because it's a fifty thousand dollar a day fine basically with the new cba makes it impossible for you to not go to the building he has gone to the building done individual drills but has done absolutely nothing else people are saying if a deal isn't done he might miss this weekend you guys can't with two rookies on the offensive line and your defense is going to have to win some games you can't be be missing T.J. fucking what? Ben Roethlisberger just said, hey, pay the guy whatever the hell he wants. That's the reason why I said, I'm going to pay guys.

I'm going to play football with Steelers. They can pay guys like T.J. What's going on over there in Pittsburgh? Coach Tomlin was on the first take this morning. Loved him. He said, I don't talk about numbers. That ain't what my job is. I'm just doing my thing there.

Tomlin's not going to be happy if he doesn't have TJ Watt, the guy who gets introduced last coming onto the field. The man who has been defensive player of the year conversation the last couple years. You guys have to keep TJ Watt, don't you? What's going on? Get the deal done in Pittsburgh already. Tomlin did say yesterday

that he is confident the deal is going to get done so when mike tomlin says that i believe in mike tomlin i also believe in seven because seven is my savior if seven says that the steelers need to play pay tj watt the steelers need to pay fucking tj watt okay yeah and there's the uh a lot of rumors not a lot of rumors a lot of reports going around that the Steelers do not negotiate after the season starts. It's that they won't start negotiations after the season starts. Hey, don't finish.

As long as negotiations have already started before the season. Hey, it's like the last play of the game. Doesn't matter when it's zero. Exactly. Has the play started or not. Are we doing the annexation of Puerto Rico? This is a 75-second play. Who cares?

The negotiations have already started. It doesn't matter. It'll get done. It's just all about guaranteed money at this point. They know what the average per year has to be because everyone else has already been paid. It's going to be a little bit above BOSA. It's just what's the guaranteed money going to be and how is he getting it. Plus, they should already know what the guaranteed money is, too, because BOSA's deal just got done.

So they should already know. So that's something that should— Well, as this great organization has done for years and years and years, they don't guarantee you pass year one. Oh, so this is what Aaron was saying yesterday. For a lot of things, people just do stuff because that's the way stuff has been done for a long time. He even referenced when he asked Mike McCarthy

why they were doing something in the office. Oh, they've been doing it since the 80s or whatever. And Mike McCarthy was able to change. It's kind of how businesses run. And, you know, I think there is a... I don't want to say a little bit of an awakening. Ooh. Maybe. Nah.

Yeah. That's pretty deep. But I feel like we all have much more information now about a lot of things. Yeah. Okay, we know what life could be like with a pissed off player who's very good, who could go elsewhere. Why are we going to rely on our archaic thoughts in a much different world with much different humans is what i would say back

to the steelers who say uh we all would guarantee first year it's like well we're much more fucking time now with a lot of different medicine and uh examples of that fucking player is over and tj watt is a great player and we've learned in our society now that we're in, like, hey, let's just keep the guy in the building. It's not easy to find a replacement for T.J. I mean, I just feel like sometimes you've got to get up with the times and you can't just rely on, oh, we've always done this. But growing up in Pittsburgh, Starrer's basically always been fucking good. Yeah, yeah.

So it's probably hard for them to look in the mirror and be like, oh, we need to do something completely differently, although the world is changing right in front of us in all different ways. Well, say as if he does want to leave. He's under contract this year. You can franchise him next year. You can franchise him the year after that. He's with us for the next three years, whether he likes it or not.

Hey, he's not going to do that thing. That's fine. You franchise him. By the way, whenever you introduce him last, he's not getting the fans excited. Uh-uh, not anymore. Ben's last again. This is what he's doing. That's fine. That last, he's not getting the fans excited. No, not anymore. Ben's last again. This is what he's doing. That's fine.

That's what he's going to do. He's just going to end outside linebacker. He's just going to walk out, maybe even to all of Pittsburgh. He wants to go heel as long as he's getting sacks. I don't give a fuck. No, you think he's going to get sacks if he's getting franchised that two years in a row? No way. No way.

Yeah. That's not happening. Hey, listen. I getting franchised back two years in a row? No way. No way. Yeah. That's not happening. Hey, listen, I'll lay down. Don't worry. The Watt family lays down for no one, and we're seeing that right now. You're right. I mean, that's what they're doing right now.

His brother got named captain, so that's weird. Well, we knew that was going to happen. JJ Watt's captain. No, no. Unretired goddamn number for the guy. Derek Watt is the captain of the Pittsburgh Steelers this year. Oh, for special teams? Yeah.

Let's go, dude. Okay. Hey, Derek Watt, he'll fucking the Pittsburgh Steelers this year. Oh, for special teams? Yeah. Let's go, dude. Okay. Hey, Derek Watt, he'll fucking quit too. You don't pay his brother. That's right. Hey. Let him know.

He needs to let them know maybe. And we just went through all those coronavirus protocols the NFL has. We have one as well. You must be away for a certain amount of days. No symptoms. Multiple negative tests. Ladies and gentlemen, it is great to have back in studio a man who's a survivor, a fighter, the Canadian cowboy, Bubba Gump.

Yeah! Proud of you, bud. What a run. Hey, when you're on house arrest, it's a fucking nightmare, isn't it? Well, almost probably just over a year ago, I had to go back to a country where I was locked down for a year not being able to be here. So maybe a little PTSD. Oh, whenever you're getting locked in that apartment. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never think I needed a house or wanted a big house. Nah, maybe. Yeah, if the world gets shut down again, which I don't think the humans are going to let it happen again by the way just from watching around this past weekend I don't think

it's going to happen again there's going to be some doctors maybe there's going to be some doctors maybe screaming from the mountaintops

they need to do it again I don't think and you can call us a bunch of fucking idiots I don't think the idiots of us the non-doctorates of people

I don't think they're going to go be I don't think they're going to be signing up for that again. I don't think so. Especially to the point, and I hate to reiterate this, but the house I grew up in,

if I was locked in that house with my parents for any amount of time, we would have actually killed each other. There's a lot of people that are thinking to themselves i i should not be teaching my kid fucking fourth grade okay i look at these problems i have no idea what they are i'll tell them the truth you ain't never gonna need any of this shit kid but the whole thing of the lockdown in the the the seclusion right i mean you got lonely in there. Yeah. And then once you come back out in the public,

you feel like everybody's looking at you. Like it is a weird thing to do that. Congratulations. I'll get it. Thank you. The beard looks phenomenal. You've been bashing it a lot. You need to relax.

You have an incredible beard, dude. You, I think maybe you're just staring at yourself in that apartment too much. Beard looks good. Still don't worry. There's way too much time alone with me and my brain and my beard. It never needs to happen again.

Thank you. You do not need to shave that thing. No. He had a Wilson ball too. Maybe tidy it up a little bit. We watched what happened. Kelsey watched what happened. Did you see Dustin Johnson this weekend when he shaved his beard?

Oh, my God. We don't need you on that list. Hey, the whites have a vastly different look whenever they change their facial decoration. For instance, Ty's a completely different human right now with that mustache. It looks fantastic. I hope we keep it all year. Maybe you get tired of it, though, and you change it. And when he shaves that, by the way, he's going to come in and we're going to say,

oh, shit, Ty, something happened to your face. We can't have that happen. No, I can't do it. I'd look like an absolute pinhead. No! Don't be. Dude, no. Just need to tidy it up a little bit. Yeah, you do what you absolute pinhead. No! You can't be. I can't do it. Just need to tidy it up a little bit.

Yeah, you do what you got to do. The haircut thing is a problem. I mean, I haven't got a haircut in like four weeks. This thing is getting real hot. It's flowing. Yeah, yeah. Keep it going. Keep going.

No, no, no. We got to do something with it because it just looks like my head is just fucking running away from me. No, no. Yeah, that's what it looks like. It looks like I'm always running in one direction. Shout out to Dana White for sending us that fight machine

he said he was going to send, by the way. Broke a good sweat. Nowhere near as good as the Oculus virtual reality thing, but it is nice to put hands on actual things. A lot of people were judging my technique in that video. I want to let them know I had no gloves on. There was no way I was going to punch metal. No, no, no. You know, from punch, everybody's like, yo, you're supposed to punch across.

