The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 544 - Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Week 11, Monday Night Football Recap, Justin Herbert, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 23, 2021

On today's show, Pat, AJ, and the boys chat about last night's Monday Night Football game between the Bucs and Giants, how the Bucs seem to be out of their slump, the Giants being awful, firing Jason Garrett, and what happens next with Joe Judge, Daniel Jones, and all the fallout from that game. Joining the program as he does every Tuesday is the reigning NFL MVP, Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Pat, Aaron, and AJ chat about the tough loss in Minnesota and why he feels good about where the offense is going, what's going on with his toe injury as it's been reported that it's more painful than turf toe, he gives a lesson on playing football as a Quarterback in the NFL, discusses some of the toughest environments he's played in, and much more (25:17-1:07:37). Next, last year's NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, LA Chargers Quarterback and friend of the show, Justin Herbert joins the program. Pat and Justin discuss his development as a QB coming off a huge Sunday Night win over the Steelers where he absolutely showed out, how things have changed for him this year, what he attributes his continued success to, playing in SoFi Stadium, and more (1:07:39-1:24:53). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, November 23rd. It is Thanksgiving week. Happy early Thanksgiving to you and yours. We'll be off Thursday. We are on today though. We got a big one. Justin Herbert stops by, Aaron stops by, AJ, the boys are on fire,

and we're in the middle of the NFL season. There's a lot to talk about. We can't thank you enough for joining us. Let's get to it. Congrats to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Getting back on track on Monday Night Football. And it doesn't matter if you watch on ESPN or ESPN2, during the Manning casting,

got a chance to see Kevin Hart fucking kill it. What are you quiet for? There was some hate yesterday from some people in this office about Kevin Hart being on the show. I am a massive Kevin Hart fan. I like Kevin Hart too. Kevin Hart joined the Monday Night Manning cast and crushed it. Hell yeah.

Bill Parcells still has his fastball. Yeah. Connalisa Rice, how you doing? Good conversation. Then Julian Edelman closed it out well. Learning from Peyton and Eli while watching that game was a thing of beauty because Peyton has yet to get a single call right on what an offense would do. So that makes me feel better because the guy who literally was an offensive coordinator

and one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time can't predict what other teams are doing. So how do we do it? Nobody knows. I did say Bucs minus 11. And then I tweeted Bucs by 1,000 after the game started. And they did not win by 1,000. But they did win by 20. And it never looked uncomfortable for them. Tom Brady obviously skirted.

Not for 10 yards. It was actually 11. That's a dumb question. How you doing? Keep it moving. My pliability is at an all-time high. Without Antonio Brown in the lineup. With Gronk returning, though.

Can certainly be quite a benefit to an offense, especially when you're playing against the Giants who stink. They stink. Yeah, they do. The Giants stink. They're not good at football. Great uniforms, though. Oh, yeah.

Awesome. Those uniforms they had on last night were absolutely unbelievable. Saquon Barkley, I know he's coming back from an injury and had another one and everything like that. Is he dead? He certainly looks like it. I had a couple different parlays that had anytime touchdown scores. Godwin, how you doing?

Thank you, man. How you doing? Godwin. And there was a lot of action, obviously. Cam Brate was in a lot of the plays that I thought Gronk was going to be in there, and I had a Gronk touchdown, anytime touchdown score in a lot of my parlays, and that ruined everything. Although, Gronk did have 70-some yards in his return.

He looked fantastic. That Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense, when Antonio Brown gets back in there I think we need to no longer question now with the Buccaneers defense who do they play against nobody that's the thing now yeah so it's hard to even judge the Buccaneers because the easiest thing to do after watching a game last night is like well Saquon Barkley for whatever reason pitter-patter then can't hit it anymore is it it him? Is it the team? Is it the scheme? Is it the strategy?

Is it Danny Dimes? What is it over there in New York that we haven't been able to see the Saquon Barkley that we all knew, we all loved, and we all had high hopes for? Is it potentially time for us to think about maybe Saquon going somewhere else, starting anew, maybe with a fresh chip on his shoulder, having to prove himself somewhere else, and maybe in a different vibe. Because the only conversation out of last night, Tom Brady still got it. The Bucs get a big win

down in Tampa on Monday Night Football. The weather looked fantastic. Coach A.Q. Shipley was on TV before the game looking slim. His head shiny as it ever could fucking be. His calves looked gigantic. They didn't have Vita Vea last night. Thought Saquon was going to go. Thought he was going to go. Had alternate

run line or rush yards at like 40, which was minus 350 or something like that. Terrible bet. You can add it into a parlay to add a little juice. Didn't get it. No, he didn't. Didn't get any of it. So, is the Bucs defense back or are the Giants so inept? Which leads to the next question. Shout out to

Coach A.Q. Shipley. Speaking of coaches, people are saying they're trying to run the clapper on in New York. No. Yeah, yeah. The offense has been so good, though. Well, the offense has been terrible before he got there as well, though. So Jason Garrett inherited a bad offense with a terrible offensive line. And nothing has really changed since Jason Garrett has got the reins.

Now, we don't see nearly as much clapping and smiling as we had down in Dallas. But down in Dallas, there was like four or five years straight where everybody thought Jason Garrett was going to get fired because the averageness of the Cowboys did not lead up to the hype of what the Cowboys was before the season. But Jerry Jones said, Jason's lack of son to me. Okay, play quarterback here, he's head coach. This is a family decision we got to make. This ain't a coaching decision. This is a family decision we got to make. This ain't a coaching decision.

This is a family decision. And it took like three, four, five years for Jerry Jones to finally fire somebody that he calls his son and get him out of there. Mike McCarthy comes in. Team stinks. Last year, Dak gets hurt. Feels like they're a baby back. So I wonder if the Giants fans who had to play against Jason Garrett's very

averages for a long time in the same division said whenever he came in, this motherfucker's got about a year or two. We saw what he did in Dallas. It feels like here, after week 11 now has officially ended in an 18-week season, now the coaching hot seat, and this person stinks, that person

stinks, get him. Now, Orlovsky was calling for this five, six weeks ago. Oh yeah, he was. Not just for the coaches we're talking about right now, but any coaches could potentially get run out of a job five, six, seven weeks ago by Orlovsky. And he had footage, by the way, to prove that. But the NFL is a season. It is a grind. We live by it day by day.

Week 11, 18-week season. People have been fired by this point already. Ron Rivera was released like week five. I don't know what it was. It might have been later than that. It felt like it was early in the season. There is some seats getting hot.

Not just Jason Garrett. We have no idea what that looks like. And to be honest, nobody cares about the Giants, which is a problem. Oh, yeah.

Especially after listening to how Parcells talked about it and how much pride I think the Giants organization has in the history and the tradition and obviously Eli and everything going on with those teams. Strahan, it is nothing like that.

That team fucking stinks. They're like 20 and 60 or something over the last certain amount of years. There was a graphic last night. It said three and six best starts since like 2016 or something. That's stupid. Nobody cares about them, so that doesn't matter. Another team that stinks that everybody does seem to still care about because it was just a couple years ago, they almost won on a run.

Hey, there's fire naggy chants happening. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of let's go Brandons happening around. There's a lot of chants. Now in Chicago, fire naggy is being chanted, not just at Bulls games because they get so boring it and remember this is not new okay if fans get bored at games or games are going bad there's always two in pittsburgh okay you go to a penguins game it's bad you go to a pirates game it's bad you even

go to a steelers game it's bad here we go steelers here we go here we go that Steelers. Here we go. Here we go. That starts echoing through, like, if you're at a Penguins game and here we go, Steelers starts, it's just like a wave starting basically in a crowd. We are bored. This is not what we like to do. Anytime the wave comes. Not good.

Not good. Not good. There was a wave in the Barclays Center, a few of them, eight of them. Did the big laps turn the next game? No, no, on Sunday at Survivor Series. I was sitting there next to Sam Roberts actually in between matches. I wasn't calling. And all of a sudden we see like a little excitement come from one area

and then in the next one, then in the next one. And Sam and I actually saw the wave get birthed on Sunday. And me and Sam were like, oh, no. That's not good. I was like, Sam, they're starting to get some momentum. They just want six sections there. And then all of a sudden, lo and behold, that thing started taking. And it took the tractor another round.

Another round. Another round. Another round. Another round. And then a couple minutes later, somebody started it, and then they booed him, and then another chant happened. But the fire Nagy chants aren't just happening at Bulls games. They're happening at Nagy's kids' high school football.

No, not his son. Can't do that. Chicago's disgusting. Terrible people. Hey, Nagy with the catch or whatever position he plays in there. They're like, oh, yeah, that's right. He is here. Fire Nagy. I catch or whatever position he plays in there. Like, oh, yeah, that's right. He is here. Fire Nagy.

I mean, that is unbelievable. That is what life is like as a head coach, and that's not just going to slow down. They've got a game on Thanksgiving. If the Bears lose on Thanksgiving against a terrible football team. It's a win-win for us. They are playing a terrible football team. It is going to get very loud for Nagy, and he's not the only one. There will be other coaches that will join those seats soon,

and that's the NFL season. That's the business, and I guess we'll just see how it all plays out. We have Justin Herbert joining us in about 20 minutes or so. Can't wait to chat with Justin. The time, they said 1230-ish. 1230-ish, so we'll be able to figure that out three hours behind over there in Los

Angeles. I can't wait to chat with him. I assume it's going to be fantastic. Aaron Rodgers joins us on this beautiful Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. A couple hours from now. Can't wait to hear what's going on with the fucking toe. Come on, Aaron. How did it happen? So we learned about the egg, Cleopatra's egg, $100 million egg.

That's right. Last night on Raw. Raw, yeah. No, he might have had the other two, but The Rock gifted Cleopatra's egg to Vince McMahon. That's why Vince McMahon was so worried, actually. Not just because it's $100 million. Vince McMahon shits out $100 million. But The Rock gave it to him. He's upset. If I caught all the storyline accurately, that was not a part of the Dorden show at all.

He found it. Austin Theory had it. Austin Theory? Of course. How'd he steal it? Superstar Austin Theory. Yeah, Austin Theory, by the way, incredibly attractive dude. He knows it, understands it, very athletic. I don't think anybody could have guessed Austin Theory was the guy behind the 100 million dollar egg no definitely not the entire survivor series yeah the entire survivor seriously there is no way sammy zane i

guess was the only one uh but he was called a snitch by vince mcmahon well ko of sammy you know maybe that's the whole thing but ko fight he's not just going to steal things not on Sunday anyways the egg was found thank God thank God thank you Ray thank you Austin Theory hey we had an entire

Survivor Series trying to find this fucking thing you know 17 hour Survivor Series to find this Austin Theory misunderstanding

just wanted to take a selfie just want a selfie hey he understands the game the algorithm the Instagram he knows he has

a hundred million dollars egg in his picture that's gonna go yeah anyways that's not the only mystery happening in sports happy that got figured out by the way thank you thank you and to the incredibly unathletic looking fan that decided to take a 40 yard run up and spears seth rollins last night on raw and then seth rollins gets taken out and then puts him into a guillotine immediately. And Chavo Guerrero, who I am a fan of his work growing up, he said, remember when wrestlers were tougher than fans?

Seth is still working that camera right there. And then had no idea this dude comes stumbling, storming, running around the corner, tackles him. I think Seth got him in a guillotine immediately, hit him with a couple kicks, couple refs. And I am genuinely upset that I was not there. This is a... This is time for a free shot. This happened not in life do you get a lot of opportunities where it's like, hey, you're allowed

to just go punch this guy. If you punch him, everybody will be thankful for it. Bret Hart got stormed by a fan in his Hall of Fame induction. Ronda Rousey's husband, Travis Brown. He was in the ring. He saw the guy. I think he was in the ring before he even tackled

him. And then all of a sudden, it's like, I'm a professional fighter. I'm 6'10". I'm more powerful than him. And also, this is in society. I'm allowed. Beat the shit out of him. Beat the absolute shit out of them. Oh. Beat the absolute shit out of them. And then the FTR guys.

What are their names? North Carolina guys. They're good guys. Fuck. FTR, their tag team, they're now in AEW. They were helping us sport them out. And there's a clear video of, oh, boom, right there. Because that is a time that you can do that

and you saw like three refs get in there I saw a couple and then there was a couple boom in that whole thing what a slob this guy was that came running in there what a bum they found the egg this guy's in jail I do wish that Seth because Seth broke character a little bit

I think he called him a bitch and a fucker which is awesome maybe let him cut those promos because it sounded very natural coming out of his mouth. Happy, that's okay. They found the egg. This guy's in jail. Now, what happened to Aaron's toe? Good question.

Someone find out. Well, we are the only people. I hope. I think we are the only people that could potentially find out. Aaron will join us in about two hours or whatever. Ty Schmidt, if, how, I tried to read all the journalism books last night. Last night I tried to.

