The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 604 - Ian Rapoport, Jon Rothstein, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: February 25, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the new narratives floating around about how Aaron Rodgers wants to become the highest paid player in the NFL "by a wide margin," how narratives ...get created within the sports media world, Russell Wilson removing everything related to the Seahawks on his Twitter and Instagram, what Troy Aikman going to ESPN means for a bunch of other networks, and more. Joining the show to get us up to date on everything pertaining to Aaron Rodgers, which veteran QB's might go where, how his ski trip is going, and more (24:00-45:58). Later, CBS College Basketball Insider, FanDuel contributor, someone who knows more about college basketball than possibly anybody on the planet, the man who sleeps in May, Jon Rothstein joins the progrum to preview March Madness, who we should be looking to place bets on, when he knew he wanted to talk about nothing other than college basketball, and more (1:03:11-1:29:56). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. It is Feel Good Friday, February 25th, 2022. And this dumbass show shall begin right now. Really catching up after the week off that we had. It is fantastic to be here. Thank you all for watching at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. Big day, big day.
Starting point is 00:00:22 We've got a $58,000 giveaway. That's right. Yesterday we announced we'd have a Feel Good Friday giveaway. We didn't know how to determine the amount of money we'd give away, so we decided that whatever percentage hammer Don went last night is the amount of thousands we'd give away. They won 58%. How about that?
Starting point is 00:00:41 How about that? Shout out to the Canadiens. At Tone Diggs and at Bubba Gumpino and PMI Mitt, you know, came through in a beautiful fashion. 58% not bad. I mean, it's above average, obviously, in the gambling world. 53 is what you need to win. Bingo. So there we go.
Starting point is 00:00:57 5% higher. There we go. We go five points higher than the average. Any shoot would say that. But boy, that could have got ugly. I mean, we made the announcement. We made the decision. We put it out there.
Starting point is 00:01:10 And now their results are determining how happy fans in a giveaway is. Yeah, that's right. And we've been saying for like a year now at this point, hey, this group wins somehow. They do all the things you're not supposed to do to the gambling gods. They get on microphones and they project loud as they can, screaming at the top of their lungs at Radio Row.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Yeah, that's right. With cowboy hats on and such. This is what we're betting on tonight. And they've been winning and winning and winning and winning and winning and winning. And then all of a sudden we do a Feel Good Friday giveaway, depending upon how they do. What if we would only be able to give away like $10,000? Oh, that wouldn't have been
Starting point is 00:01:48 good. Oh my god, I might have had to end the show. Would not have been good. Happy you guys are above the 53% standpoint, but also, would have been sweet to go $80,000. Would have been pricey for the company. I appreciate you guys not doing that. You're welcome. I appreciate you guys looking out for the good of the company there. $58,000 seems right. We're going to
Starting point is 00:02:03 give away $50,000. You're like, you know what? We'll be the heroes. We'll raise it 8,000. That's right. Wow. So we'll announce that giveaway at some point today. We can't thank you enough for being here. The Talks Table is always looking fresh and fantastic.
Starting point is 00:02:16 At Boston Corner, obviously, with a smack. Done! I head there tonight. First time in like three, four weeks. Oh, here we go. Yeah. Where's it at? Hershey, Pennsylvania, dude. Here we go. The home Oh, here we go. Where's it at? Hershey, Pennsylvania, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Here we go. The home of Christian Pulisic. And Hershey. And in general, chocolate. Squirts and stuff. Pretty sweet. Should be a blast. There's going to be a lot of folks there, I think. You know, I don't know how far of a drive that is from Pittsburgh. I think some people are making the trip. I think there's some other stuff. Should be a fun night. Great to be back. Thank you for wearing that
Starting point is 00:02:42 shirt and all. It looks fantastic. But let's talk about the fucking fashion icon. Yeah. Sitting next to you right now ty schmidt obviously in the all denim today rocking the boot nikes uh what is the big occasion the john deere shirt only comes out for big time things what is it today you know i was flipping through the internet last night and i saw a uh a nice nice deer product that I was thinking about maybe buying because I got some work I'm going to have to do in my backyard here. So I was going through looking at gator prices and just kind of reminding myself that nothing runs like a deer.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I opened my closet up this morning. I said, fuck it. Times like these, nothing runs like a deer. Nothing's as reliable as a deer. I got to put the deer jacket on. Ty has to have a side deal with the deer, right? I win. That promo that you just got right there,
Starting point is 00:03:30 he just got a free zero turn probably. Is that where it looks? No, no. I'd love one. I'd love one. Or a gator. That's the end game. That's the end game.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah, I just, you know, when times call for it, when times get tough, this thing kind of just, it somehow peeps out a little bit more. I said, fuck it, give me the deer sweater. I'm going today. You look amazing. Thank you. Normally you wear sweats and dress like a jackass. Sweatshirt.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Normally, yeah. Normally you dress like a 15-year-old going to a high school class or maybe a college kid. You like to be comfortable, and it doesn't matter because that brain and the mouth are so good. You can dress however the hell you want. You've been to some places dressed like a jackass. Oh, yeah. You kidding me? Speaker's balcony.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Wearing sweatpants and sweatshirts. This is coming from a guy that wears tank tops, all right? But I'm just saying, like, I understand that. Whenever I saw you today all dressed up, I'm like, it must be a big day, and thank you for that for this feel-good Friday. You bet. Got to do it sometimes. Shout-out to John Deere, by the way. Shout-out to John Deere. Nothing runs like a deer. be a big day. And thank you for that for this feel-good Friday. You bet. Got to do it sometimes. Shout out to John Deere, buddy.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Shout out to John Deere. Nothing runs like a Deere. Shout out to the boys in the back. It's been a hell of a week. I had Nick Marotta. They had John Hamm on Hockey Talk. Make sure we enjoy that. That's good news.
Starting point is 00:04:36 What a guy. What a guy. Incredible guy. Put me in the column of John Hamm's coolest dude on earth. That's right. He was awesome. Unbelievable. Loves the hockey. Very
Starting point is 00:04:45 knowledgeable. And the Celtics. And the Tide. And the Tide. And the Tide, too, which he would do. Ben Affleck. Yeah, get on it, Ben. Well, Ben's got a lot going on. He does. That's true. J-Lo's ruin is ruining the Tide, too. Yeah. Well, man, I mean, love. I mean, what do you want? Life matters, too.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Aviva Lozito is here, always spinning plates, looking fantastic. Adam Foxy and, you know know one half of the hammered down cowboys gumpy looks probably the coolest i've ever seen him look yeah great look how do you feel gump you feel alive in that this uh this la hat really hit in la i feel like i need to eat a little bit more seeing it sitting on the floor this morning i said you're coming with me today friend hey congrats hat it's feel good friday you're back you're fucking back hey good, friend. Hey, congrats, Hat. It's Feel Good Friday. You're back. You're fucking back. Hey, good for the hat. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:05:26 That's it, Gopi. Congrats, Hat and Gopi. You know, it's a crazy time to be alive. Sure. Yeah. We have war in our pocket. You know, you open your phone and there's literally a war happening
Starting point is 00:05:36 that's happening in real time on your phone. And it feels like, you know, 2022, how does this happen? And I think just like everybody else, I'm rather distraught about everything going on. I think like last night, my wife and I just sat there flipping through all the different political channels. And just like I said
Starting point is 00:05:53 yesterday, I'm looking for one of them to be like, yeah, everything's all right. But still same thing. And then everybody's message is basically like, hey, this is only going to get worse. This is only going to get worse. How long? Who knows? But I want everybody to know, we'll continue to be a dumbass of course as long as you will have us we are lucky to be here a distraction a whatever you need right now though i would like to dive into something that happens in media uh-huh and i would assume it happens in real media i'm just
Starting point is 00:06:20 going to say the sports media world because that's where I live. So yesterday, a person who we are a massive fan of, have to get that out right now. Friend of the program. Big fan. Diana Rossini a couple days ago
Starting point is 00:06:39 reported that league sources are telling her that this decision with the Packers will be soon. That followed up Aaron telling us basically like, hey, my decision will be coming soon. So now her sources around the league are telling her, and then the source himself is telling basically everybody, hey, this is going to wrap up pretty quickly, which is fantastic. So Rich Eisen had Diana Rossini on to hear what else she is hearing from around the league, league sources.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Anonymous league sources. And the league is large. The league is very, very large. A lot of people. Once again, Diana Rossini, very plugged in. So let's assume this is coming from somebody that is notable in the league. Although other people who source league sources could be sourcing a janitor that works in an NFL building because that is somebody that is in the NFL. Now, granted, league sources you'd hope would be a scout or a
Starting point is 00:07:31 coach or somebody of importance. But anytime you put anonymous in front of it, you can't bank on that being the case because it's might and probably not the case. So Diana Rossini went on Rich Eyes yesterday to explain further about what she's hearing from league sources, and this is what she told our friend Rich. Yeah, it would make a lot of sense for him to protect himself to see what the Green Bay Packers are going to be willing to pay him because from the conversations I've had with a lot of people in the league, he wants to be the highest paid player in the NFL by a wide margin.
Starting point is 00:08:08 So we're talking about $50 million a year. And we know the cap situation the Green Bay Packers are in. We know Devontae Adams needs to get paid. So there's a lot on the table. And speaking of tables, there's also multiple teams that are waiting to see what happens here because they are hoping and willing to make a trade for him. That's a large chunk of the pie right there, 50 mil a year.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Okay, so there is the league sources. By the way, the league sources could be from teams that their fan bases might be like, hey, are we thinking about getting Aaron Rodgers? And that source could be from that team to tell Diana Rossini. Not saying Diana Rossini is making it. We have high respect for Diana Rossini. Love Diana. Diana Rossini got us for like two months of like the World Stoppage. Have that.
Starting point is 00:09:01 But you have to think about why would league source, anonymous League source, tell Diana that information? Well, maybe it's a team trying to save their ass and saying, well, 50 million. Our fans wouldn't expect us to pay him 50 million, so there's no reason for them to expect us to go get him. Let's get in front of this now. Maybe that is why they're leaking that potential information. Do they know if that information is true?
Starting point is 00:09:21 Were they told that information from somebody else that was maybe covering their ass? Maybe. That's potentially the case. But we don't know because nobody really has a Packers source with a name on it that says that is true or not true. So then that comment leads to, obviously, because it's Aaron Rodgers, and I know people that watch this show send me tweets that they hate that we talk about Aaron Rodgers as much. It's the back-to-back MVP of the league that we cover.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So, I mean, it's a situation we're going to have to talk about. And we're not the only ones, by the way. All of sports media talks about Aaron Rodgers because Aaron Rodgers, for a long time, was an enigma. We got a chance to chat about him. He has become a thing, and he's a back-to-back fucking MVP. And his future, we don't know about. So this morning, it just became a full-on take-quick about how Aaron Rodgers is now asking for $50 million. There's no alleged that he's asking for $50 million. There's no thought of, hey, you know, like, this might have been bullshit to, not Diana, the source telling Diana, which is something that happens.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So then you start going around the internet, right? Greg Jennings this morning want bananas on first things first. He says, Aaron Rodgers has been a very selfish guy. I go back to personal experiences. His words to me were, don't be that guy. All of a sudden it's about the money. Greg Jennings on reports that Rodgers wants to be the NFL's highest paid player, which by the way, we don't know if that report is real or not. That's just an alleged source, but that leads to all morning talk
Starting point is 00:10:53 about Aaron Rodgers being a selfish guy. Greg Jennings goes on a four minute run that Nick Wright is prodding out of him to tell terrible stories about Aaron Rodgers that maybe make. Listen, Greg and Aaron have their own relationship. I don't know it. I don't know, Greg. They do that. But it becomes a four minute thing about how Aaron is a selfish prick.
Starting point is 00:11:15 He wants his money and he also wants to win. He's been holding him hostage. This is why there's information. Has he ever won out of January, February? This is Greg Jennings saying all these things. And then at the end, Greg Jennings tells a story about how Aaron went up to him one time. Don't be that guy where you get paid and then you try to go get more money, renegotiate your contract because you're doing that. And now he's being that guy. And it's all like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, in the background from Nick Wright and the other hosts and everything like that. And once again, this is all from an anonymous league source. This happens.
Starting point is 00:11:44 That leads to that clip, because it's this is all from an anonymous league source. This happens. That leads to that clip, because it's good internet, being put onto the internet, okay? And if you look at the reaction of that, now there's people quote tweeting this tweet that they put out. Peter Bukowski, who covers the Green Bay Packers. Packers fans love to get mad at Greg Jennings, but he's right about the disconnect between Rodgers wanting $50 million and wanting to keep key guys like Adams.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Okay, so he has big-time following, by the way. 34,000 Packers fans follow him. So that's a lot of fans, obviously, on the Internet. If he wants his $50 million, we don't know if he wants $50 million. Peter Bukowski quote-tweeted Greg Jennings burying Aaron Rodgers from a source that was from around the league yesterday anonymously on Rich Eisen's show. He's not the only one that quote tweets this, obviously.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Nick Wright, the host of the show, quote tweets this to amplify this. And Nick Wright in the middle of the whole thing, can you tell me that personal story about how terrible of a person he is because we have the opportunity to do that right now because there's an anonymous source that said something that we have no idea if it's true or not so that leads ultimately to packers fans and fans in general having an opinion about aaron rogers greg here at pac-man gdi has like 2 000 followers i checked him out i assume he's just a packers fan at pac-man i back greg jennings on this 100 aaron rogers is a prime example of wanting to have your cake and eat it too okay so the
Starting point is 00:13:06 narrative that they wanted to build worked right I don't know Pac-Man probably hasn't liked Aaron at all uh for a long time but whenever you're hearing these terrible things about somebody you can easily see oh I fucking hate this guy with that being said I understand people are going to say that I go to bat for Aaron because he's a friend of mine I do but for a long time narratives like this have just gone unchecked about this dude. And everybody has kind of let the snowball, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, prima donna fucking asshole, arrogant, standoffish prick has become down there. And we try to stop it.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So I, and he doesn't need us to go to bat for him, by the way. No. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars. Right. He's a very successful person. He has business ventures. He does his thing. And, you know, he will poop and puke at the same time make his body feel bad that's right so i just thought you know has anybody just thought about like maybe just asking him
Starting point is 00:13:54 so i text him that's not true yeah so like all of that stuff this morning about ruining him and i don't normally do this by the way i don't i wouldn't normally text a ruining him. And I don't normally do this, by the way. I wouldn't normally text Aaron. I don't think we're that, like, I don't want to interrupt his life. We obviously get along. We're obviously friendly with each other. But, like, every single report I'm not going to do, I send him, hey, man, reports whether you want to be the highest paid player by a wide margin,
Starting point is 00:14:20 whatever, is that the thing that you are currently, like, stumping for? Like, is that what's going on right now? And categorically false is what I was. And it's just insane to think about that the amount of fans that heard Greg Jennings, former teammate, bring up all these. By the way, Greg Jennings and Aaron, they can figure out. I'm not getting in the middle of that. But the entire narrative of it all is already run,
Starting point is 00:14:43 and it's a whole cycle almost on the internet, and it just feeds to the fact that this guy's a fucking asshole. He might be, but I don't know. He talks to us for like an hour every single week during the season. I feel like we've learned a lot about him. A lot of people that are, you know, like four-time MVPs might have a little asshole in them every once in a while, but I don't think the narrative about all this is anywhere near accurate
Starting point is 00:15:03 just strictly because of what I was told from my source, and it just doesn't make any sense to me. This is how it's always been, though, with him, right? Yeah, pretty much. I mean, divisive, obviously, and then you expect, especially now with all the stuff that's happened and the will-they-won't-they, it's been a couple off-seasons now, you know exactly what you're doing when this comes up.
