The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 645 - Channing Crowder, The Gypsy King Tyson Fury, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 19, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about what the USFL needs to do to be successful, AJ Brown removing Tennessee from his bio amidst rumors that he and the Titans are working on a long t...erm extension, if any of these young receivers looking for an extension will get anything done before the draft, Carolina Panthers Offensive Coordinator Ben McAdoo stating that Sam Darnold is the starting Quarterback for the Panthers and then immediately walking those statements back, and much more. Joining the progrum is 6 year NFL veteran at LB, co-host of The Pivot with Fred Taylor and Ryan Clark, and friend of the show, Channing Crowder. Pat and Channing chat about what they've been up to at The Pivot, how much the game and players have changed since he was in the league, why the NFL is king, pissing his pants every single game of his career, and much more in a hilarious conversation (22:59-54:31). Later, friend of the show, current WBC and The Ring Heavyweight Champion of the World, the greatest Heavyweight boxer of all-time, The Gypsy King, Tyson Fury joins Pat and AJ to chat about his title fight against Dillian Whyte this weekend at Wembley Stadium in London, how he anticipates the fight going, what is next for him and whether or not he's really mulling retirement, his post fight plans, and much more (1:07:22-1:21:15). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. It is Tuesday, April 19th, 2022. And this sports show shall begin right now. Can't thank you enough for joining us here at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. I'd like to take this time to make a formal announcement after I made a formal announcement on Twitter last night. I'm officially up to something. I'm up to something. Listen, we're up to something. I'm up to something. Listen, we're up to something.
Starting point is 00:00:28 I'm up to something. And anytime I'm up to something, that normally means we're pretty deep in the middle of conversations about something happening that will change this show forever. Hell yeah. This one's pretty exciting. Hell yeah. This one's a pretty big deal. This one's pretty exciting. Hell yeah. This one's a pretty big deal.
Starting point is 00:00:46 This one's pretty awesome. The last time we did this, obviously the FanDuel deal. Before that, it was the WWE. I mean, there's a lot of things that could potentially be happening. There's a lot of guesses last night on Twitter. I'm excited for that. I'm eager to hear what the people think. And I'm not sure when this announcement will come.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I think for the last i'm up to something with fan door you know that thing was like a three month stretch because there was a lot that went into that there was a lot that was happening there was a lot of conversations there was a lot of negotiations that were taking place when i thought we were done we were nowhere near done so that was a little bit of you know amateur hour from me as the person that handles the business directly. This time, though, it's going to be much quicker than that, but we don't know when it's going to happen. But I am pretty proud of this one.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Hey, we are up to something. I'm excited and thankful that you're here today. We've got great guests coming. Host of The Pivot, Channing Crowder, will join us. Six-year NFL vet. He's hysterical. He's hilarious. Can't wait to chat with him about his life, the show, the pivot, and everything he's got cooking.
Starting point is 00:01:48 And also, the Gypsy King, Tyson Fury, will join us in an hour and ten minutes. Yeah, just days ahead of his ass-beating Adelian White, this upcoming on Saturday on pay-per-view at Wembley Stadium in front of like 96,000 people. Jesus. Sold out. How you doing? Keep it moving. That place is going to be electrifying.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Is it Tyson's last fight? Is he going to continue to fight? There's been mixed reports. All I know is 32 times that dude has stepped into the ring and he ain't never lost. 31 wins with one draw. An absolute badass of a human 6'9 deep thinker. Every time we talk to him, it's electrifying. We're very thankful that his team said,
Starting point is 00:02:21 hey, we want you to talk with Tyson Fight Week. We're doing it before I think anybody else. Thursday's the big media day. We're thankful. We're excited. Can't wait to chat with old Tyson Fury. Now, let's talk a little bit of USFL football with a man who watched his team, the Pittsburgh Maulers, last night. One half of the hammer.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Dad! Cowboys. Tom Diggs. That league's dead. I don't want to be that guy, okay? I like spring football. I love more football. I like the thought of guys getting an opportunity to put out good film
Starting point is 00:02:51 and maybe make it into the NFL because that is an issue. If you're not coming directly from college, there's really no feeder system. I guess there's always been the CFL, which is fantastic, but how many players actually go each year? I think it's in the single digits. Then you go back to the XFL. A couple guys made it there's always uh you know a benefit to more football happening and more film being had for players to potentially make their dream come true of making it into the nfl
Starting point is 00:03:15 there was no fans in the stands last night down there in birmingham and i don't know if that's what it's going to be like for the rest of the season because they're all playing in one city and i could see how the first couple games probably awesome. And then people at Birmingham go like, oh, we've already done that song and dance. Yeah, all good. But hopefully they'll continue to show up. This game was delayed because of a weather delay, but it being dead silent, not even having fake fan noise like we had in the middle of the COVID thing and being able to hear everything and the continuing issues with the quarterback play and the quality of play is going to be a problem.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Now, follow-up. We have learned, though, that quarterbacks might stink in the USFL because they're throwing like a weighted ball. Yeah, yeah. It's five ounces heavier, I guess, than a normal football. There's a chip inside of it as well, so the bladder is probably proportioned a little bit differently. It might be an awkward ball to throw.
