The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 627 - The NFL Officially Changes The Overtime Rules, Darius Butler, Sam Roberts, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: March 29, 2022On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys react to the changes that are being made to the rules from the league meetings in West Palm Beach including both teams now getting a possession in Overtime ...no matter what, Matt Rhule dominating the dance floor last night, where some of these free agents available may wind up, and everything else happening around the league. Joining the show to chat about the overtime rules being changed, becoming a massive fan of F1, if he thinks Julio Jones might wind up on the Colts, his thoughts on Baker Mayfield, and what's going to eventually happen with Jimmy G is a 9 year NFL vet at Defensive Back, host of the Man-To-Man podcast, Everything DB, and friend of the progrum, Darius Butler (19:53-48:33). Later, co-host of the Jim and Sam Show with Jim Norton on Sirius XM, host of the Notsam Wrestling Podcast, WWE Contributor, and friend of the progrum, Sam Roberts joins Pat and AJ to give an extensive WrestleMania 38 preview, give his thoughts on what Pat needs to do to get a victory over Austin Theory, his thoughts on Stone Cold returning, when he first started working for the WWE, what his plans are for Saturday and Sunday, and much more (1:02:16-1:33:17). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, beautiful people.
We are five days away from my WrestleMania debut.
It is Tuesday, March 29, 2022.
This show begins now.
Can't thank you enough for joining us here at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show.
I believe we're breaking some news at some point today.
Whoa.
Not for us.
It's for somebody else.
A family friend of ours.
Of course.
Breaking some news for a family friend of ours.
Can't wait for that.
There is some news around the NFL that we will certainly cover,
and we have two guests today.
Darius Butler will join us in about 17 minutes.
And Sam Roberts.
What?
Yeah, Sam Roberts came up in conversation yesterday
because although A.J. Hawk has been a massive fan of his
because he listened to the show Jim and Sam
for a long time on SiriusXM.
AJ has never gotten a chance to meet Sam
Roberts. We saw him on Friday in Brooklyn.
I've known him for a few years. He
knows nothing about the sports, but knows
a lot about sports entertainment.
Cannot wait to chat with him about all things happening
in his life. And also, AJ gets to
meet somebody that he's been a fan of for a long time.
That's right. Look what we're doing here.
How about it, huh?
How about us? Unbelievable. I always try to look out
for people and the fact that I'm getting, you know,
like a AJ Hawk dream moment
here live on the show in about an hour
and...
11 minutes.
Okay.
That should be absolutely fantastic.
The Toxic Table is here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner.
NFL news kind of stinks right now.
Yeah, it does.
It really does.
And I'll tell you what, the more days that go on,
the Packers still don't have any receivers.
It's starting to get a little unsettling. Still a lot of free agents out there.
Still a lot of big-time players.
Allegedly, the internet is saying
that the Colts have made offers
to Jarvis Landry
and Tyron Matthews.
Whoa.
The internet said it,
not me.
I believe it came from
at Colts Militia
on Twitter
or on Instagram.
Who do they know?
I do not know.
They could be making that up,
but those are just two names
out of the entire list
of free agents
that are still available.
So don't be too bummed
if your
team hasn't made a splash play yet in free agency we're in the draft process now there's going to be
a lot of og still around afterwards i mean it is getting a little bit uncomfortable for some of our
like my team has uh zero weapons right now right none now michael pitman jr michael strahan and
there's other guys that i'm forgetting their names right now, and I apologize.
I was actually going to say one person's name, but I didn't know if I had to name 100% right or not.
Didn't want a Julian Blackman situation with the show because the show's already on thin ice over there with young players that we don't really know as well as we should.
Correct.
Sorry.
Sorry.
With that being said, make the fucking playoffs.
Exactly. All right. And we'll know you're not. No. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. With that being said, make the fucking playoffs. Exactly.
All right.
And we'll know you're not.
Boston, no.
That's a scene.
No, no, not Julian.
Julian's a hell of a player.
Yeah, he's unbelievable.
But, you know, everybody.
I mean, everybody else.
You just need to relax.
I am a Colts supporter,
but we don't have any weapons
that we brought in
that are like splash hires
or anything like that.
T.Y. Hilton's still a free agent.
I mean, there's a lot still going on
for a lot of our teams.
We'll keep an eye on the situation.
Ian Raporto's hobnobbing down there in
West Palm Beach. Let's not expect any
breaking news to come from him at all
that is worthy of a positive conversation on this
show. Although there is some stuff coming
out of the league meetings. At Tone Diggs
is here, one half of the hammer. Dad!
Cowboys. Tone, it's great to see you. You look
fantastic. Cannot wait for the next edition
of T4 Tones Tasty Tournament Talk
because the graphic
that we just had created,
top of the line.
We'll get into that at some point.
But the news coming out of
the league meetings right now
is fascinating
because everybody's there.
Every GM is there.
Every owner is there.
Every coach is there
except for Mike McCarthy.
That's right.
He's working.
Big Mike ain't got time for the fucking league meetings.
Mike Tomlin, king of the pro day, goes to these league meetings
because he's missing a couple pro days and going to these league meetings,
which, by the way, why would you have every GM, coach, owner,
everybody be at a place while there is actual pro days happening
for the next generation of the NFL?
Is that real or is that not real?
Seems a little short-sighted for sure.
Are there Pro Days happening right now?
Yeah, Sam Howell was yesterday while the meetings were going on.
So if you're a school scheduling the Pro Days,
probably try not to do it during the league meetings.
Liberty even knew that.
Yes, they did.
Liberty was like, no, let's not do it.
I don't know what's going on anywhere else.
But this is kind of stupid.
I think that's stupid.
It's just hitting me now. I think that's stupid.
It's just hitting me now that I think that's dumb.
But nonetheless, they'll figure it out with film and Zoom and everything like that.
Mike McCarthy not able to make it because of the amount of studying he's doing to make that team better.
Mike Tomlin actually said, I hate being here.
I'd rather be at a pro day.
But it's kind of just a part of it.
Bill Belichick's there.
All the new head coaches are there.
There's a lot of chitter-chatter.
There's media settings where they sit down at a table all by themselves, the coaches.
They have orange juice and water
and then there's a scrum around them
and then they bounce around table to table
and they are just to sit there for like 45 minutes
and answer every question. So there is some
information coming out of the league meetings. For instance,
Jimmy G probably going to be a niner
next year.
Now, none of that makes sense to any of us because we heard Jimmy G say goodbye to the Niners faithful.
Yeah.
And we heard the front office basically say, Jimmy's been great for us.
We've been very thankful for Jimmy.
We just have to go in a different direction.
Ian Rappaport's reporting that the 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan here at the NFC Coaches Breakfast,
which is what we just talked about.
I don't know if any of them eat, by the way.
Yeah. I'm not 100% sure.
Says he sees a scenario where Jimmy Garoppolo is on the roster in 2022
and acknowledged the surgery delayed trade talks.
As for if both Trey Lance and Jimmy G are on the roster,
Shanahan declines to name a starter.
Okay.
So we have to pick through all the coach speak,
and we don't want to give up any leverage on any potential trades
or anything like that. This is vastly different than what we just saw a couple weeks ago
before the shoulder surgery which none of us knew was coming i wonder if the rest of the nfl who
maybe had their eyes on the italian handsome quarterback for the niners didn't know was
coming as well he gave a thank you goodbye they gave a thank you goodbye then it kind of moved on
no trade talks we always thought he was going to be a domino that was going to fall.
Obviously, whatever's going to happen with Russell Wilson came out of nowhere.
Then Matt Ryan is on the move.
And then Deshaun Watson's on the move.
We're like, oh, Jimmy G's got to be next then somewhere
because there's a lot of teams that need a quarterback.
That did not happen.
The shoulder surgery allegedly spooked some folks.
But now it's like, yeah, why would they let him go?
Like, why not?
They can do another year of the whole Trey Lance learning how to play NFL quarterback.
We don't know if he needs to or not.
We're just telling you what could happen.
And he leads that team yet again that is already stacked and packed and ready to go.
They haven't been in any other conversations with any other veteran quarterbacks, I don't believe.
I'm not 100% sure.
But they are Trey Lance or Jimmy G, and nobody wants Jimmy G right now,
and they're not going to get good trade value.
Why would they give him up, I guess, even though just a couple weeks ago
it seemed like he was as good as gone?
Yeah, especially now that the carousel seems to have stopped
because even Carolina this morning or yesterday morning, Matt Rule was saying,
like, you know, we expect Sam Darnold to be in the running
for our starting quarterback position.
We think he's going to be playing better football.
We love Sam.
We've always loved Sam.
So they might be out of it.
We looked at, like, seven, eight different quarterbacks.
But for the Niners, for a guy as good as Jimmy G is, I mean, I guess you could cut him.
But if you don't know what Trey Lance is yet, you might as well keep Jimmy G around.
In worst case scenario, you know, like week four or five next year, some big quarterback gets hurt and now he's of supreme value or but say they're 4-0 at that time with Jimmy as a starter.
What do you do then?
Well, you keep Jimmy as a starter.
I think that's going on.
If they go into the season, he's the starter.
I think only an injury would turn to Trey Lance, right? I just, I'm fascinated by it all because all these teams that have these quarterback situations,
Matt Rule, who I guess was tearing down the dance floor.
It was a great worm.
There is a report.
I don't know if he did the worm or not.
That was Christian Pulisic.
But Christian Pulisic did a little half-ass worm, but at least he gave it a go.
Score three goals, you do whatever you want to do.
But allegedly, Matt Rule was tearing down the dance floor last night.
It says, at Joe Bucks fan.
Unexpected happening of the night.
Panthers head coach Matt Rule owning the dance floor at the NFL owners meetings night party.
Matt Rule, listen, don't get it twisted.
He has aged like a president since becoming a head coach in the NFL.
He's gotten paid $70 million guaranteed for the next four years.
He's going to be able to continue to collect that money.
He left Baylor.
He was just a ball coach winning, having success.
Now he's got the stresses of who's his quarterback, businesses, negotiations,
new stadiums, new owners, everything.
And we thought this was maybe killing him.
We thought maybe he was dying.
He's not dying.
He's living his best life.
This guy's on a dance floor doing his goddamn thing.
What are you saying well for?
I'm worried about his liver because I think
you look at his weight.
I think Coach Rules may be hitting
Grandpa's cough syrup a little bit too hard.
That's why he's having such a good time
on the dance floor. I hope that's not the case.
Well, there is rumors of
that strictly because of how he lost
the file in the clothing. Well, it's strictly because of how he looked.
That is happening. We don't know if that's real or not
or if that's a shot. I read about it. No, I was reading about it.
Okay, all right. Well, Zito, it's in the calendar. Put it in the
calendar. Let's lock that in.
Ty, mighty rich of you
to be the one. Isn't that Foxy?
Isn't that my better? Oh, you
too, Foxy. You fucking booze.
I love the dance floor.
I love Matt Rule because of this now. We would
like to let Matt Rule know that if he is just boozing all day every day
to drink away the sorrows of being an NFL head coach,
he's not the first, he won't be the last, but we are worried about him.
That's right.
And this might have been the first time that he's heard music.
True.
In the last 18 months.
Literally.
He lost the music.
He might just be in that film room getting boozed up all by himself.
So the first time that he was boozed up and he heard music, he's like, wait a second.
What is this?
Matt Rule goes out.
What does that dance floor look like?
Unless McVay's out there doing power push-ups,
I feel like there's some old moves coming out on that dance floor.
I assume Matt Rule has a diesel truffle shuffle.
I bet he's taking his shirt off.
He's going bananas.
And it's nice to see that Matt Patricia's legacy is being carried on by
Matty Rule losing all of his shit.
Everybody close your eyes.
Just imagine this.
Matt Rule, Bill Belichick, Coach McDaniel, and Cliff Kingsbury.
Two hops this time.
Oh, my God.
That would be awesome.
Anyways, Matt Rule was certainly
moved on from Sam Darnold.
Certainly moved on from Sam Darnold
publicly. Hey, we're in on everybody.
This owner, we're going to pay anybody
anything as long as we can get a winner
here in the Queen City. Sam Darnold didn't say
shit.
San Francisco 49ers.
Hey, Jimmy, you might as well go tell everybody goodbye now, right?
We're kind of moving on. You saw what we did. We traded up last year, even when they publicly
traded up and made a pick. And then this year, the, hey, this is what we're doing. We're going
to move on. Jimmy G hasn't said shit. I think that is why the Baker Mayfield thing is only
going to continue to grow amongst other front offices, because there are quarterbacks in the
same exact time as Baker Mayfield's in that are handling situations much better than they feel he would be.
Although I am a human that also wears, you know,
I would tell somebody to go fuck themselves,
and if they were doing this, it's like, well, you don't deserve me now.
I would hopefully put myself in a better position
that they wouldn't want to do that, but we are where we are.
And injuries happen and everything like that.
But I think that goes against Baker.
What's going on?
Like, if they go back to Jimmy G, and he's a starter next year,
and he's at training camp, like, leading the boys and everything like that,
and then Sam Darnold, same exact thing, it's going to be like,
these dudes were publicly outed by these teams.
And now Sam Darnold, much different than Jimmy.
Jimmy's had a lot more success.
Sam Darnold's been thrown away already once before.
Not that he's – I mean, kind of.
The Jets stunk.
Panthers stink whenever he's – I mean, kind of. The Jets stunk. Panthers stink whenever he's in.
I mean, he might be a guy, who knows,
maybe it takes him six years to graduate into a good quarterback,
and he's getting the opportunity to do all that.
So more power to him, although not a lot of people are happy about it.
But Jimmy G's had a lot of success over there.
He's gotten paid a lot of money over there.
That's the difference with Baker is Baker hasn't been paid yet,
so I get it.
