The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 553 - Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Week 13 & Monday Night Football Recap With AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 7, 2021

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night's Monday Night Football game between the Patriots and Bills and the accompanying Manning Cast, how the Patriots only threw three times and still won, a dominant win for Bill Belichick, if we should be worried about the Bills at this point in the season, and all the other news stories floating around the NFL as we finish week 13 and look ahead to week 14. Joining the program as he does every Tuesday, is the reigning NFL MVP, Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Pat, Aaron, and AJ chat about his bye week, the 2nd opinion he got on his toe from a doctor in California, what it's like playing in one of those windy games like last night in Buffalo, what he did during his birthday week, if any of the injured Packers are going to return from injury this week, if he actually needs practice at this point, what the next book in the book club is, and much more (24:45-1:00:06). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, December 7th, 2021. Can't thank you enough for joining us. All the boys are here. AJ's here as toxic as ever. And if you enjoy the show by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Let's get to it.

Big show today. Hello, beautiful people. It is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, December 7th, 2021. Less than 12 hours removed from the most electric football game of all time. Can't thank you enough for watching wherever the hell you are at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. It's a beautiful Tuesday. It's a glorious Tuesday.

We'll be talking to Aaron Rodgers in a couple hours. AJ Hawk will join us. The boys are here at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt. The hammer died. Cowboy. Tone Diggs is here alongside Gump and all the boys in the back. We can't thank you enough for joining us every single day throughout this glorious NFL season. Who would have thought just, you know, 10 weeks ago that the New England Patriots would be a team that would be in a conversation of,

Holy shit, this team is all of a sudden hotter than everybody else. And who would have thought in the year 2021, with the way NFL offenses go and NFL rules are, that we would have taken it back to 1945 Navy Citadel in Bill Belichick's eyes in words. Last night was so ridiculous. You had to watch because it was a comedy of theirs. Waking up in the morning as a punter and seeing those flags do what those flags were doing would be an

absolute nightmare and it's an anxiety that i no longer have to have and i am very very thankful for that now lucas oil stadium would have been closed for that one so it would have been absolutely beautiful and there is a conversation to be had about maybe we put a dome over every fucking state there's a conversation to be had i'm not going to be a part of it 70 and sunny every single day who's the best team let's find out let's not let mother nature figure it out maybe that is a part of the game though and maybe those types of matchups and outside adversities and those hurdles to get over is all a part of football so although as a punter and kicker enthusiast fan and used to be one having a dome would be much better for our jobs I do believe you get a chance to showcase your big ass brain whenever a situation like last night occurs 30 mile anmile-an-hour winds, 40-mile-an-hour winds, 25-mile-an-hour winds,

gusting from one end zone straight down to the other. So punters had to punt directly into it. Kickers had to kick directly into it or completely with it. Tyler Big Ball Bass hit a kickoff 200 yards. Then Jake Bailey, one of the biggest legs in football, wearing Fur the Brand cleats. I appreciate you for doing that, Jake. Very, very nice of you for your cleats, your cause to do that.

He hit one 20 yards. I don't even know how he did that, by the way. I have no idea how he was able to even do that. Before, as I would have been jogging out onto that field to punt those first couple for the Patriots, I would have been like, oh, my career's over. Okay, here we go. I am hitting a ball out of bounds right now. It's going to go five yards.

They're going to score a touchdown. Guess whose fault it's going to be? Oh, it's the punter's fault. And everybody will say, yeah, we did it. There's 30-mile-an-hour wins, but fucking do your job. So there's that entire thing. Jake Bailey comes back, hits a 71-yarder the other direction. It was just a night that we had no idea what to expect

other than Bill Belichick was probably going to end up winning that type of game. That feels like a night, a situation where Bill Belichick was even telling everybody before the game what type of game this is going to be. Hey, we're running fucking par-eye. We are running the ball. We're running the triple option. We are taking this thing old school. Mac Jones throws the ball three times in the entire game. Everybody's up in arms.

Because now Mac Jones doesn't deserve credit for the win. Mac Jones isn't as good as everybody says he is. Whenever we're talking about Offensive Rookie of the Year, Mac Jones better not be in a conversation because they won against the Buffalo Bills, one of the best teams in the AFC, without even using the motherfuckers, is what everybody will say. Hell yeah. And I think that is absolute bullshit.

Because that is a game that shouldn't count for either team. None of the stats should matter. That was a game that you had to throw out you had to show up and win however the fuck you can win and if you can beat somebody just running the ball right down their goddamn throats which is what has been happening by the way to the buffalo bills two out of the last three weeks or whatever if you think about jonathan taylor five touchdowns just a few weeks ago if you can beat him doing that and you don't have to have the risk of 30 miles, why in the fuck would Mac Jones, Josh McDaniels, Bill Belichick, anybody on that offense do anything differently?

They got to win. That is the only thing that matters. Now, Mac Jones' yards and stats are going to be, you know, suffer because of this. Oh, yeah. And a lot of us who got him at like plus 1,400 to win Offensive Rookie of the Year aren't necessarily thrilled that he's going to miss out on a game where he could have made leaps and bounds in a statistical category that he would need to win the offensive rookie of the year but in the other words who cares he did exactly what he had to do he did everything

that everybody in new england does he did his job he handed it off they won a game that they're going to have to you know i mean buffalo're going to have to, you know, I mean, Buffalo's going to have to figure out how to stop that, especially going forward. With the AFC, now that we know New England's able to do it, we thought for a little bit Baltimore was able to do it. We know now that the Indianapolis Colts are able to do it, so Buffalo's going to have to figure that out.

That's going to have to be on them. Now, I don't necessarily think that reporters should be talking to Poirier and Michael Hyde like, hey, Yin's are soft. I don't know if that is how everything should go, but they're going to have to figure out everything going on in Buffalo to tell us a little bit more about how they feel. Obviously, noted Patriot superfan, Mac

Jones fan. Only three passes last night, they still won. Couldn't you do his job? Whoa! That's what everybody is saying. I don't understand how you can just say, okay, there is a Bildo tornado going on. This game is just

completely different than everybody else. Although Josh Allen threw 30 times. It wasn't with much success. I think there's unwanted hate coming at Matt Jones, and that's strictly because he is a Patriot. Yeah, yeah exactly people are always going to hate the patriots i mean i do feel bad i don't feel bad at all but i do feel bad that people thought they were dead forever just a year ago and now here we are you know they're already the one seed again kind of a bummer for everybody it sucks that's what happens when you have bill belichick and

that's what the rebuild is i mean mean, the O-line played unbelievable. Really, the defense is the story, I feel like, for the Patriots. They truly only scored three points. If Nikhil Harry doesn't let a punt go off his face. Oh, yeah, shout out Matt Hawk, by the way. Matt Hawk just played that bounce right off his face. Yeah, very interesting. Let's put a guy back there in the windiest game of the year who's never returned a punt in the NFL.

I mean, what are you going to do? It doesn't matter. We won. Who gives a shit so quick quick thing there's no way any of the hawks punts were going to look like nfl punts they're probably going to be a lot lower even with the uh wind at his back that kind of beats the ball down a little bit whenever the winds are back so maybe the biggest difference in bill belichick's eyes and also my eyes between college punters nfl punters and returners is the ball's coming down from a lot higher yeah okay so these balls are coming down from a lot higher which potentially gets some people a little fucked up maybe bill was thinking it's going to be more line drive punts anyways

nikki o'hara will be able to handle that because he was able to handle it in college not 100 sure i asked the same fucking question you did whenever he was back i'm like nikki o'hara i didn't know he was a returner and i started thinking about it Maybe it was just because of that. But that would be a deep excuse for Bill Belichick. I mean, that would be a deep, deep, deep excuse. Well, we've got Earl Shefsky. He's an all-pro, pro-bowl returner. It's not like he's a slouch. Like, last year he was all-pro.

And he's probably the safe guy, too. Like, they would – anytime they put Amendola back, I was, like, pumped. Because Amendola, beginning of his career, nightmare returner. Okay, he would bring kickoffs out from, like deep eight deep he'd come full speed it was like this son of a bitch just taking the and then i'm i'm punting he would do it then towards the end of his career anytime he was in it was like hey this is a safe situation they are just trying to get the ball back which was beautiful i would assume gunner is already a pro bowler is that same type of thing i do wonder why he put in it because that was really the biggest yardage game oh yeah for the whole night for both teams other than damian

harris popping that thing open for 80 but that was a massive massive gain that is an interesting decision there yeah it didn't really make much sense i mean who cares because yeah it's bill belichick you just kind of whatever he wants to do is what we're gonna do and i love it no matter what if i disagree with it who cares if i it no matter what. If I disagree with it, who cares? If I do agree with it, obviously even better. But, no, it was unbelievable. I mean, I think about the fourth and 14 to this point about Bill making play calls. If he blitzes everybody, zero blitz, and they get that first down or touchdown,

I'm sure the conversation today is more about his decision to do that instead of. Well, Josh missed Cole Beasley, though. Yeah, throwing into the wind. He's throwing into 30-mile-an-hour winds. Yes. He missed the guy. It was like, no shit. What are we even...

Are we not... Go outside when it's 30-mile-an-hour wind, okay? And then just face directly in it. If you can't figure out which way it's going, you probably should be able to feel it, but just go ahead and lift something, throw it up. And when that shit disappears, just go and stare right into the direction in which the wind was coming. And then just try to open your mouth and then try to just do something.

So people acting like that wasn't reality last night just because it's NFL football is insane to me. I used to, people always say, oh, punters figure it out. Because in punting, and I talked about this last night in the the video and i know not everybody wants to talk about punting but this is just literally from my point of view the when you're punting the ball has free fall right so you're holding it and then you you try to get it as like in a proper that's a golf ball that thing's going to get juggled today but whenever you're you're dropping it you're trying to put it in a position where it is most consistent as normal for me flat and straight so you're trying to put it in a position where it is most consistent as normal. For me, flat and straight. So I was trying to drop it as flat as possible and as straight as possible.

And then I would hope that my soft touch of leaving the ball would be able to have it float down in the same position. And I'd be able to smack hopefully quickly. This is all happening within a little bit of a free fall time. Whenever you have 30 mile an hour gust, that thing can move while it's dropping to your foot. So unless you're literally kicking the ball straight out of your hand, there is a moment of free fall there. So the wind is going to affect that. I mean, that is a nightmare. So everybody talks about the wind up top, the wind up top. Yeah, the wind up top is a problem. In the wind, everything is there, but it's on the field that is the biggest deal for

punters because that is basically taking the golf ball off of the golf tee. If you see how low Jake Bailey dropped this ball, that is because he was trying to get his little amount of time from his hand to his foot there. So this is a low ball. That ball is normally going to be up there about the knee high, maybe lower thigh on where you're hitting that, depending upon what type of kick. I mean, there's all types of variables. That's a low. He's hitting that ball very low there. So whenever everybody would be like, oh, just do your job, and I would explain it to them. They'd be like, what, I mean, there's all, all types of variables. That's a low, he's hitting that ball very low there. So whenever everybody be like, Oh, just do your job.

