The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 619 - Happy St. Patrick's Day, March Madness Begins, Ian Rapoport, Quentin Richardson & Shams Charania
Episode Date: March 17, 2022On today's show, Pat and the boys celebrate St. Patrick's Day and watch the NCAA tourney games live on the show and welcome in two legends. First, 13 year NBA veteran, 2005 NBA 3-Point Contest Champio...n, 18th overall pick of the 2000 draft, co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast, Quentin Richardson joins the show to chat about today's NBA, how the league has changed since he was in it, what young players need to do to really break through, his career as a whole, if he follows college basketball at all, what is wrong with Russell Westbrook, if one guy can win a championship anymore, and much more (30:53-1:02:50). Later, friend of the progrum, Shams Charania joins the show to chat about breaking news, if he's watching the NCAA tournament, if he has a beef with Kevin Durant, and what's going on around the NBA (1:16:42-1:36:56). Also joining the progrum is friend of the show, NFL Network, Ian Rapoport, to chat about where Deshaun Watson is going to wind up and how close that decision is, where Baker Mayfield is going to wind up, Von Miller's new deal with the Bills, and what else we need to be paying attention to (12:02-22:58). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, Happy St. Patrick's Day, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, beautiful people.
It is St. Patrick's Day here at youtube.com forward slash the Pat Mackey show.
This sports show begins right now.
Yeah.
Here's to you, huh?
Here's to you watching at home, remembering that there is an annual festivity that reminds
us all that you're allowed to have a great fucking time.
And I know the last two years, 700 days or whatever it's been,
with Uncle COVID being an absolute asshole, has been tough on us all.
But the Irish, those of us who like to booze and other Irish stuff.
Right, right.
Eat potatoes.
I'd like to remind everybody that on March 17th,
you're allowed to look in the mirror and say,
Hey, today and other days, I'm allowed to have fun.
I'm allowed to forget about life for a little bit.
I'm allowed to raise a frosted mug of green beer and say,
Hey, there's red chips.
There's blue chips.
There's old chips.
There's new chips.
But there's no chips like friend chips chips there's new chips but there's no chips like friendships
slainte to you all let's have a hell of a show cheers to you boys the talk show table is here
at boss of karma at ty schmidt cheers to you guys the green keg came in properly this morning uh
mitt tried to tap the keg and before that happened obviously i said now listen i haven't done this in
some time okay i have not tapped a keg in a while that happened, obviously, I said, now, listen, I haven't done this in some time.
Okay?
I have not tapped a keg in a while.
But we need to get that motherfucker outside.
Okay?
Because I've seen how this goes before.
Now, we go out there.
Mick tries to tap it.
It explodes in his face.
Right.
It was a perfect beginning to the St. Patrick's Day.
Now, we've got some ice cold bears.
What?
Frosted bugs.
What?
And March Madness is officially beginning here in the coming moment.
Hell yeah.
What a beautiful Thursday.
We have Ian Rappaport joining us in about 10 minutes
because he continues to report these contracts in a fabricated fashion,
which I thought we had figured out with Aaron Rodgers' contract
that that was no longer happening.
Von Miller signs for six years, $ dollars is that real no no no no
it actually wasn't it wasn't no not at all it's like a 40 million dollar deal or whatever but
they added six so that they could separate the salary cap back so it could be a little bit more
cap friendly brandon bean didn't stop there give me me Von Miller for a six-year deal that we can spread out the salary cap hit.
Give me O.J. Howard and we'll cut Cole Beasley.
The Bills have been active over the last 12 hours.
Speaking of active, the Deshaun Watson watch has heated up immensely.
Everybody's giving out their projections on when this thing's going to end.
Look for that thing to end tonight or tomorrow morning.
Jay Glazer, which hashtag?
Jay knew.
But in this particular case, Jay didn't know.
Other people came out and said, look for no real timeline on the Deshaun Watson because he is actually torn.
Because all the presentations that were presented to him from the Panthers, the Saints, the Falcons, and the Browns were all so damn impressive.
And he doesn't know what he wants to do yet.
So look for this to take a little bit of time.
Then our guy Lombardi comes out and says
look for this thing to end in the next fucking 12, 36
hours. As of this
morning, by the way,
Cleveland Browns out of the sweepstakes.
A little AFC North
foe there, Atone Diggs, who has a nice
green beer,
drinking to Deshaun
Watson not being in the AFC.
That's good for you.
And a guy named Joe Person, who works for the Athletic down there in Charlotte,
he said the Carolina Panthers also probably out of the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes.
We don't know who he is, but he seemed to be very, very convinced
that unless a Hail Mary comes, Deshaun's not going there.
So that leaves two options now.
It's the Saints or it's the Falcons.
It's him going back home to Atlanta.
The only team that he met with in the home city,
he went to Atlanta, which is where he's from,
to meet with the Falcons.
That was a big piece of information.
Maziano even said,
Ooh, this is interesting here, says Maziano.
Then he followed up with the Saints for a second visit.
It's like a recruiting situation.
Where is he going to end up?
I have been pretty steadfast since the Falcons have gotten into this
that he's going to end up with the Falcons.
Just because publicly the Blank family has been promoting, like,
hey, this guy was a ball boy for us.
Come back home.
We love you.
I guess the pitch and the presentation was very in-depth.
Every team had their owner there, their GM there, and their coaches there.
So that's not different with the Falcons. But I guess the Saints, who were able to get rid of $71 million in cap space,
not only just to get back to the salary cap, but now they have $31 million available.
So they were able to clear $100 million in about three weeks.
They're now in top 10 in cap space whenever they were the
worst just three weeks ago. Mickey Loomis
down here.
Making absolute magic.
New head coach. Still got studs
on the defensive side of the ball. Offensive
side, you still got Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara.
Taysom Hill just restructured his
contract, but they listed him as a quarterback, by the
way. Not T-E-H-Q-B
specialist. Nothing like that.
They said QB, Taysom Hill's contract.
So that could be a desirable position, but I've always thought as soon as
Atlanta got in, he's going to want to go back home.
Just with everything that happened, if that was me, give me fucking back home.
All right, everything that's going on, I'm going back home.
They're all in.
I guess either choice is a winner.
I guess that's how everybody's viewing it.
That could end today.
And with March Madness happening, there's going to be a lot to chat about.
At Ty Schmidt, you're rocking the Irish jersey.
Big win over Rutgers last night.
Huge.
Yeah, huge, Randall.
I mean, I did bet on Rutgers, so, you know, I am not.
That's not the reason.
Coach Lou Holtz made an appearance on the show yesterday,
and you bet against him?
Well, yeah, but Mike Bray, I just didn't know.
Rutgers, I'm a Big Ten guy.
I'm a Big Ten guy.
I've been watching them all year.
They're a tough team, tough as nails.
They choked pretty much.
It was a great game, went into double overtime.
But no, this is a Brady Quinn Notre Dame jersey, circa 2006.
I haven't worn this thing in probably 15 years.
I looked at it and said, fuck it, it's St. Patrick's Day. Let me throw this thing
on today. And I see the hat.
Obviously, Hawks fly. Hawks have to fly.
I think they tip at like 320.
I'm very, very excited for today.
I'm ready to go. How far do you have the Hawks going
in your bracket? I haven't won them the whole goddamn
thing. Oh, really? So you're going to lose?
No, no, no.
That's what Iowa does.
In years past, that is true.
But I'll tell you what, I've never seen a Hawks team fly like I've seen this team fly this year.
I really haven't.
These birds are flapping.
These birds are flapping.
Midway through the season, too, I said, listen, I'm done watching these fucking games.
This is the same Iowa team I see every year.
A lot of promise.
Then they choke.
They play terrible in the Big Ten.
Then they got hot.
Then they won the Big Ten.
Then they kind of got screwed over with their seating in the tournament.
Everyone's saying, hey, this draw that they got, don't worry about the five-seater.
Iowa is primed and poised to go all the way to New Orleans and win.
Everybody's saying that, right?
Yeah, a little bit.
A little bit.
But they got the guy.
I mean, Garza was good, but he's a post guy.
We got one of those guys who, when you need him to make a shot, you absolutely need a bucket.
You got Keegan Murray
and he's putting all the other Hawks underneath his wings.
The cool thing about Iowa is they will kick a guy right out and
hey, fuck Luka.
Yeah, I don't care.
Get him out.
Yeah, he's good.
We retired the man's jersey
a year after he left.
Yes, you never have to talk to him again.
I love Garza more than most. But listen, it's Keegan's team Man's jersey a year after he left. Yes, you never have to talk to him again. No, no, no.
I love Garza more than most.
But listen, it's Keegan's team now.
Okay?
And that team that Garza was on last year, they choked in the second round and got beat when they shouldn't have.
I have Iowa doing that again this year, by the way.
Choking?
And that's fair because that is typically what they've done in the past.
But this team's different.
This team will fly like they have never flown before and they're going to fly all the way
to New Orleans.
They tip off today at 320?
Yeah.
All right, well, good luck to them.
We'll be obviously watching the games live right here in the studio.
For those that have never seen this show while March Madness is happening,
let me break it down for you.
I don't give a fuck about any of these teams.
Nope.
Okay, I don't even think West Virginia got into the poopy CBI.
Turns out they did not.
They didn't even get invited into that.
They didn't even get invited into that. So for me, I am just betting massive amounts of money on each game.
Enough for me.
$1,500 on each game.
That's enough.
That feels like enough.
I have Colorado State.
I have Providence.
And I have Memphis.
And we have a graphic.
Bang!
Right there.
Zico just did that.
So this is what we'll be watching live during the show.
So if you want to watch alongside of us,
which I think the rest of the country is going to be doing,
you know, this is classic can't go to work day.
That's right.
Work from home day.
The Hatties.
A lot of that St. Patrick's Day and this happening.
Yeah, there's going to be.
I mean, we have a terrible, terrible service on this TV.
So that is going to have to get fixed.
Yes.
Especially with how much money I have currently riding on all these.
But look for the show to get distracted often.
We apologize, but it's St. Patrick's Day.
The green beer tastes delicious.
It really is.
Hey, happy Irish Day to you, Connor.
Hey, thanks, Pat.
Happy Irish Day to you.
It's never been better to be from the homeland in Ireland.
And this is one of those days you look forward to every year.
Just like July 4th. It's like July 4th for
Irish people, but it's more exclusive.
No, well,
exclusive means everybody thinks
Schmidt is the most German name of all time.
What?
See, listen to the pod's on back there.
Exactly.
Listen, I've done St. Patrick's Day
with so many
fucking, you know what I mean
nightmare fuel
no no no
for me
sorry
no it's a good time
because today
everybody's Irish
sure
everybody's Irish
except for
hardcore Italians
Instagram account
yeah well they don't know
shit about it
they need to get banned
from the fucking internet
still spread misinformation
on this program
what's that
it's Italian holiday
kick him out go figure how do you this is what I said St. Patrick by the way I texted this to Nick misinformation on this program. What's that? It's Italian holiday.
Kick him out.
Go figure.
How do you?
This is what I said.
By the way,
I texted this to Nick because Nick was sending
the same shit to me
this morning.
Hey, good morning, Pat.
Boom.
Here's a meme
that St. Patrick's Italian.
Boom.
Here's another one.
The Irish didn't even do St. Patrick's.
Say it to fucking Italians.
You're welcome.
This is what us Italians do.
I'm learning.
And I end the 23 million point
one percent. Us Italians got to make it about us all the time. Is that what we got to, I'm learning. And the 23 million, 0.01%.
Us Italians got to make it about us all the time.
Is that what we got to do?
Is that what we got to do?
Make it about us all the time.
No, we just like the truth because he was a Roman and he was kidnapped by the Irish
because they couldn't do anything good on their own.
No.
I don't think that's true.
He's probably too big of a fucking badass for Italy.
No, I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing.
You guys can't get rid of snakes?
I'll come over.
I'll get rid of snakes.
No problem.
Listen.
You don't know.
Come on.
We drink the green beer.
We have the mozzarella.
We get the blacked out by about noon.
The cakes and eggs are fine, but the provolone is better.
We eat this thing up and we collect the money.
All right?
That's what you guys do.
That was beautiful.
Yeah, I've never seen you guys acting like that before.
Nope.
St. Patrick's Day, all you guys running around with your little leprechaun fucking hats.
You two.
You guys.
What's that called?
Cultural appropriation.
Yeah.
Bingo.
You two.
Do it every St. Patrick's Day.
I'm 2.5% Irish.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I love to celebrate the homeland on this day every year.
2.5%.
Listen up, you Mick.
Don't you?
And you were throwing that around by all the way.
Mick Moroldo, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, Nicky O. Moroldo.
Unbelievable.
Let's get to some news.
All right, Tung Diggs, great to see you, buddy.
Great to see you, pal.
Grazie.
Grazie.
Sláinte.
Gin Don.
Sláinte.
Sláinte.
Gin Don?
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
Yeah, only the real ones know, so.
Is it Italian?
Is that an Italian thing?
Yeah, it's Italian.
Okay.
This is St. Patrick's Day.
This is an Irish day.
You son of a bitch.
What are you doing?
I got a text from a very, very Italian man at 5.30 this morning.
Okay.
Like, hey, good morning.
Congrats on your day.
He reminded me also that St. Patrick was an Italian man.
Sure.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Just one day.
You think Timothy McAfee's over there having a good time
hearing about all these goddamn Italians?
I doubt it.
Thinking it's their day.
And then Tim finds out on my 23andMe that I'm also 0.01% Italian.
He's like, who the fuck in our family tree was do-si-do-ing around?
Joining us now with some NFL news, hopefully to keep us updated,
a man who has gone back to his old ways of reporting contracts conveniently
immediately after reporting the Aaron Rodgers contract.
He's the one who reported a six-year, $120 million deal for Vaughn Miller.
Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport.
What's up? What's going on? Six years, ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. What's up?
What's going on?
Raps, six years, $120 million, huh?
Yeah.
Now, one thing, as a noted contract expert told me right afterward,
this guy, it was you, wanted to know what the real details were.
So I immediately informed this person, again, you,
that it was really a deal that
averaged 17 and a half million over four years and that was the important part so i made sure to get
that out immediately first and forefront no no no because the headlines were six year 120 six year
120 that was the big deal that's what you you reported and then we found that very interesting
you know because i didn't know if you, in the past,
had put out like,
Von Miller's looking to get $20 million a year.
So that's why you reported the six-year 120,
not the actual contract?
Well, I must say,
I thought Von Miller would get 17 and a half a year,
which I originally thought was wrong.
But then it turns out it's actually right.
Brandon Bean's active.
They get O.J. Howard.
They bring in Von Miller.
How many years is that Von Miller deal actually?
Like, they're not expecting him to play this thing all the way out, right?
This is a salary cap spreader?
No, I think it's really a three-year deal.
I mean, it's basically 17 and a half over three with 51 and a half guaranteed.
So that's like, it's basically a three-year commitment.
It's so interesting with the Bills.
So, you know, obviously i was tracking this yesterday and i knew the rams were in it i knew the cowboys were in it the browns were in it and then there was a mystery team
and nobody would tell me and it took me a long time to figure out that the bills are the mystery
team and that's sort of what i've learned is like the bills are always the mystery team
because they don't want anyone to know they're involved.
