The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 621 - Matt Ryan Officially Traded To The Colts, Deshaun Watson Is A Cleveland Brown, Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane, NCAA Tournament Recap With Mark Titus, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 21, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys react to the breaking news that Matt Ryan has officially been traded to the Indianapolis Colts for a 3rd round pick, Deshaun Watson being traded to the Clev...eland Browns for five picks, including 3 first rounders, and all the other moves being made in free agency in the NFL. Joining the program is friend of the progrum, GM of the  Buffalo Bills, Brandon Beane to chat about his offseason moves so far, why he feels the Bills are in a great spot, his thoughts on landing Von Miller, Josh Allen's input on the offense and who they go after, being the team other teams in their division are trying to beat, what they need to do to get over the hump, and more (1:59-33:18). Next, FOX NCAA Basketball Insider, co-host of Titus & Tate, Ohio State legend, Mark Titus joins Pat and AJ to recap what's happened thus far in the NCAA tournament, his thoughts on Coach K's final run, who is ultimately going to win the tournament, and more (37:54-54:39). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people! It is Monday, March 21st, 2022. This sports show begins right now! Can't thank you enough for joining us. It is going to be a glorious day. Obviously, a lot has happened since the last time we were live in this studio. All right, cheer. Big time trade for the Cleveland Browns. Big time stuff happening around the NFL. The Colts have still yet to do anything. Players are on the move.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Life is happening and the toxic table is here. At Ty Schmidt. At Boston Connor. Connor, real quick. Ty, great to see you. Connor, what the fuck's going on with your head? NHL trade deadline today, Pat. It's a massive day for us hockey fans. I'm very juiced about it. You look amazing.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Thank you. You should think about maybe this being your new look. Yeah? As that mullet continues to flow out underneath that thing. And you're always ready to go. You can always strap that thing up. Just in case someone wants to throw down, I'll strap it right back up. You don't even know how to strap it up. No, I do. No, I'll tie it on. I'll be honest right back up. You don't even know how to strap it up. No, I do. No, you're going to tie it up.
Starting point is 00:01:05 No, I'll be honest with you. The earplugs are drilling into my ears right now. NHL trade deadline is today. I guess that means a lot of things are going to happen, like Patty Kane's coming to the Pittsburgh Penguins, allegedly. We'll keep an eye on that. At Tone Diggs is here. Tone Diggs, one half of the hammer.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Dad! Cowboys. Tone will have an entire Tone tournament talk later. Sure. Write down everything that you might have missed over the weekend and the madness that is March. I got a chance to watch a lot of those games. College basketball, definitely not NBA basketball, and thank God for it
Starting point is 00:01:34 because there has been a lot of magic taking place over the last few days. Michigan State, I was promised going to end Coach K's career, get them a plus six and a half. They obviously lose by seven. Don't know how to make a bucket for the last five minutes. That is what's been going on in college basketball. A couple teams have started to sail. Hey, St. Peter's, let's go, Peter.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Doug Eddard's going out there. Calvin Sampson's taking his shirt off in celebration. I mean, Houston's flying. I can't wait to hear what Tone has to say. Joining us now, though, you know, normally we don't start the show this early with such a bang. No. This dude's been opening up the checkbook and saying, hey, you know, normally we don't start the show this early with such a bang. No. This dude's been opening up the checkbook and saying, hey, we're winning the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:02:10 What do we need? Oh, we need a pass rusher. Who are we going to get? Fucking Von Miller. Let's sign him to a 10-year, $700 million deal to bring him into our program. O.J. Hyatt out of Tampa Bay, how you doing? You're a part of our program. OJ hired out of Tampa Bay. How you doing? You're a part of our program. Now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who has built a culture of success in Western New York,
Starting point is 00:02:30 GM of the Buffalo Bills, ladies and gentlemen, Brandon Bean. What's up, dude? Appreciate you having me on. That's a pretty good intro. Hey, well, you deserve it. I love the fact that you are going all in because you know you have a team, you know you have a quarterback, and you know last year, if the overtime rules were a little bit better, you're probably going on a run already. Brandon Bean, hell of an offseason, sir.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Appreciate it. I appreciate it. Hopefully it will pay off this fall. Okay, so let's talk about it. Whenever you stare down an offseason, we had Tom Telesco on uh last week and he chatted about some of the moves khalil mac jc jackson everything like that when you go into the offseason obviously you're heartbroken because of how it ended but you guys were in it when you guys had to make plays you made plays kansas city did the same and the afc i mean you you're calling for realignment it's going to be a fucking monster
Starting point is 00:03:22 for the next 10 years but whenever you look at your team did you say hey we need a pass rusher we need this how do you kind of shape it and what are you still looking for you think yeah i mean uh you got to have a quarterback which which we like the guy that you know that's under center for us but the other thing you got to do pat is you got to get the other guys you know quarterback down and we just uh our pass rush was good last year but from a consistent standpoint against some of the more elusive guys. And, you know, we talked about Mahomes at the end, just a guy, a closer and to have a chance to get a guy like Von Miller. You never know when you're going into free agency, where guys are going to go and where their markets are going to be. And
Starting point is 00:03:59 some guys don't even get there. You know, they just re-sign with their own club. But as we were a couple of days in, you know, his agent reached back out to us to see where we were and said it's going to start heating up. If you want in, jump in. And so that's kind of how it got started. And started in the morning, and by the end of the day, Vaughn had agreed to be a Buffalo Bill.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And, you know, we're pretty excited. Whenever you see – and, by the way, congrats on landing, Vaughn. But whenever you see what the number was going to take, is there a little bit of, oh, shit, or is it anything to make our team better? Let's go ahead and do it. Because it feels like there's fairytale numbers being released for everybody's contract. And we've actually, I think, been a part of making people report contracts
Starting point is 00:04:40 for what they actually are as opposed to the entire thing. Pretty proud of us for that. Pretty proud of us for that, actually. But the overall number was six years, $120 million. Then when you peel it back, it's like a three-year deal or whatever. Did you expect the number to be what it was for Von Miller, or did that kind of catch you off guard? Was there any number that was going to make you say,
Starting point is 00:04:59 no, we can't do that? Yeah, I mean, listen, we knew it was going to be up there. I mean, when you watch the tape, Pat, down the stretch, I mean, he had four sacks in the playoffs for the Rams and was a big part of them holding that trophy up. And that's what we want. Not only the success he's going to bring, you know, himself, you know, his skills, but also we've got some young guys on the D-line. And I just think his presence out there and what he can do behind the scenes, helping teach some of these guys, you know, he's already behind the scenes, helping to teach some of these guys. He's already done some things around the league with some of his rush schools that he's done,
Starting point is 00:05:30 and I think he's going to be great from that standpoint. You knew to pay for pass rushers. I mean, these top guys now, T.J. Watt, I think, got a $28 million a year. The ultimate deal here, it's 17 and a half is the real money. And you talked about it's really what is the money per year on the real money, the guarantee. And that's where we had to get comfortable with. And, again, he's up there, but he's a genetic freak. He's a guy that, you know, you feel like you've seen pass rushers in the past be able to play into their 30s.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And, you know, we feel like Vaughn's still got enough left to really help us get over the top. That closer thing is such a big deal. I was very lucky to play alongside Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney. And if it was fourth quarter and it was fourth down, they needed to play. There was about a 99% chance that Robert Mathis or Freeney is going to get to the quarterback. Like, this is what they are here for.
Starting point is 00:06:26 They want this moment. Vaughn Miller, in the second half of that Super Bowl, I think they had what, six sacks. Vaughn had three of them or whatever. It's like, let's go get this game over with. Is that what you're telling them though? Whenever you're signing them, hey, this is what we need. We need a leader.
Starting point is 00:06:38 We need a closer. We need a guy that wants to go in there. How those conversations go and what are your initial thoughts of Vaughn Miller, the human, now that you got to meet him a little bit? Yeah, I mean, that's exactly. You know, Freeney and Mathis were perfect for having Peyton Manning. I mean, you guys in those teams, you built leads, and then you let those guys pin their ears back.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And I thought it was a well-built team by Bill Polian. And it's a recipe for success. And we're hoping with Josh Allen that we're going to build some leads, and then we've got to close it. We've got to get the other guy's quarterback off the field. And Vaughn came in here. We agreed Wednesday. He came in here Thursday and really took his time.
Starting point is 00:07:18 He was very thoughtful with the process, went through the whole building, met our whole staff, and ultimately it was hard on him. He was very loyal to Denver for his whole career. He didn't have a choice. He's traded to the Rams, and then he kind of built his own brand there in such a short time and relationships with the head coach, Aaron Donald, multiple other players on that team. So he's definitely a loyal, trustworthy guy,
Starting point is 00:07:43 and I think as excited as he was to come here and help us, you know, try to get over the top here in Buffalo, I definitely think it weighed on him, leaving his teammates, especially knowing they had just, you know, won a Super Bowl. But he's been great and looking forward to getting to meet him even more when we get him back next month for, you know, offseason program. Josh Allen's young. Obviously, Josh Allen's young, but he is a very pivotal part of your entire operation.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I remember a couple years ago, before Josh Allen had become the Josh Allen that we've now seen over the last couple years, his first couple years still developing, still becoming the NFL quarterback, Cam Newton was available. And we had you on the show, and we're like, hey, did you ever think about bringing in Cam Newton? You actually said, no, no, no. We want Josh to know that we are building 100% around Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:08:27 We believe in Josh Allen. Hey, that has paid dividends, by the way, with how great he has become. You empowered him. Do you ask him about signings or what he's thinking going into? Like O.J. Howard, you guys brought in an incredibly talented tight end. Do you guys have those conversations with him? Is he too young? Does he not want to be a part of that?
Starting point is 00:08:43 How do you balance that entire thing of respecting his opinion but also not putting too much on him at this young stage of his career? Yeah, I mean, Josh is great. We have conversations more on offensive players than anything, but how he views certain guys, not only as players but in the locker room. What's their leadership level? What are things that maybe I don't see from my seat that a player brings intangibly um i can watch the film or see what he does on game day but have a lot of discussions with josh we probably
Starting point is 00:09:13 talk um sometimes three times a day but uh we talk every week uh you know he'll facetime me from the golf course and uh he was you know i know he was recruiting von miller from the golf course. And he was, you know, I know he was recruiting Von Miller from the golf course last week. Steph Diggs did a great job. And, you know, some others, I think Bruce Smith even reached out to him to talk about this fan base and, you know, what it was like when he played and where it's at now and how bad, you know, this fan base wants a winner. And so it was a lot of people. But Josh is very involved.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I talk to him all the time. I give him a heads up that, you know, we're going to trade for Case Keenum, and we're signing Matt Barkley today. He and Matt are very close friends. So we talk, and, again, Josh is cool. He understands sometimes he may mention a player, and I say for whatever reason we can't do it. But I think he respects that we kind of can shoot the shit and go back and forth,
Starting point is 00:10:04 and this is kind of what we're thinking. Is there any issues that you've heard about this player if it's somebody we're acquiring from another team? Do you think that's because you're young, or do you think it's just how you would operate? Because it makes sense to me that you would want your quarterback, especially somebody that you've invested in for a long time, like, hey, I want to hear your thoughts on this entire thing.
Starting point is 00:10:21 But some places we've learned publicly that it isn't like that. Is that just kind of how you always saw yourself to be a GM or is it because of how much you respect Josh as a human and player? I think it depends on who the quarterback is and it's something that you would want, but is it, are you talking to somebody who you can have private conversations with, trustworthy conversations, whether it's guys in the locker room, guys on another team. And I think Josh has earned that. And we talked about – Josh and I talked about it a lot last year. You know, I called him when we were getting ready to sign Mitchell Trubisky and just said, hey, this is – you know, this is not to compete.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Mitch is looking for a reset. He's going to come in here and be a great teammate. But I wanted him to know that before we, you know, make sure there was nothing I was unaware of between their relationship. Because I didn't even know if they knew each other or not. And smart. But we talked about that. And when we got Josh done last year, that was one of the conversations that Josh, you know, when we get you done to this long term deal, you're going to be a part of it as you've already been and you're going to continue to be. And so I don't really ever want to try to catch him off guard. I try to give him as much heads up some things happen fast but especially
Starting point is 00:11:29 if it's somebody on offense or an offensive coach yeah you guys got like the prototype of quarterback right now that's what everybody's saying six foot six fast can throw the ball he seems like an incredibly cool guy he's locked in long term that's why off the record act like nobody's listening nobody just between us uh you send send Josh Allen to the Colts. We'll give you whatever you want. We doing that? I would trade myself before I trade Josh Allen. I don't know if Ballard's going to agree to that.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I don't know if Ballard's going to agree to that. Let's talk about it. You're going into the draft now. So how do you balance the free agency process? I assume you're not done. Maybe you're done. Free agency is always evolving and everything like that. And then the draft is coming. I assume you're not done. Maybe you're done. Free agency is always evolving and everything like that. And then the draft is coming. How do you balance all that?
Starting point is 00:12:09 And what do you think your team still needs? What do you think will take you guys over the hump? Now, granted, maybe new overtime rules, but what do you think does take your team to the next level? Because I think we all see it. Like your team is exciting to watch. Seems like you got a bunch of dogs. They're underappreciated, zero pro bowlers on the defensive side. Every time we talk to anybody in your building, they love each other. It feels like everybody in there loves each other. You are a team that not only Bill's Mafia is pulling for, but I think everybody is because of how you guys have done this,
Starting point is 00:12:37 patiently building up your culture. What's the next step? What do you think you guys need, especially with Dave's gone now? How do you make the next step, you think? Yeah, I mean, we've got to get over that hump. You know, the Kansas City Chiefs is a team that the last two playoffs have knocked us out. You know, we beat them in the regular season.
Starting point is 00:12:55 But there's some teams in the AFC West that are coming for them as well. So we've just got to win our division. It starts there. You know, we've got to knock this draft out. You know, we're pretty much done with free agency because unless you've got some money in the kitty over there, we're pretty much out. Hey, give us Josh! Give us Josh!
Starting point is 00:13:15 Josh Dandy! We're shopping in the very, very low end of the pool right now, just trying to fill some holes. But our main focus coming up now is going back to pro days, workouts, bringing – you know, we got the 30 visits where we can bring the guys in this year. So looking forward to that process. But it's going to be – all drafts are important, we know that.
Starting point is 00:13:38 But this is going to be a really important one for us, just where we are with the cap. We've got to hit on some of these low-cost guys. What did you see at the combine from this draft class? Allegedly quarterbacks doesn't matter for you guys, but it seems like everybody's fucking fast. It feels like there are so many fast guys. Do you think all these guys, just because how fast they are, are going to hit?
Starting point is 00:13:59 Do you think there's a chance that you have to figure out who and how and what type of player you think fits in with that Bills team best? Yeah, I mean, it's amazing every year you go to the combine and punters are running fast, by the way. Come on, we always have, by the way. No, I'm joking. You have your work cut out for you to beat some of these kids. But no doubt, it's amazing the testing that some of these guys do.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I mean, you know, you really ultimately, you still got to go back to what do they look like on film. I mean, you do see some guys every year that they run 4-3 something. But when you see them on film, they're playing, you know, closer to 4-5 than they are 4-3. But yeah, you know, we would love to add speed. You know, I talked about the Chiefs. They've done a great job of adding speed. There's some other teams, you know, in our conference that we'll have to contend with as well. So speed, but ultimately we're looking for good football players. And I do think it's probably not as deep a draft at quarterback that you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:14:56 but I do think across the board, both lines, I think you can find guys on offensive and defensive line. There's some linebackers. I think there's corner safeties. You know, the whole passing game with the seven-on-seven passing camps, you're seeing more and more receivers and more and more DBs every year just because of where – I mean, you go out to Pop Warner football and they're running the spread.
Starting point is 00:15:18 That's what I'm saying. They're doing this as kids in, like, neighborhoods are running this thing. They got those weird helmets on. They're doing that entire thing. Yeah. No, it's unnerving a little bit because we don't see linemen ever put their hand in the dirt anymore. That's the part I don't like in the trenches. But the skill positions has really helped, even the running backs.
