The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 593 - Coach Us Up With Chuck Pagano, Bengals Defensive Coordinator Lou Anarumo, Mark Wahlberg, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: February 3, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the Super Bowl, the rumors that Aaron Rodgers bought some raw land in Nashville and if that means he's going to be a Titan, and everything else going on around the league as we prepare for the biggest game of the year. Also joining the show to chat about their breakout success and incredible performances this postseason, and the upcoming Super Bowl matchup with the Rams is the Defensive Coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals, Lou Anarumo (3:20-15:24). Next, Chuck Pagano joins Pat and AJ to chat about all the different coaching situations going around the league and all the different rumors that are circulating this week (42:04-1:12:08). Later, promoting the new film Uncharted, one of the biggest movie stars on the planet, Mark Wahlberg joins the show to chat about the new movie, whether or not his schedule is accurate, putting a golf course in his backyard and how often he plays golf, Entourage, Tom Brady and the future of the Patriots, and much more (1:13:18-1:27:34). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, Thursday, February 3rd, a big blizzard is happening, so we're trying to get out of the office, but we had a chance to chat with some incredible people today. A lot going on. Let's get to it. We hope you're all safe. If you enjoy this show, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Here we go. Breaking news, Jim Harbaugh is not the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings. He is actually returning to be the head coach of the University of Michigan because no NFL team was ever interested in Jim Harbaugh. That's why I don't know if I'm misreading this. We reported yesterday that this dude's going to be the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings because there was numerous people yesterday that said, Jim Harbaugh's going to be the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings.

What we need to know is that this guy has great representation. Oh, yeah. This guy's agents, publicists, lawyers, whoever the fuck they are, letting every insider know that he's getting the job in Las Vegas, maybe. He's getting the job in Minnesota. Then Ian Rappaport comes on this show and he goes, I've never heard that Las Vegas was interested in Jim Harbaugh. And then yesterday it is being reported that Harbaugh walked into that meeting

thinking he was going to get the head coaching gig at the Vikings, and the Vikings did not view that meeting that way at all. Nine hours they met. Who knows if they didn't gel, they didn't like them, or they just chose to go a different direction. That direction being Kevin O'Connell, Rams offensive coordinator, cannot hire him until after the Super Bowl. So congrats to him. But also congrats to this guy for being able to manipulate the media completely whenever, however, whichever way he pleases. We all thought he was at the Raiders. That was a lie.

We all thought he was at the Vikings. That was a lie. He's back in Michigan. Michigan's excited. I assume I would be as well. Maybe college football playoff. Congrats to all parties involved. Congrats, everybody.

What type of bullshit is this guy spinning, though? I can respect it. I can appreciate it. But I don't think anybody in the NFL wanted to take the Harbaugh cruise. I don't think anybody was really excited about it. There was a connection in Minnesota, I guess. I think Harbaugh wanted to get back into the NFL. I think he was sniffing around a bit in the NFL.

But I don't think anybody in the NFL was really taking him any type of serious because they've seen him shirtless, sleepovers with kids, and doing his entire shit. And maybe next year, maybe in the future he'll get back in the NFL, but whenever we start hearing that he's going back in the NFL, we've got to remember it's probably not the NFL saying this. It's probably Harbaugh's people spinning

a web of lies, which we have to remember when we hear all information going forward about not just him, but anybody. The Toxic Table is here, at Ty Schmidt, at Boston Connors here, at Tone Diggs, one half of the hammer. Darn! Cowboys is here.

That's the big breaking news of the day, right? It feels like that is the— Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Okay. If the Vikings weren't interested, why have them in for a nine-hour interview? Well, I think somebody was interested.

So somebody had them in. Gotcha. And then nine hours of dissecting and breaking down and doing that whole thing. And then on the other end of it, everybody is reporting that Harbaugh thought he had that job whenever he flew into Minnesota. And then I wonder how many hours into that he was wondering, like, oh, maybe I don't have this job.

Whatever the case, Kevin O'Connell is to be named the next head coach of the Minnesota Vikings after he completes the Super Bowl with the Los Angeles Rams. Sean McVay makes those play calls. So how will Kevin transition into the play caller and running an entire team? We shall see. Congrats to Kevin. Hey, Kevin.

Never heard of him. Had no idea he existed. But he's going to become a head coach for the Minnesota Vikings. Good on him. Let's pivot, shall we, to a man who will be coaching in the Super Bowl against Kevin O'Connor. The next head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, the current offensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams,

who will be battling wits against the man who is joining us now. Defense coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals, a man who's been coaching football since 1989. Loves the game. I believe, how's your family? Ladies and gentlemen, defense coordinator for the Bengals, Coach Lou Arumo. 1989. Loves the game. I believe, how's your family? Ladies and gentlemen, defense coordinator for the Bengals, Coach Lou Arumo. How's the family?

How we doing, everybody? Are you paisan? 100%. Okay, how's the family? How's the family? How's everything? Italian from Staten Island, so true Italian. Oh, the Gabagool is great, I bet. The Gabagool is great.

Let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals and this team, obviously. I know you're very busy, so we appreciate you joining us. I know you have to drive down to the university, get to the indoor facility today. I understand all of that. Can't wait to see the work. In that second half of the Chiefs game, Coach, yeah, I think you've got to go to your right.

Okay. Let's get in the screen. I appreciate you. My two sons are going to kill me. One's a freshman at West Virginia, so I had to get that in there because I know. Yeah, exactly. So they're

excited, but yeah, we're going to head to practice here in about 20 minutes or so. Well, thank you for making time for us. Shout out to your Paisan kids, by the way. How's the family? Family's good. If they're in Morgantown, they're having a great time. A lot of Italians in Morgantown, by the way.

A lot. New Jersey, New York, a lot of people traveling to Morgantown. Whatever the case, let's talk about what you did last week. And I know you want to look forward and everything like that. But that first half and second half, and I don't know if it was schematic. I don't know if it was at halftime, a little bit of a mindset change. What do you think happened in that second half? Obviously, I think you guys went from zone to man or man to zone or something like that. But what do you think it was as your entire culture to be able to flip that thing on the defensive side of the ball against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs there?

You know, I think it started with that last play of the half, you know, with Eli Apple making that tackle on the goal line that gave us great confidence heading into halftime, you know, because, you know, obviously, you know, I wasn't feeling so great about things, you know, early in the game. And but, you know, we just settled the guys down at halftime. You know, as you mentioned, it really came down to the guys just executing. We tackled better. We went to a little bit more man. We put a spy on him as opposed to rushing four. We dropped eight, as everybody said.

But, you know, at the end of the day, you know how it is. It's the players out there making the plays. And, you know, they did an outstanding job executing in the second half. Whenever you see film, obviously, of Patrick Mahomes and that Chiefs team, I assume it's a bit alarming. Okay, you've got Tyreek Hill, who's like fastest guy on earth. Jamar Chase, by the way, might be able to get him. I've seen him just pull away from people as well.

So I guess practicing against those guys help. But whenever you look at this new style of offense where things are just fucking wide open, if football has changed completely, and it's no different with what you've got going against next week in the Super Bowl. What is the mindset? You just try to get rid of their best players?

You try to take away their best options? Or how do you even go into a week to decide what you're going to do when these teams are just littered with weapons everywhere? It's a great question. I think you tried to, like last week, it all starts with Kelsey and Tyreek Hill. And the first time we played them, we did, you know, held them to 60 yards total.

And, you know, when we weren't as successful in the second half, we did certainly a much better job. But I think you have to go that way. You know, like, as you mentioned, this week with Cooper Cup and Odell and all the things that they have. So you try to make them play left-handed as best you can and, you know, let some of these other guys try to beat you. Have you played against – and I should have done more research, I assume.

I learned you're a Joe Philbin guy, by the way. Do you and Joe Philbin know each other a little bit? We do. We go way back, me and Joe. Me and Joe got a massage together in England. I don't know how close you guys are, but me and Joe. I can't imagine it was a I'm assuming it was a regular massage.

Yeah, it was. It was a full body, me and Joe. And I wasn't massaging him. He wasn't massaging me. We just so happened to be in the area. He's a great guy, but obviously you've been around football a long time. When you see somebody like Joe Burrow just be able to come in, transition,

have the moxie, the confidence that he had in college. It just feels like he has no idea about how big this all is. It feels like your entire team maybe doesn't even know how hard it is to get to the Super Bowl. Am I misreading that or is that just the confidence of the entire crew? I think you're on. I just think that, you know, these guys, you look at Joe and Jamar and T. Higgins and some of these guys that are coming from LSU and Clemson and Alabama. All they do is play big games their whole careers. So for them and you and I know that this is a whole different set of issues. But but they haven't lost that confidence that they played with in those high level games in college.

And it's really carried over to what they're doing now so i mean joe is just amazing just his confidence that he plays with and how he sees the field and gets rid of the ball and uh man is as accurate as uh i've been around really whatever you you know see the entire leap that the entire team has taken i mean zach taylor was like 4 and 20 or so i forget what his record was he was 4 4-20. The whole world seemed like it was maybe crashing down. In the AFC North, the Browns were making a climb. Lamar Jackson's

up for another contract. The Pittsburgh Steelers are the Pittsburgh Steelers. They got Mike Tomlin coaching them. Who knows what that whole thing. Could you guys have expected this? Was this expectations going into the year? Who sets that? The coaches? The players? Who really decides like, hey, we can go and do whatever we want to do? And why do you think there was such a belief with all the shit

that has potentially happened in the last couple years? So I think it all started back in the spring when we did a great job, the organization did a great job of signing these free agents. And part of the thing was, you know, we wanted to obviously get good players in the draft, get good players in free agency. But we also put a note on, hey, let's let's let's try to get these good players from winning teams. So Trey Hendrickson, Vaughn Bell, the guys that have been to playoffs, they're used to winning, you know, and then in the draft, the same thing. Hey, it's it's talent. It's what you think the player is first. But let's get some captains. Let's let's get guys that have leadership roles. And to me, that's how you change a place.

You bring in guys that are used to winning, used to doing things the right way, and that'll bring the other guys along. And then you had Burrow and Chase and what those guys have done forever. You add that to the mix, and we had a good feeling all along. It's just been really special here as of late, for sure. You know, you guys are becoming like the hope for teams like the Detroit Lions and other teams that maybe have like four wins and then they're able to flip it from what it sounds like is you guys hit home runs on most of the guys you brought in there. Let's talk about Trey Hendrickson. What a, Hey, what a monster this

dude is. No gloves, throwback, old school, high motor. He's hurt. They're talking about the defensive line being beat up whenever you guys go in to take on Derrick Henry and the boys. Talk about Trey Hendrickson, what he has meant to the team in that D-line. Well, it's funny you say about the no gloves because I think it was Chido Bay Awuzie that said, Trey, man, you're out there with no gloves on. What's going on?

You know, he's got his fingers taped, old school. That's just his mentality. He's got, as soon as he steps on across that white line, you know, he's got his fingers taped, old school. That's just his mentality. He's got – as soon as he steps on across that white line, you know, he's what you want. He's looking to do one thing, and that's get to the quarterback on pass downs and disrupt the run game on early downs. You know, he's a quiet, composed guy off the field, but when the whistle blows, you know, you don't want to be on that guy's bad side.

So he's brought a great mentality to the group. And all those guys guys up front sam hubbard dj reader's been a man inside um you know so it all starts with stopping the run uh but at the end of the day we also got guys that can get after the quarterback and covering the back end too uh before the boys have a couple questions for you my last one here evan mcpherson have you ever seen somebody so kind that confidence he has is so amazing. And I just saw you smile there. This rookie kicker, and you've been around a long time, young rookie kicker, he just steps up and makes kicks.

