The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 547 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 12 Recap, Frank Caliendo Live In Studio, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 29, 2021

On today's show, Pat, AJ, and the boys welcome Frank Caliendo into the studio for Overreaction Monday and chat about all the big takeaways from this past weekend, how good the Packers and Patriots look, why the Colts decided to stop giving the ball to Jonathan Taylor and ended up blowing a ten point lead against the Bucs, if the Steelers are dead after getting stomped by the Bengals, what the deal with the Rams is, why teams look great one week and terrible the next, and everything else that happened in a crazy week 12 of the NFL season (:23-44:00, 46:03-1:37:59). Later, joining the show like he does every Overreaction Monday, 9 year NFL veteran at defensive back, Everything DB, host of the Man-To-Man podcast, Darius Butler joins Pat and AJ to give his biggest takeaways from the weekend, why he thinks the Patriots are all the way back, if people should be worried about the Rams, which teams he likes to go to the NFC Championship, if Tua might actually be a guy for the Fins, and who he likes tonight the Seahawks or the Football Team (1:39:08-1:58:47).  Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is overreaction Monday, November 29th, 2021. Yeah, of course it is almost December holiday season. Here we go. Big time overreaction today. Darius Butler stops by AJ Hawk. The boys are on fire. So much to talk about. So little time.

Let's get to it. Today was a great day of nfl football and i i only say that if if you happen to be on the winning side of what happened yesterday there were some games that didn't go our way there were some surprises some downfalls some dead some alive some thriving some surviving some needing a bye week in a bad bad way way. But there was one thing that did die, and that was the heater that the Super Boost was on. And I do apologize. I was the one that selected the first one and then selected again yesterday.

And what we're going to do with this incredible opportunity that we have with FanDuel, where we can reach out directly and say, hey, we want this one particular bet here boosted at higher odds for all of our people. We want to be able to tell everybody that no matter where you're looking on all of the books, because there's books on top of books, there's corner, back pocket books everywhere.

No matter which book you look at, this is the best odd, and in our eyes, the best bet going. We will pass along the torch of who gets to pick that, this upcoming one. Ladies and gentlemen, the man who will be guiding the Super Boost boat into waters we have not ventured in some time. Host of Hammerdown, the COVID Cowboy, Tom Giddens. When's this start? Thursday night football.

You'll have to have a bet that will be boosted. I actually am getting on the horn with the risk and trading department over there. Oh, sure. Because they're the ones that do the – they're the ones we are directly against. Yes. And the situation with us in fandle is fandle doesn't own our company now i'm wearing a fandle hat fandle is right there because they are a massive partner of ours they're our exclusive sports book and we talk about sports most of the

entire show and the odds that get popped up are an incredible part of our conversation it's a naturally beautiful thing but they do do not own any part of this business at all. No, no, no. The only thing they've owned is us in our pocketbooks from the gambling in there, but I'm getting a chance to chat with the risk and trading department, okay?

And I'm getting, because I hear a little pushback. Hey, I want to do this. I want to do this. And it's like, we can't do that. We got to do this. And there's been messages that have been sent to me from the fandom uh let pat know that if if this hits we will lose nine million dollars awesome so whenever they tell me that type of stuff i'm like yeah i love it and they and i say tell them i love it you know so there might be a natural rivalry already sure between they've been beating us though okay yeah they've been beating us especially with that super boost

yesterday. I'm sitting down having a chat with them so we can get on a little bit. Let Tone Diggs, the COVID cowboy, the man who's a prop bet better. Let the man who dives into the sportsbook and finds... Let him pitch any bet to boost. It doesn't always

have to be like, hey, give and take. No, you can't do this. You can't. How about with where we're at right now is how much of the season we got left with our COVID cowboy. Why don't we just go, you know, mano a mano? Yeah, here we go. Why don't we just pick one? You boost it.

We hit. We go. They're going to say, well, that's not fair to us at all. How is that fair at all? And it's like, well, you know what is fair? Whenever you guys always seem to fucking at all. How is that fair at all? And it's like, well, you know what is fair? Whenever you guys always seem to fucking win somehow. Like yesterday, Leonard Fournette, 22 seconds left in the game. Tie

ball game. Just fucking go down. The other team doesn't have any timeouts. You're going to kick the game-winning field goal. Super boost plus three and a half. It's going to cover how you don't keep it moving. We did it. We're back to back. Staring down a Thursday night football game that's going to make us go back to back to back. Nothing ever makes sense, okay? So what's fair about that is what I would to back to back. Nothing ever makes sense, okay?

So what's fair about that is what I would say back to them. And they would probably say that has nothing to do with the conversation we are currently having, but that is what I'm going to push for. So, Tone Diggs, I want to let you know that by Thursday, when it comes time for you to select the super boost for all of us to win upon, I think we're going to have a lot larger net potentially to be catching those winners. Here we go, Tony!

Normally I would shrink and shrivel and step back from a situation like this because not only is it Cowboys versus Saints and not only is it us versus Fandle, but it is now the COVID Cowboy versus Omnicron! Okay, okay. On Thursday because of the Cowboys.

Yeah, well, the Cowboys are potentially staring down Omnicron. Yes, they are. And if you haven't heard about Omnicron, I don't know what you have been doing with your life. I had a very busy weekend. I had a crazy weekend. My wife, I absolutely love her. We had an insane weekend together then i got a chance

to chat with robert mathis and all this and uh very busy a lot going on different you know paths of life doing things both of them both of them there was one particular conversation piece happening no matter where i was chatting hey omicron is not going to fuck around. No, no, no. Seriously. Omicron is the big Bambino. Formidable opponent. Omicron has been training, I heard. That's right. They've been in the shadows just hitting the heavy bag. Khabib.

They've been getting talked down upon. Yeah, they're swimming against rivers. That's right. Omicron has been in against rivers. That's right. Omnicron has been in the lab. That's right. Omnicron has been working on Omnicron. And what I'm hearing about Omnicron, this motherfucker's going to be tough. Yeah, nothing to travel with.

We'll take it down. Get ready. Thursday night, we'll take it down. Hey, we don't know if Delta or Omnicron or Alpha Beta or Pi Kappa Psi. What? We don't know which one is currently running rampant through the Dallas Cowboys locker room. And by the way, T's and P's,

everybody over there, Big Mike McCarthy tested positive for COVID and seven others. Come on. Walk out there. Is this son of a bitch vaccinated? I hope so. I pray he is. I hope he is.

And I hope he does well. Yeah. Hey, Big Mike, I want to let you know, we love you, Ryder. Truly. We appreciate you. Yeah, but that's a tough game. Because who knows where Omicron or Delta Pi Kappa Sappa is going to go whenever it comes to Thursday.

Because if Omicron is the bigger, badder brother of all these things, is anything like the other ones? At the beginning of this, I think it was just basic old 19.

Yeah, yeah, old ass. I was fucking old ass 19. Remember, it got into a building and boom, there was like 22 people that got it. Yeah.

19 was a sprinter. 19 was a sprinter. Then Delta came along elusive. You never really knew where Delta was come. You know, like Delta was like, it could be everywhere. Yeah. Or it could be nowhere. That's what the Delta does.

Magic man. It was. Now you see me. Now you don't. That was kind of Delta's run. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, Delta's run. Omicron, I heard.

Oh. Just kind of a slow, steady walk right through everybody. Mm-hmm. That's what I – Omicron. That's what Omicron. Megatron. So what's that mean for the Thursday game?

This is a short week. We'll figure it out. Is Omicron going to be as quick as 19 or as elusive as Delta and maybe not be as hit or miss as a Pi Kappa Sapata? Mm-hmm. What are they going to do? I guess we'll have to find out. And there's only one man to pick a super boost with that on the line,

with a version of something we hate that we've never seen before. Tony Diggs, we appreciate it. Let's keep in track. Gump had the reins there. One. Then lost. I had the reins there. One. Then. Then lost. I had the reins there. One.

Then Leonard Fournette got down. It's bad football. Bad football. You don't give Carson Wentz 20 seconds with the ball. No. Kick return. I almost went to the house. Rodgers is going to go.

You don't do that, Leonard Fournette. Bad football. Terrible. Anyways, loss. Now 10 digs on Thursday. Come on, Tony. Need you, Tony. Let's talk about these games.

I'm sick of talking about the Superboost losing because the next Superboost is going to hit. Ain't that right, Tony? Hell yeah. Hey, it's going to hit harder than Omicron. Yeah. Here we go, boys. All right. Thank you.

We're about to go on an Omicron. All right. Bring up the sidebar, please. There are some things to talk about. At Ty Schmidt, at Boston Connery here, the boys in the back, I appreciate you all. Aaron Rodgers runs 4'1", 40 with nine toes, gets dubbed. How about him with Jalen Ramsey?

How about him on the run with the pump fake? How you doing? Keep it moving. And then getting around Jalen, so much that Jalen actually uses his own momentum and gets tossed there. Jalen Ramsey, incredible football player. Jalen Ramsey, top-level football player, will be for a long time.

Aaron caught him in that close Sicilian. Hey, when it's you and me on an island after an RPO here, and I got nine toes, one broken pinky toe that they allegedly shot up with what? Good question. A lot of people asking on the internet. Shot up to make you feel a little bit better. Anytime, boom, he knows he's got Jalen moving because Aaron knows that Jalen could conceivably think that somebody is running behind him even though there is nobody behind him.

Boom, gets Jalen up. And as soon as Jalen moves like this, Aaron's like, I got him. Boom around, touchdown, gets touched, does the whole thing. Throwing the ball well. It felt like that defense was hunting yesterday against the Rams. Ty Schmidt, Packers fan, what a night for your boys. Yeah, it was incredible. I mean, the defense after last week, too, you know,

because we'd been pumping their tires so much going into it. They looked incredible. And then, you know, whatever happened in the Vikings game they looked incredible yesterday and it it kind of did feel like a playoff game like it had that playoff atmosphere a little bit the offense is finally starting to get rolling a little bit big Al Dillon was huge yesterday Rodgers was incredible Devontae every single week it's like if he doesn't score a touchdown you wonder like oh did he really do that much you check after the game he had over Rogers was incredible. Devontae, every single week, it's like if he doesn't score a touchdown, you wonder, like, oh, did he really do that much? You check after the game, he had over 100 yards. Cobb played great yesterday.

They're starting to fire on all cylinders. I mean, again, special teams. You muff a punt, like stuff like that. Got a touchdown back. Yeah, got a touchdown back, exactly. Cobb, that's how Cobb, by the way. Yeah, for sure. I'm talking about that's how Cobb in his head.

For sure, and it was on the next drive. So, I mean, he immediately. So he immediately settled up. But they just keep – bye is coming at a perfect time. I guess Rappaport may be reported that Rodgers is going to have surgery on that toe this week. Oh, is he? He's going to miss tomorrow? He's going to be here tomorrow?

He's going to be in the hospital? Hopefully he'll be here tomorrow. But, I mean, you get him coming off that bye feeling a little bit better, Bakhtiari coming back there. I mean, and that's also why we've said all along, like, you see how important it is that they have home field and that they play at Lambeau because teams just don't want to go play there. That turtleneck comes out.

Yeah. It doesn't matter how many toes are good. One good pinky toe, no good pinky toes, no matters when that turtleneck comes out because everybody's feet hurt in the cold everybody's joints hurt in the cold those hits are a little bit more hmm i had to tackle somebody in kansas city on a kickoff and i think it was like the negative 7 000 degree day and i'm not talking celsius boys thank god no i'm not talking no no no fahrenheit whatever the case

i hit him and i never felt this pain that went straight from where I hit the guy directly down my spine to my butthole. I've never felt it in my life. It was like electricity hitting the lightning rod. That is literally what it felt, and I was like, oh, my God. And I honestly believe it was strictly just because of how fucking cold it was. That is quite an advantage. Just like the heat is an advantage earlier in the year when teams travel down to Miami or even late in the year you travel down to Miami when you're in this miserably cold city

or these incredibly dry air places. You go down to Miami, humidity at 7 000 it's 85 degrees you feel like you're literally playing in a sauna it's like what the fuck happened in miami's like oh no this is every single day we get to deal with this but then they go to the cold and now the air is thinner and it's like oh i feel like i'm playing in a cold tub it's like that natural you know kind of osmosis of toughness that happens whenever you're you know thrown into the environment i think you pick it up you know it's like people trying to learn the language throw somebody in they're going to pick it up at some point they might still stink at speaking the

language but if everybody around them speaks the language they're going to pick it up a little bit you live in the cold for five weeks you're going to be better in the cold than somebody that's traveling in there for one day that is just a that is just natural life Lambeau has to be one of the biggest advantages in all the football yeah for sure and then like I mean the Packers are fast enough like if they do have to go play on the road in like a dome stadium you know it's like they'll be fine but like it's very clear yesterday and Stafford I mean he's played at Lambeau how many times? He looked just like he did when he was in Detroit. A couple bonehead plays here, a couple huge plays, but it is. Hey, Stafford,

what is going on with Matthew Stafford? He's hurt, they said. Tiger can't change his stripes. Oh. Need positive vibes out of you this week, Superbiss. Need positive vibes out of you this week, but you are somebody who hates that Matthew Stafford gets heralded so much better of a quarterback than Ben Roethlisberger,

who's won a Super Bowl. That is your natural deep down. But this week, since you're guiding the Superboost boat, positive vibes. Oh, man, maybe not. You just do you, dude. If you want to bury anybody, who cares? If we get Superboost, we do that. Matthew You just do you, dude. If you want to bury anybody, who cares? If we get super boosts, we do that. Matthew Stafford looked bad, though.

