The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 543 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 11 Recap, Frank Gore, Darius Butler, Shams Charania, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 22, 2021

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 11 of the NFL season, which team's might stink and which teams are contenders, if the Packers should be worried about Aaron Rodgers' toe situation, the Colts turning into an absolute wagon behind Jonathan Taylor and rounding into one of the best teams in the NFL, if the Chiefs are back, what to think about the Cowboys dismal performance against Kansas City, and everything else that happened this week in the NFL. Joining the program is the 3rd leading rusher in the history of the NFL, 5x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, future Hall of Famer, member of the 2010's All-Decade team, Frank Gore. Pat, Frank, and AJ chat about his NFL career, his upcoming boxing match against Deron Williams, the different teams and locker rooms he played in, if he misses playing football, and why he might not necessarily be retired yet (37:25-51:15). Next, Darius Butler joins Pat and AJ Hawk to overreact to everything that happened this weekend, what he thinks the Seahawks are going to do moving forward, Cam's return to Carolina, Herbert being his leading MVP candidate, who stinks, and much more (1:05:22-1:26:57). Later, NBA Insider for Stadium and The Athletic, Shams Charania joins the show to break some news, chat about the LeBron Malice In The Palace situation, whether or not Ben Simmons is going to play this year, and he gives a Zion update (1:28:07-1:44:35). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up, everybody? It is Overreaction Monday, November 22nd. Pat had to run right after the show, but we got a good one today. Reaction to the entire Week 11 NFL slate, plus Frank Gore, plus Frank Gore and Darius Butler. Joined Pat and AJ Hawk to overreact to everything. And Sham Sharanya stops by to give an update on what's going on in the NBA. It's a good one. Let's get to it. Week 11 is almost through. We just got done with an incredible slate of games yesterday.

Hell yeah. Where we learned a lot of things, didn't we? Oh, yeah. I was watching those games from a closet in the Barclays Center in Brooklyn on a laptop and a TV that was speaking Spanish to me. The only game I couldn't see with the DirecTV package on the laptop and the TV that was showing the Packers-Vikings game

in Spanish on Fox was the Colts-Bills game because obviously the Jets were playing. So, shout out to Nick sent me an illegal stream of the game. That was the first time I ever did that. That's not too bad. I don't know how that's allowed.

I don't know how that's allowed. It was not. No, I'm just saying I don't know how that happens. I mean, that was a very enjoyable experience. I would never do

it again, obviously. I am a, listen, although I might be considered a pirate of some sort in the way this life has gone, I will not pirate

other people's stuff, especially the NFL. But how the fuck can I not see the Colts-Bills game when I'm paying that much money to DirecTV to log in online and then all of a sudden it's blacked out here. Well, it's not blacked out here because I can't watch it here because the Jets are on. And the Jets are losing to the Dolphins. Of course.

So legal stream that thing. Whatever. We learned a lot yesterday. And then what did we find out? Oh, we still know nothing. Who's back? Who's dead the cowboys are on a seesaw the chiefs maybe they're back but once again is it the cowboys or is it the chiefs how about the steelers and ben roethlisberger on sunday night football got a chance to watch that

game on a flight back from teeterborough new jersey here to Indianapolis, Indiana, that left at about, I don't know, 1230 in the morning. Jeez. Long Survivor Series last night. Oh, yeah. Diesel. I mean, that was a long, I did not expect that. Had to tell the pilots, hey, going to be a little bit. Sorry.

Hey, going to be a little bit. Hey, sorry, it's going to be, I didn't expect this either. I'm not even sitting down for a match yet. I'm currently sitting in the crowd talking to the beautiful people in the Barclays Center. I mean, it was absolutely magical. A long night. Watch that game on the flight back, though. Had it downloaded.

Had the device ready to go. That game was boring early. Oh, my God. It was ugly. The Chargers all the way back. Here we go. Then Ben Roethlisberger. Shows that he ain't dead. It was ugly. The Chargers all the way back. Here we go. Then Ben Roethlisberger. Shows that he ain't dead.

The calls for his demise and immediate departure came way too soon. Oh, yeah. Because fresh out of his COVID cave, literally walking into the stadium like he just got out of the hospital. His outfit and everything. He just literally looked like he was just rolling in out of the hospital. He looked a little thinner, obviously. A little isolation probably reset his mind. He was slinging it. Looked the best he's looked. He's looked the best

he's looked. That fourth quarter got electrifying there very quickly. Justin Herbert is an absolute superstar. Very good. A stud. They were on a little bit of a schneid there. Brandon Staley, rookie head coach. We said, how's this guy going to handle it? How's the introvert Justin Herbert going to handle this? They seem to have that thing turned around.

He is a monster. Rex Ryan was on Get Up this morning. I have a lot of respect for Rex Ryan talking about the NFL. I mean, you guys can say what you want about Rex Ryan. Let your jokes fly. Rex Ryan this morning said he's the best quarterback in the NFL. And they said, why? Green said, why is that, Rex?

And Rex said, who's the best quarterback in the fourth quarter? Justin Herbert. Who's the – and then in the third quarter, he says he's the number two quarterback in the third quarter. So it's like in the third and fourth quarter when a game matters, in Rex Ryan's eyes, he is the best quarterback, whatever. Last night, fourth quarter, looked like old Roethlisberger was back in. Oh, he's right.

But Justin Herbert answered that team might be all the way back. Austin Eckler scores four touchdowns. Way to go. Austin Eckler actually scored 41 points for himself in fantasy. Wow. That was awesome to hear a player say, yeah, actually I fucking won. Here and in that

fantasy league because of me. He's probably dunking on people saying, I just did that to you. Fuck you, Whatever the case. And that would be the big story of the weekend. Lamar Jackson out. Oh, no. What's going on with Lamar Jackson? He was practicing.

Then he's gone again. And then they said he's curled up in a ball on the plane over there. And Darius Butler tweeted this, who we'll be talking to in the third hour today. He said as soon as he saw that walk, as soon as we saw Lamar Jackson walk into that stadium, there was a little bit of a limp, obviously some discomfort, head down, shoulders seemed to be a little bit lower. That guy isn't playing at all. Huntley's going to come in. He's going to play against the Bears.

Bears are going to win. Of course. Bears are going to win that game. Fields. Yeah. No, Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson. Kidding me?

No, they're definitely going to. They didn't. No, come on. No, the Bears lost. Maybe Huntley's Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson. No, they're definitely good. They did. No, come on. No, the Bears lost. Maybe Huntley's the next guy. He might be. With a dry draft coming up for quarterbacks, and I guess a veteran free agency period that's going to go great.

Maybe Huntley is going to be a guy that's going to draw some interest from teams that need a quarterback. Or maybe, hey, the Bears stink. Dead in the water. Oh, my. Andy Dalton. Andy was slick. Andy dropped an absolute dime, okay?

In Justin Fields, there's been sparks of greatness or whatever, but Khalil Mack is a city. I mean, it's blowing up. In Justin Fields as a rookie, what's going to happen? If you can't get a win against that Baltimore team out of nowhere, I mean, maybe Huntley's the guy. I might be completely wrong, but Baltimore Ravens is still a good team. Let's not get crazy.

There has to be a team around that. But that's a tough loss for the Bears, and maybe that's a story. But the story after Week 11 Sunday, and I'm not saying this just strictly because I was grossly overpaid by this team. Sure. I'm not saying this out of the bias that the money that was given to me from that particular place literally built this office and everything that's going on.

You know what I mean? I'm not saying that because the man who owns that team has literally just said, Hey, Pat, you need my G75? Yeah. Just go ahead and have a bite. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is the Colts are a fucking wagon right now.

That's right. And the reason why is because they found their identity in their identity. And although Two Springs is going to make a play or two, and I appreciate him for doing that, and I think his energy is great for the team, and his aura is fantastic. You talk to anybody that's in that building, they're like,

hey, when Carson's around you know like it you like you feel the Carson Wentz effect that's why when it got ugly in Philadelphia I assume it was very uncomfortable because normally Carson's a a big energy guy Jonathan Taylor's the fucking MVP unbelievable he gets introduced last at games it's his second year Carson Wentz is the quarterback. We went to the game against the Jets. Prime time. Offense got introduced. Big Quentin Nelson, big pop.

Jack Doyle from Indianapolis, been around a long time, big pop. T.Y. Hilton wasn't playing. He probably would have won out last. It would have been a big one. But nonetheless, Carson Wentz won out. I thought it was over. No, no. Jonathan Taylor comes out last.

And all of Indianapolis goes bananas because as soon as we started seeing this animal, this freak show, this beast who got accepted into Harvard. Whoa. Track guy fast. Incredibly tough. Is not scared to run motherfuckers over. Like, and Joyce, as soon as we saw him start to get the lion's share of the ball, this earlier this season,

because last year it was running back by committee. Jonathan Taylor was there, and there was big, I mean, there was moments that were happening, but then Naeem Hines would get in there, and he would do his thing. Marlon Mack would be in there. And then there was a guy named Wilkins that would get in there, and it was kind of running back by committee.

Phillip Rivers threw the ball to the tight end a lot. They ran the ball, got to the playoffs. Defense was good. How you doing? Keep it moving. What are we doing this year? Then all of a sudden, Marlon Mack's up for trade. Jonathan Taylor's going to start getting the ball because we drafted him high,

and we've seen that he's – and he is the guy. Yeah. Whenever they feed him, he has less touches than Derrick Henry, by the way, although Derrick Henry has played three less games at this point than uh old jt jonathan taylor um he's un-fucking-believable so good five touchdowns yesterday okay now we can talk about odom and the defense making josh allen look very amateur yesterday i i don't know what's going on with the buffalo bills they seem to be on a little bit of a seesaw. Come and go.

How you doing? Keep it moving. One week to the next, you don't know what's going to happen. But is that because them playing against the Colts? And the Colts are very hot right now. Everything is running through that offensive line and Jonathan Taylor. And Carson Wentz is very capable with a great play action to make a lot of plays to whoever he has to. Found T.Y. early yesterday.

I like that that's building. The Colts right now and the Patriots are the two teams. Now, the Chiefs could come back. We will see if they're all the way back. We know they're going to be in it late. The Chiefs, with all the talent and the history and everything, we know they're going to be in it late. And we're week 11 right now of an 18-week season,

so there's still a lot to be figured out. We know the Chiefs will be there. But right now, it feels like the Colts and the Pats are the two hottest teams at Boston Conner sitting here. The Colts are unstoppable. Very good. Rex Ryan said this morning, and I thought it was good analysis. Nice.

Rexy. Well, I almost said dialysis, but it's not. It's the same thing, right? No, because I was going to say diagnosis. There you go. But it was analysis on the football team that is the Buffalo Bills. He said that, hey, it feels like when the Bills have to play a finesse team, they're okay and they're good. But whenever they have to play a team, a bruising team, like the Pats,

like the Colts, like the Ravens. I mean, those are three AFC teams there that are probably going to be around in the end, even if they're winning games without Lamar. The Titans, I mean. Titans lost to the Texans. That's also very big news. Because the Titans were, huh? Then Derrick Henry, and then they're still, huh?

And they're doing very, very well. And I'm like, Mike Vrabes might be the coach of eternity. Yeah, absolutely. With what he's able to do, win games. They have the most people on IR and everything they're going. But right now in the AFC South, the Colts are just full. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

And it feels like you're naturally going to potentially fall off whenever you lose an MVP candidate that's a running back like Derrick Henry, who was 85 or 75, one or the other, percent of their offense. Yep. So you're going to fall off. And they get that win the week afterwards, which is insane. And they sign Adrian Peterson, who I have the utmost respect for. But it just feels like the Titans may be, because of a devastating injury,

to the most important position on their team, which is going to happen. And you try to get depth. But how can you get depth for Derrick Henry? There's only fucking one of them. So I feel like they're going down. Colts are going up. Big time. Big time big time how long there's another seven weeks in this season and then the real football starts to matter and you talk about the patriots who are also incredibly hot they're sitting at third right now in the afc seven and four they say hey as we get later in the

season this is when the games matter as things change they stay the same connor it's going to be patriots colts at some point in the playoffs and i can't wait for that fucking day yeah it's going to be an absolute bloodbath pat and you know the bills they stink just like the titans do and the best parts about the pats and the colts they got the defense they got the run game both things that travel it doesn't really matter where you play obviously right now the pats are looking at the one seed basically because tennessee is actually coming to town next week to play the Patriots. So, I mean, there's a lot of very important football these next five weeks. And then, obviously, both the Pats and the Colts off a bye playing here in Indy.