It's unbelievable. Did you guys know that in practice? Is there any shit-talk in practice from the boys in training camp that maybe made you realize, okay, we got a guy here? You can just tell by the way the guy carries himself. I know he was on the show, I think, a week or two back, whatever it was, but he just carries himself that way. Like, hey, listen, man, this thing's going through the uprights,

you know, whatever I got to do. And so, you know, we would give him some stuff in training camp and just to test him out as a rookie. But he just brushed it right off, and you knew, listen, we all know how this goes, right? Guys can make kicks. Guys can make throws, but when the bright lights are on and the bright lights of the playoffs and the NFL,

that's a whole different total animal, and this guy has just been unbelievably clutch for us. A couple 50-yarders in overtime, a couple 50. I mean, it's unbelievable. It's like back in Staten Island, just, you know, making a hoop outside in the school yard like I used to do back in the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Of course, of course you used to do that. You have to take on Sean McVay and his offense. And Sean McVay is how, allegedly, how Zach Taylor even got a sniff because they knew each other. Is that type of commonality with your head coach and what you have to go against in practice obviously a massive advantage going in against the Rams? And do you see it that way, or do they do things differently

than what Zach does on a daily basis? I mean, there's a lot of carryover, you know, and having Zach and them spend so much time together, it helps. But, you know, at the end of the day, Sean's gotten – they haven't been together now for three years, and everybody evolves in what they're doing. So while there is some stuff that we can use, I think, to our advantage, at the end of the day, you know, Sean does an unbelievable job,

and he keeps you off balance with formations and putting guys different places. So we'll have our hands full. Go ahead, Tom. Coach, you talk about bringing in free agents from winning organizations. One of those guys that I sorely miss who had a huge interception against Titans is Mike Hilton. How do you resist bringing him off the edge every single play?

Because I think he's probably the best blitzing corner I've ever seen. No, he reminds me when he doesn't, when I don't call it, trust me. But no, Mike's, Mike's an unselfish guy. One of the best fields for the position in the league, you know, and that goes back to like when you're, when you're not blitz and he's setting the quarterback up, they're so worried about him that he can bluff. And I don't even have to tell him.

He just doesn't naturally knows when to do it, when knows not to do it. But just super, super, at the end of the day, you look at him and you say, this guy's the best nickel in the league, and he is. He's tough. He'll tackle. He likes being in the run fits. I mean, what corner likes being in run fits, you know? So, you know, Mike is all those things, and he is he has meant the world to us on defense.

Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, coach. Pat mentioned talking shit to McPherson. But does that happen with Joe Burrow during practice when you guys are trying to get each other going? You know, you know, not really. I mean, you know, during the season, we're not going against them very often. You know, certainly in training camp and in otas you know if uh if a guy will pick a ball off or you know that's just normal football stuff but this time of the year i basically threaten any d lineman it gets close to him we want to keep him we want

to keep him upright i'd assume that's the case a coach we can't thank you enough for your time here in the middle of your busy preparation good Good luck in the bubble over there at the University of Cincinnati and safe travels over to LA. We're all pulling for you. I appreciate it and thanks for having me, guys. I really appreciate it. Hey, Coach Lou Anarumo, you're welcome here anytime. How's the gabagool? It's just great.

Ladies and gentlemen, defensive coordinator for the Bengals, Coach Lou. Thank you. That's awesome. Hey, guess who did the booking? Boston Conner. Here we go. Score one for the team. Boston Conner, reach out his hand.

How's the guy? Hey, he sent me a text. He goes, hey, defense coordinator of the Bengals, I think I have a connection to. Would we want him on the show? Absolutely. And then he goes, I think he's... And then he sends me the emoji.

He gets point across. I just have four of them. Spot on. Yeah, you did. And by the way, he is. 100%. He is 100%. That team, man. They are... Him talking about how they shape the culture. Let's bring some captains in here. Let's get some people that know how to win.

Let's go ahead and really make this culture very important. And that culture is the biggest X factor in any game. It doesn't get talked about enough. Like the Los Angeles Rams, obviously a lot of glitz, a lot of glamour. People talk about that culture as well over there, that it's like a Pro Bowl every single day, and they've come together. And obviously they're in Super Bowl, so they're a tight-knit group because they've had a lot to celebrate.

So it's easier to become friends with everybody whenever you're winning and everything like that but this bangles team coming out of nowhere there is something about a team of destiny type feel yeah and they're only on the rise it feels like and coach lou i don't know i haven't heard his name for any job anywhere for anything i don't think i've ever even heard that guy's name before no and he loves being there it feels like obviously how could you not be you're going to the super bowl but they're just only getting started it feels i think there really is something to you know you've been talking about that like they just don't know what they don't know and you even look at like the defense the narrative kind of every single week in the playoffs has

been like yeah you know like bangles are good their offense is good joe burrow's good but this defense isn't going to be able to hold up they're banged up like their front seven isn't that good and they just continue to win and that kind of has been said every week up to this point. But I think these guys now, it's like, hey, we're in the Super Bowl. We are good enough to win this game. And I really think, like, they do believe that they're the better team, I think. And also, this is the new norm. Yeah.

Like, remember after we – I watched this on the Kevin James, Sean Payton documentary. Oh, great doc. I seen the exact shot that I seen walking into the locker room. I mean, it was a little PTSD. You know, not like actual PTSD to the people. Shout out to everybody that actually goes through real PTSD. But for me, it was the last image before walking into the most miserable room I've ever been in my entire life,

which is Drew Brees and his dumb baby after winning that Super Bowl up on a thing with the confetti falling. And that's how they let off, basically, the Kevin James, Sean Payton documentary on Netflix. So I did have a little PTSD last night, but also when I walked in there, I looked, not bad, by the way. Not bad, huh?

Not bad. It was pretty good. Not bad. No, I did. It was a nice deep dive into Sean Payton's life. What'd you say? I don't know what these two are. No, I did. It was a nice deep dive into Sean Payton's life. What'd you say? I don't know what these two are talking about. What did Connor say? He said he got about ten minutes in, couldn't finish it.

That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. It's a Happy Madison production, so it's not a steaming pile of shit. Well, no, I agree. That's what Connor said. I didn't say that.

A lot of good jokes. There's a lot of good jokes. There's actually pretty dialed-in jokes, too, like good callbacks, subtle callbacks and stuff in there. I thought it was pretty high-IQ writing, by the way. There was some stuff that was like, ah. A lot of hotel humor. Was Shaq in it?

Let's get out of here. A lot of hotel humor with the check-in. Oh, my God. I've been there. They missed a couple. I think that they should have added in there. There was a lot of good little moments, though, where there was some great dry humor.

Bill Cowher makes an appearance. What? Coach Cowher? I will say Coach Cowher, a man that I love and adore. One of the worst actors I've ever seen. Oh, no. Coach. Cowher?

What football guy is a good actor? Well, it was football. Sean Payne. Scenes. Sean Payne. He's a great actor. Whoa, whoa, whoa. We don't know about that. It might have been him. I don't know. They said maybe it was him. Cow sean payne we don't know about that it might have

been him i don't know they said maybe it was car only knows how to be himself well if this is i mean the way he was holding his phone this is how bill carter was holding his phone yeah he was actually in waterboy as well well he which by the way bill carter fits in perfect in that happy madison thing but he had super bowl ring on his, and he was talking like this, and he was on a... I don't want to give too much away, but Bill Carr's not supposed to be an actor. Bill Carr is Bill Carr. He has to do that because the one time

he absolutely fucking leveled Coach... What's his name? On special teams. He separated his shoulders, so now he always has to hold it. Whatever the case, they should have had him on speaker, I think. It would have been more natural like this,

but Bill Carr kills it. He's Bill it. Whatever the case, they should have had him on speaker, I think. It would have been more natural like this, but Bill Carr kills it. He's Bill Carr. Uh-huh. Whatever. Not bad. I don't think it was bad. It's Bill Carr's end. I'll check it out.

But it did remind me, there's a lot of appearances. Really? Just pop-ins out of nowhere. Yeah, it's pretty good. Honestly, not as terrible as I would have thought. Yeah, exactly. Going in, oh, this is going to stink.

Okay. So I think that is where I was at. This is for kids, I thought. Yeah, exactly. Going in, oh, this is going to stink. Okay. So I think that is where I was at. This is for kids, I thought. Definitely is. But also not bad. Not bad. Are you surprised by how Sean Payton kind of let them depict him as, like, top five worst dad of all time?

I mean, there were some situations that it appears Sean Payton wasn't necessarily the greatest dad. But any time anybody goes into the Hall of Fame, you know what they say? Say, thanks to my wife and my kids, I miss a lot. I am so sorry. That was depicted in the movie. But it was a good coming-of-age tale there. I don't want to give away any spoilers.

It's good. It's a good movie. Check it out. Good movie. Check it out. Anyways, they reminded me of the moment which I was a rookie and we just lost the Super Bowl to Drew Brees and his dumb baby. And I learned a lot about Drew Brees' movie last night, too. Sean Payton had a lot of, you know what Drew Brees lost the Super Bowl to Drew Brees and his dumb baby. And I learned a lot about Drew Brees last night too. Sean Payton had a lot of, you know what Drew Brees

does, you know what Drew Brees does, you know what Drew Brees does. So I learned a lot about Drew Brees through last night's eyes. He was talking to these 9-year-olds, 10-year-olds, whatever they were, the Warriors football team. Anyways, I remembered walking into that locker room and I had the feeling when I was a rookie after we lost the Super Bowl, I was like, oh boys, we'll be

back next year. What are we even talking about? We won't undefeated until we chose to lose. Team's all here. We're going to be good. And basically everybody was like, shut the fuck up. That ain't how this works. Unless you're the New England Patriots, this is not how it goes. So that feeling of, like, even in the Super Bowl, being like, yeah,

this is where we're supposed to be here. Oh, I'm going to be here 100 times. Like, this is no good. First year, I'm in the Super Bowl, no big deal., this is where we're supposed to be here. Oh, I'm going to be here 100 times. This is no good. First year, I'm in the Super Bowl, no big deal. I read the coattails of everybody else. This is just what we're going to do. Hey, say hello to your new life, Pat. You're in the NFL and you're in the Super Bowl.

That is how I genuinely felt. And not that Joe Burrow is a rookie, but kind of, because he missed a lot of his first year. That feeling of this is where we're supposed to be, this is how we're supposed to go, is a weapon. I think that is a weapon feeling not knowing what you don't know is such a such a good thing to have that's why they say ignorance is bliss but i don't think it's ignorance i think this team's just got the confidence and the moxie we beat some great fucking teams we just beat patrick mahomes and the chiefs they should feel very good and the afc north should be worried uh-huh you think coach louis arumas worried about anybody else in the AFC North?

Not a chance. Not a chance. All I know is that organization has fucked up number one overall picks before. They'll do it again. No, this is a different time. Zach Taylor, Coach Lou Anarumo, and running the scouting department, I mean, they're having the right ideas, the right conversations. Listen, we don't just necessarily need good players.

We need, actually, culture in here. Let's attack and try to get captains of teams. Like, that's a mindset. Like, hey, we understand we've got to build from within. Not everybody does that. I don't think the Bengals have always done that in the past. Hopefully, they'll be able to get a goddamn indoor practice facility. Please.

The AFC champion in the modern world of $110 billion deals happening in the NFL has to hop in a bus in full pads and drive to the university in their city to go use their indoor. By the way, their indoor facility, the university in their city, not a power five school. No, it's not even a power five school. That was a big conversation. This isn't a power five school. This isn't a power five school. Nope. It's not even a Power 5 school. That was a big conversation. This isn't a Power 5 school. This isn't a Power 5 school. They're great. I love Luke Trickle.

I love the Bearcats. But a school within the city who is not a Power 5 school, who probably profits at $0 is what they report, they have an indoor facility with another one on the way. And the AFC championship team that is going to the Super Bowl, representing has to go and use their indoor practice. Excuse me, I know you guys might have like, I don't know, you guys got field

hockey practice or something today. We're wondering if the Cincinnati fucking Bengals could use this. What a fucking childish thing. That is unbelievable. Coach Lou, did it not sound like we're fans of Coach Lou? Huge fans of Coach Lou. Does it ever sound like we're fans of Coach Lou? Yeah. Huge fans of Coach Lou. Does it ever sound like we're not big fans of fucking Joey Burrow and Jamar?

Big fans of that entire team. Love the coaching staff. Colt Anderson, my former personal protector. Shout out. He was quoted in the athletic. Shout out. I haven't read the entire story, but I believe a lot of my former teammates were quoted in there and coaches. Thank you to everybody that took time out of your day to talk about me.

I did not know that thing was happening, so that was a surprise to me as it was to everybody else. But I appreciate everybody. Colt Anderson, he's a coach over there. Fucking love that guy. But they can't be hopping on a bus a week before the Super Bowl and driving down to a university and using their indoor facility. Get the team a goddamn indoor practice facility. What are we even doing? Oh, there's 18 inches of snow coming.

You know who does have to deal with that? Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford. They don't have to do anything. Well, they get to live in L.A. Their weather's different. Well, that's why you build a fucking indoor facility. So it's 70 and sunny every single day. Let's get to it.

