The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 600 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, Super Bowl LVI Recap, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, Brock Lesnar LIVE IN STUDIO, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: February 14, 2022On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys are joined by both Dan Orlovsky (26:03-46:58) and Darius Butler (1:11:22-1:26:08) to overreact to everything that happened in Super Bowl LVI, the Rams becom...ing World Champions after a tough fought battle against the Bengals, if the Bengals will make it back to another Super Bowl, the gambling night that was, what that win does for Matthew Stafford's legacy, what the Bengals need to do moving forward to protect Joe Burrow, and everything else as we prepare for the offseason and wrap up an incredible NFL season. Joining the program for the first time is WWE Icon, former UFC Heavyweight Champion, NCAA National Champion, one of the scariest human beings on the planet, Brock Lesnar. Pat, Brock, and AJ chat about his career in both the WWE and UFC, what he does in his free time, his work with the Bearded Butchers and the new blend seasoning that he created with them, what's next for his career, his upbringing, and much more in an absolutely incredible conversation (1:26:10-2:15:15). We appreciate all of you for listening, watching the show at Youtube.com/ThePatMcAfeeShow and for following along this entire season. We're off for the next week. See you next Tuesday, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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It is our final, our biggest, our Super Bowl Overreaction Monday, February 14th, and it begins now!
Can't thank you enough for rocking with us on this glorious Overreaction Monday.
I know that you could be watching all around the globe.
And I don't know what time zone you're in. I'm currently, my body is in the Eastern Standard Time Zone.
My brain and sleep schedule is in the Pacific Time Zone.
It has been a problem to get any sleep,
but how could you sleep after last night anyways?
The Los Angeles Rams are your 2021 NFL reigning,
defending, undisputed Super Bowl champions.
Yeah.
Congrats, man.
A lot has been made of a call that was made late in the game
because the refs all game were keeping the flags in their pocket.
There might have been a block in the back on a return that wasn't called
that would normally be called.
There might have been a couple holds, a couple offsides,
a couple false starts that weren't called.
It seemed like they were letting the boys play.
And then towards the end there, the refs got excited.
They said, oh, shit, I haven't even gotten to the stat sheet.
I haven't even got a chance to throw my flag
because we've made no calls.
Now it's going to the end of the game.
There's hundreds and hundreds
of millions of people watching.
What about my family?
What if they think that I can't throw a flag
in the Super Bowl?
Am I too scared?
Now bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
They start throwing everything.
Oh yeah.
One particular call was made about a Wilson.
Now, I'm not talking about Owen or Russell or Zach or any of the other Wilsons.
I'm talking about a guy that we all knew for sure.
Logan fucking Wilson.
Yeah.
Double nickel.
55.
This man was flying around for the Bengals last night, and they called him on a hold.
That was clearly a bullshit call.
Yeah.
But did that not make up for Jalen Ramsey getting his face yanked to the ground
for a touchdown on the first play of the second half?
Now, you can always complain about calls.
And that Logan Wilson call, complete bullshit.
Jalen Ramsey getting tossed by his face, also bullshit.
One happened in the beginning of the second half.
One happened at the very end of the game.
So I could see how there was a little bit more of a spotlight.
But whatever the case, you can't say that the Rams didn't deserve to win that game.
You can't say, even with two turnovers from Matthew Stafford,
shout out to everybody that bet on that, that felt like a pretty good.
Matthew Stafford rolling to his left, extending a play,
drawing up the play live on the fly.
It's like, oh, my God, this is Detroit Matthew.
And then, boom, Detroit Matthew. And then boom! Detroit
Matthews, Rosa Picanienzo.
Just one first down away from more points in a game
than what you were losing. I mean, it is
very, very fascinating.
That was going to happen, but whenever you
sack a quarterback seven times,
six of them being
in the second half, and this has been the Achilles
heel for the Bengals for this
entire playoff run.
Nine times he was sacked against the Tennessee Titans.
They've still got to win.
Everybody's talking about, oh, that's not that big of a conversation
because they go on to beat the fucking Chiefs,
and that defense locks up the clamps on Patrick Mahomes,
and all of a sudden everybody's like,
maybe Joey Burrow doesn't need an offensive line.
Well, against that D-line in which we all thought they were going to dominate
for all four quarters, they took their time,
and in the second half, Vaughn Miller, look, fucking Vaughn Miller is so fast.
Oh, my God.
He was coming up in under, and everybody was saying he wasn't in shape when he got to the Rams.
He was playing for the Broncos at the beginning of the season.
What does that even mean?
Yeah.
But it does, I do like the fact that Vaughn Miller put out a tweet and said,
hey, I told you I was coming back for you.
He goes and gets it, and then we have to talk about the specimen who might be retiring, I'm learning.
Whoa.
What's that about?
A kid who drank the same waters that we drank,
and then somehow he ended up much different than us.
Aaron Donald, after eight years in the NFL, is now a Super Bowl champion.
His resume is filthy.
His resume is ridiculous.
Rookie of the year.
Super Bowl champ.
Eight-time Pro Bowler.
Seven-time first-team All-Pro.
Three-time defensive player of the year. Thank you.
2010's All-Decade team.
90-plus PFF grade
every year, and we know they know the rules.
Oh, yeah. God, it doesn't matter. Only two games
missed, both not injury-related.
We'd assume COVID, Uncle COVID showed up in one of those.
And maybe, who knows?
I don't know.
I'm not 100% sure what happened.
We don't need to dive into it.
To be honest, we did not.
I'm not 100% sure.
But there was a time where he got his first sack,
where he sent Joey B, OK, into the Gatorade.
Hi-ha!
Now, there was a little bit of a to-do about it on the sideline
because it was the Bengals' sideline, which, by the way,
I respect that they're sticking up for their guy.
With that being said, he was like three yards inbounds still.
That was just a standard tackle.
That was standard Aaron Donald bullying a quarterback,
which is what he is trained with knives to do, paid to do,
studied to do, and the best to do.
So them getting all upset about that I think was a bad idea.
Once they started putting their hands on Aaron Donald's face
and started getting him pissed off, I don't know if you'd seen,
I think it was a play later, a couple plays later,
he did teach tape on what a bull rush is in the middle of the Super Bowl
in a time where they needed to put a fire out
because Joe Burrow scores that touchdown.
Then there's a pick.
They get the ball out.
They're going.
He puts his hands underneath a 300-some pounder
who has paid a lot of money to protect a quarterback,
and he just marches it.
Just like on a field.
Sack how you don't fucking give me that.
Then there's another play with a run
where he gets the edge, sets the edge,
and then with one hand fucking grabs the
guy and stops him on like a third one or fourth and one or something like that he is an absolute
specimen and he gets the game ender he's a game closer obviously where he forces the ball out of
burrows hands too quick he's not able to make it their super bowl champs he says fucking ring me i
mean mcveigh might be retiring or is he using this all for leverage because he's underpaid because he's only 36 years old,
so they paid him shit to give him this first head coaching opportunity.
He said yes.
There's so much conversation about who's done, who's not.
I hope they're all back because that fucking Rams team yesterday was awesome.
Matthew Stafford.
When he was traded in Cabo, Mexico.
All right, if you remember Jay Glazer.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
Drew Brees.
Rosie Tedison broke up with him.
Yeah, she did.
I'm sure she's a nice person.
But that broke his goddamn heart.
Yeah, of course.
Jay Glazer was sitting in solitude in Arizona after getting a breakup.
Andrew Whitworth, who was down with Sean McVay in Cabo,
said, hey, Jay, why don't you come join us?
Why don't you come visit us?
Why don't you come down here, get away, you know,
see you need to be with people?
And Jay said, no, no, no.
Then he followed up the next day.
Hey, why don't you come join us?
And Jay said, you know what, I will.
Sean McVay said, cancel the fucking bird.
Jay Glazer's come down here and needs me.
I'm sticking around.
That same day, when are you supposed to leave?
Matthew Stafford comes to
the plaza the resort the casa they start talking they start meeting each other oh my god i love
you let's trade away fucking everything to get you to the rams this might be a drunk decision
in cabo there's been a lot of those that have been made that have ended up in very poorly
but in this particular case at the time there there was people around the NFL saying that the Lions won the trade.
They won.
The Detroit Lions won the trade.
That was something that was happening.
People were telling me I was an idiot for saying the things that I was saying about Matthew Stafford.
And obviously that propaganda machine, Dan Orlovsky, where he talks about every quarterback, but one of them definitely was Matthew Stafford,
had a nice little narrated piece on ESPN about, you know,
knowing that Matthew Stafford is at another level in the rest of the world,
not really understanding it.
People were saying that whenever Detroit picked up the $100 million
Jared Goff contract because they got other picks, they won the trade.
Matthew Stafford is just a guy who pads his stats.
He's just this.
He's just that.
In his first year with Sean McVay, there were some ups.
There were some downs.
But in the end, Matthew Stafford made a play that Jared Goff could never, ever fucking make,
not only against Tampa Bay where he took the soul in the career out of Tom Brady and the Buccaneers,
but also a no-look pass to perfection on the game-winning drive.
When he needed a touchdown, he actually got two of them. Because there was another one
he got that got called back for offsetting penalties
or whatever the case was. And a lot of people are going to
talk about Logan Wilson. Nonetheless, when
Matthew Stafford, on the biggest
stage, with all the anxiety
and pressure, had to go score,
he did.
And that will never get talked about by the people that are Matthew Stafford
haters, but all those people are probably awfully quiet
this morning.
At Evan Foxy, you had to have quite a time as a Detroit Ram member up there in Detroit, pal.
Well, don't call us the Detroit Rams.
Because for me to say, like, that felt like a Lions W would be completely wrong.
To be honest, I sit here today, and this sounds terrible, but I thought I would be a little bit happier.
No, Lions still stand.
Because it's disappointing, right?
I watched this guy for 12 seasons in Detroit.
I defended him for 12 seasons in Detroit because I knew he was this good.
I knew he was capable of just getting us a fucking playoff win,
let alone a Super Bowl.
Finally, he gets traded.
He has to be out.
He does everything right for Detroit and their fans.
Gets out.
Has a team around him.
Has a coach.
Has a running game.
Has a defense.
Has an O-line.
Sun.
Sunlight.
Finally has all this.
First season fucking wins the Super Bowl.
Just add this to the list of shit on why the Detroit Lions are fucking cursed.
Yeah, yeah. Congrats to Matthew Byers.
Congrats, Matthew.
Just real quick, though, for all the other quarterbacks out there
that are maybe thinking about, you know, on the fence,
Peyton Leaves wins the Super Bowl.
Tom Leaves wins the Super Bowl.
Matthew Stafford Leaves, he wins the Super Bowl.
It seems like there is just a little bit of a pattern.
The grass is green out there sometimes.
It seems like sometimes when the grass gets watered on the other side,
much more than it's being watered on your particular side of the fence,
whenever you go to that side of the fence, it's like, holy shit,
this grass smokes much better than the grass that we've been smoking
this entire time at Tone Diggs.
Let's dive into the betting of last night because we had 200 and some thousand people.
God damn it.
Yep.
Okay, and I don't want to get – we'll get to the toxic table,
obviously dive back into the game and your thoughts. But we go any further at tone digs i mean have you
ever seen a bet that had 200 plus thousand people riding alongside of it one word answer tone i have
not all right that was three you're right i didn't pay attention to the question no that's all right
it was a good answer it was a good answer have you seen one of our parlays in which there is numerous of thousands of people alongside of it
come oh so close and inevitably be a fucking heartbreaker?
Yes.
Did you think that this same game parlay was the one that was going to catapult us into the offseason
in a beautiful fashion?
I did.
Me too, man.
What the fuck happened?
I mean, Cooper Cupp scores a touchdown.
Odell Beckham Jr. has the first touchdown.
I mean, that was like plus 900 or something like that.
Shout out to Sports Rage.
He gave that out on the show on Friday.
But Odell Beckham Jr. scores the first touchdown.
He's eating, by the way.
He gets hurt.
We're bummed for OBJ, but congrats on Super Bowl.
And OBJ.
Then Cooper Cupp scores a touchdown.
Then when OBJ gets hurt, you automatically assume, okay,
the Cooper Cupp 60 over is going to be no problem with the way that D-line
was playing in the second half.
They played like that the entire game.
Does Joe Burrow survive the entire game?
I don't know.
He hurt his knee.
He looked like he was in bad shape, by the way.
Yeah.
But he didn't even think about running more than a couple times.
What happened to Joe Burrow?
Was he scared to death to run?
How are we that wrong?
He wasn't even close.
Actually, it got worse for us because he took a knee at the end of the first half.
From 11.5 to 12.5, we weren't even close on that thing.
Well, three out of four is pretty close.
And on that thing, we weren't that wrong.
I mean, we said it on that last drive where they had to score to win.
Yeah, score to win.
He was going to run for 30, 40, 50 yards potentially,
but he did hurt his knee.
So, I mean, who were we?
We didn't know that he was going to hurt his knee.
No, we're on the right side, obviously, that whole thing.
And then Joe Burrow doesn't move it.
He didn't hurt his knee.
The offensive line involved.
Miller hurt his knee or whatever the case is.
But, by the way, he squeaks through there.
That play.
The play where he gets hurt.
He's like almost through the elevator doors closing.
Like right through the other.
He gets the other side of that.
That's 20-yard scamper.
Oh, yeah.
At least.
Ah!
Gambling sticks.
Let's have a moment of silence for that same game parlay,
the one in which we, I mean, we thought we fucking broke them.
They had $35 million riding on the Simpsons score.
40.
$40 million riding on the Simpsons score, Fando.
I couldn't even imagine if 200-some thousand people hit
for plus 700 plus or whatever.
Oh, they would have had to fire hundreds of people.
A lot of people would have lost their jobs.
I like those people.
There's a couple over there that need to fucking relax.
Their brains aren't as big as they think they are, but there's a lot of people over there that I like those people. There's a couple over there that need to fucking relax. Their brains aren't as big as they think they are.
But there's a lot of people over there that I like a lot.
I wouldn't like that, but I would have liked the fact that our people get the money.
Yeah, that would have been nice.
Let's have a moment of silence, by the way, for not one risk-free same-game parlay hit in this year.
Not fucking one.
That's not true.
Not one.
Oh, risk-free.
Yeah, same-game parlay boosts.
Two of them hit one day. Risk-free same-game parlay did not true. Not one. Oh, risk-free. Yeah, same-game parlay boosts.
Two of them hit one day.
Risk-free same-game parlay did not hit.
By the way, they're the ones that were like,
hey, risk-free same-game parlay is what we're going for at Super Bowl.
Makes a lot more fucking sense now.
Interesting.
We see the two same-game parlay boosts that you did,
both of them hit on the same day.
So we're not going to.
Our tech can't do that.
I'm sorry.
Tech can't do that. I'm sorry. Tech can't do that.
I'm sorry.
We'll have to do one of those wrist frees.
You love those or whatever.
We're completely defeated in wrist frees, same game parlays.
We'll have to go back to the drawing board and decide whether or not we ever want to fucking do that again.
Moment passed.
I'm sure we won't think about it.
No.
How about that coin toss?
Yeah, yeah.
I was about to get a rush, Nick.
Thanks, Nick.
Believe me. All right, I wasn't avoiding things, Nick. I was watching you guys. Thanks, Nick. Believe me.
All right, I wasn't avoiding things, Nick.
I'd like to know how much money you could have taken with those saying game parlays.
Okay, so last night I was set to make like $225, $250, something like that.
Instead, lost $105, $110.
Scotty Miller, half a yard.
Tom Brady kneeling.
Michael Pittman Jr.
Six yards.
He gets tripped up by the shoestrings.
There's definitely more. Jamar Chase. Yeah, but all these people that are new to gambling
by the way, and I appreciate those people because I
also was once very new to gambling.
I'm still new to gambling, but not
that curious. All the people that attack
me for these risk-free same-game parlays
not hitting by whatever. Do you
know how hard it is to stack those things?
Incredibly. Well, I'll let you know how hard it is. I've never
fucking hit one.
I mean, so that is... It's pretty fucking fucking hard that's pretty fucking hard also seems like i'm completely defeated in coin tosses what happened billy gene who i got a lot of respect
for oh yeah who doesn't last year who was it was somebody bad flip last year thing barely
years and years ago hw-W had the claw thing.
But this particular case with Billy Jean coming out there,
with Tails, with the vibes we had coming off the week it was.
Didn't sleep much, had a lot of meetings,
but got a chance to enjoy the hell out of NFL football
with a lot of people that cover the NFL all season.
I had a blast out in L.A.
I think we all did.
Things were looking up.
The offseason's right around the corner.
This coin toss is going to hit.
You know why?
Because odds say, and I'm a stats guy.
I'm a big-time analytics guy.
If you missed last year, you'll hit this year.
That's what 50-50 is.
Right?
Yeah, of course.
That's correct.
I don't want to go for two.
Lost $70,000 on two Cointas.
Last two Super Bowls.
That just means next year.
What's that?
That just means next year.
Absolutely.
Going to double it up.
Probably triple it up.
I'm going to try to go for another 70 grand
so I can get back in the block at least
so I don't lose on that thing.