It's like, okay okay you come fucking throw right hook with the way you saw that thing was put together with metal in the back i have no idea how deep that pad is let me get some gloves on i'll start don't need you breaking both your hands on your first run on the thing you know i mean as i was punching that thing by the way i was thinking myself i'm putting a lot of fucking faith in these pad makers yeah because you're staring at a massive metal thing that's going right into your hand. It's like a tackling sled.

It really is. It's a sled. It is. If you hit that thing wrong, you are going to break every single bone in your hand. And your leg. Oh, yeah.

Sorry, kicking that thing. I almost busted a screen. Shout out to Dave. It's a great workout. Yeah, it's incredible. Incredible. The thing's awesome. Shout out to you, Dana.

Thank you. Thank you. I need one. I had a lot of people on the internet telling me that my footwork and my form was terrible i need to use my hips see me on one of those machines that tells you how hard that thing is oh yeah catch me inside of one of those you guys catch me in a bar all right with one of those things on there and i guarantee your entire crew of people is going to

want to fight me because the way i'm going to walk over do it and i'm gonna walk out i'm gonna set the course record every single time it has literally never happened to me where I haven't walked out of one of those things with the course record. You can ask literally any human that's ever been with me. It makes no sense. It pisses people off to no end. It is not good to be in those bars. And normally, I just try to stay away from it, actually, because you know exactly what's going to happen, especially where I, you know, West Virginia, you've got some good old boys in some of those things. Oh, I bet.

And I've got the utmost respect for the good old boys of our world. But when you've got some lippers in there and some PBR flowing and a crew has kind of staked claim on that thing and they're all punching it and they celebrate, oh! And then you walk over and you dunk on their score and then walk wait dressed how i normally am dressed acting how i normally act there's a lot of problems that normally you think you're pretty fucking tough huh yeah a guy named bearded chubster in my instagram comments actually so your footwork yikes or something like that i'm like hey bearded chubster i would move your face

off of your body okay i just want to let you know. It's just like in golf. Everybody talks about my hips or whatever. Like maybe I just so happen to have the quickest hip activation that there is. You know, because these hips, by the way, explode. I punt it. Like that is literally what you do. I'm not that flexible. I feel like my shit maybe operates a little differently.

I felt really good on that machine. And I need to hear what the records are on that thing yeah you know because i'm starting to get to the point where i'm like will the oculus boxing translate and my performance and alleged drunk fights bar fights will that translate into a walk-in trained ring fight because i'm seeing some of these events and they look fucking awesome I mean, could you imagine walking to a ring like about to fight somebody like a gladiator like that? I think I'm gonna have to experience that at least one time My wife is not happy to hear this

But this is something that I got to through code after I have to experience that one where you walk out what and whether it's mixed martial arts Okay If anybody's gonna get into that at some point, or if it's boxing or whatever, because I'm okay if we're going to take a little tackle, ground, and pound kick game. Utilize those legs.

I'm okay with all of that. But I think I have come to the decision. Now, this is pre any training in real life. I have to find out whether or not I'll be surprisingly good at something privately before I go public with it and put a performance on. But I think in the fight game, the only way to to do that is what I got to go to a local place

and just maybe get my fucking ass beat. Yeah. All right. I don't have time for that. We'll put that back a couple of years. We'll put that back a couple of years. We have some breaking news here. 30 minutes into this beautiful Wednesday, September 8th, 2021. Carson Wentz officially playing for the Indianapolis Colts. Via Ian Rappaport, the Colts QB, Carson Wentz officially playing for the Indianapolis via Ian Rappaport, the Colts QB. Carson Wentz will be a full participant today in practice. Coach Frank Reich told reporters he'll be on the field in week one. An impressive recovery, to say the least,

rap sheet. Not only did he have that broken foot from high school that they had to do surgery on that projected him five to twelve weeks out, he was back in like two weeks somehow. No boot, no nothing, just walking around doing his thing. COVID situation is going to remain a situation just like with Zach Martin, just like with the tackle from the Miami Dolphins and other players that this is going to happen to.

But right now, I can state clearly Carson Wentz and Colts taking field against Seattle Seahawks here at Lucas Oil Stadium. Lucas Oil Stadium sold out. Jim Irsay actually said he's adding comfortable folding chairs so he can pack more people into that fucking oil can. We are going to go bananas this weekend. And Russell Wilson is going to be wishing that they traded him to the Chicago fucking Bears. Whenever Darius Leonard is fucking dancing on top of him.

DeForest Buckner is picking up that offensive line that Russell Wilson buried this offseason. Quitty Paye is coming off the edge. You're talking about a defense. Kenny Moe's going to be locked on. Absolutely. Carl Wentz just beat fucking a broken foot surgery synopsis and COVID all by his damn self. He's getting shots from Howie fucking Roseman in Philadelphia at him.

Howie Roseman, stooge from Philadelphia that blew up an entire team and basically has set Philadelphia Eagles fans back into time before they even won the Super Bowl, which wasn't that long ago. Howie Roseman comes out and says, we love Carson. Classic Ty Schmidt. We love Carson, okay? But we played four playoff games and we

need our backup in every single one. It's like, whoa! That's via Mike K at mike underscore a underscore k uh he loves jaylen hurts he can play and he can win and then the carson shot across the bow carson had to hear that oh yeah so you're telling me carson just broke and beat that broken you're right he might not because he's probably out there on his bobcat but i'm just saying somebody needs to relay the message to him that shots were fired from the general manager that traded you away.

Same guy that paid you a hundred and some million dollars just a couple years ago. By the way, let's go ahead and know that the Indianapolis Colts clear cover this weekend over the Seattle Seahawks. Especially 3-0 with me hitting the anvil at Boston Corner. Was talking a little recklessly earlier today. Your thoughts on why Russell fucking Wilson's coming into this thing that they're packing more seats into with me swinging that. Hopefully it's a little bit bigger this year.

Well, it's legit. I mean, the first time I did it. I thought you had that other thing. Take your ukulele. Yeah, that thing to swing. Shalali. Shalali, dude. Ukulele.

What is your deal? I don't know if you want to play Shalali before you hit the hammer. Ukulele. Ukulele what is your deal why don't you want to play before you hit the hammer ukulele ukulele ukulele, shillelay, lalay Is the thing that people be Anyways, it's a fucking shillelay, dude. Okay, have a little respect for the Irish. I know what that is. I was saying you should bring a ukulele as well

and do that before you hit the hammer. No, I do believe they are going to give me the microphone so I'm going to cut a promo. And I think we said exactly what I just said, but I believe Seahawks fans are saying to themselves, you think what, Russell Wilson is just Russell Wilson? Is that your thoughts? Look, I don't know about the Seahawks,

but I do know one thing, that T.Y. Hilton isn't going to be playing for the Colts on Sunday. And sure, you know, Carl Wentz, great. O-line, great. And who knows, actually, with the whole protocols. Jonathan Taylor, the running back room, great. But they have nobody to throw the goddamn ball to. And I respect Carson Wentz and Michael Pittman with his one touchdown,

three catches, and 20 yards last year. I respect it. Paris Campbell coming back wearing the number one. It's unbelievable. But with that being said, Russell Wilson's a damn good football player. DK Metcalf, Lockett, they got some good guys. I saw Chris Carson basically doing hip-ups with like 800 pounds

on his shoulders. Yeah, I saw Tommaso Ciampa do it too for the NXT. Sure, yeah, yeah, but that's one thing. The other one's going to be getting the ball from Russell Wilson. I just think, especially after what you said about the whole drama this offseason, they're going to let Russell do more than just cook. He's going to do a lot on Sunday and I just, unfortunately, do not see the Colts starting offseason. They're going to let Russell do more than just cook. He's going to do a lot on Sunday.

And I just, unfortunately, do not see the Colts starting off 1-0. And let's remember last year, they started with the Jaguars, and that was a layup win. And that was a seven-point spread. Yeah, Joe Dirt. Joe Dirt and the boys took it to him. Is he still on the team, by the way, that guy? Oh, yeah.

I believe he got the C on his chest this year. Joe Dirt does? I have no idea. No, yeah. I believe he got the C on his chest this year. Joe Dirt does? I have no idea. I'm a better person than you. No, no. I'm a better person than you are. And how about this?

