The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 524 - Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Week 7, Monday Night Football Recap With AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 26, 2021

On today's show, Pat, AJ, and the boys chat about last night's Monday Night Football game and the Manning Cast making their anticipated return, how bad of a football game it was, the Seahawks really s...truggling without Russell Wilson, whether or not Jameis Winston is the long term answer in New Orleans, Davanate Adams potentially missing Thursday Night Football due to Covid, and everything else going on around the league as they wrap up week 7 and look ahead to week 8. Joining the program off a big win against the Washington Football Team, on a work day before a huge Thursday Night game against the Arizona Cardinals, is the creator of the Aaron Rodgers Bookclub, Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Pat, Aaron, and AJ chat about another big win to go to 6-1, what they'll have to do Thursday Night without Davante Adams against a tough Cardinals defense, why he's having so much fun, what the next book in the Aaron Rodgers Bookclub is, and much more (40:54-1:03:51). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, it is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, October 26, 2021, years after zero. Can't thank you enough for joining us. Aaron stops by for a nice conversation just a couple days before their Thursday night football matchup against the Arizona Cardinals. COVID has shown up in a bad way for the Green Bay Packers. Hopefully they'll be able to get through that in the convo with Aaron is as enlightening as it is every week. I can't thank him enough for his time. AJ's here. The boys are fantastic and all of you choosing and allowing us to penetrate your ear holes is so cool. If you like the show by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Let's get to it. Anytime you get a chance to chat with the reigning defending undisputed MVP
Starting point is 00:00:44 of the NFLfl and aaron rogers it's a good day he'll be joining us in a couple hours as will aj hawk we'll take your phone calls at 1-833-4-MAC-FE on the five hour energy phone line to hear what you're chit-chatting about and then we'll obviously talk for a pretty good length probably for the next 20-30 minutes about the manning cast is back. After a three-week siesta, a three-week vacation, Peyton Manning and Eli Manning were back on our television last night watching Monday Night Football game, and they had incredible guests. Marshawn Lynch obviously broke some FCC violations
Starting point is 00:01:16 and had a hell of a time in there. Sue Bird, great conversation with Sue Bird. Yeah. Great conversation with Sue Bird. It was very awkward, But it was good. Ty Schmidt there said a little bit awkward at the points in there. I think all the conversations could ring true that way, especially even Drew Brees
Starting point is 00:01:31 in the end there, which I assume... The technology of the Manning cast is something that I thought maybe we'd be able to tighten up a little bit over the three-week break. Yeah. Because the lag is real. because they're sending the feed uh to peyton and eli individually then they're sending that feed to whoever the
Starting point is 00:01:52 guest is then they're sending that entire feed back to connecticut then they're sending that out to espn too so in doing that although things move fast on the internet hey quick yeah hey ask fatch things move fast on the internet but it is not just something that just teleports there is a little bit of a lag and when you're talking about trying to have a conversation that lag is going to potentially catch up especially if you can't catch a rhythm with each other i think what peyton and tom brady and eli took you know a little bit of a shot here because I tweeted that I enjoyed watching Peyton Manning and Tom Brady watch football together. Eli, also awesome. But two of the top 100 players in the history of the game,
Starting point is 00:02:32 two of the greatest of all time chit-chatting, and we know that they're friends behind the scenes. I think there was a much better chemistry with Tom, Peyton, and Eli because they've met each other. And I think Tom even said getting a chance to hang out with Peyton and Eli, whatever. So I think they were able to sit back and get into a conversation together. Marshawn even had to do the dance a little bit.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Sue Bird, there was a couple good conversation pieces, but it was a little bit there. Drew Brees dancing, but they're going to have to figure that out because it is an incredible thing to learn about the game, to learn about some incredible guests. I mean, their lineup has been unbelievable, but they're going to have to figure out that little bit of a lagginess and move forward.
Starting point is 00:03:07 But other than that, other than Marshall and Shane, oh, what the fuck? Yeah. And that was awesome. Other than Marshall and then Shane, that's what you got two hands for. And a couple other things in conversation. And Tom Brady burying defensive players as a whole. You walk into a defensive meeting room, and it only takes about two minutes to realize,
Starting point is 00:03:27 oh, this is why these guys don't play on the offensive side of the bar. It's like a dog chasing a car, basically, is how he described defensive players. That was fantastic. Tom Brady chit-chatting about the guy getting a Bitcoin now via his Bitcoin crypto trading company, FTX, and everything. That was awesome to hear. Him watch film live on ESPN2, Tom Brady, without, you know, it felt like he forgot he was on TV a little bit because they're playing the Saints in six days.
Starting point is 00:03:54 So they play the team that was on Monday Night Manning last night. They're watching that. They zoomed out from like a aerial shot and it was the Saints defense or whatever. And previously in the game, Tom Brady had said, oh, that's Adebo, rookie from Stanford. I was studying him today, he said.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Okay, so Adebo just found out, by the way, he's a rookie. Tom Brady was studying him today. That had to be quite a moment when people were texting Adebo, hey, just a heads up, Tom Brady was studying you today. And then whenever they zoomed out and they had an aerial shot of that Saints defense, you saw Tom almost start breaking down what the Saints defense was doing not that he doesn't know them already he's played them numerous times but new players he started even like playing with his hands almost I think he completely and then there was a moment where I think he even was like
Starting point is 00:04:38 oh shit I am I am on television right now it was cool to kind of catch those brief moments of Tom Brady, how he would watch film, Peyton Manning and him interacting. Eli obviously had a much better show last night, I think, than he's ever had. He was hilarious. But other than those moments that were pretty fantastic, Monday Night Football fucking stunk last night. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It was bad. That was a very boring game. Terrible. Now, obviously, Dixon, anytime he punts, it's going to be electrifying. And Blake Gilligan, the young punter out of Penn State who was on injured reserve last year for the Saints, has been an absolute stud. And obviously, Brian Johnson gets a chance to hit a game winner,
Starting point is 00:05:17 essentially, with a minute something left for the Saints in terrible weather in front of an electric atmosphere. But that game stunk. I mean, who knows what the future looks like for the Saints? Is Jameis Winston a guy? Saints in terrible weather in front of an electric atmosphere. But that game stunk. I mean, who knows what the future looks like for the Saints? Is Jameis Winston the guy? Is Sean Payton going to say, this is our guy going forward? Are they going to potentially be in the sweepstakes for a new quarterback?
Starting point is 00:05:37 Are we way too early to even be thinking about that? Yes. But after watching that terrible football game, it's hard not to be like, oh, both these teams stink. Yeah. And now, granted, without Russell Wilson, you're a much different team. And I think Geno Smith made some great plays. Some awesome plays where you're like, all right, what's going on? But it shouldn't just be that.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I think overall it was just bad football. And to talk to us about bad football is a man that absolutely loves it, AtToneDiggs. Did you hammer the under? The under was like 40.5 points, I think. Backup quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks. Bomb cyclone potentially still in effect. Weather's bad. It is Monday night
Starting point is 00:06:07 football game. Did you go under on that? And did you enjoy watching that football game last night? I don't think anybody on earth enjoyed that football game. It was a great football game. I did not take the under. The game the night before scared me away on the rainy under, so I
Starting point is 00:06:23 didn't touch the under. Just because I thought the Seattle Seahawks defense was too bad to take an under. They played okay last night, or Jameis didn't play good. I'll say Geno Smith stinks. He's so bad. That's West Virginia's fight. Pat White's my guy. That's a West Virginia guy starting Monday night football, Sunday night football.
Starting point is 00:06:44 What are you talking about, man? That was awesome. Six, seven years. It just wasn't good. Did the Manicast talk about Russ having to do his two-minute thing again? So they did not even talk about that, but it was a fascinating thing because we didn't see it. We didn't see it on the telecast.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I don't think they showed it, and maybe they didn't. I was just Peyton and Eli and them were talking or whatever, and I didn't get it. It's hard to follow the game, really. Very hard to follow the game. If the game is boring, it is hard not to just be like, okay. Tom Brady's wearing a backwards hat speaking over here. It is hard to pay attention there.
Starting point is 00:07:13 So I don't know if they showed it, but it did look like a less enthused two-minute drill. But Russell Wilson was up on the Seattle, what's that thing? The Space Needle. Boom. With Sierra before the game. Sierra posted something. He rented out the The Space Needle. Boom. With Sierra before the game. Sierra posted something. He rented out the entire Space Needle. She had a video
Starting point is 00:07:30 and it was like rose petals, flowers down everywhere. She posted, maybe her birthday. That was two hours before the game, so maybe she was saving it from another day. Maybe they didn't do that day, but I think it went from Space Needle to potential faux two-minute drill right to the sidelines there, and it didn't do that today. But I think he went from space needle to potential faux two-minute drill
Starting point is 00:07:45 right to the sidelines there. And he didn't have as much zest as the first time. This guy's just trying to stay with it. He's never missed a game before. He doesn't want to lose it. You know, when those imaginary defenders bite on a ball, it's nice to get a good pump fake in there and go over the top because if he gets back into the game and there is a real defender that does that,
Starting point is 00:08:01 he's going to be prepared. He's not going to be out of it. It ain't going to be like a little bit of a, oh, I got to find my rhythm, find my chemistry again. No, no. He's doing full games before the game, mentally. And that is the reason why Russell Wilson is Russell Wilson, because he's doing Sierra birthday parties in the Space Needle. Then he's doing fake-ass games.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Then he's walking through the whole game. That is what Russell Wilson does that we can't do. And that's why Russell Wilson is Russell Wilson at Boston Corner. Yeah, mental reps are important, but this guy's a fucking con. Whoa! No, no, no, we changed that. Remember? What happens if he does one of these fake passes and his finger just moves a little and then all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:08:31 hold on, Russ, you're out for six more weeks. I know you're a great healer. So you care about him too much. Exactly. I want him back. I don't want to watch Geno Smith duff around and, you know, take two sacks on a game-winning drive with the game on the line. I don't want to do that anymore.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I want to watch Russ cook, and I definitely think something that needs to be brought to light is Clyde Christensen took it on the shins last night. We were going to get to Clyde Christensen, obviously. Let's talk about the game, though, because you buried Russell Wilson. We are a Russell Wilson, pro-Russell Wilson team. I've turned. Because of Monday Night Man.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I want him back. That's my point. You don't. What about the mental reps? And that is his edge over everything. You don't think that he worries about the mental reps a lot more than he worries about maybe his finger moving from a fake pass down the sideline to DK Metcalf. I wonder if he's so good at visualization that he actually throws it in his eyes.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Like he actually gets the emotions. Oh, my God. DK is about to fucking catch it. Has there been any incompletions i don't know i don't know how deep yeah no way zero incompletions scored on both drives confirmed although jamis was in the middle playing middle linebacker i don't know if you saw that and he ran to the side and almost did pick the ball off james winston's fascinating isn't he he is a fascinating fat he got into it with a wide receiver on the sideline, which I kind of like, by the way, for a quarterback to take that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:09:49 But then you better go out and make a lot of plays afterwards. Now, he is – you know, he's completed a lot of passes in this league. Oh, yeah. He's a character for a lot of yards in this league. But I do believe he is a character. I think James Winston is a character. I think he knows he's a character. I think he is probably relatively
Starting point is 00:10:06 hilarious in real life if you were around him. It seems like his workouts are absurd. The things that I hear him say are absurd. But he feels like he's always Jameis, which I guess I can respect. But the Saints have to be thinking, is this going to be our answer going forward? We just got back from Drew Brees, who was on the fourth quarter of the Manning cast. A little
Starting point is 00:10:21 uncomfortable, a little awkward. I don't think Peyton or Eli saw the kids in the shot, by the way. A lot of people talking about Peyton not caring about Drew little uncomfortable a little awkward I don't think Peyton or Eli saw the kids in the shot by the way a lot of people talking about Peyton not caring about Drew Breeze's kids I don't think that's accurate at all no I don't think Peyton knew that Drew was going to potentially have his kids on he was looking at a different screen because he's got 14 in front of him there but they come from Drew who on Sunday night football they'll run clips and Drew's like that definitely should have thrown it here instead of there instead it's a 14 point swing because this isn't happening that guy is no longer the quarterback and Peyton was asking
Starting point is 00:10:49 him about is the offense the same he goes I guess it's the same but it looks very different I think that's because the way Drew Brees would process it and the plays that Drew Brees would make maybe would be vastly different than what Jameis would do which is why the offense looks so much different last year as opposed to this year maybe it's growing pains between Sean Pey than what Jameis would do, which is why the offense looks so much different last year as opposed to this year. Maybe it's growing pains between Sean Payton and Jameis that it hasn't been as efficient. They won a game in Seattle, which is huge, against a backup quarterback, which is nice. But I don't know how, I don't know. And I assume Sean Payton's still like, I don't know what the fuck we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Because the thought was maybe Taysom Hill was going to be the quarterback. Jameis wins the job. Taysom was nowhere near ready. I don't think we the fuck we're going to do because the thought was maybe Taysom Hill was going to be the quarterback. Jameis wins the job. Taysom was nowhere near ready, I don't think, that we saw. Who knows? Is Jameis the guy going forward down there? That's a fascinating question. And if he isn't, what is Sean Payton going to do? You think he's going to draft a young and build?
