The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 644 - Shams Charania, Ian Rapoport, Elias' Younger Brother Ezekiel, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: April 18, 2022On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the USFL's opening salvo this weekend, the member of the Pittsburgh Maulers being released for requesting a slice pizza instead of eating the chi...cken salad being provided for the team, Denzel Ward signing a massive contract with the Browns with $71.25 million of guaranteed money, the national mask mandates for airplanes, public locations, and more being lifted, and they celebrate Boston Connor's birthday. Joining the progrum to chat about the NBA playoffs including the fallout from Kyrie Irving's rivalry with the city of Boston, whether or not Ben Simmons is going to play at all in this series against the Celtics, Zion Williamson's status as we continue to see monster dunks from him, and other injury updates is friend of the show, and NBA Insider for Stadium and The Athletic, Shams Charania (21:35-53:27). Next, NFL Network Insider and friend of the progrum, Ian Rapoport stops by after his week long vacation to chat about what is going to happen in the draft as we get closer and closer, if Kyler Murray is going to be anywhere other than Arizona, and what we should be expecting him to break next (1:08:44-1:30:40). Later, WWE Superstar Elias' younger brother, Ezekiel, joins the show to chat about the disappearance of Elias, his upcoming lie detector test on tonight's episode of Monday Night Raw, why Pat and Nick have never met Ezekiel when they know Elias so well, and what his relationship with his brother is like (2:00:36-2:09:13). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, beautiful people. It is Monday, April 18th, 2022.
Hope you had an incredible holiday weekend. This sports show begins right now.
Can't thank you enough for joining us here at youtube.com forward slash the iPad McAfee show.
There's a lot of news to chit chat about in the sporting world.
I hope your personal life went fantastic.
A nice weekend to sit around, hang out, chat with the family, chat with the friends, and hopefully reset
a little bit about what life is about and what
it's supposed to be about. Hope you all had
a fantastic time. There's big-time golf
news. Hey, Giorno!
Hey, Giorno!
Jordan Smith gets a big OT win where
he almost chips in to kind of put a dagger
into Patrick Cantley. There's big-time
basketball news. Playoffs are
happening. These games matter. There's big-time basketball news. Playoffs are happening. These games matter.
There's big-time football news because we're just 10 days away from the NFL.
13 was on Friday.
It was.
We're just 10 days away from the NFL draft,
and there's some smoke and mirrors potentially happening.
There's some movement on the odds on who's going to end up where.
There's a lot to chat about today,
and hopefully we'll get a chance to chat with you as well
on the 5-Hour Energy phone line.
1-833-4MAC.
If you go ahead and give us a call.
Oh, let's head to the Toxic Table.
Ty Schmidt, you look fantastic.
It was great to golf with you.
Hey, thank you.
It was great golfing with you as well.
A little bit windy, but, you know, we had fun out there, I think, for the most part.
And the wind was freezing cold.
We could tell it was a northern breeze coming in.
Oh, boy.
It was like a 30-mile-an-hour wind.
This is very real.
Now, we've had five fake springs here in Indiana where we thought it was springtime, and then,
boy, it is not.
While we were golfing on Saturday, it was gorgeous outside.
Yeah, beautiful.
Sun shining.
Felt good until the wind came, and the wind was like 30 degrees.
It was like, oh, this is a northern wind.
Something's coming.
It's fucking snowing today in Indiana right now.
It is April 18th, and it is snowing.
Hopefully, this is the last go of old fucking asshole Mr. Old Man Winter or whatever his name is.
Sure.
Because it's planting season.
It is planting season.
I mean, I don't know what this whole snow god thinks they're doing right now.
The boys and ladies out here need to start their planting.
That's right.
Need to get things going. We need to be knee high by the 4th of july and this fucking asshole comes and drops a little
snow party off we don't need that on this monday we will power through with some positivity because
we believe this is the last day of this terribleness and spring is right around the corner
and planting season although it might be delayed don't worry it will be fruitful there'll be
raining that'll come the sun will shine bright and by the 4th of July, you'll be way past knee high.
You'll be magical.
But this one last little spurt of cold is a bunch of bullshit.
Speaking of a bunch of bullshit, every other date but April 18th,
bullshit in your eyes, Connor?
Do you think this is the best day of the year?
I don't know about that.
Probably not.
I would say the best day of the year is opening day when the NFL starts
just because actually right before this show I was saying,
just watching highlights and thinking about betting on the NFL at any time touchdown score parlays that whole thing is so
much better and it doesn't help that I haven't had a bit and I think like two months yeah you
I've actually asked you for a lot of bets over the last five six days yeah I've lost a tremendous
amount of money because of everything you've been mighty sure about. But the good news is on this April 18th, April 18th, good day or no?
No.
April 18th's not a good day.
No, April 18th sucks.
Bad day.
Yeah.
Why is that?
Because the Boston Marathon's going on and I'm not there.
I mean, I should be running in it probably, but I'm not.
Boston Day on Friday, too, by the way.
The Red Sox lose.
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Red Sox are playing right now during Boston Marathon Day.
They're down five-zip or something.
Rich Hill's father, unfortunately, passed away
yesterday. He's out there pitching today. I mean, he's got
a lot on his mind right now, so
maybe give him a break. I think you should live bet him right now.
Rest in peace to Rich Hill's father.
Obviously, no fun at all, but also
Boston is letting down Boston, I feel like,
on a regular basis. We need to stop having
it happen. April 18th, though, just standard day?
Standard day. Paul Revere actually made his
ride on April 18th.
Remember, remember.
No, it's the 5th of November.
On the 18th
of April. I thought it was May.
No. On the 18th of April
in 75,
a man is now alive. Who remembers his
famous day and year? I forgot about it. Paul remembers his favorite day, famous day in the year?
I forgot about it.
Paul Revere.
Listen, my children,
and you shall hear
of the midnight ride
of Paul Revere
on the 18th of April
in 75.
Hardly.
Shouts Paul Revere,
by the way.
Shout out Paul Revere.
One if by land,
two if by sea,
and I on the opposite shore
will be ready to ride
and spread the alarm
through every
Middlesex village and farm.
That motherfucker was ready to do it.
Now, I think follow-up, that was all a bunch of bullshit, right?
Yeah, he's a scam order.
That was Mickey Mouse.
He just made it up.
That's Columbus.
What's that?
That's Christopher Columbus.
No, no, he did.
He's an Italian, by the way, so you need to...
Yeah, but I mean, the guy who spotted America wasn't...
So April 18th, just a basic day.
Same old, same old.
Okay.
All right.
Tun Diggs is here.
We're going to have the hammer.
Dad!
Cowboys, how was the weekend for you?
Gambling seemed to be fruitful, pal.
Not bad.
We took a bunch of windy, cold unders in baseball.
Those boys don't like swinging a bat when it's cold outside.
Trust me, I understand.
You catch one on the hands in that type of temperature.
It is not good.
And then, I mean, there was some bad news.
What's that?
Penguins are going to be tough.
I would feel penguins.
There's no reason to talk about that right now.
You asked how the weekend was, and it was a bad part of my weekend.
Yeah, there's a lot of other stuff that happened.
We could have just danced around that particular one. What does Tony mean, though? Well, the pens are dead. What? No. Yeah, hockey's a lot of other stuff that happened. We could have just danced around that particular one.
What does Tony mean, though?
Well, the Pens are dead.
What? No.
Yeah, the Hockey Docs also are dead.
What?
Never going to talk about it again.
Why are they dead?
Well, our goalie decided to break his fucking foot in a car accident.
Yeah, guy's playing goalie.
The next day he misses practice, and all of a sudden he's out, broken foot.
Now we've got a backup who can't see the puck.
No.
Yeah, so we're in trouble. Oh, man. Get the golf clubs ready. And all of a sudden he's out broken foot now. We got a backup who can't see the book. No
Man the golf clubs ready. Well, they'll borrow him from the fucking Redwoods
Now with that being said hockey talk also have a moment silence for hockey talk zine ever happened on this show again
All right, no, it's bad
Still Wednesday nights 8 p.m.
Yeah, I'm to be real fun now.
A lot of Bruins talk.
I'm just going to put my feet up and just enjoy the rest of what's left.
This could be Crosby and Malkin's last year, too, from everything Ropes has been saying.
Well, I recommend rolling fields.
Love that golf course in the Pittsburgh area.
Okay, thank you.
I mean, they're out of there, Fox.
Goalie, be the wrinkles.
Oh, they're getting the Penguins. Yeah, goalies definitely need your feet because you're I mean, they're out of there, Fox. Go away, Vitor. They're not sticking around.
Oh, they're getting the Penguins.
Yeah, you always definitely need your feet because you're on them, you know, the whole time.
You don't even get to sit down.
It is ice.
Tape them up.
It is fair.
I don't think I understand what you're saying because a broken foot probably hurts more in hockey than in any other sport, actually, because of the way those goddamn skates are.
I don't know.
Especially if you're a bender like Jari.
Well, the thing about it is his backup. I don't know. Especially if you're a bender like Jari. Well, the thing about it is
the thing about it is his backup
this guy.
Oh yeah, I saw.
Absolutely. Bruins scored two goals
in two minutes. Can we get the Zambone driver
from Canada, please
for the pens for the playoff run?
The attorney. We need to get math out of Minnesota.
That team stinks.
Get him out. Is there any though past trade deadline? There's no way. We need old Kaz math out of Minnesota. That team stinks. Trade, get him out. Is Ernie going to pass the trade deadline?
There's no way.
We need old Kazi to cut him.
Cut Marc-Andre Fleury so we can sign him to the pens.
Anyways, I don't want to talk about that.
Let's move on.
Thanks, too.
The USFL happened this weekend.
3.5 million people watched the generals take on the commanders,
and that was definitely something that I was a part of. I turned the game on. I watched the generals take on the commanders. And that was definitely something that I was a part of.
I turned the game on.
I watched the game.
I seen a terrible punt, god-awful kick, four bad throws.
And I said, all right, USFL is going to suffer from the same problems
that every other spring league has suffered from,
which is the players might stink.
Now, will they have enough time to find the players that make their team good
and some of the players that aren't as good maybe find their way out of the
roster at the starting?
Or is there not enough good players to run a spring league
that keep people captivated?
Now, you've got to remember the XFL had a million viewers per game there
for a bit until Uncle COVID came through the nacho bar at the Seattle Dragons
game and shut everything down.
It is awesome to see football back.
I think all of us just kind of turned it on because it was football.
But much like the Hall of Fame game, you get about three, four plays in,
and it's like, oh, okay, we're watching high school football again.
We're watching college football.
I'm very happy for these guys getting another opportunity to play semi-professional.
I think a couple of my old teammates might even be playing on some of these teams,
and I'm pulling for them.
I'm sure some of these guys will make their ways to NFL camps
or being on the practice squad or something like that.
I'm pulling for them.
But as a whole, that football is going to have to get much better.
There's some wide receivers that made some incredible catches,
but there's a lot of plays that you're kind of just drifting through like,
oh, these guys stink.
And it's not their fault.
It's a new league.
You have to have – in football, it's an entire team sport.
So if you have one terrible position, that can affect everybody else mightily.
But I'm happy football is on.
But for me, it's going to be tough to hold my interest, I think,
maybe going in next week.
Now, Pittsburgh Maulers were supposed to play yesterday.
That's right.
I turned that on to watch, and it was a behind-the-scenes clip thing.
And then we seen that a guy got fired
because he chose pizza over chicken salad.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay, and I like that the USFL is holding their players
to a goddamn standard, you know?
You're going to be respectful,
and you're going to eat healthy.
And that guy was like, well, I don't like chicken salad.
I was just hoping maybe for a pizza
because, you know, much better tasting.
And I'm 24 years old.
I can still do that.
I have pizza every single day of my life, whatever the case.
And they said, well, we heard you disrespect some people.
I just said yes to, is chicken salad going to be a problem?
Yeah.
I'm going to have that pizza instead.
He gets fired.
So I've seen that.
I've seen the entire thing.
Happy for the USFL.
I'm not sure the staying power, although there's really nothing much else on.
Whenever old football's on, it's hard not to turn on.
Yeah, it's the same deal, though. Like like sometimes during the and i feel so foolish now but during
the season we'll get one of those thursday night games that's a real clunker and it's like oh jesus
this fucking sucks and then you turn on something like yesterday and you're kind of juiced at the
start because it is football and then you watch you know like you said about a series and it's
like okay well i'm not doing this anymore i i think think, and this is not Paxton Lynch's fault, okay?
Paxton Lynch, okay?
Benny Claxton.
Paxton Lynch was an NFL quarterback for a little bit.
Sure, first-round pick.
Not his fault.
New offense, probably trying to learn some stuff.
Just one play.
I've had terrible plays in every single sport that I've played,
so if I was judged off of my worst play, I would be
bummed about that. With that being said,
the USFL's opening weekend,
we're going to be judging off of every single play
we see. I watched Paxton Lynch
make the worst read I've ever seen in football,
okay? Then throw one of the worst
throws I've ever seen in football, and that was
an interception, and they were already down like 21-0
or something like that. And that was Jeff Fisher's
squad, and it was hard to
decipher which teams are which.
Which is going to come with the territory.
But there is some fucking terrible football
out there. And they're going to have to figure that out.
Because
it'll become just like
college football. It'll just become...
If you want to captivate the NFL fans,
I think you're going to have to have a little bit better football. But it's early!
It's their first week. They're going to get better, Connor better football. But it's early. It's their first week.
They're going to get better, Connor.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's an absolute con show.
And I think this is why we talk about the draft the way we do,
because Baxter Lynch was drafted in the first round,
and now he's in the USFL making possibly the worst of all time.
I think you should maybe think about going to play quarterback in that league
just for a week.
One of these leagues would be a blast.
Just one game. Just one game. And this sounds like it looks so easy or whatever it's like there was a couple shots i saw where i felt like it was pretty easy read actually the entire thing
and it's like okay i like the different uh they have like a camera on the helmet i like that
used for replay not for the actual shot for replay, that's an added angle.
I like the drone for certain things.
And they had, I guess, the professional droners flying that thing.
That thing was flying around.
For the kicks, though, we don't need it.
Yeah, come on.
You made me sick, and I'm assuming the kicker had...
That's why they're absolutely terrible.
I mean, there's just a lot of things that they're trying,
which we appreciate, the chip and the ball.
Maybe the ball stinks.
Maybe that's why the quarterbacks can't throw them,
the punters can't punt them, and the kickers can't kick them.
I mean, there is something to think about.
Maybe the ball is a trash ball.
But as it goes on, we will continue to watch as much as we can.
Yeah, yeah.
I tried my best.
I even turned on that game last night that was, I guess,
postponed and canceled.
That game wouldn't tell you on.
Yeah, but they wouldn't tell you, like, I turned it on, and. They wouldn't tell you. I turned it on
and there's this behind-the-scenes shit going on
and there isn't
on the screen anywhere like, hey, game
has been postponed to tomorrow.
It just went into the John Madden doc
and I was like, alright, so what the fuck
happened to the game that was on the thing?
They're playing tonight. I'll watch tonight to see that Pittsburgh
team, see if they're representing.
Now, remember, the Pittsburgh team was the team that caught the guy
for eating pizza
over chicken salad.
That's right.
That's not very Pittsburgh.
No, it's not.
Okay, but I don't know
if they're taking on
the identity of the team
because they're all in Birmingham.
Yeah, that's a good point.
So I'm not Hermson sure
what the connection is
in teams purple
instead of black and gold,
but our high school
is purple, so who cares?
I hate it.
It was.
But, you know,
purple and orange,
that ain't the city's team.
Especially if you're going to cut a guy for eating pizza over chicken salad,
and the chicken salad didn't even have french fries and ranch on it either.
So, I mean, boys will probably get a win tonight if I had to guess.
We were talking about it kind of this weekend how the issue with these leagues
is if you got bad quarterbacks, you got a bad league.
It doesn't matter if, like, if you were playing in the NFL, if you had all the NFL rosters and you took the US bad quarterbacks, you got a bad league. It doesn't matter if you were playing in the NFL,
if you had all the NFL rosters and you took the USFL quarterbacks
and put them in the NFL, the NFL would potentially struggle as a league.
The quarterbacks are an issue, and if the quarterback is an issue,
it's not a good league.
That is so real because the NFL doesn't even have enough quarterbacks.
Exactly.
So the NFL doesn't even have enough quarterbacks.
