The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 539 - Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Week 10, Monday Night Football Recap, Colleen Wolfe, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 16, 2021

On today's show, Pat, AJ, and the boys chat about last night's Monday Night Football game between the Rams and 49ers, how dominant the 49ers looked, if there's reason to start panicking a bit about the Rams, and everything else happening across the league as we wrap up week 10 of the NFL season. Joining the program as he does every Tuesday, coming fresh off the Covid list and a big win against the Seattle Seahawks, is the Quarterback for the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Pat, Aaron, and AJ chat about the Seahawks game, how he's feeling post Covid and if he felt it at all during the game, how incredible the defense played and has been playing, if he felt off at all, his thoughts on Jamal Adams doing the belt celebration after a fumble, what the latest installment of the Aaron Rodgers bookclub is, and much more (31:34-1:12:23). Later, host of the pregame and postgame show for Thursday Night Football, NFL Network Reporter, and friend of the show, Colleen Wolfe joins the program to chat about what Thursday Night Football is like with that panel, and the interactions and access they get with the players, what she's hearing from Philadelphia about Nick Sirianni, why the NFL has had so much parody this year with under dogs covering a large amount of spreads, what it's like working with Steve Smith, and much more (1:12:25-1:25:51). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, November 16th, 2021. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes on this glorious day. Aaron stops by, Colleen Wolfe stops by, the boys are hot, AJ Hawk is obviously ridiculous. If you enjoy this show by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Let's go. There is a completely reasonable expectation for the Rams to actually play football last night. Oh, yeah. Okay?

The Rams. The team that told St. Louis, allegedly, potentially, we got a deal in place to get a new stadium. The taxpayers are going to pay for it. But, hey, St. Louis, we're fucking out of time. We're going to Los Angeles. And Stan Kroenke, who married the Walmart folks he probably had his own money those all arranged right has to be all those big money things I don't think they're letting anyone marry a Walmart daughter I don't think so yeah because if anybody was to get into

a relationship with a mega bazillion bazillion dollar you'd probably do exactly what Kroenke give me the avalanche give me the nuggets give me the Tottenke give me the Avalanche, give me the Nuggets, give me the Tottenham, give me the Rams you'd do all those things, that's what Kroenke a lot of money, business decisions he is a force I believe in all professional leagues at this point I think he has a baseball team, he has a hockey team

he has an MLS team he has an NFL team and he has a English league, a Premier League team so this guy is dabbling in literally every single league I'm going to Los Angeles and when he gets to LA there's another team that's going to be there the Chargers and they decide they have to build a new stadium because the Chargers are playing in an MLS stadium and the Rams are playing at USC stadium so there was a big thing that had to happen Stan Kroroenke goes, cool, let me get some designs for this stadium.

They say, here you go, in Los Angeles, some of the most expensive real estate on earth. The amount of, you know, just price gouging that happens over there and taxes and everything that happens in California. It's going to cost $2 billion. Then they get into building SoFi Stadium, and that thing ends up being like $6, $7, $8 billion. And Kroenke says, out of my ass, go ahead and take it. I don't care. Make the place sweet. And I'm going to invest all my money, not just in Sundays and Mondays and Thursdays

at SoFi Stadium that can't handle a little storm, but it is beautifully built. Not only is that money, but our team is going to win. We are going to win over Los Angeles. We were here in the past. We're going to win it over again as the Chargers try to get in there. And we have the Super Bowl in the stadium that I built. Stan Kroenke said, fuck the future. Les Needs said, fuck them picks.

And Sean McVay said, fuck, I can get down with that because I had an offer to do Monday Night Football just a year ago. They were going to pay me like $15, $20 million to do Monday Night Football. I said, no, I want to coach. So they're going all in. All in. Give us Matty Stafford. Do this. Do that. Pay this. Pay that. How you doing? Keep it moving. New stadium. New team. Trade for Von Miller. Oh, we're getting Odell Beckham Jr. We're going to actually throw him the ball on the first plate so he knows, hey, we love you. Matthew Stafford might force a punt in his direction, but we're going to go all in and we're going to win. And we're traveling to Santa Clara, California,

and we're playing against a wounded animal, a team that hasn't won at home in over eight games or on a four-game losing streak. They stink. The Rams are on the rise. The Niners on the decline. This seemed like an alley-oop, But it was, it was suspicious. A little bit.

Everybody on earth was hammering the Rams. Yep. Everybody on earth was loving Maddie Stafford and Sean McVay and Vaughn Miller

and Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey and Cooper Cub and Matthew Stafford and Johnny Heckers completing passes. What? But the line didn't move at all.

Uh-uh. Just stayed put three and a half. This thing ain't budging. It was almost like the sports book was telling us, hey, hey, hey, you all are out of control. There's going to be no chemistry between Matthew Stafford and Odell Beckham Jr., and we saw that very quickly. Von Miller might not even have any chemistry with the D-liners. Well, that's going to be a problem. He's not going to do a damn thing.

In the 49ers, Shanahan, there's been conversations about Matt Nagy potentially being a better coach than him. He drew up every single college football misdirection run right down the fucking throats of the Rams defense. It was just a year ago being heralded as one of the greatest defenses in football. I should have known this. I should have expected this.

But I am ice cold when it comes to gambling. And you don't realize that Shanahan is going to drop these plays where Juice is going to be chipping on Vaughn Miller and then George Kittle is going to pick Vaughn Miller up and dump him on his ass, which George Kittle is going to pick Von Miller up and dump him on his ass which George Kittle

is known for doing. George Kittle scores the touchdown and immediately pot happening. Of course, George Kittle scores the touchdown.

Yeah. He's so good. They did whatever the hell they wanted to the Rams. And on the offensive side, Matthew Stafford did not look good at all.

There's a conversation going around the internet now. Actually, I know a Rams fan who was saying, you look a little bit like matthew goff erd we've seen this before is what the rams fan was basically saying we've seen this before he's old there's memes now coming out where you take off obviously the mask and what's underneath they're're saying Matthew Stafford was a mask on. Boom!

This is what the internet's already saying. Oh, my God. Not just this, by the way. And this is because he threw two picks to a guy that said, Stafford stinks in the offseason. Yeah. Okay, the guy, Jimmy Ward, I believe. Jimmy Ward actually said in the offseason,

it's Stafford. What are we even talking about? I thought potentially he was going to get lit up last night by Matty Stafford, Sean McFerrin, who are incredibly competitive people and talented and drop a lot of weapons. You just watch the game, and then all of a sudden, is Carson Wentz better than Matthew Stafford? That is something I'm running into. Is Chris Ballard?

Did Chris Ballard get this right whenever he brought old two sprains to Indianapolis instead of Matthew Staffavridis because one night, now the number two wide receiver on an offense that is incredibly efficient in the passing game is out. Yeah, right. We just assumed Odell Beckham Jr. is going to be able to pick that up. That's on me. That's why I'm ice cold.

That's why for the next Super Boost, I will not be picking it. I am handing over the reins to somebody else because the people betting alongside my super boost i think they believe just like me we're too optimistic we give too much hope to things that seem to be spectacular and we we don't realize that oh they could potentially get fucking rocked tonight i didn't even think that was a situation that could possibly show up the niners did their thing yeah absolutely did their thing it was a must win they were in the corner of the NFC West back down coming out of some injuries getting a little bit healthy Jimmy

Garoppolo what's his future look like and if you watch the Manning cast I feel like you should just put 11 people in between the hashes yeah right, right there. That is where Jimmy's going to throw the ball to. Literally Peyton and Eli are like, why do the Rams even have anybody on an outside shade? He is throwing the ball right down the middle. And then, by the way, they're running right down the middle. This was Shanahan literally. It looked like a college offense because of all the misdirection

and the amount of run and speed and everything going on. But in all those offenses, just like in the Ninersers if they get going on first down it's over yeah you got to stop on first they got to a second and 13 one time and i think it was only once that they even got to a second and 13 i thought oh maybe they're in trouble they got to that fourth down they fucking seem boom they're off and running they were on schedule every single play it seemed like and there was nothing the Rams could do. And it wasn't until we were watching that, and I was watching that, that I thought, of course,

this is how this was going to go. I don't think it's time to throw in the towel on Matthew Goffard or Matthew Stafford or the guy that's allegedly not as good as Carson Wentz, which, by the way, I'm happy Carson Wentz is playing good football. Not too long ago, fadeaway, left hand, end zone, pick six.

I mean, there's going to be bad games by all humans out there. But boy, I did not expect the Rams to be that awful. On the flip side, very quickly, Al Michaels, legend. He was awesome. Incredible conversation. 75 years old. He's never ate a vegetable

before. Love that. And by the way, he has a good time. We all know Al Michaels does. He doesn't live like a, you know, he's never ate a vegetable before love that thanks and by the way he has a good time oh yeah we all know how michaels does oh yeah he doesn't live like a uh you know he's not doing the tb12 shit he is just living i think right and 75 years old sounds amazing quick that makes us all feel very good absolutely i mean that makes me feel very good i'm sure bill belichick's watching i coached on at least 75 you see fucking el michael's out there he's having time of his life he ain't like me. He was awesome. Phil Mickelson, awesome. Draymond Green, felt like I learned a lot about him.

There was a little bit of a situation where he thought they were still talking about his offsides for the Michigan State spring game as opposed to an actual offside happening in the game. Only stumble, I think, in that. I loved Draymond Green after that with that conversation. And Phillip Rivers, I fell asleep in the middle of it. Nine kids, though, was incredible. He seemed to have a good personality. Manningning cast pretty good last night in the first night back

after a week off but the game Ty I at Ty Schmidt the Packers watched along that game right and the Packers watched that game and thought to themselves okay here's a team we're probably going to have to run into at some point and do you think Packers fans are a lot more excited about the playoffs coming up? Or are you having a realistic view that that is not what the Rams are going to be going forward? I mean, excited no matter what, because I still think the Packers are better than the Rams are, especially if they have to play at Lambeau. And it's looking like, I mean, unless they win the division, the Rams are probably going to have to play an away game

in the first round of the playoffs. Because Cardinals upset. Yeah. I don't think they're dead, but doesn't it seem like they're kind of front runners? If they don't get up early, like when they were down 14-0 last night, it was just done. They need to get on teams.

The Bucs are the only team they've beaten this year that has a winning record. If they don't get up early and stuff, they kind of just collapse. The run game really wasn't there last night. Goff, I mean, excuse me. What was that all about?

Don't be doing what the internet's doing. That was a Freudian slip, but it really does. When they were up 14-0, it just didn't feel like the Rams could do it. Yeah, it was like, okay, well, this game's over. And then they couldn't get a stop either. It just feels like if they don't get up and they can't throw it all over the field,

they just crumble. And I don't want to make the comparison to Goff even more so. But Jared Goff last year when he was at the Rams, Lions now, pretty good bet too but with with goff he was great live better yeah like you you could see early with goff whether or not he was going to have a good game like you could see early if goff was in it or if goff was out it i don't know if it's still happening i haven't been paying attention as much now that they're oh eight and one maybe we should take a little look-see into that potential live bet hack.

Sure. That is Jared. But Stafford, every time they showed him, there was no – I didn't see any like, oh, this guy thinks that they're going to be able to come back. I think Robert Woods not being out there is massive. Yeah, huge. And I'm alongside a lot of other idiots that just thought OBJ would be able to just get in there and do that thing.

The game was fascinating. But those who hammered the Niners' money line, which I guess a lot of sharp... They did that... How they know... It's just because they fade the public. Smart. But they're so smart, they're intelligent because they're betting alongside the sports book, but they'll find a reason on why they think that and actually believe it

as opposed to just the fact that somehow, some way when it feels like everybody goes one way, it's going to go the other way, which is notes that we have to take down to bet like the people that fade the public and continue to make money and rake in money. Although my emotional investment in what I want to see go sometimes overrides

that, we can still get better. And it's not until Thanksgiving where these bets really start to matter. That's when real football starts being played. Bill said it. Bingo. Bill did say it. We like to be good all the time. That's actually what he said whenever he was asked about his teams getting better and playing better. We like to be good all the time, Chris. Let me just stop.

Just shut the fuck up, Chris. We're trying to play football good all the time. But Tony Diggs, the sportsbooks had to just rake in last night. They raked in last night. They've been raking in the last month because dogs are hitting an unprecedented rate. And people love overs and people love favorites. So the books have been doing pretty well. Last night.

I'm a big favorites guy. You know, I just, I love the people that are just supposed to do it, going out there and fucking doing it. Oh, yeah. But my heart's been broken. This, what is the record what is the record you go dogs are 87 62 in one against the spread this season absurd yeah insanity nfl underdogs went nine and five against the spread which is by the way explains why i i had such a right absolutely horrendous weekend uh-huh i don't want to say i'm a front runner

but i like the greats hey these greats are going to be great. I think greats should be great. I just think that should happen, but we have to remember, long season, humans, chemistry matters, camaraderie matters, but boy, that Rams got their asses slaughtered. They seem so... Listen, they're 7-3, so

let's not... Believe me, whenever the score was up there and they have their name and then they have their their name and then they have the record right underneath seven and two i'm like how the fuck did this team yeah but how is this team seven and two right now when we're looking at other teams that have terrible like the colts like the patriots sure like other teams it's like how is this team seven it's because it is a long season it is ground look what happened with dallas and denver and then look what happened dallas falcons i guess one week to another but still that was alarming

they seem so much different than last year, though. Last year, they had the number one defense, and they had a run game that was just awesome. Now they don't run the ball at all, and they also can't stop the run. I don't know how that happens just in one year. Yeah, and is it scheme? They did lose, obviously, Brandon Staley and some players. Well, I got to remember Brandon Staley also. I mean, he was quarterback at Dayton.