And they insist on secrecy, which is hard for me.
But who cares?
It also makes it a lot more fun when it's a big splash signing like Von Miller and it just gets dropped in our laps like that.
That was that was pretty cool moment, I have to say.
Do you think Von was planning on going back to L.A. or once he heard all the interest from everybody, he was like, like well I'm not doing the hometown that we won a Super Bowl yeah way to go somebody's about to
pay me 17 and a half million for three more years I don't know if the Rams were ever going to do
that was anybody else anywhere close to the money that he was getting from Buffalo uh no I think
those were the two strongest offers Cleveland was in but I don't get the sense you really wanted to
go there Dallas was in but not nearly sort of serious enough.
Like, I think they talked about money, but I'm not sure Dallas would say, oh, we really made an offer.
I think they would say we talked, but it wasn't going to work out for us.
They were not in that stratosphere.
You know, during the Super Bowl, during Super Bowl week, my colleague, Mike Garofalo,
reported that Vaughn was, like, really going to test free agency and could leave.
And I was kind of, like like skeptical and even said something.
I'm like, are you sure?
Because in my head, obviously he's going back to LA, but he was right.
And Vaughn must've known, like, I'm going to, like,
I'm going to really explore and I'm going to go find the best team I can.
I'm going to go find the best money I can.
And, you know, the fact that Vaughn Miller, one of the top free agents,
future hall of famer, chose the Bills over L.A. and the Rams
is literally unbelievable.
And Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott have created that situation.
It's awesome.
Well, and Josh Allen.
I think they're currently the odds-on favorites to win a Super Bowl next year
because of how the season ended.
Yeah, I think so.
At Fando, I believe they have the best odds.
It's them, the Chiefs.
Yeah, and the Bucs got in there.
It's a very good...
Did that jump yesterday?
The Bills did change for the division minus 50 points, I think.
It got better.
The odds got...
I think for this, too.
I think they were 700 and went to 650.
So when Commander Carson signs, zero change for the commanders.
Whenever Von Miller signs, bump up in that thing.
It's interesting to see who the sportsbooks respect and who they don't respect.
Let's keep it moving with somebody I assume they will respect.
Mike Garofalo just reported the Browns are out of the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes.
A man named Joseph Person, who we don't know personally,
he's in Carolina.
He said he feels like the Panthers also out on this.
Saints and Falcons are the last two left.
And how do you see this playing out, you think, with Deshaun Watson?
Yeah, so the Panthers have not officially been eliminated.
I would say Joe is usually spot on.
So they have not been eliminated.
I said Joe not
Person's a great guy
I've known him for a long time
That's not why he's spot on
I'm saying those are two separate things
But I have known him for a long time
I would say the Panthers still have a shot
But have not been told they're out
But it does seem to be
It's going to be Falcons
You know versus Saints
And I think it's
It's really interesting
Because there's a lot to like for both places.
And the ramifications are crazy.
First of all, I think if the Falcons don't know today by 4 p.m.
they have to pay Matt Ryan's $7.5 million bonus.
But is Matt Ryan going to get traded today by 4 p.m.?
I don't know that that's even – I mean, I guess anything's possible,
but I don't know that that's definitively going to happen.
If he goes to the Saints,
then he immediately becomes the face
of that franchise and city.
And I think that's a great place for him.
Plus, he doesn't have to face
Dennis Allen's defense twice a year,
which is also probably pretty good for him.
So two really, really good options.
And I get the sense the trade packages are pretty similar.
So the trade packages already had to be okayed by Houston right before they even met with Deshaun.
Is that an accurate report or no?
They had to be in the ballpark.
I would not say they're done.
They had to be good enough.
It couldn't be like, all right, one first-round pick.
It had to be like, all right, if this is in the ballpark, yes, you can have a meeting.
And then, you know, let's say he says, all right, I want to go to New Orleans or I want to go to Atlanta. My guess is then they would start really negotiating
and then we'd figure out what the trade package ended up being. Okay. So like Matt Ryan, he did
not restructure his contract. That's why the seven and a half million is still due. I believe if I'm
reading all these different reports accurately, if he was to restructure it,
the new team would pick that up.
Everybody's just assuming the Colts are getting like,
if Deshaun goes to the Falcons,
Matt Ryan's coming to the Colts.
Has Matt,
doesn't Matt Ryan have to waive his no trade clause.
And has he already been a part of this whole thing?
He would have to waive his no trade clause.
He has not done it yet,
but I'm kind of among those people that think that's at least a possibility
because it's funny, like Chris Ballard, I know he gets among those people that think that's at least a possibility because,
you know, it's funny, like Chris Ballard, I know he gets criticized for some things and he's definitely been real patient this year when everyone's dying for him to sign a quarterback.
This could actually play into his hands absolutely perfectly. If Deshaun Watson goes to Atlanta,
then he might end up with Matt Ryan. And like, that's a pretty good quarterback to add to a
really good rest of the team you might be you might actually be pretty happy with your Colts
I'd be pumped about it I would be pumped about I mean we're seeing where's Jimmy G going then in
Cleveland is that a top tier quarterback like they talked to Baker because that entire situation is
publicly awkward now granted that has happened in the NFL in the past and people have gotten past it
but what's going on in Cleveland and Baker, you think? So I think the Aaron Rodgers situation kind of changed my thoughts on this
because I remember thinking a year ago, I'm like,
I think they could just fix it, but it's going to take so much work.
What are the Rodgers going to talk about?
It's going to take so much work.
Like, I don't know.
And then they did an incredible job, and they fixed it.
And that makes me think that the Browns can fix it too.
Like, the Browns are a good team.
They got a good defense.
They got a good offensive line.
They got two great running backs.
They have a Mari Cooper now.
It might be the best place for Baker.
And so like, yeah, I think the Browns could fix it.
And then if, you know, let's say Matt Ryan, let's just play this forward.
Let's say Matt Ryan goes to the Colts.
Then like, could the 49ers just keep Jimmy G to training camp in case someone else has an injury?
Or beyond, could they just keep him and play him?
Like, all these things are possible and interesting.
So, I mean, Baker and Aaron, obviously two very different, you know,
very different situations there.
Chris Martinson said yesterday on ESPN that the Browns are looking for an adult
at quarterback or something like that.
Like, it's getting interesting on how this whole thing is panning out.
Hopefully it all works out.
Hopefully the Colts end up with an absolutely incredible quarterback.
When do you see the Deshaun Watson domino falling?
Because there's numerous reports.
Hey, look for it tonight or tomorrow, 24, 36 hours.
There's no timeline because he's torn.
Everybody's reporting different things.
What is your sense on this entire thing, Rep?
My sense is we'll have a pretty good idea today.
I don't know for sure, and it is an unbelievably difficult decision.
I think he likes a lot of these places.
It sounds like the process was really good.
So I hope we know today just for my personal sanity.
But it could be tomorrow.
I mean, we could get to
a situation where everyone's eliminated but two teams and he goes you know what i need to be sure
it's a choice of a lifetime it has wide range of ramifications i might sleep on it so like i think
we know today but we could know tomorrow all right i know you're in the middle of something you're in
a very nice car what is that genesis rose royce this Rolls Royce? What is this? GMC Acadia?
GMC Acadia.
Whoa.
GMC's doing it, huh?
It's my wife's car.
She's got the nice car.
Well, she's a badass, obviously.
Is that Jude and Max in the back there hanging out?
Where are you guys headed on a family?
Jude and Max, you want to say hi?
Hello.
Hey, great flow.
Hi, Lydia.
Hi, boss.
Hello, Mrs. Sheet.
Hi, Mrs. Sheet.
Yeah, very nice to see you, Mr. Sheet. Happy St. Paddy's Day. Happy St. Paddy's Day. I don't believe booze in yet. Okay, Leah. Hi, boss. Hello, Mrs. Sheet. Hi, Mrs. Sheet. Yeah, very nice to see you, Mr. Sheet.
Happy St. Paddy's Day.
Happy St. Paddy's Day.
I don't need booze in yet.
Okay, Jude and Max.
No booze.
Hey, guys, no booze.
Hey, it runs in the family.
Yeah, be careful.
Runs in the family.
Okay?
Jeez Louise.
Oh, my God.
What are you guys doing on a family trip right now?
I'm going to have to explain that to them a little later.
No, they know.
They see your IG stories.
This guy was just hammering this.
Please.
Is that apple juice?
Huh?
After free agency, I needed a little.
It has been a week, and it's not even done yet.
Well, yeah, and you're picking and choosing how to report contracts.
That has to be a stress.
No, only real true value. I'll report the overall, and then I will dig in the details and only real true value.
I'll report the overall, and then I will dig in the details and get real true value, and
I will send it to you.
Not every time, but a lot of times.
Yeah, but that's not how you reported the five-year 186.
You reported that one, we'll earn, like I said.
You know, that whole thing.
Like I first reported, yes.
Yeah, yeah, that was interesting.
Well, you're the best.
We appreciate you for taking time.
Enjoy today.
If you hear anything, please let us know.
Have a great St. Patrick's Day, pal.
Thank you.
Take care, guys.
Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapport and the Rap Sheets.
Yeah, Rap Sheets!
All right, we'll get to a break.
Colorado State up early.
Yeah, they can't miss from three.
Dogs.
Let's go, boys.
I parlayed all Let's go, boys. Yeah.
I parlayed all three of those, too.
Smart move. Today is potentially a $10,000 hour and a half.
Let's go.
Go.
All right, I'm up six grand because of Peter Kiss last night.
Shout out.
My fucking dude.
Yeah.
Peter Kiss in Indiana with that.
I got them winning, by the way, another one.
Oh, yeah.
Trendy pick.
I like that.
IU.
Is that trendy?
IU or Wright State? They've been playing very
good. IU. I got IU. Just strictly because of that
fucking kid. They're hot and
St. Mary's is hot. It's going to be a good ball game.
St. Mary's. Saw him play live. Yeah.
They got some dogs. Well, that guy
he's from Center Grove here in
Indianapolis. Jackson Davis. Tall, light-skinned
kid with the fro.
He's a dog. Jackson Davis. Yeah.
He's a player. Oh, yeah.
He drove the lane the other night.
Got off balance. Switched to his right hand with a layup. I'm like, ooh.
This dude's got some dexterity, too.
Peter Kiss.
One over. Second half player.
There's my bet from last night.
I mean, I'm fucking maybe the greatest
March Madness gambler of all time. You're hot.
I am hot right now.
Gumpy, did you get off the Schneider or what? Are we back? Yeah, 1-1 last night. I mean, I'm fucking maybe the greatest March Madness gambler of all time. You're hot. I am hot right now. Gumpy, did you get off the Schneider or what? Are we back?
Yeah, I won one last night.
Okay, here we go.
Notre Dame winning once it
went past midnight, Rutgers had
no chance. It was St. Paddy's Day.
Yeah, and Bray actually said,
Happy St. Paddy's Day.
Give me the whiskey.
We're Irish Catholic.
It's our booze day.
Why?
We can't lose day.
Why?
Watch Rockers.
Why?
New Jersey.
It's a bunch of.
There's no way.
Not a chance.
There was no way.
Not a chance.
Notre Dame was losing after midnight.
Now, there's no way I was going to watch the end of it either.
No chance.
Might be the game of the tournament.
It was awesome.
Unbelievable.
They were hot.
Out there on true TV.
What the fuck? All right. Yeah, it was a big time for them,. It was awesome. Unbelievable. They were hot. Out there on TruTV. What the fuck?
All right.
Yeah, it was a big time for them, man.
TBS.
Big weeks for them.
I saw the Impractical Joker still doing it without Joe.
Yeah.
What?
Still doing it, yeah.
Yeah.
That was a lot of commercials last night.
How?
You didn't watch the game last night.
Every commercial break was Sal Volcano.
Yeah, it was.
And Murray.
Yes, Joker.
Big Q with Eric Andre.
Eric Andre, yeah. Andre is a good one. By the way, that is something I would enjoy doing, Joker. Big Q with Eric Andre. Eric Andre, yeah.
Andre is a good one.
By the way, that is something I would enjoy doing at some point.
Got to do it.
Yes, have to do it.
Being a guest Joker or something.
Oh, yeah.
That'd be cool.
Because it's a hall pass to do whatever the fuck.
Oh, yeah.
No, no, no.
We're filming.
We're filming.
Sorry.
It's a practice joke.
You ever heard of it?
It used to be four guys.
Then one guy got kicked the fuck out of here for whatever reason.
Still three guys.
The guys you like the most are still here.
Still doing it.
True TV.
You know from March Madness. Also in Practical Jokers. The rest of the year, really nothing. But here you like the most are still here. Still doing it. True TV, you know from March Madness,
also Impractical Jokers.
The rest of the year,
really nothing.
But here we go.
Used to be Cops.
Cops is on True TV?
I thought,
yeah,
before.
But now they do
the live PD thing,
I thought.
Live PD got canceled.
Cops is actually
coming back,
I think.
Let's go.
What about Magic Truthers?
Is that still on it?
So that was that guy.
Dude, it's not Magic Truthers.
What was his name?
Carbonaro.
No, no.
Carbonaro.
Carbonaro.
No, Magic Truthers.
We had him on the show.
No, the Magic Jokers.
The guys who came on.
I think it was Magic Trick.
Oh, the Rabbits.
Oh, Big Trick Energy.
Big Trick Energy.
BTE.
I don't know if they got picked up for a set or two.
I don't know if they did either.
I think BTE needs to be L-I-V-E, not on TV.
Okay.
I think that's what inevitably people started thinking after watching maybe a couple minutes of the first episode.
I think you're probably right.
I think you're probably right.
Behind the scenes or the music group?
Come on, the music group.
I don't know.
Sometimes behind the scenes scenes do it very well.
Yeah, we did a little BTS around here.
Yeah.
Speaking of BTS, we're boozing.
St. Patrick's Day. Colorado state's up 14-9 this thing's running like gif brick uh-huh now they're back at the
fort and one and one oh great get off me let's go let's go colorado state is it roddy yes it was
give the ball to roddy he's the big guy underneath there in the green shoes.
He's a beast. He's St. Patrick's Day. He's got those
fucking green shoes. Oh, steal. Steal.
Hey, Juwan Howard's going to smack somebody
if he's going to start picking it up a little bit.
He's on the court, dude. Put a helmet
on. Colorado State's got
some dudes, huh? Oh, yeah. Oh, big
white up top. Two ankle braces.
Why? Why? Pick and roll.
Why? Feed back to the big white.
What?
Swing.
One-on-one into the paint.
Dish.
Kick.
Back to the big white in the paint.
Dish.
Oh, boy.
What a fucker.
What a possession.
The game on, obviously, in the studio.
We assume you all are watching along at home,
maybe housing some green beers like
us. And here's to you. You know, it's been
a hell of a year. It's been a hell of a two years.
COVID tried to kill St. Patrick's Day,
but just like all good Irish folks,
came back better, stronger
than ever. Now we're drinking beers,
there's school buses outside, there's a whole
parade happening. All of Indianapolis
is shut down. I don't know if they're doing it right.
Most cities that get incredibly intoxicated
for St. Patrick's Day normally do the Saturday
before or the Saturday after.