But these public situations with these guys potentially coming back, I don't know. That's incredible mental toughness and a great ability
to do business and separate personal from business because Jimmy knows if he's starting for the
Niners, that team's a good fucking team. He's getting paid a lot of money. I guess like 25
million or something like that. He's got a good contract, got a great team. He's probably pumped
for that opportunity. Even though bygones be bygones in the past, you guys said you want to
move on two different years. You trade up, you want to move on two different years you trade up you want to move on last year you
had me say goodbye that's just something i think that other teams look at whenever they look at
what baker did and then what everything else is happening it's like hey not only is it every other
position in the nfl competition gets brought in and we decide if you want to do it but also in
the quarterback position and a couple different teams, right now it's happening,
and you're going public and everything like that.
Once again, I understand why he's doing it.
I'm just telling you why other front offices are probably like,
we don't want that guy in our building,
and that's where Baker kind of currently sits, I think.
Yeah, but Jimmy doesn't seem more likely that maybe if during the draft,
a team that's looking at a quarterback and maybe misses out on somebody, then they make a move for Jimmy
because John Lynch said what?
It was two twos that was allegedly offered.
And say, I don't know.
In his pocket.
Yeah, in his pocket.
Even if it's like the Steelers.
And I'm not saying they will because they have Mitch now.
But if they wanted to get a quarterback at 20,
like Malik Willis gets picked earlier than that,
the Steelers then offer two twos for Jimmy because he because he's also what a month month and change into his rehab so
you kind of have a good feel on where he is with his shoulder and mitch could start for a while and
then potentially hand it over to jimmy but you'd be paying two quarterbacks so you don't know if
they're your future pretty good money but with following up what connor just talked about there
tomlin said that they're probably going to draft a quarterback yeah he actually said that i believe
two missy matthews plum high School grad by the way where the ballers ball
and players play shout out to Missy we're actually friends much closer with Diggs I played soccer
though with their little brother great family good people love Missy love that she is like a voice of
the fucking Steelers now at this point but yeah Tomlin said they're going to draft a quarterback
which is why you just mentioned what you mentioned. They're not the only team that is quarterback starving,
looking to draft a quarterback.
And if they fall off the board, which is what a lot of these free agents,
a lot of these free agents that are still sitting around after the draft
have a much clearer picture of what everybody's roster looks like,
who needs what.
Steelers also said that their goal was to get a quarterback this offseason
without giving up draft capital.
So yours was a hypothetical for sure.
But like, so the thing is like with Jimmy and Baker, like who?
So would a trade up in the draft be giving up draft capital?
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, it would.
No doubt.
So at 20, who's going to be there?
Pickett?
Maybe.
I mean, if it's Pickett, if it's Ritter, if it's Willis.
What about Corral, dude?
You're all out. I love Corral.
I've always loved Matty Corral.
He didn't even make your top three quarterbacks
in this draft class. Well, as long as it's not
Sam Howe, and I got nothing against the kid.
He just looks too much and is built too much like Baker,
so I can't have that happen. Yeah, it's tough for Sam Howe right now
with everything going on with Baker.
He's immediately going to get a fallout comparison.
And also, I watched Sam Howe's pro day, a on with Baker. He's immediately going to get fallout comparison.
Also, I watched Sam Howe's pro day, a couple of those throws. Real casual.
Yeah, very.
Kind of out to lunch.
See any from Corral's? What's that, pal?
Catch any from Corral's pro day?
Yeah, Chris Sims told me it was great. See the release?
Yeah, it's a quick
release like Marina, but also has a little side
like Rich Gannon.
It's a Clyde Christensen, but also has a little side like Rich Gannon. Oh, yeah.
Best of both worlds.
It's a Clyde Christensen throw, to be honest.
The quarterback coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, formerly of the Colts for a long time,
has coached everybody.
He's a friend of the show.
He has that little, it's like a side, it's like a three-quarter almost,
like a three-quarter quick release.
You like it or don't like it? It was interesting.
Sim said that a lot of balls on the ground.
At the pro day?
Yeah, a lot of them.
See, a lot of people don't.
Remember, we asked this question.
Does anybody have a bad pro day?
If the first thing you think of from a quarterback's pro day
is a lot of balls on the ground, probably had a bad pro day.
Yeah.
That guy probably didn't have a great pro day.
But he's an athlete, that guy.
Oh, yeah, he can move.
Arm talent. Arm talent. Through the roof. Yeah. SEC. Yeah. That guy probably didn't have a great pro day. But he's an athlete, that guy. Oh, yeah, he can move. Arm talent.
Arm talent.
Through the roof.
Yeah.
SEC.
Yeah, of course.
Had it.
He's the best.
Yeah.
Who was the quarterback before him?
He was a really good quarterback, actually.
He was a running back quarterback.
Rich Rodriguez had him play.
Now he's just a wide receiver.
He's going to be like Edelman.
Yeah, I can't remember his name.
He's a player.
That kid's going to make it.
Charlie, maybe?
No.
Plum?
Plumlee? Masonum? Plumlee?
Mason?
Miles Plumlee?
Miles, yeah.
Wanted to do it.
Both of them, yeah.
Both of them.
Both brothers.
Both former Duke centers.
I don't think it was that.
This was the Ole Miss quarterback before Matt Corral.
Because when we called the Egg Bowl, he was the quarterback.
And they said if this dude just wanted to be running back in the SEC,
he'd probably be the best running back in the SEC.
But he's our quarterback and our running back
because Rich Rod ran the spread thing.
Then as soon as Lane Kiffin gets –
John Rhys Plumlee.
Plumlee.
Nick.
Good call.
Nick.
Nailed it.
I remember watching that game because you called it,
and he was running all over the place.
He was unbelievable to watch.
And his film that I watched before the game.
Right.
Actually, Hasbeck showed me. Hasbeck was like, hey, you're going to before the game. Actually, Hasselbeck showed me.
Hasselbeck was like, hey, you're going to like this guy.
He's a freak athlete.
He was.
I think he played baseball as well for Ole Miss.
Like, he's a guy.
But Corral takes his position as soon as Lane Kiffin gets in there.
That guy goes right to slot.
Let's assume he's going to make the NFL.
He's a great athlete.
Very fast.
Very quick.
And he sees the game through a quarterback sign.
Oh, that's important.
Before that, it was Jordan Townsend.
Up breaking news.
Andy Dalton just signed with the New Orleans Saints.
Wow.
Adam Schefter's breaking that the Saints are signing former Bears quarterback,
Dallas Cowboys quarterback, Cincinnati Bengals quarterback,
Andy Dalton to a one-year deal worth up to $6 million,
including $3 million guaranteed per source.
Obviously, playing bonuses involved there. So they bring in james winston on the quarterback uh contract pretty
good 20 some million 21 million or something yeah three year 21 million uh tasem hill is focusing
fully on tight end this offseason so it appeared as if this was the jimmy winston show which it
still is because his contract is larger than andy dalton's and that's the easiest way to see who's
going to be the starter who's's going to be the starter,
who's not going to be the starter at the quarterback position.
Great backup, though.
Incredible backup.
If Jameis gets hurt again, if Jameis gets a case of the pre-Lasik eyes again,
if Jameis gets a case of the turnovers, whatever it is,
which we're not saying he will, you have a great backup
who's always going to be very steady.
Andy Dalton, his career is going to be fascinating to talk about.
Cincinnati, no scouting department, no indoor facility, no nothing.
They were able to make the playoffs multiple times
and have 11 win seasons in a 16-game schedule.
He almost won MVP one year.
Boom. Dominant.
Like perfect for the Cincinnati Bengals almost, it felt like.
Found that new haircut too, became super handsome.
Then they move on
they go the joe burrow era i think he was cut after the day after trade deadline on his birthday
yes bingo i think so they cut him before like he could even be traded or explore options in his
entire situation cincinnati with zach tether was not great i mean it was not a great ending but it
never is i think for, for almost everybody.
So then he goes to the Dallas Cowboys.
He plays for them.
He gets decapitated on the field.
Yeah.
And nobody helps him up.
And it's like, holy shit, they hate him.
He comes back later.
They start winning games again.
If you do recall, when he came back later, now that roster's loaded
and everybody's mind.
But they started winning some games.
He goes to Chicago.
They draft Justin Fields.
We don't want you to play. They thought they were going to get Russell Wilson before they get winning some games. He goes to Chicago. They draft Justin Fields. We don't want you to play.
They thought they were going to get Russell Wilson before they get Andy Dalton,
so it's quite a letdown for everybody.
Andy Dalton has been in a fascinating career path for a long time,
and I assume he's just the same exact guy every single day.
I assume he's pumped to get down to the Saints and get this opportunity
just to continue to play ball because he is just a Texas kid at the end of the day who loves football.
Well, and it's awesome for them because now Taysom Hill just has his spot.
Don't have to pay him that massive contract.
He's just another weapon on the offense.
Joining us now is a man who probably played against Andy Dalton numerous times.
Ladies and gentlemen, the host of the Man to Man podcast and everything DB, nine-year
NFL vet who played every position in the secondary, Darius Butler.
Hey, yo!
What's up? Yo, yo, yo. Hey. We good?
I got the AirPods in. We good? Yeah, I don't know.
It might have been us, too, because you
and Rapaport both did the AirPods
last week. Didn't work. Yesterday,
Rap had the AirPods on. Worked.
You're wearing the AirPods now. It worked.
So maybe Tim Cook figured out how to fucking do life.
I feel like an update or life. Thank you, Tim.
I know you haven't been paying attention to football at all.
We've all been following along on your Twitter.
You love F1 right now.
They got me.
They got me.
I mean, I'm in.
They're coming to Miami in May, I think.
I'll definitely be there.
I've been watching the series on Netflix.
I got sucked into a race this weekend, and I like it, man.
I like it.
I went to one race in Indy 500, won Indy 500.
That crowd, that whole scene was electric.
I saw you shot Peyton Place out there.
That was dope.
But this F1, man, it's dope.
So, obviously, Indy cars and F1 cars, different cars,
but the most similar American-type car is the IndyCar to the F1 car. Now, the F1
I think is the dream of all racers
from around the world because the amount
of money that's involved in it, the
fanfare, they're like superstars over
in Europe, like soccer player
superstars in Europe. They are
big deals, but there's only like 15 of them.
I think it's a very expensive sport to do
as a child. I've not gotten into F1.
I've watched a lot of IndyCar.
I know a lot about IndyCar.
What do you like about it?
The cars, the lifestyle, what do you like about it?
Yeah, well, I mean, once I saw how much those guys got paid,
I'm like, damn, you know, it's got to be something to it.
I saw they were building a big track down in Miami.
I go, I'll check it out.
I saw it on ESPN, and, you know, they do the whole pre,
just like a football game, do the whole pregame thing.
And I was kind of locked into the different storylines.
And then, like you said, you see the amount of money that goes into these cars and sponsorships.
You know, Ferrari, McLaren, all these cars that we grew up knowing.
And now seeing, you know, the racers, how cutthroat the business is.
It's dope, man.
Getting that live shot from the drivers, you know, to their people, like back and forth what's going on it's uh it's dope man i bet you f1 is very excited you're in on it and i think that
was the entire purpose of the netflix series by the way is for hey we can kind of educate people
on what our sport actually is that aren't from around here because over there it's huge huge
right and every big name thing that you every expensive thing you can think of in your head right now,
you just thought of, they are sponsors in that thing.
So the sponsorships, anytime you see the big,
like Tom Brady has like all those massive watch companies and everything.
It's like, oh, those sponsorships are big.
Those are big money because those are big companies.
Over there, like Rolex, I think, is one of their biggest sponsors.
And like every
cliche tag uh tag every cliche rich name is involved with this thing it's like oh so all
the money in the world is right here what is it i haven't gotten into it i'm happy you have
let's talk about the internet hey let me know you hate it as soon as i put it hey man let's get pat
tell pat f what's dope man let's make him love it. Hey, man, if you don't like it,
you don't like it.
I don't know anything about it.
I don't know anything about it.
I'm a little jaded.
You know,
my car crashed.
Right.
I had a car in the Indy 500.
It crashed.
You know,
that cost me a lot of money.
So, yeah.
Hey, it's an expensive sport.
Yeah, well.
You guys should go to Monaco together.
Oh.
We go to Monaco?
Let's do it.
What's Monaco? That's their Super Bowl? Yeah. do it what's monaco that's our super bowl yeah yeah
beautiful that's where all the super yachts are parked right off the track on the ocean gorgeous
like the whole city oh d but we're at a point now where we can rent one of the super yachts too for
like a week or so yeah like i see on steve harvey's instagram like i think i can get one of
those now for like a week or so you know maybe we should do that one that'd be cool i believe
that's where last year a driver got knocked out of the race
and then just walked right off the track onto a yacht.
And then drove away?
No, no.
I just chilled on the yacht until the race was over.
Smart.
That's some dope shit.
That's some dope shit.
I actually just saw a clip off from one of the shows
where this dude, car splitting two, on fire.
Dude jumps out. Some crazy shit, man. I'm locked in. They splitting two, on fire, dude jumps out.
Some crazy shit, man.
I'm locked in.
They got me.
F1, you got me.
I stayed away
as long as I could.
Hey, congrats, F1.
Good job, F1.
I got you.
I'm locked in.
Darius was all in
on the NHL there.
Uh-huh.
He was a big hockey guy.
Florida Panthers,
pretty good team.
Pretty good.
We're up there.
Hopefully,
you don't get
that President's Cup
because that's bad luck. Get the President's Cup.
You don't usually win. That's a big hockey guy.
That's true.
Wow.
Diva really seems like he's taking the same
approach I do to a lot of things.
Learn one thing about it. Go ahead and hammer that
home. That's impressive to know about the President's Cup.
President's Trophy. No.
It's not a cup.
No, it's a cup.
It's a cup. Diva, it's not a cup. No, it's a cup. No, it's a cup. It's a cup.
Drink out of it.
It's a cup.
Deebo, let's talk a little bit about the NFL right now.
Jimmy G might be the quarterback for the Niners going into next season.
So you think about last year they traded away their entire future
to get up to number three to get a new quarterback.
It was very public.
Jimmy G still on the contract.
Jimmy G still in their plans, they said.
Jimmy G handled it, you know, smile on his face,
went to work, did his thing. At the end
of this season, he said goodbye to people
and immediately, like, hey, it's been fun. Thank
you all so much for being nice. The team said,
yeah, we're going to let him seek a trade.
