The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 558 - Aaron Rodgers Tuesday Week 14, Monday Night Football Recap, Lavonte David, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 14, 2021

On today's show, Pat, AJ, and the boys chat about last night's Monday Night Football game and how the Rams again look like they'll be a dangerous team come playoff time, how incredible Aaron Donald is at football, why the Cardinals seem like they'll get things figured out and be just fine, and everything else going on in the NFL as we wrap up week 14 and look ahead to week 15's biggest matchups. Joining the program like he does every Tuesday, fresh off a 4 TD performance agains the Bears, is the reigning NFL MVP, Quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Pat, Aaron, and AJ chat about Sunday's big win over the Bears and some of the key moments, what he thinks his future is looking like at this point in the season, how special the Bears/Packers rivalry is to him, what he thinks of Justin Fields after seeing him a couple of times this year, his dedication to the craft of play action, how his toe/body is feeling, and much more (42:28-1:24:24). Later, Pro Bowler. 3x All-Pro, Super Bowl Champion, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Linebackers, and friend of the program, Lavonte David joins the show to chat about the Bucs this season, if they feel like they still have a lot of prove this year, what it's like having Tom Brady as his Quarterback, if he plans on riding horses with Devin White anytime soon, if he's watched Man in the Arena at all to learn more about Tom Brady, what it's like playing with Vita Vea, and more (1:24:27-1:40:00). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello! It is Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, December 14th. Can't thank you all enough for allowing us to be a show that penetrates your ear holes on a daily basis. Levante David of the Buckstops by AJ Hawk is here, the boys are here, and Aaron Rodgers is wide open for 40-some minutes. Can't thank you enough. You're the best. If you like this show by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Let get to it you know last night just continued to add fuel to the fire that is this nfl season is chaotic what's gonna happen nobody knows the rams without jalen ramsey without higby without others because old uncle kovid showed up or did he, Higby might have been a false positive. How are we this far into this thing with false positives

taking people out of big-time, prime-time, NFC West playoff contention conversation games? But I guess that's what science is there. We're not there yet. Tyler, he's out. Others are out. Nobody thought that the Cardinals, who are one of the hottest teams in the history of football,

the best record in all of the NFL. Kyler Murray handling everything with such grace and class and excited for the next game and ready to go, seems to be motivated, more consistent than ever. Cliff Kingsbury, another year as an experienced NFL head coach, the defense flying around. They're at home on Monday night, and although their record maybe earlier in the year

wasn't fantastic at home, this felt like an evening in which Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler Murray would put their foot on the neck of the NFC West, but instead, Matthew Stafford, McVay, Kopp and the boys came into the desert and demolished them. First play of the game, Aaron Donald drove the guard seven yards into the backfield.

I've never seen a, how you doing? This is how tonight is going to go, happen anywhere near like that on the first play of the game. Last play of the game, he gets a sack as well as a couple others, including Von Miller, made Kyler Murray run around. But I think the tone was set very early that although a couple of their big-time players weren't going to be there, Matthew Stafford was going to show up and show out. Congratulations to the Rams. Congratulations to Aaron Donald, who's an absolute freak show. What do you have, three sacks, a pass deflection, and some other stuff?

Absolute monster, great football player. I don't have any doubt that the Arizona Cardinals will bounce back from this. Almost like a perfect wake-up call in Week 14. A team coming out of a bye week. Maybe they were getting a little bit too comfortable. They forgot what it was to be the team in the NFL. So, end of home game against a division rival who has beat them nine out of the last ten times. McVay, I believe, is at least nine and one against the Cardinals.

Out of the last ten times? McVay, I believe, is at least 9-1 against the Cardinals. Out of the last 10 times? So now that happens, and, you know, I just feel like the entire playoff picture is just one big question mark. And we just got a glimpse of it there as we cut to Ty Schmidt to break down the stat. The toxic table has all of a sudden become the kings of the castle. The toxic table are both sitting atop the mountaintop. And at Ty Schmidt, first in the NFC, obviously Cardinals loss last night makes that happen for the Green Bay Packers.

We'll talk to Aaron Rodgers here in about two hours. After that first week against the Saints in the entire offseason, there's no way you thought you'd be sitting here with an incredibly artistic sign in front of you that says first in the NFC after 14 weeks. I mean, yeah, that first week was tough. It was. We thought, you know, hey, these guys are pretty rusty.

I think, you know, every Packers fan knew they were going to round into form eventually. But we talked about, I mean, the Bucs, are they going to go undefeated this year? So losing a game like that to open, not great. But, I mean, we've talked about it all along. Like the Packers, if they get home field advantage, I mean, they're going to be very, very difficult to beat. Like, you look at it, and maybe, who knows, maybe a team like the Cardinals needs to go play on the road.

But Lambeau, when it's cold, like, they'll be okay going and playing in a dome. They need home field advantage. Got a pretty tough schedule here on out, but if they take care of business, still got everything in front of us. Feeling pretty good. Yeah, Home Field Advantage is locked in right now, so win and you're still in Lambeau all the way until you're in LA, which is where somebody has another

home as well, so be home all the way through if that was to be the case. The interesting thing about the Cardinals, and you mentioned it, maybe they do have to be on the road they're really good away yeah very good away and they won in Chicago in very tough weather and I'm not saying the Chicago Bears are winning any Super Bowls anytime soon no I'm not saying that at all but what I'm saying is with the weather and the way their offense performed in a

couple of the throws that Kyler was able to make in that type of weather has to make them feel you know at least pretty good about the future in the NFC which will sometimes you know at least in recent history I guess for the last 20 years there's a chance Lambeau Wisconsin is a place you're gonna have to travel to absolutely there's a place you're gonna have there's a place that's the middle of a blizzard you're gonna have to go to especially with the number one team in the NFC and then for you Connor in the AFC which is just as chaotic as the NFC, by the way. There's stats coming out now that this far into the season, there's more teams still in contention than there's ever been. This is via ESPN Stats and Info.

Shout out Hembo and them. Shout out Hembo. Hembo and them over there. It's probably a full team that I do not know, but the entire ESPN Stats and Info. The playoff picture is equally chaotic in both conferences. Each conference has three-way tie for the best record, first time through week 14 since 1970. So the 17-game season hasn't even been touched yet, because this is since 1970, 14 weeks in, this is the most that there's ever been. 13 teams in a playoff spot,

or within one game of one, five teams with the same record vying for a wild card spot, which, by the way, remember is now super wild card weekend with extra games. So this is a year where everybody is still in it. Everybody's still in it. Insane. Even the fucking Dolphins who were written off very, very early, they can still make a run at this thing. How about the Falcons, the Panthers,

who fired their offensive coordinator just two weeks ago, got a brand-new quarterback, Cam Newton's back. They could still make the playoffs in the NFC, but in the AFC, there's a team on top of that thing that ain't nobody going to be happy about. No, no way. Especially with how this whole team has come together and how this record has come to be. The first in the Ac seat is owned by

the new england patriots in their fan base that some people say are scumbags this is absurd not me i'm saying some people there's a lot of people say this fair you guys are back on top of the mountain it might have to run through lambo and it might have to run through god damn foxborough i mean this is insane the more things change the more they stay the same nobody has a clue what's going to happen this nfl season records are being broke there's more parody than ever and here we have the 20-year dynasty with a new model okay and a quarterback back on top it's absurd yeah it is absurd i mean i want to say you know i couldn't see this happening but i did i think we all could agree that we knew we would be here.

Bill Belichick, maybe on the back half of his career, all of a sudden. Maybe. Whoa, yeah, maybe. Because all of a sudden, here's Mac Jones, who's going to be the quarterback for New England for the next 15 years. Bill Belichick might be the head coach for the next 15 years. And if he's not, don't worry. We got his bloodline, like Roman Reigns and the Usos coming up the ranks.

Here comes Steve Belichick sticking his tongue out with his beautiful mullet. I mean, things are great in New England. It really is. I feel bad for the NFL. I don't at all, actually, because last year, even this year at 2-4, you guys are never going to be good again. You guys stink. You'll never see the playoffs with this bum Mac Jones.

And here we are, 9-4, best in the league. Mac Jones is going to win offensive rookie of the year. I think that's safe to say. And here we are. 9-4. Best in the league. Mac Jones is going to win Offensive Rookie of the Year. I think that's safe to say. Bill probably will win Coach of the Year. Should win Executive of the Year. And maybe we do see the Chiefs in the AFC Championship. And then who knows what happens. Bill Belichick, pretty successful with him.

I look out for the Colts. Yeah, sure. We got the Colts this week. But their defense is giving Bill Belichick everything he needs to out for the Colts. I look out for the Colts this whole thing. this week, but you know, their defense is giving Bill Belichick everything he needs to know for their game plan. So we're already

looking past them. We're on to Buffalo next week, Pat. Sorry. So let's get to that. All right. And I'm happy you got a chance to do what you just did

because we're all staring down a miserable Connor this season. Oh yeah. When it was two and four and they spent 160 million one year after a seven and nine season.

Sure. And it's the first time in his actual life. He's 26. So, I mean, I guess when he was six, they stunk. Right. No, they won the Super Bowl that year. I was seven. So, when he was five.

Yes, there you go. When he was five, they were terrible. In those days, Connor looks back on it and goes, how did I even survive? How did I even survive when I was five years old and that team sunk? For the rest of his life since then, they have been in contention, in conversation, and most of the time, dominant. So we were getting to witness a fan literally stumble, tumble,

and fall from the top of a mountain as an adult into a microphone for the first time ever. And $160 fucking million day one of the tampering period. Yeah. We ain't doing anything. Bill said, don't you worry, Connor. Connor, don't you worry. We ain't fucking stinking for this.

Thank you, coach. I know you guys speak in microphones. I just got to live. And I can't watch film of this fucking shit that we have. That's how he was talking at the end of last year. Oh, yeah. This team stinks. Listen, we. Not doing team stinks. Listen, we...

Not doing this again. Yeah, we won all in the last four years, five years. We won a bunch. This team, we get it. All right. We'll let you guys have your... It's almost like he was like, have your fun this year. Okay, have your fun this year.

And then we are going to... I'm going to go talk to Kraft, who allegedly called me the biggest asshole of his life, who's brought him billions and billions of dollars in success to him i'm gonna go ask him for a big ass blank check like i'm uh like i'm mackintosh sure like mr mackintosh like i am preston for a blank check i am going right to craft's office and i'm saying i need a blank check and i am writing it to, we're going to get two tight ends. We're going to get help in the secondary. We're going to build up our defense line.

We're going to bring Kyle Van Nooy back, but don't you worry, Kraft. Actually, keep that check for him because the Dolphins are going to pay for him to come play back here. It is absurd that you two are atop, but it's very good for our show that you two at least don't have to be absolutely miserable because we were staring down those days with you, and i don't think any of us wanted that oh no i i am you know when when that happens i become a person that you know choose bark i really i i'm not a real human i'm just someone who lives in this universe okay so my mind's the metaverse you know what i mean the

metaverse by the way coming together i think they're working on the graphics for people just walk around metaverse or whatever oh yeah and when you say choose bark you didn't mean like choose like you were to choose something no no and like i'm gnawing on it yeah i'm that miserable tree bark yes yeah chewing is gnawing and bark is not barking like no no i was not barking no you're talking about chewing tree bark that's right like eating it for every single meal and being absolutely ruthless because when you chew tree bark i don't know if you have or not but when you do the poops are just absolutely the bark poop oh my god you have no idea it's like eating milk bones for every single meal

my dogs do that everyone exactly they start waddling uh-huh all right let's get around the nfl wait pat real quick those guys aren't the only ones in first place in the room. I also am in first place. First pick in the draft is... We got the absolute worst and the two best in the NFL being represented in this room. Tell me what other show has that. I don't think you're going to find one. Because there's none with a lion's fin. Foxy, you see Foxy's sign was even like...

Mickey Mouse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like with pencil. You should see the way he draws penises. You remember he draws... Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we had a full investigation on who left the drawing of the dick on my desk. Jesus. Turns out it was Foxy. That was a good investigation by you guys, to be honest. Yeah, you guys thought I wasn't going to... Hey, who's disrespecting me at my first ever fucking desk? you thought i wasn't going to be able to find that out yeah it's unbelievable and did you know we learned through that that people draw dicks differently

vastly different very different angles depending upon which of you you know they want to draw it from foxy was the only one in the office that drew it from the angle in which he drew it from the undercarriage i believe he drew it yeah yeah he did oh he emphasized the nutsack he was looking up at it yeah it was it was uh okay it was like actually it was we had all the different drawings because some people draw from the side some people draw from the front i guess some people draw from the top and then there was people drawn head-on yeah yeah you will have a 3d rendering wow this is a more talented artist whatever the case foxy very good at what he does terrible handwriting terrible drawing we found that out literally one of the first days in this office so shout out to you foxy the lines stink and this is us finding

a way to talk about the lines for another day shout out to the lines uh let's bounce around again i fell a little bit you talked about this with the New England Patriots-Colts game coming up this weekend. I mean, you're talking massive game. Massive game. Have to go. Have to be here for it, which is terrible because this is becoming a celebration now.

It's a Saturday night football game. It's the first Saturday games in the NFL season, so it's always a celebration. Anytime you get the men's league on both Saturday and Sunday, it's a beautiful day. That means college football, hell of a run. Thank you, college. Thank you, college athletes.

Thank you to all the kickers and punters down at the college level that were amazing. But now that NFL football is on Saturday and Sunday, and it's perfectly distributed, so you can just watch great game all. You get 10, 20 minutes. You watch another great game. Then you go to sleep. Oh, my God, is work tomorrow? Nah, actually, another full fucking day of awesome stuff.