Starting point is 00:11:39 I doubt it at this stage. He's going to go get a veteran. He's going to go try to get anybody, I think, if Jameis isn't the guy. And those are the conversations that have to be had after a terrible football game in the middle of a bomb cycle and whenever the whole world's watching you look at what these guys are making too like there's no way you can give james 30 35 million dollars a year you just can't do it i mean they're talking about baker mayfield they don't know and like he he looks like brett farve compared j James is just a goofball. He's just such a goofball.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And I don't know. It is genuine. He's not putting on an act or anything. But I think he's proven that he's good enough to come in and win you a game or two. But you can't rely on that guy to win you a Super Bowl. Hey, how about him running last night? He was getting loose early. He also had the fours up going into the fourth quarter, which I've never seen an NFL player do.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Both of them. Love that. Both of them. Love that. Both of them. Which is almost a mockery of it, which is why I almost appreciate it even more because he's always that. As soon as I saw him do that on the screen, I was like, okay, so he's mocking the fourth quarter thing. Is he?
Starting point is 00:12:37 Yeah, I don't know. He had to be. I don't know. Because remember the look to your man on your left, look to your man on your right. Yeah, he was mocking that, I think. I think we're misreading this entire thing. I think he's just an absolute goof.
Starting point is 00:12:49 No way. I can't tell. What I wanted all to do was look to the man to your left. And Jameis literally goes – and he looked to your man to your right and he looks him. Look him in the eye and he goes – he had to be mocking that person. I don't know. Jameis has to be mocking him. He thought the Eaton W's thing was like the coolest thing ever,
Starting point is 00:13:07 and then guys had to be like, Jameis, don't ever fucking do that again. What if Jameis is mocking all of these things? What if he's mocking the pregame speech? What if he's just doing skits on all these things and we have no idea? Because there's no way that he was actually genuine when he looked to his right and looked to his left, tried to look into his eyes. Two fourth quarters, no way. Is this still happening as an adult?
Starting point is 00:13:27 I don't know. He has to be mocking it all. If he's mocking it, give him $50 million and put him in the next Adam Sandler movie. And in the Hall of Fame. And in the Hall of Fame right away. Immediately. And also to Ty's point about the $30 million, if he's more so on a team-friendly contract,
Starting point is 00:13:42 do you think that kind of opens it up a little bit? He said it was humbling. I listened to an interview that he gave about the $1 million deal with New Orleans after leaving Tampa Bay and it being humbling. I think he was talking to Alex Smith. And Alex Smith has a great house. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was like a Cliff Kingsbury-type shot of Alex Smith's Zoom call or FaceTime with Jameis Winston on a TV.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Jameis was sitting in the back of a room, just standard room. Alex Smith was in what appeared to be a living room that was right on the oceanfront maybe. Damn. It was gorgeous. But listening to Alex Smith talk about it being number one overall and then moving on from the team and going somewhere else, which is what Jameis did.
Starting point is 00:14:19 He had to move on and go somewhere else. He was listening to Jameis talk about how humbling it was. He got that million-dollar deal to be a backup quarterback, and then he got to learn from Drew. And then Drew Brees said that Jameis would literally be asking 20 questions a day, like 20, 20 questions a day. And he got his own routine and his own thing. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I just think maybe he'd be a guy that would take a team-friendly deal. But Sean Payton is going to be the guy that's ultimately going to make the decision. And Sean Payton, is this what Sean wants to do going forward? That's going to be the conversation for the next, what, 10 weeks or whatever, of football for the New Orleans Saints, who get a win out of Seattle, which is huge. Big storyline, though, to your point. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning burying Clyde Christensen. Messed up.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Friend of the show, Clyde Christensen, actually told us about the popcorn that Tom Brady was chit-chatting about. That came on the plane ride home from the Hall of Fame. It was Tom's plane, I guess, and there was only this one particular. Caldy flour. Caldy flour popcorn. Yeah, Caldy flour popcorn. And he said it was the only thing that was that tasted anywhere
Starting point is 00:15:25 near good because Clyde is a regular human like all of us who enjoys food and he's on his plane they just had a hall of fame celebration he's flying back to Tampa and it's Tom's plane so tb12 is all over the place so the popcorn was the only thing and he I guess he did tell us he admitted he had 10 to 15 10 to 15 bags 10 to 15 bags. 10 to 15 bags. I'm so happy that made its way on to Monday Night Manning on the Manning cast. And I appreciate the fact that both of those men took time out of the show to say, hey, a guy that we both love is Clyde Christensen. Now, I mean, they did body shame.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Oh, yeah, big time. Messed up. Big time. They body shamed Clyde Christensen. Not cool. And, I mean, they talked about how he is nowhere near a TB12-type guy. He's not even smelling avocado ice cream. There is zero pliability in this guy.
Starting point is 00:16:11 But all you need to know about Clyde Christensen is he coached that guy, and he coached that guy, and he's coached Andrew Luck as well. So whenever you talk about who is potentially a guru in the quarterback game, who has been around the greats, who is potentially a guy who has more information on people that are a higher level than everybody else than maybe anybody else because he has personal relationships. He was coordinated for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:37 He did some other stuff. But just quarterback coach, you're basically an ally of Tom and Peyton and Andrew. And how do you motivate and how do you always be on call for them he's always been that right hand man almost for these greats i i like that his name got mentioned last night but he did he did get buried slaughtered oh yeah not fair i reach out to him for comment we have not heard back other than a statement that he is going to write a book and people need to watch it they're calling him a big fat stooge all over the air and they were laughing right in his face
Starting point is 00:17:09 so hard which by the way Clyde probably he probably was in bed and then he that guy's like 70 years old now damn I don't know how old he is but he's a lot older than anybody he's been coaching for like 30 40 years years. Great golfer still. Can still sling the pill around. Great athlete. He's 65 years old. Damn. He does not look like it at all.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But he got buried last night. Yeah, pretty bad. Manning Cass, I think it was good. I think it was good. Last night was for sure the worst one so far. Whoa! Absolutely. I thought it was going to get better.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah, still a fan of it. But why do they have such a reliance on having four guests? Because when you get a guest that either they're not that comfortable with or they don't know very well, it doesn't enhance the game at all. It's just awkward. They don't know when to speak. We're there because we want to hear Peyton and Eli. And when you get a guy like Tom or Russell in there,
Starting point is 00:18:05 like it's, it's incredible because I feel like they know him a little bit better and they're just there to kind of analyze and watch the game and what's going on when it's not, it's just super awkward. No one can ever really get their stuff in. And in those moments, like you'll watch for 25 minutes and be like,
Starting point is 00:18:20 Oh, what the fuck is happening in the game? I haven't been paying any attention. Yeah. And I think some of the reason why it's tough to watch the game is because some of the conversation is good like listening to florida tom speak last night in his backwards hat that was awesome yeah it's incredible and you could tell him and peyton had a relationship before they were comfortable so but i also think tom wasn't like scared of right like i think some
Starting point is 00:18:44 people have gone on. Like I think even LeBron is like a fan of Peyton. So when he went on there, maybe there's a little bit of a, I don't want to step in there. But when Marshawn, Marshawn was just going. Yeah. Marshawn was just going to be Marshawn. And you can put a camera on Marshawn at any time.
Starting point is 00:18:57 There's going to be moments that come out of it. They're like, yep, that's the most legendary human existing. And I've done an entire like five, six minutes on why Marshawn Lynch should be your favorite human on earth. The things that he has done and given back, the business savviness. Marshawn Lynch is awesome. Now, he did say he had three shots of Henny before he got on there last night. One for him, obviously.
Starting point is 00:19:18 One for big bro, and then one for little bro. Because he's an honorable man and wants to do that. But the whole thought of having to have guests just to have guests, I think they should do without that. It turns it into a podcast pretty much. Because you get the same canned questions because they don't really know each other. They don't have a pre- So it's like, I mean, again, you know, it's not Sue Bird's fault.
Starting point is 00:19:39 But, like, they go on and they're asking her these questions. And she's just like, I don't know. Like, I'm sorry. Which I think, by the way, I like Sue Bird a lot more after the Monday Night Manning. Yeah. Just for future reference. I don't know if I haven't heard. They showed some clips of her on the court.
Starting point is 00:19:55 She is. Coaching. She's Peyton Manning, basically. She is Peyton Manning of basketball at the WNBA, and I have a lot of that. But the chemistry of the conversation that makes a huge difference with the laggy tech thing is a real ordeal it is a very real ordeal that's why I was in a very lucky spot first of all the game was a blowout shout out to the Lions it was a it was a blowout I'm rather comfortable with the Mannings whether I should be or I
Starting point is 00:20:22 shouldn't be is up for a full other discussion but i know them pretty well so i was comfortable going in there and i have to deal with the tech bullshit every single day so i think i was very fortunate now granted some people hated my appearance on there and i completely understand and there were some things i wish i could have done different whatever the case but that is something that has to be taken into account whenever the person's coming on i think they should be prompted i think they should be told like hey when you speak you got to go if you if you go and then you stop and then you go then you stop then you go then you're you're double dutching the conversation the entire time not that we are experts on this
Starting point is 00:20:58 by the way i am not saying that we are experts on this we just happen to do it every single day and since we've been an internet company since the beginning we've had to deal with the tech and the zoom and the facetime and everything that is currently happening all over the place so you just got to go though i think and that's how they make that show better because i think at certain points too like when guests come on there like they don't really know what their role is like they don't know what they're supposed to be like you know yeah i mean you're comfortable and everything but you also knew like hey late in the game like i, I need to break. Like, there's a reason they had me on here.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah, exactly. I need to bring energy. Like, no one is really watching this for the game anymore. They're watching it for it. And then, granted, you know, like, last night it's a close game, but it's like the game stunk. It was terrible. And it just, like, even with Breeze, you know, you expected some good, like,
Starting point is 00:21:43 but it was the same deal with the Favre. He comes in, you get stepped on right away, and then it's just like, okay, well, it's their show, so I'm going to be patient and wait. But Peyton's just going to keep going. And then if there is that little hiccup, Eli thinks, okay, well, maybe I'll try to steer this a different way. Eli had his best show last night. He did. He was very good. And he was in the middle of a storm. He was watching a game on a fucking phone that that was lagged behind the lag that was going on.
Starting point is 00:22:10 He saw that. Oh, I actually him getting excited about the touchdown on his phone was a cool moment. The the. The best part. And this is not a knock on any of the guests, because I was a guest and I do appreciate it. The best part is Peyton getting genuinely pissed off about bad football. Yeah. Because I don't want to say he's a football snob,
Starting point is 00:22:37 but there's only a couple people on earth that have proven that they are allowed to be openly critical about bad offensive football. Peyton Manning's one of those people. Where if Peyton sees something, and he stood up at one point, they couldn't even zoom out because he was so disgusted. He was like, that was a bad series. He was like, the quick change, the turnover. Everybody talks about the defense not being ready, right?
Starting point is 00:23:00 The defense's job is to put the fire out whenever a turnover happens. Like, hey, defense, here we go. We need you to go make a stop for us what he was saying is something i never heard before actually the offense sometimes isn't ready for a quick change a turnover to get back on the field they might have been in the middle of some of their adjustments so they just kind of mail it in with a run another run and that's exactly what seattle did immediately following the turnover and as soon as they hand the ball off, he goes, ah. The first time he goes, ah. And then they do it, ah, again.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And then there's an incomplete pass or whatever. And it looked like he just wanted to say, all right, this fucking offense coordinator for Seattle needs to be fired. This is not NFL football. And whatever Geno is, we need to fix this as well. It was just a very interesting dynamic and with Gino there add on the fact that he he took Eli Manning's job at one point yeah and they were still you know they rarely bury the quarterback they try to talk about decisions that are made or
Starting point is 00:23:56 a player the way you know you hear some ex-players be like well the running back was trying to make the whole bigger whatever Peyton's like just it. Like, what does that guy even do? Like, that is how Peyton was at practice, by the way, too. Like, hey, listen, just catch the fucking ball and run down the field. You just, hey, this isn't that hard. You run right there. And it's not like there isn't any empathy in there. But listening to Peyton talk while watching a game, you can see exactly how he was almost
Starting point is 00:24:22 as the quarterback for a team, which is also the coach for the team, the GM for the team, and also the strength coach if he had to be. I mean, that is just watching him react to shit is almost the best part of it. And then Eli knowing what potentially will set Peyton off in trying to throw some shit in is also amazing part. So to your point,
Starting point is 00:24:43 I don't think we need guests just to have guests. Because we're potentially missing Peyton dissecting some offensive coordinator or some defensive coordinator that's doing something because he's trying to make somebody feel welcome on the show. And it's like, I understand that you're not a natural host. Peyton doesn't
Starting point is 00:25:02 care about these questions. I mean, I'm sure he's excited to hear the answers, but he's more, I'm into the football, and we miss out on some of those moments, I think. Further to those points, maybe a little bit deeper thinking needs to go into who the guests are, too, because bringing Drew on, I get the thought of, oh, the Saints are playing, let's get Drew in here.