They're trying to find new quarterbacks. The new quarterbacks that everybody said weren't even have enough quarterbacks. Exactly. So the NFL doesn't even have enough quarterbacks. They're trying to find new quarterbacks.
The new quarterbacks that everybody said weren't going to be quarterbacks
are all of a sudden becoming hot topics of being quarterbacks
because they couldn't have hit on any other quarterbacks.
The quarterback is the most important position in all of football.
And, you know, like the USFL, the XFL, the AFL, the FCF, the FFA.
Sure, yep.
All of them find that out, I think.
But if you have one good quarterback in the league,
you can put them on primetime every single week on most in care.
PJ, whenever he was at the XFL, Jordan Ta'amu.
Those are two best teams.
Those are two best teams.
Put them on TV.
You've got two good quarterbacks that can run offenses.
Other than that, you might as well just get a guy that can run
because the play is going to break down.
The offensive line is going to stink at least two positions on every single offensive line,
and you're able to run.
I think it was Jackson, Johnson.
I forget who it was.
Maybe Johnson was quarterback for the other team.
This weekend?
This weekend, yeah, for the game I was watching.
He scrambled for 55 yards on one drive, and it was like,
that would be my offense every single time.
Every single time because there's not enough to kind of put it together.
I think they trained for like three months, though.
Damn. They put it together. I think they trained for like three months, though. Damn.
They put it together a long time.
We can't be too hard, though, on Paxton Lynch or Shea Patterson,
who did have the two worst plays as quarterbacks this weekend
because they do play in Michigan.
And if you play quarterback in Michigan at a pro level,
you're going to be terrible.
You're right.
I didn't think about that.
I agree.
Cancel all pro football in the state of Michigan.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Was that going to be your team?
Were you thinking about hopping on board?
Like, hey, here we go, a Michigan pro football team
that's going to get a couple dubs.
Yeah, I was just hoping for a playoff win.
I've never seen one in my lifetime for a pro football team
from the state of Michigan.
I was hoping this would be the one.
Jeff Fisher coming in, good coach, I guess.
Backwards hat.
And now we've got these two quarterbacks that can't play quarterback.
They picked Shea Patterson, number one overall.
I get it.
He went to Michigan, so you want to bring the fans in, but he stinks at
quarterback. He stunk at Michigan, too.
The interesting thing about Shea is
he was
fucking terrible.
No offense to him.
This is just what we saw.
We assume that he wasn't set up
for success. Jeff Fisher probably didn't set
up for success or something like that.
We can give all the excuses he has.
New league, nobody knows who's on defense,
can't watch any film.
You don't know what system they're on.
I mean, there's a lot of excuses that Shea's probably
telling people or whatever.
But we have to remember that a lot of these guys
that are about to get drafted, to your point, Diggs,
next week, they're going to bust.
Yeah.
A lot of these dudes are going to stink so bad.
And I think that's why it's so
difficult to get behind the narratives of
the comparison. Oh, this comp
is this guy. This comp is this guy.
Somebody said Mike Renner,
formerly of the Bachelor,
and now a pro football focus,
who we like as a person.
Incredibly handsome. He said that
Aiden Hutchinson's more athletic than both of the
bosses or something like that.
So then obviously George Kittle quote tweets that and puts that out there
and kind of dunks on him a little bit.
But that's a real thing.
The comparisons, I can understand
whenever you just look at the measurements of them
or whatever, but to be a great NFL player,
there are so many good players that get drafted.
The best player that was at your high school
that made it to college, he probably fizzled out. But some of you guys who might have had your best player from your high school that went to
college went on to have success at their college holy shit this best football player i've ever seen
anyone in the sec you should see what they did in the sec they get the nfl they fucking stink
like that people just need to realize that there is a different level when it comes to the nfl
football game and a lot of these
guys getting drafted aren't going to be fucking worth a single shit and I think that's why a lot
of the old players George Kittle uh in this particular case us whenever we mentioned that
oh this guy's going to be Jared Allen it's like okay I mean Jared Allen's a Hall of Famer who
plays like 13 years chase people down that the mental thing about the the NFL is just so much
better than every other league and that's why the game is so much better than every other league.
And that's why the game is so much better.
And that's why the expectations that we're putting on these dudes getting drafted are basically insane
because I think 50% to 60% of them aren't going to work in the first round.
Second through seventh, that's probably like 75% to 80% of these guys ain't going to be worth a fuck in the NFL.
But here we are.
We're going to hype the shit out of these guys. You guys are going to be the next goddamn old pros. You guys are going to be worth a fuck in the NFL. But here we are. We're going to hype the shit out of these guys.
You guys are going to be the next goddamn old pros.
You guys are going to be the next pillars of the NFL.
Stats, which we all love, right?
Don't we all love stats?
Stats say these dudes are going to fucking stink.
That's what all stats say.
But it's great.
The draft is great for Hope, though,
because that guy that we do draft could be the next great player,
could be fucking Tom Brady in the sixth round,
Anthony Brown in the sixth round,
could be one of these guys that turns your franchise goes takes it up a level it's hope
is great i think the thing about it though is all the people that are pitching all the stats and
analytics thing just refuse to look at the potential stats and analytics of the goddamn like
how often these draft picks turn up to be anything because the stats and analytics on that one are
pretty one-sided this guy's gonna stink i guess out of like 35 quarterbacks drafted in the first round over the last.
From 2005 to 2017.
2005.
35 quarterbacks drafted in the first round from 2005 to 2017.
Only two of them.
Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers still on the same team.
Yeah.
It's absurd.
It's something to think about.
So whenever you draft whoever, let's have realistic expectations
on these young bucks.
And with that being said, I hope these young bucks also have realistic expectations of what league they're going into.
Because I think all this hype can kind of make people forget, like, hey, you're about to be freshman in college again.
You're about to go fucking be carrying bags here in a second.
It's quite a leap.
It's quite a jump.
And the expectations just don't seem to be real. Well, it's like what's we see happening with these qb contracts
like even you hit on a guy like kyler or lamar jackson and then there's a chance that in the next
three four five years after you draft that guy that he's going to ask for a massive contract or
ask for a trade like it goes to your point about the you know 2005 to 2017 qb is like
deshaun watson what, two, three years ago,
you would have never thought that he wasn't going to be on the Houston Texans.
I mean, I guess personally with Brady, it was the same thing.
It was like, oh, man, he's never going anywhere,
and I'm sure Seattle thought that about Russell Wilson.
It's like there's so much parity now where it's like, okay, well,
if I'm not happy and my team's not at least helping me out
and putting weapons and O-linemen to help the quarterback, then there's a chance he's like,
you know what, fuck it, trade me.
I don't want to play for you guys anymore.
And then you've got to start that entire process over again.
And that's just if those guys are good, let alone if there's a higher likely chance
that they're going to stink.
Like Matt Jones just being able to fall right in and play well, what a gift.
So lucky.
What a gift to the New England Patriots fans.
I was saying to Bruce Brown,
I don't know how you do it.
I don't know,
because it was 7-9 season with Cam Newton.
I want to rip my eyes out every day,
and this kid's a fan of the Giants.
His life fucking sucks.
How does he do it?
Foxy.
Think about Foxy.
Foxy.
Oh, my God.
No hope.
Every single year.
He's got a USFL team every single year.
We just got a tweet from somebody named Shane Falco on Twitter.
Don't believe it is the Shane Falco.
Not 100% sure if it's a replacement.
Said this isn't all on Shea Patterson.
The offense coordinator for the Michigan Panthers is a clown.
That's what I'm saying.
There's enough excuses to go around for everybody.
Everybody's going to have a reason on why they're not doing great.
They're all valid.
There's a reason why people make excuses because they legitimately feel as if that is why good shit didn't happen.
It just feels like there's going to be a lot of that through that USFL,
and it's not their fault.
There isn't a plethora of great quarterbacks that aren't either on a college roster,
so you can't take them, or on an NFL
roster, three, four deep right now.
There's just, you've got Connor potentially playing quarterback for somebody, and that's
the most important position in the goddamn game.
Here's why the NFL's dominant.
This room, we wouldn't know about it because our teams are the top four, I believe, in
the last 22 years or whatever in wins.
Pretty sweet of this room.
Pretty cool.
So we love watching NFL football.
It's almost like we did that on purpose.
Like, hey, you guys, behind the screen, please.
But Foxy still loves NFL football,
and his team hasn't won a playoff game when he was alive.
It's because the sport is so goddamn good.
Speaking of a sport that's good,
joining us now is a senior NBA insider for the athletic in the stadium,
a man who will break down all the information like,
why is Zion not fucking playing?
Come on.
Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the show, Shams Sharani.
Hey, boys.
Yo, yo, what's up?
What's going on, guys?
Shams, it is great to have you back.
You look fantastic.
Did we get a little bit of a haircut, huh?
Tighten it up for the spring?
I actually need a new haircut.
Probably, you know, I try to get one every week. So I'm trying to new haircut probably uh you know i get i try to
get one every week so i'm trying to be like you you know keep the the fade fresh so i see your
your fade is very fresh right now so i'm trying to i'm trying to get on that level right now thank
you i appreciate that we're trying we're all trying to keep up with you i have gone much
shorter with the hair though i was going long with a big uh what's that called like a uh poof
yeah yeah the one of those things i was thinking about doing that but my head's so large in the morning routine became too long so i just
said cut it down short you know what i mean shams i hear you i hear i'm going a little longer right
now but you know we can talk grooming all day you know pat we can talk about grooming well let's
talk about lunch instead you know what i mean you love lunch yeah hey shams we know you love lunch
uh no let's dive into this so we we'll talk about Kyrie in a second,
about potential fallout of him being fucking awesome.
Hell yeah.
Awesome.
Might be my new favorite basketball player of all time.
Yeah.
I think between him and Zion, it's like 1A, 1B.
I feel like on this show, at least, you know,
as far as everything Kyrie's been through this year with the whole vaccination stuff
and, you know, him not playing full-time until January.
I think this is going to be something like 15 years from now
we're going to look back and probably what the hell was going on.
I concur completely, and we'll dive into Kyrie in a second,
but let's talk about 1A1B Zion Williamson.
So now there's reports coming out, and I don't know if they came from you or not,
so I apologize for this, that Zion and the Pelicans feel differently on whether or not he's ready to play.
So everything we've been saying this entire time is Zion putting videos out saying,
hey, if I can do this, and if I can do this, I can play.
Are we in a standoff right now?
And I think the Pelicans need him, right?
We're in a big time, hey, let's go Pelicans.
Let's go win some games here. I don't know if standoff's the right word i think i think
he hasn't played all year and i think you know i i came on this show we spoke we've spoken about it
there's just never been an expectation even when he came back from portland he spent two months
rehabbing in portland uh you know jj reddick you know the know the great JJ Redick he makes some public comments
on then comes back to New Orleans and then he started to ramp up but it was a very slow ramp
up right like he was doing a lot of one-on-one stuff very light shooting not even really jumping
and I I think you know I I reported on it and I think something that a lot of people can concur
with at the time was he was not expected to return.
And then the very next day, there's that video of him doing that, whatever it was, under the leg dunk that, you know,
there's probably only five, six players in the league that can successfully do to that capacity.
And that dunk would have won the dunk contest.
Like for him to do that off a fractured foot, obviously his perspective, and it's clear,
his stepdad came out and spoke about it in local New Orleans radio.
They feel like the expectation is he should be playing, that Zion Winston even believes that he should be playing.
That's a big deal, right?
Zion, because people have been thinking that Zion has been saying, no, I can't play.
I believe JB actually called him a bitch-made cat.
He did.
He said he was soft for this because he didn't want to play, but he's posting dunks that's not the case like we've been saying zion wants to be out there
let's go yeah i mean his stepdad went on the record about it like that that i expect him to
play and if you had zion if he if you would want to play his answer would be yes too but but again
and i i've said this i've said this to to you guys for the last couple weeks there is going to be a
process that comes into play,
especially when it comes to a guy like Zion, who's dealt with this foot injury.
And the process has been, they want to see him play extensively five on five for
an extended period of time and make sure that he's not dealing with that soreness in his foot.
And another thing, guys, that is going to play a factor in all this is conditioning as well.
He has not gone in an NBA game and played since last season.
What is it, April of last year, May?
It's been a while.
And so for him to just be thrust in a game right now in the playoffs, in a play-in situation,
I just think it's something that is untenable for him.
I don't know if the – clearly the franchise doesn't want to clear him for that.
So there is this push and pull with them.
But I think a lot of it is to do with the cautiousness that they want to operate with.
It's just hard for me to see Zion missing the entire year
and then playing in the playoffs.
And getting a triple-double.
I still don't think there's an expectation that he's going to play this year.
He'll go out there and probably get a triple-double.
We're all bummed about it.
I do like the fact that he has come out.
I guess his people have come out.
And his stepdad has been very close with him his entire time, right?
His stepdad and he, business-wise, very close.
I think always have been, always will be.
He's come out.
I like the fact that they've come out and said, no, we want to play.
Because there were some narratives getting out that he was holding out
and trying to make it difficult.
But that's not the case.
Thank you for clearing that up for us.
Oh, Sham Sharani.
Let's move to Kyrie Irving.
Kyrie Irving gave one of the best answers I've ever heard in my entire life
after interacting with fans for an entire game.
Now, not only did Kyrie Irving drop some gems on the court
with middle fingers and flying, but this post-game press conference
where he explains how I feel should be standard code of conduct at all sporting events
in the state of competition. I hate when I hear players, it happened in golf, I think it's
happened in basketball, when players ask security to get somebody kicked out for something that they
said. I fucking hate it, mostly because I enjoy the banter between fans and if some drunk wants to say something a professional athlete who
might be a natural shit talker should be very much okay to say hey what's up is that your son
and fucking bury it like I believe that thoroughly as a shit-talking human like I think that is
something that should be more accepted and it's not I guess always players are kind of deemed
unprofessional
and lack of class when somebody is literally four feet away from them saying something
terrible about them and rather than just breaking their entire face which you could do as any
professional athlete saying something back or telling them to go fuck themselves like i don't
know why where we went wrong with that here's kairi's entire answer. I can't wait to hear what's next, though, Shams.
It looked like there were a couple times where you gave the fans the finger.
I'm curious, was there anything that you thought crossed the line today,
and are you the kind of guy that gets motivated by kind of going back
and forth with the fans?
Do you kind of use that internally as something to fire you up?
Look, I mean, I'm just, where I'm from, you know,
I'm used to all these antics and people being close nearby.
You know, it's nothing new when I come into this building,
what it's going to be like, but it's the same energy they have for me,
and I'm going to have the same energy for them.
And it's not every fan.
I don't want to attack every fan, every Boston fan, but, you know,
when people start yelling pussy and bitch and fuck you
and all this stuff, there's but so much you can take as a competitor.
And, you know, we're the ones expected to be docile and be humble
and take a humble approach.
Nah, fuck that's the playoffs.
This is what it is.
You know, I know what to expect in here,
and it's the same energy I'm giving back to them.
It is what it is.
I'm not really focused on it.
It's fun.
You know what I'm saying? Like, again, where I'm from, to them it is what it is I'm not really focused on it it's fun you know what I'm saying like like again where I'm from I've dealt with so much so coming in here you relish it as a competitor and this is you know I'm gonna keep repeating myself when I say again
but this isn't my first time in TD Garden so what you guys saw and what you guys think is as
entertainment or the fans think is entertainment all is fair in competition you know
so if some somebody's gonna call me out of my name i'm gonna look at them straight in the eye
and see if they really bout it most of the time they're not 99 of the time they're not i'd assume
in sporting events what's next here him swearing at a press conference in my eyes awesome how you
keep it moving it's 2022 the internet is full this. And him getting into it publicly at an NBA game, especially the playoffs,
Nets, Celtics.
What's next for Kyrie, you think, Shams?
All right, so let's look at it right now.
I think, of course, there are consequences.
If you flip off the fans, you're going to get fined.
There was some language in the postgame presser that we just saw.
There was language by the locker room.
So the NBA's got to take all that into account,
and a fine will likely be coming before Wednesday, their next game.
But let's take a bigger picture view on this, right?
And obviously there's history with Kyrie Irving in Boston.
He left as a free agent.
He said he was going to resign, or the plan was for him to resign.
He leaves.
And last year in his return game, he had a bottle thrown at him,
and that fan was later arrested,
arrested, banned from Celtics games.