I mean, the season's heating up. It is electric. And who is cooling off? Is it the Green Bay Packers? Oh, no. cooling off. Is it the Green Bay Packers? No! At Ty Schmitz in here, an owner

of the Green Bay Packers. And Ty, we learned this last week as a shareholder of the owner of the Packers. You are not allowed to say anything disparaging about the NFL or Roger Goodell can fine you. Even if you have a $35 investment in the Packers

or a $1,000 investment in the Packers, Roger Goodell can fine you. Even if you have a $35 investment in the Packers or a $1,000 investment in the Packers, Roger Goodell can find you $500,000. That's right. With that in mind, your thoughts on how the Green Bay Packers yesterday, I mean, Aaron made some throws late, started out a little bit rough. The toe seems

to be a real thing. We made an entire hashtag mocking the toe. What happened to the toe? Now we're learning this seems like a real deal. What the fuck happened? We'll ask him more. I don't know if he's going to give us an answer. He didn't last week.

What happened to the toe? I guess we'll find out. But Kirk Cousins and the Vikings at home. Justin Jefferson, Thielen, that defense. I mean, you're talking about Kirk Cousins slinging it. Yes. What a game for the Vikings yesterday. Absolutely.

Primetime Kirk Cousins. Justin Jefferson. Kirk Cousins' balls float in the air for fucking 45 seconds. It's amazing how. You should have thrown five interceptions yesterday, but it's just amazing. Well, one for certain. Yeah, exactly.

I mean, one for certain. Exactly. But they just. Savage, what happened? There's a ball. Yeah, exactly. I mean, one for certain. Exactly. But they just – Savage, what happened? There's the ball. Stay in box. Listen, not only that, just catch the ball, finish the catch. Well, and he had one earlier that was kind of on a Mickey.

I mean, helmet to helmet, but when you slow down, it's a lot easier to call that. They just – they can't – all three phases can't play good at the same time. That's kind of what it is. I mean, we've been sucking off their defense for the last four weeks saying you know these guys are the best ever and then we played a divisional game on the road and you know they look like i mean justin jefferson had over 100 yards receiving in the first quarter the offense didn't look good in the first half but i think the big takeaway is that you could see they started to kind of get into a little bit of a groove in that second half rogers we talked about it before the show, like he flipped the switch.

It's like, okay, I mean, we're not going to get fucking blown out here. Like we need to start putting some points on the board. And when he kind of flipped that switch, you could tell, like it did look different. Their offense looked much different. 23-10 third quarter. I forget how much time, but I wrote it down in the notes. Because he threw it to Devontae twice on that drive,

and then he ran one, and then he ended up throwing a touchdown. There was a pass interference, I think, or something that got him down there, but whatever. That drive, his first pass to Devontae, it looked like he – it was a different just like vibe to it. Yeah. And it looked like he was like, okay, here we go. Now we got to play because it didn't look great.

There were some passes he missed that he doesn't normally – there was a couple decisions that were made that were kind of like late decisions that he wouldn't normally make. So I think we're all wondering what was going on. And then, boom, they got going. And I thought we all saw this movie before. And I think Vikings fans knew it, too. I think Vikings fans were even thinking, oh, here we fucking go.

Dalvin Cook actually said, I went down on the one thing because I couldn't give the ball back to Aaron Rodgers. Everybody knew who was on the other sideline, and I think that drive with Devontae and then the touchdown, all of Minnesota potentially took a break from the... Those things. And then... They were like...

Then he started throwing it oh shit this is going to happen again isn't it and it didn't now that pick should have happened from Savage and we all know what would have happened if that pick counts we go into commercial break I'm celebrating by the way

Mason Crosby's back the Superboost is now on a heater Gumpy heat heat check. We're hot. Let's go. But then during the break, and I didn't have a sound on. It was in Spanish, so I did have the sound on, but I needed Zito because I couldn't understand a word they were saying. I just heard celebration elation, and I'm like, well, fucking Superboost.

I FaceTimed Gumpy. I'm like, we did it. Yeah. Hey, we did it. We're back. How did you know, Gumpy? I almost started asking. How did you know with the turns in this game? Whenever you watch

these games, you know, and you bet on most of them. And I thought this while I was in the league. I had no idea how I was going to kick week to week. I had no idea where the ball was going. Hey, how do you guys feel this week or whatever? I'd get asked by maybe a friend. I'm like, I have no I had no idea how I was going to kick week to week I had no idea where the ball was going hey how do you guys feel this week or whatever I'd get asked by maybe a friend I'm like I have no fucking idea dude I have no clue how I'm gonna do I don't

think anybody has a clue how they're everybody's hoping they're preparing but to go out and execute you have to do it every single time you have to go watching some of these games you it's hard not to just and maybe it was a little snoop it or sitch that I was on or whatever but But I was thinking to myself, how does anybody fucking know what's going to happen in any of these games? Literally any of them. The great teams lose to the terrible teams. And then the great teams become good teams. And then all of a sudden these teams heat back up and become incredible. And then for whatever reason, maybe one particular Sunday, they're the worst team of all time.

And then they're back the next week. None of it makes sense at all. But that Packers-Vikings game, it seemed as if it was just all lining up for the Super Boost celebration we were supposed to have with the Green Bay Packers money line being boosted from minus 120, I think, to plus 100, whatever it was. A completely different game, and we're going to get going. And then all of a sudden, on the other side,

Kirk Cousins takes advantage of the opportunity and wins that thing. In hindsight, you think on that last drive, the Packers scored too quick, but you're not thinking like... Yeah, one play, I actually did think that. It's Kirk Cousins.

They're going to milk the clock a little bit and score on this drive. And yeah, you're never thinking like, oh shit, you cannot give Kirk Cousins. Okay, here they go. They're going to milk the clock a little bit and score on this drive. And, yeah, you're never thinking like, oh, shit, you can't. You cannot give Kirk Cousins this much time because it was before the two-minute warning. You know what we mean. Well, I mean, this guy has shown that he should have either thrown two picks on that last drive. They should have went three and out. I mean, pulling horseshoes out of his ass, that's fine.

It's going to happen every once in a while. But then also, like, the Packers are so injured. I just wonder at what point that becomes something they can't overcome. Elton Jenkins tore his ACL. He's their second-best lineman. He's been filling in for Bakhtiari. That's massive. And Aaron took a big shot on that play.

For sure. And on that play, I think that was when he got up and started limping. His toe now is a legit, very serious concern, like if something could happen with that. What is it? How'd that happen? No clue. How did he stop his toe on the back?

And why won't he tell us? Well, that's the thing. Why is it misleading? I do wonder what it is, though. Toe is very annoying. And before half, I assume they were sending him back in to either get a shot or something. They never thought he was going to get the ball back,

and then he's standing there with 18 seconds, and Jordan Love's taking a knee with three timeouts, and everybody's like, what the fuck's going on? Well, he's probably going in to get the shot, and then all of a sudden the defense gets – I mean, that was a pretty quick turnaround. Oh, yeah. Nobody could have expected it. No, for sure, and I also fear that – I mean, I don't know what –

like, you can talk about the operation and everything, but, like, the Packers special teams is a fucking problem. Like, Mason Crosby makes a 54-yarder and then misses a chip shot. It's to the point now where every time he goes out there, it really is like you feel it's 50-50 if he's going to make it or not. It's a shame. I declared him back. Yeah, so did I right after the 54-yarder.

And then TBD. Yeah. Because it was actually a good op on when he missed he just hit it fat and then then i like think obviously always optimistically because this guy's been around a long time and just made a 54 yarder it's like okay maybe this is the first one that's actually been on him you know maybe it just happened at a terrible time or maybe it is hit or miss right now maybe he is in a little bit of his own head because he doesn't know what's going to happen with the snap and the hold.

I looked at a couple, and there's a ball like floating up here. I mean, it's an interesting – I don't know how that snapper is – that's a long leash, I think. Yeah, sure. I think that this snapper is – but I don't know how many other snappers are out. That's the thing is like before they cut the guy who was there, like it didn't really – like it may not have been great, but it didn't really seem like there was an issue.

And then all of a sudden they cut him, bring in this guy at the practice squad, and now it's just – Mason's 10 and a half. Six of 13. He's missed nine kicks this year. That's a lot of fucking missed kicks. Especially for – For a guy who doesn't do that. Well, and a team that's all the way at the top.

Speaking of another team that's at the top, I mean, Colt McCoy. Holy shit. Hey, Colt McCoy still got it. Colt McCoy and I, I think, same draft class. Maybe he was a year older, a year younger. I'm not sure. We're in the same area. Texas.

I mean, he was so goddamn good at Texas that Marty wrote a song about him getting hurt at the end and said he shouldn't have went out like that. That's a real story. Remember when Marty told us that? Oh, that's right. Marty Smith. Marty Smith and Marty and McGee. That's right.

And they are going to be down at the Coastal Carolina, Myrtle Beach. Myrtle Beach. Get your tickets now, actually. And Marty has some of the finest hair on television. Yeah.

And McGee has one of the best, not that Marty doesn. And McGee has one of the best accents. Not that Marty doesn't. McGee has one of the best accents. Congrats to McGee on his new deal. Hey, hey, hey, boy, McGee. McGee, McGee. I don't know if Marty and McGee know, but they got big fans over here. That's right.

Marty gave us a great interview from a Starbucks one day, and he said he actually wrote A because his internet was down at his house, which I can understand. Uh-oh. That happens. What's going on? I mean, I don't understand. A house I currently do own still has black mold all over it, so I had to move out immediately.

Sure, makes sense. So moving out of that house into another house, it's like, you've got to redo all the fucking everything. It's a project. My wife is kicking ass. Hey, Sam, you're the best, dude. Thank you, Sam.

Thank you, Sam. Thank you, Sam. Thank you, Sam. You're the absolute best. Plus with a 10-hour Survivor Series. Oh, yeah, true. Football season. Do you know who has the egg?

Huh? Do you know who has the egg? Where is the egg? Did you take the egg? Is it Gal? You have it. You got the egg. How come?

K.O. has it. How? K.O. doesn't have it. K.O.'s a clown. What the hell is that guy doing? I like it. I like what he did. It was fucked around.

Cadbury eggs. Oh, come on. That's a good point. Well, geez. Take it easy. It was almost Easter. Reese's ones. They never had me on a microphone When the egg thing was happening

That's a shame I wish I would have been on there I was always off the headset I was actually sprinting to the bathroom normally And when the first video ran I said Is Vince McMahon on the fucking show? And then I turned around and I saw a big Vince McMahon's on the show?

What is this about? A hundred million dollar egg Of course And then every time I got off the microphone What is this about? A $100 million egg. Of course. That's of course what's happening. Every time I got off the microphone, they carried it on anymore. Anyways, Marty from the Starbucks. Marty's got the egg.

Marty does not have the egg. He loves the egg bowl, though. He does love the egg bowl. Mississippi State is great. Get them cowbells out. Go get them. They'll be loud. Anyways, Marty covered NASCAR and college football for either ESPN and Fox. I forget who it was, but he was a massive Colt McCoy fan.

And when Colt got hurt or something like that, or however it ended with Texas, I don't recall. Yeah, National Championship. He wrote a song about how he won out, and he said he's a big fan. I guess that's how much Colt was a cult hero. Colt McCoy, this guy, Texas. Who knows what they're – they just lost to West Virginia. Hey, you guys stink. I got beat by Kansas the week before.

You guys stink. Hey, Arch, don't go there, dude. Yeah, you can't. Arch will start as a 17-year-old there, I assume, with the Sarkeesian offense. That's an NFL-made offense, and Arch will tear it up. Peyton told me on the Monday Night Manning cast that Arch is going to West Virginia. There you go. West Virginia and Texas, in my mind, was deemed

the Arch Manning bull. Where's Arch going? We beat them somehow. And our team's not beating a lot of people. I mean, we beat them. We went, and maybe this will catapult the boys in the mountains to keep going. But whatever the case, Texas stinks now. They weren't always like that. And Colt McCoy was a guy.

He's drifted around. He's been on Washington. I think he's been on like five different teams maybe. Giant last year. I think he's beloved, by the way. If you look at any of the videos coming out of Arizona from behind the scenes with Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler from before this season and everything like that, he's out there doing it.

