The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 503 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 3 Recap With Darius Butler & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 27, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 3 of the NFL season including Aaron Rodgers conducting a miraculous comeback on Sunday Night Football, Justin Tucker setting the NFL record for longest kick hitting a 66 yard game winner against the Lions, whether or not we should be worried about the Patriots, if Big Ben and the Steelers are dead, whether or not the Bears will consider firing Matt Nagy after some members of the media are calling for it after Justin Fields performance against the Browns, and much more. Plus Pat and newly minted Ryder Cup Champion AJ Hawk break down the US dominating the Ryder Cup, AJ being in attendance in Columbus last night for Extreme Rules. Later, 9 year NFL veteran, host of the Man-To-Man podcast, Everything DB, Darius Butler joins Pat and AJ Hawk to give his takes on Overreaction Monday including which 3-0 team he trusts the least, how bad the officiating in the NFL is, if the Colts and Carson Wentz stink, and why all the rookie Quarterbacks seem to be struggling so much (57:54-1:17:36). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is overreaction Monday, September 27th. Good show today. A lot to chit chat about. A lot happened yesterday, obviously, in the NFL. A lot of storylines developing. Who stinks? Who's great? Also, some extreme rules chitter chatter because that was an amazing night in Columbus. I mean, thank you so much for joining us. If you like this show, please be a friend and tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Let's get to it. us if you like this show please be a friend and tell a friend if not just act like it never happened let's get to it there is so much to chit chat about a beautiful weekend that was the super boost hit yeah the biggest ball in the history of the nfl was kicked by justin tucker in detroit what a joy to watch that thing live after a potential delay of game

and a fourth and 19 game. But still, for the brand biggest day in the history of the league, life is fucking good. Everything's going well. Except for the Colts dead. Oh, shit. Are there some other teams that are completely out of it? Are we starting to figure out who's going to go and who's a big O?

Nah. There are some teams that stink right now. Now, we're only three games into this thing, so we can't start judging it yet. I mean, there has been teams that have turned around. The percentages are very low, but almost a quarter of the way through 16 games. You know, it's a 17-game season, so we've got to go a quarter and a half. You know, 16 was very easy to kind of decipher into fours, which is what a quarter is, and football has four quarters. But anyways, about a quarter of the half. You know, 16 was very easy to kind of decipher into fours, which is what a quarter is. And football has four quarters.

But anyways, about a quarter away through this thing. And I think we're starting to know who the contenders are and who the pretenders are. And we have to talk about it all,

especially because there was a team opening week that looked absolutely awful. And then last night in Santa Clara, California against the San Francisco 49ers with 37 seconds left on the clock, people had to be reminded

of who the fuck the dropping dimes and suck it signs king is yet again. And there has to be a lot of people eating their words because after week one,

the Green Bay Packers were fucking dead. Now we stare down a power rankings that's going to come out this week. And I assume, guess who?

Yodely, yodely, yodely, yodely their way back into the top 10. I'd assume it's Green Bay Packers. We had to continue to ride this wave. Who's dead?

Who's alive? Can't wait to hear from you at 1-833-4-MAC-A-F-E on the 5-Hour Energy phone line. We got overreactions from all around Twitter. We can't wait to dive into everything that is today as Darius Butler will join us in the second hour as will A.J. Hawk, obviously.

Who was in Extreme Rules last night? Really? Yeah, saw him. He's a couple rows right behind me. You know, when I went over to talk to the kids and to his wife, he was getting food. Ah, of course. It was the only time I could really get over there because of the way things are at Protocol. You know how life is. But didn't get to see him.

But I can't wait to chat with him because we both watched the game last night once we got home. Because I wasn't able to see the entire thing because I was calling Extreme Rules. Yeah. Where a man, a demon, came back to life whenever a song came on as his heartbeat radiated through all of Columbus. There was a lot of that going on. Got a chance to watch the game last night. We're both very excited.

We called the Packers to win and do that whole thing. And they did. A lot of people thought they were going to get killed. That was kind of a setup for them to die. Al Michaels, I think, throughout the game as I was watching late night. I might have been on a couple of vitamins and a little bit tired, felt like he wanted them to lose, the Packers to lose, and Aaron to do bad there through a little bit.

And I love Al Michaels, but I'm just saying everybody on earth, I think, thought that that Packers team was probably going to go out there and lose to Sam Fran just with the history and everything like that. Instead, they come out of there with a massive win. Mason Crosby hits a game winner. Daniel Carlson hits a game winner. Daniel Carlson hits a game winner. Youngho Koo hits a game winner. Justin Tucker hits a game winner.

I mean, it was a beautiful thing, a beautiful day, and the Talks at the Table is here to chat about all of it. At Ty Schmidt, Green Bay Packer owner, you've got to feel pretty fucking good. That was a game that was going to be tough. I think you even came to a point of reasoning with yourself where it was like, all right, we might lose this game. We're going to have to stare down that there's a chance we're going to lose this game. And all the way up until about 37 seconds,

it felt like everybody on earth thought they were going to lose that game until you saw Aaron Rodgers with some time left, no timeouts, and knowing that you got Mason Crosby, the gray ghost. A man who is an OG bomber for the brand, knocking that through. What a night to be a Packer fan. Yeah, it was incredible. I mean, like you said, too, I was nervous just because of the history with lefleur and shanahan like i mean oh cold handshake yeah exactly cold handshake exactly exactly but i mean i like any packers

fan knows you watch these games like you know that's what the offense is going to do and it was another one where like i mean you know you don't want to nitpick because that's a huge win. But you're up 17-0, and then you give up that touchdown at the end of the half. They come back out, and boom, all of a sudden, like, we're in a game again when it felt like they could have just kind of ran away with it. But, I mean, so glad that the defense scored there. I really did. I was surprised that they gave Rodgers, you know, 37 seconds because when I saw that, even with no timeouts, I was like, okay, well like okay well they're gonna get a shot here i didn't know it was gonna be a 51 yarder i thought it might be like a tucker situation but that i mean you knew that they were gonna go down

and and make it a game shout out to redheaded cuz he understands who by the way said he ain't worried about nothing too much time too much time and he wasn't the only one i think there was a bunch of people that were feeling that way looking into that and i think with what you're saying about them being up 17, no, not being able to put their foot down. And I know it has been a problem in the past and everything like that, but also just week three,

right? Yeah. Team is still going to have to mature and evolve. And we have to remember that as we talk about every single team, including the new England Patriots at Boston Connor, a lot of questions is starting to resonate now up in new England about, you know, Tom Brady,

just the vibe. He's never said this. I don't think, but maybe some other people have, in some interviews and some books and some other stuff, and there's about to be more in reports and all that shit. You know, Tom Brady said he kind of felt like he was forced almost out of there, you know, kind of forced out of there. Felt like there was nothing else he could really do.

He has asked for some things to happen, I assume, and then there was a sit-down, and then he kind of was forced out, and here we are now, and although they lost yesterday to an incredible Rams team, which we have to chit-chat about, that is so much fun to watch. Matthew Stafford's a fucking stallion beast. Hey, I watch every single game whenever he was in Detroit after I retired. Right, sure. Because Evan Fox, a guy who's with me almost all my life,

is a massive Detroit Lions fan, so I'm watching the game strictly so I can talk shit to this kid. He was like 24 at the time or 23 at the time. I'm watching games just so I can strictly talk shit or maybe potentially answer any questions that he might have. When you watch those Lions games, it was never Matthew Stafford. Ever, ever Matthew Stafford. Never.

Never, ever, ever Matthew Stafford. And then you hear that he's going to Sean McVay's offense, and then you start thinking about the weapons, and they bring in Deshaun Jackson, who's still fucking running the 4-2 somehow. He's still faster than the youngest guys who are the fastest people. It makes no sense. And you know that he's going to absolutely ball out, and it has been very fun to watch that.

Congrats to Matthew Stafford, by the way. And Sean McVay running his 4-6 probably, 4 4'7", 4'6", probably at this point. He didn't have any cleats on, so he might be upset if I say 4'7", 4'8", there. Him sprinting down and meeting Deshaun Jackson and then sprinting off the field, I mean, his energy is insane. That Rams team with that defense, too. I mean, that is a scary situation. They got a chance to play against Tom yesterday,

and although Tom and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers lost that game, there was a couple situations where it's like, oh, this is why Tom Brady's Tom Brady, but he's still played great football. He's already won a Super Bowl somewhere else. Now Bill Belichick has to stare down questions all week, all week, about, hey, you feel like this all worked out how it was supposed to? You know, Tom's thrown like 61 touchdowns or something like that,

and in the games there are 60 or 23 games or however many games it's been for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and he's like uh we're we've already talked about that and tommy current yeah guy who comes on this show he's like you've never talked about that actually i've never heard you say a single thing it's all been hearsay or whatever he's like we've already rehashed that uh i'm very thankful for them and on greg hill show which is a morning show i guess up there he chatted even more and he at the end, Bill Belichick said, it wasn't because we wanted him out. That's for sure. And it's like, well, that's not what I heard at all.

What do we know that's real and what do we know that's not? The only thing I do know is that Tom Brady, although they lost yesterday, is going to have a lot more success earlier than I think Bill Belichick is going to with the Patriots. But this was kind of expected, although you've got to be a bit disheartened that $150 million on the first day of tampering period in free agency doesn't appear to be working at all on the offense. Yeah, especially when the guy that we paid the most on that offensive side,

Johnny Smith, is fumbling balls and bobbling balls. Oh, do you guys hate Johnny already? No, I don't hate him, but he's got to figure it out for sure. And it's very funny you say we drove Tom Brady out of New England because Bill's come to the podium and he's talked about it, and we've heard Tom's dad, and we've heard Tom's trainer, but we haven't heard Tom Brady. Bill hasn't talked about it.

He just did. You just read a quote from this morning of him talking about it. Okay, okay, okay. He said he would have kept him. We tried to keep him around, but we weren't as good of an option as Tampa Bay, which we aren't, which we still aren't, because the receivers they have down there are unbelievable. I have a question.

Sure. This is because you're right. He did address it this morning, and I think it's because Tommy Curran told him at his press conference, like, no, we have never. And I assume Bill has thought that he has handled it because he put out that letter about him moving on and everything like that, and he's very much like, let's talk about football.

But him saying that and saying, you know, it wasn't because we won. Did he, and that Tampa was a better option, did't because we won not did he in that tampa was a better option did he go to tom and did he say hey it's not you it's me our team stinks you need to go to a better team you're getting older is that what happened between bill and tom and if that is the case how are we just now hearing that how are we just now hearing that it wasn't because tom didn't feel like he was appreciated and respected or liked or anything like that? Actually, it was the complete opposite.

Bill Belichick said, hey, you're too good a football player for this team that I put together up here. I am the general manager. I am the head coach. You're too good for this. It's not you. It's literally us. Go finish it somewhere else. Is that what happened?

Is that how this whole thing played out? And how are we just now hearing that? I mean, I don't think Bill has to tell Tom that their team's not up to snuff. I think Tom probably can figure that out when he's telling guys that they have to just all of a sudden be faster and quicker, but also that was awesome. That's one of my favorite moments on the sideline. I get open faster, more explosive, smarter, better looking. Yeah. Need more athletes out here. That whole sideline rant from Tom was absolutely beautiful.

But Bill was the GM. And Bill was the head coach. How come the narrative has been, go back to that, what was Bill's quote on Greg Hill? Let's read this thing word for word here. Well, I think we've been through all of the dynamics of that. There were a lot of things there. He looked at his options and made his decision. We weren't as good of an option as Tampa. You'd have to ask him about all that,

but it wasn't a question of not wanting him. That's for sure. So they put together a contract offer, I assume, for Tom to stay. And who knows what it was, probably nowhere near anywhere. What was it? Extension, because there was a player option that Tom opted out of, not a team option that the team opted out of. So their contract extension or whatever the conversation was revolving around, I don't know if it was $25 million a year, which is what Tampa paid Tom, right? No. It couldn't have been because remember our cap last year was so bad. That's why, you know.

A million dollars to Cam Newton for the quarterback. Yeah, exactly. Hey, we wanted him, man. We just wanted him, you know, 1.5 million. We wanted him, man. We were so sorry that just didn't work out. 10 years from now, 15 years from now, Tom might still be playing. Bill might be coaching.

So maybe 20 years from now, I hope there comes a point where we do know exactly what the fuck happened. But that is going to be a big conversation piece this week with Sunday Night Football. Going to Foxborough. And Tom Brady, fresh out of his Subway commercial that I think people hated early. You like now? People have to like this one now. You don't like it? No, I don't know. You're asking about people. I'm indifferent towards it.

I'm personally someone that liked the Belichick Subway commercial a little more than the Tom Subway commercial, but I have seen people on the internet say that they used to like Brady after he left New England and after this Subway commercial, they're back on the side of, I hate this guy. Not me! This is probably like

you and your little friends' barners up there. No, no, no. Retweet if you're with me. No, no, no. My friends aren't on Twitter. They're all clowns. I don't know how to figure it out. I'm just telling you what the people on the internet are saying. Patriots seem to be dead right now. The Sunday Night Football Bill will have something. But also

on the flip side, Tom Gronk Antonio Brown. B.A. I mean, there is a lot But also, on the flip side, Tom Gronk and Tony O'Brien. B.A. B.A. I mean, there is a lot to be said on the other side as well. Clyde Christensen, also, you know, longtime Colt. He even said when he met Tom, he was like, I'm supposed to hate this guy, right? Hate everything about it up there, blah, blah, blah.