Starting point is 00:15:37 You know, some of these guys you can split them out and they can play a slot receiver for you. I thought you guys were getting a new running back. Oh, no. and play a slot receiver for you. I thought you guys were getting a new running back. Oh, no. Source subject.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Thanks for reopening that. I didn't mean to, but as soon as you said, you know, right, I just couldn't help it. I gave you a softball. I deserved it. Yeah, yeah. And, by the way, you actually giving a human answer at a press conference also, you know, sets that up. But business is fascinating in the way, you actually giving a human answer at a press conference also sets that up. But business is fascinating in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And I think on this show, I try my best to explain to people like, yes, football, Pop Warner, high school, junior high, game. Pick up in the back, game. But when you get to the NFL, it's a game, but it's a monster business. The way things are handled, who can fit in where, salary cap wise, who doesn't get along, who does get along. And sometimes the business, it felt like Randy Gregory was going back to Dallas. He's out. He's going to Denver. Then the next one was you. He was supposed to come up to you and then he goes back to Washington. Then it just happened, I think, over the week. Zedaria Smith was supposed to go to the Ravens. I was going somewhere else. What do you think it is? Is it miscommunication,
Starting point is 00:16:41 you think? Or is it in the details? Why do you think this is happening? Do you see this being a trend or do you hope not, obviously? I hope it's not a trend. I mean, it happens every year. There's a guy or two or, you know, this year, maybe three. I've even actually heard it's not out there. There's another one. It was a smaller level deal that happened over the weekend. Another GM called me just to ask me kind of what had happened in our situation. And so it's frustrating. Unfortunately, it's an unwritten rule, and it is what it is. So there's nothing you can do about it, ultimately, until somebody puts their name on the paper.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And listen, if somebody doesn't want to be here, that's the best thing for them. You just, you know, you got to choose how you do business, Pat. And I choose how I do it. You choose how you do it. And everybody's got their own prerogative, I guess. Yeah, I'm sure you'll forget about that too with that agent, I'm sure. Yeah. It wasn't the agent.
Starting point is 00:17:33 It wasn't. The agent did a great job. It was the other club. The agent did a great job. I'm sure you'll forget about that. I'm sure that'll be something you won't remember. How old are you now, Ben? Yeah, I'm 45.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I get over that shit real quick. Okay, last question from me before the boys have some for you. And we can't thank you enough for joining us, talking to Brandon Bean, general manager of the Buffalo Bills. I asked Tom Telesco this question because he's in the AFC West about preparing for your division. And there's that old story of Charlie Casserly at the Houston Texans getting fired because he drafted Mario Williams instead
Starting point is 00:18:08 of Reggie Bush. And when he was asked why, he said, I'm trying to tackle Peyton Manning. AFC South, I am trying to tackle Peyton Manning. You guys are now the guys of the AFC East. I mean, it's been a long time. The New England Patriots ran it. How do you keep an eye on what's going on around there? Because the Patriots,
Starting point is 00:18:24 they don't have an offense coordinator or a defense coordinator. Bill Belichick's potentially run to all of them. Just found out this weekend that the fullback is no longer a position on the roster for the Patriots. How much do you have to kind of keep up with the rest of the AFC East, and how do you manage that versus building your team to be the best team? Yeah, we always start there, Pat. We really do. We could win the division five years in a row, but that's the goal because that's the entry ticket. It's like this NCAA tournament. You win the conference tournament, you're in. You win your division, you get at least one home game. Because we know if we want to get to where we want to get to ultimately, we've got to win that.
Starting point is 00:19:12 If you don't, now you're playing to get in as a wild card and you run into tiebreakers and sometimes you get left out. So we start there every year, and that'll be the message that Sean will preach to our guys, me as well, that we've got to win those six division games first that count more than anything else. And after that, you know, you're definitely looking, and I mentioned the Chiefs have knocked us out. Obviously, that whole division has gotten quite interesting with Russell Wilson, you know, to Denver. And you mentioned Telesco's done a great job with Khalil Mack and some of these other moves.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I mean, you talked about Freeney and Mathis. He's going to have Bosa and Mack and uh that's gonna be tough let's get fawn miller please let's get fawn miller now whenever you think like mike mcdaniel new to the division but he has a great run game does that go into anything thinking like all right miami's probably gonna up the run game a little bit with bill mac jones is a guy who's very accurate how what will he like is that something you're thinking about? Because they're all planning to beat you, right? Now that you're at the top, they're all trying to scheme on how to beat your team.
Starting point is 00:20:11 That has to be a constant battle of, like, can't overthink it, but also have to worry about it. There's a lot on your fucking table, dude. I don't know how you do it. A couple beers every night. No, in all seriousness, it's, you do, you know, with Miami, new scheme, obviously it comes from Shanahan's system. So we'll, as we, depending on when we play them, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:34 we'll have to kind of figure. But every coach does their own nuances, but I'm sure that'll be the base of that system, you know, run first, that wide zone stuff. So we'll have to do that. The Jets year two under Robert Sala, they had some, you know, run first, that wide zone stuff. So we'll have to do that. The Jets, year two under Robert Sala, they had some, you know, unfortunate injuries in camp last year. I know they lost Carl Lawson, maybe a couple others that really impacted.
Starting point is 00:20:53 And they had a rookie quarterback. You know, he's going to be a lot better this year. And, again, Mack Jones, I thought he had a heck of a rookie season. And year two, he's going to be better, and I'm sure they're going to add more weapons around him between now and the draft. And Belichick's a master. I mean, he's going to be better, and I'm sure they're going to add more weapons around him between now and the draft. Belichick's a master. I mean, he's probably the greatest of all time,
Starting point is 00:21:15 and so that's always going to be a tough one no matter what players or coordinators or whether he's coaching offense or defense, they're going to be a bitch to prepare for. You ever do any business with Belichick or them or never because it's in division? Yeah, we traded him a center one year in camp. We actually did. How'd it go? How'd it go? How'd business go? Was it like kosher there?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Was it all? Yeah, Bill's great. He's always been super nice to me. We haven't dealt that much, but he's always been super nice. Had a couple phone conversations with him last year. I think the world of him. How about when he comes in and talks to Josh after the game? Is that something? Super nice. Had a couple phone conversations with him last year. And, you know, I think the world of him. How about when he comes in and talks to Josh after the game?
Starting point is 00:21:48 Is that something? There's not a lot of people that can do that, by the way. Bill Belichick is probably one of the only that could do that, especially with the division and everything. Him coming in there, though, and Josh being like, it was very nice, it was very cool of him. I assume you all view it that way. You obviously hate the Patriots because you have to beat them. But the guys are fucking, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah. He's earned that right. I think that was pretty cool. I think Josh thought it was cool, and I was good with it. We got Josh under like an eight-year deal, so it's not like he could steal him away. Imagine Bill coming in there with that silver tongue. Listen, we can make all these moves if we have to.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Anyways, whenever you're ready to trade Josh Allen to Indy, we would definitely have that conversation. Talking to Brandon Bean. Go ahead, Ty. brandon one of the first times you came on you told us how when stefan diggs you kind of were made aware that he was unhappy in minnesota and then that led to you guys you know working out a deal and getting him in a situation with like davante adams is i think it was kind of surprising when he actually did go to the raiders is that something you'll kick the tires on, even though you guys might not have been able to afford him or whatever? And do you think more guys, like is this happening more often now
Starting point is 00:22:52 where you're being made aware that these marquee players aren't happy and they might be willing to go somewhere else? Yeah, I mean, we try to, you know, I have a group of pro scouts, and part of their job is to be the GM of certain teams. So if I have, you know, they split them all up and, hey, you're responsible for these five teams, and you're supposed to read up on them every day, know everything that's going on, you're following them on social media,
Starting point is 00:23:17 and to let me know, especially if it's a position of need that we're looking for, you know, we think we could fit them in, you know, they would fit our culture. All the things that are important here, that's part of their job is to let me know. So, yeah, we have those conversations, whether it's Devontae Adams' situation, Diggs a couple years ago. There's many that most of those don't ever come to fruition. Either you're not going to be able to pay them, they're going to cost too much,
Starting point is 00:23:41 or the team's asking for too much draft compensation or a skilled player but uh we talk about them a lot rarely do they ever happen digs just happened to be one that we were able to get to the finish line how are you at poker you pretty good poker player i love poker um you know i i'd like to say i'm decent but you know i don't get to play it much this job gets in the way well that's it feels like you're kind of doing that all the time right because you have Because you're bidding against nobody, right? Like a ghost almost sometimes whenever you're trying to make a trade, but you can't show your ass. You kind of have to do that.
Starting point is 00:24:12 What traits do you think make a better GM in your experience thus far? Not that you're saying you're a finished product or a great GM, but what do you think has made you have success thus far in building the team that you have in Buffalo? Yeah, I think just be a straight shooter. Be authentic. If I'm calling you, you're the GM of another team, and I'm calling you
Starting point is 00:24:30 telling you I've got a second rounder or I'm not cutting this guy no matter what, and then two days later I cut the guy, you're going to be the next time I call you, and that's happened. You said you were never cutting this guy. I offered you a fifth, and you're like, no, I'm not doing it. Sometimes you'll say, well, aren't you
Starting point is 00:24:49 guys going to cut him? No, I would never cut this guy. Then two days later, he's released and you're like, all right. I think just be real, be authentic or hey, I told you I had a second round pick and then again, two or three days later, he's traded for a fifth round pick. It's like, dude, you know what I mean? You told me you had a second. I backed out. Why did you now trade him for a fifth? So I think just be real, be authentic, and don't play it up if you're not in.
Starting point is 00:25:15 If you're really interested, you know, put your cards on the table. If you're not, you know, kind of back off. How about anything that gets made public? Because, for instance, Jimmy G's on the trade block, allegedly, and it's now being publicly reported that they have an offer of two second rounders for Jimmy G. That sounds like a bunch of bullshit if that's getting made public. Am I wrong in thinking that or right in thinking that? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I mean, I don't know. We'll see. I mean, I would assume that they have that if they're making it public, but I mean, I guess we'll find out. When you'll know is when the trade's done. Yeah. How do you know, like, if anybody's leaking any information to reporters? And when information is leaked to reporters,
Starting point is 00:25:58 do you try to use that to your advantage? Do you have to pick through what's real and what isn't real coming from other teams? Because it feels like, I mean, we're in it now more than ever. And I don't think I truly understood the amount of insiders and narratives and who's connected to who. How do you manage all that, both from your side with leaks and also other sides that are coming out? Do you just pick through what's real and what isn't? Yeah, you try and use your sources, whether it's media, whether it's contacts on those teams or people who are connected to those teams. You just try and dig in. It may be checking in with a scout or a coach that you know on that team, just fill out what are they hearing or someone who's connected to
Starting point is 00:26:35 that organization that would truly have the insight. And again, you may check some of your sources media-wise around the league to hey i've always seen you connected to team x uh what what are you hearing about the situation you try to just put the it's a puzzle and you're just trying to uh make it it's very blurry at first and you're trying to you know crystallize it the best you can before you make an educated decision well then if you get screwed over you're just oh this guy's the idiot this dude is an absolute idiot but if they if it ends up working out who gives a damn go ahead tone brandon first and foremost thank you for letting the second best quarterback in the nfl out of your building and to the pittsburgh steelers i
Starting point is 00:27:12 appreciate that very much um but last thank you last week um so like i obviously was tracking everything that colbert was doing and he was at like three or four pro days while the middle of free agency was going on like how do you guys juggle going to these pro days and weigh how much those are worth versus tracking what's going on in free agency and stuff like that yeah i mean if i'm going to be active you know we were fairly active last week then then i'm here if it's uh at this point i can get out to some pro days as i said earlier we're looking for spare change in the back of the couch right now I could do that remotely you know whatever school or you know or sometimes a private workout we may have here or there so yeah it's to me if you're not if you're not going to do much business you know once you kind of know those those things are done you can you can hit the pro days
Starting point is 00:28:01 it's it really is whatever GM you know some GMs don't go to pro days. They're just like, I'm in the building, you know, 365, whatever it is. I kind of try to mix it up in the fall, going to games, and then at this time take care of, you know, the first few days of free agency and then get out. If you show up, though, it's a big deal. General manager, Brandon Bean, you know what I mean? That's a real thing.
Starting point is 00:28:26 They're reporting like at Kenny Pickett's or like Mike Tomlin and Matt Ruhle are the only two head coaches here. We see no general manager. Like as soon as you show up, it legitimizes that pro day. And you might be there, I'm here for the punter. When you go to a pro day though, it means there's something, right? You're not just wasting your time going to any pro days. No, I like somebody there.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Now, anytime there's a quarterback that's going to be a marquee player, they'll list generally head coaches, GMs, or a consensus top five, top ten pick. Hey, there's six GMs here today at Alabama or wherever it is. You definitely get labeled in there. I've been to some where they don't, but for the most part, it's going to be out there that Bill's GM is here at whatever
Starting point is 00:29:12 it is. Yeah, because the school wants that out there too. Every player does too. Brandon Bean's here. Brandon Bean's here like somebody who actually his sister lives in town. I never get that follow-up. Stop by for 30 minutes and say hi. Hey, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Actually, my old teammate is here anyways. Yeah, but he was here, I guess. Last question. We can't thank you enough, man. You've killed for us every time you come on here. You were awesome. In the same way you've been great as a GM, you're great on this show. Very transparent.
Starting point is 00:29:38 We appreciate that. Now to New England Patriot fan, Boston Potter. Yeah, as Pat just said, I'm a Patriots fan, Brandon. You said Bill Belichick is probably the greatest coach of all time. He is. And let's also say he's probably the greatest GM of all time. But now that we know that the salary cap is completely fake, when you see what the Rams did last year,
Starting point is 00:29:57 and they kind of said fuck dumb picks essentially, does that change your philosophy at all? And during the season, could you see yourself kind of, you know, instead of building through the draft next year or even this year making a couple moves to get you over that hump well we're trying to make that now and you know fortunately we didn't have to trade any picks so uh as i said earlier we still have some holes to fill and we're gonna have to develop you know these signings even you know the cap is real in the sense that you're you know von miller's numbers counting a little over five on our cap this real in the sense that you're you know von miller's numbers
Starting point is 00:30:25 counting a little over five on our cap this year where we know what we're paying him so it's going to build up over time so hopefully we can land some draft picks that will fill those roles so it's still uh important for us to draft so i don't you know i think what the rams did last year was they kind of gave denver a pick for the player and then they gave him a pick to eat $9 million. So he was basically playing on a minimum price for them. That's why they were able to fit it in their cap. Some teams do that, but to me, those draft picks are – not saying I wouldn't do it. It's just you'd have to really know that this guy is going to put you
Starting point is 00:31:01 over the hump to do it. And it worked great for the Rams. You've got to give Kevin – I mean, Les Snead a lot of credit. Yeah, they won a Super Bowl. I mean, you won a Super Bowl, nothing else matters, I think, in this particular business. True. But the culture and the patience that you guys have had,
Starting point is 00:31:14 the fact that you went out and signed Von Miller to big money and O.J. Howard, I think that in and of itself is an indication that you would be willing to go and get it if you have to at this point. Is that because you recognize the team you have and the opportunity you have? And also, our point of the salary cap being a bunch of bullshit, is that how you view it as well? Knowing that you have to get to a number, you said you know you're going to have to pay them down the road,
Starting point is 00:31:33 but this salary cap might be, hey, if Apple gets, imagine if Apple gets in the game, Google gets in the game, Amazon's already in the game. I'm telling you from my perspective, I don't know if you know this, a lot of fucking money over here. These platforms and sportsbooks, a lot of money. I think it's only going to go up. Do you know that? And do you have to act on that accordingly? Or do you try not to screw yourself down the road? How do you balance like what you need now versus, okay, this might bite us in two,
Starting point is 00:31:59 three years? Yeah, it's hard. I mean, you try and as you restructure some of these deals, not put it all in one year. We tried to put a little bit, you know, next year if we're kicking it down, maybe a little bit in 24, a little bit in 25. So all of a sudden you don't walk into the next free agency or two free agencies from now and you're $100 million over the cap, you know, which can happen. You know, we're trying to balance it, Pat, like keeping up with, you know, what the new deals of the league are going to be where's that revenue going to go and what will that do to the cap right now we're still kind of working our way back from covid because even though it's it went up this year and it's at 208 it was supposed to be in the 220s you know by now so we're we're still behind and that's still i think that's why you got a lot of restructures that are still happening around the league.
Starting point is 00:32:48 But hopefully in two or three years, Google, Apple, all these things that you're talking about, hopefully they jump on board and let's make this cap go way up so I can keep spending and buying the rest of it. Brandon, I'd love to see what you would do with a $500 million cap. That would be an amazing thing. Can't wait to watch your team this fall. Can't wait to watch the moves you make during the draft season. And can't wait to see Bills Mafia all the way back.
Starting point is 00:33:09 You're the man, dude. Thank you for your time. Appreciate you. Thanks for having me on. Enjoy it, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, general manager of the Buffalo Bills, Brandon Bean. Hey! We got some news coming out of some of these pro days.
Starting point is 00:33:22 The Carolina Panthers are currently at the University of Pittsburgh's pro day for Kenny Pickett. And the general manager for the Carolina Panthers named Fitterer said, Hey, Pickett, get your fucking ass over here, boy. All right? So Kenny Pickett comes jogging over. And I don't know if that guy's got a southern accent or not. He does.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Carolina, though. Get your fucking little ass over here, boy. So he tosses him an NFL football, and he says, go ahead and grip that fucking ball, boy. Puts his hand around it, and then he says, hey, Ben McAdoo. Hey. Ben. Does that look like fucking Eli or Gino's hands on a fucking football or what? And McAdoo, with his slicked back hair, goes, that's good for me.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Carolina says, thank you for that fucking ball bag. Now go ahead, boy. I'll go get some of that sweet tea. Go get some of that wheat tea we brought. We brought some fucking wheat tea up here. Allegedly that actually happened. Yeah. That is something because Kenny Pickett's hands
Starting point is 00:34:18 measured longer today than they did at the Combine because you remember at the Combine, his hand was eight and a half inches and no nfl quarterback has had below a nine inch uh hand and had success in the nfl ever or something like that so the eight and a half inch hand was a big conversation about whether or not kenny pickett could be an nfl quarterback i like let everybody know i was uh i forget what it was but i was an nfl quarterback that's right. If you can spin it, you can fucking spin it. Now, with that being said, when you're in the pocket and somebody glances you,
Starting point is 00:34:49 you know, how much, you know, how much do you have that ball locked in? I think that's the bigger conversation than the can he throw it. Now, granted, I did see a couple of Kenny Pickett throws, and they were super duper wobbly, which would mean maybe he's still working on his grip or changing because from a different size ball, I can barely throw a college ball. That's why I like this baby Duke so much because it's about as fat as an NFL ball in the middle. So you can actually throw this thing.