I didn't have enough, like, watch the game, you know, fall asleep because I hadn't slept the night before. Sleep a little. Find a little bit of that because I hadn't slept in like 48 hours or whatever. You just had read all the medical books. Last week, because of Dr. Joe Rogan and everything. Took the bar exam. Yeah, I did take the bar exam but i i actually couldn't get into after last

interview but if anything ever happens in the future with a pandemic and a vaccine and everything like that i did we're gonna go i did take the test and i'm ready for the follow-up question okay in this particular one i tried to read all the journalism books last night what if he just what if he no comments us what if he dances around he's an incredibly intelligent man what if we don't get the answer are we the fucking assholes then all of a sudden ty schmidt what are you expecting out of this conversation i mean i don't know i think we got to dig a little bit because it was i mean we you mentioned it yesterday like we made a joke out of it you know it was trending we did the hashtag and everything and then you know the robot palacero is reporting that hey this is actually like a very serious

deal i mean guys who get turf toe typically are out you know what two to four weeks three to six the robot Palacero is reporting that, hey, this is actually like a very serious deal. I mean, guys who get turf toe typically are out, you know, what, two to four weeks, three to six weeks. Like, Packers can't afford to have Aaron Rodgers not play. We saw it a couple weeks ago. Jordan Love, like, they're in a position right now where the NFC is so top heavy, too. Like, this guy needs to be healthy. We need to know what the hell is going on with his toe.

I know nobody likes to talk about it with Aaron because, you know, he is like this hippie, whatever. Sure. Just kind of like that. If he's playing through like a broken fucking toe down there and running and moving or whatever, if it's worse than turf toe that takes people out two or three weeks, it's broken. That's a fractured toe. Everything moves off your toe. You stop your toe. That's your pinky toe normally.

Terrible. You have to walk like this. Big toe actually fractured. Full-time stubbing of the toe. That changes everything. It's literally every movement you make is affected by it. What a tough hippie son of a bitch this guy is. Well, and that's why I didn't think it was really that serious

because in the Seahawks game, which would have been the game right after it happened, it didn't really look like he was favoring it. He scrambled a couple times, and it didn't look like he was kind of limping or favoring it at all. But then you hear before the Vikings game, and I'm sure it's painful as hell, but

he's too stubborn of a hippie. He's too stubborn. I don't think he's practicing again this week. Oh, I think they got it out to preface like, hey, if you see him miss any time. Yeah. Like, this is what is happening. I think they did it to get in front of, hey, we need Sunday.

We already saw him whenever he's out of the building for 10 days, obviously. We'll have him in the building. We just need him to get to Sunday. Then we have a bye week. We will, in our task probably, with the ones to find out what happened to the toe. And I have not slept a wink, you trying to trying to figure it out yeah uh at boston connor um obviously the aaron rogers conversation should be good but i think what i want to talk to you about is the ever evolving slate of information that we have about the bill belichick tom brady

relationship oh okay so you know there's, there's books, there's quotes, there's secondhand, thirdhand, fourthhand stories. There's dads getting involved. Oh, yeah. There's a lot that we've heard of these two goats. Greatest of all time, greatest coach, greatest GM of all time, 20 years greatest dynasty of all time. Hell, yeah.

Two alphas, you know, that obviously weren't able to make it work forever for whatever reason depending upon whose third fourth sixth connection story yeah do you listen to last night tom brady paid an homage to uh bill belichick an old coach of mine said it's not about who you play it's how you play him uh that was to bill belichick what do you think's going on are they you think tom brady is like hey everybody needs to relax i said why didn't he say his name hey tom we know you're talking about bill he's the only old coach aside from the ones that you currently have that you've ever had but i mean you know i think it was blown out of proportion for a while last year i think there was a real thought that oh these two were button heads for

you know the last three years of the the Brady and Belichick era. But that's kind of, you know, fallen to the wayside. It does seem as though Brady might be in, you know, some sort of ownership role in New England. What? So, yeah. You pitched this earlier. This is a theory. Yeah, it's a theory I have.

How? How? How and why? Kraft always says, I love Tom like a son. He is like a son to me. Brady said after the Bucks-Pats game on the field in his postgame interview, you know, when it's all said and done, the fans will be able to see a lot more of me around here.

Well, that's because he's not playing football for another city. He's not playing football for another city, but no one retires to Boston. They really don't do that. They stay down in Tampa. They stay down in Florida. A lot of the whites from Boston, you're saying, retire. They flock down. Just like Tom. Just like Tom did. They don't flock up. Nobody says, hey, I'm down here In Florida. A lot of the whites from Boston, you're saying, retire. They flock down. Just like Tom.

Just like Tom did. They don't flock up. Nobody says, hey, I'm down here now. I can't wait. Birds don't fly north for the winter, Pat. Snowbirds. You can check science. Snowbirds don't count.

Penguins can't fly. Duh. Penguins can play hockey, though. So fucking good. That's right. That's why the Bruins bought them and they're not part of the bottom. The Bruins aren't. That's not about this.

We're talking about Bruins top. I think there's a chance Brady gets maybe 5% of the team. That's so much money. A lot of money. But also think about what New England would be as an organization if they didn't have Brady. They wouldn't be one of the highest values. So is he going to give Bill some too then?

And Bill's just going to pass that on down to Steve? Or how do you think that works? Because he gives if craft gives tom yeah some then immediately kind of say oh craft did like tom more than he liked bill because he's not giving bill any then it just generates even more bullshit and drama it'd be i don't know if when you pitched this earlier yeah i was no fucking way is an owner just handing a player a percent especially five percent that's a lot yeah it's a lot of money and all these business moves that happen i've been pitched by companies that are failures and have never worked and will never work a half a percent and

they acted as if that was a big deal fuck off yeah okay that is not some five percent would be huge in that whole thing but to your point that'd that would be an easy way, just like Old Tepper did with Cam Newton. Hey, here's $10 million. Okay, we apologize for how it ended. We're much better with you around us, though. That would be a lot larger than a $10 million investment. But to Tom, hey, we want you to legitimately still feel like you're a part of our family. Because Peyton Manning has a statue here.

Yeah. Okay, he got his thing. He lives in Denver, for sure. He is in Denver full-time in their community. He's no longer here. Maybe Kraft would like to keep old Tom Brady around. That'd be a great way to do it. And Tom's a businessman.

Exactly. Tom is a businessman. Yeah. He is very, very, very good off the field at what he does. Maybe that would be a brilliant move by Tom. Well, and 5% is a lot, like you just said. It could be 2.5%. It could be 1%.

Which is still in a massive amount. Yes, a ton by Tom. Well, and 5% is a lot, like you just said. It could be 2.5%. It could be 1%. Which is still in a massive amount. Yeah, a ton of money. And I do assume the statue is probably coming of both Bill and Tom because obviously they're going to bring him back

when it's all said and done and retire 12 in New England. It's not like anybody's going to wear that jersey again. So that's just me spitballing. Isn't Vince Wilford? Because what did I get all his fucking kisses

on his cheek for? I'm not getting a percentage. What about me? What about me? I'm like a son of Emma. I'll take a goddamn quarter. I was there for the Super Bowls. Do they have to give him a percentage?

Can't they just open it up for him to buy? I mean, Giselle's got all the money in the fucking world. Tom's got him. I don't know how it is with the dilution of shares in the NFL. I have no idea. Like, the Packers can do it. They're publicly owned. I don't know about how.

That scam they're running. It's like the Colts here in town. Okay? Three daughters. Kaylin. Carly. And one that stays out of the public eye. Smart.

I was trying to decide whether or not I should say her name, obviously. Yeah. But she is not real. She stays out of the public eye. Yeah, she stays out of the public eye. Who am I to say? You're not going to make that choice for eye. Yeah, she stays out of the public eye. Who am I to say? You're not going to make that choice for her. No, I'm not doing that.

No. But, like, that team probably stays within the family, right? So they would probably all get a third of it. What if one of them doesn't want to be in anymore? Then what, 33% is potentially up for sale? And then how does that whole thing work? And then how much money do I have to pay to who? Well, that's basically what's going on with the Chargers right now

and the Spanos family. Like, two of the siblings want to keep it. Not that any of the Urses would want to sell, by the way. I am not saying that at all. Kalen, Carly, and I believe the one that is kind of... They're all very much involved. This is not like a, hey, they are day-to-day in the building, very much a part of it.

I'm just saying that situation in comparison. I don't want anybody to think that they are even... That is not what they're doing, but you're right. At the Chargers, this is kind of something that's going on. Well, there's no bullshit involved with that. You know, it's like people aren't, you know, kicking the tires. I'm like, oh, I think I might want to buy ownership in an NFL team. Like if someone comes to, you know, the Chargers or the Colts

or whatever, if that were to happen, like, you know, it's like, okay, well, this person has money. They're going to do this. And it's, the NFL is a business that everybody're gonna do this and it's the the nfl is a business that everybody would like to get into yeah because amazon oh yeah okay you know the richest company in the world with the richest man in the world the company that through this pandemic actually got better yeah yep it was it was crafted for a pandemic basically now it'll change everybody's life forever.

We've all been affected by Amazon in one way or another. There's other companies that have adapted Amazon's model and other entire industries have done it. Amazon kind of set the precedent for all this. That's why they have everybody's money. They have everybody's money. Not just like, I think at first they were tech stuff. Then they moved in obviously groceries and every they are everybody's money they have they're talking to the nfl about gaining like

more rights amazon is in talks with the country's richest sports league about acquiring up to a 49 percent stake in the nfl network red zone and other digital entities by the way shout out to front office sports i wonder how much you guys are for sale. I don't think you thought that I forgot about that, but the NFL hired Goldman Sachs in June to negotiate a deal for its media property. Goldman Sachs, they created their own

market in the stock market. Goldman Sachs, it is riddled with interesting stories and controversies with their handling and business maneuvers. They have all the cash as well. Oh, yeah. What the hell just happened?

That was Zito. But he would say right now that... That wasn't me. It wasn't Z. Nailed it. What the fuck is he watching? I don't know. Live video?

We are live right now. My laptop was up there. Jackie music video on YouTube. We were singing it yesterday. Zito, I fucking love you, dude. I love you so much. By the way, he said some damning things in that song to then follow up with, it wasn't me.

Yeah, he did. Tell me, man. Okay, Zito just gave me word that 1230 is locked in for Justin Herbert, so we have to get to a break relatively soon. Thank you, Zito, for being able to juggle all those things, including a sing-along with Shaggy. That may be Z. Now that the world's opening back up,

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that he calls into every single Tuesday during the football season, a man that never gets talked about ever, about anything that ever happens in his life to him, with him, involving him. Ladies and gentlemen, the only time this man has spoke about is right now during this show. So let's gather it all in and enjoy the hell out of this might have a tell issue beat covid is the reigning defending undisputed mvp of the nfl aaron rogers hey dude do i have to have an intro every single week? So the issue is the computer that calls you is also the computer that runs the intro video that we do.

So to get you on, we're already live, you know, and nobody wants to hear. So it's really just a pastime for me. So I'll start doing different things, though. But, yeah, you're going to have to fucking hear it, dude. That's the way it's going to have to go. Okay, just switch it up a little bit here and there. Maybe I'll let AJ different things, though. But, yeah, you're going to have to fucking hear it, dude. That's the way it's going to have to go. Okay, just switch it up a little bit here and there. Maybe I'll let AJ do it one time. Oh, I like that, actually.

Next week, AJ comes back in from the hour. Oh, I can't wait to hear it. I'm sure he'll say some magical things. Let's talk about your life right now. That was a heartbreaker, obviously, for fans. I couldn't imagine you. Just thoughts on how the game went. And now we're a couple days removed from it have you moved past it yeah i mean it's always on to the next opponent uh at this time during the week we get to rehash on this show which is great

but let's dive into a myth an incompletion you had in the first quarter two days ago that you know you are trying to get past but let's dive into it a, an incompletion you had in the first quarter two days ago that you are trying to get past, but let's dive into it a little bit. We apologize for that, but it is nice to hear from you. I appreciate it. I sidebar with you guys how much I enjoy our conversations. I think a decent portion of the viewership probably thinks, especially new viewers, that AJ might be muted or a mute in general. Just the people that see the clips.

We're here for you, buddy. We're here for you. We're not here to hear me speak. We want to hear the old COVID cowboy, Dr. Rogan, Aaron Rodgers speak, not me. There you are. There you are. Already. I love it.

I love it. That's great. Did you feel like you started out cold in the game against Minnesota though because I was watching along in a closet to the Spanish version at the Barclays Center live on a TV and I couldn't hear what they were saying but watching it felt like

third quarter down 13 you threw a ball to Devontae and then you went to Devontae again then you scrambled one then there was a pass interference and you threw a dart to Devontae, and then you went to Devontae again. Then you scrambled one. Then there was a pass interference, and you threw a dart to De... DeGuarra. DeGuarra. Was there something to that, like when you find it?

Is there anything to that, or is that just like an ignorant take from watching? I felt like I was in a rhythm early on. We just missed on a few plays. We had a couple things detail- that that weren't great in the execution on a few of the early drives but probably we moved the ball pretty well most of the game the drive that really got us going was was the drive that started with uh a little over three minutes left rolled into the two minute and you know threw a touchdown to uh josiah there at the end of the first half and then you know counting that drive counting that drive, there was a kneel down that J-Lo took.

