The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 623 - Tyreek Hill Traded To The Dolphins, Paddy "The Baddy" Pimblett, Gene Steratore, Kirk Cousins, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 23, 2022

Today's show is absolutely LOADED. Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys react to the news that Tyreek Hill has officially been traded to the Miami Dolphins for a 1st, 2nd, and 4th pick in the 2022 NFL Draft and a 4th and 6th round pick in 2023, how crazy this offseason has been, if we'll see more players asking for trades in the coming weeks, everything else happening in the NFL, and how electric the Eagles concert that Pat went to last night was. Joining the program fresh off a first round submission win this weekend, is UFC Lightweight Superstar, Paddy "The Baddy" Pimblett to chat about this weekend's win, his rising star in the UFC, when he see's himself competing for a title shot, how much he binges after a fight, when we'll see him in the Octagon next, and more (5:08-33:37). Next, the greatest referee of all-time, current NFL and NCAA Basketball rules analyst for CBS Sports, Gene Steratore joins Pat and AJ to chat about his career as a referee, how he's liking his new gig, his thoughts on today's referee, what it takes to call a game in those massive environments, if he ever has the itch to still ref, and more in an incredible conversation (1:06:12-1:32:55). Later, 3x Pro Bowler and current Quarterback of the Minnesota Vikings, Kirk Cousins joins the progrum to chat about his new contract extension, his relationship with Adam Thielen and Justin Jefferson, what it's going to take to get the Vikings over the hump next year, his conversations with a new GM and Head Coach, at what point in his career he knew he'd be able to be a consistent starting Quarterback in the league, and more (1:32:57-2:00:11). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is, oh shit, this is the most wild NFL offseason of all time. Wednesday, March 23rd, 2022. This sports show begins right now. Can't thank you enough for joining us here at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. All the boys are here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Connor holding down the toxic table. I appreciate you, boys. Appreciate you, Pat.

Appreciate you, boys. One half of the hammer, Don Cowboys, Tone Diggs is here. Sup, I appreciate you, boys. Appreciate you, pal. Appreciate you, boys. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys. Tone Diggs is here. Sup, dude? Sup, dude? Chiefs are dead.

All right, let's dive right into it. News broke this morning that really struck us all by surprise. Tyreek Hill has been given the okay to seek a trade away from the Kansas City Chiefs. Yes, none of us knew this was happening. No, none of us could have expected this. What the hell is going on in the NFL? Russell Wilson, traded. Devontae Adams, traded.

How you doing? Keep it moving. Deshaun Watson, traded. Now Tyreek Hill, in my eyes, as somebody who had the punter ball to him and as somebody that has watched him play football now a lot like you guys, they're on national television, the most explosive player to ever come into the NFL. I understand Randy Moss, best wide receiver of all time. Randy Moss did things that nobody else did.

Randy Moss also 6'4", fucking just freak show. He'd take the top off of anybody, do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted. I understand Jerry Rice, very, very good. Tyreek Hill, though, the way he has been used by Andy Reid, he is an always-on, electrifying wide receiver. He's running two miles before the play even starts, okay? Before the play even starts, he's running gassers back and forth. And whoever has to cover him, not only do they have to keep up with the guy that runs a fucking probably on field 4-2 but they also have to

keep up with him cardio wise and somehow this guy's body's been able to be faster than everybody more durable than everybody hasn't blown out any muscles and he's also tough he takes hits and everything like that and he's in shape he is a guy that if you get him on your team you'd get him on your team and you would think that the Kansas City Chiefs would understand that, hey, we got Tyreek Hill. We got Travis Kelsey. These motherfuckers don't have enough people. We can beat whoever, whenever, however. Even though Patrick Mahomes is unbelievable, I think whenever you take Tyreek Hill out of there,

you're going to see a little bit of a drop off and a little bit of a difference on how people play you. I might be wrong. I'm not as high of a football IQ person as Andy Reid, obviously. But this dude is who I assume a lot of teams are just finding out about being available or who they're going to want on their team. Now, granted, it's supposed to be a first and a second rounder to trade for Tyreek Hill, depending upon which reports you listen to. Early reports said they wanted two firsts.

My first response immediately upon hearing that is, nobody's going to spend two firsts on a wide receiver. Then the internet followed up. Andrew Brandt said, nobody's going to spend two first rounders for a wide receiver. Then the internet said, hey, those who are saying it's two first rounders, not accurate.

It's actually going to be a first and a second is what they think it's going to take to get Tyreek Hill. But once again, we don't know shit about fuck until it actually happens. Allegedly, the Dolphins and the Jets are the two favorites to get Tyreek Hill. But once again, we don't know shit about fuck until it actually happens. Allegedly, the Dolphins and the Jets are the two favorites to get Tyreek Hill. At Bubba Gumpino, diehard Miami Dolphins fan, you guys get a new coach.

You got a quarterback that they're saying, hey, this is our quarterback. You get a backup in Teddy Bridgewater, who's awesome. You got Waddle, obviously. You got Devontae down there. Now you potentially get Tyreek Hill. There's two that are going to be able to get him to rock Gumpy? Ham and Waddle

run wild. We got Armstead O-line now. I mean, if we get it done, come on. We'll win the Super Bowl in March. Let's go. Okay, so we talked to Chris Bowd yesterday, Indianapolis coach, general manager, and he said, obviously, Super Bowls are won in a two-week span in March. And he said that to us, I think, last

year, too, whenever the hype of the free agency is insane. But this particular year, the big names are moving. Tyreek Hill is an immediate game changer. He changes the math, right? You hear, like, Darius Butler or any of the people in the defensive talk. It changes the math, changes the math. We don't have enough motherfuckers to cover this guy, that guy, because we've got to have at least three sets of eyes on this son of a bitch

because he's faster than fucking everybody. Go ahead, dude. As soon as the show started, Schefter tweeted that the Jets and Dolphins both now have the trades in place. They're just waiting on Tyreek Hill to decide, and basically he is torn. A lot of people underneath commenting the 10% tax rate in Jersey. I mean, he could leave in New York, too, or the 0% in Florida. Nobody lives in New York to place for the Giants or Jets, I don't think. Okay, so Jersey then would be the 10%. I think they all live in Jersey. I mean, he could leave in New York, too, or the 0% in Florida. Nobody lives in New York to play for the Giants or Jets, I don't think. Okay, so Jersey then would be the 10%.

I think they all live in Jersey. That's quite a broad brush I just painted. I assume somebody lived in the city, but I do believe a massive amount of them live in New Jersey, because that's where everything is, the Meadowlands and everything. Commute into New York for date night, night, everything like that.

But no state tax, and you're in Miami. Mike McDaniel seems to be one of the coolest dudes of all time. Not that Bob Sala isn't. What if the Dolphins just make all these fucking plays? That's wild. Congrats to you on your patience for 30 years. Wow. There we go, Gull.

I still don't know why he's a Colt. Let's transition out of the NFL, although a lot more will happen today, we assume. Is Tyreek Hill going to be on the move today? We will keep an eye and an ear to the ground on all of that. Now we get a chance to get joined by one of the most electrifying characters in all of sports. Oh, yeah. Somebody that we were introduced to whenever there was no crowd in the fucking UFC.

A guy that came out, dominated, talked shit in an incredible accent. And then we all said, said holy hell who the fuck is this guy patty the baddie who is patty the baddie then we heard the noise get made then we heard all the side stuff we said this guy's hysterical this guy's a badass this guy's seasoned and he says to dana what you get us in the o2 we'll blow the roof off the gaff we We said, what the fuck is a gaff? It's a house. He did just that. First round sub this past weekend. Now I believe he's in a food coma and hopefully taking care of his LCL.

Ladies and gentlemen, the next face of the fight game, Paddy the Batty Pit. What's up, dude? What's up, man? How are we, the fellas? What's going down? Hey, am I allowed to say scouser? Is that something like only Liverpool people are allowed to say? No, you can

say it if you want, but it's Scousers not Scousers. Okay, Scousers. There you go. Hey, are you the toughest Scouser of all time or is this just a natural thing for Scousers to be badass humans? We're just all badass to be fair, but

there's a lot of fighters from this city, like, a lot of fighters. How'd you get into it originally? You were fighting on the street, and then people said, hey, you should start training, or have you always been mixed martial arts badass? I just started doing MMA when I was 15, and was good at it. So, continued to train.

We talked about, uh, we watched him talk during your fight, okay? And it was interesting. It was a quick fight, obviously. First round. Torn LCL. Ain't nothing to a Scouser. It's always going to be entertaining whenever you fight. But we heard them talk and they said,

everybody thinks Patty's like a bomb thrower and like knocks people out. He's like, this dude is a jujitsu master on the mat. I don't think a lot of us knew that because we're kind of getting introduced to you. Is that something that you have always been better at have you been a bomb thrower or you kind of got both of them that's why you're the next fighter in this whole game yeah well years ago i was just a grappler no one i mean i had to evolve my game and become a striker also that's why in my first ufc fight i wanted to show everyone my striking because a lot of people were just calling me a grappler that's why I said he's getting knocked out.

And that's why this fight didn't really matter. They said he's getting finished in the first. They don't know when I knock him out or submit him because just whatever comes.

And I just took whatever came and it was his neck. You just, hey, when you got his back and you're just drumming his face, like it literally, and I'm not a fighter and I know nothing about it,

but we could almost see you saying, you're going to give me your fucking chin at some point. All right? Just give me it. You had your legs completely. I mean, I've never seen somebody more comfortable just completely locked in around that fucking guy like a goddamn boa. And then you're playing drums on his face. And it's like, hey, you're going to give me this chin at some point. And then as soon as you locked in, it's over, it's over.

And then you go bananas. And I think the fact that you go bananas is why we all love you so much. Before that fight, okay? Oh, Patty the Patty. Oh, Patty the Patty. And you're fucking high-fiving everybody. You're dancing around. You're doing that whole thing

and then moments before the fight started you like you flipped the switch you flipped the switch and you became like this locked in human being is that how you are every fight are you always loose and then once the cage gets in there you become a maniac or is that just natural for you yeah that's just that's just what i do like i enjoy the walkout. The walkout's boss. I love jumping up and down and getting the crowd going. That's what I was born to do. But once the cave door's shut, it's only you and him in there. So you need to keep your eyes on him and get worrying about him. Until you've won, that's when you need to forget about the crowd

until you've won. Is there any intimidation that happens in there from you to him or him to you before the fight? Are you trying to do mental games at all all or is it just you doing your thing? Yeah, you probably could be saying you're trying to use a mental game to be honest. Yeah, but you just know once everyone gets out the cage, it's just you and him in there. It's you and him having a fist fight. You haven't really got to worry about anyone else.

So if you wanted to get a little advantage doing that, then yeah. But I just say it as I want to punch you on it didn't I hey he said that you thought you weren't serious

enough to be in the fight yeah I'm assuming you've heard that forever have you always been this carefree and joyful and do you see this being for

you for the rest of your life yeah this is me forever like I can't help it I just enjoy fighting with people it sounds mad to say

but I enjoy getting punched and punching people in the head, even though I hardly punched them in the head. I kicked them more. Hey, Paddy, right before they announced you as the winner, one of the funniest things of all time, and it kind of got lost in all of it because you jumped over, dapped up Dana White, you did the whole thing. Right before they said you're a winner,

you did this shrug smile to the camera yeah it was awesome i i started laughing so hard my wife dying laughing you were beloved by everybody have you talked to dana since the fight and has he thanked you for everything you've brought to the fight game because you are different than everybody everybody it feels like no i haven't I haven't. I haven't spoke to him since the fight, since I jumped over and whispered in his ear. He's probably back in America now,

but I'm hoping to be back in America in the next few weeks. So you never know. I could end up bumping into him again. What did you whisper in his ear? That's definitely another 50 grand for me. I'm never in a boring fight. Were you surprised you weren't one of the

co-main events? No, because Arnold Allen's on, he's on a now fight Wednesday now and Tom Aspinall's the heavyweight main event. I gathered that, to be honest,

I knew it wouldn't be. But I'm just made up for them two as well, getting the win, made up for Molly getting the win and it was a big night for UK MMA in general.

Hey, the building showed up too. The fans were fucking awesome, Paddy. That's a swell way. Imagine when you come to Liverpool. Imagine when you actually come to Liverpool. Is that London? That's not my hometown. Hey, those people were all there for you?

Yeah, of course they was. I heard I was so confused course they was. I heard. I was so confused. I was watching the fight. I actually put out a tweet, and you wouldn't have seen this, obviously, but a lot of people did. I said, hey, can somebody let me know when Patty's fight is? Like, when is Patty's fight?

I literally just tweeted that out. And they're like, it should be around 530. I'm like, oh, so that must be the end of this thing. So then I go over at 530, and know the math of the time six hours i think five it can fuck i'm too dumb for that but i literally turn on a fight and they're like after the thing they're like oh there's more fights after this i was like whoa whoa whoa whoa what is the deal i thought you were going to be the the show stopper i understand a guy did a great job but the fans throughout the entire night were banana lands you said let's go to anfield why

do you think dana's going to do more European fights after how the fans showed up and how the night went? Yeah, 100%. He's going to come back to the UK before the end of the year. I know he is.

And that probably will be the main event. How about that guy that called you out? What's that all about? Hand sanitizer, boy. Who do you mean mean give him his due lad he looked good

he did but he got it with that head kick hard if I hit him with that head kick lad he doesn't recover

I take his back and choke him dead fast but you never know could end up fighting him in the future

for now let them 1-0 up lad I bounce the hand sanitiser off his head and he doesn't know anything about it.

Oh my God. Okay, so let's move. You are the guy that everybody's calling out now. Is that interesting? Because you've probably been the guy hunting for a long time. Hunting now. Now you've become the guy with a bullseye on your back. And you said, the lion doesn't concern himself with the opinion of the sheep. are the line in this game your mane by the way is fantastic

the hair is fantastic the only person you called out was instagram i think and you didn't call lizards this time but you called them the biggest bullies of all time are you still battling with instagram what's that all about yeah three weeks before me fight, my new account got disabled on 920,000 followers. Why? What did you do? Do you bully people on there? What do you do? Because I put a video of a young boy who's three and he's got a disease, he's dying, you know what I mean? And I brought him on the stage with me at the UFC weigh-in and some piece of shit commented something horrible about him. So I reported the comments. Instagram didn't remove the comments.

So I then went in on one of them saying, you're a piece of dog shit. My account got took off me the next day for calling him a piece of dog shit. Isn't that bullshit? Hey, isn't that, isn't that it? Because that person who's a nobody can say something. And if you respond, you're not professional, you're violating policies, everything like that? It's an absolute disgrace.

So that's why I had that to say about Zuckerberg. He is the biggest bully on the planet. He's took my livelihood away from me. My platform that I use to help people with mental health and charities and little kids go for me pages, they've took that away from me. But, you know, it's all right because they're still earning money how old are you patty 27 you have this joy about you dude it is it is awesome to watch why do you think that is you just enjoy every moment of your life do you try not to like uh you know focus on any of the bad

shit why do you think you are such a positive person in a combat sport because i'm just not like everyone else you know what i mean everyone else has to conform to one way or the other like they'll try and be certain or not where i'm just me if anyone ever wanted me to be anything else they wouldn't i'd just be weird because i'm just me i don't try and put on any act I don't try and do any indifference and I think people can just see how much of a genuine person I am and that's what throws them to me

and the fact that I go wild when I win yeah how do you not though right in that moment whenever you do the shrug is it like everything I've worked my ass off all the dieting I've done where by the way we've seen you hey you cleaned some shit up here last night. I think I saw you with a couple

burgers, some pizza, some wings. An entire thing. You actually said, I'm going into a food... I'm going to get a little fat. You said, me going to get a little... The last Sunday night, Monday night, Tuesday night I've ended up in a food coma. Three nights on the bounce. The missus isn't happy. Hey, when you're retired,

hey, when you retire, you're going to be like 300, 400 pounds or what? Yeah, when I retire, I'm moving over to America. I'm just going to eat pure fucking all sorts. Yeah, look, that was last night. I ate my burger, a portion of chips, and a full portion of them wings. And then before, there was another half a portion of wings left and half of my beard's wrapped, so I had my beard wrapped and the wings when I got back from my run.

Hey, congrats on enjoying life. Hell yeah. But how long is the fight camp? How long is the diet? What is the training like getting ready for that fight that ended in? That fight was like 10 weeks or something, which is mad because for 10 weeks, I eat like a monk. I've got to train like a monk and then all everything else

I don't go out, have a bevy, don't do nothing and then literally I weigh in at 155 and then now it's Wednesday and I'm about 188 or something. How long does it take for you to get back down in the 10 weeks? Does it go quick?

Are you back in shape? Yeah, I get back down in the 10 weeks? Does it go quick? Like, are you back in shape? Yeah, I get back down to 77 in about four or five weeks. And then from there, I just maintain and slowly get my weight down because I still do like 10 pounds in water. What happened to your LCO? What is your LCO? That's one of the ligaments, obviously. You tore that in practice?

Yeah, I popped it the other week when I was wrestling with Chase, and it popped. And obviously, I just got the other week when I was wrestling with Chase, and it popped. And obviously, I just got on with it, but later on that day, I couldn't walk properly. It was three weeks out, and then on the Friday, I had to work around it. I just had to take lots of anti-inflammatories and not do much on it for a little week.

And then it went down. Did it worry you at all? I'm still injured now now but i just crack on that we're not we're not bitches did that worry you at all or no i've done it before i've done it before leading into a fight i'm like hyper mobile meat flexibility is quite weird so me popping stuff's quite normal are you gonna get surgery on that to get fixed or is it just gonna heal itself because you're yeah i Yeah, I'll let that heal up. When is your next fight, you think?

I guess you haven't talked to Dana. You said you're coming back to America in a couple weeks. I think the whole world would like to see you back in there. But, hey, for the right fucking price, Paddy. Make sure it's for the right price. Yeah, of course. I'm hoping we get concept renegotiating after this one because I proved how much I'm worth the other night with the crowd there. Yeah, and it's been reported you made $12,000 to show up, $12,000 for the win,

and then a $50,000 bonus. You don't have to tell us if those are accurate numbers or not, but are you negotiating those or do you have an agent negotiating with those? Yeah, my manager's doing it for me. He's always got my best interest at heart, so I'll always have him doing it for me. Hey, I think Dana knows now. It has to. I don't know how he didn't before.

I think we all knew. Honestly, when I turned that fight on, I thought you were the fucking main event. I thought it was the last fight. I'm like, all right, this is awesome. How do we go from here? And then I'm like, we've got two more fights left. I'm like, what the fuck?

