The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 605 - Peter Schrager, Shams Charania, Dana White, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: February 28, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the combine coming to Indianapolis, and what that entails for the league over the next few days, and all the new news surrounding Kyler Murray an...d his agent releasing a letter detailing how he wants a new contract extension now, they give a review of Kurt Warner's American Underdog, chat about the different potential signings and restructuring happening in the NFL and much more. Joining the progrum to chat about the combine and what will happen in Indy, Sean McVay turning down $100 million over 5 years from Amazon allegedly, all the drama in Arizona, and more (8:33-26:13). Next, NBA Insider for The Athletic and Stadium, friend of the progrum, Shams Charania joins the show to give us an update on everything going on in the NBA including why the Lakers stink, the Sixers and Nets acclimating to their new pieces, the mandates in New York and how that could change moving forward, and everything else going on in the Association (53:58-1:14:32). Later, UFC President Dana White joins the show to chat about this weekend's MASSIVE UFC card, how life is these days, how he's tried to change judging and officiating in the UFC, where he see's the UFC going next, and more (1:29:24-1:46:48). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen everyday on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. It is officially Combine Week here in Indianapolis. It is Monday, February 28th, 2022. This show starts now. Can't thank you enough for joining us here at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. I apologize for my voice. I didn't get much sleep last night. Was at the vet hospital emergency room with my dog Valerie last night until late in the night.
Starting point is 00:00:27 She eventually got admitted for the evening. They were able to diagnose, they think, what was going on. She was sick, sick. Obviously, my dog Valerie has beaten cancer four times, has surgery. She's the reason behind Fur the Brand, the first dog, by the way, that I've ever really, you know, anybody that has a dog gets it. This is the first dog that has ever done this. Yesterday, she's a little bit older. She was sick, sick. We took her to the hospital. We had to wait there for a few hours, obviously, because, I mean, midnight on a Sunday is not the most easy time to find a veterinary doctor or surgeon.
Starting point is 00:01:00 They admitted her. They diagnosed it. They think what happened. Got rid of her fever. Running a bunch of tests today. Potential cancer situation happening right now with the test. We shall see. But I apologize for the way my voice sounds. This show is going to be quite an escape for me, actually. So I'm very thankful to be here. Very excited to be here. And I can't thank you all enough for joining us. Massive show today. We got Peter Schrager joining us from the back of a car
Starting point is 00:01:23 because he's going to the airport to fly to Indianapolis. Joining us in about five minutes. There's a lot going on in the NFL right now. Kyler Murray's agent, Eric Burkhart, just said, hey, listen, I fucking want all the money. Basically, in a letter that he posted publicly, sent to Schefter, sent to Rappaport, sent to everybody. Basically saying he is incredibly impressed with what Kyler's been able to do in Arizona, turning around that team that just years ago stunk, and they've only added three more wins each season since Kyler has arrived.
Starting point is 00:01:54 The team was an abysmal dump. Now that Kyler's there, they've made it to the playoffs in a very difficult NFC West, basically is what this letter said. And if they want to prove that they're committed to Kyler, they will secure him for a long-term conversation and lower his salary cap for next season so they can add other people. Now, he still has two years left on his first contract. This is a wild thing to do, but also pretty opportunistic, I guess. People are not happy that are in positions of business and negotiation about Kyler's agent doing this.
Starting point is 00:02:26 This could potentially affect some business negotiations in the future for old Eric Burkhart. But if you're Kyler and you think you can get all the money right now, fucking go and get it now. I hope you do. It's interesting, though, with the two years left and the public shaming almost into it, I don't know if that's the best way to go about doing business. But if you get the job done and you're as talented as Kyler Murray is, maybe that'll be something going forward.
Starting point is 00:02:50 You add that along the fact that we still haven't heard the outcome of the coaches getting their bonuses from making it to the playoffs or whatever conversation. So there's a lot to unfold in Arizona. A situation that we thought was a rocket ship going straight to Lombardy Town up there on the moon. And then late, it unraveled. DeHop got hurt.
Starting point is 00:03:11 The whole team looked different. J.J. Watt was able to beat something again for the first time ever. He came back. Will that be enough with DeHop back in the mix? Coaches may be pissed, allegedly sources. Kyler not happy. I mean, that's a fucked up situation. Can't wait to talk to Schrags about it. He'll be in the back
Starting point is 00:03:28 of a car. Also, his guy McVay returning to coaching after allegedly turning down $20 million a year to call Thursday Night Football for Amazon. Hey, shout out to McVay. I appreciate you. Hey, I appreciate you a lot, Sean.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I appreciate this information coming out, too. Like, that's a great piece of information for everybody else, including the Los Angeles Rams. He turned down 20 M's to do 15 games, I think. I'm not 100% sure. I think it's 15 games. $20 million he turned down to come back and coach and run it back. Obviously, leverage is being used right now with what Amazon was offering
Starting point is 00:04:06 for Sean McVay and his agent to get a new contract with the Los Angeles Rams because last year he was paid shit. I think next year he was supposed to be paid shit. And by shit, I mean he's living good. He's like 25 years old, and I understand that. But in comparison to other coaches and what he's getting paid and the outcome in which they have already reached, I mean, there is. He's going to get broken off as a coach.
Starting point is 00:04:27 That's a massive decision. Can't wait to hear why Schrags thinks he did that. In the second hour, Sean Sharania will join A.J. Hawk, myself, and the boys over here. And then in the third hour, we'll have Dana White. I mean, this is a wild time to be alive. We can't thank you enough for joining us. Dana White today. Vince McMahon on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Okay. What a week. Pretty good business people in here. Pretty good trailblazers. Pretty good run. Now the internet assumes everything that's going on in my life by the way. I was told on the internet that Aaron Rodgers
Starting point is 00:04:58 is coming on this show tomorrow to tell us what his decision is for the future. I had no idea that was the case. No clue. I had no idea it was the case. Internet told. No clue. I had no idea it was the case. Internet told me I'm fighting Vince McMahon. Had no idea that was the case. This is life now, though, I guess. Like, this is what it is.
Starting point is 00:05:13 This is what life is now. I guess I just have to get used to this. I used to, you know, I am somebody who, I don't want to say came up through Twitter, but I literally did come up through Twitter, and now I am at a point on Twitter where it's like, oh, so this is what I used to read about everybody else on. Now there's just shit flying everywhere about me all the time. And it's a wild world. I'm gonna let you know.
Starting point is 00:05:34 It's crazy when you're learning about what you're supposed to be doing literally tomorrow. And I have no idea that's even happening. Oh, somebody must be speaking for, no, nobody's speaking for me. That can't be the case. So who knows what's going on? All I do know is Vince McMahon, bang, going to be in the same seat right over here. The Black Lightning was in a couple weeks ago. And Dana White's on today. It's a very cool moment. It's great to be back.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I appreciate you all. Toxic Table, Couch Boys, how we doing? At Ty Schmidt. Life good? Life great? How was the weekend? It was pretty good. It was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:06:02 It's always nice when the combine rolls around in Indy because when it is here, there is kind of a palpable buzz. You can see you've got all these insiders who are posting pictures in airports that they're going to be here. It almost feels like the new NFL season is finally here. Now that the combine is here, you get your eyes on a couple guys that maybe you're thinking your team will take. I'm excited. It was a good weekend, but I'm very excited for combine. I'll say this, Ty. It also means shit's going to come because all these people are going to be around.
Starting point is 00:06:29 They're going to be chit-chatting with each other. They're going to be around each other. They're going to be talking to each other. So there's going to be news that's going to happen. There's going to be deals that are made. And especially in the trade-heavy conversation world that we're currently living in, that's only going to get expedited around a couple of booze and cocktails right down the street. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I mean, every representative in the NFL, basically. Well, this year, there's a bunch of coaches not coming. Sean McPherson, I'm not going. We got no picks. What am I even doing? Camp Landon. I have no picks. That's basically the entire draft that's at that combine there.
Starting point is 00:06:58 We're going to sign some undrafted free agents. So I'll go, you know, some D3 schools, D2 schools, and see who doesn't get drafted. But I ain't got no picks. I ain't going to any fucking Indianapolis. I just want a Super Bowl in some D3 schools, D2 schools, and see who doesn't get drafted. But I ain't got no power. I ain't going to any Indianapolis. I just want a Super Bowl in Los Angeles. Yeah, not a chance. I just renegotiated a deal because Amazon wants me $20 million. He's not coming.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Some other coaches aren't either. That has become something where some coaches have stopped coming to this. I wonder what that's because of. I wonder if it's because they think it's all a sham because a lot of the practices that happen here are just complete bullshit. Guys have to wake up at like 5 a.m., 3 3 a.m to do different piss tests and then another test and then run then do this then do a bunch of drills that don't matter for football at all but we're able to get finer details on you for like the super scouts and the analytic people i think there's a lot that can be found out but for like the super football guy i think they're
Starting point is 00:07:43 only here strictly for the interactions that are happening and the meetings and the conversations with the players, which are also important. But nowadays you can just add extra produce. Yeah. So, I mean, it's just kind of, I don't, combine, we love it here in town because it is awesome. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I mean, Indianapolis is a great hosting city. Anybody that's ever been to Indianapolis knows that. Ian Rappaport's on his way over here. This dude is on his way over here. Boston Connington is here. Tone Diggs is here. Shout out to you, Tone, for painting yesterday. I was painting. That's what I was doing, too. I was packing dumpsters. That's what we do on Sundays now. We try to just
Starting point is 00:08:14 fill time until August or September. Yeah, welcome to Blue Collar Life, Foxy. Foxy's doing it. Foxy's tweeting, what do you do on a Sunday? Get something done. My house is already painted, and then everyone told me to watch NASCAR. I didn't watch it. NASCAR is doing well.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I watched American Underdog. We will talk about that. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about that. Joining us now, we will definitely talk about that. I did not know what I was signing up for. Joining us now is a man who I know what I'm signing up for. This is good conversation, good information,
Starting point is 00:08:44 and a guy who is plugged in. An Emmy-nominated host of Good Morning Football, ladies and gentlemen, Fox Insider, Peter Schrager. Hey, Schrags! Hey, baby Schrags, you with Danny Boy Hustle Hard? I'm right here, my friend.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I'm in the car. I'm headed to the airport up in Indianapolis. Do you guys know the lay of the land? Do you want me to just give all the secrets about where to go if you want to see every NFL person this week? Because it's your town, but I know where the spots are. Should I get them out or not? Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Let it be, Ben. I'm sure all of Indianapolis might be down there. Prime 47 is a spot where everyone's going to be in the corner. Back corner, a guy named Bob Lamont is the agent for a lot of these coaches. He hosts a dinner the first few nights basically invites everyone you know prime 47 downtown back room back area that's where he's gonna be the new spot called tony's which i will be tonight having dinner with the head coach that's apparently a new spot tony's in town and then there's a couple harry's saint elmo's the real under one under the radar one is one of the
Starting point is 00:09:45 off the... Patron Saint. The Patron Saint? That's right. Kilroy's. Kilroy's. Oh, yeah. Kilroy's not under the radar, dude, by the way. Kilroy's is like a top 10 grossing bar in America. That's like a true... That's an actual stat. Because we're a hosting city, you know, and you obviously know Schrags, and we were
Starting point is 00:10:01 just talking about this, and all the fine establishments you just referenced. Shout out to Indianapolis restauranteurs and all the business people here. But the hospitality is real. It's very real. The Indy 500 comes here every year. There's like 400,000 people in this fucking city, and the city is able to contain it and control it. It's because of the people, the way it's set up, and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Kilroy's, though, right on the corner where the convention center is, all the hotels are, and it has TVs everywhere. They make a lot of money, Shanks. Yeah, yeah. The late night spot is Kilroy's. After hours, Kilroy's. And I'll tell you quickly, one of my favorite stories, Steak and Shake. Is it still there downtown?
Starting point is 00:10:41 Steak and Shake still running? No, everybody's going to the Saint Shack now. That? No, everybody's going to the Saint Shack now. That's right. Everybody's going to the Saint Shack now. It's hot. It's right across from Kilroy's. Yeah. Everybody's going, brand new.
Starting point is 00:10:52 You don't even get yourself a little frozen drinking. That's right. Oh, they got tequila over there. What? I haven't been out in a long time. It's just what the kids tell me. I'm just telling you this is what the kids tell me. I can't wait to have you back in Indianapolis.
Starting point is 00:11:06 We're excited you're coming. Let's talk about some people that aren't. Let's talk about some people that aren't. Your guy, Sean McVay said, we have no picks. Why in the hell would I go to Indianapolis, especially after the entire world just found out that I turned down $20 million a year to call 15 Thursday night football games. I just won a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:11:25 My new contract's up. Why would I go to Indianapolis? Is that what McVay's thinking, or am I reading this wrong, and is this a trend for the future? I think it's more that his NFL season ended on Valentine's Day, February 14th, and he got raided. Eight coaches were taken from him. So now he has to hire all these new coaches.
Starting point is 00:11:42 They're behind the eight ball. Really, this doesn't come from Sean, but there's multiple head coaches in that tweet that are not going to be there. I'm not at liberty to say which one. It's nothing top secret. I just don't think they would love me advertising. Hey, this guy's not going to be there in the fan base. You'll figure out which ones aren't there. But one of them told me off
Starting point is 00:11:58 the record that, you know, it becomes a socializing event for a lot of the coaches and then they get to the drills and everyone's hungover and we're watching it and it's all the same stuff that we can watch the scouts and the gms those guys have to be there like you need to look at these guys apples to apples there's still great value the medicals are incredibly important and trust me the entire rams medical staff will be there the interviews are important but all of it's on tape all of it's on film and in sean's case i think he's gonna come in for one day and then he hit me up yesterday and he's like i'm not coming in it i've got to get
Starting point is 00:12:29 working on actual game plans for next season and working with these new coaches doing it in indy is no different than us doing it here everything can be virtual now so mcveigh they do things differently in la and he's basically the first coach coming out there like i'm a head coach i'm not going to the combine yeah and i honestly that – honestly, that's definitely what McVay's thinking. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Game plan. Week one is right around the corner.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Yeah, that's what he's saying. I mean, you know, he's got a new coach's contract right around the corner, just won a Super Bowl. It is a very short offseason because of the Super Bowl. He does have to put together his game plan. Oh, yeah. He lost a week. He lost a week.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Why would you waste another one looking at the future of the nfl i can't do that but i'm on your side here and i didn't get invited to the combine but everybody that i've talked to that's gone to the combine is like it's a miserable situation then you talk about every coach that i've talked to at the combine has basically said it's fucking worthless like we don't see anything but then the scouts the gms you talk to them about the combine they're like oh it's greatest thing of all time we get a chance to really analyze every single thing that we thought we saw on film and on tape i think that is the trend of the future shreks and that's why i don't think mcveigh is going to be the first one now mcveigh coming back
Starting point is 00:13:38 though to coaching was interesting because everybody thought maybe hey maybe we have the next madden here you know short-lived career, very successful, all in. Everybody loves him. Seems to be a media darling on Flying Coach with you. Him coming back to coach, I thought he was just saying, I'm coming back to run it back drunk, you know, like drunk words. I thought, I'll regret this tomorrow. But he had 20 mil on the table from Amazon.
Starting point is 00:14:02 He was flirting with potential retirement, and then he still came back. What do you think it was, because they won, or was any of that real? No, everything I say with Sean becomes taken as gospel, so I have to be careful with it because we do talk a lot, and the $20 million thing did not come from him, and I'm not sure if Amazon formally made any offers. I do know that once Troy Aikman took a deal, roughly $18 million a year from ESPN, Domino started to fall, and Sean was obviously the target,
Starting point is 00:14:29 and there was conversations to be had. At the end of the day, though, speaking with him, while he was talking about these possible ideas, like, isn't that crazy? I'm on the back page of the New York Post with a headline saying insanity about the money that I'm being offered for football. He was also talking with Liam Cohen, the offensive coordinator at Kentucky and telling him to uproot his life and come and be his
Starting point is 00:14:50 offensive coordinator at the Rams. And he was recruiting seven other coaches to leave good situations to come. So in the back of my mind, knowing Sean, I was like, is he really going to have Liam Cohen leave Kentucky and leave a million dollar deal to come to the Rams for him not to be the coach? Is he really going to ask a lot of to the Rams for him not to be the coach. So you're really going to ask a lot of these men to leave good situations to be coaches. So I was curious. And at the end of the day, I think a lot of it had to do with Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cup, and the fact that he created a market unintentionally for himself. So when you're an NFL head coach, you can't be a free agent. You're under contract and it's usually getting the
Starting point is 00:15:24 extension or whatever. Suddenly Amazon and maybe Fox whoever else was was knocking on the door suddenly there was a market for sean that's new coaches don't usually have markets where there's multiple suitors where you can go back and say hey there's money in hand you have to match me so i don't think it was very dramatic with the rams i think on friday when shfter put that tweet out, I think this was a couple weeks in the works, and when Amazon came in, it kind of accelerated things. He's going to be paid very handsomely from the L.A. Rams, but he's not going anywhere. He's going to be their coach.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And I think he enjoyed the thought of being courted, and I think he liked the thought of someday being a head coach. But he wasn't leaving Stafford Cup and Donald, not yet. How about him getting $12 million a year to be the head coach of the Los Angeleseles ring wow that's a lot that seems hey pat that seems awfully modest if you're asking me hey how about sean mcveigh making 20 million a year i'm joking i'm joking congrats if he needs a second home he can buy one congrats to sean he deserves it by the way. If he needs a second home, he can buy one now. Congrats to Sean. He deserves it, by the way. The guy deserves it. He's had success.