We're going to figure it out. He was great for us. They did
a whole goodbye. Then you think about, like, the Sam
Darnold situation. Sam Darnold for the Panthers.
Now, I'm not saying that he has accomplished
anywhere near the same amount of things that Jimmy G
has, but the Panthers were clearly
in the quarterback conversation publicly
with every single team that could possible.
Now Matt Rule's saying, you know, Sam Darnold
actually looked pretty good last year. You know,
coming back around. With the Baker Mayfield
situation happening the way it happened,
do you think with the way Jimmy G
has handled this, the way Sam Darnold has handled
this, it's only going to spread the word around general managers
and front offices even more like, yeah,
Baker's not cut out to be a quarterback?
Because if Jimmy G's their starting quarterback week one,
this is already after goodbyes and smiles.
Yeah.
And you handle it like a real professional,
which a lot of positions have to.
Baker, I think, is going to get labeled a distraction
in this entire thing.
I honestly believe that.
Yeah, Baker can't stay there.
You know, he can't stay there and be a backup.
And I honestly don't think it'll work for Jimmy G to stay in San Fran either.
I think, you know, they're coming out and saying,
oh, it's a possibility he'll be in the plans, blah, blah, blah.
But that's BS.
I think they still want to move him.
We've all seen and heard reports about them telling Trey Lance
that he'll be the guy going forward.
Like you said, they already said their goodbyes.
And that's one of those positions where once that two paces out of the two, it doesn't go back in.
Same you saw with Deshaun Watson and the Browns before.
They knew he was actually going there.
Matt Ryan with the Falcons.
And the same, the Panthers, they damn sure better move on from Sam Darnold.
I don't know what that's about.
I know they're in the quarterback market in this draft.
Free agency, I think Baker Mayfield would be a better fit there
than Sam Darnold would.
But I think San Fran, they got to move on from Jimmy G.
The Colts, you heard them say that they would have been in on Jimmy G
if it wasn't for that shoulder surgery.
And that's what kind of threw things off.
When Jimmy G decided to get that surgery, when he did,
that threw off the whole timeline that the 49ers had in mind so now they're kind of
trying to figure it out on the run darius butler watches a lot of film darius butler one of the
highest football iqs i've ever been around at any position i got a chance to watch it live in person
in team meetings and on a field absolute stud you like baker a lot huh you like you've said he's
better than a lot of mitch i think you said he's better than whoa whoa whoa that's bad no i do not like baker a lot but i did say i think i think
the baker mayfield disrespect has gone a little too far though i still think he's a top you know
22 type quarterback he's a middle of the pack quarterback he played hurt last year which he
shouldn't have um that's bad on on his agent really bad on him but you know you can't stop a player from playing if they really
want to play uh but i think baker is a decent starting quarterback in this league we saw him
have success early we saw him have success um obviously that playoff year i think he's still
a good player if you have weapons around him um but yeah i i'll leave it at that.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Cause early there,
I kind of,
I guess I kind of cornered you into being like a beggars.
Great.
I'm not,
I don't want you to think,
I don't want to say like,
Hey,
I'm high on Baker,
Baker,
but he's not a backup quarterback.
He's a starting quarterback in this league for sure.
Okay.
Awesome.
I'm excited to see what he ends up doing and where he ends up going.
The Jimmy G situation.
Fascinating as well,
just in mental toughness and being able to separate personal
from professional feelings.
Not everybody's able to do it.
I don't know if I'd be able to.
But if Jimmy's able to go back and do his thing, that's awesome.
We have some breaking news, Darius, as you are on with us.
Ian Rappaport is reporting live from the league meetings
that playing rule proposal number one was amended.
Both teams are now guaranteed a possession in overtime,
but it's now postseason only.
It was approved per source.
So there was three different options going.
The Eagles and the Colts proposal has passed, and it's permanent.
Both teams guaranteed a possession in overtime postseason only.
Okay, there was another option where the Titans pitched
that if the team that receives the kickoff scores a touchdown,
they must also score a two-point conversion to win it outright
without the chance of the other team getting the ball.
Now it's both teams are guaranteed a possession.
Darius Butler, who played defense in the NFL,
probably feels the exact same way as every other defensive-minded human
I've ever talked to that has been associated with the NFL.
Tomlin's come out and said the overtime is just fine because Tomlin is a defensive guy
and every other defensive person you hear speak like AJ, Darius, and literally anybody
has said, yeah, we're a part of the fucking team to make a stop.
You win the goddamn game.
If you want to get your quarterback back.
Do you not enjoy this at all?
I heard you grown immediately upon reading that, D-Bud.
You know, as a as a competitor, as an athlete, like you said, as a defensive player,
you know, you think, you know, get a stop, get the ball back,
and give it back to your offense.
You got to score.
You saw the Bengals do it in the playoffs right after the, you know,
Bills fans cried about it about the week before.
But as a fan, you know, this is good for the fans of football.
You would have liked to see Josh Allen get another possession,
all these other great quarterbacks that are in the league.
Right now, I think, is probably the most talented we've seen a quarterback position.
It's probably 10, like, legit, legit dudes.
So, I mean, yeah, the NFL, you know, they're going to do the decisions
that make the most sense when it comes to money.
And I think as a fan, it's a good move.
So, D-Butt but uh shepherd just followed up
and said that the regular season overtime rules will remain the exact same so for a large portion
of it the defense still has a chance to make a play and get their quarterback and their offense
back on the field but i think rapid port brought up a great point yesterday whenever aj hawk
was explaining similar to what you get get a stop stop, dude. Like, hey, get a stop.
Like, that's what you're supposed to do.
It's a team sport.
It's not quarterback versus quarterback.
Ian Rappaport brought up a pretty good point.
With the way the rules are now and with the way offenses are,
like, you're going to get got.
A defense is going to get got, I think, at some point.
Do you not agree with that?
Do you not think that the game is –
As far as yards, yeah.
I mean, how the game is designed now and every year is getting it's leaning more towards
the offense they want more scores uh point score and all these so yards yeah but as far as
situational football two minute uh situations red area holding teams to field goals and not
touchdowns defense can still win in those situations. So I think that's where teams will separate themselves.
Like I give a damn about yards if I'm a D coordinator.
It's about two minute, third down, you know, two minute before the half,
two minute at the end of the game.
And, you know, holding guys to three and not giving up seven in the red area.
That's what it comes down to.
The yards, the RPOs, the throwing up the ball. And it's a spot foul like it's always been.
You see more quarterbacks and receivers doing that and getting away with that.
Those seem to be an issue for defenses.
But as far as the situational stuff, man, that's where you got to really dial it in.
And that's what Belichick has been so great at over the years.
Oh, yeah.
And that defensive side of the ball.
So that whole spot foul throw it up thing that you just mentioned,
and listening to you say I could give a damn about yards, by the way,
is fascinating because, you know, as a punter,
there was a couple game plans, I believe,
where I was not told maybe until after I witnessed it happen.
You guys were not worried about, hey, we are going to bend.
We are going to bend.
We are not worried about that.
But in the red zone, we are going to lock this shit down.
We're going to give up three as opposed to seven.
That's an actual strategy going into some games, I think, right?
Yeah, and that's another thing you just made me think of as a punter.
So, like, when you used to pin the guy, pin the offense is deep.
That's another situation, coming out situation.
Because if you pin them inside that 10, the likelihood,
you look at the
numbers the statistics of statistics of them driving down and actually getting points are
way lower when they're pinned inside that's another situation another weapon to have is a
good punter but yeah some teams i'm playing the chiefs we're not coming in saying hey we're going
to keep patrick mahomes under 300 yards we're going to keep this offense under a certain amount of yards.
You can have 570 yards.
If you only got 24 points to show for it, we should be able to put up enough points on the board to win.
I had a couple alley-oops to do, but.
Ooh.
Yeah, a couple.
I would like to want to.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
A couple alley-oops.
It felt so good.
It was like, yes, yes.
And especially because it was a dude I liked doing it to.
I'm like, yes, yes. This is was a dude I liked doing it to. I'm like, yes, yes.
This is the entire purpose of field position, actually.
Absolutely.
Those quarterbacks, man, especially those mid-quarterbacks,
when they're backed up like that, you know, pause,
and the asshole gets tight.
They get tight back there.
You're scared to throw those out routes, scared to get picked off,
just going to the crib.
And as an offense, sometimes you're just trying to get a first down
just to give the punter enough room for a normal operation.
So as a defense, you love those situations.
Okay, so I forget what you said exactly.
I was going to go somewhere,
but we just got into a great conversation about punting,
and I'm never going to stop that, ever.
I believe – fuck.
Yards.
No, before that.
You said something else. Oh, man. We're. No, before that. You said something else.
Oh, man.
We're talking about the overtime rules.
We're talking about scoring defense against stops.
Quarterbacks.
Quarterbacks.
Yeah, fuck it.
It was a good one.
We'll get back to it.
You gave such a great answer.
You know what I mean?
You gave such a great answer there early.
You're like, hey, you're killing it on the microphone these days
dude honestly hey appreciate learning from the best man no no i just forgot completely what i
was gonna do my thing no i just lost completely what i was gonna uh ask you uh let's move on i
watched a video russell wilson and jerry judy practicing at russell wilson's uh little compound
thing there he's got a fucking hose this guy dude has a couple, I guess it's some seams or posts or whatever the fuck,
and he's throwing, they have the camera from behind him.
He has an absolute rocket.
And the way he's talking to Jerry Judy, who's already on that team
and been on that team, he is the offense coordinator, right,
because it's a brand-new offense coming in there with Hackett.
That's a perfect situation for Russell.
He's supposed to be the leader.
He knows the offense just as much as everybody else,
so he's comfortable and confident.
That's right.
That's right.
Future over here?
That's right.
Right here, future.
Right here, future.
Right here, future in the backfield.
Come on, fucking A.
Okay, you got future in the backfield.
Okay.
Good, good, good.
Good, good.
Nice.
Now go foot, foot.
Foot, foot.
Foot, foot.
Outside, outside, outside. You got to love this guy as a quarterback. Probably, you know, not, good. Fit, fit. Nice. Now go foot, foot. Foot, foot. Foot, foot. Outside, outside, outside.
You got to love this guy, the quarterback.
Probably, you know, not the best friend, but, man, the quarterback, man.
Well said.
Well said.
In the back, in the back.
Good.
Good front, good front.
Right here, right here.
Boom, line up, line up.
Boom, good.
All right, come on, snap the damn ball.
Get it. Get the play going. All right, come on, snap your damn ball. I think he was just going through all the different alignments.
I believe they were doing a quick walk through there.
But you're honestly right.
I don't know if we'd enjoy hanging out with him on a very regular basis,
although, you know, Sierra seems to enjoy it.
Right.
Hey, Russ, you just, you know.
Keep doing it.
Shout out to Mr. Unlimited.
When you see that Phil,
he's got the backyard.
So he probably doesn't give a damn about friends in that situation.
But like I said,
as a quarterback,
as a CEO of your company,
that's the guy you want.
So I'm excited to watch out of Bronco.
I'm excited to watch Judy too.
Cause Judy's special.
I had,
we had Xavier Howard on the man to man pod.
And we asked him last season,
who was one of the toughest covers
because he was a guy who travels with a lot of number one receivers.
And surprisingly, he said Jerry Judy.
So I'm excited to see his ascension at a receiver position too.
Well, they look to be on the same exact page.
And Russell Wilson at that press conference, when I watched the press conference,
just like you just said at the beginning of that video, and then it obviously ran on too long.
Like, man, you'd love to have that guy as your quarterback i watched that open press conference
and it was the most quarterback speak i'd ever heard naturally out of a guy with a suit and
you know he looked at like hack it a couple times in the middle of it was like we're never out of
it by the way you know like what i'm like that's the fucking guy like that's i don't need to hang
out with him i'm just a fan now.
But I would have been pumped if that dude was the Colts quarterback.
Now, with that being said, let's transition here.
Matt Ryan looked good coming out of that plane.
Hey, Matt Ryan looked good coming out of that plane.
The suit was incredible.
His press conference seemed to be relaxed, comfortable, very confident.
That team needs a guy.
I don't know how long he's going to be playing for.
He doesn't have a clue either in all of his answers.
Do you like Matt Ryan coming to the Colts?
I like it.
I like it.
It'll be important, obviously, what they do going forward.
How do they build around him?
I would have loved it if it happened a little earlier, you know,
with, you know, getting – so that way you can pitch some receivers
to get in the building.
You know, there wasn't that many big money receivers on the market,
but you could have maybe at least tried to get Allen Robinson
or somebody in the building, but there's still some guys out there.
But I like the Matt Ryan move.
He's a professional.
He's a guy that's seen it all at the quarterback position.
He's not going to try to do too much.
He's going to get on his back foot and try to hit guys in the spot
and hand the damn ball off to Jonathan Taylor.
There we go.
I'm excited about that, man.
Did you hear?
I got a question in the press conference.
What do you know?
Shout out to Kyle, man.
I saw that.
Yeah, dude.
Kyle delivered it like a pro, by the way.
Yeah.
That's the only thing we expect from Kyle.
Yeah, you're right.
They do.
I mean, they hold their own media sessions in there every day in that training room.
I mean, one of the most electrifying group of people on earth
is that athletic training room in the Indianapolis Colts building.
Seriously.
That's a fact.
I mean, you've got to love training.
You only play with one mob, but usually training rooms,
that's where it goes down.
And that was a top-notch training room out there.
Shout-out to the guys.
Everybody's in there.
At some point during the season, everybody's in there.
And nobody's in there happy, right? Nobody's in there. At some point during the season, everybody's in there. And nobody's in there happy, right?
Nobody's in there with a good mood.
So they literally have to set the environment that isn't miserable
and get people to do things that is miserable.
I mean, like rehab is miserable.
It hurts.
But it's a necessary evil, obviously.
So, like, the physical therapist, the athletic trainers, the doctors in there,
they have to be so positive and talk shit, too. Like, you have to be able to keep up you got because as a player
you fucked up that's when you that's when you're at your lowest because you're used to you know
walking around like you know damn near you got to have like an invincible mindset and then when you
broken down those guys got to build you back up so it's it's important man and you know the coaches
whether they're really looking at you different or not, you feel like they are.