So there's obviously a very,
very tense history between Boston,
between that arena and Kyrie Irving.
So that is kind of the,
the bigger picture view that we have going into it.
And what happened last night, you know, there are consequences.
You know if if
kairi flips off the fans which is his right he's allowed to flip off the fans he's going to get
fined for it but i think you know what might have to even be a bigger discussion is like
what what is too far right what is too far for fans can fans just openly say whatever they want
and when they do like you said pat like players are also in their own right to do whatever they want the worst case scenario is if tyree were to actually get into something
physically with that with that person and that would be obviously you know that's not a good
scenario that we want to see you know then we'd have a repeat of um you know the mouse at the
palace uh with your pacers uh way back when so I think this is something Kyrie Irving,
you know, he's dealt with from stuff that I've been told he's been dealing with, whether it's,
you know, these over the top heckling fans, there's racial overtones at times, I'm told,
like, there are all these different facets that he's hearing that it's not just Kyrie, though,
like this is, you know, LeBron James, we saw a video of him pointing to security and getting a fan in Indiana tossed out.
See, I don't like that.
It's been going on.
And I know you don't like that.
And, you know, there's one, that's one method, right, where you get the security involved.
And I'm sure that's something that the NBA would love is get the security involved, get that person tossed out or whatever.
But Kyrie Irving clearly took it in his own hands.
And to me, there was no physical altercation. There was nothing that got out or whatever. But Kyrie Irving clearly took it in his own hands. And to me, there was no physical altercation.
There was nothing that got out of hand.
He didn't, he wasn't even really having banner
with the fans back and forth, at least during the game.
He was just, you know, you talk anything
and he was flipping you off.
But, you know, overall, I think how much is too much?
How much is, you know, for a fan to be sitting there and just giving
just normal fan banter versus actually going over the top with possible, like Kyrie said, F you,
calling him the B word, the P word, making racial remarks. And obviously Kyrie Irving responded to
that. So whenever you think about
that's what I got a bunch of tweets everybody whenever I said the sports world needs more of
this everybody's like well the malice in the palace the malice in the palace the malice in
the palace right this is what the NBA doesn't want well that started right because somebody
threw a bottle if I do recall just like what happened with Kyrie and then Stack Jack went
in there and said hey I don't keep it moving. Don't hurt one of my friends. And it became an absolute nightmare situation for Indiana, by the way,
for the Pacers, and for the NBA as a whole.
By the way, the Pacers might still be trying to bounce back from that entire thing
all these years later.
But whenever the difference, I guess, between the NFL and the NBA is,
the NBA fans are on top of the court, right?
I mean, they are right on top of the court.
I mean, Isaiah Thomas, you know, Isaiah Thomas,
the former Celtics guard, when he was a member of the Wizards,
he went to the crowd and had just a normal, I mean,
I thought a pretty genuine conversation with the fans.
There was a video that came out later.
So guys have gone to the crowd.
Russell Westbrook a few years ago, he got into it with some fans in Utah
where they had a back and forth, and then that fan got banned,
and Russ got fined.
So there have been moments where fans and players get testy
that it doesn't rise to the level of that.
Kyrie Irving obviously didn't take that approach, right?
He went the approach of more hand gestures.
But this is my thing, Pat.
As fans, as people watching from home, all we see is the middle finger, right?
All we see is him saying the comment to the fan
by the locker room,
which again, we saw what the fan said,
but we don't see what leads up to those middle fingers
and what has led up over the last year,
the last two years,
whenever Kyrie goes back to Boston,
in his mind is just these over the top heckling
that in his mind is not right for the game, right? And in his mind, is not right for the game.
In his mind, if you're adding racial overtones to it,
that is also something that he's going to respond like he did last night.
We are Team Kyrie here in Boston, of course.
Of course.
Of course, Boston.
So what has to happen here?
Adam Silver has to get up in a meeting and go,
all right, we've got to put a list together of what's okay
to say and what's not okay to say for the fans.
Asshole? Good.
Asshole, good.
Fuck you? Can't have it.
Sounds like can't have it.
It's iffy. We'll come back and fuck you.
What about the B word?
Bitch.
Bitch?
Bitch is loud, okay.
How about pussy? Yeah. Bitch is loud, okay. Say it on the radio. All right.
How about, oh, pussy.
Not a P word?
Yeah, I can't do it.
I don't think so.
Okay, so we're banning P word and fuck you thus far.
Put those signs in every arena.
Is that how they would have to do it?
Just be like a code fan code of conduct?
Because I assume that a lot of teams enjoy their atmosphere.
Like the Celtics fans being the way they are, like that is a benefit to the entire entertainment
of the game, I believe, and also to the Celtics.
Is there a way to combat this, you think, without making the places just turn into libraries?
Or how do you see this kind of going forward, do you think, Shams?
Yeah, I mean, I feel like this is a conversation we have every other year, right?
And even, like, what do you do? Do you come up with a code of conduct there is a code
of conduct from fans some fans whether you're drunk whether you're you know feeling a certain
type of way toward a player which clearly Boston is toward Kyrie whether you're just super you know
agitated super driven given the moment which I think both sides I think it's fair to say Kyrie
Irving we saw the energy that he had yesterday which obviously fueled his game i mean that's stuff that we all want to see from from
you know these these guys like we want to see guys be overly emotional and guys in in a good way in
a way that kind of lifts the spirits of games and i'm sure the ratings were were over the top
yesterday i'm sure that it'll just continue to drive the conversation for the next few games. So it's good overall for basketball. It's good overall for the sport when guys are
overly passionate about the game. But again, what's, what's the line? I like, like our fans
allowed to just go crazy and say, F you, you know, you're a B you're, you know, you're a pussy. Like
what, what is that line, uh, that, that, that you can cross if you're a fan um and there are there is a code
of conduct some fans just decide yeah but the code of conduct though the code of conduct though in
any true sports atmosphere kind of gets thrown out whenever you know things get after it and
kairi is booked as a heel in boston right and i i mean just as a wrestling fan like the entertainment
of him jousting verbally with the Celtics fans.
And then the way that game ends is like almost even better.
Like it is. It was beautiful. I thought it was great for the NBA.
That was one of the best games I think I've seen all year.
But yeah, I mean, that finish was crazy for Jason Tatum to make that layup at the buzzer.
It looked like Boston was going to win. Kyrie Irving makes that three pointer to put him up.
I believe 114 to 111 with 40-some seconds left.
That was the ultimate FU
moment, right? If you're Kyrie Irving, you go
back to the city. They're talking all this
to you, and you're giving the middle finger to people.
And you win. That
would have been the ultimate ending. Unfortunately, they weren't able
to win. And that was the game for them to
go steal, and they weren't able to do it.
But yeah, I mean, I think
over the next two days what's going
to happen is adam silver is going to have to find kairi ervin but i think from kairi's standpoint
from in his mind there should be a bigger conversation like it shouldn't just end with
him getting fined again that's his consequence you can't go out there and flip off the fans
and not have consequence but the other side is how much is too much well you know i mean kairi big conversation guy honestly big conversation guy i love just the fact that kairi is always kairi
and in that postgame pressure he could have handled that in a lot of different ways he could
have apologized he could have been aggressive in it instead he was just matter of fact like yeah
that's just kind of how it is man see you later by the way i haven't eaten or drank anything all
day today i had no water during that okay yeah so everybody can kind of eat shit i am uh i've become a big fan of just him
being his own human and i'm uh i've always loved that the nba playoffs have been fantastic good for
the nba go ahead ty sean's talking about zion but then you look at like and so it's good to know
that he actually does want to play what the hell's going on with ben simmons like we see the video of
him telling the reporter like hey make sure you get this i'm about to dunk like they
could have used him last night yeah basic ass dunk like can he is he working up to be able to play
like 10 minutes or if he's gonna play games four or five whatever is he gonna play the entire game
like can't he can't play at all right now i mean listen right now the goal is to ramp him up so
right now what he's going
through is this week i think what we're going to see is by the end of the week the goal is for him
uh for ben simmons i'm told to get in some five on five right and actually get bumped up get some
contact he hasn't done that yet he hasn't done that since june of 2021 where he's actually that
was last time he played in the game was eastern Conference 75s against Atlanta. He has not played like real NBA five-on-five contact since then.
He's obviously had his open gym run since last summer
and earlier this year when he was at Philly and wasn't playing.
But he hasn't gone out there and actually taken contact.
So the goal is let him get some contact before the end of the week.
Game three, I believe, is Friday.
And then game four
is monday next monday a week from now and i'm told that is the point where we should all start
looking to see if ben simmons will play or not the goal is for him to be back between games four and
six and we'll see where this series goes i mean they gotta win game two on wednesday if you fall
behind two oh what happens do you try to rush rush Ben Simmons back for a Game 3? Game 3 will
essentially be a do-or-die game. If you lose
Game 3 and you go down 3-0, there's not
really even a point in bringing Ben Simmons back.
Oh!
It's over.
I think
that they
are very confident that he'll be able to
make a return as soon as
next Monday.
I don't expect him to play full games.
I expect any time a guy
has been out since last June, I think the goal
is to ramp him up, whether it's 15, 20
minutes to start. But he's a guy that can play
a big role in this series. He's a guy that
can put on Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown,
Marcus Smart. He can play
legitimate minutes at any position
for them. He needs to stop
smacking the court so hard.
That's why his back is smacking the floor.
They would have needed, his defense would have been
welcomed last night.
I mean, geez Louise.
I think everyone just wants him to get
in a game. You know what I mean? I think we've
seen the videos
of him working out and we've seen all that
and I think
the difference that he can make in a
series, in this series, if he's able to
come back, I think could be a game changer.
He could be a game changer. How does he just sit
there though? How does he just sit there?
I don't know. I don't know a lot
of the new age
NBA dudes. Not that I knew a bunch of the old
age NBA dudes, but I did hang
out with a bunch of them. I don't think I know
this new age. How's he just sitting
there? He doesn't think he can play too?
This is like the Zion thing. It finally
came out. Zion wanted to play.
Ben wants to play. They won't
let him play. Is he self
report? Oh, the COVID.
Paul George. That's a whole other conversation.
I guess that was self report. People don't love that.
Although in LA, they should. LA, they should because he's looking out for the
entire world um but whatever ben is sitting there does he want to play like how that has to be a
weird i don't think i've ever met somebody that's competitive that is in a like a playoff situation
that can play that just kind of sat there and just kind of takes it. How's that whole thing go? Yeah, I mean, he wants to play.
The problem is when he got traded to Brooklyn,
he had a flare-up with his back,
and later it was revealed he had a herniated disc.
And any time you, you know, there's a herniated disc.
Obviously, that's something he's been dealing with for the last three years.
Okay, okay.
That makes sense.
That's not buying the herniated disc.
No, no, no, we hadn't heard that.
I had not heard that. He was not buying the herniated disc. No, no, no. We hadn't heard that. I had not heard that.
He was diagnosed with a herniated disc.
But this is an issue that he had a couple years ago in 2020 before the bubble.
And it is something that can flare up from time to time if you're not in tune with your body.
If you're not – he hasn't been on the floor since June 2021 in an NBA environment.
And so it flared up and he's been rehabbing his way back.
He got an epidural shot in mid-March, and the goal is to try to get him back on the floor.
The goal has always been that way.
And so now they feel like he's been going pain-free for about two, three weeks.
And so as long as he stays pain-free, there's really nothing that should be holding him back.
Two, three weeks geez is anybody pain-free for two three weeks at this stage of the nba season i mean
what a poor life in general it's just yeah yeah you're right at this point especially after sure
i mean covid yeah exactly whiskey yeah sean's what's the uh status of steph curry is he going
to be in the starting lineup at any point during this first
series or no?
I mean,
it's Steph Curry.
I would assume before the end of the series,
you work Steph Curry back into a starting role.
But I mean,
I think the Warriors have some decisions to make,
right?
Is,
is what do you do with Jordan pool?
He's played so well.
He probably,
he deserves to start.
So do you keep having him come off the bench?
Do you replace?
I mean, you're not replacing Steph Curry.
Was it Wally Pipp?
He's not going to be Drew Bledsoe of the NFL.
He's not just going to get benched for Jordan Poole.
But what do you do?
Do you bench Kevon Looney?
I don't think you're benching Andrew Wiggins on a max contract.
He still has great value for you defending the other team's best wing player.
So they're in a little bit of a tough spot.
But I would imagine the goal is to try to get Steph Curry
back in the starting lineup by the end of the series.
No offense to Wally Pipp, okay?
But Wally Pipp, pretty basic-ass baseball player, right?
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, he's not Steph Curry.
You just put him in the same thing as Steph Curry.
No, no, no.
But I was reading some of the banter. People were saying,'s not Steph Curry. You just put him in the same thing as Steph Curry. No, no, no. But I was
reading some of the banter. People were saying, oh,
Steph Curry's going to get Wally Pipped or Drew Fletcher.
Like you said, there's
no relation to that. These guys,
Steph Curry's a multi-time champion, multi-time
MVP. That's a whole other stratosphere.
I don't care how, even if,
you could see Steph was picking his game up
as the game was going on. There's a lot
of rust, and I think even Steph spoke about it.
Like he's going to be playing with discomfort the rest of the season,
most likely.
And so he,
he's a guy that's going to have to find his rhythm.
He's been out for a month and you saw him start to get that rhythm back,
but I don't care how bad Steph Curry was going to play.
He was going to eventually get that starting spot.
So I don't know if it'll be tonight.
I don't think game three.
I think right now the goal is let's try to get him uh if he's gonna have a minutes restriction let's try
to get him finishing games so that means finishing quarters so i could see a scenario where maybe a
game or two he's still coming off the bench but it's not gonna it's not gonna be a championship
uh run for the warriors without steph curry starting yeah it felt like he they were trying
to get his cardio back too right because they're up like 30 and he was still getting subbed in and they're like,
yeah, still trying to get his air back there. Good luck
to him. Can't wait to watch him. He's electrifying.
As is Giannis, by the way.
He's a monster. He's
a monster. But I think the whole
He fucking grabbed that off the
backboard dunk he sent to his alley-oop to
himself. That ball, any other human
is back at the mid-point. That thing
was flying off that just go go gadget
fucking down we go he is awesome to watch he's i mean he's a monster on the court i don't think
there's ever been a player like him 611 can run i mean people compare him to to shack you know the
old i think he's shack you know before shack just went completely dominant inside like he can handle
the ball he can do
everything on the floor and the crazy thing about Giannis they win the championship last year
and within a week you know there's not really a time off there's not really him going on vacation
within a week he's already back in the gym he's already back training and so that level of focus
I had some people around and tell me you know after he wins back-to-back MVPs this is a guy
that's going to go win MVP again this year.
I don't know if he's going to win, but he's a finalist again this year. Just his level
and his drive to compete
and win at the highest level,
I think he's everything the NBA is about right now.
I just got a little stat dropped
into my ear. He's 14-0 against the Bulls
too. It seems like he is
tough to stop. I saw Caruso eating elbow.
Oh my God. I'm a Bulls fan, by the like he is tough to stop. I saw Caruso eating elbow. Oh my god.
I'm a Bulls fan by the way, but
if they do, you know,
17-0 against the Bulls, I will
roll right to Milwaukee.
He is awesome
to watch. Giannis is awesome to watch.
I was listening to Chuck talk,
Charles Barkley, and he was like, he needs to
stay his ass inside.
I guess that has been a conversation piece, because he does shoot to three. He's able to shoot to three. Charles he was like, he needs to stay his ass inside. Because I guess that has been a conversation piece,
because he does shoot to three.
He's able to shoot to three.
Charles basically was like, his ass needs to go.
And then Kenny was even up on his little stand-up thing,
and he drew a line in the middle of the paint.
And he was like, this is where Giannis needs to just stay in here.
Why are they saying that?
And is that what they were saying?
Because he would just be the most dominant player of all time if he did that?
I think we all love to see players, and Giannis in this case,
be as dominant as they can be as much as possible.
And where is Giannis the most dominant?
It's when he's in the paint.
But I don't think it's realistic for him to always be in the paint.
He's got to keep the defense honest.
He's got to shoot that three sometimes.
And again, it's not like you're seeing Giannis shoot seven threes a game.
Is that a conversation that's happening, though?
Seven threes a game. Is that a conversation that's happening, though? Seven threes a game.
Is that a conversation that's happening, though?
Like what Giannis should do to play better because that's like the stage of basketball
he's gotten to?