But I mean,
it wasn't even,
I mean,
Joey B goes out there,
or no,
Stafford I think.
Stafford goes out all by himself.
Yeah, he did.
No Aaron Donald.
No.
No Whitworth.
Look at me.
Well,
I'm sure he made the decision.
I'm sure he made the decision. I'm sure he made the decision.
He goes out there.
He calls tails.
Does he know that I had 40 grand sitting on tails?
Has to have.
Maybe.
Maybe he's like, you don't want me and Pac to win this thing.
He loses.
I'm devastated.
Then the opening kickoff is a touchback.
One yard deep.
One yard deep.
Powell, what are you doing, Powell? Hey. Powell, what are you doing, Powell?
Hey, Powell.
What are you doing, Powell?
Powell, you're in the Super Bowl.
Get on the fucking stat sheet.
Come on.
It's the opening kickoff of the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
It was a half a yard in the end.
Now, granted, I'd like everybody to know,
you did not hear me talking about that touchback,
no touchback thing much last week at all.
No, no, no.
Everybody else is talking about it.
The fact that everybody else is talking about it, by the way,
is what actually sketched me out.
Hank actually tweeted that that was his lock, tweeted me,
had his full description, and I actually tweeted him and said,
you know what?
You've convinced me.
Evan McPherson's actually a guy that can do it because Evan McPherson
is a guy that wears a lot of things as a badge.
He saw Vinatieri's record, which he didn't.
He tied.
He tied.
He tied.
There's two.
There's two.
There's two.
McPherson and Vinatieri did catch up.
But he saw those rules, and those are things like,
oh, I'm going to go get that.
I'm going to go get that.
I'm going to go get that.
He 1,000% heard all the stories about 26 of the last 28 being no touchback
because the ball is actually plastic.
It is actually plastic.
He heard all of that. And now there's a 50-50
chance. Matt Gayles had a couple big kickoffs last
night, but I don't know what he would have done with the plastic ball, the opening
kickoff ball. The reason why that ball
is, why that bet was
so good and is still so good for so long
is because the kickoff ball is so
bad because it's going right to the Hall of Fame.
He hits that thing a half yard deep, one yard
deep. Powell just lets that thing.
Imagine if Powell catches that.
He probably catches that at his chest at the goal line.
And that would just be a standard return.
Everybody's like, oh, it takes it at the goal line.
Well, that ball is probably landing a yard deep if you let science do its thing
and gravity do its thing.
But that doesn't hit, so that's another 15,000, 20,000.
My gosh.
And I believe Powell did it.
I don't know if it was the next kickoff that they received or the one after that,
but same exact spot.
He did return that one.
He took that one out.
About 16 yards or so.
And by the way, after seeing his return, I realized quickly why.
Makes sense.
They're probably like, hey, just let Stafford come out here on the 25.
25.
If that ball has any chance of making it to the end zone, just fucking let that thing.
Now, granted, any team you see that is stacked at the top pay-wise,
probably not going to have the best special teams.
You can just kind of see, like, hey, the way this roster is configured,
there's a lot of money up here.
So what does that mean for the bottom 25, bottom 30
that are all playing special teams?
Oh, probably stinks.
And I think that was pretty apparent whenever Powell had basically nothing open there.
They said he had an average of 17.8 yards, and that number looks big.
It is not.
Just natural science and numbers for how fast people are running versus your return.
You should make it to the 20 if you just run straight ahead time-wise.
Now, if you take it from nine deep or whatever, you're probably not going to do that.
But if you take it from the goal line and you just run straight ahead,
with the way people run and just some blocking you should get to the 20 so a 17.8 yard average he's probably fielding
some like uh bloop kicks or some other type of stuff so you're not going to get as much yards
but if that's 17.8 yards on a full kickoff that is a terrible stat and i that guy won a super bowl
so i guess he deserves a lot of love but god damn we started off the game bad same game parlay not
hitting is fantastically terrible.
And then, I guess the 7-3 first quarter thing.
There you go.
That was the only good thing that I had last night, basically.
At Boston Corner, I saw you hit on a lot last night.
A lot of money was made.
Is that right?
No, that is actually not right.
Oh, Van Jefferson.
He was wide open.
Wide open.
I hate Matt Stafford.
I hate the Rams.
I hate Van Jefferson.
The only redeeming quality about last night was the halftime show,
and that was awesome.
I wish the entire game was the halftime show.
I never want to place a bet again.
I don't think I ever will,
and I am seriously considering just completely breaking my phone
and never having to deal with FanDuel again because I got robbed.
All right.
Attaboy.
Thank you.
How'd you get robbed, dude?
What happened? 10-0 correct score.
You know, the Rams had the ball at midfield and they ended up punting.
I mean, you hit the 7-3, so that was good.
A little selfish of you.
Yeah, very selfish.
Van Jefferson wide open, and Stafford missed him.
The real kicker was I had T. Higgins two touchdowns,
I had Odell first touchdown, and then I had Odell two touchdowns,
and he got hurt.
He would have scored another touchdown.
Oh, yeah, for sure, no doubt about it.
So there really was nothing good about yesterday, actually.
I mean –
Halftime show.
Halftime show, you're right.
You're right, yeah.
But I think the worst part was probably getting back to Indianapolis
and it being snowing after being in California.
So you've become a little bit of a Los Angeles baby here looking at all the negatives.
We got a chance to hang out and watch the Super Bowl together.
I lost like a hundred and some thousand dollars.
It was great losing money with you guys.
That was a redeeming call.
We went to the high limit area of the casino.
And we had a night.
A couple drinks, some food, had some games, had a chance to watch a concert.
Yeah.
Had Ty Schmidt watching that game last night.
Seen the Bengals beat.
Okay, but not great.
Yeah.
There was a couple times we talked about it on the stream.
Like, if you're a Packers fan, you've got to be thinking to yourself,
this was a year we missed out on quite a year.
Now, granted, congrats to the Rams.
Yeah, congrats to the Rams.
Yeah, absolutely.
And a lot of people are saying, don't worry about the Bengals.
They'll be back. Okay.
Okay. They will be.
Yeah, I'm sure they will be.
Listen, I love that team. I absolutely love that team.
They have no indoor practice facility.
Hate the ownership. Who's wearing some
farm hat in the fucking...
That guy's owned two teams, right?
That guy's family has owned two teams in the NFL.
Okay, so that's, I guess, respect, respect, respect, I guess.
But that whole organization, obviously,
a lot of adversity to make to the Super Bowl.
Nobody expected it.
They won four games last year.
So a lot of people are going to look at them like the Lions,
like, hey, we stink, but look what the Bengals did.
There's going to be other teams who will be like,
hey, we fucking stink, but look what the Bengals did.
Look what the Bengals did.
Look what the Bengals did.
What the Bengals accomplished,
I fear to say this for the Cincinnati people,
that's going to be tough to duplicate.
The amount of things that have to happen and go right,
I guess you just need Joey Burrow and Jamar Chase
to do absolutely unbelievable stuff.
You need them to get incredibly hot.
You need some injuries to bounce around,
and you need to win some games in the AFC,
in which I think a lot of people would say
wouldn't be able to do it again.
Now, that is for the Bengals to
prove. I don't want to bury the Bengals at
all. They made it to the fucking Super Bowl. And I'm
happy Joey Burrow was on stage with
Kid Cudi last night because I'm not
100% sure, as everybody else is,
that they're going to make it back to the Super Bowl as easy
as everybody saying it is to make it back to the Super Bowl,
especially in the AFC. There's
Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen,
a young upstart up there with Bill Belichick. Just anything that could happen in the AFC, there's Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, a young upstart up there with Bill Belichick.
Just anything that could happen in the AFC going ahead.
I hope the Bengals are still a part of it,
but this shit just ain't as easy as, oh, they'll be back next year.
I want my rookie year.
I'm not Joe Burrow, but I was on the team,
rode the coattails of Peyton fucking Manning.
We didn't make it back when Peyton Manning was the quarterback.
Then we drafted Andrew Luck, pretty good quarterback.
I understand Joey Burrow is a very good quarterback.
I love Joey Burrow.
I think he has a killer mentality too,
which is maybe something other people don't have.
I love Joey Burrow.
Then we had Andrew Luck.
We made it to the AFC Championship his first year.
We never made it back.
There is so much that has to fall into place.
Injuries, calls, bounces, so much.
That's why what New England was able to accomplish for 20 years is absurd.
And if people are just assuming like, oh, they'll be able to do it just because New
England was able to do it for some time or whatever, in the modern era with salary cap
and how everything goes, it is very difficult.
So congrats on a hell of a year, Bengals.
Congrats.
Good tea.
Hey, the lead was like five minutes left in the Super Bowl
against the Los Angeles Rams in L.A.
That is something to definitely hang your hat on.
But all these people are acting like it's fucking easy for Joey Burrow to get back.
That is not the case at all.
No, to your point, the Packers, like Rodgers, went to one Super Bowl.
He won it.
He's pretty good.
He's won four MVPs.
They've had some pretty good fucking teams.
Aaron's pretty good.
Yeah, exactly.
But, yeah, and back to that, too. I mean mean this was the year it was picture wrapped for him it was just
ready to go they just had to not choke and unfortunately they did but i don't know i mean
you mentioned with burrow too like it that offensive line like they are so good at the
skill positions but we might be looking at like burrow might play six years and have to retire
whoa so a lot of people are coming after me for going after the organization
to Cincinnati for not having an indoor practice facility.
And then they said to me, oh, you support the –
What is this?
Which farm is it?
Lacey Wars.
Pepperidge Farms?
No.
Congrats to this guy.
Baker Hill Farm.
Congrats.
This guy's able to just stare at the bottom line and see it go up,
still dressed like this.
I might say Clover Hill. Clover Hill Farm? Or Clever. Clever Hill Farm. Congrats. This guy's able to just stare at the bottom line and see it go up, still dressed like this. I might say Clever Hill.
Clover Hill Farm or Clever?
Clever Hill Farm.
We spend no money and we're in the Super Bowl.
This is Clever Hill Farm.
That was probably a free hat that was sitting on his chair when he got in.
No, he probably sold an advertisement on his head.
What are we even talking about?
I'm going to wear a hat.
I could wear your hat.
Just give me, I don't know, what, five, ten bucks?
That's probably what he sold it for.
What's going on?
He saw the lights on at the stadium, and that's why he looks cover his face
down yeah so get who turned on the lights at our state he's paying for cincinnati's paying for that
put my hat down i'm a little pissed off that's why he's so red you know i'm naturally red he's
so red because he's fired up because they just showed the cincinnati bengal stadium and had
lights on he said we're not fucking paying for that whoa Whoa. Oh, NBC wants us to have lights on?
Cool, that's part of your show.
You can pay for that.
Whatever the case, if that is Clever Hill Farm, Clover Hill Farm,
if it is an advertisement or maybe another side business of his,
if it is a farm, I'd assume he's got no barns on that thing.
I'd assume it is old school, they're eating grass.
And if they run out of food to feed the animals,
they buy more land so they can continue to eat more grass.
That is probably the type of operation
this farmer would run if I had to guess.
But that is definitely going to play into it being difficult
to continue to make it to the Super Bowl.
Think about all the things that all
these teams try to do just to make it.
With the facilities, the nutritionists, the
doctors, the scouting departments, the advising,
the county. Everybody's trying to make it to the
Super Bowl. And the Bengals were able to do it
without any of it.
And I think that should be commended for the players and the coaches.
Oh, yeah.
And, like, people were already dubbing the Chiefs, you know,
the next New England Patriots dynasty.
It's just that will never happen again because of everything that has to fall into place.
But, I mean, since he has $60 million in cap, if they just go all in on the line.
Oh, yeah.
Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky.
Dan!
Did you say that you think
I won a Super Bowl last night? Yeah.
It felt like it, right? Hey, you kind of did.
Congrats, Dan. Nice job, Dan.
It was pretty cool.
It'd be amazing if
Josh Allen wins one or
Carson Wentz wins one, which
won't happen in the cold.
Sam Darnold wins one.
And these other guys, they win one.
It won't feel as special because of the connection that you had with Matthew Stafford.
That voiceover piece that I watched, very well done by you.
Very well done.
What is it like to kind of watch the entire world get to witness what this dude is?
Now, two picks, obviously, that was an easy bet for at least one interception. was very easy because he's a playmaker he's a gunslinger that's the way it
goes but when he had to go score he did twice because there was offsetting penalties on him
he he did it and i mean that's huge for him and his legacy i assume you're very excited for him
yeah i mean i think anybody that's played with or played against him kind of always saw that he had
the the potential the talent the ability to be one of those guys that is talked about as one of the
best in the league and uh because of the circumstances in Detroit he never had that so
um you know once that trade went down again you think oh now everyone's gonna see what we've
tried to tell everybody for 12 years,
that this dude is as good as anybody in the league.
And, you know, I remember when Patrick Mahomes started doing all those no-look passes,
I would be like, Matthew's been doing that for freaking 12 years.
And everyone was like, no, he hasn't.
And I'm like, all right.
So, yeah, I think it's just i think the
cool thing is and pat you know this a little bit is losing in the nfl can break you man like it
could it could wear you down it could beat you up mentally and i think the the thing that was most
admirable about him is he lost for 12 years and never once pointed the finger at anybody.
And I think that the fact that Detroit didn't break him
and Detroit didn't numb him to losing.
That's right.
And, you know, that he was able to go to a place
that gave him the opportunity to show how good he is.
I just think it's for a guy that has this tough and has worked this hard
and is good at teammates.
I'm happy for him.
I don't know how it worked out in Detroit versus everybody,
but I know in Detroit versus Stafford, Stafford's undefeated.
Detroit tried to bring him down.
I don't know how it is with Stafford.
He's undefeated there.
You said he never pointed a finger.
In my eyes, that's because he never spoke.
He never talked.
Do you think that's because he didn't want to bury anybody?
Because he didn't understand his circumstance?
Or is that just not his thing at all?
Nah, he's an introvert, man.
He's quiet, dude.
He's just not a person who likes to...
Like, you don't even let people have much, to be honest with you, man.
Like, he doesn't...
He's not a big people person.
He's a small circle person um you know it doesn't i remember and i said i shared this story on
television last week i remember asking him like dude how did you as the texas kid you know highland
park texas how did you not go to texas he's like honestly i just committed to georgia because i was
sick and tired of recruiting people people telling me I was good.
Detroit was the perfect place.
So Detroit was the perfect place for this super humble, low-key guy,
almost for 12 years.
Do you think he'll look back whenever he's done and now he's cemented a Hall of Fame, which, by the way, congrats.
Congrats.
Congrats, cemented a Hall of Fame.
Now, Logan Wilson isn't going to be exactly thrilled with the end of that thing,
but Jalen Ramsey's face got thrown as well in a touchdown.
So, tomato, tomato.
There's always going to be rules that are going to go each way.
The timing of it definitely interesting.
But whenever he inevitably goes into the Hall of Fame now,
which is a very cool thing for him,
do you think he will be appreciative of those 12 years,
or do you think he's a little bit bitter that this could have happened a long time ago
if he was on a team that maybe went all in around him?
No, I think he'll be appreciative of this time in Detroit.
I think he firmly believes that Detroit made him the guy that was able to go win the Super Bowl.
You know, the guy that had to go through some, I don't want to say ups and downs this year,
but like some challenging moments this year when he didn't play as good as he was capable of
and their team had some losses and obviously some, you know, three game stretch
where he had to put his nuts on the line and go win football games at the end.
And I think that he would tell you that, you know, all those times in Detroit
and being in there for that 12 years and being in those moments and having them be important but not matter prepped him for that.
Be important but not matter.
Shout out to Troy, dude.
Nice.
Shout out.
What do you think it was about McVay and Matthew Stafford that everybody's account of the Mexico trip is a little bit different?
We learned from Jay Glazer.
McVay was actually going to leave.
He stuck around because Jay Glazer was planning on coming down.
That same day, Stafford just so happened to be coming down as well.
If it wasn't for Jay going down, McVay's probably out of Mexico
and they still got Goff at quarterback.
What do you think it is about Stafford and McVay?
You said Stafford's a closed circle guy, tight group. I assume McVay. What do you think made them gel so well, and
what do you think made the offense go so well?
I think, one, they're both super smart. Sean is very bright. Matthew's very bright. I think,
number two, as a coach, you feel more free, way less handcuffed when you have a talent like he does.
You do.
And Matthew, both physically and mentally, you feel like we can open stuff up.
I think that's what Sean always wanted to do after the Super Bowl against New England.
I think Sean wanted to take the Shanahan offense that, you offense that did not have to be tweaked and tweak it.
He wanted to take the play
action pass game and make it a drop back pass
game. He needed a quarterback to go
and be capable of
doing it. That's the talent
that Matthew has. Dan, how come
people said that the Detroit Lions
won that trade?
Well, I think because it had come to a point in Detroit where it didn't work.
You know, it just didn't happen.
And it did not happen because of Matthew.
It just didn't happen.
They got money off their books, and they got a bunch of picks.
So I think that's why people say, well, Detroit won that. But also, again. They picked up a $100 million contract for a guy that stinks.
Or didn't.
Didn't they?
