The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 643 - Happy Easter, Stephon Gilmore Is Officially An Indianapolis Colt, Ian Rapoport, TJ Lang, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 15, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about this weekend's Easter festivities, Stephon Gilmore officially signing a 2 year deal with the Indianapolis Colts, Kyler Murray allegedly informing the Cardinals that he will not play this year unless he gets a new contract, and all the different smoke screens we're hearing from teams about who they might be picking in the NFL Draft. Joining the progrum to chat about the Stephon Gilmore situation, if we'll see any Baker Mayfield movement anytime soon, and when we can expect the rest of these free agents to sign (56:01-1:17:48). Later, 10 year NFL veteran on the offensive line, Super Bowl Champion, 2x Pro Bowler, former Green Bay Packer and Detroit Lion, TJ Lang joins Pat and AJ Hawk to chat about offensive lineman coming into the draft this year and whether or not every NFL lineman has perfect technique, his thoughts on what the Lions are doing in Detroit with both the Lions and the Red Wings, how his golf game is as of late, and much more (1:17:50-1:43:21). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is feel good Friday, April 15th, 2022. This sports show begins now. Can't thank you enough for joining us here. I hope you had a fantastic evening last night and I hope you enjoyed the hell out of Super Positive Thursday. Today kicks off what Super Bowl weekend for the Christians. Absolutely. This is the biggest weekend for the super Christian, the Christians. Well, and also, you know, a lot of closet Christians coming out this weekend. It's one of the big, big ones you got to show up for. Oh, you got to show your face at church just in case. Exactly. This is the right thing whenever you die. So happy, happy Easter weekend – happy Super Bowl weekend.

And this is a sports show, and we will definitely dive into that because the Colts are being saved. Gilly Lock's coming to town. We will talk about that in a second. But we have to cover a couple quick questions here about Easter. So Good Friday today. Correct. At Ty Schmidt went to Catholic high school. Yes, I did, and Catholic grade school.

Okay, so Good Friday today. Right. Jesus died today. Yes, at about 3 p. And Catholic grade school. Okay. So Good Friday today. Right. Jesus died today. Yes. At about 3 p.m. today. Why is it a Good Friday then? It's a good question. You know, I don't know.

We got a lot of good stuff. We did. I didn't do that intentionally. But we, I like don't have school on Good Friday. You know, so it, they do, they do talk about that a lot. Like, although it is Good Friday, you know, nothing great happens today. So is this like bad branding of the whole thing, or is it because it's a good branding? Is it because they took him off the cross and finally put him to bury?

Yeah, but they didn't bury him, right? They put him in a tomb in a cave. Right, and he also suffered quite a bit because I believe he was crucified around 9 a.m. and didn't die until about 3 p.m. on the cross. Yeah, 317 or something like that, right? Yeah, why? Jesus until about 3 p.m. on the cross. Yeah, 317 or something like that, right? Yeah, it was a long day for Jesus Christ. And then three days later, Connor, on the third day at Boston Corner, he moved the boulder from in front of the cave and said, what's up, bitches? That's right. I'm back. And that's Easter. That's Easter. And every Easter, there is a thought that maybe Jesus moves the boulder again and comes back. Yeah, and he's easter that's easter and every easter there is a thought that maybe jesus moves the boulder again and comes back yeah and he's there in spirit you know for the easter

vigil easter vigil to like the saturday night saturday night is typically the longest mass of like the church calendar some places like it'll be a three-hour service so that's the one they gotta show face at or is the sunday one at noon you can get by with going on sunday but you better wear pastel colors. If you show up not wearing Easter colors, people are going to be like, oh, this asshole, he has no idea what's going on. All right, so all of the people out there

that are meh, cringe, you know what I mean? I guess Saturday night's not the one they have to go to. Saturday night's the ones that the diehards go to. Bingo. The ones that are definitely going to heaven if they are right about religion and what happens after death. The Saturday night one,

that is the diehards. They've been preparing and planning for Saturday night's events. For sure. Probably going to bring their palms from Palm Sunday. Really? What the hell is a Palm Sunday? Palm Sunday is what the Sunday before Good Friday? It was last Sunday. Palm Sunday is what the Sunday before Good Friday?

Yeah, exactly. P.S. I'll be honest with you. I love you. I do not remember what Palm Sunday significance is. He went to Catholic grade school and Catholic high school. Yes, all I remember about Palm Sunday was, hey, make sure you get your palms.

Grab your palms. That's really all I remember about Palm Sunday. Happy Easter well, happy Easter weekend. Happy Easter, everybody. It was his entry to Jerusalem. There you go. Oh, that was whenever they were bringing him in to kill him? Basically, yeah. Kill him. So Palm Sunday is whenever they're bringing him into the arena. Slumhouse. Then Good Friday, 9am

is when it started. The Italians. Well, the one. Punches Pilate. Thanks a lot, pal. And then 317, he dies. Then Sunday, he comes out of his tomb. Why did they not bury him? Have we talked about that? Why he hasn't buried him?

No, we have not. I think Nick hit the nail on the head on that one. What's that? Oh, come on. They put him in the tomb. They considered that a burial back in the day. But I think the tomb was more reserved for people of higher stature. But they didn't think he was higher stature, right's why they killed him his his people jesus's followers

that was away from oh so his people took him off the cross and said we're gonna put him up in our own tomb over here that's right so they carried him as well yes okay so they carry dead jesus oh oh go ahead so they did it so he no one steal his body. So that was his people, yes. So they take his body off the cross, carry it to their cave. Then they put a boulder behind it. Why did they put a boulder behind it? So nobody could get to it. Yeah, seal it.

The Italians couldn't get him anymore. Yeah, the Italians. Sad bitches. Stop saying the Italians. Well, what? Who killed him? Who killed him? Romans.

Romans were made up of many peoples. A lot of them were German as well. Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Where's Rome? Read a history book, gentlemen. I did.

Where is Rome? Rome is in Italy, but I guess back in the day. His name was Fazoli. Roman Empire. A little bit more vast. Yeah, it was everywhere. Anyway, the Italians killed Jesus, all right? And then he moves the boulder, comes out, I'm back.

That is what Easter is. Bingo. How long does he live whenever he's back? Because he goes back and tells everybody he's back, right? And then how long before he goes? And then on his way out, does he say, hey, I'm coming back? I don't know if he says, I'm coming back. I know there's like the people didn't believe it was him,

but he had the stigmata marks on his hands and his feet so they're like holy shit this really is Jesus. But I don't know how long that was. I don't think that was that long. I think it was 40 days. Yeah. No. That's Lent to Easter. Yeah. But he made a couple stops. Talked to some people like hey build a church

here. Build a church there. But if I do recall it's not that long. I don't think it's that long. No. 13 days maybe or something like that. I don't know. I think I've asked this question before. Maybe longer than there. But if I do recall, it's not that long. I don't think he was back that long. No. 13 days maybe or something like that. I don't know. I think I've asked this question before. Maybe longer than that. But how come everybody just assumes he's coming back then just because he did that one time?

Because I know this weekend is a big he's coming back. He has risen. He is risen. It was 40 days allegedly. After? Yes. So 40 days from Lent to Easter, Zeta feels good. Zete.

No, I was just saying that. Yep. Okay. Atta baby, Zete. Atta baby, Zete. So 40 days. No, I was just saying that. Yep. Okay. Atta baby Z. Atta baby Z. So 40 days. That's not that long, I guess, if you come back to life there. Well, happy Easter, everybody.

Happy Easter. Search for your eggs. That's a cool photo, too. Search for your eggs, yeah. Me and my homies. The Last Supper, was that before he got? Before he died, yeah. That was yesterday.

So he wasn't 100% sure that he was coming back because he called the Last Supper before he died, right? That, and he wanted to be like, hey, Judas, I fucking know it was you. I know it was you, buddy. No, but Judas was the one that said that he's been saying all that shit? Judas was the one who, yeah, betrayed him and basically gave him up to the Romans. It's also fucked up in the photo they took together. He has a knife in his hand.

Who, Judas? In the Last Supper. Wow, that's crazy. Is he cutting food or? No, he has it on his back. Symbolism. A little foreshadow. Because it was a supper. Oh, that was a foreshadow. knife in his hand who judas in the last supper wow it's crazy is he cutting food or oh yes oh that was a foreshadow they could have been eating steaks though well the artist might have taken some yeah because the picture itself never got correctly you know transferred into the so jesus didn't know he was coming back it sounds like though because he had that last supper he

could have just said hey tomorrow's just another day i'll see you guys on sunday or do you think it was like he was building up the gimmick a little bit more like hey this is that last supper. He could have just said, hey, tomorrow's just another day. I'll see you guys on Sunday. Or do you think he was building up the gimmick a little bit more? Like, hey, this is the last supper we're going to have. Let's make sure we get a photo here. And then when he comes back Sunday, he's like, I'm Tom Brady. I was retired. I'm fucking back. Just a couple of days later.

It's like a nice reminder. Like, hey, I am that dude. OK? If you thought I was gone, I am not. Do you think maybe when he died at 3 17 but and he was that dude he goes up to uh god or his father or mother i guess but i don't know it's a bit of mother because he dropped his seed into mary yeah that's right and joe and was a virgin she said she was a virgin so a lot of questions around that. Joe had incredible trust and faith. You do?

Shout out to Joe, dude. Shout out to Joe. So you think whenever he was on the cross, he goes up, and then he goes, I'm going to need you to go back down on Sunday or whatever. Do you think he didn't know the plan? Do you think Jesus had the plan all along? I think Jesus knew the plan. And what's the Last Supper all about then?

I think it was kind of like you fake your own death and go to your own funeral So you can hear everybody tell All the cool stuff about you So that's what the last supper was He wanted to hear What the boys had to say Hey guys This might be it What do you like about me? Paul, what do you got?

Yeah Peter Judas Go ahead and spill it Yeah You fucking prick Son of a bitch You asshole

I know you're gonna kill me Put the knife down We're fucking eating lettuce And porridge What did they eat back then? Oh, breaking bread Breaking bread Oh, because it's blood Fish No, you're going to kill me. Put the knife down. We're fucking eating lettuce and porridge. What did they eat back then? Oh, breaking bread. Oh, because it's blood.

Fish. Turned to wine, right? That whole thing. That was at Last Supper? No. That was the wedding of Galilee. The wedding of Galilee? It was a good event, huh?

That's when he took the blood to wine thing? Well, they were like, hey, we got no booze. And Jesus was like, oh, really? Boom. Yeah, we do. And then a lot of barrels of wine. Really? He was blowing a 1? Boom. Yeah, we do. And then a lot of barrels of wine. Really? Mm-hmm. He was blowing a 1.0.

Oh, yeah. He was slapping the bag. His blood was wine. Yeah. That's why everybody drinks it at the thing. And slaps the bag. No, you don't slap the bag at the church thing, remember? Oh, no. We just did it for Ty's wedding.

It didn't happen at all. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Okay. There was no bag slapping. That was like the most Catholic church of all time. Not Catholic. What was it?

Episcopalian? Yeah, but what was that church there? It was like George Washington. It was like, it's one of the oldest churches in America. Yeah, so that church has seen some things. Oh, yeah. And they have been praising there for a long time. Long time.

It was an honor to be in there, to be honest. Pretty cool. I mean, George Washington used to go there. Was he in the pew that you were in way up there? Yeah. Who was an honor to be in there, to be honest. Pretty cool. I mean, George Washington, you know, used to go there. Was he in the pew that you were in way up there? Yeah. Who was in the pew we were in, you think?

I was in a good pew in the back. I was like in the perfect. John Adams, I heard. Yeah, John Adams. Quincy. Quincy. John Franklin.

All right, let's get to some sports. Happy Easter. Happy Easter. Happy we can figure that out. I still got a lot of questions. Sure. But I don't know if you're necessarily the guy that needs to be taking it.

And I don't know if this show needs to be the place where it's at. Should we get a pre-stop? But I do try to, see? It's not bad. They all have a completely different version of it, though, than like a pastor. Yeah, sure. And then, you know, it's very interesting. I'm happy these things happen, though, because everybody's coming together.

Then the Easter Bunny came along and said, even if you don't, we can still have a good time. That's right. You know, just like the whole Santa thing. Hey, come on. Let's go ahead and do this. Let's celebrate it. This is bigger than Jesus' birthday, though, for the Christian folks, right? Oh, yeah.