And then, you know, we scored on four straight possessions, really, you know, four touchdowns in a row. So we got into a nice rhythm starting with a two-minute drive. You know, Mike Zimmer's defense is always going to throw different things at you. They had a couple good wrinkles. They brought Harrison a number of times by himself. They had him playing kind of a nickel safety on the first play of the game. They brought a new pressure, which they always do.

They got us the first time with it. And the second time we picked up really good, and the second time was the 75-yarder to – MVF. And the beauty in that play is, you know, I'm sure they talked about it on the sidelines. It's a fantastic schematic blitz. You know, Vikings are known for their double-A pressures.

Obviously, they're kind of, Mike and his staff is kind of the inventors of seven-up, eight-up, double-edges, double-mug. And what they were doing was they were double-mugging and putting Harrison to the strong side. And they've done a number of variations over the years. But they actually brought the strong backer and the strong A and wrapped the backside backer around with a loop by the three-tech nink. Really fucking good pressure. Schematically, really good.

First time, the three-tech was actually coming free off of it. The second time, we did a nice job. We picked it up. Lucas did a great job of redirecting. A.J. Dillon stepped up and blocked. Kendricks, I believe, was in the strong A. And then Royce at right guard did a nice job redirecting for Barr, who was looping around and gave me just enough time to sit in there

and hit Marquez. But that's the beauty of the game, is about making adjustments and being able to adapt. Again, to add another layer to that, our last two plays of the game were pretty good. I tried to call timeout on third down.

Lucas thought snap was on that second leg kick. And then Devontae does a freelance route that ends up turning to a touchdown, and the next play is a 75-yarder to Marquez. So we finished the game fairly strong on those two plays,

but the last play goes back to a sideline conversation with Lugetsi who ran the play earlier in the game and saw that they had dropped the corner out that's an old it's an old west coast uh concept that we ran all the time when mike was here kind of slowly it's been seeping back into game plans thankfully it's nothing special it's a turns into a four strong play with a backside slant and and various guys doing

different things you can mix up the backside route. But in the huddle, I said, Marquez, you go to three, and Kabi, you go to two on this play, meaning you line up in the two-spot, Kabi. Because on the previous play that we had looked at, when I looked down the sidelines, Marquez's angle was a little bit flat. And so I was thinking, if I got speed at three, that's going to attract multiple guys. And if I got Kabi in there, I got a good feeling that he's going to keep that high angle on the corner. And we might start off with an explosive play in the two-minute.

Well, it turned out I came off and looked left and they doubled Tay. And I had, you know, Mr. 23 miles an hour running down the middle line of safety and put the ball in a good spot. And obviously he scored it. You see, you are like Rain Man. I apologize, AJ. That was unbelievable. feel like uh football just came through a fire hose but everybody on the internet is going to check what you just did and put a video to it and it is going to be so fucking cool and i appreciate you doing that go ahead aj i mean

yeah your recall is is unbelievable but we all know like recall doesn't mean anything if if you have three or four toes falling off you have any update on how you're doing, what you did at halftime to try to help the pain level? These guys all assume you just go in there and get shot up with everything. I tell them Green Bay is very conservative with a lot of that stuff. But how are you feeling now on Tuesday after the Sunday game? I feel similar to how I felt last Tuesday. You know, this is something that's not going to go away.

I don't think it's going to be something I'll deal with. I'm not sure what the bye week's going to look like. There's a lot of options on the table. One option that's not on the table is sitting out. So I'm going to push through this and keep playing. What are the other options? Yeah, what were the options? Surgery?

Out for the year? Amputate it? Amputate? Do you runny lot Surgery? Out for the year? Amputate it? Amputate? Do you runny lot that thing? Okay. Just snip it off? That's always an option. Just the pinky toe, right? Yeah, just the big toe, right?

Yeah, just the first two and half of the fifth, right? No, I mean, there's definitely all options on the table. Surgery, rest, sit out um i'm not gonna sit out though i'm gonna keep playing okay hold on hold on hold on doesn't it behoove everybody to know what the hell happened because they're the tom pelissero the arrow who gets memos from teams the nfl into his brain and has the ability to and then just send them out literally so everybody can see them. That is what he's incredible at.

He said this is worse than a turf toe, but you're still playing turf toe. It takes people out, out. Like that actually does. Shouldn't we talk more about you battling through something that is really incredibly painful right now? Or do you think people just don't say that

because you're a hippie? And what is it? What did happen? Are you okay? Well, you know, with all due respect to tom palazzaro now i can say whatever i want i believe that i mentioned uh that it was more painful than turf toe and i had turf two years ago and that the problem with turf toe is that you know it's that joint in your big toe and and it is very painful so naturally i'm leading people to understand that if it's worse than turf toe, there must be some sort of bone issue.

Oh, okay. That's why I'm covering stuff. Yeah. Again, it's better the fifth toe than the first toe, or even the second or the third or probably the fourth toe. Where do we start so yeah what are we european counting like thumbs one or are we you know yeah i'm going you know one from the big toe just like you know it's one two three so you're european okay this is european

now okay well it literally was a war a whole shootout happened in the basement of a bar because one, two, three, four. German, right? Yeah, the German is the thumb here. I mean, there was an entire situation there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, tree. You know that's three if you're a Sacramento Kings fan going back to Big Vladi Dadi when he made a three-pointer and he's throwing up. I remember the first time he did it, I was like, it's too legit.

What is he doing? Too legit, too quick. Hi, hi. And then Jeff Hardy took that right in the dance. And then Urban was like, give me that. So let's talk, though, about – so this is pinky toe? This is what we're having? Pinky toe?

Ring toe? And it's obviously some – did you stub your toe? You were walking around with COVID. Bang! Is that what happened out there? Look, Pat, I've already talked enough on this show about my medical status. I'm going to... I've given you enough information at this point.

I have a injury that's not going away. And I'm going to be dealing with it for at least the next few weeks. This is pinky toe. Okay, good. I feel like we did our job. Good for us. Way to go, AJ. We did it. I think just cut that bad boy off. You'll be alright. That's what Ohio would do, obviously.

I don't think you ever get talked about for your toughness. I can get you a toe by three o'clock. Alright, let's move on. How is the team? How does it feel? You got a bye week coming at like a perfect time, especially with your tow, but

Bakhtiari allegedly had a scope within the last couple weeks. There's rumors now he's back for the stretch run. What does that mean? It feels like bye week maybe could be this week. It could be better better but maybe at the perfect time as well for you guys yeah we got to get healthy we got a lot of uh you know a lot of injuries obviously losing elton uh doesn't make us a better football team you know he's been so talented he started center for us left guard left tackle he played right tackle last year in the opener.

I mean, he's such a talented player. Kind of, you know, similar to Dave, very freak injury. You know, he kind of was setting out to block Harrison on a free safety pressure off the edge and looked like he was just bracing on his left leg and his knee just kind of gave out. So, disappointed for him. He's such a

great kid uh such a talented player and means so much to us from an energy standpoint and and just his play style i mean he's a fantastic player to be able to be so good all rookie team at guard and then to be just so reliable and left tackle i mean that's just really rare in this league to be able to do that and obviously a lot of injuries that we haven't thought about, maybe Packer fans I'm sure are in the back of our mind, but we still have two of our top defensive players who haven't played a whole lot this year in Jair and Zedaris. So I've definitely seen Jair.

I feel like I'm not overstepping, stating that he hasn't had any setbacks, I don't think, by any of the medical stuff, information he's received. I don't know if that means he comes back and plays this year. But I know Z, you know, we're all hopeful that Z's able to come back and play at some point this year. But we've got a lot of injuries. You know, we've had, you know, a number of ACLs that have hurt us, and obviously we've been wanting Dave to come back

for a while, and he's just not quite ready. So it's been a grind, but we got a home game against a good opponent this week, and we're going to have to find a way and get to the bye at 9-3. Have you ever had a situation before in a game, like you had this past game,

when you were trying to call the timeout, the ball is snapped, and then all of a sudden you throw a touchdown pass? And also, as that ball is coming to you when you're trying to call a timeout, what was going through your head? Oh, shit. You know, it was third and six, I believe, in that situation. Very important time in the game, 23-17. You know, we started the drive, backed up,

and it's been a really nice drive for us and knew how important that play was. So I gave a long, silent cadence in the huddle. As we broke the huddle, Lucas goes 15, meaning 15 on the play clock. And I said, yeah, we're fine, we're fine. Because of my mind, I was going to see if they might jump on the first two or at least, you know they were bar and kendrick's are in the a

gaps and it looked like they might plan zero behind it um which is a again with zimmer they will bring both backers but the side of the turn that backer gets freed up and he gets a drop-off. Turn, turn, turn. What's that mean? The center. So we were in a left-dominant formation. We had a protection where the center was going to turn to the right. So both backers initially come, but the backer to the side of the turn of the center, he gets a drop-off in coverage. You're kind of buying an extra guy.

Those guys get picks a lot, right? Because you don't see them at first. Exactly. And so what happens, Pat, is you have to squeeze to the side away from the turn. So if you bring both guys, and in that situation, our left guard ended up blocking the backer in the left A gap and the tackle squeezed down on three technique. So the free guy was going to be Everson off the edge so i was thinking about calling time out now because of the timing of my leg kick and then the snap uh sean hawkley the referee rightly

allowed the play to go um i'm happy about it now because the the way it turned out. But I will hearken back to this, and I said it yesterday when we were watching the film. I wonder this. In 2016, we were playing the Vikings at home later in the year, and they ran almost the exact same pressure, right? And Everson was free off the edge, right? and Everson was free off the edge, right? And I knew he was free and knew I didn't have a great place to go with the ball, so I spun out of it to the left and ran it in with a real average juke on the goal line.

I think I juked Xavier Rhodes. Jordy Nelson claims that he kind of gave him a push to put him off balance. All that to say, I scored a touchdown on that. The exact same pressure, basically. I don't remember if they were in the B gaps or the A gaps. But actually, they could have been the B gaps on Tuesday. Either way, we were squeezing. Everson was free.

I spun out. So I wonder, and you'd have to ask him, was there anything in the back of his mind remembering that play in the moment from five years ago that, oh, my God, like, I'm free, but I got to kind of, like, make sure this older, marginally athletic guy doesn't come out on me. Crafty. Yeah. Hey, I'm happy. Hey, I'm happy we're at this point, by the way,

because just a few weeks ago, remember, he was saying, oh, am I tripping over my own feet? Now there's a chance that Everson Griffin has nightmares of five years ago. I don't think Everson has nightmares. No, okay. You may be a little hesitant, but there's a lot of – He definitely – he rocked me a couple times in the game. I enjoy him a lot.

He's a nice guy. He's pretty funny on the field. He said some hilarious things over the years, and I enjoy competing against him. But in that moment when I caught it, oh, shit, we're squeezing. I look left at Marquez. He kind of cut his route off a little short. He had a through route. So it was kind of off him and looked quick to the left flat.

Cobby was running just a little smoke route. And Pat P was out there, and he was all over it. And I just happened to look inside in the slot at Tay, and Tay had made an unbelievable double move, not in the initial play at all. And I was able to just kind of load on my left, on my right, knowing I'm about to on my right knowing i'm about to take a shot and get the ball up enough and then i saw a flag down and i was like here we

go yeah do we hold or something and they called you know a marginal roughing the passer you know uh call and uh the rest is kind of history on that one. Yeah, it was an amazing play, amazing touchdown. The internet said that obviously Aaron Rodgers is getting preferential treatment here. Clearly called for a timeout instead through a massive touchdown. But if you're getting preferential treatment, I don't think you would have signed yourself up to get killed by Everson Griffin.

But nonetheless, incredible game. A lot of great plays were made. You end up on the wrong side. On the field, you thought Savage caught that? I was dancing around Barclays Center. I was dancing. I was having the time. They went to a commercial.

I don't know if you've seen the TV copy. They went to the commercial break. Gumby was sprinting around Indianapolis. I was dancing in the Barclays Center, yelling while they're shooting things on the other side. And then we came back. Kirk Cousins has the ball still. They show the replay. Once again again i'm watching in spanish and i i didn't i don't know

enough of spanish i've learned they show the replay it's like oh that was clearly a drop how were we even sold it on the field did you guys know that was a drop when i saw it live uh to me when you saw the ball come out that goes back to the you know uh the issue of leaving your feet going to the ground uh you got to secure the catch all the way to the ground but as we've seen in various times you know once you're on the ground if the if the player you know knocks the ball out of your hands they've been rightly calling that a catch so i went to got my helmet but i i was really thinking i don't think this one's going to stand uh went out there and immediately you know close there after they showed the replay up

on the jumbotron and i was talking with uh with anthony bar out there um and he was like what do you think and i was like it's not a catch yeah that's a bummer yeah Hey, you and AB get along, by the way? You and AB get along? I saw you guys interact with each other a couple times through the game. Look, we had, you know, in 2017, we had a misunderstanding for sure. I felt like he might have given me the middle finger. Oh, fuck you. As I was walking off with a broken collarbone, In 18, we talked about it and kind of patched things up or whatever.