Starting point is 00:15:22 The fan base, I don't want to say it's divided because it's not. I think much more people want him back than not. But, like, you will see after this, like, a lot more people saying, like, you know what, they're right. He is an asshole. Greg Jennings is, and whatever. Can't afford him.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yeah, exactly. And, by the way, that league source was probably telling Diana that from another team that was probably being, their fan base was wondering if they were going to, well, it just gives you an easy, I can't pay somebody. You want to pay a quarterback $50 million? I don't care well it just gives you an easy i can't pay somebody you want to pay a quarterback 50 million dollars i don't care who the fucking quarterback is you can't pay him 50 million dollars like that's an easy thing to spin and it almost like that thing is just gone yeah before it even gets talked about because they just took it as you know truth 100 and obviously when you see greg jennings going on
Starting point is 00:16:01 there like i think it's almost like take it with a grain of salt because they knew that this is what he was going to do. Like, this is exactly in terms of, you know, to your point about the media, like building a narrative, like you don't see James.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I'm granted. He works for NFL network, but like James Jones, a guy who has been on Aaron's side and was a teammate of his and has never had a bad thing to say. Like, they're not asking him about this. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:22 AJ. Yeah. He'll get asked today. Exactly. So it just by us, AJ, we're going gonna ask by us today about this but that was it was very interesting to me because i'm like oh this is this is how they do it like it was like right in front of our face almost because i got a lot of people tweeting me about uh you know how's your little asshole friend blah blah blah any by the way maybe he's lying to us every single tuesday maybe he's
Starting point is 00:16:43 lying to us in the whole thing or maybe the anonymous source was saying it just to cover their own ass what's up tom well here's the best slash worst part the people who liked what jennings was saying will then hear you say that you texted aaron rogers and aaron rogers said that's not true at all but they'll they'll come up with something and say that he's either lying to you or why would he tell you the truth or whatever like that. It's whatever their narrative is. Well, they're painting it as like that's the only reason why he did any of this is because he wanted the most money. It's like I don't think that has been the case at all.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Unless he is an incredible, like just an absolutely – he might get $50 million. I'm not saying he's not going to get $50 million. But the – or whatever the hell he's going to get. I mean, if you do actual finances for how much he's probably worth at Green Bay Packers with jerseys sold and marketing and everything like that, and we don't have to get into that entire game, especially because you're in a salary cap league
Starting point is 00:17:38 in which you've got to build a team. So that is an asinine thing to do. But he might get – I have no idea what he's going to actually get. He might get that. That might be what his people are looking for. He'd be worth it, obviously, whenever you think about that. But to act as if this is what he's been. Hey, this is what he's been.
Starting point is 00:17:53 This is what he wants. This is what he wants, man. He wants to be the highest paid player by a wide margin. That's it. I don't think that is what he's only looking for. Obviously, business has to happen. But I don't think that's his main narrative, just strictly because I asked. And he said no. So I don't think that is what he's only looking for. Obviously, business has to happen, but I don't think that's his main narrative, just strictly because I asked, and he said no.
Starting point is 00:18:09 So I don't know. He might have lied to me, though. What the fuck do I know? There's no way. I mean, Ty said this from the beginning, though. He's a polarizing figure. You're either going to hate him or you're going to like him. And obviously, at this point,
Starting point is 00:18:19 the people who hear this from Greg Jennings and Diana Rossini, it's just more so of a back to their thoughts. Once again, not from Rossini. Not from Rossini. Rossini's source. Rossini's source, which also is a massive problem that if you hear league source, you can take that as gospel. It's like Wikipedia on a paper.
Starting point is 00:18:38 If you're turning it in, that's a source. You can't do that. And you've talked about this. There shouldn't be anonymous sources in the NFLfl like put your stamp on it or something listen i get attacked by the actual media people whenever uh i say that because protection you don't get it of course you don't understand uh you know people having to have jobs and relationships and networking while still wanting to make the world a better place that's what i get told every time because i've been asked numerous times to go,
Starting point is 00:19:05 you know, Hey, were you anonymous off the record? Blah, blah, blah. Will you take this anonymous quiz or whatever? And I've always just been too big of an idiot or too much pride.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I'm like, no, everything I vote on and everything I talk about, uh, I would like that people to know it's me. Yeah. I'd like people to know, Hey,
Starting point is 00:19:21 Pat McAfee did that, said that because they either hate it or love it. I think it's going to be good probably. So I'd like credit for it. But also like people to know, hey, Pat McAfee said that. Because they either hate it or love it. I think it's going to be good, probably, so I'd like credit for it. But also, if they hate it, I think they should at least know where it's coming from. But in the real world, anonymous sources, obviously much more needed, I think, right? Because actual, I think we're all realizing, you know, the fairytale land that we hope. Yeah, life and death. Yeah, we hope, like, fairytale happens.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And I think we have to remember this. We that this world this fairy tale world happens in which everybody gets everything they deserve everybody gets every opportunity they deserve everybody's happy everybody loves everybody uh everybody is uh makes no mistakes everybody like we all want this world but i think right, more so than ever, we are getting smacked right in the mouth that the real world is not necessarily this world that we all think we're living in already. Because a lot of people get real mad
Starting point is 00:20:18 whenever something happens because they're passionate about everything like that. And it's like, yeah, love the passion, but also know this is probably going to happen a little bit before we get to this euphoric world that we're hoping to live in right now i think everybody is kind of realizing that oh shit life like this is a real yeah yeah like world world is a real thing like yeah there's people that you know might not say bad things about people, but also just fucking get in a tank and run over a car. People that look exactly like them.
Starting point is 00:20:49 2022, people look exactly like them. People that they probably could have been related to, just walking in, just sending missiles on. That's happening in real life right now. That's why right now we need something that we can believe in. Right now, that one thing is the ghost. What's his confirmed wins? I think the ghost is up to 78 splashdowns at this point.
Starting point is 00:21:11 The ghost of Kiev is who you were talking about. Yeah, the ghost. Was introduced to the internet last night. Remember, war in your pocket. This is going to be an interesting time that we will talk about. Forever. First time ever you just pull out your phone open it up nuts and the first thing you see is actual war not a documentary of the old war not world war whatever put into color
Starting point is 00:21:30 which they have done to make it more realistic and everything like that it's actual real world this is happening right now holy hell big things happen the ghost of keith was introduced to the world last night had six confirmed yesterday six Yesterday, yeah. Six on one. Dog fight wins. Yeah. And then there was a video today that came out of him getting another splashdown. We don't know if it was him, but we do assume it is him.
Starting point is 00:21:52 With his tactics, based on what we've seen, that was definitely him. He is looking, listen, the ghost of Keefe is looking to put together the first undefeated season in the history of dog fight wars. Yeah. You would just assume, and I think that's why Top Gun and everything was so looked upon as awesome and those fighter pilots looked at as badasses because you just assume,
Starting point is 00:22:13 oh, a lot of you aren't going to make it because you're dealing with aviation, you're dealing with tech, you're dealing with missiles, and then you're dealing with everything else that's going on at what? Like 500 miles an hour 600 miles yeah and it's just but it's a massive part of everything you know it old wars looking into it but this goes to cave i guess this guy's a throwback yeah just a fucking absolute stud in the sky dude but it's he he feeds on destroying enemy aircraft he doesn't even have to refuel. We were talking about it earlier.
Starting point is 00:22:46 He just flies right through the jet path of one of his splash dons, and he just fuels up that way. Oh, he takes the air. Scoops up the fuel. It's like the video game where you used to run through bubbles. Yeah, exactly. That's what the ghost of Kiev does. That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Man, it's crazy. I hope everybody tees and pees everybody. Yeah, tees and pees. Let's get to a break. Ian Rapport will join us on the other side. I mean, on this feel-good Friday. Here we are, Ian. I'll tell you what, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Oh, yeah. If you think you're having a bad day, just think about it again. That's, yeah. Legitimate. That traffic out of town tall where i guess they're reporting now multiple places are reporting that the women and children of ukraine are allowed to leave but any men from 18 to 60 or whatever it is oh yeah have to stay and fight i think they said they handed out like 120 000 assault weapons to uh citizens in Kiev the other night.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And then there was a report that they were urging their citizens to make Molotov cocktails and throw them. It's only going to continue. All right, let's go. I hope everybody survives. Cheese and peas, everybody. Joining us now is a senior NFL insider for NFL Network and NFL.com. Fresh off the bunny hill with his family. Ladies and gentlemen, I guess he is still alive.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Congratulations. The host of the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and Friends, us being friends, him being Rap Sheet. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Yay! Bro, you look so cool, dude. Oh, no. No internet out there, apparently.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Oh, you got me? Hold on. You're up in the lodge, dude. This guy out there, apparently. Oh, you got me? Hold on. You're up in a lodge, dude. This guy's up in a lodge. We've just been shredding, pal, dude. Yeah. It snowed like 10 inches last night. It's like little mountains all over the hill.
Starting point is 00:24:39 It's treacherous out there. I'm somehow making it. I would not say I'm improving, but I haven't fallen and I'm still alive. Quads are burning a lot. That's not something I was expecting. Oh, good. I need to making it. I would not say I'm improving, but I haven't fallen and I'm still alive. Quads are burning a lot. That's not something I was expecting. I need to get a better quad situation going on. But otherwise, pretty good. Well, skiing could be your quad situation, by the way. That could be your workout to get you into it. We saw a picture of you
Starting point is 00:24:56 from earlier. Obviously, look at this dude. Oh, my God. You look so cool. Great swag. You look so cool, dude. Oh, this guy stinks. He's so You look so cool, dude. This guy stinks. He's so frozen. Hang up on him. Hang up on him.
Starting point is 00:25:08 We got to call you back. Ian, we got to call you back. Yeah, there's a massive storm in the northeast right now. He said 10 inches. Treacherous. He said there's little mountains on the. Little muggles. Oh, so that's what.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And that's fresh power, though. Exactly. A lot of fresh power. Another foot today. Really? Oh, yeah. He's going to be stuck up there in Vermont. Oh, yeah. Best you could imagine, though.