I think, I mean, at this point, I think you let Giannis do Giannis.
I think he's earned that right.
But I don't know if you guys have noticed what you're seeing now from him.
He's got that like elbow fadeaway jumper that he never had consistently in
years past i want to see if he can make it in these big playoff moments but you saw it a couple
times yesterday where he's backing a dude down and in the past he's just going he's going to
keep backing you down and just tries to go for a dunk or or a finish or draw a foul now you're
seeing him back down and go with a turnaround fadeaway and i think that's the part of the game
that you're seeing yannis mature because as he's getting older as he gets into his 30s he's not going to be able
to continue to play this reckless abandoned rely on his athleticism he's just athletically so gifted
and such a you know greek freak that he can do whatever he wants on the floor um but to me it's
good as a basketball fan to see him continue to run out of his game. I think the NBA is a sport, a league, I'm sorry, that showcases growth.
Like, remember when LeBron got in and then he learned how to shoot
and then he got better at shooting and then he transformed his body?
Zion there, whenever he got in, he couldn't shoot anymore.
Then he learned how to shoot.
Giannis, I feel like when he got there, they were like,
five years from now he is going to be such a better player.
He was playing in a gym with like a rock, basically, before he got here.
And then now he's become so – he was electrifying to watch yesterday.
I enjoyed the hell out of it.
I'm like, oh, my God, I completely forgot about this guy
because we don't watch the NBA until it matters.
Hour two will be on the other side of this 10-minute break for SiriusXM.
We will see you then.
The conversation with Shams continues.
That was like really professional.
I hate that thing right on the
0-0-0 there. Next question,
Tung, go ahead. Shams, the game that led off
the playoffs was Utah
and Dallas, and I watched it, and it just didn't
feel like it had the juice, and that's because of the
untimely injury to Luka. Is there
a chance that he plays tonight, game three?
What are we hearing on Luka?
Because without him, it's tough to watch that Dallas team. Yeah it's it's it's tough and as much as i think spencer did
when he jalen brunson have it in them to make this a competitive series and they played competitively
i just without luca it's going to be tough um luca donchess will be out tonight in game two
and i think the period for him to possibly return will be game three in game four. I think he's going to be about 13 days or so
removed, or actually Sunday, so about a week. He's going to be about 11, 12 days removed from
the injury. And anytime you have a calf injury, especially the severity that he had, it's going
to be at least 10 days before you can even think about getting back on the floor. But I watched
some of the video from him shooting around on the court yesterday.
Unless he really ramps up over the next few days,
if he's not moving at even 80% capacity, 85% capacity on a calf strain,
it's just tough for me to see him even being out there in game three
because if you have a calf injury that is limiting you from even moving at 85%, 90% speed,
you're susceptible to further injury
elsewhere um you know the last thing you want to do is you want to rush a cap injury and that leads
to you know a worse calf tear or an achilles or anything of that sort so i think the mavericks
there's a fine line that they have to they have to balance between trying to win this series versus
also trying to protect luca longterm. So he's out tonight.
I think probably look at game three or game four as the earliest that he'll be able to come back.
All right, Choms.
We appreciate you, pal.
Thanks for keeping us in the loop with everything happening in the NBA.
Appreciate you guys.
Thank you.
Hey, tell Adam Silver, put that list out of what can be said and cannot be said.
You know what I mean?
I mean, listen, I think they have.
But you know what?
I don't think we've ever seen a player take Kyrie's methodology, though.
I'm just going to go with the middle fingers.
He's getting creative.
He's doing the double tap on the back of his head.
I think, yeah, there you have it right there.
So all we see is what leads up to that.
We don't know what these fans said to Kyrie that made him flick them off.
Flip or flick, where you're from, by the way.
There's two ways to look at it.
Kyrie, you either tell the security or you take matters into your own hands.
Hey, is it flip or flick off where you're from?
It's flick, flip, middle finger.
Pittsburgh, flick.
Indiana, flip. Flip off, got it when i've heard i've heard
everything i use everything interchangeably you know pat i try to be versatile a little bit well
absolutely because your culture just like me i came in and said oh that guy just flicked me
i got laughed out of a fucking barn what are you talking about excuse me you're like it's flip off
you flick somebody off i'm like yeah no you flip them off all right well whatever the case
i like that he did it as somebody who has flipped off a fan before i am a big fan of wait do we have
video of that do we have any pictures of that we need that we need that to leak online i was just
a punter i was just a punter you know but i'm okay with good conversation you know what i mean
and also sometimes yeah aj's got. He flipped off his coach.
I think in the world of competition, you want people to be passionate.
You want people to be involved.
You want them to be invested.
The players have to be, and then they're supposed to be able to just turn off
somebody saying something absolutely despicable to them,
that if they were to see each other in the street, they would never say it.
And if they did, they would be knocked the fuck out,
and then it's like the person
isn't even allowed to say something back.
It's just wild to me. I've never understood it,
but I've also never been in a position to
you know, it ever matter what I
say, because literally, 53rd man
on the team. So, here I am
just talking nonsense, but
Shams, you know everything and we appreciate you.
Ladies and gentlemen, senior NBA insider
for the stadium and athletics,
Sean Sharanya.
There you go, Sean.
This now is a man who's going to lose $20 million from me at some point in the next 31 years.
He's Super Bowl champion, college football national champion,
COVID survivor, Ryder Cup champion.
Hey, A.J. Hawk.
Hey.
How you doing?
A.J., how's your family, A.J.?
How's your family?
Everyone's doing well.
We had a great Easter weekend.
How about you?
Hey, we had a great Easter weekend as well.
We can't thank you enough for asking.
What'd you eat?
A little gabagool over there?
Did you have a little gabagool?
No, I did not.
Can you define exactly what that might be?
Ah, Jesus.
Come on, dude.
Come on.
Absolutely embarrassing.
Be a clown.
There's new listeners every day.
I'm sure they're wondering.
Matarata.
Uh-huh.
What do you say?
Gabu Kula.
The listeners know what fucking Gabu Kula is.
Cease, Connor.
Thank you.
Way to go.
Oh, it is.
I thought it was something else.
Oh, my gosh.
I thought it was like prosciutto.
No.
Prosciutto.
Jeez Louise.
Come on, Con.
Unbelievable. AJ, welcome to the show. Great to have you. Jeez Louise. Unbelievable.
AJ, welcome to the show.
Great to have you on this Monday.
Happy to hear that your Easter went fantastically.
Did you get a chance to see the USFL at all?
I did.
I watched it intermittently here and there.
I got to turn it on and see some good plays, man.
Did you?
You turned it on intermittently.
You saw good plays?
Unfortunately, though.
Unfortunately for the guys out there,
there's plenty of really good football players out there,
but it's when there's nobody at the game that was on yesterday.
You're playing on Eastern.
There's no one there.
I just feel like it's hard for people to really invest in it.
Listen, I got a lot of respect for all the guys still trying to do their thing,
and I like the fact that there's another league to give guys an opportunity
to showcase their ability or to keep playing football.
There's probably some guys in that league that are
very understanding that they're not going to make it into the NFL
but they enjoy the game so much.
They're getting paid for it. They keep playing.
So I got a lot of respect for everybody out there but
hey, I must have intermittently
hit that thing at a different time than you did.
I seemed a lot of bad.
Now listen, it is not their fault.
There's a lot of situations. It's a new league.
There's new everything.
But if you don't have a quarterback, AJ, it is tough to watch.
And that is a real problem.
Diggs brought this up in the first hour.
He said if you had the NFL and you took the USFL quarterbacks and put them in the NFL,
the NFL would struggle with ratings.
Like the NFL would actually struggle.
And I thought that was a very valid point.
Whenever you see like a terrible quarterback in the NFL,
the game's like, oh, this game stinks.
This game is bad.
That's all that's really available for these spring leagues
because the NFL's got what?
Three, four guys on a roster.
That thing's going to grow with futures and everything like that.
Then all these college kids,
they're able to go back to college for another year
because the COVID year.
So there is a lot of very, very, very, very talented quarterbacks
that are on roster somewhere and can't join in there.
There's probably a good quarterback in this USFL somewhere.
I'd assume there's going to be.
Just like P.J. was, just like Jordan Ta'amu was in the XFL,
and maybe the USFL will just put those teams on more primetime games.
But I didn't see them.
I didn't see it.
And there's probably great wide receivers out there,
probably great corners out there. Some guys will make it to the league. But I think as a whole from optically see it, and there's probably great wide receivers out there, probably great corners out there.
Some guys will make it to the league.
But I think as a whole, from optically watching it,
the quarterback play has got to be good.
And I don't know how you find good quarterbacks.
I'm being 100% serious, too, when I say that.
Well, also with football, though, I think the biggest reason we watch
is because we're invested in players.
We're invested in teams, meaning you're a fan of a team or a region or whatever.
How does the USFL get people to get invested in that team?
I don't know.
It seems like a pretty uphill battle.
Are they playing in Birmingham?
Yeah.
All the games are in Birmingham.
I believe so.
Maulers, other Maulers going.
Where do they practice and everything?
Birmingham's just packed out, I guess.
Yeah.
How long have they been in camp then if it just started?
I was watching this behind-the-scenes thing that was on instead of the Maulers game that I thought was definitely on,
and there was not a single thing on the screen that said, like,
hey, Maulers game delayed.
So I thought this was like a kickoff show of the game.
I thought maybe I was missing something.
I didn't even – because I was just turning on intermittently,
like you're saying.
I think somebody said 100 days.
One team, they broke down.
We got 100 days until we got to play. No way. Really? I think somebody said 100 days. One team, they broke down. We got 100 days until we got to play.
No way.
Really?
I think, yeah.
I assume they've been together for two weeks.
Me too.
And that's why when watching the games, I was like, give them a lot more like,
oh, it's okay.
They'll figure it out.
They'll figure this whole thing out, who's good, who's not,
what they should do, what they shouldn't do.
There's some bad football out there.
Hey, Paxton Lynch threw one of the worst throws I've ever seen in my entire life.
Terrible read, terrible ball, terrible everything.
And this was after he literally just was swinging a ball like this
and hit it off a defender so he could have a fumble.
It would go 20.
I mean, it was – there was some bad football that I seen out there.
And it's just – I don't know how it ends, AJ.
I honestly don't know how –
How many games are they scheduled to play?
Ten, I think.
I just read.
Are they all in Birmingham?
So Pittsburgh doesn't give a fuck.
You're using our name almost, as probably other people in Pittsburgh say.
They fired somebody because they asked for pizza instead of chicken salad,
I think, if I watched the clip correctly on the internet today.
Really?
Yeah.
Wait, fired someone inside the organization?
A player.
A player got cut.
Hey, sorry about it.
Nobody's above the team, man.
We're all fighting for the same goal.
There's no individuals here.
I guess that is something that every single person could say to somebody
that acts, I guess, in a way that is –
Set the tone.
Hey, you can't – don't be questioning us.
Is that what they're doing?
No, he's – though, the way the coach – can we find that tweet, please?
The way the coach laid it out, and he's the coach of the Pittsburgh Maulers,
and they were following them for a bit, and I was watching some of their clips.
The way he laid it out is like, hey, we don't disrespect anybody around here.
You know, like hotel staff.
It feels like that's what he was setting up.
And then when they presented this whole situation, the guy explained his side,
and it was because if he was going to get chicken salad,
it would have been a problem over pizza.
I think.
Here's the clip.
It's two minutes.
Let's ride the wave here.
John Peterson, personnel director.
Just met the guy.
Good morning, man.
Well, he crossed the line.
Okay.
So we had to deal with it.
This is very difficult for me as a head coach.
This is my first time, but we have a business. Okay. This is very difficult for me as a head coach, my first time.
But we have a business.
This is a business, and you're a businessman.
We all are.
Because I certainly need you in peace right now.
But when I first talked to you guys on March 22nd, I had a handbook.
I covered some items that were very important to me.
Line 46 addresses that.
Any disrespect to football or members, stafffl hotel etc would not be tolerated it's like 40 seconds my attention that has occurred with you so
unfortunately unfortunately hear me out unfortunately cost of doing business i'm not to let you go
i didn't think i did anything or said anything disrespectful.
I can tell you what happened exactly.
It's not important right now.
Right.
It's not important.
I don't know.
It's already happened.
Right.
It's already happened.
I didn't say anything disrespectful.
He said, is that gonna be a problem?
I said, yes.
I said, and I walked away.
I mean, I didn't think that was disrespectful.
Me saying yes, I don't eat chicken salad.
And I was like, is there another option?
Walked in with pizza, and I was like,
can I get a slice of pizza?
He said no.
I was like, he said, it's not gonna be a problem.
I said yes.
That's all I said.
I didn't say no cuss word, nothing.
That's all I said, I promise you.
No disrespect on my dad's life.
I promise you I didn't say nothing disrespectful.
He's done.
Yes. And I appreciate you sharing that, but the matter is, dad's life. I promise you I didn't say nothing disrespectful. He does. Yes.
And I appreciate you sharing that.
But the matter is, it's done.
Yeah.
It's done.
I appreciate your side, but... Good luck.
Man.
Sorry about it.
Someone's feelings hurt feelings
or a distant second to the greater good of the team.
And we've moved on and turned that page,
and I'm happy we did it.
Jeez.
Cold game.
Yeah.
God damn.
It's a cold league.
It is.
I mean, I wish there was some footage of this interaction here.
It's a cold league, yeah.
Whoever the staff member was.
It's a chicken ring.
In the USFL?
Yeah.
Back to that game, man.
Whose pizza was the guy holding?
Whose pizza was that?
Could we see the chicken salad?
Excuse me.
I don't eat chicken salad, all right?
I'm so sorry.
And was it chicken salad?
I don't do it.
I just seen a guy walk in with pizza.
I don't eat chicken salad.
Is that going to be a problem?
Yes.
I don't eat that.
There's a pizza right there.
He asked for one slice.
He's like, give me the box.
Hey, can I just get a piece of crust?
Imagine how... Donato's. Tiny Donato's. One slice. One slice. In the box, hey, can I just get like a piece of crust? Please.
Imagine how.
Donatos.
Tiny Donatos.
Can I get a piece of Lunchables maybe?
Please, can we think about what the story was told from the person that was selling the chicken salad.
Giving the chicken salad.
Because that's the person that obviously ran up the pipeline.
Listen to Deveon Smith.
This motherfucker.
I read that handbook.
What was line 46, coach?
What was line 46?
Fucking respect everybody.
How about the chicken salad guy?
That's me.
I asked him,
do you want chicken salad?
He said, no,
he doesn't eat chicken salad.
I said, all we have is chicken salad.
Then he had the gall to tell me that he seen
somebody walk in here with a fucking pizza. I said, while we got chicken salad, you had the goal to tell me that he seen somebody walk in here with a fucking pizza
i said is she while we got chicken salad you have a problem he said yes and then he he flexed on me
and then he walked away like imagine that side of it oh the deed has already been done i don't
like chicken salad i feel for him i don't like chicken salad i think it's chicken salad like
with lettuce or a chicken salad like macaroni and potato salad?
Like that type of chicken salad.
That's what it sounds like.
Mayonnaise-based.
Mayonnaise, fries and grapes.
I think it's probably the mayonnaise-based chicken salad.
Really?
I think I'd prefer the pizza over the chicken salad, too.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, you might just want to spend like 15 bucks and door dash yourself something next time.
USFL, dude.
All right, we don't know what they're paying.
Remember, some of these leagues in the past
didn't pay until the end of the season.
Remember, those guys got caught up in the fucking hotel
with the bill.
Expenses, yeah.
What was that, the AFL or whatever?
They got caught with the bill at the end of the whole thing.
Yeah, I had some buddies playing.
What was it back when they had a team in Nebraska?
Nebraska.
Nebraska.
Remember whatever that UFL was?
The inaugural Joe Paul League. AAFL. Nebraska had the... Hold on. What was the first one that – UFL was. The inaugural Joe Pollock.
The AAFL.
Nebraska had the –
Hold on.
The first one I was back in the day, there was a lot of former –
Yeah, the UFL.
There was a lot of former NFL players that were good players that were in there.
Matt Overton was on that.
He played with Maurice Claret, I believe.
Yeah.
Maurice was there.
Kato June was playing linebacker for something.
Like, there's a lot of big-name guys out there.
My buddy Spence Havner played out there for a while, and he was –
he would text me through.