What are we even waiting for? Maybe with this new money and new spotlight coming to the Bengles because of the super bowl presence and winning is a good thing they'll event they'll build one but god damn this is an embarrassment i think yeah it doesn't seem like that's gonna happen until ownership kind of changes hands either right i mean it's not like i mean if they if they get to the super bowl like i don't think they're gonna be breaking ground on a indoor facility next year or after that. Man, I just – Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, and the boys, you know, the next dynasty. Then you look at Derrick Henry, Tennessee Titans.

You look at the Raiders. You look at everybody else in the AFC North. Everybody in the AFC just go through the entire Mac Jones and them. Oh, yeah. Pro bowler. I mean, every quarterback is a pro bowler because people opt out, and it's normally like the 17th, 18th quarterback that plays in a pro bowl. And a pro bowl stinks, but I can't wait to watch it.

Congrats to Mac Jones. Rookie. Making the pro bowl and that entire thing. Everybody in the AFC lost to a team with no indoor practice facility. That's right. It's kind of messed up. And now they'll attribute yeah they'll attribute their success to well the way we did it when it was cold out we still went outside yeah everybody does that

everybody fucking practices outside whenever it's cold like vinatarian i talked about it we we practice outside all the time but it is nice to be able to get extra work and maybe flip the lights on so you don't have to go down to University of Cincinnati and say, hey, excuse me, can you get the soccer team to use maybe just half the field because I've got to get some extra reps in here because I'm thinking about something and there's no way to turn the lights

on underneath the bridge of the practice facility that we're actually... I mean, it's just unbelievable that in 2022 there's a conversation, but let's not hone in on the negatives. Let's talk about the positives. A team with no indoor practice facility fighting against their own ownership is in the Super Bowl. How about that? How about that?

Live from Manatee, Ohio, a Super Bowl champion, a college football national champion, a Ryder Cup champion, and COVID survivor, Aaron Rodgers' best friend, A.J. Ha. A.J., how you doing, dude? Oh, good. How you doing?

Excited about Mark Wahlberg. That's awesome. Super pumped. Hey, super pumped. We got a lot of questions. Obviously, Uncharted's going to be unbelievable. Oh, yeah. No question. No question. He only makes hits, doesn't he? Yeah, bangers only for Mark Wahlberg.

That is a factual statement. But also, I mean, you and me, we grew up playing that game. Oh, yeah. It was so much fun, that video game. The best. Every day. statement but also I mean you and me we grew up playing that game oh yeah so much video game best every day dude we'd be like where's the PlayStation all right let's get uncharted we go on these you know trips around and finding clues oh yeah sick my gunfire oh my god so I mean it was that's what me and AJ did that's why we made it to the NFL so can't wait to actually thank Mark Wahlberg for bringing back what made me

and A.J. Hawk successful in the sport of football. A.J., we all know that you're down there at the Kentucky Derby with Aaron Rodgers. Okay? We all know that you're out there at birthday shenanigans with Aaron Rodgers. We all know that every Tuesday on this show you're shenanigans with Aaron Rodgers. We all know that every Tuesday on this show, you're making inside jokes with Aaron Rodgers. So when Aaron Rodgers, okay, buys something down in Nashville,

and he's down in Nashville, and the entire world goes, holy shit, is Aaron Rodgers going to the Titans? I think there's only one person to ask about it all. A.J. Hawk, what the hell's going on? Is he moving to Tennessee? Why is he buying stuff down there? What is going on with Aaron Rodgers, A.J. Hawk?

So what is the story? What came out that I missed? Oh, so he's trying to figure out what all he's allowed to say. No, what happened in Nashville, believe it or not, guys, multiple snow days in a row, wife out of town. I've been plowing on my John Deere all morning trying to keep kids alive. There's a lot of ice out here. We'll let you know what the world already knows so you're not given

any more information because why would you want to do that? He's going to... Wait, so they say he just bought a property in Nashville. That was reported, yes. When did he purchase this property? The thing is... The timing, I think think matters here, guys.

Why is it I'm asking you? Why did he break this news? Did he just buy it now or did he buy this, you know, I don't know, months ago? Wow, you tell us. I don't know. Yeah, you do. Yeah, when was it? I'm saying check the date.

Check the date if you think he just bought it. Does it matter? Okay, so yeah, does any of this matter? Why do you think he bought the property in Nashville? Did you ever talk about that? Is it because he wants to go? He has a billion dollars and he wants to live in multiple locations. He's a billionaire? Okay, so what we're saying is this means nothing

in your eyes? Just the fact that he... There's other people that live in Nashville that are professional athletes. There's nice areas in Nashville all over the place. So if Aaron has raw land in Nashville without a house on it, how does that mean he's going to the titans now he is close with braves he loves the head coach in brable the titans are in the afc so all of that matches up okay so just quick follow-up raw land is the property

because i did believe i do believe it was pitches like a house maybe yeah it was assumed to be a house what do you mean by raw land i don't did. Did he buy a house? No, it did just say property, but I think everybody assumed that it was a house was also there. I honestly don't know. There might be. Okay. He said raw land. Sounds like he bought some raw land. He bought some raw land. Okay.

Well, we appreciate that. That is becoming a story though, as is everything that happens with your best friend. And you're saying there's no reason for us to look into that any deeper or anybody else to wonder or speculate on it oh no you could you should you should jump into it yeah i'm not doing that i'm just saying people you don't think that that house is necessarily a property is raw land whatever that thank you you don't think that raw land is any indication of what his football career is going to be. If Aaron has any land down in Nashville, I don't think he got the land with any intention of thinking about football.

It has nothing to do with football, I believe, if it has anything to do with football. Please put that on the ticket. Thank you. So is he building an immunized center then? That doesn't mean it can't, though. That doesn't mean all of a sudden, say he goes down there, he's like, oh, this is cool. I like Nashville.

A lot of music. Hey, Braves, why don't you call the PAC? Work out a trade for me. That could happen. Oh! So hold on. Put that on the ticker as well. Although it is raw land, whatever that means.

But then actually, I think he might retire too. So put that on the ticker as well. Oh! Shit! What do you know? You don't know anything except for a little bit, and we got to kind of piece together about what you do. I don't even know a little bit.

No, I don't know. No, you do. You just said. He bought raw land. He bought raw land. I don't jump at dumb stories where people think like they put him in locations instantly. Like, oh, here it is. This is happening.

Well, I will just say this. I will say this. Nashville, you should know. If you see him around town, there is a chance, via his best friend, that you could win him over and him be like, hey, I'll come. Maybe you guys should have a parade for him right now. You know what I mean? Maybe you should have a parade like down Broadway for him.

Make him feel. Get him in there and tootsies. Get him a guitar. Get him playing a little bit. Yeah, he plays guitar as well. That's another tie to Nashville. Oh, man, this is looking like Nashville is the spot. What if we see –

I didn't know this coming into the show, but yeah, we're putting him there. Well, we're not. Everybody else is, but it sounds like we're helping. Maybe we should. We are. We got a hammer to the nail. It sounds like – What about Ryan Tannehill?

Those people would not do that to Ryan Tannehill, first and foremost. And secondly, we're talking like that. No, no. They wouldn't. They wouldn't. They love Tannehill. to Ryan Tannehill, first and foremost. And secondly, we're talking – Like that. No, no. Like that. They wouldn't. They love Tannehill. They love Tannehill. They wouldn't do that.

They wouldn't do that. He's born in Milwaukee. Just real quick, I would like – who? Tannehill? I don't know. I made that up. Oh, God. This program.

This program. It's raw land. He's not planning on doing anything with that. I will say – All he is, he wants to watch his corn pop up in rows. He does. Knee high by the 4th of July. Aaron Rodgers understands that. Aaron Rodgers understands that. I will say. Oh, yeah, he is. He wants to watch his corn pop up in rows. Oh, yeah, he does. Knee high by the 4th of July. Aaron Rodgers understands that.

Oh, my God. What if he takes the track? Another round. Another round. Another round. You think he bought a farm? You said raw land. What does that mean?

We don't know what that means. That could be a half an acre. That could be five million acres. Doesn't need a greenhouse. That's what you're saying to us. That's why I'm very confused. I'm saying there's a big range. I don't know. I don't have details. You don't know what that means. That could be a half an acre. That could be five million acres. Doesn't need a greenhouse. That's what you're saying to us. That's why I'm very confused. I'm saying there's a big range. I don't know. I don't have details. You don't know? No. A lot of

raw land on farms. We know from AJ he has a greenhouse and you don't need a greenhouse. Down in Nashville, the whole thing's a greenhouse. Yeah, it gets cold. There's snow in there. Yeah, it does get cold. I think it's pretty chilly. The growing season's 12 months down there. I guess. Could be. You never know. With a greenhouse it does get cold. I think it's pretty chilly. I don't think the growing season is 12 months down there. I guess. Could be.

You never know. With the greenhouse it is, though. Well, if Rogers moves down there, that place will be hot. It was. Well, Nashville has been building for a while. They got a lot of cranes down there for like the last 10, 15 years. Yeah, true. It's been blowing up.

You know, they have been in the playoffs for multiple years in a row. They got Derrick Henry in the backfield. AJ Brown and Julio Jones, who he has talked about before. In the AFC South, not great. Right now, aside from the Colts. Wow. They're not a playoff team. Yeah.

Who cares? Why'd you guys just well at the same time like that? Because I don't think he's looking at the map of the NFL and saying, oh, shit, I can't go to Tennessee. The Colts are Carson Wentz's. I can't do that. He might be. When did he buy the property? I don't know.

You do. I think it's safe to say he didn't buy it yesterday or five days ago. That's a start. Maybe he bought it whenever he was first starting to think of where he wanted to go. He was in Hawaii jumping off waterfalls, and he was like, give me some property in Nashville. I heard it's awesome while they were singing Taylor Swift's song. Oh, my God, because Taylor Swift is down there.

She's Nashville. Oh, you're right. Oh, is this all a plan? Has this been a plan all along? What does Vrabel know? What does this son of a bitch know, Vrabel? As long as he's breaking ground in deer equipment on that raw land, I mean, if he wants to go move to Nashville, that's fine.

He ain't playing for the fucking Titans. What? The Titans. Did the Titans have a Super Bowl? I don't think so. They got to win the Super Bowl. That was the one they got beat. Right.

Michael was talking about the Rams. Yeah. Jones. Not a win. So they've never won a Super Bowl. What about as the Oilers? Did they win one? I don't know.

Maybe. Maybe. The Steelers. Right. Oilers Oilers? Did they win one? No. Oilers and Steelers used to have some epic clashes, right? I just remember that from when I was a little, little kid. I don't think they have. They were in the same division. I mean, that would make sense if you're a guy who, you know, you go to a place that's never won before.

The Oilers had never even appeared in a Super Bowl. The Colts have won. Sorry. Packers have never even appeared in the Super Bowl. The Colts have won. Sorry. Packers have as well. So it's Tennessee. Oh my God. Did it all just come together? I was coming into this show expecting us to be like,

I thought AJ was going to say some things. I didn't know we were jumping to this instant speculation still with Aaron right now at this point in the year. What the fuck? Where have you been? Where have you been? I didn't know we were jumping to this instant speculation still with Aaron right now at this point in the year. I mean, what the fuck? Where have you been? I mean, out there in Rogers, dude. What do you mean?

This happened, what, last night? Yeah, the guy broke news. He was actually sitting in his house. He looked like he was on a podcast of some sort, but they had a ticker. It was pretty well produced. And what did he say? I don't know.

Can we get the clip? Let's just get the actual clip. I think we can find it over here. I know he's just a normal guy to you because you guys are buds, but it's Aaron Rodgers, so it's news, AJ. Yeah, and he's on the move, allegedly. No, I'm saying sometimes, like, I consume stuff, like, in bunches. Like, here, okay, boom.

I can consume a lot of content. I can see stuff. And then it might be another day before I get to do that again. Oh, so you're like, okay, give me all the Chuck Berry stuff. Boom. And then you're like, all right, I'm going to go plow the land. Then you go outside. Then you come back.

You're like, boom, Jeff Zucker did what? Bang. This entire thing. Who's that? Oh, yeah, you know. Your favorite anchor. Yeah, I got it before you, pal. How about that?

I got it before you. Steve Rabbit is. Can we run this real quick? Can we run this? Can we call Chuck back? Ask if we can call Chuck back. Chuck, we got to figure... Chuck will actually have a good take on this, I believe. We should run this so that AJ... That tweet actually

is better than I thought. It says Titans emerged as a potential suitor. That's much better than, like, I thought it said, oh, zeroing in on the Titans. That's fine. No, that's Florio's response. Everybody's a potential suitor right now. Okay. Not a Patriot. Put that down on the ticker.