As a player, when you're hurt, you're not doing shit to players.
It's just a completely different vibe.
So being in that training room, having the right training room is important.
I think that's why a lot of training rooms, you know, Outlast, head coaches,
general managers, like these – Hammer's been there for what, 35 years at this point?
I think since the Mayflower came over from Baltimore.
Like, no exaggeration.
Like, I'm serious.
Thank you.
And same with John Scott.
Frog's been there in the equipment room.
Like, the backbone of buildings from the players' perspective is normally such a top-notch.
I mean, in my perspective, all top-notch people, but I don't know every other building.
You know, so I don't have a clue what other buildings are.'s why when the colts win i'm like so happy because of them
like hey i got a lot of friends in that building still like i'm happy that they get to experience
it because they live and die with the goddamn team as well big facts yeah they're drinking
whiskey after losses on the plane like god damn we didn't sleep all week and we just fucking lost
the goddamn game i mean we're in here 4 a.m all
the way to 10 p.m 11 p.m every day and we can't fucking beat jacksonville their fans are dressed
like clowns i would love to have heard that this is not an actual conversation that i had i am just
reenacting what it probably was like as a human that had seen them in similar type losses in the past.
But they're a great group.
Great group.
Great group of humans.
Imagine that room after they lost to Jacksonville last week of the season.
They didn't get into the playoffs.
Devastating.
Sick.
Sick playing right home.
Devastating.
I mean, that's usually a good one.
Usually good. I probably have one bad playing right home from Jacksonville.
But damn, I know that had to be sick.
Hey, since we left, by the way, I think things have changed mightily.
You know, I think that has been vastly different.
You always had to pick six against them.
I think every single time.
Always had to.
That was close enough.
The closest game I was going to get to home.
So, I was going to have, you know, 25, 30 people in the stands.
So, I had to show out.
That was a couple of them.
Shout out Chad Henney, Blaine Gabbert, all my god hey you always look so smooth too it always felt like you were running the routes
the ones you picked six because you basically were or whatever and then the catch the hands
were always just so yeah you were i scored more touchdowns in jackville And I gave up So I can live with that Hey that's what I'm talking about
Hey he was
So you know I was the holder for Vinny
And then if Vinny got hurt
I'd be the kicker who would be the holder
So we were looking for who the holder would be
And my first thought was like
D-Butt's like the smoothest athlete I've ever seen
Basketball, catching
He's probably the guy
You fucking stunk at holding
You were terrible at that.
Hey, that shit was tough.
It's a little different.
I'd rather be lined up across from Julio Jones to be holding that ball for Vinny
for a game or holding the ball for you for a game winner.
That shit was a little – even in practice,
I had that sweat dripping down the middle of my back.
That shit was tough.
You broke my finger, too. No, no, I had that sweat dripping down the middle of my back. That shit was tough. You broke my finger, too.
No, no, I didn't.
By the way, for the people that hold balls,
you know, like for somebody who's
above average at kicking footballs,
like if they're in the NFL,
if they hit your hand,
they are not in the NFL.
Or even a good college guy.
So that whole thing.
But the whole thought...
That shit sounds good, Pat.
Yeah. It sounds real good. But the whole thought. That should sound good, Pat. Yeah.
It sounds real good.
Yeah, just catch it.
You know, the laces are on the snapper, and don't worry about it.
Just put it down.
Like, you know, it sounds good, but that should get real.
Man, now that I'm realizing that I still can't touch my toes,
I don't know how I didn't just rip a hammy
and D-butts out there in the middle of a goddamn game.
Because I think there was somebody else chosen, but when push came to shove,
who would Tom McMahon actually would have went to?
It's interesting.
And it's probably this fucking guy.
Probably.
He wasn't our best option in practice, but I feel like in the game,
he'd be able to do it.
Let's move on.
The boys have some questions.
D-Butt, you're the man, dude.
Go ahead, Ty.
D-Butt, I think you were really big on Kyle Hamilton, the safety from Notre Dame.
I think at the Combine, he ran know high four four low four five but then
at the pro day they're saying he ran you know like four seven five how much is that yeah how
much does that actually matter like other than that probably affecting his draft stock like how
do you go from like a consensus top pick to all of a sudden people watching at your pro day and
be like oh shit this guy's slow?
Yeah, for the evaluators, they're not going to take a safety, I would say, top five that's running that type of time.
Honestly, I wouldn't have ran again if I was him.
I think a low 4.5, high 4.4 is a good time for a big body like him.
You turn the film, his range is unbelievable.
So that 4.7 is hard to get out of your head, but his range, his football instincts.
I would still draft him at the top,
but a lot of these evaluators are old school, man.
They look at numbers and it won't spit.
I actually talked to an evaluator last year before the draft
because me and my brothers were debating who would be the first.
This was well before the draft.
Chase and Smith out of Alabama, the Heisman winner.
And I'm like yeah
the guy was like there's no way they're taking smith that high simply because of his frame how
big he is like if he was two inches taller 20 pounds heavier he would have been a top five pick
and that's kind of how these guys are programmed so if he ran a 4-7 today i think that'll hurt him
but he'll still go in the top half of the first round but if he stuck with that 4-4 i mean he
could have easily been a top four,
top five pick.
So I think that hurts.
He thought he was going to run a 4-3?
Yeah, I don't know.
I would have stuck with that, man.
Yeah, me too.
Jonathan Davis ran a 4-8-1.
Yeah, what?
6-6, 3-4-1.
I mean, Jonathan's ledger ran like a 4-7, I think.
But you turn on that tape, some guys, you know,
they got different football speed.
At Hamilton, his football speed is elite.
I agree.
I agree completely.
That film is the thing that matters most in this whole thing.
But that is just startling almost because he's on the border like he's a potential number two pick.
Right.
And then it's safety in the world we live in, in the world that we currently live in, in speed is everything in the NFL.
Yeah.
currently live in in speed is everything in the nfl yeah that is very surprising because i would assume you learn some technique just automatically being a high draft prospect that makes you run
lower than a four or five if you're this i just automatically assume that i honest in that because
i know there is an entire technique to the thing right i mean that's it is you can overthink it
you can you can be tense um and I think the guys that just run.
I mean, if you're fast, you're fast.
You just run in certain things.
The start is the most important thing.
If you get your start down, I would assume you probably had a bad start
or some bad.
Is it cold as hell out there or something?
There's conflicting reports.
Officially, they're saying he ran a 4.5.
Oh, okay.
It's not a move stick set, but I saw something the DJ said that might have been juiced a little bit.
Yeah, bingo.
Moved the sticks?
Yeah.
That's where I saw it, that he ran a very poor 40 time at his pro day.
Daniel Jeremiah, that's all he does is pay attention to that stuff.
Bingo.
There's another guy saying he was there clocked, and he had it at 4.63.
Who's this guy's thumb?
Also, by the way, everybody's thumb.
Is that Casserly?
If that's Casserly's thumb, I would trust it.
That's like for punting, right?
Hang time is something that's very real.
And there's some people that are just absolutely terrible at it.
And like two tenths fucking ruins an entire career, potentially.
It's like a 4-8 sounds a lot different than a 4-6.
4-6 sounds a lot different than a-6 4-6 sounds a lot different than
a 4-4 yeah i mean those are just both in running and in putting those are different worlds yes
absolutely uh go ahead connor yeah d but he just mentioned julio jones do you think he is someone
who would come back to indianapolis and maybe or come back to play with matt ryan in indy um or do
you think because the number two is taken and the number 11 is taken and Mark Pittman refuses to give it up that he probably won't come to Andy?
Jeez.
I think he wore, what, six at Bama or eight?
I think it's still a chance.
I would love Julio to come to Andy, though, man.
Obviously, you've got to report Matt Ryan.
He's still a guy that can be productive.
He's not a guy that I would hang my hat on and say,
hey, this is going to be our top guy week in and week out.
You're going to have to manage him throughout the year,
throughout the week to get him to game day every week.
But you can't substitute all those reps that he's already had with Matt Ryan.
And that's what Matt needs right now.
He needs guys that are going to be in their spots.
He's got a line that could block him up.
And so he needs guys that could beat coverages and make tough catching.
I think Julio is still one of those guys.
Tom.
D-Bot, now that Taysom Hill is strictly focusing on tight end,
is he a future Hall of Famer at that position guaranteed?
No, he's a weapon, though.
He's a weapon.
I'm glad the quarterback experience is over.
Experiment is over.
Did they sign Andy Dalton, too?
Yeah.
Yeah, today.
Three mil guaranteed.
Three mil guaranteed.
Six million max. That's it? Yeah. Backup. Clearly backup. darling too yeah yeah yeah today three mil guaranteed three mil guaranteed uh six million
max that's it yeah backup clearly backup yeah clearly backup but yeah i'm take hill is a weapon
he's a weapon he's big fast dbs don't really want to see him in the open field obviously he can
affect the special teams game as well uh no hall of fame real no well we don't know we don't know
yeah jamis winston might like him more than drew breesley he'll have a folder reel No We don't know We don't know Yeah Jameis Winston might like him more than Drew Brees
He'll have a folder though
No we don't know
Personal protection
You're a Hall of Famer in my book
Ladies and gentlemen
Darius Butler
Thank you
In his perch
One half of the hammer
Died
Cowboys 10 digs
Died
What are we betting on right now?
Last night was a bad night
NHL
Oh hey hey
Last night NCAA Women bad night. NHL. Oh, hey, hey. Last night, NCAA Women's Elite Eight.
Yeah.
NC State.
Connecticut.
Did you see that buzzer beater?
Oh, yeah.
It was like a half-court pass, precision chuck up over the, like,
four people down into a corner, bucket splash, three-point ice,
electrified.
Unbelievable. Did you see it? Of course I did. Did you watch it, Tom? Yeah. Like four people down into a corner, bucket splash, three-point ice, electrified.
Unbelievable.
Did you see it?
Of course I did.
Did you watch it, Tom?
Yeah, and I also watched Louisville win, too.
Didn't sound like shit.
Did I?
Doesn't it?
Because I said exactly who the team's wearing who won.
Is that what you're betting on or not?
No.
Yo, those ones I just like to watch.
I don't want to sway myself one way or the other.
You just like to enjoy it.
The competition.
Yeah.
Yeah, last night, tough night for the boys.
What happened?
I shouldn't have asked today.
Gumpy shaking his head profusely back there.
Gumpy, the other half of the hammer.
God, Cowboys rocking his trash.
Welcome to the team.
That a baby goop?
He was shaking his head.
No, he looked great in the tarp, obviously.
It's a good tarp. Yeah, looked great.
It's a good tarp.
Looked great in the sweater, Gumpy.
Congrats on being a part of the evil.
Thank you, trashers.
Yeah, yeah.
AJ Galante, by the way.
Great GM.
Great GM. Great GM. Top tier. Getting drafted. Campbell yesterday. Connor Campbell yesterday. the evil yeah yeah uh aj galante by the way great gm great top tier getting drafted uh
campbell yesterday connor campbell yesterday and uh bubba gumpino today and you know we just
announced that their international ice wars first event which is hockey fighting basically with five
judges is may 21st you can watch that on fight tv tickets go on sale next week for that. It's in Canada, by the way.
Okay.
I have zero parts of that.
Saskatoon.
I just want to let everybody know.
I have zero parts of that.
But I am very excited for the Galante family for being as nice as they have been to us.
Whenever that documentary was hot, AJ made time to come on this show,
chit-chat with us, and did that entire thing.
Now they got something going on.
I am lucky to be the one that got to travel up there and bullshit with them and announce
that for them.
How much fun was that?
Hey.
Sweet.
I had a fucking blast up there.
Good time.
Great time.
Delicious food.
Delicious Italian.
And we haven't.
A couple of canolas.
First time we've had actual real Italian food.
You have to go outside of the city to get it.
So it was really nice.
Yeah, it was very good.
It was really good. It was really good.
It was unbelievable.
Topper's Pizza.
You guys said some disparaging things, but, you know.
Who?
What?
You.
Whoa.
I don't know if you saw what Jimmy was wearing.
Huh?
Jimmy Galante?
Ever heard of him?
No, no, it's okay, Jimmy.
Yeah, right!
Jimmy gave you the pass.
It's more about we're worried about
potato breath over here. I didn't say anything
disparaging. No. You did.
I didn't say anything.
You did. You did.
You did. You did.
You did. You did.
All right. Anyways, what are you
betting on then? I know Dumpy's
a member of the Tractors. You guys are just losers?
What's going on? It's a weird time where the NBA and NHL
we're like less than 10 games away
from the playoffs. So like that
time stinks. We're down to the
Final Four. Congrats. Who cares?
What? And then
Tony. Opening days
next week. Oh, first five.
First five is where the hammered down
boys live. I can't wait to see you guys bounce
back. Congrats on going through some failures for the first time in show's history.
Here we go, boys.
You guys need to turn it around, though.
That's a big part of the gimmick because you guys always win.
Tonight's a new night.
Yeah, you guys will.
Yeah, you will.
Tonight.
Hey, tonight you'll saddle that victory horse once again tonight, won't you?
Yeah, no problem.
Pull it right out of the barn.
Volume shooters tonight.
We'll shoot our way out of it.
That's right.
You're actually going to say, victory, and then the horse is going to go, no. You're going to pull that horse right out of the barn. Volume shooters tonight. We'll shoot our way out of it. That's right. You're actually going to say, victory, and then the horse is going to go, no.
You're going to pull that horse right out of the barn, and you're saddling nothing.
You're like, congrats to Hammerdown Boys.
Way to go, boys.
Come on, now, boys.
Joining us now is a man who just learned a lot about me all of a sudden by watching a
video I made this past weekend alongside the boys and the Galante family, Kato Kaelin and
Canadian Charlie.
AJ, how does it feel to be co-host alongside such an Italian paesan?
Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke.
AJ, I don't know if you've seen that, and I'm happy you got to watch.
I've seen that.
I've seen it.
Was that the first time you played that?
Yes.
Okay, good.