Starting point is 00:04:03 It is definitely an awkward ball to punt and kick from what my sources are telling me from within the USFL. So not only is the league set up in an interesting fashion, not only are they only in Birmingham, not only do they have an incredible hard knock series that is following them around that is maybe better than the entire league itself. I mean, the storyline behind the scenes
Starting point is 00:04:23 about the chicken salad and the pizza thing, maybe the best thing to ever come out mean, the storyline behind the scenes about the chicken salad and the pizza thing. Unbelievable. Maybe the best thing to ever come out. Yeah. At the end of the day, that might be the best thing that comes out of the USFL. No offense to USFL. Love Todd Haley. Love how he's coaching down there.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Jeff Fisher looks so cool when he was doing an interview. He had boots on and jeans. He looks fucking sweet. But the ball stinks, apparently. The atmosphere is probably going to continue to stink as you go on week to week. I don't know if anybody from Pittsburgh is driving down to Birmingham to watch that team, but I don't know about this league, Todd. I do not know about this league, and we all had high hopes for it.
Starting point is 00:04:57 It doesn't feel like that's going to be the case at all, Todd. No, and I was watching last night, and the Maulers had their turnover hammer, which was pretty cool. That's sweet. But I also didn't know that we were playing the greatest player in USFL history last night in Jordan Ta'amu. Yeah. So that was going to be tough to start with.
Starting point is 00:05:16 But, no, even with Ta'amu, I think what was the final score, 17-3 or something around that? Real quick, though, when I heard Jordan Ta'amu was playing, when I saw him and they said he went five for five, walked right down the field, I'm like, we actually said yesterday the reason why the XFL was even surviving because Jordan Ta'amu had been put on primetime TV with P.J. They're going to have to do that a lot because it seems as if
Starting point is 00:05:37 they might be the only team that can really play football. Yeah, and even with him, it was still tough to watch. And like we said yesterday, if the quarterbacks – I like your idea. I think, like, if you're coaching or if you're playing high school football and you don't have – like a lot of these high school football teams, they don't have a quarterback that can throw. Put the athlete back there. You put the best athlete back there.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Let him mix. That's what the USF, I feel like, needs to happen if they don't have Jordan Tamami on their team. Well, Jordan Tamami, too, also probably the best athlete on the team. Correct. Yeah. I mean, that's a win-win there. He can move. But the football is getting a little thin.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And I thought USFL might carry us a few weeks. We'll get to the playoffs. We'll come back in the playoffs. That's right. We're not going to talk about it a lot just because I feel bad. It is a good opportunity for a lot of guys. But they're going to have to figure some things out. They're going to have to figure some things out.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Maybe just all behind the scenes. So have the behind the scenes be in the prime time. Yeah. And then have the games be tough to find. Reality TV show. Yes. That's perfect. USFL is a reality TV show.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Just like they already did. Oh, my God. Because they can show us highlights from practice. Yes. We get football in on it. Maybe that's what they are. They should start doing that. We're not an actual league.
Starting point is 00:06:44 No. Listen, don't try to watch our games. Games are secondary. Games are actually just on in the middle of the day in Birmingham during the week because there's nothing going on. You're going to want to hear about the chicken salad. You're going to want to hear about the pizza. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:55 You're going to want to hear about the hotel amenities. That is what. Did we just cure the USFL? Start letting whoever was making those documentaries, the behind-the-scenes stuff, have them get the primetime game slots. They did a good job. Yeah. 8 p.m. on Fox.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Oh, my God. We just fixed it. Man, good for us. Nice. Good for the USFL, too. Did you hear the team that the Maulers were playing had a chicken salad check on defense last night? Did they really?
