The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 538 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 10 Recap With Darius Butler & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 15, 2021

On today's show, Pat, AJ, Darius Butler, and the boys overreact to everything that happened during week 10 of the NFL season and discuss everything from Aaron Rodgers and the Packers defense dominating Russell Wilson and the Seahawks at Lambeau, Cam Newton's big return to Carolina after the Panthers beat the hell out of the Cardinals, the Patriots being all the way back, the Colts continuing to put things together, the Titans increasing their hold on the AFC, the Steelers and the Lions playing to a tie in what was maybe one of the worst games of all-time, the Chiefs finding their swagger and potentially putting a dagger in the Chiefs' season, what the biggest takeaways are, who is looking like a real contender, and everything else that happened in an eventful week 10 ahead of tonight's Monday Night Football game between the Rams and 49ers. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello! It is Overreaction Monday, November 15th. Big show, big show! A lot to overreact to, some more COVID news. Wow, what a day. Darius Butler joins us, AJ Hawk. All the boys are on fire and we can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes on this gorgeous Monday afternoon, evening, or Tuesday morning, whatever it is. If you enjoy the show by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never, ever happened. Here we go. It is another gorgeous edition of Overreaction Monday.

Today's date, November 15th. Let's go. Yeah! This is one of the most glorious days of all the days because when Monday comes in the NFL season, we all know that we can overreact and look like absolute idiots while saying things that aren't necessarily going to be the same thoughts on Wednesday or Thursday of this same exact week. Today is a day where you get to watch an entire NFL slate on Sunday. And on this day, you get to say ridiculous things about a team. For instance, is Matt Jones a Hall of Famer? Hell yeah! Is Matt Jones going to end up winning seven Super Bowls for the New England Patriots?

Super Bowls for the New England Patriots? Is Mac Jones the guy of guys in this particular draft class? And we all knew he was going to be a guy because we were all told he was going to be a guy immediately upon the Niners trading all the way up to number three.

The future of the franchise. Send it out the window. We're going up to number three to get a quarterback because Trevor Lawrence, obviously, number one. Zach Wilson, who we didn't know existed, obviously, number two. Hey, those two are locked in. Don't even think about it. We actually won't even talk about it.

We'll actually only talk about number three overall, which the Niners just traded up for, even though they have Jimmy Garoppolo on a $25 million salary. We're only going to talk about number three because first two already figured out. Number three, it's going to be Mac Jones. Mac Jones. Ho. Mac Jones. Ho.

And they showed all his highlights. Hey, they were even having him do extra pro days to showcase that he can move a little bit. Then there's leadership stories coming out. And there's other wide receivers that played alongside he and Tua openly saying without being provoked, kind of getting fucked over that the private conversations were being made public but saying Matt Jones

much better than Tua. Matt Jones comes in breaks all the records that we didn't think would be broken by Joey Burrow whenever he was at LSU. He's a finalist for the Heisman. Seems to be beloved by everybody. He's going number three overall. The future of the Niners, which is a team built

to win the Super Bowl right now. They just so happened to stink last year because they got COVID, kicked out of their stadium, and Jimmy G got hurt. Then all of a sudden, draft day comes and we get a phone call. Our show actually gets a phone call. We might have known before anybody else.

And we only knew for four minutes because as soon as we got the call, intro is already on for youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. As soon as the show opens and it's draft spectacular day, which is our biggest day in our office, it might as well be a company holiday. As soon as it leads off, hey, here in number three, ain't Mac Jones. Whoa.

Boom. The draft odds, the betting odds for Mac Jones to go number three overall to the ninth instantly started falling and things started changing. Trey Lance went in there, all hell broke loose, and Mac Jones just free fell through the draft, wearing that suit, winking at the camera, doing his thing. This guy stinks.

This team doesn't need a quarterback. Boom, boom, boom. Bears say, oh, we're trading up. Justin Fields, though, which, by the way, might be incredible. Not 100% sure. None of us know what's going to happen with the Bears and Justin Fields going forward. I don't think anybody does. And are they going to be in Arlington?

Oh, Arlington Park. Done deal. Is that going to happen? I saw the scheme for it. Oh, it looks cool. Anyways, he falls all the way down the draft to fucking Bill Belichick. Hell yeah. And then all of a sudden, the internet, which is where we live, starts posting photos of

Tom Brady's sorry sap of a body whenever he was at the combine. And then Matt Jones' photo with the cigar. And they're like, look at this guy. Look at his base. Look at his brain. Look at his intelligence. Look at his competitive edge. Look at how he can throw a ball. Of course, Bill Belichick with the final sign-off by Matt Patricia. That's right. People forget. Watch the

video. Of course, Bill Belichick found an instant replacement, basically, for Tom Brady. And that was the conversation for a day and a half or so. Then, remember, a convo happened that people were upset that Matt Jones was starting over Cam Newton. The only people that were upset was the national audience, though. New England was like, nah, we would like that new Tom Brady-looking thing.

Right now. We would like the new Tom Brady-looking thing right now. We would like the new Tom Brady looking thing right now. Hey, we respect Cam. Thanks for coming in. That offense last year looked nothing like the 20 years of success we had. And that thing that looks exactly like the thing that brought us like six, seven parades, that thing, we would like to see that thing. Cam Newton, national story was he did get screwed.

Because remember, there was a test that didn't happen then he was suspended and he couldn't practice he was in quarantine Mac Jones went into the New York Giants I think was it the Giants and just lit him up in practice and behind the scenes and Bill and Josh McDaniels was like how did everybody fuck this up how did we get this guy and then there was a learning curve and everything like that. But as the days unfold, it appears as if Mac Jones is not going to suck. No. It appears as if Mac Jones isn't just going to be, hmm. It appears as if Mac Jones is going to be a guy.

Oh, yeah. And it feels like the New England Patriots organization and their fans should be dancing on everybody else's graves. Yeah. and their fans should be dancing on everybody else's graves because there has been franchises that have stunk perpetually in perpetuity. For years. There's teams that have always been terrible. And Bill Belichick had one down year, loses his guy, loses a lot of his roster, a lot of turnover. Then they come back, spend $153 million,

and somehow 14 teams let this guy fall to them. Because there's other teams that happen, a lot of turnover. Then they come back, spend $153 million, and somehow 14 teams let this guy fall to them. Because there's other teams that happen, like the Detroit Lions. The Detroit Lions, after yesterday's slate of games, in the first year of 17 games being played

in a season, the Detroit Lions are going to figure out how to go 0-16. And yesterday, we should have known that was going to happen. We should have appreciated that. They played to a tie yesterday against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Whoa, whoa, whoa. And in this office, it's obviously a big deal. But when you think about what New England was able to do with Mac, and then you think

about the Detroit Lions, and just two opposite ends of the spectrum on how they've consumed football your entire life, it's a fascinating thing because yesterday was the perfect picture of this. Tone Diggs, Frank Moraldo, myself, grew up in Pittsburgh. The Steelers have been great forever. Now, there was some years, obviously, always going to be years, but always good, always sold out stadiums, always, you know, just all those things. Now, nowhere near the dynasty that New England has had over the last 20 years, but if you go all the way back, the Steelers have always, the city, the citizens,

The city, the citizens always expect success. At the Yinser is becoming the face of that. That is basically every Yinser dad yelling at the screen. But yesterday, a city like Detroit and a city like Pittsburgh, who have a lot in common when it comes to work ethic and grit, and a lot of those are blue-collar cities, okay, a lot of them. One fell, the other fell, one came back, the other fighting still. Like two cities, you know, that are very similar. Polar opposite reactions to when their team ties.

Insane. We saw a fan of a team that could still go 0-16-1 at this point. No signs that that first number is going to be changed. Other than yesterday when a 6'5 kicker, I don't know what happened on that 48-yarder, Santoso. With that mustache, that can't be happening. That guy has to bomb balls. I don't know what happened there.

I wish he would have made that because I'm always pulling for it and also how today would have been. Foxy, fan of Motor City, Dan Campbell and the Lions. Tone Diggs in this particular case, visual representation of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tone Diggs almost went into a cave and didn't come back yesterday. Foxy literally sprinted out of his house into his backyard to celebrate a tie. Tone, I'll lead off with you.

You guys tied maybe the worst team in the history of football. Your thoughts. My thoughts, as the game ended, I was disappointed because it was disappointing. But as I was saying all week, I thought the Lions were going to win. And then Ben Roethlisberger's out, and Mason Rudolph, who is the worst quarterback in the NFL, comes in. I'm happy to get a tie, Pat.

You know what? I was thinking about it last night. Could have been a lot worse. Could have been. You saw the tweet. If we would have lost, we would have been in the ninth seed. Now we're in the fifth seed. I thought it was a great result for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Okay, so this is quite a zoomed out. Oh, yeah. Because your immediate reaction was you actually almost kicked the camera that was filming you. And Foxy's immediate reaction. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking after Moose, you know, follows the rock and the Lions get the ball

back. Foxy was so, so happy. Evan, please chat about what that tie means to the city of Detroit. First and foremost, guys, T's and P's to Big Ben Roethlisberger. Okay. We hope he survives. We hope he survives.

With that being said, we didn't lose a game last night. Let's go! Happy for those boys. Happy for MCDC. Not his first win. How about MCDC yesterday? He's calling plays. Calling the plays.

Jared's here the whole game. Hey, let's go home, Jared. We're going to run the ball, man. Grounded pond football. Two blue-collar... I mean, it doesn't get much better than that. That's how football was meant to be played that game yesterday. And of course it ended in a tie. I'll take it. We needed that. 0-16 still on the

table, as you said. 0-16 two times could be the only team to ever go 0-16 twice. It would be unbelievable. Although MCDC was not the first Lions coach table as you said the own 16 two times could be the only team to ever go on 16 twice it'd be unbelievable although mcdc was not the first lions coach to begin his career as a lions fan going oh and eight it does appear he could potentially be the second one to ever go oh and 16 but hey lions are fighting every week that's right and with mcdc getting a grip of that offense a little bit more maybe against the steelers a tie is just the first step. You've got to crawl before you can walk.

That's right. And then you have to walk before you can run. That's right. The Lions maybe crawled into losses. Yesterday they walked to a tie, and then all of a sudden these Lions in their pride are going to run in spring. Oh, yeah. Maybe.

Or the Steelers need Ben back. What if he misses Sunday night football against the Char spring. Oh, yeah. Maybe. Or the Steelers need Ben back. What if he misses Sunday night football against the Chargers? Oh, no. What if Ben Roethlisberger, who's vaccinated, right? Yeah. Vaccinated, can't produce two negative tests with 24 hours in between them. How long is that? Do we know the days?

Is it just 10 days? Is it a certain amount of days after you're asymptomatic? For instance, there's conflicting reports on the internet, and I only know this because I am vaccinated and I got COVID, of when I'm allowed to potentially be in public. Sure. Allegedly, a couple days after symptoms end, you are no longer...

Risk? Spreading it or a carrier or anything like that? Yeah, contagious. Contagious, there it is. Allegedly after, is that what the NFL rules are? Have you looked into it at all, or you just assume Ben will be back for Sunday? All I know is, all I've heard is it's two negative tests.

I couldn't produce a negative for 11 days. Yeah. But my test might have been much shittier than the ones that they are taking. I'm not 100% sure. Like Ben, I trust in our Lord and Savior, and I assume he's going to put Ben back on the field. What are your five pillars once again here,

just so we can know what we're listening to here? Faith. Faith. Family. Football. Your job. Your gambling record. Hell yeah.

I hope. Isn't it crazy, though? Whenever you count in America, okay? Oh, yeah. You know, the thumb is five for you there in europe the thumbs one that's right but in america the thumb is last and the fingers first and isn't it crazy that when you make a fist and you're your most strength uh strong dicks faith and gambling right there next to each other isn Isn't that pretty awesome? Because I pray to the gambling gods.

Oh, every day. But if it's not going to be Ben, I think it should be Dewey Haskins. We've seen enough of Mason. We know what Mason's going to do. He's not the future. Why is he throwing like this? It looks like he is throwing a javelin when he throws the ball. He drops some in there.

Yeah, yeah, sure. There's a couple balls that he drops in there. His throwing motion, though, just seems like he, I don't know, maybe flicks it a little bit more than anybody. I'm glad you brought that up, and I'm glad you noticed it, because when he played quarterback in the past, I said it looks like he's throwing a fucking balloon all the time. Oh, yeah, and I think you said this morning a kickball.

Basically a kickball. Anything that is maybe a beach ball is a better interpretation of that. You know what I think he did? I think he spent too much time in the pool as a kid, and he had the Nerf ball and he'd soak it up with all the water in the pool that he could and then try and throw it. That's how he developed that motion. Okay, maybe. He used to the ball

weighing 65 pounds. I don't even blame him for yesterday. The fucking defense it took them and if that happens, the season's over. It took them four and a half quarters It took them four and a half quarters to realize that Jared Goff fucking stinks. Whoa.

He's bad, Pat. So what are you saying? Hold on. So you're saying a couple things. He's bad, you're saying? Yeah, he is terrible. No, no, no. I thought in weeks past we would have been able to recognize that when he would throw

the ball away on fourth down. Or he'd throw the ball to his guard, not even his tackle. I knew this was going to happen. He was going to have some sort of injury. He probably won't play this week. We won't see Jared Goff for the rest of the season. I knew this was going to happen. MCDC is fed up with him. You guys are only paying him like $30 million or something like that.