Let bygones be bygones. He's a Pac-12 guy. And we've played it. You know, we've kind of passed that threshold. We've played against each other so many times that there's like an ingrained respect that goes in. And same with Eric Hendricks and Harrison Smith. You know, playing against those guys and Everson, you know,

those four guys have been around there for so long. There's just a respect level, knowing what it takes to, like, keep being your best year after year, and there's a respect level that goes along with it. So we're actually talking about our colleges. The Golden Bears romped in the big game 41-11 over Stanford. And UCLA beat their crosstown rivals. I believe it turned off like 62-33 or something.

Hey, he jumped over a guy. That dude. That was amazing. That was awesome. How good is Harrison Smith? I feel like that dude should get talked about all the time. If you watch that dude disguise his coverages and blitzes and everything he does and then the plays he makes like watching his film is a thing of beauty like showing him disguise how tough is

it facing a dude like him I mean I think I think the way that he disguises should probably be standard secondary teaching tape he's I think the best in the game at that. And then you add to it he's a really good blitzer. You know, he's got a number of sacks over the years. And then you add to that he's a great tackler. And then you add to that he's got great ball skills. So, you know, he's definitely the total package. Played against him for a long time.

I have a ton of respect for him. He is the most difficult person, person i think in the league to determine uh whether or not he's blitzing what he's doing on certain plays um you know they do such a great job disguising it takes the two inside backers and the safeties in the corners to create a great disguise they do a great job of that with bar and kendrickson and sm Smith all kind of aligned. A few times, you know, you guess right because it is a guessing game in tie-ups. Especially if you have, you know, audibles in the game or check with me that are based on shell. Is it two high or one high? You know, a lot of times taking your best guess based on all the information.

But a lot of times over the years, you guess wrong. all the information but a lot of times over the years you guess wrong uh i happen to guess right a few times in the game on on sunday and and especially in the second half and that's i think we kind of got us to a rhythm on some of those check with me's uh but can you explain that what check with me is yeah so we have a run or a pass called in the huddle and the run can be based on a specific technique you want to run the ball to or and that could be a defensive line technique could be where linebackers located or it could be a safety location as well or it could be one high or two high so one high safety or two high safety and then you could have an associated run to the opposite side with that initial run or you could have a pass play or a keeper any of those things so a lot of that is you know certain situations

certain teams you feel like with the front information and maybe the way the corners are playing or the safeties or linebacker location, it might be a little bit easier. Some teams like to line up in their final defensive structure maybe a little earlier based on cadence or based on any other factor. But Minnesota likes to hold as long as possible. There's certain tells with certain teams. Like if it looks too good to be true, a lot of times it is. Like maybe the world linebacker is sitting in the A gap and there's no B gap or C gap support player.

You're thinking, all right, there must be weak rotation on this play. So you can kind of guess. But what Minnesota does is they stick the mic in the A gap and the wheel in the weak side B gap. And last second, they both jump over two gaps and the safety comes down right at the snap. So a lot of times you are just guessing on what it is. And thankfully, definitely in the second half, I guessed right more than I guessed wrong.

A couple quick follow-ups as a sports dude who doesn't know football anywhere near as much as you do, obviously. This used to happen. I think Bill Belichick started doing this to Peyton, where they wouldn't move until like 10 seconds left in the play clock or five seconds left in the play clock because they thought at that point Peyton wasn't able to check the play. And with that being said, does that mean there's four plays being called

or could be called in the check with me? What does scary ninja mean? I'm not talking about scary ninja, but ninjas. Hey, that's recall from last year, by the way. Huh, little huh? Ninjas can be scary, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

I mean, Jackie Chan, Keanu Reeves. Oh, yeah. Any of the kids in Three Ninjas. Mori Tanaka, yeah. Steven Toto. Ninja Turtles. Seagal. Seagal.

Steven Seagal, hard to kill. That guy survives everything. That motherfucker's been through it. Oh, yeah. I don't even remember what the question was. Is there four plays there? And do you have a time in your head where you can't go? This might be too much information,

but I think it's been figured out at this point. Is that why you're always so close to zero? Because you're trying to hold on as late as possible because defensive coordinators are kind of fucking with you in that? I mean, I think this game we did a better job. I mean, the only time we were up against it, it seemed like, was when I was, you know, thinking about calling timeout and Lucas snapped it.

We actually did a lot more short cadences this week just to try and get them to respect the fact that we wanted to, you know, try and combat some of the disguise. So that's what you got to do. You got to mix it up. You know, some weeks you run four or five, six, 10 players on first sound, you know, against teams that you want to get up and just get things going. Some, some teams you like a long cadence to really, you know, get to the perfect the perfect play based on the final coverage. That's a long one right there. Did you hear what I just did right there?

That was a long one. I mean, that's a lot of the play clock being eaten up by this incredible cadence. Go ahead, Todd. Aaron, I can only imagine how loud it was in the stadium on Sunday. They mentioned on the TV copy several times how you couldn't really hear anything in there. At this point in your career, does that really affect the offense that much because it seemed like when like you were feeding off it when they were getting their loudest and you you know you dice them up get a big first down or that touchdown to mps like at this point does that even really affect you guys that much i'd say we're pretty good at all of our silent silent adjustments uh route adjustments, cadence. We've done really good over the years. I think I said it on the show a few weeks ago,

big shout-out to TJ Lang and Josh Sitton and Brian Balaga for their help early on with some of the silent count stuff that I think really changed the dynamic on offense, being able to get off on the snap count. Those guys did a great job of, you know, inspiring and using their creativity to try and figure out how to best utilize that silent count. But, look, I've played in some really loud environments over the years.

The loudest outdoor is obviously Seattle. I mean, that place is really nutty to play in, and you can't hear anything. I mean, you're screaming in the huddle. I've had to signal in the huddle at times because it's so ridiculous. The old Metrodome, as far as inside stadiums, screaming in the huddle. I've had to signal in the huddle at times because it's so ridiculous. The old Metrodome, as far as inside stadiums, the old Metrodome, I think it's got to be the loudest. I mean, that place was absolutely rocking in Minnesota. It was just smaller. You know, the new stadium is a beautiful stadium in Minnesota. It's not as loud as the old Metrodome.

It's very loud still, but nothing I don't think. I mean, Atlanta in the playoffs in 11 was crazy, crazy loud, and in 16. But the old Metrodome, you know, because they were pumping in that sound, it's probably the loudest indoor state. Whoa, whoa, whoa. The RCA Dome, did you ever play here before Lucas Oil was open? They said that place was loud. They got accused of piping in noise as well because of how loud it was.

Not proven. Not proven. Hey, you watch this? Not proven. Not proven. It's all hearsay. It's all a bunch of bullshit. You watch Man in the Arena, that first episode about Tom?

And is that something you would get into? I didn't see it. I like binging shows. So if there's a point where you can binge it, then I might check it out. But I think they're doing one a week. What are they doing? Yeah, this is the new thing. Apple started it with The Morning Show and Ted Lasso, where they only release one a week.

Fucking get on with it. Give us at least three. We need at least three. I think that would be the proper amount if you still want to get a couple week buzz. Don't you agree? I agree. A couple week buzz? Is that what you refer to?

Yeah, because it comes in, everybody watches it. It's one weekend where, like Tiger King, for instance, comes in one weekend, then it's dead. You know, I think they wanted to combat that with all their work

so they could extend the time. I don't know. I just hate it hate it i hate it i'm like you if i'm if i'm deciding to pay attention to this you better give me all of it because like this ain't going to happen again you know no that's it and i love ted lasso thanks for the rex on that but even with ted lasso i would lag behind and hopefully not get any spoilers so I could watch two or three in a row just because you know I don't have an extended amount of time to to really watch tv in general but if I'm gonna sit on the couch and do rehab or just zone out for a little bit I need I need a couple episodes at least in a row I agree I don't think you're being too

high maintenance I agree and maybe we're both you're being too high maintenance. I agree. And maybe we're both wrong because it feels like every show is now becoming one a week. It's like, no, no, we had this before. We don't like this. We changed. We completely changed the game. We don't do this anymore. Last question here for me before we get into, you know, the most amazing book club announcement of all time. Is there anything that you'll carry with you through your quarantine where you had to be by yourself for 10 days aside from breaking toes on things is there anything that you'll carry into everyday life going forward is there anything you got out of quarantine that you know maybe a positive out of this whole thing or oh man Oh, man. I don't know. I mean, it was quiet.

I definitely missed seeing the guys. You know, when I spent time this offseason, you know, working on myself and away from the team and enjoying my time off, it kind of started to feel like what retirement might be a little bit. And both of you guys played for a long time. And I'm sure there was periods where you were like, I missed the game, but I enjoy what I'm doing now. But also just missing the camaraderie and the competition and the locker room and different things. And so I got to feel that. I think there's, regardless of who we are, there's at least a minimal level of fear about what that next chapter looks like.

And I feel like this offseason I faced that down and said, oh, it feels pretty good. You know, I kind of like what this feels like. I'm not worried about life after football. But I'm still training and dedicated to coming back if things kind of look the right way. And I'm so glad I did. I've had a blast with these guys. Being away from the squad again was the first time since I had a real bad concussion a few years ago, minus the surgery in 17.

And I really miss the guys. I really miss the locker room and the BS and the jokes and the meetings and just all the little things that make the week passable, you know, as you're getting ready for the most important and the most fun part, which is the game. You know, there's so many great things, the presentations, the side conversations, the, you know, jokes in the locker room, the, you know, characters I have to my left, the D line and Preston and characters across the, you know, across the locker room, the offense

alignment and just the interactions. And so I really, I miss those a lot. And, you know, just continuing to cherish those and have a lot of gratitude to still be doing this, to get to play, to not have to test for the next 74 days. All those beautiful things that come out of being by myself for 10 days. Well, we're happy to have you back. And it doesn't sound like you're counting down the days to your next test at all or anything like that.

So do you have it like on a calendar? All right, we've got 74 more days. All right, 16 days free here. All right, let's keep this thing. I don't. But, you know, again, I'm thankful that I felt good in just a few days and didn't have any lingering effects other than COVID toe. We did it.

We got the fucking answer. There it is. We did it. You know, there was a New York Post headline yesterday speculating that because A.J. Hawk said you and Joe Rogan were smoking DMT, and on one of your trips, boom, something happened to the toe. New York Post said maybe A.J. Hawk knows something we don't know. There was a lot of other accusations.

They gave A.J. some pub, huh? Oh, and then his face, the picture they chose was him mid-blink, and he looked it was it was very rude i mean it was unbelievable but kovato was something people were saying i'm happy we got to the bottom of this look at us journalists we're journalists we're journalists age did laura cut that out i want to i hope that's framed maybe she has no idea that happened i'll say i'll have zero idea about it. I'll have Sam.

I bet better knows all about it. Pat was worried. No, Pat was worried about that. I wouldn't like the picture of me, which I'm on here for multiple hours, five days a week. You can pretty much get whatever you need.

If you need a bad picture of me and his screenshot something, but I was more surprised that you didn't deny it. You didn't deny it. So I was like, all right, it might be true. was more surprised that you didn't deny it you didn't deny it so i was like all right it might be true well they that was fucked up what they did to you you guys were swinging kettlebells smoking dmt virtually obviously probably carrying your laptop boom toe just hit boom one of these

walls in my 72 000 square foot house by the way that's awesome that you and joe rogan were hanging out during your quarantine doing the kettlebell swings with those gorilla ones? Yeah. I have some. Those are awesome. We were hitting the heavy bag together, doing some kicks. It was a lot of fun. Oh, it's too heavy of a bag. And you didn't know you're supposed to hit with your shin. It's not your foot. You turned your foot.

Was it your left or your right foot? You turned your right foot. Boom, hit that pinky on it. That bag felt it, but so did you, obviously. You put your left foot in, and you put your left foot out. Yeah. And you put your left foot in, and you shake it all about. Oh, it was the hokey pokey that got you, wasn't it?

That's fucking unbelievable. Can't wait to see how the world. DFT hokey pokey. Could you imagine him and Joe Rogan? It's so much fun. You put your foot in too far. I'm fucking done. Alright, let's get to a much more educational part

of the program. Hey, 18 seconds left in the first half. 13 seconds, whatever it was. You were heading in to get treatment. Is that what happened there? If I didn't ask you about this, I would be considered an asshole. You were in the tunnel. It looked hilarious. There's no way you could have thought the ball was coming back to you guys. Trainers, you decide to go in.

What happened? Well, if you remember what happened, I told them I wanted to go in. So Nate and I started walking in. Got a nice chorus of boos on the way out. Thank you. walking in got a nice chorus of booze on the way out thank you but uh thank you the first play was there was a a replay right they had to look at it a review because uh the receiver caught it they said and then it looked and obviously it was obvious that it was dropped so i just wanted to wait till second down if we did pick it off or if there was a turnover

because it looked like they were going to try and go score. They were on 25 with whatever time was left. So I wanted to just give it to second down to see if we made a play. I figured if they didn't complete it on second down or if it was a minimal gain, they would run around third down and punt. And unless we blocked it, Jay could take the snap and kneel down more than capable. That's a funny story as well I won't get into about the minor freakout that happened, whether or not Jordan needed any snaps with Lucas Patrick or not.