But was it the Packers' defense? I mean, that was definitely part of it, but they didn't blitz him a whole lot. I mean, they got pressure pretty decent with the four guys up front. But he was throwing balls behind guys where usually he's putting it right on their numbers, like on third downs and stuff like that he just he just didn't look very good robert's uh robert woods not being there has been a huge huge thing odell beckham jr catches that touchdown but then they're missed a couple times i'm starting to wonder you know will it ever who will it you know if it doesn't work here you know how many more opportunities will they'll get? I think it's going to work, though.

I mean, caught a long ball. Stafford dropped that thing right in the bucket. I mean, it was a great route. I think he's a little hurt, Odell. He's back. He's back. He's a little bit hurt. I hope it works.

I honestly do because it would be amazing to have Odell in L.A. But, man, Matt Stafford, I did not expect to see any of that, especially going back to Green Bay. He's played there a lot. He's comfortable in the NF NFC North he knows what it's like playing in the cold I mean even though you have a dome in Detroit you have an outdoor practice facility that you have to get used to I did not expect that Sean McVay I wonder what he's thinking right now yeah and with the Cardinals too they're at best a wild card team right because there's no way that they're going to surpass the Cardinals with and the Niners are getting hot? Because there's no way that they're going to surpass the Cardinals with Kyler. And the Niners are getting hot.

Yeah, the Niners are getting hot. They're also in the wildcard. And Kyler's tweeting out GIFs of, you know. Okay, yeah. At Boston Corner, you're much younger than I am. We'll move on from the Packers. Congrats to the Packers. Good win, boys.

Great win, boys. And so the Rams, they'll still figure. There's too much talent there for them not to figure it out. They're pretenders. But there's a lot of, what's that? I think they're pretenders, though. You don't think they're contenders i think we can i mean if they have to go on the road in the playoffs they're not gonna win they're just not going to are you

are you writing it down is this prediction for the ram season you just called what is what's gonna happen no no yeah just simply i test based on this is overreaction monday exactly exactly they're still a very good football team do i I think they're going to win the Super Bowl? Not a fucking chance. Okay. Why? Team? Yeah. I mean, they just... You mentioned the thing about Rodgers or guys playing for five weeks or whatever in the cold weather.

Couldn't that go the opposite way with Stafford? You get used to being in L.A. and it's like you go back out there. Tom. Yeah, Tom. Exactly. You go back and play in these cold places, which they inevitably might have to do. And it's like, oh, fuck. This wasn't like it was two, three years there. Tom. Yeah, Tom, exactly. You go back and play in these cold places, which they inevitably might have to do, and it's like, oh, fuck, this wasn't like it was two, three years ago. Tom said, I thought I was a cold-weather quarterback. Then I went down to Tampa, and I was like, oh, I'm a warm-weather quarterback.

Yeah. Everything is looser and nicer. The weather is a real thing, but congrats to the Packers. Let's talk to at Boston Con, not about what we were about to chat about, but let's talk about the Patriots. The Patriots are at a level right now that I think everybody is disgusted with. I saw a tweet that got put up there that for the last six games, basically,

Bill Belichick and the Patriots have been completely dominant. Win-loss 6-0, points per game averaging 35.2, points per game allowed averaging 10.5, turnovers four of them takeaways 17 my only three words i could think of whenever i read that was son of a because it does appear as if this team that is hated by every afc team city that is a real football city i grew up in pittsburgh they hate new england they hate other cities, but they hate the New England Patriots. Come to Indianapolis, New England Patriots at the top.

They hate the Patriots. You go anywhere, basically, in an AFC city that loves football, they fucking hate the Patriots. Why do you hate the Patriots? Well, they cheat. They cheat. They control the weather. They win.

Their quarterback is like this incredibly handsome guy who lives his life. And these guys, once again, they win. All they're doing is winning and beating my favorite team. And this stinks. This stinks. They're rubbing it in their face. And then Tom Brady leaves. And then the Patriots go five and seven and nine seven and nine and everybody's like yeah yeah welcome to

our world we were actually telling connor hey welcome to foxy's life pal welcome to foxy's life in the middle of last year when even bill belichick seemed to be waving the white flag on the season during interviews and press conferences saying things aloud that Bill Belichick would have never said in the 20-year dynasty. Basically, we fucking stink in his own way of saying it. He understood the team wasn't good. Cam Newton was the quarterback. He got COVID.

He wasn't the quarterback he was before COVID, after COVID. So it's just one of these things where all lines and stars were pointing to and heading towards you guys sucking and Bill Belichick retiring and he was starting to talk and he was hosting a show with Rich Eisen it's like he's accomplished all this maybe he just retires and then everybody who knows him is like you think he's going to retire after Tom Brady wins the Super Bowl and he does not you have no idea Bill Belichick is about to go. And on the first day of the tampering period.

Yeah. First day of the tampering period, $150 million in guaranteed contracts to players. Bill Belichick said, I sunk for one year. I ain't sucking ever again. Nope. That team is in. Oh, yeah. Mac Jones is balling.

Defense seems to be flying around. Jake Bailey's an absolute legend. Bill Belichick, still Bill Belichick, it feels like. This has got to be quite a treat for you, New England fans, who potentially had a life of misery looking ahead for a little bit. Yeah, it was unbelievable. And to your point, I was staring down Foxy's life, but seven and nine, that kid would kill for that record. So it wasn't really that close.

But yeah, it's unbelievable. This is the fifth the fifth time i believe in the belichick tenure that we've gone undefeated in november obviously the other four times we did go to the super bowl i mean no big deal it's just you know stuff that happens but i mean early on in the season you start two and four and there is that little doubt that's like okay in three weeks there's a chance that we don't even talk about the patriots anymore and now you know half a game out of first place the Ravens are the Ravens they I mean Lamar threw four picks there's it's not as if there's one team in the AFC aside from the Chiefs the Chiefs still kind of scare the shit out of you just because you know they can turn it on whenever but we were just mentioning the home field advantage the

Packers have and how some are dome teams if you look at like the top ravens they're outdoors pats outdoors bills outdoors kc outdoors pats are five and oh on the road so i don't think the one seed is as big of a deal for new england just being at the top is incredible i mean it really is a dream you got the bills on monday night football next week before we get to that, I mean, you got to stretch here. The Titans, the Bills, and then a buy or the Bills or Colts or Bill, whatever the case is. Yeah. You just – I was watching highlights because I was at the Colts game

and they were showing highlights on TV in the suites that I was in. No big deal. I was in three suites. Whoa. Four suites. Four? I was in four suites. Geez.

No big deal. Bouncing around suites, suites, suites, kit and kit. What? Oh, No big deal. Bouncing around, suites, suites, suites. What? Oh, this is the boring suite. Okay, I'm out of here. I'm going to that suite. I'm not supposed to be there. But they show some highlights, and Mac Jones just like boom, boom,

and then slinging it just right in stride, just wide open. The decisions that are being made by Mac Jones, how the fuck did he just fall there? Yeah. How did he fall there? It makes no sense. How's it happen? Zach Wilson gets a big win, hey, in his game back.

Congrats, Zach. Congrats, Zach. Zach might be a player. We have no idea about Zach. Through the worst interception of the season by far yesterday. No, no way. No way. I've seen one in the fourth quarter. It might have been.

That was classic miscommunication. It was bad. It's like his third game or whatever because he's been hurt for so long. Zach Wilson might be. That's actually, yeah, because he was last time. I don't know if that's the number, but it is above 10. The most interception is still alive. Peyton Manning threw a lot of picks.

No, but whatever the case, Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson. I mean, these conversations. Trey Lance, which we don't know because Jimmy G is fucking doing it right now. Jimmy G, when he's healthy and playing and confident, he's really good. That Niners team is very good right now. He's the number two quarterback in the month of November this year. So we can't judge Trey Lance yet because he hasn't really played.

Justin Fields, Chicago traded up ahead of the Patriots to get Justin Fields. Who knows how that's going to go? I mean, who knows how? What the fuck are the Bears doing? Stare down and rebuild. Yeah. Whoever Justin Fields gets with will be massive, and hopefully he'll have great success.

Although all stats and odds tell us that three out of those five would not have a couple of great success. You know, that is what odds. I don't know how any of them are going to be able to do it mac's going to be able to do long term he is an assassin he is a cerebral assassin legitimately he and i know they had him do uh hey we need to do another workout where you're doing off balance throws yeah and i assume bill belichick was there going why are these people doing this like just fucking protect the guy like can can tom brady do off-balance throws no can aaron rogers do off-balance throws yes he's an athlete

is mac jones going to be able to do what aaron rogers does no but can he do more than what tom does yes okay let's put him in the fucking let's put him in a game what are we even talking about he's a stud dude he is so good at football. It looks like, and it might be because Man in the Arena, Episode 2, Tom Brady talks about Bill Belichick coming in and talking to him on Saturday and saying, hey, this team is going to do this. This team is going to do this. And then they're going to do this. And then Tom is sitting there.

And the next day, less than 24 hours later, he looks. The team does, okay, okay. Oh, okay. So we're playing with like a cheat sheet on us. The next day, less than 24 hours later, he looks. The team does. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Oh, okay. So we're playing with like a cheat sheet on this. Matt Jones has that brain, they said, coming out. Like he has a photographic memory. He's going to have the recall of the defense.

And he's got a, you know, a fortune teller. Yeah, a Sith Lord. What is that? Yeah, it's a Star Wars thing. Sorry. No, a Sith Lord. What is that? It's a Star Wars thing, sorry. No, Sith Lord is somebody who knows the future? I mean, they're like villains who do stuff for the future, perhaps. Yeah, you could say. Do they know the future?

Some of them do. Some of them never die either. So Sith Lords are the future. You could say that. Well, I don't know if Bill's a Sith Lord. I assume a lot of people hate Sith Lords. Ah, I don't know. They're the bad guys.

Yeah, unless you root for the bad guy. I like the bad guy, naturally, just because. So I think maybe he is the Sith Lord then. Fortune teller, future teller, whatever the case, psychic. I think that might help Mac Jones as well, which that is what everybody has said since the beginning. The best situation, a lot of people are going to say for the Niners, for Trey Lance. But if you're able to go to New England is what the conversation was. You get to do whatever.

Josh McDaniels has to be so fucking pumped. Oh, yeah. And I don't think there's any reason that he would want to leave. And same with Bill now. And to your point about the free agents, Kendrick Bourne yesterday, he played unbelievable, probably his best game. Hunter Henry's been great. And with our run game, even when Mac is having, you know,

one of those off days like he has in the past, you can just hand the ball off to, you know, Damian Harris or Ramondre Stevenson, and you can kind of just hammer that. So, really, it is a very complete team. If Mac doesn't make any mistakes, there's a chance we can go on a run here. All right, well, good luck. Let's move on.

Hey, think about when old Buddy, you know, lined up on the guard yesterday. Oh, yeah. Oh, Kirk. Oh, shit. Hold on. He had to fix the formation, too. Justin Jefferson's on the wrong side of the field.

So I wonder how that doesn't happen more often, you know? Like, how does it not happen more often? You could see how somebody's potentially scanning and then, like, looking down. And if it's a heavy, which I don't think this one is. I think it was just classic five there. But if you had more people on the line, like, maybe you could get a little lost just for the moment

but not actually go dial it in. Kirk was in it. Oh, yeah. Hey, he was running a fucking play over that. The guard, I don't know what the guard was thinking or how the guard was feeling. Tack was almost eye-to-eye with him. The motherfucker, you are way too close to me.

I wasn't able to hear your cadence for a large majority of this game. Now it sounds like you are talking to me. Did you just get closer to me, Kirk? It feels like, and then timeout. The running back at one point even goes up and does it. Shout out to Kirk. It's the backup running back, too. He did not want to be the one. I cannot get this snap.

I don't know what Kirk's doing right now. He's supposed to be under center, too. That ball's going on the ground. How about the center? What was the center thinking? Is this guy... Is he in shotgun? Over here. This is my ass how'd they create that to be the way to start football i don't know but it's awesome yeah payton's place is actually dives into it i believe

because i think they used to do side right they used to do like side things because the side snap is still something that can happen on like a – you have to be down like this. You can side snap it on like a muddle huddle. Did they used to do that? And rugby, they have that scrum thing. Right. I wonder how they got to the point where they were like, bend the fuck over, all right, put that ball right to your tank.

Just right to your tank. My hands will be there. As good as gold, my hands will save it. How is that what they want? Who knows? I don't know, but I'm happy. I'm happy about it. Yeah, it's perfect.

I'm happy. I mean, I think I could have been pretty good high school quarterback, maybe D2 quarterback. I could run back. I'm pretty good. Maybe slip my way into a low D1 school play quarterback. We would have been shotgun, though, I think. I don't know.

Spread it. I mean, there's some of those centers, they sweat disgustingly. Oh, yeah. Tom Brady says no taint sweat. Yeah, I need two towels down there. That's right. Respect that, by the way. But he's Tom Brady.

He can do that. I don't know how many other quarterbacks are going to be like, Hey, I need you to stop with your ass. Clean it up. That's crazy. No more sweating. The guard got the feel for the first time since probably like high school. I was in high school, college.

He was probably guard center, whatever. Swing, whatever. I wonder what he's at. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Jesus. Who the hell is that? I have taken. Snaps?

Yeah. Oh, yeah, you had to work on the. Yeah, across the thumb, man. Across the thumb, big web. I want left leg back out of that thing. You know what I mean? Oh, okay, you had to work on the – Yeah, cross the thumb, man. Cross the thumb, big web. I want left leg back out of that thing, you know what I mean? Oh, okay. So is Peyton left leg back or right? You know, I never got to train with him.

What? Yeah, every time I was doing my drills on Saturdays with Clyde Christensen and Frank Reich, and, you know, I was always alone on the field. It was me, practice team center, practice squad running back, and then a practice squad wide receiver. Okay. Extra reps. Whoa.