This is biggest weekend of the year. For sure. All right. Congratulations. Have a great one. Hope everybody enjoys the hell out of it. Hope the weather is fantastic. You know how the weather is in Indianapolis right now?

Oh. Fucking great. Oh, yeah. Stephon Gilmore, officially an Indianapolis Colt and I know Jesus came out of a cave in a couple days from now

alright I understand that but Stephon Gilmore arriving in a 757 yesterday that Jim Irsay sent to pick him up we knew there was no way he was getting out

of that building without signing a deal with the Indianapolis Colts Jim Irsay is a fucking closer and although the Colts have been very quiet and very slow and monotonous and patient

through this entire free agency period, because we do have some holes on our particular roster that is about ready to go on a Super Bowl run in a very difficult AFC. Getting a lockdown corner who, by all accounts of people that watch his films, say he's still got it. Signing him to a two-year, $23 million deal with $14 million guaranteed. How you doing? Keep it moving. Welcome to Indianapolis, Gilly Law. How you doing? Jocena Anderson was on this first, I believe. Gilly texted her and let her know that he is officially signing with the Colts. I'd like to know the questions that were asked

and why it took a day and a half, Gilly. Okay. I hope you enjoyed the hell out of everything. Or maybe they're just taking it slow like they have all free agency period. But this makes our team immediately better. You can plug in place. And that defense is stacked. Because not only do you have DeForest Buckner down on the defensive line, who's an all-pro. Darius Leonard, who's an all-pro.

Kenny Moore, who's an all-pro, who's up. His contract, I believe, is up in 2023, I think. Soon. It's up soon. He put out a big... He's pro-bowler, all-pro. You got nothing. Julian Blackman coming back off of injury. Absolute stud. And then on the... Yannick Ngakwe just got

traded for on the other side. Quiddy Paye was a rookie last year. That team is ready to go, it feels like, defensively. Offensively, we just don't have any weapons. So I assume all eyes on the draft for weapons, even though Jarvis Landry's out there. Welcome to Indy Gillilock.

You make us better. I'm excited about it. Sorry about it, Patriots. You guys are fucking dead. I'm not worried about that. I mean, you guys have to worry about the Titans, but, I mean, this is the perfect answer for, you know, Bob Woods and A.J. Bryan on that side of the ball. So, I mean, this is a great trade for the Colts.

This is probably, what, the best team Matt Ryan's ever had? It's not a trade. It's a sign. Sign, excuse me. I still think he's on New England, but whatever. But seriously, this is probably Matt Ryan's best team. Although you lack a few weapons, best running back he's ever had, best on the line he's ever had. If he can just game manage, manage which gets buried but in a good

way like if he can just game manage every game and just let the defense kind of lock it down they'll be fine balls hand the ball off manage the game let's not spring both of our ankles on one play nope let's not throw a left-handed fadeaway pick six in the end zone right it's a division rival you know there's things like that that if he gets in there and does well matt ryan's got to be pumped about this yeah there's an entire list it was a tweet of all the things that the uh colts have done via zach keifer who writes for the athletic i think formerly of indie star good writer good guy trade for quarterback matt ryan how you don't keep it moving yanni king gawkway we lose, though. They bring it back in. Mo Alley-Cox, college basketball player,

absolute monster of a man. Tight end. I think Matt Ryan will enjoy him. Zaire Franklin, Taequann Lewis, Matt Pryor, Brandon Fess. Fess. Fess. Fess. Fess.

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I think it's fast son. Fast son. Signed him, though. Yep. Got him. Good sign. He's a fucking good player. Yeah.

Rodney McLeod of the Eagles, Armani Watts, Brandon King, and Stephon Gilmore. A lot of moves getting made. Haven't really addressed the glaring issue of weapons on the offense that has been there for two years, but I like the fact that we're getting better. At-Tone Diggs, one half of the hammer. Dad! Cowboys. Gilly Lock's a game-changer, Tone.

Gilly Lock is an absolute game-changer. He's a champion in that game. You need to know this because with Rocky Sin gone, I mean, I didn't know. I don't know the other starting corner's name. I just looked it up. I still don't know who he is. So I'm just saying the corner was in a position of need,

and you got that check. Now in the first round of the draft, you could get a wide receiver. That'll be good. Do you think they say don't let the guy out of the building? You think he slept over last night? Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Because they've got a good facility over there now. Maybe they had him sleep in the indoor.

So, hey, this is what it feels like. Check it out. Played chants from Colts fans at games. Yeah. You know, then sometimes. And then they let him relax. Very loud against the bats. A lot of stabbing, man.

Very, very loud. That stadium can get loud. But also, it's pretty comfortable. Yeah. If the game is kind of just, you know just back and forth, kind of trading jabs, it does get a little bit of a white noise in the background. But then whenever it needs to be loud, it's loud. Maybe he slept there.

Maybe he stayed the night. Maybe he slept at Jim Irsay's house. Maybe there was a full concert for him. He walked around the museum that Jim Irsay has purchased. He probably seen the Beatles there last night. Fucking ZZ Top was playing and Jim Ursae was like

hey Gilly Lock I understand Robert Kraft was a good guy. Gay probably. Who knows actually. We don't know. Maybe.

Maybe a good guy. He helps. But is there anybody. I'll give you this whole wing dude. Fuck that. I got a house down

here. You can just live here. Come lock it down. The fact that he sent the plane for a corner I think is a massive compliment i don't know if that's normal i'd assume gilly lock appreciated and respected it what a player though

now let's talk to another team that has an interesting situation heating up in the contract front you remember when eric burkhardt the agent for kyler murray took to twitter and said let me lay out why kyler murray deserves a payday right the fuck now. And then Kyler Murray took all of his Arizona Cardinals photos off of his Instagram. So we're like, whoa, social media is telling us not only Kyler, but his representation. They're wanting the money right now. It's our money and we want it now. They saw what Aaron signed for.

They saw what Russell Wilson signed. They saw what Matthew Stafford signed for. They saw what Russell Wilson signed. They saw what Matthew Stafford signed for. They saw what Deshaun Watson signed for. They saw what all these quarterbacks signed for. And Kyler Murray and his representation were like, what were the Cardinals before we got here? Fucking trash. Yeah, stunk. They had Rosen as their quarterback. Yikes. That's who they thought was going to be their guy. No offense to Josh Rosen, other than the fact that it appears if you are not a good NFL quarterback. Bad at football.

Now, you might have been able to figure good at football would be better than you. Absolutely. And your friends. It was good in college. Didn't work out in the NFL. Every game. Seemed like. He said, every year we've got here, we've won more games, 11 games,

and we're in the toughest conference, made the playoffs. What are we doing? Let's go ahead and get this deal done. And Kyler said he's not too worried about his future with the Cardinals so I think he's gotten back into putting Cardinals stuff back on his Instagram we assume that that has been kind of like you know relaxed situation then Tom Pellicero is tweeting it out again and other people are starting to tweet it out again and it's like oh so Burkhart or somebody's trying to make this a conversation piece because they were hoping for a contract extension before the draft.

Now we're 13 days away from the draft spectacular. What is going to happen in Arizona? Who knows? But if he signs, then Joey Burrow, right? Yeah. Him and his people got to be like, well, I mean, we want the fucking Super Bowl. So you need to pay me now. Lamar Jackson's just sitting back watching all of this thinking, hey, more contracts, the better.

I guess that's his entire motive in this thing. But this is interesting. If they pay him this early, other quarterbacks who have any sense of success at all in their rookie contracts are going to say, no more. We would like $30 million, $40 million a year, just like everybody else is getting. Well, I saw someone said, too, that they should call his bluff because of Carson Wentz and Jared Goff.

But both those guys got paid and then and then teams traded for their contracts like can the Cardinals do anything they're kind of hamstrung like you can't let Kyler go I mean and he if he says he's not going to play unless he gets a new contract is there even anything they can do they have to pay him I don't think I read that properly or right did Kyler say he won't play without a contract or did his agent say that's what palisaro was reporting it doesn't say that specifically in the tweet but multiple other people have basically quoted him saying murray's not playing this year if he doesn't get a new contract so fascinating good business i guess for kyler a very very good business for kyler i hope

everybody makes a bazillion dollars but it's to see the ripple effect will be fantastic as well because the Cardinals know that if they pay him, just like how Bishotti was talking about Haslam and them over in Cleveland giving the deal that they gave, and then Katie Taylor at the Bengals was also talking about that. The Cardinals know if they pay Kyler while he's still in his rookie contract, although he has another year left and he has had success, that's immediately all eyes now go to every other young quarterback

that has any success in their first two years. And it's like, all right, you can no longer get quarterbacks on a rookie contract. You can no longer use these guys for cheap pay so you can pay everybody else, even though they're the most important position on any team and we all know it. So I don't know what's going to happen.

I don't know how it's going to play out. If he's not going to play, they are kind of fucked, I think, unless they got Colt McCoy over there. Yeah. And with Russ leaving the division. Maybe Cliff Kingsbury was slinging around. Their window to go is right now. Yeah.

And they got a team. Yeah. And they just bring back A.J. Green yesterday on a one-year deal. Congrats to A.J. Congrats to the Cardinals making that happen. But the ripple effect on if they sign Kyler will be a fascinating one for sure. Well, and we don't know the exact details, but you've got to assume because of Deshaun's fully guaranteed, that's probably what he's asking for too.

And how many guys going into their fourth year is like this is kind of the period where they get paid like Josh Allen going into his fourth year. I think Mahomes going into his fourth year. That's kind of when they get these massive contracts especially if they have success because you can get that fifth year option uh figured out them the way it's gone down has been so fascinating especially because it's now starting to heat back up would you say i was just trying to look i was looking that up connor's point right there uh it's happened to six quarterbacks in the last 10 years who have got paid after their third season.

It was Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, and Ryan Taylor. Oh, so this is status quo. So he's not asking for anything unprecedented at all. No. For whatever reason, I think Kyler's younger than he actually is, I guess. Do you think he saw what happened with Baker, who Baker going into his fourth year then ends up getting hurt

and plays through it, and now his stock is basically zero. And he took the Browns to the playoffs too. Yeah, has Kyler won a playoff game? No. I don't think so. No, last year was his first year in the playoffs. And they lost. I think all those other guys did.

Yeah. He also didn't want to go in the game. Yeah, but Tannehill. No, he did, right? You know how he got paid by the Dolphins or something? But that was like $90 million or something. I forget what the number was. Yeah, it was like $88 or something.

I remember I put a tweet out about it because I actually said if Tannehill was getting, I think it was like $90 million from the Dolphins, like Andrew Luck is going to get like 10% of the Colts. Because at that point, we had already gone to the AFC Championship. We had already done it again. We've already, like he got paid before Luck did almost. And I was like, boom. I got yelled at, obviously, for putting that tweet up because I was talking about contracts or something like that.

I was like, that was a joke. Sorry. That was a joke, clearly. And by the way, if somebody's using my tweet as leverage against you as a business person, like, you probably shouldn't fucking be in the position you're in. And guess what? They probably are still going to do exactly do exactly what i said oh and by the way they did they did but anyways it was a good tweet you could have said that so i'll let you go back good tweet is what you said okay thank you get off my ass but yeah taney hill got paid like nine it wasn't like it is now it's like that was probably when i in the because the tweet was in the last

10 years that was probably 10 years ago or whatever. When Daniel got that. Yeah. And I don't think he got like a, maybe he did. Cause my reaction was like, if that's what he's getting, this is what luck's going to have to get.

So I guess it was a lot of money at the time, but now it's like the salary cap percentages that everybody's expecting. And I mean, Kyler, what are the chances they lose Kyler? If he doesn't get a deal? Sounds like pretty high. Yeah.

He deleted it all from his Instagram. His agent went public and said, hey, this is how this is all going to go. Now, they have backed off of that, it seemed like, until this point. But it feels like Kyler's a guy that will say, yeah, fuck you. All right, I will actually do this for the sake of business. By the way, I will not judge him because business is business. However, you got to do what you got to do do people have been paid in the past but i'm interested i'm very very interested to see how it goes yeah and obviously like you know i don't know him on a

personal level but you just look at like the way he kind of interacts with people in his body language like he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who's just gonna like pony up and go play because they said no like he seems like he's yeah exactly he's got other shit he can be doing to him phase clan and like he could very easily just be. He's got other shit he can be doing to him. FaZe Clan. He could very easily just be like, okay, well, if you're not going to pay me, then fuck you guys. I'm not going to play.

