The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 548 - Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Week 12, Monday Night Football Recap With AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 30, 2021

On today's show, Pat, AJ, and the boys chat about last night's Monday Night Football game and whether or not the Seahawks are dead, if this is truly the end of an era with Pete Carroll and Russell Wil...son, if the Football Team is someone to keep an eye on as we reach the most meaningful football of the season, Tom Brady's comments about beating the Colts again on the Let's Go Podcast on Sirius XM, if people cant stand Tom Brady more now than when he was a Patriot, and tonight's episode of Man in the Arena. Joining Pat and AJ Hawk like he does every Tuesday, coming off a huge win over the Rams, is the Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Pat, Aaron, and AJ chat about the big win over the Rams, some of the freedom that Davante Adams has while running routes, their chemistry in the offense, his incredible pump fake touchdown on Jalen Ramsay, how the toe is feelings and whether or not he's going to have surgery on the bye week, or if that is something that will happen in the future, his feelings about playing in the cold in Green Bay, and much much more (29:55-1:09:14). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, it is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, November 30th, 2021. Big show, broke some news, had some convos. Let's get right to it. If you like this show, by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Here we go. There's a lot to talk about whenever it comes around,
Starting point is 00:00:17 the man, Aaron Rodgers. I mean, we're talking about a broken toe. We've seen his foot since the last time we chatted with him. He is now trending because of a photo that has Jalen Ramsey on the ground behind him with him flexing after doing a little juke do-si-do with a broken freaking toe. Can't wait to chat with him. Looking down the barrel of a bye week. What's he going to do?
Starting point is 00:00:40 Allegedly, there was going to be surgery. Then there's no surgery. How is he going to spend it? Because does he have to get tested? Maybe not because he had COVID pretty publicly and he had 70 some days. There's a lot to chitchat with him about. I can't wait to get to it. We'll also
Starting point is 00:00:53 be talking to AJ Hawk just like every other day of the week. The boys are here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Conner at the Toxic Table. How you doing? I'm doing okay. Tone Diggs, the COVID cowboy, who has now saddled the horse of the Super Boost
Starting point is 00:01:09 for Thursday Night Football. He will now take the reins of the Super Boost and hopefully guide us into a heater that we have not experienced thus far in this 2021 NFL season. He's staring down a Thursday Night Football matchup that has a lot of question marks.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Dallas Cowboys, New Orleans Saints. Taysom Hill is getting one reps. Is he starting a quarterback? Are they doing this just to fuck with people on the incredibly short week that is Thursday night football games? Dallas has Zeke back, Cooper back, Dak is still there, but
Starting point is 00:01:42 Big Mike McCarthy and seven others have Omnicron running through the stars. Tone Diggs has been zeroing in on a potential target for the super boost. I don't want you to give it away yet because we don't know if we can boost that particular bet. But as you look at Thursday Night Football, Tone, as the man who is potentially going to have millions and millions of dollars on his back as we ride that super boost to a happy town. How are you feeling looking a couple days out?
Starting point is 00:02:13 So there's a lot of variables in this game. You know, you talked about Taysom taking the one reps now. Kabara might be back. Mark Inger might be back. Dak may have CeeDee Lamb and Amari Cooper back. We don't know what's going on with Big Mike. So you try to find the constants. The constants that are going to be there in this
Starting point is 00:02:31 game. The tried and trues that you know are going to be in this game that these variables won't affect. And that's the vision I'm on right now. So I'm going to try to find the bet that these variables are not going to affect. Thank you, Tony.
Starting point is 00:02:45 The COVID cowboy. to find the bet that these variables are not going to affect. Thank you, Tony. Thank you, Tony. Thank you, Tony. The COVID cowboy, the hammered Don cowboy, the man who will win us all a bunch of money, and also a man who potentially could have guided me into a better decision in last night's game. And I think the thing about Thursday night football game, and whenever he's talking about all the variables between the Cowboys
Starting point is 00:03:02 and the Saints, there's variables, it seems, like every week for every team. Why are teams beating teams? Why are teams shitting all over themselves? I have no idea. I think this year, the amount of random what is happening a lot more than often. Now, is it because it's a 17-game season? Is it because we're coming post-COVID and we don't know what we don't know after a year off? Is it because of the way teams are being constructed with the way money is being spent and how locker rooms are coming together and consistency might not be there? I have no idea. Is this what the NFL looks like for the next 10 years, 20 years? Maybe it is electrifying, but it is a little bit frustrating when you're trying to gamble on these games. For instance, last night, Russell Wilson on primetime television on his birthday in the nation's capital.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Okay? You put all those things together. We know Russ. Hey, he and Sierra, they're shaking hands with everybody. Power couple. That's a homecoming almost when you go to D.C. for Russell Wilson. That is a power couple that has powerful relationships. That is in the nation's cap.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Wale is there. You know, there's a lot of people in the building chit-chatting, watching this game. Russell Wilson has a chance to put on a show for his East Coast friends because he's all the way in fucking Seattle where they toss fish on the left side of the country. Long way away. Nobody could have thought what was going to happen last night happened last night.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I mean, they stink. They stink. They stink. Terrible. No, this is no offense to the Washington football team. Great win. Good win. Good boy, Heineke.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I mean, Washington football team dominated the Seattle Seahawks in basically every single statistical category, including the time of possession to like 48 minutes to something like 12 minutes or something. I mean, it was something absurd. Taylor like 48 minutes to something like 12 minutes. Yeah. I mean, it was something absurd. Taylor Heineke gets a big time win. Ron Rivera's walking off the field saying, let's fucking go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Let's fucking go to the Washington football team faithful. That has been around since 1932 or something. I saw it in the end zone painted in there. Fascinating. New team name. Same organization. They're saying Steve Levy. Huh? Man in the end zone painted in there. Fascinating. New team name, same organization. They're saying, Steve Levy.
Starting point is 00:05:07 On the way out. Steve, come on. It's going to happen. Long night. Long night. The long night is going to happen as we continue to transition. Even whenever they get their new name,
Starting point is 00:05:16 I think hopefully that will change. But how could we have ever predicted? And I guess AJ did. And Darius Butler did. And AJ ended up beating me in week 12. Son of a bitch. And we're on to week 13.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah, what's done is done. What's done is done. Can't talk about it. Nope. It's in the past. We're on to week 13. Hell yeah. Anyways, what a wild, wild season.
Starting point is 00:05:39 If you start looking at the standings right now, the teams are at the top. I guess we could have known they were going to be at the top, but so many teams are in the hunt yeah so many teams are looking in i mean that we saw a graphic earlier that dirty put together that literally had you know the people that are into boom here it is the division leaders the wild card then in the hunt in the hunt shit there's only a few teams that aren't in the hunt right now on both sides. Extra week. Who knows what's going to happen with injuries? I mean, the Patriots right now, incredibly hot. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:10 But what if somebody gets injured? You know, you have to think about that in the NFL. I don't want it to happen. I don't want to put it in the universe. But whenever you look at any of these teams, they're one or two players away from potentially, oh, fuck, and that has been happening to some teams. Derrick Henry.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Imagine when Derrick Henry was playing for the Tennessee Titans, what they were, what they were doing to teams. They might have killed the Seahawks, to be honest. Gumby said that earlier. It has been since the Titans did what they did to the Seahawks in the second half of that game, the Seahawks have basically been dead ever since. Now, Geno Smith was playing.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Russell Wilson is a Wolverine and came back earlier than anybody could have thought, but they've been dead ever since. Teams have changed complete identities this season already. Now we're getting into real football. Now we're getting into meaningful games. And I think I heard Jeff Saturday say this earlier about how some teams have already proven themselves and they've done well.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And I think he was talking about Mike McCarthy and the Dallas Cowboys. If they continue, if they lose, if the Dallas Cowboys lose, nobody's going to give a single fuck about how they started December football is all that matters is basically what Jeff said and Jeff got to play in a lot of playoff games and a lot of big time games and anytime you hear that I kind of get reminded like you're the end of the season is the only thing anybody remembers going into the offseason unless you stunk the entire year then you're just kind of thrown away as a trash team oh they get a top five pick they're going change their program oh yeah hey they're gonna change their program they're gonna change their program but if you were hot early and then you got cold in december that's
Starting point is 00:07:32 all anybody remembers this team fell apart this team couldn't do this this injury happened and they had to go this complete different way in free agency and they had to turn over their team maybe new coach i mean nothing matters except for the the football we're about to get into. And I think this year the most unpredictable shit has already happened. We can assume it's only going to continue as we get into the most important, crucial games of the season. Yeah, like a lot of those teams that are at the top of the playoff hunt, if you will, have lost to teams that aren't even in it.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Like the Titans have lost to the Jets and the Texans. The Patriots probably should have lost to the Texans. Even the Packers. I mean, the Packers week one lose to the Saintsets and the Texans. The Patriots probably should have lost to the Texans. Even the Packers. I mean, the Packers week one lose to the Saints, get killed by the Saints, and then here we are damn near halfway through the season, more than halfway through the season. Well, there's another Jimmy Winston getting hurt there. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It's a huge thing. Can you put up the ESPN Power Rankings? You're talking about teams losing to teams and it changing and everything like that. How about the Los Angeles Rams post-Robert Woods? Yeah. Okay, post- Robert Woods injury. This is ESPN's Power Rankings.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Thank you, ESPN. ESPN's Power Rankings are comprised of 81 writers, reporters, and football personalities. They all
Starting point is 00:08:44 vote each week. We still don't know if it's how they think it's going to end or what they think right now. We've been told it's right now, but a lot of the picks we have felt have definitely been thinking about in the end earlier in the year. This week, from last week going into this week, the most fascinating one to me is Los Angeles Rams last week were ranked fourth in the NFL. This team, hey, Matt Stafford's balling they got OBJ they're going they lose to the number one team in the NFL this week
Starting point is 00:09:10 the Green Bay Packers they fall completely out of the top 10 is that because Robert Woods is it an eye test because the Titans lose uh and the Titans were at three and they're at eight now they lose to a nobody team a couple weeks in a row they're still in the top 10 rams get the hell out that is kind of indicative though the 81 people that we do not know and who knows if we should take what they say seriously i don't care how long they've been around the game we should at least maybe think about should we take them seriously or not some people are great hey hey listen this is not a this is not an everybody stinks thing. No, no, no, no. But that is kind of indicative on what the season is. We have no fucking clue.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And now, you know, Cliff Kingsbury and the Cardinals come out of a bye, and Kyler will probably be as healthy as he has to. And Colt McCoy, I think, what, two and one? And Cliff Kingsbury, although, I mean, Schefter's taking it on the shit. Oh, yeah, big time. There was a tweet at one time that a source said at some point to somebody that Cliff Kingsbury might be the new coach of Oklahoma, which everybody said, how or why would Cliff Kingsbury do that?
Starting point is 00:10:15 The team is finally good. They have a young roster, and it seems like he's getting better as an NFL coach each year, and he did not win in college. So why would he go back to college football whenever he is succeeding at a very high level with a young group of superstars in a city that is the fourth largest in America with an owner that's going all in?
Starting point is 00:10:35 Why the fuck would Cliff Kingsbury go to Oklahoma? It's what everybody said immediately following Schefter's report that that was going to happen, but that's real. They were winning without Kyler now Kyler comes back I think that guy should be in conversation for the coach of the year shit at this point and that team could go but is there any other teams other than them that we say oh they're going to show up every single week and do well you could say the Bucs I guess because they have Tom but there's been a couple games where it hasn't happened we assume they're going to go though we just everybody just assumes especially after this the Bucs, I guess, because they have Tom. But there's been a couple games where it hasn't happened. We assume
Starting point is 00:11:05 they're going to go, though. Everybody just assumes, especially after this big win against the Colts this past weekend. And the Colts, they have a chance to potentially go too. Nobody, I mean, unless they're heartbroken because of losing to Tom. And then Tom goes on his podcast and we have the clip. Listen to what Tom
Starting point is 00:11:22 said about beating the Colts on Sunday, a game in which I was at. A lot of guys were at for Robert Mathis' thing, and we had a 10-point lead at one point to win, and it's Tom and it's a lot of X-Coach. Listen to how Tom Brady described that Super Boost losing on Sunday in Indianapolis. Always fun talking to you on a Monday after winning, especially fun after we beat the Colts, which, you know, I know we've
Starting point is 00:11:50 done a pretty good job of that lately. I think I've beat the Colts the last nine times I played them. It was great to win in India. It turns out that horseshoe on their helmets isn't as lucky as it seems. It really sucks for them, but not for us. It was a great win. That's good. It's been a lucky horseshoe for you. Maybe you're carrying it seems. It really sucks for them, but not for us. It was a great win. That's good.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's been a lucky portion for you. Maybe you're carrying it around. Maybe. Send it out to Peyton. Give me a decal or something. It still holds that same feeling, even in a Bucs uniform. Good follow-up, Jim. It's great to beat the Colts always. I've had,
Starting point is 00:12:22 obviously, quite a history with them. I loved when Peyton was there. It was pretty tough to beat him when Peyton was there, when he was their quarterback. Yikes. However, after, you know, Carson was their quarterback now, I think was in kindergarten, Peyton's rookie season. So that tells you how long this has been going back for. But it was good. We've had quite a few coaches on our staff that were a part of the Colts organization for a long time, like Clyde Christensen and Tom Moore and even B.A. Coach Peyton there. So I said, listen, don't let anyone get teary-eyed after we beat these guys. I don't want any sadness.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Don't feel like there's anything to be sad about after we win this game. J. Weiss. Man. What about that guy? Yeah. I mean, he's dancing on our grave. Big time. I didn't know that was like that.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I mean, it makes sense. Because the Tom Payton thing was always viewed as a rivalry because it was. Those two motherfuckers are going to run into each other late in the AFC championship. And Tom was going to win a lot of those. But Payton got his fair share as well. If you look back at who represented the AFC in the Super Bowl at a quarterback position, it's like Tom, Peyton, Ben Roethlisberger, and Flacco snuck in.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And that's like for 20 years almost. That was kind of the AFC. I got a chance to experience the last time, you know, the Colts beat the Patriots. It was in Indianapolis. It was the fourth and two game. Melvin Bullitt makes a massive play. Reggie Wayne scores a touchdown. We win.
