The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 604 - Ian Rapoport, Jon Rothstein, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: February 25, 2022On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the new narratives floating around about how Aaron Rodgers wants to become the highest paid player in the NFL "by a wide margin," how narratives ...get created within the sports media world, Russell Wilson removing everything related to the Seahawks on his Twitter and Instagram, what Troy Aikman going to ESPN means for a bunch of other networks, and more. Joining the show to get us up to date on everything pertaining to Aaron Rodgers, which veteran QB's might go where, how his ski trip is going, and more (24:00-45:58). Later, CBS College Basketball Insider, FanDuel contributor, someone who knows more about college basketball than possibly anybody on the planet, the man who sleeps in May, Jon Rothstein joins the progrum to preview March Madness, who we should be looking to place bets on, when he knew he wanted to talk about nothing other than college basketball, and more (1:03:11-1:29:56). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, beautiful people.
It is Feel Good Friday, February 25th, 2022.
And this dumbass show shall begin right now.
Really catching up after the week off that we had.
It is fantastic to be here.
Thank you all for watching at youtube.com forward slash
the Pat McAfee show.
Big day, big day.
We've got a $58,000 giveaway.
That's right.
Yesterday we announced we'd have a Feel Good Friday giveaway.
We didn't know how to determine the amount of money we'd give away,
so we decided that whatever percentage hammer Don went last night
is the amount of thousands we'd give away.
They won 58%.
How about that?
How about that?
Shout out to the Canadiens.
At Tone Diggs and at Bubba Gumpino and PMI Mitt, you know, came through in a beautiful fashion.
58% not bad.
I mean, it's above average, obviously, in the gambling world.
53 is what you need to win.
Bingo.
So there we go.
5% higher.
There we go.
We go five points higher than the average.
Any shoot would say that.
But boy, that could have got ugly.
I mean, we made the announcement.
We made the decision.
We put it out there.
And now their results are determining how happy fans in a giveaway is.
Yeah, that's right.
And we've been saying for like a year now at this point,
hey, this group wins somehow.
They do all the things you're not supposed to do to the gambling
gods. They get on microphones and they project
loud as they can,
screaming at the top of their lungs at Radio Row.
Yeah, that's right. With cowboy hats on
and such. This is what we're betting
on tonight. And they've been winning
and winning and winning and winning and winning
and winning. And then all of a sudden we do a
Feel Good Friday giveaway, depending upon how they
do. What if we would only be able to give away
like $10,000? Oh, that wouldn't have been
good. Oh my god, I might have had to end the show.
Would not have been good. Happy you guys
are above the 53%
standpoint, but also, would have been
sweet to go $80,000. Would have been pricey for the company.
I appreciate you guys not doing that. You're welcome.
I appreciate you guys looking out for the good of the company
there. $58,000 seems right. We're going to
give away $50,000. You're like, you know what?
We'll be the heroes.
We'll raise it 8,000.
That's right.
Wow.
So we'll announce that giveaway at some point today.
We can't thank you enough for being here.
The Talks Table is always looking fresh and fantastic.
At Boston Corner, obviously, with a smack.
Done!
I head there tonight.
First time in like three, four weeks.
Oh, here we go.
Yeah.
Where's it at?
Hershey, Pennsylvania, dude. Here we go. The home Oh, here we go. Where's it at? Hershey, Pennsylvania, dude.
Here we go. The home of Christian Pulisic.
And Hershey. And in
general, chocolate. Squirts and
stuff. Pretty sweet. Should be a blast. There's
going to be a lot of folks there, I think. You know, I don't know how
far of a drive that is from Pittsburgh. I think some
people are making the trip. I think there's some other stuff. Should be
a fun night. Great to be back. Thank you for wearing that
shirt and all. It looks fantastic. But let's talk about
the fucking fashion icon. Yeah. Sitting next to you right now ty schmidt obviously in the
all denim today rocking the boot nikes uh what is the big occasion the john deere shirt only comes
out for big time things what is it today you know i was flipping through the internet last night and
i saw a uh a nice nice deer product that I was thinking about maybe buying
because I got some work I'm going to have to do in my backyard here.
So I was going through looking at gator prices and just kind of reminding
myself that nothing runs like a deer.
I opened my closet up this morning.
I said, fuck it.
Times like these, nothing runs like a deer.
Nothing's as reliable as a deer.
I got to put the deer jacket on.
Ty has to have a side deal with the deer, right?
I win.
That promo that you just got right there,
he just got a free zero turn probably.
Is that where it looks?
No, no.
I'd love one.
I'd love one.
Or a gator.
That's the end game.
That's the end game.
Yeah, I just, you know, when times call for it,
when times get tough, this thing kind of just, it somehow peeps out a little bit more.
I said, fuck it, give me the deer sweater.
I'm going today.
You look amazing.
Thank you.
Normally you wear sweats and dress like a jackass.
Sweatshirt.
Normally, yeah.
Normally you dress like a 15-year-old going to a high school class or maybe a college kid.
You like to be comfortable, and it doesn't matter because that brain and the mouth are so good.
You can dress however the hell you want.
You've been to some places dressed like a jackass.
Oh, yeah.
You kidding me?
Speaker's balcony.
Wearing sweatpants and sweatshirts.
This is coming from a guy that wears tank tops, all right?
But I'm just saying, like, I understand that.
Whenever I saw you today all dressed up, I'm like,
it must be a big day, and thank you for that for this feel-good Friday.
You bet.
Got to do it sometimes.
Shout-out to John Deere, by the way. Shout-out to John Deere. Nothing runs like a deer. be a big day. And thank you for that for this feel-good Friday. You bet. Got to do it sometimes. Shout out to John Deere, buddy.
Shout out to John Deere.
Nothing runs like a Deere.
Shout out to the boys in the back.
It's been a hell of a week.
I had Nick Marotta.
They had John Hamm on Hockey Talk.
Make sure we enjoy that.
That's good news.
What a guy.
What a guy.
Incredible guy.
Put me in the column of John Hamm's coolest dude on earth.
That's right.
He was awesome.
Unbelievable.
Loves the hockey. Very
knowledgeable. And the Celtics.
And the Tide. And the Tide.
And the Tide, too, which he would do. Ben Affleck.
Yeah, get on it, Ben. Well, Ben's got a lot going
on. He does. That's true. J-Lo's
ruin is ruining
the Tide, too. Yeah. Well, man, I mean,
love. I mean, what do you want? Life matters, too.
Aviva Lozito is here, always spinning
plates, looking fantastic. Adam Foxy and, you know know one half of the hammered down cowboys gumpy looks
probably the coolest i've ever seen him look yeah great look how do you feel gump you feel alive in
that this uh this la hat really hit in la i feel like i need to eat a little bit more seeing it
sitting on the floor this morning i said you're coming with me today friend hey congrats hat
it's feel good friday you're back you're fucking back hey good, friend. Hey, congrats, Hat. It's Feel Good Friday. You're back. You're fucking back.
Hey, good for the hat.
Good for you.
That's it, Gopi.
Congrats, Hat and Gopi.
You know, it's a crazy time to be alive.
Sure.
Yeah.
We have war in our pocket.
You know, you open your phone
and there's literally a war happening
that's happening in real time on your phone.
And it feels like, you know, 2022,
how does this happen?
And I think just like everybody else,
I'm rather distraught about
everything going on. I think like last night,
my wife and I just sat there flipping through all
the different political channels. And just like I said
yesterday, I'm looking for one of them to be like,
yeah, everything's all right. But still
same thing. And then everybody's message
is basically like, hey, this is only going to get worse.
This is only going to get worse. How long? Who knows?
But I want everybody to know, we'll continue to be a dumbass of course as long as you will have us
we are lucky to be here a distraction a whatever you need right now though i would like to dive
into something that happens in media uh-huh and i would assume it happens in real media i'm just
going to say the sports media world because that's where I live. So yesterday, a person who
we are a massive fan of,
have to
get that out right
now.
Friend of the program.
Big fan.
Diana Rossini a couple days ago
reported that league sources
are telling her that this decision with the Packers
will be soon. That followed up Aaron telling us basically like, hey, my decision will be coming soon.
So now her sources around the league are telling her,
and then the source himself is telling basically everybody,
hey, this is going to wrap up pretty quickly, which is fantastic.
So Rich Eisen had Diana Rossini on to hear what else she is hearing
from around the league, league sources.
Anonymous league sources.
And the league is large.
The league is very, very large.
A lot of people.
Once again, Diana Rossini, very plugged in.
So let's assume this is coming from somebody that is notable in the league.
Although other people who source league sources could be sourcing a janitor that works in an NFL building because
that is somebody that is in the NFL. Now, granted, league sources you'd hope would be a scout or a
coach or somebody of importance. But anytime you put anonymous in front of it, you can't bank on
that being the case because it's might and probably not the case. So Diana Rossini went on Rich Eyes
yesterday to explain further about what she's hearing from league sources,
and this is what she told our friend Rich.
Yeah, it would make a lot of sense for him to protect himself
to see what the Green Bay Packers are going to be willing to pay him
because from the conversations I've had with a lot of people in the league,
he wants to be the highest paid player in the NFL by a wide margin.
So we're talking about $50 million a year.
And we know the cap situation the Green Bay Packers are in.
We know Devontae Adams needs to get paid.
So there's a lot on the table.
And speaking of tables,
there's also multiple teams that are waiting to see what happens here
because they are hoping and willing to make a trade for him.
That's a large chunk of the pie right there, 50 mil a year.
Okay, so there is the league sources.
By the way, the league sources could be from teams that their fan bases might be like, hey, are we thinking about getting Aaron Rodgers?
And that source could be from that team to tell Diana Rossini.
Not saying Diana Rossini is making it.
We have high respect for Diana Rossini.
Love Diana.
Diana Rossini got us for like two months of like the World Stoppage.
Have that.
But you have to think about why would league source, anonymous League source, tell Diana that information?
Well, maybe it's a team trying to save their ass
and saying, well, 50 million.
Our fans wouldn't expect us to pay him 50 million,
so there's no reason for them to expect us to go get him.
Let's get in front of this now.
Maybe that is why they're leaking that potential information.
Do they know if that information is true?
Were they told that information from somebody else
that was maybe covering their ass?
Maybe.
That's potentially the case.
But we don't know because nobody really has a Packers source with a name on it that says that is true or not true.
So then that comment leads to, obviously, because it's Aaron Rodgers,
and I know people that watch this show send me tweets that they hate that we talk about Aaron Rodgers as much.
It's the back-to-back MVP of the league that we cover.
So, I mean, it's a situation we're going to have to talk about.
And we're not the only ones, by the way.
All of sports media talks about Aaron Rodgers because Aaron Rodgers, for a long time, was an enigma.
We got a chance to chat about him.
He has become a thing, and he's a back-to-back fucking MVP.
And his future, we don't know about. So this morning, it just became a full-on take-quick about how Aaron Rodgers is now asking for $50 million.
There's no alleged that he's asking for $50 million.
There's no thought of, hey, you know, like, this might have been bullshit to, not Diana, the source telling Diana, which is something that happens.
So then you start going around the internet, right? Greg Jennings this morning want bananas
on first things first. He says, Aaron Rodgers has been a very selfish guy. I go back to personal
experiences. His words to me were, don't be that guy. All of a sudden it's about the money. Greg
Jennings on reports that Rodgers wants to be the NFL's
highest paid player, which by the way,
we don't know if that report is real or not.
That's just an alleged source, but that leads
to all morning talk
about Aaron Rodgers being a selfish
guy. Greg Jennings goes on a
four minute run
that Nick Wright is prodding
out of him to tell terrible
stories about Aaron Rodgers that maybe make.
Listen, Greg and Aaron have their own relationship. I don't know it. I don't know, Greg.
They do that. But it becomes a four minute thing about how Aaron is a selfish prick.
He wants his money and he also wants to win. He's been holding him hostage.
This is why there's information. Has he ever won out of January, February?
This is Greg Jennings saying all these things. And then at the end, Greg Jennings tells a story about how Aaron went up to him one time.
Don't be that guy where you get paid and then you try to go get more money, renegotiate your contract because you're doing that.
And now he's being that guy.
And it's all like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, in the background from Nick Wright and the other hosts and everything like that.
And once again, this is all from an anonymous league source.
This happens.
That leads to that clip, because it's this is all from an anonymous league source. This happens.
That leads to that clip, because it's good internet,
being put onto the internet, okay?
And if you look at the reaction of that,
now there's people quote tweeting this tweet that they put out.
Peter Bukowski, who covers the Green Bay Packers.
Packers fans love to get mad at Greg Jennings, but he's right about the disconnect between Rodgers wanting $50 million
and wanting to keep key guys like Adams.
Okay, so he has big-time following, by the way.
34,000 Packers fans follow him.
So that's a lot of fans, obviously, on the Internet.
If he wants his $50 million, we don't know if he wants $50 million.
Peter Bukowski quote-tweeted Greg Jennings burying Aaron Rodgers
from a source that was from around the league yesterday
anonymously on Rich Eisen's show.
He's not the only one that quote tweets this, obviously.
Nick Wright, the host of the show, quote tweets this to amplify this.
And Nick Wright in the middle of the whole thing, can you tell me that personal story
about how terrible of a person he is because we have the opportunity to do that right now
because there's an anonymous source that said something that we have no idea if it's true
or not so that leads ultimately to packers fans and fans in general having an opinion about aaron rogers
greg here at pac-man gdi has like 2 000 followers i checked him out i assume he's just a packers fan
at pac-man i back greg jennings on this 100 aaron rogers is a prime example of wanting to have your
cake and eat it too okay so the
narrative that they wanted to build worked right I don't know Pac-Man probably hasn't liked Aaron
at all uh for a long time but whenever you're hearing these terrible things about somebody
you can easily see oh I fucking hate this guy with that being said I understand people are
going to say that I go to bat for Aaron because he's a friend of mine I do but for a long time
narratives like this have just gone unchecked about this dude.