I was like, yeah, man, we're just hoping to get paid.
We've been here for three weeks or something.
It was stuff like that.
Yeah, there's always some back-end business fuckery
that's going on in these leagues.
That's why the XFL was so impressive,
because it felt like with Vince's backing
and the way Oliver was running it,
they had all their ducks in a row.
People were getting paid.
They had their own facilities.
They had stadiums.
They had things sold out. They had deals with three different a row. Like, people were getting paid. They had their own facilities. They had stadiums. They had things sold out.
They had deals with three different networks and everything like that.
That's why I think everybody had hopes for the XFL to work because of, you know, if you have every TV network backing you, basically,
and an actual bank account that is public knowledge because, you know, Alpha Sports or whatever was the company that created it,
and everybody knew exactly how much money was put in there,
basically because it was a public thing from Vince.
It's like, this one, I'll be real interested to see how it pans out.
So it's only games in Birmingham?
So I did some reading.
Training camp started March 22nd, so they've been there almost a month.
So 100 days is not accurate at all.
Maybe that's when the championship is.
And in the video he said,
I talked to you guys the first time on March 23rd or whatever.
Every game is in Birmingham, except for when
the playoffs start, they go to Canton.
Wow.
So the same people
go to that Birmingham show every single
game? That's a good question. Yeah, and I
assume they kind of dwindle as
the week's going on. You just got to hope you got your diehards
that really fell in love with the sport. They're just playing
back to back to back to back? You got to invite every elementary school in theards that really fell in love with the sport. They're just playing back to back to back to back.
You got to invite every elementary school in the state pretty much.
That's what I thought.
Here is a picture of chicken salad in Alabama.
That looks pretty good.
Does it come with the croissant?
Oh, if it came with the croissant.
I don't like the grapes that are in it.
This is from a restaurant in Alabama, in Birmingham.
So we do not know if this is the USFL's chicken salad at the hotel they were staying at.
Very popular in the area.
A lot of chicken salads in my day.
That looks very interesting.
It doesn't look terrible, though.
I'm intrigued to see.
It looks pretty terrible.
The tomato looks delicious.
Is anybody else in the USFL just going to invite him over to their hotel?
You know what?
You just.
Yeah.
We got to pick this guy up.
What'd you do? You didn't like chicken salad
over there? We were at that Hilton the first week.
Yeah, we understand. We fucking asked for the pizza
too. Come join us.
I think it's the same hotel though.
I think they're all on different floors
of the same hotel.
This sounds awesome.
Did they all have chicken salad?
Did anybody else ask for the pizza?
Or was he the only one that saw the pizza get brought in?
Maybe the pizza's from a different team. That was disrespect. Who were they playing against? The ask for the pizza? Or was he the only one that saw the pizza get brought in? Oh, maybe the pizza's from a different team.
And that was disrespect.
Oh, who were they playing against?
The general?
It was the commander.
Vince Papali's son is in the league.
Hold on.
Vince Papali's son is in the league.
Vinny Papali.
I would imagine that pizza may have been around him.
It might have been his pizza.
Holy shit.
Is there a Philadelphia team?
Who's the—
There is a Philadelphia team.
He did not get picked by the Philadelphia team.
Oh, what a dumb league. What? Come on. How do you not have Vince did not get picked by the Philadelphia team. What a dumb league.
What?
Come on.
How do you not have Vince Papali's kid on the Philadelphia?
You stupid idiot.
With Mark Wahlberg as the head coach.
Boom.
Mark Wahlberg told me yesterday he'd download the Halo app to pray every day.
Really?
Yeah.
Did you?
I did.
How did he tell you that?
Well, I'm not going to pray every day, but if I do get to a point of when I'm going to
pray every day, I'm downloading the Halo app.
I just like the fact that his Happy Easter video was…
Is it Halo or Halo?
It's a promotional video.
It's awesome.
Halo.
Maybe it's Halo.
Ah, he does have a Boston accent, doesn't he?
Yeah, he does.
Yeah.
Halo.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure, but I did watch it.
Anyways, Mark Wahlberg doesn't have time to coach in the USFL.
But if Vince Papali's kid is in the league, you put him on the Philly team.
Get his ass traded to a different hotel down there.
I think he's on the Tampa Bay team.
He might as well.
The location of the city also does not matter at all.
You're leasing the name.
Did they have to talk to Governor or Mayor Ravenstall, whatever his name is in pittsburgh i don't know i just know they turned
this hotel into a football facility like there's a weight room in the hotel uh they cleared out
like the banquet hall put a bunch of weights yeah the meeting rooms look sweet that's awesome
okay that's great to hear sweet i mean terrible what so hearing all this startup at what point
do you think the guys who are there were like,
God, this was a huge fucking mistake.
Why am I doing this?
So the guys who play, I think they just enjoy playing.
I might be mistaken, but everybody that I talked to that was in the AAFL,
that was the one I think.
The Alliance, right?
Yeah.
Polian and Palo Alto.
Yeah.
That executive's kid, whatever his name is, that started the XFL.
That one,
I had friends that were playing in that league DMing me while they were
playing in it.
Like,
Hey,
there's some fucked up shit going on basically.
Like,
Hey,
we haven't been paying all this.
And I'm like wondering why they're still doing it.
Like they just want to,
I think they just want to,
in hopes of a check coming and still playing football,
they're good.
So I don't think you're going to hear a lot of the players be like,
Oh,
this was a mistake during the whole thing.
These stories will come afterwards.
And maybe the USFL isn't a mistake.
Maybe this thing goes on and really breaks ground in his trailblazing
and the coverage of the sport.
You know, they got drones flying around out there.
They got purse POV cams on helmets.
That looked awesome.
A lot of good stuff.
The chip in the ball, huh, first down.
There we go.
There's a lot of good stuff.
Joining us now, a man who might know if the NFL will adapt any of these processes into the NFL.
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Ladies and gentlemen, he and Rap Sheet.
What's up?
Hey, Rap Sheet, the NFL have a surprise urgent meeting this morning
because they're scared to death the USFL is going to take all their fans?
Not.
I'll have to check on the veracity of that report.
I have not heard that.
I'll have to check with my sources.
I did see it was on.
I did see they got some fans.
I didn't watch any of it.
How were the games?
Come on, Rap.
Hey, listen, we get it, okay?
No, I was very busy
Sunday, Saturday,
whatever day it was.
Yeah, okay, Ian, we get it.
Okay, Mr. NFL guy, NFL
insider. Hold on, hold on.
How watchable was it, for real?
Okay, so four or five plays, six plays.
Then I kind of went away,
then come back, four or five, six plays, then you kind of go away, then come back, four, five, sixth place.
Then you kind of go away, and then you turn it back on,
and it's basically a hard knocks happening of the entire league.
And you watch for a little bit.
Guy gets cut for choosing pizza over chicken salad.
And some other stuff happens.
I mean, it's an interesting league.
Seems unfair, but what do I know?
Yeah, I hope he ends up on – that guy's a good player.
He is a good player.
He is so hot. Line 46. Yeah. I hope he ends up on a, that guy's a good player. He is a good player. Yeah.
So I know line 46,
don't be picking pizza over fucking chicken salad. All right.
Cause we'll turn this into chicken shit real quick.
Anyways,
Ian,
let's talk about the NFL.
Okay.
We're happy football's here.
We're happy.
There's an opportunity for a lot of great players that are in that league to
maybe put some more film on to end up in the NFL.
Just seems going to be difficult when there's no quarterbacks left,
when all the NFL has everybody.
Unless Kurt Warner comes through.
If Kurt Warner comes through, that would be fantastic.
Let's talk about the NFL, sir.
Whenever you hear about the Trey Lance situation,
what is your mindset there?
I believe Bleacher Report wrote a whole article on it.
It was a Jeremy Fowler report that Trey Lance is acting as if he is the
starter for the San Francisco 49ers.
Jeremy Fowler is reporting, meanwhile, Trey Lance has been working out in the Bay Area. I'm told that he's
got indications, at least informal indications, from the team that he'll be the guy next year.
He's set to be that. Now, whether that means that they would still keep Garoppolo and that could
change the dynamic? Impossible, by the way. They say possibly. That would be impossible. But right
now, Lance is going to be the starter. With how beloved Garoppolo is in that locker room,
and his energy and how positive he is,
I think that would be an interesting decision.
Is this what you're hearing as well in San Francisco?
And is this a draft night trade potentially?
First of all, let me start with one of the other things you said.
I'm not so sure it's impossible that Garoppolo comes back
and attends training camp with the 49ers,
and then we'll see
what happens right because he's still not going to be able to throw until June that is if everything
goes perfectly well right so he's coming back from very serious shoulder surgery right shoulder
it was a torn capsule I believe kind of outside or on his rotator cuff so it wasn't rotator cuff
surgery but it was kind of around it if If everything goes perfect, he's throwing in June.
If everything doesn't go perfect, he's throwing in July probably.
So who is going to trade for him that didn't get a quarterback in the draft?
And then let's play this forward a little bit.
Let's say – I don't know what Trey Lance is going to be.
The people in San Francisco really, really, really like the potential. They think he is going to be great, but we don't know what Trey Lance is going to be. The people in San Francisco really, really, really like the potential.
They think he is going to be great, but we don't know.
Let's say Garoppolo shows up and, just like last year, was the better quarterback.
How do you not play him?
That's the thing about once he shows up, players know who's better.
They all know, right?
I mean, you guys both know. It's not like coaches say, oh, this guy's better, and players go, oh, okay. Players know. So what, like, who's better. They all know, right? I mean, you guys both know.
It's not like coaches say, oh, this guy's better, and players go, oh, okay.
Players know.
So what if he's better?
Yeah, well, politics dive into that every once in a while.
But I understand what you're saying.
Go ahead, AJ.
Unfortunately, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Ian, I know I think every time you're on here I ask you about Baker Mayfield,
but I'm more intrigued by the day of what may happen with him.
We know Robbie Anderson has, what, Instagram comments saying he doesn't want him there.
All this stuff surrounding him.
Who wants Baker Mayfield?
You started all this shit, by the way, Ian.
Whenever you reported on this show, then Mary Kay reported it.
Then that report was the one that Robbie Anderson actually commented no to.
Sorry about that, AJ.
But yes, this is all because of Ian Rapoport's report that it feels like Carolina and Baker
are going to happen,
even though Baker said that Carolina probably not going to happen.
Go ahead. I'm sorry about that. Go ahead, Ian.
So I would say it doesn't feel to me like Seattle is going to happen as of now.
We'll see. Maybe they don't come away with a quarterback in the draft.
Maybe on if Baker Mayfield doesn't get traded next by next, like Tuesday, Wednesday,
he could get traded Friday if a team who wanted one doesn't get traded next by next like Tuesday Wednesday he could get traded Friday
if a team who wanted one doesn't come away with one so that'll be something to watch maybe like
the day after the draft so we'll kind of put a pin in that and wait for that one the Carolina one is
interesting to me because if he is going to get traded before the draft Carolina is the most
likely option if Carolina doesn't do it,
then I think he just waits. So for Carolina, what they're doing right now is they're evaluating all
the quarterbacks. They got Sam Howell in today and they'll make a decision. Would I rather trade
for Baker Mayfield and some of his big salary, or would I rather take Malik Willis or Kenny Pickett
or someone at number six? And if Mayfield isn't traded by then, like it could be a minute.
Like he could, he could also show up at training camp with the Browns.
And that would be slightly awkward, but, but is what it is.
There's no way he goes to the voluntary workouts.
I don't think he should probably, but the people.
Mandatory though could show up at mandatory.
Have to, I think kind of right.
Unless you want to eat quite a big salary fine.
And then couldn't they, could they get him for his whole thing if they could find him for anything, I wonder?
They could tell him to stay away, couldn't they?
Oh, they did that with OBJ.
Yeah, I mean, they could do like an excused, you know, we're not going to find you, but don't show up to minimize the distraction.
We've seen that before.
But let's, similar to the Garoppolo thing, let's take this forward.
I don't know if Deshaun Watson is going to be suspended.
I don't know when he is going to be suspended i
don't know when he is going to be suspended but there is obviously a possibility that his civil
situation if there is any sort of settlement wraps up before the season so it is in the realm of
possibility that deshaun gets suspended at some point for however many games this year if you're
the browns wouldn't you kind of rather have Baker Mayfield as your
starting quarterback for four games or whatever, six games? It's not ideal. Yeah. They got Jacoby
Brissett there as well. Real quick. Sounds like you think that's going to happen right there?
Which one? Deshaun settlement before season starts? I don't know enough to say whether or
not that's going to happen. I know it's possible, and he considered it before the Dolphins almost traded for him.
So just in my mind, my opinion, if he considered it then, might he
consider it now to get it over with and just kind of be done?
Possibly. Okay, so by the way, the way you said that, we all
in here were like, ooh, that sounds like, you know, because Ian does have to balance what he knows
and what he doesn't know. He knows stuff from other people that sounds like, you know, because Ian does have to balance what he knows, what he doesn't know.
Right.
He knows stuff from other people that could potentially infer some things, which leads us to this.
Are you working again like this week?
Because remember last week we went to Harry Potter World, Pez candy things, and golfing
at Black Page.
Yep.
Right?
Yep.
So, or Beth Page Black, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
So this week we're actually going to get some stuff like, hey, what's going on with Detroit?
What's going on with Detroit?
What's going on with Aiden Hutchinson and Trevon Walker?
Things changing.
Like, is this information maybe you're talking to as opposed to Harry Potter?
We're grinding.
No, this is grinding. I don't know if you know this.
The draft is like in less than two weeks.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, ten days away, Ian.
Welcome back to football, dude.
Ten days away. There it is. to football, dude. Ten days away.
There it is.
The Draft Spectacular.
Yeah, that's right.
I will not be tuned in, but...
What the hell is that about?
What the hell?
I didn't get my invite, although I guess I'll be somewhat busy.
Oh, yeah.
We'll probably be reporting your tweets for sure.
Yep, of course.
Yeah, you'll be a part of it.
I'll wave to you guys.
I'll do a little...
I'll do the thing where, like, thing where like John Stockton used to do
Who used to rub his chin to tell his kids hi
Rub his cheek
Basketball player
I'll wave hi to you guys
It was some sort of
I don't know
Anyway
Joe Montan
Don't say hello to us by the way
We don't care Ian
Do what you got to do.
We'll report your tweets.
What is going on with the top of the draft?
Is there any real shakeup or is this all smokescreen?
So Malik Willis and Kenny Pickett are visiting the Lions this week.
Thanks, thanks, thanks.
And I've been spending my last several hours trying to figure out what that means.
And it either means one of two things which are completely opposite.
The Lions have a real legitimate interest in a quarterback at number two,
or they have no interest and they want to make sure if a quarterback comes around at 32,
that they're prepared.
I think one of those things is true.
I just don't know which.
And if the Lions take one at number two,
everyone in the world has spent this whole time, you've heard it,
talking about how bad this quarterback class is,
right? Oh, it's not the high-powered
class. It's not Trevor Lawrence.
Sure.
But if the Lions take one at two, we're going to get
several quarterbacks in the first round because everyone
is going to scramble up to make sure they get their guy.
That is one of the major,
major inflection points and possible
surprise of the draft. MCDC could
rattle up the whole place.
Can't wait to see it.
Kenny Pickett in town, Malik Willis on the way.
Who would they pick, by the way?
That would be a big deal, especially with this conversation,
because like you said, none of these quarterbacks were worth a single thing,
and then boom, who goes number two overall?
This person had to be clearly ahead of everybody else,
even though it sounds like nobody has a clue in that situation.
Evan Fox, here we go.
Jared Goff on the way off.
Unmentored his kid.
I mean, Pickett's hands are too small.
MCDC ain't picking him.
Whoa.
You think he's a big hand guy?
Yeah, absolutely.
Ravshi, what's going on with Hutchinson, though?
It sounds like he's not going number one now, or what's happening there?
So Hutchinson today is at the Lions actually doing a visit.
Drove from there a couple hours or whatever it was, 45 minutes from Ann Arbor.
So he's doing a visit, and I would say if he is, you know,
you look at the mock drafts, and some are really good,
some are not really good.
We're not going to know, but almost everyone has Hutchinson going number two
if he doesn't go number one.