I'll just go make money on the internet. Or I think I could still swing a bet. They're giving up guaranteed money over there. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to make $150 million with the A's. You guys were not great before I got here. Don't forget that. Please.

Now, I know it's Cliff Kingsbury. I know you made a lot of other signings as well. Nuke has been great. But the team as a whole has taken much needed steps into getting to where you want to go. The ownership will say, well, we started investing in players. We started going all in more. Cliff Kingsbury's offense, much more suited for the current NFL than maybe the previous one. They can have all their excuses. But Kyler, the most important position on the field, quarterback, has all the leverage in the world at this point go ahead so like i know it's a business but should teammates ever be jaded by like a decision like this no no no never never never that's like a thing okay working out with jj watts though yeah he's working out still he's doing his whole thing but like nobody ever okay like hey it's you don't pocket watch right that's like a big thing don't pocket watch which i've learned doesn't happen in other professions like people pocket watch all the time i guess because it sets that whole thing yeah but pocket watching although you should know what everybody else is getting

paid is whenever you feel a certain type of way about what somebody else is getting first what you're getting and you let it get in the way of like your personal friendship like that's not on either of you that's on the person that's paying the money and you for figuring that whole thing out so i feel like the nfl has a pretty good culture about that, I think. Now, other teams' players get paid. Then there's a lot of, like, that motherfucker got what? And then, like, boom, boom, boom. But within the team, I don't think you'll ever hear a player come out and be like,

oh, this is incredibly selfish of him to do this because it's just we're all trying to make as much money as possible in this thing because we all very much understand this is a business you know and if you realize where a lot of guys come from like if you were to get upset about a guy looking to get more money or try to get the money that he thinks he's worth or that he is actually worth and you'd like know where it comes from and like what he's been through it's hard to be like oh hey man fucking you know like go on and sell for the rest of us yeah i guess it did happen uh that's what greg jennings was saying was happening yeah yeah yeah but i doubt it by the way because that is like a long-standing nfl like code almost like same deal he's the only one who's

saying that you don't hear any other former teammates of rogers coming out and saying anything like that yeah it's kind of a shot because i do believe like even the nflpa would get uh involved if people were saying, hey, just remember we're happy for our teammates when they get paid money. You know what I mean? This is what this whole thing is, which is very accurate. So maybe personally, inside, they will be like, hey, Kyler, fucking show up to work. But you'll never hear anybody publicly say it because it's all about, hey, we got to get our money.

How we got to get our money. Speaking of money, Roger Goodell is expecting $200 million to go to Detroit. Whoa. Draft next year in Detroit, Michigan. How'd they get the draft? Did they have to bid on it? Did they have to pay for it? Did they have to put together a presentation?

None of us know. But Commissioner Goodell expects the economic impact of the draft to be around $200 million for the city of Detroit, reported by Danny Danny Rogers at DannyRogers underscore underscore. I believe two of them there at the end. A lot of Danny Rogers with IEs before this particular Danny Rogers was able to get the Twitter handle. I wonder if that's from previous amount that like Nashville got and Cleveland got, even though it was in the middle of a COVID or whatever. Nashville got and Cleveland got,

even though it was in the middle of a COVID or whatever, or if this is them just talking about, you know, cash in pockets that they've experienced before, projected cash in revenue to the businesses around where the draft is, or if they're talking like advertising money as well. Yeah. You know, like for the city of Detroit and like for the things around Detroit, like $200 million value, like what does that mean?

What exactly is that just straight cash in the community? Or does it mean all the other shit that's coming with it? I always thought it was straight cash in the community. I think that's what they want you to think. Yeah. And I think that now, strictly because you said for the advertising. But if they show the city, that'll take away from Detroit. Right.

Yeah. I'm wondering. That'd be a negative. Tony. Tony. That'd be a a negative. There's a couple great parks. I mean, what's Greek time? Greek time. Mom's Spaghetti.

Mom's Spaghetti. Mom's Spaghetti right there in the 313. What's that road they do parade dance? Woodward. That's probably where the draft will be, right? I would assume so. And that's where the Tigers have their stadium there? Yeah.

Beautiful park. And then I think everything's all downtown. Dude, I haven't been downtown Detroit in like five years. What's that? My entire life. Well, I live here now, and we work very hard here. What? Yeah, a lot of time.

Just go back to Detroit and watch your teams lose. How did Detroit get this in the first place? Did they not have to pay to get the draft in the first place? So Roger Goodell then- Is this 200 million net or gross yeah that's how it works right it's a bid super bowl is a big time like bid they put together entire committees i remember the uh when indianapolis got it they tried to get it again there's an entire committee that has to present and do why and how and how much it would cost and i think like that whole thing and what they pay for and what they wouldn't pay i think i don't know all the ins and outs of it because I have never been in a meeting,

but I do remember meeting a couple of people around town who felt very good about themselves because they were a part of the Super Bowl pitch committee. Oh, nice. They were riding around in Indianapolis Motor Speedway pace cars and showing up with blazers on. And then I was getting introduced. Oh, this is blah, blah, blah.

He's not only a member of the indianapolis motor speedway blah blah blah but he's also a member of the super bowl committee selection committee trying to get super bowl back to indianapolis i'm thanks for your service did you have boots on the fucking ground out there they wanted me to treat him as if he was like a navy seal yeah i'm like thank you Thank you for your service, bro. I appreciate that. It was great for Indianapolis. The Combine, great for Indianapolis. The Super Bowl, great for Indianapolis. The Patriots lose

and the amount of business that came to Indianapolis was incredible. The draft in Nashville, I have no idea what the full economic fallout was that, but I would assume that was fucking great for Nashville. I don't know about Cleveland because I think the weather was terrible and where it was set up and COVID

was happening, so I don't know if it was that great. Well, I think Cleveland would say, yeah, we get so fucking unlucky. We get the draft. It's supposed to be this big spectacle and the weather's terrible and it's in the middle of COVID when nobody's allowed to be anywhere. The weather's going to be everything for Detroit. If it's nice out, it'll be great, but if not, it's

going to stink. There's a chance it's not going to be great, though. Oh, big time. April could snow. All right. We'll talk to TJ Lang in the third hour today. We'll ask him his thoughts on a draft coming to town and $200 million valuation coming to the city. Because maybe I'll clean that place up a little bit. Might even to wheel all the players out and like the nicest Ford GTs they got.

And then, you know, Jerry Jones sees one. He's like, you know what? Give me that fucking thing. There's $270,000. Yeah. Easy. Jerry Jones sees one, he's like, you know what, give me that fucking thing right now. There's $270,000 in town. Easy. There's another one. Boom. Remember when Indomitian Sioux was driving around in that sweet Chrysler, that commercial they had?

No, I don't. Was that Tiny Little One? No, it was the big boy. And it was an Eminem song, right? It was like the most Detroit thing ever. Super Bowl commercial. Was Kid Rock riding around with him? I think it was Shotgun, song right playing it was like the most oh yes yes yes Super Bowl commercial was Kid Rock riding around with him I think it was Shotgun

yeah how about the guy from Kiss Gene yeah Gene Simmons was there how about Miguel Cabrera

White Boy Rick was in the trunk White Boy Rick was in jail still he got pretty Tim Allen oh Tim Allen he had all the energy

right moving weight yeah exactly Chrysler 300 White Boy Rick and Tim Allen. Those two move snow, dude. We ain't talking about plows.

Uh-uh. We are talking moving weight. Remember when the Chrysler 300 was basically a Bentley? Yeah, that's how it was being sold there. Now it's a Genesis. The Genesis thing is the Bentley. Yes. Yeah, that's how it was being sold there.

Now it's at Genesis. The Genesis thing is the Bentley. I guess the Genesis people, I guess that's a family of Kia. And Genesis is the super luxury vehicle of Asia. Okay. Oh. It is like the... The Hortitoity. I don't know if it's Bentley or...

But like Mercedes. It's like the Mercedes. The Tesla. I think so, yeah. It's what I was told when I was looking at one of them because I saw a commercial. I'm like, that looks like a really fucking nice car. And I saw the price tag on it.

I'm like, I guess it's a nice car. And then when I looked at it, I was like, very nice car. Save Tiger. Very, very nice car. It's a beautiful, they're fucking very, very nice. They have all, and by the way, somebody that owned a Bentley, that was the worst car I've ever owned in my life.

Think and move, though. That was fucking the worst. What's that? I ever owned think you move though the worst what's that i said the thing could move though yeah but couldn't stop it was a train that thing and then it's just everything about it was shit you remember that foxy yeah we rode around in that a lot here's like here because it was the only car we had in florida yeah air conditioner just broke out of nowhere it's like how does this happen that was the worst one yeah it was 145 degrees in Florida. We're sitting in that car. Then this is going to sound so petty, but it's real. You put it into reverse.

You know how in F-150, you put it in reverse? Nowadays, any car posts, what, 1999 probably? Sure. There's a camera that pops up. You put it in reverse. That's a three-second wait for that camera to pop up. And then, boom, it in reverse. That's a three-second wait for that camera to pop up. And then, boom, it's up. It's like, how does my F-150 have, like, 10x the amount of more convenient shit in the car than this fucking Bentley? I couldn't wait to sell that thing.

I got rid of that as quick as possible. Terrible deal. Got ripped off. If I could take it. Off my hands. But it's nowhere near worth as much as you're paying for this thing. But that Genesis car was super nice. I remember that.

And the Chrysler 300, you're right. People were rolling that. Oh, yeah. They were big. That's how you know you're a man of the people. This Bentley, very nice luxury vehicle. Fuck that. Give me the F-150.

That's real. That was very real. I was so sick of that thing. I would have left that on the side of a highway if I could. Z and I actually had to take it to figure it out for the air conditioning. And they gave us not even like a rental car. Yeah. Fucking Uber out of here.

Let's get to a break. Audie's giving us a guy. What the hell? Smart car gives you a ride home. Granted. I mean, I had a mustache. It was me and Zito. Like, we did look like we just stole the fucking Bentley.

But yeah, I look like that in there, too. It was a smooth ride, though, because that thing was probably 10 million pounds oh yeah yeah you had to be careful too you know driving down those back roads because if you go too fast you're going to bottom out and you know you're raising up by the way this day however i think titanic went down today oh oh that's right i saw it on the internet. Yeah, same day Fenway Park opened. Thank you. Jackie Robinson day. Jackie Robinson. Hey, shout out to Jackie Robinson.

Thank you, Jackie. What about the mental toughness of Jackie Robinson? Weapon. Just the amount of terrible things that were probably said to him throughout his entire life, and he just kept on, yeah, but I'm fucking better at baseball than you are. Yeah. The amount of mental toughness. Insanity.

I watched an E60 on him this week, actually. It was very eye-opening. About the world? Like how, like mental toughness, his mental toughness, insanity. I watched an E60 on him this week, actually. It was very eye-opening. About the world? Like how, like mental toughness, his mental toughness. Like going from the Army to baseball. Like it was, he's a great guy. Yeah. Happy Jackie Robinson day.

Happy Jackie Robinson day. All right, we're back in four minutes with some phone calls on the 5RNG phone line. I think we hit all the news. Yeah. Yeah. There's a couple more things we'll chat about. Nine referees have retired this offseason in the NFL.

Yikes. That is a sneaky big thing. Because remember the replacement refs, the entire holdout, the old... Who could forget? Seattle Seahawks. Is that scumbag gone? Tony Carrente? Yeah. I do believe he's gone. Good riddance.

See, we just kind of pissed on his grave there. He had good years. Well, see, we just kind of pissed on his grave there. He had good years. This is just like Walt Anderson. Like, Walt Anderson had good years. But once he got into, like, his 50th year of reffing in the NFL, he might have lost it a little bit. Yeah, it happens.

Like, Corenti, you know, he might have got a little bit too big for his britches. He never had a fastball. Like, 40 years in. I think he did, though. I think Corenti had a fastball at one point. I think he was good. I think he was probably endearing to people and charming the way he acted. But then he got, you know, I'm he did, though. I think he had a fastball at one point. I think he was good. I think he was probably endearing to people and charming the way he acted. But then he got, you know, I'm bigger than the game.