How is that even possible? What was it like afterwards? The party, the bevvies, pretty heavy? It was quality, to be honest. I'll just say I'm more about my food than my drink. So I had one alcoholic drink and then just ordered loads of wings and burgers and that. I was starving, lads.

Absolutely Hank Marvin. You and Meatball Molly just fucking destroy a restaurant? Molly was drinking alcohol raw, lads. She was drinking it raw and she just runs around on one and then I'm just sitting there with me bager. You two trained together. Big friends, good friends.

How long have you known each other? About 10 years. 10 years. Long time. What was that song you guys were singing in the locker room before? It looked like the most peaceful locker room of all time. You two started singing that song. It was like the greatest promo video I've seen.

What was that song? That's our mates from Liverpool, my mate Jamie Webster. That's his song, to be honest. Weekend in Paradise, I think it was, we were singing. But he's got two albums out, so we have his tunes on all the time. Last question from me before the boys have them. Justice for 90... The 97.

97. Okay, so I've heard 96 and 97. I tried to look up what it was. Something happened where there still has been... It was 96, but then someone, another person, I think it was last year, succumbed to their injuries. Yeah, last year. So it's the 97 now.

What is that? So for the Americans that don't know, because obviously it was something that the entire arena was singing alongside of you and you're a very passionate person, good person. It had to be something. I looked into it a little bit. I don't think I fully understood what it was though.

Like over 30 years ago now, I wasn't even alive at the time because of like police errors at a stadium, bad communication between the police. They let too many fans in and they used to have big metal fences at the front and where there were too many fans in there, people got crushed against the fences.

People suffocated and died and stuff. For a while after it, Liverpool fans got the blame. There were papers reporting that we were pickpocketing, well, fans were pickpocketing well fans were pickpocketing dead people on the floor and pissing on them and that

like you're ordinating on them so that's another reason why I say we don't buy this one because in our city we don't that paper

tried to make us look like disgust and toe rags and some of the well a lot of the country believed at first the establishment

worked against us but you never keep a scout at the end, lad. And we come back with a vengeance. Hey, thanks for taking a stand for that and opening that up for a lot of people. Because I honestly looked it up and I'm like, man, this guy seems to be the perfect fucking human.

He's happy, he beats people's ass, seems to take care of people, and now he's screaming for something that's happened before he was even alive. Hey, Paddy, you're a fucking awesome guy. I hope you know that. I mean, you eat a lot of food, you beat the fuck out of people you're an awesome dude though i hope you know that we you have massive amount of fans everywhere go ahead ty

patty as your notoriety and like your star increases have you thought about you know like obviously everyone just immediately compares you to being like connor mcgregor like are there guys that you want to call out or that you have your eye on or is it really just like a hey whoever they put in front of me for the time being, I'm just going to continue to beat their ass? Is there anyone you're kind of eyeing up that you'd like to fight coming up? No, it really is genuinely for me, whoever they put in front of me. I don't care.

I'll fight anyone. But make sure what I'm getting paid is worth what I'm getting paid to fight this person. It's a business now. It's a business now. It's a business now. This isn't back whenever you're selling out fucking arenas, Paddy. Think about that. I know you've talked about it a lot. I think the reason why I like you so much and I put out a tweet that I'm so happy for this dude,

a lot of people talk. A lot of people talk. A lot of people talk. You talk, hey, I'm the new face of the fight game. With your incredible accent, you actually say it and it's like, talk, hey, I'm the new face of the fight game, you know, with your incredible accent you actually say, and it's like, oh, shit, I like the moxie on this guy. And then you go and just bury people. It is, not a lot of people can do both.

Like, not a lot of people can do, you're a special fucking human, Paddy. That's just me, that's what I always say. I was put on this earth to do this, fight people and entertain people. I'm just good at it people say they're drawn to me and i've got that effect and that's sad that's boss lad it's nice to hear because i'm just being myself hey you used to be known as a grappler now you worked on your

fighting is there anything you got to continue to work on right now or you feel like you're the best fighter you can be no that's where that's how i fucked up years ago i was thinking i was the best and I was only 21. You get better every single day in the gym training, so I'll be back in the gym next few days working my ass off again, lads. I'll get better. Hey, that's a miserable profession,

that training. It is so tiring. So tiring. I mean, the cardio is exhausting and you're also eating punches. People are doing everything. You love every part of it huh yeah the way the part i hate the most is the diet and that's a fact that's what i hate the most about this this sport in general diet will you ever go up a weight class no i'm too small for that weight class but uh in the future when i get a bit older and I am a bit

more naturally bigger as well and yeah maybe but for now I'm a 155er what's the goal what's the goal for you in this entire thing

just to become the greatest of all time yeah because I do this for legacy I don't do it for fame or fortune I got into this sport

just to show them how good I am let's get some fortune though yeah that comes with the charity. Go ahead, Connor.

Paddy, do you have a mental timeline of when you want to fight for the title? Do you think that's something that'll happen before the year's out or is that almost something... No, I'm not realistic, lad. That's going to be like a 2025 thing or something. How come? Just take it one step at a time.

I will say, especially now, the way my money is, lad, if I'm fighting for this amount of money, then I don't want to fight anywhere near for the title yet. I want to be getting paid championship money before I even fight for the title. That's smart, by the way, because you're bringing championship sales. Hey, that guy hits you with the... I mean, Bisping asked you about a bunch.

And by the way, Bisping, I don't know enough about him. A lot of respect though. Massive respect. He does well. But all he talked about and all the people talked about is, oh, he caught you early. He caught him early with a punch. That wasn't expected. That's why the entire thing went to the ground, basically. I think the last time we talked to you, you

said when you get punched in the face, it wakes you up. Did that happen in that fight? Yeah. As we said, Paul said to me as we went back in the back see that what did i say can you because i said to paul i think we're gonna have to start getting paul to punch me in the back before i walk out yeah that's what i was about to say can we stop that can we change that a little bit or no that's where i'd have to get a proper slap across the face or something just to wake me up because i do it all the time, lad. It does me on, Adam, but it's one of them, lad.

It makes the fight even better. Because without that, lad, that would have just been a little takedown, domination on top for a minute and then a submission like it was anyway. But I got the crowd going first, lad. Got their hearts sinking. Yeah, you got mine. I mean, I was watching like, oh shit, dude, what's going on? And then I remembered, I literally

remembered you saying, no, I gotta get punched in me face to wake up or whatever. I'm like, what a fucking specimen you are. Was there any moment you were worried or out or close? No. When you stumbled there there was, it was just like, oh shit, didn't expect that to come. There was never a worry. Yeah, no, like, that's something else

I do a lot as well. I shoot a stupid, sloppy single leg takedown lad i always do it say like someone catches me with a punch in a fight i'll lean against the cage and then push off the cage and do it that's where like i let people push me to the cage too much that's what i need to work on but like the takedown was fucking disgraceful lad and so disappointed in myself like something like when he asked me about my performance, it was like, bad of five, bad of ten. Because that wasn't a good performance. That, personally, I just got to win.

Hey, don't. Hey, you got to win, dude. All right? Listen, you can watch film. You can get better. Let's not get crazy. As soon as that thing went to the ground, that's when I think we all learned

that you were an incredible grappler and a jujitsu guy. I was like, no, Patty, this is where Patty wants to be. This is exactly where it was. I'm like, really? I didn't fucking know that you were an incredible grappler and a jujitsu guy I was like no patty this is where patty wants to be this is exactly what I'm like really I didn't fucking know that and literally look your legs so far wrapped that's like that's like teach tape right like hey try to get your legs wrapped around as close as possible and then just play drums on his cheeks literally you just play drums on his cheeks and then you choke him out there was never a doubt huh you were in complete control that entire time on the ground?

Yeah, I knew that was coming, lad. As soon as I got on top of him, like, if you watch it, I think within, yeah, it's like from the moment I get on top, it's like 50 seconds until I submit him. You know what I mean? I knew it was going to be like that as soon as he'd give

me his back. That's what we said. If you're probably on my vlogs it'll be on with ellis ellison paul to say your party will end up on top you'll vagas or make a mistake and give us back and that's it party will capitalize from there and that's exactly what happened is that how you planned is that like every fight you have a game plan on how you can beat said person like this one you probably knew was going to end up in a sub or no but we yeah that was what we said before and it's more than likely going to be a submission this one and i'll probably end up taking his back because he gives you his back

how's your cardio you were just incredible cardio you didn't look tired at all ever and you celebrate like the wasted energy people call it you do it all i used to be bad you know what i mean when i used to cut a lot of weight to make 145. But ever since I moved up to 55 and started working with my S&C coach and nutritionist now, Paul Reed, my cardio is perfect. Did you just burp up a burger right there in the middle of your sentence? Yeah, mid-sentence daily. Hey, what's on the menu for today? Well, I'm just eating some Galaxy Chocolate now.

What is that? Galaxy Chocolate? Galaxy. Got caramel in the middle. Oh, nice. Milk chocolate there or dark chocolate? No, milk and then these are the Maltese at Truffles. Hey, so today's a sweets

day? Oh, God. Today's a sweets day. Except for those 10 weeks that you've got to fight somebody. I came home and the missus had all that. Just there. Oh, yes. Congrats on the win. With a gaff, lad. Oh, yes! Congrats on the win!

Oh! Look at that egg! So that's like the European Reese's. Oh! Let's go, dude! Oh! Donuts!

Let's go! Big Cat just saw that oneuts. Let's go, Big Cat just saw that one banana. Let's go. These are heavy. These cookies, get on these. Oh, my God. These are heavy. Oh, my God.

Is that chocolate chip there? Yeah, I think they're heavy. And then it's the L-cheese cake. Oh! Yeah! heavy and then he's like and then it's the L cheesecake is that all today or is that just in the next few days or whenever you get to it this is next few days next few days oh my god man I love you

I think that is something I'm an eater as well I'm a bad eater lad I'm terrible for it like I eat too much no you don't you fucking eat and then for 10 weeks you don't

you beat people up in front of thousands and thousands of people then you eat again you're doing just fine you're doing just fine that is that's a good ratio there

you're right that's what I do I get fat yeah yeah and then you get 10 weeks you get thin and you become a fighting machine

then you kill people then you don't man it is so we used to have to do that for weed right so like for the NFL we get tested for weed everybody's got to stop smoking

for like a month you just have to stop eating for two and a half months you know and then you're off and running that is what I have to do get off that you little bastard who's that dog?

what is that dog? What is that, dog? Yeah, eating me wrappers. What type of dog do you have? An XL Bulldog, yes. Lenny? Who's that? Sit! Who's that, Lenny?

Just starts to eat the rappers and that. No, get away from the donuts, Al. That's amazing. You know, the next time we talk to you, I assume you'll have a whole new gaffe, by the way. You'll have a whole new gaffe. You know, the missus will be able to stuff it with even more donuts. Go ahead, Tone.

Patty, you dropped the Hank Marvin Sarvin earlier, and obviously we know bees is money and Barney Rubble is trouble do you have any other favourite slang terms that you could drop on us lad no waff I'm terrible when you put me on the spot like this well there's ones like apple and pear

I'm trying to think off the top of my head Well, there's ones like Apple and Pears. I'm trying to think off the top of my head. Oh, I'll let me mind go blank. Sorry, fella. Don't worry about it, man. This has been a great conversation. We're very proud of you. We're very happy for you, as is the rest of the world.

Keep killing it, bub. Thank you very much to fellas. There's no doubt that I'll see you again in the next couple of months when someone else gets their head punched in. Okay, let's go. Whenever they lose, whenever you beat somebody else's ass, we'll get to chat with you. You'll be in the middle of another food coma, hopefully. Yeah, with my cheeks looking like this again.

Hey, enjoy your riches, sir. You deserve it. Thank you very much, my man. Ladies and gentlemen, the new face of the fight game, Patty the Batty. His refrigerator was awesome oh my god those donuts he's hank marvin that is literally i don't know what that means you see you you see he dropped the hank marvin because he said he was hank marvin barney rubble trouble hank marvin starving got it

okay sorry put it together sorry put it together here we go go. That's the most relatable thing I've seen. Yeah. It's unbelievable. Because I gain like 30 pounds every offseason. I mean, that was literally how I did because I enjoyed eating. Now, granted, as I got older, I had to change that. I assume something will transition, but I love that dude. And he is electrifying. That is interesting, him saying that he's too small for the next weight up because he said his walk- around weight is like 177 so he must be he's losing like 20 plus pounds every single fight camp that's crazy well that's the thing that i think like us noobs and outsiders look at like

a 10 pound advantage is yeah massive massive especially in the grappling game and everything like that that's why whenever somebody was champion of both i think connor that's why i think it was so well you know received because it, hey, this is very difficult to do this. Either the weight cut to get down to the lower weight and still have enough stamina and energy to do it or to fight against the heavier guy. It's unbelievable. Hey, shout out to Patty. Shout out to Patty.

All right, back to the NFL now. There is a Tyreek Hill update. Ladies and gentlemen, I believe it is official. Tyreek Hill is getting traded to the Miami Dolphins. The return is a first-round pick and more, while Hill will get a contract extension that puts him among the highest-paid wide receivers in the NFL. That's via Ian Rappaport and Tom Pelissero.

The Dolphins are making plays. Just yesterday, I believe they spent five years, $75 million on Armstead, the tackle to bring him down to Miami. They bring in, obviously, Mike McDaniel out of San Francisco to become their new head coach. Now they get the most explosive wide receiver in the league on a trade for a first

round pick and more, whatever that is. Full picks. 2022, one, two, four, and then a fourth and a sixth in next year. That's a lot, by the way. A one, a two, and a four this year. A four and a six next year. They get Tyreek Hill.

Tua gets another weapon. And Mike McDaniel says, hey, we're bringing in Armstead. We're bringing in Tyreek Hill. We ain't fucking around anymore. Tua's our starter, okay? That's the first time we've ever said that publicly. And we're going to go ahead and win this thing. Gumpy, congrats to the Doll fam.

Fins up. Here we go. Fins are up right now. Real erect. Fins are real erect right now. This is awesome. I never thought we'd get this from the Fins. This is great. Why do you think this is happening, honestly? Do you think it's because of all the shit that was happening to old Cousy whenever he was allegedly paying people to lose and now he's like,

we got to flip that script. And Mike McDaniel's like, yeah, I'll get out of the film room here for like two minutes. We can get Tyreek Hill. Let's get Tyreek Hill. Think about Mike McDaniel being presented with like the opportunity to potentially get...

Coach, we've heard Tyreek Hill's available. Who? Coach, Tyreek Hill. From the Chiefs? Yeah. Yeah, we want... We would like him on our team. What do they want? They want a one, a two,

a four, a four, and a six. Great. Send that thing the fuck out of here. Mike McDaniel's brain is cooking right now. Oh, I can get Tyreek Hill to do. Remember, they had old cuzzy go in motion on the Niners in the run game, left tackle. Trent Williams.

Yeah, they had Trent Williams going in motion, all right, on a run. They bring in Armstead, who's a monster, but also that pre-snap movement that the Niners do and that the Chiefs do. Now he has Tyreek Hill that he can just fucking move and waddle and Armstead he can move. I mean, it is just

I am pumped to watch the Dolphins play football next year. I am pumped to see Mike McDaniel's press conferences before games and after games about why he did what he did. Tyreek Hill was tracked today to run 14 miles pre-snap. What are your thoughts? That's a lot of miles.

But when he does that, nobody else can do that. So he's always open. I can't fucking wait to see what they do down there. Now, he's supposed to be a Colt, maybe a Packer. I mean, there's a lot of places that really would have benefited from Tyreek Hill's services, but God damn, the Miami Dolphins all of a sudden. Good for the Chiefs, too. I mean, that's a massive haul in return.

It really is. Tyreek Hill, obviously, is unbelievable, but six picks, even if a couple of them are four and six, that does seem just crazy. Is it six or five? Did I do the math wrong? No, it's five. You're right. It's five.

Yeah, because you're much smarter than I am. The first rounder is the 29th overall, so it's a late first rounder. Oh, so it's a second, a second, a fourth, a fourth, and a sixth. I'm on Gumpy's side here. I understand that's a hole, but I am very much a fuck them picks guy. Because, I mean, they'll get somebody good. And obviously Andy Reid has a big brain and Veach has a big brain and they'll be able to figure it out.

But I don't understand how this happened. Because allegedly the Chiefs had made Tyreek Hill an offer to make him the highest paid wide receiver and he said no, right? And he said, no, I don't want to do it, whatever. It was like his decision not to resign there and basically move on, and they granted him a right to seek a trade, and then the Jets and Dolphins came in, and now he's a Dolphin. What the fuck happened, right?

What did happen? Was it Devontae Adams? It had to be Devontae, right? Yeah, but the Chiefs allegedly, now we don't know what's real and what isn't. They allegedly made him an offer to make him the highest-paid wide receiver. Before the trade? Yeah, I thought I saw a report today that as soon as the Devontae numbers came out, they then realized that they had to put him on the trade market.

This was what someone tweeted. I can't remember who it was. So they had basically a conversation about an extension before Devontae Adams was traded. Yeah. Then when Devontae Adams was traded, it was like, what, 140? Yeah, 42 and a half or something. But what was it actually? Do we remember what it was like, what, 140? Yeah, 42 and a half or something. But what was it actually? Do we remember what it was actually?

What, three? It's like 28 per, I think. Yeah, 28 and a half. Three years. Yeah. A lot of guaranteed money. So then Tyreek Hill immediately goes, oh, that's fun. That is what we're looking for.

And then Chiefs go, well, we've got to pay Patrick like $50 million next year. Because remember, we kicked the can down the road. We can't do that. And Tyreek Hill said, well, I'm going to need to get my money, right? I mean, you guys got me running marathons every single fucking game. At some point, I'm going to have to get paid. And they said, on the road, see you later. Yeah.

And then Tyron Matthew put out a tweet, right? Didn't Tyron Matthew put out a tweet? Yeah. Like, after the trade was announced. He put out a tweet that said, when egos run wild, contain yours. Oh. Yeah. Oh, man.

Oh. It's heating up. It is heating up over there. He put out a tweet that said, when egos run wild, contain yours. Oh, man. Oh, it's heating up. It is heating up over there. Adam Schefter has now reported the Tyreek Hill numbers. Dolphins are giving wide receiver Tyreek Hill a four-year, $120 million extension, including $72.2 million guaranteed. Wow. Hey, congrats to Tyreek Hill.