And everybody has kind of let the snowball, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, prima donna
fucking asshole, arrogant, standoffish prick has become down there.
And we try to stop it.
So I, and he doesn't need us to go to bat for him, by the way.
No.
He's made hundreds of millions of dollars.
Right.
He's a very successful person.
He has business ventures.
He does his thing. And, you know, he will poop and puke at the same time make his body feel bad that's right
so i just thought you know has anybody just thought about like maybe just asking him
so i text him that's not true yeah so like all of that stuff this morning about ruining him
and i don't normally do this by the way i don't i wouldn't normally text a ruining him. And I don't normally do this, by the way.
I wouldn't normally text Aaron.
I don't think we're that, like, I don't want to interrupt his life.
We obviously get along.
We're obviously friendly with each other.
But, like, every single report I'm not going to do, I send him,
hey, man, reports whether you want to be the highest paid player by a wide margin,
whatever, is that the thing that you are currently, like, stumping for?
Like, is that what's going on right now?
And categorically false is what I was.
And it's just insane to think about that the amount of fans
that heard Greg Jennings, former teammate, bring up all these.
By the way, Greg Jennings and Aaron, they can figure out.
I'm not getting in the middle of that.
But the entire narrative of it all is already run,
and it's a whole cycle almost on the internet,
and it just feeds to the fact that this guy's a fucking asshole.
He might be, but I don't know.
He talks to us for like an hour every single week during the season.
I feel like we've learned a lot about him.
A lot of people that are, you know, like four-time MVPs
might have a little asshole in them every once in a while,
but I don't think the narrative about all this is anywhere near accurate
just strictly because of what I was told from my source,
and it just doesn't make any sense to me.
This is how it's always been, though, with him, right?
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, divisive, obviously, and then you expect,
especially now with all the stuff that's happened
and the will-they-won't-they, it's been a couple off-seasons now,
you know exactly what you're doing when this comes up.
The fan base, I don't want to say it's divided
because it's not.
I think much more people want him back than not.
But, like, you will see after this, like, a lot more people saying, like,
you know what, they're right.
He is an asshole.
Greg Jennings is, and whatever.
Can't afford him.
Yeah, exactly.
And, by the way, that league source was probably telling Diana that
from another team that was probably being, their fan base was wondering
if they were going to, well, it just gives you an easy,
I can't pay somebody. You want to pay a quarterback $50 million? I don't care well it just gives you an easy i can't pay somebody you want to pay a quarterback 50 million dollars i don't
care who the fucking quarterback is you can't pay him 50 million dollars like that's an easy thing
to spin and it almost like that thing is just gone yeah before it even gets talked about because
they just took it as you know truth 100 and obviously when you see greg jennings going on
there like i think it's almost like take it with a grain of salt because they knew that
this is what he was going to do.
Like,
this is exactly in terms of,
you know,
to your point about the media,
like building a narrative,
like you don't see James.
I'm granted.
He works for NFL network,
but like James Jones,
a guy who has been on Aaron's side and was a teammate of his and has never
had a bad thing to say.
Like,
they're not asking him about this.
You know what I mean?
AJ.
Yeah.
He'll get asked today.
Exactly.
So it just by us, AJ, we're going gonna ask by us today about this but that was it was very
interesting to me because i'm like oh this is this is how they do it like it was like right in front
of our face almost because i got a lot of people tweeting me about uh you know how's your little
asshole friend blah blah blah any by the way maybe he's lying to us every single tuesday maybe he's
lying to us in the whole thing or maybe the anonymous source was saying it just to cover their own ass what's up tom well here's
the best slash worst part the people who liked what jennings was saying will then hear you say
that you texted aaron rogers and aaron rogers said that's not true at all but they'll they'll
come up with something and say that he's either lying to you or why would he tell you the truth or whatever like that.
It's whatever their narrative is.
Well, they're painting it as like that's the only reason why he did any of this
is because he wanted the most money.
It's like I don't think that has been the case at all.
Unless he is an incredible, like just an absolutely –
he might get $50 million.
I'm not saying he's not going to get $50 million.
But the – or whatever the hell he's going to get.
I mean, if you do actual finances for how much he's probably worth
at Green Bay Packers with jerseys sold and marketing and everything like that,
and we don't have to get into that entire game,
especially because you're in a salary cap league
in which you've got to build a team.
So that is an asinine thing to do.
But he might get – I have no idea what he's going to actually get.
He might get that.
That might be what his people are looking for.
He'd be worth it, obviously, whenever you think about that.
But to act as if this is what he's been.
Hey, this is what he's been.
This is what he wants.
This is what he wants, man.
He wants to be the highest paid player by a wide margin.
That's it.
I don't think that is what he's only looking for.
Obviously, business has to happen.
But I don't think that's his main narrative, just strictly because I asked. And he said no. So I don't think that is what he's only looking for. Obviously, business has to happen, but I don't think that's his main narrative,
just strictly because I asked, and he said no.
So I don't know.
He might have lied to me, though.
What the fuck do I know?
There's no way.
I mean, Ty said this from the beginning, though.
He's a polarizing figure.
You're either going to hate him or you're going to like him.
And obviously, at this point,
the people who hear this from Greg Jennings and Diana Rossini,
it's just more so of a back to their thoughts.
Once again, not from Rossini.
Not from Rossini.
Rossini's source.
Rossini's source, which also is a massive problem that if you hear league source,
you can take that as gospel.
It's like Wikipedia on a paper.
If you're turning it in, that's a source.
You can't do that.
And you've talked about this.
There shouldn't be anonymous sources in the NFLfl like put your stamp on it or something listen i get attacked by the
actual media people whenever uh i say that because protection you don't get it of course you don't
understand uh you know people having to have jobs and relationships and networking while still
wanting to make the world a better place that's what i get told every time because i've been asked
numerous times to go,
you know,
Hey,
were you anonymous off the record?
Blah,
blah,
blah.
Will you take this anonymous quiz or whatever?
And I've always just been too big of an idiot or too much pride.
I'm like,
no,
everything I vote on and everything I talk about,
uh,
I would like that people to know it's me.
Yeah.
I'd like people to know,
Hey,
Pat McAfee did that,
said that because they either hate it or love it.
I think it's going to be good probably. So I'd like credit for it. But also like people to know, hey, Pat McAfee said that. Because they either hate it or love it. I think it's going to be good, probably, so I'd like credit for it.
But also, if they hate it, I think they should at least know where it's coming from.
But in the real world, anonymous sources, obviously much more needed, I think, right?
Because actual, I think we're all realizing, you know, the fairytale land that we hope.
Yeah, life and death.
Yeah, we hope, like, fairytale happens.
And I think we have to remember this. We that this world this fairy tale world happens in which
everybody gets everything they deserve everybody gets every opportunity they deserve everybody's
happy everybody loves everybody uh everybody is uh makes no mistakes everybody like we all want
this world but i think right, more so than ever,
we are getting smacked right in the mouth
that the real world is not necessarily this world
that we all think we're living in already.
Because a lot of people get real mad
whenever something happens
because they're passionate about everything like that.
And it's like, yeah, love the passion,
but also know this is probably going to happen a little bit before we get to this euphoric
world that we're hoping to live in right now i think everybody is kind of realizing that oh shit
life like this is a real yeah yeah like world world is a real thing like yeah there's people
that you know might not say bad things about people, but also just fucking get in a tank and run over a car.
People that look exactly like them.
2022, people look exactly like them.
People that they probably could have been related to,
just walking in, just sending missiles on.
That's happening in real life right now.
That's why right now we need something that we can believe in.
Right now, that one thing is the ghost.
What's his confirmed wins?
I think the ghost is up to 78 splashdowns at this point.
The ghost of Kiev is who you were talking about.
Yeah, the ghost.
Was introduced to the internet last night.
Remember, war in your pocket.
This is going to be an interesting time that we will talk about.
Forever.
First time ever you just pull out your phone open it up nuts and the first
thing you see is actual war not a documentary of the old war not world war whatever put into color
which they have done to make it more realistic and everything like that it's actual real world
this is happening right now holy hell big things happen the ghost of keith was introduced to the
world last night had six confirmed yesterday six Yesterday, yeah. Six on one.
Dog fight wins.
Yeah.
And then there was a video today that came out of him getting another splashdown.
We don't know if it was him,
but we do assume it is him.
With his tactics, based on what we've seen,
that was definitely him.
He is looking, listen, the ghost of Keefe
is looking to put together the first undefeated season
in the history of dog fight wars.
Yeah.
You would just assume, and I think that's why Top Gun and everything was so looked upon as awesome
and those fighter pilots looked at as badasses because you just assume,
oh, a lot of you aren't going to make it because you're dealing with aviation,
you're dealing with tech, you're dealing with missiles,
and then you're dealing with everything else that's going on at what?
Like 500 miles an
hour 600 miles yeah and it's just but it's a massive part of everything you know it old wars
looking into it but this goes to cave i guess this guy's a throwback yeah just a fucking absolute
stud in the sky dude but it's he he feeds on destroying enemy aircraft he doesn't even have to refuel.
We were talking about it earlier.
He just flies right through the jet path of one of his splash dons,
and he just fuels up that way.
Oh, he takes the air.
Scoops up the fuel.
It's like the video game where you used to run through bubbles.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what the ghost of Kiev does.
That's right.
Man, it's crazy.
I hope everybody tees and pees everybody.
Yeah, tees and pees.
Let's get to a break.
Ian Rapport will join us on the other side.
I mean, on this feel-good Friday.
Here we are, Ian.
I'll tell you what, it's interesting.
Oh, yeah.
If you think you're having a bad day, just think about it again.
That's, yeah.
Legitimate.
That traffic out of town tall where i guess they're reporting now
multiple places are reporting that the women and children of ukraine are allowed to leave but any
men from 18 to 60 or whatever it is oh yeah have to stay and fight i think they said they handed
out like 120 000 assault weapons to uh citizens in Kiev the other night.
And then there was a report that they were urging their citizens to make Molotov cocktails and throw them.
It's only going to continue.
All right, let's go.
I hope everybody survives.
Cheese and peas, everybody.
Joining us now is a senior NFL insider for NFL Network and NFL.com.
Fresh off the bunny hill with his family.
Ladies and gentlemen, I guess he is still alive.
Congratulations.
The host of the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and Friends,
us being friends, him being Rap Sheet.
Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport.
Yay!
Bro, you look so cool, dude.
Oh, no.
No internet out there, apparently.
Oh, you got me? Hold on. You're up in the lodge, dude. This guy out there, apparently. Oh, you got me?
Hold on.
You're up in a lodge, dude.
This guy's up in a lodge.
We've just been shredding, pal, dude.
Yeah.
It snowed like 10 inches last night.
It's like little mountains all over the hill.
It's treacherous out there.
I'm somehow making it.
I would not say I'm improving, but I haven't fallen and I'm still alive.
Quads are burning a lot. That's not something I was expecting. Oh, good. I need to making it. I would not say I'm improving, but I haven't fallen and I'm still alive. Quads are burning a lot.
That's not something I was expecting.
I need to get a better quad situation going on.
But otherwise, pretty good. Well, skiing could be your quad situation, by the way. That could be your
workout to get you into it. We saw a picture of you
from earlier. Obviously, look at this
dude. Oh, my God. You look so
cool. Great swag.
You look so cool, dude.
Oh, this guy stinks. He's so You look so cool, dude. This guy stinks.
He's so frozen.
Hang up on him.
Hang up on him.
We got to call you back.
Ian, we got to call you back.
Yeah, there's a massive storm in the northeast right now.
He said 10 inches.
Treacherous.
He said there's little mountains on the.
Little muggles.
Oh, so that's what.
And that's fresh power, though.
Exactly.
A lot of fresh power.
Another foot today.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
He's going to be stuck up there in Vermont.
Oh, yeah. Best you could imagine, though.
That's some good conditions for old rap sheet.
Oh, that's where you want to be.
Oh, yeah.
When the snow's coming down, that's the good power.
Yeah, and every single run is fresh power.
And when you fall, it's not that bad because it's fresh power.
Oh, normally ice you could potentially.
Back joining us from a ski lodge in Vermont, Ian Rapoport.
Hey, Ian Rapoport Report now I think we're good
I think so too, you look unbelievable, you look fantastic
we saw that photo of you on the slopes
we thought it was Sean White
we had no idea who it was, you look so cool dude
I mean that's
you know you spend, you go on these different
trails, you go on a couple different mountains
and my kids are in ski school. And
so he always tried to spot your kids on the mountain wave high,
and then they get really embarrassed and they try not to
wave to in front of their friends. But everyone's so
bundled up, you literally can't tell who anyone is. I took a
very nice picture of my two sons before we went out. Could be any
two kids. I think similar to what we dressed in, but like,
could be any,
you got to dress them up like whenever you fly.
You get, like, a purple suitcase or, like, an orange suitcase.
When it comes through the baggage claim, you can kind of notice.
You've got to dress your kids up.
That's what you've got to do.
I think you've got to make them brighter on the slopes.
I mean, we thought we did.
We gave one a neon yellow jacket and another a neon green jacket,
and every kid on this stupid mountain is wearing yellow and green,
and they all look identical.
Oh, that's fantastic.
I'm happy you're having a good time.
Sorry for interrupting your ski break.
There's a lot of things happening around the NFL, Ian,
and we'll get right to the one where you have all the sources.
And immediately upon me saying that, Seahawks Twitter just got really pissed off.
Every time you talk about Russell Wilson, the world explodes in Seattle.
What does this dude know?
This guy's a dumbass.
He doesn't know anybody.
He's not in there.
Russ took Seahawks off of all of his Twitter accounts.
Changed his photo.
He wants to love like Jesus.
Does he want to love like Jesus?
The Seattle Seahawks for the future, Ian?
What are you hearing here?
Does this mean anything?