Starting point is 00:35:13 College high school balls, I can't throw worth a fuck. I can't because of the size of it. So maybe we just saw some throws that weren't necessarily his A ball. But the hand size, throwing, definitely something. It's everything else about the big beast, like the guy that's joining us right now from an attic in Ohio, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, A.J. Hall. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:35:39 A.J., did you hear what the Carolina Panthers GM said? Get over here, fucking boy. Hold this ball. How do you feel about it? And it was my depiction of why it is a bigger deal than just throwing the ball accurate. I think it's very accurate. People never think about what you said. It's like the secondary stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:56 It's not just gripping the ball to throw it in cold weather or rain or whatever. It's the little things like we've seen Ben Roethlisberger over the years. Dude's hanging all over. You've got to manipulate the pocket, as you like the color commentators like to say now. He's manipulating the pocket, just shuffling around, having some feel. Just get little glancing blows
Starting point is 00:36:13 that you can hold onto the ball when you probably shouldn't. That's a thing. I didn't know every GM has a southern accent, but hey, I'm here for it. I dropped the southern accent in Carolina on Friday. I had to. For my family. For my family. I had to do it.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Manipulating the pocket. I love that some quarterback created that in Keller Commentary to make it look a lot more important than what they were doing. You said, yeah, shuffling around, having some feel. Yeah, just basically being a fucking quarterback. Manipulating the pocket. You hate it so bad, huh? You hate that compliment that isn't deserved.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I think I stole it and used it a few times when I was doing college games. I would use that term is when stadiums started, when guys would score touchdowns with a home team, I would be like, oh, they're manipulating the lights. I love this. When they would flash the lights, you know what they could do now? That got me pumped, and that's when I would steal their turn. Yeah, well, you know, I try not to listen to anybody
Starting point is 00:37:04 because I don't want to pick up anybody's shit but man some stuff is just too damn good you know it's like some stuff i feel like you're doing a disservice to the person if you're not at least doing it you know like the what's are absolutely legendary yeah all in the millions is absolutely legendary those things need to live for sure those things need manipulate in the millions, is absolutely legendary. Those things need to live. For sure. Those things need to manipulate in the pocket. It needs to survive forever. Don't you ever stop using that. You know what I mean? They should feel like that's a compliment too.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Well, I assume that old Tony Romo is a big fan of the show with how much you guys talk him up on here. So I'm sure Tony will continue to let that live. Didn't he sign a 20-year contract? I think it was 10 years 170, right? Yeah. Good for him, though. Good job, Tony.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Good to watch football. That's a blast. Good for him. Joining us now, I believe, is a man that we've been eagerly awaiting his arrival for years. That's right. I believe was supposed to come on the show a couple different times for whatever reason. Didn't work out. Been a fan
Starting point is 00:38:05 from afar. Cannot wait to chat with him now. Host of the Titus and Tate podcast, Fox Sports College Basketball Analyst. Former Ohio State Buckeye legend, Mark Titus.
Starting point is 00:38:23 What's up, boys? How we doing? It's a pleasure to be here. This is, again, I've been a fan of you guys from afar. And I can't believe we've never crossed paths. It finally happened. AJ and I have crossed paths a few times. But we're doing it. Do you go on that cult cruise that goes on down there?
Starting point is 00:38:42 I have not. I've always wanted to. It seems like the most insane thing ever, but I've not been invited. I'm not a Buckeye legend of that ilk yet. I'm not on AJ's level yet. That's fucked up, AJ. AJ controls the list.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I don't control anything. All right. Come next year. Yeah. All right, let's dive into it, man. Speaking of Ohio State, sorry about it. Sorry about it. Sorry about it Let's dive into it, man. Speaking of Ohio State, sorry about it. Sorry about it. Ran into a buzzsaw there. But Mark, what do you think about this year's tournament?
Starting point is 00:39:10 It's been awesome. I think this, you know, March Madness is something that is always talked about as being crazy. Some years, not so much. It's like Shark Week kind of at the beginning, you know, it kind of falls off. This March Madness is fitting the billing, is it not? It has been amazing, Mark. It has been amazing. And part of what makes it amazing is this season was fun for college basketball in that there's no obvious – like last year, the tournament was fun. Last year, I think people were just excited to have a tournament again after 2020 was canceled. But everyone knew Gonzaga and Baylor were the two best teams,
Starting point is 00:39:42 and we were just kind of waiting for the national title, at least those of us that follow the sport. We were just kind of waiting for those two teams to meet up in the title game. This year, that is not the case. I mean, there are teams that are better than others, obviously. That's how the seeding system works. But anything can happen on any given night, and it's been a ton of fun to watch because, like,
Starting point is 00:39:59 Gonzaga and Arizona are the two best teams in this field, and both of them have been pushed to the brink. And last night, Arizona almost loses to TCU. Then you got the 15-seed St. Peter's. That's been a fun story. Yeah, dog, let's go, Etter! You got Coach K being
Starting point is 00:40:16 rammed down our throats at all times. Hey, thanks, Michigan State. Thanks a lot, Michigan State. Oh, man. That a lot, Michigan State. You're close. Oh, man. But, no, so that's what makes it fun is there's a lot of different things you can latch on to. And the Sweet 16 is always awesome because now we take a deep breath and all 16 of these teams convince themselves that they're going to win
Starting point is 00:40:36 the national championship. And that's always a great spot to be in because that's not going to happen. Not all of them are going to win. Mark, going back to Coach K, what do you think of this whole season and his kind of farewell tour? Are people still rooting for Coach K to win it all in his final year? Oh, absolutely not. I'm more interested in your guys' thoughts,
Starting point is 00:40:56 because those of us that are really plugged into college basketball, I mean, the media types, they have to kiss the ring, because Coach K, there's an Illuminati situation at play, and, like, you kind of just have to bend the knee to Coach K. But, like, the people that, like, follow this year-round, oh, my God, it's the most nauseating shit you've ever seen, and we've been over it. So how are you guys, like, as guys that just kind of pop in for March Madness, what is your perception of Coach K, this whole farewell tour? Where do you guys stand with it all?
Starting point is 00:41:27 Okay, so I'm pumped about this. So whenever UNC beat Duke and then they had the, you know, the retirement thing afterwards, I was watching because that was his last, you know, it was his last game at Cameron, of course. The Cameron crazies. What?
Starting point is 00:41:41 From Shishaskyville. What? It was the last time. What? So Krzyzewskiville. What? It was the last time. What? So I watched that whole thing. They did that entire video where they had the drone shooting over Krzyzewskiville, and he was up on a perch, you know, and he called it the greatest arena on earth or whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I was like, man, this is awesome. Was it like that every day? Is that like that every single day of the season? Because I didn't watch any of the season. I saw the beginning where they had that rave almost. Remember, he loves that song. Every time we touch. He goes, I love that song.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I love that song. I love hearing that song. I'm going to miss this. Yeah, I saw that. And then I saw the last game where they lost to UNC. So I haven't really kept up. Has it been that strong the entire time? More or less, yeah. Like every time Coach
Starting point is 00:42:28 K has done anything, they're like, oh my god, that could be the last time we see him do XYZ. And it's been like the Carolina game, North Carolina beating Duke in Coach K's last game in Cameron-Norwich Stadium was the funniest thing I've ever seen. The lead
Starting point is 00:42:44 up to that, this must be why they do it. Cause like guys like you that, that only watch a little bit of college basketball, you know, it probably works on you, but like those of us, again, it was a nice piece of art they put together. I think it works on everybody. Didn't it? I mean, you guys didn't, I mean like it felt like, like, didn't it at no, at any point, Pat, did you, did you stop and think to yourself,
Starting point is 00:43:05 did this man die? Is this like his – are we doing a funeral or are we doing – it wasn't even his last game. It was his last game in Cameron Indoor Stadium, which was like especially insane to me because it was like this isn't even – you know, so no, it has been nauseating. I think like most people that aren't Duke fans that follow the sport closely, if you're not cheering for your team
Starting point is 00:43:25 or if your team's out of the tournament, all eyes are locked on where Duke is at in the bracket and when they're going to bow out, because that's going to be a joyous day for the college basketball community. A joyous day. Hey, who's going to win though, Mark? We see they're down to 16. We have a couple, like, I guess there's multiple teams that are sleepers
Starting point is 00:43:42 that we haven't really heard of anyone on their squad that are becoming stars right now. Do any of those teams have a chance to win it? You're talking like the lower-seeded teams? Peacocks. Oh, yeah. Let's just get right to it. Peacocks.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Get right to it, the Peacocks. Well, I mean, I'm worried that it might be approaching midnight for the Peacocks. Oh, no. Bitch. We just had daylight savings come on daylight savings there you go let's roll the clock back
Starting point is 00:44:09 last time I think what's been fun about St. Peter's is that they don't fit the mold of a usual like last year Oral Roberts goes to the Sweet 16 which like AJ and I have tried to block out of our minds that that whole Oral Roberts goes to the Sweet 16, which AJ and I have tried to block out of our minds that whole Oral Roberts thing.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Oh, yeah, you guys. Yeah. But they were fun and had – not that St. Peter's isn't fun, but they had two dudes that were running circles around everybody. The way St. Peter's is winning is with defense and just being smarter than the other team. It has more of a Cinderella feel to it,
Starting point is 00:44:46 which makes it more fun for me to cheer for. But also it worries me that they're going to go up against a seven foot four giant and Zach Eady and an athletic freak and Jaden Ivey and the sweet 16. And it also worries me that they're going back to campus all week and they're just going to have people kissing their feet and telling them how great they are. And they might forget to practice this week. I really feel like that that's a serious concern with saint peter's really just gonna be closing around too much you think that mustache is gonna be dancing around saint peter's how could
Starting point is 00:45:13 he not by the way i'd be yeah i'd be vibing if i was yeah oh yeah if i was in there uh how come the refs stink what's going on that that personal foul for the dunk or attack or whatever happened for that guy, that was like straight out of the NFL. I don't know if you saw last year the NFL, the refs were the ones who decided if you were too happy or too mad. That became a penalty in the NFL. I enjoyed the fact that now it is the college basketball ref's duty
Starting point is 00:45:40 to decide whether or not a dunk was too disrespectful. What is that all about? How does that become something? I love college basketball more than anything, but there's a serious crisis with officiating in the sport. Hey, it's every sport, dude. Nobody wants to be a fucking ref. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yeah. The problem with college basketball refs is all these dudes, this is their side gig. All these dudes are paralegals and fucking substitute teachers. It don't get better in the nfl it's the same shit same shit insurance sale and i never understood that that this is like we're billion dollar industries we're talking about the guys that are making the calls are uh are doing landscaping on the side as like their real gig and then they just show up on saturdays and they're like i'm gonna try to and they're all like 60 years old and trying to keep up with like 19 year olds that are athletic and and they're just you know they're waddling up and down the floor trying to keep up with these dudes it's it's a serious crisis i don't know how we fix it though
Starting point is 00:46:35 yeah they all have great slick backs oh yeah great hair and that thing tucked in and while they're holding the basketball you know it's always like such a there's such a power pose all the time with these refs it's unbelievable because they're being watched at all times oh yeah and nobody's going to root for them or cheer for them the job stinks like we all understand that but i think that's why you're saying like let's pay them more let's get these people like at least invested a little bit even though their job does suck and they're inevitably going to get booed by somebody. One thing that's interesting about college basketball refs as well that no one really thinks about is the whole reason that there are, when there's a jump ball in the NBA, they toss it up, right?
Starting point is 00:47:13 When there's a jump ball in college, they have the possession arrow. And the whole reason they have the possession arrow, and you talk to like any officials or any powers that be, they'll tell you this is the reason why. It's because they say the refs don't know how to throw jump balls. And so it's like written in the actual rules that the refs suck and they're not good at their job. So we have actual rules that are like, these refs are terrible at this. We have to build rules around it. I don't know. It's awesome. I feel like it's every single sport at the moment. There is some news in the NFL. Jay Glazer is reporting that Matt Ryan is close to finalizing a deal to become the next Indianapolis Colt quarterback.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Wow, Matty! All right, all right. We will get to that, more of that, after this college basketball conversation with Mark Titus. That deal might be closed here in the next couple minutes. This is hashtag JNU happening in real time. Go ahead, Boston Connor. Yeah, Mark, how many NBA guys are in this tournament that you think will go in next year and have an immediate impact?
Starting point is 00:48:19 The kid from Duke, obviously, is unbelievable. He mentioned Jaden Ivey and also the 120-pound freak, Chad Holmgren, as well. Chad Holmgren's up there. I think Benedict Mather in Arizona, he will get a lot of minutes in the NBA the second he steps on an NBA court. He's awesome. Ochai Baji at Kansas. I don't know if you've watched this guy,
Starting point is 00:48:42 but he's the one first-team All-American that's still left in the tournament. Maybe he's the guy to keep an eye on. There's still a handful of guys left. There are guys left, but Chet Holmgren and Paolo Bancaro. Jabari Smith was a guy at Auburn that a lot of people are excited about.
Starting point is 00:49:00 They're out now, so that doesn't answer your question. Chet Holmgren and Paolo and Jay Navi, I think, are the three that about they're out now so uh that doesn't answer your question but um chet homegrown and paulo are and jay navi i think are the three that most people are talking about in nba circles for sure that's what seven two or something yeah yeah 115 yeah he's huge he's got handles too was he like not tall at all as a freshman and then had like he's smooth too like as a big yeah yeah he's he's uh he's one of the weirdest uh and I say that lovingly but like he's one of the weirdest basketball players I've ever seen because I think the comparisons
Starting point is 00:49:30 everyone wants to make is Kevin Durant but he's not he doesn't play like Kevin Durant he's not trying to do anything to Kevin it literally the only reason people say Kevin Durant is because he's a beanpole like Durant um but no he he's he's unbelievable he's a fascinating prospect because he doesn't he he does not fit any sort of mold whatsoever. And I'm curious to see how NBA scouts are going to see it. And his dad still can't report. Oh, yeah, can't report. Every single game, man.
Starting point is 00:49:55 We're going to get that good footage. Go ahead, Ty. Mark, why does the Big Ten fucking choke every single year? You're a Big Ten guy. AJ is. I am. We got a couple more in here. Like, what the fuck's going
Starting point is 00:50:05 on i mean i well so this year i'm gonna make i'm gonna make this excuse this year i don't think the big 10 choked i don't think the big 10 was that good this year like it was never that good i don't think anybody i mean there were no number one seats from the big 10 there were no number two seats from the big 10 so uh i don't really feel like we choked this year i think we just sucked this year you know and there's a difference to me i think last year we choked um but i don't really feel like we choked this year. I think we just sucked this year, you know, and there's a difference to me. I think last year we choked, but I don't know what it is. I mean, I used to make the argument that the Big Ten programs are too clean and that the SEC and the ACC and everyone else was cheating too much
Starting point is 00:50:38 and we couldn't keep up. But I'm running out of excuses. The more this goes on, and now we're in the name image likeness era, so like what is cheating in college sports anyway anymore? I don't know. I don't know what the problem is. Hey, is that what's going on in college basketball? I'll give you a million bucks.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Give you a million bucks. Give you a million bucks. Give you a million bucks. Give you a million bucks. There's a starting five. Here we go. Is that – I mean, that was kind of how it has always worked.