Congrats to the Dolphins. What are the Chiefs going to look like? I know they signed Juju for a one-year $10.75 million deal. They still got Travis Kelsey. They still got McCole Hardman, right? They got Patrick Mahomes. They got that revamped offensive line. The Chiefs probably said, hey, we're going to be okay, but it's a much different game plan whenever you're playing for a team with Tyreek Hill

than when you're playing for a team that doesn't have Tyreek Hill. And I think the Chiefs are going to learn that next year. I might be wrong. Chiefs will probably still be dominant and be able to do whatever they want to do. But, God damn, what a game changer going to Miami. Yeah, the Chiefs have MVS coming to town today. So that's probably the most likely. So what does that mean?

I mean, just another. No disrespect to MVS. I don't think that's like it. No. Yeah, those tweets were kind of phrasing it like, oh, they No disrespect to MVS. I don't think that's like it. Yeah, those tweets were kind of phrasing it like, oh, they're bringing in MVS. So they don't need Tyree Kill anymore. And like you said, I think this team is much different if Tyree Kill's not there. Well, and no offense to MVS, right? This is just like when Odell Beckham Jr. got to L.A.

And they're like, oh, Robert Woods got hurt. Odell Beckham Jr. will be able to go in there. It's like two different? Two different positions. Tyreek Hill plays his own position. His own position is called Joystick Madden Game, where you just run the guy around and he's fashioning everybody. And then there's three people around him and he just

somehow does a spin and he wouldn't even be tackled in flag football somehow by NFL athletes. What a game changer. Mike, I want to see Mike McDaniel's brain right now. Yeah, it's going to be. Just on the dry erase board. Wow.

We're going to call this play Wild Play. Let's call it Wild Play. It's the Andy Gilfinakis thing. Hey, nailed it. Yeah. Hey. Millinakis. No, no, no.

He's talking about Zach Galifianakis. Zach Galifianakis, yeah. You're talking about Zach Galifianakis. Yeah. You're talking about the question thing? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no. He's talking about Zach Alphanasky. Zach Alphanasky. You're talking about Zach Alphanasky. Yeah, at the Blackjack table. You're talking about the question thing? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whenever he was cooking at the Blackjack table.

Waddle set the record, right, for most catches by a rookie last year. Those two together. Plus, they have Devontae Parker and Gusecki, and they signed running backs, Edmonds and Mostert. I mean, plus they got the guard from the Cowboys. Still good. Defense is great. Xavier and Howard on one side. And Tua.

I mean, me and Mike McDaniel were finishing each other's sentences. Sandwich sentences. Not sandwiches, sentences. It was COVID still. Come on, I want to get that guy sick. He's got to build a fucking team. He's going to draft for our trade for Tyreek Hill in a couple weeks. But talk about Tua's accuracy.

The amount of like, oh, my God. Yeah. Look at Gumpy right now. He's glowing. Fucking grinning like the butcher's dog, dude. Let's fucking go. He looks like Tomlin and Colbert watching Malik Willis hit that 68-yard ball cross body off balance yesterday.

That was pretty. Man, how much fun is it that your team's doing it? Huh? Honestly, how much fun is that? All in. All in. Fuck it. All in. Why not? Huh? Honestly, how much fun is that? All in. All in. Fuck it. All in.

Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not you? Fuck it. No excuses for Tua anymore. No, this is it. This is what I said.

I said, get him an O-line and weapons. We'll see who he is. And real quick, Tua has been under the most mental siege I've ever seen a starting quarterback be under. Getting benched during two-minute drills and games that he started. He started in an announcement that was made in the public and the incumbent starter, who's a guy who's beloved by everybody, openly said he was sad and not happy about it.

That immediately splits a locker room. He's been put into an absolute dumpster fire numerous times. Now there's allegations coming out about how serious the dumpster fire was yeah they said he wasn't hurt at all then he missed the game turned out he had fractured ribs i mean the things that tua has been through off the field just mentally has had to have calloused him up and i think if you watch when two is playing and he has time he hits i mean he's oh yeah oh yeah it's a little bit undersized he's not the only quarterback in the history of the n NFL that's been undersized.

Mike McDaniel is going to be drawing that thing up. Plus, with the run game that they had at San Fran and everywhere else, Atlanta and everything, what's going on? Nothing, nothing, nothing. You're shaking your head. No, it just came to my mind why this happened. Why? When Jackson put out that story that him and Juju were going to be doing TikToks together,

Tyreek Hill said, get me the fuck out of here. All right, let's get to a break. I was excited about it. I was excited about the Jackson and Juju. Still happening. The collab, yeah. Thank you. Everyone's excited.

Can't wait. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. 10 million views. Yeah. What if they throw like a, awesome. Oh, yeah. 10 million views. Yeah. What if they throw like a, someone throws an oop and then a hoop. So you throw oop, then hoop, and then somebody. Oop. Oop.

Oh, my God. Brittany Mahomes. Oh. Now, Brittany probably gets the rebound. Oh, yeah. Passes the outlet. Gets it again. And then she gets lifted up.

You know, like, and then she. Boom. Yeah. And then they get a bottle, and they find the poppers. Yep. And they spray them everywhere. Right in their eyeballs. See, I'm excited about that.

I can see how Tyreek Hill maybe said, I can't. You're going to have to pay me more than Devontae's making if you're going to make me have to sit through that every single day. Good for him. This is awesome. I mean, you know, you're hoping, like, the Packers were in, but they were never going to be in this, really. But this is awesome, seeing these guys just to be like, eh, fuck it, I want to leave.

Yeah, you know what? Nah, trade me, dude. I want to go to South Beach. Kansas City, the barbecue's great. People are fantastic. Hey, it's been fun to be a part of the Hum of the Chiefs. But also, South Beach,

I've heard. Yeah, it's nice. Pretty good stuff. People are miserable down there, though. In me and Foxy's experience. Really? They're miserable humans.

They make fun of us. People are fighting each other on the streets these days, too. Oh, losing teeth. Yeah, I heard about that. Show your face challenge going on down in Miami

right now. Only saw one person participate in it, but that challenge will get going. Miami's insane right now. That's where everybody moved during the COVID thing. Now they've got a team maybe again. The Bills

are very good at football. Very good. Very good at football. They're not stopping either. They brought in Von Miller. They're spending money. Are the Patriots dead? Well, you know, wouldn't it be the first time they were declared dead and wouldn't it be the first time they weren't? Valid. This NFL offseason has been absolutely fan-fucking-tastic. Yeah. time they were declared dead and wouldn't be the first time they weren't valid this nfl off season has been absolutely fantastic yeah thank you off season thank you players saying i won't play

here anymore joining us now is a um super bowl champion college football national champion. Ryder Cup champion. Survivor of COVID. Father of 10. Ohio State legend. The best jawline in all of sports. Aaron James Hawk. AJ, AJ, let's run through this real quick, and I can't wait to hear your thoughts. Russell Wilson traded to the Denver Broncos.

Devontae Adams traded to the Las Vegas Raiders. Deshaun Watson traded to the Cleveland Braves. Matt Ryan traded to the Indianapolis Colts. Now, Tyreek Hill traded to the Miami Dolphins. This is fucking banana land. Hey, these are big name players just on the move. They got contracts left. They're saying, get me out of here. I want to go somewhere else. This has been an insane off season, AJ Hawk. It's been crazy. It's awesome. It's fun to be a part of it. It's fun to be here every day and

get a chance to actually try to analyze why it's happening. Also, what do people that are just casual fans that maybe don't watch a whole lot of offseason stuff but they they tune in and watch their favorite teams play during the regular season i think there's a lot of people like that that may be a bit surprised when they turn around you look hey my our best player isn't here anymore or maybe hey we just picked up a guy that's a stud i know from talking to people out like at kids practices they ask me about oh what do you think of deshaun watson whatever and then when you mention all the other stuff that's happened they're like wait what wait like they have no clue all the different things happening today is just another day of that well because people kind of live in their silos is what you're saying i think they only

pay attention to what uh is happening around them the russell wilson domino to denver we thought that was holy shit that happened on the same day where Aaron, by the way, decided to go back to the Green Bay Packers. We're like, wow, this is the biggest day of this offseason. Like, this is huge. Like, this is a big day. And then all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, $230 million guaranteed going to Cleveland.

Who knows how that worked? Matt Ryan's now quarterback somewhere else. I mean, it's just, it's a nonstop. Devontae Adams says goodbye to the Packers. It's a nonstop. davante adams says goodbye to the bat it's a non-stop just it's insane right now and this is the um you know it's kind of been like this in the nba i think and it was mentioned earlier by one of the boys when we were sitting around the kitchen uh chatting about all this do you remember when the nba denied chris paul's trade request from like new orleans to la or whatever they're like nah you can't do that i still don't know how that happens but yeah yeah yeah i don't know how they can how can they deny it they say like you're

going to create a monopoly is that like they're trying to step in yeah but then it became like trade city team super team build thing commissioner does the commissioner have all that power to stop a trade yeah david stern i guess at the time that that's what we're saying about good delta what if good dell after all this shit started happening, because you know the owners are going to be like, players are getting too much control. Players are doing everything. Which, by the way, owners do not want ever. Owners do not want any of that ever.

That's why the negotiation is always the way it is. That's why the way you hear some media people talk about players because they potentially have ends with the ownership and with the leagues. It's always a power struggle between who's in charge of what. And those who have the money always hope to be in charge of what they're running, even though it takes the players to make your product worth a fuck at all. But they always said, don't want this to be like the NBA. Don't want players to be on the move. That's what it is about the NFL.

You fall in love with the team and this and that whole thing. And those people are probably rolling over in their old-ass beds with their depends on saying, God damn, the NFL is starting to become what everything else is becoming, which is if somebody isn't happy, they're going to make a change now. That's the world almost, I think, AJ. Yeah, I mean, it's almost like is this like college football at the same time with the transfer portal?

Oh, a guy comes into town. He's there six months. He realizes I'm probably not going to start anytime soon. See you later. I'm going somewhere else. Are we looking at a similar thing? So the interesting thing about the transfer portal, and we talked about this, I feel like, responsibly,

because I feel like people should talk about it responsibly, especially if there's maybe some college football players that are watching. There's like 2,000 people in the transfer portal. There's 130 schools. Okay, so some people, and I think the option just to pick up your shit and leave is not one that should be completely forgotten about and I will say every single person I graduated with at West Virginia at one point or another in the first two years of being there if they had the ability to get up and fucking leave like that, we would have.

I mean, there was numerous breakfasts that we were all eating at. Like, fuck this shit. We ain't doing this. Let's get out of here. And I feel like probably the same way for you too, right? I mean. I know many guys that I played with that graduated and had great careers that at one point were thinking about leaving.

Yes. Yes. College football is difficult. It is very hard, especially when it becomes your entire life. In high school, you're a football player, okay train you have fun you have your trainer you have your leagues you have your seven on seven and once you get to college it's like you are now a college football player that has to appear at classes you have workouts at this time you have to do this at this time you have uh practice this time you have study sessions this time and we're going to check

it all these things to make sure you're there you become like a almost i mean you're tracked your entire life you're programmed they they program you once you get on campus exactly you become a programmed individual where every moment of your life is basically tracked and understood and it becomes very difficult especially when the workouts are the hardest workouts you have ever fucking done in your life like there's no reason my body should be able to do what we're doing. I guess this is a mental thing you're building up. There's a lot of moments of quit is what I'm saying in college football, I think. So the transfer portal being as easy as it is, I don't want to sound like an old person yelling at the clouds, but honestly, there's some moments you have to fucking get through, I think in life and the transfer portal might be

too easy of an out for some people. And I think they're going to miss out on some life lessons and some things that could potentially change them forever in a good way. Now, not to get too grandstandy here, that kind of, we're seeing that with like Baker, right? You can be who you can afford to be. You go to that transfer portal, you're a fucking guy, you're going to get signed.

You've got to know who you are. Like Baker said, I want to be traded. It's like the internet is full of anonymous sources. A lot of anonymous sources are like, cool. Where? We're not coming. We're not interested. You have to be absolutely 100% sure that you have other options.

If you demand a trade or you want something like that. Yeah, there's other options. The question is, what are people willing to give up to try to get you? And now, as every day goes, there's less and less opportunities of teams he can go to and be the starter. And that's the thing about the transfer portal, too. I think you have to know who the fuck you are before you sign up to go in there. Oh, yeah.

Hopefully, if you do go in the transfer portal, it's been something you've been thinking about for a while. You've talked over it with your coaches, your parents, whoever you you trust and you don't just all of a sudden one day just throw your name in there because you're mad i'll never forget i was standing like this you know just like this i've said just like this because if you bend over and touch your knees it's weak and you don't get enough air oh and you also get an extra sprint but believe me that was an entire thing too one time between me and a ga because I had my hands on my shirt, okay, like this here, you know. Give McAfee an extra one.

And I, you know, slow, excuse me, hands on knees. I'll give you another one. I'm like, they're clearly not, okay, clearly not on my fucking knees. I'm right here. You see the shirt. It's tight. Give them another one for talking back. I'm like, well, you're a fucking GA.

Okay. So I don't know who the fuck you think you are. That almost became an entire thing. And me and bar was, you know, afterwards we had a meeting of the minds, you know, it was,

that was, I was very passionate about that one. Me getting fucked over. And, uh, you know, borrow us as one of the scariest humans of all time. So McAfee,

you got four, I had four. You've never had four in your life. You got four. I'm like, well, that's because fuck boy, you know, and that's in front of the entire, you know, so like your bar was has to, you know, he has to stick up for his guy, you know, and I'm kind of in front of, you know, as I was a little wild, you know, I, I've always had a little bit.

He might have to take you aside and run you one-on-one after that. Yeah. So that's why I had to come back later in the afternoon. Yeah, I had to come back later in the afternoon. But he was with me the entire time. It was the stadium. Yeah, it was the stadium. But he was with me the entire time.

Barwiss was like, I understand what you were saying, but you can't fucking do that. You can't do that in front of everybody. You cannot fucking do that. So we're going to go. God damn, it's the middle of the season. It's the middle of the season. Jesus.

I'm the kicker and the punter and the kickoff guy, and my fucking mouth has got me running the goddamn stadium. It's like this is not what I'm supposed to be. Don't be messing. You're messing up the culture, man. One guy can have a negative impact. See, I disagree. That guy was fucking up the culture.

And that's actually what I told Burrows. I was like, Burrows, I've been here for fucking three years. Am I not like, I mean, I'm the guy. I'm a guy, right? People like me around here. Yeah, I'm'm like you got me on the fucking wall i think for some records right that guy's fucking that little fucking power hungry he's like you can't do that though like you know there's freshmen here watching there's there's new guys here you can't you can't be yelling at this guy in front of the entire team like i'm sorry but that was

bullshit i was tired and i did not want to run but there's a lot of those moments, you know, and now, like, if these star players are all just going to be like, nah,

I've decided I want to go elsewhere. If the, the owners are not going to be happy about that. Just like the salary cap, how, you know,

Tom Pellicero got a memo through his thing, to go on a good morning football and say, please debunk the myth that the salary cap is a myth.

Please, Tom Pellicero. So he went, and he sat down on good morning football, and he did an entire, the fact that it is being stated that the salary cap is a myth, he did a whole thing there. They're going to do the same thing, I assume, with this trade. They're going to figure out the salary cap loopholes that some of these teams are getting by because other owners are going to get pissed off that their team isn't doing it or they don't want to do it. They don't want to pay for that.

And then they're going to figure out this trade thing, too. I think. That's just how the NFL has operated since the beginning of time. If they don't like something, they're going to fucking change it. That's just how they've been. I mean, I absolutely see where you're going, but there's only a few people in the NFL that can kind of have

the power to do this, though. I mean, we've seen it. It's true superstars. Some middle-of-the-road guys can't do this. Matt Ryan? I mean, he was the MVP of the league at one point. That's what I'm saying, though. But would you have had Matt Ryan in that list of people just a week ago? If I would have said to you, hey, AJ,

people... Hey, Pat. What's up have said to you, hey, AJ. People. Hey, Pat. What's up, dude? How you doing, man? Great. What's your question? Well, you don't even want to ask me how I'm doing? Fuck you.

Yeah, how are you? Jesus Christ. I mean, I know you want to have a conversation. What are we doing? Is this a fucking interview or a convo, dude? I don't know. What is it? What is going on?

I don't know. I don't know what you're doing. I don't care. What is it? What is going on? I don't know. I don't know what you're doing. Listen, this conversation stinks. When I said, hey, AJ, and you did say, hey, AJ. Which part? Hold on. There's something going on. Did you hear the hyenas

cackling? There's rabid dogs running around in the hallway back there. While you were giving an answer, you're going to watch this back. We all want, like, I literally, what was, I heard an entire group of people laughing. I'm like, is somebody in the office? I think they're right behind that wall. Like, I believe the wall is, man, it's crazy.

Hope you guys are having a good time. Hope you guys are having a good time. Keep it down. Nah, do what you got to do. I mean, it's just a shit show going on in here. Anyways, hey, AJ. Hey, Pat, how are you? I'm pretty good mean, it's just a shit show going on in here. Anyways, hey, AJ. Hey, Pat. How are you?

I'm pretty good, man. How are you doing, man? Life good or what? Yeah, you had a question about Matt Ryan, I think. See, why are you forcing it all the time? Have a conversation, weirdo. Be a human, dude. All right.

Anyways, do you think if you were asked a week and a half ago or whenever the russell wilson trade happened was that two weeks ago yeah if you were asked two weeks ago hey uh aj there's going to be players over the next two weeks that are going to force their way out of the situation that they're in how many players because you just said you got to be a superstar to be able to how many players do you think you could do that i don't think i would have said more than like four people five people now it feels like like i don't want to say good players but great it feels like anybody can almost do it if they want if they have any worth at all like if you're pretty good at football if you were pretty good in the nfl i think you're going to be able to be able to do that not that that has happened and i'm not saying matt ryan pretty good or tyree kill

pretty good i'm saying those two are great football, but there's going to be a ripple effect to this entire thing as well, you know? Yeah, there is. I guess it makes me curious as to who all can get away with. Who else can we see become unhappy and force their way out? I don't know. It's a tough thing to do. It's Baker, and then it's all the way up to Russell Wilson. But they were moving on from Baker already, though.

We didn't know that, right? Because at the time he requested his trade, they were out on Deshaun Watson. He was potentially going to be their starter. You remember that? Yeah, but I feel like once they started that Deshaun exploring that option, Baker was already in the tank, and he was already done mentally. Well, yeah, and Browns, remember, said, we do not care. Remember that?