But they didn't know the Matthew that.
All right.
Go ahead, Todd.
I'm going to help you.
They didn't know the Matthew.
They didn't know the Matthew that I knew.
What about us, too?
We knew it, too. We knew it, too.
We knew it, too, though.
What about us?
You guys ever have him on the show?
He's never come on.
He's actually turned us down numerous times.
Yeah, Ty.
And actually, Aaron agrees to come on.
That's the thing.
And the Rams PR guy is a fucking stooge.
That'll probably never happen.
Go ahead, Ty.
Dano, you uh how stafford was
never a finger pointer and now there's uh reports coming out that that's like basically what kyler
murray is and there's a lot of weird stuff going on in arizona now that the season's over in the
qb carousel is kind of starting to go do you think like right now they're saying there's a bunch of
guys and there might be a bunch of movement but do you think that's ultimately bullshit and maybe
only one or two guys is actually going to change teams next year?
No, I think it's more likely that we get more.
Oh!
I think teams are going to look at what Tampa Bay did two years ago
and then what the Rams did this past year and be like,
are we in that pool that has an 80% capable roster, and are we a quarterback away?
And I think you're looking at teams like Tennessee, teams like Philadelphia,
teams like Cleveland, teams like –
Colts.
Indianapolis.
Indianapolis.
Oh, so you just said Carson's –
Oh.
Oh, so let's follow up on that.
So you're saying that Carson's not a quarterback that can win with a good roster?
You need another quarterback to come in?
I think Carson's a quarterback that can win with a good roster.
I don't think Carson's a quarterback.
I can't sit here and tell you I believe Carson Wentz can win you a NFC
or an AFC championship or a Super Bowl.
Whoa.
Ticker.
That's a change of tune.
Whoa.
That's a big time take right there
Dude what's that all about
Well dude I can't look past
The last week of the season
The last two weeks of the season
I mean as much as I'm a fan of his talent
And I believed in him for a long time
I think he's good
I just don't know if he can be consistently great
So it sounds like you think
These teams are going to be active because of this.
And by the way, think about this from the quarterback perspective.
Peyton Manning leaves.
He wins the Super Bowl.
Tom leaves.
He wins the Super Bowl.
Matthew Stafford leaves.
He wins the Super Bowl.
There has to be some quarterbacks.
And I got a chance to meet Russell Wilson, by the way, at the Radio Row.
He was on his way in while we were on our way out.
When he showed up, he had this stretched Cadillac Escalade.
Oh, yeah.
Had satellites in the top.
It might have been bulletproof as well.
Wow.
There was a lot of shit.
It felt like maybe a, I thought maybe Biden was showing up.
Yeah, it looked like that.
Honestly, with how many security and cops there was,
I was like, holy shit, like what is going on?
And I think it was me and Foxy strolling out of there at the time.
I'm not 100% sure where we were
at the beginning. It was getting dark. So we just
kind of sat and Greg Olson was hanging out.
So G-Reg came over and said, what's up
or whatever. Shout out to Miami.
So we're hanging out there talking. And I'm like,
who is this? And Greg has no idea. He just got
done with some event. He was having a good time.
And then all of a sudden, Russell Wilson pops
out of that fucking stretch escalade.
Team 3's running next to him.
Like as he gets to the golf cart, they all sit down, they all straddle up.
And then he sees Greg Olson, comes and says hello to Greg Olson.
I'm naturally standing right there and I'm like,
does this guy know anything about me that has been said?
So I shake his hand.
Hey, how you doing, Russ?
That Monday Night Manning appearance was fucking amazing.
A lot of people have told me you're the same person on the field
as you are off the field, that's awesome dude
I'm going to get out of here or whatever and he said
you got a good show man, I see the clips, have a good time
talked like real fast and I was like you are the exact same person
I thought you were, okay that's awesome
nice to meet you and we kept it moving but like
he has to see all the success everybody's having
he has to, right? I mean that is
that is something, yes it has to right?
Don't you think?
Yeah, I mean, if you're Russell and you're sitting there going,
well, do I think I can win in Seattle or do I have a better chance in Denver or Cleveland or Philadelphia or Tennessee?
Like, I think those guys are going to look at him and be like, I want that.
Or Indy, yes.
Thank you.
I don't know if Seattle is going to want to come to Indianapolis.
She can visit. It's a beautiful city. You've been here, Dan. I loved Indy, yes. Thank you. I don't know if Sierra's going to want to come to Indianapolis. She can visit.
It's a beautiful city. You've been here, Dan.
I loved Indy.
I love Indy.
Shout out to that family of restaurants,
by the way. It makes all the money in Indy.
Oh, yeah. I actually believe that they own
every restaurant that you might as well go to.
Great chicken salad.
Also, the avocado toast.
Oh, with the proper amount of salt on there
dan you still part of that peloton cult yeah i still do a peloton a lot um i'm pretty good at
it so it's a good workout for me are you gonna get yoked up to go on the challenge on mtv's the
challenge or no uh i would go on it if it fit into my schedule and i could go on and just
mentally bully some people um but i probably probably don't have the time to do it bud
what's the off season look like for you pal i'm going on flying down a stream song tomorrow night
for a two-day golf trip with some of the boys. Oh. Get away.
Some of the boys have some booze.
Matthew Stafford going to be swinging the sticks or no?
No, he usually comes, but obviously he was busy doing some other stuff.
Oh, now you're saying now we're going to Super Bowl.
Who's Dan?
Oh, wow, that's crazy.
It's already happening.
Yeah.
All right.
We're less than 12 hours.
See you, Dan.
What was that?
Going to take some time away.
I've been on television too much,
so try to get off television.
And then, you know,
I'm going to enjoy
kind of the free agency world,
springtime draft.
And then, you know,
my deal is up, so.
Oh!
Look at the ticker! That's a ticker!
There's a lot of money out there.
The QB authority of television is going to be on the market.
Now, listen, your current employers are not going to be happy about this conversation,
but you are set to make some real money, Dano.
Yeah.
Good for you.
All that hard work's paid off, Danny.
Thanks, man.
I said that because I knew I would get a massive rise out of you.
That's smart.
A lot of people have been doing that.
Not everybody's been that excited.
Other networks.
But, hey, I don't care.
They don't run me or I have no deals with them.
Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, Dan.
What do you think is going to happen with Jimmy G and the Niners?
And do you think that's another team who will hop in on the QB carousel?
Yeah, another good team.
Colts for Jimmy G.
I think that Jimmy G and the 49ers will go their separate ways.
I said this when Trey Lance was coming out of the draft.
He's thrown the least amount of passes from a first-round quarterback
in the last 40 years.
At some point, the kid's got to play.
And I think the 49ers have to go, well, can he develop on the bench?
No.
Do we still believe we're in a championship window?
Yes.
But is Jimmy G the guy that we think that can bring us to championship?
And I think we have proof that that answer is no.
Good player, just not capable of taking him to the championship.
Hey, he's the right team for the Colts, isn't he?
Hey, he's the right quarterback for the Colts.
Hey, hey, hey.
Here's my thing.
Got my goal.
Fazzolini.
How's the family?
Say who!
Right?
And then he just says,
ha ha!
That's all we need from Jimmy G, right?
Check into the right runs.
Check into the right plays.
Here's my thing.
If you had to decide, like,
what's the one...
That's a pretty good hard count.
How many people have you drawn off sides
in your NFL career?
Do you know?
I drew a lot.
A lot of them all up in practice.
Not that many in a game.
Probably like three in a game.
Oh, I might have more than you in a game.
I might have more than you in a game.
I might.
I come from the inflection.
You know, that whole thing.
I mean, how you doing?
Keep it moving.
Let's get five yards closer field goal or first down.
I think I might have more than you.
Anyways, go ahead.
I'm sorry, pal.
You don't have more. Yeah, I think I might have more than you. Anyways, go ahead. I'm sorry, pal. You don't have more.
Yeah, I think I do.
I couldn't even fathom it.
By the way,
my wife and I
sat for the start of the game
in one of the end zones behind
obviously the uprights.
Kicker McPherson was warming up
and she was like,
take a picture or video for McAfee and send it to him.
Doesn't he like those guys?
And I was like, what do you mean?
She's like, doesn't he like those kicker guys?
And I was like, yeah, I guess not.
She's like, no, no, no, no, no.
He's a punter.
He doesn't like kickers.
Oh, look at that.
Dang, that's an excellent analysis there.
I do like McPherson, though.
You can let the wife know.
I am a big fan.
And you could have sent us a video because we're in Indianapolis in a snowstorm.
Dan Orlovsky's walking the field.
Oh, I got, hey, LeBron, what's going on?
Yeah, you know who the fuck I am.
Larry David, how you doing?
Keep it moving.
Kevin Hart, you're welcome for the analysis all season.
Is that what you were doing?
A lot of this here?
I'm with Stafford family.
We're in the Sweden 50 hard line.
David.
How long, when did you, when did you leave LA?
Saturday night.
We got home 6.15 a.m. here, local time.
You guys are a hardworking group of guys, man.
Not as much as you, dude.
Red eye last night, right into it.
By the way, you and Boomer, we said.
Yeah, hell yeah.
You and Boomer is icing right there at the top.
I don't know when Boomer's contract's up, but you know what I mean?
You and Boomer, that should be something you guys put in there is work ethic.
I don't know if you're ever serious about that.
No, you are.
You are a hard worker, dude.
You're on TV for literally seven hours a day throughout the entire football season.
We appreciate that.
Hey, can I ask you, Mike, my thing with the Carson Wentz, Jimmy G thing was going to be,
don't you think they're somewhat the same player?
Like the, oh my God, what the heck interception is going to happen?
Well, so the thing about Carson Wentz, let's say these are his ankles.
Okay, both of these little five-hour energy things here.
There was one play, one against the Rams, actually, Aaron Donald,
to be more specific.
The man that we listed off that entire thing,
and it was in a need-to-make situation.
Carson Wentz broke both of his ankles in one play.
One play, bang.
Then he needed cast.
And this is what his little legs look like jogging
as he went back on the field.
Both legs, both ankles sprained one play.
I don't think Jimmy G's doing that.
He's too damn pretty for that.
He does get injured, though.
He does.
Keep Jimmy out of, actually, Indianapolis.
Keep him out of Indianapolis.
Now that I think about it.
How's the family?
I hope it's good, but fucking we don't need it.
Golly.
Why do you wear a black tank top every day?
Is there a reason behind it?
Well, I just think, like, it was a nice little statement piece
that I could probably do this in a tank top
while you guys all wear your suit and ties.
That's a phenomenal answer.
Go ahead, Tone.
Go ahead, Tone.
I'm so mad I asked that question.
Dana, we talked about –
I'm on the airplane today in seat 16E in the middle,
like changing from like t-shirt and shorts to a suit.
People are looking at me like I'm an idiot.
Well, you are, but also.
I mean, that would be the last time anybody ordered me a plane
if that's where I was sitting.
Go ahead, John.
We talked about Russ and Jimmy maybe going somewhere,
but I wanted to ask you about the forgotten quarterbacks,
if maybe they could have a chance to be successful somewhere.
Jameis, Mariota, Mitch Trubisky.
You see any of those guys going somewhere and be successful?
Got it, baby.
The guy that I would be intrigued about a little bit would be Trubisky
coming off of, you know, well-experienced in Buffalo this year
with Dable in the preseason and lighting up Chicago.
And, you know, watching how poorly Chicago was handled
at the quarterback spot again this year gives you a little bit of,
all right, maybe Mitchell's not as bad as potentially people had thought.
Jameis, I got to see how healthy he is.
What's the new life?
Excuse me when he comes back.
Out of schedule.
And I don't think Marcus is.
I think Marcus is on the way to having a really good, solid career
as a high-end backup bridge starting quarterback.
But nothing tells me somebody missed out on him
and he's the next, you know,
Ryan Tannehill and Matthew Stafford type of run. Great answer there, Dan, obviously very in-depth.
And this is my last question for you. Do the Bengals ever make it back to the Super Bowl?
People are acting like, oh, Joey will be back. It's no big deal. You think so? In that AFC, dude?
Dude, I think that kid is so good, man. I think that kid is so good. And that covers up everything.
If you've got a guy, Aaron's been to one Super Bowl.
One guy can cover up all the flaws of everything in an AFC that is stacked, Dan.
I mean, it's stacked.
Yeah, I think that it's not going to cover up, but it helps it.
Also, the Bengals, for what everybody likes to say,
they're actually a relatively well
run front office when it comes to drafting and talent well that's the coaches that's the coaches
they do a decent job now he's got to spend money but they they draft well they do so i think that
if they continue to draft well they got to hit three offensive linemen this year mandatory
um because that kid's on his way to being the next and Luck. But I think they can get back, absolutely.
I bury the Bengals organization all the time for not investing in anything
and having mop buckets be the home for where you make your hot chocolate
and stuff like that, which is actual things
and no indoor practice facility and a cement mill and everything like that.
But I do like the fact that the Colts did kind of run Andrew Luck out of the league
and I never bring that up.
So I would like to let everybody know a little fairness here that needs to happen but Joey can't be
getting hit as much as he's getting hit there that can't it can't happen is it's it happened
last year's rookie year second year it happened hopefully they'll learn from Andrew and make it
right we appreciate you Dan good luck on TV delay and enjoy your break pal later boys thank you hey
you look really good by the way for the red eye and all that stuff.
Yeah, I look great.
Who booked the 16E?
Was that you or somebody else?
It was wifey.
I don't pay for first class seats, so we...
Oh, you're an idiot.
That's on you.
Tanner Lovsky.
You're an idiot.
Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, college football national champion,
Ryder Cup champion, and COVID survivor, AJ Hall.
AJ, I tried to set the table there
for that live FanDuel superstar showdown.
We had no idea what was going to happen in that show.
And I think we made the most of it, obviously.
But you, when Wiz and Luda came on the stage,
you know, AJ wouldn't throw his fucking hands up
on Thursday during the live stream.
When Wiz and Luda were out there doing their thing, AJ had a full bot. Yeah. stage you know aj wouldn't throw his fucking hands up on thursday during the live stream right when
wiz and luda were out there doing their thing aj had a full bot yeah full bot i mean he was out
there doing a full right ain't that right aj yeah absolutely i was killing it unfortunately i had to
uh you know go and go in the back for a little bit i wanted to stay out front and just dance
with all the people yeah i've never seen a guy more uncomfortable i that. Great show. Hey, great performances all around all week long.
Really, really good.
Do you hate being around people?
Is that what it is?
I love being around people, but I tell you,
I like to do things that I'm pretty good at,
and I'm not very good at dancing,
so therefore I don't dance very well.
Oh, yeah, we learned from your wife.
Great slow dancer.
Yeah.
I always claim that.
I'm one of the best slow dancers you'll find.
Well, I appreciate you kind of owning who you are, exactly who you are.
And we appreciate you coming out all last week.
Thank you, AJ.
I enjoyed the hell out of that.
I had a great time out there getting a chance to learn about you a little bit more,
hang around you and realize that you are exactly who you are in this frame every single day.
Just a little bit, you know, different things, different conversations outside of sports.
I appreciate the hell out of you, buddy. make it home it seems like you're alive that's
good i did i made it home i appreciate you for the ride there and back it was uh yeah the whole
week was awesome though like serious it was uh i didn't know what to expect i had zero expectations
going in and exceeded all of them it was just yeah the whole thing was was really cool did you
not think everybody's gonna hate it i thought everybody was gonna hate i just assumed immediately
everybody in here is gonna hate us that was not the case
people were pretty nice yeah everyone seemed to be to be super nice like i don't if they did
hate everything that was going on they they kept it quiet i feel like yeah i think so and they'll
probably leak out linger out yeah that's fine that's all right pat mcphee you know this is
just like in college so in college i had roommates you know obviously you have roommates unless you're living alone in college and you probably got pretty wealthy
parents or whatever but like you have roommates in college and they were all they're all football
guys except for one of them but you know multiple football people lived in the same house we had a
football party and it was at pat mcafee's house you know that was interesting to me it's like well
five five of us oh yeah pat mcafee's was like, okay, so I'll take the blame.
I'll run the stairs here.
I will have a conversation with Rich Rodriguez.
You know, I understand.
Now, I claim that it was a duplex, you see,
and the party was actually at the neighbor's house.
But my house is connected, and I was there.
So, I mean, I guess not my living room, but I guess kind of my place.
You know, that's what I said.
Don't give me – don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining,
Rich Rodriguez told me. But it feels like anything that's going to happen, I will be down my back and tell me it's raining. Rich Rodriguez told me.
But it feels like anything that's going to happen,
I will be taking the blame for all of it.
I don't want to let you know.
It's the right move to do.
And I would do it 100 times out of 100 times.
Because the performance that you put on last week, it was a long week.
The performance all you guys did, I appreciate you so much.
That was a fun week we'll talk about forever.
Thank you.
Your performance as well.
No, no, no, no.
You guys fucking killed it.
I appreciate you.
You had a duet.
You featured on Wiz Khalifa three songs that he sang.
That's pretty good.
You also did pay it forward big time on Friday.
I mean, you were one of the last people to leave Radio Row there until about 7, 30, 8 o'clock,
making the rounds, doing all those shows.