Starting point is 00:51:03 But now it's like a little – it's actually allowed now. So, yeah, I mean, was kind of how it has always worked but now it's like a little it's actually allowed now so yeah I mean that's I was thinking this weekend maybe you know when we retire and we're young we just hire like a good basketball coach and then we just go pay five high school kids to come play for us we're in fucking March Madness could you imagine us as assistant coaches
Starting point is 00:51:21 not knowing a fucking thing about basketball just have a good coaching staff. We're just chilling. We have a team in March Madness. That's literally all it seems like it takes, right? I mean, I don't know business that well. The content that you guys would get out of that, too, would be so amazing. I mean, you do a behind-the-scenes documentary on that season.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I'm watching it. You sell that to HBO. Oh, my God. That's shattering records. Well, I appreciate that. We should think about watching it. You sell that to HBO? Oh, my God. That's shattering records. Well, I appreciate that. We should think about doing it. Something to think about. First chance.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Last question here, Mark. Go ahead, Tiggs. Mark, I've noticed that so far in the tournament, it seems like defense is winning over the offense. Is that normally the case in college? And you think that will continue like Texas Tech? Do they have a chance to win it all because they have the best defense in the nation?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Yeah, so I have a theory about this specifically all because they have the best defense in the nation? Yeah, so I have a theory about this specifically this year. I don't know if you guys have been paying attention, but the ball that they're playing with is extra orange. They have a new ball. Is it rubber? It looks like a rubber outdoor ball. Yeah, it's a rubber. I said this jokingly when the tournament started.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I was like, there's something wrong with the ball because all these teams were bricking everything um and you know that's kind of the joy of college basketball as it as it is anyway that they break open shots but god it's on another level right now and uh the more i've watched the more i'm like oh my god is like the ball lopsided is it is it an outdoor ball like aj said uh so i i really do think that like the defensive minded teams are are at an advantage this year because I like if you watch if you go back and look at the just go look at the box scores of all the the games that happened last night. I think Michigan State was the only team that shot
Starting point is 00:52:55 even kind of well. Everyone was throwing up bricks all game. And I really do believe it's the ball. That's my theory. That's my that's my I'm connecting all the dots so uh as we move forward look for the teams that uh aren't affected by the orange ball the extra orange rubber fucking pumpkin they got out there well by the time by now you think they'd be used to it right but those first couple games you can see how guys may be a little bit off you know oh it feels a little different you know you know if i'm ray allen ray allen that ball is pumped the exact same every single time. It is put in the exact same spot every single time. I'm not saying college kids are like this, but I would assume some already have, you know, at least muscle memory down. If that ball is just a little lighter, a little heavier, a little different shape at all.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I mean, that could fuck you up. I mean, that literally could. No, it could. And no one no one really thinks about this. But college basketball across the country, everybody uses their own ball. So there's no like the NBA and NFL obviously use the exact same ball in every single game. Every college basketball program decides which kind of ball they want to use. So when you're going on the road, you can play with a different kind of ball. You know, you never know what you're going to get. And the NCAA is using a different ball than they've even used in tournaments past. And it's complete chaos. And that adds to it. I mean, it's already a chaotic tournament that you throw that shit in there and you're like, this is amazing.
Starting point is 00:54:11 So nobody's used this ball. Okay. Everybody's using balls. They've never used this one. We can't thank you enough, man. Hopefully you'll continue to join us through March Madness. Good luck with the podcast and on Fox Sports, man. Watching you ascend from the internet to TV has been real cool. Likewise.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Appreciate you guys having me. It's been fun to watch you guys as well. And, yeah, we'll do it again, man. Thanks for having me. At Club Trillion, ladies and gentlemen, Mark Heide. Yeah! All right. It was our first time speaking to him.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I have respect for him. So we continue the conversation. We should have stopped that thing 10 minutes ago. If it was anybody else, we would have. Enjoy that, dude. I appreciate that, dude. We're in the middle of March Madness. Good conversation.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Learned a little bit, a lot there. By the way, the ball thing was under. Let's start thinking some unders in that entire thing. Matt Ryan going to the Indianapolis Colts is all but signed, sealed, and delivered is what's being reported, first by Jay Glazer, now by others tagging in. We are hearing, I can say we are hearing it's for a third rounder. From my sources, hearing it's for a third rounder, but also the bigger conversation is the Indianapolis Colts finally get a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Maybe this will help us get other free agents and build our team. The Atlanta Falcons now are forced to move on from Matt Ryan. Is this all because of how they thought they were going to get Deshaun Watson? And in publicly doing so, they knew and acknowledged that the relationship with Matt Ryan at this stage of his career, probably done. Were they ready to move on from Matt Ryan? Was that supposed to be something that happened last year when a new coach, new GM came in, but they weren't able to move the contract? Is that something they've been hoping for, for a restart with a new entire program being
Starting point is 00:55:56 run out of Mercedes-Benz Stadium? Fascinating move. Fascinating situation. The dead cap hit for the Atlanta Falcons falcons with the way matt ryan's contract was set up will be 40 million dollars oh my god that is the largest in nfl history that is uh more than what carson wentz uh ate up this is the largest dead cap in the history of the nfl it is being reported jesus so who knows how this is panning out and whenever they say the deal is being finalized they mean the deal is being finalized,
Starting point is 00:56:25 do they mean the trade? Is there a contract happening with this Matt Ryan like we just saw with Deshaun Watson going to Cleveland? Does that have to be agreed upon before leaving Atlanta or whenever he gets Indianapolis? Because that would affect everything. Colts finally get a quarterback. AJ, your thoughts, pal? Yeah, Colts get Matt Ryan,
Starting point is 00:56:43 but I'm more interested in what happens with the Atlanta Falcons. They're taking a $40 million cap hit to get rid of their franchise QB that had been there for so long, and you don't have his replacement there to take the spot. Who's going to be the quarterback? Yeah, so you would think that they're maybe in the Malik Willis sweepstakes here. Baker. Is Baker going to go there?
Starting point is 00:57:04 Could. Good, I guess, because he's in purgatory right now. Maybe Jimmy G. Does, what's his name, have any ties to Mariota since they were both in Tennessee? I don't know if they crossed at the same time or not. Artie Smith. I would assume they crossed paths, right?
Starting point is 00:57:17 Because Artie Smith was sleeping on couches in Tennessee at some point. He was there for a long time. So him and Marcus Mariota, maybe. See, now we're starting to piece things together. Great question, AJ. Led to a great conversation here at Last Chance Q. Maybe Jimmy G's on the move.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Maybe Mariota. That would make a lot of sense if you liked him, right? Yeah. And Jimmy G has no trade clause. It's hard to imagine him waiving that to go to Atlanta now that Calvin Ridley's out. And it seems like they're kind of— They get Cordell Patterson back there, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:41 They re-sign Cordell Patterson, who's just an X Factor. And allegedly Jarvis Landry and A.J. Green and Leonard Fournette were all scheduled to go to Atlanta if Deshaun Watson was going to go to Atlanta. They were all on board. So Deshaun Watson goes to Cleveland. Does that mean
Starting point is 00:57:58 they're going to Cleveland? I don't know. Fournette probably not. Fournette was meeting with the New England Patriots. Landry was already there. Came out this weekend. Yeah, I don't know if Landryette probably not. Fournette was meeting with the New England Patriots. Oh, yeah. Landry was already there. Came out this weekend. Yeah, I don't know if Landry's going to go back.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Maybe. Who knows? I don't know how the business ended. Whatever. Business can be mended as well. We saw what happened with Cam Newton and Carolina. Yes. Leonard Fournette's meeting with the New England Patriots.
Starting point is 00:58:19 They also re-signed Trent Brown, and they cut a fullback because, in the fullback's words, the fullback will no longer be a position in the New England Patriots offense. Bill Belichick, an offense coordinator, is going to be fucking awesome, B.J. It's going to be fucking awesome. Yeah, I guess. Wait, was it the fullback or the fullback coach that said this? Fullback. Oh, it was the fullback.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Okay, my bad. When I read it earlier. So, for real, though, what roles is Bill going to have? O coordinator, D coordinator, head coach, GM, what else? Lead counsel. Yeah, lead contract negotiator. That's counsel. Yeah, he is chef on Fridays.
Starting point is 00:58:53 I don't think it's pizza, but it's a super healthy pizza. Cauliflower. Cauliflower crust. How do you feel about the Colts though? So, you know, we are quarterback. Hell yeah. I told you last week, get excited for Matt Ryan, right? We're excited.
Starting point is 00:59:06 You seem to show some excitement. Listen, Phil Rivers got the team to a playoff, to what Diggs was about to say. Matt Ryan can move more than Phil Rivers. Matt can sling it. They're going to be throwing the ball 40, 50 times a game now. Yeah, he can. He can dice it for sure.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Like, yeah, I don't think we're going to be – we don't have any, you know, take the top off type guys. We'll have to find one. Actually, I think Strahan, Michael – Oh, yeah. Strahan. If he's healthy. Strachan.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Strachan. He is a guy. Yeah. He got hurt at Blues ACL. He's a guy, you know, that will be able to take the top off. And maybe Matt Ryan will get to do that because I think the play action is going to be great because we got a guy that's right there in the back, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:43 I think he's like maybe once in a generation type guy back there, you know. And we got an offensive line, although Armstead's not flying to Indy. Teron Armstead, offensive tackle for the New Orleans Saints. Captain, by the way, see on his chest when you see the jersey. He's flying to Miami to potentially go to the Dolphins. And I understand maybe he wants to have fun in the sun, no state income tax in Miami. And, you know, the weather's incredible,
Starting point is 01:00:06 and Mike McDaniel seems like one of the coolest dudes of all time. I get it. But also Colts, hey! We're about to go on a run. We need another tackle. You know what I mean? So even though we don't have a tackle currently on the roster, I don't think, maybe I'm wrong.
Starting point is 01:00:20 And Brandon Bean did say this is a very deep offensive line and defensive line draft. So whatever the case. Anyways, Quentin Nelson, Jonathan Taylor, and Ryan Kelly. That's all we need to know. And that's what we should be doing a lot of. And then when Matt Ryan play action, then he gets to showcase that fucking cannon he has. He's a genius.
Starting point is 01:00:36 He'll get you in the right play call. Oh, yeah. BC guy. Yep. Yeah, Matty Ice coming to town. Hell, yeah. I made a lot of jokes about this last year. He was fucking tough as nails last year.
Starting point is 01:00:47 He got fucking destroyed and just kept getting up, kept playing. He bled a lot last year. Saw a lot of him sliding, too. A lot of him running and sliding. I don't know if he's at the point of his career where he's like, there's been a lot of disrespect on my goddamn name about my athleticism, and now he's flying around. Matt Ryan, welcome to the colts baby
Starting point is 01:01:05 i love watching you talk yourself into it what great to see in real time no no no i think it's a good move the colts got to do something right you got to have a quarterback why not bringing a guy that was an mvp in the nfl not too long ago it's not like he's washed up he can still play so i like that they're at least making the moves you heard heard Tone Diggs anti-Schmidt retweeted what Tone Diggs said. He said, better than Baker Mayfield. I'm not going to even get in that conversation because I don't like living in these what-ifs scenarios. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I don't even like living in what-ifs scenarios. But that was being talked about this morning on the internet. Like, hey, Baker's interested in Indianapolis. Atlanta's still shopping Matt Ryan. Who would you rather? There was actually polls, I think, happening on random Twitter accounts all over the place. Baker, Matt Ryan, Baker, Matt Ryan. And the Colts clicked the Matt Ryan one, I think, because he's definitely more expensive.
Starting point is 01:01:56 He is older, but he has done a lot more, accomplished a lot more. And then Baker Mayfield, where does he land? I guess that'll be TBD, as they say in the biz, dude. Do we know how long Matty Ice is going to be in Indianapolis? Do you think this is a one-year thing, and then if it doesn't go well, then he has an ad in his contract? We've had five quarterbacks in five years. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Do you really want to do this again? Well, he's young, so you won't have to. Time. Enough. You just signed Trubisky for one year, X million. You need to stop. Okay? Jeez Louise.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Two years? By the way, I don't know if I mentioned it, but Mitch does have a better NFL record than Deshaun Watson. Just throwing that out there. Wow. Just going back to that trade. I mean, one's happening right now. If we could take a trip back, though.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Take a trip back. Foxy reminded me, too. Mitch did get to play the Lions, what, eight times? Eight times, yeah. And killed them. And the Lions should have won all those games. So what are we talking about? Well, listen.
Starting point is 01:02:52 2017. Whenever you're talking about, you know, Deshaun Watson, a football player. Okay. I mean, that was used in Texas. They were on fire. That was back before we learned anything about the, learned anything about everything that was going on down there. There was zero stability. He was balling out down there.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Kicked in the face in a playoff game. Oh, my God. I remember that. How do you feel about that? Cleveland people happy, not happy? I saw there was a sign outside of Stefanski. Obviously, that whole civil suit thing will be played out publicly as well, so we'll get an answer for all of this.
Starting point is 01:03:25 But as a football team, I mean, what a play. What a move to get him on their team. I think people are, or at least the people that I've run into, and I'm around a lot of Cleveland fans, some of them are super juiced, like, yes, here we go, we're ready, we have the roster, now we have the quarterback, and then some people are torn. Well, I don't know how how i feel because like the whole situation i'm not sure exactly what he did and how it's how it's going and the allegations but i'm happy that we have a chance to be you know
Starting point is 01:03:53 having elite quarterback and a lot of people too have said like i don't know why we had to pay him so much money right away i've heard different fans tell me that as well like i don't know i guess that's the going people in in Ohio. We had 200 fucking. Fully guaranteed. That's a lot of money in it. That's more than anybody's ever got. Ohio people. What do you think Atlanta was offering?
Starting point is 01:04:13 That's what, yeah. Literally led off the show because people obviously aren't happy about having 22 allegations that seriously are now into a civil situation after the criminal one was not indicted. I don't think I understand the law enough, by theicted. I don't think I understand the law enough, by the way. I don't think I understand the terms. Went to a grand jury to see if he would be indicted. Is that accurate? Does anybody know? Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:32 For a criminal case. So the grand jury is what? Group of people? Just people. There's no judge. Just people. People that hate ham sandwiches. Well, yeah, because we were told that they would indict a ham sandwich if they could
Starting point is 01:04:45 so i think what how the nfl viewed it if the grand jury didn't indict him and they got to hear a lot more than i think all of us have now granted none of that gets made public i think in the grand jury the way it's set it up so he doesn't get indicted in that i think the nfl viewed it as they know more than anybody they're the literally the law said this and it was oh so people were alarmed about how much Cleveland is paying Atlanta was definitely going to pay a lot too now that we're seeing how this deal was going I thought it was just a trade hey let's see if we can get back into this thing it was like a no you're getting uh next five year franchise quarterback I think probably everybody was in the same conversation than you have to
Starting point is 01:05:21 assume right I would guess but yeah how quickly it happened, too, after he was not indicted, it's like, bam, they hit the ground running. They were obviously ready, and everyone's watching around the league. So, yeah, it just all seemed to come together so quick after we've been waiting all year. Like, okay, when's the next date where we're going to learn something? We've been saying that for, what, seven months now? Yeah, but then they said that Friday.
Starting point is 01:05:42 They were like, a lot of answers coming this Friday, a lot of answers coming this Friday, and we looked up with this whole thing we didn't know what the fuck it was what was happening the grand jury we had no idea what it was so we look it up and then we see those quotes it's like we were the only ones saying this is not ending on friday like no from our research that we have done with that many allegations with the way this thing goes with the ham sandwich comment this thing has to continue on and like that's what courts are right then isn't it just like one prolonged incredibly prolonged process that's kind of how it is i listen i fantasy land
Starting point is 01:06:17 everything is properly justice processed and everything quickly like but i think in real life that this shit all takes forever, real, real long. I wonder when we'll get the whole civil thing. I have no idea. But I think as soon as the NFL, they were waiting on that Friday. I bet somebody,
Starting point is 01:06:34 they had somebody probably in each building. Hey, you keep an eye out, okay, on what's going on in that grand jury down there in Houston, please. And then as soon as it came back, they're not indicted.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Bang! Casario's phone was just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's crazy. People aren't going to like it ever, by the way. People aren't going to like it ever. But Deshaun goes from potentially
Starting point is 01:06:53 like 20 years in jail, maybe, you know, to $230 million guaranteed. What a ride. And I assume there's a documentary about all of this. It's going to come out at some point. We'll see it all.
Starting point is 01:07:04 For sure. For sure. But also, like... Absolutely. some point. We'll see it all. For sure. For sure. But also, like. Absolutely. Wait. He said you think, right? Oh, no, I didn't. Did you say, AJ, did you say you think?
Starting point is 01:07:12 Mm-mm. I thought I heard you think. Yes, I think there'll be a documentary about all this. Definitely. At some point. I think so. Now I lost my train of thought. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:19 No, it's 100% my fault. But I think they're probably filming, right? Yeah, I would assume so. All of this is probably. You think Deshaun is filming? Yes. I mean, they're not going to put out the actual testimony from the accusers, though. The grand jury can, I guess.
Starting point is 01:07:33 No. But you really think they're following? I don't know, though. Going into that, would you feel that? I guess he has kind of stuck, said how confident he is in what he believes happened. So maybe he would want that to all people be out there someday hey people are not happy i mean there was uh all the networks this morning that cover was like really yeah oh yeah yeah it's those are serious allegations like very just a lot of
Starting point is 01:07:57 them too when there's that many i think that's what people like come on now very serious allegations but then the grandeur it's like such an interesting exactly i i think that's probably jump into those waters then too because it doesn't mean you're innocent obviously if the grand jury doesn't indict you but they didn't there wasn't enough evidence to charge you or indict you i'm like all right i don't know well isn't that that's what they were waiting to do the entire time right it's like hey if we just got to make sure this guy's not going to jail you know it's like we'll we'll do our due diligence on all the other stuff, but as long as he's not going to jail, like, then we can figure everything else out.