Starting point is 00:07:18 Oh, yeah, yeah. Love that. Who was the coach of the team? Do we know? It was probably some hilarious human being. It was a coach who was coaching the team opposite of the maulers okay thanks good coach thanks for looking into that seems like you really paid attention uh toxic table at ty schmidt at boston connor uh we don't we don't need to spend more time on usfl we hope it succeeds yeah hope so now
Starting point is 00:07:39 the rocks gonna come in and probably oh yeah right on its throat yeah if you oh yeah yeah they're done for for sure no well it's not good for the people that are working there though no no definitely not teasing we don't like any of that but quick follow-up good news so i think we were ahead of the game yesterday i think we reported it whenever there was only a thousand retweets on the tweet okay at the time but mass mandates have been completely lifted from everything yeah how about we were early. What? We were early. How about us? We were early on in the game. A lot of people only heard us break the news.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Now, follow-up. I got a lot of people telling me they're not watching our show anymore. What? I think today there's a chance we have zero people watching because there's a lot of comments in my Instagram when I posted it. A lot of comments on Twitter that we are a bunch of fucking doofuses and we want people to die.
Starting point is 00:08:26 So with that follow-up, does Uber want people to die? Does Lyft want people to die? Does American want people to die? Does Alaska Airlines want people to die? Does Delta want people to die? Does Frontier want people to die? Southwest want people to die?
Starting point is 00:08:40 How about Ryanair? Does Spirit want people to die? Legion? Every single thing those people post, those companies post, are people following up telling them that they want people to die? How come that is the automatic go-to? Whenever we report like, hey, it has been voided that you don't have to wear a mask, that, depending upon which stats you look at, will save your life or not.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Right. How come we're getting held to a higher standard than all these other people? What is going on? Are we killing people directly because we talked about this yesterday? I don't believe so. I am believing.
Starting point is 00:09:14 That's not what I was told. Boater Garage, 2715. Yeah, he was very active. Not happy. Not happy. I am pretty surprised that people are still this dug in on this. Me too. I did not know this came out of nowhere. This is the first time we talked this dug in on this. Me too.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I know this came out of nowhere. This is the first time we talked about COVID in a long time. I think, honestly, this is the first time we've been in a COVID conversation. I had no clue that there's still people that were very pissed off at me for relaying a message from the AP through breaking 911's Twitter account that the mass thing can't happen anymore. It's been voided. There's people still pissed. Like, oh, 500 people a day are still dying.
Starting point is 00:09:48 You want to be one of those 500? What if that was your family member? I'm like, well, fuck. How many people a day are dying from other stuff? Are we talking about every single number of people dying? Or are we going to start talking more about people living and surviving and getting through stuff? Because that's a much more positive outcome, I think,
Starting point is 00:10:04 than the super negative one. Why are people coming after me like I'm a fucking terrible person still? I'm tired of being told that I'm killing people. It happened a lot with Aaron Rodgers. I don't know how many people we killed, but I was told that was a lot. And I am very sorry about that. In this particular time, there are still people that are very pissed about the thought of not having to deal with COVID every single day of their lives. Why is that, Connor?
Starting point is 00:10:24 I have no idea. I mean, I really thought we were all on the same side. Are they better people than us? Absolutely not, because not to go back to the beginning of the pandemic, one of the prophets of the COVID vaccine was Merrill Hodge. And what did he say? What is the denominator? Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:42 When there's 500 people out here, too. What's the denominator? All right When there's 500 people on here, too. What's the denominator? All right. I thought we would be celebrating. Another year on this earth. It was your birthday yesterday. Yeah. My birthday.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Geez. And now you're still bringing out the same old 26-year-old Conor's bits and gimmicks. Grow up, dude. Grow up, dude. Neither will Hodge. Because Hodge gets it. Okay. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:03 He's got the triple down. 500. Sure, my God. 500. Sure, that's a lot, but when you put that number above 8 billion, that's not that big of a number. Okay? All right. I don't know how you guys were able to fall asleep last night. All the blood on my hands was just so messed up.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I couldn't get comfortable in my bed. Oh, this guy. Why don't you mute yourself? Well, for the first time in a long time, I slept without a mask on in my own bed. I actually slept pretty well. Somebody, I assume somebody that commented to me about how terrible of a human I was. Because, you know, we could get back to hopefully people getting over the fear every single day of maybe going outside and dying. Which is good for everybody. I think it just lifts up everybody's mood.