Indianapolis says, nah, we're doing it on the
goddamn day that St. Patrick,
that great Irishman,
freed all the snakes and got the
hell out of Ireland and everything like
that. So, sláinte to all of you for
watching. Quentin Richardson will be joining us. He was
in the NBA for 13?
13, 14 years. 13 years.
Long time. Now he has a podcast called the Knuckleheads
Podcast with Darius Miles. Perfect
guy to join us. Went to DePaul, McDonald's All-American.
Absolute stud. Perfect guy
to join us during this March Band. Oh, yeah.
For those that are new here, that's the
Toxic Table at Ty Schmidt. He's
10 to 12 beers deep in the
last 12 hours. Yeah. What? Yes, I am. And I'm ready to's 10 to 12 beers deep in the last 12 hours. Yes, I am.
Yes, I am.
And I'm ready to add 10 to 12 more on in the next 12 hours.
The entire keg here being available for Ty Schmidt with frosted mugs is basically a death sentence to his liver.
Especially with Iowa tipping off at 320.
It's just not good, my friend.
You know, Mrs. Schmidt, Caitlin, is just sitting there watching this whole thing.
Oh, this is fucking wicked.
We're going to have to carry Ty around at 5 o'clock.
But that's St. Patrick's Day, baby.
That's right.
She's been there before.
Boston Connor, absolutely looking fantastic,
wearing one of our cease and desist shirts from Larry Bird, obviously.
One of one.
Yeah, that is one of one.
We put that up for sale for less than 12 hours,
and Larry Bird's people said,
I don't want fucking anybody you ever remember,
and I even existed.
Take it down.
Get me off it.
He's on the new Capital One commercial, though, with Sue Bird.
He daps up Charles Barkley and has a pretty good laugh at the end of it.
Really?
Yeah.
Larry Bird laughs.
Great to see Larry Bird back in public, by the way.
Absolute icon legend.
Ton Diggs is here, one half of the hammer.
Dive.
Cowboys.
He's obviously Italian, but he's Irish for the day because it is St. Patrick's
Day in the back there.
Nick Moraldo, who is also
Irish, but chose to wear an Italian
shirt today. Well, I'm also Italian,
predominantly Italian, but today, you know, we want to celebrate
the heritage, so...
Sláinte.
I don't know. Sláinte.
Zeta, are you having some beers back there?
Yes, sir. It was a little bubbly back there.
A little foamy.
So I had to let it foam and settle a little bit, you know?
Well, I heard.
Okay, Sauncha.
Sauncha.
Foxy?
Sauncha, pal.
Are you Irish?
Scottish.
Is that kind of the same thing?
I think so, yeah.
Kind of the same thing.
I've been to Ireland.
That's why I went.
Hey, by the way, I've been to Ireland, too.
They do not like us.
No, not at all.
They wanted me kicked out of a bar, actually.
Boom.
That happened to every bar I walked in over there.
I honestly thought, hey, he's coming home.
Coming home.
Patrick McAfee is here.
That was not the case at all.
No.
Get this fucking yank out of me.
Thank you.
I'd like to buy a beer for everybody.
We don't want your beer.
We'll give you one beer.
You drink it in the corner over there.
Sancho!
I guess.
I did not expect that at all. No, not me neither.
We'll have to go back over there.
I guess it may be experiencing it.
Joining us now is one half of the Knuckleheads podcast,
which is an incredible podcast, alongside Darius Miles.
This man was in the NBA for a decade and a half.
Three-point shooting contest champion.
Former McDonald's All-American.
Wanted to paw.
March Madness is happening.
And South Dakota State has a white with a headband on
who is silky smooth.
But Providence is doing their thing.
Ladies and gentlemen, Quentin Richardson.
What's up, dude?
That's good, man.
Thanks for having me.
Good to be here.
I see y'all always like to have a good time.
I'll tell you, it's St. Patrick's Day, and us Irish white, you know,
like today is a day where it's like, hey,
you're allowed to get absolutely intoxicated.
My dad would be blacked out by like 11 or noon.
Not a drinker, by the way, but just like, hey,
we got to celebrate the fact that the Irish are doing something here.
So it's a great day, Quentin.
When you watch March Madness,
are you as plugged in with college basketball as you are the NBA, or
do you not care about college ball?
Oh, he's pressing.
That's probably not.
It's probably the green beer.
I bet there's people pouring green beer
out on the goddamn electrical boxes.
That's probably true.
Oh!
Goaltend.
Oh.
Ladies and gentlemen, Quentin Richardson!
Yeah!
Did we lose you? That's probably our fault.
I don't know. I'm here. I'm here.
I see what's going on.
Okay, you look amazing. You sound amazing.
You were a little bit frozen there a second ago.
Do you follow college basketball as closely,
or are you mostly just an NBA guy now at this point?
I do, but not as closely as I follow the NBA.
Like I got my particular team, my best friend coaches Cleveland State.
They just got put out of the NIT.
Dennis Gates is their coach.
I follow them, follow a little.
I mean, obviously I follow the major teams with the best players and stuff like that,
but I don't, I'm not as in tune with it as I am with the NBA right now.
How many, can you tell by looking at a college basketball player
whether or not they're going to make it in the NBA?
I feel like the NBA is one of the only sports where it's like,
that motherfucker's going to make it, that motherfucker's going to make it,
that guy isn't.
It's strictly because of the body and the type of build,
or is there something I'm missing?
Usually for me, when I look at guys, I can tell I need a good game or so to watch.
After I've seen them play a good game or two, I can tell whether, you know,
I feel like I have a good kind of feel for whether they're going to be any good in the NBA or if not.
But, I mean, sometimes some guys slip through the cracks and, you know, you kind of miss on them. But for the most part, I think most of us NBA guys can look at college guys and tell if they're going to translate.
You're an incredible shooter.
Obviously, you won a three-point shooting contest,
but you just had a stroke.
Steph Curry has obviously come in and completely changed the game as a whole.
There's a lot more guys that are just shooters that might be like 6'6",
that think they have a shot.
Is Steph Curry only being judged as a shooter kind of unfair
because the dude's got, what, sick handles?
He grew up in the NBA as well, right?
It's not just like if you have a shot, you're Steph Curry.
Yeah, no, he's so much more than just a jump shot.
I mean, his ball handling ability, I mean, he's not the best,
but he's one of the best ball handlers.
He can pass unbelievably.
And I think the thing about Steph that makes him so special is, like,
when you think shooters, you think, okay, you know, Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, those type of guys catch and shoot. What makes Steph Curry so deadly is that he can
come off the dribble. He can bring the ball up the court, boogie you down, mix you up and make
you look silly and still shoot the three from, you know, two, three steps behind, you know,
the three point line. But also he can get off the ball. He can go turn into, you know, he can let
somebody else have the ball,
and he can turn into a Ray Allen and run you off a million screens
and come this way, that way, and still shoot the ball as deadly.
So I think, you know, there's not a lot of guys that could do both of those things
with the ball and without it.
And that just makes him a dual threat that's just, you know, he's horrifying the guard.
Yeah, he's awesome to watch, though.
Like, as a spectator, it's electrifying.
It looks like he's running a fucking marathon every game, too,
whenever he's just going around.
And then you see all the OGs in basketball, knees, iced both knees.
It's like, well, Steph, I don't know how much longer he can do this.
Maybe because he's smaller, he's able to accomplish that.
But at what point does everybody's knees – because hardwood, by the way,
not exactly the easiest.
But you guys are just running gassers.
Basketball is just gasser, back and forth, back and forth. People are like, oh the way, not exactly the easiest. But you guys are just running gassers. Basketball is just gasser.
Back and forth, back and forth.
People are like, oh, they're not trying.
They're not giving the most effort or whatever.
It is an immense amount of running.
Is cardio like the number one thing for NBA guys?
Or is it more physical?
What do you think?
I think it depends on the guy.
But I think when you look at a guy like Steph,
he absolutely is one of the highest and top condition athletes.
And I think the thing that he doesn't get a lot of credit for is that he,
if you look at him when he first came into the league,
he's done an amazing job of like, you know,
getting in the weight room and taking care of his body.
He's added a lot of muscle.
He's still, you know, in the scheme of things,
he's a small frame, slight frame guy.
But I think if you look at him from when he first came in to now,
it's a huge difference. And he's added a lot of muscle to be able to deal with the physicality that
he deals with.
What is that?
Is that OGs telling me you're going to have to do this?
I remember LeBron changed from, he was a D end, and then he became a split out tight
end almost.
He tightened up completely, started playing more.
Zion is a big conversation.
Who's going to have to tell him like
hey listen you're a freak athlete but you're gonna have to change the way you operate to become the
guy that we all think you're gonna be is that somebody that he does he have to do that himself
do you think that's a business person you think that's a team what do you think that is for him
i think anybody can tell him anything you know the team can tell him the team can try and force
him but until zion himself makes that decision,
not anybody else in his family until
he looks in the mirror and says
that I have to do this and I need to do this
for myself and for my career, nothing
will change until he wants it to. I think
he's the one who has complete... I mean, he's in
a unique situation. When you look at guys in
their first contract, it's not a lot of guys
that's made $100-plus million off the
court. He's dwarfed what he's made plus million off the court he's he's he's
dwarfed what he's made in nba dollars and what he's made in in sponsorship and endorsement money
so i mean whereas usually in a situation like this you can dangle that in front of the guy you can
say hey you need to do this you need to tighten up you need to get this next contract like
in zion's position it's it's kind of a double-edged sword because he's looking at it like they have to pay me.
If New Orleans wants to keep me, they have to pay me.
And so for that, it's like I don't need to do anything different than I've done.
So for me, I think the biggest thing for him is for Zion himself.
Once he makes that decision, I think all of us as athletes know,
you're an athlete, you've been told by a coach or a trainer,
you got to do this. But we all know that we are the only one who who truly hold that power
and who truly can make whatever these goals are happen by by putting in that work and and dieting
and doing whatever you need to do to get your body right quentin i um i only played punter by the way
so i had to take three steps and i i abused that hey i abused i got up like 265 270
and i literally was like well it's not broke so i'm not gonna fix it like i'm just gonna keep and
i got so fat then once i decided like you're saying to get into shape i like i became so much
better like i became happier i became like more energized everything became better and the ball
started flying further did you have that because you came into the league young i assume like most
nba guys mcdonald's all american was there a maturity process that you had to go through became better and the ball started flying further. Did you have that? Because you came into the league young, I assume, like most NBA guys.
McDonald's All-American.
Was there a maturity process that you had to go through naturally?
And do you think that would have happened regardless?
No, 100%.
It comes to a point where you have to make a choice.
And either you do or you don't.
And I think, you know, that choice, you know,
makes or breaks your career for the most part.
For me, I mean, I came in at 19 as a pro. And, you know, when I got to, when I got to New York in 06, I lost my brother and I
started to drink, you know, I didn't deal with it, right. I started to drink and I got heavy there.
My whole career, basically the three and a half to two or three of those years in New York,
I was heavy because I was drinking, I was drinking. I was drinking. And I got traded like
four or five times in like a month over the summer. And I landed in Miami. And I remember
having a conversation with Pat Riley and him looking me straight in my face and saying, hey,
I know that you've been drinking. You've been doing this. You've been doing that. He said,
this is the only opportunity. There's no second chance. There's no this. He was like, if I find
out this third or the third it's over we just send
you home we wash our hands it doesn't matter so like right there for me was a was a point in my
life where in my career where i had to make a decision like okay nobody can tell me anything
like i have to do this i i went down there i left my i came it was the middle of summer i left
immediately came there didn't go back home didn't bring any of my boys any of my friends and d wade and the real right were on that team
they were like my best friends they weren't even there for the summer i was there the whole summer
getting killed and it was like literally i went i lost like like 35 40 pounds in like six weeks
and you know that that was that for me i never went back to that
and it was like that that's the type of he you have to make that type of commitment like you
say for the betterment of your career and for you if you want to really do that but nobody can do
it for you you have to make that decision hey shout out to pat riley yeah honestly that's a
big time yeah absolutely you still talk to him or anybody else around the league still? I assume he would appreciate hearing that he changed your entire life.
No, I mean, Pat knows that I'm very, very tight with the Heat organization.
Still got really close ties with Spoh.
I talk to Spoh and the staff, a lot of guys off the staff a lot.
And, yeah, I mean, I'm very loud about that, about the impact.
I only played one year in Miami, and it was an emphatic, you know,
it was profound that year of playing there.
It taught me how to be a pro that late in my career.
I wished I could have played for them earlier.
Let's talk about the current NBA.
By the way, that's awesome to hear.
And hopefully this is something that Zion will hear.
And I'm assuming a lot of people have told him, like, hey,
you have to lock in.
All right?
You're no longer the kid that was a teenager on Instagram
dunking on little white kids in South Carolina.
You're no longer the guy at Duke that somehow you weren't able to win.
You're no longer, like, you are now a professional.
And if you really want to take the Zion, I know you're worth a lot of money,
but you can become the next guy.
Let's talk about who the guys are.
LeBron James, 10,000 points, 10,000 assists, 10,000 rebounds.
Left-handed, he wrote that on there.
And Omar, who runs SportsCenter, said that he did an interview with LeBron.
LeBron thinks he's a fucking lefty.
He just shot righty because he saw Michael Jordan do that.
Is that bullshit or is this something that actually happens, you think?
No, from what I heard, he truly writes and does everything left-handed.
So, I mean,
you got some guys that are like freaks of nature like that. He's not the only one. It's different.
I can't call him off the top of my head, but there are some guys out there that are like freaks of
nature like that. And I mean, everything that LeBron has accomplished, who would doubt that
anyway? So him, then what, Kevin Durant, everybody just naturally in the NBA thing saying he's number two guy
or he's the next guy after LeBron leaves?
Who are the guys you think that are going to carry the NBA here after King James' reign kind of ends?
I think you have to still look at, like you said, KD, the Steph, the Giannis, and then Joel Embiid.
And those guys are right there at the top of the list
for, like, the current guys right now, right now.
But I think you see the Luka Doncic's and the Jason Tatum's,
the John Morant's, and some of these young guys that are coming along.
They gnawing at the bit and trying to get their opportunity,
and they want now.
Hey, the NBA's in a great spot, huh?
Because you think about, like, Luka. Luka, shit trey young oh yeah talk shit john morant is a dog i mean
they're in for the next 10 15 years hopefully his eye on gets into shape hopefully he keeps going
the nba has never been in a better spot it from outside looking in do you agree oh absolutely
absolutely like like you say so many different superstars to root for and be
fans of so much talent i like like right now it's a lot of parody it's not just like how it was in
the last five or ten years where you know it's this team or that team like right now you you
know it's a group of teams but you don't really know who it's going to be so i think those things
add to the excitement and from a player standpoint you know i'm a former player so i always think from that like when you look at the contracts these guys are getting hey the excitement. And from a player standpoint, you know, I'm a former player, so I always think from that.
Like when you look at the contracts these guys are getting,
hey, the NBA is in a beautiful place.
These kids getting there.
They getting it right now.
I'm not mad at them at all.
It's only going to continue to grow, you'd assume.
Let's talk about some changes that happened this season.
James Harden obviously goes to Brooklyn from the Las Vegas Strip Club
to the Brooklyn Nets.
He lost 30 pounds overnight, Quentin.