Also not a KSOP. Right. He was quarterback at Dayton, but he's a defense coordinator, so he sees the game through. Oh, shiz. Quarterback eyes. That's interesting. That's why he's head coach of the Chargers.

They're not winning any games either, but they got the Pittsburgh Steelers wounded on Sunday night. Who is going to be able to turn the page on a rough schneid? Pittsburgh Steelers or Chargers? We'll see that on primetime football sunday night the steelers are without 45 guys yeah all the big ones ben roethlisberger he'll probably play but what do we know about covid we don't know shit about fuck that's right so we might not because is it negative tests or is it symptoms i believe it's negative tests because

davante was able to play against the Cardinals if he got two negative tests and he was diagnosed on Monday. Okay, but I'm saying, like, is that within a 10-day period? If you get to 10 days and you still can't produce a negative test and you're vaccinated, and I'm only saying that because I am vaccinated. I could not produce. My tests might have been much cheaper because they were coming from Walgreens or CVS or whatever. Maybe it was a little cheaper than what the NFL was having.

I could not produce a negative test until day 11, even though I had no symptoms at that point for seven, eight days or whatever. It's got to be when they stop having symptoms because otherwise, why would you punish a guy for being vaccinated when if you're unvaccinated, you only have to be out 10 days and you don't have to give a negative test.

Zito might have a stat back here. I don't have the stat, but didn't Aaron have to take a test to get back in the facility? No, he was 10 days asymptomatic. So that's why he put a tweet out that said, Aaron has been asymptomatic. And everybody's like, no, I got tagged.

By the way, it was another. No, he said that he actually went through it. It was like, no, he'd been asymptomatic for a certain amount of days, which means he's no longer contagious, which is what I read into. But I was still scared to even go outside until I produced a negative test. I literally was like, I don't want to be anybody's reason for anything that happens or whatever. And I've already been locked down in isolation,

basically for nine days. I'll wait for the negative test, even though I felt incredible. And then they say, well, if you have any uh symptoms it's like well what about my the congestion in my is that a symptom or is that a side effect and then where do you get into the you just i assume they have better testing to find out if they have it than i was getting have to a lot of gray area there is there's so much because we once again we don't know shit about fuck that's right but if Roethlisberger's out Chase Claypool's out TJ Watt's out

Minka Fitzpatrick potentially out Juju Smith-Schuster's been out Tewit's been out Tyson Aluolu's out Two starting guards are out Joe Hayden Joe Hayden out He's in a boot

Oh no What's Mike Tomlin gonna do? Are they gonna look like the Rams? Are they gonna look like the Rams to do? Are they going to look like the Rams? Are they going to look like the Rams out there? Are they going to lay an egg on primetime television? If Mason Rudolph is quarterback, for sure, yeah. Oh, no. No.

No. Apparently, on primetime. Oh, no. Apparently, Dewey didn't give a fuck about us dressing on Sunday either. Oh, no knee. Apparently Dewey didn't give a fuck about us dressing on Sunday either. Oh, no knee. He was just on his phone all warm-ups.

Wasn't even warming up. Oh, no knee. I'm not giving you guys more shit. What? We're just saying it's like the what now. Yeah. We're telling it is. And I don't even know why we're spending this much time on Steelers Chargers

on Sunday night, but that game last night honestly was insane, absurd, and I apologize for the Superboost not hitting. And I would like people to have a little bit more, you know, look into it a little. Everybody's linking together the risk-free same-game parlays that are plus 1,000 with the Super Boots. No, I'm not saying that. Different.

I'm saying a lot of heat on the streets. Folks are never producing. I have produced winners in the Super Boots. Yes. Go on the record. Those people giving you heat are bullshit. And also, that was the best game the Niners have played all year by far. They lost the last four.

They haven't won a home game since last year against the Rams. It's been eight straight at home. They stink or whatever. It's just... Shanahan does very well against McVay. Five and 0 in the last five, I believe. Shani owns McVay. Really? Yeah.

That's something to remember, I guess. What's that all about? Against the rest of the division, I think he was like 8-1 against the Cards, like 7-3 against Seattle, and then he was 3-5 against – This is McVay? McVay against the Niners, yeah. They look terrible. Terrible. I mean, they looked very, very bad.

Matthew Stafford looked very bad last night. Yeah, nothing was going. But who doesn't say they bounce back? Get back in SoFi Stadium, the energy comes alive. They get back at home. They get the anti-monkey butt that Mike McCarthy gave to the Dallas Cowboys and they get going.

Today, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. How do you think it's going to go? What do you think is going to happen? At Boston, Connor, obviously, you get to ride alongside this entire thing. You become one of the poster boys for mass holes, basically, I think, for a lot of people that are necessarily not familiar with Boston, Massachusetts people.

Whenever you learn about Aaron through these Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays. Oh, yeah. And I know, no bull, you're on Mac Jones, Team Mac Jones. Forever. Who? No bull. Always. By the way, Tyron Matthew came out and said a lot of you motherfuckers were kind of clowning Mac Jones a little bit.

Now you're all on board. The dude's a baller tyron matthew has no tie no to mac jones he knows he's in the afc he went to alabama he didn't even go to lg like there is no time tyron matthew might be watching is he watching film and just being like this motherfucker is unbelievable i'm not hurt but when you listen to aaron do you enjoy it do you wish he was your quarterback do you do you think to yourself, what is Aaron? Like when we go into these conversations, what is your mindset as a non-Packer fan, as a Masshole? What is your thoughts on Tuesdays?

Well, I just like to listen to people who are exponentially smarter than me. So it's very fun to hear someone like Aaron. I definitely don't wish he was my quarterback strictly because he is 37, you know, max 23. I'll enjoy the next 20 years of my life as I watch football. But, no, I'm excited to see how he felt about Sunday. I mean, 17 to nothing, the defense. This might be the best Packers team as a whole that, I mean, at least I've seen since A.J. freaking Hawk.

Yeah, when 50 was flying around out there. Yeah, head-butting people. Helmet to helmet tackling. Yeah, we play big boy football here in the NFC. A.J. to helmet tackling. Yeah, we play big boy football here in the NFC North. A.J. Hawk from Omaha. Stevens A-list. I just seen it.

Packers number one team. Is that right? And I think everybody, you know, we've been having this conversation for a while now about how, you know, the Cowboys ranked ahead of them, the Cardinals ranked ahead of them. And that first game against the Saints was bad. It's tough. A terrible first impression. Especially after the entire offseason it was. But I think everybody with a brain,

no matter what their personal opinion is against Aaron Rodgers at this point, understands that, oh, when Aaron starts clicking on the offense side like he does and normally does, with the way this defense has been going here, they potentially can go. But it is week 10. Going into week 11. What will Joe Barry and what will the health-wise be?

Because Whitney Merciless is out now for the rest of the season, they're thinking. Hey, great run. Hey, good run. Thank you, Whitney. I'll remember it fondly. I really will. Yeah, you'll hear the name and you'll say, man, that guy helped us out.

Ray Packer. That guy helped us out. He did. He just came over from what, Houston? Yeah. Yeah, just came over from Houston at the trade deadline, I think. Yeah. And played three games, four games?

Three games, I think, yeah. Got a couple pressures, helped the team. Yeah, a couple sacks. Had a shutout with it. I mean, great run, but now they're going to have to figure it out as people get healthy. How do they continue to grow? And I'm excited to hear Aaron's thoughts from playing

and practicing against these guys. Like, hey, what have you seen from the first couple weeks that is now because this defense looked terrible earlier in the season it was a threat a liability it was something that could potentially take the packers out but now it seems to be a lot of people say that's the strength of the team that's the strength of the team that defense and they happen there's no reason not to say that it's kind of like what we always talk about too like there are some years where you know like when you are a very opportunistic defense like if you're not getting turnovers and bunches or getting sacks and stuff like that it kind of sometimes shows up like they've they've had they've won the turnover battle big time you know for the last however many

weeks like they're actually they're not necessarily getting a bunch of sacks but they're getting a lot of pressure and like you said, with the offense, they still haven't really clicked completely yet. But in a playoff game, Rodgers is going to put up points. Let's talk about clicking yet or whatever on offense. And everybody says Aaron loses. He threw like 300 yards, I think. I mean, that whole narrative, if you actually look into it,

is pretty much bullshit at this point. But, like, OBJ going to the Rams, the internet let their jokes fly. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Imagine if OBJ goes to the Packers, what happens, you know? But he goes over there. They lose. Stafford allegedly tries to force one.

Oh, yeah. Force one to him. OBJ zigs. Stafford thinks he's zagging. Sure. Obviously, it's a punt down inside the seven or the six or whatever. But OBJ is now being crushed as a team killer. Yeah.

That's real. That's happening on the internet. That's insane to me because he and Matthew Stafford didn't have the chemistry together or whatever. But building up that camaraderie and being able to be on the same page, that really takes time. And the fact that Aaron was able to win against Arizona with guys he doesn't know and Devontae, and as A.J. Dillon continues to grow, it is like that offense is only going to mature probably.

We assume. That's what every team is hoping for. But week 11, it's a long road still going here. We've got another two months until we get to the playoffs. Same deal. He was rusty, and he missed a couple passes that he never misses. To Devontae running a slant where it's like, okay, that's 25 yards right there. He might take that to the house.

You could just tell. Again, no matter how good he is, he missed 10 days worth of practice or whatever. And what happened to his fucking toe? And like you mentioned with the respiratory and the heart stuff, I wonder how strenuous of a game that was. Because it was 3-0 going into the fourth quarter. It was a terrible football game. Yeah, big time.

It was a terrible football game. But I wonder how, especially with the cold weather and everything, I'll be interested to hear how COVID actually affected him. All right. We got Colleen Wolfe joining us in a few minutes, but let's bounce around the NFL a little bit from some of the storylines here. An interesting stat has made its way onto the internet.

The Titans have 20 players on IR right now, 20. Okay. And I don't know what the baseline is for normal, but they have 20 guys on IR, which is the most in the NFL. And they've dressed over 80 players this season ir which is the most in the nfl and they've dressed over 80 players this season which is the most in the nfl uh 260 man games lost due to injury first

okay 260 oh so that's if you count the games those 20 players on ir have man games man games a big hockey thing that's like for every, that's one game that's missed. Like for the 20 guys that missed last week, that's 20 man games. So right now, we're each having one man game. We're having a man show right now. But if Ty was at and we were in and we finished the week he

did, he would have four man shows. We would have five man shows. Correct. Is NFL Reddit from Canada? Is that why they're doing Hawkins Hall? It might be.

Could be. Hey, shout out. Hey, Paul, is that Gumpy running the NFL Reddit Twitter? I remember the Ravens have that one time. Didn't they have a shitload?

This year. Earlier in the season. Earlier in the season, yeah. They had like five running backs. Remember, that was... But now Tennessee is way up. Tennessee is the most injured team in the NFL,

and yet they're the AFC number one seed. After playing the hardest strength of schedule, that shouldn't be possible. Is Vrabes the guy? Yeah. Vrabes puts on the boxing gloves. He puts on the chest protector. Sure.

He goes in there and battles with his team every single day. Smokes 75 cigarettes. Legend. Drinks 45 bottles of whiskey. Why? And he cans a chew. Boom. At one time, he's talking top shelf, bottom shelf, and he's got the side doors covered.

Oh, yeah. And he's running sprints with the team. And he's saying, I don't care who's hurt, who's playing. Whenever you get on his field, we're winning fucking games. The teams they have beat with the strength of schedule conversation. Oh, yeah. Bills, Chiefs. Colts twice.

All right. Rams. Rams. Rams. Beat the shit out of them. Okay,, Chiefs. Colts twice. Rams. Beat the shit out of them. I understand what you just said. That was before Jonathan Taylor became a guy. But you're right. Did beat a red hot Colts team right now. Beat the Rams. That team, is it sustainable? That's such a negative way

to look at it. Such a negative way to look at it. I feel like an asshole even thinking it. But look at how many players they have hurt. In the NFL, people are going to get injured. This is just how it goes. That's why you see a lot of teams loading up in positions that whenever somebody gets hurt in a prime time or a big game or late in the season, they end up being fucked because they got to change their offense because they didn't have this weapon or that running back or this. They're loading up in different positions because one injury can completely kill your offense in the most important times them just being able to cycle through next man up

how you doing keep it moving and still win adrian peterson is their running back but they completely changed their offense after derrick henry got injured although all day is back there and all day is a stud a legend everything like everything like that. It's still a threat so Tannehill can do a play action. They've changed their offense. He's not 85% of the offense like Derrick Henry was. They've adjusted. All these different players. What's your

strength? How can we do this? What can we make this better? How do we make a defense that has a guy who's coming in on a Thursday buy in and be able to play on a Sunday for the number one team in the AFC, I think that should be applauded with old phrase. Julio going on IR. Like you just mentioned, random guy stepping up.