This is amazing. This is magical. And the Colts Patriots on Saturday night is going to be the topic of conversation for everybody. Obviously, Saints-Bucks is Sunday night football. I just learned that from looking at this graphic that Dirty made. Shout out to Dirty, by the way. That's a big-time NFC South game. Taysom Hill is going to try to ground and pound that thing,

keep Tom Brady off of the field. That might be a bit boring. Colts-Patriots is going to be awesome. Absolutely. It's going to be in Indianapolis. Jim Irsay knows how big it is. They're putting on a lot of shit here. Before the game, there's a lot of stuff going down.

During the game, I assume there's a lot of stuff going down during the game i assume there's a lot of stuff going on this is a prime time matchup that i think you know it's week 15 nfl football december yeah colts patriots again this game matters you look at this in the second week third week of this game and what it was going forward the colts were two and four one and five i forget what it was you guys were the Colts were 2-4, 1-5, I forget what it was. You guys were the same exact thing. You project this Week 15 matchup between the Patriots and Colts. At that time, I don't think anybody was thinking anything of this. Now, all of a sudden, hey, here's the two hottest teams in the AFC.

Now, the Chiefs flipped the switch, obviously, last week. Will they be able to continue to do that? And they said that they didn't see the raiders on the logo by the way and by the way that is always the answer that aaron gives whenever somebody does the belt he's like i did not see that is what he always says the chiefs here said we did not see that or whatever i i'm sure they heard about it whatever the case it backfired for the raiders i love that they did it anytime somebody talks shit I enjoyed it immensely but this time Aaron by the way saw it

it was right in his face so I'll be excited to ask him about it we have to but let's get back to this the Colts Patriots game though is going to be massive that is going to be an electrifying environment Frank Wright, Chris Ballard know exactly what type of game this is

in Jim Irsay's eyes we're watching it man in the arena there's a lot of scars on the heart from the Patriots and the Colts matchup and although Peyton's gone and Tom Brady's gone and there's new pieces Jim Irsay Bill Belichick Robert Kraft have been here through this entire thing and Chris Ballard if you do recall his first hire for a head coach when he got a head coaching job was josh mcdaniels and josh mcdaniels turned the plane around and said fuck off yeah they had breakfast set up lunch set up a press conference set up a meeting with all of them a jim ursae meeting with mcdaniels already set up he was the head coach turns playing around and says fuck off so chris ballard actually says

in that quote he says rivalry back on he actually said and everybody in new england was like oh shut the fuck up chris okay because this rivalry isn't really a rivalry as of late the patriots have won outright i was a part of the last win the colts had against the patriots there uh melvin bullock makes a big time play at home fourth and two i believe is what it was and then pain goes and then i was a part of a lot of the new regime's losses to the Patriots where that play there was some buzz saws happening my name is projected across the bottom of the worst play that happened in one of those games but this one's going to be a dogfight this this Colts team I think is ready for the moment and I think this Patriots team although Mac Jones

is a rookie he doesn't act like that at all I think they're ready for the moment they all know that this is a playoff game this is a big deal with a deep history and the franchises and I think this is fucking amazing amazing that this is coming up this week yeah I mean you're just talking about there is getting me juiced up I mean this is the playoff you know game for both of these teams if the Pats win massive chance we can kind of close it out you know Buffalo next week will be tough, but this one in particular, you beat the Colts, you almost end their season because you can kind of send them down to outside the wildcard.

They're not doing anything. Both teams off the bye, too. I think overall this season, teams off the bye haven't been very good. They started slugging. I think that was Cardinals last night. Yeah. Definitely the guard. Definitely the guard. Yeah. Definitely the guard.

He said, go. I am skating backwards. Holy shit. And then Kyler, oh, my God. You're not supposed to be here, dude. And he falls. Two seconds into the game. Literally, this is going to be all fucking night.

And it was, dude. He's so good at football. You have to triple team him. Yeah. Because every time they're on prime time, all the commentators talk about it. Hey, this might be the best football player of all time. And then the stats don't necessarily show it, but they'll show highlights. They're like, look at this guy getting triple teamed right now,

which is allowing others to do it. It's kind of boring for Aaron Donald, I think, because of how much he eats up, although it's helping everybody else. Last night, for whatever reason, it seemed like Cardinals were like, we got a guy. Our guy. We got a guy that can eat. I don't think so. I don't think anybody's got a guy. I just think that's kind of nationally known. But let's get back to Colts Pets. Colts got a team that can run, can travel, could go to Foxborough. This is very much a who's hot, who's not situation. And because they're both coming out of the bye week, it might be ugly early.

Maybe look for first half under. Oh, okay. Especially if they're both going to be running the ball a lot. See ball, get ball. Not as hard to come out of the gates slow on the defensive side as it is on the offensive side because there's a lot of timing. Although the bye week isn't that long and maybe you can't lose it, especially if you're hot, maybe you do stumble a little bit early

in the timing rhythm standpoint. Maybe your offensive lineman forgets that actual football is about to happen. You never know what's going to take place. That feels like a good bet going into Saturday night. Especially with it feels as though both teams are going to try and make both quarterbacks win the game because obviously Bill is going to try and take away Jonathan Taylor. It seems like the Colts are going to try and make both quarterbacks win the game because obviously Bill is going to try and take away Jonathan Taylor. It seems like the Colts are going to try and make Mac throw it

after he threw it three times two weeks ago. So, I mean, I can't wait. I'm going to be there. It's going to be the first time I see him. Let's just talk about what you just said. It's the first time seeing Mac? Oh, yeah, in person. Are you going to wear those No Bulls?

Are you kidding me? I haven't taken them. I sleep in the No Bulls, Pat. I haven't taken these off since September 10th. Yeah. It's amazing how much those have held up, by the way. Oh, yeah. They're unbelievable.

They're no bull. Hey, no bull. I was calling those knockoff Toms. Yeah. I was calling those like, hey, those are the slightly more athletic version of Tom's shoes because I had a hell of a Tom's run. Tom's shoes, they had some with fur on the inside of them there for a bit. I used to wear those everywhere, and they were giving back.

I mean, it was a great thing. And then a lot of other companies, I think, just took their very plain minimalist design and kind of made it their own. That's what I thought No Bulls were when I first looked at them, but now I'm realizing No Bull, these things are sturdy and durable. They're No Bull. And, I mean, I have gained so much weight since the start of the football season, and these things are still going strong.

They haven't even torn even a little bit. That's no bull? That's no bull. You haven't Zioned him. I haven't Zioned him. And when he says that, he's talking about Duke. He's talking about Duke. Yeah, yeah.

That was his first ever injury. That was on the same foot that's still hurt now. Maybe we should be talking about that as opposed to the body thing. Let's be honest. He doesn't do them any favors with those dirty, white, trashy socks he wears with them either. Well, that's because he hasn't taken them. If he hasn't taken his shoes off, he hasn't taken his socks off. And you're right.

The white trash socks do appear that they're actually helping him tell the story that he hasn't taken no bull shoes off. His socks are like, that's real. Look at these fucking things. They're kind of just like sloppy, falling things. They're kind of just sloppy, falling down. They're disgusting. I mean, they're kill socks. What do you want from me?

Sorry, I don't have any socks. That's the first thing I'm going to buy with my money. When I get it, I'm going to buy 10,000 pairs of socks. No, you put $250,000 on the Steelers on Thursday.

Yeah, I know. I mean the next one. Okay, let's go back to what you're talking about with the next $250,000. Yeah, because that one's already gone. All right, so we'll mean the next one. Okay, let's go back to what you're talking about with the next $250,000. Yeah, because that one's already gone. All right, so we'll get the next one because the first bonus

went to sunglasses. We're looking at those now. They're already out. The second one went to the steel. You lost it on Thursday night. As fast as it was in, it was out. Wait till you guys see the financial advisor

I'm bringing in to speak to you guys. I need him. I'm on the horn with every single one that's on Instagram telling everybody how to use their money even though they've never made a fucking dollar in their life. I'm on the horn with all of them to see which one is the right one to come talk to

you guys. You guys would be a little bit more adult like with your funds that you have been earned and given here as of late. Sure. I mean, I will learn from this. I won't do this again, but you're saying Gary Vee's coming in here and he's going to tell us how to use it. Gary Vee has made a bazillion dollars. I'm not talking about Gary.

He's been a five time, five, five time, five time, five time bestseller. So it's not, if we get Gary Vee in here, we would yesterday.

Okay. Yeah. Fair to talk to you guys. He's busy, but there's a lot of financial gurus on the internet. I would imagine you have no money. I'd imagine lately you've probably heard from every one of them and i've by the way i've looked into them like the people that

i got time i mean i flew to la that's a 14 hour flight true i mean that thing 16 with headwinds well that's what i'm saying we had good job eating us and we were it took forever i was there was a lot of things being said you know in the financial the financial market. And there's like, you know, financial bloggers and stuff like that and all this. People talking about money. Well, they never made money. What are they even, why are you even talking? You know, I guess because you come from money? Is that something that it allows them to speak?

There's a lot of people out there, Fugues, I think, telling people what they should do with their money. Oh, yeah. And I would like to have a conversation with every single one of them and say, how do you feel about me buying a wrestling ring about 3 a.m. whenever I find out that I can do that? How much does it cost? Probably like $6,500 or something like that. It's a bad decision.

You should put that $6,500. Oh, yeah? What happens if six years later they'll have a fucking match in a pay-per-view where I need to at least look above average and maybe that'll be a bigger part of the business. Would that be a good idea? Well, we can figure out how to rent one later. All right, well, fuck off.

I'm just going to buy one. Didn't see that one coming. Digi-smart guy. Didn't see that one coming. Digi-smart guy. Yeah, Digi-pal. Huh? Did you see that coming? No. I did. 3 a.m. A couple cocktails. I could buy a drink. Is that a big... That couldn't be a real one. That's a.m. What? What? A couple cocktails. What? I could buy a drink. What? Is that a big, that couldn't be a real one. What?

That's a real one. What? All right, I'm going to buy it. What? Then I'll never hear back from the company, never get a confirmation. No. And then two, three months later, an 18-wheeler will show up in the driveway and say, where do you want us to put this thing? And I say, what is it?

And they say, it's a professional wrestling ring. I say, holy shit. Put it in the barn. Yeah. I say, holy shit. Put it in the barn. Go ahead and park that thing in the barn. Then it takes us 10 hours to put it together. I was going to say, I can't imagine. Those guys didn't help assemble it. No.

They got out of there as quick as possible. Oh, yeah. Oh, thanks. Back that big thing out. See you later. So putting that thing together took forever. I mean, absolutely. It hurt so bad. It would be like a little party thing people come over for a cookout or whatever

and be like oh let me see the ring they get in there and i get oh i'm gonna give people's elbow boom oh my god roll their dead carcasses out of the ring not as fun as it has looked but it was a worthy investment it was a worthy investment. It was a worthy investment. Not to mention OCW. I mean, come on. Bingo. Yeah.

Bingo. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Needed it. Anyways. Mama's dinner table match. There's enough of that whole thing. I mean.

Come on. Are you kidding me? That's all time. Test to pay. That might be the best thing we have ever done. Yeah, by far. By far. It's not even close.

We put more time and effort into office championship wrestling than anything else. And after we shot every episode in one night, Ty and I's ears were blown out ringing from people screaming. Could not speak because we couldn't hear each other, so we were just screaming at each other. Had fans in the office. Man, I'd never been more proud of it. We saw those other three episodes, too. Wow, we're going to have to work on that. Those are in development.

When we were sitting back here editing that thing afterwards. That's still the hardest I've ever laughed. Dying laughing. We were so pumped. We got something here. Anyway, so let's get back to it. Has Vince seen that yet? Well, I mean, maybe we show it to him.

We should sit down and show him an episode. Hey, by the way, shout out to Ring of Honor. Hell of a run. Alright, let's talk about football. Going back to what Connor was alluding to there a couple different times because he was trying to point out that Bobby Okereke formerly known Okereke

who by the way I was set up for failure I was set up for failure I'd like to let everybody know that and I don't know if the decision was made by Bobby and his family for the pronunciation of his last name into Okereke or Okereka I don't remember the exact and I don't know the phonetic spelling so I apologize for that for the pronunciation of his last name into Okarike or Okarika. I don't remember the exact, and I don't know the phonetic spelling,

so I apologize for that. But on draft night when I announced this stud out of Stanford, they literally had it written out on there, Okarike. And that's why I echoed it at the end was for the person backstage to try to walk me through it like four times as if i didn't have ears or a brain i was like i got it i got it so i actually did it on there now i believe he has changed his name back to its uh original pronunciation with his nigerian heritage so i believe it's okarike i wish i would have been able. Bobby O.K. Okay.

Okay. Perfect. O.K. Yeah. All right. Anyways, I wish I would have been given that on the draft night because anytime his name is pronounced O.K. Or O.K.

I get 7,000 tweets. And I would like to let Bobby know I apologize for that. I do apologize. He has to see it. I'm a big fan of how he plays football. What Connor has been alluding to is in an interview, he basically came out and said, you know, this is via Stephen Holder, formerly of IndyStar, now at The Athletic.

No secret on the Colts' plan for the Patriots on Saturday night. Linebacker Bobby Okereke, we're really going to try to make the game one-dimensional and see what Mac Jones can do, okay? So is that giving away strategy? Is that giving away plan? Or is the Stanford guy here playing next-level chess with Bill Belichick? Is Bobby O'Kerry K saying, hey, listen, Ibra Flux, defense coordinator, Frank Reich, how about this?

What if I come out and say this is what we're going to do? They're going to think, because Bill has already alluded to watching hard knocks and listening to clips and having all that. And why wouldn't you, by the way, if you can gain an advantage? And that is what Bill Belichick has done his entire career is gain an advantage however he can. What if O'Kerry K is playing close to Sillian here?

