The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 556 - Feel Good Friday

Episode Date: December 10, 2021

Todays episode Feel Good Friday episode kicks off with AJ Hawk in studio with all the boys, as Pat FaceTimes in from his California hotel room before preparing for Smak=ck DAHN tonight on Fox. Pat and AJ start off the show breaking Dahn. The latest and greatest news across the NFL and sporting landscape. Joining the program as always on Fridays during the football season, it’s Netflix sensation from the show “Last Chance U” Coach Jason Brown (0:31.31-1:04.15). Host of the Lombardi Line and an author for “The Daily Coach” Micheal Lombardi joins the program to let us know what’s he’s been hearing around the league(1:08.19-1:25.46). Pat and AJ finish the show off wishing you all into a fantastic weekend. Make sure to subscribe to  youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up, everybody? It is Friday, December 10th, and you are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0. Pat is in L.A. today, ahead of Friday Night Smackdown, but he is joined by A.J. Hawk in studio, Michael Lombardi, and Coach JB. They go through the entire Week 14 NFL slate. It's a good one. Let's get into it. week 14 NFL slate. It's a good one. Let's get into it. Pat McAfee is out in LA after signing a gigantic fan duel

deal. He is in a hotel. He will be joining us shortly. I am here. I'm very excited to be in Indianapolis here with the boys. The studio feels very sweaty again, very warm for some reason. Once I get this nice gear and these nice clothes, I get a little sweaty.

As Pat said, I'm wearing my Peyton Manning outfit, which, hey, I will take that. That is a compliment. The dude is great on TV. He was a Hall of Fame quarterback, so thank you, Pat. I appreciate that. All the boys are here. Hey, without being a cheese dick or being corny, I'm very excited to be here today. Dead serious.

I was driving. It's great to see you guys. I get to see you through my driving. It's great to see you guys. I get to see you through my computer. It's great to see you in person. So I appreciate you guys having me. Let me come in and, you know, kind of join in on your absolute mess. I'm not going to talk about the desk today. I told Diggs before the show this is stupid.

Gets bigger every day. Whatever. We will move on. But Diggs is here. Boston Conner, Ty Schmidt, Nick Moraldo, Zito, Evie's back there. Uh-oh. Gump. Can we cut to Gump? Gump is here. Boston Conner. Ty Schmidt. Nick Moraldo. Zito. Evy's back there. Uh-oh. Gump. Can we cut to Gump? Gump is here.

All the boys in the back. Billy. Gertie. Sorry if I missed everybody. I walked in. There's about 40 people here in the office today. Obviously, spread it out and did everything right for COVID, of course. Of course.

Always. No, just the normal amount of people here. But before we go any farther, I need to bring in the man of the hour, the man of the week, Mr. Pat McAfee. He's out in L.A. somewhere about to do SmackDown. Sir, how are you? Oh, what's up, dude? Quick question. Thank you.

Well, it's not a question, more so a statement, which happens a lot in this show. I think everybody kind of has come to expect that. Now, quick question for you, AJ. As you sweat all over the place, I said you look like Peyton because I think I've seen him wear that exact combo, and I think you look absolutely incredible, impeccable, so professional that people are going to be wondering why a man in a tank top gets to dress like this and talk to a man like you. Now, let's talk about the decisions you've already made on the show.

You let off in interesting fashion. You let the beat drop, which is fantastic. You put a candle where you can't see it on that desk. That is a fucking nightmare waiting to happen. We've all seen your clubs. I'm trying to get the ambiance. I'm trying to make it feel like homey in here. You already have the Christmas tree. You have

surfing Santa. Oh, what's up shocking bro with Santa? By the way, that candle almost lit the fire. Yeah, we had to move it. We had to move that candle like two inches up. Yeah, no shit. I mean, that's right in front of what? 4,000, 5,000, what?

10,000? What? I mean. It's bad news, Bears. All right, hey, did my super boost hit last night, guys? The answer is no. The answer is no. Okay.

I'll let you get to it. Okay okay so I'm sure you guys were worried I sent a text to Ty Schmidt in the second quarter I believe what were the Steelers down when I said I believe it was 23 nothing I said a lot of game to play Ty a lot of game to play don't worry about the boys and you know what they made a hell of a game out of that was a very fun game to watch it went from being like terrible game to maybe one of the most exciting games of the year, at least for me, watching last night. What did you think of the game, Pat? Yeah, I agree completely, AJ.

And as I saw them just, you know, a buzzsaw show up in a buzzkill moment happens for all of us with AJ Hawk guiding the Superboost for the first time after an impeccable year of picking against the spread. With so much confidence, he He says Steelers money line. I land in L.A. The game had already started. I sit down. It's 9-0 already or something like that. I'm like, what the fuck's going on?

Then Kirk Cousins is slinging it. Dalvin Cook is running all over the place. I'm like, I thought that guy's shoulder was bad. What the fuck's going on? And then I put out a tweet. I go, excuse me, at official AJ Hawk. What the hell's going on with the Steelers? Your pick.

Did you just pick the Steelers for the Super Bowl because you don't like the Vikings? Is that why? Is that why? Because you're a Packers fan and a Packers legend and you don't like the Vikings because of what Brett Favre did in all the years of division? Or did you think that the Steelers were going to do a lot more of what they did in the fucking

fourth quarter the entire game? It felt like something happened. Obviously a switch had to be flipped on the offensive side of the ball. Ben started making better throws. It felt like he was getting more aggressive. Things were happening. Muth. Yeah, Muth.

That ball was there. He was going to make a play. Chase Claypool was getting it on the shins from everybody. And I think he's pissed off about the whole thing as well somehow. So, what a night. That is a terrible evening for the Pittsburgh Steelers fans. There's a lot that is trying to drive them all apart. But more importantly, you gave your best effort, AJ.

I did. And if I – we'll see what happens. I'm sure we'll go around the room, right, to see who gets to pick the Super Boost each week. Well, see, that's something I'm going to have to think about. Believe me, I got a 45-hour flight home. Every time I fly out here, it feels like the winds and the chop must get stronger. I was sitting up in the sky what felt like eight hours yesterday,

trying to catch up with everybody's kind words yesterday. I am so incredibly thankful for how nice everybody has been, how cool everybody has been, and also all the incredibly kind things you've said about all the boys. A.J. Hawk got a lot of compliments yesterday. A lot of compliments on the old jaw from Ohio. Yesterday was a cool day.

I can't thank everybody enough and I still have 170 text messages that I've not answered yet. I don't know if there's a flight long enough for me to get back to everybody who apparently has my number. I appreciate everybody. Everybody's the best. Yesterday was really cool. The video video you did everything was super special i a lot of people reached out to me to try to tell you congratulations and boys and everything so yeah it's an awesome

thing that uh that you've done and and now that you have now seen yeah exactly but i mean it was started with you it's your name your thing and we're along for the ride we appreciate what were you doing so the best thing about it is this is fun, man. I don't know about you guys, but this is what your guys' job is. This is my job. This is technically my profession. I texted you that the other day.

This is my profession. AJ had to sign up for something. AJ had to sign up for something real professional. They said occupation. He wrote PMI. I just had to write you you were my boss i sent a text i was like this is a great day you know when you have to you gotta fill stuff out for your kids and a doctor or whatever and it says place of employment i'm like uh pmi there we go and i texted pat right away this is great day man i'm so happy i get to do that I want to go back to that game quick, Pat.

I'm going to get to the COVID cowboy because his head's down. He's been in mourning. I'm not sure how he feels about the Chase Claypool situation where people feel like they could have had one more play to run. But I want to jump back real quick to Fryer Muth's last play. First off, Ben Roethlisberger threaded the needle. What a throw. Harrison Smith deserves more credit.

And I understand all I do here is pump up Harrison Smith, but I love what this guy does. If you look at this picture, he's about to have pinpoint accuracy. Frymuth has two hands on that ball, probably reeling that sucker in. Harrison Smith punches directly on that ball and causes him to drop it. It's a PBU. It's not a drop. He knocked that thing out of his hands.

So Harrison Smith, the play of the game, because I feel like we all know that. If Pittsburgh scores that with their momentum, they're probably getting the two-point conversion. Then it's a whole new ballgame. COVID Cowboy might be a little happier today. How do you feel about the game, Diggs? I love that they fought. And I'll ask you two this to start.

They, for some reason, cannot play football worth a shit the first two and a half quarters of every single game and I don't know if it's you know they say like we have to establish the run we have to do this we practice this all week even though it's not working at fucking at all we're gonna do it because this is what we worked on all week long and then they're like hey we're down so maybe we'll actually just like let ben be ben and do what he still can do i don't think ben's a problem at all i thought we talked about it yesterday 32nd ranked rush defense in in the league right now like that was a lot of injuries as well i know nick was nick went through all the injuries that they have had so a lot of injuries but hey everybody's hurt right now but

yeah tons of injuries and i don't think ben earlier in his career could cover up for the O-line, letting people come untouched. He can't cover up for that stuff anymore. So I think some of those flaws are being seen. But I've talked about it before this season. Some of the stuff they do, like lighting up 200 rushing yards, getting a pick, and then going to uh in the end zone when you're when you're down 22 points that one was a little bit weird yeah i don't know joe and troy mentioned

it but that one felt kind of forced it felt kind of awkward to me the claypool stuff i mean this is the second year what do you think okay so claypool big fourth and one fourth and two conversion on the slant catches great ball celebrates kind of gives this little first down marker as what the center was running over to take the ball to get it spotted the ball gets knocked around looks like backyard football how the refs trying to find the ball they probably would have had one more play right after oh yeah at least yeah and um like he he got benched last night because he got the taunting like and i'm surprised he doesn't get it more he does it all the fucking time um and he got benched and then he still does that like you have to

you have to think about the moment before you think about yourself and i don't know how often he does like he's so fucking talented but he does that shit all the time and it's week 13 so it's obligation for me to hate a fucking sealers wide receiver at this point in the season and i guess it's going to be him this season he does the fucking tiktok in his this is probably this is probably all fucking juju's fault to be honest i don't know i mean i like i love ben i love that they fought they do i just wish they would do it earlier in the game i don't know they're not i mean if they found a way though if they found a way to tie that game up and potentially win that's a franchise win for the pittsburgh steelers and yeah for me it's the super boost too everyone franchise win for the pittsburgh steelers and possibly

catapult yeah for me it's the super boost too everyone's life could have been different if the steelers just could have found a way to win that game right so chase claypool i would like to talk about chase claypool because his press conference after him and i think we know chase a little bit right i think at this point we've had him on a couple times and he's very young and he's very talented and he is taking it on the shins, justifiably so, for the optics of the entire thing. But if you hear what he was saying, he was saying, hey, I caught the ball in the hash. All right, the ref's fat ass wasn't there yet is basically what he said. The ref's fat ass wasn't there yet.