Starting point is 00:25:27 That's some good conditions for old rap sheet. Oh, that's where you want to be. Oh, yeah. When the snow's coming down, that's the good power. Yeah, and every single run is fresh power. And when you fall, it's not that bad because it's fresh power. Oh, normally ice you could potentially. Back joining us from a ski lodge in Vermont, Ian Rapoport.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Hey, Ian Rapoport Report now I think we're good I think so too, you look unbelievable, you look fantastic we saw that photo of you on the slopes we thought it was Sean White we had no idea who it was, you look so cool dude I mean that's you know you spend, you go on these different trails, you go on a couple different mountains
Starting point is 00:26:03 and my kids are in ski school. And so he always tried to spot your kids on the mountain wave high, and then they get really embarrassed and they try not to wave to in front of their friends. But everyone's so bundled up, you literally can't tell who anyone is. I took a very nice picture of my two sons before we went out. Could be any two kids. I think similar to what we dressed in, but like, could be any,
Starting point is 00:26:24 you got to dress them up like whenever you fly. You get, like, a purple suitcase or, like, an orange suitcase. When it comes through the baggage claim, you can kind of notice. You've got to dress your kids up. That's what you've got to do. I think you've got to make them brighter on the slopes. I mean, we thought we did. We gave one a neon yellow jacket and another a neon green jacket,
Starting point is 00:26:44 and every kid on this stupid mountain is wearing yellow and green, and they all look identical. Oh, that's fantastic. I'm happy you're having a good time. Sorry for interrupting your ski break. There's a lot of things happening around the NFL, Ian, and we'll get right to the one where you have all the sources. And immediately upon me saying that, Seahawks Twitter just got really pissed off.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Every time you talk about Russell Wilson, the world explodes in Seattle. What does this dude know? This guy's a dumbass. He doesn't know anybody. He's not in there. Russ took Seahawks off of all of his Twitter accounts. Changed his photo. He wants to love like Jesus.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Does he want to love like Jesus? The Seattle Seahawks for the future, Ian? What are you hearing here? Does this mean anything? I wonder if he saw Kyler Murray do it and get all like the, you know, you got me? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Jesus. Sorry. I paid for the premium internet. I paid $4.95. Oh. They got you, dude. Yeah, it's like the insurance internet I paid $4.95 It's a scam They got you dude It's insurance but a blackjack dude
Starting point is 00:27:49 It's all a lie Yeah I think it probably is Alright you got me now though right Yeah you sound amazing I think we just bumped back into premium Oh yeah what I think you're probably right I wonder if Russell Wilson kind of saw what Happened to Kyler Murray Saw the newssell wilson kind of saw what happened to kyler murray
Starting point is 00:28:05 saw the news cycle saw everyone kind of wondering everyone was debating and then if you're another team let's say you're a team who may want a quarterback and there's a lot of them this year you see russell wilson take everything off instagram you're like okay maybe there's something then you start calling like it is a way to trigger some sort of action. Like we've seen countless times stuff start in the media, rumors start and then teams start calling because they wonder if there's something there. So like, I don't know what Russ's goal was, but I would imagine this ends up driving the conversation, but I would go back to kind of where I always am with him in Seattle until
Starting point is 00:28:43 Seattle has a better option for them to compete next year. I don't see them trading them. Like I just, I don't know who their quarterback is going to be if they trade Russell Wilson. I don't know how that becomes an upgrade. And we have to acknowledge that. I think that has to be acknowledged through all of this because the teams are ultimately in control of all these decisions, basically, which leads me to this yeah diana rossini who we love i can't can't say this enough love diana rossini she went on rich eisen yesterday and she reported that aaron rogers uh per league sources aaron rogers is looking to be the highest paid nfl player by a wide margin then the number 50 million a year got paid out he might get paid that i'm not 100 sure but that built a narrative
Starting point is 00:29:25 that that's all aaron is looking for is to be the highest paid player and all that which is categorically false like yeah i literally i i don't ever do this because he's like somebody i you know we don't really like we're on good relations but it's not like aj and him where i can just like text him out of nowhere i'm like is this true he's like no it's not true whenever things like this happen and you just just said the player removes the shit from their social media, it garners a conversation. Those league sources, when they're telling an insider like you, like Rossini, like any of the others that are in the game, you have to acknowledge that that might be that person covering their own ass, right? Because if Aaron's worth 50 million, then a team that their fans
Starting point is 00:30:03 might be looking for Aaron to potentially play there can justify, oh, we can't afford Aaron. Doesn't that happen? And do you notice that that's happening live in real time or no? First of all, as far as the Rodgers thing, I think if he ends up back at the Packers, I do think he gets paid. And this is something I talked about when it was the day of the Super Bowl. The contract will make him the highest paid player in the NFL. Like I don't, as he should be, and I don't even think that's a question,
Starting point is 00:30:29 and it's definitely something the Packers are more than willing to do. I don't know if it'll get to 50, but it'll get very high. He could have taken the money last year. Remember last year he took no new dollars, right? Like he got a year cut off his deal, but there was no new money. I do not believe from everyone i've spoken to it that it is about the money for aaron rogers he's going to get more money but i mean i don't think it's about the money he's going to get paid though because it's
Starting point is 00:30:57 business like business you have to get paid like this is um it's like he can't do it for free has to get paid also there's other quarterbacks but the narrative now was painted uh this is all this guy wants and it's like you it i don't think that's true but is that when you get inside information do you think it's ever them covering their ass do you ever have to how do you figure like diana's very good at what she does so i'm not saying anybody lied to her but when you get this information do you have to dig into all that shit or no? Yeah, 100%. And I think the main thing is, like, I never trip and fall and end up with a scoop. Like, it almost never happens by accident, right?
Starting point is 00:31:33 So if someone's going to give you information, they're going to give it to you for a reason. Now, sometimes it's like, hey, I'd like you to be accurate, so we're just going to give you this so it's accurate. That definitely happens sometimes. Or, like, people are like, hey, there's been a lot of rumors. I'm going to tell you what's going on so it'll be out there properly. That happens. Sometimes it happens, though, where it's other teams, other sources, and they would like a situation to be portrayed like this.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And so they tell you, knowing that if they tell you, you're going to put it out there and you're going to put it out a certain way. No information comes in a vacuum. So I'm sure that whatever Diana was told is accurate, but some of it depends on where it actually comes from because I don't think the Packers think Aaron Rodgers is in it for the money either. They all seem like they're on a really good plane right now as far as
Starting point is 00:32:25 what he wants, what they want, what conversations were necessary, how much input was he going to have, how to prepare for the future. I think they're all on a pretty good place right now. Yeah. And anytime that comes out, it gives everybody an opportunity to bury him. And it's, by the way, he's very wealthy, very successful. He has obviously done a lot for our show. Every time he comes on and gives us our conversations, I thankful for that but also like the dude is a human a weird one all right i mean he just got out of the p but like him just getting killed by i don't know i guess that's a gift and a curse of being the fucking mvp though yeah things like that are gonna happen go ahead ty perhaps you want and i go ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead no you
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Starting point is 00:33:26 like, your vaccine takes are terrible. Like he's heard it all. Like, I really think at some point you become very numb to it. So I'm sure he's getting killed for whatever. And I'm sure that not, I'm sure, but I do, I do not think that that's something he's worried about because you're going to literally, anyway. Well, that's why he's worried about because you're going to literally. Anyway. Well, that's why he's always said he's going to kill him with indifference. But then, you know, I feel like I don't know. Can I do that for so long? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It's like, you know, like as somebody who, you know, this guy I've become like kind of friendly with and he's done a lot for us. And it's I'm watching these people and it's like you're all speaking out of your fucking pocket right now. Like, what are we even what are we even doing here? I feel like he's given us a lot to disprove all the narratives that were kind of cooked for a long time but once again like i don't blame bukowski okay right i don't blame jennings all right jennings and him have his own thing it's just kind of the the way these things work in the world that we're in is just wild to me like it's one thing said on rich eyes and then it's every sports media show, this guy's a fucking asshole.
Starting point is 00:34:28 It's like, do we even know if this is real? We have no idea if this is real. Go ahead, Ty. Well, yeah, that's what I was just curious, if anything has, like, affected what's going on with the Packers right now. Like, I assume, like you mentioned, Rap Sheet, that they're all in a really good place right now,
Starting point is 00:34:40 but they do all these deals to kind of, you know, kick the can down the road a little bit but have you heard anything about i mean we haven't heard anything about davante adams like is all this stuff with the packers and kind of creating that crap uh that cap space is that still revolve around when rogers gets this deal done yeah i mean i think rogers has to be first right that that way it doesn't have to be first but i think people like to be first, right? That doesn't have to be first, but I think people would like to be first. They'd like to know that if they're going to move all this money around, that it would be for, you know, maybe the best quarterback in football
Starting point is 00:35:12 and the reigning MVP. Like, that would be helpful. And I think he knows that, too, which is why when he's talked about his time frame, like, he's cognizant of, all right, Devontae has to be tagged by March 8th, so he probably needs to let them know something by then. And I think he probably will. They are kicking the can down the road. And it is interesting what it does, right? Because it's great for players to get a little more now, but it also raises their cap number on the back end. So like Z'Darrius Smith, his cap number is
Starting point is 00:35:42 so big, they almost can't keep him unless he takes a drastic reduction which i don't think he's going to do um so it makes it harder in the future but so much of what the packers just packers are doing is like we're going to try to win this year and then next year we're going to try to figure it out and it's just they're just going to take this year try to win try to make everyone happy try to get a Super Bowl and figure it out after. Okay, that's perfect. Go ahead, Tom. Ian, in free agency, it's a lot of dominoes. After the first quarterback falls,
Starting point is 00:36:11 it was Tom and then it was Stafford. Is there a quarterback this year in free agency where it's going to be wait to see what this quarterback does and then the rest will probably fall in after that? Yeah, I think it's really Rodgers slash Russ's really, uh, Rogers slash Russ, right? Like if Rogers goes back to the Packers and if Russ goes back to Seattle, which, you know, that has been the direction we think it's going, but I would never claim to know a hundred percent where it's going to end up. Cause last year, the Russell Wilson situation took so many twists and turns,
Starting point is 00:36:44 including naming potential places that he would get traded to if he wanted to get traded, which, of course, he wouldn't say if he did or he didn't. So, like, that situation could turn a bunch of places. But let's say Rodgers and Russ are not available, and Carson Wentz becomes a possibility for some. Jimmy Garoppolo becomes certainly interesting. Deshaun Watson will go somewhere and for a very, very, very high price, but it's not going to be everyone because there's been some teams that have said,
Starting point is 00:37:13 you know what, that's just not going to be us for a variety of reasons. But I would say you get, you know, you figure out where Rodgers and Russell Wilson are going, and then everything will sort of sort itself out, and everyone will probably end up with a quarterback. And then it's like, do your Colts stick with Carson, or do they think that they can upgrade? And if they do, who actually is that?
Starting point is 00:37:34 I've heard they're not, right? I mean, that's all reports is that he's not going to be a Colt, right? Listen, Carson, good guy. Hey, good guy. Yeah, good guy. Great guy. I can't go through another season. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah, I know. This heart right here can't go through another season. It's hard. No. Yeah, I know. This heart right here can't go through another season with Carson Wentz. And half Indianapolis. Well, yeah, listen, there'll be a lot of people that are potentially like, oh, my God, this guy just... Just not try to die on every fucking play. We're paying you $30 million.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Can't do it. I mean, you're a great player. Stay alive. But they're moving on, aren't they? Colts are moving on. I mean, I know they are actively looking for another quarterback
Starting point is 00:38:09 because Chris Fowler always will try to improve. I just don't know. Hey, how's that work, Ian? How's that work right now in the time that we're in? Because the league year, is there a tampering thing? Like Russell Wilson, does some team have to show up in his DMs on his social media? How does that work? How does that hold like for Aaron I would be Russell for anybody how does that
Starting point is 00:38:31 work I mean first thing you would do is you know you hope that the team and the player have a good enough relationship where let's say someone calls Seattle and they say hey we're interested in Russ we're willing to do in the ballpark of what you'd think, which would be multiple first-round picks, two or three, or a very high price, and here's why we're in a good situation. We think we could do a deal. Then Seattle would go to Russ, and they would say, all right, we got someone interested.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Is this a team you would waive your no-trade laws to? And he would say, if he said yes, then they would say, all right, well, I think, you know, let's move forward and try to do this. If he says no, it's like, okay, like, that's it. That does not happen. So they have power, but he has power too, because that no trade clause, which Deshaun Watson also has, that is an amazing thing.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So it has to go through the team. So there's no teams reaching out directly to players or their agents, right? You have to go through a team. That's proper protocol. Yeah, and I mean, I'm sure there are things going on. Like if you are a coaching agent who represents multiple players, you could have a team call and say, hi, we're interested in the safety you have.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Oh, how is your quarterback doing? Like you could back channel it and not violate the rules, but it's such high stakes that I don't think anyone's putting themselves out there to do anything crazy because if you get caught, then you can't get the guy, which is way worse than anything else. That's crazy. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Ravsheet, you said Watson's going to go for a very high price,
Starting point is 00:40:02 and obviously last season he was tied to Flores. Is there any shot in hell that the Steelers will kind of sell the farm for Deshaun Watson? I will not say no. I would never. Well, it's just, look, it would be very un-Steeler-like to go out and spend three first-round picks plus for a quarterback. It's something they have almost never done, but not never, because they went and got Minka Fitzpatrick for a one,
Starting point is 00:40:28 and that was a fantastic trade and one they would probably do again. Also hilarious because he resisted a position change, goes to the Steelers, and then plays the position that Brian Flores has wanted him to play anyway, becomes an all-pro, and then Flores now is on his coaching staff. But anyway, some of it depends on who the next GM is and where they are in that. But it would be a fantastic place for Deshaun Watson. It's a great fan base.
Starting point is 00:40:56 The team is good. They're always good. The coach will put you in a position to win, and everybody loves playing for Tom. I'm like, I don't likely, probably not, but I would never rule anything out when it comes to getting a quarterback, which is the most important thing you can do. All right, well, great shirt there paying homage, I believe, and enjoy yourself out there on the slopes, pal. We appreciate you stopping by in the middle of your ski vacay.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, no problem. I'll just say the most amazing thing is that we got through this without me freezing too much. Hopefully there's not a lot of screen grabs on making like... We have to hang on. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Your eyes are crossed a bunch. There's a couple there. There just were. Yeah. Hey, you're alive though. You've been boozing every night. You've been skiing all day. I mean, go ahead and live your life.
Starting point is 00:41:42 We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapp, are you the best? Yeah, I'm the best. The best your life. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. You're the best. Ian Rappaport. The best, buddy. He's awesome. Yeah, he's the best.
Starting point is 00:41:49 He did freeze up a bunch. He did. Oh, yeah. I don't think he knew that because he was frozen. Yeah, it's true. He feels good about it. He's about to go get so drunk it's not even funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:58 It was a good walk off. You know, I didn't even know that he wasn't one of his kids. So that's how that thing goes. Ski school, yeah. If you've got young kids who are learning how to ski i typically drop them off at nine to come up at three you know you just gotta do whatever the hell you want have a day yeah and you yups up here are living good what a deal you got kids daycare basically family vacation don't ever have to see your fucking kids it's awesome
Starting point is 00:42:20 you hey you mountain folks are yeah skiers and boarders got it figured out yeah you do your operation during the day i used to be tuber oh yeah that's good life too trash bag too you see me on trash bag i'm maybe one of the best trash bags letters of all time shoba valley maybe i don't know what that means okay it's mountain big tube mountain yes yeah only the place i've been seven springs oh yeah Oh, yeah. Oh, okay, nice. And Boys Park. Oh, yeah. And then the side of my house.
Starting point is 00:42:49 You know my house? And then there's a flat, and then it's a black diamond to a lodge to black diamond. And then you end up in the street. Boom. That's how I broke my nose, actually. Hit a truck. Grab a lunch tray to slide down. Well, I was learning how to well this particular time yeah lunch tray or one of the i mean trash bags easy cardboard box
Starting point is 00:43:11 cardboard box good the saucer oh yeah the trash is the best of all the saucers best all you can move and when you hit the street you could you could get it up get the sparks going a little bit no no but you can miss your face your face face. Put a little grease on the bottom of it. Yeah. But I was learning how to ride a bike on the flat area next to my house, and I was really going, you know. I was really going in circles. It's a tight little area. So that was a very aggressive decision by my parents.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Hindsight. Especially if you're coming up the hill. No, no. I'm on the flat area. So I'm learning how to ride my bike. No, it's next. My house is here., my house is here. Okay, house is here. Bang.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Backyard is like this. Then there's a side yard. And then the front yard, straight down. Then there's another house right here, right? So this is a tight little area right here. Tight little area. This is where I used to kick soccer ball. Boom, boom, bang, pow.