Starting point is 00:13:42 How you doing? Keep it moving. We did celebrate. That was a great evening, a great time. Massive play. Reggie Wayne scores a touchdown. We win. How you doing? Keep it moving. We did celebrate. That was a great evening, a great time. And then I would find out as the regime would turn over and the team would as well that the schedule makers at the NFL still wanted the Colts to play the Patriots, you know, because all those years of history. And there was plenty of time where it seemed like a buzzsaw was happening on the other sideline as opposed to us. But a lot of fucking great battles.
Starting point is 00:14:10 And I didn't necessarily love how Jim and Tom addressed that. But I like that passion. I enjoy that type of rivalry feel because that is something that does happen and is real. But it's never talked about with the NFL because the NFL guys only play it for money. These sons of bitches don't care about anything but themselves. They don't love the game. But then whenever they're too passionate, we got to penalize it. Whenever they talk like this, we got to hate it.
Starting point is 00:14:34 It's like, I love that they're still, and for Tom, there's always going to be something. He's like fucking Michael Jordan in the Utah restaurant when George Carl walked by and said, how are you doing, greatest of all time, Michael Jordan? And Michael Jordan said, that motherfucker told me he was going to be a wallop. That was awesome. Tom has that same thing, and I enjoyed hearing that,
Starting point is 00:14:57 although I was on the wrong end of it a lot. I enjoy learning about this Tom Brady character. He's an assassin. He is a savage assassin, and it is. We're getting to learn about it here now. It's 20 years into his great years. And in his words, at the end of The Last Man in the Arena, I'm still fucking doing it.
Starting point is 00:15:13 No big deal. You are, dude. You absolutely are. Another one tonight with Vrabel and Bruschi should be awesome. But it makes sense, kind of, right? Because for 20 years, when you're with one team, the rivalries that you have there probably kind of carry in to what the Bucs. Yeah, the rivalry was with Tom Brady, though.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You've got to remember, like, the people of Indianapolis hate Tom Brady. Oh, yeah, big time. Like, they hate the Patriots, obviously. Hate Tom Brady. A lot of people twisted. Not as torn as becoming Broncos fans. Oh, yeah. So when Peyton went, a lot of people were very okay with being Broncos fans.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Not as many people okay with being Tom Brady fans in Tampa away from New England. Those split jerseys when Peyton went to Denver, those were an actual. That was despicable. That was happening. But I understood it. I very much understood it because Peyton was the face of the team.
Starting point is 00:16:02 There was a lot of great players on that team, great players that were right alongside Peyton that entire time. But when Peyton was brought in, a chapter began that was very different than any chapter that came before it here in Indianapolis Colts football history. Now, Baltimore Colts football has great history, right? Since it came to Indianapolis though, they stunk. Peyton gave an interview actually uh with NFL
Starting point is 00:16:25 films and he said like you know the Colts used to be the one that people circled and said hey we're going to get a win here I felt like I you know I wanted to change that right that was kind of the identity of what Peyton in the city was because Peyton was a robot to becoming great and he was great personality he was beloved so whenever he went to denver there was a lot of people that did not like football in indiana there were either race fans or basketball fans because basketball is huge here both with the pacers and iu in the race the indianapolis motor speedway hosts the largest sporting event in the world 300 400 000 people come to the super bowl of indycar here so they became
Starting point is 00:17:06 football fans because of peyton manning so then when peyton manning gets cut right which is what happened and he's emotional at his press conference when he's leaving like hey i love you i think he has a children's hospital yeah there's people there are so many dogs and kids named peyton around here you have no so when he goes to Denver, I completely understood that people were going to become Broncos fans. But there was a lot of people that came to the city later and on our team that were like, fuck these people, man. They don't like us or whatever. And it was like, I don't think you get what
Starting point is 00:17:36 this dude was, though, and what he represented. Because I think a lot of his teammates don't get anywhere near enough credit. I mean, I was with a bunch of them this weekend. There's a lot of Hall of Famers that are on that team that were incredible. But Peyton was like the lifeline to the people of the Colts, even though they loved Reggie and they loved Edrin James and Freeney and Mathis and Gary Brackett and Jeff Saturday and all of those.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I mean, Dean, Joseph Adai, Clint Sesh. I could go through that entire team that was just Charlie Johnson. It was riddled with – I mean, Dominic Rhodes is one of the coolest dudes of all time. Nobody ever really talks about him. He was hilarious. I mean, there was just a group of people, yeah, and that was some of them. There was a group of people that were really a big part of building it here, but Peyton was kind of the face of that.
Starting point is 00:18:17 So when they left, they went over there. A lot of Tom Brady fans around Indy, though, when he went to Tampa, but not as many as I thought it was going to be. They still hate Tom, and they still hate the New England Patriots, which is probably how it is for everybody. I wonder if that's ever going to stop. I don't know. I've liked Tom more now. Me too.
Starting point is 00:18:37 He's left New England a little bit, but not that much. Oh, so it's not like, hey, because I've enjoyed him. He did an interview with howard right he did that uh zoom call with howard stern it was like an hour and a half and he got a chance to like kind of listen to him talk a little bit and he never really buried new england ever in that hour and a half which is fascinating because all the stories that came out now the man in the arena where he's choosing to have other people's documentaries basically happen within his documentary because he knows it's going to happen tonight.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Vrabel's on it. Let's fucking go. It's going to be awesome. Hey, let's go. I mean, Brewski's obviously incredibly talented at speaking. He does good on ESPN. But if fucking Vrabes is on an open mic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Must watch TV. Let's go. He'll bury Brady a few times. Oh, yeah. About how good the defense is. And if they have Brewski and Vrabel on there, I mean, it's like one of the most, the way Tom is allowing it to happen, as opposed to what happened with the other one, right?
Starting point is 00:19:30 We got Scottie Pippen doing, you know, like answer documents. You know, like that whole thing. It's Tom's doing it in a fashion where he got to learn, at least from the way the last dance went. But Tom, I think, is trying to actually let people know, like he understands that it wasn't just him. But I don't think a lot of people view it that way they hate just his ass they think it's him that did everything well and it's weird too because like being a fan of the packers like in the nfc like i never really hated tom that much you know i mean the packers played the the patriots
Starting point is 00:19:58 so rarely and i mean it was kind of one of those things where like he keeps winning like you know fuck this guy i'm kind of tired of seeing him. But it is. Even with them being in the NFC, he's just – and it's probably one of those things, too, and we talk about it all the time with Peyton and how Indianapolis – there's still good fans here, but the whole thing kind of regresses when you lose a guy like that.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And being able to watch him leave and just thinking there's no way that he's going to go to Tampa and turn this thing around right away is he and then he does and it's like you can't help but just marvel at the guy well how about season tickets sold out immediately yeah I'm signing I think the jerseys went up through the roof everything they hosted the Super Bowl they won the Super Bowl there they're back in conversation that hadn't happened since all thought was wrong people right that's right that hadn't happened since All-Star was running people off. Right. That's right. That hadn't happened for a long, long time down in Tampa, although they had a team, obviously, an electrifying team with Jameis. Hey, those games had to be awesome to watch.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Oh, yeah. Especially live, the amount of, oh, ah, boo, ah. The amount of swings that were happening. Most touchdowns, most interceptions. Think about how electrifying that would be to watch. It was. I caught myself watching some of his games that year because you had no idea.
Starting point is 00:21:09 He was going to keep his team in it. He was going to keep their team in it. It was awesome. He was the game all by himself. But then insert Tom. Boom, we won a Super Bowl. New franchise. There's the amount of, what are those things called?
Starting point is 00:21:20 And now Florida hit a home run too because, I mean, there are tax policies. And also during COVID, they were one of the only states that just said, yeah, like, come on. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:21:32 You'll be all right. I mean, they really did. The amount of people that moved to Florida. I mean, there's a lot of people that moved to Florida. Cause even if they were in a part of Florida where you couldn't really go or do anything,
Starting point is 00:21:41 at least you're in warm weather and you could maybe see something. So people were leaving leaving where they were. If I'm going to be locked down somewhere, I'd rather go down. You win a Super Bowl and Florida is becoming a destination place for people to move. The amount of cranes that are around Tampa Bay, they're built – Tom has shown up, and I'm not saying it's just Tom. This is just like when Peyton showed up to the Colts
Starting point is 00:22:01 and the Colts became a thing. It was just Peyton, but it seemed – Tom showed up in Tampa Bay in this place. The Lightning have won their Stanley Cups, even though they did that before Tom got there. It's still like the spotlight on the entire city. The Rays were just in the World Series in baseball. The whole city has become the place, which is what Boston used to be. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:19 And then Tom gets kicked out of town, basically, which I think is going to be the final episode of Man of the Arena. Oh, what do you mean used to be? I mean, we're back already. That's not what we're not. Ah, the Bruins stink. Hey. Hey, the Bruins stink.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah, they do. The Bruins stink. You know better than anybody. Hockey doesn't start until February, okay? We know that. Yeah. And to your point about, you know, the Patriots being back again, which is definitely what you just said,
Starting point is 00:22:41 if the Colts didn't get Andrew Luck right after Peyton Manning, do you think that would have made it worse for Peyton? For Peyton? What do you mean? Do you think people would have kind of hated Peyton more if they didn't just have this guy? No, the way it ended with Peyton, Peyton got broken up with. Peyton was the hero.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Peyton got broken up with. He was not the one that decided. Now, granted, there was a lot of circumstances revolving that where i'm not sure if jim ursae or anybody knew if peyton was going to be able to play quarterback because of what was going on with his neck and there was a lockout i think happening and there
Starting point is 00:23:13 was like a 30 million dollar bonus or 20 million dollar bonus and then andrew lux also sitting there so i think there was a lot that built up that people were okay and understood that jim ursae had to make the decision he had to make but if Andrew Luck stinks and even though Andrew Luck's career wasn't 20 years he was so fucking good at football if Andrew Luck stinks though or Peyton is they're probably asking Peyton to come by the team
Starting point is 00:23:35 you know like hey come back and buy the team I don't think it's going the other way now for you guys if you guys didn't get Mac Jones here who seems to be a guy who's going to be a guy who fell right to you guys, he was supposed to go at three. Remember, he was supposed to go at three. And then at 11.
Starting point is 00:23:51 He could have gone at 11. He could have gone anywhere. Anybody that is currently in the, oh, fuck, we don't have a quarterback bed, could have gone up there and made a play. And instead, he falls to half the draft to the Patriots. So that means everybody had an opportunity. This is like when a movie comes out and you're not allowed to talk about the spoiler for so long,
Starting point is 00:24:09 but it waits long enough. It's like, all right, everybody had enough of their chances to fucking watch it. We're going to talk about it. 15 or 16, where was it? We picked out 15. 15 is far enough in there where everybody had their fucking shot to get in there.
Starting point is 00:24:23 If you wanted to get to 13 or 14, you could have with some basic-ass shit that we have seen people give up much less for. So Mac Jones fell all the way to New England. And I think it was that night where we all said, draft night, by the way, was awesome. I can't wait for next year. Me too.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I was offered like $6,000 to go cover the draft on a network. Whoa. Really? Yeah. And you said no? Well, I'm still thinking about it. I actually haven't answered. I actually haven't answered.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Yeah, what's that? For the upcoming one. Yeah, for the upcoming draft. Okay. I wanted to settle aside some time. Who gave you that offer? QVC? No, no.
Starting point is 00:25:00 It was great. It was great. It has not been returned, but draft spectacular night was incredible. Can't wait for the next one. Yeah. Only, I mean, we had both ties on last year. It was great. It has not been returned, but Draft Spectacular Night was incredible. Can't wait for the next one. Yeah. Only, I mean, we had bow ties on last year. That's right. You had a bow tie.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I had a bow tie. We had magic tricks. We had magic tricks. We did have magic tricks. Carl Magic was there. No, no, no, no, no. Jason Glazer and Mel Kiper. And also a waiter in Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Remember, you kind of just shoved him out. Oh, yeah. In the room. And he came back out. He walked out. He walked in. He walked out. You walked in.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I can't wait to see what happens next. Unless I take that $6,000 offer. Maybe you should get that Mickey Mouse magician who hangs from the stadium for this year in Vegas. Chris Angel? All right. He'll be a part of the draftsman team. Lock it in. How much is he going to cost?