I was wondering, like, did I miss this at some point, this play,
and I didn't know it?
So I'm glad I got to see it.
And, hey, if Jimmy Galante says it, hey, it's as good as gold,
so I can't go against him.
Man.
I'm against you doing it, but I can't go against him.
Well, I'm against you even thinking that you're smarter than Jimmy Galante
when it comes to something like this.
I never said that at all.
Hey, Jimmy's listening right now.
Jimmy, you heard him.
Hey, you heard this bullshit.
Hey, Jimmy.
Hey, Jimmy.
He knows.
Jimmy's a smart guy. He knows. Jimmy's a smart guy.
He knows.
I agree with everything Jimmy's doing and everything that he says.
That doesn't mean all of his associates I have to be 100% in on.
So whatever you're doing, if he's the one who goes, yeah.
All right.
Well, listen.
You're the one that don't answer FaceTimes from Jimmy.
That's right.
Okay.
You're the one that is now like, whatever he says.
That video was ridiculous, though.
Watching you every three seconds just start going crazy.
It was actually very funny.
Thank you.
We didn't know exactly how to do the video.
The cuts to Zeke got me.
Oh, yeah, Foxy Flick, by the way.
The baby Foxy.
Foxy is unbelievable at picking the pieces that tell a story, right?
Like, hey, we got to get through the story.
He's very good at it.
And it takes a lot of time to go through all the shit so like foxy takes a lot of time to
make those things even if it's a three minute video or a four minute video or a 10 minute video
like there's a lot that foxy has to do we're all very thankful foxy thank you very thankful foxy
for that with that being said we didn't know exactly how to do i mean there's like a 15 20
minute conversation it's pretty fucking good too but we didn't know how to to do it. I mean, there's like a 15, 20-minute conversation. It's pretty fucking good, too. But we didn't know how to.
Hey, what's Kato doing?
What is Kato Kaelin doing?
Hey, in the next episode, okay, you'll find out from the man himself.
In the next episode from this conversation that we had, you will find out from it.
I asked that question.
That was my exact question.
And it'll be worth a listen.
I think it'll be worth a listen. I think it'll be worth a listen.
Okay.
I'm guessing Kato was involved somehow.
He was like a host, MC, something.
Maybe he was a celebrity fighter.
I don't know.
I can't wait.
Comedic relief.
Bro, this guy was – you're talking about – and I think people say I have a lot of energy,
and I'm very thankful for that.
I think that's a compliment.
I think having energy is a good thing.
But, man, there is – people don't see me ever like this.
I'm quiet in some situations.
Like I am, like I will be quiet in some situations.
Like I'm okay with not having to speak in some situations.
Like I like like just kind of sitting back and like listening and doing that thing.
Kato was on the entire, I mean, he was on.
I'm like, God god damn this guy's stamina
he's fucking relentless he was unbelievable i'd never heard of him before other than the thing
and then meeting him in person boom he's in it now he is super into politics i had oh yeah
i did not know that was the case i followed him on uh on twitter and i was like oh this guy does
the ball he's just i think he's is he like right down the middle or is he lean one side?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Right down the middle.
Yeah, yeah.
Everybody that does politics
always right down the middle.
That's any of the people
that do politics.
That world.
I don't know how he has
that much energy
and he's also in that world
because it feels like,
in my eyes,
you just get attacked all day.
But some people thrive,
I guess.
He was super.
Oh, yeah.
He was fucking going, AJ.
Throwing to the crowd.
He was a fan of yours, AJ.
He was a big fan of yours.
Did you ask him any good questions about the juice?
I will say trials and tribulations did get brought up.
Yeah, yeah.
Trials and tribulations did get brought up, you know,
because there was multiple people who had trials that were sitting in that room.
You know what I mean?
Myself included.
Myself included.
There may have been evidence introduced as well into the conversation.
Yes.
Uh-huh.
Did he have the other glove there?
Well.
Well.
Anyways.
A glass case.
I want to ask you about a couple things going on in the world.
There was no glove there, obviously.
Come on.
But next episode, whenever it comes out, there will be a Kato Kaelin sighting and all the
things.
This is just, how can we get a video together by Tuesday that makes the announcement
and is pretty solid.
Boom, here it is.
But there will be a follow-up episode or three about everything else.
AJ should get in the ice force.
Oh.
Yeah, what are you going to do?
Carson Wentz your way out there, and then you just got to get a good base, right?
And then you start doing that fucking kicks that you know about.
That'll distract them.
And then pow, right in the kisser.
You know what I mean?
On skates, it'd be great.
I better brush up on my skating, though.
Don't you think I need to have a little better base underneath me?
Dude, think about this, though.
Did you see the clip in there?
They tried this one time, and I didn't see it.
I don't think anybody saw it until it was mentioned to me. They were like, hey, we got
this thing going on. I'm like, oh, what
is it? And they sent it to me. So it's literally
just ice.
I feel like it's like blue line to blue line. It feels like
the length of the ice. I might be wrong.
No? I'm not sure the length.
If you saw Goon 2, everyone liked
Goon the Hockey Man. If you saw Goon 2,
a big part of the plot is they do something like
this. They kind of went to the original Ice wars replicated it for the movie really did it in
there yeah so they had doug glatt and ross de moss ray in there doing that but it's gonna be
fucking that has to be like a electrifying oh yeah on ice like that i like that he said you can
if you don't like what one of the judges how he scored the fight you can call him out for your
next fight and i was gonna ask to follow up well, that's going to be everybody that loses.
So are you going to have 100 fights in the next one?
Yeah, you've got to knock him out, right?
So you can win by knockout?
Yeah, I think you can win by knockout, yeah.
So you've just got to win by knockout.
Don't let it go to the judges.
This is the original here.
Oh, this is awesome.
That's what I'm talking about.
Like, it's dark.
How many fights in one night?
So they have eight heavyweights fighting for the king of the rink title,
the crown, happening on May 21st.
I don't know.
You do the fights.
I don't know how many that is.
Do the math.
They don't know who they're fighting until weigh-ins.
So it's just like a random draw.
And they're all over 200 pounds, under 200 pounds.
That's great.
That guy's body hurt the machine gun.
Yeah, Jesus. They're going to had the machine gun. Yeah, Jesus.
They're going to get some 300 pound.
Oh, yeah.
Big bodies.
Oh, yeah.
And he said he's going to have intros for these guys.
They're going to come skating.
WrestleMania-esque.
WrestleMania-esque, yeah.
I mean, that is a good getting that clip.
I think it's going to be awesome.
Is Butterbean around?
We could probably strap some skates on that guy.
I think the skating is a big part of it.bean around? We could probably strap some skates on that guy.
I think the skating is a big part of it because normally the better skaters are the better fighters. But what if we rig the skates for AJ where he rolls out and then they kind of anchor themselves into the ice so they can't go anywhere and he's kind of just like a rock and soffing robot?
You're saying like AJ's on somebody's shoulders who can skate.
Sure.
That works too.
And whoever he's fighting is on somebody else's shoulders.
It's like chicken fight in the pool.
Chicken fight's on ice, so when I fall, it's not that far.
That's actually a pretty good idea.
And instead of the pool, you know, it's actually ice.
Right.
The ice will break the fall.
And you're wearing blades.
So that'll end with CT every fight.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, so maybe we don't do that.
But that's how we could get our friend AJ in who can't skate.
Be perfect.
All right, we'll pitch it.
We'll pitch the idea.
We know who does.
AJ, can you skate?
No.
I'm okay.
Kid's birthday party.
He was absolutely shredding.
Oh, yeah.
He was spraying kids.
Yeah.
I forgot about that.
I forgot all about that.
Sam Roberts is going to join us in like a minute or two.
You're going to get a chance to meet him for the first time ever, AJ, after being a lifelong fan.
This is exciting.
That is exciting.
Does he have a role in WrestleMania?
I believe he's on the kickoff.
I think he hosts the kickoff show for NXT, I believe.
Let's go.
I'm not 100% sure.
NXT runs when?
Like Saturday during the day?
Yes.
Look at you.
On the cock.
Peacock.
Wow.
Look at you. I just know the schedule, man. I see it. They do a good job Yes. Look at you. On the cock. Peacock. Wow. Look at you.
I just know the schedule, man.
I see it.
They do a good job promoting.
They really do.
Friday night, WrestleMania SmackDown followed by the Hall of Fame.
Saturday, NXT in the afternoon.
Then WrestleMania Saturday kickoff show.
WrestleMania Saturday.
Then WrestleMania Sunday.
I don't know if they have a kickoff show.
Probably a kickoff show.
Then WrestleMania Sunday.
And then, ha-pow!
Hell yeah.
Right in the kisser.
You know what I mean, AJ?
Is that what you're going to do to Austin Theory?
I haven't figured it out yet.
Me and my coaches have been going through strategy and game plan.
Expecting.
On how that definitely sounds on.
We're calling him right now.
Update from the back.
We're calling Sam Roberts right now.
Yep.
I'm trying to figure out
what the right strategy is.
You know, because one kick,
it's over.
Yeah.
And I know that.
They know that.
We know that.
So maybe you have to
hack the hack
because I've been
throwing bombs
in the Oculus a lot.
I mean, you're going to want
to punch him in the mouth
at least four or five times.
You can't.
Yeah, have to.
What does Taker want you to do?
Well, I haven't got Taker's opinion yet.
I will talk to him.
I thought he was your coach.
No, no, he is not a part of the coach now.
I will let everybody know who the coaching staff is,
who is potentially an ear for ideas after said match.
Because I don't want anybody to think or get an idea on what my strategy is
going to be because of who I'm talking to.
They might study tape on that guy.
We can rule out Taker.
Taker
unfortunately is not a part of the team.
Not that he wouldn't.
If I didn't awkwardly force
him to.
Imagine if I'm on SmackDown. I tried to ask
Taker for some advice.
He said no.
Taker's the nicest guy of all time, so now I'm going to, like, you know,
Taker's like the nicest guy of all time, allegedly,
to the entire locker room.
Like, the leader, the guy you go to.
But he's going to the Hall of Fame.
Yeah.
It's got going on.
Celebration.
He's going in on Friday.
Joining us now, may be a part of the council.
Oh, wow.
Not 100% sure.
May be a part of the council.
We'll obviously let everybody know if he is or not after WrestleMania Sunday.
Host of the Jim and Sam Show.
Incredible WWE panelist and historian.
One of the best brains I've ever been around.
And he knows absolutely nothing about sports. Ladies and gentlemen, Sam Roberts.
Guys, thanks.
Sam, AJ Hawk is starstruck right now, dude.
This is the first time he's getting to meet you.
Is that true or is that not true?
And did you know he is a massive fan of your show?
Yeah, Sam, I watch your show going back.
Going back in the day.
So then when you took over with Jim, I'm sorry to step it all over you here.
I should have figured this out by now.
Yeah, I've seen all your stuff, man.
It's good to see your face and actually kind of meet you.
It's good to meet you, too.
I'm a fan of yours, except from this show and also from NXT,
because you were on NXT.
So that's where I know you from.
And by the way, you're fantastic on both.
Appreciate that.
Thank you.
Guys, it's not bad, but I feel like it's getting real quick look at his friendship
blossoming right in front of our eyes um sam for people that don't know maybe watching you on
youtube you were once an intern for a massive serious show then you became basic uh co-host
of said show now you're still co-host of said show just did a new deal i believe with serious
xm cashing in and you're uh you're really fucking good at what said show. Just did a new deal, I believe, with SiriusXM cashing in, and you're
really fucking good at what you do. Is that an
accurate depiction of your life's timeline?
Man, I'm trying to find any flaw
in what you just said, and I can't.
It sounds like you read Wikipedia before
I got here. That's perfect. Well, I know you
now, and I got to meet you at those NXT panels,
and you helped me out so much.
So I will ask you this publicly, although
my entire
strategy team
will be kept privately until after the match
because I don't want anybody...
No, what do you think I should be trying to do in there, huh?
Everybody knows the leg's coming, Sam.
Austin knows the leg's coming.
He's 24.
He's insufferable.
He's not dumb.
He's not dumb.
He knows that.
So you think I'm,
right in the kisser early?
Is that what you're thinking, Sam?
What do you think the mindset should be to go in and win this thing?
Look, he's going to be studying tape.
He's going to be there with Mr. McMahon studying tape.
And Mr. McMahon is probably going to give him some tips, okay?
Because I saw Mr. McMahon in there with you, and he was reading you the whole time.
He was thinking about the potential conflict because he loves conflict.
I learned that.
I think your move
is to kick his legs out from under him to start
because he'll go, okay, I watched
him. I watched him on NXT.
He's going to try to kick me in the head.
I'm going to protect the head. You kick him right in the
shin. Break his shin
to start the match
and he will never recover.
Oh, my God.
There's a lot of this after that.
Like Gregor.
Yes.
Then you can go to work on the knee.
Yeah.
Then I do do a little pat-a-la, you know what I mean?
Then I just kind of sit back.
It's a punching bag.
Bottom up.
Bottom up.
You go from the bottom up.
You stop on the toes, kick the shin, take out the knees,
beat up the quads.
This guy.
What?
Hamstrings, too.
Turn them over.
You know what I mean?
Get the hammy in there.
Bruise that thing.
Yeah.
By the time you get to the pecs, you've won this match.
Hell yeah.
Man, that's awesome.
Maybe the abs.
He's got a lot of them.
Yeah, true.
He's got a lot of abs, so maybe about midway up.
Go ahead, AJ.
Sam, what are the odds that Mr. Vince McMahon comes out and maybe, you know, gets a cheap shot on Pat, hits him in the back of the head, tries to instigate a little bit because Pat is kind of messing with his guy?
You know, I was thinking about that a lot.
And here's my theory on that, because at first I noticed the camaraderie going on between Vince McMahon and Pat on the show.
Thank you.
What the fuck happened?
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah.
I was like, maybe Pat is Vince's new guy.
And I was like, how come Vince has never treated me like that?
You know what I mean?
He's like, I'm not going to do that Mark's podcast.
I'll do Pat's podcast.
And I was like, why do you do that?
And then I went, wait a minute.