I love J-Lo because he was like, I'm fine, I'm good. Also, the kid was confident. People were trying to tell him maybe he needed to take some, and he's like, will we please relax? Yeah, yeah, come on, we're good. Hey, J him maybe he needed to take some, and he's like, will we please relax? Yeah, yeah. Come on. We're good. Hey, J-Lo's going to be a guy, man.

Here we go. Hey, maybe. I'd like to hear that. That's a big deal. Yeah, proud of him. So what'd you do? You went and got a shot in the foot? I went and got a little treatment.

On your COVID toe. What'd they do? Did they give it a mask? Did they give it a vaccination? What did they do to the COVID toe? Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for the smartest, most academia thing we are a part of and I have ever been a part of in my entire life. It is time

for week 12 of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club. Obviously, this thing has been captivating the universe of readers since the very beginning of the season. There's been new readers. There's been old readers tapping back into the eyeballs to read once again. Last week, he gave us Fingerprints of the Gods, a 7,000-page book that there was no way anybody was able to complete in one week,

but they'll keep it on the list for the off-season this week's book is... I'm going to do a little lead-in because I know I've been picking a lot of more serious books, I would say. This book was sent to me this week by a dear friend uh both aj and i's and i wanted to highlight it i haven't read the whole thing yet oh no oh no first one i haven't read all the way through but age and i know this guy we have for a long time and i want to highlight his new book that he co-wrote it's by b Brian Bumgarner and Ben Silverman. It's called Welcome to Dunder Mifflin. Let's go.

Here we go. And for those of you like myself and AJ, and I don't know about the boys, but who are huge fans of The Office, and some of us who actually got to be in an episode, The Office helped me get through COVID. I mean, I watched it two more times from the beginning to end during 2020. And you can binge shows.

And that one is amazing. I first started watching the British version of The Office starring Ricky Gervais years and years ago on a recommendation from my friend Joey. Genius. I loved it. And then, you know, obviously fell in love with Steve Carell and the American version of The Office. Brian did two – Brian Bumgarner, who played Kevin Malone, by the way, doesn't talk like that in person.

I want to – obviously, if you've seen him on various shows, he's also a pack man. But he did a couple of podcasts. I want to get the names right here for brian uh an oral history of the office and a newer podcast which is called the office deep dive with brian bumgarner i want to show this photo of him he's also really big on uh on can you see that yeah yeah move it yep right there there he is he's also really big on cameo you wanted me to mention that as well uh but this book is written similarly to the way that the podcast uh was recorded with a lot of interviews with people and back and forth and look the office one of the most watched shows of all time at one point i believe uh it was watched four times it was the

most watched show on Netflix with like 8% of the viewing audience and the next highest was at 2%. So Netflix definitely fleeced NBC for the office when they licensed it because so many people

were watching so many minutes of that show. But definitely fun to highlight brian i've met him in 2008 he's uh from georgia but a big packer fan now and uh excited about his book that just came out and thanks for sending out so next week i don't know if i'm gonna do a more serious one again or something a little more subtle israeli study next week right dude are you kidding me with this i'm really pumped about this what's the name of this one this one is called welcome to dunder mifflin the ultimate oral history of

the office well i can't wait to dive into the podcast to tell me what's happening in that book i think a lot of people are going to enjoy the hell out of that i too big ricky gervais fan i've seen the office the The Office here is big fans of The Office. We appreciate you for joining us, man. Thank you for another incredible Tuesday. Yeah, I feel like we got a couple good nuggets there.

Oh, here we go. Put that capo on. No, I was going to let you lead the way and then we were going to sing our song that we practiced. What are you guys singing? It's our song, go. All right. Put that capo on. You got a little something? No, I was going to let you lead the way, and then we were going to sing our song that we practiced. What are you going to sing? It's our song, Aaron. Go ahead. Our song? Yeah, yeah.

Go ahead. Okay. Well, I was just about to get into it. It's Tuesday when they say that Aaron Rodgers is rather great. The son of a bitch

lad! That's right, right now, live in Los Angeles, the Chargers superstar quarterback. A man that's 6'9", 300 pounds, throws the ball all over the yard out of a tiny town in Oregon. Ladies and gentlemen, Justin Herbert. Yeah! I appreciate the intro, but I think that might have been too much for me, though.

No, no, no. You deserve more. You deserve more. Actually, take him off the screen. Take him off the screen, please. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, a quarterback that is changing the game with a rookie head coach, had a little bit of an ebb and a flow, and back on top after a Sunday night football victory that showcased not only that

this man can throw, can run, but his hair is back to being glorious as well. Ladies and gentlemen, Justin Herman! It's an honor to be here. Anything about the intro? It was awesome. I loved it. The honor's all ours. How you doing intro? It was awesome. I loved it. The honor's all ours. How you doing, man?

Big win. You looked fantastic. There was a little bit of a time where I think the national narrative, I don't know about Chargers media, the national narrative was how does the rookie head coach, how does the young quarterback, how do they get out of this entire thing? It feels like Sunday you guys found your rhythm again. What was it and what do you think's happening with your team? Yeah, that one got awfully close. I thought it was good for us to kind of bounce back and deal with some adversity because you know we had uh quite the lead and um kind of

found a way to to give it up but uh we we battled back and the defense came up with some big stops so i just got to keep building off of that i feel like last year we saw you answer a lot and i think that is why so many people got so excited, not just about the Chargers team in the future, but about Justin Herbert. And I know you don't like speaking about yourself, and that's honorable and admirable, especially in the world that we're in. He's in L.A. too.

You're in that. I mean, you are an anomaly, sir. But I feel like you do have that thing in you where you answer. There's never a moment that's too big. It feels like you relish those moments when you have to make a big play, whether it's to throw to Mike or a run or another ball down the seam. Have you always been that way? Do you think it's just kind of your football mannerism?

Is there, have you ever, is it other sports that kind of created that? Why do you think you are that way? Well, I appreciate that. I think it kind of starts with all our preparation. Spending the time with our quarterbacks coach Shane Day, Joe Lombardi, and all the quarterbacks in our room, we've worked on our drops, our footwork, everything for so long. So that when you get put in that situation, you better have an answer for it.

We've made our fair share of mistakes and interceptions, incompletions, and you have to learn from those. Football is an awfully tough game. As long as you keep making mistakes and learning from them, I think you'll like where you end up. Austin Eckler had like four touchdowns or something like that. And when he joined – hey, is he – when you and him are – he is – No, he's tall.

He's a pretty tall guy. Wow. It doesn't matter. I don't know if it matters. He has like 0% body fat. He's incredibly explosive. We love chatting with him because he's entertaining and everything like that. But when we talked to him, he talked about Brandon Staley in the team explaining why,

the whys of why everything. Like, hey, this is what we're doing on offense to the entire team. This is what we're doing on defense to the entire team. This is what we're doing on special teams. Is that something you've enjoyed as well that kind of coach daly has brought in and what other things do you think have really made you guys a better squad this year it's one of my favorite meetings of the week on thursday we talk about the game plan to success and we talk about special teams offense defense and we go over that and you kind of learn more about what the defense

is doing and special teams is doing and uh it's I think it's really cool to go out there on Sunday and especially see that happen in the game plan. And they talk about plays. They talk about, you know, how they're going to rush the pass or all this stuff that they talk about. And you get to see it happen live. And I think that's the part that's really cool for us. What do you do off the field right now?

Anything? Are you just studying film all the time? Are the bright lights of L.A. getting in the way at all? Or what's going on? No, I've kind of stayed out of that. Just focusing on film, lifting, rehab, working out, doing all those things to get right so you have any chance to play

on Sunday. You're an absolute animal. We found that out on his first drive. We don't have to take the visit back, but obviously, golf tee, tie rods long, Herbert's in, first drive, run somebody over, whole team loves, loves here we go we are in the herbert era now uh what do you wait what height weight and what workouts do you just do sustainable

workouts are you trying to get stronger as you go uh i'm about 240 right now come on just trying to maintain weight uh you know football football, it's a long season. 18 weeks is long. And, you know, if I can maintain that weight for 18 weeks, you know, I feel like I'm setting myself up for a shot. Do you do any training, like Rocky-type training, you know? Not quite, but I've looked into it, so I might have to start working on that. Well, because I thought, like, if you train just getting punched in the stomach,

like if it was to happen in a game, it's not that big of a deal. You know what I mean? Because Cam Haywardward future hall of famer big guy he broke oh yeah hey did you even feel that did you eat that what was that and did you talk to him since the game have you chatted with him no i think it was a mistake you know i think i think he slipped i don't think anything was intentional and you know football is an awfully emotional game and um you know sometimes you get caught up in the pile and i've got no hard feelings to him, and he's an incredible player. I've got so much respect for his game. So whatever happens, happens, and it's on to the next play.

And I assume he feels the exact same way about you. Are you chatty on the field? You're not really known as a chatty person, but I assume there's some defenders now at this point with 240 pounds. Jeez. So big. There has to be some people trying to get at least a little bit of a mental edge. Like, hey, Herbert, have a good time today.

Is there any interaction between you and defenders or is it mostly quiet? Well, it's actually kind of been funny so far. Everyone's been really nice. You know, it's one of those things. I've actually really enjoyed talking to people on defense. And, you know, the longer you're in the league, the more you get to know people and you get to talk with them. And, you know, they bounce from team to team. So just being able to talk with them and say, you know, the longer you're in the league, the more you get to know people and you get to talk with them. And, you know, they bounce from team to team.

So just being able to talk with them and say, you know what, hey, how's it going? Good game and stuff like that's been really interesting. Did it feel like anybody like hated you, despised you? Did it feel like have you been out there in the middle of it yet? I know this is still young in your NFL career, but has there been any moments where you're like, well, it feels like that person has hate in his heart towards me. Has there been any of that? Not yet, but people have probably done a pretty good job of hiding it. So I think that's something I have to pay more attention to.

When you go in to play a Denver team in a division that you know, is there any – I mean, you're still so young. I mean, you're still so young, but you carry yourself like a vet and you've played your entire rookie year. We got a chance to watch just so many close games. When you're playing a divisional opponent, is there anything that helps or is it you guys are in a new offensive scheme now new defensive scheme you kind of just got to look at it like each individual individual game is coming um i think looking back and watching the games from last year i think that can be super helpful

um but ultimately what it comes down to is you're gonna have to have a good week of preparation you're gonna need to watch as much film as you can and um you know this denver team they've got a really good defense and they're playing some pretty good football and it's up to us to have a good week of preparation. You're going to need to watch as much film as you can. And, you know, this Denver team, they've got a really good defense and they're playing some pretty good football. And it's up to us to have a good week of preparation so that we have any chance on Sunday to win. Have you changed your routine at all? Are you building your routine currently? Like you had your first offseason. Did it go exactly how you thought? Have you looked back on anything, how you would change and do your week to week change as you're trying to find your forever routine here as an NFL quarterback? Yeah, I think one of our best additions would be Chase Daniel.

He's one of those guys, a veteran quarterback that has been around the league so long, has had so much success. He's kind of led us through our film routine, and it starts today on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and going through it and having a plan of watching certain aspects of the game. And I think he's been super helpful. Today's Tuesday, Herbert. Yeah, I know.

I just meant at the start of the week. I was a little bit worried. Are you guys playing Monday night? Are you playing Monday night or Sunday? Sunday, I believe. Oh, wow. I know Thanksgiving. Yeah, Thanksgiving's Thursday, by the way. I believe wow thanksgiving thursday by the way

happy thanksgiving to you and your family Herbert hope you enjoy that are you going to kick any field goals this year because I saw you obviously training camp fucking smoke that was a good ball no I'm not allowed to do that anymore just got to stick to throwing the ball

no more hammy blow just take it easy over there uh that is amazing go ahead ty justin on twitter and stuff like that people always talk about like the battle for la or whatever and you know how like sometimes the chargers games it seems like it's 50 50 and then you got the rams who are bringing in all these guys do you guys at this point feel like, does SoFi actually feel like your home stadium? Like, do you feel like you have home field advantage there? I love playing at SoFi. You know, the Chargers fans, they always show up

and they've done an incredible job of showing their support and their support means the world to us. And, you know, it's always tough because opposing teams, they do travel well. It's the NFL. It's always going to be tough. But SoFi is definitely our home. That place looks like a space station, huh?

Is that what it's like behind the scenes, like the locker room? Is it so much nicer than all the other stadiums you go to, I assume? It's really impressive. We were so lucky to be able to play there. The facilities are second to none, and it's an awesome field. Hey, when you – and they say this about NFL quarterbacking, but you did it last year and you're continuing to do it. When you throw to a spot, is that just a feel thing?

And does it change, obviously? Like, Keenan's a stud. Mike's a stud. You have a lot of weapons. But when you're thrown to a spot where it's only your guy, there's no thinking. That's just, like, kind of naturally happening to you. And have you always been that type of quarterback, like, even in college? I think it has to be that way.