Starting point is 01:08:29 It's a crazy game. Did you see that video this weekend that Bucky Brooks tweeted out from the Michigan Pro Day where, I forget his name. David Ojobo. Ojobo? Yeah, somewhere around there. I don't want to mispronounce it. Tears his Achilles in the middle of one of the workouts, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:46 and the coach just basically walks around and picks up the ball, and then they just, I think, continue doing their thing. This guy working out for his dream job, something he's worked his entire life for, and the people that are running the drills, the NFL folks, see him tear his ACL, obvious ACL, I think, or not ACL, Achilles, I'm sorry, but it was Achilles. I think it was, you know, a pretty apparent, pretty serious injury out of nowhere, non-contact.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Like, I think any of us that have ever been around that type of injury were like, oh, fuck, that's an Achilles right there. Even though I said ACL earlier like an idiot. So serious injury obviously happened. Business as usual. Let's just move on. And, you know, a lot of OGs in the NFL were quote-tweeting that video from Bucky Brooks and saying like, hey, young guys, like, you need to know that whenever you get hurt,
Starting point is 01:09:28 they will move the drill, okay? We are moving on with or without you. This is the NFL. And I don't know if that's necessarily 100% how coaches feel deep down inside, but, man, I have seen a few situations where move that drill 20 fucking yards, somebody get ice on him, and then they just move on we don't have enough time allotted for what we are doing currently to deal and stop everything for what that is that's a pretty serious injury that's going to take some time it is it is the
Starting point is 01:09:57 way things have always been i think i'm not 100 sure but i've seen it a few times and no it is not cool at all it looks bad every single time, AJ. I know situations where this was tough to watch, obviously, you guys walking right by him and everything. And I understand, like, scouts and assistant coaches, whoever's on the side, they're not going to sprint out and go, like, take a knee by the guy, but you should absolutely check on him and see what's going on.
Starting point is 01:10:20 But, I mean, I know there's situations where guys have a a serious neck injury in practice and they move the drill down 15 yards and an ambulance drives in the field and is putting this guy on a backboard and taping his head to the thing and we're running inside run that wasn't me on a team i was on but i know teams where that's happened damn and they're sitting there 10 yards away try because you know we got to get our last three reps of inside run and we're gonna lose this week yeah it's it's my first time witnessing it because I didn't grow up in the football culture. I played soccer in the fall. My first time witnessing it, I remember going, this is wild.
Starting point is 01:10:55 That guy's – and I think they did the same thing. I think he got carted off. I think he went right to the hospital. It was a leg injury of some sort. And it was like, we just don't have enough time to figure out if that guy's life's over yeah i guess you know but then it just became like regular like people would tell stories like yeah oh i seen just like what you just said oh i've seen one time a guy two guys boom they're like two guys they say injury and they're like oh that's why don't do that in
Starting point is 01:11:21 practice move everything up 20 yards and the equipment manager's got to move cones and do that. It's just like business as usual almost. But I do believe there's a human somewhere in there. It had to be like, you all right? You know, I think that is the. There's more humans. There's more humans in there than there are not.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Like, there's more guys. Like, the majority of the coaching staff, they truly do care about their players and what they do. I think even now more as younger coaches are getting in, it's more of a peer-to-peer relationship instead of like dictator to hey you guys listen to me and don't ever question me it's not really like that most places so but yeah i mean as a whole yeah there's some bad apples out there that don't care at all and they're just worried about keeping their job they don't care about what you know until they know how much you care oh Oh, that's right. So deep.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Did you come up with that? Yeah, yeah, I made it up. Goddamn right. Is that a situation where you could have had that insurance potentially that people get? Lloyd's of London. Yes, that one. Okay, so I had the Lloyd's of London insurance on my right leg the year that I got franchise tagged. And everybody told me it was a good idea.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Good idea, good idea. I would have had to get my leg sawed off basically. Accidentally. a good idea good idea good idea i would have had to get my legs sawed off basically accidentally and not able to walk or kick a ball for the next like three years to get any of that money probably not i'm not saying it's not worth it for some people for like their shoulders and like pitchers for their arms if something you know could potentially crazy happen in life but for me it was basically like can't can't even kick a ball for at least 365 days straight. Don't even have the ability to do it. It's like, well, I feel like I just got worked here a little bit. I'm going to remember
Starting point is 01:12:50 this though. I'm going to take this out and I'm going to remember this. And this is just like blackjack insurance. I know it. It's all bullshit. It's all bullshit. But every once in a while, if you feel the way the cards are looking, not that bad of an idea to roll the dice on an insurance play every once in a while. Yeah, absolutely. And what if, you know, what if your leg does get amputated?
Starting point is 01:13:06 Yeah, you're right. You're going to be thinking like, fuck, I wish I would have had that Lloyd's Alarm. I would have had 30 million fucking dollars. Yeah, exactly. What if you did stumble into a circular saw? Exactly. So I would have had to have been, there were certain conditions for that particular. It would have had to have been on the football field where you stumbled into a circular saw,
Starting point is 01:13:21 right? No, that's just for the insurance from the team. But if you're farting around in your garage and you cut your leg off, are you going to collect that insurance? Well, that's an interesting thing because I thought about that a few times. You know, you've got to limp into the stadium and cut your leg off. It was 30 mil. 30 mil.
Starting point is 01:13:37 I was like, oh, man. Should I limp this thing? Did you happen to see Will Compton's tweet about this? I don't know if it was true or not. I did not. What did he say? He said, a story about being a commodity. One time I got hurt during practice, and Braves didn't even move the drill up.
Starting point is 01:13:53 He just ran the next play while I was still on the ground. He yelled, we don't have time for this. Can someone who's not a pussy get in there? And Will had a broken leg. So I don't know if it's true or not. Braves. I saw that. I assumed he was being sarcastic.
Starting point is 01:14:09 He was joking around. I don't know. Braves podcast mode 24-7. Yeah. What a legend, that guy. What is he doing right now? He's at some pro day punching some kid in the face. Yeah, working out.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Isn't he? He's at some pro day. Absolutely. How about that? Oh, boom. Tennessee Titans lose Julio Jones. Yeah, working out. Isn't he? Absolutely. How about that? Oh, boom. Tennessee Titans lose Julio Jones. They say, hey, let's not be scared because the Julio Jones thing didn't work out of not trying to get better at wide receiver immediately.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Bang, give me Bob Woods over there from the Los Angeles Rams. It'll cost a sixth rounder. Rams is probably in the middle of tweeting Will Compton. Probably had, you know, top shelf and bottom shelf stacked to the gills there. Smoking Marlboro Red with a beer. We get Bob Woods. Yeah, what do you guys want in return? We're thinking like a fifth round pick.
Starting point is 01:14:57 How about a sixth? Deal. Fucking send it. When? This year? No, next year. Yeah, fucking send it, please. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:15:03 How is this all they had to give up? It's insane. I have no idea. And why is he not a Colt? He's a stud in what he does on the field, but you hear about all of the intangibles, too, that he brings now. He does the dirty work. He's like a leader.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Everyone looks to him. I don't get how he's only a six-round pick for that. Well, maybe the ACL scares some people. Is it 1979 like does it take six years to recover from an acl now yeah and if people not come back better on the other side of an acl than they were before like that has happened that is kind of modern science especially you know in the modern world that we live in with uh you know physical therapists known what physical therapists know the way muscles are kind of, there's new supplements
Starting point is 01:15:45 and things that you can do to recover quicker than ever. I mean, it is, it's a wild thing. I thought he was going to be a fucking cult. Guess what? He's not, all right? He's a Titan for a sixth round pick. Come on, you guys got Matt Ryan now. You can't be complaining still.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Bingo. It is confirmed. Matthew Ryan, done deal. Yeah, for a third round pick, I thought. Wow. The Falcons are trading former NFL MVP Matt Ryan to the Colts for a 2022 third-round pick. Sources tell Rap Sheet, Tom Pelissero, and Mike Garofalo, which is very fascinating because hashtag J-New. So this is an interesting game. Maybe they did all find out, though.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Maybe people did tell them each individually the way they worded it. Jay Glazer had this one kind of thrown out into the universe earlier than everybody else. Not that that is that big of a deal because all these people break incredible news on a daily basis. We appreciate you all. But with that being said, the Colts and Matt Ryan are now a thing. A third rounder is going back. How are you doing? Keep it moving.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Third round bust. Okay? Take care. We got a quarterback now named Matty Ice, AJ. We're back in the fucking Super Bowl. It's great to be here. Great to be here.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Good day to be a Colt, isn't it? It's a great day. It's a good day for the shoe. Hashtag. Hashtag for the shoe. Good day for the shoe. I was intrigued to see, you know, who's going to be that quarterback.
Starting point is 01:17:05 I did hear around town they're looking for new season ticket holders. They're doing stuff like that, like sending out reminders for ticket holders. I had heard because I went and did the public this weekend. That was fun. Congrats, Nick. Congrats, Nick. You did the public? I did the public.
Starting point is 01:17:22 What does that mean exactly? I went out in public. It was a good time. I never go out anymore. It was amazing. Where'd you go? Like a bowling alley or what? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:17:31 We went to a bar. Yeah. A good bar. The Oak one here. It was a good time. Great time. Celebrated the birthday. Celebrated live.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I did the public, but I got a chance to chat with some people that I hadn't seen in some time because I hadn't done the public in a while because I just work and go home, work and go home, work and go home. A lot of people were saying, hey, a lot of season ticket holders are like, we need to know who's going to be the quarterback. I think that was something that was very much weighing on the entire organization. You assume for free agents, they're trying to recruit in there.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Hey, come on, we've got a good team. Who's touching the ball every single play, though? I'd like to know that. We're getting it figured out we're getting it figured out boom you bring in matt ryan people have enough respect for his ability around the league we'll be able to sign some more players the boys will be able to go to work it's a good day to be a cult it's a good day for the shoe it's a good day for everything happening around here in indiana and possible julio reunion in indianapolis with maddie he's bringing Julio Jones maybe. Wow. Huh? Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Look at this. You guys are dead. You got no fullback even on the roster anymore. You guys are dead over there, Mitchell Trubisky on a two-year deal. We got Matty Ice cuz. Hey, Russell Wilson goes to Denver. Take a hike. Hack it. Okay. Matty Ice.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Matty Ice, dude. Matty Ice, dude. Fucking Colts are back. He's playing with ankle pads on. It is interesting, too, that they basically just went out and said, or say it was like, hey, get me the exact opposite of Carson Wentz. Yeah. I don't care what it takes. Give me the exact fucking opposite of Carson Wentz,
Starting point is 01:19:01 and we are good to go. Boom. You got Matt Ryan. All right. So the Atlanta Falcons, we had wondered what was going to happen with their quarterback position. We put the pieces together. I believe it was Tone Diggs who actually did it. You know, the Titans were already Smith used to sleep on the couch
Starting point is 01:19:13 as an offensive assistant all the way to becoming an offensive coordinator to now the head coach of the Falcons. He was with Mariota. Mike Garofalo saying, now watch for Marcus Mariota of the Falcons. Sources say Atlanta is expected to pursue a reunion with Mariota and Artie Smith, who was the Mariota during his time at the Titans. Hey, it feels like our show is doing pretty good today. How about it?
Starting point is 01:19:34 Hey, come here, AJ. Huh? It feels like we're doing pretty good today. Yeah, they obviously had a plan when they were, you know, working on moving on from Matt Reiner trading him. They had to have a plan on who was going to be the next guy. That is not true. We moved on from Matt Reiner trading him, they had to have a plan on who was going to be the next guy. That is not true. We moved on from Carson.
Starting point is 01:19:47 You know? You know? Take a $40 million cap hit, you would think you have some kind of plan. Hey, did you just get back from somewhere? We all see what we do every commercial break. We all sprinted to the bathroom, by the way, and came back. Do you do that as well? What do you do?
Starting point is 01:20:02 You just hang out in that attic all by yourself? No, I usually sprint down the attic steps over to the closest bathroom. Oh, do you have one in is it a pretty good little hall there? I mean, it's not too far, but it's I definitely have to be keep a pretty quick pace if I want to get back
Starting point is 01:20:17 especially on those minute and a half, two minute breaks. Yeah, I apologize for that. That's on me. Had to keep talking about Ryan there and whatever other nonsense that just spills out of my mouth. Some of these arenas on Friday Night Smackdown, because I've got to get up and pee. So there it is. At some commercial break, I'm going to get up and I'm going to run and pee.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Some of these arenas, man, some of the VOMs, some of the VOMs don't have men's rooms in them. VOMs. It's a VOMitorium, man. It's the entry basically into an arena, you know, on the corners. Basically, there's like four of them.
Starting point is 01:20:51 What is this from? Who told you about this term? I was, well, at an arena. I said, hey, where's the nearest bathroom for when, you know, I got to run to somebody that had been part of the setup? And they go, I think you go down that VOM back there. And I said, what? Excuse me? I i literally this is exactly how what did you just say and they ran through an entire arena lexicon vomitorium or something i don't know if i'm saying it right but yeah that vom over there some of the bombs though only have women's rooms
Starting point is 01:21:19 and those are normally the closest sometimes i got to run two three bombs you know in the middle of smackdown through the crowd, basically. And I sweat. As I'm getting back, I'm putting headphones on. I'm dripping in sweat. And it's like, Roman Reigns is the fucking best. You know, just right back in there. It is a wild time.
Starting point is 01:21:38 I don't know how you run down the attic door or steps, but you get back in here. A vomitorium is a passage situated below or behind a tier of seats in an amphitheater. Bingo. Hey, sorry about it. Why is it called that? I don't know. Why not? Why don't you ask the first ever architect? People during the show, they used to
Starting point is 01:21:57 go through that situation to throw up, so that's how the name was. You don't just keep a giant jug full of your own piss under the announce table that you periodically fill up? Nah. Could you imagine if Ronda Rousey threw the table? Oh my god, there's piss everywhere. Hey, that could be
Starting point is 01:22:13 part of the program. He throws your own piss at you. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I ain't about that. And by the way, I... Vince should put a porta potty right next to the desk and that'd be another part of the program. Like, oh, here you go, Pat. We don't have to run through the bombs. that's actually a pretty good idea i get that thing sponsored and then think of like all of a sudden brock when you're not in there he knocks the port-a-potty over or something then you put you put austin theory in there and you give him a
Starting point is 01:22:33 story to lift it up and hang it over the crowd oh my god all of a sudden my potty is a party let's go yeah okay now we're talking i'm with it i like this good brainstorming session we just had that was a lot of fun. Let's get back to some breaking news. Matt Ryan is the quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts. Now the Atlanta Falcons are quarterbackless. Everybody's linking Mariota to Artie Smith because of their days in Tennessee. Maybe Baker Mayfield.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Maybe Jimmy G. Is Jimmy G going to be a niner then? Because we're wondering about Baker Mayfield having a landing spot now because the Colts are taken and the Falcons are allegedly in on Mariota, which we could have never guessed Mariota being the next domino to fall after the quarterback thing here. Matt Ryan coming to the Colts changes everything, I think, AJ. Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 01:23:18 I mean, has there ever been an offseason where we saw so much movement from high-profile quarterbacks and just big-time names all over the league. And I would like to say thank you. I would like to say thank you. I think everyone even involved, probably GMs, coaches, everyone's like, hey, this is cool. If you have a guy, if you have a quarterback, I mean, Carolina's sitting there trying to find a guy.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Other teams are trying to, but it's got to be, it keeps them on their toes. It's not boring, that's for sure. To all parties involved, we thank you. Honestly. Thank you. Thank you for this. You see what Connor looks like today, by the way. Have you seen this? Looks good. What do you got? You got a little fontanel up there you're protecting
Starting point is 01:23:53 still? No, it's the NHL trade deadline day, pal. Clearly you're not a hockey guy. No, you just look like little kids that still have a soft spot and have to wear a helmet. What? Yeah, you've never seen a baby wearing a helmet? I have. What's that for?
Starting point is 01:24:06 A soft spot? Yeah. Yeah, a fontanel. Just in case a hawk comes in and fucking grabs it. No, I don't. Herd's a prey. I assume that's what it was for. You were protecting the soft spot.
Starting point is 01:24:19 He doesn't have a fontanel, okay? That's right. This guy's a full-blown adult, even though he doesn't look like it currently. He's just dedicated to hockey, right? That's right. Yes, the Bruins are getting so much better today. No, you aren't. You guys are fucking stinking. No, we got the best defender in the league over the weekend. My guy Weeks, he fucking broke the news and fucking
Starting point is 01:24:34 popped about it, pal. Hey, how about Weeks? He's breaking news from the middle of a windstorm. He's crushing. I saw Weeks break some news in a windstorm the other day. He doesn't care. Do it anywhere. Hey, pens are getting better. We got Patty Kane today. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Is he really? No, no. That'd be awesome. I'm not an insider for hockey, but anyway, that's how people operate. Yeah, my sources are telling me Patty Kane did the pens, dude. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:25:00 All you gotta do is put per sources. Yeah, well, that's not a bitch lie. I don't even go listen to them again. Who were they? Well, they're anonymous for their safety. Well, how do well, that's not a bitch lie. I don't go listen to them again. Who were they? Well, they're anonymous for their safety. Well, how do we know they're not just going to lie to you again? Fool me once, you know. That should be like real journalistic integrity.