What does Pat have to offer Vince McMahon?
to offer Vince McMahon.
Pat can act as a catalyst to put Vince McMahon's guy in a high-profile match at WrestleMania.
Pat is a high-profile guy.
Vince McMahon wants to push Austin Theory as the next big superstar.
What better way to make this guy a superstar than to ease Pat into a trust,
only to stab him in the back when it counts the most?
Whoa, Sam.
So, and you think that Vince is even like,
yeah, he's the next guy, but he's going to lose to Pat.
You think that, obviously?
That's what you're thinking Vince is thinking?
Like, this guy maybe needs to be humbled a little bit because he did tell me right he had an ego there for like
six months or whatever and then he didn't so maybe he's doing this to teach austin theory a lesson
like hey listen austin you need to fuck i'm giving you the world right now it started with an egg you
remember this thing started with an egg and now i'm giving you the entire world right now okay
and you're getting a little bit too egotistical, a little bit too much.
What are you doing?
I'm going to humble you, okay?
We got guys just floating around on the commentary table.
That's right.
This is the WWE.
We got people just on the commentary table that can get in a ring and kick your ass.
You think that is what he's thinking in there?
I don't know if you listened to my theory at all.
Like, I don't know if, like, you went into Pat World for a while
and then just waited for your turn to talk.
I think,
yeah.
What I think is going on here is that you are being used.
No,
no,
no.
That's why I just said,
I just gave an alternate.
I just gave a very much an alternative side.
And I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was an alternative Pat world.
No,
I heard what you said.
Yeah.
And it's not right.
It's not right. I didn't feel that. I didn't feel that at all. Did you guys feel world. No, I heard what you said. Yeah. And it's not real. It's not real.
I didn't feel that.
I didn't feel that at all.
Did you guys feel that?
No, absolutely not.
Oh, we haven't felt that.
No.
No, when he came in, he was right here.
Right here.
Don't be so jealous.
Mark.
Look.
His name's Sam.
You call me a historian, right?
It's not an anti-Pat thing.
I love you.
But the fact is that as a historian i know
something about mr mcmahon he's as evil as a human being has ever been i disagree
he's as evil as the day is long and pat he's lured you into a false sense of security
and i do believe that you're gonna find. I don't want to see it.
I want to see you go to WrestleMania, kick a guy's head off,
take a selfie, do the whole thing.
I'm back right here on the Pat McAfee Show with a big trophy that says
WrestleMania King of the World.
Yeah!
Hell yeah!
Woo!
Here we go.
Hey, that's going to happen.
Yeah!
Hey, get ready for that, boys.
This is awesome.
Be prepared for that. Maybe we have another going to happen. Yeah. Hey, get ready for that, boys. This is awesome. Get ready for that.
Maybe we have another green beer egg, or keg in here.
If that's going to happen.
I'd like some, you know, and I need one of those rock cheat meals as well.
Yeah.
French toast stacked up.
I need that sushi, the chocolate chip cookies, the pizza, the flapjack.
I need it all.
That's all I'm going to need.
Let's do that, because did you hear what we're doing?
What?
Oh, my God.
Trophy.
That is amazing.
Oh.
Woo.
No, I'm saying that that's what I would like to see happen.
That's not going to happen.
Oh, God.
Are you for real?
This guy stinks.
You don't know what you're fucking talking about.
Yeah.
Look at you.
What do you know?
You don't know shit, pal.
For shoot, you stink, dude.
Yeah, for shoot.
For shoot.
For shoot.
Dude. First of all, you guys can cr. Yeah, for shoot. For shoot. Dude.
First of all, like, you guys can crotch chop at the Barclays Center all day long.
Yeah, right, we can.
Part of the show.
Part of the show.
This is the future of sports media.
Well, sports entertainment as well, pal.
That's coming into your world, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, all right.
Look, the bicep was impressive.
That was impressive.
I've been dieting.
I've been dieting really well.
But I think, Pat, sometimes you get lost in your own hubris.
And I think that Mr. McMahon sees that as a weakness.
And I believe that this match with Austin Theory is designed to make Austin Theory Mr. McMahon's next big star.
Mr. McMahon likes to make money.
Austin Theory is money for years for Mr. McMahon.
Well, listen, if my hubris was your hubris, I'd probably feel the same exact way.
Because then my hubris would be a fucking negative one.
It would be, oh my one okay it would be oh my
god everything stinks why is this happening okay that's not my hubris your hubris stinks okay my
hubris good time did you hear what we're having we're having french toast pizza chocolate chip
cookies sushi celebrating i think you said a crown at one point i mean do you hear my hubris right
now dude and then listen to your
fucking hubris. You know, I don't need
that hubris, dude.
Do you know what hubris means? No.
Not a clue. I did a context
clue there and I thought I figured it out
and it really said, like, your aura,
your... No. Okay.
Bone in your leg? No. Close.
That's not what that word means.
What about the humerus?
Humerus. No, that's not what that word means. What about the humerus? Humerus.
No, that's not what that word means.
Oh, so what was the word again?
Hubris? Yep.
It's a sense of self-pride or confidence,
I believe. Oh, yeah.
That's a lazy definition if I've ever heard one.
This one was Google, I think,
not the old-fashioned dictionary.
Sorry about it.
But obviously, I hope you're incredibly wrong.
Sorry about all that.
Go ahead, AJ.
Sam, so I don't know if Pat's worried or not, but I think I've heard rumblings.
He's a little worried that maybe Logan Paul, Johnny Knoxville,
maybe some of these guys may overshadow his appearance.
Okay, that.
Bad Bunny, maybe, I don't know.
Okay, that.
Bad Bunny, maybe, I don't know.
No, it's a great question.
Because I watched the Logan Paul training video.
They made a video of Logan Paul getting in the ring,
and he's like, yeah, look at me,
I'm going to jump off the top rope and everything.
Listen, I would love to just destroy Pat McAfee on this one. But the fact is that every time Pat McAfee has stepped up,
he's blown
everyone away.
And here's the thing people need to remember.
Alright, I'm the wrestling guy
here, okay? The Logan
Paul match is a celebrity match.
The Johnny Knoxville match
is a celebrity match.
Pat McAfee versus Austin Theory
is a WrestleMania match. Oh!Afee versus Austin Theory is a WrestleMania match.
Yeah!
Thank you for that, Sam.
That made me feel,
I just got some goosebumps here.
About the same size as that head of yours.
Looks like I got a thousand of your heads
on my arm right now.
Thank you for that, dude.
I mean, it's true.
I saw what you did.
Look, here's what I saw.
I saw you open a can of whoop-ass
on Austin Theory on SmackDown.
What?
I saw you beat him into oblivion.
What?
I saw you make him think twice.
What?
In these boots!
In these boots, Sam!
No grip on the bottom of these things.
You see that?
My God.
Look at that.
You be doing yoga?
Pretty fun.
Wow.
What is this all about?
I think Austin Theory's head print is still in there.
Actually, what you're seeing there is a residue of a mud hole.
What?
That got stomped.
What?
That's what I'm talking about.
Sam, what will you be doing for WrestleMania?
I mean, I think the people that aren't necessarily all in on wrestling,
they let me know that they're not all in on wrestling every time we tweet or post about wrestling
because I am a sports show.
But WrestleMania is such a spectacle every single year.
Like, there's going to be numerous things that crack into the everyday world.
What are you excited for?
What are you looking forward to?
And why should people who maybe aren't into wrestling look forward to WrestleMania weekend?
That's what I love about WrestleMania weekend, especially now that it's two days, Saturday and Sunday.
People are going to be able, if you've ever watched a minute of wrestling, even if you haven't,
you turn on Peacock.
It's streaming on the cock.
You turn on Peacock this weekend, and you're going to see the difference that Vince McMahon himself described on your show.
Sports entertainment versus pro wrestling.
WrestleMania is a spectacle.
It's a show unlike any other.
I've never, never heard from a person who has watched a WrestleMania
and not been like, God damn, was that a fun show.
That's what it's all about.
Putting on a fun show, and by the way,
watching Pat McAfee
kick Austin Theory's head off
before being betrayed by Mr. McMahon.
No.
I don't think so.
He came right here and had a conversation with me.
Good guy.
He shook Boston Congress.
He shook their hand. Vincent, Yeah. He shook their hands.
Shouldn't have.
Vince said,
let's go shake their hands.
Exactly.
And he did.
He said,
I want to shake your hands.
Right here?
Yeah.
Look,
I saw Brock Lesnar on your show.
You guys seem like best friends,
but then I was in Brooklyn on Friday,
and you ran so fast
you fell on your face
because you knew
that if Brock caught you,
he would have ripped
your head off your body. It's just
the name of the game. That chair,
that chair would have came across my
head, I think.
By the way, Brock Lesnar comes on,
great conversation. We have great conversations
all the time, you know?
All the time, great conversation. Every time
we have a conversation, great conversation.
And when I saw him just walking around with that goddamn
chair, and he was heading back towards commentary table table and i potentially knew how much time was left in
the show at that time and i knew something was going to have to happen a lot of things started
adding up for me and i'm like oh oh no this one ain't for me i don't think so i this is a situation
if you watch the film back and we have a foxy has it uh if a bear is ever chasing you what do they
say right you don't have to outrun the bear you just have to outrun whoever's with you right because the bear
will then get said person you watch that back i fucking skip in front of michael cole like he's
to my left obviously and i'm sprinting to the right i jump up over a chair past michael cole
headphones off right into the crowd.
And as I was sprinting out, the wires for the cameras were kind of being moved,
you know, because he was running all over the place.
It tricked me.
I landed right on my, like almost my face in the Barclays Center out of nowhere.
And I may or may not have talked to Cowboy Brock afterwards,
and his only response was, your eyes were so big.
He said, I've never seen your eyes so large.
I guess whenever we made eye contact and he started marching back towards me,
the eyes just went like, oh, no.
And he saw me going, no fucking way is this happening.
And then I got out of there.
Wrestling is so much fun.
I have no
idea how people don't fall in love with it i don't get it honestly and that's the thing too like with
somebody like brock too and i think that people who aren't wrestling fans don't understand that
like it's not just fun in games like if brock lesnar catches you brock lesnar makes his money
convincing people that he can kick the shit out of people.
If you don't run away fast enough, if Brock Lesnar catches you, we're not going to do a wrestling play.
We're not going to pull our punches.
Brock Lesnar's going to kick the shit out of you.
Because he has to.
Because that is who he is.
That is what has to happen.
And that's the difference between, I think, the, you know, the WWE and some other type of shows, you know, that happen live.
It's like, I guess there is like, hey, this is going to happen.
But, like, is it?
I mean, it is.
It's wild out there.
I've enjoyed it so much.
You doing the kickoff shows, was that your first dip into the actual company?
And how long did they
know? Like, oh, we got this guy who does this massive show that AJ Hawk's a fan of, and he's
just a big fan of ours. How did that whole thing start? I'd been, I was on Opie and Anthony first,
and I'd been doing wrestling interviews for a long time whenever I could. And I was kind of
doing my own side shows and everything. And I was moving and I met Michael Cole years ago and he knew that I was a huge fan but also knew that you know I did these interviews
and tried to bring him into the mainstream world that I was a part of uh and then it actually was
the same it was the first year that I started doing Jim and Sam uh I got a phone call and it
was from Michael Cole and he said look dude I've been trying to get people from the outside media world as part of these kickoff shows forever.
And I finally got an approval on it.
You're the first phone call.
Do you want to come to a kickoff show?
I was like, yeah, Michael Cole.
Yeah, I want to come to a kickoff show.
Yeah, that sounds great.
And he goes, okay, we'll bring you in this once.
We'll bring you in for this one show, and then we'll see how it goes.
Hey, if you're the shits, we ain't calling you back.
That was five years ago.
Oh, let's go!
Hey, me.
No big deal.
Yeah, you're like the old vet on those.
Well, when I got there, you were, because you knew so much more than I did.
It was fun working with you, though, man.
I'll never forget.
He had to do my tie because it forced me to wear a tie.
They were early.
I didn't know how to do it, so he tied my tie in there.
It was a good time.
Sam, I was very lucky for you, man.
Go ahead, Ty.
Sam, being as big of a fan of the industry as you are,
and you've had Undertaker and all these guys on your podcast,
do you ever get starstruck when
you're around some of these people who you've been fans of like your entire life yeah i mean
especially like the guys who don't really have a separation from that character like you could
talk to the undertaker a hundred times he's still gonna be the undertaker like when you meet vince
i'm sure you guys know you're not not like, Oh, Mr. McMahon,
the performer, but this is Vince. You're like this, it's one and the same stone coals like that,
you know, it's one in the same. And so, yeah, there is this weird kind of starstruck and
separation that you make when you're like, no, like I'm not sitting on my couch watching this
thing or analyzing this thing or coming up with storytelling
ideas like this is the this is the human being and it's really amazing to get into those guys brains
and where they kind of take their performance and blend in the reality and then when the
performance comes into their reality and vice versa it's it's amazing the attention to detail
i don't think it's talked about a lot like there's so much so many thoughts behind everything why your hair is the way it is
what clothes you're wearing why you walk the way you walk talk the way you talk like there is so
much attention to detail in it i think people that aren't into it have no idea but it is wild go ahead
aj sam is there a chance that we may see uhwayne the Rock Johnson possibly show up to WrestleMania?
I know season two of Young Rock has already started,
and that's obviously gangbusters.
But is he going to find some time, you think, and maybe come out there?
I would love to see it.
If he does, it should be to confront Pat for trying to steal his catchphrase
every other week.
They haven't let me hit it yet.
You know this stuff.
Yeah, they haven't let me hit it yet. know this yeah they haven't let me hit it yeah
that's unbelievable in there um maybe i think it's a matter of time man i think when you look
at at what roman has been doing and the level that he's been doing it on i think there's an
inevitability there and whether it's this year at wrestlemania whether it's next year whether
it's five years from now i mean the rock The Rock keeps himself in fighting shape. That's obvious.
So, you know, I mean, I think it's a matter of time
before Dwayne The Rock, Johnson, and Roman Reigns are face-to-face.