What if O'Kerry K? So, yeah, we're going to see what Mac Jones is going to do. And then all of a sudden, nah, nah, that ain't what we're doing actually. We're going to drop eight into coverage. We're going to have three up front. Let's see how the run game goes. What if Bobby Okereke is playing next-level chess against the chess master that is Bill Belichick?

Or, what if Okereke immediately got called in and said, hey, can't be fucking safe. Why not? I mean, you're going to kill us, Bobby, but either way, Belichick's going to tell Damian Harris, they're going to think it's going to be that easy to stop you. They're not even thinking about it.

They'll say, hey, we'll put seven guys up there. Damian Harris won't give us any trouble. Get him going. And then McDaniels will be in Mac Jones' ear the entire week. They don't think that you can throw the football. They're going to have eight guys in the box to stop Harris, and they don't think you can beat them. So, I mean, it doesn't really matter what kind of chess Bobby's playing because he's going against a grandmaster, the greatest chess player of all time, Bill goddamn Belichick.

Well, I don't know if Queen's Gambit would... Yeah, Beth Harmon. Beth Harmon. Or the little cowboy in the basement in New York. Do they play with the Colts? I don't think they do. Beth Harmon ain't on the Colts. Hey, no stone left unturned.

We'd probably bring in fucking Beth Harmon and that little basement cowboy guy. Yeah, right. Don't you even worry about that. Bobby Fischer. Is that his name? No, but Bobby Fischer was a dynamite chess player. Bobby Fischer was? Yeah.

Is he like the two-handed wonder from down under of the chess game? Did he change that whole thing? Who do you think you are? I fucking am? Is that who Bobby Fischer is? Yeah, pretty much. Pete Weber? Yeah.

He's the Pete Weber of chess? Yes, essentially. Wow. Josh McDaniels Weber of chess? Yes, essentially. Wow. Josh McDaniels can also tell Mac Jones, hey, everybody said that you don't even have to be on the field because you threw the ball three times and we still beat divisional opponent Buffalo Bills. There's a lot of things to fire up Mac Jones and to do all that.

Obviously, I don't think Bobby's saying this is a big deal at all, but in the world of that's bulletin board material, that feels like something that could potentially be viewed in a bulletin board style. But I don't think this Colts defense gives a damn. No. I honestly don't think they care. They fly around.

I think they work their dicks off too. I think the Colts defense is a big time like, hey, let's film, work. I think that culture that Ibra fluce is built in darius leonard and deforest buckner and grover who grover's wings in the sink i guess are top notch can't wait to have that but that squad i guess is a very hard working squad so they probably just say bobby can't be saying stuff like that but also like we gotta play the patriots so we can't spend any time worrying about what the fuck you just said about matt jones yeah they got guys at every level like buckner on the D-line.

Obviously, Darius Leonard's one of the best in the game. And then Kenny Moore, too. At all phases of their defense, they have dudes. But for men in the arena, a Philadelphia throwaway newspaper just put a potential parade route in their paper, and Belichick used that. I know bulletin board material is kind of like a hoo-gay sometimes. and Belichick used that. I know bulletin board material is kind of like a movie sometimes.

I love that Bill Belichick is like an old school bulletin board guy. Yes. And in that man in the arena, look at how easy they think it's going to be. Yeah. I would have never thought that Belichick would be that petty. No. Who cares? Because remember, the big thing is can't read the press clip.

Yeah. Nor the noise. Keep the noise out. That's like old school football. Can't listen to anything. And belichick years and years ago why everybody was saying don't read the press clippings bill's like read this one yeah use anything to fire him up read this one yeah but there's so many different ways to like legacies people's legacy is a way to motivate people there is you know comparing them to patriots of the past that you could do that to actually utilize. That's, that's awesome. That's like out of a movie. And the fact that Bill Belichick does that, I love, I wish I could have gone through a season of Bill Belichick team meetings just because I feel like my football IQ would grow even more. Not that Chuck Pagano's

team meetings weren't amazing. Chuck was a big time. And you hear Tomlin talk about it, like nameless, faceless, whoever it is. I feel like Bill Belichick's not like that. No. He's like, no, actually, this motherfucker here actually had some things to say about this. And whenever he came into our combine meeting, he actually told me to fuck off.

So we got an extra special thing for this guy. This guy over here. Yeah, like it feels like that's how Belichick is. And I think that's probably why all the players that ever played for him are like, hey, he's one of our guys because he's just as competitive as we are about everything. Well, and hearing what Cassius Marsh said, he'll actually go through the entire guy's family history

and be like, well, actually going back to his great-grandfather, they are Giants fans. They used to hate the Patriots and basically go through the GM, the head coach, and the entire kind of building as a whole. I think Lombardi told us. Lombardi told us that Bill Belichick, although those Wednesday team meetings are to go through

like the points of emphasis, the keys to victory, what we're thinking about doing, and you heard Eckler talk about it and Herbert talk about it. It's the first time the Chargers have explained to everybody every different department's mission for the week. So then there's some accountability like, hey, we know why the defense is trying to take away this guy. So if they do that, we can do that.

But him not only doing like the keys to victory on why the offense is going to do what they're going to do, defense and special teams, I think there's a lot of coaches that do that. But him saying the way this team is constructed, this general manager had this happen, right? This quarterback was his quarterback. He got hurt on a blind side. This general manager said, I am running

everything through the offensive line. So this team is supposed to be constructed in a manner that the offensive line is supposed to do. That shit is just so much. That's so much information to be given. But I guess that's why you have to be a certain type of player to go up there. So you can kind of digest it all each week and then your test is the

game. And then you go into the next week. It's like, okay, history lesson on this fucking general manager, this head coach, this play caller. Now, whenever we get into a situation, we have to dial back into that. Okay. What does this guy like to do in this situation? Boom. It feels like the amount of information that the Patriots organization gives out is just so much would take a special type of player to be up there that would have been really cool to kind of experience and watch and I feel like I'd be much better at this job if I would have done that but here I am just watching man the arena like let me get a glimpse yeah let me hear what this dude's saying in there well and that's what's so crazy about all the Mac Jones stuff is we like in the pre-draft process they made him out to basically be that guy and everyone

was saying like hey you know like it's gonna happen like we saw it happening in front of our eyes like hey he's gonna fall to the patriots and belichick and it's just gonna be like a perfect marriage and then of course it happens and here we are and they're on top of the afc again it's unbelievable yeah but the colts hey this city's city's going to be buzzing. That's right. I think there's a full concert going on. Oh, yeah. Wow, is Ursae... Oh! Is Ursae... He might be playing down the circle.

Hey, Nick put that video out into the universe for the Superboost. I feel it! I feel it in my bones! That video's 2-0. Gotta save for special moments. Hey, by the way, Superboost, don't look now. It is on fire. Look for Thursday night maybe.

Maybe we continue that thing. But maybe Ursa is performing there. I mean, you get that kind of extra juju going towards the team. But don't you think this is like Carson Wentz has a real opportunity? Because obviously we know how much Jonathan Taylor means and what he's going to have to do. But you look at the Bucs game where that like, that could have been like another, like, taking a step up the ladder for this Colts team because they are still young.

Like, this is a big game for Carson Wentz to kind of prove that, like, hey, I should be the guy here. Like, you beat this Patriots team who's this hot and kind of cement them going forward in the playoff race. Like, this is a big game for him. Hey, I don't want to be the one that asked the question, but I'm going to ask the question. question he came in here all right he's big big son of a big yeah huge i mean and he's a lumbering guy when he walks in here okay he's big son of did not get introduced

last at the game we went to against the jets when the offense got introduced did not get introduced last jonathan taylor did He is not the conversation. Whenever you talk about the Colts offense, Jonathan Taylor is. I bet Carson likes that, right? Yeah, I think so. You know what I mean? Takes a lot of pressure away. I think he doesn't have to deal with all the attention and drama

that surrounded him in Philadelphia. Now there's really nothing. Aside from hard knocks, I guess, filming every single day and maybe catching everything he says at every single moment because there might be a moment where he's a little bit upset about something and you know we kind of went after the Colts for deciding to throw the ball with Carson even though he did have a hot hand and was throwing the ball well we're like run the damn ball so I assume there's moments in Carson's mind where he's like I could do this though like I and he probably has some sort of ego that has gotten him to this point

that you have to have, even though he's a very nice guy. So I bet there are moments where Carson's not exactly thrilled that the running back is the guy. But I bet, ultimately, in the end, Carson is very pumped to be an Indianapolis Colt with the way this is going. Yeah, I think he loves it. I mean, his number is number two. He comes out second to last.

He picked maybe not even second best company in Bobcat. I mean, De number is number two. He comes out second to last. He picked maybe not even second best company in Bobcat. I mean, Deere's number one. Hey, John Deere. Hey, John Deere, friend of the program. Yeah, we always knew you were a Deere guy. I mean, you could never really. Who, me? Yeah, because of Carson.

You know, he's Bobcat guy, so you really couldn't. But us John Deere guys knew you were a John Deere guy. So you're saying Bobcat's power. Yeah, big time. Okay. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, it might be all sports, to be honest.

Whoa. Bobcat's all sports? Yeah, Caterpillar might be powering. No way. Carson's rolling around on that Bobcat. You're telling me Carson went big. We just said it. Yeah.

Yeah. Big. And that thing's got rabbit. That thing is whoa. Whenever he's doing a zero turn, he's going out there. He's really keeping turtle. Bro, he's tilling the field, dude, out there with the bobcat. You're telling me that thing's all sport, bro.

Bobcat. It might be. I mean, I don't want to say it, but I tell you what, once you get on that fucking deer, it's like, wow, this is a blue glacier power raid. You can tell it. I mean, the way that thing hums, you know. You've always known. You've known. Well, John Deere did follow me on Twitter. I don't know if it's John or the Deere family,

but somebody in the department did follow us. I think John did. Either way. Let's get to a break. John's dead? No. No, he can't be. No.

He was born in the 1800s. Oh, no. He's turning that music down. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me, dude? You did not die in vain sir let's have a moment of silence for john dear dude what year did he pass uh 1886. yeah he's an old son of a yeah but no he was born 1804 yeah hey hell of was. Hey, hell of a run. 84. Hell of a run, John Deere.

Good job, John. Legends never die. Hey, we appreciate your brain. The Steve Jobs of farming. That's right. No, he did the work himself. All right. I was talking about him and Wozniak combined.

He is the ultimate. Yeah. All right, let's get to a break. Shout out to John Deere, dude. Shout out. Nothing runs like a deer. Nope. Miss you.

Nothing runs like a deer. Nope. Miss you. Nothing runs like a deer. It ain't a pass light. There he is. She thinks my tractor's sick. Yeah. You think that guy ever thought that his piece of incredible machinery was going to be described as sexy? I don't know.

His bones are probably turning into dust right now because of that. He wouldn't like that, but what are you going to be described as sexy? No, his bones are probably turning into dust right now because of that. He wouldn't like that. You don't think he would think that people think that his machinery is so beautifully crafted that people are singing songs about that sexiness? You don't think Mr. John Deere right there would have appreciated that? No, he's all about grit.

You know, grit and determination. He's a big... Takes the tractor another round. Another round. Another round. That's his style. Bingo. Hey, let's not talk about how it looks, all right?

Let's go out and do the fucking work. Let's take a couple trips. How's the function of it? Yeah, it makes his corn pop up in rows. Bingo. Yeah, but he... Hey, come on. Well, and the thing about it is...

Rain makes corn. Corn makes whiskey. whiskey whiskey makes my baby i wonder if john deere is mentioned there at all because that's all friskiness and john deere is part of the corn making process after the rain comes down yeah you should be anyway shout out to john de dude. Thanks for everything you did for music and for farms. Now that the world's opening back up, so many new thrills are on the horizon. Okay. And whether you've been in a relationship for years or just getting started,

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Joining us now is a man who went 29 of 37 for 341 and four tuds on Sunday night. Is that good? You tell me. He was called into question about his shit talk during a game, whether or not it was bulletin board material, and said, I don't take back anything I say. Look at the stats.

Matt Nagy at halftime was asked by the on-field reporter, hey, what are you guys going to do in the second half? He said, I'm having so much fun. Aaron Rodgers heard that and said, you mocked the belt in the first quarter. This guy's having so much fun. Flipped the switch in the second half. Absolute domination of the Chicago Bears.

Ladies and gentlemen, quarterback and reigning MVP of the NFL for the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah! Pick him up and pull him down. Wow. That was awesome, dude. That is awesome. That's amazing. Did you send me this shirt?

I don't think so, but I but i said it was in my locker this morning so i said i'm wearing this you look good epitome of yinzer will be happy about that at e yinzer will love it congrats to you and the boys man i haven't talked to you since the news broke couldn't be more happy for you guys couldn't happen to better people, harder workers in the business. I watched that and I was texting with you last week, but I watched that video that you put together. That gets you a little misty watching that, man.

I know you did as well. I know you talking about your folks and all the people that helped you. That was really special, man. Good for you. Good for the boys. Good to see you guys be well taken care of for at least the next three years. Well, I think that type of money,

obviously you're going to take care of us for a long time, but thank you, Aaron, honestly. Thank you, Aaron. Thank you for the love and the kind words last week via text, and the conversation was very nice, and we can't thank you enough for your time and your appearances on here in different shirts sporadically throughout the season. You're the fucking man and we are eternally grateful for

you, pal. Pick them up and put them down. Let's continue to do that every single Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. Let's dive right into it. Chicago Bears, is there just teams and schemes and places that you play better against, you think, or why do you always seem to have a good game against the Chicago Bears? Well, I've had a good run against a few teams. You know, I don't think it's been just one specific team. But I don't know. I mean, they were missing, obviously, Mack and Akeem was out. But it was one of those strange, strange games where we needed to perform on

offense. We started really, really slow in the first quarter. And then a bunch of crazy stuff happened. You know, we hit a touchdown on a fourth and two. And then have a pick six. And I'm like, okay, now we settle in. Now we're up 14-10. This thing's going to go our way.

