The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 597 - LIVE From Radio Row In LA, Aidan Hutchinson, Kurt Warner, Seth Rollins, Chuck Pagano, Carson Palmer, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: February 9, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys are live from Radio Row in LA and have an absolutely loaded show with potential #1 pick in the NFL Draft Aidan Hutchinson, Hall of Famer Kurt Warner, WWE Superstar Seth Rollins, Coach Chuck Pagano, and former Cincinnati Bengals legend, Carson Palmer. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello. There you go. There you go. Turn the mic on. Let's get to a show. It is Wednesday, February 9th, 2022, day two, live from the LA Convention Center, brought to you by Crypto.com, just like the rest of this downtown area is. Radio Row here at the Convention Center for the Super Bowl this Sunday is filled with anticipation of people gathering and talking

about what the hell is going to happen on Sunday. We'll be having conversations with a bunch of random people just like we did yesterday, and who knows what the hell is going to happen. We assume a lot of the people that were out here yesterday hate us. The new people that are joining here today are going to hate us by the end of it, but that doesn't mean a damn thing to us because we are stacked and packed and loaded with guests. We have Kurt Warner potentially coming on in 10 minutes, but he's stuck in traffic. Traffic is bad.

You know how LA'd be. That's right. That'd be LA. With that being said, almost couldn't get into this place earlier today because there's a little bit of a scare. A little bit of a situation. A little bit of a dog. That smells like something that could go kaboom.

They sniffed that thing out. We got in. How you doing? Keep it moving. It's another glorious day in L.A. So who knows if Kurt Warner makes it in. We hope he does. Aiden Hutchinson will be here.

Normally don't like talking to people that haven't been in the NFL yet because who gives a fuck. But I think this guy is going to do well. They're saying he's the next Watt potentially. He's trying to make his own way, and I do believe he understands the show, fan of the show, that whole thing. And also, he's a part of the Michigan squad that just dog-walked Ohio State.

Dog-walked Ohio State. Can't wait for him to join us here. Seth freaking Rollins will join us. Chuck Pagano will be here live in person. Carson Palmer will be doing his annual Cadenwood CBD promotion live here today. And who knows who else? AJ and I were taking a pre-show bathroom break,

and there was people coming in saying, hey, how come you can't have this person on the show? They were asking AJ, by the way, not me. I'm standing right next to them. The guy is pitching to AJ to have on the show. So I think that might happen. Who knows who might stop by? Who knows where this conversation will go? We will

continue to answer your Twitter questions. Hashtag PMS in LA. We can't wait to get to that. All the boys are here. At official AJ Hawk sitting to my left. AJ and I went to a business meeting yesterday. Boys, that tone digs us here. One half of the hammer. Cowboys, Ty Schmidt, Boston Connors here. AJ, it's a nice vibe

out here in LA. A lot of things happening, a lot of hands being shaked. Us walking into a 35,000-square-foot house and having a business meeting yesterday was awesome. This is L.A., baby. Yeah, I was not needed at this meeting you talk about, but I was glad to tag along and just be a tiny little part of a very fun afternoon. You were glad to go, huh? I had to drag this guy to this thing. Yeah, you did. He wanted me to walk in there alone.

He wanted me to go in by myself. I said, excuse me, AJ, we don't know to drag this guy to this thing. Yeah, you did. He wanted me to walk in there alone. Wanted me to go in by myself. I said, excuse me, AJ, we don't know what this opportunity could potentially lead to. We'd like you to come. And I'll tell you what, as soon as you walked into that house, were you not incredibly pumped about it? I mean, yeah. We got to experience one of the craziest houses, I think, of all time, it seems like. Right in the heart

of the L.A. region. It was really, really nice. So thank you for bringing me along. Elevator. What? Yeah, and to be honest, I don't know how many floors because they bypassed three or four of them in the elevator. And then when you got down to the bottom,

there was a tree growing in the middle of the house. Whoa. A common area. Fern gully. A basement. Courtyard. It was a nice... I don't know if any business

is going to get done in that place, but I do know that it was magical. And that is what LA does. More meetings on the way, more conversation, and obviously it's starting to pick up the buzz a little bit. Oh, yeah. At Boston Conner, you were talking about how awesome the city of Los Angeles is. Obviously, this is your first time out here.

Now that you're starting to really feel it come alive right in front of you, how do you feel about this Super Bowl 56 week out here in L.A.? I feel fantastic about the Super Bowl, Pat. I still am trying to wrap my head around the Cincinnati Bengals being a serious team going forward because my entire life, they've stunk. So now that we're here, now that it's really registering with me and I see the Joe

Burrow posters and the nice weather and the sunsets and the cheesecake factory that delivered like no other in the fry place that you guys ate from. I mean, they're... That was tough to eat from. What? I had a Crunchwrap Supreme that was remixed with fire-hot Doritos, two heart attacks.

What? It was a stoner's heaven there. I got to get delivered to the house as well. In the Cheesecake Factory from... AJ put in an order bigger than Vince Young has ever ordered from Cheesecake Factory. We're talking about numerous corn dogs. Last night was fantastic getting to watch it.

But let's get back to your Bengals conversation. Because the Bengals, for a long time, have been a program that people have said, that's not a real NFL team. Not at all. Hey, that's a high school amateur squad over there in Cincinnati. Is that what they said? People always say that? Yeah, people say, hey, there's an amateur squad over there in Cincinnati.

The fan base, the who-days, you know. Who-day. Who-day. Who-day say gonna beat them Bengals. Let me just know it finally. Well, the thing is, everybody was saying they were gonna beat the Bengals because the Bengals were an amateur operation because their owner

has the same shirt, same jacket, same hat, same building they had in 1974 when Boomer Esiason was walking to work both ways uphill in the snow. That's right. Okay? So everybody talked about them being an amateur, a laughingstock. This team's going to stink.

The AFC North is the kitchen, and it is hot in the kitchen all the time. Now we're staring down not only a Super Bowl appearance here and being like the coolest team, all of America is now pulling for Cincinnati. In the city of stars, the L.A. team is obviously not holding any favors with the entire country that is seeing a team that comes from literally horse and wagon to get here to L.A.

No indoor practice facility making things happen. And the luck doesn't stop there, AJ. Rob Gronkowski was asked about in year 12, you know, because he's teased it a couple times. If Tom Brady's retiring, what does that mean. Rob Gronkowski was asked about in year 12, you know, because he's teased it a couple times. If Tom Brady's retiring, what does that mean for Rob Gronkowski? Rob Gronkowski came out and said, if it's going to be another guy, it's going to be Joe fucking Burrow, I'll tell you that. What does that mean, AJ?

Are free agents going to want to go play in since a fucking natty because of Joseph Burrow, dude? Do you think that's going to become the case? This is an entire turn of the tide from worst to first, from actual outhouse to almost penthouse, still sleeping outside, though, because you've got no indoor practice facility. What a come-up for the Bengals, AJ. Well, I assume when I heard this, that means can Gronk sign today or tomorrow and go play in the Super Bowl with the Bengals? Is that a possibility?

If he retires? What if he gets retired and he gets cut? How does that work? Well, if he gets cut, I think he could potentially go. But I don't know if the Bucs are going to cut him. Obviously, it's not going to happen. But is there a chance? Maybe.

I don't know. What are the odds that Gronk actually plays next year? Well, so this goes right back to Tommy B. Yeah. Because Tommy B, you know, he said he's retiring. Well, Darlington and Schefter said he's retiring. And then he had to come out with an eight-screenshot release and then a video. And it was all kind of a big clusterfuck and tom's dad was like it was nothing's beneficial and then obviously

you know they were coming out the agent said it'll be better coming out of tom's mouth than anybody else's mouth and then we all felt tom was maybe forced into retirement a little bit by the pressures of media and society hey your old ass go out on top. This would be a good story. You didn't win a Super Bowl. You didn't get to a Super Bowl. You've lost it, Tom Brady. You didn't even make it to the Super Bowl yet again in year 75 of the NFL. You need to get out of here.

And now just less than two weeks, two weeks after that entire thing, he's already tempting going back. There's no way Gronkowski isn't tempting going back. Are they going to be at a new spot? Maybe in San Fran. Maybe somewhere else. But what do they think about Steve Smith Sr., ladies and gentlemen? Steve Smith Sr. Howdy, baby Steve.

Howdy, baby Steve. Howdy, baby Steve. Howdy, baby Debo. Debo. Howdy, Debo. Howdy, Debo. Steve, we're live. I mean, where is the show going?

Hey, Steve, here you go. There's a microphone. That is live. We are live. Can't do public push-ups. Ah, the mic friend's off. Turn the mic on. Mic friend's on.

Can't do the public push-ups. Can't hear a word he's saying. They're good. Hey, no worries. We'll get it eventually. It was a good game, though. Good to see you, man. Hey, thank you, Steve.

Hey, it's cold in here. Why are you happy? It's not cold in here. See? Yes, it is. It's freezing in here. It's freezing in here, Steve. Hey, ice up, son.

Hey, ice up, son. Okay? If you're a little cold out here, you know what I mean? Go to church,. It's freezing in here. Hey, ice up, son! Hey, ice up, son! Okay? If you're a little cold out here, you know what I mean? Go to church, dude. All right, anyways. Steve Sissinger, couldn't hear him a little bit. That was the first time we put a microphone in there. Not sure we knew which one was the mic.

Probably on the audio thing. Maybe should have looked at it before the show started. But obviously, I figured out this mic, I didn't turn on. That's 100% on me. But we're live in a convention center. Things like this are going to happen. But whenever you talk about Tom Brady coming back, you assume Gronk's going to go with him.

But at least now in this interview, and although Gronk might be trolling, just like he said, I don't watch any film, he might have been, you know, just saying, yeah, go play with Joe Burrow out there. No indoor practice facility. He just played in Tampa for a few years. His back was hurt.

I don't know if that's actually a case or not, but this is what Joe Burrow and the Bengals have become, a potential destination place for big-time stars. Gronk is not an Ohio guy by location or where he grew up, but I feel like his personality is an Ohio guy. So let's get into Gronk's background a little bit. Grew up in Buffalo, I believe, for whatever reason. I might know the story.

I don't know if it's a public story or not. He was not able to graduate from his high school for one reason or not. I don't know if it's a public story or not. He was not able to graduate from his high school for one reason or not. I don't know if it was his decision or the school's decision. But then he came down to Western Pennsylvania, played at Woodland Hills High School, W-O-O-D-Y, Woody High, same high school as my mother. They are a

powerhouse. Then obviously he goes on to Arizona and does his thing. So he is a Rust Belt guy. Buffalo, graduated from a Pittsburgh high school. So I assume he would be guy. Buffalo, graduated from a Pittsburgh high school. So I assume he would be just as tough, if not tougher, than everybody in Ohio. But certainly fits the mold of tough guy, don't you think, AJ? Yeah, he does. But how did he get to the place in Pennsylvania?

Whatever happened to Buffalo, how did he get to Pennsylvania, though? Well, it was just a school. You look around, what's a good school? That's a plan. He wanted to go find a powerhouse. But why wouldn't he find another one around Buffalo? Because it's the Whippeal, dude. That's where you go to go to big clubs.

Okay, that's what I'm asking you. Yeah, you go to fucking Pittsburgh, dude. That's what I'm asking you. So it's like one of those pipeline schools? Yeah. All right, well, that makes sense then. So they probably got recruited there. Jason Taylor went there.

Have you heard of him? Yeah, of course. Ever heard of him, dude? Steve, Stevie Bresson. Great player. Steve? Steve, yeah. All good players.

Okay, so it's one of those places. It's like IMG Academy in that area. Kind of. I mean, obviously not an academy, but it is. No, it's one of those places It's like IMG Academy In the area I mean obviously not an academy No it's a public school Very public school But studs come from all over the place Yeah we don't do like private schools Like all these other places

Okay it's we you're part of it Well our school I mean similar setup But much worse at football Much much much worse at football That team. What? Much, much, much worse at football. Yeah, yeah. That team was good at football. They could really run the rock. They could really run the rock. But nonetheless, drunk talking about Cincinnati Bengals, this never happens. Now, granted, they got

Trey Hendrickson. They made some money in the offseason, but this is an absolutely pivotal year for the entire Who Day, folks. And I hope they're recognizing it, enjoying it. And I like the fact that Joey B said yesterday, if we win a championship, I'm going to smoke a cigar because you have no idea how many championships you're going to win in this entire thing.

Speaking of him talking like that, I thought about it yesterday. Kenny, good to see you, man. So, like, McVay's first Super Bowl experience didn't go great. Stafford's been in the league a long time. This could be, like, a career-making game. But then on the other side, the Bengals weren't supposed to be here. Joey Burrow, you've got Uzama coming out. That's not a tight team when he comes out, takes off his leg brace,

and throws it into the crowd. That's an advantage. I mean, the pressure is definitely on the Rams, obviously. They built their team to get here. They're supposed to be here. The Bengals, no one really expected them, other than Zach Taylor and the rest of those guys. Go on about pressure, though.

What does that mean? It's a Super Bowl. They're going to be shitting their pants. They all are. But we've talked about it in the past like off the air too with young and naive is a big benefit at times like you don't have those scars built up in their brain of bad things that have happened over the years yeah so maybe joe instead of like pulling back he's taking a shot he's never thought of it he's never thought about losing like that's a huge advantage like

the dude feels like he's always in the zone he's always ready ready to roll. He's only had success in big games as well. And I would imagine it gives them a little extra juice because they were getting blown out by the Chiefs last week and everyone was like, hey, they're dead. And they come back and win that game. Never had any doubts. Like, yeah, we can beat anybody. We should beat anybody. Listen, we're down 18. But we practice

in a fucking blizzard every day. We don't even have an opportunity to go inside. You think being down 18 is the worst thing that happened to us? You remember when Jamar Chase's tongue got stuck to the pole outside of practice last week because we had no heat. We had no opportunity to do that. That is tough. 18 points ain't nothing.

What if that's how Zach Taylor's speaking to that team? Like, hey, we have an owner who will not pay for a scouting department. All of you guys were picked individually by your individual coaches. So when you're going out there, there's a lot of road hours by guys who had to leave their families all season, then in the off season not sleep at all either because now they got to scout high schoolers for future generations and college guys for the draft. We have no other option than what we have in here, mostly because of our own ownership doesn't do anything. But you think being down 18 matters? We haven't slept in 18 months. We're trying to run this entire thing over here because we get no help from the front office.

That is quite an advantage, I think. But do you think, I mean, do we know where the Bengals are staying? Like, is there a chance that they're out big time cheapskate? Well, a couple of those RVs I've seen. Exactly. Staying at an RV, maybe a motel. And by the way, yesterday you were talking about the communities as a whole, not the people. What community?

The Bum communities. Oh, okay. people. What community? The bone communities. What do you mean? There are communities. They're every year. Yeah, really nice campgrounds out there. We drove by a few on the way here. Overpass, dude. We drove under an entire overpass of one particular community.