We were watching the game and number 88, Marcus Johnson. Yeah, never heard of this guy. And he's making plays all over the field. And the other backup running back, Deontay Foreman. We were on a Spaces on Twitter. It was supposed to be a halftime spaces and then that rolled into third quarter or whatever and 88 scored a touchdown or something like that yeah and I even said because he was on a TV that was like right here so there

was a couple times where I saw 88 flashing across the screen I'm like who the fuck is an 88 and I started watching this guy was making plays and it's like the evaluation of who you let on your team who you bring in how you get them to understand the offense tannahill dealing with everything on the offensive side that defensive side completely flipping it around i mean what a fucking coaching job over there in tennessee i feel like a lot of times too like people say you know how like a team he's embody like a coach's personality and a lot of times that's bullshit and it just never happens like you can legitimately see it with the titans it's like okay these guys are like you can tell vrabel is the one who's

leading this team and by the way this isn't the first year this has happened but this is the most mature this team has been remember last year when they dozy doed on the ravens logo oh yeah vrabel said just coach your guys yeah to hardball if you guys got a problem with tell them to come fight them if not just fuck off how about that and i love that instead of our vrabel going i'm sorry our guys did that vrabel was like uh we'll deal with this later and then the ravens obviously and i think vrabel probably appreciated that i think that's why you know having a player like vrabel get into coaching is so magical i don't know if it's a normal thing. I think he might be an anomaly.

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and what we should be looking forward to next. Joining us now, a man who just beat the Seattle Seahawks 17 zip in his return post-COVID, the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers, ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah!

What's up, dude? Howdy, boys. Let's talk about the shirt real quick before we get into anything. I always love your shirt choices and potentially put me in the middle of an absolute, you know, Star Wars situation. But what is this shirt here? What do we got going on? What's cooking here?

You know, I thought about rocking my power lift shirt just because war situation but what is this shirt here what do we got going on what's cooking here you know i thought about rocking my power lift shirt just because i love giving shout outs to power lift and during covid i was so thankful to have my rack at the house to be able to work out so shout out to power lift and iron grip dumbbells but this is a this is a shirt uh one of my favorite bands called sleeping at last oh i love them fantastic uh artist does it all um got a lot of music about the planets name stuff so i love the cosmos and um but I repped some Sleep in Alaska gear today. I love that you do. I love them, by the way.

And the fact that they are the universe. And that song, Saturn, just, I mean, whenever I hear them sing about it, I'm like, wow, this is fucking awesome, dude. I'm like, Saturn is so good. But nobody wants to hear, though, about the song Saturn or Two or this incredible band here. So let's move along. And I don't know if I'm the proper person to be interviewing you about that incredible band who clearly has just two songs that Zito could find on the Internet in my ear.

Aaron, and there's a one. Saturn is a great one. It's probably my favorite by them. So good pull there, Zito. Atta boy, Z. Atta boy, Z. Thank you for making me look smart. Can we ask a couple questions About this past weekend against Seattle

The answer is yes, we appreciate you for your time The toe injury, what happened With the toe, was that at the house While you were by yourself and how did you test The heart in the cardio to know That you should play on Sunday Yeah, that was a COVID injury But as far as the heart

I just had to get back into working out just to see how I was feeling. And day five and six, I had a couple of good workouts and I felt good afterwards. So I wasn't worried about my wind or heart or any of those issues and got checked out, obviously, before I got totally cleared. So I felt really good. Shout out to the Hydro as well. I know you're a big rower. That's how you get those big arms and traps, right? Yeah, and his back here. You know what I mean? And his back. Yeah, yeah. To do some rowing workouts was important. Okay, so what happened to the fucking toe though? That came out of nowhere. The internet was letting a lot of jokes fly. Is that anything to be worried about or is that just something that kind of popped up out of nowhere

it's a little painful but uh i think i'll be okay i was able to run around a little bit on on sunday so so what were you i mean i've read somewhere where you and uh rogan were smoking dmt over a virtual session you jammed your toe on something in your house is there any truth to that i read that report as well I can't confirm or deny that. Okay, so the toe is nothing to worry about going forward, and obviously you were able to play, but it did come out of a quarantine session. So I guess we will just continue to wonder on how that potentially happened. Were you getting out of bed?

You stumble, you hit your toe like many of us have, or are you running sprints through the kitchen, and maybe all of a sudden a stool gets you? These questions are just going to continue to linger as soon as I heard. By doing a two-minute drill in the backyard. Okay. Is that what happened? Possibly. You never know.

Was I working at the greenhouse? I don't know. Oh, was it when you broke the huddle all by yourself? When you stood up, you hyperextended it when you were doing the two-minute drill against nobody? Is that what happened? No, I can confirm it was not that. Not arising from a knee, no. All right, let's talk about the game once you got in there.

Happy to hear the toe's okay, and I can't wait to hear the incredible reasons on how you got hurt that the internet will continue to create alongside the DMT session that potentially happened between you and Dr. Joe Rogan. But when you get back into the game and you start playing, did you feel any, you know, rust not being around for 10 days, getting dropped in on a Saturday? We know you were Zooming and you were kind of voice of Godding in situations, but did you feel any rust? Did Seattle do anything you didn't expect?

Or how do you feel like the start of that game going? Did you ever feel back to your normal normal self i felt good from the start i think that their defense uh wasn't the typical seattle that we've seen over the years as far as coverage wise you know over the years playing against legion of boom it was basically one coverage for the most but then they mixed in some man here and there and occasionally a little bit of too high but it was it was mostly the one high uh three buzz coverage that they played and they just played it so well i mean they were so incredibly um disciplined in their drops and their responsibilities it was hard to do anything against them uh this defense played some jam front which was which was uh uh you know the old

seattle defense didn't play a lot of jam front, and they played a lot of two-shell behind it, basically saying we're going to stop you with the jam front from running the football, and we're going to play some two-shell on the back end. I thought it was, you know, well executed by Ken and his defense. I thought they played well. We were just a little bit off, and we had some opportunities. We had a, you know, I had a run early in the first quarter to get us first down kind of deep in the red zone,

and there was kind of a phantom holding call on Elton that brought us back and put us behind the sticks. Obviously, I threw a pick in the end zone, which took three points off the board. So we were just a little bit off, but we had a couple good drives there in the third and fourth quarter to put the game away. Obviously, our defense plan was just unbelievable. it kept us in the game and kept them obviously scoreless and um but we were behind you know it was a weird game with the possession we had almost 40 minutes of possession but a lot of it was because you know we started multiple drives

inside the 20 their punter was doing a really nice job and and you know we had uh we had a lot of long fields to go to go down and couldn't put together drives ended up in the end zone total quarter shout out michael dixon shout out yeah hell of a game for him but wait what was your saturday schedule like like do you get in extra early like how do you have to cram like what was that whole situation like getting back with the team no not really cram i just had to get uh get cleared from the doctors and go through a workout in front of them. And then I just went right to meetings and our normal Saturday walkthrough. And Matt had asked if I wanted to do anything extra.

I just felt like I think there's a lot to the routine. And I didn't want to mess up everybody's routine just because I was back and hadn't had a chance to practice. So we threw in maybe a couple extra plays during that walkthrough period that I had circled during the week that I wanted to just be able to call out and see, even in a slow walkthrough setting, just kind of see the distribution of the guys. And so he allowed, you know, a few extra plays in that walkthrough period. But it was a very, very typical Saturday, wasn't it? Okay. And, I mean, that was a soccer game through three quarters. I mean, it was 3-0 typical saturday other than that okay and i mean that was

a soccer game through three quarters i mean it was three nothing there and that's not a shot at the beautiful game it was just like it was a cagey affair as our canadian friend gumpy who's maybe the greatest soccer handicapper on earth will call it and i think it's because of something you alluded to there your defense is absurd what has it been and granted you had to miss 10 days because uncle kovid came knocking we're happy you're alive by the way and able to play afterwards and it seemed like not a lot of people really cared about how your health and condition was we're excited to hear that you're okay and you had no lasting effects hopefully although we don't know shit about fucking this entire thing we who knows and that but have you seen the defense grow

through the season because there were some times early in the year where I think not just fans, but I felt like media, everybody, this Joe Barry has stunk since forever. How is this the answer? And then all of a sudden this team is stacking up. Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson. I mean, have you seen the growth in the defense? And there's a couple weapons coming back. What do you think it is?

Why do you think they are clicking so well right now? They're playing great top to bottom. I think the front's doing a nice job against the run. Much like Seattle, and you've seen the trend across the league, defenses would love to be able to play two-shell and stop the run. And the teams that can do that are having the most success on defense. And just like this league is so cyclical, when the running back position a few years ago started to become

a little more obsolete to some people in some people's eyes and you had less people, and even still, less people rush for 1,000 yards, more two-back systems, when the league was going to predominantly one-high defenses, now it's shifted back. And now there's more two high defenses. The onus on the run game is as high as it's been in a while, and you have to be able to run the ball. If you can't run the ball, then teams are just going to sit back

and they're too high, and our defense has done a nice job of mixing up coverages but playing too high to be able to stop the pass and stop on the run with a light box. And it's a credit to the interior defense alignments, credit to the outside backers setting the edge, credit to our inside backers. You know, we've all, I think, played really well. Everybody from Chris Barnes to Warren Burks

to obviously the unsung hero of the defense, Devondre Campbell, who's had a fantastic season. You know, he's been all over the place, tackling machine, disrupting passing lanes, being a great leader in the locker room. He's been as big of a reason, I think, as just about anybody. But the back end has played really solid. To lose a top corner league in Jair and lose Kevin for a number of weeks and to have young Stokes, you know, be so consistent as a rookie for us, with Sewell Douglas to come in off the street and play so well for us.

That's been the greatest thing. And I think Adrian and Darnell, our safeties, you know, have really done a nice job too. And then you add in the way that Sully has played and slopped for us and Henry Black when he's been in there. You know, we've had contributions from a lot of different guys on the back end, and they've all, I feel like, been covering really well and playing consistent and tackling.

The tackling, I think, has been what has allowed us to stop people and get off the field. When you look around the league, and I know you probably don't study games if you're not playing the teams, but what do you think it is with all this inconsistency with teams? The Rams getting blown out last night by the Niners. Yeah, the Niners looked great, but we expected the Rams to eventually get it going. And you look around, you see the Bucs

just lost again. Why is it so tough to win week in and week out and actually be consistent? Well, that's the league. I mean, it's what they want. It's parity. There's a lot of parity in the league. I think anybody can beat anybody. There's obviously other issues, you know, injuries and COVID

stuff at various times, forced teams. You look at Pittsburgh losing, you know, losing Ben to COVID and Mason stepping in and then having a back-and-forth game that goes to overtime, and overtime is 10 minutes now, and they end up in a tie. You know, and obviously, you know, Washington playing Tampa tough, and you saw it last night.

Anybody can beat anybody, truly, and I think the league is very wide open. Jacksonville had a big upset a couple weeks ago. Buffalo, yeah. It was surprising to a lot of people. Some teams match up better against other teams, I think, just based on pure schematics. And then there's always, I think, things that can crop up, you know, complacency or maybe a lack of focus

or maybe a team just gets hot in a day and a quarterback gets hot or a defense gets hot and schematically things match up and you're able to stop somebody. And that's the kind of league we're in. I mean, Shanahan, I saw last night in San Fran, they've beaten the Rams like a few in a row now, I think, right? Yes, yeah. He is McVay's kryptonite, it seems like, Shanahan.

And, again, they're not calling the game against each other. Shanahan's calling it against defense, and McVay's calling it against defense. But they've found a way to get it done. That's just the league we're in right now is a lot of parity. When we started the season, it looked like the NFC was the far superior conference. I mean, there was like four or five teams undefeated or had only one loss in the NFC, but it had at least one loss, if not two losses.

And now you look at it, and I looked at it before this week, I think it was 11 teams in the AFC had a winning record and only six in the 11 the AFC six in the NFC um you know so the the kind of the the depth of the AFC has kind of proven itself and the NFC is kind of separating a little bit more than than the AFC and I guess and by the way you understanding and knowing all that is awesome I just I assume that you wouldn't be able to pay attention to the grand scheme of things, but, I mean, you have a massive brain, obviously. That is something that is pretty relevant and evident whenever you stop by here.

But let's go back to inconsistencies. After that first game against the Saints, and now you guys are number one, by the way, I think, on a lot of different power rankings. The Packers, number one team in the NFL. Hey, congrats. Hey, congrats, dude. It wasn't like that all the time. You guys were getting dumped on and dunked on a lot of the season, but now

I think people are appreciating and respecting the run you're on. What do you think it has been since that first game? Was it just first game? Everything was just kind of out of whack? What do you think it is about this team? And you guys got a lot of weeks left now. We're right in the middle of it. There is no light at the end of the tunnel? Or what do you think it is about this team? And you guys got a lot of weeks left now. We're right in the middle of it. There is no light at the end of the tunnel yet.

How do you continue to maintain that? And what do you think it has been that changed since week one? Well, I think piggybacking off of what I just said, sometimes schematically things line up perfectly in a game where their offense might schematically have certain plays that line up perfectly against a defensive call. And vice versa. We might have things that we really like during the week. And for whatever reason, they mix something up or they hit on a specific call that aligns perfectly to defend what we're trying to do on offense on that play.

And things happen. And it happens in the reverse sometimes. You might make a great call, you think, and there's a bust in coverage or a misalignment or something that leaves the guy wide open and it leads to, you know, big plays because big plays are what the game is all about. Hell, yeah. Week one, we just, you know, we didn't execute very well. They, you know, were not even playing at home. We were playing on a neutral site.