That probably happened 35 years into his NFL reffing career when he couldn't run anymore. When everybody was definitely faster than him and they just kept recycling the same refs because there was no pipeline of younger refs that were anywhere near worth a fuck. So now all those refs that are retiring, nine of them, there's some good refs that are retiring, nine of them, there's some good

refs that are retiring, by the way, that we don't know about because they're not the ones speaking into the camera. They might be a back judge or side judge or something like that. This is going to be a big story next year at some point because there'll be a brand new ref that's going to make some call that an old ref would have made, but it'll be

talked about because it's a brand new ref. Nine of them at least. That's a lot of referees. That is a lot. Yes. How many crews are there in total? Do we know? It's probably not that... 16? Gotta be at least that. I think it's like...

There's probably two extras. I mean, that's... You lose a guy off half of those crews. That makes a big deal. Big deal. And what are they calling? Right. How many head refs? Yes.

Yes. I mean, it's a – we'll be back in – 17 crews. Yeah, 17. 17. Okay. Two swing officials is what Zito said. Oh, that makes sense. Plus, now they have the video people that are full-time.

Right. And hopefully the new replays. Did they change the replay thing? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think it's changed. Didn't we celebrate? The Hulk vision thing.

Wasn't that the thing? That was before last season, though, wasn't it? No, that was last season. But I feel like a few weeks ago we celebrated something. The USFL was testing a bunch of that, like the new stuff that the NFL is just going to wait on. And the XFL is officially a testing ground. of that, like the new stuff that the NFL is just going to wait on. And the XFL is officially a testing ground. The man who probably did the same

for his plays in Centerville, Ohio. Guy who had 41 tackles in a high school football game twice. College football national champion, Ohio State Hall of Famer. Super Bowl champion, COVID survivor,

A.J. Hahn. Hey, A.J. A.J., you played Jesus at your high school's play of Jesus' thing? I was not in any school plays or really any play of any sort, but I imagine I would have gone out for the role of Jesus, no question. Why is that? Because the hair and the – It'd be a great role. What do you mean?

If you're going to be in a play, don't you want to have a bunch of lines? Well, I don't know. He does seem to be chatty, right? They got that book. He said a lot. Yeah. Very preachy. He was.

For good reason. For good reason. But happy Easter to you, AJ. Happy Easter, AJ. Judas. Yes. Happy Easter to all of you. Thank you.

Happy Jackie Robinson Day to you, AJ. Happy Jackie Robinson Day, AJ. Hey, we talked about- Darren Revelle, isn't he leading the charge? All right. Darren Revelle has more Martin Luther King Jr. memorabilia in his basement than anybody else. He is not racist. That's right.

Anyways, Jackie Robinson, we talked about in the first hour. Think about his mental toughness, AJ. The amount of shit that was said from Army and obviously into the majors, being the first black dude in there. The amount of things that had to be said to that dude, and he just continued to just like, eh, whatever, dude. Watch me hit this fucking ball, dude. That's incredible to me.

I think that should be talked about a lot more. I know, obviously, Trailblazer, incredible. But the mental toughness he might be the mentally toughest human in the history because sports involve mental toughness to begin with let alone that entire thing what a legend dude do you think uh maybe some like current athletes when they get upset when people like fans oh hey you suck you're not as good as you used to be you think they ever think back like hey maybe i can handle some of this stuff compared to what this guy was doing. Could you imagine what I've said to Jackie Robbins?

Yeah, like whenever I missed a couple kicks in a game against the University of Pittsburgh and it cost us an opportunity to get to the national championship and we lost by four. Well, I took a safety, we would have lost by six, but we lost by four. The things that are being said to me, oh, I had never felt like a...

Like to your face? No, obviously not. Well, on the way out of the stadium, yeah, there were some things. And I wonder if there's a photo. I mean, I gave a couple to some people too because I obviously felt terrible about myself. I felt terrible for my teammates and everything.

But then the things that were said, that was Facebook. That was back when Facebook was just starting. So, I mean, the things that were happening on there, you know, I was getting a lot of it so i've seen a lot of pictures of people i didn't i mean i don't know if that's face to face or not i've seen a lot of pictures of things it being said to me and then there was some shit thrown in my car outside and i thought like about like hey i'm gonna disappear man i i need to no longer be seen

ever again and i didn't know what that meant exactly i actually hopped in my jeep and just drove like towards uh towards virginia through maryland i got like hours and hours and hours I didn't know what that meant exactly. I actually hopped in my Jeep and just drove towards Virginia through Maryland. I got hours and hours and hours away. I was just going to disappear or whatever. And if you think about that, that was just one moment in my life where it changed me forever, calloused me forever. I actually needed that, I think, to get to where I'm at. Jackie Robinson had that, what, every fucking day of his life? Like, I don't know how the hell he was able to do it.

Honestly, I have no clue how he was able to do it. And perform at a super high level. Like, that's the thing. Like, in baseball, too, I would imagine every time he was up to bat, how do you not think everybody's going to hit me? Like, oh, they're going to throw at me. Like, that would be so difficult. And then if you have success, like, I guess your teammates would be happy for you, right?

Because I feel like. You would hope so. They treated him like shit, shit though that was a big part of it too with the exception of one or two guys like the entire team treated him like shit so there's zero there's zero positive like basically zero like hey you're doing great like that is in your day to day that's insane and they're actively like everyone's actively rooting against you pretty much too. Yeah, because, you know, what could happen, remember, like that thought of, remember, Jackie does well, remember what could happen. That's every other player in the league, every teammate probably thinking that.

Oh, shout out to that mental toughness. Shout out. He was hit 72 times in his career, Zito just said. And I don't know what a baseline is for how many times people were hit. That sounds like a lot of beams, though. Yeah. That's a decent amount. I don't know how many years he played, but that's a lot.

I don't know. And now we're pulling guys after the seventh, pitching a perfect game? Well, that's how. Was it after the seventh inning that he got pulled? Yeah. And 80 pitches was his limit. Yeah. Dave Roberts, though.

There's got to be exceptions. Hey, okay, maybe if it's a no-hitter, you pull me. Perfect game? How about will you let me give it a shot for two more innings? Dave Roberts, have you read the stats? What does Jet Passon think? Does he think, hey, what? I don't know if we're allowed to talk to Jet Passon ever again

because Jet Passon said something on somebody else's show that got him and ESPN into a bunch of shit. Is he still with ESPN? Yes, he's still with ESPN, but I haven't even broached the subject of having him come on our show. I don't even know what he did. Well, it wasn't really anything, actually. The reason why we're speaking about Jet Passon right now

is because he was pissed off that they didn't let him finish the game. He was also talking about other baseball stuff that was happening that he wasn't happy about in a way he used it i think he called i think called something a shit sandwich he did yeah i think he called something a shit sandwich this is during a negotiation uh between the pa and he was describing it from i believe a player's perspective and when i heard him say that i actually thought to myself this is the first time like one of the main media people have spoken for the player side in arbitration before because normally the media is fed information from the leagues they have deals with the leagues the leagues let them know that they have deals with them and the way they feed their pitch to the players is always super players are

a bunch of spoiled fucking pricks right always so jet passing coming out and saying well this particular offer was a shit sandwich actually i was like whoa all right jet let's go like that is this has never happened before then he had to apologize like two days later and then uh you know that whole thing went down so i haven't even asked him but i believe jet is one of those guys who just wants what's good for baseball and a guy throwing a perfect game is good for fucking baseball i honestly believe that dave roberts managers our manager for the dodgers said he doesn't regret anything because aj have you seen the stats of what happens to his fucking shoulder if he throws 81 pitches in one night have you seen

it you don't know aj dave roberts knows you don't know i guess i'm i'm speaking out of school aren't i baseball was i played baseball i pitched growing up. I had to rest my arm at times, but not nearly to the – even close to any level of what these guys do. But I still think for baseball, if – Rob Manfred, right? You say he's an amazing commissioner. He's the commissioner? I've never said that. He is the commissioner.

No one has ever said that. I'm a huge fan of his. I would imagine he would have wanted this to happen because this would be big news all over the place and we'd all get to celebrate baseball early in the season. I hate Rob Manfred. Okay? Oh.

Yeah. Just want to make sure that is clear. I mean, it's still Good Friday. It's Good Friday. Jesus did his thing in a couple days. I'm back. Yep. Had last supper on Thursday.

Tom Brady retired. I come back on Sunday. Bingo. Interesting series of events. Was he not 100% sure he was going to come back? I just wanted to make sure that people knew that I did not love Rob Manford. But I would assume if Rob Manford had a brain, I would love him. And if he had a brain, he would want somebody to have a perfect game

because it would only be the 24th time in the history of the entire league that that happens. Now, follow-up. Clayton Kershaw 34 years old he's like our age our generation and I was talking about how there's no way like he grew up in a generation where we were actually like you know like drinking beers before games and like didn't really know about all this shit I feel like we're the last ones honestly I don't want to sound like I'm the last generation but it is like we kind of were the last generation our age group so they're saying he was pissed off but i think he even said like a bigger picture like he had he had to bite in i'd assume he's not thrilled about it at all

no this entire thing absolutely pissed you kidding me like we say he's never thrown a perfect game before he's probably he's one of the like the five best pitchers in the last you know 20 years like this would have been a massive accomplishment for him. But what's he going to say at this point? So that high school in Texas would have a Super Bowl champion, a Masters champion, and then a perfect game pitcher all within like four months. That high school in Texas that they want to.

Plus he's super duper rich. He had all of the money that high school. Indoor facility for the football program. Yeah, I assume the baseball one does if Kershaw is doing his thing. Is this the closest he's ever been to a perfect game? I don't know if he's – he's won three Cy Young, so I don't know if he's had one. But also, like, he was at 13 strikeouts,

and I believe the most strikeouts for a perfect game was 14. Oh, he hates this day. He probably could have set that record too. He righty or lefty this big? Lefty. He was painting it, huh? Nasty curveball. 12-6.

Oh, yeah. It feels like it's going at your head. Just like that. By the way, top five and hit by pitch of all time. Number five, Jason Kendall. Ooh. 250, I think. Hey, he would crowd that plate.

Oh, yeah. Hey. 250. Jason Kendall. You're going to get a strike out of me. You're going to earn it because I'm going to be right fucking here, and I'm not wearing gloves either. You can even hit me right here on this pinky.

I don't care. My pop time is still going to be fucking ha-ha. You know what I'm saying? Jason Kendall crowded that plate. Oh, yeah. You're going to still going to be like, ha, ha. You know what I'm saying? Jason Kettle crowded that plate. Oh, yeah. You're going to have to earn a strike with me, pal. Hell, yeah. He was just eating.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was before the giant elbow pads and stuff, too. Well, he didn't wear gloves. I mean, he wouldn't have. No. That would not have happened. He was actually asking to put the hat on.

No, without the ear things? Yeah, he was actually just asking to wear a hat when he went out there. Yeah, if I take one in a jar, I know, you know, Sour Crout Soul fucking went in there. Did you see the post? They made a post about the pierogi race opening day. They did? No way. Yeah, they say some things

change, some things never will. And it was Jalapeno Hannah or something. She was in the lead. Sour Crout Soul was in the lead. She always is. Moving. Yeah. Sauerkraut Saul was in the way back.

I think they buried Sauerkraut Saul. I don't know what that means. Are the Pirates underpeated? I don't know what that means. They're 3-3. Okay. Good start. 3-3.

Hey. Pirates are back. There we are. Here we go, boys. Baseball fucking stinks. Let's move on. Okay? Let's feel good Friday.

Stephon Gilmore is an Indianapolis Colt. AJ Hawk. Let's go, dude. Stephon Gilmore is an Indianapolis Colt. AJ Hawk. Let's go, dude. We talked to Darius Butler yesterday about it. Darius said that in a modern defense, you need about six members of the secondary that are good. Because you're going to have to double a couple people, and then that's going to leave some people on. Some very talented wide receivers in which there seems to be a plethora of them coming in every single draft class at this point. We signed Stephon Gilmore.

We get Julian Blackman back back we have kenny moore there it feels like okay we let rocky sin end up going to raiders we get yanni kingakwe on the other side deforest buckner darius leonard this is hey let's go colts we're making plays and connor brought this point up earlier this is the best roster matt r Ryan has ever had in his entire career is it really top to bottom you think has to be yeah yeah I mean they have a ton of a ton of talent I think what D-Bud is saying is so true now for DBs to be successful you have to find a way to get a decent pass rush too that's why and Gawkway is a great addition I think he's so he's speedy around the edge I think he can definitely have a good year for him.