If the Colts win, I'll wear one of these little number one McAfee jerseys on Monday. And then if the Colts lose, why don't you throw on that Mac Jones tarp for Monday? So you're taking the Seattle Seahawks for your bet for me to wear a Mac Jones? No. You're goddamn right. Patriots would have to win as well. Patriots cover, yeah. Oh. Have to win.

What is the spread in that game? Three now. I got it at two and a half, so I don't know how you want to do that. Hey, lines are moving, by the way. It seems like whatever the line is, whenever the game kicks off. The Dolphins fans are awesome, by the way, it seems like whatever the line is, whenever the game kicks off, the Dolphins fans are awesome, by the way, Gumby. I mean, we never understood how you could have been a Dolphins fan from the north left and how much you love football.

Why would you choose the furthest possible team away that doesn't have any success for a long time to be your team? And you just love them. I realized on Twitter a couple of, what was that, a few days ago, I guess, there's a lot of Dolphins fans out there. I had no idea that was the case. a lot of Dolphins fans out there. I had no idea that was the case. I hope the Dolphins are good.

Hey, I hope the Dolphins go in there with Tua, revamped offense and everything, and take it to the Patriots. But you have a little fear? No, you think they're, what do you think the team's going to be like? The thing about the Dolphins fans, they attack their own as well. Oh, you got crushed. I got crushed all year last year because of Tua and Fitzy. It seems like they're, I mean, I like the fact that they're not really a reasonable bunch. I actually appreciate that.

I wish there was more fan bases that were reasonable. For instance, like the Patriots fans. Absolutely right. They are not reasonable at all. The Dolphins ones are not at all. But, man, if you guys get smacked by the Patriots, are you automatically going to think, oh, no, we suck again? Or if you get a win, are you going to say, hey, fucking A?

Or are the Dolphins all the way back? Will there be a massive overreaction on the other side? Which there should be, by the way. I would be. I think either way, the way the offense is set up, if the Patriots stop Tua, Tua looks like shit, they have to stick with the game plan and go with it again. Like, don't change everything.

Bill, if anyone's going to stop Tua in your offense, it's offense it's bill and i mean if they trade and get rid of two and don't give them a chance could be a full rob low operation here oh you're just gonna put the nfl thing i'll be a fan of the league hell yeah let's go give me the go shield go no no the dolphins fans are gonna bury you now for saying oh gump we've sucked since 1984. Now you're going to give up or whatever. But it does feel like as the Dolphins were taking steps forward, it seemed like all hell kind of broke loose. They still got that stud defense, even though they're paying for a guy to play for the Patriots, right? He was a veteran who got deburred by Josh Allen.

That's what I was told by the Dolphins fans. Oh, yeah, sure. I wonder if off the field he was doing anything maybe more as a veteran who's won a couple Super Bowls and everything like that. That's why B-Float brought him in. But what the fuck did happen? What did happen with that situation? Have we found out?

No, it hasn't come out. But just give two of the year. You know what I mean? Like all this Deshaun Watson bullshit. Give the guy a chance. Find out in a year if he's good or not. You're in such a rush to start him last year over Fitzy. Now he's not the guy.

Like give him a year in an offense designed for him. Let's see how he does. All right, let's get to a break. Connor, what you're saying is if the Seahawks win or cover? If the Seahawks, they're up to three. So we'll just say both. Since the Carl Wentz news, he is worth half a point. It's gone to minus two and a half.

So if the Pats and Seahawks cover the spread of two and a half, both teams, then you've got to wear the Matt Jones jersey. The Pats and Seahawks cover the spread of two and a half, both teams. All right. Then you got to wear the Mac Jones jersey. Okay. And if the Colts win or cover, I'll wear a McAfee Colts jersey. Yeah, but what I've realized is the McAfee Colts jersey isn't necessarily just a Colts jersey. I've seen a lot of fans of other teams wearing the McAfee Colts jersey. I want to let them know I appreciate the hell out of them.

And the punter is the only position that I got booed going on the field at home and cheered going on the field away. Maybe he needs to wear a Carl Wentz jersey. Yeah, you got a Carl Wentz jersey back there somewhere? Somebody in the city might. I don't know, though. I don't know how we would get one of those.

We'll just tape it on. All right, so we'll change my jersey into a Carson Wentz jersey. There we go. Tape a one. Conti will get a Carl Wentz jersey. Oh, no, he's number two. Yeah, so we'll just put that. What?

He's not 11? No, no. Pittman's 11. I forgot. Michael Pittman Jr. Ever heard of him? Yeah. Fucking touchdown scorer, dude.

Have a little respect. That's right. I heard this morning on Good Morning Football. That's... They did. More touchdowns than DeHop. DeAndre Hopkins. Okay?

That's fantasy advice you can't get anywhere else. That's right. That's goddamn right. Who said that? Who's having more touchdowns than DeAndre?. DeAndre Hopkins. Okay? That's fantasy advice you can't get anywhere else. That's right. Goddamn right. Who said that? Who's having more touchdowns than DeAndre? I believe it was Kay, which we are fans of Kay, so I didn't want to necessarily. It wasn't Mike Bobinson? I don't think it was Mike Robinson, no.

Which, by the way, unbelievable. They do have a segment called Hammer Time, though. Is that right? Yeah, I think they got Feel Good Friday. What's it called? Hammer Time. Hammer Time. Time. They got a guy with. What's it called? Hammer Time. Hammer Time. Time.

They got a guy with a beard on there, pal. Yeah. God, don't fucking start with this shit again. Hey, your artificial guy survived COVID, too. That's right. That's right. I got the digital antibodies, pal. That was not actually Gumpy, though.

What? Yeah. Wait. That was not Gumpy. That was fake Gumpy. I thought that was real Gumpy. No, that was not actually Gumpy, though. What? Yeah. Wait. That was not Gumpy. No, that was fake Gumpy. I thought that was real Gumpy. No, that was deep fake Gumpy. And it's nice to know

that deep fake Gumpy did survive COVID. It's true. I was worried about that. Yeah, they got Hammer Time over here. Huh. It's a good segment.

Time! What if they do start yelling at us? Oh, that'd be awesome. That'd be awesome. That would be so cool. Yeah. We didn't create that, by the way.

No. I mean, Hammer Don. Feel good Friday. I did start swinging the hammer before everybody else. It's right there. Yeah, it was right here. It's broken. This thing's been through a lot, actually.

Yeah. Yeah, I remember when you broke that. Sad day. I think my luck actually changed, too. My luck changed that day, too. But we taped it up, and we got a shillelagh now. Yeah, don't hit that thing too hard on your desk. You'll fucking break it, too. What if we watch Good Morning Football it up, and we got a shillelagh now. Yeah, don't hit that thing too hard on your desk. You'll fucking break it in two.

What if we watch Good Morning Football, and they're like with a shillelagh? They just got like a big shillelagh out there. Well, they have the scepter. Oh, yeah, yeah. Angry Runs. So I'm potentially. No, I wouldn't say. Hey, Angry Runs, by the way, survived off of taunting, didn't it?

I mean, pretty much. Yeah. You run over five people, make it on a Kyle Brandt's Angry Runs segment, which was a beautiful segment, by the way. Love Kyle Brandt. Love Good Morning. Actually love Good Morning. Watch it every day.

This is not bullshit. But a lot of that, how are you not going to flex on the fourth guy that you run over? Uh-huh. Can't do it. And the ref's going to be like, is that fun? Take back all those yards. Take them all back, pal. We ain't doing it.

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Loves football. Sweats football. game of football. Loves football. Sweats football. Bleeds football. Sleeps football. The man has been there, done that. None of us expect him to remain retired, by the way, because of everything I just said. Peloton master, former head coach of mine, ladies and gentlemen, Coach Chuck Devon. Yeah!

What's up, dude? How you guys doing hey i kind of referenced this and for the sake of our show like uh it's a segment we even have a like a segment graphic look at this chuck we made this let's go ahead run that thing look at that wow chuck we never do that that is sweet that is sweet yeah we never do that okay like we don't fully we, we never do that. That is sweet. Yeah, we never do that. Okay? We'll probably never do that again. We'll probably never do that again. But this is a real segment.