You didn't have to do that.
Thursday as well.
I don't know about any of that.
You did a thousand interviews.
Yeah.
Well, it was interesting.
A lot of high school. You know, but Thursday as well. I don't know about any of that. You did 1,000 interviews. Yeah, well, it was interesting. So I got a call today from one of our marketing partners, we'll say.
Oh, okay.
I don't want to give him away because he said something hilarious.
He said, hey, I want to let you know,
one of the shows you did an interview for called me and reached out to me and said they would like to get that show sponsored, right?
And I asked them what their normal downloads are. they would like to get that show sponsored right and i asked them
what their normal downloads are they said 10 people download that show normally and they're
expecting a little bit more and they just want a chance to maybe get an affiliate deal make them
look professional or whatever he said so you were doing interviews on shows that had 10 downloads
do you know that and i was like i didn't know that all i know was all week these people who
were very nice to us very cool to us would come immediately after the show and say,
hey, will you come on my show?
Will you come on my show?
I'm out there.
Hey, I'll get you Thursday or Friday.
I said Thursday or Friday, I'm going out there.
I can't go now Thursday or Friday.
Then Thursday came.
I'm like, hey, I'm going out there tomorrow.
I'm going to go out there tomorrow.
I'm doing salary cap gymnastics here, kicking a can down the road,
kicking a can down the road, kicking a can down the road, kicking a can down the road.
And then Friday came and there was a full like, OK, what am I going to do?
Am I going to fuck over all of these people?
I can't do that.
But once I go out for one person, what are you supposed to do?
Just in the middle of that thing, say fuck off.
And everybody was so nice and so cool.
A lot of the young podcasters, there was a lot of college broadcasters there getting a chance to chat with
them and them asking like real questions and saying cool stuff.
I loved it,
but it was a lot of fucking me talking.
That's why this vocal cord that has been very rampant for about 34 years
straight.
Now I think I came out yelling by the way.
It's a little beat up.
I'm excited for the break,
but you all absolutely crushed it.
I appreciate the hell out of you guys. AJ, the break is going to be too long. I'm going to miss you out there, dude. I'm excited for the break, but you all absolutely crushed it. I appreciate the hell out of you guys.
AJ, the break is going to be too long.
I'm going to miss you out there, dude.
I'm going to miss you out there.
Yeah, it does seem to be long.
I'm glad it times up.
I didn't know about this break until a couple, I don't know, maybe five, ten days ago.
So it was good, actually.
Without even speaking, we both, I have to, we're going on our Buckeye Cruise deal that we always go on.
Oh!
It's Buckeye Cruz.
It times up.
I was worried I was going to miss a whole week of shows.
It's a cult party.
Ain't no party like a cult, cult party,
because a cult, cult party don't stop
until you donate every dollar that you got.
Right?
I mean, that's what we do with these things.
Yeah, I mean, you know how cult.
I guess, yeah, there's good Colts and bad Colts.
I guess it's a good one.
Believe me, a lot of college football fan bases are Colts.
I'm happy you're going there.
I'll be getting away as will the boys,
but we haven't even got a chance to chat with you, AJ.
It is time now.
Matthew Stafford is a Super Bowl champion, AJ.
He was traded out of the NFC North.
He finally spoke up after a dozen years.
He said, in my Baker dozen year, I'm not doing the same shit I did the last 12 years.
I need to get out of here.
Nothing but love for all of you.
Another turnover.
Another failure.
I need to get out of here.
What are you going to do?
Boom.
He goes to Cabo.
Meets with McVay in a hot tub.
Then a pull.
Then Andrew Whitworth, the Walter Payton Man of the Year, 40-year-old plus, left tackle,
first ever to play in a Super Bowl.
There's only two other 40-year-olds that have played in a Super Bowl,
one a Super Bowl, they're both quarterbacks.
He's doing it at left tackle.
The party then went to his room, which was a suite.
He was having a good time.
McVay and Matthew Stafford party, they make the trade happen.
They're going all in.
Then they bring in Von Miller.'re going all in then they bring
in Von Miller then they bring in Odell Beckham Jr. and at all these times people were saying
they were bringing in distractions aside from Von Miller now Von Miller seemed to get pretty
positive but nobody really thought that this was going to work out because this is not what
NFL teams normally do now in the past couple years teams have done this and won, but a lot of people thought in L.A., all these personalities,
people thought that Detroit won the trade
when they picked up Jared Goff's $100 million contract
and inevitably sucked.
They won the trade at the time.
Everybody says, the Rams are now the champions.
The future is in doubt for a lot of their players,
McVay included in the coaching department, Aaron Donald.
But how pumped are you for them?
And how excited are you for the NFL in the future that when Peyton left, he got the keys to the building.
He won a Super Bowl in Denver.
Tom leaves.
He gets the keys to Tampa Bay.
He wins a Super Bowl.
Matthew Stafford goes to Los Angeles.
They go all in around him.
He wins a Super Bowl.
This is going to change the NFL, I think, AJ.
This is going to change a lot of things. Yeah, think for some of these these vet QBs I know Russell Wilson
has already he already has a Super Bowl ring and played in another but if Russ goes somewhere else
and ends up getting a ring like in the first year then that that would put you know this thing gets
in motion again and again I don't know if they're setting like the tone for something that we could
see a lot of quarterbacks do but it's worked out for the guys that have done it so far. How happy are you for
the Matthew Savernet-Ramseyman? Did you expect
this going into the weekend? We both covered,
by the way, we both picked the Bengals. Congrats to us.
But
whenever we were walking around L.A.,
Stoney baloneyed.
Okay?
Stoney baloneyed walking around.
Alright? We were talking a lot
because people would ask us if they recognized that.
Who do you got in the game?
Like people at little stores, little pop-up shops, restaurants were walking around.
A lot of love in California, by the way.
Thank you, California.
Thank you, California.
A lot of love in California everywhere we went.
From people that I would have never expected either.
There were some interestingly dressed dudes that came up and said they were massive fans of ours.
I'm like, I had no idea that you were maybe in our demo.
But that is amazing.
Good for us.
Thanks for rocking along.
Everybody would ask, hey, who you got?
Who you got?
Who you got?
And every single time, it was like, Rams could win by 60.
And it'd be like, eh, that makes sense.
The Bengals could come back and win that thing close
i don't think any of us saw rams in a dog fight being underdogs until the last drive
now honestly i don't think any of us thought that but what did you think about the game
well i guess it was how the bangles like that's how they play keep their hang around they find
a way they make big plays over the top uh and then in the second half i feel like the bangles
kind of had control of the game for a large part
after Odell went down and the Rams offense
was kind of sputtering. It was
cool to see what Joe Burrow and them were
still doing. And man, they were up with
five minutes to go, correct? Yeah.
5.30, they're up four. That's insane.
That's when I was thinking like, alright, wow, the Bengals
may be Super Bowl
champs here. But then, obviously,
Stafford, the no look to Cooper Cup over the middle
was unbelievable.
Cooper Cup, his little route in the throw on the final touchdown was crazy.
Aaron Donald, their whole defense, man, it was a thing of beauty by the Rams,
I think, like finding a way to win that game.
Hey, by the way, the no look was like –
Nobody noticed either in the moment really, did they?
I think the internet noticed
that's why the internet was like hey will somebody fucking go get that clip that nobody
that our chris might have missed and alan chris by the way if they when you see that in real time
might have been looking at something else like might have been looking at maybe hendrickson a
block that whitworth did whatever the case but him turning his head this way and throwing a dime on a
must-have it drive in the Super Bowl with 200 million people watching.
Yeah.
That is so awesome, so filthy.
I mean, he's got to be jacked up about that.
His legacy now has completely changed.
He's definitely a Hall of Famer now, right?
Like an immediate Hall of Famer, don't you think?
Yeah, I would think so.
And, yeah, I guess the Super Bowl ring is the thing he needed to really put a
stamp on it.
But, yeah, I don't know.
I think, I mean, now they're talking about giving him an extension.
How many Super Bowls do you think he can win out there?
Well, that's the thing.
Let's go on.
I don't know how many they can win.
It seems like they're going to go all in.
And with the way old Cronky pays and spends, I mean, that $5.5 billion stadium is supposed to be, what, $2 billion or something like that?
Which none of us understood in L.A. how a stadium was going to be cheaper than other stadiums in Dallas or other.
How is L.A. going to be cheaper than that whenever the projections came?
But then being 150% over projection,
I mean, that's a lot of billions when you start out.
Kroenke doesn't care.
Fuck it.
Yeah, come on.
Who do you want?
You want Fon Mill?
Yep, fuck it.
Hey, we got to give up all of our picks to get Stafford, who's also expensive.
Yep.
Fuck those picks and fuck it.
Give me that thing.
I mean, Kroenke will build a way.
And LA's a desirable place for people.
Now, I think it's because of the weather, I think.
Big part of it.
I think in large part, yeah, the weather plays a role.
They're going to have to watch a lot of people buying shoes out there.
I mean, there is human
shit i mean you hey listen you gotta fucking when you're walking i'm a big walk with my eyes up guy
too like i like seeing people seeing the world i like seeing society out there it's a lot of like
you're doing it's almost like you're doing a ladder drill yeah you know i mean like you're
they tell you not to keep your feet down so you can go faster or keep your eyes down so you can
go faster but when you're walking there you literally have to have a full,
oh, a little icky shuffle through the poop.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
How am I supposed to look up when I can't see the ladder?
Oh, there's poop everywhere.
That's what you got to do in L.A.
A lot of new shoes I was wearing.
One pair of Air Forces just got completely smeared with what?
I don't know.
It seemed to be diarrhea from some bum that probably had those vegan cookies
that were ordered to the house.
But the weather was beautiful.
It was so nice.
There's so much money out there, AJ.
Where is it all at?
I don't know.
Me and you stopped by a house where I feel like a lot of that money went to earlier.
I'm sure we'll touch on that at some point in a later date.
But I feel like, yeah, it was fun.
It was fun to get out there and walk around and kind of see how L.A. has changed
since the last time I've been there.
There's been a lot of quotes from people that say, you know,
over the last 10 years, my trips to L.A. have changed.
Oh.
Okay.
Oh, so.
In a super-duper positive way.
Yeah.
Like, every time we go out there.
I think everybody just stays in their houses now.
You get good internet, you get a massive house,
you have the perfect weather, you make content, and then you're done.
Boom.
Sure, because you don't want to have to wear a fucking house, you have the perfect weather, you make content, and then you're done. Boom.
Sure, because you don't want to have to wear a fucking mask everywhere you go.
They dropped that.
Aren't they dropping that?
Wednesday of the day.
Wednesday of the day, yeah.
You just missed it, Diggs.
Fuck that.
Diggs screaming at a crowd in L.A. with security and cops and protocols,
I ain't wearing that fucking mask.
Right to these people that are being forced to wear masks. mean it was a what it seems is so contradictory and hypocritical let's talk about
um let's talk about the rock okay yeah so how how did that come together i'm not 100% sure it's the
fucking rock i guess that's just kind of he probably was the one to pitch the idea he is
a part of the peacock family which led off one of the Super Bowl commercials because
Young Rock.
Young Rock led off one of these Super Bowl commercials.
Now, the guest that will be in our third hour, Brock Lesnar, also led off a Peacock commercial.
He was yelling, ah!
My voice was talking about the word stupendous.
I was kind of in a Super Bowl commercial, I fucking think.
Hell yeah.
If your voice is in there, you absolutely were in a Super Bowl commercial, I fucking think. If your voice was in there,
you absolutely were in a Super Bowl commercial.
That's pretty cool. That's crazy.
I bet you got paid a ton of money, didn't you, for that?
Yeah, business-wise, not great, I don't
think, but I fucking love
WWE. I don't care.
I mean, Dr. Dre put, what, six mil of his own
money into the production of the halftime show
I saw. Well, you know, he lost a good
amount of that just a little bit ago. He can it back anytime he wants though oh yeah how about him on
that piano i mean it was just whatever the case young rock is in the peacock family because he
got picked up for a fifth season i think already hasn't even had its second season wow that's what
young rock's doing it's fucking changing the game each episode 21 minutes i referenced that on uh
i was gonna ask i missed two through i missed two three and four well they'll come out it'll be one Rock's doing. It's fucking changing the game. Each episode 21 minutes. I referenced that on I was going to ask. I missed
2, 3, and 4? Well, they'll come out. It'll be
one more hour. It'll be season 2.
They're very short episodes and they're fucking
unbelievable. But anyways, him
cutting a Attitude
Era promo
at the 50-yard line to
kick off a game worldwide is
unbelievable booking
for The Rock. I mean, what a moment for him and by
the way rock didn't miss hey rock didn't miss both teams were standing didn't it feel kind of
awkward like the kickoff team is lined up the return team's lined up and then i keep cutting
to like zach taylor and everyone i'm like the rock is unbelievable this is a tough stage to do this
he absolutely killed it but what an awkward kind of three minute deal i feel like yeah and if that
was the super bowl that i kicked off, I would have been out there.
I would have liked to see my reaction.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They went over to Sean McVay,
and McVay gave a nod of approval of what was going on.
Then they cut to McPherson, by the way,
who's about to have the kickoff.
He had a nod of approval.
I'm like, this motherfucking McPherson just got motivated by the fucking rock,
and he's going to kick a touchback with a plastic ball,
and he didn't cost me thousands and thousands of dollars.
Okay, so that's where I'm at.
That's where I'm at right now.
He has like a 32-inch waist, by the way, this fucking guy.
That was mentioned in the room I was in too.
Man, he has a tiny waist for how big and jacked this dude is.
Okay, so your room probably pretty similar to ours room if i had to guess throughout the entire the entire thing yeah but
it was like a minute minute and a half oh yeah he went that's not a short promo that was like a
minute and a half not easy to do i know you would specialize in things like that hey no bobblin no
no no i yeah that yeah that's very very difficult there's a few people that could do that i think
you're one of them the rock is one of them i think yeah i think more difficult. There's a few people that could do that. I think you're one of them. The Rock is one of them.
I think more wrestlers.
There's a lot of those guys could do it.
Well, Dan Marino could probably nail it.
No flubs.
No fucking flubs.
There's no fucking flub.
Think about Super Bowl 76 and whatever drone they have filming at that time
cuts in on me.
I'm standing on a tank top and I do a full.
The Rock did a full flex into the camera.
Eyebrow raise.
Oh, yeah.
He was in the middle of a ring in fucking Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
That's awesome.
What a moment.
His arms, obviously, hilarious.
His face hasn't aged, by the way.
I don't know what he's eating.
It hasn't.
I did not love his attire, though.
What?
That was the color of the Super Bowl.
It was a Phil Mages suit.
It was exactly Phil Mages.
No, it's two different colors.
Yeah, it's a dark maroon up top, and then almost like,
it's just like, come on, Dewey.
I thought you were going to have something better than that.
52-inch chest.
Okay.
35-inch waist.
They didn't measure that last night, though.
36-inch waist.
The rock tweeted this out himself.
Oh, from the picture of this? No, this no this is from well this is actually from 2019 so he may have yeah he might be
a 32 yeah i'm a 32 it looked like that yeah it did what every once in a while he'll have some
dumb ass outfits on though and then he will shout out his stylist or whatever and i always want to
go check out the stylist and be like what are we doing doing? Can we not put the fucking rocker, maybe some
matching colors here at one time? Maybe they're no
fashion barrier. Well, I thought maybe
at least wear like a Brahma bowl cut off
or something like that. You might as well have come out
maybe with a guitar. Can you put those stats back
up there? I didn't see them. 52 inch
chest, 36 inch waist,
33 inch thighs, 22 inch bicep.
You got 22 inch brothers.
15 inch feet. Alright. You probably wanted-inch biceps. 15-inch feet.
All right.
He probably wanted to wear his Under Armour gear.
It would have been a great pub, but they probably didn't let him.
That's why.
He should have wore his WWE gear.
Players would have gotten jealous.
Yeah, whatever the case.
He fucking motivated Evan McPherson to kick a goddamn touchback,
and it ruined everything I had going, especially after the tails came out.
Should have been brought out.
Hey, how come you didn't?
Yeah, Powell should have definitely brought it out.
It's a Super Bowl, dude.
Make a play.
How was your reaction whenever you saw heads clearly hit from Billie Jean,
who, incredible tennis player, but she threw that coin maybe 13 yards in front of her.
I mean, can we not get a little flip up and down?
I believe tails falls, you know, up.
Jeez, can't have tails fall down.
Maybe that's why I was asking for the wrong thing.
And maybe because if you lose the coin toss, you win.
And Stafford said tails to Jameson.
Yeah, yeah, because the last eight or nine.
I asked you, though.
Remember when I asked you like a week or two ago,
oh, are you calling tails?
You said, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm not a stooge.
I don't remember that.
That did not happen.
I remember that.
That's the first time you've ever motivated me.
I absolutely asked you on the show.
I said, what are you going to call?
And I asked tails.
And then you made some derogatory comment towards me when I said, okay, you're calling heads, whatever.
That is not true.
No.
That is not true.
You're lying.
Okay.
Check the tape.
You said in the car, hey, you're going to win, man.