That's what the Browns said because they were out on the Deshaun Watson case, and then what? 13 hours later or something, $230 million guaranteed after Baker turned down a plane trip from the Haslam family to come talk to him in Texas. I mean, it's just – shout out to the boys, man. Where would you have wanted to go, AJ? Back to Cincinnati? You would say, trade me to Cincinnati? I want to go home?

No, I would probably just stay with a team that had a really, good quarterback aaron rogers oh they kicked you out yeah i didn't force my way out wait i didn't leave hey tyreek hill leaving is crazy isn't it or the chiefs absolutely and how fast this happened okay so we heard this morning that they granted his agent a request like he can he can go search for a trade was this last night was this a day ago when did it happen because then all of a sudden bam the deal is done well and also as soon as it was reported that he was allowed to seek a trade there was two teams already interested so this is kind of like was it tom telesco or brandon bean that told us that uh we there's a lot of things happening behind the scenes that we don't know about so is that because the insiders are told they can't leak that information or is it because the insiders actually don't know that it's happening and how much more shit is going on right now that we don't know about i mean i think

there's stuff that the insiders probably know there's like rumblings of they've heard okay i hear the chiefs are trying to lock tyreek up in long-term deal i hear it's not going well they're very far apart or whatever tyreek's upset at this that a lot of times stuff comes from agents and different people in the front office but yeah with how this happened, people had to know something was up. Do you think Bauer was in on this conversation yesterday? He might have been. He should have been. Because he was on the show, he wasn't in the combo?

He would have been great. Tyreek Hill, the Packers, could you imagine? Oh, man. Oh, my goodness. That would be awesome. Yeah, that's what I was thinking about the Colts this morning. Tyreek Hill to the Colts? Oh, my God, that would be awesome.

He's uncoverable. Think about Mike McDaniel. They had Trent Brown? Trent Williams. Trent Brown back to the Patriots. Yes. They had Trent Williams pull during their last couple games. You remember that?

One time they had the left tackle pull, kill a guy, bully a guy, they pick up the first down. Next time they fake it and they get a dive and they don't pick it up. But they still had this son of a bitch in motion. The amount of pre-snap motion that he'll be able to do with Tyreek Hill, because that's a big part of what the Chiefs do. Tyreek Hill is running. They track him every primetime game.

They're like, look at how far he ran before this ball was even snapped. And there's somebody on defense who did not prepare enough in the offseason for what they were about to fucking do. They're trying to keep up with Tyreek, and then inevitably they get caught up in some crossfire some humans or they just get fucking tired which could happen when you're chasing an actual cheetah and he's off they got waddle there hey they got they just signed armstead for fucking five years 75 million they're going all in it sounds like down there in miami they absolutely are and all this does i mean yes it reinforces all these weapons for tua but it also puts a giant amount of pressure on them even more than

he already had because hey if they don't if they're not good if their offense doesn't produce it's probably because of him that's what ted dick said yeah but they also have teddy bridgewater now so like if you don't it's not as if they don't have a plan b like they can definitely go with teddy b and probably still be very good teddy Teddy B making more money than Tua this year? Maybe. It's up to $10 million. Gun P, what's going on? You're shaking your head? Is that a little negative? We don't need to do this.

No, I just didn't know. Tua's super accurate. It's good. He's good to go. Don't worry about it. I agree. I like Tua. This is a pro Tua show. This has been the most pro Tua show, I think, out of all of his shows because we have talked ad nauseum about how miserable his experience as a starting quarterback for the Miami Dolphins has had to have been.

Yes. Also, how does Brian Flores feel right now with Miami getting all of these weapons, doing all of this stuff after what happened to him, I guess, or his whole situation there. Yeah, and I also brought that up in the first hour, not to bring up any more negativity with the Dolphins, because this is a glorious day, especially the signing of Armstead yesterday.

But, you know, the accusations of paying to lose there, and then the next offseason doing everything you can to make it look like you're not trying to overfix. No way. No, of course not. No, of course not. We're trying to overfix. No way. No, of course not. No, of course not. We're going to debunk it. Five years, $75 million.

Give this guy $120 million. Yeah, let's go. Let's go all in. Who else can we sign that makes it look like we really want to win? I'm not saying he's doing that, but you can see how some people would say that's what's going on. What's up, Tony? Teddy's making $6.5.

Two is making $8.2. All right, two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a starter. Two is a star. 2 is a star. 2 is a star. 2 is a star. We got Gene Steratore joining us in about seven minutes. I can't wait to talk to him, dude.

Oh, that dude's a star. He really is. Absolute star. Remember the index card? And he knew it, too, by the way. Put it back in his pocket. Big grin on his face. He is a – is he the perfect – is he the best ref of all time yeah i think so yeah and he's was

a great ref and then he comes in and he's able to explain it and he takes a stand he's not scared a lot of some of those refs that get called up during games they're kind of worried because all those other refs are their buddies you know so they don't want to say they got it wrong stare toward he i think he's you know he's a straight shooter. So here's an interesting thing. There's some, like I watch some punters, and I don't want to judge. Like there's some punts that get on the internet that are not good punts, but people are hyping them up. And I'm like, well, it's not my job to say like, hey, this person is not a, what the fuck?

Yeah, right. Someone getting their head put through the wall back there. So we had a construction break with SIGs right out here, I guess. No way. Where was I? SIGs inside. God damn it. I have to respect.

Save me one, boys. It's raining outside, so they had to smoke inside. Do these guys have the biggest sledgehammers on Earth, by the way? Are they pulling up tall? It sounds like they're going through tall right now. Any musicians back there? Oh, it's demo day. What was I talking about? God damn, that was one of the... My feet shook. The going through tile right now. Any musicians back there? Oh, it's demo day. What was I talking about?

God damn, that was one of the, my feet shook. The whole chair shook right here. They might be blowing out this fucking wall. What was I talking about? Sterator. Oh, Gene Sterator. Yeah, so some punters will hit, they'll put a video of a bad punt up on the internet.

And I'm like, well, it's not my job to judge this. I'm not going to say that wasn't a good punt because I didn't hit all perfect punts. I feel like Sterator is like the best ref. So when he comes out and he goes like, ah, I probably would have done this. I think all the other refs are like, yeah, the Sterator standard. He probably would have fucking done that. If you're like the best of all and everybody kind of views it that way, I think you're

much more comfortable to actually take a stand as opposed to some of these other refs that weren't good refs on the field. They get on. Well, they were. They were good refs. Well, Dean, like Blandino, I think Dean is great on TV. Dean was never a ref on the field, though. Yeah, he was just the head of officiating, which is fascinating. That is really weird.

So how are you the head of officiating, but you've never done that? Is he... Blandino? Came off of Jerry Jones' bus down there at Combine. He's working. Hey, Blandino's shaking hands, but I think Blandino did Blandino? Blandino. Came off of Jerry Jones' bus down there at Combine. Exactly. There's a chance.

He's working. Hey, Blandino's shaking hands. But I think Blandino did a great job, and he does a great job on TV. But I think some of those refs that go up in there that have been on the field, I don't think they have enough confidence that they have not fucked up in the same fashion. So they're not going to bury the person. Like, hey, I've been in this position. I messed up.

I don't remember Sterator being a part of a game where people are like oh sterator screw fucked it all up i might be wrong i assume it did happen but he always had such smooth control and his games were always just like so that's what we care about we just want that like the refs like we they should show that hey you're a professional and you are in charge of this game the game is not like it's not crazy for you it's not chaotic you don't have to huddle up every four seconds and change a call. And I think Gene was a great like field commander as a ref. A guy who stopped that in a very heavy fashion. The greatest referee in the history of officiating Western Pennsylvania.

Paisano CBS officiating analyst, ladies and gentlemen, Gene Steratore. Hey, Gene! How you doing, Gene? Howdy, Mac. What's going on, my man? It's great to hear your voice again. Hey, Gene, I fucking love you, dude. We all love you. AJ Hawk over there as well.

We sang your praises right before you came on, and AJ talked about i think we all did you always seem to be incredibly cool on the field very consistent you always had your crew in control it felt like you were a good communicator with the players how come you're one of one in that why does every other ref suck gene what is the deal i could say this to you pat we always get better once we retire you know what mean? Because there's never any more misses after that. So I always love game day, right? I mean, as a kid, you know what it's like when you wake up and it's game day morning.

And I think that's probably why I refereed, you know, 80 basketball games in a full NFL schedule because it was game day five days out of the week. And, you know, everybody's in a great mood on game day you know and it's that environment and just everybody like hyped and ready to play and and it just put me in that moment and felt great and let's face it man I got to do it for 40 years of my life you know I got to play on fields and courts it was you know it's the best and now I get the same kind of feeling in the studio with CBS. You know, it's fantastic.

Well, let's talk about it, Gene. Did you always know you were going to be a ref? Because I think the issue now is there's not a lot of people that want to be refs, I don't think, anymore. I don't think it's a desirable position. Did you always know you wanted to be a ref? You know what, Pat? Yeah, my dad. My dad refereed Division I football and basketball for 35 years, you know, my late father.

So we grew up in a house that uh you know we went to games i saw franco harris lidale mitchell steve smear mike reed on the field at state college you know as a little kid and and you know i was watching my dad you know who was a hell of a back judge and uh and a great player at pit and so we grew up in a home that understood officiating from the time we were born. You know, seven kids and everybody was a referee for trick-or-treat a couple times out of the year, you know, you put the jersey on.

It's a cheap way of getting a good jersey. But, yeah, I think we kind of knew it. You know, my older brother was a back judge for 20-plus years in the NFL, and it's in the family. You know, Cousin Frankie's going to this, you know, Sweet 16 in women's college basketball. Hey, what's up, Frankie? Frankie.

So, yeah, it's in the blood, you know. I got a younger son. My youngest, Andrew, working small college hoops right now. So it's something that was like it was a fabric of our family. And we understood the value and magnitude of it, I think. You know what I mean? Like there's a piece of this third team that has to be able not to just get the plays right, but be able to massage that 5% where, okay, technically is this a foul?

Yeah. But does it fit? Is there an advantage, disadvantage? Is there a piece of that play where it's affected or not affected and it's in that little nuanced place that i think that's you know that's what makes you a really good official and understanding at least when to play call and when not and then it's the whole other piece guys it's the emotion right it's the stress it's the emotion it's the uh it's the craziness that's out there and uh and just

loving that interaction because you know great athletes are competing at the highest level coaches are amped up at the highest level and uh feeling that calmness in that moment is addictive as hell i mean it's it's crazy addictive because that's what you you know that's what you do it's what you live for and, that's what you do. It's what you live for. And, you know, I was bitten by it and still am, you know what I mean? And with this position, there's still that, you know, unexpected, it's coming. You're watching four games at one time. Boom, you're in this game. You know, you got 40 seconds, scrub the play, rewind it, take a peek, you know, and then hearing all the things that the great people at CBS do behind the curtain, just to get you set, to cue you producers, people in the truck,

people in the studio, like the great guys you got there. You know what I mean? Like it takes so many interactive parts to do this five second window, 12 second hit, and then bam, you're gone into another location. So this has been an amazing bridge to cross and I'm grateful as hell to do it and loving every minute of it. You're great at it. Gene, are refs kind of like players to where some players, like the great ones, they want the ball in their hands

in the biggest moments when the game really matters? I'm sure great refs probably don't shy away from, hey, if they're the back judge, they want to make that call one way or the other or not make the call at the end of the game when it matters. Are some refs scared and don't want the ball coming their way they don't want to have to have any impact we're all different and you're right aj i think it the best example i could give you know you get the new official on your crew and uh and he's on the line of scrimmage for a kickoff right and now they're going on side uh does that official want

that onside kick going away from him or does he want it coming at him? You know what I mean? Listen, in this business, you're either the hunted or you're the hunter, right? And you've got to be the hunter. And in basketball, football, the two sports I worked, look, when you get to a certain level, and that level is when you are officiating people that do this for a living. So it's small college athletics. Those people, their lives are at stake.

Their jobs are at stake. Their location, their family. You become a very integral part of people's success and their livelihood. So there's great pressure right then. And you have to instill that in to every official, regardless of their personality makeup. You have to embrace that element. But you're supposed to get your plays right if you're that primary official on the play.

The nuance is how good of a secondary official are you going to be, right? There's a guy that makes a play or misses a play as a primary official. They call a block in the back on a punt return. And the official that's covering the play, he thinks it's a block in the back. Okay, well, there's two other officials that are moving to that play as it gets to that point and if they think that's a side block does that official that's a secondary by his position not going to get any stuff any crap for it if if he doesn't put his you know kind of hand in the play does that official come in and and grab that official real quick and say listen look at me let's talk about this for a minute rewind that play again so i look at officials like look when you're primary you don't get patted on the back for

getting your plays right that's why you're there but but how good of a secondary official are you right like are you willing to do that and i think the same applies look it applied for me when i played um that's how i think you value you know. And this is, look, most athletics that I ever did in my life was when I was reffing. You know what I mean? Keeping your body up to a standard to deal with world-class athletes on a night-in, night-out basis while Father Tom was winning. You know what I mean? Father Tom's undefeated, man. He's winning.

And when you're waking up at 50 years young and you know for the next four nights you're on a major college basketball court, you get a day break, and then you're on an NFL field, you've got to keep your physical body up. You've got to eat right. You've got to sleep right. You've got to study. You've got to read plays. You've got to watch trends, tendencies. It's the same thing that athletes do in that same capacity.

Gene, there is no way there's anybody else doing all that. You've got to be the only person doing it. Honestly, it's a problem. Hey, this is an epidemic right now. I understand we just went through an entire actual pandemic and everything like that, but if you talk to any fans in any league, Gene, any league, you go European soccer. I guess the NHL, they kind of have a natural, a little bit more give and take between the ref and the players.

I think there's actual shit talk. There's like a game flow part of it where it's like, hey, we got to make up for a call that we fucked up earlier. Like, I think that's more expected in hockey than anything else. But if you ask like NBA fans, NFL fans, college football, college basketball, it's like the reffing, the officiating is a problem. Do you think like you need to put together a steritor standard like a school or do you think there's guys that we just we don't like you think there's like another class that's going to come in and be a great batch of referees i i think i think the scrutiny of officiating is exponentially grown with the with the with the growth of social media with the instantaneous uh breakdown of everything

right i mean the whole world's that way we're all looking for that quick one-line hit or that thumb-up like or whatever it is so look that's happening so that's reality you got to face that officials now they're they're getting more training that the the ability to get video instantaneously and the way the supervisors interact with them. All of that's at a high level. That's a portion of the game. It's the management and how you handle what you said, right? Yeah, that's what this is.

Look, if we called a foul in every football game where it was technically a foul, we'd screw this up so bad you know you think we're hated now uh so there's that window right and it's the same as we're watching in hoops right now right one minute it's too physical now they're calling small change fouls on the other end um there's a there's a blending of this and uh and then there's a human element so listen the generation that's here now, that's the other thing. You know, we all got used to – when I first came in, it wasn't like everybody was open arms.

They wanted to know where Jerry Markbright went. You know what I mean? They wanted to know where that previous generation was. You grew up with these officials as coaches in college and more as players in the NFL because in college sports, they're here for two years, they're gone, coaches stay, those relationships stay. And now all of a sudden, there's like a new generation. I've told a lot of veteran coaches in college basketball, they're like, Gene, this is not the

same. And I'm like, congratulations, you know, your career has been so long, you've outlived another generation of officials. So you got to get used to that uh so there's a piece of that in there um but with that said you know i mean because the scrutiny's up the tv cameras are amazing the angles the hd the micromanage in every play is is the difference these guys and gals are under so much more pressure i think than i was when we started and it grew really through my 20 plus years i think it started to grow into more of that, right? So there's a give and take. But look, you've got to work to get better all the time. And because they're younger, a lot of them,

they haven't maybe had that experience in the reps. You know, I hear all the time, put younger people on the field. Guys that could run, you know, better athletes. You get all that stuff. Like, why are these old guys out there? In this business, you've got to work five or six years of college athletics you go to work another five or six years of small college athletics to be able to possibly be able to get to major college to manage this then you've got to live five

or six years in that level right you're gonna figure out do you have enough stones to throw a flag in a big house in front of a hundred thousand that's a different element there's a different element there's a human piece of that and then once you hopefully navigate that successfully listen i was in the big east when michael vick was doing magic at virginia tech right and miami was was resurging again through butch davis and and i think shoot i think shocky bubba franks kellen winslow is being recruited just at the tight end position at Miami. I worked their fall game, looked at my crew in August

when they just played each other and turned and looked at my guys before the season started. I said, we just worked the best football game in America. They were playing each other. There were 25 guys that went to the NFL in that team. But even with that foundation, which was 15 years of working 100 basketball games a year, the moment I stepped from college football to the National Football League, it was a different sport. You know what I mean? Like, these are now guys that have honed this craft every single day

of their life. And when Randy Moss would get to the top of his route and have his hand right at his waist just to separate just at the break just enough to gain a fraction of a separation which wasn't enough for a foul but you knew he kind of pushed off but he cheated well you know what I'm saying like and bam the ball was there in that business it's like move on let's go and and that's the that's the growth so you look at it in real terms and chronological years you know you start roughing at 25 years young and 15 years of just building it you're 40 and you're a young guy in the NFL right I mean and now at 50 52 you've got 10 years under your belt that next 5 10 years of your life if you've got 10 years under your belt, that next five, 10 years of your life,

if you've kept yourself physically great, if you've done all of that, now you're going to do your best body of work. You know what I mean? And that's kind of the progression. And I get it because every once in a while, it's like anything else. You see one or two bad apple kind of feels and the whole thing goes down. And let's face it, fellas, refs don't get any wins. No. Like we're not fist bumping in the locker room we got a w you know how many times i listen to post games

and a coach is standing there he looks like he probably hasn't slept right for four weeks because they're they're on a three game skid and the first thing he says at the podium is you know if we could get a win everything's going to change like the whole thing's going to change and i'm sitting here at home eating popcorn going yo i haven't gotten a win in 35 years you know what i'm saying like you're on a 20-day skid i'm looking at you like the last time i got a w i was 20 you know what i mean like so gene the mentality of that you got to be able to endure that that's not easy it's you know it takes a certain being to handle this stuff gene do you think there should be uh press conferences for refs after games i think that would help out refs don't you think because they could explain the decision and why they made it and also fans get a chance to actually hear the questions be asked

to the refs that you know because now with gambling i mean there's always been gambling obviously and uh you know that's been a part of it but now that it's growing i mean there's billions and billions of dollars on these games from fans now fans have always been very passionate very loyal but now there's so much money on the line do you think press conferences would help or you think that would potentially kill confidence of those guys you're talking about that maybe haven't had as much time uh that's a good question um the tough part about having a post-game pull right is you're going to look at me on a judgment call you're going to talk to me about you know sterator said on the on the broadcast he thought that was enough for pass interference

and you're playing in that again in that judgment line now we're going to sit in a pool spray and let and let people fire shoot at you you from random areas on judgmental plays. That's not fair. We can't go there. You just can't go there. There's too many judgments made where scenarios came. Misenforcement of penalties, complete, egregiously mistaken application of rules, things like that. You know, we had poor reporters in the NFL.