Starting point is 00:25:19 He's played the Seahawks multiple times, but he's not going to be critical of Jameis. Well, I don't think anybody wants anybody to be critical. No, no, no. But you could see if he felt awkward, I think, because they asked him about the offense and why it's different, it felt like he didn't want to bury Jameis and he was trying to dance around that.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It's real, though, because Drew was probably like a play would happen. And for those, I got a chance to be on it, obviously. So you look at your screen or whatever and this whole thing is the game basically so it's like the program and then the guests are just like right here so you have the game on because i was wondering if i'm watching the game on my tv is it behind right and it was by the way this one was ahead of what you were seeing what i was seeing on TV. So you are acting because then the delay from that shot goes to ESPN2. So you're watching it live on the screen or whatever. It did seem like there was a couple times where Drew was watching it
Starting point is 00:26:14 and there was about seven different decisions he would have made in one particular play than what Jameis did in the exact same offense that looked much better whenever he was playing quarterback than what he was. Also, it was disappointing. Drew is a quarterback. He was one of the best quarterbacks of all time. And Peyton asked him, how would you attack this Saints defense right now?
Starting point is 00:26:35 And all he said was, I'd throw it to DK Metcalf. And maybe that's the right answer, but, like, he could have given a better answer as far as his football mind than I would throw it to DK Metcalf. Well, and on that point, this is whyyton and tom having a relationship is so good because peyton told a story about how tony dungy did an interview he's like here's how you beat peyton manning's offense that we are currently running and peyton was like tony what do we even what are we even doing so now we gotta change things up he said Tom, I asked you this question. How do you stop the Bucs offense? And Tom goes, I like it whenever, you know, get up in our face, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:10 One-on-one. Yeah, he goes man-to-man. That's the only way you're going to stop the guys. You know, you've got to get up. That was a funny moment where you knew Tom and Peyton were exactly on the same page. Yeah. You know, and that's like when Drew doesn't go in or dive in, I don't know if Drew's like thinking like, oh, am i going to set myself up for a gotcha moment here or not it didn't feel
Starting point is 00:27:29 like that at all with some of the people that i think peyton has had a great relationship with where they're just flying in there but it's it is a podcast that's happening while a game is also there as a potential distraction or conversation piece i just think that should become more of uh uh the focus in watching you know one of the goats lose his mind to bad football and that game last night was filled with it i mean that game last night was absolutely filled i don't know if i want if i should say that they shouldn't have non-nfl guests on there because there could still be some good conversations if there are guys who are close enough with but i feel like it needs to be a companion piece to the game because
Starting point is 00:28:05 when it's not a football guest it really does feel like they're just taking a break from the game and they're doing and then whatever something will happen and peyton will kind of get excited and try to like but the the people just don't really know how to like they're obviously not in the same wavelength as peyton is watching the game so it's it it if it's not a companion piece to the game it does feel like it just kind of falls by the wayside and by the way last night's monday night football game was a perfect game for the manning cast yeah yeah so that's why the tom brady segments right and you know the the marshawn lynch clips and then some of sue bird i thought was you know i learned about sue bird during you know i didn't expect to learn about sue bird in the middle of watching monday night football you
Starting point is 00:28:43 know it's kind of i didn't expect that to be a thing, but that was nice. And there was a couple moments with Drew, but he was very, very, very tight whenever he was talking. I think it's because his relationship with Sean Payton probably and the Saints as a whole and the city of New Orleans. Even though the mayor fancies Russell
Starting point is 00:29:00 Wilson. You remember that? Oh, yeah. That was when Drew was pushing those sleds. I don't know if I'm done yet. Yeah, he's pushing those sleds all the way around. Personal records. Yeah, new PR. No, not just personal records. Gym records. Course records. Yeah, course records. Yeah. City records. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:15 But I think he has such a tight relationship, he didn't want to say anything about potentially, you know, he won. Like, there was a moment last night where they asked Drew about the protections and the offense and who calls the protections and sliding protection and whatnot. And Drew said, I always called them when it was clear last night the center was calling them. Kamara missed a block. Jameis got sacked.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And it just kind of made Jameis look bad because Drew was like, from the moment I got there with Sean Payton, I called the protection. But also in that conversation, Payton and Drew said like that they felt like that was a part of their process, like that was a part of it. So I think they did give an out that like not all quarterbacks do that. It was was a part of their process, like that was a part of it. So I think they did give an out that not all quarterbacks do that. It was just a part of what they do. But I do recall the nickel, I believe, came, and Kamara was stuck on where the tackle was or whatever and didn't get over right immediately after that. But that's a part of the Monday Night Manning cast that is great
Starting point is 00:30:02 because they start talking about the cover two and who's this and this person's doing this and the different defenses. It's just like a different level of football education. And then it all gets halted almost. Right, yeah. Breeze did give like a what are we doing on one of the deep balls from Jameis in the red zone. And then Peyton, when Geno Smith was calling timeouts
Starting point is 00:30:22 on like second and third down, was losing his mind. He said he was more pissed about that than the actual bad football Geno was was calling timeouts on second and third down, was losing his mind. He said he was more pissed about that than the actual bad football Geno was displaying on the field. Well, that's a part of it, though. That is bad football. Yeah, yeah. So that's how I would love to see, you know, when Mike McCarthy, Big Mike,
Starting point is 00:30:36 was making all those incredible football decisions with his timeouts and when he was kicking. I wish there would have been a Manning cast alongside that because Peyton might have flipped his fucking chair. Peyton might have, this fucking guy. My. This guy even though, this is the most, it looks like Peyton is so upset with how much they're disrespecting football
Starting point is 00:30:54 with what they're doing. He just can't take it. You know, just can't take. Like, Mike, we're fucking kicking the ball with 30 seconds left. What the fuck are we doing? We need more of that on us. Yeah, and his kids team, undefeated. He did sneak that in there while Brady was on. I'm sure
Starting point is 00:31:08 that team's a very tight ship over there. I got a text maybe once from Archie Manning, and it was a picture of Peyton coaching up his kid's flag football. And the kid had a full sleeve. Oh, man. The kid had a full play sheet
Starting point is 00:31:24 in his thing. And he was like, we're teaching him young down here, Pat. Come see us. And it was a full play yeah play sheet in his thing he was like we're teaching him young down here pat come see us and it was a full they're they're making checks they're making checks insane that is the thing about arch manning so arch manning is faster than every other manning he seems to have the same exact ability to throw the ball as every other manning which is an accurate and timing and everything like that but also he has been taught by not just archie who obviously grew up teaching coop and and eli and peyton and they were in the football world so they grew but now you got literally two of the biggest i don't want to say peyton's like i hate saying football snob but pe Peyton does not like bad football. Yeah. Think about Arch having uncle Peyton, uncle Eli, grandpa Archie and Coop knows a lot about
Starting point is 00:32:13 football. He's been into there as well. Imagine just the questions and the conversations and the things to look for. If Peyton's putting a play sleeve on like an eight year old, think about what Arch Manning has been doing his entire life i bet you dissecting high school defenses and we talked to uh todd haley todd haley was a high school offense coordinator down florida and he said these high school teams were in one coverage it's it's very simple they just kill everybody arch manning has like i bet and i don't know i've never talked to him i bet his football iq is just so fucking high which is why this arch watch is exactly what it is and i assume with your
Starting point is 00:32:52 uncles being peyton and eli and your grandpa being archie some people would think maybe he'd be entitled i bet that is pretty humbling to be in the so it's almost like a perfect storm where he can't be arrogant because he's nowhere near what any of his uncles have been or his grandpa yet. He can't be dumb because if he did play bad football, they would probably make them run around the house for fucking ever in there. And it seems like he can't, you know, I don't think he can.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I don't think he'll flare out because like the motivation, the drop, like everything's going to be in there. It's almost like we're getting a chance to watch this arch and it's being broadcasted just like how lebron was but now it's with social media and how zion was you know zion was getting pushed this arch push the more and more i watch peyton watch football think about old arch at uncle peyton's house watching football and just the amount of information that is just getting sent to him ever since he was fucking probably four years old. Now he's 17,
Starting point is 00:33:50 18 or whatever. He's starting to learn and more and grow and more. He's in the era of the new offenses as well as also having the Peyton and Koop and Eli and Archie mindset. I mean, he might be the fucking... Let's get him a West Virginia. So what you're saying is as long as he doesn't eat 1,000 beignets a day,
Starting point is 00:34:07 he's going to be fine. That was a shot at Zion. Zion did not. Oh. Zion's bench press. True. Zion's bench press is more a player in the history of basketball. I'm sure he is.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Let's get to a break. He should. Shaq got better when he got bigger. Not that big. Shaq was what? 7'2"? Yeah. Shaq was always really good.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Well. Well, I mean, Zion's not 7'4", but he's become a big body. Yeah, he's thick. Listen, the only thing we need to worry about is the shoes being able to keep up with how explosive Zion is. Explosive? Or how about his knees supporting the 450 pounds that he's lugging around? What was that? He's the heaviest guy in the NBA. Get it together, Zion.
Starting point is 00:34:44 We want to watch you play, dude. Whoa. God. After Shaq's third title, he weighed 395 pounds. 7'2", though. That's the big deal. Are we counting ships or not? After his third title.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Are we counting rings or not? Not his third season. Who's he on a team with? Please. Who's he on a team with? Please read off that team that he was with after that third championship. He weighed 395. He was dominant at the magic too yeah absolutely the team zion has is terrible but you know he isn't seven two and he's not traquilo neil okay he's six nine and he's cut down on just a little
Starting point is 00:35:17 bit just a little he needs to lose 45 pounds yeah he can't be 350. He doesn't need to go to Smoothie King 15 times a day. It's the sponsor of the arena. He does eat because he's unhappy because the team he's on stinks. He's unhappy because he eats. Yeah, well, all right. Get him some of the cauliflower popcorn that he can't be having fucking zebra cakes and pointies. That's all muscle. Has it come out that Zion doesn't have just 300 pounds of muscle?
Starting point is 00:35:46 0% body fat? Have you guys heard this stat yet? It showed his gut. It was drooping down to his shin. If that was the case, the Pelicans training staff wouldn't be coming out saying, yeah, he's well over 300 pounds. We can't have this right now. Yeah, but the Pelicans training staff is part of the same staff
Starting point is 00:36:01 that said this guy can only play a minute and a half, a quarter his rookie year. Who knows who's saying what around here. They're the ones burying him saying, Jesus Christ, training staff is part of the same staff that said this guy could only play a minute and a half, a quarter his rookie year. So who knows who's saying what around here. Well, they're the ones burying him saying, hey, Jesus Christ, this guy's the fattest guy in the league. What are we going to do? No, we're not introducing him last either. We're introducing him fucking second.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Let's not act like the Pelicans have been the greatest organization. He needs like 15 minutes to sit down and catch his breath so he can't be the first. He could have played the entire game in his rookie year. He could have played. They were pulling him.
Starting point is 00:36:30 He was shooting 85%. They're on national TV because if they said we hate it, put him on the bench. Yeah, and they tried to reteach him how to run. I don't think that was very necessary either, but they still tried their best. This is his third coach in three years. Give the guy a break. Coach Kuhn.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Coach Kuhn, you are an asshole years. Give the guy a break. Coach Kidd. Coach Kidd? You are an asshole. Let's get to a break. I think it's a couch killer. Jeez, Zito. I'm with Zion. That's all it sounded like. Are his coaches telling him to eat 15 Whataburgers a day?