So I think that's something to, you know, figure he's going to know but almost everyone has hutchinson going number two if he doesn't go number one so i think that's something to you know figure he's going to go early but the jaguars ahead of them are just as interesting because i think everyone assumed hutchinson would go number one
he is smart he is safe he also if you're trying to build something is a like rock star leader
locker room and locker room guy not in like the corny
sense but in the like dudes really like him sense so as a number one trend setting or what do you
call it foundation setting pick i think he'd be really good but the trayvon walker one is
is what i think one the jaguars are going to be wrestling with uh my colleague mike
arafo always compares trayvon walker to alden smith
on the field as far as just not in production but as far as just length and like kind of what he
looks like so not really trend bulky had alden smith so that is the one where you're going to
say like i'm not sure we're going to know who's going number one till right up and to the draft
and that could change some things as well i'm excited to break some news hopefully draft day
on who's going you know what know what I mean, Raph?
I mean, last year, Mack Jones at three was all but certain until day of draft.
And then, boom, he falls down to New England and everybody wonders,
how the hell did this happen again?
Go ahead, Tone.
Ian, there was reports of wide receivers that are potentially looking for new deals
and that are not going to
participate in workouts uh what's the update on those guys uh yeah i think that's right uh well
although i think dk probably is gonna go i think mclaurin will be there you know i i think all that
is true i don't get too into the otas thing because really like you guys know it's like
you run some sprints you do some lifting
uh all the stuff that Pat does in his spare time like that's really what OTAs is like it's
it's very very very voluntary and I think thanks to the uh virtual workouts of the last couple
years I think it's probably more voluntary than it's ever been because coaches realize like we
can have a season if our guys don't show up in April like it's probably fine
so I think those guys are just being safe and staying away but the receiver market has gone
crazy it is the position to get paid now so I think all of those teams that have those top
receivers from AJ Brown and DK Metcalf and Deebo Samuel have a decision to make and it's the same
one that the Bills and the Raiders and the Chiefs wrestle with,
is do I pay this guy or do I get a bunch of draft picks for him
and let someone else pay him?
We got 10 days until the draft,
and I think some of that will play out before that.
I'm not sure Deebo Samuel will play out before that.
It might be a minute.
But that's definitely one of the biggest storylines of the offseason.
Are you saying that strictly because of the way the Niners operate
or because somebody told you that?
I just, my sense is, I was kind of waiting.
The Debo Samuel thing, you know how contracts work.
It could happen like.
Well, I know how contracts work more.
You know how contracts work.
I certainly do.
No, no, no.
Ian, you've been reporting them fantastically,
but what are you saying about Debo? Go ahead. No, so I just, I don't. No, no, no. Ian, you've been reporting them fantastically, but what are you saying about Debo, though?
Go ahead.
No, so I just don't get the sense any decision on what the 49ers will do is imminent.
I don't think it's like, all right, if they don't do a deal before the draft,
then they're definitely going to trade him.
It doesn't feel like that to me.
When I poke around, people go, yeah, I'm not sure anything's coming soon.
I'm like, okay, well, that means they'll probably be closer to training camp
when we get a decision.
That's because Chris Ballard operates like SEAL Team 6.
That's right.
Nobody knows anything Chris Ballard's doing.
Debo's coming to the Colts.
Can't wait for him.
Hell, yeah.
Welcome to the Colts, Debo.
You're a lucky.
Just like Gilly Locke.
Just like Gilly Locke.
Stephon Gilmore.
Welcome to lockdown time.
The Gilmore, you know, we all want a break where all these visits are going
and which free agents are going.
The Gilmore Colts visit, we all want to break where all these visits are going and which phrases are going.
The Gilmore Colts visit broke from the transaction wire.
Like nobody, it just popped up on the wire and nobody announced that. Chris Ballard.
Lasagna.
Yeah, Chris Ballard says, no, we're going to break, nobody's going to break this thing.
We're actually sick of this.
Nobody breaks the news.
We'll have the goddamn wire do it.
Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, rap sheet.
Is Dougie Kyed the authority on...
Kyed. Is he the... Ky is dougie kyed the authority on jesus is he the god dougie dougie kyed okay is he the authority not hyatt that's what well it's kind i believe because i
looked at his profile it said pronounced like died d-y-e-d unless that's diet diet yeah no i think
that's died yeah all right all right go ahead. Does Contract Dougie know everything about the QB contrast?
Because he's saying Kyler and Lamar are going to warrant 40 and a half a year.
Is that what you're hearing?
I think they better want that much.
If they do not want that much, they should rethink a lot of things.
I think that's probably the—
What, you're saying this is obvious?
No.
No way. No! No way!
No!
Doug Guy did not deserve that.
Doug Guy did not deserve that.
Literally, I looked at it
and I'm like,
all right, okay.
The fact that they put Doug...
He's such a nice guy, too.
I don't know him.
I assume he is.
He's such a nice guy. But them just stamping't know him. I assume he is. He's such a nice guy.
But them just stamping that like, hey, fucking Doug Codd said it.
It's like, all right, dude.
Like, I appreciate Doug Codd.
I respect Doug Codd because I assume he works for Pro Football Focus.
But the way they set up that graphic as if it was like Bill fucking Poli.
Or like that's basically what it was like.
Oh, Doug Codd.
Okay, got it.
That is in vogue now in the social media world.
If someone says something, you put it on a graphic,
you stamp it on there, and you put that on Instagram.
You just, you watch the likes roll in.
Well, Bill Belichick said it.
Like, that's what they acted like Doug Kite was.
And no, I love Doug Kite.
But Pro Football Focus has this incredible confidence
that I wish I could walk around with one time.
I love them because they got all the stats.
I do.
I enjoy the way they operate.
I am a big-time follower.
That's why when I saw Doug Kide, I was like, well, fuck, all right.
Doug Kide said it.
Let's go ahead and go for it.
But this next – they're going to continue to go up, right?
And the Derek Carr model wasn't fully guaranteed
although Deshaun was and Kirk's was do you think quarterbacks are going to start going that way is
that what you're hearing from agents they're going to attempt to do that or no yeah I think so the
Derek Carr contract was good for him and I know the Raiders wanted to structure like that to give
themselves some flexibility I think for Derek Carr who you, Vic Taffer from The Athletic wrote a really good article about Carr's mindset
and why it was important to him to take that kind of deal.
It was really about doing what was best for the team to make sure that they had
his best chance to win as possible.
That was Carr's mindset.
For him, I think that deal was absolutely fine.
It's going to be more interesting when you see what is the next deal.
Like, does Kyler Murray get done?
I don't get the sense anything's imminent there,
but how close to fully guaranteed does he get?
And then, like, does Lamar Jackson do a deal at all anytime soon?
Like, I just, we are in this weird waiting game
where it seems like the Ravens would like to engage.
Lamar's like, eh, I'm good.
I'll just
kind of focus on whatever. And I don't know when they're going to get together. And, you know,
everyone, every agent who, and every, all the agents want to talk about Lamar Jackson because
he does not have one. They say, well, like, how could he put himself at risk? I hope somebody has
educated Lamar Jackson of the risk versus the reward. It is a risk. Kirk Cousins did it, got unbelievably, like,
unprecedentedly rewarded for waiting.
So that's kind of what we're doing with Lamar.
The waiting game is interesting.
I love that the agents, you know, because they've never had any bad deals.
You know, they're worried about Lamar's deal not being good for everybody else.
Go ahead, AJ.
Ian, what's the relationship like between Kyler
and the front office in Arizona?
If he signs an extension, is everything good again?
Or hey, we're good to go, we don't have any beef?
I think they'll be okay.
I'm not so sure it's like everything's great,
like come in and hugs.
But what happens is after you go through the stress of a deal
and it sucks.
I imagine these high, high, high stakes contract negotiations are probably miserable for all sides.
When I talk to agents or GMs or players in the middle of it, everyone seems to hate all of it.
And then it gets done, and it might take a little bit, but he wants to be there, and the team wants him there, and they are in a good place
to win a lot of games going forward, and they've taken big steps over the last three years kind of
incrementally, so I think once it gets done, assuming it does get done, it's all going to be
fine, but Eric Burkhart, the agent, has made sure that it will not be done quietly, and he, you know,
he has been very boisterous about what he thinks and what he wants,
so we will see going forward.
FaZe Clan's only growing, too.
Yeah, FaZe.
That team can pay, too.
Oh, yeah.
That team's got a big bank behind them, you know what I mean, Rat?
They're unfazed.
No.
You don't know about FaZe Clan?
Should I?
Dude.
Oh, my God.
FaZe Clan could put a football team together
And beat any of the USFL teams
Yeah
They could
Is that an analytics consortium?
That's a real pizza party
Imagine Brawny running
You got Destroying on that team
Kyler's running fucking quarterback
Ben Simmons at tight end
They would honestly
Listen
They would walk
They would wipe the floor
Yeah
With the entire USFL
Is this an esports team?
Yes, exactly. That's what I'm saying.
They got guys, though.
Yeah, FaZe Clan, dude.
Didn't they win against Brett Favre?
Yeah, I think so.
Favre was slinging it.
Alright, we got nothing else, really.
Tom Brady,
his documentary's ending next Tuesday?
Is that what's happening?
I'm sure they had to redo a lot of it.
Oh.
Hold on. Are we going to see the Miami
thing? Ooh.
I saw that you said it tomorrow, Tuesday, but then I saw
he tweeted next Tuesday. So it's probably next Tuesday.
No, but I don't know if you saw
the updated one because the fucking algorithm with the
late tweets. I was seeing shit from four
days ago. Oh, yeah. Hey, listen. listen the algorithm i mean the it makes me want to never tweet about anything
in game ever again because i'll see people's tweets like about the end of the celtics game
like i woke up this morning i'm like is there a game going on like i can't i cannot deal i can't
deal either what are they doing over there ian what's going on i mean i assume they're gonna
fix it uh they've been saying they're going to fix it.
Maybe they'll get an edit button. That would help.
They're doing a lot of things.
Yeah, but only one or two characters.
If you were able to edit an entire tweet,
you could really do some damage.
I only need a couple characters.
How many misspellings and grammatical gaffes am I going to do?
It's like one per tweet.
I don't want to have to redo the whole thing.
I agree completely. I'm on your side in that thing as an OG on Twitter,
but a lot of people are asking for an edit thing
so they can explain themselves if they fuck up a tweet as well.
So I think that we don't need that.
Yeah, we don't need that.
We just need the couple letters changed here or there.
Any news coming from your Twitter account
over the next couple of days that we should expect
now that you're back working?
I would say hopefully a lot of drafts scuttlebutt
will be the focus from now until rumors scuttlebutt that's what buzz could be some buzz
hey we like a good buzz coming out from that hell yeah and uh with your uh people that you know we
try to figure out where Elias is, too?
Because we've got Ezekiel coming on later,
and we've got no fucking clue where Elias is.
Yeah, Ezekiel is Elias' younger brother.
We haven't seen Elias in like a year.
And that is...
You son of a bitch.
Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapport.
Thanks to you.
Yeah, Ezekiel.
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Toxic Table.
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Boston Connor.
Boston Connor.
April 18th. Regular day. Conan O'Brien's birthday, actually. Table, Ty Schmidt, Boston Connor. Boston Connor, April 18th, regular day.
Conan O'Brien's birthday, actually.
Happy birthday, Conan O'Brien.
Happy birthday, Conan.
How do you know that?
Boston guy, right?
Yeah, Boston guy.
Oh, you just looked it up?
Massachusetts guy.
Well, let it be known that April 18th, although Conan O'Brien's birthday,
will also be remembered for the day that we see a tweet that says this.
Breaking!
A federal judge in Florida has voided the national mask mandate covering airports, planes, and other public travel via the Associated Press.
Via at Breaking911, a news Twitter account.
Breaking, we beat fucking COVID! Keep that one going. Keep that one going.
Keep that one going.
You get winded.
So that federal judge in Florida, though, covers all of us.
I know he can't hear.
Yeah, it's national.
My long COVID got me a little winded, but that long COVID is dead.
Does that take effect today today or do we wait?
I tweeted one out.
I read it.
It was supposed to go from April 18th to May 3rd, the mask mandate, but it ain't happening.
Federal judge named Catherine Kimball Mizell.
Hey, shout out.
Thank you, Catherine.
Thank you.
Because that fucking CDC.
We did it.
Exceeds their authority to try to fucking keep us in mask.
AJ, we did it.
Didn't we?
I mean, this is a very big step in the process.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah, dude.
Yes.
Goddamn right.
I don't got enough juice to do it again, but we did it, man.
You know?
Wow.
What percentage of the plane do you think will still be wearing masks?
Who cares?
Put on sunglasses, too.
I mean, this is just an announcement that, hey, we did it.
Here we go.
Back to normal.
You know, all the way back to the days of Joe Exotic and the Tiger King.
And the initial lockdowns where we're seeing videos of big fishing nets being
draped over top of people's heads yeah and getting dragged into an apartment and sealed in quarantine
and saying hey you go outside that could happen to you yeah yeah obviously that wasn't our country
but still what was our country for a long time was everybody just hanging out in their houses
not allowed to leave that son of a bitch kova just kept that's still going on though that's still going on in some other countries how does
that affect us can we still travel over there what do we do well katherine kimball my cell said don't
you fucking worry about hey thank you oh thank you katherine waving or being sworn in i believe
that's a that looks like a hand-on bible yep hell yeah happy Easter, Catherine, by the way. She's fighting for us. Man, this is awesome.
The cover was long, though.
It was strong.
Yeah.
It was durable.
It was gritty.
What?
That son of a bitch came back more times than Jesus.
It was dead.
It was over.
We thought it was good times.
And then boom!
Another variant came around.
Then boom!
Another variant came around.
Then boom!
Another wave.
Boom!
Another spike.
Boom!
Then Omnicron came running wild. We said, oh a soft ass one little bitch little bitch ass one and then there was
like rumblings from some medical community and obviously every medical community is right
we learned that the last two years yes we did omnicron is actually making everybody better
because it's catching everything and it everything Helping combat against the other COVID
We could have never guessed that something like this would come along
But goddamn Omicron is here and might save it
And here we are April 18th
It's fucking over
I'm so happy for everybody
The effects of this will be
Long reaching
Kids had to stay in their homes
For two years Not going to classrooms not getting to see
people in some places not good humans locked down got scared to death of everybody else and
everything going on habits are formed in like 21 days let alone two years there'll be ripple
effects for what covid did but here we are april 18th don't cover to fucking officially suck it
we should have known last week
when Fauci said this is something we just got to live
with now that it was almost
there and then Catherine fucking
top rope.
You mean when I said that
and you guys said that I was throwing conspiracies out there?
What's that, AJ?
Whatever Fauci said last week and you guys
attacked me like it didn't happen. That's because Fauci was nowhere
to be found for a long time. We fact-checked you.
Fauci's had four or five different
runs in this COVID run.
There's five seasons of that fucking guy.
Where does he go from here, though?
He's back. He's back? He just gave a
precursor to the end of this thing. He's trying to turn
babyface. Back to his lab.
He's babyface, heel, babyface,
through that pitch, kind of went
away a little bit, then heel.
He was on that heel run for a long time.
Then he disappeared.
Came back Babyface one week in a row.
Great storytelling.
Fouch?
Yeah, Fouch.
He's got depth, dude.
He slaughtered it.
Horrible pitcher, though.
Unbelievable run.
Cannot throw a baseball.
Cannot throw a baseball.
No.
Bad, bad baseball.
So bad.
Not an athlete.
Why would you agree to do that?
If you know you can't throw, why would you agree to do it?
He was untouchable at the time.
He was the biggest baby face on earth.
Yeah.
What are you talking about?
He thought he was going to eat your 95 on the block.
Dude, how about him?
What, his 93.6 or something?
In full uniform.
He could still start for like every team in the majors.
If he wanted to.
If he wanted to.
He wasn't a pitcher, right?
No.
Outfielder.
Just threw 93.6?
Oh, yeah.
Absolute hoes.
Burners.
That's awesome.
How come when you throw opening pitches, you don't wear a full uniform?
That would be sweet, wouldn't it?
Try to gas it.
Yeah.
All right.
Now that we beat COVID, let's talk about it.
I mean, is there anything else to talk about?
I was going to say.
We're on dead air for the rest of the fucking show.
Go outside. Go outside.
Go outside.
Go do something.
Go hug somebody.
Go hug somebody.
Don't spit on somebody.
That's disgusting.
Don't do that.
But maybe shake a hand.
Dap somebody up.
We're back.