Starting point is 00:16:27 He also has a franchise, a program that will go all in around him. So I'm happy he's taking advantage of that. And whenever he decides to get into TV, we will all be very grateful, I think, as fans. You said that coaches can't create a market for themselves normally or a free agency. You can't if you just retire, right? Sean Payton, right? He retires from the New Orleans Saints. Now I'm reading something on Sports Illustrated
Starting point is 00:16:48 where allegedly the Miami Dolphins were trying to put together Sean Payton and Tom Brady, two people that had just retired. Is that for an ownership group that they're talking about, or is that for playing? And do you know anything about this? I don't. I saw the report, too, and nothing when it comes to the Dolphins and Steven Ross
Starting point is 00:17:05 and their quarterback situation ever shocks me when they had the head coaching vacancy wait that's from Florio hold on this is from hold on Shregs Shregs hold on is this from Florio or for Sports Illustrated what's it say across the bottom I can't read the bottom
Starting point is 00:17:19 that says via Florio so via Florio okay so Florio has ties right Florio has ties go. I'm sorry. Pretty good, right? He's got pretty good sources, too. I think in this situation, you have Stephen Ross and you have Tom Brady. Now, Stephen Ross owns Equinox. He owns related properties. He owns a ton of real estate. He's a kingpin in New York City. He's a Michigan man.
Starting point is 00:17:42 This is not shocking that he had been possibly courting Tom Brady. The Sean Payton thing's new, but when you're down to, all right, we've had nine head coaching hires, and the Dolphins are one of the last ones to hire somebody to end up with, Mike McDaniel, which might be the fine decision. I'm not shocked that they would say, let's at least bat around the idea of Sean Payton. Why not?
Starting point is 00:18:00 Especially if the prime job that Sean Payton was looking for, you know, money-wise with the broadcasting career wasn't right around the corner. So I'm not shocked by any of this, but I also can't confirm or deny it. Okay. Love that. Appreciate your honesty. Let's talk about Kyler Murray and Eric Burkhart kind of, you know, publicly shaming the Cardinals almost into giving him a new deal
Starting point is 00:18:22 with two years left on his contract. With that being said, I hope Kyler gets all the money in the world. The Cardinals almost into giving him a new deal with two years left on his contract. With that being said, I hope Kyler gets all the money in the world. I hope every player gets a billion dollars. Okay. This is interesting business, though, to go about doing it this way. I think in the NFL the way it is, but maybe this will lay a new blueprint on how to get more money if you're a star player. How do you feel like this works out and what do you think is going on in Arizona?
Starting point is 00:18:47 There's so many interesting pieces to this. I love breaking it down with you and your audience. So here's the first interesting piece. Kyler does this Monday morning as everyone's flying into the combine. Guess who's speaking Tuesday to the media and can't get out of it? Steve Kime, the general manager of the Cardinals. So by putting this thing out there on a Monday, you set the agenda for the topics. And it's not just going to be the five beat writers in Arizona and the four local radio hosts. Now it becomes a national story.
Starting point is 00:19:13 It might become the national media availability. It's 20 minutes of grilling among Kyler's contract. It puts him in a corner. Second part that's interesting with this. Very often when we go through this, and i'm often a subject of the text it's hey just fyi you know my player is 24 years old is coming off you know two pro bowl seasons and you should mention that on air on good morning football when you're talking about his contract situation eric burkhart skips over the schrager skips over the chef just skips over
Starting point is 00:19:42 the glazer skips over the garifolo andips over the Glazer, skips over the Garofalo and the Rappaport, and goes right there publicly and says, my client is 24 years old, is a two-time Pro Bowler, and has taken a team from three wins to an 11-win season, and the first time they're in the playoffs since before he got there. It's a public salvo that we have not
Starting point is 00:19:59 seen often. The last and final piece that makes this very intriguing and interesting, he's represented by Eric Burkhart. Burkhart's a great agent. One of the top guys. He's good at what he does. Number one client is Kyler Murray. If Kyler Murray gets paid a $40 million deal, that's a major payday
Starting point is 00:20:15 for Eric Burkhart. Eric Burkhart's other big client, ironically enough, oh, I don't know, the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals, Cliff Kingsbury. I don't know where Cliff stands in all this and i hopefully will see cliff this week and we'll get some answers but oh yeah you want to talk about all right oh my god goodwill you've got the general manager kime you've got kingsbury the head coach represented by one agent you've got kyler the quarterback represented by the same agent. The agent is taking open swings at
Starting point is 00:20:45 the ownership group for being frugal or they don't like the way that they're doing it. This is really interesting stuff. There's a lot of people involved, a lot of personalities involved. I'm really curious to see how it all goes down. Basically, it's pay him his money or trade him and someone
Starting point is 00:21:01 else will. I've said this before. Someone will pay Kyler Murray what he's looking for. And if the Cardinals aren't that team, the agent is basically saying, I don't want to drag this out. He's putting some heat on them. Let's make a move. Let's do it now. Burkhart just yammed on ownership over there.
Starting point is 00:21:18 This has to tie back to the – now, it's alleged. It's alleged. Remember? It's all alleged. We don't know. Everybody has their sources. Everybody has different information. They're hearing different things.
Starting point is 00:21:29 The playoff bonus, you know, the playoff check for the coaches, there was allegedly a decision potentially made. I don't know what the outcome of that was. I do not know what the outcome of that was. Heard it was an interesting conversation, though, dialogue. Okay, well, I'll just say what I was told then from my sources. Sources told me that originally the owner was not going to pay the coaches their playoff checks because they didn't win.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Now, I did not know this was the case. All players are guaranteed those playoff checks. I guess the coaches in the contract, it is at the owner's discretion in the contract. It actually says that. I didn't know that. Yeah, exactly. So, allegedly, they were not going to
Starting point is 00:22:05 get their playoff checks because of how it all ended and how upset the owner was and the media was reporting of course he'd be upset would you not be upset yeah we would be upset also if i didn't get the fucking money i was thought i was getting as well so if this guy represents cliff kingsbury who cliff would be the one that would be pissed off about his guys not getting their check and he represents kyler oh my this dude hey huh oh you don't want to pay oh you don't play i know it's just like fifteen thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars for each coach you don't want to pay that because you're bad okay how about this we want fucking 50 million a year that is wild that could be what happened
Starting point is 00:22:41 that legitimately could be what happened oh come on't know. Oh, Shregs. Come on, Pete. All right, go ahead, Ty. Shregs, what's your plan of attack for this week when you come here? Oh, my God. Think about making that decision. Think about making that decision. Think about making that decision not to play the coaches or pay the coach.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Now, I don't know if this happened, but it's all alleged. This is all alleged. This is all anonymous. I don't know either. And I'll tell you, Cliff and Bidwell had a meeting, I guess, last week. Cliff is in good terms with the owner, and they're in good place, and I think everyone wants Kyler.
Starting point is 00:23:11 But there is, look, this one individual, one agent, controls the head coach and the quarterback. It's interesting. Now, as for my plan of attack, it's a great question. I'm doing the morning show on Good Morning Football every day, 7 to 10. But I'm also going to be doing the drills on Thursday, Saturday. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Saturday. There we go.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Okay, Shreks. I'm excited. I'm excited. But in between, I got my spots, like I told you. So I'm going to be doing dinners at some places. But another spot, I like to finish the show at around 10, and I'll meet up with a GM every single day. dinners at some places, but another spot. I like to finish the show at around 10, and I'll meet up with a GM every single day.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I've got different ones lined up, and I'll just pick their brand, but we go to a place. I'll give it out. I mean, it's not only helping local business, right? Cafe Patichou. Hey, you don't have to help them out. They got seven restaurants in Indianapolis, that company. Unbelievable restaurant. I have annual, like this,
Starting point is 00:24:06 I missed the combine the last year, but I've got annual traditions where I'll meet up with this GM at Patichew, and I'll meet up with this GM. And it's not always about the draft. It's about big picture stuff. So it's a great question. It's almost like I'm booking dates. And if the guys want to meet with me, great. I like it because I use it on air. And it's also good for
Starting point is 00:24:22 background knowledge. And if not, that's understandable. I'm just a media hack. Why would they want to waste their time with me? I'm excited to get the information that only you can get because it seems like you and Ian Rapport have the same style. Now, Cafe Patichou, I'm not sure you're able to do that, but you'll be able to find Rapport at it. Kilroy's probably all about it.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Oh, yeah. Let's get you some booze. Let's get you some booze. I said some bad stuff about you. Let's get you two shots. I can't wait for you to get to the city. Thank you for all the love you're giving everybody, by the way. I love it. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Schrags, on top of that, though, you kind of just mentioned what –
Starting point is 00:24:52 are there any stories specifically that you're looking to do or not really? When you come to this, you say you have these pre-planned things, but is there anything you're kind of like prying for or looking for that we should be expecting in the coming weeks? Yeah, I think the Rodgers thing is fascinating because at some point it's just you know you guys obviously talk to him on his side at some point from the packer side it's like do we really want to do this all over again like can we get it done before free agency at least if there's going to be a a certain deal if we're going to be making a deal can we do it at this point can we at least have communication so if there's a market for Rodgers, which of course there is,
Starting point is 00:25:25 and multiple teams are going to want to trade three first round picks for him, I think that would be the market. And I think they would like to have those conversations at the combine. So I don't think we'll have a decision necessarily from Aaron, but I think the Packers will know their contingency plans
Starting point is 00:25:39 at the combine through their meetings that they'll have with other teams. All right, safe travels. We'll see you in Indianapolis. Thank you for all the love and information i just got to the uh the lovely place we call la guardia airport and i hopefully uh we could see each other while i'm there if you guys want i'll be on my text hit me up i would love to meet up can't wait to see you pal make sure on that plane now that mask perfect i know perfect placement perfect. Perfect. I'm in.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I'm in. All right, be safe. I don't want to be in any of those videos. Ladies and gentlemen, peace. Ladies and gentlemen. Appreciate that. Man, it's going to be hard to talk about anything. The Roger stuff, obviously, everybody's going to be invested in it.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I get it. And once again, remember the internet told me that Aaron's coming on here tomorrow. Uh-huh. Which is cool. It would be cool. I actually read that. I was like, oh's coming on here tomorrow. Uh-huh. Which is cool. Hey, it would be cool. Yeah. I actually read that. I was like, oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Sweet. Pretty fucking sweet. Pretty pumped up about that. I didn't even send him a text and say, hey, is this real or not? It's already booked. It's gospel. There you go. I guess it's already booked.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Z didn't even have it in his calendar. Oh, oh, Z, it wasn't in your calendar? I don't know what's going on. Me neither. Yeah, me neither. There's a lot been happening like that this way, but it's good to be in this particular spot because whenever we put a light on things, maybe it's real that wouldn. There's a lot been happening like that this way, but it's good to be in this particular spot because whenever we put a light on things,
Starting point is 00:26:46 maybe it's real that wouldn't normally get a light shined on it. That whole coach's bonus thing feels like a trickle down. Right? Yeah. Now Kyler's pissed about it because, you know. No, I don't think Kyler's. I think Kyler's definitely pissed about it. Like, hey, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:26:59 But also, I think like him and Cliff are pretty tight. Yeah. Cliff and his quarterback probably get. I mean, there is a ripple. And by the way, once again, this is all a legend. And this is from weeks and weeks ago, so it might have been resolved. But there was some real shit up brewing from the ownership choosing not to give the coaches their playoff bonus checks that are at the owner's discretion in the contract, which nobody knew.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Everybody just thought it was an automatic thing. And then who knows if that's been settled or not. Remember, we talked to Rappaport and said there was no official sit-down year-end meeting or whatever. It's like, well, because the report was that there was a meeting between, I think, Cliff, Keim, and Bidwell. And it ended bad or something like that. Then Rappaport put a quote, sweet. My sources are saying that there's no confirmed meeting has happened or whatever so then he came on
Starting point is 00:27:48 the show because my sources were telling me no no there was there was a potential little ha ha going on there so we asked Rappaport Rappaport said yeah the official wrap up year end meeting and I was like all in the details oh you're talking about the niche of confirming the story or not confirming
Starting point is 00:28:04 oh okay so now every single tweet you put out, we have to think like that? Ian, is that what's going on? And Ian had a little banter with us, I think, at the time, but who knows if that's been resolved. I feel like probably not. If he's representing the head coach and the player, that's what this all is here, I think. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:28:20 This is wild. Remember last year, Chandler Jones, right? Yes. Chandler Jones, he was pissed, and then he just played and dominated, had five sacks first game. I don't remember how else he did. Probably good. If you're a sack guy and you start with five,
Starting point is 00:28:34 I assume your season's going to be pretty good. Now, he didn't catch up with T.J. Watt somehow. Did he get hurt for a little bit this season, if I remember correctly? Whatever. They had that contract dispute happening. Yeah. Went out and paid J.J., AJ, have D-Hop. But now Kyler and the –
Starting point is 00:28:48 It's getting ugly in that beautiful city of Phoenix, it sounds like. I love that Kyler's agent also said, you know, Aaron deserves the 50, which he does. I mean, back to back MVP's, he deserves more than 50. But, I mean, if Aaron gets 50, it makes it a lot easier to say that, you know, Kyler should get 40. For those that don't know what we're referring to about Kyler, this is the letter that was placed out into the Internet world this morning
Starting point is 00:29:15 from Eric Burkhardt, who is his agent. Now, I want to let you know, trying to read this on my phone was difficult, let alone me reading it now across the room on a tv over there you should look at it it's very fascinating a lot of pundits on tv have quote tweeted this and said oh she just wants to pay a bunch of fucking money that's basically what this entire thing does it rolls out at the beginning all of kyler's and arizona's hopeful potential future goals, like this is what we want to do, we want to win a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Then it hits some of Kyler's accolades in there, what he has accomplished, what the team was like before he got there, and then now since he's been there. And then it wraps up with basically saying, hey, just fucking give us a long-term contract. And then Kyler remains hopeful that the organization chose this to commit so that he can continue leading the Cardinals to further success and value for many years to come. And it is Kyler giving the bow. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Keep moving with his logo at the bottom. Yeah, and he's going to get it, right? It's from the desk of Kyler. That's right. I honestly, and you can hear how I kind of talk, I want every player to get paid. Okay, and that's how I want it to do. I don't think this is necessarily, like in my idea,
Starting point is 00:30:32 okay, this is an interesting way to go about doing business. Now, bad or good, I don't know. If it gets the deal done, I guess it's good business. But this is an interesting way to go about doing business, especially in the NFL where the same people are normally in a lot of places, you're going to have to do business with each other. So Eric is obviously a very successful agent. He said, fuck it, I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:30:52 But now knowing that it's potentially a bigger, where all the parties probably understand why he's doing this outside of Arizona, it's interesting. And if he gets paid, I mean, it's all well worth it, I guess. Well, and you don't want to be left without a quarterback, especially after the year before they drafted Kyler Murray. They drafted Josh Rosen. They know how difficult it is to hit on guys.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Wait until Mack Jones. Right? Going into after Kyler gets however many a year here from this entire thing, one week before training camp, Mack Jones released from the desk of Mac Jones. If Bill Belichick, especially after what he did to Stephon Gilmore, now JC Jackson, if Bill Belichick wants me to come back,
Starting point is 00:31:34 he needs to pay me at least $2 million more a year than Kyler, that's no bull. Cent says he's not coming. That's it? That's no bull. By the time Mac Jones is coming. Great tagline. I can see it. That's no bull. By the time, you know, Mac Jones is looking for another contract, he will definitely pay him.