Starting point is 00:36:59 I don't think so. I think that's a decision he's making on his own. That makes him a good player. Also, I think it's only his second year, right? Can we just fucking roll's making on his own that makes him a good player also i think it's only a second year right can we just roll the ball on the court and let him play no it's a third year you didn't see him in the last year because they weren't on tv ever yeah yeah dan gundy last time you introduced him last year no it was two years before coven i thought it was 2020. covid no life bubble he was in bubble. Remember? That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Bubble wasn't. Wow. These years are just meshing together. They're all kind of good. This is a total waste of time. He hasn't played a minute this year. What is this? We're only three games in.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I'd like to be known. He doesn't deserve this. I agree. No. I want to see him perform. Oh, fuck off, Coach Killer. You guys need to relax on Zion. Zion's just trying to do whatever he can to get to another team.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Yes, and we just want him to be on the court, and we also want him to live a healthy life. We're not talking about fastball. This also could be a James Harden-type situation where he just had a massive pillow under his shirt and then got traded and was like, oh, actually, I'm not that fat. Yeah, actually, let me trim my hair real quick.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Oh, I lost 40 pounds. Oh, my God, I look much better fat. Yeah, actually, let me trim my hair real quick. Oh, yeah. Oh, I lost 40 pounds. Oh, my God. I look much better than you all of a sudden. Hey, that net situation is only growing. There was protests outside. Oh, yeah. Huh, Kyrie? I saw LeBron James told somebody, be humble.
Starting point is 00:38:16 He's going to beat the shit out of you. That's right. I like that. A little fire. A little fire. I like that. Bulls are one of the best teams in the league now. I'm defeated, baby.
Starting point is 00:38:23 All right. Three games in. Hell, yeah. Four games. Four games into an 82- the league. Undefeated, baby. All right, three games in. Hell yeah, four games. Four games into an 82-game season. Lamele Ball and Jordan's team, too, looking pretty strong. Caruso playing up there for Chicago? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Blowing it up. How come he's not on the graphic, then? He is on the graphic. No, they put him on that three-person. I don't know why. I don't think it's bullshit. Yeah, those are the three pillars, DeMar DeRose and Lonzo. How much did they pay Caruso?
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Starting point is 00:41:11 just two days from now that the world will be watching he will be without his number one weapon in Devontae Adams unless some magic happens in the COVID testing protocols joining us Aaron Rodgers. Yeah! What's up, dude? Hey, guys. Hey, it's good to see you at work right now, man. Yeah, man. It's Thursday night game, bro.
Starting point is 00:41:38 So, I don't even know if we should ask you about the last game because you're so focused on the next game, but we got to chat about a couple things that happened i heard you work woke up with a sore back on sunday is everything all right are you hurt what are you old what's going on saturday my back got a little bit tight like i don't want to blame the hotel at all i i will say that the antiquated procedure of staying the night at a hotel the night before a game. I mean, I've never been a fan of that. That makes no sense to me. I don't know what type of science there is that can justify that.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Now, look, 20 years ago, maybe before camera phones, if you're really worried you had a team that maybe was a little squirrely and liked to go out and party, maybe you'd be worried about guys going out the night before a game. But, I mean, this is 2021. There's a camera phone everywhere. Nobody's going out anywhere. No one wants to do it.
Starting point is 00:42:35 They just want to sleep in their own bed at night. I think that's the whole thing. You know, nobody's out there ripping cigs at the bar, hanging out with AJ, you know, pouring out drinks like he used to back in the day on Friday nights. Nobody's doing that anymore. But Sunday morning I still wasn't feeling great and I'm thankful for Nate and
Starting point is 00:42:54 Doc Zoli taking care of me and getting me through that game. We don't want to blame the bed though. Don't blame the bed. No, not blame the bed. He's not blaming the bed, but he's directly blaming the fact that he didn't sleep in his own bed. No, not blaming the bed. He's not blaming the bed, but he's directly blaming the fact that he didn't sleep in his own bed. So we'll move on from there. The Washington game, obviously a great game. Two-parter here, real quick.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Washington, I know we only have you for about 15-20 minutes, but how'd you feel you guys played? It looked pretty good to me. I mean, you guys offensively especially looked great. I think Lazard, different guys step up, which you know you'll need this week. Second part, Randall Cobb is probably going to have a big role this week. Does he still resent
Starting point is 00:43:27 you for uprooting his family from Houston? I love that you just want to throw a jab, brush it to another question, ask a two-parter, throw a jab at the end. That's classic AJ, man. You're just such a good media guy now, man. I love it. You've been bringing this guy up AJ, man. You're just such a good media guy now, man. I love it. You've been bringing this guy up
Starting point is 00:43:45 good, man. This is really... I enjoyed your questions yesterday. I watched a segment with Dana. That was pretty awesome. What a great interview that guy has. Who's wide open. He's meeting with Hasbulla this weekend. I don't know what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I'm excited about it. I'm excited about it. I'm happy with the way we played on Sunday at time. That's a good front. Obviously, Chase Young and Matis Sweat, our studs off the edge. We didn't handle it great, maybe starting the game. We had a nice two-minute drive, then a turnover, and next thing you know, we're up by two scores. Then we had some field position stuff. We got backed up and didn't hit anything, you know, and kind of stalled there on a couple possessions. You know, our punter for the brand has had a nice season. Good field-changing punts for us.
Starting point is 00:44:33 And we were able to get that thing to a three-score game there. And our defense played great, especially in the red zone. You know, hold them to, you know, I think they didn't score any touchdowns after they'd given up a touchdown. They got every possession leading up to that. So, fantastic job by the defense. They're going to be in a pinch this week without, you know, without the coordinator.
Starting point is 00:44:51 So it'll be interesting, you know, for them. Hopefully we get, you know, Preston back this week. Hopefully we get Marquez back this week. I'm not sure what David's status is going to be because we really don't have practices. So as far as Randall goes, I think he's pretty happy to be on a 6-1 team. As he should be, and I think as you continue to work him into the game plan,
Starting point is 00:45:12 it's fantastic, and AJ alluded to Thursday night without Devontae being a problem. And before we even get into that whole discussion, which I'm sure there will be a good one about it the the pump fake dodge this weekend in the uh in the pocket and then a little skirt and then the athlete hey the internet almost stopped you look like fucking Chris Angel in there dude you look like a magic man avoiding tacklers and then you're in the back of the end zone and your tweet to Orlovsky legendary you're laughing in the face of being seven yards deep in your own end zone in the middle of an NFL game, which is like maybe the most high stress.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Randall Cobb jumps off sides trying to make an emotion. You just seem to be more calm than ever. You seem to be more happy than ever. And I don't know if this is just me with recent history bias. Is there a reason that you seem to be having the time of your life when it looks like the world is burning right around you in the game? Well, I love football.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I'm invested completely in this season. Really? Yeah, I am. I know it's surprising. It's just been, life's been really good, man. I love our Tuesday chats have been great. It's been fun to have some new guys in the mix, new teammates, get to know them and get to know some of the older ones a little bit better to, you know, build those friendships. It's been great working with the staff.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I love the staff. It's such a great group of guys to work with every single week. They make things fun and they reinvent themselves every single week with presentations and jokes and things to keep guys interested you just absolutely love and obviously winning cares a lot of that you know we had a rough first week and and the world outside the facility was kind of on top of us and i'm just so proud of our guys to stay the course and to not panic and not you know start pointing fingers and the other that usually happens when you have a dud like that maybe in other places but we stuck. We won six in a row. We've been playing obviously a lot better. All three phases, I think, have been playing improved football,
Starting point is 00:47:13 and it's a game, man. You got to have fun with it, and you got to enjoy it, and watching Randall try and escape that false start was amazing. How can you not laugh at that stuff? With Ioannidis chasing me out of the back of the end zone, and I kind of lofted that ball over to A.J. Dillon, a little bit of a dicey throw there that he almost caught. And then I think Matt was like, oh, you were almost out of bounds there. And immediately I was like, man, I avoided that Dan Orlovsky right there. You know, I saw that tweet i said i love dan dan and i roomed together at the elite 11 quarterback camp back in 2000 and man what was that early 2004 was 2003 and became fast friends
Starting point is 00:47:59 and it was a great group of guys you had loved them pat it was jason white and kyle orton and dan orlovsky and brad smith um who else was there it was a good group of guys but a lot uh orton and derrick anderson if i said derrick anderson dan orlovsky orton jason white myself brad smith it was six of us but watching orton and jason white man those guys are characters those guys are hilarious man they really like to get after a little bit. But Dan and I became buddies, and I love, you know, Dan does a really good job on TV. I've told him that before, but, you know, he brings some real knowledge to the table.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And at the same time, I didn't want to be in the same sense with him about running out of the back of the end zone. So I'm glad that didn't happen. Yeah, that's smart. And that's the proper way to think. And I'm happy in the big moment you realized that as well. You know, when he was on, I do not want to be the Jared Allen, Dan Orlovsky gif.
Starting point is 00:48:52 And you almost, I mean, that could have been pick six. I think that's why you said dicey, but you almost completing that pass, then laughing and smiling about it just made me think, man, this dude has no idea about the pressures that a lot of other people on the field probably feel. And it's fantastic to watch. It's been a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Now let's change our focus to Thursday night here. Big game. Biggest game of the year for the NFL by far thus far. I mean, it is huge. Two titans in the NFC are about to clash. You're without Devontae Adams, who we all enjoy watching you two play football together. The touchdown to him where you, I don't know if you were falling, diving, tripping, whatever it was to him this past weekend is awesome.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Those plays are routine for you guys. Without him, short week. What are your thoughts? Well, I saw a stat yesterday. We're 6-0 without him the last few years. I don't know how that's even possible, but we've found a way the last six times we've missed him. And like I said, just now in the press conference, we're not a better team without him. I mean, he's so damn talented. He's incredible. The things he does in the field
Starting point is 00:49:57 and the adjustments he makes, the catches he makes, just the savvy that he has, late hands, meticulous route runner, great after the catch, does it all for you, love him, great human. So we're obviously going to miss him, miss his presence. But we found a way in the last six games. We found a way to win. So we're going to have to dig into some of the ways that we did that over the years. And, you know, we'll be ready to go. I'm not worried about our guys.
Starting point is 00:50:23 There'll be some young guys who've got to step up. And when they do, they need to make'll be ready to go. I'm not worried about our guys. There'll be some young guys who've got to step up. And when they do, they need to make the most of their opportunities. Well, first off, I hope Devontae's feeling okay. I don't know if you've gotten to check in with him. I mean, we hope he's doing well with whatever's going on in the protocol. But when you look at the Cardinals and you see Kyler Murray and what he's able to do, did you ever think you'd see a guy in the NFL playing the style that he is
Starting point is 00:50:45 and doing it so consistently at such a high level? Well, I think you've seen it over the years as a lot of the changes happen, kind of, maybe you wouldn't expect this, but a lot of it comes from the high school level to the college level to the pro level. And you've seen more and more of these quarterbacks who have this, when they get ranked, it's like quarterback slash athlete. You know, they're putting athlete alongside the quarterback's name, which guys like myself. That wasn't you?
Starting point is 00:51:13 That's fantastic. You know, I would think I was just more like quarterback, half a star guy, you know. No slash, no slash. But he's a talented guy. And there's a lot of guys who are doing what he's doing. They can attack you so many different ways when you've got an athletic guy like that. Obviously, you can read option stuff, which we saw in the early 2010s with guys like Cap and Russ, and then guys who can really sling it
Starting point is 00:51:39 and move around a bunch, which there's a few guys like him. But he's talented, arm talents is fantastic. You can run around all over the place. He's one of, if not the fastest guy in the field most of the time. And the weapons that they got, obviously, D Hop is fantastic player, has been for a long, long, long, long, long time. AJ Green, seeing him come back for his injuries and playing really well. Christian Kirk, great player. Zach Ertz,
Starting point is 00:52:06 a buddy of mine who just got recently traded. Super talented guy. So we're going to have to keep up with them scoring-wise because they've been very consistent offensively. So we're going to have to find a way of scoring points. Is that something you think about? Because, for instance, going into a game,
Starting point is 00:52:21 and AJ has talked about this ad nauseum, like, offense is offenses now with the way rules are, with the way things are going, offenses are going to get their point. Now, last night, they didn't, but in actual most NFL games, offenses are going to get their points. Is there games you go in, you're like, okay, we have to score this amount of points this week, it feels like, because we're going against them, and then when you look at this Cardinals defense, they're
Starting point is 00:52:42 getting Chandler Jones back off the COVID list, and he had five sacks in that first game and I think he's continuing to be there how do you frame that is that just like an expectation going in is it goals how is all that well I don't know if you necessarily put a number on your mind but you when you're playing a great offense you know you're gonna have to to match them you know score for score so just kind of a mindset you got to maximize your possessions I don't think you say hey we got them, you know, score for score. So it's just kind of a mindset. You've got to maximize your possessions. I don't think you say, hey, we've got to get, you know, 30 points this game. It's just, you know, we've got to maximize scoring our possessions. We've got to keep the ball out of their hands.