And, you know, we just had a clunker of a game. Nothing that we dialed up kind of aligned and we didn't execute very well. of a game nothing that we dialed up kind of aligned and we didn't execute very well and a lot of stuff they dialed up you know they had a third and nine screen that went for or fourth and fourth and eight screen that went for 20 yards you know for a first down just things like that happen and since then I think we've obviously played a lot better football I think so too and I know AJ has another question but I have to follow up with this because after the offseason with all the drama around you in your life and every decision you make in the conversation and the accruing of information that was dropped on draft day and everything that happened, we all assumed scorched earth. Rogers is about to absolutely buzz off people. Then that first week happens. It's ugly. The people are getting real loud about you. Maybe not having it anymore. Not worth it. Remember

these are the things that actually happened. And then obviously since then you've had success after what happened during the COVID thing. Why do you think that that is a, a natural reaction for all of us that are kind of fans of yours to be like oh okay a guy now has another chip on his shoulder all this is there anything to that you think and do you recognize that as being a real thing in your world i think you're based not off of patterns that have happened so it's not conjecture or make-believe there's been things that have happened and things that that have been said and then the way that I've responded either immediately or through the course of the season has kind of put a lot of that stuff to bed.

You know, I think in 2016 when there were a couple of hit pieces out on me, we were 4-6, and I said we're going to run the table. And what happened? We won 8 straight and went to the next championship. So, you know, we were 1-2, and I said everybody needs to relax a little bit. Things are kind of going nuts, and we finished the season, you know, 11-2 or 12-1 or something that year. So, you know, I think there's a history of it.

So I'm not surprised by that. But there's also, you know, a trend of overreaction that happens every Monday. You guys do a segment, I think, don't you? It's a whole show, yeah. Three and a half hours. Three and a half hours, Aaron. Yeah, three and a half hours. We feed that fire, but do you just write it all down on the mirror?

Is that how you stubbed your toe? Were you writing down all the things that everybody was saying about you and you want to climb up on the mirror a little higher? Oh, toe off the wall. Is that what happened? That's basically what happened, yeah. I had my Rocky Balboa room

where I got my pictures and all the writings and I grab them after I take one of them down and toss it to the side. That's nice. We all thought so. That is exactly what we thought happened. It's nice to hear you're relatable. You know what I mean, AJ? Go ahead.

Yeah, it's good to know. But with the 17-game season, I talked to Pat earlier. I've seen some people try to say players may be pacing themselves or whatever. They can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. Do you ever feel that with anybody? Is your day-to-day change or anyone's mindset change with the 17-game season?

And also, what are the chances that you're going to be playing in Green Bay next year? Hey, that's good journalism! It's a twofer. Yeah, thank you for that twofer there. I find it hard to imagine anybody's pacing themselves. We're talking about one more game. We've played 16 games for so many years in a row now.

One extra game you're talking about you know a 6.25 increase in playing like i don't think anybody's actually really pacing themselves uh with the extra game now um he's doing wow did you just do that math in your head right there do you have the uh are you one of those guys? Like, oh, let me carry the one. 42 times 82. Yeah, they have this covered to defense right now. I've seen this. Is that you?

Is that real? That's real, yeah. All right. Seven times two. That's some mental math tricks I can do. Another time. Another time. Another time.

Another show. Another show. Another show. Age? No comment. Oh, shit! Hey, they're going to have to bleep me out of a lot. That's a good thing.

My reaction now. I just wanted to no comment you, Ace. That's fun for me. Now that you're a media personality, a big media guy. Isn't that the first thing they tell you, though, when they sit you down in your rookie year? Don't say no comment. That's what they told us. Yeah, I wasn't part of that conversation. You are are a rebel though so you can say a maverick

here we go maverick there you go uh you guys didn't get introduced that was a change because i thought the offense was getting introed is that a big deal or not at all do you do you do you look into that should we look into that i love the intros um i'm not sure who picks who's introed each week but i'm hoping uh two weeks it's the offense especially after hey after one covet game we're back in there we're slinging the pillow around all of a sudden the cheese head god is oh my god that place will be it was cold as shit huh i saw the long johns you had and you told us a couple weeks ago you know that when the leaves start to turn and the weather starts to get a little bit chilly,

you get a twinkle in your eye because that's football season. Did you have the first taste of that this past weekend? And not a lot of people were in long sleeves. You're not normally like, I'm wearing long sleeves when it's kind of cold type of guy. Did you regret the long johns throughout the game, or did you think it was accurately worn? No, I have some strict policies. When it's under 50 i wear long sleeves so last home game it was right at 50 i asked jaylo before the game because he always goes out and he comes back in and tells me like is it cold out there is it windy or whatever you know and he came back in he said that's not that bad i said what's the temperature he said i think it's 50 i was like

okay short short sleeves it is but this was was, I think the temperature was 36. We had some snow flurries. We woke up to winter wonderland outside. It was snow everywhere, and the leaves were off the trees, basically. But it wasn't that cold. I mean, when it gets below 20, that's real cold. And you'll know if it feels cold to me if I'm wearing my turtleneck. Oh, yeah.

I wasn't wearing that. And you know it's on when that thing is on. But I wasn't wearing it. So it wasn't that cold. We've talked about this, I think, last year. But forgive me for probably forgetting this. And it is a shame because this is something I should know. Is it just because you have massive ham hocks?

Is that why the cold weather doesn't affect you at all? It seems like the offense doesn't change. There is, I mean, there was a couple of misses, I guess, this weekend, but everybody's going to miss every once in a while. It doesn't seem to affect you ever. It is almost like you are a cold weather quarterback. What is it? I know you've told us in the past, but I don't think I, is it just your massive hands that make you better than everybody else that definitely helps that definitely helps you gotta have big hands to throw in the cold um the biggest deterrent though is is to throwing is first rain and second wind and we usually get a good bit of wind, regardless of the time of year.

And that's always the biggest deterrent. Snowfall is not a problem. Cold is not a problem. But it's the wind. And the wind was really swirling Sunday. Every now and then I'll throw some grass up, like yourself, like a golfer will do, to try and get the direction of the wind. And I did it like five or six times because you can never trust the flags lambo because usually they blow opposite so if they're blowing from the north usually the wind is coming out of the south on the field and because of the temperature as i drove in i could tell it was a north wind so that would tell

you that it usually is going to blow from our tunnel really in more of a kind of a southwesterly direction on the field but of course in the game in the game it was blowing kind of all over the place so there were times I felt like I was downwind I threw a ball to Alan I thought I was downwind and turned it I was dead into the wind and the ball wasn't a great tight spiral and got held up and and turned out to be a you know a pbu where it could have been a big time play so there were a few disappointments like that but that's just playing the lambo sometimes it's actually way better than used to be when i'm my first year started in 08 before the addition of

some of the boxes with um with one of their uh um... What are they selling? Stock. Stock they're doing again right now. $90 million is about to be raised right now by no ownership. Yeah. But it was a lot worse in 2008. I mean, you never knew which way the wind was blowing.

When they raised up a stadium and had the extra boxes, it actually protects, and it got the big jumbotrons, it protects the wind a little bit more on both sides. It's chilly as hell out there. I mean, it's a frozen tundra. It's something that literal stories are told about,

and it seems to not affect you. You're like 82-19-1 or 85-19-1 at home, and you're going to start your 200th career game coming up this weekend. The Packers passed the Chicago Bears for the most home victories in a franchise history of 4-1-51. You've obviously both have been a massive part of that. It's incredible the way you've been able to handle the elements in your entire career. Last question before Ty has one. And Ty, hey, you know Ty.

Accepted a Harvard Big Brain Packers owner. I don't know how he feels about the dilution of his stock. I don't know if you need to get asked or signed off on that entire thing. But the Odell Beckham Jr. thing. He was allegedly potentially coming to the Packers. He liked the Packers. Then there was McVay got on the

phone, recruited him to the Rams and everybody's judging that decision off of one night just a few days after the acquisition there. And we saw photos of you and obj uh at different events and being friends and obviously you two would get along i assume pretty similar like-minded humans how much did you feel you should be a part of that were you a part of that and did you ever feel like obj was going to be a packer well we've been friends for a long time

and kept in touch and met him at some events and just sent encouraging messages during the seasons over the years. When he became free, there was definitely conversations and I was in the conversation with him directly. I mean, I've been friends with him so I didn't need to get put on the phone by anybody else. I could just get a hold of him directly. I mean, I've obviously been friends with him, so I didn't need to, you know, get, you know, put on the phone by anybody else. I could just get a hold of him directly. But there were conversations with the organization as well, and I appreciated the fact that we're in the mix. It just comes down to fit, ultimately, and what the best fit is for him. And we had some real good, honest conversations, and I'm excited for him in LA. I thought that there was definitely

some things that lined up, you lined up him coming to Green Bay. But ultimately, he took time to decide where he wanted to be and turned out to be L.A. And again, I wouldn't judge one performance. He obviously had some plays that he felt good about, but he wasn't playing, you know, most of the fourth quarter when there were no huddle stuff. So obviously he has some ways to go learn the offense. And, you know, it's a similar offense that we run. It's not one you feel like you can really jump in at certain positions and just know it right away. There's four or five teams that run it, but it's not all over the league.

And it has different terminology and signals and splits and alignments. So I would definitely reserve judgment on righting off OBJ. I think he's got a lot of really productive years left in his career. What about Stafford? People are calling him. I mean, this is obviously not your words, but people are using this as a shot at him. They're saying he's Matthew Goffard all of a sudden whenever he gets away

and he's lost. People are saying he can't throw anymore. He stinks. They need a bench. That is kind of what your point is about everything, though, I guess. Those are trash comments. I mean, I'm a huge Stafford fan. I have been for a long time.

We've played against him so many years. One of the most gifted throwers of the football, definitely in my generation, and I put him up there with some of the most gifted guys that ever throw in football. You know, I'm a fan. He's a tough dude. He's played through some crazy injuries. I mean, he played in Detroit all those years.

You've got to be at the base level of mental fortitude already. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, I'm a big fan. And he's had a really nice season. I mean, they're 7-3. He's played really well, first year a big fan. And he's had a nice, a really nice season. I mean, there's seven and three. He's played really well. First year in the system. So I'm not here for any Matthew Stafford trash.

Slander. Yeah, us neither. Aaron, hey, you're here, pal. Go ahead, talk. Aaron, glad you're healthy. It was nice seeing you back on the field. A lot of people were talking about Jamal Adams getting the pick and then mocking you doing the belt.

And we all know anytime someone does that, you guys ultimately end up just kicking their ass. Is that something you do like before the game? Do you tell guys like, hey, if you pick me off and do the belt, I'll throw a football through your chest? Or is it one of those things where it's just like you know because you throw so few of them that shit like that's going to happen and it's just kind of like whatever? I didn't see him do it, but there hasn't been a lot of positive things that have come from guys doing it over the years.

I mean, I think the boys can put together some mock-up for some of those things, but there hasn't been a lot of positives that have come away from guys mocking the belt over the years. That was a gift that I told him later in the game an absolute early christmas present uh you know on that one a bad decision and obviously didn't throw it anywhere where i near where i wanted to throw it so um look you know there's been guys who've made some good picks over the years like good playing the ball or baiting me or you know it hasn't been a ton of guys. But those I really, you know, respect. And most of those guys, you know, I tell them after the game

or during the game, hey, man, great play. You know, like I have respect for that. And I respect Jamal. I mean, he's a hell of a player. But that wasn't necessarily the most difficult one. I kind of threw it right to him. So you have a – listen, Jamal, if you're going to do the belt, please, at least make it on a play that I didn't just give it to you.

All right, at least earn that thing. But that is going on the mantle. This was a pickoff of Aaron Rodgers. There's some ratio was shown on the screen about touchdowns to interceptions, I think, and you have the highest at 4.7 or something. I forget what it is in history. Why is that? Has it just been ingrained in your body not to turn?

The ball is the program? Or do you think it's because of your accuracy? Or what do you think it is that there are some guys that just are turnover parties and for whatever reason throughout your entire very long career you have not been at all? I think a lot of it is just the mindset. A lot of it is scars too. When I was a young player coming up the

ranks in high school and junior college and at Cal, it was kind of understood. You know, I was in quarterback competitions and you take care of the football, you're going to keep playing. You turn the ball over, you're going to be sitting on the sidelines watching. So that was always kind of ingrained in me. The other part is the more accurate you are the more the less opportunities you have for some of those um you know ones that uh that get away you know i think decision making is all about the highest percentage possibility of a positive play occurring each throw and that goes into my mindset that goes in my preparation that goes into the brief snap and the and the walk to the line of scrimmage and the at the snap reads and then obviously the post snap is all about the proper read and the proper delivery of the football now there's things that are out of

your control you know drops deflections guys falling down but the ones you can help based on ball placement and accuracy I think that's allowed me to limit those over the years. Yeah, I mean, it sounds good in theory, but every coach tells the quarterback, hey, we can't turn the ball over. We can't throw interceptions. Like, what do you think you do that separates you? Because everyone's trying to not throw picks. Is it your preparation?

Is it your in-game, like how everything slows down? Like, what do you think it could be? And can you turn it off? You know, can you turn that off? could be? And can you turn it off? Can you turn that off? Do you think some guys can turn it off? I mean, I think there's different points where you get more aggressive for sure. I mean, in tight games in two minutes in the fourth quarter,

you might, you know, a lower percentage situation, you might try and fit a ball in certain spots where early in the game you might just check it down and move on down the road if you need a chunk play at certain times you might try and throw one up and in various points during the game you might be having a great game and it'd be in the fourth quarter and you might try and throw a you know 30 70 ball or a 10 90 ball um and it turned out good i saw pat do it the other night i said i had football you know he got outside the pocket and threw it up to a running back. Guy made a great catch in the end zone for, I think, his fifth touchdown. Sometimes you get in that mindset where you're like, hey, it's my night tonight.