And I would explain to him, they'd be like, what do you mean? I'm like, okay, Oh, well I guess so. But everybody's able to do it. So if you were to go to a urinal and piss and I would come with a leaf blower. Okay. That's basically what is happening. If the wind is coming from left and right and just get your piss to the goddamn, get it to the urinal.

Okay. So just blowing from the side. So just think of that. Or if you're on your desk and you're working with paper, just imagine like somebody coming and just blowing it out of the way while you're still writing it,

but it's still being held down. So it's just like, it just makes everything incredibly more difficult. And I think that is why every place should have a fucking dome. Every place should have a dome. Give every place a dome. That was a conversation on Twitter last night, by the way,

because there is times like games like last night where it is nothing reminiscent of either of the teams, basically. I mean, I guess the Patriots could look like it, but the Patriots have 7,000 identities. They have more accents than Brian Kelly. The New England Patriots are a different football team every single week, but the Bills seem to be a team that might not be their best in their own location.

That is, I don't know how it's happening for them. I'm like kind of bummed for Bills Mafia. Well, I mean, today, obviously, you're in their division. Of course. That Bills team is the team that I think a lot of us are big fans of. Oh, yeah. A lot of people picked them to go to the Super Bowl before the year started. I'm a big fucking fan of the Buffalo Bills.

I like their story. I like their story. I like their team. I like their fan base. I like everything about the culture that is the Buffalo Bills, just losing their mind. And I think Josh Allen and that team seem to be perfect for the Buffalo Bills. But for whatever reason, the style of play that they are losing to is a style of play that they're going to have to be able to beat

if they really want to make any actual run at this thing. Now, they were able to beat the Colts last year. The Colts are much different than they are this year. Jonathan Taylor is the guy as opposed to Phillip Rivers being the guy last year in the playoffs. So they did get a playoff win. I understand that. But it just feels like this Buffalo Bills team, for whatever reason, just can't handle, like, ground-and-pond football.

And if that is something they're going to run into late, I feel bad for Bills fans because this was supposed to be a goddamn year. And I was excited to see Bills Mafia go. Yeah, not being able to run the ball or stop the run when you're the Buffalo Bills playing in Buffalo is a wild decision for that team. Josh Allen may be the best runner-up there. Well, yeah.

Why didn't they do that more? Yeah, why didn't they run him more? He didn't hit his over, by the way. 39, he was at 40. He had one massive runner-up there. Why didn't they do that more? He didn't hit his over, by the way. 39, he was at 40. A lot of heartbreak from a lot of people for that. No one hit their overs. Josh Burrito, he fumbled almost right out of the gate. He hasn't been there.

I think he's been in Buffalo for two weeks now. They're just picking up guys. I know Peyton said on the Manning cast at one point it was a fourth and five or something, or third and five for Buffalo, and he was like, they want to go to the sticks, but this is the point where Josh has got to go deep. And I think with last night, there was no way they –

he wasn't going to be able to complete any of those passes. Even Dawson Knox, you could see – I mean, he had three, four drops. You could see how much the ball was moving and how tough it was for those guys. And obviously that played right into the Patriots' hands, and Buffalo would have wanted to throw it 50 times. In this office, as the weather was continuing, I guess Bill Belichick and them knew, and I assume the Bills knew the night before it was going to be like that

because Bill Belichick actually joked amongst friends the night before the game. He said, we actually joked about how, you know, we can use all of our passing game the next time we play, December 26th. We're not even going to have to use it. That's what they laughed about. Yeah. Mike Rice reports that the question via Greg Hill, shout out to Greg Hill's show with a great question.

Due to the weather, will you be able to take anything from the game into December 26th against the Bills? Bill Belichick laughs. We were talking about that last night we can use our whole passing game at the that all the pass plays we have they haven't even seen them look at that genius genius did he say that after the game uh so the great i think it was this morning yeah i wonder how long in advance they knew what this game was going to be. Did they know Saturday night what was going to happen? We all found out kind of middle of the day yesterday.

Did they know Sunday? We found out kind of middle of the day yesterday. And in this office, we all thought, oh, this plays into the Patriots' hands. Oh, yeah. We thought, oh, this is good for the Patriots. This is not good for the Bills. And the line moved the other way. The line moved towards the Bills, like helping out the Bills a little bit.

And I was, what are we seeing that everybody else isn't because i thought it was immediately going to go the other way like i thought new england was going to get more uh you know points or whatever whenever the weather continued to get worse because i think we just have so much faith in bill belichick in the run game as opposed to what the bills were able to do i wonder why it did that do we know sunday i know it was reported that the winds were going to be really bad. I don't know if they knew that the gusts were going to be up to 50, but is the thought with Josh Allen, because it was so windy, and he is one of the strongest arms in the NFL,

that they could probably pass the ball more. Oh, because Mac Jones got a little noodle warm. Sure. I mean, he definitely doesn't have a Josh Allen arm. Isn't that what people are saying? No way. Mac Jones is being attacked. Oh, yeah.

Big time. It's a rookie. Yeah, he's a rookie, and we're the ones in the AFC. And to your point about him being Rookie of the Year from earlier, if we win 12 games and have home field advantage, and he's the quarterback of that team, I feel like you can't not give it to him. Yeah, I agree completely.

Let's talk about the Manning cast a little bit. Enjoyed. Less guests. It was good. I enjoyed it. Aqib Tlaib fucking lay. I love Aqib Tlaib. He was good, by the way. Had a relationship with Peyton. You could tell he had a relationship with Peyton. He knew when,

how, why to talk. It was I love Aqib Tlaib. I also thought Joe Buck came in there and crushed. He was on fire. He alluded to a future divorce, which is awesome. He was in Cabo. He kind of buried bait in a little bit. There was on fire. He alluded to a future divorce, which is awesome. He was in Cabo. He kind of buried bait in a little bit. There was good conversation.

Called some plays there on Monday Night Football. Called whoever the hell that is, he said. I mean, it was good. Now, I do know that there is an actual narrative, I guess, amongst the public that Joe Buck does not like Eli Manning. Oh. Joe Buck alluded to it a lot last night you know he was like you know eli's down here i'm i don't think eli said a single thing when joe he didn't it was pretty pretty much just joe and peyton i wonder if joe knew i wonder if joe knew going in there he had to have known right did somebody tell him day of like hey

by the way there is a narrative that you hate eli Manning, so let's assume Eli hates you. Do you think? I don't know. That was fascinating to watch because when Joe alluded to it a couple times, I'm like, oh, this is a real thing because Joe is trying to get it out there, like, hey, let's go ahead and handle this. I did not know. But I love Joe Buck on there.

But I don't think Eli said a single thing the entire time. The only thing he said, and this would make more sense, it was after Joe said something about the only thing he said and this would make more sense it was after joe said something about uh you know the only time he's wanted to like interview someone was when peyton was in the super bowl uh eli was like yep you just went up a couple notches in my book he said i didn't think about it last night but i guess if he's on his shit list that that would make a little bit more sense i wonder i don't know i just felt like that was something that joe was alluding to which is comedic because i did not know because joe does call a lot of the nfc games yeah oh yeah oh that's awesome he called the super bowl where david tyree made the catch against the undefeated patriots and

apparently he didn't have enough excitement yeah because he didn't know if he said because he didn't know if it was actually a catch or not and then they like re ran that clip and everything i was you know joe buck on a Manning cast. Here we go. That was a good time. A Keep to Leave was great. And David Letterman can fuck off. Yeah. That guy stinks.

You know? Man, Letterman's an Indiana guy. Mm-hmm. Former weatherman. Fucking turned great. Yeah. Comedian. He was a great guest, you know, on Carson.

And then whenever the handoff was to be made, he already had a show on the channel. They thought he was going to get it. No, they give it to Leno. Oh, shit. Letterman then gets his own show over there. He kind of, you know, is a trailblazer, revolutionary guy on late night television, incredible interviews, very relatable,

very hilarious. Big fan of David Letterman and his work and his trailblazing. He owns a show, too, I think. It's something, Pants. Yeah, too, I think. It's something pants. Yeah, sure. I don't remember what the pants are, but it's some sort of pants that he's wearing. My Next Guest on Netflix, too.

Great. Great conversations. Not as good as his original ones early whenever he was Letterman, Letterman. But, I mean, still good conversations. And he wants to ban punts. So fuck off, Letterman. What's that all about? What's all these guys?

What's that all about? He's a Colts fan, too. It seems like that's a direct shot at me. He had to see me for at least a few years in there. And every time he saw me, he hated me. Fuck off, Letterman. That makes no sense. Wants to do field goals only from the 50-yard line.

Raise the post. Are you shitting me? Hey, fuck off. They eat enough crow and shit, Letterman. The kickers, okay? Makes no sense. Still a good guy at his business and everything. But come on.

Go to hell. Come on. Come on. Pirate take. That's a hack joke. It's a hack joke. You and Larry David both. Yeah. Unbelievable.

Could you pay attention to the game on the Manicast last night? So when Letterman was on, no. Because I was fascinated, fascinated, fascinated. They went to a break in the middle of him talking. Okay, somebody should have maybe told him. Also, maybe he should have had a little self-awareness. Who i don't know who it's on who it's not on and then he said i hated punters i'm like all right well fuck it then i started he wanted to ban punting and i just started watching the game back there was a couple distracting moments but the game was

right if you're watching the actual feed it had to be rather distracting to begin with right i mean it's the same play over i was gonna say they ran it 49 times 49 times. So it was kind of, yeah. Well, definitely. But it wasn't like, it was easier to follow because you didn't really have to like read between the lines or, I mean, it's just like, okay, you look up and yeah, they're 12 yards further than they were, you know, when I looked down. Now there was three or four different moments where I wish I knew what the person's name was because it's not, it's not mentioned. And I'm like waiting for somebody to turn their back so I can see their ballot.