But you have to have, I mean, maybe more than six good DBs. You have to have at least six that you trust at all times. Because DBs, we know with how offenses are too, they may have three, four, five receivers at a time come out there. And the next play they'll have one receiver. Like they can just change things up. But everything is so like there's so much communication in the back end and so much film study where you have to know and be speaking pre-snap the safety's got to be alerting the inside guys hey this is with this split and where they're out in the field like these are the two

little routes they like like you got to know what's going on and if you don't have those guys that are like a whole almost like an o-line you know an o-line when they play together on a string they operate as one that's the same thing withs, but a lot more ground to cover. In Gillylock, Darius Butler said yesterday, incredibly intelligent corner. Defensive player of the year a couple years ago. Any great one is. Any great one has to be very, very smart.

Have to know exactly what's going on at all times. Know when they can bite. Know when they can't. Know when they can make a play. I'm thankful he's here. We chatted about Darrell Rivas yesterday too. He was talking about how that dude just reset the market. I think he said Deion Sanders was the best corner of all time just because he changed the game completely. I wish I would have been more alive when Deion Sanders was doing his thing.

Honestly, I wish I was. Yeah, I saw a decent amount of Deion, I think. Maybe later in his career I saw more of it. I remember a lot of Deion because he was a Cincinnati Red. This is sweet. Deion's on the Reds. I've only seen highlights. Him at the Braves, right?

He played in the World Series the same week as a game or whatever. And he wasn't just on the Braves. He was a fucking guy. Starting, yeah. He was like a guy on the Braves. When you really think about it like how awesome is that that'd be so sweet to play Major League Baseball and NFL Football

Bro greatest athlete of all time I always you know I'm I hold Deion Sanders in very high regards no matter what he says like he can go talk shit you know if you ball you get the call when he was doing that entire thing there was a couple conversations that happened and I saw some people on the internet like dion really talking blah blah

blah it's like no like he's one of the only humans on earth that can say whatever the fuck he wants because he was able to beat what he was able to accomplish something that point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero one percent of people in the history of athleticism have ever been able to do at a very high level it's like he and it comes to athletics, I think that guy is able to just do whatever he wants. But that corner position is where the best athletes on the field are, they always say. You know, hey, they've got to shadow the fastest people. They've got to be smarter. And they have to have mental toughness just to be able to forget getting dunked on

because that's going to happen. That's going to happen. And it's going to happen in moments where it is very apparent hey, this is on you. It's one-on-one. You may have shut this dude down all game and they had a big fourth down they needed and the dude somehow made a one-handed crazy catch over top of you and it's all on you.

And you just shut this guy down for 59 minutes. Well, that's what he said. He said, let's say there's 60 plays and you are 57 good, but then three of them you get dunked on. You're out of the league you're fired you just had a 57 what is that a 99 hit rate or whatever and then you just give up three plays bum bum bum and it's over and once you give up one by the way they start seeing like okay is this the leaky valve right here is this where we are headed towards and they're going to come at you again and

you got to correct it so quick. The corner position is such a fascinating one when it comes to, like, the mentality and what you have to be able to accomplish. And, you know, they're actual Ferraris, too. Like, they have to feel, and I think this is what Darius Butler is so strong about with Baker Mayfield not playing. Like, corners have to be above, like, 90%, 95%, because they have to keep up with guys that are 100 percent running four fours four threes you can get exposed quickly if you have

you know a little dinged up ankle that's kind of hobbling you a little bit or a hamstring that's a little bit tight you can get exposed quickly at that position as opposed to other ones I think that's why Darius is so strong on the fact like if you are hurt do not play because that film is going to be seen and you are going to be judged off of that film and i think that's because the corner position is one where you can get fucking how you doing keep it moving real quick aj yeah and but now like that nickel slash kind of slot guy that kind of covers their inside threats that dude should be i i would imagine that position too will get paid more and more as time goes because, yeah, it's like, oh, it used to be,

oh, he can't really cover one-on-one as a corner, but we can move him inside and he can be our nickel guy and he'll be okay. But now it's like, no, that dude can cover anywhere. Like your nickel or your dime dude has to be able to cover their best receiver at times. Best receiver, tight end. That is now most teams. Little scat backs out of the backfield when you're running different blitzes

and different things. There's just so much that person has to do. I think that position deserves some more respect probably. Stephon Gilmore signed a two-year, $23 million deal guaranteed of 14. So who knows if that's a one-year 14, two-year 14 guarantee. We don't know how it's set up until it gets out what the real expectations are for him as an Indianapolis Colt. But Kenny Moore put out a tweet with zoom in on eyes or whatever

because he's going into his last contract, and he plays the position you were chatting about, and he plays it at a very, very high level. He is everywhere, has to be able to tackle, has to be able to cover, has to have great ball skills, and also has to be incredibly intelligent. He is a guy that might be one of those guys in that market that you're talking about that might change the entire game. He should, yeah.

I think it would be cool to see that position start getting giant paydays. I mean, yeah, they'll never give him as much as a number one locked down corner probably, but they still should get a big chunk of it. Connor, you watched Gilly Lock. How many years? He was with New England for four years, I believe. Pretty good player, huh? Yeah, he won Defensive Player of the

Year and we won a Super Bowl. He had the game-winning breakup against the Jags in the AFC Championship. He had an interception against the Rams in the Super Bowl. So yeah, he's not just like a day-to-day unbelievable player. When the lights come on and it's the biggest games of the season, he's also an unbelievable player. When the lights come on and it's the biggest games of the season,

he's also an unbelievable player then as well. Oh, the Colts are winning the Super Bowl. They got a chance. Steelers dead. Patriots dead. Packers dead. I don't know about that. Whoever you're cheering for dead.

Matt Ryan's still a quarterback. Lions dead. Bears done. No, no, no. Goodbye, Dolphins. I don't care how much money and effort you're doing into that whole thing. And you, Nick, Steelers, done. Let's never forget this.

Colts are winning the Super Bowl. Let's go, dude. Patriots killed Matt Ryan. They own him, okay? No, no, no, no. Sorry, but. He was born in the dark. He is coming back, Matt.

Have you put a big bet on him, then? If you're so confident in the Colts, you and Fan do a plus 2700. I would imagine you're going to throw a bunch of money at him. Well, right now I'm betting heavy on the Red Sox and the Yankees. Yeah, check that box off first. Because I lost yesterday the Cardinals and Brewers. Phillies. Phillies.

So Pujols is really hitting dingers tonight. Pujols actually screwed us yesterday. Game was 0-0. Guy's trying to steal third base like he's 20 years old, dude. He's lightning fast. I love it. Albert Pujols?

Yeah, he's so fast, man. It's awesome. He clocked in at like under one mile per hour. It was crazy. He's got to be 90 fucking years old. Oh, he's 40 plus for sure. Trying to steal third in a 0-0 game. Nobody knows how old he is.

He's still playing. What are you talking? He's in the 48. Oh, yes. That guy was a monster. Wasn't he 15 years ago? He didn't get a homer opening day? He's 42.

Jesus. Happy Jackie Robinson day. Did he come into the MLB when he was 15? Well, a lot of people actually think that he was like 27 when they were reporting him as like 21. So he could be 50. We really don't know. Oh, Freddie Adu type.

Bingo. 2001 was his first season. Okay. Well, shout out to Albert Poole. I'm still doing it. Absolute legend. Legend. I love Albert Poole.

I think I fucked me over yesterday, but all right, dude. You got to do what you got to do, man. Joining us now to tell us more about the Gilly Lock situation and why the Indianapolis Colts are going to win the Super Bowl and anything else going on around the NFL is the host of the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and friends, us being the friends, he being Rap Sheet, senior NFL insider for NFL Network and NFL.com. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport.

Hey, Rap Sheet. Where are we going? What? I'm in a car. Yeah, we know. This is becoming your new scene where are you headed um i'm headed to play golf um i'm gonna obviously make phone calls on the ride other than this to work besides going to play golf but i'm currently going to play golf and then after that it's grind

time to the draft so you're gonna lock it down after this so right now you're in an uber to the draft. I lock it down after this. So right now you're in an Uber to the golf course? A friend is actually driving me to the golf course right now, which is actually nice because then I have my hands free to do things like talk to you guys. Which is perfect. Hey, thank the friend, please. Thank you, friend! Not close, thank you.

Good pop there. Yeah, that was a good pop. Big fan of whoever that is We appreciate you joining us here on your way to 13 days away from the draft What are you Listen I'm not coming after you I think what's important

Is just keeping a clear head Amid the craziness We had the craziness of the Gilmore situation I don't know if you saw that I did see that let's talk about it okay uh jim ursay sends the jumbo jet was that a 757 to go pick up stefan gilmore there was never a time where stefan gilmore was not going to play for the colts after that jet arrived in stefan gilmore said holy shit jim ursay was on the thing with a guitar. Brother, welcome to the Colts. They fly out here.

Was it, how locked was this in before the plane gets there? And what all happened in the visit to Indianapolis that got this finished and the deal done? Yeah, see, what's weird in these sort of veteran situations, especially as you get further away from, you know, really the crux of free agency, these visits are meaningful. And, you know, for some of the lower guys, they like just, they want to go visit and they want to go talk to the coach. It's like if you're Stephon Gilmore and you take a visit somewhere, like say to the Indianapolis Colts, there is a pretty good chance you're signing, right? Because you know that there's a deal good enough that if you're going to go on a plane,

even a private plane, that you're probably going to take the deal. So to me, what this sounded like was the Colts saying, all right, we're going to, you know, we're going to offer enough to where it's going to be worth your while. Come visit. If you like it, probably sign.

So like, I would say when it came out that he was visiting, I was pretty sure that he was signing. This was his best offer. I know there's some other teams interested. Panther had some interest. Eagles had some interest. But to me, this was always about your Colts. That's great news. This is the best team

that Matt Ryan's ever had. Do the Colts have any more moves to bring in like Jarvis Landry or any weapons for him to throw the fucking ball to? You think this is the best team that Matt Ryan's had? Yes. Interesting. They went to the Super Bowl.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Like, you know. So you're thinking Colt's Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah. I actually just went around the room and I pointed at every single person that has a rooting interest of another team and told them they're donezo because we got Gilly lock on the squad now let's go back to the question are they going to get him somebody to throw the fucking ball to or are they waiting

for the draft do you think i they've had some conversations with some guys who are available but my sense is they're waiting for the draft and that's one of the problems slash solutions with having a draft that has so many receivers. I mean, we could see six receivers go in the first round or more. I mean, it's like, and it's such a weird environment in the NFL because you have teams like, you know, the Raiders, or teams like Miami who has traded for a receiver and paid a lot of money for it.

And then you have other teams like, for instance, the Green Bay Packers and the Chiefs who go, we're good. We will wait for the draft. We are going to get someone we like. We're going to get it at a great value, and we are fine. And I think the Colts are more along the lines of, you know what, we are fine. Plus, the Colts are going to run the heck out of the ball, so that already makes every receiver a little bit better anyway

because you've got to defend against that. Thank you. Ian, are there any developments or anything you're hearing about Baker Mayfield and his whole situation? So since we talked last, we have seen quotes from the podcast. And as I sort of thought, he talked plenty about football. It wasn't like just music. This guy.

He's out to lunch. Space cadet. Yeah, we lost you. Obviously, we lost you. You're driving through. No, no, hold on. I'm back. We're getting out there to that golf course. I mean, unbelievable, Ian. No, this is a good service area. You guys got me good?

Yeah, you never know. You know what I mean? That's the podcast place. He did not talk about music in there, although is a good service area. You guys got me good? Yeah, you never know. You know what I mean? That's the podcast, please. He did not talk about music in there, although I think he did probably. He did listen to the whole thing. Loves music. He's a normal human. He likes music. But, yeah, Baker talked a lot about football in there.

A lot about football. And, you know, he identified the Seahawks as his likely team. That was a little surprising to me, I have to say, because I haven't gotten the sense at all that the Seahawks are that interested. I mean, I think the salary, they're definitely not interested. But they batted Drew Locke. They batted Geno Smith. They may take a quarterback in the draft because I know they've done a lot of homework.