He lost 30 pounds overnight, wasn't able to play for Houston, gets into shape.
He's playing for the Nets.
Him and KD being back together with Kyrie feels like they're like a trio that is going to be a problem for five, ten years.
Welcome to New York City basketball.
The Brooklyn Nets are the fucking team.
Then COVID happens.
The Kyrie stuff with the protocols where he's not playing.
James Harden's there.
He leaves.
Now him and Joel Embiid are in a good spot, allegedly.
Ben Simmons still not playing.
I don't understand what the fuck's going on there.
You probably know more than I do.
But when you look at like KD and Kyrie and Joel and James Harden,
and I know the three people or the power
three was is it going to become pairs now is that going to you think that's the next step
of the NBA evolution for teams because everybody's saying that KD and Kyrie will be able to go on a
run if he's allowed to fucking play in home games do you view it that way I mean I would agree if
Kyrie is is able to you know play play and the restrictions are off that they are as deadly as anybody and as big a threat as anybody.
I mean, you saw he scored 60 here in Orlando.
And I didn't go to the game, but like I watched the whole thing.
And so, I mean, you see what type of explosive player he is and the capabilities he has.
And I mean, I think they have a great opportunity if he's able to play even with Ben Simmons being limited or not available.
I think those two guys are that good that they can, you know, if they get on the road, it's hard to stop that.
But as far as like duos going forward, I think I think whatever teams can get their hands on, I think you'll see, you know, if teams can get three of those guys, they'll have three.
But if it's just two, you know, right now, you look at the you know joelle and hard and those guys are duos and so is kairi and kd but i think you know it's always
gonna be a it's like a power race it's like if a team could get as many of those guys they could
get they're gonna get them i don't think i know nba basketball enough just as an ignorant human
like well if you got one guy you can win games it's not like that anymore right you need at
least two to make the the magic, and you need role players.
Because the Lakers, I guess, lose all their role players.
Now they stink, even though they're like superstar driven.
How important is all of that, and what really makes an offense go in the NBA?
No, you absolutely.
It's no longer.
I mean, I think the league has gotten so much talent,
it's gotten too good to where one guy.
I think LeBron did that for as long as it could possibly be done.
But I think even when he was on his streak of going to eight or nine or ten,
however many straight finals, he still had co-stars.
He still had all-star teammates.
It hasn't been where it's just one guy.
I mean, Michael, he couldn't even do it.
He didn't start winning until Scottie became an all-star as well.
So, I mean, I don't think it's been where one guy can just do it.
I think, you know, LeBron moving from east to west or whatever,
it shifts the balance of power.
But I don't think one man can just win in the NBA anymore.
Hey, Lakers stink, huh?
Yikes.
They stink.
Hey.
I don't think it's just – I think a huge part of that is, you know,
Davis not being available.
I think if Davis is there,
he kind of,
is that because he got rich?
He showed up in that phantom.
You know,
it's not because he got rich.
And I think the difference is,
is that a lot of people don't understand that when you go to play in a,
in a,
with a Lakers organization or, or you to new york and you play for the
nicks or you play for you know some some of these certain teams where there's a there's a certain
standard that that you're going to be held to i don't think ad is doing anything different than
he was doing in new orleans he had injuries and he was in and out in New Orleans and different things. But the difference was that that was New Orleans. In LA, we expect championships. We expect wins. We expect
our stars to be available. And when you're not, we're not just going to sit back and be okay with
it. We're going to be like, especially if it's something where they feel they can be critical of
it. The, you know, these are the Lakers is the winningest franchise in the NBA. They have the most championships.
They are, that's their standard.
Championships are nothing.
So if we're not winning,
we're not going to be
a happy fan base.
And now people are learning that.
And they, you know,
it's not going to be just,
you know, you're being celebrated
when you're in this place
where we expect you to,
you know, be available
and your unavailability
is making us a sorry team,
basically, because I feel like if AD was healthy and he was available, Russ looks a lot better.
LeBron looks, I mean, he's phenomenal anyway, but I think he still looks better.
And like, you know, the team is better because when you look at the scheme of the makeup
of the team, Anthony Davis was supposed to be the workhorse doing what LeBron is doing,
and LeBron was supposed to be kind of like, all right, I'm in my later years.
I'm still going to do me, but, like, you're doing the heavy lifting
for the most part, and that hasn't been the case.
So I think, you know, when you look at the totality of everything,
what they traded away for Russ and then with AD being gone,
those are huge gaps.
You still shoot well, I assume?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like riding a bike.
That ain't going nowhere.
What the fuck happened to Westbrook?
That guy, he's chucking up air balls,
and you got Carl Anthony Towns and Patrick Beverly.
Like, what is this dude?
He's throwing passes 10 rows deep into the stand.
What happened?
Is he broken?
Is it confidence?
Do you think he wants out of there?
What is it?
I think it's the totality of everything
because this is how I measure when I look at Russ.
I feel like it's absolutely, totally going on between his head
because he's not to the point where he'll still blow by somebody
and kaboom, dunk on him.
So he still has his quickness, his athleticism.
But I think the passes, the turnovers, everything,
those are coming from being in a very bad space mentally.
You know what I'm saying?
And I think I know for a fact I can attest to that.
When you're not right for whatever the reason is,
and we can assume whatever it is, but for me, I look at it as
I've always looked at russ he's the ultimate
competitor nobody plays harder nobody cares more nobody has more pride about how hard they play
when i look at him now and see what's going on this is this is the sum of like he's back home
in l.a he's prideful about his city he he he represents his city and for him to not be
performing at the level that he knows he can
and that he wants to, and the team to be going the way it's going,
and then you add all of the other outside noise, the boos,
and like you say, the trash, all of these things that's happened.
This has never been this.
He's in unfamiliar territory.
Now, it's his job to find his way out of it,
but I'm not making excuses for him.
But I do identify that that's the problem that I see with him.
I don't see that his game, that he's like now he's falling off Suncliff.
I feel like he's in a very bad situation as far as like he's not.
He's had the ball forever.
He's been able to play his way out of whatever it was.
And now he doesn't have the ball and he's being asked to do things he's never been asked to do.
And it's a whole myriad of things that's happening at once.
And he's not, you know, obviously he's not playing well.
He hasn't had a great season.
But I don't think that this is like the end of Russell Westbrook.
Like his body and his game and the way he doesn't show to his health
or any of that has declined.
I feel like if he can get past this mental block,
that he can be back to, you know, Russ.
He needs ayahuasca.
He needs to go do
one of those trips.
I know it's a white thing,
but he needs to go down to Peru
or down to one of these things
and just get it all out of there.
I've heard incredible stories
of athletes and high-end people
who, for whatever reason,
get into a mental funk
and they can't get out of it.
And there's like, obviously there's sports psychiatrists and hypnotists and all that stuff for whatever reason, get into a mental funk and they can't get out of it.
And there's like, obviously, there's sports psychiatrists and hypnotists and all that stuff for whatever.
And I'm not saying everybody needs to do that. But it feels like he needs to get something out of there because the game is better whenever Brody is Brody.
You know, like as somebody that enjoys just watching dogs.
Like I like watching guys that are going to do whatever to win.
And when he would yam on somebody, talk shit to them,
and then threaten to fight a fan, it was like, yes, that is what I do.
I like that guy right there.
It's tough to watch.
I didn't know he was from L.A.
That's probably even more.
No, that's definitely a – you know, that powers it on.
Like, it's not easy to play at home.
And then when things aren't going right, it's that much tougher.
And you care that much tougher and you
care that much like he's a kid who grew up a lakers fan he this is this is like a childhood
dream of his and it's not going well like that's that's very difficult maybe he's pissed about
staple center being yeah that could be crypto you know i don't know i don't agree with that either
like i i don't that's fine i still call it staple Staples Center, to be honest. I'm just going to tell you that.
I'll always call it that. I mean, I'm from Chicago.
I still call it whatever
the Sears Tower.
No, no, what is it?
That's the Willis Tower.
For every Sears Tower in my eyes,
I'm like that.
No, no, it's the Willis Tower.
It is.
I think the WWE had one of the last shows as Staples Center there.
It was called Staples Center.
It was because I don't think it turned over until either December or January.
I forget what it was, but we were in there.
And I said Staples Center like 100 times.
I'm like live from Staples Center, live from Staples Center.
And I had all these crypto bots tweeting, it's a crypto.com thing, it's a crypto.com thing.
I'm like, I don't think anybody's going to call it that for a long time,
especially with them not playing great.
The crypto is a sick name, though.
If it wasn't the Staples Center, the crypt is a sick name.
We're talking to Quentin Richardson, 13-year NBA vet,
host of the Knuckleheads podcast with Darius Miles.
Can't wait to check that out, talking about the basketball world.
Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, Quentin, how do you feel about
the play-in game that they kind of recently
implemented when the whole entire bubble
started? We assumed it was strictly
because they wanted to get Zion
into the playoffs, so they decided to do
that whole entire thing. Do you think it's good for basketball
or no? I like
it. I'll say this. As a player,
as long as I was in that top six,
I love it. But know if i'm if
if if i'm in that seven eight i hate it now if you're in that nine ten and whatever down there
you love it but you know it's kind of it's kind of opinionated to me because i mean i like it as
a fan because it makes like you say they you can't really do that tanking thing anymore, and it makes
all the games down the stretch matter. You don't see
guys getting set out as much at the end
because all these games kind of, you're jockeying
for position. So for me, from a fan
standpoint, I love it, but I could see myself
as a player, like, if I was in that seventh
and eighth, I'm like, man, this is
the dumbest thing ever. Like, why am I
like, you know what I'm saying? But if you're not in it,
you're looking at it like, hey, it's some extra basketball
or something cool.
But that's my take on it.
I like it right now as a fan.
Yeah, it's like,
I mean, there's 80-some games
and then it all comes down
to one game.
So as a fan, it's exciting.
This is like baseball.
Baseball's got, what,
472 games?
162, yeah.
Nobody cares about any of them
and then there's that one night
where it's like, hey,
you get into the playoffs
when people are actually
going to watch right here.
It's just such a different mentality
in those sports. Such a long seat.
NBA is so long.
The road, the travel,
the health, the amount of bullshit
you got to go through. I think all that
is so much more important than what's even going
on the court. Last question for
me before the boys have a couple more. We appreciate
your time here today, man. Really do appreciate your
time. Happy St. Patrick's Day, by the way.
Happy St. Patrick's Day.
I'm sorry, man. I don't got a green beer to drink
with you guys, but I'll get one later.
All right.
Send one to us.
You're in Orlando. It's going to be a little bit.
Three hours. Elon needs to figure that the fuck out.
Hurry up. Elon, we need to get shit
like, I need to be able to just like, whoop, right to you.
Like at the bank when you pull in the tube?
Yeah.
Up in there.
Maybe Elon will create those little fucking tubes so we can send a beer to Quentin Richardson
down there in Orlando.
Hey, the Pacers fucking stink.
Why?
Because when I came to Indianapolis, we had a team.
I mean, we're competing against the Heat literally every single year.
I was going to the games.
The place was packed out.
Indiana has always been a basketball state.
The Pacers have always been a basketball team.
Is it because we're not going to be able to get free agents in Indiana?
Is it because the way the teams run?
Like, why are some teams so poor, you think, for so long in the NBA?
It's a funny thing, man.
Sometimes it has a lot to do with the ability to attract free agents.
And, and, and to be frank, like I, you know, I, as a, as a former player, you, you think about it when you,
the guys that really have the chance to go where they want to go,
they're going to go to the, you know,
to either teams that they got a really hard chance to win or to the cities
that they attracted to.
And so for Indiana, that hasn't been the case for a minute.
And I think they're in a situation where, you know,
you saw they just got rid of DeMontis Sabonis. I love the,
Tyrese Halliburton you guys just got. And, you know,
I think now things are kind of lining up for the team to make sense because
the Miles Turner and the DeMontis Sabonis thing was kind of like they were,
they were not,
you couldn't play both of them together,
and both of them were good enough to be playing,
so you had to let one of them go.
So I think now they have more of a vision where they're going with that.
And I think they're kind of like in a – not a true rebuild,
but like a mini rebuild because, you know, they're going to have some draft picks and trying to get some assets and build like that with the young core they have.
So, I mean, I think – I like some of the pieces they got.
I like Chris Duarte.
with the young core they have.
So, I mean, I think I like some of the pieces they got,
like Chris Duarte, like I say, Miles Turner,
and Tyrese Halliburton.
He's going to be really good, I think, for a long time.
So I think, you know, you guys got some good pieces.
Malcolm Brogdon, and they just got to continue to try and build on it. But you guys are right in that area where you're going to be in the draft lottery
and you got to hope you hit whoever you got to hit.
You can do that.
You got like a 4% chance guys get. You can do it.
You've got like a 4% chance of hitting. You can go ahead.
We lost to the John Morantless Memphis Grizzlies.
John was wearing a ski mask on the sideline,
losing to the fucking Grizzlies.
Yeah, you saw that, Quentin.
Yeah, I did too.
I'm like, what are we even doing here?
I mean, we're getting our asses kicked.
You got it, Quentin.
Quentin, we were talking about duos,
and we were talking about the NBA's young stars in a franchise that you were great with.
You didn't mention Devin Booker and Chris Paul in there.
Obviously, they made it to the finals last year.
Do you think they're good enough to do it again?
I think they have a one-track mind.
They are the team, those two guys, and I think the whole team from top to bottom line up.
The team, those two guys, and I think the whole team from top to bottom line up.
And they've come out from training camp, from the season start,
with a mindset that they need to get back to the finals,
and they're trying to win it.
I think them getting there last year gave them a taste of it.
And I think you saw a team that's come out this year and came out like a team that's trying to get back there and win it all
and right the wrong from last year.
Hey, that place is off
phoenix i love phoenix i only had one year but i absolutely loved phoenix i loved it so you're
saying you can still shoot right now you go out there you light it up yeah as long as i got to
stand still you know i'm not about to run around and do i look like you said i ain't got all that
no more but i could i could stand there and spot you with whoever.
Whenever?
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, I got it pretty good.
I'm a white dude in Indiana now, so it is.
It is.
You know what I mean?
I've seen you shoot before.
I'll see you got a stroke, but I'm confident in mine as well.
As you should be, guys.
Quentin, there are obviously outliers when you talk about john some of these other guys who are younger and who are
prominent stars already but it seems like most of the guys who get drafted kind of just never amount
to anything in the league and you know you mentioned you came in at 19 and it seems like
in your era guys made impacts being younger earlier do you think that's because of college
or why is it
that you know like three or four of these guys from every draft class really explode and become
incredible but then everyone else kind of just falls through the cracks man i don't know i don't
know i think you know i talked to a lot of different people you know around the league that's
in the league you know coaches and front office people. And I think, to me, the biggest difference of guys that make it
and don't is the work, the work ethic.
You know, some guys show up entitled or for whatever reason they don't feel.
Hey, there's a lot of that, Quentin, in all sports it feels like, right?
Is that because ever since you're a kid you're kind of cradled?
That's the problem.
I'm telling you, like, that separates.
I don't care what your, you know, what your background is or what's going on if you have
the work ethic and you have that desire and that mindset that that okay like i'm here now i'm gonna
do what i gotta do to stay because that's you know i'm saying like that's the real part like
people some people get here they're like ah i made it. I got the money. I got this. I got that.