Who was that actually that did that? So i think you miss out on that as well but maybe they can add some there's a way they can add that they had a brand new open for this oh yeah uh-huh they had a brand new good it's like man in the arena is open you know yeah here we go it was like man they're going big man the arena tonight that's going to be awesome i can't wait randy moss i'm sure he's got some r Randy Moss is on there? Randy Moss and Strahan. Oh, yes. So they'll go into the undefeated season. Strahan.

Strahan. Strahan. Strahan. I don't give a shit. I hate the guy. He fucking ruined the perfect season. Hey, he's good on Fox, though. Yeah, he is.

Yeah, Strahan's good. I thought he was in space. He's going to space. By the way, Space Station okay? Remember, somebody told me a chip of paint fractured a windshield. When was that, two weeks ago or something? Yeah, from all the space junk.

Yeah, space junk's floating around. I guess something as small as a little chip of paint can fracture everything. Yeah, could destroy the entire International Space Station. Do we not have a dome on that thing out there? No, it's floating freely. Hanging around. It's crazy.

I think they said Putin was shooting lasers up an old satellite. Putin shooting lasers up it? Yeah. Now he's just got space junk floating around. I was thinking about him just... Yeah. If I could... Destroy that?

He's shooting lasers from Earth into space? I believe so. I believe that was a report. Oh, my God. So those things are getting shattered, and then all of a sudden. Then they're just flying. Good luck. Picking up speed with each pass.

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Hey, I saw you in L.A., man. What was that like? Did you get surgery? Did we get surgery on the foot? And was that you in L.A. in those photos? I think if you look at the feet and maybe the car, you would know that was me. What happened? What was it out there?

Did anything pop up? Was it just precautionary because it's bye week? You have a little extra time? You want to learn about yourself? Or how was that decision made? I wanted to get a second opinion on my toe. We've got an incredible doctor here in Wisconsin who many people across the country will send their issues to,

foot, ankle, toe, whatever. But I think it's always important, regardless of what you're interested in, of getting multiple opinions on the subject, especially when it comes to medical things that you might not be an expert at. So I went out and saw fantastic, fantastic doctors out there and had some good conversations and thankful for that opportunity to gather some more information. Were you able to make a stop in Austin,

maybe on the way back to get a third opinion? And if so, like what did you learn about your toe throughout these trips? I wasn't able to make it to Austin just yet, but Dana White sure is doing pretty good. Hey, when you saw that,

are you guys in a group text? It's like, hey, Dr. Joe Rogan's patients and did you guys just fucking put all the dunks on? Did you do that? Is that what that was? No, I definitely saw the clip. Okay.

I know Dana just a little bit, but I'm happy for him and his wife and their kids and his 80-year-old mother-in-law. That's what gets lost, I think, too often in this is that they're all doing well. So I'm happy they're all over COVID and doing really well. But no, I didn't go to Austin. I did get some great information about my foot. There was nothing really revolutionary. There was no mindset change or anything. The biggest key is rest.

I wish that there was another one of these weeks so I could get 14 to 21 great days without doing anything. But the toe is improving, and we'll see how it feels later in the week. I learned how you could get 10 days, although I don't think we should go back through that whole process there. How do you feel, though? It's late in the season already. Going into week 14, you guys coming out of a bye week process there let's how do you feel though it's late in the season already uh you know going into

week 14 you guys coming out of a bye week in which you looked fantastic the week before is this just status quo like the broken toe is this just understood that this is going to happen and if you have to get rest are you normally a guy that misses practice and it doesn't matter or is this going to be a little bit of a routine breaker for you well it's kind of the habit now it takes 21 days to form a habit, so we're going on that many days and not really doing a whole lot of practicing. Last year, I was very proud to say that I didn't miss one day of practice and wasn't on the injury report one time. I mean, that's kind of a rarity, I think, for anybody that's played quarterback

as long as I have. And really, just about any position, there's going to be something that's going to put you on the list one way or another, and you might miss practice here and there as precaution because you're dinged up or banged up. But last year was amazing. I mean, I felt incredible. Obviously, that's not the case this year. I'm missing, obviously, a number of practices now. I'm not going to disparage practice and say it's not important.

I think it is important. I think there's things to be talked out and figured out during the week by practicing and taking those reps. At the same time, I'm old enough. I've been in this league long enough. I've played enough games where I can still go out and perform at a really high level without practicing. You mentioned if you got surgery, your toe would be immobilized.

Would that be for how long? For the rest of the season. What, they just put a pin in? A little baby cast on it? Yeah. They put a pin in to prevent any further displacement of the fracture. So that would immobilize my toe. That's not option number one or two, I don't think.

But if things were to progress or get much worse, then that would be something to avoid any further, further damage. So we're not ruling out that this could potentially happen throughout the rest of the season still. And you said last week that you could get the surgery on a Monday and still play on a Sunday. Has all that information been confirmed? Is that the mindset going forward with LaFleur and everybody?

Yeah. I mean, LeFleur is not a doctor, but he is a close party to the situation. And I think any decision that's made would be one that allows me to play. I'm not going to miss any games. I've obviously played with much bigger injuries, different parts of my body. And this, although it's a small pinky toe, it's definitely painful and creates some issues. But I'm not going to miss any games because of it. To me, you know, I just didn't think it made sense. I needed Dr. Bob Anderson, you know, to do surgery right after a game.

So we wanted to give it a week to see how it felt. And it's definitely feeling better. And we're hopeful that we can get to the end of this week and be feeling really good and maybe kind of get on the other side of this thing. Okay, and the murmur you heard there is Zeta, who's a Bears fan, who seems to care about you a lot more now.

He's taking another week off. That's what he's thinking as a Bears fan. And we'll get to Sunday night football, which in Lambeau with the Bears is going to be awesome, especially coming off of you telling them that you are their landlord and all that shit. But we'll talk about that at some point. During the bye week there, I know a lot of conversation around your toe. Is there a real self-scout? Was there anything that, because I don't think you were able to travel unless the NFL allowed you to LA. Is there a real self-scout like was there anything that because i don't think you were able to travel unless the nfl allowed you to la is there full self-scout and do teams really

change in the bi-week especially this late in the season is that something that actually happens i mean i don't know i think somebody's overblown probably i think that there's there's definitely some self-scout that goes on a lot of times just kind of a reinforcement of what you already know i think there's enough self-scout going on uh you know on mondays and tuesdays by the coaches as they look back through the previous game and the previous games to think about uh what's been working what hasn't worked what they've run over the last four or five games uh so i think there's enough of that that goes on you know there might be one or two things that come out of a bye week that you might implement, but there's not a whole lot of change.

You are who you are. You want to do the things you do better, put a different face on them from time to time. Obviously, there's time schematically to come up with new schemes and to, I think for most of this league, watch the other games and try and steal plays from them, plays that worked. I'm sure there's some of that. But the most important thing, I think, not just for the players, for the coaches was to get away from it.

And I had some fun face times with some of the coaches, so I know that they were able to get away and not be all ball all the time. And I think that's important for not just them but for the players as well who got to go away and spend some time away from ball. My dad, Pistol, actually sent me a nice article in The Athletic on your O-line coach and talked about how he's a big reason for your success. Can you talk about him and some of the rest of the guys on that staff?

Yeah, big shout-out to Pistol and Jutes for sure. Come on up, Judes. Judes is awesome though. Pistol and Judes fucking get going. Have you guys been around them yet? I've been around Pistol at that one cult thing

we went to. Oh yeah, he came to our event. He wasn't wearing a mask or anything like the last time somebody showed up there. Steno, remember a couple years ago. Eyes wide shut.

What? I didn't know that's where I was headed. That's the shit you got going on? That's not this conversation. He's not talking about me. He's not talking about me. Big culture in Dublin there. Yep. Big culture. Oh, uncle.

I think we're talking about Adam Stenovich, a.k.a. Steve Stenovich. I call him Steve because we do these competitions from time to time in team meetings. And one of them was get to know your coaches. So they had an offensive player and an defensive player up there. They're asking them, you know, you've got to name the coach, you know, first name and last name, what position that he coaches. And I think it was Jamal Williams was like, oh, that's Steno. What's his first name?

Steve. It's not Steve, it's Adam. And I actually played with him for a brief time years and years ago when we were coming out of college. But I think he's done a great job. I think Steno's a really interesting, creative person. He brings some really good schemes to the table every single week. I like his steady hand.

He keeps the guys accountable and isn't afraid to raise his voice and get on those guys, but he also creates a real good environment. The O-line room has always got to be the best, loosest room in the whole place. Now, it helps with David Bakhtiari because I don't think he's been serious for a day since Josh and then TJ Lang left the facility, kind of picked up where they left off, and he thinks he's the class you know, class clown of everything. And he doesn't realize most people are just laughing at him.

No, no, no. As long as they're laughing, who cares? Yeah. But Steno's done a great job of taking care of those boys and getting those guys ready to play, especially with the injuries that we've had up front, Josh Myers and Elton Jenkins and obviously Dave. the injuries that we've had up front, Josh Myers and Elton Jenkins and obviously Dave.

And then, you know, Luke Butkus is his right hand, right hand man. Yeah. Great name. Yeah. From the, from the Butkus lineages. Lineage. Shout out. Yeah, man. He does a great job.

Just a little strange. The dude never wears underwear. Oh, okay. That's nice. And he little strange. The dude never wears underwear. Oh, okay. That's nice. And he wears his pants up past his belly button. Oh, so you see. Yeah. Always interesting, the decisions that people make.

Yeah, interesting. AJ made some interesting decisions over the years, too. Well, yeah, I'm sure he did. He's the most toxic human I've ever seen in my entire life. I mean, he just brought up an Eyes Wide Shut party in the middle of this conversation, which, you know, is something we will have to pivot past somehow. I don't know how. I have more questions about that because I assume you two,

in the high society life that you're living in, there's a lot of weird shit you two have probably been invited to and have gone to. But we don't have enough time today. Okay, this is a sports. No, the other way. Yeah, that way. Yeah, that dude. Yeah, I hear about it.

Yeah, all the events he goes to. But let's talk a little sports here. Bakhtiar, you just mentioned him there being a class clown. Have you talked to him during the break? How is he? Is he coming back? I thought he was coming back. Then there was a surgery.

You seem to give us an update every week, which I think all Packers fans are very thankful for. He's an incredible player that you guys have not had, and you haven't had a lot of success thus far. Yeah, we've had a lot of starters miss games, him being one of them. I've talked at length about his very empty promise to come back week one. If I were to come back and play for the Packers this year, that was his promise to me in the offseason.