They had someone, Desmond Ritter maybe, in on Wednesday. They've done a lot of homework on these draftable quarterbacks. So to me, the Carolina Panthers seem to be the most likely spot for Baker Mayfield or maybe a team that brings him in as a big-time, high-money backup who could take over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That would make some sense to me as well wow that'd be quite a move for Baker how pumped would he be I'm ending up in Tampa and I'm getting a team after Tom is how long's Tom playing what do you mean what do you

think he's I mean I thought last year the whole time that he would retire at the end of the year which was wrong obviously but I mean mean, right, but then wrong. And now it's sort of like, when is he actually going to be bad? Like, when? Like, he doesn't look like he's declining. His team is still stacked. I would imagine, just from a coaching standpoint, this will be very, very similar to what we saw last year with the Bucs. And Bruce Aarons was involved, but like,

VA was not doing the offense. It was Letwitch and it was Brady. They should be the same, right? So like, I don't know. Brady could play two more years or more. Like, I don't, I'm at the point now where I don't understand why he would stop playing. Okay, well, I think we all are, by the way, because he took six weeks off and said,

well, I hate this life. I'm not doing that. But how come when we asked you about Tom being a part of the Dolphins ownership and being Jackie Moon, you said that didn't sound feasible. Now it's being reported everywhere. Do you think that is his next stop? You think he plays out this contract with Tampa and then, boom, we're back to owning the Dolphins and playing quarterback for the Dolphins?

I will have to check on this, but I'm not sure you can actually do that. I don't know that you can own a team and also play for it. In some sports, you can't. Now, would they make an exception for Brady? Maybe. But I'm not sure that you could do that. Otherwise, I think you probably know

there's some owners who would make themselves the starting quarterback. I think that's part of it. That's that's why that's why you own a team that's right well so let's just go back to the brady uh the report the dolphins thing right so i have not reported that florio has there was another ben volan boston globe i know it's sort of being widely talked about now boston globe yes uh oh god there's me again hold on you guys got me yes we hear you that is actually a good action shot right there um so i i do not have it good enough to report where i know that was definitely happening right so i know there was some interest i I know there was talk. I know one

of his really good friends is a sort of part owner slash maybe the heir apparent in Miami. It's just think about the things that need to happen for this to have been true, right? Brady needs to, the Bucs would have had to let him out, which I didn't get the sense they wanted to do him at all.

He would have had to join the ownership. He would have had to be an executive. And then the league would have to allow do him at all. He would have had to join the ownership. He would have had to be an executive. And then the league would have to allow him to play. And there would have had to have been a trade from the ball. It seems, and then they would have to trade Tua. It seems like a lot. And I don't know.

To me, it seems like too much. Okay, so you're saying it sounds like a bunch of bullshit? I mean, I'm sure some of it is true. But I have some doubts about whether the entire thing is true. Okay, last question from me before the boys have some, and AJ, I sure has a great question on this Good Friday. Kenny Pickett, only quarterback to visit the Lions.

Is this MCDC doing his day's diligence? No. I think it is at least a consideration. Wow. Is Dej's diligence? No. I think it is at least a consideration. Wow. So Pickett visits today, and they had Malik Willis and Sam Howell, I believe, at the Senior Bowl,

and then they saw the other quarterbacks at the Senior Bowl as well. So basically at the end of all this, they will have had all the quarterbacks at the senior bowl or into visit. Lions have two. Seems early to take a quarterback, but I don't know. And they also have 32. So could the Lions leave the first round with a quarterback? I think they could.

And again, two seems early, but we have seen this before where the whole world was convinced some quarterback was going late one and some team falls in love with them. We saw it with Blake Bortles. We saw it with Mitchell. Daniel Jones.

These guys are all really good players. No! Whoa! The Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jacksonville Jaguars. We need Hutchinson. Alright.

Bortles had his moments. Trubisky, we'll see. But anyway, so what I'm saying is the Lions are going to do, I would be surprised, but not shocked. You look like your face was Play-Doh there for a second. Yeah. You look like the old Play-Doh face-ass when it froze up there. You really did.

Awesome grommet. Your voice came through later. A little remix. Sounded like Twista came in real quick. Remix. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. How's your golf game going to be today? Terrible or good, do you think? I played terrible the last time I played, so I'm hoping that I have a little bounce back performance.

I'm gearing up. I got my golf trip in May, so I got to really impress everyone with how good my golf game is, so it's time to practice. Where are you going? Going to Kiwa, actually. No way. No way.

South Carolina. We know. You're going to kill it out there. Aloha, dude. That's Hawaii. Whatever, dude. We got nine Connor. Yeah, whatever, dude. We got nine new referees coming into the league next year because we got nine guys retired.

We got any Arch Manning-esque guys coming up the pipeline that might change the game and not completely suck? You mean like any Sean Hockley's coming up? Sure. No. There's been a lot of referee turnover in the last three or four years i would say more than i can remember at any other time and it does seem like the reps are getting younger for and i i don't know if that's good or bad but that's what

it seems like uh which is good and i don't know i mean the only thing that would make it better of course would be your playstation uh review which you know i don't know. I mean, the only thing that would make it better, of course, would be your PlayStation review, which I don't really see any momentum toward that. That's because everybody's out to golf instead of worrying about the goddamn game like we are every single day. Everybody's driving around going. You guys are the stewards of the game, I would say. Well, thank you.

We take that honor. Stewards. Yes. And we are kind of, aren't we? We are kind of stewards of the game. Steward Connor. Thank you. Steward Ty.

Steward Ton. Thank you. Steward me. Steward Pat. Steward AJ. Steward AJ, yeah. Steward Zeet. Yeah, Steward Zeet.

Steward Don. What? What? Yeah, yeah. Steward Foxy back there. What? Hey, good stewarding. Squire Rapshaw.

God, AJ, sorry about it. Ian, where's Odell Beckham Jr. going to be? Is it a guarantee he's going back to the Rams? Coming to the Colts. It's not a guarantee. By the way, we made some headlines with our last Odell. Man, I started getting attacked by surgeons. Like, we don't know if the surgery wasn't good or not.

I'm like, well, Ian literally said it wasn't. Sorry you were getting attacked for the first time ever. I'm maybe not being perfect. I understand you went to fucking school, okay? But not saying that is the normal thing, by the way. Not saying that's normal. Right. It also doesn't mean that the surgeon did anything wrong.

Sometimes they just, sometimes surgeons don't go as well as others. Like, it's like we all, and I'm guilty too, obviously. We're all in a rush to be like, oh, surgery was a success. But they're not always successes. I mean, we've seen guys, oh, there's remix again. We've seen guys who've had, who struggled a year back and took a full year to get back from surgery. That happens.

Then we go back to, going back to Odell. I don't think it's a slam dunk that he goes to the Rams, but they certainly seem like the leader in the clubhouse. He liked it there. I know he liked L.A. I know that they know more about his medical than any other team. Their team doctor did the surgery. Other teams are interested, but that, to me, seems like the most likely scenario.

Go ahead, Tom. Ian, who's going to trade for Kyler? Yeah, that was an interesting one yesterday for my guy, Tom Palacero, right? So, I'm sure the teams have been calling because what happens is anytime there's a media report, which happens plenty,

teams call around, right? That's what they do. They say, oh, wow, he could be interested, and they call. I haven't got the sense that the Cardinals would want to trade him at all. But just think about, oh, wow, he could be interested, and they call. I haven't got the sense that the Cardinals would want to trade him at all. But just think about, before Kyler, they had Josh Rosen, and the whole thing was about, like, how am I going to get a quarterback, right? So I don't think they let him go at all. But I would imagine the teams that would be interested were all the teams

that are interested in Deshaun, you know, from the Saints still need a quarterback, even though they have Jameis back, the Falcons. You know, they have Marcus Mariota. They could get out of that deal i mean there's those teams i would imagine the carolina panthers would have some interest all the same teams that are still sort of looking for a quarterback and may draft one would have some interest in kyler the other thing that's kind of i would say caught me off guard a little bit is why does kyler want to deal so quickly a lot of times the best comes to those who wait when the quarterback deals because some other deals could get done in front of you,

then you get to leave over them. I'm surprised he's in a rush. Yeah, well, there's six other quarterbacks, six in the last ten years that have gotten re-upped after their third year going into their fourth year. Now, all those guys, I believe, had won a playoff game at that point other than Tannehill who signed like a $90 million deal with the Miami Dolphins before being released to go to the Titans.

So it is not abnormal. I thought it was early too. I kept thinking like Kyler was much younger than he is, but this is a very normal time for quarterbacks that know that they're going to be the franchise's quarterback for a lot of time going forward to ask for a contract extension. We literally learned that. I learned that in the first hour here.

Honestly, I just learned this. Well, I'm not even just talking about in his career. I mean in the calendar. Because if you think about when all the other quarterback deals get done, they usually get done like I think Wentz and Goff got done in late June. Carr a couple years back got done in July. Luck got done in July June. Carr, a couple years back, got done in July. Luck got done in July. I think July 4th, actually. Josh Allen got done during training camp.

I mean, that's when these deals usually get done for whatever reason. It seems like Kyler is pushing for something before the draft. And I know he wants it done, but, like, what if another quarterback, like, what if Lamar Jackson gets done before him? That helps his market. I'm just a little surprised that he's not wanting to wait until right up until training camp that's what i'm saying we do know you have good intel from arizona cardinals as well uh aj go ahead last question for old rap sheet while he's getting ready to go golf after the harry potter museum in the Pez dispenser museum. Now he's golfing. We are 13 days away from a $200 million economic growth

to the beautiful city of Las Vegas with the draft spectacular. That's going to be fun. It is. Oh, that's when you're back to work. You're going to have a blast. Oh, wow. That's when you're back to work. Wow.

Sin City. Happy Easter. My live shot location is awesome. The background is going to be the strip. I'm going to be in a suite at the Cosmo. It's going to be where I'm on TV from during the draft. It's going to look ball. Sipping martinis.

Wow. You know where we'll be? In Vegas next to me? No, no, no. It's South Bay. In front of the Bellagio Steps next to our set? No. Maybe it would have been cool, actually, to put ourselves in front of those fountains. Next time it's in Vegas. Next time it's in Vegas.

We'll be right here at Draft Spectacular. You're our competition, okay, on Draft Night. It's our biggest night of the year. It's our biggest show we have. We have no idea why. We don't know shit about fuck about any of these people. We got massive guests this year. Huge.

Hey, we got big-time guests. I think we guests this year. Huge. We got big time guests. I think, hey, I think we're even going to have a couple of war room calls. Whoa. Yeah, I think we're going to have some. Seriously?

Yes. Yeah. I mean, we're going all in here for this draft spectacular. Might even have AJ Hawk in studio. Whoa. In studio? What?

Yeah, maybe. He's going to fly out there? Wow. No, he's going to fly out there. Try probably. Try probably.

Going down. He's got to be dad there. Hey. No, dry probably. Dry probably. Going down, Rav. He's got to be dad there. Ian, hey, last thing for me. Be careful out in Vegas. I heard from a former guest here on the show. It's not the same as it once was, but who's going to be the number one overall pick? Two years ago.

Yeah. I would say if I had to guess right now, probably Ian Hutchinson. But I do not say that's a lock. I don't know that's a lock. Javon Walker is a pass rusher who I would say is gaining some steam. Some others in consideration, my guess would be defense rather than offense rather than tackle right now just from where they are as a

team say hutchinson would be the smartest and safest but sometimes teams are like with the number one pick i need to get the best ceiling i need to keep this out of the park um so i don't i would say hutchinson right now but it's going to be interesting to see what they if if that if if they take the triple or if they say i'm gonna just go to the most athletic player i could find so it's fascinating because a lot of people have put over how athletic aiden hutchinson is as well because that's kind of been lost in this entire conversation and darius butler then mentioned about how you know there's egos on coaches as well so like if they think that the bigger upside is on you know trevon walker for

whatever reason we're not saying it they're asking their coaches like hey you can what do you think you could do and they're like oh we could do blah blah blah we can get blah blah blah we can make him into something bigger but we're also in the middle of smoke screen season and you're about to golf so what the fuck do you know you know what i mean that's what i'm saying but darius is right though as as he usually is because when coaches you, all these GMs and evaluators do the rankings, then the coaches get involved and it's like, okay, well, this one thing that makes him someone we can't take, I can fix this. And coaches get involved and, like, I'm not saying it skews the process,

but it skews the process a little bit. It's an easy way to make mistakes. Well, and also it might make them feel a lot better about who they're taking. And, you know, I guess five years from now, we'll find out if any decision's made right. The fact of the matter is a lot of these dudes are going to stink. I hate to say it, but...