I don't think you can think and throw at the same time. i think the more you think the the worst the throw is probably going to be and i think that's just one of those things that you have to kind of learn through and go through with with experience and i think it's much like kicking too and if you think you're probably um making some trouble for yourself yeah uh paralysis by analysis i was too dumb to ever think which is good news for me so I think you're way too smart. I hope you'll get through that. Have you adjusted anything with your body for the long season, like via college into the NFL, with your technique?

For instance, we talked to Josh Allen. He put lasers on his body or some sort of device like a golf swing, and he found out that although he had a strong arm, his elbow was in front of his hip. That's and he found out that although he had a strong arm his elbow was in front of his hip that's why he wasn't as accurate have you do you work on all those little finer details still are you still evolving or are you pretty set with your motion no i haven't worked on anything like quite like that um i think that's maybe something to address in the next offseason but i think a lot of the footwork stuff a lot of the drop mechanics that we worked on this past offseason i think that's been super helpful this year oh you can feel it exactly just

more comfortable in the drop like you're not hitching as much how can you feel it it's just it just is coming a lot easier and quicker to you is the game slowing down because of it yeah i think it's it kind of starts with setting up the pocket and not getting too deep and being able to step up and uh kind of have a sense for where the pocket's going to be. And if they're free rushers, you know, you have to take quick little steps to kind of avoid those guys. So it's definitely challenging, but I've gotten a lot better at it. Wow, you're crushing it, dude.

Go ahead, Tom. Justin, like in reference to that and pocket awareness and stuff like that, there was many, many times on Sunday where you would step up. It's a diehard Steelers fan you're talking to right here great game sunday uh where you'd step up and there was literally no one in front of you and that happened like 10 times dude like when that happens do you still try to sit there and make a throw or you're like i'll take this 20 yards easily i think that's kind of the challenge that you have to face when you're playing quarterback and um you know it's obviously great to go through your reads and find a guy downfield and make a

completion, but at the same time, if it's third down and you need to be able to go get five or six yards, going and scrambling and finding a lane to run, I think that's huge for our offense. Hey, this guy runs a 4-6. This guy runs a 4-6. That's what the internet was saying. The entire internet was like, Justin Herbert, surprisingly

quick. Pretty crafty athlete. first one in last one out son of a football coach oh you still running four six or is that just combine time you're not working on that anymore um you're always working on your speed uh coach lamondo and jonathan brooks at uh the strength staff here they've done an incredible job so we're always working on it hey you were rolling there now a 300 pounder did catch you yeah and then he punched you but you were you were rolling there i mean, a 300-pounder did catch you. Yeah. And then he punched you. But you were rolling there. I mean, just something to think about.

I guess I'm not working on my speed quite enough then. Hey, listen, don't be kicking balls, and let's not be doing too many explosive things, okay? Let's not blow any hammers. Let's throw the fucking ball. Justin, go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Justin, the hair looks phenomenal. Is there any thought to maybe pivot to a mullet at some point,

or are you just going to let it keep going? And then real quick, talking turkey, are you a mashed potatoes guy or what? For sure a mashed potatoes guy. Come on! No thought on the mullet quite yet. I think that's something that I've got to think more about and maybe transition to in the offseason. Maybe playoff run.

Ooh. What did he say? Playoff mullet. Last time you were on, you said, I'm a Nike guy, and you hadn't signed a Nike deal. And I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. You'll fucking sign with Adidas, right? Let's make sure we have a little leverage. You're like, no, I'm a Nike guy.

You're a Nike guy now completely? Yeah, Nike guy. I've always been loyal to the swoosh, and I kind of grew up with it. So everything worked out well. Hey, congrats. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Really, really happy for with it. So everything worked out well. Hey, congrats. Yeah. Really,

really happy for you, man. Go ahead, Frank. Justin, back to the running that we were talking about with you doing, and especially on Sunday, I noticed you were sliding a lot and a lot of young guys when they come

into the league, either refuse to slide or don't know how, is that just like instinctive? Have you ever worked on that? Did you play baseball? Where'd that come from? Cause it was as a Steeler fan, it was frustrating to watch.

Yeah, it's super important not to take hits in the NFL because all those guys on the side of the ball, they're bigger, faster, and stronger than me. I don't think so! 4'6", 240. I think you start maybe, you know...

Run them over. They're not bigger, stronger, faster than you, but I do like that you are thinking about the team because your availability is better for everybody's life. That's a real thing. Is that something that anybody's had to tell you, or did you know that? Well, we talked about it last year. The Chiefs game, when I took the hit on the sideline,

it took one hit for me to realize never to do that again. And so every opportunity that I get to slide and not avoid a hit, I'm going to slide. Stuffing, that was your number one side, obviously, on Thanksgiving, over mashed potatoes probably? Yeah, I'd put them both at the top. I don't think I could pick one over the other. You a white meat or drumstick guy?

I'm more of a ham guy to be honest yeah she liked the drumstick because the drumstick is the ham of the turkey you know what I mean so I understand that do you have family coming into town is it just another work day

my brother actually my older brother who goes to medical school in Columbia so he's going to hang out with me for a week so it'll be fun with him so you come from big brain So he's going to hang out with me for a week. So it'll be fun with him. So you, you come from big brain family too, like big, big brain family. He's the smart one. You know, I've, I've had to live up to him. What do you do other than football though? Do you, do you, are you a video gamer? No cards player, just kind of live your life. What do you do? Uh, I try to play golf as much as I can outside of football. Um, but, uh, other than that,

during the season, we don't have too much time off. Justin, you're like, and not just saying this because you came on the show and you've come on the show before and given us incredible time, and we're very thankful. Thank you, Justin. No, but you are like the picture-perfect superstar if I wanted a young quarterback to be. You seem to be incredibly humble, smart.

In L.A., it could be a distraction for everybody. Have you guys experienced that at all on your team? Like new players come in. Is that ever addressed or is it just kind of understood? Like we get to live in great weather. Let's not let all the other stuff fuck it up. Or is it you have a good locker room that's just kind of bought in? I think everyone's been really focused on what we need to do here in the building.

And I think that COVID has kind of affected that as well and kind of being safe and realizing that, you know, you can't do exactly what you wanted to do a couple years ago. Everything's changed. And for us to keep playing football and to be able to do what we want to do, we have to be safe, we have to be smart. And so I think that aspect of things, everyone's been really good at. You ever talk to Tom Telesco and does he say, thank God Miami drafted Tua?

Does he say that to you or how does he? You can laugh. You canco, and does he say, thank God Miami drafted Tua? Does he say that to you? You can laugh. You can go ahead and pop it down. How are the conversations with Tom Telesco? Tom is such a smart person. Anytime you get to talk with him, you get to learn so much more about football, about player personnel. We believe in him so much, and he's done an incredible job so far.

Well, you and I have it's certainly one thing i'm 242 it looks a little different but uh tom zalesko brought me into the nfl as well with the colts he was the reason i got drafted to the colts obviously he's incredibly pumped that you were the quarterback for his franchise that he got to bring in uh we can't thank you enough for joining us on this beautiful monday herbert on this beautiful monday and have a great week have a great thanksgiving and good luck this weekend against Denver, brother. Awesome. Thank you, guys. Always a pleasure.

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a black tie affair, a gala to attend, a world to change, a cult to appease. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Haw. AJ, what's going on, dude? What's up, guys?

How you doing? How was Herbert? Hey, Herbert was awesome. Herbert was incredible. He didn't give anything that like, you'd be like, oh, I can't. What? going on dude what's up guys how you doing how was herbert hey herbert was awesome herbert was incredible he didn't give anything that like uh you'd be like oh i can't what what nobody's doing that but he's proving every single conversation that he's like a guy you know he's so cool i would love to be on a team with that guy's quarterback seems super chill you know yeah joe cool and then we called montana especially when he was uh taking care of that person to

duck in his granddaughter. Yeah, he does seem to be like he is always in control. We're going to have to ask FanDuel, but could we get a futures bet on Herbert saving a kidnapping with a football? Yeah. Because if that is what they called Montana, Joe Cool, because he's just always cool, Herbert's got the same exact quality. I would like to put a futures on him snagging a football out of a glass case

with Super Bowl rings on and throwing a strike at a guy's beak who is, what's that? Reenact it. What? Oh, no, no, I don't got it today. Pinky ring on. I just still don't know if Joe Montana actually did that. He did.

Oh, shut up, Falk. He did. Was he wearing his Super Bowl rings? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. He sleeps in them? No, no, no. He was in a photo shoot that day because he was saving the world.

He was watching film at the time and still having them on. Yeah, he had them on there. But anyways, it would be very difficult to play quarterback with a pinky ring, by the way. And I was thinking about slinging this thing. And not that you look like a kidnapper, but to emulate the throw or whatever. Pinky Ring almost came out as soon as I did that. Oh, no.

Yeah, I did that because, hey, I had a 10-win weekend, I think. There we go. Hey, I think I had 10 picks right against the spread. Am I? Am I a shark? I'm a shark. People talk Need to shut it

Getting a lot of tweets about people saying I'm losing the money Because the risk-free same game Barleys didn't hit And the super boost didn't hit a couple times But I'm 10-5, you're 9-6 Let's go This is what's going to happen going forward This is who we are now, AJ

The standard is the standard. Week 11 into a week 18 season. Let's go, dude. Let's go ahead and get this now. Let's win this, AJ. Hey, how do we get any of these right when every single week it seems like there's three or four games where it should be a blowout one way and the team that usually on paper does not look very good blows them out.

No, no. I understand what you're saying about the first 11 weeks of the NFL season, but I am here to declare that now the teams that we know will show up will show up. Yes. And the teams that we know stink will stink. This is great for all of us gamblers and those of us who pick against the spread. Here we are.

Here we are. Here we are. Here we are. So the Bears are legit, right? They have no issues. No, come on. No, the Bears stink. I saw a video of Zito singing. Whoa, that wasn't me, dude. It did sound like Zito to me, too.

I was not told who made it. I was not told who made it. It's been nice. Hope you find your paradise. Can everybody sing it, but Zito? Can we get one more run back here? See, this is what they wanted to do to old buddy's voice in Atlanta. That's right.

They wanted to distort the voice, which is exactly what Zito just did. Who? You know who. You know who. Come on. FBI. In Atlanta? What do you mean? You know who. Richard Jewell? Yeah. They tried to distort his voice. How would anyone know when there was a bomb in San Antonio? Listen, J-Speak guys, I think

at such a high level, you know, and I'm seven. Listen, you can keep up with the conversation, AJ. I mean, the fact that I heard Atlanta and I realized Richard Jewell because you saw one like miniseries. There's a bomb in Centennial Park. So the only thing they had was an audio piece of evidence, right, that linked everything.

And they tried to get Richard Jewell, this incredibly diligent, hardworking security guard. They tried to get him pinned to be the guy because he was telling people they weren't doing their jobs right, so he was not liked by the people that were potentially doing the investigation. They thought, oh, this guy's power hungry. The only thing they had was a piece of audio evidence. It was called a threat, basically.

And they wanted him to record it into something, and then they were going to distort his voice, match it, boom. This idiot befriended him. But instead, Richard Jewell said, I to distort his voice, match it, boom. This idiot buffoon. We got him. Yeah. But instead, Richard Jewell was like, I'm not doing that. No way. No way.

And then he ran a sprint around a park. And boom, it all got figured out. Anyways, that is what we could have potentially had for Zito singing that song. Because I thought it sounded like Zito a lot. But I was told. I was actually sent, hey, we don't know who made this. And then it was sent in. And I was like, that sure sounds like Zito's voice.

And Zito texted it to the group. Zito was like, no, no, not me, though. It was my friend. Leave it, Jerry. But, yeah, Nagy's – it's hot in the kitchen for Chicago. Not just him, Jason Garrett also after last night's game. Did you watch your thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean, I understand that, yeah, there's definitely –

there's been heat on Jason Garrett for a while now. And that Monday night game, like that, like they just haven't shown the progress they want. So I don't know what it means if you fire coaches during the season, whether it's a head coach or a coordinator. I don't like that. But I guess we're getting to that time of the season. Hey, me neither, by the way.

Because I guess you can get a chance to look at other coaches, but it feels like it turns into one massive who can find the best way to take advantage of the situation? Not immediately. I think there is some moments where it's like, hey, we're in this together, but it would be natural for humans, especially in a super competitive world of either coaching or players to maybe look out for themselves in a situation, unless you have a very, very strong person that's coming in to be that interim head coach that's on the staff and everything like that.

Like, for instance, Bruce Arians stepped in, you know, when Chuck had to go. Bruce Arians is respected by everybody. So that was like a quick thing. But it always feels like whenever you fire a coach in the middle of the season, I guess it's a good indication like, hey, we are not going to stand for this. And it's, especially in the world that we're in right now with social media, the owners hear the fans a lot more. And if they give the perception of contentment with where the team is,

I feel like it gets louder and louder. It used to be writers would write bad things, and you would think that people were saying bad shit about your team. But now they actually get to feel it. They get to see it. It's in literally the palm of their hands. So if they give out or present that they're content with what's going on and they don't do action, you potentially lose the fan base.

