The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 629 - LIVE From Jerry World, Bruce Arians Announces His Retirement, Randy Orton IN STUDIO, Chuck Pagano, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 31, 2022

On today's show, Pat and the boys are live from Jerry World in preparation for WrestleMania 38 as they react to the big news of the day including Bruce Arians officially stepping down as Head Coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and moving to a front office job while Todd Bowles will become the new Head Coach for the Bucs and all the rumors swirling around the internet that Tom Brady had a hand in Bruce stepping down, and everything else going on around the NFL. Joining the show in studio, is the youngest champion in WWE history, current RAW Tag-Team Champion, one of the greatest superstars in the history of WWE, a man preparing for his 18th Wrestlemania, The Legend Killer, Randy Orton for an absolutely incredible conversation (26:15-59:33). Later, joining Pat and AJ Hawk for another Coach Us Up segment, is a man who has been coaching his entire life, former Head Coach of the Indianapolis Colts, friend of the progrum, Chuck Pagano. Pat, Chuck, and AJ chat about the Bruce Arians situation and if anyone could've seen this coming, if he thinks Tom Brady had anything to do with the decision, and his overall thoughts on the craziness of the offseason thus far (59:35-1:12:59). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is Wrestlemania Thursday, March 31st, 2022. This show begins right now. Can't thank you enough for joining us. We were supposed to be live in a yuppie Airbnb around Dallas. That internet wasn't worth a single fuck. So now it is even better even grander even more of the respect that wrestlemania deserves we are live in jerry fucking world we are in a club section here at at&t stadium now obviously we do not have a shot of the stadium because the set is being built for wrestlemania there's a lot of work going on but But I will say this. This part of Jerry World that we are in, that they made work within 12 hours. Shout out to Seat Geek for the connection.

Shout out to AT&T Stadium for making this happen. Shout out to the Jerry Jones family for saying, let them fucking boys do the show. I will say the Cincinnati Bengals are building an indoor practice facility. Executive Vice President Katie Blackburn, daughter of the Brown family, going to be the next owner, announced that at the league meetings. That is awesome for Cincinnati. Yeah, there you go, Cincinnati. With that being said, we are in a place here in Dallas.

They have a star on every single paper towel and napkin and every shitter in this goddamn building. This place is top of the line. This place is glorious. This place is the home to WrestleMania this weekend. And for the next two days, myself, at Boston Connor, at Frankie Moralda will be here. We have live in-person guests. That's why you see that microphone there.

Today, Randy Orton will be joining us in about 15, 20 minutes. And then later, Robbie Gold will join us via Zoom or FaceTime. The boys are sounding and looking fantastic back in Indianapolis, Indiana. I wish you were here, Ty. I wish you were here, Tone. But this is absolutely beautiful. Too nice for us, boys. Too nice for us. Yeah, we wish we were there as well, Pat. I mean, that is unbelievable. It looks like you're on a goddamn spaceship. But I'm glad everything worked out.

That place looks incredible. Yeah, well, thank you, Ty. And I would like to let everybody know, we were lied to. We were bamboozled. We were catfished by the Airbnb, which happens on a regular basis as we're getting into this. And Airbnb needs to figure that out with that being said the house we're staying in got marble imported from Italy huh right that ain't cracking hey the two front doors from France imported French glass doors if you watch me on get up this morning there's a goddamn night there there's a baby piano. There's an entire wine cellar. But with that being

said, the only thing that wasn't focused on was the internet. Internet's worth zero. It is shitty. And we were told that it was going to be good. And whenever we had to make an audible, we came here to AT&T Stadium. This is beautiful. We got some succulents on the fucking tables here. We got some greenery in the back. This is going to be glorious, so we can't thank you enough for joining us here at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee Show. Obviously, the boys back in Indianapolis will be a part of the conversation the entire time. AJ Hawk will be joining us in the next hour. We are having an absolute blast.

I'm very excited for this weekend. As everybody knows, my WrestleMania debut comes on Sunday. I got a chance to be on Get Up this morning, bright and early here Central Time. And I want to let everybody know, did I remember that I was going on Get Up? Well, last night when I set my alarm. No, no, no. No, I did not because this is a Zito production. What the boys were able to do last night in setting this entire thing up

was nothing short of miraculous. It was a two-and-a-half, three-hour haul, no joke at all. Setting up all the cameras, all the wires, all the tripods, all the lights, all the tables, all the chairs. This entire thing got flipped into a set so quickly. So I would like to give a big thank you to Zito and all the boys for their incredible hard work. Hey, baby Z.

Shout out, Z. We got back to that yuppies house with no internet late. We had a couple wings, maybe ate some edibles, and then fell asleep. And I completely forgot about my get-up appearance. So I was supposed to be on, I guess, 8-19. They were going to do a test call central time. I

set that alarm for 8 a.m. I woke up 14 to 15 text messages from people from WWE that set up the get-up pit, and people from get-up saying, Pat, can't wait to chat with you. We're going to give you a test call at 8-19. Guy named Pete over there, there zach over there sending me texts hey pat are you awake right now you have not responded because normally i'll give a thumbs up or whatever so i had 19 minutes to basically wake up hop in the shower get dressed get set figure out what

room we're going to do it in and figure out how the internet wasn't going to drop out in the middle of it i figured i'd do it in front of a baby grand piano with a knight in the back. The camera, six seconds before going live, fell off the Pabst blue ribbon 12-er that it was sitting on top of that we're arresting it. It was magical. Big thanks to the people at Get Up for having me on. And also, I mean, there was a lot of shots thrown at a lot of different things. Yeah. So let's just dive right into it first of all i am ready for something hell yeah goddamn right diana russini i know she goes walking around the jersey shore and there's all these pies on eating tremolone sandwiches done okay i'm getting tested in this entire thing so i cannot just take the uh you know the sonic the hedgehog speed burst get there. I feel better than I've ever felt.

I'm in better shape than I've ever been in. Should have been doing this when I was in the NFL, probably, but hindsight's 50-50. Cam Newton said that. There's nothing we can do about it now. I feel damn good, and I'm excited and thankful to be here with all of you. Now, let's talk about the NFL news of the night, the thing that sent the internet into conspiracy fodder immediately upon its announcement. Although Tom Brady retired and then came back, Bruce Arians came back and now he has retired. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are in the middle of a wild shift of power. Todd Bowles, former head coach in multiple places, defensive coordinator of the Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers, just had his contract restructured to be the assistant head coach.

Almost a head coach in waiting a couple years ago. Now they rip that up, give him a new five-year deal, and Bruce Arians is now a senior assistant for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Rick Stratt, he's reporting in the Tampa Bay Times that Tom Brady knew the day he decided to come back or the day after he decided to come back or the day after he decided to come back that Bruce Arians was going to step away and Todd Bowles was going to become the head coach Bruce Arians was at the combine talking a lot of shit Bruce Arians was trying

to rebuild that entire team actually said that his favorite part of all this is building a team back up because we asked him like hey PA you've been there done that with everything you've been around the NFL a long time the first time you wanted to retire from the Arizona Cardinals, you actually said in your retirement press conference, my wife told me, her son Jake turned 40. And I said, 40? Where have the years gone? So now he might have turned 43, Connor immediately pointed out,

and he realized, oh, no, I'm missing more of these days, more of these years. Or maybe he just didn't want to dive back into everything that this offseason is going to hold. With that being said, the internet had a lot of different theories, so let's dive right to Boston Conner's thoughts. Everybody on earth is saying that Tom Brady said, get Bruce Arians the fuck out of here. Conner, your thoughts on this whole thing.

You're goddamn right. That's what Tom Brady said. I mean, there was a long post he did on Instagram for BA, and everyone's like, oh, look at what Tom did for Bruce. He didn't do this for Bill. Why is he probably hates Bill even more than he hates BA? Because he does hate BA, but also, hey, sorry, Bill's not on Instagram, pal. Sorry he's not going to see anything you put on IG.

And, you know, many times Tom's seen your- Yeah, but to be clear, when somebody dies, a lot of people put posts on social media and they're not going to see it unless once again a conversation yesterday maybe they have IG in the after. I don't want to get back into that because we went into that pretty thoroughly yesterday

and that's like once a month maybe once every couple months or quarterly yearly conversation but anything you post somebody's going to find. You know like if you would have posted about Bill Belichick on Instagram people would have found it i don't know i mean bill look bill is hanging out with maddie patricia he's going to alabama pro days he's going to you know alabama east bumfuck state university with what you're talking about right it has nothing to do with excuse me i'm sorry i'm getting sidetracked talking about belichick you know the brain starts rolling

but yeah tom hates ba i mean there is no doubt in my mind that the reason Tom is back is probably because Todd Bowles is the head coach. I mean, B.A., what, three weeks ago, like you said, was building a new team. He's reloading. All the coaches hate the combine. He was at the combine. At the combine. Whenever you think about players, whenever they decide to retire out of nowhere, it's normally like the day before training camp because that's whenever they have to put all their shit into the bag.

That's whenever they have to look at their family, look at their friends, all the fun they had been having. They're like, all right, for the next three weeks, I'm going to go live in some shitty fucking dorm. I'm going to have to pee in public bathrooms. I'm going to have to go run my head into somebody two times a day. I'm going to lack sleep. I'm getting back in.

And you see a lot of vets kind of do like snap retirements almost right before training camp. This timing is very, very interesting. And if Tom knew whenever he came back, that means what? They were just waiting for this day to figure out the announcement? Or were they trying to figure out Todd Bowles' deal? Now, Ian Rappaport has come out with his theory on what happened. And Bruce Arians also was quoted as saying that he's always viewed secession in the world as a very important part of this entire thing.

So as opposed to giving Todd Bowles a team that's, you know, maybe in a full rebuild and transition and trash team here in a year because he said he was going to retire in February. Hey, I was going to do one last run anyways, but the more and more I thought about it and talked about it with my wife and the mayor, fuck, my Kangol hat, I had that thing on, had a couple vitamins, and I don't mean the vitamins McAfee's smoking. I'm talking about the vitamins that I pour into a cup and I drink and it makes my liver go banana land and maybe not be able to walk in a straight line. But I got a driver and my fucking football mind's still good. And I've contributed a lot to the NFL and I've had a hell of a career

and this is going to be one last go. You know, we got Tom Brady back. We got Mike Evans back. We got Goblin back. I mean, what's Rob Gronkowski doing? We'll figure that out. Defense side of the ball, we're ready to go. But the more and more I thought about it, I'm like, you know,

it kind of fucking stinks for Todd Bowles if I get all this for my last year and then he gets nothing next year when I retire. That's a fascinating angle. And if that is what happened to Bruce Arians, he was in the bathroom in the shower. He was thinking about what the world looked like for Todd Bowles in the future and all of his assistant coaches who he has always cared deeply about. And I talk about this on Get Up.

Whenever he retired and he was on CBS for like three weeks until he said, why are you ass open? They said, you can't say that. And he said, what am I here for? What am I here for? And he hated the commentator life and he hated the retirement life. So he got back into coaching. It just so happened to be at the exact same time that a lot of his guys a lot of his

coaches people that he had been with for a long time didn't have jobs Bowles is one of them he was just fired from a head coaching gig he's like all right bring him in the D coordinator Clyde Christensen was in the middle of a transition Tom Moore was in the middle of a transition Byron Lefwich was in the middle of a transition. A.Q. Shipley was even able to get into coaching for him because of everything. He was a free agent. Bring you down to Tampa Bay. So if that is what happened, I think we're all going to find it a bit befuddling that that is just it kind of happened overnight for him or it happened in a conversation. Todd Bowles has got to be pumped. He just got a new five-year deal. He's going to get paid. He's got

Tom Brady at quarterback. Byron Lefkowitz is being kept as the offense coordinator. What does that mean going forward? Because I thought B.A. was a part of the game plan as well, if you remember listening to B.A. last year. Of course. Is Byron Lefkowitz ready to go on his own? How much say will Tom Brady have in this whole thing on the offensive side of it? Let's assume he's going to be a part of that conversation.

And the Bucs just kind of move forward, and we'll just have to do with a conspiracy thing for at least another week or two about, you know, it feels like this is maybe a decision that Tom made whenever he decided to come back. But I don't know if that's true, and I don't know if we'll ever know if that's true. Well, I mean, the worst part, Pat, is that it's not a conspiracy.