Yeah, yeah. Come on. I would even do the full, like. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then as we got, as it went on and on, it got more ridiculous. Game reps. Frank Reich.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would. Time out. I don't know the play. I don't know the play. Real simulation. I bet they love that.

We're doing the same play you did last time. I know. We don't need to do this anymore, do we? By the time, it got to a point where I was running the same six plays every single week, and it got pretty comfortable. where I was running the same six plays every single week, and it got pretty comfortable. But I had audibles to change sides, so I actually had like 14 plays or so if I was to ever go in. Well, you actually played scout team quarterback for a week.

Yeah, no, not a week. Oh, yeah, I used to play against the 7-on-7, basically, against our defense, where I even read the cards. Here's priority throw, second throw, third throw. And I told this the cards. Here's priority throw, second throw, third throw. And I told you the story before. Yep. We went down to play the New Orleans Saints the year we were not good. And I was playing quarterback against the shell of our defense. No D-line, but the shell of our defense.

Linebacker safeties and corners. You have a look team, and it's card offense. And I'll tell you what. I hit that tight end for maybe 10,000 yards. I mean, I couldn't even tell you the name of the practice squad tight end at the point, and there might have been three of them. But there was just this one little look where you just look, boom, and then bang, that tight end was wide open.

We had a Tampa 2 we were running, I believe. I believe we were running a Tampa 2 at the time. The seam just ended up being wide open if you just did one little look. So going into that game, flying down there, there was conversations between me and a couple of the linebackers that were in the drills that were happening and a couple of my friends that were watching practice,

maybe the kicker and everything. It was like, I've had a lot of success this week. I've had a pretty fucking good week of practice. That's not good, right? And oh, no, no, no, no, not good. Turns out Drew Brees and Jimmy Graham did pretty similar. They won by 60.

And I know, we knew it was coming. We knew it was coming before we got in there. But yeah, that was a good time. The thought of Kirk Cousins lining up on the wrong butt is awesome though. But they lost to the Niners, and the Niners are all the way back. Speaking of a team that's all the way back, the Bengals.

Joey Burrow in the Bengals. The Bengals were such a fascinating team because they're, I guess, alongside the Rams now or the Chargers are the only team that don't have an indoor practice facility. Chargers or Rams couldn't do a walkthrough

because it was too windy at SoFi Stadium. How do they build an $8 billion stadium out there in Los Angeles and it has to get delayed from rain? And it has to get delayed. They can't practice because of wind. What are we doing? Not good. What $8 billion doesn't get you fucking anything?

Yeah, apparently not. How did that get? They must have told Stan Kroenke it'll be 80 and sunny every single day this thing's open. They have a little wind tunnel coming from, I think, the north side. The side that's not connected to the ground. And that's where it kind of...

It just creates a tornado. They have a tornado inside of there. They built an $8 billion tornado creating structure. Good for science. Good for science. You can test out some real shit in there. Science is doing it.

I can't believe it. Anyways, the Bengals, no practice facility, haven't teamed. They are and appeared to be a team that was going to go earlier this year. Jamar Chase, obviously drafted out of LSU, had a couple drops in training camp after not playing for an entire year. He got back and just started scoring touchdowns all over the place. Oh, Joe Burrow

slinging it. Confident. Swag. Running the rock with Joe Mixon. The defense they invested in and Trey's making plays. They're all over the place. The Bengals are the fucking Bengals. Yeah. Then he hit a schneid.

Anybody know what happened? What happened during the schneid? They got a little cold, started losing games. None of us expected. A lot of us lost a lot of money on the schneid that they went on because I believed in Joe Burrow. What happened to the Bengals? Do we recall what happened when they started losing?

They were on that roll, and then they went into a dangerous game where they were on a roll and went and played the worst team in the league, and the Jets. And they lost to the Jets. And Mike White. Oh, Mike White game came. And then they lost to the Browns after that. Because they were still so hungover from the embarrassment.

Right. We just gave Mike White five cuds in a – Yeah, 400 yards. In a superstardom. Yeah. Okay. And then they played the Raiders and won. And then they beat the Raiders.

And then, obviously, yesterday. What they do to the Pittsburgh Steelers gets me so excited for the people of Cincinnati. So exciting for the who-day. Who-day. Who-day say you're going to beat them Bengals. People over there in the natty. Because yesterday, they dog-walked the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Oh, yeah. Ben Roethlisberger. Might as well start throwing with his left hand this guy multiple picks pick sixes out there he looks terrible now

you guys have been calling for Ben Roethlisberger's demise for a long time everybody's been saying hey this guy at some point

is going to have to hang him up his style of play over the years is literally that of a battering ram. A man who does not care about health. A man who does not care about hits.

He does not care about anything except for extending a play, making a play, getting back in shotgun, doing it again. And his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Okay, that's right. Well, he no longer bops it.

But now everybody on TV is saying, hey, Ben Roethlisberger needs to walk off the field. It's over. He threw some bad, bad, bad balls yesterday. And Joe Mixon went for a couple of tuds and went big. Joe Burrow made some plays. The defense, obviously, for Cincinnati looked good. But the conversation today is that your savior, your seven,

needs to go out behind the woodshed, Tone. How do you feel about Ben Roethlisberger potentially holding back the Steelers and staring down maybe a rebuild here in Pittsburgh with Nodge probably as the center point? Seven's been seven all season long. He's been the same seven. There was no difference in yesterday. Seven's not the issue.

The defense has given up 200 yards rushing in the last three games. Oh. Like when it was the killer beast, offense was great. Defense sucked. The last three years, offense has sucked. Defense has been great. The last few weeks, they both suck. The team is dead.

They're not going to win a game the rest of the season. Seven's probably going to retire after the season. That's fine. What if he doesn't want to? I'm not going out like that, Ben Roethlisberger. I can't. Greatest quarterback in Steelers history. One of the greatest of all time in the NFL.

Yeah, but he's not going to want to go out easy. No, not like this. He's not going to want to go out like this. Well, when you lose seven straight at the end of the season. I'm going to go back and I took something away from my routine that I once had when I was playing good ball. That's right. What if that's what he does this offseason?

You know how he wears that shirt that says different? Yeah, I have it. But then it says at the bottom, but still what I was doing back in the day. Still beating. What if it is? What if that is what Ben needs to... He needs to... Well, if it is,

he needs to increase it about 4X. There is no... He looked bad yesterday. There is no chance Ben Roethlisberger walks away after this season and says... Not like that. He's going to say,

I'm not going out like that. Then what are you guys going to do? Rooney, now maybe he will. I don't know Ben at all. This is me just watching along as somebody who's from Pittsburgh, has a lot of friends in Pittsburgh, has seen Ben in a lot of places in Pittsburgh and followed along. There's no way he would just kind of go off into the night.

No. Especially with what he's seen with other quarterbacks, what they're getting in warm weather, getting an opportunity to build your own offense, to basically bring in whoever he's going to want to play. The Steelers are going to have to tell him no, I think. Listen, Old Yeller didn't want to have to go back out behind that barn either. But, you know, sometimes what has to be done has to be done.

You're going to shoot Ben Roethlisberger? Metaphorically speaking. Because in New England, they say, hey, you need to retire to people. It's very uncomfortable. Then they drag people for doing it, even though, you know, hey, you need to retire to people. It's very uncomfortable. Then they drag people for doing it, even though sometimes you've got to do it. Well, Teddy Bruschi is like the great example of that happening, where, hey, you need to retire. And he actually did.

And then he goes on and has an incredibly successful TV career. They try to do it to Tom, allegedly. We're not 100% sure. Tom goes, no, no, no, no, no, TB12. I've extended 10 more years. I eat avocado ice cream. I'm going down here to do it to Tom allegedly we are not 100 sure Tom goes no no no no TB12 I'm I've extended 10 more years yeah I eat avocado ice cream I'm going down here to do this it's like Brett Favre I mean that guy should have retired what six seven eight nine ten times I mean there is ended up playing for like 12 teams I mean it was unbelievable he still had it by the way there was moments where he still had it which I assume Ben will continue to have

and I would like to pivot away from Ben Roethlisberger because he does not deserve all of this hate, even though he played terribly yesterday. He knows he played terribly yesterday. I just look forward to that he's probably – I mean, they're going to have to force him out of there. Remember, he said it was my idea to take less money to play. That's right.

It was my idea to come back. I want to do this, even though all my friends that I played with all retired and basically everybody is gone. I love these guys. These guys love me. I want to come back, even though all my friends that I played with all retired and basically everybody is gone. I love these guys. These guys love me. I want to come back and everything like that. So I'm sure he'll say, yeah, it's good for me to go. Maybe he will.

Maybe I'm – They did it with Troy. There's no reason they can't do it with Ben. Troy Paul, Mollet, Ben Roethlisberger, similar people? Well, I don't know. I've never met them. You think? I don't know.

But that's not their decision. They're calling for Ben's head on TV. Oh, yeah. Well, they've been doing that for fucking five years. Which leads me to my next point. What's going to stop it from six to seven to eight years? Because Rooney said, yeah, we're not 100% sure Ben's done after this year either. Well, that was when they were winning games.

Oh, So you guys are staying over there in Pittsburgh? You don't give a fuck about Ben? I'm just saying all these people calling for Ben's head on TV, what's the other option? We saw what Rudolph is. He's a tie against the Lions. Dewey Haskins is on his phone during pregame warm-ups. He ain't getting in there. What do you want them to do?

At this point in the season. No, no. At this point in the season, they're going to let Ben play. Ben's going to finish this play. Oh, yeah. Ben's going to finish this. And people that are – I don't know if anybody's saying that they should be not doing that. That would become an Eli Manning, Geno Smith situation where it was obviously Eli's last year.

And McAdoo's like, yeah, yeah, let's extradite that. Let's get you out of here now. And he got fired. And then they were like, oh, Eli, you will get your kind of send-off that you deserve. That's what this will maybe be, huh? You guys will just send Ben off. They play Cleveland the last game of the season.

That'll be a nice little parting gift for Ben. There we go. Tua. Oh. Might be a guy. Tua might be a guy. Don't look now. Tua. Now, when I asked the question to a guy. Don't look now. Tua.

Now, when I asked the question to Justin Herbert, what are the Chargers, by the way? What's going on with the Chargers? They're so inconsistent week to week. What's going on? What's going on? It seems like all is going right, and then all of a sudden something happens.

It's like, what the fuck just happened to the Chargers? Why? Denver did not play. Hey, in division, that's a big-time game. Oh, yeah. But I don't think they did anything that was like you know incredible to get that win now i did watch a condensed version of the game so i didn't see every single play but it sure felt like the chargers really gave that one away and it's

like why are the chargers doing that why are they inconsistent still young gotta remember they're still a young team even though we saw a lot of herbert and there was already a coaching change he's in a second coach they are still a young team but Even though we saw a lot of Herbert and there was already a coaching change, he's in his second coach, they are still a young team. But I did not expect them to lay an egg like that at all. The one pick, ugly, nasty. The deflection, bad ball. Deflections are kind of a pain in the ass. But they did not look good at all.

But when I talked to Justin Herbert, we'll see what they do next week. And by the way, Patrick Chautain. Hey, what a big play, Zatya. He's very good. He's very good at football. Yeah, he is a lockdown guy. Yeah. He's very, very good. But when I talked to Justin Herbert, I said,

you know, has Tom Telesco told you how happy he is Miami took Tua? And I made it as a joke because I think the overall narrative, even in our eyes, is that Justin Herbert is a dude, and we don't know what Tua is. And I think with Tua, we don't know because of all the fuckery. I mean, all of the fuckery. It's not just a tiny bit of fuckery.

It's a super dose of fuckery. Even when he was playing last year, they were pulling, well, first, Fitz is the starter. Okay, Fitz is beloved by the locker room. Fitz is having success. Bye week comes. Then unbeknownst to everybody, it is announced in the media that Tua is benching Fitz. After one of the most emotional wins Fitz has ever had, Kyle Van Nooyen came on our show.

He was playing on the Finns at the time. He even said, yeah, Tua's cool, but, oh, Fitz magic. It was a moment that was happening. And it was almost like a perfect situation for Tua to get to watch a successful team, a veteran quarterback. He asked a lot of questions. He was very engaged. But then out of nowhere, B-Flow, and probably the owner who decided to draft Tua in the top five, says, I want to see Tua. At the bye week, when the Finns were on a run with Fitz at quarterback

felt like everything was really humming they bench Fitz publicly before privately telling him put Tua in there to start and now Tua is beginning his NFL career in turmoil not just because publicly the perception but in the locker room too. Fitz had that locker room, and Tua was the backup. Tua understood the position. I think Fitz and Tua have both come out very positive of each other. That's a tough situation. This is Drew and Tom almost, but instead of winning a Super Bowl, we're kind of in the middle of the transition process still.

That's weird. So then Tua would start playing, the game would get close, and they'd pull Tua out, they'd put Fitz back in. So now you're even driving a wedge between the roster and the locker room and the fans and everything even more. Tua had to get through all that shit. And then this year comes in, he's a starter. Here we go.

Well, actually there's rumors that the Hunters would like to trade for a guy that has 22 cases off the field against him and get you the hell out of here when you haven't even got to play a full season or full games or meaningful football yet they just feel as if you're not a guy an injury happens to his ribs somehow it gets leaked out of the building that he had no he had no injury so it was like he was getting buried by them it seems like all situations have led for him to maybe take the easy way out and say yeah this is not good get me out of here but instead it feels like Tua keeps his ukulele keeps it going and plays when he has to him hitting waddle in stride him getting big time wins I wonder why it has been

the way it has been Gumpy with Tua it drives me nuts I mean it feels like he was never given a chance but you see now they're designing their game plan around him. It's like what the Patriots have done with Mac Jones. Like, go to what he's good at. Waddle has been unreal. He gives it to Gusecki. They're just playing good offense, and he's not making mistakes like he had been earlier in his career.