And, yeah, when that happens,
I'm going to look like that meme from South Park
with the guys sitting at the computer.
It's going to be amazing.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Super tight. Yeah, I? Yeah. Super tight.
Yeah, I guess so.
Just babies everywhere.
Sam loves it.
Wow.
Sam loves it.
Hey, okay, here we go.
So that's the biggest match of all time in your eyes, huh?
Right now, Rock versus Roman.
I mean, you know it because you get to see it every week.
But the stuff that Roman is doing right now.
Oh, here we go.
Here we go.
It's not next level wrestling storytelling.
It's next level storytelling.
It's the best thing on TV.
There's nothing better than Roman Reigns
and the Bloodline and We The Ones
and the whole thing.
It's just, it's incredible.
Sam, you watch anything other than wrestling, do you?
I watch a ton of stuff.
Yeah, I watch a lot of TV.
The only thing I don't watch is sports.
I watch a ton of stuff.
I love movies.
I love, yeah, I love shows.
I'm watching that Uber show on Showtime.
Super pumped, yeah.
Yeah, it's great.
All right.
So do you think, like, that's how you get your,
that's probably how he, like, why don't you watch sports, though?
Never was introduced to sports?
Like, was wrestling the only introduction to sports?
Well, my dad would have loved if I was into sports.
Like, my dad's a big baseball fan.
He likes football.
He went to Michigan State, so he watches football and everything.
He was impressed that, like, I was getting to share the stage with you
when we were doing those kickoff shows because, I mean, you're Pat McAfee.
And plus, my uncle grew up in Indianapolis.
So he's like, does Sam know Pat?
And I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
What is he, the guy with the podcast?
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
But you're like so synonymous now with wrestling.
Like your whole, your entire, in my world, I guess.
Now, Jim and Sam are obviously different.
You do a lot of comedy with comedians.
But you're like one of the most synonymous people with wrestling out there almost a voice of wrestling and for wrestling i mean i love it it's
been the thing that i've loved more than anything since anything i can remember like you know when
i'm a little kid i'm dressed up as wrestlers and there's no dip out right like there's no like i'm
a little kid who's super into wrestling and then I dip out and start dating and doing cool things and then get back into wrestling.
Like that middle part never happened.
So it's just all the way through obsessed with wrestling.
Nobody understands it,
but I mean,
it's what,
when wrestling's good,
man,
when professional wrestling,
sports entertainment,
when it's good,
there's nothing better on the planet i agree by the way i'm a
big fan i'm a very sam but i got a quick question sam you ever think about packing maybe 30 40 pounds
of muscle on and getting inside that ring i mean look i don't want to say anything i have uh
filled out a little bit in the last couple years. Have you?
A little bit, you know.
Yeah, sure.
I'm in there.
Look, there's another thing that I've faced from the time I was a very young man.
Number one, I love wrestling.
Number two, there's an element of genetics
that goes into being an athlete.
There are a lot of people who, no matter how bad they want it,
there's an element, there's hard work and practice
and a brain that works on the field and all this stuff,
but also an element of genetics is the first step.
And that was a hurdle to get past.
You know, yeah,
you know,
when I'm seven or eight years old,
yeah,
I'm going to be a wrestler
when I grow up.
And my parents are like,
well,
yeah,
great.
Yeah.
I mean,
yeah,
good for you then.
So,
yeah,
you know,
I mean,
of course I would love to,
but at the same time,
you know,
my coordination
and athletic ability
might prohibit that
we tried to call you yesterday
so AJ could say hello
that's why we had today
and he said he was in the gym
are you lifting? running?
what are you trying to do? live longer or get buff?
no, no cardio
lift, lift, lift, lift
you know who helped
help me with my deadlift?
Who?
World's strongest man, Mark Henry.
That guy can deadlift a lot of things.
Yeah.
It's his idea of
I think he thought we were in the middle
when we maxed out.
He was still in this space and telling me
to put 30 more pounds on.
No, no. That's it for today.
Thanks.
Thanks, Mark.
He's a great dude.
Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, Sam, we're talking about Vince McMahon possibly stabbing Pat in the back,
and we all know that's not going to happen.
But what about the wise man with the tribal chief?
Because it seems like he might flip-flop with Brock Lesnar if things go wrong for Roman.
Man, here's the thing about the wise man, is that
even if he wanted to flip
flop, I don't even think Brock
would take him back at this point.
Brock's this type
of guy. Fool me once,
shame on me. Fool me twice,
can't fool me again.
And that's Brock
Lesnar.
I don't know if that's true.
You said that, not me.
Just want to let everybody know.
I saw him in a chair.
Yeah, you might have to learn how to run.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, maybe a little car, yeah.
I think Paul Heyman sees who and what Roman is right now.
I don't think Paul Heyman is flip-flopping.
I don't think.
Even when he was back with Brock for a hot minute there, I don't think Paul Heyman is flip-flopping. I don't think, even when he was back with Brock for a hot minute there,
I don't think it was a serious thing.
I think that his heart was with Roman Reigns from the beginning.
I think his heart remains with Roman Reigns.
And honestly, if you're looking at the landscape,
God bless Brock Lesnar,
but if you can attach yourself to any superstar in the world of sports
entertainment right now.
Roman Reigns is that guy.
AJ, how about your thoughts?
Yeah, I love Roman.
What do you mean with his football background?
He came on the show.
He was awesome.
But I will add one more quick one for Sam. No thoughts?
What?
What about the wise man, AJ?
A big reason I'm a fan of this guy is because he came on your show, Sam,
and was a great character. Fandango, back in the day, what the hell happened, and why is this guy is because he came on your show, Sam, and was a great character.
Fandango, back in the day, what the hell happened,
and why is this guy not in the WWE?
Man, I love Fandango.
He came on.
It was WrestleMania 29 to promote himself.
He had Jim Norton lotion up his body for him.
He had the sequins on and everything in that radio studio.
He is an incredible entertainer.
I love that guy.
And he was around for a while.
I think the thing with Fandango,
this is the thing that people run into,
is that there's a short shelf life on things.
And it's like, okay, we've established that he's a ballroom dancer.
Okay, we've established that he's a ballroom dancer. Okay, we've established that he's a good wrestler.
Like, where do we go from here?
And you kind of pin yourself into this corner,
because it's not like he can say,
well, I'm not a ballroom dancer anymore.
Because then you go,
well, then why the hell is your name Fandango?
Right?
And so it gets a little,
it gets a little long.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. It's a little long.
Hey, I was potentially a part of his last seg on WWE television.
Really?
I think so, yeah.
We got to meet him, as did AJ. And AJ said these exact same things to him in person as he just asked you.
And, yeah, I think it was his last sec.
It was, I think.
Yeah, I kicked Tyler Breeze, I believe.
Yes.
Fandango left after that.
He commented on one of my Instagrams.
He said, you retired me, kid.
He is hilarious.
That dude, hilarious human being.
Here's the best part about Fandango.
Last year at NXT Stand and Deliver,
he was on the pre-show in a tag match with Tyler Breeze.
And he said that they called him either day of or the night before,
saying, hey, can you come to Orlando and be a part of this pre-show?
And he said, can I dress like a pirate and they said uh yeah i guess
though he goes all right then i'll do it he would only come if he could do the match dressed as a
pirate hilarious you bet about a dollar he was dressed as a pirate that his commitment to that
dango character was unbelievable now he's wrestling i think in underwear like actually
i saw him post something he is fantastic i believe he's contractor, I think, in underwear. Like, actually, I saw him post something.
He is fantastic.
I believe he's a contractor as well, builds homes.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, like Bill D.
Like a guy you would like to meet for sure.
Go ahead, Tone.
Sam, what do you think is going to happen to that imitative,
unoriginal, uninventive, cliched, predictable clown, Kevin Owens. Yes.
It would be stupendous if the Texas Rattlesnake killed him.
Hell yeah.
Jesus.
Hell yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
I mean, I don't know that I could advocate for the straight-up murder of the WWE superstar.
I don't know that I want to see Kevin Owens dead. Kevin Owens
did not deserve that. Yeah, he did.
God damn it. Look, I'll tell you
this. Kevin Owens was very abusive
to the audience on Raw a couple of weeks
ago, playing that Stone Cold song,
letting the glass shatter twice
in one segment
and roping these people along.
Look, man, I
can't
imagine anything that would
satisfy a stadium
full of people in Dallas
more than hearing that
glass shatter and
watching Stone Cold Steve Austin
trudge to the ring. I'm gonna go
shorts, no
shirt, vest,
and just start dropping stunners
on everybody. But
here's where I'm excited. Okay?
With Eugene.
Because this
ain't Steve Austin.
This isn't just like
a little appearance from an ex-WWE
guy. Stone Cold is back.
I heard it in the promo. I heard it
with what Kevin Owens was saying. For the
first time since 19,
Stone Cold is back.
Yeah! That's right.
That's what we're looking forward to. God damn right.
Thank you so much, Sam, for your time today.
Thank you. Honestly,
you are such
a nice...
AJ is the worst.
What? He's going through the Rolodex in my head. a nice... AJ is the worst.
He's going through the Rolodex in my head.
I mean, look.
It took him two months.
Two months.
Eugene versus Gilbert.
See you there.
I appreciate you, Sam.
You're the man.
I think a lot of people just got a chance to witness somebody who has an incredible passion for sports entertainment,
and there's arenas sold out every single week, two times a week.
It is crazy to feel the WWE universe out there every single week.
It's awesome.
It's really my only time out of either this office or my house
is when I'm in these arenas. And it is.
And if we come to a town near you,
it is worth it.
The live shows are,
you can literally yell,
kill him!
Yeah.
To somebody.
It is.
It's awesome.
As are you, ladies and gentlemen,
Sam Roberts.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Travis Pastrana.
I saw him swim with a python.
What?
Yeah, I'm hearing it.
He needs a...
I thought he just...
He's back already?
Yeah, that was my big surprise.
And he's caught up too, by the way.
So I don't know if this was before the...
Swim with what?
Pythons.
And then Tony Hawk was at the goddamn Oscars
with a fucking cane
because he just broke his shit.
Those...
Him and Wes did the meme.
What's that?
So there was like...
Yeah.
There was a meme of Wesley Snipes with,
uh,
crying with a gun and said,
and the meme was,
if there's ever a race war,
me to Tony Hawk.
And then Tony Hawk replied underneath at the Oscars.
Tony Hawk showed him it and like made him aware of it.
And then they took the picture together.
Oh,
that's awesome.
Yeah.
It's a good story.
Tony said,
Tony said,
appreciate the hesitation though. Yeah. That was his, hey tony hawk super cool dude i feel like
yeah super cool dude still skating by the way getting hurt out there i mean travis pastrana
is basically not even human anymore with how many surgeries and plates and rods and stuff he has in
his body so johnny knoxville is our era's daredevil right but like pastrana is our what
evil evil but isn't that what a daredevil yeah but knoxville is not jumping buses and shit like that
i feel like you know i mean he he does like stunts and stuff like that but anytime you introduce like
you know he's base jump like knoxville is not base jumping yeah so i guess they do the similar
things as evil kenevil does but he does it at a much higher level.
So what is Knoxville, then?
Knoxville is just our—
Mad Mike?
He's a prankster.
He's a classic prankster.
Yeah, right, but he puts his—he does.
Yeah.
He does some serious shit.
He's like a stuntman, almost.
Yeah.
So he's like our generation.
So that's—Travis Pastrana is our daredevil.
Johnny Knoxville is our generation's stuntman.
He has a WrestleMania match I'm calling.
Yeah.
Can't wait for that.
I got to figure out how to describe him properly.
I'm happy we're doing some research here.
Who's he fighting?
Sami Zayn.
Oh, it's going to be in Zayn, dude.
No rules.
Anything goes.
He put his number out there, right?
Yeah, on a plane.
It was good.
It got thousands and thousands of calls and texts.
You think he told this guy that he was putting his number out?
Well, he did after he did it, yeah.
What do you mean, this guy?
I mean before.
Sammy.
You think he told Sammy?
No, that's the thing.
You don't tell the person.
Got him.
Classic prankster.
It's like whenever Tom Green did it to Glenn Hum humplick yep tom green's still doing it he's out in a van vlogging i see his stuff he's a unique character tom green pioneer in almost every single like i think internet shows i think he was
like the first one what is uh goopy what do the canadians think of him love tom green okay good
legend what about glenn humplett don't know
who that is justin trudeau all right let's go to the first no comment oh yeah oh speaking of
canada i think fandles come to canada that's right holy shit
yeah yeah yeah of course. Dump that. Foxy Dump.
The Vandals come to Canada, though, I think next week.
All of Canada?
No, Ontario.
How's that work?
I assume they're going to have to do the same thing they do in all the states.
There's going to have to be some sort of lobbying and blah, blah, blah that has to happen.
But we're getting into Ontario.
I'm excited about that.
That's a big deal.
Good luck getting into British Columbia, my friend.
What's that all about?
What happened there? That's where I'm from. Tough
crowd.
If we get into
Newfoundland...
I think it'll go east coast to west coast.
What about Nunavut? That's east coast.
When's Saskatoon getting in? Seriously.
Nunavut's east coast. I think Sask's Saskatoon getting there? Seriously. Nunavut's East Coast.
I think Saskatoon's up over there near Dakotas.
Awesome.
There'll be a couple months now.
I hope.
I hope a couple months, yeah.
Is Saskatoon in Saskatchewan?
That's the one.
Is that the capital of Saskatchewan?
Regina?
Of course.
But I thought they changed it to Saskatoon.
Because Regina, yeah, it's nice.
But Saskatoon?
Saskatoon. You can't change But Saskatoon. What about Quebec?
Did you imagine having a Splatoon in a Saskatoon?
I don't think Fandu wants to get into Saskatoon.
A Splatoon?
A Splatoon, yeah.
I think Gumpy just says anything that's not British Columbia is the East Coast.
So anything right of you.
And you live on the coast, right? I was on the left coast. So anything right of you. And you live on the coast, right?
I was on the left coast, yeah.
So anything right of you.
I've referred to Indianapolis as East Coast
a few times when I first moved here, too.
I'm on the East Coast.