Seems like they're cock of the walk, by the way. To meet them, you've got to get onto the bridge. That's like the cat. All the cats in my house are trying to look for the highest perch. All of them look for it. And the one that has it is ultimately the heel of the entire day or the entire situation. Just like catfish. I've gone noodling before.

And the bigger the hole around the lake, it's not like a new hole. It's always the biggest holes in a lake are already occupied. So whenever you go and put your fist in there, they think you're another catfish coming for their goddamn spot. So whenever you put your hand in there, they try to attack you. Boom, fist the fish right out the side. You're out. Now guess what?

There's an open hole there. Somebody else is coming in there. That's kind of what this entire situation is. If you live up in that big one, there's somebody trying to get to the top because that is the cream of the crop when it comes to RV bum communities. But that one, it feels like they got a pretty well locked down.

I've seen that they had a they had a tarp. Oh, yeah. Two sticks. They had a patio. Oh, yeah. I mean, they are. This is crazy. They're getting innovative here now. They say ingenuity's mother is necessity. Exactly. And I believe that is certainly happening in the RV bum community around town. I wonder if they play against each other in any sports. It's almost like schools at this point. Thank you.

Yeah, I think they do. But it's more like smoking cigs. Who can smoke the, you know, cig the fastest, the pack the fastest. And to your point about ingenuity breeds necessity, I actually saw a guy drinking bleach yesterday while we were driving home from the rent-a-car. Who knows what was in it? Possibly beer, possibly vodka, possibly a mix of the three. But these communities are thriving, it seems like, because everyone's got a smile on their face. Yeah, everybody does have a smile on their face. And I'm happy you got to correct yourself, because you did

certainly sound like a scumbag yesterday. Well, you can make the argument that I am a scumbag in some senses. But in that sense, I was just, you know, pointing out the obvious, and I was talking about the community All right, let's move along. Steelers are interviewing Colts College scouting director Morocco Brown. Morocco Brown has gotten numerous interviews in this interview cycle for the general managership. He's been alongside the beautiful Chris Ballard through this entire process. A lot of the front office people at the Colts are probably going to get plucked at some point. Morocco Brown's getting a lot of interviews this year. The thing about the Steelers interviewing him is just like what Tone Diggs said yesterday.

We're from Pittsburgh, so we've seen this team operate a little bit more, I think, than most folks. They always hire from within. It's like a college. The players still go back there and hang out. It's the most college-like. I don't know what Green Bay is like. I guess I shouldn't judge that. Pittsburgh feels like the most college-like team.

The Steelers in general, you're saying? Yeah. The alumni comes back. They're able to hang out. They're able to do this. They do seem to have the strongest alumni. Every game I turn on the Steelers, you see Steeler legends usually on the sidelines. Brett usually leads the squad out of the tunnel.

He's not part of that. No, but the thing about it is it's because all the same coaches are there. Yeah. In the front office, too, right? It's like a family environment. And everybody, you know somebody that's there. Now, granted, a lot of that's because Tomlin has had so much success and been such a great coach, and if he wasn't a great coach,

they would have to do turnover just like everybody else trying to figure out who the fucking next coach is. But a lot of the even, remember Mike Tomlin told us, the dog blitz is the two outside guys going. It's been that way since the beginning of Steeler all the way back to the steel curtain. So when guys come back, they still talk about plays and they really thrive

and strive off the fact that it's a family. Like, hey, this is how we go. They've had success doing this as well. If they didn't have success, they'd get buried for this type of operation. But they've had success. They've had winning seasons. So it's complimented as being awesome, as it should be. Feels like a culture that you would definitely want to be a part of. Normally, they're hired from

within. They had Louis Riddick in there from obviously straight out of the Monday Night Football booth. Now they got Morocco Brown in there. I wonder if they're looking from the outside in trying to fix a problem that they've had not winning a playoff game in a long time. They also interviewed Ed Dodds from the Ballard GM tree. But to your point, they just

hired a new defense coordinator. He came from the inside. They hired a new offensive coordinator last year, he came from the inside. Everyone who they always hire is from the inside. So that's why, like, when you see – Is that a good or a bad thing, though? I tend to think it – I always used to like it because they always had success, so why do something that you haven't done before?

But Pat does mention there hasn't been a playoff win in a couple years. Long time, and that AFC North's getting hot. Hey, it's getting hot in that AFC North. Joey B, who's Mike Gronk on a goddamn tour. Uh-oh. I mean, and then let's not even talk about – I mean, Lamar Jackson had a bad year. That kind of thing stumbled out of the gates with the whole COVID situation

and the injury situation and this situation. Lamar Jackson's still going to be Lamar Jackson next year, we hope. By the way, we hope they get back to being the Ravens. Pay them. Hopefully in a post, you know, COVID, right? Right. Right. Right. When's the last time, though, the Bengals have been a real threat in that division like this? Well, never really.

Just this year. Maybe when Carson Palmer would be joining us later. We went to the playoffs when I was there and got beat by the Steelers in the playoffs. Oh, yeah. You guys had that game won. Yeah, absolutely. We had about 100 yards of penalties in one play that actually ended the season for us. That was a tough one.

Discipline, dude. That was a tough one to get over. You ran into the locker room. What do you mean? You guys had multiple coaches on the 50-yard line. That was Joey Porter. I did not run the locker room. Joey Porter would beat the fuck out of a player, a coach, and a bouncer.

He is the man. I don't blame Joey. I blame the ref for allowing it out there. Joey was doing his job helping his team out, man, and it absolutely worked. It was a good deal for him. Not us. Not us and Cincy. But now, if you're the AFC North, okay, you're worried about the Bengals for the next 15

years, aren't you? If you're a GM of some other team in the AFC North? I'm more worried about the Bengals than I am the Ravens because I think Joey Burrow is better than Lamar Jackson. That's what it comes down to. Well, Joey Burrow plays in a style that you've seen have a lot of success for a long time. Two 6'6 monsters just walked through here.

Jeez. All tatted up. Trey Wingo just came through. Kenny Main just moments ago. Atta baby Trey. Hey. Atta baby Trey. Atta baby Trey.

Atta baby Trey. That guy's got a sweet mullet, too. Yeah, that guy. Yeah, he does. If you drank the ooze, that would be you. I'm wondering, is that just an Aussie punter? And I don't want to judge somebody, but is that an Aussie punter that's gone into the draft this year? That's honestly what I think when I first see somebody that's 6'6", 240 pounds, yoked, mullet, completely tatted.

I'm like, oh, that's an Aussie. That's an Aussie coming through. Either that or he's ex-special forces who had like 150 confirmed kills. I mean, I don't want to show this guy, but I mean. I mean, he should. It'd be hard to under. I think he's in a spot that I don't know if I can get to. Oh, yeah.

You got him. You got him. I don't know if I'll be. Right side. Get him to wave. Right side. No, I know, but I can't get. He's in a dead spot.

Oh, shit. Well, yeah. He's ex-special forces. He knows he's in a dead spot. Bro, he's hiding in a spot in which you can't see him. This dude. There it is. There it is.

Boom. Look at that guy. He's huge. What do you do, sir? Sir. Sir. You're a monster, dude. Good for you.

Yeah. Both of you. Yeah. Yeah. Good for you. Yeah. Both of you. Yeah. How we doing? Yeah. Get that thing going. That guy's got four days of tattoo time in the chair on his arms. That guy is a monster.

He might be an Aussie punter. We're not 100% sure. We'll try to get the name on old buddy there that could beat the fuck out of you, AJ. I agree. Yes, both of them could. Either way, tell the Steelers to call him. I mean, Jesus. See that Washington Commanders gear.

I did. We are commanders. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Yes. Yeah, let's go. Is that real? Is that really a thing, though, that they're going to do? Yeah, I think so.

I mean, that guy just cheered for it. He's from the team, it appears. I don't know if anybody else is getting that type of gear. No way. I mean, you got that letterman. Yeah, Dan Snyder has a sweet letter jacket. We're going to get all the way back around. This thing's a little slower than it was yesterday. Oh, no, he's going back.

Don't go that side. Oh, no. That's the only thing all the way around. This is the best idea you ever had. I think I feel good about it. I felt really, really good about it. No, he's going back into the dead. He's gone. He's gone. He's a ghost. There's a lot of high-speed chases here in L.A. and guys do get away. Oh, yeah?

We got a chance. Obviously, smoking scans from out here. He literally has made an entire Twitch stream to smoking and following L.A. police chases. And we've gotten a chance to see and hear a lot of them, actually. There was a motorcycle that crashed in front of our house last night. There was a motorcycle that crashed right in front of our house last night. That's right. Well, didn't you guys have a helicopter fly

over your house like four or five times? Yeah. We still don't know what that's all about. About 45 minutes. Yeah, obviously AJ had an entire theory. Oh, is that right? No, I was just waving. You know that. Alright, let's get to a break. No theory. We're 24 minutes in here. We got Aiden Hutchinson joining us on the other side.

I guess Kurt Warner did not make it. Oh, Kurt. You know, it would have been a true underdog story if he would have been able to beat that traffic. You're right. You know what I mean? If he would have been able to beat that traffic, I'm just not sure. I'm not sure there would have been better tales told about it because we've seen that traffic just moments ago. It was not great.

Not a buildup. I think there's a chance, though, he found out Hutchinson was coming on and knew that AJ's probably going to try and fight him and didn't want to get mixed up in the Ohio State Michigan rivalry. You're right. When we get back on the other side, we might have a man from Michigan named Aiden Hutchinson who's probably going one or two in the next draft. This is

a great time to be in the draft if you're not a QB because everybody's saying this draft class stinks at QB. So shout out to Aiden. Also, Big Icky. I met Big Icky yesterday at NC State. Let's go. Tackle.

Yeah, he may go right after Aiden. Yeah, they're talking about them going one, too. Passive. Obviously, I didn't scout any left tackles coming out of college. I should have. I'll dive into that these next couple months as we get ready for draft prep, obviously, because draft spectacular is coming bigger and badder than it's ever been. But I don't know if anybody's going to get picked

higher than that guy that I met yesterday. Show him your pass set. Oh, yeah. I don't want to give him the game. He's a rook-ass rook. You're doing it. I'll fucking bury it. Yeah, for real.

This might be bad for the draft stock, pal. I believe, joining us now, people are saying he's going to be top two, not two. Michigan defense event, a man that led the Wolverines into the ass-beating of the Ohio State Buckeyes this year.

All the way into the college football playoff. Ladies and gentlemen, probably the first overall pick in the NFL draft coming up. Congrats on the bag, cuz. Ladies and gentlemen, A the first overall pick in the NFL draft coming up. Congrats on the bag, cuz. Ladies and gentlemen, Aiden Hutchins. Yeah! Woo! Appreciate you.

Sorry, good to see you, man. Good to see you, too, man. God, you're a big son of a bitch, huh? I mean, you are. Jesus. Hey, he's a big guy. What's up, brother? Hey, let's go.

Let's go, man. Hey, you got the headset right to your left there. Hey, we appreciate you joining us. I know you're very busy. You're here for AutoTrader? What are we pumping? What are we selling? Yep, yep. So, you got the headset right to your left there. Hey, we appreciate you joining us. I know you're very busy. You're here for AutoTrader. What are we pumping? What are we selling? Yep, yep.

So, you know, it's been a crazy year. Hey, it's been a crazy year. And it's only getting crazier. So, that's why I'm excited to partner with AutoTrader for my first purchase as a car in the NFL. They have a great wide selection. He's so good. Also, they have their best new cars list for 2022, so I'll definitely be searching through that. Oh, so there's different options that you can go on autotrader.com and kind of look through and everything like that?

Yes, exactly. What are you thinking? So, for instance, when I was growing up, a lot of rap songs and rap videos I watched. I saw the Cadillac Escalades, and they were really getting put over. And then there was this house up on the hill that had a mega mansion. It was in a different town. It had the Cadillac Escalades. They were really getting put over. And then there was this house up on the hill that had a mega mansion. It was in a different town. It had the Cadillac Escalade behind it. So I said, as soon as I get money, guess what?

Boom, I'm buying a Cadillac Escalade. So literally, the day I got drafted, bought a Cadillac Escalade. Didn't get the signing bonus for three months. Almost got the thing repoed. Had an incredible interest rate, but I knew I was going to get an Escalade. Have you thought about this? Whenever you inevitably get drafted, what are you going to buy from your friends at AutoTrader? So, you know, I'm thinking.

People take me for a truck guy, but I don't. You're a big son of a bitch. And you are a big dude. You are a large man. You know the Jeep Gladiator? That's a truck, I guess. It's a Jeep truck. Bronco, Ford Bronco, maybe something along those lines.

So maybe I'm looking for something sleek, but not too much. Yeah. Something a little more on the down low. Yeah, because the car is going to speak a lot about you, too, when you show up. That's right. That's right. Hey, is this guy ready to work, or is this guy just here for the glamour? And, you know, I'm a Midwest grit guy, you know?

I'm one of those guys. Well, maybe just an F-150 Classic, bud. Honestly, that might be better for my look. So, Aiden, let's talk about it. You've got to be pretty excited. Hell of a season for Michigan, obviously. You guys beat the shit out of the Ohio State Buckeyes. That's right.

Do we have any? Oh, yeah. He's pissed. He's pissed. You guys won. Hell of a game. Hell of an atmosphere. Calm down, Aiden.

Are you taking it easy, dude? Hey, is everything okay, dude? You guys dominated them. No, I don't ever have an issue when a team comes out and beats them. Like, hey, you did it. It was impressive. What was the difference this year? Obviously, you were a gigantic part of it.

Yeah, massive part of it. The D-line, by the way, the entire D-line was getting after it. But what was the difference about this year, you think, for Michigan as opposed to years past? Man, I think, you know, this year we really put an emphasis on them. I know it's different every year with different teams. But this team, I mean, we came in spring ball, fall camp, most energy I've ever seen.

Dude storming fields in the practices, some stuff you never see in practice. I was seeing this. I was like, well, we might have a chance this year. I don't know if that means we're going to win any ball games, but, hey, all these boys want to play football. So I knew we had a chance from the beginning, but going into that game, yeah, it was – I mean, they were the Goliaths. We were always the David for the past 15 years,

and I think we really imposed our will on the Bucs. Yeah, you did. You just punked them. Even the offense. I mean, just smash mouth, run it down your face. All right. This is what we're going to do to you. I know.

I mean, it was great. I don't know how West Virginia did this year, but, yeah, you guys definitely played well in that game. This isn't about me. I know. This is about Michigan and Michigan and Ohio State. Who's the reigning champ, okay? Who's got the title?

Michigan does a lot because of you. You said a lot of energy in the team and everything like that, and we should have paid attention closely. This year was your launch into superstardom. I should have looked into this more. Did you have to develop late, or have you always been this guy and we just didn't pay attention, or did something click this last year that really catapulted you?