And then, you know, they hit a little touchdown. And we punt. And, you know, Grant takes it back. 96, John! What is he doing? What is he doing? He's the only guy I've ever seen take a ball out of the end zone on a punt. I mean, and he should, too.

He's incredible. I mean, he is an incredible returner. But then we put together some really important drives, two-minute drive to score out of the second half, you know, Two-minute drive to score. Out of the second half, six-minute drive to score. Then the fourth quarter, that drive that took up seven or eight minutes, it put the game away. Offensively, we just got into a groove.

Dennis Kelly stepped in for Billy Turner and did a really nice job. Obviously, we got the ball to Devontae. Big Dog had a bunch of yards. Showed up. Alan Lazard had a really nice game. Both our backs contributed a lot as well. You mentioned scoring on fourth and two. When you were running that play on third down, did you know this is four-down territory?

No, I didn't. I mean, I feel good about the third-down call. Probably just didn't get to throw in the air quick enough. But I looked over sidelines, and it didn't seem like there was any question on Matt's mind whether or not we should go for it. He called a really nice play. And luckily,

you know, I was able to put the ball in a good spot. Roquan kind of... And the linebacker playing so tight in the line of scrimmage it was kind of an RPO. And was able to sneak that in there. But, you know, just in timemage, it was kind of an RPO and was able to sneak that in there, but just in time. What do you mean kind of an RPO? Well, it was a complex RPO.

It wasn't just – a lot of RPOs you're reading one specific guy. There's like one guy who's not blocked. There could be a defensive end. There could be an inside linebacker. But that kind of determines whether or not you throw the ball. This was not. This was a run with a run solution attached to it. So not exactly an RPO traditionally where you're kind of reading a technique

or a linebacker or a specific defender. Did you give us a bullshit answer there for competitive advantage purposes? No, I didn't. That was a real answer. That was a great answer then, man. That was really good. I feel like I really learned some stuff there. Let's talk about a couple situations.

I'm not a player. That country is popular. Not popular. They're held belief by certain individuals. I thought you were misleading us there for a second there. Pretty straight shooter. Chris Collinsworth said that. Chris Collinsworth. Yeah. Chris Collinsworth.

Yeah, Chris Collinsworth. Collinsworth got buried for saying that. But whatever the case, there's always going to be people that don't like you. Let's talk about a couple of things. Yeah, you talked about knowing. You do an immunization protocol, then you champion yourself as immunized. I'm not sure what you guys would call it. But multiple week, month immunization protocol.

And then you, at the end of that, say that I'm immunized. I'm not sure what people would call it. Well, you're jumping right back in the fire. Whatever the case, you do whatever you got to do. That's your world. That's not mine. And I appreciate you doing whatever you're doing. Let's talk, though, about a later fourth down decision because you talk about this one fourth and two later there was

a time where you and the floor were obviously speaking on the sideline and I put out a tweet to remind myself was the floor actually saying like hey hey listen do you want to kick this or you want to go for this because there was a time in the playoffs where I got absolutely murdered for making this decision I think you said let's kick. You send Mason out there to go up 11 or maybe I think it was good to go up 11 there. Has that been the type of conversation that has always happened between you and LeFleur? Or was it just spotlighted on Sunday night football in that situation? Well, we were kind of running low on the play clock the previous play. So we kind of got the line of scrimmage and we're going to call a timeout. And just wanted to make sure that we made the right decision there. You know, it had been a back-and-forth game.

There had been some wild plays that had happened. They'd obviously been effective on offense and teams. But I thought it was important for us to go up two scores in that situation, so I think we made the right decision. Hey, what did you think of seeing Justin Fields now play for a second time? I know he had a great response to pick six. He comes down, throws a laser that goes for a touchdown, I believe, on the next drive. What did you think now you've seen him play twice?

I think he's a really talented kid. I think he's got really talented kid. I think he's, you know, he can obviously, he's got a good arm on him. He can really move around and extend the plays and make plays outside the pocket. You know, the most important thing for young players is to continue to work on the little things and the little details. You know, there's always, you know, even as an older player, every year you go back and you kind of watch the previous year's film

and try and work on one specific thing during the, you know during training camp and then the off season it's you know he's i think he's asking too much to focus on i gotta change you know six different things and improve you know take one or two things you really want to work on the off season could be ball handling could be uh footwork in the pocket just little things to improve on and if you start stacking you know years and years of really trying to work on one or maybe even two specific things you can really uh become uh the star and then he has you know a lot of star qualities with his presence and and his uh visibility are you in a kitchen right now is there it feels like they're running french toast and some potential uh you know little b's and g's bowing there in the back.

Is that what's going on over there? Yeah, there's some ambient noises going on here. It's beautiful. Ed Berry's over here. Money team! He can't, you know, can't keep his, you know, he's munching on some Cap'n Crunch. Food's touching the side of the bowl every two seconds.

Hey, he's getting every fucking last one. Is it the berries? Is he trying to get the the side of the bowl every two seconds. He's getting every fucking last one. Is it the berries? Is he trying to get the berries out of the bottom there? Food's all berries? Yeah, it might be that. I don't know. All right, it's awesome.

It's amazing. I remember the last time after the game, you talked to Justin Fields, and I don't remember if it was on the field or off the field, but you told him, like, hey, cherish this rivalry. Like, this rivalry's a real thing, and I think you legitimately, whenever you were telling us about it, you wanted him to treat it, you know, like, hey, this deserves a little bit more respect than every other game.

These are two franchises that have been battling for a long, long time. So whenever you get flipped off by the Bears fans and then you let them know that I am the landlord of your entire football existence, like that's good for the rivalry. I think, how about when old buddy does the belt right in your face? I mean like right in your, because normally when we ask you about the belt, it's happened four other times this season. The teams have gone on to lose. Obviously Chandler Jones did it. The cards were up seven. Oh, they ended up losing 24, 21. Jamal Adams did it when you guys were just up 3-0. Would go on to go 17-0.

Robert Quinn, obviously, scoreless, goes on to win 45-30. He did it again previously in the year via Matt Schneidman. You saw that one. Was that a shot to your heart? And were you like, you know what? I'm going to play football better because this guy just did this in my face, dude? I really thought this was going to go one or two ways that that was not a good decision or the the narrative would be you know somebody finally did the belt and

backed it up and they you know they got after us it's it's been pretty one-sided though i think for the most part you know i'm glad people aren't getting hurt doing it anymore, but it's been pretty one-sided with that. But I like Robert. I enjoy competing against him. He's had a great season. He really has. He's had a phenomenal season. Like he's got 13 1⁄2 sacks or something like that.

I mean, he's had a Pro Bowl caliber season, and I enjoy competing against him. I love that he did it right in your face. Honestly, I do. I enjoy it. Like that is. It's a compliment. It's an your face. Honestly, I do. I enjoy it. Like, that is... It's a compliment. It's an ultimate compliment to you, I feel like.

It is. There's not many guys that have their own celebration that people just love to throw back in your face, right? Well, I think, I mean, you're Aaron fucking Rogers, dude. And that discount double check started coming out. And then the belt got bigger. The biggest one you've ever done was in Chicago for the entire midway. I think that was the largest championship belt ever.

But let's talk about a couple of those plays because that throwback to Aaron Jones, that was filthy. Absolutely filthy. Now I'm hearing via reading the Internet that that was a callback to 2005 when old Farvey threw one to Amon in a preseason game or whatever. And this is just now another thing added to the long list of your recall is ridiculous. When are you thinking of this, that all in 2005 when Farvey did this against the Buffalo Bills in a preseason game to Amon, and they score a 12-yard touchdown when you get through all your reads and you throw it back when you're rolling out to the right?

Is that live in the play? Is that while you're practicing the play? Is that as you're calling the play? When do you think about all this shit? You just kind of lock that one away. I mean, I remember watching that play going, man, how would you even begin to think about getting back to that guy? That'd be fun to be in that mental space one day. And every now and then, I think you just remind yourself when you go back and watch them film certain games,

if the situation comes up where it's a design rollout, you get pulled up or you pull up for some reason, you never know what could be going on on the backside or when you can get back to that guy. And so it's always kind of in the back of your mind. This play was more of a designed potentially pull up and throw to Big Dog. pull up and throw to big dog. And, you know, when I pulled up the corner from the backside, I believe it was Johnson, um, went to double, uh, to double big dog. And I just happened to see Jonesy sneaking out and for whatever reason,

you know, he wasn't supposed to turn it up. He just kind of turned it up. And right as I got to about the throwing spot, I saw, I believe it was 98, kind of hanging. And so I just put a little more loft on it just to hopefully get over his head. And Aaron Jones makes the difficult catches look very easy. And obviously he did the rest. But that was a fun play just because, you know, coaches spend all this time, you know, creating these plays and drawing these things up. And then we go to practice.

I remember watching Peyton talk about this on one of his detail breakdowns of a game. He was laughing how this is just how they drew it up in practice. Every single time they're scheming this up for the look team to have this guy be wide open and begin the game and it doesn't happen anywhere near how he schemed it up all week. And that was the case in this situation. So the joke is always you come back, and I saw Matty on the sidelines before, and I was like, hey, just how you draw it up, right? Classic.

Hey, what was going through your head when you saw the ref actually call an offensive PI on Devontae? Did you have any words with him? No, I didn't. I was surprised the ball down the left sideline, that that wasn't a P.I. on Johnson. But I don't think – Devontae didn't seem like he was arguing too much. So I could tell right away that he thought it was on him.

And I'd missed the throw outside by about a foot, so I was more mad about missing the throw in that situation. But I will give Johnson credit in 33. He's really become a good player. He's a solid corner. He does star coverage where he goes, you know, he'll go side to side with the star receiver. You know, like many guys, if Tay is in the slot,

he won't always go in the slot on him, which is not a knock on him at all. It's just that, you know, usually the slots and slot corner, nickel corner, cover that guy in there. But he's become a really, really solid corner and I think deserves a lot of attention for the Pro Bowl because I think he's had that type of season. Okay, so I didn't really know of him, and that's on me, I guess.

I should watch more film, but I'm not playing against the Bears and the Bears aren't going to be around in the end. The only conversation is, why is Nagy and Pace still there? That's what the Bears' conversation is, so I don't dive into this, but when I saw him traveling with Devontae and in the first half it seemed like he had a lot of success I was like damn like this guy is second half do you and

Devontae talk at halftime and you're like okay this we're gonna do a fake uh fade right to a post for a touchdown we're gonna leave it like is that a conversation that happens at halftime where you guys recognize okay this guy's having some success against us what do we need to do what can we change get in there and how quickly can that conversation take place? Well, that's the beauty of the conversations that happen in the sideline and how important those little things can be. Right before we went out for the two-minute drive, I believe the drive started a little over two minutes,

but Getzey, he said, what are you thinking about this drive? And I said, we've got to move Tay around. And he's like, oh, yeah, I was just going to tell you, we've got to get, let's think about some plays with Devontae in the slot because we feel like that could give us some good matchups. So, you know, we had a couple completions early in that drive and then hit Allen for about 15 on just kind of a quick, you know, vertical peak. And, you know, ripped the timeout.

And I was thinking about what is the best route to take a shot on this play where we can protect it because Dennis was in. I want to make sure he felt comfortable and then give us the best opportunity. So I moved Quez on the same side as Devontae and gave Tay kind of an out-and-up on that play, which he hadn't really run. I can't remember the last time he had run an out-and-up, more or less really an out from the slot. So luckily it all worked out. Marquez on that play deserves a lot of credit

because he was smoking it down the left side and drew not just Jalen Johnson that side, but also the safety attention. And Devontae did a nice job on his route, took his head back on the out, and that was able to put him in a good spot. And then he does just kind of the smoothest catch, avoid walking in zone that you've seen in a while.

A lot of times, that guy either gets drilled or he drops the ball because he knows safety is bearing down on him. But not only did he make a miss, but I think Eddie drilled, you know, the corner on that – the nickel on that play when he was chasing Tay. So, I mean, he's a different type of player. The conversation about the touchdown that happened on the last possession was definitely a halftime conversation.

What were you saying? They showed you after the game talking to Jakeem Grant. What did you say to him and did you have any idea he would have such a huge impact on that game? If we're not playing and the Bears game is on, if it's a punt, I'm definitely watching the play because this guy is so exciting.

Ever since I saw him, they showed a clip, I think when we were playing him the first time, and I saw him catch a ball in the end zone on a punt. I said, this guy is unbelievable. The confidence. Think about the confidence that day. Yes, the confidence is incredible. But a punt return with him in the game is must-see TV. It really is.

You know, I'm just shaking my head watching that. You know, he catches the ball on the five-yard line, I'm thinking. At some point, this guy, you know, we've got to be able to get him down, right? And then he kind of stumbles a little bit. I'm thinking, oh, this is good. This is good. And when he flipped the field, it was like, see ya. Ain't nobody catching this guy. And the other,

they flipped him that little pass when he went in motion, which is basically a punt return for the first long touchdown of the game. I just told him, I mean, he's a little guy. He's probably 5'7", 5'8". But man, I just told him how much I enjoy watching him play. And there's guys

you pull for across the league, even when, you know, against your rivals, but because they're exciting to watch. And you'd pay money to watch, you know, this guy play ball, and then you'd probably be a guy that I'd, you know, pay money to watch return punts for sure. Yeah, your special teams certainly has to tighten up. I mean, I saw it in, like, the first quarter. I was watching some coverage, and I saw a bunch of people stacking

behind each other, and I'm like, this ain't – hey, this can't be happening this late into the season. So they're going to have to do that. And after his long return, I mean, the game was, you know, going a different way. I mean, it was like, holy hell, everything is going the Bears' way right now. And they show your face a lot. You seem to have this like, I think you had your hands in your jersey. You know, you didn't have the turtleneck on. You know, so it was a little bit of a,

okay, it's not that cold, I guess. But you always have this just super chill, like, hey, it's all going to be okay. Is that how it is internally, and is that something you have to work on? Is that something you've worked on throughout your entire career? Yeah, well, you do appear to be stoned. Yeah, I mean, that is something that I would say, but it does feel like you are just in a different universe almost whenever all that shit's happening. Yeah, well, I was basically trying to astral project myself into the stands.