Nothing's going to go wrong. I can put the ball just about anywhere I want, and something good's going to happen. It's going to either be a catch or an incompletion. So it just depends on the mindset in the moment. But I think for the most part, when you're locked in, you're throwing high percentage throws and even tight window stuff can, can be high percentage of your mind based on the leverage and the, the defender's position and who you're thrown to a lot of times too. Hey, what point do you think you find out that you're in it?

Like you can control the, is it in the game? Is it in warmups? Oh, you know what? It feels like this ball is going to go wherever the fuck i want it to go is that in the game and warm-ups you go into it do you start feeling that you're kind of in it it's like all right let's start going and do you let the floor know does the floor naturally know do you have you looked into deeper into that zone that you feel like i'm completing every single ball today yeah i mean i think there's there's a there's a long answer to that i'll give you maybe a medium answer um take a medium fry sometimes not media i'll give you a medium answer medium length answer medium fry yeah i'll take me a fry and a sprite please yes thank you i could get supersized

version i assume it's way over my head though thank you aaron you're a big sonic guy aren't you or your chick-fil-a oh i do fuck with some chick-fil-a i a spicy chicken oh i need to be more healthy though but that could be a super size answer or a medium answer we don't need to get to that now the zone we should get back to though because we're watching tom's man in the arena tonight and i i enjoy like learning why people that are at a different level than everybody else are at a different level than everybody else. Like, and you are obviously one of those dudes. There's not a lot of you guys out there, which is pretty sweet.

And I just wonder, like, do you know you're in a zone? And when is it? Is it going into the game? Is it while it's happening? Do you make one throw? And you're like, holy shit, okay, here we go. Maybe tonight's a little different? Yeah, sometimes that's the case.

I mean, sometimes maybe you're not feeling it pregame and the ball doesn't feel great coming off and you make a couple throws early on and you go, whoa, okay, I'm in it now. This thing is really jumping off your hand or it's right where you want to put it every time. Sometimes during the week of practice, you have some of those special weeks.

You're like, man, this has been a great week. Everything is coming together. My footwork's tying with the routes and the ball's coming off good and I'm using good eye discipline and everything's just kind of in in a line sometimes it's moments in a game that can last the whole game sometimes it's just little stretches where you really feel like you're dialed in but the key is is that flow state you know the flow state that's talked about so much uh you know with the mindset and the ability to stay in the moment and have things, you know, be slow all around you and be able to, you know, think very quickly

and make a bunch of deductions in a short amount of time, be here now exactly. So, yeah, sometimes it can be during the week, sometimes on game day. Sometimes you feel incredible during the week and you get out there and you can't put the ball anywhere you want it. But most of the time it's close to that flow state i'd say tom diggs has a question for you aaron obviously you played fine with the toe injury but russ it was reported that he rehabbed 28 hours a day on his finger injury did you happen to get a chance to ask him how that's possible and potentially what you could do to fix your toe. And did you do the same with COVID?

I didn't get a chance to ask him about that. But he definitely came back from that quickly. I've had a couple finger injuries over the years, and it definitely makes throwing the ball tougher. It makes throwing the ball in the cold a lot tougher. So I definitely knew that was going to be a grind for him, getting through that game, 36 degrees with the finger and the cold. All right. Well, before we get to the book club, I'd be remiss if I didn't ask.

You chopped the top off. Then you took it off. You cut the hair? You got a haircut right now? Do we have a new haircut right now? No, man. I still got the flow. Oh, you got it up there in the

toboggan upper. No, it's down here. It's not going anywhere, man. Oh, really? We're keeping that going in the flow state? We're going to keep that thing rolling? Yeah, that's what Ram Dass says, man. Don't cut your hair. I love it. I love it.

I didn't even know Ram Dass existed. Rest in peace to Ram Dass and Sun Tzu. But now it is time for my favorite moment in the history of books. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for the 11th installment of the book club that has captivated the globe. Drumroll, please.

Ladies and gentlemen, first there was The Alchemist, then there was a bunch of books about really good stuff. Then The Power of now, which makes you focus on the time that is now, and maybe enjoying the universe that is right now. And then the outliers, why are the greats the great? And then last week it was the daily stoic, and although I've only been able to read seven pages of that 365, maybe leap year, 366 page book. I can't wait to find out what is installment number 11 of the

Aaron Rodgers book club. I'm going to tone this seat down and see if we can see this good. Fingerprints of the Gods. Can you see that? Oh, Graham Hancock. Of course. Of course, Graham. Graham Hancock. Archaeologist. Fascinating human Hancock, of course. Of course, Graham. Hancock, archaeologist, fascinating human being.

He tracked down the Ark of the Covenant. But this is an amazing book. Anybody who loves history, learn about lost civilizations, Egypt. Aliens. Aliens. Egypt aliens. But I'm a big Graham Hancock fan. I heard about him on the JRE. Dr. Joe Rogan. His podcast.

Joe Rogan Experience. And I've seen all of his episodes. And he's a fascinating guy. I mean, he's been all over the world doing research. He's like a modern-day Indiana Jones. If anybody loves history and kind of maybe rewriting some of what we learned growing up based on his incredible research and decades and decades of studying lost civilizations and the history of civilizations,

it's a phenomenal book it's a really long one pat so that's it uh whoever the best reader of the boys is it might be a little bit but uh big graham hancock fan hey who built the pyramids though um rick ross has an answer in a rap song that is very what did what did rosé say it was just it was just them they built it everybody wants to give credit to the aliens and everything else and there's no modern technology and they did it he said everybody's handing out credit everywhere else yeah i i think the common narrative though rosé also one of my favorite humans he actually wakes up every morning

he goes outside of his estate uh barefoot and hefoot and he lets with some rosé and he lets God bless your boy. And I love Rick Ross. OK, Fat Boy was the ghostwriter behind a lot of our favorite flows. I believe he's the one who said that and many other things. But you is Graham Hancock under the the thought that the aliens came down, did their thing, built those, and kind of been a part of the entire history a lot more than we are recognizing today? No, he doesn't mention that. Oh, what the fuck?

Some of these civilizations that we've been told were very primitive may have had some technology that was far superior than the credit that we give them at this point. To be able to move some of these large stones, that would be difficult for today's technology.

Okay. What about the aliens? There's some talk about Atlantis as well. Oh, down in the Bahamas. That's right. Down there in the Bahamas, the Atlantis. That place is unbelievable. Let's talk about the aliens.

Can we get into this? You've got a Saturn shirt on. All right. We're talking about the. Graham Hancock. Graham Hancock here. We're talking about a lot of things. And you've obviously seen an unidentified aerial phenomenon, which is what it's called.

A lot of people think you're potentially an alien. You ever think about that? People say, this guy, not from Earth. You see what he does? He's an alien. Do you ever think about that when you look in this guy, not from Earth. You see what he does? He's an alien. Do you ever think about that when you look in the mirror and stub your toe? I do, and I

think that's a big compliment. I appreciate that. Ladies and gentlemen, the man who founded the biggest book club in the globe, and also an alien, and a man who will join me in a... Go ahead, get it in. I'm going to let you get in before I sign off

And a howl at the moon someday Raining MVP Aaron Rod Oh dude I have so much guitar playing In his little quarantine lockdown Did you see that son of a bitch What is this thing called

He's already got that thing locked in there He's been practicing new songs quarantine lockdown. Did you see that son of a bitch? What is this thing called? E minor? Tempo? He's already got that thing locked in there. He's been practicing new songs and maybe he dropped his guitar on his toe. That's what he did. He probably dropped his guitar on his toe. Why wouldn't he kill us, man? What happened? It had to be something embarrassing. It had to have been maybe him climbing up on the mirror to add

another name onto the list and he slipped and fell, maybe broke his toe. Joining us right now, The Voice, basically. Thursday Night Football. Oh, yeah. An absolute superstar on NFL Network.

Host of the Round the NFL pod. On the Clock podcast with Blue Wire Pods. Good morning football on the weekends. Yeah. Absolute superstar, ladies and morning football on the weekends. Yeah. Absolute superstar, ladies and gentlemen, Colleen Wolf. Yeah!

Hello! Hello, hello, hello. Great to see you. Hey, it is great to see you as well. We can't thank you enough for joining us again. You crushed for us the last time, and I know you've got a busy schedule. You have 45...

Hey, Colleen, you've got 45 fucking jobs, dude. You're crushing it out there. Yeah, I mean, I don don't sleep but that's okay listen by the way i just want to tell you uh your accent it sounds like my entire family i didn't realize that you were from plum pennsylvania buddy i was just googling exactly where that is in the state same state i'm from outside of philly and seriously my whole family sounds like you. Well, is it Philadelphia accent? It's a little bit different. You guys dropped the Johns in there. And like the...

I know. I actually have my John bracelet on right now. Yeah, you got the O's and the home and the phone, and I love it. Great to see you again, my friend. Hey, great to see you as well. Philadelphia, an incredible city. I mean, obviously Pittsburgh's better than Philly, but I mean, that is... We don't have enough time. We don't have enough time. It's a shame.

Let's get into last night and the NFL as a whole. Right now, underdogs are winning at a rate that they never have in the past. This weekend, 9-5, the dogs won against the spread. Last night, obviously, a huge, huge shot to everybody in the NFC about what the Niners just did to the Rams. Why is the NFL the way it is this year, Colleen? I mean, you're right entrenched in the middle of all of it, interviewing all the people involved.

Does everybody think it's as insane as we do? I mean, how about on Thursday night last week with the Dolphins beating the Ravens? I mean, we all saw that one coming, right? Robert Hunt, my new best friend. I love him so much. But this is like a crazy, mixed-up NFL, and I love it. I love every single thing about it because, come on, if these teams that we're supposed to win were winning, then come on, it's boring.

No, no, it's not. It's actually pretty profitable gambling. I know. I'm sorry to all. What is gambling? What is betting? No, no. Hey, you crush it.

Fan those on the Thursday Night Football Show and you crush it. You actually, you probably, because you're from Philly, by the way, that is probably a pretty natural thing. You crush it on there. But you're right, I guess. Do you think there's going to be a time where these teams find their level or do you think we're in for a lot more shakeup, you think, the next few weeks? Well, I've been waiting for these teams to kind of level out and come back around

because every year you have like a certain couple games that are kind of like mulligans or weird things that happen. But like even just the AFC in general over the last few weeks has just been so hard to figure out. And then with you have last night, what happened with the Niners and the Rams? I mean, the Niners beating them by three scores I guess I shouldn't be surprised because the Rams always lose to the Niners it's just like this weird thing but when the Rams have lost this year they've lost really bad they've lost control they don't look like themselves at all they completely

take their hand off the wheel it's like me on Fridays after TNF at the airport I just like completely I'm a disaster and that's how I like it but I don't like seeing my Rams that way yeah I can understand that and I mean whenever you're just kind of sleepwalking through life it's you can find some beautiful moments of clarity in there too so I'm sure Fridays are rather enlightening for you after you crush it on Thursday Night Football. And the early remarks out of the Stooges crew here in the Internet is, oh, the Rams are frontrunners. Whenever things go bad, they can't get there. How do you think they get past that?

And do you still think the Rams are going to be in contention at the end of the day? I think they are. This is just a blip in the matrix, just like the Cowboys-Broncos. Do you think the Rams find a way to not be like what you said you are on Fridays I think so I think that they will be able to find a way because come on we have seen them play at such a great level and it's a division game that they lost against the Niners you know how these division games can go sideways and yeah they lost to the Titans who are really good you were just talking about how great they have performed this year

with Mike Rabel doing his thing and keeping this team in check. But then also, they lost to the Cardinals, and that was another division game. So this is a team that, top to bottom, they're very good. And sure, we were all waiting for Odell Beckham Jr. and Vaughn Miller to come in in primetime and do their thing. It didn't happen. It was a little bit of a dud, but that's okay.

I'm not worried. I think it's going to get a little bit better. You know, primetime players make primetime plays in primetime games. And Odell Beckham Jr. plus 320 to score a dud. I mean, I just thought that was just a natural handout. A natural handout. It didn't happen. Do you, the Thursday night football games,

what access do you get to all the teams? And do you get a chance to hear players and coaches that hate Thursdays, love Thursdays? What is kind of the response that you get every single week dealing with Thursday night football? Pat, I don't know what you're talking about. Everybody loves Thursday night football. Yeah, of course, of course.

Everybody knows that it's never sloppy weird things don't happen everybody is well rested and refreshed and rejuvenated just like I am right now on the show but we do we get to talk to the players and obviously at the end of the show for our postgame show we have the star of the game on and they have just won so they feel great and they're like you know what no problem this was an awesome show this was an awesome game for us but yeah we hear a lot on Fridays from the losing team about it being a short week and then of course injuries kind of folded in there it's never great but for us it always works out well I mean even if the game seems terrible like was last week and with the Dolphins and the Ravens,

my God, I felt like the game never even started. But then once it did get going, it was perfect, and it paid off with Robert Hunt. Yeah, I agree. Robert Hunt with that touchdown. How about the refs? Okay, how about the refs letting the play go? All right, immediately illegal. Hey, probably blow it dead.

