The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 533 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 9 Recap, Darius Rucker, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 8, 2021

On today's show, Pat, AJ, and the boys overreact to everything from a crazy week 9 of the NFL season with the Cowboys getting blown out by the Broncos, the Raiders losing to the Giants, the Cardinals ...beating the hell out of the 9ers without Kyler Murray and DHop leading to questions about whether or not Kyle Shanahan is the guy in San Francisco, the Chiefs squeezing by the Packers in Jordan Love's first start in Green Bay, all the fallout and chatter from the Aaron Rodgers conversation on Friday, and everything else that happened in a wild week 9 (:29-45:57, 48:00-1:31:47).  Joining the program to overreact to everything that happened this weekend including Sam Darnold continuing to stink, why the Browns suddenly got better without Odell, which teams have reason for concern, who is a legitimate contender, and which teams are best positioned in the AFC and NFC (1:31:49-1:41:13). Later, Grammy Award winner, lead singer of Hootie & The Blowfish, absolute legend, Darius Rucker joins Pat and AJ Hawk to chat about his upcoming solo tour, what it was like touring in the heyday of Hootie & The Blowfish, his song writing process, if he ever forgets the words to his songs when performing live, if he hates performing any of his songs at this point in his career, how his golf game his, what he thinks of the Dolphins this year, and much more (1:42:32-1:55:24). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello! It is Overreaction Monday, November 8th, 2021 years after the year zero was found, but what does that mean? None of us know. Darius Rucker stops by today, Darius Butler stops by today, AJ Hawk, all the boys, and Fallout reaction from the games and the Aaron Rodgers conversation on Friday. It's quite a day, we can't thank you enough for joining us. If you enjoy the show by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend a friend if not just act like it never happened let's get to it yesterday on an nfl sunday that was absolutely absurd and insane where the underdogs became alphas five times and teams that we never thought could lose lost the teams that we never thought would win and it was absolute absurdity but today while you watch along at youtube.com forward slash
Starting point is 00:00:47 the Pat McAfee Show, we're going to have to talk about everything that happened in the NFL. Everything. Everything. Everything? Everything. Everything. And one of those things is Aaron Rodgers did not play
Starting point is 00:01:02 for the Green Bay Packers yesterday. No, he didn't. At Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner, Tone Diggs is here, the host of Hammer. Done! Which airs 15 minutes after this show ends every Monday through Friday at youtube.com forward slash hammer. Done!
Starting point is 00:01:17 That Chiefs-Packers game is going to be quite a conversation piece for the time going forward because whenever we get to the offseason where there is potentially no guaranteed money left for aaron rogers and we all know what happened this past offseason with aaron rogers and i know i think more than anybody else what happened to aaron rogers this past weekend on the internet yeah it was hot it was hot it was hot in the kitchen of the internet and uh you know a lot of people question my credibility out there a lot of people questioning the way I go about doing what I do and I completely
Starting point is 00:01:54 understand that and I guess I was supposed to it at certain points in those conversations and I mean he had a prepared speech to answer what everybody had been saying about him in the situation in a pretty one-sided affair, I think. And mostly because Aaron didn't speak to anybody, right? He hadn't spoken to anybody. So I guess he, you know, whenever he came on, he said, listen, I'm going to come correct. He had pages of notes. And I feel like I did ask some follow-up.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Hey, there's going to be people that say this and there's going to be people that say this, and there's going to be people that say this, and all that stuff. But it was literally an opportunity to hear what Aaron Rodgers was thinking about the entire situation. And that led to one thing to another. And this, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha Ha ha it's our guy Fuck that guy I mean that was all weekend But there's a lot of people saying that I potentially Should have you know pressured him with more Questions or whatever well the only reason we're in this Situation is because whenever he said he was
Starting point is 00:02:54 Immunized none of the People that went to you know school and All these people that aren't getting any By the way these people are I think those people Are even questioning me for some of the stuff that I had in That whole world. I didn't ask enough tough follow-ups. Well, if that happened then, we wouldn't even be in this situation.
Starting point is 00:03:09 But we're in this situation. Now that we're in it, it is hot. I mean, it is a hot situation. Now, I didn't let it affect me that much, to be honest. I just decided that everybody pretty much knows when they're watching that clip that the guy in the tank top on the left side of the screen probably stitch okay sure which is accurate when it comes to things like what we had been talking about in that situation like yo i i did not have a 500 page report i am vaccinated hell yeah but I am also a guy that would like to hear people's thoughts.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I like to hear people's reasons behind things. And I think the reason why I like to do that is because I'm naturally a curious person, but also I've been very lucky to get to meet so many different people and types of people from, you know, all walks of life, all socioeconomic status, literally all of them, from every part of the country, every single sexuality, every single, everything. I've gotten an opportunity in this incredibly lucky life to meet a lot of people. And since I'm naturally curious,
Starting point is 00:04:19 and I think I kind of have the aura of welcoming, I've had a lot of conversations with a lot of people. It is probably the coolest thing that I wish upon my kid, if I ever have it, if I ever have a kid someday. Hopefully, my wife and I will be able to have a kid, but I hope that that is something that my kid gets to experience because it is enlightening it is awesome I've traveled I've got a chance to go to like what five of the seven continents I think
Starting point is 00:04:50 I've gotten a chance to meet a lot of people from all over and if you're a natural conversationalist which I think I am even if there's a language barrier I try to figure it out once you start learning about people you quickly realize like oh that's why that person feels this way about this particular item. And then you meet somebody from over here and it's like, oh, it makes sense that you feel that way about that because this is what you have gone through in your life. And oh, that's all. I never thought about, I would have never thought about that. That's really cool. And then that is kind of how I have become, I think, a unifier. I think I'm kind of a unifier. I think I'm not 100% sure. I feel like I have friends all over the map. I feel like I have a lot of relationships. I think a lot of people view
Starting point is 00:05:37 this show as a place to kind of just come and get away from all that shit. So I like to think that the reason why Aaron came on the show to say his side is because I do believe that we are a natural, I would like to hear why. And then once you find out why, you either go, ah, that's fucking stupid, or it's like, okay, that makes sense. But at least you get a chance to hear why and how. The fact that he was allergic to two and then his research and 500 page report and then obviously everybody said that he consulted with dr joe rogan yeah joe rogan not a doctor by the way i don't want to i don't want to spew any misinformation
Starting point is 00:06:14 but there was a couple parts of that conversation that people were just leaving out whenever they were judging the entire conversation like him saying about his medical team that he had and then also following up to potentially chat with Joe Rogan as a consultant and they got latched onto that but I knew Wow Aaron said Joe Rogan I knew immediately upon him saying Joe because in my head I was actually thinking like oh this sounds like a guy who has a lot of money a lot of access to a lot of things a lot of research is probably being done I say this kind of sounds like while he was talking i was like this kind of seems like the rogan
Starting point is 00:06:47 this kind of sounds from the same angle and then i thought to myself if he says if he says he does it people if he says joe rogan's name everybody this is gonna be big because the the mere mention of joe ro's name, whoo, it goes. Now, he chooses for that to happen. He dives right into the politics world. He's got to do that. But as somebody who observes reports, lives on the internet, in my head, I'm thinking to myself, actually, people saw it. If he says Rogan's name right now, the whole place is going to go bananas.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And it was a half a beat later. I've even got a chance to chat with my now friend, Joe Rogan, I almost, I almost lost it. I did ask some followups by the way, though, I asked some followups about what his medical team did. He said,
Starting point is 00:07:36 he said he didn't want to get into that. And I don't know if that's because he doesn't know it as thoroughly, or if he doesn't want that to be portrayed as the right answer, which I think is how we got to this entire point to begin with, where Aaron, we I mean, we all have brains. He does as well. When he said, yeah, I'm immunized or whatever. He was definitely trying to get out of that conversation. Yes. He even said I think he even said if they would have followed up, I would have told him. But in that time, it felt like everybody was kind of chasing who was vaccinated who wasn't vaccinated well let's go ahead and make sure
Starting point is 00:08:07 everybody knows there was different rules for this entire thing and i think he definitely you know tried to skirt or miss he tried to get out of there yeah he tried to win that moment i think now i don't know if he openly said that in the conversation but i think we all with the brain say it but i honestly believe he did that because he legitimately thought I don't want to have to be the guy fucking talking for this this is just how I feel I don't want to be the guy that has to every single day tell why I feel how I feel if you remember Kirk Cousins Carson Wentz oh they had to come out and talk about it like four or five times imagine if it was Aaron Rodgers I just said Carson Wentz and Kirk Cousins who are
Starting point is 00:08:43 only known basically in a small if Aaron Rodgers is now just had Carson Wentz and Kirk Cousins who are only known basically in a small – if Aaron Rodgers is now not this, he becomes the face of it. I think he knew he was going to have to become the poster boy for it, which he is right now, by the way. But I think that is why he potentially misled, which I think he alluded to. So I guess I could have pressured him a little bit more on that, but I think it was because of the, hey, I don't want to have to be the one talking for this every single day, but just because I feel a certain way about it doesn't mean everybody,
Starting point is 00:09:10 which is the bodily autonomy thing. Now, granted there have been a lot of incredibly intelligent people that I have a lot of respect for. And once again, this is goes back to me getting a chance to chat with a lot of different people with a lot of different backgrounds. And a lot of people have a lot of respect for actually don't necessarily agree on everything
Starting point is 00:09:28 which is in their world which is crazy but a lot of people said that uh we allowed him to spew misinformation and everything like that for that i apologize uh because i don't know what the fuck the misinformation is yeah they say i wish i did i honestly wish did. I don't know enough about that. And it wasn't me saying it. It was Aaron answering what has been attacking him for the last three days. I feel like he had the right to defend himself. If I did not get the key points out about the misinformation, I would like to let everybody know. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:10:06 But also, I think a big part of his message was like, you should be doing this research yourself to find out what's best for your body. So if our platform potentially enabled that, isn't that an overall positive? Because then people will learn that the vaccine is good for them. More people get vaccinated. Here's the stats. Here's the numbers. Boom. As long as people looked into it, then there might be some more people who decide that, OK, because Aaron Rodgers told me to look into it, I did look into it.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I'm potentially allergic to the same thing looking to do the same thing maybe it's right for me like it was right for aaron to not do it but anyways what i'm saying with all this is overall positive a lot of negative and i do apologize for potentially not hammering home the science and stats like I should have, I guess a lot of people are saying. But also, there's no way you were thinking that that's what I was going to do. Like, there's no way anybody had that as the expectation. And I appreciate and respect everybody afterwards, you know, thinking that that is what I can do. And for that, i am humbled okay i am incredibly humbled that you can look at that screen and you can see what i do which i'm very lucky to do what i do with the boys on daily basis
Starting point is 00:11:14 and i get a chance to do a lot of very cool things and if you immediately thought hey this guy this guy fucking knows the ins and outs of the covet situation. Oh, yeah. He's the only one. This is the only guy. This is the only guy that knows all things. He should be putting Aaron's feet to the fire. If you thought that, I am incredibly humbled, honored, and I promise at some point in my life, I will try to work to become that person that you can rely on. Maybe not, but I will try to become that person.
Starting point is 00:11:41 So to those people, I would like to say thank you for the incredible honor of thinking that that is something I'd be able to do. I apologize. I'm not. But once again, your peers were in the room when he said, I'm immunized and just let it fly in the middle of the entire thing. Like, hey, are people trying to slip by the goalie here with how they're answering? are people trying to slip by the goalie here with how they're answering? So I would just like potentially a little bit of a fair treatment as, you know, as all,
Starting point is 00:12:10 all as journalists have. That's right. Hell yeah. That's what I would like. I think it was the glasses. I think when you put the glasses on people, I thought, Oh,
Starting point is 00:12:15 this guy, he's a pathologist. And by the way, before the conversation, I even said, I'm putting the glasses on. I'm putting a glass on and look smart to too smart. I look too smart. That's on me. And I assume they looked at AJ and said said that guy doesn't even have a brain that guy doesn't even have a brain over there but it was a wild weekend i'm happy we can
Starting point is 00:12:34 potentially continue to learn about each other and enjoy this great sport but aaron rogers not playing yesterday was a big story so obviously with the day that was kind of i think forgettable in a lot of people's minds because a lot of teams didn't show up that normally show up, and then teams showed up that don't normally show up. Is that an anomaly or is this a new trend? Everybody goes, this is not the new trend. That was an anomaly. So none of the storylines really mean shit at this point going into Week 10.
Starting point is 00:12:58 It's just kind of that. So this story is still continuing to go, as it will probably forever until whatever happens. The next one. But I think Aaron Rodgers, football-wise, won a lot of leverage last night. Yeah. I think Aaron Rodgers won a lot of leverage last night. Not that Jordan Love doesn't have the capability of being a great quarterback at some point.
Starting point is 00:13:21 There was moments in there. There was a couple throws on the run where he looked very incredibly comfortable, smooth, athletic. He had a couple throws that looked great, a couple decisions that looked fantastic, but then there was these fadeaways that were happening and these checks that probably weren't happening and then obviously the miscommunication on the snap with that whole thing and the pick. I mean, it is just, there's a lot of things that happen that you go, okay, maybe he'll be great at some point, but that time's nowhere near now. With the team that we currently have built to win now, if we had to resort to Jordan Love, we'd be potentially fucked for at least a little bit before he maybe gets his feet under him.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Now, if he has to play next week against Seahawks and Aaron can't play because he can only come back on Saturday, I'd assume he's going to play by then. Yeah, LeFleur already said if he comes back on Saturday, he's starting on Saturday. And LaFleur, by the way, there's probably an even bigger conversation piece about LaFleur's reputation now with how yesterday went. Well, with Jordan Love, maybe he'll be able to get there in a few years. But ain't nobody that's a Packers fan is hoping, you know what, for the next couple years, let's just wait for Jordan to get good, because our team is good. Nobody's thinking that. So everybody that was defending Jordan last night from the Packers fan base, I appreciate your loyalty to the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I appreciate the hell out of that. But what I think we're all saying whenever we say, oh, Aaron Rodgers can basically say this is what you're going to pay me and this is how we're going to do it, if he wanted to. I'm not saying he's going to do that. But if Aaron Rodgers wanted to, he could walk in there and go, hey, listen, we've just seen it, right? You're what, two, three years out maybe?