And I was able to do that. And then they found me somehow. They found me in the stands. That was an astral projection of my own body with a filled-in beard. Great beard, by the way. Really nice. Great beard. Yeah, there's the picture.

Yeah, you know, I think the point is always to keep up the positivity on the sidelines and not let them know where you're feeling. Every now and then, I mean, look, you're human. You know, they've caught me saying the F-word probably so many times on TV on the sidelines and not let them know where you're feeling. Every now and then, I mean, look, you're human. They've caught me saying the F word probably so many times on TV or saying – I've said crazy things that they've picked up for sure. But for the most part, I think I'm a little bit more zen and centered the last few years and realizing that everybody's always watching the quarterback and the coach.

And, you know, Matty, you know, to his credit and to, you know, to sometimes his own emotional instability, you know, he runs kind of hot sometimes. So if he's going to be hot and animated, I got to be the cool one. If I'm going to be hot and animated, you know, he's got to be the one to simmer down a little bit. Have you ever seen him without the freshest of fades by the way he is always perfectly faded up his face is always i mean it is i'm i uh met his his barber sent us a couple messages i guess there's a team barber out there that keeps the floor super fresh i mean he is always the freshest. Great eyebrow game, right?

I mean, the eyebrows are amazing. You know, I want to take this time to give a shout-out to his wife, Brie, because much like A.J. knows with some other coaches back in the day, who I won't mention, but there's many coaches who would really have a hard time getting through life without their wife you know because a lot of these guys kind of grow up 98% this scholarship guys some don't know how to do laundry or iron clothes or prepare their own food without going to the you know to the freezer for some Hot Pockets so big

shout out to Brie she's a great wife, great mom. They got two really cute boys who I got to see before the game, Ty and Luke. But Matt's a great guy, and he's well put together on game day. But behind every great coach is a wife pulling all the strings i think to make them to make them look good so a big shout out to brie shout out all the coaches wives and let's talk real quick about the there's a guy that looked like you those in the stands man you just alluded to it and you said you just uh astroed yourself in the crowd there for a little bit. He appeared to be on some.

He's allegedly a Canadian Bavarian fellow who currently lives in Germany. Have you met this man yet? Have you talked to him yet? And at what point were you told that the Internet was falling out of their chairs about this guy watching the game in Lambeau? Total plant. That was a total plant by NBC, I'm sure. They find that guy. I mean, it was unbelievable.

I didn't realize when somebody sent me that, it was like that was during the game that they found that and they put multiple, you know. Eight minutes? It was ten minutes of that thing. I mean, that wasn't hit. The thing that makes me think he might have been a plant is doesn't he turn to the camera and acknowledges the camera?

Yeah, he points at it. But also, I mean, it's interesting. Has he got his SAG card? I mean, I feel like. It would be great hiring, great casting. But I think if a camera was just staring at me, you know, weirdly, and I was potentially smoking the same things or drinking the same things that this guy had, I think I'd be like, Hey, what the hell's going on? I wonder if he knew as well. Seems like a really cool guy. We've seen him on the internet. Um, let's talk about, what about the other doppelganger though? Wasn't there somebody that looked just like

Bill Burr, the comedian Cameron? Yeah. The punter for the Houston Texans. Yeah. It was a good day. I saw that one. That one was a dead on one too. Hey, Bill Burr's coming in studio on Friday. I can't wait to hear what that's going to be like here. I mean, he's going to... Yeah. Say hello for me. Do you know Bill? I got to meet him when he came out to Green Bay

a few years back and do some comedy. Yeah, I enjoy him. Legend. Absolute legend icon. I made him laugh one time at a rough-and-rowdy, and I put that as my Twitter bio. Made Bill Burr laugh one time, just because that's how high I hold him in regards. It's the day before the Patriots and Colts on Saturday,

so he's going to be, I mean, it's going to be fucking unbelievable. Can't wait for that. Let's talk about the coverage, though. Collinsworth was talking about a lot of conversations he had with you, I think, behind the closed doors, alongside conversations he had with Gunter Kuntz and LeFleur, and he said we have and now michaels who's an absolute legend as is collinsworth they said we have nothing

scientific to prove to you that aaron what if i would have died right there what if i would have died right there do you get do you get the rest of the money from fan duel that's what i'm saying and what about the donations those are still going through right and all the boys you guys still got your stuff i just want everybody to know if I do die in the middle of asking a question. He was talking about, though, about how they have no scientific proof, but coming out of the conversation, they feel a lot more positive about Aaron and Green Bay sticking together. And then he said that you told him that you didn't want to drag it out.

You kind of wanted to get it done quickly. And Gunter Kunz and you have a much better relationship. It was a lot of the coverage in the second half was talking about you, your future with Green Bay. Has that been every conversation with every commentator that has come in just asked about that? And how do you feel about that situation currently with what Gunter Kuntz has brought in, where the team is at,

your relationship with him? Allegedly, as soon as you got back on the field after a lot of days off because of the toe and COVID, you went right up to Gunter Kuntz, dapped him up. Packers fans were super pumped about that. Where are you mentally with all of that? And is that the only thing the commentators ask you about now? No.

I mean, look, it's going to be one of the questions for sure moving forward as we get late in the season. I understand that. And I got a question after the game if it was my last time playing against the Bears. I haven't thought about that a whole lot. I mean, I really haven't. I think when you're a creature of habit during the season, your focus definitely narrows.

But at some point, there'll be obviously time to reflect on that and to think about the season. But I think that's weeks and weeks and weeks away. So in the meantime, I don't know that Chris talked to Brian. Usually GMs, I don't think, do production meetings. But there was a lot of questions from Catherine Allen and Chris and uh, you know, where I'm at mentally with the team. And, um, you know, I don't want to overshare, uh, in those situations just because I feel like, uh, just like during the off season, a lot of those conversations need to stay, uh,

between the people involved, uh, with them. But, um, you know, that's been, uh, been a year of conversation between Brian and myself. You know, I feel like I've been involved in a lot of conversations about certain individuals on the squad and also on other squads and making our team better. Obviously, there's been some acquisitions that I think have really helped out and paid dividends for Sewell Douglas, you know, being as big as any of them, but Devondre Campbell as well. I was thinking about it after the game the other night,

the beauty in the game and why I feel romantic about it from time to time is the redeeming qualities that a team can have, the redeeming nature of bringing guys back into the fold who weren't really wanted by other teams and making them feel like they have a real home. And it's that restoring of dignity opportunity that I think every locker room and team has a chance to do based on the personnel that comes in

and the type of personalities that those individual players have. But we've had a lot of guys who I think were kind of outcast guys or afterthoughts at times. Whether they're draft picks who got passed over by a number of teams or drafted later than they thought they were going to be drafted or players who are on the street who weren't wanted by teams, there's been a decent amount of those guys who we've acquired over the years. And I think when you add enough of those guys together

and you make them feel like they're a part of something special, you can really create a tight, cohesive group. And you look at the guys that are making a big impact for us on both sides of the ball, there's a lot of those type of guys. Not just the Rasul Douglases and Devondre Campbells of the world, but Preston Smith coming back and taking a pay cut and setting aside his ego and his pride. And I think he's had such an important impact on our team, not just from a production standpoint, but from a leadership standpoint.

You know, on offense, we just plugged in Dennis Kelly, who wasn't really wanted by a lot of teams. And he had a very nice game for us. Aaron Jones was a late-round draft pick who a lot of people didn't think was ever going to be a number one pick. Look at our offensive line. We have Yash Nishman at left tackle. We have John Runyon Jr. at left guard.

Lucas Patrick at center. Royce Newman and his mullet at right guard. And Dennis Kelly at right tackle. A lot of those guys were either undrafted, drafted late, or not thought of as guys who were going to be contributors to our football team, especially not starting the season out, other than maybe Lucas who was expected to start for us at one of the interior positions. And I think that sets an attitude in the squad of guys who are able to set aside their ego

and have some sort of chip on their shoulder and have some appreciation for coming together and being a part of chemistry in the locker room and togetherness and connectedness. And it's, it's similar to the teams that AJ was on that were our best teams over the years, 2009, 2010, 2014,

where we had a really tight locker room and it's a good feeling coming to work every day. So you love being a green Bay Packer right now. Yeah. I love playing ball, man. Oh, he's loving ball.

Loving ball. This guy loving ball. I love that. Go ahead, Ty. That's gotta be great to hear by the way. Oh, he's loving ball. Loving ball. This guy loving ball. I love that. Go ahead, Ty. That's got to be great to hear, by the way. Yeah, it is. Awesome. Aaron, first and foremost, another incredible game.

That was really fun to watch. I can't remember if it was late first quarter or the second quarter. You carried out one of, if not the most beautiful play action in the history of football when you hit Big big dog down there is that like a dying art do you think how like how often are you practicing like carrying out the fake like that in practice because it seems like a lot of these younger guys like that that really isn't like a big i mean is it a dying art i think it is and i'm glad you asked this you always ask great questions great sweater on today as well

hell yeah um it's a great opportunity to give a shout out to another pittsburgh guy who loves to pick him up and put him down um alex van pelt and coach van pelt came to me one off season and this is piggybacking off another answer i gave earlier about trying to improve on one thing and he said i want you to become a better uh ball handler so we're going to work hard on your fakes your two and one fakes your skip fakes uh because you can be a lot better at that and i said sweet i you. I'm looking forward to the challenge. So we actually used to watch some of AVP's old pit take. And, man, he had incredible fundamentals and sleight of hand.

And I enjoyed watching that stuff. I really did. You know, it was a lot of fun. A lot of fun going back and looking at that stuff. But I feel like that year really improved my fundamentals, ball handling. And that is my favorite fake by far. It's like, you know, we call it like a guitar fake as you're just kind of holding that ball on the notch and allowing that hand to slide through.

The important thing is to make it look the exact same as your quarterback for so long did, to make it look the exact same as the run. So when you're running power or pop, we're pulling a guard to make sure it looks all the same. But, you know, I got to give credit to Alex because the patience of taking two hops after it, letting the head go through,

is all part of the fundamentals of a good fake. Thankfully, I had ABP there to help me with that. Okay, so you said you couldn't wait to get into a headspace one day to make it all the way back to the running back on a rollout to the right to Aaron Jones like Farvey was to Amon. Then now you're talking about the headspace of this play action where you had to commit your entire being to that. I mean, there's a chance you get murdered right there, right?

I mean, there is a chance you get absolutely murdered. Have you ever felt this confident about playing football as you feel right now and how you're playing right now? Look, one of the first times I ever did a fake, we were playing Chicago at home, and Willie Young was, was a D end. And, uh, one of the greatest, uh, uh, celebrations he did, he did, uh, for a long time, he did the fishing one where he'd kind of throw his rod out, you know? And I remember the last day I wanted him doing was sacking me on,

on the guitar fake. And I just, I just told myself right from the place that I just got to commit to it fully. And I committed to it, and he was free on the backside. He kind of had come up the field, and I got him to take the bait and to go after the back on that and throw to completion. And he kind of smiled at me after the play, like, that was pretty good. And we tried to get him later in the game, and he didn't go for it. I was able to kind of throw the ball away.

But one time, a couple years ago, we were playing against Nick Bosa. And I think it was a couple years ago, and we ran that play. And that took a lot of commitment, too, because the ends in the San Francisco scheme, I've always loved to just jet up the field. And I just feel like, you know, one of these times I'm going to be doing it and just get absolutely drilled in the back is definitely possible. But I really thought in that game that was possible.

And just the commitment, though. It's tough to, you can't see the ball and you're looking at the quarterback who's kind of falling his eyes. It's been working. Nobody does it anymore. Nobody does it anymore. It's kind of like a lost art almost. The handoff,

the play action is just kind of procedural now. You know who I think is a real good ball handler? Baker Mayfield. You watch his fakes. I think is a real good ball handler? Baker Mayfield. You watch his fakes. I think he does a really nice job with his fakes. Alex is in Cleveland, so I believe he's probably kind of involved, maybe indirectly, in helping him with that.

But I think Baker does a really good job with ball handling, and he'll do some fakes, and I'll be like, oh, it looks like AVP. That fucking play-action guru, AVP, came fresh out of Pittsburgh. Put that down as another thing that Pittsburgh has absolutely dominated and no big deal. How you doing? Keep moving. Last night was a display of Pittsburgh with Aaron Donald taking on James Conner. That's neither here nor there.

What'd you say? Iron City, bro. You're goddamn right. What are you wearing that shirt all about? And then you said you're not going to play... Oh! Oh! Steelers next year. Hey, you're goddamn right. What are you wearing that shirt all about? And then you said you're not going to play. Oh. Steelers next year. AJ, you can't say that.

You're one of his closest friends. I just said it. What'd you say? I said Steelers next year, right? Hell yeah. Is that why you wore that shirt? Oh, AJ, we don't need to get into leading journalism around here. Okay, the shirt was a gift.

He's wearing it. And did you cut your toe off yet? There it is. Let's journalism around here. Okay, the shirt was a gift. He's wearing it. And did you cut your toe off yet? There it is. Let's get into it. Yeah, because the commitment of this. How is the body? How's the toe? Body's pretty good.