Starting point is 00:44:02 How you doing? Sled riding, awesome. Street though, pretty active. I mean, it was very much car, you know, bang, pow. How you doing? Sled riding, awesome. Street though, pretty active. I mean, it was very much car, you know, that whole thing. But you had to guess for how long it was going to take for you to get from the top thing.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I'm riding a bike in a circle. How you doing? Keep it moving. How you doing? Keep it moving. It was really the only, if I wasn't in the street, that was really the only flat place to do it.
Starting point is 00:44:20 So, and I thought I had figured out, so I was going to go ahead and just, I was going to get out of here. And I didn't know where the brakes were, I guess. And I went down had it figured out, so I was going to go ahead and just get out of here. And I didn't know where the brakes were, I guess. And I went down the front hill, face first right in the side of F-150. Bang! That's why the nose is the way it is.
Starting point is 00:44:35 That's why I can't breathe, I think. Dad, I think it was Sally. Yeah, I think Sally heard it. Oh, shit! Went right out and grabbed me the whole thing. But those types of hills. I mean, what a magical time for you people up there. Game changers.
Starting point is 00:44:48 And those mountains seem to be huge. He said, oh, there's – how many trails are there up there? Yeah, depending on what mountain. If he's at Killington, there's a lot. They have like four – it's like four mountains. They have like a main mountain, and there's one off the back, one to the side, one to the side. So this is like an awesome thing to get into. Oh, yeah, especially like when it's snowing like that. The conditions are unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:45:04 There's 155 trails at Killington. What? How long does it take to get up to the top? Probably 15 minutes, I think. And that's a good time, right? You guys sit in a gondola? Or what is it on? Does Killington have a gondola?
Starting point is 00:45:17 I don't know if they do. Probably not. I think in comparison, Seven Springs has 35 trails. Those fucking things when you're riding up. I only got to do it one time. I thought i was dead they're getting you're just staring down and you got that metal little bar right here right on the lift yeah yeah yeah they have a quad though it runs pretty fast the gondolas are game changers you just hang out you smoke here you guys smoking dupes oh yeah you're smoking dope yeah they got a little windows. What a time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Drop the kids off. We don't have to see them or care for them at all. Nope. They get lunch. They get the whole thing. We're going to hop in these gondolas, get all fucked up, go up the top of the mountain. Do it again. Not a bad game.
Starting point is 00:45:54 That's awesome. Get to wear super cool stuff. Yeah. Man. The man who will be joining us right now from an attic in Ohio, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Haas. A.J.!
Starting point is 00:46:10 Wow. Fresh hair. Oh, shit. Wow. Oh, shit. Jesus. You're the only dude that goes on a cruise ship to where the sun is and come back paler.
Starting point is 00:46:23 What? You are glowing what that's right man sport sports clips took it tight today man wow yeah you get your haircut in sports clips for sure for like seriously absolutely yeah do you get the hot towel no i don't do the whole i like to be in and out in under 10 minutes so i don't get the whole massage and shampoo situation mvp treatment bro i love the fact that you did get the sports clip special to every haircut. Your haircut is the sports clip special. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:50 All right. Take a zero right up to the top and then let's get out of here. Yeah. Yeah. Poster boy. All right. Let's get ass. You look amazing.
Starting point is 00:46:59 You look amazing. You look absolutely amazing. It's great to see you. I don't know if you saw us earlier. We did some big time journalism stuff. I did see a little bit of that. That's great to see you. I don't know if you saw us earlier. We did some big-time journalism stuff. I did see a little bit of that. That was very good by you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I just, you know, thank you. I appreciate that because I don't know this dude as long as you do, obviously. I'm not as friendly with him as you are, obviously. But he's been very good to me. He's been very good to us. And everything I've learned about him has been much different than the preconceived notions about him that I might have had or heard about. And then just, I don't think he's the only person that this happens to, by the way. This happens on a regular basis.
Starting point is 00:47:34 But for him, it's just like such an easy target at this point, I think, because of the years and decades of him not saying or answering anything. But like a league source said, oh, he wants all money in the world. And then that becomes... Hey, didn't Lombardi say, though, weeks ago that he's going to be the first $50 million man? Yes. I mean, that is, by the way, probably going to get paid $50 million.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Like whatever it's going to be, I have no idea. Back-to-back MVP in the middle of the highest salary cap with salary cap only going up more in the next couple of years. They just signed a $120 billion deal. Red zone deal's up, so go ahead and toss on some more Bs on top of that. Salary cap, if it grows by 10% again, which is what it's expected to do, it'll be $230 million next year. So the deal is going to be a year so like the deal is going to be a large one okay the deal is going to be a large one by the way every i hope every single player in the nfl gets all the money in the world but the way the narrative was well this is what he's commanding demanding this is why he's been the way he's been and this is like you can't do this and also have
Starting point is 00:48:40 a winning team you're acting as if gutekunst and them aren't helping you out but you're commanding it's like that's all bullshit though you know what i mean that becomes an entire news cycle aj and this has happened to him you've been friends with him longer forever right this seems to be something that has happened for a long time with this fucking guy yeah it is and i know you you said you reached out to him and he said he absolutely did not ask for or to be the highest paid player in the nfl and i i would say yeah I know there's no way that he would go and demand that, but I think he deserves to probably be the highest paid guy for the next couple of years. Yeah, that's kind of the –
Starting point is 00:49:13 His agent should, Big Dave Dunn should absolutely. I bet he's in there throwing his meat around telling him, hey, we want whatever, guarantee, all of it. We want a bunch of money. Speaking of meat, get your Brock Lesnar blend. There you go. Yeah, your meat will taste better than it's ever been hey the bearded butchers get a hold of you oh yeah i've been talking to them yeah they're sending me a care package these guys are awesome go to beardedbutchers.com promo code brock i think for 10 off it's great seasoning and now that i'm super duper keto dude i, I'm in ketosis, pissing on strips, finding that out, AJ. You might as well call me the most healthy dude alive.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Oh, yeah. I mean, is this do we owe this to your budding friendship with Dwayne The Rock Johnson that you are so into fitness? I even think about that. I thought you were going to say Brock. Yeah, I mean, Brock as well. But all the stars are kind of aligning where I came in. These monsters that I'm hanging out with, that I'm friends with, Brock and Dwayne, probably the two biggest monsters on the planet,
Starting point is 00:50:10 maybe I need to dial in my nutrition a bit. Well, here's the thing. I was thinking about this on vacation. You know, like, I think I could say I'm friends with Brock at this point. Like, I'm friends with Brock. We hang out. We chat. Okay, he's the alpha male of our species. Bar none. I'm'm friends with you all-time leading tackler of the green bay packers imagine us
Starting point is 00:50:30 hanging out you know and just walking into a place i'm gonna have to get in one of those boxing things where i'm gonna have to knock somebody out yeah oh yeah i'm gonna have to just because of that like i'm gonna have to walk who you're gonna knock out though it depends on who you knock out i'm heavy so it's probably going to have to be some – this is later in life. This will have to be like three, four years from now. But that's going to – I was thinking about that in Hawaii. I'm like, what happens if I go hang out and we have a thing
Starting point is 00:50:54 and we walk into a room and it's like, okay, the guy who would fight the aliens if we had to, another guy potentially makes it on the team, hardest head in the history of baseball. And then I walk in there in a tank top on it. It's like, oh, my God, I'm the soft hardest head in the history yeah and then i walk in there in a tank top it's like oh my god i'm the softest dude in the i'm like you you two might be some of the toughest humans like ever exist and it's like what do you well i kick balls far you know so at some point i assume probably have some you know maybe a beer why my little term on a little vodka
Starting point is 00:51:21 no but at some point i assume there's gonna be to be a conversation, you know, and it's going to be like, all right, I'll fuck it. I'll go do one of those boxing things. That's going to be years from now, though. That's a lot of work. And my face, I don't like getting punched in the actual face, but I do believe I got lightning in both hands. Yeah, three or four years from now, too, Axel will be like 6'4", 250.
Starting point is 00:51:39 No, he's training with me. I'm not fighting Axel. Okay. Sparring partner. I'm not fighting any Lesnar or any Hawk. Okay, fair. Okay, that's just a rule that I am making now. I'm not fighting any Lesnar or any Hawk. That's just a rule that I am making now.
Starting point is 00:51:52 But three or four years from now, I will probably be in some... You should fight maybe Nick Cage. We talked about him on the show yesterday. All right, if Nick Cage wanted to fight, I would fight him more. Okay, all right. I'm joking. I wouldn't want to break the Con Air's face. You know what I mean? That wouldn't be something I would want to do.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And I wouldn't get punched in the Con Air's face. You know what I mean? That wouldn't be something I would want to do. And I want to get punched in the actual face by Nick Cage. But I will say the people that have, you know, kind of my, our life, our world, our universe has kind of grown into have been spectacular people. I've, believe it or not, I've never talked to this man. Never met this man. Lot of mutual friends though. Oh yeah, you bet. As soon as I got that tweet from him the one day,
Starting point is 00:52:26 I was like, man, this is a fucking big deal. This is the biggest star on earth tweet me. Then he follows it up like, hey, it's going to be a good one. Look forward to coming on the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Hey, thank you, Dwayne. I appreciate it. Thank you, Dwayne. I can't wait to meet this guy, AJ. I can't wait to have a full conversation. I think he's going to be
Starting point is 00:52:40 sitting right there. Now, granted, we got to get another headset. Yeah. Another microphone. Because another WWE champion that came through here demolished it all. I can't wait for this, though. This is a pretty cool little – look at that.
Starting point is 00:52:52 It's a graveyard. It is a graveyard up there. Headset's still hanging in the rafters when we move to Igloo. We will take the rafters from here, move it to the Igloo, and hang it up there so the headset will always be in the rafters or whatever. But this is awesome, AJ. It's a ridiculous life right now. It is a very dumb life that this guy even knows we exist, dude.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I think, yeah, it's pretty amazing. It's awesome. Now, do you think, does he have any reason to be in Indy over the next three to six months, do you think, when he could come in? Well, he's trying to free a combine, maybe. Oh, yeah. He should go do, he should, dude Oh, yeah. He should start the combine.
Starting point is 00:53:27 They should do a similar thing where he gets everybody going. I'd actually just love to see his combine stats. See how many reps he can do, you know? Oh, gosh. 225 he is crushing. You know, as you get older, you get slower. What's he do? 48 reps, you think, of 225?
Starting point is 00:53:42 I'm not sure. What's the norm? What do you do? You got that torn tit. Yeah, I i was never a big i got like 25 but i'm saying i bet rock is for sure 40 plus are you embarrassed by that number or you feel okay saying that number in public with your meat i'm fine with that what what general bob get um bob has long arms bob was similar to me i think you guys ever talk about that now, like later in life, you know, once I know, no,
Starting point is 00:54:06 it doesn't matter. Two 25. Does it matter at all? Oh, so now, now what the rock is able to do 48 times. Doesn't matter. Bob was 20.
Starting point is 00:54:13 That's all. That's amazing. That's awesome. Bob hit 20. So that was big for you. Oh, did he good? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:17 When it comes to this guy, so you were getting 21. Yeah. Cause what? See carpenter comes before H. Yeah. So the C, for sure. Were you guys the same class?
Starting point is 00:54:28 Yeah. Same class. C becomes before H. So at his pro day, he seen the general do his 225. Oh, no. Bob did not do his 225 at pro day, I don't think. It was strictly at the combine, I believe. Nonetheless, in Indianapolis, C comes before H.
Starting point is 00:54:45 AJ saw General Bob do his, saw 20. Hey, good work, good work. I'm dying unless I get 21. That thing would have taken her. Wait, what did Bob get? I thought you said Bob did 27. No, he got 20. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Yeah, he's got really long arms. Okay, listen. It's not good. We're on your side. We're on General Bob's side. We're just saying that is something you meatheads do care about or no, not at all. It's not good. We're on your side. We're on General Bob's side. But we're just saying that is something you meatheads do care about or no, not at all. Like him doing 48. You think Rock would care about that for sure, right?
Starting point is 00:55:11 That'd be something he'd care about? Yeah. Oh, it's cool to do. But I'm always saying it doesn't matter when it comes to translating to a football field. Oh, gotcha. Yeah, we won't want him running, though. I'd rather have C.D. Rock running whenever he was back, literally sprinting to the ring in dress shoes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:27 And then sliding across the ground, hopping into the ring. That's when, as you get older, you get slower. Owen might seem like that. Does he vert, too, though? Oh, because he's still got it. Yeah, for sure. He's drop-stepped dunking all day long. I think so.
Starting point is 00:55:41 He's on a basketball court. Yeah, and he is. Wide load. I mean, underneath. I'm not catching it. One of those elbows may give me my first concussion. Well, that's people's elbows. I'm not doing that. You wouldn't be the only one to get taken out by that elbow, pal. Just want to let you know that. Alright, let's bounce
Starting point is 00:55:56 around some of the NFL stuff happening. Top decision makers for the Colts believe Wentz is not the guy per Zach Kiefer. Zach Kiefer used to be the indie star here in Indianapolis. Now he's at the Athletic. His sources, top decision makers is what we're being told, are out on Carson Wentz.