Starting point is 00:25:43 A lot. $6,000 probably. Adele's doing Las Vegas. I wonder if she's taking Chris Angel's stage., he'll be a part of the draftsman team. Lock it in. How much is he going to cost? A lot. $6,000 probably. Adele's doing Las Vegas. I wonder if she's taking Chris Angel's stage. You think? She's doing a residency over there? No one takes Chris Angel's stage. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:25:52 He'll just pop one up too. I mean, he's magic. Boom. I'm going right there. I'm cutting you in half. I'm moving you over here. I'm putting your legs down yonder. We've got to do our thing.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Anyways, maybe Chris Angel will cut somebody in half In the next draft spectacular maybe he will We'll see We will see if it happens but this past draft spectacular Whenever we saw Mac Jones do the Joker walk Onto the stage look so uncomfortably awkward We said oh no How did this happen
Starting point is 00:26:19 And then as it continued to roll on it has happened It feels like you guys have found your guy He's tough as fuck too He takes shots and then he gets right he is like the spitting and although tom had to wait 199 picks if you thought you were going at three and you didn't go till 15 you could see how he could potentially build up some spite in that entire department and enough to keep his competitive stamina especially with the goat bill belichickick probably telling him what the fuck's going to happen the day before the game like we're learning
Starting point is 00:26:48 he did in Man in the Arena for Tom Brady. I mean, it is absurd. Put those rankings back up. Put those rankings back up. Where were you guys probably, you think, at the beginning of the year? Oh, at the beginning of the year, I think we were at like 23.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And everybody, remember you, the Dolphins were going to finish higher than you guys. Yeah, the Dolphins had better odds. Remember, I got fucking killed. i did slaughtered i got slaughtered on the internet just for saying it's weird that the patriots have lower odds than the fins not saying the patriots are definitely i mean kind i guess i did bring light to it like the dolphins are favored to a finish higher than the patriots in the AFC East. That's crazy. Like, you didn't even think about it as being malicious at all.
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Starting point is 00:29:55 Building in anticipation for a conversation that we're lucky enough to have every single Tuesday. This started last season. We would chit-chat. It was the COVID year. There was no crowd, but this man would go on to win the MVP, and we got a chance to ride alongside him every step of the way.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Back for season two has been nothing short of spectacular, including a book club being made and leading a team to the number one overall rankings in basically everybody's NFL power rankings after 12 weeks of NFL football. Ladies and gentlemen, the man with nine toes, Aaron Rodgers. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is that a 12 year old? Whoa.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Holy shit. I have 10 toes. Well, nine and a half, I guess. Prove it. You want a toe? Toe? Hold on. You cut out right there.
Starting point is 00:30:53 You said something great because you look awesome right now. I'm sure you're excited for the debut of the clean shave. You look seven to ten years younger. You look fantastic, pal, even though your toes all busted up. Look, I got a birthday coming up, and I'd rather look closer to my age than about ten years older than I look. I mean, just look at AJ, right? I mean, just look at AJ. AJ, with that home plate face, looks like he could run his head into anything.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Let's dive in to your state of mind here going into a bye week. Perfect timing for the bye week, right? Especially with this toe. The team gets some more pieces back. They're talking Takatari in December. Jair, everybody could be coming. This is a perfect time for the Green Bay Packers to feel better. Where are you at mentally, physically, and how will you spend the bye week?
Starting point is 00:31:41 I thought we were the last bye week, and then I realized that there's four other teams that have to play another game, which is unbelievable. I mean, you know, it's tough enough to play 12 and then have a bye, and you have four other teams playing 13 and then a bye. And that may need to get looked at at some point, because that's a long stretch of football to play without any type of break. But, yeah yeah you know i think we've been
Starting point is 00:32:07 dealing with as many injuries as we've had over the years uh for sure a lot of important players starters on ir some no chance to return some with a chance uh takatari obviously has an opportunity not sure when that will be jair hoping him uh Zedarius uh who knows Josh Myers up in the air so there's a lot of a lot of those and then you have the you know the weekly injuries that we've had with uh with Kevin King uh being being hurt and Aaron Jones dealing with his injury and you know he played a little bit last week. So it definitely comes at a good time. The bye, you know, I say that. The bye always comes at a good time.
Starting point is 00:32:47 But for us to be 9-3 sitting here, not many people probably expected that looking at our schedule. And definitely with what we've dealt with this year, with Devontae being out for, you know, COVID and Mark Wesmer so much time and all the injuries up front on the defensive side of the ball, to be 9-3 feels pretty good. So how's the toe feel, though? Like, as the game went, did it feel like you thought it would?
Starting point is 00:33:09 You looked early like you were bouncing around. We obviously know you want me to get to your touchdown run and everything. I don't know if that was – it didn't look like a designed read. It looked like you were pulling that, and that was – you were becoming a solo soldier, as one of your old coaches used to say. And it worked out, so credit to you. But later it looked like you may be limping a little bit. Did whatever they juiced you up with wear off a little bit?
Starting point is 00:33:30 It definitely wear it off a little bit. I also got stepped on at one point. I'd be foot stomping you all day if I was playing against you. Yeah, I mean, that seems like we do know what's hurt and how it's hurt. I guess the other team could do that, right? I mean, that's a target. Yeah, I mean, that seems like we do know what's hurt and how it's hurt. I guess the other team could do that, right? I mean, that's a target. Yeah, I don't know. You and Brady Papanga were putting a clothesline on people,
Starting point is 00:33:50 but I don't remember a lot of foot stomps you did besides, you know, your other antics on the field, flipping people off and the back of the kids, the way you did. But overall, as compared this Monday to last Monday, I definitely felt better and same with this Tuesday to last Tuesday. So I'll just keep getting treatment. We're hoping to avoid surgery obviously, but the surgery would be such a minor one. It wouldn't be something that I'd have to miss time with.
Starting point is 00:34:25 That's a prereq for any surgery that I have at this point. I'm not going to miss any time. So we'll kind of reassess early next week and make a decision. But it's not something where I could have surgery, you know, on a Monday or Tuesday and play on Sunday. Oh, so we still might get surgery, it sounds like, because it was a report you were going to get surgery. Then the report was like, no, he's not going to get surgery.
Starting point is 00:34:50 There is still a chance you're going to get surgery on the toe. Yeah, look, again, with these reports, I don't know where they're coming from. I don't know who's talking. It seems like there's certain coaches that may have friends in the media that they don't realize are actually just trying to report things. Guys on the Green Bay staff, you're saying? Oh, yeah. Age, you've known about that.
Starting point is 00:35:16 There were guys for a while who had their people they would leak stuff to. Oh, can't have it, Aaron. Can't have it. Can't have it. But you think that's potentially what's happening somebody maybe got word that there was a potential surgery and then somebody else was like well he's not having it right now and that's why it's potentially getting reported and the fact that you might still get it on like Monday and still be able to play is I assume the
Starting point is 00:35:39 follow-up would be why not do it now is there something that can happen between now and Monday to find out if you can't do surgery like a healing process that's already naturally happening well look when you when you the surgery would immobilize the toe and so then there's that would be an issue the entire season now it would avoid any uh you know further displacement but it would immobilize the toe so uh we're hoping that with a couple weeks here we can get enough healing that maybe we can avoid uh doing that now we'll reassess like i said probably you know later this week and early next week but um but the ultimate goal to not have to do surgery this thing heals up a little bit better, and you kind of make it through a few more weeks. And, you know, maybe it doesn't bother you the last few weeks of the season.
Starting point is 00:36:30 It doesn't seem like it was bothering you much during the game. Now, granted, there was the moments where you came up a little bit lame, and the gate was a little bit, you know, as if you were limping. But everybody's seen it, and I'll get to it since AJ didn't want to. I mean, that was fucking beautiful.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I mean, the RPO on an island with Jalen Ramsey, one of the best athletes in the NFL, one of the best football players in the NFL. Give him a fake because he has no idea what's happening. The classic on the run, pump fake, get him in the air. You see paid dirt, make a play. He gets whipped by his own momentum. And then a photo is generated that is iconic and will be used for a long, long time.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And I would assume should go up in your house somewhere. Let's talk about that, how you're feeling about the athleticism with a birthday coming up on Thursday. And also against Jalen in specific, you were 7-for-7 against him. Do you know that when they're going into a game? And is that something you think about? No, I mean, he's a great player. It's not like you have to be wary about certain routes that you throw on his side because he'll bait you into throwing certain things
Starting point is 00:37:36 and sit on routes from time to time. There is a little bit of a guessing game, but it also depends on the guy who's over there on his side. You know, we had a good plan with the with trying to get the ball out quickly and you know we're going up against two very probable hall of famers and a and a stud and two other studs you know floyd and and uh and ashaan and they're in their you know four-man front there uh we didn't want to hold on to the ball a whole lot so we had to do some some quick game and some chipping on the edges to get those
Starting point is 00:38:07 guys comfortable. I felt like the ball was coming up pretty good on time, and we didn't have any sacks, really. We had a phantom kind of zero yard, you know, when I got tripped up there. So the line, I thought, played really well, and that was the plan. But on that play, on the touchdown run, that was not the design play, not at all. The play was either hand the ball off or throw it to the left side to Tay in the flat.
Starting point is 00:38:32 And the pre-snap was there was four over three on the left side of the motion. And so I kind of was off of that already. And as the snap was coming, all I saw was Aaron Donald kind of looking like he was splitting the double team. And for whatever reason, I just pulled it and the whole right side line collapsed. And just thought, okay, well now I've got to run this one in. And as I moved out, obviously it was me and a far superior athlete on the edge. But in moments like that, you have to use whatever skill set you've got. For me, it's kind of my brain and the old uh the old pump fake
Starting point is 00:39:06 there was nobody over there uh not that he would have known that i mean there could have been a tight end kind of sneaking back out or the back or whatever but uh the pump fake was just enough to to hold him back there and uh the spike wasn't as good as i want it to be we have kind of a rule on spikes the ball has to exit the screen. You know, in the film. The ball exited the field and made somebody in the front row pretty happy with a nice souvenir
Starting point is 00:39:34 there. So I feel like that kind of made up for the fact that it wasn't one of those great spikes where the ball kind of goes straight up in the air. How do you grip it? Like this? Is this how you spike? Because you're trying to land that thing flat, right? That's what you're trying to do. You're trying to land that thing flat, right? That's what you're trying to do. You're trying to land that thing flat as possible, right? I was trying to have my hand kind of on the meat of the ball,
Starting point is 00:39:51 but I just must have missed it because it kind of bounced off to the right. Terrible spike. Pretty athletic play, though. Go ahead, AJ. Were you expecting Jalen Ramsey to travel and to cover Devontae, or did they not normally do that? He looked like he was frustrated at times when they were playing zone, and all of a sudden Devontae motions to the other side.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, he's been playing a lot of nickel, actually, for them, probably because he's such a great player, and you can maybe at times lose uh you know him in games if if he's playing outside and team's just going to ignore that side of the field so he started playing inside more and he's a really good blitzer and he can cover you know in inside or outside uh but with with davante he was he was doing some traveling but he wouldn't sometimes travel on motion from one side to the other. And then on the big throw that we hit Devontae on, the 43-yarder on third down, we motioned a tight end outside from backside two to frontside one. Of course.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And initially, Jalen was lined up on Devontae. Then he bumped out to guard Josiah, and that's when I kind of stepped up in the pocket and hit him down the sidelines. Yeah, I mean, he's a great player. That's why you motioned a tight end out to one, though, right? So then you wasted your best corner on a tight end. And one means furthest outside, right?
Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah, outside in. Yeah, one, two, three. So you saw that, and you instantly were like, okay, Devontae knows, I know. Like, this is what's happening. Yeah, I mean, Devontae, again, and that was a little bit of an ad lib on his part. You know, I came back and said, how come you ran that route? And he said, I just felt good about the matchup.
Starting point is 00:41:40 So if you watch it back. And that's the beauty in the game because, you know, you wouldn't always necessarily know that unless I, you know, I told you that little anecdote and I love it too. And it actually kind of messed me up on the last offensive play of the game that we had because we had similar play call. And this time he decided to, to run, you know, a slant. And I said, why'd you do it on that one? He goes, I just felt like, you know I just felt like that was the best option.