Cliff Kingsbury and the boys out there in the desert. Fourth largest city in Americaica yeah phoenix phoenix about to be third it's growing they just beat the seahawks with russell wilson yeah and russell wilson looked terrible you take away that long ball to tie at the end there his numbers would have been garbage brutal and this is a couple weeks in a row now with Russell Wilson. Now, the conversation should be around the Cardinals and how good... Hey, congrats. Shout out to the Cardinals. I love when an owner literally takes his plane

and goes all in and spends a lot of money and says, hey, we want to win now. We would like to do this. We have a cool city. We have a great stadium. We have a team. We got a quarterback that's on face... Face up! Face up! Face up! We have a team. We got a quarterback that's on face. Face. Face. Face. Face. Face.

Face. With Brawny, who had his first game. He had a yoke. Oh, yeah. Why are they wearing the masks? Are they required to wear the masks? They must. They must be.

Then why are they wearing them as a... As a bib? Yeah, I don't understand that. Like in a game? It doesn't make sense. Yeah, yeah. His whole team was wearing them. On the court.

Yeah. I assume something LeBron's getting paid to do or something. Whatever. I love that Arizona has recognized what they have and gone all in. With that being said, are the Seahawks fucking dead? Oh, yeah. And what does the future look like? We're starting Pete Carroll's history with the Seahawks.

Well, and then what is Pete Carroll? Somebody alluded to it. Maybe Ian Rappaport. We're starting Pete Carroll's history with the Seahawks. Well, and then what is Pete Carroll? Somebody alluded to it. Maybe Ian Rappaport. This is from Michael Sean Duggar. Duggar? Duggar. At Mike Duggar. Okay.

Well, that's first, at least in my time covering the team. Pete Carroll, after about seven minutes, just said, I'm done. Stop fielding questions and walked off the podium. Whoa. Respect. He said no more. And you've got to remember, Pete Carroll is a guy that whenever people travel around to teams to tell teams how they should speak to the media,

and they have focus groups that watch these press conferences that coaches and players do, and there's a little line on the screen. I think his name was Frank Luntz traveled around to all these teams. He was a focus group expert, obviously. And NFL players are supposed to act like fucking politicians, I guess, in his mind, which made no sense to me ever. We're not running for a position of power. Why do we have to speak like these fucking stooges?

But I didn't have enough power to ask these questions, so Amanda was wearing hilarious shoes. And I'd learned about via sociology in college because he is like a focus group guru or whatever. He had focus groups like hit a thumbs up or a thumbs down while this conversation was going on and it was a red line if a player like somebody said i'm not doing to kiss my ass or something and it was like red line that's not a good way to talk pete carroll was like the example of these green lines that were just going going going up up up, up, up.

There was nobody else that we were shown that was anywhere near as positive with the listeners or the focus group than Pete Carroll. So for him to be at a point here, seven minutes in going, I'm out because that's red. Oh, yeah. This guy doesn't want to face the consequences of what's going on. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You never see that out of Pete Carroll, ever.

And with the off-season drama that there was, and we know there was a meeting in North Dakota, of all fucking places, where the Bears tried to get the Seahawks. And we asked, we said, hey, Kumbaya right now. Remember, they were in that press conference. It was Schneider. It was Pete Carroll. And it was Russ.

Hey, Mr. Unlimited here. We all like each other. They did that. They beat the hell out of the Colts in that first week and then they go on and have success but we asked, what happens if they don't have success? And they change his offense from let Russ cook and he will no

longer be able to be remembered as a top five player of all time, which is allegedly what he wanted to be remembered as and he has his team and he works like a Wolverine and he doesn't know if the Seattle Seahawks have the same mindset he has and he saw what happened with Tom and he knows that if he goes somewhere else it could potentially be better allegedly this is all bullshit alleged stories that had to have had some truth to it or there wouldn't have been a meeting in fargo north dakota that's right

so we are now in the the time where they stink yeah and is it because of his injury is he not all the way back is it because the seattle seahawks are kind of look disinterested, have no real inspiration? Do we not have clear eyes and full hearts anymore? What is going on in Seattle? And I know we should be talking about the positive, with the Cardinals winning with a backup quarterback against the Seattle Seahawks in a massive divisional game.

But what is up with the Seahawks, you think, Ty? I think they do. I mean, at this point, you almost have to blow it up after the season.awks you think ty i think they do i mean at this point you almost have to blow it up after the season i think oh no he's 75 years old russell's already well no i i would imagine pete because i think it was rap she told us last week that he like pete's not rebuilding he's not sticking around for a rebuild like i could see him maybe going and coaching somewhere else but it looks like russell came back too early and he kind of had to because if they don't start winning games with the Cardinals

and the Rams in their division and now the 49ers starting to heat up, they needed to win, and they needed to win right away. And you can tell. He's just not ready to be back yet. It was a valiant effort to put in all that rehab and shit like that, but he's just not ready to be out there yet, and it's pretty fucking obvious. You got Colt McCoy beating the Seahawks.

You got Huntley beating the Bears. Both those teams were trying to trade for quarterbacks. I mean, what is the deal in Seattle? Now, let's go to Tone Diggs, our COVID cowboy. And, Tone, we touched on it earlier, the Pittsburgh Steelers-Chargers game, but we didn't dive into it fully because I do believe it's a good conversation to be had because Ben Roethlisberger was dead. Then he gets COVID,

something that could have made him dead, survived. Good job, Ben. Quicker than anyone in the league. He self-reported it. He did come back quicker than anybody. Ben Roethlisberger was like a wolverine working 19 hours a day to beat that COVID.

He is a great healer. One of the best healers of all time. He looked very good. Yeah, he did. Nodge took a massive shot, cleared somehow concussion protocols, and got back out there. Special teams with a massive block. Right up the gut.

Down two scores. Need something. Need a boost. Special teams will do that. You need a spark. Special teams get a big return massive block maybe as a an incredible tackle a shot on the sideline there is something that the play don't care who make it and i think in last night's game it was a special teams block

it was and it looked like ben was good how do you feel as a steelers fan knowing you lost to a very talented charger squad justin herber seems to be back they seem to be back into what we thought Looked like Ben was good. How do you feel as a Steelers fan knowing you lost to a very talented Chargers squad? Justin Herbert seems to be back. They seem to be back into what we thought they were going to be all along before they hit their little schneid there. Are you optimistic, or are you thinking, oh, we suck, we're dead? No, I think after last night it was actually more of an optimistic thing because of how the offense played.

The defense was always going to play bad last night. They're missing five of their top six starters on defense. Cam's the only guy in there really who does anything at all. Hey, Cam Hayward's a fucking beast. They were showing the highlight, and I didn't get to watch it live, obviously, but I saw it on the internet. And the tweet was about, like, people forget Justin Herbert, 4'6". I guess that was said a bunch of times.

It was said all over the internet, all over the place. 10.5 was his over-under. We might need to put him in the Danny Dimes conversation, which is happening tonight against Tampa, by the way. Danny always seems, in his primetime games, to rush for the over. He's running for his life. He's doing that. Justin Herbert, though, this guy's fast.

He's running. He's doing this. He's doing that. He got tackled by Cam fucking Hayward. About 60 yards downfield. Yeah, this dude's 300 pounds. He's a D tackle and everybody's talking about this run by Justin Herbert, this run by Justin Herbert. I'm like

that gigantic fucking man just caught him that far down the field and then he punches him right in the fucking stomach. Hell yeah. What's that all about? I don't know. A lot of people weren't happy with Cam about that, but you know what? I don't give a shit. It's football. No, no, no. That's not football. What do you mean it's not football?

In between the whistles. We don't need to throw big right hands in the sternums of quarterbacks. When you're raising a blue collar, Tom, that's football. And I get these LA folk who didn't like that. But where I come from, that's fucking football. Cam had to be thinking something, by the way.

Justin Herbert even said it. He was like, I haven't seen it. He's a tough player. Football is an emotional game. Whatever happened, happened. Let's move on. And I assume the coach is saying, whatever happened, happened. Just like the Mac Jones situation where Matt Rule was like, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but I've got to stick up for my guys.

And Max said, I thought he had the ball. There had to be something that Cam Hayward – Cam Hayward's Hall of Fame conversation player. There had to be something that happened. I would just assume that he was fucking sick and frustrated about being the only guy who seemed to make any plays on the defense and chasing Herbert around. I can't believe he didn't shatter Herbert's ribs with that vicious shot, too.

I mean, he wound up and he delivered a blow. That was Tyson-worthy, that blow. It was devastating. He cocked it all the way back. Jimmy Smith said that about a happy Corbin punch last night. Oh, really? He cocked it all the way back. Jimmy Smith said that about a happy Corbin Punch last night. Oh, really? He cocked it all the way back. And I was like, oh, I got to.

He did cock. He did cock it all the way back. All right, let's get to a break. We got Frank Gore on the other side. Oh. Yeah, yeah. I'm very excited to talk to Frank Gore. We got Frank Gore here in this hour.

Then A.J. Hawk, obviously, in the next hour. Okay. Shams Farhania. Oh, Shams. Yeah, LeBron punched a guy right in the fucking. Then A.J. Hawk, obviously, in the next hour. Okay. Shams Farhania. Oh, Shams. Yeah, LeBron punched the guy right in the fucking eye. Damn. You know what I'm saying? Kick him out of the league.

No, that was a punch. Yeah. Yeah, I was vicious. Kick him out. There's no room for that. A.D. said, LeBron turned and said, I didn't mean to do that. And then Isaiah did what he did. I mean, get the fuck out of the league, basically.

It's what everybody was saying about Isaiah. Yeah. 20-year-old guy, I guess, lost his cool. We'll talk to Sean Shirani about it. Is LeBron James trying to beat down younger players so he can remain on top? Or was there a little hand jousting that

got a little feisty and LeBron still has it? Maybe you shouldn't dance with the king if you don't want a left to the eye. Give it a rest. What? I mean, LeBron is a huge Luka Garza fan who's getting his minutes eaten up by this guy sitting on Detroit's bench. He's like, all right, you know what? I'm going to fucking punch this guy in the face.

Let's get Garza 12 more minutes. Yeah, because LeBron actually watched him in Iowa. He did. And he was like, holy shit. I'd like to share the court with this guy. Yeah, he was angling to get him to L.A. It didn't work out for whatever reason. And that's why when the guy started running LeBron, LeBron actually backed up. He said, what, bitch?

He just kept backing up. Yeah. He was like, I'm going to fight you. What did Gilbert Arena say? Pack all of your shit. Yeah. You are getting traded out of here. Yeah, he's like, you're going to probably be playing in Budapest next week.

You've got to be fighting LeBron. No, you can't. No, no, no. Now, granted, the blood was a real vision. It was. Yeah, he's like, you're going to probably be playing in Budapest next week. Can't be fighting LeBron. No, you can't. Now, granted, the blood was a real vision. It was. But the sprint back on there. By the way, I love it. Hey, let's go. And who was, there was a guy on the Lakers who was, and I think Russ got in there too.

Russ Brooke, yeah. Yeah, but the other dude, big tall guy. DeAndre Jordan. DeAndre Jordan just standing there. Just literally standing there as this guy is sprinting with 10 people. What was DeAndre Jordan just standing there, just literally standing there as this guy is sprinting with 10 people. What was DeAndre Jordan about to do? He was going to sleep that fucking guy. Oh yeah, he's got

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Let's go! Pat, what's up, baby? What are you doing? Are you training in there? You're going to kick somebody's ass, huh? I just got done, man. How you doing? How long have you been boxing, Frank? Huh? How long have you been boxing?

Man, for a while, man. I've been doing it since like 2005, 2006. So you're a seasoned vet at this thing? You're going to kill this guy, Frank. It's my first time really training him like a real camp, man. But he also got MMA background, and we'll see, man. Hey, the game misses you. I've been busting my ass, though, you know, we'll see, man. Hey, the game misses you. You know, I've been busting my ass, though, bro. I'm not going to lie.

Well, I think anybody that's ever been a teammate alongside you knows, like, okay, Frank is a workhorse. You literally are a workhorse. Even 15 years in the NFL, 13 years in the NFL, it was like, hey, you can feed this guy 50 times a game, and he's not going to wear pads either. No pads, no socks, soccer cleats on, oldest helmet in the game, and he's going to try to run your fucking ass over, Frank. You already know, man.