Starting point is 00:56:13 The decision is not going to be made solely on football. That's my understanding. It's not just based on how Wentz played on the field. The top decision makers are convinced he's not the guy and they aren't willing to run it back and just hope for better. All right? Shout out to the Around the NFL podcast and Zach Kiefer. Zach Kiefer, good dude.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I am a fan of Zach Kiefer. He's a great writer. He's been around for a while, too. He's been around Indy for a long time. Top decision makers would be Jim Irsay, Carly Irsay, Kalen Irsay. I don't know. I wonder what that means, but all I do know is this follows up on the report like a week ago that they are done with Carson. Now the waiting game for which quarterbacks are going to be available, what's the next step, and where does
Starting point is 00:56:54 Carl go? I think people are going to want Carl in this super quarterback needy market that the NFL currently is. I think I saw something. I saw a headline where it said if Carson Wentz is not an Indy, he'll go to a great team. Is that because a team with a solidified starter will want to bring him in to be an awesome backup if he needs to go into the lineup? No, I think people are talking about him going to Pittsburgh, maybe. I saw a couple reports about that.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I think a lot of people, because right now it feels like a lot of teams feel like they have a good team that don't have a quarterback. And I might be misreading a lot of situations, but I feel like that's how... That's what the Colts thought too, though, right? Yeah, it didn't work out. I mean, COVID, everything.
Starting point is 00:57:31 He broke his foot in training camp. It is true. And his great plays, by the way. Great. Unbelievable. It's just me personally, as somebody who has a show named after him, speaking into a microphone on a daily basis,
Starting point is 00:57:46 who happens to watch every single Colt game, not only because it's the only one available sometimes on one channel, most of the time, but also because I'm a fan. Everybody in that building I'm a fan of. I would like to see them have success. It is impossible to watch Carson Wentz play and not shit your
Starting point is 00:58:03 pants. It is impossible. Even in games in which you win by 30. We're beating the Jets there. Thought it was potentially, ah, he might get a career ender here. On every single play we were there. He is just a role. If you have a good team and you need a quarterback, you can see how Carson Wentz, whenever you see his highlights, which are he's a fucking hell of a player whenever he's playing great.
Starting point is 00:58:24 It's just that every play feels like needs to be a little bit more sturdy for us because we got to go run game and we got a great offensive line. So maybe it's not a great fit for us. That's probably what a lot of teams who have to make these decisions are going to sell themselves if they end up with none of the other quarterbacks that they potentially want. Don't you think that is? Yeah, I do. But going back to that tweet, what does that mean when it says it's not solely based on football?
Starting point is 00:58:46 I thought everything outside of football, Carson's great, right? No, but that's interesting. That is interesting because they'd be talking like, yeah, you would take that and say like, oh, this must be meeting and life and everything like that. Contracts, right? I mean, that's got to have something. Leadership or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:00 What are they trying to say here? Yeah, well, I think it's just that he's willing to die on every play. That's a good thing, though. That's a good trait to have. Yeah, linebacker, great position to have that particular trait. Safety, box safety. Box safety, it's a great trait. Guard, I think.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Tackle, not a good thing. Center, guard, I think that's good. D-line, in the middle, that's good. For sure. Thought to have. Water boy. Any of those other, punter, you know, you want a daughter. They have to have it. You got to have it.
Starting point is 00:59:29 It's the best dangerous play in football. Yeah, PP, of course. PP's trying to do it. Gunners, wedge busters, these are all great positions to have that. I don't know if that franchise quarterback gets the right mentality to have. I might be wrong.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Carson might prove us wrong. But, I mean, he's gotten a lot of significant injuries, and he has not changed or thought about changing. No. At all. And he's playing both his angles in one play, dude. I mean, I mean. He can't have it.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Do you understand that? Both of his angles. Did we have a clip of the play when it happened? We have a picture. We have a screenshot, yeah. We have a picture. It's Aaron Donald clearly sacking him. Like, hey, you are dead.
Starting point is 01:00:06 We're in the red zone, too, I think. I think we're in the red zone. We end up losing to the Rams. We're in the red zone. And he just let, by the way, love the mentality, okay? If I'm playing pickup basketball with Carson, I want him on my team. I'm playing pickup football. I want him on my team.
Starting point is 01:00:23 To pay him $30 million and to be the quarterback, the face of the franchise in the program, and have to live through now 17 games instead of 16, every single quarter with him, I just don't know if the decision makers in Indy are up for it again. I don't know if they're up for another year. Oh, my God. So that's your reaction. Like, I don't know if they're up for another year. Ah! Oh. Oh! Oh. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:00:47 So that's your reaction. When you're watching the games, I assume that's how you feel. Imagine what it's like being Jim Irsay or Frank Reckman head coach when you're on the sidelines watching it in real time, man. That would be tough. Man, he's got $30 million. I mean, we just had this with Andrew Luck. I'm not doing this shit again.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I can't. I can't. Jim Irsay has to be thinking. Now, we don't know if top decision makers are Jim Irsay via Zach Kiefer's quote there. We have no idea. We do know that Jim is involved
Starting point is 01:01:11 in the entire process, so we can assume that's going to... Yeah, here it is. Yeah, here it is. Yeah, look at this. In the red zone, dude. Nope.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Dead. Nope. Not dead yet. Let me go ahead and plant and get one more pass off here as he plants Aaron Donald's body. He complete that ball? No.
Starting point is 01:01:29 No, no, no, no. I mean, I think he's lucky. Looking at that, he's lucky it was just both of his ankles. That could have been another ACL. 10-4, good buddy. I agree. That's why I like. And then he goes back out there.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Yeah. He tries to go out there next series. Hey. What's he look like when he jogs back out of the field? He tried to go back out there the next series, dude. It was like, bro, I respect how tough you are. No play left behind. I got nothing but love for that.
Starting point is 01:01:58 But also, god damn, this is a men's league, pal. There's a lot of money on the line. Look at his eyes. Oh, yeah. I can make the play. I love it. Yes, you can, pal. There's a lot of money on the line. Look at his eyes. I can make the play. I love it. Yes, you can, dude. Yes, you can.
Starting point is 01:02:09 But also, there's another down. Hey, there's another down coming. There's another down coming. Another series, too. Another game. This is early. No, you got to play every play like you did last. You know that.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I get it. I understand that, like, play to the whistle. Every play. I understand all these things in theory are fantastic. I'm just letting you know, one year watching Carson Wentz as my team's quarterback was enough. It's enough for me. And I don't know if I'm the only – it feels like I'm not the only one that's thinking that. I love Carson.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Another place will be great for him. I can't wait to see his highlights whenever he goes somewhere. Yeah. You know, but I feel like these Eagles fans, he'd be great for Pittsburgh. He'd be great for Pittsburgh. That's a Philadelphia thing to Indianapolis. Great hunting up there. Tim McAfee would take him right up to Tampa.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Tampa, let him get a tan. The Commanders. Tampa. They could use him. Tampa's got good. Central Florida's got good boar hunting. Right in the big time? A lot of quarterbacks named Carson.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Loves them. Carson Palmer's a long time. And joining us, live from New York, a man who we were initially introduced to as electricity via the Pardon My Take podcast, a man who's a grinder,
Starting point is 01:03:24 an insider, works for CBS, knows more about college basketball than you do. Just signed a deal with FanDuel to be a content creator. We'll sleep in May. This is FanDuel. Ladies and gentlemen, John Rothstein. Yeah, Johnny! Pat, right now I feel like Shawn Michaels at the culmination of WrestleMania 12.
Starting point is 01:03:47 The boyhood dream has come true. Well, listen, I want to let you know it is our dream to have you on here. It was probably our fault why you were muted earlier. It sounded like you came in with some real fire. We will not ask you to duplicate that because we know some will come in the few minutes here we have. Hey, John, great to see you. Congrats on the FanDuel. Hey, Jeff.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Appreciate it, fellas. Great to join you guys and the FanDuel family. And remember, this is only February. So as you mentioned, we're taking things to another level. And we are just 16 days away from Selection Sunday. Not that anybody's counting. Okay, so let's talk about that. 16 days.
Starting point is 01:04:23 What teams are we going to see? Who matters? Who doesn't? Or all the old school. Gonzaga. All other school baylor i think is in there who i don't know the normal schools are they still the powerhouses here do we have some new ones what should we be looking at right now talk to me as if i know nothing about college basketball because i don't but people that are people that are watching potentially john well pat i'll tell you this. You obviously followed last year, and last year there were two teams that were clearly better than the rest in Baylor and Gonzaga. This year, it's the polar opposite.
Starting point is 01:04:54 This year, parity has again dominated college basketball. Any number of 8 to 10 teams, maybe even 11 or 12, could win a national championship. Even more than that could get to a final four. But I also think that we need to look at a bigger situation right now. Two potent offensive teams have separated themselves in college basketball. One is Gonzaga, who's been an incumbent at the top of the bracket. And the other is Arizona, which is coached by Tommy Lloyd,
Starting point is 01:05:26 the former top assistant at Gonzaga. These two offenses feel like they're on a collision course. And if we get a Gonzaga-Arizona matchup in the Final Four or the National Championship game, both will be number one seeds in the NCAA tournament. It will be college basketball's version of reigns versus lesnar wow hey what is what does gonzaga do so well that they're able to consistently be so good especially in this era of like one and done and recruit one guy and win a national championship well hawk i'll
Starting point is 01:06:00 tell you this much when gonzaga went to the Final Four for the first time in 2017, it put the program on a different level. And now all of a sudden, instead of getting maybe some of the best transfers in college basketball, Gonzaga all of a sudden was able to recruit the best of the best. Last year they had a dynamic lead guard in Jalen Suggs. This year they have a unicorn in Chet Porzingis, who is completely – excuse me, Chet Holmgren, who is completely unlike anybody that we've seen
Starting point is 01:06:32 in college basketball. Initially, when he was in high school and I watched him, people compared him to Christoph Porzingis, but he's much different. The motor runs at a different level. He can be a shot blocker on defense and a three-point shooter on offense. Last time I think in San Francisco, in multiple situations, Gonzaga was in a situation where Holmgren got a defensive rebound, led the break, went to the other rim, and finished.
Starting point is 01:06:57 We are seeing a scenario right now where Gonzaga has not one, but two All-Americans in its front court with Chet Holmgren, who's in play to be the number one overall pick in the 22 NBA draft, along with Drew Timmy, who is the consensus preseason national player of the year. Drew Timmy's my guy, right? That's the mustache guy? Mustache guy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Okay, I love that guy. Hey, John, thank you for breaking this down like I'm a doofus because I am. I feel like I just learned a lot. No, no, I'm letting you know. I am, and I appreciate that. I can't wait to see Holmgren play. I'm pumped. I can't wait to see Holmgren play.
Starting point is 01:07:31 He's going coast to coast. He's a beast. Someone pick his NBA guy lottery guy. Get through March Madness. Let's make some things dance. We have a guy in here that pays very close attention to college basketball strictly because he bets on it every single day. You might have a problem.
Starting point is 01:07:45 This is what he looks like, by the way. This is the man. Bang, John. That's Gumpy right there. These are his top 16, John. How do you feel about this? Is this how we should be viewing it? I guess Purdue at 11 has a lot of people pissed off.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Is this about accurate, or are these the teams you see making it to the Sweet 16? Yeah, I think that's a good 16 by Gumpy right there. Gumpy kind of reminds me of one of the guys who was like any extras on the trail in like the Lost World Jurassic Park series. He looked like he could hang out in like Jurassic World. Check that out. Yeah, it's called.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gumpy's looking to take down some raptors. By the way, just for reference too, really looking forward to Jurassic World, the minion hitting theaters in June. You know, we've got an opportunity to like, you know, get a Saturday afternoon with Jurassic World, the mini. But anyway, getting back on track right here. I think this is a really good list by Gumpy.
Starting point is 01:08:38 And I think, you know, one thing we need to keep in mind as well is that momentum plays a big role in college basketball. And I'll give you a perfect example. 11 years ago, UConn finished 9-9 in the Big East regular season. They went to the Big East tournament. Kemba Walker happened. They won five games in a row. Then they go to the NCAA tournament, and they win six games in a row.
Starting point is 01:09:00 The rest is history. And then just last year, UCLA was a team that lost its five-star point guardation next to the G League. It lost its best returning player, Chris Smith, to a torn ACL. And also its starting center, Jalen Hill, pretty much quit the team in February. The Bruins lost four straight games heading into the NCAA tournament, and then they went from the first four to the final four. So in the next 16 days, we are going to see momentum at a real level play a factor in all of this. But remember, Pat, this is only February.
Starting point is 01:09:33 By the way, February is nothing compared to the next month. Oh, yeah. Hey, March Madness is coming on the other side. UCLA had that kid with that fro, right? Yeah. Had that in. Yeah, he was awesome. Is he still on the school?
Starting point is 01:09:44 Tiger Campbell. Huh? Tiger Campbell's the guy he was awesome. Is he still on the school? Tiger Campbell. Huh? Tiger Campbell's the guy with the fro. Is he still on the team? He's still on the team, yeah. He was their point guard, Tiger Campbell. UCLA is a team, Pat, that's had incredible bad luck with injuries this year.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Cody Riley, their top interior player from a year ago, had 14-10-5 in the Final Four against Gonzaga. He was out for the first month of the year then they went on a month-long covid pause jaime jaquez who looked like a potential all-american has battled an ankle injury for probably a month right now so ucla right now needs to get healthy a shell of itself they lost at oregon last night well they might be able to do what they did last year who knows that's why college basketball is so crazy and when you talk about momentum we assume that the momentum of coach k's final year has led duke to be great gumpy's got him at
Starting point is 01:10:29 five there is this coach k thing been everything it was cracked up to be before the season i haven't followed closely enough is he giving speeches at every arena is he getting gifts at every arena like jeter how is that whole thing going and are they a team that could maybe win in this final year for the guy coach k is pretty much getting treated this season like brett hart did at the end of wrestlemania 10 remember when everybody kind of stormed the ring and put them on their shoulders after he beat yokozuna at the garden it's kind of like a similar type of send off yeah and and one thing too you know with that's ironic about this duke situation is you know we've grown up with the ACC always being one of the great leagues in college basketball. It's not this year.
Starting point is 01:11:09 They're dead, John? The ACC's dead? Uh-oh. Right now, Pat, believe it or not, right now the ACC has 15 teams. I have four ACC teams in my bracket today. Duke, Notre Dame, Miami, and Wake Forest, North Carolina in the bubble. So Duke is not in a situation from now until Selection Sunday where they're going to get the type of quality opponents that they need
Starting point is 01:11:34 to boost their standing. Despite a terrific record, Duke right now, to me, looks like they'll be a two or maybe even a three seed in the NCAA tournament because they're not getting the same caliber of competition. However, Duke did beat Gonzaga, did beat Kentucky, and Duke, because of the talent base, has the highest ceiling in college basketball. I'm not saying Duke's the best team, but Duke has the highest ceiling. And think about this.