Now they get a chance to go into Foxborough where all of those people down there, coaching staff, players, all have scars. Oh, yeah. There is a lot of PTSD that could come from that Foxborough fear. This is our house. That literally still radiates through my brain as if it was yesterday because every time we played up there, which seemed to be a lot, it got real loud real quick,

and that crowd was singing all fucking afternoon or evening. I mean, it's a tough place to play. Tom's going to experience that. But I think because of that and the way Tom is, you remember he and the Honey Badger, Tyron Matthew, in the Super Bowl, because Tyron said something, Tom sprinted up into the face of him and said something in the Super Bowl. Think about what some of these, you know, assholes are going to be saying to Tom during the game. Oh, man. We'll see. This might be be saying to Tom during the game. Oh, man. But we'll see.

This might be a steamroll of the Patriots. Yeah, exactly. By Tom Brady. Tom's also beaten 31 NFL teams, and number 32 on that list would be the New England Patriots. Oh, boy. We'll get to that down the road. We'll get to that down the road.

Mack Jones threw three interceptions. One was bobbled or whatever off the hands. He had a Zach Wilson-like day. Zach Wilson had another Zach Wilson-like day. I mean, there's a lot to chat about. We still haven't dove into any of it yet. We can't wait for your phone calls on the 5-Hour Energy phone line,

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This is like watching a boxer that shouldn't be in a fight come back and get their face pounded. What is happening? We're three weeks into this thing. I hear Pittsburgh Steelers fans tweeting me saying, hey, tell Aaron Rodgers how good of a city it is down here. Hey, let him know this place is great. What happened yesterday to the Pittsburgh Steelers losing at home to Joey B.,

Jamar Chase, who can catch footballs. Jeez. I mean, that fingertip pinch grab that he had over the shoulder was almost, but he caught it. And that touchdown led to another, which led to another, which led to a beating of the Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh for back-to-back home losses to kick off the first time the Yenzers are allowed back in the stadium after an 18-month COVID crap all over everything.

What is going on in Pittsburgh? Is the world burning? Die! They're going to be fine. Listen, they were without four starters on the D-line. It's tough to win games with that. They were out their top wide receiver. And you stop playing games on Fridays and Saturdays at Heinz Field

because Ben's tripping over the grass. The grass is fucking terrible right now. Wow! Can't have it. The Grimeskeeper! Two years ago, they started 0-3. Listen, Mike Tomlin's never had a losing season, so you know what happened the rest of that season with Duck and Mason.

Steelers are going to be fine. If anyone – this is overreaction Monday, right? Yeah. If anyone here is to blame, it's Jesus. Whoa. Tony. This is awesome. This is great.

Jesus. Listen, Ben was on. Yeah, faith is gone. It's not even in the top five anymore. Oh! You got his family, football, your job, your gambling. The four pillars of day. Wow.

Listen, Ben was incredible. And then he found religion. He found Jesus. And since that day. let him bop, religion has done nothing but let that man die. And this great city died. And I can't sit here

in front of you and find a bigger reason on why yesterday happened and what's going on with Ben. Okay, so you're saying that it wasn't the loss of Jesus. It was't the loss of Jesus. It was actually the finding of Jesus. He's not good enough at hide and seek.

Jesus is? Yeah. Well, I mean, in some places I've heard he's not allowed. I've heard in some places he is not allowed to go hide him. But the fact that you are saying that whenever he became religious, he became such a good person that he's no longer a good football player? Is that what you're saying in this thing? Is it potentially because maybe he's coming back from Tommy John, he's old, and everybody knows he isn't like the most scientifically fit guy of all time. We are human bodies. You and I probably live a lot more

like Ben Roethlisberger than we do TB12 or Aaron Rodgers or any of these other guys that play until they're very, very old. Is there a chance that there is a little, as Mike Tomlin coined it, physical deterioration of the body to Ben Roethlisberger? If I do have one complaint about Ben, and I don't. No, just the Jesus thing. Just the Jesus thing. Yeah. Jesus.

So three starters on the O-line or rookies or whatever. Pretty close. When Ben does have time, he's just sitting back there and he's not throwing the ball. He's just holding on to it. He's playing like he did 10 years ago when he could shrug dudes off. Oh, it's a nostalgia act. Oh, Charlie McLaughlin. Oh, Ben Roethlisberger, nostalgia throwback Sunday.

He can't do that anymore. He's holding on to the fucking. Get rid of the fucking ball. Hey, alright. I think you heard people say last year, like, hey, too quick. Ben's getting rid of the ball. He's listening to everybody and he can't take hits anymore, so I think he's voluntarily doing it. I don't know what the fuck's going on.

Yeah, I don't think it's just Jesus, pal. It does sound like everything is kind of... Well, we fine, though. We fine. 8-8, 8-9, 9-8, whatever. That's fine? That's not good. I ain't going to make it in that AFC North. I don't think so.

I ain't going to make it in that AFC North. AFC North. Browns are the only good team. AFC North, the Browns are the only good team in that fucking division. Hey, Cincinnati literally just beat you guys in. That doesn't make you a good football team. And the Ravens.

And the Ravens. They should have lost the Lions. Yeah, okay Ravens. They should have lost to the Lions. They lost to the worst team in the AFC West, the Chiefs. Well, hey, by the way, that's a conversation to be had right now. I mean, we'll get the two sprains, too. This guy. Yikes. There's a picture floating around the internet right now of a gentleman out in public.

It looks like a stadium concession line is where he is standing at in the photo. And he has two walking boots on. And the only reason I know that this photo exists is because a lot of people on the internet decided to tweet that to me after watching Carson Wentz play football yesterday against the Tennessee Titans. This guy had a cast-thick tape

around both of his ankles. He literally looked like the Forrest Gump brace around the knees was just of his ankles. He literally looked like the Forrest Gump brace around the knees was just around his ankles. I had no idea what to expect from him yesterday, but I'll tell you what that son of a bitch did do. What's that? He still held on to the ball. He still got hit

and still tried to throw the ball away. He took an intentional grounding. He took this intentional grounding early. They had him clearly sacked. And he literally just, while he was about to die and fall, just couldn't help himself, throws it right into the ground, you know? No more ankle bopping because of the cast they had, but obviously he got an intentional grounding,

lost it down, and a sack right there. The man, I don't know how, okay? I don't know how you talk to him into playing differently. I don't know how you talk to him into maybe not playing when he's not ready. And I don't know how you talk to him after you know that he has not won a game since November of last year. People were still locked down in their houses the last time the Carson Wentz won a fucking football game.

Yeah. Yikes. Colts, listen, you lose to the Seahawks early, and I thought the Seahawks were a good team. Are they? Are they? Lost to the Vikings just yesterday. Had a lead, too, just like they lost to the Titans last week

when they had a lead, too. So Seahawks' only win is literally against this Colts and Carson Wentz squad. So I thought maybe if the Colts go 0-2 against the Seahawks and Rams, okay. I mean, stats say not great news, but these are two very good teams. Carson Wentz squad. So I thought maybe if the Colts go 0-2 against the Seahawks and Rams, okay. It's okay. I mean, stats say not great news, but these are two very good teams. And we lose to Tennessee yesterday, and I'll tell you what, there wasn't a lot of moments where you're like,

yeah, we're going to win this game. I mean, there was none of those moments. No. There was none of those moments watching that game. And Derrick Henry started rolling, and obviously Julio Jones had a couple massive plays, especially one on fourth down early. And Julio Jones could have been a Colt and everything like that. So, I mean, all that stuff happens.

But I don't know what happens with this team. They're in the playoffs last year. This team, 0-3, I mean, are they dead? How is this? We lose Quentin Nelson with a high ankle sprain? That's a problem. That's not great. We got three ankle sprains on two of the most important people on our offense.

And I don't know what's going to happen. The Colts are in trouble, man. Jim Irsay goes, we have three ankle sprains. Yeah. On two. On two players. Yeah, three ankle sprains on two of our best players. Two of our most important players.

All right? The Colts are in trouble. We're not the only ones. There are some other shitty teams out there. I mean, listen. Not that the Colts are a shitty team. You get it. But they are.

Do we know? I mean, Carson came in here. He's a great guy. He's a great guy.'s a great guy he's a nice guy we already know his decision making is not very good at best he's a bobcat guy he's not a john deere guy you know if you're actually an outdoorsman you would never you know be a bobcat guy over a john deere guy but that's when you started to really question him i think i did i did i had to i had. Like you said, like watching that game for whatever reason, like at no point does it feel like, oh, Carson Wentz is going to make a play

and they're going to win this game. And Jonathan Taylor only gets 10 carries. Like they just completely abandoned the run game. Like what the hell's going on here? Yeah, I don't know. And then you go back to last week, there was like 14 points left on the board. You know, they're so bad in the red zone. And Jim, so bad.

So terrible. Just go down, go down at like the 30. And Imert's so bad. So terrible. Just go down. Go down to like the 30. And I think it's because you've got to create space in the red zone. And for whatever reason, there's no trickery, no nothing. It doesn't feel like they're doing anything. This is a team without T.Y. Hilton, though. And I think that should be stated because T.Y. andlovsky and i uh texted last night a little bit

and he's he's actually one to mention he was like do you ever think about like no ty there's no vertical threat on this team at all and it's like that's right i i had completely forgotten about a man that i absolutely love as a human and as a player ty hilton a guy who was in free agency and a couple other teams wanted to get and then jim ursae sent him a text and say hey you ain't going anywhere brother you're staying right here. A guy that's missing because he got hurt about the same time when all the other fuckery was going down.

He's missing a few weeks here. Hopefully, he's back sooner than later, but it might become too late for some of these teams that are completely defeated. There seems to be some teams pulling away, but the NFL is the NFL. Hopefully, water will find its level out there, but not on this overreaction Monday. No way.

Chiefs dead? So, the Chiefs, what's going on over there? They're what, 2-16 against the spread in their last 18 probably? 1-11 in their last 12. I know that for sure. And 2-16 probably in their last 18. I mean, that is. They can't cover games.

They can't cover anything. Normally, they win, though. But the Chargers yesterday their last, or 18. I mean, that is. They can't cover games that. They can't cover anything. Normally they win, though. But the Chargers yesterday, hey, they answered. Oh, yeah. Herbert answered the bell. This is just like whenever they went down to Tampa, I think, last year, Chargers. And not that the first game, whenever he got thrown in,

Herbert was thrown in, what, just moments. And that was the big lead-up conversation into the day was how he literally found out right before kickoff that it was happening. And other players on the team didn't even know that he was the starter. They thought conversation into the day, was how he literally found out right before kickoff that it was happening, and other players on the team didn't even know that he was the starter. They thought Tyrod Taylor was going to come out. Little did they know, a golf team was getting pulled at Tyrod Taylor's lung there. So Herbert's the starter, and they all kind of fell in love.

But when they went and played in Tampa against Tom, and obviously Tampa won that game or whatever, but there was moments where Herbert saw Tom walk down the field and he fucking answered. And it wasn't just like an answer. It was like an emotional answer, like a here we go. So I immediately think to myself like, oh, they got like a dog over there. They got a guy that you see Aaron with 37 seconds left.

You see his eye. What do you think to yourself? Oh, that guy's going to go fucking do this thing. Normally you've been able to do that with Patrick Mahomes. And for whatever the reason is, whether it was a late pick that happened in there, there was a couple other situations that happened with that. I don't know what the case is. Now Andy Reid's in the hospital.

We hope he's okay. T's and P's, he was feeling ill, and they put him in an ambulance immediately after the game or whatever. They said it was out of precaution, but let's fucking hope so. What is going on in Kansas City? Because I thought this was going to be the year that they come back. We lost the Super Bowl. Everybody's talking shit to us. I thought they was going to be the year that they come back. We lost the Super Bowl. Everybody's talking shit to us.

I thought they were going to come out and try to go for the undefeated and really go for this thing. And it feels like for whatever reason, and maybe Andy had, I don't want to say he had COVID yesterday, but maybe he had something that for whatever reason it wasn't clicking and maybe the magic was off. But I heard Patrick Mahomes speak and he said, hey, there's a lot of season left.

Got to turn this thing around. He's saying all the right stuff. But it isn't the same savage team I think that we're used to seeing last year they would never fucking cover and the reason why they would never cover is because when it came down late and they were down and they had the win boom they would flip a switch Patrick Mahomes Travis Kelsey Patrick Mahomes Travis Kelsey Patrick Mahomes Tyree Keel boom they score they win the game they don't cover here we are Worcester the Chiefs now there's a couple situations popping off where it's like that savageness, they're going to have to find that again.

And the defense is going to have to start doing some stuff too. You're talking about the savageness. Was it a detriment to them that they were so good at coming back, that they just got used to it? Like, hey, we'll be fine. Hey, we'll be fine. I don't know. I don't know.