A.J. Hawks. But also at the same time, nobody is because he loves the Packers. Okay. So I'll put that on the ticker, I guess, from A.J. Go ahead and run this. Who is this? 1-0-2-5.

Multiple sources. Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers is building a home in Franklin. Ooh. The second thing. A source tells me Rodgers would be, quote, open to joining the Titans. That's all I was told. Open to joining the Titans. And they talked to another source in which at least some of Rodgers' current Green Bay Packer teammates think there is no way Rodgers is going back to Green Bay.

Ooh. Oh. According to multiple sources. TriStar Moving, Stillman Company, 102.5, the game in Nashville. That is a lot of news there, AJ. As best friend of Aaron Rodgers, your take on old cuzzy there

who's given us a lot of goods. Yeah. That guy's given the sports world a lot of goods, a lot of sources, a lot of inside information. The first two things, hey, the first two things, he's not lying, right? Or he there who's given us a lot of goods. Yeah. That guy's given the sports world a lot of goods, a lot of sources, a lot of inside information. Hey, the first two things, he's not lying, right? Or he might not be lying. He said he's building a, first off, he contradicted himself when it says he purchased a home. It said at the bottom.

And then he says he's building a home. The guy says, okay, that's two different things right there. And then he said he would be open, air quotes, open to joining the Titans. Yep. Just like he'd be open to every other team in the NFL, I believe. So I guess the fact that they do tie him there, I don't know. And then his last one with another source. Yeah, of course.

You have 90 teammates. You can talk to one dude. Hey, you think Aaron will come back? No chance, man. Boom, you run with him. Okay, thank you for putting all those to bed. And I think the difference between buying a home and building a home. There's definitely not zero chance that Aaron goes back to Green Bay, though.

We all know that. Okay, so let's debunk that a little bit. One source was debunked out of 1-0-2-5, the game in Nashville. So let's go back to the building and buying a home. Building a home takes time, is what you're saying. That'll take a lot of time. Buying a home is like... Is there a home there,

or is he planning on building a home? That's a different thing, isn't it? Because if he plans on building a home, it's not going to be ready if he wants to go to the Titans this year. You said Rutland. Yeah, not if the extreme home makeover people are building it. Well, the guy also said he's building a home. What's the report? The report, the guy, which we should get his name.

We're talking about him a lot right now. 1-0-2-5, the games. He's not lying. I don't have a problem with his report. What he's saying is fine. Okay, but he said building a home in Franklin. Franklin, Tennessee is where all the Ups live. That's where all the Ups live down there? It's definitely a nice area, yeah.

Like that's where all the big time stars live down in Franklin? Kid Rock's house I think is outside of Franklin, but it's near there. Okay, so Kid Rock lives down there obviously. Foxy, when Foxy and I when that guy's name is Jared Stillman. Shout out Jared. Foxy and I

flew into Nashville. It was we saw the biggest houses we've ever seen flying into a place yeah compounds boom bang bang there was a bunch of them too it wasn't just like a few normally when you fly in you see like a few houses and then everything kind of dissipates down that place there was just monster home all had massive plots of land raw land raw land Raw land. Raw land. Is that Franklin we probably saw? And is that just a place where a lot of wealthy like to live? Franklin's definitely an area where I've heard I know a lot of former athletes live or current athletes have places there.

There's a couple different areas that I keep hearing about in Nashville where they have those giant houses. So that's where a lot of people like to retire and have houses. Yeah, it must be like if Aaron has any land or a house down there, I'm sure it's in one of those nice areas. So there's a lot to be had here. I have some other former teammates that have places there too.

Don't you think that could be part of it? So maybe Aaron just had some former friends or teammates that had houses there. He has a shit ton of money. He's visited them before. It was like, you know what? I'll fucking buy a place down there.

Just saying. I looked up raw land in Franklin. It is very nice. Yeah, very nice. Very nice. Right. He's got good raw land. 56 acres right here.

It is nice. Aaron and Cutler are going to be best friends. Do you think Aaron had, yeah, shout out to Cut has that show down there. Yeah. Yeah, he does that show. I know him more. He doesn't do a show anymore? Very Cavalier? No, it's done. No, that other show. I don't do bullshit shows. I'm talking about, well, all the shows are

bullshit shows, including this one. He had a podcast down there, didn't he, Dunham? Yeah, making the cut or something. That's not what I'm talking about. Whatever the case. Do you think he has any idea what he's doing football-wise at this moment, and does the house property there, any difference to that? Do any you think he has any idea what he's doing football wise at this moment and does the house property there any difference to that to any other places he has houses in LA Malibu

Justin Herbert is he on the move is that what you're thinking though it's like hey this guy's got places in some places we can't look into every single one of them like this no he has a ton of money he may not even visit the place. He may have got a text from somebody he trusts.

Hey, man, sweet place up here. You want a lot by me? Cool, here, man. Where's my wiring instructions? Bobby Carpenter. Not only bought, Zito did the same thing. Zito didn't even see the house he bought. He just said, just tell me where to send a check.

He moved in, turned out there's a lot more checks to come. Oh, yeah. Because everything in the photos wasn't exactly how it appeared to be in real life. But that's big-time stuff. All right, so we can put that to bed. Aaron Rodgers not necessarily going to the Titans. He just likes to – Or he could.

Don't be an asshole. Come on. I'm not saying he's not. I'm just saying, like, everything is not a giant story. But, yeah, it's not impossible for him to go to Tennessee. All right, joining us now, a host of the Coach Us Up segment every single week. I would assume he has some thoughts on everything happening in our conversation right now.

I have no idea where he is. This dude has plots of raw land all over the place. Last week, it was Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. Where will he be today? Who knows? Ladies and gentlemen, Chuck Pagano. Back in Idaho.

Hey, can we get a quick one? Which one? A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. I thought we were going to do Gabagool because of Coach Luke.

I love when A.J. stirs A.J. Hawk! I thought we were going to do a gob of gold because of Coach Luke. I love when A.J. stirs it up. Oh, that's great. Wait until Aaron is seen going through a hangar. Probably not going to fly commercial. Doesn't have to fly commercial, right? But he's seen in a hangar getting into a car service and heading up to Boulder to see his girlfriend. Oh! Smoking a big doobie. you know, a car service, you know, and heading up to Boulder, you know, to see his girlfriend. Oh. Yeah.

Smoking a big doobie. Smoking a doobie. Wait until that comes out and they start putting that, you know, oh, shoot, we saw Aaron, you know, at the airport, DIA. I wonder what's up with that. Oh, so everything he does is going to be calculated. Is there any teams you think that would say no to Aaron Rodgers right now? Other than obviously Joey Burrow, Patrick Mahomes.

Bills. Bills. Rams. Patriots. Probably with Mac. Rams. Chargers. Other than the obvious, is there any team you think that is not going to try

to get into the Aaron Rodgers game? No, I think they'd be foolish not to if there was some interest there and you have a chance. I think you've got to turn every stone, so to speak. Again, you mentioned the guys that have young quarterbacks, up-and-coming quarterbacks. There's a bunch of them in the league, but there's also a bunch of teams that stink because they don't have one. If you get a chance, a shot at a guy like Aaron Rodgers. Denver, like you said, I didn't think there was any way, but, you know, ending the way that thing ended. And then you look at Denver's history with Peyton, bringing Peyton in there, winning the Super Bowl with him.

This just makes, you know, too much sense with Hackett going there and, you know, hiring all the Green Bay, you know, guys to come on that staff on the offensive side. But no, if I'm at any place and we've got just a guy and we've got everything else and we've got something to sell, Aaron Rodgers, as far as our team goes, we've got a defense, we've got specialists, we've got a kicking game, we've got this got we're missing one piece we we might be two piece away you and we're going to go get this other dude might be you know your your buddy Devante oh maybe maybe Devante maybe we bring in Devante a guy you have pretty good rapport with we already got your offense coordinator here we're gonna have offense line coach I think maybe another another one you'll just be like Green Bay West over here in the beautiful city of

Denver in which the rules are awesome the weather is fantastic and you're going to enjoy the hell out of it there's a lot of places that can make pitches to him i'm excited to see it unfold i always thought that every coach would want an elite quarterback it just seems like that's how the nfl goes i'm happy to hear that from you let's talk about some of the things circulating in the coaching business obviously the hiring processes are going to be under full examination it took you like 30 years to get your first head coaching opportunity with the nfl the thing that i think is going to be also a big deal even if you are somebody that thinks you know that you don't know enough about the hiring process you don't know that whole thing as soon as you hear that owners are paying coaches to lose and then you got hugh jackson coming out

and saying that there was a four-year plan. The first two years we were going to stink and then we were going to go all in. I wasn't going to be able to really win the first couple of years. That was a plan that I get fired before we can even get going. So he's implying that Jimmy Haslam

also wanted him to lose and paid him to lose in there alongside the Stephen Ross 100,000 thing. Have you ever heard anything like that? Or have you ever been in any situations where it felt as if maybe the ownership or front office was working against you a little bit, even though you were trying to do your absolute fucking best to win a ballgame? Never.

Never. I think you could ask, you know, 100 coaches, and 100 out of 100 would say, you know, never to the degree would B-Flow, you know, as stated, you know, in his class action suit, you know, that he's filed. You know, that, you know, the owner came out and offered him, you know, $100,000 per game that he would lose and not work as hard and get on a jet and fly somewhere and go take a vacation. I mean, there's a lot of times that, you know, I would have signed up for that, you know, adversity, but no, I've never heard of that. And, you know, again, you mentioned, you know, 28 years I was coaching as an assistant and then got a lucky break and got the Indy job. But in my entire career as an assistant coach in the National Football League and a head coach for six years there in Indy and a couple in Chicago to finish it out,

I've never heard of anything like that. And, you know, Hugh comes in with just kind of a different angle. I think you guys understand that angle of saying, okay, you know, this was the plan. You know, this is, you This is our four-year plan. This is what we're going to do. So on the onset, on the front side of that thing, at the very beginning, sitting down with Jimmy Haslam, you could say, okay, because there's no guarantees. Sorry about that.

Don't worry about it. There's no guarantees. They give you a four-year contract a five-year contract and and we've seen a bunch of one-and-dones you know by a lot of uh organizations but um yeah that's just another way to say hey look you know we're gonna do this this way and we're gonna get a bunch of young players and we're gonna save money we're gonna get cap you know draft capital and and have money and and uh you know try to get as many draft picks you know lined up as we can and um you know but i i've never you know it's kind of like everybody else you're just kind of like you know it's a it's a head scratcher chuck i don't know how much you paid attention to the

jim hardball situation going to minnesota it like Harbaugh felt like he had the gig going in or he was, like, first in line. And then he comes away and calls Michigan and says, hey, great news, I'm coming back. I don't know what exactly happened. I know I did read something. I don't know if it's a rumor or not that he gave his whole staff Wednesday off or the rest of the week off when he was going to interview. No idea.

It could be a rumor online. It doesn't really matter. But do you think Minnesota, like, is there a chance that they had him all, he was in their sights when he was going to interview no idea it could be a rumor online doesn't really matter but do you think Minnesota like is there a chance that they had him all he was in their sights he was going to be the guy then all of a sudden after the interview they said no I mean that's what it looks like AJ um you know because I was sitting there thinking to myself there's no way that you get on a plane and you go interview on national signing day now granted most of the kids have already signed because they've got you know two signing days they got the early signing period and then yesterday was national signing day and most of the you know

especially the power five schools they've got their classes you know basically all locked up all signed up um but to get on a plane on that day and go interview with the Minnesota Vikings, I was sitting there, you know, talking to my peeps and my family and Tina saying, there's no way he doesn't have this job. You wouldn't risk that. And I don't know how you go back. You know, you've got a locker room full of players, a coaching staff, the administration, everybody at that school. You just made the college football playoff. You've got all that stuff. I don't know how you – to me, it was like there was no turning back,

and then all of a sudden, it's not a done deal. He calls Michigan and says, hey, I'm coming back, blah, blah, blah. What the motivation there was. We all know that they cut his salary, you know, a year ago. Did he have an ax to grind? Did he have a point to prove? Who knows, you know? I know Jim's a hell of a football coach, you know,

and he's won wherever he's been. You know, University of San Diego, San Francisco, 44-19. You know, the job that he's done, you know, at Michigan over the past seven years. I mean, his record and resume speaks for itself, but I would have just, like, when I read that last night, I'm like, wow. So, I, you know, so who knows? He was in that building for a long time, you know, so he's got the relationship with the GM as well from San Francisco that's the new GM uh in Minnesota correct yeah so there's there's that whole thing that everybody's doing is their parent you know Joshua Ziegler over at the Raiders right there you know the guy in Buffalo

with Dayball you know because the most important thing is that head coach-GM relationship and those guys being able to get on, you know, get along together. You saw, you know, Ryan Poles talking about Matt Eberflus. And when they got together, he says, you know, this wasn't my brother, but after I spent a day with this guy, I feel like I have a brother, you know, so to speak. And we'll see. You know, so to speak. And so there was obviously a great connection there. And so something must have, you know,

something must have happened in that building, you know, over the course of that interview where, you know, who knows? Chuck, is there a chance, Chuck, is there a chance because we heard that Harbaugh was going to the Raiders and then Ian Rappaport came and sat exactly where you are right now and said, maybe from Harbaugh, not from the Raiders side. And then we hear Harbaugh to the Vikings, and then it's like a little bit of smoke, and then he goes in there and does the interview. Is there a chance that the people around Harbaugh, whether it's the PR, the agent, whoever else it could be be that are spreading this information to the insiders and to the internet to the media they even told hardball like no yeah we think you're

going to be good for the vikings job like is there a chance hardball was getting wrong information going there from his own people and should he address that or do you think they were just stirring up shit to maybe have an axe to grind with the university of michigan like you brought up there which i didn't even think about until just now whenever you said that? Yeah, you know, it's another great question. And until we know the real story. Would that happen, though? I love that stuff.