Starting point is 00:14:46 One, two, three years. Do you have two, three years with this roster with how much you paid everybody? No way. How you paid everybody? You don't. This is what it's going to take. Keep me around. I'd like to make some more decisions.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Cobb, big-time player, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah, maybe I should do a little bit more of that. And then, bang, they're back and running because Aaron scores what? Probably 50 last night against that Chiefs team? I mean, I don't think it would have been close. Special teams are terrible. Horrible.
Starting point is 00:15:12 But Aaron had to be watching that, okay? And I assume he was. I assume Aaron was watching that game. It was probably very uncomfortable. I was potentially, you know, thinking about how he would be watching the game as they showed different angles and stuff. Jordan Love walking up to the line. I thought to myself, like, Aaron's probably like,
Starting point is 00:15:29 what the fuck's that? I fucking knew it. Jordan, throw it right here. Throw it right here. No, something else happens that you can only garner from experience, by the way. We're comparing Jordan Love to Aaron fucking Rogers. It's not fair for Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It hasn't been fair for Jordan Love since literally day one of this entire shitstorm that has begun. I think Aaron and Jordan Love get along. I don't think they have any beef at all. But you're comparing him to Aaron Rodgers. And I think yesterday we all learned a lot that the Packers without Aaron are much different than the Packers with Aaron. Green Bay Packers owner Ty Schmidt, your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, you hit the nail on the head. Aaron. Premier Packers owner Ty Schmidt, your thoughts. Yeah, I mean, you hit the nail
Starting point is 00:16:04 on the head. And like you said, I mean, LaFleur I think is going to take it on the chin big time because everyone was saying, kind of going into the week, we'll see how good he is with his game plan. And he just, I mean, he admitted after the game, like it wasn't very good. And granted, like the line wasn't great, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Like you said, I don't know how you could look at that with the roster and everything that's set up and be like, you know what? After this year, it doesn't matter. We're going to have to get rid of Rodgers. Like, people are acting like the Chiefs aren't the 85 Bears. Their defense fucking stinks. Oh, hey, they might have found their mojo last night.
Starting point is 00:16:36 They scored seven points, and it was just like some of the things, too, like going away from the run when A.J. Dillon was just chewing up yards. Like, that didn't really make any sense. The special teams, I mean, I've been saying it for how long. Like it's going to end up losing them a game. It lost them the game yesterday. Like Jordan Love wasn't great. But ultimately, I mean, the Rams get beat.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Like everyone got beat yesterday pretty much. So if Rodgers comes back on Sunday in the long run, like it doesn't matter. Yeah, in college football, some top teams struggled and lost. That's right. In the NFL, the same thing seemed to have happened on the bye week of the Buccaneers. You know what I mean? Which?
Starting point is 00:17:11 So that's pretty fascinating to think. They're probably only going to get better coming out of the other side of this bye week. But it was a shitstorm for everybody. And I think there should be a little conversation about the more we watch the NFL, the less we know. As sports gambling continues its pilgrimage into every Middlesex village and farm. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Okay. Around the country. never gamble enough money to drop you out of your current tax bracket or lift you into another tax bracket unless you're hitting for insane odds that project you into a higher tax percentage being paid to the government because after these games take place yesterday dac meant nothing coming back to the Dallas Cowboys. Cooper Rush, remember that whole thing? That happened less
Starting point is 00:18:07 than a week ago, or a little bit more than a week ago. Quick math, good numbers, big stats guy after the weekend. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I read a lot of stats. I was tweeted a lot of stats from a lot of people this weekend. Once again, I would like to remain firm on the
Starting point is 00:18:19 stance that it is amazing how stats actually play for both teams in every single argument. It's amazing. It is amazing how stats actually play for both teams in every single argument. It's amazing. It is unbelievable how stats is able to play for everybody. Yeah. How does it happen?
Starting point is 00:18:33 Stats is better than fucking Santa Claus being everywhere at one time. That's right. Stats is on this side. Stats is on that side. Stats is coming in from a whole different party all of a sudden. Stats is both teams and the referees. Make the world go round. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah. I read a lot on this weekend. But Stats would tell you that probably Dak Prescott coming back for the fucking Dallas Cowboys in Jerry World, playing against the Denver Broncos, it stinks. Yeah. The Denver Broncos stink. Stink. They just got rid of their best player, Vaughn Miller.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Stats would tell you, I would assume there's some that would come out from the Mile High City about how they were going to do this whole thing. I assume some stat would be there.
Starting point is 00:19:12 But stats would say, Dak coming back with the energy and that team and everything, they're going to win. They did not. They got fucking murdered. Slaughtered.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Hey, they got slaughtered. Almost as bad as Aaron Rodgers, mine, and Joe Rogan's mentions. That's right. I mean, you're talking about absolutely slaughtered. 30-zip late in the fourth quarter, five minutes left. Zach Press got through for 105 yards or something like that. How's that even happen when they throw the ball all the time?
Starting point is 00:19:41 Zeke didn't go for anything crazy. I don't think Tony Pollard made a couple plays, but he wasn't going bananas. They were just all out stink fest in Dallas. And there's,
Starting point is 00:19:52 these are things we have to think about as we go into the gambling world. Because not only was it Dak and Dallas that just lost, the Bills
Starting point is 00:19:59 lost to the Chaw Pass owner himself. Double guns. Urban Bar and the Jacksonville Jag owner himself. Double guns. Urban Bar in the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jags. Can't do it. Scores six points.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Are you kidding me? They score six points. Jesus. The Buffalo Bills lost to Urban... Josh Allen. Josh Allen lost to Josh Allen. He did.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And the Josh Allen that lost is the Josh Allen that doesn't lose. The other Josh Allen lost to Josh Allen. He did. And the Josh Allen that lost is the Josh Allen that doesn't lose. The other Josh Allen, he's on a losing team. He's a very good player, but he loses a lot. Losing Josh Allen on this particular Sunday, winning Josh Allen by a lot. Fumble, pick, tackle, you name it. Six points for that offense. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:20:49 What the hell? They were up 56-0 in a five-quarter run at some point earlier in this season. They go down to Jacksonville. Jacksonville's the blueprint. Josh Allen's the blueprint to beat the Buffalo Bills. No way. They struggled coming out of the bye week last week
Starting point is 00:21:04 against the Dolphins. Inevitably got the win, and everybody thought the Buffalo Bills? No way. They struggled coming out of the bye week last week against the Dolphins. Inevitably got the win and everybody thought the Buffalo Bills they're back. The Bills are a wagon. I love the Bills. I love everything about the way they play. They look like a tough team. They have fun out there. The fan base is absurd and insane. Once the snow starts, hey, once the
Starting point is 00:21:19 snow starts falling, the ketchup and mustard flying in the parking lot, tables getting busted, the B the parking lot. Tables getting busted. The bills are back. This was exciting times. He lost a fucking, this is Urban Meyer's first game ever won in the United States, isn't it? That's right. He can do it.
Starting point is 00:21:35 How's that even happen? And they just beat him. I mean, that was, that was 9-6. Yeah. Disgusting game. And it calls for an actual conversation to be had. The Monday Night Manning curse might be real. There was a lot that had happened through the first couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Russell Wilson, Gronk, you name it, you go down the list of guests on Monday Night Manning, either getting hurt the next week or losing the next week. It's all coincidence. getting hurt the next week or losing the next week. And it's all coincidence. You know, it's hard. It's hard to blame a conversation with Peyton and Eli over there on ESPN to start at 813 p.m. But Josh Allen goes on there.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And the whole Internet says my man and curse do not go on there. And everybody. No, it's a Jags, dude. It's fucking chop house. There's no way. There's no way. They're going to chop house Duval. There's no way. The fact that the Monday Night Manning curse was able to execute
Starting point is 00:22:29 a mush on Josh Allen against the Jacksonville Jaguars warrants conversation about the Monday Night Manning curse. It really does. Mind-boggling. Who's going on there tonight? Who's going to stop the curse? Who's going to debunk it? Because the Madden curse was a real thing for a while
Starting point is 00:22:45 and then it stopped. Right. People started doing it. I think it was Tom Brady. It was Brady, yeah. Yeah, Tom Brady who's debunked every single thing.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Stats. By the way, stats have had a hell of a run against Tom Brady. Yeah. Hey, Tom Brady and stats have been in the deep end for the last 20 some years,
Starting point is 00:23:01 both sides. Tom Brady's tagging in stats, hot tag. Yeah. And also fighting stats every single time. He's done that with the Monday Night Manning thing. Off tonight. They got Brady and that's their off tonight.
Starting point is 00:23:14 They got Brady. Yeah, he lost to the Saints after going on. Oh, man. Oh, no. They got... It was Kelsey and Wilson. Kelsey's back, by the way. Hey, he's a big dog. Don't Kelsey and Wilson. Kelsey's back, by the way, kind of. Hey, he's a big dog. Don't ever forget it.
Starting point is 00:23:28 That's right. Ask Mahomes, Mike. He stinks this year. I don't think he stinks in general, but he stinks this year. That's a good way to say it. I said what you guys thought I was going to say. You thought I was going to say stinks? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Packers defense is good. Packers defense is unbelievable. It is good, but Mahomes stinks this year. Yep. We can say it. It's okay. He's still very, very good, Mahomes stinks this year. We can say it's okay. He's still very, very good, but he stinks this year.
Starting point is 00:23:56 It has to be the tick-tocking and the jinxing and the standing and the wife and the kid and the baby. Not that that's anything. I'm just saying maybe potentially in the tick-tocking and that whole thing getting you know, getting in. Is that what it is? Is it paralysis by overanalysis because of all the other things that are potentially happening in his life? He's now owner of a baseball team, Baseball Stinks.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Yeah, the worst. He decided to sign up and strap himself into a stink rocket that is baseball by buying a terrible baseball team. Yeah, they won a World Series a couple years ago, but terrible baseball team. They won a World Series a couple years ago but they do stink. There's a lot of things that we have to think through.
Starting point is 00:24:29 How did we get here with Patrick Mahomes? I don't love it. I hate it. I enjoy watching great be great. I will always be riveted by greatness.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I will always be excited to learn why that motherfucker is the motherfucker and this motherfucker ain't. I will always be excited to learn why that motherfucker's the motherfucker and this motherfucker ain't. Like, I would love, I love that. Patrick Mahomes, MVP, Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:24:53 $500 million, everything, state, foreign commercials. He was at all those, I mean, Celebritat, everything is going. Coors Light.
Starting point is 00:25:00 It was just thrown. Silver Bullet, baby. That's right. Fucking Silver Bullet, baby. It was just thrown. Silver bullet, baby. That's right. Fucking silver bullet, baby. He was handed everything. And it seemed like he was the only guy that was ready for it because his dad was a professional baseball player, grew up in a bullpen, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:25:15 He knows how it is. I would assume the world at some point will catch up to you. How can you navigate those waters to get out of it quickly? They want. They still got to win. By the way, this is conversations happening about the Chiefs after they win games. This is back-to-back. Now, granted, that Packers team without Aaron did not look great,
Starting point is 00:25:34 but that Packers defense looked unbelievable. Special teams played great, even though the Packers played terrible. Okafor jumped over your fucking lineman, okay, and blocked that ball. Laces were back. That snapper's got to figure that out. Mason Crosby needs to stop taking all the heat that he's taking. Taking it on the shins big time.
Starting point is 00:25:50 They're saying he needs to do it. Bojo, incredible punter. Snapper, brand-new snapper. Rookie snapper, first NFL game or whatever. They need to figure it out. I'm not mailing it in on them at all, but things change in the game for the snapper his point of when the laces were you know perfect for cory behorquez which is what the snapper is being judged on for field goals it doesn't have to be perfect but it's supposed to just be in the area every single time snap at the exact same let's
Starting point is 00:26:21 assume maybe that when you get in your first NFL game, and, you know, it's a big game. Yeah, game of the week. Kansas City Chiefs. Let's assume there's a chance that maybe your ball speed changes a little bit. Maybe you throw the ball faster than you threw it in practice, so your point of where the laces were perfect might be six inches different than what it was before. And maybe they were trying to figure that out on the sideline.
Starting point is 00:26:44 They weren't able to get the consistency. And if that's the case, that snapper's going to be gone before he can even say, I was a snap for the Packers. So he'll have to figure that out. They'll have to figure that out. But everybody automatically blames Mason Crosby. 21-mile-an-hour wind gusts, which also affects the snap, by the way. So this is something that the rookie snapper had to deal with.
Starting point is 00:27:01 But everybody else is able to deal with it, so he's going to have to be able to do so. But he's got bad holds. It seemed like there was a double clutch too, so the timing is off completely. You got Okafor jumping over a dude because the offensive lineman lunged, which you can't do, literally can't do. Offensive line and a field goal
Starting point is 00:27:16 is the worst position in sports. All of sport, all of them. Every single sport. Offensive line, field goal rep, the worst by far. You're actually caught to die slowly. Hey, going to die, need you to do it at a slow fashion. That's right. This ball is going to get off 1.3 seconds, okay, from snap to kick, which is incredibly fast if you think about it.
Starting point is 00:27:42 But you need to hang on for what, 1.4 seconds? So for 1.4 seconds, you need to hang on for what? 1.4 seconds. So for 1.4 seconds, you need to plant your foot down, plant your back foot down. You need to lift up your face, and you need to just eat it. And we expect you to do that maybe for one point, maybe for three points. And if you accidentally just lunge a little bit, the D-line knows, boom, they shed you very quickly, and bang, we're in blocking that thing.