I think he thought he had time, a little bit of time to do that and still be able to hand the ball off and then line up in the formation that he was at. So I understand where he is coming from in that particular case, but optically that can't fucking happen. Like, you know, like that is, that is just something that can't happen. So I think the ball exchange between he and Turner, I believe it was Trey. Yeah, it was. I believe Trey was like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, I like, which by the way,

I think everybody had at this point has appreciated him doing that and everything like that. But the ball ending up on the ground never could now because nobody could scoop no ref can scoop and score you know i mean i i can't no ref can't but that's another play it's just optically it looks terrible doesn't didn't you i instantly thought of how they praised larry fitzgerald when he would grab the ball and sprint it over to the ref in situations like that that's's what I started to think about when I saw the Chase Claypool situation play out. They taught that, I assume, at Packers.

It felt like just as somebody that watched practice. You know, and obviously we mentioned Peyton being – like that was just like a part of it. Like, hey, if we're running two-minute right now, this ball ends up in this ref's hands right next to the hash that it's being spotted. Like this – you even run with the ref almost. like you don't even trust them to potentially take the hand off and run with it it's like put your hand on his back you bring him with you almost so here we go yeah here you go fucking put it down right here there started to be a trend where people

just started putting the ball down but then the d lineman would just kick it which by the way smart you should do minnesota did a good job did you notice minnesota did a good job of holding guys down but not long enough to get a penalty and they would systematically kind of bump into whoever the receiver was trying to it was awesome they would like just give them a little bump like i'm just walking here and you ran into me like they they took off a few seconds doing those little gamesmanship tricks i wish they would have done that last week uh yeah but then they learned they learned harrison smith said this ain't happening again no i'm fucking putting my right hand through this guy's hand ball that was an un-fucking-believable play and mooth and mooth

is going to feel terrible right i think if we know anything about prior mooth he's a young tight end he's going to feel terrible i think that is just a hell of a play on the other side i don't think mooth should be you know distracted distraught about himself yeah i don't know how he was able he was supposed to bring that in because the second he got those two hands on the ball that punch is coming you can see it harrison smith that punch is 16 inches away right there he makes contact and he hits the ball directly in three defenders what a throw what an almost catch right there yeah that was good on good and then uh ben's all the way back to being Ben, by the way, because they asked Ben about Claypool and maybe Ben teaching him or something like that.

And Ben's like, that's not my fucking job. Classic. He made the hits, Ben. That's awesome. Bury somebody else. Classic him. Yeah. Hey, Nick, so you've been kind of quiet back there.

What are your thoughts on the game last night? What were your emotions going through that game from first half to second half? Just kind of taking it all in right there, what you guys were going through, and I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head in a lot of points. Echoing the sentiment of Diggs there with what Ben said after the game about Claypool, about that's not on him, that's on Tom. That's kind of a cheapskate way out. It's kind of a pass the buck type of thing, but that's always been Ben.

What got me was in the game, at one point it was either in the late third quarter or the fourth quarter, Brashaw Breeland, I believe it was, one of the cornerbacks of the Vikings, took a penalty and it was a dumb penalty. And Anthony Barr ran right up to him, got in his face, and basically said, what the fuck are you

doing? That's not something you see the Steelers doing to each other. Now we mentioned Trey Turner running up, but I think he was more trying to even just get the ball and and not confront Chase like it just seems like there's a whole lack of accountability on that team and I don't know how you fix that it's been happening for some time hey listen if you're watching along from the outside looking in you gotta think to yourself and this has all been beautifully illustrated on ESPN all morning. I've been watching it here.

I've been up so long. I have not slept much, so I've been up watching this whole thing. Remember Antonio Brown went live in the locker room. We're going to beat those sons of bitches. That was the start. Was that the start of all of this, you think? Well, that's the story. That's the narrative in there.

What is missed is that Tomlin has never had a losing season with any of that, right, in the AFC North with any of that stuff. And maybe that just happens. And when you lose, all these things get brought to light a lot more. But, I mean, Tomlin is in a very interesting position. He said we're going to evaluate who we're going to do it with going forward. What if he just cuts everybody? That would be awesome.

That's fine. I mean, keep Minka, keep Cam, keep TJ. Hey, Minka flies, dude. And Minka can make – I was telling the boys earlier before we started the show, Minka made multiple touchdown saving tackles, I feel like, in the open field against Dalvin Cook that are very, very difficult tackles. Like, Minka saved them many times last night. How come Dalvin looked better than – Yeah, what the heck?

He is so fast fast isn't he he caught a ball the one he caught on the third down what's fucking what a route and i think they even had like their dime personnel in that was a safety covering them that's so tough to cover the running back out of the backfield like that when you can run that well and just a nice ball by kirk too in a huge huge moment so hey something we need to talk about. Primetime Kirk. I mean, there was a lot of stats coming out in the fourth quarter when Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers were getting hot and everybody thought Kirk was going to lose that game. You know, this guy

3-75 in primetime or whatever the case was, but he made some big-time plays last night, some big throws. I mean, going 2-16 with two tuts. Now, he obviously had two picks. Can't have that. A couple of ugly ones. Man.

Yeah. When was the last one he threw? The guy could have taken it all the way to the house. Yeah, it was always a pick six on the right side. Weatherspoon on a pound of cement in his cleats. What was he doing? And then he felt people coming from behind him and kind of stopped. That one right there is like, ooh, this is a game now.

Here we go. Kirk's giving the ball away. But it was just a little – it was the slant that the receiver stopped running. It wasn't even really on Kirk, I don't think. Yeah, that's – and Todd Haley came out today, or maybe it was last night, and tweeted, like, that the wide receivers are the problem. It's not bad. Like, Deontay, who I love, he – yeah, he did kind of cut his slant off short there,

which caused the interception, and it's a mess. Well, that Deontay touchdown he caught, though, to get him going, felt was great. Remember in the end, he was up two dudes. That was beautiful. Hey, how about Deontay getting out of bounds? Yeah. That was another huge play.

You're right. I didn't think he was going to get out of bounds. Huge play. I mean, he had to beat Pat, right? I think he had to beat Pat. Yep. And then he had to get around and back out. And you can't run out of bounds going backwards.

So he actually turned in like went square off the field. There was a lot going on there very quickly. I mean, the Super Bowl is fucking dead. Oh, no, it's not a great play, cuz. That's the problem with all these guys. They make incredible plays, but two plays later, they'll make the best plays. Oh, they live by the highlights, you're saying, Tony. I don't know.

Is it just consistency? I don't know. It seems like it was either the series was really, really bad or really, really good. That's kind of how the Sears offense was. Well, and that's like the Vikings as a whole. Like the first half, they look like one of the best teams in the NFL. In the second half, they look like a team that's lost like eight games

on the last play of the game, which they have. Justin Jefferson's a guy. He's unbelievable. I think Matt Castle was tweeting the last. I mean, it was hard to see tweets. I missed a bunch. He's unbelievable. I think Matt Castle was tweeting last. I mean, it was hard to see tweets. I missed a bunch of them, too. I am so sorry to whoever. I apologize.

I was trying to respond to as many. Matt Castle or Lovsky, it was one of those quarterbacks on the internet. They were like, hey, Justin Jefferson is wide open on crossing routes the entire time right now. He is just wide open. And I don't know if, you know kirk didn't see him a couple different times but man when he gets the ball it is electrifying he is a fucking guy and he always has separation it feels like yeah how that happens when you know he's the guy how about

we haven't even really mentioned dalvin cook running all over this stealer's defense and evy i don't know if you have some of those screen grabs look at this oh my god man look at foxy this is a show pops this thing right up now for the serious listeners. We got a screenshot, I believe, from Gumpy's guy, Warren Sharp, that says, like, how does this happen? And it is Dalvin Cook. The hole he has looks like it's about five yards wide. And there is nobody really in front of him.

There's a safety that looks like he's running to Dalvin. That looks like a punt. Yeah, the safety is going to cover, which I – you can't take too much out of screenshots because he has to check that first. I understand Dalvin Cook is running right down his throat. But can you imagine trying to make that tackle right there? What if you're one of those safeties? Good luck, buddy.