I've seen that hurt people. I've seen, you know, guys, and you hear stories about, you know, people's PR guy and certain guys have friends at this newspaper or that newspaper. Hey, get my name in the newspaper, get my name out there. You start putting headlines out that I'm a finalist for this job, or I'm one of the top candidates, this, that, and the other. But I've seen that, you know, work both ways. And I know as an organization, if, you know, you're seeing a bunch of that stuff and a lot of that stuff's coming out,

you may go, hey, look, we're going to make the final decision on this and it isn't going to be your agent. It isn't going to be a PR firm that you've hired. But again, think about the search committees you mentioned. The hiring processes are going to come under as you mentioned, you know, the hiring processes are going to come under, you know, huge scrutiny, you know, here moving forward. But I think everybody has brought more people to the table, you know, when they bring these coaches in to interview. So all it takes, Pat and AJ and boys, all it takes is one person sitting in that room where they go around and say, you know, hey, thumbs up, you know, on Jim Harbaugh or whoever. And all it takes is one person that they've added to this committee and say, hey, look, I didn't get a great feel, you know. Or, you know, because these guys vet these guys and they call and call and call. And they're going to go back through your entire coaching history

and call everybody in every school, every university, every head coach you work for, assistants, and just to try to see if one person will say, hey, look, hey, don't go down that road. This dude is, you know, and all it takes is one guy to make those guys flinch. Chuck, so they hired Kevin O'Connell, and it seemed to kind of come out of nowhere. Do you know much about him and how does that happen to where his name wasn't really being floated everywhere

like hey this guy's a top candidate to be a head coach i didn't know he existed chuck i didn't know this guy even existed had no idea yeah that makes three of us probably the whole the whole room over there. I mean, McVeigh, you know, he's 35, 36 years old, and his tree is like, I think Lombardi or somebody was, or Al Michaels was talking about, you know, his tree. And you think about all the guys, and everybody's going to go to a place where, you know, Sean's had so much success in such a short period of time. And you see all these guys. So everybody wants to know. It's like Patriots. You know, everybody was going and grabbing and trying to get information. What's the Patriot way?

What are the secrets? You know, so they bring these guys and they hire them. They interview them. Some work out. Some don't. So I don't know a lot about O'Connell, maybe just the opposite of maybe a Harbaugh situation where, hey, it's out there, he's getting it, he's getting it, he's getting it, and then all of a sudden you don't

hear about this other dude where, you know, a lot of those times it's like you have an opportunity, you're talking to a place, and you're like that close, and that's like, okay, shut the phones off, shut the media off, don't talk to anybody. You tell your group of people, you tell your camp, you know, your PR guys, your agent, just radio silence. I think we're in a good spot here. Let's don't screw this thing up. So, like always, less is more in a lot of these situations. And so a guy like O'Connell, obviously they can't hire him until after the Super Bowl is over, if that's going to be the guy.

You remember this whole thing went down with Shanahan a couple years back before he went to San Fran, right? He was at Atlanta, was the offensive coordinator, I believe, at the Falcons. And it was like, okay, it's already a done deal. And you're not supposed to have done deals. You know, there's supposed to be, you know, rules in place where there's windows of opportunity that you can interview and you can talk to these coaches, you know, and then that window closes if they're still playing the playoffs

and then it's supposed to open back up, you know, once the playoffs are over. So I think a lot of these deals are getting brokered, obviously, behind the scenes. And, again, I'm sure this guy is – how about McNow in Houston? Who? McCown, excuse me. Oh, jeez, I thought you said McNow. I was like, McNow.

I'm excited to hear McNow. I'm like a little bit of I'm excited to hear McNow. I'm like a little bit of Lombardi. Galvin Gould starts to infect your head and your brain. Believe me, I know. Brian Lefwich instead of Byron. Those things happen every now and then. But Josh,

right? Cal coming out. Never coached a day in his life, I don't think, right? And he's totally a finalist for that job. Well well John McClain allegedly doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground is what the internet told me I'm not saying that I'm just telling you some people tweeted me that after we broke the news that Josh McCown is going to be the next big NFL news that John McClain wrote in the Houston Chronicle and John McClain's been covering the Texans I think for like 30 years I think he was even covering the Oilers at one point whenever they were around.

So we just assume on this show, if John McClain's saying it, there's a reason he's saying it. And then a lot of people in Houston are like, nah, John don't know shit. John don't know nothing. But if he gets hired, I mean, hey, he might be a great head coach.

Honestly, Josh McAllen might be a great head coach. But with everything going on with Flores and obviously Hugh Jackson coming involved, and I think there was some other folks, and there's a class action lawsuit happening where, like you said, there is not supposed to be any done deals where the day ball deal was already finished before Flores even went in for an interview

and how that looks incredibly awkward and uncomfortable for Brian Flores. And he said it was humiliating, obviously, the entire thing. It's just, it's a wild time right now. And I think that's going to happen whenever there's like eight coaches, head coaching opportunities out there. This is a lot of openings, right? And this is taking a lot longer than normally, right, Chuck? Yeah, no question.

So this leads us all to believe that, you know, there's candidates, obviously, that are still in play on these two staffs that are left. Maybe Lou's name, I know you had Lou on earlier. His name was, I guess he interviewed at one point with one team. I can't remember which team it was. But obviously, Raheem Morris, defense coordinator there at the Rams, and O'Connell. Those are two guys that are still playing. So that'll drag the process out.

But believe me, if those guys know and they've had their discussions, because you're saying, hey, we've got to build a staff. We've got to put a staff together. And there's only so many coaches available. And guys covet certain guys. And those guys guys especially the really good football coaches that have been around a long time and have a lot of experience the guys that are hiring you know or been hired to this point you know they're they're on the phones and

they're getting those guys in for interviews you know seal these contracts up so the pool the pool is going to shrink uh really really fast so these teams that that haven't named uh their guy they either have them you know in place and they're just sitting there because they're still working um or they're trying you know maybe something happens and and something comes up out of nowhere and all of a sudden oh shoot we gotta start all over coach kevin o'connell's been distracted trying to put his staff together. Oh, no. You think Lou's been fucking around trying to build a goddamn staff? No chance. No way.

Hey, you know Coach Lou? I assume you do. Defense, Italian, how you doing? Keep it moving. We have Sunday gravy together. Never worked with Lou. Obviously, admired the job that he's done at this spot in Cincinnati, but watched him from afar from a lot of places.

Good friends of mine have worked with Lou, and they just ran. A friend of ours. Yeah, a friend of ours. Italian coaches and every other coach that I know, they all ran and raved about Lou. And I think he's pretty good at making the sauce, too, the gravy. Oh! I didn't know they should have asked about the gravy.

Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Chuck, granted Josh McCown might change this, but why do you think former players who want to become coaches have to start all the way at, like, the bottom of the ranks and don't get kind of a more, like, main job, like even as a defensive back coach? Great question. That's a good back coach great question that's a good yeah that's a great question i know you guys were talking uh to d butt you know about that um the

other day when he was on the show um you know certainly just because again you know my experience and talking to these guys and being around these guys, you know, there are some guys like, I think we all think that like we could hire D-Butt tomorrow. D-Butts has never coached, you know, a day in his life in front of a room. I don't believe. He did a lot of the coaching for us at Indy, obviously, but as a hire, I think we could all hire D-Butt and say, hey, look, he's going to do a fantastic job. But I think that when you have an opportunity to go to a place, and the way I started was a graduate assistant, 1984, Southern Cal, and spent two years there, a year under Jimmy Johnson at Miami in 86. And it's kind of, I learned a lot. Now, you pay a lot of those dues.

You know, you're doing a lot of the grunt work. You know, it isn't a lot. Now, you pay a lot of those dues. You're doing a lot of the grunt work. It isn't a lot of football, but it's the film breakdown. It's going to get lunches, Christmas trees at Christmastime, pumpkins at Halloween. So there's a lot of horror stories. There's a lot of horror stories. There's a lot of, you know, BS that goes on. But you learn at the grassroots level of, you know, how to break down film, how to watch film. You know, not only, you know, learn one side of the ball, the other are special teams. You know, all sorts of how to draw cards, how to put together, you know, a 20, 25-minute individual. You know, you guys have gone out to practice sometimes. AJ, you've gone out to an individual period where, you know, you might have been like,

I don't know how much thought coach put into this individual period today. You know, we're kind of like flying by the seat of our pants and it might've been an OTAs. It's probably not during the playoffs or anything like that, but there's always been a time where, so there's a learning curve there as far as, you know, putting a lesson plan together, if you will. Like you can't just go be an elementary teacher and teach fourth grade and not ever, you know, somebody's never taught you how to put, you know, a lesson plan together, you know,

as far as getting up in front of a room, having a plan for the day here's the install here's my PowerPoint this this is how I'm going to teach these guy because they're all different you know they all learn in a different way some learn you know off off the board you know putting the pictures up you know most guys need to see that in the classroom then go walk through it and then go practice it but until you've like done that over and over and over again or had an opportunity to sit like you know I sat for a long time and watched a lot of great coaches you know

and I plucked certain things that I wanted to you know take with me you know when I first got a full-time job. But those aren't easy deals, and it isn't like you can just get in there and, hey, ball come, you come. Ball go, you go. I think it's a little bit more than that. Chuck, quick question, quick question. You talked about getting coffee, driving up cars, drawing up cards, driving to get Christmas trees and everything like that.

cars, drawing up cards, driving to get Christmas trees, and everything like that. I mean, there is no way that guys played any significant time in the NFL. Ever. Right? I mean, I guess people have done it. That is an incredible... Like, you're 21, 22 when you do that? How old are you whenever you did that

at USC and stuff like that? I was 24 when I got my first job there. Okay, so you're 24, 20, like, in your early 20s. Guys that are like 31, 32, 33 years old, I think that is going to be very difficult to get them after they've gotten a master's in elementary school or they've gotten a master's in football from playing on it to sign up for that type.

Do you think there's any way to change that or do you think that is all like a necessity type thing? Because I think former players getting into coaching is good. I think that's good for the league. I think it's good for the league I think it's good for everything and also they're the best football minds that we have like how do you think do you think you can change that or no you think there's no way you all those steps are necessary you think I think it's a lot of it has to be up to the player you know because you bring up some great points guys that have played you know 10 12 14 years and they come into the building at whatever time seven o'clock eight o'clock and they leave at five those guys

understand the hours they they see our cars there till you know some of them that never leave you know the parking lot until thursday or date night on friday so those guys see that and they're like you know and they've made a ton of money. And now it's like, okay, here's what you're telling me. I'm going to work 18 hours a day and you guys are going to pay me 50,000 bucks. All right. And my job description is what? Okay.

No, thank you. I love football, you know, but I don't love it this much. Maybe I can go find my passion and get my fulfillment at a high school level or do like Rivers is doing, Phillips is doing there at the high school level and things like that. So we've seen that. So I think there are a bunch of, like Larry Foote, there's guys, you know, B.A.'s got guys on his staff, former, you know, players, they're all over, you know. Wes Welker has carved out a great career for himself, but there's guys that, I mean, we all, and we all know, we all could have said, you know, as coaches, you know, that guy's going to make a great coach. That guy is going to make a great coach. D-Butt would be an excellent coach.