Jumping on a waterfall. Have you seen White Christmas? it's a great holiday movie right it's a big crosby and danny k you probably never seen it it's filmed in you know one of the first color color movies right and it's about snow aj you idiot oh snow snow. Thank you for clarifying. I didn't know if it was cocaine. I didn't know if it was snow. I didn't know if it was people. In the movie, Danny Kaye saves Bing Crosby from these bricks. They're fighting the Second World War. These bricks are about to fall on him. Bing Crosby doesn't know what's going on.

Danny Kaye saves him, right? And then he uses that one incident over and over and over to justify, like, Kim getting Bing to do things for him right you know hey you know let's be a uh let's be a duo singing group i don't think so then he holds on his arm because it hurt his arm during that okay fine hey you know i want you to meet this uh these two ladies that like yeah no i'm not going to. Are you sure? I don't know. That's how Dave is this year with the golf cart. Every time

I say something or try and tease him or suggest something he doesn't like, he always brings up, are you still driving the golf cart? Oh, you are. That must be nice. Just like Bing Crosby, I usually give in to his idiotic demands.

But no more. This is it. Yeah, well, is he going to play or not? Do we have him coming back? Is the golf cart giver coming back or not? I don't think he's coming back this week. Okay. I don't think that's going to happen.

But you never know. Okay, so that's very open-ended. We'll ask you next week. Can't wait to hear that answer. Can I ask you about what happened last night in Buffalo? And I know Lambeau, frozen tundra, there's a lot of terrible games, but 30-mile-an-hour wind gusts. The Patriots decide, hey, we're just going to run the rock.

Matt Jones is only going to throw it three times. Josh Allen threw it 30 times. He was 15-30. Terrible day. I don't think anybody was expecting any of the quarterbacks to have success. This morning a narrative has been made that the Patriots don't need Mac Jones. They can win without him. Is that not just absurd in the world

that we live in that they can find something like that? Especially with the 30-mile-an-hour wind gusts. Have you ever played in anything like that? Penn, I don't want you to be a little hypocritical. You do have a segment on your show called Overreaction Monday, don't you? Oh, it's a whole day.

It's not just a segment. That's what they're going to do. It was Overreaction Tuesday, obviously, today. I think Mac's had a great season. I just think that their thinking was if we have an advantage running the football, then let an advantage running the football,

then let's keep running the football. It's, you know, this first pass, as you saw, the wind looked like it was blowing from, looked like Buffalo's sideline pretty hard towards New England's sideline. And, you know, John, who made that amazing kind of catch there, and then they ran some screen, one screen pass, I believe, and one other pass. You know, it's all about the winds right I played in in 2007 I watched from the sidelines thankfully because I was absolutely frozen in my uniform but we played Chicago Bears and this is you know they were terrible that year and we

were really good but we lost twice we lost we were 13 and 3 and lost twice to the bears that year one of them was late in the season and it was like 30 aj members this was like 30 mile an hour winds gust into 55 miles an hour and it was like minus 30 and we you know i tell the story one of the most amazing passes i ever saw was farby was throwing a check down at tony fisher on the right flat and he threw a ball that went up and over tony's head i mean it would have been a ball that you know it's a common you know one foot in front of the numbers ball to the halfback it goes over tony's head and peanut tillman's on the other side and it's a sure interception and and it's like Phil Necro, the greatest knuckleball of all time.

I don't think Peanut even came close to touching the ball. A couple yards from it. That's how bad the wind was blowing all over the place. We couldn't get a punt off, and they blocked the punt. It was a wild game. They obviously handled the cold that day a little bit better than we did. But, you know, it'd be like one of those things where the wind was blowing from our sideline to their sideline.

Every time, you know, like third down and fourth down, like punt, guys are throwing off their jackets. All these jackets are going on the field, you know, 20 yards to the field. And, you know, you got Red Batty Scram out there trying to pick up all the jackets and everything. And it was, you know, that was a rough game. We still tried to throw it. They tried to throw it a little bit, but that came down to special teams.

Last night it did as well. The Buffalo kicker, and look, I'm not saying that's an easy kick, but if he makes that kick, then they only got to get Phil go there on that last drive. But, I mean, that was – I enjoy watching the Manning cast. Those guys do a really good job. They're pretty damn hilarious, aren't they? Yeah, well, Letterman stinks, but everybody else is great.

And that's a shame because I loved Letterman for a long time until he said he's got to ban the punt. And it's funny you mention so to help with him because naturally I have to feel that way even though he was good at what he did for a long time, entrepreneur, trailblazer. Fuck off, Dave. But anyways, Keep to Leave was amazing.

Joe Buck was wide open, even alluded to a future divorce he might have i mean it was i agree i enjoyed it a lot especially with peyton eli the way they talk i love the monday night man and cast i'm happy you do as well i was thinking about tyler big ball bass going out to the kick that ball the mental demons had to be just in there was no way he had any belief he was going to make it now he could have nick falk who made a kick earlier i assume the mental demons were tough there as well uh does that happen for a quarterback do you have to just fight those like when it gets you know some things happen or there's a little bit of adversity maybe is there any demons that potentially get in there you just have to battle against

quickly i'm not really like that i mean because i think in order for him to make that kick he had to start outside the upright yeah you know and know, and that's just mentally, that's really tough. I mean, I think there's times where you battle the uncertainty of whether guys are blitzing or not or whether throws are high percenters or not, and you have a split second to figure that thing out. There are things when the wind really gets gusting in Lambeau, you know, you have to throw certain balls more inside or outside than you'd normally like to but

it's it comes down to a guessing game and you're trying to uh you know just put the ball in a good spot i was impressed by josh last night i thought you know he had a ball to stefan there i just don't think stefan realized where the ball was it could have been a touchdown i don't know how much that ball was moving i mean he must have thrown that ball probably, I would guess, five to ten yards inside, even with a cutting through the wind spiral. But, I mean, the ball hit Stephon in the shoulder. You know, that was a pretty amazing throw we got last night. Can you remember a game, whatever, I guess college or the NFL, where you had your least amount of passing attempts?

And would you be okay if you only threw the ball three times in a game? Well, I don't think that that would be necessary, you know. Look, we played in a lot of inclement weather. You know, we played in pouring down rain. We played in dumping snow. We played in some down rain. We played in dumping snow. We played in some really bad wind games. And there's little adjustments to the plan that you can make, and you realize what throws your higher percentage throws.

I still think you can run screen passes. You can run run solutions. You can run keepers. I think you have to take some shots down the field, regardless of how bad the wind is. You have to find a way to to keep them honest even if you're throwing an incompletion um because kind of like ebes said last night on the you know on the telecast about jumping routes and one safety help you know they

try to throw a couple nine stops a couple go you know go stops last night and and the corner just sitting on it because they said you know i can throw the ball past 20 yards down the field i think that situation you probably have to now you know patriots had i think 48 plays and they ran at 45 of them they had a lot of success they were on a toss sweep on third and five and the guy went 65 70 for a touchdown you know so so there wasn't a whole lot uh they to change at all. But I do think that there's still a way to get some high percentage attempts in inclement weather. And we've been able to do that. I don't know about my least amount of throws ever. I would say probably go back to high school, to be honest.

I think in the NFL, in games that I finished, I don't know that I've thrown under my first start ever. I think I threw it 19 times, maybe. No, I think I threw it 22 times. But probably not too many below 20 if I finish the game, or maybe any. That's a broken toe, full COVID diagnosis from Dr. Joe Rogan in about 200 games ago. And you're like, I think I threw it 22 times, actually. I mean, it's absurd.

Let's talk about you. Talk about the Monday Night Manning cast. There was a couple earlier games where it was like third and one. And I think Peyton was like, oh, this is when you take the deep shot because nobody thinks that you're going to be doing the deep shot. If you're not running for it, this is when you take advantage of that thing. And I think watching you play, there's going to be a couple times where you just almost say fuck it and throw it to either mds or davante that is something you think like hey we have to keep

them honest with deep shots and you said even if it's an incompletion is there sometimes you throw a deep where it's like this is just setting up for later we have to keep this person honest even though you know it's not going to be a completion? Or maybe hoping for a PI call? A PI, yeah, maybe. I don't think you ever throw a ball thinking it's going to be a completion unless you're, you know, you have three seconds on the clock in the fourth quarter and you're, you know, throwing the ball away on fourth down to end the game. There's always that hope that you guys are going to come down with it. I just think that, you know, Mike and I, when we used to talk about games,

you know, back a decade ago or so, we always talked about wanting to take one deep shot every quarter. You know, whether that was a go route or a post or a hard play action, corner post or something. We wanted to make sure the defense respected the speed we had on the field and our willingness to take shots down the field. So I think it's always important to at least dial up those plays. It doesn't mean you've got to throw them every time, but I don't think there's really any balls, unless I'm throwing the ball away, that I think this one's not going to be caught.

So the fuck it thing isn't real. Everything has at least a little bit of, hey, there's hope that this ball could be caught. Even if it's double coverage with Devontae, I'll be able to put it in a certain spot that somehow Devontae's hands will reach up and grab it. There's never like a maybe type throw. No, there definitely are some maybes, but maybe still has a percentage attached to it. I don't know what you and the boys would put on that maybe percentage, but there's definitely a percentage attached to it.

And different players who are better at 50-50 balls, that maybe is a higher percentage than other guys. James Jones was one of the best contested catch guys that I've ever thrown to. And there were a lot of times where I might not throw that ball to certain guys, but if JJ's out there, I would take a shot because I felt really confident that maybe a 20-80 ball, you know, real maybe is more like a 40-60 for him. It's almost twice as likely that J.J.'s going to come down with it in a contested catch situation. So it just depends on the guy, whoever's running the route and the situation and then

defender as well. Say it with me, A.J. Situations are? Situational, I guess. Nailed it. It is. Every single situation It is

Situational Would you go on the Manning cast Would you do it Or are you worried about the curse Is it Is it Still going Has there been other people

Who have been on it Who haven't Not since Josh Allen I believe Currently Draymond Green played Everyone The curse only He's a football curse There has been an active player In a few times Not since Josh Allen, I believe. Draymond Green played. He won the next night.

Oh, the curse only. He's a football curse? There has been an active player a few times. So Peyton believes in it, too, then. Peyton's like, yeah, I'm not ruining anybody else's career. They talked about it. I think there's conversation about going on there in January. Oh!

Hey, those are big games. Oh, yeah. Let's hope somebody else eats the curse. Let's hope somebody else gobbles that thing up. Go ahead, Ty. Aaron, hope you enjoyed the bye week. Did you do anything fun for the birthday? Did you get any good gifts?