No, when you make it, that's when
the hardest work starts.
It's like now I'm about to work
so hard that nobody's going to take
this from me. You have to have that type of mentality
that I control this and I'm going to do
from my things that I can control
as far as working hard and showing up being where
I'm supposed to be. Those are some of the little
things that people cripple themselves with. Being late, missing things, not being where I'm supposed to be, like those are some of the little things that people cripple themselves with,
being late, you know what I'm saying, missing things,
not being where you're supposed to be because then that coach get that outlook
on you and sometimes when you get labeled, we know how it is in sports,
you get labeled, that's some of the hardest things to shake.
And some people never recover, like, you know,
it depends on who you get that label from.
If you get that label from somebody who got a high level of respect,
you might be done.
You know what I'm saying?
But I think that's the biggest difference to me.
The guys that really hit are the guys that really work their ass off
and they work hard and they don't stop working.
I enjoy the, you know, whenever the fans and people on Twitter get all upset
about somebody who's been labeled a distraction not getting opportunities.
I assume it happens in the NBA.
In the NFL, it happens.
If you're labeled a distraction by like three, four GMs, they're like, nah, don't.
That spreads like wildfire.
They're like, it's already hard enough to win in the NFL.
We don't need the shit that's coming with whatever this person is.
I assume it's the same thing in the NBA?
100%.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, like it's kind of one of those things.
If somebody don't know, they're going to ask somebody, right?
And when you ask, if you don't like what you're hearing,
it ain't going to be good for you.
And that's just the way it goes.
That can make or break people sometimes.
Like, if they hear that this guy's an asshole in the locker room
or he's not somebody that's cool or not a good teammate
or something like that, and he keeps things going, like, that's not going to's cool or not a good teammate or something like that,
and he keeps things going, like, that's not going to work out well for you.
Well, hey, Quentin, I appreciate you joining us, man.
This has been a cool conversation.
It's been a long time coming, and we appreciate the hell out of you, man.
Who's going to win the NBA this year?
Who's going to win?
Right now, I got to go with Phoenix.
I got to go right now.
Maybe the Celtics.
Celtics stink. I don't know. I know it's St. Patrick's Day. Look, I like the Celtics. Celtics stink. I don't know.
I know it's St. Patrick's Day. Look, I like the Celtics.
My young fella Jason Tatum on there.
I love what he's doing. I'm not
saying they're going to win, but I do wish
them well and I hope they go.
Thank you. Listen to the
Knuckleheads podcast. We will have you on again
hopefully. Yeah, man.
Anytime. I like to kick it. Anytime.
We don't know shit about fuck when it comes to
most of the stuff you're talking about, so we appreciate
your knowledge. Hey, next time
I come back, we bring D-Miles and we'll school
y'all boys and let y'all know how it go down.
Okay. And then, by the way, maybe we get you in the office.
Yeah.
Hey, we Midwest boys.
We ain't scared to come to the nap town.
Listen, tell your friends, too,
that are still in the league. Indiana, great city.
Great city.
Indiana is a great city.
I like Indiana.
I'm straight from Chicago, right next door.
So, you know, I got family in Gary.
Not quite Indianapolis, but, you know, I'm cool with Indiana.
Well, we appreciate you.
You're welcome here anytime.
Thank you for the convo.
Ladies and gentlemen, 13-year NBA vet, host of the knuckleheads podcast quentin richardson
bond miller's deal is only like three years or something right although it's being reported 17
and a half per although it's being reported as a six-year 120 million which is vastly different
than what it actually is yeah aaron ro' contract, five years, $186 million.
Actually, three years, $150 million.
So it's a fascinating way the contracts are being set up.
The New Orleans Saints were able to clear about $100 million in cap space in two and a half weeks without cutting anybody.
Insane.
So that is the tale of the tape whenever we talk about the salary cap going forward.
It means nothing.
They are still in the hunt for deshaun watson allegedly a second
meeting happened last night as deshaun left atlanta went back to the saints to hear what
was going on the atlanta meeting for deshaun watson went fantastic although the cleveland
brown meeting went well as well we are being told that the cleveland browns are out of the running
for deshaun watson in joseph person a man we don't know but ian rapaport does who says he's normally
on his shit he says that the Panthers are
probably out as well. Seems to be a
two-horse race, both from the AFC South for
Deshaun Watson. Now it is in Deshaun Watson's
hands. There are multiple free
agents still available. Jameis Winston
potentially is going to the Indianapolis
Colts. And Kyle Pitts put out a tweet
basically stating, Deshaun Watson's
coming to Atlanta. Deletes that.
Puts up another one to save his ass about Casey Hayward.
Things are going banana lands in NFL free agency.
Kyle Pitts tweeted, it's about to get scary in Atlanta.
Then he deleted it because the entire internet was like, oh shit, Kyle Pitts has the same
agent as Deshaun Watson.
He's alongside Moolah Gaeta.
What does he know that we don't know?
He's down there in Atlanta already. Is he hearing
from not only his agent, his team, but everybody?
Oh, God. We got a new franchise
quarterback, and his name is fucking Deshaun
Watson. He deletes that, then he follows
up and says, you guys need to relax.
I was talking about Casey Hayward,
who the Atlanta Falcons just signed on
a two-year, $6 million
deal or something like that to be a
corner for the Atlanta Falcons.
Now that we've caught you up, we are drinking green beer
live on air watching March Madness.
I have $1,500 on Colorado State.
They are currently down eight when they were up ten
earlier in the game.
It has been a nightmare.
Also have money on Providence, who's only up six all of a sudden.
They were up 15 just moments ago.
Also have money on Memphis.
So with the way this is going,
I will announce to everybody what I'm betting
on in the 2 o'clock hour so you can fade it
and we shall have a
Thursday. Drunk Ty, Iowa plays
the 320. How you feeling? Still feeling
great. Yeah, we need Colorado State
to stop choking stat. In terms
of the other game, that is who a potential
Iowa team would play next.
So, I don't know. We'll see.
This is nightmare
fuel for how the tournament's starting for us.
I thought it was good because I bet on Peter
Kiss who was a lock. That was good.
Great hit. Big money on that
bet too.
This is not a good way to bet.
You should not do this. I'm only doing this because
we have to do a show that's entertaining for people.
I can't care about this unless there's a lot of money on it yeah it's tough for me to care because
i want all these guys to succeed that's right i want all these guys to go on to have very profitable
nba careers i want them all to win i know all the bullshit they're going through as they grow as
humans and men and students and what could be going on off the court on the court it's not easy
being a college human student athlete.
I agree with that.
So college sports, it's always difficult for me to get into a real rooting interest
because I'd like to see everybody have their best day ever
so they can talk about it forever and be the king on the campus for at least a night or two.
But whenever you bet a massive amount of money on it, you can automatically care,
and that's what we did today.
Yeah, and who knew Colorado State even had a basketball team?
Well, Colorado State just dribbled
the ball right out of bounds. Yeah, they're just absolutely
melting in front of our eyes. Unfortunately,
the million dollars
if Colorado State loses will not be
mine either, unfortunately.
Well, you're talking about our bracket bananas.
Hey, Bruce Brown just brought in another green beer.
What?
Shout out to Bruce Brown picking up
the keg last night.
Shout out to Mitt for attempting to tap the keg and spraying green beer literally all over his face like it was out of a movie.
New shoes.
And, yeah, one of his 23 days of Jays.
Yeah.
Obviously, shout out to Mitt.
The thing we haven't talked about today, say Deshaun goes to New Orleans.
Okay.
We already know how Baker feels.
I mean, how are the Falcons and the Browns going to handle their quarterback situation
when their quarterbacks know they're not wanted anymore?
Okay, so Matt Ryan was basically said to be traded by the owner
whenever he fired the coach and the GM just two years ago.
Remember?
Yeah.
Hey, the new GM and the new staff will be able to decide
what the future looks like for Matt Ryan.
Owner said that.
Then Artie Smith gets in there.
New GM gets in there who looks really cool.
Terry Fontenot.
He looks very cool.
Cool name, too, by the way.
Slanchetta, Mr. Fontenot.
Slanchetta.
Slanchetta Fontenot.
And they went in, and I don't know if they attempted to trade Matt Ryan
or looked around at anybody if they'd be interested,
and either everybody said no because it's another 120 million dollars guaranteed or they actually said let's go ahead and stick with
this with the contract going to be tough to move and Matt Ryan has had successful football in the
past so I think Matt Ryan uh grizzled vet already rich oh yeah already rich already getting paid
been there done that I don't think that'll be too difficult for him to handle emotionally now
I might be wrong maybe Matt Ryan is pissed because there was a lot of tweets out there
explaining that guy who dribbled the ball out of bounds
just made a massive layup or down eight.
Here we go, boys.
Here we go, boys.
Should have been an and one.
It should have been an and one,
but it's Michigan obviously in the pockets of these fucking refs.
Greased.
But Baker Mayfield's a different animal, I believe,
because he's not rich.
He is rich.
He's not wealthy.
Hasn't gotten paid.
Played through a lot of injuries last year in pain.
There's been a lot of things said, like what Morton said.
That wasn't a charge.
Oh, it was.
Okay.
That rep on the baseline was fucking swallowing his whistle.
Jeez Louise, he just fucking ran right through him like he's Chris Fuamatu Mafala.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Great reference. Thank you. Great reference.
Thank you.
Fu.
Fuamatu Ma'afala is actually his name, by the way.
Need that to fall.
You fuck.
What a bad shot.
We're taking a mid-range shot down eight.
Guy's got two hands in his face.
Threes or layups.
Exactly.
And we're hoping for threes.
There goes 15, Hodge.
Right dribbling out on this guy's left hand here.
I'm just glad that you agree the Browns are dead.
Yeah, Baker, I think that's going to be tough.
He has to get over it because it's the NFL and you're a professional.
You're going to have to do what you're going to have to do.
Oh, no.
Oh, so contract year.
Here's to the Colorado State.
Thanks for trying.
Thanks for the memories.
It was a fun time when you were up 15 early.
Thank you, Rams.
I heard their campus
is beautiful.
Well,
that's Colorado.
It's not a fucking
Rockies.
Pull up three.
A lot of tears today.
They're not even fouling.
It's over.
That'll do it.
Switch games.
Switch games.
Go to Providence.
Let's get some good...
Oh, this guy's coast to coast.
Not even killing time.
Yeah, yeah.
They gave up five minutes ago.
Colorado State said,
we're not going to foul. We're not going to do anything. Michigan's like, you're right, fucking. Let me get killing time. Yeah, yeah. They gave up five minutes ago. Colorado State said, we're not going to foul.
We're not going to do anything.
Michigan's like, you're right, fucking.
Let me get mine then.
Yeah.
God damn it.
Those tournament points will last with you forever.
You know, when they announce you at some alumni event later,
he scored 200 tournament points.
You know, these layups at the end,
Juwan Howard and the boys are going to try to steal.
Providence back up eight.
That's good.
Here we go, Friars.
Did you play a 50-under on the parlay, too?
Yeah, yep.
Parlay's dead.
We're currently 0-2.
If Memphis goes and Providence goes, you're even.
We're good.
I mean, forget about the juice, but you're even.
I should have cashed out that Colorado State thing when I had a chance for 500 bucks.
That would have been a 33% keep.
Yeah.
We fucked that one up.
Yeah, but they were within four.
Oh, they spent three.
Yeah, they were within three.
Remember, they were spending three.
So much can happen.
Fuck. Slá they spent three. So much can happen. Fuck.
Sláinte, everybody.
Sláinte, everybody.
Sláinte.
Sláinte.
This is March Madness, you know?
Come on.
Here it is.
Come on.
Jesus, these kids can't shoot, huh?
I mean, dude is praying.
Do they have a court?
Do these guys practice?
God damn.
I think the NCAA introduced a new ball for the tournament, too,
so that's always good.
It seems to be a little lighter colored.
Hey, South Dakota State ran an oop from half court earlier,
and they just ran a pick-and-roll one.
I like their style of play.
I didn't know anything about them, obviously,
other than go big, go blue, go Jacks.
Right.
Sure.
But they seem to have a pretty sweet style of play.
Yeah, they're just tossing it up.
They don't care.
I love eating bison burgers.
They haven't lost since, like, December, I believe. Yeah, you know what tossing it up. They don't care. I love eating bison burgers. They haven't lost since like December, I believe.
Yeah, you know what happened?
LeBron James went and visited them.
Ah, showed him the ropes.
Yeah, South Dakota State, I believe,
was 21-0 in conference play.
That's LeBron James.
LeBron's committed to Duke, I believe.
Nah, he wouldn't go to fucking Duke.
LeBron James would never go.
Huggins needs to get to his ass on that fucking farm.
If LeBron James is going to any school,
he's going to West Virginia University.
He should be.
LeBron is not a front-running son of a bitch, all right?
Yeah, LeBron's like, hey, West Virginia's dead.
They're not even getting invited to the little poo-poo tournament.
Fucking let me come back in my goddamn boots,
build some wooden shit, and just get wet up.
Him and Pete Kiss together.
Oh, Peter Kiss, LeBarn James,
and give me this white with the headband
out of South Dakota State.
This kid is a...
Raindrops!
Let's go, dude!
Let's go!
That's a big bucket right there.
Give us that guy too, whoever just drained that.
He's the first one in transition that's made a three. Everybody in transition That's a big bucket right there. Give us that guy too, whoever just drained that.
He's the first one in transition that's made a three.
Everybody in transition just put it through the backboard on their threes.
Good D.
Run him!
Run him out of the gym!
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
That's the same guy.
That's the same guy who hit the three.
Oh, shit!
Oh, no!
Oh, no! Oh, no! Oh, no. Oh, no.
That was a bad series for us.
The MLS Cup.
I mean, we're watching the MLS Cup.
Five points.
This is the MLS Cup.
Whenever you watch the MLS, I actually watched one of the goalies.
Okay, the ball was rolling to him.
Break his foot swinging it off his foot into the goal.
And it was like, like all right so anything can
happen in this particular brand of soccer we don't know what guys could run and just fall on their
face on the breakaways guys could then hit like a 60 yard snipe top check so that can happen upper
90 sorry in uh soccer sports that's what this is right here i just saw a guy in transition three
one of the cleanest things ever gets the ball ball back the next time, dribbling, falls on his
face. Right in the middle of the court.
Has no idea how to run anymore.
Looks like a baby draft
for horse trying to find his legs.
When just two seconds ago, one of the
cleanest, nicest shots of all time.
It's not anarchy, dude.
It's college basketball. Also, I'd like to
see that's being played in Buffalo. I don't know
if that's at the Sabres Arena,
but I don't know if the court might be a little slick.
Don't love that.
Fucking Hawks are playing on that court after this.
So we got guys fucking busting their teeth out on the fast break.
We need to maybe address that before tip of the next game.
So you think this is potentially a facility issue?
It could be.
Not a guy who just drained a sick three then fell on his face mid-dribble.
I don't think so.
I mean, that doesn't make any sense.
But to know maybe the Zamboni was out too late last night.
I mean, it's possible.
This is up in Buffalo?
This is in Buffalo.
Bars closed 4 a.m., 4.30 a.m.
That's their last call.
No shit.