Speaking of Cullenby, Dad, did you catch fucking Bristol?
Dirt race?
Yeah.
Yeah, what was that?
Fucking dirt race at Bristol.
What are you talking about?
So they brought it.
Did they bring in dirt for that track or is it always a dirt track?
No, they brought in the dirt.
Indiana kid, by the way.
That's a lot.
Home on dirt.
Go ahead and lead that entire thing.
Hell yeah.
Not surprised who won that one.
Who won it?
KY.
Did he really?
Yes.
Of course.
Put him on dirt?
Is Kyle running?
Fucking Kyle's winning.
I thought Tony Stewart was the dirt track dude.
Well, Tony Stewart is smoke. Yeah, he is dirt track dude well Tony Stewart he smoked yeah
he is dirt track
he doesn't race no more though
yeah
he never races anymore
I saw his house is for sale
well yeah
we're not diving
all the way back into that
okay
I'm not either
I'm saying I thought
he still drove
every once in a while
what'd you say Zito
you said something
oh there's breaking news
also in the sports
now it's hard to move on
from COVID
just want to let everybody know
thanks for riding
alongside of us all COVID.
Thank you guys for joining us all COVID.
Boys, thanks for all your efforts.
I really feel like we did a lot of things, man.
Thank you, Pat.
Thank you, Pat.
Thank you, guys.
I appreciate you guys.
Back to being hog sports, though.
It was birth.
Yeah.
It was.
Yeah.
It was birth like the day that everything started.
Yeah.
Literally, the day of.
And the fact that we're in Indiana
And we were able to socially
Distant throughout the entire thing
Was really
Unbelievable to think about
Won't get talked about
Wouldn't have been able
To do it anywhere else
A lot of people
Yeah LA, New York
Everybody shut down
We're the only ones that didn't
I don't think
We maintained safety
It was weird
We weren't like
Touching each other for a while
Yeah
I'm gonna give you guys All a big dab A kiss on that cheek How's your family? We maintain safety. It was weird. We weren't touching each other for a while.
I'm going to give you guys all a big dab.
A kiss on the cheek.
How's your family?
You guys can all go share your devices again.
See?
What devices?
Where you ingest CBD for your joints.
Oh.
Because you all had to have your own for COVID. Yeah pipe yeah well the thing about it is we do have
a plethora of this remember yeah well the other day we had to do a invoice on everything we had
in the office and the accounting for that particular department started getting a little
bit higher than we had remembered it's like 15 20 of those things laying around one for everybody
what happened well that's how it had to be for yeah. Had to do it. Had to be for COVID.
That's what we do. Breaking news coming out of the sports
world. The match will have another epic
clash on the golf course. This time
two OGs taking on two young
Bucs. Hey, who's the Tom
Brady and Aaron Rodgers of the
next generation? Maybe Josh Allen
and Patrick Mahomes. Well, Tom
and Aaron will represent for the OGs against
Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes at the Wynn Las Vegas June represent for the OGs against Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes
at the Wynn Las Vegas, June 1st, 6.30 p.m. Eastern Time,
available on TNT.
This is going to be awesome.
Scrambleize them.
This is a scramble where they have multiple different rules
or how will this go like they had done it in the past?
And how does this not become a six-hour affair
where everybody tries to not fall asleep at the end?
Well, they could start with the 12 holes.
They'll probably do where the first six will be their own ball,
and then maybe they do the –
Like they did with Phil and Tom and them?
Two amateurs here.
No pros golfing in the match.
AJ, your first thoughts?
I mean, I'm excited.
I think the matchup, it's up to them to make it interesting.
You think?
We don't care nearly as much about good golf play as we like good banter to see all these four stud quarterbacks talk and see how
they go back and forth at each other why don't they just open it up and tell us all how to play
quarterback in the nfl yeah well they just got it why doesn't like just somebody ask the one
question like hey tom why do you do blah blah blah because then that immediately leads into
and then they're playing golf i guess but we're all just getting a chance to listen to the fucking guys of the nfl chit chat although it won't be that it won't be you
know they'll be but they're gonna hey they're gonna i think that group especially we know how
josh allen is fun so is pat mahomes and aaron work together at state farm aaron and tom will
you know they'll be the old savvy vets i think they're gonna go back and forth and
i think aaron's sarcasm and his like cutting humor will be at an all-time high.
He's got to be playing well, though.
The buildup to this is going to be great.
Yeah.
June 1st, I mean, it's not too far away.
That's cool.
Yeah, but we've got some press conferences coming up.
A couple of Zoom calls, a couple of promos.
Well, no more Zoom calls with what the federal judge has said.
They're sitting on a dais, I think.
Oh, yeah.
On a dais with Jim Nance standing in between them.
I didn't see.
TNT or what?
TNT, yeah.
Chuck.
Yeah, Chuck.
Chuck will be in their ear asking questions.
Should be.
Larry Fitz.
Should be awesome.
He did that other one.
Yeah, here we go.
What are you going to say, Tone?
How come AJ didn't break this for us?
He definitely knew about it.
Huh.
I did not know about it.
I learned that right here from you.
Oh, shit.
You think I watched that many hours of Maury Povich
and don't know what bullshit is?
Get out of here.
How do you hold it in?
Huh?
I don't hold it.
I didn't know this.
You think I care?
Like, I didn't know.
I wouldn't be like, hey, guys, guess what?
There's another match happening.
I wouldn't do that.
No, I know. You wouldn't, like, hey, guys, guess what? There's another match happening. I wouldn't do that. No, I know.
Obviously, but maybe we should start thinking.
Is there any breaking news coming out of the Aaron camp that maybe we should know about
that's maybe cool or fun or anything like that?
Yeah, I think June 1st, I think he's playing golf with some other great quarterbacks.
Oh, shit.
Is that to win Las Vegas?
We already knew that.
What?
We already knew that.
So they're only playing 12 holes?
I think that's what happened last time, remember?
Yeah, they won after. It got real dark, that. So they're only playing 12 holes? I think that's what happened last time, remember? Yeah, they won after.
It got real dark, though. They were playing real long.
It was Aaron and DeChambeau and then Tom and Phil.
It got dark. It got late. You could tell
everybody was kind of tired, but Aaron's putter
got real hot. Aaron's putter
got real hot. He's a golfer. I'm a very, very,
very talented golfer. I played for the first time on
Saturday. I am not.
Yeah, you're not. How'd it go?
You know, I'm well. It hurt the back of my head. It's up and down, right? Just up and down. I mean, that first time on Saturday. I am not. How'd it go? It hurt the back of my head. Up and down, right?
Just up and down. I mean, that's golf. That's what it is.
More ups than downs, if we're talking
not on a scorecard, but in the golf flow of things.
I hit the ball rather well. First time on a course
in a long time, and first time using these
Callaway gloves.
Nice bats. Hey, good pop
off those. The pop
sounds like Jason Kendall off of that.
You know what I mean?
It's unbelievable.
Have you played any at all?
I have not gotten out.
I mean, it's snowing today.
It's been raining.
It's monsoon season here, too, in Ohio.
But, no, I haven't.
I don't know when the first time I'll get out.
I'm committed to a couple outings.
That'll probably be when I get out.
Will these guys play well?
Like, you think Aaron, like, looks, like, tries to dial in on golf for this? Yes.
I think he 100% wants to
play well, and we saw it last
time. Like, that dude got dialed in, and he was
loving it. Yeah, I think they all,
I think if you've done TV on, or
golf on TV before, you
probably want to be better at golf than the people
who haven't necessarily done it yet.
I think. Mahomes plays in
Tahoe, and they show a lot of his shots.
He's used to playing like that too, so I think he'll play well.
Oh, Josh Allen can hit a golf ball 5,000 yards.
No, we saw him.
Remember Topkoff?
Oh, shit, that's right.
Topkoff, he fucking hit one.
I think he left.
No, it might have hit the top of the thing.
Yeah, he fucking bombed.
I mean, it was murdered.
In Vegas, that's at altitude, thin air.
There could be bombing some, I think.
I assume, I haven't seen that course.
The Wynn course has got to be awesome, right?
I would assume, yeah.
What do you think?
I know Shadow Creek's the other one they played.
That one's crazy nice, too, obviously.
The Shadow Creek one is just for golfing, right?
Yeah, it's like 20 minutes from the strip.
It's just out there, yeah.
Because the Wynn and all these other places that they also have golf courses you can get like around
with your suite and like a whole like i think shadow creek is like uh right yeah isn't it
yeah shadow creek's a lot harder to get on it's a lot more expensive yeah yeah i think i don't
yeah not a hotel associated with it or anything i think it is just like a golf club i never
understood why people ever did that when i was younger too i've only done vegas one way i guess
there is multiple ways i've only done it one way. I guess there's multiple ways. I've only
done it one way and golfing is a part of the other way
I think and like shows and meals and stuff.
I don't think I've golfed in Vegas.
Ever. No, no, no. Never.
What are we doing here?
Yeah. For how long?
I'm going to pay for this. Let's go.
Yeah. In the summer.
In 114 degrees.
I'm going to be hung over for four weeks this is gonna
be a nightmare my wife said she uh she used some patch some patch thing this weekend she said it
did work it did feel better really yeah wait for what for boozing sure wasn't the gazebo effect
what was that what the patch do plus and what is that? A gazebo is not a placebo, which is a...
Oh, gazebo, you put too much goddamn lacquer on.
Well, there you go.
Placebo is when you think you took something
and mentally you make the adjustment and do it yourself.
That's right.
Yeah.
Placebo effect is big in studies and trials.
It works, it works, man.
Yeah, I guess.
Hey, whatever it takes.
Wait, so she took a patch the next day
or that would help her feel better the next day?
While she was boozing, yeah, she was taking it.
Before you started drinking.
What is that?
I don't know.
I was very interested.
That's why I'm talking about it.
Because whenever, I was like, how hungover were you?
Because I just get so hungover.
We don't drink that much anymore, mostly smoking a CBD.
So then whenever we drink, I fucking die.
I am murdered by it.
So I asked her.
She's, by the way, a great drinker in her own right.
I'm like, how'd you know?
She said, this patch really helped out.
Because normally she gets a bit hungover as well.
I was like, need to find these patches for the next time there's a whiskey night.
Because I can't be doing that fucking two-week still dead thing.
Maybe Roman.
Maybe Roman will start selling those.
If those work, by the way, that would be game changers, I think, for everybody.
Because the alcohol industry is probably going down right now i mean with this news today business is about to be
booming i'll get in covet going up because i was dead i also think during covet booze was at a
fucking sky high all-time high nice real i think so yeah people just sitting in their way more than
ever yeah because it could get delivered too i didn't even think about that. Don't even have to worry
about timing or driving
or nothing.
Nope.
You're not allowed to leave,
but somehow somebody's
allowed to bring me booze.
Yeah.
And if you're not
ever going anywhere.
How are we ever going
to talk about that
whole thing?
What?
Well, if you just lay out
what happened there,
somebody locked in house,
not allowed to leave.
Somebody bringing them booze,
though,
that person leaves
and goes, drops off booze somewhere else.
Yeah, multiple people's houses, too.
Need the essentials.
Well, that's why we started doing APOC burgers.
Because we can't have people come and buy jobs.
Yeah, we started making burgers every day here.
They were very good.
Had an entire smoke machine.
Delicious.
Hell of a rig.
Hell of a rig.
What is it?
Ingenuity?
Uh-huh.
Breeds? Necessity. Necess. What is it? Ingenuity. Uh-huh. Breeds.
Necessity.
Necessity.
Breeds.
Ingenuity.
That's us, dude.
Hell yeah.
We're going to watch the match.
We're going to watch it.
Because Aaron said it.
Half-half.
Definitely.
We'll watch it regardless.
Yeah.
It'll happen.
What day of the week is that?
June 1st.
June 1st, dude.
Fucking get it.
May 2nd is a Monday, so do the math.
Tuesday or Sunday? It's wednesday wednesday
nice you gonna watch yeah of course i love those things i think it's a great idea to do these
you ever gonna play one you think no but i i like to watch why not what's that all about why would you play well i mean you got to be like a quarterback or Charles Barkley or something like that. I know.
Oh, okay. Got it.
I enjoy watching him. How come Phil's not involved in this one?
He might be. He might be a late addition.
He's EP, I think. He's behind some.
He might be on the panel, too.
Didn't he trade it? I mean, he's like one of the traders
of the match. Oh, man.
I wonder if Aaron's going to make any comments about that.
Oh, no.
Where's Phil, guys?
Certainly, right?
I don't want to give him any ideas.
And everybody will be like, Aaron lacks so much self-awareness.
He has no idea what's going on.
It's like the complete opposite, actually.
He is completely fucking with...
Oh, man, what a moment.
That would be great.
That's why they'll never invite us, though,
I think, you know, to one of those.
We'll never get a chance to cover it.
Well, I mean, TNT does it,
so why, they're not going to have anybody
tag along with them.
There has to be some other network
that we could do that with, right?
Yeah, I was going to say,
there's a chance.
It is such a good concept.
It is such a good idea.
I understand there's like one a year,
two a year, or whatever, but...
Fuck the networks.
We'll go streaming service. If you cover it well, like if you film it well and they're mic'd well and
you have the right people it's awesome and you could you could think of foursomes for days i
think on good groups to play against each other that people will want to see oh yes and if you
control the audio properly and catch like conversation there's an entire thing it's a
lot of work it's gonna take a lot of money Hey, getting an entire golf course all rigged up,
that is going to take a lot of cash.
I can't wait for it, though.
I want to let you know, by Tahoe, I'm going to be balling.
Oh, yeah.
Know that.
I'm going to be balling.
I believe it.
The good shots are going to be more in abundance than they were on Saturday
because they're going to have to be.
Well, we were putting out,
so it wasn't like you were just picking your ball up.
You were putting all those close ones.
Hey, those two or three footers, not fun.
Yeah, you see Jordan Spieth has missed multiple.
Still won the tournament, though.
Hey, he's back, Giorno, by the way.
Congrats to Jordan Spieth.
It was awesome getting to watch him on Sunday dial it in.
Six under, I believe, or five under on Sunday
to go ahead and win that thing.
Had to go to an extra hole with Patrick Cantley.
Almost chips in out of the sand,
and then I was getting to hearing some reports on the internet.
He's been doing that ever since he was a kid.
I guess he is just lethal close and around the green.
He chips.
He has like 60 chip ins,
they say,
or something like that.
So that would not be abnormal at all.
Fun to watch him and the math teacher kind of go out there,
do their thing and get back on top.
A lot of people question whether or not Jordan was ever going to be able to
get back to the mountaintop mentally because of some of the shit that happened. I'm incredibly happy for
him. He looked awesome out there. He looked awesome. If you saw his post-round interview,
too, he said, well, yeah, I mean, I basically won this tournament without my putter, like,
without being able to putt. So, I mean, I'd say that's, you got to take a lot of good from that
if you know, like, all right, I played that good where I putted god-awful
and I still won a tournament.
What is it, championship this weekend?
PGA Championship or is it two weekends?
It's two weekends, I think.
Because Coltsy Nosti brought it up because, remember,
Tiger said he was going to play in it.
The 19th.
May 19th.
It's a month away.
Oh, so –
Where?
It's at –
Myrtle Beach.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Is that it?
Myrtle.
He did say Myrtle Beach. Because I think he said, Darius Rucker, there's a sneakyrtle Beach. Oh, yeah, yeah. Is that it? Myrtle. He did say Myrtle Beach.
Because I think he said Darius Rucker, there's a sneaky good party there.
Oh, no, it's at Southern Hills.
Remember Scotty's favorite course.
Oh, yeah.
Was Scotty Scheffler at this one yesterday?
I don't know if he played or not.
He's probably celebrating.
He wasn't there.
Easter.
Yeah, celebrating Easter.
I saw them promote him.
They promoted him for playing in that next week, I guess, whatever they have.
So are they able to pick and choose?
I'd assume the bottom end guys are not,
but the guys that win are allowed to pick and choose
which ones they want to go to?
They set their schedule before the season starts,
and they set where they're going to go.
What if you get hot, though?
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm sure you could enter tournaments.
If you're a good player,
they'll let you come into any tournament, I'm sure.
That's what I'm saying, though.
I think in that sport, you've got to get while you're in i think you gotta go
you gotta go like jordan right now if he's gonna continue to play like that he needs i'm excited
to watch him go here because it feels like he is gonna get hot his swing looked confident again
felt like him and the teacher uh were kind of bickering a little bit but they ended up on
good side of things i'm pumped for jordan especially if he does win, because that's basically what Scotty Sheffield did.