Has this cheapskate AJ sent you anything? Did Bakhtiari just kind of like rewrap your golf cart and give it to you? How was the birthday week? Hey, thanks, Ty. Good to see you, man. I had was the birthday week hey thanks ty good to see you man i had a great great birthday week uh a lot of a lot of great messages from uh from people all over the country uh old friends newer friends um when it comes to gifts from the hawk family uh aj is blessed with a really amazing wife. And I think she probably takes care of not just feeding his ass, you know, only eggs and chicken. Well, make the other meals for the other, you know, five members of the family.

But she is the one that usually, I'm sure, comes up with the great gifts. I got some great gifts from the Hawks over the years. So big thanks to especially Laura AJ sometimes writes his name on the card but AJ is actually I will give him this credit he's a very good letter writer so every time that he either comes to the house or we

have an event together do Tahoe or some other event he always writes me some really special notes often inappropriate stuff in there, but I do enjoy keeping those for a laugh in my backpack or wallet. So that's kind of his contribution to the gift thing. Bakhtiari, I still haven't seen any present from him,

but his sweet bride-to-be is a much better gift giver. The Aston Martin excluded. Well, happy birthday from all of us. AJ, I haven't seen a single handwriting on his pitch. No, you stayed at his house for that event. Well, when he comes in here, he just knocks shit all over your desk. That's kind of like his calling card for us. He pisses in our bathroom.

All over the floor, yeah. Happy birthday to me, I guess. Thanks, AJ. Not on the floor for all over the floor yeah happy birthday to me i guess not on the floor never on the floor you know the problem with aaron though you know the dude has everything so if you got like if you got the dude a four million dollar rv that had like everything you could ever think of you would go there six years later and be parked in the exact same spot that you left you'd be like yes thanks man it's really cool and there's still like plastic wrap on the outside yeah but it was nice it was a good gesture it was great exactly it was a great gesture what matters do you spend on anything what traveling is what you spend all your money what do you what is your do you like traveling right

you like traveling the world i don't know if that's a gift that's possible to be gave right yeah and houses are expensive too oh that malibu one oh I've seen that hey I took a tour on that thing on TMZ I went through that entire thing it is we've talked about it thanks Pat it's really nice I've seen that entire thing there's a there's one room that studio with it's it's changed a lot since that since that tour I'm sure oh you built the studio that's a smart idea what's your favorite place you ever traveled to It's changed a lot since that tour, I'm sure. Oh, you built a studio in there. That's a smart idea. What's your favorite place you ever traveled to?

Oh, it's tough. Tough to say. New Zealand was fun. I went to Hobbiton in New Zealand. I'm a big Lord of the Rings fan, so I had to do Hobbiton. Of course. That was a lot of fun. I actually met up with the Bakhtiari's when I was over there over at the same Of course. That was a lot of fun. I actually met up with the Bakhtiaris when I was over there over at the same time.

So that was a lot of fun. Dalai Lama. Didn't you hang out with the Dalai Lama? You hung out with the Dalai Lama? Went to India and Africa. That was a really, really fun trip. Those are good times. Bora Bora is a good spot.

Pat, I'm sure you've taken your lovely wife there before we were supposed to go like four times and then covid came and then they came again and then it was like all right i ain't fucking flying to fiji you know but we'll be sometime it's not fiji though were you talking about bali you're taking to bali i don't know do i know it's a plane to a plane to a boat to a sky to a plane to an island i know it's a long long way i to a boat to a sky to a plane to an island? I know it's a long, long way. I can't wait to get there. The pictures look fantastic. I'm excited. I can't wait to see the pictures. Okay, cool. Well, have an incredible week. Good luck against Chicago. And it is time for something that we have been, you know, clamoring about for two weeks.

Oh, yeah. Listen, there was a couple books that were made available in this one particular book club that were 700 to 800 pages long. And the man who founded the book club said, let's take a bye week so everybody can catch up. Connor caught up on the last two. It was an unbelievable feat. He put together 1,100 pages in three days.

He caught up with everything. And although this book club started out as something that maybe nobody would take serious, here we are now, ladies and gentlemen, for book 13 of the Aaron Rodgers book club drum roll please if you remember all the way back the alchemist it was about the universe we are the universe then all the other books that happened after that before now that were absolutely amazing the power of now the art of war sons who rest in peace but your words are still ringing true today the daily stoic outliers fingerprints of the gods

a 900 page expose on egypt and the pyramids last but not least the ultimate oral history of the office that stands that is staggering 1200 pages It would be quicker to watch the entire office than to read the ultimate oral history of the office, but we do it because we love the book club so much. Book 13 is? The answer is. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

We like this one. We like this one. This one's very meaningful to me. I was obviously super fortunate to be able to host Jeopardy for a couple of weeks. And I was on the show and celebrity Jeopardy in 2015, got to meet Alex and always, you know,

enjoyed that opportunity to meet him, to follow in his footsteps. But Alex was such an important part of so many people's lives. He felt like family because, you know, for me in Wisconsin, you know, from 6 to 6.30 on Channel 11 was Jeopardy. And so when somebody's part of your life every single day for so many years, you feel this affinity to them, you know, a closeness. And I actually got this book when i uh when i hosted the game in this book and i read it before my shows went off and it was really special and it's it's an easy read uh it's short like that like two and three page chapters it's just stories of his life and and fun little anecdotes about

uh the uh the young man that he was growing up in Canada and working his way up and all the different game shows he hosted before he got an opportunity to work on Jeopardy. And anyone that loves Jeopardy and that was an important nostalgic part of their life, you're going to love this book. The answer is it's an autobiography by Alex Trebek. He started writing it when he was first diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. So there's different times throughout the book where he talks about his own mortality and his impending end. And very touching, heartfelt book and one that I actually grabbed when I was at the house before I went to my you know I grabbed it when I was at the house before I you know went to my doctor's stuff

and I was excited to come back and share with the book club this week so thanks again boys and big thanks to Alex for being such a big part of so many of our lives thank you, thank you Alex love Alex Trebek, love the fact that this book is now a part of the book club

the only book club I've ever been a part of now has something awesome from the Jeopardy Man, who once hosted Wheel of Fortune before Pat Sajak. Doesn't get talked about a lot. Then he ended up being the Jeopardy OG. Now it is time for our debut song, I guess. Coming out of bi-week, we did get a chance to work together on this one out to Malibu House.

So go ahead and kick it off. We were working on the 32nd Final Jeopardy song from Jeopardy, right? Yeah, absolutely. You pissed you didn't get that gig? Why don't you start? Hey, real quick. Are you pissed you didn't get that gig? Oh, no, man.

Yeah, he is. Oh, you are. It wouldn't have worked, right? Would it have worked? Is that why they didn't go with it, you think? They could have made it work. I don't think it would have worked based on scheduling the way they want to schedule the show. I obviously still wanted to play

and you never know what happens in this life. Things can come back around. Things might never come back around. I might go back on Celebrity Jeopardy one day. You never, never know. Oh, you're going to be hosting Celebrity Jeopardy. Did we just break a little news right there?

No, I want to go back on as a contestant. I go against Cheech Marin. And Sun Tzu. Any recipes, Sun Tzu? Hey, he is pissed. You knew that. As soon as you brought it up. I honestly hadn't thought about Jeopardy in so long.

Who's the host? It's that lady. Mayimbalik or whatever. She's good. Oh, okay. Punky Brewster. What? Is that Punky Brewster?

I don't know if that's the case. From a show way back in the day? I don't know who that is. I don't think so. She's on Big Bang Theory. I know that. I don't know. It might be Ken, too.

Ken Jennings? Yeah. There's multiple? Well, it was a lady from Big Bang Theory for a long time. And she was good. She was very good. After Mike Richards bowed out. He was also in Blossom on NBC.

All right. Good show, that Blossom show. When's it on, Nick? When's Blossom on, just so we know? Oh, that ended years ago. It was an early 90s show with Joey Lawrence. Whoa. Oh, a moment of silence.

Well, he was on that four cents. All right. But I think it's still, I think it's that lady and then Ken did a couple. I don't know if they've oh, maybe they're waiting on, is Aaron going to retire and become Jeopardy? That's a long time from now that he's still got a whole, you know, another contract to play, right? I mean, well,

they can wait. Is that what the inside information is, AJ? He told Jeopardy they can wait? I don't know. I don that what the inside information is, AJ? He told Jeopardy they could wait? I don't know. I don't. What inside information? Well, you're best friends with the fucking guy.

You write him handwritten letters. You don't write me shit. I don't watch Jeopardy, though. Let's get to a break. We talk every day. I mean, almost every day. Multiple hours every day. Multiple hours every day.

I come to you. No, that's a weird. The writing thing's a weird deal. It was when we get, when like birthday gifts years ago, when, you know, my wife gets a card, hey, sign the card. So of course, naturally I'm going to take some time and explore the space and write some good stuff on it.

So then he's requested them since then. And it does, it fires my brain up. Like I enjoy making up stories and writing things that are heartfelt yet slide some things in there. Hey, anytime you want to go AJ Hancock Hawk with me or anybody here, go ahead and feel free to let that feather fly away, pal. Do what you got to do. We'll be back in four minutes.

Interesting hearing him talking about the pass game from last night, about how I don't think it's really necessary, you know, to not throw the ball or whatever. And what does that mean? You know, what does that even mean? People will talk about it. What did he say? Him talking to that foot doctor, big news, Dr. Bob.

All right, we got Dr. Joe and we got Dr. Bob. Dr. Bob's in Green Bay. Bob Anderson's in Green Bay now. Oh, I thought Dr. Bob was potentially in L.A. No, Dr. Bob used to be down in North Carolina. I actually had surgery right when I left the Packers from Dr. Bob in North Carolina, and then he moved back to Wisconsin, I guess. That's where he is.

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Of Like We won an award What? Excuse me what? Yeah award winning show It is award season Are you shitting me?

It's award season We won one What did we win? We won Sports Emmy No no no Not the big one? Not the White Whale? It was one of these ones that I did not know

exist. It happened. Oh. We won Big Lead's Best Radio Show. Radio? Radio? Yeah, Best Radio Show. We are on radio. That's weird because the guy who comes on sometimes says that we don't do well for radio.

Who said that? Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, radio expert, A.J. Hawk. You know, I think we won because of how much you look out for the radio listeners. Yeah, I've never once said you don't do well for the radio. One, because of how much you look out for the radio listeners. Yeah, I've never once said you don't do well for the radio. I try to describe what is happening when you guys forget that a lot of people are listening strictly to the audio version. Oh, yeah.