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City and uh Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, right outside of Philly. Philly, right outside of Philly. Yeah, and also, I believe there is a town over there, Intersex. I believe Intersex is right near there.

I believe it's near Bethlehem. There's some other, there's a blue ball, I think. There's a blue ball. I was just waiting. I didn't know where you were going with it. That area has some great names. I had an frank caliendo yeah yeah trying to figure out this

chair that's built for a normal size human being i've never felt so next to santa claus i have a 28 inch inseam i'm not a tall person this is horrific so we'll be able to change i think now i'm not the guru of the gamer chairs the 40 of these just showed up at the office because zito and billy in the back tried to work their own side deals to get their own chairs so we end up with a bunch of them they're very nice they can move we can move those oh yeah i figure but i thought it would be funnier for me just to sit here i want i'm i'm worth it it's for to me it's worth it for the gag get a couple extra laughs. Get settled.

Get going. And see what happens. Well, get going. You're getting back on stage. Is this the first time since COVID? No, I've been out a little bit. I've been doing things here and there. But not that much.

You know, it's kind of weird. You get clubs. People are a little bit weirder about going to the clubs because it's a little bit more confined. But these are theaters. Like Pittsburgh's a theater. And then because it's a little bit more confined. But these are theaters, like Pittsburgh's a theater. And then Atlantic City's a theater. They're all theaters right now. Oh, they're all theaters.

I've been working on my Pat McAfee, too. I figured out something with your voice. I got Pat McAfee excited. I started to figure that out. And it came from, and this is only like a 30% of the way there, but it was like a week or two ago. You were talking about Lamar Jackson.

What is wrong with the grass in Baltimore? That's where it comes from. It's breaking news, A.J. Hawk. There's an undescribed illness. And you don't say the letter L. You say illness, illness. Good luck diving in there. Yeah, but there's a lot.

A.J. Hawk. And then the way you pronounce names like Lamar Jackson. And there was just this rhythm that I started to figure out. I don't have it 100% there, but I played it for my son. He's like, oh, that's getting there. He doesn't like anything I do. And then he's like, oh, that's getting there. He doesn't like anything I do. And then he's like, oh, that's starting to get there. Hey, I want to let you know, it would be an honor.

I don't know how other people react whenever it happens, but if you ever get one, it would be an honor to hear. Honor. Honor. Honor. I'm here just, that's really the only reason I'm here. It's just to own it. Because people are like, how's the Pat McAfee coming?

I'm like, I'm trying to figure it out. These things take time. Yeah, you do a lot of film, like real shit, right? Like watch, rewind. Yeah. I used to do it a lot more when I used to work a lot harder. But now I'm trying to get back into it again and do that again. It was funny because Michael Lombardi, you know Lombardi, right?

So I was talking to Michael Lombardi about something. And he's talking about Jim Nance. He's like, oh, I'm good friends with Jim Nance. I'm like, oh, you are. So I go, he's done that thing. Have you heard my bit about Nance and Romo? Oh, yeah. With the Nance and Romo, for the people who haven't heard it, it's, Romo just gets

really excited. Oh, Jim, this is going to be incredible and amazing. Like he's talking through a smile. That's the whole thing. Oh, Jim, you can see my tongue is moving behind my teeth, but it's so hard to see because there's just the Skechers money and then that's the here we go Jim and then I don't really have the Nance down so all I do is go Tony so I only have to say one word and have it be close enough so but that's happens. When Nance gets excited,

it's like somebody is messing around with the volume meter on the board and he just goes, to the sideline. Anybody hate it? Anybody ever come to you and say, hey, stop doing what you're doing about me? Nobody really hated it. Nance called me. I got a call from Nance and it was the grace because he leaves

the message like, Frankie! Jim Nance giving me. I got a call from Nance. And it was the grace because he leaves the message like, Frankie. Jim Nance giving you a call. So it was just awesome. And then I ended up calling Nance back and talking to him for a while. And it was like super. The same as you. Like that's really cool and great that you're doing that. It's awesome.

But they've done that in the game a couple times. Tony. Oh, yeah. Naturally. Hey, have you talked to Tony about your impression of him in his heat? I have not. You've never talked to Tony? No, no.

He's Corona Tony. We feel like he's, but you say he's talking through a smile. The boys think he's potentially talking through a little bit of a... Through the bottle. Through some beer goggles. He's going to get that little pin there. Oh, Jim, there's a tiny little me with a ventriloquist mouth moving. Those are great commercials.

I mean, he's... Yeah. You really think that? No, it's just... There's one charity event that definitely happened. There's some video. Oh, but that happens all the time. I mean, any place I've ever been, there's...

Some people are just tossing some back and they're really excited after a while and you're going oh my goodness this is something i should never talk about do you have to go to a lot of those events do you go to those because we talked to aj hawk and he go he gets invited to all these events i think he's number five overall pick so he goes to those things you can probably get hired for a lot of those yeah i'm usually not invited to be a friend. I'm usually invited to entertain. Hey, Clyde, come dance. Yeah, that's exactly what Chester is when it comes to mind.

The one that I remember was actually the golf tournament, the NBC golf tournament in Tahoe. And it was one of the funniest things because Roethlisberger is just sitting there, and I'm just walking through the back. He's like, Mr. Caliendo. I'm like, really? Mr. Caliendo? And this is 10, 15 years ago. Good guy. He's a gentleman. Oh, yeah.

Manners. But it was, you know, Barkley's singing karaoke in the bar, like, because it's Thriller. Thriller night. Those zombies gonna eat you. You know, so those moments. Is that your best, you think, Barkley?

Barkley, it depends on what people like. Barkley, you know, Barkley's up there. Because it's one that you can talk like what it really talks like. And then you can go, oh, that's ridiculous, Tony. That's ridiculous. You know, that's terrible. You can get the bigger version of it. But yeah, that's up there.

And then there's certain ones that I can say a lot with, and there's certain things that I can only say certain phrases with because they haven't been worked on enough. One of the things, like you figure out the cadence of the person. So a cadence with like Robert Downey Jr. Sounds like he's going to burp halfway through. And that's how you figure it out, right? How many Christopher Walkins have you heard low, high, in the middle?

You know who it is because of the cadence of how they speak. But then you can take voices and mess around with them some. A lot of them start at Kermit the Frog for some reason. I don't know. Because I don't consider Muppets or cartoons to be impressions. Because they're characters people are doing, right? They're not the actual person's voice.

Oh, there's levels to this. So they put on something, right? So they do it, you know, what on something, right? So they do it, you know, what's up doc? You know, so they do something with their voice to create that. So,

but with Kermit the Frog, hi ho Kermit the Frog. And then you put it down to the back of your throat a little bit. It becomes John C. Riley. Touch my drum set. Did you touch my drum set? So that,

that's in there. And then it becomes Mark Ruffalo. If you had some air, I see this as an absolute win. You know that. And then Rogan is, wow, Jamie, pull that up. Oh, my God. Hey, that's a new one. That's a new one.

Yeah, and it's only a little phrase I can say, but it's those little things that come out of that. I realized that years ago, George W. Bush would just turn into Tara Bradshawe, but just a little bit. And then you make it powerful and it becomes Chris Rock. I don't, and I don't even know how but they're all so similar

that that little bit happens there. yeah, and it's hard because then you get stuck in between them and they go back and forth. I'll do, like,

I'll do a Barack Obama. Like, let me be clear. And then people go, it sounds like John Madden. I'm like, well, that's because you know

I do a John Madden. That happens right in here and then it becomes that. The Madden's the kind of thing. Hey, the all Madden, are you a part of that? Are they going to have you be a part of that? I think they probably had me as far away as possible. No, did he hit you? I think he likes me now. I met his grandkids. He likes me now?

Well, he didn't like me for years because they would always surprise him. Nobody would ever tell Madden I was going to do something, right? So he'd be in the bus. He's like, what am I doing now? I'm a cannibal? Because Kimmel would have me on cooking barbecue. And then we would have Emanuel Lewis popped out of the grill.

And then we ran around to the Benny Hill music. And then television's Webster tackled me. He's like, what am I a cannibal? The first time they ever had me on, Kimmel took a pair of hedge clippers to my eyebrows. And then I guess next week he came in and cleaned up completely. You guys broke his heart. Well, Kimmel wrote the stuff.

I just showed him. But yeah, people have been asking me about that whole Madden thing. And I don't know, but I'm going to milk it for everything I can. Absolutely. For sure. How much time is there with John Madden left? Well, that's what I'm saying. I heard you do Rogan there and a couple others.

You have to probably keep. You have to get some new different things. Yeah, that's why I started doing the Nance and Romo was because they're doing games now. And when you look at those, the people. I started doing the Nansen Romo was because they're doing games now. And when you look at those, the people, the thing about analysts and play-by-play people is that that's what they do for a living is they talk about sports. When you take it out and you put it in everyday life, we talked about this a few years ago now, you said you like uh uh viral videos and then do play-by-play of them and that's why i started doing romo and nance because anytime

something weird would happen like oh jim it looks like this big guy over 500 pounds is gonna dive into the water we're gonna lose the water and here we go oh jim i told you there's gonna be a drought in central europe right now. I loved it. I thought those videos absolutely crushed, too, by the way. And I was excited to see you dive into the internet. I'm pumped to see you get back on the road, too. Yeah, it's good. It's just getting little by little, getting back out there and having some fun.

I'm trying to think. It's so funny. I haven't been in many studios for a while. Yeah, that's another thing. So is the chair. This is the first chair in a studios for a while. Yeah, that's another thing. So is the chair. This is the first chair in a studio in a long time. These are gamer chairs. They might be around.

This is a fantastic chair. I mean, it's a whole gym. This is a really great gym. Jim, I could call a gamer. Tony! Jim, it looks like you just hit the recline button. Joining us now is a man who would love to be sitting in that chair right next to you, but instead he's in an attic in Ohio.

Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup champion, and super celebrity golf tournament at Tahoe guy, alongside Frank Caliendo, A.J. Haas. Hey! A.J., how you doing, Bob? Oh, doing well, Frank. Big fan, man. Love all your well, Frank. Big fan, man. Love all your stuff.

Yeah, me too, man. You know, years ago, I don't know what happened, but AJ, I know you were doing a podcast, even when you were in Green Bay. I'm looking up to the screen. I look like an idiot. Yeah, well, it's tough. We don't have it set up properly for you, actually.

Robert Mathis was there the other day, much more intimidating person. He was the one that made me realize we should probably put a TV here for you to look at. Yeah, that'd be helpful. Yeah, maybe next week. That's on me helpful yeah maybe next week that's on me i do apologize that's on me it's uh but yeah but i remember uh and you know growing up i grew up in wisconsin so obviously no aj hawk oh yeah oh packers fan no you're a cardinals fan i've become a little bit more of a cardinals fan i haven't i haven't

left the packers completely i still get that empty feeling in my stomach when they lose, but I'm closer to the Cardinals. I live on the same street as the practice facility, and I whore that out. Yeah. I could imagine. Frank, it is great to have you here. Me and A.J. are going to buzz through a couple games real quick. I can't wait to get his thoughts.

Chime in as any human at any time. All right. All right, A.J., let's go ahead and run around the horn here. Aaron Rodgers runs a 4-1-40 with nine toes. The Packers beat the Rams. Is Matthew Stafford dead or are the Packers all the way alive coming out of bye week? AJ, your thoughts?

What do you think? The Packers are obviously all the way alive. I don't know what to think of the Rams. Matthew Stafford, they put it together a little bit at times and showed that they still had some fight, but I don't know. Either way, you've got to feel pretty good if you're Green Bay right now. Yeah, I would assume you have to feel fantastic. The defense was opportunistic.

Matthew Stafford, what is – we go to add Evan Foxey. He watched Matthew Stafford for 15 years as a Detroit. Is he dead? Have you ever seen this out of him? I've been trying to think of everything in the book to defend Matthew on this one. Yesterday was all his fault. I mean, did come out, he has a bad elbow, bad back, bad neck, bad everything. But, yeah, I mean, this one's tough.

Yeah, I could go mad, and this just will go old school. I mean, you look at a guy who, you know, you think he's all together. He's not all together. That's the same as their team. They keep getting new guys. They don't know how to play together. That's right odell beckham jr might be able to tie in in a beautiful fashion but we shall see speaking of not being able to play well together the browns look terrible i mean that was one of the most disgusting football games i've ever watched not because it was low scoring or

whatever i love good old school football but they were talking balls slipping out of hands, fumbles on every kick. It was just, it was a disgusting game between the Ravens and Browns. It's hot in the AFC North kitchen and it's going to continue to be very hot in the Baker Mayfield conversation for the future. Congrats

to Lamar and Justin Tucker and the Ravens on getting a win. Good job. Good job. And on the flip side, Baker Mayfield is in trouble, I think. He is so hurt. He's got a toe, an ankle, a knee, a shoulder, a humerus, a labrum, and also a lot of drama going on.

So you think his brain is probably in a little bit of a situation. He is in a pickle. Kareem Hunt Sr. He had OBS last time. Now is in a pickle. Kareem Hunt Sr. He OBS'd last time. Now KHS this time. Coming out and saying, I'm allowed to talk about what I'm allowed to talk about.

Now I'm getting people on my Facebook saying I'm being like OBJ Daddy and I'm not. I'm stating facts on football and what we see. He's limping. He's scared to throw the ball

and they know he's hurt. They're going to keep listening but if people don't like what I'm saying, unfriend me. I'm not jeopardizing nothing. I got a right to speak. I ain't posting no videos.