Starting point is 01:11:59 From a recruiting perspective, this Duke team has a starting five, Trevor Keels, Wendell Moore, A.J. Griffin, and Howard Williams that combined was highly recruited and highly rated and higher rated than the Duke team that won a national championship seven years ago in Indianapolis with Tyus Jones, Justice Winslow, and Jaleel O'Rourke. Okay, so they have an opportunity, you're saying. Go ahead, AJ. So are people thinking that if Duke doesn't make a run that they're an underachieving team? Oh, like every other Duke squad, the Coach K's coach.
Starting point is 01:12:39 They had Zion. They're serious holes in this Duke team, I think, when you look at potential experience. Because remember, last year's Duke team, okay, missed the NCAA tournament. There was no NCAA tournament in 2020. So the thing that's missing from Duke right now is NCAA tournament experience. The only guy that's really played substantial minutes in the NCAA tournament for Duke is Marquette transfer Theo John.
Starting point is 01:13:05 And he was on the Marquette team, remember, in 2019 that went out in the first round when Murray State upset Marquette. Murray State's job, right? Yeah, I'm college basketball guy. Yeah, you know. Just real quick before the boys have their actual
Starting point is 01:13:20 questions. West Virginia just stinks of basketball? I thought we were a good basketball team, and then I checked out the whole record, and we fucking stink. When did that happen? What happened? West Virginia is having a season right now that is comparable to the experience that Mick Foley had as king of the 1998 in Hell in a Cell.
Starting point is 01:13:40 They're in last place right now, and if they get knocked out in the first round of the Big 12 tournament, you might as well break out the thumbtacks. Oh, man. Get into the cage, dude. People forget about that. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, John, love these top-of-the-table teams,
Starting point is 01:13:56 but who's our Loyola Chicago this year? Who's the team that's coming out of nowhere and making some noise? Well, how long do you have? I mean, how long is this spot? I can take you until 6 o'clock if you really want to get in there. It's the offseason for the NFL, so go on. Rip it. Go on.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Do what you got to do. All right. Well, let's look at the teams right now outside the main six conferences. The Mountain West Conference has had a resurgence this year without its main brands doing primary damage. UNLV or New Mexico is not right now projected to be in the NCAA tournament out of the Mountain West. But Wyoming, Colorado State, Boise State, and San Diego State are.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Colorado State is a potent offensive team led by David Roddy, somebody who looks like an offensive guard but plays like a shifty two guard. Oh, the big body can move. like an offensive guard but plays like a shifty two guard yes and wyoming has one of the more underrated one-two punches in college basketball with hunter maldonado and grant ek that's a really really good league an underrated league now in gonzaga's league saint mary's led by randy bennett has had a major resurgence they are very quietly a team that's going to host Gonzaga tomorrow night but has already won in excess of 20 games. They've been ranked in the top 25.
Starting point is 01:15:11 And if you look at St. Mary's in your bracket, think to yourself, this is the equivalent of like playing Wisconsin. They're an old team. They don't turn it over. They're outstanding defensively. They're extremely, extremely well coached. They don't turn it over. They're outstanding defensively.
Starting point is 01:15:24 They're extremely, extremely well coached. Now, Rick Pitino has led Iona to domination of the NAC. Are you talking restaurant? Oh, yeah. He's back, huh? He has built an American Conference roster at Iona. He's got two American Conference transfers in the backcourt Tyson Jolly and Elijah Joyner as well as a burgeoning big man in Nelly Jr. Joseph a sophomore who's averaging a double-double in his last two games they're a team to watch out of the MAAC we've talked about Murray State I just
Starting point is 01:15:56 hung up with their head coach Matt McMahon before I got on with you guys and the most interesting thing about Murray State this season, Murray State has two starters, Kevin Brown and KJ Williams from the team that beat Marquette in 2019 that we just talked about. They combined for 35 and 10 rebounds in that game alongside John Morant. So there is NCAA tournament experience on Murray State's roster. Beyond that, there are still other teams that I would put in bold print. I think one of the more interesting conference tournaments that we're going to have, only one team can go, is the Mid-American Conference Tournament.
Starting point is 01:16:39 That's in your neck of the woods, Pat. Toledo is a team that is potent offensively. Rock and roll! Toledo is a team that is potent offensively. That's the Rockets, dude. No, I hear you. Now, Ohio is the team. By the way, Elton John is on his last story. It was at MSG this week.
Starting point is 01:17:00 I couldn't go, though, because obviously Tuesday night was a big night in college hoops. But anyway, we're going to look at Ohio. That's why this guy's on the show. That's right that's why this guy is a fan dual content creator all of a sudden because this dude could have seen elton john on his last tour again yeah again again yeah we'll see and instead it's mid-time basketball it's february we're close we're getting close thank you for that this is only february now in the in the mid-amer too, Ohio, a team last year that beat Virginia, is a team that has replaced their star point guard, Jason Preston,
Starting point is 01:17:30 with another point guard, Mark Sears, who's been absolutely sensational. He forms a nice troika along with Ben Vanderplass and Xavier transfer, Jason Carter. And also, Kent State has had a resurgence thanks to sincere carry, a transfer from Duquesne who had 42 earlier this week. So only one team is going to go from that league, but the Mid-American Conference representative in the NCAA tournament should be formidable.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Hey, listen, Duquesne's a profitable school. They fucking stink this year. They're about as bad as West Virginia's. No. Get this thumbtacks out, dude. You guys lost to guys putting up 40 points against me. That's an issue. I got some news for you guys on Duquesne if you want it. Sure. Absolutely. Oh, shots. Get this thumbtacks out, dude. You guys lost to guys putting up 40 points against me. That's an issue. We didn't lose anybody.
Starting point is 01:18:06 I got some news for you guys on Duquesne if you want it. Sure. Absolutely. We'll be the Duquesne news breaking. Go, Dukes. I just tweeted this a little over an hour ago. Their AD, Dave Harper, has told me that Keith Danbrough, their head coach, will return next season.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Thank God. Great day to be a Duke. Get another opportunity. And again, Pat, I don't think people understand how difficult this job is. I have different taglines for different schools in college basketball. For me, Keith Tamborat
Starting point is 01:18:34 is mission impossible because Duquesne hasn't been to the NCAA tournament since 77. They got there in 77, a losing record because they won their conference tournament and got the automatic qualifier. That, my friends, is the epitome of brutality. You guys stink.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Football school. You guys stink. Tony. You guys stink. Listen, A.J. Palumbo Center will be rocking, though. I can promise you that. Palumbo. Gumpy, your question for John Rothstein, sir.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Yeah, John, I'm really high on Illinois, have been all year. They're plus 4,500 to win the natty right now. Why can't they put it together on a consistent basis, my friend? It's a chemistry experiment, Gumpy, and coming into the season, many people, including myself, felt that one of the best guards in the country would have been Andre Corbello, Illinois' talented sophomore. Andre Corbello has had lingering concussion issues all season long, and the rhythm and the chemistry of this team has been like alternate
Starting point is 01:19:30 side parking in New York City. It's every third day. And what we're finding is Illinois, and I spoke to a Big Ten head coach about this this week, is a harder team to guard when Andre Corbello is not on the floor because what Brad Underwood has done is he's got, obviously, a staple in the middle in Kofi Coburn, a first-team All-American, a National Player of the Year candidate. Cockburn's still playing?
Starting point is 01:19:51 Yeah, Cockburn. He is a big boy. But he's surrounded them with great shooters, Jacob Granderson, Demonte Williams, Alfonso Plummer, and Trent Frazier. So when you add Corbello to that mix, it affects their spacing a little bit. The rhythm and the chemistry for Illinois, as it's been for many teams this year, has been a work in progress. Go ahead, Tom.
Starting point is 01:20:12 John, I am an Iowa alum big-time fan, even though they – I mean, we kind of know what's going to happen with them this year. Is anyone in the Big Ten going to kind of like separate themselves outside Illinois? Like can Iowa make any noise? Are they going to make tournament, squeak by in the Big Ten going to kind of like separate themselves outside Illinois? Like can Iowa make any noise? Are they going to make tournament, squeak by in the first round and get their asses beat by someone good in the second round? Well, Iowa's NCAA tournament team, which to me is a tremendous accomplishment considering that it lost Luka Garza and Joe.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Hey, congrats. Yeah. Keegan Murray's pretty damn good. Hey, those dudes run like John Deere out there. That's right. That's right. But I will say this. You know, I think really what Keegan Murray is doing right now for Iowa's
Starting point is 01:20:53 sophomore is grossly, grossly underappreciated. I mean, you know, here's a guy who if he played, and I mean this with all due respect to Iowa's program, if Keegan Murray played for a blue blood program at Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana, he would universally be viewed as a first team All-American and a National Player of the Year candidate.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Iowa stinks. Iowa stinks. You hear about Johnny Davis from Wisconsin. You hear about Oscar Sheboy, Kofi Coburn, Ochai Abadji from Kansas. You don't hear Keegan Murray resonating as much as he should be. This guy is not taking a nibble. He's taking a gargantuan bite as a sophomore.
Starting point is 01:21:31 How come? Is that because you guys in New York don't want to talk about the Iowa team? I've been talking about Iowa, Pat. I'm telling you. I was buying stock now in Keegan Murray. I called my financial advisor, and I said, Blue Horseshoe loves Hanacott Steel like Charlie Sheen in and wall street so in 1970 oh yeah all right thank you all right we appreciate you doing that over there in the big city for iowa yeah thank you it's very nice to
Starting point is 01:21:53 do that what was the italian restaurant you referenced in your fanduel video oh that was a campagnola on 74th and first a new york York City staple, unbelievable tri-pasta appetizer. Pat, you and your guys want to come in. I'll call Frankie. I'll set it up. No problem. Set it up. It sounds like something you should set up.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Set it up. You want me to call Frankie? You know Frankie pretty good? Yeah, I know Frankie pretty well, but if you want to flex the muscle, you want to do it, go ahead. No, just the pinky ring. Just the pinky ring and the 23 and me,
Starting point is 01:22:23 and I'll say, hey, normally I'm eating the Frazzellini's. But if we can go by the Frankie's, we'll have some good food. The gabagoola is so good. It's a New Yorker in the pizza. It's the Italian pizza. I can do that if you want me to, John, but I don't want to ruin it. Yeah, dude. Go on.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Do what you do. I don't want to ruin it. Hey, dude. Go on. I don't want to ruin it. Hey, John, my last question, John. Who's going to win the NIT this year? I think, you know, really, you know, you've got to look at Herb Zendik's team at Santa Clara. They had Joseph Franklin. They're starting center out of the lineup, you know, early in the season due to mononucleosis.
Starting point is 01:23:01 A lot of people don't know this about Santa Clara. They beat TCU and Stanford early in the year. They've got a burgeoning star that not a lot of people know about in Jalen Williams. And they are on track right now to be the three seed in the West Coast Conference tournament ahead of San Francisco and BYU, who are projected to be in the field or very, very close. So I think Santa Clara is an NIT team out of the West Coast Conference.
Starting point is 01:23:23 John, how long have you just said, you know what, everything college basketball, I won't fucking know. Like, how long has that been? You just dropped an NIT champion. I mean, that is... Yeah, no, it started on March 30th, 1991. UNLV was on a 45 game winning streak. They were 34-0 going into the 1991 Final Four
Starting point is 01:23:39 in Indianapolis. 79-77 was the final score. Duke beat UNLV that night. UNLV was undefeated. Christian Laettner makes two free throws with 12 seconds left. And if you remember, those two teams played in the title game the year before in Denver. UNLV beat Duke 103-73.
Starting point is 01:23:58 That was the first moment I really remember falling in love with college basketball. And, Pat, you know, we were talking a little bit about my father earlier via text. My parents have been married right now for an extremely, extremely long time. They'll celebrate their 47th wedding anniversary in May. That was a long time. I remember my mom made plans and my dad was like, yeah, I'm not going. I've got to watch Duke UNLV.
Starting point is 01:24:22 I knew it was a really, really big deal. I didn't know how big it was until I saw Leitner make those two free throws. And you have to remember, that was the first national championship for Mike Krzyzewski. He went in 86. He lost to Louisville, 72-69 in the title game. He went in 88. He lost, and Kansas won a national championship. He went in 89. He lost to Seton Hall in Seattle, and He went in 87. He went in 88. He lost, and Kansas won a national championship. He went in 89. He lost a seat in Holland,
Starting point is 01:24:48 Seattle, and he went in 90, and he lost to UNLV in the title game. In 91, he broke through. He ended UNLV's 45-game winning streak. Since then, some people have hobbies. I watch college basketball. We appreciate that. We appreciate that a lot. I mean, if
Starting point is 01:25:03 Krzyzewski, Coach K, does that run there of losing the natty five years, five times, he's getting killed right now. Oh, baby. I did not know that. You said, if you remember. I did not. I did not remember any of that. I wish I did, but I do not remember any of that. I didn't know Coach Krzyzewski could have like five more titles on him.
Starting point is 01:25:22 No clue. Big time killer early on. 72-69. He could be a guy. So as an insider, you're just texting with everybody all day, every day. You know what's going on. Does that help feed your punditry? Or how does it work in that particular? Are you just knower of all things?
Starting point is 01:25:38 Is that kind of how you're viewed? No, I just try to always be, you know, going to practices in the preseason, always making sure, you know, you're getting insight from coaches and so on and so forth, but at the same time forming your own opinions. But I think obviously having the insight and the working knowledge on a day-in, day-out basis. I've kind of made up my mind right now that this is what I do 365 days a year, seven days a week, and twice on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Well, we appreciate that. A couple more questions here, and we appreciate your time. Zito just dropped in my ear, and, you know, it's a pretty good question because I think there's like millions and millions of dollars on the line for this, maybe even a billion at this point. I'm not 100% sure. The perfect bracket, what are your thoughts? Do you fill out numerous brackets?