I wonder if he saw Kyler Murray do it and get all like the, you know,
you got me?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jesus.
Sorry.
I paid for the premium internet.
I paid $4.95.
Oh.
They got you, dude. Yeah, it's like the insurance internet I paid $4.95 It's a scam
They got you dude
It's insurance but a blackjack dude
It's all a lie
Yeah I think it probably is
Alright you got me now though right
Yeah you sound amazing I think we just bumped back into premium
Oh yeah what
I think you're probably right
I wonder if Russell Wilson kind of saw what
Happened to Kyler Murray Saw the newssell wilson kind of saw what happened to kyler murray
saw the news cycle saw everyone kind of wondering everyone was debating and then if you're another
team let's say you're a team who may want a quarterback and there's a lot of them this year
you see russell wilson take everything off instagram you're like okay maybe there's
something then you start calling like it is a way to trigger some sort of action. Like we've seen countless times stuff start in the media,
rumors start and then teams start calling because they wonder if there's
something there. So like, I don't know what Russ's goal was,
but I would imagine this ends up driving the conversation,
but I would go back to kind of where I always am with him in Seattle until
Seattle has a better option for them to compete next year.
I don't see them trading them. Like I just, I don't know who their quarterback is going to be
if they trade Russell Wilson. I don't know how that becomes an upgrade. And we have to acknowledge
that. I think that has to be acknowledged through all of this because the teams are ultimately in
control of all these decisions, basically, which leads me to this yeah diana rossini who we love i can't can't say this enough love diana rossini she went on rich eisen
yesterday and she reported that aaron rogers uh per league sources aaron rogers is looking to be
the highest paid nfl player by a wide margin then the number 50 million a year got paid out he might
get paid that i'm not 100 sure but that built a narrative
that that's all aaron is looking for is to be the highest paid player and all that which is
categorically false like yeah i literally i i don't ever do this because he's like somebody i
you know we don't really like we're on good relations but it's not like aj and him where
i can just like text him out of nowhere i'm like is this true he's like no it's not true
whenever things like this happen and you just just said the player removes the shit from their social media, it garners a
conversation. Those league sources, when they're telling an insider like you, like Rossini, like
any of the others that are in the game, you have to acknowledge that that might be that person
covering their own ass, right? Because if Aaron's worth 50 million, then a team that their fans
might be looking for Aaron to potentially play there can justify,
oh, we can't afford Aaron.
Doesn't that happen?
And do you notice that that's happening live in real time or no?
First of all, as far as the Rodgers thing, I think if he ends up back at the Packers, I do think he gets paid.
And this is something I talked about when it was the day of the Super Bowl.
The contract will make him the highest paid player in the NFL.
Like I don't, as he should be, and I don't even think that's a question,
and it's definitely something the Packers are more than willing to do.
I don't know if it'll get to 50, but it'll get very high.
He could have taken the money last year.
Remember last year he took no new dollars, right?
Like he got a year cut off his deal, but there was no new money.
I do not believe from
everyone i've spoken to it that it is about the money for aaron rogers he's going to get more
money but i mean i don't think it's about the money he's going to get paid though because it's
business like business you have to get paid like this is um it's like he can't do it for free has
to get paid also there's other quarterbacks but the narrative
now was painted uh this is all this guy wants and it's like you it i don't think that's true but is
that when you get inside information do you think it's ever them covering their ass do you ever have
to how do you figure like diana's very good at what she does so i'm not saying anybody lied to
her but when you get this information do you have to dig into all that shit or no? Yeah, 100%.
And I think the main thing is, like, I never trip and fall and end up with a scoop.
Like, it almost never happens by accident, right?
So if someone's going to give you information, they're going to give it to you for a reason.
Now, sometimes it's like, hey, I'd like you to be accurate, so we're just going to give you this so it's accurate.
That definitely happens sometimes.
Or, like, people are like, hey, there's been a lot of rumors.
I'm going to tell you what's going on so it'll be out there properly.
That happens.
Sometimes it happens, though, where it's other teams, other sources,
and they would like a situation to be portrayed like this.
And so they tell you, knowing that if they tell you,
you're going to put it out there and you're going to put it out a certain way.
No information comes in a vacuum.
So I'm sure that whatever Diana was told is accurate,
but some of it depends on where it actually comes from
because I don't think the Packers think Aaron Rodgers is in it for the money either.
They all seem like they're on a really good plane right now
as far as
what he wants, what they want, what conversations were necessary, how much input was he going to
have, how to prepare for the future. I think they're all on a pretty good place right now.
Yeah. And anytime that comes out, it gives everybody an opportunity to bury him. And it's,
by the way, he's very wealthy, very successful. He has obviously done a lot for our show. Every
time he comes on and gives us our conversations, I thankful for that but also like the dude is a human a weird one
all right i mean he just got out of the p but like him just getting killed by i don't know
i guess that's a gift and a curse of being the fucking mvp though yeah things like that are
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you you you you you you you you you you you you you dealt with over the last 15 years from like, why did you not run it in to that was a bad read to
like, your vaccine takes are terrible. Like he's heard it all. Like, I really think at some point
you become very numb to it. So I'm sure he's getting killed for whatever. And I'm sure that
not, I'm sure, but I do, I do not think that that's something he's worried about because
you're going to literally, anyway. Well, that's why he's worried about because you're going to literally. Anyway.
Well, that's why he's always said he's going to kill him with indifference.
But then, you know, I feel like I don't know.
Can I do that for so long?
Yeah.
It's like, you know, like as somebody who, you know, this guy I've become like kind of friendly with and he's done a lot for us.
And it's I'm watching these people and it's like you're all speaking out of your fucking pocket right now. Like, what are we even what are we even doing here?
I feel like he's given us a lot to disprove all the narratives that were kind of
cooked for a long time but once again like i don't blame bukowski okay right i don't blame
jennings all right jennings and him have his own thing it's just kind of the the way these things
work in the world that we're in is just wild to me like it's one thing said on rich eyes and then
it's every sports media show,
this guy's a fucking asshole.
It's like, do we even know if this is real?
We have no idea if this is real.
Go ahead, Ty.
Well, yeah, that's what I was just curious,
if anything has, like, affected what's going on
with the Packers right now.
Like, I assume, like you mentioned, Rap Sheet,
that they're all in a really good place right now,
but they do all these deals to kind of, you know,
kick the can down the road a
little bit but have you heard anything about i mean we haven't heard anything about davante adams like
is all this stuff with the packers and kind of creating that crap uh that cap space is that
still revolve around when rogers gets this deal done yeah i mean i think rogers has to be first
right that that way it doesn't have to be first but i think people like to be first, right? That doesn't have to be first, but I think people would like to be first.
They'd like to know that if they're going to move all this money around,
that it would be for, you know, maybe the best quarterback in football
and the reigning MVP.
Like, that would be helpful.
And I think he knows that, too, which is why when he's talked about his time frame,
like, he's cognizant of, all right, Devontae has to be tagged by March 8th,
so he probably needs to let them
know something by then. And I think he probably will. They are kicking the can down the road.
And it is interesting what it does, right? Because it's great for players to get a little more now,
but it also raises their cap number on the back end. So like Z'Darrius Smith, his cap number is
so big, they almost can't keep him unless he takes a
drastic reduction which i don't think he's going to do um so it makes it harder in the future but
so much of what the packers just packers are doing is like we're going to try to win this year and
then next year we're going to try to figure it out and it's just they're just going to take this
year try to win try to make everyone happy try to get a Super Bowl and figure it out after. Okay, that's perfect.
Go ahead, Tom.
Ian, in free agency, it's a lot of dominoes.
After the first quarterback falls,
it was Tom and then it was Stafford.
Is there a quarterback this year in free agency
where it's going to be wait to see what this quarterback does
and then the rest will probably fall in after that?
Yeah, I think it's really Rodgers slash Russ's really, uh, Rogers slash Russ, right?
Like if Rogers goes back to the Packers and if Russ goes back to Seattle, which, you know, that
has been the direction we think it's going, but I would never claim to know a hundred percent where
it's going to end up. Cause last year, the Russell Wilson situation took so many twists and turns,
including naming potential places that he would get traded to if he wanted to get traded,
which, of course, he wouldn't say if he did or he didn't.
So, like, that situation could turn a bunch of places.
But let's say Rodgers and Russ are not available,
and Carson Wentz becomes a possibility for some.
Jimmy Garoppolo becomes certainly interesting.
Deshaun Watson will go somewhere and for a very, very, very high price,
but it's not going to be everyone because there's been some teams that have said,
you know what, that's just not going to be us for a variety of reasons.
But I would say you get, you know,
you figure out where Rodgers and Russell Wilson are going,
and then everything will sort of sort itself out,
and everyone will probably end up with a quarterback.
And then it's like, do your Colts stick with Carson,
or do they think that they can upgrade?
And if they do, who actually is that?
I've heard they're not, right?
I mean, that's all reports is that he's not going to be a Colt, right?
Listen, Carson, good guy.
Hey, good guy.
Yeah, good guy.
Great guy.
I can't go through another season.
It's hard.
Yeah, I know. This heart right here can't go through another season. It's hard. No. Yeah, I know.
This heart right here can't go through another season
with Carson Wentz.
And half Indianapolis.
Well, yeah, listen, there'll be a lot of people
that are potentially like, oh, my God, this guy just...
Just not try to die on every fucking play.
We're paying you $30 million.
Can't do it.
I mean, you're a great player.
Stay alive.
But they're moving on, aren't they?
Colts are moving on.
I mean, I know
they are actively looking for
another quarterback
because Chris Fowler always will try to
improve. I just don't know.
Hey, how's that work, Ian? How's that work right now
in the time that we're in? Because the league year,
is there a tampering thing? Like
Russell Wilson, does some team have to
show up in his DMs on his social media?
How does that work? How does that hold like for Aaron I would be Russell for anybody how does that
work I mean first thing you would do is you know you hope that the team and the player have a good
enough relationship where let's say someone calls Seattle and they say hey we're interested in Russ
we're willing to do in the ballpark of what you'd think,
which would be multiple first-round picks, two or three,
or a very high price, and here's why we're in a good situation.
We think we could do a deal.
Then Seattle would go to Russ, and they would say, all right,
we got someone interested.
Is this a team you would waive your no-trade laws to?
And he would say, if he said yes, then they would say,
all right, well, I think, you know, let's move forward and try to do this.
If he says no, it's like, okay, like, that's it.
That does not happen.
So they have power, but he has power too,
because that no trade clause, which Deshaun Watson also has,
that is an amazing thing.
So it has to go through the team.
So there's no teams reaching out directly to players or their agents, right?
You have to go through a team.
That's proper protocol.
Yeah, and I mean, I'm sure there are things going on.
Like if you are a coaching agent who represents multiple players,
you could have a team call and say,
hi, we're interested in the safety you have.
Oh, how is your quarterback doing?
Like you could back channel it and not violate the rules,
but it's such high stakes that I don't think anyone's putting themselves out
there to do anything crazy because if you get caught,
then you can't get the guy, which is way worse than anything else.
That's crazy.
Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, Ravsheet, you said Watson's going to go for a very high price,
and obviously last season he was tied to Flores.
Is there any shot in hell that the Steelers will kind of sell the farm for Deshaun Watson?
I will not say no.
I would never.
Well, it's just, look, it would be very un-Steeler-like to go out
and spend three first-round picks plus for a quarterback.
It's something they have almost never done, but not never,
because they went and got Minka Fitzpatrick for a one,
and that was a fantastic trade and one they would probably do again.
Also hilarious because he resisted a position change,
goes to the Steelers, and then plays the position that Brian Flores
has wanted him to play anyway, becomes an all-pro,
and then Flores now is on his coaching staff.
But anyway, some of it depends on who the next GM is and where they are in that.
But it would be a fantastic place for Deshaun Watson.
It's a great fan base.
The team is good.
They're always good.
The coach will put you in a position to win, and everybody loves playing for Tom. I'm like, I don't likely, probably not,
but I would never rule anything out when it comes to getting a quarterback,
which is the most important thing you can do.
All right, well, great shirt there paying homage, I believe,
and enjoy yourself out there on the slopes, pal.
We appreciate you stopping by in the middle of your ski vacay.
Yeah, no problem.
I'll just say the most amazing thing
is that we got through this
without me freezing too much.
Hopefully there's not a lot of screen grabs
on making like...
We have to hang on.
Don't worry about it.
Your eyes are crossed a bunch.
There's a couple there.
There just were.
Yeah.
Hey, you're alive though.
You've been boozing every night.
You've been skiing all day.
I mean, go ahead and live your life.
We appreciate you.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Ian Rapp, are you the best? Yeah, I'm the best. The best your life. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport.
You're the best.
Ian Rappaport.
The best, buddy.
He's awesome.
Yeah, he's the best.
He did freeze up a bunch.
He did.
Oh, yeah.
I don't think he knew that because he was frozen.
Yeah, it's true.
He feels good about it.
He's about to go get so drunk it's not even funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was a good walk off.
You know, I didn't even know that he wasn't one of his kids.
So that's how that thing goes.
Ski school, yeah.
If you've got young kids who are
learning how to ski i typically drop them off at nine to come up at three you know you just gotta
do whatever the hell you want have a day yeah and you yups up here are living good what a deal you
got kids daycare basically family vacation don't ever have to see your fucking kids it's awesome
you hey you mountain folks are yeah skiers and boarders got it figured out
yeah you do your operation during the day i used to be tuber oh yeah that's good life too trash
bag too you see me on trash bag i'm maybe one of the best trash bags letters of all time shoba
valley maybe i don't know what that means okay it's mountain big tube mountain yes yeah only
the place i've been seven springs oh yeah Oh, yeah. Oh, okay, nice.
And Boys Park.
Oh, yeah.
And then the side of my house.
You know my house?
And then there's a flat, and then it's a black diamond to a lodge to black diamond.
And then you end up in the street.
Boom.