I did.
I was hoping.
I was hoping you would win.
I really was.
You said, I think you're going to win.
No, he said on the live stream on Radio Row, it was going to win.
He did.
He did.
So that's the reason why I went with Tails was going to win. He did. He did.
So that's the reason why I went with Tails, by the way.
I never pick heads, though.
No, and I might have, but at some point you said you got it.
So I had nothing but faith in you. Trying to be a good positive influence for you, bud.
I don't need that.
I need what you think it's going to be.
We need winners.
Because now we're debunking stats and we're going 0 for 2 in coin tosses.
You ask Brandon Staley, he said that'll never happen. You'll never go 0 for 2 in coin tosses. Fucking, you ask Brandon Staley?
He said that'll never happen.
You know, you'll never go 0 for 2 on a coin toss.
50-50, one of them has to hit.
That's what the stats and analytics people told me.
I was fucking lied to.
All those people are smarter than me.
They have more degrees than me. They don't even need to use their iPhone calculators for shit.
And they lied to me.
They say you won't be able to go 0 for 2.
No way. It's a coin toss. Now say you won't be able to go for two. No way.
It's a coin toss.
Now, next year, you have to go tails.
I'm staring down over 10 on these coins.
No.
There was no hope at all in this entire thing.
No, next year, I think because of the probability and chances of getting three heads in a row,
it has to be tails.
Yeah, well, we'll see.
We'll see.
We'll check out next year.
Maybe we'll do it again.
Going bigger, though.
Yeah.
Because then in the end, you win one big one,
you beat the two little ones.
Now, you shouldn't do that in gambling at all.
I have the ability to do so.
You should not.
But that's bad gambling, everything.
But that's how you get back.
Well, not to mention.
This is what Adam Sandler was doing in that fucking movie.
Uncut Gems.
And next year's in Arizona.
So we're going to have the whole month out there.
It's illegal out there.
It's legal gambling.
Conor's pushing for an entire month at next year's Super Bowl.
Championship Sunday.
All the way through.
All the way through to the end of the Super Bowl.
There's some breaking news coming out of the Super Bowl.
Obviously, a man who scored a touchdown and looked incredible.
All of his old teammates and current teammates very happy for him.
Rap Sheet is reporting.
Wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. is believed to have torn his ACL
in last night's Super Bowl win. Source said
that means a long road to recovery for the
free agent who has a challenge to be ready for 2022
because it's the last game of the season, obviously.
Beckham had two catches for 52 yards,
one touchdown, and one moonwalk.
Atta baby, Rap Sheet!
Atta baby, Moonwalk, before the injury.
I can't believe his tore his ACL. He was walking around
pretty well. I assumed it was going to as ACL. He was walking around pretty well.
I assumed it was going to be one of the other ligaments,
something that was going to happen.
If he tours ACL, I am very impressed with the toughness.
I'm impressed with the body, obviously.
And he had an incredible, those non-contact,
just all by yourself, hyperextension tears.
That is, I couldn't even, it almost makes me puke thinking about it, his ACL.
Hell of a Super Bowl for him, though.
And what a time to get the hell out of Cleveland and win a Super Bowl, AJ.
Yeah, I was happy that obviously that happened to him.
They won.
You saw him, like, crying on the sidelines when he comes back with the hoodie on.
I was glad he got to score a touchdown and catch another ball actually before that.
So he actually felt like, yeah, I not only won the Super Bowl,
I was a big part of it, too.
Well, and their offense stunk as soon as he, you know.
Yeah.
They stunk as soon as he got out of there.
He doesn't get hurt.
There's a good chance he wins MVP.
Yeah, because they're throwing the ball to Skronkowski.
Yeah, Skronkowski had 15 targets.
What's so funny, AJ?
Can you tell me, what is his name again?
Number 18, Skronkowski.
They've been throwing to him a lot, and guess what?
He doesn't catch very many of them, and he's not close.
The other, you know, 80%. They threw it to him 15, 16 times last night.
He ate a good seven to eight of Cooper Cup targets.
Yeah.
And then when Odell came out, this guy automatically,
he started eating Odell's targets as well.
Matthew Stafford must love this dude.
And I'd assume in practice it's much different than what we see in a game.
You know, because the pick, he literally, I mean,
Stafford could have put it on him a little bit more.
But, I mean, I don't think you should definitely just have your hand palm up.
That was the first ball.
Wasn't that his first ball he got thrown to?
Yeah, but I don't think you should have your palm up
when you're trying to catch ever, right?
That is not, I think that's against a rule or two.
I mean, yeah, when he's going across the middle, he sticks it out there.
Yeah, I don't know exactly.
I got to watch it again to see what he could do.
I've never been a wide receiver, okay? I i've never done that but i have caught a lot of
balls right at a very high percentage my drop rate very very low i feel very good about every time i
went on the field i caught it and you can even count the ref tosses to me for kickoffs okay
so that's why i wore one glove i did that whole thing but he he had one hit him in the face what
like oh yeah like right in the face almost it was like oh that's out of a fucking movie that
guy's in the nfl then he comes in in the super bowl and his first target his first time
we see him since i think getting hit in the face bats it right into somebody's hand to kill them i
mean joey b just hit a toddy throwing jalen ramsey by the face like very quickly that whole thing
happened then they get a pick there that was almost like aaron donald put the fire out from
that bull rush where he just fucking
killed the guy and then put him down but that could have gone ugly there that obviously was
a miss in that entire thing but odell beckham jr getting hurt was a big time deal and i'm happy
odell's going back right he's gonna be he's gonna be back that's what it sounds like with the rams
is he i hope so i hope so during the week that he wanted to go back there well that was before
how does this deal work out with coming off that injury?
Does that change anything on what they will give him?
Yeah.
Will they not?
Yeah.
There's going to have to be another prove-it deal, right?
More incentive.
Maybe just more incentive-laced deal because of it.
Yeah.
Roster bonuses, games played, all that stuff.
What's that?
It's the same knee, too.
That he had a couple years.
How many years back was that?
Is it really?
Joining us now is a man that probably knows more than us about everything in the football world.
Not me, or not AJ, but definitely me and all of us
back here in the office in Indianapolis.
Nine-year NFL vet, host of the Man of Man podcast,
also host of the FanDuel Superstar Showdown,
Darius Butler.
Hey, D-Bud!
What's up, fellas?
D-Bud, how you doing?
I don't know why y'all are still doing it, man.
What?
Doing what?
I got to be running on fumes right now.
Maybe some five-hour energy going through the soul.
A little green tea going through it.
We got a week off, though, tomorrow, so fuck all of it.
We can keep it going, especially to talk to a friend named Darius.
FanDuel Superstar Showdown.
That weren't exactly the plan.
Hey, yeah.
Hey, great time.
I had a great time up there with you guys.
My apologies to Irish Springs.
Favorite soap in the world.
It's Irish Springs.
It's you.
It's Irish Springs.
Oh, no.
D-Bud went after him, and then you came back later and said,
no, it's a great soap or something, I think.
Hey, don't worry.
Hey, listen, we don't care what you said about Irish Springs.
I mean, that's on them.
But I went through an Irish Spring phase.
Oh, yeah.
Good smell. It has a very strong, Spring phase. Oh, yeah. Good smell.
It has very strong, potent smell.
Oh, yeah.
I'm past it now.
But I feel like that's something that should have been run by me before.
A thousand percent.
I mean, I feel like.
Called you off guard.
Called me off guard, too.
So they just got my honest opinion.
Sorry, guys.
Hey, sorry about it.
We appreciate you joining us.
Let's talk about the game.
Last night, Jalen Ramsey was getting targeted a lot.
What was that all about?
Do you think it's because he was going to the main person on that play,
or do you think Joey Burrow was seeking him?
And what does this mean for Jalen going forward?
There was obviously face mask toss on that one touchdown.
He kind of got fucked.
But there was other times where, look, Jamar behind him.
What does this mean for Jalen now that he's a Super Bowl champion?
Do you think legacy-wise, and what do you think
is next for him? He's an unbelievable talent, obviously.
Yeah, I think legacy-wise,
it's getting his rings big time.
And some guys made some plays on him.
The Higgins one, I think
obviously he got away with a face mask
and a throw by there, but Jamar Chase,
he's special, rookie or not.
He's one of those guys.
So one-on-one matchups.
Burrow likes his guys one-on-one against anybody.
You saw the confidence.
Whenever he has time.
Obviously, they got to invest a lot of money into that O-line and blocking them.
Everybody caught, you know, you knew that was the narrative coming into this one.
If they can keep nine clean, they'll have a chance.
But, you know, Aaron Donald, Von Miller, and all those guys up front just harassed him all day.
But the guys on the outside, they're special, man, starting with Chase.
Hey, what do you think, D-Buck?
What was your thoughts on the Logan Wilson, that holding call,
which tough task for anybody to cover Cooper Cup there
when he's running little whip routes and everything.
But what do you think of that call?
It was a good call.
It was a good call.
I think it kind of got bailed out because Stafford made a bad throw after it but it was it was definitely a good call he grabbed him and peter's progress
um and like you said it's a tough task for anybody what cup does better than anyone in the league is
attack and beat leverage so he had like a bracket on and wilson was the inside portion of the bracket
with the safety helping but i mean even if you're just saying okay i'll stay inside 10 i promise i promise it's like he hit you with that crossover and you got to grab
that's your uh instinct to grab him he finished it off and it looked clean uh but if you watch
the whole play i think it was a great i think it was a good call and they got away you know both
teams there's a couple calls but i think the rest for the most part it kind of stayed out of it
obviously made big plays down the stretch big calls calls down the stretch, but I can't point at the refs and have any blame, you know,
on them in this one, this outcome.
I agree, but there was three straight first and goals in a game-winning drive,
I think, from calls, but all of them seemed to be calls.
But they had their, you know,
the flags were a bit sticky to the pockets earlier in the game.
And then I think, you know, some of them looked at the quarter,
oh, we're already in the fourth quarter.
I haven't thrown this thing one time.
People are going to think I didn't actually call a Super Bowl.
You know, it did seem like they got a little bit more active.
But I think you're the first one to say that you thought that was an actual penalty.
It felt like that was the natural reaction to say it was bullshit.
But every game is going to have them go both ways.
Let's talk about Cooper Cup a little bit more here.
So, Cooper Cup, Triple Crown champion.
All right.
Yards catches touchdowns.
Yak leader.
Okay, so yards after catch leader now
he's uh super bowl mvp this dude what makes him so different and is he only going to get better
the more time he's with stafford which they're saying he's negotiating a deal and the more time
he's in the nfl do you think yeah i mean the longer he is if he stays with a quarterback i
mean any quarterback but especially as a guy as talented as stafford i mean he'll only continue to get better and um like every time in a critical situation especially if
you go to zone coverage like he's one of those receivers that you can't be right against in his
own coverage because he's always going to find a space and a guy like stafford can get to the ball
to him anywhere your best bet would be you know trying to bracket him get hands on him early which
since he was successful
when they were doing that, I don't know why they went away
from that. But if you ever drop
back in the zone, he's always going to find the space.
He's going to catch it. And more times than not,
he's going to do something with it after he catches
it. So he's a gamer,
man. This season, we saw
Megatron, his crazy
season. We saw Randy when he broke all the
records before they lost in the Super Bowl.
I didn't see a bunch of the Jerry Rice
crazy season, but this is the best receiver
season from start to finish
that I've ever seen
I think easily. Look at this graphic.
145 receptions,
1,947 yards,
16 receiving touchdowns. Kings
of all those as well, by the way.
That's just regular season, right?
Yeah, absolutely incredible run.
And a great graphic.
And he had 33 catches in the postseason.
Broke that record.
Yeah, this was special, man.
Super Bowl MVP.
Shout out to Cup.
Shout out to Cup.
And shout out to Dirty for this graphic.
Shout out to Dirty.
Shout out to Dirty.
Big Rams guy, man.
I love it for Dirty.
He got all the autographs that he had on this one particular greatest show on turf t-shirt
last week at Radio Row, except for one person.
I mean, unbelievable.
Dirty.
Atta baby, Dirty.
Everybody had a good time, especially at that superstar show that was Dirty.
Hey, hey.
What is that?
We had to celebrate the victory early.
D-Bot, do you think, given what the Rams did with Von Miller and OBJ,
like are they kind of the new bucks now where you think a lot of vets are going to take pay cuts
to try to go there and ring chase next year?
I mean, yeah.
I mean, it's L.A. too.
You know, L.A., you know, that's a great city to be in,
especially if you already made a bunch of money in your career.
D-Bot.
The traffic.
The traffic.
The poop.
Some other things that I won't speak about, you guys may speak about.
But outside of that, if you already made a bunch of money in your career,
that's a good place to go out and play and live.
And, I mean, you got a quarterback.
You went all in, and it worked.
I mean, I'm interested to see if another team, you know, tries this next year.
This is back-to-back years now.
You got the Bucs did it last year, obviously Rams this year.
So who tries this next year?
D-Butt, on that note, Peyton leaves, wins a Super Bowl.
Tom leaves, wins a Super Bowl.
Matthew Stafford leaves, he wins a Super Bowl.
It just feels like, you know, other quarterbacks around the league aren't stupid
and they're seeing this entire thing.
And now there's already rumors of who wants out, who might want out.
This is going to become a thing.
And teams better either catch up or figure out how to not let their dudes leave.
Right?
I mean, this is real.
That's it.
You know, we got some guys out there.
We got Aaron.
We got Russell.
Live.
We got who else is out there? Kyler's
making some noise, but I wouldn't put him in that
category yet.
Hey, they're trying to smear
Kyler right now.
All the stories that are
being leaked anonymously, have you heard this?
Yeah.
You knew it was going to come out.
You knew that was going to happen.
If that's true, then also.
He played like shit.
You know, he didn't play good.
Cliff, you can't let Cliff off the hook either.
He didn't coach well.
They kind of dropped the ball down the stretch.
But you can't look at, you know, Kyler and say it wasn't.
Like, he doesn't.
He should own it.
He got to own some of that.
But it's a different generation.
And guys, I got no problem with guys kind of calling their shots
and trying to even push their way out or whatever. But, I mean, you hear the stories. He's a different generation. And guys, I got no problem with guys kind of calling their shots and trying to even push their way out or whatever.
But, I mean, you hear the stories.
He's a me guy.
He's this, that, and third.
I don't know how true they are.
But I hope the best for Kyler and other Cardinals, man.
But they look like they went all in this year, too.
And it was looking good at the beginning.
But they figured it off late, man.
Got to figure it out.
Oh, and Phoenix, like fifth largest city in America.
It is gorgeous out there. It is a beautiful city. Got to figure it out. And Phoenix, like fifth largest city in America. It is gorgeous out there.
It is a beautiful city.
That team went all in.
I mean, there is everything there.
So I don't know what Kyler's upset about, but all these, you know,
narratives that are right now being painted by anonymous sources about his
selfishness and at halftime he goes into his locker and either calls his
girlfriend or plays video games.
I forget what it was.
What?
Calls his girlfriend or puts his earbuds in
and isolates himself from the team at halftime.
This is via Chuck Harris, at Chuck H3.
If this is true, then it further magnifies the complete failure
of the entire organization for top down.
Agreed, letting that happen.
But there's a reason all these stories are coming out, right?
There has to be.
Wait, letting him do his halftime thing?
What's that?
Calling his girlfriend or playing in the?
Yeah, I mean, I don't like when, you know, shit like that comes out when it's this time. Letting him do his halftime thing? What's that? Calling his girlfriend or playing in the – Yeah.
I mean, I don't like when, you know, shit like that comes out when it's this time. You know, because when he's winning it and nobody has a problem with it,
but it just goes south.
I mean, I'm not a fan of quarterbacks.
That's the time when you got to make adjustments.
You got to give them the same page with everybody.
So, definitely not a fan of that.
But also, what guys do in the locker room at halftime, pregame,
everybody has their own little different thing.
Concur.
Agree completely.
I can't.
Yeah, I can't.
But the reason why these are coming out,
the reason why they're coming out is obviously to try to paint Kyler
in a negative manner after everything has gone on with the Instagram.
Now, Kyler has come out as well, right?
Him erasing everything from his Instagram is kind of saying this organization,
you know, kind of something about him.
So they're answering now with this. The truth
probably lies somewhere in the center.
But now, no other team is
going to want to trade for somebody that's like that, right?
So whoever's doing that is kind of
cutting off any exit options, right?
I think, personally, they're
trying to right now. I think people would still be willing
to trade for Kyler. You think so, AJ?
Yeah, if they got the right information from the right people
and they felt comfortable, I think they would take it.
Okay, whatever.
If any of this is true, we will trade that
and try to figure that out for how good he is
and what he can do on the field.
Man, Phoenix is such a beautiful place.
Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, Deep Bud, have you ever seen someone take it on the shins
like Eli Apple did on the internet yesterday?
And do you think that was warranted?
Everybody.
For sure warranted.
I mean, you put that target on your back, and I would never suggest anybody do it, especially a corner.
It's just a tough position.
But he wanted it.
You know, he was talking shit to everybody, players, fans.
He wanted it.
He wanted to kind of be the heel.