We actually got a new defensive coordinator this year, and he's from the Ravens, so they kind of brought in that 3-4 scheme. So I was now playing stand-up outside backer this year, and I think that just unleashed me. He gave me a lot of freedom, so I really just went there and played my ball and I think it really led me to flourish and I think that was a big reason why. Go ahead AJ. Do you care in the league what you play 3-4 outside backer or a 4-3 DM with your hand in the ground doesn't matter? And I'm asking have you got any of those conversations yet? I haven't had any conversations with the teams yet

about that but I just thinking about it I would want to play a 3-4 outside backer just because the amount of vision. You can see the play developing. You can see things, and I'm able to react to those things a lot better just standing up and being able to get that rolling getoff. Do you like rushing from two-point or three-point better? Two-point. Everything two-point because of the way the offenses are right now too?

You're the guy getting read off of, right? Yeah, 100%. So I think whenever you're standing, it gives you a little bit more athleticism. Yeah, more athleticism, more vision with the play, faster play recognition, all of that. How's the – are you working out right now? So are you going to run and do all that shit? Yeah, doing all that. You are going to – at the combine, you're going to do everything?

Oh, hell, I'm not scared of anything. Oh, it's Midwestern Grit Boy. It's Midwestern Grit Boy. Look, I'm not scared of anything. Oh, it's Midwestern Grit Boy. It's Midwestern Grit Boy. Look, I'm not scared to show off anything. I'm going to go out, and I'm going to light that thing up, and I'm going to have a lot of fun doing it. So, yeah, I'm just out here working out, working my butt off, and, you know, just getting after it.

How many reps? How many 225 reps do you think? Yeah, what are we thinking? We did some. You got some long arms. You are not set up for it, even though I'm sure you can do 100. I'm thinking 35. Jeez.

Is that a lot? I don't know. With his arms, too? That's a massive amount. Are you a naturally yoked, like, strong guy? Like, AJ's a naturally powerful guy. Are you a naturally powerful guy, or did you have to build? No, I'm pretty naturally powerful.

But, I mean, I was skinny as hell. I mean, this is – I had to make all this. But, like, you know, I'm naturally powerful, naturally explosive. But, yeah. How's the hips? You got good – because they're going to have you run that, what, straight line back up. to make all this but like you know i'm naturally powerful naturally naturally explosive but yeah how's the hips you got good because they're gonna have you run that what straight line back up you'll do that you can run the hoop back pedal go forward go sideways um you know because your generation i don't want to say your generation but there's a lot more thought of like is this worth it or not in the business sense of everything you're in a college football

playoff so there's no conversation to be had there right but like the workouts and the combine i think the fact that you're working out and doing stuff like a lot of teams are going to be like thank you because you got like a lot of old school football dudes that see it the old way as opposed to the business side so you're doing all this shit that may not correlate to the game i think is good personally i think that is a personally good thing and i hope you crush it dude yeah thanks man when is when is the combine training started you already started yeah yeah we started Personally, I think that is a personally good thing, and I hope you crush it, dude. Yeah, thanks, man. I can't wait. When does combine training start? Have you already started?

Yeah, we started in January, and we're rolling. We're combines two or three weeks away, so we're here. Combines two or three weeks away? Indianapolis, yeah. That's where it usually is, right? You're going to love it. You've been? I was in Indy for the Big Ten Championship.

Yeah, of course you've been. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Michigan State, because we have a guy from Michigan State. He knows names. I mean, literally Ohio State here, Michigan State right back here. And he used to say, yeah, there he is right there. He used to say, you know, Michigan's never been to Indianapolis for the Big Ten Championship.

That's a shame or whatever. So you changed the game for Michigan forever. We did. Yeah, I guess. Your thoughts on Harbaugh? What's that all about? What's going on? You like Harbaugh as a person, I assume.

He was your coach. A real good dude. He's a guy you want to play for. I thought he was gone, to be honest with you. I think he thought he was gone, too. Yeah, because I thought we never had a season like that at Michigan ever. So, I think end on a high note, call it. But he's back for more, and he's not done yet.

So, we'll see what he does in the future and how Michigan is next year. Go ahead, Ty. I am an Iowa grad, so the Big Ten Championship was one of the most miserable nights of my life, so I appreciate that. But obviously, whoever you get drafted by, I assume you're just happy to get there and start working. Are you a little bit relieved that Urban is no longer in Jacksonville? Michigan, man, you can't be playing for an Ohio State guy, right?

Oh, you're right. You're right. I don't know how much I could talk about that, but him just being an Ohio State guy, right? Oh, you're right. You're right. I don't know how much I could talk about that, but, you know, him just being an Ohio State guy, me being a Michigan guy, we're already butting heads off the start, and you don't want that starting out with your first head coach. Hey, who gives you problems? Long-arm guys?

Shorter guys? Athletic guys? Powerful guys? You're talking about tackles? Yeah. Shorter dudes. Just because I'm 6'6", so, I mean, they're naturally already under me in everything.

So it's like, that's always a little bit tough. Do you work with any, like, pass rushers or anything like that? Do you work on anybody? Who's film do you watch? Do you watch film, I assume? I do. I watch a lot of profile. I watch a lot of TJ.

I mean, you've got to watch TJ. I mean, he's the best in the business. That's what I'm saying. You kind of look like a what? Another what? Is that a compliment? What is that? What is what? TJ, what? JJ, what? Beer? What? Another what? What is that? What is what?

TJ. What? JJ. What? Beer. What? Whiskey. What?

Vodka. What? Tequila. What? Hutchinson. What? That's what it sounds like it looks like. Okay.

All right. Well, I didn't know you guys were so synchronized with that. Yeah, that's what we do for a living. Yeah, it's terrible every single time. What you do is much better than us, but do you try to learn from tj and is there any other guys who watches i mean all those dudes that are so um big names and and i mean you watch the film and and they're a big name for a reason you know they're so elite with their hands and and and their get-offs and and and all that so um you know i have a i just try to take little bits and pieces and add it to

my own style the game that you can learn out there as a pass rusher is insane. I got a chance to watch Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeman. Now Mathis is doing entire camps trying to give game to people. Yeah, going forward. It's called the Gridiron Gang. And watching just the little tricks that you pick up on getoff, like what he's looking at for getoff. It's so little.

It's just the littlest things that can make a difference. It changes your entire career potentially. It's crazy. And TJ said he turns off the TV and he just has – or he turns off all the lights and just has the sounds of the quarterback in his cadence for the next game. He listens to like three games of the guy just his cadence to try to catch on to his beats.

That's like the next level shit. Oh, yeah, that's huge. That's whenever you have nothing but football to do. That's right. School, Michigan school, tough. Did you graduate? I graduated. I graduated.

Thank you. Thank you. It was no joke though. It was no joke, though. It was no joke. In the kinesiology program as well. Geez. What's that mean? Movement science.

Don't worry about it. PT, whatever. Yeah. You can be a gym teacher. You don't go number one overall. Go be a gym teacher. That's right. Out of Michigan.

I'll go back to my old high school. Well, good luck with everything. Good luck with the training. Good luck with the combine. Good luck with whatever car you pick from autotrader.com, obviously. All right. Thank you for that plug right there. Hey, listen, man. Good luck with whatever car you pick from autotrader.com obviously. Alright. Thank you for that plug right there. Hey listen man I want you to get as much money as possible.

You're going to get a lot of money tackling people and making plays. You're going to get even more money. What up Austin? You're going to get even more money from the auto traders of the world if you can move some cars. That's right. So Aiden Hutchins let's move some goddamn cars and good luck in the draft. Real quick. I have a pretty good pass set. Just didn't know if you wanted to maybe have a little bit of a get-off.

A little bit of a situation. I've been working with a lot of guys. NFL coach, no big deal. Never really got a chance, but I mean I think we should go. Yeah, we should give him a shot. Wait, wait. No, he's going to pass that. He wants you to rush the pass.

Yeah, yeah. Careful. Give him the handheld. Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. Careful. Don't get hurt. Give him the handheld. Oh, boy. Oh, no. Right in my kitchen. Watch out for the table. You got it, Aiden. Give him a cadence.

Give him a cadence, Ty. Good at T. Good at T. Say, hut, hut. Look at him. He's already around you. See that? He's coming back upfield. He's coming back upfield.

Watch him down. Sorry. He's going to upfield. Watch him down. Sorry. He's going to retrace. That was amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, Aiden Hutchinson. Thank you. Good job, man. Thanks, man.

Appreciate it. Appreciate it, man. Hey, you're going to be awesome. Congrats. Good luck with everything. Hey, you too, dude. Big fan. Big fan.

Welcome back to the Pat McAfee Show. We're live from Radio Row in Los Angeles, the convention center, which is sponsored by Crypto.com, just like everything else in this city. We're on the FanDuel stage, and we're having a great time. Being joined now by a Hall of Famer, an icon, a legend. And anytime your story is made into a movie, and it's incredibly well-received, that has to be a great thing to put underneath the belt. Ladies and gentlemen, Kurt Warner.

What's going on, guys? How we doing? Kurt, first of all, you look so cool. Well, thank you. Thank you. I didn't have any sleeveless T-shirts to wear. No, no, no. So I had to throw this on.

How many do you own? Is that one of those things like you see in the movies where one guy goes in, he's got all his black suits? Do you just have all these 50 to 60? 50 to 60. Same exact ones. You just pull it out every day. Okay, I like it. You gotta have your thing.

Me and Steve Jobs, we decided we didn't want to waste energy in the morning picking out our costumes every single day. I have 50 to 60 of these. The way I pick which ones i want which ones how much cat hair is on each one you know i've got dogs and cats you wash them they're black it's going to happen though you look incredibly cool we're hoping maybe the silver jacket which was quite a buzz how did that become a thing and uh where is that thing right now it should be in

canton isn't that the most amazing thing is that you get into the football world and you think okay and have people watching you to hear your analysis. And the amount of time that they talk about what you wear, you know, so for that game, you know, I live in Arizona, so I don't have any cold weather gear. So every year I got to go buy a new coat just to do a TV game. And so my wife was just on, hey, you like this one? I'm like, oh, yeah, I like the silver one. Let's do it.

Because you always got to make a statement when you're on TV. But it took on a life of its own, obviously. And we had a lot of fun with it. But it worked out well with the promotion of the movie and people talking about it. And you got to be able to laugh at yourself sometimes, you know? Hey, it was great marketing. Exactly. You didn't do it on purpose, clearly, it sounds like.

But in the end, great marketing. That jacket was talked about by everybody and then immediately followed. Oh, is movie also out or coming out at the exact time? And we have chatted about this on the show. We thought there was no chance this movie had any chance. No, listen, Kurt, you know. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you.

Kurt, not your fault. Not your fault. You've seen the, I don't want to say like the bullshit corny, the practice of football is terrible, the storyline. They try to take your very good story and Hollywood it and turn it into this whole thing. The conversation around the movie has been the complete opposite. And I want to let you know from all of us, very impressed by that. Nice job, Kirk. Thank you.

And trust me, that was my concern as well, especially being a man of faith. A lot of people have seen the Christian movies that are kind of corny on top of that. And then you get the football and you go like, okay, we're going to take this actor and try to make him into a Hall of Fame quarterback. That's not going to work. And so there's all these things that you worry about in making the movie. And you just say, man, we just don't want to lose anybody with those different pieces.

And I think there is an unbelievable balance in the movie. But more importantly, as you said, it's a true story. Yeah. And it's not just my story. It's my wife's story. It's not just my story it's my wife's story it's my son's story who was injured when he was four months old and how all of the underdogs kind of connect in our family and that to me is where the power in this movie is is that you can go as a football fan and you get some great football stuff but you can go as a mother or a

father or in a relationship and you can gain so much more and so much more depth from this movie and that's why I believe everybody that's gone and seen it has had a positive review. I've seen one negative, with all social media. Ah, you'll see it though. No, but I've had one negative comment and that was somebody that just wanted the story to be a little different. Like, your brother

wasn't in it enough and stuff like that. Like, okay, I'm sorry. We couldn't tell everything. We'll do a 15-hour breakdown of this thing. Yeah, exactly. So we are extremely happy, and we know that it's impacted people, which is exactly the movie we wanted to make. And so I look forward to hearing from all you guys when you get a chance to see it. Yeah, I'm going to watch it next week.

The wife actually already downloaded it for the computer for a flight over to an island I'm going to go disappear on after the season. But the crossover, you know, looking for that crossover from sports into the mainstream, whatever you're talking about. Even if you're not a football fan, you'll be able to love the entire story. It's amazing. We talked to Marshall Falk yesterday. Okay.

And we got him early, and he was here for San Diego State, the new Snapdragon Stadium. And we asked about you, obviously, and he, hey. I love that dude. I was about to say, I don't know if you got a chance to watch it, and I hope somebody around you clips it and shows it. The way he responded and the way he lit up talking about you was amazing, and I think AJ and I both.

He said you're the best human he knows. I think he said that a long time. It was awesome, but it was genuine. It was his natural reaction too. And I, thinking about your underdog story and going into the locker room and the way you break down and analyze games, I feel like being a good teammate was a massive part of your entire thing, right? And do you think that's changing at all in the modern era? But don't you think that has to be a part of

it, especially when you're a quarterback? And the thing that you realize is leadership can look a lot of different ways. There's not just one cookie cutter way to lead. But I always felt like no matter how you did it, you have to be authentic in it people have to believe that what you're selling is true to who you are and that's kind of how I always live my life you know even when I'm an analyst you're gonna get the honest truth if you don't like it or if it's my team and you know you're a player and you're like oh he's I'm just telling you what I honestly believe and what I honestly feel and that's the same way that I tried to live my life is I'm just going to be me. And I'm just going to be real in the way that I'm real.

I think the way that you're real on this show, why it has such the effect is because when somebody sees you off the set, when somebody sees you in a different place, out of the huddle, they go, oh, that guy's not any different. He's the exact same guy just in a different you know in a different role and so that to me was always key is getting people to go all right we want to know who you are i want to know what you're about and then lead us that way and then you know again it's probably different than other guys have led and um but for me it was about connecting with those different guys and saying hey you'll get this every time with me, whether we're on the field or off the field, whether it's with my wife or it's with my teammates, you're going to get the same guy.

And you can say you got one of these. You do got one of those. Go ahead, AJ. How did, like, did anything change after, you know, the underdog story? It's unbelievable. You come in, boom, you win a Super Bowl. Did any of your preparation change? Did you ever find yourself strained from, like, okay,

how do I still have a chip on my shoulder? How do I still play this underdog role when you were thrust into the limelight and you dominated and were so good? You know, the funny thing is, is that I was not the chip guy. Like, even though, you know, all the things were against me. You know, the bottom line for me was. Oh, you had no spite in you? No. Oh, I'm a big spiker. Well, because here was the thing is I think you always have to be realistic about your own situation.