I mean, it is 1,000% true. I will go to my grave thinking this no matter what. We talked about Belichick and Brady hating each other for a month straight maybe leading up to that game and you know tom senior came out talking about belichick you know hey this guy he sucks all this bullshit tom hey time to get back on the goddamn mic and tell us what the tom senior not junior's father pat get him on a mic and we need to hear from him now more than we ever have because every other time he spoke no one really gave a shit hey tone digs imagine tom senior gets on like uh what is it up there weei there it is gets on weei up there tom wasn't coming back if that fucking guy was

there and then tom would have to do it yet again all right what my dad says does not necessarily reflect that of my views on the situation tone dig Diggs, you think the conspiracies on the internet that every, literally that post happens via Peter King and LA Times Farmer, who I believe we met Sam Farmer, I think is his name. We met him out at Radio Row. Cool dude, I think his kid watches this show, by the way. What's up, bro? Your dad has done incredible things, had a great insight there.

So as soon as that post goes up, it's immediately after everybody. The first thousand responses to every single post was literally all Tom ran his ass out of there. Tone Diggs is a Steeler fan and obviously a diehard NFL fan. And you, I mean, you would never be swayed by anybody else's thoughts. Obviously, you live life with a great backbone. It's hard not to think that Tom was a part of this. Isn't it, Tone? I mean, everybody's thinking that.

The dad angle is the only way that we're ever going to find out, like you guys were talking about. Tom's never going to say anything. Bruce is never going to say anything. Nobody in that organization is never going to say anything unless somebody played with someone for a long time, and then they come out and they throw their source under the bus or something like that. That kind of situation might happen um but for for this

i didn't even think about it until i saw those type of things and then i started believing more and more because when we talked to bruce and you heard everything that bruce was saying just a few weeks ago like that was not a guy who who sounded like oh if comes back, I'll retire and just hand the team over. That was a guy like, if Tom comes back, we really, really want Tom to come back, and I feel good about coaching still and stuff like that. So the more and more that I look into it and the more and more I think about it, it feels like the only plausible situation. Now, with that being said, humans are interesting creatures.

Sure. Bruce Arians, interesting guy. I think we can all agree on that. He's been there, done it a long time. He said, he openly said, now who knows what's real and what isn't, that, you know, February he was going to retire anyways in his session thing and how he talked about it. In the rap report, his tweet was perfectly crafted, you know,

like, you know, he's looking out for his guy, Todd Bowles here. You know, he recruited Tom back, got Tom all the way back, got that team back, got a franchise tag on Godwin, got Mike Evans back, got a defense. And Dominick Nsouz tweeting out his respect for Todd Bowles, although he is not signed, so maybe he'll go back there. But, man, it is difficult just to buy in that B.A., who at the Combine was so diligent on if Tom comes back,

he's playing for us. Tom comes back, he's playing for the Buccaneers. What would somebody have to offer up for Tom Brady? Five ones, that would be the beginning of the fucking conversation. What are you doing? He was stumping for Tom Brady to come back publicly, almost challenging Tom Brady a couple different times. He was like, well, fuck, I think he's like a lot of these other guys just wants his name out there like trying to prod tom

brady into coming back then tom brady comes back here we go there was no conversation immediately afterwards of tom brady coming back ba was happy i think in conversations and interviews and then when did it when did it hit maybe it was just sitting around sitting around tampa a little bit bat do you think this might have been a br Brady coming back might have been a fuck you to Bruce because Bruce was saying, you know, Tom likes to keep his name in the news and stuff like that. No, no, no. Because you're continuing to run with the fact that

Tom is pushing him out there with every single quote we've heard from BA, Tampa, all the insiders, and from Tom himself, it seemed like, with his Instagram posts. That is not the case, even though the internet is going to run with it. I just don't know how it played out. That is the thing for me.

Because retirement's a big deal, especially for a guy who already retired, hated it, fucking hated it. Get me back in there. And then he does it like there had to be some moment that it all kind of clipped for him and snapped for him. And we're being told that that happened, or Tom knew about it, the day after he went back or the day he went back. I don't understand any of it.

Awfully unselfish of Bruce to give up a position, one of 32, that everyone strives to be. That is the pinnacle in the football world to become a head coach. And you look at Bruce's career. He was the offensive coordinator for the Steelers back in the day. He was retired then too, right? He told the organization he was retiring. That's not the case.

They were told, hey, Bruce, take a hike. He goes to Indy. Jesus. Kind of revives his career as an OC, taking over for Chuck. Chuck is a head coach. The Chuck Schultz situation happens. Then Bruce goes on to Arizona, retires again, comes back. A couple retirements in there.

Bruce has been very open about it the whole time. Like, hey, the first time, didn't really want to retire. Second time, okay, maybe I'll give it a shot didn't love it coming back this one same thing no way this is tom coming back in there bruce said we'll leave the light on for you tom said you're gonna leave your computer you're gonna leave your desk you're gonna leave everything get your playbook by the way you know how the uh the internet is hard and we're an internet show so ty it is hard not to just be like there's a lot of valid points because as a human you're trying to piece together the timeline of when ba went to the combine which every coach

hates then he had to answer a bunch of questions about tom and he was talking shit on tom but also felt like he was still very hopeful tom was going to come back and knock on his door we'll leave the light on for him to your point and then just just out of nowhere somewhere, he's like, you know what, Todd Bowles? It's your fucking team now. Like Drew Brees did to James Winston. Todd Bowles, this is your team now. That just seems like something that doesn't make a lot of sense timeline-wise. But once again, this is the NFL, and we are talking about human style.

Yeah, no, it seems like it's absolute bullshit, especially when you look at all the stuff that was lining up. Like last year, he coached on a torn achilles all year he's like healthy he actually kind of maybe gets to go back to being a little bit normal and like if if he was gonna retire you know like same deal it's very admirable that the story is coming out where it's like hey you know he's just looking out for todd bowles it's not fair you know this is his guy he wants him to get a ring that he feels like he earned on his own. There's still... Why would he

do it now? Why would he wait until now if he... I mean, why wouldn't he be retired multiple weeks ago, even with the Brady stuff? It is admirable what they're trying to do, but I think it's also to think that this is anything other than Brady just being like, yeah, fuck it. I don't want to...

I'm not doing another go-around with this guy. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Everything's lining up against it. I just don't know how – I mean, again, that story, you know, in the fairytale world, like, that's great. That's an awesome story, but I think it's a line of horse shit. Yes, because why wouldn't you? If you were going to hand – maybe he didn't want to hand it over to Todd Bowles

when Tom Brady wasn't back and they had all these free agents because it was a bad team. So then he's able, B.A.'s able to recruit all these people back. It's a good team again. He's like, all right, now's the time. Todd, good luck here. Hopefully you can win, and hopefully you can keep all these one-year contracts we got signed here next year and not have to go through hell.

It is very admirable, and I would like to let everybody know that although the internet is certain, okay, the internet is certain that this is what happened. Sounds like Connor's certain. 100%. Nick wearing the Brock Lesnar t-shirt. It sounds like you're 100% certain.

Sounds like the boys back in Indianapolis, who we did not chat about this topic before we went live onto the air today because we're in two different cities. We're in Jerry World in Dallas. The boys are back in our studio in Indianapolis. I would like everybody to know that I'm still holding on hope that Bruce Arians was like, you're welcome.

Sure. I mean, I hope. He had to have said that to the Bulls, by the way. Think about if, let's say, the way they are saying it is happening, the insiders, and they have a press conference in like 40-some minutes or whatever. The Bucs do. I assume they're going to have big-time conversation.

Imagine that convo when B.A. walks into Todd Bowles' office or to his house or maybe they're at a beach, and he goes, I've been fucking thinking. And Todd Bowles goes, we're running this thing back or whatever? And he's like, if I was to hand you this team next year after I leave, all these fucking guys are going to leave. You get a shit bird team in here in Tampa. And we all know how hot it is, and we know what Tampa was before we got here

and after Mike Allstott left. And I'm thinking now that we got all these good players back, it's your team now. Think about Todd Bowles going like, I love you, motherfucker. You know, Todd Bowles had to be so happy, so thankful. If this is how it actually went down, think about that moment between two old friends,

old colleagues having to share that information with each other. I wish I was a fly on that beach, in that room, wherever it was. Because Todd Bowles had to have thought to himself, okay, I will actually take a fly on that beach in that room wherever it was because Todd Bowles had to have thought to himself okay I will actually take a bullet for you pal I mean if that's if that is what happened this is a fairy tale movie type scene that is being created from one friend to another something that you would hope your friends would do for you at some point this is like greatest friendship of all time almost movie movie-type accolades there. And the internet refuses to believe it.

I want everybody to know me. I'm holding on hope that that magical moment did happen. You know what, Todd? I got my Super Bowl. This team's ready for another run. We're odds-on favorites in the NFC. You take it. Hey.

You take it. I was talking shit to Tom and to everybody, and I blew out my fucking Achilles last year. We lost to Matt Stafford. I mean, it was a bad game. You saw that. And I was going to come back. I fought through all of that, and I was going to come back,

and I took a lot of ammo at the combine, the questions. A lot of people taking shots at me, a lot of that, a lot of the whole team, and I ate all of that. And now we're the number one seed,. Now we're favored in the NFC. We got Tom Brady back, the greatest of all time. I'm not 100% sure how much more work I'd do during the day than if I wasn't to be here. I'm not sure if I'm just overseeing the whole thing. But I don't want to do it anymore.

Get me out of here. It's your team now. I mean, the more and more we talk about that, how that had to have played out, the more and more it feels like that probably didn't happen. I mean, I'm holding on hope, though. I am holding on hope. That's because you're a good guy. Yeah, I am. But, I mean, even when you look at the

contracts, like, I now don't think this is Brady's last year. Jensen signed a three-year deal. Godwin signed a three-year deal. Fournette signed a three-year deal. Evans has two, I think, left. Evans has two left. Like, I think now Tom's probably going to, because, I mean, in his tweet, too, in his post, unfinished business. If they don't win the Super Bowl this year, is that

just going to change in a year? Foxy, can you pop up Tom Brady's uh post so we can read this and I want you know now that I'm sitting here with people that see it through the eyes of somebody who believes that it's all bullshit what they're cooking up I'd like to hear your thoughts on the sentences that Tom Brady put out there because we have to remember in the NFL you have to listen to what words are being said thank you BA for all that you have done for me and our team. You're an incredible man and coach, and it was a privilege to play for you. You are a true NFL legend and pioneer for all the work you have done to make the league more diverse and inclusive.

So go on. Anything there that you guys have heard yet? So far, all good. I think he's spot on. Okay. Smart, tough, and loyal are a few of the words to describe your style. I will

always remember the conversations we had when you recruited me two years ago, and all of the things we discussed came true. We all benefited from your leadership and guidance, and I'm so proud of everything we accomplished. You were a huge part of the decision to join the Bucs, and I'm forever grateful. Okay? So what are you going to piece together here? You were a huge part of the decision to join the Bucs, and I'm forever grateful.

Okay? So what are you going to piece together here? I mean, huge part of the decision. Last year, or not last year, two years ago when they won the Super Bowl, it was reported that it turned into Tom's offense, not Bruce's. And what about Chris Godwin, Mike Evans? See, you assholes are going to pick up on it. Tone, is this what you're seeing as well, Tone?

Is this what you're seeing as well? What do you think? Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm seeing as well, Tone? Is this what you're seeing as well? What do you think? Yeah. This looks like it was Bruce's ask for in the negotiation. Hey, Tom, I'll step aside, but you've got to put out a nice little... No, Tom, by the way, if what you guys are saying is happening, that Tom is... They're trying to privately... They're trying to cover up him saying he's got to go.

Tom would certainly post about that anyways. Like, I don't think B.A. would say it. He would certainly post about it. I don't know if he'd use words like that. And let's go to the last one. So, I'm so happy you will spend the much-deserved time with your loving and supportive family that has given so much to our communities. Congratulations on an amazing coaching career,

but more importantly, how you positively impacted me and everyone else in the game of football. Heart, heart, heart. So you don't think that's a guy that wouldn't have loved for Bruce Aarons to be his coach this year? Absolutely not. I'm so happy. Ty, are you the same way, Ty?

Is this happening? The talk show table is separated from state, but are you guys on the same page? Yeah, for sure. That's a complete line of horseshit. More like, hey, have a great life now that I don't have to fucking deal with you anymore. Enjoy, Bruce.