Minka makes this tackle. I know. That's what I'm saying. Minka saved this team many times. That looks almost impossible. Hey, should we not think about Kirk? Maybe he should have kept this one yeah great option yeah you're right but who would you rather have run the ball kirk or

dalvin cook congrats to dalvin cook congrats the offensive line i mean big answer after losing to the fucking lions like you know this was a big time short week game for the minnesota vikings and they bullied the steelers which is i think goes into all the bigger problems the celebrating on the first down or the celebrating on the first down on fourth down with 36 seconds left with no timeouts the the miscommunication coming from the front end of the back I mean there's just there's so much happening in Pittsburgh do you just I think all yinzers go that ain't what we're all about down here good for the Vikings good for the Vikings this game was a perfect depiction of this NFL season. Pittsburgh beats the Ravens last week.

Vikings lose to the Lions. The first half, Vikings dominate. The second half, the Steelers come back. That's been the season for every team this year. Not every team, but a lot of teams this year. AJ, I know you probably brought that up for a reason. The run defense. What the fuck is...

I know they have a bunch of injuries. Yeah, they do. It's a great photo by charlie yeah o-lineman are getting free releases onto the linebackers yeah and so when you have especially when you have you're plugging new d lineman in too you can talk about run fits or you can talk about oh this guy may not be as good as the starter but it doesn't matter he's still a good player but it's it's more like the continuity it's like o-lineman you know when they together, if you have a group of O-line, that they don't have any injuries and they play together all year. They almost have like a sixth sense.

They know. They don't have to talk. They can kind of give little head tilts. They know exactly what the guys are doing next to them. The same thing happens on defense. Those linebackers have to trust that the D-linemen, hey, this D-lineman's in the A-gap, this D-lineman's in the B-gap over here. I know they're going to stay in those gaps.

They're not going to get pushed out of that. I have to play into my gaps. But then all of a sudden you have these new guys come in. Maybe there's some miscommunication. I'm not sure. It gets blasted out of their gap. You try to make up for it. And then guess what?

Linebacker's trying to make up for the D lineman out of their gap. Then linebacker's out of his gap. Then the safeties have to try to make up for that. And everyone's just running around like they're chicken with their head cut off, as the coaches like to say. Although chain reaction fuckery, it sounds like. When you look at this here, when you look at this, do you think this is somebody peeking, or do you think this is just like Will?

Like Will Powell. I mean, did someone just get caved down on that left edge? That's what happens, right, Jay? Aren't they holding, and then if they just peek one way, then the offensive line, like, see you later, right? Yeah, it's hard to tell exactly from this angle. But, I mean, look how wide your end is out there. This had to be a draw, right?

Yeah, I would like to see exactly what it is. Was this third and 100? Yeah, what was it? Well, they picked it up. There are no answers. There are no answers on that. You can just say it, A.J. They stink.

I mean, that's the third string nose tackle and the backup at the end. They're going to get beat because there are backups for a reason. We talked about it yesterday. You can put your positive spin on it. That was very nice of you to do, but there's just a reason that they are slotted in that part of the team and that roster.

They're not meant to be out there. Yenzers don't believe in next man up? What the fuck? What are we even doing out here? Some of the don't believe in next man up. What the fuck? Oh, no. What are we even doing out here? Some of the greatest of all time have been backups. You ever heard the story of Wally fucking Pip, Nick? Yeah. Hey, this team ain't that deep, unfortunately. Okay?

And I felt bad for Naj last night because he hasn't seen a hole like that since Alabama, and he had to just be gritting his teeth over there watching Dalvin Cook running wild like that. I love Naj. Yeah, he's so good.odge. I like him even more. You gotta like him even more. And you can see the, when he caught that touchdown on Barr, he gets up and kind of

pats Barr. He's like, you know, it's tough to cover this. It's a tough route to cover, but and Barr's like, yeah, what am I supposed to do here, man? He had pretty good coverage. It was a great throw and a great route, though. There's nothing you can really do. When Nodge was on the show, he had such a good personality. You know, and when we announced When Naj was on the show, he had such a good personality. And when we announced he was coming on the show,

a lot of people had potentially interacted with him before. We're like, oh, can't wait to see how this goes. Can't wait to see how this goes. Because he has his own personality. I fucking love him. I think the city of Pittsburgh was expecting Naj to be a stealer before the draft happened. And then whenever it was kind of lining up for it to happen, they're like, oh, this is our nausea guy, nausea guy.

He is your guy, and I think they're going to rebuild around him. If they move on from Ben, I think it's going to be like, hey, we got a great running back. Let's figure out how we optimize this dude as much as possible. I think they got a dude there. And you have Fryermuth at the tight end position, who's absolutely going to be a stud for a while. Claypool. Claypool. They have plenty of weapons. for a while. Claypool. Claypool. They have plenty of weapons.

They really do. Claypool, if he figures it out. That guy makes plays. Now, I didn't love yesterday Steve Smith saying that Claypool doesn't run every fucking route. I just assumed everybody's doing that, especially at that level. You know, I guess I'm completely wrong. I would like to ask Steve.

Steve did say that he can eventually. He'll have the ability to run every route, but there's different body types, though. Look at Claypool. He is such a big-bodied dude. Do you need him to run every route? Well, wasn't that the knock on DK Metcalf, too? But look at him.

He's doing way more than just running deep shots. Remember the footage of him coming out? They used to show some of the routes that he would run, and it did not look good, but now you're right. He's a completely different guy, I feel like. So, yeah, it can happen.'re right steve smith also said like they need a veteran wide receiver like that that shit was chase claypool doesn't happen if there is a guy in there that's telling them like hey when we get like a larry for show for instance

when you get down there sprint to the fucking ref and spot the ball because we don't have time and you don't have to tell them that's the thing like when you have guys like that they don't have to go but okay kid kid that's always a big condescending thing when i first got in the league the vets were cute cute cute let me tell you about this and i would instantly just shut down and be like yep you're dead to me if you start out like that like okay i just signed a piece of paper for 50 million fucking dollars let me tell you what you need to do. I'm like, okay, bud, thank you very much. I'll sit there and be polite and then just go about my life.

But I saw it happen where, okay, so like in the receiver room, I was in Green Bay, and I hate to always bring it back, oh, back when I played. But when you watch it happen, like Donald Driver was there. When I got there, Donald Driver's there. Legend. Greg Jennings is in my draft class. So Greg gets to watch Donald, learn from him.

Jordy Nelson gets drafted shortly after. All these guys, and they all take on, they don't mean to or they don't have to, but they're just good dudes that do the right thing. So all the young guys see it. So everybody gets drafted behind them. They're like, yeah, this is what we do. Devontae Adams comes in. Now Devontae's that guy.

So it's very, very valuable, especially that receiver position. That happened at the Colts as well, and I don't want to always talk about back in my day. You know, when we're speaking from our point of view. You know what annoys me? The reason I say that is because it annoys me when people will assume everybody knows where they went to college, and they're on TV, and they're like, oh, well, you know how I am.

I'm a homer, though. I'm like, what do you mean you're a homer? Well, you know, I went to Alcorn State, and I'm talking about Alcorn State. Well, don't ever assume anyone knows where you're from and what you did. Just to clarify some things, I did know that Steve went to Utah. Yeah, so I'm not talking about Steve Smith. I watch people on TV all the time do this. I'm like, wait, I have to wait and say, okay, five minutes later,

I'm like, oh, they went to school there. That's why they're saying that. Yeah, all i'm just at the colts by the way from my perspective marvin harrison reggie wayne reggie wayne to ty i think ty now to pitman is happening you know like that's uh i think that's a pretty common thing in a lot of places and it's not just the wide receiver room although we're talking about the wide receiver it's common for good teams for good teams it's good teams, it's common. Yeah, in every room, I think, right? I think it's every room.

If not, you have to have a really, really good coach. Like a really, really good coach in that room. I honestly believe that. I think you have to have a good vet in every room. And if you have a bad vet, by the way, that can also fuck you over, I think. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah.

That can really cause issues. If you have a bad vet that's going against the coaches but why are we doing this why are we why are we running you know two minute on thursday and just always complaining that can have a huge impact on the young guys well just like the positive stuff of like working hard and making the right decisions can like you know influence the younger guys also having like yeah this is bullshit just kind of like creep into the younger guys. That's not great either. Unless, you know, even if it's right, like even if it's true,

it's like that can also potentially affect an entire culture. Yeah, I'm sure you've had coaches in your time. I know I did where players were like, man, are you kidding me? What are we doing here? And even if you could tell the coach completely disagrees with what the head coach is doing, a good coach is going to be like, guys, I get it. I understand where you're coming from.

I get it. But this is what we're doing. You've got to listen to the head man. There's a bigger plan in place, and you've got to just go with it. Instead of bad coaches, I get it, man. This coach, the head man, he's pretty volatile. He's pretty terrible. So just go ahead and go through the motions and get it done.

Hey, we're on your side here, honestly, the whole fuck's time. The worse you guys do, the better we look in our battles against him as well. But there is, you know, whenever – I think the first time I heard Chuck do the blinders speech, you know, it was after a practice. It might have been after A.Q. Shipley was traded. So A.Q. was – he, like, he started for us. We did good.

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ever in the NFL. We're unable to make that happen. Harrison Smith punches the ball out from Fryer Muth at the very end to end it. Great game, but let's not wait any longer, Pat. Let's bring on the one and only. Everyone knows him. He joins us on Fridays. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Coach JB.

What up? What up? You guys hear me? Oh, yeah. We got you, JB. How's it going, man? What'd you think about that game? How'd that game hit you last night? Man, it was crazy. I fell asleep half drunk, and then I woke up, and it was fucking a ball game.

I was like, shit, what happened here? Ben woke up or took some, you know, fountain of youth or what? What is that fountain of youth you guys think? Don't. You know, probably, yeah. Some moisturizer. He threw a dime to end the game, man. The guy's got to catch the fucking ball.