Like, I could have been mad at everybody. Like, why didn't you see I was so talented? Why didn't you think I was so good? I sat on the bench for four years in college, you know, and then I got a little chance here, and then I get cut, and I'm playing arena. And it's like, why did I think people were going to come to the grocery store and go, dude, you need a chance? Or, you know, play in arena football and go, oh, you just happen to be the one guy we'll pluck and play in the NFL. So I understood what my story was.

So I wasn't mad at anybody. Granted, I wanted that. Like, somebody give me a chance, and I'll show you. But it was never like, oh, I'm mad at you because you didn't, or my college coach because I sat on the bench for four years. I understood there were things I needed to learn and things I needed to get better at so I could be the player I was when I finally made it.

So I was never the guy that was always looking for a chip. Bottom line for me is I love to play the game, I love to compete, and I wanted to be great. And that, to me, was enough. Whatever you think you can think, I just want to be great in this moment when I have a ball in my hands. And that was enough motivation for me. Last question before we let you go, and we know you're very busy, and we appreciate you stopping by. I mean, you're Kurt Warner.

I don't know what that means, but thanks for having me on. Well, you're Kurt Warner. You have a movie about you, dude. Hey, you need to look in the mirror. I know you don't got any spite for anybody, but there's a lot of people that are wrong. There's a lot of people that are wrong, and you've become an absolute monster. What do you think about Joey Burrow? I feel like he's an old-school guy. Do you get the same feeling?

Is that how quarterbacks kind of view him? I do. It's so funny that I had a chance to interview him this week, and he's so low-key. We have this perception because he's got the silver puffy jacket like me. Where's the glasses? And he's got the bling. And so you kind of expect when you sit down with him, like, man, here's going to be this guy. And he's just like, hey, it's cool.

I'm here. I'm excited. I knew I would be good. And so I just love the idea that you know what we're making into a big deal he doesn't see as a big deal he's just like i just play ball and i'm good at playing ball and i'm confident in myself but i there's not an air about him at all and i do love i love that part of it that he is extremely confident you know very much like me i was stocking shelves in a grocery store, and I'm like, I can do this.

I can play. I can throw darts. You know, I'm not going to run around and, you know, here, point at me, look at me. But you have that inner confidence. And that's what I love about Joe is that I also think a little of the adversity. He was a guy that sat on the bench in college, had to transfer from one school to another.

You know, the injury that he's been through some adversity. And so I don't think these moments overwhelm him because you realize, oh, I've been through some life before, and this is just a football game at the end of the day. But he's been so great in the big moments, and we just need more guys at that position that play great in the moment. And, you know, him and Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes now, I mean, get excited about what we're going to see for the next decade,

especially on the AFC side of things. Hey, what's going on with Kyler over there in Arizona? Hey, listen, we don't have time to do it. You guys know more about that stuff. No, no, no. You know what it means whenever you delete somebody out of your life. I mean, you don't have to know social media to know that. You're here with TiVo.

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Easy. It just made life easier for everybody. Wow. He's such a pro.. You go. Go to Tevo.com. Amazon. $29.99. One time. Easy. I just made life easier for everybody. Wow. He's such a pro. Let's go. Let's go. True underdog story. Tevo.

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Right? You think they're out? Look at this. They're right back in. Hey, that Joey Burrow going through adversity, that was a house built on a solid foundation on sand. Feels like that's what adversity brings you.

We can't thank you enough. Ladies and gentlemen, NFL Hall of Famer, Super Bowl champion Kurt Warner. Thank you, Kurt. Kurt, how you guys are doing? You guys are great. Hey, you're the best. Is a man who I have seen work up close and personal. Incredibly talented, incredibly electrifying.

A man who got his ass beat by Roman Reigns at the Royal Rumble a few days ago. Looking to get his stake at claim at the Elimination Chamber in two weeks. Ladies and gentlemen, Seth freaking Rawlings. Yeah, Seth! Hey, I know musically. I know musically. I know musically. Yeah.

It's fine. It's fine. I don't know if I want to shake your hand right now after what I just heard coming out of your mouth. I'm a truth talker, dude. I'm a truth talker, dude. Alright, I'm gonna do this. Hey, hey, who's the man? Huh? You're the man. Right there, pal. The headset's right to your left. You've been there, done that. The suit looks amazing.

Wow. Hey. Suit looks amazing. Get a full zoom. Oh! Like the whole Brian Kelly deal. The slow-mo cam. Do we have that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. with the music. Get the gat, get the gat. We can do that entire thing.

Seth Freakin' Rollins, obviously WWE superstar, former champion, looking to do that once again. Obviously dressed fantastically. Seth Freakin' Rollins, how you doing, pal? Welcome to Super Bowl Radio Row. Oh, thank you for having me. You know what? You stand a lot. That is my first question. You stand a lot. And as someone who falls down for a living. Oh, I get it. How does your back hold up for hours on end standing up? I couldn't do it. I had to

get a chair out there. There's no way. Well, I think the reason why you have to sit down is because your back, you know, you, especially there for a while, there was like a good three to four year run where it appeared as if every time you got into a ring, you were trying to kill yourself. You would do a superplex into another plex. You would do a jump into another thing flying around. I think your back is going to be damaged much more than mine, probably forever if I had to guess. With that being said, with that being said, I used to sit down for every show before I did that War Games match, huh? That's right. Then I go off the top of the cage,

T1 to T7. Can't even walk. Now I've got to stand. That's what it's like. Yeah, that is what it's like. It's true. It's rough. It's rough and tumble, man.

How long have you been professional wrestling? Oh, what year is this now? 22. 22. We lost a year there in 2020. I don't know. It's been like 18 years. First love, First love?

Full love? No, no, no How long? Yeah, I mean it's the whole thing Everything I've been a fan since I was four Since the moment I saw Hulk Hogan rip his t-shirt off I had the toothbrush I had the wrestling buddy

I had the whole deal And I never looked back Never wanted to do anything else And where are you from? What state? Iowa The great state of Iowa, my man You know John Wayne Gacy?

Sounds familiar. Yeah, he's been here in Waterloo, Iowa. That's a whole other story. Great city. Waterloo, great city. But you're a big-time Bears fan, right? Yeah, born and raised in Davenport. We have some teams around. You know, the Packers are up north, the Vikings

way up there, the Chiefs off to the west. But most people in the Quad City area, Chicago Bears fans. So your whole life wrestling and football? Because every time I talk to you backstage, I get a chance to chat, your passion for the Bears is real. And the Bears stink. So that's kind of tough, you know. So every conversation is always a negative one. I know.

We had a little window there during the Lovie Smith years. We had a little window where we were very good. Now just a lot of hope and failure every single season. It's a lot of disappointment because I think, oh, we're so close. We're right there. We're right on the cusp. At that 500, we just got a break and then we had the Matt Nagy rookie season

and everything was looking good and then the double doink and then it's just it's been a shit show. Can I say that? Can I say that on the show? Well, I don't know if actually probably not. We're going to take him down. Oh, shit. Oh, no. Did I just ruin the whole thing? I don't know. We got to ask.

Yeah, you can say whatever fuck you want to. Yeah, you got that whole thing figured out. Cool, cool, cool. Yeah, it's been all down hills since there. So, woo. Yay, Bears. Great. Go ahead, there. So, woo, yay bears. Go ahead, AJ. So when you're watching, you said 18 years.

How old are you? I am 35 years old. Jeez, you're so young. So you knew early on. When you were playing other sports, you think it helps you as a wrestler? Do you play basketball? Do you play football, baseball, anything like that? So, yeah, I played all those things growing up until I was like 14,

and that's when I just dove headfirst into pro wrestling. I was in my backyard doing Cactus Jack off that what it was really so that and then did you get noticed from that or like how did you eventually get into it then no so let me answer your first question because the competitive nature of team sports or individual sports I think translates very well to professional wrestling now I have a wrestling school in Iowa and I find black and brave wrestling black and brave wrestling academy and Brave Wrestling. Black and Brave Wrestling Academy. And I find that the kids that I train who never had any background in anything sporting, they have a long way to go to figure out the competitive and the physical aspects.

Hey, we can get into this life too, by the way. Okay. Yeah. So that's a whole different thing. Yes. So it does help in that regard 100%. And just the coordination and timing, hand-eye stuff. Spatial awareness, learning how to fall.

Yeah, learning how to move your body through space, all that stuff. And then by the time I was 14, we're talking attitude error. So we're talking DX, Stone Cold, NWO, and WCW. And I was just in love. I couldn't do anything else. So we had a trampoline, and me and my friends, we would just bounce around. We were putting on shows in our backyard. I wanted to get trained.

I always wanted to get trained. I never wanted to be one of those guys who got into the industry and had kind of a black ball, like, oh, he never got trained. He just got in on his own. That's a big thing, right? It is. It is, yeah. Paying your dues, respect for people who put in the time, all that stuff. So I actually went and got trained.

I moved out to Philadelphia in a car. I packed up all my crap. I went out there, and I was going to get trained by CM Punk. CM Punk, who was a big star in WWE, now works for the other company. Oh, boo! And the Jaguars stink, too. But I didn't have the money. I had no idea how to live on my own because I never went to college.

I couldn't even do my own laundry. I didn't know what I was doing. You were a bag of bugs. I was an idiot, yeah. So I ended up not having the money. I ended up moving back. And so I ended up training out of a shipping warehouse in Chicago in the dead of winter in 2014. And so it was freezing cold.

I trained with a local independent guy. His name was Danny Daniels. That might be DD. Yeah, Double D. And he taught me everything I know about the business for the most part. Now you're doing that for other people. Yeah, yeah. Once I got to WWE, I moved back to Iowa after I was done living in Florida.

And I had a guy who I broke in with who had given up on it and he was doing some teaching and stuff, but he still loved the industry and he wanted to give back. And I was like, Hey, let's do this, man. Let's make a school. Let's make a place where kids can go and get trained and learn and learn the right way. They're not going to get, you know, railroaded out of cash. None of that stuff. They can go, they can learn. I'll be there. I'll do the best that I can, but you can handle it all. And so he's the brave and the black and brave. My old independent name before I got to WWE was Tyler Black.

That's where the black and brave comes in. He's the brave. He handles most of it. We've been doing that for seven years now. We've trained roughly 200, 100 to 200 people. Some of them stuck around and done alright. It's awesome. Pat Anger, former tag team champion.

Yes! I'm a big fan of pat yeah that is from bettendorf which is right there connected to davenport and he did some shows and came in and worked at our school and stuff like that and and loved it he um i think he teamed with steve manders who was a fullback for iowa um a few years back he actually played with big e he was buddies with big even big he was there so. So, yeah. So, Big E, obviously in the New Day, the greatest clique in the history, or faction in the history of wrestling.

One of, one of. Listen, I heard Michael Cole. Michael Cole only speaks facts, and when the New Day came out, because he is actually the WWE fact box, and when New Day came out, he's the greatest group in the history of WWE. Ah, there was a little group called The Shield that I was a part of

that I think was the greatest of all time. You look at where we're at now. You know, come on. No offense to Big E, Kofi, and Mr. Wood. Yeah, but you tore that entire thing down like a savage asshole in Indiana right in front of my face. Indianapolis. That is correct.

A lot of history there. But, yeah, for the greater good, right? I mean, look where Roman Reigns is at now. The greatest of all time. One of. Greatest of all time look where Roman Reigns is at now. The greatest of all time. One of. Greatest of all time. Look where Mox is at now. Look what he's doing.

One of the greatest of all time. And me, I am here on your show talking all about it. So I think everybody's doing just fine. Just fine. Look where the New Day's at. What are they doing? Are they here sitting on your show? Are they the greatest of all time?

No. Absolutely not. Who is greatest of all time? So I'm Absolutely not. Who is greatest of all time? So I'm just saying. Who is greatest of all time? Let me hear Mount Rushmore, you think, in your head. Are we talking wrestling or are we talking drawing money? Because those are different things.

Oh, no, because I've been told that's the same thing. Well, in our business, which is the entertainment business, money drawing is the biggest thing. And that's why everybody talks, right? All the old heads, whenever they start talking. So if we're talking there, you've got to start with Hogan. You've got to put Cena in there. Rock and Austin. What?

What? What? Excuse me? What? What? I don't know what words are coming out of your guys' mouth right now. It's not me. What?

What? It's not me. What? What? What is in that? That is not tea. What? What is happening?

You're just making noises indiscriminately. This is green tea. What? This is my cell phone. What? You're in a suit. What? We're talking into microphones.

What? Everybody else being forced to hear us. What? Because they built our stage a little bit higher. What? In front of the bullpen. What? They all hate us.

What? That's why. What? That's your Mount Rushmore. What? What? That's the one. That's the money drawn around Mount Rushmore. What? What? That's the one. That's the money drawn around Mount Rushmore.

Now let's go in-ring talent. In-ring, all-time. Shawn Michaels. Okay. Eddie Guerrero. Oh, viva la razza. Brett the Hitman Hart. Oh, the best there is.

Oh, no. Oh, man. Bob Beckman. Mongo. You know what? This is a controversial one, and he may not get his – Say Mongo? Yeah, Mongo.

Somebody drop a Mongo. Hey, hey, bear. Chicago Bears Super Bowl champion. I will not discriminate against Steve Mongo, McMichael, a legend, an absolute legend. Icon, yeah. Absolute legend. Not going to make this Mount Rushmore. Wow.

Real close, though. But if you want to make a Mount Rushmore of former NFL stars that crossed over into professional wrestling. Mongo. He's the big face. Mongo number one. Mongo number one. We agree. All right.

Number four, controversial pick because he's still active, Brian Danielson. I actually think in-ring is one of the greatest of all time. And I think when it's all said and done, he'll be up there with the guys. Yes. Yes. That's the thing. Yes. That's the thing. Yes, that's the thing. What? What? I don't know. Yes.

Yes. What? What? What? Yes. Yes. Listen, there is hundreds and hundreds of people out here that are excited to listen to you talk. Ryan Shazier is one of them. Absolute superstar stud. Inspiration there. But how does it feel to be like Pat Anger and his family look up to you as one of their gods that they pray to at night?

Ty Schmidt out of Iowa, big wrestling fan. Seth Rollins, you are his Seth freaking Rollins. You're his hero. Now, you're a bit of an asshole on camera, obviously, a little self-indulged in the suits you wear are hilariously despicable. But how does it feel knowing that you are laying the groundwork for the next generation like people look up to you? Because that's a big deal in the entire wrestling business. You said as soon as Hulk Hogan ripped his shirt, you were in.