Coach is up, Chuck. I'm so thankful for you doing it. We all know, though, that football guys, like this retirement thing, you know, are you going to go back middle of the season? Are you going to have to consult some people because you're going to start getting the itch? You're going to start getting a little bit of drive to get back in there are you fully enjoying retirement now and looking back on everything you accomplished in the football world no i'm fully enjoying enjoying retirement pat uh great times uh looking back on the career

but you know i just watch the tv look at the news twitter instagram this that and the other and everything that these guys are dealing with right now. There's so much out there. I mean, if it was just about the relationships, the thing that you're going to miss is the relationships, the competition, game day, all that stuff. But as you know, there's a bunch of other bullshit that you

got. By the way, speaking of technology bullshit, you cut out there. You cut out there. You cut out there. You cut out there. Oh, no. Oh, here we go again.

Oh, yeah. Hey, this isn't your fault. This is A.J. Hawks. We'll call you back. Hang up. We'll call you back. Sorry, Chuck. But by the way, what he just said there, like, that's why this segment's going to be awesome.

Yeah, here we go. Okay, and him being fully retired and not looking back is why this segment's going to be awesome. Yeah, here we go. Okay, and him being fully retired and not looking back is why this segment's going to be awesome, because the coaches, okay, fraternity is a really tight one because they know how much effort it is and everything. And Chuck will never bury anybody. He's a good person. But he'll at least be able to speak about the job and why and the hows

and everything like that. And whenever he says something, is he back? No, he's not. Jesus Christ. Him and Tina are everywhere. Oh, I absolutely rip shit. Hey, the other day we did a test with this. We did a test with this the other day.

And you should, his wife, this has been an entire thing. He pokes her head into the FaceTime. It's like classic couple that's been together for, I think they got married after like two weeks of knowing each other. Really? Wow. Yeah, and it's worked. That's awesome. Yeah, it's unbelievable. She is

one of the coolest humans walking this earth. I mean, she would have to be obviously a football coach. Coach is life. Especially Chuck. I thought he called her coach at one point during that inaugural FaceTime the other day. Yeah, she kind of keeps the whole thing together, but Chuck talking about the bullshit, that's the things I want to hear about from a head coach,

because nobody ever dives into it, because're you're lucky to be a coach. Right. And we all understand that. Like I was very lucky to be in the NFL. AJ was very lucky to be in the NFL. Being a coach in the NFL, a lot of people's dream. We get it. But there is stuff that they have to deal with that you would think to yourself, oh, that would suck. Oh, they get paid. I get it. They get paid. But it's not just about football. It's about everything that happens in the world, especially with this COVID thing. So I'm excited to hear what happens with the COVID conference. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us from his house with incredible internet,

A.J. Hawk was draining it just a little bit ago. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Chuck McCallum. Yeah, Chuck! Okay, Chuck, you're back. You look great. Okay, you said that if it was about the football and the relationships, it wouldn't be a problem. But as we all know, it's all the bullshit.

Let's talk about some of that right now these covid protocols how do you think this is going to get managed by the coaches and what could you possibly do to make like zach martin cowboys best player is out tomorrow because of the protocols left tackle for the dolphins big deal out tomorrow uh they are out this weekend because the protocols against patriots how would you handle that? Because you've got to treat people like men, but also, it's like, that could derail an entire season right now, Chuck. No, there's no doubt about it.

And again, I don't miss having to go in every single day and getting a Q-tip stuck up my nose into my brain. But having to navigate the waters that these head coaches are going to have to navigate, general managers, making sure your 53-man roster, your practice squad. You know, the great thing is practice squad used to be eight players. Now they're at 16 players. So you can stack, you know, your practice squad with some extra guys. You know, yeah, it's going to be a nightmare because you're never going to know. You're going to trust your players to, you know home do the right thing quarantine themselves stay safe but these

guys all got families and they got kids going to school so it's not it's not you know you know if it's when it's going to happen and so hopefully you know nobody runs into the problem the Broncos had a year ago with losing the whole quarterback room and all that BS. A lot of that was brought on by themselves, as we all know now, the rest of the story. Injuries are one thing. It's hard enough to field a team and win a game on Sundays, and now dealing with the protocols, it's crazy. Chuck, we're starting week one of the NFL right now. Chuck, so we're looking at, you know, we're starting week one of the NFL right now.

You as a coach, like what was the most frustrating thing or the you're you know, what was the most difficult to handle like on week one? Like you always say, oh, you never know what's going to happen. Craziness ensues and teams aren't really all in sync yet. What was the toughest thing for you, I think, to get your teams ready? I think just dotting the I's and crossing the T's and make sure that from a situational standpoint, Pat knows. We did a ton of mock situations through the preseason, through training camp. And you try to cover all your bases, offense, defense, special teams. But just that checklist of all those things, it's one thing, you know, making sure that your team is healthy and ready to go for week week one uh sunday thursday tomorrow whatever but um there was just a litany of things that um you know especially for a first-time head coach yeah you know sitting there and going through with your your offensive coordinator defensive

coordinator you know midge coming in and driving me crazy pat as you know i mean that's his nerve nervous nervous nelly tommy mcmahon he's out in denver now but um you know and as you know, I mean, he's nervous Nelly, Tommy McMahon. He's out in Denver now. But, you know, and then, you know, deciding the, you know, 53 is one thing, but then deciding the 46, who's going to be up. And now you get 48 on game day. You know, you get two extra players, one being an offensive lineman. So I think, you know, managing the roster and managing who is going to be up on game day is tough. Okay, so let's, the rookie head coaches, let's dive into that a little bit deeper because you got a chance to experience that.

And our team, whenever you were a rookie head coach, by the way, was ranked 32nd out of 32 NFL teams by all things. It was actually on the back of our shirt, by the way, it had all the teams and then our name was right down by our ass down here. It was a full thing because that's literally how we were viewed and the roster was viewed. And obviously we just had Andrew Luck, which I think, you know, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on how Urban and Trevor will do this thing. But as a rookie head coach, day before, let's say day before a game, night before a game, did you actually shit your pants? Were you nervous as hell because you had no idea what was going to expect?

Or is all the experience of being an assistant coach and kind of feeling how the room was did you have obviously you have hope but was there a lot of like what the hell could happen tomorrow the night before a game a lot of anxiety a lot of anxiety i didn't i didn't need a diaper um but but pretty, but pretty close. You just don't want to screw the thing up. You know, you want to give your players and your team a chance in every situation to go out and play well. And just, you don't want to screw that thing up. So, you know, having things organized, having things settled as far as, you know, just replay. settled as far as, you know, just replay and making sure that you got somebody in the box that can manage the game, help you manage the game from a down and distance, timeout situation,

replay situation. Who's that guy going to be? That guy has to know those rules inside and out, all those things. So yeah, these first year head coaches, you know, there's a bunch of things that's going through their mind right now. They're going to go over their game plans one last time. Offense, defense, special teams, their checklist, the situational stuff, the replay stuff. There's a ton of stuff. But I will say at the end of the day, all these guys are playing with house money right now, too. So let it rip.

Have fun. Go out there. Get your team ready to go. You know, snot bubbles coming out the nose. Go out and have fun, and let those guys. Make your plans simple so that those guys can go play fast and have fun and go out and compete. Again, you're playing with house money. Let it rip.

Yeah, nobody's expecting any of these rookie head coaches to fucking beat Bill Belichick on game one. That is something i never even really thought about sorry about that go ahead aj oh chuck so we were just talking about the ten bay bucks and how they are absolutely set up for success to be better than they were last year like is it just people that are bucks fans are a lot of people in the studio just think that they're just going to roll through their their regular season and win the super bowl again again? How possible do you think that is for them? We didn't give our predictions on the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know, 22 starters back, Tom Brady, it's easy to say,

yeah, you're going to roll right through the NFC, make it to the conference championship game, get to the Super Bowl, but you've got a huge bullseye on your chest now. a huge bullseye on your chest now you know and um you know expect expectations can can do a lot of things to a lot of people now i don't expect we still together i don't expect this group especially you know bringing tom brady down there that's a whole corporation in and of itself so everybody's level of preparation play everything goes from like here to here, you know, out the roof. And so Bruce will do a great job managing all that stuff. As we know, the coaching staff down there is experienced. They got, you know, great guys calling the plays

on offense and defense and special teams. And those guys know their players. The players know the coaches. They've been through this drill. So i think once you get out there um and the ball you roll out the ball and you kick that thing off and everything the dust settles i think this group uh definitely has a chance to repeat hey chuck listen to this there was teams that weren't interested in tom brady coming to their building when he became a free agency that that aren't set it like their quarterback position allegedly and i said to what you said, you get Tom Brady in the building, accountability is high for everything.