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And also, by the way, being able to see somebody smile is like a fucking huge deal. I mean, it is like seeing people's ah i don't know like i think it's a big step that everybody should be happy about and that was not the case no that was not the case at all not everybody but i felt like there's a lot of people oh there was a lot of backing too i don't want to cheer on airplanes there's a lot of singing on airplanes yeah there's a trash bucket going down airplane aisles while people were flying hey you know how whenever you walked on here, we said that thing's got to be above the fucking nose. It's got to be below the fucking jaw. Okay? And make sure that thing's sat on you.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Remember, we were checking yours. Maybe even woke you up in the middle of your flight. Hey, you've got to lift that thing above your big-ass beak that you've got there. Okay. Which happened to me, by the way. Now we'd like to let you know that everything we said no longer matters. Right. You take that
Starting point is 00:12:25 thing off your face and you throw it away throw it away actually singing yeah yeah it's crazy feels like the world came together but there's still going to be people that are pissed off we don't let them know it's okay that you're mad it's okay you're feeling the way you're feeling we just hope someday you join us back in life knowing that you could die and like you might not be healthy forever and every single thing you might get allergies like i got this year and it became a nightmare you might get a cold i got a flu a couple times it had me hey listen to this it's gonna sound bad it's gonna be like i was on poncho karma we're talking about out of the attic and the basement had to battle through it got through to the other side it may be just maybe
Starting point is 00:13:03 uh you'll be happier knowing that some bad shit might happen to you, but you're going to survive and exist. And that's all that matters. Yes. We're back. We're back. We're back. We're back. Like you said, when that guy was walking down that aisle of the plane and singing that jingle and saying,
Starting point is 00:13:21 Throw your mask in the bag. Throw your mask in the bag. Throw your mask in the bag. I figured everyone would be like, oh, okay, if the folks working on the airplanes are okay with it, then we should all be okay with it. But you got to remember, the people on the airplanes aren't as smart as they are because the people on Twitter, they watch somebody that's much smarter than all of us say their ideas. There's a lot of people not happy about the federal judge voiding this. And my big question is, we didn't know who the federal judge was.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Learned a lot about the federal judge, by the way, after the announcement. Thank you, lady. Well, yeah. A lot of people not happy. Thank you, Supreme Justice Catherine. Okay, well, that's the thing. I don't think she is. I'm not 100% sure. I don't know what's going on, but I didn't know
Starting point is 00:14:01 anything about her. I've learned a lot of things about her. Number one judge in my power rankings. Well, see, there's a lot of people saying that. A lot of people saying that, and then there's a lot of people saying the opposite. A lot of people taking umbrage at that as well. There's going to be people that are going to be upset that you said that, from what I'm learning. You can take my power rankings how you want, but I am fair and honest.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yeah, okay. See, he's directly on how it affects his life directly, and that could change literally tomorrow with a new judge ruling that could potentially sway him into going that way, which is how a lot of people are. But there's a lot of people not. Could this have happened a long time ago? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I mean, I suppose. How come this just popped up out of nowhere, and the federal judge just said, yeah, actually, CDC, you're not allowed to actually mandate people to do stuff. I'm going to overrule that. I'm going to avoid it. Boom. How long ago could that have happened?
Starting point is 00:14:46 That's why this lady's like a pioneer. I think she's flying up the rankings. I don't know if she's the top. I mean, Dan Zeus digs. He's had power rankings for his judges for what? Dan Zeus is probably not happy he's getting dragged into this. No, no, no. Definitely not.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Dan Zeus is the power rankings god. I'm just saying. Yeah, for the NFL. I don't think he wants to die. She's like the Franz Ferdinand of judges. Sure. Or Magellan. I'm just saying. Yeah, for the NFL, I don't think he wants to die. She's like the Franz Ferdinand of judges. Sure. Or Magellan. I meant Magellan.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I do think he also has a decorated past that people aren't too happy about, but she is. If she's the one, when we look back on this, that said, you know what? Fuck it. I'm just going to come out today and say. I'm going to swing the gavel. I'm done with it. Yeah, and then all of a sudden, everyone just follows suit.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Everybody's like, yeah, hey, you know what? You're right. Hey, I'm going to swing my gavel, yeah, hey, you know what? You're right. Hey. I'm going to swing my gavel, too. We're done with it. We don't like it either. United, boom. Southwest, boom.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Delta, boom. American, boom. Frontier, boom. Southwest, boom. Alaska, boom. Ryanair, boom. All of them, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Russell Wilson, our three team.