You were taking quite a shot at Tomlin here and we need to move on. Obviously, Ty is taking up too much time on the show right now. Tom, why does he keep playing Rudolph? You don't think he's a good evaluator? You don't think he's a good person to say, hey, this is the guy who should be leading our team? Every single time we think it's not going to be Rudolph, it is Rudolph.

And I wonder why. I honestly do. Tomlin really likes him. Why do you think he's always doing it? Unfortunately, I think he's just the best option on the team right now. So you want Dewey? You said you want Dewey. Well, yeah, yeah.

That doesn't mean that Dewey's the best option. I just like, we've seen enough from Mason. You know what you got. They're not, listen. Hey, you're not going to win games. You're not going to lose games either with Mason. That's true. You're not going to win games. You're not going to lose games. Mason Rudolph

will get you a tie, though. I mean, he will go out there and do that for you. That game was terrible to watch. Terrible. My last thing. You talked about Lions fans, Steelers fans being polar opposites. And, like, I know we are different in the way I've, like, watched football. I don't know how good teams, like fans of good teams do it. Because I almost had a heart attack yesterday. That's off to all of you guys.

Oh, I had to care about a game. First time. Normally I don't have to care about a game. That's up to all of you guys. Hey, good grit getting to it. Good time, baby. All right, it's a perfect time to get to the toxic table because a guy who has to watch games that do matter

and a guy was playing in a game that potentially also had a heart thing going on. Happy to hear Aaron Rodgers' heart was okay. Don't know what the toe was. I saw the internet let the jokes fly what the toe was. Saw how the internet let the jokes fly about the toe injury. You know, about how everything went, and I can respect and appreciate that. I assume Aaron did

as well. He was mobile. Looked like he was able to take some shots. I mean, he ripped that ball out of old buddy's hand on the fumbled snap to get that back. I still think that was a terrible call, but I like the fact that the tie goes to the runner in that particular case. Kind of boring game.

Seemed to start cold and rusty. You guys get a massive win, and the defense looks to be unbelievable. A couple years ago, Chicago Bears opening night, Aaron beats the Bears. Very low-scoring game. After the game, he said, Hey, we got some stuff to figure out.

We got a defense, though. This is something that Green Bay Packers fans have been dreaming about for a long time. The last time you had a top, what, 10 or 5 defense, you guys won the Super Bowl. Your big takeaway from yesterday, Aaron's return, beating the hell out of Russell Wilson and the Seattle Seahawks. Yeah, I mean, offense was very rusty. Obviously, it doesn't matter how good you are. You don't practice with guys for 10 days. You're going to miss some throws.

So I don't think anyone expects that to be a problem going forward. There's people that think he potentially lost it. There's people saying he's a terrible quarterback. Yeah, a lot of buffoons out there. Obviously, we know that. But, yeah, I mean, hand up. I was wrong. I need to make an apology.

I mean, the Packers' defense is fucking unbelievable. Joe Barry's got the boys up on his ankle. Legit. They are unbelievable. I mean, it Packers' defense is fucking unbelievable. Joe Barry's got the boys up on his table. Legit, they are unbelievable. I mean, it just, getting pressure, and they're very banged up too. Guys are just stepping up and playing well. Aaron Jones yesterday, I mean, on the broadcast, they made it sound like he tore his ACL and was going to be out for the season.

He's not. He's only out a week or two. Special teams, obviously, still major concern. But if their defense plays like that, that stat was going around. They they've played kyler mahomes and russ in the last three weeks and given up 34 points they could beat anybody now russ has been throwing the ball to air and breaking down huddles with nobody right and obviously visualizing defenses attacking. Just like the 10 days for Aaron, I assume the Russell Wilson rust will also wear off. So it's a great time to be the Packers defense and face Russell Wilson.

But also, you guys are getting players back on the defensive side of the ball. Like big time players are coming back. Is that going to ruin? Hey, like OBJ coming back to the Browns. Is that going to ruin the chemistry that Joe Barry's building right now? Is that team finally playing good defense,

and then you guys are going to bring back star players and go to shit? I don't think so. I think that just means, hey, you got some depth in years past. It's like, hey, you got one of these guys that goes down, and the guy that's replacing him is not ready to be replacing him. This year, everyone has stepped up. Their secondary has been unbelievable, and they're without Jair Alexander, who's the best player on their defense.

He's coming back. Z'Darrius Smith's coming back. Rashawn Gary, he got hurt yesterday, but he's starting to step it up a little bit. A.J. Dillon's getting hot. The Giraffe is coming back. Packers are in a very good spot right now, and especially when you look at the division. I mean, shit, they're like

four and a half games up right now. Hey, driver's seat of the NFC, baby. Now Vikings get a big win against the Chargers who might be dead. Yeah, maybe. Who knows what the hell's going on over there? I don't know. But whenever you talk about building a roster, hey, good to kids. Good job.

Oh, yeah. Good job, Mark. Hey, somebody clip that. Somebody clip that. No question. Because we have never said that. Hey, good to kids. good work on that roster. Yeah.

That defense side showing up. That's right. Now, we are just in week 10 going into a week 11 here after tonight's incredible matchup between the Rams and the Niners in a three-and-a-half point spread, although everybody's betting on the Rams is what Gumpy's telling me. And that line ain't moving at all. What do the sportsbooks know that we don't know?

No Robert Woods, which is an absolute shame. Tearing an ACL in practice, terrible, especially for a superstar. Now, Odell Beckham Jr. joins the squad. Who knows how that will affect it? But this game tonight, to wrap up Week 10, is a great one. And I think we learned a lot about a lot of teams yesterday. I think we can go into Week 11 feeling like, okay, the water seems to have maybe found its level a great one. And I think we learned a lot about a lot of teams yesterday. I think we can go into week 11 feeling like, okay, the water seems to have maybe found its level a little bit.

So maybe next week's when we do good gambling. Maybe next weekend is the weekend where we get hot and we don't turn back. And maybe next weekend is the weekend that begins a winning pain train against FanDuel. That FanDuel is going to be pissed that they agreed to a 17-game season because it's an extra week because I feel like we are starting to learn about some squads.

For instance, the more we go forward, it's almost like we have to take the trip back. Of course. That's right. The more things seem to change, the more it feels like it's the same. Yeah. Wow. In the AFC, the two hottest teams, now the Chiefs might have found their,

and can we get that sidebar, please? The Chiefs might have found their X factor again, although the cocaine alcohol X factor is no longer a super fan. The Chiefs might have found their X Factor, which is don't let Jackson Mahomes go to the game. That's right. Bingo. Exactly.

The football gods said, hey, listen, I know we're gods and we got to do this in Sin City, but since Jackson isn't here, we are going to show you how good you can be and remind you of what this offense can be. Travis Kelsey getting loose again. Patrick Mahomes absolutely slinging the rock. Tyreek Hill check downs to wheel routes to running backs out of the backfield. Defense getting hungry, getting the ball.

The Chiefs might have found their X factor again, but that's only one game. The two hottest teams in the AFC. And I don't know how to say this, and it does feel like we've just taken a trip back in time. It's the Colts and the Patriots. Boom! The Colts, now they

played Irving Meyer. Sure. They were up 17 zip within the first like five minutes, by the way. blocked punt td hate to see it for logan cook who's a an absolute bomber but what a great block for a cud and then jonathan taylor runs wild carson wentz carson wentz in a positive fashion then they kind of got stagnant there they're gonna have to be able to step on jaguars throats yeah going forward if they want to be great but the colts don't look now, have found their identity,

and their identity runs through the guy in the backfield. His name's Jonathan Taylor, and if the Colts continue to do what they're doing, the running game, offensive line included, should be in conversation with the MVP talk. Like, I legit think that Jonathan Taylor's getting the rock a lot for Indy, and when he's getting the ball a lot, the Colts are doing very well. He's an absolute stud. Carson Wentz seems to be doing his thing.

T.Y. Hilton. Carson Wentz seems to stop, you know, just overlooking T.Y. Hilton. Freezing him out. Getting the ball. It feels like he's icing him out a little bit. But T.Y.'s been out a lot of games in a feeling out period for Carson and his wide receivers. You know, T.Y. hasn't been there. But there's a couple plays where T.Y.s been out a lot of games in a feeling out period for Carson and his wide receivers. You know, T.Y. hasn't been there. But there's a couple plays where T.Y. was dragging across the middle.

And I thought, oh, okay, I got T.Y. for an anytime touchdown scorer because he's back and it's his fucking birthday. I mean, here we go. And Carson just hawks it out of the back of the hand. I'm like, Carson, just look at the guy. Throw it. But Carson has done an incredible job. Jonathan Taylor has done that as well. The Colts are a problem.

That defense is great. The special teams, they got the money badger kicking for them now. He's got a big-time leg. Here we go. But on the other side, the Patriots are incredibly hot right now. Yeah, they are. It feels like you guys never lost faith. You knew that you guys were going to be great again.

You knew Bill was going to build something back up. There's no way the Patriots fans truly felt that you guys were going to be able to get back to this point as quickly as you did. Didn't you have a little bit of fear? Yeah. Didn't you have a little bit of, hey, you know what? We're going to stink for a little bit because you were staring down potential Foxy life.

Yeah. Wow. You were staring down potential Cleveland people before this entire run. Yeah. You were potentially staring down suck after suck, and then all of a sudden $160 million is spent on the first day of the tampering free agency period.

And then Mac Jones falls. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. What a wild time. The Patriots fans are so, so lucky. What a time for you, and what are your thoughts on that Patriots squad? Well, I just want to say, you know, last year, pal, we did go 7-9,

so I did get a taste of that other life, the other half of football at the Lions. Hey, that's not Foxy. Oh, no. 7-9, so I did get a taste of that other life, the other half of football at the Lions. Hey, that's not Foxy. Oh, no. 7-9 is nowhere near 7-9. Yeah, he killed for a 7-9, but hey, I understand what he did there. You guys were kind of falling down the stairs. A little bit.

You weren't at the, you know, this is like the emergency stair exits at a hotel. Uh-huh. You guys did fall down to like floor 7-8, you know what I mean? Sure. That's nowhere near where the Foxy folks are. The basement. Yeah, they hit that turn, and they're only picking up speed. You know what I mean?

You guys stopped somehow, which is incredible. That's why Bill Belichick's the guy he is. Yeah, and I think with how well the defense has played, similar to the Packers, and then you also think about how Matt Jones just refuses to make mistakes. He doesn't throw any kind of questionable balls that you think rookies might do. So I mean, yeah, it's unbelievable. The Patriots probably going to the Super Bowl. The only worry is it's so close in that AFC. Like Tony mentioned,

you lose a game, you're the ninth seed, you win the game, you're the two seed. So with the Chiefs coming back, it's going to be a long road, but a lot of meaningful games. It's all you can really ask for, especially after last year not being in the playoff hunt. That's the worst thing of all time. I wouldn't want to wish that upon anyone. But it really does feel like 2004, Pat's Colts, Peyton, fucking Tom Brady back in the AFC. Now, since you brought it up, we have to get to it. And I'm incredibly happy for you, New England.

Happy for you, too. No, hey, happy for you. No, no, man. I'm happy for you, man. What, hey, happy for you, man. No, no, man. I'm happy for you, man. What did we start? One and four, the Colts started? I think so. It was like one and four or something like that.

That's a tough hole to build yourself out of. Frank, Chris, there was a lot of calls for like, hey, these two might not be getting right. They didn't even blink, I don't think. They do that a lot. Like, wasn't it two years ago they were 0-4 to start, and then they came back and made the play? I wonder why that is. You know, I wonder what... Some teams, I guess, just do that. And they were really banged up at the start of the year this year too.

All those guys going down in training camp. Oh, yeah, they never really were together. They didn't really get to match at all. Yeah. Colts could be a squad though. Oh, yeah. Just a heads up. Tennessee keeps winning too though.

Yeah, somehow. Yeah. Tennessee doing what they did. I mean, nobody could have – I think I picked the Titans, which was one of my only wins of the week. I went 5-7. AJ went 7-5. Tough week. A lot of blows.

Tough week. A lot of blows. Colts. But the Titans continuing to steamroll is un-fucking-believable. The Saints, now they got Simeon and Taysom Hill running the rock and throwing the ball a little bit more. And I don't know what they're going to look like for the future. I don't think they do either. That could have been a part

of the Odell Beckham Jr. situation. But the Titans, being able to withstand without Derrick Henry, who was their back, he was their offense. And then Vrabes and that defense and them just kind of changing. Julio's played like one game this year. Yeah, he's on the IR. What's that? Julio's played one or two games this year.

Yeah, he's out for the next three weeks at least. That's a big-time acquisition. And by the way, I guess I was wrong completely because if you looked at the overall career of Julio, he didn't miss many games except for the last couple years. But was that because he wasn't as thrilled to be in Atlanta? They were resting him? What was going on there? That Titans squad, hey, Braves' Donner coaching his ass off.

Oh, yeah. Braves is coaching his ass off. But the Colts, they have a game that can travel. Jonathan Taylor is the leading rusher in the NFL right now with Derrick Henry out. He did pass him, I assume, finally. Because Derrick Henry was ahead of everybody in the NFL without playing for two weeks still

with how many yards he had. Jonathan Taylor has passed him, I think. I haven't grabbed Gertie's graphic, but I'm looking at it. They're actually tied, Derrick Henry and Jonathan Taylor, 937 yards. Okay. So now, granted, whose stats did we take and do the math from? Right.