Buffalo bars are open all night long every night, I think.
Whoa.
Real.
That's real talk.
So we're talking slippy track here.
And if they don't replace that thing, then Iowa might be screwed. Yeah, there think. Whoa. Real. That's real talk. So we're talking slippy track here, and if they don't replace that thing,
then Iowa might be screwed.
Yeah, there's a chance.
Well, not just slippy track,
but also the kids could have been out
until fucking 5 a.m. this morning.
You know what I mean?
Depending upon where their hotel was.
We used to go up to Niagara Falls,
the Canadian side,
because we're like 15 years old,
and you only had to be 19
to drink and gamble up there.
We'd go up there,
and we'd meet up with some people from Buffalo.
When the bars were closed in Niagara in Canada,
they're like, oh, we can still get an hour down in Buffalo.
You guys want to go?
It's like, I don't think our fake IDs were that good.
They only say we're 19.
I don't know if we should be crossing the border right now,
hammered drunk going to Buffalo.
But that was always the thing.
I guess Buffalo just like cold as shit, awesome people, great wings,
and we'll drink all fucking night if we have to.
Especially with Bohannon because he's 36 years old.
Easy, dude.
He is pretty old.
Hey, that's a part of his greatness.
It is.
Exactly.
It really is.
He's seven years in college, I believe.
Call him Doc.
Yeah.
Seriously.
They got a casino in Buffalo, too.
He'd probably try that place down.
Yeah.
What's the name of that place?
Frank Moraldo has won a bunch of money in the slots up there.
River?
No.
Finger Lakes?
No. It has a great name.
Salamanca?
No.
That's one of the ones he goes to.
I don't know.
And Buffalo.
Buffalo has a really cool named one.
Great place to vacation.
Buffalo?
Yeah.
That's where Connor goes every year.
Hey, I used to do this.
I mean, I used to vacation in Pittsburgh and Canada.
Niagara Falls, Canada.
So don't.
I don't judge you.
I would go vacation in Pittsburgh in fucking February and March.
It's a great time.
There's no sun.
There's no chance of it.
I'd sleep on terrible couches in shitty apartments because the houses were just.
Playing cheap booze, though.
I would have time of my life.
Oh, this guy's in the NFL?
Oh, yeah.
He's hanging off of that terrible couch.
He's sleeping on my couch.
Yeah, that's him, though.
Yeah, it was.
So I don't judge you at all. No. Buffalo is him though. Yeah, it was, that was like,
so I don't judge you at all.
No, Buffalo's fun.
I mean, all you really need is a casino and good food
and a couple places that are open.
Anywhere can be Vegas.
Exactly.
If you're with the right amount of people
and the right people.
South Dakota State missing,
we like that.
We like them missing free throws.
Huge, huge.
This guy with two different shoes
is something.
Yeah.
Providence.
Is that Al Durham?
Yep.
I think so. Connor, you don't know the shit about fuck. No, Al Durham? I think so.
Connor, you don't know this shit about fuck.
Al Durham, the basketball player.
Is that Bo Durham's brother?
Bull, you mean?
Bo Durham, great movie.
Providence needs to get some place.
Oh, back rim!
Oh my god. Can we get an offensive board too?
What the fuck are you guys standing under there for?
That was a handout.
Oh, no.
South Dakota State.
Go big.
Go blue.
Go.
Hand down.
Hand down.
Remember when Providence was kicking ass?
Remember when?
That seems like a long time ago now that these South Dakota State boys are starting to run.
Joining us now is an NBA insider for Stadium in the Athletic,
an absolute superstar, won the trade deadline news break competition
with Woj Bombs.
Ladies and gentlemen, in front of the show, Providence.
That's a big shot.
Sean Sharania.
Sean!
Yo, Pat, I got a new backdrop,
and also I'm trying to get on your level.
You got scoops after scoops after scoops.
I'm trying to get like you, man.
I want to let you know, that was a very cool text,
because he texted me after the Aaron Rodgers break,
and he was like, hey, let's go.
I'm dabbling in his world there, the genre of his world.
And then after I tweet the Johnny Hecker release,
he sends me a DJ Khaled, another one.
Another one.
I appreciate that love, Shams.
I do, very much.
You had another scoop here.
Steph Curry sprained ligament in his left foot
that was sidelined him indefinitely.
This comes after a loose ball where the celtics i
believe was it the celtics dive smart smart dives after the ball which by the way i just as somebody
that doesn't know a lot about basketball seemed like a pretty standard play got uncomfortable
got awkward steph got hurt steve kerr is pissed how long is this injury is this a pain tolerance
thing what are you hearing about the injury to the foot? So as far as the injury itself, it's going to be indefinitely.
They don't quite know how long it will be, but, Pat, it's going to be multiple weeks.
It could be two, three, four weeks with this injury.
They're going to need to evaluate it, I'm told, over the next several days.
I'm sure he's going to have to continue to get evaluations and specialists and all that on that foot.
But thankfully for him, there's no fracture.
There's no break in that foot. There was definitely fear once Marcus Smart barreled into his foot
that, you know, because he came under it. So there was definitely fears that maybe he fractured it.
Maybe it was a worst case scenario. But thankfully, they got the x-ray back last night.
There's no break, but there is a sprained ligament in that foot and the hope is of course you get him back right before the start of the playoffs ramp him up
and you can have him uh for the playoffs but this is a major blow to the warriors major bowl of the
league but also this is going to be something where the standings are going to be impacted too
the warriors have been battling with memphis for for the second seed third seed all year long could
they fall even further with this injury steph curry has been you know one of the top five six MVP candidates all year tough loss and as far
as the play itself Pat like I think definitely was a standard play I could see why Steve Kerr
was upset and thought it was dangerous to me it's part of the game it's it's super super unfortunate
that Steph's foot was was right there and just so happened to get crumpled.
But it was a standard dive, and unfortunately,
Steph Curry messed his foot up on that play. You might have heard a let's go in the middle of your great answer there.
I want to let you know Providence got a great bucket.
We needed Providence to get that bucket.
You're watching as well.
Okay, thank you.
Steph Curry, I think this kind of stinks for Steph too.
I know it stinks for Steph.
It stinks for the Warriors.
It stinks for the league.
It stinks for the fans. But Steph was the league. It stinks for the fans.
But Steph was all the way back, wasn't it?
I mean, it was like a couple years ago, Steph Curry, Chef Curry,
when he kind of changed the entire game of basketball
and was just putting up fucking shots from everywhere.
The hoop was bigger for Steph, right?
I mean, that was still happening.
Can he still put up shots still?
Is there any thought that he'd lose that?
And do you think he ever loses that?
Well, I think he's going to be able to shoot for
years to come i mean he can play you talk about an nba player that could play up until he's 45
i think steph is the guy because all his whole game is is is shooting threes and so as long as
he doesn't have any type of catastrophic injury that he's a guy that can go up to 45 just the way
he plays and the way he takes care of his body uh but yeah this year there has been a little bit as far as his field goal percentage and three point percentage
he had a hot hot start to the year and then i think once that three point record started to
come into play in december his percentages all started to drop so i don't know if it was something
in his head he you know we had a conversation uh before the all-star break he told me like
he could kind of feel the pressure when it was going on
and he was dealing with the record. And now that the record's behind him, it's been behind him,
I think the hope was that he'd find his stride and get back to that point where he's making 10
threes in a game on any given night. But this injury is obviously going to send him back and
it's definitely going to hurt the Warriors in the short term as well. Not to pivot away from
a different sport,
but whenever you have a record or something happening,
it does consume you, or normally it does.
Marty Baran, former goaltender for the New York Rangers,
had a 13-game win streak.
They asked him about it last night on That's Hockey Talk.
He said it consumed his life.
He was miserable for those 13 games straight.
It was two months straight.
His wife and family hated it because he
was just a different person. They talk
about pitchers who are throwing a perfect game.
Like, hey, don't fucking talk to them. Why don't you talk to
them? Because they've got a lot going on in their head at the moment.
I was very lucky to be a part of
Adam Vinatieri was going on a perfect season.
He had a perfect, there's only been one
other time that this has ever happened. We were in
like week 15 or 16, I think.
We had a perfect season going
uh and that motherfucker you wouldn't even know you wouldn't even like every single day you have
no idea it's like so there's some aliens but then there's some real pressure that happens to a lot
of these high level guys because they respect the history that they're making just as much as
everybody else it's an interesting dynamic mentally let's talk about another guy who could
play till he's 45 zion getting back on the
court happy st patrick's day to me zion's coming back and he's playing is that what we're doing
shams uh yeah i don't i don't know but i don't know about that one um what's this all about this
guy is back in new orleans he's doing you know it's good to see these videos of him you're
handling the basketball and and starting to you know reintegrate himself with the Pelicans.
I don't sense any expectation within that organization, within the Pelicans,
that Zion Williamson will make a return this season.
So the fact that he's just now starting to ramp up,
there's, what, 12, 13, 14 games left in the Pelicans season.
He's got a very, very tight window to come back.
They're looking at a play-in game tight window to come back and you know they're
looking at a play-in game to get into the playoffs right now they're at 10 maybe they could slide to
nine but that's probably the highest they'll get for a play-in seating uh i just have a hard time
believing him missing most of the season then miraculously coming back with a week left i think
just the the the calendar is running up against him right now. And as much as I think Zion Williamson wants to play, the Pelicans have to be very mindful of, listen, you can't ramp him up in this short amount of time.
OK, OK, OK.
I don't sense any expectation.
Oh, so Zion wants to play, the Pelicans don't?
Well, no, I think in a perfect world, I think he would love to ramp up in the next week and play but the world is not
perfect and also for zion winston there's a lot more that he has to do than just be able to ramp
up in a week i mean it's got to go through the normal progressions the last two times when he's
tried to rehab pat he's gone from one on one two on two on two three on three four on four and
remember i came on this show and I said he's practicing later today
on a 5-on-5 and that
day he was ruled out of that 5-on-5
scrimmage. He had his
first of, I believe, two setbacks.
He's
got to go through this progression.
They're running up against the
clock right now. They need to put a bubble around him when they
get to that 5-on-5. Fucking clear the guy.
I mean, let's get this guy.
Lock him in a cage, man.
Just out of the house.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Showdown.
Showdown.
I don't know.
Zion's a pelican.
No crime.
Yeah, he's a pelican.
Let him spread his stock.
Let him fly, Sean.
All right, let him fly.
But when we're talking about that five-on-five,
let's not let him get hurt.
Bubble wrap him.
Yes, there it is.
Maybe you should do slam ball.
Slam ball.
Yes.
But he can't beat no offense or defense.
He stands in the middle.
He might explode those springs out too.
Have you heard anything about slam ball coming back?
John Zerri, have you heard about slam ball coming back?
I mean, listen, I think Zion would be a great player for that.
That's his style, though. He was slam ball ball i think that's why we all like them so much
there's a 300 pound man taking off from the foul line as like a 16 year old going through his legs
and just yamming on people then seems to be like the coolest guy of all time this is a bummer this
is honest this is a bummer shams i would like to is a bummer, Shams. I would like to see this. I know.
I know.
This is the one show.
I'm not going to lie.
You guys have been Zion Williamson through and through.
Thank you. You guys have been there at his lowest.
You guys have been there when he was killing it at Duke and early in New Orleans.
It's unfortunate that this year I've had to be the bearer of a lot of bad news on the show regarding Zion, but hopefully he'll be
able to get healthy. I've been told
he's in great spirits in New Orleans.
He's feeling good.
You hope that you feel good, you look good,
you play good, and his foot
gets good. So the
hope is that he'll be
back to being Zion Williamson in no time.
Hey, look good, feel good, feel good, play good, play
good, pay good, pay good, play good, play good, pay good,
pay good, live good, live good, die good.
Shout out to Prime, by the way.
Deion Sanders, absolute stud.
Watch that documentary that was put together by Dana Beers and Booze and them.
He went through a lot of shit.
Happy he's okay changing the game down there.
But Zion looked good.
I saw him in that turtleneck with the chain with the two dogs.
Yeah, yoked.
Yeah, he looked like he was ready to go.
Maybe the fucking Saints sign him at the Pelicans. That'd be sweet.
Get him over there.
Anything else we need to know about Kyrie and that mandate
from Eric? I love that. Kevin
Durant. Hey, listen up, Eric.
I love everything. I guess
the internet and some people didn't like that on
sports talk shows. I found it to be
hysterical. What the fuck is South Dakota
State doing right now? But what is
going to happen with those mandates, you think, Shams? is that going to change because april 12th to 15th is when
everything needs to be started right it's it's coming up it's coming up pat i think the one
new development obviously kairi went to the game on sunday and the fact that he was there
the nets actually got fined because he came back to locker room at halftime and post game
you know it's it's it's. This guy's on the bus.
He's traveling with the team.
He's in practice with the team, home and on the road.
He's playing road games, but he can't go back to the locker room at Barclays Center.
So the team got fined, and, you know, I think, listen.
That makes sense.
Hey, that makes sense, right?
I mean, I'm in a tank top with this tie on, and I am an absolute sports stooge.
But I think what Kevin Durant was pointing out was very valid.
How does that make sense?
I could see how everybody in this situation is probably fucking pissed off about it, right?
Yeah, but the thing is, I think what makes this so unique, I think even the mayor himself is believing that this rule doesn't make much sense.
Obviously, the PA and also the Nets, they all have been optimistic that this would flip and that things would change.
It hasn't yet. Every mandate has been, as far as the vaccination, has been lifted there.
The mask mandates, indoor schooling has been lifted.
The only one that remains is this
private sector made it which impacts all employees. And so
it's it's difficult, of course.
What is that? Is that made for other companies? They don't like
if you're not vaccinated, you're not allowed to work in the
buildings like in the cubicles in the offices in New York. Is
that why it is something and how can you not separate sports from that district or genre of life?
Yeah, it's city workers.
I mean, it's employees.
It's all private businesses.
The Nets fall into a private business.
And, yeah, I mean, it's one of those rules where it doesn't quite make much sense.
The Nets are part of that.
So this is something that they're going to deal with.
The one new thing that has developed so fast is that— Could has the nuts sell to an entity in delaware oh yeah well you know what i was thinking is is they should have
i mean i wonder early in the year what if they decided we're going to go play our games in new
jersey again this year they would have been under new jersey's restrictions and rule and regulation
so you know that's something to think about because that workplace would have been in new
jersey obviously they can't do that workplace would have been in New Jersey.
Obviously, they can't do that.
They have a lease and agreement, obviously, with Barclays Center.
The fact that this now impacts the Yankees and the Mets, though, I don't know if you guys saw that, but the Yankees and Mets players all are also going to be impacted by this.
And from what I've been told, there are multiple Yankees, high-level Yankees, that are going to be impacted by this private sector mandate.
And so we'll see.
You know, Yankees opening day is April 7th.
I think there's three weeks before that point.
I think there's a lot of time for this mandate to change before the Yankees,
which I believe are the team in baseball, grace the floor.
So, like, city council, because Eric's optimistic that this is going to change.
It's like, well, who's he?
What?
You're the guy, right?
Isn't he?
I don't know enough about government.
You would think city council might not have a lot of Nets fans, right,
because Nets is kind of new to the city.
City council probably has a lot of Yankees fans, right?