That's how I broke my nose, actually.
Hit a truck.
Grab a lunch tray to slide down.
Well, I was learning how to well this particular time yeah lunch tray or one of the i mean trash bags easy cardboard box
cardboard box good the saucer oh yeah the trash is the best of all the saucers best all you can
move and when you hit the street you could you could get it up get the sparks going a little
bit no no but you can miss your face your face face. Put a little grease on the bottom of it. Yeah.
But I was learning how to ride a bike on the flat area next to my house,
and I was really going, you know.
I was really going in circles.
It's a tight little area.
So that was a very aggressive decision by my parents.
Hindsight.
Especially if you're coming up the hill.
No, no.
I'm on the flat area.
So I'm learning how to ride my bike. No, it's next.
My house is here., my house is here.
Okay, house is here.
Bang.
Backyard is like this.
Then there's a side yard.
And then the front yard, straight down.
Then there's another house right here, right?
So this is a tight little area right here.
Tight little area.
This is where I used to kick soccer ball.
Boom, boom, bang, pow.
How you doing?
Sled riding, awesome.
Street though, pretty active. I mean, it was very much car, you know, bang, pow. How you doing? Sled riding, awesome.
Street though, pretty active.
I mean, it was very much car,
you know, that whole thing.
But you had to guess for how long it was going to take
for you to get from the top thing.
I'm riding a bike in a circle.
How you doing?
Keep it moving.
How you doing?
Keep it moving.
It was really the only,
if I wasn't in the street,
that was really the only flat place to do it.
So, and I thought I had figured out,
so I was going to go ahead
and just, I was going to get out of here.
And I didn't know where the brakes were, I guess. And I went down had it figured out, so I was going to go ahead and just get out of here.
And I didn't know where the brakes were, I guess.
And I went down the front hill, face first right in the side of F-150.
Bang!
That's why the nose is the way it is.
That's why I can't breathe, I think.
Dad, I think it was Sally.
Yeah, I think Sally heard it.
Oh, shit!
Went right out and grabbed me the whole thing.
But those types of hills.
I mean, what a magical time for you people up there.
Game changers.
And those mountains seem to be huge.
He said, oh, there's – how many trails are there up there?
Yeah, depending on what mountain. If he's at Killington, there's a lot.
They have like four – it's like four mountains.
They have like a main mountain, and there's one off the back, one to the side, one to the side.
So this is like an awesome thing to get into.
Oh, yeah, especially like when it's snowing like that.
The conditions are unbelievable.
There's 155 trails at Killington.
What?
How long does it take to get up to the top?
Probably 15 minutes, I think.
And that's a good time, right?
You guys sit in a gondola?
Or what is it on?
Does Killington have a gondola?
I don't know if they do.
Probably not.
I think in comparison, Seven Springs has 35 trails.
Those fucking things when you're riding up.
I only got to do it one time. I thought i was dead they're getting you're just staring down and you got
that metal little bar right here right on the lift yeah yeah yeah they have a quad though it
runs pretty fast the gondolas are game changers you just hang out you smoke here you guys smoking
dupes oh yeah you're smoking dope yeah they got a little windows. What a time. Yeah.
Drop the kids off.
We don't have to see them or care for them at all.
Nope.
They get lunch.
They get the whole thing.
We're going to hop in these gondolas, get all fucked up, go up the top of the mountain.
Do it again.
Not a bad game.
That's awesome.
Get to wear super cool stuff.
Yeah.
Man.
The man who will be joining us right now from an attic in Ohio, college football national
champion, Super Bowl champion,
ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Haas.
A.J.!
Wow.
Fresh hair.
Oh, shit.
Wow.
Oh, shit.
Jesus.
You're the only dude that goes on a cruise ship to where the sun is
and come back paler.
What?
You are glowing what
that's right man sport sports clips took it tight today man wow yeah you get your haircut
in sports clips for sure for like seriously absolutely yeah do you get the hot towel
no i don't do the whole i like to be in and out in under 10 minutes so i don't get the whole
massage and shampoo situation mvp treatment bro i love the fact that you did get the sports clip special to every haircut.
Your haircut is the sports clip special.
Yeah.
All right.
Take a zero right up to the top and then let's get out of here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Poster boy.
All right.
Let's get ass.
You look amazing.
You look amazing.
You look absolutely amazing.
It's great to see you.
I don't know if you saw us earlier.
We did some big time journalism stuff. I did see a little bit of that. That's great to see you. I don't know if you saw us earlier. We did some big-time journalism stuff.
I did see a little bit of that.
That was very good by you.
Thank you.
I just, you know, thank you.
I appreciate that because I don't know this dude as long as you do, obviously.
I'm not as friendly with him as you are, obviously.
But he's been very good to me.
He's been very good to us.
And everything I've learned about him has been much different than the preconceived notions about him that I might have had or heard about.
And then just, I don't think he's the only person that this happens to, by the way.
This happens on a regular basis.
But for him, it's just like such an easy target at this point, I think, because of the years and decades of him not saying or answering anything.
But like a league source said, oh, he wants all money in the world.
And then that becomes...
Hey, didn't Lombardi say, though, weeks ago
that he's going to be the first $50 million man?
Yes.
I mean, that is, by the way,
probably going to get paid $50 million.
Like whatever it's going to be, I have no idea.
Back-to-back MVP in the middle of the highest salary cap with salary cap only going up more in the next couple of years. They just signed a
$120 billion deal. Red zone deal's up, so go ahead and toss on some more Bs on top of that.
Salary cap, if it grows by 10% again, which is what it's expected to do, it'll be $230 million
next year. So the deal is going to be a year so like the deal is going to be a large one
okay the deal is going to be a large one by the way every i hope every single player in the nfl
gets all the money in the world but the way the narrative was well this is what he's commanding
demanding this is why he's been the way he's been and this is like you can't do this and also have
a winning team you're acting as if gutekunst and them aren't helping you out but you're commanding it's like that's all bullshit though you know what i mean that becomes an entire news
cycle aj and this has happened to him you've been friends with him longer forever right this seems
to be something that has happened for a long time with this fucking guy yeah it is and i know you
you said you reached out to him and he said he absolutely did not ask for or to be the highest
paid player in the nfl and i i would say yeah I know there's no way that he would go and demand that,
but I think he deserves to probably be the highest paid guy
for the next couple of years.
Yeah, that's kind of the –
His agent should, Big Dave Dunn should absolutely.
I bet he's in there throwing his meat around telling him,
hey, we want whatever, guarantee, all of it.
We want a bunch of money.
Speaking of meat, get your Brock Lesnar blend.
There you go. Yeah, your meat will taste better than it's ever been hey the bearded butchers get a hold of you oh yeah i've been talking to them yeah they're sending me a care package
these guys are awesome go to beardedbutchers.com promo code brock i think for 10 off it's great
seasoning and now that i'm super duper keto dude i, I'm in ketosis, pissing on strips, finding that out, AJ. You might as well call me the most healthy dude alive.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, is this do we owe this to your budding friendship with Dwayne The Rock Johnson that you are so into fitness?
I even think about that.
I thought you were going to say Brock.
Yeah, I mean, Brock as well.
But all the stars are kind of aligning where I came in.
These monsters that I'm hanging out with, that I'm friends with,
Brock and Dwayne, probably the two biggest monsters on the planet,
maybe I need to dial in my nutrition a bit.
Well, here's the thing.
I was thinking about this on vacation.
You know, like, I think I could say I'm friends with Brock at this point.
Like, I'm friends with Brock.
We hang out.
We chat.
Okay, he's the alpha male of our species. Bar none. I'm'm friends with you all-time leading tackler of the green bay packers imagine us
hanging out you know and just walking into a place i'm gonna have to get in one of those boxing
things where i'm gonna have to knock somebody out yeah oh yeah i'm gonna have to just because
of that like i'm gonna have to walk who you're gonna knock out though it depends on who you
knock out i'm heavy so it's probably going to have to be some –
this is later in life.
This will have to be like three, four years from now.
But that's going to – I was thinking about that in Hawaii.
I'm like, what happens if I go hang out and we have a thing
and we walk into a room and it's like, okay,
the guy who would fight the aliens if we had to,
another guy potentially makes it on the team,
hardest head in the history of baseball.
And then I walk in there in a tank top on it.
It's like, oh, my God, I'm the soft hardest head in the history yeah and then i walk in there in a tank top it's like oh my god i'm the softest dude in the i'm like you you two might be some of the toughest
humans like ever exist and it's like what do you well i kick balls far you know so at some point
i assume probably have some you know maybe a beer why my little term on a little vodka
no but at some point i assume there's gonna be to be a conversation, you know, and it's going
to be like, all right, I'll fuck it.
I'll go do one of those boxing things.
That's going to be years from now, though.
That's a lot of work.
And my face, I don't like getting punched in the actual face, but I do believe I got
lightning in both hands.
Yeah, three or four years from now, too, Axel will be like 6'4", 250.
No, he's training with me.
I'm not fighting Axel.
Okay.
Sparring partner.
I'm not fighting any Lesnar or any Hawk.
Okay, fair.
Okay, that's just a rule that I am making now. I'm not fighting any Lesnar or any Hawk.
That's just a rule that I am making now.
But three or four years from now, I will probably be in some... You should fight maybe Nick Cage.
We talked about him on the show yesterday.
All right, if Nick Cage wanted to fight, I would fight him more.
Okay, all right.
I'm joking.
I wouldn't want to break the Con Air's face.
You know what I mean?
That wouldn't be something I would want to do.
And I wouldn't get punched in the Con Air's face. You know what I mean? That wouldn't be something I would want to do. And I want to get punched in the actual face by Nick Cage.
But I will say the people that have, you know, kind of my, our life, our world, our universe has kind of grown into have been spectacular people.
I've, believe it or not, I've never talked to this man.
Never met this man.
Lot of mutual friends though.
Oh yeah, you bet.
As soon as I got that tweet
from him the one day,
I was like,
man, this is a fucking big deal.
This is the biggest star
on earth tweet me.
Then he follows it up like,
hey, it's going to be a good one.
Look forward to coming on the show.
Yeah.
Hey, thank you, Dwayne.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Dwayne.
I can't wait to meet this guy,
AJ.
I can't wait to have
a full conversation.
I think he's going to be
sitting right there.
Now, granted,
we got to get another headset.
Yeah.
Another microphone.
Because another WWE champion that came through here demolished it all.
I can't wait for this, though.
This is a pretty cool little – look at that.
It's a graveyard.
It is a graveyard up there.
Headset's still hanging in the rafters when we move to Igloo.
We will take the rafters from here, move it to the Igloo, and hang it up there
so the headset will always be in the rafters or whatever.
But this is awesome, AJ.
It's a ridiculous life right now.
It is a very dumb life that this guy even knows we exist, dude.
I think, yeah, it's pretty amazing.
It's awesome.
Now, do you think, does he have any reason to be in Indy
over the next three to six months, do you think,
when he could come in?
Well, he's trying to free a combine, maybe.
Oh, yeah.
He should go do, he should, dude Oh, yeah. He should start the combine.
They should do a similar thing where he gets everybody going.
I'd actually just love to see his combine stats.
See how many reps he can do, you know?
Oh, gosh.
225 he is crushing.
You know, as you get older, you get slower.
What's he do?
48 reps, you think, of 225?
I'm not sure.
What's the norm?
What do you do?
You got that torn tit. Yeah, I i was never a big i got like 25 but i'm saying i bet rock is
for sure 40 plus are you embarrassed by that number or you feel okay saying that number in
public with your meat i'm fine with that what what general bob get um bob has long arms bob
was similar to me i think you guys ever talk about that now, like later in life, you know, once I know,
no,
it doesn't matter.
Two 25.
Does it matter at all?
Oh,
so now,
now what the rock is able to do 48 times.
Doesn't matter.
Bob was 20.
That's all.
That's amazing.
That's awesome.
Bob hit 20.
So that was big for you.
Oh,
did he good?
Yeah.
When it comes to this guy,
so you were getting 21.
Yeah.
Cause what?
See carpenter comes before H.
Yeah.
So the C, for sure.
Were you guys the same class?
Yeah.
Same class.
C becomes before H.
So at his pro day, he seen the general do his 225.
Oh, no.
Bob did not do his 225 at pro day, I don't think.
It was strictly at the combine, I believe.
Nonetheless, in Indianapolis, C comes before H.
AJ saw General Bob do his, saw 20.
Hey, good work, good work.
I'm dying unless I get 21.
That thing would have taken her.
Wait, what did Bob get?
I thought you said Bob did 27.
No, he got 20.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, he's got really long arms.
Okay, listen.
It's not good.
We're on your side.
We're on General Bob's side. We're just saying that is something you meatheads do care about or no, not at all. It's not good. We're on your side. We're on General Bob's side.
But we're just saying that is something you meatheads do care about or no, not at all.
Like him doing 48.
You think Rock would care about that for sure, right?
That'd be something he'd care about?
Yeah.
Oh, it's cool to do.
But I'm always saying it doesn't matter when it comes to translating to a football field.
Oh, gotcha.
Yeah, we won't want him running, though.
I'd rather have C.D. Rock running whenever he was back, literally sprinting to the ring in dress shoes.
Yeah.
And then sliding across the ground, hopping into the ring.
That's when, as you get older, you get slower.
Owen might seem like that.
Does he vert, too, though?
Oh, because he's still got it.
Yeah, for sure.
He's drop-stepped dunking all day long.
I think so.
He's on a basketball court.
Yeah, and he is.
Wide load. I mean, underneath.
I'm not catching it. One of those elbows
may give me my first concussion. Well, that's people's elbows.
I'm not doing that.
You wouldn't be the only one to get taken out by that elbow, pal.
Just want to let you know that. Alright, let's bounce
around some of the NFL
stuff happening. Top decision
makers for the Colts believe Wentz is not the guy
per Zach Kiefer. Zach Kiefer
used to be the indie star here in Indianapolis.