Starting point is 01:25:15 If you use anonymous sources and it's wrong, you should out your anonymous sources if you truly had a source. That's fascinating, isn't it? Because then you would be putting them to the fire. Be a little kind of like hey if you want to be an anonymous source you better be right because if not you will be public hey that's what we're looking for in uh officiating right yeah officiating like there should be press i i've heard this pitched a lot on the internet but i believe the refs of all sports that are on television that other people have to watch should have to do press conferences afterwards and explain what happened. I think that is, I know people have been
Starting point is 01:25:50 pitching this for a long time. I think it'll help the refs publicly because they can say what they were thinking and they can admit fault too in those press conferences. And then I think it helps the humans too because we at least feel a little justification from like, hey, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:26:07 Like that kid dunking in the middle of madness. Yeah. That took me back to the NFL. Took me back, right. Literally, as I was sitting on the same couch watching the same TV, it happened. I was like, oh, you remember when those refs were like, don't you dance?
Starting point is 01:26:19 Don't you even think about being happy right now? Like, why is that a thing? Why is this happening? You know? The dunk one was, I mean, absurd. It's uncalled for. Is there any explanation from anybody on why this guy hasn't been fired? Like, what happened?
Starting point is 01:26:33 Well, Gene Steratore gave a full, by the way, I love Gene. You love Gene. Everybody loves Gene. I think that Gene has ever refed. He's the man. Yeah. One of the only refs universally loved, I think, in all sports in which he refed. Now, I am very happy for that Western Pennsylvania man.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Thank you. Paisano. Paisano. Of course. Western Pennsylvania. Of course, exactly. I'm very happy that that man has had incredibly successful careers officiating football at the highest level, college basketball. I think he could have done NBA if he wanted to, I'd assume.
Starting point is 01:27:01 I feel like that is in his blood. I'm happy he's so accomplished that he gets to have the perfect, CBS is the perfect place for him to work, college basketball and NFL games. I mean, it is literally perfect. And he probably got a massive paying crew, so job well done. Yeah, Gene. But Gene needs to be running a school too.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Like they need to go to Sterator School. They need to figure out how to, I don't care what you're reffing. I think you need to go. Just the way he handles the game, emotions, energy, like just being able to be a little self-aware. I think a lot of these refs, you know, just lack out on. It's not their fault. I just think it isn't ever presented to them
Starting point is 01:27:37 in a fashion that can be explained like, hey, you're fucking up the game because of this. You know, like that is something I think Gene Sterator could do. Yeah, like just the call that they give the he made he dunks and he has to hang on the rim for a half a second so he doesn't flip backwards because of his momentum and people below you all that stuff like what i don't know like if he sat there if you teabag a dude did you teabag the back of his neck yeah i understand the technical but there was nobody in sight he
Starting point is 01:28:03 had no intention of doing that it It just doesn't make any sense. And I think he looked at a guy because he didn't want to hit the guy coming off of the rim, and then he jogged. He got off the rim really quick, too, I feel like, for how much momentum he had. Then he jogged back. It wasn't like a stuck around. He, like, jogged back.
Starting point is 01:28:16 That was insane to me. You know, a lot of these basketball refs, and, you know, when you lose bets, it's easy to do this. But a lot of these basketball refs, they have that whistle in their mouth just waiting, and some of them, I'm like, how do they know that a guy's hand hit right here as opposed to his pinky right here? Just like, they can call that, hey, they can call that at will. Yeah, every time.
Starting point is 01:28:38 And then whenever they slow it down in slow motion, it's like, oh, you can see how his arm got his pinky there it's like oh okay so they have like their their air percentage is rather large it's like yeah if they even touch them it's a trouble it's but then the amount of charges that get called yeah versus it's just they could call it on anything on the body at any time because they called a bump or something and it was like so you can't box out but i thought that was called boxing out well i did it in a malicious manner what the fuck are we talking about that is i never played basketball at like a real level with real rules and everything like that i don't think i understand how that is not something that people get pissed off about every time you watch basketball and a lot of those games
Starting point is 01:29:20 too like they'll they'll just let them play in the first half and then in the second half they get yeah and and like they really can impact you one of the starters gets you know picks up two fouls right away like that guy's not playing the next 10-15 minutes like and and it happens in damn near every game it feels like where at some point they're just like all right we need to remind people that this is our show as well we're here yeah we traveled away from our families put these suits on and we got these things ain't nobody got. Their shoes can whistle. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:49 But all that whistling stops. Why do they look so terrible, too? The ref uniforms are awful. They're like Under Armour material tucked in so tight. Then they wear what looks like all jet black hokas that have a nine-inch heel on. I'm like, I just don't get it. I actually did see a hoka on one of the refs. I'm like, I just don't get it. I actually did see a hook on one of the refs. I was like, oh, look at this.
Starting point is 01:30:06 I walked by someone at a basketball game this weekend wearing hookers, and I just laughed out loud. Didn't say anything. I'm just like, oh, okay. This is real. You're such a bully. Yeah, what the hell? Not as a person.
Starting point is 01:30:17 I'm walking. They didn't hear me. I'm walking. I'm chuckling, and my kid's like, what's going on? I'm like, yeah, don't worry about it. Imagine him walking, his fingers naturally throwing up gang signs because how mangled they are. You walk past him in Ohio.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Oh, my God, that's A.J. Hawk. And then he – Nice shoes. And then just keeps walking. That is unbelievable. Despicable. That's what you do. I was past it.
Starting point is 01:30:35 They had no idea I was laughing at them or with them. I see you were laughing. That fucking guy's got platform runners. No, I was like, wow, Pat's not lying. People actually wear these out in the wild. Like, it's real. In the public, dude. I thought you'd only wear them if you're running an Ironman or something.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Well, I might be getting into that. I'm in good shape right now. I know. I can tell. You look good. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I just sprinted up 70 stairs, though, this morning on the Stairmaster.
Starting point is 01:31:01 I think I'm lighter than I was the last time I was doing all this because I started out on much lighter weight. And for whatever reason, my lungs feel a lot better. Now, I know long COVID is supposed to not be that way. I feel real good right now. I feel real good. Legs a little heavy after the Stairmaster day still. Hopefully, like another week of this, I'll be able to break through that
Starting point is 01:31:18 and just feel good all the time. But I feel good. What are you doing? Are you just doing cardio? You jacking weights up? What's going on? Yeah, I'm jacking some weights up. You know, I'm doing some weight work.
Starting point is 01:31:29 A lot of cardio and boxing, though. Okay. Obviously, you need to be in great shape to have a match at WrestleMania against a guy, but you don't know how long the match is. The match could be two minutes. It could be an hour, right? No, I got pretty good.
Starting point is 01:31:44 This thing's going to be probably, I don't know, eight seconds long. Yeah, sure The match could be two minutes. It could be an hour, right? No, I got a pretty good... This thing's going to be probably, I don't know, eight seconds long? Yeah, sure. If I had to guess? Oh, you want to make it longer than that. No, no, no. I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
Starting point is 01:31:54 I'm here to get a dub, all right? If I, whoop, miss, boom, that thing's over, one, two, three, I'm with it. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm 100% with it. Now, if it doesn't, you know,
Starting point is 01:32:03 if he catches one early, like like old Patty Pimblitt, oh, shit, a little bit off there, and I got to work a little bit, you know, like a fucking boa constrictor, dude. Him wrapping his legs around that guy and just locking him in and then just pounding his face. Give me your chin. Give me your chin. Give me your chin.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Give me your chin. You gave me your chin. This thing's over. I mean, it was. I'm so happy for this dude. He talks shit and then backs it up. I love everything about it. The amount of confidence it takes to put it out there. You know, a lot. The amount to go and back it up, which means the amount of work you have to put into
Starting point is 01:32:40 it. The amount of sacrifice you have to put into it while being this super fun, shit-talking guy. Him working. The amount of sacrifice you have to put into it while being the super fun shit talking guy, him working, the amount of shit he's had to do behind the scenes that are very miserable to get to this point. I have the utmost respect for anybody that talks about it and is about it. And this dude is good for him. He he blow the roof off the gaff and he did.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Now he needs a stadium. He's a true he's a star, man. Like he's a legit superstar in that sport. And I think, yeah, having he's a stadium. He's a star, man. He's a legit superstar in that sport. And I think he's a total package. I listen to him afterwards talk about how if he keeps making money and continuing, no one's ever going to be looking for food where he grew up. He wants to help people. He seems like not only an awesome personality, great fighter,
Starting point is 01:33:18 he seems like a good dude. A scouser, I believe. That action. Yeah, he is. He said, I tore me LCL or whatever a couple weeks ago still got a first round sub so I'm gonna I'm gonna heal that I'm gonna get fat probably and then I'll be fighting whoever and then he said the lion do not concern themselves with the opinions of sheep for the last guy that called him out and then he calls out Instagram calls them bullies and then
Starting point is 01:33:40 freedom for 97 I guess is a uh it was the song that he had them sing that is something that is uh un unsolved case of something that bad that happened in liverpool down the day i think justice for 97 i think is what he had him sing he had the entire it was a show though that guy was a entire show whenever he was out there dana white's got to be so pumped about it yeah he's like uh you know they that's why they make comparisons to conor mcgregor with how he like relates to the fans how much they love him how much he can talk and then back it up so yeah i hope he can continue on this path me too london by the way those fans were fucking insane oh yeah jump that's like when wrestling goes over to
Starting point is 01:34:19 europe they're fans the hey are. Yeah, I went to it. The best part, when I was in London years ago, the greatest thing, my favorite part, we did all the sightseeing, all that, whatever, was we went to some local pub at like 10 a.m., and there was a bunch of dudes there watching soccer going crazy. We ate, and then my buddy and I, we went back at 4 p.m. for like an early dinner because that place was so awesome. The same group of people were there cheering, yelling at the TVs.
Starting point is 01:34:48 I was like, this is it. This is a true feel of what this place is. It was awesome. That's why watching those soccer games, and we watched during COVID when there was no fans there. And with the way they zoomed into it, you could kind of get lost in the sport if somebody good was playing like Christian Pulisic, the best in the world.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Right. Oh, he's back being the best for you? Yeah. There might have been a couple potholes in the road there, but he's back. He's young. He's going to figure it out. Watching those games with those fans, it is just 90 minutes straight of
Starting point is 01:35:19 just them chanting and singing. Their energy levels just never seem to dip, and it is fantastic. Especially, imagine if their first sport they were introduced to was American football. Imagine what they, like if they were fans for American football, and, you know, the NFL fans were fans for soccer, soccer would be a snooze fest. I mean, it would be. They keep you interested almost in those games sometimes.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Just the chance, the random chance, you just check it out they're going banana land you never know if somebody's gonna end up on the goddamn field which i'm sure they're trying to combat at all times but every some places some places they just start curb stomping people and they have to cancel the game wow that's on europe that was not europe no where was that mexico yeah oh yeah barcelona's all the way back though also are they really very good squad they beat real Where was that? Mexico. Barcelona's all the way back, though. Are they really? Very good squad. They beat Real Madrid in the El Clasico 4 bagel yesterday.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Wow. Good for Barcelona. Four goals for Barcelona. Bagel goals for Real. Real Madrid. In Real Madrid. Bro, Barcelona moves on from Lionel Messi, and he goes to PSG. And we thought Barthelona was dead.
Starting point is 01:36:31 We actually thought they were going to go bankrupt, lose the entire team. That's right. Barthelona said, no, no, no, no. We're from fucking Barthelona. We will dig down deep in our loins, and we will fight for everything we got because that's what Barthelonians do.
Starting point is 01:36:48 And now Barthelona's all the way back at the top of the entire thing, pal? Barthelona legend Xavi came back to coach the team ever since he took over Barthelona. Very good at soccer again. See, Xavi knows what it's about in Barthelona. Also, Spotify saved him too. Spotify saved Barthelona. Also, Spotify saved them, too. Spotify saved Barthelona? Yeah, they've always been the Camp Nou.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Obviously, the stadium's Camp Nou, but now it's Spotify Camp Nou, so they got them. They invested and saved the entire thing. That's because at Spotify, they respect Barthelona. Big time. Just like you need to. You. Name two players.
Starting point is 01:37:24 So that's the thing about this Bartholona squad. They're so deep. They got these guys. Stop saying the full name. They do, young. They do. That is how it's called, right? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Bartholona ball. And that is a good point because when they lost Methy, you thought it was just over and done with. Bingo. Because Lionel Methy is a game changer. He's winning that golden Lombardi. That's right. Is he still with the Boundour?
Starting point is 01:37:49 Huh? The Boundour. He's winning that thing. Yeah, every season. Come on. For Bartholomew. Bingo. It's either him or Cristiano Ronaldo.
Starting point is 01:38:01 That's right. What about Chris Polific? Well, that's the thing about Polific. He's a player, too. Born for Bartholomew. What's your problem, AJ? I don't know if it's – so is Messi still on this team? He's on PSG.
Starting point is 01:38:14 He's on PSG. Who are you talking about? It sounds to me like if they won, I assume Bagel means zero. It sounds like their goalie just stood on his head. No, no. Yeah. You get credit to Messi. Well, Messi wasn't there. He wasn't involved in the game at all. Why are you talking about Messi like he's there? It sounds like their goalie just stood on his head. No, no. Yeah. You get credit to Methy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Well, Methy wasn't there. Why are you talking about Methy like he's there? Because whenever Methy left, we thought Bartholomew was dead. Come on. Follow the product. Why does this guy not know anything about the soccer? Follow the product. Yeah, please do. One time.
Starting point is 01:38:41 You tell me when Alexi Lalas comes back. Alexi? I'll tune in. That's Lawless Excuse me Listen if Tony Mola Wants to get back in goal Even though we got that 16 year
Starting point is 01:38:55 Looking year old looking kid Who's a stallion what's his name Gumpy Brad Guzman Hold on real quick let's stop with the bullshit soccer talk Let's get to real soccer talk. Okay. Although the soccer Lombardi is coming home for the first time to the United States of America. Is that the World Cup?
Starting point is 01:39:13 Yes. The soccer Lombardi. Coming to America. Again. You know, it's going to be like a big celebration. I heard we might not even send our team there because of all the strife that has gone on where it's being played. Well, you stopped it.
Starting point is 01:39:26 I do not know that. Cutter's beautiful. Well, if that's not going to be the case, then we'll win the next soccer Lombardi whenever hopefully everything's, you know. Back here. On home ice. Whatever the case. Our team's fucking better than everybody.
Starting point is 01:39:37 I know it. You know it. We all know it. Okay? Sorry about it. Your sport, we've taken it over. I saw a preview for the England national team's documentary. I'm not hurt since we're better than everybody.
Starting point is 01:39:48 What? What do you mean? Those guys are practicing together. Those guys are hanging out together. In the preview I watched, it's like we can't get the lads off the pitch. They want to hang out around. Our team doesn't even see each other once every fucking eight months. I'm a little bit worried about how England's running their operation.
Starting point is 01:40:04 There's a documentary coming out, I think, on Monday. Tonight it's coming out on YouTube at like 7 p.m. or something like that. I don't know if it's their time, our time, what time. But there's a documentary coming about this England team behind the scenes through the entire Europe where they missed the penalty kick and everything. This team is a tight team. Our team doesn't even fucking – we got an A team, a B team, a C team. I'm worried about it.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Well, that team lost us thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars. So maybe let's not judge how we're working off of that fucking team. Yeah, but they're callous is what I'm saying. And that documentary looks awesome. Wait, but our team, though, are they all spread out on their MLS teams right now? And then they come together once in a while. We got guys playing overseas. Come on.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Bundesliga. So how do these other teams get to stay together the whole time? I think because they're in England a lot of these people. Their league's so big. But aren't they all on their own teams? Yeah, but they hang out. England's the size of what? Massachusetts or something?
Starting point is 01:40:57 Yeah, exactly. It's pretty small. When Manchester United and Liverpool's rivalry was at its peak, they had to take two buses to games for England because they all hated each other so much. I like whenever you guys are like that. That's what we need England to be like.
Starting point is 01:41:12 We need them on two different buses. Our team just needs to be in the same fucking continent for a little bit. That'd be great. Wait, their own team had to take two buses because they hated each other so much? Yeah, the rivalry was so bitter. They couldn't stand each other and they never won. They had so many good players. That team goes as every kind
Starting point is 01:41:27 goes. Harry's a part of this. Harry's a part of this. For how long? It was always glory. Harry is on fire right now. I hate to break it to him, but if Wayne Rooney's not walking back out on the pitch, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:41:42 They're cooked. What about Beckham? I heard he was coming back for a swing. Maybe he'll matter. Okay, they're cooked. What about Beckham? I heard he was going to be coming back for another swing. Maybe he'll coach. Is Alex Ferguson coaching? Oh, is he? That guy got knighted because of how goddamn good he is at soccer. Yeah. What happened to the big dude that took the world by storm that played for the LA team, Abramovich
Starting point is 01:41:57 or whatever? Have some respect. It's on AC Milan, you asshole. Ibrahimovic, please. There we go. I was very close. Not at all. It's on AC Milan, you asshole. Ibrahimovic, please. There we go. I was very close. Not at all. He's still one of the best players, right?