Because you've got to start thinking about yourself in a situation. Like if I'm in cornhole and we're down, okay, can you just flip the switch? Like these are things I enjoy finding out about me. Like these are really things I enjoy finding out about me as I've gotten older here. Can I just flip the switch and go? I feel like, and I'm much different than the Chiefs. Think about how much more athletic and I think mentally tough and competitive

and everything like that those guys on the Chiefs. I don't think that leaves you. I honestly don't think that leaves you. Now, maybe they did just get too comfortable and think like, hey, we can do whatever, whenever, however, and they still can, I assume, but I still feel like they do feel like they've got

to flip the switch and then for whatever reason, it's just not happening. It's like they're going to have to figure that out. They're going to have to figure that out at some point. Yeah, but the Chiefs now remind me a lot of what the past used to be. At 1-2, I'm still not taking any other team in the NFC to go to the Super Bowl, aside from the Chiefs. The Patriots and the Steelers are 1-2. The Chiefs are 1-2, and it feels much different,

strictly because they still have plenty of time and eventually we'll figure it out and go back to the Super Bowl. Yeah, and there's a couple teams, like for instance Panthers. Yeah. Hey, how do we feel about the Panthers? They might be the best team in that division. How about the Broncos? How do we feel about the Broncos? Unbelievable. Sam Darnold,

new home, undefeated. Teddy Bridgewater, new home, undefeated. Matthew Stafford, new home, undefeated. Teddy Bridgewater, Newholm, undefeated. Matthew Stafford, Newholm, undefeated. Carson Wentz, Newholm, completely defeated. Jared Goff, Newholm, completely defeated. I mean, so it's a real roll of the dice. You don't know what you're getting. I mean, it could be a momentum thing, like, hey,

I need to prove myself to this new team. It could be like, hey, this team is, we're only one quarterback away from really going which is but potentially happening in denver and maybe in carolina even though they got rid of the quarterback that's in denver undefeated because they didn't think he was good enough there uh but then you look at situations like the colts and it's like what happened how do i go so far backwards to his point the uh chiefs are still the favorites to win the super bowl yeah and that's it's because I don't know if that savageness leaves you, but I feel like they might have to be, like, reminded. Like, hey, you guys are – like, Henry's in the fucking hospital right now.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. We just lost to a division opponent at home here. Like, what's going on? This can't happen, obviously. It's – I went in – remember, Patrick Holmes in the offseason said, I'll believe it when I see it or whatever. I'll see it when I believe it. He. I'll see it when I believe it.

He said, oh, I guess I do it now, the Justin Herbert thing. So they're trying to build up that little rivalry, and the Chargers have always given the Chiefs problems, I think. And the Raiders, by the way, also playing fucking football at a really high level. That division could be very difficult, but it's hard to ever go, no, the Chiefs ain't going to win it. When they've got a half-a-billion-dollar quarterback who's worth it already in just like four years,

Travis Kelsey's going to go down as probably the greatest receiving tight end ever. He's probably going to have a lot of those records. It'll get broken as the tight end position continues to evolve. If Travis Kelsey had these rules at the beginning of his career, I couldn't even fathom what his career would have been like. But with Tyreek Hill and that team, you just assume they'll figure it out at this point. But how many more weeks can something happen where you go like, happened to the chiefs are the chiefs dead i just that is something

i'm interested to see as these weeks roll on well and i see like clyde edwards a lair is getting a lot of heat because he's lost fumbles in two weeks in a row and like the mahomes first interception on that no look pass like it wasn't a good pass but you know i mean that was an incredible yeah deflection incredible play it's not very often, that teams can miss two extra points and still beat the Chiefs. Like, you look at that, and typically in any other game, it'd be like, oh, you leave those points off the board against these guys. Like, they will make you pay for it. And they just didn't yesterday. Yeah, people would change their entire game plan.

They wouldn't even kick field goals against the Chiefs because if you do, you're fucked because they're going to catch up. And it's like they weren't able to do it against the Chargers. I mean, it's becoming a situation now where if they – imagine this Chiefs team being 1-3. I don't know who they play next, but imagine that happening. That would be insanity. Then the Seahawks lose to the Vikings. The Vikings get their first win.

Congratulations to Kirk Cousins. If they went 0-3, that was going to get loud. Yeah, quick. It was starting to get real loud. Zimmer hates Cousins. We overspent for Cousins. Get they went 0-3, that was going to get loud. Yeah. It was starting to get real loud. Zimmer hates Cousins. We overspent for Cousins. Get him out of here. Zimmer has no idea what he's doing. It was getting loud over there because just a couple years removed

from the same core minus Kyle Rudolph who ended up catching that touchdown on the pass interference. But same core basically still there. Same quarterback. Same couple wide receivers. Had some young talent. And on defense as well same head coach a couple years ago they go down new orleans won a playoff game yeah so everybody's like here we go then if they were to go oh and three i think people would have lost their minds in minnesota because they think that team's a lot better than

they have been performing i agree dalvin cook i think he was out yeah he didn't play yesterday he's a game changer mad Madison went for like 120. Yeah, he had a hell of a day. I can't wait to see Chuba, by the way. Chuba? Yeah. Hubbard? Chuba Hubbard.

Is that his name, the Canadian sensation? Yeah. Old Chuba? Carolina. Yeah, he's got to go in for Christian McCaffrey. I wonder what it's like whenever you're in a room with a great running back, and you're behind him, and you're good as well, but you see like Dalvin Cook and Christian McCaffrey are two.

Oh, yeah. And if old buddy rushes for 120 and then see what Chuba does, it's like I wonder what type of learning from – because it feels like a lot of these running backs have a great sense of feel. Can you learn that? Does it change you at all? Do you watch film? I'm excited what happens with Chuba as well.

Washington football team got slaughtered by the Bills. Yeah. They might stink. Bills are defenses. The Washington football team is ranked like 29th, 31st, 32nd, in everything that is on the defensive side. They invested Chase Young, number two overall pick, I think, right, on the defensive side of the ball.

Yeah. Ron Rivera always been a tough team, going to have a good defense. Last year, they almost beat Tampa Bay in the fucking playoffs. Yeah. Changed the whole thing around. ball yeah Ron Rivera always been a you know tough team gonna have a good defense last year almost beat Tampa Bay in the fucking playoffs yeah change the whole thing around now they're ranked in the bottom three in every single ranking on the defensive side of the ball Ron Rivera's I mean there's people on the internet and obviously this won't happen because Ron Rivera I think is a part of the naming of the team process and he's he's kind of in the business of the whole thing and what's going on over there especially after especially after the incredible turnover in the front office

and the corporate space and everything like that. Ron Rivera beating cancer in the middle of that whole thing and being kind of the only stable part, I think, of that organization for a little bit alongside Jason Wright who had to do a bunch of business. So I don't know if they'll ever do that, but people are fed up with Rivera. Some Washington football team fans are like,

this team stinks. They've regressed. They've gotten worse and everything like that and then you heard about the whole obviously Ron Rivera was pissed off about the vaccination situation with his team it's like is there is trouble looming in Washington and what are the expectations of Washington I don't know if anybody's expecting them to be great I think I thought they were going to be good because of what they did to Tampa and Heineke's back but you got to Tampa, and Heineke's back. But you got Fitzmagic hurt. Heineke's in there. And maybe the Buffalo Bills have just become a complete wagon

after that first week. 35 zip against the fucking Miami Dolphins one week ago. Then they were up 21 zip at one point. That's 56-0 in the last six quarters they were up. It feels like the Buffalo Bills have found their rhythm. So I'm not ready to just completely throw away the Washington football team. I think they'll be scrappy out there. but there's a lot of questions over there. Well, and I think part of it, too, is you see that division right now,

and it's just kind of like who's going to win this thing like it was last year. If there's a time to strike and make a couple runs in the playoffs, it's right now because if Dak just keeps getting healthier and healthier, you have to assume that the Cowboys are going to be back at the top of that division for a while. Big game tonight. Philadelphia Eagles are getting three points down in Dallas. Now, Coach Sirianni said, what, I hate Dallas or something. Beat Dallas or whatever.

He said it's the closest thing to a college rivalry that the NFL has is Philadelphia in Dallas. Down in Jerry World on Monday night football with the Monday night Manning cast starting at 8.13 on ESPN2. This game's huge. If the Eagles beat the Cowboys, that NFC East could potentially become the carousel of who's going to get this thing again. Now, if the Cowboys really step on the Eagles' throats, which I think a lot of people are thinking is going to happen potentially, although the Eagles have shown in spurts that they can be a great team, I think.

And Sirianni has shown in spurts that he might be legendary, legendary coach. Diggs thinks he's a genius. Diggs thinks he's one of the smartest guys of all time. And if you start thinking of some of his stuff as like, oh, this guy's smart, as opposed to, oh, this guy's a doofus, maybe we are watching a genius at work over there in Coach Sirianni. Your thoughts? Well, and that's what's nice is I can think that he also has a Mensa-level IQ,

which I'm pretty sure he does, but he still sounds like a doofus on the back end. So for you. It's best of both worlds. Incredibly deep stuff from Coach Sirianni. Also potentially delivered in a fifth-grade reading level. Exactly. It's very good. Can't beat it.

Can't beat it. Can't beat it. But this is a big game tonight for the NFC East, and Jerry's going to have that place rock. Oh, yeah. I'm assuming there's going to be an incredible halftime show. Jerry's going to put on the entire thing. That place is going to be banana land down there. Can't wait to watch it.

But back to the point of the NFC East, Washington's watching tonight trying to figure out what the hell's going to happen, and they've got to figure some shit out over there. Or maybe, and once again, we have to go back to this the buffalo bills might just be full wagon yeah it feels like that's the case here is that the bills figured it out after losing the sealers week one like hey we got to start playing football right now or else we're going to get run out of our own building again dolphins traveled to las vegas to take on the raiders the raiders win in overtime via daniel car. Game-winning kick.

There was two field goals in the first drive of OT for both teams, which doesn't ever happen. I feel like we got the chance to witness some history there. I think it was Raiders go down, kick a field goal. They kick off. Dolphins come back. They kick a field goal. Now it's next score wins.

Raiders go right down the field. They kick a field goal with two minutes left or something like that for a 31- down the field. They kick a field goal with like two minutes left or something like that for like a 31-yarder or a 20-something yarder. Congrats to the Raiders winning but not covering. I had that minus three and a half. Jacoby Brissett looked like a guy over there, though. Oh, he did. Gumpy, our Dolpham member here.

What are your thoughts on the Dolphins? What's going on? I'm not able to get a stop when you need it. Able to drive in the field goal range anytime they wanted to there in overtime. So is that an indication of the defense or is that an indication of how good the Raiders offense is? I think we'll figure that out as we go. Is Jacoby the guy down there? How's the team look, Gump?

So we went up 14-0, pick six, and then run play, Malcolm Brown. But then they closed the playbook up, just tried to run the ball, run the ball. They go down, then they open it up, starts hitting Gusecki, Parker, Jacoby's elusive. He looked good.

Defense just can't get off the field when they need to. Yeah, that's what it seemed like when I was watching it back. I was watching it back late night last night, and I was fucking bummed for our Fin squad, you know what I mean? They had a good leader in there, like Kyle Van Nooyen maybe get a start. Did you happen to see the play they called when they were down at their own one-yard line?

Yeah, Gumpy, you left out maybe the worst play in the history of modern football. Well, worse than the – It's up there. It's up there. Oh, yeah. I didn't see this. When was it? In their defense, they didn't run the ball on first down, so some people should be happy.

But they did throw a pass into their own end zone for a safety. Checkdown. What? A screen? Oh, yeah. They ran like a screen. Waddle just kind of had it. He was the checkdown option in the end zone, basically behind the goal line. But Jacoby was further back than him? Yeah, a little bit. So checkdown to him

tackled immediately safety. But analytics, they didn't run it on first down it's brilliant yeah situation's a situation when you're on your line i mean that is uh cardinals get a win over the jags jags were up though yeah and that came after a kick six situation where matt prater went out for a 68 yard field goal and fucking duval a lot of people on the internet you know hindsight's 50-50. Cam Newton said, it's Cliff Kingsbury's worst decision of all time.

Putting Matt Prater out there to kick the 68-yarder at the end of the half against the fucking Jacksonville Jaguars. Okay, Matt Prater has the record already for longest field goal at the time for 64 yards. He just hit a 62-yarder a week ago, and he got all these people who are experts going, what's Cliff Kingsbury thinking? Well, he's like a yard and a half, two yards short there, right? That is maybe three yards short there.

Would have maybe been able to carry and do a little doink in that thing. But, I mean, who knows if Gus DeWitton hits that thing. You see a brand-new fucking record from Prater. Prater's one of the only guys that you should send out there for that thing. But in return, you know, what can also happen on the other side of that is the old kick six situation with Jamal Agnew, who came flying out the fucking gates. Looked like a horse at the Kentucky Derby when that thing, as soon as he started hitting that down the sideline.

And anytime, you know, the field goal is being returned, you got a lot of big bodies out there. Okay, you got offensive linemen, you got a couple of tight ends, maybe a swing tight end, a swing tackle is out of tight end, so you don't even have a tight end out there. You've got offensive linemen, you've got a couple of tight ends, maybe a swing tight end, a swing tackle is out of tight ends, so you don't even have a tight end out there. And normally, you know, the way you practice that is snapper, holder, kicker to the ball. Okay? So allegedly what's supposed to happen, I guess,

is I'm supposed to hold that thing, and then as soon as he kicks it, I'm supposed to cover. Okay? That then as soon as he kicks it, I'm supposed to cover. Okay? That's never going to happen. All right, I'm not going to jump through the thing, but the defense knows wall towards your sideline. So anytime those long field goals happen, they practice this situation, everybody on the team just goes wall to your sideline, basically.

You go to your sideline because if there is a block that's questionable, if you're on the other sideline, normally a little bit too much energy can potentially get the rest. I think. I'm not 100% sure. I haven't been told exactly why, but it seems like the wallows on those long ones are normally towards their own sideline. They hit that thing running. They go 109 fucking yards.

Congrats to Jamal Agnew. Congrats to him. But then just a couple minutes later, Justin Tucker gets a chance to win a game from 66 after a fourth and 19, an obvious miss to delay a game. And then he takes the kickoff steps. So, everybody. All right. So, Foxy.

So, when Tucker does his steps, you'll see it. He goes back. He does like the bless me Jesus thing. Oh, yeah. Because Jesus has been good in his life as opposed to what Dig said about Jesus in He goes back. He does like the bless me Jesus thing because Jesus has been good in his life as opposed to what Diggs said about Jesus and Ben's life. He does this whole thing and then he slides over.