Half. Probably more than that, right? First round is half, but yeah. Later in the first round. Later than that, it's not a good percentage. Not a good percentage. That's what it is. So we make a big to-do. This is just like the high school kids that are on TV picking hats.

You have not done a fucking thing. It is hard for me to have any appreciation. But, hey, I would do the same thing if I was you, so I can't knock it too hard. Feels like that's what the draft is. A lot of comparisons. Oh, this is the next Jared Allen. Oh, this is a faster Keenan Allen.

It's like, whoa, what are we even talking about? We'll see if they can make it. We hope they all do. We hope everybody gets a billion dollars, including you. Hope you shoot, you know, under 90 today. Yeah, shoot breaking 90 where I'm going to go play. It would be fantastic. Oh, a hundo.

You're saying we're going 120, 150? It could be a little ugly. I'm not going to lie. We'll see. So do you like golf still, even though you're 120, 130, you're still enjoying it? I'll let you know at about 8 o'clock today. This one, this might take me for a little ride. Are you walking? Oh, we're walking. We're going to play Bethpage Black. Oh, you got no shot.

No shot. You're a little bit... Bethpage is the... We're gonna walk, and by the 16th hole, like, I think it's the 16th tee, which is, like, up a big hill, and you really want to just, like, drop down and roll down the hill and fall asleep.

So, if I... Hopefully, I'm... Well, there we go. Makes sense. Yeah, you didn't even wrap up. Yeah, you're a cheat! A man who obviously played in the NFL a long, long... How many years? Ten years.

A decade. Dang, wow. Oh, shit. Super Bowl champion, obviously a pro bowler, incredibly hilarious mission getter, incredibly hilarious Mishengender, Teej Lang. Yeah, Teej! Mishigender.

Mishigender. Well, I didn't know if it was Mishigender, and then I remembered mid-word that it was, you know, there's a gander in there, and it just kind of, you know, it kind of came together like that. Kind of came together like that. I love hearing you guys, Yenzer's talk, man. Age, I don't know. Do you just hear Mike McCarthy

every time you guys talk? Absolutely. I think these guys were happy to hear that. I was like, yeah, this is Big Mike. When I first got on with you, I was like, this is exactly Big Mike. Big Mike would do well on this show, I think. We appreciate the fact

that Big Mike sounds like a yinzer then. As soon as we heard it, we're like, no. And then AJ was like, no. He had pictures of the stadiums and his house and his office and everything. He's super yinzer. We're very happy for him because Pittsburgh, you know, hockey time. Let's chit-chat a little bit here, Teej Lang, about the offseason moves for the Detroit Red Wings.

You know, your offseason's beginning very, very soon. No playoffs, nothing like that. Will you all watch the Penguins, the greatest program in the NHL, and say that's what we need to do? Or do you think the stubbornness of we were around when they were wearing, you know, leather helmets and that's when we were good. Like is there anything that can happen this offseason maybe make you guys a little better?

It's good for the NHL when you guys are good. It's been like 50, 60 years at this point. Teach? This is supposed to be like a feel-good Friday, positive Friday. Oh yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. I'm so sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I love you. Love you, Teach.

Love you, Teach. When you have tradition, like the Red Wings do, you just gotta to get back to basics, you know. And obviously they're going through a little rebuild now, but they've got some nice young talent. Not too sold on the coaching staff as of yet. Whoa, keep it positive. I think it's continuing to develop the young guys. And Steve Eiserman is the guy.

He's the guy that I think we all trust. He showed he could do it in Tampa. I mean, look at what Tampa's been doing for the last five years. Steve Iserman built that team. So, look, it might take a little bit longer than we'd all like to, but Red Wings just posted a shutout last night, man, against Carolina. They're a pretty damn good team. They've got the potential there. Maybe a couple more pieces.

I'd like to see them. You know the one thing about hockey that the Red Wings have been lacking the last couple of years is just kind of that physical style of hockey, right? Having a guy like, I know we probably – Gino Malkin. No, not Gino. He's a scumbag. He got to spend –

Like he plays – you know what I mean, the style of game he plays, that type of dude that everybody hates, but if he's on your team, you love him. I mean, just because he kind of sets that tone. I'd like the Red Wings to maybe try to pick up a few more of those pieces because that kind of brings you back to Detroit hockey toughness. That's right. You know, Darren McCarty era, All that good shit that we all used to love and grew up on.

Hockey's a different game, but I'd like to see a couple of those guys and kind of set the tone. I got no problems with Darren McCarty, by the way. I heard Darren McCarty heard what I said about the Red Wings. Hey, Darren, if they were like when you were playing, it'd be a much different

story out of my mouth. That's right. That's right. But for now, we got like the greatest program of all time. Sidney Crosby, greatest player of all time. It's hard not to get arrogant about that, but let's go back to what you were saying about Darren McCarty and a little bit of toughness and guys that you would want on your team,

not on anybody else's team. It feels like Motor City, Dan Campbell is one of those guys you would love to have on your fucking team, okay? He feels like he fits the mold perfectly for Detroit. He loves the challenge. He's always himself. He's very transparent. Three picks within the first 34 picks, two, 32 and 34. What do you think they're doing? Because Kenny Pickett's in town right now. I know you're close with the Lions organization. You do some work with them. What do you think they are missing and what do you think they should focus on? And is this quarterback shit real?

No, I think the quarterback stuff is all a facade. You know, this is smoke screen season, you know. I think a couple weeks ago there was a ton of hype around Malik Willis possibly being there too for the Lions. I don't see it. The biggest part part because I think I think they believe in what the offense did.

Probably not an upper echelon quarterback, but good enough to win you some games. I think there's just so many damn holes on the side of the ball. What are you doing? Well, TJ, his vacuum just exploded because he tried to sweep up fire. This has happened before.

He smokes these goddamn cigars. I hit my mute button as I was vacuuming up some action. Yeah. And that thing sounds like a computer crashing. We thought you were cyber attacked in the middle of that answer. The first time we heard it, we were all like, oh, shit, something just blew up. middle of that answer. The first time we heard it, we were all like, oh shit, something just blew up. Scared. Yeah, we were, it's

him vacuuming fire because his cigars catch fucking everything over there. I mean, it's, we're happy you're okay, AJ. Yeah. You too, TJ. We thought, I thought a plane was coming. Sorry, continue TJ. I'm sorry to cut you off there. I don't remember what I was saying, AJ. It's a facade.

The quarterback is just, you think it's bullshit. They're playing the game a little bit. Yeah, I think it's with the number two pick. Look, I think in a perfect world, they'd probably love to trade out as most teams in the top five would. But there's just nobody really there at the top five that's worth, I think, giving up a bunch of capital to go up and get. I mean, all those guys are kind of mixed in the same group where potential talent, yeah, but are there any surefire, you know, number one picks, number two picks? I don't think so.

It's going to be interesting what happens. So I think they're going to have a hard time trading out. But I think it's just got to be defensive. I mean, to look at the defensive ends that are probably going to be there, Hutchinson sounds like he's probably going to go first. But then you've got Thibodeau and even Walker from Georgia that can be really, really good pass rushers in the league. So I think with the Lions, it's got to be at least one of those three guys.

When you watch the team play last year, I mean, their defense wasn't horrible last year. I mean, with how much you look at the roster and you're like, God, there's not really one or two dudes that you've got to worry about, they played pretty solid ball for the majority of the season. And, I mean, there was a stretch there right about mid-season where, you know, they were holding teams to, you know, 17, 16, 19 points. I mean, you play that kind of defense in the NFL, you should at least be a 500 team, right?

But that was the glaring weakness last year was just the ability to generate a pass rush, especially late in the games. I mean, they had a chance to win a couple of those late games, Baltimore, Minnesota, where you get one stop there and the game's over, you know, and they just couldn't do that. So I think it's got to be, at least with the first pick, the second pick, I think it's got to be probably defensive line slash address type guy. Teeds, what's the vibe there around the team with the fans and everything you guys have the draft coming here soon 200 million hell yeah are people still on board with with motor city dan camber

like are they still all in there's a ton of hope like these guys are going to turn around i think so yeah i think so i think obviously um last year was kind of the first time I thought around Detroit where there were realistic expectations. People knew that this was going to be a little bit of a project team with Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell coming in. I think kind of rejuvenated the city a little bit. So I think there's definitely a lot of optimism. Now, you guys know, like I do, I mean, you get kind of that free ride the first year. There's a lot of excitement, a lot of hope, you know, but you start getting into year two and you're still not winning many games. That fades away really quick.

But, no, I think there's a ton of hype right now just with the draft coming up and having three of the top 34 picks. You've got Hard Knocks coming to town in the fall that's going to be awesome for the Lions and for Dan Campbell. A lot of people get to see the football side of him rather than just the press conference, you know, podi show that he puts on sometimes. And then you couple that with the draft coming in a couple years. Look, I think there's probably more excitement around this team now than I can remember, at least in the last maybe four or five years. So I think a lot of people are really excited about

the direction that Dan and Brad can hopefully take this team in. It sounds like you think people don't respect his football acumen enough. Have you been around him and watched film with him? Or are you just talking about when he took over the offensive play calling, the team seemed to do much better and you assume his football acumen is super hot yeah no i think just talking to a lot of guys i mean i don't really get to spend a ton of time with them you know especially last year with a lot of the buildings kind of still being in that covid protocol and it's still a thing by the way from what we've heard yeah you're still i mean the media you know you're doing everything on zoom it's really hard

to you know kind of form relationships and bonds with the people when you're just not in the same building but you know i still got a lot of buddies that that i played with that are still in there and and the guys rave about him and they talk about how smart he is and what i mean by that is like you don't really get to see that because a lot of the clips you see is you know him talking about the kneecaps and him talking about you know bringing real life to practice and wearing you know a nasa helmet to you know to do a press conference that's that's kind of the only clips that probably predominantly the most people see right so they don't really get to see the the football side of him what he's like in you know on the in the meeting room on the practice field um talking to the guys the motivation that he has uh you know to get the players to just

believe and buy into what they're doing i think that i think he's really he's going to come out of hard knocks uh i think a lot of people are really going to kind of change their mind maybe from thinking okay maybe he's just a meathead type of former player to understanding just his knowledge of the game and how smart he is. I think it's going to be good for him personally. Hey, Hard Knocks was great for us Colts fans to watch and follow along, and then they lost, and that's what Hard Knocks teams do, I guess, is they lose. So hate to break to the Lions.

I know this is going to be a surprise, but stats say you guys are probably not going to be good next year. Maybe you're right. It's not good. It's not good. It's not good. And maybe during Hard Knocks, they'll be able to pay Calvin Johnson to have a cameo in Hard Knocks, and then

he can pay him back his money, and then the curse is gone. You know, TJ? Yeah, I'm with you, man. I'm with you. I think there, from what I've understood, that situation has gotten a lot better. All right, here we go go that's good news i think it's improving okay that's good news go ahead ty tj i think it was on masters sunday you put up a picture of that sweet fucking setup you have in your garage uh how's the golf game doing and how much better at golf are you than aj

it's uh the golf game is it did it's second week april you know it's still a little rusty we're not there yet i played yesterday i'm telling you i don't know how the weather is down in indy but i think the whole midwest is going through like this cyclone type thing right now i played yesterday i swear to god it was probably 50 mile an hour wind yeah oh yeah yeah it's been breezy like what are we doing out here? This is just insane. My kids were off school, so I figured I'd go drink some pops at the golf course. Golf game

isn't doing great, I would say, but it has improved since the last time I think I played with AJ. Gosh, it's been a while. I used to be the type that could never break 100. I just wanted to go out there and drink as many beers as possible. I started focusing a little bit more.

I put the simulator in and started grinding a little bit more out in the facility, I call it, out in the garage. So we shaved a couple strokes, but I'd say it's pretty average, pretty average. I'm usually high 80s, low 90s type of golfer. So I think right on par with AJ, actually. We'd probably make a pretty interesting match. I've never broken 80. I can shoot 88 and I can shoot 105.