Starting point is 00:31:49 He should be next year. That's what everybody's saying right now. He's after year three. If he gets it after his third. Yeah, but if it works after year three, it'll work after year two. Especially if you had a little bit of success. Now, Mac Jones was just the first young quarterback
Starting point is 00:32:02 that came to my mind. So congrats to you for having that particular guy. Joe Burr, though, should say, build me an indoor facility right now. And also, I'd like $55 million. I went to the Super Bowl in the AFC because in that letter, Eric Burghardt said that for two years straight, Kyler was able to make the Pro Bowl in a NFC heavy quarterback, NFC league. Now, everybody knows that almost every quarterback that has ever played in the NFL will make
Starting point is 00:32:32 a Pro Bowl. Right. Because the amount of quarterbacks that make each roster and then the people that don't go and then the replacements. But I don't think I'm not talking about Kyler getting in on any, you know, asterisks. He's earned his way in there. Okay, I get it. I understand that.
Starting point is 00:32:48 But quarterbacks making the Pro Bowl, it's like, yeah, of course. I mean, I think Neil O'Donnell made it the year he threw 14 picks in the Super Bowl. Tommy Maddox was in there a couple times. I mean, he's a superstar, obviously. But I'm just – it is interesting that if you have success and you're a guy at that position, I guess if this works, I don't know why everybody else wouldn't be thinking like, yeah, we should go get our money right fucking now if we want to. That's how other leagues operate, I guess.
Starting point is 00:33:17 That's how other businesses would operate too. If you are something that is a necessity to a company that is doing very, very, very, very, very, very well. And you're looking around and you're seeing every other company that is in your avenue of comparison. And, oh, they're getting paid. They're getting paid. They're getting paid. They're getting paid. The way this normally goes is you sign a contract to get paid for this amount of years.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And then once that contract's up, okay, you agree to another one. But if this starts happening, I mean, why wouldn't you if you're a second year third year quarterback into the nfl say hey you want to roll the dice and try to find another me or you want to pay me right now and i know that the rookie contract is something everybody's excited for the quarterback to be on that's why kyler even laid out in there hey we'll make your salary cap hit less than what it would be next year anyways and we'll kind of kick this can down the road. Don't even worry. You can give us a $300 million deal. Don't even worry about it. We'll pay for it later.
Starting point is 00:34:09 It's all going to work out. That's what's going to start happening. And no bull. You need to look out for it up there with Bill. I hope so. I mean, if Matt gets to that point, that means we're in a great spot. But I mean, Kyler, he has one of the... Gets to what point? To the point where, you know, he's a pro bowler, but an actual Pro Bowler.
Starting point is 00:34:27 See how he was. He actually won the Pro Bowl. That was the asterisk. He actually won the Pro Bowl. That was pretty good. Yeah, thank you. I mean, I've seen it enough. I've not given it a go ever at home or in real life.
Starting point is 00:34:39 But to remind you that he did win the goddamn Pro Bowl. Yeah. He gritted his ass all the way through that entire thing. We were just talking about the asterisks, and that was definitely more of an asterisk Pro Bowl. But gritted his ass all the way through that entire thing. We were just talking about the asterisks. That was definitely more of an asterisks Pro Bowl, but I mean, Lamar Jackson, that's who. I don't want to have to get into this. Asterisk.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Asterisk. No. Asterisk. Asterisk. Boom. Okay. Asterisk. Asterisk? That's two R's. I think it risk. All that. After risk? That's two R's. I think it's only one R.
Starting point is 00:35:07 That's just a good way to remember how to say it. Yeah, yeah, you're right. That would be smart. I had this entire situation happen to me on college game day. I mean, that word's tough. Really? Yeah. I said, put an asterisk next to that one.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And I believe Reese on the way back was like, well, definitely think about having to put an asterisk on that. I did. I was like, oh, shit. Jesus. So I brought it back, and obviously, I'm like, asterisk. I didn't know that either. I thought it was big old X there. If you would have asked me, I'm throwing bang, right at the end of that word.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It's not, but he's still a fucking pro bowler. He's an unbelievable stud, and he's going to know he's a guy after this year, right? You knew before he even started playing he was a guy. Yeah, we knew years ago that he was a guy, and hopefully we can get that receiver two weeks from now in free agency. But Lamar Jackson has won an MVP, and that's another guy that's going into what, his fourth year, fifth year?
Starting point is 00:35:58 I think Schefter said on Ari Mirov's My Sports Update pro football focus podcast. Video edition? Huh? Video edition? I saw it as a quote just a quote nice might have been if I would have slid maybe the video would have been sure I do like that that is just what Instagram has become by the way shitty quality
Starting point is 00:36:17 photo original nice video that's right very interesting but Schefter said I would never step foot on the field again if I'm Lamar Jackson okay until I get a new contract I believe is what Schefter said on Ari Miro's pro football focus at my sport update podcast video edition that we had seen for the first time just last week Lamar is going into his fifth season so they picked up the fifth year option he's going to get paid 23 million in 2022 and then he's going to be a free agent if they don't give him yeah what if Lamar doesn't?
Starting point is 00:36:46 What if Lamar's like, nah, actually, I'm thinking about just playing this out. $23 million is a lot of fucking millions, dude. And also, I'm pretty popular on the internet. I'll probably make some money there if I have to. And I'll be a free agent. And, I mean, people are floating 50Ms out there for everybody. Every team is thinking 50Ms for whoever. It's becoming normal. Go back to Miami, maybe. Go back home.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Not that Tua doesn't have an option. Maybe Tua has a good year next year and he does this. He sends a fucking email out. The first couple years, the owner was paying the coach to lose. I was benched in two minute drills. Two loose. I'm worth more. I want
Starting point is 00:37:27 $75 million a year. Right now. Right now. I ain't playing. It's two a time. It's time to pay two a time. And there's a pretty, you know, good team in Central America who's got a great offensive line. Central America. They're going to get NFL's going. Middle of America?
Starting point is 00:37:43 I think it's still North America. The games in Mexico are getting to me now with the Cardinals. But the Colts would be, I mean, if they got along. One thing we have to remember, Mexico is North America. Yes, it is. We're Central America. What? Central America is that other part right there.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Oh, Panama. Panama. There you go. Okay, okay. And then South America is right down there and below. Central, in between the two Americas. Central, very important, though. I think that's where a lot of things come and go.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Big canal. Yeah, but I don't think just Panama, though. I think that is a very... Several. Bogota. Yeah, Cologne. That's in Cologne. What?
Starting point is 00:38:16 Belize, El Salvador. Yeah. El Salvador. Guatemala. Wow, yeah. Belize, by the way, second largest coral reef in the world. Look at that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Save the reef. You guys know it? Won the fucking eighth grade. Look at that. Wow. Save the reef. You guys know it? Won the fucking eighth grade geography bowl with that. Might become number one eventually, I mean, because of the stuff that's happening. Central America. Australia. Oh, yeah. The islands aren't central.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I never knew they connected. No way. Cuba? Trinidad, Tobago, I know. The Dominican is not part of Central America. Oh, no, it says Caribbean. Sorry. It's not Caribbean.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It's not Caribbean. Sorry, I'll move that in a little bit. All right, we were very confused. That's on us. Anyways, back to what you were saying. You're talking about Indianapolis? Yes, because obviously... Oh, my God!
Starting point is 00:38:58 Lamar and Jonathan Taylor in the backfield with that offensive line, with that defense. It'd be unfair. Oh, my God! Hey, answer the phone, hardball. I'm going to give you a call. You're 100% right. I mean, they would be unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:39:12 That's a Super Bowl. By the time he comes around, too, Derek Henry and Tennessee are probably on their way out. If you went to Louisville, it's right down the road. Right down the road. Right down the road. Doesn't mind the cold. Baltimore's, you know, it's not much different. We'll be loved in Indy, by the way.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Loved. Loved in Indy. About eight Jackson jerseys will be in the crowd. Baltimore's, you know, is not much different. We'll be loved in Indy, by the way. Loved. Loved in Indy. About eight Jackson jerseys will be in the crowd. Are you kidding me? People bought Carson Wentz. Now we're talking. And that guy stinks. He doesn't deserve it.
Starting point is 00:39:36 No, he doesn't. He doesn't deserve it. Talk about the MVP of the goddamn league. Send him to Baltimore. He can back up Tyler Huntley. Boom. Exactly. We're talking parades, though.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yeah. Super Bulls. If I played in Tyler Huntley. Boom. Exactly. We're talking parades. Yeah. Super Bulls. If I played in this era, it'd be curtains, but that's a big shit. But it's not my time. It's not my time. That was great. Lamar Jackson is a cult man. What if he goes to Miami too as a cult?
Starting point is 00:40:00 All right, so we're out on that again. Okay. All right, let's get to a break. We'll go for two. Two is Miami quarterback. He's about to have a hell of a season. He is. He's get to a break Two is a Miami quarterback He's about to have a hell of a season He is He was good I never understood
Starting point is 00:40:13 Why what was happening to Tua was happening Because the little bits of Tua I'd watch I'm like this fucking guy They're all short passes It's like a lot of offenses, if you look, are throwing the ball within three yards of the line of scrimmage. The quarterback is just throwing it back across the field. I think that is something they say about, oh, he's a game manager.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Well, fuck. I'll tell you who is it. Carson Wentz. He did not manage the game at all. That's not a shot at Carson. It is, actually. Hey, there is a... Why does anybody just say that?
Starting point is 00:40:49 That's how we describe it. Hey, Carson, get better at the managing of the game thing. That's it. Oh, he can do that. That's his focus. Manage the game. Somewhere else. Do that in, you know, Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Pittsburgh for sure. Fucking nause. Here we go to Springs. Here we go. We got other plans. Here we go to Springs. Here we go. Man, Lamar Jackson is a cult.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Baltimore to Indianapolis, obviously there's a little bit of not exactly the most love because the Mayflower back there in 80-whatever. He's free agency, though. Dean lets him go. He doesn't sign there. Oh, that's one more. Hey, Lamar, hold! Hold!
Starting point is 00:41:31 Come on over to Indy, dude. You'll love it. It'll be fun. A all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, Super Bowl champion, college football national champion, COVID survivor, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hunt. Hey, AJ! You got a new Hunt. You got
Starting point is 00:41:46 a new costume. You're doing a Steve Jobs thing. You've been wearing this every day. I don't know if you think I didn't notice or whatnot. Oh, no, you had that wolf thing his first day back. I do wear this thing a lot, but yeah, I don't have a costume like you, but it does actually sound like a good idea
Starting point is 00:42:01 the more I think about it. Well, I mean, I'm not the originator. Obviously, Steve Jobs is, but that guy's a bad dad so you know i guess we shouldn't take anything he says seriously uh he changed the world aj hope you had an incredible weekend great to see you don't know if you watch our conversation with schrager this kyler murray um basically from the desk of kyler murray via eric burkhart his agent. That whole story got more fascinating this morning when we learned that he represents Cliff Kingsbury as well. And allegedly, our sources had told us there was maybe some coaching beef going on with ownership.
Starting point is 00:42:34 So Burkhart comes in and literally yams on the Arizona Cardinals the day before Steve Thomas' talk tomorrow, basically saying, hey, get a long-term deal for Kyler. He's got two years left on his contract, his rookie contract. Get a deal done or else. Wild business play. He might get paid. This might set a whole new blueprint for the future. What are your thoughts on it all?
Starting point is 00:42:55 It is pretty interesting, the fact that that agent represents the head coach and the starting quarterback. But I instantly started thinking, all right, did Cliff know this was coming out before he put it out well like do you think cliff was okay with it could be all right hey man like is it cliff and kyler versus the the front office is that what we're looking at here well i don't want to say that's what i'm alluding towards but i think i'm saying it does it is very interesting when you lay it out that way saying how oh wait they allegedly didn't get these playoff bonuses to
Starting point is 00:43:24 the coaches. All of this happens. I don't know. It's going to be a fun next couple, what, 10 to 14 days, I guess, to see how they handle it. The NFL is full of so much shit. Oh, yeah. Like, this is just so much real shit. You know, I started watching Secession a little bit.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Ooh. Yes. I've only seen a couple episodes. I try. I've gotten into it. Just all that shit that just happens, it seems like. Man, the NFL is so full. So full of shit.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Yeah. This story is a massive story. This could change the way future. Mack Jones, Joey Burrow, numerous quarterbacks that come in and have early success saying, nah, I ain't waiting for my free. You're going to pay me now. And with the way the salary cap gymnastics can work, they're paying Patrick Mahomes 500 million dollars over the next 10
Starting point is 00:44:07 years and somehow a salary cap hit is less than the punter on the team there's like very interesting situations happening with the salary cap gymnastics and if you're a young great quarterback I could see how business-wise it makes sense to take advantage of it but this one in arizona just seems so fascinating with all the layers of shit aj well it the the very last like paragraph was that a threat to the cardinals that if hey if you don't extend me i'm not gonna be here it kind of i mean let's go to it it's gonna be hard to read here from the screen because it was tough to read on my phone i'm not a great reader um uh i'm not a great reader so i'm not 100 sure here we go yeah how this was the proper way to let this one go zoom out yeah uh i don't know how this was what they decided upon yeah note section screenshot yeah much more legible than this thing but this does look super professional because of the letterhead at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:45:07 It is now simply up to the Cardinals to decide if they prioritize their rapidly improving 24-year-old, already two-time Pro Bowl quarterback who led the organization from two wins before his arrival to 11 wins in their first playoff appearance in five years. Or, rather, if they choose to financially prioritize commitment to other areas and continuing to merely talk about addressing Kyler's long-term future as their QB. Unfortunately, every player, coach, and executive in the NFL knows, parenthesize or should know, that words and hypothetical contractual promises are regularly dismissed and fleeting in this business. Kyler remains hopeful that the organization chooses to commit so...
Starting point is 00:45:58 I don't understand how I'm reading that, by the way. I've read that wrong. by the way. I've read that wrong. Chose is... Kyler remains hopeful that the organization chose to commit so that he can... Am I reading that wrong? A spell mistake, right? I think it's a double O.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Should be chooses. Chooses should be another O. I said that last hour. I said it the first time I read it, but once again, I'm a doofus, so I just assumed this guy did this entire thing asking for multiple hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah, right. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Kyler remains hopeful that the organization chooses to commit so that he can continue leading the – I don't think so. I think it's supposed to be chooses. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Kyler remains hopeful that the organization chooses to commit so that he can continue – oh, 1-0 in the end. That's tough. Oh, my God. That is tough. Slip of in the end. That's tough. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:46:45 That is tough. Slip of an old message. It's tough to see. It makes you, I don't know, it makes you not think it's an error because it looks so professional. And there's certain areas are bold. There's the letterhead, the picture of Kyler. It makes you think, wouldn't you run this by a few people? Oh, this is a hundred, couple, not a hundred, probably like three to four hundred million dollar negotiating tactic.