Then he does this rock step and then he slides his foot normally. He slides his foot, which I think most kicking coaches would say, hey, don't slide your foot because where your foot ends up being should be incredibly consistent because you're talking about a game of interest. You should be at the same spot you should do this and I'm assuming he is at the same spot but he has a much more fluid motion than most kickers he moves a lot more and

I think it's because he's athletic in that one normally he would slide his foot back and then come back forward he slid his foot back and then he backed up again okay so he backed up again and he did it like a remix of kickoff steps. He took like a hop step, like a crow hop almost in baseball. He did like a kickoff field goal step remix. He did like a hop step and then boom, killed it. Now, the Lions did not rush off the edge. So I think they tried to block up the middle.

But that's like, I think, a big myth. Mason Crosby hit a 51-yard game when it was a little bit lower, but I think Mason hits a lower trajectory ball normally. Never has problems with blocks, but I don't think he hits it at this age, and maybe he never did as high as everybody else. When you're going from 66, you have to hit your fucking A ball. Like, people always say,

oh, you got to line drive that thing, it won't go. If you hit a line drive, that thing ain't going to carry fucking 10 feet for 66 yards 198 feet or whatever that thing's not good you gotta hit your a ball so i think personally and i don't know what the opt time was and maybe tucker practices this his opt time was probably a little bit slower because he was further back from the ball which i guess you could do every single kick if you really wanted to as long as you didn't move false start wise but normally it's just you're a little bit closer because you got to get it off so quick that one he like he slid his foot back just a little bit as soon as i saw him take his steps i was like god damn he is far

away from that ball right there and then i saw the crow up i'm like oh it's fucking genius like that is absolutely brilliant i texted him this morning i said uh i texted him last night obviously told him like history dude, that is so cool. For the people that kick big balls, like, having the NFL record for longest field goal is dream. Like, that is, you know, that's a big deal. You show up at a camp, you're the guy. Like, you know what I mean? At these kicking camps, the long ball is always where everybody ends up at. Like, you can be the most consistent person.

Okay, awesome. It's cool to watch you knock through 35, 40-yard field goals, but you're not a part of the game that I think a lot of us want to be a part of, which is back in the back there, right? And as I got older, I started deteriorating as well, but if you're the guy with the 66-yard longest NFL field, that has to feel so

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I think it's now as a man who won 11-3 against the spread this past weekend. Whoa. Was that good? Jesus. He was at Extreme Rules last night, then stayed up all night watching that Packers-Niners game just like I did. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, and now Ryder Cup champion, A.J. Hawk. Yeah! Congrats, pal.

Hey, thanks. Big win for the U.S. yesterday, huh, with the Ryder Cup. Those guys really seem like they had a lot of passion behind them. I was glad to get to at least watch them from afar on the course early in the week. Yeah, you're a glue guy. I mean, you show up and all of a sudden they're hugging each other. Bryson and Brooks here are hugging. They're winning.

Scheffler's beating John Rahm somehow. I mean, there is magic in whistling straights. And I think your presence is something that was brought there. Let's talk about your 11-3. You got three wrong. I think it was the Chiefs, the Jets, and the Seahawks, which I think everybody would understand. I went 8-7.

All right, we're turning the tide back around. But it's going to be hard to catch the wagon that is A.J. Hawk. I think you're like, I don't know, 21-6 or 7 or something over the last two weeks, just weeks after you said you're done predicting things. What is going on? Are you the smartest human in football right now, A.J. Hawk? No, you know, hey, it just shows you. Anyone can make a guess at it, right?

And I've got it right two weeks in a row. So let's see how three – this Friday I will – I won't look at the lines or any of the games until Friday. And then in the moment, I like to make my picks off of my instinct. So that's how I like to do it. Well, that from you and I need to just start telling you because there's a lot of times you know where we start disagreeing on something and last week I said I'm gonna listen to AJ and then you disagree with me and I was like yeah you're wrong and I went the other way yeah and I paid for it okay I paid for it uh last night we got a chance to watch that

Packers Niners game late and then I assume you finished it this morning uh Aaron absolutely thanks for coming to Extreme Rules, by the way. It was great to see the family. I'm happy you got a chance to watch that entire thing. It's incredible live, isn't it? I mean, it's insane. Yeah, we got out there a little bit late coming from football, but man, we got there all four kids.

If anyone wants to go to a live show, it is bizarre and awesome in person as well. And if you have kids, they were absolutely glued to everything and super juice. Yeah. Your kids are allowed to just boo humans right to their face and say terrible things and then cheer for other things. Live WWE events are just electrifying.

Thank you for coming. But then we got a chance to watch that Niners Packers game. Seems like the guy that doesn't care about football or his teammates at all fucking had an incredible moment. Not only when Mason Crosby knocked it through and he showcased that, you know, what is that, iron lift, power iron? What was it? Power lift.

Power lift, legs, his base, his explosion, 40-inch vertical in celebration. But 37 seconds left in that game. Everybody on earth knew what was going to happen, except for the Niners fans that were in the stadium. It felt like, AJ? Yeah, I know. I mean, what a perfect ball that he just put right over Fred Warner's head, the first of the two, before they just – I mean, they executed flawlessly.

Those last couple balls, how Devontae got the ball on the ground. I know Dan Orszolowski has been on TV calling for head coaches' heads, but he's also talked about that play, how they executed it very well. Yeah, front page ESPN, I saw Dan's big, big face with his glasses saying Dan or, or Schlossky calls for Maggie's head or calls for Maggie to be fired. I mean, that, by the way,

a lot of people in Chicago are doing the same, I guess, because they average 1.1 yards per play yesterday with Justin Fields. And Miles Garrett told Mike Florio afterwards of the Cleveland Browns, after just burying the bears or whatever, you know, we were actually kind of surprised. They didn't move Justin Fields at all.

So I was able to just get four and a half sacks. I mean, there were some other – I mean, it was amazing to watch that game, I think, for everybody, especially with what Justin Fields has to offer. But that Nagy thing, I mean, Orlovsky calling for his job with a platform is aggressive, and he's going to have to see Nagy at some point. I think that is going to have to be something. But if you think about that offense led by Nagy just a few years ago, and I hate reminding the Chicago Bears fans of this, but it's very real.

The man that I saw on this Sunday's conversation, okay, with Glennie Balls in the pool and Caleb asking real questions, Mitchell Trubisky just a few years ago, number three overall QBR in the NFL with Nagy as a head coach. Then the next year, it looked like the entire offense was broken. Then last year, same exact thing. You bring in Andy Dalton. He seems to do okay, but there's no offensive like,

oh my God, this team's incredible at offense. Nagy's supposed to be an offensive wonder. How is this happening? There's none of that. Then Justin Fields gets in, and it is abysmal. And everybody's wondering, like, how many more years do Nagy and Pace have? And Rolofsky says, they should have another day. And that's aggressive.

That is an aggressive thing for sure, AJ Hawk. It's definitely an aggressive take on it. But with Nagy, his first year there with Trubisky, he was hailed as an offensive guru. Like, oh, here we have another one, another young, offensive-minded guy that knows how to put his guys in position. But I don't know. Like, what's the biggest issue?

The O-line? I mean, you're sacked nine times. You would have to think, hey, not many people could do anything with that kind of time. Yeah, but also that defensive line of the Bears, or of the Browns, I mean, is a good one. Like, they are stacking that thing. You know what I mean?

So I think a lot of people are thinking you get your guy hit nine times, at some point you've got to try to protect him and do something with it, you know, somehow, some way. Maybe the Browns' defense was just absolutely suffocating yesterday in Cleveland, and maybe they couldn't get anything going. But I think the lack of creativity is what has pissed the most people off. Remember, I think it was last year or two years ago, any time the Bears were on primetime, it felt like the commentators were like,

you know, Nagy likes to throw in a fun play. He likes to throw in a fun play he likes to throw in a fun remember they did like a 1924 power eye something and then they went into motion like this is what nagy likes to do he likes to keep it fun and do all this shit it's like well then how come he seems to be the most boring guy on offense only doing the same old thing whenever you can potentially can evolve especially with the quarterback you have now in there justin fields he has not announced a new starter but it feels like they are the bears fans are not happy with that guy's brain at all over there yeah not but he's in a it's a no-win situation if you're not winning no matter what you do it's going to get criticized so if you're winning cool you can

sweep it all under the rug but if he does run some crazy things that we've never seen and all these exotics they're going to say oh how about trying to win a game before you start running the annexation of puerto rico pal like that's people get mad either way so hey just you win games you can keep people quiet a little bit for a while you lose games they're going to pick everything apart winning cures all even if you aren't deserving of the win and everybody knows it no questions are asked we're on the field it's hard to win football games you know what i mean that's it's hard to win football games. But like the Vikings, for instance, they get a massive win against the Seahawks. What are the Seahawks? We don't know. Two second half collapses, it

feels like, by the Seattle Seahawks. Not normal at all. I assume they're going to turn it around and get it right because what they did against the Colts week one looked pretty fucking good. But the Vikings, they literally lose to the Cardinals last week because of a missed field goal that was like this close. And it was like a 34-yard field goal.

They win that game. They're 2-1 right now. Completely different narrative about like, oh, they needed to win this before the entire team imploded. It's very early in the season, but there are a couple bounces that are going different ways. It almost makes fans, and I can't help but think as well, like, oh, this isn't the year for this fucking team.

You know what I mean? It just feels like that's already starting to happen. We're close to almost a quarter of the old season away. Yeah. What is a quarter of the season? Four-point what game? So, like, next Wednesday?

Yeah. Next Wednesday or Thursday. Next Thursday? Yep. Okay, we'll be about a quarter. But we're about a quarter of the way through the season. It feels like narratives are already starting to build, and there's a couple unlucky things.

Like the Lions. I mean, they should have beat the Ravens. There's a lot of things. Dude set a record. Yeah. Think of how different we're looking at Detroit right now. If he doesn't make that kick, like, oh, my gosh, Dan Campbell, we got the right guy. We're on track.

I mean, yeah, he's still, I still like to fight the Lions. I think I took them, didn't I, with their points? Yeah. Did they cover? Yeah, you did. Yeah, you picked a lot of winners. Yeah, 11 and 3. We need you to just keep on.

I mean, the Chiefs, come on. I should have listened listened you guys told me the chiefs never covered they didn't uh the vikings were that one surprised me that day but hey look what it took like i read that they said kirk it's a different guy there's a different human in there different kind of kirk and and zimmer his head coach who's been very frustrated for many different reasons over the last few years so had like glowing praise for kirk and said like this is the best our offense has played since I've been here Jim Irsay said uh you know you just said for many different reasons about Zim and Kirk and everything like that Jim Irsay at the Jim Irsay collection I believe down in Nashville uh with all of his instruments and people

could come see everything he's collected you know he had that sing-along you heard him singing on here and I would I would do it a disservice if I did this thing he did a couple interviews too and if you think about him singing there he's in a great mood right oh yeah pumped i think jim loves nashville and he's given an interview and i don't i didn't hear the interview i only saw the clips he said you know this carson guy he's hurt he's also not vaccinated i mean so it feels like there's a chance that those types of conversations are happening not just between zimmer and k it feels like there's a chance that those types of conversations are happening, not just between Zimmer and Kirk, but probably in every single building.

But those would have got very loud if the Vikings go 0-3, where they could very easily be 2-1, and I don't remember their first week game. I assume Vikings fans think that they could be 3-0 if they really had to. So it's so early, but there's so much to chit-chat about Aaron, though.

Let's go back to Aaron. You talked about that one throw, and we kind of got off the page there. Him jumping, him celebrating, him enjoying himself. He has to be bathing in everybody's regret for everything they said about him over the last few weeks, huh? Has to be. Yeah, and I think the good thing that he does,

like he doesn't get too high or too low with any of these things. Like the outside influence. Is anything outside of Lambeau? Yeah, in the game, of course. He's very excited. I thought the coolest part was when they got up there to spike it, and he spikes it, and he is juiced, like fist pump. Huge fist pump.

I know that was like a natural reaction for him, but I hope Mason saw that. I would imagine that would bring a lot of confidence to the kickers. Well, yeah, as soon as Aaron goes like that, I thought of Mason jogging on seeing that and being like, I've got to fucking make this. You know what I mean? Like, I've got to make this now. Is it harder then? Is it more pressure. You know what I mean? Like, I got to make this now.

Is it harder then? Is it more pressure on you? If you saw like, oh, man, this guy definitely thinks I'm draining. This is tough. No, I think Mason's a G. Mason's. I knew it was good. Mason.

Aaron knows like Mason kicks 50 yarders like they look like chip shots to him. Mason has been doing that whenever he came out of college. Colorado, I believe. I was in college. He was a buff. And, you know, everybody's talking about how big his leg was. And this was when I was in college and I also had a massive leg. So I was at a point where like,

Oh, he's, he's allowed to kick these fucking long ones. I mean, if Rich would send me out, I mean, maybe I'll, you know,

there's always, Hey, be honest though. You thought, Oh, he's in Colorado. It's cause he's got that thin air out there. That's the one reason.

Yeah. That was going to be my next one. Yeah. These would be the things that I would say. And I'd never met him before. And then I was on the same field as him. And I was like, oh, this guy can fucking bomb footballs. And he's just been able to make it look so easy for so long. He's always been incredibly cool to me.

It sounds like Aaron loves him. It sounds like everybody absolutely loves the guy. I'm very appreciative of everything that Mason Crosby has done for the game. But watching Aaron celebrate that, I mean, I don't know if Mason saw it, but if he misses that, everybody's going to ask Aaron, it seemed like you thought he was going to make that kick. What are your thoughts on Mason Crosby in that Detroit game when he won 0-4? I think Aaron was like the first guy over for four.