And then, by the way, that is probably why we. Thank you, AJ. Thank you, AJ. Thank you, AJ. I think that's why. I saw that. Hey, I saw that. It made headlines here in Columbus all over the papers, that award. Got tweeted to me a couple times.

What's it called again? It's USA Today. You ever heard of it, dude? Ever fucking heard of USA Today? It was front page, USA Today and Columbus Dispatch on my doorstep this morning. Holy shit. Whatever the case, thank you for the honor, whoever voted on that. Thank you.

Thank you. Voters. But I am so jaded towards awards, I will never be appreciative of such a thing. So I am so sorry I've lost so many that it's kind of, you know, I've kind of got to the point where I don't respect them as much as I should because a lot of, oh, fuck that. Oh, fuck that. Throughout your entire life.

And then now it's like, you get one. I should be more grateful. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Voters. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. All right, Ward. For the prestigious honor. Thank you. All right, AJ. Let's get to it. Why would anyone give you a real award when we know you're just going to come on here and trash it? Well, I'm not trashing it. I didn't trash it. I just gave massive thank you. He said prestigious honor.

Yes. He just said prestigious honor. That's how we view it. And I don't mean to trash it. I don't mean to do such a thing. You're not. I know. It's your self-deprecation.

It's great. It's a great quality you have. But what about sports Emmys? Are those, have they happened yet? Do we know if you're in the running? How's it going? Give Dan Patrick a goddamn sports Emmy. That's right.

All right, then we'll worry about it. You didn't have one? No. Well, he has a bunch, I guess. The show doesn't. Oh, okay. And I know his old buddy's leaving to do his own show now, too. What?

McLovin's leaving. What? Nick Lovin's leaving. What? Nick Lovin? Yeah. Congrats, dude. Congrats, Nick Lovin. He's going to do good. Him and Paul had that one show that one time, The Gentleman's.

Yeah, The Leatherman's. The Leatherman's. I was on it. After Hours. I was on it. It was kind of like After Hours, but better. They did a real journalistic type interview conversation. I enjoyed those guys over there.

Trailblazers, actual. You know what I mean? Now they started, I guess, at ESPN, did their own thing. Let's get them

a goddamn Emmy though. I'm not worried about that. I'm just pumped about this big lead one. Dude, it was on AJ's doorstep. It was in our Twitter notification

just moments ago. I mean, it's a big deal. I'm pretty, thank you guys. Thank you. Big lead. We'll take all the awards, right?

Let's make sure others get theirs first. Let's make sure everybody gets their awards that they deserve. Let's talk about awards. Bill Belichick was definitely going to win that game last night. We all knew it, right? I mean, we all knew it. As soon as we saw him in the Navy mask with the way the weather was, that guy's literally been learning triple option football

since he's two years old in Annapolis. Okay, this is what this guy grew up around. This is his entire being almost. He's still very tightly connected to the Naval Academy. I think he donates all the way back to the sport. I think he has an office there by the way at the Naval Academy football

facility. I think he is. We knew the game was going to revolve around running whenever there's 30 mile an hour winds. Now people are saying Matt Jones didn't do any. No shit. I mean that was the game plan was to revolve around running whenever there's 30 mile an hour wins now people are saying mack jones didn't do any well no shit i mean that was the game plan was to run the ball every time they get a win the bills prove once again they can't stop the run or run the rock as well as other teams that they're going to have to beat to get to the super bowl or high in the afc aj what was your takeaway from the evening man what a unique interesting weird game for sure i thought at some point like didn't you feel like, all right,

the Patriots may throw a pass at some point in this game. But I was thinking of the Bills defenders. Now, the Patriots attempt three passes all game. But still, I promise you on the sidelines, the Bills guys are talking, hey, be alert though, man. They're going to hit us with a play action. They're going to take a shot over the top, like a tight end up the seam, something I would have felt like I know defensively. All right, man, there's no way they can continue to run, right? Like, they're going to take a shot over the top, like a tight end up the seam, something I would have felt like I know

defensively, all right, man, there's no way they can continue to run, right? Like they're going to stop. They got to throw a pass in here sometime. Like I'm sure that was in the back of their head. Well, don't get bored, right? Don't fall asleep. Don't get fall asleep, right? Because that is something where they could play action at.

And I guess they did there to Smith and almost, you know, the wind kind of ate that thing up. But that was sitting there probably. And I assume Mac Jones was potentially saying, he's a rookie actually, I doubt he's saying anything, but there's probably some people over there like, hey, we pull one of these and we just have somebody go. But then you have no idea if he's going to be able to hit that pass.

I mean, Josh Allen, one of the most efficient ball throwers that the NFL has at this moment, he wasn't able to. I mean, there was checkdowns that were being missed because it was being blown out of proportion, literally, not only the coverage but the ball itself because of how windy it was up there. That's why every stadium should have a dome, AJ. 70 and sunny.

Put a dome over that place. Put a dome over Lambeau. Put a dome over Soldier Field. Do you want it to be retractable domes at least? Yeah, yeah. And also, I'd like the grass to be able to walk outside. I'd like the grass to be able to walk outside so that it is Chicago grass. It is Lambeau grass.

It is Buffalo grass. It can go outside, see its friends, other grass, come your fuck right back in, though. Let's make this thing 70 and sunny for everybody, AJ. I mean, it definitely sounds like a cheap retrofit to all the current stadiums that don't have grass that walks outside and comes back so just a quick little renovation maybe in the off season for all these stadiums they can figure that out well that's what i'm saying yeah just kind of put that in you know i mean so far it's simple so i mean i've seen a dome built on duquesne university's how does that ever first off who came up with that who came up with the idea at first was he laughed out of the room and how do they actually execute it the grass thing yes this dude was accused of smoking so much dope whenever

he pitched this idea uh here's what we're gonna do we're gonna have a grass elevated on a stage all right it's gonna be a little softer because it's not cement it's gonna be lifted up and guess what that stage gonna do every like four or five hours or so it's just gonna hit a button it's gonna lift up the wall and then that thing's just going to walk itself outside what yeah it wants to get sun it's it's a happy grass you know happy grass gets good sun and then it comes right back in and then actually hits a button to rain on itself inside and it goes it's actually going to be the perfect grass in the middle of the desert because the grass is going to walk itself outside get the fuck out of here you're on drugs that's what somebody had to say now it's like no everybody

needs to have it. I guess they even got in the UEFA and shit. And they might have started this whole thing. To be honest, I just got into soccer again because the United States is better than everybody. We got another guy playing in the championship. Congrats to us. The world's game now in the United States. Hey, the soccer Lombardi's coming home.

Hate to break it to you. Isn't there 15 soccer Lombardi's? home. Hate to break it to you. Isn't there 15 soccer Lombardis? Well, there's a lot of conference championships, and there is award shows around, but there's only one soccer Lombardi, and that's in Qatar here in 2022. That's the World Cup? Yeah.

Is that bigger than an Olympic gold medal? Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that Olympic gold medal. We send our high school kids to that goddamn thing. That's right. I thought it was Qatar. Qatar. Is goddamn thing. I thought it was Qatar. Qatar.

Is it Qatar? I thought it was Qatar. Qatar. Qatar. I believe it can be pronounced both. It's a safe work environment. I know. It's hotter.

It for sure is not. It's not a safe work environment. It is hotter. Thousands of migrant workers were killed building those stadiums. Are you serious? Let's have a moment of silence. Are you sure? Because we'll be here for the next.

Forever. Yeah. Yeah. for every single one. Unless you want to just come back next Tuesday. It's our sport. Don't you remember when we did this for Brazil? It is our sport, though. Now it is our sport. I feel like we do have to pay at least homage.

Yeah. How did a fucking cutter get a World Cup? They knew it was going to be 2000. Big time. We know how it is. How about all those soccer people coming after me for disparaging the game in the way that I speak about us having the best team of all time, and they're just sitting back watching the World Cup go to cutter,

going, this is our sport. Shut the fuck up, Winota. You know what I mean? Isn't there other stuff to talk about, Winota? Pipe down, pal. Anyways, with that being said, let's get back to the sport that is actually awesome. Patriots are going to win the Super Bowl this year, AJ? Hell yeah.

I mean, it's tough to count them out, right? I don't know. Their defense, I'm very, very impressed with how their defense plays. And I love Mac Jones. I like how their O-line. I mean, let's talk about their O-line. Like, you can't run the ball 46 times unless your offensive line is dominating up front, and they obviously did that.

How about just being completely cool with the challenge, excited about the challenge? Now, there isn't one offensive lineman that I've ever met in my entire life that doesn't want to run the ball because that helps them in the pass game, but actually being told, hey, we're running every single play. Hey, tonight you are coming out of your stance, you are firing, and we are doing that every single fucking play. Not a one play are you going to be doing this.

Not one of them. You are going to be driving a sled, basically, for all four quarters tonight because we need you because there's a build-up tornado out there. It's awesome. The ability to be able to do that. And that is what, and I said this in the last hour, but it's real. Like that Patriots team can just adjust to whatever. They just have so many different identities.

They have more accents than Brian Kelly. They can do anything, A.J., at any time. And they change the defense. They change the offense. It's not a big deal for them. So that's why I think going into that game, it started at 2.5. You got the Patriots minus 2.5 or plus 2.5. Yeah, what's our updated score?

Well, we'll get to that in a second. But it started at plus 2.5. You got the Patriots. You know, even though I like the Patriots and I like to touch them. I mean, there was a lot of things that I liked about that game. I was forced to take the other one in lieu of competition with A.J. Hawk. I had to do it. But it felt like it went from two and a half.

Then when the weather conditions came out, it went to three. Patriots got an extra half a point. And I think in this office, and I assume the same for you, because it was kind of happening as the show was ending yesterday, we knew Belichick was going to win that game. Did we not? Did we not just think, oh, this is a Bill Belichick fucking game here? Yeah, absolutely.

But the only thing I'm thinking, let's say Buffalo found a way to win at the end. Would people be killing Belichick's game plan? Yes, absolutely. And that's what we have to do on a day-to-day. I mean, we just have to do it. It works or it doesn't work. And for whatever reason, anytime there's this type of game,

it works for Belichick and it doesn't work for everybody else. there was mcdermott had quite a press conference after the game quite a press conference i mean he a lot of guys did over there yeah well day bowl got one day bowl got one for his decisions boom isaiah mckenzie and uh another guy got one as returners that mcdermott didn't drop you get one too mckenzie that's fucked up wait a minute i didn't know that was the case but he said let's see uh mcdermott also said he didn't drop, you get one too. McKenzie said, that's fucked up. Wait a minute. I didn't know that was the case. But he said, let's see. McDermott also said he didn't trust having Isaiah McKenzie or Marquez Stevenson back returning punts in this weather. That's something, says Matthew Beve.