But the fan base will be back if you fucking win. So it doesn't really matter at all. But I think that is why all these things are happening. And week 11 here i think we are in that point aj yeah if we're this late in the season and you're an owner of a team and you know you're going to hot to fire your head coach when the season is over which i guess there's probably some owners in that spot right now right where they are pretty much like a hundred percent yeah we're probably going to move on then wouldn't it make sense i guess to let him go now get a

jump start on trying to find your new guy? Go ahead, Tom. I was just looking at their coaching staff. The rumor is potentially that if Nagy gets fired, then Mike Pops Adams will become the interim head coach. Hey, Pops is up there. I would love to send him a text and be like, how's it going? First year coaching in the NFL.

He was a player, obviously, for a long time, but he was a coach as a player. I wonder what it's like as a coach coach now that all this shit's happened. I guess Nagy is talking to the media right now. They asked him. What did he say? I have a clip if you want it. They're chanting it at my kid's high school football game. I don't love it.

That would suck. That's life of a head coach in the NFL. It sucks for the kids. It would suck as the dad being like, oh, man, my kid has to deal with this because of what I do. Yeah, here's a 16-second clip that Zito chose to run. You had been informed that this would be your last game as a intercept. Is that accurate?

That is not accurate. You know, I have not, you know, I have great communication with ownership. You're in touch with mine, but I have not had any discussions. Okay, so that's like such a good journalistic way to ask a question we heard who yeah you know who we heard that you might be fired on uh friday basically but we can put this and soup this up in a broadcast manner that you have to give us an actual answer and you can't give us a no comment we have to figure out how to do that about the fucking toe with aaron about an hour so let's brainstorm let's brainstorm i mean we need to because i don't i don't know i don't see us

getting any gain any ground on that yeah i know yeah well that's you you probably asked him if we're going to gain any ground he said no that's why we have to do shit like this no no i don't he he doesn't want to know any like i've never said anything like i'll ask you this he he absolutely does not ever want to be like tipped to what we may ask. By the way, I like that. I appreciate that. I always hate it when people would be like, I'll send you the questions I'm going to ask you. I'm like, don't.

I hate that, too. Why? What do we even? I don't like to see him. Like, if I'm going to, like, I did an Ariel show today. Ariel's great. But he didn't send me a list of questions. Hey, this is the topics we're going to get to.

Like, I don't like to have to think about it before. Yeah, me neither. But you know what Ariel's asking you. He's asking you every question the internet wants to ask you but he has he has the actual he does i mean he is ariel is he is like an actual see there it is ariel is like a journalist like i feel like when he does his interview it's like a journalist type thing or whatever and i enjoy the hell out of him i got to do his show i wonder if he'll just paint you a color whenever he puts it up on we. We talked about it. I bet you did. He may have

blamed your side. That's what Ariel does. That's what journalism has become, so it's a shame that that is what he is. I said this is great. It's like we have two sides, and each side has a completely different story about how this happened. There is only one story. There is no two sides of this thing. We have a video on this side.

I think he may say the same thing, so this is great. Yeah, we actually have it recorded as well. We weren't even asked for our video copy. We could have sent some music. That is professionally made. Yeah, I'm just glad I'm not in the middle of it. As opposed to that throw-together situation. Yeah, don't worry about it.

I'm going to make you 50 to 60 shades darker red. Yeah, not that you're not already red enough and not already you know alarmingly colored in the face let's go ahead and add a full-blown crayola crayon onto you but the conversation was great that's why i was like what the fuck ariel like nobody's gonna hear a word i said in there and i actually because he asked actual questions to me as opposed to like most people ask me questions uh what's wait, hello, Aaron's. What's your favorite straight of dough?

Which, by the way, that's also a good conversation if anybody wants to get into that. There are some that are really. If you were Ben, I'm like, wouldn't you be on the, like you should be on the cover of High Time magazine. Yeah, that would be sweet. I would imagine that would. How come your publicist hasn't taught you that? Yeah, that's the thing. We don't have a publicist.

What? Yeah, no publicist. You don't need one. I mean, here we are. That's how Bruce was. Who? Bruce. Bruce is not a publicist.

No, Bruce is not. Bruce is not. What do you mean? No, no, no. Bruce is not. By the way, you're implying that Bruce is glad-handing with all these insufferable people to make situations happen for other people. Bruce would never do that.

Are you sure? He's from Connecticut. Could you imagine having to deal with... What? Just that whole... That whole world? Like publicist? Oh, yeah, but the amount of favors. Oh, yeah.

You know, like the amount of... How do you take a... How do you ask, yes. Trade and guest and You know, like the amount of – You take a – A lot of ass kisses. Trading guests that you're going to give for each show or something. Yeah, and there's so much money on the line for everybody, so it's all probably a game, I'd assume. And I have the – Hey, I do not have the trait of the ability to be able to handle it,

so congrats to those who came. Good work. Yeah, dude. Well, do you think Kevin Hart reached out to – his people reached out to ESPN as a way to promote his new show? I think whenever you get to a Kevin Hart level, I think that you're getting pitched you know he's kevin that's like i think maybe he has multiple things though like he has a show coming out so they have their like plan on how they're going to promote it that's why he was on the field doing stuff at the philly game that's

why we see him all over yeah i get it i understand that but i think at like kevin's level they can make any ask or whatever hey you want to do something around this and everybody's like yes yes yes yes yes it's all the other stuff like not all the other but there is a large group of people that are in the game over there hiring publicists and agents and managers and everything it's like all these people are just running your life i guess which you're just wasting money have you ever been around guys that played football with you that you found out had a publicist and you thought, what is that? You can't be serious, right? Yeah. Yeah. I was very flustered. I was very, I've been at the Derby a few times and a couple of different people were with like, do you have to, you're

supposed to walk like this red carpet deal. And I would just walk behind it and let the guys go on the red carpet. I just go around. And I was like like I was talking to a player one time he's like I take my own photos yeah I take my own photos what did you say I'm sorry I had to interrupt there oh no you're kidding but I go around I remember one year I was there and my guy I'm sorry man excuse me I was sneaking back around you know and he's waiting to take his turn and step and repeat the whole garbage he's like man I would I'd like to man my publicist is here though my publicist is making me go through all this i was like no no they're not they work for you bud you don't have to do that you can just walk around like me by the way and you'll tell the story and it'll be much better than any fucking photo that's basically taken

right up there i've been at a couple events where there was a red carpet i was wildly you know surprised about what it is. Okay. I didn't know that these people were standing next to pub walls with literally a six-foot red carpet with a pop-up behind them and some good lighting with a rail of people on the other side taking photos. I did not know it was this fugazi of a fucking bullshit. What is this thing?

But then there's obviously the big ones. Sure. You know, it's like for a real thing. For the Ghalas. Yeah. No. For the award show. Yeah.

Like for the award show. Movie premiere. I don't think I've ever. No, I don't go to a lot of these events that AJ goes to. I don't think I've ever been to a red carpet where I was like, oh, that was worth it. You know, like the time that they spent into setting this up. That was worth it. Aspies? I was actually working oh, that was worth it. You know, like the time that they spent into setting this up, that was worth it. Aspies?

I was actually working the red carpet. Oh. Yeah, it was terrible. Worst night of my life. NFL honors? Oh, you had to stand there and get interviews? What? Get burnt?

I ended up Ariel Red. Okay, in real life. What? It was at the fucking crypto.com? Yeah, dude. It was in Cali. It was at the crypto.com center. Come on.

It was so hot. I was working for NFL Network. They were like, and then I go inside. I was at the Crypto.com center. Come on. It was so hot. I was waiting for NFL Network. They were like, and then I go inside. I was there for an hour. Okay, I was supposed to be there for three hours. I'm like, I think I'm going to miss a couple of those. Traffic. You know how the city be.

So I was there for like the last hour in a suit, sweating my ass off. Okay. Got two or three interviews. LaShawn McCoy stopped by. Thank you, LaShawn. They were like, oh, you got to call for him. I'm Got two or three interviews. LaShawn McCoy stopped by. Thank you, LaShawn. They were like, oh, you got to call for him. I'm not calling for these people. There is zero chance.

It's the worst. Oh, there was zero chance of that happening. So I got a couple in there. I think it probably created a good little piece of content. I was lucky to do it, experience it. And then I represented the Indianapolis Colts at the Espy's. I was the only one there. The Colts were up for comeback of the year, game of the year, I think,

against the Chiefs. In the playoffs. In the playoffs. And they actually had a camera shooting me whenever it happened. Here we go. Just you? Yeah, I was the only one in the building. I was like, did we win?

Am I giving a speed? There's no way. And then it was a hockey team, I think, or something like that. I was like, oh, good. Congratulations. But they didn't show me on camera. Congratulations. But they didn't show me on camera. You know, they didn't show me on camera. It was only in the theater a camera came over. I was like, that is not.

That is not. That was the same one where Drake was hosting. It was fucking awesome. It was a good time. And Sterling had just got done being recorded saying terrible things. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Drake did a whole song about Sterling never loved us there was that whole thing and i i was potentially the only caucasian in a rather pretty big area sure okay i let him know

sterling didn't like me either man he didn't like me either because as soon as they go to commercial break the whole theater just gets dead quiet and the lights come on it's like yikes holy how about you like having the seat fillers? Like if you get up and take a leak, they have some girl or guy come instantly come sit in your seat. Sprinting. Boom, boom, boom. It's like, oh, all of this is bullshit. What is the first time that happened to me?

I came down. I was like, who? What? Who stole my seat? Why is this dude sitting next to my wife? What are we doing here? Oh, seat filler. My bad.

Oh, yeah. Wait till the next commercial. We'll get you back to your wife. Okay. That man is you right now. This is what's going on those are insane you go to all those events though i don't know how you do it i went to a i went to the sbs a couple years one year i went to the sbs i think kim blake was hosting i was deathly sick just dripping sweat in my seat it was awful yeah yeah i've never had a good experience in any of those i've never won any

awards either though that's bullshit's bullshit. Nah. Nah. Heisman Radio. That's true. Oh, yeah. You do have that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was. And that hashtag award.

Oh, yeah. They mailed it. Oh, that's right. That's right. Literally. Cool, though. What about that Nickelodeon thing behind you? You won something.

Global Guts. Dude. Yeah, you earned that. It's not a fucking award show, dude. Agro, Craig. You asshole. I have no clue what that show is still. That is embarrassing. To be our age, roughly. What is the show called? Global Guts. Okay, yeah. I have no clue what that show is still. That is embarrassing. To be our age, roughly.

What is the show called? Global Guts. Okay, yeah, I've never heard of it. Guts and Global Guts. Michael Malley. We know AJ. Do you have it? You don't.

You don't. We found out yesterday AJ was tending to his piranhas, so he had a pretty busy childhood. We might have some large news coming out of the NFL, which is a perfect transition right now. Unless there was a McCockner situation or another Bleacher-Raporf situation, there is some news coming out. Ari Mirov of Pro Football Focus is reporting

the Giants are firing offensive coordinator Jason Garrett per Patrick Leonard of the New York Daily News. Wow. Okay. So, Jason Garrett, per Patrick Leonard of the New York Daily News. Wow. Okay. So, Jason Garrett, take your clapping out of time. We don't want it around here no more. Last night, Saquon Barkley failed to rush for even 40 yards, which alternate rush yard bets and parlays were ruined all over the place, because who thinks Saquon Barkley won't

fall for 40 yards? Whatever the case, they they stink the Giants have stunk for a long time when Jason Garrett was hired they stunk he's getting fired they stink I don't think this is all Jason Garrett's fault obviously he might be relieved in his first time calling plays again for the in nine years or ten years whatever it was uh it has not gone great who knows where he ends up next and is this this just for the fans, you think, AJ? I don't know. I mean, if you're the head coach, you got to do something, don't you?

It's either, okay, I'm not going to quit. If I'm the head coach, I got to figure out what I can do to spark this team. And if we feel like offensive play calling is not up to par, then is their new play caller on staff or after the season, they're going to have to go out and find somebody. Oh, yeah, because you can test somebody right now. Go ahead, Diggs.

If Giants-Bucks was a Sunday at 1 o'clock game, does he get fired today? Probably not. Oh, yes. Zito just came into my ear with a beauty. We know who's calling plays. Who? Fourth and 13. He's back.

Freddie Kitchens is back. Holy shit. Freddie Kitchens is saddling the horse of calling plays again as we speak in the bar. Wow. Freddie Kitchens woke up this morning, put his cowboy boots on, his sweats over top of him, said to his family, today's going to be a good day for us.

Goes into work, watch the film. Last night st stonk. Freddie Kitchens, though, knows that they can be better. The internet's abuzz. Jason Garrett's out. And as soon as the news goes that Jason Garrett, the Giants, fired their offensive coordinator on Tuesday, according to a source, pulling the plug 26 games in on a longtime former Dallas Cowboys head coach,

Freddie Kitchens. 26 games in on a longtime former Dallas Cowboys head coach, Freddie Kitchens. Freddie Kitchens saddling the play-calling horse once again. Joe Judge's senior offense assistant is expected to take over play-calling duties with Garrett Gunn, starting with Sunday's visit from the Philadelphia Eagles, who are hot with Sirianni. Oh, yeah. Hey, Sirianni and Freddie Kitchens are going to battle it out this weekend. Oh, my God.