The organization was going to bend over backwards for Tom at every step of the way. So this is the last checkmark on the list. Hey, I'll come back and I'll send a nice little Instagram message, but I don't ever want to see fucking Bruce Arians again. Jeez Louise. Make sure Tommy puts his hearts at the end of the Instagram post. Okay, dude. All right.

Also, we can't trust any post that Tom ever puts out. I mean, he retired a month ago. He's back. Okay. And we can't trust the guy. Anything this guy says. He is a backstabbing turncoat. Jeez.

Whoa. Turncoat maybe. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Let's get to a break, please, because Randy Orton's going to be here on the other side. Hell yeah. But I would like to hold on hope that Bruce did do what they're saying he did.

Okay? Yeah. And there's a press conference coming in 32 minutes. We'll learn a lot. That last paragraph, I'm so happy you get time to spend, you know. Much deserved. Yeah, much deserved with your loving family. Tom spent, what?

This song stinks. Tom spent six weeks with his loving family this song stinks Tom spent 6 weeks with his loving family and said Jesus fucking Christ get me back on a football field I'm sure BA is probably thinking the same thing a man who will be in his 18th or 19th Wrestlemania this upcoming weekend

currently a member of the RK Bro tag team,. Third generation superstar who looks, I think, better than he's ever looked. If I look like this dude, I would never wear a shirt and I would put my face everywhere. He's humble.

He's hardworking. He's beloved by everybody. Ladies and gentlemen, Randy Orton. Yeah, Randy! Thanks for having me. Thank you. I like the energy.

I appreciate you, man. If you have to change where that microphone is, let us know. Pleasure. Hey. How are you? Hey, that was a good handshake, by the way. Just so everybody knows, that was a good handshake. I'm sorry.

I was running a little late. You mentioned the dice. You said, I'm looking pretty good. I've been watching what I eat. I've been motivated. Can you move that thing a little closer to you? Yeah. Is this better?

Yeah. You can just move the whole stand. The yeah that's perfect i saw vince having a hard time hey he beat the hell out of that thing oh my god did he hard act to follow but but anyway i had to run to the restroom man sugar alcohols what's that sugar alcohols so i'm watching what i eat and i'm eating these uh larry and lenny's cookies right and i'm watching what I eat, and I'm eating these Larry and Lenny's cookies, right? And I'm watching what the abs of WrestleMania season, right? So they replace the sugar and the carbs with sugar alcohols. Well, that shit runs right through you, bro.

So when I just came in here and I was running late, I had to take care of some business. I apologize. No, no, no. Listen. When you got to go, you got to go. So just fair no. Listen. When you got to go, you got to go. So just fair warning. Anybody, crew guys, don't use that restroom for at least 30 minutes.

Okay. Oh, my God. I did not know that's where we were headed. I'm excited. I'm excited for the warning. Sugar and alcohol. Stay away from. Hey, it's worth it, though. I think whatever you're doing.

It's not worth it. No, it is. No, it's not. Have you seen the way you look, honestly? Yeah, but if you were in there with me a few minutes ago, you would not think it's worth it, though. I think whatever you're doing. It's not worth it. No, it is. No, it's not. Have you seen the way you look, honestly? Yeah, but if you were in there with me a few minutes ago, you would not think it's worth it. No, but thank you very much. I'm shredded right now.

Absolutely shredded. And I owe a lot of that to Riddle because I'm really having a lot of fun right now. And I feel like it's a direct result of the energy. Like the energy you bring to your show here the reason it's different i feel like riddle's different he's got a certain energy he's uh he people kind of gravitate towards him the fans love him he's he's awesome his facial expressions he but he enjoys being in that ring and he kind of it's rubbed off on me and I'm having fun out there. And the fans, I think, can sense that I'm having fun.

What year is this for you in the business? I think in about three weeks, it's 20 years on television. Hey, let's go. Two decades, not easy. Not easy? No, no, it's a lot of bumps. It's a lot of traveling, but I feel like I kind of got injured very early in my career several times, boom, boom, boom. And I had to figure out, you know, if I'm going to do this for a long time, if I'm going to have any kind of longevity, I got to figure out how to do that.

And that's what I've done. And I've kind of, I've toned back the physicality to the point where, you know, I know what I'm capable of. I know what my body's capable of, but I also know what I need to do out there in order to get a reaction. And I don't need to break my neck. 200 times a year, like back in the day. Yeah, but you are so good in there. 220 shows a year, bro. You can't physically, you know, shows a year bro you can't physically uh uh you know survive decades in this industry if you're killing yourself every night and i can understand that completely of course you can't and i and by the way just because i did one match okay i did one match and uh i called the people that were that i knew in the business or whatever next day i couldn't move right couldn't move yeah day after that couldn't move yeah i actually had a move. Day after that, couldn't move. Yeah.

I actually had a neck brace on the goddamn show. We thought I had a T2 or whatever. I literally, for three days, couldn't move. Sure. I had one match. Sure. Okay? That thing carried on for like a week, two weeks or whatever.

You guys doing these matches. And back in the day, whenever you started like 20, you're like four or five days a week, I think, working at that time. Right? That's old school. You're like an old school guy. I'm not. I'm not. No not so old school so my dad you know i i think they just did an evil episode where he was interviewed and and between the ages of 5 and 12 like he was he was home you know 5 10 15 times a year you know i didn't get to see him at all he was gone 100 days in a row when he when he left wwf wwe he started

traveling to japan he'd be gone for months at a time you know there was a definitely a gap in my childhood where he was on the road so old school like that that's all that's a thousand miles in the car yeah so uh the guys nowadays have it better than i had it but i have it way better than did you know you wanted to be so for instance, I'm watching Young Rock right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm watching Young Rock, and it feels like the entire story is almost that his dad was in the business. Obviously, his mom's entire family was in the business,

and he's known everybody that's been in the business for a long time. Right. But it feels like he didn't want to be in the business for whatever reason. Sure. Whenever he's six foot, just like you. The prototype, basically, of what a person. You are. So is he, right? business for whatever reason sure whenever he's six foot just like you the prototype basically of what you are so is he right you are two prototypes of what wrestlers are supposed to look like okay you did not want to be in wrestling or did you think it was something you were going

to do or did you it was uh it was kind of a confidence thing like i never looked at myself and thought like oh he there's the fucking man right there. I didn't know how to build myself up. I didn't look in the mirror and see someone capable of following in my father's footsteps. And I've talked about that before, like, you know, getting bullied as a kid and shit like that. You know, I kind of went through it and had my own, you know, but all kids deal with that, right? And I think it's helped me now.

I see the kids in the front row being a father too you know a lot's changed in my life you know from when i was in my 20s but i see these kids and man they make my day putting a smile on a kid's face you know especially like those little eight nine ten year old girls i i'm a you know uh i have two daughters that i they're just you know i'm wrapped around their fingers i I love my three sons, too. But there's something about those little girls. And it's funny, because in my 20s, I used to be looking for the chicks in the audience. You know what I mean?

Now, you know, I'm actually, what is it, tomorrow I turn 42? Happy birthday! Yeah, yeah, thank you. Happy birthday. Thank you. You look incredible. Thank you very much. I don't want to turn this into just complimenting you the entire time.

You said that like 10 times in the last few months. Bro, I told you that. You came and did a Raw in Indianapolis. And I don't know if Nick was with me, but a couple of my friends were with me. And it was a commercial break. And you were on the side right in front of us there. And that was the first time I've seen you in person or whatever. And you were all, you know, walled up.

You had the whole thing. And I'm just like, God damn. And I think I even said to you uh sir i believe i said if i look like you i would try to never wear clothes this is incredible and you gave like a cool like thank you or something and i was like oh this guy's like the coolest guy of all time but then whenever i hear you like talk uh i know that like wrestling was not necessarily going to be your thing so i was always fascinated by it because your family's in it you're so good good at it. You took to it like a fish to water. You're the youngest heavyweight champion in the history of the business. That's true.

I am. And you're still going, though, 20 years later. How have you been able to maintain, you think, other than the physicality, because the road, the mentality, also the drama that's allegedly in wrestling, let alone I couldn't even imagine with you, with how young you were. Yeah. How have you been able to keep going? You think it's such a high level.

I don't know, Pat. I don't know because I you, with how young you were. How have you been able to keep going? You think it's such a high level. I don't know, Pat. I don't know because I've made so many mistakes. And there was so many times where, you know, the next day I should have woke up and not had a job here. And there's so many people. Like, you know, one day if I'm lucky enough to be in the Hall of Fame, like my list of thank yous is going to be very long. But, you know, Triple h just retired the other day that was emotional for me because like that man if it wasn't for that man like i wouldn't be here right now me too by the way yeah you know yeah i believe more than me but yeah i believe it he's that kind of man and and and you know on a personal level that

there's that but then like he saw something in me and he wanted to for the business's sake he wanted to help the industry and help the business that gave him everything that he loved you know from a kid and and that his way of doing it is helping guys like me but that was 20 years ago when you think about it he was when he gave me that push and evolution like he was only in his early 30s so i think about when i was in my early 30s where i was in the business like i was nowhere near that level of maturity and understanding of psychology and just let me reiterate maturity you know like he was he was a man at 32 and i remember looking up to him and and it's just it's it's kind of funny when i think of myself when i was 32 like oh fuck I had nowhere near my shit together like

he did um but it's motivating to look at that and to kind of set that as the example of what I'd like to do for the business that gave me so much you know yeah you never really ventured out of the business right you did a couple movies but you stuck you stuck in yeah I did those I've I've auditioned for stuff and I I still do. Hate it? Hate the movies? Hate it. Hate it. Love watching them.

Process. Hate the fucking process. I've had to see one once in a while. I don't watch any of the movies I've been in. They're just not good. But it's like, so I didn't audition for those projects. I was told,

hey, so you're injured? All right, while you're healing, you're going to star in this movie. Okay, do I have any say in this? Like, can I at least learn how to act first? Like, sure, let's give you an acting coach the day before you start shooting. Shit, okay. So like 12 hours of acting classes with a coach, and just everything's over your head, and you don't know what. So you just use kind of your real-life experiences in the WWE,

being on camera, being in the ring, being on live TV. You kind of pick up a lot of shit that you don't even know you're picking up. So on a movie set, it came a little easier. It was a great experience, but I love what I'm doing right now. You're perfect for wrestling. I love what I'm doing. I love what I'm doing in the ring. I would love to do it for a much longer time.

So you haven't even thought? 10 more years, 12 more years. I'd like to be like Taker, and when I get to the point where my body's like, okay, maybe not every week, I'd love to SummerSlam, WrestleMania, come and have that big match. Hey, Cena just said this.

So Cena literally just said this the other day. He was talking about how at his age, he has to be realistic with his schedule, but he would love to be a full-time WWE guy. I believe that. What is it about it? Like now that I'm around it, by the way, I love everything about it. Yeah. I enjoy the hell out of it.

I know it's a business. I understand it's a business, but it feels like the guys that are really good at it are fully in love with the business. What is it about the business that you enjoy and why do you love being a superstar? God, I love being in the locker room like the guys that are really good at it are fully in love with the business. What is it about the business that you enjoy, and why do you love being a superstar? God, I love being in the locker room with the guys. I love having, you know, I don't have really friends, you know, in real life. Like my acquaintances, the fellow wrestlers, they're my friends, you know. Like, you know the locker room feeling, that bonding know being on a european tour being in the

back of the bus with five or six guys that you can just shoot the shit with and hang out have a drink cop a buzz and fucking just you know talk talk about real life shit talk like i enjoy the road aspect but the older i've gotten like that road life's hard. So like, you know, it's kind of like with COVID and everything, there hasn't been as many overseas tours. And, you know, it's good for the body, a little less travel. But now I'm like kind of chomping at the bit. I want to go on a European tour. I want to sit in the back of the bus with the guys

and have a few drinks and just talk. And you're old guard now, right? So it's different conversations now that you're a Randy Orton, 42-year-old icon, definitely going in the fucking Hall of fame you need to relax yeah yeah yeah you know i i uh i don't know if much there's a maturity there there's there's maybe the the the topics of conversation have definitely changed but in that excitement that passion that'll never change that like so i'm. So I'm an addict, but luckily for me, I've found that my drug of choice is those fucking people. Yeah, yeah. Our fans.