Now he's at the Athletic.
His sources, top decision makers is what we're being told,
are out on Carson Wentz.
The decision is not going to be made solely on football.
That's my understanding.
It's not just based on how Wentz played on the field.
The top decision makers are convinced he's not the guy
and they aren't willing to run it back and just hope for better.
All right?
Shout out to the Around the NFL podcast and Zach Kiefer.
Zach Kiefer, good dude.
I am a fan of Zach Kiefer.
He's a great writer.
He's been around for a while, too.
He's been around Indy for a long time.
Top decision makers would be Jim Irsay, Carly Irsay, Kalen Irsay.
I don't know.
I wonder what that means, but all I do know is this follows up on the report like a week ago that they are done with Carson. Now the waiting
game for which quarterbacks are going to be available, what's the next step, and where does
Carl go? I think people are going to want Carl in this super quarterback needy market that the NFL
currently is. I think I saw something. I saw a headline where it said if Carson Wentz is not an
Indy, he'll go to a great team. Is that because
a team with a solidified starter
will want to bring him in to be an awesome backup
if he needs to go into the lineup?
No, I think people are talking about him going to Pittsburgh, maybe.
I saw a couple reports about that.
I think a lot of people, because right now
it feels like a lot of teams feel like they have a good
team that don't have a quarterback.
And I might be misreading a lot of situations,
but I feel like that's how...
That's what the Colts thought too, though, right?
Yeah, it didn't work out.
I mean, COVID, everything.
He broke his foot in training camp.
It is true. And his great plays, by the way.
Great. Unbelievable.
It's just
me personally,
as somebody who has a show named after him,
speaking into
a microphone on a daily basis,
who happens to watch every single Colt game,
not only because it's the only one available
sometimes on one channel, most of the time,
but also because I'm a fan.
Everybody in that building I'm a fan of.
I would like to see them have success.
It is impossible to watch
Carson Wentz play and not shit your
pants. It is impossible. Even in games in which you win by 30.
We're beating the Jets there.
Thought it was potentially, ah, he might get a career ender here.
On every single play we were there.
He is just a role.
If you have a good team and you need a quarterback,
you can see how Carson Wentz, whenever you see his highlights,
which are he's a fucking hell of a player whenever he's playing great.
It's just that every play feels like needs to be a little bit more sturdy for us because
we got to go run game and we got a great offensive line.
So maybe it's not a great fit for us.
That's probably what a lot of teams who have to make these decisions are going to sell
themselves if they end up with none of the other quarterbacks that they potentially want.
Don't you think that is?
Yeah, I do.
But going back to that tweet, what does that mean when it says it's not solely based on football?
I thought everything outside of football, Carson's great, right?
No, but that's interesting.
That is interesting because they'd be talking like, yeah,
you would take that and say like, oh, this must be meeting and life
and everything like that.
Contracts, right?
I mean, that's got to have something.
Leadership or whatever.
What are they trying to say here?
Yeah, well, I think it's just that he's willing to die on every play.
That's a good thing, though.
That's a good trait to have.
Yeah, linebacker, great position to have that particular trait.
Safety, box safety.
Box safety, it's a great trait.
Guard, I think.
Tackle, not a good thing.
Center, guard, I think that's good.
D-line, in the middle, that's good. For sure. Thought to have.
Water boy.
Any of those other, punter, you know,
you want a daughter.
They have to have it.
You got to have it.
It's the best dangerous play in football.
Yeah, PP, of course.
PP's trying to do it.
Gunners, wedge busters,
these are all great positions to have that.
I don't know if that franchise quarterback
gets the right mentality to have.
I might be wrong.
Carson might prove us wrong.
But, I mean, he's gotten a lot of significant injuries,
and he has not changed or thought about changing.
No.
At all.
And he's playing both his angles in one play, dude.
I mean, I mean.
He can't have it.
Do you understand that?
Both of his angles.
Did we have a clip of the play when it happened?
We have a picture.
We have a screenshot, yeah.
We have a picture.
It's Aaron Donald clearly sacking him.
Like, hey, you are dead.
We're in the red zone, too, I think.
I think we're in the red zone.
We end up losing to the Rams.
We're in the red zone.
And he just let, by the way, love the mentality, okay?
If I'm playing pickup basketball with Carson, I want him on my team.
I'm playing pickup football.
I want him on my team.
To pay him $30 million and to be the quarterback,
the face of the franchise in the program,
and have to live through now 17 games instead of 16,
every single quarter with him,
I just don't know if the decision makers in Indy are up for it again.
I don't know if they're up for another year.
Oh, my God. So that's your reaction. Like, I don't know if they're up for another year. Ah! Oh. Oh! Oh.
Oh, my God.
So that's your reaction.
When you're watching the games, I assume that's how you feel.
Imagine what it's like being Jim Irsay or Frank Reckman head coach
when you're on the sidelines watching it in real time, man.
That would be tough.
Man, he's got $30 million.
I mean, we just had this with Andrew Luck.
I'm not doing this shit again.
I can't.
I can't.
Jim Irsay has to be thinking.
Now, we don't know if top decision makers
are Jim Irsay
via Zach Kiefer's quote there.
We have no idea.
We do know that Jim is involved
in the entire process,
so we can assume
that's going to...
Yeah, here it is.
Yeah, here it is.
Yeah, look at this.
In the red zone, dude.
Nope.
Dead.
Nope.
Not dead yet.
Let me go ahead and plant
and get one more pass off here
as he plants Aaron Donald's body.
He complete that ball?
No.
No, no, no, no.
I mean, I think he's lucky.
Looking at that, he's lucky it was just both of his ankles.
That could have been another ACL.
10-4, good buddy.
I agree.
That's why I like.
And then he goes back out there.
Yeah.
He tries to go out there next series.
Hey.
What's he look like when he jogs back out of the field?
He tried to go back out there the next series, dude.
It was like, bro, I respect how tough you are.
No play left behind.
I got nothing but love for that.
But also, god damn, this is a men's league, pal.
There's a lot of money on the line.
Look at his eyes.
Oh, yeah.
I can make the play. I love it. Yes, you can, pal. There's a lot of money on the line. Look at his eyes. I can make the play.
I love it.
Yes, you can, dude.
Yes, you can.
But also, there's another down.
Hey, there's another down coming.
There's another down coming.
Another series, too.
Another game.
This is early.
No, you got to play every play like you did last.
You know that.
I get it.
I understand that, like, play to the whistle.
Every play.
I understand all these things in theory are fantastic.
I'm just letting you know, one year watching Carson Wentz as my team's quarterback was enough.
It's enough for me.
And I don't know if I'm the only – it feels like I'm not the only one that's thinking that.
I love Carson.
Another place will be great for him.
I can't wait to see his highlights whenever he goes somewhere.
Yeah.
You know, but I feel like these Eagles fans, he'd be great for Pittsburgh.
He'd be great for Pittsburgh.
That's a Philadelphia thing to Indianapolis.
Great hunting up there.
Tim McAfee would take him right up to Tampa.
Tampa, let him get a tan.
The Commanders.
Tampa.
They could use him.
Tampa's got good.
Central Florida's got good boar hunting.
Right in the big time?
A lot of quarterbacks named Carson.
Loves them. Carson Palmer's
a long time.
And joining us,
live from New York,
a man who we were initially
introduced to as electricity
via the Pardon My Take podcast,
a man who's a grinder,
an insider, works for CBS,
knows more about college basketball than you do.
Just signed a deal with FanDuel to be a content creator.
We'll sleep in May.
This is FanDuel.
Ladies and gentlemen, John Rothstein.
Yeah, Johnny!
Pat, right now I feel like Shawn Michaels at the culmination of WrestleMania 12.
The boyhood dream has come true.
Well, listen, I want to let you know it is our dream to have you on here.
It was probably our fault why you were muted earlier.
It sounded like you came in with some real fire.
We will not ask you to duplicate that because we know some will come in the few minutes here we have.
Hey, John, great to see you.
Congrats on the FanDuel.
Hey, Jeff.
Appreciate it, fellas.
Great to join you guys and the FanDuel family.
And remember, this is only February.
So as you mentioned, we're taking things to another level.
And we are just 16 days away from Selection Sunday.
Not that anybody's counting.
Okay, so let's talk about that.
16 days.
What teams are we going to see?
Who matters?
Who doesn't? Or all the old school. Gonzaga. All other school baylor i think is in there who i don't know the normal schools are they still the powerhouses here do
we have some new ones what should we be looking at right now talk to me as if i know nothing about
college basketball because i don't but people that are people that are watching potentially john
well pat i'll tell you this.
You obviously followed last year, and last year there were two teams that were clearly better than the rest in Baylor and Gonzaga.
This year, it's the polar opposite.
This year, parity has again dominated college basketball.
Any number of 8 to 10 teams, maybe even 11 or 12,
could win a national championship.
Even more than that could get to a final four.
But I also think that we need to look at a bigger situation right now.
Two potent offensive teams have separated themselves in college basketball.
One is Gonzaga, who's been an incumbent at the top of the bracket.
And the other is Arizona, which is coached by Tommy Lloyd,
the former top assistant at Gonzaga.
These two offenses feel like they're on a collision course.
And if we get a Gonzaga-Arizona matchup in the Final Four
or the National Championship game,
both will be number one seeds in the NCAA tournament.
It will be college basketball's version of reigns versus lesnar wow
hey what is what does gonzaga do so well that they're able to consistently be so good especially
in this era of like one and done and recruit one guy and win a national championship well hawk i'll
tell you this much when gonzaga went to the Final Four for the first time in 2017,
it put the program on a different level.
And now all of a sudden, instead of getting maybe some of the best transfers
in college basketball, Gonzaga all of a sudden was able to recruit
the best of the best.
Last year they had a dynamic lead guard in Jalen Suggs.
This year they have a unicorn in Chet Porzingis, who is completely –
excuse me, Chet Holmgren, who is completely unlike anybody that we've seen
in college basketball.
Initially, when he was in high school and I watched him,
people compared him to Christoph Porzingis, but he's much different.
The motor runs at a different level.
He can be a shot blocker on defense and a three-point shooter on offense.
Last time I think in San Francisco, in multiple situations,
Gonzaga was in a situation where Holmgren got a defensive rebound,
led the break, went to the other rim, and finished.
We are seeing a scenario right now where Gonzaga has not one,
but two All-Americans in its front court with Chet Holmgren,
who's in play to be the number one overall pick in the 22 NBA draft,
along with Drew Timmy, who is the consensus preseason national player of the year.
Drew Timmy's my guy, right?
That's the mustache guy?
Mustache guy.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, I love that guy.
Hey, John, thank you for breaking this down like I'm a doofus because I am.
I feel like I just learned a lot.
No, no, I'm letting you know.
I am, and I appreciate that.
I can't wait to see Holmgren play.
I'm pumped.
I can't wait to see Holmgren play.
He's going coast to coast.
He's a beast.
Someone pick his NBA guy lottery guy.
Get through March Madness.
Let's make some things dance.
We have a guy in here that pays very close attention to college basketball
strictly because he bets on it every single day.
You might have a problem.
This is what he looks like, by the way.
This is the man.
Bang, John.
That's Gumpy right there.
These are his top 16, John.
How do you feel about this?
Is this how we should be viewing it?
I guess Purdue at 11 has a lot of people pissed off.
Is this about accurate,
or are these the teams you see making it to the Sweet 16?
Yeah, I think that's a good 16 by Gumpy right there.
Gumpy kind of reminds me of one of the guys who was like any extras on the trail
in like the Lost World Jurassic Park series.
He looked like he could hang out in like Jurassic World.
Check that out.
Yeah, it's called.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gumpy's looking to take down some raptors.
By the way, just for reference too, really looking forward to Jurassic World, the minion
hitting theaters in June.
You know, we've got an opportunity to like, you know, get a Saturday afternoon with Jurassic
World, the mini.
But anyway, getting back on track right here.
I think this is a really good list by Gumpy.
And I think, you know, one thing we need to keep in mind as well is that momentum plays
a big role in college basketball.
And I'll give you a perfect example.
11 years ago, UConn finished 9-9 in the Big East regular season.
They went to the Big East tournament.
Kemba Walker happened.
They won five games in a row.
Then they go to the NCAA tournament, and they win six games in a row.
The rest is history.
And then just last year, UCLA was a team that lost its
five-star point guardation next to the G League. It lost its best returning player, Chris Smith,
to a torn ACL. And also its starting center, Jalen Hill, pretty much quit the team in February.
The Bruins lost four straight games heading into the NCAA tournament, and then they went from the
first four to the final four. So in the next 16 days,
we are going to see momentum at a real level play a factor in all of this.
But remember, Pat, this is only February.
By the way, February is nothing compared to the next month.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, March Madness is coming on the other side.
UCLA had that kid with that fro, right?
Yeah.
Had that in.
Yeah, he was awesome.
Is he still on the school?
Tiger Campbell. Huh? Tiger Campbell's the guy he was awesome. Is he still on the school? Tiger Campbell.
Huh?
Tiger Campbell's the guy with the fro.
Is he still on the team?
He's still on the team, yeah.
He was their point guard, Tiger Campbell.
UCLA is a team, Pat, that's had incredible bad luck
with injuries this year.
Cody Riley, their top interior player from a year ago,
had 14-10-5 in the Final Four against Gonzaga.
He was out for the
first month of the year then they went on a month-long covid pause jaime jaquez who looked
like a potential all-american has battled an ankle injury for probably a month right now so
ucla right now needs to get healthy a shell of itself they lost at oregon last night well they
might be able to do what they did last year who knows that's why college basketball is so crazy
and when you talk about momentum we assume that the momentum of coach k's final year has led duke to be great gumpy's got him at
five there is this coach k thing been everything it was cracked up to be before the season i haven't
followed closely enough is he giving speeches at every arena is he getting gifts at every arena
like jeter how is that whole thing going and are they a team that could maybe win in this final
year for the guy coach k is pretty much getting treated this season like brett hart did at the end of wrestlemania 10
remember when everybody kind of stormed the ring and put them on their shoulders after he beat
yokozuna at the garden it's kind of like a similar type of send off yeah and and one thing too you
know with that's ironic about this duke situation is you know we've grown up with the ACC always being one of the great leagues in college basketball.