That's how they handled that. You know, if you'd walked off the field and someone grabbed you with that white shirt on and said, yo, we got a poor reporter today. It was like, we got something big. Right. You know what I mean? So but again, in that fraternity, this is the best kept secret in athletics. And rightly so. Like officials dig the fact that they're not front page. You know, they did a great job. this is the best kept secret in athletics and rightly so like officials

dig the fact that they're not front page you know they did a great job it's there it's the way we're made up we're not looking for pats on the back as we go into this turn right see you know what I'm saying you gotta leave Tony current be alone he just would leave his mic on every once in a while. You know, he was human. And I loved him for that, you know. But he was a Pazan mentor. I can't pass on him. And I got to go a little Yinzer Patty for a minute.

I was. I told the boys I was down on the south side last night. I said, Patty, Mac's going to have me on. Here we go. Everybody was shouting and screaming, yo. He said this, quote, tell them Yuns are killing it. That's how it happened. They all started cheering.

They were buying rounds all up and down the south side, crossed the river into the strip district. It was crazy. You're on fire, my friend. Gene, we love you. I'm honest with you. You're on fire. No, you're on fire, Gene.

Let's go. I'm serious, man. Hey, you're the best, Gene. Please tell everybody I said hello, and I would like to buy a shot for all of them as well. All the way down. I've done it before. I'll do it again. You mean from 18th and Carson all the way down to the point?

Oh! I'm proud of you, brother. I'm proud of you. Thank you, Gene. I appreciate you, man. Last question here from AJ. Please tell everybody I say hello. We fucking love you, Gene.

Go ahead, AJ. Gene, what's it like when you work in college basketball games? I know any game I've been to, I watch both coaches just berate the refs the whole game. The only time they stop usually is when they talk to their team during timeouts. I feel like they're working you guys all night long. Is that always the case? Yeah, it's constant, AJ. It's a beautiful

thing man my psychologist is gonna love it forever like at the end of each session she's like gene we don't have to revisit that again but if you want to we can because because i loved it um but yeah aj you're you're so right it's like it's non-stop and and part of it i think is in their mind they think that work in that and constantly questioning is somehow going to gain some advantage on a 50-50 play. I would love to tell them because of the millions of people watching right now because of the success of the show. They're wrong. For the most part, that isn't working. You know what I mean?

But it's part of the nuance of that business. And, you know, I always allowed it. I didn't like the optics, though, AJ. You know what I'm saying? Like the jacket stuff off, the hands up, the pointing. Put your hands down. Say what you need to say to me. You know what I'm saying?

Like I can handle whatever it is. When do you know when they cross the line? When I think it's not good for the game. That was my line. And the reason why I say it that way, AJ, is everyone involved in an athletic event has to be held accountable to something at the end of the day. We have to live in that pyramid structure. And at the top of that pyramid is the game, right? Coaches have their posse. They got their team. They got their pride, their teams. We were going out to kick someone's ass and whatever the team

needs, we're going to do that. That's their thing. That's cool. At the end of the day, though, they're held accountable to the game. Same with the players and their actions and the officials. And a very big part of what officials should be doing is understanding that there is a line at some point. Look, you're not going to like me today. I get it. And I'm cool with it. But you have to respect me enough that as I navigate this craziness, and sometimes your adolescent behavior, if I put my hand over my mouth, and I start talking to you on the sideline for a minute, what's coming out behind my mouth is, right now what you're doing, it's not good for the game. And we're held accountable to that. And if you now continue to cross it, I not really whacking you you're whacking yourself

it's suicide it is a murder but i'm coming you're getting it you know what i'm saying and it is within that bantering and i gotta be frank with you like that's that's what i dug more than the game itself that's what i remember more than the games i remember those interactions of being able to stay in that moment with this craziness around and still be able to hold a level of a baseline that was like look at i'm good with whatever you're doing i know i got family and you like to swear about them but but keep your hands down don't let the crowd don't let these people that love this game this youth the downs the people below this that are striving to be you that optic can't work here.

That's not good for the game. It's off. I'm giving you one. If you continue to come back at me, I'm whacking you to set you back down. And then if you do it again, I'm dismissing you, right? I mean, that's just the way it is. My dad always said, look, when you're a ref, you carry a bazooka on your belt. When people are shooting BBs at you, you don't pull a bazooka out. But when it comes time to pull it, you don't just show it. You throw it. In that world is that. And I think the crossover, honestly, between what we could say on a football field, right, with you guys, that nobody saw.

We could navigate all this and have a lot of fun out there, talk a lot of shit. And if it got too quiet after two or three plays i would stand between both teams and go oh it's too quiet let's go pick it back up nobody's talking about shit and a couple guys would look like gene you're crazy but i knew at that point then they were engaging and embracing the fact that they felt like i understood the energy out there so that when they did now stand over somebody and I started to yell it was like a reaction like I got you man because I but you because you've allowed this and that right and in basketball the proximity is so close we're all great lip readers uh cameras love to go to coaches right after a controversial play it's good tv

so you've got to be able to navigate that in a fire chute, like in a tight window. And for me to cross over from one to the other, I blended all that management with it. And that was the juice. Like, that's the juice. That's why you stay, man. That's why you do it. Were you supposed to be like a politician, you think? Because I honestly, AJ, hey, everybody in Green Bay loved you, AJ said to me. Everybody in Indianapolis loved you.

I remember when you came to training camp, the way that you were being introduced to the young guys and the young coaches like hey this is the best ref we got like Gene Sarator is the best ref that the league's got do you think like you just were because kind of like Tom Brady retired and then he came back like you ever think about it you were made to ref it feels like and if not you're supposed to be a politician because you can settle things so quickly in live action. Will you ever get back in there? Will you ever get back in there? No politician. In this day and age, there's no, we're not talking that,

but nobody can, politics, we can't fix like this nowhere. True that, but you can talk to anybody. You can handle situations. You're calm, you're cool. At the highest stakes, you're so dedicated and bought in. Will you ever get back into reffing, you think you the tv is everything i love what i'm doing right now i'm not going anywhere like i what i'm doing right now is my platform through the grateful and graciousness of cbs yes is allowing me to do just what we're doing right now right so uh this

platform i think I can help officiating in a better way than boots on the ground with a closed in fraternity. And that was a part of the decision making process, Pat, when I left, because I left at 55. And I'm telling you, that's like, that's like when you got your five best years ahead of you, if you can keep strong, you know, my back is not good. I got some herniations and some fusions from playing and being out there all these years.

So I'm challenged a bit physically. But I do believe that what CBS has allowed me to do with both of the sports that I love and the SEC, and I kind of went back and fell in love with college football again, because when I was in the moment reffing, I didn't have time. We were doing pregames on Saturdays. You couldn't watch college football. So now I've been back into that. And what they've allowed me to do is be engaged in three of the most unbelievable sporting things that we have on the planet.

And I've got more time. So it is getting out there and talking to young officials. It is trying to recruit. Look, as an epidemic, no one wants to ref, okay, because they're watching all this. They're seeing all this. I mean, who's sitting at home thinking, yo, I want to do that?

Be abused completely. So the recruiting of officials right now is skewed toward the negative so much that we've got to lift that back up and we have to do that because these games can't get played without good officiating there's a third team and and it's cool to hate them it's all right it's good it's good for the game but we got to have them so i really feel like again through what i'm doing now which i love to death it is kind of like reffing i won't lie to you.

Like, dude, I'd love for you to come up to the studio and watch, you know, 10 screens flying at once in the 1 o'clock window in five NFL games. And bam, there's a review over here. You know, and then so I'm still gaining all of that, which I'm grateful for. I get to rewind, too, which is really cool. I get to look at it again. I get to circle back which i never got to do in real life right on the field so uh but for me right now which is also what's real cool about ref uh it's it's great what you do personally right you always celebrate your personal

accomplishments with the people that are around you that sacrificed part of their life to allow you to have that that's personal but now what do you do with your success? What do you do with the platform you get out of the hard work you personally celebrated? Now it's time to give back, and great officials always are giving back, right? Like, look, you know when you guys played with great players that knew they were in the last year or two of their contract,

and somebody got drafted in your second the last year maybe that was replacing you right did you just ignore him did you not share those secrets with him you know what i mean or like aj you i mean you were out there for a decade right or over a decade and and these young linebackers are coming in and they're looking at you you know that some of the tricks of the trade right now right so you give back to that fraternity if you love it. Right. And if you do the right thing, that's what refs do. That's that's what this is about.

And again, it's cool that nobody really knows it because that's what you pride yourself in. Because, you know, not being recognized. Well, Gene, you need to be recognized. And by the way, we will do our part to help you. We won't bury refs as much. Talk about how hard of a job it is because we do need it. And I think the reason why we talk about it so much is because as players, and I got to watch a lot of great games and, you know, interact with refs, right?

Punter, kicker always interacts with the refs basically every single time we go in there. And I'm a chatty person, obviously. So I think, like, watching and knowing the importance of a great ref versus a bad ref and how much a game can change. I mean, one pass interference call, Gene. I mean, that is an entire game change on its head. If it's a battle, it's like we need good refs, and you were the best of all time.

We can't thank you enough for joining us. Enjoy the rest of March Madness. You're crushing it, pal. Thanks, guys. It's great. Shout out to you, man. Everybody, Don Tom. Don Tom. Love you, the bird, Patty. Hey, guys. It's great. Shout out to you, man. Everybody, Don Tom. Don Tom.

Love the bird, Patty. Hey, I love you, and I love the bird as well. Ladies and gentlemen, CBS officiating analyst Gene Steratore. Hey, Gene. A quarterback that just signed a restructured extension to remain the trigger man of a team that has a new general manager, a new head coach, but a roster that is ready to rock. Ladies and gentlemen, if he dies, he dies.

Michigan State legend, Kirk Cousins. Yeah! I don't know if I ever got to congratulate you, thank you for that t-shirt you made that made me look like Ivan Drago. I thought that was tremendous, like Ivan Drago I thought that was tremendous and my offensive lineman thought it was even better well we raised a bunch of money I think for the foundation as well with that shirt I mean thanks for letting us be a part of it dude I love it it was a win-win uh speaking of win-win you get restructure you're

there for at least two more years uh by the way your business is fucking awesome the way you do business I want to let you know, I have utmost respect for it. I think every former player does. Everybody does. Nothing but respect. Don't want to dive into that. But with a new GM, new head coach,

was there ever a thought, especially with how much movement's happening with quarterbacks and other positions, did you think you were going to end up elsewhere? Or did you know, was there ever a conversation about you potentially drifting in? Because I had you as a coach for like three days and I was pumped. I was so pumped about it.

I'm like, yeah, he's coming to Indianapolis. Was that ever something that crossed your mind with the nature of the way the NFL is right now? You know, good point about how much quarterback movement there's been, not only this year, but it seems like the last two or three off seasons has been more than normal. People are really putting a priority on the quarterback position, and if they don't feel they have one, they're going out of their way to get one. But no,

it never really got to a place of, you know, will we leave? I think it was more of just, how are we going to stay? You know, what's that going to look like? But the plan was always to stay, I think, on both sides. And, you know, I played in Washington. I really wanted to be a one-team quarterback for my whole career. And Going to Minnesota, I'd really like to just be a two-team quarterback. Now I'm not really trying to be a three-team quarterback. You get the three-team, four-team quarterback status, now you're the journeyman. I'd rather just be a two-team quarterback.

Going back to the business side of the league, AJ and I actually have had the same agent in Mike McCartney. It's really not me being a businessman. It's really been Mike's handling me. And I know AJ lived that long before I have. And we've both got great representation. Well, before AJ's question, I've seen his palatial estate. Oh, my God.

Oh, Mike McCartney has done AJ Hawke good. Oh, I couldn't imagine you. But don't sell yourself short, man. I saw the behind-the-scenes footage of when the Jets offered and when Minnesota offered. Then Will Compton came in here and was like, hey, me and Kirk have had a lot of conversations. You've got a big business brain yourself. I understand your representation has done well, but you have to also be in there driving. So I have the utmost respect for you, sir. Go ahead, A.J. Kirk, what about your new

head coach, Kevin O'Connell? How much did you know about him before he got there and how much interaction have you had with him so he coached me for a year as my quarterback coach in Washington in 2017 really enjoyed my year with him then and you know the interaction you know since then had been very minimal you know we played him in 19 my second year here in Minnesota and then played him again this past year when he was with L.A. So, you know, after the game, dap him up, say hello. But that was about it. And so I'm excited to, you know, have him be our head coach. And I've already been able to connect with him a little bit and get a sense of where he wants, you know, things to go.

And so we're in those early conversations of learning a new system and kind of figuring out uh you know what this team's gonna look like up ahead i saw you and adam thielen talk i think on his podcast ets i think i don't want to make sure i get the name right on ets i think it's his gym and it's a podcast and thielen obviously a freak show athlete but there was a moment on a sideline where you explained the situation where thielen told you live during the game like hey instead of this out being at out nine yards or whatever, it's actually going to be at 13 or 15 because of the way the guy's playing. And then the cameras caught you guys on a sideline. And the way you explained it is you were telling them,

hey, I need you to get there quicker than that. If that's what you're going to do, you need to be able to do it. And people, I think, on the Internet were like, oh, no, Kirk and Adam are getting into it. And the way you described it is the good thing about having a teammate like Thielen is his emotional intelligence is high enough that you can have those type of moments and move on.

I think for you, other than that, you like that. I think you're kind of an enigma to a lot of people like, oh, there's like kind of a nerdy guy listening to you explain that to Adam Thielen and understand that that's a real thing. Do you have to like kind of pick and choose which teammates and how you handle for everybody? Is it like situations or situational? Are you always that fiery of a guy and you just got to hope that your teammates understand it?

Yeah, you know, I think there's always been an intensity there. But the longer I play and the more I'm around different people and even away from football in my off seasons, the more I just place a premium on self-awareness and emotional intelligence and just kind of understanding how you fit and how you should fit in a team. And that's just so important and such a big part of playing quarterback, such a big part of playing the NFL. So certainly it certainly shows up, you know, as you relate to teammates, relate to receivers, try to help other guys, try to serve them, try to show them, you know, how you want things done. We're also trying to help them and the balance of I'm going to demand from you

and I'm also going to try to help you. And all those things are such a big part of playing the position. Do you feel like the outside world doesn't give you enough credit or respect or does that not bother you at all? You have to hear some of it. You have to, have to, have to. Yeah, I don't live in a box where I don't hear anything. But, you know, certainly winning.

Winning is kind of the deal. I mean, you could be a pretty bad quarterback, and if your team wins, you're the man. And people who know can kind of see through that, and they watch the tape, and they're like, I don't think they're winning because of the quarterback, but good for him, you know, that people are in his corner. And I think the opposite can be true too. When you're the quarterback, you know, it doesn't really matter what you do or how you play. If your team's not

going to the playoffs, winning the division, playing in the Super Bowl, there's something wrong with you. And so you're always kind of working through that of, we got to win. We got to find ways to win. I got to play better, play better. And you don't really expect people to be in your corner unless you're winning and winning consistently. We're watching these pro days happen right now with these college kids coming out that are draft eligible, and we watch these things. Can you tell anything from a quarterback throwing on air at a pro day? Can you tell if that's going to translate to the NFL?

I think it's better than nothing. I mean, I would go, if I was an evaluator, I would go watch as many, you know, quarterback pro days in person is realistic just to be able to see how the ball leaves his hand. You know, I think in person it's different than on tape. And so I want to see how the ball comes out of somebody's hand, but boy, it's a big difference. I mean, you guys played, you know, but it's a big difference, you know, throwing football, throwing a football on air with no pass rush and nobody covering than it is playing real football with 22 people on the field

with a pass rush coming at you. So it can sometimes, you know, false sense of confidence or false sense of security that, you know, hey, this guy looks really good in shorts and a T-shirt. You have to be able to see past that. But it's truly, you know, the ball leaving a guy's hand. I think that's where pro days can be really valuable. Hey, whenever you get drafted, same draft class as RG3, and they gave up, I think, the next 15 years of the franchise to get RG3. So you're kind of coming into a spot where you know, like, all right, this is a business.

I don't have a chance. I'm going to be a backup here. But you were, you know, highly talked about coming out of Michigan State. Like, hey, this Kirk Cousins guy is a guy. He's a guy. At what moment did you know you were going to be able to play in the NFL? Because you weren't given a lot of opportunities, I assume, early in practice or really in just life in the NFL because of the RG3 trade that happened before him even getting there.

At what moment did you know you were going to be a guy in the NFL? Is there something that maybe these college or these scouts can ask, like a player, to figure out if somebody's going to be a bust, if they're going to be able to play in the NFL? Did you have a moment or anything that kind of clicked for you? You know, that's a great question. Funny thing, you know, when I was in college, we had 100 guys on the team at Michigan State and 85 on scholarship.

And as long as you didn't do something really stupid like break the law, you were going to be on the team at Michigan State and 85 on scholarship and as long as you didn't do something really stupid like break the law you were going to be on the team and I had no concept when I got drafted I just assumed I'd be I had no concept that when I showed up for OTAs there were 90 guys and it was going to go down to 53 and I'm doing the math and I remember saying to a veteran player I said I didn't realize that it's like not a lock that I'm on the team like I just assumed fourth round pick you know fourth round pick I'm going I'm on the team. Like I just assumed fourth round pick, you know, fourth round pick. I'm going to be on the team. And my agent was talking like I'm going to be on the team. But like I got to go out to practice and like play better than the other options in the room.