Starting point is 01:42:09 I made a big splash over here. Yeah, Zlatan's the best. He's probably the best MLS guy that we've gotten. Thierry Henry was here. He was amazing. He obviously did well in the tri-state area, I believe, because he was playing for the Red Bulls. Beckham was huge.
Starting point is 01:42:21 He was making like $2 million a day For like five years To play in the MLS But Zlatan Ibrahimović I think with the amount Of shit he talked Kind of broke through A lot for whenever People were falling off The MLS
Starting point is 01:42:32 I enjoyed watching him Especially in the El Trafico Bingo Yeah He'd always put on a show When it was LA vs LA All day
Starting point is 01:42:39 El Trafico always delivers Does Just like March Madness What did he play Did he play ten games for LA Like where is he? What are you talking about, dude? Three years you befooled.
Starting point is 01:42:48 What's he really? Follow the program. I better start following the program. Gump's getting upset. Columbus Crew is still undefeated this year, AJ. You're looking good. Hey, Columbus Crew. I know.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Lower.com Stadium. It's a beautiful setup. All right, let's go to the phones here on the 5-Hour Energy phone line. Let's go to Seth in Pittsburgh. Remember, go to 5hourenergy.com. Use promo code McAfee to receive 10% off. Seth, what's going on, diner? First off, how we doing?
Starting point is 01:43:18 Keep it moving, boys. Thank you, Seth. Thank you, Seth. Hey, congratulations on Matt Ryan, first off. Thank you. Good talk. Thank you. Could be worse I just wanted to ask Are you going to show up next Monday in Pittsburgh
Starting point is 01:43:32 And embarrass that stage Austin Theory in your hometown? What? Yeah I appreciate that Is that He said next Monday Pittsburgh So like Smackdown Doesn't go to Indianapolis Or to Pittsburgh He said next month. So that's where Raw is next Monday. Next Monday. Yeah. Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 01:43:49 So like SmackDown doesn't go to Indianapolis or to Pittsburgh. Raw has been to Indianapolis twice in the last year, and now they're going to Pittsburgh. Come on. Come on. What's that about? How far in advance do they book them? I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:44:00 I just learned they're in Pittsburgh next Monday. Operate like two different shows, by the way. Just, you know, I think the same couple people, obviously, are part of both. You're like two different teams, basically? Yeah. By the way, I'm not a part of the SmackDown team. I only show up on Friday. They work house shows all weekend. The SmackDown crew arrives in cities.
Starting point is 01:44:18 All those wrestlers, say, where are you this Friday? Brooklyn. Where Brooklyn at? Where Brooklyn at? Where Brooklyn at? It's over there in New York. It's one of the boroughs. That's right.
Starting point is 01:44:29 We're going to be there. Hell yeah. Barclays Center? Yeah. Oh, that would be sweet. So then those guys and girls, all those wrestlers, they'll go wrestle somewhere Saturday, not on TV? Yeah, I believe.
Starting point is 01:44:40 I'm not 100% sure. I've been following along with Instagram. I need to ask more. I can't believe they still do those house shows that they don't air. They do arenas, man. I know. They do full arenas. I guess those shows are like old school wrestling.
Starting point is 01:44:55 Yeah, I guess they're great shows. I know some of the women and men that I've talked to love doing those shows. Those shows are good. Is there commentators? Does Michael Cole go? No. Is there a PA guy at least that announces it for the whole arena? Yes. Got it. Are we still keeping up
Starting point is 01:45:11 that charade? Are we going to be vaccinated to be in Barclays? Are you... Charade? Are you working for the Brooklyn Nets? That was the general we. Just to play because Kyrie went to the game and sat courtside. Well, Pat's announcing.
Starting point is 01:45:26 Well, he works for Brooklyn Nets, though, that are in New York. Yes. And if he played, he'd be working. But when he went to the game, he was just spectator. Bingo. But I'll tell you what, he was breathing the same air, wasn't he? Yeah, he was. Is he okay?
Starting point is 01:45:41 Is he all right? Because that's for his safety, too, right? Yeah. Of course. Is he all right? I think? Because that's for his safety too, right? Of course. Is he alright? I think. I haven't seen him. Are you okay, AJ? I'm doing great. Me too, man.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Hell yeah. Hey, here's to us. Have a good day. Drinking a lot of Gatorade lately. Yeah, just trying to stay hydrated. Actually, this is my own concoction. I put water in there and then I got the Gatorade Zero packets. And then I do a nice little... You know what I mean? Because it's hard to find
Starting point is 01:46:10 the Glacier Freeze Gatorade Zeros. Hard to find. Green tea? Your green tea is fine. Isn't it? Yeah, doesn't this dehydrate you a little bit? I mean, they claim caffeine dehydrates you. I disagree. Well, I would listen to you more than I'd listen to, they claim caffeine dehydrates you. I disagree, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Well, I would listen to you more than I listen to whoever they are that you're talking about. What else do I need to know? You gotta trust the science, I guess. Yeah, but you're like a super meathead. You work out... So like black coffee, people say, oh, you know, it dehydrates you because they just heard it dehydrates you. Yes, I've seen that where they claim that
Starting point is 01:46:42 black coffee or the caffeine dehydrates you. I could drink 10 cups of black coffee, which I've told that where they claim that black coffee or, you know, the caffeine dehydrates you. I could drink 10 cups of black coffee, which I've told the story. I did before the Super Bowl because we got there 15 hours early in the locker room, and that hydrates me because, hey, bud, it's just water. Just sprinkle through some beans. Just push through those beans. I'm fine. I've got a lot of liquid.
Starting point is 01:46:58 Okay. So you, when nutritionists would come into the Packers, by the way, I'd have very similar conversations. But I'm not saying I wouldn't do that if you're putting a bunch of Splenda and sugar and garbage and cream in it. No, that will dehydrate you and make you – it won't be good. But black coffee, fine. What about two Splendas?
Starting point is 01:47:14 Yeah, that's not going to kill you. Great, that's fine. That's what I'm saying. I don't know – you don't need the Gatorade. All right. All right. He's right. Science checks out.
Starting point is 01:47:23 What? Just normal black coffee will not dehydrate you. That a baby AJ? Okay. I never read that anywhere. I came up with that on my own. Dr. Hawk. Does that say sources?
Starting point is 01:47:34 AJ Hawk there? I think so. I think we got updated. Study peer review. Peer review. AJ Hawk. I learned about peer review this past season on this show, by the way. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:44 Remember? That's right. It's nice. We learned about science, peer review, all that on this show, by the way. Oh, yeah. Remember? That's nice. We learned about science, peer review, all that stuff. I got thrown into that conversation. Bro, hey, did Diggs – I'm not trying to get into this, but I'm sure Diggs saw the clip where Fouch said, be prepared to possibly be masked again.
Starting point is 01:47:57 No, he didn't say that. Told you he was in the lab cooking something up. No. Stop, Tony. Come on. That's not real. That's not real. No, it is. That's not real no it is that's not real they're not going back to the mess he didn't say we're going to for sure but he said we need to be prepared no i don't prepare for anything not happening i don't want to happen yep no i agree with that
Starting point is 01:48:17 and then whenever it happens i'll just be devastated yeah so it's a lot better life you know it's just moments of devastation as opposed to prolonged devastation thinking that something terrible is going to happen. So I'd rather just say, nah, we ain't doing it ever again. Is this real? This just came out of left field just like peer review did that day. It is being reported, and Fouch did say that, yes. In response to what?
Starting point is 01:48:38 New variant. New variant. Which variant is this son of a bitch? Because Omicron killed them all. Yeah. It's a sub-variant. Like substitute or submission? I think they found it in Israel.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Submissive, probably. Oh, so it's soft? This one's soft, then, if it's submissive. I mean, Fauci just had to talk. It'd been so long. All right. All right. Tell Fauci I ain't putting on a fucking mask again.
Starting point is 01:49:01 All right? All right. I'm done with you. Good God. Tell him. We don't know if this is real. It's called BA2. Did anyone ask Deshaun Watson if he was vaccinated? I don't know if that conversation
Starting point is 01:49:12 happened. His contract, $230 million, none of that came up either. That's a lot of money. It's a sub-lineage of the Omicron variant. What? Omicron's the ancestor of the BA2? Yeah. Badass, dude. That's what they... You thought that Omicron was a ancestor of the BA2? Yeah. Badass, dude.
Starting point is 01:49:26 That's what they... Yeah. You thought that Omicron was a runner. Wait till you see badass two. This sum of bitches is just as fast and much more powerful. Omicron was a bitch, dog. Fast, though. Fast, though. Very fast.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Very fast. It was fast. You know what I mean? That's why you had those sunglasses on for a little bit because it would... Anybody you looked at, bang. I got it. You got it.
Starting point is 01:49:44 We got it. Bang. I got it. You got it. We got it. Bang, I got it, you got it, we got it. Never forget the OG, the 1-9. 1-9 was a motherfucker. Yeah. That was crazy. That was gross. Is Fats still throwing out the first pitch on opening day again?
Starting point is 01:49:56 In Washington? Yeah. I don't know. I ain't watching it. Well, I bet you it's Carson. Oh, it's got to be Carson. Do you think Fats is going to be so pissed when fucking Carson Wentz is the guy throwing it out instead of him? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Oh, my God. Joe isn't going to walk out there and burn one down the middle? Who? Joe Biden. Oh. President Joe Biden. Yeah. I don't know if he's throwing any pitches right now, is he?
Starting point is 01:50:19 Got a lot going on. When's opening day? Has he thrown any? Anywhere? April 7th. Have we ever seen him throw an opening pitch? Maybe for the Delaware Vents? He's got a fucking nasty curveball, I have seen.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Oh, yeah, 12-6. Drops off the table. It's fucking sick. Imagine him stepping up there. Full suit. Yeah. Full suit. Obviously, probably still has the mask.
Starting point is 01:50:38 When is this? April 7th. I don't know. TSA's still doing it, right? Are they still doing it? Sons of bitches. So he has the mask on. What if he fucking has a glove?
Starting point is 01:50:48 And what if Joe Biden fucking goes out there and throws a fucking. Fucking really snaps it off. Snaps that thing off. Catchers even moves. Yeah. Barry Zito. They find that he has a dollop of Vaseline on the bill of attack. He's reaching into glove, working that thing.
Starting point is 01:51:09 Picks up the chalk, hits it a couple of times. The world would explode. Why don't they do that? That'd just be a funny little joke. So you can see it. You can see it. 12 to 6 action. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Oh, my God. He's about to fucking hawk that thing. Is that fucking Biden or Bill Murray? It does look like Bill Murray. Is that from 2022? All right. All right. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:51:31 I don't think that's the case. What? Jameis Winston, breaking news. Jameis Winston will remain a New Orleans Saint. The Saints are reassigning quarterback Jameis Winston to a two-year deal with a base value of $28 million, including $21 million guaranteed. Sources tell Palacero and Rapsheet. So after missing out on Deshaun Watson, New Orleans turns to an old friend at quarterback.
Starting point is 01:51:56 Now, they listed Taysom Hill as a quarterback when they redid his contract a couple weeks ago. Remember, his deal, Taysom Hill, has incentives in it to pay him $40 million a year as quarterback or like $16, $17, or $15. I forget if he plays the gadget position for a more amount of reps. Now they basically say, this is our starting quarterback, just like Drew Brees said on the sideline whenever he was retiring. And he was patting Jameis. This is your team now.
Starting point is 01:52:23 This is your team now. This is your team now. It is officially team now. This is your team now. It is officially Jameis' season in New Orleans. Good luck to Jimmy Winston. And Jameis. Back in an offense I think that he knows. I don't know how big the turnover is after Sean Payton leaves, but let's go, Jameis.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Another start here. Another chance for a fresh start. I think that's great money too. Two years, 28 mil with 21 guaranteed. Did you think he was going to get this much? well a couple years ago coming off an ACL a couple years ago whenever he was a free agent for the first time
Starting point is 01:52:52 there was an absurd amount of people on the free agent market he ended up being the musical chair that was left out he signed for 1 million dollars to go to the New Orleans Saints this is going to be quarterback school Harvard school so he never really got his second big contract I wonder knowing that he's in a position to be their starter, if they said, hey, you guys are going to have to pay us at least a little bit of money because when he was up for
Starting point is 01:53:12 his big money, nothing happened. He's taken a massive cut here. So maybe they had plans all along. If we can't land Deshaun, we'll sign Jameis. And maybe they kept Jameis informed on that. Whatever the case, happy for Jameis Winston getting another chance to go here. I guess they value rehabilitation on an ACL a lot better than, I guess, every other team about Bob Woods' ACL for a six-round pick or whatever the case was. For sure. What is Baker Mayfield going to do?
Starting point is 01:53:40 He's not going to be starting next year anywhere. I don't know. I mean, Seahawks. Panthers probably go all in for Jimmy at this point. Yeah, I guess Seahawks are definitely too. Jimmy is still out there too. Jimmy G allegedly still available. But if they had two second-round picks in hand already,
Starting point is 01:53:56 like that has to be bullshit, right? Because otherwise they would have already – like no one – I don't think – you're not getting anything better than that. Who reported that? Which one? The two second round picks. Was that Peter King in his article? Was that Albert Breer?
Starting point is 01:54:14 Someone sent it in the group. I read it. I'm like, why is that getting made publicly? I actually asked Brandon Bean. I'm like, why do you think that's getting made public? Do you think that's real or not? Is that like a bird call for them? Hey, this is what we already got. If you want to come get Jimmy, we need a little bit better than this. I actually asked Brandon Bean. I'm like, why do you think that's getting made public? You think that's real or not? Is that like a bird call for them?
Starting point is 01:54:27 Hey, this is what we already got. If you want to come get Jimmy, we need a little bit better than this. I don't know. What did he say? He said he tries to pick through the shit. He said, wait until the deal comes out. You'll find out what it was. Josh Norris.
Starting point is 01:54:41 We know Josh Norris. Yeah. What's his Twitter? Is he? At Josh Norris. Is. What's his Twitter? Is he? At Josh Norris. Is Chuck Norris still alive? Yeah, he's never dying. Yeah, dude. Welcome back to PMS After Hours.
Starting point is 01:54:54 Hell yeah. We, you know, relax a little bit more. Kick it. Today's show, hey, Brendan Bean was really good today, AJ. Unreal. I'm going to go back and watch it. He's just like, I feel like he's just talking to us. You know, it's not like an angle.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Like, what's the angle? It's not an angle. He's not scared. He's not, like, scared, is he, to give answers? He doesn't have to sit there and think about it and give cliches? I ask him about Belichick. I ask him about what other teams are doing. I ask him about, like, things that are called, like, bad deals out there.
Starting point is 01:55:21 Like, he just handled it all. You know, like a human. Like, a human would, which I appreciate. Most GMs would probably probably come on or a lot of gms i would say probably come on and be scared to death you're gonna ask them something they don't want to talk about tom telesco was tom telesco came on did the same thing i was gonna say like the washington thing like i feel like most guys like after that come out would just kind of skim over that and act like it's not a big deal and he was openly like oh yeah yeah i I'm not going to forget that shit. You know, like he gets it. I feel like a lot of guys probably would
Starting point is 01:55:47 have tried to deflect a little bit. I did try to get him to trade Josh Allen. Yeah. I think that was a bit too. I thought I had him close. I was reeling. If you give me a good two, three, four, five, six more hours. Well, now you have Matt Ryan as new trade bait, so maybe
Starting point is 01:56:03 that thought has changed. That was big by the Colts, though, to get the Falcons to eat that $40 million cap. I'm sure the Falcons wanted the Colts to eat some of it, didn't they? No, that was just dead space. It's not the act. We still got to eat 28 or whatever. Man. Big contract. That was, yeah, that was dead money.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Yeah, yeah. He's getting paid a lot of money. Yeah. He deserves it. He's a fucking hell of, yeah. He's getting paid a lot of money. Yeah. He deserves it. He's a fucking hell of a player. He's a great player. For who was left, though, isn't... I mean, he's...
Starting point is 01:56:34 The best. Yeah. What are we even talking about? Chris Ballard doesn't have to go to pro days and say, get over here, Bo. Hold that fucking ball. Damn fucking hands. Doesn't have to do any of that.
Starting point is 01:56:43 You know what I mean? Doesn't have to worry whether or not the guy's going to come in and be a fit. Doesn't have have to do any of that you know what I mean doesn't have to worry whether or not the guy's gonna come in and be a fit doesn't have to worry about any of that it's like hey Matt Ryan
Starting point is 01:56:49 is a game man he is gonna come in he's gonna lead he's gonna have respect I assume of the locker room and he's gonna work you know
Starting point is 01:56:58 that's Matty Ice I agree but aren't you gonna want to get your hands on him get him here in the Thunderdome see
Starting point is 01:57:02 I don't know how Matt Ryan feels about us remember I questioned his Hail Mary ability. That was only one time. A couple times, my brother. He'll be fully healthy for the whole offseason, just like Frank wanted. Carson came in, and you questioned him a lot more.