Starting point is 00:15:41 She said it, not us. And then the government was like, yeah, T yeah tsa actually we don't need to check it either it's like holy shit how long ago could this have happened and uh why are people so pissed off and who knows we'll figure it out no hope everybody survives for the rest of their lives hope nobody's ever sick again hope nobody gets a sniffles hope nobody gets coughed not saying that's what that is i'm just saying as a whole i I hope nobody ever gets sick again. I hope you live forever. I hope all your dreams come true. I hope you make a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And I hope you're a very nice person to everybody around you at all times. Yes. But for us, it's down to the earth. That's what I hope happens. Yeah. Now, with that being said, that shit ain't going to happen. Okay? That shit ain't going to happen.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Not all of it. Some of it's going to happen. Some of it isn't going to happen. And the things that don't happen, they're great. A little bit of adversity. You battle through. You get tougher on the other side you learn from it you move on just like the last two years have been but let's fucking move on yeah let's remember the little things like when you're hopping on a plane and you're flying somewhere or you're traveling
Starting point is 00:16:34 somewhere and you can see somebody's face and whenever they say get the fuck out of my face you can see the whole thing as opposed to just the mask and it being muffled that's right you know like this is a big deal this is a big step let's take the little things and uh not make them such a afterthought these days you know that's why i think the big thing about covid was you started appreciating the little things and the finer things that's why we need to appreciate the usfl because there was one time where there was zero sports on anywhere you're right and we would be we'd be begging for this usfl reality show thing you're right well like you said, we need to continue the reality show aspect and maybe make the football secondary.
Starting point is 00:17:07 What if they did focus on the reality show? It's smart. It's already been hit. Incredible first episode. It's the first episode, pizza or chicken salad. You ask 90% of the people that have heard about the USFL and it happening, what do you remember about it? That guy got fired because he wanted pizza over chicken salad.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Well, now apparently he's saying the team's lying. Well, the team came out and said that. He apologized. He called back our coach and said he was sorry, by the way. And he quote tweeted that and was like, oh, now they're lying. I believe this is his exact quote. Exactly. Boom.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Episode two. Boom. Reality show. What happened with the chicken salad or the pizza? While that's being focused on, let's go to another practice with the chicken salad or the pizza? While that's being focused on, let's go to another practice with the Pittsburgh Maulers who lost 17-3 to Jordan Ta'amu. And it's, we got to figure out how to fucking stop quarterback. And then you do a couple of practice sessions,
Starting point is 00:17:56 couple of highlights, couple of lowlights, maybe a scrap or two. While that's getting figured out, let's go over to the Birmingham Bears. Boom, go over to the Birmingham Bears. Boom. Go over to the Birmingham Bears. They got a birthday party. In a hotel. In a hotel.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Yeah. They're having a good time. That's right. And at one point, the leader of the team gets up there and says, this is what we need to do in the next seven games. Show some highlights. Show some lowlights. Boom.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Cheers. Well, that camaraderie is being built. Let's see what's happening with the Alaskan Frontiers. That's right. Go to the Alaskan Frontiers. Guess what right. Go to the Alaskan frontiers. Guess what they're doing? They're fishing because they're fucking having an off day. This is the show.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah. This is USFL. They should definitely still play games. Sure. Definitely still play games. Mic up everybody so they have access to all the conversations. Yeah. You can use it during these episodes.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Boom. Right. Just so we can put these in the fucking episodes. Like the football game should be at like 7 a.m. on Tuesdays. Boom! Nobody cares. Yeah. Have it streaming maybe on Twitch or something.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Right. On YouTube. Have it streaming somewhere. But the primetime thing should be, hey, look at what's popping off with this league. Let's even get into the finances. Because we're all interested in these spring league finances, because they seem to, and we don't want to, listen, past outcomes do not predict future things.
Starting point is 00:19:14 That's right. There's some saying in there. Some, yeah. All of the, most of these spring leagues have ended financially in disaster. Yeah. Okay, absolutely. A couple bankruptcies, a couple fraud cases. I mean, there is a lot. I want to hear disaster. Okay, absolutely. A couple of bankruptcies, a couple of fraud cases. I mean, there is a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I want to hear some of that too. Yeah. I want to hear about the front office talking about the ticket sales and the three and a half million viewers. Hey, three and a half million viewers. I want to be in the meeting whenever they're talking about that. I think that is how we fix the USF. Them getting the bill for the first week at the hotel,
Starting point is 00:19:42 how expensive it is, and having that guy be like, oh, Jesus Christ, how are we going to do this? How are we going to do this for eight more weeks? Have that guy sweating. We're already underwater. We can't pay at least two-thirds of the rosters right now. We've got to do something big. Bang, car wash.