And this guy goes, what what round were you in? I said I was a fourth round pick. And he said, you got one year. Yeah. He said, you're basically going to be politically gifted one year and you're OK for now. But yeah, by next year, you better be good or you're going to be politically gifted one year and you're okay for now. But yeah, by next year, you better be good or you're going to be gone. And so I kind of learned right away, Hey man, I got to get this together. But, um, I'd probably say it wasn't until my fourth year that

I really clicked. Um, I played in my third year and played pretty poorly and got benched. And so then I was like, maybe I'm not cut out to do this. You know, maybe I'm a backup at best. Maybe I'm, you know, should be selling insurance. And it was year four when it started to click. And I thought, all right, I may have some staying power. What was it? Was it just the game slowed down? The defense started to close? Did you understand how to be a better leader? What was it? It's a great question. I think it's one I'm still trying to answer. You know, why did it suddenly it suddenly click you know because as I was playing I was getting frustrated in years two and three because I felt like I was getting better I felt like I had ability and yet it just

wasn't showing there were just a lot of interceptions a lot of just unfortunate things happening close losses and it was really year four when it just kind of the tables turned and suddenly those close losses were close wins and those 50-50 balls were going our way instead of their way. And I don't know, maybe it was just that experience and being able to know the difference. But it really took a while. And then year four was when it started.

And for the most part, I haven't really looked back. People have talked about now how you have an offensive-minded head coach. And that changes the entire dynamic of the day. That changes the way the day is going to be set up. Does that change anything for you? And what is your leadership style, you think? Are you like a coach in the room everywhere you are, and is that what Kevin O'Connell is expecting, I assume?

Because you need your quarterback to be a guy, and you have become a full guy. You look the part. You act the part. You talk the part. You play the part. Not the part you talk the part you play the part not everybody has that i just want to let you know not everybody has that you do though is that what kevin o'connell is expecting and how do you see it going now with an offensive minded head coach i'll tell you i i lead a lot differently now in my eighth year as a starter

than i did in my first year as a starter i mean when you don't have skin on the wall you know you gotta you gotta kind of defer to the pierre garcon's and the Deshaun Jackson's that, hey, you know, you guys have played 10 years. I haven't. No, it's hard for me to just kind of come in here and act like I have all the answers. That goes back again to the self-awareness a little bit. But you better believe going into year eight as a starter that, you know, there's a little more authority there, a little more of a skin on the wall where you say, hey, I've been here before. I've done this is what we're doing. This is what we're not doing. And I think that helps the whole team, the whole offense, when they feel like, hey, this quarterback has been around the block and this isn't his first rodeo. You have to have that. Me and AJ talk about this. That's what I think a lot of these teams

should be trying to figure out whenever they're talking to these guys throwing on air. It's like, who has the mentality that they can take over a billion dollar organization? That is what you need. I've got a chance to watch Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck, his first couple years, so nice to everybody, just so nice to everybody. But there was transactions being made that were definitely affecting him. And I know he didn't like it. And it's like, hey, you have to figure out a way to say, nah, we ain't, listen, we are doing this this way, as opposed to this way. That's the difference between NFL and college ball and high school ball. And I think the world got to see it whenever you did your, you like that?

You like that? It was like, oh, there's a little fire out of this guy. I absolutely love it. Go ahead, Ty. Kirk, a common narrative now is that these receivers who are coming in are just unbelievable kind of from the get-go. And obviously you had Justin Jefferson. I think he was a first-team All-Pro his rookie year.

But have you noticed during your time in the league, are guys kind of ready to go when they come right in? And how quickly does it take for you to kind of get the rapport with some guy where you actually trust him and you know you're going to be on the same page when he's running routes? I will answer your question, but that was the first look I got at the guy on your right with the mullet. I just want to make sure I can't not address that. First question, is that a

mullet? I'm not sure. There's not as much business in the front. It's just kind of slicked back. Yeah. But if it is a mullet, can you talk to me? It looks like the mullet's coming back in the high school age kids. Can we talk about that? Yeah, the mullet's coming back. mean it doesn't look like you know there's a lot of business in the front but there is i mean it's pretty long you can as you can tell but yeah it's been a pretty uh long journey to get here uh the mullet is all the way back jerk i think you should probably go with it maybe you know i grew one i grew one during uh i think it was during covid late covid i grew it uh going into the 2020 season and i said know, the mullet's really cool when you're

throwing touchdown passes and winning, but at the very first press conference after a loss, the mullet's suddenly not cool. That's smart. Setting yourself up for future potential failures. Hey, you think you look cool now? I threw a couple picks there. We lost. Cool mullet.

That's the internet, too. The internet would do that immediately. Hey, got a baby. Oh. Let's go, dude. That's a big day. To answer your question, you make a good point. Receivers, it's a little easier to just plug and play.

There's still a lot of learning that takes place. But if you're good and you can beat man coverage, you know how to run a go route, you can help a team. Quarterback, there's a few more moving parts. If you're good and you can beat man coverage, you know how to run a go route, you can help a team. Quarterback, there's a few more moving parts. But even that, there's still a lot of busts at the receiver position, early high draft picks. I mean, Justin Jefferson was the fifth guy taken the year we got him. Four receivers went ahead of him.

So there's still some complexities with evaluating that position, and we're lucky that he fell to us. I saw Peyton in the offseason. He had to get reps in with his guys because it was all the reps, the reps. The amount of reps is just insane. Hey, we're going to run this same route a thousand times today, and then we're going to do it again tomorrow, and then we're going to do it again the next day. And he was thrown to a spot every single time he threw,

and it was like a timing thing. It was a thing of beauty. You're similar. You're a similar style throw. How do you get those reps in with young receivers? Like you and Justin Jefferson, it seemed like from day one we're on the same page. Is it just a connection with some people and you don't with others? Or is it just something you have to adapt to?

I think it's that he's just pretty good at football. I remember he hadn't played a lot. You know, he was getting reps with the twos. He was playing in the slot in training camp. We didn't start in the first two weeks of the year. And we go and play Houston the fourth week of the year, and he runs a slant and go. And with really no background experience, I just instinctively threw him a back shoulder ball and he just instinctively adjusts to it and makes an unbelievable catch. And among other plays leading up to that, you're like, this guy's going to be pretty good if he's doing that without a

lot of time on task together. But you're right. right you know there is a level of kind of OCD and how you prepare and wanting to rep stuff over and over and over again and feeling like you know you're checking and rechecking everything so that you don't leave any stone unturned how good are Theo and Jefferson like what sets those two guys apart and they're both on your team you obviously get the ball to them a lot. What do those guys do that others don't? I'm a big believer in the receiver position and when you build a team or an offense, having two guys.

So a lot of talk about Justin, but I really think you need two. And so in my career, whether it was Pierre and Deshaun in Washington or whether it was Diggsie and Adam when I got to Minnesota or now Justin and Adam, having two is really what frees up the quarterback. It frees up the coordinator. It frees up the receivers to feel like, okay, I'm not going to get too much double coverage because they've got to worry about somebody else. And I think that's when the offense can really take off is at any moment, you know, you've got two dudes that can win versus man coverage and make something happen and so Adam is a huge compliment to Justin and Justin's a huge compliment to Adam

and I'm grateful to get to play with both of them I know that is that the change the math discussion that happens and how early in the game do you know who they're trying to get rid of yeah you know and it's a little bit of uh you know you're always kind of trying to get in the defensive coordinator's head and you never really feel like you do because it's like, all right, they chose to do that, but it didn't work. Are they going to come back to it or, hey, they did that. I didn't think that was going to be the game plan, but it works. So now are they going to go back to that? Some coordinators are I never want to show you the same look. So I'm going to give you that look.

And even if it worked, I'm not going to do it again because I'm thinking that you're expecting it. And other coordinators are, you know, whatever we do, we're going to do it the whole game and, you know, dare you to figure it out. So you try to get a feel as the game goes on, and then in the back of your mind you're always ready for cover zero. You're like, at any moment, if this guy zeros me, I better be ready. So there's a lot of thoughts going on, you know, the chess match between the quarterback and the D coordinator

and trying not to get fooled. We talked to Aaron on Tuesdays, and there was this one Tuesday where he said that a defense gave him a look that he remembered from his second year playing. He was like he was standing back there, and he looked, and he was like, oh, they ran this against me in like 2006 or something like that. And he tried to like recall before the plays get snapped, what that look was about to do. And I guess he did figure, I think they threw a touchdown on the play.

That's probably why we asked about it. They probably did. Yeah, I would assume he did. But is that the type of guy you are before snap too? Are you trying to break down? I know there's different styles of things. And there's obviously Peyton has his way. Tom has his way.

Aaron has his way. Before the play, is that all happening in your head and then at what point do you have to shut that off and just fucking go with it go with a decision yeah I I hear you I mean it's um you have to take pride in kind of being a mental football nerd that you know every rep you've ever had you remember and it carries with you and it impacts the next play and how you play and process it but I mean Aaron AJ will speak to it Aaron's on a whole nother level with just the amount of information he can take in and I've never been around him but just observing from a distance when it's the the play clock the number of timeouts the the game clock you know the field position the play the playbook his ability, you know, just handle it all.

I mean, as LeFleur was telling me at the Pro Bowl, you know, he said, I'm calling a play to him and he's having a conversation with the referee while he's hearing the play call. And then he goes into the huddle and calls the play like he can do both at the same time. It's unbelievable. And so I think his arm is ridiculous. It's like he's throwing a tennis ball. His feet are quick, but I honestly think his most elite trait is his

mind and his ability to process so much more than the rest of us. That being said, to play quarterback at this level, at this league, at a high level, anybody, you've got to have a mind that can have a high capacity. I think that's a... There's offenses changing, obviously, in the NFL.

But if you look, Stafford, Joey Burrow, I mean, that is, that was the Superbowl and Patrick Mahomes moves obviously, but he is a passer versus Tom Brady the year before. I mean, if you have a cerebral quarterback that can break down what the hell's going on and throw the ball everywhere, that's going to have a place forever. Do you think the game changing? And this is obviously not Kirk Cousins, the quarterback for the Vikings. This is Kirk Cousins, football pundit. Do you think offensive changes that you're seeing around the NFL,

do you think that's going to continue, or do you think there will always be the same old school mental gymnastic freaks that can pick apart a defense that's going to be successful in the end? That's another great question, and one that I've asked myself a lot as I go through my career, because I don't want to be a dinosaur. I want to adapt adapt and so if I need to change my game I'll change it but I remember saying to Matt Cavanaugh my quarterback coach in Washington before Kevin arrived just saying you know Matt played 14 years in the league and coached and you know he's been a part of multiple Super Bowls and I said to him you know

you think you know the quarterback position is going to change where you've got to run a 4-4 and and you've got to just run around and kind of make plays off schedule and and that's the only way to play in this league someday and he said that's going to be good that's a nice trait to have but he said I think that if if you can't throw from the pocket go through a progression throw with accuracy and kind of do it the old school way also you can't play and so he said there will always be that foundation you have to have and that anything above that is is a bonus go ahead connor yeah kirk first things first i mean you got justin jefferson and adam theeland just grow the damn mullet back i think you'll be all right all is said we're gonna be just fine yeah exactly dalvin cook zero interceptions yeah none

zero the entire seat new offense exactly it'll be a perfect offense speaking of the new offense Yeah, exactly. Dalvin Cook, who cares? Zero interceptions. Yeah, none. Zero. The entire season. New offense, zero interceptions. It would be a perfect offense. Speaking of the new offense, with a first-year head coach, first-year GM, do they ask you for any input going into free agency and going into the draft of what you think the team might need to take the next step and maybe overtake the Packers? You know, I think they're open to input. I don't even know that I waited to ask for

if they wanted input. I just kind of shared it and I kind of preface it with you can do what you want with this. But here's my take on, you know, where we're at, not only on the roster, but as an organization, you know, here's where we're at. And then honestly, once I say my piece and share it, then it's, hey, you guys are in big roles, and you're paid to do that job, and you've got to go do it. So whatever you do, you do. But I just want them to have information that they can then make decisions with however they want to do it. I like the thought of Questy sitting there.

You know, he just got the job, just got the Vikings GM job. Man, what a day. Fucking GM. All right, here we go. Sits down at night, you know, doing whatever, and all of a sudden he gets an unknown number with a day. Fucking GM. All right, here we go. Sits down at night, you know, doing whatever. And all of a sudden he gets an unknown number with a text. Hey, what's up, man? Welcome to the Vikings.

This is Kirk. Here are some thoughts. But you're setting a precedent too, I think, though. You're also setting a precedent, like I think, right? Yeah, honestly, what you just described is eerily similar to what happened. You know, it was like, nice to nice to meet you we need to win here's my thoughts on how to do that you know it's it's been great though they they're just classy guys hardworking smart and um and now you know like i said hey we checked the first box in terms of getting the right people in here you and kevin and and all that but i said the second box of checks is to go win, you know,

and that's on me as much as on anyone. And we don't get to figure that out until the fall, but we're taking steps on our way there right now. Kirk, your legacy is going to be, you know, forever. After you retire, they're going to talk about whether you win or not. I like the fact that you're taking ownership over that, honestly. And I think a lot of guys around the league are starting to do that. Like, hey, listen, the way things are being talked about social media conversations narratives the way it's more than

ever and it's only going to grow by the way as more of these platforms and more money goes the fact that you understand like hey the way I'm going to be talked about forever is how we do this thing quest like that ownership is what I think everybody wants and needs out of their quarterback and not just their quarterback, all their pillar positions. I love hearing it. I'm sure Vikings fans are pumped to hear you right now. Go ahead, Tone. Last question for you, Kirk.

Appreciate you. Kirk, I'm not sure if you heard or not. When Russ Wilson went to the Denver Broncos, he was asked about their division, and he said he was pumped to play in the best division, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Be honest with us. Were you hoping that Aaron Rodgers retired? I always want the neighborhood to be as friendly as possible and as long as aaron rogers lives at the end of the cul-de-sac

uh you know the neighborhood's going to be challenging and um you know we always say hey to be the best you got to beat the best kind of a thing so we don't want to back into anything. But I'd be lying to you if I thought that the division would be just as difficult if Aaron Rodgers were somewhere else. You know, that's just out of respect for his game and the way he's played for, you know, 17 years.

So, you know, it is what it is. You gotta, you gotta go toe to toe with that team. That's been a great team the last several years. Well coached, you know,

and, and you got to find a way to get it done and and that's why you work so hard and why you're on the phone with the with the gm and the head coach here's what i think we need to do because you know it's a matter of inches and the difference between playing meaningful football in january and february and sitting at home watching it on tv cliff kingsbury told us right here he came in during a combine and he said uh whenever we told him that, you know, it's rumors that Russell Wilson is going to be leaving and he said, I hope God. I hope to God he's out of the NFC West.

So what you're saying here is not a unique one. It's a real one. It's respect for the great players around. Kirk, what's the offseason look like? What are you doing right now? How's the golf game working out a little bit? Mental tug? You know, Russell Wilson watched every single play that the Broncos had last year in a two-day period. Are you studying the film right now? What does all off-season look like for Kirk Cousins?

Yeah, it's a little bit of everything. I got a film set up. I do my body work, but you better believe I'm going to hit the golf course too and spend some family time. I'm actually spending most of my off-season here in Orlando. We're basically around Disney World a lot. So we get over there. I'm a little bit of a Disney guy. So get over there and have fun with that too. So that's kind of my change of pace. But I also got to say before I get off, seeing AJ reminded me,

one of the greatest regrets of my entire life and certainly my football career was early in my career my agency called me and said, Hey, you got an opportunity to go sit and look at, in L.A., watch a filming of The Office, the actual show. They said, for proof that you can do it, here's a picture of A.J. Hawk. He went and watched the film The Office, got to meet the characters, all that stuff. Literally, I saw a picture of A.J. in The Office. That face. I almost did it. I had a picture of AJ in the office. That face. I almost did it.

I had a few things going on. I turned it down. And to this day, it pains me to say that. But I just had to bring it up with AJ. The fact that I did that, man, I'm so jealous. And I was so stupid not to do it too. But I just wanted to hear what that experience was like. Oh, it was awesome.

Thanks to Julie for setting that up. It was right after the super bowl and i had my hand in a full cast i just had surgery had my wrist rebuilt and had a two-month old baby and we took her in there and spent like six hours we ate lunch with all the characters yeah it was it was crazy kirk if you're like obviously you're a fan how did this even how did this even not get brought up until Kirk Cousins comes on the show? How was I going to bring it up? I mean, we've talked about Baumgartner a thousand times.

Ten thousand times, Michael. I mean, literally, we've talked about this no less than a thousand times. Like, I'm not even exaggerating. Kirk, this is bullshit. What is the deal? He's been on a real roll lately. That's unbelievable. Kirk, I wish you would have went so we could have talked to you about it. I know you would

have at least brought it up if we were like, hey, The Office, pretty good show. You would have said, you know, I actually watched one of those. You would have done that, Kirk, because you're a good human. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Friends don't not tell friends about visiting The Office cast. Amen. Thank you. You're right, Kirk.

Thank you, Kirk. Grow the mullet back, Kirk. Ladies and gentlemen, quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, Kirk Cousins. Thank you, Kirk. That was awesome, that show. I wasn't sure how it was going to be. I'm glad they're killing it still. Boy, I'll tell you what, I regretted going whenever they played the back three songs of hotel california that i i only heard of one of them i i hadn't really heard of the other two songs

because i guess every album back in the day is a full story right so you hear hotel california that's the launch off of the entire story for that entire album and they took a lot of pride in that we missed the first fucking six chapters of the story yeah hotel california to where we were i'd never heard of that song before so it was like all right this sucks is what i said and we can't this fucking thing's right in front of us i can't see anybody and then they go oh we got a 20 minute break and then the lights come on i'm like this is the worst fucking night of my life i cannot wait to bury this experience tomorrow and then they came back on and went for two and a half

fucking hours and it was just like oh this is amazing and watching like somebody like a hall of famer like go to work like and do their thing and obviously you could see things on tv and you can see things on a screen but like just watching that live and i don't know how much longer right yeah probably not very much it was fucking really inspiring dude like inspiring i agree i hope to watch and yeah i hope to one day be half as much of a showman as fucking joe walsh honestly one day or to like be as like be so into something as much as like they are like they live that's like how gene is about reffing like it's the juice like he feels like game day is game day like everyone feels it and That's what kept him reffing for

so long. I feel like these musicians, that's what they live for is to get on stage. It's fun to watch all the little interactions between songs, how they talk with each other, all their fists bumping. I get pumped when I see them have great camaraderie. I'm like, oh, you guys are a team. You're still juiced. You've been doing this for 30 years. You should hate each

other probably. Yeah, and I think there was those moments for the Eagles. Oh, yeah. When Hell Freezes Over, right? Didn't they have an album? They said they would get back together when Hell Freezes Over, and they named their album when Hell Freezes Over. Is that them?