Frank, you missed the game. The game misses you. Nah, I'm being real pat. Before I retired, before I left the game, I won't say I retired yet, but before I left, man, you know, you've been around me. You know how much I love it real pat. Before I retired, before I left the game, I won't say I retired yet, but before I left, man, you know, you,

you been around me, you know how much I love it, man. I used to be, when I knew the time was like about to come to an end, man, I used to be fucking scared. I'm not going to lie,

man. Um, you know, cause I didn't know, like I thought, you know, I'd fucking be missed. I thought I'd go crazy without,

without playing ball. But now, bro, I feel so good, man. I don't even miss it. Um, I've been, I've been, uh, getting a chance, you know, but now, bro, I feel so good, man. I don't even miss it. I've been getting a chance, you know, to be around my little kids and part one, also my son and also my stepson, you know,

going to college game, man. So I've been enjoying life, man. And also, you know, I'm still getting a chance to compete December 18th. Something new, but I've always been doing it. But I can't, you know know i'm looking forward to it the challenge man i respect darren you know um like i said whoever get in the ring i feel i feel like they got some type of toughness in them and you know i'm a great dude and i'm looking forward to have a good time december 18th man hey well congrats on finding happiness in retirement

can't wait to watch your fight good this is aj hawk by the way frank you uh what's up yeah we don't we don't bump heads a couple times yeah it was not fun on on my end frank i want to tell you that for sure a ton of respect for you and everything that you do but it's the same thing same here though man you was a smart player physical you know but you know we was going at it when it was appreciate it man it is how about this boxing Is it almost not taking place, the football, but do you see, like, a future? Are you looking at fights down the road after this first one? I don't know, man. Right now I'm enjoying it.

You know, I got a great team with me, great, great guys and girls in the gym with me who help me. I want to see me do good, man. It's like, you know, when you leave football, it's like the team, like a team gone, you know, a team like a family. And now, like in the Boston gym, man, I seem like I got another family in the sweat Boston gym, man, and it's been good, man. It's been helping me. Also, man, since I haven't been playing ball, my oldest son, my stepson,

have been helping me because I get a chance to see them and also been out there coaching my little son in part one. So I've been having a good time. I don't miss football. I'm happy about how I feel about it. And man, I'm just enjoying life, though. I'm being real. Okay, Frank. And I know how much you love the team. And I can see how that could potentially

fuck you up whenever you're potentially leaving the game. I think we're seeing the ceiling of your gym right now. Is that a... Are you down in a basement? Is there any windows in there? Is that as grungy, hot as hell as South Florida? It's like an attic.

I'm sure they'll give you a look of it. You'll see it. Yeah, yeah. Is it in South Florida, obviously? We call it a dungeon, baby. Yeah. Those bags are getting their asses beat, Frank. We up here. Yeah, those bags are getting their asses beat, Frank. Absolutely. We up here.

Yeah, we go downstairs. Still got to get them downstairs. Hey, Frank, you fighting, fighting in there? Hey, you fighting? We throwing, like, you actually making contact, and how's the sparring going? Is there, like, a fake spar? Nah, you know, hey, when it's time to go it's time to go and that's one thing

my coaches man and that's another thing you know me being like the guy you know playing ball now man i'm like the fucking at the bottom of the gym now so it's like that's a tough day too and you know they don't let up on me man um i've been going against this fucking Russian, man. Russian? Oh, my God. Hey, Pat. This fuck is so strong, man. When you come to the fight, man, I will show you in person because I can't show you. I'll show you in person on my phone. It's fine. You're going to be like, what the fuck?

But, man, I've been enjoying it. It's tough. You know, I'm still learning. You know me, I'm going to keep learning. I'm going to keep working my ass off until I get it. And, you know, I'm going to try to get this win December 18th. Hell yeah. By the way, I will definitely come to that fight to watch your day.

I appreciate it. Yeah, no problem, Frank. AJ, you come too, man. AJ, get your ass out of Ohio. Why don't you come to the fight? December 18th. Let's do it, Pat. I'll ride with you.

Okay, we'll fly. All right, perfect. So we're going to the fight. All right, here we go. Here we go. Hey, Frank, let's go get this win here, Frank. Can I talk to you about the team aspect of that because before we got a tour of your incredible dungeon that you're fighting in you love the team and you just you alluded to it there where you're

a little bit scared of leaving the game because the team aspect the team aspect at what point did you know like football in the family the team aspect was what you were going to be most focused on because not only were you a workhorse, you were a massive locker room guy. Like, everybody loved Frank Gore. Was that something you did on purpose or was it natural? It was natural, man. And I think because the way, when I got injured, when I took both of my knees and God showed me that football wasn't promising, man.

So it made me understand, like, when you hit the field, man, you got to go out there every day like it's your last because you never know, you know, when you'll be back out there. And I've been through that. So once I got to get back on my feet and got the chance to reach my childhood dream, that's the NFL, man. I always told myself I was going to take it one at a time and bust my ass for all my teammates to show them that I don't care how good it is,

how good you is, you know, as long as you work your behind off that, man, you're going to be even special. And that's how I took it, man. It was awesome. Hey, Frank, did you have anybody when you were young that kind of showed you the way or mentored you? Because not everybody that's a superstar like you kind of has that same attitude. I won't say I had a mentor, but no, I had my mom, man, you know, no matter what she's been through, and, you know, she always made a way for her kids to get food on the table and also put clothes on our back, man. I know me coming up wasn't hard.

Growing up in a one-bedroom apartment with, like, 12 people, and she, man, she made a way to make us feel comfortable growing up as a kid. So it was kind of my mom showing me the way no matter what you're going through, you can get through it. Hey, your mom's a badass. Hey, let's go. Thank you, mama. Whenever you

think about the teams that you were on, in the locker rooms you were in, in the running back rooms you were in, like at the U, that running back room at the U should still be talked about every single night who all came out of there. Were you guys just competing every single day in practice? And what were those days like?

And will the U ever get back to that, Frank? What the hell? Man, I think me going to UOM at the time, that made me who I am too, man, because I had to bring it every day. That's why when San Fran dropped to the back, I didn't care who they brought in because I was ready for competition because I'd been around it. I knew what it had to take to be the man, to be to the top, and I did that. So, you know, being around Portis, being around McGahee, being around Nijay,

Cardin Hill, Payton, you know, we had to compete every day. If you ain't bringing it every day, your ass not going to play. When I got to the NFL, I didn't give a fuck who was in my backfield. Hey, talk about that San Francisco team. I remember having good conversations with you on the plane about

that locker room. You guys went on a hell of a run. Yeah, we had some gangsters, man. Justin Smith, Patrick Willis, we had Aldridge Smith, we had God gangsters man justice smith patrick willis we had aldous smith yeah god best of soul pat um p town um we had fucking deshaun goldstein me vernon davis ollie smith cabinet man we had some gangsters man and and one thing i will say you know like the be a good team you gotta be like a family and it's like we was like a family, bro. Because at once, all the guys, like the core guys, like me, Vernon, Patrick,

when we first got there, we was the last for the NFL. And once we hit that peak to be the best team in the league, man, we enjoyed that time. And, man, we did everything together. It was like a college. You know, NFL really, you don't have every everybody going here at one time man everywhere everywhere every club we went to we went as a group bro so that's why i think we're so good because we was more like family it didn't matter we was on offense or defense if i felt like pat was bushing i can go

to the defense like hey bro man get this shit going they feel like i'm bushing justin milk come over there hey frank what's up, man? What the fuck y'all doing? You know, we didn't get mad at each other because we loved each other. We believed in each other. And we knew what we had in us. So I think that's why we were so good at the time, man. That's awesome to hear.

Camaraderie's the biggest X factor nobody fucking talks about. Go ahead, AJ. Hey, Frank, what was it like playing with Justin Smith? He's a guy that I hope gets the respect he deserves. I'm from Ohio. He was drafted by the Bengals. That guy, to me, is like Superman. The strongest dude ever, I feel like.

And just an absolute monster for a long time. He's a fucking dog, bro. You know me, Pat. I don't like pussies, man. That is true. I'm being real, Pat. I don't like interviews, but when they told me you wanted me on, you know, you wasn't a pussy, so I'm on.

Hey, I appreciate that, Frank. And by the way, whenever you told me one time, and I had, honestly, I was blessed to have incredible conversations with you, Frank. Frank told me one time on a plane, he said, hey, man, you would have been great in our locker room in San Francisco. Oh, fuck it. That was one of the nicest things that anybody's ever said to me. I was like, hey, I appreciate that, Frank.

Yeah, you would have fit in well with us, boy. Well, I appreciate that. Hey, hey, you're too tough to be in our locker room on the Indy, bro. Hey, what did you think about your time there? That was interesting, wasn't it? I thought we had the skill guys, man. I just don't think we was built the right way. We was built outside in, and I think in football, you got to build inside out.

You know what I'm saying? And I think that's why Andrew didn't play as long because, man, he was getting killed, bro. And what you do, like I tell people, man, if I had the O-line in Indy that they got now, bro, I would have had 1,583 years, bro. And I'm talking about 32 years old. I got that 32 years old. Remember that. Oh, Frank, you're an absolute stud. I remember you in a couple conversations just being like, Andrew Luck's a guy.

Like, we got a fucking guy here. We got to go. We should go. And I wish we would have won further for you and your career we have like one or two more questions is that cool frank oh yeah yeah go ahead ty frank you said you've been you know training in boxing since like 2009 or but now this is the first time that you've really gone all in is like the actual training aspect of it is that more difficult than you anticipate i mean obviously you played in the nfl for so long and we're never

really hurt and we're always ready to go like getting ready for boxing is that a lot different than like getting ready to play an nfl season this shit hard as fuck man i'm not gonna lie man i will never call a guy in this sport sorry bro because me dealing with what they have to go through man i'm not blind pat man this Pat, man. This shit is hard, bro. And I'm also still learning. So, you know, when you're learning, it gets you even more tired. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I'm enjoying it.

I say I'm going to do it. You know, I'm going to give it my all. And I think a lot of people are going to be surprised of the way I look December 18th. Have you watched the other athletes and celebrities that have done the boxing? And some look terribly unathletic. I assume you've been seeing film, watching film, and you won't go out there unless you're ready to handle business, right? One thing, you know me, Pat, I'm not going out there to make myself look like a fool.

Yeah, yeah. Hey, man, you know, I know Darren's going to come to fight, win, lose, or draw. It's going to be something exciting, and everybody's going to respect the way I look in the ring. I will say that. But, yeah, I watch a a lot i watch a couple guys um but one thing i will i did like how chad looked in the ring you know um you could tell the you know i've been around chad in the gym so he got he got skill set uh he just kind of got tired towards the end because they gave him a short notice um to get ready um but yeah um i'll be ready de 18th. Hey, we appreciate you for joining us.

Continue to crush it. We can't wait to watch that fight live. Oh, yeah. Let's go, Frank. Let's fucking get a win over the NBA. Get out of here. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who is not officially retired could still end up being the number one rusher in the history of the NFL,

only getting into better shape from the U. Ladies and gentlemen, Hall of Famer, only getting into better shape from the U, ladies and gentlemen, Hall of Famer, Frank Gore. Thank you, man. Thank you, Frank. All right, see you, dude. All right. That was cool, huh?

Yeah, that was awesome. Hey, great conversations with Frank Gore on the plane ride home, you know, after, like, losses, something had happened in the game. And I was, you know, I think that was the old school kind of plane mentality that I was, I don't want to say raised on, but my first couple of years in the NFL, the planes, those planes were like sacred. Like, Hey, this is our only time.

And I think it was a much older team. This is our only time probably all week where anybody thinks about stuff other than football, but we're actually just celebrating football. Like, that is it. And then as soon as we get home, there's families, there's responsibilities, there's next week, there's everything. But that plane ride was always sacred. So as I got older, you know, I tried to, like, those flights home,

everybody's just sitting down. They got their damn headset on, their headphones on. Nobody's talking to anybody. I'm like, what the fuck? so I would just start like kind of bouncing around a little bit Frank was very similar to me he was like hey these planes are supposed to be like uh hey this is where a team almost comes together you know like this is almost a time me and Frank got into a couple hour long conversations a few times I'm like I fucking love this guy and I would make a tackle or something Frank would be one of the first people

like and not thank god he didn't headbutt me, but he would be like right in there. Like, I loved fucking Frank, dude. He was awesome. Oh, I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if a team signs him, honestly. Like, if a team decides to pick him up at some point this year, maybe if they have a few injuries, I would sign him. But when you were walking down the aisles trying to find somebody to chat with, you ever, like, see just five or six dudes just fake sleep the second they see you pop up yeah

yeah a couple of those you know and then there'd be like maybe a cypher in the back you know i'd come oh i'm gonna go get in here like if a coach peeks his head through the curtain to look back with the players that's in the whole place everyone's out yeah i think there was a couple people that didn't necessarily enjoy my company whenever I was around here. Is this guy narcoleptic? Why is this guy? Is he always sleeping? Jesus Christ.