Starting point is 00:42:08 So I tell you, I trust him so much. And him and I have such a great unspoken chemistry on the field. And we even did a couple other little things in the game that are really cool that we've been working on and practicing off of some of the things that we did. How long has he just been choosing his own routes in his head against somebody? Has that been something that obviously doesn't start immediately, but has that been happening for some time? I mean, he has a lot of freedom, which he should,
Starting point is 00:42:42 because he's got such a great release pattern and he's such a smart guy. It's not like he's going outside maybe of schematic things, but he's making decisions that might not be the expected initial kind of paper football decision, like when you're looking at it on paper. Which is why I always say there's kind of a paper offense and an on-the-field offense. which is why I always say there's like kind of a paper offense and an on-the-field offense. There's like paper routes for Devontae, and then like when he's on the field, you know, do whatever you want. And he did last week against Minnesota on the second touchdown. You know, he kind of ad-libbed that route,
Starting point is 00:43:16 and that's why I was a little bit late getting to it when Everson drilled me. But that's exactly what you want because he totally froze the guy and scored a touchdown. Same thing on the big play on that third down the other night. So it's impossible to watch film then, right? Because then you don't really know what's coming, and how do you have to deal with it? Do you just have to be patient too and see what he's doing,
Starting point is 00:43:36 or do you normally have a pretty good sense beforehand? You're on the same page. I would say normally I have a pretty good sense. You just got to read body movements, and then also the conversations that we have are very high level when it comes to those situations. So even before the game, I remember walking over to him and saying, hey, you know, in this motion, I'm going to give you this,
Starting point is 00:43:54 and then it's going to be this, you know, just for that play. And the guys that I've really gelled with over the years, they expect those conversations. They know that, you know, I'm going to walk over at some point, you know, during my preparation for the game as I'm doing my last looks at the, you know, at the plan or at the wristband and say, hey, if this play comes in and this specific situation and I give you this specific signal, number, look, I want you to run this specific route. And the guys that I've had the best rapport
Starting point is 00:44:29 with, I think they probably love those because they know it might show up. And if it probably shows up, it's probably going to be a good situation. And then the flip side of that is when you've got a receiver who can tell you, hey, if I get this look or this matchup with this specific play call in this specific scenario, I'm going to do X. You know, I'm like, man, I can't wait. I hope that happens. Yeah, you just try to remember it, I guess. A.J. Dillon, I'm sorry, A.J. Hawk here.
Starting point is 00:44:59 A.J. Dillon and you, his relationship seems to be blossoming like in a fantastic, he's becoming like a dude. And Aaron Jones, obviously a little bit injured. He's obviously always going to have a part in the offense. But A.J. Dillon, he's posting about you on his Instagram. You're finding him in the basket. He's making some good catches, I think. He's running people over with that offensive line.
Starting point is 00:45:21 It's nice to see that relationship build, I think. Yeah, he's getting a nickname too he's the mayor of dork county or something he got the key to up and you know where dork county is dork county dork county d-o-o-r i thought look at if you look at your your hand right it's your left your left hand is w, and the thumb is Door County. I'm looking at the camera here. So the thumb – I can't even flip it here. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Nailed it. Too late. But the thumb is Door County. Use your toes. Show us with your toes. Yeah, show us. Let me get my toes out here again. That was awesome.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Why did you feel the need to do that? Did you see Billy Turner get his toes out? Yeah. Yeah. Solid. AJ, though, man, what a great kid. He is. He's, again, you know, the off-the-field stuff is very settled.
Starting point is 00:46:15 You know, he's engaged. He's, you know, he worked really hard, I think, on the mental part this offseason. And then the physical part has been just really fun to watch him running behind his pads and using his weight, you know, he had a run late in the game. You know, he had a nice cut in the hole and then it's him at 24 and he just,
Starting point is 00:46:36 and he didn't, it wasn't like he even had a huge lead up. He just, you know, and, and I'm in the background going, yeah, awesome, awesome moments to
Starting point is 00:46:47 watch, but the thing I love the most is his personality coming out in the games, and him, you know, cracking jokes in the shotgun, you love it, you know, or him, you know, trying to, trying to mess with me from time to time, you know, out on the field, I enjoy that, it's fun seeing his personality come out. He's a really, really good-hearted guy. And he's done a great job for us. He really has. He really has played well for us and been very consistent in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:47:14 You know, I was talking, we were watching the film yesterday, and, you know, I mentioned to Maddie we were watching a play where he had kind of a full-field read. And I threw it out in the flat to him, and he's got like six yards of separation in the second and seven. And he makes the first guy miss. And then he just lowers his head and gets, you know, and splits two guys and gets eight yards in his first down. And it's kind of a throwaway play if you're watching on TV.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Oh, he just threw a flat route and the guy, you know, ran into some people. But those are the type of winning football plays that he's been making over and over we got a second and one you know on a different drive getting down towards the red zone and uh you know he just you know puts his head down in there and gets two hard yards and moves the change this is the type of consistent winning football plays he's been making for us that have, you know, allowed us to be a little bit more explosive, especially the last couple weeks. Well, he's an absolute load.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Like, you can tell he wears on people. And that was Taylor Rapp, the safety. I felt bad for him trying to come up and make that tackle. Like, good luck. That's a tough situation. But you're capable. How are you supposed to tackle him? How are you supposed to tackle him?
Starting point is 00:48:20 You can't. You got to hope he trips over your body, basically, when he's right there in the hole. Those thighs and those knees just – I mean, because you go high. On the sideline. Doesn't he scare you when you see him on the sideline? I'm like, all right, who is going to come take this guy on? Because you might die.
Starting point is 00:48:33 He's a fridge. He's an actual fridge running out there. It's unbelievable. It's incredible to watch. And he's been getting more active in the entire offense. It's been kind of sweet. And, by the way, Connor tackled him one time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Woo! Attaboy, Connor. Big win. Attaboy. A statement was made that day. A message sent and hit, Pat. AJ said, I ain't never getting tackled again. And he has been tough to tackle ever since that day.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I mean, he was 12, you were 20, but that's the way things are going to go. Go ahead, AJ. That was a great hit out of bounds probably late. Late hit. You bounds probably late. You're an adult. You can vote and smoke cigs. This guy literally still 13 years old, but yeah, you're right. It was a big time hit. Hey, you did it. He remembered it. He's in the NFL now.
Starting point is 00:49:15 He said that. He definitely still haunts him. He wakes up at night, I'm sure. He can't get over that one. But Aaron, your cadence is a weapon. We know that. We've spoke about it on the show before. You had an early third down where your cadence got their guys a little bit back on their heels so they couldn't get off. That's a huge thing people probably don't talk about a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:49:33 They can't just pin their ears back and go because they're so scared of you getting them to draw them off sides. Your cadence, if you said, all right, guys, this is on three, what in the hell does that sound like? When the ball was snapped, I don't understand it. Is there anything you can tell us about it? AJ, I'm sorry. Because this is a great fucking question, journalist.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Because they snapped one, and you gave a cadence after the ball was snapped, but everybody was moving at one point. I think that was the most fascinating. How do young guys get that? How do young guys all of a sudden, like, okay, because normally it just doesn't seem normal to me. It's not. It's a rhythmic cadence that doesn't have a normal snap point.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And I think that's the beauty in it. You know, you grow up or you're playing in the street or at the local field. And, you know, the snap count's always on, like, hut, right? It's like set, hut, false snap. You know, that's not the way we do it. You know, there's different snap points for us. We've obviously expanded all the different things that we can do. You know, it's color number in our system,
Starting point is 00:50:37 and we can switch up the snap count on the first color and the second color and the third color and the fourth color and the sixth color. And then we can do it on the first second that third uh quick count i was happy you know we had some cadences that we haven't i haven't done in a while we had a late in the snap count quick cadence we had a multiple on threes in the game we had an on two we had you know we had, you know, first color, second color, third color, you know, first sound plays. And, you know, we're not drawing a ton of people off sides, maybe like we were for a time, whereas like you seem like every single game we had one or two. But it's definitely a weapon because you can't just tee off on what we're doing up front.
Starting point is 00:51:21 And, you know, we're going to keep using that as long as I'm here. Green 19, right, is what you say? Because it sounded like DMT. I thought you said DMT one time just to troll. I was like, this dude put his foot up as his Twitter avatar and he used DMT as a cadence. But it's Green 19. I actually rewound it.
Starting point is 00:51:39 My wife and I were like, did he just fucking say DMT? He might have. Yeah, let's rewind this. We listened back. You did not. Were you on some DMT? He might have. Yeah, let's rewind this. We listened back. You did not. Were you on some DMT when you were watching that questioning? You and your wife both are like, wait a second. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:51:54 We weren't on the DMT. Okay, we weren't taking deep dives into our soul, but we were on vitamins T, H, and C right there. And we did think it was potentially happening. Let's talk. And I think AJ wanted to bring it up. You lifting your foot in showing people what it was, and then now you put it as your Twitter avatar.
Starting point is 00:52:11 One of the greatest moves I've seen on the air. One of the greatest moves I've seen. I was so pumped about it. I don't know if you saw my tweet about when I found it. It wasn't until hours after you did it that I found out that you did that, and I'd just seen it. I was like, oh, this guy is fucking awesome. But how did you get to that point? You were sick of a, I mean, the wall street journal, I guess, wrote an article. I get tagged in everything that happens in your life.
Starting point is 00:52:32 The wall street journal wrote an article about it and there was headlines talking about how you said it. And it kind of, it was like the perfect example of what you've said a lot where, you know, people don't really listen to the context or the conversation at all. They just get some words on paper and then they run with it. And you've talked about this for a long time with how you've been covered. You were clearly joking, clearly. I mean, it was, and you can't get to the point where you're a robot and you don't joke about anything, but with how big that thing ran, did you just get fed up and that's why you decided to give all the foot fetish people a dream come true there right on that Zoom call? Or how did you get to that point, you think?
Starting point is 00:53:08 I think Rex Ryan probably enjoyed it. Oh, geez. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Rex, you're a good guy, Rex. One of the funniest press conferences was when Wes Welker said foot or feet like 15 times. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:53:31 What a funny guy that guy is. Straight-faced the whole time. Straight-faced, I know. That was amazing. Look, here's my issue with the whole thing. I'll precursor it by saying this. Andrew, who wrote the article from the Wall Street Journal, reached out to the Packers with his number.
Starting point is 00:53:52 They forwarded that to me, and I called him and had a very respectful conversation, was interested to hear his reasoning, and had a good conversation so i respect the fact that uh you know he got on the phone and there was no official apology from the wall street journal or or really uh much of a recanting of the uh of the story there's an adjustment of the you know the title to the article but but my my thing was this you and I and Age and the boys have a great rapport. You have a lot of laughs on this show.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I think it's pretty obvious if you're watching the show live, which so many people do, or watching it back on YouTube or all the different clips that the boys put up on social media. Pretty obvious when I'm joking and when I'm serious. when I'm joking and when I'm serious. And I clearly stated, and it was posted on there, that this is worse than turf toe, so it's obviously a bone issue. Yes. Now, you made a joke about COVID toe, and then I repeated that,
Starting point is 00:55:00 and that's all the Wall Street Journal wanted to say. Hey, you know, you said COVID toe. I'm like i'm like well me and 98 of the population maybe more until this article had no idea what covid toe actual thing okay so with apologies to anyone who's been afflicted with covid toe like i had no idea that was even uh you know something that could happen right me neither by the way me neither i had no idea what it was but i learned i learned it was trending it was trending yeah so again the other thing is two other points one i'm pretty sure that whether they watch it live or watch it back or watch the clips there are numerous members of the media, both our local beat writers,
Starting point is 00:55:46 because I think some of them live tweet or live social media this show from time to time, and national media members who watch the show. Not one of those people who have seen me and covered my career for a long time, not one of those people wrote an article that I had this condition called COVID toe, right? Not one person who can cover me forever.
Starting point is 00:56:10 And if they had had a question about it, what they would have done probably was call the Packers and talk to either Tom Fanning or Jason Wallers, Sarah Quick, Nate Lacascio, somebody and just said, hey, off the record, does Rogers have COVID toe? And I'm probably pretty sure they would have said, I don't know what you're talking about. So, yeah, you have zero beat writers, zero national media writing an article. You have the Wall Street Journal being opportunistic because of my non-vaccinated status and I've been in the news and trying to write this article. That's my opinion. The second part is I called out an individual who didn't write the article, but that's who that's the text that I saw from all the people in the morning.
Starting point is 00:56:58 And that's how I actually even saw the article. This person proceeded to, you know, take a couple, you know, pretty good shots at me about, you know, my own mental status and intelligence and personal decisions, definitely not without blame. And then went on to delete her tweets later and, you know, write a very, you know, self-affirming message about, you know, her workout status and donating to her, you know, her charity, which sounds like it's a phenomenal charity. But you are not blameless either. You tried to be opportunistic as well and jump on this train and slam me as well. So, look, you didn't write the article, but you decided to quote yourself in a tweet as well. Who? Who? I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Did you have you said the name yet publicly? Is it out? Yeah, I said I said her name. But again again let me just wrap this up they wrote an article that was totally false uh based on uh two words that i said back to back that you said as well even though i said you know also it was a bone issue and uh you know i was talking with uh with tom before press press conference he said he got an answer i said yeah i'm gonna pull my toe out he said he said really i was like yeah so little you can hear me as i walk in i'm like i don't know if there's gonna be enough room to get my foot out you know here as i'm sitting down in the you know in the zoom room and rob damaski asked me the first question and and uh we just kind of went down the line from there when it comes to memes, you either embrace them or they never go away.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And most of them probably don't ever go away anyway. So that's why. The first one that happened, I've been memed like crazy this year. Hey, you just got to embrace them. I got my chin strap up here. Oh, yeah. That's the background of my Twitter now. And, you know, Twitter doesn't allow you enough space there for the other picture.