Oh, yeah.
A lot of Nets fans.
Oh, yeah.
By the way.
You can't mess with the Yankees.
Like, you can't mess with the Yankees in New York.
But we'll see.
We'll see.
They will not get reelected if Aaron Judge is not allowed to hit bombs on opening day.
Goddamn right.
No way.
Garrett Cole can't pitch.
Imagine Aaron Judge.
I mean, I didn't even think about this.
There's 90 home games in baseball. Like, imagine if you bar the top players on the Yankees from playing 90 games.
Like, that's just unfathomable to me.
Hey, we were sitting in an area at that thing.
It was like $10,000 a ticket.
The people that are sitting in there, you think they're going to be pumped
that they just bought season tickets in there
and they can't even see the fucking big baseball whacker guys because of that?
No way.
That'll get changed, dude.
It better.
It has to.
Hey, shout out to the Yankees.
We don't know if Aaron Judge is vaccinated or not.
I will say this.
You know, Pat, there are doctors, there are scientists that are on Eric Adams' staff.
He's got to confer with them daily.
Of course.
Once it gets to the point where there are the numbers, everything can get backed up,
I think you'll see the mandate get lifted.
I think Eric Adams even said yesterday, the goal is to peel it back he's got to just hear the word from his doctors and the scientists oh yeah it's not the yankees
fans i'm fucking doing i'm sorry no no it's not that's not as easy that you're ignoring
research and education and knowledge and information and that's what you're doing
right now you're acting like none of that matter why don't you wake up because the guy's fucking
playing baseball outside and it's a contract you're letting right now. You're acting like none of that matters. Why don't you wake up? Because the guy's fucking playing baseball outside, and it's a contract year.
Let him fucking play.
Well, listen.
I understand what you're saying, but that's why there's adults in charge.
Maybe if he would have gotten fucking vaccinated.
Yeah, that's right.
Hey, tell him to wear a fucking mask.
We don't know that he's not.
All right.
Now, listen.
We don't know if he's not.
We actually had this conversation about that situation.
This is a different sport, and we're wasting your time right now.
But we're boozing, and it's March Madness.
We apologize.
But what if Aaron Judge was just trolling?
They're like, you know, with this mandate, blah, blah, blah.
So I know it's a personal question, but are you vaccinated or not?
And he was like, nah, I'm going to go out there, and I'm just going to see what happens.
Because everybody immediately was like, oh, this son of a bitch is a vaccine.
But Kyrie said the same thing.
I mean, everyone, you know, the Nets said the same thing that the Yankees said.
Like, we're going to work with City Hall. We'll figure this out and the nets have gone all year without kairi
playing and now the yankees their president randy levine uh he came out the other day said we're
gonna work with city hall and come up with a solution well the only solution here is the
private sector mandate being lifted otherwise these guys you know whoever is unvaccinated on
this team will not be able to play come opening day on April 7th.
I mean, that's a Yankee city, I assume.
So it's just –
No assumption, it is.
It's tough for me to see a scenario where the Yankees are starting their season
and, you know, whoever is unvaccinated, Aaron Judge or whoever,
isn't in the lineup.
Yeah, we don't know if – we don't want to – HIPAA, you know.
Yeah, true.
Yeah, Sean, why does Kevin Durant hate your guts?
Because he dunked in Philadelphia and then he basically stared right at you.
Told you to go to hell.
Hey, to your credit, though, you look like a G in that thing.
You were right back at him, you know what I mean?
I plead the fifth on that one.
I just kept, you know, stoic faces at all times.
Anything that happens around me, I stay composed, calm, cool, collected.
Did he stare at you?
Was he staring at you directly?
I can't confirm nor deny that.
Yeah, he was.
I mean, look at that.
And I think that's Grady, Michael Grady, formerly of Indiana.
Incredible voice.
He's now, I believe, a commentator.
Can we give Michael Grady a shout out?
When I first met him in Indiana, that's your guy.
He was doing public address.
Now he's doing like play-by-play some nights.
And dude.
He's doing sidelines some nights.
I saw him actually at the game.
I told him pregame.
I'm like, yo, your range is ridiculous.
His pipes, by the way.
He has some of the best pipes.
And he and I were tight.
We used to hang out before he went over to New York.
He's a good dude. I'm a big fan of Grady. i'm happy to see him having success but let's get back to this
kevin ray fucking hate you what did you do what'd you do what'd you do oh man i plead the fifth i
plead the fifth pat i got nothing on this man and when you saw that guy to your left right there
were you like oh shit this guy's got covet he's the only one wearing a mask did you think that
did you say anything?
I'm not going to lie. I was there.
There weren't many masks
in the arena.
That guy, though, he's safer.
Shout out Michael Grady.
Shout out Michael Grady.
Shout out to you too, Shams. We appreciate
the hell out of you, man. Congrats on a hell of an
NBA season. I'm sure you're going to finish
it out. Do you watch college ball at all or no?
Yeah, I mean, I'm watching this
Baylor game now.
Baylor-Norfolk State. So yeah, I'll be watching.
I tune in March Madness. Let's get it.
I fill that one bracket.
Did you enter our bracket?
I'm a Loyola Chicago guy.
Class of 2017.
Have you ever met Sister Jean?
Have you ever met her?
I have.
I mean, she was literally, when I was in school,
she was in some of the main rooms, dorm rooms and halls.
2017.
And to see her rise to fame has been amazing.
What are you, 23 years old?
How old are you?
I'm like 45 in basketball years.
So that's all.
Sean's a child, dude.
You're going to get paid so much money.
Let's go, dude.
In college in 2017, just doing your thing, walking around seeing Sister Jean.
Did you say, like, what's up?
I'm trying to have two scoops in two weeks like Pat right now.
That's for lunch.
Okay.
Let me do my thing, man.
Dude, what is the next big scoop?
No more trades, right?
So it's all injury?
Is that what it is?
Or like future decisions of franchises?
What is the scoop season now?
Well, I mean, it's just monitoring the season going into playoffs,
and then you'll have coaches.
We'll see which coaches stick going into after the season.
It'll be very interesting to see who gets fired, who gets let go.
I mean, it's the same thing in all the sports, right?
Once the NFL season ends, you get coaches that get fired, get let go,
for an office's turnover.
So just stay on top of, you know, what's going on there as well.
Why don't you dabble in, like, football free?
You know, if I get anything, I'll send it over to you
so you can just kind of drop in.
You know what I mean?
Like you do on the draft.
I thought you were going to give me, you know, I know you got some ins.
I'll just wait on you.
How about that?
Could you imagine if, you know, the one breaking news we did have,
we're just like, you know what, Shams?
Go ahead and fucking rattle.
There you go, Shams.
That would be wild.
That would be wild.
He'll break James to the Colts.
I'm working.
There you go.
Is there a chance you know what the Saints are going to do?
Same ownership, right?
That's a question for Rap Sheet.
But what I will say, I mean, it sounds like, you know,
them and the Falcons are very involved.
Yes, we know.
You're not breaking any of this stuff.
Hey, in your basketball community, Atlanta, New Orleans.
I didn't know this. I didn't know this.
I did not know this.
So I just learned this this morning.
So do you look at what you –
It's news.
Will you follow that at all or no?
No, I'll be honest.
I mean, I'll see it when it breaks.
But you won't track that at all or try to find out?
No, no, no.
But you know what?
I kind of want to now, so I don't know.
How about thehaun?
That might be them calling you.
That might be it.
This might be it.
All right, $50,000 if you find out what Deshaun Watson's doing before anybody else.
Let him go.
Ladies and gentlemen, Deshaun Serrano.
Deshaun!
Tom Pellicero has some breaking news about Baker Mayfield.
The Arrow, Tom Pellicero tweeting, QB Baker Mayfield. The Arrow, Tom Palacero, tweeting,
QB Baker Mayfield has requested a trade per sources.
Cleveland has been hoping to move forward
after its Deshaun Watson pursuit
and offered to fly to Texas to meet with Baker Mayfield.
But from the QB's perspective,
the bridge is burned,
and it's time to move on now.
Baker said,
Did you read my notes section that I screenshotted and put out there?
You can fuck off.
Alright, I'm going into my contract year. I played
injured for you last year. Now you're
out and about putting pitch decks together
for Deshaun Watson. I assume that's what
the Browns are going to do for Baker Mayfield to let
him know why they're looking into Deshaun Watson
who would have been a more expensive option
than Baker Mayfield and
Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield.
Baker says, I don't want to hear it.
Then the Chris Mortensen report about what he's hearing.
And he's a guy who's been around the NFL for a long time, so he has great sources.
He said that the Cleveland Browns, although it might have been loved how emotional he was as a leader in Oklahoma,
in Cleveland they were looking for somebody more mature or something like that.
As a leader, an adult or something.
I mean, all these conversations and anonymous sources and hearsay
and who knows what's real and what isn't.
All we do know now is Baker Mayfield said, I ain't fucking coming back.
No way.
And it feels like the Colts are still a primed option for him, honestly.
I mean, aside from maybe Seattle, but they got Drew Locke.
My concern would be Seattle with Baker.
Really?
Because they were interested in Drew Locke, right?
They said they liked Drew Locke, what they saw in him in 2019.
They're big fans of.
He was a part of the trade for Russell Wilson.
Everybody thought they were going to be in the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes.
Allegedly, per reports, they were not at all.
No.
Not even in the conversation.
So maybe Baker Mayfield to the Seattle Seahawks.
I have no idea.
Put him on the jersey right there at the conversation. So maybe Baker Mayfield to the Seattle Seahawks. I have no idea. Put him on the jersey right there at the bottom.
This franchise.
Oh, come on.
This guy.
Is that with the Browns?
That's true.
He won them a playoff game.
Yeah, he won a playoff game, though.
Congrats.
That thing was until they won a playoff game, right?
Yeah.
It does reset.
Not in my fucking world.
Oh, you're saying it's still the Super Bowl.
I mean, do you still think? Yeah. It does reset. Not in my fucking world. Oh, you're saying it's still the only Super Bowl. I mean, do you still think?
Yeah.
Oh, Jesus.
Well, Tony doesn't want to
either account for that
playoff game either.
Right.
Doesn't matter, dude.
Cleveland should be thanking
these guys.
Against the Steelers.
Thanking?
They should be.
He won the playoff game.
Mike Rupp, you know, Rupp-er,
host of That's Hockey Talk,
Stanley Cup champion,
proud Cleveland-ed.
Oh, yeah.
Cleveland-ed?
Yeah.
Clevelandian? It's Duran. Clevelander. Clevelander. Proud Cleveland-ed. Oh, yeah. Cleveland-ed? Yeah. Cleveland-ian? It's Duran. Cleveland-er.
Cleveland-er.
Proud. Guardian.
Yeah.
Proud guardian. That's right.
Of the city of Cleveland.
As a Cleveland-er.
He said he liked Baker Mayfield. He'll miss Baker
Mayfield. Baker Mayfield brought swag to
Cleveland and he was pumped up about it.
There's loud noises being made in the back.
So there's some people that are going to miss Baker,
but he'll be the next quarterback for the Cleveland Browns.
There was a big damn it from Zito in the back.
Massive eyes from drunk digs here on this St. Patrick's Day.
Ari Mirov is reporting Allen Robinson to the Rams.
Per the Schultz report, firepower for the champs.
Wow.
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Yeah.
The Schultz report has put us into quite a fire before Ari Mirov though,
a man who just accrues information about the NFL all day,
every day would double check,
triple check this.
I'm not saying Schultz is wrong.
Often. He probably isn't. day would double check, triple check this. I'm not saying Schultz is wrong often.
He probably isn't.
I just remember a dance we did with the report where we ended up in the fucking jackpot with somebody because it wasn't accurate.
With that being said, Tom Palacero also reporting it.
Allen Robinson to the Rams per source.
Okay, so maybe he thought he was going to come to the Colts.
Turns out he is not.
He's going to the Matthew Stafford pass-happy offense of the Los Angeles Rams,
the Super Bowl champs.
Odell Beckham Jr., still a free agent.
Yeah.
Cooper Kopp, still on their team.
Yeah.
Allen Robinson, now on their team.
I would assume Sean McVay is like, if Odell comes back or not,
we're in a pretty good spot with how their offense is set up.
Which, I mean, after the torn ACL, he's probably not in a rush to get back.
Like, he seems like a guy that would probably sign later on just because.
Who, Allen Robinson or Odell?
Oh, Odell Beckham.
Yeah, Odell will probably have options, especially with how he was playing.
Another ACL is very sad.
We hope he comes back healthy.
The money has now been reported.
Three-year, $46.5 million deal.
That includes $30.7 million fully guaranteed per source. So three-year, $46.5 million deal that includes $30.7 million fully guaranteed per source.
So three-year, $31 million deal.
The deal was negotiated by agents
B. Parker of VaynerSports and Roosevelt Barnes.
Wow.
Who is Tom Pellis' source?
Gary.
Let's not forget Robert Woods also will be back on that water scene.
Yeah, he was injured the day that Odell Beckham Jr. landed in the Rams location.
Okay, good for the Rams getting out there.
They lose Von Miller, which is obviously massive.
That's a big deal.
He signs with the Buffalo Bills last night.
But Stafford's back.
McVay's back.
He turned down, what, $20 million at Amazon?
Yeah.
Andrew Whitworth retired.
They'll probably have to address that somehow.
Colts couldn't afford that.
Who?
The three-year starity.
Colts couldn't afford that.
Why is everybody asking these very logical questions?
Because they're at the top.
I mean, I think New England could afford that,
and they only have $50 million in cash.
Anybody can afford it because the salary cap's fake.
Exactly.
Well, there's also, I mean, if you're a receiver,
go play with Matt Stafford, go play with Sam Elling salary cap is fake. Exactly. Well, there's also, if you're a receiver, go play with Matt Stafford.
Go play with Sam Ellinger.
True.
Or Baker Mayfield.
Or Baker Mayfield.
Excuse me.
I love Baker's swag and moxie, which takes me back to what Rob was saying.
Baker brought a little swag and moxie to Cleveland for the first time.
Won a playoff game.
They've been looking for that for a long time.
How will the football gods view this?
Because you would think once a quarterback gets there and wins for the first time ever,
now the team much better than the teams have been for a long time as well,
but let's not let that get in the way of quarterback story here.
Quarterback took them to the playoffs, won for the playoffs, brought a little bit of attention, brought some conversation, a little swagger.
He's out of town now.
Maybe.
Maybe they make it up.
Maybe they get back on good terms.
But when you're commanding a trade, I feel like that's all she wrote there.
Back to Tev.
My point was, if you don't get past your rookie contract, you go on the jersey.
Oh, so you're still pushing you're
doing what Ian Rappaport does mm-hmm sure if that makes my point easier well
that's what Ian Rappaport does yeah by the way Ian Rappaport great friend of
the show he was going to a funeral today oh yeah these are jokes fly we shouldn't
have shouldn't have no no you wanted lift the spirits on today and Jude and
Max in the back exactly they were having fun on their iPads. His grandma's funeral. She was 101.
Wow. So she lived a century.
Hell of a life. Yeah.
Sláinte.
I don't have any beer left with Sláinte.
Now, Albert Breer is reporting, talking
about the Baker Mayfield trade. Albert Breer
is reporting that
Cleveland told Mayfield's camp that they will not
accommodate his request.