Starting point is 00:19:57 So now, every team is running a car wash and selling coupons. Coupons. I feel like the Myrtle Beach Mermaids had some of these ideas with Kenny Powers. Exactly. Those games are not going to sustain viewership. Maybe they can get Bama.
Starting point is 00:20:18 They need to. Bring in MTV. I mean, if Fox isn't going to get it done Then have MTV Put it on their channel I'm like NBC has it Sure Fox has it Spike TV Fubo TV
Starting point is 00:20:30 Boom Boom Paramount Plus Everybody should have Their own Their own 24 Yeah Oh my god
Starting point is 00:20:36 We would like to document One team Sure You're paying us for it But we We are not paying No We want the ballers
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah We want the ballers No we do not. Is there a halftime show? We already got four episodes in the can. I think there was four. I don't want to fucking be associated with that team. I mean, that team was just stealing it in Pittsburgh. You want pizza?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Pizza is literally every other meal in Pittsburgh. And then, no, you can't have it. You've got to have chicken salad. You're right. We do need the pizza. We've already brainstormed the entire season. Can we get some halftime shows? That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Diggs mentioned corgi racing. Maybe someone wrestles a bear. Maybe someone jumps a couple school buses. See? Hot dog eating contest. This is what I'm talking about. Corgi was on ESPN 2 last night. That's why that was talked about. I thought it was on halftime. A frisbee dog at least. Corgi racing?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Oh yeah. Big. It's huge now. It's catching steam. Chuck's too fat now, but when Chuck was little he was a little firecracker. He was pretty quick. Now he's too lazy. He sees a Chuck was little, he was a firecracker. He was pretty quick. Now he's too lazy. He sees a rabbit, he walks two steps, barks, and turns around. Used to chase that thing all the way out of the yard, all the way down the street, which
Starting point is 00:21:33 not great, so he's kind of eaten his way out of that. He's a lot more disciplined now. That's good. That's very nice of him. Corgi race, I know for sure. Maybe a concert, they can talk about how much it costs. Oh, dog, frisbee dog, they poop on the field, obviously. To lay in the game and clean up the poop. See, this is what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Let's talk about some real stuff. I mean, that was real. We just saved the league. Dwayne Johnson, I don't think your league's going to have to operate that way. USFL? USFL definitely does. Might be stuff to draw from it. I don't know if they know that yet or not. Let's get to a break. We got Channing Crowder on the other side.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Okay, let's reset this whole show. Okay. I did not expect to go down that. We covered all the main stuff. We just completed six episodes of the fucking first season of this. I would call that nothing. I was watching last night. I was watching last night.
Starting point is 00:22:23 They have no crowd. Okay? They had 20 people mic'd up on the game. I was watching last night. I was watching last night. They have no crowd. Okay. They had 20 people mic'd up on the game. And then they had two commentators and a sideline reporter. And at one point, they all had something to say. And it was somehow the quietest game of all time and the noisiest game of all time at the same time. And then there was bad flow. I was like, all right.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I want this to work. I hope they listen. We need the documentary. Please listen. Someone get to Davion because he's the face of the league for me. He's not even on the team anymore. Chicken salad guy. He's the face of the USFL.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Big time day as we get a chance to chat with co-host of the Pivot, six-year NFL vet, third-round draft pick, absolute legend and champion on the internet. Ladies and gentlemen, Channing Crowder. What's up, dude? What's going on, baby? Y'all good? Hey, how are you?
Starting point is 00:23:18 You guys are killing it on the Pivot, man. Appreciate it, man. We got right now the Shaq premiere is out right now on youtube so we got shack last week in atlanta so it's a good interview man we're having a good time doing it bro are you enjoying it because i remember talking to you guys at the super bowl and you fred and ryan obviously an incredibly tight group good friends you knew that there was going to be a lot of work that was going to have to go into this to build the pivot back up or build it up you guys have been killing it.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Have you been enjoying the hell out of it? Man, it's fun. And especially with good people. Y'all know how it is. I watch y'all show all the time. And I know y'all are all tight. So, you know what I'm saying? You get with your boys and y'all have a common goal.