Pops, you know, Mikey Adams, you know, just spent his first year in Chicago, you know, cutting his teeth there as a quality control coach on defense, you know, in the secondary. You know, so I think it's a, you know know those guys are smart guys and they do know the game but then it's it comes down to you know both sides okay am I willing to do that and I don't think anymore Pat to be honest with you that the stuff that maybe I experienced or anybody experiences especially in the National Football League as far far as doing all the grunt work and things. These guys are having responsibility.

And the coaching staffs that I've been around and the young coaches that we have, you know in Indy, the young coaches that we had, the quality control coaches we had on both sides, we always try to give those guys opportunities to get up in front of the room and present. Not only in a position group, but in team meetings and things like that so they could get that experience. And it wasn't, hey, go pick up my dry cleaning, go get lunch for the guys, I need a car wash. That bullshit doesn't happen in the national football league.

Yeah, on the coaching side. But the hardest thing is, again, the time commitment. Yeah, I agree. And I think it's going to be tough for former players to get in there, but our former players are our best minds. It's like the coaching world is an interesting one. It is. You've got to pay your dues.

You've got to do your thing. But there's a lot. And then there's some people that bypass it and get in there. And if you win, that's all that matters. I mean, I guess at the end of the day, if you win, that's all that matters. And we get a chance to win every single week we have you on. Chuck, we can't thank you enough. Can't wait to see you next week in L.A., bub.

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. Appreciate you guys. Now, thank you for being a part of that athletic article, too, by the way. I mean, the Tom McMahon story was amazing. That is absolutely amazing. I forgot about it, obviously. And I did, too too so i'm reading it you know zach sent it over this morning so i'm reading it this morning tina and i and and we're

just dying laughing and uh you know tommy's story because that's that is a that's gospel you're sitting there putting the t the ball on the t and you see it wide open it's the opening kickoff and you're putting that thing down you're looking out of the corner of your eye and we just see the steam coming out and Midge is looking at me and I'm looking at Midge I said don't the fuck

don't let him do that don't give him that fucking thumbs up and Bats you pussy he's screaming from the sidelines. You went and did what you wanted to do anyway. Christ, we. Yeah, well, be who you can afford to be. But it was awesome to get through there, and I thank you for your time there.

Honestly, talking to them. The best one was, like, we're listening to you tell the story about the fake pot, you know, again. And that thing took, I said, how long did that take for him to tell? Because she goes, it was like seven minutes long, that little recording. I said, I should have known better. If something takes that long to explain and to practice, it's out. We had fun times.

We had a great group of people. I was very lucky to be a part of it. But I think, you know, I think the best players in the NFL and the best coaches, I think they enjoy the shit out of like the team, like, like, you know, like everybody being together. And I think that is what everybody misses. I was very lucky to be a part of a great group of people at the Indianapolis Colts. And obviously you're no different. So I appreciate the hell out of you, man. And thank you for joining us every week this season. We'll see you next week in LA. Appreciate you our uso tour by the way those stories about castan to me pat that was like the the best time of my life you know doing that and for me and you personally and where our relationship

you know after that and having a chance just to i, talk, and have all the filters down and take the gloves off. It was tremendous. And Godzilla. Godzilla. I told that story. People think it didn't happen. It really happened.

I mean, there was like 100 people screaming at him. And they gave out these glow sticks that were like these foam gloves. This club was outright, I mean, lit. I mean, it was a very good time. And they were just hitting him with these glow sticks, screaming Godzilla while he was dancing in the middle of that. It was awesome. I mean, he was obviously, he's bigger than every human that I've ever been around.

Japan is not, I think their average height is not as high as the United States of America. I would just say that he was foot in the tower. I mean, it was like this high. We looked out on the dance floor and it was Anthony Costanzo's top of his head. And he was, he was having a full, it was a great time.

I, I've said this numerous times. If you need to like bring a team together or a group together or an office together, go to a country in which they don't speak your language at all and it is impossible to figure out what they're saying because you literally can only rely on each other almost so everywhere we went it was just us basically talking to each other and experiencing this brand i thought it was huge it was awesome

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and free-to-play games where you can win money. Shout out to FanDuel. Shout out to you. Let's get back to the show. And we are pleased to be joined by an absolute icon, a man who has accomplished everything. His show, Entourage, shaped my entire life, literally and figuratively. On to talk about his new movie, Uncharted, which is in theaters everywhere February 18th.

An absolute thriller about finding treasures and reading clues alongside fucking Spider-Man. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Wahlberg. Wow, what an introduction. Huh? Pretty good. Absolutely. That's fantastic. Oh, thank you, man. You deserve all of that and more.

I wish I could have gave you a little bit more. Uncharted is going to be good. You're in the middle of a press run right now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're promoting the tour, but the Buffer Brothers have nothing on you. That was fantastic. Thank you. That was fantastic. Thank you.

Hey, you make a lot of movies. You need a white to introduce you ever. Let me know. You know, I'm ready to go. Thank you, buddy. How are you guys doing? Hey, not too shabby. How are you?

Very busy with this. This movie looks unbelievable. We weren't able to. Yeah, yeah, we're excited about it. It's something that's been in the making for quite some time so between you know anticipating you know Uncharted coming out to theaters February 18th and now waiting to hear what Aaron Rodgers does next and when he announces that on your show we're we're excited I'm on pins and needles here that's good news hey obviously you have a sweet stash right now I know you're

doing something with that you have like a little Twitter challenge right can you explain that yeah you know we we made the movie Uncharted. Obviously, it's beloved. Over 40 million video games sold. And the character Sully is quite iconic in his look with the mustache. In the beginning of the movie, I don't have the mustache. And I kind of transition into what people know from the game as Sully with the stache. So I wore the mustache at the end of the film.

And then I wore it for another film. And then I was like, you know what? I want to remind people that I was the Sully with the stache. So I wore the mustache at the end of the film, and then I wore it for another film, and then I was like, you know what? I want to remind people that I was the Sully. And then also, my sister and my brothers think I look so much like my dad with the mustache that I'm just honoring him. And so, yeah, I'm wearing the stache until the movie comes out.

Great. Hey, keep that thing around. I know you've got to do a lot of different things. My wife hated it at first, and now she's's digging it and so now we're challenging other people to annoy their uh significant others and and wear a mustache as well well if i had the ability to grow one that looked like that i would definitely shave the rest of my face if i was as attractive as you i would do the same thing can i talk about your range though you're either the most wholesome dude in a movie or the fucking baddest of all dudes of all time.

And in this one, it feels like, and we didn't get to see the screener last night because the ice storm came through, but we saw the trailer, we read about it. I think you've got both going on in this particular movie. I think you're the mentor, the wholesome guy, and then I think I've seen you fucking some people up in there too, Mark. Let's go. Yeah, he's also the least trustworthy guy in the world. You chip away at him.

This kind of treasure hunting world is very cutthroat. But he does, if you chipped away at him, he realizes that he has a heart of gold. So it's amazing that Tom and I kind of butt heads the whole time and then it's great for people to see us come together as a team.

No spoilers, no spoilers. That was was smart mark quick quick pivot what's uh what do you think about mac jones and the patriots and what they're going to do going forward well you know they started when they went on that run there and i thought oh my god mac jones he's he dude first year out of the gate he this guy's going to the playoffs and he's going to be fantastic and you know they they hit a bit of a road bump there but i still think he's got a shot he's he playoffs and he's going to be fantastic. And, you know, they hit a bit of a road bump there, but I still think he's got a shot. He's super talented, you know, didn't end up having the season that I had hoped. Buffalo, that Buffalo game was pretty tough. But, you know, he's got talented potential. It's just crazy now if you look at Joe Burrow, you look at Patrick Mahomes, and you look at Josh Allen. I mean, those guys are so mobile. They've got cannons. It's just a different level right now. Let's talk about a thousand-yard rushing quarterback that you got to see a lot, Tom Brady. He obviously announces his

retirement here just a few days ago. I assume you and him are very tight. You are friends. What is it like to watch your friend retire from being the greatest of all time? And he's probably going to go on to make a bazillion dollars after football, but not seeing him on the field is going to be a little bit different I assume for you yeah I was I was actually I was kind of surprised I was hoping that uh you know they were they were going to have one more one more go at it and visit one more Super Bowl but and he's done so much for obviously for New England uh the fan base there what he did for Tampa in the two years that he was there, and what he did for football as a whole. I'm happy for him.

He's retiring. He goes, go on, enjoy the rest of his life, and look forward to seeing what else he's going to do. You know, it's just one of those things where I'm surprised it only took him 22 years to get that 1,000 yards, you know, and it would have taken 25 to get there. But, you know, what an accomplishment, what a career. And, you know, I'm excited to see what he does next. So we have a picture of your daily schedule, okay? We read this. I have a lot

of respect for you, Mark. I think you've accomplished so much, and obviously you seem to be everywhere at all times. Is any of this real? Like, is this real? This is what you do every single goddamn day, Mark? It's not every single day it's what i was doing at the time but they also they misinterpreted some stuff i think if you look at that schedule closely it has me being in the shower for 45 minutes which is not the case but i was getting up at 2 30 i mean today i got up at 2 45 i got a lot of stuff to do before i go to work uh i want to get my training in all my prayer time or whatever else i stuff to do before I go to work. I want to get my training in, all my prayer time or whatever else I need to do before I start my day, getting the kids up for school, which is

no easy task. But the last movie I did, I put on 30 pounds. So I was just kind of eating and stuff in my face. It really just depends on what I'm doing for work or the next role that I'm playing calls for in preparation. How, when did you get to this point? Do you have like a look back and when you became like this super businessman, tightened up, or has this always been the way you've operated? Have you always been this? Well, I've always been a bit of a go-getter and pretty ambitious.

I mean, even, you know, people ask me a lot about my video game history because this movie is based on a game. I mean, to get a quarter out of my dad was not an easy thing to go and play Astero asteroids one time. And then if I wanted to shovel snow or sell newspapers to do anything else, odd jobs, I was always kind of getting after it. The only way I could make something happen is if I went out there and kind of did it myself. So I've just applied those, that work ethic to what I do now and it works. So I don't, I don't want to change it. I don't want to, you know, defer from

it. Amen. Mark, this guy that you're talking to in the tank top, Pat thinks that he can make the senior PGA Tour someday. I know you're a very avid golfer, very good golfer. What do you think the chances are on someone like him all of a sudden becoming an elite golfer and making the tour? What's his deal? You know what? I mean, I don't know.

I had that kind of same ambition when I first discovered the game. I was like, this is what I want to do. I played in every tournament. I know Pebble Beach, the program just started today. And I'm like, thank God I'm not there at five o'clock in the morning. The lights are just coming on. You're freezing cold. You're hitting balls. Six and a half hour rounds. You know, although I do want to go back there in hopes to find good weather. But now I just kind of play with my buddies. We play in two and a half hours. I do try to practice every day because I want to get good. But the greatest thing just happened to me. My son started playing before Christmas. So both of them now are hitting

balls every day. They're going to play at night and under the lights. So I love it. I mean, for us to be able to just pick up and go and travel wherever we want and play together, that's going to be the greatest thing that ever happened to me you don't have to go anywhere right i mean images of your backyard surfaced on the internet and i think everybody said oh my how long did this take did you build this because your kids got into golf or is this whole oh no i built i built it before for myself but now in hopes that they would so i have one range that's up high and then i have the other range down below for them so they're not breaking the windows in the guest house and everything but yeah i mean i love the game that much so i'm i'm actually gonna go and uh after i finish today go and hit balls i'll probably hit you know uh you know a

couple hundred balls and then chip and putt and then you know play with my sons and putt have putting contests with them after i can't wait to see you in the champion store me and you are gonna fucking wreck shop in there dude it's gonna be so. Yeah, we'll be going up against who's, I don't know. I'm already 50, and I don't think I can make it. I've probably. You're 50? Yeah, and I've shot under par maybe three times my whole life. So I'm not expecting to go into the Champions Tour.