He was scared as a little fucking hoe in church. Oh, man. You got to end the game, man. The guy's got to catch the fucking ball. He was scared as a little fucking hoe in church. Oh, man. You got to squeeze the ball, man. That fucking was a – that's a touchdown NFL catch. You got to make the catch. You want to be different. Everyone – it's easy to fucking drop it. I mean, I get you.

But how about the throw from Ben? Like, Ben made some throws. Ben still has some juice left in that arm, doesn't he? Fucking dime piece right there. Right there. You got to tuck the ball to your chest right now. He tried. Did you watch it, Jimmy?

He's playing against NFL guys, too. You want to play in the NFL? Be different. He's playing against a very different guy. He's playing against a white dude in the secondary. That motherfucker ain't doing nothing. He ain't busting no grass. I know he's been in the Pro Bowl a couple times,

but fuck, is he scared of that guy? He might be scared of 23. Line him up right there to take his head off. Hey, you know, that's AJ. You know, if you're an offensive guy, you teach that right there. Squeeze, tuck, fetal. Squeeze, tuck, fetal. He tried.

Right now, fetal position. Hey, dog, it's fucking easy right there. It's an easy catch. I don't know if it's an easy catch with Harrison Smith's accuracy like Conor McGregor in his prime. But he's got to catch the ball. Coach JB, Coach JB, what about if they have another play maybe? You know, chase Claypool, the ball winds up on the ground.

What a fucking shit bird, man. What the epitome of a fucking shit bird, man. Shit bird's gone forever, right? Didn't you say you know what a shit bird is? Gone forever? Gone forever. And then he blames the center? Blames the center on the podium for fucking slapping the ball out of his hand?

What did he say? There's a video out there. Someone just sent me. He's like, well, the reason we lost the game is because I got the ball knocked out of my hand. I'm like, you gotta be shitting me. You're gonna deflect that to the center who knocked the ball out to line your ass up and get the ball to the ref. Like, what a fucking enabled cunt.

So, JB, take us through exactly what Chase Claypool should have done once he made that catch to convert that big fourth down. You know what he should have did? You guys watch Larry Fitzgerald when he used to hand the ball and run to the hash and hand the ball to the ref like high and tight like boom hand it to the ref's hand because the refs they're not great fucking i don't think the refs are like pat mcafee athletic all right didn't punt the ball kick the ball they didn't snap the ball they didn't fucking play in the league mostly they're gonna fumble the ball they're gonna chase the ball. They didn't snap the ball. They didn't fucking play in the league, mostly. They're going to fumble the ball. They're going to chase

the ball. They're going to lose the ball. Hand the ball right to his chest, just like you're coaching the kids in practice to hold the ball high and tight. Hand the ball to the ref every single snap and get used to it and further prove it. Chase Claypool, I heard that clip

that you're talking about right there. Chase Claypool said that he thought he was near the hash mark. He thought he had time for the big ref to get in there, and he thought he could get in the ball. And then the reason why it ended up being a problem, actually, because the ball was battled out of his hands. Optically, it looks terrible. He should not have said any of that or done any of that.

How does Tomlin deal with it, you think, at this point? He said who we're going to have next. What does that mean? Yeah, I posted a tweet at halftime. I'm like, did the steelers just quit on tomlin because i i find that hard to believe i'm like no way right and because the way they were playing like there's no way in aj if you watch that game aj you know that the run fits were unbelievably unsound like it wasn't even close like that techniques crashing aj

a true nine techniques crashing and the mic is fitting the same gap there's no spiller and i'm like we got no spiller and and the running back cook just bounces the shit outside yeah i mean look at that shit that's like that doesn't happen that doesn't happen in the nfl too much and i talked about it a little bit earlier on the show it's like a a chain reaction linebackers trying to make up for the d line being out of place and then the safety is trying to make up for the linebackers, and then it's hard to ever get it back in the same page, which they did. And look at that right there, AJ.

Look at that right there, AJ. You know better than anybody. Look at the D-in. He's pass rushing in run games. Yeah, that's the problem. He creates that gap. He creates that giant gap when you're so wide. Yeah, he's not even wrong-arming that shit. He ain't wrong-arming it. He's not fucking fighting it with his feet.

His pad level's shitty. I'm like, yo, where the fuck's the mic at? I'm guessing the mic's getting smothered. Is the mic getting smothered between those two O-linemen right there? Hell yeah. And that's easy money because the double team, look at the double team. Like, holy fuck, they're allowing the double team

to just get walked to the linebacker depths. Well, even if, let's say that that mic gets over top of those linemen, Dalvin Cook's just going to run away from them, run towards the sideline. No doubt. You see that safety over there? Or shake them to earn a scholarship. I mean, yeah, it's not an easy tackle. Minka makes the tackle there, which is unbelievable.

I wanted to switch real quick, Coach JB. So, Lincoln Riley's at USC out there, right in your backyard. There's a lot of reports that people think Lincoln Riley's going to come in. This team's going to the playoffs next year. Guys are flipping coming to usc what are your thoughts this is what i think like it's all good everyone the the people that were following him to oklahoma switched and followed him to sc that's kind of the norm, I think, nationally. But let's not forget, it's been two kids. It ain't 30. And the thing is, it's easy to recruit L.A. kids to Oklahoma, Alabama, Clemson. It's easy to get L.A. kids out of L.A. right now.

I want to see how he does with keeping L.A. talent in L.A., which either school, UCLA or SC, has been able to do in the last six, seven years. Hey, will you explain why LA talent's such a big deal and who all the motherfuckers out of LA are right now in the college football landscape? Well, the Heisman winner's gonna win the Heisman. He's from LA. I mean, the other guy, Stroud, he's from LA.

Clemson's quarterback's from LA. Fucking Ole Miss's quarterback, who was in the argument of a Heisman, is from LA. Clemson's quarterback's from LA. Fucking Ole Miss's quarterback, who's up, you know, was in the argument of a Heisman, is from LA. I mean, shit, the number one recruit in America is from LA. I mean, right now. So I don't know, like, why are we losing the talent to other schools is what's been the issue because I think the SC and UCLA is so bad. I believe that it's the culture and the demographic

of not having your own stadium, walking across, you know, like a historic landmark, like a Clemson or an Oklahoma and tapping something like Ohio State and walking into your arena. You got to get on a bus, drive to fucking Pasadena

if you're UCLA, 40 minutes, sitting in traffic, maybe for an hour from Westwood. And then SC, you got to walk around to the Coliseum. It ain't on your campus. It ain't far, but it ain't on your campus. And it's

a stadium that's used by everybody and their mom. NFL teams, fucking concerts. I mean, it ain't your own shit. And I think kids started getting tired of that. They started losing. Is that what Drake and Kanye were last night? I think that would be something that would sell. I don't know.

I don't listen to either one of those fucks. I don't know. I don't even know what the hell they were doing or what it was about. So it's all, I don't know. Criminal justice reform. Hey, free Larry Hoover. They said they were having a concert to free Larry Hoover and for criminal justice reform. I assume you're okay with that. Yeah, yeah i'm fine i didn't know what it was or

hey let's move around college football a little bit here okay lincoln riley goes to usc how do you feel about the mario cristobal to miami with manny and then both recruiting and mario going back and spitting some sp in the press conference. How you doing? It's great to be back. That feels like a perfect fit. The whole process, though, is so fucked. Yeah, I think Miami is being tabbed as probably one of the shadiest universities in America right now because of how they handled Manny Diaz firing.

He's literally in a home of a recruit, and there's literally two head coaches at his university at the same time before he's fired. That's some shady shit in my opinion. It is. But JB, didn't he take the temple job for like five days before he took the Miami job?

Yes, he did. But what I'm saying is though, he told temple I was leaving. I'm the first one on my show to say that was a shitty deal. Cause I had two kids going to temple when he got the job and the next day he's at Miami. So I called him out for that. No doubt about it. But the university is what I'm talking about, not Manny here or Mario. I'm talking about how the university handled it. And then Oregon came out yesterday.

If you didn't see the A.D. and called Miami out on how they handled and circumvented the process and went behind Oregon's back and reached out to Mario and Oregon made it a, a point to you reach out to UCLA yesterday, I guess, and asked for permission to speak to chip Kelly and all this. I think people are getting lost that this is a huge professional business. Now it's not, it's not amateurism anymore. It wants the transfer portal

created nfl free agency at the college level in my opinion and then the nfl i mean college coaches making nfl coaching money it's no longer a fucking amateur deal this is professional football now man and these coaches are making this money and uh i don't know pat i equate it to everyone saying well mario can leave oregon so why can't all the kids uh just enter the transfer portal because mario has earned the right to make a salary and get his and make a right to earn a salary for his family and better his life right because he's earned that right he's fucking 50 or whatever i believe he's gone through the experiences of life and has earned the right to do so. These kids are 18, 19, 20.

Even though they're so-called adults, they haven't earned the right. They don't pay a mortgage, really. They didn't put a kid through college. They don't fucking know shit. So they need to shut the fuck up and stay put and compete. Connor, you got time. Never would have guessed that take from you, by the way. Never would have guessed that.

Go ahead, AJ. Sorry, buddy. Connor, what's up? Yeah, Coach AB, how do you feel about the MCDC first win in the Lions, and was it kind of similar to your first win in the locker room after? You know, I don't know if I watched it. No, it wasn't similar to my first win at all. But, you know, to me, Connor, I'm going to be honest with you, man.

A win and a loss to me, I treated it the damn same. Unless we won the bowl or won the championship. You know, fuck it. It's go time. It's ready to get over. It's a Pete Carroll deal. 24-hour rule. It's over.

