The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 594 - Doug Pederson Hired In Jacksonville, Ian Rapoport, NFL Films Sr. Coordinating Producer Keith Cossrow, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: February 4, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the Jacksonville Jaguars hiring Doug Pederson to be their Head Coach, if Trent Baalke is going to still be the GM, if it ultimately matters or if the Jaguars will continue to stink, the Pro Bowl skills competition last night, and everything else happening around the NFL as we head into Pro Bowl weekend and prepare for Super Bowl week. Joining the program to chat about the different coaching hires, what spots are still available and which interviews have been lined up, the impending QB carousel this offseason, his plans for Super Bowl week, and more (26:08-49:33). Later, NFL Films Sr. Coordinating Producer Keith Cossrow joins the show to chat about the new Terry Bradshaw documentary by NFL Films on HBO, what NFL Films has lined up for future projects, how the show will go about getting NFL rights, how NFL Films goes about micing up players during the season, and more (1:16:47-1:38:32). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up, everybody? It is Feel Good Friday, February 4th, 2022. You are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0. Pat had to jump on a plane to head down to SmackDown tonight at 8 p.m. on Fox in Oklahoma City. Got a good one for you today. Ian Rappaport joins the show to talk about all the different coaching hires and what he's hearing around the league.

A.J. Hawk, obviously, and NFL Films senior coordinating producer Keith Cosgrove joins the show to chat about the new Terry Bradshaw documentary and more. Let's get right into it. Congrats to us for managing the Blizzard of 2020. Here we go. We're eating snow.

Pretty excited about that. Got a chance to run out with the dogs last night with the wife and the family out in the middle of the snow. You know, you got to really take in those

moments because you have no idea when another Blizzard like that's going to come through. A lot of snow. Not as much as they were predicting. A lot of snow.

A lot of ice. A lot of injuries, I think. Probably driving. Hope everybody is okay. Now lot of snow. A lot of ice. A lot of injuries, I think. Probably driving. Hope everybody is okay. Now we're on the other side of that. And what's on deck? Pro Bowl weekend.

Oh, yeah. Here we go. Pro Bowl weekend. I'll tell you what. If it's anything like the skill showdown we watched last night, we're in for a weekend of electricity. Also, Dan Orlovsky stumbling around the Vegas Strip drunk with the NFL Live crew. Hope they're having a blast out there.

We can't thank you enough for joining us. Smackdown tonight, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Here we go. Stay away from any Timothy McVay lines. Bingo. Go Thunder. Go Thunder. We now save it for the show. Anyways, Ty Schmidt, At Boss and Connor,

the Toxic Table is here. There's some breaking news in the NFL that we'll dive into. I'm excited to see where your guys' brains go on this particular Feel Good Friday. I appreciate you gentlemen being here. Hammer down. Cowboy at Tone Diggs is here. You guys still winning bets back there on Hammer Down or not? Yeah, last night was a decent night.

Four and two in college basketball for me. I honestly don't know how anyone else did. I only pay attention to myself. That's because you were shoveling. I was shoveling a lot last night. Tony shoveling all night last night. I realized the new house I wanted to know no shovel. Uh-oh.

Not good. Because we literally just picked up and moved into this other house because we had black mold in our old house. Because it turns out when you don't visit portions of the house for a long period of time things do happen okay good to know my fault yeah this is for you guys to learn from you should probably check out some different areas of your house if you're in there and see what goes on but we're told basically like uh both by the internet and people like you should get out of that house immediately literally got in a house four days

later still don't have most of our shit over there. Brought all the tank tops off. You had to. All the tank tops. Yeah. A couple pairs of pants. A couple shoes. No shovel, though.

Learn that quickly. It was piling up quick, and I'm hoping the sun will come back and kind of do its job at some point. But what a wild day here in Indiana. I assume most of the Midwest. After the storm I have decided I will be buying gas-powered snow. I've seen a lot of those last night. I have never seen a more satisfied dad

than when they have that goddamn snowblower and all of a sudden there comes that one storm every 10 years where it is actually needed. You get it out of the back, they dust it off. Oh yeah. Look at this. Look at this. They fucking get the gas.

Oh yeah. Pour it in. I'm going to go snow blow. Pull that thing. Pull that thing. And then they just get going. And then it feels like driving yesterday every single one we saw the person was at the end of the driveway face out you know what i mean like i'm fucking

doing yeah like i drove by a guy yesterday and nick was right behind me he was very proud of the fact that he was snowblowing his shit i mean he was he was peacocking with that thing i mean yeah it was he was walking around with that thing, letting everybody know. I assume the neighbors got to understand, too. Like, hey, this is the one dad, the one husband, the one family that was prepared for a goddamn blizzard within a mile

and a half radius here. You can borrow it, but it's a little fickle. I mean, I've used it once in the last seven years, but I know this thing better than anybody or whatever. It'll cost you. It'll be a morning guest, too, you know. That was a big day yesterday, though. Happy everybody survived.

Good to see everybody. Good to see you. Glad you guys, you know, traveled safely. Hey, you got a little sketchy. I mean, we had a pretty smooth trip, actually. Yeah, Tony almost got killed. Yeah, Tony was trying to put on a show out here. Tony was in Tokyo Drift.

There were eight lanes, and we were the only guys on it. So, I mean, when do you get that opportunity? It was a good convoy. Yeah, it was me up in the front of the convoy, and then Tony Diggs was behind, and then Nick and Zito were the trail position. Nice. Caboose.

And we're all kind of – it was. We did have like six lanes to ourselves for a certain portion of it and uh caravan try to fuck everything up yeah it was my yeah the other way yeah there was big time problems there but the uh this is my first time taking the car in the snow so i was drifting a little bit turn around i look in my rear view and tones got this thing he's he's like literally like it's a nascar warm-up lap you know and they're going back and forth it was pretty awesome to watch but we had a pretty smooth sailing oh yeah for sure one accident fucks everybody oh yeah and they were happening on the other side like on we were

looking at accidents that were happening going this way that already had service vehicles there and it was like oh thank god that isn't us but anytime that could be we made all the way we got to one point where this car had to go in reverse because he couldn't make it up this hill i had to stop on a hill yo yeah i just stopped right on the middle of a hill like this fuck this i'm going back home because there was an ultima that was trying to make it up this this hill and it it was not you know yeah so they did a full reverse thing into our lane like as we're coming down it was not, you know? Yeah. So they did a full reverse thing into our lane. Like as we're coming down the hill. Come on.

It was interesting. They made it though. Good breaks too. Pop that thing in neutral. That's right. Pop that thing in neutral. Slide down. Hey, we survived.

Hey, shout out Snow though. Here we go. Thank you, Snow. Snow's a good time. Dogs love the snow. Oh, yeah. Let the dogs get out there and run a little bit. What is it?

Because they're so hot? You think Chuck? I don't know. Probably. I think it was chuck's first time corgi first time in snow he was just literally just burying his face eating it eating it yeah it's like a big massive ice water bowl uh val stepped on something she's got a little cut on her foot yeah a little bleeding on her snow a little red snow yeah what's going on with red snow and uh it's on the snow, a little red snow. Yeah. What's going on with red snow? It's because the snow is so high, it just covered everything. Yeah. Like branches and shit below it.

I almost fell off a ledge at the front. Whoa. That's not good. Yeah, it was close. I mean, it was, and I don't know if there's enough snow to protect me on that fall on the other side, because it was cement on that side. Yeah. Yeah, I was in the shrubs. I didn't even know it.

Really? And then all of a sudden, goddamn, there was like a drop off. Yeah, I was in the I was in shrubs. I didn't even know it. Really? And then all of a sudden the goddamn there was like a drop off. Yeah, I almost died right there. Jesus. This would have been a fun little Thursday.

Be careful. That blood will attract bears. That's true. Up there. And those otters. And otters, yeah. I haven't seen an otter since the first time

Tim McAfee saw a fucking otter. So I'm starting to believe Tim McAfee didn't see an otter. Well, yeah. There's blood in the there's blood in the snow now. They'll crawl back out of their hole. Yeah, but I think Tim McAfee did't see an otter. Well, yeah, but there's blood in the snow now. They'll crawl back out of their hole. Yeah, but I think Tim McAfee did not see an otter.

What? Yeah, I'm pretty sure of it. There was actually a little snow, like dusting, was that a couple weeks ago? Yeah. And we saw some prints in the- Otter. Yeah, Tim was certain it was otter tracks, and they went down there. It was just probably a raccoon, if I had to guess.

Oh, coming for more food, the one from the old house. But the otter has, like, a body, right? You would think you would see the body or the tail, right? Yeah, in the snow, for sure. They look to slide. Yeah, and that was a conversation I was having with him within the house while we were looking down at the tracks. Like, wouldn't there be, like, a tail?

Oh, they're pretty athletic, Tim. That's true. Oh, they're pretty athletic, Tim, saying about these goddamn otters. And I guess they are, but I don't think there's any otters near us. Okay. It's also deathly cold right now. There's snow. I mean, if those guys were kind of out there just moving around,

they are probably dead by now. So I don't think you have to worry about the otters, at least until spring. That's true. These otters are gritty now. They might not even exist in our lake, but I did some research. These things got teeth. It's true. These otters are gritty. Now, they might not even exist in our lake, but I did some research. These things got teeth. Oh, yeah.

You think they're scared of a little fucking snowstorm? No, they're wearing wetsuits. All day. All the time. I'm saying, you know, six to eight inches. Hey, you're not ready for it. Through the otter? Yeah.

Those things are drowning in snow. You ever see otters at the zoo with the snows? Do they love that shit? Yeah. They're penguins. They're sliding down like the penguins. Yeah, but they're in zoos. They get their food hand-delivered to them.

Ty's right. If these things are just out there in that snow, they are dead. Let's move on. We've got Ian Rappaport joining us in nine minutes. We have some breaking news. Happy everybody's okay. We have some breaking news out of the NFL. The Jacksonville Jaguars, who we all thought had hired Byron Lefwich

to be their new head coach. Obviously, Byron Lefwich, former Jacksonville Jaguar quarterback down there in Duval County, now offensive coordinator for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, actually calling plays, doing everything like that, not just a figurehead offensive coordinator. Everybody thought with his success in the league and his success as offensive coordinator,

going to interview with the Jacksonville Jaguars, it was a done deal because Shod Khan needed to rebuild the entire culture. Now, then things starting trickling out of the conversation that Byron Lefkowitz was like, I ain't doing the Trent Bulkey thing. We ain't having Clonton stick around time for another year. That is what Byron Lefkowitz said. And allegedly Adrian

Wilson, who's in his seventh year as a scouting I don't know his title. Executive? Is he a director of pro personnel now? He was a scouting guy. Seven years in a scouting department. Adrian Wilson, former player with the Arizona Cardinals. I believe Byron and he met each other probably whenever they were out in Arizona

or I don't know if they played together, didn't do enough research. That was allegedly the big holdup. And then we never really heard anything again. All the way up until yesterday or two days ago when Byron Lefkowitz had withdrew his name from the Jacksonville Jaguar job. So does he go back to Tampa Bay? What does Tampa Bay look like next year? They're still coaching positions open.

Will Bowles go anywhere? Tom's not going back. Gronk's probably not going back. We don't know. Gronk's going to do what Gronk ever does. We just assume that he's probably not going to be back. And all of their starters on offense are all either restrictive free agents or unrestricted free agents.

And they have cap things going on. So Tampa Bay Buccaneers is not necessarily the most desirable place to be right now. But it feels like Byron Leff, which is going back there because a man who was taking a lap around town, traveling to all different training camps last season after being fired or walking out of another head coaching position in what we thought was a dumpster fire of an organization. He has a statue built of him. Ladies and gentlemen, the new head coach of Jacksonville Jaguars is Doug Peterson.