Starting point is 00:53:12 We've got to take care of the football and not turn it over. And that's kind of standard stuff. When you play on the road, you're playing against good defense in a hostile environment, a team that's 7-0, you know, that the turnover margin is going to be so important to the game and the possession time, you know, maximizing those possessions withstanding that initial surge of energy and hype from their defense or from the crowd.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And if we can do that and still be in the game, you know, you've got a good chance to win. Hey, that was a speech right there, dude. Hey, we've got to withstand the surge of energy. You seem like you're in game mode. You don't seem to be as laid back as you usually are at home. But, hey, you've got a game in a couple of days. Are you guys leaving? I don't have my halo light. I don't seem to be as laid back as you usually are at home. But, hey, you've got a game in a couple of days. Are you guys leaving?
Starting point is 00:53:46 I don't have my halo light. I don't have my books behind me. I mean, I have a book, but I don't have my books behind me. I'm in Red's office here. I've got a meeting. It's work time, AJ. Get over it. All right?
Starting point is 00:54:01 We've got work to do around here. Hey, I could have. Shit that you've got behind you, Hey, I could have. Shit that you got behind you, right? I could have. Trust me, I could have Amazoned you a nice little backdrop if you need it. Let me know next time you're in the facility on the show. But is this game, is this one of those games you pull out trick plays or stuff you haven't shown yet this year on film? I'm not going to tell you that, buddy.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Is this the kind of game, though, that teams do that? Hey, unlike some of those other shows out there, people actually watch this shit. Thank you. That means a lot, by the way. None of us know why. But do you have – Because you don't wear sleeves, Pat. That's why.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Well, I don't know if that's the case. I do have another 60-pack coming in. I'm good. No laundry, 60 days. Why is AJ not smoking? That's my real question. What's going on? You cutting back? I don't know. I might
Starting point is 00:54:52 quit. I don't know. Really? You want to smoke dope? You want me to send over some dope instead? Is that how it goes? You have to choose? Well, I think you're going to still be addicted to the movement. I'm just saying we can easily make this a much better experience than your house almost burning down with the shit smell in that attic of yours.
Starting point is 00:55:10 I mean, we'll talk about it. We will talk about it. It is weird. He's not smoking, Aaron. What's that all about? Is he okay? I don't know. Sidebar.
Starting point is 00:55:16 He's a little angry today. He sent me a weird message this morning. It was supposed to be to his wife, I think. It was an angry message i don't know what's going on oh gee hey guy what's changed his subject you gotta come up with some better stuff all right all right go ahead ty aaron you mentioned your back not feeling great and hopefully that's just a one-time thing we don't have to deal about it but the legs look great i mean that slide you had to against washington picking up the first down without davante are
Starting point is 00:55:43 you thinking on thursday, like, hey, this might be a game where I have to, you know, rush for 50 to 100 yards potentially? Yeah, maybe 200. Spikes up, Ty. Spikes up. That's fly, bro. Look, I got inspired watching number four for Washington, man.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I mean, the dude almost ran for 100 yards. I got inspired. So I've had an explosive run the last two weeks. Very, very proud of that. That's not something that I want to make a living doing. Definitely don't want to take any unnecessary shots. But I have enjoyed getting out a little bit and extending plays. And for whatever reason, I've been able to have a double digit run the last two weeks so I'll hope I'll be really hoping that I got at least one more double digit run coming up
Starting point is 00:56:30 on Thursday oh yeah is it because the squats you think are you trying to defy father time as you go here like whenever you see what Tom's able to do at his age and obviously there's other quarterbacks that are not you're not getting old but in the game of football you kind of grow older as the years go on it's kind of i'm not saying you're getting old all right you look young you look great halloween's right around the corner can't wait to see what you dress up as by the way that hair is going to be fantastic in there but do you have to change anything have you changed anything the way you eat the way you lift the way you prepare and are you trying and do you feel better than you've ever felt pat yes, yes. We've answered these questions many times. Last year, powerlifting, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:57:08 It got me a great rack at the house. I've been squatting the last couple years, putting up a ton of weight. I got inspired watching AJ with his 5 a.m. workouts doing the Versa, many, many hours spent on the Versa climber, getting my conditioning right in the offseason. Big shout-out to AJ. Doing the Versa, you know, many, many hours spent on the Versa climber. Getting my conditioning right in the off-season. Big shout-out to Age for that. But, yeah, I mean, you know, you know, when I saw you in the Bahamas and you were slimmed down,
Starting point is 00:57:42 I remember you told me about your diet and how much you're paying attention to what you're eating, how it affects, you know, not the way your your body reacts and feels but you know the way your wife looks at you when you have your shirt off and the bahamas that's some important stuff man but for you it's more of appearance for me it's about performance so i got to make sure i'm careful about the stuff i'm eating and and get out of that squat bar every week well i don't want to be fat i would like the same for you by the way i would hope you would never get fat. But it is a fascinating, because we're in the middle of a time where we know so much. Like Tom looks younger than ever.
Starting point is 00:58:12 He's backwards hat Tom now, Florida Tom. And he gave an answer last night about how he thought he was a cold weather quarterback, and then he went down to Tampa, and he's like, oh, I'm a warm weather quarterback, like I am. And it feels like you only thrive in these conditions in your body. It just seems like you're defying a lot with what you're doing and how you're playing. So I'm incredibly
Starting point is 00:58:31 impressed, sir. That's all I'm saying. I appreciate that and I enjoy being a cold weather quarterback in Green Bay. When the weather changes and the leaves start coming off the trees, I get a little twinkle in my eye because I know that football season is about to really start. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:47 That's awesome. What a great way to close this before we get into the book club announcement. You've gave a couple motivational speeches, and I think it's because you're in that building, and I feel like I'm starting to get a hint of what it's like to be your teammate, and I'll let you know that every week I get so excited. Non-stop speeches. That's what you think I'm all about, just non-stop speeches in here? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And also visualization of two-minute drills before games and stuff like that. It's still happening. It's still happening. Visualization, very important. I think we can all agree on that. But Skycam and other things on there, fascinating decisions, just fascinating decisions. But it's not about that right now. What it's about is continuing to grow the largest book club in the sports world. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time
Starting point is 00:59:29 for week eight of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club. Drum roll, please. First, there was the alchemist. Then, where men win glory. The giver, be here now. The four agreements, you are the universe. Then there was Sun Tzu, art of war. Book number eight. Is he still alive? Of the air. Rest in peace, by the way, to Sun Tzu. That's a real shame.
Starting point is 00:59:56 We had a moment of silence for him the other day. I did not know he had passed. We deserve him. We need him right now. Book number eight is. Book number eight is? Book number eight is The Power of Now. Okay. The Power of Now.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Eckhart Tolle. This is a book that I dusted off pretty recently. It's a guide to spiritual enlightenment. It's very similar as far as the direction that it goes as Be Here Now, just kind of a more extended version. It's a fantastic book for anybody interested in what a spiritual practice looks like, how to better understand their mind, how to quiet your mind, mindfulness. Talking right to Pat. Yeah, there's been over, as of this cover, over 5 million copies sold. It's a New York Times bestseller.
Starting point is 01:00:55 It's been read by millions of people around the world. Called The Power of Now, and it's a fantastic, fantastic book. And not a difficult read either. It's 227 pages or so. That should be a nice little week read for Connor, I'm sure. But I am, you know, I just, one of the cool things, this show has been amazing for me. I can't say how many times I hear people say that they love watching the show
Starting point is 01:01:23 and they can't wait every single Tuesday to watch it. Even friends of mine that I didn't know kept up on what I was doing in a week tell me how much they enjoy it. But little things like I was walking down with Bakhtiari to the golf cart to head down to the walkthrough. And one of the guys who was giving the tour goes, hey, thanks so much for the book club. I said, oh, cool, man. He said, yeah, I just got The Giver. I started reading it. And I look forward to the recommendations every week.
Starting point is 01:01:50 So it's really cool to know so many people watching and interested and not just the shit that we say on here that people pick up and that your voice splice up into some really cool two and three minute clips. But the fact that people are inspired to read maybe a little bit more and enjoying some of the book recommendations is pretty cool so thanks for the uh opportunity for that you know i love uh love you pat age and the boys it's uh this is part of the fun you know the fun is obviously i mean look i got my best friend in the league back to go to work with every day i got the funniest dude in the world to drive down to practice with every day and david bakhti in the world to drive down to practice with every day in David Bakhtiari. I got a great coaching staff that I love.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I'm still in Green Bay and having the time of my life. And I get fun moments like this every single week. So life is about perspective. And I'm just daily counting the blessings that I have in life and just have so much gratitude
Starting point is 01:02:42 for these moments. And for the fact that I'm 37, I'm still playing and, uh, still playing a high level and still getting to, uh, to have fun moments, uh, each, each week, including on this show. So thank you guys for that. No, listen, obviously. Thank you. Listen, I understand that you probably, I assume that is genuine and you do thank us, but if you were to zoom out of Green Bay,
Starting point is 01:03:07 and we are the fucking lucky ones, pal. Okay, thank you so much for joining us. Good luck on Thursday. I'm going to read the part right now, okay? And I can't wait for it next week. I can't wait to watch you on Thursday. And thank you for blessing us with your brain every single Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Honestly, I have no idea how we deserve it, why we deserve it, but I appreciate the hell out of you, pal. Buddy, it's my pleasure. Alright, well. See you guys. No, no, no. I don't have my prop guitar in here. I really don't. I don't know what I can do.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I think it's going to show up. What are you looking for? Guitar? Get the guitar. Ladies are you looking for? Guitar. Get the guitar. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Thank you, sir. I mean,
Starting point is 01:03:55 who even invented time? You know? Well, joining us now is maybe a man who did guy. He's a real time traveler. You know what I mean? One of the greatest jaws in the history of existence. A man who never suffered a concussion somehow after leading the green bay packers
Starting point is 01:04:09 entire organization in tackles after his career was finished in obliterating two to three of his teeth at a time upon devastating forehead blow to other humans head and crown and jaw of their helmet. A man who potentially changed the NFL's entire rule book with how he tried to tackle individuals that were on the offensive side of the ball. A man who had to work out his neck so much so that when he was at Centerville, Ohio, he actually looked like a wildebeest with how wide his neck was because his helmet was so heavy because he used it as a weapon every single time he stepped on the field so much so that he actually knocked Kirk Herbstreet unconscious in an alumni football game as a sophomore in high school that retired Kirk
Starting point is 01:04:59 Herbstreet's football career forever they didn't know if Kirk was going to be able to speak on the desk at college game day days after this man tried to kill him on a football field. A.J. Hawk. Yeah! A.J., how you doing? I mean, what a great intro you gave me coming off the, what did Connor say? What is time anyway? Yeah, yeah. I mean, we got really deep in there. intro you gave me coming off the uh what the what did connor say what is time anyway yeah yeah i
Starting point is 01:05:25 mean we got really deep in there i'm excited that we can potentially have you joining us and we're very thankful that your brain is still in one piece because everything i said there is true and you're actually wearing that probably that centerville elk helmet right there whenever you put kirk herb street to sleep for his final time on a football field uh yeah i was told that there was no year zero i was just i was told time existence isn't a real thing, and I don't even know where that conversation begins or ends. Just like, I guess, 2021, how do we get here then if there's no zero? AJ?
Starting point is 01:05:55 I don't know. It's almost like you can freak yourself out if you ever think, when they say, hey, oh, this is for all of infinity. You ever think what infinity is? Yeah, that's why I'm freezing myself, remember? It doesn't freak me out at all. I found an answer. It's forever.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I know Mitt is standing guard watching your body, right? No, no, no. Anybody but Mitt. We've already talked about this. But yeah, I can see how that could potentially freak some people out. I got the answer. We're just freezing our bodies, okay? And then whenever they create the cure, boom, you're back in the game.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Here's the cure. We're back for however long until the next thing. And if they don't have a cure by then for whatever it is, guess what? Back in the freezer, son of a bitch. That's where I'm headed. And then bang, we cure it. We live forever. This is going to be cool.