And, you know, he got smoked.
That happens on an island, especially, you know,
when you're out there with a guy like Cup.
He had some bad – you know, it was bad, man.
I hate to see a guy go through that, especially at that position.
But you can't feel bad for him when he kind of begged for that attention.
So, you know, the internet is unforgiving, man.
They're going to get you.
Yeah, and I like the fact that you said he made his bed.
He's going to sleep in it.
But I've never seen a unified front like this across the NFL.
A lot of blue check NFL guys like, yep, all right, you're doing it.
I fucking hate him too.
And I think the good news for Eli is he's probably staying away from his phone anyways.
Sure.
I think he's probably staying away from his phone after that.
Corners have to, right?
Have to stay away from their phone.
Got to.
Yeah, yeah. That's something you probably teach. from his phone after that. Corners have to, right? Have to stay away from their phone. Got to. Yeah, yeah.
That's something you probably teach.
Yeah, you got to.
Yeah.
And it's bad because that defense, you know, that defense played well, man.
Especially after the over-the-catch.
Yeah, Kaj Aruba.
Kaj Aruba.
Talking about that.
Hey, dominant.
But that defense played well.
Obviously, you know, Apple gave up some big plays.
But, you know, Matt Stafford Cup, when the game was on the line,
they made plays.
But there was a stretch there where it was a long time
that they couldn't, you know, get anything going.
The run game was pretty much eliminated.
But, you know, it comes down to one or two plays in those type of games.
So Rams figured it out.
Bengals didn't.
I'm trying to see the graphic in my head right now.
I think they had 83 yards in like seven series after –
or six series after Odell Beckham Jr.
got hurt or something like that. I think it was like only 83
yards or something. And that Cincinnati Bengals
defense shut down Patrick Mahomes.
Shut him down in the second half. How you
doing? Keep it moving. You're doing nothing.
And we are going to win. 21-3, obviously
they come back from 18.
It's insanity. The fact that Matthew
Stafford and Cooper Cupp were able to do
that on the biggest stage, against that good of a defense that was able to do that, I think it's huge. I think it's huge for Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cupp were able to do that on the biggest stage against that good of a defense,
I was able to do that.
I think it's huge.
I think it's huge for Matthew Stafford.
Go ahead, Diggs.
D-Boy, you ever been inactive for some reason or hurt for some reason
and a guy gone interception, you ran 93 yards in your flip-flops
to go celebrate?
Hey, follow-up question before you even get to that.
Sideline of the Super Bowl, you're wearing flip-flops?
Go ahead.
I'll let you.
That was bad ball all around. you even get to that, sideline of the Super Bowl, you're wearing flip flops. Go ahead. I'll let you.
That was bad ball all around. Watching it live, I'm like, talking to my brothers, like,
bro, what the fuck is he doing? Like on the field, because you saw him on the field pushing,
celebrating, but I didn't hear the announcers really speak on it at that time. And then when they came back, you know, they saw the flag and the taunting and you saw him running
out there flip flop. I'm like, maybe you get caught up in a moment.
Maybe he thought he had his uniform on.
He did have his hood up, so maybe it was like a moment.
He had his AirPods in.
He had a phone.
Bad ball.
I know halftime, you know, and that was a critical situation, too.
You get a pick.
It's a touchback.
After a pick, the touchback comes out to what, a 20?
20, yeah.
Okay, come out at 20, so now you're not half the distance.
You're back at the 10.
Don't get any points.
I know at halftime, he was definitely in there fully dressed,
sitting on the shitter like, let's get this shit over with.
Dude, flip-flops on a sideline of the Super.
That was like you could have any shoe game in the world there.
Facts.
That's usually what cats flex.
You know, the chains, the shoes.
Just bad ball.
Come on.
It feels like Hargraves maybe doesn't really give a fuck.
He's wearing flip-flops on the sidelines of Super Bowls on the field.
I mean, that's the type of mentality you need.
That's the type of mentality.
Look at those things down there.
Come on.
Absolutely love it.
Go ahead, Ty.
You already asked the butt.
Connor got yours.
Tone got yours.
AJ got yours.
Darius, we can't thank you enough, brother.
We're going to have to get to a break.
We will see you next week or sometime hopefully sooner than that, pal.
Let's do it, man.
Appreciate you guys.
No problem.
What do you got today?
You just dad of the year-ing down there?
Yeah, dad of the year.
I'm going to show Rally later on.
Who?
What show is that?
Valley Sports.
They got a new show, Rally.
Actually, your guy Shams
he's one of the hosts
over here
Shams
hey Shams won
the trade deadline
he did
you saw that
he did
it was a turn of the tide
with Woe Jazz
got him
I like it
love to see it
me too
younger generation
coming in
just knocking
the old whites out
see ya
sorry
see ya Paul
ladies and gentlemen
thanks for an incredible season.
You're the best.
Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Perlman.
Hey, ladies and gentlemen.
First-time guest joining us in the studio,
obviously, AJ Hawk to my left,
to your right.
Tone Diggs is here.
The Toxic Table at Boston Corner
at Ty Schmidt.
And joining us is a one-of-one,
the alpha male of our species,
former UFC heavyweight champion,
current WWE icon and legend, college national champion wrestler, ladies and gentlemen, one
time NFL player, Brock fucking Lesnar.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Tip of the cap.
How you doing?
Hail Mary full of grace.
May the Lord be with you doing? Hail Mary full of grace
And also with you
It's a great start
So we're talking about the rocks and by the way, thank you for coming. Yeah
Thank you so much. No, we appreciate I got to meet you obviously at a WWE event
Backstage and you had the obviously this aura around you backstage because you've been around for so long.
You're OG over there.
And everybody has the utmost respect.
And I remember just going like, holy fuck, Brock Lesnar's here.
And I remember walking over and introducing myself because I felt like it was the right thing to do.
And you were fucking awesome.
You have been so nice to me through this entire thing.
And I appreciate you stopping by before Raw tonight, boss.
I appreciate it, man. And it was just the, I was a big fan of yours. And it was an honor to meet you through this entire thing and I appreciate you stopping by before Raw tonight, boss. I appreciate it, man.
And I,
it was just the,
I was a big fan of yours and it was an honor
to meet you
and I just got a good vibe.
You know how you get
a good vibe
when you get good handshakes
and, you know,
good people
and so,
I have to tell you,
though,
like,
you make the show.
Friday nights,
like,
your color commentary
is,
bar none, like,
the best. Hey, don't break the table, obviously. No!
I just break shit.
Sorry, man. What do you make?
You make like 50 million dollars.
You've got a jerk ass table.
What?
Could you face the microphone?
Look at this oh man
it's gonna fall again
that was amazing
one man
well that's good
it would be great
did you hurt your hands
obviously not
nothing could hurt your hands
no
I'm just like
just making sure
it ain't gonna
hey hey
great job putting it back together
wow
that was a fast one
unbelievable
oh
I was once told to think about you as Bam Bam right to think about you job putting it back together again. Wow. Craftsman. Unbelievable. Whoa.
I was once told to think about you as Bam Bam, right?
To think about you as an adult version of Bam Bam.
I literally just got to witness both hands up and both hands down.
Happy we were able to figure that out.
You're a very nice man saying great things because for a long time at WWE, you're obviously the marquee.
Hey, you've been doing this a long time.
When you got into the WWE Did you just know like naturally
You loved it
You enjoyed it
You were good at it
And this was going to be your career path
No I had no idea
I started wrestling when I was five years old
Grew up in Webster, South Dakota
On a dairy farm
And we
Wrestling was just a passion
We didn't watch TV
Didn't have you know
It was just
We worked and tried to make a living, right?
So you didn't even know professional wrestling was a thing?
I did not watch professional wrestling until I got to college.
And then it was on in the dorms.
Like all the guys were in the congregational hall or whatever.
Yeah, lobby.
Monday Night Raw was on.
And there was the war, the Monday Night Raw was on, and it was the war,
the Monday Night Raw and Monday Night Nitro and all that.
That's a great era.
And I was like, I'd watch it for a little bit,
and then I got recruited to the University of Minnesota
and was there wrestling.
And then next thing I know, I'm getting phone calls from the WWE,
and it's like, well, that might be kind of cool.
Well, yeah, I'd say.
And by the way, the WWE heard about this.
So let me get this straight.
This guy's a college wrestler.
He grew up with no television, out on a farm,
and he's a better wrestler than everybody.
And Vince McMahon was like, yeah, we would fucking love to have you.
That type of, you are one of one. Whenever I say like alpha male of our species that's a real thing dude like
I told you this uh I think in person uh one of the times we were chatting I don't know if you
could hear me or not but whenever you came out on Smackdown or you heard the clip I literally said
like hey if an extraterrestrial species came down like in a a pod. Like they came down as a crew.
They came down, and they did their thing, and they parked it.
And they said, we're going to send our best fighter out,
and you bring your best fighter or toughest,
and whoever wins gets Earth.
Every fucker on Earth would say, all right, send Brock Lesnar.
Von Lesnar.
That's literally who it is.
There's a lot of bad men out there, too.
I've been in the UFC, and I'm a humble person.
You know, Donald, this guy's a freak, too.
You guys spent time talking about him, Aaron.
Aaron Donald, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That guy's a freak.
I mean, there's one percenters of one percenters, and, you know,
I'll humbly say it.
But, you know But I appreciate that.
I've never even really looked at myself like that.
I just kind of envisioned that hard work, and it just pays off and all that.
And that's how I just stuck to my guns with that.
So when you go to the UFC, you have to hear all the people saying,
oh, this wrestling guy, right?
Because they kind of don't.
You're an amateur wrestling background.
Dude, I started, like, I was fighting as a kid.
Like, so we didn't, like, my older brother's no joke.
And if you, like, you know,
the local people from Webster, South Dakota will tell you,
the Lesnar family were fighters.
And so I grew up six years younger than my two older brothers
who were getting out of jail on Monday mornings to go to school
because of street fights and, you know.
So I grew up with that stigma. We didn't go, I didn't, we mornings to go to school because of street fights and, and, you know, so I grew up
with that stigma.
We didn't go,
I didn't,
we went to street dances.
I went there to fight.
Well,
that's,
that's what we did.
That's what I did anyway.
And then it was girls
after that.
Maybe I'll get,
have a couple drinks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Those are different orders.
Yeah.
Different orders for me.
I was going to fight
and then,
you know.
Yeah.
Do your thing.
Yeah.
Other people are doing much differently and hoping not to fight that was kind of your your thing all i just
and then my mom said you know what like you should like go you got to make some money with this stuff
if you're gonna you know like because it just cost it put my mom and dad through hell yeah i
could imagine we were fighting all the time my brothers would fight like it was just world war three in
our house i fought my older brothers uh you know put them through the kitchen tables when i finally
grew up and then you know i had enough of their shit like what year what year how old were you
i'm probably 18 oh when it all happened yeah when you know so uh yeah i put my brother through
the china cabinet and and you know and then my mom dad just probably cracked the beer like yeah this needed to happen so when you go to the ufc finally and you're an incredible
amateur wrestler and by the way your amateur wrestling background and resume should have
warranted more respect i think than when people were talking about you because you were coming
from the wwe with that being said zero fear at all felt very comfortable in the cage total comfort
yeah and i surrounded myself with really good guys and, you know, good.
I took it very seriously. It wasn't me. You know, I was, you know, we're going to go to the gym and
I'm going to work on this. I hired, you know, the best jujitsu guys, the best, you know, stand up
guys that could coach me. And so I really took it seriously. And it was very humbling, you know, my first fight in UFC against Frank
because I had prepared for the knee bar so many times.
And I actually probably a million times had prepared how to get out
and counter what he got me in.
And it was like I was in practice drilling in how to get out of it.
And so I was like, oh, shit, this is happening.
Yeah, that's good.
I'm done.
And I was like so mad at myself.
And it just kind of built another thing that the people, you know,
ram down your throat and say you can't do something.
Yeah, yeah.
Love those people.
They're the best.
They're the best.
Yeah.
So I get goosebumps for that.
So I'm like, well, all right.
Dana, I was like, I had a one-fight deal.
And I was like, please, just give me another shot at this.
So then, boom.
And then it just took off.
I fought Heath Haring.
And then I got Randy Couture and won the belt.
Yeah.
And then cut that promo on the beer, yeah.
What?
What?
What?
What?
What?
What? What? What? What? What? You're not paying me enough.
Fuck off, what?
What?
That was amazing.
Go ahead, AJ.
AJ's on the screen.
I don't know if you can hear me or not, Brock.
Obviously a big fan.
What's it like dealing with Dana White?
You might have to relay that to him.
Hold on.
No, no.
Keep the cowboy hat so cool.
Just pull.
Yeah, you don't need to take it off.
How about this?
Okay.
Can you hear him?
What?
Can you hear me, Brock?
What?
What?
What?
What? What? Now you look awesome, Brock? What? What? What?
What?
Now you look awesome.
Are you there?
What?
Yeah, you got me?
Gotcha.
He's got me.
Hey, what's it like dealing with Dana White?
What's your relationship like with him?
I guess from back then up until now, you guys close?
Yeah, Dana's all right.
I mean, I've got a lot of money from him.
You made a lot of money for him you know you made a lot of money for him yeah yeah probably yeah i probably should have got paid more well that's a big conversation
around the ufc yeah whenever you do business outside the wwe and everybody calls dana basically
a spitting image of vince just in a different fight game do you agree with that uh i don't know
i i really can't compare the two guys
they're just so i mean honestly my relationship with vince is so different than it is with dana
over the years um vince and i have had a love-hate relationship for you know the last 20 years but
it's been good we've got a lot of water under the bridge. I have a lot of respect for both men.
But, you know, dealing with Dana, it's just a totally different business approach. You met Vince when you were younger.
I met Vince when I was younger.
I look at Vince more as a father figure, actually, you know,
because I've learned a lot of things from him.
And I was able to carry those things over and handle business with Dana.
So, I mean, Vince is a self-made
person so is Dana you know took took the company and and they done and made it public and made a
you know bunch big big hey congrats on that congrats on that cash by the way so
do you feel at all is a business though I feel like you're a very good businessman and that is
just from hanging out with you a few different times
but also being a fan for a long time and watching you work
and watching what you do, when you do it, how you do it.
I feel like you're an incredible businessman,
even though you just hung out on the farm with no TV fighting people all the time.
Well, I appreciate that, but I don't.
I just handle things, I think, old school,
and I don't spend my money foolishly, I don't think.
What do you do on a day-to-day, by the way?
You don't spend your money foolishly.
I've gotten a chance to chat with you a few times.
He does not spend his money foolishly.
I mean, I'll get a picture every once in a while from literally,
there is a 10-mile radius from where he is to the next human even the chance of a human
and there is an ice fishing
trailer up there
hey how many Celsius
pal how many Fahrenheit
which one is the Canadian one
Saskatchewan probably minus 20 if I'm not mistaken
minus 28
you got it
anyways though it feels like you're still that same exact person you always have been,
but you have obviously landed in the middle of an incredibly successful business run because
you're a freak show athlete out there.
So I love that you still just, he's out in the middle, I mean, out in the middle of nowhere
doing your thing.
What does a day look like for you?
Well, I mean, when COVID hit, I had years ago i i bought land in saskatchewan
you know uh because i hunted there and then came across this farm for sale and and then i just kept
buying land and then you can't own land in canada unless you're a resident or or you know get your
citizenship so then well okay i'll move there and live there and get our residency
and then more land's coming for sale and making land investments with my money
and hedging my stocks and bonds and buying land and farming.
So I grew up as a farm kid, dirt poor.
You know what, I'm going to give a good crack at this farming thing now that I got some money.
What you would have done if you were able to.
Yeah.
And so then I got two boys, and I want them little bastards to know how to work.
So they ain't getting no free ride.
So get out there and fucking start picking some stones.
So that's what I do.
And I have a full-time functioning farm.
We farm small grains, 5,000 acres.
I got great employees.
And then when COVID hit, you know, my contract was up with Vince.
But prior to all that, I'm into hunting and fishing and spending time with the fam
and just being low-key, snowmobiling, ice fishing, bow hunting, rifle hunting.
What?
You know?
What?
Ass whooping.
What?
That's a lesser day.
That's a lesser day.
So then I got to, over the years, butchering these animals and doing this stuff in my garage.
And I'm like, I need a fucking butcher shop. Yeah, you do.
And so then I build my butcher shop.
I build a big-ass butcher shop that needs to be bigger because I got more cool shit in here.
So I'm like
butchering these animals now and then
I'm, you know, everything's on
lockdown and I'm trying to learn
butchering stuff. So I'm on YouTube.
You know, this thing called fucking YouTube
coming up. Hey, hey, a lot of money to be
made there, bro. Right on, hey.
Hey, real fucking cowboys
out here, you know. So I'm
Googling butchers and the bearded fucking butchers show up all the time.
These guys, they're from Ohio.
Of course.
Professional, and they got all this cool stuff going on online.
And I'm learning my trade and helping from learning know, from... Yeah, learning. Learning. Yeah.
From these guys.
So I'm like,
then another good buddy of mine,
Zach Brown, says,
Hey, I know you. I've got some good friends
that live down the street.