On to the next one. So my face never changed, win or lose. But when he started crying on the podium, I told you, everybody, he was going to fucking lose every game. They won a game. Kudos to him. I'm glad he won a game and got, got him over the hump.

And Hey man, I, I, I got to pull my foot out of my mouth. Cause I said, I didn't think Detroit was going to play for him much longer after the cry baby thing, but they're playing for him.

They are playing hard for the guy. I mean, but they're also playing for paychecks in the NFL, but I do believe they're playing hard for the guy and the way they interacted with playing for paychecks in the nfl but i i do believe they're playing hard for the guy and the way they interacted with them after that win you could tell they're there with them it's not like they're just standoffish from the guy digs what he got jb uh you know a lot of coaches obviously in the college landscape um are you surprised or do you know why uh none of brian kelly's uh assistants or guys that he's been with for a long time,

a lot of them stayed at Notre Dame. A lot of them decided not to go with him down to LSU. A lot of people from LSU are potentially going other places. Any idea why that's going on? Well, first of all, he fired a, like, an LSU legend like a couple days ago. And that guy ended up getting a job at Florida right away. Who, like, strength coach or something? No, I think he's a running back coach he's a great he was great

not fault not fault it's the db coach i want to say um because he didn't retain falk either but kevin falk uh not marshall but they uh they he didn't retain him and i guess a bunch of people came out and was bashing him for it because the guy's like fucking LSU through and through played there, has kids that played there, all kinds of shit. And then he hired Wilson, who was the head coach at McNeese state, who basically just signed a class and then just quit on them and took the job, took the running back job at LSU. He's a, he's a known as a go getter. He's from Louisiana.

So he left an FCS head job to go be a running back job at LSU. He's a, he's a known as a go-getter. He's from Louisiana. So he left an FCS head job to go be a running back coach at LSU, which makes sense. I mean, he's going to make fucking triple his salary at the, as a position guy. But I don't know, man, you know, it's they're pissed off at him. And I think it's just like the Nick Saban deal when he got on the plane to go to Michigan, from Michigan state to LSU. Nobody got on the plane with him. It's very similar. I don't know if you guys saw the report. I don't know if you guys know who Coach Graham

is. He's now the head coach at Hawaii. He was at Tulsa, Arizona State. A few places. Kids have came out now calling him basically a drill sergeant. He calls them shit birds and calls them this and that. Pieces of dog shit and

all this and it's like fuck man we it's like fuck everybody just wants to get the guy fired everybody wants to get everybody fired now i've never heard one good thing about graham he wears the little the little mouthpiece or the little uh headset didn't he yes yes yes the britney spears thing she used to have, yeah. Yeah, the Britney Spears of coaches. Hey, Ty has something for you, JP. But he's also the full metal jacket of coaches, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Coach JB, Joe Brady getting fired in Carolina. He obviously was getting, you know, I mean, we had someone on who said he got five NFL coaching interviews. He had the unbelievable offense with Joe Burrow at LSU. Do you think he'll be a guy who will get one of these big-time college football jobs maybe before the start of next season, or what do you think he's going to do next? Oh, absolutely. He'll get it, and he's undeserving as fuck. It's unbelievable, man.

These guys appoint these guys or anoint these guys as the next best thing. First of all, Brady was the co-OC at LSU with the most loaded roster in the nation. OK, let's go there first. He had one good year. He gets hired by a guy who's also very inexperienced at the NFL level. at the NFL level. I blame the ownership because the owner hired an inexperienced NFL coach who there goes and hires an inexperienced

coordinator, and now you wonder why that thing's imploding. So now the coordinator gets fired first, of course. Shit rolls downhill. And now you're hearing that Matt Rule's going to be fired. So, you know, I don't know. Seven-year deal, right? Didn't he sign a seven-year deal? Is Matt Rule? Is he really? Are they really threatening that they may fire Matt Rule's going to be fired. So, you know, I don't know. Seven-year deal, right? Didn't he sign a seven-year deal?

Is Matt Rule, is he really, are they really threatening that they may fire Matt Rule? I've heard, I've heard stories, man. I've heard stories. And you know what? Rule's a good dude, man. I've had good conversations with him when he was at Temple and different places.

He recruited a running back for me and we've had good conversation and I have nothing ill will against the guy. He's a good dude, I think. But I go back to results oriented you're a you're a rookie head nfl guy who makes rookie decisions on hiring a guy because it's he's a he's a one hit hit a quitter he had one hitter quitter which he was a co-oc past game coordinator and now he's tabbed as this great guru he's never been a head coach brady looks like the fucking kid from the Brady Bunch.

Is it the media, though? JB, do you blame the media? Is this the media that pumps them up and makes them like they're a superhero? Media, fucking agents get involved. You guys know agents talk to agents. They all are tied in together, and those agents make power moves with each other, and they keep the fraternity in the tight circle. They keep that circle tight.

And, you know, it's hard to get in that circle once you're not in it. Like, if you're out of that circle, it's hard to get in there. And he's in there right now. And I wouldn't be shocked if he gets Oregon or – I wouldn't be shocked if he gets – What if he's good? Do you think there's any chance of him being good? Like, for instance, Cliff Kingsbury, like, didn't win shit, right, in college.

But he has become a great NFL head coach. Now, he said today or yesterday, coach of the year is Bill Belichick. Every fucking year, Bill Belichick's coaching. So what are we even doing? And he used to play for the Patriots. But I think he wasn't like that. Was it because you think he learned how to command the team,

or do you think he got a little bit more diligent in his scheduling? How do you think guys go and get better? Oh, it's real simple how why wasn't he a great fucking coach when they had no when they when they had fucking josh rosen now he's a great coach he got fucking jj watt he got fucking he got fucking the defensive line. He got players. That motherfucker ain't no different. He got players.

He's the same shitty fucking coach he was in college. Bro. I'm just telling you. He's another guy that loved my office. Really? Hey, JB, what do you think of Coach Mike McCarthy? It wasn't like a big, bold, I'm guaranteed that we're going to win. But he did say that we're going to win this game. Do you have an issue with that?

All right. Pat, where are you at? The Snooty Fox? Bro, I am in... I slept on cardboard last night, JB. I got bed bugs in my pants right now, probably. The Snooty Fox is like a whole-role motel in L.A. that's got a big old heart mirror on the roof

so you can see yourself fucking. I'm not at that. I'm not at the, what's that other one? The documentary one? Cecil. Cecil Hotel. Cecil. Some legendary places for sure.

I am in LA. Quick stop though. This weather's gorgeous though, JB. It's been raining out here, man. It's fucking pissing me off. What? You're in a drought, dude. See, I'm an hour east of you right now, so it's been raining out here. Rain? Oh, it's been raining for three days out here.

Man, nothing but sunshine over here and weed deliveries. It's awesome. It looks like it. I see it coming off, reflecting off your face. No, no, no, no. JB, they deliver it right to the door. It's the... I'm not going to ever call out the weed. I'm talking about the sun reflecting off your face right now. I can see

sunlight, and I'm looking at a fucking cloudy Kansas weather. Well, AJ's back there in Indiana, and I don't know. I'm not there, but I assume the weather's terrible. Yeah, it's raining. in Indiana, and I don't know. I'm not there, but I assume the weather's terrible. Yeah, it's raining. AJ looks pretty slick, man. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh, JB. Uh-oh. Every day's an interview, dog. Every day's an interview. FanDuel might be calling your motherfucking name. JB, Army, Navy, who's going to win? Answer your question about McCarthy. You know, I think he was just doing something for himself on that one.

I think he was doing it to hype himself up and get the guys kind of like, all right, I need you guys to step up for me right now because people don't think I can call a game as a head coach and I need to fucking get you guys to back me. And, you know, let's quarterback back them at least. So, you know, I think everybody else will follow suit. Yeah, it's a message to the team. I think the team loves that.

They probably see Mike McCarthy in their team meetings, and they love it. And then Mike does, I think, I don't think he loves doing media stuff. So, I think he sometimes goes into his cliche coach speak, whatever. How come he hasn't been on this show, AJ? Why hasn't he been on the show? Let's ask him. Go ahead. Okay. When you play for him. he been on the show? Let's ask him. Go ahead. Okay.

You played for him. Call him right now. We need to ask him. Have you guys ever asked Aaron about what he thinks of him after taking all this heat from the Cowboys? Yeah, well, yeah. Aaron talks about Mike a lot. Yeah, he references him a lot.

I've heard that he's a fucking genius. Like, all these people are talking all this shit, but I'm sure Aaron knows. I've heard the guy knows his shit, obviously, and especially on the offensive side. So you wonder, you know, if the Cowboys have another shitty-ass performance like the other last couple weeks,

if that motherfucker don't start calling the games again. Well, I mean, let's see what happens. Hey, Connor really wants me to ask you about the Army-Navy game. JB, what are your thoughts on that? Who's going to win that sucker? Yeah, that's the only game I got written down here, man. Army's favored by seven. They're eight and three.

You know, Kenny over, Polynesian head coach over at Navy, good dude, man. He's having a rough season, three and eight. Coach Nia Matalolo? Yes. All the cadets-8. Coach Nia Matalolo? Yes. All the cadets. Huh? Coach Nia Matalolo? There you go.

I didn't want to fuck it up. So, hey, I got Army covering the 7, man. I got Army winning that one. And it's going to be, you know, I think they're all going to break out some new uniform and shit uh like they do every year um hey let me ask you guys this back to pat's question i didn't answer all the way mario leaving oregon so chip kelly goes to the nfl oregon has phil knight and nike so they got a million and 16 uniform combinations with the helmets to match they have the best facilities in America. They just, they're putting in brand new facilities.