Athletic trainers, chefs, the bus drivers, by the way, equipment managers, you name it. Everybody doesn't want to be the reason why they don't win. I couldn't believe that some teams were like, eh, he's too old out there. That is crazy to me, Chuck. You need a guy. I mean, if you get

a guy, you hang on to your guy forever. Aaron Rodgers, who comes on on Tuesday, you gotta hang up on him. The face that he just got caught on. I was gonna talk to him about Aaron, you know, and if he listened to Aaron Rodgers' Tuesday talk yesterday and how LeFleur has always been the ally

in this thing. Like, I'm excited to hear Chuck's thoughts on, like, Matt LaFleur has always been the ally in this thing. Like, I'm excited to hear Chuck's thoughts on, like, Matt LaFleur being the ally here and maybe even being a massive part of that whole thing sticking together for a long time at this point. That's a lot of pressure on that dog. Absolutely. And he kind of, I mean, it was probably tongue-in-cheek, but he said, you know, like, that was one of the reasons why he didn't want to go back to Chicago.

It's like, hey, I'm sick and tired of having to prepare for Rodgers to come in and just rip my guts out. I mean, you know, so, yeah, it would be very interesting to see his take on their relationship. AJ, why did you put your router in Chuck's house? Good God. Where does Chuck live? He's got houses all over.

He's fucking Chuck Pagano, man. He's coaching Miami. He's coaching Boise. He's coaching Montana, I think. Baltimore, Indy. UCLA. I think he potentially, you know. Has he coached at UCLA?

I'm pretty sure. I don't know. Ladies and gentlemen, back with us with the incredible internet, ladies and gentlemen, Chuck LaVarne. Yeah! Hey, we'll power through. We'll send you a router. Hey, so full disclosure.

I got three bars, full bars, everything. So like you, AJ, I know in the attic, you're up top in the castle there in Ohio. We definitely got to get somebody over to whatever building you're in, downtown Indy. I got bars. I got everything. But AJ, so I'm living in Boise, Idaho now. My first full-time coaching job was here in 1987. I met my wife, Tina.

We started dating in 88, got married in 89, and the rest is history. So I got to Boise, Idaho. We dated two months. I left town. She came to East Carolina for a spring break, put her on a plane, called her over the phone the next day, asked her to marry me. She said, thankfully, yes. Dad was a little skeptical.

Two months and then you leave town. He's like, I called from a pay phone. I was recruiting in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. He's like, you got to be shitting me. You kids don't even know each other. Boom, North Carolina. He's like, you've got to be shitting me. You kids don't even know each other. Boom, hang up. I'm happy it happened because you two are quite a tag team, a powerful tag team. And by the way, the coach's life, coach's wife,

coach's family is maybe one of the most difficult positions on earth with the amount of hours and dedication and everything like that. The fact that you two, and we got a chance to test it out in the, you know, the rehearsal call, love is still in the air. It's an inspiration, man. It's a very, it's inspiring. So I appreciate you both. And I'm happy the dad didn't, you know, lock Tina Don up there and say, no, you ain't going to no fucking bum fuck town in North Carolina with some Italian coach. All right. That ain't happening.

Chuck, let's get back to this, though. Whenever you have a guy and what you said about Tom Brady and how everybody's kind of building, you have a lot of friends in that building. A lot. As do I. And everything that we thought was right there. When you have a guy, you've got to keep him. And we talked to you about Aaron Rodgers while the entire Aaron Rodgers situation was happening.

But now we know even more. Aaron and Matt LaFleur are, I think, like best friends, almost to the point where I think LaFleur is a massive piece of why that he came back and everything happened there. Is that a pressure you feel? Do you think LaFleur is being told by Mark Murphy and Goot, like, hey, we need you to save our asses here? Or is that just something that's kind of naturally understood, you think,

as a head coach and being the direct correspondent between front office and team? Is that a real pressure you have to kind of make everybody happy? Tomlin has to deal with TJ Watts' contract right now. I mean, that is some shit you have to navigate, right? No, you're in charge of all that stuff. And Matt's the offensive caller and the play caller as well. And so, you know, him being the first one out there who wants to lose aaron rogers as their quarterback are you kidding me damn right he was the first one out there with you know bourbon and whiskey and scotch and toe

and probably an opus couple you know bottles of opus one you know it wasn't cheap wine yeah no way no for aaron's palate can't have that cheap shit no two buck chuck but having that guy it's very very important and so the head coach is always the guy that you know the whole building the owner the gm everybody is looking to the head coach okay fix this problem go make this thing right we can't lose this guy okay we might have done this this and this uh you know you may have come into my office a few times pat and we had to you know get things calmed down you know i'm on my hands and knees please don't go do what you're fixing to do in the long run you know remember that conversation right yeah and some people are really lucky that i didn't by the way they're really lucky with the conversation oh my god remember we said hey just put the face on the ball. That's what you're kicking today, right?

Okay, let's go to work. So I appreciate you taking the high road there. But anyway, I mean, Tom Brady coming in the building. I mean, Peyton Manning, you were with the sheriff. So you know firsthand exactly what that's like. And you're right. You don't want to be that guy. Don't be that guy. You don't want to let him down. You don't want to be that guy. Don't be that guy.

You don't want to let him down. You don't want to let anybody down. But that guy, I mean, it's one thing. You drop a ball in practice and you don't know the plays and how to get lined up and you're running the wrong routes. You're out. Give me a new wide receiver in there. You saw it. And they don't mess around. So from an accountability standpoint standpoint part of being a great leader is being being able to hold your peers accountable and daily you know day after day after day and that's not easy and a lot of people are scared of that. Go ahead Connor. Yeah coach I was wondering Joe Thomas once said when he was with the Browns every single year he would say you know this is the year we're going 16-0 very confident as a, would you have that same mindset every single year, or would you sometimes kind of look at the schedule and the team

and kind of know, yeah, we're probably not going to be perfect this season? Great question. I think every head coach goes in. I'm an eternal optimist. Pat will tell you that. You're never going to go in and say, hey, guys, you know what? If we go 500 this year, I mean, it's going to be a great season. You know, right then and there,

probably be the last time you address the team in the team room. Probably be packing your shit the next day. But, no, everybody, every head coach walks in. They got the trophy. They open up the suitcase. They got the white gloves on. They're showing the trophy. Everybody starts that way. Now, you guys know better than I know, all the pundits know, okay,

who really has that opportunity. So you're going to tell that, you're going to sell that. You know, Pat will tell you, the only reason I got that job in India is because the sheriff, Peyton, didn't play the year before, you know, and you had a bunch of quarterbacks on there that, you know, we all know good guys and all that, but you're 2-14 at the end of the day. And that's why, you know, Jim Caldwell's a hell of a football coach and took that team to a Super Bowl, and he's out. You know, so that's the only reason.

That whole thing was blown up. And that first team meeting we had, Pat, there wasn't very many people in there. I think it was like 20 people in the entire team meeting room. Legit. Because that was after the offseason where I was getting texts and calls from my friends. They're like, don't answer your phone. They're cutting and firing everybody.

They fired fucking Peyton Manning. What? Yeah, they're cutting Peyton Manning. Okay, all right, good news. There was next to nobody. And this is Chuck, by the way. Okay, so now thinking back from your standpoint this is Chuck's first team meeting as a head coach you know in the NFL work working all these years to

get this moment you didn't get a chance to have a full house that's unbelievable I didn't even think about you talking to that little just like skeleton crowd that was in it you crushed it though by the way you fucking came in and crushed it I want to let you know that well I appreciate it you know what there's a bunch of guys in that room, including yourself, that you just don't happen by happenstance, you know, end up in a, you know, NFL locker room on an NFL roster. So there was a bunch of guys in there that now had the opportunity to fill in for Peyton.