Like, I took them for granted for so long, Pat. Our fans are everything. And when they give you that noise, when they give you that excitement and that energy, and when you can tell that they're buying your shit and when you can tell that they're believing not buying your shit when they're believing yes your shit like buying not your merch your stuff no right don't buy my shit no no no no everybody know what you meant though you don't have to correct austin's always going to outsell everybody when it comes to the merch.

Austin and Cena are always going to be the top merch guys. I ain't even, but right, in the ring. That's my drug of choice. It's a challenge every night because you never know what you're going to get. And it's fun to be in there with guys that have that passion

and maybe aren't quite on your level and they're just sponges absorbing shit and then like i'm in that that zone where oh wow like so the stuff that's kind of just comes natural to me and it's common sense and that i don't even really think about this is like gold to some of these guys who i take for granted that we're all like oh this is common sense not necessarily yeah it is Yeah. It is to me. That's going to happen to me, I think. Because I've been just doing it so long.

Right, right. Yeah. But like, I'm able to help these guys and they'll come to me and go, hey, you know, when I did this, you know, I was thinking maybe I should have done this. Would that have been bad? And it's like, I can give them advice and really know what the fuck I'm talking about. And it's the only thing I know what I'm talking about. Pro wrestling.

Like, I really do understand that psychology in the ring. And it's like that light bulb went on for me years ago, and I remember that feeling, and I like to see it go on for other guys. Like Austin Theory. So, yeah, I'm beating into him on Sunday. Oh, you're gonna

beat the shit out of him. You're a man. He's a boy. You need to teach him a lesson. But this is great. He's gonna boy. You need to teach him a lesson. Yeah, here we go. But this is great. He's going to get a WrestleMania moment. I believe that's his first one. Well, he did the, I think last year. Okay, okay. No, two years ago, man.

But maybe not a singles match, I'm guessing. This is a big deal for him too, man. So it'll be fun. But you got to teach that boy a lesson. Yeah, you're damn right. I mean, humble him down a little bit. And I think what you were referring to there is something that happens in the nfl i was talking to your wife about it who by the way you two are a inspiring couple i'd like to let you know like

honestly like like you see every time i see you she's there there's always an embrace on tv as well like you guys are an awesome couple i'd like to let you know you guys are an awesome couple thanks hey no problem at all. I agree. Now, following up here. Yeah. I think what I heard you talk about with that light bulb going off is something that happens in the NFL. And I asked her about this with you

because she probably saw it more so than anybody else. So whenever guys get into the NFL, hey, I'm in the NFL. Oh my God, I'm in the NFL. They're paying me to play. I'm a big dog. I can put in my Twitter bio.

I can put in my Instagram. Okay, I'm in the NFL. I got more money. I can take care of my people. Life is is good then there's a business thing that happens where a jading potentially happens and the guys are good but they're just going to work like hey they're work they probably don't even like the building that they're in they like their teammates but they hate the people they're playing for then as they continue to go they get older they see like the end is near almost and they're like alright I'm

gonna start enjoying this I'm gonna start taking every single meeting like it's my last meeting my practice like it's the last practice to travel the trips the games there's almost like an enlightenment that comes that oh my god i don't know how many more of these i got i've been taking for granted does that did that happen to you and do you think that happens in every single profession that is at a like a professional sports level i i mean i can't speak on any other you know yeah but but you hit it on the head 100 yeah yeah you know took it for granted even got a little bitter maybe uh bitter maybe didn't enjoy a paycheck a time or two and let that you know be the one thing that i dwelled on when I didn't see the big picture and then you know getting

complacent phoning it in um being good enough to kind of just you know half-ass it half-ass it and uh knowing the cameras aren't on and knowing that I can give the people their money's worth without fucking really breaking a sweat that's a dangerous place to be yeah and i was there i was definitely there and you could probably go back uh during my career um and and you know depending on the year go up yep he was phoning it in and and i i i regret that what the fuck am i gonna do about it can't do nothing now nothing except for lay the next groundwork except talk about it and fucking what happened what was it what do you think uh there was a couple things a few of them personal no no i'm talking to get you out of that oh to get me out of that yeah oh shit uh my wife being a fucking

badass woman um thank you yes yes yes yes yes uh the people I'm working with. You know where... So it started to turn around for me years ago just because I think I was maturing. I became a father and stuff, but my opponents. Working with Edge two years ago, right when the pandemic was... It was right before COVID, we started working.

Top of that truck. Having Edge come... Right, right, right and having Edge come right right right having Edge come back and having that that that that person that kind of mentored me and I looked up to that bigger brother figure that I haven't had you know for a decade now all of a sudden I got this guy oh wow hey can you help me with that you know instead of everyone coming to me or instead of me feeling like I didn't have anyone to talk to, now I got Edge,

who's probably one of the best minds in the business that I've been fortunate enough to be in the ring with. He helped turn it around for me because he had that old school mentality and he knew how to work and he wasn't taught that

when the red light's on, cream the shit out of the guy because there's an art to what we do and a lot of guys have lost that art and now instead of selling a punch because you need to sell a punch now I'm protecting myself because I don't want to get my fucking jaw broken and that's unfortunate but the art to professional wrestling like when Vince was on he talked about your number one priority above all being protecting your opponent.

That's not taught necessarily in NXT. And I know that. So you thought it was changing. I've been in the ring with guys that came from NXT, and they don't know what the fuck they're doing. And it's unfortunate. But that, I think, is just kind of how things are changing. I remember you going through those tweets about the knee thing that everybody's doing. Yeah. Well, and that was just kind of how things are changing i remember you going through those tweets about uh the knee thing that everybody's doing yeah well and that was just kind of fucking around and having fun and people you know everyone's slapping their knee yeah that was a thing for a while you

know what i mean yeah yeah and like so you know one every now and again okay but there was a couple guys that overdid it but but edge coming though kind of reminded you of the business edge where i go you know what i can trust this guy i can give this guy my body in this ring and tell this story and i don't have to in the back of my head worry about him only being concerned with looking cool in that ring and hitting the fuck out of me and blood taking my head off because he knows i'm gonna fucking i know how to work and when he hits me i'm gonna sell i'm gonna react and i'm gonna make it bigger and i'm gonna he doesn't have to hurt it makes everything better yeah yes it's it's it's amazing how beautiful this industry is and how how how like artful it is and it just how you know uh

story the right way to do things in that ring, longevity-wise. There's a reason why I've been doing it for 20 years, and I'll do it for another 10. And I want everyone to be able to put food on the table and clothes on their back and take care of their families for 10, 20, 30 years. But they're not going to be able to because they're going to be all fucked up.

And so I'm trying to preach that longevity. You know what I mean? Isn't the story in the match too much better whenever things matter, right? If I'm able to think about what's happening right now in the moment and not worry about, like, okay, here's this fucking guy. I don't know where he's coming from. Because you've got to protect yourself. And I would imagine on the field, like, you you really got guys trying to take your fucking head off,

so you really got to protect yourself. I was dead either way. Does it have to be? I was. I had my leg up in the air. Yeah. Oh, right. I couldn't even imagine.

Yeah, well, I can't do that anymore. But I was dead either way. You can't put your leg up in the air anymore? I'm too old now, man. I'm too old, Randy. I don't know. You doing all the yoga stuff? You a super flexible guy?

I'm not big into the yoga, but stretching, activation, like all that stuff. Like I'm not putting weight on the bar and seeing how much I can lift, obviously. Well, I don't want to say it again, but. Diet. I think cutting out the sugar, cutting out the alcohol. Well, yeah, the sugar alcohol. You put those together. Don't put them together.

Bad, bad, very explosive. But a lot of this was the diet. I feel like muscle memory. I've been training for forever. 20, 30 years. Yeah, the diet. The diet's where it's at. So Reg was the guy, though, that came back and was like,

kind of put you back in his zone, like, all right, I can work here. Let's go and do this. He made me realize, like, oh, yeah, I can go 45 minutes with the guy that knows what the fuck he's doing and uh where are these other guys that know what the fuck they're doing and and they started to come up bray wyatt was there i got to work with him that was a little odd yeah do not to give anything away but you that was no way that was you neither of you were happy without no no no no no no, no, no. And I think there was

some issues where he wasn't able to do a lot of stuff in the ring for a while. So like, that got weird. But Bray Wyatt's a hell of a fucking talent. And now, of course, Riddle. For the last year,

I've been out there with him. He's only been wrestling six years, but he just gets it. He just gets it. He just gets it. He understands that those people are looking here and they're looking at the body language. He knows how to sell. And he captivates those people.

You know what I mean? And he captivates me. Hey, tag team wrestling a little bit different than the singles competition. Are you enjoying it? Okay, titles are online this weekend. Oh, yeah. Against the Alpha Academy and Street Profits.

WrestleMania. Yeah. Was it not number 18 for me, I think? Wow. I believe so. Yeah, I might be wrong, but I think it's 18. Tag team a little bit different, though, than singles. Much different, right?

It is. I've always preferred singles competition. It's just me and the other guy and you can kind of just it's just easier to tell that story for me you know just you and the other story of the fight by the way is what people that don't know wrestling is what we've been talking about basically this entire last 15 minutes or whatever yeah yeah the story is everything um if you're just out there hitting each other with moves it's anybody can do that it's how do you

play on those fans emotions what did you do last week take them on a ride and anything can be a story anything can be a story you can make up a half a dozen little stories while you're out there oh wow did you see that

there's so many you just gotta stay open half a dozen little stories while you're out there that, oh, wow, did you see that? There's so many. You just got to stay open, and you can't get into a rut like I've gotten where you just, this works, I'm going to keep doing this. You got to try. You got to keep evolving, man. That's why tag team has been awesome. The RK-Bro tag team has been everything because, by the way, for those that don't know, Randy wasn't always in on Riddle what no yeah riddle had to earn his trust it was a long time just recently he said

they were friends and that was a big deal last week ago and then here on this show you just did a whole i mean you cut like a five minute promo and how awesome riddle was look at this relationship coming full circle riddle's a good cat did not like him at first and i think it was just one of those things where i was being a judgmental prick no yeah no we all have it we all have it sure sure well you know you know the locker room you know you've been there and and you got a new guy coming in and even though there's no threatening uh to your position whatsoever still you got this new guy coming in and and you're out there in the ring together, trusting each other with your body, with your health. And you got to shake my hand, lick me in the eye and hey, I need to know you and have some sort of relationship with you in the back before we

go out there and I'm going to go here. Yeah, pick me up and don't drop me on my head. You know what I mean? And I think it just took him a while to kind of open up and to be okay with developing that relationship. But once he did, and then I kind of realized, okay, I get what kind of guy he is. I had the same problem with Dean Ambrose. And if you know Dean at all, he's a different kind of cat. It took a couple years, but then you finally realize, oh, okay, I get it. He's just a fucking weirdo. So am I.

So is everybody else in this locker room. We're all fucking weird. So, you know, I try to be less of a judgmental prick these days, too. Well, that's awesome because everybody that's coming in has been a fan of yours forever. Just like all of us, dude. You're an absolute legend. Thank you for stopping. I think Connor has one question for you, if that's okay.

Yeah, I got one. Randy, you mentioned how much you love the crowd, and that's kind of like your addiction almost. Are there any cities when you go to that you get a little more juiced up for? And also, how hard was it without any fans for that year plus? Yeah, I'm

sure you've heard it from the guys. Not having fans was the hardest. I was lucky because when it first started and there was no fans, no noise, not even the other NXT guys there cheering anybody on, I didn't have to really wrestle at all during that little couple months. I remember watching WrestleMania and like Kofi and maybe John Morrison and a couple guys, They were having a ladder match at the PC for WrestleMania with no sound, no crowd.

Can you imagine? Can you imagine? So hats off to those guys. But yeah, without the crowd, insane. What was the other question? Like your favorite city, like when you're going to a city. Oh, favorite city. So the absolute loudest place I've ever been was uh seoul south korea what oh yeah

how many countries have you not been to other than the ones that are i think i'm right around 50 countries but but i remember and this was early in my career uh career seoul south korea was the absolute loudest place i have ever been there's some very loud places all across the world you know um but seoul south South Korea, for some reason. Ears ringing type stuff? Like, you can't hear yourself think. Yeah. Surpassing ears ringing.