For me, as soon as I saw Steve and Rock talk the way they were talking and I thought the money they were making, they were making, I was like, well, that's what I want to do whenever I grow up. You're that for a lot of people right now. Have you thought about that, obviously? Yeah, you know what? When you do it day to day, it's really hard to get lost in that. But when you step back and you have a minute and you think about it,

what happened for me, there was, you know, we talk about big moments. Wrestling is all about moments. It's the things we remember as kids. And one of them, one of the most iconic ones for me, and this was before my time, but was Hogan slamming Andre. WrestleMania III, Pontiac Silverdome, 93,000 people. Huge moment, right? I said when Boogs did that to Shanky the other night,

it's like Hulk Hogan with Andre the Giant. Oh, watch your heart. Yeah, it was not good. I got killed for it. I got killed for it. His front end smacked down, and that was similar feats of strength. Yeah, yeah. Big guy, big guy.

Ish, ish, yeah. Shanky's a large individual, not quite Andre's size. Either way, that's not even the comparison. But so somebody told me a few years ago that my Money in the Bank cash-in at WrestleMania was like their generation's Hogan slamming Andre. And that, like, pew. Pretty cool. That blew my mind.

That blew my mind. It is so hard to look at myself as not just this kid that grew up in Iowa who likes to just hang out and watch football on Sundays and watch my grandpa in the corner freak out every time Cade McMount threw an interception or something. So I'm always that person. I'm never that person that ran down and the biggest event and cashed in and made this moment for somebody that inspired them. I i can't i can't do that i can't be that person like in my

head for those that don't know uh he won money in the bank and he had his money in the bank briefcase which has a contract in it that he can cash in and basically on the champion it means any champion at any time it just so happened to be main event of wrestlemania in san francisco i believe santa clara and he came sprinting out at the end. Who'd you curb stomp? Was it Roman? I got Roman, yeah. That guy that you love so much that you said beat me up. He owed me one,

to be fair. He owed me one for that. Yeah, I mean, you build up calluses on Roman, the God of New Orleans. I think one of those things is there. Hey, shoot Convo real quick. Nobody knew that was happening, I was told. I think that whole moment is so magical because literally nobody knew that was happening is michael cole told me he had no idea that was michael cole had no idea that that was happening there was a small room i would say less than less than 10 people for sure like five or six knew that that was

happening that's the interesting thing about the business now that i've gotten a chance to know and the way i they don't i don't know anything going into a show and it's actually good like there's some times where some conversations even start taking, and I remove myself. This happened recently, I think, maybe at the Royal Rumble. I was Michael Cole, who was asking for details about what was going on, and Pat was there, and then he just wandered off. And I was like, what the heck?

And Michael was like, he just doesn't want to know. And I was like, oh, I dig that. I like it. Well, because you get the genuine reaction, right? Yeah, and I think that was about you coming out to the Shield music and doing the entire thing. Oh, yeah dig that. I like it. Well, because you get the genuine reaction, right? Yeah, and I think that was about you coming out to the Shield music and doing the entire thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think if I would have known beforehand, it wouldn't have been as big as a walk. And you came out so far.

Well, you walked 10 miles to get to the ring. It was a long walk. It was a long walk. But you saw me beforehand getting my head wet in the thing. Yeah, you tricked me. You tricked me into the fist. I didn't know what he was doing. Hey, good photo, too.

And then he got it. Yeah, yeah. Hey, it's with Nate K. They got that photo. They put it all over the internet, too. I'm part of the show. No big deal. Go ahead, Ty.

Seth, is there anything you had to do differently to get through COVID? I mean, we saw Pat when he was going to do it, and obviously you guys feed so much off the energy of the crowd. How weird was it being in there when no one's in there? Because I assume, you know, since you were doing the indies and stuff like that, like, you haven't been in an arena where there's next to nobody in there. So that was great practice for me. When I was on the independents, now listen, for the first six years of my career,

I was not in WWE. I wrestled in local independent promotions all across the country. Hot dogs. Yeah, so I was getting paid by hot dogs and handshakes. I was setting up tearing down rings. I was selling T-shirts to try to make money to do whatever I could to get myself from town to town because I was losing tons of money, whether it was Cleveland, Minneapolis, Denver. What?

All the towns, yeah. I love it. I love it. I have to deal with this on Mondays every week for my whole life, and I want to come to this show and have to deal with you guys doing it. You're a seasoned vet. You're a seasoned vet. You're a seasoned vet. Yeah.

So that's why you can't talk like this. Yeah. I always wonder that. Why do people get mad about them saying what? Just change your cadence, right? Yeah, you have to change the cadence. That's the whole deal. So sometimes you just... And they go...

I give up. So point is, I wrestled on independence for years in front of nobody. In front of absolutely nobody. So when it came back to COVID times and we're in this empty warehouse and it's just stale environment, the falling down part hurt way worse. No question about it. Kevin Owens came off the WrestleMania sign, put his elbow right into the side of my ribs. I thought I was, I thought I broke every rib in my body. And Michael Cole was like, oh my God.

That was the only voice you could hear. Yeah, I was, I was done. oh, my God! That was the only voice you could hear. Yeah, I was done. Thankfully, that was the end of the match. But what did help me was knowing that no one was there. I'd been accustomed to that for half my career at that point, so I was able to just figure it out, talk it on the fly. I was just able to get into that mindset, I think, a lot better than maybe some other people.

And Kevin's the same way. He came from, Kevin Owens came from the same place that I did. Kevin Steen, you're talking. Kevin Steen. Yes, yes, yes. You're an absolute stud. He will try to kill himself to get a win at all costs. At all costs.

You said I would do that a few years ago. He does that every single night. It doesn't matter. Yeah, but you were, your bump card, right, that you were taking in those, that three, four year run was, I think as somebody who's been a fan for a long time, a lot of people were watching like, oh, Seth's not going to be able to walk. Seth's not going to be able to walk whenever he gets older.

Because I'll be like, what up, big dog? Good to see you, Usman. So that's literally what I thought while watching, but it was so electrifying, and you've only continued to keep it going. I'll be fine. I'm good. I got it. I'm smart now.

I got a daughter. I got to take care of myself for her. Thank you, Nats, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Dads, man. Dads. now. I got a daughter. I got to take care of myself for her. Thank you, man. That's my man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dads, man. Dads.

Dads. What? Yeah. What? How's that? Hey, the baby, the daughter, is going to be one of the most well-rounded individuals. I watched a documentary on Pink where she takes all her kids on tour with her worldwide, and I have happened to... It's going to sound creepy.

I've seen your baby at a lot of different cities. This is obviously... I think it's going to be great for the life experiences, though, getting a chance to get in there. Are you indifferent about that? Do you view it the same way? I think it's good for the whole thing. I mean, I hope so. I hope.

I mean, that's what we're telling ourselves, myself and my wife. We're telling ourselves, no, this is going to be great for her. She's going to be super developed. All these other kids are going to be stunted from COVID, and she's going to be just well-rounded, have met all these people and went to all these places and stuff. At the end of the day, she could be a sociopath. We don't know.

We don't know. We don't know. That's a roll of the dice. That's a roll of the dice. But she's awesome and she seems like she's not on that path. So she seems like she's on a nice, good path, a lovely path. She's friendly with everybody and I just saw a video. My wife just sent me a video there at the park and she already tried to kiss a boy so there's that oh wheeling and dealing out there that's where we're at we're already there

she's 14 months old i was told yesterday as a wow that's early i think i don't know the growth of babies but that feels like that is early shout out to your daughter just being an absolute boss out there um we're driving by uh two, three different RV homeless camps, getting back to the place where we stay here, and a stat was dropped. We're only three bad decisions away from potentially being in that RV. So just think about that as you're raising a kid, not necessarily a sociopath.

What is that stat? Where does that stat come from? That brain right there. That's fine. Why three? I don't know. It's something like, okay, he decides to, hey, let's try heroin. Oh, now I'm hooked.

Oh, then all of a sudden I lose my job because I quit. I don't like my boss. There's two. Boom. I'm in an RV on an overpass in LA. So that was three. Someone relayed that to me. I didn't come up with it.

Right. It sounds legit to me. Sounds like science. I'm with it. Yeah. It might be like the Aaron Rodgers version of science. Oh, shit. It might be like the Aaron Rodgers version of science. Oh, shit. It's quick.

Whatever works for you, you know? Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Seth, they just mentioned, you know, KO almost splitting you in half the other night during COVID. Have you ever gotten hurt in the ring? Or have wrestled with someone who's gotten hurt? And, like, what do you do? I've hurt people, unfortunately.

Oh, you're dangerous in the ring. Yes, that's what the internet says. Don't listen to them. But I've also been hurt quite a bit. I actually tore my entire knee in a match in Dublin on the first night of one of our international tours in 2015. I was the heavyweight champion at the time, finished the match, still was able to powerbomb Kane through a table. The mayor? Holy shit.

Yes, the mayor, Glenn Jacobs of Knox County. I was able to powerbomb him through a table with a torn ACL, MCL, and a destroyed meniscus. Although I'm sure the powerbombing probably did more to the meniscus. But, yeah, I tore the whole thing in a match. I broke my jaw early in my career, which was pretty wild. I got elbowed right on one of these sides here, and it just split it. it split it right down the center. Oh my god. I didn't know what happened I never had a broken bone in my life right so I thought like I dislocated it so the first thing I'm doing is trying to move

Now I get better it gets better so and then I'm noticing that it's okay if my mouth is open so if I'm like this Feels good, so I'm like this, it feels good. That's because that's where that was sitting in your... Correct. First moment of the match. I'm talking 30 seconds in. The guy pops me and it's broke. But what I didn't realize was when I closed my mouth, it was very painful.

I could feel it starting to pull apart. And it was ripping the gum in between my two teeth and it was pulling it apart. It was awful. So I had to wrestle the next ten minutes with my mouth wide open essentially. Did you go through the wire? No, because the break was in the center they didn't have to wire it shut. They just put

a bottom brace along my teeth. The bottom teeth there and they just held it together. And I had a small break up here but the main one was just right in the center there When you guys are traveling around is that stories you guys tell like how bad you got beat up and it's like I'm tougher Than you are I got this jaw Well, you can't I mean Vince tearing both hamstrings running into the ring Unbelievable

With it like Match I did that one match I I did, it hurt so bad. Literally so bad. My body hurt so bad. And I couldn't get up the next day. And I reached out to a couple people and I'm like, hey, is this what you guys go through every day? They're like, we hurt every day, yeah,

but your body will build up a little bit of callus. Anybody that gets in there is getting their ass beat at some point. And I think that is something that is not necessarily understood by the outside crowd. Yeah, I mean, there's some idea that it's fake or whatever. But yeah, the outcomes are predetermined. But the falling down is in no way fake. It's matte.

It's like that much matte, right? And then it's just wood and metal. That's it. That's all it is. It's wood and metal and like this much matte. So it feels like you're falling flat on the ground. And the older you get, the longer you do it, the more it hurts. The less people are there, the more it hurts.

It's not fun. It's just not a fun experience. When I was 18, I was in a Catholic gymnasium. We had a ring set up in there, and I was just jumping all over the place, flipping, flopping. I'd land on my back, on my head. Didn't matter. Get up next day.

I felt so sore. I was like, yeah, this is awesome. Now I'm 35, almost 36. If I fall down, I'm like, I may never get up. I may just never get up again. It's awful. It's not fun. Not a fun experience. Well, we appreciate your

sacrifice for our entertainment. And I do believe that is what I was referring to during the couple years. And you know what years they were, too. You have to in your head. Literally every time you went in there, you took 75 bumps every single time. And Superplex was the end of everything. And Superplex is one of the biggest. It was literally a double you would go into.

So I appreciate you doing that. I really do appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, to me, I've always thought that that's just what I can offer. That's what I do. You know, there's some guys who that's not their thing. They have to find other ways to get over. For me, my thing is my wrestling. And I'm an undersized guy.

Like, I'm 6'1". I'm a little over 200 pounds. I'm not. Like, I'm Shawn Michaels. I'm Bret Hart. I'm in that wheelhouse. I'm not the guys. I'm not these larger-than-life dudes that can just cut a promo and throw some punches.

I wish I was. If I was the guys, I'm not these larger than life dudes that can just cut a promo and throw some punches. I wish I was. If I was Shanky, this would be great. I would stand there, I'd flare my lats, and I would just chop somebody in the head and that'd be the end of it. But I'm not.

I gotta get over doing other stuff, and so that's the way it's gotta be. That's the nature of the business. But it's fun for me. I love it. I love it. And I think a lot of people watching right now that might not know who you are would

say, a guy just asked how the Gobble Ghoul is walking by, by the way. I don't know how. No Italians on the stage. You can't do that. Well,.01% of one person is Italian on stage. You can't do what you just did. Hey, listen. How's your family? It's gonna be bad. How's the Gobble Ghoul? Probably spoiled. You keep doing that, pal.

Hey, take it easy, huh? I know. Chuck's back there, too, behind you. Somebody calm him down. Relax. Oh, the Gobble Ghouls back here. Capricorn. It never ends. We appreciate your sacrifice, though, in that whole thing.

How do you think this game ends on Sunday? I assume you've been paying attention. Yeah. Bengals, Rams, Bengals story of the year. They don't have an indoor practice facility. They are that Catholic school that you were wrestling in for $0 with hot dogs somehow making it to the WrestleMania situation. What are your thoughts on the teams?

Who do you like? I mean, I'm rooting for the Bengals in my heart of hearts. Like I said, Iowa boy, Midwestern town, Cincinnati right there. I love it. But I just think the Rams have got it this year. Oh, geez. Yeah, in the head of heads, I think the Rams, they're too much talent on that team.

Too much talent. I think things would have to go sideways for the Bengals to win this one. Look, Joe Sheisty, is that the thing? Joe Burke, Joe Sheisty. He's going to win many Super Bowls, I think, in his career, for sure. Why do you think? Because Tom Brady won a bunch? It is hard to win a Super Bowl.

I agree, but I think he's got at least a couple in there, man. He's next-level talent. I hope so, man. Next-level talent I think he's got at least a couple in there, man. He's next-level talent. I hope so, man. Next-level talent. Peyton Manning probably had a couple in there, too. Fair, fair, fair, fair. It's different, you know. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know. But I think Rams got it this year. Yeah, I think Stafford, he's going to get one, man. All right, let's talk about what you have coming up in two weeks. Elimination Chamber. You're going against Brock. You're dead, so. Yeah.

Whoa. Whoa. So. Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. Uh-oh. I don't know if you know this, but I hold more pinfall victories over Brock Lesnar than probably any single person on our planet. Oh, stop that. I did not know that, but I don't think it's something we should be saying out loud. We can say it out loud.

I don't think we should be saying it out loud. You think Brock Lesnar's up in Saskatchewan listening to this show? Brock Lesnar, he's farming or something. Yeah, you're right. He's probably ice fishing right now. Yeah, dude. He probably is out in the middle of nowhere toughening up those hands so when he gets in front of Seth freaking Rollins, he can batter your face.