And baby Doug. Doug was able to be a quarterback in the league, then became a head coach and was able to win a Super Bowl for the Philadelphia Eagles for the first time in 51 years or something like that. I think ever. Was it their first? Yeah, I think it was their first. He did something for the first time in 51

years. I don't know what it was. Raised the Super Bowl. No, because McNabb. Yeah, I don't know. Whatever. First Super Bowl. It was the first Super Bowl for the Philadelphia Eagles. Had people eating horse shit on the streets.

That's right. Turned Philadelphia upside down. Big Richard Nick Foles became folklore because the Philly Philly call in which Doug Peterson made that call. There's a statue built life is good then all hell breaks loose Foles is gone Carson's gone Peterson's gone Peterson was coaching putting in in the fourth quarter not only was Jalen Hurts playing and Carson playing in the fourth quarter he put Indiana quarterback Nate Sudfeld Nate Sudfeld out of nowhere and

everybody thought this guy was tanking almost had fights on the sideline between leaders on that team and doug peterson who i was he fired or did they agree to go their separate ways i thought it was mutual because he didn't get fired immediately after and then they quit too like i don't know if he said fuck you i'm not doing this and they did it professionally said we mutually agree or if they said you need to get out of here whatever the case he is now the head coach in jacksonville and shod khan came out and said what doug peterson was able to do up there in philadelphia bringing them their first championship ever i hope he's able to replicate that same magic down here in jacksonville that's via john reed at john reed 64 and he he was an

offensive line pulling you see john reed coming around the corner pulling good luck just laid John Reed, 64. Ooh. And he was an offensive lineman. There you go. Poland. You see John Reed coming around the corner, Poland. Good luck. Just lay down. But also, I mean, you don't want to get straight on with John Reed. Oh, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Talk strong.

Oh, John Reed. He puts his hands in the dirt, and then when it comes up, and he gets his boom. Yeah. Yeah. That cobra. John Reed, 64, broke the news that Chad Kahn is looking for Doug Peterson to replicate the magic he had in Philadelphia down here in Jacksonville. Will that ever happen, or is that franchise cursed?

Does that team just stink naturally? We will find out. Doug Peterson, I assume, had interviewed with numerous places, quietly behind the scenes last year as he was traveling around to old friends. Probably could have picked where he wanted to go. I'm not 100% sure if everybody feels that way in the world. It felt like there was a lot of places interested in him. And immediately upon his release of Philadelphia, then he took a year off.

Congrats, I guess, to the Jaguars finding a new head coach. What does this mean, though? I have no idea what this means. Is he just going to get rid of everybody that Urban brought in? Is it a whole new thing? Are they still on the edge? Is there still a building being built? Is there still an entire city being built downtown by Shad Khan

to go around the stadium? What does this mean for all the plans that Urban Meyer and Shad had? Is Doug Peterson just picking those up? I don't think Doug Peterson's going to be a guy that's going to be like, yeah, this is what you guys want to do, so I'm going to do it because allegedly that was the entire problem between he and Howie Roseman and them over there. So what is going to happen? I guess TB was the entire problem between he and Howie Roseman and them over there. So what is going to happen?

I guess TBD, they stink as a team, though, and they knocked the Colts out of the playoffs. To hell with them all. Does this just mean that Balky's the GM? He kind of survived the whole – Because if he was in these meetings with Schott and everything, he hasn't been fired yet, so does that mean that Doug Peterson's okay

with him being the GM? Go ahead, Tony. Well, no. I had a separate. I don't know what it means for all that, but I could tell you if Doug Peterson, we saw what Doug Peterson did for Carl Wentz. Trevor Lawrence might be the greatest quarterback of all time. No, maybe they get Carl Wentz.

What? No. I'm going to leave Trevor Lawrence. No, no, no. Yeah, because Doug Peterson and Carl Wentz were able to win a Super Bowl together. Yeah, well, Doug Peterson broke Carl Wentz. I'd be very nervous if I was an Indianapolis Colts fan because now they have Carl Wentz's kryptonite standing across the side of the field

twice a year, Pat. I'd be worried. Well, we haven't been able to beat Jacksonville on the road for like 14 years. Exactly. They're the worst team. They have the first overall pick two years in a row, and we lose to them still down on a row. I don't know how that happens.

Joe Dirt put Phillip Rivers in the grave week one last year, and then the last game of the season, Clontown fucking walks away with a dub. 4.4 QBR. Very bad. That's without Doug Peterson on the sideline. Maybe he'll be inspired and motivated to beat the hell out of Doug Peterson. Maybe we'll be in a quarterback market.

This isn't about the Indianapolis Colts. I'm sorry, Connor. Back to what you said, though. So everybody thought that the things, one, you know, a ray or whatever, a rye, whatever the word is, you get it, a stray, a rye, with Doug Peterson, Philadelphia, because when they hired him, he was young and he would listen to what they said. Right?

Remember? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He came in. Hey, you listen. We'll put the players in there. You can do your little scheming and strategy, but you just listen to what we do.

Allegedly. Now, who knows what's real and what isn't real? We'll find out probably 10 years from now when bygones are bygones and time healed all wounds in this situation. But then as he got more accomplished and more successful and more comfortable as a head coach allegedly now we don't know if any of this is real allegedly he was like hey I'm gonna make some decisions now I would like to be a part of the conversation and he got like shooed out of the room is one potential reason on why it all blew up

in Philadelphia is what people have speculated not us I'm just telling you what other people have speculated there's no fucking way then just telling you what other people have speculated. There's no fucking way then he would want Balky to be in there before him, right? Because then it would be the same exact situation where this guy has literally the ear of the owner. It's the same situation that happened in Philadelphia. He's going to be the one making decisions. You're just going to have to do what you got to do.

Or unless they have it set in stone going in, like, hey, you guys are able to make decisions together but how often does that actually take place whenever you're dealing with humans giving up power not often i don't think especially if they're power hungry human beings i i just that's a fascinating situation that you mentioned and i don't know and allegedly what bulky was in the room where it happened when they're getting interviewed right and shod saying like hey what do you think this guy? So Doug in that interview, maybe just being a human,

he doesn't seem to know. He had success in San Francisco. A pond time was happening. Seems like a good guy. And Sean Conn's like, perfect. And he twists his mustache. He's like, they can get along. They can be perfect.

I don't know. I don't know how that all plays out. I'll be interested to see over the next, what, couple weeks to see how the power is kind of laid out. But once again, it's the Jaguars. The only thing they're known for is knocking the fucking Colts out of the playoffs. Do you think in the interview they asked stuff like, would you ever try to stick your fingers up

a co-ed's bum? Oh, geez. Make sure that doesn't happen again? So, have you ever been to a place called a chop house? Let's do a word association i'll mention some things you say the first thing that comes to your mind shot con's like jaguar dub pierce like fierce yeah duval county chop house never heard of that. What's that? Good, good, good. All right. Big stuff.

Higher. We'll go next. We'll go next. Finger guns. Jeff Hardy. Good, good, good. There it is. Good, good, good.

Tim Tebow. Legend. Don't like him. Super hero. Good, good, good. Okay. It seems like you're naturally much different than the previous guy we had, and that is obviously a step in the right direction i wonder if urban meyer and shod kahn's relationship will uh ever be back to what it was before you know because i doubt it yeah can't what i doubt it you don't think shod kahn's having urban

meyer to come back walk the suites walk the halls of the jacksonville jaguars well maybe 20 25 years but i think you know shod probably feels like Urban left him pretty high and dry there. And I think he's, well, I guess he didn't have to end up paying him all that money. So maybe by the time he's gone. Well, we don't know yet. That's going to litigation as well. There's a lot of litigation going on in the NFL right now, and that's one of them. He got embarrassed.

We're going to be talking about Urban Meyer's season for 20 to 25 years. No, we won't. Yeah. Even us. You don't think we're gonna reference that if you listen to how this show goes normally and it's how my brain operates so i apologize for it but i like to set a little bit of context for why something is happening so if somebody's listened to our show before they probably heard me say boom bang bang i'm trying

to set like the precedent on why things happen yeah with the jacksonville jaguars unless there's another head coaching hire which might happen i assume the urban meyer stuff even for this show which does a lot of that will probably just move along now if urban meyer gets a job on tv and he's doing some stuff it's gonna be hard not to be like urban's back on tv doing real good you remember it's gonna be hard not to be like, Irvin's back on TV doing real good. You remember. It's going to be hard not to do that. But that's what happens when you're in the NFL and Irvin Meyer experience that quick. But also, for me, I feel like if there's any terrible season

for a first-year head coach, the immediate thought will be, well, was this as bad as Irvin Meyer? Is he the new standard? Is he the worst? It feels like it. I mean, on the field, off the field, I guess. Number one overall pick. They beat the Colts without him.

Like, it feels as though forever. I mean, it was a complete PR nightmare. Urban beat the Buffalo Bills. And the Colts. And the Colts. And won in London. Dolphins, yeah, against the Dolphins in London. He didn't beat the Colts, I mean, I'm sorry.

His team, though. Yeah. You know, a team that he had to live on the edge. That's right. They're not elite. Too many people throwing word to lead around. Well, Urban, you're in a building where a company was founded literally around that word. That's right.

But he said we're going to live on the edges of a massive backfire. We were supposed to have Ian Rapport on three minutes ago. Oh, he's probably forcing his wife to shovel snow. He looks like a car mechanic under the hood. Yeah. I guess there's probably some wires that didn't add up or whatever, but that's going to happen. What do you think Peterson's where it's going to be?

You think Shad's like, well, what's our word this year? Because last year it was on the edge. Cluster fuck, because that's what this place has been. What if that's what Doug Peterson tells Shad? Right to his face. This year is going to be cluster fuck, because we're going to continue the traditions of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Speaking of continuing traditions, the Pro Bowl dodgeball is awesome.

Oh, yeah. By far. Pro Bowl dodgeball needs to be the entire weekend of the Pro Bowl. Now, I understand that it might get tiresome and we might get over it, and we'll cross that bridge whenever we get there. Not that Dutch bridge that they're taking out because of Bezos' cruise line. I can't do that. Bezos' cruise line has to get there. Not that Dutch bridge that they're taking out because of Bezos' cruise line. Bezos' cruise line has to get it.

This motherfucker bought a cruise ship and turned it into a yacht. That is what Bezos did. He's got the biggest yacht of all the yachts and he can't get into some town in Dutch. Where's that at? Netherlands. Poland.

Right near France. It's right above Belgium. Okay, perfect. That's cold as shit up there. Where is this boat? I guess that's why you get a cruise ship, so you can have plenty of... They build beautiful ships. I think it's because it's being delivered to him.

Yeah. That's why. Oh, and that's where he's staying. Yeah, that's where he's at. It has to be delivered to him. So they have to take out this old, old, old, old bridge that is probably beloved so that they can get his cruise ship down the fucking bay to him.

Hey, legend. Good for you. Baby Jeff. The bridges ain't going to like it. But anyways, we'll cross this bridge whenever we get there if the dodgeball becomes a little bit too much and boring. Sure. But I just want to let you know,

you watch the sprinting. Okay, who's the fastest man? Tyree Kill didn't try. No, he did not. No, he didn't. I don't know why he's in the race. He's not going to try. I don't know why you're in the race.

If you're Tyree Kill, why are you signing up for a race you're not going to try in, especially whenever all you talk about is being the fastest human on earth, he said. Not just in the game. In the pre-race interview, he said, not just fastest on the planet or whatever. Okay, so we need you to try in the race, then. For the good of everybody. That's right.