AJ, this is big news. A division rival that has won their last three or four. Go ahead, AJ. Freddie may be able to find a way to hold on to this gig because I didn't know he was the senior offensive assistant. He doesn't even have – he's not a position coach. So that's like a lot of times guys like that, they're tight with the head coach and the head coach wants them on staff.

So they don't create a position. But there's a lot of great coaches I know with positions like that around the league. Well, normally they put them in like a consultant role, right, when they're fired but still being paid from somewhere else. They put them in like a consultant role so they don't have to pay them anything. And, you know, it's kind of like a give and take. Let me rehab my image a little bit, work on stuff, stay in football

while still cashing a check from somewhere else. That's a classic fired coach's move. Did Freddie have any money left when he was fired from Cleveland on the deal? I assume so. He was the tight ends coach. Yeah. In New York. Oh, okay. Alright. With Rudolph and Ingram.

Hey, Freddie Kitchens is beloved by his players. What if they light it up? What if Daniel Jones looks like we've never seen him before? What's that? Dude, come on. The Giants fucking stink. We've seen Freddie Kitchens' song and dance before. He stinks, too.

Whoa! Jesus Christ. I did want to ask, though. We talked about it earlier in the year, and there's already reports coming out of the Giants locker room that all these guys are fed up. And Garrett's an easy fall guy. But at what point, like Joe Judge, the whole doing push-ups, the tough guy being super disciplined,

do you have to go back to the draft? Guys aren't going to want to go there. You've got to win. And we talked about a great point, Ty. I mean, you buried a couple people there pretty quickly. I mean, geez louise. Is Joe Judge safe, though? That's what I'm saying.

No. So we talked about this immediately upon the push-ups and the running and the charades and the antics and everything like that you gotta win you gotta win if you start to lose when you're doing all if you win everybody be like okay we're doing all the bullshit because it pays off we're doing all this childish junior high school bullshit so that you know we win we we make more money we get more spotlight life is a lot better whatever your reasoning is to win, we'll buy in. You don't win, though. And they talked about, I think, what, the first night when Fowler and Herbstreet were calling it.

So it might have been the first Monday Night Football game. And it was against the Steelers, I think. Last year. Joe Judge era was beginning. And if you listen to Fowler and Herbie talk to Saquon and Daniel Dimes, we needed a culture change. It's been we neededimes. We needed a culture change. We needed it. We wanted it.

It was a compliment to the players because the players were buying into this new shit that wasn't necessarily what a lot of grown men would be in with because they need it. You lose, though, AJ. Nobody's buying in anymore. They do push-ups. They fuck off. And we were impressed that nobody did that, right? Remember when that happened? We were very impressed that there wasn't a single person on that team

that said, nah, everybody was doing it. I don't think that is something you can withstand, and Joe Judge has to know that. He definitely has to know that, I feel like. I mean, at this point, yeah, I don't know. Is this his second or third year there? Second. Only two years, yeah.

I mean, if I'm an owner or a GM, I would hope I would give my head coach a few more years to at least figure it out. If you do like what's going on. If you're there day to day and you think he's going in the right direction. Who's the owner? Mara? Mara. Remember Mara when he's hanging out at those events with you

and other billionaires and all that shit? He's like, I'm tired of telling people why we stink. Yes. And we're hanging out at these yachts and thoughts parties, and I'm being asked the entire time, why does your team stink? Why does your team stink? Why does your team stink?

I'm sure Merritt said that. He did. He does. Yachts and thoughts. Oh, yeah. Deep thoughts. What are you talking about? That same thing.

I thought it was deep thinking. Oh, no. You were talking about that. No, you were talking about You're taking out the thoughts, huh? Is that? Oh, that's interesting.

Is that what you were? You were talking about those houses over there? Sure. You were talking about those houses over there sure you were talking about those houses over there what parties are you going oh yachts and thoughts interesting i go to a lot of parties with with mara which one is this which mara is it mara john the owner john dude the old one rooney's dad uncle uncle really i know the rooney family's died in to the Mara family. Oh, yeah. The one actress girl is related to him, too. Kate?

The redhead from your favorite show with Spacey. Kate Mara. That's not the favorite show, dude. Tony's talking about it. It was a good show for a long time. I can't watch it anymore. Oh, did Dixon mention it? Yeah, Rooney Mara and Kate Mara, their grandparents are the Maras and the Roonies.

Oh, so they all do Mary within. Mm-hmm. Hey, let's make sure we keep all this money to ourselves. That's right. That's why the Maras are getting tired of getting. Oh, so they all do marry within. Hey, let's make sure we keep all this money to ourselves. That's right. That's why the Maras are getting tired of getting clowned on when they go to family gatherings. We're keeping the money within all the rich people, but also, what about my life?

It stinks. Our team stinks. What about Danny Dimes? If they're almost done with Judge, are they almost done with Dimes? The Giants are 18 and 40 under Dave Gettleman. That's what I'm saying. Gettleman's the next to go. Attaboyaboy dave nice work i keep swinging the bat the new gm it's not easy

being a gm all of that pressure especially being in new york you get gentlemen how come some people stinking some people don't though will they ever dive into that why you know kind of life isn't it that's everything we and that's why you know live three and a half, yesterday, four hours every day. We'll never get to the bottom of it. Nope. We never, ever will get to the bottom of it, AJ. There will always be space for us then, right, to talk about it. Why does this happen?

Anytime you need a little time or don't know what to talk about, let's just start about why do some GMs end up 18 and 41 and some just slide right in and win a fucking Super Bowl immediately? John Mara's just bitching about, is he a big, dumb dipshit? You live in New York, not Toledo, Ohio. The guy's 18 and 40. Shit can his ass. The Giants are supposed to be good.

The NFL's better when the Giants are a good team. They fucking sucked for 10 years now. It was awesome listening to Parcells and Eli last night talk about the glory days, the high LT back there. You're right. It is giant. It's giant for the NFL. It's an institution.

It's such a historic franchise for the NFL. Ty is right. It's good for the NFL when the Giants are good. I thought the uniforms they were wearing last night, too, reminded me of the old school Giants when they were dominating. We talked about that in the first hour. They looked great. Incredible.

I mean, that was a great costume for Monday Night Football. Oh, yeah. Why don't we? That's a great job, too. What's that? The Giants head coach. Yes, a lot of pressure, a lot of scrutiny being there. But if you can win for the Giants or the Jets, that's just a great spot to be well for all the alum all the connections i mean they are dying they are plugged

in everywhere the giants are plugged in everywhere in every business because of how long and how great they've been in the biggest market in the world i mean it is your fans though although the fans will they will definitely give them a hard time, but they are diehard. Hey, doesn't every fan base? I don't want to knock the bigness of the big city because I was in there this past weekend, and when you're flying in there, you forget how fucking long that line of buildings that are bigger than any city you're in's buildings, just all the way fucking down.

And then, by the way way that thing goes way back as well it is massive i get it okay i very much get it but doesn't every head coach or gm that stink fit i mean they're fire naggies happening at their kids high school football game chicago three third largest city in america but it's quite a difference from new york to chicago whenever you're talking size wise new york is so fucking big. It is absurd, but isn't it always like going to be in your face? Isn't every GM job going to be tough? I get that New York and maybe this is back when there wasn't as much social media and connection. And I think I asked Sanchez this and Sanchez talks about just like, and maybe you can hit on this a little bit more. In our locker room, there wasn't a hundred media people in there every single day in

our locker room. Whenever it was an open locker room session, it was normally like 20 or so people floating around. I guess in New York, it is a hundred people every single day in your locker room, but you can leave the locker room. Like you have to speak for 10 to 15 minutes, but you can leave the locker room. You're with your phone all day and there's people coming to you all day, right? Isn't that? locker room like you have to speak for 10 to 15 minutes but you can leave the locker room you're with your phone all day and there's people coming to you all day right isn't that and if you how

many how much are you guys going out to these events and facing it i just feel like that criticism is a little bit more overblown than i might be wrong just louder i think it's louder in new york maybe it's like the the classic like new york bravado, brash, that people like in your face, I think they just may hear it a little bit more, I guess. And if you go out, you're around a billion people always if you're in the city. Like Philly has to be miserable. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?

Philly's nowhere near as large as New York. I guess it's in the area, though. So, like, Pittsburgh, I mean, granted, they're calling for Tomlin. He's never had a losing season. Could you imagine if Colbert or Tomlin were eight and whatever, Pittsburgh, I mean, granted, they're calling for Tomlin. He's never had a losing season. Could you imagine if Colbert or Tomlin were eight and whatever in Pittsburgh? The people would be fucking storming UPMC training facility. To your point, I don't think, like, you're right. No matter where you're a GM, no matter where you're a coach,

you're going to hear it if you're bad. But I feel like those cities like Pittsburgh, Philly, New York, like those type of cities, like here in Indy. Chicago. Yeah, Chicago. If you're doing bad and you're walking down the street, no one's going to come up and tell you that. In those cities, someone's going to be like, you fucking stink.

And there's a lot more people in that city. But darn, everybody lives in New Jersey. I don't want to continue to harp on this, but it's... I think... Indiana's very nice. It's just magnified. I think it's just magnified. Yeah, but dude, if you get 50 scrolls

of people telling you... Yeah, how many people are doing that? I think if... Oh, you're right. You think Nagy's not on? Oh, these guys aren't on. I can't imagine Nagy would be. If you were a coach, that would be stupid. What if you just want to live, though?

What if you've got some good fucking jokes you want to let fly? Don't be a head coach in the NFL, then are you well you're right i guess because your time is if you are only do it when you're winning which i think should be everybody by the way in the nfl everybody should be winning no you should be chilling if you're not winning oh yeah yeah it's a i mean great gig awesome. There's only 32 of them. But, man, I can imagine day to day it's a roller coaster. You got to sacrifice a lot. The GM position as well.

But it's going to get hot, you know, in the kitchen in a lot of these places. And I guess Jason Garrett's the first domino to fall in this wild 2021 NFL season coaching situation. It's not like these guys don't understand that, though. Yeah. Everybody knows. Yeah yeah he knows exactly i mean and in new york like they're terrible and they've been terrible and just like at a certain point you know and you're getting paid a lot of money to all right so here's another thing i guess with the big city and i literally just thought of this when joe judge did the push-up thing the amount of coverage it got because of the amount of people that are in the...

The local news there is gigantic. Yeah, blew it up. So the things that are just would be potentially local news, maybe not a massive story, all of a sudden are a massive story all of a sudden. Okay, I can see how that would suck. Yeah, because there's some things that slip through the cracks with just the local news. For instance,

X Factor. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, X Factor and things like... There's like local news that slips by. yeah yeah x factor and things like there's like local news that slips by i guess in new york nothing slips by so every single thing you do is a national story okay so maybe it took me a little bit to figure it out i apologize there in new york i guess and they have to before all of the screaming shows and every a million options like with mad dog and francessa you had some like super high profile guys talking about new york sports every day yeah being on radio in new york is still a massive like weren't they syndicated all over the country too i they weren't in pittsburgh i don't think but i they were big

but i know there's a lot of people that just make full very very very successful careers off of being new york radio because of how many people are fucking in the area. I get it. I get it. Okay. I was, but just don't make fucking stupid decisions. How come that doesn't happen? How come they're trying? I promise you they're trying hard.

I'm sure they're working hard, but they just can't figure it out. Be better than the other team. If the Giants are better than the Jets, then you don't take them on the shoes. Hey, just real quick though. There's another question. Why are some teams just, and it's because some places are cursed. I don't know what the Giants did. I know what the Lions did.

And we get a chance to watch them maybe win on Thanksgiving this year. Well, you just can't let it happen in a place like New York either when, like, the city kind of sells itself. Like, guys want to go play in New York. Like, if your team is decent, like, guys want to go play there. If you fucking suck, they don't. But, like, the city is a big recruiting pitch and kind of sells itself. It's cold, though, isn't it?

Sure. It's cold. It gets colder. Yeah, it can get pretty chilly. When they sucked last year in Kenny Galladay, still went to New York. So, I think I paid a lot of money. They're lucky the Jets suck worse or else it'd be even louder. The Jets do suck.

Rex Ryan met with Sala, by the way. They're back on Good Grace. Oh, Dave? What did they talk about? Not today. I don't know if he met with Dave and Bob, but I Rex Ryan met with Sala, by the way. They're back on Good Grace. Oh, Dave? What did they talk about? Not the Dave. I don't know if he met with Dave and Bob, but I know he met with Bob. He said he learned about him more, and it was a good conversation. And productive conversation.

Thinks they got the right guy. That's how it should be. That's great. They had a beef publicly, and then they talked privately, right? And then they moved on, which is, by the way, the world should do that. Yeah. Rex probably saw how fucking stacked Sala is because he is not no small spring chicken. He's a big boy.

He's yoked up. Yoked up. Yeah, Dave is as well. Dave's ready to go. Yeah, did he talk to his brother? I don't know. Was Dave there? Maybe Dave brokered the deal.

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