What are we doing? You think about backing out maybe? No. Brock Lesnar in an elimination chamber? Get me out of here. You are backing out right now for me. What is wrong with you? I'm not backing out. I gotta go win the WWE

Championship and take it into WrestleMania. I've done everything in my career. You know my resume. I don't gotta spit it all out. You're gonna say what a bunch of times anyway. But the one thing I've never done is headline WrestleMania as the champion. Stole the show with the cash in, which we discussed earlier, but I've never

gone in as the champ to headline. That I would love to do. Now, to do that, I've got to beat Bobby Lashley, Brock Lesnar, and all the other guys in the chamber. So it's going to be an uphill battle for sure, but Seth freaking Rollins. Look at this suit. Come on. I want to let you know, coming in, I thought you were a little bit of a psychopath.

Sociopath for sure. The way you speak on Friday nights. You know, that whole thing. But after talking to you here for like 20, 25 minutes, I like you. That's why I'm not trying to say back out for you. I'm trying to say, hey, we need you around. So why are you jumping into a pit of death, the Elimination Chamber, with said killer Brock Lesnar? It just seems like a bad idea.

I'm trying to look out for you. That's all, Paul. It's for the glory, man, for the glory of it all. We've got to take the title and go to WrestleMania two nights in Dallas, Texas. We know Roman's going to headline one night. Who's gonna headline the other night? It's gotta be me. It's gotta be me. It can't be Lashley. It can't be Lesnar. It's gotta be Seth freaking Rollins.

It's gonna be me. I hope so. Ladies and gentlemen, WWE Future Hall of Famer. Maybe. Oh yeah, by the way, I actually get yelled at every time I say, Future Hall of Famer for this. Oh, yeah. By the way, I actually get yelled at every time I say definite future Hall of Famer for this person.

They're like, maybe. Vince is in your ear. Well, it's not always Vince. It's somebody that drops in. We don't know if that's true or not. It is an amazing time. So I try to sneak that in

at least once a show just to see how many Hall of Famers I can create. Because if it's on air, just like, next time Shanky's out there, drop that one.

See how it goes. Hey. Boogs. Listen, Shank it's on air. Just like, oh, what do we do? Next time Shanky's out there, drop that one. See how it goes. Listen, Shanky's going to come around, right? He got picked up by a bitch. I got to stop hating on Shanky, man. I don't know. Dude, that live podcast they had them do the other day was quite an interesting thing. Wait, Shanky was on a live podcast? Live on SmackDown.

You were there. Jesus Christ. No, I was not there. What? I wasn't there. What? I'm a raw guy, man. I only came over to beat up Roman Reigns. That was it. Jesus Christ. No, I was not there. What? I wasn't there. What? I'm a raw guy, man.

I only came over to beat up Roman Reigns. That was it. Three weeks, and then I was gone. You know this? Come on. I did not know that because I thought you were over here. No, I wasn't there this week. I was on my couch watching the show, kind of, making sure my baby didn't run off the stairs or something, you know?

Well, come on back anytime. All right, cool, man. I appreciate that. And also, Brock's going to win your title and come back to our show, too. Ladies and gentlemen, an absolute superstar out of Iowa, Bears fan. Hopefully that'll turn around. And a man who is in a very dumb decision, still continuing to go into the Elimination Chamber in a couple weeks. Hoping he can get his chance to get a headlining spot at WrestleMania. Ladies and gentlemen, Seth freaking Ross.

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I can hear you loud and clear. Let's go. We've had some tech stuff. We had to get through some stuff with Super Bowl. That's what you got to do. It's great. I got to be honest with you. Traveling down there, my sister Constance, I stayed with her.

She lives in the Palisades. She brought me down. It's a little bit of a circus. No. Yeah, a little bit of a circus. It's cheesy. And yeah, doing the credential thing and this, that, and the other. I really like Zoom. Yeah, Zoom little bit of a circus. Oh, it's cheesy! Yeah, doing the credential thing and this, that, and the other. I really like Zoom.

Yeah, Zoom has changed the game. If I'm around in a year and we do this again. You're going to come in from the TV there? Yeah, I hope so. We're thankful you're here. You look great. Chuck, you look good. The hair, the tan. Hey, how's the gobble? How about it, Nick?

Yeah, it's absolutely great. It's really good. Whenever we Go! How about it, Nick? It's good. Yeah, it's absolutely great. It's really good. Whenever we're talking about this week, Chuck, you know, the Super Bowl is so hard to get to. It is very difficult to get to. There's only one winner every year. There's 31 losers every year. Everybody goes into off-season miserable. How are we going to get better next year?

There are some coaches that are obviously much worse off than others, but every coaching department that loses is trying to get better for the next year. That's what it's all about. Joey Burrow and these boys, they don't even know what they don't know. Once you get here and you see the circus and all the bullshit, and I guess they haven't really had to go through it, they're going to be isolated from it, but that is something that I don't think you fully

grasp as a young and just how grand the Super Bowl actually is. This is massive. Los Angeles makes it as such. How do you think they're going to kind of keep the boys away from that? Are you just going to have to address it head on, do you think? No, I saw them riding around on scooters. You know, when they first got here, I'm thinking, I don't think I want to lose one of my guys on Tuesday on one of these,

you know, birds or whatever those things are. But I think you said it best. They don't know what they don't know. So they're so young and they're so dynamic and they've got this unbelievable quarterback at the helm and Joey B., Mr. Cool. I think they're going to be fine because I think Zach Taylor, the head coach, is the same way. They've got a ton of experience on that coaching staff. Really good football team.

So would I be shocked if they came here and pulled this thing out and beat the Rams? No. Mick Vega's ass beat the last time he was in the Super Bowl by Bill Belichick. And I think he's actually openly said that. Is there something, too, Coach? And obviously, me and AJ know this is a yes. But whenever you dissect it, is there something, too, like in big moments, like kind of getting either having an off game or being a little tighter than you would expect?

And you think that helps McVay and the Rams because they've been there and lost in a situation? Or you think that helps Zach Taylor because he's never been or hurts Zach Taylor because he's never been in the Super Bowl? He has no idea that his entire legacy is going to be defined on how he coaches for the next 60 minutes. Do you think that's something that could happen? And who do you think it benefits more, Sean he's been there or Zach he's never been there?

No, it can happen. Yeah? I mean, going to play Foxborough AFC Championship game, once in Baltimore, once in Indy. No, you can blow it up and make it more than it is and get overwhelmed and get caught up in all the hoopla and this, that, and the other and forget about, hey, it's, you know, again, just what we do between the white lines when they kick the thing off.

But I think McVay, having been there, he's got the experience. But, again, I just think Zach is a smart guy and a really good football coach. And I don't think he'll be overwhelmed with it. I don't think his players will. You know, the initial stuff. But again, once the thing's kicked off, as you know, A.J. knows playing, it's just play ball, you know, and you get caught up in the whole deal and you really don't have time to figure that stuff out. Go ahead, AJ. With the two weeks leading up to it, to the Super Bowl, as a coach and coaching big games like that, how do you not have the whole paralysis by analysis

where you have so much time and you want to make sure you do, okay, let's open up a few new things we may have been holding on to or whatever. As coaching staff, how do they work through that to where we don't make this more than it really is? Yeah, great question because that's very you know, very easy to do. And you can overthink the thing and think, hey, we've got to do, it's the Super Bowl, we've got to do this, that, and the other to try to, you know, get after this team.

But that's the worst thing you can do. You've got to just be who you are. For a reason, right? No, just do what you did. You know, we always talked about do simple better. They've got good players. And what they've done to get here is going to be good enough. It's the team that comes in here and executes, take care of the football,

plays great situational football, and doesn't go in and say, hey, here's a whole new blitz package. Here's a new coverage scheme. Here's all these disguises. You know, we used to get ready to play Tom Brady, and we would go into that week saying, hey, we got to change all our signals on defense. All the coverage says this was boxed, that was quarters, had to play a bunch route, and so forth.

And we'd go in there, and the players are like looking at us like Ed Reed and Ray, and they're like, you guys are nuts. What are we doing? So by Friday, everything that we changed, we go back and get the old ones, and we're like, okay, F it. This is a bullshit. This is on me. I apologize. We wasted all this time on just that simple part of it.

So, yeah, you don't want to do that. You just go in and trust and rely on your fundamentals, your technique, and everything that got you to this point. So whenever you think about that big game and changing everything, the Seattle Seahawks, Legion of Boom, they had two weeks to prepare for Peyton. And I don't know if Peyton didn't change his signals, but it seemed like the Seattle Seahawks only worked on the signals for two weeks. And they had an incredibly, obviously a great Legion of Boom back there. Everybody was on the same page. And immediately from like the first night, I felt like, oh,

this defense is going to dominate this game. and they did that. Do you see that happening with this Rams team? Maybe this Rams team, this Rams defense, I mean, you've been around defense a long time. They got dudes everywhere. At every level, they got dudes. And everybody's talking about the offensive line for the Bengals. If you're that Rams defense coordinator, you've got to be thinking to yourself, hey, we can win this goddamn game ourselves,

right? That's kind of the mindset you've got to have going in there, you think? Yeah, and you don't have to rush any more than four dudes. If you want to sprinkle in a three-man rush and drop How do you like this new defensive style where everybody is just like, hey, we're dropping into a shell, basically. Do you like it or hate it? Well, I think it just depends on who you're playing and what you have to

defend. Bengals have so much fire power. That three-headed monster at wide receiver, the runner, the quarterback. So if you can rush four, which L.A. certainly can with Aaron and Leonard Floyd and Von Miller, and deploy seven into coverage and play man, mix in some zone, roll the coverage to, you know, to whoever, take away Jamar.

I mean, they can get after you with four. So if they want to mix in a pressure, they can mix in a pressure, but they don't have to. Hey, Bill Belichick, they say he always takes away your best weapon. Now, is the best way to take away the best weapon, put your dude on their dude? Or do you put your dude on their second dude and double their dude? So now

you have basically your best guy on their second option, then you got two guys on the main guy. Is that what Bill Belichick does? Is that what everybody does? So, like when he had his dude, if it was Bill, I think we've seen it certainly where we Is that what everybody does? Like everybody's saying Jamar and Jalen. That's not going to happen. When he had his dude, if it was Bill, I think we've seen it certainly where we go up there on T.Y. Yeah, you're not catching anything, and he doesn't.

Is that a dude, or is it because of two people, because of coverage? So it's a mix. I think it's a mix. You put your best guy on it. Stephon Gilmore, I think, was that dude. Put him on him. So you put Ramsey on Jamar. And then what you do is whoever your number two is, you put him on the other dude, you know, put him on him. So you put Ramsey, you know, on Jamar, and then what you do is

whoever your number two is, you put him on the other dude, and then you can lean the safety over that way. Or you can switch it up and put Jalen on the dude and put the safety over the top and leave everybody else on an island. Somebody's going to have a hard down. Somebody's going to have a hard down. What do you mean?

Defense, center, offense? Either one, but defensively, somebody's going to have a hard down and Jalen's going to be one-on-one and he's going to have some hard down. What do you mean, defense side or offense? Either one, but defensively, somebody's going to have a hard down, and Jalen's going to be one-on-one, and he's going to have some hard downs. Now, he's the best cover corner in the league right now. What do you mean by hard down? Probably coming after him, going to have to make a play. You've got to wear the hat, meaning it's just you and him, and you've got to defend that dude, and you've got no help,

no safety help, no nothing. You've got the whole field basically to defend. Because we have 10 other guys doing something vastly different than what you're doing right now. Yeah, so like a post safety. Like if he's going to take away Jamar, then they're going to take the safety and lean him over the other dudes. And you've got the whole field to cover.

So they've got one middle of the field over here, and it's just you and that dude. And that's why Revis and them is such a valuable thing because 10 guys can play their own defense, and then Revis just does his own thing. Absolutely. It's like the offensive line for Cincinnati. They're not going to be able to keep seven in all the time for protection.

They're going to need to chip and bam a pass rusher, this, that, and the other. But some downs, they're going to get five out, and those tackles are going to be on their own. They're going to be on an island. That's the funny thing. You've got to find where that matchup is, though. Who is going to win their matchup? If our main guy is getting doubled, how do we know who steps up? That's another thing also with all this time.

I'm curious, when you're a defensive coach and you're trying to take away, what if they have three or four weapons? We can't point to one exact dude. How do you cover everything when they do everything well? That's when we're saying you have the hard down. On this down and distance, in this front, in this coverage, you know, this guy's getting taken out, and the rest of you dudes, good luck. Have fun. It's like playing cover zero, but you don't have everyone blitzing. Like you have a lot of time to cover for probably.

Yeah, if you're going to go zero, you better have the – if they leave a tight end in, so what they'll do is they're going to see it. Osama, Osama. Yeah, they're going to keep in them in the backfield and it's seven man protection and if you don't bring the other guy down they did it to uh kansas city it was third and a million right yeah and they got jamar one-on-one with the corner on third and 27 third and 28 or whatever and it was cover zero but they left tyron in the middle of the field, and he had the tight end, but the tight end stayed in the block. So they had seven for seven, so you didn't have an out number.

You didn't have a free runner to go add on that thing, so he had time to get in the pocket, drift a little bit, drift away from the pressure, and throw that ball over the top. But if you're going to do that, then you get in a picket fence, and you've got three guys there, and you have to add the other blitzer. So when the tight end blocks, you're going to do that, then you get in a picket fence and you've got three guys there and you have to add the other blitzer. So when the tight end blocks, you trigger and you get the free runner because that guy can't block too. Without the free runner, you can't win.

Yeah, because the free runner is making the quarterback get antsy and make a decision before he has to. And throw under duress. Yeah, but Joe, I think what's been so impressive, that dude diagnoses before the snap. Big brain. Yeah, big brain on him. And how do you find that out, you think? I think what's been so impressive, he is cerebral. That dude diagnoses before the snap. Big brain. Big brain. Yeah, big brain on him.

And how do you find that out, you think? Like, obviously, Andrew Luck, everybody knew he was a genius, right? Literally since he was, like, in seventh grade, I think everybody was like, this guy's the next Stanford great. This is the next John Elway. This guy is a super genius. He's going to do this entire thing. Whenever they're trying to find a quarterback,

Matt Jones allegedly massive brain. Like, they're talking about his big old brain. And anybody that really has sustained success in the NFL at the quarterback position is incredibly bright and intelligent because they have to diagnose all the shit that you're trying to hide right there, bring an extra guy so he doesn't have time because everything's easy whenever you just have it drawn out in front of you and you have time. But when you have to make these, just like Solly landing the plane,

when you've got to make these decisions in real time, it obviously affects everything. Shout out to that court, by the Solly landing the plane. You've got to make these decisions in real time. It obviously affects everything. Shout out to that court, by the way, running that entire thing back. That son of a bitch had to make a tough decision in a very quick time. He tried to do his absolute best. Sorry he landed in the goddamn river. But anyways, Joe Burrow is able to figure things out before the snap. Why is that?