Starting point is 00:59:04 But, you know, I got my toes in there for the other picture. Yeah, you did. You made it work. Thank you for that. AJ, go ahead. So what do you think happens now if Tom Fanning or Jason, before your next meeting with the media, they say, hey, there's a report out there. Someone just slandered you and said you have hemorrhoids. They may be worried about what might happen in that next meeting.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Are you going to address it the same fashion fashion i think is what aj's asking is that what you're asking do you want me to float it out there so you could do that he's the worst you're the absolute worst he's a journalist though hey journalist of the year saw a lot of people asking about that yeah i didn't see anybody but i guess that's what you can do nowadays. A source said, if you saw it somewhere on Twitter, which could be your own burner saying it, saw it on the internet and then say something,
Starting point is 00:59:51 is always something that can happen, which is the world we're in, and you are the target of a lot of this conversation because you are the current MVP, and your team is number one in the NFL right now. Yeah! You guys are number one, bro. Number one, man. Could you imagine when you were jumping off those waterfalls and all the things that were being said in the NFL right now, dude. You guys are number one, bro. Number one, man. Could you imagine when you were jumping off those waterfalls
Starting point is 01:00:06 and all the things that were being said in the offseason? You guys would be number one in the NFL after 12 weeks. Could you imagine that, Aaron? I could, but that's without going through the 12 weeks that we've had. I mean, it hasn't been a quiet 12 weeks. So I'm very happy with where we're at. Very happy to, you know, have gotten off to the start that we got off to. And happy that we've faced some adversity and we're moving through it or, you know, close to the other side of some of it.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I don't know. Omnicron, dude. Omnicron, bro. Omnicron, bro! Alright, anyways. Go ahead, Ty. Aaron, you told us last week about when the long sleeves come out, when the turtleneck comes out. You guys were somehow underdogs, but anyone in the know knew. I mean, you had it on
Starting point is 01:00:58 pregame. It was like, alright, ball game. We're going to win. But I said on Monday, it felt like watching it that it was like a playoff game. Do you ever get that mentality going to win. But like I said on Monday, it felt like watching it that it was like a playoff game. Do you ever get that like mentality going to these? I mean, obviously, you know how good you guys are. So, you know, every game is is kind of whatever. But like, does it ever you get that heightened sense like, OK, this is kind of like a playoff atmosphere like you get a little more juice?
Starting point is 01:01:20 Oh, yeah. I mean, especially November, December football and Lambeau. There's just I mean, you feel it. It's a playoff atmosphere. You know, these are the games that define the season. And it was an important one for us. Haven't been home underdogs in a while, it seems like. So, you know, that was obviously, you know, something that some of us knew about. But, yeah, playing a really good football team, coming off a bye,
Starting point is 01:01:51 coming off a couple losses, you know, we were going to get their best shot. We're coming off on hell with the division tightening up, a lot of playoff implications on the line. I will say this, and I'm not just saying this because i because i like you ty but i got to my locker you know i got i got to the stadium uh early to get some treatment and and do kind of the same routine every time put my jersey on my pads put my leg pads in and i looked at kind of tim ody puts a stack of kind of the clothes for the day in my locker and it was like you know my tights and a long sleeve and you know a little you know half sleeve
Starting point is 01:02:32 hat thing I wear to try and keep my hair back and then the turtleneck was in there hell yeah and I said Ty's gonna like this this. Let's go. That's awesome. Did you see his tweet as soon as there was a photo of you wearing that thing? He literally tweeted out. Ball game. He's in the fucking turtleneck. It is ball game.
Starting point is 01:02:53 It's real, though. It is something that, and you've addressed it, the cold weather gives you like a little twinkle in your eye. It doesn't affect you at all, it seems like. Now, obviously, I don't think you were perfect, but it did affect Stafford out of there. Do you think that's just because the defense is growing so much there in Green Bay, or what do you think it potentially was,
Starting point is 01:03:11 and why do you know? And I guess that was a perfect depiction. Like, home field advantage in the playoffs is massive. Massive with Lambeau. Is that potentially what got L.A. as well, you think? I don't know about that. I mean, I think that they had some turnovers on offense that got us going. And then we put together some pretty solid drives,
Starting point is 01:03:32 but they still scored a lot of points. Matt has never had a problem with Cole. I mean, I remember in 2011 when the other Matt was playing for us, Matt Flynn, started and played in Week 17, and he threw for 480 and six touchdowns, our Matt Flynn. People forget that Matt Stavrid set the record that day for Lambeau Field. He threw for like over 500 yards. And I think he had five touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:03:55 And we won like 45-41. You know, it was a wild, wild game. So I don't think Matt was affected by the cold at all. I mean, he still had, you know, I think three touchdown passes. But the cold is definitely an equalizer. I think it equalizes the playing surface. You see way more guys slipping on Lambeau Field in November, December, January. You see the ball sometimes a little harder to throw.
Starting point is 01:04:22 The wind is a factor. Kickoffs. You know, it feels like maybe the, you know, the kicking ball might get a little slipperier, a little more slippery. Hey, that ball was coming out. That ball was coming out a lot. Yeah, right? So, it is a great equalizer.
Starting point is 01:04:40 It's been good for us over the years. Obviously, it didn't work out last year in the NBA Championship, but hopefully we'd love another opportunity at that and i know that you're on your bye week you got things you got to do you have to get tested every day no because you had covet already right i still am on like maybe 69 70 days hey congrats there we go between 68 and 70 i think somewhere like you're like it's road distance yeah well enjoy the hell out of your bye week Between 68 and 70, I think. Somewhere. Somewhere. Like it's road distance, yeah. Well, enjoy the hell out of your bi-week, man.
Starting point is 01:05:09 We got you something. You got me something, but I'm not going to get it? Well, I mean, we'll enjoy it for you because you probably can't eat it because you don't eat milk or whatever. You got a birthday coming up, right? I do. 38 big ones. Is there 38 candles on there well there's only going to be two that's like because there's a lot of fucking candles there's no way i'm like all those things but uh happy birthday dude we definitely knew your birthday
Starting point is 01:05:34 was coming up before you said it and oh yeah didn't order this cake during this conversation and got it here because we are a great group of people and friends of yours we appreciate you so much man we'll ship you this cake. Would you like to let us give us a speech of anything you've learned here in your last 38 trips around the sun, pal? Oh, man. It was a really interesting year for me. A lot of great growth. I think in general,
Starting point is 01:06:08 I definitely learned over the last year who my people are and who my people aren't. And I'm thankful for all those people who are my people and have, you know, been so encouraging and supportive throughout the year, especially during the football season. So thankful to have people, you know, come out to the games and support me. And, you know, it's always fun to have guests during the season.
Starting point is 01:06:36 That's what you miss the most. I think during the COVID year was not seeing those regular people. Brian Bumgarner was one of them that came out to the game this week and sang. And his birthday was actually yesterday. Happy birthday! A couple candles for you too, pal. But life is all about relationships and cultivating the ones that I think bring you that life and that positivity and that joy. And I'm just thankful for those people who continue to show up for me and encourage me
Starting point is 01:07:12 and hold me accountable and breathe life and happiness and joy into my daily walk around this planet. I'm thankful for all you guys and for this weekly Tuesday thing we do and thankful for another year around the sun. Well, we're thankful for you, man. Happy birthday to you! Happy birthday to you!
Starting point is 01:07:36 Happy birthday, Garrett! Happy birthday to you! Make a wish, dude. Make a wish, dude. Go ahead. Yeah. Go, go. That's a better way. Happy birthday, dude. Still got it.
Starting point is 01:07:48 And I know, I assume the book club also go on a bye week here so we can catch up with the 17,000 pages you gave over the last two weeks of the book club, yeah? Yes. And actually, you know, that's my main goal. I've been gifted. I do want to say thank you to all the people that sent books, uh, again,
Starting point is 01:08:07 to send books out to the stadium. There's been, uh, so many that I've gotten no way I can even get to them with the stack that I've got. And also, uh, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:16 a good friend of mine, Joey just gave me a bunch of books to read. So I am going to get on a couple of books this week and hopefully get to read them. And the book club will be back and better than ever next week well we appreciate you man i'm gonna read all these books once again i think i'm gonna read them again oh yeah how about you aj you think about going through all of them you remember back when the outliers was the weekly reading that was self-scout we got
Starting point is 01:08:41 self-scout and reread them yeah and not just self-scout and reread them. Yeah. And not just self-scout and reread them, but maybe, you know, get excited for the big push ahead. That's right. Into the playoff book club. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Those books are going to have to be awesome. Enjoy your bye week.
Starting point is 01:08:58 You told me earlier, this is going to be the day you're going to sing our song. So I appreciate it. And that's how we'll send this whole thing off. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Oh, come on. Didn't get a goddamn strong. What was that? Today's show is presented by Arby's.
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Starting point is 01:11:08 AJ Hall. What's up, dude? What's up, guys? Actually, I got an early screener of that Kurt Warner movie. It's legit. Thank you. Me neither, because the boys acted as if they seen it. They had not. It doesn't come out until the summer. It looks like real NFL footage, too.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Especially if you look at the poster for the movie. It looks so real. Yeah, it looks like they spent every dollar they could to make sure that it was legitimate for how great Kurt Warner is. Jersey fits perfect. Uniform fits perfect just like NFL ones. I think they got that one actor guy.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Oh yeah, Zach Levi. The way he throws the football and holds the football. Please throw the ball. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, he drops shots back to pass. He's so mad. Was that real, or was he messing with us? No, he came out and told the story that something happened where he was bamboozled, basically.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I forget, because it was used a lot. And I would assume he gets buried in a lot of comments. Oh, you're the guy who can't throw the football at all. But that's kind of fucked up that he was, you know, why was he casted? Isn't that something you should think about? I mean, there's another hitch route from that show as well and let me just tell you what.
Starting point is 01:12:14 I didn't follow up past the gif. That's an actual show. Yeah, there's more from that show that is absolutely despicable. Wait, is that a football show? What's the show? I thought it was that show All Americans, football show. Is that what it's called? No, that's not it. Oh, that's not it? Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I have no idea. I know the football is not accurate there either. The guy said he was trying not to hit the camera, which was right in front of him. Regardless. We're not making fun of the camera, pal. We're talking about how the ball is getting out of your hand. Yeah. Fucking rip that thing up the sideline, up the scene.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Are you kidding me? What does it matter? Or just throw it. Just throw it and don't act like you're having a seizure a seizure during that drop back but also not everybody can throw the ball okay i know but if you're getting if you're being cast to play a quarterback which i assume that's what he was for that role don't you think a prerequisite should be he can throw a ball i'm not a fucking casting director but yes i would think that's what you would look for so but you're blaming him for signing up for the gig.
Starting point is 01:13:05 No, no, no. I'm blaming the people for signing him up. Okay, okay, okay. Me and you are both on the same side that they said. This is just like when somebody gets on TV to do a job that they're terrible at and we all bury said person. But we're like, somebody let them. Somebody. This.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Yeah, this poor guy. Can we play it? I mean, he looks pretty good there. What show is that from? That's the best he looks right there. By the way, not bad. You know, ball behind ear. Yeah, that's a really good... Elbow high. I mean, that thing looks good.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And then it all just goes to shit. No, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We just lost our business. Is it worth it, AJ? Is it worth it, AJ? They're going to pull us down for that? On the free form? Isn't that USA, which you're a part of? I am not a part of USA. I am not a part of
Starting point is 01:13:47 USA. Aren't they a part of the cock though? Well, I guess I'm kind of a part of the cock because once a month pay-per-views. Yeah, that's right. Definitely part of the cock. I mean, we are a part of 10-15 hours of programming for Peacock once a month I guess with those pay-per-views. But I believe Freeform
Starting point is 01:14:04 is part of the ABC family. Oh, we have no relationships there. once a month, I guess, with those pay-per-views. But I believe Freeform is part of the ABC family. Oh, we have no relationships there. Thanks a lot, AJ. Wrong program. Let's talk about wrong program. Thank you. Wrong organization, wrong program. Let's talk about last night.
Starting point is 01:14:14 You had it right. You picked the Washington football team, and although they had more poop water spilling from their stadium this time in the suites as opposed to the lawn area of the bleacher area they get a win uh over the seattle seahawks and russell wilson on his birthday in the nation's capital did not look great he talked about afterwards how they're you know currently at sea right now and they're fighting some big uh chop you know they're getting a lot of chop right now they're going uh moon um they're going starboard starboard and they're in the middle of some chop you know they're getting a lot of chop right now they're going uh moon um they're going star starboard and they're in the middle of some chop you know like the wolf of wall street was when he
Starting point is 01:14:51 was trying to get to switzerland from the caribbean i don't know how that whole thing even worked either have they ever explained how he made it that far no that is so far to think about but russell wilson and the Seahawks stink. And this comes after an offseason of turmoil in which his agent actually confirmed cities he'd be cool with going, although he never asked for a release. His team came out and said his offensive line stinks. The offense is this. He wants to be a top five player. He doesn't think he'll be remembered as a top five player.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Now they stink. Worst they've ever been with Russell Wilson. What does the future look like for them? And what do you think about the Washington football team currently in the playoffs if the NFL was to go into the postseason right now? I credit to Ron Rivera and what they're able to do, and Heineke as well. Washington, they're not a bad football team. They can put it together and play pretty well, I feel like.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Don't you? I think so. Heineke is the second coming of Fitzmagic. Might be better, might be more athletic as years continue to evolve as will the Fitzmagics of the world. Tyler Heineken's a player. Old Dominion, obviously he's good. Defense
Starting point is 01:15:55 makes some big plays that makes Russell Wilson not look good. The stats, the possession, the yardages, the first downs, the time of possession. Time of possession, crazy, right? 40 to 8, 42 to 18 or something crazy? They murdered the Seattle Seahawks. And Pete Carroll, he has come out and said he hates it,
Starting point is 01:16:13 doesn't like what's going on, we're going to turn it around. Russell Wilson's in the middle of the sea still. I don't know what it looks like going ahead for the Seattle Seahawks who had an offer of two first-rounders and something else this offseason from the Bears for Russell Wilson. This is crazy. And the Seahawks fans are going to get mad at us for even talking about this. But it does feel like we're looking at a new Seahawks next year.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Absolutely. I don't think. Does anyone feel confident that both Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll will be in Seattle next year? No. The Seahawks are going to attack us, dude. They attack us whenever we talk about this. Because they say the only time we talk about them is when it's bad news and i'm like well kind of accurate because you guys are so far left i have no idea what's over there you guys are way over there so
Starting point is 01:16:53 far away and if they're not at the top it's tough to talk and we apologize for that but that's a real thing that happens i've heard your city is beautiful but it is a lot of drama man especially when you stink this is what we're talking about with the Steelers when you stink the drama comes in bunches you know what I mean yeah it's like the little things they're not a problem until they become a problem and they become a problem when you start losing then all those little things that you feel like coaches nitpick on every day like they you're like oh okay that now I understand why I need to like our line should look good in warm-ups and why all these little things, they do kind of add up,
Starting point is 01:17:28 and great teams do the little things. But who's making the decisions there? Paul Allen, the owner, he had died, right? So I think his sister is running the team as the acting owner. Does she make the call? I know John Schneider is their GM. Can he make the call for Pete? How does that work?