Starting point is 00:28:06 It's a lot that happens. Offensive line position stinks regardless as a life. You know, you're getting beat up, you get no credit, that whole thing. But in the field goal thing, it's terrible. Anyways, guy lunged, clearly. Okafor gets in there and blocks that thing. You could see him. I mean, just look from left to right.
Starting point is 00:28:24 You could see the person that potentially either tripped, fell, or lost their leverage. It's very obvious where he's at. Okafor comes through there, jumps, blocks it. But let's also assume that if that's a clean hold with a clean laces, Crosby either gets it up and around him quicker or whatever the case is. The whole operation is fucking everything. And they need to figure it out. They'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I hope they'll figure it out. But Patrick Mahomes needed all that shit to beat that Packers team, which gets back to the Patrick Mahomes conversation of what the fuck is going on over there in Kansas City. Well, and also not just that. I mean, the Packers, you know, you muff one punt, you cause another one. The Chiefs get it in the red zone, hold them to a field goal there. Like, there was no reason that,
Starting point is 00:29:04 and I don't know what I really expected going into the game like i really did think the packers could potentially win but i mean the chiefs just they look terrible they really do and i do think it's just like you talked about it a couple weeks ago like mahomes energy just feels different like he kind of turned it on a little bit when he got that uh the the first yeah the conversion the first down to end the game pretty much. He gave a huge fist pump. But up until that, he's just bombing balls way over Tyreek Hill's head. He's high. How about him missing Tyreek?
Starting point is 00:29:32 A couple times. Numerous times. Several times. His energy just feels way different than it ever has. I wonder if Patrick Mahomes ever thinks, I wish Usain Bolt was out there. He's a little faster. Tyreek's a little too slow for him.
Starting point is 00:29:43 You think that as he's overthrown, never was able to overthrow Tyreek before. What's going little faster. Tyreek's a little too slow for him. You think that, like, as he's overthrown, never was able to overthrow Tyreek before. What's going on? Lose a step? Or is Patrick just closing his eyes and hucking right now and hoping that everything happens?
Starting point is 00:29:54 It seems like that's the case. Let's bring in the sidebar because there's a lot more that we need to chit-chat about. We're big time show. Whoa! Hey! Hey!
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Starting point is 00:30:04 Yeah! Dang! Huh? Pretty good. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. You see the motion graphics, dude? Yeah. Dang. Huh? Pretty good. All the people attacking my credibility of journalism. You got these motion graphics, bro? Do you? Let me know.
Starting point is 00:30:15 You got these motion graphics, dude? I was taking a little bit. Well, not as many as I thought there was going to be. There are some people, a rather significant amount of people that texted me that potentially are in either this life or others that are around this type of profession.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Sure. You did everything you could, bub. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Have a good one. I had some people tell me that I should potentially reach out to people
Starting point is 00:30:40 on how to navigate these waters, though. Probably told that person out. I'm the fucking skipper of the ship. If I need to navigate the waters, I'll figure it out. By the way, if a thing goes down, guess what? Fucking great ride. This thing has been a great ride. Hopefully they'll be
Starting point is 00:30:57 playing the music while it's going down. The violinist and the pianist will be doing their entire thing hopefully. Who could navigate these waters? who somebody tell me who who could navigate the waters of the real world in sports world with people that are talking about shit that's 7 000 miles over your head tell me who i would like to know who has bula you. You're right. Other than Hasbulla, who I think is probably a little bit busy. Yeah. He's training for a fight.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Dr. Florio. See? Doc. See? I was being serious, dude. See, Florio, though, hey, he has brought up a lot of, like, I feel like, does he think for the NFL, you think? I think he tries to.
Starting point is 00:31:40 No, he does. I mean, he paints a lot of pictures out there, though. Yeah. Well, and I think they would have to at least somewhat be on board with it because he's doing Football Night in America. Yeah, so I mean, like, maybe. Yeah. There's a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I mean, Aaron's getting it on the shins. Oh, yeah, everywhere. Big time. I got some people that texted me and told me I was a bad person for even letting Aaron on there because Aaron just committed career suicide. Oh, come on. I said, he can't play football anymore? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Is that right? He can't play football anymore? Well, that company did drop him, the health company. Yeah, I saw that. Partners for nine years. Hey. Good run. I don't know how Aaron, we'll ask him.
Starting point is 00:32:16 He'll be on tomorrow. We'll ask him. A lot of people tell me he's not coming on tomorrow, too. Whoa. Why is that? Well, because I allowed him to do what he did, which inevitably ended up with people tweeting him mean things. Huh.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Well, if they allowed him to do what he did in the first place, then maybe he wouldn't be in this situation. Ah, well, also, like the... I don't know. Terry Bradshaw's pissed. Terry. Terry Bradshaw is pissed. Terry Bradshaw, they say, hey, you know what?
Starting point is 00:32:42 Old Honest Terry. That's what they say. Old Honest Terry. That's what they say. Old Honest Terry. The original DB12. He's had an axe to grind for Rodgers for a while now, so I'm sure he was just licking his lips all weekend.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And people, like, hey, I enjoy all that. I view life as, which, by the way, adds to the case that if you expected me to be the one reciting stats about the real world, which by the way, adds to the case that if you expected me to be the one reciting stats about the real world, which I openly try to stay out of because I think it's just a much more
Starting point is 00:33:11 enjoyable life, but Terry at the Naval Academy, you know, cutting a promo about that. That was fucking awesome. Yeah, the home of the honor code. What a moment. What a moment. I laughed so hard. We'll ask Aaron about it. We'll ask Aaron about it.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I don't know if he'll have a direct response to the promo that Terry cut on him. Terry was, he's trending. Oh, yeah. For a while. All right, Terry. I want to say he is not giving away his own money, too. That's a load of shit. No.
Starting point is 00:33:39 That's obviously not Terry Bradshaw's money. No. He's lying. He's a fraud. And he needs to be off television and never in Navy Academy again. It's much different what he did versus what Aaron did. And there was another, like, the Martin Luther King quote about standing up against unjust rules or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And, boy, there was a lot of people not happy about that. Yeah, a lot of people didn't like that. And once again, we'll ask him tomorrow about it I think he was Referring to that being a quote That has potentially shaped the way he has handled A lot of things in his I think if you go through how he has potentially operated
Starting point is 00:34:16 Especially even in the way he's Navigated with medias And how he has been a little bit of a We'll have to ask him about it though Because that is quite a drastic measurement to take. But I'm assuming he was referencing how that has shaped his beliefs as opposed to this particular case here. But I could be – hey, I could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:34:35 We'll find out. I could be wrong. And I hope that that's not the case because, boy, that was a also trigger spot on the internet this weekend. It also makes sense why he wouldn't want to be the poster boy, like you said, after the entire offseason too. It's like, does he want to bring this to the table now after all that and be the guy that everyone's going to talk about being,
Starting point is 00:34:55 oh, that's the unvaccinated quarterback. He's hurting his team even more now. Do they even like him? You're standing up for a fucking liar, dude. Don't be doing that. You know what? That's my truth. I became a bigger fan of Rodgers on saturday i'll be honest on saturday oh yeah after the whole thing and kind
Starting point is 00:35:10 of processing everything what people are saying it was like yeah i mean he's basically said you should do what's best for you yeah the bodily autonomy thing did not make its way into a lot of conversations i don't know how i think it's potentially because you know the way things were clipped we're on We're on every channel. Oh, yeah. They're giving a lot of credit to SiriusXM over there on all those places. Yeah, it's interesting. That is interesting.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Same places that didn't ask for, you know. It's all right. Do what you got to do. We're lucky to be adding to the conversation. We are happy that at least some of Aaron's words were able to be heard in response to what was being said. If you don't agree with them, hey, that's cool. We're able to be heard in response to what's being said if you don't agree with them hey that's that's cool we're happy to be a part of it this show is not owned by Sirius XM though like let's make sure that is known very fucking yeah like what are we doing here
Starting point is 00:35:55 that's what I think I hate the most because I am Stooge okay it's more Stooge but I won't walk into rooms I mean I kind of did I guess well Aaron walked into our room I didn't walk into rooms. I mean, I kind of did, I guess. Well, Aaron walked into our room and did it all. Yeah, we were already in here. But I'm okay, like, not speaking about what I don't know. You know? Yeah. And this is a very interesting thing to say as somebody who does a daily show and the show's named after me and all that shit. Tried to change that, actually.
Starting point is 00:36:19 People don't. I actually tried to change that to the afternoon show. But then I was told that, no, actually, everybody, there's a lot of people that listen in the morning, that whole thing. I don't like need the attention. Okay. So I think a lot of people potentially dive into shit that they don't know about just because, hey, this is something that'll garner at least a little bit. I'm okay with the attention. Like, hey, if I have it, cool. I'm okay with it. But I don't need to speak on shit that I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And I think that was not, you know, really thought about much by a lot of the people that were potentially asking me why I wasn't a better journalist out there on Friday. It's like, I don't fucking know, dude. This guy just told me he had a 500-page fucking report. The guy I'm talking to right now had a 500-page report.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Did I do that? I didn't fucking do that. What do you want me to do? What if I start asking these questions and Aaron goes to page 160? That would be nowhere near the end of the report, by the way. Nuh-uh. 160 pages in is longer than three of the eight Aaron Rodgers booklets.
Starting point is 00:37:21 160 pages in is nowhere near the end of that report that he had presented. Imagine if I asked, and he goes, well, I'm page 60 here, Pat, actually. Clause 45. It says, blah, blah. Is that what people like? You have to listen to the entire conversation to really get it, I think. That was a fascinating situation. And it's the entire world kind of coming down on one thing.
Starting point is 00:37:43 It's insanity. And we'll see. I mean, I don't think it's going entire world kind of coming down on one thing it's insanity and we'll see i mean i don't think it's going to slow down anytime soon like i you know hopefully that if he comes back i mean especially if for whatever reason if he were to miss this next sunday game again then it's just it'll be right back at the at a boiling point this thing thing is... This thing... There's a shirtless man at the end of this book. Yeah, that's Ram Dass. I believe that's Ram Dass.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Really? Yeah, it also might be Ram Dass' teacher. I forget which one that is. Oh, jeez. There's no pages on that. This one is... The Giver. Is...
Starting point is 00:38:23 Two hundred and... I mean, take it easy. Jesus. 225 pages. Okay. Quick read. Double it. Yeah, two of these books is how, plus a couple more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:41 That's how big the report is. What, like, how come Joe Rogan, the consultant, was obviously a big conversation piece because Dr. Joe Rogan. Uh-huh, Joe's Joe. Soon as he mentioned his name. Yeah. It was like, oh, this is going to be, how come the 500-page report wasn't talked about?
Starting point is 00:39:02 And I did, I feel like, ask about what he was doing and what the methods were, and he said he didn't want to talk about it. I think he said feel like, ask about what he was doing and what the methods were, and he said he didn't want to talk about it. I think he said that because I'm not going to be the fucking expert on this thing, just like he didn't want to be the goddamn anti-vax guy. But now I'm an apologist for Aaron Rodgers. Maybe that should be his fucking book this week. Well, I actually did text him and ask that,
Starting point is 00:39:20 if the 500-page report could be the next installment. Publish it. What if it was like his manifest? Yeah. All right, let's get back to football. The Titans' resume is insane. Yeah, very good. Well, I wonder what all we're going to talk to Aaron about tomorrow, though.
Starting point is 00:39:36 You know what I mean? Should be interesting. Who's he watching? I have so many questions now. What shows are we doing right now, you know? No, shows. I'm not worried about the shows. I wonder, like, he has to hate everybody right now, right?
Starting point is 00:39:46 Yeah, I would imagine. So is he going to go on and, I mean, is this, are we about to see the absolute best Aaron Rodgers in the history of Aaron Rodgers? Because everybody knows, like, a spurned Aaron Rodgers is probably the best Aaron Rodgers in now the whole world. Not the whole world. There is a lot of, hey, Aaron's our guy, too, happening. Which, that's not being talked about, I don't there is a lot of hey aaron's our guy to happen which that that's not that's not being talked about i don't think a lot out there which hey you guys are gonna have to just observe and report how that whole thing goes not me you guys keep closer pull on how that
Starting point is 00:40:14 whole thing go but it feels like there's a lot of hate coming from a lot of people oh yeah he's gonna throw a fucking 405 i mean scorched earth ro Rogers is the best Rogers. So we'll see. We'll see. Yeah. Especially after how they looked yesterday with him not being there. I think he's going to have a lot of fuel. Hey, let's talk about a team that's potentially back. Oh, yeah. The New England Patriots do not stink.
Starting point is 00:40:37 No, they don't. And, I mean, Connor's obviously been beating the no bull drum for a long time. Long time. He's got no bull shoes on, which are Tom's with a little bit thicker bottom. With no bullshit. No bullshit. That's right. No bullshit, though.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Those are Tom's with the original waffle rubber that Phil Knight had for Nike. Right on the bottom of those. And they've been able to withstand a lot, by the way. Oh, yeah. Hey, no bullshit. Good shoes you got there. I've been moving. And they've been able to withstand a lot, by the way. Oh, yeah. Hey, no bullshit. Good shoes you got there. I've been moving faster. I've been jumping higher.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I've been doing everything better since I got these shoes. Have you been putting people in ankle locks like Kurt Angle? It depends. I mean, I wish if I had the opportunity to. You know, that rivalry goes back a long, long time. So who knows what the past beef is between old Brian Burns and Mac Jones. And what we're talking about is the fact that Conor has Mac Jones shoes on and a Bill Belichick shirt on.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Oh, yeah. He has a Patriots, obviously, bled-sitting thing in front of him, and he does love the Pets. Okay? Last year when Tom Brady was in the Super Bowl, he said, happy for Tom because of how much Tom brought to the Patriots. But Conor has been banging the drum for a long time. They had one down year, and then they spent $153 million in one day
Starting point is 00:41:52 in the tampering period, guaranteed money. And Connor, so you think Bill Belichick spends $153 million, drafts a quarterback in the first round, has a losing season, and doesn't bounce back. This is the drum you've been banging for a long time. Oh, yeah. Now, watching games with you, there are certain times in games where you think they're completely dead like you're the epitome of Yenzer guy.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Watching the Patriots. But you have to be sitting here at this point. After Gilmore, who got run out of the building. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Run out of the building in the New England Patriots. I mean, that whole story is going to have to come. It's overreaction Monday. Let's remember that.