No, those planes. Did you guys do that in Green Bay? I know you guys don't give tour to all, although Aaron definitely went and got a shot in his foot at halftime and was going to get one early there. Were your plane rides anything special? No? When I came in, it was a cool team to where, yeah, we had a bunch of the old vets that, not a bunch,

but a good chunk of the old vets that were awesome dudes and awesome players. And then we had a big infusion of young players as well. Mike McCarthy took over as new head coach. But it was a good group to where we blended well. But, yeah, there's always the different sections. Like the linemen are always playing whatever their random card games are, their little dice game, and everyone has their own little deal. Yeah, always go right to the D-line.

They're playing the biggest game of whatever. Boo-ray, you name the game. The biggest one, the D-line is Manning. It's normally in the middle section, too, and they have tables down, and then there's lights on, and then obviously there is a speaker or two and they're standing looking back. Some people are incredibly uncomfortable getting their card. That's what I wanted to say.

The most uncomfortable card game. A guy standing up looking backwards, like reaching over the top of someone else sleeping to throw the card down. And there's fucking like 10 grand on the line. You're just showing your card basically. I mean, can you not look? I mean, Jesus.

I mean, it is. Great times. I don't think this happened much anymore, honestly. I think now it's like such a, it's kind of like, hey, let's rest. Let's listen to some music. Let's go ahead and recover and do that whole thing. And I agree. Hey, science tells you that's really good to do.

But I've seen some people drink two bottles of wine on one of those ones. And by the way, they would go on to run for maybe or have 200 yards a week later. But I know science and bodies are different now than they were then. God damn. There was this bottle of tequila I saw get chugged. Then that person would go on to lose fake money, obviously, and very high in a game of dice on a rocky flight. So think about the dice game on a rocky flight.

I was watching it. It was being kept by IOUs on paper. It was awesome. You want to end that? No, no in matt no no no no i'm just gonna watch this thing there was a very expensive dice roll that i still to this day if i was on the wrong end of that i would have been like we are not right there was a turbulence boom flips over onto another one, hits, celebration from the one person, dismay from the other. And I was asked to judge. I left.

I went to the card game. I said, I am out of here. But those planes are sacred. And Frank Gore was awesome. He's going to win that fight. We got to go. I guess we have to go now, yeah. Where is it?

Tampa. Tampa? Ooh. Stay at your house. Stay at his house. Yeah. I still got the keys. Yeah, I still got the keys. Wait, you guys still rent in that place?

Well, I mean, we were for like the first four months. I think when his live-in chef was there, fucking A, we were paying for that whole thing, I think. Oh, was that the chef that tried to vax card deal? Yeah, and there was a separate quarters for somebody to live that works at the house, too, like at that house that we were staying at down there in Tampa. They beat God, and we were paying for it for two months, I think.

I assume he was paying as well. She was just double dipping. Oh, yeah. I don't know. He may have been squatting on the property. Yeah, maybe. The pool was much cleaner than whenever we were there. It was.

Let's talk about some things, and obviously the Buccaneers are playing tonight. We'll have to dive into that probably in hour three. We have Sham Sharania joining us at some point in this particular hour here in two minutes. Seven minutes. Seven minutes. Seven minutes. Okay, because the two and the five.

Oh, yeah. Could have been 25. That's on me. No, no, no. There's no way that I there. Was that the German two? That's what he did. What do you want me to do?

That's what he did. You did that? Yes. That's a posture. Hey, by the way, welcome back, Nick. Hey, Nick. Welcome back, Nick. Holy shit, he's back.

Can you just talk into your ear and say seven? I could, but also hand signals. Every once in a while he gets bored, he starts going up. Oh, yeah. He's got to do his entire thing. We'll talk to Shams here in six minutes now, I believe. One pinky and five hands on the other one. Maybe 15 minutes.

Who knows? But let's talk about some things happening around the NFL. Green Bay Packers lose to the Minnesota Vikings last night. Savage had a pick, went into a commercial break. Our super boost went from winning definitely to, oh, shit, not again. The Vikings, though, Kirk Cousins making some plays. The defense flying around. Aaron's toe seems to be a large conversation.

We made a joke out of it, AJ. You and I both and everybody on the internet made a joke out of him hurting his toe while being quarantined away. Did he stub it on the kitchen? Did he run into the bathroom and maybe kick the toilet? What was going on with the toe? This is a much larger part of the story. Your takeaway while watching an incredible division rival, Packers, go into Minnesota and lose to the Vikings.

Definitely surprising that they lost that game but I mean the the savage pick you thought it was like you thought it was over a couple different times and I know there was a big uh roughing the passer on Kirk that overturned another interception he threw like stuff like that but hey he made the throws when he had to their receivers are legit and Aaron's toe is definitely I guess more of a deal than I thought it would be I had no idea it was this bad. What do you know? I don't know anything. Come on.

You know. I don't think anybody knows. He said it's more painful than turf toe. Like, from what everyone tells me, turf toe is, like, one of the worst things you can have. He was going in to get a shot. Just because everybody doesn't get Toradol, you guys still believe in, like. They wouldn't give him Toradol at halftime, though, if they're going to shoot him up at half. No, they would have given him some cane, some sort of cane.

Like a light cane, probably. I don't know if they do that. It's probably the same thing he got at that Bears game a couple years ago on Monday night, where people thought he tore his ACL. He went in at half and came back out and played the rest of that. So I assume that they're giving him something if he needs it. There had to be.

And that shot into the foot would hurt so bad. Oh. Foot, big toe. Yeah. Right in your toe, wouldn't it be? So this is big toe. Is that what it is? I would assume.

Do people hurt other toes and it bothers them like that? No, no, no. Listen, I know nothing. I've stoved my... If they said... Oh, my God. Walking around the house. I'm in this new house now.

Pinky toe. Walking around, all of a sudden, that would be bang. Oh, nothing worse. Oh, my God. You're so small. How can you hurt so bad? Is that what he's going through Wouldn't that be a little change up

What if it was his pinky toe he's dealing with Is it possible he cut his toenails too short Oh that's what I'm here for And then the shoes Maybe his toenails are too long And then they get into the shoe Might have dropped the last Aaron Rod Rogers book club book on his toe to 600 fucking 80 pounds.

All right, let's, let's get to this week's book. He said, and he fucking flipped off a page. One in a bag. Oh my God. The Egyptian God thing.

Graham Hancock. It's certainly possible. Seven is Bible thick. That he thought who was reading that. Did somebody read that? No way. There's no way anybody read that. I mean, a lot of people have read that book.

I'm saying not in the last six days. Yeah, I tried. That's a tough one. I fell asleep multiple times, and then also I realized, well, this is going to take me eight years to read. Are you worried about the Packers at all? They've got a bye week next week. No, I'm not too worried. I think that didn't aaron say this he'll probably have a similar schedule like he did last week where he didn't practice a few days and practice on friday

and then hopefully the the bike and get him somewhat healthy at least feeling decent yeah the buy is coming at a good time it looks like for aaron rogers how about the rest of the team getting healthier are the Vikings a team? Are we worried about the Vikings you you kind of took ricochet shots at Kirk Cousins threat time? Yeah, he threw like six other picks and there's a bullshit rough in the past or like you kind of just slighted that in There do you believe the Vikings are a team or no? No, I wouldn't be too worried about the Vikings if I was in the NFC North nice. I think they're good I think their defense can be very good.

Kirk can play very good, but I just don't see them putting a run together. Me neither, especially with Aaron Rodgers in there. But if he's – Dalvin Cook's a monster. Their wideouts are studs. Like, they have a lot of weapons there. Words matter. We get it.

We get it. What does that mean? You know. I'm saying they have very, very good players, but I don't see them as a team making a run at the Super Bowl. That's a very serious subject, by the way. We are moving on. Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very serious. Packers play the Rams this week, too, so not another, you know, before they go into the bye, so not just a little cupcake, you know. I don't remember. The Rams stink right now, or are they good? Well, they lost going into their bye. Oh, so they're coming out of the bye.

Yeah, so they stunk going into the bye. Remember, teams that are on bye weeks, especially Monday, Tuesday, I forget they're even in the NFL. Yep. I completely forget they're even. Thursday night game, Tampa, I think, right? Didn't they play Thursday night? Niners ran a diner through it.

Yeah. Might as well not even play. Yeah. I'm like, God damn it. Like, I forgot Tampa's last game because they're playing. Oh, Tampa's last game. My bad. I thought you were talking about the Rams.

Tampa's last game, I think, was Thursday to a Monday here or whatever. Yeah. That is a lot. They might as well not even be in the NFL right now. They lost to the football team. Yeah. That's a big game tonight, AJ. Your early indications, early leans here.

By the way, I did beat you on Sunday. Oh, what was it? Well, the initial graphic that I was sent had you winning. And I opened it and I said, probably, I guess. And then I just moved along. It wasn't until I found out here that there was a recount. I was the winner. I beat you.

Obviously, dude. Nine and five. You won eight and six. That's a shame the how'd the recount work well they had to actually dirty had the um the titans and the texans result mixed up and also um we got the ravens because we took it at five and a half it ended at one we both got it because we were on there we would have taken the ravens i think even with oh yeah are you sure you took the Texans?

Huh? You took the Texans over the Titans? Yeah, dude. I picked the Texans, the Lions, and the Jets all in one fucking day. I've never in my life thought I would do that. I did it, and I won. And that's why sports gambling is a psychopath's game. It makes no sense.

It is a psychopath's game. It makes no sense. A New York Post says that A.J. Hawk had joked about Aaron Rodgers hurting toe while smoking DMT with Joe Rogan. That is a headline in the photo they chose to use of you in this. Your face. Oh, no. I don't know if that was the ohio internet that got you but the new york post has set you up to look like one giant stooge anything to say in return about your little dmt

joke now that the toe injury seems to be pretty significant high looking guy in the photo that goes along with the headline. Well, I do not care about the picture at all, but Aaron has not said this didn't happen, so I'm still going with that. Wow. There was no pushback on that. No denial.

He did not say, that's stupid, I would never do that. How come none of the other viable options that were pitched either on the internet or on this show were picked up other than the dmt joe rogan smoke toe session i don't know that's a good question selective journalism hey the internet the internet went by the way oh yeah uh-huh and we thought it was a joke this is a real thing this is one of the best teams in the nfl the nfc the guy, the reigning MVP, who's being, you know, hampered by a toe injury going into a bye week. AJ Aaron's tough, right? He's tough. Yeah, he's super tough. Is this the kind of thing though? Like, I mean, turf toe, like is one week on the bye really

going to do anything if this is more serious than that? Like that's a link, like a lingering injury that I feel like is going to stick with you for a while. Do you ever mess up your Flintstone toes or no? No, my foot and different parts of my foot and ankle, but no, not my toes. Does COVID ever shut people's feet or toes down? Well, there was this fungi that potentially diabetes grows in your one toe and then all of a sudden circulating. COVID toe. COVID toe.

They say the old golden toe is very different than the COVID toe. But you're in the shit with both of them. You know what I mean? And that is kind of. What's the golden toe? Well, you know. You know. Come on.

Wake up, man. Don't. Yeah, you do. You probably have a shirt about it. But join us now. Wait, someone pees on their toes? Come on. Come on. All now. What, someone pees on their toes? Come on, dude. Come on.

All right. What's your deal? Let's go to the man joining us right now. Nine-year NFL vet. Host of the Man to Man podcast. No way he knows what Golden Toe is. Yeah, he does. And everything DB.

Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. What's up, fellas? What's up, fellas? What's up, fellas? AJ, I have no clue what golden toe is. Thank you very much. I would love to be educated, though. No, I think it's when somebody sticks a toe up somebody else's asshole. Boom.