Need you to try. It was cold as shit. It was very cold. Obviously, it wasn't. I thought it was a little quick gun, too. A little quick trigger. I thought, so maybe Tyreek thought he was going to try. And then once the quick trigger happened, and he was already buying, I'm, so maybe Tyreek thought he was going to try, and then once the quick trigger happened and he was already buying,

I'm not going to do this. Fuck it. Nick Chubb, though, talking shit to Micah beforehand. Nick Chubb was trying. Oh, yeah. Micah is a freak show. Oh, yeah. He was trying.

I'm just here to get the bag. Yes. I'm just here to get the money. And then at the end, Justin Jefferson said, We got the trophy, and we got the bread. Okay, and that's what the skill showdown needs to continue to be. Like, hey, let's put up actual prizes for the guys. Can match that for philanthropic reasons, whatever it is.

But let's make sure there's actual things on the line for these guys to continue to try. Russell Wilson was just plucking. That was awesome. Yeah, that was absurd. Plucking out there. I think I actually heard him. Who fucking wants to come and get it? I heard Russell Wilson say, unbelievable.

I think he said go Hawks in there at 1.2. I think he, no, maybe not. I don't know if he did. Yeah. I thought while he was throwing, I heard a go Hawks. I don't know. No, it was just maybe a grunt or whatever. It's a shame.

We'll keep an eye on that situation. Matt Jones helps the fun digs in a Bills Mafia table bust. Pretty cool. They need to, if they're going to do best catch and turn it into like a dunk contest, need a stage to cover the pad. Yeah. Pad makes it look amateur.

Let's put a stage in front of it. Open stage can still have the trampoline jump in there. And let's put some fucking bombs. Let's put some fireworks behind it. Let's go ahead and do that entire thing. I like where their minds are at. Their heads are at. Some people didn't perform that great.

Some people look awesome. The production, interesting. Commentary, having the Monday Night Football crew on there. Don't know if that's their bag, baby. But it was a nice night of television. And the NHL 2K. Skills competition. No, the NHL 2K view.

Oh, my God. Where you can only view one side, and then the period changes, and then you're the other side, and then that whole thing. Can't have that for dodgeball. Dodgeball is what everybody's fucking looking forward to. Yeah. We need more cameras on dodgeball than any of the other events. There was a four-shot, basically, on the quarterback versus DB thing,

and then on the dunk thing, they had, like, four different shots. And then dodgeball, we only had one angle. Justin Jefferson makes that incredible catch. We only see the back versus DB thing. And then on the dunk thing, they had like four different shots. And then dodgeball, we only had one angle. Justin Jefferson makes that incredible catch. We only see the back of his head. I would like to see his face with a sunglass with that big-ass grill in it. It was a hell of a game, a hell of a performance. A lot of shit being talked. A lot of people trying to cheat.

I like that. Anytime you've got guys trying to cheat to win, that means they're in it. And we need to continue to grow upon that until we no longer need it and we move on to something else. With all the goddamn cameras they got over there, how did we not get one body cam in that dodgeball game? That's all you really need so you can see everything, see how it is out there.

If you had one on both teams too, all the replays they could have done, that was the most frustrating part by far was the fact that their best event, they have their worst camera and they only have one. Every other event they had different yeah and dodgeball was like yeah something had to have happened it was like freezing cold i guess maybe but it was the last event that they had going on all those other cameras we can't just wheel those over to the side you don't understand everybody you don't i don't you don't understand how hard it but it was bullshit i was wondering what the fuck's going on there as well.

Yeah, for sure. But great night, great night. Great night. Joining us now is a man that has never been in a Pro Bowl or an All-Star game in his life, but he's covered probably a lot of them. I believe he's live down at the Senior Bowl right now or maybe yesterday.

He's pumped about it, too. Collegiate Bowl. Senior Bowl? Oh, so he mailed it in. He was at the Senior Bowl. Oh, he's not even staying for. Well, he didn't want to be there, so... The host of the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and friends.

Us being the friends, he being Rap Sheet. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. Hey, Rap Sheet! What's up? What, you mailed it in on those kids? You said none of you are making it to the NFL? This a waste of my time? No, I was there for three days.

By the way, can you hear me okay or no yeah you sound amazing yeah okay i got the airpods today i cleaned them out i'm gonna make sure they're all good oh yeah because long season long season potential yeah tune up tune up you might say um i was down there from monday night to thursday night doing a little uh socializing and uh building relationships i think is the proper way to say it where you stay in bars until you know late at night talking to sources and all that um max what are you doing match your dad's telling us stories about getting all boozed up with me max come here say hello hi hey Hi. Hey, Max. Howdy, baby Max. Oh, you are much cooler than your dad.

I can already tell. I can't hear you because he has the AirPods. And you're smarter than your dad, too. Oh, that is awesome. That is awesome. Hey, it's a cool-looking kid. Congrats. Anyway, so...

Hey, have that kid shovel some fucking snow, too, every once in a while. You know what I mean? Is that your wife? I mean, they actually like to shovel snow, too, every once in a while. You know what I mean? Is there your wife? I mean, they actually like to shovel snow. They asked if they can do it, and I'm like, yeah. Here we go. Get some calluses. See you at dinner.

Hey, whenever they come up to you, those things on their palms there, those are called calluses. That's okay. Those are okay. Those are all there. Don't take them to a hospital. That's a good thing, not a bad thing. Well, I'll say in all seriousness, you're talking about calluses.

So that was Max, my oldest. He plays baseball, hits lefty, got a nice stroke. He just started wearing batting gloves. And honestly, I'm not that happy with it. I feel like you should just go au naturel, Bill, with the calluses. Oh, you want to tape his fingers too? Taping the knuckles up. That's your little Max Rappaport.

Steps up to the plate, bare-gloved. Oh, that'd be awesome. Chalk? Yeah. There you go. Chalk actually is a great idea. A little pine tar? That'd be awesome, man.

It sounds like your kid's going to be much tougher than you forever, and that's good news. That's good news. You've got to have somebody on your side. You're down at the Senior Bowl, though, networking all night, getting some exclusives, getting some relationship building. Is that what you're doing? Yeah.

And it was, you know, it was a good three or four days. And it's also kind of like it's supposed to be like a nice break of everyone just talking about the season and relaxing and talking about all the coaching hires that were made. And none of them have been made. And then Flores drops the lawsuit. And it was actually really interesting to almost get reaction in real time with everyone there just you know dying to discuss it Jude

who's this get out of here this is Jude Jude say hi hey what's up Jude hey Jude don't make it Hey, what's up? It's June. I love you, June. Hey, June.

Don't make it bad. You're drunk as dad is having fun. School's closed. It was an early day today because of the weather, so the boys were home at 11, so they've been just really helping work productivity all day. Hey, I heard that's a whole thing right now because with the institution of the Zoom classes, the snow day thing has maybe become a little bit more of a conversation because now they're

projecting potential two-hour delays or cancellations and saying, no, no, actually we're projecting Zoom days on Thursday and on Friday. Is that what's happening in real time in your house as well? It hasn't happened in our district, but the district next to us, like we had an early dismissal, but they just had a Zoom day, which I guess is better. I mean, right? I don't know.

I guess that's better. At least the kids are occupied until 3, but I don't know. Those days. You need a snow day every once in a while. You have to live. So let me get this straight. The only benefits of living in a four seasons area is that you potentially have a two-hour delay or a snow day. All the kids in the south and the west, they have this perfect weather.

They get to train all year. They get to run and play sports all year. It's the perfect weather. They get to train all year. They get to run and play sports all year. The only benefit is that maybe out of the middle of fucking nowhere, God will grant you a day off. Not anymore.

Nope. Those days are done. Unbelievable. What are we turning into? I mean, the greatest thing, I still think about that. You wake up early, and then you watch the bottom line on the local news, and you see your district come up, and you're like, oh, my God. We got a snow day. And then you call your friends on the local news. And you see your district come up and you're like, oh, my God, we got a snow day. And then you call your friends on the landline. You get the mom and you're like, can I speak to Matthew, please?

Like, we have a snow day. You know what this is about. Yeah. Listen, tell him to go outside five minutes. That's what we got some stuff to do. You can also take it into your own hands. And I would not recommend all kids do this, but you find where the superintendent lives. You take buckets of water, and you throw it on front porch or front stoop or front steps

so when they wake up in the morning to decide whether or not your school is going to have a delay, hopefully they walk out, done, cancel the day. Those are only needed to be used every once in a while when there's a big test and also make sure you get the actual superintendent's house not

neighbor's house no that's why it didn't work I think personally whenever we tried it out but still I think good in theory

like I think it's still a good idea in theory I mean I would imagine that the advent of security cameras might have made that a little bit difficult,

but you're pretty creative, so maybe. I mean, what a nice life this guy has. Jeez. Can I get these guys? Regular people have security cameras, right? Regular people. What is this guy? Oh, my God.

Now you have the thing that films your front door so you can tell when packages show up. Yeah, yeah, right. People have that, right? Yeah, you need that for these porch pirates these days, by the way. That's right. Simply safe, ring, all that stuff. All all right let's get to football please uh let's let's stick with the senior bowl and then we'll move on i know a lot of steelers fans are dialed in go ahead tone uh ian so i saw owner art rooney deuce uh was at the senior bowl looking at air all

players quarterback stuff like that is it normal for owners to be at the Senior Bowl? And which quarterback looked the best, and are they taking? It is normal for quarterbacks. I thought the same thing. And there's been a couple years, and we've seen this. I think Jimmy Haslam was down here when they had the first pick and they ended up being Baker. And there's been a couple others.

If you're going to get a quarterback, you're going to get a quarterback in the future it is so important and everyone needs to be involved everyone needs to be on board and it obviously it's also more than about just evaluation so I don't know this for sure but my guess is Art Rooney if they met with quarterbacks Art Rooney probably met with them as he should and it was also you know the Steelers do things they're sort of their own way. They are not like everyone. Mike Tomlin was on the field next to Kevin Colbert the whole time. It was absolutely pouring on Wednesday.

I was drenched. My socks were wet. I was not happy. Most coaches were in the booth, and Tomlin and Colbert were there in the absolute pouring rain watching the quarterbacks. I don't know that they're taking one, but I'm just going to go ahead and say there's a pretty good chance. And they were all in on evaluating.

Okay, so let's bounce around some of the older quarterbacks market that you could potentially see heat up. Last night, Russell Wilson put on a clinic in the skill showdown. I don't know if that was another audition to say, Hey, bring me to your team. What are you hearing out of that? Is he going to be on the move? And is it just two destinations that Russell and Sierra have agreed to go to? He does have a no trade clause. So he's not going anywhere that he doesn't want to go to. And, you know, it's amazing how smart that ended up being quarterbacks getting no trade causes because you really, same thing with Deshaun Watson, you run the show.

You know, like the team could, you know, get you to trade you for six first-round draft picks, and if you don't want to go, you're just not going. So it is a great way to have power and to have control of the situation. You know, something I mentioned a couple weeks ago on Game Day Morning, Russ wants to, he wants to know his options. I'm not saying he's definitely going to go, but he wants to look around and see.