Aaron was the first guy that went over to him. So that's a great relationship between those two. You need a good kicker if you're going to be a great team. Yeah, and I don't think you really appreciate great kickers until you lose them until they're you've had them for 15 years and then all of a sudden they move on and you have to find a way to replace a guy that has been like a franchise staple for 15 or 20 years most recently chicago saying uh hey get the fuck out of town robbie gold he's still kicking we love you robbie yeah you didn't at the time though you forced him out there.

Allegedly, New England did to Tom. Now a bunch of other quotes are coming out from Tom. Tom is now saying, and also Adam Vinatieri, but Steven Gostkowski came in and did great for you guys. You got very lucky some places. Joining us now, a man who's going to break down everything that happened yesterday. I'm sure he has a couple different viewpoints on a few different games than we do. Something we might have missed, this man will catch and cover because for nine years in the NFL, he played corner, nickel, and safety.

Now he's the host of Man to Man podcast and everything DB. Ladies and gentlemen, FanDuelZone, Darius Butler. Yeah! Fellas, fellas, fellas, what's up? How are you, man? What's the big storyline of yesterday that we haven't covered enough, you think? I mean, you guys have been covering it. I mean, you know, i'm the leader of the

justin herbert fan club so i asked that's probably my favorite uh team to watch that whole division right now is on fire obviously the chiefs are struggling but i love watching uh him play love watching that team play if they clean up those penalties man that team that charges team can be anybody out there uh before we move on to any other games let's finish that justin herbert conversation pretty quickly why and when i think what I viewed last year when he went down to Tampa and he was, I think it was like his second or third week and Tom drove down and then Herbert answered. And it wasn't just like an answer. It was like an emotional answer almost. I'm like, oh, this guy, this guy's got like that competitive edge there. Yesterday, he did the same exact thing

in their house, answered when he had to always seems to be comfortable at what moment did you think like okay this guy's a guy when was it and how do you feel about him going forward i mean honestly his first start you know because he he got told what a few minutes if that before the game that he was going to go and play uh to defend the champs at that time the chiefs and then took them all the way to the wire. So at that point, it's like, damn, you have some question marks about, never about his talent, but about his leadership and those other things. And then I read Mina Kimes' article on him about him being an introvert, kind of being misunderstood.

And if you watch him kind of through that lens, you look at him completely different. He just always calmed. The moment's never too big. He took advantage of that team and that Chiefs defense all day. Four touchdowns, no picks. Went and scored. A lot of people thought he scored too early. Don't give the ball to Mahomes.

You saw what Rodgers did with 37 seconds. Mahomes got it with 32 in the timeout. Staley said, effort, get the points, trust your defense to go out there and get a stop, as he should. They did. Herbert, man, the moment's never too big. And he's got great weapons, too.

Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Eckler in the backfield. Great way. Dog. Dog. Hey, D-Bud, okay, what about the Pittsburgh Steelers? Now, Diggs has his own theory on how they can turn things around. But what are you seeing? When you see, like, Big Ben, he looks a little gun-shy, maybe.

I don't know. What's going on? Hey, hold on. Before you get going, Darius, Diggs' reason for why they're not doing good is because Ben Roethlisberger found Jesus and he became soft. Before Jesus, he was a much better quarterback. So I did – just because AJ kind of slid it in there, I wanted you to know the full context of what his answer is.

He needs to denounce Jesus is what Diggs is saying. BJ and AJ. I'm going to stay away from that. I'm going to stay away from Jesus. I'm going to stay away from Jesus. I keep it football. I did see some comments about that included bologna in the comments. It's bologna, but I'll leave it at that. Oh, yeah.

Whoa. Bop it. Tell them what you're sending them, Diggs. The man needs to crack stick. If you just watch him play, man, he looks done, man. Honestly, he looks done. He. Honestly, he looks done. He just does. And they don't have a contingency plan at the quarterback position.

I don't think anybody's that confident in Dewey Haskins being the guy, Dwayne Haskins. We damn sure know Mason Rudolph isn't the answer there. So that's somewhere they're going to have to address in the draft for free agency this offseason. I mean, he's 39. So at some point, father Time gets everybody except Tom Brady. But it seems like it's catching up to him.

And right now, he's still got the worst quarterback in the division, and that's something you never thought you would say with Big Ben being on the center. Diggs says get Jesus out of there. All of a sudden, he's right back on top, riding high, throwing hard, getting after it. I don't know if everybody shares that opinion, but it does appear that if you're not the most healthy human on earth,

father time can get you. If you're not eating avocado ice cream and all these other things and working on your pliability, literally every single day of your existence so you can prolong your career, at some point your body's going to deteriorate. And I think, are we watching that? To everybody, yes. But that's what the big narrative, I think, for to deteriorate. And I think, are we watching that? To everybody, yes. But that's what the big narrative, I think, for me was coming out of the game.

It's like, maybe Ben is. Tommy John surgery. His body has always been one that I think takes a lot of abuse, maybe. And I don't know. I think we'll have to continue. And Ben, if you watch him, obviously you guys watch him most of his career. Like, he's a quarterback that plays with a lot of instincts. He's not like a guy who just is like a surgeon like Drew Brees or Tom Brady or even Rodgers.

He'll buy more time. He'll fling guys off of him. He'll kind of create things as it comes. So he can't improvise like that anymore. And obviously, he doesn't have the arm anymore. So everything I'm watching, if I'm playing him, if I'm game planning for him, everything is eight yards or shorter. It's a quick throw.

Najee Harris looks like a great pick, but I mean, would you have gone somewhere with a quarterback maybe to replace Big Ben? Going forward, who knows, but it looks bad right now for the Steelers. I didn't expect them to lose back-to-back home games, but here we are. Okay, so whenever you look at the Washington football team and their bottom three in every basic defensive ranking, especially after what happened at the end of last year and they invested obviously in Chase Young

and it seemed like everything was on the up and up for them, the Bills just blew them out of the fucking wall. I mean, it was a blowout up there. Is this the Bills? Why are the Washington football? Why do defenses sometimes take a step back? Is it a chemistry thing? What are your thoughts on that?

Man, I don't know because they – I mean, they got up front. They got all dogs across that front. And coming into this year, everybody had them billed as a top five defense. And I feel like every week, you know, the other offenses kind of had their way. The Chargers the first week, second week. Danny Dimes probably had his best game against them. And then the Bills came out and put a 40-burger on them. So, I mean, I think it was a combination of the Bills and Josh Allen kind of finally showing up

and the Washington football team just not playing good complementary football. But that defense is definitely taking a huge step back. I honestly don't know why it is. I'm not like Dane. I haven't, you know, watched every game yet. But I don't know. Dan Orlovsky said the New England Patriots offense would be better than Green Bay Packers offense. Yep.

People forget about that. Let's not forget about that because he was dancing all over me after week one when the thing did the whole thing. Yeah, he did that. Yeah, I just want to let you know. You're right. I appreciate you saying I haven't watched the film. I don't know why. But it's getting hot over there, I think want to let you know. You're right. I appreciate you saying, I haven't watched the film. I don't know why, but it's getting hot over there, I think, for Ron and that entire Washington football team.

They're going to have to figure it out, especially if the Cowboys win tonight. I think that'll be like a staple. If Philly wins tonight, though, the NFC East continues to be a fucking guessing game on no idea. I'm sorry, AJ. Go ahead, pal. Oh, you're good. So Tampa Bay and the Rams. Are the Rams that good?

Are you worried about Tampa Bay and Tom? What do you think both of their futures are? Big game. It was a huge game. I think that was a game that everybody was locked in for. And the Rams looked damn good. Stafford looks like Stafford, but just a completely different supporting cast, starting with the play caller.

So he looks great. And Tampa was banged up, too. You didn't have JPP. AB uh you know was missing on offense and then you were down to your you know fourth and fifth cornerback out there and you know you're not getting good sleep with your top guys out there going against this offense but you got you know Woods, Cup, Sean Jackson and you got guys who aren't getting a bunch of reps together so it was some you know some pitching catches. And they look damn good, though.

They look damn good. But if they meet again later on in this season, let's say playoff time, I think I'm still going with Tom and the Bucs to win it, win all the marbles on the line. The NFC is heating up over there. I mean, that Rams team looks like – does Sean Jackson still run a 4-2? Uh-huh. Still running a 4-2 somehow. I don't know how that's – and McV Jackson's still running a 4-2. Still running a 4-2 somehow.

I don't know how that's happening. McVay might be running a 4-7. 4-6 in his shit. I mean, that team electrifying that new stadium is gorgeous, too. They must be loving it. Go ahead, Ty. D-Bot, you tweeted last night that that hit on Devontae Adams was 100% clean. And at the time, I was just thinking of you as a pundit and not as a guy who played in the league for a long time

Is that the only way to defend him is to try to sever his head? How do you think? How do you think the officiating has been on the back and a lot of people were bitching about it yesterday? I mean officiating has been terrible and honestly, I wouldn't have been upset at the flag right there, you know letter to law That's definitely a flag. It was some I wouldn't have been upset at the flag right there. You know, letter of the law, that's definitely a flag. There was some helmet contact.

But, I mean, you're definitely far from a cheap shot. I mean, you've been watching the NFL for a long time. That hit 10 years ago would have been a much uglier impact. I mean, Ward, I feel like he tried his best to avoid helmet contact, kind of lay with his shoulder. Damn near his back. But, I mean, those guys are going 1,000 miles per hour. So, to expect them to avoid all helmet and head contact, I mean, is damn near impossible.

I mean, as impossible as I thought, you know, beating and clearing the concussion protocol in 47 seconds. That was very impressive. Oh, Devontae, his baseline. His baseline. No, his baseline. Just his chest. Yeah, it was good. I mean, I've never seen anything like that. But I think –

He's built different. What's that? He's built different, they're saying in the back. Nah, whoever that doctor was is built different. Had some hard knock footage of that. But I think it was a clean hit. You know, like I said, in today's NFL, flag should have been a flag. Yeah, but ultimately I think he didn't go in there with any intention

to cause any bodily harm to 17. But it's football. It's still a violent game at the end of the day. And now when those guys come up the middle, that's your job as a safety is try to dislodge them from that ball. I don't want to take a turn too far away from football here, but you just brought up that doctor being built different and you're a South Florida boy.

Did you ever get drug tested down there by that white guy with a ponytail and all the gold chains? No, not him. We had the same guy, but I never tried to bribe him either. Well, that's the guy. That's the guy, that white guy with the ponytail with the gold chains. I got tested by him in Fort Lauderdale one time, and

he was much different than every other piss collector that I had ever seen. I've been tested in Carolina, Pittsburgh, Vegas, California, Indy, Pittsburgh, Vegas, California, Indy, obviously, over 200 tests. Did they ever get you internationally? No, I never got international. They never got you on vacation?

Okay. Sebastian Janikowski actually told me to go on cruise. What'd they do, land on boat? That was right. That is how I got away from them a little bit. They were not able to do that, but I got tested everywhere. That South Florida guy, though, that's being brought back up into the stories because of what's going on with leo collins i believe with

the drug test situation and then obviously the von miller situation that happened and many others that guy as soon as i pissed into the cup for this dude and once again these are normally very older gentlemen this is a retired job they do get paid for it that guy as soon as he showed up at the apartment or the i think it was at a hotel or apartment complex I was at the chains the watches

I was just like what is this are you the tester he said yeah and then he said you come down here a lot you know we can work something out or whatever

I was like I don't do he actually he like pitched it to me almost and I kind of took like respect that he was like hey you look like a guy

who's ready to game this whole fucking thing like you sick of it and I was but he was like, hey, you look like a guy who's ready to game this whole fucking thing. You're sick of it. And I was. But I was like, I don't do deals with piss collectors. I called my friends, told them the story. And then that whole thing came out maybe a year later. Sounds like entrapment to me.

Well, that's what I'm saying. When that story came out, I think it was potentially a lot of players would be like, oh, these players did this whole thing. It was like, if it was the same guy, which I do believe it was, literally immediately upon closing the thing on my piss, it was like, you down here off him, by the way? And I was like, I don't know. So that guy was built different, obviously. And the Devontae Adams thing, he said his baseline was perfect. It was just a stinger.

It was just a stinger. That's right. His chest was okay. Bro, we had the close-up. Like, we saw his eyes rolling in the back of his head. He was, you know, stuck down there. We've all been in that position. But, I mean, apparently he was good because he came in and got, you know,

two pretty much game-winning catches to set up Mason Crosby. And, I mean, just what a phenomenal performance by A-Rod. And I feel like A-Rod knew it. As soon as he took the knee, as soon as he spiked the ball, he was already celebrating like, ah, this is good money. So I mean, that was crazy with it on Sunday night. Yeah, we got a studded kicker, by

the way. He's been doing this for like the last 15 years. This ain't no problem. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, D-Butt. Raiders, Broncos, Panthers, Rams, Cardinals, all undefeated. Which one do you think is not legit? If I had to pick out of that crew, I would probably say the Panthers. Oh, jeez. You hate Darnold.

Sam Darnold's Panthers. They started out. Oh, this is not because he said that Darnold stinks. Yeah, you hate him. Oh, this is that. Saints, Texans. I mean, you got a favorable season to start. But if I had to pick one, I would just say them for those reasons.