You're 50 years old, dude. I would have never guessed that. Has anything that you didn't think was going to happen in your life not happen it feels like you got businesses that are very successful i mean the wall burgers were unbelievable you're in the water game for a bit there i saw you pushing that stuff movies obviously you started in the music world i think you have rvs for sale right now has there has there been anything that you have dealerships dealerships. Car dealerships. Sorry about that as well. Sports nutrition, gyms. Yeah. Is there anything you haven't done yet that you like had on the list of things you would

like to accomplish? No, but I mean, you know, all the things that I do are things that I have a real passion for and that I kind of live on a daily basis. So I don't really do too many things that are, I mean, I have a portfolio and I got a guy who kind of, you know, makes some investments for me on a passive level but i like to be involved and get you know get uh get in there and make things happen so um i just uh you know i do things that i love and i'm passionate about and you know i love to build business i've always had that kind of entrepreneurial spirit so but i'd like to i'd like to just uh make more movies where i live so

i could spend uh less time away from home and my family. Yeah, I think I read what? Uncharted you filmed in Spain and some other places I couldn't pronounce. Yeah, Spain, Berlin, Madrid, and other parts of Spain during the pandemic, which was tough. Because you're in these beautiful locations, but you don't get to really go anywhere or do anything. Kind of whisked to the hotel. You get tested. You test in the morning.

You test again at night. And, you know, you don't want to do anything to kind of shut down the production. That would be a big no-no. Yeah, I mean, I didn't hear you give any, like, I'll kill you speeches. But I heard that from other actors, you know, during the, if you messed up any of the COVID things. I would be remiss if I didn't ask you about Entourage. You know, because there's always, like, this loose like this loose reference like oh that's mark's life and then i assume there was some creative liberties after season one season two season three whatever it was how accurate was that and did you expect to change like for instance

my life with that thing i grew up in pittsburgh never could have imagined what it would be like with your friends making it big in the business did you know that as that was happening or did you have any expectations and how true is it to your life we always felt making it big in the business? Did you know that as that was happening? Or did you have any expectations? And how true is it to your life? We always felt like it would be the ultimate wish fulfillment for guys, you know, to kind of be there living vicariously through them. And what better way to enjoy success than to share it with your friends? So I always took my guys with me wherever we went.

And we started making a documentary about my buddies trying to start a rap career in their late 30s. And it was a disaster. So we were documenting that and we were showing everybody like, oh my God, we should do a TV series, a scripted series about you and your friends. And I said, no, let's kind of make it loosely based on us. And so they took stuff from my life, from other actors,

in their experience, whether it was Leo, lots of different people. And we kind of, you know, try to make it as realistic as possible and bring people into that experience. And again, sharing with our friends and, you know, we looked at Sex and the City and how much women love that show. And we're like, oh, we need something like that for guys. And it was something that, you know, obviously changed the game. I remember the first time we did the pilot, I couldn't get anybody to do a cameo. So I had to do it myself.

And then I remember, you know, people then begging to be on the show. And, and when we finally did the movie, I mean, you had literally, I don't know,

75 cameos. I mean, a list of people begging to be on the show, which was great. Yeah. I think you accomplished the male sex in the city, man. Way to go. Hey, way to go, Mark. We appreciate it out there. Go ahead,, which is great. Yeah, I think you accomplished the male sex in the city, man. Way to go, Mark.

Hey, way to go, Mark. We appreciate it out there. Go ahead, Todd. Thank you. Mark, at this point in your career, obviously people are kind of coming out to you when they want you to be in something. And you've been one of the biggest movie stars in the world

for, what, 20-plus years. But are there any guys, either actors or actresses or directors, who you haven't worked with yet that you'd like to before it's all said and done? Oh, my gosh, there are so many. You know, I've been fortunate enough to work with some of the greats and, you know, they've taken me under their wing. I really get to kind of pick their brain and learn from them. But, you know, of course, the Clint Eastwood, the Steven Spielberg, you know, Guillermo del Toro. There's so many and all the up and coming filmmakers. I'm always excited to either kind of find my own stories and get them made myself,

or I'm also willing to go and service a vision of a writer, director and have them give me line readings. I don't care. I just want to work with the greats. And I want to continue to do more and more and better and better each time out and challenge myself and grow as an actor. I feel as excited about working now as I did when I started. How awesome is Antonio Banderas? I know he's in this movie. I'm always a giant fan. Amazing.

Amazing. You know, he and I have known each other for a while, but we never worked together. And he's what a great villain. He really enjoyed himself. And, you know, people loving him in the movie. What a great villain. He really enjoyed himself, and people loving him in the movie. February 18th, Uncharted comes out starring this man, Tom Holland, Antonio Banderas.

I know you've got a lot of other stuff to do. We appreciate you. What do you think would be your natural walk-around weight, you think? Because I think we see you yoked up. We saw you fat. Now we see you kind of standard operation. What do you think is your standard weight? Like 190. 190 i mean i've gone from 218 to 130 i was just 136 for a movie so i kind of how how what do you do uh it's just drink water and uh do cardio and uh be miserable but and then of course eating you know i think the eating eating and putting on weight is harder just because you still got to,

even if you're full, you got to pack in the next meal and then pack in the next meal. But in losing weight, you just got to be more disciplined. Well, we appreciate your time. We appreciate your commitment to the characters that you play. Can't wait to watch Uncharted on February 18th. The mustache looks fantastic. Have a great one, boss. Hey, thank you, guys. Congrats on all your

success. Oh, thank you. Hey, you too, man. Thank you. One day we strive to be like Mark Wahlberg. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, Mark Wahlberg. All right, so they were trying to relay information to Zito. Zito couldn't see it on the computer so they had actually had it pop up on the screen there towards the end of it. In the middle of a run,

I can't believe we got a chance to chat with him. They kicked us out of that meeting so fast. What's that? they kicked us out of that meeting so fast oh yeah they're done with it there's a new one coming up i bet it's a junkie he's got him all day yeah i feel like us uh we really separated ourselves i feel like we really separated when he wraps up all of his interviews from the day he's gonna think back that one that just started awkwardly at 158 yeah sorry sorry to serious listeners we mark walbert showed up in our zoom call marky mark waits for no he showed up early and i was like all right we might as well just go ahead and do this entire thing how about that if he's just posting up there talking all day i can see how that could

get a bit relentless i'm gonna watch uncharted, though. Imagine walking around 60 pounds less than your normal walking around weight. Yeah, 130. What movie did he do? Obviously, it hasn't come out yet. I saw a trailer for one on Apple. I believe Apple Plus. He's got some movie he's starting. It's coming out, I think, this week as well with Uncharted coming out, too.

Damn. So we got the Uncharted press, but not the other one? Right. I believe so. Good to know he actually did bulk up to 218 because we were looking at those photos. Pain and Gain? You guys see Pain and Gain?

Yes. No, no. There's this other one. They're oxen that though. Pain and Gain. Yeah, I know that one, but that wasn't the one he was force feeding himself for. No, no. That one hasn't come out yet either. Yeah, it's another one. Hey, Mark's got 10 of them on deck, dude. That's what you need to know.

I drive by Mark Wahlberg Chevrolet. That's not too far from me. I was like, when did this place become Mark Wahlberg? And I guess he's got dealerships all over now. I love that. Good businessman. We got an opportunity to watch the screener last night. We had a theater.

We were supposed to go watch it and everything. Why don't they send you a link? That's normally what happens, right? I don't know. I don't know. We don't normally do this do this this isn't something we normally do so how many did they say could go the whole whole crew what if you said hey can i can i fill the theater yeah sure with your buds like with your friends no filming well i think we could actually next time we should think about just filling the theater in general well yeah everybody would have came i mean everybody was supposed to come but it was an ice storm, so we missed it.

But it was big for them, for us to watch it before talking to them. So when I told him, ah, I didn't get to see it, I heard him go, huh. So I'm assuming he's pissed at somebody for letting us. He probably says, hey, how about you send the guys a link? That's probably what he said to his people. Well, that's what we said back a couple of times.

They don't trust it, though. They don't trust people with links, I'm sure. Yeah, but you can make it active. But you just put your big name. Like Conor McGregor sent us his documentary They don't trust it, though. They don't trust people with links, I'm sure. Yeah, but you can make it active. But you just put your big name. Like, Conor McGregor sent us his documentary before it came out. Yeah, I said I'd seen it. And it said literally our name right across it. Well, and you can only make the link active for, like, 24, 10 hours or whatever, right?

Yeah, but they've got a lot going on. But if it's February 18th, are they worried that you're going to take, like, swing grabs and leak things? That's a long time from now. Yeah. Two weeks. Wow. Yeah.

Why is he doing the junket today? What is a junket? What are we even? You saw his background. Like when guys are doing movies, they sit down and usually it's like five minute interviews where people just roll through for six straight hours doing five minute interviews. Is that real? Oh, yeah. The link was called junket. Yeah. He's probably doing that for the next like six hours today absolutely yeah oh

that's what they do to promote it they have to get all like they hit every local station and place from all over the country basically damn remember when you kind of had to do one i'm sure you've done it i don't think i've done anything like i think it was when we were at dazn remember when you had to sit in here and do like fucking 20 interviews I think it was when we were with DAZN. That was awesome. Remember when you had to sit in here and do like fucking 20 interviews? Oh, yeah. They had me call people. I was calling people.

Damn. By the way, it didn't work. I assume there's a method to the madness. Podcasting is the way to get messages out now more. I think so too, but the people that popped up on the screen said,

you got three minutes, get them the fuck out of here. We had them longer than I thought. Hey, me too. That's why when I saw them there early, Zito was like, he's here. One old buddy said,

state your name and your organization or your outlet. I was pumped for that, yeah. Was that Mark or somebody else? Someone else. Producer on the other side. What if we would have said,

this is the Boomer Esiason show. Well, he's texting his buddies right now. Yeah, saying that, hey, I just talked to Peyton freaking Manning. Could he see us or no? Yeah, the whole time. He could see us. To my understanding, yeah. Okay, good.

Hey, shout out, Mark. Thanks for coming back. Thank you, Mark. Eric Weddle has basically said that he's not playing football for any other team ever again. No, no, no. I'm going right back to the life I had before I got signed, and it's actually a pretty good mindset to be.

It's amazing to be able to understand that and know that I don't have to save myself for next season. I don't have to save myself for the offseason. I didn't have to save myself for the Super Bowl last week knowing it wasn't guaranteed, so I was throwing it in there, giving it everything I got. And he had nine tackles and one tackle for loss, led the Rams in tackles in the NFC Championship game.

Because, listen, I don't have anything left after this other than going back and doing what I was doing before. After this Super Bowl, I move on, go back to my old life, and there will be no comebacks. There will be not playing for another team, another game. No, no, no, no, he says. That's awesome. He said, so this is it.

All right, so what you're going to see out there, and not that the Super Bowl isn't a higher speed than the playoffs, and the playoffs are a higher speed than the regular season, and there's more sacrifice and saying, hey, what's the worst that could happen? I got no tomorrow anyway, so if I fucking throw my entire back into this and blow out every single T2, T1, T7 on my spine. It's not that big of a deal. Guys are really laying it on the line.

Look for Weto to do some crazy shit in the Super Bowl, it sounds like. That's what I'm reading there. Yeah, I mean, I think it's unbelievable what he has been able to do, coming off the street and play so well. It's an awesome story. They dropped him in. Yeah. Just dropped him in there.

How you doing? We're playing in the playoffs. These are big-time games. Good luck out there. We need you to make plays. He said, I still got it. And by the way, no hits all year. Fresh body.

Body feels pretty good, actually. Fresh legs, hopefully. What if Weddle does this for the Rams for the next five years? Just when the playoffs come, the Weddle. It's Weddle time. Come on in. Let's go ahead and get it. Why not?

I could see him maybe getting tempted in the future, but he's saying no, no, no. Not another game. Not another team. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, game, not another team, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, but if he's saying, like, I'm just going to go back to what I was doing, is he just going back to eating weights and staying ready just in case the Rams do make another Super Bowl? And playing pickup basketball, right? Yeah.

That's what he's doing for cardio. More power to him, man. He's basically just saying, hey, there's no way I'm doing OTAs and camp again. Yeah. Did you see what I just did? I fucking came in, led team in tackles in the championship game. I'm going to the Super Bowl. I didn't do this before.