Whoops.
I want to be traded.
Hey, we don't give a fuck. Fuck off.
How about that?
We'll see you at OTAs, pal.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
That is awesome.
Andrew Barry, okay, who's the general manager over there,
I got a chance to see him when he was like 25, 24 years old.
Quarterback from Harvard, was a part of our scouting department.
Awesome dude. Was
sleeping on people's couches here in Indy whenever I was playing at the Colts. Whenever our first
general, when Bill Polian was sent out after we won 2-14 and Dan Orlovsky won us two games late,
almost got us out of the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. But when we got a new GM and he's getting
interviewed, a lot of us who knew Andrew Barry were like, hey, this incredibly young dude,
this dude is a grinder.
He's smart.
He knows how to talk to people.
It feels like he knows the game very well.
We love him in the building.
We wanted him to be like a general manager at the age of like 27, I think, like 26.
So then he gets the job at Cleveland, and he does his thing.
And I always wondered, like, you know, when I retired and I was going to start this business Jim Mercy told me
well you're going to be able to be a boss you're going to be able to tell somebody that they're
fired and you're going to be able to know that when you fire them you're not just firing them
you're firing their family you're firing their kids you're firing their future but on the flip
side you're also offering an opportunity for a new family and new kids are you going to be able
to make those hard decisions and then he went into something about whether or not he should get a yacht
or a 757 and people are asking him these questions but he said those are hard able to make those hard decisions. And then he went into something about whether or not he should get a yacht or a 757 and people are asking him these questions. But he said, those are hard
decisions to make because there's humans involved in that. I wondered that with Andrew Barry, who I
found to be an incredibly good guy, nice guy. Whenever you become general manager and you're
dealing with people's finances and futures and families, it's not necessarily easy. This is one
of those situations where it's like, all right, this is a decision that a general manager is going to have to make at some point would andrew barry be able
to do it we're standing down right now they're like hey albert breer won't you let everybody
know we don't give a fuck nope what baker mayfield just said he's gonna be at otas and if he's the
best option for quarterback for us congrats you're on a contract year we'll pay you next year play
football and that he gave away all of his leverage too by doing this the other night.
It's like, oh, okay. Well, who cares?
If he's not happy, fuck him. Sorry.
We're not happy with how shitty you've been.
How about they said, we tried to fly down there
and talk to him.
He denied a request
to go chat with him. Then he requested a trade.
What we would have told
him to his face is,
we're not going to trade you now. Sorry. We would have if we would have told him to his face is, we're not going to trade you now.
Sorry.
We would have if we would have got to Sean Watson.
We didn't get him.
We didn't get him.
I don't know if you heard.
We're out.
That was reported by everybody.
So you're our quarterback now.
Put your fucking helmet on.
I contract you to try and make some money?
Yeah, seriously.
And then they got on a private plane,
flew right back to Cleveland and said,
all right, figure it out over there.
That's the business of the NFL. Yeah, seriously. And then they got on a private plane, flew right back to Cleveland, and said, all right, figure it out over there. Yeah.
That's the business of the NFL.
This is what people who played in high school and love the game
don't truly understand.
And I think AJ and I were trying to talk about this
because Baker Mayfield putting that out there,
the immediate response is like, oh, this time they're dead.
This ain't going to work or whatever.
It's like in the NFL, business decisions are made by people,
both players and teams.
Competition happens, and they don't care.
They would be okay with him making himself look bad playing for them
as opposed to being out of a quarterback completely.
It's an interesting dynamic.
I'm not saying that Baker's wrong for doing this.
I'm just saying that this is a very standard thing that happens
with a lot of other positions in the NFL
as opposed to the quarterback position that you don't really hear about.
How will Baker respond?
Will he hold out?
Will he hold in?
Will he just retire?
Or will they get over it and just say, all right, they wanted somebody else.
Now I've got to go earn a big bag either here or somewhere else in my contract.
I just don't think there's that much demand for him either.
I mean, someone probably would have ended up taking him.
But, yeah, he's kind of fucked.
If they weren't going to get Deshaun, there was a very good chance
that he was going to be their quarterback next year.
Shefty did put out a tweet that said
Baker Mayfield just told ESPN it's in the
mutual interest of both sides for us to move on.
Their relationship is too
far gone to mend. It's in the best interest
of both sides to move on.
Now we wait for Andrew Barry's team
to respond. He's going to play.
He's going to play for the Browns.
Hey, just talked to a source of Cleveland.
They said, we don't give a fuck about what Baker Mayfield just told Schefter.
We'll see you at OTAs.
Yeah, exactly.
That's interesting because they have all the leverage.
They have the contract.
They have the money.
They have the fines.
They have the suspensions if you miss things.
They hold his name, his rights.
They're the ones who have to do the dealing.
That's just a part of signing a contract to a team.
Once again, not saying Baker Mayfield is wrong in feeling this way.
We're just saying that this is professional football, and this can happen,
and it does happen at a lot of positions that aren't quarterback on a very regular basis.
Go play your best football.
Get paid somewhere else.
You don't have to resign.
Adam Vinatieri has a couple good stories about he gets maybe a tweet, something,
and he misses some kicks.
While he's in the training room, they have six kickers working out,
trying out, out on the field that he's watching.
It's the greatest of fucking all time, Adam Vinatieri.
And as he's watching, instead of being like,
oh, these motherfuckers won't stick with me when I want to kick, to kick he goes oh none of these motherfuckers are ever going to take my job
that is his exact thought that's adam vinatieri when i watched that happen to the greatest of
all time i was like oh okay so when they start bringing guys in to beat me out instead of getting
sad or upset or taking it personal which you can but that can motivate you to be like none of these
motherfuckers gonna get paid in a job that i'm supposed to have it's just it happens at all linebackers it
happens defensive end secondary corner it happens in all positions the fact that it's happening in
the quarterback position i guess makes it a big deal yeah like baker has no power here unless he
just wants to completely keep going public and once again again, I'm not saying he's wrong. He can feel however he wants to feel.
I'm just talking about reality, which we live in.
I don't think he has much say at all in how this ends up.
No, other than going out and playing well next year.
And it's not like they're in a much worse off position.
Like, yeah, they lose Odell and Jarvis,
but you get Amari Cooper, he's still that running game.
Their line's good.
The ball's kind of in his court.
He doesn't want to be there, obviously.
But if you don't want to be there, then go ball out this year and get the fuck out of it.
Yeah, then what if they were like, oh, yeah, by the way, we are looking to move on.
Not this year, though.
You're getting franchised, actually.
Oh, that'd be awesome.
That'd be awesome.
What does all this say about the Jimmy G's news has gone cold, it feels like.
Yeah.
They're not going to move him.
Certainly, yes.
Or they'll move him in July.
Well, they would have moved him right before the salary cap had been set.
Yeah.
But instead, they just cleared more room.
By doing kiddles and arm sets.
So it feels like he's going to play another year.
Which, why would you get rid of him?
You just went to the NFC Championship.
Adam Schefter has reported that the Los Angeles Rams still have enough money to
re-sign Odell Beckham Jr., which is their hope in Los Angeles.
So Woods, Cooper Cup, Allen Robinson, and Odell Beckham Jr.
might be the weaponry for Matthew Stafford coming off of a Super Bowl season
to defend it once again.
They lose Andrew Whitworth, but aside from that,
they still got the running back.
Cam Akers.
Sonny Michel, I think, was one year.
Aaron Donald's coming back, right?
Or has he not decided yet?
I think he said he was coming back.
Drunk, though.
He said that drunk, right?
Yeah, true.
They should pay him a little more.
They have Van Jefferson at wide receiver as well.
Good for the Rams, dude, being able to figure it out.
They have no picks, though.
Higby? Yeah. They have no picks, though. Higby?
Yeah.
They have no picks.
Who gives a damn?
Can I report what this just, the text screenshot you sent to me, Nick?
Yeah.
Mike Rupp, who won the bat for Baker Mayfield last night on That's Hockey Talk,
said that he loved Baker Mayfield and what he brought to the Browns.
He said, I've been a Browns fan my whole life.
We finally got a good team.
We won a playoff game.
And it was this guy's electricity and moxie that brought us back.
Mike Rupp, proud Clevelander, was super over the top about Baker Mayfield
last night on That's Hockey Talk.
He said he would be devastated if Baker left.
Last night he said. Sorry, Rupps.
Nick Marotto just texted
Mike Rupp and said, sorry, Rupper.
Rupper goes, oh no, what happened?
Nick tells Rupper, Baker requested
a trade. Rupper responds,
he's dead to me.
That's football city.
So that's what's going to happen.
That is what's going to happen.
And now the Baker's team is saying the relationship is far too gone to even try to make this thing right.
I don't think that's going to continue to win over Cleveland fans.
The Cleveland fans that are on his side, him just saying,
no, we ain't going to do it, that's going to be bad.
And the Browns know this.
They have all the control,
and they know that they can potentially PR the hell out of this thing
because they can rely on the fact that we were checking every option to make our team the best team we can be
and the Browns fans are like thank you you know because it wasn't just Baker that brought them
their first playoff game by the way it was this coach this GM right yeah it was this entire
operation that also brought them and they can sit on Deshaun Watson who's a top four quarterback in
the NFL we thought we potentially had a chance.
We had to look into that.
We want Baker Mayfield back because we still think he could be a part of our future.
We're excited to find out.
They can do an entire PR thing on this and make Baker continue to look bad.
Although Baker, I think we all understand as a human,
could potentially feel a little bit upset about how this all has gone.
It's a fascinating situation.
Well,
just,
you also look at like,
I feel like if the situation with Rogers could get repaired and granted,
it's different.
And Rogers is a different player,
but like,
there are no situations where it's like,
Oh,
it's beyond,
it's beyond reproach.
We can't do anything to fix this.
Like that's bullshit.
Is it a hundred degrees in here?
It's pretty hot.
Did you happen to see the other text that was sent from Jeremy Fowler?
Yeah.
It was the same thing we talked about on Tuesday.
What did Jeremy Fowler say?
Baker Mayfield has a strong interest
in the Colts' potential destination.
Should he be traded for a run?
He has a good game manager.
It doesn't work like that.
Preferred destination.
I'm told Seahawks have discussed exploring
acquiring Baker Mayfield a quarterback,
says Jocena Anderson.
And Jocena knows her shit.
She does.
She talks to a lot of people.
Seattle.
I hate to say it.
What?
Beautiful Cheesecake Factory.
Ha!
Been there multiple times.
Doesn't sound like Deshaun's making his decision today.
I don't think so.
No.
Baker and Cleveland are only going to continue to heat up.
We're on tomorrow, 11 to 2. YouTube. Baker and Cleveland are only going to continue to heat up.
We're on tomorrow,
11 to 2.
YouTube.com forward slash
the Pat McAfee show.
I got to take off
with Charlotte,
North Carolina.
Beautiful city.
Metal ball.
Charlotte's awesome.
Michael Jordan.
Maybe you'll see Deshaun.
Stick your fist
down that son of a bitch's mouth.
Maybe.
You know.
Knocked out.
Three dudes in the outclass level.
Sorry about that.
Of the Oculus last night.
I had a little allergies in my lungs there for a bit.
I was sprinting 70, 75 stairs with the allergies.
It was like I was training with one of those fucking masks on.
Hell yeah.
Now the lungs are healthy.
Yeah.
Bade mask.
I'm sprinting up
those fucking stairs
like those firemen Olympics
you see.
Hell yeah.
I'm boxing motherfuckers.
Hell yeah.
I'm jumping
in the ring.
I'm flying around.
I feel real good
about what's going on.
Like that?
Tomorrow night
might be a nice order
of knuckle sandwich.
God damn right.
How's that taste?
Maybe a two-piece CTE.
What?
If fucking Austin Theory tries me.
I bet he won't even go.
No, he's a bitch.
Hold on, though.
They said something about repercussions.
Am I walking into a...
What do you mean?
A trap?
Better not be an ambush.
Why?
I ain't worried about no fucking ambush.
You know what you should do? I've been ambush. No, you should do it.
I've been ambushed before.
What should I do, Frank?
Get some tips from Butch about what goes down in a street fight.
Yeah, call Butch.
Listen, I know what goes down in a street fight.
When Seamus Ridge and the boys grew up, they always called that man Butch.
Get him, Butch.
That was his nickname.
You could call, don't mind if I do.
Get some back up from him.
You're right.
I would call fucking Danny Birch.
Yeah.
What about the Rattlesnake?
I don't know if the Rattlesnake's going to be here.
He was on Rich Isaac yesterday.
He was in a bar yesterday, too.
Yeah, I saw that.
It's awesome.
Broken Skull IPAs.
I'll tell you what. If I can follow that up, why?
I'll tell you what.
If I deliver a fucking knuckle sandwich tomorrow,
I'm probably going to have a couple of broken skull IPAs.
Why?
I have to.
What about friendly program?
Brock.
Brock says that shit to deal with.
Oh, okay.
Because he might be getting ambushed too.
Oh, yeah.
You two should tag team then.
By Big Kev.
You stand back to back.
You can't get ambushed.
Don't mind if I do.
Knuckle sandwiches.
He's got another beer delivered?
He's had a few, yeah.
Happy St. Patrick's Day, everybody.
PMS.
Hashtag PMS St. Patrick.
Go ahead and tweet your best toast.
ST or SAINT?
Just ST.
Okay.
It's not P2X real.
Yeah.
Just one.
Hashtag PMSSTPADDYS.
Oh, okay.
Nice.
See that Yeah
The way it should be
Paddy's
Paddy's
Richmond guys
That guy's a weapon
They won
Did they
Are you
Fucking kidding me
Burton's a weapon
I don't know why
He's playing at Richmond
But the Richmond whites
Like it
In the crowd
He's a good player
He is a good player
Look at this
Triple deke
This up and under.
Keeps his pivot.
Oh, my.
Got to have your arm
straight up.
You guys are in trouble, dude.
Spiders were a bad draw.
Do you guys get better
in the second half?
Yeah, they'll be fine.
They'll be fine.
The issue is
fucking Coach's son
is deciding that he wants
to shoot it on every
fucking possession
instead of giving it
to the first team
All-American.
So hopefully,
we'll clear that up in half.
Little father-son. Yeah. Little father- uh, we'll clear that up at half. No father,
son.
Yeah.
No father,
son chat.
All right.
Well,
before we deliver knuckle sandwiches tomorrow night,
we're going to live 11 to two hashtag PMS,
S T P A D D Y S.
We'll give away,
uh,
$17,000.
Holy shit. Perfect.
It's pretty big.
Yeah.
It's March 17th.
Yeah.
You got to get a toast.
Now,
at somebody,
say something nice.
Put your cash tag in there
also on Cash App
and the hashtag
PMS St. Paddy's.
So this is supposed to be
a joyful occasion,
a nice occasion.
Tweet something nice
to somebody.
Put your cash tag in there and the hashtag PMSStPatties.
We're about done for the day.
Hammered down, probably be 15, 20 minutes.
Probably going to look a lot like this show,
probably just a watch along.
Sláinte to you all.
You are the best humans on earth.
Bye. See you tomorrow. Thank you. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបូវប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប Thank you. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា Thanks for watching!