I mean, that is a lot, but Dertie does incredible work in that whole thing. So Jonathan Taylor is now the league's leading rusher. And if you look back to Derrick Henry and what the Titans have been able to do and ride Derrick Henry into, you know, the offseason and into the playoffs. I mean, they haven't been able to get over the hump, but that run game mixed with Carson maybe just chilling a little bit more, they can really travel in there. They're going to have to get past that Titan squad, though,

that I don't think anybody knows anything about. Has the Colts considered, because he did it again yesterday, tying Carson's left hand behind his back so he doesn't fucking try to throw with that? Well, Patrick Mahomes throws it left-handed. He gets applauded for it. That's right. Carson Wentz throws it left-handed.

And I know the last time he did throw it left-handed, he was getting tackled by five people in his end zone through a pick six against the Titan squad that we were just talking about. But Carson's got to practice that too. You know what I mean? He's got that in his game. By the way, I believe his baby was not born yesterday. Oh, nice.

So he did not miss the – Thank you, baby. Thank you, baby, for waiting. Good work, I believe his baby was not born yesterday. Oh, nice. So he did not miss. Thank you, baby. Thank you, baby, for waiting. Good work, baby. Thank you, Duke Bobcat. Colt. Thank you, Colt Duke Bobcat. That's fucked up. We shouldn't make fun of Carson. We're not. No, we're not. Kind of are. No, think about it.

That's a great name. It is Colt Duke Bobcat Wentz. That kid will be the first Ballot Hall of Fame NFL quarterback if they about it. It's a great name. It is Colt Duke Bobcat Wentz. It's true. He's not making fun of them. First ballot hall of fame NFL quarterback, if they name it that. And a lifetime member of the FFA. Hey! That's what I make for a little pay. And I'm proud to say I'm a top-tier. I'm a top-tier.

I'm a top-tier. I'm a top-tier. I'm a top-tier. I'm a top-tier. I'm a top-tier. I'm a top-tier. I'm a top-tier. I'm a top-tier.

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You know, because the FFA has all their meetings here in Indianapolis. So you'll drive through downtown. I don't know if they're back or not. You'll drive through downtown. There'll be blue denim jackets on top of denim jeans on the bottom. About 13 to 17-year-olds, and there's 10,000 of them just walking through the streets of Indianapolis. It's like, oh, it's FFA.

Future Farmers Association of America. Getting together. What do they figure out? Like new seeds and stuff? You think they go through that whole right? Getting together. What do they figure out? Like new seeds and stuff? Yeah. You think they go through that whole thing? Farming strategies. Yeah.

What they're doing with their livestock, whatnot. You think there's a roast session of the Bobcat or the John Deere? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think that's like the opening salvo that they come out with and they point to like one guy in the crowd. They're like, this dumb motherfucker uses Bobcat. They say that?

Oh, yeah. And everyone just roasts the guy and he eventually just leaves. in the future farmers association of america that's like kind of like hey we do bury the bobcat yeah we are not a bobcat community everyone here knows nothing runs like a deer this guy doesn't don't get the fuck out of here do you think carson was potentially that kid one day maybe and that is why he plays the way he plays. Because he is calloused so much that he was mocked and ridiculed by the FFA for driving a Bobcat instead of a John Deere. Are you saying he plays like a Bobcat? No.

Maybe potential live Bobcat. He does play like that. But I think because of his Bobcat love, he was ridiculed so hard by the John Deere folk that now he feels like he has to prove everything to everybody, every single play, at all stops. I mean, it's definitely possible. But, you know, if he had a good head on his shoulders,

he would have realized, like, hey, these guys aren't trying to light me up. They're trying to show me the light. Bobcat is a far inferior product to a John Deere. Everyone knows it. All right. It's true. I don't know. You know, I go to the state fair here.

They got these John Deere's out here. I do love that as farmers kind of evolve, they just decide to get bigger motherfuckers so they have to do less work. Those things are nice. Huge. Yeah. An entire, I think a country mile, this one in the wheel is the size of our building. You can literally stand inside of it.

I mean, we get those pictures all the time for like the end of the podcast. And some of those guys, I mean, it's like a goddamn military cockpit in there. Like it's unbelievable. Hey, that's what John Deere does. I did notice the Packers were shoveling with a John Deere tractor. Of course. And when you drive into the office, they're working on the bridges and whatnot. And the overpass is guess what machinery they're using.

They're using deer. Notice that this morning. I said, you know what? We're going to be just fine. This is not a John Deere ad, by the way. No. This is 100% just a passion project of Ty's. Ty from the great state of Iowa.

Absolutely fed up that anybody would use anything but a goddamn deer. I mean, it says it right in the slogan. Nothing runs like a deer. Why would you want to run with a bob the slogan, nothing runs like a deer. You know? I mean, why would you want to run with a bobcat when you can run with a deer? Yeah.

Ty, you should be the face of John Deere. I don't think you've ever farmed a day in your life. No, I haven't. I got a nice John Deere jean jacket in my closet, too. Yeah. You know, I love wearing it, and I'll proudly wear it. You know, speaking of the John Deere plowing the snow over there at Lambeau,

I saw those long johns. As soon as Aaron puts those long johns on, like the cream-colored long sleeve, that's when you know Aaron's going to win. Yeah. And they talk about how good he is in the cold weather and everything like that. Not that he was his best yesterday. But I guess his hand size with the ball is a very real and i wonder if they even thought about that with like

jordan love or anybody going forward like hey a massive advantage for us is that it gets cold as shit in this particular stadium and this guy can who's from california by the way he can play just as if it's warm weather it's not a problem it's actually an advantage so anytime you see that that goddamn long john come out and he thinks it's a little bit chilly it feels like they win those games he his overall record okay and they just won their 451st yep home game which is the most in the history of the NFL passing the Bears, who had 450 home wins. Congrats to the Bears. Oldest

organizations, obviously. That's why these conversations happen, but 451. Aaron is like 82-19-1 or something at home in his career. Damn. Think about that. 17 years, 16 years, however long it's been. 82-19-1. Russell Wilson played like shit completely,

but it feels like once, you know, he even said it to us, you know, when those leaves turn and there's a little bit of a crisp in the air, he said, that's when I get a little twinkle in my eye. And I think it's because he knows that he is much better in the cold than some people. Like, there's some people that just aren't cold-weather people. Now, there's people in football that have to deal with it because you're playing in they try to

combat it whether you wear the long sleeves or you'll see people put a you know a lot of vaseline on because that cuts the wind you know what i mean it's like the old school swooshy pants you put those on there there's always ways to try and combat it but there's some people that just get it and got it and there's some people that hate it and trying to combat it it's just it's two different ways to look at it and somehow the dude from butte county california has the mindset like oh this is an advantage as opposed to the other thing and it's all framed in his mind and he didn't play anywhere near his best but it feels like that packer squad hey that's a wagon oh yeah oh yeah well and you mentioned like the hands too like i mean yeah you there's nothing you can do if there's massive wind

and stuff like that. But their offense really doesn't change that much with the weather because you don't have to worry about him not knowing how to handle it or anything. And A.J. Dillon, I mean, it's just kind of been, like, once he gets going, he did the same thing last year. They had a big game in December against the Titans, and that was kind of his coming out party range for, like, 150 yards.

But getting him going, too, Aaron Jones only being out, they're going to be very, very tough to beat, especially if they stay atop of the NFC. Let's talk about another NFC team. Hey, the Cowboys. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, Mike McCartney said, listen, I'll get the fucking watermelon back on. Remember last week against the Broncos,

Jerry said that he and Mike, me and Mike, went through that game playing fucking diligently. We had a plan. We expected what they did. We just didn't expect a success. We thought we'd be able to put it out. I thought we'd be able to win the game. We were surprised.

And there was a lot of chat this morning. I think Rex Ryan, who we are big fans of, and I think you should be too if you ever listen to him speak, he said Jerry Jones is the one that motivated that team, the coaches, the players. He's the one that put the pressure outside after the blowout loss in Jerry World last week and basically said like, this

is not except Hagee. Not in our fucking house. You know, I built this motherfucker with my own money. We got motherfuckers dancing in boxes up there. You see that? You see, every seat in here is fucking expansive. You know why? Because we're a good football team with stars. We don't fucking lose to Teddy Bridgewater

in the goddamn Broncos. Imagine if that's what he told Mike McCarthy on Monday, told the team on Monday, and then when Mike was going through the game plan with Jerry, which we now know does happen every single week. Jerry, we ain't fucking losing to Matt Ryan. We lost to Teddy Bridgewater last week. I don't need it.

Them coming out and stomping. Yeah. Just diligently stomping a hole in the fucking Falcons was awesome to watch. It was the poster child of how nothing is predictable in the NFL. Yep. There was zero reason for the Cowboys to do what they did last week and zero reason for the Cowboys to do what they did this week. And the Falcons, by the way, they were getting

going. They were a good squad as well. And all of a sudden you run into a buzzsaw like the Cowboys. Two weeks ago, Cowboys, best team in the NFL. Last week, team's terrible. I can't wait to hear what they're going to say about them this week because they did showcase what their potential could be if this is how they go. How do you maintain that? Do you think it's strictly watermelons out of Big Mike McCarthy? Do you think Dak Prescott handled it perfectly and said,

Yeah, we got embarrassed. We got our ass kicked. Then we just move on. Dak is a guy, by the way. Dak is a dude for sure. What a fucking win. And if you're a Falcons fan, you've got to be a little distraught about what the future potentially holds.

You talked about them last week and then this week. I feel like this season overall as a whole, there's more of these games where you have no fucking clue. Like these bad teams are beating these good teams, and it makes no sense. It started last week and the week before. Bucs happened with Bucs yesterday too. Like I don't – good luck fucking picking any of these.

Well, I haven't had much. I haven't had much luck, which it actually made me – the Superboost got killed. Okay, because the goddamn Buccaneers, what are we doing? Huh? Class. Urban Meyer, chop house gun, what are we doing at the Succoneers

showing up in Washington? Now, there was a lot of conversation because I did have the Succoneers in the Superboost. Sure. I'm sorry, I had the Buccaneers in the Super Bowl. That's right. If I would have known what was going to happen, and Taylor Heineke was going to lead a 45-minute drive.

What was that? To seal the game. To seal the game. Taylor Heineke matriculated. Oh, yeah. Methodically. Yep. Right down the Buccaneers' throats to end that game. matriculated methodically right down

the Buccaneers' throats to end that game. First half came out. Thought the old guys, the champions, the people that are living down in Tampa having a good view of the Gulf, of the Bay out there living their best life. Joints feeling good. Winning Super Bowls. Having

say over what's going on. I'm not just talking about TB12. I'm talking about that entire team, coaching staff included, all very veteran, hey, we're having a good time. I thought after the bye week, you know, they'd say, hey, now we go. Right. Just like they did last year. Coming out of the bye week after Atlanta, second half of Atlanta,

they got going. Bye week, they fixed some things. They came out of that on the other side. Oh, this team's going to win a Super Bowl. Boom, they go. Coming out of this bye week, Washington was coming out of a bye week. They fixed some things. They came out of that on the other side. Oh, this team's going to win a Super Bowl. Boom, they go. Coming out of this bye week, Washington was coming out of a bye week as well. I just assumed the same. Hey, all those big-ass fucking brains down there in Tampa. A lot

of them. The GOATS brain is down there. Let alone a coaching staff that might actually have 500 years of football experience. The amount of... Tom Moore's down there. He backed up Johnny fucking Unitas. He's still coaching down there.

He's not the only one. There's guys that have been coaching forever down there. Coming out of the bye week, I thought there would have been a lot of, oh, self-scout, this is what we need to do. This is what we can't do. And you assume with a veteran-led group, like, okay, hey, we're not going to just lay an egg here

after bye week. There's not going to just lay an egg here after bye week. There's not going to be a hangover. Washington just fucking handled them. And Vita Vea got hurt on the second-to-last play. They're saying bone bruise and MCL. So he'll be, I guess, week-to-week depending upon the pain. He's a big guy. But if they lose him, they're in trouble.

They looked bad. Buccaneers looked bad. And I did not expect it at all. And I apologize for that because that super boost was supposed to hit. Oh, yeah. With what the Bills did to Mike White. Yeah. Mike White.

Good run. Good run. We don't know. Hey, we don't know. Of course. They were chanting for Flacco, I guess, in a stance. Uh-huh. He came in.

Hey, New Jersey, New York, we'll turn quick. Oh, yeah. Mike White chants a few weeks ago. Locker room. Locker room. Chanting Mike White. All of a sudden yesterday. Give us Flacco. Feed us Flacco.

I mean, Jets fans have, you know, they got to do what they got to do. And I got a text from one particular Jet fan with a list of stats, obviously. The Jets have allowed 175 points in their last four games the second most allowed in a four-game span by any team since the 1970 afl nfl merger they're the first team to allow at least 45 points three times in a four-game span since the 1966 New York football Giants. They have surrendered 1,890 total yards during the abysmal stretch, the worst four-game period in Jets history. That's all coming from Michael Cole, obviously. Michael Cole is pumped.

So it's not just Mike White or Flacco or Zach. They're also terrible on the defensive side, which is what Bob Sala got brought in to fix. They might be terrible, but that's why we put the Bills on the goddamn Super Boots. And the Super Boots was dancing. Dancing. Dancing.

And then at halftime, I looked around the scores and I'm like, what the fuck's going on in Tampa? Halftime. Don't worry about it. Halftime, they'll get on there, they'll Kornacki this thing. It seems like the middle of our fucking offensive line is getting killed by their defensive line that has three first rounders. Out of Alabama. They're just beating the fuck out of us right here. So we should just do anything else.