So that's my game. It's the window. You play hard courses, though. You play all those PGA courses. What's that one down there in Columbia? Muirfield, whatever it is? Is that Wexner's course? Yeah, I think that's Wexner's course. That's that one down there in Columbia? Muirfield, whatever it is. Is that Wexner's? Yeah, that's Wexner's.

That's where they do the Memorial Tournament. It's a really nice course. I usually play about once a year. You've played Augusta before. How'd you play at Augusta? I have not played at Augusta. I walked around Augusta for a while. He got invited. He got invited to Augusta. Lost his friends. No phones. I'm going to walk around alone with a mask on. That was... what a time.

We got to do that again. Whenever you make the decision to stop getting fucked up on a golf course and actually golfing though, big decision in your life. I had to go through similar decision makers. Like I've, you know, I play pretty good when I'm like, you know, real boozed up. I wonder how, what I would be like if I was actually trying. And then you meet some people that are like the super golf addicts and they're like, no, we drink after the run, man.

We drink after the run. Come on. Let's get through this thing. And I'm like, those people are fun to play with, though. None. Worst experiences of my life. Yeah, I'm never doing it. I play with serious guys.

Like for me, there's I found out and I've got a lot of experience. I found out that there's like a sweet spot for me. It's between probably five and maybe seven. Like IPAs is right where I'm hitting my sweet spot. Anything lower, I'm a little tight. Anything a little bit over the eight mark, I just get way too goddamn loose. What's that, like the front nine? Yes.

Have a Bud Light, TJ. Jesus Christ, mix it in water, too. We got six IPAs, you're drinking six mules of alcohol. Jesus. We always reevaluate after nine. So if I hit the halfway house, that number could go up to 10, 12. It could kind of stay right at six range. Depends on how we're swinging.

Did you hear him say he's focusing on the game a little bit more, not just getting boozed up? Six IPAs. Yeah, that's easy. This guy is awesome. Is that a lot? Yeah, I understand. Yeah, I understand. I think. No, no. easy. This guy is awesome. Is that a lot? I understand. I think, no, no.

That's almost one a whole. IPAs. My God. Dude, whoa. Gosh, yeah, that didn't sound good. You know, after I got my public intoxication, the NFL sent me to Chicago.

I had to meet with all these psychologists and and psychiatrists and they had to deem my level of addiction or whatever you know and they ask you like so how many nights a week do you have a drink or whatever and i'm like well is this off season or in season you know and they're and i'm like trying to be as truthful as possible because they're going to ask you the same questions like seven different times at different angles so i said like i don't know like three nights maybe i'll have a drink or something like that then they start doing the math in front of your face boom you know three nights is 12 nights a month that's almost half a month and then you know half of your life you are spent intoxicated like how do you feel about that's what we just did to

you so i apologize it was quite a moment for me i assume that's what's happening for you right now as well you're you're preaching to the choir buddy we uh oh boy i better not say anything aj talking about um yeah i actually similar not you know as you i think very public knowledge what happened with you back when you're youth right i think you're a different man but i also had to go through something similar and it was it was pretty funny because the guy was like, you know, on a regular night, just say you're just out. Oh, yes. How many drinks would you have? And it was like, you know, one to three, four to six, you know, seven to nine, ten plus.

And I'm like, well, I can't say ten plus. Like, let's just go with the three to five. And the guy kind of looked at me and was like that's extreme and i in my mind all i was thinking was like good thing i didn't say fucking 10 yes yeah yeah i didn't say that man i don't know where i would have been after that one but yeah we had pretty that was back in our youth we had a lot of fun yes very dumb very dumb too much too much we had very similar thought processes for all the answers it sounds like yeah it sounds like we had very similar

because i was asked that same question yeah and then they had this whole recall portion at the end you know to see how much brain whatever and they're like uh you scored the highest on that was like what's the next in this pattern and everything i was like oh thanks and i looked at who had had to do this in the past it was like that was not a compliment i was like, oh, thanks. I looked at who had to do this in the past. It was like, that was not a compliment. I was like, yeah, of course, nobody, you know, whatever. It was quite a scene, but we're much better. I would like to let everybody know who's potentially

partying every single day of your life. Although you're having a good time, whenever you decide to become an actual human, it's not a bad time either. Just something to think about out there. Ain't that right, Teej? Positive Friday. It's it's preaching to the choir buddy that's a good sermon right there i like it yeah i had to go 27 months of absolutely nothing in the substance of abuse program getting drug tested eight times a month that was the worst i'll tell you that and i was like all right i'm

gonna change for the better here uh go ahead connor yeah tj at this point like how much uh more studying do you think teams are doing like do you think they know already who they're gonna take or at least have like a top five in case one of their guys gets taken before their pick yeah i would imagine right now the guys are probably teams are locked in at least in the top five you know um probably have a pretty good idea of who's gonna to be there, who they want. I mean, you always see a couple surprises every year, right? There's probably going to be a team that trades up into the top ten,

maybe because, like look at Kayvon Thibodeau. I mean, you see mock drafts with him going maybe one or two, and then you see him falling out of the top ten, right? Maybe there's a team that sitting there at 14, 15 says, shit, look, he's still there at seven. Let's go get our guy. But I think as far as like the top five goes, teams by now are pretty locked in, I would imagine.

You know, they've been working on this for, you know, probably a year and a half, right? I mean, Kayvon Thibodeau was, he's kind of the weird one because you go back like 18, 20 months ago, and it was like, as soon as this guy's eligible, he's the number one pick, right? And then this time of year, it's kind of like nobody really knows. I don't know. It seems like you might have some, I don't know, mental issues.

I don't know, arrogance. The guy's a hell of a football player, so a lot of that could be smokescreen as well. But I'd like to think like the Lions, I mean, if they're not able to draft or trade out of that number two pick, like they probably already have a guy in their mind that if he's their number two, that card's getting turned in right away. Teach, when you look at these old linemen coming out of college, is it harder to evaluate or is it harder for them sometimes to come in and get in with an NFL system because of how weird the college game can be at certain schools and their wide splits and never running the ball at times? Yeah, I mean, it felt like college was going through a phase there maybe like five, six years ago where everything seemed to be spread offense.

You know, every team was throwing the ball 50, 60 times, you know, a game. And it was just, I think there was a lot of questions. How are the offensive linemen going to handle being a three-point stance coming off double team, right? It's the inside, outside zone. You just didn't really know. But the offensive line is such a unique position where it's just universal, right? I think when you go from high school to college to the pros, a lot of the techniques are pretty much the exact same.

Your footwork is the exact same. Your hand placement is supposed to be the exact same. I think for me, the bigger question is for guys kind of like myself who came out of smaller schools, didn't have a ton of reps against high-quality prospects. high-quality prospects. For me, those guys have more question marks because how are they going to be able to adapt their technique to NFL players? Because a lot of these guys, like Trevor Penning, for instance, Division I double-A kid who's projected first-round-type tackle, he probably could get away in college with bad technique

and just toss the dudes all over the place. How quick is he going to pick up on NFL technique knowing that, okay, you can't just do that. And he probably could get away in college with bad technique and just tossing dudes all over the place, right? How quick is he going to pick up on NFL technique knowing that, okay, you can't just do that. You're not going to muscle, you know, any NFL defensive ends out there. So I don't think there's a huge, you know, worry about offensive linemen when it comes to playing the spread or anything like that, pass protecting. Because that's usually a position that translates. You know, Evan Neal is going to be a guy that translates from Alabama to the NFL. Iki Okonwu, like he's going to be the guy, his game is going to translate to the NFL. So I don't think, it's probably a hard position to at least, you know,

kind of gap out somebody's ceiling, how good they're going to be. But when it comes to technique and fundamentals, how good they're going to be. But when it comes to technique and fundamentals, I mean, it's pretty universal. So I don't think there's really a huge concern, at least not with any of the top five, six guys that you kind of see in the mock draft so far that are projected to go early this year. Do all the guys in the NFL have pretty much the perfect technique? Most of them, yeah, the best ones do. I mean, like, you know, A.J aj one of our teammates josh sitting i mean the guy was absolutely incredible and he made it look so easy too you know like every rep i felt

like i had to scrap and fight my ass off to win and you're watching film and josh is over there just like lockdown it just it looks so easy but so easy, but you look at the footwork. You look at the hand placement. You look at, you know, just the general IQ. Like, those are the best players, the guys that have the best technique. Another guy we played with, Chad Clifton, a longtime left tackle in Green Bay, had one of the best pass sets I've ever seen. You know, his kick slot was absolutely crazy.

Let's see it, man. Let's see it. Come on. You got to drag that inside foot, though, too. You don't want to pick that foot up. What's that, dude? What's that, bro? Hey, fuck you. I'll call you. All right. All right.

Hey! Wow. Did you see that? That's a sack, I think. That's a sack. What? Probably from the other side where the fuck you're blocking at. Watch who fucking blocked your gun. All right.

That's turning that corner pretty easy on you there, Vickie. No, Aiden Hutchinson tried. We ran inside. Cam Hayward did the same thing. We ran inside. I mean, it was... I'm two plays, 30 yards.

At least. Average. Run. No big deal. Left tackle. Are you showing us how big your house is? Is that what you've been doing

this entire time? Your house is gorgeous. No. You can't even see my house. I've seen a lot of your house. Very opulent. The wainscoting is beautiful. I'm at home with the kids, so I'm making sure they're not

messing anything up down the living room here. It's smart. It's a really nice house. You deserve that. Custom crown molding, it looks like. They don't even understand how nice it is. Oh, what the hell is that? That's a champion chandelier. Champion. Champion chandelier right there in the round room.

In the round room there. Beautiful house. Is that the Oval Office there at T.J. Lange's house? Oh, wow. Green Bay Oval, T.J. Talk a little bit about more A.J.'s house. I heard he's got a bookcase. Oh, he has that bookcase.

A.J. Hall. He has a cult. He had a cult gathering at his place. And nobody, like, it was. With the Ferris wheel. It was unbelievable. Yeah, a whole carn bookcase. He has a cult. He had a cult gathering at his place. With a Ferris wheel. Yeah, a whole carnival happened at his house. It's unbelievable. Sacrifice the goat. Good for you, AJ.

You deserve it, bud. You do, AJ. TJ, number five overall, dude. Number five. TJ! Wow! Wow! I believe you're on the water, too, TJ.

At least one of your kids is a stud hockey player, right? Yeah, my oldest. He's a pretty good hockey player. Oh, maybe he'll be a champion and a penguin. Hopefully he doesn't go to the wings. Oh, no, he can't see it. It's white out. Son.

Flip the camera. Youth hockey is crazy, though. I don't know if you guys played hockey growing up. It is absolutely insane. The best. I mean, from, like, the competition level for 10-year-olds is, like, absolutely nothing. You know? So I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around everything.

But it is a—if your kids grow up, you guys have kids, have sons, I would—hockey is a very, very tough sport for parents. A lot of travel. Yeah, CFO Phil. He's got Lil' Phil. And, by the way, Lil' Phil's a fucking player. He's player he's been traveling a lot with little phil he's in the full hockey thing he just made some select team elite team oh i forget what the name of it is something they're gonna be traveling even more he's very very good that's big time yeah it's big time you have triple a programs you have house programs you have regular i mean it's just absolutely insane but

it's crazy though like competition for 10 year olds you go to like a 10 year old baseball game and it's like oh it's okay try again next time like 10 year old hockey is you like you you feel like you're sitting at a freaking minor league game like like it's going nuts it's absolutely insane it's just a total different level of competition for kids well we go nuts every time you come on because we get a tour like we're in Zillow, and you've done great. We get some great – Oh, shit. That's chandelier room.

Oh, my God. You can Airbnb that thing for multiple thousands of dollars. If you want to do some good photos, some fisheye lens, you can make that thing a ballroom, which it looks like it already is. We appreciate you so much for joining us, man. Have a great weekend, everybody. Always good to talk to you, fellas. You too. Happy Easter, Bob.

You too. Take care, guys. See you, Age. See you, Teach. See you, Teach. See you, Teach. See you later, Teach. His house is sweet. Unbelievable. He's been showing it on social media.

I don't know if he just built it or if he's just realizing how awesome it is. Because it is amazing. We are out of here for the weekend. We can't thank you all enough. You're the best humans on earth. Happy Easter. We'll see you all Monday. Bye.

Bye. You know what? I'm going to go ahead and get my hair done. so Thank you.