Starting point is 00:42:28 We've got to treat it accordingly. He got kicked out. He has a pick in every single game for the Panthers last week. Covered pits this week. Got another one. I mean, he is a guy, but it feels like the Patriots are backing it with the Bills doing what the Bills did against the Jags. And the Dolphins get a win over the Texans, but to it in play it jets jets but it feels like the patriots are now right back
Starting point is 00:42:50 to being what they've always been in the afc east and to your credit you knew it all along yeah of course i did i mean this is bill belichick we're talking about and for a while the whole conversation was it was brady it was brady it was brady and we've talked about how it's incredible that two of the most competitive people of all time were able to last that long. Bill was going to do everything, put all his chips on the table like he has this offseason and this year. And now with the defense coming along, the run game that they have, they've rushed for like 120 yards in the last five plus weeks.
Starting point is 00:43:19 So it's really everything's there. And then who knows? You know, Odell Beckham, he's out there. Mac Jones is a pretty accurate quarterback. Maybe we add another piece and really take a shot at this thing because the afc is wide open aside from tennessee who knows what's going to happen in that whole entire conference the titans are obviously absurd and insane and the colts are heating up and what's going on with patrick but mac jones seems to be the perfect guy for New England, especially because I think he gets very pissed off during games. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:49 He seems like he can handle getting yelled at, coached hard, which is, by the way, the Tom Brady thing. Didn't have a great photo, the Tom Brady thing. He seems to be wildly accurate and has moxie and confidence in the locker room. Seems like you guys did pluck the perfect quarterback for the New England Patriots organization as it is right now. Although the NFL is changing completely, and you guys had that with Cam Newton last year with quarterback running.
Starting point is 00:44:16 It feels like Bill and Josh and probably Ernie, even though he's sitting at home, and old Crafty who called Bill the biggest asshole of his life. Of course. They understood, hey, what do we have success at? We need a quarterback that's mentally tough, physically tough, and can throw the ball well. They got Mac Jones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:33 What I bet you they didn't expect is they got a scumbag. Well, I don't know. They got a scumbag. I don't know if I do that part. The era of Tom Pelissero has an update on Mac Jones literally taking somebody's ankle and Ken Shamrocking it. The NFL will review Patriots quarterback Mac Jones grabbing Brian Burns' ankle Sunday as part of its normal process, I'm told.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Jones faces a possible fine, but nothing more than that. Okay, so that's much less of an update than I thought it would be. Yeah, I mean, I expect it. And plus, who cares? You know, I've seen the play. I saw what happened. I don't give a shit. That's Mac Jones, baby.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Who cares if he's twisting ankles? It doesn't matter. We're winning football games. That's the only thing that matters. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. And that's why I said, by the way, it seems like he's the perfect guy for New England. And I'd like to be known that aside from potentially breaking this guy's ankle, you know, I don't
Starting point is 00:45:23 think Mac Jones knew he was going to turn in the way that he did whenever he put his legs and wrapped them like a boa constrictor around his other leg and strapped his body to be contorted in a fashion in which his ankle's potentially going to break. I don't think Mac Jones put that all together in his head while it was happening. He thought he had the ball. I mean, he's trying to make a tackle. Give the guy a break. He got hit, strip ball. I mean, he's trying to make a tackle. Give the guy a break.
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Starting point is 00:48:04 And the man we're about to bring into this particular show is a man that we bring in normally whenever he's not hoity-toitying around. Right. High-browing. Sure. Yeah. Pinky-pointing. He joins us, and he is normally a man that is a rather solid prognosticator
Starting point is 00:48:25 for what's going to happen in the games. Oh, yeah? And I hate to break it to him because he definitely does not know this, but he and I tied exactly. And we lost a lot more than we won. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Yeah! Four and eight, both of us, dude. We stink. Four and eight, that's actually better than I thought. I thought there was a chance I was going to get shut out for a while. Hey, me too, because that's what my FanDuel account was this morning. You know, my FanDuel account was shut out this morning. It had $0.00 in it.
Starting point is 00:49:02 It was nice to take a trip back like weeks one through three. Yeah. You know, that's what Overreaction Monday was for the first couple weeks. Now we're right back at it. And I would like to say, because I'm an intelligent human, I'm not scared to cash out money that I put in. I'm not scared to take a little bit more so I can say, hey, I actually won this thing. Now, a lot of people feel like money on sportsbooks accounts
Starting point is 00:49:23 and chips on blackjack tables or in casinos are just playing. The game ends whenever you lose all the money. Do not be scared to take those chips right off of the roulette table, right off of the craps little setup thing, right off of the, and fucking walk. Who cares if you got three more hours
Starting point is 00:49:42 you're supposed to be there? You won. Don't be scared to take your money. I do the same thing with my FanDuel account. But in this particular case, I could not do that on Monday because there's zero dollars. We fucking stunk, AJ. And it's not our fault. Things happen that we could have never fathomed.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Now, it would have made sense if Jordan Love would have won yesterday with the Packers, It would have made sense if Jordan Love would have won yesterday with the Packers, with how the entire day went with the upsets and the blowouts and the no-shows and the who's that and how's this whole thing going. But your takeaway from yesterday's slate of games is what, AJ? What an insane day to remember that we don't know shit about fuck ever. I think this week showed it. I think my biggest takeaways from this week, this past football
Starting point is 00:50:27 week, probably were that Adrian Peterson turned down Dancing with the Stars and Josh Allen sacked Josh Allen. He texted me. That's all I really heard. I didn't really hear much else. Well, not just sacked, picked in, forced fumbled the Josh Allen. Awesome game for Josh Allen of the Jags.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Awesome game. Yeah, absolutely. What a moment. Yeah, Josh. I don't know if we have to act like someone just split the atom, and it's the craziest thing I've ever seen, but it's all right. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean, it's a score of Gahmi. Everybody on the planet.
Starting point is 00:50:58 What do you mean? I can't stick this to one person. I'm like, is something wrong with me? Why am I not losing my mind jumping off the roof in excitement because something like this happened? Yeah, and I didn't understand fully the excitement, but it's an anomaly. It never happens.
Starting point is 00:51:14 It never happens. Hey, Josh! Hey, Josh! That's cool. You're right. It's cool. Same pick in the draw. But with that being said, it is a big day because Urban Meyer, founder of the Urban Chop House, which was obviously subject of a lot of conversation over the last few weeks, he has won his first NFL game as a head coach in the United States of America
Starting point is 00:51:36 over Josh Allen from the Bills and the Bills. And a barn burner, 9-6. What a battle it was when we saw Urban's biggest smile, no question, as an NFL coach, right? Well, I've seen his biggest smile elsewhere. But say it. Say what you wanted to say about it being 9-6 and being a soccer score. Say it. No, I'm not going to say it was a cagey match.
Starting point is 00:51:58 It was! It was very cagey. It was weird. It kind of went. It set the tone for the whole weekend, I feel like. And I agree. And also the Cowboys and Broncos, which we will definitely talk about. But whenever you talk about the Bills only scoring six, what the fuck happened?
Starting point is 00:52:14 Like, how's that even happened? Like, is it a scheme thing? Is it an execution thing, do you think? Do you think Jacksonville just had their number? Or is it just a fluke day and that we should never remember or talk about? I mean, you can remember it and talk about it. I think the Bills should look at that and remember it down the road. Like, hey, we don't want to let this happen again,
Starting point is 00:52:33 whether they overlooked them, mailed it in a little bit. I know Dak made some comments about that coming off their big emotional win. There can be a little bit of a letdown the following week. That may have happened for the Cowboys. But for the Bills, I don't know. I would just chalk it up like hey man you know if you play people play golf and there's a 20 foot putt and it's a scramble and everybody tries to putt it and then you're cheating you're like hey we're gonna get a we're gonna get an eagle here we're gonna make this sucker so you you claim that you bought all the mulligans hey i bought two arm lengths we're
Starting point is 00:52:59 calling as many as we want and you put it 25 times with five different people and nobody makes it. A lot of times I'm like, oh, this putt's not meant to be, guys. Maybe for the Bills, they weren't meant to win that game. So it takes you 25 attempts to realize that this one's maybe not for us? Maybe not 25, but maybe 90. 20 mulligans, at least 21 mulligans you're probably cheating a charity out of? I'm not cheating. No, that's actually giving more money to the charity because I'm buying all these mulligans you're probably cheating a charity out of? I'm not cheating. No, that's actually giving more money to the charity because I'm buying
Starting point is 00:53:26 all these mulligans, but you can't... No, you claim you had them. Yeah, of course. I got both arm lengths, guys. You know, they tell you you buy two arm lengths worth of tickets, you get all these mulligans and stuff, and then I'll go give the money afterwards and say, hey, we still didn't make the putt, bud, and we putted it 27 times. Oh, so you do...
Starting point is 00:53:41 You say what you do in the dark will come to the light. We cheated for sure, but at least I can go just pay it off. Yeah, exactly. Knowing that, hey, whatever we put, we're going to give you probably double that in what it would cost to buy these mulligans. Man, what a guy. This guy pays double the cheat. What a hero. That's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Wow. That's a long way to say I don't think that game was meant to be. I can see that. And flush that sucker. Flush it. Don't worry about it, hopefully. And let's keep moving. Bury it like the Lions did.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Bury it like the Lions buried the film. By the way, the Lions did lose this weekend. During their bye week. First time bye has won this season. This would have been the week the Lions would have won. Of course, it's on their bye week. Yeah, it would have been. Stafford represented them yesterday pretty well.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Wow, yeah, Stafford did do some Lions-like stuff here for the Rams. So, shout-out to Detroit getting a chance to enjoy at least a little bit of their own brand of football on primetime television, which doesn't happen often. But the Bills lose. Okay, we'll rule that thing out. How about the Cowboys? 30-zip, five minutes left in the fourth quarter. Dak had only thrown for like 102 yards at that point.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Kellen Moore's offense has been very efficient no matter who's in there. How does this take place, you think, against a Denver Broncos team that I think by all accounts we all have said they stink? So what happened down in jerry world in dallas they're able to walk out of there with a blowout victory after shipping their best player out of town aj the nfl makes no sense at all dude it it really it doesn't make any sense i guess it just shows you like i mean how crazy the league is how how many great players there really are and some teams look like oh this team's terrible but guess what if it's a terrible team there's a
Starting point is 00:55:29 ton of really good players on that team not a ton but there's a good handful of really really really good players on their team and for whatever reason they can't put together whether it's hey we don't have a quarterback we don't have an o-line all that everybody's on scholarship that's kind of the old hey like you can get got any given Sunday. That's right. Just like a lot of teams got it yesterday. But there's always good football players in the NFL. That's the way it goes.
Starting point is 00:55:52 But you can run into a buzzsaw out of nowhere. I remember we were like rolling, humming, and then we played against somebody and they killed – it might have been the Jags. It might have been the Jags. They just out of nowhere killed us. It was like, what just happened? And then the coaches love it. You know, coaches absolutely love it because big Mike McCarthy right now is talking about you guys roll the ball out there get fucking embarrassed you know I mean we got
Starting point is 00:56:14 to put in all the like it gives coaches so much ammunition so much but as players I think you would probably understand this much more than I would because honestly when I went on the field the only interactions I really had was either a what's up hey what's going on hey your Twitter's awesome oh that's very nice of you your Twitter stinks alright fuck you like there wasn't any like real interaction on who's a good player you know like I wouldn't know if I could get got on every single play I could hit a miss every single punt so I'd have to show up but I'd assume when you play in the NFL you realize quickly like oh there's a lot of parody in this league and there is a chance you can get got on every single play. I could hit a miss every single punt, so I'd have to show up. But I'd assume when you play in the NFL, you realize quickly, like, oh, there's a lot of parity in this league. And there is a chance you can get got by anybody. And I think the Broncos did that to the Dallas Cowboys, who were being heralded as the best team in the NFL last week.
Starting point is 00:56:57 That comes back, they fucking get blown out. So, when do these power rankings normally come out, that people put out? Well, Dan Zeus will go out tomorrow. Yes. Tomorrow at 3 p.m. Dan Zeus will go out. And I think we actually got Dan Zeus' co-host coming on.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yeah, Matt Money Smith. Yeah. Holy shit. Well, Dan Zeus is the authority. Yeah. And then everybody else kind of sets theirs after him. What's his name again? Dan Zeus.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Come on, you know. His full name is just Dan Zeus? Yep. Dan, last name Z-U-S. Zeus. Come on, you know. His full name is just Dan Zeus? Yep. Dan, last name Z-U-S. Zeus. Okay. I'm just, I was curious. Like a tiger.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Zeus, Greek, Z-E-U-S. Like a tiger? What? Dan Zeus. Oh, yeah, we put it together. Yeah. His last name's not Zeus. His name is Dan Han Zeus,
Starting point is 00:57:44 but obviously Dan Zeus is what he is affectionately known as. All right. So this is what I'm talking about. I assume I've seen his name on a graphic, and then we are you. Short it down to Dan Zeus. And then we just roll with it. It's like the Mandela.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Yeah, the Mandela effect. In my head, his name was actually Dan Zeus. It's the Barbra Streisand effect. Make no mistake, it is a term of endearment. What the hell are you talking about? I don't think that applies here, but that's the thing, yeah. I don't know what you're talking about, but I do know Dan Zeus is coming on. No, Dan Zeus is not coming on.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Matt Money Smith is coming on. Matt Money Smith is coming on this week. His rankings come out earlier than everybody else's. Everybody else comes out on Wednesday. I will be intrigued to see how much these games where teams did not look like themselves at all will affect the rankings of Dan Zeus and the 81 people that do it at ESPN. Because what are your thoughts on the Chiefs? Chiefs continue to win, continue to win. But the conversation is Patrick Mahomes stinks this year. He don't have a clue. They don't know what they're doing. The defense, I guess, had a massive day,
Starting point is 00:58:46 but was that against Jordan Love or was that against a great Packers offense? Is that against a Matt LaFleur-led offense that has been very successful against everybody? How do you judge the Chiefs after that game? I don't think anybody knows. It's really tough because they did have a lot of zero blitzes. I know LaFleur talked about it afterwards.