All right? I thought that's what was going to happen. Yeah. Turns out, no, second half actually. Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!

Interesting. Bang! Bang! And then Heineke gets the ball and says, how much time is left in this game? 75 minutes? You got it. 19 plays. Walks that thing away.

10 minutes and 20 seconds. It was fucking unbelievable. That's insane. It was Taylor Heineke against the Super Bowl champion. And listen, no offense. Hey, I love Taylor. Oh, yeah. Pretty show.

Pretty show. Came on the show. Love him. How the fuck does that happen? What happened during the bye week? Let's assume next week they're on Monday Night Football, I think the Bucs are, against the Giants. This is probably going to be a how you doing, keep it moving game for the Bucs. But I thought that would have came this particular time.

It killed our super boost. Bullshit. We should get to a break. We should. We got Darius Butler in the next hour. Here we go. We got A.J. Hawk in the next hour. Wow.

I know. I mean, a lot happened. This is a big time overreaction Monday. I didn't think A.J. was going to be here today. Why? It's been a long weekend. He was at the Ohio State game sitting in the 400 section.

Breaking news. Monday Night Manning cast guest list just got revealed. Hey! Hey! Phil Mickelson! Draymond Green. Here we go.

And last but not least, in the fourth quarter, that gummit, Phil Rivers. All right! Phil Rivers is electrified. Yeah, that's going to be good. That is good for the fourth quarter. Great for the fourth quarter. The other three are going to be good, too.

What? Draymond Green will be great. He knows media. Yeah. He'll come in. Al Michaels and Phil Mickelson, I assume, will be prompted by questions. Potential great stories. Phil's got it.

Well, Phil also, by the way, he just won something this weekend. Charles Schwab. Yeah. I don't know what that is. I believe they are financial advice. Yeah, but they have a golf thing, too. Oh, yeah. Big invitation.

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All-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup champion, and nosebleed seat having for the Ohio State Buckeye game, A.J. Hall. A.J. Hall. How's it going? What's up, guys? I thought you were going to have old purple nose today

from sitting up there in the clods with the wind potentially, you know, busting you right in your face at that Ohio State Buckeye game. That wasn't your photo you posted. That was somebody else's. That was absolutely my photo, and those seats are great. It's in, like, the first section down there. It was beautiful. I really had a good time.

Really? I just assumed that you and the kids, Axel more specific, got to be on the field and call the plays and everything because of who you are and your stature in the Ohio State world. I think everybody appreciated the fact, though, that you wanted your kids to see what it's like in the freezing cold bleachers. Yep. And the entire – that's good.

Hey, that's good dad. Good parents, AJ. They wanted to go to a game, so we went to a game. Like, what else are you going to do? Go stand on the sidelines? That's not going to a game. What are they learning there? Yeah, that is true.

Standing on the sidelines is nothing like – It's stupid, too. I'm not going to call and reach out to somebody. Hey, can I come watch warm-ups? I'm not going to make some poor guy, like some... Hey, can I make sure my pass to my kids and my kid's friend that I brought come onto the field and probably try to catch a punt and get

somebody hurt? Okay, well, Axel probably would have went and done that. Maybe take somebody out, but I do appreciate the fact that you're just regular dad out there. Just regular dad. Did you guys stop by and see Uncle Waxy? Or did you stop by? I don't know if he was at the game or not.

It was pretty cool, but luckily Ohio State played well, scored a bunch of points. Yeah, that's because A.J. Hawk was in the house. Maybe you should go to more games so they can continue to be dominant. Let's talk about the NFL Sunday. I love you being a good representation of a good Ohio dad. Yeah. Good Ohio dad. Coaching everything. Let's go, AJ.

Eating dinner with Uncle Waxy. Going over to the chop house, throwing the guns. We appreciate you, AJ. Let's talk about the NFL. I don't ever get old. At least for now. I mean, at some point, that drum will get blown out from us beating it so hard.

But at the current moment, anytime you think Jeff Hardy gun, it's hard not to think, oh, Chophouse Urban coming in there. But let's talk about yesterday, please. Aaron Rodgers' heart seems to be okay. Did you know his toe was hurting? Was that a real thing? Was that a fake thing? And what were your initial thoughts on how he started the game

versus how it ended and where he goes from here? I no idea about the toe i didn't know anything about it still don't uh backyard was that in the backyard whenever we told him to run two minute he kicked the maybe a root of a a tree he was growing himself that he didn't know had blossomed yet did he do that i mean that is possible maybe sirianni put the fertilizer on it so it grew much faster than he thought sirianni that son of a bitch he would come in and try to expedite the process through the manure and maybe get aaron rogers's toe bang off a two-minute drill like russell wilson in the backyard do you think it was maybe him running around the kitchen seeing if his heart's good you've been to his house i've never been there is there anything

that could potentially stub his toe how the fuck did he get hurt while being quarantined in a mansion? It's an actual question. Does anybody know anything? The internet had their jokes, obviously. Foot in the mouth, obviously. I heard your front teeth. Stubbed his toe in an interview. How did he get hurt? Do you

think that was just nothing at all? Because it appeared as if he was perfectly fine. I honestly have no idea. That'll be probably one of the first things we can ask him about tomorrow i'm sure but yeah that was all news to me i was i just wanted to watch and see if he looked tired or like extra fatigued or whatever think about 10 days hold up in your house dealing with covid like how do you respond i feel like you you look pretty good to me i was congested uh after mine for i think like maybe two weeks like i was coughing stuff up i wonder if he's going through any of that or if maybe you try to work out like at how

like how far how many days out did you finally like become active a little bit okay so i do that boxing you know i do that boxing thing i couldn't do it i couldn't do it for a few weeks i thought like i actually i'm not somebody I guess when people get overwhelmed or something maybe when their heart gets going and you have to like take that deep breath I've I've seen people have to do it I've actually never experienced it I've never had the like that moment it happened to me the first couple times after the COVID thing while I was throwing fucking bombs and I probably should have maybe just slowed down in there but I only know one speed when it's me it's either kill or be killed in that Oculus boxing ring.

But it did take me a few weeks to be able to not like. Was it your breath or was it like overall body fatigue? Well, I think it was not body fatigue. The body was good. Body was back. It was for me the congestion, the lung, the heart racing. You know what I mean? Like that was.

And I thought I was dead. I thought I was dead at first. was like oh shit this this is something that is happening to people through my study or whatever so that was a worry to me so when aaron brought that up it actually reminded me i was like oh shit yeah that might be a thing but it seems like literally everybody on earth has a much better experience with covet than me you know it just yeah i i don't under i don't understand it at all but he looked a little rusty right i mean it looked a little rusty early maybe it was it was a clunky game the whole time you know like what i know the elements definitely played a factor they would

show those shots from up top and you could see it was swirling and kind of rainy snow mix but yeah the defense i mean i i don't care like russell i know was battling through that finger thing whatever their defense theers' defense was awesome. It's impossible to get a shutout in the NFL. Okay, so what's in timeout with like 13 seconds left? Seattle was, they know it's impossible. And by impossible, I mean very, very difficult. Well, and also that defense gives up points at the end of the game there

with 13, 14 seconds left when he throws it up to DK and they bat it down. Defense is miserable, right? Like that's a big- time accomplishment. Yeah, after you chased it, you've gotten that close and then if they get points at the end, you're like, oh, like it's complete. It probably feels like you tied a game. Yes, which the Steelers and the Lions know a lot about on this particular

battle. Credit to the Lions. Yeah, what a battle. It was a cagey affair, obviously, and we'll talk about that in a second, but the defense, what is different about it, AJ, through your eyes of like an actual defensive guy? What is different about this Joe Barry offense than potentially what was going on with Petten and what happens when two guys who are their best players get added back in there does that adjust chemistry at all you think or does that help it's it's unbelievable that they played this well I feel like in the back end without Jair Alexander one of the best corners in the league so

when he comes back that's only going to help him, I think. And Devontae Campbell was a giant free agent signing. The guy's a monster. Like, he's so good. He's patrolling the middle there. He can run. The other linebackers that put in there, they can run. And they get some pressure, man. Even if they're not getting sacks, they get a lot of pressures.

They make the quarterbacks uncomfortable. And, yeah, they're just playing good team defense. Okay, Joe Barry, do a different scheme than Petten? Is it a different or is it basically the same different no it's different i don't know exactly i haven't like studied both of them i'm not exactly sure what petten runs what do you notice about joe berry's all it's just sound they're just sound on in in all phases of the good players and they know what they're doing so they can play fast like that's what they look like to me is that why the most basic defense is like seattle whenever were the Legion of Boom and some other ones?

If you have good players and everybody is just on the exact same page, you can fly around and tour it. Because the Colts did that yesterday to Trevor Lawrence like the first two quarters. It looked like there was nothing. And I didn't – I've never talked to Trevor, but I assume Trevor at one point, if you were to ask him, like, what's the difference between the NFL?

Well, the defense just seems to be fucking everywhere. Like that is probably how he felt early in that game. I think that is what the Packers potentially are starting to get into, right? Oh, yeah. And what's been their biggest issue, I feel like, in the playoffs has been stopping the run. So if they can stop the run late in the year and show they can do it when teams need to run, then we know they have a chance for sure.

Good to Coons not getting enough credit by us ever for potentially putting together a great roster? I mean, I don't know. Are people giving them credit or are they not a chance for sure. Good to Coons not getting enough credit by us ever for potentially putting together a great roster? I mean, I don't know. Are people giving him credit or are they not? We don't. He probably is happy to be out of the spotlight. Yeah. I mean, old Schultz reports tried to bring him

and Murphy back into the spotlight last week a little bit. Giorno. In a bad way? Yeah. Well, yeah. Remember? Said they were the reason that the Odell deal didn't get done. Oh, okay.

So they were trying to bury him a little bit. I mean, it was about to happen. It was hot in the kitchen for a long time for Goode. For a numerous different reasons. But that roster? Yeah. Nice job, Brian. And we got to give credit where credit is due.

Hey, we have to. I have to. I haven't done that enough. I've only dumped on Goode, kids. Yeah, me too. only dumped on him but they look fucking good aj peak too early defense you think they can withstand this no not peak too early i think i don't know they got to be feeling pretty good and when is uh jire back do we know no but i mean they said it's not season ending and he's been kind of more involved in

practice and stuff like that they still have their buy coming up so i i would assume we'll see him before the end of the season. A.J. Dillon gets going. I mean, that team. He is a big part of it, man. Oh, yeah. That run he had that was the screen or the boycott, he ran down the sideline.

Yeah. I was putting myself in the defender's shoes, and I was like, oh, no. This dude is so big. He is running so fast down the sideline, and you can tell he's looking like, all right, come on, man. Who wants a shot at this guy? He's one of those pissed off runners. Yeah. He is running so fast down the sideline. And you can tell he's looking like, all right, come on, man. Who wants a shot at this guy? He's one of those pissed off runners.

He is looking for. But he's so compact and so strong, too. It's like, how do you even get a good angle on that dude? You saw Bobby Wagner finally had to lasso him and eventually just throw him down. I think the move is, and you would know better. You have a lot more tackles than me, although I have a lot more tackles than a lot of people in the NFL. And my move was always a lot more than a lot of people in the nfl or people on that like in broadcasting or media well both that too you name it but the um my tactic was always hey i'm just going to basically put all of my weight in my upper body on their upper body and

hopefully we'll be able to time up in that and there's a couple good form tackles i have where i eat knees and shit like that i mean there's there's a lot of different styles i'm not the perfect tackling form person but if we're playing backyard football street football and fuck get you down yeah with that you just have to leave the ground right for aj because he's running violent he's a violent runner like that is a massive collision whatever you have to just hope that you can hit him clean is that what you have to hope because if not you're just getting beat up by his fucking tree trunks of legs in there yeah it depends on what your your angle is coming at him but yeah like say you're if you have an angle where you're chasing him a bit yeah you have to use everything you possibly have to try to knock

him out of balance knock him up high but if you're a little bit in front coming like downhill at him then what are you gonna do okay i can go low this dude may jump me like they do a lot or he may just knock my head clean off my body so like what am i doing here yeah so you and i had much different tackles that had to be made okay i'm baiting to the sideline every single time hey you can get me and i'm just trying to close the gap basically and utilizing the sideline as a defender you literally had to square everybody up when you go low is there something like is there a strategy to that or are you just trying to hit their knees out what are you trying to do when you go low it's funny you do practice it a

little bit but you can you can only do it by like doing it in a game because in practice you're never going to tackle low like ever you'll never. Because in practice, you're never going to tackle low, like ever. Even against a scout team, you're never going to go chop running back's legs out or anything like that. So, yeah, it's a strategy. I mean, everyone, it's got to be instinctual. You're always trying to grab, too, as you go low to try to wrap up the legs if you can. But sometimes it's just put your forearm down and try to take him down low

and hopefully be a good speed bump and he trips over top of you. Yeah, and the team will come and help you. Connor, you were going to go against aj dylan in oklahoma this past offseason what was your strategy going to be well pat if you recall the film that i released uh he was running down the sideline similar to that play and you know you don't want to go low like you guys are saying so you attack the body you go a little higher you might want this is 12 year old aj dylan this is 12 year old ajold A.J. Dillon? This is 12-year-old A.J. Dillon. I think it still translates if you were to just multiply the years by two, basically. You can still do the same exact thing. What you do

is you go up high, because if you go too low, he's going to run you over. But if you go up high, you at least knock him off balance, maybe get him to step out of bounds real quick, which, unfortunately, the Seahawks couldn't do. If they do need my help going forward, I will reach out and let them know. What, are you going to do a tackling clinic for the Seahawks?