Starting point is 00:47:06 You spell a word wrong. Can't happen. Can't do it. CFO Phil would have spit on this interview. So quick. So what happens if they don't sign him
Starting point is 00:47:15 to a long-term deal in the next three months? So he's not playing, right? He's going to baseball. He's picking up a baseball bat. They don't have a league.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah. Arizona knows he's gone. Well, he's still got FaZe Clan. FaZe Clan. Still got FaZe Clan if he wants to. I assume he's made enough money at this point we'll continue to make enough money off the field if he wants to i don't know is that what he's thinking i don't know i don't know what what's
Starting point is 00:47:34 his plan if he i don't know he's saying so he's only unhappy because they have not probably had serious talks about extending him yet but how many how much i don't know isn't this when they would start right now i don't know isn't this when they would start right now i don't know i i think they said that they have had talks but it's all been fugace okay like yeah we want him for the future yeah we love kyler one for the future he's in our long-term plans they just said last week i think in the conversation and eric burkhart now one day before kime has to answer national media tomorrow at the combine. He's scheduled to go tomorrow, I think at 11. I think he's at 11 or noon.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I don't remember the exact time. But now he has to answer questions about this. And Kime's like, fuck it, they're mad at the owners. What if he comes out and says, Kime, by the way, bald head, right? He's a big bald-headed dude. He has a good time, I think. What if he comes out and he's like, the owner's pissed. I mean, I don't know what you want me to do.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I would love to have Kyler around. I'd love to pay him. But also, like, there's a whole thing going on with the coaches. Next question. That would be awesome. That would be. I would appreciate his authenticity and him being so transparent if that was the case. I don't think we're going to see that happen.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Yeah, I don't think so either. But Steve Kime wants Kyler, I would assume. The general manager would like Steve Kime. He drafted him. And he's in a position, right, the GM contractually, job description,
Starting point is 00:48:52 hey, you sign guys, you make the team, or whatever. But in this particular case, I assume he's not the only one making the decision. I just assume that's not the way it is. You probably have the owner involved, and the owner's potentially involved with the entire... Oh, that's awesome. So much shit, dude shit dude so much shit and that's just the beginning but how about bocciari he's converting some of his contract into a signing bonus uh to open up more space
Starting point is 00:49:15 and everybody's saying they're doing this for aaron rogers they had to do this anyways field yates is reporting that packers have converted 11.58 million of left tackle david bocciari's 2022 compensation into a signing bonus, creating significant cap space for the season per source. A busy week for the Packers' cap continues, says Field. So Bakhtiari changes $11.58. This is the most. Aaron Jones did this as well.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Yep, Kenny Clark. Kenny Clark, D-tackle, did this. And everybody's saying this is because of Aaron. This is because of Aaron. Probably a part of the entire thing. But also also they were like 40 million dollars over the cap they had to start doing this salary cap gymnastics if they really wanted to go or just cut everybody they are still 28 million over the cap is what every website says yeah we don't know if this Bakhtiari um move is changing that or not But there are still some teams that are way over the cap
Starting point is 00:50:06 and are going to have to get to work at some point. So I clicked on Bakhtiari on Spotrack or whatever it's called, and on February 26th, they have listed under transactions, converted $2 million of 2022 base salary and a $9.5 million roster bonus in the signing bonus, clearing $9.16 of cap space with Green Bay. So I think they do have it factored into that number. I could be wrong, though.
Starting point is 00:50:26 So $28 million over the cap. They still have to make some moves. Cowboys still over. Saints were once at 70 over. They're all the way down to 49 somehow. Good for them. Yeah. Good for them.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Michael Thomas, I think, this weekend. Think about them going in every day, that contract guru. What the fuck are we doing? Hasn't slept in weeks. They got, got like conspiracy theory boards yeah they got a tire we could do uh we could take this money i guess and kind of just shove it into here and then we can move this shell over here and then we can got a take from that one and fucking also who is our starting quarterback next year yeah man that's the biggest question
Starting point is 00:51:02 james is running today i was about to say for for the first time since his ACL surgery in October, I believe Jameis Winston is back on a treadmill. This follows some videos of him looking very normal working out. And when I say that, I mean this is a very normal looking workout. Oh, yeah. This is not Jameis Winston's normal workout. No. I've seen other humans do this workout.
Starting point is 00:51:22 That's why we're saying this is not a normal Jameis Winston workout He looks good He's running Pro Football Focus didn't have him on the top 15 free agents Or whatever Jameis I mean there's a guy who is in a much better quarterback market Now than he was a year ago
Starting point is 00:51:40 Got $1 million Two years ago gets $1 million To be the backup Drew Brees Then he signs to be the quarterback drew breeze then he signs big quarterback him and tasem hill are battling get some games gets hurt still dances in the locker room afterwards he's beloved by his teammates there's a guy that could find himself in a great situation i don't know about the money but what a team because there's a lot of teams that need quarterbacks right now aj uh yeah i'd say so and they're all scrambling because they don't know what they're going to do. I guess,
Starting point is 00:52:06 when will the first thing happen as far as quarterbacks to where a team can solidify? God, do we have to wait until the draft? You tell me, dude. I woke up this morning and the internet told me,
Starting point is 00:52:17 Aaron's coming on this show tomorrow to make his decision. Oh. Awesome. Good job booking him. Well, I didn't. Did you? Nope.
Starting point is 00:52:25 So he's not coming on? What do they say? Who's they? The internet told me he's coming on tomorrow. Oh, cool. Maybe they will entice him to come on then. Maybe they'll pressure him to come back on. Oh, is that what they're doing? Is that what people do on the internet?
Starting point is 00:52:39 Maybe. They try, I think. Oh, public pressure. I don't know if that's going to sway Aaron. That may push him the other way. Thanks for kicking Aaron off our show tomorrow. Oh, public pressure. Yeah. I don't know if that's going to sway Aaron. That may push him the other way. Thanks for kicking Aaron off our show tomorrow. I have not talked to him. Legitimately, I have not talked to him.
Starting point is 00:52:53 The internet came up with he was ready to make his decision though, I guess. Do you know anything on that? I know nothing on what Aaron is doing right now. It would be nice if we maybe get a check in. Hey, man, where are you at? Send me your location. What are you doing? Drop a pin, dude. That's a lot. It would be nice if we maybe get a check in. Hey man, where are you at? Some of your location. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:06 What are you doing? Drop a pin, dude. I'll be there. Yeah. Some of your, your ordinance, right,
Starting point is 00:53:10 Pat? Yeah. Yeah. Co, need two of them though. One of them will only get you, you know, to a large area.
Starting point is 00:53:16 You need coordinates. Anyways, that was good learning, man. I'm happy you were there for that. You ain't never going to fuck it up again. Not that you ever would. That was an interesting one.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I need your ordinance. Everybody's like, what? Send me the fucking ordinance. Okay, I need to get in the goddamn thing. The address won't work. What are ordinances? Ammo? You're going to send some ammo?
Starting point is 00:53:36 Some RPGs? I don't know if that's an ordinance. It's like a rule that a city makes, too. That is an ordinance, I guess. So somebody had to piece through what i was talking about are you talking about coordinates bingo that's how you get those needle that was how we had to get into that fucking convention center in la by the way because no address we get anyways let us know where uh what aaron's gonna do before he does please hey let's pivot
Starting point is 00:53:58 to the nba the nba is awesome there are so many stories bouncing around. I turned on a game last night. It was the Pelicans traveling to Los Angeles to play the Lakers, and they were down 30. The Lakers are down 30. LeBron was getting booed with the ball in hand in the crypt. He threw it, turnover, threw the ball just to somebody else, blocked. Then there's video showing of them launching the ball into the crowd on a full-court pass. There's air balls.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I think Russ and LeBron both had seven turnovers each. At one point, Russ had 10 points, zero assists. He's a point guard. 10 points, zero assists, seven turnovers. It is all hell breaking loose in Los Angeles. One big disappointment. That's not the only story. There's a lot going on in the association.
Starting point is 00:54:40 To break it all down, insider for the Athletic and Stadium, ladies and gentlemen, Sean Cheronyan. Hey, Sean Cheronyan. Yo, Pat, you kept saying ordinance. I thought you were talking about the vaccine mandates or something. Okay, let's dive right into it because that is a part of this entire NBA thing as well. The ordinance in New York will allow spectators into the arena who are not vaccinated but the private sector ruling that New York City has on its companies employees are not allowed to be unvaccinated and where is that an accurate assessment of what's going on this sounds like a massive hypocrisy happening with the biggest star
Starting point is 00:55:18 on the team that is going to go on a run if this ordinance can get figured out. Yeah, you're 100% right, Pat, and that's why the Nets, and there are a lot of people around the league that, you know, at the end of the day, you're going to be up in arms because this just seems a little unfair, right? Because on one end, you're saying that, you know, Kyrie Irving can come to Barclays Center as a spectator after March 7th because the key to NYC mandate is lifted, but there is also a private
Starting point is 00:55:45 sector mandate that says that because he's an employee of a private business in the nets he's he's under the same types of uh vaccine mandates that the other employees in new york city that are working in those private businesses are under so it's it's i mean there's not much more you can say about it i mean it's a rule even eric Eric Adams has gone on record saying that it doesn't make much sense. Because, again, visiting players can come into New York City unvaccinated and play. But Kyrie Irving has not been able to all year. Now the main mandate in New York City for vaccination has been the key to NYC. And that's for all indoor gyms, dining centers, indoor entertainments.
Starting point is 00:56:22 That's being lifted. But there's still this private sector mandate that's preventing Kyrie Irving from playing in Barclays Center. And I don't know if it'll get lifted. I do think that there is – it seems inevitable that it will be lifted at some point before the playoffs start. The playoffs start April 16, April 17. There's kind of a sense around the league that eventually that will get lifted by then.
Starting point is 00:56:45 But it won't be, as of right now, it won't be when the March 7th key to NYC mandate is lifted. Well, I'm happy they care about everybody. That's what all these mandates are for, right? It's huge. It's absolutely to save everybody's life. They're actually saving Kyrie's life because if he was to shoot a basketball not vaccinated in New York,
Starting point is 00:57:10 much, much harder to do than get blacked out drunk and watch Kyrie shoot a basketball. That's literally the point that the Nets are making, right? It's like, how can you say that? And that's what, you know, I guess anyone, Nets fans, anyone that has any affiliation with the Nets. They're saying that how can Kyrie Irving literally sit on the bench or sit along the sideline of a bench or a sideline of a court or somewhere in the stands and be there, but he can't play in the game. Oh, no, no, no. I got it. Because if he's playing, he's running.
Starting point is 00:57:36 There's a better chance COVID. He's breathing. Because he's moving around. He's shaking. You know, he's got the right. It doesn't quite make sense. But again, Eric Adams said today, again, the mayor of New York City said today, it doesn't make much sense. He also agrees that whoever wrote the rules did a bad job writing the rules.
Starting point is 00:57:56 But they're the rules. And for now, Eric Adams is keeping the private mandate in motion. We'll see if that changes. And I think there's still some optimism that eventually that will be lifted as well. But, you know, the private mandate, then there's a rippling effect to that as well. So Eric Adams obviously has a lot to figure out. But this is a great thing for him to say, yeah, that's why I won, by the way. Yeah, I think this makes no sense either.
Starting point is 00:58:19 It's why you're currently calling me mayor, Eric Adams. It's dumb. Hey, by the way, we ran on this policy being dumb. I like that. Hopefully they'll get it fixed because that Nets team, hey, they might be able to go on a run. It feels like that Nets Sixers trade, that old Choms broke. Yeah, Choms. Even in the face of everybody saying that ain't happening, Choms.
Starting point is 00:58:39 That ain't happening, Choms. Ain't nobody trading anybody. Boom. Ben Simmons out of Philadelphia alongside Seth Curry and others up to the Nets for James Harden, who is now best friends with Joel Embiid in the best of the world. He's looking really good. He's looking healthy. I don't know if you've ever pulled that stunt, you know, the whole, you know, my hammy's a little iffy and then you go a week later and you're all good. Have you pulled that stunt before? So great journalism. I actually
Starting point is 00:59:04 used to do that on the field. So that was actually my tackling technique. So people and I would be in the open field. I would bait them to the sideline with potential injury or just fat, slow, white, and then they would go to the sideline. Wham! I didn't have any injuries. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:20 That was kind of my move. So I'm all about the good. Ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha how you doing keep it moving hard and did this out of houston remember harden was 400 pounds and then the first day he showed up in brooklyn he was like whatever in the best triple double yeah triple double easy so what is the deal they're both happy with what's going on here nets are better philly's better is that what you're reading yeah i mean i think both sides are happy that this was the outcome right from brooklyn they got ben simmons they got seth curry they got andre andre drummond's been a beast for
Starting point is 00:59:48 them already so that's clearly looking like a great pickup uh getting on a couple draft picks that'll be something that they'll utilize down the line but for for brooklyn it's about getting ben simmons right i report over the weekend he's been dealing with some back soreness as part of his ramp up yeah what's that all about hey what, everybody thinks he's doing that just to miss the Sixers game March 10th. No, no. He's dealing with a flare-up in his back, and maybe the Nets are saying that it's something to be expected and it's something that we're just going to treat day to day,
Starting point is 01:00:17 but there was an expectation that by now he was going to be really on the cusp of his comeback, and that's probably not going to be the case because he had a flare-up with his back, told during his ramp up process and so now he's going to need to strengthen that back area before he can make his return to the floor and whether that's you know pat with backs you see draymond green he's been out really the last uh i mean it's going to be about two months uh here coming up on march 9th clay thompson came back on january 9th that's the night that dreamaymond Green literally played
Starting point is 01:00:45 seven seconds or nine seconds, then had to sit. He hasn't played since. So he's just now getting back that back flexibility. He just did some 5-on-0 run yesterday. So the back is tricky. And so Ben Simmons, it could take him a few weeks. It could take him a week. It could take him, you never know with the back.
Starting point is 01:01:02 And so I think there is hope and optimism that at some point before the regular season though he's going to be back on the floor but in the meantime he's gonna have to rehab that back so yeah from the net standpoint is just getting ben simmons back healthy but but for for the sixers i think what we're seeing right now is the best case scenario right joel and b james harden running this pick and roll they've got to be the most dynamic pick and roll duo in the league right now and and b james harden running this pick and roll they've got to be the most dynamic pick and roll got duo in the league right now and and the way that tyree smacks he's playing and this group is playing with a bunch of energy you know i've heard from people around the sixers that the energy and the way that james harden has handled himself as a teammate is amazing and it's
Starting point is 01:01:39 really put a lot of uh really infused them with a lot of energy for the second half of the season so i'm curious to see how that uh unfolds over the course of the season. Before AJ has his question, a couple follow-ups. I saw Ben Simmons learning how to play basketball with Kyle Korver. Was that how he hurt his back? Was he learning how to shoot for the first time? He's like, oh, you got to lean back a little bit? Was that something that was happening?
Starting point is 01:01:59 And how long do you expect that type of stuff to happen? It seems like he was happy and very welcoming to it as well. Yeah, I mean, from everything I've been told, Ben Simmons is happy he's in Brooklyn, and his spirits have been up about Brooklyn. As far as the situation, it's not like he looked at that as a negative. I think he was happy. He was happy to be in Brooklyn.
Starting point is 01:02:17 But I'm told, no, the back flare-ups happened just when they were trying to ramp him up in more high-intensity increased individual workouts workouts and after a couple of them his back started you know feeling a little off so once that happens you try to you know dial it back down make sure the back gets back in a full swing I think cock-over being there allows to help him hopefully you know work on a shooting and that's what you do with Kyle Koro's one of the best shoes about that so I think I think I think that should be a positive for him down the line.
Starting point is 01:02:47 I don't know how much you know about back issues. Well, I think Simmons was just like, I just normally do this. You guys want me to, oh, my God. I think you guys are going to tell me to shoot. Oh, my God. You got to bend a little bit. I don't do that. I smack the floor and I do fucking layups.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I don't know if this is going to be for me, and my back's already flaring up. Sorry about that. AJ, I hope he figures it out. Shams, what about out west with the Lakers? I know they lost a tight one last night, but what's the rest of their season look like? I don't know. I'll tell you that one.
Starting point is 01:03:13 That definitely was not a tight one. When I look at the Lakers, I look at a team that just – they seem lost. Like their identity is lost. They're not really a defensive-minded team. They're not really an offensive-minded team. They're not really an offensive-minded team. They try to play small sometimes. They don't have really a lineup or an identity that they can stick with.
Starting point is 01:03:31 At the end of the day, as much as people might want to put it on Russell Westbrook or might want to put it on Frank Bogle, this is at the end of the day a personnel issue. From Russell Westbrook, LeBron James, Anthony Davis, you have those three guys, but how are you surrounding them? Are you surrounding them with youthful players, with guys that can fill roles and play make and defend? I saw the Pelicans. Herb Jones was outrunning that team up and down the floor.
Starting point is 01:03:55 And the way he was playing, they need more guys like that. And so when you look at the end of the bench, let's say they had signed an Isaiah Hartenstein or a Gary Payton II. They had an opportunity to sign both of those guys. Gary Payton II playing a critical role in Golden State. Isaiah Hartenstein playing a critical role in Clipper land right now. So they could have had both of those guys. They ended up going with older players, DeAndre Jordan, Kent Bazemore,
Starting point is 01:04:18 guys like that. So it's no knock on them. Those guys all have a role on different teams. But this Lakers team probably need a different type of personnel and we're seeing that play out over the course of the year. So LeBron James is playing like he's 27. They just, right now to me, don't look like they have an identity.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Hey, they're saying that this is another booze year for LeBron. You know, in his first year when he went to LA, he was showing up with wine in his hand and then he was letting inbound passes just roll out of bounds and then he was getting the ball in the middle of the first quarter and just, fuck it, half court, just pulling up, having a fun time. Like, hey, I'm going to have a vacation here in L.A.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I've been to the finals like 100 straight years. I'm a little tired. This team stinks, okay? They got no idea what they're doing. I'm here. I'm going to show up a little white. But he became like a super-duper – Wino, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Connoisseur. Oh, Smaje. Smaje. I mean, even ifisseur. Oh, it's Maia. It's Maia. I mean, even if the team is bad, he's still playing for a record, though. He's in position to pass Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's scoring title. Hey, let's go get it, Bron. Let's go, dude. I'm just saying, LeBron's still looking like he's spry.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I don't think this is a LeBron. We don't think so either. LeBron hasn't played up to par. So what do you do at that point? They're going to have to retool this summer, bring in the right pieces. This team needs a roster turnover if they're going to compete. Vogel's dead too, right? He wants out of there, but he doesn't want to resign because he won't get paid unless they fire him.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I just watched a clip. They were down 30. They showed his face. He didn't look happy, obviously. It's a rough go. It's a rough go. It's a rough go for everyone. Listen, I don't know his status. At this point, you've got to ride this out to me for the rest of the season.