Starting point is 00:23:56 And you just grind towards it. You know what I'm saying? We're like a traveling band, we say. So, we go everywhere. Dallas, L.A., Vegas, New York. We run around with each other. But we really enjoy each other's company. So, it's almost like a boys trip. And we get to work a little bit in Dallas, L.A., Vegas, New York. We run around with each other, but we really enjoy each other's company. So it's almost like a boy's trip, and we get to work a little bit in it, man.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's the greatest thing ever. A lot of great feedback, man, and just meeting good people. You know how it is, man. You're just like at Super Bowl. You're walking down the street, bro, and you get to talk to, you know, everybody. Von Miller ran up on us. Derrick Henry ran up on us. Hey, man, we love the show.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You know, different people. You know, you showed us a bunch of love, Pat, man. It's just, it's a great experience, but just really meeting the people and talking to people, bro. We love it. It's the dumbest thing of all time that this can be a job at this stage of life. And it's awesome. We love it.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I think it comes through that you guys are enjoying it as well. In the clips, you guys get great shit out of everybody. I mean, Shaq, that dude's everywhere. I assume the conversation that he had with you guys are enjoying it as well. In the clips, you guys get great shit out of everybody. I mean, Shaq, that dude's everywhere. I assume the conversation that he had with you guys will be one of his best conversations of all time. Anything unexpected other than your 69 joke? That hit, by the way. Hey, it hit.
Starting point is 00:24:57 That joke hit, by the way. Anything come out? Oh, yeah. Hey, Pat, his big ass K69, I know what's the matter with me, man. How you going to be her and she beat her? She's fun. You see, if he's doing his thing, she's looking at his belly button.
Starting point is 00:25:11 So I don't know about him. But he, yeah, man, he actually is crazy. It was the first time somebody brought up his divorce from Shawnee. So he got into that and that actually got some traction. I think it's on Shade Room now. It's getting traction. But he actually talked about his divorce which you know like we we like to have fun play around you know i talk about the sex stuff all the time but you know talking to guys about real stuff real man stuff is kind of what it is and so that's the thing we have fun we talk sports but i want to get to know you as a human because like
Starting point is 00:25:41 like you did bro you transition you can't play ball no more you're a human being you're in this world and that's what we try to get out of people and him talking about his divorce so openly was very surprising to us and it was it was great he took he took full responsibility he said man i was out in these streets i was running yeah you know check it out it's on youtube now but he really opened up about his divorce and i was probably the biggest surprise that interview to me well that's a natural flow of a conversation too like if you're actually trying to talk to somebody and have a conversation with somebody you're going to hit on fun shit you're going to hit on some serious stuff you're going to get some life stuff i think that's why the modern era of conversation
Starting point is 00:26:15 has become you know so well liked because it's so different than all the shit we've seen in the past and also the guests that people get now on the Internet, the pivot gets that nobody else gets is amazing. Antonio Brown stopped by like full wide open in that conversation. When you're sitting down with him, what did you did you know him before that conversation? How much did you know of him? And after that convo, what are your thoughts on it? And do you think the team should sign him, Channing? Because you're one of the only people that have talked to him that any of us have seen on the Internet, you know? Yeah. Well, being in Miami, you, you cross paths with a lot of people. I say that. I party, man. I go, I party. I stay in the strip club. Me and my wife
Starting point is 00:26:55 were in the strip club to watch the Aerosmiths fight. Me and my wife go to the strip club together. I get out. I still have a good time. I'm 38 years old. I've ran past AB party with AB, but sitting down with him, he's a very interesting person. I would say it would take us... Floyd put up that thing where he was like the whole give him $20 million. If he messes up throughout the season, you can have the $20
Starting point is 00:27:17 million. We'll give you $20. If he doesn't and he helps your team like we know he can, he's still one of the best receivers in the world, then you got to give him $20. I don't know if the Floyd contract is going to work out exactly that way because I don't know a damn GM in the world that's going to sign that contract. But he is a very smart dude, but he's different. In fact, bro, you was in the league. You was in the locker room.
Starting point is 00:27:40 It's a lot of dudes out there that can play ball. They're just different humans. And then you give somebody that's already a little different over $100 million. Money doesn't change you. Money makes you more of what you already are. And I try to explain that to people on a damn daily basis. You give somebody $100 million, they're not going to be different. They're going to be more of exactly what they came out their damn mama's belly as.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And that's what AB is. I think you should have a chance. I don't know if the money's going to be crazy like that, to be honest. I don't think no team's going to put $20 million into him. But he is still a top-tier receiver in the world, I do believe. Well, whenever you think about the NFL just as a whole, it's like the 1% of all football players make it into college football. Then the 1% of college football make it in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:28:21 To become like a 5-, 6, 10-year legend vet, you know, it's like.00, you have to be unique, right? Don't you? Naturally, it is. You are a unique, special individual. There's just a lot of different ways to go about that. Hey, there is a lot of different ways to go about that. Antonio Brown's next album might be fucking banger after banger.