I could do a clinic. I could even just break down a little film, maybe explain, hey, look, there's a big body here. You can't just throw yourself at him. You've got to strategically place your helmet in your forearms when you're going after this guy. Hey, going forward, as people continue to struggle to tackle A.J. Dillon, which is going to happen, it seems like,

especially as he becomes more and more of a part of the offense here. And Aaron Jones is not out. You putting out a guide on how to tackle A.J. Dillon each week would be classic because when you were 20 and he was 12 and you guys were somehow playing against each other in a high school football league, you did have a tackle against him a message sending hit pat let's come on let's at least get it right if we're going to talk about it and you know he even remembered that but i want to do that to ty i don't want to give the packers any

disadvantage and try and help the opposing team you know tackle aj dylan because nobody's going to be able to do it i mean if you can tackle aj dylan you're an unbelievable football player unbelievable football player at any state at. At any state. At any point in your life, if you got A.J. Dillon on the ground, you should be in the NFL. Alright, let's move along. Another guy. What if you attacked him in a parking line and he tripped over you? That's in between the lines, A.J. In between the whistles, too.

Okay, good. God damn it. But I don't think anybody should be going after A.J. Dillon in a parking lot. I think A.J. Dillon probably fucked you up in a parking lot. Maybe not A.J. Hawk. Yeah, he not. I think A.J. Dillon probably would fuck you up in the parking lot. Yeah, no way. I mean, maybe not A.J. Hawk. I don't know. Yeah, he would. I'm not going anywhere.

Believe me, watching this guy run, it scares me thinking of trying to tackle him. And he's only getting more confident, it feels like. Remember, Aaron had glowing praise about him

as a teammate and understanding and catching the ball better and everything like that. Good for A.J. Dillon. Good for the Packers to get another weapon in the backfield.

You're going to need that as you go forward. A weapon in the backfield that wasn't used nearly as much as a lot of the fans thought potentially should have been used. And I don't know if you saw this video or not. I'm going to let it run here for both of us, AJ, because the Steelers-Lions game was not just a tie of a team that has a deep history of success versus a team that has a deep history of failure. So maybe you would think that that team with the deep history of success now all of a sudden sucks because they tied against a terrible team. But it was without Ben, who we hope, by the way, will survive.

And Jesus, hope everybody will be okay. But that game was ugly. But listen to a breakdown of Matt Canada's offense by at E. Yinzer, A.J. Hawk. So, down there on the goal line, he threw the ball twice. This is Matt Canada. This is Matt Canada when you got nauseous. Okay, look at the face on this guy. You got nauseous and you got Rudolph throwing in the fucking court.

I'm serious. Third down, now he's going to throw again. There's a lot of questionable decisions made. Do you feel that, you know, when fans seem to point out the obvious, and you have been there, done that, Ian Yenzer speaking, not just for himself, by the way, that's got hundreds and hundreds of thousands of views around Pittsburgh because everybody in Pittsburgh was like, no shit.

He is literally speaking for all of us. Why aren't you just handing the ball to Najee? And then when Jordan Love, a quarterback, why are we you just handing the ball to Najee? And then when Jordan Love at quarterback, why are we not just handing the ball to AJ? Why do you think some offensive coordinators get off of that when the game has always been if you can run the rock, you can win games? Do you just think it's a strategy thing, an ego thing? What do you think happens in there sometimes?

I mean, I don't know exactly what you could be thinking other than it's fun to score points by throwing the ball. Do offensive coordinators feel like, hey, I need need to make it fancy i need to make it look good so they do talk about me on tv and so i do get elevated to these positions and i may be come ahead coach someday oh of course yeah and that's what e injure was saying this is my was that a phone or an ipad that thing was gigantic. Well, we've seen some other videos where he's potentially holding an iPad, the original version of an iPad.

I mean, he is... He's pretty crafty, too. He is pretty crafty. What does that mean? He knows he is an ass. He can control the son of a bitch pretty well. He knows he's an ass. He's pretty technologically talented,

from what I've been told. By the way, I think he does know that he's being recorded now, and then that's why he was, as he's being recorded, I think he forgets he's on camera and resorts back to him every single Sunday. But he's not the only one. Like all of Pittsburgh feels that, has felt that. Why do they do it, Tony? What do you think it is?

Why do the Steelers, which a lot of local reporters said this, including you, you were saying this, banging this drum, so you're kind of taking a shit on Tomlin, I guess, without meaning to do so. You thought the Steelers were going to lose to the Lions with Ben Roethlisberger. Why does it happen? Not just to the Steelers, but to a lot of teams I watch. I have no idea.

They play down to their opponent every season. Listen, if you think the Steelers should win that week, they're not going to. If you don't think they should win, they're going to win that game. I don't know why. And it's not always been like that. It's just been like the last few years. Like when Ben was in his prime, that didn't happen. They were blowing fucking teams out.

But now, the last three or four years, for some reason, this is what happened. Hey, but have you always had that kind of attitude towards the Steelers? They've been so good for so long, though. No, it's just been the last few years. It has not been all. Like, if this was 0-8 Lions versus Steelers six years ago, when Ben was leading the league in passing and everything was great, I would have said this is going to be a fucking blowout.

But for some reason, the last few years, I don't know if it's because – I honestly don't know why. Yeah, AJ, why does it happen? Why do teams show up and not show up? i guess if you could figure this out you'd be the goldman standard of figuring out brains and psychology but like the cowboys they lose to the denver broncos okay who just got i mean they just got absolutely crushed but the denver broncos embarrassed the cowboys in dallas and dac prescott's first game back in some time or whatever.

And then all of a sudden a week later, they just shit on the Atlanta Falcons. All over. Dan Quinn gets a game ball afterwards because that was the team he obviously got fired from. Diggs gets another pick. Dak Prescott is slinging the run. Why does it happen, AJ? Can you please make it make sense?

AJ Hawk, Super Bowl champion, all-time leading tackler for the Green in the road why does it happen aj what can you please make it make sense aj hawk super bowl champion all-time leading tackler for the green bay packers why and i can't i have no idea because i'm i'm literally on the sidelines whenever i'm watching our teams and i'm like what the fuck is going just like everybody else you know just like okay i hope i go out there and punt the ball well today but also what the fuck is going on with this team why does it happen aj, AJ, you think? Coaches have been trying to figure this out forever. I'm sure you've heard coaches talk and say, I don't really know. It's tough. Sometimes I feel like we have the best week ever practicing,

and then we come out and we play like garbage, or we have a terrible week of practice, and then all of a sudden we dominate somebody. Chuck, I think I said that on the show maybe even last week. It's something that you can't – all I would say is they're human beings, and there's a lot of them out there. There's a lot of moving parts. They all have a lot of responsibilities on the field, off the field

and hey, I don't know. There's certain things that can bring a team together, make them focus, get them all together and then sometimes games just feel weird. Even coaches, I don't know what it was about. We just never really got into a rhythm, offense or defense. I've been a part of some great

We ready We I don't know what was about it. We just never really got into a rhythm, offense or defense. I've been a part of some great, We ready. We ready. Looking around the locker room, it's like, oh, my God. All right, we are about to fucking pummel this team. We are. Everybody looks confident. Everybody seems to know what the fuck they're doing.

It seems like the coaches feel good. And I'm like, ah, today's going to be a fucking fun one. Let's go out there. And then all of a sudden it's like, boom, turnover first. We're down 14. What the hell happened? Wow, we were just five minutes ago having the time of our lives. Now we're down 10 zip.

And then there's some games where coaches are shitting their pants and players don't know what the hell's going on. They're asking questions even like leading up to the introductions, like, hey, on this, what am I doing? And then all of a sudden you go out and win. It's like, why? And that's why I guess that's gambling, baby. Silver lining Saturday night, Ben goes out. I'm like, all right, at least the team isn't going to sleepwalk through tomorrow

because they know they have to play well because Mason's quarterback, and that didn't happen. Well, defense, you know, a couple different situations. But you talk about teams laying eggs especially veteran teams aj hey the suckaneers fucked the goddamn super boost yesterday and i apologize for so many profanities uh profusely well who do you think they stuck what happened aj how does this happen who do you blame more the offense or the defense for the Bucs? Well, the offense seemed to do the same thing for the entire game.

And I thought halftime would at least give them a little bit of a, oh, hey, remember as we broke down and self-scouted during the bye week, we learned that if this is happening, we'll just start doing this. And they're out. Gronk and AB, I get it. And Vito Vega now has a bruised bone. But coming out of the bye, I didn't expect the veteran-led

Buccaneers. And maybe I'm a little bit more passionate about this because the Superboost was supposed to hit yesterday. Okay, Superboost was supposed to hit. And don't look now. I've hit my last seven bets in my Fandula. Okay, here we go. Don't look now. Don't look now. I am Superboosting a bet for tonight because I feel like I'm in the middle of something. Odell here we go. Don't look now. Don't look now. I am super boosting a bet for tonight because

I feel like I'm in the middle of something. Odell Beckham Jr. scored touchdown tonight. Feel very good about it. Sean McVay is going to make himself look very intelligent. Matthew Stafford also, go to him. Robert Woods is out. I think that's going to get boosted. I feel very good about where I'm at gambling

right now. Now, I lost. Hey, by the way, you should feel good, too. Seven and five. Hey. Okay. Is that real? Yeah, you won seven and five. I won five.

I said, you beat me this weekend. Damn it. It's not over. It's not over. Double dip today. I guess I could get a twofer, couldn't I? That's right. I guess I could get a twofer.

Hell yeah. Odell Beckham Jr. scored tight. Yep. Rams to cover three and a half. What? That's two for – are we tied all of a sudden? Who are you taking? Wait, what were your two?

What are you doing? No, the two would be – wouldn't it – would be the Rams to win in cover. Wouldn't that give me two? Well, yeah. If you wanted to. What was your Odell Beckham one you threw in there? No, that wouldn't be two if you want rams winning cover if you want niners to win and cover or if you want rams to win by one to three and then niners plus three and a half that would be a twofer yeah that'd be incredible gambling i did that just a couple weeks ago remember you've been

you're still talking about it. I was able to do that. I don't want that, no. What do you want? I want the Rams. Oh, come on. You stink. Come on.

I mean, wouldn't this, okay, with all the trends that are going on, what if the Niners did come out and they beat them by 10? Okay, so you want to bet on that? I'll order their spread. We'll give you a plus two if you hit it. Man, I don't know. Honestly, I might be talking myself into it right now.

Okay, hey, let's go ahead and do it. You got a big brain. You're seven and five on the weekend. Big old hawk brain. Come on. Nah, we'll see.

We don't need to make a choice right now. All right. Come on. You definitely need to go first, though. Because I do need a twofer. You know what I mean?

I do need a twofer out there. But I think I'm boosting OBJ to score a touchdown just because it feels like this is something McVay would. Just like Cam Newton got a touchdown. You know, big sign, big acquisition. Boost that thing up

to make yourselves feel incredibly smart. Odell Beckham, hey, we love you. We like you. Robert Woods towards ACL. We are incredibly bummed about that. Hope he's okay. We got a guy, though, here. It just feels like that's a natural. Could be wrong, but I have been hot. The Succoneers, though, fucked up a super boost. And I did not expect.

Should we worry about them? Should we worry about them, AJ? I have a hard time making myself worry about them, but I don't know. Like, I can't tell with anybody right now. It just feels weird. But, no, right now, if I had to pick, yes, I would still put the Bucs in that handful of teams that can win it all. But, yeah, I don't feel 100% confident about that.

Both teams coming out of a bye week. I assume that the veteran-led Super Bowl champion team would handle it better. The next Monday night, they're against the Giants, I believe. We're going to learn a lot. You know, another team that is back, it feels like, it might have got the monkey off our back. As a fork or scissors were being taken off of the field. The Kansas City Chiefs looked like the Kansas City Chiefs last night. I mean, Travis Kelsey actually said, I got my swagger.

He actually said he's got his swagger back. They feel like they're the team they once were. Now, did the Raiders stink? And did the Chiefs defense get opportunistic on some turnovers? Of course. But what was happening on the offensive side, check downs to running backs, Tyreek Hill getting loose on some quick ones, Travis Kelsey literally just turning around in the middle of a play,

getting a ball and making 15, 20-yard gains, that is what the Chiefs that were used to watching. Patrick Mahomes showed up looking like a half a billion dollars over there in the Chiefs offense. I think lived up to the hype finally. He is now the league tied for his third career game with 400 passing yards and five touchdowns. Has tied Peyton, Dan, and Joe Montagna,

who obviously took a football and saved a kidnapping incident. That's via ESPN stats and info. Let's assume he's going to do it again and be the outright leader, but they're all the way back, it feels like, AJ. Wait, the Montana saving his granddaughter is in the ESPN stats? No, no, I'm just telling you, whenever you hear Montana's name, let's fucking remember. This guy was a hell of a player.

I know he rocks those Skechers, but also at one particular time in his life, he punched through a glass case to grab the catch ball that is in his house, took it out, blew it up himself, put a little bit more air back in it, and threw and hit a kidnapper right in the beak and caught his grandbaby. Yep, slid down the banister. Yeah. So Patrick Mahomes tied him Yep, slid down the banister. Yeah. So Patrick Mahomes tied him, but it seems like he's back. Joining us now, just like he does every single Monday,

big old brain, nine-year NFL vet, host of the Man to Man podcast, and blogger for Pro Football Focus. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Hey! What's up, fellas? What's up? Hey, we were just talking about this. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. D-Bud! What's up, fellas? What's up?