Starting point is 01:26:21 Are you in all these bracketologies? Will you be the first person with the perfect bracket that gets like a billion dollars or would that never happen no the worst thing you can do when you fill out a bracket is have really good working knowledge of college basketball because the more you know the worse you're going to do because you're going to analyze certain things you'd be like well vermont's a 16th seed and ryan davis has been incredible in the america east maybe they could shock somebody and this is how much I want to tell you about how all of this is really just by a whim. When UMBC beat Virginia in 2018 and was the first 16 seed to beat a one in NCAA tournament history, UMBC was not expected to win the America East that year. Vermont was the heavy favorite.
Starting point is 01:27:06 They were in a possession game in Burlington on their home floor, and Jarris Lyles, a VCU transfer for UMBC, pulled up, made a three-point shot, and the rest is history. Nobody thought that UMBC was going to win the America East that year, let alone be a 16th seed that beat a one. But Pat, you got to remember, it's not anarchy. It's just college basketball. John, let's be honest.
Starting point is 01:27:33 You know who's going to win the entire thing. So why don't you just tell us right now who should we bet on and why are they going to win? I'm not going to say anything until I see a bracket, but I will say this. This year's tournament will be harder to predict than most because the level of separation between teams is extremely – John, who's going to win? Who the hell?
Starting point is 01:27:54 Who's good value? Arizona? I forget. That's who you said. Get back in Arizona. Arizona have been the two most impressive teams that I've seen so far, followed by Auburn. But Auburn's guard play to me is a concern.
Starting point is 01:28:06 And I think that John Calipari's team at Kentucky, who has won back-to-back SEC games against Alabama and LSU without its starting backcourt of Ty Ty Washington and Xavier Wheeler, has been absolutely sensational in 2022. I don't know if there's another team in the country that could have beaten Alabama and LSU back-to-back without a starting backboard. I'll say this, okay?
Starting point is 01:28:32 If there was a bracket today and I had to fill it out, I don't know who the fourth team would be, but I know that regardless of where they were placed, I would pick Gonzaga, Arizona, and Kentucky to be in the final four in New Orleans. We appreciate that. We're also appreciative of your time. We're thankful that FanDuel signed you because you're the man. Can't wait to chat with you more. Excited to see how many hours you sleep over the next few weeks. Ladies and gentlemen, Jon Roste.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Hour three on the other side. Cheers. No, you're good. What's up, Jon? We don't sleep. We sleep in May. Well, oh, yeah. Guys, I kind of fucking ruined your whole tagline there. I can't wait to see how many hours. That's on me. We're still live on YouTube. We're not on Sirius anymore.
Starting point is 01:29:14 We had a hard out there, which, by the way, I mean. Yeah. Bang. On the screws. Right on the. Right. Right on the. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Bang. McGuire. What is like a day-to-day... Okay, yeah, Foxy, go ahead. John, can we expect any other coaches to get smacked in the moth this season or what? I don't think after what happened last Sunday, I think that kind of set the precedent.
Starting point is 01:29:36 What's that all about? Has that ever happened before? No, I don't think I've ever seen a coach hit another coach, man. That was pretty intense. We appreciate you, man. Don't sleep, obviously. We'll talk to you next week, hopefully.
Starting point is 01:29:50 All right, guys. Have a great weekend. Pat, great chat with you, man. Thank you. Hey, you too. You're the man. John Rossi. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Hey, Johnny. Jay, great to have you here, man. Always awesome to get to chat with you on day, especially when you have a fresh new haircut from Stud Clip. Hell yeah. Yeah, Sport Clips, you're right. Hey, Sport Clips, give me that Sport Clips special. Do you want us to fade it?
Starting point is 01:30:13 Sure. Do the Sports Clip fade. We know what it is. Right to the top. Let's get that thing back. You look magnificent, A.J. Hawk. Yep, thank you. I feel magnificent after listening to old Rothstein really educate me
Starting point is 01:30:26 on what I should do in my bracket coming up, both NCAA and NIT. So I feel like I'm ahead of the curve. Well, thank you for asking him about a future NIT champion, and I do appreciate him giving us a Santa Clara or something. Santa Clara. Santa Clara. Herb Sendak's voice. Yeah, BYU below them in the conference tournament.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Could be in the NCAA. Yeah, so they've got a couple of players that are unbelievable, obviously. But, yeah, John Rothstein was amazing. It was great chatting with him. It was a really cool chat. We don't know if it was our fault or his that he came in muted, but I enjoy him immensely. And hopefully we'll get the chance to chat with him the next couple of weeks.
Starting point is 01:31:00 He doesn't sleep. No. 24-7, 365, twice on Sunday. Twice on Sunday. What does he do for CBS? When is he on TV with CBS? I think he does that. I think they just, right?
Starting point is 01:31:09 Yeah, he'll be part of their, I mean, when the tournament's on, it's on like 10 different channels. He's doing coverage on one of them. Does he do color commentary? No, no, he's a studio guy. Pundit, pundit, pundit insider. He should do color, though. He'd be great.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Or play-by-play, probably. That travel, though, man. Like, we're talking about all these potential color commentators for the NFL and who's doing that. And that's – I mean, it's not easy. I assume college is small towns, too, like where you fly into. I think for him to do what he – I think he's best suited, right, in the role that he just did there.
Starting point is 01:31:38 But I do think he would be a great color commentator. I don't know much about him. He was fantastic. He would bring a bunch of energy to the game. Like, that's why Gus Johnson, when he ncaa basketball he brings some juice to the game i know if rothstein i hear him on the mic calling a game even if i don't see him like he's going to bring some energy okay so let's talk about gus johnson and that whole thing that transpired yesterday what happened there's more or two days ago news. There's more news now. So Troy Aikman signs with ESPN to do Monday Night Football for $17.5 million per.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Congrats to Troy. Yeah, congrats, Troy. Dropping his beer, eight, in Texas. I don't know if it's everywhere, but at it, baby, Troy. Troy's living a really good life right now, as he deserves, by the way. Been around. We are fans of Troy Aikman around here. Understand people don't like them people don't like a lot of commentators because commentators
Starting point is 01:32:28 have to be the soundtrack to your worst memories in sports right so that's naturally going to happen they all hate your team because at some point your team has stunk and they've had to point it out I think that's just naturally how it goes but there are some that are a little bit more insufferable than others I personally feel that Troy has been really relatable in the booth. Now I didn't listen to the entire time I was in the league. And as a kid, I don't know if I was paying attention close enough to all the commentators. This is just strictly post-retirement who I,
Starting point is 01:32:58 anyways, I like Troy. He goes 17 and a half to Monday night football. So that he was rumored to be going to Amazon, leaving Fox, go to Amazon. Well, who's going to Amazon then? Rumors now say they did talk to John Lynch, and John Lynch inevitably said he's going
Starting point is 01:33:12 back to the Niners. So with all these names, you bring up Gus Johnson. I'm like, yo, put Gus in. Yeah. Put Gus in primetime. We will watch Gus in primetime on the NFL, and that's awesome. But you start thinking about the pieces that are going to be in place and who they're hiring and everything like that and we didn't
Starting point is 01:33:29 mention this dude's name yesterday and I I thought of it literally immediately upon us getting out of here you know Ohio guy friend of the program you know Kirk Herbstreet at ESPN right did a couple Monday Night Football games good yeah very good good and money he's been at ESPN, right? Did a couple of Monday night football games. Good. Yeah. Very good. Good. And money. He's been at ESPN for a very long time. Long, long time. College game.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Be like biggest show they got, you know, and everything like that. The college game at night. He's been doing for a long, long time. And I have not talked to Herb Street. I've not talked to Herb Street since all of this has happened. But there's another name that we should maybe throw into the the ring there for nfl commentator because i felt like he did it he was like a fish to water going to do the nfl he's very calm very calculated and i know he said he loves college football like that's what he told
Starting point is 01:34:15 because i've been trying to get him in the nfl for a long time right i mean i've been pitching him for monday night football for like hey kirk you need to fuck it what are we even doing man come to the men's league come to the men's league. Come to the men's league. I love college football. He is obsessed and loves college football. Was there a chance he was offered $17.5 million to do Monday Night Football and he said no? Do you think? I doubt he would turn that down. No way.
Starting point is 01:34:36 I wonder. He's within ESPN. If he was offered $17.5 million, what trillion of getting paid to do Monday Night Football, you would assume his love for college football would still be there but hey i'm a fan now you know like and i'm not gonna do both is it possible they could say hey we'll give you 20 more mil a year but you got to do game day and you got to still come to monday night well he can't now right because troy's gonna be the color commentator now they're looking for the play
Starting point is 01:34:58 by play but i'm just saying that signing of troy the ripple effects that's going to have everywhere is fascinating because Tony Romo gets 17, Troy gets 17 and a half. Hey, this is the new norm now. So if you're a good color commentator, like, hey, this is a good time to be a good color commentator. And what, Kirk is? Best of the best. So I don't know if college football is going to. Only the top crews, though.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Only the few top crews get that gigantic money. Well, that's what I'm saying, though. I think Kirk's one of them, right? He is 100% one of them, yeah. But now Amazon's color commentary job is open, and then Troy's job with Joe is open at Fox. There's reports. Well, and then maybe Joe is out, too, because he's only got one more year left.
Starting point is 01:35:41 There was reports today that Sean Payton might be offered that Fox one. Fox color commentator job. They just don't know. I think Sean Payton will be great most likely, but they don't know. He hasn't done it. Michael McCarthy at M. McCarthy Rev. Breaking Sean Payton negotiating with Fox Sports. The former Super Bowl winning New Orleans Saints coach could potentially succeed.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Troy Aikman as network's number one game analyst alongside Joe Buck. I assume Joe and Sean have a good relationship this is why this was broached but also Sean just retired very very successful you remember his retirement press conference was an hour and a half long him just shooting the shit I think he's a very good speaker I think he knows the game obviously inside and out his resume is filthy he'd be great for that gig but is he is his okay now we got to think is his team potentially floating information that he's negotiating with fox to be the number one because amazon's gig is also open out there and if that's the case if we're going to get sean
Starting point is 01:36:36 payton in the booth excited about it there's also rumors tom brady is being sought after to be a color analyst color commentator by amazon and Fox now trying to figure it out. So we know that John Lynch was brought in for an interview by Amazon to potentially be the color commentator for them Thursday night football. John Lynch ultimately decided he was going to go back and be with the Niners. Then, obviously, Troy's name was attached to it. Al Michael's name was attached to it. Nothing has been officialized. Now Sean Payton's name is leaking out for the Fox gig.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Tom's name is leaking out for both. It'd be cool to hear them both, but what if neither of them want to do it? I'm excited to see how these kind of roles get filled. For Sean Payton, if you're one of these networks, because he had his press conference, but it wasn't exactly like I'm never coaching again. If the Dallas Cowboys job opens up for a coach in a year or two, are you giving Sean this job as an announcer,
Starting point is 01:37:28 your number one announcer for a year, thinking maybe he could leave and go back to coaching in a year? Well, and then also Joe Buck's only on one year too, right? He'd still be in the game. Still something you do this. Maybe. But no, we don't know what's true. They want to make a splash hire though.
Starting point is 01:37:41 And Sean Payton absolutely would make some noise if Fox hired him for Troy's job. Tom Brady would would be us yeah does tom have any like he's making that move he's making that movie where he is producing and starring in it i think it's 80 for brady or something what's it about cross-country trip yeah for uh i believe elderly women are going to see the 2016 season super bowl which was in 2017 against the Falcons, and Brady's playing himself, so I assume there's some interaction between the two groups.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Is it based on true story? Sounds like it. Probably. I mean, I'm sure there were four elderly women who went cross-country to see that Super Bowl. Was that the same? What's that? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Wouldn't you rather them do a movie or a docuseries on that one allegedly crazy lady that drove cross-country in a diaper to go get to her mistress? Okay. I mean, there's a lot of movies that could be made. I love Tom Brady. She had weapons in the back and she put a diaper on and drove cross-country because she didn't want to have to stop
Starting point is 01:38:38 to go to the bathroom to get to the dude she was with who was married, I believe. Is this Tom Brady? I think she was an astronaut. It's real. Is this Tom Brady? No, she was an astronaut. It's real. Is this Tom Brady? No, but when you said the four elderly ladies driving cross-country, boom, that popped in my brain. Well, thank you. Keep that beautiful brain going, honestly.
Starting point is 01:38:54 It would be a good movie, though. There's a lot of great stories. That sounds like an incredible one, by the way. I'm surprised it hasn't been a documentary already. Why don't you do that? I'm going to set up a meeting somewhere. All right, perfect. There you go.
Starting point is 01:39:03 I set up a meeting to set up a meeting. Bingo. You know what I mean? That's all meetings are. Let's talk about what our next meeting is going to be. Yeah, but that next meeting, hey, we're going to get closer. That's the one. We're going to get closer.
Starting point is 01:39:16 But the synopsis of 80 for Brady is, I have a friend who works in Hollywood. Oh, this is all right. This is an anonymous source. This was sent to the show. Okay. I think it was Zito. I'm not 100% sure
Starting point is 01:39:27 who got this inside information. But I have a friend who works in Hollywood and will be the associate director for 80 for Brady. It's a movie about four ladies who have gone to the Super Bowl every year
Starting point is 01:39:38 and their last one is the Super Bowl where the Bucs win. Okay, so 2016 would happen, I guess. Yeah, that's just from the New, so 2016 would happen, I guess. That's just from the New York Post or Hollywood Reporter article I read. Is that the one where, which one did his jersey get stolen? That was...
Starting point is 01:39:55 Not Tampa. No, not Tampa. I thought it was in Atlanta, but it was the jersey from the Seahawks Super Bowl. So whatever it's from, I wonder if these ladies help. Oh, like an Ocean these ladies help. Oh. Like an Ocean's 8 situation.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Oh, yeah. Maybe there's 80 ladies. We're all fighting for Brady's jersey. With diapers on. Wow. That's a different story. Are they 80 years old? Is that what that is?
Starting point is 01:40:18 Could be. I'm 80. It is based on a true story, but we all know it won't be as good as American Underdog. No. Well, that goes without being said. I still don't know. I still don't know if it's good or not. What is the deal?