I think if you're Seattle, it's the same problem they've had the last couple years, which is even if they get a great offer, even if they get, let's say, three first-round picks for Russell Wilson, who is going to actually be their quarterback and how quickly could they rebuild? Because Pete Carroll is 71, and he's not going to want it to be a four-year rebuild. actually be their quarterback and how quickly could they rebuild because pete carroll's 71 and he's not going to want it to be a four-year rebuild so you know i wouldn't rule out a trade but they have to have it has to be a no-brainer and they have to know the answer to the next

question as well so you're saying like call the colts take carson wentz and a couple future picks and then we get russell wilson and the Colts win the Super Bowl I think that's plausible sure not plausible not plausible I don't want people to misinterpret the sarcasm so just people will say Ian did they will actually write that in your write

the Tovid situation I get what you're saying but is that the whole tobit situation yes that was yes yeah i was getting quoted in some you know like wall street journal norwegian politicos yeah in wall street i mean i was oh that was wild that was a wild time to be alive and that was when i questioned journalism as a whole you know sometimes you gotta question the old establishment no i'm joking i'm not getting into all that shit although ian does make me question journalism often because it feels like you know everything that's going

to happen before it happens where's aaron rogers going what do you know about this because just the other day yesterday actually we put aj hawk's feet to the fire i don't know if you saw because you're probably hung over from getting all boozed up at the senior bowl late hours in mobile alabama but whenever you hear hear about Aaron Rodgers having potential property in Nashville, and maybe he's got some other interests in other places, how do you see that whole thing panning out? I know you broke the story that he stuck around after the game and talked about the future, and that's good news. I think he has done that every single year, but every single year hasn't been a year where it's being discussed that he's going to leave

the Green Bay Packers. So I guess that is good for status quo to continue to happen. How do you think that whole thing is landing right now? And what are you hearing from around the league when everybody's drunk at the Senior Bowl? Yeah, the Nashville thing was interesting because, you know, if he's buying a house, and first of all, he's 38 years old. So buying a house after he leaves Green Bay and retires or whenever he's done with the NFL, whichever team he's playing for. That makes sense.

Sounds like Nashville is quite a hot place to live. And I know that because when I was down there for the draft, I basically called my wife and said, this is the greatest place ever. We should move here. And she started looking at real estate and oh my God, she wanted to move there yesterday. But it didn't happen. So Nashville makes a lot of sense. Hey, NFL Network, can you pay this fucking guy?

I mean, geez. Anyway, Nashville's a lovely place. You walk around, there's music coming out of the bars, and everyone's drinking. I mean, they have a lot of bachelor parties there, it seems, which is not really for me, but some people like that kind of thing.

I just, I don't know that there's any material influence on anything as far as where he plays. I guess it is possible that he asked for a trade. It is possible, and I honestly do not know what he's going to do. I look around, and I look at the various situations around the league, and there's not that many that are better for him than green bay like i know they lost this year and that sucked but like they had a good team and they really have a great personnel situation assuming davante comes back and they'll probably tag him so he could look around i mean denver would be good for instance but he really does have a great situation green bay okay you

don't have to try to sell him through our show on what he should be doing let's just talk about things that could happen because maybe it's not just about the situation maybe it's like you know i actually do want to go experience something different this has been like this for so long i feel like i've done a lot for these people not that they haven't done a lot for me but maybe i want to go elsewhere what are some places you think that would be in there everywhere right carolina denver indianapolis would tennessee be on the list for that would the steelers be on the list for that would tampa be on the list for that like who do there's a lot of quarterback needed teams right and jimmy g's gonna be out there now we're hearing all right so let's go through them so saints dealers the steelers are the obviously a team

that needs a quarterback it would be very unaler-like to trade a lot of draft capital for a quarterback. Not impossible. It just would be against everything they've done. And Kevin Colbert is an outgoing GM, and his mission is to find the next Roethlisberger, to find their franchise quarterback. So I would be a little surprised if they did it. The Titans could do it.

They would take a big cap hit, but I can't pretend that that's something that would make it prohibitive. That doesn't – it would be hard. I think it would be $28 million cap hit. $27.5 million. Would it? Yeah, $27.5 million. I think we have a full graphic actually.

Yeah, there it is. There you go. So they could do it. Baby dirty. I remember thinking last year that the Rams could never trade Goff because the cap hit was too bad. And then they just did it and dealt with it, got Stafford, paid for him, and just made it work. Like, these guys are so good, they could make it work.

Yeah. And salary cap gymnastics is a new talent in the NFL. But remember, when Goff got traded to Detroit, people said Detroit won that trade. Hell yeah. I just want to let everybody know. Everybody said that at the time. That was something that was said, oh, they— And they still might.

We just don't—they just got a draft. Rams are in a's i would agree with that you're right that's you train for so when you get to the super bowl that's a win you're right that you want all in now granted if they don't win one i guess we can have the full conversation in like three four years but immediate boom here we are we're in the super bowl we did what we tried to do but the 27 and a million, all those teams are up on that graphic there. Are those most, and I guess the Panthers could be added in there as well. Is there any teams that we're not thinking about, maybe that are in the quarterback market, maybe not just for Aaron, but for Jimmy G or Russ or if Deshaun,

who has a lot that has to happen off the field, obviously, get figured out. Is there more than we think or project? Yes, a couple you missed there. The Saints are going to be in for a quarterback, and I would think they would swing pretty big. They always kind of swing big. $71 million over the cap. Eric Bien-Ami is interviewing with them, what, today or tomorrow?

They're $71 million over the cap. That doesn't matter. I mean, it matters. cap and that doesn't matter i mean it matters but everything they can they have like the best the best cap gymnast uh in the nfl and kai harley um they could manage it they've been managing it for years they'll push into the future they have the saints if they want to swing big for a quarterback could definitely do it uh the bucks options, um, because they could just, you know, they could stay home and not sign a quarterback or they could sign Aaron Rodgers or anything in between. I mean, one thing that they've shown is that they are a good destination for a veteran

quarterback and might want to come in and win the Superbowl. I mean, that's, they are a ready-made team. So I think those two, I don't think the Texans would be a big free agent quarterback destination. They have some questions, but I don't think they, so I think it's really just the Saints and then the Bucs. And the Panthers. And the Panthers, sorry. And the Panthers. Go ahead, Connor.

Yeah, rap sheet. Gun to your head. Bill O'Brien or Adam Gase is the next OC of the New England Patriots. Here we go. I think both are possibilities. It's weird to me that people ridicule Gase. I just, and like, I like him, so this is not, I mean, this is really not just me sticking up for somebody

that I happen to like. He took the Dobbins to the playoffs, and they haven't been, barely were before or since. And it didn't work out with the Jets, and they had no talent, and Sam Darnold is what he is, so I don't think that was, I don't think that was his fault. I think as an offensive coordinator, he would be good and it would revitalize his career.

And I don't think he'll ever be a head coach again, but I think he could be a viable offensive coordinator with the Patriots. With Bill O'Brien, it sounds like there's some interest on both sides. He has a big personality. New England has liked him in the past and helped create him. T-Pot Bill. That'll be interesting. T-Pot Bill.

Would he want to leave Alabama? Do you have any people in his camp? Has he enjoyed his time in Alabama? He likes Alabama. It's warm. What he wants. And it's great. I live in Tuscaloosa.

It's cool. College towns are great. He has a family situation where his son needs really good medical care so moving you know they have great hospitals in boston but moving would be hard but not impossible so i don't know that it's a slam dunk that bill o'brien goes we don't know if boston's master yeah master general mga general i don't need you tied into that place one of the best in the, one of the best hospitals in the world. I don't need you to chide into that place. One of the best in the world. One of the best in the world, obviously.

So whenever you say the best, though, that isn't like one of the best. Best in the United States. Best hospital in the United States up there? Mass General Hospital, oh, yeah. Really? Oh, yeah. Really? So who?

Harvard and MIT. It's a pipeline. What does that mean? Two of the best institutions in the country. Are they? In the top five list, they're number four. Okay. In America or in the world?

In America. Okay. Who's number one? Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota. Oh, Minnesota. That's a biased list. What is happening here? That's from Minnesota.com.

He's searching it right now. I see John Hopkins is pretty high on that list. John Hopkins is number three. Oh, they're above Matt Shenron. Well, that's because they just signed Dr. Carpenter. I mean, there's no ads off to JSU. Hey, General Dr. Carpenter. Yeah, hey.

He's coming through Johns Hopkins. Yeah, that makes sense. Go ahead, Ty. Rapji, what the hell ended up happening in Minnesota? I know when you came on a couple weeks ago, you basically said that you didn't think Harbaugh to the Raiders was realistic, but we hadn't heard Kevin O'Connell's name once leading up to the process. So when did you kind of realize that he was going to be the head coach

and what the hell happened with Harbaugh? And are you kind of not doing your job for all of us? No. Unfair. Took you through the runaround. That was a fair question. It was a follow-up, but it was a fair follow-up. So here's what happened with Minnesota.

So Harbaugh, it is interesting to watch how the media covers Harbaugh, and I don't talk to him. I don't know who he talks to. It's almost like he had gotten the job before he went to interview, and I'm trying to talk to people, and people doing the hiring aren't always transparent with reporters for obvious reasons. But I thought it was crazy because I'm like like maybe i'm just misunderstanding and this is all fake and

he's just going to get there and it's going to be a coronation and he's just going to get it um and i don't know um so it's uh i was talking to people as a so what the official hire was wednesday right yeah wednesday I was talking to people on Tuesday afternoon that were saying Kevin O'Connell was the favorite. Meanwhile, I'm reading everything that Harbaugh's the favorite. I'm like, something doesn't make sense. Harbaugh's people are playing people? Harbaugh learns that... What's that? You think Harbaugh's

people are playing people, including Harbaugh, telling Harbaugh he has a job? You think his people told him that he had that job, just like they were telling everybody else? And how would that happen? Possible. It might be just, just honestly it might be him like he seems like someone who'd be in control of his own message i don't know who was talking to people but i just know he was interviewing for the job and i think he thought he was just getting the job and when he learned he wasn't getting it that's when he was like all right this is this is not for me i'm gonna go back to michigan and you know i think ke think Kevin O'Connell was the guy really throughout.

And had he not been hired there, some other teams were pretty interested in him also. How do we not hear his name? You're not allowed to report his name? Or did you let us all down? Or that was the fallout? No, I mean, we knew that he was interviewing with Minnesota. We didn't.

And I talked about on Sunday morning, by the way, that the Jaguars had him very high on the list, but his team kept winning. There's only so far it can advance when your team keeps winning it. It stops things a little bit. So you're saying it's our fault for not listening to Game Day Morning.

It's a good show. It's a good show. You guys had 400 people. It was on the internet. What's that? The article was on the internet. Do I have to click a link and go to it? Well, the headline kind of summed it up. It said, like, you know, Kevin O'Connell has emerged. Like, has emerged. What, you put that on, like, 6 a.m.?

5 a.m.? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I normally check that. I thought this week was. Yeah, that's your thing. That's your thing, too. I thought this week was the Aaron Stuckground and Green Bay. Was that two weeks ago?

No, that was this week. Also, I had multiple. Oh, so you buried the leak. You buried the leak. Bingo. That's in that journalism? Figure it out. I mean, look.

All you got to do, you click the link, and then the story's right there, and then you just read the story. It's not even that long. I'm not doing that. What are we even talking about? I guess Twitter's opening up, by the way. You'll be able to write entire blogs on Twitter, I guess. But that's not Twitter.

Seriously? That's not Twitter. My Twitter's 140 characters. up, by the way. You'll be able to write entire blogs on Twitter, I guess. But that's not Twitter. Seriously? That's not Twitter. My Twitter's 140 characters. Yeah, that's right. And you actually have to copy and paste somebody's tweet, put it into your tweet, and put RT with a colon, I guess. And then you have to give your stuff. That's my Twitter. Michael Cole.

So this new Twitter is just an absolute 280. It's already too long. That's a lot. Now it's about to become an entire blog, which is probably good for you, right? Because people actually read these articles that you put out that you normally have to click a link and nobody ever does, right? TLDR. They read the articles, by the way. And also, I don't want to blog in Twitter.