Starting point is 01:05:53 This is clearly the hand that they've been dealt. I don't think that their solution is going to be on the bench. Let's say you do make a coaching change. Is the answer on the bench? I don't know. I don't think so. Well, it's in the card they were dealt right they actually picked these yeah right that's the thing about their style of poker they could have made changes during the during the season obviously they
Starting point is 01:06:14 decided to keep the status quo they other teams were asking for their assets first round pick second round picks they didn't want to give those assets because clearly I don't know this team this season was going to be salvageable so do you give up assets because clearly i don't know if this team this season was going to be salvageable so do you give up assets for the future for a team that might not have it or do you save that for the offseason when you can really turn over the rock i'm excited to watch lebron come back yeah you know next year i'm excited for another run out there in la uh we have sean shirania joining us the insider for your insider in the basketball real good connor yeah sean's over the weekend there is a disgusting float in New Orleans of Zion, I believe,
Starting point is 01:06:49 as someone made it. And, you know, it was very much kind of pertaining to his weight. Have you talked to his camp? And because of this, is there no chance he goes back to New Orleans? Yeah. I honestly didn't even see that. I think I saw a tweet about it. We'll send it to you right now.
Starting point is 01:07:04 It is bad. Despicable. It is bad. Yeah. a tweet about it. We'll send it to you right now. It is bad. Despicable. It is bad. Yeah. Listen, there's a lot of stuff floating around Zion right now. It's a big float. There's, what, 20 games left in the season. I haven't gotten any type of a sense that, yeah, his return is imminent.
Starting point is 01:07:16 So if that's the case with 20 games left, like, I don't know what window there would need to be, you know, obviously a great turnaround in his health. But as far as I'm told, he's still getting his normal day-to-day workouts in. He's supposedly feeling good. And so I don't know if that means he's going to come back, whether he'll need another procedure down the line or what. So he's working out?
Starting point is 01:07:38 His foot's good? He's shooting? He's practicing? Why won't they play him? He doesn't want to play? To my knowledge, he has. I don't know if it's in the last few days, but as of a couple weeks ago, he was doing some stuff on the court.
Starting point is 01:07:49 The question is, is it enough for him to ramp up to actually play? Clearly, it's not to that point because he hasn't even been back in New Orleans. He's still working out in Portland. Oh, he's in Portland. He's in Portland, Oregon. Nobody works out in Portland, Oregon. What does that even mean? Working out, you know, I mean, there's a lot in Portland, Pat.
Starting point is 01:08:06 You know, it's a good day in Portland. And, you know, Nike, Jordan based out in Portland. They sponsor Zion. So, you know, a lot going on in Portland. Fresh fish, exactly. Have some good dinner. There's like an entire – there's like workout campuses in like Arizona, Miami, and Los Angeles.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Florida. New Orleans. Then Portland. Why didn't he go to Saskatchewan? Yeah, there you go. There's some good workout places. I'm going to Saskatchewan, I think. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:08:36 What the hell? See, he doesn't want to play for the Pelicans. Is that what you think? Is that what's going on here? He wants out of there? I haven't gotten that sense, no. I mean, he's – What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:08:44 What's going on? He's a rookie- there? I haven't gotten that sense, no. What the fuck? He's a rookie-scale contract. His body's not right. If his body and his foot aren't right, he can't play. I haven't gotten the sense that Zion's just booking this to sit the season. I think if he could play, he would play. He does love the game. I'm told he does want to play. He physically cannot play.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And so, that is a deterrent. I'll tell you what, do you know the name of the person up in Portland? We should give them love because if somebody's traveling all the way to Portland to train with them wherever they are, we should give them, do you know the name of the training? I do not know the name of the trainer
Starting point is 01:09:18 but he does have a trainer that's working with him. Well, congrats. Hey, turn Zylo around up there in Portland. Maybe you don't have to go to Portland, by the way, to get rid of everything. Hey, let's work out some Timbers games. Get away, congrats. Hey, turn Zion around up there and pour them. Maybe you don't have to pour them, by the way, to get rid of everything. Hey, listen, we're going to have some Timbers games. Yeah. Get away, you know. Yeah. Hunts the soul.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Play with Lillard. I mean, we live in Indianapolis. I guess we can't really bash anybody. But whenever you hear Zion Williamson is not with the team in New Orleans, he's training, you immediately go, oh, he must be in L.A., Phoenix. He must be in Florida or something. Maybe in New Orleans somewhere. Yeah. No, he's in Portland. That's., Phoenix. He must be in Florida or something. Maybe in New Orleans somewhere. No, he's in Portland.
Starting point is 01:09:46 That's jarring. That came out of nowhere for me. I might be out of the loop, but that's all me. Go ahead, Tony. Shams, I was looking at some of the odds for the Western and NBA finals, and I saw something interesting. The Denver Nuggets have some pretty long odds to win these. Are they going to get Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr. back with Jokic?
Starting point is 01:10:05 I mean, that's interesting. Yeah, it's on track to where Michael Porter Jr. should be able to return before even this month is out. And the fascinating part about that is the doctors at the time when he had the back surgery a few months ago felt like he'd miss the season. The NBA doctors ruled that he was probably going to miss the season. They granted an exception, a disabled player exception to the denver nuggets which means that they've deemed that the player in terms of michael borgina would likely be out
Starting point is 01:10:33 through june and so the fact that he's on the cusp of a possible return uh speaks to just the way that he's been able to rehab that back and so from everything i've been told, the ramp up is about to start for Michael Ford Jr. Jamal Murray is a more interesting situation. He had that ACL surgery in April of 2021. So usually those ACLs can be 12 months. So Jamal Murray has been ahead of schedule, but I know he wants to come back at 100% health. So I don't think he just comes back at 90, 95. back at 100 health so i don't think he just comes back at 90 95 and if there's any inkling that he's not going to be himself given the load that he's gonna have to carry behind nicole yokic i think he
Starting point is 01:11:10 does try to come back at 100 so will that happen for the playoffs or out we'll see big load oh yeah i saw joe kits make a pass on some clip here or not we won like this oh yeah the guy had the back in mvp race demarcus cousins balling out too so hey that dude had the back in MVP race. DeMarcus Cousins balling out too. That dude had the nerve to miss that shot. After that pass, can't. Can't do it. Can't. That ball has to go in bucket. That's game winner.
Starting point is 01:11:35 That has no look pass from a giant. Just like this. That ball's got to fall, Shams. I agree. I would have hit it. Hey, I actually saw a picture of you, I think, for something where you were crossing somebody up. Hey, you look super cool, dude.
Starting point is 01:11:53 You look super cool. I appreciate it. I'm trying to get my Pat McAfee on, so I'm trying to do my best here. How's your game? You know, I used to play a lot. My 5-on-5 has decreased over time. I'm just – you know, I'm always on my phone. It's tough to be on your phone and play at the same time.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I wish there was a way to do it. You know, microchips or something in my head. It might be a thing down the line. But, no, I feel like I can play. I feel like, you know, I can shoot. I can handle the ball. I can get a 10-day. So you're saying in an insider's
Starting point is 01:12:26 game, in a media game, Sean's alright. We're okay. We're going to handle ourselves. I think I hold my own a little bit. I think I hold my own. Yeah, it's crazy because in high school, all you cared about was what? Lunch. Yeah. Now look at you. Now you're the insider of the insider's got game, dude. Pretty sweet. Hey, let's go, Sean.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Let's go, Sean. Sean's fucking love lunch this guy. One-on-one versus Woj. Hey, you and Wo, Shams. Let's go, Shami. I love Shams. Fucking love lunch this guy. One-on-one versus Woj. Can't wait for lunch. Hey, you and Woj. One-on-one. One of you. Whoever wins gets to do trade deadline day.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Yeah. The other guy gets their account suspended for 72 hours. I'm just trying to get out of retirement right now. I'm trying to play. I'm trying to play. So if you know a run going on right now, Pat, let me know. Hey, sweet lingo there, dude. Go ahead, Ty. Shams, you mentioned what the lakers are going to do basically just clean house
Starting point is 01:13:08 this offseason we've heard the reports of lebron wanting sam presti in there is he going to basically just do the exact same thing he did this year where like he doesn't like palenka so he gets rid of him brings in some other figurehead and he's still just going to handpick who he wants to play with next year like is anthony davis still going to be there or is lebron going to take a more passive role in the offseason you think i mean let's i i don't know if it's a guarantee that there's just going to be an overhaul with you know with the lakers roplings obviously got more years left on his deal and so um i you know lebron james anthony davis the organization they all wanted russell westbrook so it's not like you can put that all on the organization. I think there's going to be some shared responsibility there,
Starting point is 01:13:48 and I think there has been. So now it's just about how can you retool this team better, and I'm sure they're going to get back in the war room again this summer and try to figure out a way to put the right pieces around those guys. I don't know if there's going to be a full overhaul there. Hey, thank you, Shams. We appreciate the hell out of you, pal. You're the best.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Any news? Who's winning the championship? I have no idea, but I think there's probably like seven, eight teams that have a shot this year, which makes it fun. Damn. Oh, it does make it fun.
Starting point is 01:14:17 A lot of parody, huh? Yeah. Just like college basketball. I mean, Rothstein came on, gave us his three of the top four. They all lost the next day. Yikes. Don't put yourself in a corner like that.
Starting point is 01:14:25 That's smart. Ladies and gentlemen, from the Athletic in the Stadium, Sham Sharani. Thank you, buddy. Hey, basketball's happening. AJ, did you watch? I saw a little bit of Steph Curry last night looking good. They ended up winning the game, didn't they?
Starting point is 01:14:39 No, they lost, yeah. Okay, Steph looked pretty good, the parts I saw. Well, he looked good in the warm-up is what you're talking about. I think he put on one of the greatest shooting performances I've ever seen in warm-ups. Started and ended with ridiculous throws up into the sky that just so happened to go in. Yeah, they ended up losing to Dallas.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Dallas was down, and they came back. Luka got hot late. I mean, they were down like 20, I think. They were up a lot, yeah. When I saw they were rolling, I believe, the beginning of the second half, like Steph was on fire, like assist assist like not as much shooting but just like facilitating everything so then it completely flipped that because when i turned the game on there was a 16-1 run that dallas was on and then i think it went to 19-1 21 ended yeah 21-3 or
Starting point is 01:15:18 something like that yeah i mean they won they completely flipped it lucas yeah it was banana lane and they weren't even making free throws. Golden State Warriors looked like there was an actual plastic thing on their bucket as Dallas was going down the other end. It was wild. The NBA happens. Obviously, we're going to chat about it as we get closer to the playoffs because it's sports. Hey, balls.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Hell yeah. Yeah, ball sports. Can't wait. We're talking Dana White will be here in about 20 minutes. There's a big-time fight going on this weekend. Covington, Masvidal, they don't like each other. It's personal. That't wait. Dana White will be here in about 20 minutes. There's a big time fight going on this weekend. Covington, Masvidal, they don't like each other. It's personal. That's personal. Is Dana in person? No,
Starting point is 01:15:51 no. He's on first. Oh, you made it sound like he was going to be there. No, both in the same week though. Dana and Vince, that's pretty big in the same week, I think. I would say that's gigantic. Yeah, it's awesome. Vince will be here though. That was wild when I heard that, by the way. When was the first time you heard it?
Starting point is 01:16:07 Hey, Vince, you ever think about coming on my show? I'd love it. I'd be very thankful to have the honor of having a conversation because his interviews have not gone well with people outside of the WWE. Right. And I'm like, you know, I don't know if you saw it. Brock came on. It was awesome.
Starting point is 01:16:23 I think people said, hey, if you ever want to come i'll be uh we'd be very we'd be very honored oh yeah so then i get a follow-up from somebody it's like uh vince mentioned something about coming on your show when is it how is like you know this whole thing i'm like i would just need like a facetime or skype or whatever we go live every day 12 3 30 or whatever the case is. And then I get a text back like an hour later. It's like, Vince wants to be in studio. How does that happen?
Starting point is 01:16:49 I'm like, I guess Vince just comes. I guess he just comes in studio. They're like, is that a problem? Is that a problem? They're like, no. I'm like, okay, awesome.
Starting point is 01:16:57 So Vince is flying in for the fucking interview. And I was like, he does not have to. Like Brock was here because Brock had Raw here. So he was in town. Do not feel obligated we do he's
Starting point is 01:17:05 like no vince wants to he's very excited for this or something i get him like all right hell yeah now we can't wait let's start cleaning up the fucking office yes okay vince vickman's coming in here let's go ahead and mop some stuff here if we could uh don't let him use that bathroom it's glorious hopefully he's like the president the president and he brings his own with him. Does that happen? I've heard that. That's rumored. Yeah, Obama, like every president in their motorcade,
Starting point is 01:17:32 there's like a toilet somewhere. That's awesome. Well, in a motorcade makes sense. Yeah. You're trapped in a car. Well, there's one guy, he carries the nuclear football suitcase, and then another guy carries another suitcase, and if you open that up, it is a little squatty potty in there.
Starting point is 01:17:44 That's sweet. Shout out. So two different people yeah yeah smart smart yeah the nuke the nuke one and by the way everyone that got brought up this weekend oh yeah still is really yeah this morning there was another one oh no all right let's just keep talking sports let's keep talking sports yeah ghost is up to 10 the way. I just want to put that out there before we get off the... Atta baby. Looking for the first ever undefeated war. Officially an ace. Guy's got a double.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Guy's got a double-double. Dude, he's unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. His eye, he sees things in slow motion when he's up there. You know how in the world where it's getting faster, he's flying 500, 600 miles an hour, they say the ghost, everything slows down. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:23 He's shaping shots, too. Yeah. He's shaping shots too. Yeah. He's throwing shots like Angelina Jolie. Curving the bullet. In the movie. Fucking ghost. Go on.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Go ghost. Klitschko brothers I seen them in fatigues with some guns. Lomachenko I saw him in a fatigue with some guns and a good beard.
Starting point is 01:18:38 All right. A lot of Molotov cocktails being made over there. So many. Weapons getting sent in. This is the world we're living in right now. This is wild. This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Something to think about whenever everything else in your life is maybe going on. It's quite a quick perspective putter. Like, hey, this is actually happening in the world that we live. One plane away, if we wanted to. Just go ahead and, you know, just be a long flight. Probably would have to take some sort of sleeping device, but then you would wake up. Boom.
Starting point is 01:19:06 You're right in the middle of it. That's happening on the word. We're in hope. Everybody's okay. Tease and peace for everybody. And a fucking ghost. Let's go. There you go.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Ghost. You need you. Before we get to a break, AJ, we have to talk about the American dream, the true underdog story of Kurt Warner. Your thoughts. You watch it this weekend. You said, is that accurate? I did. I started watching it your thoughts you watch it this weekend you said is that accurate
Starting point is 01:19:25 i did i started watching it last night finished it this morning and i have to say i feel like those screen grabs that you guys showed me do not do the movie justice the screen grabs make it look like a cheesy corny movie that doesn't look good in reality i'm with ty and nick on this one that thing is almost a masterpiece zach levi and Anna Paquin, both great actors, too. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Is that what you thought? I had a little different thoughts. What did you think about it?
Starting point is 01:19:54 I've never watched a movie come from that category of movie before. What's the category? Is it Hallmark? Yeah. It's like a Hallmark movie? Corny might be the word you're looking for. Shut up, Gump. Corny? No, Gump're looking for. Corny?