Got a good looking woman
with her eye around me.
We might get a copyright strike
because of how close we fucking sat.
We're all in the same boat.
We're all in the same boat.
So Zach's like, we're up in Alaska.
And Zach's like, I've got to get you in touch with these bearded butchers.
And I'm like, yeah, you do.
I've watched them guys.
Then I just hit it off.
These guys are like my long-lost Viking brothers.
You are a Viking, right?
You would describe yourself as that?
You think that is why you are bigger, stronger, faster than everybody else?
I guess.
I was born in the wrong century.
Way wrong.
But you meet up with the bearded butchers.
Yeah, I meet up with the butchers
and went out took my kids out there we slaughtered some animals you know and we we did the whole
thing spent you know like four days out there and and so yeah that that's what that's what i've been
doing i enjoy my butcher shop i love like getting out there uh with grinding my own meat up.
Working.
Working with my own seasonings and all that stuff.
Oh, that's a whole, let's get right to you. Yeah, so if we can do a little marketing.
Boom!
Absolutely, by the way.
We've been using this at the office for the last month, month and a half.
You've got a winner here.
I believe so.
So between me and the Butchers, we came out this seasoning,
and I love it and give itchers, we came out with this seasoning, and I love it.
Give it a whirl, man.
Yeah, go to beardedbutchers.com, and you can get the Brock Lesnar blend.
It's so good.
Yes.
Yeah, it's so good.
No bullshit.
It is unbelievable.
It goes on everything.
Yeah, we've gone through.
Yeah, there you go.
I got the seasoning.
It tastes so damn good.
Hey!
It can't.
Don't mess with my cheese balls at all.
I'll get my seasoning.
It tastes so damn good.
Hey!
We've eaten it every day for like a month.
I appreciate it.
It's damn good.
Yeah, it is damn good.
And congrats.
Oh, hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
What?
What?
Steve's a good dude, too.
Okay. We can dive into that
In a little bit
But I would like to
Yeah
Because the amount of
Things you've experienced
In WWE
UFC in your life
Is obviously insane
But whenever you
Land on that particular
Seasoning
Do you say
Yup
Home run
Best meet
I've ever fucking had
Yeah
We
Yeah
It's
It was just one of them things
Where we
We just put our Mask Thank you man Hey there's a one of them things where we, we just put our mask.
Thank you, man.
Hey, there's a lot of seasoning on there, man.
I just dumped a lot.
Hey, yeah, I'll take some of that.
Is this all you eat?
Just meat?
You're a keto guy?
Yeah, keto.
Are you really?
Yeah.
All day, every day?
All day.
How long have you been doing it?
Uh, eight years.
My God.
How did you get past that first month?
Bro.
I was struggling to get past that first.
Oh!
What?
What?
What?
What?
What?
Jesus.
Hell yeah.
Hey, what's, I guess, well, you told me, but Rock was 52-inch chest, obviously, talking
about him.
Is that all he is?
He's bigger now.
That's what he said.
That was a couple years ago.
Come on, Dwayne.
Oh, come on.
No, my suit coat is 54 or 56.
Jesus.
When you walked by at SummerSlam, it was my first time seeing you in human, in person.
In human.
Yeah, human to human.
It was the first time I've ever seen you.
I just said, Jesus Christ, look how vast that thing is you literally like the your body is just naturally built to be as physically imposing as possible i feel like because it's like that
goddamn what's that snake that goes up cobra it's a guy your body is literally built naturally like
a cobra and then you throw on top of it that you have like a 40 inch vertical and you run fast and you're incredibly tough it's just you were literally
you were crafted to be a think a fighter i'm happy you fell into like what you love for a living i
think he right it was pure luck and i owe i owe all like a lot to my high school wrestling coach
and little kids wrestling coach you know uh it takes a village to raise a good child and and and bring things up
and good parenting but um if you can find coaches out there and people that give a shit about you
you know you and you're a good kid and you respond well and you listen and you learn from your
mistakes and i think that's what uh i've been able
to do i've had really good mentors in my life it's called old school but it feels like it just
makes the most common sense go ahead aj brock how satisfying was it for you to uh slam we man
through that table so like that was not staged at all. I flew into town before the Royal Rumble.
Yeah, St. Louis.
And I got a private room, and I come walking through the restaurant at the hotel,
and I'm like, I just scurry through people.
Like I just want to get in.
It's awesome to watch, brother.
Get in and then go hide in my hole and eat my steak.
Leave me alone.
Listen to your music.
Absolutely awesome.
So I'm like, my buddy goes, the jackass crew is out there.
And I'm like, really?
We walked by them.
Yeah, okay.
Then all of a sudden I sent the waiter out, sent a nice bottle of wine to.
Oh, gentlemen.
Hey, nice guy.
Hey, it's good business
good business
hey yo
hey
so then
next thing
next thing I know
Knoxville comes into
the back room
breaks my fucking door down
like actually
yeah broke my door
the door on the
the private room
and I'm like
okay well
so I come walking out
and then I guess in in the midst of this, they were setting themselves on fire out in the restaurant.
Jesus.
I didn't know that at the time.
So I just come.
I'm like, I'm going home.
I'm going to go to bed.
And I'm walking out.
And then Wee Man stands up and, like, peacocks me a little bit.
Wee Man peacocks you?
Yeah, he's like.
And I just picked him up.
I'm like, yeah, right there, I'm going to put you down right there.
So none of it was promo, none of it was stayed, nothing.
And so it just turned out to be really fun and good for business.
Good for business for everybody but the restaurant, maybe.
But the entire thought of Wee Man seeing you and just going, what, dude?
And you go, what the fuck?
My favorite thought of that whole thing is some patron at the bar, okay,
who's just sitting there.
And they don't know sports, these people.
At this particular restaurant, probably not.
They don't know sports.
They don't have any clue.
There's business people.
They look to the right the biggest white they have ever seen yeah walks out from behind they're gonna explain to everyone it was like a viking man
showed up literally out of a movie the biggest man we've ever seen he walks over to this crew
that had been lighting themselves on fire and he picks up one of the smallest whites yeah we've
ever seen throws him through the table and then what You just walked out of there? I'm like, I'm out.
Because I wasn't sure if they were going to call the cops or what.
I just threw cash out.
I'm like, I'll take care of the table.
Stage left.
Peace.
That is amazing.
All right, we've got to get to a break.
There'll be more with Brock Lesnar on the other side of the break.
We're going to eat some of this steak.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, beardedbutchers.com.
I'm not sure we know if there's a, is there a discount going on right now?
Yeah, right now it's promo code Brock at 10% off your whole entire order.
Here we go.
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Thanks, guys.
Hey, no problem at all.
Go to beardedbutchers.com.
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Bucket.
This is a bucket of Brock Lester seasoning.
By the bucket load.
I watched those dudes.
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I saw an episode when Brock popped up because that one had many millions of views compared to some others, but those guys are huge, actually.
Okay, so let's talk about what he just said.
Needle mover.
You have to know it.
Like you coming on the show, you are blessing us with this show.
Yeah. talk about what he just said. Needle mover. You have to know it. Everything, like you coming on the show, you are blessing us with this show.
Hail Mary, full of grace, may the Lord be with you. And also with you.
I thought you were going to continue.
Oh, I could.
Yeah, first hour.
No, but you really are.
I'm a believer.
But you are, are you a believer in knowing that everywhere you go, everything you do is going to be washed? Actually, Roman Reigns is wearing my shirt.
The needle mover.
Yeah, the needle mover.
No, he moves shit to you.
Now, that is something.
Because we asked
Seth freaking Rollins
you know
badass
oh yeah
he's a badass
burn it down
and he's a fucking guy
I mean he's so tough
yeah
crazy
I actually asked him
I'm like hey you still have time
to say nah
I'm not stepping in there
with Brock Lesnar
and he was like what
and I was like wow
this guy's crazy dude nut job but we asked him Mount Rushmore wrestling and he said is it draw
or is it in ring abilities now you have two different groups of people in there when you
think about Mount Rushmore wrestling you're on a lot of people's list that has to be pretty
fucking awesome and who are the people you think you have a lot of respect for in the business you don't have to give them out rushmore but in the business yeah but i i don't
i don't really care or give a shit i'm serious i don't like i don't give a fuck if i'm in the
hall of fame or not i've done what i did um i don't care i don't care if i'm leaving a legacy
behind what i do care about is you know i'm I'm a good person, good dad, you know, and all that stuff.
Like, that's important to me.
Mount Rushmore of wrestling.
I don't think you have to give one, but in your eyes.
Yeah, I don't really.
Yeah, like, there's a lot of guys.
I mean, it's all, like, this is a business about making money, okay?
Unfortunately, like, you wouldn't be doing a podcast if you weren't making the way as the
world turns the NFL,
by the way,
the NFL,
everything,
everything,
you know,
is about just turning dollar bills.
Yo,
by the way,
you do a lot of that.
You always have,
you've been on marquee for like 20 years.
Yeah.
It's been,
I feel fortunate that I can be,
that I'm still be able to, to be on top and, do that i mean it's you know like to be a part of a company that
that vince mcmahon you know helped skyrocket and and and now you know like be a part of this pay
review we're going to saudi arabia live event going to saudi arabia this weekend for you know
the elimination chamberination Chamber and
being a part of that, which is
a first time for me, you know, entering
the Elimination Chamber. Oh, is it? This is your first time?
What? What? What's your strategy?
What's your strategy? Just go free? Kill them all.
Alright.
So, it's
yeah, I'm excited
for that. I mean, it doesn't
scare me, for fuck's sakes.
I fought in the octagon.
Yeah.
What about Seth Rollins, though?
Yeah, true.
He's a threat.
I mean, he's a legitimate threat in this company.
He can go, you know.
But I just feel like this is what I'm meant to do.
What else would I be doing?
I tried my hand at football. I had a cup of coffee with the Vikings. This is what I'm meant to do. What else would I be doing?
I tried my hand at football.
I had a cup of coffee with the Vikings.
Hey, ran like a 4-4, though, in jeans.
In flip-flops.
Yeah, I still ran 4-4 in jeans.
I believe it.
Yeah, so it was, what else am I going to do?
Okay, so you love it, enjoying the hell out of it right now? I'm having a great time.
Because most people, and this is in the football world,
so as you get older, your brain gets better better so you're starting to understand things more on
the game you're just trying to keep your body up with your brain yes i assume in wrestling is the
same exact thing right is that is that how you feel like you're smarter in the business much
more now i think so and i'm more relaxed i've got uh you know 20 years in and i'm having fun with it
i don't give a shit uh you know if i fuck up and you're a good guy right and yeah and I'm having fun with it. I don't give a shit if I fuck up. And you're a good guy right now.
Yeah, and I'm a good guy and I got
fucked over by Paul Heyman.
Asshole, huh? Son of a bitch.
Roman's really good though. I've said a lot of really nice
things about him.
I'm going to enter the chamber
in Saudi Arabia and
I'm going to
win that belt back. Yeah, get that thing back so we can
go title to title at WrestleMania.
That's what I want to do.
And so we've got to go all the way to Riyadh to do that.
Yeah, of course.
It's a long road to WrestleMania.
Yes, sir.
How's your body?
It's good.
I've been with the same trainer for like 17 years now.
And so I got rid of free weights probably 10, 12 years ago.
So I got rid of free weights probably 10, 12 years ago.
Got away from the barbell, the squatting.
I got into a pneumatic.
I'm not going to plug this company.
Wow, you don't like them?
Well, I love their equipment.
But, hey, business is business.
Business is business.
Now, you can phone me at 605-345-4444 where we can talk.
Yeah, that's awesome. Go ahead, AJ.
I think I know the company
you may be speaking about.
They do good stuff, but you mentioned
your body obviously feeling good. How long do you think
you could see yourself potentially wrestling?
As long as them
dollar bills come in. Have you thought about that though because the end of people's career is obviously one that's
uh speculated talked about especially in wrestling that's something that's going to be
talking you look better than ever right now though as like i don't have to do this okay
like i've been really wise and i don't i'm not i'm not i'm doing it because i want to
um and i'm not gloating.
Like, I've been really good with my money.
25 years of success.
Yeah.
On top.
On top.
It hasn't always been that way, though.
I learned from a lot of people.
I was almost bankrupt my first run.
You know, I just signed a big deal with Vince.
I mean, a big deal.
Like, back then, 20 years ago.
We're talking
hey a lot of
a lot of
guaranteed money
and so then I'm like
six months later
I'm like yeah
go screw yourself Vince
he was a little chap
I get it now
you know
made an investment here
you know
so but I had to do that and he understood that i had to leave i had to go out and i wasn't done yet
you know god if i wouldn't have left i wouldn't been uh you know in the ufc and all that stuff
went out made my name i paved my own road you know and so came back and and established this
is what i want this is how i'm gonna This is how I'm going to do it.
And I'm very fortunate that, you know.
You jumped over.
I think your first match back was against Roman.
I believe it was in Saudi, right?
Your first match.
Yeah, right?
Oh, man.
Yeah, you jumped over him.
Anyways, I saw you jump up over him.
And I was, like, very interested.
I'm like, what's Brock going to look like?
What's he going to do?
You look better and are performing better than you ever have.
Do you agree with that sentiment, or am I wrong in thinking that?
Right now?
Yes.
I feel good.
I'm dialing my nutrition in.
Yeah, you get older, you get wiser, you get smarter.
Yeah, and as long as your body can – like, I feel great.
I'll be 45 in July.
Oh, man.
You know?
You know? I've never seen more of those. Chicago runway. Yeah. You know? feel great i'll be 45 in july oh you know um you know chicago runway uh you're awesome go ahead ty brock how big of a like change in like the mindset is it if you're
going into you know headline like a ufc event as opposed to like headlining wrestlemania or is
there not any different mindset i'm going i don't i've always approached it uh very professionally and and very you know i still get butterflies you know i still
enjoy it i i enjoy the shit out of it and um it's it's it's a different uh game you know entering
the octagon and i'm telling you you gotta be like you to be half bat shit crazy yeah i'm not half by that right
you do like you when that don't like when you could go through i i i built or i had ordered
an octagon so i could didn't have the first like jitters of getting in an octagon i'm like dana i
want an octagon i'm like uh you know boom ship an octagon back. So I can fight in it
and practice in it.
But then you're in front
of 20,000 people
and then they shut the door
and it's like,
okay.
Here we go.
It's right here.
This is the century
you were supposed to be born in.
And I think that's why
everybody enjoyed
watching you go over there.
And you did so damn well.
Now when you make
the transition back to
wwe is there any hesitancy do you feel better about brock lesnar in wwe after you i'm having
a good time now and i'm really uh i want to just portray and and just have a really good time and
show a different side which i'm doing right now and the cowboy yeah you've been on the show but
you get you get a free cowboy hat
from Saskatchewan
when you buy
a 10,000 acres.
Okay.
So I'm like,
this is,
thanks to,
you know,
thanks Saskatchewan.
Thank you.
No,
but.
Canada,
our home
and native land
True patriot
We should get a hat too, maybe.
That'd be okay.
But I've been, I'm not, I mean, I'm just,
I like, I like cowboys.
I like,
Hey, when that music hits,
you still get a little, you said you'd get nervous. Hey, when that music hits, you said you get nervous.
Hey, so every time you're expecting what?
You don't know what to expect or you know that people are going to go batshit crazy whenever it pops up?
Yeah, I love it.
There's nothing else like it.
I mean, it is a good, it's addictive.
But I still, that part to me, I can still go out there.
I just want to put on a good show.
And that was the same thing in the UFC.
I want to go out there and perform and do some ass kicking.
Do you watch any of the younger wrestlers or fighters that you like?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't watch a lot of fighting anymore because it's just there's so many guys.
Stories.
Yes.
It's hard to follow i agree
if i wish dana could figure out how to book things different and like come on man let's start getting
behind some of these guys and maybe protect somebody for a while so that they can become
a household name and you can cha-ching them i think sugar sean might be the one of those guys
but i don't you know but He's in the business of putting on
super fights every week.
It's tough
to do. It's tough to stay on top.
How about wrestling? Any of the young people
when you came back, were you looking at the
rosters? Did you know who was out there?
I've got to witness this.
I did it as well as soon as upon seeing him.
Very nice to meet you, Mr. Lesnar.
Literally, very nice to meet you, Mr. Lesnar. Literally, very nice to meet you, Mr. Lesnar.
But everybody in the back, because you've been around 20 years,
because you are Brock Lesnar, because you take time there,
everybody comes up and shakes your hand.
Is that awkward for you?
You don't mind it?
Because I assume that there was other guys that did that for a long,
long time while you were at work.
It's just kind of weird how the whole revolutionary door, you know,
because when I first came up, it was like, you know,
the Undertaker and Steve and, you know, I could go on and on with the guys, but like,
so now I'm the old bastard walking down the hall.
But, and I don't, you know, I'm looking at these young kids and I, I don't know.
Somebody needs to step up and... Everybody says that what does that mean you think that means you get over figure out how to fucking like put asses in
seats yeah not worry about your next high spot like figure out how the hell that i can be different
like how can I make money?
Yes.
That's it.
That's the business, by the way. That's the business.