It's not this year.
They're dead, John?
The ACC's dead?
Uh-oh.
Right now, Pat, believe it or not, right now the ACC has 15 teams.
I have four ACC teams in my bracket today.
Duke, Notre Dame, Miami, and Wake Forest, North Carolina in the bubble.
So Duke is not in a situation from now until Selection Sunday
where they're going to get the type of quality opponents that they need
to boost their standing.
Despite a terrific record, Duke right now, to me,
looks like they'll be a two or maybe even a three seed in the NCAA tournament
because they're not getting the same caliber of competition.
However, Duke did beat Gonzaga, did beat Kentucky,
and Duke, because of the talent base, has the highest ceiling in college basketball.
I'm not saying Duke's the best team, but Duke has the highest ceiling.
And think about this.
From a recruiting perspective, this Duke team has a starting five, Trevor Keels, Wendell Moore, A.J. Griffin,
and Howard Williams that combined was highly recruited and highly rated and higher rated than the Duke team
that won a national championship seven years ago in Indianapolis with Tyus Jones, Justice Winslow, and Jaleel O'Rourke.
Okay, so they have an opportunity, you're saying.
Go ahead, AJ.
So are people thinking that if Duke doesn't make a run
that they're an underachieving team?
Oh, like every other Duke squad, the Coach K's coach.
They had Zion.
They're serious holes in this Duke team, I think,
when you look at potential experience.
Because remember, last year's Duke team, okay, missed the NCAA tournament.
There was no NCAA tournament in 2020.
So the thing that's missing from Duke right now is NCAA tournament experience.
The only guy that's really played substantial minutes in the NCAA tournament
for Duke is Marquette transfer Theo John.
And he was on the Marquette team, remember, in 2019
that went out in the first round
when Murray State upset Marquette.
Murray State's job, right?
Yeah, I'm college
basketball guy.
Yeah, you know.
Just real quick before the boys have their actual
questions.
West Virginia just stinks of basketball?
I thought we were a good basketball team,
and then I checked out the whole record, and we fucking stink.
When did that happen?
What happened?
West Virginia is having a season right now that is comparable to the
experience that Mick Foley had as king of the 1998 in Hell in a Cell.
They're in last place right now,
and if they get knocked out in the first round of the Big 12 tournament,
you might as well break out the thumbtacks.
Oh, man.
Get into the cage, dude.
People forget about that.
Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, John, love these top-of-the-table teams,
but who's our Loyola Chicago this year?
Who's the team that's coming out of nowhere and making some noise?
Well, how long do you have?
I mean, how long is this spot?
I can take you until 6 o'clock if you really want to get in there.
It's the offseason for the NFL, so go on.
Rip it.
Go on.
Do what you got to do.
All right.
Well, let's look at the teams right now outside the main six conferences.
The Mountain West Conference has had a resurgence this year
without its main brands doing primary damage.
UNLV or New Mexico is not right now projected to be in the NCAA tournament
out of the Mountain West.
But Wyoming, Colorado State, Boise State, and San Diego State are.
Colorado State is a potent offensive team led by David Roddy,
somebody who looks like an offensive guard but plays like a shifty two guard.
Oh, the big body can move. like an offensive guard but plays like a shifty two guard yes and wyoming has one of the more
underrated one-two punches in college basketball with hunter maldonado and grant ek that's a really
really good league an underrated league now in gonzaga's league saint mary's led by randy bennett
has had a major resurgence they are very quietly a team that's going to host Gonzaga tomorrow night
but has already won in excess of 20 games.
They've been ranked in the top 25.
And if you look at St. Mary's in your bracket, think to yourself,
this is the equivalent of like playing Wisconsin.
They're an old team.
They don't turn it over.
They're outstanding defensively.
They're extremely, extremely well coached.
They don't turn it over.
They're outstanding defensively.
They're extremely, extremely well coached. Now, Rick Pitino has led Iona to domination of the NAC.
Are you talking restaurant?
Oh, yeah.
He's back, huh?
He has built an American Conference roster at Iona.
He's got two American Conference transfers in the backcourt Tyson Jolly and Elijah Joyner as well as
a burgeoning big man in Nelly Jr. Joseph a sophomore who's averaging a double-double in
his last two games they're a team to watch out of the MAAC we've talked about Murray State I just
hung up with their head coach Matt McMahon before I got on with you guys and the most interesting
thing about Murray State this season, Murray State
has two starters, Kevin Brown and KJ Williams from the team that beat Marquette in 2019 that we just
talked about. They combined for 35 and 10 rebounds in that game alongside John Morant. So there is
NCAA tournament experience on Murray State's roster.
Beyond that, there are still other teams that I would put in bold print.
I think one of the more interesting conference tournaments that we're going to have,
only one team can go, is the Mid-American Conference Tournament.
That's in your neck of the woods, Pat.
Toledo is a team that is potent offensively. Rock and roll!
Toledo is a team that is potent offensively.
That's the Rockets, dude.
No, I hear you.
Now, Ohio is the team.
By the way, Elton John is on his last story.
It was at MSG this week.
I couldn't go, though, because obviously Tuesday night was a big night in college hoops.
But anyway, we're going to look at Ohio.
That's why this guy's on the show.
That's right that's why this guy is a fan dual content creator all of a sudden because this dude could
have seen elton john on his last tour again yeah again again yeah we'll see and instead it's
mid-time basketball it's february we're close we're getting close thank you for that this is
only february now in the in the mid-amer too, Ohio, a team last year that beat Virginia,
is a team that has replaced their star point guard, Jason Preston,
with another point guard, Mark Sears, who's been absolutely sensational.
He forms a nice troika along with Ben Vanderplass and Xavier transfer,
Jason Carter.
And also, Kent State has had a resurgence thanks to sincere carry,
a transfer from Duquesne who had 42 earlier this week.
So only one team is going to go from that league,
but the Mid-American Conference representative in the NCAA tournament
should be formidable.
Hey, listen, Duquesne's a profitable school.
They fucking stink this year.
They're about as bad as West Virginia's.
No.
Get this thumbtacks out, dude.
You guys lost to guys putting up 40 points against me.
That's an issue.
I got some news for you guys on Duquesne if you want it. Sure. Absolutely. Oh, shots. Get this thumbtacks out, dude. You guys lost to guys putting up 40 points against me. That's an issue. We didn't lose anybody.
I got some news for you guys on Duquesne if you want it.
Sure.
Absolutely.
We'll be the Duquesne news breaking.
Go, Dukes.
I just tweeted this a little over an hour ago.
Their AD, Dave Harper, has told me that Keith Danbrough,
their head coach, will return next season.
Thank God.
Great day to be a Duke.
Get another opportunity.
And again, Pat, I don't think people
understand how difficult
this job is. I have different taglines
for different schools in college
basketball. For me, Keith Tamborat
is mission impossible because Duquesne
hasn't been to the NCAA tournament
since 77. They got
there in 77, a losing record
because they won their conference tournament
and got the automatic qualifier.
That, my friends, is the epitome of brutality.
You guys stink.
Football school.
You guys stink.
Tony.
You guys stink.
Listen, A.J. Palumbo Center will be rocking, though.
I can promise you that.
Palumbo.
Gumpy, your question for John Rothstein, sir.
Yeah, John, I'm really high on Illinois, have been all year.
They're plus 4,500 to win the natty right now.
Why can't they put it together on a consistent basis, my friend?
It's a chemistry experiment, Gumpy, and coming into the season,
many people, including myself, felt that one of the best guards in the country
would have been Andre Corbello, Illinois' talented sophomore.
Andre Corbello has had lingering concussion issues all season long,
and the rhythm and the chemistry of this team has been like alternate
side parking in New York City.
It's every third day.
And what we're finding is Illinois, and I spoke to a Big Ten head coach
about this this week, is a harder team to guard when Andre Corbello
is not on the floor because what Brad Underwood has done is he's got, obviously,
a staple in the middle in Kofi Coburn, a first-team All-American,
a National Player of the Year candidate.
Cockburn's still playing?
Yeah, Cockburn.
He is a big boy.
But he's surrounded them with great shooters,
Jacob Granderson, Demonte Williams, Alfonso Plummer, and Trent Frazier.
So when you add Corbello to that mix, it affects their spacing a little bit.
The rhythm and the chemistry for Illinois, as it's been for many teams this year,
has been a work in progress.
Go ahead, Tom.
John, I am an Iowa alum big-time fan, even though they –
I mean, we kind of know what's going to happen with them this year.
Is anyone in the Big Ten going to kind of like separate themselves outside Illinois?
Like can Iowa make any noise? Are they going to make tournament, squeak by in the Big Ten going to kind of like separate themselves outside Illinois? Like can Iowa make any noise?
Are they going to make tournament, squeak by in the first round
and get their asses beat by someone good in the second round?
Well, Iowa's NCAA tournament team, which to me is a tremendous accomplishment
considering that it lost Luka Garza and Joe.
Hey, congrats.
Yeah.
Keegan Murray's pretty damn good.
Hey, those dudes run like John Deere out there.
That's right.
That's right.
But I will say this.
You know, I think really what Keegan Murray is doing right now for Iowa's
sophomore is grossly, grossly underappreciated.
I mean, you know, here's a guy who if he played,
and I mean this with all due respect to Iowa's program,
if Keegan Murray played for a blue blood program at Michigan, Michigan
State, Ohio State, Indiana,
he would universally be viewed
as a first team All-American and a National
Player of the Year candidate.
Iowa stinks.
Iowa stinks.
You hear about Johnny Davis from Wisconsin. You hear about Oscar
Sheboy, Kofi Coburn, Ochai
Abadji from Kansas. You don't hear
Keegan Murray resonating as much as he should be.
This guy is not taking a nibble.
He's taking a gargantuan bite as a sophomore.
How come?
Is that because you guys in New York don't want to talk about the Iowa team?
I've been talking about Iowa, Pat.
I'm telling you.
I was buying stock now in Keegan Murray.
I called my financial advisor, and I said,
Blue Horseshoe loves Hanacott Steel like Charlie Sheen in and wall street so in 1970 oh yeah all right thank you all right we
appreciate you doing that over there in the big city for iowa yeah thank you it's very nice to
do that what was the italian restaurant you referenced in your fanduel video oh that was
a campagnola on 74th and first a new york York City staple, unbelievable tri-pasta appetizer.
Pat, you and your guys want to come in.
I'll call Frankie.
I'll set it up.
No problem.
Set it up.
It sounds like something you should set up.
Set it up.
You want me to call Frankie?
You know Frankie pretty good?
Yeah, I know Frankie pretty well,
but if you want to flex the muscle,
you want to do it, go ahead.
No, just the pinky ring.
Just the pinky ring and the 23 and me,
and I'll say, hey, normally I'm eating the Frazzellini's.
But if we can go by the Frankie's, we'll have some good food.
The gabagoola is so good.
It's a New Yorker in the pizza.
It's the Italian pizza.
I can do that if you want me to, John, but I don't want to ruin it.
Yeah, dude.
Go on.
Do what you do. I don't want to ruin it. Hey, dude. Go on. I don't want to ruin it.
Hey, John, my last question, John.
Who's going to win the NIT this year?
I think, you know, really, you know,
you've got to look at Herb Zendik's team at Santa Clara.
They had Joseph Franklin.
They're starting center out of the lineup, you know,
early in the season due to mononucleosis.
A lot of people don't know this about Santa Clara.
They beat TCU and Stanford early in the year.
They've got a burgeoning star that not a lot of people know about in Jalen
Williams.
And they are on track right now to be the three seed in the West Coast
Conference tournament ahead of San Francisco and BYU,
who are projected to be in the field or very, very close.
So I think Santa Clara is an NIT team out of the West Coast Conference.
John, how long have you just said, you know what, everything
college basketball, I won't fucking know.
Like, how long has that been? You just dropped an NIT
champion. I mean, that is... Yeah, no, it started
on March 30th, 1991.
UNLV was on a 45
game winning streak. They were 34-0 going
into the 1991 Final Four
in Indianapolis.
79-77 was the final score.
Duke beat UNLV that night.
UNLV was undefeated.
Christian Laettner makes two free throws with 12 seconds left.
And if you remember, those two teams played in the title game
the year before in Denver.
UNLV beat Duke 103-73.
That was the first moment I really remember falling in love
with college basketball.
And, Pat, you know, we were talking a little bit about my father earlier via text.
My parents have been married right now for an extremely, extremely long time.
They'll celebrate their 47th wedding anniversary in May.
That was a long time.
I remember my mom made plans and my dad was like, yeah, I'm not going.
I've got to watch Duke UNLV.
I knew it was a really, really big deal.
I didn't know how big it was until I saw Leitner make those two free throws.
And you have to remember, that was the first national championship for Mike Krzyzewski.
He went in 86.
He lost to Louisville, 72-69 in the title game.
He went in 88.
He lost, and Kansas won a national championship. He went in 89. He lost to Seton Hall in Seattle, and He went in 87. He went in 88. He lost, and Kansas won a national championship. He went in
89. He lost a seat in Holland,
Seattle, and he went in 90, and he
lost to UNLV in the title game. In
91, he broke through. He ended
UNLV's 45-game winning streak. Since
then, some people have hobbies.
I watch college basketball.
We appreciate that. We appreciate that a lot.
I mean, if
Krzyzewski, Coach K, does that run there of losing the natty five years, five times, he's getting killed right now.
Oh, baby.
I did not know that.
You said, if you remember.
I did not.
I did not remember any of that.
I wish I did, but I do not remember any of that.