Hey, we were just talking about this. Not Joe Montana saving his grandbaby. We can get into that later, but the Chiefs look to be back, D-Bud. I haven't looked at the film. I don't know if you have. How do you think that is going to go? Do you think this is sustainable, and is this the team we're going to see for the rest of the season?

I mean, definitely this is sustainable. They're back. I mean, they're back. Patrick Mahomes is back. He was taking what the defense is giving to him. He was doing everything that everyone was saying from the outside. Take what the defense is giving to you. He did throw up, I was a little concerned with that ball he threw up to 31.

He ended up catching it obviously, but those are the type of plays that you kind of want to eliminate with Mahomes. But he did a great job all night, threw the ball 50 times, 400 yards. He was feeling the rush and not really watching it. So this team, I mean, AFC's still wide open in my opinion. They can definitely get hot and represent that side in the Super Bowl. Mason Rudolph threw the ball 50 times yesterday, as did Patrick Mahomes, obviously.

Go ahead, AJ. AD, but how good do you think the Cowboys are? I mean, they're a damn good football team. All three phases, man. Obviously, everybody knows what Dak is on that offense. He can get Gallup back. He's another weapon for them. Kellen Moore keeps everybody involved in that offense, everybody happy.

On the defensive side, you probably have the defensive rookie of the year with Michael Parsons flying around. You're missing your best pass rusher with D-Law, so when he gets back, he'll add another element. Diggs got another pick. He's up to eight. I mean, this team is good enough and built, you know, to win it all. That NFC side is stacked.

You got Green Bay. You got, you know, the Bucs still. You got the Rams. But that Cowboys team, I mean, they look damn good. Hey, quick thing on Diggs. I know the ball got the Rams. But that Cowboys team, I mean, they look damn good. Hey, quick thing on Diggs. I know the ball is the program. The ball, the ball, the ball. And Diggs has eight picks, which is incredible.

When you're in a secondary, does he give up as much as everybody says? Does he give up as many yards? And is he a potential, you know, weakness to that defense going forward, although he does create massive amounts of turnovers coming from a man who played uh safety corner and nickel in the secondary do you just know that that's potentially on your team and it's a it's a weapon or how do you think the cowboys treat that uh well gone with respect is uh terrell buckley one of the great corners he was one of those guys who he may give up something but but he's going to make you pay at times too. And that's kind of what Diggs is, kind of death O'Neill type.

So you can't call him a weakness because at any point he can turn that ball over and give your offense, give that powerful offense another possession, which are precious in this league. So you definitely can't call him a weakness. But he does have to tighten up some things. Still a young corner, but his ball skills, I mean, not even just talking about DBs, receivers, anybody, his ball skills are up there, top elite tier.

So I love watching the kid play. Everybody's going to give up plays in the NFL. Everybody, every corner out there is going to give up plays, is going to give up touchdowns. So I would much rather have one on my team that I know at times is going to turn that thing over. He was running full speed and then behind his head, he caught that. I mean, that was absurd. I don't know who Matt was throwing that to. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of questions about

the Falcons, what they are. And I guess the Cowboys still have that question. And before the boys have their, man, we love when D-Bus. Hey, blogger now, you've been blogging pretty consistently now. Hey, we're putting some words, putting some words together over there at Pro Football Focus, D-Bud. Hey, doing it, man. Who knows, man? It might be, nah, that'll probably be the end of my blogging career. But it's fun, though. No!

It's fun. No, let's talk about this Packers defense because, obviously, Russell Wilson coming back, pulling the pin out of his finger. It was supposed to take him 19 weeks to heal, but he worked so hard because he's a fucking Wolverine, is what Ian Rappaport says. He has an entire body team, including a finger injury team that he went to work with, and he got back earlier than anybody could have ever expected. He had to go into Green Bay in tough weather against that defense. Is that more

Packers D making that happen or Russell Wilson rustiness? And what are your expectations for that Packers defense? I think it's a combination of both. I definitely don't think he was ready. I know he was training for 19 hours a day and got out there three weeks. He was

supposed to be out six to eight. I don't think he was. What's that? So four, five hours of sleep? Yeah. Five hours of sleep. I think he was rehabbing. Oh, I thought it was 19 weeks. I misread that.

I didn't see 19 hours a day. Oh, yeah. A whole lot of time for parenting in there. So, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. A lot of Hall of Famers say, hey, sorry I missed most of your life. But I don't want to take anything away from that because there's no excuses, no explanations when you're out there playing ball. You got to take that field.

This Packers team, this Packers defense, man, they've been playing lights out. Even when A-Rod was out, they gave him a chance to win. The Chiefs, the Cardinals, and now up against Russ, they've been playing lights out for these last few weeks. I love what they got going on the secondary, the pass rush, the linebackers, Campbells. He's playing sideline to sideline. I love this Packers defense, man. I mean, that NFC side is stacked, man.

I don't know who I would pick from that side right now. Well, and Cardinals, you know, Colt McCoy had a good run. That might be over. Kyler Murray comes back. We'll be excited to see with DeAndre Hopkins. But if you look at the NFC, Packers, Bucks, Cards, and Cowboys all cooking. Then the Rams add OBJ.

They're sitting at 7-2. The NFC South, kind of ugly right now. And the NFC North, also ugly. So it is a top heavy bunch in the NFC. And the AFC is just one massive question mark. Go ahead, Ty. D-Bot, you were one in the NFC and the AFC is just one massive question mark. Go ahead, Ty.

D-Bot, you were one of the loudest and earliest guys on the Justin Herbert train. What the hell is going on with the Chargers? Are they dead? Herbert's kind of looked like he stunk since the bye week, and their defense stinks too. Relax, relax. No, they don't. Herbert played lights out last week.

He did stink it up this week. Squeaking by the Eagles. Hey, the Eagles just got it. Hey, the Eagles are all right. All right. But, yeah, a little suspect there. A little suspect with the Chargers. You got a first-year head coach.

Defense kind of stinks. I think his longest throw yesterday was 19 yards. So, I don't know how you get that dialed up for Justin Herbert. I think he'll be all right. Now, AFC West, Chiefs, they look like they're in the driver's seat, obviously, but I think Chargers. I think they'll pick it up and be all right. But my team is stinking right now, man.

I'm down in the dumps about that. I am also a Chargers fan, D-Butt. I enjoy the Chargers. I enjoy Justin Herbert. You see Cam Newton on that sideline of the Panthers, and everybody's in there. Hey, everybody on three. Everybody on me.

Let's go ahead and do our hands. We're going to go ahead and win this game. Give me the ball, and we'll go in. All right? Justin Herbert's an introvert, right? Like, that is his. Oh, yeah. That is his.

Who is the person, I think, to turn them maybe back into the team that they were at the beginning of the season? Is it him? Does he have to go out of his comfort zone? Is it Staley? What do you think? Because they can't run into the same problem they had last year, which was, hey, our team is incredible. We should win games. Although it's Staley's first year, there feels

like there's a lot of potential in that team. And for whatever reason, they just can't get it going right now. I mean, it's going to be on Staley. Staley's got to steer that ship, obviously, as a quarterback. I think the best thing a quarterback can do, whoever that quarterback is, just be yourself. You know, everybody's not going to be, you know, the outspoken. Everybody's not going to be, you know, Mr. Unliving in the huddle or Tom Brady in the huddle or these different guys. You just got to be Justin Herbert. He's got to start playing better.

The whole team does. Defensively, they got to stop the run. And Herbert's got to start making the plays that we got so accustomed to him making. But I think they'll be all right. I love Staley. He's a rookie head coach, and he's one of the brightest minds out there. So I think they'll be all right long term. This year has just been kind of crazy up and down for everybody,

not making any excuses, but I think they'll be all right. Well, you know, Staley actually was a quarterback. That's right. Who's also a defensive coordinator. What? Yeah, so he knows defenses, but he sees the game through the eyes of a quarterback. It's the best of both worlds there.

Learn something new. Go ahead, AJ. They said that 7,000 times when he was hired. Go ahead, AJ. So how about the Browns and Baker? What about Stefanski? I feel like people are jumping off his bandwagon. Before they said this is the perfect match and all this stuff.

Now people are trying to say that he doesn't know what he's doing. Yeah, no adjustments. I mean, but it's a lot of problems. Baker, I'm not going to say he stinks. He doesn't stink. He's all right. He's an above average quarterback. I mean, he came out last week, had an outstanding performance,

had 14 completions, highest grade on PFF. You know, but he had a lot of energy, a lot of anger, you know, but that shit don't last at the quarterback position, man. It's the cerebral ones. It's the guys who can pick apart defenses. And you guys talked about Stefanski. One thing that kind of came to my mind, Will Blackman brought it up to me. The system that he played in the college,

that kind of air raid type offense that they're playing out in collar, I think that may be more suited for Baker to ever reach that elite status. I think if he's in this type of system with Stefanski, it's play action, run first, have boo, intermediate pass game. I think he's kind of hit the ceiling on where Baker's going to be. But the Browns are stuck. They're going to win too many games to draft high, so they're going to have to pay him big money. So they've got to figure something out with Baker. Maybe that's moving on from

Stefanski. It's overreaction Monday. I'm not saying fire him just yet, but he might have to change some things up. I'm not going to dame you guys. I mean, you were close there. That's your guy. Can you guys relax? You guys

are getting on my tone. You guys have been getting on my tone. What? You guys have been killing Dane on Twitter. Those were the toxic hammered Don Cowboys. That was not a Dane. You got to remember, they do not represent the feelings of their employer or their coworkers. Quick question about Baker.

He hands the ball off with two hands. Do you see that? Do you ever – because I think it's like a potential. He has a very interesting way of handing the ball off with two hands. Do you see that? Do you ever – because I think it's like a potential. He has a very interesting way of handing the ball off. I don't think I've ever – it's like a two-handed hand. It's very smooth. It's kind of – something about – that's one thing he does do a very, very good job.

It may sound weird, but as a defender, it's something you watch on film. Like his handoffs, like when he hands it off and kind of fakes his boot action, it is a good action. He does do, you know, a little magic with that ball back there. So that is one of, I would say, you can check that box for elite for Baker. That's what I want in my quarterback, good handoffs. Well, in Stefanski's system with Chubb, Hunt, who are both out now, Dearness Johnson still went for a Honda.

Hey, let's go. Let's go. Let's go, pal. But on the other side was the Patriots, D-Butt. And I assume Connor's going to have a question for you there. Yeah, D-Butt, you were just saying cerebral, alpha male, pick-apart defense quarterbacks. Is Mac Jones like the best quarterback you've ever seen in your entire life? Is everything okay?

Is everything all right? What the hell? Yeah, I just had to put my Patriots helmet back there real quick. Oh, come on. Sorry, we just had to get that situated. But Mac, Mac. Oh, that's fine. I mean, Mac.

Oh, this guy. We can't even see your Patriots helmet. We can't even see your Patriots helmet because the thing. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. Put it on. He hasn't worn it yet. Oh.

But Mac is a dude, man. Mack is a dude. He went to the perfect spot, too. Josh McDaniels, obviously. It's everything. You always see the next Tom Brady, see the next this. I see a lot of people saying he should have went second or third in the draft now. I don't think we would have saw this Mack Jones if he ended up with the Jets.

But McDaniels, Belichick, they've done a great job with him. And they're getting hot at the right time. The defense is obviously playing great. And more important than anything, Matt knows where to go with the ball. And now it's going to be about just him putting it there. And he dropped some dimes yesterday, like into a tight window. So I'm thoroughly impressed with the Rook. Throwing the spots.

Go ahead, AJ. Hey, what about the Saints roughing the passer call? I don't know if you talked about it earlier in the show or not, Pat. I would imagine that one upset you a bit. What about you, D-Bud? Terrible. Terrible. I mean, those are game-changing calls.

I feel like every week, every game, we're watching it and we're talking about the refs. I mean, something's got to be done with that. Even if they went and reviewed all the passing appearances last year, maybe they go and review the roughing the passers, you know, next year, this year. But, I mean, it's terrible. And that really – it cost the Saints the ball game, really. Titans keep finding ways to win.

But that was some bullshit right there. The Titans, you think, without Derrick Henry, going to continue to go? I mean, it's amazing what they've been able to accomplish. I mean, they're going. They're going. They're well coached. They've been playing better on the defense than a lot of people give them credit for. And they're finishing games.

It's been ugly. It's not pretty. If you look at the stat sheet in the box, it doesn't look great. But they're getting it done with some guys sometimes that I'd never even heard of getting their hands on a rock. So you can't argue with wins in production. So they're doing it right now. Can they make a title run? I don't think so.

Oh! Oh! I don't think. I'm just being honest. Not without 2-2 back there. Come on, man. We got to be realistic here. I know it's overreaction Monday, but we got to be.

Come on, now. Yeah, they're not supposed to be realistic. Here's another unrealistic thing. Jonathan Taylor might be the best football player to ever play fucking football. This dude is an absolute stud. And the Titans are going to have to run into that going forward. I mean, granted, they already lost to him twice. But in the AFC South, I mean, the Colts are getting very hot,

just like the Patriots are getting very hot. The AFC, I think water is potentially starting to find its level and teams are going to maybe separate. But that Jonathan Taylor dude, un-fucking-believable, D-Butt. I don't understand why we – I feel like we stopped giving him the ball. Every fucking game. Why? He had a damn near 100 yards in the first quarter.