Like, just complete, like, what is going on here? But just, you know. And that's what, by the way, that's what you're looking for every single night. Every single night. They have me cut, like, a little promo in the commercial. It's called the McAfee Minute. Yeah. And literally, I'm complimenting the cities.

In what I'm saying, I'm like, hey, you guys have been awesome tonight. Because it is a huge part of the live shows. There's a couple people that haven't been fans, maybe, of wrestling. You go to a live event, and you can literally yell, kill him! Like you can say, it is an electric environment. It is. It is. And you can tell the difference yeah and then and if those guys in the ring are the kind of talent that can let those people in a little more because it's a live event they're gonna have even more fun and

that's a lot of times the case with these live events that's like grassroots we get into those smaller towns and and that's where people get to really see our show and see what it's all about. More tickets this weekend, I think, than any other. I heard that. That's pretty insane. I feel like WWE's Vince is setting records damn near every other quarter. Your relationship with Vince. Yeah, it's been a long, steady, growing one.

I'd say early on, most of our encounters were because I was fucking up. Yes. Not necessarily positive. No, no, no, no, no. But I was very fortunate because he took a liking to me. And I think it's kind of like a father figure on the road. I was so young, and I think he saw a little bit of something of himself in me because I'm a little batshit crazy, and I think he's seen me kind of throw a tantrum or two and kind of get emotional and lose it,

and I've had a couple deep conversations with the guy, and he's known some of the troubles that I've went through, so we're kind of on a different level, you know, and I think he kind of sees a little bit of himself in me. And I think that's why he took a liking to me. But I think he also, he sees that I'm a WWE guy. I started out a WWE guy, and I'm not going anywhere. And even a couple years ago,

there might have been some chatter and some talk, And even a couple years ago, there might have been some chatter and some talk, but I wasn't really the guy talking about really going anywhere else. That was just the Internet and everybody. And I just kind of sat back. Hey, the dart sheets are an interesting world. I was like, oh, this is interesting. I never said that. And here I am.

My contract's up in a couple years, and I'll sign another one. I love this place. I love getting to do shit like this. And, you know, here I am. My contract's up in a couple years, and I'll sign another one. Like, I love this place. I love getting to do shit like this. WrestleMania, this is my 18th WrestleMania in a couple days. Dude, I... There's going to be 100,000 people out there. Here's to 10 more WrestleManias. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. As we wrap this up, though, like, I would assume that Vince, you know, he gets all the heat for all the bad ideas that happen. When you're going live every single week, every two times a week on TV, the two, both the first longest and the second longest episodic television series is of all time. Right. Raw and Smackdown. So those are the two. So you're going to get some bad ideas in there.

Every show you watch, there's some fucking bad episodes. Right. Every once in a while, that's going to happen happen he never gets credit for like the good stuff though whenever you think like you know stone cold the rock brock lesnar you go through the list of just success and hey there's a lot more randy fucking orton's on one of those fucking on that list so that's uh i think by the way you should be pumped you've done the business well and i think vince should also uh probably take a victory lap every once in a while and be like, I saw something in this guy and stuck by this guy's side

when a lot of people didn't, and now he is one of the goats at what he does, man. It's awesome. Thanks, Pat. I appreciate that. I definitely feel lucky to be here, and at this point in my career, you know, fuck, luck had nothing to do with it. I deserve to be here. Respect, by the way.

I really love the people I work with. I recognize their talent and their passion, and I respect them. And I think I'm still growing as an individual, and I got a long way to go. You know, I fuck up daily. But I think my heart's in the right place. And I really want to see this place be all it can be. I fuck up daily. But I think my heart's in the right place. And I really want to see this place be all it can be. We do so many good things with Make-A-Wish and for children across the world.

Connor's Cure. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? That's such a huge deal. And getting to meet that little boy and his father and brother and to be there on the ground and see all that take place with stephanie and hunter hunter right there at the forefront of it we're doing so many great things and a lot of times you know they call out the negative here and there you don't hear about all the good there's so much fucking good this company is doing king kerr every day and there's so many great people that work for this company and then we're going to be here forever and i look forward to being a part of the wwe you know long after i'm able to you know not take a bump anymore i'll be here well

that's awesome to hear we can't wait to watch and the wwe is literally a family yes and you're like one of the ogs in the family you know so it's awesome take that ladies and gentlemen he's got is it saturday or sunday sunday, I probably won't let me call it. No. No. No. Maybe. You never know.

You never fucking know, do you? Yeah, maybe. I mean, Royal Rumble, I got a chance in there. Anything can happen. Anything can happen. It's WrestleMania. By the way, that is something else that should be talked. If you've never seen a WrestleMania before, the amount of absurd shit that's going to

happen over Saturday and Sunday during WrestleMania, only available on the cock peacock is absurd absurd the cock did you call it the cock peacock peacock okay the cock for short is that like a nickname for the the well we didn't i mean i don't know if we created it but it seems like that's what the peacock would be short you don't have to call it i i didn't know if you meant to do that i just think it's pretty cool i'm gonna start calling it the cock too well i will say in in wwe world i'm not sure it's necessarily as uh well received as in my world here because i have said that before on uh on air before and they've gone uh uh peacock is the name of the oh yeah yeah sorry sorry sorry peacock. Like those tuxedo shorts a couple years ago. Hopefully I don't have that moment.

Ladies and gentlemen, Randy Orton. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Joining us, not only a man from Manatee, Ohio, who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, and a COVID survivor, but ladies and gentlemen, a former NFL head coach who happens to have friends all around

the Tampa Bay Buccaneers coaching staff, Chuck Pagano. Yeah, Chuck! Pagano, how we doing? Good to see you, boys. Hey. Been a long time. Everything good? Yeah, everything's great.

We miss you, man. What have you been up to? Just living? Living the dream. Hey, good a long time. I think good everything's great. We miss you man. What have you been up to just living in? Living living the dream little babysitting activity today got got bear Charles on Thursday So Tina and I are holding down the fort here for a minute Well, I'm assuming you're having a great time with that. You love being a grandpa your love in life with Tina So we don't want to take too much time let's dive right into it the conversation all morning since last night has been Bruce Arians stepping down going into a senior advisor role

obviously you and Bruce Arians very tight hey cuz you guys are very tight he then hands it off the baton to Todd Bowles who becomes a head coach Ian Rappaport reports others report that, that B.A. was going to retire in February anyways, and he wanted to hand the team off to Todd Bowles when they were good. Tom Brady's back, a lot of star players are back, as opposed to handing the team off in flux to Todd Bowles. The internet immediately said, nah, nah, nah. Tom Brady came out of retirement and told the Glazer family, if B.A. ain't there, I'll think about coming back. You obviously know a lot of the people in that building.

You're friends with a lot of the people in that building. And you know the coaching circles better than any of us talking. What are your thoughts on the whole situation? And how do you think it played out? Yeah, I think this was a perfect storm, you know know for for ba and the bucks i mean like when he left arizona a lot of those guys you know were with him there and when he retired from there you know it kind of left a lot of guys hanging a little bit you know guys had to go elsewhere todd had his job already already in new york but this opportunity was okay number one i get the

band back together back in Tampa. The goal was obviously win a Super Bowl, did that. He's got, you know, his right-hand man and Todd Bowles sitting there coaching, waiting. And obviously they've done such a great job there that, you know, the Glazer family, Jason Light, the whole group was on board for saying, yeah's just we're going to run it back but he can walk away from the game healthy congrats to B.A. and all that he's done

for the National Football League to him and his family be able to walk away on your own terms healthy, has a Super Bowl ring going into the Ring of Honor congratulations dad on the Ring of Honor there in Tampa. And probably a Hall of Fame coach.

I mean, there's a lot of guys that can, you know, argue one way or another, but I sure think that. And so this was a perfect storm. And, you know, he gets to, you know, Todd jumps into that seat as head coach there, and none of those families, all those guys there, every one of those guys on that staff, I mean, like Todd went on and on about B.A. and as a father figure, as a mentor, a role model, the human being we all know B.A. to be. And every one of those guys on that staff feel the same way. Everybody in that locker room feels that way.

I'm glad he's still going to have, you know, a role there. What capacity that is, I don't know, still going to have, you know, a role there. What capacity that is, I don't know, but it'll be great for him to kind of transition and ease his self off the sidelines, so to speak. So again, congratulations to BA. You know, our time together in Indy was awesome. We all know the story and what he did and leaving the light on all that stuff. And they left the light on for Tom. Tom came back. That relationship is rock solid. You know, the narrative out there, you can believe what you want to believe.

Tone, you know, the guys that want to throw gas on the fire and get this thing stoked up one way or another. I don't believe that. One bet. Hey, Chuck, do you think this is something that we may see other coaches try to do in the future when they really want to promote somebody from within but they know that might not happen if they would just walk away at a normal time or something where this just odd timing seemed to everything works out?

Like, could we see – like, what if Andy Reid tries to do this someday with Bien-Ami or something? Yeah, I think, you know, with the Rooney rule and all the rules now, as far as this was just a unique, unique situation. And if you read closer with the Rooney rule, I think there's a March 1st deal I read on PFT about, you know, staffs are set, you know, there won't be anything happen until the following season, until the next season's over and the next, you know, hiring cycle comes around.

So I think this was a unique situation, one that obviously benefited the Bucs, benefited everybody on that staff. None of those coaches, you know, have to move, have to pick up because, you know, B.A. decided, you know, it was time to shut it down. So pretty unique. Where things go moving forward, A.J BA decided, you know, it was time to shut it down. So pretty unique. Where things go moving forward, AJ, I don't know. You know, as far as the hiring processes go and Rooney rules, this, that, and the other, whatever.

So I think it's pretty unique. And, yeah, if Andy Reid wants to shut it down and elevate and give Eric, you know Eric an opportunity, then great. Okay, so let's follow up there because whenever you said if Andy Reid is looking to shut it down, it didn't appear as if B.A. was looking to shut it down, right? I mean, we talked to him, and he talked about building that team is like his favorite thing to do. Do you think, honestly, do you think that when Tom came back and they had a pretty good team, like a lightning or a light? yeah bulb bulb a bulb go you think a bulb went

off out of nowhere and he was like okay now's the time to handle like how do you think he got to that decision because it didn't seem like that's where he was right because we all assumed whenever everybody was an unrestricted free agent they were were potentially gone. Okay, they're going to just do a whole new coaching staff here. Those OGs, you know, Tom Moore down there, Clyde Christensen down there. Todd Bowles has been around a long time. He can get a job anywhere. We just assumed they were going to kind of drift off. So when they all signed back up,

I think they had an inkling that Tom might come back. But also, you heard them all say everything like, we want to build this team, we want to build this team. What do you think happened in that whole decision-making process? I think just that. He was going to stay around just long enough to make sure that all the ducks were in a row. They got, you know, Tom came back. They were able to sign, like you said, those players back to contract extensions.

Because there was a lot in flux, you know, heading into the combine. You know, owners' meetings, out of that, I saw the same juice, the same passion, the same energy, you know, joking around about Tom coming back and, you know, not having to go out and figure out, you know, who's going to be our QB1. So it was just a perfect storm. And I mean, him and Jason Light and the Glazer family got together. There was a lot of candidates probably on that staff, Todd being, you know, first and foremost, maybe the most logical choice. But, you know, Byron's going to be a job.

But he'll get a job and be a head coach here shortly. But I just think, you know, he set it up. And, again, the stars aligned just perfectly. So you don't think Tom pushed him out? You know, for this to happen, you know, and it was, you know, B.A.'s done it all. I mean, the league is in such a much better place because of, you know, B.A. We agree.

Than when B.A. joined the National Football League. You know, his stance on diversity, inclusion, you know, all that stuff and what he's done down there and as progressive as he's been and, you know, hiring, you know, you know, practices and things like that. when it comes to that. And he's done all that he could do. He's taken care of his family, his family outside of his family. That's that whole staff, that whole crew down there. Many of us. I mean, there's so many of us that, you know,

have benefited because of Bruce Arians and him being in the National Football League and him being the dude that he is. So I think this was just something that, you know, okay, check this box, check this box, check this box, check this box. Everybody's good. I'm good. I'm blessed. I have my health.