At Matt underscore Beve. Isaiah McKenzie goes, damn. I don't know. He found out via Twitter that that was happening. I mean, quite a situation, quite a press conference, but also in that press conference, McDermott said, let's not fucking give too much credit to Bill Belichick here. Okay?

We fumbled. We turned the ball over on a 30. We had this. We had that. This is not Bill Belichick winning this goddamn game, okay? This is us beating ourselves and not winning. And maybe that's a valid point. Maybe that's a fair point.

They were very close to winning, but it just feels like bill this is what happened this is bill this is just how it goes yeah and that's what people are saying today like this is going to be one of those games you talk about when you look back on belichick's career how he he can win so many different ways he's a master all that but i think largely what he does is he forces other teams to make mistakes he's like hey we're not going to beat ourselves. We know eventually you probably will beat yourselves. I have a good feeling that we're going to come out on the winning end more likely than not when we actually play what we do what we do and we just force you to make mistakes and we're going to be patient.

It's incredibly high football IQ, right? And discipline and everybody understanding what their role is. Like, hey, this is what we're going to do. Matt Jones literally just, huh? Sits down in the huddle. Same fucking thing. Here we go. Ready?

All right. Just kidding. All right. Same fucking thing. On two. Ready? All right. Just the ability to do that, though, I think is something in of itself. this is just like Tom Brady allowing Bill Belichick

to coach him as hard as he did for 20 years in New England because that showcases to everybody like hey if Tom Brady can get it you can get it third year guy who might be playing well right now and might be feeling yourself and maybe up for a new contract if Tom Brady the greatest of all time is getting chewed out you can get it as well and that was always talked about like hey Bill Belichick coaches everybody the exact same, Tom Brady allowed that to happen for a long time. Tom Brady didn't say, fuck this, I'm getting out of here. Whenever he's talking to Peyton Manning, where Peyton Manning was actually doing that to people in meetings, as opposed to being on the other end of it, Tom Brady allowed that to be something. And I think that's a trait that not everybody has,

which is one that doesn't get talked about with Tom Brady nearly enough. Mac Jones just being like, yep, we're fucking running the ball every single time, not having any ego, not saying anything about it. Just like, hey, the team did this whole thing. I mean, that's just like it goes into it even more, you know, because they're trying to bury Mac Jones right now for what he did last night. And it's like, what do you want to talk about? Who is they? You know who.

Well, I mean, bury him just to say like, hey, they're not burying him. Aren't they burying people that keep propping him up? They're saying, like, oh, he won a game and he only threw the ball three times. They're burying him. It's a fact, though, right? But what could have he – should he have changed the call at the line of scrimmage? What are you talking about? Well, and I guess he did on that one, everybody.

Well, that was the, at least, assessment by the internet and television that he threw at the John O'smith which by the way might not have been inaudible but we have no idea i don't know what he was supposed to do this is just like when people were burying jimmy g yeah in the nfc championship game he threw like eight times i think maybe nine times eight times and he ran for 185 yards before contact and they're like jimmy g is so bad it's like It's like, what are we even doing? Like, why are we? I'm sure there's other quarterbacks out there that are like, man,

I wish I could throw the ball only three times and we would still win the game. Like, anyone would love to have that. And it's not Mac Jones' fault. He's running what the coaches tell him to run. Yeah, well, Mac Jones is a rookie. If you went two for 26, then you could blame Mack Jones. So Josh Allen, one of the most talented ball throwers we have, right? I think we all agree.

I mean, he's a very good ball tosser. He went 15 of 30 last night for 145 yards. 39 rush yards. He had 15 incompletions. Now, that's a very negative way to look at this thing, but honestly, Josh Allen is a very efficient passer of the ball. It was impossible to throw the rock last night. Bill Belichick knew that.

McDaniels knew that. He's a rookie quarterback. I just don't like that Mac's getting paid for this. And now, if what Peyton said about Mac Jones is true, Mac has no clue about anything going on in the world. Allegedly, he told Peyton he doesn't check his phone in the middle of the week, so he didn't text Peyton back until, like, Saturday or something like that. And then he told Peyton he had't check his phone in the middle of the week so he didn't text Peyton back until like Saturday or something like that and then he uh wouldn't give Matt he told Peyton he had to go through the PR department to talk to him Matt Jones the only quarterback this year

that hasn't allowed Peyton Manning to have a conversation with him although it seemed like there was a text or two that was exchanged this guy seems like the perfect Patriot at this point yeah and he also said after the game when they asked him like do you have a problem with only throwing it you know three times a game? He says, I don't care if we throw it, you know, every play. I don't care if we run in every play as long as we score more points than the other team and we win the goddamn game. That's the only thing that matters. He seems so super chill, too, when he's talking.

Two years ago, man, I was playing scout team for my fourth straight year. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I do not give a. It feels like Mac Jones was groomed from a young age to be the next patriots quarterback it really does and then saban obviously is what bill and saban are like tight friends and they run a similar ship and then you know he's there literally for what five years four years as a practice squad guy so he's eating the alabama culture yeah longer than anybody else Watching the amount of film. Bryce Young told,

congrats to him on being a Heisman finalist. What about Bryce? He actually won it, I think. Yeah, for sure. Congrats to him for winning it. He won on Saturday. He talked to Kirk Herbstreit on College Game Day. They had a special.

That show's interesting. I watched it for the first time on Saturday. Game Day or just what? Game Day, yeah. Yeah, you used to be on it. A few times, yeah. And then the minutes disappeared and it was like,

well, I'm going to sleep instead of doing this. You know what I mean? But it was quite an honor to be a part of that show. But watching the game day, Kirk Herbstreit talked to Bryce Young. Cali kid, he seemed super chill,

super cool. And he talked about how much film Mac Jones watched. He said, so when I got here, you know, it was a different role because he was a superstar in high school. Obviously, he's still very young. but he knew he had to buy into what his role was, which was a backup quarterback, scout team quarterback, whatever the case is.

And he got a chance to watch Mac Jones basically. And he was like, Mac Jones, the amount of film that Mac watched and the way he watched film that helped him and kind of matured him. It's like Mac Jones showed up at New England, not being a guy who was able to just beat everybody with his natural ability. He was able, although he probably could have, he had to grind and be forced away. And the amount of number ones that he's been around and their work ethics and being in the Alabama culture for that long. And Saban, who's a grinder, everybody says, it does feel like he's the fucking perfect patriot. It's insane that he ended up at 15. He was supposed to go three. This wasn't supposed to happen. He was supposed to be the perfect Patriot. It's insane that he ended up at 15. He was supposed to go three.

This wasn't supposed to happen. He was supposed to be the perfect 49er. And now it seems like, and this is coming after a game where he only threw the ball three times, and we're saying all this, but him just throwing it three times, not giving a fuck, and then going right back into the meeting tomorrow, putting his phone away for a week. And it's like this guy is the perfect Patriot, it feels like.

Well, and you add into the fact that he watched all that film and that, like you said, he was the 15th pick. There was four guys taken before him that other people thought were better than him after he just won the national championship and was a Heisman finalist. And obviously, Devontae ended up winning the... And he doesn't care, it seems like.

He doesn't give a shit. It doesn't matter to him at all as long as we win. And that's the best part. We'll see what happens going forward. And if he keeps getting better, too. like well he's going to right and that is we're assuming his body is going to change too he's going to evolve in that fashion i mean his brain he's going to start recalling defenses remember how aaron now aaron has a very special brain i mean it is you know it is a next level jeopardy brain yeah he is a brainiac a rain man like it is insane

sounds like cooper cup very similar if you saw that clip of him talking about like the coverage what was going on well there's a fire zone blitz and i didn't know if anybody came behind the cover two there and once i saw that i just knew i had to outrun the safety of the end zone or whatever and it was awesome i would have loved to ask that question. Okay. Back to you. Cooper Cupp leading the NFL in receiving, and Devontae Adams obviously Packer at three. Justin Jefferson, here we go, with the Vikings who have been heartbroken so many times,

including us, when they lose to the Lions. On the last play of the game, Jared Goff, I told him that was the throw we needed, man, motherfucker, man. That's what Dan Campbell told Peter King. He actually told Jared Goff immediately, what'd you say to goff right then asked peter king of football morning in america i said that's the way to throw when we needed it motherfucker man that's exactly what i said he says uh he had a couple of rough throws campbell said for him to come back on that last drive and march us down the field and do what he did, it says a lot.

He needed it. We needed it, more importantly. Okay, so obviously the Lions get a big win. Football morning in America continues to deliver gems. Shouts to Peter King, man. Shout out to Peter King. Guy lives in a different world, Peter King. He lives in a complete different world.

He has sacrificed his entire life to the game. But let's get back to the top five. Devontae Adams, obviously, has Aaron Rodgers throwing him to ball. So that is a big deal. Debo, by the way, he's been running it as well. I don't know where his rush yards are. Jamar Chase, he is top five as a rookie.

Congrats to these guys. But Aaron Rodgers told us at one time, oh, they're running a defense that I saw in my second year playing or whatever, and I didn't remember it until I saw somebody move. Like that is the – and if you watched last night, the Manning cast, it was the same play it was called. And both Peyton and Eli were like, oh, same play, same play. It's such a big deal in the NFL, I guess, is recall a massive thing.

That is the largest thing in the NFL when it comes to not only quarterback play, but mostly all NFL players on the field. Everything. Yeah, defense too. So teams want to run the same kind of route combinations. They're going to go to their staple of combinations they have, but you hear them talk about window dressing, what they're going to do pre-snap.

They're going to get into a final look, whether it's 3x1, 2x2, but they're going to get to it in different ways, shifts, motions, and they want to get it at the last second. So you can't have that recall before the snap, but you need to, all of a sudden here we go. All right. We know three by one at this, this part of the field, they like to take shots or run a little bunch routes, whatever. They want to get to that at the last second.

So all of a sudden they're snapping the ball as he gets to the motion. So you can't have that recall and they're like, Oh, here we go. Nine, seven, three, or you call out the combination. So you were a brainiac too, huh? No, no. I'm just saying that's how like. No combination so you were a brainiac too huh no no i'm just saying that's how like no but you were though you were though you had to have been right all the time leading tackler for the packers mike linebacker and for the centerville elks you had to you were where were you you just kind of knew sense what was going on you love film what were you no not

as much now i think honestly as i as i've gotten older and gotten out of the league i because i'm not in there i don't get to see like see the play calls and what the defenses are called and what it looks like. It's harder for me to figure it out, so it makes me more intrigued to try to figure out what's happening. So when you're watching games, you're trying to guess what's going on or you can't because you haven't watched film all week. You don't know what that team's tendencies are.