You just think some guys just naturally pick it up? Do you think it's because they've done it their entire lives? Or what is the understanding from some quarterbacks and not other quarterbacks? And do you know going in, like, hey, this motherfucker knows our shit. Like, this guy's going to know what we're doing. Well, I think when you talk to these head coaches and these personnel guys and GMs and they, hey, we knew this about Joey B. You know, Patrick Mahomes, you know, when he came out, Andy Reid spent two days, you know, with this guy on the board. So they're obviously going to vet these players. They talk to the coaches. They miss a lot. No, you do. You do. But you got to try to

turn every stone to figure this thing out. And I think it's easy for all of us to figure out who has not got the big brain, who's not cerebral, because those guys are holding the ball. The rush is coming. Their eyes drop. They got, you know, one in the progression. They can't go one, two, three, four, and then hit the check down. It's like curl, linebacker's there. If he goes to the flat, throw the curl. If he stays there, throw to the flat. Okay, well, what if they cover both those, all right?

Then just start freaking running. But I think it's easy for us to figure out who the guys that can't figure that out. But these guys are so good because they get to the line of scrimmage with plenty enough time. They give them, you know, snap counts. They put the leg up. They try to get the defense to show their hand. They're looking for tells, man zone, tells, all those kind of things. And then they get in their cadence, and then that's all pre-snap to try to get as much information as they can and if the defense does a great job which most

most of them doing i expect both these defenses to do that um you know then it's on the snap and then so the safeties are hanging hanging hanging you snap the ball and then is this guy coming down is this guy coming down are they staying split coming down? Or are they staying split safety, middle open, too high? So guys got to be very, very bright. Yeah, there's a lot going on in a lot of times. And then you got Aaron Donald and Buck Miller and Leonard Floyd. All these dudes. Most athletic, biggest, baddest, scariest dudes on earth are trying to kill you. Yeah, and your offensive line has proven.

Might let a couple guys through every once in a while. That's just kind of the way it goes. Seth Freakin' Rollins paid his respects to you for your time in Chicago, right? He's a big-time Bears fan. In Chicago, you got to play against Aaron Rodgers and, obviously, Matthew Stafford. So whenever you see Matthew Stafford go and have success at L.A., this is not a surprise, I think, to anybody that watched him play, right? And what are you seeing in that McVay offense that has maybe taken Matthew Stafford

to a different level, or do you think this is the same guy that we've always seen, just in a different opportunity? I think it's just that. He finally got to a team that has all the pieces and weapons around him. Obviously, McVay is really good at what he does and calling plays and putting Matthew in position. But here's an OG that can play. We all know he can play.

He is OG, dude. My draft class. He is phenomenal. You remember when we took the lead in 2016 in that opener against them, and they got the ball with less than two minutes. And bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, and we lose. I thought we came back to one in the last play. No, no, no.

We lost that one, unfortunately. I remember the bangers. But he's been playing really good football for a long time. So coming in here with the expectations that he came in here with, I mean, this was the savior. This was going to be the guy that, you know, because Goff couldn't get it done, obviously, and they bring him in, and then they add a piece here, a piece there.

But the quarterback's the dude, right? So he comes in here, and he quiets all the critics because I think every one of us, well, maybe not us on this show. Sounds like you, Dr. Lee. I don't know about that. Sounds like you. Hey, it's your time to chuckle. We're positive here. We're upbeat. We want to lift people up. We want to

serve people. We want to do all that stuff. But everybody was just waiting for him to fail. Especially in the playoffs. And he came through for them. He takes a soul too against the guy. So now he's got to do the same thing. He's got to walk out on that field on Sunday and just say, okay, same thing like we were talking, just let me be me.

Let me do my deal, not get all whatever, pressured up. He doesn't have to, you know, carry the whole thing. He doesn't have to win the game himself. So happy for Matthew. He's a good player. I do love the fact that there's two emojis attached to your wrist. You were just speaking right there, and literally you were just here. I love it.

Just two emojis right there. You know how the Italians communicate, right? You don't even. I've been following. And then it's pizza, and then it's gravy. And then we got a pasta. Sorry, buddy. I'm Italian.

Check my 23andMe. Yep. Can't believe they let us hang with you. Go ahead, bro. Listen, Chuck. I'm Italian. Check my 23andMe. Oh, yeah. Yep. Can't believe they let us hang with you. Go ahead, bro. Listen, Chuck. Listen. You've seen me in a lot of situations where they've never experienced something like me before. Imagine this.

Like, a lot of you've seen it internationally. A lot of Japanese people. Yeah, you've seen it. Still scratching their heads. Yeah. So, do you remember? Yeah, there's still stories being told. Oh, my God.

This guy was wild. But, yeah. Yesterday, there do you remember? Yeah, there's still stories being told. Oh, my God, this guy was wild. But, yeah, yesterday there was only like 20 shows out here, and we were just screaming right into all of them. So I'm happy there's a little bit of background noise, and it's not just us echoing through. But the way this is set up is very uncomfortable, and these people got to fucking hate us. They're coming through here.

They're going to listen to us yell. Then they got to go out through here. I mean, it's not. What are they going to do? What are you going to do? Hey! Sorry about it. Sorry about it. I mean, it's not. What are they going to do? What are you going to do? Sorry about it. Sorry about it.

Go ahead, Ty. Coach, going back to the Bengals O-line and the Rams D-line, conventional wisdom says that, you know, you let your quarterback get sacked nine times, you're not going to win, period. But they've kind of been saying that every week about the Bengals. Like, oh, well, their O-line's terrible. They can't win. Is there anything the coach can say this week leading up to, like, I don't know,

like light a fire under their ass, or is it kind of a situation where they know that they can't play like that and probably win on Sunday, and it's kind of just like, hey, we're going to have to go out there and play the best game of our lives? Yeah, I don't think any of them in this period of time, you know, this week is going to turn into Jonathan Ogden. They are what they are. So I think the way that – no, I mean, he did get sacked nine times. You bury so many people, Jess.

No, I'm just saying they're good players. They're in the National Football League. They're good players. And there's good players on the other side of the line of scrimmage too that you have to block. So I think the thing that will help them is establish the run game, right? Hand the ball to Joe as much as you can, mixing. Run the football.

Get the ball out of Joe B's hand. Throw some screens. Throw some quick game. You know, you've got all these playmakers on the edge. Run some fly sweeps, some jet sweeps. And then when you've got to drop back, you know, hopefully stay at a third and long, you know, and you're third and manageable, and you can block those guys up. And, yeah, so, yeah, you're not going to change those guys overnight.

But I think as much as they've heard, you know, myself now included, and everybody else been on their, you know, ass about playing well, you know, they're going to come into this game with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove. Wow, listen, and then if they start reaching, though, you know, you reach, I teach you. Aiden Hutchinson got a pretty good get-off on me earlier. I don't know if you saw it.

He flipped his hips on me. I mean, we were on his screen, so he picked up 15. He's going to be a good boy. Those guys are pretty impressive out there. Hey, just real quick, I know us Italians maybe like to make a little wager on some things every once in a while. Who do you like this week? I think it's four and a half, four, four.

Yeah, whatever you like. I'm not a betting man, but. No, no, of course not. Because they got teasers, right? Sure. What if we teased like the Bengals up to 11? Well, you have to do something else, too. No, well, then let's tease the over-under down to like 40, 41 and bet the over.

You're not a gambling man. Nope. Welcome back to the show here. Didn't just run to the bathroom. Didn't take a break when you didn't need to take a break strictly because my bladder almost exploded. But whenever you're running

around down here at beautiful Radio Row in Los Angeles, you're going to see so many incredible people. It's hard not to dap up a lot of folks. Hank Baskett just stopped by, former teammate of mine. Great to see him joining us now. We look hard not to dap up a lot of folks. Hank Baskett just stopped by. Former teammate of mine. Great to see him joining us now. And we look forward to this every year. This has become an annual thing.

Do you know that? I'm honored. I'm honored. We're honored. I'm honored. Here to chat about the greatness of Cadenwood CBD, ladies and gentlemen, Carson Palmer. Yeah! Carson Palmer.

How's it going, dude? Great. Great. You look great in that T-top, man. You always look good in that T-top, though. Well, I just told you, you look like you're in incredible shape right now. Thin down, you're on a good diet, working out. Level select CBD. Oh.

Let's me get back in the gym. Oh. I'm trying to get some pipes like AJ. It's just not in the cards. Let me tell you about this psychopath. Let me tell you about this psychopath. Yesterday, we have a gym in the house we're staying in, right? He wakes up, obviously, 4 a.m., whatever it is.

He's clanging and banging down there. Nobody can sleep because of how loud everything is. And then we come back from the show. We've got to go to a meeting. Before we can leave the house, oh, let's go do some chest. He's in there. It's awesome. I wish I had that drive.

That's what it takes. I wish I had that drive. I was just trying to get him. There's a pull-up bar right in the open there. So I was trying to get him just to mess around a little bit. Can you do a pull-up? Oh, no. Can you climb the rope?

So in school, I never could. That didn't get me in the obstacle course because my fat ass and my upper body being so small. But I can do a pull-up. You can't? Okay. I haven't tried since. I haven't tried. Do you do any physical activities?

I know this thing gets you back in the gym, obviously, gets you back working out whenever you can this thing gets you back in the gym obviously get you back working out whenever this gets me in the gym but my focus on the gym is i'm in the gym so that i can hunt and fish not get tired and just be outside as much as possible so you're super outdoorsman guy i think i like being outside love it i prefer i prefer outside versus inside you like do the like uh put your your clothes in a bag of like deer piss so you can go live out in the middle of the forest and the deer will just understand that you're there and stuff? I spray down with deer piss. I put it on my boots as I'm walking in the woods.

Do you really? Hunting is such, you have to be in the perfect place at the perfect time. I don't want any reason for anything to go wrong, so I take every precaution. Oh, so you're like that. What all do you hunt? Deer. Just deer? Deer. Just deer? Deer.

Okay. Where at? Out there in the wild? A little bit in Idaho and a lot of bit in Ohio, the great state of Ohio. Oh, they're in Ohio. Where at? Where do you go? Just outside of Cincinnati.

Sweet. Georgetown, Ohio. I'm sure you have some good connections out there. Do you go arrow or bone arrow? All bow. All bow. Oh, so you're a legit hunter. Yeah, you think people are using a rifle or guns.

No, I don't have anything wrong with it. I just don't want to shoot something that's 280 yards away. Gotcha. I like being right there within the presence of 20 yards every day.

You have to practice. Oh, you have it at the house? You have a range at the house? Every day. You have to. You got to shoot. You got to shoot. Just like, I'm sure

you were kicking field goals. You had a field goal range out in the backyard. Yeah. You got to stay on your game. Yeah. Yeah, but so you're out there. You have the whole thing.

You do the whole facing. You're natural. Well, I grew up around a guy who also had piss on his stuff when he went out into the woods or whatever, so I know your world relatively well. You got that thing up on your cheek and all? I reversed. I dropped the top hand.

Oh, the inverted. And then the trigger. The next level. It's the next level. How long did you do that when you were playing? Because there's no way a USC quarterback's out there hunting in the wild with piss on his clothes. I got into it when I got drafted to the Bengals. That's how I got into it.

And just fell in love the first time I went. Not a golfer. I like golf. But I enjoy golf. I love to hunt and fish. You're a good golfer. Pat's going to play in Tahoe this year for the first time. Good for you.

Probably going to win it. You're going to love it. You probably will. You're going to love it. What does that mean? You think I'm going to stink? Yeah, you'll win. You're a double bogey kind of guy.

Let's talk about Cincinnati. You said you have some land out there you hunt on. You obviously are a massive part of Cincinnati Bengals history. The way it ended is going to be how it's going to be. Have you come back full circle with the Bengals? And obviously your family trained alongside Joe Burrow, and obviously you have a connection there. Have you come full circle with them?

And is anybody more surprised than you that they are in the Super Bowl? Full circle meaning what? Like how you feel. Were you ever bitter? Did you hate them? No, I just had issues with the organization. But Cincinnati is a great place. If you would like to hunt and fish, Cincinnati is phenomenal.

I'm back there a bunch. I love seeing neighbors and old friends and just folks that I dealt with and was around on a daily basis go back and see. So the life part wasn't bad, you're saying? No, it's a great place. It's a great place to have kids. It's a great place for all that. But am I surprised to see the Bengals here?

100%. If you would have told me or anybody else in this room in September that that was a roster that was probably going to get them to the Super Bowl, I think everybody would say and disagree and say no. So absolutely I'm shocked they're here. But it would be so amazing for the fan base. I mean, all of ohio all of ohio has seen some really bad football when you start up north with the cleveland browns and work your

way down to southeastern ohio there hasn't been a ton to get excited about and a ton to be proud of and right now this team if this team can take a lombardi trophy back to downtown cincinnati and do a parade in downtown cincinnati i it would be amazing. This fan base has been passionate. They've stuck by both teams, both Ohio teams. And it's just been – it's never happened. So it would be just huge. I can't imagine that place would be bananas. What's that reservoir you guys have down there?

It's the river in between Kentucky and Cincinnati. It's Dead Body City. You guys have a boat parade. Yeah, that's where you guys drink, right? The Ohio River? What are you talking about? Well, maybe. I don't know what it is.

I thought it was the drinking water. When I drove across it, I put a car on the back of a boat, and it drove across the goddamn river. It's the Ohio River. Yeah. Yeah, it seemed like it was a lot of dead bodies. You guys aren't drinking that. That's not the drinking water over there, right?

No, no, no. No, that's just river. I was lied to. I was lied to. I thought it was unbelievable that they were saying that type of thing, but why not a boat parade, maybe? What do you think the celebration would be like in Cincinnati if a Super Bowl was to come there?

It's a great – I mean, everything is right there. Yeah, Super Bowl right there. The buses, everything is based right there. You've got the Red Stadium. You've got the Bengal Stadium. You've got all the casinos. It would be bananas. Joe Burrow is a guy, huh?

He's amazing. He's amazing. What he's done – I mean, you think back to, you go back to that game where they went into Tennessee, the number one seed. He was sacked nine times. You don't know what it's like to get sacked. It's demoralizing. He needs some Cadenwood. He needs some Cadenwood after that game. There's no doubt. Some level select. But getting yourself up off the ground, your offensive line feels bad. They keep, you know, nine times they're picking you up off the ground. Nine times his defensive team on the sidelines were watching him get,

that is a demoralizing feeling. So for them to stay even keeled and Joe to keep his poise and then find a way to win, they just have, there's a certain level of magic they have about them. They shouldn't, they went 10 and seven and they're playing against the Ritz and Glitz and Glamour of Hollywood, the Rams. You've got Aaron Donald. You've got OBJ. You've got all these guys. The Bengals don't have that.

So they've just found a way with grit, toughness, and a little bit of magic to get here. Good Rust Belt team. Go ahead, AJ. So the Rams, everyone expects them to get four-man pressure on Joe Burrow. If a team can get four-man pressure on you as a quarterback, say they do it early, first couple series, they knock you down, they maybe get a sack. What kind of impact does that have throughout the game?