I have my family. I have my grandkids. You know, just like you said with Jake, Jake's 40. Holy hell. You're kidding me, right? He's not 40, is he? He's 40 already? Okay. So he's got grandkids now

uh his his health like i said so this was just perfect timing okay so i'm not even gonna broach the subject that i was gonna ask you about with tom brady potentially saying i'll come back if he's gone you don't believe that at. That is the immediate response from the internet, by the way. Immediately. No. No way. Absolutely no way. Connor has a question for you, by the way. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Chuck, there's definitely a way, but I digress. Have you ever seen an

offseason like this where these top-tier guys like Devontae, Tyreek Hill, Russell Wilson are getting moved? We saw it with Peyton once and then, you know, Stafford and Brady more recently. But all-in-one offseason, is this kind of something that you think is going to become more common, especially if those guys have success? Yeah, I think so. I mean, you just look at Les Snead and McVay and what they did at the Rams

and, you know, trading all picks away, going all in. I mean mean these teams figure out okay we're very close Denver I mean when when Russell uh got traded to the Broncos from Seattle I think we're like holy crap and then we wake up the next day then it's Adams then it's this guy that's that guy and it's just one you know domino after another but I I just think you know there's a window of opportunity for players for coaches for organizations and I think these people that that figure out that that window can close very very fast we've got to be proactive

we've got to get in the game somehow some way and give ourselves the best opportunity to jump through this window and win ourselves a Super Bowl because at the end of the day that's really the only thing that matters. And yeah, it's nice. These guys, you know, I never thought I'd ever see, you know, wide receivers making 30, you know, million, 30 million a year. And granted, you know, Tyreek has earned it. Devontae certainly has earned it.

They've gone out. They've played. They've been there for their teams. I mean, they're absolute studs. They're aliens. But yeah, I mean, the players absolute studs. They're aliens. But, yeah, I mean, the players moving around, the coaches moving around. I mean, it's just wild.

But I think it's just the tip of the iceberg. All right. Well, Chuck, we appreciate you stopping by today and giving us your insight into something that you know much more about than us. The Internet's going to run with their conspiracies. I'm excited to watch B.A. hit that golf course and, you know, maybe drown a couple clubs or two. Then go do the consulting role, which why aren't you doing that? Consulting role is the best role.

Hey, we're just going to pay you for some opinions. We might not use them. It might not work. You get your money either way. That's a brilliant plan. I really enjoy my current role, my current job, you know, and I'm hoping to get back for 2022, to be honest with you. I've had enough of the football.

Hanging out with you boys has been a blessing. Oh, you're definitely back. I'm just praying to God that I get asked back to do another gig, maybe in 2022. I don't know. Maybe consultant. I'll do anything, Pat. You know that.

Well, Chuck, listen. Hey, I'm going to be with B.A. next week, by the way. We're going to Pebble Beach. It's called the Players' Cup. Jim Lyons, you know Jimmy Lyons, Mr. Donut Dude there in Indianapolis. Him and his family, they're sponsoring four foursomes out in Pebble. So we got three days of golf out there. I'm sure there'll be some of those fancy cigars. Did you see's got his own cigar now hey no risk no biscuit huh and the good life

is good man i can't wait to smoke one of those be with va and and and toast him on on just an amazing amazing uh career and what he's done what he he's accomplished. Sorry to cut you off, Chuck. When did you guys schedule this trip? Oh, okay. I love A.J. Boyd. He just never misses an opportunity. This trip has been on the books for over two years. So I definitely don't think it was the golf trip that was okay. Chuck, how do you feel? You forced me into retirement.

If I'm coaching, I can't do the Pebble Beach deal. And if I just retire all of a sudden and, yeah, I can do Pebble. Yeah, so I'm going to shut her down. Pebble Beach is way more important. No, it's been on the books for quite some time. We played in it together last year. Okay, all right. So he's still able to coach and play in that.

Listen, let's not add any more conspiracy theories. Enjoy that. Smoke some of those cigars. Don't, you know, their vitamins out there are strong, Chuck. Remember that. We don't need you floating above a cart. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Chuck Pagano. Yeah, Chuck!

See you, guys. Perfect. He is back. And now we got the boys in Indianapolis are back, I believe, Tony and Ty. How you doing? How you doing? Hey, great to see you guys. Sorry about it.

I wish you guys were here. Well, I mean, especially since I couldn't defend myself, Chuck, throw me on a bus. Jesus. Yeah, you said you were kind of spinning it a little bit there. Do you listen to that and do you change your opinions at all, Tony? Because I know you're not normally like that type of person, but did you just listen to a pretty good explanation and wean that way or no?

Yeah, as far as the hierarchy goes, Chuck's above me, so I have fully changed my opinion. How about you, Connor? Same thing that you did with Fauci. Absolutely not. Well, I don't think we don't have to worry about Fauci anymore. I mean, Pfizer, I mean. What does that mean? Absolutely not. We don't have to worry about Fauci anymore. Pfizer, I mean.

What does that mean? That's Powell's thing, so I don't want to go into it. What? You threw yourself right in the deep end there. What happened? There's some things happening with the Oscars, my friend. What?

It was sponsored by Pfizer, if I'm mistaken pfizer has an alopecia drug coming up come on gump i mean this isn't meme time okay hey that's facts my friend check it out if you get some time dive down that wormhole man how do you know it was sponsored by pfizer did they say that did you not want i mean the commercials that popped up were very, I mean, it was. I mean, I never keep it on ever. Don't act like you don't know, AJ. You know all of this. I do not.

I honestly don't. You know I'm not deep into all of it. You are. I come to you guys to learn about this. Yeah, okay. So, like, that's not true at all. You start conversations for us all to hear it, and I think you watch me learn about a lot of things,

which is a joy for you, I think, in this entire thing. But you know how like sports books were in every single sports event commercial, like back to back to back to back? Pfizer has gotten like that with a couple different things where it's become like, the Pfizer is like a very high, high level commercial, very impressive.

And I'm like damn okay if i was getting in the commercial game i did not know this was something that was commercially you know potentially pushable yeah but it was it is i guess it is in america and i think america that's like the laws america is one of the only places where you can advertise drugs other countries don't let them do that interesting you know why it's not a conspiracy it's a thing that's because of that one that got everybody what was that one just had a documentary on it was bad bad bad we killed a lot of our friends uh the percocet the dope the bad one the bad one the oxycon oh there it is and change everything right because they got uh some sort of approval where they were able to market it for pain ty i think you know more

than i you might have seen the same documentaries they changed a lot of those rules didn't they yeah for sure and it was it had to do something with uh the yeah the way it was being marketed and then also i believe like they said it wasn't addictive yeah they outright fibbed about how addictive it was and then they were telling like the doctors like hey if it doesn't work all you need to do is prescribe more and and yeah they they were basically they doctors, like, hey, if it doesn't work, all you need to do is prescribe more. And, yeah, they were basically, they ended up finding out, like, oh, this is all bullshit. Yeah.

It's big pharma, baby. Yeah, they got shut down a couple years ago. Hey, by the way, that Oxycontin son of a bitch is taking, like, friends from all of us, I think. You know what I mean? Like, that is something that's very real. And made a shit ton of money doing it. But the Pfizer commercials have popped up and showed up,

and it's like, oh, okay, Pfizer's doing commercials now. That awesome and Gumpy you know Gumpy you gonna try it no no no I just I don't have alopecia what are you talking about what is alopecia oh it's hair loss can't grow hair yeah Shazier has it okay so that's just your whole... You just lose hair? Is that born or... Do you remember Charlie Villanueva? Yes. He suffered from alopecia, so he had no eyebrows. Are you born with this or can you grow in this? And this is an over-the-counter drug from Pfizer that takes care of this?

Yes, sir. Really? Over-the-counter? Think of a prescription. That's not... So it's different. Okay. So he Think of a prescription. That's not. So it's different. Okay. So he's from Canada.

So it's different. Free healthcare. Yes. Is that what it will stop the alopecia from happening or it will reverse it, I wonder? I have not dealt with this, but. What if Shazier gets it? What if Shazier is all the way back? Float.

Man, medicine is interesting, but I mean, the fact that Bubba Gumpino has certainly alluded to the fact that all of that happened to potentially move some alopecia medicine is quite an interesting part of this program. Are you shocked? It just came out that Chris Rock did not do any material in his first stand-up since that. He said he's still processing the whole situation. He didn't do any material on it. Well, they went to the gold party. Remember what did he? And they said, we're going to handle this whole thing.

And part of that conversation was, come on, we know you're going on tour. We can't have you talking about this as well. What's the well for? Chris Rock's brother, Tony Rock, took to Twitter and said, don't believe everything you read. They didn't get along? I'm just saying.

Because I saw Will. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Oh, yeah, Will was having a good time. I'm not sure we saw any pictures or videos of Chris having a good time afterwards. All right. Anyways, the conspiracy fodder will always live on, and let's assume Pfizer is going to make money regardless. Yep.

Which is not cool, by the way. Don't love the fact that Big Pharma is just going to go on forever and ever, but it does feel like that is the case. Hopefully vitamins get legalized everywhere. Let's go to the hashtag PMSC Geek Jerry World Mania. Every question that is asked, we will send $500 to your cash tag. This one goes to Ty Conlon. Tyler here.

Good guy. Hashtag PMSC Ge, Jerry World, Mania Official, AJ Hawk, Pat McAfee Show. For AJ, who are some of the most underrated defenders you've played with that don't get the shine or credit you think they deserve? I don't think Al Harris gets nearly enough credit for what he did in the league, says Ty Conlon.

AJ, your thoughts? Al Harris is one guy that definitely pops into my head. He was a practice squad player I think he was drafted by Tampa Then he went to the Eagles Worked his way up, became a stud Came to Green Bay for I think 7-8 years Played with me, he was an awesome teammate

Stud, locked down corner, did not want to play any zone He would be mad If you called zone I was like nope, I got this dude He wants to lock people up One of the most fun teammates I've ever been a part of. I still remember walking in day one with Al. This was before COVID.

Al was big on fist bumps back in 06. Hey, what's up, dog? He'd just give you a fist bump, and he had some cool sayings too. Speed on before you peed on. He had some cool shirts he'd make up too. Hey, that's called cat coverage, right? I got that cat right there. Everybody else can figure this whole thing out.

Is there any players that you watch that you're like by the way i wish i could meet him sounds like an absolute legend of a man any players coaching hold on real quick to cut you off he's coaching for the cowboys actually he's down there you might run into oh and jerry wow yeah i might be able to get a suite and just watch him coach every single day of practice remember because those are open to the public which i don't think think should be. I'm going to look into that. Can I talk to some people around here about some potential worries I have about the program? Anybody you watch play on the field, you're like, holy shit, that dude's different than everybody else out here?

I mean, yeah, there's plenty of people I watch. You mean like watching now, current day? No, back in the day. Oh, man. I mean, so many different people. When you're playing against guys, you realize how different certain like O-linemen are. You know, Rayola, the center for the Lions, I talk about him a lot.

I have talked about him on here before. Hell yeah, Foxy. Hell yeah. He was not fun to play against because the dude was scrappy. He was gritty. He may hit you through the whistle, but I always loved and respected him. He was a passionate dude. He's a guy I think didn't get enough credit because he wasn't really big,

but he's one of those centers that was always on you. He'll be 25 yards downfield chasing me when I'm chasing the ball carrier. He embodied Detroit. Is he like Darren McCarty? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Foxy's yelling into him. Darren McCarty, I guess, called me out. I haven't seen him.

I've just seen tweets about him. What? Fourth-time Stanley Cup champion. For what? I think because I say the facts. The Red Wings stink, dude. Okay. Sorry about it, stink, dude. Okay. Sorry about it, DMACC.

Like I said, you're a Pittsburgh guy, so you got to say what you got to say, but he's a four-time champ, so he wants you. Yeah, well, they haven't really been good since DMACC hung up. So, DMACC, why don't you – Hey, lace him back up, DMACC. How much do you love the team? He was a part of the greatest fight in hockey history, actually. I think he started it.

Which one is that? I don't know if DMACC wants me right now. I'm in WrestleMania shape. Two weeks after that. What fight? Who did he fight? It was against the Colorado Avalanche. He won? It was Claude Lemieux.

Claude Lemieux, huh? It was Claude Lemieux. Claude Lemieux turtled like a chicken shit rat that he was. Whoa. Holy shit. I don't know, Claude. Geez, is he related to Mario? No, no relation.