So why the fuck is the coaches leaving every single time for a lateral position or even a lesser job? Willie Taggart goes to Florida state, which was the beginning of his demise, right? Now you got Mario leaving Oregon and going to Miami, who Miami has intramural facilities, by the way. Have you ever been there? They're bad.

Like still, they haven't upgraded in a while? No, they're bad, man. Miami's a bad situation. They share a baseball field with like half of the football field. Like it's a lot of shit going on there that's not very great. Now they're upgrading some shit, I hear. But I've been there one time it wasn't very good and i'm just like why are people leaving maybe green oregon's not

as green as they say no it's because hey jb it's in you may be just thinking this and this might not be right but pac-12 has been dead dude pac-12 is fucking dead if usc comes back i think that oregon job gets even more like desirable you know know what I mean? I think just the Pac-12 being completely dead for some time is the reasoning for that. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, I posted it on Twitter. I posted the facilities and I asked, you know, is it really great? Maybe it's not as green as everyone says.

Everyone's like, have you ever been to Eugene? And I'm like, yeah, it's fucking rains. I get it. But it's not fucking Alaska. It's not that cold, dude. Like you're a fucking hour and a half flight from la you're you're on the pacific northwest like you have the facilities and fucking nike like come on man i i don't know i just like you're getting paid pretty good money

you can recruit everybody they killed la and recruiting like they got the best number one player in the country tibideau who declared for the draft. I mean, he'll be the number one or two D in taking. I don't know, man. Shout out to Jermaine Johnson, by the way, my former kid. ACC player of the year and first team All-American yesterday. So he was the guy that shied away from the camera. He never really wanted to be on the camera, and he did his thing, man. So he bet on himself.

He drafted pretty good. JBb last thing for me like so phil knight in nike he basically makes oregon like he's a huge reason why they have had success in all of their sports because they have unbelievable facilities they have a billion different uniforms that like entice these kids isn't there any other billionaires out there that can go and try to juice their university up and do what he did to oregon under armor guy did it and he started trying to get it what happens is once the under armor guy starts to spread out thin and then you get ucla and then you get all these schools now buying your shit i don't think you can focus on one school phil knight's done it better than anybody in my opinion because he's still oregon through and through like he's worn throughout the nation.

And it was funny. I saw D, but he posted a thing like Miami. You better get out of that Adidas shit and get into Nike. And I'm like, dude, it ain't happening. Bill Knight ain't giving Nike shit to fucking Miami. So it's interesting, right? Because. Yeah, you heard that right.

Mario had a contract on his desk before they played for the Pac-12 title game against Utah and got fucking drugged through the mud by Utah, and he didn't sign it. It was like a 10-year deal or whatever. And Phil Knight's sitting there like, okay, motherfucker. So I think that's kind of burned a bridge, in my opinion. That's why Chip Kelly and he had a good relationship. So he's like, give me fucking Chip Kelly back here.

He'll respect the fact that I got a waffle maker with rubber and I put some shoes on this thing and now we're bazillionaires. Maybe, yeah. I'm curious, though, what's your take on it? How does Chip do well at Oregon? And by the way, he inherited a Mike Pilati structured program, which was already pretty legit. But Chip took it to the next level, got him in the natty,

and then he's been dog shit ever since. I'm just saying, he was talking about getting fired at UCLA. You're in LA. Like, you can't win at UCLA. I don't know, man. I just think the people that have left Oregon, it has started their demise, the beginning of their demise. They've been shitty ever since they left Oregon. Like i'd stay in oregon if i was one of these

motherfuckers it's got to be tough i would imagine going from oregon where you have everything at your disposal there's probably you know blank checks for everything and then you go to other places like hey there's actually like a budget here and you have to abide by this you can't just go buy everything you want hey what do you know what do you know about that oregon budget what phil just has to sign off on everything or they have an unlimited budget? What is it? Nah, there's still legalities. Like, NCAA still has to,

there's still a bunch of infrastructure and legalities that the university athletic departments have to go through. You know, they get donors and shit that they need, you know, Phil Knight, I'm sure, needs a million fucking write-offs. So he's going to have to send money over there.

But I don't think, it still has to go through and get approved by PAC 12, NCAA. It's not just, you can't. So could like for the, with the name image,

likeness stuff, like a lot of these Nike deals and shit that you get in the NFL, it's just like you get gear basically. They can basically do that, right? They can get them a Nike gold or a Nike, whatever that is. Um,

website login and every kid can get like $1,500 which is like three shirts. Get like $1,500 worth of Nike gear. That's something that they could easily add into the whole fucking thing, right? I think so, yeah. But look it, there's only how about the Ubers or whatever

his name is, kid. You asked me about a couple weeks ago. This guy made a million dollars in NIL at Ohio State. he's a third string quarterback yeah he made him he had a million got a million dollar deal at ohio state he's a third string quarterback enters the portal and goes to texas uh with sark now and like i'm like he was a high school kid like left early and you go and enter the portal get an nil thing but how how hard must it be aj to ask you how hard must it be for a coach to address a team where maybe one or two guys are getting nils and the backup left tackle the backup corner and the backup quarterback are looking at you

yell at the team they're like motherfucker this guy's making money i don't make shit i got a fucking fast foot check yeah i mean hey it's a real thing like we'll see i think as time goes how that plays out but the quinn ewers thing he he left high school early to come to get basically hey i can get paid and hopefully it works out here if not i can go somewhere else is like you said i didn't so he's committed to texas now is that where he's going that's the rumor yeah i guess that's out here tell you what, I'm watching that dude's tape, though. Watching his tape, he can sling it. America created a NFL free agency thing. But the problem is the other team's not getting a trade back like the NFL.

So you can basically just enter and leave and go anywhere you want, but you're not getting anything in return. There's 3,100 kids, I think, in the portal right now for football alone. return there's 3,100 kids I think in the portal right now for football alone there's over 10,000 kids in college athletics in the portal of all sports so like come on man it's becoming it does work out sometimes though JB look at Alabama's top receiver came from Ohio State yeah I mean it happens and shit I I won uh I won like 20 bucks on fanduel last night too that shit happens every blue you didn't take the super boost thank god for you that's for sure because the stealers we're not i lost because he forgot he even had a bet on the fucking thing kind of aj 3100 in the

portal there'll be like 110 kids scooped up oh yeah i don't know how it's gonna play out it's tough it adds a whole new thing to coaching which i don't know how people coach in college with recruiting and all that where's everybody else going juco no there's juco's being killed what do you just stay then a lot of teams just go to the portal and they're like well i guess i'm not going anywhere the portal the portal is now like the alabama of of transferring it's like you're in you're in alabama but you're really in a fucking cloud sitting there thinking you're going to go to Alabama or Clemson or wherever. You're not going.

There's only one Alabama. There's only 127 D1s. How many kids do you think they're taking? They're only taking the select kid. So they don't have school. They're not in a school or anything when they're in Florida. What are they? They're just hanging out at home? No, they're just sitting there. Yeah. And so what's happening is now JUCO's getting affected and high school is actually getting affected in

a great way because high school kids aren't being recruited as much and either is juco in the same manner because the transfer portal kid is sitting there and it's an adult thing man i don't know if you it's an it's a grown folk problem We're giving out trophies to every participation. We're giving out participation trophies, A. But it starts with the grown-ups because a Nevada O-lineman entered the portal last week and 70 coaches contacted him within 10 minutes.

70 D1 coaches contacted a Nevada O-lineman. He's as average as fuck, right? 70 coaches offered Nevada's O-linemen, like, in 10 minutes in the portal. They said the portal, boom,

because they got coaches just monitoring the portal. So, boom, we call this guy. Well, you're the reason everyone is entering the portal. Stop calling these motherfuckers. Make them fucking stay home and compete. Like, quit offering them another scholarship. Like, I don't know, man. It's crazy.

These kids are just jumping around like crazy. I get their circumstances. I get that. Like, I can see, you know, a coach tells you in your home in front of your mama, I'm going to do X, Y, and Z, and then you get to campus, and that motherfucker took the Miami job. I can see, fuck you, you lied to me, right? In my opinion, you're a piece of shit.

You shouldn't be coaching, in my opinion. But anyway, let's be honest in the household with the kid, at least. Hey, man, if if if my dream job does come open. Yes, I may have taken it, mom and dad. And I used to do it all the time and I still get the kid. They used to ask me, Pat, all the time. Kids, parents, after the first year, I'm in a home recruiting. They're like, hey, man, now you're famous and shit i'm like man i ain't no fucking famous i'm the same motherfucker he's like but what if sc calls you i'm like what if they do would you go yes and they look at me like oh everyone else says no i'm like no yes i'm going back to a home in la to usc and leaving a town of nine people in k. Yes, I am.

But I'll tell you this. The place he's coming is a better place than what it was when I got here. And this is still the best option for this guy, for your kid. And the odds of me leaving are 1%. And these coaches got to be honest with the man. And they're not. They're lying to him is what makes it worse. And that's what makes kids spiteful and enter the portal on a higher level, too,

which I understand. But also the kidneys earn their rights. They're lying to them is what makes it worse, and that's what makes kids spiteful and enter the portal on a higher level too, which I understand, but also the kidneys earn their rights. Well, I think too, JB, that's where you can lie to them. You can say, well, if I get that, yes, I'm going to SC, and I will do everything in my power to bring you with me, buddy. You're going to play at USC. You can't wait for that one. You're a Trojan, man. You're not going to wait independence.