Starting point is 00:59:02 He tried to put all the blame on himself. We need a better plan against these zero. And I think, was it Troy and Joe on the game? Yeah, and Terry. They did it. And Terry. Yeah, Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw.
Starting point is 00:59:14 TB12. And Terry McCauley was on NBC. He gave an entire thing. But Terry Bradshaw, I think, was with Joe. He was trending through that entire. Yeah. Oh, yeah, early on. He was.
Starting point is 00:59:23 But Troy did a good job of talking about it. He's like, do you think you would see this one-on-one coverage with Devontae Adams if Aaron Rodgers was out here? No, you wouldn't. That's a dream. No matter what the play is, if Aaron sees that, he's throwing it up to Devontae, no question. It's fascinating because Jordan Love, obviously,
Starting point is 00:59:40 has been compared to Aaron fucking Rodgers his entire NFL career like that is what he's being compared to it's not his fault he was just hanging out at home remember draft night he was on that very nice catch with his family he's just sitting there and all of a sudden the Packers trade up in the first round I thought they traded I was wrong on Twitter yesterday I thought they didn't have a first round pick I thought they had an early second and they traded up into the first round I was wrong completely but they trade up in a first round pick. I thought they had an early second and they traded up into the first round. I was wrong completely, but they trade up in the first round, just a couple months removed from giving up like 180 yards before contact in the NFC championship game, seeing what everybody else is doing, adding weapons everywhere. They trade
Starting point is 01:00:19 up in the first round to draft this guy who's sitting at home in a very nice house with his family about to experience his dream come true. and the immediate reaction is what the fuck is this guy getting drafted to this team for yeah so literally jordan loves first moments of his nfl life after he was drafted probably fun when he put the hat on he got interviewed i get to learn from aaron this is awesome his family's there and then he opened his phone or whatever, probably hit the bird, you know, the bird app. And all of a sudden it's, this guy can't hold Aaron Rodgers' fucking jockstrap.
Starting point is 01:00:53 What the fuck are we doing here? This is a project, but you're built to win right now. You're in a position to win right now. Why would you do this? Then video surface of Jordan Love not doing great in a accuracy net drill. Those things hit the internet and then the narrative gets even louder and louder. And then everything that happened with Aaron and Gutekunst and Murphy and the entire Green Bay Packers
Starting point is 01:01:17 organization, then it got louder. This dude has been compared to by all accounts, basically the greatest football thrower in the history of throwing footballs his entire career. So it is not fair. We need to let everybody know that it is not fair. But after watching Jordan yesterday, an experience will maybe make him a better player. So he probably is in a project and needs a couple years or whatever the case is, even though he sat behind Aaron for over a year and a half now at this point. And Patrick Mahomes sat behind Alex Smith for one year, played in the last game when the Chiefs were already in,
Starting point is 01:01:49 beat the Broncos in Denver. And in practice, everybody was like, hey, this guy's a fucking guy. Not that, once again, I'd be comparing Jordan Love to Patrick Mahomes, but I don't know what people are trying to compare him to with them making a reasonable pick and deciding to pick Jordan Love over anybody else. Once again, not fair to Jordan Love. But you watch Jordan Love and you go, okay, experience is going to make him better. Maybe he will be a guy. But this team's going to need Aaron Rodgers. And not just for this year.
Starting point is 01:02:18 It looks like it could potentially be a little bit, especially in Green Bay, Wisconsin, that isn't a free agent destination assuming without aaron rogers it was a i assume it was an eye-opening experience ty schmidt yeah for sure but it's i think it's something that we've kind of known all along like that's fine yeah he is a rookie that or not he was a that was his first start like you didn't expect him red shirt yeah red shirt you didn't necessarily expect him to light the world on fire but we've mentioned it like they're built to win right now, and there is a possibility that he becomes that guy and he's great,
Starting point is 01:02:49 but what if he becomes a starter next year, they lose some of these pieces, and then they stink for the next two years? What does that do for his confidence? And what happens if Jordan Love gets that win last night somehow with how the defense was able to stop Patrick Mahomes in that offense, even after special teams blunder, after special teams blunder, after special teams blunder, after special teams blunder.
Starting point is 01:03:09 With all the fuckery in the special teams. They absolutely should have won. They should have won the game. You could keep Jordan Love playing exactly like he did. If special teams were taking care of business, their defense played great, I feel like. They should have won. Yeah, and they had a chance to score and actually take the lead,
Starting point is 01:03:24 or they would have been able to take the lead through a pick, but that's in the red zone. There was moments there where, what if the Packers win? What's the conversation this morning? I wonder especially with what happened on Friday, with what happened on Friday, even with how it looked, the conversation
Starting point is 01:03:40 would be hysterical and that goes back to the conversation of, what the fuck is going on with the Chiefs? You know what I mean? This is not a knock on the Green Bay Packers' defense, which looked unbelievable. It is a knock on the special teams, the way they perform. Snapper needs a tight nut, by the way.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Yeah. Mason Crosby, they're trying to run his ass out of town. I think if you were to go back and watch the film, I'm not sure, but the people who do watch the film have decided to keep Mason Crosby through a lot because Mason Crosby's an unbelievable kicker, but that year where J.K. was a rookie, and he
Starting point is 01:04:14 was holding for him, I was going to talk about it in the Packers-Lions game week 17, because I got access to the film and watch it. The ball's spinning like every time he kicks it. Now granted, hey, make the fucking kick, dude. All right, you're getting paid, I guess. But he is not being set up in the same position as other people.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Normally when he misses, there's an operational issue. That's why he's so gray and still there. Okay, that is Mason Crosby who's a stud. But the operation obviously let him down. There's six more points on the board right there. Let alone the extra. I mean, there is a lot of stuff that could have went differently. And if the Packers win this game, what's the conversation today?
Starting point is 01:04:54 That's all I can ask. The Patrick Mahomes thing would be loud. Yeah, I think that would be the big takeaway. Because a lot of people were saying, like, statistically, love outplayed Mahomes. Like, when you just look at the statistics, and if you watch the game, I don't think that's necessarily true. But again –
Starting point is 01:05:08 This is not a direct screenshot from a bad phone on a TV, is it? No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Shut up. But I think if the Packers win, like that is what everyone's talking about today. It's like, hey, Mahomes stinks this year. What's that all about, AJ?
Starting point is 01:05:22 I have no idea. I don't get it. When I was watching live for – because everyone I feel like, I don't know, are people fans of Patrick Mahomes? I am. I want to see him do well. I want to see him get back to the magic he has. He turned heel, dude.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Because of his family. But the last play of the game, I was like, I'm grasping anything. That was legit Patrick Mahomes. Unbelievable play. He was super juiced. Went crazy. I was thinking, all right, let's roll that momentum right down the road. Let's keep it moving until next week.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Maybe you can take from that. You saw how excited he was. I was like, oh, man. Even his head, he's like, here we go. Now I'm back. Remember, Aaron said last week it would only take one play to potentially get you out or one play to potentially get you in a funk. Maybe that game-winning third third in it was like third 10 i think yeah whatever it was yeah maybe that was it maybe that run escape the pocket running
Starting point is 01:06:12 for his life through that beautiful ball boom game over now they're breaking down a lot of stuff on what decisions he's making and where he should be going and i wonder if it's a completion like they happen in the past none of decision-making conversation is in there anymore because Patrick Mahomes has been doing things that decision-makers don't want them to do. He's left-handed. I mean, you know what I mean? Like Patrick Mahomes has made a living off of not making the decision that a lot of people would make because of his talent.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Now that they're not hitting, the technique is getting broken down, the decision-making is getting broken down, but just like winning does to an organization, a couple completions change that entire narrative very quickly. Like, oh, he's back, he's back. Oh, he threw it into double coverage. Oh, yeah, but Tyreek Hill's there.
Starting point is 01:06:57 He got it. Travis Kelsey was able to do that. I think all these same potential conversations could have, now, I should have watched more film. So it's not an absolute, and that's why I always say potentially, because I don't want anybody to think that I'm acting as if,
Starting point is 01:07:12 yeah, this is a matter of fact, because I'm not 100% sure. I'm just hypothesizing the case that if you were to go back to Dorian Patrick Mahomes' great run, I would assume there is some potential film that you could bring out and go, this was a terrible decision, but it and go, this was a terrible decision
Starting point is 01:07:26 but it worked out. This was a terrible decision but it worked out. Oh, his technique is terrible. They've actually talked about him being able to stand and throw like this but it worked out. The only thing that matters is if plays are being made and as soon as that happens, all the other shit
Starting point is 01:07:41 kind of gets thrown away and hopefully he will become back to being the guy that we all love to watch, especially because he likes ketchup, which makes me like him even more. Pittsburgh, Heinz ketchup. If you eat any other ketchup, you're an absolute stooge. Hunt stinks. That's what he eats, though. Oh, yeah, because the owner, right?
Starting point is 01:08:00 Yeah, yeah. But he's also, to your point, he's missing guys even short. There was one third down where he hit kelsey like a little bit behind instead of right in the bucket where he was expecting it so it's like even some of the little things he's kind of screwing up that he hasn't before speaking of the little things jordan love on a davante across and troy i think troy said if he leads him here this is probably out and about it's like how about like aaron, right? Like that's where the difference is between the two guys.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And that's like, Dak Prescott's one of those guys too. What the fuck? Why? Hey, they stink, dude. They absolutely stink. But let's get to a team that doesn't. Cleveland Browns might be better with no OBJ. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Yeah. For whatever reason, okay, I'm not saying it's because OBJ is the problem with Jalome, okay? Uh-huh. I'm not saying that's the case. But for whatever reason, sometimes when you remove something's presence, everybody else can gel and do much better together,
Starting point is 01:09:04 for whatever reason. We saw it last year, and now I always said they were just learning Stefanski's offense, so by the end of the season, Baker probably had a much better grip of it. The rest of the team probably had a much better grip of it. They were able to do more. That's why they
Starting point is 01:09:19 went on to win, but everybody said, no, no, no. When OBJ was on the field, they weren't good. He gets hurt. All of a sudden, the Browns go to run. The offense looks much better than it's ever looked. They go win a playoff game in Pittsburgh against Pittsburgh. So I said, with how good that offense is, you bring a
Starting point is 01:09:36 dynamic player like OBJ in there, Stefanski will be able to take advantage of it. Here we go. This team's going to go on to greater heights. They were not able to do that for whatever reason. Whether it is in the camp of OBS that Baker didn't want to throw him the ball. Baker didn't want to have success.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Baker didn't want Odell Beckham Jr. to shine. Whatever. And I guess Baker came out and said like any conversation with Odell would be cool. A little apology. So maybe Odell Beckham was ghosting Baker and Baker didn't like him for whatever reason. They didn't have a connection. The team was better without him.
Starting point is 01:10:06 This weekend in the Battle of the River. Give me a beer. Is it again? Both these teams are from where? Battle of Ohio? That's right. There it is. Tell you what, Jim.
Starting point is 01:10:21 The Battle of Ohio, that team looked awesome. They looked inspired. Baker looked like he was having the time of his life. Cincinnati Bengals, that defense, they gave up four hunch to Mike White a couple weeks ago. They just gave up a bunch to Baker without OBJ, which I think, once again, they do do better somehow. But the Bengals might be dead, and the Browns might be alive. And is it because OBJ is not there anymore, AJ? Is that the reason why?
Starting point is 01:10:49 No. I mean, for whatever reason, they just would. Odell wasn't gelling with their offense. They didn't seem to have a good connection with Baker. I don't know if you heard Baker's postgame comments were great. He talked about how they're great friends. I haven't talked to him, but, yeah, I'm still a great personal friend of him. It was really good to hear him talk about it.
Starting point is 01:11:06 You could tell, like, all right, like, yeah, Baker's ready to move on. He's ready to move on and not talk about Odell anymore. Come on, Baker will. Everybody talks about Aaron being calculated with his words. Baker Mayfield very calculated as well. Do not get it twisted. What he's saying and the words that are coming out need to be listened to because they have been thought about he's incredibly clever obviously and this weekend
Starting point is 01:11:29 had to be a massive fuck you to everybody which i think was one of my wins by the way because i thought to myself baker is uh hey if he feels slighted or spike guy he goes out and plays his best football last week seemed like it was a lot of sliding well they won because won because of Nick Chubb and their defense, though, to be honest. Baker played well, a couple of nice deep balls, but they won because Nick Chubb's awesome and their defense played well. Always have had Nick Chubb, except for the games where he was injured, obviously, then De'Aaron Johnson came in there. But even when Nick Chubb's on the field, they can't find Odell for whatever reason.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Now, Nick Chubb, he's so powerful. He seems like he has great vision And if he's even He's leaving He's faster than everybody He is awesome to watch play football And Andrew Barry knew that I'm going to build up this offensive line
Starting point is 01:12:16 I'm going to get a tight end And who Who Austin Who Per Who can road grade But also is good
Starting point is 01:12:24 They know that everything goes through the backfield but it felt like Baker just was better when it wasn't happening and I think Odell will go somewhere and hopefully have great success and love it and be able to continue to build on his legacy and hopefully turn things around as opposed to what happened
Starting point is 01:12:40 in the Giants and the Browns but Baker Mayfield might be painting himself for a positive. How is he doing this with torn labor and broken humorous? Tough guy, son of a bitch. He's going to get rich off of this. Oh, yeah, big time. Have they asked Jarvis about the whole Odell situation?