Starting point is 01:20:07 Come on, you won't watch it. Gump, you've been doing real positive. 38-12-2 this guy. Pick me up, Brock. Appreciate you, dude. March Madness, footy. There's no need for that burial of a very good human Kurt Warner, okay? But I'm an hour and 12 minutes into that thing and I haven't seen a
Starting point is 01:20:23 fucking football thrown yet, okay? And it's a two-hour movie. Let thing, and I haven't seen a fucking football thrown yet, okay? And it's a two-hour movie. Let's figure. I don't know why it was being marketed on NFL Network. Now, granted, he is on NFL Network, but it should have came with a clause. Everybody should have said, hey, this movie is incredible.
Starting point is 01:20:36 It will touch you right in your feels. Oh, yes. There is a lot of that. But also, this is not a football movie. No. You need to know this is not a football movie. I thought I was signing up for, like, Remember the Titans, you know? I thought I was signing up for, you know, maybe Varsity Blues.
Starting point is 01:20:52 I didn't know that I was signing up. Maybe the program. I was signing up for a movie I'd never seen before. I've never. There was numerous times where I took screenshots. We're 35 minutes into this thing. We're 40-some minutes into this thing. We're an hour're 35 minutes into this thing we're 40 some minutes into this thing we're an hour and 12 minutes into this thing and i don't want to give anything away but
Starting point is 01:21:09 i mean there was a lot of like oh this is not what i thought it was going to be at all yeah great story though great story that's why i need the kurt warner documentary because i was too young for all this i didn't know he was such a great guy and incredible story so i want the doc shut up fox you bashed the movie. You said it was the worst thing you've ever seen. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, you did. I was like, Pat, I just never seen a Hallmark movie.
Starting point is 01:21:31 I need the documentary side. No, you're a scumbag. And I was set up by some people. I was kind of warned by you guys, like, hey, this is not a great film, per se. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who said that? Who said that? Gumpy.
Starting point is 01:21:43 But I actually did enjoy it. Like, the last half hour saved the movie. That's what I'm saying. 47 minutes. Yeah. It was all good. I thought it was all good. The story's crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:52 Packers for life! I mean, there's a few lines. Stay in the pocket cart! Yeah, that really just had no business. He got sacked 39 times in one practice. Yeah, and who else? One of his friends were signed up for him. I'm like, all right, this is telling me a lot, I actually you know but also i mean it's the movie yeah he's a
Starting point is 01:22:09 great dancer i didn't know he is kurt as good a dancer as zach levi oh hell yeah i don't know all right let's get to a break he was a bad dancer he had to learn how to do all you need to know is it's not a football movie no and if you're a sports doofus who never saw a disney movie growing up it probably doesn't sign up for many other movies outside of your comedy sports world, it will take you by surprise. I'm like, what is this? How about him torching Ray Lewis, though? Oh, I love that guy.
Starting point is 01:22:35 He's a great guy, too. Can't be lost in this. Great. Unbelievable. I thought it was good casting, too, though. Honestly, I feel like that guy kind of looks like him. I feel like his on-field play. They had some big hits. Did those guys really take those collisions they're really getting hit that
Starting point is 01:22:47 hard i mean he wasn't four minutes dude all right listen enough with your oh how about that lakers game last night it was a tight one well that was different i'm talking about hey real quick how about that grab how about that grab an arena league i think it was an arena league the guy caught it was like a fingertip grab front flip. I was like, this is what I signed up for. Now, this is what I'm here for. You're right. You're 100% right.
Starting point is 01:23:12 There was some great actual action. But, man, him and his wife have a special type of love that I'm happy. I got to learn all about. Some of the lines. Feel good. Feel good story. It's a Hallmark story. Talk about the heartstrings.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Maybe country music isn't that bad. There are a few lines that just make it. Feel good story. It's a Hallmark story. Talk to the heartstrings. Maybe country music isn't that bad. Like there are a few lines that just. That was hilarious. What the fuck are you talking about? No, it was supposed to be like a very meaningful line. It wasn't supposed to be a funny line. Why don't you be an adult? I'm trying to be an adult. I'm trying to fairly grade this film.
Starting point is 01:23:38 But it was a good film. Just probably take out half of the dialogue in it. No, come on. She just spit in Kurt's face. No, no. Not at all. And his wife. Yeah, and Z-Man.
Starting point is 01:23:50 And Z-Man. Brenda is a fantastic lady. Z-Man. Absolutely love Z-Man. Yeah, legend. All right, we're back in four minutes. Are you telling others to watch it? Yeah, anyone that asks, of course.
Starting point is 01:24:07 I'm like people now. His story truly is a true underdog story. The way that he came into the league and the fact that he went in there as a Hall of Famer and won a Super Bowl. Like, are you kidding me? Amazing story. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:20 That being said, this is not a football movie. No. This is a Hallmark love program. Yes, and the documentary, to Foxy's point, is going to be unbelievable someday. I agree. Love, Kurt. Thank you, Kurt. Isaac Bruce also.
Starting point is 01:24:34 What a guy. What a guy. Great guy. You're good. AJ, I don't know if you know. You look great. Thank you. I think they're a little...
Starting point is 01:24:46 Keep them on. Huh? You're going to keep them on, right, for Dana? Well, this is actually how I look. What do you mean, keep them on? Yeah, that's what I wear every day. Just take them off. You didn't notice?
Starting point is 01:24:54 That's what I wear every day, man. I would love to drive by you in your new car and see you at a stoplight with those on. Well, this is like the cauliflower here. You know? You see somebody with these on, you don't fuck with them. You see somebody with these on, you don't fuck with them. You see somebody with cauliflower here, you don't fuck with them. It's pretty easy. I'm just trying to give warning signs out.
Starting point is 01:25:11 These two right here are certified fucking weapons. I'll smack you in the mouth if I got to. Come on the inside. But if you eat one of those, pow, it's over for you. I think that is something that it says when I'm on the wheel, you know, driving. Oh, yeah. I think it might say the opposite. What? What does that mean? If I put on the wheel, you know, driving. Oh, yeah. I think it might say the opposite. What?
Starting point is 01:25:25 What does that mean? If I put my affliction pants on, you hear me? If I put my affliction pants on, I got my belt buckle on, maybe same shirts I wear all the time, and then these two fucking things right here, you don't think that says, pow! That's not a guy to mess. Even though I ain't got the cauliflower here, bang! That's not a dude I want to fuck with. You don't think people are saying that?
Starting point is 01:25:43 I think so, dude. They know these things are flowing around. If I see you shadow boxing at stoplights, yeah, you're right. I probably wouldn't say anything to you. Imagine me getting out of my car. At every red light, getting out of my car. Keep the heart rate up,
Starting point is 01:26:00 guys. Get some reps in. Awesome. That would be fucking sweet. Shooting for fake takedowns. Fucking good. I got you. Single leg. Got him. There's a former UFC champion that may or may not have been on this show before.
Starting point is 01:26:14 That this past Friday we were walking by each other. And I fucking single leg. You're down. Already won. And then I just walked away. Won nothing, dude. Just see you later. That's going to come back around on me.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Did that champion accept his fate? No, he just looked at me, and I was like, one nothing, dude. And I just kept walking. He just had to go about his business. That's going to come back, though. He remembered that because I do think I got in there. Oh, yeah. Hey, listen.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Don't get it twisted. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? That's not going to end well, man. All he's got to do is Oh, yeah. Hey, listen. Don't get it twisted. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? That's not going to end well, man. All he's got to do is he's going to see you come and he's going to throw a knee right to your face. Well, Ben Askren, you're talking about Mass of a Doll. All right, that's what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:26:55 He could also do the double arm pow right to my back like he did to this table and broke. Oh, yeah. As soon as I get the fuck off of me. You know what I mean? Break some ribs. But I will say I was part of the linebackers position drills. Run group?
Starting point is 01:27:10 Position drills, yeah. Whenever I was young, the first regime. They let me do, like, practice, you know? I'd play quarterback in the seven-on-seven. I'd play running back in the linebacker drills. I'd be a part of the, you know, the sprawl. Like, hey, the block sprawl thing. Oh, yeah. I feel like I got that. Playing off the cut blocks? Yeah. linebacker drills i'd be a part of the you know the sprawl okay the block sprawl thing yeah i feel
Starting point is 01:27:26 like i got that point off the cut blocks yeah hey that was your entire life huh you did that every single day just went nope that whole thing gotta get your feet out don't let them get to your feet well i'll move my feet there so quick you can't fucking see it underneath this thing don't you know i know i'm i'm co-signing for that hey do you ever think about just bringing a knee right to that person trying to cut you like uh like yeah that'd be a great i mean i would love to do that actually yeah what you gotta do is you know shoot those feet back you see that let me see shoot this you gotta do it while you keep moving though you gotta keep going down the line shit i might have got you there here's my nija uh houston houston's dude don't want to tell you. This is my Nyjah.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Houston. Houston's, dude. I'm about to go. Skater boys. See you later, boy. Hell yeah. Thank you, man. But there's no one I got these on at any time.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Fuck around. Their autograph was by me. This was my first fight. Damn. Is it really? Oh, yeah. Knockout. Yeah, you should have seen me. It was at a Lazy Lizard in Morgantown, West Virginia.
Starting point is 01:28:24 It was about 2.30 a.m. You know, there's a little bit of something popping off on one of the back bars i think it was down the basement i pulled these right out of my back pocket right on top of the bar jumped ah bang it was over and then i was like all right the security guard says it's over sign the gloves wear them every day there you you go. No big deal. Why wouldn't you? 1-0. Joining us now. 2-0 now. Well, I mean, with these on. You know what I mean? That's quick, dude.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Thank you. Oh, shit. I only saw like one. Keep going. Keep going. Let me see. Think about what this son of a bitch did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:02 I'm dying! You know what I mean? Knockout. Yeah. A lot of those are sprawl technique. I already got a pain in the teeth dying You know what I mean I mean Knockout Yeah A lot of those Sprawl technique I already got You know what I mean McGregor
Starting point is 01:29:10 You know what I mean Join us now I like to fight in virtual reality Okay In the Oculus Yeah Thrill of the fight Mostly because you can't get punched
Starting point is 01:29:18 In the actual face Right You don't want to hurt anyone either Well also yeah Who knows what these two things Are going to do You know what I mean Join us now Another Oculus fighter A man who was a boxing trainer turned business
Starting point is 01:29:29 mogul president of the ufc massive fight happening this saturday as masvidal and colby covington finally get a chance to settle some beefs that seem to be very personal. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana White. Yeah, Dana! What's up, dude? What's up, guys? How are you? Hey, you see the lightning in these goddamn gloves, Dana? I do, I do. You know what I mean? I mean, this is actually a gift from you.
Starting point is 01:29:55 I don't know if you know that. You sent me these right before you came on. You know, we're talking to a basketball guy who got the basketball out, you know, super sportsy. Then we're talking football, he got the football out. I figured if I put these gloves on, I'm tougher you take me more serious is that accurate or the opposite absolutely absolutely hey massive fight this weekend obviously you guys just came out of a great weekend as well we're listening to masvidal and covington talk to each other on steven a's
Starting point is 01:30:20 world this is really personal like is this what you like as a promoter when people get a chance to experience why two dudes hate each other going in there or does that not matter to you you think yeah no it doesn't matter as much it's fun when it does happen you know it's fun when you get these kind of storylines narratives uh bad blood hatred whatever you want to call it and uh you know it just makes the fight a little bit more exciting but at the end of the day the problem with some of the with some of the shit talk in fights is sometimes those type of fights don't, you know, the shit talk was better than the actual fight. So hopefully that's not the case in this one. Dana, where does this one rank between Colby and Masvidal when it comes to, like, the animosity between the two?
Starting point is 01:31:00 Where does it rank compared to a lot of other fights that you've been a part of? No, it's up there, you know. up there with with jones and cormier the difference is that these guys actually live together trained together trained out of the same camp and you get a few of these every once in a while that this happens uh but yeah the and the bottom line is the thing is too you can have all the all the shit talk you want but you got the number one guy in the world versus the number six guy in the world. So these are real dudes. These are real tough guys, so it should be a good fight.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Number one dude in the world is Covington. He's hated by, I think, he's turned full heel at this point, right? Like he has completely embraced the heel role. And Masvidal is a guy that kind of took over the world. Now, obviously, he was in street fighting way back in the day with Kimbo when we all used to log on to the Internet and watch kimbo just fucking kill people in backyards what a great time that was you remember those internet we don't have to call dana to get on the internet to watch kimbo beat the fuck out of somebody jorge was doing that now he's in the ufc uh when you're
Starting point is 01:32:00 putting this fight together with covington and you just heard about it, you know, some have more animosity than others. Is that something you create as a bookmaker, like, or as a, as a booker, like, Hey, we, we should have this at this particular time. Cause the NFL is done. There ain't shit to do on a fucking Saturday anymore. Like, do you think about all that or is just so happened to line up perfectly for you? No, it just lined up timing wise after the Superbowl. And yeah, I mean, Colby Covington's been the number one ranked guy in the world for a while, so he took his shots at Usman. You know, the reality is if Kamaru Usman doesn't exist, Colby Covington is the world champion at 170 pounds. So Masvidal is a bad dude. These guys hate each other. They've been
Starting point is 01:32:44 talking for a long time, and now was the time that the fight came together. Masvidal is a bad dude. These guys hate each other. They've been talking for a long time. And now was the time that the fight came together. Masvidal obviously need Ben Askren's head off. Five seconds. I think it was like this, you know, and that you capitalize on that moment. I think we then went to the baddest motherfucker championship when the rock came out in Madison Square Garden, I think, and cut the entire promo. When you think about grander marketing, things like that, like the BMF title, should that not be on the line?
Starting point is 01:33:09 Do you not think things like that should be on the line more? Or do you have other titles or ideas for these guys that are incredible, but they happen to live in an Usman world? Or is that not something you think about going forward? Yeah, no, I do. You know, we did the BMF title. It was a one-time thing um you know it was fun when we did it but yeah you're probably right I probably should make that belt on the line when
Starting point is 01:33:32 there isn't a world title fight on the line because Masvidal has it Masvidal has the belt so we doing that this weekend or what is that on Saturday where's my crew I don't know maybe I don't know maybe maybe how's life Dana how's life for you incredibly busy you guys had a fight this past weekend you got a fight coming up are you just working 24 70 you just love this shit huh yeah we we've been busy but it's good man yeah it's all good i do love this and uh yeah i i i'm still having as much fun as i did i might even be having more fun now than i did back in the day yeah because you're made yeah it's just not as it's not as stressful as it was back then I'm still having as much fun as I did. I might even be having more fun now than I did back in the day. Because you're made?
Starting point is 01:34:09 Yeah, it's just not as stressful as it was back then. You know, we didn't know if we were going to make it or we weren't going to make it. I'm pretty sure we're going to make it now. I was about to say, at what point? When you guys sold for like $6 billion? Is that when you knew it? Or is there a... No, to be honest with you, when we sold, that was another hard time that we had to battle through. We sold.
Starting point is 01:34:29 We didn't. They got me to stay. We didn't have a TV deal. Fox was done. And we were out there looking for a new TV deal. So that was another hard thing that we had to battle through. Then here comes COVID. We battled through that.
Starting point is 01:34:45 And I don't know what else is left. I think we have our own arena next door now. So I don't give a shit what's next. We're good. And we got our place set up in Abu Dhabi. We can go there whenever we want to. So there isn't too much to stress about anymore. Hey, the hustlers survive when the rest of the world crumbles, you know, know and they say it only the work only begins once you get to the top of the
Starting point is 01:35:09 mountain i feel like you took that as a challenge once it sold for six billion to let everybody know no we fucking are worth more actually and then when everybody else was doing their entire thing i feel like that's what we watched from you am i accurate in thinking that 100 yeah and you know ari emmanuel you know who put up the 4.025 billion geez um you know what was counting on on me and the team to pull this thing off so you know i i i was very loyal to the fortita brothers and uh very loyal to ari when when he made that purchase so let's talk about when you get to the fortita brothers obviously the story is that you were like sleeping in their basement now it must have been a massive fucking basement. They are the Fertittas, but allegedly you go from Boston to Vegas.
Starting point is 01:35:52 You're training people. You meet up with Fertittas. You see what the UFC could potentially be, your vision of it. They end up buying it for like a million bucks or something. You guys go all in and invest this thing. You have to trailblaze. You have to get states to okay this. You got to make some rules that maybe the old school UFC folks don't like, but this will be better for an international appeal. Now we're in a world where it feels like the old school shit is still a problem in the modern world. This judging situation, how do we fix it?