Why is that golden? Because you're digging for golden. Okay, well, I mean, brown toe would be a lot easier. That would make sense. I didn't name it. What do you want from me, AJ? I didn't fucking name this thing. I don't know why I am getting crucified for it.

I'm just saying that is something that happens, and we don't think that is the case for Aaron, but we don't know. We have no idea what it could be. Darius, did you ever have an injured toe or anything? That feels like that would be very annoying, like a muscle almost. Yeah, the toes are the worst, especially at this point in the season when it's cold outside. I had a dislocated toe before, but no go to toe.

Never got that before, and I don't know what Ava had. Jesus Christ. This is unbelievable. AJ, fuck you. I don't know, just want to be clear. Okay, let's dive into some football here. Jonathan Taylor is the MVP uh you agree with me five touchdowns yesterday a week ago we actually asked the question live uh you brought it up and then i echoed it very loudly quickly why did we stop giving that guy

the ball in the past he has less touches than derrick henry still at this point derrick henry played uh three less games than Jonathan Taylor, but he is eating. He is unbelievable, and it feels like the Colts have found their identity around that MVP, D-Bud. Yeah, I mean, it's been that case from the jump, man. Just keep giving him the damn ball. Obviously, he's

got a lot of tread on him because he did carry the ball a ton in college, so maybe it was a pitch count type of thing, and you don't want to give him too many carries too early. It's like he's hitting his stride. He did the same thing at this point in the season last year. He's definitely in the MVP conversation.

He jumped in there yesterday, but I'm still with the guy out there in LA. Oh, you're with Stafford. Okay. How do you think they're going to choose? Justin Herbert. Come on. Stafford's turning right back into the guy you saw in Detroit. No! He had a bye week!

He had a bye week! Brady, he had a bye week! I picked him to cover last week, I remember. All right. Yeah, well, a new offense. Nobody's talking about it. Go ahead, AJ. I'm sorry, pal.

Oh, look at this. Josh Allen, by the way, still up there, right behind Tom Brady. We'll learn a lot tonight. We'll get Darius's opinion on that as we go. Kyler Murray with what Colt McCoy is able to do. He's got another bye week. He might be back like it's a brand-new start of the season again. Matthew Stafford still up there.

Aaron, obviously, deck. Herbert's good odds, though, plus 1,000 if you ride with Darius. Go ahead, AJ. Sorry. Oh, D-Buck, what about the Chiefs? Are they back? I know they didn't put up a ton of points, but they did what they needed to offensively and their defense looked great against the cowboys

like what's their future look like i mean i think they're back we everybody jumped back on the train last week after they whooped up on the raiders but i think uh people around the league have a lot more respect for the cowboys right now they do the raiders and they wouldn't have won the ugly game obviously the cowboys are down some guys but chiefs uh offense did what they had to do to get the win, but the defense, more importantly, they've been on point not only yesterday, but this last month they've kind of gotten it together after the ugly start they had. So Frank Clark showed up, Chris Jones, he's a beast back on the inside.

Oh, yeah. Sneed is playing well. He should get paid. So the Chiefs are a scary team right now. You like the Chiefs going forward? And Patrick Mahomes said, I've been trying to tell people about this defense. What was it? They just started

terribly? Is that what everybody has fresh in their mind? I mean, it was nothing to tell us about the defense. We saw it. Shit was terrible. I mean, they got it back on point. They're playing better. That's pretty much what it is. They're playing better. It wasn't like we made them shit up. What happens, D-Butt?

What happens? Is it just chemistry? Is it a new scheme, new strategy? Why do some teams just able to kind of flip the switch and other teams just stink forever? I mean, I think it's adjustments. I don't know what the reasoning was behind putting Chris Jones on the outside, but I know when he was up to get paid,

watching him in that interior defensive line, he was one of the best forces in the game, so I'm sure that move has something to do with it. Really, guys just execute. That's really what it is. They move Sorensen out of the starting lineup, and he's still playing, but guys that come down to executing, tackling, getting off the field on third down, and

closing out games, and that's what they've been doing. When they have an offense and a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, it's only a matter of time until they get hot and start putting up points again. It's a matter of... They made adjustments and they're just playing better. That's all it is. Tough division. Raiders are dead. Let's talk about your MVP favorite loss.

Yeah, they're dead. Rich Passaccia. How's the guy, Bagul? I met Jimmy Galante on Friday, by the way. How's the guy, Bagul? How's the guy, Bagul? I think I'm part of the family. Wow. We're. How's the gabagool? How's the gabagool? I think I'm part of the family. Wow. Yeah, we're going to do the gabagool together.

That was a big-time deal. You got Threshers behind you. Threshers. Hey, that's a good group of people to have, I think. Yeah, big time. Hey, it was good dinner. Two good setups. Good table.

The gabagool was fantastic. Anyways, let's talk about your MVP, Justin Herbert. They looked bad there for a bit. They looked bad. We didn't know what was going to happen. Brandon Staley, Justin Herbert. They look bad. They look bad. We didn't know what was going to happen. Brandon Staley, first year as a head coach. He's super optimistic, super positive. His natural speak is coach speak.

Justin Herbert kind of quiet, but a stud. Now they see him after a big win against the Steelers last night. Herbert had to answer when Pittsburgh kind of stepped on it. Why do you like Herbert so much? And that's a tough division. That's a very tough division to become MVP in, isn't it? Yeah, very tough division. If he wins it over Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, he definitely deserves it.

But a couple of ebbs and flows during the season. Still a young team. Still a first-year head coach. Still a second-year quarterback. But when you needed it the most, when you needed to get it done, he got it done. If you look across the league, every other MVP candidate, his blemishes on their resume this year as well,

except for Jonathan Taylor. All the other quarterbacks, his blemishes everywhere. Justin Herbert, if I had to buy a ticket right now, he's still the guy I would bet on for the rest of this year and going forward. If you watch him, it's not even... If you watch the guy play football, he does everything you want a quarterback to do.

He can be athletic and move the pocket. He can run. He can make every throw. The only thing that's holding him back in any aspect is the play call. And I want to see him open it up more and throw it down the field more. But outside of that, man, it's nothing not to like about this guy. Great weapons. Speaking of quarterbacks, what about Baker Mayfield?

I know he didn't speak to the media after the game there's all kind of drama i feel like even though they won what do you think is going to happen with the browns like what do they do with baker i mean i still feel like they're kind of stuck with them because uh you know how do you get a better option uh you got to take a chance in the draft these guys just don't pop up for agency they'll win too many games to pick hot so you're stuck with them they got to take a chance in the draft. These guys just don't pop up for agency. They'll win too many games to pick high. So you're stuck with them. They got to make it work if you're Cleveland Browns. But I don't see him as a guy you're going to rally troops to win a Super Bowl with.

Not right now. Not in this offense. I know he's hurt right now. But, I mean, you went to the wire with TB12 out there in Detroit. I mean, that's not good, man. A lot of questions about that quarterback in Detroit. How did he make it? Thanks for Foxy. How did that guy make a team?

I mean, him and Aaron are wrestling. Maybe that's where the toe injury came from. Great at UConn. Tim Boyd. He had, what, one touchdown, 17 picks in one year in one place? Damn. And then 10 touchdowns, 75 picks in another place, and now he's starting in the NFL.

How's that happen, D-Bone? He's got to have somebody's news or something, man. It's about who you know. I mean, something. I don't know. And Foxy put me on yesterday. I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on. How do you even get to that point?

How do you make it past like one touchdown and eight interceptions? But he found a way. He got out there and he damn near beat Baker yesterday. So he's doing something right. 64 total yards or something like that. Let's talk about another Foxy situation with you. Just like me, I think you have similar feelings about this. I don't follow college football enough.

I apologize. I'm not doing any college stuff. So I have no idea what's going on in college football except for what I'm told in conversation. And I was told Mel Tucker's getting 90-some million dollars. Michigan State's back. Top 10 matchup. And then literally live on the air with Coach JB,

I found out that it was a 19.5 point spread. I thought Michigan State was favored by 19 and a half over Ohio State because of all the shit that I had heard about Michigan State being back and then Oregon beating Ohio State early in the season. I had not kept up with any of it. Turned out, it was the other way. Oh, yeah. And it was nowhere near enough.

You got slaughtered. Did you feel misled by Foxy just like I did, Darius? Hood weight, bamboozled, led astray. I mean, I saw the tweet earlier in the week, like you said, 10 years, $95 million. I'm like, God, we got to be doing something right. We see the plus 19 and a half. Then I see Foxy put the FanDuel line up there.

Like, oh, this is way too many points. Oh, shit, Foxy know what the hell he talking about. Let me go ahead. Don't even say nothing. Just let me go put the FanDuel line up there. Like, oh, this is way too many points. Oh, shit. Fox, you know what the hell you're talking about. Let me go ahead. Don't even say nothing. Just let me go put the bet in. And, I mean, I turned it on halftime, and it was just slaughtered. 41? I think it was 41 zip at halftime.

Yeah, 49 zip at halftime. I feel bamboozled by A.J. because he's got the best team in college football, and he never talks about them. What do you get, Pat D.I.O.? Listen to this shit. He texted me in the middle of the first quarter and he said, was 19 and a half too much?

Just like such a casual. What an asshole. Such a casual. I'm like, why don't you talk about Ohio State? AJ, you want to put pressure on the boys? You're the AJ Hawk. How come I didn't know that they were the hottest team in football right now? Well, now their quarterback is a Heisman front runner as well right now.

The dude can sling it. I was talking to college football expert Brandon Walker of Barstool Sports last night, and I asked him, I said, hey, who's going to win the fucking, you know, the Gobble Goal this year? And he said Georgia. He said Georgia's defense is going to be. And then he had Ohio State at two, and then he said there is quite a gap there or whatever. That was a great conversation because I know nothing about it, but I guess Georgia's a bunch of dog, like actual.

Was it Oregon at three? I saw that line, too. I think they were underdogs. I mean, I'm confused by the college shit, man. So what is it? There's two wagons and then everybody else stinks? Well, Cincinnati's probably, what, 1A, 2A? Is that what we're saying?

I think they're still going to have a hell of a time. They're going to get slaughtered. No! stinks. Well, Cincinnati's probably 1A, 2A. Is that what we're saying? No! Not Luke Fickle's team, Darius. Can't keep him out. They're top four. You can't keep him out now. No, let him in the dance. Let Luke Fickle in. Now that Oregon lost, there's no way since he isn't in the college football

playoff at the end of the year. Hey, how about UCLA, USC? Did you guys watch that DT? Jump over. College football stinks, buddy. I am so sorry. Why is nobody at that game? I saw JB tweeted a picture of the stands. Because they stink.

They stink. That quarterback, though, that touchdown run he had was one of the most. I think I called his first game. Yeah. UCLA versus Cincinnati. DTR out of Vegas. This guy is the guy. He's the guy.

He was a freshman, I think. They lost to Cincinnati bad. He did not get going at all. He was young. It was nice to see, like, oh, yeah, they were right. This dude is. He jumped over that motherfucker. Oh, yeah.

He got flagged for signing a hat that a fan gave him after a touchdown. Pretty sweet. Who flagged him? Land Clark. Land Clark. him after a touchdown. Pretty sweet. Who flagged him? Land Clark. Land Clark. That's a gangster celebration right there. His son. Yeah, it is, especially if you're in college and you know they're going to be pissed off about it.

You just still do. I just jumped over a guy. Get off my fucking dick. I appreciate it. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Deebo. Real quick, speaking of gangsters, hey, that Frank Gore interview, that went exactly how I would expect a Frank Gore interview to go.

I love Frank. I'm looking at the clips. I'm waiting for his face to come. Shout out to Frank, man. Shout out. Hey, he's going to beat the shit out of D-Well, I think. I don't know. Yes, he is, I think. Shout out to D-Well,

by the way, getting in there. Frank Gore was like, anybody that's in this, I got a lot of respect for, which Frank Gore is always going to be the, you know, like he's going to have appreciation and respect for people that go and do stuff. But, boy, I've been doing this since like 2005, 2006 or whatever with half his face in there. I'm like, man, this is not good news. That is a long time for Frank Gore to be.

He said, I'm going to look good. People are going to respect how I look in there. He's like, oh, this is going to be bad. I'm looking forward to it. Are you going? No, I'm not Gore to be. He said, I'm going to look good. People are going to respect how I look in there. He's like, oh, this is going to be bad. I'm looking forward to it, man. Are you going? No, I'm not going to go. It's in Tampa, right? Hey, we're going.