Have a good day. Go Browns, hopefully, says Kareem Hunt Sr. It is burning down in Cleveland, A.J. Hawk. And it all centers around Baker, doesn't it? Isn't Baker in the center of all of these situations? What are they going to do? What do you do if you're the GM? Do you figure it out?

OBS was not happy. KHS ain't happy. What does Lou Holtz think? I guess that's it. Was that for me or was it somebody else in the room who was going to say no? No, that was you. That's A.J. Hawk handing it off. I didn't know it was my turn because I can't say him through the spit.

You know, let me just say this. During COVID times, Lou Holtz is probably the worst person to have in the room. It was just one of those things. You look at what's going on right now in Cleveland. Just saying that they're playing. They thought they were going in there at the highest level. And they got a guy who's carrying the attack. And they got the males there, and they could tackle, and they got Davey Uncloudly,

and they got everybody coming from all angles. But here's the truth. It doesn't seem like they can put it all together. Baker Mayfield, Baker Mayfield, if you're looking with this, how come I'm becoming Harry Caray? Harry, I heard it happen. You saw that thing go, hey! Where is that coach?

Then you looked at him, but that's what's happening. We're stitching together impressions the way that Baker Mayfield's being stitched together. It's just these Frankenstein monsters. That's right, Harry Caray. You know how Coach Holtz? Harry Holtz! Harry Holtz! Harry Holtz! He does look beat up, to your point, Coach and Harry.

Conklin, too, coming off the field last night. How'd they let him walk? How'd they let Jack Conklin walk all by himself? He's a tough son of a bitch, obviously, at a Michigan State. Go green. Go white. Racist. But anyways, that's their chant. That's not for us to talk about right now. That's what Michigan State. Go green. Go white. Racist. But anyways, that's their chant.

That's not for us to talk about right now. That's what Michigan State says, not us. Them letting him walk, that's going to be talked about, especially with the NFLPA president on the team at center there. His knee, that son of a bitch turned sideways. They're saying maybe patellar tear, ACL, whatever the case. I don't know how they had him upright, AJ. That looked bad.

Oh, it was nasty. But what's know how they had him upright, AJ. That looked bad. Oh, it was nasty. But it has, what's his name, Dr. David on Twitter. He always usually talks about when guys get injured and tries to at least speculate on what it may be. Is that a situation where he absolutely needs carted off? Like, I haven't seen that happen before, I don't think. You might have seen it, like, way back in the 70s or 80s, I guess. But in 2021, for a guy who's as big as he is,

went down, they probably talked about what he was feeling with the modern advancements in information in the medical field. There had to be somebody there that was like, yeah, you can't walk off. Yeah. I'm fucking walking off. You know, he's Spartan.

He might've said, I'm walking off or whatever. But somebody has to tell him, if you start to walk off, your leg might turn sideways. And he was, no, no, no way that won't happen. And then boom, three steps. That thing was disgusting.

I don't know how he stayed up. I don't know how he stayed up. That was more impressive that he stayed up and he recovered from that one. But Pat, aren't you wondering what maybe like Bill Cosby may think of this? What a terrible segue. I was thinking maybe Dr. Phil.

What were you thinking? You got to get real and get these guys fixed. You can't let them just sit there. You have to take care of your guys. Bill Cosby. Well, I was going to say, how about Jared Fogle? Yeah, you got any of those guys? Oh, okay.

They just really. That's a real dude. That's a good question. To your point, they've been bringing the card out for everybody and their mother. Dalvin Cook got a card, and he dislocated his shoulder. It's like, if he's got a knee, bring the card out. He was hanging his legs off the card sideways. Dalvin Cook, they're like, you actually have to make it look like you need it.

You actually have to turn anything. He has a shoulder. It has come out. Torn labrum for Dalvin Cook on his shoulder. It is not season ending, they don't believe. And Debo Samuel got an MRI on his groin. It is not season ending as well. And in a sport that doesn't matter, a guy named Scherzer just got $130 million from the Mets.

Yeah, three years. Good for him. Three just got $130 million from the Mets. Yeah, three years. Three years. Good for him. Three years, $130 million from the Mets. Bad match. He's a pitcher. Oh, yeah. Very good.

Somebody cares about it. Hey, a lot. Somebody cares a lot. I think it's that Mets owner that he came in and really ruffled some feathers, right? Big time. There's a lot going on inside that building that came out later. What? A lot of, you know, terrible things.

A lot of new owners are going to clean it up. Well, he did. A lot of scumbags working in there that got fired, and now it's kind of the new regime. But he's also been recently bitching at guys' agents because they're asking for too much money, and then he turns around and just gives the guy $130 million over three years. Kind of loses all ground to sand.

Yeah, exactly. How does baseball have that much money okay thank you for asking a question we i assume since you've been around the game longer you've been in the sports field longer than i have knowing people that i don't how do they make any money i guess it's the hats it has to be the fucking hats i don't know it's the number of games because the baseball's also very local or regional right right? So it's not a huge national. So those local deals, I think, are a big deal. Because remember during the COVID, they wanted to build a dome in Arizona and a dome in Florida.

And then it came out, nope, can't happen because all the money comes from the local media deals, the local radio, local TV. So you couldn't do the dome thing. That's why everybody had to travel. But how much money are local media companies given these teams how do they have all the Frank you you were asking a question that I've said for a long I'm not a baseball fan at all how the fuck do they have all this money I wonder well it's a big part of it and I don't know how like how it gets I love

that they do by the way I love that they do don't you think that like New York and LA like those are massive deals like the Yankees have their own do. Don't you think that New York and L.A., those are massive deals? The Yankees have their own network. The Mets are on their own network. So they get a huge deal in those two massive markets. They subsidize everybody else, right? Exactly. And then they're just basically, everyone else is skimming off that.

Sox have their own. And they have a pretty decent international audience, don't they? Like when they did that game with Otani. It has to be the Hats. Hats are probably a huge part of it. It has to be the hats. It has to be the hats. And Pittsburgh's right up there. He's selling like a billion dollars in hats every year. I mean, those peas, dude.

Cincinnati C. Who brought up attendance? So I just looked it up. The lowest attendance in the league is 10,000. The highest is 35,000. Who's the 10,000? Pittsburgh. Times 82 games, it's 820,000. Who's the $10,000? Tampa, I believe. Pittsburgh. Yeah. Times 82 games, it's $820,000 in attendance for the season. That's the very lowest.

What's the average ticket price probably? $50 for that? I bet your bleachers are even lower. Because I don't think they're that expensive, right? You're just saying average, but it seems like a football game is much more expensive. The football is just great. The NFL has to look down at the MLB and just be like what a joke i was in that building this

weekend i was in the stadium this weekend just kind of i gotta i was i so i missed the sprinter van to get into the building okay so connor had to drop me off thank you connor thank you connor and there was no easy way to get into the building at the time that I arrived than just going in, you know, basically through the crowd there. So it was cool. It was fun. It was great to see that whole thing. But walk around the stadium to get to the point. I got to experience the stadium, I think, as like a fan.

And I talked to DeQual Jackson about this. I saw him yesterday. He did the same thing. I was looking at the prices of stuff. Are you kidding me? I mean, they are raking in money over their food. Just every program is this. Or remember this.

The shop is this. The tickets are this. This. I mean, it is. The NFL is just generating cash on top of itself, let alone every single piece is sponsored. I mean, every single part of it is sponsored. There's so much money there.

We used to do jokes about that i remember i was at a sketch show on the wb at the time and we were doing mad and summer all and it was like this this kickoff brought to you by tostitos and then that you know you've got a bunch of chips and then boom we got a show dip too that's brought to you by the kickoff return you know so like it became real though after a while where everything is just every who started that nascar you think i think nascar started it feels like nascar was one of the first it was like everything can be sold ah the nfl probably i'll bet you fox is in there fox because they innovated a lot of this a lot of the stuff when i first started over there at Fox,

I remember them talking about how they put too much information on the TV. Everybody was upset about that. People were like, there's just too much info on the TV. It's messing with the screen. You're losing the game. And now, I couldn't imagine living without it. And you're sitting there on your phone at the same time, checking other games' stats. I mean, it's crazy.

And I think the people that had those ideas have the similar ideas still in 2021, and it's a completely different world now. I went to a Colts game, and there was no stats anywhere. There's no stats listed anywhere. I'm like, holy, I need to know how many yards that guy has. I don't play fantasy, but I need to know how many yards. You mean there was no screens?

Like, there's usually the screens, at least in the corners, will run through all the main stats. no they have these little it's a beautiful stadium lucas oil stadium is yeah yeah gorgeous but they need to update a couple they need to do whatever the fuck they want i think they were charging 75 a beer i mean no i'm joking they can do whatever they want i don't need to tell anybody how to do anything but there was some things i was looking at i was like wow they really are taking advantage of everything except for you know there seems to be some good stuff let's talk about that game that i was at yesterday robert mathis goes into the ring of honor at halftime the crew that was there to celebrate him was awesome it was the original group uh crew

plus a little mix with the new regime i got a chance to be a part of them i was young enough in the old regime and then i obviously through the uh chuck pagano era so it was it was a nice collaboration of men who are just legends i mean edgar and james is there dwight freeney was there robert mathis went in obviously reggie wayne gary bracket you just go through daquale jackson antoine bethea the list was Pierre Garçon was out there I mean it was Chuck Pagano Jim Caldwell Jim coach two coaches were there Justin Snow and Vinatieri I mean it was it was a cool group of dudes and I was very excited to see him Gerard Powers was a guy got drafted in the same draft class as the Indianapolis he came out of Auburn uh he and

our friends literally like day one. He's the one that forced me to get on Twitter way back in the day. It was awesome getting to see everybody and celebrate Robert and have a couple drinks and tell some stories, and then all of a sudden we fucking lose. What happened? What happened? There was no way we're supposed to lose with that crew in the building.

I agree with you. I would feel like the guys would be scared that Robert was there and Robert would be upset if they didn't win on his big day. And I think he would be okay with that. But yeah, I don't know. I'm sure you guys have talked about it. You want to run the ball a few more times? Yeah, just run the fucking ball.

And Carson came out and, or not Carson, Frank came out and said there was a lot of RPO and Vita Vea playing does change. 25 straight, right? 25 straight passes? Yeah, well, he had 44 fucking attempts, and we got the MVP in the backfield. But Vida Veya playing does change some things, and I don't know if we knew if he was going to play,

but to be honest, who cares? With the offensive line and Jonathan Taylor, if he was to be treated like Derrick Henry was treated when he was a running back, eventually Jonathan Taylor is going to go. Now, he did start two in the second half, but there was long portions of that game yesterday where I was not seeing Jonathan Taylor highlights. I was not hearing the crowd cheer for Jonathan Taylor.

But what I did see was a punt from Carson Wentz for an interception down the field. Some other just a bullshit pass interference call that basically gave the Buccaneers a touchdown when they needed it. But, man, there's a lot of things that could have went differently in that game. And to say that I paid attention every minute would be a lie. There was a lot of, oh, hey, hey, hey, and then turn around. I didn't see all of it. But I watched the 45-minute version.

I did not see anywhere near enough Jonathan Taylor. And I think that is kind of what everybody's saying. But Carson and Frank say there's reasons for that because Tampa's defense was just stonewalling them or whatever. It's raining champs, but goddamn, get a win. And get a tackle. You're saying they need more designed runs because if they're doing all these RPOs,

Tampa can absolutely say, all right, we're not going to let Jonathan beat us. So we're going to make sure we have somebody on the dive, on the back, no matter where it is, and force Carson to beat you. And he almost did it. So I don't know. They didn't want to get beat. They didn't want to see Jonathan Taylor running for almost 304 touchdowns. AJ, there's obviously a way to disguise, you know, corners disguise,

but you can disguise a box to look heavy when it's not, right? So that a quarterback, if he's checking pass or run, and you want him to check pass because he's Carson Wentz and the run option is Jonathan Taylor, there's so many ways to make it look like you should not run pre-snap, right? Yeah, definitely. But as that play clock starts winding down, you have to get to your final look, though.

I don't want to blame Carson. You know, he's probably making the right decision for the look that he was but i think the answer you just gave in the middle of there is there should have been designed runs like hey yes we are feeding like we're not reading this like like aaron's touchdown did not look like he was reading anything he was pulling that all day long and how about that how about that pump fake by the way for a killer you don't know that like if you're j you're Jalen Ramsey, you're not 100% sure nobody's behind you. He is not, and you have to move. And then as soon as you move, Aaron, with nine toes, immunized, he's like, I fucking got him.

Hits a little thing in there, does a touchdown, does his dance. It was awesome. But hand the ball to Jonathan Taylor. We lose when we don't give him the ball. We win when we give him the ball. We were up 10 at one point, I saw. I saw. I saw. We were up 10. I was there saw like everybody i saw we were up i saw i noticed i took a second we're up this is awesome dude there was i watched

some drives with like chuck pagano right next to him listening to what he would talk about five turnovers though right didn't they have five turns yeah carson threw a punt i mean it was the guy was clearly not open clearly almost the fact that you were in the game and you had five turnovers against the reigning champs and tom brady like that says a lot about your team right there i i agree and i'm not out on the colts at all but i am out on the decision not to give that motherfucking train a ball let's just give that guy the ball we have an identity now this is awesome let's continue the identity thing and like look what the packers did with aj dillon when they were up and it was late in the game they're just like

all right we'll hand the ball to aj let's see what happens and there shouldn't be run i get the rpo and now it opens stuff up if you have jonathan taylor put a fucking fullback in the game and run it behind quentin nelson and don't make it an option just run the damn ball have quitty pay line up at fullback. Yes. And just go. DeForest Buckner. Do whatever you got to do and let him go. What do you think Peyton Manning thinks about what's going on with the Colts? You want me to go with Peyton Manning? You think I got

a Peyton Manning? Do you not? No, not I started working on it. All I got is the I'm working on it from the word weird. That's these guys that work weird. Eli, that's kind of weird. That's all I can do. Eli, what's with that sweater? It's kind of weird. I all I can do Eli what's with that sweater it's kind of weird starting to get there

I was going to go Bruce Arians daddy that's what we're talking about daddy come on take a look that's what we did with Leonard Fortnette that motherfucker

can run take a look we just give it to that guy let him sprint around we got Tommy I let Tommy and Byron run our offense

just do whatever the hell they want just do their things I'm on the side I got my crown royal I'm going to say Jack Daniels that was do whatever the hell they want. You know, we just do our thing. I'm on the side. I got my crown royal. I almost said Jack Daniels. That was almost like you just said hello to people in the stands, daddy. Win or lose, we booze.