I mean, the toe is definitely hurting after the game Sunday, but it is what it is. It's not going to be a problem. I don't think it's not going to stop me from playing. It's just pain management. But I'm going to keep playing and probably not practice a whole lot unless there's significant improvement. It was great. The bye week, man, was amazing to be able to get that thing healed up

for almost two weeks. But, you know, you go out there and play and run around and try and do some things. It's just going to be painful after the game. Aaron, do you think that you shouldn't have said that if somebody was to step on your broken toe, that would hurt because of competitive advantage? You know what I mean? I saw the internet say, why is he letting people know

that if they were to step on his broken toe, it would hurt him more? Isn't he just setting himself off to be a target? You know, maybe you ever think about that? You know, maybe competitively. I mean, there has been some issues at times with individuals getting really, really cold feet and not being able to know what they're stepping on. about that you know it may be competitive i mean there has been some issues at times with individuals getting really really cold feet and not being able to know what they're stepping on um so i don't that's not out of the realm of possibility i totally understand that

i also felt the need to you know revise uh you know a story that was out there about me about having lesions on my feet. Because of that, I shared more information about the specifics of my injury. I mean, if people want to step on my feet, like, I get stepped on all the time. I mean, I got a band-aid on my shin because I got kicked in the shin. Like, that's just kind of standard playing football. You know, you're going to get stepped on. You you're gonna get rolled up on or kicked or whatever and you know most of the time unintentionally every now and then uh it's more questionable based on the uh you know the the heat index of uh your toes but um i said i don't want to step on your toes here okay i don't want

to step on your toes but your toughness and athleticism doesn't get talked about ever if we keep talking about my toes you can bet that Rex Ryan is going to be wild he is a toe expert he said it himself the other day on Get Up for one of the most magical moments in television history

and we appreciate him for that it is now time for maybe my favorite part of my academia week. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I get a chance to learn about things happening outside of my sphere. Things that I would never know about. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for the 15th edition of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club. Drum roll, please.

This thing started way back. We had no idea that this would continue we thought it was kind of a joke there's no way anybody that watches our show would continue to read books alongside this brainiac aaron rogers it started with the alchemist paulo colo coming through in a big time way loved his readings And then we went through the Daily Stoic The Power and Now Obviously Baumgartner A co-host of Good Morning Football

With the History of the Office And then the last book was The Answer Is by Alex Trebek The 14th book Not the 15th like I said To introduce this entire thing Of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club is The Razor's Edge introduce this entire thing of the Aaron Rodgers Book Club is...

The Razor's Edge. Oh! There it is. There you go. Razor's Edge. This is a book that I actually read over the bi-week. It was a book rec by a longtime friend of mine, Joey. This is a fiction book.

Pat, I know you're more into the fiction than the nonfiction, but it's set in the early 20th century, kind of the first half of the 20th century, and it's about a guy who goes out in search of truth and meaning. So very similar to some of your new favorite books, Pat. Power of Now and Be Here Now and You Are the Universe. You've been sidebarring me a lot about how impressed your wife is with all the reading you've been doing. Thank you.

Big shout-out to your wife as well. Shout-out. Great lady. Shout-out. Yep. But excited for you to read this one because i think there's a lot of uh a lot of larry the main character in you as you have gone out on your own journey in search of truth and meaning so

razor's edge check it out i'm sure it it's at all your Barnes & Noble, online, order wherever you want to. I think I've read some of that. Work hard, dreams come true, bad times don't last, but bad guys do. Razor Ramon, Razor's Edge, can't wait to read that. Aaron, thank you so much for your time. You're the absolute man.

Good luck the rest of the way. Congrats on being number one in the NFC. Congrats on the book club. Can't wait to read Razor's Edge. Let's close this thing out with a little jam sesh, shall we? All right, pick them up one down. How's that? Get Ed off his...

It sounds like a Skype interview. You're going to have to give me something. Okay, well, how about we tell Ed to shut the fuck up? Hanging on the balls, enough is enough. He doesn't even know that a convo is happening. All the fucking racket in the back from Ed's a bitch and... Was there a lot of background noise? Yeah.

I mean, Ed's out there playing the fucking bongos. It sounds like he's on a Zoom tubing back there. There's multiple voices. This guy. Sorry. Still the man. So are you. You can't take this guy anywhere.

We appreciate you. Come on. Snap him up, Ed. Ladies and gentlemen, the, hey. See? Maybe. He wants to come in the shot now, but I'm going to hang up for that. He's going to make too much noise.

I mean, you were already all over this thing audio-wise. Might as well get in there a little video money, Team Ed. Hey, AJ. When you – Nope. Told you. You knew he had nothing. Joining us now, a man that was drafted out of Nebraska,

born and raised in Miami, absolute superstar linebacker, Pro Bowl All-Pro, now Super Bowl champion from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, ladies and gentlemen, Levante Davis. Yeah! What's up, dude? What's up? What's up with it? Hey, hey we're gonna have to call you back we'll call you back right now levante we'll see you in like two seconds get a little tighter uh connection

there you know what i mean aj technology is the greatest thing of all time worst thing of all time don't think we had a good connection gotta take the tractor another round and then we'll park that son of a bitch and then we'll make a good connection with old levante david and the conversation should be absolutely fantastic. Joining us again, ladies and gentlemen, Levante David. Yeah! Perfect. What's up, what's up?

What are you doing? Is today your off day? You back at home hanging out, relaxing, saying, hey, the team's good, let's have a good time with it? Man, never off day. Never off day. I just came back from the facility actually to get some extra work done, you know, trying to get prepared for the week.

Okay, so the last time you were on, we talked about this, where you came to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2012. There was a lot of hard times down there in Tampa, and obviously every NFL building experiences wins and losses. But now that you guys have come into not only winning a Super Bowl in your own stadium, but here we are in a back-to-back year looking to make a run in an NFC that is a massive question mark. How's the vibe in Tampa as a whole and in that locker room, Levante?

The vibe is real good. It's real smooth. You know, everybody's just going about it, you know, day to day. And then in the locker room, we all just, you know, taking it one day at a time, one game at a time. Really no looking forward. Everybody's just running about what we all just, you know, taking it one day at a time, one game at a time. Really no looking forward. Everybody just running about what we can attack, you know, this upcoming week.

You know, we got a division opponent coming up, Saints. You all know how those past games have been. So, we definitely focus on that. We can't look ahead. Do you ever find yourself talking to some of the young guys who came in? You guys don't know. Like, I've paid my dues here. I've been here a while, been through

multiple different coaching staffs. I guess, what has it been like from when you first got there until now? Like, what's that whole journey been like? And what's it been like to coach or I guess to play for, is this your fourth coach now? Yeah, fourth coach. Shoot, I tell him all the time. I tell him all the time, like, man,

y'all have no idea what me and some of the guys who've been here and some people in the staff been here, been through since 2012. Man, it's been up and down. There's been some crazy times. We've seen some stuff. We've seen a lot of people come in and out. So I'm like, man, y'all got it good right now.

Y'all basically getting spoon fed. You come in, you got Tom Brady as your quarterback. You win the Super Bowl. You win the playoffs. You got to win the records. Man, y'all ain't see the other side of it. But it's definitely good to be a part of, man. But, you know, we got a lot of good young guys, man,

who, you know, take in the knowledge that the Pets give. Yeah, the boat parade life is much different, you know, than what you guys had been experiencing down there. Hopefully no manatees were hit in the drunkenness that was that celebration in Tampa that has set a new bar for parades and celebrations, I think. Let's talk about last year's run and then this year. Last year, after the bye week, it felt like your entire team kind of came together. The defense started flying around. Everybody was on the same page.

Championship defense was being played. On the offensive side, it felt like you guys were changing what you guys were up to and what you guys were doing offensively. I know that's not a part of your department, but down the stretch, it really felt like you guys were becoming a team last year. It's like, okay, this is why all the hype was all the hype whenever it came into this season. This year, do you guys feel like you're anywhere near what you can be?

Are you guys still developing? And what is kind of the day-to-day in there? Do you guys still feel like you've got a lot to prove? We still feel like we've got a lot to prove. You know, we talk about it every time. December football is where you get down to need gritty. You know, all those tough games come in, you've got to win them out. You know, we just won overtime, you know, last overtime last weekend, there's gonna be a lot of close games

coming in like that this upcoming weeks. So December football is really, really brutal. So we definitely try to lock in the home and last year we hit the sky running coming off a bow, we got guys by healthy. And whatever happened on offense, worked at the perfect time. Then Whatever happened on offense, it worked at the perfect time. Then whatever happened on defense, it worked at a perfect time. So now we're still trying to get some guys back healthy, still trying to get some guys back in the group

so we can be able to hit the stride again. Can you go back to training camp and remember, I guess, what your schedule and everything was? Because all I remember is B.A. in some of these after the boat parade or later on throughout the offseason talk about he's going to kill you guys in camp. And Pat and I would talk about it a lot. Like, man, this I want to go watch these practices. I don't want to be a part of it. I'd like to watch them because they're going to kill each other. Like, how was camp this year?

Camp was real physical, real physical, like no other. You know what I'm saying? A lot of a lot of banging, you know, a lot of full padded practices padded practices, a lot of cursing each other out, a lot of offense on defense, brawls, and stuff like that. And it gets real competitive, obviously, when you got Tum on the other side and then guys on defense, me, Devin, some guys like that. It gets real competitive. And you got AB on the other side, too, as well.

So it gets real competitive, real fun. And then is the point where you keep being beaten up on each other throughout camp. You just like one day somebody just gonna let it loose and be like, forget it. Just get a brawl in or whatever it may be. And then we had a practice with the Tennessee Titans. That was fun to be a part of, to get a chance to go against another team, a joint practice. And that week doing that practice was real fun to be a part of, to get a chance to go against another team, a joint practice.

That week, doing that practice was real fun to be a part of. Did you guys feel like, you know what, we're the Super Bowl champs, but we ain't no bitches either. I mean, Antonio Brown, I think, landed a clean left if you do remember in that fight. How do you guys keep that edge down there?

Because we know Tampa, there's cranes everywhere. That place is being built up. The golf is gorgeous. What's that one street that kind of goes along the, you know, it's across. There's a view that is just gorgeous. And you guys have won. And you're a bunch of OGs now at this point down there, although you've got some young people.

How do you guys keep that edge, you think? Do you think it's within the locker room like you guys know and you guys just have to continue to build? Or what is it? I think it's within the locker room like you guys know and you guys just have to continue to build or what is it uh i think it was in the locker room it all starts with the head man ba you know uh ba man uh he tell us all the time you know you can't get complacent you know uh you can't you know think about last year you got to be able to move forward from that you know still have that unadulterated mentality and uh we got a lot of guys who have that mentality you know me in me in particular, knowing where I came from, you know, I want to continue to, you know, keep building on what we've done last year.

I don't want to go back to that down that old path, you know what I'm saying? So definitely, you know, me as one of the guys to try to just hone in on a lot of young guys, let them know, you know, last year was last year. This is a new season. So it's a lot of different stuff we need to continue to improve on and be able to get where we want to be at the end of the season. Hey, when you watched Josh Allen start rolling there, were you like, what the fuck is wrong with this guy? Did you think that?

And how do you rank him when it comes to tackling him? Oh, man. Josh Allen is a special talent. I didn't know he was that fast. I did not know he was that fast. He's one of those guys who, once he get going, his momentum going, just keep on carrying him. And it's definitely hard to tackle.

I know y'all seen the picture of Devon White jumping on his back trying to sack him. So he's definitely a big dude, bigger than I expected. And he's a special talent in his league, man. And his future is definitely bright. You guys definitely had a good draft, too. It seems like from the top down, your organization's running pretty smooth right now. But I wanted to ask you about Antoine Winfield back there.

Steps in as a rookie, makes a bunch of big plays during the season, in the playoffs, in the Super Bowl. Did you expect a guy like that to come in day one and be able to have such an impact? You know, the crazy thing is, you know, I didn't know what to expect from Antoine. I didn't know how they was going to use him. I didn't know they was going to force him in right away. But I remember one time, you know, during last year, during training camp, when we came in, we was doing walkthroughs and things, and he was in the back, you know, calling out players,

calling out adjustments and stuff like that, calling out what he got to do with his assignments. And I kind of looked behind him like, you know, I don't usually see a rookie doing stuff like that, being real vocal. Sometimes they just try to just, the rookies just try to chill and just try to learn, but he stepped in right away and did some great things and he kind of impressed me right away in the show with the season he had and the season he's having right now.

Tuan definitely has emerged as a leader and our secondary on our defense as a whole. As a young football player, he got a lot of respect from the vets. And obviously his dad played a long time and, you know, his dad taught him some great things and he's proven it. Let's talk about the secondary. I mean, so many injuries at corner and then Sherman comes in, he gets another pick. He was out for a couple of weeks. I don't know if his body's fully ready to go full-time in there. But how do you address that with Bowles?

Like, what did he say? Hey, listen, next man up is obviously awesome. But when you're like six, seven deep in the next man up, it kind of becomes a little bit tiring. Do you think that has kind of slowed down the growth of this year's defense, all the injuries that have happened on the back end? Yeah, to a certain extent. You know, we came in offseason with a certain type of

style that we wanted to play and then we lose one of our guys, Sean Murphy Bunting at the beginning of the season. So it kind of changed up a little bit and then we ended up losing Carlton, one of our top guys. And then Dean's been in our lineup and then you got some other guys coming in and out. So it definitely changed up the philosophy that Coach Bowles, you know, try to, you know, try to implement for the defense. But, you know, with those guys, you know, like you said, man, it's a next man up mentality. And then you got Coach Rock, you know, Coach Ross, who's a great DB coach, you know, he just try to, you know,

get those guys, you know, going, you know, it was always like, you know, put another bullet in the chamber and keep firing. You know, we got a lot of young guys back there, but we got faith in all of them that step out on the field with us. We got a couple stud linebackers flying around. That D-line, Vita Vea, looks like he's gotten faster somehow

over the years. What is Vita Vea like on the day-to-day? What a fucking animal that guy is. Yeah, Vita, Vita, that's my boy. On a day-to-day basis, he's coming in the building. You know, he always walking around like he owns the building because it's so big. So, he just automatically puts that on him.