Starting point is 01:17:42 Yeah, who's in charge of who? Yeah, I don't know. Is carroll the one that hired schneider i believe yeah schneider came in after because they so is this a gruden mayock situation where you don't know and would the i guess the allen family member that's in charge which once again terrible host don't know who it is but microsoft family right. They are a Microsoft family. They had great pool parties. Real good pool parties. So Bill Gates may have a lot of pull
Starting point is 01:18:12 in this decision. Well, Bill Gates has a lot of pull in a lot of decisions. When you create Microsoft, I mean, what are you going to do? But the Microsoft Allen family, a lot of money. They have the Seahawks, whoever. They would probably have to do it all. And who's going to give the okay to trade Russell Wilson? Is that Schneider or
Starting point is 01:18:27 is that the ownership? Because when you trade away your franchise, that's more of a franchise decision than a team decision, right? I don't know. That is big. Do you think they still get two first-round offers, though? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's going to be eight. Think about the Panthers. Think about the Panthers, what they're willing to do. They just paid Cam Newton
Starting point is 01:18:43 $10 million. They paid $65 million and three quarterbacks and have moved them. Think about the Panthers, what they're willing to do. They just paid Cam Newton $10 million. They paid $65 million in three quarterbacks and have moved them. Think about what they would try to do to get Russell Wilson in there. They know they got to go as the quarterback goes. What about the Saints? The Sean Payton, they showed his face right on TV immediately upon talking about Russell Wilson
Starting point is 01:19:00 and his agent saying he could go anywhere else. The Bears obviously have fields. The Broncos maybe. The Giants are a massive city. I mean, Miami? I mean, Miami, even though... Detroit? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:12 I don't think he's going to be there. First overall pick for us. Get it done right now. Probably going to Cleveland. Let's go. Let's look at those top 10 picks, by the way, because if the season was to end right now, there's a couple teams that if they did not fuck up the draft picks,
Starting point is 01:19:22 which we have no faith that they wouldn't, but if they did not fuck up their draft picks, which we have no faith that they wouldn't, but if they did not fuck up their draft picks, could completely turn around a couple pillars on their team. If the NFL was to end right now, and this is via Ari Mirov, the NFL draft order would be Lions at one, Texans at two, Jaguars at three. Shout out to two AFC South squads getting in the top three. Jets via the Seahawks, who would be at four overall. Then the Jets actual pick at five overall.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Giants, Giants, the second one via the Bears for the quarterback, Justin Fieldstreet. Eagles and then Eagles again from the Dolphins. And then the Panthers. So two picks for the Jets, two picks for the Giants, two picks for the Eagles, all within the top ten of the nfl draft where we're sitting right now but nobody has faith that any of those organizations aren't going to fuck it up right i mean not everybody knows that they're probably going to fuck it up because these names are always in this discussion whether it's after week 12 or after the regular season actually ends
Starting point is 01:20:18 it seems like in recent history and if you have two first round picks you would imagine there's going to be some teams try to trade up and get in there so some of those what the giants have to the eagles have to and the jets all have two picks in the top 10 and if we go back to the russell wilson conversation you look at the eagles if they're not 100 sold on jalen hertz they have two picks in the top 10 that they could potentially trade away for a russell wilson for in oh no Russell Wilson. Four in. Oh, no. Aaron. Nah. I don't think so. Aaron Rodgers? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:20:52 I'm just saying, there's a lot of draft capital there, but I think some teams maybe have enough self-awareness to know, we ain't gonna get it right. You know what I mean? So we can maybe make some moves here and do some things, but it would be very interesting to see how this all ends up. But for now, it looks like a couple franchises
Starting point is 01:21:08 could make big-time moves if they really wanted to. With the Seahawks, Pete Carroll is seven years old. You look around the division, Kyler, the Rams, the Niners are getting hot. There's no way he wants to do a rebuild. If Russ doesn't want to stay, Pete Carroll is probably going to leave anyways, right? I think Pete's going either way, don't you? He's going to Notre Dame. Notre Dame.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Maybe. Why not? Is Pete Carroll going to Notre Dame? Oklahoma. Herbs. They're talking Herbs to Notre Dame. Herbs is going right to the Notre Dame chop house in two years from now, for sure. I mean, he said in 2008, you would know more than us, 2008, the Ohio guy said his dream
Starting point is 01:21:42 job would be Notre Dame. That hasn't changed. Now, that's a long time ago, and we have no idea if this is an accurate quote because it gets quoted so much that people have actually stopped giving the credit to where it was actually quoted from. It's just like, no, he loves Notre Dame, he loves Notre Dame, he loves Notre Dame. I thought the Ohio guy would love Ohio State. And if you're in Jacksonville and life is terrible for you in the NFL
Starting point is 01:22:01 and you're Urban Meyer and your dream job allegedly from 2008 all of a sudden becomes open because Brian Kelly flies down to Baton Rouge and gets $95 million overnight while his team's still potentially in the college football playoffs and takes the job. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:22:15 7 a.m. meeting, everybody. Your life sucks because I made a decision. Everybody figure it out. I'm going to go ahead and do that. That's a business, I guess. What if Urban Meyer did go to Notre Dame? Wouldn't that be crazy? USC, everybody thought, not enough. Even though they're allegedly paying old buddy 110 fucking
Starting point is 01:22:29 million buying both of his houses private jet access right there's a limited private jet for his family 24 7 i'd be like really like you telling me unlimited because i might my kids may take a ride to school honestly in la you might need it too depending upon the traffic pat you know better than anybody you could run that bill up to 10 million in one year you could absolutely could but let's remember that the usc boosters they'll pay whatever to get their dumb kids into usc let alone the amount that they have to pay to get their team back into relevancy there There was nobody in that stadium for USC, UCLA. USC job was so big. Everybody was talking about who's going to go to USC,
Starting point is 01:23:09 who's going to go to USC. And me, as somebody that doesn't follow college football close enough, go, who gives a fuck who goes to USC? Like, who cares who goes? I guess the boosters are, you know, not happy that I potentially think that. A lot of people think that. The Pac-12 has kind of been dead since they've kind of been out of this whole thing so those boosters trying to take advantage of it all I love it I respect it I appreciate it but I'm sure the Oklahoma oil
Starting point is 01:23:33 people that have a lot of cake are about to make some runs at some people as well yeah they are in Notre Dame will be interesting I know Marcus Freeman they're talking about promoting him to become the next head coach Marcus is younger than younger than me. I played against him in high school. He's been the D coordinator this season. We'll see. Also, they're saying Luke Fickle possibly too. So you're telling me Luke and Marcus are both up for that? Freeman was the D.C. under Fickle before he went to
Starting point is 01:23:55 Cincinnati. He played for Luke. Marcus played for Luke at Ohio State. I think we met him whenever we did our trip to the Cincinnati training camp. He was really cool. I think full dap up. I think full dap up from him, right? Marcus is the man. Yeah, he's awesome. Yeah, yeah. I think, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:08 I would assume via through you, he felt as if we knew each other. I think I got full dap up. Then I saw the defense was crushing it. And I saw he got hired by Notre Dame. And then now the report's incredibly happy for him, by the way. Way to go. Way to go, dude. Do whatever you got to do.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Now the reports are that Brian Kelly's going to make him the highest paid defense coordinator at LSU if he goes down there. I didn't know that they were also thinking about him potentially being head coach. Good on him if he goes and gets it. Congrats to Notre Dame if they do that. But Luke Fickle, if he is to go to Notre Dame, wouldn't he say, hey, just stay where you're at.
Starting point is 01:24:38 We'll make you the highest paid fucking defense coordinator. Notre Dame Catholics got a lot of money too, right? I mean, isn't that something that could happen? Oh, yeah. I would imagine if Luke wants that Notre Dame job got a lot of money too, right? I mean, isn't that something that could happen? Oh yeah, I would imagine if Luke wants that Notre Dame job and they're coming after him, which I would imagine they would want Luke pretty bad. Have you sent him a text to see if he's going to go there or not?
Starting point is 01:24:54 No, I mean, Luke is a diehard Catholic guy. He went to Catholic high school, six kids, the whole situation. Oh my God, he's the perfect guy. Bring him in. But also, just a quick thing, him and Cincinnati are in talks to build like a, what, another $ guy. Bring him in. But also, just a quick thing, him and Cincinnati are in talks to build another $50 million indoor practice thing.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Desmond Ritter's graduating. I guess he's done. National TV every week. I believe you guys were talking about Notre Dame's first game next year. Against Ohio State. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Luke Fickle's going to Notre Dame, huh? Congrats, dude. Sorry, Cincinnati. Hey, Cincinnati, it was awesome. You didn't deserve any of the shit that happened. Can they offer $100 million, though, like the other coaches? Who, Notre Dame or Cincinnati? Notre Dame.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Will Notre Dame do that? I know they have plenty of rich boosters, but is that something that they would do? Oh, you're talking their arrogance. You're getting to coach at Notre Dame, you're saying. I would guess they would offer Urban $100 million. Urban fucking Meyer right now? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:49 I mean, granted, we know it's a Catholic institution, but they don't really give a shit about moral character or anything. I mean, they hired Brian Kelly, killed a kid. So they can look past Urban's past transgressions. They can get over those. Hey, come on home, Herbs. Now, by the way, I mean. Urban didn't kill anybody that we know about.
Starting point is 01:26:07 No, no, no. That we know about. They probably have a little... Exactly. They probably have a restaurant leased out already that he can build a new chop house. And he would want to get out of Jacksonville, I guess. Well, he said today, hey, I'm not leaving the NFL for college.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Zito, what'd you say? You were about to say something? No, nothing for me. Zito had a look where he was about to come in. Aaron Hernandez. Oh, jeez. What is that about? Herbs didn't pull the trigger.
Starting point is 01:26:35 They're saying he did bring a loaded gun into town, though. Let's go to... Some of these NFL coaches might have to look at these college gigs and they see they're getting nine-year deals guaranteed for $100 million. Yeah, but you've got to work all year round. Maybe Pete Carroll does go back to college, but he's 70-something years. And maybe he doesn't. I guess Ike Taylor told us that if Tomlin was to go to USC,
Starting point is 01:26:58 and I think Ike Taylor said $100 million would be tough to say no. And I didn't know if he had talked to Mike Tomlin or not, although we know he and Mike Tomlin are tight and still get along just like tomlin is with ryan clark and all the alumni who he is speaking up for who have been speaking out against the current pittsburgh steelers team which is very interesting i taylor said there has to be a check out there they can maybe go 100 million dollar offers being made to people or in teams that no expectation of winning as long as saban's still coaching, right? As long as Saban's still going, as long as Ohio State's still going,
Starting point is 01:27:28 you're just trying to get in the conversation so your school can at least be talked about in relevancy. It is interesting. I mean, James Franklin, he got 90-some million, didn't he? Yeah. He stinks. 100 with incentives. I mean, they're going to go, what, six and five this year?
Starting point is 01:27:42 They stink. And Oklahoma's going to the SEC? I assume they're not thinking, hey, when you switch conferences, you've got to be at the top. How about Deion Sanders? Deion Sanders may be Oklahoma? Ooh. Yeah, why not? Yeah. If he holds out a little bit longer,
Starting point is 01:27:57 Florida State's going to shit-can Norvell. Does he want to go to Florida State, though? They said no the first time. Yeah, they got no money. Yeah, they did, but, I mean, going back home. Oklahoma's got all that oil money. Imagine. Oklahoma going to the SEC had to be a big reason.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Lincoln Riley's like, hey, I'll go play in the Pac-12. We'll see him recruit all this in-state talent. Oh, yeah. And hey, listen, my offense crushes against bad schools' defenses. Wait till you see what we're about to do in the Pac-12. Then we're going to get into playoffs. Guess what? Motorboated.