How much time do I have to read? Just give me the 280 characters. That's enough. Let me move on to the next 280 characters. What's the next big news that comes, you think, in our world? I would assume it would be a coaching hire. So the Texans still have not announced. Have not announced, but they have hired?

Hold on, hold on. They already have their person? They just haven't announced? I don't know. Flores is a finalist. Gannon is I don't know. Flores is finalist. Gannon is a finalist. McCown is a finalist. So I think it'll be one of those three.

And, you know, could it be Flores theoretically? Maybe it could. He is a great football coach, so they could just say, you know what? We're just going to hire a great football coach. Probably implausible, but I think it'll be kind of cool. And then we don't know the the saints are still interviewing they got the enemy saturday the dolphins are interviewing today and tomorrow so presumably this weekend they'll have a decision as well okay we'll keep

an eye out we appreciate you so much for joining us ian on this beautiful feel good friday in which your kids are home from school uh hold on one sec you guys gonna be in la yeah are you yeah yeah but you nfl network folks i heard on a radio row you guys going to be in L.A.? Yeah, are you? Yeah. Yeah, but you NFL Network folks, I heard on Radio Row, you guys are in your own little village. We are, but maybe we'll see if we can wear something else. Oh! I'd be coming to live.

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in ohio he's a college football national champion a super bowl champion a rider cup champion and a covid survivor ladies and gentlemen aaron james hall good chuck berry shirt on you today have a good feel good friday listen to some music watch a little porn what's going on dude what do you got going on? Who's watching? Why are you watching porn? That's why you're wearing the Chuck Berry shirt. That has nothing to do with pornographic material, and you know that. I know you're a big music fan. Did he like, did Chuck like porn?

I don't know. I just loved his music. But what's going on? Hey, good afternoon, fellas. Hey, good afternoon. Good afternoon. Good afternoon to you, AJ. What do you got going on, pal?

Nothing, man. Just digging out of this snowstorm, probably like everybody else you're talking to. It to still snowing over there it stopped over here this uh earlier today and it feels like it's going to be done for some time but it is cold as shit so i assume there's going to be some black ice on the roads as well keep your eyes out aj what do you got in ohio i will yeah well i mean snowed like 15 16 inches something like that ice underneath so yeah it's been fun though kids been out in the yard and we've been running around the snow what. What do you have? John Deere tractors out there pushing and piling that thing? Or you got one of them gas snowmobiles that we've seen last night?

You can only use it once every seven years, but whenever you use it, you're the fucking cock of the walk dog. I don't have that particular model. I have like a Z-track John Deere zero-turn motor. So I got a plow that I put on front of it. It's not perfect, but it does

the work. How many times were you out there last night and since you are on daddy daycare, were you just like, hey, we're having a snow day. Everybody outside six, seven hours. Is that what's going on? I mean, yeah. What do you think is going on right now? What do you think is happening? Free range children right now. So it's good. They know what to do. The older ones

can help the younger ones. They know what to do and what not to do. Of course, they're hawks. Yeah, they definitely know what not to do. That doesn't mean they're not going to do it, but they know what to do they're the older ones can help the younger ones they know what to do and what not to do of course they're hawks yeah they know what they definitely know what not to do that doesn't mean they're not going to do it but they know this is not what i'm supposed to do a couple little raging hawks out there k jackson that kid is on the loose right now yeah mine's like mine i have a black um plow that didn't like that looks like it came with the john deere i bought mine afterwards oh aftermarket wow you put afterwards chains on the tire on a backer no i actually have them i'm i'm uh attempting to get those dang things on that's not as easy as it looks well the thing about it is by the time you get them on the snow is already done right you only got like one storm you really need this each year

you know you i feel like back in the day when i was a kid more snow yeah a lot more well that's because we've been walking on earth pushing it down closer to the core so it's been hotter in the society that we've been in so less snow maybe that's it also snows more in in pittsburgh yeah i was gonna say in michigan i feel like we get like six of these a year oh yeah out here in indiana it says you get one good area and it was very dry snow out here too last night i was trying to pack a good snowball couldn't even do it bad snow it's heavy it was heavy and non-packing so it wasn't great yeah it was like the worst type of snow shuts down the entire city and you can't even pelt anybody with i mean what do we build a snowman well you gotta dump water on it but that's another whole another recipe i guess you gotta add in there

whatever the case we appreciate you for joining us and allowing your kids just to terrorize all of columbus ohio hopefully uncle wexner doesn't get a hold of him that is obviously something we you for joining us and allowing your kids just to terrorize all of Columbus, Ohio. Hopefully, Uncle Wexner doesn't get a hold of him. That is obviously something we do not want ever. Let's talk about some of the news of the day, AJ. So many inside situations happening on this show at all times. Now, everybody knows about that one. Yeah, inside. Uncle, yeah, I mean. That one's just, oh, okay. I was going to say, that's on top of a stadium.

Right. Oh, yeah. It's on a couple of. Every building on campus. Everybody knows what old Uncle Wax is. Campus babysitting. Anyways, Jacksonville has hired Doug Peterson after being away from the NFL for a little bit. He obviously ended his reign in Philadelphia in interesting fashion.

We don't know if he walked out. They fired him. But they agreed to mutually part ways. Whatever the case, they thought he was tanking at the end of the year. He and Carson Wentz, or he and Nick Foles had a goddamn statue built upon them. They're both gone. He and Carson Wentz were supposed to be a dynamic duo. They picked Carson over Nick Foles. They broke up. Everything has kind of been blown up in that Eagles organization. I had no idea what Doug Peterson was going to do, former quarterback in the NFL.

Now he's back in Jacksonville. Shad Khan's excited, hoping that Doug Peterson can replicate the magic he did in Philadelphia to bring them their first championship and can do the same down in Jacksonville. Do you see that happening, and what do you think about the hire? I mean, it's not an easy thing to do, take over the Jacksonville Jaguars

and try to take them to the playoffs. We know. What year was that when they made the run of the AFC championship? Yeah, 17. 2017, okay. And that was – people didn't even respect them then, I feel like. Hackett was the offensive coordinator. Yeah.

Yeah, and even people still, like, felt like, oh, they're lucky to be here. I'm like, well, you're still in the AFC championship. It's pretty good. Like, you're not a bad team by any means. But this is what happens, isn't it, where you go from a guy like Urban Meyer who's known as like a hard driving like college guy that wants to be like make sure okay this is like you know no easy days whatever and then you go to doug peterson and we've seen like you always talk

about when they're eating ice cream the night before the super bowl right like how laid back and how much fun they're having like he seems to find a great balance of holding this guy's accountable but also like letting them be individuals and enjoy themselves so i don't know seems like good hire i know you're on a box of cereal with one of the guys who's working in that building right now have they been told anything about what the future looks like in your knowledge you probably haven't asked them but if you have and it's come up in conversation what do you think that building looks like and what about bulky are still being there because i thought the issue in ph, once again, we did not report this. This is just what was being alleged about the situation.

Doug Peterson was hired because he was young and they could tell him what to do, allegedly. Then as he continued to grow and get better as a head coach, he wanted more saying things. And allegedly, the Philadelphia Eagles, Howie Roseman and them, didn't want to do that. So then it ended up being a kaboom situation where Doug Peterson wasn't getting enough respect, I think.

He thought this is just all alleged. It could be much different than how we are perceiving it right now I don't want to I don't want anybody in Philly any of the Johns in Philadelphia to think that I'm the one making this up but now that Balky's already there the GM's already there he's been there for some time you would assume that he has the ear of the owner right because they've been around a lot longer and Sean Conn has openly publicly said that Trent Balky's our guy even though Clonton's happening with our fans they hate this fucking guy doug peterson wouldn't sign just up for another situation like he had in philly right there's probably going to be some turnover here in the next couple weeks as these staffs get assembled and building kind of gets

figured out do you think that or you think i'm wrong in thinking that no there's definitely gonna be i mean peterson's gonna want to bring in his own guys and you're talking about i actually meant to reach out to anthony schleg, who's the head strength coach down there. He came down there with Urban. I think he's kind of in limbo. Like, isn't the whole staff probably there? And a lot of times the new head coach will come in and at least talk to the old staff or maybe retain a few of them.

I don't know what he's going to do. I hope Schlegel gets to stay there. I hope Peterson keeps him. But usually head coaches have kind of their strength guys that travel with them. Well, and then also, I mean, at the Colts, we had our assistant strength guys stayed. And then new head guy came in, basically. So it was interesting. Like Richard Howell, who's been with the Colts, I think, for like 25 years at this point,

is the assistant strength coach there. He might be one of the heads now because he brought somebody. I don't know how it works. But some positions, it feels like they do carry over over regardless of regime. And sometimes strength coach can be that way. But also to your point, anytime a guy gets a gig, you assume that he's envisioned what he would like his team to look like. He's envisioned what he would like his staff to look like, especially after a year away from the game and traveling around training camp to training camp, meeting people, getting a chance to watch it from a different perspective.

You would think that Doug Peterson would want to come in and have some say in some stuff because he is an accomplished coach from the past. He had a chance to kind of hit the reset button. What does that mean for Balky? I think all of Jacksonville still wonders. Well, do they? I just wonder if he and Balky have a previous relationship. Have they been?

Have they worked together? Do they know each other? I would assume Shad Khan has to feel pretty comfortable with those two in the room to actually hire him. Well, that's what I'm saying. You've got to remember that whenever Shad Khan was interviewing Doug Peterson, he had Balki in the room. And what did Shad say and what did Peterson say? He basically said, hey, like Doug, Trent Balki, what do you think of him? Great guy, right?

And what did Doug say? Yeah, fuck it. He looks fineke, what do you think of him? Great guy, right? Love this guy. And what did Doug say? Yeah, fuck it. He looks fine. I think I can work with him. All right. Sounds good. He wants a job?

That's potentially what happened. You know? And also. They leaked that footage like they did with Hackett and the Broncos? The boy's been doing some deep dive research. I don't know if you guys want to give up your sources. No. Not at Liberty at this time.

Yeah. It's good journalism from Talks to Time. But he also, Doug Pearson also probably said, yeah, it's cool, whatever. How much are you paying me? Am I a head coach again? Am I in the NFL? I don't have to deal with any of the bullshit. Are you guys still building all those buildings that you and Urban put together?

Are we still building this entire place up? Cool, cool, that's what we'll do. Do I have Trevor Lawrence to work with, too? Like, that's a big part of it. Is there two pools in a stadium? All right, I'm in. All right, let's do it. But that whole, if they win, they'll be good.

If not, it'll be terrible. I mean, that's just every situation. It's impossible to judge before it even starts. Eric Biennemi interviewing with the Saints tomorrow. Houston Texans allegedly going to make their decision this weekend is what Ian Rappaport has projected or predicted. And, you know, whenever it comes to the Texans, everybody just assumes that's Josh McCann.

But Brian Flores is also a finalist there. The Saints, Eric Biennemi, and I think others are interviewing down there. The Dolphins, what the hell's going on with the Dolphins? You guys have, maybe it is Raheem coming out of the Super Bowl, just like Kevin O'Connell. We haven't heard anything. Have you heard anything out of the Dolphins camp?

No, it's just clear that they always had a plan, like they always do. They were ready for this. They didn't, you know, smart. It's absolutely brilliant. Good left. It's a trash franchise. Raheem would be sweet.