They let it go, and then they spot it wrong, and then they take it. I mean, that was just a comedy of errors, and I don't want you to get in trouble. You obviously work for NFL Network and do a lot of that. These refs, though, I mean, jeez Louise, Carl. Stink. They stink. I know. You know what?

It's tiring to watch, especially with the taunting calls. I'm with you. I will probably get in trouble. I'm in the middle of the newsroom, by the way, right now. Whoa, whoa, what's going on? We got any news? We got any news? Who's around?

Anybody cool? Is Michael over here? No, it's just like an empty – I'm in a glass case of emotion. There's nobody else here. So I feel like, though, at any point since I'm talking about the refs, that, like, this whole ceiling is just grabbing me. But my favorite thing from this past week, Pat, was – i don't know if you saw the dude the fan at the cowboys falcons game that was dressed up as a ref and he was just throwing flags

at falcons fans and blowing his whistle it was fantastic so shout out to that guy yeah i mean people dressing up as refs is never a compliment to the refs i don't think i don't think i've ever seen one but maybe we should change that right here, right now, so the roof doesn't fall on your head over there. That's in SoFi, right? That whole new studio is gorgeous, right? Oh, it's beautiful. I'm actually looking out the window right behind where the screen is at SoFi.

It's gorgeous. It looks like something from Marvel just kind of dropped into Los Angeles, just in the middle of this neighborhood in Inglewood. Yeah. Well, it's $6 billion or something like that. It used to be $2 billion, and then it ended up being like $6. That thing can't handle a rainstorm, though. So if it starts lightning, get your ass out of there, Colleen.

All right? I got you. No problem. Need you to be safe. This Thursday, what is it, Patriots-Falcons? Hell yeah. Yeah. Falcons just got ran out of a building,

and the Patriots seem to be getting hot. What are early indicators for you, Colleen, going into a beautiful Thursday night? Well, I'm really excited to see Mac Jones coming off a career day. He was so good this past week setting career highs in completion percentage, passing touchdowns, passer rating, whatever, you name it. Also, we found out he's a child model or he used to be. So I don't think he's modeling still, but you got to check out those photos because they're fantastic. Ramondre Stevenson also ran the ball so well. This Patriots team, they've been really playing

great complimentary football and that's been the key to their success. Their defense is playing better as well. And I'm just so sad for the falcons and matt ryan at this point he's making a hundred million dollars he could have been home so screw him yeah you're right you're right he's cool he's fine yeah he's trying he's moving too yeah he's arty smith down there is you know drawing up some success i guess they just ran into a dallas cowboys team that you know mike mccarthy did the anti-monkey butt, and they were ready to go after an ass-beating, which I assume will happen for the Rams and maybe the Buccaneers

this upcoming weekend. We're talking to Colleen Wolfe, host of Thursday Night Football kickoff show and then post-show? Is that an accurate description? Yes! Game day kickoff, the post-game show, the whole bit. You guys do well. I think it's good coverage. Steve Smith, he is

yeah i love any time he give me the camera which anytime that happens you know something amazing is about to happen the show when he calls for his single i mean listen steve not very opinionated he's pretty even-tempered he doesn't really like go out on a limb or anything like that oh my god i love whenever we talk about baker mayfield just like sit back relax i put the quarter in i let him go yeah well i'm sure baker isn't exactly thrilled about that but steve i mean it is absolutely wonderful go ahead ty colleen do you still have your ears to the ground in philly what's the temperature like there with sirianni? Because it seems like when they get beat,

everyone thinks he's a doofus who should get fired. And when they win, they say he's the second coming of Bill Walsh. So what's going on there? You seem like you know Philadelphia very well. Have you lived there before? Are you actually an Eagles fan? Because you might be, based on what you're saying. That's exactly what happens.

When they lose, it's terrible. The sky is falling. Nick Sirianni is talking about flowers growing in the ground and roots and how things really need to, you need to water. I don't even know what he's talking about half the time, but then when they win, all right, maybe this guy shouldn't be ran out of town. So at this point, coming off the win last week against the Broncos, right now it's a building block situation, and maybe they can sort of make some type of fake kind of run at this point.

Oh, plus 260! Hey, plus 260 to make the playoffs for the Eagles. I don't think they were ever out there. Are you from Philadelphia? Yeah, I'm actually from Delco. Are you really? Yeah. I knew it! I could tell right away. No, I'm not. No, no, no. I knew it. I could tell right away. No, I'm not. No, no, no, no.

I'm not. I'm not. Colleen, Colleen, he is a liar. Do not. I am sorry he did that. He is from John Wayne Gacy's Waterloo, Iowa. Hey, G knows your pants. Neither.

Come on. Yeah, I know. It's Dalsandros. All right, all right, all right. Dalsandros. Yeah, that's right. That's how it works. I know.

I know. Hey, by the way, he's got a good Sirianni as well. I mean, I'm sure Sirianni loves it. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Colleen, you mentioned talking to the players on Thursday. Will you get a chance to talk to Bill Belichick about his pregame outfits? And if not him, will you get a chance to talk to Steve Belichick and his tongue that just seems to only be outside his mouth during games?

Focused. Energetic. I don't understand what's going on with his facial expressions during games. Sometimes I wish there was a camera just trained on him, but then as soon as it pops on my screen, I'm like, no, no, no. I don't want to see that anymore. The fact, though, that we have been talking about Bill Belichick's wardrobe and his fashion style, like the past couple weeks,

I've seen a couple things with, you know, his sweatpants rolled up. He's got the jacket on. I don't know. He's making some changes around town, and I'm feeling it, guys. Oh, is it a midlife crisis? He's coaching for another 30, 40 years. Hell, yeah. You saw how Michael's at 75 on the Manning cast

and knows that he's not necessarily the epitome of health, but it looks like he's not slowing down at all. Bill Belichick's still squatting out there. You go ahead colin when steve smith did what he did talking about baker did joe thomas just sit there and take it or did he push back like what's it like on set when something like that happens well there's a lot of dynamics that are going on on set, but I would say that based on Joe's reaction, I'm not sure how much he disagrees. Whoa!

Joe is going to shoot me for that. No, I think that Joe is so loyal. He's so beloved in Cleveland. He is so ride or die. So he stands up for his boy Baker, but Steve will speak his mind no matter what. Yeah, Steve's awesome. I mean, I was sitting right next to Rex Ryan when he did something to Baker as well.

Oh, yeah, that's right. And I even felt a little bit like, oh, come on. That's a little rude, but Baker's about to get paid somewhere probably, hopefully, who knows. Colleen, I don't know what you make. I hope they give you more. You crush it, and we can't thank you enough for joining us. Thank you, guys.

I'm going to tear my sleeves off for you next time I see you as well. Respect. Ladies and gentlemen, Colleen Roth. Today's show is presented by Arby's. Just when you thought it couldn't get better than the real country style rib sandwich that was smoked low and slow in an East Texas

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coaches send out and it has a different vibe you know that's a little different they're they're trying to get you to run through a wall that's right and try to learn and be better and it is motivating i'll take the morning grump and i'll read the daily coach in the email and i'm like paise on lombardi with some good gobble ghoul here yeah the daily stoic though this is that uh this is a night before I go to bed. Kind of bring me down. Kind of a reminder as I go into La La Land. I get it now, yeah.

Dom Ross could be the next villain in the new Fast and Furious, though. Well, listen, if the family's coming together for Pablo, Dom Ross is going to be... Is Ram Dass? Ram Dass is dead. Ram Dass has died. Oh, yeah, this is the one. I believe that's Sun Tzu.

Yeah, anyways. Not a big reader. Daily Stoke is one that I could have. And I'm happy we all got to hear today's reading because one hour from now we'll begin Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, which will then move into Aaron Rodgers Book Club Tuesday, which is all about the intelligence of the human speaking in to the microphones during the show whenever Aaron Rodgers Tuesday is happening. One of those is the all-time

leading tackler for the Centerville Oaks in Centerville, Ohio. That's right. He's the all-time, by the way, legendary school. Oh, yeah. A lot of studs. Legendary. A long time. But even more so, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Damn! Super Bowl champion, but even more so, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Damn.

Super Bowl champion, college football national champion, Ryder Cup champion, father of 10. Ladies and gentlemen, from Ohio, don't hold it against them, A.J. Hall. Yeah! What's up, man? Hey, congrats on being from Philly, man. I knew your accent sounded weird, but now with a Philly accent,

I could tell that didn't hurt very much. Well, Colleen, you know, she was great. I could tell you weren't upset instantly when she started saying that. You know, I thought she was going to say her family was from Pittsburgh because that happens a lot. People are like, hey, you sound exactly like my family whenever we have holidays. They grew up in, insert name of town or hill, in Pittsburgh. That didn't happen at all.

She's like, oh, six and a half hours the other direction. But she was awesome. Hey, she was incredible. She is awesome. Yeah, she's great. That Thursday night football show, you know, Steve Smith just, he is electrified. Yeah. He came on the show and we told him, I think I told him,

hey, you got to be on Twitter. He doesn't even do Twitter or anything. He just shows up on that Thursday Night Football show, post-game and pre-show, and just goes. He is unbelievable. I really like that show that they got cooking. And she gave us a lot of great insight about Thursday Night Football and everything that we've kind of experienced. But it's nice to hear what is happening now.

And the conversation about what the fuck is going on with teams this year is one that we're not the only ones having. It sounds like Colleen Wolfe and the NFL Network people are talking about this. I assume this is happening in all the networks, in every single bar, every single house. What the hell do we know? We don't know shit about fuck with the NFL right now, AJ. I am colder than ice.

This guy, they're calling him Jared Goff. They're calling him Matthew Goffard after one bad night. Odell Beckham Jr., actual team cancer, people are saying on the internet. He shows up, they play their worst game. A team that hasn't won at home in a year wins their first game, and they also win the first game in four games. What happened to the Rams last night, and did you get a chance to watch the Manning cast how was the experience I mean yeah I absolutely

watched the Manning cast and you were correct they showed your tweet talking about Phil Phil was perfect I wanted Phil just to continue to ask questions all night I thought it was all the guests were actually very good but I think it's sometimes and not taking anything away from any of the guests they need to have less guests and just let Peyton and Eli go. That's what I want. Well, I agree with you. And we'll get to the game, I guess, here as we break down the Manning cast. As we break down the Manning cast.

But I agree with you because Peyton can't pay attention to the game as close enough. So he's doing this. If we get Peyton in the game and he's, oh, what are they doing? They've been doing that. That's whenever whenever when he gets pissed off about bad football i think that is what we all love now al michaels unbelievable like hey look i love al michaels he's 75 that dude's 70 terrible golfer he is 70 i'm terrible golfer as well at least he's entertaining with it you human piece of shit. He doesn't eat vegetables, I guess. I love Dal Michaels. Phil Mickelson, though,

going in there, like we're watching because Peyton's here and Eli are here. I think a little bit more, maybe setting them up to do more football stuff is good, but Phil understood that. I think Phil, I got a chance to DM with Lefty. No big deal. I was with my brother watching it, and he's like, man, he's actually asking real in-depth questions.

I'm like, well, yeah, Phil loves to gamble. I'm sure these are all gambling. All right, so next week when you're playing, Tom, or Peyton, when I'm betting on Tom who's losing, what is he looking at when I'm doing this whole thing? But remember, he taught me that whole front foot chip thing to make me a scratch golfer which is going to take 20 million dollars from you at some point which is incredibly

cool and i'm very very that's all it takes nobody he's never told anybody else that everybody he tells becomes a pro no offense everybody else you and i are not the same i am a martian okay when it comes to some of these types of things especially when it comes to the no-brain-having stuff, like golf, when you're trying not to think. That is where I am at my prime. When there's zero thinking, just naturally dumb idiot. I'm pretty good. And golf can become that, from what I've been told, especially when you're so confident with the goddamn wedge

and you can just make the ball dance on the green, which is what Phil Mickelson, the lefty, taught me. And he got dunked on last night by Peyton Tiger. Phil, hilarious because Peyton and Tiger are close friends. And we've always said Phil is the Powerade of golf. But he would have been Gatorade if Gatorade hadn't come around at the same exact time. But I didn't know how our relationship was. You know, I didn't know how me and Phil's relationship was, even though he helped me

win $20 million in the future from you. And he liked the tweet that I put out. So I sent a DM. I was like, hey, you crushed on there. And he responded and said, thanks. He finds it also fascinating to listen why people are the way they are. And I think that's exactly how I am. Like, that's why I'm pumped for this man in the arena tonight.

I think there's a lot of people like the people that are at the top. I want to know why and how. Like, how'd you do it? Because everybody else is trying to do that thing. That was good from Phil, like, curious, I think, trying to learn a little bit because that's what we're trying to get from Peyton and Eli, you know? Anybody that is curious, like, will, like,

all intelligent people are curious. They are. They ask questions. They want to know things. Phil does seem to be very intelligent. Peyton is super intelligent. You see Peyton bouncing questions back and forth. And I do love Eli going back at him and throwing little digs.

Oh, yeah, he'll call Peyton, like, after he says that they should punt the ball and stuff like that. I would not. They're going to try to draw him off sides. Even though they took a timeout, I think it's going to be a delay game or whatever. And then, boom, touchdown. It was – I enjoy boom touchdown. I enjoy

that show. I appreciate what they're doing for sports media too. That is not lost upon me that there might be some segments that maybe aren't exactly home runs and there are some that are pretty good but they are changing the game and the fact that Peyton and Tom is on social media

and Aaron, these are the goats, the stalwarts of the game, basically innovating. And I love that. I enjoy that. I'm a big, big fan of that in the sports media world. Let's talk about the game, though. Kyle Shanahan smacked McVay right in the mouth. Like, Kyle Shanahan, I guess, has done to McVay a lot.