Nickelodeon slime, we try to rhyme. Come on, daddy. That's just how we finish everything up. Okay. Coach Bruce Arians, thank you for joining us today. I have some more follow-ups to what happened yesterday. Well, you know, I was talking about Vita Vague. I forget, lost a tooth.

Vita lost a tooth. He got 31 more, that son of a bitch. That's what he did. He got out there. He got the helmet. Knocked his teeth out. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit about what's going on with his teeth there.

We got there and played a game. We tried to do it. We go for the win. We make it happen. That's what I said. Okay, Coach, follow up. It's that Lou Holtz show. No, that's not Lou Holtz.

No, we're still Brucerians. Still Brucerians. At the end of the game, Coach. At the end of the game, Coach. Yeah, what happened? Leonard Fournette. I glanced up at the score. We were up by 10 at one point.

No, yeah. Well, we were. We were. You were up by 10. I used to coach you. I forgot about up at the score. We were up by 10 at one point. No, yeah. Well, we were. We were. You were up by 10. I used to coach you. I forgot about that. Yeah, you guys were down by 10. Leonard Fournette, 22 seconds left in the game,

just runs in for his fourth touchdown. Instead of going down the smart, high football IQ move, just take the game-winning field goal. The super boost hits. There's no chance of the big, long return from Rodgers. And then Carson Wentz getting crazy with the ball, Coach. Are you going to coach him up on that? No, I tell him, do whatever the hell you want.

Get out there. He gave 150%. Almost gave 150% back to the other guys. But I tell you what, I'm fine with that. Make it happen. You know what? Any other coach would tell you, that's what you got to do. Not me.

I said, you know what? You see on Wednesday. You know Bruce pretty well, I assume? A little bit. A little bit. I do that with him. I did a thing for his charity after they won the Super Bowl. It was a Zoom thing, and I had a giant Crown Royal glass,

and he had a bigger one. I was like, this is a cartoon version of a glass. Here we go. I got the mug. I stopped over at 7-Eleven on the way. Fill this thing up, Denny. I love that, man. I'm happy they're having success.

I wish they would have only won by three yesterday. Kick the field. As I was watching that thing go, I'm like, oh. Here we go, boys. We fucking did it. We did it. We did it. Perfect. And then he, I mean watching that thing go, I'm like, oh. Here we go, boys. We fucking did it. We did it. We did it. Perfect.

And then he, I mean, that pull. I think it was guard attack. I don't know who pulled. Somebody pulled, and it was just wide open. I'm like, how is this wide open? You know they're running, right? You know they are running the ball. There's 30 seconds left in the game.

They're in field goal position. How is this this wide open, especially with how good our defense is, AJ? How does that happen, do you think? our defense is, AJ? How's that happen? That defense is so good. They are, but he also broke a tackle right there. You saw him get kind of tripped up and stay on his feet and then find a way to fall forward into the end zone. Yeah, that's, I mean, when you're trying to stop

the run, you have a lot of people closer to the line of scrimmage. Hey, you break that first, second wall, see ya, you're gone. He's a guy, huh, Leonard Fernau? Yeah. Hey, does Frank know that Sirianni is in studio too? I don't know because we can't get to it. The Eagles are dead, dude. Yeah.

The Eagles stink all of a sudden. And we could have never guessed that the Eagles would stink, especially because we were going on a run that the Eagles were getting good at football. Whenever you think about the Eagles and how your team is performing, Coach Sirianni, what are your thoughts on yesterday's game and how do you continue to be that flower that grows as opposed to the one that sits in the manure? I mean, for one, you know, Jalen doesn't throw four fucking interceptions. We probably win that game. I mean, he's a great running back, but is he that good fucking quarterback? I don't know. Devontae Smith came up to me on the last drive of the game. He

said, hey, I want the football right now. And I love that dog mentality, but, you know, it's my fucking football team. So we didn't target him on the last drive. Kind of teach him a lesson, a little bit of humility going forward. We needed to win that game. And now there's a good chance that we might be fucked because we got beat by the Giants who absolutely stink. Yeah, Giants stink. But Strahan was in there getting his number retired.

Did you say that to the boys? Did you say anything to the boys about, like, maybe Jay Glazer was there? Michael Strahan was there? I mean, there was an entire group of New York Giants legends there. Was that a taller task, you think? And were the boys not ready for it? Well, a little bit. You know, some of the guys did get starstruck.

You see Jay Glazer walking around. It's like, holy shit, you know, it's kind of a big deal. You guys got to understand. You guys got to understand. When I'm standing around, you guys got to understand, I teach you it's kind of a big deal. You guys got to understand. When I'm standing around, I'm teaching you guys a lot of different things. You got to work on all sorts of, you know,

AJ knows this, because I was talking to some of the guys, listen, I'm good friends with all these guys. I actually work out on my way to work out. Do you guys know that? Do you guys know I do a workout on the way to work out? So is that what Jay told your team, coach?

Yeah, and maybe a couple more guys were thinking about going and training with MMA after the season. I got my own gym. I work out with The Rock. Demi Lovato

punched my tooth out just like Peter Vail. That just happened to me and Demi Lovato. There's got to be somebody back there. I mean, so you try to coach a football team

when you've got big players who are gassing up all the boys before a game and weren't even listening to what I was saying. It was bullshit. The Eagles lost to the Giants. I don't know how the hell that happened. It was an ugly, ugly ball game.

I didn't get to see any of it other than the highlights when they did the drop-ins. There was nothing really out of that. And then you watch the condensed version. It looks like there's some quarterbacks that might be dead, huh? Yeah, end of the first half, they were right there on the goal line, and he made, like, similar to Herbert. I mean, I guess it was third and 14 for Herbert,

but just a pretty bad pass, last attempt, and then it was the end of the half, and, you know, that was basically all she wrote. Sigourney doesn't like kicking the field goal really. No, of course not. Three nothing, though. Hey, do analytics tell you what is more, six or three? Typically, six is more than 3.

But, you know, I'm trying to win fucking football games. I feel like if we kick field goals, you know, we're not going to win very many football games. Because I think it's... 6 is more than 3. Yeah, but the thing that never gets talked about is the other side of that. 3 is more than... Zero, which I didn't factor in.

But that's a good point. talked about is the other side of that. Three is more than zero. Which I didn't factor in. But that is a good point. Maybe I'll consider that going forward. I'm going Schefter on this. According to my sources, at this particular time, it appears Nick Sirianni is getting better and better at math. It appears that by the end of this episode

of the Pat McAfee Show, he will possibly be in calculus and ready to become an engineer. No, really? It's true. Hey, you went to Michigan, Adam. Big win this week. Hey, go blue. Go blue.

Jim Harbaugh finally beating in five, I believe, tries, beating the Oklahoma, beating the Ohio State. I got the O's mixed up. Sometimes it happens when you get off a flight early in the morning and then you finally make it into the studio. But that is very true. Michigan skyrocketing to the top, going to be possibly in the college football.

I almost went World Series. A lot of things not going. I'm still stuck on Bruce Arians. No, no, no. We will stick on Schefter. Coming back, sticking into Schefter, staying in character, watching Caliendo trying to stay in one impression for a long time, which is apparently what you guys do a lot more of than what he does.

Because he tends to go from voice to voice when he can't think of what to say next. Well, Schefter, incredible reporting there. We just learned a lot about Frank Caliendo. Also, Cliff Kingsbury possibly going to coach at Oklahoma. Okay. That's a big deal, obviously.

We'll talk about Oklahoma maybe getting Cliff Kingsbury or how about Coach JB? Ooh, one time. Let's talk about Michigan. We have to talk about Oklahoma maybe getting Cliff Kingsbury. Or how about Coach JB? Ooh, one time. Let's talk about Michigan. We have to talk about Michigan because, man, you know, I was watching. And all year, all year, I had been trying my best just to go like, O-H! You know, and it was just left.

Just like that. Falling on deaf ears. And then I did not lose confidence. No, not at all. I did not look in the mirror and say, hey, don't do that again. I chose to saddle the horse of the OH train once again. I went deep into the barn every single day and brought that horse out. And I said, hey, AJ, OH.

I don't know where you're trying to go with this. Are you going to bring it all together at some point? He said I, and then he said don't, and then he said no. Oh, yeah. If you would have answered any one of my last 250 OHs with an IO. Good, so now I'll never be able to do it then. What? You want the Ohio State Buckeyes to lose to Michigan forever?

What happened? You guys were supposed to go. You can't stop the run, man. Like we said, if you can't stop the run, how many times have I told you that? You have to be able to stop the run when you know the other team is going to run the ball. They couldn't do it. You know, and I thought Ohio kids were tough. They played great.

Hey, Michigan's defense is spent. Man, those guys are awesome. I give them a lot of credit. Hey, that's the end, Hutchinson. He is a wad. Both of them. Yeah's defense is spent. Man, those guys are awesome. I give them a lot of credit. That's the end. Hutchinson, he is a lot. Both of them. And 55. No. 58. 55.

You know what I'm talking about. Dogs. Absolute dogs. But Ohio State was supposed to be the team. Ohio State was supposed to be hotter than anybody. Ohio State was supposed to go on and win the national championship. Ohio State's quarterback was supposed to be a Heisman. He still threw for like 300 yards. It wasn't that bad at all.

It was unbelievable. But that defensive line representing the state of Ohio just getting – what happened? Is that what Ohio's about now? Is that what's going on over in Ohio? That can't be what Ohio stands for. Getting trampled from Michigan? No way.

That was a statement from Harbaugh. Harbaugh said, you might have beat us like the last 20, 30 times. But this particular time, we're going to ram it down your throats and we're going to punch you on the way over. In the fourth quarter, when it seems like you're getting back, guess what we're going to do? Hand the ball off. Boom, boom quarter, when it seems like you're getting back, guess what we're going to do? Hand the ball off. Boom, boom, boom.

Beat up Ohio people. What is that? Is that a shot from Harbaugh against all of Ohio, you think? And how do we stop it? First off, stop. Like, how you just phrased this whole situation is just a great microcosm of your whole life. Whoa, what the hell?

Have you ever situation for other, oh, he just buried you. Oh, he just buried me. Okay. He did. Doesn't matter. buried you. Oh, he just buried me. Okay. He did. Doesn't matter. They did. Yes, they got dominated. Ohio State did.

They got blasted. It happens. Boom. I give hardballing them credit. And you know what? Also, it was a big win for Michigan in their whole program. I saw Juwan Howard out there hugging hardball. Ohio State should take that as a sign of respect.

Hey, it's a big deal to beat us. I'm glad you guys are very happy. Congrats to Michigan. Congrats, Michigan. Hey, they're a big deal to beat us. I'm glad you guys are very happy. Congrats to Michigan. Hey, you're running a good program. Don't get beat by Iowa. That's the problem. Ty, your Iowa squad might get them. Right down the street here, Big Ten championship game.

Torrey Taylor and the Iowa Hawkeyes battle against Jim Harbaugh in Michigan Wolverines. Hell yeah. Is this a good matchup or what? Well, see, I mean, Kirk's dogs, we know. They'll play anywhere. They'll play in a dome. They'll play outside.

They'll play in the parking lot at Lucas Oil. I mean, you know, everything's right with the universe. There's no way Iowa's supposed to be in the Big Ten Championship. Absolutely no way. And here they are. Kirk's dogs are ready to go. Hey, tell you what. If the defense can score 28 to 35 points,

Michigan's going to have another thing coming. Their offense stinks. They're not going to put up any. But I'll tell you what, defense and special teams humming. AJ, is all of Ohio depressed today? Is that real? Absolutely. Cohen, yeah, people want – Crying.

Yeah, especially you lose to Michigan and you lose that way. Yeah, people are pretty upset. People want Ryan Day out of there already in Ohio? Actually, for Overreaction Monday, I saw a lot of tweets about get Ryan Day out right now. What was he, 33-3 as a head coach or something like that? They showed his stat while he was walking on the field warm-ups. He looks so cool, by the way.

He had his hat on, had a jag. He looks so cool. You're like, 33-3 as a head coach. I'm like, what a fantasy life yeah what a joke of life and now you guys in ohio are saying no more send his ass to the chop house with the double guns is that what you guys are saying already no i think if anyone thinks that ryan day is ever not going to be at ohio state he's going to go to the nfl like they don't think he's going to go to another college gig oh so you guys are trying to say you'll be great in the nfl i don't think i

don't think people are pushing him out. I mean, maybe some people. I'm sure, of course, there's always someone. But I think people are looking around. People are trying to figure out how do we find somebody to help these guys stop somebody on defense. That's what they're worried about. Oh, is A.J. Hawk? Oh, the coordinator. Oh, shit.

Bring Fickle home. Dude, A.J. Hawk in there? Getting the breaks at the end of practice? Come on, A.J. Hey, Muck Fish again, dude. Do it.J. Hey, Muck Fish again, dude. Do it for Ohio. Hey, Muck Fish again on three. Why Muck Fish again, dude?