Raheem would be awesome down in Miami, I think. Raheem would be awesome. And that might be why it's so quiet, because they haven't been able to chat with him, just like the Kevin O'Connell thing. I believe Rap Sheet tweeted that Mike McDaniel has an interview on Saturday and that they're kind of zeroing in on him a little bit. I do think it will be him. It would make sense. Flores was defensive

coach. They did. They had it before everybody else. They had it all right, too, whenever they reported it. They had it all right whenever they reported it. That's going to be an interesting situation to follow as well. I mean, this morning, the enemy was being talked about on TV,

and they were showing video of Flores. So, like, you know, yeah, it's interesting how everybody, you know, I just hope the fucking right shit happens. Yeah. You know, I hope all the right shit. I honestly believe that. There's a lot of lawsuits coming at the NFL right now, and that class action suit led

by Brian Flores is going to be that's going to be a big one the hundred thousand dollar thing is huge the hiring process obviously massive the NFL has already admitted fault at that basically years ago when they put in the Rooney rule and then they followed up on it so that's going to be obviously a massive conversation and I have no idea what the right answer is there i'm i have no clue what the right answer is there i'm assuming that the people filing the lawsuit have ideas and the nfl may be able to figure that out the hundred thousand dollar bonus for losing games though from the owner with cameron wolf who works at the nfl network saying he has found other witnesses that can clarify or or whatever the um what's that called confirm confirm this

entire story i mean that's going to be big especially with the sports gambling thing i mean sports gambling the caesars i guess is going to have a super bowl ad seven million dollars for a 30 second ad is what mbc is high are charging right now so conversation around the office from bruce brown uh those commercials are going to look like crypto, crypto, sportsbook, crypto, crypto, Doritos, sportsbook, crypto. I mean, that's a lot of money. $7 million for 30-second ads on the NBC right now. I mean, that's – hopefully, yeah.

Hopefully, we get some good beer commercials out of it maybe. Well, with the New York gambling numbers, I'm sure there's going to be much more sports books jumping in there, too. Here is the handle from New York in the last 20-some days or whatever. It's like $1.8 billion or something like that, which cracks the New Jersey record of $1.3 billion. The handle is more by $500 million than the next highest. Everybody knew that the New York rollout was going to be huge, was going to be massive. $1.8 billion handle in

one month or less than one month. What does that mean? Yeah, 1.6, sorry. What does it mean handle exactly? Yeah, so there's differentiating between revenue. Handle is just total amount of bets taken in, I believe. Handle is the amount of bets. And then there's obviously the juice, and then there's revenue, and then there's how much New York is getting, which is like 51% of revenue, I believe. So that big number there, we have no idea how much each sports book actually saw

from the $1.6 billion in one month, but we can assume it's pretty good. Yeah. Even though I hit two same-game parlays. That was pretty good, too. I hit two same-game parlays on Championship Sunday where there was a lot of money on the line. That was only $16 million.

I just got only $16 million. Yeah, but the Super Bowl won. It's going big. Hey, I'm stacking a same-game parlay already in my head that's going to hit, and I can't wait to see what we're going to go. We're going to go Super Bowl. A lot of people getting their final bets of the season in. Let's go ahead and take them for everything they got.

Finally got hot. Now is the time. We need to break these sons of bitches at FanDuel. What were you going to say, Tone? For the revenue and the handle or whatever, I remember when Jersey was like $1.3 or $1 billion, the revenue was like $80 or $90 million, something like that. So like of a billion dollars bet,

they made like $80 or $90 million on revenue or something like that. So there's also a real, I don't know, I guess it is not that big of margins in the entire thing. They pay a huge amount of all their money out, right? Like to the state, like all the taxes. I know, what state was it saying it would bring in like 250 mil a year? You guys said that, right? I would assume it was New York.

No, I don't know if it's 250 million. Going to a fund or whatever. You guys posted on the site. Oh, that's for Florida. Yeah, the projected amount. So it would be more in New York then because New York has more people. It would be way more, yeah. But I think these numbers getting out there and the revenue coming in,

this will hopefully get other states to open this thing up. And listen, we can let the losers lose. We win around here. Oh, yeah. Isn't that right, AJ? Absolutely. Every time, right? Well, not me.

No, me. No, no, no. Hammer Don does, though. Well, Super Bowl. Last year's Super Bowl, I remember that same game. I had a $25,000 same game parlay last year. I still lost five grand because I put 30 grand on the coin toss. I remember that. I'm about 100 grand because I put 30 grand on the coin toss. I remember that.

I'm going to bet 100 grand live this year. Hell yeah. Damn. On one or total? No. I'm going to bet, obviously, the coin toss. I'll probably have the same game parlay that we're going, and then a bunch of live bets.

We're going to be live betting this thing. Let's get it all in, those four quarters. It's all we got until next season. I've been meaning to tell the office, if you like something right now, put it in before we go to California because... Yes. That's a very good point. I already thought about that. We will be

back, though. We will be back by the Super Bowl. There you go. We got a big time of... Has that been announced? I don't know. You probably can. No, I don't know if I'm like that. There's a lot of other people involved. A lot of really smart people. What?

Is AJ a part of it? You wouldn't get it, dude. AJ is part of it. He knows about it. I'm not part of it. You are a part of it. You bringing cigars? What are we talking about?

Stuff. Los Angeles. What are we talking about? Los Angeles. You bringing cigars out there? I don't know. Most likely. Yeah, I mean, if he doesn't bring cigars. Why are you so defensive? Los Angeles. You bringing cigars out there? I don't know. Most likely. Yeah, I mean, if he doesn't bring cigars.

Why are you so defensive, dude? What's your problem? I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. I understand you walk around with a turkey bag of cigars. Yeah. Tone just asked if you were bringing them, because I think that was Tone saying, hey, we smoking cigars together. And you said, no.

I thought he meant like, I started thinking, oh, are talking about? Some kind of event where cigars will be smoked. What are we talking about? I believe it's possible. Okay. Yeah, I'll have a zip lock bag full most likely. You don't say. If this guy doesn't bring cigars, he'll tear apart wherever the hell he's staying. Yeah, you're right.

That's how he keeps it calm. He can't have that. He keeps it calm. Let's go to some phone calls here. I'll tell you what. It'll be nice to smoke a cigar outdoors. Yeah. It's been a while for me. Yeah,... I'll tell you what. It'll be nice to smoke a cigar outdoors. Yeah. It's been a while for me.

Yeah, normally you're just in that attic just taking it all in. You guys have a sweet rooftop, too. Oh. I'll be smoking cigars, too. Hell yeah. We're at the palace. Yeah. They're going to look like pre-rolls, but they're just cigars.

That's all. Maybe get some Khalifa Kush over there, too. What's that? Yeah. It's marijuana. It's marijuana. Maybe get some Khalifa Kush over there, too. What's that? It's marijuana. It's marijuana. Snoop Dogg stuff, too. Oh, Snoop Dogg's got some stuff? Ricky Williams got some stuff?

Heisman? We should be trying to smoke everybody's stuff while we're in the very legal state of California. Seth Rogen's? Well, he just charges $700 for a charger. Yeah, but that's how I was playing charger. I mean, come on. It's a car charger, but in your house. Bro, he put a car lighter

in a block, charged $700 to people, and we got one person who bought it. I assume a lot of people did. That is the biggest waste of money I've ever seen. I thought he makes ashtrays. Then he sculpted them himself. That's a different thing, and that is also $2,000. Jeez Louise. I do like the water

bong, though, that Wiz shows in his thing where he flips that thing around. That seems to be quite a weapon. Yeah. Wiz is making real stuff. Seth's trying to steal money from people. Although, I do enjoy Seth's last shirt. Who does?

He's making some pretty cool bosses. Yeah, he does have good bosses. That charger fucking car thing. Oh, yeah. Can we bring that with us? The charger car thing? Yeah. Maybe toss it in the ocean. Yeah.

Bruce has to be so upset. Oh, yeah. Well, and we tried to tell him, like, hey, rubes like you are why they're going to keep making this thing, because this thing is going to stink when you do. It's only $400. Yeah. Nice.

Great investment. Look at this. It's called a Bic. Let's go. This thing was $199. It actually came in a five-pack. Yeah. Different colors, too.

And it's portable, and you don't need to plug it in, and it doesn't take 20 minutes to warm up. But have fun. But hey, I'm happy you spent $400 on it. There's only a few going to be made, we assume. Wait, you mean like a cigarette lighter plug? Yes. In the middle of a box.

Yeah, well, I think it has to be here because Bruce won't take that home because he doesn't want to look at it. The thing weighs 400 pounds, too. Yeah, it's a dollar per pound. Is it meant to be like, hey, this is a throwback piece of machinery I have here? I think it was supposed to be like kind of a fun nostalgia thing. But 400 bucks, the nostalgia is where my money goes.

Careful. It's a sponsor here, dude. Oh, it's tiny. Wait. Can I see the top? Yeah. It's caught. Pull that out.

No, no. You just charge it. Oh, it's legit. Just the the top? Yeah. Pull that out. No, no, you just charge it. Oh, it's legit, just the actual lighter. Yeah, dude. That is it. I haven't seen one of those in a while. I think that's what Seth was banking on. Does it work, though? You have to plug that in, though.

Yeah, you have to plug this in. The cable's only four inches, too. Yeah, and you plug it into a wall. I'm not really sure. $400. What a hustle. You don't have one of those in your truck, AJ? I guess that's a...

Is it considered art? Yeah, partially. Because it's granite. Art deco, probably. It is very nice. It is very nice. Whoa. Yeah, I get that.

If I start smoking cigs in my car, I'll get one. You should. You should. It's a very good pastime. I'll tell you, I don't know if this desk has enough room for get one. You should. You should. It's a very good pastime. I'll tell you, I don't know if this desk has enough room for this one. Yeah, you got it. Yeah. Yeah, pop that sucker up.

It is right here. All right. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Steep. Let's see when it pops up. Well, it's not probably dead. It might stay. It'll still.

That's why I'm waiting to stare at it. 40 minutes later. Everyone, Ace Ventura threw one out of a monster truck into a guy's lap. Let's go to the phones. Steven in Massachusetts, what's going on, bub? Hey, Pat, what's going on, man? Hey, just hanging, man. How are you?

I'm doing good, man. I just want to thank you guys for keep putting me in the promo, dude, because that clip of me calling in last time man this is steven it's definitely raven steven so you're the steven nashville massachusetts you're moving around no no no so what happened was when i called in i was trying to say massachusetts i was trying to say massachusetts and uh i went to not end up becoming in uh nashville oh so you've been in massachusetts this entire time. Nashville was just a misunderstanding between you and Mitt.

Yeah, yeah. You could have said it wasn't you then. They could have said that it was somebody else that was Steven in Nashville. You're Steven in Massachusetts. But I like the fact that you're like, no. Well, yeah, that's why I was saying when I was talking to you guys, I thought you guys were talking to the other guy. It's because I thought that somebody from Nashville called in. Okay, okay.

I can understand it a lot more, obviously. Here we are on the 5RNG phone line with Steven in Nashville in Massachusetts. Here we go. Steven, what do you want to talk about today, bub? So I just wanted to talk about the Patriots might be interested in signing Adam Gase. And my first thought was you guys remember when he signed up with the Jets? I know you guys were talking

about guys beyond the stuff. That was definitely a bad press conference. Now, if things go wrong on the sidelines, I get to see Bill Belichick doing all those weird faces and then you get Adam Gase doing all those eyeball moves and stuff.

Yeah, that'd be awesome, Steve, in Nashville, Massachusetts. Thank you, man. He's got energy. We had one. No, we did not. We should not have done that to him. He's been through enough. He said thank you.