We're going. Come on, D-Bud. Ah, damn. D-Bud, come on. I'll let you know. I'll let you know. Ah! Unbelievable.

For Frank. For Frank. I'm going to watch it. Damn sure going to watch it. For Frank. Yeah, for Frank. Go ahead, Connor. D-Bud, what do we think is going to watch it. Damn sure going to watch it. Yeah, person. For Frank. Yeah, for Frank. Go ahead, Connor.

Deebo, what do we think is going to happen with the Seahawks? Because obviously, you know, the season hasn't gone as they hoped. And now Pete Carroll saying he's done with these press conferences. Russell really not cooking anymore. What do you think is going to happen there? I mean, I think they go their separate ways. You saw, I mean, where there's smoke, there's fire. And there was definitely some smoke this offseason.

That was after 11-12 win season. So after this one, however it ends, I think they end up going their separate ways. I know before the season, Russ was like, hey, me and Pete, we're on the same page. Never been better. But I think it's going to get ugly, and it'll be a breakup there at the end of the season. Ty? D-Butt, what about the Bills? Obviously, the Colts look like they're coming into form right now and are very good.

But, like, are the Bills in trouble? Do they kind of stink, actually? I mean, I don't want to call them frontrunners. But, I mean, talent, they just got to be more physical, man. I mean, it's kind of like a throwback league right now. Like, guys, the physical teams are kind of separating themselves themselves in the trenches and you definitely don't see that with buffalo um obviously josh allen is a super talented quarterback but when he struggles like he struggles and his defense they came in top of the league but on this old line and jonathan taylor ran literally all over him so um they got some questions they got to be answered at this point

in season no i mean but the afc the nfl right now is still wide open so they got some questions that got to be answered at this point in the season. No, I mean, but the AFC, the NFL right now is still wide open. So they got enough talent, enough guys out there to figure it out. How about that dart throw by Josh Allen, that touchdown? That was filthy. Did I dig? Yes. That was bad. There's nothing you can do about that.

That's when you come to the sideline, you look at coach, coach looks at you, and hey, yes, nothing you're going to do about that. He put that thing on a rope right over your shoulder. That's unbelievable. Go ahead, AJ. Sorry, bub. What about Tom Brady and the Bucs? Do you think they still have that same kind of magic they had last year

to make a run? And how does the night go? Let's get right into it. That's a great lead-in question there, AJ. I mean, you know, I'm still a team I'm not worried about. I can't be worried about Brady, you know, around Thanksgiving. I got to bet on him to figure it out. Vita Vea is a huge piece for that defense.

Him being healthy I think will be super important. But I think they'll be all right down the stretch. And since it is open, you don't want to leave the opportunity for a guy like Brady and the Bucs to get hot, and I think they will. They haven't won a game in four weeks, but I think they get rolling here late in the season. They get a win tonight, but they don't cover, what is it, a 10.5 now? 10.5-11. It's been bouncing back and forth.

Okay, yeah, I don't see them covering 10.5. Okay, have you watched the film on them? What's the difference between this year and last year during the playoff run post-bye week? You know, even in the playoff run, they weren't really clicking all cylinders on offense, but their defense was playing super, super good. But I playoff run, they weren't really clicking all cylinders on offense,

but their defense was playing, you know, super, super good and so on. But I think the offense, they figured it out. They got more efficient. Antonio Brown being in that lineup, I think, will make a huge difference. Obviously, Mr. Gronk as well. But I think A.B. coming back will pay huge dividends for this offense. And Brady, he just, I don't know what it is right now. Washington, New Orleans, like these teams have kind of got after him early. He's been a little turnover prone, but I think, you know,

I think 12 still figures it out. I think they'll be all right. And NBA left, which they'll figure it out. When A.B. gets back in there, that's just what? Everybody has single now? Everybody has single? So that just changed the game completely? Is there, is A.B. viewed as you think still one guy, two guy,

with Evans there and Godwin there? I think by players, by players, by coach, anybody that's watching that film, you can still see that 81, if he's healthy, he's still wide receiver one on damn any team. The issue is when you're playing the Bucs, you still got Mike Evans, who's another wide receiver one, another Hall of Fame caliber wide receiver who you have to kind of lean that safety over and protect whatever corners on him most weeks um so that's that's the that's the problem you got and then you got godwin who and so it's a lot of uh options that they have on the outside then they can run the game be physical it can run the ball and be physical so uh that's the problem that you're facing they got

a fully fully loaded clip i haven't seen ronald jones or leonard fornette much this year have we have we there's like a four net Yeah, just in spurts there. I wonder how they'll continue to adjust. You know, that's a lot of veteran brains down there. How will they get it all back in sync? Because now is the time to go. We're talking to Darius Butler, nine-year NFL vet, host of the Man to Man podcast.

Go ahead, Diggs. D-Butt, there's a lot of defenses around the league dealing with injuries. Like, when you're a starter on the defense, you look around and you're like, do you look and just go, that fucking fucking guys not supposed to be on the field like how does the defense look at that are you talking about pittsburgh right now one of the few one of the few d but i mean it's next man up and it's tough i mean i put up i would say a value effort last night missing joe hay Joe Hayes, missing Minka, missing T.J. Watt, who would have been a defensive player of the year conversation.

Cam Hayward played his ass off. Guys flew around. But it's tough, man, because it does become, you know, it's obviously a talent gap between those type of players that I just named and whoever's going to be replacing them. But they flew around. They play hard. But, I mean, it's tough when you're missing that much talent on one side of the ball.

So, shout out to Cam, though, man. The way he's been playing all year and the way he played last night, it's unbelievable. I mean, I know he got away with a little ha! How you doing? There had to be something. I'm excited to hear his reasoning by it. He said he didn't mean to do it.

He said he didn't mean to. He was kind of caught underneath it. He's still pissed about the Penguins, I think. Yeah, he's pissed about the Penguins being owned by the Fenway Sports Group. He was not happy. By the way... he's not known as a dirty player though oh he's hall of famer no no no he like the conversation now about cam is hey this guy is owed respect this guy like hall of fame player is the conversation i think about him and everybody was talking about that four six that justin herbert was running and i was only watching the clips because i was calling a 10-hour survivor series last night but i was so was only watching the clips because I was calling a 10-hour Survivor Series last night.

So I only saw the clips, and everybody was talking about Justin Herbert. Oh, he can move. This guy, remember how fast? And I'm like, a 300-pound dude just fucking tackled him 50 yards down the field. Unbelievable player. That was impressive. I think Pittsburgh will certainly figure it out. What if Tampa Bay doesn't, though?

I was just thinking about what you said there. So you got the Giants plus 11, plus 10.5 tonight on Monday Night Football. The Giants have looked terrible. They are a bad football team. Are they not? They are. I mean, they played the Chiefs tough. They beat the Raiders.

I mean, they can show up and beat you. Dave Jones can click and he can run for damn near 100 yards on any night. So you got players like that. I don't know what's the status with Saquon being back in the lineup, but the Giants, they're going to go out there and play hard. Well, we appreciate you. Oh, Cam, shit, have to ask you about Cam.

Your thoughts? I loved it. I mean, he's only a week and a half into Joe Brady's offense. I don't know how much more they're going to go. Are they setting themselves up for quite an interesting situation at the end of the season? They're in the NFC South, so you've still got the big bad wolf Tom Brady and the boys

in there. Tepper, the owner, the richest guy in the NFL, wants to have success immediately. He wants to win. They're paying Cam a lot of money I think to kind of settle the differences of the past that potentially happened and get back on good graces. But what do you expect here, and what will the Panthers do in the end

if there's a moderate amount of success but not the amount that Tepper has been expecting since he's arrived? I mean, if Cam plays well, he played very good last week, especially if you look at the circumstance of how long he's been there. I feel like he's played well. He's going to continue to bring energy to that stadium, to that team. If they're going to run here, you've got to look at bringing them back on a short-term deal.

Now, it's obviously still going to depend on what's going on with Deshaun and his issues. I still think that's the guy that you go after if you've got a chance to, if you're Carolina. But outside of that, I mean, Cam, it looks like he's setting himself up for a good situation going into next year if he keeps playing the way he is right now. He's got weapons around him.

He looked good as a passer. Made some night. That throw up in real to C-Mac for that touchdown. That was a dime that you don't see from Cam often. So I'm excited about his future there. I think he's pumped to have Christian McCaffrey back as well. What a superstar. Oh, yeah.

Can't wait to see what happens with the Panthers. Can't wait to see what happens tonight. Isthers. Can't wait to see what happens tonight. Is Darius Butler going to be right or is he going to be wrong? No, no, no. Come on, D-Butt. Man, it's been stressful these last few weeks. No, don't let it beat you down.

Don't let it beat you down. Nothing makes sense in the gambling world, Darius. You're probably too smart to gamble. Nah, I'm just going to start flipping the coin. Well, that actually does happen. It works. 38-0-1 or something like that in Detroit. Currently riding on hammer down.

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because there is a story happening in the association. The game's biggest star, the greatest of all time in this genre of basketball. Thank you. A man who plays a different sport than Michael Jordan played. And we all learned that as we were watching the last dance. We're like, oh, they're dribbling the ball over their heads. Also trailblazing.

Let's assume that LeBron would be able to dribble it incredibly slowly and take advantage of all the unathletic, uncoordinated power body whites that are underneath there. Let's assume LeBron would. Now also, I think Jordan would have been able to adapt to today's game. So whenever you get into a who's better argument, you're talking about two different sports. And that happens.

Two different people too. Every. Well, yeah, that's why you would have a who's better. It's not like they're a split personality, same person. But every day they have that conversation. Oh, yeah. It's two different sports. a who's better. It's not like they're a split personality, same person. But every day they have that conversation. Oh, yeah. It's two different sports. You can't compare.

They would both be successful in each other's areas. Let's just respect greatness until they punch somebody in the face. Joining us now, senior insider for the stadium and writer for The Athletic, ladies and gentlemen, Shams Sharani. Yeah, Shams! Different look. Come on, fellas. What's going on? What a jacket. This is little winter Shams here. I like what we're doing. Man, Shams! Different look. Come on, fellas. What's going on?

With a jacket. This is little winter Shams here. I like what we're doing. Man, man. Casual Mondays, you know, only on the McAfee show. Well, I appreciate you joining us. Basketball is happening, so anytime that happens, we have to bring you in to learn what's going on.

LeBron, AJ, keep it together. LeBron punched a guy right in the face. So much so, he's bleeding profusely. Something switches in his brain where he says, I'm cool, I'm cool. Goes back to fight. Almost gets dropped by DeAndre Jordan. Causes a massive scene with the game's biggest star. Brody was ready to go.

What is going to be the fallout, Shams? And how does everybody feel about Isaiah? I saw AD say, get the fuck out of here. I saw Gilbert Arena say, hey, pal, get the fuck out of here. Is that what is going to happen from this, or what do you see happening here? So the league will review this today. I'm told the investigative interviews haven't taken place yet, but it will happen over the course of the day,

and I would expect something either tonight or tomorrow as far as a ruling. But let's go back to the play. And clearly it looked like LeBron's arm or whatever was in a grip a little bit by Isaiah Stewart. And when you saw him flow back, it looked like he was trying to get out from under Isaiah Stewart's arm. And obviously he did strike him around the face. And that area right here above his eyebrow, obviously obviously a very sensitive area very easy to get cut so that's what happened he was gashing with blood but you could tell right after the play happened it looked inadvertent and i'm told lebron james has made clear to to you know whether

it was on the court or post game that that was an inadvertent hit to isaiah stewart that he didn't mean to do that it was not intentional but as as it happened, you could see him kind of say, listen, I'm sorry, man. And he pointed down, he looked out. But once Isaiah Stewart got up, I don't know if he could taste the blood from his face or what. But as soon as he got up, we saw what happened. He was charging LeBron multiple

times. And the one thing about this, it was a great spectacle, if you want to call it that. But there weren't any really punches, any real significant contact, substantial contact being made after the fact. So it was definitely a lot of pushing and shoving, a lot of moving around by guys. But really, there wasn't much to it substantially. And I'm told LeBron James did try to track down Isaiah Stewart's number post-game to apologize to Stewart again and let him know that it was an inadvertent hit to his face and so the league is going to have to review

it but one thing to keep in mind Pat LeBron James doesn't have a history of this he's not a you know this is not something that's common with him he this would be a first-time offense for him so I think you would have to factor that in for any type of league discipline and I know AJ has a lot of nba questions and i apologize for jumping in here i think that is his second time being ejected ever in his entire career ever ever ejected in a game and so he hasn't been suspended ever so that's because the refs obviously are the uh go ahead yeah so so so no so i think you've got to keep that in account whether you want to levy a suspension or a fine. You saw what happened a couple weeks ago with Nikola Jokic and Marquise Morris. That was intent to hurt Marquise Morris.