That's when hockey was good. Oh, yeah. Hey, DMACC, we miss you on the ice, pal, alright? Why don't you go play for the Pens? A real fucking program. Let's go to our next question. Hashtag PMS SeatGeekJerryWorldMania. This one comes from Austin

Finley. Out of Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen, who wins the Super Bowl first? Who wins the most? Okay, this is a nice little two-timer here. I like Josh Allen a lot. Joe Burrow, unbelievable. Lamar Jackson, that Baltimore Ravens squad has already won

a playoff game. This last year was just all discombobulated with COVID and injuries, and that just seemed to be a cluster fuck all year for Baltimore. Don't think we can judge it there. And Herbert and that Chargers to be a clusterfuck all year for Baltimore. Don't think we can judge it there. And Herbert and that Chargers team, another year with Staley. Who's going to go on a run? I mean, this is the next generation of quarterbacks in the NFL,

and wow, the NFL has to be excited about it, AJ. Yeah, I mean, the easy answer here, don't you think, Josh Allen, probably to win the first Super Bowl out of these four, and also probably the most if you look at it. I mean, Joe Burrow and what the Bengals are doing, I mean, I give them credit what they did to their O-line and what Joe can do. You can't count him out. But, I mean, Herbert's – man, I don't know. Lamar, too.

Like, all these guys are studs, but I still think Josh Allen does it first. I think the team around him is set up best. If you heard me about to answer the question, I realized exactly what you did. Yeah, I realized mid answer oh yeah there's okay yeah me too yeah I was like Josh Allen obviously the right answer and then right above him this guy's already played in a fucking Super Bowl and then right next to him is Lamar Jackson who's the one of one

and then Justin Herbert if that Chargers team can figure it out which we don't know why or how they end up losing games so tightly two years in a row another year in the system Staley they might get going too. The AFC is a young, tough, absolute, fully loaded bitch to deal with. And, I mean, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burr are in the same goddamn division.

And, obviously, there's now Deshaun. And when you look at Herbert, he's with Mahomes. He's with Derek Carr, who's got Devontae now. I think it's Josh Allen just because the Patriots and the Dolphins aren't as good 2-3 in their division compared to the other guys. Hey, Tone, riddle me this. How come everybody takes shots at Tua? This morning I'm on Get Up, and that was a good transition by you

talking about the AFC East. This morning on Get Up, Chris Long was asked about Devontae Adams leaving. I was asked on how I think Aaron feels, and I haven't talked to Aaron since it happened, so I just make up a lie. And that was like 19 minutes after I woke up, so I wasn't in there, but I just had to make up an answer. And I just assume that Aaron's not excited

that the best wide receiver in the game is no longer a teammate of his. I'm not 100% sure, but he might have known it was happening, allegedly, whatever. And then they asked Chris Long was on get-up. By the way, Chris Long, very good. We are big fans of Chris Long on microphones around here. I'm happy he's getting on get-up. And I hope that's a more regular thing because we watch that show every morning.

He goes, Devontae Adams to the Raiders, definitely a lot better than Tyreek Hill to Miami. I mean, Tyreek doesn't have a guy who can throw him the ball. Devontae Adams has Derek Carr. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What the fuck did Tua just take a shot? We don't even talk about Tua. We're talking about Devontae Adams. And all of a sudden, Tua takes a shot. Why is

everybody against Tua on these internet football streets, Diggs? I think it's easy, and I think it's popular, and I think part of the reason is because, you know, he was drafted right in between Burrow and then Herbert. Herbert, thank you. And then I also think that the Miami Dolphins did not do him any favors

by making him a relief pitcher, you know, coming in for Jacoby when he was, you know, not healthy enough to start, but healthy enough to come in and play at the end of the game. And things like that happened um with Fitzpatrick and stuff like I think his own organization has set this up for him where he's kind of an easy target now. Gumpy, gumpy, gumpy, the self-sabotage what what is going everybody hates Tua right now how how's Tua gonna hold up I mean Chris Long talked about the Las Vegas Raiders Devontae Adams and then then, boom! This guy can't even play quarterback. And I respect Chris Long

a lot. Multi-time Super Bowl champion. Been there, done that. Grew up in an NFL family. Does that scare you a little bit? I appreciate you taking the stand on get-up this morning, Pat. Tua just, like I said, he hasn't had the team around him. You can say whatever you want, but they never

gave him a chance. Like, this year, I't had the team around him. You can say whatever you want, but they never gave him a chance. Like this year, I think judge him after this year. If you don't like how he plays this year, go ahead. But up until now, he hasn't been surrounded by his team. And he like he's never really had a chance. This is his year to prove that he is a good quarterback in the NFL. And I'm not saying this is like to his injury prone. But if he does like the only worry, I I think is that they have an unbelievable roster now.

But if he gets injured again and misses four, five games, is he going to fall into that like Jimmy G? Oh, this guy stinks, yeah. Well, even the Jimmy G category where it's like, hey, yeah, when you're playing, you're great, but you've been hurt every single year. AJ, do you remember them fucking saying that he had nothing wrong with his ribs? Oh, yeah. Of course.

Why? Why did that happen? I don't know. I have no idea. That was like wrong with his ribs? Oh, yeah. Of course. Why? Why did that happen? I don't know. I have no idea. That seemed planned to Barry Dua. That seemed. That was the thing coming in on Dua, though. Is he sturdy enough to hold up a 17-game regular season NFL schedule?

Coming out, he was coming off the hip, right? He had his labrum shaved down or he had something going on there. He was rehabbing. So, yeah, he needs to hopefully stay in the lineup the whole season and play well. And then I think you can kind of have an accurate assessment of what you think he may be. Hey, go on, Tua. Come on now, Tua. You talk about Ursa being so involved, Pat.

Like, that's the issue with the Dolphins. Steven Ross isn't even fucking there half the time. He's got no idea what's going on, huh? No clue. What about J-Lo and Marc Anthony? Yeah, it's true. And who else? Usher, I think.

Wasn't Usher? Serena? Isn't Serena part of it? No, Ross has a good yacht, though. It's got to be tough to be around the team when you can just go as long as you can. You don't have the coach come to you, talk over game plan strategy on the yacht. Jim Irsay's got a yacht, I assume, right? Don't you think?

Past. No, maybe not. Maybe he just rents it so it's not always available. Beach house? Because if a's not always available beach house because if a yacht is always available i feel like they probably make the decision to head to the yacht has a spa on it then it goes to overlook the the greek lease that thing out get a little kickback on your investment yeah charters yeah run that thing a little bit like a horse steven ross ain't doing it he's on the thing all day every day he doesn't care about the dolphins you guys are

pulling two with two minutes left when he seems like he's playing good to make him look bad and have somebody else come in and save him. Awesome. You're announcing Tua as a starter out of nowhere and not telling the starter that was actually on a pretty good run who's beloved by basically everybody. You're not telling him first. And are you going to tell that guy to not go out publicly and say like

he's incredibly depressed and heartbroken and pissed off about it? Are you doing that? No, you're not going to do any of that stuff? Try to say PR or think about Tua's mental headspace at all? No. Okay, cool. Yeah, my boat's leaving right now. All right, sweet.

Do it. Knock it out. And by the way, let the head coach know I'll give him $100,000 for every loss. I mean, that is what people are alleging now, right? That is what's being alleged about down there. And instead now Mike – and you're saying judge him after this year? This is his first year in this offensive system. This is a first-year head coach.

Who knows what Mike McDaniel knows and what he doesn't know? I mean, there he is. I'm not saying you can – you never really know exactly, but at least we're going to get a good look at him. I agree. If Tua is only able to play like half the season, then it's going to be tough. Then we're going to be doing the same thing next offseason probably. Go ahead, Dom. If you bash him after this year i could at least understand it if he plays a

full year and it doesn't go well i could understand the hate but up until now there's no reason to say that he is not an nfl quarterback or a good one and he's super cool too i talked about him playing his ukulele this morning which i've seen him actually play after getting surgery and stuff ukulele this morning which i've seen them actually play after getting surgery and stuff let tua live let's go to another question shall we hear on the hashtag pms c geek jerry world mania this one comes from sean bomb rl that's sean bomb in real life really yeah hashtag pms c geek jerry world mania how much will cost jerry jones in repairs after pat punts that douchebag. Austin Theory's head through the roof. Hell yeah.

I don't know if they got that jumbotron higher. I know they had to raise that thing, you know, because the NFL punters were bashing it in. And with that being said, I think high school punters would have been able to bash it in whenever it was at the original level that it was at. They didn't think about that as they were putting this multi-billion dollar beautiful piece of art together

that is called Jerry World. So they lift that thing up a little bit higher. NFL guys can still get it, but you gotta go for it. It's not really natural to hit that in a game punt, but it is a 100-yard jumbotron

that's in 8K right over the field. So whenever I'm standing in that ring and I take his little head and I punt it, I'm trying to put that thing off the side of the jumbotron. That's a good question. By Sean Baum in real life, dude.

Goddamn right. Yeah, right. Have you ran into him down there yet? What are you talking about? No, he ain't running into me. What are you talking about? Is there a chance he doesn't show up? I mean, maybe.

Is SmackDown there at Jerry World? No. It's at the arena. Oh, okay. Have you legitimately considered like hey what's what if i kill this guy on sunday night yeah i've had to come to grips with that you know i'm but don't push me you know i believe can you be charged for that or because it's in a ring you're good no no sign we signed paper i went through it i went i reread the contract after the fears

of potentially killing a man and i noticed that I am not at fault. You sign those things away, whatever happens there, especially with all the stuff he's been doing. Yeah. You know what I mean? Running away. Justified killing, is that what you're saying? No, no, it's not justified.

It's just if it happens, it happens. Sanctioned. Part of the game. Thank you. Yeah, it's part of it, dude. The sanctioned event. A quick pivot. Have you thought about looking at any of these uh

these seized yachts you can maybe get a good price on one of them from these russian oligarchs they stealing them from is that happening right now they're available oh yeah oh they've taken them they've taken multiple down yeah is that so that stuff's still going down i'm pretty serious oh yeah yeah i guess yeah is it getting real serious yeah it's still very serious i mean when it first started i think the general during the state of the union was told like hey this might be four or six weeks a lot of us were like no way it's looking like it might be you know four or six months at the moment oh man hope everybody's okay teasing peace everybody it sounds like that is not the case but no so

there's like a market like i can go like ebay like get a new tv yeah where is are these pocket listings or yeah? I'm just wondering. Yeah, I'm wondering what you do with them because it's not cheap to let it let them be parked somewhere obviously Yeah, but he's paying for the person that got on the lake man put one on the lake That'd be sweet. It'll block your whole yard. You could hang out in your backyard naked. No one will see you That'd be sweet. Who's got a yacht? That'd be sweet. Who's got a yacht in a lake?

All right. That's called a got. Damn mistake. Oh, yeah. Because the water's not deep enough for those types of things, but I wouldn't mind going out yachting. Yeah, I'll do it by one minute. Yeah. Is that happening?

I'll keep my eyes open, see if any pop up. I'll gift you one. Why don't you get one? Oh, yeah, on that estate. You can fit it. You can have it on yours. I don't have any water. You built a pond.

How about is Chelsea still not allowed to sell tickets or anything like that? That was the team, right? Chelsea or Liverpool? Yeah, Chelsea. Chelsea. Are they still allowed to buy? Oh, fuck. Yeah.

Or in pod two in the fucking World Cup. United States. Yeah! But they lost. No, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Didn't have to win. I saw a picture of them celebrating with beers.

You lost 2-0. No, no. We got in the World Cup. The purpose of the tournament, the purpose of the games was to get into the World Cup so you could win the soccer Lombardi. After losing last night, it doesn't matter. Hey, bigger picture.

We're going to zoom out. We're professionals. We're adults. So the qualifying is stupid. Qualifying means nothing? No, no. It's aggregate scoring and it's points. We're being such a mark, dude.

Yeah, you don't understand. You don't get it, okay? You're right. Going into that game, we knew we had to lose by less than five to make it into the World Cup. So the boys gave up two. No big deal. How you doing? Keep it moving. We're going to win your soccer Lomb cup so the boys gave up two no big deal how you doing keep

it moving we're gonna win your soccer lombardi we're in pod two which is a two seating basically in the group the group is going to be the group of death because guess what we're fucking in it pal so there's gonna be some bad teams in there we're gonna run you're gonna have to beat the best anyways you're gonna have to beat the guys that play for barcelona okay you're gonna have to beat the guys that have been training their entire lives all year round. No other sports to potentially be interested in that are awesome like American football. The Barthelona players, the Portland Timber players, the PSG players, the Real Madrid. You go down the list of all these big names over in Europe because the only sport that exists is soccer. Over here, we got these young boys that have grown up in their systems.