Starting point is 01:12:56 Because him and Odell are very close. He tweeted something about Odell being a great teammate or something. Okay. I forget what it was. Give Baker a week. We'll see. Yeah, he is coming. He's coming to town next week, and he's got Bill to deal with,
Starting point is 01:13:09 so we'll see what happens. And he only had 14 completions. I don't know about that. They were efficient. They were efficient. Hey, they were efficient. They were efficient 14 completions. Pick six to start off the game.
Starting point is 01:13:20 No, but Dane was saying, you know, best quarterback in the league this morning. Who? Dane Orszawski was talking about Baker. He wasn't saying that. He didn't use those exact words. Hey, I don't even know. AJ, I don't even know if you know this. What did he
Starting point is 01:13:36 say? Did you hear what he said? No, I just saw a tweet. He said they should give Baker some credit because if he didn't play well, he'd be getting slaughtered today. Okay. Very true. That's a fair point, I feel like.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Yeah, and he's going to take a team-friendly deal and get paid and go laughing, and the Browns are going to continue to grow. That's what I think, personally. That'd be sweet. That'd be the move. How come there's still a thought that a team's going to claim Odell? They have, I guess, until tomorrow to do so because the Browns are officially releasing Odell Beckham Jr. today. How come they didn't add in the in-game
Starting point is 01:14:07 bonuses just to make it so big that you know, I don't understand how that Because I think they know if a team claims him, Odell's not going to go. Yeah, well that's what they've come out and said. There's going to be problems or something like that or it's going to be confusing. It's true though. If you're a bad team and you, do you want to claim him?
Starting point is 01:14:24 And be like, hey, we can turn them around. We know this year we suck, but maybe next year we can sell them that we're going to be really good. You tell me. Chophouse or MCDC? You can get – I don't know about MCDC. Sirianni.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Sirianni is getting flowers. He's getting his flowers. This guy's getting his flowers and he's getting upset about it. An entire bouquet was thrown on him in Philadelphia. That's what they do to celebrate. My daughter had a dance recital when she was like five, and you bring her flowers afterwards to say, here, great job. Isn't that what they wanted to do?
Starting point is 01:14:50 I give this man his flowers. Yes. Yeah. In Philadelphia, you say, here's your fucking roots and foundation. Poop in your flowers right here, pal. But yeah, Odell's going to be a free agent. Where's he going to go? Who knows?
Starting point is 01:15:02 Allegedly, Seattle is what Florio said last night on Football Night in America. He's interested. That'd be fascinating. I did see. I didn't click on it, but I saw a headline where it said, Odell Beckham Jr. wants to go to a playoff contender. And I was like, man, that is unbelievable, earth-shattering news. It's shocking that he wants to go to a good team.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Odell Beckham Jr. is looking to be a part of the offense and win a Super Bowl. So if you're one of those teams that isn't going to do that, we won't show up. So just think about that. It is interesting how this will all pan out because what team will go get a shot? But the Patriots, man.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Will he go to the Patriots? There has been reports of mutual interest. Well, and Matt Jones would be able to hit them, I assume. Oh, yeah. That offense. And Bill Belichick will be able to figure it out. But there has been people that have gone to New England and not worked. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:55 That is to say, everybody talks about all the people that have gone to New England and it has worked. There have been people that it hasn't. And I don't think it's because of personality. It's because of the way the offense is. Yeah. Wide receivers especially. More so than most players.
Starting point is 01:16:08 When they do go there, it hasn't worked out like you said. Let's talk about another team in the NFL where I think some questions have to be asked. Does Kyle Shanahan stink as a coach? No. I mean, I don't think he stinks, but there's definitely some real questions about him as a play caller and a head coach right now. It is getting loud on the Shanahan is not a good head coach circuit. What's going on? What's the issue?
Starting point is 01:16:35 Matt Nagy has a better winning percentage than fucking Shanahan. And Matt Nagy's on the hottest of hot seats yeah all the time and then nagy's agent is pushing that out all every single day to people i'd assume it's somebody related to the chicago bears head coach of matt nagy up there he might be the person that actually told everybody that the offense coordinator is only as good as the head coach of las nb which is fascinating bring that uh text back up though the tweet back up. Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan were both hired in 2017 to take over struggling NFC West teams. Here's how it's gone.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Rams, 68.5% win percentage, fourth best overall. Losing season, zero, three playoff berths, one Super Bowl loss. The 49ers with Shanahan, 44% winning percentage, 19th best, one winning season, one playoff berth, one Super Bowl loss. And there's a numerous a bunch of stats that have been coming out about the success of Lynch and Shanahan minus that one year where they wanted on an incredible run. And now I'd assume Shanahan and Lynch people would come out and say, we're playing with our fourth and fifth quarterbacks a lot of the time. We got kicked out of our stadium last year.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Our stadium actually, the city our stadium is in told us we can't play there because of the COVID protocols. We had to go live in a hotel. Speaking of COVID, we got COVID and we got injured on our team. So I think they would want to rule out that particular season or when they don't have Jimmy G. But the stats are alarming and it's going to get loud, especially when you lose to Colt McCoy
Starting point is 01:18:11 and James Conner, who ran wild all over you, brother. I mean, it's getting loud for Shanahan, I think. Yeah, I mean, I think he's fine. I don't know. Let's say they lose the rest of their games this season. Don't you think they still give Shanahan at least one more year? Oh.
Starting point is 01:18:27 They would have to, right? Because they allowed him. And Trey Lance. Like, don't they want to see him try to develop Trey Lance? Yeah. What about all these rumors coming out, though, that said that Shanahan really wanted Matt Jones the whole time? And how's that even happen?
Starting point is 01:18:40 Well, now he does because Matt's playing well. Now it's easy to say. Yeah. Hindsight's a beautiful thing for people, for anonymous sources, too. You know? How's it even happen well now he does because max playing well now it's easy to say yeah hindsight's a beautiful thing for people for anonymous sources too you know how's it even happen because they were both tied at the hip whenever they're at that press conference just a couple days before the draft and john lynch said i mean in my contract i guess i am the person that makes the decision but i would be an idiot if i did not consult with the offensive coordinator and the head coach and somebody of kyle shanahan's you know pedigree to talk about what quarterback is going to be a quarterback of our future.
Starting point is 01:19:10 So is that just all bullshit? And Shanahan also did say in that press conference, like, yeah, we saw the Mac Jones narrative and we decided, yeah, we'll let that run because we were not interested. So maybe Shanahan stinks. What happens if Lance isn't good when he does come and start? Then do you say, all right, Shanahan. Well, hey, is it a package deal, though? If Shanahan goes, do they fire Lynch as well? What is it?
Starting point is 01:19:34 They're 17 and what? 19 and 37, I think, without the Super Bowl year. In that Super Bowl year, their defense was unbelievable. Yeah, Bob Sala's gone. That defense is gone. Bosa's still there, I guess. There's still a couple pillar pieces. Yeah, Bob Sala's gone. That defense is gone. Bosa is still there, I guess. There's still a couple pillar pieces. Yeah, Fred Warner's still there.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Buckner's gone, though. Yeah, they traded Buckner out of town. And Buckner came out and said, I just wanted to stay here. They told me to get Scram. What is going on in San Fran? But let's talk about what's going on in Phoenix. Cliff Kingsbury without Kyler Murray.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Ice that on the sideline. Ice that on the sideline. Ice that on the sideline. Incredible. Incredible costume out of Kyler Murray for not playing. He's injured. You've got to go on to Colt McCoy. Man out of Texas, go on and hook him, Horns! Hook him.
Starting point is 01:20:19 He's been in the NFL forever. What are they going to do? Are they going to be able to adapt, especially without DeAndre Hopkins? Will they be able to win a game like they were able to do in the NFL forever, what are they going to do? Are they going to be able to adapt, especially without DeAndre Hopkins? Will they be able to win a game like they were able to do in the past without a head coach, offense coordinator, quarterback coach? Will they be able to go in and win with all the excuses already built in against a Niners team that got George Kittle
Starting point is 01:20:36 back and the team ready to... Will they be... This Cardinals team's for real. James Conner. He's a whole different player than he was in Pittsburgh, and maybe Pittsburgh wasn't using him right, but he is. All the glimpses of greatness that we saw in Pittsburgh out of James Conner seems to be happening
Starting point is 01:20:52 on a much more regular basis with the Arizona Cardinals. Is it because the way the offense is structured? Is it because the way it's going? Who knows? I don't know if anybody cares, but the Cardinals defense showed up. Cardinals offense without MVP candidate, two of them playing, they showed up. This Cardinals team seems to be for real.
Starting point is 01:21:10 I mean, they stole a game. You think, hey, we're out our stud quarterback and our stud number one receiver, and we're playing the Niners. Okay, well, this is going to be an uphill battle. We're just going to get through this thing. And they actually played very well, and they beat them. They didn't steal. They beat them.
Starting point is 01:21:24 And I think their defense plays physical. They're fun to watch. And going back, Titans, I just wanted to get through this thing and they actually played very well and they beat him like they didn't steal they beat him and i think their defense plays physical they're fun to watch and going back titans i just wanted to mention like their defense i don't know how they played all year but these guys can tackle if you watch that game you see like there's not a whole lot of yak they they tackle jeffrey simmons obviously the game of his life too great time to do it but man if their defense can even play like 80 percent of that level that it did last night like they're going to be in good shape in los angeles on prime time sunday night football great time to have didn't they just seem like they were so physical flying around i mean a lot of helmet like it felt like it was a lot of contact you know felt like there was a lot of
Starting point is 01:22:00 contact and it didn't seem like anybody was backing down is that something that's new is that something i think it's the the at least from what i've seen it's the best that they've looked this year so far defensively like overall but i was just more impressed with how they tackled so well at all three levels and how fast they are well so let's talk about that a little bit how come that doesn't end that like an effort thing how come that doesn't show up every single week you think yeah i mean tackling is a huge part of it is effort but it's also like confidence using your leverage, where your help is, all of that. And they just seem to have it going from early on
Starting point is 01:22:29 in the game, and they just seem to build confidence I think as the game went. Do you think Vrabel put the helmet on this week in practice and said this is what we need to do? Do you think he said we need to toughen up? It would not shock me. Yeah, Vrabel, he probably wouldn't even put a helmet on. He would just get in there and be headbutting dudes and throwing hands.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Hey, he's awesome, huh? Yeah, he's the man. They show him a lot on TV now. He got a lot of TV time last night. And he was looking in people's... It felt like he was trying to look in the eyes of his players after. Like, genuine concern, but also, like, what the fuck's going on here? Are we all right?
Starting point is 01:23:01 Yeah, okay, feels like we're good. Let's go somewhere else. He would pat him on the back, turn him around, and like, hey, look at me. Like, we need to look at you. All right. Felt like it was almost like a soul check real quick. Like, okay, are we confident? Are we okay?
Starting point is 01:23:12 And also, I do care. Tell me how you feel. I like what he has become as a head coach. And obviously, the results are speaking for themselves. Their resume is insane over there. And if they can continue to tackle, that's the easiest way to take a big jump, right, in the defensive game? Good tackling?
Starting point is 01:23:28 Good tackling. Solid tackling. Don't let them get any extra yards. Those little, like, okay, dude catches a ball for five yards, he gets four extra that he shouldn't because the guy's hanging on tackling. It's not like a solid tackle. Those guys, if he catches it five, you tackle him at five,
Starting point is 01:23:41 and you do that consistently throughout the night, which is what they did. Like, it's going to pay off, and I think it did last night. Yeah, because they're going to get complet five, and you do that consistently throughout the night, which is what they did, it's going to pay off. And I think it did last night. Yeah, because they're going to get completions, and you know that. But this one completion cannot turn into a fucking 50-yard, 30-yard, 40-yard.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Yak cannot be the thing that breaks our back. Ooh. Gotta be sound tacklers. Gotta be able to do that. Look at you. Look at at you yak cannot break our back is that what you said yeah yeah yeah is that the first time
Starting point is 01:24:08 you ever said that no no I heard it before I think numerous times obviously it makes sense I don't think I've ever heard it it makes sense though I think you might have just made that up
Starting point is 01:24:15 oh okay bars dude let's go congrats congrats hey all you sports media people you can use it by the way and shout out to the guy
Starting point is 01:24:21 that didn't ask tough enough follow up questions that you guys let slip past the goalie on the immunized questions. So go ahead and use it. Go ahead and do your thing. You know what I mean, AJ? Yeah, I know. You seem to be bothered by people thinking that you didn't ask the tough questions.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Well, these motherfuckers, it's their fault we're here to begin with. Who cares, man? You're right. I mean, come on. Now, we know. Okay. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:24:44 You are hurt. In the middle of what's going on And what's happening Aaron coming on Friday No matter how you handle it It's gonna be wrong So guess what Who cares
Starting point is 01:24:52 Yeah Yeah but I thought I could maybe Find the right answer in there You were great You did great Like just All you can do is be you And be authentic
Starting point is 01:24:59 And be real And everyone else Who cares Doesn't matter Thank you AJ Holy shit You're a holy shit people don't yeah there's always going to be issues that's how it should be everyone shouldn't be all on board and say oh this is awesome or this is all terrible there should be everything in between i agree
Starting point is 01:25:14 hey here here aj here here hey hey hey huh you know conversation about that stuff too i mean no matter what some people are going to have a problem you gotta hey a little protein shake from the meathead in the attic over there if somehow a massive bottle would have came in your shot yeah yeah what if that would have just taken over that would have been awesome we're not that good of a show you know i wish we would have been able to do that what are you gonna do speaking of our show zito put together an entire new switching system this uh weekend Speaking of our show, Zito put together an entire new switching system this weekend. Thank you, guys.