Well, he was going to replace Peyton, but, well, Andrew Luck. for Payton. Well, he was going to replace Payton, but well, Andrew Luck. So that was very lucky, so to speak, that that lined up. But Gary Brackett, Dallas Clark, Jeff Saturday, I mean, all those guys. But we talked about, hey, what I said, what about, yeah, what about the opportunity that you now have, you know, to go out there go ball out and and win yourself a job and show everybody in the world yeah i've been playing behind this guy but i've done what i'm supposed to do i prepared for this moment now i'm gonna go let i'm gonna go take advantage of it i do love that every meeting okay sometimes it would get to the point where we're like if chuck comes in here with any of this positive bullshit we are going to slap him in the head. And he would come. It was a terrible

game. I mean, just absolutely terrible game. And Chuck would address it. He would address the terrible. We'd have the plays, you know, do the whole thing. And then by the end of that meeting, he had everybody in there believing like, oh, we're never going to play like that again. That is a massive part of being a coach, by the way, like the consummate motivator.

That's why last year when Anthony Lynn told the Chargers, like, it's probably not going to be it for it for us this year boys and they still had a chance to make it in the playoffs I was like well I just like you said I don't want that guy speaking to my team ever in there go ahead Ty as we continue to regain uh service with Chuck coach Pat has told us a bunch of stories about you know your locker room speeches or little quips that you've had and by all accounts you're a great order when you look look up at a guy like Nick Sirianni, he sounds like a doofus almost every time he talks to the media. Anytime in your first year, did you think after addressing the team

or talking to the media, like, oh, shit, these guys are going to think I'm a complete moron? Is that something you really had to work on as the season went on? And do you think it matters? Or as long as you win, like, you know, all that kind of stuff falls by the wayside. Yeah, great. Another great question. I think you always worry about, I don't know, poor connection again.

No, you're good. You're good. We can hear you. We can hear you. Maybe it's Idaho. Yeah, I think. Oh, Utah. Did I lose you guys again? No, you're good. You're good. We can hear you. We can hear you. Maybe it's Idaho. Yeah, I think, oh, Utah. Did I lose you guys again? No, you're good. Can you hear us? That's over. That was a great question though. Thank you. Yeah. Because. That was. Yeah,

it was a great question. He actually said it was a great question. Pretty good little run there though without breaking up. Yeah. I love Chuck Pagano. Yeah. And what he was referring to is I was going to is I was gonna explain a situation that had happened behind closed doors to the entire media yeah I was gonna do it you know I was I was like what you said yeah absolutely calling back but I was gonna do that and I was like Chuck I'm fucking sick I'm not this is bullshit this is amateur hour this is not how we fucking do things around here you have no idea the repercussions if you do that. I said, no, fuck this, dude.

This is unbelievable. You know. And Chuck was like, I do know. I do know. Okay, listen. But just think of the, think of everything that could happen. It was amazing. It was coaching, by the way.

That is actual coaching, you know, whenever I was in the middle of that thing. And I think that's why everybody loves Chuck. Chuck, whenever you're speaking to the public or speaking to the team early, did you have any moments where you're like, oh, these people are going to think I'm an absolute idiot? Because like Sirianni botched his open press conference, which has then led to Ty's harshly judgment of it. But did that ever happen for you? And is that something you had to actively think about or you just went out there and shot from the hip? But did that ever happen for you?

And is that something you had to actively think about or you just went out there and shot from the hip? No, I think you've got to be yourself and be true to who you are. But you certainly don't want to go, you know, screw things up and be a douchebag, you know, and every time you go on there, you know, you guys do a segment and you get done with a segment and it's like you're looking for some affirmation. Okay, how'd I do? So I'm walking out of media press conferences and talking to avis and and and conti and hey how do you think it went how do you think i answered this how do you think i answered that and and and a lot of times you know we worry too much about the media and we think they're all

and they're not you know they're they're really not and i always said you know what you you know write about me what you say about me is really none of my business so you got to go up there you got to be yourself but you don't want to throw up all over yourself either you know and you're always worried about the message because the message you know AJ knows that you know

being in the locker room and listening to those head coaches that you played for you're always worried about the message you're always worried about coming up with something different. And a lot of times you don't need something different. You know, you change it up here and there, but just be true to yourself and speak from the damn gut and speak from the heart and don't be a douchebag. Yeah. Authenticity is a big deal, especially in the NFL locker room. The NFL locker room can sense bullshit immediately coming out of somebody's mouth.

And I think because you were so raw with us is why we all loved you so much. You're always a great orator, by the way. And I like the fact you just took a shot at the media. We have to take a break one minute from now. The first Coach Us Up Chuck segment just wrapped. Aside from a couple tech issues on our end allegedly Idaho aside from that though this was incredible I can't wait for next Wednesday

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Is it a coat upper? It's like a nice fall day. Is it like that in India? It feels awesome outside. It does. It's starting to get to that point where you wake up in the morning and you just do a football. It's a little brisk. You don't sweat automatically. I've actually worn jeans

the last two days. It's felt good to get back out there. Also, cowboy boots. Oh, yeah. How about it? Is that what you had on yesterday when you kicked that thing? I had on my Cayman. Black ones.

I had on my Cayman. Cayman Crocs. Cayman Crocs. Is this a conscious decision or is this subconscious? What's that? That I'm a COVID cowboy now? Yes. Well, also, I went through my closet a couple times during the COVID cave thing.

And I just saw him staring at me and I was like, I remember what cowboy willie johnson told me about these boots are a good pair of boots they don't deserve to just be collecting dust and also i'm like four inches taller when i wear these things might as well and when i walk you know like it is a it's like a present like you hear me coming you know what i mean so maybe i become a cowboy boot guy i am not the kind of a cowboy, though. There's only one particular kind of a cowboy. There's a Canadian cowboy down here. But, yeah, I love the boots, AJ.

This is not what we saw you, though, just like an hour ago. Yeah. You had something else on. You had a full suit on with a Jim Trestle sweater vest on. Yeah. A whole Buckeye suit. Yeah, he did. With a little thing.

Ohio State pin. Yeah, he did. On there. Go OSU. And then an OHIO pin on the other side uh there was no american flag i guess he's not running for president but the was he at one of those events he said he never goes to bingo that was exactly what it was how was the event dude how did we shake hands i didn't know there was like an early afternoon thing that you could potentially go to in these high society

world that you live in aj hawk i was the handshaking so it was not an event and obviously letting you know i was going to this thing before the show was a mistake i apologize now uh just because i was going with general bob carpenter bobby and i met a couple guys for uh lunch at a place because it was like an auction item at one of our old coaches charity event so we So we went and had some lunch and then just came back here. What did you guys eat? Did you guys have a little pizza or was it like steak and shrimp cocktail? So, okay, I do have to tell you about Bob. So I didn't ask him if this is okay to tell it, but we sat down at 11.

I mean, he told a story about MCDC from 45 years ago. We sat down to eat lunch at 11, and we're sitting down. They bring like a drink menu, and Bob's looking at it, and he goes, Ooh, no, it's too early for that. He goes, I'll just have an old-fashioned. What was it? That's what I said. No one else said it.

I was like, so what did you turn down, Bob? An old-fashioned is at 11 o'clock. What's too early for this? I guess maybe he was going to rail a couple shots of tequila. I don't know. for this so like i guess maybe he's gonna rail a couple shots tequila i don't know i love though that you know for me when i'm around general bob carpenter i'm just listening observing having a good time but if i was to be around him ever again i would view him the same way you do every word that's coming out of his mouth i want to know how we got to this point so as soon as that guy said

oh it's too early for that i'll take take an old-fashioned. Everybody else is like, oh, okay. Old-fashioned is good. And you immediately before any words came out of his mouth, you were excited to hear how his brain was going. Is that an accurate statement? Yes. You nailed it. Spot on. Yeah. I mean, that guy, what an electric factory. I mean,

what a maniac. Absolute maniac. But what a human. I can't believe you guys are all in the same linebacker room let's talk about the NFL kicking off tomorrow AJ and congrats on going to a Horty Torty event before 1pm

Eastern Daylight Time that's un-fucking-believable well done the level of greatness you must achieve to get invited to the Daytime Yuppie Fest up there

oh my god you don't the Daytime ones cause you actually like see you can't just leave to go to sleep you gotta like see and hang.

I mean, that's unbelievable. But tomorrow, Tampa Bay Buccaneers are now minus eight and a half against the Dallas Cowboys. Last episode of Hard Knocks was on last night. Seems like Mike McCarthy and Dak love each other, by the way. From the first episode of Hard Knocks, I'm just busting your fucking balls, dude. Mike McCarthy to Dak. To this last episode, and I didn't watch a couple in the middle. Nice talk.