Now you're down C-Mac, you know, for a few weeks going forward. You lost J.C. Horn for the year, just traded for C.J. Henderson. I still love that defense. But if I had to pick one of those teams that if I had to fast forward to week 12, you know, who would have the worst record out of them all, I would definitely go to the Panthers. Jeez. D-Bo, what about Jamar Chase, what he's doing in Cincinnati

after all this talk in preseason? Oh, he can't catch it. He's got the yips or whatever. I remember telling Pat, I think it's a whole mental thing. You can catch jugs all you want. That dude obviously has great hands. Are you worried that we could go back to that and he could get the yips and all of a sudden he has a drop and you're like, uh-oh,

let's not let this happen again? Hell no. Hell no. Pretty negative questions, by the way. Who's the fakest undefeated team? Hey, how's this guy get back into the state of mind where he can't catch a fucking ball? I'm the one who told you not to worry,

and you're the one that said you need to just do some jugs. All right, terrible coach. That's what you would tell a guy when it's a whole thing going on. He knew. He was confident the whole time. I'm just saying. The Bengals look good. Yeah, that's what you would tell a guy when it's a whole, like, thing going on. He knew he was confident the whole time. I'm just saying. Yeah. The Bengals look good.

Yeah, they blew that way out of proportion. They blew that way out of proportion. You know, he answered it. Obviously, the balls are different. But, I mean, he's back with his quarterback. And that was a guy that missed just like Parsons. He got out of that 2020 season with LSU. So, it was a long time, you know, for him going without playing live ball.

But, I mean, what, four touchdowns, I think he was tied for the league league lead with touchdowns. He's doing the same thing he was doing in college at LSU, so I wouldn't worry about Chase at all, especially with him being with Burrow. Joey, I think, is looking for him, too. There's just a natural, and I think that's why

whenever they drafted Jamar Chase, everybody was like, oh, we should keep Joey. I even said, like, shouldn't we keep him standing? Yep. More so than who we're worried about he's throwing to. They invest in the line. He loved that guy. Said he had a great connection.

It's been very evident these first couple weeks. Go ahead, Tone. D, but I'll give you a more positive question. Thank you. Jesus. Do all these rookie quarterbacks just fucking stink, or is it just because they're rookies? Come on. I mean, honestly, honestly i mean the guys

you know you're going one zach wilson too you know those guys those teams are picking one and two for a reason you know they kind of stink all around and it's going to be it's going to be a grind i heard you guys took a moment of silence for zach wilson's like first three years because y'all knew it was coming but i mean it's ugly and you know you had a a much shortened off season this year too so you're coming off of covid and now you don't have as many otas you don't have as many of these reps so when you're getting you're seeing a lot of these looks for the first time on sundays and these coordinators you know they salivate playing you know rookie quarterbacks the best of the best are going to struggle so um i think it's a combination with that uh but i think all

of these guys would be good long-term, especially, you know, Justin Fields as soon as they get rid of Matt Nagy. Oh, so you're calling for, look at it, Dan, University of Connecticut. They just love calling for people's jobs. Orlovsky literally – Our coach got fired. Fire them all. Fire them all.

Get them out. I called for Nagy's head before the season, though. As soon as he announced Andy Dalton was going to be the starter, which doesn't look like a terrible decision at this point, but I just feel like you draft a guy like Justin Fields and you're in an organization like the Bears who have kind of been looking for that guy. You're supposed to be this offensive guru.

You obviously missed on Mahomes and Watson. You know, Trubisky didn't work out. You go and draft a guy, 11, with the college resume that Fields has, like it's your job as a coach to have him ready, you know, come week one and kind of build that franchise going forward. So, 40-foot, one net passing yard yesterday, like, I mean, that's embarrassing. That is tough. That's not a good start, you know, and let's hope that does not crush

old Fields' confidence. All the way it goes up, though, Fields. Hey, all go up, man. Road will get better. Troubille's got the same stat. The same stat? Stat line, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Josh Allen ain't going to let him play for some time. I mean, that team seems to be absolutely rolling in Buffalo. And last question here before we let you go. We can't thank you enough for joining us. I mean, Two Sprains is a fucking wild animal, dude. Two Sprains is a maniac

on the field. And no T.Y., which should be chatted about. T.Y. is an absolute weapon, a stud. Defense is normally double-team, triple-team him even in some occasions because we had no other weapons when he was there. But this Colts team, Darius, I mean, 0-3. didn't even look like

they were close to winning yesterday pal yeah it was what was it a nine point game it looked like if you watch the game it could have been a 21 24 point game just did not look good um they stink they stink of football right now they stink of tennessee had three turnovers and still won the game that's what's crazy minus three minus i think it was minus three, wasn't it? Yeah, minus three for the Colts. Yeah, yeah. For Tennessee, they still won. Yeah, still won, yeah.

Yes, and you guys know that rarely happens in the NFL. Minus three. That's tough. That's tough, man. It's tough. It doesn't look good. 0-3, tough. They stink right now.

They stink. It's simple as that. They stink right now. But they do have's simple as that. They stink right now. But they do have the guys in the building, I think, to still figure some things out and turn it around. Titans, you know, they just stack two back-to-back wins. You know, then you've got to win against your divisional opponent, who you think will be there at the end.

So that was almost like a win and a half yesterday. But it's still a long season, still 14 games left. So I won't write them off yet. But two sprains, he's got to get it together. Yeah, he's got to get it together. He's got to learn how to play. Frank Wright, too. Frank Wright, hey, he's got to get his shit together, too. They're extending him before this year.

Obviously, extending him and Chris. And, you know, a lot of questionable things, you know, getting into some go-to-go situations. You've got to come away with points. It's the results. Business and the results just aren't there right now. 14 points last week left on the board. First and goal at the 1 and then first and goal at the 10 or whatever.

No points at all from that thing against the Rams, who appear to be unbelievable. And then that first week against the Seahawks, I guess we have no idea what the Seahawks are either. It's two second-half collapses. I assume they'll be able to turn it around, but I thought Seahawks-Rams were probably going to be at the top of the whole thing. Seahawks might not be, I guess, in the end of this if they can't turn around.

Rams will be. You lose to the Titans. I start getting a little bit of a glimmer of a little pessimism starts creeping in, like, does this team stink? Does this team fucking stink in football? And then you see two sprains with two walking boots on out there, stumbling around still trying to do his thing, and then Quentin Nelson

sprains his ankle. I think he's like top 10 player in the NFL. He's gone. Yeah, yeah. All right. It was a very negative conversation with you today. Your fault. Whoa.

Your fault. What? Your fault, and then my fault at the end for even mentioning the Colts. D-Bud, I appreciate you for joining us, brother. Appreciate you, fellas. You're the best. We got to get you in studio throughout the season at some point up here. Let's do it. It's going to get cold, too, so in studio throughout the season at some point up here. Let's do it.

It's going to get cold, too, so, you know, you might want to. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it before Thanksgiving. Yeah, smart, smart. That's smart. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. That's smart. Good boy.

Ryder Cup champion A.J. Hawk will continue right now. Yeah, yeah. Welcome back to the show. The Talks at Table is here. The Hammered Down Boys are here. AJ Hawk will continue right now. Welcome back to the show. The Toxic Table is here. The Hammered Down Boys are here. We'll dive into some thoughts on tonight's game at this hour at some point and also go through the Internet's overreactions this morning on Twitter as we trended number two like four minutes after I asked and sent out the bird call of overreactions.

I can't thank you all fucking enough. You're the greatest of all time. We appreciate you. It is so much fun, by the way. Not the fact that we're doing it to trend. It's the fact that I've done stuff like this all the time because it makes it much easier to find everybody's answer. But the fact that so many people are fucking involved

that it does every single time now, I am so thankful. We are very, very lucky to do this for a living and we can't wait to hear what the... I didn't even see these. I didn't pick these ones, by the way. Weeks passed. I have picked them as ones.

This time, excited for the surprise. Excited to see the overreactions, and I can't wait for that. Who picked them? Ty was part of the selection process. There was a few teams' overreactions that were missing that some of the boys had to go back in and search again. I mean, it was a real team effort. Hey hey are they all real like are they all real or you got do you throw in some fake ones we have to decide if this is a real take or not so we don't

we haven't done any burn because there's so many answers yeah so like i like when i was selecting them i started like feeling bad you know because once i start going here i have no plan or thought it's just kind of in the moment. So sometimes I'll leave not enough time for enough things, you know, and I feel terrible about it. For instance, Cairo Santos, I didn't compliment him at all whenever I talked about Robbie Gold being running out of time. And I think Cairo's like maybe the 27th kicker since Robbie Gold has been gone,

and he has really struck on, which is good news. But there's a lot of things I don't get to, and then there were some of the overreactions I thought were good that I didn't get to on air. i'm taking that somebody else needs to do it because i feel bad about it you know what i mean angie i feel bad about it i get it i understand i think there's yeah there's probably plenty of overreactions if you actually go out there and look well it's also it's good it's tough trying to balance like what's just like a very normal take and i mean it is overreaction monday like so you gotta bring it yeah you do want like an

okay like that's legitimate overreaction. Yeah, and we will get to that in about five minutes because we have to talk about something first. The United States just dog-walked the Europeans, didn't they? Hell yeah. I mean, it was, you know, the first four matches, we cleaned sleep 3-1 in the first three, 3-1, 3-1, or whatever. We just absolutely dominated them.

In the fourth match, they started getting a little closer. Maybe a little tide was turning. They thought Jon Rahm started locking it in. Garcia was playing well. I mean, it was electrifying. That atmosphere, the booing of people missing putts, and the cheering of long drives and everything like that, that's how I think golf could get much better if that was everywhere. Now, golf doesn't think that, obviously. It is a gentleman's game. It's very quiet and focused, and I understand it's proper and whatever. My type of golf, though, I think is Ryder Cup golf. That was awesome. It was riveting.

Couldn't watch any of it Sunday because football, obviously. But we fucking dominate them. That feels good. AJ, is there any coincidence your first time participating, America gets the Ryder Cup back? I don't think so, pal. Let's continue to win this thing forever and beat the fuck out of them. I'm trying to get an invite to Rome here

in two years when they do the Ryder Cup over there. Maybe Riggle and I got eight points for the U.S. in the celeb match, so maybe that kind of gave them the springboard that they needed for the pros. And no offense to the other celebrities that were there. You guys were the only ones that won. I saw on a local

newscast in wisconsin he interviewed you i saw i was just hoping the ball goes far you said yeah that's what you said in this interview exactly what i said it sounded like you just woke up which by the way you probably did it might have been like no no no i was when the guy i was so they said hey you got to be in the tunnel underneath the first hole 15 minutes before or like you're not going to be able to play so they rushed us like we ran from this breakfast tent to the putting green or the driving range and then i was running off the driving range to go to the hole and it goes like hey from milwaukee you got a question i was like out of breath but yeah okay buddy and i think i didn't say what you

i said something about trying to hit it and find it that's all i care about yeah i mean i don't know if you sounded exactly as soon as i heard it and we moved on to the next one in my head i heard yeah i just super hit the ball farm that was my takeaway that was my takeaway from it because there was other people you know i think that were a little bit more invested in the golf and the whole thing are you invested are you kidding me bro i'm not i wanted to win badly like i was all in i mean that's what i'm saying you were relatable though like some of these celebrities that are probably terrible golf now that i'm hearing that you and wriggle were the only people to earn any points and there was all in. That's what I'm saying. You were relatable, though. Some of these celebrities that are probably terrible at golf, now that I'm hearing that you and Riggle were the only people to earn any points

and there was all these – just how serious they were taking and everything. I thought you were incredibly relatable in that. But the European team beat the shit out of you guys, didn't they? That was the Ryder Cup that the celebrities beat the hell out of you guys. Yeah, it was tough. Tony Kukoc is better than Scratch Golfer. He was in the group right behind me. The dude's an absolute stud.

Those guys can play, man. Guys and girls both, like on both sides can play. It was very, very windy too. I think that affected a lot of shots. And by the way, that's why Big Shane Lowry was getting hot there because he, Western Ireland or something like that, grew up in the wind whenever he was starting to find a groove on Saturday or whatever.

I absolutely loved it. I'm so happy they won with you in attendance. I hope you go back to Rome. I hope we continue to win that thing. But we need to get the Celebrity Rider Cup as well, AJ. So we need to rally there and motivate the troops over there. Come on. I know.

17-16, we lost. We just needed one more point. That's on me. Me and Riggle should have got at least 9 or 10. That's true. That's good ownership right there. Maybe if you're worried about more than just hitting the ball far you know what i mean maybe we would maybe you would have got that uh no i appreciate the fact that the golf was awesome this weekend

why don't they do that a different weekend can we not move that out of football season or is it always in football season it's always in the fall uh but so i guess right yeah it's always in the fall can we not do it that weekend where the cuts are being made? Oh, like right before the first week of football? Can't they just slide everything? It'd be perfect. Can't they slide the FedEx playoffs? Yeah, that's the playoffs probably right then, isn't it?

Can't you slide that and slide? You probably have to go to the beginning slide masters a little bit. Can we not get that? That was awesome. It felt like I was watching the Olympics. It was cool. It was, I mean, the chanting, the yelling, the players sending shit back. I mean, beers were being chugged on the first tee.

I mean, that is golf. It's the only time they're on a team, really, other than, I guess, the President's Cup, too, which they play. So the golfers obviously get very excited. I wish there was more opportunities for them to team up like this so you could pick a side and you get to root for one team or another. I guess with all the events, though, it'd be tough to say, oh, why don't we do this for one of those matches?

You know how they do it, like Aaron did against Phil and all that. Maybe you could put a six-team versus six guys like U.S., Europe, and make a mini Ryder Cup match at some point. Oh, it has to be the Ryder Cup. Because Edward Ryder, who started this thing, first ever won, by the way, the Ryder Cup in Massachusetts. Of course. So the Ryder Cup came home.