Starting point is 01:25:48 A lot of machines, a lot of plug-ins, all that shit. We appreciate you, Z. Thank you, man. Team effort. Yeah, I mean, there was people that helped you for sure, but this is straight out of the Zito brain. I actually had a chance to chat with him and catch up with him last night about what all he did. I feel like I learned a lot. Hell yeah. You know, the 10 input can also be this input.
Starting point is 01:26:06 These have to be stagnant. These can be motion. We could do this to this. We don't know why the IP address was set back to factory standard, which wasn't connecting to this one because of this. It's amazing what's in that brain of yours, you know. Honestly, it is amazing. And I don't know how all the roads connect.
Starting point is 01:26:24 I don't know how the roads connect, but I know we're live right now on YouTube.com forward slash the Pat Magphrey Show. I can't thank you enough. Thank you. You're right. I'm not actually that upset, by the way. But I do think I have a – it was actually kind of a freeing feeling this weekend. Because I realized that I was in a no-win situation like you said, and people
Starting point is 01:26:48 were going to potentially hate me either way. It didn't affect me as much as I thought. I had to take care of Valerie, my dog, this weekend with my beautiful wife Samantha. Valerie's coming out of surgery. She hates the cone. Her thing is in, her incision
Starting point is 01:27:04 is gnarly. It's a a big one it's on her back right leg uh so we could take the cone off her to chill but we have to watch her because she can't lick that whole thing so there's a lot of you know uh parenting this weekend with sam a lot of conversation with sam as randomly uh we'd get i'd get tweets or uh see my dumb ass face pop up on screen somewhere it's like oh my, why am I on that channel? Holy hell, there's no reason for that. And it's like, oh, well, it's talking about Aaron. And then a new wave would come in,
Starting point is 01:27:31 in the Twitter mentions, immediately after that appearing. And it was a pretty freeing feeling to be like, well, there was literally nothing I could do there. There was literally nothing I could do there. And I'm going to take that into a lot bigger thing. But anytime I have a point to potentially make
Starting point is 01:27:46 with these fucking grandstanding pieces of shit who act like they're the smartest humans on earth, I'm definitely going to take the opportunity to take the ball and cronk spike.
Starting point is 01:27:59 It. Hell yeah. You know, and that's why I got a chance to do today. Because the only reason we're here is because there was no follow-up question to the immunized statement that's right so for you coming after me about follow-up questions it's like who are you who are you and what book
Starting point is 01:28:16 did you read in what education school college did you go to to ask that question because i bet there was a lot of your peers sitting in the immunized room whenever that whole thing happened, and they must have missed that chapter. Is there any conversation there? You know, AJ? So that's why today has been the way it has been today, AJ. I mean, good. Good for you. I like it.
Starting point is 01:28:34 On Monday, you should be a little tested. No, I'm overreacting on Monday. Overreaction Monday. It's overreaction Monday. By the way, that spike went boom, off the wall, up here, off the desk, off of Santa, in the tie's hands right back to me and that's the full circle of this uh-huh yeah you know hey what i got quickly before you go to break what was romo trying to say what did he think the game was called
Starting point is 01:28:57 bro you've heard the old guy at the end of the bar. It's a babbling stooge. Listen, Corona Tone probably has his crowd. Oh, yeah. Yes. Right? I assume that there are people that love him, but it does appear as if, and this happens with me too, he's gotten to a point where he's very comfortable. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:29:19 And there is just no thought that, oh, people are watching this. You know, and that's what a lot of people strive for in this world, is to get to a point where you can be as comfortable on camera and with a microphone in your hand that you can just be your true self and just let it eat. And dance as if nobody's watching. That's what everybody's trying to do. Tony Romo has hit that point.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Oh, yeah. And he's covering games as if no one's listening. Yeah. And for that, I guess he should be commended. But there is shit pouring out of his mouth every week. You're like, Tony, what the fuck is wrong with you? Are you all right? There's a lot of that.
Starting point is 01:29:55 You know, there's a lot of energy. There's a lot of potential predicting going on. I feel like I did and have learned from Tony Romo. But every week he's on a game. There's a lot of, and it's not just us that think this, by the way. Normally, Corona Tone does well on the internet. Not as well as the name Rogan, but Corona Tone is definitely in there. People go, what is wrong?
Starting point is 01:30:15 What is wrong with this dude? Who knows? He's just being toned. Do you think Nance is getting sick of him? Oh, yeah. See, I didn't think so because I thought Nance this week much better than weeks past. Helping him out almost.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Because he realized he's got to carry it. He just needs to tell Tony to put the bottle down. I mean, Jesus Christ. We don't know if that's the case. Well. Bottles. Wow. There is.
Starting point is 01:30:35 And those Corona bottles are built well. Yeah. I don't know. It just. Previous Tony statements have directed us to this conclusion. It's not as if he hasn't done anything. Let's us to this conclusion. It's not as if he hasn't done anything. Let's get to a break.
Starting point is 01:30:48 What was he trying to say? It is impressive. You're right, though. You bring up a good point. It's like me sitting there on the couch asking my son, what is this game? Is everybody listening? Nobody's listening. Just throw random words out.
Starting point is 01:31:04 You know what I mean? Oh, no. Oh, no. All right, okay. He just, you know what I mean? And there's a couple moments where that happens on SmackDown. For instance, there will be full laughing moments by me in situations that I'm probably not supposed to laugh at. And I think to myself, oh, no. Like, I, you know, people are listening to me right now. And I have a couple of those.
Starting point is 01:31:23 I've got to get better. But he does have the carefreeness that nobody's listening, which I guess all broadcasters are trying to get to. And he's getting paid 17 M's a year. So good on him. Find your peach. That's what they say. And also put him in your ear.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Could you imagine him in your ear? No, thank you. Tostitos. No, thank you. I'm going to do it. I've got enough going on in here. I don't need Corona Tone in there Tostito Tone in there
Starting point is 01:31:47 Yeah Ladies and gentlemen Joins us every Overreaction Monday Host of the Man to Man podcast Blogger For Pro Football Focus Formerly
Starting point is 01:31:55 Nine year NFL vet At Safety Corner Nickel Linebacker You name it Ladies and gentlemen Darius Butler
Starting point is 01:32:02 What's up fellas That's a beautiful day Linebacker, you name it, ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Yeah, Darius! Ooh. Ooh. What's up, fellas? Oh, you're... It's a beautiful day wherever you are. What do you got going on? It is gorgeous up here, man. I'm actually up in upstate New York, Syracuse. My best friend, Tyvon Branch,
Starting point is 01:32:19 is going into the Syracuse Sports Hall of Fame. Glad to come up here and support. Attaboy, Tiger! Way to go, Mr. Branch. Syracuse, they got a lot of people in the Athletic Hall of Fame up there, huh? No, they don't, by the way. They do. Is Freedia in there?
Starting point is 01:32:36 They do, they do. Freedia is not. No, this is like the city. He's from Syracuse. He went to high school. So I'm sure Brianna Stewart will be here. Greg Paulson, Will Allen, Dorsey Levins, he's from Syracuse. He went to high school. So, I'm sure Brianna Stewart will be here. You know, Greg Paulson, Will Allen, Dorsey Levens, I think is from up here. They got some guys.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Paul Pascalone is going in as well this year. They got some people up here. Okay. Well, congrats to everybody that has gone into the Hall of Fame in Syracuse. Let's talk a little bit about the day that was yesterday. Darius upsets everywhere. Some teams didn't show up. How do we judge this going forward? Are the Cowboys dead? Did they completely stink? How about the Bills? What's going on with the Bills? And then all of a sudden the Rams look like that
Starting point is 01:33:17 or are the Titans the greatest team? What is your big takeaway you think? I mean, my big takeaway is everybody's got a chance, especially on the AFC. AFC's wide open. I would say the Titans, if anybody, you know, kind of separate themselves at all, it was the Titans yesterday, them showing up. Nobody really gave them a chance, especially after losing Derrick Henry. So how does it look long-term for them? But right now, the Titans look like they separated themselves in the AFC. And I think in the NFC, the Bucs had the week off. But right now, that would still be my team to beat in the NFC, the Bucs, with Brady on his MVP face.
Starting point is 01:33:53 So it's wide open right now in the NFL. The damn Chiefs can get hot and go on the road. Who knows? They're winning games. They're winning ugly games. Everybody's saying they're broken, they're dead. But, you know, they're still winning. They're still finding ways to win in this league, and that's tough to do.
Starting point is 01:34:06 It's too early to count those guys out, too. D, but are any of the teams that we thought were going to win this past weekend that lost, like Bills, Rams, teams like that, are any of those teams, are you truly worried Cowboys to where, like, oh, these teams, they're not very good, and they're going to struggle the rest of the year?
Starting point is 01:34:22 Jesus. Nah, man because it the titan the titans beat the titans lost to the jets the bangles when it got smacked by the bangles were the best team in the afc two three weeks ago they just got smacked back to back week so it's like honestly nothing's true like you don't know what it is right now week nine was absolutely nuts and week 10 i think i don't think it'll get any better. We should have known coming into Sunday with everything that happened Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday throughout the week
Starting point is 01:34:49 that it was going to be crazy. But right now, honestly, I'm more confused than ever. At what point do you think we learn about a team and what point do you think the players know what type of team they are? I had an opportunity to be on a completely undefeated team until they chose to lose and then I was also on a team that was completely defeated for about 12, 13 weeks.
Starting point is 01:35:09 And I think it was pretty apparent at one point in the season. I don't remember when, but do you have a feel for when you think some teams are going to recognize what they are, who they are? I think a lot of teams really separate themselves around Thanksgiving. That was one thing that Belichick would always say in New England when the season really starts. And that's really that home stretch. So right now, that's the message in every room around,
Starting point is 01:35:33 every facility around the league probably is like, hey, look at what happened to that team. Look at what happened. Everybody's still in this. We can get hot. We can start stacking some wins. And, you know, because who's got, you know, first round locked up? Who's got the bye locked up?
Starting point is 01:35:47 Nobody knows at this point. So, everybody still has got a shot, man. So, it's good for teams even that are kind of hovering around that 500 spot. Even a team like the Colts. The Colts should get hot. Hey, Jonathan Taylor is a player, dude. He is a player. He's big.
Starting point is 01:36:04 He's fast. He seems to be intelligent. He is a player. He's big. He's fast. He seems to be intelligent, loves working hard. And Carson Wentz, he is 7-foot-tall, 400 pounds in pads. He looks – I went to that game on Thursday. He looks massive. It is – that team could get going, but they dug themselves quite a hole to start this whole thing. We all would hope when T.Y. gets back, maybe the Colts go.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Dee, but I like where your head's at. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Dee, but what the hell happened to the Cowboys? Because last week they were going to win the Super Bowl, and now this week they lose to the Broncos, who didn't even have Vaughn Miller anymore. What a question. I mean, they got dominated.
Starting point is 01:36:38 I was, you know, watching the tickets. I was watching a bunch of the games, and I didn't – like, every time I looked at that box, like, the Broncos had had the ball i never saw that with the ball never saw a drive getting like so i have to go back and actually watch that tape and from the outside looking in they just completely got dominated um and who the hell would have expected that from the broncos like this is i mean this season and this sunday made absolutely zero. Like, I still can't make sense of it. It's almost like we get a chance to experience the NFL kickoff to a season again. You know?
Starting point is 01:37:11 Here we are nine weeks in. A whole new season's about to begin. You know, the Giants just beat Visagia. Nobody could have guessed that. The Broncos, maybe they're not dead. Maybe Teddy Two Gloves, MVP candidate, rattles off the rest of the season. Broncos get rid of Vaughn Miller. They start winning.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Hey, let's go. I'm AB. I'm Denver. That'd be nice for you. Go ahead, Todd. D-Bot, you've been one of the loudest. I came out, got a win. Hey, Shanahan might stink.
Starting point is 01:37:39 Shanahan might stink. People are saying it. Shanahan might stink. He'll be good because his last name is shanahan he signed a six-year deal but if that was anybody else he'd be on the hot seat it's not looking good deba you've been one of the loudest soldiers in the sam darnold stinks army and uh week after week he just continues to fucking stink even more when do you think the uh panthers are gonna just be like all right this this guy ain't the guy we can't keep trotting him out there i mean they already pulled him once i didn't think
Starting point is 01:38:11 they they would have even went back to him but he's just digging his his hole uh even more um i mean is he even i don't think he's a starting i thought at some point he could be a a good starting quarterback but i don't even think he's a starting quarterback. He just makes too many bonehead mistakes, too many just drive killers. He has talent, but everybody has talent, Lee. I didn't want to be right, but he absolutely stinks. You lost one battle. They made you apologize one time,
Starting point is 01:38:40 but in the overall war of Darnold stinks, you were a general for a long time. And I think now you have won that particular war, at least in everybody's eyes, whenever you watch Darnold play. Christian McCaffrey was even on the field there a little bit. So that's obviously alarming. Let's talk about something real quick before we let you go. And we can't thank you enough for joining us, D-Bud, on Travel. Thank you, D-Bud. Real quick, I got to ask Todd, what do you think about Jordan Love and Matt LaFleur without A-Rod?
Starting point is 01:39:07 I thought he stunk yesterday. Pretty bad. They should have won that game very easily. Yeah, well, so the absence of Aaron, Packers look much different. Obviously, Chiefs still question they get a win. Absence of Odell Beckham Jr. for the Browns seems like they have more success than whenever he's there. Why is that? Obviously, he's a great player, but why does it seem like the Browns seems like they have more success than whenever he's there. Why is that?