I tried. I didn't watch. The big thing I noticed last night was the relationship between Dak and Mike. It felt like they were, like Dak, I think, finally maybe understood what a yinzer is. Like, oh, I can tell this guy to go fuck himself. The relationship that I can have with Big Mike is much probably much different than it was with Jason Garrett I would just assume at this particular point I think that's a big deal

for the success of the Dallas Cowboys going forward I think the Cowboys will obviously be much better than they were last year when they lost out on Dak Prescott but I still do not think the point and a half the point change from yesterday is telling me not to just completely hammer the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Tom's big debut in front of the Tampa Bay Buccaneer fans. Am I wrong in thinking that? And by the way, I'm not the only one. It feels like it is a full wagon in this room that is feeling that way. Are we wrong in thinking that, AJ?

You did predict the Cowboys would go to the Super Bowl last year. I don't think you're wrong in predicting it because I think there's so much's so much up in the air for the dallas cowboys like what how is that gonna look how's the o-line going to be like i don't know what is the defense going to be improved with uh with dan quinn there so but eight and a half like you don't see lines this big do you very often that's the biggest of the weekend by far and it'll probably be the biggest for the first couple weeks and what i just said was probably complete bullshit because I did not look at the schedule for week two. No, but you're right. But it's probably –

For week one, you're right. Eight and a half is very large. I mean, eight and a half is a very large spread. But I think it's because even if their defense was a known good defense, okay, that offense is going to score. Like, they are going to go. And without Zach Martin, which Zeke and Jerry have come out and said, our best player.

Hey, that's our best fucking guy. Not just offensive lineman, that's our best guy. I think that's a big deal. Just like I thought it was a big deal when Yonda left Baltimore. And it turned out to be. It was. If you have a staple offensive lineman.

Now, Lael Collins and Tyron Smith are back. And I understand that's awesome. But I think that's a much bigger deal than anybody. Right in the middle of the pocket with that coming back, no clue. I just feel like there's no line that they can get to that I'm going to be like, nah, I'm not hammering a buck. Gronkowski, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, Leonard Fournette, Ronald Jones, Cam Brate.

I mean. Giovanni Bernard. They somehow got him. Scotty Miller. And by the way, Tom fucking Brady. Yeah. And then on the defensive side, Indomitian Sioux, Vida Veya, Jason Pierre-Paul, an entire secondary that was young is now older and has won a Super Bowl.

It just, with Todd Bowles just getting an extension and another year in that system, it just feels like, ah, and then Devin White. Yeah, David. Yeah, yeah. It just feels like, LeVon, it feels like that they can make that thing fucking 12, 13, and I would not even. Nope.

I honestly believe it's going to be a blow-up, but it's the NFL, and that never happens. So I feel like we're going to sound stupid on Friday whenever we're reacting to the Thursday game. But just nothing in me says Tampa's not going to just absolutely dominate here. Probably, by the way, not just Cowboys. That could have been a lot of teams put in that place. It just so happens to be the Cowboys.

You know, AJ? Well, yeah, Tampa should absolutely dominate. They should. But I guess the only question I would have, if you see Dallas finding a way or a chance to scratch their way into it, like, let's say Tampa comes out, you know, first game of the year. They just have a slow start. They stumble out of the gates,

as they like to say on TV. Which can happen. Yes, it does happen. Maybe an early turnover is bad. Maybe a bad special team's turnover. Something like that happens. Is Dallas good enough to capitalize on that? Because you know the Bucs eventually are going to turn it around. They may play bad for two and a half quarters.

They can turn on the juice and put 21 on the board quick. Dallas is a blockbuster as well. I mean, they are star-studded on the offensive side. Zeke looks like he's in the best shape he's ever looked. Zeke's a hell of a ball player. They've got Amari Cooper out there. CeeDee Lamb is running routes. I mean, Dak Prescott is an absolute stud.

Mike McCarthy has had a lot of success in the past with his offenses and adapting and everything like that. So I don't think that we should be viewing this as a we don't think the Cowboys can be good. I just think with the way Tom Brady is, who's a naturally emotional player, he is. You saw him. We're watching the highlight of the Super Bowl here where it wasn't ever close. No. I think in the moment we were maybe while we're watching the Super Bowl, like, oh, it wasn't ever close. No. I think in the moment, we were maybe, while we're watching the Super Bowl, like, oh, it feels like maybe Kansas City can get back in this,

strictly because we wanted to live bet, I think, Kansas City and maybe take some money because it was the last football game of the year. But that game, score-wise, was never close. You'll look down at the score of that game. I'm going to do a call. I'll come back, and the lead is spread even more. And I remember watching that Super Bowl thinking that maybe the Chiefs would get back into it because there's a couple plays I think where the drop passes maybe was touchdown but the score is nowhere near close

and they said they were only going to get better Tom Brady's in Tyron Matthews face at certain different times in the middle of that game and who knows what he said they had their moment they're past it now I think everybody appreciates Tyron Matthew and Tom for that exact reason, by the way. So they're past it. But his first time in front of Tampa, you know, like I think that also means something. And I think him saying on that stream, I would give up two Super Bowls to have that undefeated season back. Like, I just think like there's so much reasoning behind. I believe that they're not going to stumble out of the gates, even though it seems like some team does every year. And we're like, what's going on with this team?

And the Patriots and Tom have done that in the past. So I just, hey, I guess that's why I was gambling, baby. But I'm fucking shillelagh-ing the shit out of the goddamn box tomorrow, no matter what it is. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, obviously, Dak is a stud, but there's got to be something with this being his first game back, right? Like, don't you think?

I mean, with how horrific that injury was, like it's going to take him a couple weeks to be. And he sat out a lot in training camp. Right. So, but I guess the same pitch, though, if I was as passionate about the Cowboys as I am about the Bucs, would say Dak coming back. I guess that could also be a positive.

Chip on his shoulder, like he wants to prove everybody that he deserves that contract, that he is the guy. So yeah, you could say he's more motivated than ever. Yeah, so I guess there's a good pitch there. And Jerry Jones said this is Dave versus Goliath though. So whenever I hear Jerry Jones, who is always selling his team being great, even when they are

obviously not going, man, this is going to be a problem. Yeah. You know, like I think that is – there's a buzzsaw happening in Tampa. Yeah. Tampa's offense is great. Like I think they have weapons all over the place.

I think it's going to be great. Their defense, though, was potentially the worst in the NFL last year. Yeah, they bring in Dan Quinn, but Tom's seen Dan Quinn's cover three a lot throughout the years. Yeah, I think he knows exactly who is potentially going to be opening. By the way, it might be our fifth option. Who's that? Scotty fucking Miller. Yeah.

The thought that that stadium is going to be so loud should be a real one, too. Tampa Bay Lightning fans, loudest arena in the NHL, right? That's what they say that place was?

Oh, yeah. Loudest place in the Energy Center, I think is what it's called. Who the fuck knows? I was there, it was beautiful. But they said it was a very... Amelie. Who?

Is it Amelie? Amelie Arena? Maybe, yeah. Shout out to Amelie, by the way. Shout out. Shout out to Amelie. Is it the Amelie Center? Or, who knows?

One place was a center. Let's get to the bottom of this. Come on. Well, I was caught in one of those promos, and I called the place the wrong name. So, I mean, you lose everybody. It's the Omley. It's the Omley. Whatever the case. Oh, Tampa

was where I stayed every night in a hotel room. That's right. That is right. That was a wild night. Yeah. Anyway, so their fans, that particular group of people down there in Tampa Bay, are a rowdy bunch.