He said thank you for putting him in the promo. Yeah, but you're the one who always goes, why are you bullying this guy? Why would you ever call into this show is what you said until he real like i realized steven loves being part of it well that's the thing he's steven in massachusetts and we clearly said steven in nashville so he could have said it wasn't him if he didn't enjoy it i guess but boy at the time whenever he said don't do this to me man yeah really come on that hit me in That hit me. Did you watch the skill showdown last night from the Pro Bowl? It was quite an interesting thing.

I saw little bits here and there. It looked like it was pretty cold. I know Micah Parsons is very fast and very jacked. But yeah, these guys are talented players. I mean, they had different players hosting it, right? I saw Cam Jordan doing a little bit. Just one, actually. Oh, I thought of JJ.

I thought I saw a clip of JJ doing something. What is your problem? So we will talk about Cam Jordan doing a little bit. Just one, actually. Oh, I thought of JJ. I thought I saw a clip of JJ doing something. What is your problem? So we will talk about Cam Jordan as a host. I don't know if he was necessarily built for the role that he was in or told what he was supposed to do. I'm not 100% sure, but I like the energy that he brought. I enjoyed the scoring system on the greatest catch or the whole adding that in there like it's a dunk contest.

I guess it's out of 100. You can't go any more than 100. Can't go any less than 100. Cam Jordan, friend of the show, think he got thrown into a spot he didn't necessarily know where he was, and it was cold as hell. Why can't we just have that thing in Hawaii, and let's go ahead and, you know, let's do it.

Let's go to Hawaii. Let's put these skill showdown-type things together. Let's offer up real money so Tyreek hill does want to run in that thing it was a quick gun i don't think tyreek hill knew what he was doing chubb was really going for it micah is a grown ass man a couple incredible catches mac jones looked good russell wilson put on a clinic kurt cousins throwing the ball hard yeah throwing the ball hard but the dodgeball the most important part of the entire show was was shot from one angle. It was just one drone shot. You see this photo here.

This is much closer than the coverage got last night by a mile. Yep. But I enjoyed it. I liked it. I liked the fact that they did give away money to the winners. You heard Justin Jefferson say, hey, we got this trophy,

big grill in, sunglasses on, and we got this bread, right? And everybody said, yeah, we got this bread. I grill in, sunglasses on, and we got this bread, right? And everybody said, yeah, we got this bread. I like that. Let's take it to Hawaii. Let's up the amount of money we're winning and giving away, and let's make this thing like the old school NFL quarterback challenge and skills showdown.

We were watching Debo Samuel's stories this morning. Do you think that prize money, how long do you think that lasted in Vegas last night? Straight to the bar. Yeah. Straight to the bar. Last. Straight to the bar. Last night was probably epic in Vegas. Every night, I assume, is epic in Vegas.

But those boys getting able to run around with a little extra pocket change, I mean, that is... Where are they staying? Do you know? I'm not sure. I know Dan was roaming around drunk all over. Orlovsky was roaming around drunk all over the place. Was he really? Oh, yeah. Wait, was he filming himself do this? Well, not just him.

It was Mina, Laura, Swag. We were watching him take a little tour around Vegas, and Dan's eyes just got more and more. I don't think I should be doing this. The rest of the whole way. It was on the internet. It was a fun little story last night, actually. I'm going to go check that out.

By the way, I would like our crew to like each other as much as that NFL Live crew likes each other. They got that it factor. Hey, you know that camaraderie thing we talked about? That NFL Live crew is all the way, and it was fun to see them get out and about and celebrate the year that was last night in Vegas. Yeah.

You don't think we have that? I agree. I don't think we have that. Diggs asked if you were bringing cigars, and you go, yeah, fuck you, what of it? That's true. It's a problem. We have that. We have that. I heard Mina yell you were bringing cigars. And you go, yeah, fuck you. What of it? Yeah, it's true. It's a problem.

We have that. We have that. I heard Mina yell that at Swagoo one time. What do you mean? Maybe. I'm not sure. They have a different friendship, I think. But it does seem as if they are all in. And I would like us to potentially hopefully reach that one day.

We can certainly try. We're there. They've had a hell of a year. They deserved it. I agree. That's what the Super Bowl is, by the way. Yeah. Super Bowl is like the year end. This is our holiday party. This is

our wrap-up. This is all the hours. This is our Super Bowl. All of our chatting all year about everything that happened. It comes to a full head. A lot of meetings happening in LA. A lot of conversations happening in LA. Hopefully a lot of look back on the season that was

not only for us, but everybody. Good us good on us hey i made you too aj but good on us i thought we were trying to be tight like them why you gotta you're gonna throw throw that at me well you're the problem the guy asked if you're bringing cigars and you say hey tone you and i will never smoke the same quality of tobacco yeah that's what he said. That's what he said. Yeah, he said that to me. Yeah, that's what he said. Imagine, like, you know what's crazy? There is people, there's people like that, that really think that, that would tell someone,

like, you would never, I would never stoop low enough to hang out with you. Yeah, there's people that actually think that. Do people say that? I don't know. If anybody was- I think there's got to be people that say it. Well, next week,

we're probably going to meet a lot of them, if I had to guess. And we are the people that they would never hang out with, but they're going to be forced to be in the same room as us. Hopefully, we'll get a chance to chit-chat with the fine folks at NFL Films because I think we have a couple people that, you know,

I think we can deem this guy a friend of the show now. Absolutely. He was the supervising producer for the Hard Knocks in-season with the Indianapolis Colts, which was a fantastic series that was cut too short because Contown beat the Colts out of the playoffs in the last week of the season. They were going to go on the entire run all the way to the Super Bowl,

in which that is where the Colts were supposed to head, but obviously a 4.4 QBR. He also directed Terry Bradshaw's most recent one-man story, basically, called Going Deep Documentary on HBO Max. It was released two days ago. We saw some clips. We tried to watch the entire thing. Looks like it is beautifully done.

Ladies and gentlemen, a man who's been in NFL films for 25 years, I believe, Keith Cosgrove. Yeah, Keith! Howdy, baby, Keith! Howdy, baby! Good to be back, fellas. Hey, it's great to have you back.

We watched some of the going deep doc didn't want to ruin it my wife and I think my wife would like to watch it as well hey that thing was beautifully done not that NFL films would ever put out something that wasn't that thing was gorgeous so congratulations thank you we shot the crap out of that thing

we went to Branson Missouri with Terry last summer he was uh doing four shows at the clay cooper theater in branson missouri he's got this show he's got a band he sings songs which kind of a rockabilly vibe okay and he tells stories about his life and i we've been aware of it for several years and always wanted we thought we could build a really cool terry bradshaw film around this thing and he's so much interested and then hbo we told hbo about it they got interested and then terry

terry liked that idea and so we went we spent 10 days with him in Branson. I interviewed him there for a total of like six hours backstage in one of the dressing rooms. And we shot all four shows. We shot the crap out of them. So, yeah, we're proud of it. It's a really, it's a different kind of film. I definitely, you know, you're going to watch the first 10 minutes and say, what the hell is this? Oh, there's some singing early? There's some singing early. He starts singing and you're like, what is this? Why do we have a Terry Bradshaw Variety Hour on HBO?

Stick with it. First of all, he's a lot of fun. Of course, he's Terry Bradshaw. He's one of the most gifted storytellers in the history of the NFL, but probably pro pro sports right there aren't there aren't many guys like terry bradshaw um well mcafee's pretty good barclay's pretty good uh but bradshaw is a pretty gifted storyteller so we thought and and and it turned out everything we thought it could be and he uh, as the title suggests, he goes deep. He gets into some things.

He drops some, he gets a little selective with his language. Oh, no. His language would be, yeah, you get a little bit of a different Terry Bradshaw than the show that you've ever seen before. I guarantee you that. Keith, is this, I haven't seen it yet, obviously. Is it anything like mike tyson's like one man show that he was doing a little different because terry's singing

here i never saw the tyson one i don't think tyson sang did he no he just told stories but he had like great uh like big screens behind him that would go with his stories like it was just very well produced too well this was so terry's been doing this show for years. He had a residency in Vegas before the pandemic. And then he hadn't he hadn't done it in a couple of years. Adele. But but so it's not like super crazy videos everywhere. We added a few videos for our purposes. You know, we popped up the Immaculate reception during the part of the

show where he talked about that and then after each show i would go in the audience and we would do an extra q a we kept the audience there to get into some other parts of his career that you know he keeps his show light and this show goes into some darker places he's had a lot of struggles bradshaw that uh i'm not sure many people are aware of. He's battled depression for most of his life. He's got ADHD. And his time in Pittsburgh left him with a lot of scars, which is crazy to think about. You know, Guy was the first pick in the draft and won four Super Bowls.

And it's, you know, remembered rightly as one of the best players in the history of football. But there's a lot more there. You know, his time in Pittsburgh was tough. Do you think that this is like the only doc that'll be done on Terry Brown? Is that kind of how you looked at it? Like we can tell his entire story here? Do you think he meant for it to be that way? Is that what you were shooting for when you go into it? Or do you think there'll be more?

I think it will be hard to do another i don't think he'll do another one like this he went into this and i give him so much credit because he he went into this and said i'm gonna go all in if i do this and i'm not gonna like it he you know he said he would say i'm gonna hate these interviews but we're gonna do them and i'm gonna go i know i gotta talk about chuck noel and i know I got to talk about Chuck Noll, and I know I got to talk about Pittsburgh, and I know I got to talk about all this stuff I don't want to talk about. 20 minutes into our first interview, and we did three separate interviews over the course of the week, he mentioned his three divorces.

And I was, boy, I was like, all right. You know, he had married an Olympic figure skater, Jojo Starbuck, back in the day in the 70s. And that was his second wife. And so he brings his divorces up. And I said, well, you know, why don't you give me a thumbnail of the three divorces, which is not an easy thing to ask. And he went for about 10 minutes on the divorces and kind of gave a whole history of his failed marriages, which was extremely painful for him to do. And at that point, you knew, OK, he he's not messing around. He really came to tell his story.

You didn't expect that, huh? You didn't expect it to be pretty positive because of what the show normally was. No, I knew that we were going to go to some places that weren't going to be comfortable, and we had talked about it. I didn't know that he would go there. I certainly didn't think he'd go there half an hour into our first interview. You know, when you sit down and do these interviews,

you know, like, if somebody's doing, like, a biographical documentary about you, you're going to have to talk about everything. It doesn't make it any any easier yeah but he he got into it and and he man to his credit like i i can't say enough how grateful we are to terry because he he didn't leave anything on the table thank you tb he said he's an interesting guy an interesting character at one point in the film he says we might have even sent you this clip over this morning

he says I wish I was loved and respected the way Brady and Manning and Roger there's one thing in my life I do wish I had and I'll say this I wish I was loved and respected and I'll say this I'll say this I wish I was loved and and respected and I understand I

I know I don't deserve this I just wish I had it like Brady and like Peyton Roger Staubach but when I sit back in my life as a football player, I never had that kind of respect. And I wish I did. I really do wish I did. Hey, hey, that music dropped, by the way. Hey, good scoring. Hey, good scoring on that documentary.

But also, that's the type of what you're talking about, of reaching into maybe the flaws or the self-consciousness versions of Terry Bradshaw, which makes the best documentary. Go ahead, AJ. I'm sorry about it, Bob. Yeah, I guess what would happen if you sat down with all these interviews and he didn't go as deep as he did? Because I think it's awesome.