Yeah. Was it? I believe so, yeah. And was it because of Joe? I think he was a big part of it, but that was when he was kind of going through it, I think, as well. And, by the way, I could see how that would be an issue if Joe,

who's obviously the show. Yeah. I mean, he was, I would assume he was like that all the time, but if he's obviously the show and he's the one also potentially causing a lot, is there jealousy involved there too?

Cause in his mind, he's probably thinking that plus also any of the other factors you could see. I know he's like the leader. And he's like the supposed leader of the Eagles. Yeah. I think Don also, but Don also had a very successful solo career Isn't he like the supposed leader of the Eagles? Yeah, I think Don also had a very successful solo career, so I think he was

part of that as well. Wasn't it Don and the guy that died who didn't they fight a lot? Not sure. I'm going to say this. If you're on the road and you are a bunch of incredibly talented people and the road life isn't easy and there's

some extracurriculars also getting added into there. And, you know, agents and business and money and everything. I don't know how any band that tours ever remains friends. Each person, too. Like, each individual member, they have their people, their managers, their agents, their family saying, hey, you need more solos. Like, you're one of the best people in the group. Why is old buddy getting all the shine? Like, that's a huge thing i don't know how you you figure out and by the way all that might be accurate too yeah especially when you have that many talented people it's like yeah that could be accurate as well but

you just kind of got to buy your role here like their basis right he's probably very fucking good for sure he's probably like a very talented bassist. But for a lot of those songs, he's just, you know, kind of. And then whenever he's asked to sing, he comes and fucking kills it. It's like, oh, this guy could probably. Like, if this guy really wanted to, he probably could have done his own thing. But that's. He probably has his own. He probably has a few albums on his own anyway.

You know, they all feel like they can do everything. Yeah. Well, I think last night I saw a group of dudes that could. It was fucking unbelievable. They played over three hours? Eleven. I mean, three hours. They played minus 20, I guess, two hours and 40 minutes.

Think about that. So they're definitely in their 70s, right? All of them. Yeah. Man. That's a long time. That's amazing. They had a fucking symphony and a whole orchestra from indie.

Oh, really? Like the local? Yeah, and they said support your local musicians and everything like that. Then the guy that scored like Hotel California, Jim Ed something, he was there in the back. He got a big-time pop. It's like, oh, these are like music nerds that just did rock and roll. That's what it sounds like, and that's why it's so fucking good and everything just makes so much sense it was

i really enjoyed it yeah that's sweet good to know that they still have their fastball too because that like you know you do hear sometimes like some of these like legendary bands or like you go see them you know 20 years later or whatever when they've been touring it's like oh man like they stunk what the the fuck was that? That sounded like a scissor lift. It sounded like a fucking whole nuclear power plant shut down. What was that? What happened?

Are you okay? Fucking E and P went off. I had my little baby vacuum. Hand fan. Yeah, that's all. My little baby vacuum. What's that deal? You got a little baby vacuum deal?

What? I've burned through four of them for some reason. I guess when you pick up hot ashes accidentally, it shuts the motor off. So I've had to order four of these. He's burning it up. You know what I'm saying? You can't vacuum fire. I know.

I've got to pat it out before I do it. Yeah, smart. And just maybe don't start fires, too. Yeah, get a broom. I'm not starting fires. You're talking about them mailing it in, though, potentially. Or just not being that good anymore because they're old. Yeah, it's hard to sing. At 70 years old, I would imagine your voice doesn't feel like it did when you were 30.

The leader of the band, also the drummer, his name is? Don Henley. Don Henley. He carried a, what? Like a, for a. He did Desperado, right? Didn't he sing that? What's that, buddy?

Doesn't he sing Desperado, right? Didn't he sing that? What's that, buddy? Doesn't he sing Desperado? Oh, yeah. And by the way, that was, I don't want to give away a set list, second song of Encore. Okay. Second song of Encore, Desperado. We actually left after Desperado. Fair enough.

I think there was two songs left in the Encore. It's a great closing song. We found it from online. But yeah, he killed it. In their show, the show, it was hard for me not to just watch a lot of thinking i didn't i had my phone out two times one was during that 20 minute break and i realized all right i got to get on the move let me catch up and then another one was there was a string of two songs that i didn't know and they were slow and i'm like all right i'm gonna fall

asleep it's been a long day let me go see what's going on but i didn't want to distract them you know because i was in their eyes and if i'm putting on a show i don't want the motherfucker in the front row so i had to time it out where like i wasn't going to be seen by anybody there and i went pretty quick other than that had phone in the pocket for three hours just kind of enjoying the show watching the show so it's a lot of thinking at eagles concerts by the way a lot a lot of thinking a lot of like breaking down the show. They have this, they had this camera that was on a roller, obviously. And it was like a PTZ. And it was like, oh, the production of the live show here on the, on the screen.

I was actually like, oh, if we did that, we could still have like six cameras, PTZs. Foxy can still cut the show basically. And we can even get better shot. Like that's what I was doing for a good you know like 45 minutes like alright if we do this we gotta raise this obviously we gotta sell the back here yeah yeah that's what we're gonna do

and then we get back in alright life's been good to me Steve wake up it was crazy it felt like I was like experiencing life back in the day before phones though it was cool when big like i was like experiencing life back in the day before phones though it was cool it was a cool night when uh when big steve was taking a nap did you think for a split second oh no this dude's dead well i thought steve had way too much juice to ever die

to be honest early you know pinch his nose you gotta pinch his nose that's what my brother always does to me it pisses you off so bad if you're sleeping and someone pinches your nose i yeah your brother sounds like he's trying to torment you i mean i do it to him but yeah because you're a bully but steve was a good guy he's a nice guy just loved that he was at that concert you know he was just got a little too tuned up he just had two jamesons he thought he was only gonna have one jameson you know he thought he said uh steve was uh you know he didn't know who i was when i sat down obviously which is awesome incredible this is what I would like. And then a couple of the security people, while the music's playing, while they're still playing Hotel California there,

a couple of dudes come up like, hey, Pat, your disguise isn't that great or something. I had a hood up and whatever. I'm like, oh, cool. And they all had masks on, so I couldn't see. And it was dark, so I had no idea who the fuck any of these people were. And I'm talking to him. And he goes, did you know that guy just shook your hand and I said

I think I've met him or something he goes my friend's wife's brother is a security here he's supposed to come say hello to me I don't know if that was him or not or whatever and I was like oh I don't know I wish I could tell you man I was like I want to let you know though if he did think he just said hello to you it went very smooth

nice clean dab it was very good I think he just said hello to you it went very smooth nice clean death it was very good i think he was happy i couldn't see his face so he did a great job he goes oh thanks right and then he goes back to his thing and then somebody tells him i think who i was so as soon as that music stops he goes what's your name screaming okay and we're at the front row so his ear it's like echoing there i'm like uh hi i'm pat man he goes i'm steve what's your last name he's like screams at me i'm like uh johnson yeah he goes it's pat johnson it's not pat mcafee or whatever you're like this guy was i think he's a salesman of some sort like his energy felt like that whole thing he a lot of chris farley in him too wow um but he was a good

guy he was a nice guy but i was so bummed for me fucking was passed out during the only moment he was waiting for yeah the only moment dude it was stolen from him the standing was stolen from him for that entire time and then the moment for it to happen he's fucking passed out i was so i mean that's kind of on steve oh yeah i mean i i would have made it better if during the like if he'd been sleeping during those two boring songs, if you would have sat down next to him and just rested your little head on his shoulder and dozed off. No, you've got to remember, I was incredibly uncomfortable that entire time. My right ass cheek was asleep because I'm slouched down in the chairs.

Listen, I don't want to be too much of a prick here. We paid a lot of money for those fucking tickets. Those chairs, they mailed it in on those chairs. That's not fucking Eagles. That's goddamn this fucking place. Game Bridge. Yeah, this fucking place. So I'm on a steel chair that has a little pad,

but I got a fat ass and I'm heavy and I'm on. So my entire right leg was asleep. When Vince Gill was doing something awesome and I saw it on the screen, I was like, all right, I can watch this on TV. I should watch it in person. Getting to him all the way over here was a task. I mean, it was like quite a – I'd like fucking lift my leg up almost,

like here we are. So there's no way I was sleeping on that guy's shoulder, but he did sleep for a good 20, 30, I think. He missed a lot of bangers, I think. Yeah, I'm sure those weren't the only two Jamos he had too. Oh, yeah. But he had quite a few before he came in there yeah what's your name it was so loud i've never heard that somebody speak that loud

it's weird when they play the full album i know i went to someone invited my wife and i to a stevie wonder concert like five years ago general bob was in the box with us it was i don't know who got the tickets whatever my wife actually likes ste Wonder a lot. He has some hits for sure. And he's playing these songs. And we were like an hour and a half in, and I'd never heard one song he played. He's my wife. I'm like, what are we doing? What's he playing?

I have no clue. And then someone that got the box was like, oh, this is great. He's playing this one album that nobody knows about that didn't get the attention Stevie felt like deserved. he's playing it from front to back and i'm like okay let me see the album we look it up and i'm like i've never heard of one of these he's not i told my wife i'm like hate to break it to you you're not getting the hits that you thought you were getting so we can make a decision here now stay or go what do we do so hotel california obviously legendary album they played through it there's a couple songs on there though that nobody's heard of except for the diehard too by the way i'm sitting with yeah flanked by yeah i'm around them so whenever they

would play a song that i'd never heard of that was slow you know and definitely i mean i could see how people thought it was a good song i just have never fucking heard of it you could tell the people that were like explaining to other people about what this song was and like why you know they knew what it was in the fact that we are less of Eagles fans. There was a lot of that going on for a certain amount of songs out there too. Like, oh, you don't know this song? Like, all right.

No, I don't. Of course. People like that have to claim they don't like the hits. Like, oh, I don't want to hear him play this. If anyone else has ever heard of it, I don't like it because they're not a true fan. Well, I love the motivational speeches from the diehard fans in between the songs what do you like what still got it joe you know but he's got

ear things that he can't hear a fuck they can't hear a fucking word we're saying right unless there is an actual moment there's a couple moments where there was a callback moment where i think they probably turned it down in the ears a little bit so they could hear it that's like it's smack down when i have my headphones on like i cannot hear what the crowd is saying unless it's through the tv so sometimes i like legitimately if a chant is happening like i have to take off my headphones to like hear what it is and then i have to if it's not good i have to think of something that sounds similarly and then say it or whatever you know like because the headphones are i saw all of them had like the same exact headphones i'm in and people are yelling at me it's like those motherfuckers can't hear a word

Do they turn the mix up though for the crowd? For WWE? No no for like performers probably I don't think so They're all separate I know like talking to musicians Some of them want way more like crowd noise Some people that's how they want it

It sounded like they were super music people I would believe that Like it sounded like Instrument heavy Like super's there was a grand piano there was a fucking other thing so they just basically sold out symphony i think so yeah it's just like hey we're doing a show right now as opposed to like a whole give and take but maybe they could hear it i don't know the motivational speech is like timmy you're killing it i know i still don't know who timmy is just say thank you thank you

thank you if Joe was to respond every time he was yelled at though he is talking on the radio I mean he is legend

bro that life's been good to me at performance he had a big he had a big solo career didn't he well life's been good to me is his

and I don't think he had to do much more than that they probably just play that on the radio this guy's coming bang sell out the entire you know what i mean man he that him shredding too because it wasn't perfect right which i think is like the difference of live versus the album stuff like the you know the creative liberties that are taken whether it's

because he either forgets what he's supposed to say or he has missed the time where he was supposed to say something. So now he just, like he was remixing some songs. Yeah, that's why people love it because it's memorable. You know, like really when you go to those live shows, like there's a good chance that whoever's in there that night, that's like the only version of that song that, like the only people who are ever going to hear that are the people that were there.

It was awesome. I had fun. I guess they're coming to Columbus April 19th. There you go, AJ. There's four tickets to the front row available on SeatGeek right now, AJ. Buy them. I don't need the front row. You know my spot.

I like it. I told you, side stage or box. Yeah. You know, I don't think I'll ever say front row again, but I'm happy it was for a Joe Walsh show. Yeah. Experienced it. It was cool, man.

It was really cool. I don't think Don Henley would be too happy with you calling it the Joe Walsh show. No offense was cool man it was really cool i don't think don henley would be too happy with you calling it the joe walsh show no offense to him i didn't even see him it's not his fault it's just the drums were you know back middle and the drums were back middle right behind the box yeah you couldn't see it i could not see a little he played the drums and sing at the same time oh yeah very i saw that on like the uh on the tv very difficult from what I hear. Yeah, but by the way, belting it while still, I was very impressed with him,

but once again, I couldn't see it. I saw him on a TV. He might have been zoomed in, you know what I mean, from where I was at. I was closest to him, I think, out of anybody. But when he came up to the front and he started singing, and there were five wide right there, and I'm just looking straight up at him. I was like, holy shit, this is pretty fucking cool. This is the goddamn Eagles here. Good lighting, too.

The mood was a pretty good set. I bet. The vitamins were great. Hell yeah. Had to pour my bottle of water into some see-through plastic cups, though. So I was, two ice-cold waters wide. They became two very warm waters wide. Couldn't get any more waters. What? They became two very warm waters. What? Couldn't get any more waters because

during that 20 minutes, everybody in the arena was trying to get waters. What? The lines are 45 to 50 minutes long. What? We only have 20 minutes. What? Why is this building constructed the way it is? What? I see they're trying to make

some advances they have gone backwards what those are just some thoughts that i had yeah during that 20 minute period did you have neck cramps was it that kind of angle so the way i was kind of sprawled out because i was right in the middle so nobody was going in front of us right because if they wanted to exit they would go that way or that way so we we were the end of exiting left portion because we were in the middle. Nice. So able to kick the legs out, which goal number one whenever I'm going somewhere because I like the legs to be able to kind of go out.

So my neck actually wasn't that bad because I was laying. It was just the sciatica all the way down to the heel all basically. It was awesome. All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Tyree Kill is a goddamn dolphin man gump is gump is very excited gump was a park in his basement garage because there's oh for the show by the way indiana like well i mean they've been trying to rebuild that garage next to grain bridge for the past three years this fucking place dude can't get home they shut down all the goddamn roads to go home yeah just they there's never i assume

there's a city organizer that decides like when construction's done to what and we had a good couple years where there wasn't a lot happening and you know like there was just boards up all over everybody's fucking windows where i think they could have made some of the changes maybe that they wanted to make. But now, like, every parking garage was full. Oh, yeah. That was anywhere within earshot of the goddamn arena. It's like, how do we not have enough parking?

And then they shut down roads that lead you to and out. It's just, it was a clusterfuck. Yeah, shit show. That's why I miss fucking Hotel California. Bullshit. Sons of bitches. Damn you, Hawkset. Smart. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa why I miss fucking Hotel California. Bullshit. Sons of bitches. Damn you, Hawks. That's why.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Definitely. He's still there? Yeah. I don't know. When's the election? Two years? On a Tuesday at some point.

That is right. Super. It's a super Tuesday. 24. I don't know if he's going to win. I don't know if a lot of incumbents at local legislatures are going to win. Yeah, probably not. It's Rainwater's time. I don't know if he's running incumbents at local legislatures are going to win. It's Rainwater's time.

I don't know if he's running again. Rainwater's a goddamn gubernatorial candidate, please. You're a mayor. Goddamn, learn your fucking local politics. Yeah, no, that's on me. I was mixing up Rainwater's brother, who's also running for mayor. The Rainwaters

are like the Sterators of officiating. Gene Rainwater. How about Gene Sterator saying, my dad, you know, I was in it, and I got a cousin, Frankie, and then my little brother's in there, and then my son is in small ball. And then he said play, by the way. He was talking about for reffing, he was like, I play here, I play there.

I like that mindset. Like, that is how it is. The third team on the field, like, that is what we need every ref to have, AJ. A lot of promise and hope came from that conversation with Sterritore for me. I agree. But also to what you said yesterday before he was on the show, he absolutely should have some kind of school that he runs on how to deal with play. I like how they probably don't get as much training on, hey,

how do you interact with coaches? How do you interact with players? That's what Gene, I think, really specializes in well gene western pennsylvania paisan you know pittsburgh paisano i read where he has he and his brother have a steritor sanitation company is that real uh that would that would be hilarious that would be so italian i couldn't yeah i can't fucking handle how italian gene's territory yeah yeah everybody's saying yes they'reritore Sanitation. If I remember correctly.

By the way, they're efficient. They're quick. They're good business. In and out. Sanitation business. Sterritore. You know what that means. Uh-oh.

He's the best ref in the history of the NFL. That's right. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah, that's what we thought, dude. What's his other brother do? They're all unofficiated. NFL. That's right. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah, that's what we thought, dude. What's his other brother do? They're all unofficiated. Yeah.

Oh, okay. Are we sure? I don't know. These families, they get big. Who are these families? Italian families. Wow. Now he's saying me.

Geez. Geez. Are you people? Is that what you're saying next? Nope. Talking about the Sterators. Okay. I do love how he's talking about giving technical fouls.

He said, I got to whack you. Yeah. I got to whack you. Exactly. This ain't a murder, by the way. This is suicide. All right? This ain't a murder.

See what I'm saying? I got to hit you one time, put you down in your seat, and then if I got to whack you, anytime you see the hand go over like this, you know what I'm talking about. My father told me, you got a bazooka on you. Okay? That's around BBs. You don me, you got a bazooka on you. That's around BBs. You don't need to bring the bazooka. You don't show that thing, you throw that thing.

All the time. He goes, I was down on the south side last night. That's all. He's the man. But he talked about those 5% where you got to massage the game, where he said, Randy, get to the top of his route. He got his hand down here. Is he cheating? Kind of, but he got his hand down here is he cheating kind of but he cheated good so let's go ahead and let this thing roll or whatever that type of feel

i think a lot of refs are missing out on it's probably because they're scared to fucking death out there that's the problem gene had confidence and i think that's what gene's saying like 15 years of doing this you build up the confidence to be able to handle yourself in that situation so i don't know how it's fixed maybe the sterator standard uh school is maybe the answer and by the way we would we would love to invest in that if that was the case especially after talking to him let alone watching him yeah reffing's hard man i when i was like in sixth grade i'd reffed on weekends i'd reff these basketball games starting at like kindergartners up through like third or fourth grade and it was brutal Like the parents were horrible.

Yelled at me the whole time. Like it was a joke. I ref soccer. I think one weekend. Yeah. I threw, I threw one fan out. Dad.