They've gotten a chance to learn behind enemy lines. They've gotten a chance to see what it's like in the enemy's camp. And now they're bringing back the soccer Lombardi to the United States of fucking America. Hell yeah! And that's why they're drinking beers, A.J. Hall. Because they know they're taking the next step to that soccer Lombardi. And they're going to hold that thing. They're going to kiss it.

They're going to walk it around. Okay? Over in the beautiful country of where? Qatar. Qatar. Okay, that's good. So, honestly, who are the biggest challengers for the U.S.? Like, who's going to give them the problem?

So, the enemy is always within your own camp. Yes. Right. So, if we play our best, it's nameless gray faces. Self-doubt. That's a big enemy. Self-doubt. You've got to overcome that.

Yeah, you need a good confidence. You've got to keep your ego in check. Yeah, these boys need to keep their attitudes and their egos in check. They need to – basically, that's it. Other than that, I don't see anybody keeping up with us. We're a bunch of runners. We've got a fast squad. We've got a fast team.

That's why I like Spain. They're going to be tough to deal with. Belgium, they're going see anybody keeping up with us. We're a bunch of runners. We got a fast squad. We got a fast team. That's why I like Spain. They're going to be tough to deal with. Belgium, they're going to be tough to deal with. But aside from that, it doesn't really matter. I don't think you did that right. What do you mean, Spain? The people we don't have to worry about, just real quick, I'll say Italy. Boom.

Yeah. Eat it. Canada might end up in our group. They might be like a pod four. Who cares They made it to the World Cup First in the CONCACAF My friend

So since Qatar is the home country They are automatically pod 1, ranked 1 So we could potentially have like Qatar, United States of America Some team that's like Meh, from somewhere else And then Canada in our group And that would be United States of America, some team that's like, meh, from somewhere else, and then Canada in our group.

And that would be how you do it. We're fucking laughing. But then we move on to play some studs after that, I would assume. Well, then we get excited. Then the whole world's excited. Like, oh shit, the United States are playing. And that's when the boys show up in those moments that need to happen. It's obviously group play to a freaking round of 16, Hawk.k i mean wake up one time watching sports

then after around 16 obviously there's a lead eight yeah and then they're frozen for boom and then when does this start you know don't play come on aj wednesday i'd say for two and a half years i've asked you and you know one's giving me an answer on when it starts bro november well it's every four years dude what do Well, didn't COVID derail that? Yes. It's normally in the summer, but it's too hot then. Are we pronouncing it wrong? First time ever it's in the fall, winter,

which would be cool because the NFL is the same time. You're going to miss a lot of those games, I think. But when the United States is playing for the soccer Lombardi, I'm going to be dialed of those games, I think. But when the United States is playing for the soccer Lombardi, I'm going to be dialed in. Yeah, and they know because when the United States plays, they can't play on a Monday, a Thursday, or a Sunday. They got four other days. Saturday, too, though.

I mean, Saturday, college football is pretty big. True. Well, figure it out. I mean, the times are going to be all fucked up anyways. Will they schedule it around the United States schedule? I think they better. They should. I think the last time a game

will be at probably 3 p.m., maybe noon. Okay, that's perfect for us. Yeah. When's the first one? Games at 9, noon and 3, I believe. Perfect. Okay.

We got soccer Lombardi in the day, American football at night. That's going to be a glorious time. And then at Thanksgiving, we're all going to be saying, hey, give me the fucking stuff and it's much better than everything else around here. Give me the ham. Give me the turkey. I want the leg, not the dry ass white

meat. And then I want to let everybody know, I'm thankful that the United States are winning this. My friend, I wish you would not have said that because for all my lads here, it is National Tater Day. Yeah! So I was thinking, in the spirit of our brothership and our kinship, maybe we do a little Irish jig to celebrate.

Today? Yeah. I don't have my kilt. If I have my kilt on. Come on. Come on, lads. I don't have my kilt. Face each other.

Come on. Come on, lads. If I have my kilt, I don't. I wouldn't disrespect Aaron. What's happening? Are we doing it? What happened there? Was this something?

What's going on? I have no idea. I was trying to jig with my lads. Connor's just not being a good sport. Who was that tap dancing crew? Riverdance, dude. That's what you were trying to do there? Yeah.

I thought you nailed it. Connor, I at least held my hands up for Wiz Khalifa and clapped. Yeah, so did I. I also sang. I mean, what are we doing? AJ, you did not. Why don't you dance a jig? AJ, you wouldn't put your goddamn hands up.

With this being said, did you know that the Riverdancers were coming? No, I didn't. No, I didn't know the Riverdancers were coming. If I did, I would have brought my shoes and my kilt. Nick, by the way, pretty good. Traditional Irish folk dancing. What are you guys? Well, you didn't say sláinte or anything.

No. No, lads. Yeah, but that's all of them. That's English, and we hate the English. I mean, you know that. You're Irish. Do you have french fries, at least? It's national tatered.

I thought there was mashed potatoes coming out, right? Me too. They're called chips. But instead, we got to dance. Tone, how did you feel about that? What just happened there from... I thought it was disgusting how Connor did not stand up for his culture and also represent it.

Thank you, Tyrone. Ty, please. Yeah, it was pretty disgusting, Connor. I mean, is Kilt a predominantly Irish thing? I thought that was very Scottish. I got a lot of Scottish in me as well. And if you guys were to see the amount of space I have behind me, I don't think I physically could have been able to get out of my chair.

So you're a fat Irish stooge. No, no, no, no. The room, the placement, the chair. But it's okay. But you didn't even let the – you had zero – now, I was standing and I did not join in. So I don't know if I'm being judged. I was staring at the succulents.

Yeah. Maybe you're at the succulents. Yeah. Maybe you're Italian. That's right. Where's the Faygo drinks at? Okay. Please. Where are the Faygo sodas? All right.

I think that's going to be a show today. Hammer Downs in about 15 minutes. I want to check the time there. I felt like we'd only gone for 20 minutes I want to check the time there. I felt like we'd only gone for 20 minutes here, literally, the whole day. I kind of got lost in the sauce over here. I'm pretty excited about everything going on, AJ. Hell yeah.

You should be. Do you have stuff the rest of the day? Do you have to go work on your program? I've got to go do some more cardio. I've got to finish up the cardio here these last couple of days. And then I think there's something cool coming out tonight I think I'm a part of. I think. Maybe. I'm not sure. I don't know if i was even supposed to say that i don't

know what's what's you know known by people and what's not and that's kind of the issue something coming out tonight that you're a part of so you already filmed it no no no and i'm not sure if that's happening or not okay we watch it all right aj yeah you guys will be able to see it i think okay all right you guys will all be able to see it I think ok alright you guys will all be able to see it we'll make sure everybody sees it ok

I think it's happening in the night I'm not so sure on the clock no no no you'll see on the internet on the internet

on the internet I think text me so I know no no I don't want to do that because people probably cracked into our phones

you know yeah especially in Jerry World I think I'm meeting like a cool cool cool cool cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool group of people. They're cool. Ah, here we go. Okay. It's going to be cool.

All right. Hammer Down's at 4... 315. Jeez Louise. It's Hammer Down, boys. They're good gamblers. Hey, good gamblers. By the way, Gabe.

Good gamblers. Hey, are we sending Raging Redhead and Gabe Morenci to Ontario to put a $20,000 bet in which they can keep if they just have to agree on it? And it has to be something that, you know, yeah. Are we doing that or not? I have to. Sounds like a good idea. I don't know the schematics of it, but it sounds like a good idea. Yeah.

Can I just ship a suitcase up to Canada with 20 grand in it? Do they keep the winnings, though? Yeah. Canada loves when you do that. I think Maranci has PayPal. PayPal. You've gone too far. What?

Investor yesterday. That was the end of it. Canada loves PayPal. Canada hammers PayPal. A couple good gamblers loves PayPal. Canada hovers PayPal. A couple good gamblers on PayPal. Great gamblers. We'll send the money in. PayPal.

You say Belgium again, Connor? Yeah, what was that? Baltham? No, that's a G, I think. I think it's a G, not a C. And I don't know if you said Spain right either. Spain? Bartholona, though, is a C. And I don't know if you said Spain right either. Spain? Barcelona, though, is a team that we're going to have to really look out for

because they produce absolute killers. They do. Cristiano Ronaldo in Portugal made it, right? Yeah. I seen that. He put that in Portuguese and had to translate it. It's always so impressive how good the translator is on Instagram and stuff like that. Really good.

Very, very good. It's like the Google translator, I guess. Yeah, in a second, too. I feel like I can read it how nice would that have been during like foreign language classes back in the day don't need it oh i was bad at that i'm good at speaking english nah not really i guess actually the other languages were tough for me to pick up i can't get it i can't do it i wish i could sign language is the only one i really picked up on well you know happens out there but i can't the phone. I wish I could. Sign language is the only one I really picked up on. Well, you know, shit happens out there, but I can't. The phone just takes out everything. You know sign language is different in Spanish?

Huh? That's why it's called American Sign Language. Really? Well, the other night I saw the CODA. We were actually talking about this last night. I seen the CODA acceptance of an award in CODA. If that stands for something i thought it was the way they talked about it but it was the deaf and the uh this the movie they

they basically brought the deaf community and the fully hearing community together won a bunch of awards they did something like this and it was a full sentence i'm like holy shit they their language is so much better than ours it It does stand for something, Pat. What does it stand for? Child of Deaf Adult. Okay. I thought so. That's the way they were speaking about it, basically, is getting to work with the Dakota community

or something like that. I forget what it was. Their language is awesome. They'll do a couple of things, and then the translator that was speaking to the people had to read four sentences. They were taking a breath. It's like's like holy hell they seem to be much better at speaking than all of us there's that clip at the waka flaka concert and they had a translator there for sign language and she's like dancing and everything it's like one of the greatest clips i've seen so i don't want to you know i don't want to give too much away about my live

shows but if you if we do a live show there's a good chance there will be a sign language interpreter on the side of the stage i've been doing this literally since my first stage or my first show is electrifying gotta get a good one though gotta get a good one because the first show that i did i was told the day before hey you have at least one deaf um customer at tomorrow's show or whatever. And I'm like, what's that mean? They're like, so you have to hire a translator. It's like a code or whatever.

I'm like, sweet. Where do I find one? And they had like two available, basically. They're like, here you go. So I got this like 90-year-old lady. She was a translator. And she said she watched some of my stuff to like see what she was getting into. And she brought in her husband.

And they were both like like we laughed all night and then the husband was like i can't wait to see what you say tonight or something like i'm like okay they kind of gave me the pass there and i you know it was it was a great time they are they're such efficient communicators it feels like so much is going on i feel like we're learning a lot about it but other than that i can't learn another language to speak i'm'm fucking too dumb. I am way too dumb. But the Google and I guess Instagram is no problem. I've never actually used the translate on Instagram or Google. Yeah, it's because you're never

on there. Yeah. You know, that's the thing. You're a coach. Yeah, you have no idea about the world. Okay. Yeah, maybe not. Little Ohio bubble. I'm a bad person. Yeah, you call me. Are you saying we're bad gamblers? Because we've seen Okay, yeah, maybe not. Little Ohio bubble. I'm a bad person, yeah. Yeah, you call him... Are you saying we're bad gamblers because we've seen translated tweets and stuff?

Oh, you piece of shit. No, I'm shocked that you would actually take the time to click the translate part. And actually, if it's in another language, for me, it just means keep moving. We're an asshole. Jeez. Like, if Ronaldo has something and he posts it in Portuguese, I'm going to scroll down and see where is it in English

no yeah but sometimes it doesn't happen and also don't you think you want to know what he's saying to his people like I feel like if it's somebody that I truly care about what they're saying

no that's not what you just said that ain't for me I'm out of here geez learn a little bit that's what the social media and making the world a smaller place you learn about each other

come on yeah alright grazie alright grazie we're going to get out of here boys back in Indianapolis you crushed it Social media and making the world a smaller place. You learn about each other. Come on. Yeah. All right. Grazie. All right. Grazie. We're going to get out of here. Boys back in Indianapolis, you crushed it. Can't wait to watch Hammered Don.

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