You look at the box, the score after, and it's, what, 120 or something like that. So, I mean, I don't understand that. We jumped out to a 17-0 lead, and we won the game, which is a great thing. But we've got to get that killer instinct in Indy, man. We've got to put foot on next when we jump up. Jumped up 14-0 on the Titans and let them come back and win late. So that could be a problem that careers had later on. But they are 5-5, and they are in the hunt.

Carson Wentz is playing good football, and the defense is playing well as well. So, you know, he's a little better. He lumbers the fuck around, dude. He had a third and seven down the sideline. He fucking threw it, sacrificed his body to the other team. Michael Pittman fucking boom, grab. It was Gordon. He Carson winced.

It's exciting. Oh, it is electrifying. We just got to hope we don't get any more of this shit. Go ahead, Diggs. D-Bud, speaking of the Titans, speaking of the Cowboys, their defenses were horrendous last year. They're much better this year. They both have new

coordinators. Is it scheme? Is it players? Is it effort? Is it tackling? How does the defense improve that much over one year? I know, starting in Dallas, I know for sure, coordinator. Mike Nolan, he did a horrible job last year. He kind of got hired out of nowhere. McCarthy called one of his buddies and gave him, and it was just terrible.

You watch the film, you can tell guys just didn't know what the hell was going on, even in week eight, week nine. So from jump, Quinn came in and had these guys on the same page. He's had a lot of moving parts on the defense. We talked about missing Lawrence, who's their highest paid pass rusher. He's been out most of the year, and they're still playing very good ball. So them, how they run to the ball, how they tackle, that's all scheme, coaching, effort, players, all of the above. And then Tennessee, I honestly don't – it doesn't really make sense

that they're playing – I mean, you sign Dupree and free agency. Landry is playing out of his mind. Simmons is playing out of his mind. I just think the guy's just playing better. The guy, Janoris Jenkins, came over, so maybe his personnel. I think Braves has done a great job coaching as well. Autry came over too from the Colts. Autry, yeah.

So they got some personnel. And they've always played hard, so I can't put it on there. I would just say better personnel. They were terrible in third down last year, much better this year. Hey, that's the money down, by the way, on the defense side. Get off the field. Get off the fucking field. Some people only have like 17 plays and a half,

like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, when Taylor Heineke leads a 19-play 10-minute. 10 minutes. That's crazy. Insane. That's how it ended. That's how the game ended was like Taylor Heineke just saying, hey, listen, I'm going to go ahead and fucking juju

on the beat. They just did that. Maybe they'll be able to figure out. Maybe not. I know next week we'll get a chance to chat with you. Tampa definitely figured out. Zero concern with Tampa. Zero? I'm way more concerned with the Rams than I am with Tampa.

What do you got tonight? I do have the Rams tonight. I'm not concerned tonight, but it is definitely a fade deep bus season. But I do have the Rams tonight. Was it three and a half? Yeah. Taking the Rams and beating them in cover. Jimmy G, he stinks this year.

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Shout out to you. Let's get back to the show. All right, let's go to some overreactions from around the internet. I wonder how many of them will be similar to the... Oh, no me. Diggs, every single Monday, you get an opportunity to lose your mind on the internet. I wonder how many of them will be similar to the Oh, no me. Diggs, every single Monday you get an opportunity

to lose your mind on the internet when you utilize the hashtag PMSOverReactionMonday. You will not be judged. You were actually expected to do so. Let it all out in one tweet and we'll be able to read them and laugh and move on together

as a family here at Pat McAfee's show. Per the usual, it ended up trending. Shout out to all you kids. Shout out. Ty Schmidt went through all of them. Ty Schmidt found some great ones and I can't wait to read through them. Once again, I've not seen any of these.

Neither has AJ. Let's get to it. Woody at Woody Kentucky 859. Old Woody K dying there. Hashtag PMS overreaction Monday. Mac Jones' Patriot legacy is going to be better than Tom Brady's. Wow. This might be a burner for Boston Connor,

but he is much better than Tom was at this age. That is why people are saying this, AJ Hawk. I mean, yeah, it's a bit of an overreaction, no question, with only having this little bit to see of Mac, but I don't know what there is to dislike about Mac right now. Like, what are any knocks people have on him? Connor, what are people saying are bad about Mack Jones? He cares too much. He works too hard. He likes

winning more than anyone else. I mean, there's some negative things for sure. And that's no bull. That's no bull. Alright, let's bounce around to the internet a little bit more. Classic Pack, C1 Asic Pack, and this one puts the class in Classic Pack and the ass in Asic Pack. Hashtag PMS overreaction Monday. We got Rod the class in classic PAC and the ass in ASICPAC.

Hashtag PMS overreaction Monday. We got Rodgers back in the building and the defense playing like the 85 Bears. Packers are going to win the Super Bowl. Go, PAC, go. Ty, you don't see any disagreements here? No. I mean, they might be better than the 85 Bears. That would be the only thing that I would have to say.

To be honest, I know the 85 Bears get talked about a lot. I wasn't even thought of, or in my father's nutsack at the point, via whoever made up that quote two weeks ago, somebody said. First time ever. I have never. Helwani. Helwani gave that to somebody. Yeah.

That dirtbag. Hey, it's good respect, though. At least Helwani's trying to give somebody. But honestly, I wasn't. So I've never seen them. Only the highlights. I've seen them dance and everything like that. If this Packers defense can maintain, though,

there's no reason why they can't, right? There's no reason why they can't go on a go, AJ. They've been to the NFC Championship game two years in a row. Of course, it's not an overreaction to say that. Like, is the defense good enough to put them over the hump in the playoffs and get to the Super Bowl? Yeah, I mean, it looks like it now, but week to week, how do you predict anything in the NFL?

Isn't it crazy how good that team is doing? They were still drafting for the future. Interesting. Which is why it's hard to say, hey, good, great work on the roster build. Yeah, here we go. But acknowledge it and go for it in the moment. And I guess they have this. They have this year.

Yeah. A.J. Dillon. What? Yeah. Sertain. No, no. Corner. Patrick.

No, no. Who's the corner? Stokes. Yeah, Stokes. Yeah. Rasul Douglas. Yeah. Another guy they picked up this year. Whitney Merciless coming in, making a play. He got hurt, I guess, his bicep.

Who knows how he'll do. But people have, Randall Cobb is making plays. Yep. Here we go, Goot. Here we go. That's my goodie. Let's go win this thing. Maybe the Pack go on a run.

That'd be a lot of fun, especially for Tuesday conversations. By the way, I believe that'll be happening tomorrow. Can't wait to find out what the hell happened to his toe. What happened to his toe? Is his house too big? What? I mean, what the fuck happened to his toe, AJ? Honestly, what could it have been?

Was his shoes too small? Was his slippers too tight? Did he run into a stool? How could he have hurt his toe in that quarantine? Was he trying too hard, working too much? These are all good questions for tomorrow, I think. He's watching too much film. His toe started to hurt.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why. He's watching too much film. His toe started to hurt. That was probably the case. Seems like it didn't slow him down at all, but I remember going, oh, what the hell? Because I was worried about his heart just like everybody else because of COVID and what

has happened in the past. They seem to be past that. We'll'll ask them tomorrow let's go to the internet yet again at samurai medic hey this is the medic you need oh yeah whenever you're in the middle of potential war whatever you find yourself in one of those dungeons and dragons situations or at uh i saw uh robbie fox was at one of those uh night parties oh medieval times at one of those night parties. Oh, medieval times. Yeah, one of those things. This is the medic that you need whenever you're in those situations. At Samurai Medic, Randy Benson says, for somebody who's supposed to be a defensive guru,

Brandon Staley's defense is trash. Randy Benson from the top rope seems to be a Chargers fan. What the hell is going on with the Chargers? And not just the Chargers defense, by the way. Brandon Staley, great defense coordinator. The Jets defense also stinks. Two defense coordinators getting promoted to head coaching roles, and both the defenses stink. Is that because they stopped coaching defense, you think?

They have to go more hands off? I mean, it's possible. They're not the ones. I know what Ulbrich is the D coordinator for the Jets, who I think is an awesome coach, actually. Very good guy, good coach. But I don't know. It's impossible to tell why.

It could be one play. Think about it. When we're saying, oh, what could cause a team to come out and be flat? Let's say first play, first series, quarterback throws up a bad ball, receiver makes a great play, dunks on the dude, mosses him, goes and scores, but you're playing bad. That instantly, even if you were flat, that one dude making that one play can flip everything. Yeah, and that can happen, obviously, for a defense, too. I remember we went

down and played the Saints in the Superdome, brother, Superdome. Down there, it was a primetime game. I think it was literally the first play, strip sack of Curtis Painter after a touchback. So they got the ball in the 27-zip, and then just one thing can go, and hopefully maybe the Jets and the Chargers will be able to get that play that will maybe reignite a little bit of success on the defensive side. Not for the Jets, obviously. They seem to stink. They blow.

But the Chargers, I don't understand what the hell is going on over there. And neither does the Samurai Medic. Let's take another trip around. Ty, good selections thus far, by the way. Here comes Skinny Stooge, Stevie. Hey, Skinny Stooge. Is this Foxy's burner? Skinny Stooge doesn't even know how lucky he is to be able to eat everything

and not put on any weight, even though he might be a bad body having son of a bitch. Us spark plug built sons of bitches hate people that are just skinny stooges because we have a couple in the office and these dudes can eat whatever. Have McDonald's at 10 a.m. Have cheeseburgers, Big Mac, McChickens, quarter pounders, apple pies, cookies, the whole thing, McFlurries. And they don't ever gain any weight. Doesn't that give you gout, Foxy?

No. No, skinny stooges don't get that. Yeah, it feels like the King's disease only happens with people that can't be skinny stooges for whatever the case. Hashtag PMS overreaction Monday. You're not the only one that gets gout, Zito. Hashtag PMS overreaction Monday, although you are one of the faces of battling gout. I was on Gout Magazine 2020 this year. We appreciate your service.

We appreciate your service, Zito. What if you saw Zito's face and you were in a doctor's office in the waiting room and there was a magazine about gout and Zito just smiled on the cover and never told us? I would die. And by the way, that might be happening. We have no idea about Zito. A guy might be a billionaire who's going to bring Zito. We do. He's a guy.

Guy might be a billionaire who's going to bring Don Gott to be his greatest feat. The Kansas City Chiefs are all the way back. The world is yours. The gout world is yours. The Kansas City Chiefs are all the way back. Fake punt. Tommy Townsend threw an absolute Don. Great defense.

And the offense was picking them up and putting them down. Just absolutely dog-walked the Raiders in Las Vegas. First in the division, by the way. Chiefs first, Packers, Super Bowl, whatever it's about to be. Let's go. I like the fact that Chiefs' kingdom is all the way back. I like that what they saw last night brought back a little bit of passion

for the Chiefs' fans because it did get a little toxic there, so much so that some of the Chiefs' players the you know in the comment section were like we hate this family and X Factor was representing them poorly and saying oh this guy's an asshole they're egotistical they got too confident they got too comfortable it wasn't that long ago that the Chiefs were terrible now they weren't looking as good as they had and everybody seemed to turn against them one night in Las Vegas in Sin City when Travis Kelsey seems to be all the way back. Tyron Matthews seems to be opportunistic. Tyreek Hill is outrunning people.

Checkdowns are in abundance. Patrick Mahomes all the way back. Is this what the Chiefs needed, A.J. Hawk? Yeah, I'm sure you probably heard it. I think a lot of pundits on TV are saying this felt like a Chiefs win. Patrick Mahomes throws five touchdowns. I think their defense played well, and it gives them hope

and gives them some confidence moving forward. And I like that over-action tweet because I think that was my Super Bowl prediction as well, Chiefs-Packers. Oh, yeah. I think you and Skinny Stooges are on the same page. How about Tommy Townsend taking a low snap? Beautiful ball. Beautiful ball.

That is not easy to do either. No way. All the way out on a stop route on time. A little long in the stride. I think if people were to break down. But him just transitioning perfectly. What a strike by Tommy Townsend. And I love the aggressiveness.

I like that Andy Reid and them know, hey, we're rolling right now. Let's keep this thing going. A couple people, like you said, not that many people that had jumped off the Chiefs bandwagon. But I did see a decent amount of people saying Tommy Tonson played better than Patrick Mahomes had up to that point last night. Maybe put him at quarterback. Oh, QB too. Yeah, exactly.

We'll see. Patrick Mahomes, 400 yards, five touchdowns, has three of those games, I guess, in his career. He tied Dan Marino, Peyton Manning, and the guy who saved the kidnapping with a football, Joe Montana. Hell yeah. Let's assume he'll have at least another one of those. Let's continue around the internet.

Ben Goldstein, at BenGoldstein91, says, Hashtag PMS overreaction Monday. The Seahawks need to start over. Trade Russ. Fire Pete. It's time. Wow. I know.

Is that your feeling, A.J. Hawk? Russell Wilson first game back after 19-hour training sessions for the last few weeks. Don't know how he slept. I thought sleep was a massive part of recovery. Maybe that's what they're counting into the 19 hours. He slept for 13 hours, let his body do his thing, and then for six he'd go after it and then he'd chill for five.

Maybe. I'm not 100% sure. Are you all out on the Seahawks after losing to Aaron Rodgers, 17-zip in green bet? Well, I think Russell's finger will continue to get better, but I'm definitely not all in on the Seahawks. I don't know what they're going to do with Pete, but I don't feel like Russell will be there either after this season.