That is a thing coaches do too. But at the same time, they don't get the job and then they end up losing the kid all the way around. They don't get them at Oklahoma either. You know what I mean? So it's kind of a double-edged sword. You gotta be careful. Cause they had their for show money, looking for no money and ended up with no money. Perfect. You're, you're a lot more politically correct than me because when we were young we used to call it

you rather get some for show pussy or no pussy you can take that to anything you know you can apply that same line to many other things no doubt you can't it's very applicable JB appreciate you man we're going to get to our first break here this hour

but JB thank you so much man appreciate your Appreciate your time, your perspective on everything. I did a great video, too, yesterday for Pat. I thought that was awesome. Yeah, very cool of you, dude. Much love, you guys, man. I appreciate you. I'll see you next week. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Coach JB.

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That's the only problem. Real limited on where you can throw it. I am not like Gronk right now. I do not have a big catch radius when I wear this jacket. But you know what? We can figure it out. What do you want to ask Lombardi about, Pat, whenever he gets on here?

I'm going to thank him. I'm going to thank Lombo a little bit. And then I'll let you kind of guide the conversation where we want to ask Lombardi about, Pat, whenever he gets on here? I'm going to thank him. I'm going to thank Lombo a little bit, you know, and then I'll let you kind of guide the conversation. I mean, the Patriots chatter is something real. Joe Brady conversation. Yeah. Real because he has a Sunday coach down there. But I asked him for some advice before the first negotiation,

and it was fucking powerful. It was powerful what he told me. I fucking love Lombardi. Can you tell us what he told you? I'll wait until... I don't know if he... Because he does a lot of speaking. I don't want to take his...

I don't want to take his... I think he's actually down in Texas doing a speaking gig for Exxon Mobil or something like that. He just did. Can I sign up to speak for ExxonMobil? They got plenty of cash to pay you. I know that.

You probably could, but you charge $20,000 to $30,000. Oh, yeah. So what happened? What happened? If you want to go speak, hey, come have A.J. Hawk speak to the company. You're charging $20,000 to $30,000 to do that.

I saw it was on the internet. It was on the internet screenshot. First off, I haven't seen that, and it's a complete lie, because I would definitely charge more than that to come speak. I'm just letting you know right now. I do give speeches, and I would not go down there. I'm not saying anything. I'm only going to do it if it's too good to turn down.

That's what I'm saying. That's the only way I'm leaving. Hey, those speeches, the companies are terrible. Speaking to companies. Most of them are terrible. No, I'm saying you can make them fun. You can make them good, though. Lombardi, hey, hold on, Pat.

Hold your thought there because he's on the line. So let's bring him on here. A guy who I think just got done with a speaking gig, knows that in and out he writes books. He's amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi. Hey! Lombardi!

I apologize for the bad camera angle here. I got it fixed. Okay, there we go. You look good. You always look good. I can't hear you for shit. Are you speaking for the big oil companies down there, Lombardi? You know, I don't know.

It was one of those things that kind of fell in my lap, and I thought it was a pretty good opportunity for me to do it, so I took full advantage of it. Hey, you're probably – I watch your TED Talk. It's awesome. It's fucking amazing. Obviously, your daily coach. I read that full advantage of it. Hey, you're probably, I watch your TED Talk. It's awesome. It's fucking amazing. Obviously, your daily coach. I read that.

It's incredible. You have a way with words and you've been in a position of power and leadership that only few have in the past and have gone through negotiations in big time money conversations that not a lot of people know about and have been a part of programs. And not a lot of people know about. When you gave me that piece of information going into my first negotiation, I can't thank you enough for that. I mean, that was fucking awesome. You changed my entire mindset. Well, I think oftentimes we always think negotiations,

we've been treated as if we're in the ones at the disadvantage. And when you have something to offer, you have an advantage. And I think your specialty certainly does. And, you know, it's like a player. You could never overpay a great player. You could never overpay a great player. You could always overpay a mediocre player. You could just never overpay a great player. And in a negotiation, if you're a great player, you've got to think that way.

And I think certainly you do. It was awesome. And I don't want to give away too much of your business sense for free to people, but you told me, you hey if they counter they're saying that your number's wrong and that was like a that was like uh that was a complete mindset changer for me it was like they're saying that your number's wrong if they counter to you just something to think about and remember that and that's going to happen in every negotiation and shit yeah i i think when you when you put a number out there especially considering that you're doing

it so far in advance, that, you know, you give it thought. And like a player comes to you and says, hey, I want this. The market is pretty well set. You know what the market is. And so, you know, and remember, time equals money. So when you're signing a contract before your contract's up, you're basically giving a discount. So there's got to be a little bit of a value added to that.

So I'm extremely happy. I don't think I helped you very much. I think it was all you, but I'm extremely happy to be a part of it. It was awesome, AJ. Sorry about that. That is awesome, but also you want to negotiate when things are going well, too. That helps a lot. Things are always going well

for you right now. Hey, for show money, mo money, for show money no money you know no money yeah there's a there's a potential couple things there you know you gotta wait i appreciate you bison sorry go ahead aj i'm here to help whatever you need you know i'll always help you you know that it's it's my pleasure i think it's i think it's good and then what you did for charity i think is really incredible because you know like it's good. And then what you did for charity, I think is really incredible. Because, you know, it's like when Melfi told Tony Soprano, you know, you can't eat all the ravioli. All the pasta. You can't have it all, right?

And I thought that was just so generous on your part to be able to come and give back to people that need it. I think that's really touching. And I think we, as a society, especially around Christmas time, we need to understand that the gifts aren't for us, they're for others. Man, that's very nice of you. Thank you, Paisan. That's very, very nice and real. Go ahead, AJ.

That's awesome. And pivoting, Lombardi, what do you think? Last night, you watched the game. What are your thoughts? I know people feel very strong about the Chase Claypool. When he converts the fourth down, would they have gotten another play if he would have ran that ball to the official what are your thoughts in the game I was cursing Mike Tom I was cursing Mike Zimmer for not running the ball on that last third down he had like he he cost himself all that

time you know and so for me you know that was one of the biggest mistakes in the game you could pick on Claypool but I thought that Zimmer really his mismanagement at the one of the biggest mistakes in the game. You could pick on Claypool, but I thought that Zip, really his mismanagement at the end of the game was really a problem. And he looks like Al Capone when he gets back. Yeah. Trouble over here. Oh, no, we're at the banquet table with Al Capone. I'm not Italian like Pat claims to be.

You know, Claypool's got to grow up. Like, there's no time to celebrate. It's a time to win. Win the game. And I've never seen a team as lucky in the fourth quarter as Pittsburgh. They came back against the Chargers. I mean, they had the ball all the time in the fourth quarter. They made that miraculous comeback.

And then last night they had no business being in the game. I mean, how does Cousins throw that slant for an interception? Like, how do you do that? Like, sometimes your opponent isn't the other team. It's the clock. It's the clock. Yeah. And the situation will call for it, right?

And I think that's a big deal that some people don't understand and some people do. And I think that, you know, that organization, that dynasty that you were a part of up there in New England, always had the game management. You're doing great. The game management situation is all figured out. All the situational football was going to get aced.

Were you, and I wanted to talk to you immediately after the game on Monday, and we're getting you now because you've been very busy and we appreciate and respect the hell out of that. We all knew Belichick was going to win that game, right? I mean, as soon as that weather was at 35 miles an hour, you know Bill was going to win. That's a given that Bill Belichick wins. Well win that game, right? I mean, as soon as that weather was at 35 miles an hour, you know Bill was going to win. That's a given that Bill Belichick wins. Well, let me give you a little background.

So they practiced on Friday in the bad weather, right? Mac Jones threw one incompletion and a 30-mile-an-hour win in the bad weather. Literally, he threw one incompletion in practice in the bad weather. It was a 35-mile-an-hour howling win. He threw one. So you say, well, why did he throw it in the game? Well, I think what happens in that game, and Pat, you've punted in that place before, and you're not on the field. You don't know the wind is coming sideways. AJ, I don't know how much you played in that state, but the wind

direction is changing on a continual basis in that stadium. I know the TV people kept saying the wind's going left to right, but there were times on the field that it wasn't. In that game, McCourty was calling the defenses according to the swirling wind. In fact, when J.C. Jackson and Mills made that play near the bench over on the Buffalo sideline, that was all McCourty. McCourty checked into the play. McCourty checked into the defense,

which rolled the coverage, which almost gave him an interception. And that was all predicated by the wind. That wasn't predicated by the call in the huddle. That was predicated by the side wind. So the side wind was really the factor in the game. The wind coming right to left was important, but that side wind made it so hard. And I think if you're a Buffalo fan, you got the ball first and goal with the six.

You got to run Josh Allen four times. You got to run Josh Allen four times. You can't waste it there. You got to try to put the ball in his hands four times. So I think the way they played the game was, look, everybody says Belichick should have run the ball, thrown the ball. They outgained him running the ball. They averaged more per play running than they did throwing. What do they need to throw it? They felt like if they threw it, something happened. And I don't think we understood how much the wind was a factor in the swirlingness inside the stadium lombardi can you

explain a little bit when you said mccordy was calling the defense depending on the wind the side to side wind like what exactly is he doing there so they were rolling the coverage to the where the where the only side of the field you could throw the ball to so they knew where he knows like by the wind okay there's no chance he can throw over here, so we're going to roll the coverage over here. Wind's blowing on this series. He's got to throw the ball over here because if he throws it to the other side, he's never going to catch it.

He can't control it. In fact, in pregame, they decided that unless the ball was inside the 10 in the open end of the stadium, not where the locker rooms are, the other end, they wouldn't even try a field goal. There's no way. Nick Folk told him, you have to almost aim it 20 yards outside to be able to bring it in. So when he tried that field goal, nobody on their bench thought he was going to make it.