Starting point is 01:28:23 But we'll still be able to talk about being in the playoffs. Hey, we'll get a chance to travel to the playoff every single year. That was what we did. I think he's already flipped like six of his top recruits too. Like they just decommitted from Oklahoma. They're going to SC now. Yeah, Rattler's transferring. You think Rattler will try to go out there?
Starting point is 01:28:37 I don't think so, no. Maybe he'll try and Lincoln will be like, ah, we did this in Norman. I don't know if we need to do this again. What are you doing here? You're kind of stunk. Remember, we put you a freshman in. I think he's probably going to hit the transfer portal. Caleb Williams is going to hit the transfer portal.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Hey, remember everything we were talking about here in Oklahoma? It was awesome. Like the fans and everything. Now just pick it up and kind of go to LA. And we got boosters giving you guys. Wait till you see these fucking apartments. Yeah. Snoop Dogg's going to be at practice.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Do you guys like looking at the ocean and stuff like that? Yeah, we got views over these cliffs over there. Now, you're going to have to work. Hey, we're still going to have to work. Of course. But we can just pick this up and just go ahead and drop it in Los Angeles. That's basically what these fuckers are telling me. I heard Lincoln was running scared once he saw Billy Napier heading down to Gainesville.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Hey, congrats to Billy Napier. Good work, Billy. Billy, Billy. Hey, we had Maulin on and Napier on. Mollin out, right? Yeah. To Florida. He did not have that great of a run.
Starting point is 01:29:30 But once again, nobody's going to have that great of a run if Nick Saban is still in town. I don't know. I don't know how. Still can't. There's like four or five games, though. Why don't you get into college football, Coach? Ooh, yes. Told you.
Starting point is 01:29:42 I'm not very good at it, and I don't have much passion for it. I could not imagine giving a fuck what a 17 year old decides to do. You know what I mean? I thought about that, like going in. Hey, we need you on it. We don't like, you know, it is hard for me to go and want to sell a kid who doesn't know shit about fuck, doesn't know anything about anything. Thinking they do, obviously, because they're incredible. I couldn't even imagine like if I was one of these top recruits what i would have been like i would have been a fucking asshole i would have been impossible to deal with but these coaches have to act like they care i don't i i come or don't all right see you later and they probably wouldn't come by the way and that is why i don't
Starting point is 01:30:20 think i'd ever be able to do college football coaching well Well, you would do that for probably like the first year. And then you're like, man, why am I only getting like these one and two star dudes? Not like the biggest school there is. And then you win like two games your first year. And then next thing you know, you're dancing in living rooms. No, no, I ain't no dancing monkey. Is Rich Rod dancing in living rooms? Well, to be honest, the way they recruited me, they just walked into the lunchroom and said,
Starting point is 01:30:45 hey, you don't want to go to Kent State, really, right? No? All right, you want to come down to West Virginia? It's an hour and a half away from here. You have partied there before with a lot of your friends that have gone there. It's a great time, and we're in the Big East. It's Big East football. You want to come down? Yeah? Yeah, I do. All right. Sure. All right, that's what I'm going to do. I'll call Kent State now.
Starting point is 01:31:01 They're not going to be happy. And they weren't. They weren't. But then I went over to a high school basketball game and cheered on the plum high school Mustangs. Got over it real quick. That's a shame. But you're right. I wasn't highly recruited.
Starting point is 01:31:13 I assume you, though, did they come? What were they doing? Holding up A.J. Hawk signs and hats and stuff like that over there at Centerville? No, they were not. They didn't have to recruit me hard. You know, Ohio State, they probably had a sense too from speaking to me once or twice, like, hey, if we offer this kid, he's going to run
Starting point is 01:31:29 to campus. So we don't have to work at all. This kid is literally the picture of Ohio. Wait till you see him. His jawline is like the most Ohio thing you've ever seen. His neck, they have to give him triple XL pads because of how big his neck is. His torso, nowhere near the
Starting point is 01:31:45 size of what his neck requires in the pad department this dude is gonna be if he runs fucking four four there's no way that killed Kirk Herbstreit he has eight pet piranhas yeah okay this guy he is he is the Ohio guy talks to the fish we We tell him, hey, preferred walk-on. He's running. We don't even listen. You got Joe Paterno doing dances in his goddamn living room. Hey, come to Penn State. We'll take care of your kids. You know what Joe-pa is saying, and they're doing all the dance.
Starting point is 01:32:16 And AJ, get the fuck out of town. All right? I saw an AJ Hawk mural in a restaurant. This weekend, yeah. I saw somebody posted a picture of a mural of you in high school, you in college. I think that photo right there was actually painted on a wall in Centerville. Unbelievable. Freshman year right there, like 150 pounds.
Starting point is 01:32:33 With the biggest neck in town. Yeah. No, biggest shoulder pads in town. You got a sandwich named after you, Becker? No, not that I know of. Well, it'd be the Hawk Burger. Hawk Burger. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:44 This one might give you wings. There's some meatloafs named after me. Hawkloaf? He loves meatloaf. I forgot about that. A lot of ketchup. Meatloaf stinks. No, it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:32:56 I know we got into this whole thing the other day. It does not stink. You cannot like mashed potatoes and not like meatloaf. I don't know. I saw a lot of mashed potatoes. You can do whatever you want. You're allowed to like whatever you want, man. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Shut up, AJ. You are. You don't have to like something because, oh, it goes with mashed potatoes. No. No, I agree. And I'll mix a lot of different genres of food with each other. This is a big rock and roll show. I saw a clip.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Oh, man. What happened? What in the world what was i did not know we had that beat on deck to be honest i did not know that that is what was coming you know what i mean i did not out of break yeah yeah fresh out of the break somebody awesome talk sports and rock yeah banger it's actually pretty good I got going then I stopped and I tried to get back in because I wanted to play an instrument in the band and we didn't get going as well
Starting point is 01:33:50 as I thought we were going to but we did think about what you say often like if somebody had just tuned in and that was their first dose of it we're never going to get them back somebody's going to tell them one time that we're a good show and I tried them I tried them one time it was a a good show in there. I tried them one time.
Starting point is 01:34:05 It was a rock concert was going on. It's unbelievable. What are we talking to Aaron Rodgers about today? His toe, bye week? What do you think? Yeah, I guess how he – so they said he's not getting surgery, right? Correct. By the way, he said that kind of last Tuesday that he was not going to get surgery
Starting point is 01:34:20 because surgery would require some off time. He said that's one thing that's not an option. He's already played on it three weeks though right or two weeks yeah now he's gonna buy a week and they talked about shooting him up i guess and there was uh the internet what became alive you know whenever he allowed uh a shot for that and i think um it's not i'm sure it's lidocaine it's not it's not toradol i'm sure it's lidocaine well lidocaine i'm excited to hear his answer to that shot as opposed to another shot that potentially got talked about a little bit about him because Joe Buck did, did say that Aaron's toe had been immunized, you know?
Starting point is 01:34:52 So Joe Buck and Joe are their boys though. Like they're tight. Well, Joe did not miss the moment. You know, Joe, I don't know what you're saying. Are they, I mean, they're boys. I'm saying, I don't think Aaron's mad at him for that. No, no, he shouldn't be. By the way, it was a great joke. that was a that was a great like i don't think aaron i think aaron would respect the joke it was properly timed i thought but with that being said it also generated and garnered a lot of yeah yeah what what was that all about what's that all joe and joy are not afraid to take shots at people that is they're the best they're the best they're
Starting point is 01:35:23 the most podcast like coverage of a game they most podcast-like coverage of a game. They're the most casual coverage of a game, and I enjoy it. I enjoy Joe and Troy a lot. I guess that's big NFC, right? They're big NFC? Yeah, always. They do a ton of Packer games. They have for a while now. I don't think I got to meet them much when I was playing.
Starting point is 01:35:39 I don't think they did a lot of AFC games. That's normally, well, that's now Romo. You'd have Tony games. Oh, yeah, Romo would have been a walkthrough. He used to be Nance and Sims. That would have been awesome. They get the game of the week. I used to see them when we'd walk off Saturday, you know, the walkthrough. You'd have the little crew would be there watching the walkthrough or whatever.
Starting point is 01:35:55 And I got nothing to do during that. I mean, I jog on the field, I guess, and I jog off and sit there for an hour and a half. My work's already done. The hay is in the barn. Sure. So then i would just stare and judge the tv people and see what they were doing what they were watching there were some crews that had real diligent notes and real conversations and there was other crews that
Starting point is 01:36:13 just had no idea why they were there i think that's an interesting thing i think i would want more information going in right yeah for sure oh yeah like joe and troy would always come watch practice on friday and they would watch, and they'd have the roster and their little notes they're taking. And Troy was talking. Because he's Troy Aikman, he's a Hall of Famer, he can kind of do what he wants. And he could go and talk to coaches he knows
Starting point is 01:36:35 and kind of say hi to players, why it's going on. And he would always watch. We'd always do a little two-minute thing on Friday. I think he would always want to watch that, see what it looked like offensively, defensively. Yeah, those good crews come in. They actually get some real info. See, I think that's always want to watch that, see what it looked like offensively, defensively. Yeah, those good crews come in. They actually get some real info. See, I think that's required to calling NFL games.
Starting point is 01:36:50 You know? It should. I mean, that's why they always say, when we talked to Aaron Rodgers yesterday, he said the Toe's feeling great. Like, they always come back to, like, their meetings together. Yeah, but it's a time-consuming thing, I think. And it is.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Think about it. Those guys get there on friday afternoon for a sunday game that's what i'm like what are you guys gonna do the rest of your time and if they're not flying private they're maybe usually they are usually not the majority of them are not so they're layover at least sunday into monday you're back on monday that is for 18 weeks or whatever it's that is that's what i think i learned that one year when I did those college football games on Thursday. I'm like, man, this is a lot of time to do a very little amount of actual work. And also, all this research that is being done, 4% of it gets used.
Starting point is 01:37:36 What are we doing here? Now, granted, it's much different than the NFL, what I was calling, because I didn't know anybody's names. I had no idea anybody's names. I couldn't even guess what they were potentially playing for but I try to give my best effort you know I try to give my best effort but the time is amazing I think we should give a little bit more props to the crews for that well and then she like Adam Amin was one of those guys who was like ultra prepared like
Starting point is 01:37:59 made sure that you could kind of just go in there and like do your own thing and and didn't have to worry about it and I assume with the NFL, it's probably easier, right? Is it easier in the NFL? You know the teams. You know the guys, yeah. I think just because there's less teams, there's less players, there's less turnover. And you could call NFL games right now.
Starting point is 01:38:16 If anyone's a decent fan of the NFL, you could watch a game up in the booth. You may not be good, but you would know a lot of the players. If you do a random college game, you're not going to know a whole lot of guys. Man, I said, old buddy 18 just made a hell of a play. That's like TV 101. Please use the names. They have these sheets that they make.
Starting point is 01:38:36 And there's this person. Your boards, yeah. It's got the two and three deep. Still emailing me. This guy. Get me out of here. I didn't sign up for the email. I don't want to be in the email. Hasselbeck signed me up for the email. Oh, the guy that builds your board? That would want to build your board? He didn't build my board.
Starting point is 01:38:49 Zito built my board. Me and Zito build my board every single week because other people's boards, it makes sense, but that is one particular way. I needed something to be set up a little bit different with the way my brain operates. And then inevitably, we're not using a board anymore. I don't even...
Starting point is 01:39:04 But I still get the email every week from this guy who builds the boards i guess his boards are the greatest boards of all time but they're holding it got all the names adam amin the amount of research in his brain and the amount of oh it was unbelievable to watch and i never ever gave enough credit i think to anybody but joe and troy crush it yeah joe and troy crush it uh last night your thoughts on uh uh no manning cast? You know, we watched the Monday Night Football broadcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:27 I thought it went pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah. I thought it was good. Solid. Solid game. Solid crew.
Starting point is 01:39:34 It does feel like we're missing something, not having the option to switch over to the Manning cast, though. So next Monday, you know, it's a huge game, right? Massive. It's Bill's Pats. Monday Night Football, Manning castning cast okay i don't know what to do i don't know if i because if i record the manning cast i'll still get the stories in the intel in the enjoyment but it's hard for me to pay attention to the game as much yes whenever
Starting point is 01:39:57 the manning cast is happening because i'm i'm getting distracted by some story or some whatever reaction right yeah not that it's a bad. I've enjoyed the hell out of it. I've learned a lot. But the Bills-Pats, massive game. Yeah. Maybe only like two guests for that one, and we actually watch the game and break down the game. Yeah, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:40:13 But it appears as if four guests, one guest a quarter, is kind of just in the playbook and tried and true in what they're going to do every week. Pay no adapt. Pay no adapt and adjust. Omaha, Omaha, Omaha. I hope so, because maybe he audibles into no-guess and they just kind of watch the game themselves.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Bill's pass game would be awesome to see. They should try one like that. Okay, we're going to try something here, guys. We're going to try just me and Eli. And this will be a good game to do it because I assume Peyton knows a lot of the Mac Jones offense and why he's making decisions that he's making. And I think Josh Allen is another one that they know a lot about. He came on the Manning Passing
Starting point is 01:40:47 Academy. This will be a good one, but that's a big time Monday Night Football game. Last night's game was just... I was told this morning craziest game in the history of football. Wait, excuse me? Who the hell said that? I think Greeny was fucking with everybody.