Starting point is 01:36:19 You're the only person that can fix the judging situation in all of combat sports. This past weekend obviously you guys had your thing going there was a boxing match where a dude had a higher percentage landed higher amount of punches connected higher amount of punches thrown he loses i've heard you bitch about the judges before after fights how do we fix that and what is that entire process you think yeah it's one of the hardest things to fix, actually. You know, you have the states. We're regulated by the state. The state oversees us, makes sure that everything is a fair playing field.
Starting point is 01:36:51 And, you know, I can't overrule them. Believe me, I think you remember back in the day when I used to go crazy over Mazagati because he was such a bad ref. At that point in time, the Nevada nevada state athletic commission is the strongest commission in in the world and at that point in time they were the weakest and um it was very frustrating for us but you know all you can do is offer assistance in training these guys better and you know but they're always listen the nfl don't always make the greatest calls. The NBA doesn't make the greatest calls.
Starting point is 01:37:28 You're always going to have bad officiating. It's always going to happen. It's such a fascinating world, too, because, I mean, I think you were the first promoter that publicly, and you said you used to lose your mind. I think you are the first guy, and I think it's because you're self-made and work in your own world, so you can do whatever you want. You're kind of setting the example of what you get to act like,
Starting point is 01:37:50 which is awesome, first of all. That's not true that's not true really back then when i was going crazy on the athletic commission i was home on a sunday morning after a fight and my phone rang and it was the governor of nevada and he basically me and him had like one of those he's like you ever fucking talk shit about the state of Nevada like that again, I'll pull your license. And did you put these on? You'll never promote another fight again in this. No, I said, thank you, sir. May I have another?
Starting point is 01:38:16 No, I did not. Good business. Go ahead, Ty. Dana, you've kind of told us about the matchmaking process in the past, but when you have these events damn near every weekend and you have to fill up these cards and make sure that, do you ever get anxiety or feel like an extra amount of pressure where it's like, shit, I've got to deliver an unbelievable show
Starting point is 01:38:35 week in, week out for everybody? No, I mean, yes, the night of the fight, you get some of that, but we're at a point now where I always say we're the bells and whistles guys. We go in. We sell the fight. We tell you why you need to watch the fight. We sell tickets. We sell pay-per-views.
Starting point is 01:38:54 And then once that gate door closes on Saturday night, it's out of our hands and it's up to the fighters. And the beautiful thing about this sport is over the last 20 years, these kids have delivered every – I mean, tell me the last shitty UFC event you saw. I mean, it's just – we're on a run right now that's unbelievable. Could you imagine if I would have just said, well, Dana, like right there. Dana, two weeks ago. It has been an incredible run, though, because I think guys understand it more now, and ladies, obviously. They understand from the content game. game it feels like and this is going to get a little inside baseball but back in the day the wrestlers all the wrestlers were natural hustlers okay so
Starting point is 01:39:34 they were selling their own shit they were creating their own stories they were doing their own thing they were driving town to town it feels like the ufc guys and the mixed martial arts guys they understand like sugar Sugar Sean says, like I'm putting on a performance in there. Like you hear these guys, it feels like they know what would make it best for UFC. And at this point, you have to feel great about that, that that is kind of the stable of fighters you have
Starting point is 01:39:56 that know you've got to go out there and almost put on a show and want to put on a show, right? Yeah, I think it's gotten to the point now where they know, you know, to stay here and have any type of career here, you got to deliver. Those match bonuses and knockout bonuses and all those things. Who makes those decisions? Strictly you or you guys have a board, a council? Yeah, there's three of us, four of us after the fight that we get together and argue over it sometimes. And sometimes we all agree and
Starting point is 01:40:25 and uh we determine who got some i mean masvidal and covington have a chance to set up for a lot here go ahead aj dan you mentioned something about like the judges and obviously you can't really do a whole lot you say we'll try to train them or help out how we can how can you help like and who is training these judges so what you do is so what we would do is we've done this many times we'll put up the money to uh you know to host the judges and they'll they'll watch films you know and but it's the head of the athletic commission that oversees the whole thing and they'll watch films we'll set it up so that uh you know all the fights are are available and and we'll bring in the projector whatever you need to do to make it happen and
Starting point is 01:41:05 feed them and and and and make a whole day out of it are there fighters in there like watching it with them to try to explain what they're seeing like how does that work no no it's it's it's the head of the athletic commission the guy who runs the athletic commission knows what the rules are knows what you know it's like and and here's here's part of the problem. I had, uh, one of the trainers come over to me the other day during the ultimate, the ultimate fighter is filming right now. And one of the fights happened and he thought that the fight that, that one of the rounds was a 10, eight round. I'm like, are you out of your fucking mind? A 10, eight round is when somebody just gets their ass whooped for five minutes and and there's times where you think god
Starting point is 01:41:46 they should stop this fight that's a 10-8 round to me so lots of different people have different ideas of what you know what they're looking at and what they think a 10-8 or a 10-7 round should be all right so you have ultimate fighters still happening you had fight night happening over the weekend now you have a big fight. Are you at every event? Are you still doing everything? And are you still plugged in to basically all that's going on in UFC? Yeah, absolutely. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:42:12 At the Ultimate Fighter, you're pissed at a judge. That's awesome. You got Covington and Masvidal coming up in a sold-out T-Mobile in Las Vegas. You had a Fight Night on ESPN+. There's always potential streaming shit. There's always platform stuff. There's always deals you have to be a part of. And you're in there at the ultimate fighter for a round telling a judge,
Starting point is 01:42:32 can't have it. I love it, man. Have you always been this way? Or are you thinking... Yeah, I guess so. Listen, I've been working since I was 19. I've been in this business and I love it. I couldn't listen, I've been working since I was 19. I've been in this business, and I love it. I couldn't imagine doing anything else.
Starting point is 01:42:48 Imagine if you just fucking, you know what I mean, put these bad boys on one time. You still doing the Oculus? You still fighting and working out? You got fucking fighting. I love it. So I've been working out, but I've been lifting weights. I need to get back into the Oculus.
Starting point is 01:43:02 I love the Oculus. Did you try it? Yes, I tried it before you, Dana. I don't want to say I was honest before you. But I was in the thrill of the fight. It's the best, isn't it? I'm knocking these dudes out. And then you're drenched in sweat afterwards.
Starting point is 01:43:16 It's so true, man. I literally set ours up in the gym so you can make that part of your cardio workout. It's incredible. Yeah, it's a smart move. I've seen your office, too. You can set up. Hey your cardio workout. It's incredible. Yeah, it's a smart move. I've seen your office too. You can set up. Hey, you've done good, Dana. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Good. Go ahead, Tony. Dana, I've got to ask you something because it's been bothering me for a while. One of your fucking Fridays, you made a pickle pizza, and you said, I hate fucking lemon, and then you put lemon on your pizza. Why did you do that? No, no, no. I don't hate lemon.
Starting point is 01:43:42 I didn't like the lemon. They had too much lemon on the pizza. With the pickles,'t like the lemon. They had too much lemon on the pizza. With the pickles, it was good, but they put too much lemon on the pizza. The lemon was too strong for the pizza. Hey, fuck it, Friday. You say 10,000 calories or more? Oh, man. We just did a fucking In-N-Out burger fried.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Fried In-N-Out burger. Wow. Come on. Yeah, it's good, but it's bad. In-N-Out burger fried. Fried In-N-Out burger. Come on. Yeah, it's good, but it's bad. Watching you take a big-ass bite into this random. Pretty good. I almost choked on that donut. The donut almost killed you.
Starting point is 01:44:17 I thought we lost to Dana. You know what I mean? I thought we lost to Dana. Well, the problem with that one was it had a shitload of peanut butter in it, which immediately dries your mouth up. And it had gummy worms. You know, gummy anything, you've got to chew for 10 minutes before you swallow it. It feels like a fucking Friday went wrong there.
Starting point is 01:44:33 It feels like that recipe was made for disaster. What's next for you, Dana? Do you ever get to think about the future? I know you're so dialed into right now, but what about the UFC? Is there anything else other than just killing it every single week and putting together great cards? Well, you know, once the world starts, every time I say the world get back to normal, the world
Starting point is 01:44:49 gets crazy. Whoa, did we beat COVID? You think we beat COVID? I think we did. Nobody's talking about COVID anymore. It'll pop up again. It'll pop up again. I want to go to Africa. I want to do a fight in Africa. That's my big,
Starting point is 01:45:06 you know, I got to do a fight in Africa. That's my big, you know, I got to do it before the end of my career. Would that be like outside, inside? Like what are you thinking whenever you think about the arena or the setup? I don't like outside at all unless you're in a place like Abu Dhabi where it's absolutely positively not going to rain. But, you know, the rain scares me and the wind scares me. Any type of elements outside that could affect the outcome of the fight, I don't like. Well, we appreciate you stopping by and chatting with us.
Starting point is 01:45:34 I assume we're a part of, you know, being a distraction for your business having success. So we appreciate you stopping by. Thanks for having me, boys. Hey, hold on, hold on. You're wearing a Tom Brady shirt. He's allegedly potentially getting into investing, like maybe being a minority owner of the Dolphins.
Starting point is 01:45:49 It's all being floated out. Do you talk business with anybody like him, or do you guys did all just like mentorship or anything like that? I talked to him yesterday, but we didn't talk about that. We didn't talk about any of that kind of stuff. And we only text. So I've sort of left him alone since his retirement, let him spend some time with his family,
Starting point is 01:46:07 and I'm sure everybody and their mother is blowing him up. So we talked yesterday, but not about stuff like that. How about like whenever you talk about the Full Send podcast, and those guys, how many did they sell? They sell like 25 million in about 10 minutes or something. With the metaverse and Ethereum. And I think you were on the Full Send podcast. A little bit.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Yeah, absolutely. And they're talking about maybe you having a fight in the metaverse or anything like that. That's something you have to think about now at this day, though, right? Like you have to figure out how you're going to go about doing it all. We're working on it right now. We're actually working on that. Yep. Are you getting in there in the metaverse?
Starting point is 01:46:38 You strapping a fucking Oculus on and going in a war? Sounds like it's going to happen. All right. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana White. Thank you. How's Bitcoin doing? I think it's still down compared to what it was. Well, that's the
Starting point is 01:46:56 interesting thing, but it's up compared to what it was like a year ago. 41,000. So is that like 20 something, right? Whenever the whole world kind of heard about it and then it went all the way up to like 50, 60 And then it came down to 30 Everybody's like it's dead, it's dead, it's dead Now it's back up to 40, who knows what's going on out there
Starting point is 01:47:12 What is going on with that thing What is going on with that thing What's going on with that thing AJ I don't know, I mean from what people say It has to go up right Well now it doesn't because it did come down Could it get taken over by like You know another crypto ethereum or one of those well ethereum ethereum tried its best i don't have doge ever that dog is cute and it is going to the moon but i think
Starting point is 01:47:34 that might be uh that might be done the thought of ethereum though getting in with the metaverse which is through the uh knock boys with full send that seems like that's gonna be a move but everybody just assumes zack is going to create his own. Yeah. Zaka coin. That guy scares me, so let's not buy that one. He does seem to have the most, like, what's up with that guy about a lot of people, you know?
Starting point is 01:47:56 Wow. He drinks water out of a glass, very, you know, normal. I can relate. He just has barbecue sauce sitting on his mantle. Yeah. AJ. What? I love that you just go with such a direct,
Starting point is 01:48:11 and I knew exactly what you were speaking of as soon as you were saying it, but that was what you saw. You judged, and you said, oh, that guy's not a human. Is that what happened? I mean, yeah, seeing that clip, you would think that, but I actually just listened to Zuck. He did a podcast with Lex Freeman I listened to some of because I was surprised I hadn't seen Zuck out there really talking. It was a couple hours long.
Starting point is 01:48:30 I haven't listened to all of it, but he tries to be a human in it, I think. Well, that's awesome. I can't wait to hear how human he is. Which he is. He sounds more human than he looks drinking water. He was also being questioned, obviously. Interrogated about his entire you know world he is smarter than everybody in the room about what he's talking about and he's also trying to stay
Starting point is 01:48:49 out of jail probably i mean there's a lot maybe that's why he drank his water awkwardly but i mean as the world continues to go zuck is going to be a part of a lot of conversations yeah this metaverse thing hey pretty pretty big huh could be huge i guess those milk boys made like 20 somesome million. Were they selling NFTs? What were they doing? They're selling passes into their area in the metaverse. Okay.
Starting point is 01:49:13 That's pretty cool. That's awesome. Like VIP pass? Yeah. I think so, yeah. Fast pass? That's like you and Fogel. Fogel tried to get you into the VIP section of that bar.
Starting point is 01:49:23 All right. Right? You're always wrong with that let's go to the phones okay my bad guy fieri i tried to get you in and focal said no don't let him still wrong it's interesting i mean two very similar situations where we were in vip areas of clubs and said dudes were in different areas of the vip area center you know what i mean i had i had my own area they have their normally bigger both of them bigger area than my area then i get invited into their areas one says i'll make you famous
Starting point is 01:49:50 the other says i'm subway guy hey bro you're pretty gangster i'll make you famous he did just put a camera on me immediately flashlight on dance dance this is a good song you know i gave it to him you know how's your family guy how about a pow and a bang song, you know. I gave it to him. How's your family, guy? How about a pow and a bang? That's you, right? Boom. Gangster. You see the pow?
Starting point is 01:50:11 I thought that was animal. I don't think that's him. Yeah, yeah. It was probably pretty disrespectful what he did. Probably why the video never made a lot. It never got famous. Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Hell of a party, though.
Starting point is 01:50:22 Hell of a party. He was very nice to us the rest of the way, wasn't he, Nick? I mean, Nick, he was very nice to all of us. Was he? Yeah. You got a very different definition of nice, I think. Oh, Nick doesn't like Guy Fieri, and I don't know why. I like Guy.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Do you know him personally? Yeah, I've been around him a few times, different things. Like him? Super nice guy, always. Always wants to cook and have you try the food that he's been making and different things, yeah. Sounds like a good guy. This is my type of guy.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Just trying to feed people and make people happy, Nick. He wasn't doing it that night. He was feeding us a bunch of bullshit. Well, now granted, I mean, it did seem like Triple D was giving us a little bit of bullshit, but he was at a party having his own good time. What? Handing out donkey sauce. I think he is doing a restaurant, two floor.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Like half of it's a sports book. So guy is... Here in Indy? I think it is in Nevada or Arizona. I forget which one. Let's go to the phones. That's gangster, dude. That is gangster.
Starting point is 01:51:17 You actually know him? Yeah. It's been years ago. But yeah, a couple of different events where I've been at. He's been there and got to interact with him. I will say his guy's garage around here where he sells just all of the fried food he found from Triple D in one app on DoorDash. Oh, really? Delicious.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Yeah, it's very, very good. I'm sure he's a nice guy if you're already famous, like winning a Super Bowl, A.J. Hawk. He doesn't have to make you famous. No, but he was having a night. It's the Kentucky Derby. Tell him a night. It's the Kentucky Derby. Tell him, please. Come on. Lay off him, Nick. Thank you, AJ. That sounded very stern
Starting point is 01:51:51 right there. Wow. You sounded like you genuinely meant that. Guy Fieri doesn't deserve this. Let's get some sports stuff. Giants are not expected to pick up Dan Jones' fifth year option. Oh! Fourth year, fourth different head coach in offensive system and everything like that.