Starting point is 01:06:34 We're going to see infinity. But there is all those theories that, you know, the world's going to blow up, what, tomorrow? Yeah, sure. Maybe next week. We got four years, five years, seven years, maybe next year. Last year was potentially. I mean, there is all those conversations happening. And that is not for us to talk about because we are two dumb stooges that talk about sports.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Speaking of the sports world, last night's game was terrible. It was a bad football game. Loved what Dixon and Gilligan did. The punters for their respective teams, the Seahawks and the Saints. I'm happy that the saints got a win they didn't cover kind of fucks our overall record for the weekend uh but that was a bad football game aj that was a bad football game out there yeah it was a bit cagey as gump would say uh this is one of the first games too uh on monday night that i would strictly was 100
Starting point is 01:07:20 percent peyton and eli didn't go back to esp1, which I feel bad for the main crew, but Peyton and Eli are great, man. Tom was great on there. Obviously, Drew, awkward when Peyton asked him, hey, what's different about the offense now? And he just laughed awkwardly, and then he went to break and never really answered. What was that about? Okay, so we're...
Starting point is 01:07:38 AJ Swanson buried Drew Brees. I'm wondering why it was a weird question. Even Peyton said go and break. I know it's a hard question. They went to break. It was great, but what was difficult about it? It was uncomfortable. I think Peyton recognized how uncomfortable it was. But why was it uncomfortable?
Starting point is 01:07:54 Because I think Drew Brees still wants to play. So every time you hear him talk, Drew Brees still wants to be playing right now. Drew Brees. Are you thinking he feels like he was pushed out? I don't know if he feels like he was pushed out or if he maybe made the wrong decision or if he still thinks he has it.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I don't know what it is. Hey, this is one Stooges opinion. This is not how everybody should view. This is not a matter of fact. This is just listening to him speak and seeing the way he acts after the incredible career he had had and how this had gone on for years.
Starting point is 01:08:26 And when we asked him down at Radio Row before he elbowed Ty right in the back of the head after he delivered me an incredible smoothie. I mean, it was a good conversation. He just said, you know, like everybody talking about him retiring was like bullets to feed him and like keep him going. And like it didn't seem like he was a guy. Once we got to remember, this is a Texas dude who loves football. I mean, loves football, is incredibly good at football. I think he enjoyed what being a starting quarterback in the NFL and being great in the NFL maybe potentially added to his life,
Starting point is 01:08:59 whether it was business-wise or how his kids are incredibly popular. His life is good. Like, I think he is just somebody at the Pro Bowl. I was with him on the same team as him out at the Pro Bowl. He was Mr. Pro Bowl, like loved being at the Pro Bowl, enjoyed every single event, was very gracious with almost every single fan he encountered. Not that anybody else wasn't, but it was almost like he was going on, I don't want to say out of his way but he was just like over and the top like love of everything going so I think this is a guy who was very addicted to the NFL and loved the NFL and then now he's seeing what's kind of happening he's watching that game and he's talking about games I think there's a chance that Drew
Starting point is 01:09:42 Brees potentially thinks he still wants to play, but he understands that he shouldn't. He's great on TV. I just think there is maybe that going on because this is very soon after he's retired here, AJ. Things like this have happened before. I mean, you absolutely could be right. I guess in the moment, I wasn't thinking that, but it does make sense. I mean, this is the first year in, what, 30 years that Drew is watching football and he's not playing he knows he doesn't get a chance to play so i'm sure he definitely misses it and realizes doing on tv yeah it keeps him involved but he doesn't get to make any plays so yeah
Starting point is 01:10:13 that's tough but still it was weird when you like you could have said yeah jamie we're different kind of players you know of course a lot of the same plays that look different and then he made that like i like to go empty a lot and then they went to break and i'm like yeah of course you did but you're saying james doesn't is it good bad like what are we doing yeah so and there are some people that all of you all the time think i'm not saying you're like this all the time okay i'm not saying that but if you compliment one thing that doesn't mean that you're burying something else you know you might just be putting something over as opposed to it necessarily meaning something about somebody else now that is obviously going to be chatted about because that is Drew Brees' team.
Starting point is 01:10:47 When you think of the Saints, you think of Drew Brees. You think of Sean Payton. And what if he would have just answered them and said, yeah, well, I don't know. I would have probably thrown it to the one like you're supposed to on this play. And then the next play, if I would have had to open it up, I would have. What if Drew would have just unloaded? What if he would have been like,
Starting point is 01:11:01 well, there's a lot of terrible decisions being made by James right here. It's pretty obvious. I think we can all see that obviously here at home. Hey, hey, hey. What if he starts have been like, well, there's a lot of terrible decisions being made by James right here. It's pretty obvious. I think we can all see that, obviously, here at home. Hey, hey, hey. What if he starts calling the cadence? Just like he's Russell Wilson, maybe. He kind of started that. You know, he kind of started that thing that Russ does, the two-minute stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:15 You know, Drew was big on taking his drop and throwing fake passes to all his different reads. Yeah, I remember it. The vision. Yeah. Yeah, seeing vision. No. Visualization. Visualization. There it is. Vision quest. Well, that was a show, right? A. The vision. Yeah. Yeah, seeing, vision, no. Visualization. Visualization, there it is.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Vision Quest. Well, that was a show, right? A lot of nerds watching. Yeah. Shout out to you nerds, by the way. Shout out. Shout out. I heard it was good.
Starting point is 01:11:33 I'm sure it was good. But yeah, the visualization thing, I think it was made popular mostly by Tiger, wasn't it? I'm trying to, I'm trying to. I mean, visualization's been around, but to actually visualize and not have a ball with you and do all that, I think Drew kind of brought that to football maybe.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Okay, yeah, he might have. Legitimately might have. But I think Tiger was very big. I think as a kicker, right, a lot of people try to teach you up and coach you up, and it's like, oh, you've got to visualize things. And then there was always this story about how Tiger could visualize his shots and shape his shots, and he would experience them before they would even happen. So he's much more comfortable in the moment.
Starting point is 01:12:09 And then as I was in the NFL, I slowly learned after watching Adam Vinatieri and hearing Jim Caldwell talk about the fact that if you can put yourself mentally in practice in a moment, that is a game changer. If you can actually be third and long or two minute drill, no timeout on the practice field on Wednesday, on Thursday, on Friday, if you can somehow trick yourself into having the same amount of anxiety, the amount of pressure, the amount of as if you're in the moment in practice, the game gets a lot easier. And I'm going to say as somebody that got a chance to almost start doing that, you would say, I would easier and I'm going to say as somebody that got a chance to almost start doing that you you would say I would say when I was in high school like okay if I make this kick I get a million dollars and then I would feel act like that was pressure and I'm like hopefully this will come one day but it isn't until you start like actually visualizing and like
Starting point is 01:12:59 seeing and like taking every rep as if it's a real one it wasn't until I I got good. Now, granted, I've never done it without a ball. That would be awesome for a punter to do it. I would like a punter to start doing that, please, actually, to take a fake snap. Oh, shit. And then doing an entire thing. That would be awesome. It probably makes it a lot easier. But I think doing it when you know every camera is going to be on you is what everybody is mimicking and mocking.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And I think that is the flaw in the entire thing potentially yeah and and Russ of course I understand he's got to do it on the field like where else are you going to do that you get the real feel for it and I know it's a real thing like visualizing what you're doing if you can take yourself mentally through that rep and you're taking a drop and you're making a throw like those people will tell you that counts as like a real rep if you truly are purposeful with your practice and you're taking a drop and you're making a throw, people will tell you that counts as like a real rep if you truly are purposeful with your practice and you're doing all that. But, yeah, you're right. When there's a Scott Cam and then there's seven other dudes
Starting point is 01:13:51 with the steady cams, it's just tough. It is tough. Connor said he was worried he was going to hurt his finger. Yes. He really let one loose, he said. He said he really let one loose. What if that came up? Was he clapping to break the huddle?
Starting point is 01:14:01 I hope he didn't clap. Yeah, he had to sneak it in. Jameis Winston was coming over the top. He almost laid out his receiver. It was tough. Let's talk about Jameis. All right. Is Jameis mocking everything?
Starting point is 01:14:12 No. I think Jameis is just the man. I just think he is such a unique, off-the-wall character. Okay. So, all right. Now, I enjoy him, by the way. I enjoy him having an interaction with his wide receiver. If they weren't on the same page, competitive juices can fly.
Starting point is 01:14:30 We've seen this thousands of times on the sideline of an NFL game between coaches, players, players, and players, but not even that. Just everything Jameis does. Do you think it's all a mockery or not? We got into this conversation in the last hour. When he was eating a W, was he mocking the pregame speeches that normally happen? Another pregame speech
Starting point is 01:14:50 was going on, and he was told, look at the person to your left. And he literally went like this. And then he said, look him in the eye. And he like, I thought he was mocking the speech. Like, everything he, his workouts. Is he mocking workouts when he's laying on a BOSU ball doing dumbbell bench?
Starting point is 01:15:07 Is he mocking all of these things? Or is this just how, there it is. I mean, that is obviously a mockery, right? I would have popped and laughed so hard if I was in the huddle and I saw that. I don't care who we're playing, who's speaking, how it's going. If I witnessed that, is he doing that as a joke, you think, or is that just who Jameis is all the time? That is Jameis.
Starting point is 01:15:30 I think it is him. That's amazing. If he was doing, like, the greatest, most consistent troll job ever, that would be equally amazing. If we find out about that 35 years from now, then this dude has a lot of commitment to the gig. But, no, I think this is him, and I think he's just – I appreciate that he's letting his personality show.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Me and Connor actually did get to the agreement because Connor is on a firm belief that this is not a mockery of everything. No way. He thinks just like you that this is him or whatever. There's too many times he's done it. Like, this is just him. What else are you saying? I'm saying every – like, the videos of him dancing in practice, all of it
Starting point is 01:16:06 is awesome. I'm the hardest working quarterback in the NFL. I know Dax right there. Think about everything he does. That would be mocking a speech that is given at youth camps. That is exactly what the mock speech would be. I'm in the camp firmly
Starting point is 01:16:23 that this is all mockery. I think he is playing chess I think this is closed Sicilian by Jameis Winston and we're going to find this out 15-14 just to entertain himself or what's the end game? hopefully it's like some documentary there's no way that this is just how Jamie Coffin
Starting point is 01:16:40 here we go yeah I mean that's James a lucrative acting career, perhaps. He's just goofy. He's a goofy, fun guy. I fucking love it. Because that means he's always like it, by the way. Because in every situation, he is always Jameis, which I respect.
Starting point is 01:16:56 You think he's the guy going for it? You think he's the guy long-term down in New Orleans? I don't know Sean Payton at all, aside from... What's up, Sean? What's up, Pat? All right, Sean. All right, Pat. A golf tournament I was invited to down at the Greenbrier in West Virginia.
Starting point is 01:17:13 He was there. We showed up late. We missed an event. And kind of our fault. We had 15 people with us as well. We disrespected the entire situation. Played barefoot. Me and John Daly won.
Starting point is 01:17:26 But I got a chance to chat with him very quickly. That was literally our entire interaction. The fact he knew who I was, I thought that was pretty cool. This guy seems like a good guy. I don't know him at all. You know him a little bit better than me. Don't you out there in Tahoe? You guys ever get to talk?
Starting point is 01:17:38 He's part of that thing, isn't he? Yeah, he's out in Tahoe. And I was lucky enough to play with he and Strahan on Sunday this past year. What's he like? So he's terrible at golf. What is he like? He actually played pretty well. Good one.
Starting point is 01:17:51 I don't claim that I'm Phil Mick over here. He was awesome. He was the man. I didn't know what to expect. I'd talk to him here and there at times, but playing 18 holes with the dude and his caddy was awesome too. My brother caddies for me and Strahan's caddy. We all hung out the whole time together. of them fun dudes awesome guy sean even when you're talking to him you see like he has that weird football offensive genius in his brain like
Starting point is 01:18:15 he's always thinking something football they say he's super intense i think there's been like mixed reports that he's either like a hard-ass coach i forget i don't know how to get the read of the players he was either used to be a hard-ass or used to be a little bit different than he is now i don't know if he's the same their camp's known their camp is known to be brutal and then but if you see guys now they're like man that's not the sean i know like i didn't when you see him doing stuff like and maybe not have it as intense practices we don't we don't know what they're doing in camp we don't get to see what they're really doing i guess but yeah he's he's known that even deep in the season he doesn't what they're doing in camp. We don't get to see what they're really doing, I guess. But yeah, he's known that
Starting point is 01:18:45 even deep in the season, he doesn't care. They're going to get their practice in. Yeah, and that's down in New Orleans, and they started moving that training camp because I assume if he had a hard ass camp, and it's what, 6,000 degrees in New Orleans? They used to go to Mississippi, bro. They used to be in Mississippi. It's even hotter I think where they went.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Then Greenbrier, I think they're dealing with the Greenbrier's up, and now they're back in New Orleans. I couldn't imagine anything hotter than New Orleans when the humidity was up at 7,000. But I guess, and then as soon as you said Mississippi, I'm like, I haven't even thought about being in the deep Mississippi humidity. I couldn't even imagine.