I did do that as an up when I'd up behind the plate coaches, fans, parents. It was terrible. Made two terrible calls. I mean, absolutely terrible. And soccer.

Yeah. Like what are terrible? I don't even understand any of the calls in soccer when I'm watching my daughter. I don't get it. Well, there's like the let it play on, you know, type stuff. And then there isn't like I'm a big play on guy. And I think that's because when I played, it was like, hey. Is that for like you're talking like offsides or what do you mean?

No, like if somebody fouls you, but you feel like the team is still getting advantage, you should just let that thing go. And I'm a big like, hey, we should let this go. Like if the team is getting the ball you should just let that thing go and i'm a big like hey we should let this go like if the team is getting the ball let it go and there was a couple fans that didn't like how loose i was calling the game you know because i like a little bit more of a active in there and i decided this ain't fucking for me that guy stinks and so does this kid so why do soccer refs have to wear the high socks like they have shin guards on you don't like uniforms dude why do the uniforms are the worst oh are they all right are they yes son of a bitch i disagree that guy that uh reffed the

united states men's game what was his name the uh jamaican guy yeah he had all he he had shut the fuck up big one big one tomorrow night at the Aztec in Mexico, my friend. Who? USA. Versus Mexico? Plus 360 US's on the money line. Jesus. Let's fucking boost that.

By the way. That's not where people got curb stomped. Well, it is in that country. Yeah, it's around there. Liga MX is not pumped that you will remember that forever, but it's going to be hard not to bring up every single time. I feel for the poor victims. Yeah.

What do you mean? The governor said no one got hurt. That was not real. Dead. False flag. That's what I mean. He said people got hurt. He said nobody died. Well, yeah, but... They're dead now, actually. They just weren't at the time.

Rest in peace to them, please. Hey, we're back in the win and boost game. Hell yeah. Really? We tried to put a couple boosts up for March Madness. They were turned down. So now you have some that are...

Well, we put one in for the Pens last night. You know, for Sidney Crosby to score a point. And then for the Pens to beat the fuck out of the Columbus crew. And they did. It happened. That was almost the easiest thing of all time. They pitched, by the way, classic, classic pitch, Sidney Crosby to score a goal and for the Pens to win.

And I said, well, the reason why Sidney Crosby is the GOAT is because he creates opportunities. So he moved it to score a point and for them to win. I think he had a point on the first goal. He ended up with three assists. I mean, how you doing? Keep it moving. We did it. We're back. Everybody eats for them to win. I think he had a point on the first goal. He ended up with three assists. I mean, how you doing? Keep it moving. We did it.

We're back. Everybody eats shit. We win. Three apples. He gave Goetzel a wide open net, too, on one beautiful feed. Well, and he also scored a goal, I guess, and got taken back because of Goetzel's hand. Oh, Goetzel. Whatever the case.

Imagine if that would have happened and that was the boost. We would have been so mad. Furious. Something to think about, though, now. Goetzel will score a goal and the Penguins will win because he's gonna name out of your mouth okay i don't like you saying you're a kraken fan so why do you even care no no penn's fan yeah okay you're not a penn's fan talk about this many many times yeah well you shut up and keep rooting for an ahl team i was too busy watching mo cider fucking take out the flyers last night the flyers the night. The Flyers stink.

That's the best young guys in the league. You guys are fucked for the next game. I'm sorry. The best young guys in the league. Y'all, college hockey team. Way to go. That's awesome. Hey, watch guys play against Ohio State next.

This guy is 6'4", and he's taking bodies out. Congrats. Your season ends in like two weeks. Nobody cares. Idiot. Texas hockey, baby. You guys are right next to us. like two weeks. Nobody cares. Idiot. Texas hockey, baby. Never celebrated a cup, dude. Hey, maybe the Red Wings can build up their record by playing against,

like, you know, the Indy Fuel. There you go. That's an idea. By the way. They got a 6'4 guy that flies around. Oh, yeah. And they have a packed house. Oh, yeah.

I went to the Home and Garden show the same time that they had a game on Friday night. Did somebody hit the, uh, uh? I don't know. Gumpy. I don't know, but there was a packed house crowd. What is this guy's problem? He laughed at you for going to Home and Garden show.

Don't, that's a fucking good show down there. It's a great show. Yeah. Fucking patios were incredible. Jesus Christ. Probably had some generators out there, all kind of stuff. I did, I did actually, yeah. Yeah, they have an entire room set up there, too.

It's like a little home around. They had outside saunas. They were fucking sweet. Tell you what, I don't hate that those days are behind me, my friend. That was my idea to go show.

Amen. Amen. Amen. Gumpy lives in an apartment right next to a homeless man who smokes blunts rapidly on a bike

because he accosted Sam and I like four different times while we were walking to Gumpy's apartment to get our car back. He was coughing heavily, and I go, I just got my diarrhea here. You all right? That's why I was right here in the blunt, dude. I said, all right, respect, respect. I just gave him a good old respect and just kept it moving.

Then he stopped coughing. I'm like, oh, he's getting back on his bike right now. Didn't want to turn to look at him. Didn't want to make eye contact. We're the only two on the street. So then he rides his bike by us, and his feet slip off the pedals right next to us. Naturally. So now he's hit his dick off of the bar in the middle.

So, oh, now he's next to us again. I'm like, you're going to be all right, man. Just hit that blunt again or whatever. He's like, oh, my God. All right, all right. And then we keep walking. Then, boom, he comes up again. Bang, he's outside it again.

And he's like, you guys know where? Nope, we have no fucking clue where we are. We're lost too, pal. Sorry about it. All right. And then he rides the bike again. You know, this guy was awesome. Was Gumpy's roommate?

I think so, yeah. That alley at night is... Bad. Dangerous. You never know, my friend. It was a great conversation. I got pretty good pop on a couple of those, though. He came with something new each time, which I respect.

It was the blunt, then it was his nuts, then it was he was lost. So that's fucking... Those are three very good attention grabbers. He didn't even ask for money. He was just fucking wanting a conversation. Good guy. I don't know if he's a good guy. I think he's fresh out of jail.

We're not sure. Oh, no, the jail's right there. That guy, 1,000%, is fresh out of jail. He did have some hilarious tats on his hands, I saw, on the bike because he did find a hoodie from whoever. It was too small, but he did have a hoodie on. And the tats on his hands did appear as if somebody closed their eyes, wrong-handed

and just drew on it. Got him. He's still smoking blunts. Yeah. Got to respect it. He's living his best life. He's got a pretty sweet bike. The bike was very nice.

Really? Was it a dyno? It was like a mountain bike. Mountain? No. If he'd had front and back pegs, would you have said him to jump on? That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

That's the whole thing. If it would have had pegs, I think maybe a little bit more conversation but he could barely ride that mountain how awesome would that be if someone a random person took a picture of you and sam riding on the same bike of some random dude smoking blunts she's on the front pegs and you're on the back random homeless guy with your little your little hands on his shoulders all right we're going that way bud yeah well it would have been i mean it was raining last night pretty hard yeah i was gonna say i actually might have thought looked into that if that was an option but you could probably hire him throw him a few bucks to go over to the old house and

feed the animals the fruit loops and corn pops well i didn't have any money on me either so i knew that's what he wanted but i didn't have any money on me and it didn't look like he was carrying a square around with him you know so i wasn't wasn't going to be able to give him a card. There was no positive outcome except for a respect, respect, a couple of those, and a good laugh. I don't know. You'll be okay. I don't know how many times he gets that in his life.

I definitely forgot that you would need my fob to get back into the garage. Yeah, we were locked out. Didn't think that through. So we were stuck with that guy for like six months. Where was Goom? Were you sleeping? Nah. No, Goom? Were you sleeping? Nah. No, Goom doesn't sleep.

Goom doesn't sleep. I've been in Goom's lobby over there. I walked through the halls. I didn't go in his place, but nice spot over there. Oh, yeah. We were in his garage, actually. The garage. Same garage.

I parked in that same garage. Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah, it's a good spot. It is a good spot. Hard to get into because you've got blunts on a bike outside. That's right. Anyways, I bet that guy would have been an incredible whatever

if whatever happened didn't happen to him. Pat, can I make an announcement? Yeah. I just got confirmation on two guests for That's Hockey Talk tonight. Whoa! That's what we were waiting for. Let's go. That's what we were waiting for today.

Let's go. Officially official at 8pm, we will be joined by Kevin Weeks. Weeks! You know fucking Weeks, he's the guy who's breaking news all over the globe. In the middle of a windstorm, in the back of an electrical appliance

closet, in the middle of a studio, in his car, on a bike, next to that blunt guy. I mean, Weeks, this guy is a former goaltender. He breaks news everywhere. Fucking Weeksies on that. That's not all, Pat. No way.

That's not all. We're also being joined by Minnesota Wild GM and former Pittsburgh Penguins Stanley Cup champion, Billy Garrett. Oh! Billy G! Let's go. Hey, G-U-E-R-I-N.

You want to win? Get Billy Garrett. I mean,. Hey, G-U-E-R-I-N. You want to win? Get Billy Garen. I mean, that is an absolute stud. What a night. Yeah. YouTube.com forward slash that's hockey talk. Nick Moraldo. Goomp.

Also known as Goomps. Also known as Goompy. Also known as Bubba Gumpino. Gumpy. Ruppers. Stanley Cup champion. Weeksy and Billy fucking G, dude. Wow.

Can't wait. We got a show. Can't wait to be in the comments section. See you in the comments. See you in the box. The sin bin, Fox. Foxy, stop saying stupid stuff. Go in there and pipe down.

Foxy's right, though. It's good for the NHL if Detroit is good because people look at Detroit. Yeah, why do you think no one's cared for the last, what, five years? Because the Red Wings haven't been in the playoffs. Well, just real quick, you're right. Nobody cares about the Red Wings, okay? No, the NHL.

They just signed a deal with two fucking networks. Yeah, that's what they know. Red Wings are back. We've got to sign a deal. We've got to get people to see this team. Where are you back? You're bad at hockey. Who's the most upcoming team in the league?

Upcoming? The season's over. Who gives a fuck? Next year, we are winning the Stanley Cup. Thank you, AJ. No, Canadiens. Shut the fuck up. It's Columbus before Detroit.

No. No, it's Detroit. It's the Canadiens. It's Detroit. It's Hockey Town. The Cougars are on the rise. I got to go nap. I'm going to miss Hockey Talk probably.

If I had to guess, I'm going to miss. No, I'll probably wake. I'm gonna miss hockey talk probably. If I had to guess. No, I'll probably wake. I gotta hit the Stairmaster. I threw 400 punches yesterday in a fight. Before the concert? Yeah. That's why we were late. It fucking went to the fifth round. What are you gonna do?

I didn't expect that. I didn't expect it to go to the fifth round. I have, I did implement after the third round i brought a chair in in the room over to my corner nice and i actually sat in between rounds you know because they have the stool there in the virtual reality you got it and i just like stare at it every time and it was after the third round i was like i would actually like to see i would like that stool so i grabbed a chair in the room and moved it over, and I sat down on it. Boy, that minute went by a lot quicker when I was sitting down.

I was just staring up at it, and all of a sudden you hear 10 seconds. Oh, fuck. Stand back up. Here we go. Round four, dude. That's why we were late. We missed Hotel California. We missed Hotel California because I was boxing that son of a bitch.

Man. That's the fight game. Yeah, that's a good bout. Yeah. Bro, I was boxing that son of a bitch. Man. That's the fight game. Yeah, that's a good bout. Yeah. Bro, I was blown up. I was blown. I mean, I was blown up. After that fight, I ended up just laying in my carpet.

And then I forgot we had to go to a concert, obviously. Sure. In that moment because I was just trying not to die. And then Sam gives me the old, what are we doing? I was like, oh, fuck. That's right. For the concert tonight. And I rolled over.

And I used that same chair to get up. And then I just kind of crawled upstairs. And then we showed up 25 minutes late into a 40-minute set and took a 20-minute break and had him do a hot lap and then watch fucking dudes rock out. Hell yeah. Can't wait to watch that talkie talk tonight. Can't wait. I feel like I'm in really good shape, though. I feel like I'm in really good shape, though.

I feel like I'm in really good shape. You still got plenty of time. Yeah. 12 days? 11 days? 12. Because it's Wednesday. One, two.

11, I believe. 11 days. In my head, it was 12. So we got less days than I thought. Including today. 12. Oh, yeah. Today counts. Yeah. I feel Oh, yeah. Today counts.

Yeah. I feel good, AJ. I feel real good, actually. Do you know what you're going to wear? Oh, that's a great question. No. Because I got to have... Wear Speedos.

I don't think so. Speedos. I would not. Do any guys choose to wear those? I know Brock used to wear that Back in the day Or do they get Those get pushed on Because I would imagine

Nobody wants to wear those I think guys want to wear it Yeah Guys that wanted to be Like professional wrestlers Like that is the Wrestlers model Give me the boots

Give me the tights The whole thing Like do they ever get comfortable Wearing that though And wrestling in that I mean Randy Orton's been wearing it For like 25, 30 years Yeah

I guess so Yeah I don't Yeah By the way he is still my god shredded as soon as i got back on raw he was there and i was like what's up dude he was like i didn't see it heard it went well i was like ah i was probably the shits he goes oh you're one of those guys and i was like every time and i just walked right by or whatever he's like oh okay it was kind of a cool little moment there you know like oh you're going to think you stink every single time yeah yeah every time until I watch it I'd like to watch it back oh I didn't

fuck up and ruin the business that's good that's good that's kind of how I that's kind of how I view everything you know oh did I ruin the business let me watch I mean not great but I didn't fucking ruin the business okay alright that's good that's good I That's good. I'm pumped, AJ.

We'll see you in Minyana, pal. How did Ohio State Pro Day go, you think? Pretty good? Yeah, I guess. I don't think they're throwing. They're, like, throwing right now. It started around noon, I think, doing, like, weight room stuff, but quarterbacks weren't going to throw until 3, 3.30. How come they're having Cardo Jones throw?

Why not? I mean, you need people to throw. I mean, CJ Stroud is throwing, too, the quarterback who is currently there. So, both of them. Is that something like bigger schools? Does Ohio State do that often? Older players? Troy came back.

Troy Smith came back and has thrown in a few pro days. Is it to get a look or is it just to help? I think both, honestly. I think, yeah, maybe someone takes a shot on you. Maybe you look great and they take a shot, but also they need somebody with an arm that can throw to them. Hey, Neil Brown, I want to throw next year at the fucking – There you go.

There you go. Make it happen. Do they have any guys? Yes, West Virginia has NFL guys. Well, no, I know they did, but this guy, I don't know. Currently. What is going on? They got Graham Harrell now.

Graham can throw to him. Can't recruit, dog. Well, Graham's not trying to get back in the NFL't know if there's currently. What is going on? They got Graham Harrell now. Graham can throw to him. Can't recruit, dog. Well, Graham's not trying to get back in the NFL. No, Jam's not. He still can slang that thing. He's got a point. You know? We are out of here.

I didn't hear what someone said. Ty started quoting Coach JB. Yeah, he did. I heard a JB accent. I heard a JB accent over here and we will let that one be. See you guys tomorrow. Hammer Don's in 15 minutes at youtube.com forward slash

hammer Don. That's Hockey Talk tonight at 8 o'clock with Kevin Weeksey, Billy Guerin, Nick Moraldo, Gumpy, and Stanley Cup champion Mike Rupp. It's a hell of a day. We can't thank you all enough. See you tomorrow. Another big show tomorrow. Huge.

And if you guys know any bookers, I've made this bird call a few times, and it is a niche business. Yes. But if you know anybody, if you know anybody that could, we are back in the game of looking for bookers. We are attempting to find bookers for the show.

If you know anybody, that'd be fantastic. And I understand other show hosts might be looking at me as if I'm lazy in doing all that. I concur, all right? I'm at the point where I don't want to be booking every fucking movie. Everybody has bookers. No one's thinking that. No, I think in the podcast game, you know, like where we come from,

where we hail the internet game, everybody's kind of doing their own. But I would like to, you know, where we come from where we hail the internet game everybody's kind of doing their own but i would like to you know formally reintroduce myself to the booking community that we would we would like a booker we would yeah i have some other stuff going on at the moment i don't want to wake up with anxiety though oh my god we got nobody to talk to i think every show which there aren't many of them that go daily for three hours probably at Booker's. I assume. A lot of them have networks too, which also have Booker's. They go into the network. True. So that's what we need in our network.

I'll make a Twitter account. Hashtag that. Somebody's going to steal it. Let me make it. Whatever they steal, we'll just make another one. I'm going to make a Twitter account. That's going to become our Booker until we find a Booker for this. We need one though. We need one. It's not a fun job. It's actually a terrible job.

Probably going to hear no a lot. Our show is impossible to book for from what I've alleged experience. It's going to be tough to book for our show because we don't have a lot of networks have a lot of glad handers. We'll put you on this thing. You do this. You do that.

We do not have that, but we do have a position open for a booker. If you know, glad handers. Hey, we'll put you on this thing. You do this, you do that. We do not have that, but we do have a position open for a booker. If you know anybody that could potentially produce some results. Now, every booking company that we try, it ends up being the same exact thing. Give us a list of 400 people you'd like on the show. Okay. We'll take time to make this list that I think just gets thrown in the trash. Yeah, typically. I think it just gets thrown in the trash and then just like whoever can, I mean, it's just, the last people we were with were great.

They were very nice people. Everything was awesome. But I do believe that our show has become very difficult to book for. So we are looking for somebody that we will pay mightily to. That is something we will pay for. Absolutely.

If it takes the morning. Ah, fuck who's on the show. You know, I'm about done with doing that, AJ. I'm about done with doing that. You know? I get it. Someone should be doing that for sure. Aren't you?

I'm not great at it. Me neither. I fucking stink at it. Because I don't care. Like, you know? I just, yeah. It's tough to bug people. I'm not the guy.

Some people like being the guy to set things up. Oh, I got you. No, you want to go to dinner and cool club and all that. And people want to be that person. I'm like, I am not that person. Steve wants to do that from the car. Yeah. Yeah.

Maybe call him. Steve enjoys doing that. If he's awake, tell him to, to call in and send a resume. I bet you Steve is moving something right now. He's a salesperson. He, there's something on the move right now, you know, because he got his hangover out of the way probably about midnight last night. Yeah.

When he awoke after Desperado and kind of finished that thing up. Anyways, we're looking for a booker. Be a friend, tell a friend. We can't thank you enough. Hammer down. Then that's Hockey Talk. You all are the best humans on earth.

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