That was an intent from behind to hurt Marquise Morris or to push him down or whatever. There wasn't – if you want to take LeBron James' word for it, if you want to even look at the play, there wasn't really an intent here. It looked inadvertent. It was a hell of a shot, though. Let's move around the NBA a little bit. LeBron's stealing the headlines because he's LeBron. He punched

a guy in the mouth. Or in the eye. I'm so sorry. I'll be excited to see how your commissioner over there in the NBA, Adam Silver, handles this. It was almost a mouse-at-the-pals situation. The anniversary was just three days ago. I mean, what the hell is going on in Detroit?

Chaos, obviously. It's always Detroit. Let's move around the NBA a little bit, though, here. Ben Simmons, is he playing basketball again? Can he shoot the ball yet? What is going on with Ben Simmons? Not anytime soon. And, you know, I've done a couple reports over the last couple weeks, guys, but there's really no signs that Ben Simmons is anywhere closer to getting back on the court than he was several months ago.

He, in his mind, believes that he needs to take time to better his mental health. And for Philadelphia's perspective, it's, listen, man, you've got to show proof that you're not able to play on the court. And if you don't, we're expecting you to be on the court. So there's a clear philosophical difference of opinions on where the situation stands so until they find some common ground listen it's not good for either side that this is what's happening ben sims is 25 in the prime of his career i think we all want to see him back on the floor not sitting on the sidelines not participating in in workouts that aren't anything to do with the Philadelphia 76ers. People want him back on the floor.

It's just right now there's no signs of him being back on the court. And I'm told Philadelphia hasn't really even been ramping up trade conversations around him. I think around the league, as far as trade convos go, there aren't much conversations going on. So last week the Sixers did fine Ben Simmons for not showing up and playing and traveling on their six-game road trip. They have a couple games left on that trip. They were expecting Ben Simmons to be there. He wasn't there. So it's really a standoff, Pat, that is going to continue, I think, for the foreseeable future until Ben Simmons is traded because I don't see a way that Ben Simmons steps foot back on that floor in Philadelphia. Wow. Dramatic.

Shams, is Golden State back? Especially, I know Clay Thompson will be back eventually. The way Steph is playing, everything that's going on there, are they going to win it all? They're back. I mean, you've got to look at this team. One through 15, really, they're so deep. Gary Payton II, they keep them as a 15th roster. I don't know how much you guys have seen.

He's been dunking everything in sight. He's been a pleasure to watch. And this team, they might be deeper than they ever have been. And it's crazy to say that because that was a team, there was a team with Kevin Durant multiple years. There was that 14-15 team that was really special. 15-16 team that was obviously iconic winning 73 games. But as far as depth, they're so deep in Golden State right now.

And Clay Thompson, I reported yesterday, he has been fully cleared to do anything on the basketball court. Medically, he is cleared. Let's go! Let's go! Let's go! Let's go back! Medically, Klay Thompson can do anything on the floor.

He's been scrimmaging five on five last week, this week. For the next several weeks, I think he's going to continue to scrimmage, continue to ramp up for a return somewhere, Pat, in that December, that Christmas range. And I don't know if it will be before Christmas so he can play on Christmas Day or after Christmas and closer to New Year's. But the fact that he's ramping up, I would look at this next month as his training camp. This is really going to be the time period where he's going to be getting back on that floor, doing a lot of practicing, doing a lot of scrimmaging,

and doing a lot of the five-on-five drills that he has to get back in basketball shape, because that is right now the only thing that's holding Klay Thompson back, making sure that he's not huffing and puffing when he does get back on that floor. Can he still shoot, or what? I mean, listen, he's Klay Thompson. I'm sure he's going to be dialed in whenever he gets back on the floor. Because Steph is back to doing that bullshit. Oh, yeah.

Steph's back on his bullshit. You know, back when the Nurse Currys were something. That's right. Back when the Stephon Curry Ones were coming out, and he was getting laughed at at Under Armour stores. He was pulling up from everywhere, and it seemed like he was shooting at a bigger hoop. Now he's going to have a little bit more open court.

He's not going to have to do as much insane shit because his Splash Bro is going to be back, Shams. I mean, Klay Thompson is going to be back here the next month, month and a half. What if they stink after he comes back? It's been, what, like 500 days or something? How long has it been? Listen, even a Klay Thompson at 70%, 80% is better than most two guards in the league. Jordan Poole is great.

Last night, I think he had 33 points, career-high, eight or nine threes. You move him to the six-man role clay thompson starts i'm sure he'll come back on a minute's limit and they're not going to rush him back and so once he's back this team is going to be deeper than ever i think they're they're a real threat 15 and two in the western conference right now one of the best teams in the league if not the best team going right now you'll you add clay thompson and and James Wiseman eventually. Oh, Wiseman. Yeah. Big guy. Number two pick. Yeah, he's like a course out of Memphis.

That's right. Hardaway. Yeah, Penny. Come on, dude. What are you talking about? T-I-G-E-R-S. Tiger guys. I did that with Penny. College game day.

Fucking learned basketball, dude. I knew Wiseman was going to be a guy whenever he was standing right there. That's right. Walking on Beale Street. Beale Street right there. Yeah, absolutely. Go ahead, dude. I knew Wiseman was going to be a guy whenever he was standing right there. That's right. Walking on Beale Street right there. Absolutely. Go ahead, Tom. Shams, what the hell happened with Staples? I thought it was a lifetime deal.

Do I have to call it Crypto.com Center in Los Angeles? Yeah, it's unbelievable. Crypto.com Arena, baby. Sorry. Yeah, I mean, listen. What's crazy is they had a lifetime deal with Staples. They signed a lifetime deal with Staples about 10 12 years ago and so quietly aeg which owns the lake which has part ownership i believe in the laker ag entertainment they got out of that deal and they end up doing this crypto.com deal i i mean

this is a very lucrative deal i'm told some of the 600 700 million dollar range that's big money for that arena it is the it's the most richest naming rights deal of a u.s venue to date well it's the staples center i mean that's it i mean it's an iconic place why don't they call it the crypto.com staples arena there we go perfect that's i mean that would make sense well the sears tire is not willis you know no no that's right there's money that gets involved in everything. Last question here, speaking of money, and the boys might have some that follow basketball a lot closely, and we're talking to Sean Sharani, a legend inside.

Howdy, boy, Sean. Hey, baby Sean. Kyrie Irving. I performed in a Barclays Center last night. I put on the floor. I put on a show. Is Kyrie going to do that ever? Is that going to happen with Kyi or how what's going on and that that'll and is kevin durant pissed or what

has that gone any different way than it was a few weeks ago first of all pat mcafee performing at barclays before kairi does i don't know if that's a good or bad thing honestly i think that's a pretty bad thing it wasn't my best night wasn't a, it wasn't triple double double double. I put up a couple of good shots. I mean, there's, there's, there's no change on this situation. Kyrie Irving, there's, there's no signs that he's going to get the vaccine. So unless that mandates and there's going to be a new mayor coming in there, Eric Adams, he comes in there in January and he said already, we're not dropping this COVID-19 mandate and the rates are increasing in New York city and across the country. So there's not really a reason for them to drop the mandate.

They have to keep it going. So unless they drop that mandate, Kyrie Irving right now is not playing. So I think it's going to continue to ratchet up. Brooklyn's going to have to make a decision. Are we going to keep – Sean, isn't there a new mayor coming in, though, that could change it? That's what he just said, AJ. Listen.

We need a new mayor. AJ, though, that could change it? That's what he just said, AJ. Listen. He's got a mandate, AJ. AJ, are you listening? It's basketball. It's Monday, not Sunday, dude. The new mayor has said he wants Kyrie Irving back on the floor. So if you read some of his comments, it's clear that he is a Nets fan. He said he's a Nets fan. So, listen, right now he's saying that he's not going to drop the mandate,

but we'll see what happens once he takes office. I think there is still some thought that he could change course and drop the mandate, but if these rates keep rising at the level that they are, I don't see what reason he'd have to drop the mandate just for Kyrie Irving. I don't know much about politics, but I think if his first order was to make it a special situation for Kyrie, that'd be good. That'd be great for political power.

I don't know about that one. Honestly, I don't think he can do that in his first month. I thought in Brooklyn that would be the move. Don't worry about it. Don't get the vaccine. We want Kyrie to play. My first move as mayor. He'd definitely win the boroughs. There's no question. He'd win that borough of Brooklyn for sure.

For the rest of the audience. He'd be getting killedough of Brooklyn for sure. Well, I'm just saying. For the rest of the audience. He'd be getting killed. That thing would be yodely, yodely. It's political. You win the boroughs, you win the city. Oh, imagine that first night where Kyrie. Oh, man.

The mayor's going to be like, this is me. Yeah. I saved that basketball. How about that? With the power of the pen, which pissed every human off on earth. It was great. Go ahead. That's politics, baby. Go ahead. It's politics, baby.

Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Shams, can we get a Zion update? We did see that there was a new type of nutritionist, possibly some new meals that they're serving down there for him. What's the deal? Will we ever see him play basketball again? How dare you? I mean, he's on track.

He's on track to return this season. Now, when could that be? Is that closer to Christmas? Is that after? But it is positive news. He's able to. He's on track to return this season. Now, when could that be? Is that closer to Christmas? Is that after? But it is positive news. He's able to do full contact. I'm told there will be an update in the next week that could clear him to play 5-on-5 basketball, which for them, that's the next step.

Like Klay Thompson, he has to get in shape. He has to get his basketball conditioning back. That's a big one. But once he gets back in 5-on-5, that'll start the movement for him getting back on the court. But right now, the Pelicans expect him to be back. So who's clearing him? Some cardio doctors? Like, we can't let him back on the court. He might die in the shape that he's in.

Is it a medical thing? What is it? No, it's his foot. His foot's not healed yet. From that Nike shoe in Duke? Is that what it's... No, he fractured his foot I believe sometime in July, August. So he still hasn't recovered from that, at least fully.

He's trying to do some running. He's trying to do some movement. And, again, he has to get in basketball shape for sure. So that's going to take place over this next month, month and a half. I want to let Zion know that we all believe in you, dude. We do. You've been his biggest fan, Pat. Take it easy on Thanksgiving, though, Zion. You haven't, though. I've been his biggest fan. Pat. Take it easy on Thanksgiving.

You haven't, though. I've been his biggest fan. I'm a huge fan. You are a scumbag. You want to see the guy play? All of this season is tough for you. You can't have an entire NFL tie on Thursday. That's all I'm saying. You don't need to make a six pass through the kitchen table.

He's not. He's fucking professional. This is unbelievable. I'm sorry about the unprofessionalism of the toxic table over here. Great question. Happily got an update. Can't wait to see Zion dunking from the foul line. Dunk.

Jumping off a trampoline. Sean's, thank you, man. We appreciate you. Any breaking news coming out today? Thank you. I've got nothing yet, but I'll keep you guys posted as always. Oh, that's why you're so casual. Casual Mondays. No news.

No news to break. That's unbelievable. What could come? Ben Simmons get fined again? What is the watch in the Shams world right now? No, I mean, we've got to see what happens with the league and LeBron James and Isaiah Stewart. What penalty will be?

Guys, LeBron James plays his first game at the Garden since everything – since fans are back allowed. No, Adam Silver ain't going to let Isaiah Stewart. There's no way LeBron's suspended. We're going to suspend LeBron James for his first game back at the Garden with full fans since the pandemic started. I mean, they might. They might, but – What you're saying is they won't.

It sure sounds like it. I'm not saying that. I'm saying it would be tough for everyone. It would be tough for LeBron. It would be tough for the fans to not see LeBron James play in his first game at the Garden. He loves playing at the Garden. He loves the Garden.

He loves the Garden. Big game, TNT game. Oh, and they'll spit on him too while he's playing. That place gets rowdy, electrifying. Just like you, ladies and gentlemen senior insider at Stadium and Athletic did I get everything right there yeah

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