Starting point is 01:19:18 I don't think I've ever been. I don't think I've ever. Oh, yeah, I called the Egg Bowl. Yeah, that's right. I called the Egg Bowl. As in late November, I guess. We played Mississippi mississippi state too it seemed like there was sun out it might have been early in the season i've never been down there that humidity though down in the caribbean area golfer that shit is fucking different florida gets real hot oh that is
Starting point is 01:19:38 we felt in new orleans when we first went down there to the lane game oh we're in the back of a truck oh my god oh my it was seven thousand that's why in my head there's nothing hotter than new orleans yeah that is we were cooking in the back of a box truck their grish are broke yeah we're actually cooking in there it was seven thousand degrees doing a show it was great show was i'm sure the quality was fantastic i'm sure that's how that's how little kids die when they get stuck in a car their parents leave them without the air yeah we were like the dogs that get left in your car during the summer, basically in the back of a box.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Yeah, can't do it. It was. Fouch? No, Fouch, I thought was just shooting beagles. All right. All right. All right. All right.
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Starting point is 01:20:15 He was trending the other day right below. Fan to his family. Hell yeah. By the way, if you won the fan to his family contest, look for Mitt to tweet you and message you on Instagram at some point today. That's a lot of pressure on Mitt. Oh, yeah. He does a great job with it. He does.
Starting point is 01:20:31 He's got to pick like 50, 60 winners every week, give away like 10 grand every week. He's got to go through the entire thing, get their information. That is not easy to do. There's a lot of entries. Maybe say thanks. A lot of ingrates, too. Thanks, Mitt. Sorry, I didn't know my mic was on
Starting point is 01:20:45 oh you're talking about the people that win yeah just an idea yeah there's never a it's free you pricks no no no no just take it mitt's taking some on the shins from people because they're not getting whatever as fast as they should be getting it and that's like all right dude have you heard anything about anything going on the world right now like there's a potential supply chain issue going on we People are freaking out. People tell me I need to buy peanut butter now. Oh, shit. We're not doing this toilet paper shit again, are we?
Starting point is 01:21:11 I haven't gotten what's it called? Paper towels? Sam's hasn't had paper towels for the last three weeks. Oh, no. So maybe now is the time to get that Fluidmaster 9500 soft spa bidet. That's a good point. Now is the time to get that bidet. It seems like you may be going to be wiping the asses with leaves and T-shirts here in
Starting point is 01:21:30 no time. Is that what's going on? It seems like it. There's no plastic. Plastic's out. Still tough to find bottles of water. Really? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Leaves are about to be done, too. Where was I just at? Where was I just at? Leaves are about to be done. A lot of dumps. Grab them. A lot of dumps. Where was I just at? Kansas are about to be done a lot of dumps grab a lot of them yeah the uh where was i just at kansas they had the old school dasani bottle the uh like the okay the
Starting point is 01:21:52 more sturdy bottle yeah yeah does that make sense yeah not the like nice cheap one that the with the dasani wrapper on which is they're doing now yeah which they're doing now because i think it's all plastic shortage it's going on people are saying like for christmas shopping and holiday shopping all that shit they're saying it might be a real who starts that though who started that because now it just becomes a thing that everyone even if it wasn't going to be a thing they make it something well it definitely was a thing for the last like 18 months i'd say whenever it came for like our company merch wise the back end getting access to well there's like there's 400 ships sitting outside the LA port trying to get in. I know that's...
Starting point is 01:22:29 Is this still a fallback from that ship? So that canal, I guess, is a part of the problem, and there's a bunch of shit going on elsewhere. Yeah, it is, though. That's where it all starts, is in those boats. Walmart and Target, I believe, are the corporate contributors to this that I read about. Fat cats. To help it, to make it better, or what? They wait like seven days to this that I read about. Fat cats.
Starting point is 01:22:45 To help it, to make it better. They wait like seven days to respond to an inquiry about, Hey, like we need to get this fucking shit going and it's all backing it up. That happened. Tarjay and Walmart. Really?
Starting point is 01:22:55 The Bezos should step in. I'll send it in. Yeah. Bezos is the one that's moving all this shit. How come he doesn't put his spaceship down and say, Hey, give me the fucking votes. He still gets you stuff in a day. So it is crazy how he's able to and say, hey, give me the fucking boats. He still gets you his stuff in a day.
Starting point is 01:23:05 It is crazy how he's able to do whatever, whenever, however, they have access to anything. They have all these warehouses everywhere. They already have everything in Haas. Indiana is becoming warehouse capital. It's crazy. They're huge. Million square foot buildings.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Their new ones are being built or they're taking over old ones that no one's in? These things are being built in a week, week and a half. Are there big server buildings too? I think Amazon or Google has these gigantic server, it's like five I don't even know how many, hundreds of thousands of square feet that are just servers inside
Starting point is 01:23:38 I guess. Maybe, I don't know. Everybody seems to have some warehouse being built in the middle of Indiana right now. It's outside this city so I'm assuming truckers aren't exactly thrilled they got to drive on these country roads tiny roads because fields farms are being sold uh plots of land are being sold to these companies so they can build these warehouses on it so what was once corn or beans or whatever the fuck it is that is now just these literal warehouses that are taking up the entire plot almost, like the entire square. And then there's more.
Starting point is 01:24:13 They have so many fields. There's so many fields. So, so many fields out there. So once one company hears about it, they're like, oh, shit, we'll take it across the street then. We'll take that. And then you get two, three farmers that start doing that and start selling their land or whatever that can i mean there's like 10 15 of these things that have been built in the last year oh yeah like in the same area basically and you guys ride the same country roads basically to get to all of them and it is
Starting point is 01:24:40 they're trying to build a roundabouts and they're trying to set they're not going to have they're not going to be able to make it. Absolute nightmare. Walmart's building the biggest one right now, by the way. Probably because of this problem. They say, we'll just store everything here, I guess. Perfect. Robots will be driving the trucks before the time the roads even get finished.
Starting point is 01:24:57 So no, those robots would not be able to get through that four way intersection. There is a four way intersection. This is on the way to the airport. So I have to go through there. And Foxy lives in the area. So Foxy has all these warehouses being built up around his house that he just bought. Yeah, they didn't tell me about that one. It's got to help, right? Doesn't that help with your value? Oh, he had such a good view. It was like, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:17 like an awesome, it seemed like, that is going to be a building in... And he knows, and there's nothing he can do about it. There's nothing he can do. His neighbors, by the way, in the area that he lives, none of them can do anything about it because the same farmers that sold their,
Starting point is 01:25:32 the property for that particular housing thing to get built, they also own the property that's potentially going to be a motherfucking 10 warehouses. There's a row of four houses and one guy said, no, no, no, you're not buying this land.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Other three houses said, yeah, let's go. Buy my house, buy everything. So now all of them got fucked because of one stubborn old guy. Well, and by the way, there is like a couple houses in between these massive warehouses. And there's the rocking chair on the front. You know, and there's like, they ain't going anywhere for this. Good for them. Good for them staying on their ground.
Starting point is 01:26:01 But they have 45 minute to-long drives to store now. That used to be four minutes is now trucks backed up behind trucks with locals, neighbors, cars all through there. They shut down the biggest road because they wanted to make it bigger. Oh, geez. In doing so, all the smaller roads now are being. It is a nightmare. But hey, Amazon will have your shit. That's right.
Starting point is 01:26:30 That's business, baby. Foxy's probably going to have to sell his house and move soon. Unless a robot just takes it. What is your deal? Ain't no robots doing that stuff. I don't know. You see they got the dogs that have 50 cows mounted to their backs now. No.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 15 years. Police departments are going to be trotting those things out before no time, and they're just going to go crazy. I haven't seen it either. A dog with a 50 cow? What is this, GTA? Yeah, it's real.
Starting point is 01:26:57 It's absurd. What are you, this is real life? Uh-huh. Nah. It is dangerous. Nah, who made it? I'm assuming, you know, some guy with a big brain. Boston Dynamics. Yeah, Boston Dynamics makes it look real. No, those made it? I'm assuming some guy with a big brain. Boston Dynamics.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Yeah, Boston Dynamics makes it look real. No, those are the ones that dance, right? They dance and do that stuff. Yeah, they dance. Yeah, they're cute. This one has been bred to kill. Yeah, the military already has a couple. There you go.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Who's in charge of this dog? I mean, that's an absolute cannon on its back. It's AI itself. They're communicating with each other. No, no, no. They don't know how to. They don't know how to talk to anybody. Who's controlling this?
Starting point is 01:27:25 No, someone's controlling that thing. Whose dog is this? Whose dog is this? Wait until you illegally park somewhere, and this thing shoots you in the head because it's just done with you. So this is a city police department's dog? Oh, yeah. This is the new canine car?
Starting point is 01:27:39 Yeah, this is the canine unit. Don't run a stop sign. It will put a hole the size of a beach ball in your body with that. Where's it sniffered or smell out the drugs that I potentially have on me? It doesn't need to sniff. It has x-ray vision. It can just see right through your body. Yeah, this stupid dog.
Starting point is 01:27:52 I'll kick it over on its side. I'd be careful doing that. No, you've got to attack it like Steve Irwin used to. Rest in peace. Remember silence? Like he used to attack those crocodiles. You've got to come from the back on this thing. This thing's got an electronic force field around it,
Starting point is 01:28:05 so if you touch it, it fucking launches you. I think it's like a bear. It can't turn left. Some bears can only turn left or turn right. They're like NASCAR drivers. You just got to go from the other side so they can't see you. If you've been watching too many of the outtakes and the bloopers of these videos,
Starting point is 01:28:18 you're not watching the real ones. Of what? The highlight packages. Of these things? Yeah. The die doesn't have to turn. The gun just rotates i throw my pillow at my front door at my door in my room shuts it give me a fucking pillow and knock
Starting point is 01:28:31 this thing over right from the side one of those things it will turn sideways that thing will be like a ninja star boom dog on its side now it is dangerous like when you have a firework you know out here in indiana you can buy a bunch of fireworks, like little massive. You can buy blocks of them that shoot off like nine at a time. You know, those things turn sideways. Oh, yeah, it is a problem. OK, you do have to potentially run. And there was a moment where me and Kobe Fleener were running through a field and there was fireworks exploding around us. It was a wild time.
Starting point is 01:29:02 I understand that that could happen when I knock this dog over with a pillow throw from the side. So everybody just needs to stay away from the mouth of the dog that's shooting fucking grenades. If you knock this thing over, it's going to turn into red protocol and it will come hunting. I don't even know what that means. Or a cell where it's just going to self-destruct and blow both of you up.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Can this thing sniff COVID, AJ? Is this thing a COVID sniffing dog? We need more of these then. You would hope so. They trained like four dogs to sniff COVID, AJ? Is this thing a COVID-sniffing dog? We need more of these then. You would hope so. They trained like four dogs to sniff COVID, then they just stopped. What happened? Remember the Miami Heat rolled that out.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Hey, don't worry about coming to the game. All right, get a little bit early because there is a dog-sniffing line that you have to stop through. It's going to hold you up five, ten minutes depending upon if you have COVID or drugs on you. Okay, what do you have? We have COVID have covid sniffing
Starting point is 01:29:45 dogs that was eight months into the yeah it was real it was how come we aren't getting more of these dogs we objective number one is getting fucking caesar the dog whisperer to all the dogs that he can get to and gets covid on their noses what are we even doing and then we they kind of put that on the back burner, it seemed like. And then now I just heard of them again. I guess there is still these. How come that wasn't the answer? Dogs have shown up in humans' lives for a long time and saved the day.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Of course. It seems like down in Miami, they had a couple German shepherds that said, hospital, hospital, hospital. How come we weren't trying to recreate that? I can tell you why. A certain doctor wasn't making money off of those dollars. Oh my god. When did you get in there?
Starting point is 01:30:33 What is this? I know Dr. Dump has a list. I know Connor sometimes is in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of a sudden, now you. My list is short and distinguished, just like my... Your Johnson? Your penis?
Starting point is 01:30:54 Brain turn on? Are you talking about your penis? No. Okay. You were talking about like your... You were referencing a person. Your cube life? Cube life.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Yeah, your cube life. Short and distinguished. Didn't Trent Delfer cure COVID at his football facility, didn't he? Oh, they had the anti-COVID spray. We know why. They show that spray on the NFL commercials. It's actually pretty cool. It was just Windex.