Starting point is 01:41:04 How it ended the first half was a little wild. Not just the first half, but also the onside kick, then the lineup being. The kicker popping his hammy and that whole thing. Okay, now they've got to go for Joe. Joe Sly was never going to catch that guy, but on film he wanted it to be known that he was giving his best. He was moving.
Starting point is 01:41:21 He was rolling. He's got massive legs, very explosive, athlete of a guy, only running because he wanted to film the show that he was running he's trying and then he blew out his fucking hammy in the middle and then a lot of people talk about how can the putter not kick we've gone over this if you listen and watch this show it's a bat baseball bat versus golf some people just haven't done both some people can't do both some punters have only punted some punters have grown up in a country where literally punting is how you throw the ball back and forth to each other so kicking a ball off the ground is a much different motion although i was lucky enough
Starting point is 01:41:55 to be able to do both and there are others that can easily do both not easily at an elite level but can transition there's a lot of guys that can't and that gets displayed i think like three four times a year last night joey sly getting a sniper on the hammy is another one of them and i mean it was early too it was to the point where like that was a close game and it was like oh shit they're not gonna have they're they don't even have the option to kick a field goal like they're gonna have to go for every fourth down if they do score again you know like a field goal in that game when did the commentators talk about that when did they because right when that happened like okay i i think my my eight-year-old was like so who's gonna kick now dad and it's like they don't there's no way they have a backup kicker i said
Starting point is 01:42:31 i don't know if someone else is serviceable to kick extra points but they're gonna have to go for two like when did they bring that up on the broadcast i don't think it was until they came back from half okay they didn't mention it in the end of the first half i don't think and then started to talk about it in the third quarter. So certainly something to talk about immediately upon it happening, but I assume you don't approach the subject until you're almost getting fucked over by the situation that had happened in the sniper hamstring.
Starting point is 01:42:55 But it's not always just the punter. I've seen guys that weren't kickers or punters that can actually kick a ball. Chad Johnson. Didn't Chad make one for WNBA? And Dominick and Sue. Chad Johnson bombs balls. I mean, there is some guys that can just pick it ball. Chad Johnson. Didn't Chad make one for WNBA? And Dominick and Sue. Chad Johnson bombs balls. I mean, there is some guys that can just pick it up.
Starting point is 01:43:09 OBJ can do it too. OBJ. I saw OBJ at the Pro Bowl literally right in front of me spin a ball and blast like a 48-yarder. I'm like, I don't think I can make that. I don't know how the hell that happened. Now, could he do it from a standstill in 1.25 seconds while everything's moving? That's a whole different game.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I assume Odell Beckham Jr. could do it. Chad proved he could do it. I think Indomitian Sioux proved he could do it. But it's not always just the punter that could do it. It's quite a weapon if you're a guy who can actually kick a ball. It's like wide receivers that can throw the shit out of a ball. Like, oh, this is a massive weapon here. There's some incredible athletes there.
Starting point is 01:43:46 But have you ever popped your hammy like that before, Sniper? I never have. I've been lucky not to do a hammy like that. The only thing I popped is my calf like that. Did you go down? No. You can see it on film. I was in my little stance.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Ball snapped. I went to push off, and I turned. I looked behind me. I thought someone kicked me. That's what they always say. That's what they always say about Achilles in a calf, right? If it sounds like and feels like somebody kicked you in the back of the leg. O.J. Howard.
Starting point is 01:44:12 O.J. Howard said to pop. There's a sound. It felt like he got kicked because he was mic'd up, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never got the sniper on the hammy. It's not great. It looks scary. It looks painful. I can't touch my toes, too, so I don't know how that hasn't happened that's probably good well some guys definitely overstretch i think well see i had a couple friends got into yoga and then the next year they blew out muscles like and just a couple this is my experience okay i'm not saying this is how everybody's different you're right everybody's
Starting point is 01:44:37 different you're right but yeah 100 one thing just because this works for this person doesn't mean it's going to work for that person bingo and there's been yoga that has saved people's careers i know mike pops adams played in the secondary for like 18 the bickram guy saved a lot of people right well the hot yoga was definitely something that i think in in theory was great until it was abused into a sex cult yeah which is what you were just referring to yeah you said the bickram guy was turned his his concept i've done warm yoga and it was not a sex cult no it was hot yoga you did it warm yoga is just a door closed hot yoga is when they're pumping actual heat in there it's like 100 degrees and you're dying have you ever actually done i've done that but but not the bickering i've done the bickering style way back
Starting point is 01:45:11 in the day i've done now like the yoga i've done that's still hot and fast pace but it's not bickering well i think it all kind of stems from the bickering tree right but this one is not but yeah you can keep going well the bickering name they've tried to get rid of that because he did turn it into a sex cult where he was calling people up to his hot yoga room and then forcefully fucking them. Bingo. He's a bad guy.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Bad guy. Terrible person. Very bad guy. But he was incredibly powerful, I guess, over in India, and then he brought his yoga into America, and then it became a big deal, and he abused that power. And something can't happen. I did one hot yoga.
Starting point is 01:45:43 I almost puked and quit halfway through. It was too hot, sweating too much, couldn't touch my toes. Just trying to survive, right? Like, I remember when I did Bikram back in college. I'm like, I'm just going to lay here and try not to leave the room. Yep. I did leave. Did you not?
Starting point is 01:45:54 I didn't leave the room, but no. I would do one thing, and I'd have to lay on my back and die for 15 minutes. I didn't know anybody in there or anything. I decided. I'd be frozen water, too. If that was my team, if that was anybody I knew, I would have stuck it out. I would have been like, alright, I'll die in here with you. I didn't know anybody in there.
Starting point is 01:46:09 I owed nobody nothing. And it felt like they were judging me because I couldn't touch my toes. I'm fucking out of here. Please don't open the door. Obviously, it's like opening an oven. Please don't. I'm going to die. Open the door. Shut the door. I don't think they got back to the proper temperature for a good three to four minutes.
Starting point is 01:46:25 So I was a bad guy. They did worry about me on the outside because I was still laid out. I was laid out on the outside. As the class ended, they came out and asked about me, but I was not a fan favorite in there. What do you want me to do? I almost fucking died, dude.
Starting point is 01:46:37 What do you want me to do? You're a warrior, man. I'm glad you didn't die. Well, nobody told me to drink like triple the amount of water. Yeah, if you don't drink a gallon of water before. I don't like the structure like they do the same poses and they tell you when you can drink water it's like wait and they told me when i could breathe too like get the fuck over it dude i don't want to breathe heavy right now all right i'm trying to breathe quick and slow because i'm trying not to die oh you need to take a deep breath i can't the air's too thick it's 150
Starting point is 01:47:01 degrees true it's so true yeah and i'm hung over obviously what are we even doing and i'm just sweating and i do your power pose i'm like i don't know is this advanced can we get to the fucking i have no power i'm getting out of here you can't oh i'm trapped now i'm a hostage this place stinks what'd you wear do you wear a speedo no i had uh i had sweet tights on tights with shorts on every top with the tank top i made sure the fit looked good i knew what i was i mean i was signed up for this from somebody else who's a great athlete you know and he was in there with me but he made it out and i did not and as we were driving in there he was explaining to me what i signed up for i thought this was just going to be a little feel
Starting point is 01:47:40 good stretch you know what i mean like how you doing keep it moving let's do this and then it wasn't until we were in the car where it's like you're going into a torture chamber i'm like fucking hey what is this all about and he was professional athlete so this is a high level like this is a high level one and they welcomed me in there early but that turned i mean it was i was holding people up there were some motherfuckers dressed like assholes in there though i doubt it oh my god oh they're almost like guys almost naked in there, aren't they? Yeah, there was a dude
Starting point is 01:48:06 doing a full power warrior thing with his, I mean he was wearing like those cross country shorts. Like Travolta in that dancing movie? Hairspray? No.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Saturday Night Fever? Greece? Saturday Night Fever. Greece is a barrier, huh? You've seen Travolta. He fucking moves. What's Travolta doing in that movie? He like moves his hips.
Starting point is 01:48:22 The cowboy movie? Nah, you'll see it. Urban Cowboy? How about Michael? That's a good Travolta movie. Classic moves his hips. The cowboy movie? Nah, you'll see it. Urban Cowboy? How about Michael? That's a good Travolta movie. Classic Michael. How about Phenomenal? Good and dangerous.
Starting point is 01:48:31 Yeah. Travolta's been there, huh? Oh, yeah. Gotti did not get the reviews that I think he expected. Gotti might be his best work today. Gotti's legit. Hey, the Gotti story is one. If I didn't know it already through and through
Starting point is 01:48:43 and I didn't learn anything new from that movie, I think that's why I necessarily didn't like it. But that was like six years in the making, too, then. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Took him a long time. That was his swan song. Yeah, it was his passion project.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Now he's Santa Claus. Really? Wait, what? John Travolta's Santa Claus now, Capital One. I haven't seen that yet. Me neither. Oh, spoiler. He's a good Santa.
Starting point is 01:49:02 Nice. Good. You know what I mean? Let's go. Hey, is Mo Santa still a thing? You would know. You got kids. Is's a good Santa. Nice. Good. You know what I mean? Let's go. Hey, is mall Santa still a thing? You would know. You got kids. Is this happening?
Starting point is 01:49:08 Are people still taking photos with old men? Saw one last week. Yeah, I'm sure it is. That needs to die. What? That needs to die. No, it's the holidays. No, no.
Starting point is 01:49:18 Have your uncle or your dad dress up as Santa and do it that way. Stop going to malls. Oh, isn't that nice? Isn't that just so nice? Stop going to malls and sitting on random people. No, I think this is something that should continue. I saw one actually this morning that was very messed up. Oh, it was a bad looking Santa.
Starting point is 01:49:34 No, it wasn't like that. He made a very disrespectful comment about a kid who was asking him for a present. Is this a movie? No, this is real. Is this on the internet? Yeah, this is on the internet. So you didn't see it in real life.
Starting point is 01:49:45 You saw it on the internet. But it did happen. But it did happen, yes. Between a Santa Claus, a kid, and the kid's mother. He wasn't Holly Jolly? He wasn't Holly Jolly.
Starting point is 01:49:54 He was actually a piece of shit, terrible person. Like Bikram? Not like Bikram, but he... Because Bikram, you know, that guy's climbing the ladder
Starting point is 01:50:02 when it comes to pieces of shit. This guy's definitely on the trajectory. Yes. They paid $15 to sit with that asshole. Yeah, he definitely got fired after this as well. Oh, did he? No, because some of the Santas kind of disguise. Yeah, no, he definitely got canned.
Starting point is 01:50:18 I haven't seen the video you're speaking of, but I'm happy that's Santas. Hopefully they do background checks on those guys. No way. Those guys are getting paid in SIGs and 40s. They don't care. Are you willing to do this job? Yes. Perfect. You're sitting here for nine hours. They have to, though.
Starting point is 01:50:35 You would hope, I guess, because there's so many you're literally inviting children to this thing and to sit on his lap. And there's a Santa community, I think, out there that is really high. but i hope they don't you know you would assume some scumbags slip through the cracks like the one that you saw most of them do it just to plan like a heist or something while they're working which by the way if it works go ahead and do what you gotta do yeah i think paul blart yeah i think think Paul Blart had to deal with Santa Claus.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Home Alone. Home Alone had a... And then Elf. Elf had one as well. You're not Santa. Four Christmases. We should make a Christmas... Movie?
Starting point is 01:51:15 Movie. Hell yeah. Here we go. Yeah, Foxy. They're always great. Yeah, Foxy. I love Christmas. I agree.
Starting point is 01:51:20 All of them are good, you know, because everybody kind of takes a shot at that because you know it'll play every single year. Yeah, if it hits. If it hits, it hits. If not, though, it'll be forgotten about like the other 10 million holiday movies that are created. And I think, what, Freeform runs them all, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:34 It is Freeform season. It is Freeform season. As soon as December hits, which is what? Tomorrow? Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Man, I can't wait to watch the Grinch and the Santa Claus.
Starting point is 01:51:47 They used to be ABC Family, but Freeform stole it. Like the Grinch. Oh, the Grinch stole Christmas. I wish I had that. That's our best. The Grinch with Jim Carrey? Oh yeah, by the way, the 25% off sale is ending tomorrow at 12.30 Eastern.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Wow. P.M. 12.30 Eastern. Wow. PM. Okay. 1230 PM Eastern. 25% off. The Santa, the Grinch, I'm going to fuck this up with the WFL. That's my favorite one. That's a good one. Dirty Drew, that thing. So Dirty Drew, a lot of our shirts,
Starting point is 01:52:18 it took, hey, things went to a, you know what I mean? I mean, next level. There it is. That's what I was talking about. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes. The fact that you allow us to be a part of your day-to-day, we are so incredibly grateful for it.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Thank you to all the boys for their incredible effort. Thank you to Aaron for his time. Thank you to AJ. Thank you to the internet for allowing this to happen. Shout out to the internet. Don't do that nearly enough. Thank all of you, man. Have an incredible Tuesday.
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