Just seeing that clip alone, to be vulnerable enough to actually say that, I think is really cool of him. What happens if he doesn't give you all this good stuff that's a good question you know sometimes when you're and you guys know this when you do interviews right and you're kind of in media mode and you're guarded and you're given the pat answers, it's tough to break through. We did a film. We did an HBO documentary with Joe Namath like 10 years ago, and we knew we were going to have to go to some tough places with Namath too. And the thing we did with Namath was, you know,

you study everything these guys say. You know, we've interviewed Terry Bradshaw 20 times over 50 years. Steve Sable interviewed him. So I studied all these interviews. We did the same thing for Namath. So what you do is you say, we're going to do three interviews. And we ended up interviewing Joe Namath for 11 hours for this HBO doc 10 years ago. Because you ask a question, and I love Joe Namath.

He's the coolest. You're not as cool as Joe Montana. Namath is the coolest. Yeah, I don't know if it's Joe Montana. Joe Montana's a cool guy. Both Western Pennsylvania boys. I know. Yeah, we know.

Mostly Western Pennsylvania creates cool guys, but Joe Montana saved a baby from abduction with a football by breaking the beak of the – I'm not going to argue Montana is very cool. So you ask a question, right, and you kind of know sometimes what the answer you're going to get is because you've studied it.

You know this is the story that this person likes to tell when he's asked this type of question so you you go through it you they answer the question that way and then you kind of go back again you build in enough time in the interview that you can kind of attack it from a couple angles and try to get to a different place and if there's a wall there you see if you can't break through it and and some guys you're never going to get through it right you know some guys just aren't going to go where you want them to go but i think in most cases and certainly with nameth and and certainly in this bradshaw film they know what they're getting into when they're going to do a documentary for hbo or they're going to do a 30 for 30. They know, you know, bring your,

bring your a game. Are you just plugged into HBO? Are you the guy? Like if someone needs to get to HBO, you just have a great relationship with them over there or. Well, we have the best relate. We have such a great relationship with HP. We've been making movies with them for 40 years. Hey, what about rights? What about game rights? You think they're going to get involved in live rights now that like, uh, Amazon's involved?? You think they're going to get involved in live rights now that like Amazon's involved? Do you think there's going to be other people? Well, you know, HBO's got

this big merger coming. Q2 of 2022. We got to see what happens. Who are they merging with? With Discovery, right? Discovery's buying Warner. Of course. Wow.

So then HBO becomes part of the whole Discovery family and we'll see what happens. You know, there, the big rights conversation right now is with Sunday Ticket, and we'll see if the NFL comes up with a direct-to-consumer product or if Sunday Ticket stays on DirecTV. That's the one package that's kind of hanging out there right now. DirecTV's dead.

They're dead and wide. You can't say't say that obviously you guys have a great relationship owned by warner right i think direct at&t owns direct tv and well there's like six companies that just own everything actually and it sounds like you guys have a good relationship with everybody as you should you do a great job with the game and the biggest league on earth but there's gonna be a lot of money coming in the league and into nfl films and i'm pumped for you because you do a great job and i can't wait to see you continue to do so go ahead ty keith with this taking almost a year for the entire process and with you guys's relationship with hbo like are you uh are you guys in production are you just planning on making several of these like nfl type documentaries over the next couple years or like how does that process work?

Perfect, because I need to ask you guys. We've got a meeting on Monday with HBO. We've got a meeting with Bentley Weiner, the executive producer here of HBO Sports right now, and T-Moda, who's a coordinating producer. We've got a meeting with them on Monday to talk about what documentary we should do this year. So, let's

hear it. You guys got any ideas? Tom Brady. Mongo. Aaron Rodgers. Mongo McMichaels. Roethlisberger. Ben Roethlisberger. We can't do back-to-back Steelers quarterbacks. Ricky Williams.

Terry says he's a Steelers. Ricky Williams. Ricky Williams. Terry says he's a Steelers. Yeah, Terry, yeah. Ricky Williams. Oh, Ricky Williams. How many documentaries are we doing on Ricky Williams? Wow. 30 for 30 already. The next one's the best one, man. I can't wait.

He's got a hot company. Bill Carr. I don't think OJ Simpson's a good one. I think that's been pretty well documented. I don't know. We'll think. Michael Lombardi. Sidney Crosby.

We'll go. Jay Glazer. Hellby. Jay Glazer. Jay Glazer. Jay Glazer's a good one. His book is good, huh? Unbreakable. Did you read it? No, I keep seeing... Oh, Edger and James. Edger and James, good doc. You guys like Edge? We've been

talking about doing a football life on Edge. We've never done a football life on Edge. What about Kelly Johnson? Edge deserves a football... Before we move on to anybody else, Edger and James definitely deserves

a football life. Hell yeah. What's the elevator pitch on Edge's football life? From gold teeth to gold jackets, dog. You never fucking understand. That's pretty damn good.

Yeah. That's his. That's not mine. That's his. That's not me. But he has a book out right now. I'm sure you could read it and be like,

yeah, we should absolutely do that. I think Calvin Johnson's a good one. We did Megatron's Football Life this year. It's a good one. Check it out. Did you acknowledge the curse that the Detroit Lions have forever now because they took his money from him?

Well, that curse goes back. That's the curse of Bobby Lane, Pat. That goes back when they traded Bobby Lane. How many curses does this guy have? Everybody curses. God, Detroit stinks. What is your problem? Get that team out of there.

Yeah, I mean, move them. Bobby Lane? Keith, can you just tell us now, will Hard Knocks be in Detroit this season? Because it's pretty much the only right answer I don't sense. There is no selection yet, but we know that the Lions are eligible to be selected for Hard Knocks. We have the annual, which teams are eligible for Hard Knocks? Parlor talk.

There's the edge book. Yeah, the Lions are eligible for Hard Knocks, so that'll certainly be a conversation keith how much does it cost for us to get nfl rights right we've been dancing around we didn't know if the first time talking to you was the right time to talk to you but now that we got your back and you know we can't wait to watch you terry we know you got a big brain you and todd over there big time brains how do we get a minute a week of highlights that i can just put right here just so I can do boom.

Look at this player. You know, that would make the show. You guys got all the money McAfee with, with the fan. You got all the fan duel money, right? Well,

I got money from other places too, but I'm trying not to spend that. I'm trying not to spend that. Obviously I'm trying to have, Hey, we, we love, you know,

we're big fans of the show and we are, we are happy to be on and be part of what everything you do you know we went over this last time we love mcafee are you going to be out there at the super bowl yeah i get there wednesday let's have a meeting huh us and uh nfl films have a little meeting absolutely absolutely okay so we do can we do that before i have meetings with other people because i'm having meetings with other people to potentially get rights i'd like to talk to you guys beforehand to see if there's a chance so I don't have to maybe glad hand

anybody else. You know what I mean? We love meetings. We love meetings at the Super Bowl. The best, the coolest meeting we had at the Super Bowl in Minnesota four years ago, we met with,

we sat down with Peyton Manning and that was where his show Peyton's places was born that we do for ESPN plus, which is, which is, you know, we just started shooting a season three of, and it's spun off into Eli's places and Abby Wambach's places. And we got Rhonda's places, Poppy's places. So that started at where the Super Bowl meeting was, Peyton. Pat's places.

I don't know. That's a great story. This Super Bowl coming up, a lot of good stories. What would you, as a storyteller for the NFL, enjoy more? This Joey Burrow young squad having no idea how big the moment is that they're in right now, and this is going to be a great documentary for a team that doesn't have an indoor facility, had to get on some basic-ass buses

in flip-flops in the middle of a blizzard, drive down the road to the University of Cincinnati where there's an entire student section basically waiting for them. Get in there and get their work done. They're playing in the Super Bowl in 2022. There's a $110 billion rights deal. There's $10 beers at every stadium.

There's only things are going up. They don't have an indoor practice facility. Would you like that to be the story? Or do you think Matthew Stafford and the superstars come together to kind of get the job done together in LA, in their home stadium? Which one do you think is the better story

looking ahead? Or do you think both are potential great documentaries on the way? Yeah. I love him. Well, you know what I've been thinking about all week? Because this has been our conversation. This is the kind of stupid stuff we talk about.

It's not stupid. Thanks for saying my question was stupid. No, no, no, not what you said. Here's what we talk about. What was the correct uniform combo for this game? Because we're going to shoot the super bowl with 32 cameras right and we're going to be showing these highlights for the next 100 years you're going to be watching nfl films no matter what happened burrow throws four touchdowns stafford throws four

touchdowns whatever happens you're going to be watching highlights forever and these two teams have a lot of a lot of uniform combos they wore this season. I just watched a rough cut of Road to the Super Bowl, our show that tells the story of the whole season, airs on Super Bowl Sunday. Between those two teams, they've got like 12 different uniforms. The Bengals are wearing the black jerseys with the white pants. Yes.

Yes. And I think the Rams are in white jerseys. They're not wearing bone, which I think we can all agree is the correct decision. They're not wearing what? They have that bone. You know that gray? They got that gray jersey. Bone. Like bone color. Look it up. Look it up.

Oh, really? They got a bone? Yeah. Their third jersey is called bone color. It's almost like an off-white. Yeah, see? I just didn't know they called it bone. Oh, bone.

What? You guys question me? You call it bone? Bone? Bone? Bone. Bone? Like bone, like your femur. Look it up.

Yeah, bone. Bone. Bone. The dog of bone. I've heard that, but we kind of hear what you're saying there. We know what you're talking about, obviously. White's tough. That's 8K.

You know, towards later in the season where the Colts, we wore all white Spanx, my belly button just became more and more apparent. Think about that when you're shooting these guys in all white, Keith. Burrow's awesome. He's fun to mic up. He reminds me of Montana a little bit.

Doesn't he remind you of Montana a little bit? Joey and Joe. Joe, cool. Joe and Joe. Oh, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. I mean, that's a lot. But he's in the Super Bowl in his second season. And the thing about it is you say, all right, Burrow could lose this one. He'll be back 100 times. All these young quarterbacks in the AFC.

We remember who went to the Super Bowl in his second season and never made it back, right? Come on, pop quiz, fellas. and never made it back, right? Come on. Pop quiz, fellas. Marino. Marino, right? Marino never made it back. Never made it back, huh?

He also never fought. So if Burrow – there's as much at stake for Burrow as there is for Matt Stafford and his band of Hall of Famers. You got to win it when you get there, right, AJ? Well, I was there my rookie year and never made it back. We almost lost all of our games just two years later. Go ahead, AJ. That's kind of what the Bengals are doing the opposite of that right now.

Congrats to them, too. Yes, indeed. Hey, you mentioned micing people up. So when you're deciding who to mic up, does the league, does anyone tell you how many players you'll add to mic on each squad? Do you have to check it with the team? How does all that work? It's an intricate process led by the senior executive at NFL Films,

Ross Ketover. Thank you, Ross. Ross is the best. Handsome. Handsome. Ross is super handsome. We love Ross. Big Ross.

Big brain. Love Ross. Big brain Ross. Love Ross. So Ross works with all 32 teams, right? And he books the wires every week. So he's already in contact with the Bengals and the Rams. And there will probably be three or four guys mic'd up for each team.

What's his last name? Ketover. K-E-T-O-V-E-R. Big hitter. Ketover is the guy you want to meet with. No, no. We want to meet with you, Keith. You're our guy. I'll be there with Ketover's the guy you want to meet with. No, no, we want to meet with you, Keith. You're our guy.

I'll be there with Ketover. I'll clean up. That's what I'm saying. Ketover's the boss. You say to Russ, you say, hey, here's a friend of ours. Yeah. That's all we need. We appreciate that.

We're going to check out the Terry Bradshaw doc on HBO Max and HBO, I believe. Incredible work by you guys, as always. We can't wait to see you next week down at Super Bowl. All right, fellas. We'll see you in L.A. Please join me, Keith Kosrow. Yeah, Keith! All right, that's the show.

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