You know, when he walk in, he's like, oh, this must be the guy who's owning everything here. But he's definitely a big, you know, big, cool, chill, big guy. You know, loves joking around, loves playing around, loves, you know, laughing. But when it's time to get on the field, you know, he's definitely a guy who's always locked in. You know, you don't see big guys communicating as much, but he's on the D-line communicating, talking. And, you know, it's good to always have him, you know,

in front of me week to week. You know, so he's definitely a fun person to play around. But, you know, man, I give my hat off to all those guys up front. Sue, Will, Nacho, Dick Steve, all those guys, man. He was part of what we do defensively. Vita Vea ate a helmet. Yeah. He ate one of his two. He said, give me a fucking helmet right now.

And on this show, he called him Dominick and Sue, big girl. I was like, God damn, this guy's got all the confidence in the world. He's awesome to watch. Did you get surprised that the Colts didn't run the ball against you guys when they were up 17 or no? You don't have to answer that. Yeah, you don't have to answer that. Go ahead, Ty.

Go ahead. Levante, obviously you're from Miami, but I know you went to Nebraska. And I can't remember if we asked you this before, but have you got on horseback with Devin White yet? Is that something you're maybe considering doing in the future here? If you guys win the Super Bowl again, you go hit the trails with him on horseback? I've been horseback riding one time, but it wasn't with Devin. But I'm considering doing it with Devin.

Devin tries to invite you over to his house and say he wants you to horseback ride, but he's going to want you to clean out the stalls and stuff. Oh! Yeah. He wants you to help him clean out everything with the horses. So I just be like, man, make sure all that clean first, and then invite me over. Hey, that's smart.

You've got to earn your ride over here. Hey, welcome. You've never been here before. You don't know any of these horses. But first, we're going to make sure this shit is cleaned up. We need to get this hay over here. Let's go ahead and do these horses. That's the way. Let's go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Levante, have you or any of the guys

on the team watched the Tom Brady documentary to learn a little bit more about him, or are you just waiting until the Buccaneers episode to relive the Super Bowl again? Nah, nah. I've been watching. Me and my wife have been watching it. Just trying to get a chance to see. I've only known Tom for a year, so I just try to see how he was back then

when he first started and stuff like that. Oh, no. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah, that was a terrible question. I know. What happened? Why do you always got to tie things back to the Patriots?

I just wanted to ask. Plus, my real question was Ty's question. You see, he just asked right before. The amount of times that happens. I just wanted to ask plus my real question was Ty's question. He just asked right before the amount of times that happens. I thought that was a good question, Connor. I was really... Oh, shut up, AJ! That wasn't a question. Because I had a couple follow-ups

there, too, from watching Tom. Because Vrabel, all Vrabel said basically in that goddamn thing was, hey, this little quarterback you all have, he can handle. He's a little bit different. Hey, Levante, you're back. Hey, Levante! Super Bowl champ!

Welcome back. The man in the arena, Tom Brady. Have you learned anything about him? You think that you haven't been able to pick up in the last year? What are your overall thoughts? Just a little bit. Learned how he came from where he was at the beginning to where he's at now. His whole mentality, how his mentality changed, and how he became the leader that he is.

So I'm definitely seeing a lot. I'm learning a lot about him by watching the documentary, and it's cool to see. Hey, is Scott Frost going to be able to get it done in Nebraska? They stink. Of course. No, they stink. No, they stink.

You guys stink, dude. You guys stink. Nah, man. I got all faith in the real Scott Frost, man. I've met him, you know, multiple times. He's a great dude, and he's definitely going to turn around real soon. Hey, when I say this, how cool do I sound? Nebraska's straight trash, dude.

Hey, that is such a Miami. I heard you say it earlier about hitting your scrotum, hitting your scrotum. How often do you go back to Miami? Is that still home in the offseason? You still dialed in down there? Yeah, Miami's home. I just finally finished my house down there, so I call it home in the offseason.

My family's back down there, so it's cool to get back, you know, with family and friends, you know, in the offseason and wind down a little bit. But, you know, Tampa's a beautiful place. You know, obviously this is my second home, but I can't go away from home in Miami. So many, so many freak athletes out of Miami. Why is it? Is it because you guys just hit your stride at a much later time?

Is it because of competition, you think? Because everybody that's down there, is it the year-round training? What do you think it is, natural, like from a high level? What do you think it is? Yeah, I think it's just a year-round thing. You know, football don't stop down there. You know, I remember, you know, I've talked to a couple of my teammates before. They was like, I got spring football.

I'm like, yeah, we got spring football. It don't stop. You know, so we definitely, you know, people start young and then keep on going, keep on improving throughout your childhood. And then, obviously, you know, the talent, the competition is real, real hefty. So, you definitely got to, when you step on the field out there, you definitely got to talent, the competition is real, real hefty. So you definitely got to step on the field. I know you definitely got to come with it. That's awesome.

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Football national champion at The Ohio State University. Super Bowl champion at The Green Bay Packers. Ryder Cup champion for The United States Golf Team. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron James Hawk. The baby Aaron James. What's up, dude? That's false. I like food, and I do eat food.

I don't only eat grilled chicken and rice. I eat plenty of different things. Well, that's what Aaron told us last time, is that your wife. I mean, that's all he does is tell lies about me when he comes on. Oh, he misleads everybody. What's this guy's deal? Oh, liar. I was writing that verse. So, the son of a bitch lied all the fucking time about what AJ did.

Not according to Collinsworth. What do you think? What do you think? What do you mean? Chris Collinsworth and Al Michaels are doing a lot of talking about Aaron Rodgers, the person during that game, as he was, you know,

throwing for four tuds of zero interceptions against the Chicago Bears just a couple days after, you know, being asked if he regrets doing what he did after scoring a touchdown in Chicago while getting flipped off. Although I heard a lot of people say some terrible things on the field to each other, by the way, this past weekend. I wonder if any of that will be brought up as bulletin board material.

In-game shit talk was being used as bulletin board material now for the Chicago Bears. So much so that Nagy had to answer it. He was having so much fun. And then Aaron said, no, no more fun for you. Okay, no more fun for you. Okay, no more fun for you. And it felt like he and Devontae did something at halftime because Jalen Johnson was doing very well, I think, on the defensive side of the ball in the first half. And then in the second half, you know, water found its level.

Devontae and Aaron, they kind of went and did their thing. But what did you mean by Collinsworth didn't thank you? What are you talking about? What do you mean? What are you saying? During the game, Collinsworth went on like a long thing saying, which I thought was good, saying like Aaron's been very honest and open. He's giving us his opinion.

Collinsworth sounded like he was trying to say he's giving us his opinion on everything, and he's real just open and comfortable is what I took from it. But I think a lot of people say, well, what are you talking about? He's not being honest. Well, he's actually guarding and misleading people like fucking asshole. I think Collinsworth was trying to say, like I've mentioned on here before kobe bryant rest in peace one of my favorite of all time kobe as he got older got really really comfortable i feel like with the media you'd hear he would cuss all the time like in regular sit down interviews he would give his

like legit opinion and i thought it was awesome well i think it's good because you get a chance to learn you know from the people that are at the highest of high levels. Now, Kobe Bryant, obviously, absolute icon. We are not putting Aaron at Kobe's level. I don't want anybody to think we're doing that, okay? But what we're saying is as these guys who are at the top of their field start to open up more, it's only good for society. You know, it's only good. Like, the more I get to learn from Aaron Rodgers and learn about Aaron Rodgers, in my eyes, as somebody who likes to watch documentaries and know why greats are fucking great,

I would like to know what separates this particular human from that particular human. And getting to have these conversations has been fantastic. But there's a lot of people who say, he needs to not do this anymore. He needs to go back to not saying anything. When we could tell all the stories about him that we wanted and there was no rebuttal at all. There's a lot of people that think that and you know i appreciate the fact that he says no no we're hey we're gonna keep on having these conversations i'm pretty excited about today's yeah i think i asked him maybe last season about that i think he said like yeah i don't care

like i don't i don't worry about what's going on around me whatever i'm just going to give my opinion he definitely worries about what's going on around me, whatever. I'm just going to give my opinion. He definitely worries about what's going on around the NFL, though, because we've asked him a couple different times about situations in different places, and he's like, well, that team, you know, they started out, what, 1-3, I think, and now they're like, blah, blah, blah. He, like, runs through their entire record. And now it's coming out that he recalled a preseason play that Brett Favre ran in 2005 against the Buffalo Bills

and used it in his head to score and throw the ball to Aaron Jones. He said Favre, in one preseason game, I think it was 2005, he made all his reads on a rollout, and then he threw back across his body to Amon Green. Amon Green. And I remember thinking to myself in the moment, in this preseason game, like 2005, oh, that was really cool that he did that.

And then when he threw it back to Aaron Jones, he said he thought of that. So they the research and they're like turns out uh Farvey did throw a touchdown to him on green in that preseason game for 12 yards and above just like last week or two weeks ago or last week whenever you asked him about throwing the ball three times in a game and he was like I don't think that would ever be necessary and then I you know a lot of people were like Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to win a game, doesn't care about the Patriots winning, only cares about his stats or whatever.

I was like, well, I don't think that's what he said at all if you listen to his answer. But in his answer, he was like, I think my first game we threw it 18 times. No, no, 22 times. And then he just moved on the conversation and people were like, turns out he did throw it 22 times in his first ever fucking game,

which is 17 years ago or whatever. It is amazing. I really enjoy these Tuesdays, man. I really enjoy the hell out of them, AJ. Yeah, so do I. And you say it all the time. His recall is off the charts. And I actually, what's weird is I think this morning I was listening to some

of our old buddies from Tahoe. What do you call them? Noltsy and Stoltsy? Colt Nost and Noltsy, their podcast. You probably have no recollection of them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, they had Brandon Stokely on their podcast, and he was awesome.

I didn't know. He's from Louisiana, like awesome southern dude, played 15 years. He was talking about Peyton, and he was very funny, but he said the same thing. He's like, Peyton remembers everything. Like his memory, like he's never forgotten anything. He knows everything that's going on. So I think, yeah, those, especially the quarterback position,

there's a certain personality types, a certain like drive type A personality that I think it takes. And I wonder if that's why the game is changing because there's only a few people that have that trait, right? So if, and by the way, I couldn't do it. AJ couldn't do it. We're not talking about anybody that couldn't do it. What we're saying is, if you're a franchise

and you know that that is what makes your franchise quarterback be the best, he has to be able to throw, has to be able to interact with his teammates, has to be able to remain humble and have a great work ethic, but also has to have a brain that is absurd. And it doesn't have to be in anything

other than football. That's probably the most important thing, because there's a lot of guys that can slang it, that have an arm, that could look really good in a workout. There's a lot of guys out there, but there's not a whole lot of starting NFL quarterbacks that can consistently win games. Some guys can jump in and be a flash in the pan, but to consistently do it, yeah, you have to be something else. I wonder if that's why the college game is starting to creep into the NFL game more

because they're like, hey, we don't – listen. It's hard to find these guys. if that's why the college game is starting to creep into the NFL game more because they're like, listen, if we're going to be waiting around for another guy with photographic memory that can call back, and then Mac Jones shows up, and everybody's like, no. Eight teams passed. It's like, how the hell does this happen? How does it happen? Why does this continue to happen?

We are now a part of the media in sports journalism you know that's what we are and we're supposed to be idiots you know like that is nobody's really expecting us to make any groundbreaking decisions that will navigate everybody's an idiot like everybody we're all idiots well that's what i'm saying and now i'm looking at like mac jones and we start thinking about aaron calling back yeah you're not those guys yeah yeah that's what i'm saying we start thinking about aaron calling back to 2005 and then 2006 and then last year he said oh they ran a coverage and i saw him like my second game ever in his rain man yeah in 25 seconds so he has to digest that entire thing and then do oh what did they do before oh they slid here they did this oh i gotta go here boom

let's do that oh shit not enough time time out okay and then tom brady can do it peyton manning can do it you hear these people talk about those who are at the top, what they can do and what they can't do. It came out that Mac Jones can do this thing. I don't know how every other team that's supposed – all these people that are supposed to be smart. We're not supposed to be smart. How do these other people that are supposed to be in positions of intelligence

in football go, yeah, yeah, fuck that guy. We don't want him. Let's go ahead and let him fall. How does that happen, you think, when it seems so cut and dry now? But I guess we have hindsight to look back on. But I feel like that brain thing is what they should be testing on the quarter. How do we figure out who's got the brain and who doesn't have the brain? Yeah, but you saw Zach Wilson roll left and throw the ball back to his right.

You remember that. Are you kidding me? It was one of the greatest throws in the history of football. Yeah, and I understand. And there was the Goldman Standard that came out. Yeah, Fields. I mean, the Goldman Standard. Highest score ever.

And Fields, by the way, might be one of these guys as well. And the situation certainly helps for Mack because the fact that he fell out of all these, you know, Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville. Yikes. What we ever know. What we ever know. No way. Zach Wilson at the Jets.

And this is kind of, I guess, a bummer, but I think they're viewed the same way. Like, will we ever know? I have no idea. He's a Jet, you know, and the Jets shouldn't be like that. They're in a massive – the Lions, same thing. Like, will we ever know? Or is this person's career just going to be wasted? And the more and more teams that get added to that list,

it seems even more impressive what the coaches at New England and other places are able to do. If you could redraft right now, would Mack go number one? Yeah, I believe so, right? Yeah, probably. But I also think whoever ended up in New England, that was the best situation. So no matter who went there.