I might at times try to guess what's going on, but I'm sure as hell not saying it out loud and trying to be the douche in the room. Oh, 3-by- one-two-three. Oh, no. That makes it better. Shot at Tony. That makes it better.

Didn't Fickle say he wouldn't really know what the play was, but he would just know where to be? Well, he said that they had different languages. You know, Fickle would be like, hey, you going three-to-two, ball, ball, ball, and he just said, I'll be in the flat, dude. Yeah. Right? Isn't that what you said, AJ?

I'll relate, yeah. I'll relate to if it's a zone, yeah. I know what I – sometimes people confuse me with language. And I think you need to make it as simple as you possibly can. There's no reason to make something simple sound complicated, and that's kind of what coaching is. Luke wasn't doing that. Luke's awesome.

Luke was – I was just, you know, 19, 20 years old. I just, you know, I didn't – Sometimes when I get frustrated when things are more complicated than they should be. Oh, me too. I hate it. Like, hey, what do we add in any extra clouds into this beautiful thing we got going on? Why is it getting hazy? Why is there more people getting their hands

into this conversation? Get the fuck out of here. That's more than football. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Yeah, and some of the cooks don't know what the fuck's of here. That's more than football. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Yeah. And some of the cooks don't know what the fuck's being cooked. Exactly. So get the fuck out of the kitchen.

Trying to boil some water. Hey, you. What the fuck are you here? Maybe put your little salt dash on. Okay, say you're here and then get the fuck out of the kitchen. I'm trying to make an awesome meal. You're fucking holding it up, actually. So if you could just bounce the fuck out of the email, that would be fantastic.

Okay. That felt weirdly personal towards someone? That guy, I don't even want to say his name. Salt Bae? Huh? Talking about Salt Bae? No, he's an icon. Everyone wants to be him. Kids are looking up to that guy to be Salt Bae. That fucking guy is the worst. He did say that.

I mean, he is shoving his meat in everybody's mouth whenever you go over his thing. I watch those videos. It feels like a lot of forced meats in their mouth. But I, huh? Dubai. Is he in Dubai? Yeah, yeah. It's all the big money.

Oh, no. Oh, no. What happened? I had a thing. But now I don't know which ones are dead and which ones are alive. Oh, no. Oh, no. It's like Russian roulette with batteries.

How does that happen? I thought you had a system. Well, I did. But the Amazon rechargeable batteries Are new So this is a new system That I have not Oh no

Have not implemented Oh no Come on I think my system was The new ones are down here The old ones are up here Come on I fucking knew my system

I got a system dude Now these ones are all dead They'll go into the thingy. We'll charge them during the break. Look at this. It's a professional show. It's an award-winning fucking radio show, dude. I know, man.

You're saving the Earth, too, at the same time. Yup. Goddamn right. Goddamn right. I know that's what you care about. Well, I want to save the octopi. Yeah? That's right.

Did you watch that octopi documentary yet? I haven't seen that or the macaques yet. Are we able to keep the Omnicron away from the Octopi? AJ, I know that you saw a lot of the same things that maybe our toxic crew saw on the internet this morning. Maybe a blue check put out a tweet about Omnicron not being anywhere near the Omniness. Who did? Who put it out? I don't know.

Well, that's the thing. Now we have to call into question who that person is because we did a little bit of extra research and who knows if it's coming from the, oh, that's actually a real tree or not. We don't know because everything's fucking bullshit in the world that we live in. Allegedly, Omicron's a big old bitch. That's potentially being talked about.

Delta said to be the man you gotta beat the man and omnicron showed up out of botswana and south africa and delta was like whoa child please we've been doing that shit a long time allegedly allegedly allegedly delta baited omicron. That is potentially what is happening, but we have not confirmed with our sources. We just want to let everybody know that Omicron has potentially been misrepresented as a powerful force on this show. And for that, I will take ownership if it is wrong,

but we don't know if it's wrong yet or not. We're just telling you what we're doing. I don't think this is the only show. Not good. Not good. Oh, no. Oh, only show. Not good. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Oh, no. This is not good. This is the best radio show. Going. Give him the Duracells, D. What's that, buddy? Give you the Duracells. You can't do the rechargeables anymore. I mean, that is something. You just got to reset the rechargeables.

I'm so sorry to the earth because I don't know which ones are which in here now. We'll reset them. Chargeable. Chargeable. If I charge them all, I'm sorry. Charge with it. No, I want to be supercharged. I remember when we had all these hoverboards and all of a sudden people were blowing up all over the place.

Tyson was breaking his neck and the next thing we know they were blowing up everywhere. Are hoverboards back for the holidays or no? I don't think so. What happened? Why aren't they? They're awesome. I think they're blowing up. I mean, there's a lot of injuries on those things, that's for sure.

I loved them. Were you good on there? Probably. You're an athlete. Oh, yeah. I told you I used to carry my kids around on them so see that's dangerous too much you should say less on this show i fall asleep while i'm driving i keep my car on while i'm pumping gas i'm hovering around with my kids on a hoverboard i mean i mean i'm not on a i'm not

on a drawbridge over a cliff like i'm in my kitchen very nice kitchen yeah marble edges are very nice kitchen let's get to the walter payton man of the year did you ever win the walter payton man of the year yep three times let's get let's get congratulations let's get did you actually ever win it no i did one year uh 2014 i was allowed i was asked to be a part of Kenny Moore's video, actually, one of his videos, telling him that he had won the Walter Payton Man of the Year this year. That was an honor.

Congrats to Kenny Moore, who should definitely make at least his first Pro Bowl this year, get a new paycheck from Chris Ballard, and also maybe win the Walter Payton Man of the Year because all the amazing stuff he has done. But he is not the only one. Everybody in the NFL has players on their team doing amazing things for the community. The Walter Payton Man of the Year is not normally an easy task to award to one of the players on your team because there's so many good things happening behind the scenes that we never, ever, ever hear about.

The only thing you ever hear about is the drama and the bullshit because negativity hogs publicity. The Walter Payton Man of the Year is one of the awards each year where although people aren't doing good things in their community to win an award it is a great time to spotlight the fucking majestic stuff that is going on in all the nfl cities and beyond uh so congratulations to all these people ain't that right aj absolutely yeah there's we say it all the time. There's a lot of really, really good dudes in the NFL. This is a list of some of them doing some great stuff. But, yeah, there's so many guys doing awesome things. But, obviously, that's boring to hear.

People want to hear about when you pull a gun out or do something bad. Or, you know. Take your vaccine card. Why? Say you're immunized. Why? That son of a bitch is lying but that guy also put together a few hundred thousand dollars i think for his hometown small businesses yeah why i know aaron jones is very he definitely should get it too what if it was slash aaron rogers for that

too would people be upset yeah well of course aaron rogers won't let aaron jones have his own time this guy he lied he doesn't deserve to be a man of the year. What if Aaron Rodgers was going to win it? It was like, oh, Aaron, everybody thinks you're just a gigantic liar. You know how you're not going to ever win MVP ever again? You're also never going to win this year. Can't get it. Awards across the board, pal.

We're sorry. Yeah, so no more awards for you. You are a part of the big leads radio show. Oh, true. Congratulations, Aaron. Congrats, Aaron. I know what the big lead is show you're uh oh true congratulations aaron congrats aaron i know what the big i mean the big lead i know what that is it's a site right yeah you actually yeah you actually came in and was like i've read their stuff i know what they do that that's not what

you said earlier he said i don't know who they are and then he accused us of shitting on it why would anyone else give you an award when you're just going to kill it and say it doesn't mean anything? I'm not killing it. You did. You did. No, I didn't. Yeah, you did. You said it was on the cover of the paper.

Tomato, tomato. We can move on. All right, let's get to our break. We can move on because we don't need to bury the big lead like this. They gave us a prestigious fucking award. You're a real asshole sometimes, AJ. What's that all about? Did Toobin get the primetime spot that Cuomo had?

Of course. Of course, that's where you go. Oh, shit. Jeff, Jeff. Jeff, we can still see you. All right, on the other side of this break, he came back and he owned it. Remember his first interview?

The lady was like, so welcome back. Last time we saw you, you were beating your yes yes anything to say about that that's true it was a difficult time that was a different stroke too that's on my normal go i've canceled my browser's account yes no longer spend a thousand dollars a month what did he say i've gone to the same church ben roethlisberger has gone to i think him and nick cannon are hosting a new show well nick cannon's getting

nick can't take him a long to get from top to bottom there. Let's get to the break. We're back in four minutes with results from the weekend against the spread... Like a poet. Huh? Like a poet. Yeah. I had to think about that for a second.

Yeah, well, it happens a lot. It misses... A lot of sneak by, you know, the crew here. I don't have my dumb brain, but there's a couple that hit every once in a while. But we are back in four minutes with the against the spread results of week 13. AJ Hawk versus myself. I think you're going to want to see these results because it's not as cut and dry as you would think. Oh, no, no.

It's not as clear cut as you would imagine. Now, we should be building up AJ's confidence because he is the one who has tossed the saddle over the Super Boost horse for this Thursday night. Speaking of horse, holy shit. Oh, no. In the spirit? Come on. It deserves a little bit better than what you did there. No, I was mentioning it because I assume you're doing a moment of silence. Oh, are you?

Is this why it's good radio, you think? Because, you know, just words spill out of your mouth. Is this for the horse and Bob Baffert as well? No, no. Bob Baffert's still alive. He's going to have to deal with a lot, though. Okay, but I would like to have a moment of silence for Medina Spirit,

who we did not know a lot about going into a race. Then we learned too much about it. Yeah. And then all of a sudden we felt bad for this incredible, majestic horse. Beautiful creature. All of a sudden I know her. I pass away in the middle of a race.

Rest in peace, Medina spirit. Moment of silence. You ran good, Medina. Stop. Stop getting to the picture. The poor horse is dead. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes. The fact that you let us be a part of your day today is an honor that we will never, ever take for granted.

Hashtag EnderPodSquad. Let us know where you're at, where you're listening. You could potentially win some merch, especially going into this holiday season. And thank you all so, so much. You're the best. We'll see you tomorrow. Big time Wednesday around the corner hey big one tomorrow be a friend tell a friend ty please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful aaron rodgers tuesday evening see you សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្វាប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បាាប់ពីបានប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you.