Starting point is 01:31:17 He had like a – it was almost like a fire hose. You got everything spraying out of it too. It looked like he was going gardening. He wasn't. He was killing things, not growing things. You what i mean he was he was taking covet out but those dogs i will still not understand how that was an objective one through fucking 10 million for how we get out of this i think once they found out you just need a little bit of jack links beef jerky or something kind of throws the scent off they were you know letting a lot through
Starting point is 01:31:42 like oh shit actually 40 people and you had covid all right let's talk about football listen those dogs do not get distracted by beef jerky okay these dogs are smarter than you you all right you son of a bitch take it easy on these highly sophisticated you know they send some dogs through like navy seals training yeah oh yeah yeah fauci heard that there are dogs sniffing COVID, and he said, no way. Oh, come on. I will put my.40 caliber bullet right through that thing's head. All right. Why wouldn't he want the dogs?
Starting point is 01:32:15 He's killing beagles. AJ, shut up. Hey, wait, what? Why is it AJ? All right. We don't need it. All right. We don't need that to continue.
Starting point is 01:32:27 You know, who knows what is what. I'm just curious. Sorry, guys. I'm asking questions that I'm sure viewers have. Yeah. Hey, this is not false information. This is stuff we've seen. This is talking sports because it was a Miami Heat game.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Yeah, and the Miami Heat had the answers. Yeah. Tell my dog that. All of a sudden. To put a chair on the top of the dogs, it was in Paris. They could figure out 97%. Somewhere in Paris, there was
Starting point is 01:32:54 a bunch of dogs. There are COVID-19 dogs. The French are holding out. Typical French. The Belgium... What's that all about? They held out. They always hold out. What is the deal?
Starting point is 01:33:07 I mean, think about the American Revolution. They came so late to the party, they just had to clean up all the aisles in the sea. I mean, it's been going on. What about the Tom's River? That's right. The Tom's? Tom's River, New Jersey? No.
Starting point is 01:33:21 No, no, no. Thames. Thames. The Thames River. Thames. Yes. Yeah, there it is. They had some no, no. Thames. Thames. The Thames River. Thames. Yes. Yeah, there it is. They had some war over there.
Starting point is 01:33:28 They had a French Revolution. Yeah, they did. I mean, yeah, they did cut the heads off of the, I believe, the king and queen of the time. You know more about this than me, it appears. I did have to take elementary French for five years, so a lot of French knowledge. Hey, me too. I took a lot of French classes as well. I did not know anything about that. Oui, oui.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Hey, oui, oui. Ça va? Ça va bien. Et toi? Ça va. I could have said, I'm all right because we're not talking about sports. We need to get back into that because I'll tell you what,
Starting point is 01:34:01 those waters over there are treacherous. But I think we had the dog. I think we had the answer all along. And I hope history tells that story. Let's talk about some things going on around the NFL. Andy Reid said, I'm seeing things I've never seen before. AJ said, I'm seeing things I've never seen before. And that is very fair because I think the Chiefs have looked like a team
Starting point is 01:34:20 that we haven't seen before since this new Chiefs has been created. This is via the Kansas City Star at KC Star. Do we have independent newspapers still, or are they all in by the Athletic? No, I think they're independent. Shout out to the Kansas City Star still doing it. Indy Star still doing it? Yeah. Shout out to the Indy Star still doing it.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Really? Shout out to the Star. I didn't know that either, by the way. I did not know that. Still doing it. I think so, yeah. Let's go. All right. Congrats to the Andy Starr. Really? Shout to the Starr. I didn't know that either, by the way. I did not know that. Still doing it. I think so, yeah. Let's go. All right.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Congrats to the Starrs. Mellinger is saying, I'm seeing things that I haven't seen before, Chiefs coach Andy Reid said after. Does he sound bewildered? He is, and so are we. Do you think maybe, you know, because Patrick Mahomes said that they're seeing coverages they've never seen before. Nobody's ever seen before.
Starting point is 01:35:04 He said this a couple weeks ago. And now he said anytime you gotta build something great you gotta go through some of these types of things to get you know kind of a house is built uh much better on stone than it is on sand you know so there's some things that have to harden you and make the foundation and they have to have some tough times after having an incredible start to this entire thing do you think andy reed is also confused about what teams are doing to the chiefs do you think that is what he's chatting about or do you think he's strictly talking about how his chiefs are performing i took it out the first time i saw this as like he's bewildered by things that his own team is doing at times that they haven't
Starting point is 01:35:40 done in the past that's what i took it as not like, I'm super confused at what these guys are throwing at me. I've only been coaching for 45 years. I don't know what they're doing. I didn't take it as that. Yeah, me neither, by the way. But it is worthy of a conversation because whose fault is it, right? The defense that is on that team has 32nd, 31st, 32nd, 32nd, 32nd, 32nd, 31st in rankings and a lot of stats that I think mean something at this point.
Starting point is 01:36:04 There are some stats I think that don't mean anything that maybe have a little bit more weight in conversation than they should, but the Chiefs being 32nd in turnovers, points allowed, yards allowed, yards per play allowed, first downs allowed, and being 31st in pass yards allowed, receiving yards allowed, rush yards allowed. I mean, it is a bad looking operation over there is that under andy reed or is andy reed just associated with the offense is he talking about
Starting point is 01:36:30 the defense there as well i mean what is andy reed completely bewildered by and is he just as lost as the rest of us who are massive fans of this football team that has been very impressive to watch all right that's got to be the most frustrating part being a head coach like andy reed you've seen it all and you don't really know exactly what the answer is to get your guys to execute like complete some easy balls get your your stud quarterback feeling good about it again and protecting them i don't know that's that's why the coaches get paid paid good money but it also is setting up one of the great stories though for the kansas city chiefs they figure
Starting point is 01:37:02 this thing out and they go on a run when it actually matters this will be like oh man remember when everyone thought the chiefs were garbage when they wrote them off and they said everyone's done and they're they're washed like and they can't do it anymore like this will just be part of the story oh it would be so beautiful and maybe it is something that they need and you know patrick mahomes alluded to that and they're all kind of openly chatting about the sucking you know. And they're all kind of openly chatting about the sucking. You know what I mean? They're all kind of, they've all admitted like, hey, this is not what we want to do.
Starting point is 01:37:31 This is not how we should be doing it. They've all kind of gotten to the point, it seems like, which I don't want to say is rock bottom, but they've reached a point where they're like, okay, we have to learn from this. This has to grow us. And if they have any good culture, good locker room, they go on a run here. And if they do, it'll be an incredible storybook ending.
Starting point is 01:37:46 And remember, this team's dynasty was founded whenever they were down and out. Remember that playoff run when they were down 20, down 10, down 14? The reason why they became beloved by everybody is because they were able to flip a switch, come back and win. It was like, oh, these underdogs, these come-from-behind guys are kind of taking over everything. So maybe it will. Maybe that is in their genetic makeup over there for that team as well
Starting point is 01:38:13 with how they've come to be who they are. But there is shit happening where you see Patrick Mahomes miss a throw, and it's like, what's going on here? A throw that he would never miss. Then they're rushing four. They're kind of sitting everybody back. What the Steelers did to Josh Allen, what maybe the Bucs did to Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 01:38:33 being able to get pressure, having Patrick on the move, him missing the throws he normally makes. There's just a couple of things that if they can figure out, they can get back on track. You would think, right? You would think they'd be able to get back on track. I mean, they definitely have the talent to get back on track. We know that. And Peyton and Eli talked about it last night. Remember Peyton's asking Tom, what are you like zone or man or
Starting point is 01:38:51 whatever? And he said, yeah, match up. Yeah. Match up with our guys one-on-one. That's good. Like, yeah, we love when you do that. Don't worry. Or we don't have any issue with that, but it's the same thing. I think teams are trying to do to the chiefs a little bit. If you can't run, you can't pound the ball on them and threaten them, they can sit back in that zone and hope that you just get greedy and that you're not going to sit there and take the easy completion all day long and eventually you're going to try to go over the top
Starting point is 01:39:12 and that's when you capitalize. Zito said there's a follow-up quote from Andy Reid in my ear. I've seen our boys do it and do the pieces. We just don't do it now. Reid admitted during his opening speech on Sunday, October 24th, we didn't do it offensively. We didn't finish it. Defensively, we really have to get both sides to play well.
Starting point is 01:39:31 We have to eliminate the fluctuations and penalties. These are things that weren't common with us. I see things that I've never seen before. Guys I saw performing didn't do certain things. We're right there to do the right thing and make a difference, and it's going the other way. We have to fix that. Andy Reid also noted that out of the kansas city star article from mellinger i believe at mellinger m-e-l-l-i-n-g-e-r um yeah all right will they be able to get back on track i have no idea because
Starting point is 01:39:59 when the ball is bouncing your way it's great once it starts bouncing the other way how do you get it to turn back in your favor how do you get big mo to go back in your your favor because there's always one or two plays in every game that potentially turn an entire game around and everybody has a friend potentially that in games there's always a lucky bounce or a lucky break or they they get good cards and it seems to happen to that person more often than it happens to other people. Once that person loses it, how do they get it back? Or is it just something that is, you know, just a little bit of a minor setback before a major comeback?
Starting point is 01:40:34 I'm not 100% sure. It's a fascinating situation. And, like, Mahomes fumbling when he's scrambling. Tyreek Hill dropping, like, passes going right through his hands and getting picked off. Like, there are so many things that they haven't really done in the past. And every week it's like the Chiefs are going to figure it out. The Chiefs are going to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:40:49 And then all this shit just continues to happen. It's almost like the bounces just aren't going their way and they might never not again. In years past when Patrick, they might. Absolutely. They might. More likely than not. Yeah, let's assume it will.
Starting point is 01:41:01 But in years past, those fumbles like bounce right back. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like they bounce right back or they hit perfectly that it bounces up. And there's a throw that instead of slipping out of Patrick Mahomes' hands and going to the other team where he just bats it basically, that thing somehow goes over the person's head and is a completion for 35 yards.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Like those are the things that were happening. Those magical how is this happening moments were going on the first couple years. Now they're facing a little bit of reality, a little bit of a downturn. How will they be able to create their own luck, create their own fortune, and get back to it? And it's always your technique. Get back to your fundamentals. Technique. You do the right thing.
Starting point is 01:41:42 Everything else will fall into place. And that's what they need to do, AJ. Yeah, it only takes one big win against a team, against a good team, I think, to get them back on track. And a lot of times if you're down early and your things aren't going well too, like everybody starts to press to try to make the plays you feel like need to happen instead of just having fun, being loose, and doing your job. So, yeah, I don't know when they'll figure it out,
Starting point is 01:42:05 but they need to figure it out pretty quickly if they want to salvage this season. They got a great opportunity this weekend. Yeah. They got the Giants. All right, and they're 10-point favorites, so I don't think anybody on earth will be betting on them minus 10. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:42:17 No, I might. I might, too. If we're picking, if we're just picking, like we do against the spread every single week, cool. But when it comes time to actually go into your app and put real money down i don't know how many people are going that's probably a game a lot of people are just going to stay away from that's right i would do it i would do it right now giants minus 10 right is that what it is giants plus 10 i mean that's a yeah i mean
Starting point is 01:42:39 yeah i'd take the chiefs minus 10 all right too, but you're not putting any actual money down. No, but if I was a betting man, as they say, I would put a little bit down. Okay. But also, as betting people, you and I, you know what I mean, and everybody here, there's some games you should just be like, all right, I'm not going to bet on this game. Eliminate that one.
Starting point is 01:43:01 All right, I'm not going to bet on that game. That feels like a potential one of those games, unless you know something that, you know, an A.J. might, because he's been thereiminate that one. Alright, I'm not going better on that game. That feels like a potential one of those games, unless you know something that you know, and AJ might, because he's been there, done that with football teams, they might come out and blow the fucking doors off of the Giants. All these conversations, Andy Reid saying, I don't know what's going on. Patrick
Starting point is 01:43:15 Mahomes saying, we need these moments. Travis Kelsey coming. I mean, that is maybe you know what? I'll put money on it too, AJ. We got the Chiefs in a bounce back game this week. Hey, Chiefs are a bounce-back game this weekend. Hey, Chiefs are back. X-Factor's still fucking gone, but the Chiefs are all the way back. They had a game of silence for X-Factor's super fandom being over, all right,
Starting point is 01:43:35 because he had turned into a monster. Chiefs are back this weekend. I love it, AJ. I fucking love it. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these beautiful people into a glorious Aaron Rodgers Tuesday evening. We're back tomorrow with Coach's Upchuck Wednesday and more talk about the world that is, the world that was, and the world it's going to be. All right. That didn't make any sense, but I do appreciate you.
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