They ran it right down their throats. I mean, right down. A lot of misdirection. You know, a lot of glitz, a lot of glamour, a lot of movement A lot of this, Jimmy Garoppolo If you're listening to Eli and Peyton Which you probably should do He missed a couple of the motions actually Because there were so many of the motions

I think Jimmy was actually supposed to send him in motion there He forgot, it was juice leading the way Chipping, they were doing a lot of Tosses inside Inside tosses Absolutelyipping. They were doing a lot of tosses inside. Inside tosses. Absolutely unbelievable what they were doing. Is this more on the Niners being great or the Rams stinking, AJ, in your eyes? I would put it more on the Niners just executing an awesome game plan last night.

Also, their defense can fly. Like when they're playing well, you see how fast those guys are. The linebackers, I love watching them. Their defense was very fun to watch last night, and I was a bit surprised that the Rams never found a way to get it going, but they're out physical. 49ers came out, and they beat them up, and that's why they won. Matthew Stafford's

getting crucified. Oh, yeah. He'll be fine, I think. Really? I think. You said, I think there. You said, I think there. Well, okay. Is this at all similar to how the Bucs stumbled a little bit early on last year with their quasi-super team? I agree. And then they had a bye week, and then they figured it out,

and they changed their offense. And it feels like they're going back to what they were doing before the bye week last year. Tampa, what the fuck are you doing? They had it figured out. They had it all figured out. Do you remember playoff Lenny? Yeah.

And Ronald Jones, and then the play action that came after that. Now they're out. They're without Gronk, and they're without A.B., and that is obviously massive. But they've gone away from what made – I mean, that's Tom Brady offense right there. Yeah, and he usually doesn't make the mistakes he made, like two interceptions in a game for Tom Brady. Yeah, one of them being bad.

Well, you don't play for as long as Tom Brady has played whenever those things happen, so obviously that's an anomaly. But for the Rams, without Robert Woods, a lot of people are asking, are they going to be able to get going? And I just assume so many superstars, so many big brains, they understand that the time is now. Maybe they'll be able to figure it out. But there's a lot of people saying, what if they don't?

And those people hate Matt Stafford, I think. I think those people hate Matthew Stafford. People are saying Carson Wentz better than Matthew Stafford right now, which, by the way, as a Colts fan, I love the internet saying that. I love the internet saying that. Carson, let's keep that thing going. I appreciate the hell out of what you've brought to the team in India or whatever, but

one bad game primetime, Matthew Stafford stinks crowd very, very loud. I hope for his sake that he does come back and ball out. I think how people evaluate players now, it's a week-by-week thing.

Like you're saying, okay, Carson Wentz better than Matt Stafford. Are you saying overall you would take Stafford or you would take him over Stafford right now? Or what are you saying? Because next week we know it could completely change. That's what the NFL is. Hey, it was like that when you were playing too, right? I mean.

Quarterbacks or teams? I don't remember as wild of upsets and things happening like this year where you expect teams to win and then they get blown out do the underdog stat real quick so we can get aj's uh shouldn't this happen last year during the covid year where you thought things would be messed up yeah but and then last year we all just assumed all the good teams since they have the same exact situation everybody has the same situation the good teams will be able to figure out how to be great or whatever this year nothing makes sense nothing and it has become pretty expensive on my account nothing makes sense which by the way i'm handing over the reins of the next super booster to to somebody else and i can't wait to see who's doing it might be aj might be tone or gumpy on the

hammer down cowboys all four of your bets then last night? Yeah, dude. Alright, I took it. Did I lose both of mine? Yes. But you still beat me. Almost got the over, though. Not really. It looked like it early on. I might get it. If the Rams could have figured anything out. It did, but that stat there is wild. This weekend,

9-5. Yeah, 9-5 against the spread underdogs this past weekend. 87-62-1. It's absurd. It's 17 games. They the spread underdogs this past weekend. 87-62-1. It's absurd. It's 17 games. They were big underdogs, too, though. Remember? The lines were huge.

Yeah, look at this. And this weekend, the lines are massive. There's an 11. There's a 10 and a half. There's multiple seven and a halves. I mean, there is. I don't think anybody has a clue what's going to happen. Now, somehow the sportsbooks continue to win.

I don't know how the fuck they know. Bullshit. books continue to win right i don't know how the fuck they know what do they know that we don't know i guess we have to start asking those questions but this season has been absurd and the cowboys i guess are a perfect depiction of that just a week ago teddy two gloves was all the way back the broncos maybe after von miller gets traitor gonna be able to rally and go on and run that roster. And then they just don't. They did not at all. And then Dallas went the complete opposite direction.

When are we going to figure it out, AJ? When do you think? Thanksgiving? Is that the? Playoffs maybe? I don't know. It might go into the playoffs where a team lays an egg as they're going into the playoffs or something the last couple weeks.

It's just odd how the Rams continue to just not get anything going offensively, I feel like, last night. Well, Robert Woods being out, number two weapon in a pass-heavy offense, out is a big deal. Now, we just assumed, right? And they did force feed Odell. Yeah. Just like Tom Brady did to Antonio Brown whenever he was a Patriot down in Miami

when Tom wanted a little bit more say on who his weapons were. They brought in Antonio Brown out of the Raiders because he had just left the Steelers to the Raiders, whenever he was a Patriot down in Miami when Tom wanted a little bit more say on who his weapons were. They brought in Antonio Brown out of the Raiders because he had just left the Steelers to the Raiders, celebrated. There was a lot of question marks going on in Antonio Brown's life at that time. It was not a great time, I don't think, for Antonio Brown, the human, as opposed to Antonio Brown, the player. Tom Brady threw him the ball seven straight times. Yep.

And that was a message to everybody. Like, hey, we are going to make this guy part of the offense. Also, I appreciate this guy being here. McVay and Stafford, first play, nobody else was getting looked at other than Odell Beckham Jr. I thought we were sitting pretty for the anytime touchdown. And then just a couple plays later, the punt happens for Matthew Stafford's right arm, and OBJ zigs instead of zags, which is what Matthew Stafford thinks.

And now everybody's saying OBJ is a cancer to the locker room of the team. Whoa. I mean, come on. That's what people are saying, AJ. I know. I know. Can we have a few more games at least before you try to claim this? That's what – no, you can't in this world.

And by the way, this is what the nfl would like right yeah is for this type of instant reaction after every single game even 10 weeks into an 18-week season it is it's hysteria at all times and to be clear i'm a part of it i ride that and i don't know i don't know what's going to happen i have have no fucking clue. The Colts are 1-4. The Colts are 1-4. Now they're one of the hottest teams in the entire NFL. Now they couldn't put away the goddamn Jags, and they lost to the Ravens and the Titans after a fourth quarter collapse.

So maybe they need to tighten up a little competitive stamina over there to keep the games going over there. But what we thought we knew at one time, we know nothing now in this league, and I guess that's why it's the greatest league on earth. To your point of all this happening and the underdogs and stuff like that, there's 12 teams in the AFC who have a winning record, which is absurd. And then in the NFC, the 15th-placed team is the Chicago Bears, and they're one game out of being the 7th-placed team.

They're done. It's absurd. Well, Bears currently weighed down. Yeah, they're one game out of being the seventh place. They're done. It's absurd. Well, Bears currently way down. Yeah, right down. 16 is the line. Yeah, 16. Very top-heavy in the NFC. Hell, yeah.

It's insane. It's wild, dude. And if you're a good team, I guess, like if you have a good roster and you've shown flashes of being great, the mission you have to be selling in your house is like, hey, we can go do this. We got it. Hey, we got the team here.

I don't know if you look around the NFL. There was undefeated seasons being talked about going in, and that is just not the case at all. There has to be so much hope and optimism in so many buildings that are normally probably gone at this point, AJ. Everyone, I feel like a lot of people said, oh, who's going to beat the Bucs? They're going undefeated. Who's going to beat the Chiefs?

People were saying they're both going undefeated. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that both going undefeated. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that has not happened at all. No. That's pretty difficult to go undefeated, especially when you're thinking 17 games. I don't know.

I've heard the pundits on TV say players and coaches, they're trying to pack it in for the long haul and almost conserve energy. And somehow in their brain, they're not putting it all out there because they do know they have 17 games. I don't know if that's actually a thing. But who knows? You tell me, AJ. You 17 games. I don't know if that's actually a thing, but who knows. You tell me, AJ.

You actually played. I don't think that's the case. So, for instance, the reason why I think that metaphor might make sense and that might go as a sellable option for what players are doing and maybe not playing their best is anybody that's ever been through a conditioning period knows that the number one question before the conditioning period is, hey, what got what do we got and you i was very lucky that i would always go in the afternoon workouts it was hotter than in the summer you're in the afternoon

but at least you know what you're getting because the morning crew already went through blind they were christopher columbus going in there they had no clue what that makes a big difference too it's a huge it's a huge thing if you just know what your final number is. Oh, my God. I need that final. I cannot not have that final number because just like what they're talking about, I am storing. I am.

I'm coming through. If this is 12 seconds, I'm coming in 11 and a half every single time because I have to do that to make it through. But those, you know, the trailblazers in the morning that just go in there blind. I didn't, I was so befuddled by these humans. Like, can you not go in the afternoon? Oh, it's too hot.

Okay. It's hot anyways. But you're going in there. You might run 20 hundreds today. I don't even know how you sleep the night before that. So I could see how people potentially think you store energy for a long haul.

Like, I completely get that. But there's no way that guys are going into games going, you know what, today? Only going to hit with my left arm because I got to get through. We're only going to finish some plays. Like, that can't actually happen, can it, AJ? You would know a lot better than me. That can't actually happen or take place, right? No, I think once you start the game, it's a game. There's's no you can't half-ass football like you'll get killed so that's the

thing you may be in practice though maybe your preparation is maybe guys it's their lacks because they feel like they have more time they got to find you know i gotta take care of my body i'm not gonna get as many reps and during the week maybe that's a thing but i i still don't see it being a huge deal you're saying a couple more G days taking place, you know? Maybe. I mean, that's up to the coaches, though, if you want to allow that. It's wild. I just don't know how people would be conserving energy,

but I can see how the long season will affect. And Tom Brady had a quote on Let's Go. He was like, guys struggle to get to 16 games, like a lot of guys. And if you're not in the locker room and you don't know all of the players, like there's been how many guys on the Titans? 90? 80.

There's been 80 active players thus far on the Tennessee Titans. I would like to go ask any random fan, any random Tennessee Titan fan, hey, start naming players

that play for the Titans. You're going to get through 15, 20, maybe a great, great fan, 25 of them. The amount of people that come to the team and are special teamers, 20, maybe a great, great fan, 25 of them. The amount of people that come to the team and are special teamers, get hurt, roll your ankle, they end up on IR,

you don't even really hear or they get cut or a medical agreement is set. I mean, it is the amount of people that don't make it 16 games. The only time you find out about it is when it's superstars, and that's basically what Tom Brady was saying. Hey, a lot of people can't even make it through 16. It is a struggle to get there, And then playoff games are just like, how do we tape the car back together to get through this game where it's win or go home?

And then for the next week, let's do it again. Here we go. I don't know if people are prepping for that in-game situations, but I can see how the long season will affect things. I just don't know if – I don't know how people would do that, especially in a game where you can get got bad. You can get actively conserve energy.

Again, a game or even practice. I don't know. And if your coach thinks you're not practicing as hard as you normally would, then obviously that's on the coach. What is it? You're either coaching or you're allowing it. Is that JB? Yeah, Coach. You're fucking allowing it. Goddamn right. That's a great point. I try to think about that. I'm like, man, that's a good point.

You got to really stay on these guys. When did he say that? Oh, whenever you're coaching your daughter's basketball team? Uh-huh. We slapped the fucking floor. Now. All right? When you don't slap the floor, that means you don't have zero respect for anything I'm saying.

We're slapping the floor. I will not allow you not to slap the floor. You got slapped? We slapping? Yeah, we actually haven't worked on any basketball, just because I'm working on that with little stupid things like that. Hey, don't drop the ball when I'm speaking. So they just run suicides the whole time.

Smart. Smart. And tell their shoes to stop squeaking. Yeah. Trying to coach you. Got to crawl before you can walk. Hey, real quick, though. The Tom Brady thing looks awesome, looks amazing.

Watch the whole trailer and all that. I can't wait. Who was that person on the ad, on the actual final screen when they pop up? Is that Tom Brady? I thought that was like when they put a commercial or a movie together and it's just bland human. I thought that's what it was, you know, because there's no logos on the jersey, obviously.