And a lot of old, I don't want to say old wrestlers,
but that's all the old heads of wrestling who went through all that.
They say the same exact thing,
but it seems to be a real generational thing happening.
They think, the young generation thinks it's that they,
if they go out and do a certain move and do it over and over, you know,
and that's not the business.
There's a good guy and a it over and over and you know and that's not the business there's there's
and there's a good guy and a bad guy you know like holy field and tyson like you know mega
heavyweights and you know i don't like that guy and i i like him pitting people against each other
storylines and you know there's something you know it's that's what was fun about me coming back.
This time was the storyline with Roman Reigns and being with Paul Heyman for 15 years.
And now Paul's with Roman.
And, hey, he fucked you over, too.
Big time.
What's that all about?
You knew him a long time.
Long time.
That fucking guy.
He ain't never been on the farm, that fucking guy.
Not once.
Look, he's flexing his muscles right now.
Karma is a bitch.
But, yeah, the story with you and Roman is perfect because you are a good guy.
Cowboy Brock.
We're getting to learn actual Brock, I think.
Yeah, that's who I really am.
I mean, it's, I'm just, yeah, I've been wearing cowboy hats for a long time.
And I just enjoy wearing them.
Hey, the top pony gets a lot time, and I just enjoy wearing them.
The top pony gets a lot of talk on you.
Oh, yeah.
You love it.
Dude, that was all just a joke for me.
My kids were cutting my hair, and they're like, I bet you won't wear a ponytail.
I'm like, I bet you I will.
Well, I think the first picture of it was when you were with the Bearded Butcher.
Yeah. You hit the internet, and you were holding up a cow, I think.
I think you were actually holding a cow like this, you had a top hat on and it was like you were
a three two other bearded men it was like who the where is brock lesnar right now i was at the
bearded butchers yeah and that is uh yeah i think you're the whole comeback has been a smashing
success uh go ahead frank brock uh you mentioned all those guys that came before you in the locker
room is there anyone you didn't get a chance to get into the ring with that you would have really liked to?
You know, I got to wrestle Hogan.
I got to wrestle, you know, Dwayne, The Rock.
Dewey.
The Undertaker.
Ric Flair.
But I didn't get to wrestle Steve.
And I was thinking about this actually today,
because you and I had dinner and talking about Steve and whatnot
and doing the what's.
Brock having a Stone Cold Steve Austin impression was, I mean,
that was plus 10,000.
I had no idea.
We're sitting down, having a couple beers, a little meat or whatever.
We're sitting there.
Why?
And all of a sudden, I was like, I actually said, you want another beer?
Why?
And then he said, can I get a hell yeah?
Why?
I was like, oh, my God.
And then he said, you what?
Why?
I mean, it was.
We had some good times.
Absolutely.
But.
Steve, you never rested.
Steve, yeah.
I didn't.
And Steve, we could.
I understand from business aspects at the time, Steve left and, you know, didn't want to work with me.
And it was probably the right decision for him at the time, you know.
I don't hold a grudge against it at all.
Well, business.
Business is business.
I got that right away.
I had a lot of good mentors, you know, coming up in the business.
Anybody ever...
At what age did you
stop fighting people in public?
At what age did I stop
fighting people in public?
Amateur fighting.
Street fighting.
Still in college.
Because Wee Man's the first person to peacock
to Brock Lesnar in two decades.
Two decades.
He tried you to do decades. He tried you, dude.
He tried you.
I'd have to get way down.
Way down.
Way, way down there.
Go ahead, AJ.
Hey, what all are you hunting up there on those 10,000 plus acres?
Oh, man, I got moose, elk, mule deer, white tail,
black bear,
Austin 316.
Can I get a hell yeah?
How about a couple bears?
How about you?
And you?
Black bear.
I got weasels.
Mink. Coyotes. bear yeah black bear up there i got weasels what mink what coyotes what
you love that though like that is uh you growing up on the farm i i assume you have a natural
affinity for being an outdoorsman the fact that you're still doing it after experiencing all the
different life i think is a true testament to who the fuck you are which is just
literally the alpha male yeah our species. Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, so if you stopped fighting publicly in college,
at what point in your life did you know, like, I'm unbelievable at fighting?
Like, when you were in elementary school, did you beat the hell out of a teacher?
No, like, we got to, like, go out and play.
I can't even say the word.
You know, smear the.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I don't even know what they call it. Kill the man with the ball. Yeah, kill the carrier yeah yeah yeah yeah so what do they i don't even want to call it
yeah kill the carrier kill it kill the back back in the 80s it was yeah yeah yeah yeah
way different but they used to let us just go yeah yeah they they want like because they don't
bring it in the classroom don't be bringing that in the classroom it's in south dakota yeah just go ahead
and just give a shit kicking out there and mud puddles and i'll bring you make sure you bring
another pair of pants to school yeah that's it it's worked out right yeah i mean i feel like
you said you still get nervous that moment royal rumble st louis it's like the thousandth main
event or a big big thing you've ever been a part of nothing to you like it's no worries because it seems like you would naturally not be a person that likes to perform in front of people
but then you get out there and you're fucking un like unmissable you are the feature and i have
total i have a total crash after being in front of audiences like i go hibernate in Saskatchewan, and, like, my downer is, like,
the anxiety from all that is, like, takes me, like, a few days to recover.
How long has that been happening?
Forever?
Forever, yeah.
It's been that way.
Like, I used to have big wrestling matches in high school,
and then, like, to come down from big arenas, and it's like, oh,
I get nervous around peep crowds, and I'm awkward as fuck no you're very comfortable you're very good in here and you're very good in the ring like
you're yeah but i'm putting on a show like i mean i have like i gotta go through all this thing and
that's just who i am and and and i i like to go and just get away from the people and and it's
not that i dislike people i mean and it's not been that dislike people. I mean, and it's not been that way,
but some people,
yeah,
I don't like,
but I just like to be left the fuck alone.
And,
and like,
cause I'm like,
if I'm in front of an audience,
then it just exhausts me.
And so I got to go and like recharge up.
Have you ever had a fan come out in the middle?
Cause what was that?
Seth,
Seth,
your opponent elimination chamber coming up,
Seth freaking Rollins, you know?
He was walking out of Raw, and somebody came sprinting behind the barrier and tried to spear him.
I fucking dare somebody.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I dare the next fool.
Yeah.
Yeah, get him.
What?
Slam Conor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
Hey, don't fuck my hat up, all right?
I think you did, but I'll take it back.
What?
What?
As we're wrapping up here, Monday Night Raw is tonight.
Seems like you're in pretty good physical condition.
We're in Indianapolis.
You broke our table and our microphone.
That'll be, these scars of this studio will remain because.
Yeah, but you're moving out of here. We can
wreck shit. Not yet!
Oh, hell yeah.
That's a just fucking demolition.
The week before we do, Brock's coming out and doing
demos. Hey, you need to have
2.0 of the Brock Lesnar seasoning
from beardedbutchers.com
the week we're moving into the new
place. So you could come in here.
The igloo. Yeah, the igloo. It's cool come in here. The igloo. Yeah, the igloo.
It's cool.
Hell yeah.
Get it? The igloo.
It's cool.
Yes.
Because it's cold.
Chill.
The igloo.
Hey, you've been too gracious with your time today.
Thanks a lot.
And too awesome with your conversation.
Yeah, unbelievable.
You're fucking awesome, dude.
Thanks, guys.
I appreciate you all.
Keep up the good work.
I appreciate it.
What do you think about AJ Hawk?
He's just classical.
Hey, AJ.
Thanks, man. Hey, thank you, classical. Hey, AJ. Thanks, man.
Hey, thank you, Brock. You were awesome.
Thanks, man. You know AJ Hawk?
He's the only guy that's got a longer forehead than me.
Hey, do you see that, Josh? I got a head
like a Holstein bull.
That's what AJ, by the way,
AJ has a massive Noggin as well
Home plate
And the first time
I met you
I was like
Yo I met Brock Lesnar
And he was like
That guy's head
That guy's
Cause his head as well
You lug heads
Really enjoy that type of
Yeah
Throwing it around
A little bit
But
First thing you said
About Cam Hayward
Yeah
Wow
Big fucking head
Dude's got a massive
Crane
Yeah You know These hats Are hard to come by Big head. Wow. Big fucking head. Dude's got a massive cranium.
These hats are hard to come by.
They don't make it through.
You can get a horse or you can get a mule, but it's hard to find a Holstein bull head.
I agree.
We appreciate you coming by.
You're the best.
Have a good show tonight.
Everybody go to beardedbutchers.com.
Use promo code Brock to get 10% off your entire order.
The seasoning is delightful.
Yeah.
It's so good.
You can put it on everything.
We're putting it on meat, obviously, because steaks are very prevalent here.
But you can literally put it on everything.
It makes everything good. And tune in to me kicking ass in the Elimination Chamber on Peacock.
Goddamn right.
On the coaches.
Yeah.
Hell yeah. What? What? Ass kicking. What? Saudiock. Goddamn right. On the coaches. Yeah. Hell yeah.
What?
What?
Ass kicking.
What?
Saudi Arabia.
What?
Riyadh.
What?
Taking a jet plane.
What?
All the way there.
What?
All the way back.
What?
On the way back.
What?
WWE Champion.
What?
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah! Hell yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
God, he's destroyed our shit.
We're never going to get that down.
They're in the rafters forever. Foxy, can you please hang those headphones in the rafters?
Yeah.
Brock Lesnar tossed.
I don't know if you're going to be able to see this
it was unbelievable
asbestos falling on my head
can you see it
I don't even know
if you can see it
yeah down
camera started shaking
when he slammed the door too
right there
is that them
yeah
yeah
hey thanks Brock
thank you Brock
jeez
Wee Man got
jeez
Wee Man got better
than our student
yeah how about how about him walking out and Wee Man got better than our student.
How about him walking out and Wee Man peacocking on him and him just going and picking him up and going,
well, yeah, I'm going to put you right here.
He's throwing the money down afterwards.
That's the show, man.
Overreaction Monday.
Two hours of Super Bowl talk.
One hour of getting to know one of the greatest athletes
that ever exists, Brock Lesnar.
He never does that, so I appreciate you.
That's awesome.
Thank you, Brock.
Go to beardedbutchers.com
and get yourself a bucket of the seasoning.
Hell yeah. I'm telling you, you're going to need it.
We powered through a couple bottles in the office.
It does taste delicious.
Especially if you're trying to get a little healthy on the keto diet.
This helps out with everything. They got a five-gallon option
like the Dole Sunflower Seeds
that Coach will always sit on, put a bucket of baseballs
in. It would be nice to be able to do that with the seasoning.
That's your need.
Hour 3 is wrapping up here.
We can't thank you enough.
Big thanks to Brock.
Thanks to you, AJ, for that big old brain of yours.
Chris Mad Dog Roos says next.
Cheers.
Nailed it.
No after hours, Foxy.
No, yeah, sorry.
What happened?
Oh, you had to move the camera back.
Yeah.
How about that, dude?
How about everything that just happened?
He was awesome.
He had fun.
You could tell.
Connor and Ty are covered in dust.
Really?
I told you there's asbestos everywhere, dude.
I don't even notice.
I'm still riding home.
Table got thrown.
Mic got thrown.
Headphones are in rafters.
I mean, that's Brock Lesnar interview, baby.
The table was 30 seconds into it.
Bro, he took both hands and put it back.
Smashed.
That was unreal.
Listen, finally, a good businessman sponsored the tank top.
Hell yeah.
Smart.
It's been sitting here for two years.
I know.
Who is that?
That's Bearded Butchers, dude.
BeardedButchers.com.
Brock Lesnar seizing, bro.
Have a fucking...
Wake up, AJ.
I have a clue.
I have some of their...
I probably knew about these guys way before you guys. I have some of their... I probably knew about these guys
way before you guys.
I have some of these.
I know about it.
I never knew about the...
I'm warning you
of the Brock Lesnar blend
right now.
We'll get some of that.
We'll get that.
I think they should have
a picture of Brock on here,
but this guy's sweet, too.
That'd make more sense.
All right.
We're going to get out of here.
All right?
And we can't thank
everybody enough.
What a...
That was awesome.
Yeah, we've got to do a giveaway, though, with Cash App.
I mean, it's the first day they're here.
We've got to do it.
And we're off for a week.
I mean, they did say we could give away whatever we wanted to.
What's that?
Yeah, so we'll go.
Okay.
All right.
I think the right move would be use the hashtag PMS Cash App Lesnar.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I don't know if that's good for business for them because then I don't want anybody.
That would be bad business for Lesnar.
So we shouldn't do that.
Just use hashtag PMS Cash App and either take a picture of your favorite event that has happened in this show this season.
So you can screenshot that.
Or what happened in the NFL season.
We will each pick one
and we'll give $10,000 to
each person, so it should be, what, like $130,000
we'll give away? There you go.
Hashtag PMS Cash App
End of Season Wrap Up.
Hashtag PMS
C-A-S-H-A-P-P
E-N-D-O-F
S-E-A-S-N W-R-A-P-P-E-N-D-O-F-S-E-A-S-N-W-R-A-P-U-P.
End of season wrap up.
What you need to do is use the hashtag right there.
Hashtag PMS Cash App.
End of season wrap up.
At Cash App.
And then also your cash tag in the post.
This will make everything much easier. Take a picture of your favorite moment from this year on your cash tag in the post. This will make everything much easier.
Take a picture of your favorite moment from this year on this show
or in the NFL.
Each member of the entire office will pick one, give away $10,000.
So it's like $130,000, $140,000.
We'll be off until next Tuesday.
We love you all so much.
AJ, anything to say as we wrap up this 2021 season
to all the beautiful people?
Yeah, I mean, hey, awesome year, awesome season.
I had a ton of fun, for real.
So thank you.
Toxic Table, I appreciate you.
Fine, gentlemen.
Anything to say to the beautiful people as we get away for about a week?
Appreciate you too, Pat.
Yeah, what a season.
Go, Pat, go.
Rodgers is coming back to the Packers.
Whoa!
There you go.
Unbelievable season.
Patriots will be in the AFC Championship at least.
And first time, I think, in the history of YouTube and this show,
you guys made it through the entire season doing a segment every week.
That was awesome.
So hats off to you and AJ, Pat.
That's a first for us.
First ever.
We ended both right.
That's right.
Started great.
Ended great.
I won 3-0 in the end of the ATS.
Yeah, and AJ was almost there.
He talked me into taking the Bengals, actually.
Tone Diggs, obviously Hammered Down is in 15 minutes,
the last one before we go on a break.
You've been incredible on this show this year.
Hammered Down's been awesome.
Anything to say to the fans?
Thank you, Pat.
All I can say is thank you, fans.
Love you, fans.
You're the best.
What?
Foxy, we'll just keep going around the horn.
Incredible season this year out of you, bud.
I appreciate you so much. Anything to say to the beautiful people
as we go off? Just appreciate you all.
Thank you, Foxy.
Appreciate you, Foxy.
Zito, buddy, I appreciate you so much, man.
Spinning so many plates at so many different times.
That Zito production at Radio Row was absolutely
glorious. Anything to say to the people?
I appreciate the hell out of you. Yeah, amazing season.
Make sure to go to beardedbutchers.com and get the greatest season ever.
Love you guys. Always working.
Promo code Brock.
10% off every day. 10% off.
What? Frank Moraldo, hell of a
season over there, pal, on the board.
We appreciate you so much. You crushed it this year, dude.
Thank you, sir. You crushed it as well. Appreciate all
the accommodations and everything you did
to take care of us out there in Cali.
Shout out to everybody out there in the PMI universe.
And it's hockey season, boys.
YouTube.com forward slash that's hockey talk, everyone.
Go Bees.
Bees stink.
Go Bees.
Go Bees.
Stoner's healthy.
You've been awesome this year, man.
Clipping live during the show.
Having access to my Twitter account.
Not a lot of people have that.
I enjoy tweeting for myself. I think it's something that a lot of people have that. I enjoy tweeting for myself. I
think it's something that a lot of people have to do, by
the way. You see people hire social media
managers and it's like, why are you even doing
anything? You might as well not even have an account. It's probably
better for you to do that. So I enjoy
doing my own account. And during
the live show, you clip, you post,
you crush this year. I appreciate the hell out of you,
Gumby. Thank you, Pat. It's been a pleasure
to do. It's been a
good two-year run here I've been,
and I appreciate all you boys.
LA was awesome just hanging out,
besides doing the show. It was great. Well, you're the best,
Gumpy. Can't wait to see what Hammerdown
evolves into in the pod, by the way, back to
four times a week. Can't wait, five.
Five times a week.
Congrats.
Here we go, Pod.
Get ready, listeners.
Hashtag PMS Cash App End of Season Wrap Up.
Screenshot something.
Send it in from the year that was, whether on this show or in the season.
If it matches one of the ones that we have picked, you will then be randomly selected from the group that does that.
And it will be $10,000 each person.
From our friends at Cash App, drop your cash tag and at cash app in there.
They're trying to expedite so we can do these more often because CFO Phil is
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them to do something. This makes it easier. We love you.
See you next Tuesday. Bye. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា so សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា Thank you. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា� Bye.