I didn't know Coach Krzyzewski could have like five more titles on him.
No clue.
Big time killer early on.
72-69. He could be a guy.
So as an insider, you're just texting with everybody all day, every day.
You know what's going on.
Does that help feed your punditry?
Or how does it work in that particular?
Are you just knower of all things?
Is that kind of how you're viewed?
No, I just try to always be, you know, going to practices in the preseason,
always making sure, you know, you're getting insight from coaches and so on and so forth,
but at the same time forming your own opinions.
But I think obviously having the insight and the working knowledge
on a day-in, day-out basis.
I've kind of made up my mind right now that this is what I do 365 days a year,
seven days a week, and twice on Sunday.
Well, we appreciate that.
A couple more questions here, and we appreciate your time.
Zito just dropped in my ear, and, you know, it's a pretty good question
because I think there's like millions and millions of dollars on the line for this,
maybe even a billion at this point.
I'm not 100% sure.
The perfect bracket, what are your thoughts?
Do you fill out numerous brackets?
Are you in all these bracketologies?
Will you be the first person with the perfect bracket that gets like a billion dollars or would that never happen no the worst thing you
can do when you fill out a bracket is have really good working knowledge of college basketball
because the more you know the worse you're going to do because you're going to analyze certain
things you'd be like well vermont's a 16th seed and ryan davis has been incredible in the america
east maybe they could shock somebody and this is how much I want to tell you about how all of this is really just by a whim. When UMBC beat Virginia in 2018 and was
the first 16 seed to beat a one in NCAA tournament history, UMBC was not expected to win the America
East that year. Vermont was the heavy favorite.
They were in a possession game in Burlington on their home floor,
and Jarris Lyles, a VCU transfer for UMBC, pulled up, made a three-point shot,
and the rest is history.
Nobody thought that UMBC was going to win the America East that year,
let alone be a 16th seed that beat a one.
But Pat, you got to remember, it's not anarchy.
It's just college basketball.
John, let's be honest.
You know who's going to win the entire thing.
So why don't you just tell us right now who should we bet on
and why are they going to win?
I'm not going to say anything until I see a bracket, but I will say this.
This year's tournament will be harder to predict than most
because the level of separation between teams is extremely –
John, who's going to win?
Who the hell?
Who's good value?
Arizona?
I forget.
That's who you said.
Get back in Arizona.
Arizona have been the two most impressive teams that I've seen so far,
followed by Auburn.
But Auburn's guard play to me is a concern.
And I think that John Calipari's team at Kentucky,
who has won back-to-back SEC games against Alabama and LSU
without its starting backcourt of Ty Ty Washington and Xavier Wheeler,
has been absolutely sensational in 2022.
I don't know if there's another team in the country
that could have beaten Alabama and LSU back-to-back
without a starting backboard.
I'll say this, okay?
If there was a bracket today and I had to fill it out,
I don't know who the fourth team would be,
but I know that regardless of where they were placed,
I would pick Gonzaga, Arizona, and Kentucky
to be in the final four in New Orleans.
We appreciate that. We're also appreciative of your time. We're thankful that FanDuel
signed you because you're the man. Can't wait to chat with you more. Excited to see how
many hours you sleep over the next few weeks. Ladies and gentlemen, Jon Roste.
Hour three on the other side. Cheers. No, you're good. What's up, Jon?
We don't sleep. We sleep in May.
Well, oh, yeah.
Guys, I kind of fucking ruined your whole tagline there.
I can't wait to see how many hours.
That's on me.
We're still live on YouTube.
We're not on Sirius anymore.
We had a hard out there, which, by the way, I mean.
Yeah.
Bang.
On the screws.
Right on the.
Right.
Right on the.
Yeah.
Bang.
McGuire.
What is like a day-to-day...
Okay, yeah, Foxy, go ahead.
John, can we expect any other coaches
to get smacked in the moth this season or what?
I don't think after what happened last Sunday,
I think that kind of set the precedent.
What's that all about?
Has that ever happened before?
No, I don't think I've ever seen a coach
hit another coach, man.
That was pretty intense.
We appreciate you, man.
Don't sleep, obviously.
We'll talk to you next week, hopefully.
All right, guys.
Have a great weekend.
Pat, great chat with you, man.
Thank you.
Hey, you too.
You're the man.
John Rossi.
Thank you.
Hey, Johnny.
Jay, great to have you here, man.
Always awesome to get to chat with you on day,
especially when you have a fresh new haircut from Stud Clip.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, Sport Clips, you're right.
Hey, Sport Clips, give me that Sport Clips special.
Do you want us to fade it?
Sure.
Do the Sports Clip fade.
We know what it is.
Right to the top.
Let's get that thing back.
You look magnificent, A.J. Hawk.
Yep, thank you.
I feel magnificent after listening to old Rothstein really educate me
on what I should do in my bracket coming up, both NCAA and NIT.
So I feel like I'm ahead of the curve.
Well, thank you for asking him about a future NIT champion,
and I do appreciate him giving us a Santa Clara or something.
Santa Clara.
Santa Clara.
Herb Sendak's voice.
Yeah, BYU below them in the conference tournament.
Could be in the NCAA.
Yeah, so they've got a couple of players that are unbelievable, obviously.
But, yeah, John Rothstein was amazing.
It was great chatting with him.
It was a really cool chat.
We don't know if it was our fault or his that he came in muted,
but I enjoy him immensely.
And hopefully we'll get the chance to chat with him the next couple of weeks.
He doesn't sleep.
No.
24-7, 365, twice on Sunday.
Twice on Sunday.
What does he do for CBS?
When is he on TV with CBS?
I think he does that.
I think they just, right?
Yeah, he'll be part of their, I mean, when the tournament's on,
it's on like 10 different channels.
He's doing coverage on one of them.
Does he do color commentary?
No, no, he's a studio guy.
Pundit, pundit, pundit insider.
He should do color, though.
He'd be great.
Or play-by-play, probably.
That travel, though, man.
Like, we're talking about all these potential color commentators for the NFL
and who's doing that.
And that's – I mean, it's not easy.
I assume college is small towns, too, like where you fly into.
I think for him to do what he – I think he's best suited, right,
in the role that he just did there.
But I do think he would be a great color commentator.
I don't know much about him.
He was fantastic.
He would bring a bunch of energy to the game.
Like, that's why Gus Johnson, when he ncaa basketball he brings some juice to the game
i know if rothstein i hear him on the mic calling a game even if i don't see him like he's going to
bring some energy okay so let's talk about gus johnson and that whole thing that transpired
yesterday what happened there's more or two days ago news. There's more news now. So Troy Aikman signs with ESPN to do Monday Night Football for $17.5 million per.
Congrats to Troy.
Yeah, congrats, Troy.
Dropping his beer, eight, in Texas.
I don't know if it's everywhere, but at it, baby, Troy.
Troy's living a really good life right now, as he deserves, by the way.
Been around.
We are fans of Troy Aikman around here.
Understand people don't like them people don't like a lot of commentators because commentators
have to be the soundtrack to your worst memories in sports right so that's naturally going to
happen they all hate your team because at some point your team has stunk and they've had to
point it out I think that's just naturally how it goes but there are some that are a little bit
more insufferable than others I personally feel that Troy has been really relatable in the booth.
Now I didn't listen to the entire time I was in the league.
And as a kid,
I don't know if I was paying attention close enough to all the commentators.
This is just strictly post-retirement who I,
anyways,
I like Troy.
He goes 17 and a half to Monday night football.
So that he was rumored to be going to Amazon,
leaving Fox,
go to Amazon.
Well, who's going to Amazon then?
Rumors now say they did talk to John Lynch, and John Lynch inevitably said he's going
back to the Niners.
So with all these names, you bring up Gus Johnson.
I'm like, yo, put Gus in.
Yeah.
Put Gus in primetime.
We will watch Gus in primetime on the NFL, and that's awesome.
But you start thinking about the pieces
that are going to be in place and who they're hiring and everything like that and we didn't
mention this dude's name yesterday and I I thought of it literally immediately upon us getting out of
here you know Ohio guy friend of the program you know Kirk Herbstreet at ESPN right did a couple
Monday Night Football games good yeah very good good and money he's been at ESPN, right? Did a couple of Monday night football games. Good. Yeah. Very good.
Good.
And money.
He's been at ESPN for a very long time.
Long, long time.
College game.
Be like biggest show they got, you know, and everything like that.
The college game at night.
He's been doing for a long, long time.
And I have not talked to Herb Street.
I've not talked to Herb Street since all of this has happened.
But there's another name that we should maybe throw into the the ring there for
nfl commentator because i felt like he did it he was like a fish to water going to do the nfl he's
very calm very calculated and i know he said he loves college football like that's what he told
because i've been trying to get him in the nfl for a long time right i mean i've been pitching him
for monday night football for like hey kirk you need to fuck it what are we even doing man come
to the men's league come to the men's league. Come to the men's league. I love college football.
He is obsessed and loves college football.
Was there a chance he was offered $17.5 million to do Monday Night Football
and he said no? Do you think?
I doubt he would turn that down.
No way.
I wonder.
He's within ESPN.
If he was offered $17.5 million, what trillion
of getting paid to do Monday Night Football, you would assume
his love for college football would still be there but hey i'm a fan
now you know like and i'm not gonna do both is it possible they could say hey we'll give you 20
more mil a year but you got to do game day and you got to still come to monday night well he can't
now right because troy's gonna be the color commentator now they're looking for the play
by play but i'm just saying that signing of troy the ripple effects that's going to have everywhere is fascinating because Tony Romo gets 17, Troy gets 17 and a half.
Hey, this is the new norm now.
So if you're a good color commentator, like, hey,
this is a good time to be a good color commentator.
And what, Kirk is?
Best of the best.
So I don't know if college football is going to.
Only the top crews, though.
Only the few top crews get that gigantic money.
Well, that's what I'm saying, though.
I think Kirk's one of them, right?
He is 100% one of them, yeah.
But now Amazon's color commentary job is open,
and then Troy's job with Joe is open at Fox.
There's reports.
Well, and then maybe Joe is out, too, because he's only got one more year left.
There was reports today that Sean Payton might be offered that Fox one.
Fox color commentator job.
They just don't know.
I think Sean Payton will be great most likely, but they don't know.
He hasn't done it.
Michael McCarthy at M. McCarthy Rev.
Breaking Sean Payton negotiating with Fox Sports.
The former Super Bowl winning New Orleans Saints coach could potentially succeed.
Troy Aikman as network's number one game analyst alongside Joe Buck.
I assume Joe and Sean have a
good relationship this is why this was broached but also Sean just retired very very successful
you remember his retirement press conference was an hour and a half long him just shooting the shit
I think he's a very good speaker I think he knows the game obviously inside and out
his resume is filthy he'd be great for that gig but is he is his okay now we got to think is his team
potentially floating information that he's negotiating with fox to be the number one
because amazon's gig is also open out there and if that's the case if we're going to get sean
payton in the booth excited about it there's also rumors tom brady is being sought after to be a
color analyst color commentator by amazon and Fox now trying to figure it out.
So we know that John Lynch was brought in for an interview by Amazon to potentially be the color commentator for them Thursday night football.
John Lynch ultimately decided he was going to go back and be with the Niners.
Then, obviously, Troy's name was attached to it.
Al Michael's name was attached to it.
Nothing has been officialized.
Now Sean Payton's name is leaking out for the Fox gig.
Tom's name is leaking out for both.
It'd be cool to hear them both, but what if neither of them want to do it?
I'm excited to see how these kind of roles get filled.
For Sean Payton, if you're one of these networks,
because he had his press conference,
but it wasn't exactly like I'm never coaching again.
If the Dallas Cowboys job opens up for a coach in a year or two,
are you giving Sean this job as an announcer,
your number one announcer for a year,
thinking maybe he could leave and go back to coaching in a year?
Well, and then also Joe Buck's only on one year too, right?
He'd still be in the game.
Still something you do this.
Maybe.
But no, we don't know what's true.
They want to make a splash hire though.
And Sean Payton absolutely would make some noise
if Fox hired him for Troy's job. Tom Brady would would be us yeah does tom have any like he's making that move he's making
that movie where he is producing and starring in it i think it's 80 for brady or something what's
it about cross-country trip yeah for uh i believe elderly women are going to see the 2016 season
super bowl which was in 2017 against the Falcons,
and Brady's playing himself,
so I assume there's some interaction
between the two groups.
Is it based on true story?
Sounds like it.
Probably.
I mean, I'm sure there were four elderly women
who went cross-country to see that Super Bowl.
Was that the same?
What's that?
I don't know.
Wouldn't you rather them do a movie
or a docuseries on that one allegedly crazy
lady that drove cross-country in a diaper
to go get to her mistress?
Okay. I mean, there's a lot of movies that could
be made. I love Tom Brady.
She had weapons in the back and she put a diaper
on and drove cross-country because she didn't want to have to stop
to go to the bathroom to get to the dude
she was with who was married, I believe. Is this Tom Brady?
I think she was an astronaut. It's real.
Is this Tom Brady? No, she was an astronaut. It's real. Is this Tom Brady?
No, but when you said the four elderly ladies driving cross-country,
boom, that popped in my brain.
Well, thank you.
Keep that beautiful brain going, honestly.
It would be a good movie, though.
There's a lot of great stories.
That sounds like an incredible one, by the way.
I'm surprised it hasn't been a documentary already.
Why don't you do that?
I'm going to set up a meeting somewhere.
All right, perfect.
There you go.
I set up a meeting to set up a meeting.
Bingo.
You know what I mean?
That's all meetings are.
Let's talk about what our next meeting is going to be.
Yeah, but that next meeting, hey, we're going to get closer.
That's the one.
We're going to get closer.
But the synopsis of 80 for Brady is,
I have a friend who works in Hollywood.
Oh, this is all right.
This is an anonymous source.
This was sent to the show.
Okay.
I think it was Zito.