They are a loud bunch. They are a great fan base of people bunch. And now they have reason, yet again like they did way back in the day, to be like mass holes. They have reasons to lose their minds. I think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers fans that we didn't really get a chance to see

last year at all, Super Bowl was split between what? Obviously cardboard. Remember, there was a time in our history where they were telling us how many cardboard cutouts would be in stadiums. That's right. Maybe 40,000 cardboard cutouts. It could be you. It could be you for 10,000. There'll be

12,000 Tampa fans and fans, and then there'll be 10,000 first responders or whatever. So I don't think the Buccaneers fans, just like Bill's Mafia, by the way, with what they could potentially do up in Buffalo, I don't think Tampa Bay Buccaneers fans have gotten to lose their mind. With that atmosphere, how it's going to be,

once things potentially start rolling, if it goes another way, I mean, this thing could get ugly. That's why i think i'm just so much like i'll bet the eight and a half nine and a half whatever the fuck they want to make it well yeah i i would imagine if you're the cowboys think if you fall behind early like the place is going to be on fire pregame we know that and then once it starts if tampa can like say let's say tampa takes the ball and tom just marches down the field like not a and Tom just marches down the field. Like not a big play, just marches down the field

and they put seven up like Dallas isn't even there. Then I guess we're going to really see what Dallas is because, man, it's an uphill battle. Yeah. That place will be so loud. So loud. Just because like, oh, my God, this is what it's going to be like for the foreseeable future.

And you have some guys too that are playing on your offense that have not played with really crowd noise yet in a game. Yeah, a couple young guys, which maybe that should be talked about both sides. Now, a lot of guys playing in the NFL come from college atmospheres that are probably louder than most NFL stadiums, to be honest. I mean, that's something. But it is different. Communication is going to be much different for some players and some teams

obviously everything's different than last year so it is a first time in there just the thought of that Tom run though that first I mean immediately the let's fucking go thing

it's going to be with cannons actually firing off raising a banner the whole thing teams have lost absolutely teams have lost Brady Brady. Teams have lost before.

Brady, the Eagles, I think, they got booed out of their stadium on banner night. Uh-huh. Yeah, they got bad halftime. They were getting booed into the locker room at banner night. This is a much different animal, though, I think. Just honestly. This is like taking the Cowboys would be like taking Miami against Alabama. Oh, shit.

We forgot. Five minutes into this game, like, oh, shit. We forgot. Five minutes into this game, like, oh, shit, I forgot. That tweet that Connor put out, like, hey, there is literally 55 NFL guys on that one-team sideline right there. And just because we didn't know the name of the goddamn quarterback, we thought something was going to be different, and Miami was getting hyped as maybe they're going to top Clemson for the ACC, which maybe.

Who knows? I mean, who knows? And that whole thing. But Alabama, that same situation is potentially set up. There is the recipe. The ingredients for the recipe for the regret bet is there tomorrow night. Because both ways, by the way. Of course it's going to be close.

It's NFL. It's an opening game. They're not going to let this thing get a blowout. You've got to go back to it. I fucking hate gambling, dude. With what Clyde said. I mean, Tom Brady called him the day after they won the Super Bowl already talking about what they need to do for next season.

It just feels like the preparation, everything. There's no way you can, you know, warrant betting on Dallas plus 8.5. Unless you're a Dallas. Unless you're a Capitals. Unless you're a diehard. But does it feel too good, though? Does it feel like they have too much going for them? You're almost nervous for them because it's set up.

Of course, they're going to cakewalk everybody. Yes, by the way. That is one. Just the fact that we are everybody. It makes me nervous. Yes. It makes me nervous for them when I hear everything laid out. Of course we're winning it all this year.

I'm like, all right, it's got a long season, bud. But we have to acknowledge that there are times when the entire wagon is going in the same direction and it wins and nobody even talks about it because it was an obvious win. The only time it ever gets talked about is whenever the entire wagon is on something and then it loses. It's always the classic, like, you see it with the sports predictions, the pundit pre-show where everybody does that. That gets in there. You only really hear about it whenever it loses. there you only really hear about it whenever it loses and we are setting ourselves up to be run back on a dallas cowboys video about how everybody thought we were gonna lose it's gonna come to us like you are irresponsible with your cash if you bet on the fucking dallas cowboys to win this game

like they will actually piece that part right there and put in there but it's real i don't know how we don't do it. You let your money die with Tom Brady in the box. I mean, I can put my head down at night knowing if the Cowboys surprise the Bucs, fucking good on them. But I can't live with myself betting on Dallas. Hey, and by the way, it doesn't even have to be your money with FanDuel's free bet. Bingo.

Everybody on earth getting a free bet that's available to utilize mobile sports betting in their state legally. And if you don't have mobile sports betting in your sport legally, FanDuel said, I guess we can give everybody else the free stuff. Oh, Daily Fantasy free entry into the $4 million total prize pool, $1 million top prize happening tomorrow night on FanDuel. I mean, the boys have already entered their teams. I mean, there's a projected over $100 million loss for FanDuel this first week with free bets for everybody that is 18-plus in a legalized state

and free daily fantasy entry into a million-dollar top prize, $4 million total pool. This is a bad business decision by FanDuel. We have to take advantage of it. And what you were saying is maybe you don't even lose your own money. Maybe this is FanDuel's money that you potentially put on Tom Brady. Or I've seen a lot of parlays where people are starting to stack some stuff together where that free bet that maybe was $20, $25, $150,

depending upon what the sliding rate is for how much you are better or comfortable with your level of betting, you put that in for a parlay. There's people that have like a $7,000 parlay coming out of this thing. It was a free bet from Fandle. Did they take into account all these parlays that could hit when they projected a $100 million loss? I don't think so. Let's get this thing to $200, $300 million loss,

$100 million at least, AJ Hawk. I guess. I mean, is that their goal? They want to lose over $100 million? No, they do not want to at all. Nope. At all. We would like them to.

Yes. Take time. We would like to. Take their money. And that was the give and take email text exchange. You know, if we were to because the thought was broached, like, can I just give everybody a free bet? You know,

can I just give everybody a free bet? And they're like, what rate? And then that becomes an entire regulation question and then if you give like a $5 free bet to everybody, it's like, I'm not doing it. You guys can do that. I don't want to be a part of that. Like, I would like it to be a bet, you know.

And then also for the people that aren't in the gambling sports states, I get a lot of tweets from people how pissed off they are that their state isn't. I want to let them know I'm lobbying every day for you. I'm knocking down doors. Can we do something for them? Because I don't do much fantasy. I was like, can we also give them something? And they said, well, what you were talking about,

and they laid this out, basically. And that would project, we project to lose. And I think they were laying it out to explain to me why what I was asking for is maybe ridiculous. I didn't take it that way, though. I took it as a, cool, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking we do that. And to their credit, by the way, they were like,

all right, we already have it all laid out, I guess. Let's go do it. And that's fucking awesome. We've got to take advantage of it though absolutely especially whenever the they're giving us one it feels yeah oh yeah and there's a couple in there hammer down boys are going to go through it there's a couple bets this weekend that feel like oh sportsbook's about to get got a little bit yeah speaking of thursday night what do you think is the number where you wouldn't be comfortable with? Because I do the same deal. I almost want to take the Bucs alternate spread, like minus 16 and a half.

But at what point do you think you're like, all right, I can't do that anymore? Yeah, I don't think they're going to make it to whatever it is. 10. 13 and a half. I think nine and a half is the number that would worry me. Well, you just stay away from the game. If it gets to 10, I would stay away.

Yeah, you just stay away from the game. But you can't., I would stay away. Yeah, you just stay away from the game. But you can't. It's the first game of the season. What are we talking about? Yeah, have to do it. You got to bet it. So maybe Jerry even told the schedule maker, you got to get my team in there. Listen, everybody's going to have to bet on this fucking game.

Everybody's going to bet on Tampa. They can make whatever. And it's a Dallas fucking cowboy. You put us in there first. I can't wait for it. Let's get to a break. On the other side of the break it'll be the first segment of this season-long segment that'll come every wednesday

at about this time coaches up chuck with chuck pagano on the other side i i think he's a massive fan of yours aj i assume the same for you uh thinking about him everybody's gonna be a fan of this guy by the end of the season i was very lucky to be a player on a team. You will never hear a single player come out and say, I hate Chuck Pagano. Guy's fucking awesome. And he said, and I quote, I'm not looking for a job anywhere anymore, so fuck. That was his quote. Yep, verbatim.

So fuck. He was in with the toxic table and what we kind of were going to bring to him. He's watched a lot of film on us. He's watched a lot of film on us. He's watched a lot of film on us. Really? Yeah. We did a call. He said something.

Is it what? What? Yeah. He literally, because I think he said, you know, I wasn't going to come into this like completely unprepared. And he's a coach, so I assume he loves watching film. So I bet he had the old exos on us potentially. Like, oh, whenever he starts standing up,

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