What are we even doing around here? It's crazy. I feel like he looks quicker and faster now than he did at the end of his career, probably because of the time off and because his body's healed a little bit. I wonder what the weight difference is for him now versus what he normally plays. Looks similar, doesn't he? He does, but there's probably you know there's probably some sort of especially since he didn't have like any it wasn't like oh he came out of retirement

and he had a six weeks of camp or build up like here we go buddy you're you know you drop your kids off at school today and then you're playing in the nfc championship game next day and you're gonna somehow lead us in tact because then your body need to take a couple beat like you said first couple days of training camp is always tough on the body you know you have to get like recalus get back into hitting shape or whatever do you think he was just able to just bounce around there or you think he's sore as hell he is sore as hell sure he's sore but who cared sore is nothing like no sore is fine so if you're sore that goes away eventually like hurt is one thing sword come on get over it well you heard you injured yep you heard you injured

being sore is like you should take pride in being sore like sore feels good like if you get it's like if you have meatheads get a good old bench session their their chest is sore for the first time in a little while okay good i'm working yeah you earned that yeah even though you can't stand up from the shit you're taking you earned that for you oh yeah anybody could just stand up after taking a poop they didn't go in there and squat, body weight squat. They didn't do the triceps so you can't even help yourself up with your arms. They didn't do any of the things that have caused you to slide off of the toilet onto the ground to try to stand up because your legs are so dead. You earn that type of soreness. Is that what you're saying, AJ? Absolutely. And I'm sure your adrenaline really helps out too when you realize,

oh, my body hurts so bad. Oh, here we go. I was sitting on the couch, and now I'm in the Super Bowl. So that obviously is a big factor in that. Think about how good he was in his pickup games. Absurd. He was first pick every time. We got Eric. I assume the first time he showed up, though, awkward-looking white.

Let's pick him last. With the beard. And then there was, I don't know how many, probably four or five points in. They were like, oh, we'll never make that point. Oh, shit. We'll never make that. We got Billy Hoyle here. Let's get Billy Ho on the line.

Let's bounce around a little bit. Andrew Whitworth is older than both head coaches in the Super Bowl, this guy. Played for the Bengals for so long. Now he's playing against the Bengals in the Super Bowl. He's 44 years old. Sean McVay is 36. Obviously, Zach Taylor is 38. These two come from the same coaching tree.

They are young, offensive gurus who have been hired. And Andrew Whitworth, left tackle, who was hurt, then he was back, then he was hurt, then he was back. A man who's respected by everybody. He's older than both head coaches. How about that, baby? Andrew. Hey, Andrew! Hey, way to take care of your body and your mentals and your chickens to be able to play this long.

Very big congratulations to Andrew. I believe I also saw that he has more snaps on the Bengals than anyone on the Bengals does right now. Which would make sense because that Bengals team is so young, they don't know what they don't know, AJ. They don't know what they don't know over there. It's good. It's good to be kind of naive to the situation situation i think and then it just becomes the expected situation

yeah sometimes don't you think you're either like some people can be naive which is great and then some people can be they may be almost legends but they also have some scars on them where they mentally at times they think back on a couple times it didn't work out when young guys that are naive what do you mean? We're just here. We're just playing. And for instance, here's an example. Whenever I watch a playoff game, I'll see a ball dropped. I'll be like, can't drop a ball in the playoffs.

Can't do that. That's going to lead to a loss. And somebody on the team might even think, hey, you can't do that in the playoffs. I'm not saying this happened for the Bengals. But the Bengals see that and they're like, ah, no big deal. This ain't a thing. We'll catch the next one. Yeah, we'll get the next one. Because they haven't got that situation where it has just been an absolute

sword through the heart because of one mistake. And it becomes the new regular. And I'm, like, jealous. I am incredibly jealous that that young crew over there, this is the expectation they're going to have going into workouts and offseason. This is how they're going to carry themselves. I love it.

I absolutely love everything about it. Well, and I'm not saying, like, this is exactly how it is for the Chiefs, but it felt like that. The Chiefs have had those heartbreaking losses in the AFC Championship, and then once things started to go bad and they were winning and they had a lead and it started snowballing on them, I feel like because of that, because they already are calloused from massive losses and know that they can't blow it any time,

the Bengals are just like, yeah, we'll just win, I guess. We'll win i guess i guess we'll just go to the super bowl i don't know what i guess we'll hop on a bus in our full pads like we're fucking in a single a high school yeah and drive down to the university of cincinnati and hopefully the soccer team or uh field hockey team or any of the other cincinnati bearcat squads aren't on the fucking field so that the Cincinnati Bengals, the AFC champions, the team that's playing in the Super Bowl in less than 10 days or whatever, has to go to some university that is not a Power 5 school. No offense to Cincinnati.

This is not my deeming of who's Power 5, who's not Power 5. You're Power 1 in my eyes. This is an embarrassment, okay? This is a fucking embarrassment that they had to do this today. You know it. I know in all of Cincinnati who's attacked me for always referencing this, referencing this. They're on a goddamn bus like the 12 year olds driving down to a college to practice today for the Super Bowl. So, I mean, it's 2022. There's one hundred and ten billion dollars in deals in media rights there's $6,000 tickets to the Super Bowl right now.

I assume the Bengals are going to see some of that in the end of the day, and they're driving to the University of Cincinnati's indoor facility. Enough of it. Enough. Build the goddamn bubble. I hear you. I hear you. But, I mean, to the Bengals' credit,

I did hear that they get priority during the playoffs, though, where they get to go out first. They don't have to wait. No way. It's good negotiation. Yeah, it did hear that they get priority during the playoffs, though, where they get to go out first. They don't have to wait. No way. Hey, it's good negotiation. Yeah, it is. Hey, that Brown family will say, listen, we'll pay you for this thing, but we can probably –

I need to talk to the intramural director. We need to be priority number one when the playoffs start. Imagine, like, Mike coming in with a headband on. Yeah. We got an ultimate frisbee tournament. Hey, we signed up. Did you sign up, Joe Burrow? Did you sign up for the ultimate?

Oh, he did. We got the field for the next hour and a half, all right? And this game isn't even started yet, so fucking scram, Zach Taylor. Then he comes running off. The Bengals are all sitting on the outside yeah like it's a pickup basketball they're cheering they start cheering for the kids this guy's pretty fucking good that mike guy's a little bit of an asshole but the guy he's throwing that frisbee too he's a stud jamar maybe you can learn a little bit from that that's what they're doing they're waiting for the field though

we got next who are you the fucking afc champions we're trying to practice for the super bowl that's what's happening right now i mean it is kind of crazy when you think about it. But that is happening. Kind of. Kind of. I mean, what do we even. Maybe there's moments, though. You and Chuck talked about the USO tour.

You guys hanging out. We're riding on the bus. Great fellowships, sharing stories. Here we go. Let's go win the Super Bowl. I hope the stories are, I can't fucking believe we're this good of a team with this shitty of a fucking organization. That's real, though.

You come together. Guys come together in misery. I'm not saying they're in misery, but when you're in rough situations or tough situations, it does bring you closer. Which is why training camp is always something that a lot of people love, getting away. It's miserable. We're all in this thing together. We build some camaraderie, and maybe there is

a togetherness of playing for an amateur organization in the most successful league in the world. Maybe there is, but these boys should be able to get out there and practice whenever, however, wherever the fuck they want on their own property. Maybe in 10 years, though, Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, like you guys, don't even understand.

We used to have to drive down the road. And then we win the Super Bowl. Yeah. Ever since we got this stupid indoor facility, we haven't been back yet. You know, they're setting up for that, too. Joe Burrow's never going to say no. Every player in there is thinking as they're on the bus down to the University of fucking

Cincinnati. No offense to the Bearcats. Love the Bearcats, okay? Let's go, Bearcats. Alright, love Luke Vick. They're on the bus driving down there thinking to themselves, this is the highest league. This is the highest level. We're playing in the Super Bowl and here we are on school

buses. I heard there were six school buses. I wouldn't be surprised. They better pray to God that one of those things doesn't get stuck in a snowbank either, and Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and those guys got to get out of the bus and push it out. True. You know? But this is how – you know how this is.

I rode on those buses. Those buses were nice. We took them to our – when we had a team volleyball match too at the place with all the sand courts during OTAs. Those buses are nice. My took them to our, when we had a team volleyball match too at the place with all the sand courts during OTAs. Those buses are nice. My team won, but yeah. Congrats. Nice.

Holy shit. You get a ring? Get one of these? No, I didn't. I got a parking spot that I ended up selling to another player. You got what? One of the closest parking spots for my team winning, and then I flipped the spot because I didn't care to park that close.

I bet you fucking Mike Brown loved that move. Yeah. It's a good idea. I like this guy. I like this guy. Trying to steal a dollar and cut a corner anywhere he possibly can. He'll park on the other side of the parking lot. No, I could park like four spots next to it.

If you show up decent time, there's plenty of spots. Were you still driving that shitty pickup truck? Yeah. I don't know what I was driving. Ohio State legend one? Are you talking about that one? Are you talking about the one he drove out here with plastic on the seats? The one he drove out here. Plastic on the seats?

Plastic on the seats. One seater. Plastic on the seats? What do you mean? The O2 Corolla. There's a shitbox. Anyways, let's get to a break. It's amazing. It's a work truck. It's great.

It didn't have farm use only on the side, so it ain't that big of a fucking work truck. You drive it to your attic? Fucking drop sheets in the back. Guys? Before I came to Indy one time, though, my back left tire went completely flat like a couple hours before I was supposed to drive to Indy. So I got a couple cans of Fix-A-Flat and jammed it in there and continued to put air in there for the last two years, but filling it up with air. And wish for the best.

It's worked out great. It's great technology, that Fix-A-Flat. How does it work? We will never know. It's like the movie Greed or whatever. You know, the Vapurizer? Oh, yeah, that's right. Where does it go nobody knows how's fix a flat work nobody knows how's that sealant work that they have that can just be put on the glass

and it seals up water somehow seal nobody knows oh i had a bunch of that it's great it is but what is it how does it work i don't know killing the environment yeah it was just like that uh non-stick frying that's right that's a good one. All these things. You know, some chemist makes them. This will burn down the world. ShamWow. How does that thing get so dry?

It doesn't make sense. Like those divers. All those divers use their towels are like this big. And there are those blue things. And it's completely dry. Like, what is that? How? How? How is water not done that with anything else in the past?

But this thing comes. How does that work? That's alien tech. All that's alien tech. That's what we're thinking as well. Yeah. How do planes fly? I mean, you're right, brother.

Did you build a microwave? How do microwaves work? Yeah. And they're getting better and better. Nuclear bomb every 10 seconds. That's what they say. Somebody did tweet me about a nuclear bomb happening in this office the other day. We're happy to see you back, Zito.

Thank you, guys. Thank you, Z. Thank you, Z. I lost a lot of blood that day. Yeah. It wasn't just his butt. It was his nose. Out of both ends, he was losing blood?

I don't know if it was the blood on the butt. Okay, thank you. No. He wouldn't be able to see it, though. I mean, with the mass. Oh, no. All right, we're back in four minutes. Z, we're happy you're okay.

Thank you, guys. Happy for you, Z. Love you, Z. Love you, Z. Love you, guys. All right. We'll be back in four minutes with some phone calls wrapping up this day. A lot of news today.

A lot of news. How does a microwave work? it's a nuclear bomb dude okay zito was told that answer one time which might be right i assume there is some sort of truth to it for real though it doesn't like it how fast it can shut off too like an oven you know it's going to stay warm microwave obviously you open the door and it's instantly not hot in there and how come everything else yeah isn't hot that's in there. And why is it only hidden in spots? And they've been around forever, too. That's the other thing.

When were they invented? Well, what about the Foreman Grill? Yeah. True. Why can't you put metal in the microwave? You can. You can do it. I mean, you have to deal with the consequences.

I mean, you can do anything, I guess. Is that what you're saying? Way to go, AJ. It's like free speech. You can say whatever you want, but you do have to understand there are consequences sometimes. Is that right? That is right. That's like your guy.

Who's my guy? We'll be back in four minutes. Uncle Waxy? No. Cousin Bob. Aaron's neighbor. Yes. Bingo.

Who? Why has he got a piece of raw land down there in Nashville? Who's Cousin Bond? Shut up. You know who it is. Oh, that one. Gotcha. I really didn't.

Okay. Yeah, you did. Hey, why has Aaron got a piece of land down in Nashville? Aaron, he may own land in 15 different states. I honestly don't know. What states? You do know. I know he likes the whole montana idaho that whole

area that's probably like california yeah does he have a house up there or is it raw land so you're running for office make sure he cooks that land too before he eats it land not lamb what's that about i don't think he has any livestock can't thank you enough for allowing us to be a part of your day today. Big shout out to all the guests today. How about Mark Wahlberg stopping by, huh?

I mean, that's pretty cool. Maybe we'll have him back. Who knows? I don't know if he enjoyed it. I hope he did. And that movie Uncharted, it's coming out in two weeks. It should be good.

Hopefully it does well and all that. You get it. All right, we got to get home. We'll see you tomorrow for a feel-good Friday. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful Thursday night.

Bye. Thank you. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា Thank you. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា Oh yeah Oh yeah Oh yeah សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា Outro Music