I'm not 100% sure
who got this inside information.
But I have a friend
who works in Hollywood
and will be the associate director
for 80 for Brady.
It's a movie about four ladies
who have gone to the Super Bowl
every year
and their last one is the Super Bowl
where the Bucs win.
Okay, so 2016 would happen, I guess.
Yeah, that's just from the New, so 2016 would happen, I guess.
That's just from the New York Post or Hollywood Reporter article I read.
Is that the one where,
which one did his jersey get stolen?
That was...
Not Tampa.
No, not Tampa.
I thought it was in Atlanta,
but it was the jersey from the Seahawks Super Bowl.
So whatever it's from,
I wonder if these ladies help.
Oh, like an Ocean these ladies help. Oh.
Like an Ocean's 8 situation.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe there's 80 ladies.
We're all fighting for Brady's jersey.
With diapers on.
Wow.
That's a different story.
Are they 80 years old?
Is that what that is?
Could be.
I'm 80.
It is based on a true story,
but we all know it won't be as good as American Underdog.
No.
Well, that goes without being said.
I still don't know. I still don't know
if it's good or not. What is the deal?
It's good. It's incredible.
What is your problem, you guys?
It is. Foxy,
they are so full of shit. I can't even
take it. I think so too.
There's no chance they're telling the truth.
The issue is, I thought the movie was good.
We're not saying the movie's probably going to be bad.
That's not what we were saying.
What we were saying was these two humans,
Ty and Nick, are not acting like themselves at all
whenever they speak about this particular movie.
That's how good it was.
And it does have a 98 audience score.
Bingo.
Proof's in the pudding, my friends.
Proof is in the pudding.
Give it an Oscar.
Why did you guys do it? All of you. Why did you guys call me on vacation?
You guys were bored as fuck.
Did Foxy see it?
Let's fucking stir something up.
We're going to say the Kurt Warner movie is awesome.
Dude, they said they watched it the same night on vacation.
Yeah, exactly.
They watched it in a Zoom.
They watched it in a Zoom.
No, Nick texted me the following day and said,
dude, you've got to watch the Kurt Warner movie.
I said, you know what?
I actually did last night.
It was almost like
a moment in time.
It's incredible. It really is.
Nick, did that give you the inspiration
to get engaged after you watched this?
No, no, no. That already happened. I'd actually
drank a bottle of champagne that Pat and his lady
had sent over and then another one that came complimentary
with the pool cabana
and then got all boozed up, the uh pool cabana uh and then
got all boozed up went up to the room watched this movie phenomenal so you don't know what you watched
this guy's blacked out drunk yeah and you we know you're blacked out you guys didn't watch the movie
but that's but that was normal state for those two so it's they did watch i watched every second
of that film i loved it and yes i was pretty tuned up while I was watching it.
But it was phenomenal.
It was unbelievable.
You made it through the entire movie?
Yeah.
You didn't fall asleep once?
Nope.
Fall asleep?
What room?
On the edge of the bed?
What room?
Where were you?
I don't know what's real.
Yeah, I don't believe it.
Were you in a hotel?
I'm going to watch it.
I'm going to love it.
I'm happy it's good.
You're a good question, AJ.
Where did you guys watch this?
I was at a resort, and it was only $20.99.
I said, hey, this is cheaper than going to get a couple.
Only $15.99 for me.
Unbelievable.
See, there's no way.
When you're lying, you give too many details.
That's the thing.
You give extra details when you lie.
You paid $21 for this, and you loved it.
Oh, yeah.
That is not a Ty Schmitt thing at all.
That shows you how good it is. Loved every you loved it. Oh, yeah. That is not a Ty Schmitt thing at all. That shows you how good it is.
Loved every second of it.
If you were to get a can of chaw
and it didn't have the same amount of tobacco
as some other thing,
you'd be pissed that you spent six bucks
on that or whatever.
Without a doubt.
You're saying 21 bucks,
American Underdog,
best movie you've ever seen.
Yeah, best 20.
After I watched it,
I was like, shit,
that should have been $49.99
boom
I almost felt bad
you got him
I wanted to find out
no
no
no no
I'm serious
it was incredible
that's bullshit
now he wants us
to spend 21 bucks
no we're not
we have to wait
you know hey
it's fine
because when the
blu-ray comes out
the collector's edition
I will be buying it
and I'll just let you
leave
he's lying
I don't believe you for a second.
Look out for some stocking stuffers, boys.
No way.
That'd be awesome.
So Kurt, when he came on the show before he went on air,
I said, hey, man, I haven't seen the movie.
He said, you haven't seen it?
And I said, I haven't seen it, but I'm
planning on watching it, man.
You know, the off season, I'm going to watch it or whatever.
He goes, OK, OK.
I said, I heard it was good, though.
He goes, yeah, yeah.
He shakes my hand and he sits down. I down I was like oh this could be a terrible conversation
like I probably shouldn't have said that I should have just you know I watched the movie it was
awesome but I just couldn't help it because I didn't know if he was going to potentially think
about firing some questions at me from the movie like hey whenever they did the blah blah blah
that was actually my wife's idea and I didn't want to get stuck in a oh really it's not about you know so i just
wanted to it was almost like my guilty conscience was like hey i didn't see your movie everybody
told me to i was probably supposed to before this interview too by the way i appreciate that but
i did not see it and at that time remember i was pumped to watch it yeah i love good stories
i like good i love everything about it and kurt has been nice to us so i was pumped to watch it. I love good stories. I like good. I love everything about it. And Kurt has been nice to us, so I was pumped to see it.
Kurt's the man.
No matter what's going on, whether Ty and Nick are lying or not,
Kurt is an awesome individual.
Awesome man.
I know he's awesome.
I watched the movie.
Marshall Falk said he was incredible.
Everybody has said he's awesome.
He's been good to us every time he's come on this show.
So I will watch this, and I had high hopes for it.
But the movie critics, Ty, Nick, probably AJ, like, I will watch this. And I had high hopes for it. But the movie critics, Ty, Nick, probably AJ, everybody,
this movie is going to be the fucking worst movie of all time.
Then they watch the trailer.
They watch the trailer.
Did you see that fucking Mickey Mouse trailer?
This movie is going to be an embarrassment to the NFL.
These were the things that these guys were saying.
Now, all of a sudden, we're supposed to believe they get all boozed up at Cabana's,
watch this thing, and they're dead straight-faced Blu-ray buying it,
need a limited edition.
That's what we're saying.
We think these two are completely full of shit is the problem that we're dealing with.
Listen, I didn't think I could be won over.
I did say all those things after I saw the trailer.
I said, this thing is going to fucking stink.
I'm an Iowa guy.
Warner's an Iowa guy.
There's a lot of ties there.
He played at UNI.
That's right up the road for me.
I watched the movie.
I'm like, you know what?
This was incredible.
I feel terrible that I ever said anything bad.
Kurt's a Hall of Fame human being as well.
We'll watch a lot of UNI.
Exactly.
AJ, what?
What?
Is this taken from the movie or is this an SNL sketch?
Exactly.
That's exactly what we're talking about.
You said the same thing.
It's a still shot.
Why is he holding that thing?
You should see the way he slings the pill.
Hold on.
There's no way.
I know you're falling shit, dude.
It's the worst movie ever.
No, it's not.
I can't wait for the vindication.
I know.
The vindication from you guys.
You guys.
Yeah, I can't wait for you guys to watch.
Listen, it looks good.
It looks awesome.
I can't wait to see it.
I'm going to watch it this weekend.
Well, unless war's on.
War will be on.
I think war will be on.
How do you not watch that?
Dude, right?
Everybody's doing that.
It's tough, yeah.
Everybody's watching that right now?
Oh, yeah.
Put this one up, please.
Look at that.
Holy shit.
Oh, my God.
I mean, the guy does kind of look like him, and he's tall.
Throws the pigskin like him, too.
He's hucking that thing around.
Look how Kurt's holding the ball, and look at that other still shot.
He clearly didn't learn his idea. You think Kurt wasn't on? Guy's an actor, dude. All right?ucking that thing around. Look how Kurt's holding the ball. Look at that other still shot. He clearly didn't learn.
You think Kurt wasn't on set?
Guy's an actor, dude.
That's definitely a stadium from that picture, right?
That they were filming? This one here?
No, no, that right there. That's definitely a full, like, real stadium.
Yeah, dude.
It's movies, dude. It's Hollywood, alright?
High school stadium.
Anyways, let's give away $58,000.
Hell yeah!
What's that?
Just me, huh?
That was just Connor.
I didn't say anything.
I was the only one who said stuff.
Everyone else.
You were excited, but AJ said, all right.
Yeah, both of them went down.
No, no, I meant to say, all right, that's good.
That's awesome.
So the boys, how many games did they win?
Yeah, so they won the final.
58%.
I know Gumpy won like 14 and 7 or something.
He made 21 picks.
And I don't know if that was a strategy that they enjoyed because the percentage, you know,
probably not going to go 100, but less likely to go 10 if we put a bunch of picks in there.
He went 14 and 7.
That's a hell of a pick.
That a baby Gumpy.
22 and 16 was the total.
Okay.
Pretty good. 58. Pretty good.
There you go, boys.
58%.
Pretty good.
And I said this earlier, AJ,
that was the first time their record was going to be displayed to everybody
and it actually affected people's pockets.
So we've talked for months and months, years at this point now,
that, hey, these dudes somehow win all the time.
Imagine we come in and it's all a $10,000 giveaway,
because we got 10% right.
I don't know if the boys even knew that that was potential.
No, I started 0-4.
Nick and Diggs texted me and said, I hope your games are going well.
We're in a bad spot.
Oh, so you guys were grinders at the end.
And then about 11.30 p.m., I messaged back.
I said, I got this thing, boys.
I'll take us home.
Yeah, baby.
That's good team betting over there.
It was honestly the first night that I didn't give a shit if we didn't win one game.
Why is that?
Tony.
Tony.
We're getting fielded Friday.
You don't care about the people?
Come on.
Money away.
Audience meters.
I even tried stacking the deck.
I went with heavy favorites, talking minus 300, minus 400 odds.
Both those teams end up losing.
Wait, which two teams are those?
The fucking Penguins and the fucking Florida Panthers.
You know what I'm saying?
Penguins lost to the New Jersey Devils.
I didn't know that until right now.
How about that?
Well, the fucking Bruins cost me money, too,
because they were supposed to win regulation.
They went to overtime with the fucking Kraken.
And they won.
The Penguins lost 6-1, I think.
Was that last time? Yeah, lost. Cement in the skates, refrigerators on theuins lost 6-1, I think. Was it? Was that last time?
Yeah, a lot of cement in the skates, refrigerators on the back.
The boys were stuck in mud.
Doc walked.
My God.
The Penguins season might be over.
It's over.
Jesus.
They're minus 300 to win.
Yikes.
They lose 6-1?
What the fuck is going on in Pittsburgh?
Uh-oh.
Didn't show up.
Took the night off.
Worst team in the league.
They were worried about more important things.
Okay.
What's that?
What?
Okay.
The ghost.
Fucking Capitals, man.
What are you talking about?
The ghost of Kiev.
Have you heard about this, dude?
Oh, yeah.
Is that real?
Has it been confirmed?
No.
Well, Tony's confirmed it 10 different times because I believe he wants to.
And I think this is a great wartime story.
Dose is a dogfighter
up there who just...
He's looking to have the first undefeated season
in the history of war.
6-7-0 in dogfights.
He took down, what, six planes within the first
day? Yes.
That's pretty good. There's not a whole lot of dogfighting going on around
the world these days. For him to do that in one day
is pretty good. What, in the last 30 years, probably? I don't know when dogfighting was. What about Snake Island? There's 13 dudes whole lot of dogfighting going on around the world these days. For him to do that in one day is pretty good. What, in the last 30 years, probably?
I don't know when dogfighting was.
What about Snake Island?
There's 13 dudes on Snake Island, too.
I'll tell you what.
They did go down.
And the president said, we will go down facing, not our backs or whatever.
Snake Island, hey, go fuck yourselves, dude.
Yeah.
All right.
They were kind of in a...
They were screwed.
They were done either way.
Hey, listen, I don't know much about war,
but I've been seeing a lot of it in my pocket and on TV.
This is wild, man.
It's wild.
I hope it ends soon.
I obviously hope everybody's okay.
Let's talk about hashtag PMS Feel Good Friday 2022.
Okay.
Okay, this is the first week of the 2022 NFL season.
It is coming to an end.
I have absolutely loved this week.
Started with Aaron on Tuesday,
coming on,
talking about the PK cleanse.
Yeah.
Then we had news break.
We had conversations made and it was a glorious,
glorious first four days back after a vacation.
That was probably too long,
but the boys certainly deserve it.
Shout out to you guys.
Wrapping up this week. Hasht to you guys. Shout out to you, Pat.
Wrapping up this week, hashtag PMS, Feel Good Friday 2022.
What you need to do is go ahead and tweet a picture, a screenshot right now.
Screenshot right now.
Okay.
Okay.
That's fake, by the way.
That title is fake.
This is real.
Oh, is it? That's a fake one. Yeah. Yeah, it's a fake one the way. That title is fake. This is real. Oh, is it?
That's a fake one. Yeah, it's a fake one.
It's a fake one.
This thing is three times as heavy as yours.
No.
You saw how hard it was to get on.
That's not true.
No, I saw you acting.
Mine is...
You hear that?
Wow.
Holy shit.
Wow, boom.
You just said you can't say that.
Screenshot that.
Post it at Cash App with your cash tag,
and then just say something nice to somebody.
Okay, say something nice to somebody and at them.
It doesn't have to be any of us.
It can be somebody.
Just say something nice to somebody.
Hashtag PMS Feel Good Friday 2022.
That screenshot from moments ago at Cash App your cash tag
say something nice to somebody
and feel free to add them
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we are very thankful and lucky
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the only reason why we can do this
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