If you know, hey, these guys are coming no matter what, they don't have to bring six. Well, just the struggles that since he's had up front. The offensive line has struggled all year long. Joe was sacked 52 or 53 times. They led the league in quarterback sacks. And last year he would have led the league too, but he got out. He moves around the pocket pretty well too, though.

He avoids the line as well. He's unbelievable. But at the end of the day, that offensive line is going to get overpowered. Aaron Donald is unblockable. Von Miller is a former Super Bowl MVP that actually changed he took over that game and won that game for the Broncos. Those guys have been there before. They know what it takes. That offensive line in Cincinnati has struggled from week 1 to week 17 and then they went, as I said

before, and got sacked 9 times in one playoff game. I just think you don't need to bring a ton of pressure. You can sit back. You don't have to man up Jamar Chase and play one-on-one and bring pressures. They can rush. They can put Aaron Donald and Vaughn on the same side of the field. That's a terrible mismatch. That is awful for Cincinnati.

For anybody, let alone the Bengals. So it does concern me that they can rush four and double Jamar and double T. They lost their CJ. They lost their tight end last week to the knee. So it's tough sledding. It's going to be an uphill battle for the Bengals. I mean, everybody's saying what you're saying right there, though. You know, everybody's saying, like, well, the nine sacks in one game, 13 in total, I guess, or 13 or 12 in total in this entire playoff run.

It's the most, I guess, that has ever happened for a Super Bowl team, or if they were to win a Super Bowl championship, it would be the most of all time. Is there anything that that offensive line you think is going through mentally knowing that everybody is talking about the only way they win is through that? And you've been around, obviously, a lot of offensive lines. You've been a part of some gruesome hits and injuries that have changed the game forever. There has to be something to that, right?

Out of everybody talking that they stink. Isn't that something for two weeks that they're going to have to hear and maybe can change themselves? It puts a chip on your shoulder, no doubt. But, I mean, I remember my first time I was playing for the Cardinals, we were in St. Louis playing the Rams after they had drafted this guy with the 17th pick or 18th pick named Aaron Donald. I hadn't heard of him.

I didn't know it was his rookie year. And midway through the second quarter, I come back to the huddle and I'm getting ready to call a play. It was a long action seven step drop and i hear the offensive lineman i'm like what we're in the middle of the play i got 20 seconds what are you talking about what's going on and i i finally get a second to hear what they're saying we're in a loud stadium and they're like i can't even see 99 let alone block them and i remember that that time i was like hold on who like 90 no nobody was even saying his name was aaron donald was 99 because he you know he didn't come in he came in from pittsburgh um he wasn't a top five pick he wasn't a household name but that guy can that

guy can keep you up at night and having to be in the nfc west with him a bunch and play against him twice a year he is an issue i don't care if you have all pro guards centers and tackles he is unblockable when he's one-on-one so I just think it's a bad mismatch for the Bengals I know I know everybody's talking about the offense line and the struggles but it doesn't matter if you got a bunch of all pros Aaron Donald's unblockable and that's a smart way to build a team by the way the way the Rams built the team it's like the Colts right we're We're going to get offensive weapons, we're going to get a lead, and then we're going to have Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney come off the edge. When you construct a roster and you have Aaron Donald, you build for him to be there.

In every conversation about him being the greatest player of all time, it happens every season, every single game that they're on TV. And I think at some point somebody would come out and be like, no, that's not true. Everybody has said, no, yeah, this guy is the guy. I think it's point somebody would come out and be like, no, that's not true. Everybody has said, this guy is the guy. I think it's unanimous from everybody, including A.Q. Shipley. A.Q. Shipley had to battle

against him, obviously, when he was bent over in front of you doing his thing. He would go on to become a Super Bowl champion and a coach and I don't want to break any news. We'll have to see how his coaching career continues or what it ends up doing there but you're right here in aq talk about aaron donald is a different animal as well the guys who actually have to play against him on a daily basis or regular basis

can we spend some more time talking about aq one of the million percent one of the best i miss q well listen he's the best he's been coaching so he's been sleeping in his uh you know on the couch down there he's been coaching, so he's been sleeping on the couch down there. He's been watching pointless film. He's been putting in ideas and strategy that there's no way they're going to be listening to. Making no money. Coached or played for 12, 13 years. He got a ring. Spark plug on the man as a champion.

But he thought he was going to be a coach. Hey, you're sitting on a stage with two guys that play in the NFL that have no ways anybody. What are these psychopaths doing that go on to coach? Is it not just an insane love and obsession of football and also hating everything else in life potentially? Yeah, I mean, it's...

That's why you haven't heard from AQ, by the way. He's been in a cave for 10 months. He got a ring and he got a... How do you do it any better than that? He got a ring, and he's out. Well, is he out? Is that official? I didn't say that.

No, no. If I were to guess, but he's absolutely the best. And, no, being a coach, I mean, you've got to love football so much that you don't want to be around anybody else other than the other coaches on the staff. Forever. Forever. Every single day of your life. Go ahead, Tone.

Carson. Oh, no. There it is. We've talked about it a lot on this show. Do you think the Bengals would have won a championship before this? This is so bad. What happened? If they did have an indoor practice facility.

If they do win the Super Bowl, do you think the other ships would be like, hey, we just won the Super Bowl without an indoor practice facility? Tone Diggs has asked Carson Palmer if he thinks that they could have win the Super Bowl, you think the ownership is going to be like, hey, we just won the Super Bowl without an indoor practice facility. Tom Diggs has asked Carson Palmer if he thinks that they could have made a Super Bowl or won a Super Bowl a lot earlier than this year if they had an indoor practice facility over there next to this concrete plant underneath the highway. Do you think the indoor facility would have got them here sooner? I'm very well of the facilities or lack thereof. I'll tell you what. It used

to drive me nuts. We used to get on a bus anytime it snowed. Cincinnati is not built for snow. I mean, you're from Ohio. When it snows, it takes days to get there. They just don't have the infrastructure to clear the snow. So we would get on a bus. We would drive like an hour and a half to Mason, Ohio to practice at

an indoor kids soccer You weren't going to UC back then? This is when you were there? UC was playing. So they wouldn't let us use it. There was an issue between the Bengals and the University of Cincinnati. So we would drive an hour and a half north. We would practice.

And literally the ceiling height was as big as this studio. So I could only throw slants. I would throw, like, posts and comebacks, and it would bang off the lights. Were you guys wearing pads? I hope you weren't wearing full pads. There wasn't lined. They had the trainers out there with athletic tape lining the field, which is an ACL waiting to happen.

And then you get on the bus and drive an hour and a half back. They wouldn't let you go home from there. And then you get back on the road that was snowing and drive an hour to get home. It was the biggest debacle. Why'd you want to retire? Why'd you want to retire? Highest level, dude. This is national football.

I hope that this Super Bowl thing generates some revenue that they can afford to put up an indoor facility for the players because it's a competitive disadvantage. It is. That's 100%. It's a competitive disadvantage. Another competitive disadvantage. They found a way to make it happen, though. Because it's Joe Burrow.

Go ahead, Connor. To that point, Gronk has come out and said if he wanted to keep playing, he would want to play with Joe Burrow and Cincy. Do you think they can actually turn that into a destination place where guys want to go? Because of Joey B. Yeah, because of Joey B. Big part of because of Joey B, but more importantly

because they have $58 million in cap space. Yeah. So let's see what they do with that. And they have to spend that, by the way. Everybody talks about them paying people. It's like, well, they're actually forced to in the CBA. They have to spend that money as opposed to. Let's see if they do it.

What does that mean? I mean, you can finagle your way and spend half of it and push it off to later years, but they're $60 million under. They've got a great opportunity. away and spend half of it and push it off to later years but there's there's 60 million bucks under they've got a great opportunity they got a rookie on his on his or a quarterback on his rookie deal he's got two years left jamar they don't have to pay for a while they got to pay t higgins coming up but they have a ton of opportunity to build and not this not be the only super bowl that joe gets to they have an opportunity to set the next, ten years up in front of them with that 60 million bucks and bring in guys

because they do want to play with Joe and they do want to play for coach. It's just, it's a situation that I hope for Joe. Take advantage of it. Take advantage of the leverage that you got right now and put it on paper that they're going to put in a facility and upgrade the staff. Okay, so you think that's what

it's going to have to take? It's going to have to take some of the players being like, hey, we deserve to at least have a chance against all these others. I mean, the Dallas Cowboys on hard knocks, they had a 45-minute drone footage that surveyed the entire area. It's like a $100 billion facility. They got all these swim pools. Now, granted, they stink. They win 12 games.

They can't make it to the Super Bowl. I'm worried that the Brown family is going to see the success and be like, we were right all along. And you're going to see other places. You're going to see Jim Irsay out there with a sledgehammer knocking down the indoor facility, saying the boys don't need it. I'm worried that's going to happen. But hopefully what you were saying takes place.

And I don't want to pile on too much. But after you would drive an hour and a half up to Macon, Ohio. Mason, Ohio. Mason. Mason, Ohio. There you go. Is that actual distance-wise or that's with the snow on the road? It's like a 45-minute trip, 30-minute trip probably, but with snow on the road

because people can't drive an hour and a half each way? 20 miles away, but when it's dumping snow and there's too much snow on the road to clear, it takes an hour and a half. As the crows fly. As the crow flies. Yeah, you get it. There it is. Mason.

Hour and a half. Hour and a half. Athletic trainers taping lines on there. You're in a classroom, basically, because that's the closest soccer facility there is in fucking Ohio. What is even going on? There isn't another one out there. I love that the Bearcats said, excuse me, we're not in Power 5, but we got our own shit.

You're in the NFL. Figure it out. You drive back, almost blow an ankle. Get in there we're not in Power 5, but we got our own shit. You're in the NFL. Figure it out. You drive back almost blow an ankle. Get in there. You got to do meetings and you got to drive home. When you get back there, what food were you eating when you were there? Was that... I never ate the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Why? You chose not to eat the

good food that they had there? What's that all about, Carson? I mean, from the ex-cons that were smoking cigarettes over the eggs they were scrambling in the morning. Oh. To, they actually got busted. They were mixing hot chocolate. And, you know, like at stadiums, they have the big mop buckets.

And so it was so cold outside when you practice. You'd come inside and they'd have some hot chocolate for you to warm you up. They were mixing the hot chocolate. They got caught. They were mixing the hot chocolate in a mop bucket and then pouring it in the thermos. Are you kidding me? No, they got popped for it. They got caught doing it by the, I don't know,

who gives you a letter grade, A, B, C, D, when you go into a food establishment, the health inspector or whatever, yeah. Did it taste good still? I didn't touch that. I ate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. What? I ate four of them, and so did everybody else.

Wow. I think they upgraded the food, though. I heard that. Other than the Maupat chocolate. Okay, and I've been to plenty of bathtubs that had jungle juice in them. Tasted delicious. But once again, this is not the NFL. This entire thing. Was there food options? And this has changed your thinking? And how is it so far behind, and how

has it been allowed, you think, as an NFL team for that to happen? They just signed a $110 billion meteorites deal that is going to get opted out and probably end up being like $200 billion with all the other platforms that are coming in there. Sports gambling is obviously bringing in a lot of money. Making it to the Super Bowl is selling. Joey Shiesty is selling a bunch of jerseys. How does it continue to happen, you think, and why?

I don't know. I just hope that this is the catapult for change. I hope that this is their opportunity to reinvest i mean hot chocolate that is no look it up they got popped for it it was in the news everybody in the team was like what freaking out yeah it was it was a bad deal well i'll tell you what to survive the cincinnati bangles just eating and drinking whatever they're serving you need to have have Level Select, Cadenwood. Huh? CBD. Cadenwood CBD.

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You're right. You're right. He's sore. I am sore. I was boxing, too, you know. So just rub it in and just. Yeah. Put some on your face, though.

No, you can't do that. On your nose. Can't you use it on your face? I do. Wait until you see how good my elbow feels. Wow. It's like sunscreen. I fell in a hockey.

I've actually. A couple of weeks ago. I need my elbow to get fixed. Okay. Use my shoulders. I need good shoulders. Yeah. Lats.

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It does. I have a boil on it. I think you put too much on. No, no, no, dude. It does feel good already. Overload. There you go. Wow.

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No sunscreen. Well, there you go. I've been working my face a lot. Yeah. All right, I should be fucking good to go. All right, thank you, Carson. Is there mint in there as well? Yeah, there's a lot of mint. It feels great. Oh, go. Thank you, Carson. Is there mint in there? There's a lot of mint.

It feels great. You didn't put on 17 pounds. My eyes are normally wide open. People say that about me a lot. There's some mint floating in my eyeballs. It's not really for the face. It's more for muscles and aches. I would imagine most people use one a dollop, one dollop.

Yeah, like a quarter size. You really slathered it on. The mint's really going right into my eyes. Oh, yeah. Looks like it. All right. I'll tell you what. The muscles feel good, though. And you can get that at levelselectcbd.com.

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Arms feel good. I mean, I'm tearing. I mean, this is a bad deal. There's a lot of mint in that. It smells good, though. Uh-huh. All right. Big shout out to Level Select CBD.

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Some more green tea? It does feel like I got an icy hot in my eyeballs. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. All right. I think we got to end the show, huh? Hey, we're down. Be on the other side of this intro.

I mean, how am I going to put my mask on now? I mean, a mask. You don't need a mask. What, the Cadenwood? Yeah, you don't need a mask. Perfect. Don't you say that. Cadenwood beats COVID.

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Big thanks to Aiden Hutchinson, Chuck McGraw, and Seth Rollins. Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner came on earlier. My nose is running out. It's really taking over my entire head. Shouldn't have put it on my face. What was I doing? Were you going to do a little gel?

Is that what you were going for? You stopped? The sunscreen effect. I was trying to get the muscle on my face to relax with the CBD, but it turns out it is going right into my eyes. I mean, I'm in a bad, bad spot. I'm sure Mad Dog did the same thing when Carson was on his show.

But how good do your arms feel right now? And elbows and your biceps you know i feel like i could probably curl the world right now yeah you know what i mean that desk hey don't even try to get by me or i'll trap you you know what i mean i had to warm them all back up with this live selects level select cbd all right we're done hammer down on your side i gotta go somewhere i to go somewhere. I got to go to the shower. Yeah. I got to go wash my face. I don't know what's next for me. I don't know what's next. It's progressively got worse every second that we have continued.

Hammer Downs on your side. They're going to give out all the picks. Try Level Select CBD except for on your face. See you in about 20 hours or so live from Radio Road. More shows going to be, but we're going to see you. ស្រូវតែរាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប្រូវនន្រូវនន្រូវនន្រូវនន្រូវនន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវន្រូវបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា� Terima kasih telah menonton Thank you. សូវាប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បូវតែរាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពី I'm out.