Starting point is 01:57:17 Yeah, but Carson's out there running the Bobcat. I was going to say, he got his head so far up his ass out there hunting. He doesn't know what's going on. It's not up his ass. It's out in the woods. Have you seen that picture with him? What's that? Got his head so far up his ass out there, you know, hunting. He doesn't know what's going on. It's not up his ass. It's out in the woods. Wow. Have you seen that picture with him? What's that? Have you seen the picture when he killed like a thousand ducks?
Starting point is 01:57:30 Was that all by him? Yeah, Mike Trout. That's unbelievable. That's a good dog to go out there and get those ducks. Just to pin them all up on this shed or wherever he was kneeling in front of. I was like, that would take a long time. Yeah, the way they set all those up when I see those photos, I'm like, oh, you guys have been setting up for instance, doing things for the gram for a long time. Yeah, the way they set all those up when I see those photos, I'm like, oh, you guys have been setting up for instance, doing things for the gram for
Starting point is 01:57:47 a long time. Like those photos have been set up that way for a long time. Oh, yeah. Especially if you're successful out there. Didn't you go, didn't you go on one of those, you pay like $800,000 and you get to go kill a lion? Didn't you do one of those? Yeah, yeah. That's something I would do. I was a dentist.
Starting point is 01:58:06 Oh, yeah. Dentist in Minnesota do I was a dentist Oh yeah, dentist in Minnesota Yeah, yeah That guy, his gig was almost done Yeah, not me The, um I went on a hog hunt I went on a hog hunt down in Louisiana Those things ruin the fucking earth though No, they're a rat
Starting point is 01:58:21 They're a problem Yeah, you gotta kill them Feral hogs No, we didn't kill them We just caught them and we gave it to somebody else Oh, really? They probably a problem. You gotta kill them. Feral hogs. No, we didn't kill them. We just caught them and we gave it to somebody else. Oh, really? They probably killed them though.
Starting point is 01:58:28 You gotta shoot them from a helicopter. Nope. See, I'm down there in the woods. Just me and a couple dogs. You know, those dogs, by the way.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Yeah. Pitbulls. Schlegel has like five of them. Oh, really? He goes hog hunting out there? But he, Schlegel kills them with a knife, though. He didn't bring a gun.
Starting point is 01:58:47 He stabs them. I mean, that's fucking... He sold that package on the cruise many, many times where you go on a hog hunt with Schlegel down in Texas. He has a couple of dogs. They grab their legs. You jump on them, slice the neck, take them home. Jesus. Grill them, feed them to the homeless people.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Schlegel does it all the time. Yeah, okay. Good guy. So, all right to the homeless people. Schlage does it all the time. Yeah, okay. Good guy. All right, thanks, Drew. Did he get retained? And also, did he have to inform Urban Meyer who Aaron Donald was? Dude, what is this?
Starting point is 01:59:15 There's reports coming out about this guy being the biggest fucking doofus. I haven't read that whole story. You guys read the whole thing? Oh, yeah. We read a lot of it, yeah. Because, I mean, once one clip of the article got sent into the group, there was a lot of, like, go on. And then there was, oh, yeah, he doesn't know who 99 is of the LA Rams. He's going to be a problem, huh, that guy?
Starting point is 01:59:31 Yeah, he's a little bit of a problem. Where did he go, like Michigan or something? No, he went to the University of Pittsburgh. Oh, that's a small school or whatever. It's like that's what he was talking. He was acting as if these guys in the NFL had mattered. There's another alleged statement from him talking about these guys in the nfl it mattered he there's another alleged uh statement from him talking about the guys from the south and their transcripts like basically being too dumb
Starting point is 01:59:49 allegedly and uh wide receivers not running the right routes he was wrong they were running the right routes he was saying that publicly burying people i mean there was this thing is not great for the urban meyer era it was actually called the most toxic environment uh some one person has ever been around. And, you know, we could have never told from the outside. You know, we could never tell that was the case. But, man, there's a lot of anonymous sources and other sources coming out telling stories that are just like, yeah, it was unprofessional. It was terrible. It was not everything that you would hate in an NFL building.
Starting point is 02:00:20 I assume he has his side of the thing as well. Truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. But that was a failure, an absolutely abysmal failure. Yep. I'd say, where does he go from here? Well, he's working for, uh, the board guys doing like, he's like on a, like the NIL deal situation. He's part of deal. Anytime you use the word deal, I don't know how it works, but yeah, he's like on the board of that. right? What are your thoughts on the NIL deal? What do you think? What do you mean? The one that he's a part of? Well, just any of the NIL deals
Starting point is 02:00:50 that people are a part of. It is funny that all of that is happening, and it's almost like we don't... It's so different. We weren't allowed... If I went to Waffle House and someone tried to pick up my $6 check, I could be suspended again when I was playing for that. If I let a stranger pick up my meal, now you get a million dollars before you step on campus and like it's just how it is now it's
Starting point is 02:01:09 crazy how it just all of a sudden bam one day it changed and here we are yeah well hey listen good for axel all right here we go good for axel but it does stink for like uh i think about players that would have really like pat white we had him on the show he would have cashed in so big and if he got a hundred dollars for a bar tab and somebody reported it he could be suspended for a fucking game because of it it's like get get out of this dude just built this entire town and he can't even this guy can't get somebody else to pay for his beers all right i'll get a loan out then for forty thousand dollars i'll do it fuck it that's what i did you know what i mean the nil deal hopefully i would have found somebody to at least sell a car for to give me 40 grand at least in there i mean there's just the basketball thought i had this weekend so real like i was watching just some no-name school saint peter's
Starting point is 02:01:55 like going around like that looks like so much fun yeah so we could technically just hire a really good basketball coach right you just assume wait what school though who gives a fuck university whatever okay because in this thing the march madison doesn't matter right you any school from good basketball coach, right? You just assume. Wait, what school though? Who gives a fuck university? Whatever. Okay. Because in this thing, the March Madness, it doesn't matter. Any school from any level can basically get in on this, it feels like. I might be wrong. You just got to win your D1 tournament, right? Yeah, you go to some small school.
Starting point is 02:02:15 We just get enough money to pay five really good kids a million bucks each. Win a conference tournament, boom, you're in. We're in tournament. Now we're dancing. We're giving speeches. Yeah. Oh my God. It would be so much fun. Because that's probably what some teams are doing, I'd assume, right? Let's do it at Pepperdine. Huh?
Starting point is 02:02:30 Let's do it at Pepperdine. Oh, my God. That would be so much fun. How nice it is out there. High point. We could win the WAC for sure. And then we're in dance. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:38 All right. We'll do that for five, ten years. Hell, yeah. God, we're doing it. We're going dancing. I'm pumped. We just started college. Oh, my God. We're going dancing. Well'm pumped. We just started college. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:02:45 We're going dancing. Well, it might take a while to get D1 accreditation. Yeah. We can probably get into the poop one. What's up poop? Yeah, the CBI.
Starting point is 02:02:51 Poopy one might butt you in. We don't want to go to the CBI. We want to win the fucking dance. Did you see Huggy Bear on the desk? He was good. Yeah, he was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:03 What's your eyes? I didn't see it. It's just like, I don't know why they do that when it's like, this guy is so fucking disinterested in what's going on here. I get that's kind of like his personality, but it's just like, Jesus Christ, I mean, what the hell is he doing up there?
Starting point is 02:03:17 He's selling the program. Yeah, he's really selling the program, the product. I tell you what, back to the drawing board on that crew next year. Come on. Wait, what crew? Who is it? All due respect. All due respect, but there's a lot of time that they're on TV.
Starting point is 02:03:32 Let's get back to the drawing board. I wasn't seeing enough Wally Zersbiak this year, and I need more of him. He's a big handsome white. The A crew with Wally and Charles. Right. And Ernie. Ty loves Rex Chapman. Yeah, the A crew with Wally and Charles. And Ernie.
Starting point is 02:03:47 Ty loves Rex Chapman. Listen, AJ, we knew that's where you wanted to get to. Yeah, exactly. What's the controversy with it? I honestly don't know anything about it. I just know people are pissed for some reason. Oh, yeah. I just know people are pissed. I didn't look into what the words were saying, but I just.
Starting point is 02:04:01 Well, it's kind of like it's funny and it's enjoyable when guys like Chuck and Kenny clearly have no fucking idea who any of these guys are, because they're doing the NBA all year. Can't have the fucking B team not knowing anything that's going on either, okay? Because that's not as endearing. It's like, Jesus Christ, we couldn't find anyone who knows what the fuck they're talking about
Starting point is 02:04:19 up here? Hey, Rex, good on Twitter. Great on Twitter. I wasn't wearing a mask during the coverage either. Well, what state was it? I don't think it depends on what state he's in. He's pushing double mask, double vax anywhere he goes. Oh, so this
Starting point is 02:04:35 is why. Alright. He was going to have to bat a thousand not to eat some, huh? I haven't seen his Twitter account in some time, but it did appear whenever I was searching through his name on the Internet. People were impressed that he became a full-blown politician and doctor and everything, and then was also able to call college basketball. Has he been going after people?
Starting point is 02:04:55 Is that why people are happy to pile on? Does he go after people? Oh, yeah. I think so, yeah. Quite a move from block or charge. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's a good show. I guess he pronounced somebody dead on the air the other night
Starting point is 02:05:07 who works at CBS still alive. Rest in peace to Coach. Did they come back and respond like the next segment? Like, hey, this guy's alive? I don't know if they did. The internet did, though. The internet was not exactly thrilled with him doing that. Interesting path he took.
Starting point is 02:05:21 TV's tough. Hey, listen, TV's tough. It was not good. He lives on Twitter, though, right? So he's got to see it all. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, he sees. That's what I think about.
Starting point is 02:05:34 Because when I stink terribly at something and I know it, I'm like, I'm on Twitter a lot. This is going to become something. This is going to become something. So whenever we have a bad show, which is every single day, but some shows worse than others, I like get genuinely upset. I'm like, man, Twitter's about to be terrible. But I deserve it. I'll stay
Starting point is 02:05:52 off it for the night, I guess. I love it. I think about like, if I was to wake up and my name's trending and everybody's attacking me, basically, that would be a tough day. Yeah, that would suck. But hey. You might like it. You might like that people are talking about them. Yeah suck but hey you might like it you might like that people are talking about them yeah but also when you sign up to get dropped in front of somebody
Starting point is 02:06:09 else's audience you know you got to do that yeah like whenever i go do smackdown like all right there might be some there might be some people that absolutely hate me because i'm getting dropped into their audience right our show we don't even market this show people just kind of end up here so it's like hey like you don't like it, fucking keep it moving. But whenever I get dropped into somebody else's show, I'm always like, all right, probably going to take some shrapnel today. People are not going to like me. I'm going to have to get through it. It's going to be a tough wave.
Starting point is 02:06:36 I'll get through it. Then we'll get to the other side. And that's what happens when you get on like this college. Everybody on earth is watching this, you know. So Rex Chapman is now being introduced to a lot of people that either aren't on Twitter or are on Twitter and already know Rex Chapman. And that is something that there's a chance you're going to get murdered. And it felt like Twitter was doing that this weekend.
Starting point is 02:06:55 Took it on the shins. Maybe you just got to mute every word. That's a good idea. Or just don't do it. Ladies and gentlemen, this is something we have been waiting for all day. It is NHL trade deadline day. Ain't that right? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:11 Go boys. And the greatest organization in professional sports, the Pittsburgh Penguins have made a move. Getting Ricard Raquel. What? Dick Rackle's coming in? Yeah, you're goddamn right, Dick Rackle. This dude knows how to play hockey.
Starting point is 02:07:26 Now, the Ducks are a squad that everybody likes. What position does he play, Pat? Huh? What position? Dick Rackle is a fucking winger, bro. Get out of here, bro. He is a goal-scoring machine. We're talking about a guy that can fit in on any line.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Hard worker, too. Scrappy if you need him. If he's going third line, he'll fucking go all the way into the boards, pal. He ain't afraid of the Pittsburgh blue-collar-ness. The Pittsburgh Penguins franchise and program has high expectations, and Dick Rackle fucking loves all of it. He is the perfect Penguin. We just got better.
Starting point is 02:07:58 Let's go to the hockey expert. Your guys' team fucking stink. You're not doing anything. What? Nick Moraldo, what does this mean for the Pittsburgh Penguins, pal? Hey, a good decision was made. Nick Rackle's a pen. Pat, you absolutely nailed it.
Starting point is 02:08:12 He's going to be slotted in on second line, riding shotgun with Evgeny Malkin. He's playing the left wing, former 30-goal scorer, former first-round pick. This guy can play. We got a guy. Hey, you guys stink. Your team stinks.
Starting point is 02:08:24 No, you win, pal. That's a bad photo. He's normally got an A on his chest, too. We got a guy. You guys stink. Your team stinks. No, you wish, pal. Your team stinks. That's a bad photo. He's normally got an A on his chest, too. Yeah, goddamn right. That's because he's got cement in his skates. He stinks now, pal. No, he doesn't.
Starting point is 02:08:32 He's on second line. He doesn't have to fly around. He seems to be tough at a goal score. You guys team stinks. Hey, show that hair. Please, one more time. Great job. Boom.
Starting point is 02:08:39 Are you fucking kidding me? He's on our team, not on yours. You guys stink. I don't care. If Weeks is not fucking breaking the trade, then it's not a fucking big trade. Thank you. Dick Raggle, he can probably go back to the fucking AHL for all I care. He ain't going back
Starting point is 02:08:52 to AHL. He's going right to Lord Stanley's Cup. This beautiful Swedish man will be hoisting Lord Stanley come this summer. He will be partying at Mario's Pool with all the boys. That a big dick. I doubt it. Bees haven't done anything. Bees got the fucking best defenseman in the goddamn league. Also from the Anaheim Ducks, pal.
Starting point is 02:09:07 This is Gabe Morenci. I'll be honest. If the Golden Knights don't make a big move today, I might be done. They did not. They actually got rid of a guy. Oh, Stoner's gone. Stop. Okay, stop.
Starting point is 02:09:21 They would never. Original Stoner or new Stoner? Jackie Aces is fucking softer than McDonald's ice cream. Whoa! I hate to say it, but that's the guy we put all the fucking chips in for? If they don't make the playoffs, I'm done. What'd you say, AJ? I said, didn't he have, like, his neck fused together?
Starting point is 02:09:38 Yeah, boo-hoo hockey players are fucking tough, okay? Get past it. Score some fucking goals. Ty wants to take that hat off. Come to the Pens, pal. Come on. We got fucking Rackle. Dude, we're making plays.
Starting point is 02:09:48 Why are you a Vegas fan, Ty? What do you mean? I mean, the fucking franchise that captured everyone's hearts and minds when they came on as an expansion team and went to the Stanley Cup. I was in there from day one. They go on a storybook run to the Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 02:10:02 What, am I going to fucking renounce my fanhood? Absolutely not. Your fanhood has been all glitz and glamour though It really has And I don't like it at all Stoner hasn't played in fucking six months And we're getting whispered sweet nothings About hey Stoner might be coming back
Starting point is 02:10:17 From long term IR Where's he at? His fucking back's broken still Yikes Well good luck to this bat. Hope it comes back together. And shout out to the Pens making a play on NHL trade deadline. We got better.
Starting point is 02:10:31 You guys got worse. That's not true. That's not true. I told you. We got the fucking best defenseman in the league right now. It's still Stank. So do you, Fox. Shout out, Fox.
Starting point is 02:10:40 He's not even close to the best defenseman in the league. The Red Wings made a trade. They got one of their better defensemen. Got rid of him? Yeah. Selling a trade deadline. It's a rebound. You guys fucking stink.
Starting point is 02:10:51 It's Red Wings hockey. And we fucking stink. It's always a rebound. That's what we all think. We'll be winning the cup before the Pens do. I guarantee it. That's a guarantee. Before this summer?
Starting point is 02:11:04 Good luck, pal. No. Give us the next five years. We'll have way more cups before the Pens do. I guarantee it. That's a guarantee. Before this summer? Good luck, pal. No. Give us the next five years. We'll have way more cups than the Pens. No. Five years? Three out of the five. You might not be the best.
Starting point is 02:11:12 Next 75 years, man. We'll fucking figure it back out like it was the original six times and we were actually irrelevant. You guys are just mad. It's not hockey time. All right. That's a show, dude. Great for the Pens.
Starting point is 02:11:22 Thanks for all you guys. No, we're good. All right. You guys have a great one. We'll see you, Mignogna. AJ, you were great today. Thank you, pal. Yeah, thank you, pal. Big thanks to Mark Titus and Brandon Bean for stopping by and all you for watching. We're back tomorrow with big news, huh? Big news. Huge.
Starting point is 02:11:38 See you then, bud. Thank you. We'll be right back. Thank you. Thank you. Outro Music Thank you.

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