Starting point is 01:52:07 Is Dan Jones the guy for the future for the New York football giants? He said, well, let's find out. Let's see if Dayball likes the guy. I mean, all accounts seem like he'll be able to make the same type of offense happen that he had with Josh Allen, although Josh Allen is now the gold standard, I think, of what people are going to look for. Six-foot-six, very athletic, very smart, gets along with everybody on his team and works his ass off every single offseason to get better.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Okay, let's get Josh Allen if we can. Maybe Debo sees a lot of similarities in Daniel Dimes, but he said we're going to find out after at least one year here. We're going to take the tractor another round here before we decide to take it another round. You know what I mean, AJ? It has to be kind of awkward, though. If you're the starting quarterback and they drafted you, I know
Starting point is 01:52:50 this coach didn't draft him, but the front office did, and they don't pick up your option. They're trying to say, hey, prove it to me. Prove that you can do this? What is it? This front office, I don't think drafted him. Joe Shane. New GM. Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah. New regime. Either way. All right. Then that makes it a little easier for Daniel Jones to be like, okay,
Starting point is 01:53:05 these guys have not seen me up close and personal. I need to prove it to them. Maybe it adds a little chip to his shoulder as well. And also, Danny Dimes needs to know he's potentially fucked. It's like naturally because a different regime and a different coach drafted you. Like, that's business, you know? Because he has to light it up.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Yeah, he does. And this is such a different situation because I'm not the quarterback. But when the Colts' new regime came in, it was on my contract year. Great. By the way, that's very, he does. And this is such a different situation because I'm not the quarterback. But when the Colts' new regime came in, it was on my contract year. Great. By the way, that's very, very good. They did not necessarily love what I was about. I don't think my Twitter account, anything about me, basically. And I was told, like, hey, you're going to learn how to directional punt
Starting point is 01:53:37 because we already have five other guys that are going to learn how to do that. And we're okay moving on. We did not draft you or whatever. It's like, all right. That was my first day meeting, like, you know teams coordinator was like this is great i'm happy to be here man fucking pumped and then i had to learn how directional pun is ultimately good for my career but those are the types of things like hey they want to see if you can adjust to their system why would they invest long term i understand you know business it makes sense in business it makes
Starting point is 01:53:59 sense ain't you yeah they want to have obviously they want success but it gives it makes them look even better if they have success with but it makes them look even better if they have success with people they brought in that weren't already there when they got there. Much better. Oh my God, these are my guys. They remember what they were and then we brought this entire thing. If you're looking strictly just to build your own ego and not a good team, go ahead. Well, and this will be his third head coach in four years. Not picking up the option, does that help him as a trade value? just because they have like the two top 10 picks in this year's draft still a few quarterbacks who might be on the move like if it was him
Starting point is 01:54:30 saquon to first and for like russell wilson maybe next year's first two is that appealing at all with dan jones or no met saquon right at super bowl right sounds like he's all the way back right he's ready to be all the way back, but who knows what's going to happen. Who did we talk to that said when they got injured, they had to figure – Edge. Edge and James said that once he got injured, he had to, like, figure out the game. He said because naturally he was just fucking – By the way, I think he got, like, rookie – I think Edge had a lot of success earlier.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Oh, yeah. He came in, won Rookie of the Year, did his whole thing. Then he tore his ACL, and he's like, oh, I had to learn, like, what everybody was doing. I feel like that's where Saquon is, right? That's what it felt like when we were talking to Saquon. Now, Edge was able to apply it and become Hall of Famer and it's all nice to know that, but I think he's at least
Starting point is 01:55:14 acknowledging like, hey, I'm a different player now than I was, even though he's still young. If Saquon can still go and Danny Dimes is there and a couple picks, maybe that will be something that Schneider over there in Seattle says, yeah, why not? Now, granted, Seahawks fans are not going to be happy to hear that.
Starting point is 01:55:30 No. I don't want to be the bearer of bad news. I'm just telling you what everybody fucking talks about all the time. It's possible. Sounds like that is going to happen. Sounds like that's going to be possible. Going to be feasible. Carl Wentz is going to be able to move, allegedly.
Starting point is 01:55:42 Yep. Going to Pittsburgh. Yep. Feels definite. Done deal. There was a report today that they're targeting Jameis and Trubisky. Really? Bitch. Let's go to last chance cues, shall we?
Starting point is 01:55:55 Last chance cues. Let's go around here. Shout out to Dirty for the incredible graphic. Shout out to JB. Shout out to JB. He was on Last Chance University, but he did not create the series. But he was the best part of the entire series. He made the series what it is.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Oh, Buddy Stevens. Buddy Stevens. Buddy started. To be clear, never saw Buddy Stevens. Only saw JB. Only saw four episodes in which JB was a part of. That is all I've seen. But I do understand that it's a last chance cue here.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Jimmy G on the move or not. Shefty says maybe. Maybe not. Marcus Mariota, free agent. How you doing? Keep it moving. Maybe he ends up with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tyrod Taylor, also a free agent. Then you talk about Teddy Bridgewater, also a free agent. Mitchell Trubisky, free agent. Jacoby Brissett,
Starting point is 01:56:40 free agent. Cam Newton, who knows what he's playing. He sounded like he was alluding to retirement. He's a free agent. Drew Locke, you assume, is on the move potentially if they don't want him as a quarterback. Maybe he's in Pittsburgh. Sam Darnold, they picked up his fifth year. Seems like they're moving on. Gardner Minshew still wants to play.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Saw him and Flint talk about it. There's a lot of players at the quarterback position who might benefit greatly from this quarterback drought coming out of this draft class allegedly and these are all guys i think the teams are you know might end up settling on being like yeah let's fucking kick the tires and go another round here couldn't we see marcus mariotta become a starter again yes i thought he was going to get traded to be a starter to the
Starting point is 01:57:18 colts i thought yeah i thought he was potentially coming to the colts to be a starter after that las vegas raiders thursday night football game the, the one that Derek Carr tore his groin out of his body and then came back the next time. Mariota made some plays. I think people are going to be interested in him. Jameis Winston as well. I mean, if you're a team that needs a quarterback, which is a lot of teams right now, and by the way, a lot of teams means any quarterback or any team that didn't make the Super Bowl. It feels like that is kind of what the conversation is.
Starting point is 01:57:46 If they didn't go deep into the playoffs and they didn't pay their guy, let's assume they're maybe moving on for the next quarterback. James Winston might be a guy who's running again. First time since October. He's running on the treadmill. I think they have a lot of weight off of him while he's running. It seems like he is running probably like 50% weight or whatever. He's doing drills.
Starting point is 01:58:04 Maybe Jimmy comes in there and wins the spot. How about Trubisky after getting out of Nagy's umbrella? Maybe he gets in there and wins some games. What about Jimmy G? We talked about it earlier that he basically said goodbye to San Francisco, but then they said they might not get rid of him. Do you think that there's a good chance that one of these guys towards the bottom there, like Bridgewater or something,
Starting point is 01:58:23 will go and back up Trey Lance or like are they going to bring in any of these guys if Jimmy G's not there man I have no idea what they're going to do in San Francisco what do you think they're going to do in San Francisco he was gone then Schefter who's pretty plugged in right most places we assume because I'm 100% sure he's gone it's like whoa whoa whoa is that because they didn't know what was out there whenever they initially said it was over and he gave his goodbye speech I just wonder about a lot of that. That was a big-time play before the draft for us to be asking that question right now, I think, AJ.
Starting point is 01:58:52 Well, Jimmy, if they're not sure if Jimmy's going to be gone or not, is that strictly because they're not sure on Trey Lance and what they have in him and he may need some more time? That's what Schefter said. Yeah, Schefter basically said that, yeah. But didn't they know that two weeks beforehand when Jimmy G was doing all his goodbyes and everything like that he's it's been fun guys and then there was an entire like we have agreed with Jimmy on finding a proper trading home and everything like that and if their plan was to get rid of him after last year like
Starting point is 01:59:17 they mentioned right after the draft like what then why would you get a guy who potentially isn't going to be ready for three years? By the way, Jimmy G is beloved. Jimmy G is beloved by his teammates wherever he goes, and he'll handle this with dignity because how's your family? Of course. Can I ask you, besides Jimmy G, because he's been to a Super Bowl and he's led his team and stuff like that, which guy on that list, like if the Colts do move on from Wentz
Starting point is 01:59:41 and you can't get Aaron and you can't get Russ and whatever, is there a guy on that list that you would be most excited about as a fan? Mariota, I think. Really? I think so. He said no Jimmy G, right? Yeah. I think Mariota I'd be most pumped about because he can run.
Starting point is 01:59:56 We got Jonathan Taylor back there. We got an offensive line here. We get a quarterback that runs and doesn't kill himself. That'd be great. Yeah. But I think we also need a weapon, too. A lot of people are talking about free agency stuff, and I saw Orlovsky put out his top five moves that he would like to see made
Starting point is 02:00:12 before the NFL season. Godwin to Green Bay is what he would like to see. The Colts need some weapons as well. Obviously, everybody focuses on the quarterbacks. There's a lot of vets that are up. A lot of them coming out of Tampa, obviously. But there's a lot of vets out there. Devontae Adams, who knows what's going to happen there.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Everybody's thinking it's a franchise tag. JC Jackson, that's becoming a lot of noise. A lot of people talking about him wanting money up there with Jalen and them. He's probably going to get franchise tagged is what everybody thinks. 100%. 100% going to get there. Jesse Bates III, playmaker. Hey.
Starting point is 02:00:44 Stunt. Playmaker. Yeah. Ballhawk. Oh, yeah. Hey. Stud. Playmaker. Yeah. Ballhawk. Oh, yeah. Somebody's going to want him. Armstead. Mike Williams.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Jensen. Godwin. Whoa, everybody's going to want Godwin. Yeah. Everybody's going to want Godwin. Off the ACL, will he go cheaper? That's interesting. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:01:02 I was thinking about that as well because being injured, especially with something that serious, normally people would shy away. But I think Godwin is pretty, pretty is pretty highly respected by everybody in the NFL, AJ. Absolutely. He seems to be one of those guys with projected contract at four years, $70 million. You've got to have some space if you want to bring him in. Yeah, but you know how that shit goes. Chandler Jones, that's a big one out there too.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Chandler Jones is huge. Remember, he had a beef with the Arizona Cardinals last offseason. Before, yeah, during camp, didn't he? Yeah. Did he have one of those sit-ins for a little bit? I think he didn't show. I don't know. That's poor.
Starting point is 02:01:35 Those binoculars are dirty. Put up on the top there and try to look into that whole thing. I don't know. I think he had a sit-in. He was still out of practice when the whole thing was going on. Man, that's an interesting situation. Well, the new CBA, it has to happen. Von Miller, he's up.
Starting point is 02:01:49 Oh, man. Bring him back to the Rams. Stephon Gilmore, Allen Robinson, Aaron Donald. When he was drunk, he said he's coming back. He could do that if he wanted to. Feels like he just – he's so good at football. Von Miller had to help out so much to Aaron Donald as well. And that entire Floyd, Lloyd.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Yeah, Leonard Floyd. Floyd and that whole defense. If they can somehow bring everybody back like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were able to do and not have a situation where somebody ends up retiring at the end of that, the Rams and that NFC, well, it's just them staring down Green Bay inevitably it seems like. Kind of, yeah. Depending upon what Aaron says.
Starting point is 02:02:25 True. True. Right. And also, if the 49ers have kind of been in the conversation, too, but if Jimmy G leaves, I mean, their roster is good, but I don't think you're as confident in them, especially in that division, as you would be at Rams. Yeah, the NFC West is tough. And what's going on with Kyler Murray?
Starting point is 02:02:40 Right. Who knows what's going on with Kyler? That's wild. Seattle, too. That's wild. Because Seattle could easily come back next year and have 12 wins just because of how good Russell Wilson is and if he doesn't get hurt.
Starting point is 02:02:49 And if he's on the team. And if he's on the team, they have cap space. I mean, Saquon, Danny Dimes out there. Saquon did say, remember though, Saquon said when he was out there with us at the Super Bowl that they lost a lot of games they could have won, like very close games. He said, I know it doesn't sound like it, but we're a lot closer than people think.
Starting point is 02:03:07 He started talking about the roster, about all the players that are very good. It's like, all right, I like what he's saying. That's what a good teammate would say. But as somebody that hasn't paid close enough attention to the Giants, because the Giants fucking stink, I can't verify if that's right or not. By all accounts, Day Bull is an unbelievable coach. When AJ said that, it just reminded me when they went off sides against the Commanders last season on the last play in that field goal.
Starting point is 02:03:29 So I guess there were a few games that they should have won that they didn't. We are Commanders. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. I don't want to go against Saquon and what he said on the show because he's a good guy. But they lost their last games by 11 16 15 14 26 and 15 yeah but there's a couple plays they're running cuba sneaks how about this though this has the 49ers right now at the four spot does that mean jimmy g stays
Starting point is 02:04:02 they that that would assume that was because i don't think that was always that way, was it? I think they're preparing, right? They have to prepare. This was like last year whenever they were trying to odds the Packers and if he was coming back or not in Broncos. Like the sports folks are just trying to save their asses, it feels like. Niners at plus 13. Niners are incredible.
Starting point is 02:04:20 That locker room, that roster. I mean, it's just top of my head. You think, oh, George Kittle's on that team. Yeah. Debo Samuel's on that team. Yep. That defense is fucking stacked. Trent Williams.
Starting point is 02:04:31 Trent Williams is pulling in motion. He's going in motion. That team is stacked. Whoever gets to play quarterback there is in a great spot. The Indianapolis Colts got a plus 2,600. All right. Wow. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:04:43 They should keep Carl. Get him around. They should. You think they should be up that high, Pat? Up that high? This Colts got a plus 2,600. All right. Wow. Look at that. They should keep Carl. Get him around. They should. You think they should be up that high, Pat? Up that high? What are you even talking about? I mean, Colts, Cardinals, Patriots have worse odds than the Colts.
Starting point is 02:04:58 Cardinals fucking have the same agent for their quarterback and their head coach. And the agent just said, pay us $250 million. Okay, they got problems over there. The fact that we're that close with the Cardinals, I'm not thrilled about. I'm not thrilled about that at all. Patriots, no bull. Mack Jones, what? One year. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 02:05:14 One year. We got seven pro bowlers. None of those asterisks pro bowlers either, Connor. Yeah. You don't have the most important position on the field, which is quarterback, unfortunately. You guys want to trade Mac Jones? Carson wants straight up? I wouldn't trade Mac Jones for anything.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Anything. That's right. What happens when Mac Jones' agent puts out a letter? Yeah. He wouldn't do that. He's a blue-collar guy. He would never talk shit. Oh, Kyle Murray's not blue-collar?
Starting point is 02:05:39 You don't think he would? It doesn't sound like it. It doesn't sound like it. He plays video games. Yeah. He's always good at everything. Face Glenn. Face. Also, check this it. He plays video games. Yeah, but he's always good at everything. Face Glenn. Face.
Starting point is 02:05:46 Also, check this out. I saw this the other day. That's their thing because it makes an F. This is their thing? I thought this was their thing. Who lied to me? I saw them doing photos like this. Doing this?
Starting point is 02:05:57 That's cool. Mine looks cooler. I don't think that one looks like an F. That looks more like an F there, too. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you what they're doing. I think this is actually silent. I love you and then F. What's going on, dude? Yours looks like an F there, too. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you what they're doing. I think this is actually silent. I love you and then F.
Starting point is 02:06:06 What's going on, dude? Yours looks like an F. Mine? Yeah. Yeah. Just like that. FaZe Clan. FaZe Clan.
Starting point is 02:06:14 You're saying they're doing that right there? Yeah, I saw it in a photo when they were doing that seven-on-seven with Brett Favre and Mike Vick. Wow. That's crazy, dude. I don't know. Is he on salary from FaZe Clan? Yeah, everybody.
Starting point is 02:06:24 You get fucking signing bonuses. Him, Bronny. Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons is on FaZe Clan? I think so. Can I join? How do I get on the team? You got to be fucking good.
Starting point is 02:06:35 At what game? Any of them. You don't just get handouts on FaZe Clan, dude. You're not good at games. What do you even know? By the way, I think we're building an eSports team back at the high school. Ooh. I'm very excited for that. I'm very excited for that.
Starting point is 02:06:46 I'm very excited for that. I think Plum, you know, the body types in Plum and the humans in Plum, I think there's a good chance. What are you saying? There ain't no left tackles coming out of Plum. You know what I mean? There ain't no... Our basketball team is crafty,
Starting point is 02:07:02 but I think as soon as it was to get to like a high level, they're going to get to like, you know, high level, they're going to get dunked and swatted on. Sure. But I think esports is a place where really, like I think back to my brother and his, they were fucking very good. If they actually had a chance to like focus on that, it's like maybe they are, you know, especially in the video game world that we're at.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Yeah. Plus Pittsburgh's been looking for an esports team for a while. They got one. The Knights actually fucking look into it. Oh, the Knights. Yeah, pal. I've already looked into theSports team for a while. They got one. The Knights actually fucking look into it. Oh, the Knights. Yeah, pal. I've already looked into the entire thing. It's not a FaZe clan yet.
Starting point is 02:07:29 It's not a FaZe clan yet. But the Knights are in town. Wait till you see the plum Mustangs on the sticks, guys. Oh. I think they're also getting computers from the bill that I saw. Really? Some comps. Those are not cheap.
Starting point is 02:07:41 Hey. Really? You don't cut corners whenever it's potential futures on the line. You know? That's what it's all about. That's what they say. AJ, anything to say to the SiriusXM listeners before we get out of here, before tomorrow? Monday, Mad Dog will have a lot of juice, and I think you guys should really enjoy listening to him.
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