Nope. None at all on the jersey. But you're right the photo i was also like oh did they try to draw him did they try to make it like a movie is this video footage was so good it was put together so well and then this popped up like oh no this like takes credibility away from is it a motion graphic are they trying to make like a movie is it really an ft maybe that's tom maybe it is tom's nf we get that it is we know that that that's supposed to be tom no that is tom can you zoom in a little bit on that z can we please

that's him i don't know that does kind of almost look like a cgi rendering that's what did they not cartoon him a little bit if they cartooned him they would have left the butt chin out for sure it's still there right there you can see see it. Jeez, what is your deal? I'm just saying, that's the telltale sign. No, they know that's his calling card. They can't take that out. I don't know if my eyes are googly enough. It was fascinating, though, that this was the decision for the

cover, and I do appreciate that that is the only thing that stuck with you for the entire thing. The cover's terrible. It's distracting. I don't want to watch it. It kind of reminds me of the Hernandez doc when they for the entire thing. The cover's terrible. It's distracting. I don't want to watch it. It kind of reminds me of the Hernandez doc when they had the motion photos. That's what it reminds me of.

The motion photos and the background stays still with the motion. That's what that reminds me of. This is moving. That's probably a big part of the intro. That just took the screenshot from it. Maybe. I'm excited. Good eye. Good job, Z. Top 10 tight end by the way on the field off field wait are we talking about top 10. yeah

yeah that's what we're talking about algae chrome poor oh he was a baller he used to mall folks oh yeah dirty bird legend He used to maul folks. Dirty Bird. What's that? Algernon. That's his name? Oh, yeah.

Let's go, Algernon. We're not talking about Algernon. Those Hernandez documentaries, I think there's another one coming out. Either that or they're reshuffling. They're pushing it back up on Netflix because I'm seeing it on its own bar now. But I think it's the same doc. It is the one that we watched? I think so. You don't believe what that had to have.

That that was real. It's the guy in the kitchen? Yeah. Cooking bacon. Making bacon in his underwear. Who is that? You know. I'm painting Bob Ross paintings.

Yeah. It was the friend's dad. The friend's dad. Cooking bacon. Oh, that moved in you mean yeah yeah yeah yeah that's it it's oh man that gets depressing that whole story everything about very hey you want to hear another story that is why i mean it's definitely depressing for somebody wild stories and sports that'll be made into movies and talked about forever like that can't wait to see man in the arena for much different reasons, obviously.

Have you heard the update on this PSG women's soccer scandal? Unbelievable. Do you remember we reported? Oh, the girl that, the Tanya Harding situation. Whoa! That's so fast, my friend. Allegedly, initial reports of a Tanya Harding situation, a hire to remove starters so i can rise to super

stardom and become my is allegedly at this point more information has unfolded all fabricated this was not the back of a shifty deal no well so we don't know if she's involved or not but new information points to eric abadal's wife being the one responsible for ordering the attack on PSG footballer Kira Hamraou. Nailed it. It was allegedly revenge for sleeping with Abidal while he was Bartha's sporting director and Hamraou played for Bartha. Wow. director and ham raul played for bartha wow so this was not the backup trying to become the starter which was initially reported and we fabricated or fabricated now it's allegedly a little bit of a a little bit uh fuck me no fuck you how did this get out then how did the

tanya harding situation get out because i think that was just automatically assumed they uh they brought in so she was in the car with the girl who they initially said was the one who did the attack. So they brought her in for questioning and I think detained her because I saw a quote from her. And she basically said, like, I have no idea why I'm here. I had nothing to do with this. The other lady did galooly her, but her teammate who was involved initially, she went into the police station every single day and was detained and had nothing to do with it.

So this gets, the plot thickens. And this might have been ten years ago. Who knows how long ago this was when Abidal slept with... We don't know. We'll keep an eye on this. But I know movies are going to be made about this entire situation. When are people going to learn you can't dip your pen in a company ink?

I've never heard that. Well, he comes from the corporate. He comes from the corporate. Well, he was a cube monkey there for a long time. It's gospel where I come from. Yeah. The way it happened, too, they dragged this girl out of her car and, like, started hitting her with a lead pipe.

So the wife was very frustrated. frustrated wait did the wife do it this wife hired somebody hired hired and this is years later i think right what did they did they like beat her with a bat honestly yeah metal pipes they dragged her out of the car in front of the backup who was detained yes for doing this whole thing so think about the backup it's like oh my god oh my god And then all of a sudden you're arrested. You're in jail in Paris for it. It's like, what the fuck? The wife probably floated that out there.

I would imagine the wife would say, it was her. And they like searched through Abidal's phone and he had or called her or received a call from her that morning before the attack. See, this is like Cam Newton saying that you couldn't make up a lie this good.

This is the type of stuff that as soon as you see it, it's like, how is this real life? Yeah. Just like the hernia. Like, how is that a real thing that's going on? How does he have enough time? Oh, that's the friend's dad. Yeah, yeah. He got promos for three hours.

Yeah. Let's go to 500. Quarterback kid, right? Yeah. Mr friend's dad. Yeah, yeah. He got promos for three hours. Yeah. Let's go to 5RNG. The quarterback kid, right? Yeah, that's right. Mr. Sansusi. Yeah, Sansusi. That is Sansusi. There it is.

Gobble gool. Gobble gool. Let's go to the phones here. Let's go to Chris in Connecticut, 5RNG phone line. What's going on, Chris? Speaking of. How's it going, Pat, AJ, and the boys? Hey, things are going good, dude.

How are you? I'm pretty good. I want to talk about what Connor tweeted last night. He said the Chiefs stole the Rams' mojo. That's incorrect. The Titans exposed the Rams, and the Chiefs got their mojo back because Jackson Mahomes was not on the sidelines. Okay, Chris, a lot of similar thoughts in this office alongside.

The Jackson Mahomes keep his ass in Arizona yep we're gonna play in Las Vegas experiment was successful big time seems like that is something maybe keep doing so the football gods continue to bless you with what you had always been which is a dominant electrifying football player uh football gods are still going through an initiation process with old Jackson Mahomes. They're still gathering intel on Jackson Mahomes. They're still trying to figure out whether or not old buddy still deserves to be blessed

with old tick-tocking on Sean Taylor's number, Jackson Mahomes. Yeah, it was the last straw. That's potentially what is happening. I'm not saying that that is definitely the case. It's not in the Daily Stoic. But it is something that should be talked about and acknowledged as potentially being real. Is there any way that we can petition the NFL office? You know how they have to put out the injury designations like an hour before the game.

We have to know if Jackson's attending the game or not. Because if he is, you can't bet on the Chiefs. And if he's not, hammer the Chiefs. Hammer them. Here we go. All of a sudden, those 15-second-long plays are cashing in. That's right. All of a sudden, Patrick Mahomes is stepping up in the pocket

a little bit more comfortable and confident. All of a sudden, they're checking the ball down. It's like, wait a minute. How did the football gods not just go, bless you, son? Because, though, Jackson, is that what seems to be happening? He's a very different person I don't think that should go untalked about

so shout out to Chris AJ Hawk I mean so I don't think we've seen the last of Jackson Mahomes at games no come on

he'll be there someday the dude's an international superstar on there you think he's gonna stop we know it's all about consistency in that game X Factor went to the Raiders okay

I wonder. Huh? He's officially, he moved? He moved officially? Well, there was a new man in underwear at the Chiefs game this weekend looking like a superhero who people thought was potentially a repackaged X-Factor. I'm not sure that was the case. I zoomed in.

I did not see as much similarity as everything else. But if Jackson is held out of the Chiefs fan base until further notice, I don't think anybody would hold it against him. I don't think anybody would hold it against him. It's the best for the team. I don't think there's anybody on his side, is there? No.

Can't be. The people that follow him, I'm guessing, are on his side. Are they? I don't know. The other super fans turned down him. I know that. A lot of young kids that don't care about football, though, I think, that follow him, I'm guessing, are on his side. Are they? I don't know. The other super fans turned on him. I know that. A lot of young kids that don't care about football, though, I think, that follow him. All the super fans turned on Jackson Mahomes?

Yeah. The X Factor and Red Xtreme and them? Red Xtreme, yeah. Before X Factor was. And then they led the pack. They said, hey, Jackson came through. The Jets guy. The Jets guy turned on him.

Fireman Ed? Yeah. He's dead. Oh. That's what he does, I think. Didn't he? J-E-T-S. Jess.

Jess. Jess. Oh. Isn't that what he does? Oh, yeah. I'm trying to remember. Because I think he was there one of the games I was there. And then he was retired for one of the games.

I wasn't. So I don't remember which one it was, but I think that's what it was. What were you going to say, Gumpy, about old Fireman Ed? I just thought he quit on the team for a few years. Well, he did. He's fed up. He did. Fireman Ed said, I can't even go to the fucking firehouse

without being asked about this sorry sap of an organization. I'm just trying to save lives out here. I run towards fires instead of away from fires, and all I'm being asked about is the dumpster fire that is run by fucking Woody Johnson. I'm done with it. You guys put me on national television every single time there's a primetime game.

Let's go find Fireman Egg. You have made me the pseudo mascot of this fucking team. I would like a little bit better say when we're choosing to run the ball, when we're choosing to throw the ball, who we're deciding to run the team, I would like a little bit better say when we're choosing to run the ball, when we're choosing to throw the ball, who we're deciding to run the team. I would like a little bit more say. And they said, excuse me, Fireman Ed, go fight fire and stay the fuck out of here. He said, I'm not coming back ever again.

It's nice to see he is back on good terms with the Jets, but I can see how Fireman Ed was potentially fed up with the bullshits out there. Yeah, he was done for a while. I do believe Dave Sala, Bob's brother, was the one who ended up bringing him back. Okay, this is awesome. Wait, really? We're not going to talk about this. I think one of Bob Sala's brothers is a fireman,

or was something in the, whatever the case. But there is a Bob Sala brother in the news right now, and I fucking love it rex ryan talking about jets head coach bob sala says uh basically that he stinks right yeah yeah he's basically saying stop comparing him to me be we are two very different coaches different records different everything different energy that's kind of what rex ryan said davala, who is the brother of Bob Sala, we did our Twitter research. These two, David and Bob Sala, had sat down with the future owner of the Jets, Gary V.

Both liked the tweet. Both were added in the tweet. So this is Bob Sala's brother, David Sala, saying, Rex Ryan took over a good man genie roster. He won with it the first two years and lost with his own roster every year after. The only person making comparisons is you, Rex, in an effort to stay relevant. Stick to podiatry and eating cheeseburgers. Oh, my God.

Hey, this is off the top rope. I mean, they're all the way up. This is Dave Sala in the Sala family. This motherfucker, Rex. Enough of this. We never see this happen, especially with head coaches in the NFL, ever clapping back at any media members. And Dave Sala said, I'll fucking do this.

Hey, Rex, fuck off, pal. I love it. I enjoy it. Bob Sala yesterday said he knows where my office is. He wants to come down. He can fucking run into the Sala buzzsaw as well. But I will say this. Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan,

Ryan family, they grew up playing hockey. That is a fight I'd like to see Triller put together. Rex and Rob, Bob and Dave. Wow. Put that thing in there. I want to see it. But I like that this is happening.

I enjoy people saying, hey, fuck you. I like that a lot, that Dave's sticking up for him. I assume Rex enjoys this as well as somebody who loves the give and take. What a moment, though. I'm surprised it's taken this long for somebody's brother to dunk on somebody so hard publicly. Well, the funny thing is, so Rex went on some other radio show and made those comments about Sala, not on his ESPN show that he had on the morning,

and then Sala responded. Now Dave responds to Rex, and I love that he puts the podiatry joke in there, too. He's got to always slip something in about the feet. Well, as soon as I read it, I knew that was going to be the only thing you take out of that i thought it was a it was yeah it was worded very well i i thought by the way i think the fact that he said that even more so is why i love it so much like hey that is a real that's not like

oh you're coaching stinks you know that's like uh stick to eating if you want to get into this pile pal, we can get into this. 240 characters at a time. Hey, Dave Sala doesn't fuck around. He's about that action. I love Rex Ryan. That's why I think I love this so much. ESPN should love this because aren't they going to meet up at the Super Bowl probably

when old Bob is coming on the show? Oh, this is like the Baker Super Bowl. Where Baker passive-aggressively just littered the interview and conversation with so many things that got – I assume Dave Sala would do the same. But whatever the case, the Jets do seem to be dead again. Yeah, Mike White, good run. He should have been first overall. That's right.

He might still be a guy. You don't know. You can't say that and throw four picks, though, right after it. That's what I'm saying. The way it was being handled, I just found it not necessarily out of pocket, but close. Close. One game, one drive, which was incredible.

Both of those. Game and drive, absolutely incredible. I saw it firsthand at the Colts game. But the way it was being talked about in New York is like, we got a guy, he's our savior. His name's getting chanted in the locker room. And then because it took over an entire three-week span, I think the amount of hype that got behind it was huge.

And then him kind of adding to it, I was like, holy shit, I didn't expect this. And I actually liked his moxie. I'm like, okay, I like this going to happen. But I feel like he's going to run into the same problems that potentially every quarterback does whenever they're trying to learn the nfl yeah i mean i think it it almost isn't his fault but the entire situation got gassed up to like a point where right yeah and then you know he's like okay maybe i am that fucking dude i should have been well he has to believe that he is exactly exactly but i think he probably did just

you know get a little too big for his britches. A lot of talk about the Jets on this particular day, and that's because Dave Sala, if he's going to continue to dunk on media, folks, I love it. Hell yeah. I just don't want to accidentally say something bad about the Jets and Bob Sala here, and then I'm on receiving end of a Dave Sala. We've always been big Bob Sala fans.

We know he's a savage to the entire organization. Stinks. St entire organization stinks. Yes. Not his fault. No, we want Bob to be Bob, actually. I feel like that's always been a message. It was only once. The thing about Bob, spelled the same way forward as it is backwards.

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