Actually, I think it was created by a guy, though. I think the thought was created in Europe, but the first one was in Massachusetts. Yeah, we'll play it in Massachusetts. So did we start it, then, if the first one was in America? Yeah, we'll play it in Massachusetts. So did we start it then if the first one was in America? Of course, and we won it. James D. Harnett was the guy who had the idea. There he is.

Fucking that guy. Ed Ryder? Samuel Ryder. What's that? Samuel Ryder is the guy who the trophy is named after. Okay, so Samuel Ryder did this whole thing. He sponsored it all. Was it in Massachusetts, the first one?

Oh, yeah. I think. That was a lot to read there. I can't tell. It was. Yeah, I did the the first one? Oh, yeah. I think. There's a lot to read there. I can't tell. It was. Yeah, I did the same exact thing he did, by the way. Because I was trying to find it so I could talk shit on the Europeans on Twitter that were coming after me. Because there was one person that tweeted that the American fans are lazy and loud and blah, awful fans and everything like that.

And I was like, all right, I feel like you're kind of coming to me, by the way, because I am a United States of America fan that would go to this thing and yell. It was awesome. It was awesome. So the Ryder Cup came home, by the way. The Ryder Cup came home. To where it was. Coming home.

It's coming home. Samuel Ryder's coming home. Samuel Reiner's coming home. So it came home, which is exactly what I thought. Man, I was about to roll on something there. The fans. The fans, yes, yes, yes. So the fucking European fans were attacking the United States fans for being boring, lazy, not creative, and everything like that.

And I felt like I was getting attacked for that because I put out a tweet that said, I love the Ryder Cup environment or something. And then a couple of European folks who follow along, shout out to you guys. Hola, bonjour, did that last time on the cast of Maka, the peacock having all three commentary things on top of each other. Had a good time with that.

Thought I was going to get yelled at. Nobody really said anything. Did they not notice? I'm not sure. But the European fans have always been awesome. And I think I've realized that through watching wrestling. Like anytime the WWE would go to Europe, they would do a show. It was absurd. It was crazy. So I've actually done some thinking to this and why the European fans think the American fans are

lazy because the European fans are fucking incredible. I mean, they are a part of the game. They are part of the show. They are always at a 10. Now 10 now granted last night in Columbus was also absurd and Philadelphia was insane but it's just it feels like the consistency of European fans are at a much more creative and higher level and so I've actually done thought you know like full thought shopping on this thing it's because their sports are so boring that they have to entertain themselves and they're probably all blacked out drunk and they're just screaming along and somebody says something and it's good and it feels like they're in a free thinking thing because not a lot of success is probably going to happen in the next coming moments. So you can really get into a rhythm. You can get into verse two, verse three, new songs and things like that because you're just watching sports. And by the sport, I mean soccer, a sport that I played probably better than the people that are going to get mad at me for saying what I'm saying right now. it's just i feel like they had to create their own energy create their own good time and then when a goal happens holy shit this never happens banana time and it's like i think that is why so i i agree

that maybe the american fans are used to action and reacting and there's only a couple little things and that's because our sports are much more entertaining. We let them be the show, and we just lose our minds to it. And in soccer, it's different. The fans are the show almost for a little bit of it. I mean, I went to a game, PSG, whenever I was 13, 14, playing soccer in France. There was flares being shot out by people sitting two things down. The Baboos was too.

Remember the Baboos? There was a guy with a dong out at a couple times with a drum in the crowd. I mean, it was insanity. I was like, this place. Did you say his dong was out? Yeah, he had a thong speedo on, and he had the drum on his, and he had like a thong speedo thing on. And he was dropping his penis?

He had his Baboozle out. Yeah, at some points when he was really getting going, you know, He had a thong Speedo thing on. Did he drop it on his penis? He had his voodoo out. At some points when he was really getting going, when four or five passes were strung together and it was a real party time for them, he was swinging that thing and I think it did take a left turn. You'd see the tip of his penis flop out. I'm just saying, it was banana land out there, literally and figuratively. Things were going absolutely crazy.

I have a lot of respect for the European fans, but I don't think they should be judging us because it's a much different lifestyle. It's a much different culture. It's a much different watching. We're just a different crowd than they are.

And their crowd is awesome, by the way. I have a lot of respect for them. Chanting Ole, Ole, Ole at the Ryder Cup doesn't make you fucking great fans, okay? That's what they do.

Yeah, but they remix all the chants, though. They got songs. There were some U.S. remixes to Ole this weekend. I heard a Shaw-Flea, Shaw-Flea, Shaw-Flea, though. They got songs. There were some U.S. remixes to Olé this weekend. I heard a, Shaf-lay, shaf-lay, shaf-shaf-lay. Hey, shaf-lay, shaf-lay.

See, that's a European crop. Shaf-lay, shaf-lay, shaf-lay. There's a Canadian. Shaf-lay, shaf-lay. See, that's soccer. That's hooligan chant, right? That's what that is right there, which is Europeans are filled with hooligans.

That's what they are. I hate to break it to this guy, but guess what? When we're taking our driver and shoving it down your fucking throat and beating the hell out of you, we can do whatever the fuck we want on our home turf. So guess what? If we're going to make you feel like an asshole and if we're really going to rub it in, we beat the piss out of you. You don't want us to do it, then prepare better next time.

A lot of people are saying it wasn't fair play. They were cheating. We were cheating and things like that. How are we cheating? Is this cheating? We have a golf ball whacker guy who eats 10 protein bars a day and hits a ball 417 yards over your fans, our fans, and another state to get to the green.

Well, you've got to go the long way home. Okay? Is that our fault? Are we cheating because we're just chanting, oh shit, USA! USA! USA! What, do you want us to come up with something clever when we just saw a barbarian fucking slaughter a ball for

17? I don't think so. We're all mesmerized by it, pal. Jeez. I mean, you're right, though. The players are the thing. The fans are not the thing. They just add juice. They give juice to the players. But also, going back to the whole soccer situation,

if soccer obviously is giant globally, you can cheer the whole game for soccer. Like sports here in America, basketball, football, whatever it is, baseball is different. But you have to stop cheering. There's a time to cheer and there's a time to not so when i tweeted that whole your sports are boring so you guys had to kind of make up songs i had somebody answer me it was like yeah baseball is awesome and i almost like to my to my point actually baseball was our sport and we got so sick of how fucking boring it was and we we created another one that is actually our sport.

Hey, they have all those chants for baseball, too, like even teams. You know, like in the dugout, you go to little kids' games. They're chanting little, like, they're trying to get runs, like, in the face. Yeah, you guys aren't. No, that's just fucking me. No, the baseball community is like, hey, it's not. It's not. It's not about a swing.

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Best time of the year. What are you talking about? October, baby. Baseball and playoffs are heating up. Bro, Mr. October's about to come home. Mr. October's about to come home. Did he retire 38 years ago? Yeah, but there'll be a new one. There'll be a new Mr. October because every MLB playoff

season, a new hero is born. That's a great point. A new city gets to celebrate. Are you doing the voiceover for the promos? Yeah, that's what they always say, man. They're always trying to sell it to me. Stop selling it. The people that are watching are the only people you're ever going to get to watch us. We've all had an opportunity to watch.

We hate it. Move along. You know what I mean? Are you saying they're not picking up many new fans? I don't think so. I think that is quite a problem for the baseball community. I'm telling you, just mic them all up. Let them juice as much

as they possibly can. Hit 87 homers a year. A.J. Hawk, a man who is in incredible shape and has a great jawline. Last night I actually said that a steel chair that somebody picked up was as wide as A.J. Hawk's jaw. Thank you, really.

He's saying it, but I think we've all said it. That was the greatest era of baseball of all time. Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa were on the cover of everything. Barry Bonds was an absolute superstar, megastar. Baseball was carrying every conversation like they are now, but as opposed to mocking the sport, it's actually for the sport. And it turns out they were literally eating every form of PED you could find.

Give me every steroid that every horse has ever taken. Give me every testosterone boost gum that you have. I would like to get things injected into me by scientists that make me the biggest baseball whacker guy on earth. And it was everybody was doing that. Allegedly. Allegedly.

Depending upon who you listen to. And then obviously the government had to crack down on that and say, hey listen, you guys might be killing yourselves right in front of all of our eyes and we can't let you do that. And then baseball has kind of stunk ever since. So I don't know. You tell me. AJ makes a good point. I'm not saying it because it's not healthy.

I'd like everybody to survive. I want everybody to be healthy and safe. I think that baseball dingers is the only way to bring back baseball. And it seemed like all the dingers were happening when they were eating all the dingers. Let the boys juice. That's right. They would still be able to juice if fucking Rafael Palmeiro didn't go in front of Congress and say,

I've never taken steroids, period. And then the next day they found out, like, oh, actually, yeah, you have, you dipshit. And that kind of ruined everything. But, hey, Giancarlo Stanton, big bat for the Yankees. Yanks are packed. What are you saying? Did you literally just say that the Yankees guy is on Roy's? Oh.

Whoa. Dang. Call a spade a spade. Giancarlo Stanton has been on Roy's at some point in his career. He hit it so goddamn hard and so goddamn far. It doesn't matter. Hasn't he looked like that his whole career, though? Hasn't he looked the same?

He didn't make a big transformation. Yeah, not really. Because he grew up in Belko's office. Wow. I didn't know about that. That's right. That's what he's talking about. Great, great documentary.

You learn a lot about baseball. It's hard not to talk exactly like this about baseball whenever you watch that Screwball documentary when that is exactly what baseball was like, allegedly. But Giancarlo Stanton, that baseball jersey is a little thick, and it kind of sits weird, you know, because it is. You still see his traps on it. His baseball uniform goes like this around his shoulders. He is a monster of a man.

Absolute tank. Beat the fuck out of the Red Sox. Anyways, you guys made the playoffs? They're looking good. They just swept the Red Sox, which was huge in Boston. Right. Baseball stinks. True.

Not as bad as – no, soccer I've been getting into, actually. MLS has been good. MLS soccer has been more. Soccer stinks, you know it. No, MLS soccer. MLS soccer, unbelievable. You just had one of the last games you watched. Surprising enough.

You know, went into extra time. Zero, zero. Yeah. I mean, what are you talking about here? I mean, that one brought me down a little bit, but that was a championship. Yeah, it was a championship. Let's go back to the final. Oh, we got some breaking news, actually.

Not as of this minute, but as of the last hour. After being taken to the hospital after yesterday's loss to the Chargers out of precautionary reasons, Andy Reid is back at practice and in great spirit, says Nate Taylor at By Nate Taylor. The Chiefs expect him to return to work either later today or tomorrow morning. He is back, though, I believe,

as the other reports that are coming out. So shout out to Andy Reid. Thank you. Happy to hear that, Andy. Great to hear that, Andy. You guys got a lot of shit to figure out over there, Andy. I hope everything's okay, though, Andy. Scarcely, guys. Was it dehydrated? Is that why they took him in yeah they said dehydration and

then they went super precautionary i i wondered and i don't know i mean maybe but like covid is still a something you know that there's a lot of protocols for and everything like that i wonder if they thought potentially and then they found out it was dehydration if the initial reports was like oh he might have COVID he's feeling ill or whatever I don't know and then that's why they were rushed to the ambulance to get maybe they were going to give him a bunch of medicine like the quick hey can I get the

full cocktail that it seems like a lot of these rich people are getting that gets you out of COVID quick I don't know if that's what they were doing or not or if they knew it was potentially dehydration all along but I'm just happy to hear he's okay and dehydration can fuck you up, though. I mean, that can get you bad. Oh, yeah.

I saw Pistol, my dad, after a game in Miami years ago, wore a Hawaiian shirt to the game for some reason, and afterwards in the family lot, he's standing there with the Hawaiian shirt completely unbuttoned, his gray chest hair just flowing, and he looked like he should have been in the hospital four hours ago. But just from being out in that city on the hot bleachers in the 105th. He was all boozed up.

Yeah, so Pistol was drunk in sunburns. Are you just saying that because he was wearing – I don't know if he was drunk, but he should have gone to the hospital probably either way. So you're just saying like you just thought of a Hawaiian shirt because you thought of Andy Reid. And you're like, oh, when was the last time I saw somebody – I saw like a guy that was out in the sun that dehydration. I see what it can do to him. Okay, so dehydration, it is a combination of what?

You're sweating, not being hydrated enough, and then don't you hallucinate? You can if it gets super bad. If it gets to heat stroke and all that, then it's really bad, yeah. So I've been drinking, so like last night, for instance, I drank two Celsius, okay, for that extreme rules. That's extreme and I was trying to keep up water wise that is extreme

nobody was talking about that that was extreme that's very extreme that was extreme that I was doing that because I'm in and out or whatever and I'm trying to keep up water wise but you know because it's an energy drink so that's going to naturally

I think caffeine does that as well coffee does it or whatever and there was a couple times man where I was getting like lightheaded I was like oh my god am I going to pass out right here and is is that from dehydration you think could be because these things dehydrate you very quickly and it could be multiple things for you but yeah eat whoa i did not eat okay but what are you what yeah that that doesn't help what

if you didn't eat and you're drinking energy drinks and who else who god knows what else is going in your body. Yeah. Like I could see that. Signs of dehydration in adults. We just pulled up on the internet. Muscle fatigue. What a good show.

This is what we do here. Reduce cognitive. This is Andy Reid. We're happy he's okay. Reduce cognitive processing, dizziness, confused or dazed states of awareness, thirst,

infrequent urination in dark colored urine, dry mouth. Shoot. Dry mouth is a lot of other things too by the way you know that's a sign of some other stuff oh that's pretty good huh all right let's go uh let's go to the five hour energy phone line uh do you enjoy you enjoy the show though huh a lot more than you thought oh the wrestling extreme rules yeah man like we didn't know if we're gonna make it for roman reigns and we're glad we did that dude was great he was really good

in person. And then Finn Balor, he's a different guy now. He's going back to this demon character. He flipped the switch. Jesus, come on. I mean, he was awesome. He was great. But when I watched Finn in NXT, he wasn't wearing all that.