Will they take a quarterback if Mack wasn't available? If it was like Trevor or one of those guys. I don't know about Trey Lance just because, like, who knows? We haven't really seen him play that much. But I feel like they would probably either have to take a quarterback or just – They didn't trade up at all, right? So everybody would think that if they really wanted a quarterback,

they would have traded up. But maybe Bill, with his all-knowing, you know, brain, was like, hey, nobody's going to take this guy. This guy, if he's not going 30, he stinks. Everybody's going to hate him. Yeah, and they already had Cam. They already brought Cam back. So just in case Mac wasn't ready or whoever they were gonna pick just think of the situation though

did you hear like look at the situation if you see how much like for quarterbacks especially like your situation matters so much look at uh trevor lawrence jacksonville what he's going through day to day and then on sundays and then compared to mac jones like bill belichick's been doing it for however many decades a a well-oiled machine. Urban's come in trying to get his feet underneath him, I guess, as they say, and trying to get his roots in the NFL. And the rest of your team, who knows what's going on. And, yeah, like there's just so much turmoil,

and I would imagine it's vastly different if you followed both those guys around for a week. Yeah, if we had hard knocks on – or one of those HBO 24s on Trevor Lawrence and on Mac Jones, it's a little bit different. They had to explain to Bill Belichick what a chop house actually was. It's a chop house. What are we chopping?

Oh, we take axes. That's what we've been saying this entire time. Keep chopping. That's a chop house. No, no, no, sir. Actually, it's a meat and boozy establishment that Urban Meyer owns, and he didn't fly back with his team, actually, so he could visit it in the middle of the football season.

Bill Belichick. This guy fucking stinks. It's vastly different. You're right. Situations are certainly situational in this particular case, but it will never make sense to me on how Mac Jones ended up in New England, especially with how it appears as if it's going to be going. They're number one in the AFC.

Obviously, you see the signs that were very, very, very expensive to make. First in the NFC, first in the AFC. The toxic table is all of a sudden the king of everything. Let's talk about last night and why the Green Bay Packers are the top of the NFC. The Arizona Cardinals coming out of a bye week. Look a little clunky. First play of the game, Aaron Donald drives guard. Seven yards into

backfield, gets a sack, ends it with one. Had three sacks, a pass deflection that led to an interception in the red zone. Took over the game completely. Arizona Cardinals, I think they're going to bounce back. I don't have much worry about them. Maybe this was a good wake-up call for them. What was your takeaway after watching this game, AJ?

It turned into a fun game to watch. Starting on that first play, Aaron Donald, he does things that he makes people look like they're middle schoolers. It's a crazy thing, too. Aaron Donald, he's not a gigantic human. It's unnatural. Not unnatural, but

a guy shouldn't be able to move like he is. What does he weigh? Three, what? Aaron Donald? With a straight six-pack. He's just such a freak in how he moves and how strong he is. So, I think we knew once we saw that first play, like, all right, this may be a fun one for us. Hey, that's that East Hills water, dude.

Yeah, man, for real. That's his root. Like, that goes back to his roots, man. Like, that dude is cock strong at all times. 285, by the way. And I saw the video of – in his basement, you know, where he grew up in Penn Hills which is in the east hills of Pittsburgh it's next to Plum and Penn Hills used to be a rivalry and then you

know Penn Hills did beat Plum and basically everything just going forward but they showed a clip of you know him working out and he told his dad after he signed his deal hey you can retire now and they went back to like how that's all aaron donald love was just working out from the very beginning and now he has a gym at the upmc training complex that he donated to pit he has his own locker room i mean he is like he has dedicated his entire life to being a physically dominant human being and everybody on earth knows it everybody even people that don't know a lot about football they say oh aaron donald he's a really fucking good guy right because how come arizona do you think like what do you what do you think happened how hard it's hard to like double you know if it's a pass rush whatever it's

hard to what are you gonna take your tackle and double aaron donald that's what they've been doing they've been doing that i know but he's great at splitting those doubles too and then all of a sudden you're screwing the rest of your guys so you got to try to figure it out and when a guy is like there is definitely many many plays in each game where aaron donald is pretty much unblockable the quarterback just has to hope he gets rid of the ball how about that james connor touchdown down in the goal line yeah aaron came flying around by the way goal line offense okay guy comes scot-free somehow because he just throws a guy which in of itself is insane because that is the entire goal of that play is to make it a scrum, basically, so everybody kind of.

Instead, Aaron Donald comes scot-free, grabs James Conner, who, like, throws him. He gets tossed around two people, lands on his feet. He landed on his fucking feet. Like a cat. They're going to throw a cat off a roof. Don't they land on their feet? 200.

Yeah, because they actually have an ability to open up their body like a parachute and find landing. Yeah, that is a natural ability for the cats to do. It's kind of insane to watch them and have a bunch of little ones roaming around. But at 285, he fucking landed on his feet. The guy is just a freak show. Is he enough, you think, on the defensive side? Obviously, Jalen Ramsey not playing he's not happy about called a bunch of bullshit and he said don't even reach out to me

by the way fucking all right to whom it may concern don't hit me up please says Jalen Ramsey who I am a massive fan of do you think the Rams after last night you think they're telling themselves and do you think you have bought in at all that maybe the Rams can go on a run here I think the Cardinals are going to bounce back. Slow game. They're not great at home. They're going to have to figure that out, obviously, to become a real contender. But off the bye week, got smacked in the mouth by a division rival

who didn't have all their players. Maybe they'll bounce back. What about the Rams, though? Matthew Stafford had a game that made me feel like, okay, this is what we thought Matthew Stafford was going to be able to become with Sean McVay's offense. What are your thoughts on the Rams' future now? I mean, I like him.

I really like their defense. Just imagine if Von Miller gets going. Once he gets more comfortable in the scheme and really gets centered there and figure everything out, that is another added element. The dude is an MVP, Super Bowl MVP. Was he the MVP of the Super Bowl? Yeah, I don't know if he was MVP.

No, they did. Yeah, he was. Yeah, they did. He batted the ball out of Cam Newton's hand like, give me that. They had him covering Rondell Moore in a wheel route last night. I'm not sure how comfortable he's going to be with that. I hate when defense coordinators do that. Yeah. Sometimes that does happen, unfortunately. They're like, oh, they got the right play on here.

You have to do that. I don't think it's by design. That's a check, right? Something just happened. You kind of got fucked. Or the offense guessed right and like hey if they're going to do this they're going to drop vaughn to the flat here we're going to we're going to run this wheel right at the seam and see what he what he does ron deal more is very quick yeah very explosive kyler murray uh some of those balls that stafford threw too were beautiful that was a deep over to cut was a cooper cup late oh my gosh kidding. And there was a couple. I mean, Orlovsky said that the one throw, you know,

just immediately after Herbert just had a 70-whatever-yard toss off of two steps in a bucket. Just big-time moment for Herbert. I mean, that was a massive moment. Orlovsky goes, ah, eighth break today. This throw is better than that one or whatever. And that's because Orlovsky's friends with Stafford But I think we all expected this Out of Stafford because of

If you watched him play or had to play against him Or had to watch He's so fucking talented And it feels like he has the right mindset to kind of handle He's so driven, he's so crazy competitive I know from playing against him, like that dude He wants, he'll Like if all of a sudden a sword came flying out of the crowd and was stabbing him through his heart, he'd be like, it doesn't matter.

We got to finish this drive, guys. We got 30 seconds left. Hey, don't take it out. That'll make it bleed more. That's amazing. That's the kind of guy I feel like he is from playing against him. Broken neck. He's had back, ribs, ankle, fingers and Fucked up fingers and hands and stuff.

Yeah, had Detroit kind of all over. That's just the stuff we know about. We don't know about a lot of the stuff that bothers us. And he just played last night. He started limping a little bit, and I was like, is Stafford going to be hurt? Did you see his post-game interview? Did you see his post-game with Cooper Cup?

Uh-uh. What happened? I did. I was actually more impressed, and he felt like it looked like he was almost disappointed. They were talking about his connection with cooper's like yeah i missed a few of them like he definitely wasn't overly excited about the win like oh this is the best like you could tell he was in his mind he's

like yeah we need to i gotta figure things out cooper and this is first year in that offense right and aaron when aaron was in the first year with the floor offense he still had like 20 some touchdowns in like single digit low single, low single-digit interceptions. Two or three, yeah. Which led to the greatest clip of all time from Aaron. You know, down years for me are career years for other people. Everybody's talking about me falling off. First year in a brand-new offense, two interceptions and 20-some touchdowns.

Get the fuck out of here, basically. But then as he got more comfortable with the offense, obviously, and it's kind of become his offense, I think. I think he has been the one that has told LaFleur, and he and LaFleur have had a great relationship, I think, sitting down saying this is what we want to do. McVay and Stafford, they have, what, four years together probably at least? Yeah.

Yeah. Have to. Out there at least four years maybe? I don't know. I would imagine McVay definitely wants at least four years. So they're only going to continue to grow, and I think that's probably what Stafford's talking about. Stafford will feel so much more comfortable when they start OTAs this offseason.

It's going to be like, okay, good. You get that recall, everything. You don't have to. It just becomes second nature, I feel like. And let's talk about Odell Beckham Jr., three straight games with touchdowns in him, obviously. He looks fast, had 70-some yards last night, made some great catches, had the fade two games ago, whatever the case.

You know, some people, Justin Jefferson included out of LSU, that LSU alumni wide receiver room is obviously very tight, always have been, always will be. Justin Jefferson said, hey, people are saying that OBJ was the problem in Cleveland. Here we have three tuds in three weeks with McVay's offense, and McVay loves them. You know, I watched some mic'd up things weeks with McVay's offense and McVay loves him. You know, I watched some mic'd up things and McVay's telling

Stafford, like, hey, tell Odell he's all by himself right here. Like, we are going to Odell Beckham Jr., basically. That is, and they got him going early. They got him going early, which I think is a big deal. I thought they had some beautiful play calling last night by McVay when Stafford, he delivered at times. I mean, it wasn't perfect,

but man, some of those balls, he looked like these guys can make a run. We're happy for OBJ, right? Absolutely. How about OBS too? He's pretty pumped. Cleveland stinks. And Baker stinks. Happy for anybody that gets to escape Cleveland. What's that, bud? Happy for

anybody that gets to escape Cleveland and go to a city like LA. That's an awesome story. Truly. What's going to happen with the Braves? I mean, who cares? We're not talking about them right now. They just got a big win over the Ravens. Hey, congrats.

They got bigger issues coming up right now. What? They got a lot of COVID. Well, I think the Omicron, and I don't want to – I'm not getting into this entire thing because I don't know shit about fuck, especially in this world, but I think the Omicron is a fast runner. Oh yeah. Yeah.

But I don't know if the, nah, it might be the strongest thing of all time. I'm not sure that's how it was originally pitched, but I think the way it's being talked about now is it's very minimal, right? Like very minimal side effects from some particular strains, not all Omicrons, but some, and we understand that people are still passing away. COVID is still a thing. I very much get it. Very much much a thing especially depending on which state you're in yeah first time i had to show my vaccination card to get into places it was out

in la by the way oh yeah they were worse checkers of the vaccination card than most of the clubs that i went to when i was 15 16 with a fake id i will say going through the motions i was expecting a little bit more one person didn't even know my name looked at the card okay you're good it was like you don't even know my name what usually you have to give them your id with it yeah it's didn't this particular place now you're good to come in there it's like all right but what if omicron's running through and they're creating positive tests obviously people are positive because omicron is they just passed a they just passed a like a statewide mask mandate for California indoors I did have I believe so today it's very it goes until January 15th or start yeah like I don't know well because it's not just a bronzer there's 37 players

currently in I don't know how many are serious um side effects and symptoms I went through it I had 104 and a5 degree fever. I would like to talk about some chills and aches, but I guess not everybody's doing that. Allegedly, the Omicron is a quick spreader, and it's not as bad symptom-wise. I wonder how the NFL is going to deal with that because Omicron might be the most permeable variant of COVID.

Who's Tier 1, Tier 2? Sorry, who's Tier 1, Tier 2? They have to get the boost right now. Okay, so here we go. We can talk about that. That's a great lead into it. Tier 1, Tier 2 employees of the NFL have to get the booster of the vaccination. This is coming via Diana Rossini. A memo from the NFL is expected to go out tomorrow to inform teams that all Tier 1 and

Tier 2 employees are mandated to receive a COVID-19 vaccine booster shot per sources. Okay, so that is anybody that's around the players on a day-to-day. The coaches, the equipment managers, the athletic trainers, the video staff, the chefs, people in the building that have to deal with the players or in close proximity to the players. The players are in a different thing because the NFLPA, the union, has a different set of rules. The Tier 1, Tier 2 employees of the teams that have to be around the players

on a daily basis now have to live by their own rules. Okay, so that's obviously all the coaches as well, right? Oh, yeah. And do they have like a deadline where they have to get it? I assume that tweet right there was the NFL telling all the coaches. Yeah, they'll come into the facility, I guess, and do it. So they got to make it easy for them. Hey, just a heads up. I don't know if you haven't seen uh diana russini's tweet or not but

guess who's back there's a card outside your office with a lady and she's gonna give you a shot to just stick your right shoulder out there and while you keep your clicker in your left hand so you don't miss any film yeah we don't want it we don't want there to be any issues with you watching third and longs all right so just just like in jail how you put your hands out of a goddamn thing to get your food we will need you to just stand on the door with the door open you won't even know they're there don't even have to talk to them but if you want to be in this building you're gonna have to do it or you get the fuck out of here i wonder is the booster gonna become mandated for everybody i assume this is the next round of it's go I've done Gumpy, he knows usually Yeah, we're not getting into that

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