Well, last offseason there was a lot of conversation. Allegedly the Bears flew to North Dakota to put in a trade offer for Russell Wilson. And Chicago was one of the cities that not Russell, but his team said, we don't want to be traded. But if he was to be traded, Chicago's a beautiful city. Yeah. Beautiful. Number two best.

It didn't happen. But then in the first week of training camp, Pete Carroll, Schneider, and Russell Wilson were all at the same podium. We like each other. That's literally what they did how much how much does losing affect that relationship and what does the future look like and can they get back in good graces with the not only a good record but their fans in an NFC West it seems to only be heating up that's going to be tough yeah it seemed like yesterday kind of was a must win which I'm guessing is why Russ came back because like you could tell he was just he was missing throws that he never

misses but also doesn't it seem like new orleans might be like this might be a long play for they're going to be very aggressive into potentially trying to get russell wilson in the offseason well there's going to be a big market for russ there's a lot of people that are allegedly wanting them will the seattle seahawks ever let him go? Will he ever want to leave like he did, or did they get over it and move forward? We shall see. I do know there is some questions, though, around Pete Carroll and his brain function, because how can he not find the challenge flag? I mean, the ref is literally saying, throw the flag, is what the ref is saying,

because Pete's going, hey, I want to challenge that. I want to challenge that. I want to challenge that. And the ref's like, that's not how it works. That is not. You have to throw the flag. And Pete Carroll's like, goddammit, how many pockets do we have in this freezing cold-ass Green Bay?

I got six jackets on. I added an extra one. My flag is in the jacket underneath this jacket. Do you want me to unzip, go in there? Or do you want me just to throw something, sir, and get the challenge out there? And he throws his flip phone maybe? I'm not sure. It's a hand warmer.

Can of mints. That's a hand warmer? It's like a USB-charged hand warmer they have, yeah. Really? I did not know that. Yeah. That's awesome. Anyways, that is not a challenge flag, and I think they still challenged us.

They did. Uh-huh. So I think there should be questions. I think it did get overturned too, right? No, that was the fumbled snap that Rodgers had where they gave possession to the offense, yeah. Yeah, I thought that was going to be a turnover, by the way. What about that interception by Kevin King?

Oh, yeah. How does that count? Well, and how does Aaron – well, I guess on the flip side, how does – I mean, Aaron clearly didn't have that ball. No. You know what I mean? Yeah. The Kevin King one, he definitely dropped it.

Definitely. Definitely hit the ground. Were they saying he already secured it? How does that work? I think. It seems like every week, if we wanted to, we could get into every call and be like, that doesn't seem like the best call. Wasn't it Tony?

I think Tony was even saying, like, I don't know why he's dancing. He didn't catch that one. Well, Jamal – I don't know if Tony said that, but Tony was also going through some shit yesterday. They just tied the Lions, obviously. Jamal Adams does the – No, no, Romo. Oh, Tony Romo.

Geez, I thought you meant Tony Diggs. Tony Romo also tried to get Mason Crosby fired. It's like, hey, Tony, all right. The boys – you know, I let the boys do their thing to Corona, Tony. Shut the fuck up about Mason Crosby. But anyways, as a holder, too, Tone should have known. As a holder, he should know that Mason Crosby has been dealing with a nightmare of a situation. Laces left, he misses it.

And Mason Crosby's leg is not what it once was. He's older. This is just natural happenings. He still kicks off, though. So they should have somebody potentially kick off for him. I don't know if Bohorquez can or not, but whenever you get older, I think you don't have the same amount of pop or speed to potentially power through any of the fuck-ups that can happen in the operation.

Now, rookie snapper, obviously Bohorquez new to the team, but as soon as Lace is left, he misses that kick in windy-ass Green Bay. All of a sudden, everybody starts coming out. Here we go. This guy's Jamaican. This guy's Jamaican. He makes the next kick. Let's assume he'll continue to do so as the operation gets better.

But I didn't like just, you know, because Tony was a holder. Tony was a holder. What did Tony say exactly? Basically, like, he was echoing a lot of sentiments of people on the Internet. Like, it's time. Like, it's potentially time. That's my bit. Yeah, which maybe it is, by the way.

And I'm just going to bat for a guy that I have a lot of respect for. But also, every time I see a miss out of Mason, it's not a clean operation. Everybody else seems to not have to deal with that. Why is Mason dealing with that? Maybe it's the weather. Maybe it's because it is so windy. Whatever the case, I am not at the Mason Crosby doesn't have it stage, and I'm nowhere near it

no and like you said like the ones that he is missing it seems like they're not they're like not even close so it seems like something was going on whether it's like the protection or the snap or where the laces are like when he is when he's getting a good ball like he drilled that last one down the center like you could kind of tell when he's miss hitting them it's like okay something must be up here yeah and maybe mason will miss more kicks i'm not sure i was heartbroken when i saw him hit that little slice miss wanted him to make that but going forward the operation was good and they made kicks we'll see that's that's a huge deal yeah gonna cost me a playoff game probably no because i think they're working you know i think i think they're working i think of course

they're working but are they going to be able to do it when it really matters in the playoffs? Not Mason as much. Like you even said, when it's a clean operation, Mason usually drains that thing. Every time. But everything else, are they going to be able to, like when it truly, truly matters?

Because you never know until you're tested, until you're in that moment. I know. And you never know. Rookie snapper, you know, just gets a little bit tighter, just a little bit tighter, and throws it either slower or faster. That ball's changing revolutions. And then all of a sudden, boom, Lace is straight back on like a 45-yarder.

And then all of a sudden, Bohork was just trying to spin that, and Mason hits it. It's just like you never know what's going to happen. You just got to hope that the work that they're putting in in practice is paying off, and hopefully towards the end of the uh game you saw what even would even like matter like bringing in a different guy to snap would that matter at all like because then you're just kind of introducing something new and at this point in the season like you're you're probably not going to find a very good consistent long snapper out there somewhere right yeah i don't know i don't know what the

market looks like i better find it could you find an, savvy vet that will snap it perfect on field goals, but you're not going to get any cover out of him on punt? Mule. Mule. You bring the mule in. Get him in there. Sacrifice it. Sacrifice his coverage on punt team for,

hey, we're going to have perfect snaps. Yeah, but Bohorkwes actually is punting that you don't need him to cover. Yeah. Like, he's just punting it up to get fair catches anyways. So what I'm saying is, and what I think we're all saying is, that rookie snapper's going to have to fucking

figure it out because Mason's taking a lot of ricochet right now and the laces are on this snapper. Alright. Let's move along. I think they deserve that type of credit. So whenever you see a good one, at least people go, oh, snapper. Fucking good. Hey, that was a great snap.

Like, there's been a lot of zoom-in shots from behind of guys kicking balls in a shot there and you can see just like a perfect snap and down it's like oh those laces are perfect oh those laces are just a little bit off holder goes it gets there because the operation time now is much much much much much much much much much faster now than it was back in the day when nobody cared about that seems like mason's getting hit with some things i think they'll be able to work through it. Hopefully he'll be able to continue to make kicks, and it doesn't kick you in the ass later.

Yeah. Also, like, at what point, like, when you're practicing and stuff like that, if you're not getting it, at what point when it's happened, like, this is a weekly thing. Like, are they going to figure it out? This is his second – that rookie, I think this is only his second week. Yeah, it was. He's brand new.

So he's literally brand new. That is an aggressive decision, too. I don't know how Vinatieri would have handled that entire thing, but I think that is – they're going to have to handle that and take care of it. I'm sure they will. Let's move around the internet a little bit more. Oh, Bill Nobrane, Houston Texan fan, maybe.

At Caden Daniels. Hashtag PMS overreaction Monday. Eagles are making the playoffs. Next seven weeks they have Jameis-less Saints, Giants twice. Football team is no easier. Especially with the way Hanukkah's. The Jets and a bye week. Are the Eagles poised to make a run, A.J. Hawk?

This is not that crazy to say. When you see it typed out and you see who they are playing, yeah. If you had to go through there, I think Philly definitely has a chance to win every single one of those games. Yeah, and Chase Young obviously out for the season for the football team. But if Heineke can lead a 45-minute drive to ice the game against the Buccaneers and win by 10 over the Super Bowl champs, maybe they'll be able to keep going.

Chase Young obviously a very dominant player, but that entire D-line, very, very good. But good for the Eagles, huh? You put the seeds down in the dirt. Eventually they will sprout and you will have some beautiful flowers, and our team

is a beautiful flower. And in this particular case, the beautiful flower is growing in a very shitty forest because it feels like who you're playing against in your schedule, your strength of schedule, very easy, coach.

Yeah, we'll see. I mean, our division fucking stinks. I've been saying that for a long time. We're clearly the best team, head and shoulders above everybody else.

So we're going to beat the hell out of the Giants and the Washington football team. Last one here before we get to a break in hour three. We can't thank the people of the world enough.

Richard, Metheny, Metheny, Metheny, Metheny, Metheny, here before we get to a break in hour three. We can't thank the people of the world enough. Richard? Methany? Methany? What is the origin, you think of? Is the H silent? I don't know. I don't think friends... Is the origin going to help you?

I think so. I'm cultured, obviously. Anyways, at... Right there in the front, Yorkshire. Yorkshire? Yeah, he's English. Oh, he's an English fellow. Oh, so it's just Metheny. Metheny.

Metheny. Metheny, because they say tree, right? I watched Adele last night a little bit on CBS. How was that? The Griffith Observatory or whatever. Beautiful place. She can sing her ass off. She's great.

Unbelievable. Then she did that interview with Oprah, and she talked about her life and everything. seems to be like one of the coolest people Of all time 15 Grammys she's already won 15 and she hasn't released an album In 6 years I guess that's why this thing is She's still with Rich Paul

Oh yeah A lot of the songs though are about her Her divorce My wife big fan fan of Adele. Oh, yeah, my wife's a giant fan. Big fan. My wife, I think that is a, by the way, I'm a big fan of Adele as well. She was doing an IG Live, I guess, and she didn't know how to fucking work it.

She was promoting it. Oh, yeah. And somebody asked a question and was like, what's this album about? And I guess she goes, divorce, baby. And then she just does that whole thing. And then she did an interview with Oprah talking about like her ex because they have a kid together like does she ever talk to him about his thoughts about the song and she's like we've never talked about it but i assume he knows that that's the type of artist i am she is so good i think she had like a a coffee or a tea she went

to she did a little stand-up in there too too. Really? It was a great performance. Great performance. Leo was there. Rogan was there. Rich Paul was there. It seemed to be Oprah, obviously, there. Was it live? I think they pre-recorded it. I heard about it later.

I need to go back and find it. It was on one of the TV. It was beautiful. She's very good at singing. She's very much still got it. And I'm not sure the top of a mountain is the most conducive sound. I'm not sure that's the best sound there.

But I guess they got an observatory up there. Is that for space? What the fuck is that? It is? Normally. She had a Saturn tattoo on her arm. Oh. Yeah. Very cool. That's where they got the telescopes at. Good scenic views of LA from up there. Incredible. The drone shots were.'s where they got the telescopes at. Yeah, good scenic views of L.A. from up there. Incredible.

The drone shots were. Yeah, like right beneath the Hollywood sign pretty much. They might have filmed it with an iPhone, obviously. They had a shot of Adele singing and then the Hollywood sign in the back. And they did the tap of who's focused and who's not. Yeah, it was pretty good. That would be pretty sweet. Hey, do you want to do a concert on top of the world in L.A.?

We'll get all the biggest stars on earth around, and then we'll just air it live on CBS primetime or whatever to kind of promote your new album and everything, and you'll interview with Oprah. I guess I could do that, yeah. Sounds wonderful. Anyways, let's get back to Metheny, another Brit who's not Adele. The Dallas Cowboys easily have the best offense in the NFL. jerry jones joins those meetings we smash them watermelons we also use the monkey

but we're learning now that's right and no one can stop us i i think you might be right here dick metheny your thoughts aj on the cowboys maybe being the best offense in the nfl after losing to the broncos one week ago i mean i don't think this is a crazy overaction by Dick Metany. How do you want to say it? With C.D. Lamb, man, I love everything about C.D. Lamb, too. And Dak just, I think Dak exudes confidence and makes you feel like, okay, yeah, these guys are going to get it done. He's a guy.

Yeah. Dak is a guy. Everybody knows he's a guy. It's been awesome to watch him through his injury and, you know, outplaying his contract, getting paid, coming back. That team stinks. No, they don't. The hype machine is always there.

They never win. Here we go. Maybe this should be your big mic in Dak, who we saw their relationship start to button on hard knocks, come together and do that thing. Big thanks to everybody that participated. Hashtag PMS overreaction Monday. We can't thank you enough.

We'll do it again next Monday. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to be a part of your day. Let's enjoy tonight's Monday Night Football as the Rams travel to Santa Clara, California to take on the Niners. We got a super boost going right now that Odell Beckham Jr. is going to score a touchdown.

We talked about it earlier, but it's going to happen. McVay wants to look like a smart man. McVay wants to have OBJ in the end zone. McVay and Stafford want to say our new toy is just as good as he was at one time. Can't wait to watch it. I hope that hits too. That'd be great because I'm on a little bit of a run. Would like to keep that going into Thursday Night Football Thursday in week 11. If you enjoyed the show, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these beautiful people into a Mondayay night that they're going to remember forever cheers សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាធលាប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ស្លារបស់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រ Thank you. I'm out. ចានដែលាប់បានប្រាប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប្រាប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវតែលារបស់ពីស្រូវត