He won all those tournaments leading up to the major,
and then he was playing his best golf when the major rolled around.
So, yeah, it wouldn't make sense to just take a couple weeks off here after a win.
Okay, so the major, I'm just realizing this.
I should have known this as somebody that watches golf whenever it's on TV,
and I got nothing else going on.
I celebrate it and talk about it and play it like once every four years.
Who has the fucking time?
We played nine holes yesterday.
Who plays 18?
How the fuck do you stick around for another nine holes?
I have no idea.
The major is like the pay-per-view
and then there's like a month lead up to it?
Yeah, pretty much.
So it's like WWE again.
Yeah.
All right, got it.
And they switched them around.
It used to be...
Are they all in the area of where the major is?
The tournaments around it?
Yeah.
They normally start the year, I believe, on a West Coast swing,
and then they come to Florida, and then that's how it kind of works.
And then once the summer comes around,
they'll start going to the northern cities and stuff like that.
Yeah, because of the weather.
But it used to be Augusta, and then the Open,
and then U.S. Open, and then PGA Championship.
And people started not caring about the PGA Championship,
so they now put it between Augusta and the Open.
The Open over there at Oakmont, obviously.
And then they have the playoffs at the end.
And which one do you have by your house where the people stay at your house
who are really good at golf?
The Memorial Tournament, yeah, is just a couple minutes down the road from me.
And that's an event.
That's not a major.
No.
Sometimes that course will host a major.
Will host a major?
That course in Ohio will sometimes have the U.S. Open.
How many majors?
Five?
I don't think that.
Or PGA?
Four majors.
Which one's your favorite, AJ?
I don't care.
What?
Jesus.
Come on.
Okay.
Masters.
Nice.
Way to go.
All of them.
I'd love to win them.
Okay.
All right.
Are you ever going to?
No, I don't really play golf a whole lot.
Yeah, me neither.
People are saying, though, on the course that your money's safe.
Only, no, it's not.
No.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
How's your confidence?
Where's your confidence level?
We're good.
Pretty high, honestly.
Yeah, I hit the ball very far.
Yeah, I feel pretty good. i don't need the bugle boys
pumping your game up i know you were there what are you gonna say we know you're not gonna go he
was god awful if he was if he would have been yeah i mean you have to keep the honest when you're
honest like for instance there was this one particular hole it was a par three where bruce
had a rough time yeah a lot of us did had to to keep it real. Had to keep it real there.
Like, there's a couple times where you've got to keep it real with a golf game.
But first time out on grass, no warm-up.
I felt very good about it.
Gumpy rode around with me and kept my spirits high, too, by the way.
Nothing better than being out on the course with the lads.
That's right.
Yeah, he was a pretty good caddy.
He didn't say a single thing about golf.
But I said, I hit a good shot.
I said, are we golf golfing gumpy appears to be
i died laughing this is awesome it was a good time out yeah it was nice little lunch after
for the lads we did a bunch we had a little day we had a little day but anyways yeah i feel good
i feel good good i think you should what is is it? I'm glad. Scratch Golf Tips, the memes.
Yeah, and they have been helping.
Scratch Golf Tips on Instagram.
I follow it.
And that one's going to make me a scratch golfer.
That's because they give scratch golf tips.
So like, they'll say, thank you.
This is like a golf pitch. Being a scratch golfer is not going to do anything for your $20 million bet.
Yeah, it is.
What do you mean?
I mean, you're going to have to be much better than scratch.
No, you don't even know.
You have no idea.
Wait until those courses get shorter whenever I'm in the old person,
the championship league.
But they would say that I'm in a good spot, I think.
They would say I'm in a good spot.
What?
Whoa!
What?
Somebody got paid, ladies and gentlemen,
in a time in which we don't know.
The Browns and cornerback Denzel Ward have a deal.
Five years, $105 million via Ian Rappaport.
Congrats to Denzel.
Highest paid corner in the history of the league.
Denzel Ward gets a bag.
Had no idea this was happening.
It was never made public by Denzel's side or by
the Browns about anybody being pissed
off about it. He's the highest paid
corner in history with 71.25
million guaranteed.
The Haslam family and Andrew
Barrett and the Browns said, we don't give a
fuck about everybody else's standards on how we're supposed
to pay people. We're going to give guaranteed money.
You'd be happy to be here and we fucking need
to win a goddamn playoff game again, okay?
You hear me? Let's do this thing.
Congrats to Denzel Ward. Congrats
to the Browns. But I like the fact that
we had heard nothing about this previously.
So they were doing business behind the scenes. Good on them.
Yeah, they've had to be working on this
for a while, you would think, with this
contract and how much money
it is. What is it? $74 or $71 guaranteed?
$71.5 million guaranteed.
Awesome.
That's awesome, man.
I mean, I don't know.
How do the Browns, where does this money come from?
Well, the money comes from the fact that the salary cap is fake.
It's a five-year deal is what it said.
Five-year deal.
So they could kick this thing down the road.
That's a long contract that they can make work.
Deshaun Watson's on $230 million guaranteed.
Now Denzel Ward, $71.25.
I apologize for correcting you earlier.
I was wrong.
$71.25 million guaranteed.
Browns going all in.
Browns are doing their thing.
You play well here, we'll pay you.
You don't, we'll pay somebody else a lot of fucking money to be here.
This is the Cleveland Browns of today.
We are tired of not winning in the AFC North.
Yeah, he was headed into his fifth year.
He was actually, I believe, Baker was number one overall,
and he was number four overall.
Yeah, and they paid Clowney.
They paid Watson.
So Andrew Barry subscribes to the salary cap is not real.
That's because he's young.
And he gets it because he sees what everybody else is doing,
and it's like, we can figure that out later.
Hey, we'll figure that out later.
If we win, guess what?
That all gets a lot easier.
So let's just keep on moving this thing down the road here.
Congrats to Denzel.
Do you think – is this just the new thing now?
Because I'm just thinking in my head like, okay, well, Jair Alexander is very good.
He's Packers cornerback.
There's no way they're going to give him this kind of money, I don't think.
Like is that just – this is the new bar now for.
Well, precedent gets set.
Things start to happen.
If you want to win.
I'm going to sure ask for it.
For sure.
Especially now.
Hey, it's going to cost money too to keep talent and get talented people,
especially in this world where there are people separating themselves from others.
And this is an interesting time where those guys are starting to recognize it a lot more than it maybe did in the past.
Denzel Ward did
$71.25 million guaranteed
in the dark. We didn't even hear about this.
No clue. And now, like, J.C. Jackson
and Xavier Howard, you wonder how they're feeling.
Well, Chargers are pumped.
We'll be back in four minutes.
We got Ezekiel joining us.
He's Elias' younger brother, AJ.
I know. I can't wait to talk with him.
Ezekiel looks very similar, but I'm glad that he's rest in blood.
All right.
We'll be back in four with Ezekiel.
Congrats to Mr. Ward on getting broken off.
You deserve it, pal.
There is a fly on your face in the studio, and it's tough for me to.
It is.
It's gone.
It's gone.
All right.
I'm sorry, but it looked like you had something on your face.
I thought it was on your side. Then, obviously, it was on ours. Yeah. Oh, it was the mouse, actually. It was Ezekiel's gone. It's gone. All right. I'm sorry, but it looked like you had something on your face. I thought it was on your side.
Then obviously it was on ours.
Yeah.
And it was the mouse.
Actually, it was.
That's because we had to open up the other computer because it's not just myself and
AJ Huck.
It's not just the toxic table in here.
It's not just one half of the hammer.
Cowboys tone digs in here.
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, WWE superstar,
a man who has to take a lie detector test tonight on Monday Night Raw on USA Network,
the younger brother of Elias, Ezekiel.
Yeah!
Thank you so much for having me on, dude.
Before we get into it, I got to say, Pat and all the boys,
this is a bit of a dream
come true for me you know growing up as ezekiel elias's uh younger brother you know i always kind
of looked up to you guys you know you were like the cool kids that i wanted to be around but you
know being younger elias kind of kept me off to the side and so now i'm here it's really great
we were talking about that ezekiel and uh thanks for mentioning it Nick was actually best friends with Elias in high school and obviously I was right miss him we
didn't remember we didn't remember seeing you so you where were you where you have the same last
name or right right right yeah we're both the same I was yeah I was in middle school you guys
are seniors you know there's like a big age difference we never really crossed paths but uh
I can remember picking up my brother with my mom one day when you guys were all playing poker.
And I stopped by with my mom.
And we saw you guys.
I wanted to get in there, but he wouldn't let me.
You know, I was there.
I was there.
Definitely.
I feel like we would have remembered that.
Wouldn't we, Nick?
We would have.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Good poker game.
Come on, it's Ezekiel.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
I know.
I know.
Hey, Elias, great poker player, by the way.
Elias, great poker player.
I don't know if it runs in the family,
but AJ here has a real question,
as does Nick.
Like, where the hell is Elias?
We know he's a drifter.
He used to disappear for long portions of time.
He used to come back to school and be like,
how's this guy not fucking suspended?
He just missed a month of school, but that's just who he is. He used to come back to school and be like, how's this guy not fucking suspended? He just missed a month
of school, but that's just who he is. He's always better.
Have you seen him? Have you heard from Elias
in some time?
It's been months since I've seen
my brother, man. And I do, honestly, I
miss the guy.
Despite all the
trouble he laid to cause,
he was actually quite a good brother to me.
So I miss him, but he's out doing his own thing. You know know how he is he'll pop back up when it feels right uh but in the
meantime you know i'm here dude i'm here i'm his younger brother and i'm having a great time wwe
well you look great honestly i don't know what all the fuss about why people are questioning
all of this i see it clearly like obviously the younger brother you're big strong dude you have a
now you have a lie detector test tonight live from kevin owens are you worried about that at all and why
why does this guy kevin owens get to even put you through this right it's really ridiculous you got
to imagine i mean pat you could probably relate it's like i'm living out my dream and then this
guy's accusing me of being a liar and you know on top of that you know he's got to be the biggest liar in the whole
wwe if you ask me yeah i got nothing to hide man so i'm ready for this lie detector test and i'm
going to show the world that i am ezekiel elias's younger brother what are you like in the ring i
has this been your your dream your entire life to be in the wwe and is it because of yeah full
on full life yeah whole life absolutely yeah i you know
i'm explosive man you know i watched my brothers so i'm sure you'll see similar movements we got
the same genetic um you know you're gonna see you know soon enough i can't wait to have my first
match well good luck on the lie detector test tonight we have a couple more questions if that's
okay ezekiel of course yeah yeah go ahead ty i you say you're not
worried about tonight but i mean ko clearly has ulterior motives here you know i mean he's saying
everyone else is crazy like do you have any contingency plans if this lie detector test
maybe says something that you're not expecting it to say well well look i want to make sure that
it's run fairly it's the wwe you never know what kevin owens may have up his sleeve but
uh you know if i gotta throw down i'm always ready to do that but but i'm hoping it's just
like a wholesome honest test we can get to the bottom of this for everybody do you play the
guitar as well does music run in the family or no yeah music i got the musical gene as well you
know i can do all that you know guitar was more elias's thing and i've
got my own thing but i'm sure if i put my mind to it i could pick that thing up and play a little
bit oh what does the wwe stand for oh hey man it kind of brings up some memories of my brother
who's gone right now you know it stood for walk with elias but but he's gone bro we'll we'll come
up with something new, though.
Ezekiel, how's the family feeling about not knowing where Elias
is? Is your mother worried? Have you talked
to her? What's the entire
thought behind that?
The family was a bit
torn up, but this is
Elias. This is what he does.
On the other hand, they're so proud of
me. They're so excited. They can't
wait to see me. They gather around the TV
for Monday Night Raw, just like I
used to when I would watch Elias.
It's a great full circle thing.
That's amazing.
On one hand,
where the fuck is your kid?
On the other hand, it's like, wow, look how
happy we are. That's crazy.
Look how young he
looks too it's unbelievable good yeah ezekiel elias's younger brother um tonight when ko hooks
you up to the lie detector machine how about you pull a little role reversal hook him up
and then ask him how many wrestlers moves he steals to you
hell yeah okay you know what i didn't i didn't even strategy. I was just going to go out there and be honest.
But, yeah, thank you for that one.
I'm going to keep that in mind.
If I've got to hook him up, we'll put him on the spot.
What do you do in your spare time?
Ezekiel, just wrestle all day?
Yeah, pretty much watch wrestling, focus on wrestling,
talk to people about wrestling.
It's really become my total life.
What did you do before this until you
finally got your big opportunity here to step
in the ring? Yeah, no indies have said
they've seen you.
I'm very fortunate. I ran
into one of the higher-ups here at
WWE. I introduced myself,
Ezekiel, Elias' younger brother.
He told me to
stop by Raw one time. Sure
enough, it was right after your big night, Pat.
Congratulations on that, dude.
Loved it.
Thank you, Zico.
Just a couple guys from Plum, you know.
That's right, brother.
So I showed up at Raw, and I thought, you know,
Kev's out there doing his thing.
Let me go out and introduce myself.
And the company has just accepted me as one of their own.
It's really great.
I don't think that's necessarily true.
Do you think Elias is proud of me or no?
Is Elias proud of you?
Yeah, for my match at WrestleMania, I think.
Did you hear from him?
I'm sure deep down he is.
I didn't talk to him, but, you know,
he always had that jealous streak going on.
He always was upset.
I'm sure he's got a song in mind for you, one of the things.
What happened to the two documentaries
they were shooting on him at the same time?
Are they still shooting and following him?
How come you were never in any of those?
Okay, look. If you want me
to say it, Elias was embarrassed of me.
What? No.
Look, it was
always my dream to be a WWE superstar
and he got there
first and he did his thing.
I was proud of him, but he knew I was coming up the ranks, and I was going to be there one day,
and he really seems like he held that against me.
All right.
Well, good luck tonight, okay?
We're all pulling for you, Zeke.
All right?
It was so great.
Thank you very much.
Nick, do you have any questions for the little brother that we never got to really meet, it sounds like?
Not so much a question.
I just wanted to compliment him on being such a wholesome and truthful role model to the young kids.
And,
you know,
a lot of people make comparisons to the looks and the family.
Elias had that big shaggy,
gross beard.
Ezekiel,
this clean shave.
And he kind of looks like,
like Scott Stapp,
the former front man.
Yeah.
Cause Elias,
everybody was like drifter,
homeless guy.
Remember when they were saying that they were like, that guy kind of looks like he's living in a dumpster. What's that all about? And everybody's Yeah, because Elias, everybody was like, drifter, homeless guy. Yeah, that's right. Remember when they were saying that?
They were like, that guy kind of looks like he's living in a dumpster.
What's that all about?
And everybody was like, no, no, he's actually a really attractive guy.
He's super yoked.
Remember people were – we got upset when people were saying that.
Yeah, yeah.
It just wasn't fair.
Yeah, it wasn't fair.
I hope we get to hang out one of these days.
That's been a dream of mine.
And let me tell you, there is no higher compliment than being compared to the lead singer of creed guys
ladies and gentlemen
good luck tonight uh let's get out of here hashtag pms happy birthday connor uh with two n's yeah O-R. C-O-N-N-O-R.
You looking to win.
How old are you?
27?
27 people will win $599.
Or $27.
That's probably better.
599 people will win.
No, 27 people will win $599.
Use the hashtag PMS.
Happy birthday, Connor.
And say something nice to somebody and your cash tag in there.
Look at you.
Your birthday spreading positivity on Twitter.
How about it?
How about it?
That's you.
Gotta love it.
COVID's dead.
How about it?
How about it?
Great day.
Hey, on their death day is your birthday.
Let's have a day.
Hashtag PMS.
Happy birthday, Connor.
Put your cash tag in there.
Say something nice to somebody.
Maybe Connor, by the way.
It is his birthday.
No, it's all right.
And what's that?
No, it's okay.
AJ, if anything.
And take a screenshot right now.
Ah!
No.
I don't have it.
All right.
I don't have it.
All right.
Oh, that looked light.
That looked like a fake title.
That was too light.
You had my other one, by the way.
No, it was mailed out.
All right.
Happy birthday.
Your helmet's on backwards, too.
Oh, shit. Wouldn't want you to look like a stooge, right?
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