Because I guess you are, technically.
Changes time zones, right?
That's how I thought of it.
Shot's Canada, though.
Yeah, shot.
I was going to say Canada.
Hey, they are good gamblers.
They are good gamblers.
They're good gamblers up there. Hold on, Goopy, I got
more questions real quick. Goopy, so
how do your friends from Canada
or maybe some of your relatives
or people that want to come here to America, how do they
feel? Are they jealous? Are they mad that you're here?
No, everyone's happy for me. AJ, why would
they be mad or jealous? I mean, I guess
jealous because they want to come here. America's sick.
Most people like it back home.
Yeah, dude, it's a great place. It's sick. Most people like it back home. Yeah, dude.
It's a great place.
It's beautiful.
Who lines your beard up, by the way?
Depends on the week.
Yeah.
God.
Pretty serious up there.
I mean, I like it.
He's got one tomorrow coming.
I think a lineup coming tomorrow.
Wait till you see that thing tomorrow.
Hell yeah.
No, everyone.
I mean, everyone likes Canada.
It was just, I was there my whole life.
It's time for a change.
Change is good.
Enough is enough.
And it's time for a change.
Hell yeah.
Any other Canadian questions?
I'll let you know if one pops up.
The World Cup draw is Friday, if you want to know, AJ.
Hey, congrats, Canada.
Yeah, good job, Canada.
That was a big deal.
I saw Ariel Helwani talking about it.
36 years, my friend.
Only the second time we've ever made it.
Hey, congrats.
So you're getting blasted in the first round is what you're saying?
Yeah.
No, no, no. We'll see how the draw goes. Wait, congrats. So you're getting blasted in the first round is what you're saying? Yeah. No, no, no.
We'll see how the draw
goes.
Wait, why aren't they
good at soccer?
Because they get, what,
one month of sun?
Yeah, it's cold.
Play hockey.
Hockey, lacrosse,
scrimming.
Yeah.
It's a cold, cold sport,
I think, right?
That's a cold sport
world.
We should be better
though.
Soccer is huge.
So should America,
by the way.
Soccer is huge in
Canada.
It's not like it is
very big. We should be a lot better, but we are good now. Here you way. Soccer is huge in Canada. It's not like it is very big.
We should be a lot better, but we are good now.
Here you are.
Yeah, you're in the goddamn World Cup.
You qualified before us.
Now, we can forfeit our next game, lose 3-0 in the forfeit,
and still make it in the World Cup.
So we're in a soccer Lombardi as well.
Here we go.
Trish and Pulisic had a hat trick the other day.
The GOAT has returned.
Two penalty kicks and obviously a sick, sick slice, dice, meg goal inside the box.
What an absolute stud this guy is.
We're going in to win the soccer Lombardi.
And for the draw, Jens better hope you're not in the group of death.
And let me tell you which group is the group of death.
Whichever fucking group we're in.
Okay?
We're not in your guys' group.
Jens, we're in the fucking United States'
group. Bingo.
Especially with the way this team's playing right now.
They got a little edge to them right now.
What about the girls' World Cup team?
We win. Always.
Does it happen at the same time?
Two years.
Yes, you're right.
Because it's every four years, so they
alternate. When's the last time
the U.S. men's team won the World Cup?
Well, that's the thing about the soccer Lombardi.
It's never come home before.
Let's just hope England and Canada aren't in the same group
or I could be in a bad spot.
Oh, you'll be torn?
Yeah, don't worry about it because if the United States are in it,
you're all fucking out.
So don't even worry about it, pal.
We'll take care of that.
One clean sweep, and it'll be Christian Pulisic's right foot.
That'd be the Queens group.
15 goals.
Yeah, and then we would do what we did.
Exactly.
Won't they have to face Ronaldo?
Won't have to face Italy.
We know that.
Portugal plays today.
I was going to say.
The thing about Italy is Italy didn't even make the goddamn World Cup.
Oh, no.
I'm a little bit upset because I am.
Yeah, why are you laughing? Well, they're already out, though. I'm a little bit upset because I am. Yeah, why are you laughing?
Well, just –
Wait, they're already out, though?
You should be proud.
They forfeited their game because of the poor work conditions
for the workers who were building the stadiums.
So they decided to forfeit this World Cup.
No.
Thank you for your service, Italy.
No misinformation on this program.
We can't have that.
That's not what happened?
Nah.
What happened?
They lost to North Macedonia.
What happened to you?
Macedonia?
Macedonia.
That league's
beautiful.
It's the North Macedonia.
That league's bullshit though
because if you lose one game
you're not in.
I mean,
what are we doing here?
Yeah,
well the CONCACAF
handles business
and the refs are a little bit crooked
I guess
and they say that
in every single sport
about everything
but Italy not being in
is a big deal
because we didn't make the last one
and everybody buried us.
And now one of the power six
conglomerates of soccer.
If you win the Euros, you should be in.
That's two World Cups in a row
they've missed.
Oh my god.
Canada's made more World Cups
in the last eight years.
Automatic bid, you should be in.
They're just a filler. When you win the Euros?
I agree. That means we would be in. They're just a filler. When you win the Euros? Yeah. I agree.
That means we would be in too.
Where is it being played again?
Qatar.
Qatar.
What is it called?
Qatar.
Is that how you normally pronounce it?
Well, I don't know if it's Qatar or Qatar, so I just put them together.
Qatar.
Qatar.
I like that.
Where is the next World Cup after that one?
United States of America.
How you doing, Keith?
Hell yeah.
So where will we play? Is it all over?
So far, dude. It's here in Mexico
and Canada. North America. Still in Mexico?
We're going to Mexico?
I hope not. Zito just had quite a groan
in my right ear there. Majority of the game.
Not in Mexico. Not in Mexico.
No, it is. Yeah, that was Mexico, Canada
and... Yeah, it's a joint. Zito's doing research
back there. He says after the whole
That's probably why I said that not many people died Canada and... Yeah, it's a joint. I was doing some research back there. He says after the whole...
That's probably why he said that
not many people died,
to be honest with you.
To save the World Cup bid.
Probably.
Yes.
Whatever.
It's going to be down here
Lucas Oil, though.
Yeah.
We're going to see United States
play against Portugal right here.
Yep.
And Lucas Oil, probably,
if I had to guess.
Ronaldo's coming.
Cristiano Ronaldo's coming.
Did I hear that Bartholona is interested in Cristiano Ronaldo?
What?
Who's interested in somebody?
Mbappe.
Bartholona's in on Mbappe?
Yeah, Bartholona said, hey, listen, we lost out on Messi because we couldn't afford him and we're moving forward.
But we need to get back into the superstar game.
Give me Mbappe on the Francais.
It's PSG.
That's what they said at Barthelona.
Yeah, and after this World Cup, you know who Barthelona is going to want.
Who's that?
Pulisic.
Don't you have to be born there to play in the World Cup on that squad?
Yeah.
Well, yeah, he's playing here.
That's club, dude.
That's club, though.
That's like he plays currently for Chelsea, and they bench him and put him on,
and they bench him, and they put him on, and they play the games.
But if Bartholone gets Mbappe and Pulisic, game, set, match.
Rumors are Pulisic might be going to Italia.
Really?
Does this guy know that Bartholone is a city, not a country?
Yeah, AJ.
Yeah, if you had to guess, Bartholone, city or country?
City.
Nailed it.
Good job, AJ.
Yep.
Anyways, Bartholone is not in the World Cup.
Who pronounces it like that?
Bartholone.
Bartholone.
Does Taylor Twelverman say it like that?
Taylor Twelverman?
He should.
Because I trust him in all things soccer.
That's your soccer guru?
That dude dresses nice.
He's a lot of energy.
I enjoy him on TV.
Yeah, but what about Tommy Miolla? Tony Miolla is great, too. He's a lot of energy. I enjoy him on TV. Yeah, but what about Tony Miola?
Tony Miola is great, too.
He was a great player.
Jeez.
His name's Tony Miola.
It's Mioli.
No.
No.
Jesus.
Kicked off with the Jets.
I remember that.
How about Alexi Lawless, dude?
Guy's been on TV every...
Great on TV, too.
He's been on TV every single day that soccer's been around in America.
Yeah.
He has bounced from program to program.
He is the authority on soccer, Alexi Lawless.
He was a badass on the field.
He used to really throw his body
around to people. What about Lexi Kaufman?
She is soccer.
She is soccer?
I don't think Alexa Bliss.
I just wanted to hear him say it.
What do we do with the Fandle Sportsbook thing?
They explicitly said hey She can't be called Alexa Bliss
Because this is not a WWE event
And all you did the entire time
My god that's Alexa Bliss
That's Alexa Bliss
We did it about a hundred times
We really turned that thing wide open there for a couple different times.
What a show.
What a show.
Good for Lexi Kaufman, though.
Yeah, she won.
Beat Emmitt Smith.
And what if she got into soccer?
Is she in WrestleMania?
Big fan of the Columbus crew, she is.
Really?
She's from Columbus.
Columbus has that new stadium.
What do you call it?
Lower.com Stadium. Let's go. You ever get
to a game? Take the kids? Take Axel?
I have not had the
opportunity yet. What? We will.
So you hate your kids?
Jeez.
My kids would have to say, Dad, we
would love to go to a soccer game. Oh, they didn't know it was
an option. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Actually, my daughter has been to a game. Oh, you said go with somebody else. You want to go to a soccer game. Oh, they didn't know it was an option. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Actually, my daughter has been to a game.
Oh, you said go with
somebody else you want to go down there?
No, we were at like a basketball tournament with our
sons and one of her friends had tickets.
Boom, she got to go.
Hey, Columbus crew put on quite a show.
That's a hell of a program.
It's a big deal down here. Yeah, you need to get to it.
I know I will. Alright, we're
getting out of here. 3.30, hammer down.
YouTube.com forward slash hammer down.
The boys are looking to bounce back, AJ.
They had a rough night last night.
Oh, they'll bounce back.
I mean, their rough night is a great night for anybody else, I would imagine.
Oh, down years for me are career years for other people.
Bingo.
Yeah, I trust them.
I agree.
What are we betting on tonight?
Big NBA slate.
Huge NHL slate.
The NIT semifinals are tonight.
Let's go.
Wow, who's in that?
Texas A&M versus...
Don't worry about it.
Santa Clara?
No.
Coastal?
I know the Bonneys.
Texas A&M versus Washington State.
And the Bonneys got Xavier.
Oh!
Rhyme time NIT matchups here.
I can't wait to see
who you guys pick,
who you guys bet on,
who you guys bounce back with.
Because that's who
you're picking tonight.
Exactly.
Remember, you're picking
that horse named Victory
out of the barn tonight.
You're saddling that thing up
and you guys are riding again.
Putting up shots.
The Hammer Don boys
ride that horse named Victory
for a long time.
They're pretty good gamblers.
They are.
The Hammer Don boys
are pretty good gamblers. Yeah. Don boys are pretty good gamblers.
Yeah.
They all love the
Bengals.
That is taking over
the office, AJ.
You know that.
Listen, you heard
Mitt in the back.
So just a throwaway
comment from Gabe
Morenci, Super Bowl
week, asking Sean
Payton's daughter,
who she likes in the
game.
You know, the Hammer
Don boys, they all got the bangles,
and they're good gamblers.
Now, everybody, no matter what they're doing,
is either a good gambler or a bad gambler.
Like, whoever was shaving their pubes in that bathroom,
bad gambler, bad gambler, bad gambler.
These guys, a couple good gamblers over here.
Talk to Sean Payton's daughter?
Yes.
She's part of them.
Dude, this is one of those things
that just starts cooking in this office and then it just
kind of takes everything over and then
it's like I cannot... Gabe Morenci had no
idea when he said that. No clue.
That it was... We can talk about his jacket.
His jacket, as he said multiple times,
yeah, it's like Evo Knievel, eh? I told him
that many times.
Go ahead. The Hammer Dog
guys, they were all on the Bengals,
and they're good gamblers, those guys.
Greatest compliment of all time.
Greatest compliment of all time.
The Hammer Dong guys, they were all on the Bengals,
and they're good gamblers, those guys.
Could have been said a thousand times on Friday night.
What was her response?
I don't think she answered.
She did not.
She actually went to.
I don't think he gave her much of an opportunity.
She went to respond, and then the Raging Redhead cut her off,
and then Morenci cut the Raging Redhead off.
I'm not sure she 100% knows who the Hammered Don was.
How about the way he said it versus the way the Raging Redhead said it?
Just two.
Hammered Don.
Hammered Don.
Hammered Don, boys.
Run that one more time.
Run that one more time for Gabe Marinci.
The Hammer Don guys, they were all on the Bengals,
and they're good gamblers, those guys.
It was said.
Dick said it a hundred times.
That might have been said a thousand times on Friday night
when we were out in Brooklyn.
Yeah.
A good pool shot would go in.
Oh, good gamblers.
Good gamblers.
Some random person that's at the bar has a look.
There's a pretty good gambler here.
Just everything.
And then miss.
Oh, bad gambler.
Bad gambler.
Bad gambler.
Oh, man.
Hey, fans, let's come to Canada.
Here we go.
Good gamblers.
Good gamblers.
Hey, Canada, good gamblers.
We're out of here.
We're back tomorrow.
Thank you to Darius Butler. Thank you to Sam Roberts. Thank you so much, AJ. You're a Good gamblers. Hey, Canada, good gamblers. Good gamblers. All right, we're out of here. We're back tomorrow. Thank you to Darius Butler.
Thank you to Sam Roberts.
Thank you so much, AJ.
You're a good gambler.
I don't think I am.
I think you are.
You are.
We need a fan do in Ohio.
Then I'll see if I'm a good gambler.
Maybe.
You are a good gambler.
You're done.
Diggs is as well.
You guys will bounce back.
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I do not believe the Kato Kaelin edition of that's Hockey Talk has come just yet
or tonight, or I don't know if that's been booked at all.
Maybe Nick.
Nick and Kato did have a lot of conversation.
He loves Zito.
Kato loves Zito.
Oh, another guy that ends in an O in their name. We're buddies.
Yeah, we're good gabbers.
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