They need a little hard nose. They might have lost their rust belt, dude. Seriously. I don't know. They'll be good. They don't need me, that's for sure. They need some rust belt in there. Did they lose when you were in the stands, A.J.?

No, they won that game. Every game, A.J., do you want them to win or not? Do you want in the stands, AJ? No, they won that game. Every game, AJ. Do you want them to win or not? Do you want the city to be depressed? Why don't you take the kids out to a game or two? Come on. I just did a couple weeks ago. What do you mean?

So their season's over now? Yeah. They'll be in some bowl game. They'll go to like the Tax Slayer Gator Bowl or something like that. Which will be huge. Dude. No, they won't. Harbaugh took a shot at it.

What game will they be in? Probably the Orange Bowl or something like that. The Tostitos Fiesta Bowl. It'll be a New Year's Six for sure. Yeah. I mean, either way, that's the tough thing about the college football playoff. Like, every other bowl doesn't matter. Well, that's always been that way, though.

BCS, I guess, was something, but the national championship was the only one that mattered. I won multiple BCS. Nobody cares. Nobody gives a fuck about it. I'm never introduced. This guy has two BCS bowl cares. Nobody gives a fuck about it. I'm never introduced as, this guy has two BCS bowl rings. Nobody gives a fuck. Yeah, it's kind of been like that forever. I mean, that's just, that's why when it goes to eight,

I guess it makes it better because at least eight teams will have a chance to make it to a bowl that does matter. Bowl week is cool. It's extra practice. It's more time. I get it. I understand. I love it that it happens for the teams

but from like a perspective of who gives a fuck they're all pretty much toilet bowls at this point oh yeah

which is a shame it is a shame yeah it's a shame I'm being serious it is not something that is I say with glee

in my heart or like Tanya Romo with a smile on my face you don't mean that that's why they need to get rid of the national championship and go back to only polls and not know who wins. Here we go, Jim.

Tony. By the way, my wife is from Lorain, Ohio. And everybody, they were in Olmstead Falls. I was getting video of people in basements watching the Ohio State game. Very, very sad yes incredible sadness it's real yeah yeah yeah oh yeah and then the michigan friends they're all going crazy like we do this every year yeah don't yeah but i could imagine how awesome man arbor had to be that oh

yeah man snow i mean the whole atmosphere for the game seemed perfect, didn't it? Burning catches. Electrifying. There was some fighting going on. I've been in Ann Arbor there for one night and one night only. They probably shut it down that night on Saturday. Oh, yeah. That one street you guys usually talk about where basically everyone lives? I'm sure that was like a block party.

There's kids with Bentleys and shit. You know that? Did you know this about Ann Ar antarctica no i've only been to the stadium i've never been anywhere on campus so we got to see a little bit of campus and stuff because we went up there for the barstool tailgate show we went up there and that's where dave obviously went to school so we got a i mean i feel like we got a really good experience up there it was it was unbelievable but i was driving through campus with foxy and it was like holy shit is this is this on is this on campus yeah this mega mansion with like bentley parked out front then you go right next door another mansion like landscaping duties like the the shrubbery was fucking nice and with benzos out front whose houses are these houses are these? I guess this is where a lot of billionaires' kids go. If you can't get into Ivy League, even though they don't want to do the polo method that we learned about from the thing.

I guess there's a lot of very, very, very successful people that send their kids to Ann Arbor. It was un-fucking-believable as we drove through there. And this is why Michigan State people and a lot of people hate them so much because truthfully, they're all rich, arrogant nerds. Whoa! Sure! That's a broad brush. That's a broad brush. I'm giving you the details here.

That's a broad brush there. It was awesome. I literally, that was the first time I've been to a campus where I've been like, this is where I'm, if I could say,

I understand why people are like i'm a michigan person like i understand why you guys are so arrogant about where you're this is very nice so fucking nice and then their facilities they just built a 500 million dollar facility like within the last year made no money by the way made no money obviously but they just built a 500 million dollar facility it is i'm surprised and i think taylor the one said this when he came on the show there's no reason for it not to be a school like the money the facilities the history the conference everything's there hey maybe this is the run maybe ohio never wins again oh no oh shit dude oh shit i don't think they're too worried hey let's Hey, let's change the mojo right now. Ready? O-H.

No, no chance with you. You're fucked. Yeah, dude. Not with your sarcastic garbage you're throwing out there. Bro, Harbaugh's going to have a chop house in Ann Arbor, and it's going to say 10-5. It is going to go the complete opposite direction, however many losses.

That's what the merch is going to say. If you don't answer these IOs more, you know theio universe is fucking furious with you every time you do it your basketball team lost before i always give it right but any caller we have that gives me the oh i always give it back to him you know that no it's not i don't care what is that it has nothing to do with what we are talking about right now we're talking about mine they're genuine they're all when they're authentic and they're genuine and they don't say it like you do. Dude. What do you mean? What are you talking about? Hey, can you say it as me?

I know Diggs is a graduate from Michigan. Took an online course there. Diggs is up there one weekend. I do remember I do remember the weekend that Diggs went up there, by the way. I've seen those pictures before. When I saw them resurface, I was pumped.

I was so pumped. You guys had a great weekend. Oh, campus is awesome. Ohio State stinks. Yeah. There it is. All right. Well, Maurice Claret did the same thing.

That was awesome. Maurice Claret was like, OH, I don't know. I'm going down to Cincinnati. How's it going down here? It's crazy in a college football world. I hope Cincinnati doesn't just get kicked out of the playoff like it sure feels like it's going to happen. No, can't do it. Sure feels like they're going to do that.

One of these bigger schools that is now very close, very, very close. It's funny how they always, you know. Wiggle in. They get their little Bentleys and wiggle. They're like, hey, remember our fan base is like 200,000 strong. They travel every single day. What's going to happen to the city? Boom, this is what's going to happen.

Well, if Auburn would have just went for two, we wouldn't have had to worry about this. Hey, how about Nick Saban? Hey, dancing. Dancing, having a good time. How many OTs? Five? Four.

Four. You ever been in a deep OT game in college? Against Phil Rivers, NC State, I think we beat them in three overtimes my sophomore year. I think we went to three overtimes against Louisville, I think. That's when three overtimes was three overtimes. I was going to say, yeah, you guys went to the 25 every time, right? Yeah, and you had to go for two after you scored as opposed to just going to the two-point conversion. Right. Yeah, because my day was over after second overtime. after you scored as opposed to just going to the two-point conversion.

Yeah, because my day was over after second overtime. I think we hit third overtime a couple different times because after the second one, it was like, all right, I literally can't do anything. So I'm just going to untie these things. Good luck, boys. Hey, good luck out there, boys. Let's go ahead and do this thing. I don't love the 25 either, by the way.

People love the 25 overtime start. I don't necessarily. Yeah, I don't really either. I don't love the 25 either, by the way. People love the 25 overtime start. I don't necessarily. Yeah, I don't really either. I don't love that either. What do you think? Like dogfight from the 10? I think you just fucking play. And then if you can't win, kickoff.

Yes. Like a penalty kick. I honestly believe that. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's always going to evolve and change, I feel like. The college overtime they've messed with overtime. It is Mickey Mouse. I stumbled on that game. That was awesome. Like I watched the fourth quarter in the overtime. I and change, I feel like. The college overtime they've messed with overtime. It is making a mess. I stumbled on that game.

That was awesome. I watched the fourth quarter and the overtime. I was like, okay, this turned out to be one of the best games there is. Yeah, it generated a conversation about overtimes. Literally, that is what almost took over. Saban's dancing. People are going after Saban for dancing. It's like –

Why? What do you mean? He just gave a speech about enjoying every win, and then he's dancing. People are going after Saban for dancing. It's like. Why? What do you mean? He just gave a speech about enjoying every win, and then he's dancing. People are like, is this a national championship, dude? It's like, no. Well, what's he supposed to be, not happy, man? I hate people. I hate people that get upset about that type of stuff, like honestly.

Because it wasn't a national championship. You can't be happy. You just won a four-over time game in an in-state rivalry game in which there's probably some recruits that legitimately oh yeah you know might not do that whole thing and saban knows i just probably a huge bonus i don't know that was auburn's national championship that i mean they have five losses that's all they were really playing for and saban won it yeah so sorry to interrupt but i want to let you know that if you're not gambling with FanDuel, you're wrong. Okay? FanDuel Sportsbook is available in seven states, I believe, at this point. Six, seven, eight. You get it.

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Also there's fantasy on there, daily fantasy and free to play games where you can win money. Shout to FanDuel. Shout-out to you. Let's get back to the show. Gentlemen, host of the Man to Man podcast, Darius Butler. What's up, fellas? This is on me.

I apologize. Long weekend. Long weekend. Why didn't you come up here for Mathis' thing? I got too much going on at the house right now, man. Kid got sick. Couldn't make the trip, man. I hate that I missed him. I saw a lot of the OGs got in the building. Big. Couldn't make the trip, man. I hate that I missed him.

I saw a lot of the OGs got in the building. Big shout out to the Sam, man. I was happy to see it. Okay, well, we've mentioned a lot of conversation about you there. Antoine Bethea looked hilarious. I mean, he was awesome. He had this winner's circle jacket on. He is the absolute best.

He hosts the Man to Man pod alongside Darius Butler. Okay, let's talk about that day that was yesterday, D-Butt. What are your thoughts? What stuck out to you? Is it Aaron Rodgers and the Rams? Are the Rams dead? Is it the Colts having a 10-point lead, losing Jonathan Taylor, and then losing to Tampa Bay in brutal fashion and the Superboost missing?

What is it you think? Matt, it's coming to the realization that the Patriots are going to be hosting the AFC Championship again, man. I mean, it's disappointing. I think them and the Chiefs, they'll be right back in it after all that shit that the season started with. They'll be right back in in the end. That's my biggest takeaway from yesterday.

Did you know this was coming like Conor seemed to have known? The last six games, they've been very dominant. And Bill Belichick's big thing is once you hit Thanksgiving, you have to be playing your best football. They are. They are. They are drumming. Everything is perfect for them. And Mac Jones seems to be getting better.

Points per game, 35.2. Points per game allowed, 10.5. Turnovers, four. Takeaways, 17. 6-0. Everything is back to the Patriots football, playing Patriots football somehow. No, I definitely didn't see this coming.

I saw the defense side of the ball. I saw things start to pick up on that side, especially after they played the Chargers. But I didn't see Mac Jones continue to progress like this and continue to run his offense like a damn eight-, ten-year vet. I mean, it's an impressive job by McDaniels, obviously. But Mac Jones came in. He's pretty much, you know much everything they said he was.

And I will say, Connor, he didn't doubt it for a second from the jump. So I know he's happy right now. D-Bot, what about the Dolphins and Tua? Is Tua going to be their guy? I don't know. I feel good about him. I feel

as good as I felt about him. And he's one of those guys I go back and forth about. But the longer he's in there, he got that connection. Go Waddle, who's going to be a special player going down the line. But I wouldn't say I'm on the kiddie table right now for him. Not on the big boy table. I like what I'm seeing out of one. Okay.

Then is Cam dead then? What happened there? Cam shot me, man. He shot me. He stunk it up. But that defense, that Dolphins defense, they can make anybody look bad. But they came out. That pick that X Howard had right after Holland, that was impressive.

But Cam, he looked like he took a step back. That first week he came out hot. Second week he looked like he had control of the offense, played well enough to win. The football team ran it down the defense's throat. But to firmly take that step back against miami i was honestly shocked a little adversity now for cam in the carolina panthers how will they handle it will they grow will they get better in an nfc that is going to be a little top heavy how you you said afc you like the patriots you like the chiefs how about the NFC? Do you have the Green Bay Packers sitting there playing against who?

I like the Packers. I mean, the Cardinals are a damn good team on both sides. Hey, they might not have a coach. That's right. Uh-oh. They might go to Oklahoma, man. I highly, highly doubt he leaves AZ. One of the best.

I mean, come on, man. To go to Oklahoma and then get in the SEC and start getting your head beat in week in and week out. Nah, he's smarter than that. He'll stay in AZ. But the job that he's done this year has been tremendous. Obviously still keeping that record without Kyler in there. He'll come back.

You saw the Thanos picture that I saw on your timeline last night. So I think everything's falling into place for AZ to be in there. What did that mean? Can't count the bucks out, though. What did that mean? You can't count the bucks out, though. What did that mean? You can't count the bucks out either. Okay, yeah, we'll talk about that. And I can't believe Leonard Fournette didn't just fall down

and be a smart football player. Damn it. I understand you don't get four touchdowns on fucking just random Sundays and you want four, but how about some sound football? Don't let Carson Wentz get this thing back. You're going to do the... The Buccaneers are...

Hey, Vita Vea changes their entire defense whenever he's flying around in there. He is a massive individual. Gronk got back caught. A.B., where's he? When he comes – I mean, they could be a wagon again. How'd the defense play, you think, against Carson and the boys? A lot of turnovers. Yeah, too many turnovers.

Defense got after. Even after he lost Devin White, that pick that Winfield had at the end, though, I mean, for him to climb that ladder, being a guy that's probably 5'9", 5'10", like that was a super impressive play. But the fumbles, that really set us back. Couldn't get the run game going. They tried to, and he got going late.

But Vitavea, Goldstein, Sue, those were some grown-ass men in the middle of that defense. So it was tough to get going. Bruce Arians is loving it. I bet they were having a time of their life. Hour three here on SiriusXM will be wrapping up in 20 seconds. Chris Maddog Russo

with Maddog Unleashed will be on the other side of this six-minute break. AJ, anything to say to the listeners on Sirius before this six-minute little hangout sesh thing? No, Mad Dog will have a great Monday. I'm sure he will. I'm sure of it, too, man.