Starting point is 01:39:25 Obviously, he's a great player, but why does it seem like the Browns are better without him? What do you think it is from top to bottom there? I mean, I honestly don't know because it would be one thing if I felt like when Odell was in the lineup, Baker was trying to force him the ball or get him 10 to 12 targets a game, but when he was in there, he wasn't even looking his way. And when he did throw it to him, they weren't on the same page. So I don't know. But they came out and they responded as a team. Baker, you know, he looked good.
Starting point is 01:39:53 The team looked good. I think he was the highest grade quarterback of the week. So hopefully they kind of pick up that whole division. I mean, that AFC North, AFC West. I mean, everything's up in the air right now. But I don't know what it is right there. But I think I want to see Odell land. I would really want to see him out there in Las Vegas or in Baltimore.
Starting point is 01:40:11 I still think he has a lot in the tank. I still think he's a wide receiver one. And, you know, he's too young to just kind of, you know, fall off like we've seen him fall off these last couple years. I agree. I saw Lamar Jackson say, what do you want me to do? Basically what Lamar said, like, hey, what do you want me to do? This is not my world.
Starting point is 01:40:28 But Odell going to a place and having an immediate impact would be the nightmare of the Browns who were trying to figure out financially how to get rid of him. But I think their team got better by subtraction. Oh, yeah. Addition by subtraction. Boom. There it is. And I think Odell will get better as well. Sounds like a win-win. Much like, I think, the celebration you're about to head to right now. We can't thank
Starting point is 01:40:50 you enough for joining us, Darius. Appreciate you, fellas. You look good up there. Hey, sunshine. You look like you're in some good shape. Hey, man. It is nice out of fall. It's freaking autumn. I don't get this in Florida. Ooh. Wow. Look at you out on that patio, too, down there.
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Starting point is 01:42:48 a cover band, some people scream, Hey, play for Hebert! Hey, Hebert! I have experienced that in other places amongst drunks. My particular drunk group of friends, whenever any situation would pop up or call for it, we would literally scream, Play some Hootie!
Starting point is 01:43:04 Hootie was the lifeline of my group of friends and I in high school. And when Darius decided to step out on his own, we were all very worried that something great was potentially ending. But what we didn't realize is another elite career was coming. As Darius Rucker, as a solo artist, ladies and gentlemen, the Dolphins make this man cry. The only BS he needs is beers and sunshine. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Rucker.
Starting point is 01:43:33 What's going on? How you guys doing? This is exactly how I hoped this would be. You're on a golf cart right now living your absolute best life. Is that accurate? That's accurate. I am on a golf course living my best life. While you sing about that a lot. We appreciate your dedication to
Starting point is 01:43:49 our entertainment. The tech guys were having me man. No, well, I get a good spot for the light. There you go. The lights always bright when you're Darius Rucker. Are you just? Yeah, so you just live in Charleston still in the have you anything? Go between Charleston and Nashville. Okay. Has anything in your life changed, or is this like whenever you guys were finding Hootie,
Starting point is 01:44:13 the life you dreamt of living whenever you started, you're just living that now? And just how long did it take to kind of get to that point? Oh, I never dreamt I could live this life. This is a – you know, I play a lot of golf. I play a lot of shows. I mean, I can't think of anything else I'd rather this life. This is, you know, I play a lot of golf. I play a lot of shows. I mean, I can't think of anything else I'd rather be doing. Well, I think as soon as that first Hootie album came out, I mean, everybody knew.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Whenever you decide to go alone, was that a decision that was very difficult to make, I assume? How did everybody else handle it? And were you a little bit nervous at all, or did you know that you'd fucking just kill it? It doesn't matter. No, I was was nervous but uh actually wasn't my idea you know we were on tour like we always were every summer and one of the guys came back and said called a band meeting said he didn't want to be a touring band anymore so uh i always wanted to make country music so i
Starting point is 01:45:00 decided i guess i might as well go to nashville what was your What was your first couple months like when you were a solo act and you go out there on your own? It had to be kind of intimidating. Oh, it was. It was funny because Hootie we toured and then we quit, and six months later I played a couple buildings that we had just headlined, but I was the first band on a three-band bill. It was me, Brad Paisley and dirks Bentley
Starting point is 01:45:25 And so it was uh, it was weird to be back, you know going on at 530 You know playing 30 minutes, but uh, it was you know I wanted to do from the bottom up and it worked and it was fun You think wagon wheel was the thing that got you you think that was the the launch and how does that process work of like? Reinventing a song in your own way uh you know i'd had a i'd had probably i guess five number ones before and uh then wagon wheel came along definitely changed the game that that that you know the numbers on that record are crazy and uh but you know you want that everybody wants that song that
Starting point is 01:46:02 lasts forever and when you do somebody else's, you never know what's going to happen. But I'm glad it did happen. How does that go? You just have to reach out to Dylan? Oh, you just cut it. You cut it. You really don't have to ask anybody to cut their songs. You just got to do it and then, you know, put it out.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Crush. But I'll tell you one thing. They got paid a lot more money than I did. We're talking to Darius Rucker, obviously, superstar. The CMAs are this weekend. I don't know enough about it. I assume you're going to win every one of those. But a cool thing for us to chat about is you're going to be doing an intimate theater tour.
Starting point is 01:46:39 Why did you make that decision, and how are you going to go about doing it? We talked about doing something in the winter, and I to play these these are places most of the places that we're playing i never got to play because hootie went straight from the clubs to the arenas and uh you know with the country like i said i went straight into the arenas with as a baby man so i never got to play any of those iconic theaters around the country and so uh we decided to just go out you know play two nights in a bunch of places and just have fun. And I know you're a big, you know, sports fan, college football, of course. What about the NFL right now? Where are you? Are you a Dolphins fan? You think they're gonna win the
Starting point is 01:47:15 Super Bowl anytime soon? I know they're not gonna win it this year. You know, I thought we were going in the right direction. I still think we're going in the right direction. This year is a step back from last year when, you know, we're one game away from making the playoffs. So it's kind of disappointing what's going on. But, you know, I'm diehard when it comes to the Dolphins. And so I hope we win the Super Bowl before I die just one more time. The Dolphins make me cry is a line that I think has rang very true amongst all
Starting point is 01:47:46 dolphins fans around the globe. We have a guy from North left Canada. Okay. And he's from North left Canada and he's a diehard Miami dolphins fan. And that line basically sums up his entire existence as an NFL fan. So I think he wanted to take a moment to say thank you for really vocalizing his life. Yeah, thank you for that, Darius.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I get to tweet out that video from Hootie and the Blowfish every time the Dolphins stink and lose every Sunday. So you get to do that a lot. Well, I'll just beat the Texans. I mean, let's go ahead and rally around Jacoby Brissett. Absolutely. We'll take victory. You've got to take those wins as much as you can.
Starting point is 01:48:31 Whenever you write a song, what is the process like? Are you on a golf course? Are you sober? Are you with friends? How much do you do all that? I can be with friends or by yourself. I'm usually sober, but sometimes not. You know, It varies.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Different songs come different ways. Which one was the easiest song to make? Let Her Cry was the easiest song I've ever written. It's a fucking heater, too. Why? How'd that come out? It came out of nowhere. Let her tears fall down like
Starting point is 01:49:02 rain. Let her roll. You need backup? Yeah, way in the back. Way in the back. For these theater shows, you say you just want to have a good time. How will you shape your set? Do you ever play any hootie songs or are you completely past that?
Starting point is 01:49:20 I think if I didn't play Hold My Hand and Let Her Cry and Only Want To Be With You, I'd be ripping people off. You know, I play those songs every night. I love those songs. I'm proud of those songs. Those songs made me, you know, who I am today. So, yeah, I play them all the time.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Now, I watch, what's that show? Songland. Yeah. I watch Songland. You enjoy that show? I do like that show. Me too. Hey, you and me.
Starting point is 01:49:44 Hey, no big deal were you born naked huh were you born naked yes i was born with no clothes on me too man fucking me and derrick rucker might be the same people this is absolutely crazy but watching those songs kind of come together behind the scenes is always fascinating and then a couple of the artists chatted about how they don't want to play songs anymore that they used to play maybe 10 years ago because when they're performing them, they don't think they can tap into the emotions
Starting point is 01:50:10 of the performance or whatever. Do you ever have any of that? Is there any songs that you don't play or songs that you enjoy playing? I don't have that at all. I love playing my songs every night. I love playing those songs from 27 years ago because when you hit that song
Starting point is 01:50:24 and you hear the audience reaction, man, that's worth every minute of playing it. So I'm not that guy. I love playing all those old songs. That's awesome. Darius, do you ever have any, like, huge mishaps on stage? Like, do you ever fall off stage or break your leg and Dave growl like he's singing in a chair?
Starting point is 01:50:38 Anything like that happen? I have. I jumped off a 12-foot stage once because this girl was really hot and I had to go dance with her. And everybody heard my ACLl snapping too really oh yeah and you finished the show oh i finished the show finished the tour that was the first show did you get to dance with her on the tour in acl yes of course i didn't go down man oh man uh what a legend. Now, obviously, live shows are in huge scrutiny because of what happened
Starting point is 01:51:08 with Travis Scott and Astroworld. How much of thinking for the audience do you have to do while performing? Do you have to keep an eye on things? Because you have a different view than everybody else. Is there any of that or any thought of that or are you just trying to do your job, do your thing? In that situation,
Starting point is 01:51:24 yeah. I mean, in the situation where people people start going down you have to take control because you're the only one who really can you know uh you know we've had it happen and you know fights or or people fading in our in our shoes we just stop i mean we're gonna stop i'm gonna stop and handle that because you don't want anybody to get hurt you know yeah and you have the microphone and you also have the best view on it, so you would assume there is a lot of scrutiny right now about that. Go ahead, Ty. Darius, I believe I saw in 2016 you became
Starting point is 01:51:52 a partner in a sports agency. Is that something that you're still actively involved in, or did you start that and then kind of realize, like, oh, shit, this is a lot more work than I anticipated? Oh, no. Very much so involved in Trevor Lawrence is one of our clients. Hey, congrats.
Starting point is 01:52:06 Hey, congrats. So I'm very much involved with it. It's something that I love doing. I love being a part of it. You know, it's pretty cool. It's one of those cool things I get to do. So what do you do? You golf?
Starting point is 01:52:18 You sing? You perform? You write songs in your sports agent? I mean, is this the coolest life of all time? I hang out with my kids a lot, too. Dad of the year. Every time I hear you sing about South Carolina, I just think to myself,
Starting point is 01:52:32 that must be the most beautiful place on earth. Are you there forever after the Nashville run ends? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm never leaving Charleston. That's where I'm supposed to die. I'll be there forever. Classic. Go ahead, Connor.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Yeah, Darius, we saw Tim McGraw a couple weeks ago kind of have a situation when he had a concert and people were booing him, and I assume that's never happened to you. But have you ever had to stop a concert for any reason or no? No. I mean, like fights and stuff like that, but nothing like that. No, I mean, I don't know. Our fans are pretty
Starting point is 01:53:06 tame, I think. They have a good time. You ever forget the lyrics? Oh, God, yeah, all the time. That's why I got a teleprompter now. So now if you can do it, I can do it. How long have you been using the teleprompter? I know you're not the only one, that's for sure. About two years now, man.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Not that I forget very often, but I've been in the middle of let her cry looking to the band going what's how does it start it's it's you know it happens it happens how many shows are you doing on this uh intimate theater tour and do you ever get tired or you just been on tour for so long uh you get tired but not show you know not at showtime Showtime is always fun. But I'm doing, I think, 12 or 14. It's going to be real short. How much of Bradley Cooper's depiction of being a touring rock star is accurate? Well, back in about 1994, it was pretty accurate. Go ahead, Tom.
Starting point is 01:53:58 Darius, I was just in Nashville this weekend. When are you going to build a Darius Rucker four-story honky-tonk down on Broadway? Oh, the hootie level? I guess some crazy guy with a lot of money. As soon as that happens, I'm in. How's your golf game? It's pretty good. I'm on nine and I'm three over right now.
Starting point is 01:54:17 It's okay. Golfing in a t-shirt, you're Darius fucking Rucker, huh? Tuberdor, baby. Tuberdor. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, I like that. Do you have a deal going on with the NFL and Fanatics right now? Yeah, man, it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:54:29 I got a clothing line coming out, all 32 teams, a whole bunch of great – I mean, the clothes are amazing. I mean, it's been sad because we were supposed to get it out at the beginning of the season, but with the supply chain and everything, we haven't been able to get anything in. So we're launching it here in the weekend. I mean, I'm just excited for everybody to see in. So we're launching it here in the weekend. I mean, I was excited for everybody to see it as a whole bunch of great clothes. And every time I see my logo right under the NFL logo,
Starting point is 01:54:50 I feel pretty proud. Hey, use your letter. Um, we can't thank you enough for joining us. Is Hootie going to do another run together like you guys did in 2019 or the COVID? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:55:03 I guarantee you we will. We just want to do it one of the times, right? For us now, we know going out every year is not our thing, but if we go out every four or five years, we can sell out. It'll be a good time. Alright, well good luck on the rest of this round. Thanks for catching up with us and I think you're coming to Indianapolis. I assume we'll watch the show
Starting point is 01:55:18 so good luck on that. Looking forward to seeing you all there. Y'all take care. Hey, you too, man. Darius Rucker. Yeah! Thank you for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes the fact you allow us in your day-to-day i can't thank you enough for i will be eternally grateful for it real talk that's a shoot brother we're back tomorrow with another aaron rogers tuesday be a friend tell a friend i assume it'll be large i can't wait to hear what is said what happens i hope you're excited as well be a friend tell a friend if not just act like it never happened ty please
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