Starting point is 01:40:29 It's good. It's incredible. What is your problem, you guys? It is. Foxy, they are so full of shit. I can't even take it. I think so too. There's no chance they're telling the truth. The issue is, I thought the movie was good. We're not saying the movie's probably going to be bad.
Starting point is 01:40:45 That's not what we were saying. What we were saying was these two humans, Ty and Nick, are not acting like themselves at all whenever they speak about this particular movie. That's how good it was. And it does have a 98 audience score. Bingo. Proof's in the pudding, my friends.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Proof is in the pudding. Give it an Oscar. Why did you guys do it? All of you. Why did you guys call me on vacation? You guys were bored as fuck. Did Foxy see it? Let's fucking stir something up. We're going to say the Kurt Warner movie is awesome. Dude, they said they watched it the same night on vacation.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Yeah, exactly. They watched it in a Zoom. They watched it in a Zoom. No, Nick texted me the following day and said, dude, you've got to watch the Kurt Warner movie. I said, you know what? I actually did last night. It was almost like
Starting point is 01:41:27 a moment in time. It's incredible. It really is. Nick, did that give you the inspiration to get engaged after you watched this? No, no, no. That already happened. I'd actually drank a bottle of champagne that Pat and his lady had sent over and then another one that came complimentary with the pool cabana
Starting point is 01:41:44 and then got all boozed up, the uh pool cabana uh and then got all boozed up went up to the room watched this movie phenomenal so you don't know what you watched this guy's blacked out drunk yeah and you we know you're blacked out you guys didn't watch the movie but that's but that was normal state for those two so it's they did watch i watched every second of that film i loved it and yes i was pretty tuned up while I was watching it. But it was phenomenal. It was unbelievable. You made it through the entire movie?
Starting point is 01:42:11 Yeah. You didn't fall asleep once? Nope. Fall asleep? What room? On the edge of the bed? What room? Where were you?
Starting point is 01:42:18 I don't know what's real. Yeah, I don't believe it. Were you in a hotel? I'm going to watch it. I'm going to love it. I'm happy it's good. You're a good question, AJ. Where did you guys watch this?
Starting point is 01:42:26 I was at a resort, and it was only $20.99. I said, hey, this is cheaper than going to get a couple. Only $15.99 for me. Unbelievable. See, there's no way. When you're lying, you give too many details. That's the thing. You give extra details when you lie.
Starting point is 01:42:39 You paid $21 for this, and you loved it. Oh, yeah. That is not a Ty Schmitt thing at all. That shows you how good it is. Loved every you loved it. Oh, yeah. That is not a Ty Schmitt thing at all. That shows you how good it is. Loved every second of it. If you were to get a can of chaw and it didn't have the same amount of tobacco as some other thing,
Starting point is 01:42:53 you'd be pissed that you spent six bucks on that or whatever. Without a doubt. You're saying 21 bucks, American Underdog, best movie you've ever seen. Yeah, best 20. After I watched it,
Starting point is 01:43:03 I was like, shit, that should have been $49.99 boom I almost felt bad you got him I wanted to find out no no
Starting point is 01:43:09 no no I'm serious it was incredible that's bullshit now he wants us to spend 21 bucks no we're not we have to wait
Starting point is 01:43:17 you know hey it's fine because when the blu-ray comes out the collector's edition I will be buying it and I'll just let you leave
Starting point is 01:43:22 he's lying I don't believe you for a second. Look out for some stocking stuffers, boys. No way. That'd be awesome. So Kurt, when he came on the show before he went on air, I said, hey, man, I haven't seen the movie. He said, you haven't seen it?
Starting point is 01:43:36 And I said, I haven't seen it, but I'm planning on watching it, man. You know, the off season, I'm going to watch it or whatever. He goes, OK, OK. I said, I heard it was good, though. He goes, yeah, yeah. He shakes my hand and he sits down. I down I was like oh this could be a terrible conversation like I probably shouldn't have said that I should have just you know I watched the movie it was
Starting point is 01:43:51 awesome but I just couldn't help it because I didn't know if he was going to potentially think about firing some questions at me from the movie like hey whenever they did the blah blah blah that was actually my wife's idea and I didn't want to get stuck in a oh really it's not about you know so i just wanted to it was almost like my guilty conscience was like hey i didn't see your movie everybody told me to i was probably supposed to before this interview too by the way i appreciate that but i did not see it and at that time remember i was pumped to watch it yeah i love good stories i like good i love everything about it and kurt has been nice to us so i was pumped to watch it. I love good stories. I like good. I love everything about it. And Kurt has been nice to us, so I was pumped to see it. Kurt's the man.
Starting point is 01:44:27 No matter what's going on, whether Ty and Nick are lying or not, Kurt is an awesome individual. Awesome man. I know he's awesome. I watched the movie. Marshall Falk said he was incredible. Everybody has said he's awesome. He's been good to us every time he's come on this show.
Starting point is 01:44:40 So I will watch this, and I had high hopes for it. But the movie critics, Ty, Nick, probably AJ, like, I will watch this. And I had high hopes for it. But the movie critics, Ty, Nick, probably AJ, everybody, this movie is going to be the fucking worst movie of all time. Then they watch the trailer. They watch the trailer. Did you see that fucking Mickey Mouse trailer? This movie is going to be an embarrassment to the NFL. These were the things that these guys were saying.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Now, all of a sudden, we're supposed to believe they get all boozed up at Cabana's, watch this thing, and they're dead straight-faced Blu-ray buying it, need a limited edition. That's what we're saying. We think these two are completely full of shit is the problem that we're dealing with. Listen, I didn't think I could be won over. I did say all those things after I saw the trailer. I said, this thing is going to fucking stink.
Starting point is 01:45:22 I'm an Iowa guy. Warner's an Iowa guy. There's a lot of ties there. He played at UNI. That's right up the road for me. I watched the movie. I'm like, you know what? This was incredible.
Starting point is 01:45:31 I feel terrible that I ever said anything bad. Kurt's a Hall of Fame human being as well. We'll watch a lot of UNI. Exactly. AJ, what? What? Is this taken from the movie or is this an SNL sketch? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:45:47 That's exactly what we're talking about. You said the same thing. It's a still shot. Why is he holding that thing? You should see the way he slings the pill. Hold on. There's no way. I know you're falling shit, dude.
Starting point is 01:46:04 It's the worst movie ever. No, it's not. I can't wait for the vindication. I know. The vindication from you guys. You guys. Yeah, I can't wait for you guys to watch. Listen, it looks good.
Starting point is 01:46:17 It looks awesome. I can't wait to see it. I'm going to watch it this weekend. Well, unless war's on. War will be on. I think war will be on. How do you not watch that? Dude, right?
Starting point is 01:46:28 Everybody's doing that. It's tough, yeah. Everybody's watching that right now? Oh, yeah. Put this one up, please. Look at that. Holy shit. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:46:36 I mean, the guy does kind of look like him, and he's tall. Throws the pigskin like him, too. He's hucking that thing around. Look how Kurt's holding the ball, and look at that other still shot. He clearly didn't learn his idea. You think Kurt wasn't on? Guy's an actor, dude. All right?ucking that thing around. Look how Kurt's holding the ball. Look at that other still shot. He clearly didn't learn. You think Kurt wasn't on set? Guy's an actor, dude. That's definitely a stadium from that picture, right?
Starting point is 01:46:52 That they were filming? This one here? No, no, that right there. That's definitely a full, like, real stadium. Yeah, dude. It's movies, dude. It's Hollywood, alright? High school stadium. Anyways, let's give away $58,000. Hell yeah! What's that?
Starting point is 01:47:06 Just me, huh? That was just Connor. I didn't say anything. I was the only one who said stuff. Everyone else. You were excited, but AJ said, all right. Yeah, both of them went down. No, no, I meant to say, all right, that's good.
Starting point is 01:47:16 That's awesome. So the boys, how many games did they win? Yeah, so they won the final. 58%. I know Gumpy won like 14 and 7 or something. He made 21 picks. And I don't know if that was a strategy that they enjoyed because the percentage, you know, probably not going to go 100, but less likely to go 10 if we put a bunch of picks in there.
Starting point is 01:47:38 He went 14 and 7. That's a hell of a pick. That a baby Gumpy. 22 and 16 was the total. Okay. Pretty good. 58. Pretty good. There you go, boys. 58%.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Pretty good. And I said this earlier, AJ, that was the first time their record was going to be displayed to everybody and it actually affected people's pockets. So we've talked for months and months, years at this point now, that, hey, these dudes somehow win all the time. Imagine we come in and it's all a $10,000 giveaway, because we got 10% right.
Starting point is 01:48:04 I don't know if the boys even knew that that was potential. No, I started 0-4. Nick and Diggs texted me and said, I hope your games are going well. We're in a bad spot. Oh, so you guys were grinders at the end. And then about 11.30 p.m., I messaged back. I said, I got this thing, boys. I'll take us home.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Yeah, baby. That's good team betting over there. It was honestly the first night that I didn't give a shit if we didn't win one game. Why is that? Tony. Tony. We're getting fielded Friday. You don't care about the people?
Starting point is 01:48:32 Come on. Money away. Audience meters. I even tried stacking the deck. I went with heavy favorites, talking minus 300, minus 400 odds. Both those teams end up losing. Wait, which two teams are those? The fucking Penguins and the fucking Florida Panthers.
Starting point is 01:48:47 You know what I'm saying? Penguins lost to the New Jersey Devils. I didn't know that until right now. How about that? Well, the fucking Bruins cost me money, too, because they were supposed to win regulation. They went to overtime with the fucking Kraken. And they won.
Starting point is 01:49:02 The Penguins lost 6-1, I think. Was that last time? Yeah, lost. Cement in the skates, refrigerators on theuins lost 6-1, I think. Was it? Was that last time? Yeah, a lot of cement in the skates, refrigerators on the back. The boys were stuck in mud. Doc walked. My God. The Penguins season might be over. It's over.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Jesus. They're minus 300 to win. Yikes. They lose 6-1? What the fuck is going on in Pittsburgh? Uh-oh. Didn't show up. Took the night off.
Starting point is 01:49:23 Worst team in the league. They were worried about more important things. Okay. What's that? What? Okay. The ghost. Fucking Capitals, man.
Starting point is 01:49:32 What are you talking about? The ghost of Kiev. Have you heard about this, dude? Oh, yeah. Is that real? Has it been confirmed? No. Well, Tony's confirmed it 10 different times because I believe he wants to.
Starting point is 01:49:43 And I think this is a great wartime story. Dose is a dogfighter up there who just... He's looking to have the first undefeated season in the history of war. 6-7-0 in dogfights. He took down, what, six planes within the first day? Yes.
Starting point is 01:49:59 That's pretty good. There's not a whole lot of dogfighting going on around the world these days. For him to do that in one day is pretty good. What, in the last 30 years, probably? I don't know when dogfighting was. What about Snake Island? There's 13 dudes whole lot of dogfighting going on around the world these days. For him to do that in one day is pretty good. What, in the last 30 years, probably? I don't know when dogfighting was. What about Snake Island? There's 13 dudes on Snake Island, too. I'll tell you what. They did go down.
Starting point is 01:50:12 And the president said, we will go down facing, not our backs or whatever. Snake Island, hey, go fuck yourselves, dude. Yeah. All right. They were kind of in a... They were screwed. They were done either way. Hey, listen, I don't know much about war,
Starting point is 01:50:26 but I've been seeing a lot of it in my pocket and on TV. This is wild, man. It's wild. I hope it ends soon. I obviously hope everybody's okay. Let's talk about hashtag PMS Feel Good Friday 2022. Okay. Okay, this is the first week of the 2022 NFL season.
Starting point is 01:50:45 It is coming to an end. I have absolutely loved this week. Started with Aaron on Tuesday, coming on, talking about the PK cleanse. Yeah. Then we had news break. We had conversations made and it was a glorious,
Starting point is 01:50:56 glorious first four days back after a vacation. That was probably too long, but the boys certainly deserve it. Shout out to you guys. Wrapping up this week. Hasht to you guys. Shout out to you, Pat. Wrapping up this week, hashtag PMS, Feel Good Friday 2022. What you need to do is go ahead and tweet a picture, a screenshot right now. Screenshot right now.
Starting point is 01:51:19 Okay. Okay. That's fake, by the way. That title is fake. This is real. Oh, is it? That's a fake one. Yeah. Yeah, it's a fake one the way. That title is fake. This is real. Oh, is it? That's a fake one. Yeah, it's a fake one. It's a fake one.
Starting point is 01:51:28 This thing is three times as heavy as yours. No. You saw how hard it was to get on. That's not true. No, I saw you acting. Mine is... You hear that? Wow.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Holy shit. Wow, boom. You just said you can't say that. Screenshot that. Post it at Cash App with your cash tag, and then just say something nice to somebody. Okay, say something nice to somebody and at them. It doesn't have to be any of us.
Starting point is 01:51:52 It can be somebody. Just say something nice to somebody. Hashtag PMS Feel Good Friday 2022. That screenshot from moments ago at Cash App your cash tag say something nice to somebody and feel free to add them the world is wild the world is crazy
Starting point is 01:52:10 we are very thankful and lucky for everything in our lives and the fact that we get to do this the only reason why we can do this is because people like you watch and we love you so so much $58,000 up for grabs because they hit 58% last night
Starting point is 01:52:24 on Hammered Down congrats boys well done boys we have five $58,000 up for grabs because they hit 58% last night on Hammered Down. Congrats boys. Well done boys. We have five $10,000 winners then $8,000 winners. Enter on Twitter. We appreciate you so much. We have to get to a break. I'll be gone. I'm flying to Hershey. The boys shall take you home.
Starting point is 01:52:40 You all are the greatest humans of all time. Thank you to all of our guests. Thank you to all of the boys. It's been great being back in here with all the earlier. Thank you to everybody. You're the best. See you on Monday I actually died smackdown big things popping off Hershey, Pennsylvania. See on Monday. You're the best humans of all time Cheers សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. ប្រូវប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប៶ប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្វាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីបានប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you.

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