From all of us to all of you, cheers, dude. We nailed it. We nailed it. Well done. We're the worst radio hosts of all times. We missed a break earlier. We powered right through a hard-on conversation. You hit one, though, earlier.

I saw that look. No, you did. You literally rolled it in. I looked over and I saw it go, and I didn't know what I was counting down to, but I saw you going, Nailed it. Giving me a look like you did.

Right at 202. Yeah, you crushed it for us, which we appreciate. D-Butt. D-Butt. Mac Jones is unbelievable, dude. Hell yeah. Did you watch him? Have you watched the film?

Have you dove into that thing? And is it, you remember when you told us about Sam Darnold stinking? You said, I watched the film, and in the first quarter, the defense showed him something, and he made a mistake. Then they showed him the same look in the third quarter and the fourth quarter, and he made the same exact mistake. That is what, that's what separates the quarterbacks in the third quarter and the fourth quarter and he made the same exact mistake that is what that's what separates the quarterbacks in the nfl from the quarterbacks that won't be

in the nfl is that the recall and the the digestion of what you're seeing mac is doing all that already isn't he is it am i wrong in thinking that it feels like he is doing that already he's doing it already he gets full you know once maybe twice a game and that's that's what the best ones do but he's adjusting like you said and the complete opposite of sam donald and like i said that's on coaching and players i'm sure mcdaniel's in his ear and they get on the sideline hey this is the look they're showing we're going to come back to it and you hit this guy like that sam donald example it was the same guy open for a touchdown three third downs in a row same down the distance.

He missed it all three times. That'll never happen with this offense with Matt leading it. That photogenic memory or photographic memory they said he had, you can definitely see it on Sundays. Hey, what about the Rams, Matt Stafford? What is their – like what are they going to be? And his OBJ, I know his back's a little banged up. Are they going to be able to work him in more, make it feel more natural?

I know his back's a little banged up. Are they going to be able to work him in more, make it feel more natural? You know, losing Robert Woods was huge for that team. Odell, he's a different type of receiver, different weapon, an explosive weapon, obviously. But losing Woods for the run game in the past, I think, really hurt them. And Stafford's hurt, and people say he's hurt, but, you know, everybody's kind of hurt right now. He's kind of regressing at this point in the season.

I said it a few weeks ago that that was the team in the NFC that I was concerned about. I had the most concern about you putting those pieces in there and thinking. Stafford was in Detroit a long time, a long time. I know it was a bad organization and all that, but if you do not have any playoff success for that long, I mean, that doesn't just happen. Come on, man. Come on, now. Baker got the damn Browns to the playoffs.

Whoa. Whoa. What's up, Foxy? My bad, Foxy. Sorry. Baker's dead, though. Yeah. That feels like that's going to be tough.

He's so injured. He is so. He's got a toe, an ankle, a knee, a labrum, a humerus, and a brain, and a head thing. And a brain. Hey, we don't give a fuck. Oh, dude, but he's hurt. Everybody's hurt, man.

Stafford's hurt. A-Rod's out there with nine toes. You know, who knows what – Tom Tom Brady He waited to have surgery last year To have Like everybody's hurt Well how did A.J. Hawk feel In week 13 Yeah

Like I I mean As soon as he makes a good throw People make all the praise And then when he makes a bad throw Ah he's dealing with this and that I mean it's It's week 13

In the football season man Deal with it Yeah Lamar's got mud butt Remember Yeah He does Yeah Come on.

How do your defense get four turnovers and you can't win the game? That's tough. That is. That's tough. I mean, that game was tough. That game was bad. How about Lamar not scoring a touchdown? I mean, how?

Hey, Lamar, what are we doing? We're off for two weeks. We're off for two weeks. I thought we were about to have the Lamar show last night. And it seemed like he was a little bit – maybe he does have some rippling effects from whatever sickness he had. It seemed like we did not have full Lamar. They get a win.

They get a win. Mark Andrews' first score, thank you. Shout out FanDuel for the super boost. It was Chubb or Mark Andrews for first touchdown from 300 plus 300 to plus 450. I was like, wow, I'm going huge on that. They literally, I opened the thing. They showed that to me. Hey, would you like to take our fucking money?

Yeah, I would. Sounds good. Boom. I hit that thing pretty big. It wasn't until the third quarter. Yeah. It wasn't until the third quarter. That was a wild game last night.

Defenses balled out. But standing at division, I heard some tones here earlier. He said Big Ben was the greatest quarterback in Steelers history. You guys hate Terry Bradshaw? Well, I mean, we're hot. I'm asking Steel Kirk. Yeah, the defense won those. Ben would have won ten Super Bowls with that team.

Me and Joe Green. Wow. Wow. What's – wow. What's that all about? Because I remember like a week ago you said you watched some film on Terry Bradshaw and you said nobody's giving him enough respect. I mean, it was obviously a different game back then, but he was like – some of the throws and the plays that he was making, it looks like what guys are doing like today.

We love TB. Obviously we love TB. No, you're a little bad. I didn't know. But seven is my savior, D-Bet. Is that like the consensus that Big Ben is the greatest Steelers quarterback of all time? I didn't know that was the consensus.

Oh, yeah. I don't know if that's the consensus. Nick? Nick would be the nice judgment here. I don't know. I mean, we saw seven play. Obviously, we're biased towards seven. That's what I'm saying.

Generational, I don't know. Okay. What about Tommy Gunn? What about Ianzer? What's he say? What's he say? Which is his quarterback? You should do him. Oh, Frank.

Yeah. Have you seen Frank Caliendo, D-Butt? Oh, yeah. You ever? Frank's a legend. He is. By the way, Frank, you are a legend. I'm a legend.

Hell yeah. Can I be a living legend? I'm not going yet. Yeah. Yeah. Living legend. Living legend. Can I be a living legend? I'm not going yet. Yeah, yeah. Living legend. Living legend. Well, thank you very much.

There's an account called Epitome of Yinzer, at E. Yinzer. Okay. And it is basically every Pittsburgh dad watching the Steelers. He is so angry all the time. Yeah. Yeah, that would be a good one. That's the dude in knee wraps? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I saw like a short clip of him. Is that that dude in the knee wraps? By the way, why is he wearing them? We'll never know. I mean, D-Boy, you played against Ben, okay? You know what Ben does.

Yeah. Yeah, he's had some of his best games probably with me on the field, so I know exactly what he did. I just didn't know God won for him, but we didn't watch him. I get it. Guy, you think Ben's done though, huh? He's dead? He's done? What if he decides to come back next year, AJ?

Yeah, what could he do to revive his career and revive his arm this year? Oh, no. You all know. Jurgens. I'm not going there, man. I think he's done. I think he's done. I mean, obviously.

But I thought he chose some light even last week. He looked good last week. I just felt like he fell off a cliff. But maybe he bounces back. Who knows? But he can't come back next year. Hell no. Yeah, he maybe needs to take a trip back to the thought shop.

That's right. Big bounce back. Yeah. Big thing. He's 40 years old. We shouldn't look down on him for fucking not playing his best at 40. No, we agree. We're just saying we hope to see him.

He could squeeze out some victories. Yeah, he could, couldn't he? He could. Imagine he starts squirting those balls back through. Defense might not be able to jerk him around anymore. Frank is so confused.

I've got to catch a flight. I've been trying not to say anything. I didn't want to cut anybody off and I'm just sitting here going I'm going to miss this thing he likes to jerk off Frank he beats his baloney he used to

he's going to die good for him thank you guys for having me Pittsburgh, Atlantic City Pittsburgh, Atlantic City. Yeah, Pittsburgh, Atlantic City, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. FrankOnStage.com for all the tickets. Come hang out. Hey, I appreciate you guys.

Thanks for having me. No, thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, Frank Callie. I want to keep working on the McAfee. No, no, no. Hey, listen. If it's forced, don't feel it. But I will be incredibly proud if there is an impression of me from you, sir.

Thank you, man. Have a good one. Safe traveling. Alright, see you, man. Have a good one, Frank. Alright, see you, Frank. Best airport in America. He'll be in his seat in 25 minutes. He will be,

but then he'll have to make four layovers to get to his final destination. A lot of construction on days to go down there. Classic Indianapolis airport. Cleanest airport. Most efficient airport. We got flights to four cities for you. Sweet cars in there, though.

Great cars, great design, great lighting, great food. It's like a hangout. If you want to just go hang out, it's a great spot. Chick-fil-A. Yeah, in every city they fly you to, that city will then take it upon themselves to fly you to where you actually have to go.

That's right. Indy will get you to those cities that will be like, hey, we got you. We got a flight to a place where people will actually go to. That's right. Beautiful airport, though. Oh, yeah. Gorgeous.

Beautiful airport. Can't stress it enough enough what do you got tonight uh you russell wilson guy i forget you russell wilson uh fan you you all in on the mr unlimited train especially on monday night football i mean i love russ thinks his birthday too oh here we go but uh i mean he's been stinking it up since he came back maybe that maybe that injury is a little more a little more serious than he led us to believe um but he's been stinking it up since he came back. Maybe that injury is a little more serious than he led us to believe. But he's been stinking it up. On the flip side, watch the football team.

They ran down the Panthers' throat. Ran down the Bucs' throat. So, I think I'm going with Heineken tonight. Wow. On Mr. Unlimited's birthday. Wow. Take the Heineken. All right, Unlimited's birthday. Wow. Take the Heineken. All right, AJ, your choice.

Who you got? AJ, what are you thinking? AJ. What are you saying? AJ, what are you saying? AJ. Come on now, Hawk. Come on now, Hawk.

Come on now, Hawk. Come on now, Hawk. Come on now, Hawk. You guys done? We will be when you make your pick. I'm sticking with D-Button. I'm taking Washington. You got done? I'm sticking with D-Butt. I'm taking Washington. You got Washington?

Yeah, even though I know I said that you had to go first, I don't care. I have confidence in D-Butt and everything he's saying. I would have went first. Yeah, you would have. I forgot about that. Okay, you want Washington? All right, I'll go with Russell Wilson on his birthday in Washington, D.C., in which he is trying to run for president.

He's got so many politicians in there. Oh run for president. He's got so many politicians in there. Oh, my God. He's got so many. I got Russell Wilson minus one on the road against the Washington football team. You don't think Russell Wilson is going to use Monday Night Football in the nation's capital as an audition for presidency? You're out of your fucking mind. You think Clear Eyes, Full Hearts is going to lose on this night? No way. Not a chance. presidency you're out of your fucking mind you think clear eyes full hearts is gonna lose

on this night no way let's go ross what's that i'll take that over 46 and a half god hi here we go d buck on for a twofer yeah i mean i need it for a twofer. D-Buck going for a twofer. Yeah, I mean, I need it. Seahawks are 8-1 to the under. AJ, you want to make any twofers? No, I don't need to make a twofer, but I did have a question about Jamal Adams for D,

but what do you think of him as a safety? I know he's used as a blitzer, very physical guy. Can he do it all? I wouldn't say he can do it all, no. He's a guy that you want around the line of scrimmage, you want in the box. Obviously, you want to pressure the quarterback being in the run game. That's what he does best. You put him in the pass game,

you get him on the island. That's not where he thrives. I think I was supposed to be an island corner. I think I go back in my time. I think that's what I was supposed to do. What is that? That's the most athletic person on earth, D-Butt?

Yeah, got to be because you're guarding the most athletic and you're always one step behind. That corner, you got to have a different mindset out there. Like Rivas. Like Rivas, for instance. He doesn't get talked about because he doesn't do a lot of media anymore. I don't think he does any media at all. Obviously, Prime, Deion Sanders is a guy.

But Revis, in my generation, was like the best businessman. And he was his own thing as Revis Island. And it was like, you get him on a field, the other 10 are literally running a different defense. It's just – Revis, that is the best that I've seen with my own two eyes. That's the best. And I saw him in own two eyes like that's that's the best and I saw him in college

you know been in Big East been in Pittsburgh saw him there and then saw him I was in the AFC but like that Revis Island year

he had like that was the best like his patience explosiveness strength all that he checked all those boxes

like you said a great businessman too he kept betting on himself so it's not something just everybody can do when do you know Coerciveness, strength, all of that. He checked all those boxes. Like you said, a great businessman, too. He kept betting on himself. So it's not something just everybody can do. When do you know? When do guys know?

When do you learn you're not an island corner, you think? Oh, shit, you learn early. You learn early because, I mean, as long as you stand there and you keep fighting, you know, you just got to get them more than you get got. That's just what it is. But the thing about it is, when is when you get got everybody sees it it's not like a d lineman it's not like a linebacker people can miss that you can drop a pass people forget about if you catch a touchdown later dbs you can have 58 great reps you have three bad reps that could be two touchdowns and you're on every highlight so it's's different from that standpoint. Physically, obviously it has

its challenges, but I think mentally more than anything. It's a lot like offensive line in that particular regard. You know, they 55 great reps against an all-pro pass rusher, and they get three sacks, you're fired. You give up three sacks and one get, get

the fuck out of our building. You are. So everybody did pretty good for the, Get the fuck out of our building. You are. Sorry, everybody. I did pretty good for the get the fuck out of here. It is an interesting thing. D-Butt, we need more time with you this week. Will you join us in a later day here? Hit me.

I'm good. You know. Ladies and gentlemen, host of the Man to Man podcast, and also a man who has Taylor Heineke and the Washington football team, plus one tonight at home on Monday Night Football. Darius Butler. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes. The fact that you do, we are eternally grateful for. Tomorrow's Aaron Rodgers Tuesday.

Be a friend. Tell a friend. Let's continue to build this thing. If you didn't like this show, don't tell anybody, obviously. But if you did like it, let's go ahead and grow. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful Monday night with Russell Wilson getting a big time win on his birthday.

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