Well, he had to flip the switch because he wanted to go get the Universal Championship. Is that an old thing, or is that new? This has been a happening, yes. What are you talking about? He's found that place in his mind more than a few times. Well, the guy next to me, I sat down first off, and I guess Charlotte Flair was going to wrestle Alexa Bliss. And he goes, who you got?

And I was like, I had a little ax on my lap. I'm like, I don't know. I guess I know there's a right answer here, but I don't know. He's like, Charlotte Flair, I think we like. And he's like, no, I got it like Bliss. Are you kidding me? I think my kids love her, yeah, for sure. And then he actually asked

he updated me on my pics your pics are looking pretty good man he's like oh thank you you should have told him yeah you should see me in the fucking NFL

11-3 against spread just throwing things out there he says I love that you came though I very much enjoyed that you were there and I appreciate you buddy that was a big deal

we were glad it was fun for our kids to see like we were sitting in the second row, and then my kids moved up to the front row, and my wife got some good videos of them standing right there. It looks like Roman could smack them in the face. I was telling them, like, hey, man,

they'll snatch you and throw you in the ring if you guys misbehave. Hey, that's part of the magic, isn't it? Because they did go out into the crowd there. Oh, yeah. Interesting moment there because Roman, I believe he had leukemia, I think. So he's immunocompromised. So it's been through this whole COVID thing, it's been an interesting

because he was away for a while and then he came back and just took over this whole thing. Him going out there and putting the mask on, I thought was very clever. I thought that was very, it was, I think he probably wanted to do it, but also the way it happened, I think it was just, they beat the fuck out of each other.

Oh, yeah. That's beer. Hey, they beat the shit out of each other out there. Anyways, I got to stop trying to pass. I almost pass out on air like three, four times every single show. That'd be great for ratings if it happens. So one of them was during the, so they came back. It was King Nakamura's entrance with Boogs,

and they came to me and I had my hand down on the desk, and I was fist pumping. That's because when I was standing up, I stood up too quick. I was like, oh, shit. Head rush. I put my head down. I was trying to get the blood to my head. I was like, come on, dude.

Come back. Does this happen a lot to you? Just the last couple weeks. I think it's because I'm drinking like two Celsius before I'm going. Pounders? Two pounders? Yeah. Yeah, it'll do it's because I'm drinking like two celsius before I'm going. Pounders? Yeah, it'll do it. I'm not eating. I just got to manage myself a little bit more.

It was scary though. That would scare me for sure if it happened over and over. Two weeks in a row now. You don't go back to catering? Listen, catering is a massive conversation right now. What do you mean? Tony. Did old Evie steal you mean? Tony. Why? Tony.

Tony. Did old Evy steal some food? No. Oh, no. Did Evy steal some food? No. No. I love catering. No.

Catering has been a topic of conversation around the internets with the old WWE as of late. Oh. And I will say, it has been different. What happened? It has been different. Dominus? It's been very different. Have they serving you guys

launchables no no they're still food served okay but what it used to be was just like this you know it was like a

like a full spread on the top notch and there was misses there was misses though like there was full it was spreads but there was some misses but you can normally

and then they're in the middle of a transition from I don't know I'm not 100% sure I don't know I don't ask enough questions that actually are meaningful because I'm coming in there. Hey, how you doing? You look good.

All right. Hey, how you doing? Hey, how's everybody? All right. Good to see you. And then I'm moving. Okay. That's because I land, I do my thing and go.

But we have noticed there has been a little bit different. So every question we've asked are in the middle of a transition period or whatever. Yesterday was a little bit better. We're back almost. We're back almost. Yesterday was good. Last couple of weeks though. I're back almost. Yesterday was good. Last couple weeks, though. I mean, normally the routine was land, go see Michael Cole.

Hey, is there anything I got to do or no? No. That's normally the answer. So then I go to catering. Then I get the beard done, makeup, and then we're live. So it's like there's not a lot of fuckery. Few weeks into catering, we almost had to cut it out of the entire routine. Oh, jeez.

That bad. We almost had to cut it out of the full routine there. Yeah. We walked in this one room, and we're like, man, I couldn't even imagine if we're here all day. I couldn't even imagine. But it's back. It's back.

It's back. It's back. It's back. It's coming back. Here we go. I believe it's coming back. Or is Vince trying to get you back to your roots? He thinks everybody's spoiled, so go back to...

I think there was a couple things that happened. I don't know enough. I don't know enough. I think there was potentially a couple things that happened. Why do you say it's going around the internet? It's like a known thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything that happens at WWE is something on the internet.

It's like a Randy Moss situation. Where he's like, you know, I used to eat this shit before I got money. Was it one of those? No, no. It was like super healthy shit, actually. There for a bit. Like, I think... You grow the wings.

No, no, no. It was like grow chicken. It was i think like all the wings like no no no no it was like it was like grow chicken it was like super all the healthy stuff when the catering used to be like just like this wide range but it's still good food it's not like they're feeding you garbage it's healthier yes it's all the only thing he's trying to send a message like hey guys tighten it up i don't think it i don't know how it all came to be i think it's much larger though i think there's because they're in the middle of a transition, I believe, to a new – something happened. Something happened.

Not, hey, everybody's getting a little loose in the cage situation? No, no, no. That was not the case. But a lot of these – because you've got to remember how many people are there. It's not just the wrestlers. You know what I mean? You've got like – Production. Roadies, camera people, production people.

Those guys just get pizza, though, right? Most of the time. So that's interesting. Blue collar. Yeah, because yesterday I had to go to the production office for the tickets for AJ and Sam. And that was my first time in the production office. And I walked in there and there was like eight pizzas on the table. Oh, yeah.

Whoa, whoa. And it was a bunch of people that I do get along with in there. And I was like, this is where you guys hang out all day or whatever? They're like, yeah, this is the place to be or whatever. I'm like, you guys got fucking pizza in here? I've caught myself in the inner circle before. Yeah, they're like, every week we have all the local, the place to be or whatever. I'm like, you guys got fucking pizza in here? I've caught myself in the inner circle before. Yeah, they're like, every week we have all the local, the best food locally or whatever in here.

And I'm like, yo, motherfucker's going to have me in here. See you next week. I am coming by, I think. It was awesome. So there was food in the building. I think you had to find it there, but it does seem like it's getting all the way back. Go ahead.

At any point were you nervous if Axl was going to jump the barricade and start wrestling? So Axl is a little bit of a loose cannon, huh? I mean, this kid, I was around him there for that weekend when you had that cult party out there, and he was definitely a maniac, and he screamed butt cheeks to me, I think, numerous times. He's a loose cannon out there. He has to love wrestling, I assume, that kid.

Oh, he was locked in. My wife got many pictures of him, especially when Charlotte Flair was wrestling Alexa Bliss. This dude was not, no matter what I did, I couldn't get his attention. He was sitting on my lap, too. I'm like, all right, well, we'll see what this goes. I think he bit Sam a few times, too. Tell her I'm sorry.

Oh, yeah, so I heard he's a biter. I heard he's a biter. He thinks he's hilarious. Like, he thinks he's funny. He wants her to bite him back, and then it's like a game. Do you have to tell him? Like, how do you get a human out of a biting face? Is that even possible?

Hey, if you figured out, let me know. Do a chew toy. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, because when Chuck was chewing on stuff, we gave him. We had to find the right one, but that right squeak, you know, he really enjoyed it. He started chewing on that. So maybe Axel just needs to find the right tone of a chew toy. If you put apple cider vinegar on yourself and then have him bite it, and he goes.

Oh, yeah. Terrible. Something that tastes terrible. Like the kids that bite their nails their nails and you got to put that nasty tasting garbage on it yeah okay we'll code his whole body in that and everyone else's smart okay cool there's a lot of protocols these days that can just be one that you add to the hawk residence so sorry to interrupt but i want to let you know that if you're not gambling with Fandle, you're wrong. Okay. Fandle Sportsbook is available in seven states, I believe at this point, six, seven, eight. You get it. If you're not gambling with Fandle Sportsbook though, you're completely wrong.

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Tonight, they're down in Dallas, Philadelphia. Dallas Cowboys. NFC East matchup that is going to have a lot of things on the line. Are the Dallas Cowboys going to put their foot on the throat of the NFC East? Big Dak Prescott is back for the Dallas Cowboys after a cramp injury took him out last year. Mike McCarthy in his second year. Watermelons are getting busted open nights before games.

Ezekiel Elliott, Tony Pollard. Pollard is also there. And obviously the Philadelphia Eagles have been a little hit or miss. How do you see this thing going? AJ Hawk, who is 11-3 against the spread going into tonight's game. Three and a half now. Well, so you say it's minus three and a half for the Cowboys right now? Yep.

I still like the Cowboys to win and cover. I think the Cowboys got some momentum. I think they're feeling pretty good. They need to get out to a fast start, but I think the Cowboys do it. Me as well. The Hammerdown boys will have their takes 15 minutes after this show ends. We both like the Dallas Cowboys minus three and a half. Hate to break it to you, AJ.

That 11-3 probably won't be 11-4. Whoa. Why? Because me and you are on the same side? No, because I'm 8-7 right now, and it feels like, you know, I was so low. I'm going to have to get probably back to 500 first, and then I got to go. I mean, we're just doing that. Super boost hit, so I'm all good.

It's a whale of a play. That's millions of dollars of a play. So I'm pretty pumped up about that one. But I just, I like the Cowboys, but for some reason, you know, I wanted to fade myself, go with the Eagles. I mean, I'm already at that point of the season, which isn't good. I need to get out of my own head. If you like it, I like it.

Let's go to some overreaction from around Twitter to close up this show ivan canfield says i think it's time to take ben up to the glue factory this guy stinks hashtag pms overreaction monday a lot of people saying that aj i mean like just yeah i creative way to tell him he should be dead i guess i mean isn't this a little bit harsh i think think it's definitely overreaction. But, I mean, is this what – how many people share this same feeling towards Ben? A lot of people in Pittsburgh are saying similar things. I don't think they're saying he needs to go work at a glue factory where he was obviously –

They just forget about all the great that he has done, though. They forget about all the greatness. What have you done for me today? Boom. World that we live in. Ben Roethlisberger can still bounce back, but it does feel like Steelers fans are turning quickly. What AJ just said is actually a major concern in my head

this morning. It was like, what happens if people forget all he did for this team? They won't. They won't. They won't. As long as he doesn't go to commentary and just completely... Or Tampa. Let's go to another overreaction here. Let's go to... Or Denver. Let's go to Christian Schenbechler at PhantomOgre303.

Hashtag PMS overreaction Monday. The Colts may not get past six wins this year. Two versus the Texans. They always play us tough. Two versus the Jags. One versus the Jets. And we may get lucky enough to beat the Dolphins next week with Jacoby Brissett coming back.

I'm not sure. Our best QB option is injury prone, and everyone else is playing like the season's already lost. Oh, Christian. All right, let's go to the next one. That's not great, obviously. The Colts do. Is that an overreaction?

All right. Texans athletic trainer, I think, ATX. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of the Colts. Not to overreact, but did Nick Casario really draft the best rookie quarterback in the class in the third round? Davis Mills had the best QBR in the rookie class in his first start on a short week and against the best defense. He still stunk, though. Yeah, he's still stunk.

I mean, we can rely on the QBR, but he's only going to get better, hopefully, as Tyrod Taylor heals back with that hamstring. The Houston Texans, I would love to play Davis Mills if that previous record that was given on that last week is going to be real because the Texans always play us tough. Let's go to the next one here. At ZJ Wood 2, B2B champs. They won a couple things back to

back, obviously. The Dolphins are a bottom five team in the league and have no idea how to draft. Ten wins last season was a fluke, and no team has regressed more than them. Hashtag PMS overreaction Monday. That's a Dolphins fan, huh, Gumpy? Clearly. It's a classic overreaction. Well, that's what

we're doing here. Let's go to the next one. Classic overreaction. Gumpy, his tweet says, Jets are going 0-17. What is this all about? I watched this whole game yesterday. This team stinks. Oh, so this is not an overreaction.

No, this might be true, my friend. Okay, and obviously the last one here. It's hard to go 0-17. You'll fall into a win somewhere. At B2, Dullo. I'll tell you what, I was on a team that almost went 0-16 and there was not a we'll fall into a win thing anywhere near, it seems like. Once that bad luck starts going, Matt Nagy sucks. He literally thinks Bear Down means your QB should be laying on the ground.

Bet the house on MCDC next week, beating the piss out of the Bears. I will not watch another Bears game until Nagy is fired. Pray Fields doesn't die on the field. Hashtag PMS overreaction Monday. And that's what today was all about. Andrew does it perfectly. You're allowed to lose your mind. You're allowed to have crazy thoughts. But by tomorrow, Aaron Rogers Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday, you got to get your mind back in the right spot because we have another NFL week coming. But week three ends tonight as the Dallas Cowboys cover three and a half at home against the Eagles. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes. We're back tomorrow with an Aaron Rodgers Tuesday.

Let's finish out week three with a beautiful Monday night football game tonight. We're right in the meat of it for football. We win the Ryder Cup. There's some baseball, I guess, happening. We're in the middle of it for football. We win the Ryder Cup. There's some baseball, I guess, happening. We're in the middle of the NFL. It's a great time to be alive. Can't thank you enough for rocking with us and laughing with us. Hashtag endapodsquad.

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