They all thought it was going to be a bad kick. Do you think Buffalo was rolling their coverages as well? Huh? Do you think Buffalo was rolling their coverages as well? Do you think think Buffalo was rolling their coverages as well? Do you think that is the difference? I think Buffalo was hanging on for dear life. Buffalo's not a big team. Matt Milano played safety in college. Ed Oliver's not a big, they're not a big team. You know, the first play, the first third down of the game when Nige Harris drops that pitch, that's a touchdown. You go and watch it on tape. Trent Brown's out there going to block the corner.

They're going to run it to the end zone. I mean, they just out-executed him in a game that they needed to out-execute him in. And Bill loves it, right? Hey, Bill fucking loves that shit. He loves it. There's no better line than when he tells the team, get your stuff on and get outside.

There's no better line. Just get your S on and get outside. Like, he could care less what the weather. In fact, I think he enjoys it. It keeps him from getting bored, I would imagine. I'm sure he doesn't get bored, but, hey, anything new to your routine, your plan that changes up, it's got to be kind of invigorating for him. I think one of the sins of losing toughness in your team is these indoor facilities.

Oh, shut the fuck up oh we gotta run perfect plays we gotta have the ball that can't touch the ground yeah max out there on friday in 30 degree in 35 hold on we had an indoor practice so we practice outside all the time soft as butter the extra reps you know the extra reps that you can get in whenever you're not in the middle of. Reps for mental toughness win games. Reps for mental toughness win games. Hey, real quick. I'll put that back here. I've seen that.

All right, let's talk about, I don't want to get hit with a bat either. Let's talk about the other Lombardi. Joe Brady down there with down in Carolina. Was this expected, you think? This came out of nowhere for a lot of us? I guess there was no real reaction afterwards from anybody on the team. So I guess this was kind of expected. Yeah, I think the two of them, I think Matt Rule had an idea of offense.

I think Joe Brady had an idea of offense. I'm not sure they were aligned all the time. How did they get hired then? I think it became really hard for that. And I think that they're an involving offense. And when you're an involving offense, you've got to be adaptive. And I think Brady kind of wanted to run what he runs, you know. And that's kind of his expertise.

And I think they needed to evolve their offense. And I think that was probably the biggest issue. And look, you know, Rule, it took guts to do it. I mean, they both have the same agent. Trace Armstrong represents both Matt Rule and Joe Brady. So it's hard. I think for Joe Brady, it's a great lesson learned. And I think for Rule, it's an opportunity for him to put an identity

into his offense that he desperately needs. Boston Connor, what do you got? Yeah, Michael, is Belichick, you know, cerebral enough where he actually wears the Navy mask before running the ball damn near every play? Does he do that on purpose? And also, now that Mac has turned out to be as good as he is, do you see him leaving the game any time before the Mac Jones era is over in New England?

I think they're having so much fun up there right now. I think they like their team. I think their team is just really a bunch of good guys. And Pat, you know this, AJ, you know this. When you have a team that everybody likes one another, it becomes a much better team. There's a camaraderie that's built within that locker room, and you can feel it. I mean, that'll be a hard game when they play Indianapolis this week, next week. But there's a sense of mental and physical toughness I think he's really enjoying it and look Mac Jones is only going to get better much to all the Mac Jones haters that are out there Mac Jones is only going to get better absolutely Ty Michael when you look at the

NFC West like the the Cardinals I know you've talked about like you're finally a believer in them what about the Rams like I mean is there any hope that this team's going to make a deep playoff run well every every time we see the rams they always put that stat up with sean mcveigh's leading at halftime his record is x we never see when sean mcveigh's losing at halftime right all right so i i team where i really believe this and you guys can disagree i think matthew stafford has been such an easy solution for them. They've lost their identity on offense. Now, last week, they got it back with Sonny Michelle running the football, but they got to get more physical. Their offensive line isn't good enough to pass protect 50 plays. Matthew Stafford will get killed. And they protected golf by running play action and running the ball because they knew golf couldn't throw drop back

passes. But now Stafford can throw drop back passes but now Stafford can throw drop back passes they've kind of lured themselves into this trap where they think they can solve all the problems and I don't think he can they've got to get more physically tough and then defensively I mean they've got three great players but I think they have a hard time stopping anybody you don't have to throw the ball to Jalen Ramsey's side you can throw it to the other side Diggs has something a second but Lombardi can you get more physically tough in the middle of a year? I don't think you can. I don't think you can.

I think it's hard. I think you've got to go outside and practice. You've got to stay out of that bubble. Yeah, you heard that, Pat. What do you got, Diggs? It's not about the practice. It's the extra reps. Lawville, there was a report, I believe, yesterday or something like that.

I don't know how true it is, but the conversation that Russ Wilson would potentially waive his no-trade clause for the Giants, the Broncos, and there was a third team. Do you think it's time that they do potentially blow it up in Seattle? Well, I mean, I don't know. Pete Carroll talked about the Jamal Adams trade like it was beneficial for him. Like, seriously, Jamal, you paid him $16 million. You're paying him like a top-line player, and he doesn't impact the game. And you gave up two number ones for him. Like, I don't know how that was a good trade.

Your defense is one of the 32nd and third-down defense. You're paying him all this money. I think they have to rebuild their team, but they have no assets to do it. If you trade away Russ, I mean, if you trade away Russ, how do you, where are you going to get a quarterback from? Who's your, who's your answer? Who are you getting? Are you trading for Jimmy Garoppolo? Are you trading for Jared Dobney? What are you doing? I don't know. I think it's a complicated issue for Seattle. And, and, and I was told last week that I thought maybe Shane Waldron was forced down Russ's throat. But I think Russ really wanted Shane Waldron.

I think that was his guy. So now I heard Russ said, you know, he's willing to come back and play his career. I don't know if either side can get divorced. I think it's one of those where we're better off staying married. How about, which is fascinating to look at it because Pete is getting older, not that he's not going to be able to coach forever because he's in incredible shape. But a blowup would be insane over there. They're saying there's no good quarterbacks coming out of college or whatever.

You know, Kenny Pickett's number one. They banned sliding, by the way, because of him. Way to go, Kenny. And then Kenny. Kenny's time to become a rule. Fake sliding, right? Just fake sliding is banned. Yeah, mock sliding.

Fraud sliding. Whatever the case seems to become a rule that means you did something sweet but are any of these veteran quarterbacks going to actually move you think or is it all going to be a bunch of talk all bark and no fucking bite is this not a dog mentality or what is this because i feel like we're going to get excited for a bunch of veteran quarterbacks to move and it's not going to happen it's it's a hard quarterback market i mean you still got the sean's going to be out there and what happens with tua because two has played better in the last two where they they make the trade is to It's a hard quarterback market. I mean, you've still got the Shons going to be out there. And what happens with Tua?

Because Tua's played better in the last two weeks. Did they make the trade? Has Tua become available? You know, what happens with all these other ones? I mean, you know, you're sitting there. You're in the Andy Dalton business. Do you really want to be in that kind of business? I don't think you do.

So, you know, I mean, the college draft isn't going to be a solution for some of these teams. The Eagles have three number ones, right? And there may not be a quarterback to draft. They may have to continue on. And that's what shocked me. Why Gardner Minshew wasn't viewed as a better player than he was, I have no idea. Because Gardner Minshew, to me, was a little bit less than Baker Mayfield. A little bit less.

Not as good as Baker, but similar to Baker in what he could do. Now, I don't think Gardner can do it for 16 games. I think it wears on his body, but I think Gardner has instincts like you can't believe. Hey, last thing for me, Lombardi. What about the Browns? What about the Browns and Baker Mayfield? What is their season?

What's it going to look like the rest of this year? And then also, what do they do in the offseason? Well, I mean, I don't know how you – I would pick up Baker's option and draft a quarterback. That's what I would do if I was – First round? I would try to find one. Look, you can't replace one until you start looking, right?

You can't replace one until you start looking. So they better start looking. They should have drafted one this year. I mean, a couple teams. And I think Baker's got to look. The Browns only score when they make big plays. They don't move the ball down. Even though they have a great runner in Nick Chubb and he's fabulous,

they've got to make big plays. Look at their score sheets. Look at how many points they scored. 17 against Denver, 10 against Baltimore, 10 against Pittsburgh. They don't score points unless they make big plays like the Charger game or like when they played the Bengals and the Bengals turned it over. They don't score points unless they make big plays like the Charger game or like when they played the Bengals and the Bengals turned it over. They don't score. So for Baltimore, even though their

secondary's beat up this week, Baltimore's got to make them work the ball down the field. And Baker's got to prove he can throw a drop-back pass game. Something I don't think he's ever proven yet. Yeah, well, hey, it'll be fun to watch it play out. And people in Cleveland, I don't know how they feel about Baker and the rest of the team right now.

But, Lombardi, I really appreciate you coming on here. Thank you so much for everything. And thanks for the advice you gave to Pat. Hell yeah. I did nothing for Pat. He's just being nice to me. Pat did it all himself. And you guys did it all.

Congratulations to every one of you. You guys, it's a team effort. That's the beautiful thing about it. You know, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back. That was my whole talk to ExxonMobil. The name on the front is more important than the name on the back. That was my whole talk to ExxonMobil. The name on the front is more important than the name on the back. The brand is more important than anything. You say, do your job. Keep the

valves closed in the oceans. Do your job. Everybody just do your job. Just pay attention to your job. We're going to be great. Awesome. Well, hey, ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi. Thank you.