Starting point is 00:28:39 By the way, that thing might be, I think it's coming out tomorrow, I believe. Here we go. I don't know, I don't know. I saw a picture here. From the Pit, Not a Palace? No, well, I think it's on out tomorrow. I believe. Here we go. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I saw a picture here. From the Pit Not a Palace? No, well, I think it's on there. There we go. There's some remixes in there.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Style it. Fucking run it. I'll tell you about AB. AB enjoys AB. He walked into the interview. He had his own soundtrack playing. AB loves him some. They said, T.O., I love me some me.
Starting point is 00:29:04 AB loves him some him. But isn't it justified. I love me some me. A.B. loves him some him. But isn't it justified, bro? That's what I try to say. Isn't it justified? Like you said, the 1% of the 1%. And then to be on top of those 1%. So you're the best receiver in the world. Some people can deal with it, man. Like Brady does a great job.
Starting point is 00:29:20 You play with Peyton and them. I think they do a great job. You get some of these dudes, man, and now the world is telling me I'm different than a regular human being Man, I'm gonna show out If they would have gave me a hundred million dollars pay, I don't know what the hell I would Flat out damn crazy if they gave me a hundred million dollars. No stay humble Hey, stay humble. Stay humble. Act like you've been there before I ain't never fucking been there before We ain't been there before
Starting point is 00:29:47 None of us been there before When they gave me my first million I shit I haven't been there before And I went crazy and wasted it all up Partying traveling Strip clubs hanging out man I think my first Sign of bonus after taxes was
Starting point is 00:30:03 $588,000. And I was Bill Gates in my mind. I was paying Jeff Bezos with $588,000. And I went flat out nut. I'm glad I got a second contract. I might be under a damn bridge right now if I get my second deal. Because all that money was gone. Hey, the guy could hit, though.
Starting point is 00:30:23 They said, hey, spend that money, the guy can hit. Yeah, if I wouldn't have made the team my second year, I would have had zero. After my first year, I went. You know what I mean? And everybody was like, oh, no, you got to save it or whatever. It's like, I don't know how long I'm going to have this money. And all my friends are in debt because fucking school beat up everybody. So it's like, if I don't make the team, I'm at least going to get to,
Starting point is 00:30:43 I don't know, six of the seven continents. I'm going to go party a little bit. I gonna go everywhere i had a blast it's a lot easier to say hey manage your money uh whenever you maybe had it all your life uh it is not as easy as everybody thinks whenever and it's in the intro to this show what am i supposed to do look at something that i want that i can definitely afford and just go nah like how am i supposed to do that that's a real thing though because back in the day, you know, 80% of athletes used to go broke or whatever. That was the whole documentary. I think now, like the pivot, we're getting very lucky to do this, a lot of guys.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I think now everybody's story and vantage point is worth money, and I think a lot more people can get into our space, and I think it's going to be the future of ex-NFL players. Do you agree with that or no, Channing? Oh, 100%, Pat. I really do believe it. And God, like you're saying, you open the door, we're opening the door for people, and they see it.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Like, we got interviewed for free for years. Every goddamn time you walk in that fucking locker room, there's 35 people sitting there with cameras and mics in your face. They want your opinion. So now, let me just get my own platform if y'all want to hear my damn opinion so bad i'll give you my opinion and i will benefit i will monetize it i will do this because we've been through we've been through stuff that a lot of people haven't been through and that's why they want to talk to us that's why they're interested in our opinion
Starting point is 00:31:58 and i think a lot more guys do it honestly a bunch of dudes reached out to me i hook them up with my um our producer alicia zubikowski and she's a dog she was about a hard knocks and steve sable and then back in the day and i'll give him her number be like bro if you want to do something call her and she can guide you along the way like build a good team and that's the thing a lot of guys i think ex-ball players like the best of guys that depressed and you know they don't know what to do after after sports because everything was on us everything was on your goddamn leg everything was on my shoulders and when you're on that field and goddamn ladana and thomas is in the flat and i gotta tackle him there's nobody in the fucking world that can help me do that i think i think players are you know like you get caught
Starting point is 00:32:38 up in that you know i i have to do it i have to be the guy i have to you know generate whatever i generate bro get you a damn team get a good team together like me and freddie you know me and freddie left the other place came over you know got ryan you know met you know knew ryan but then brought ryan on and we knew he was a good dude we have a good production staff like talk to people communicate with people use good people and i think that's what players are finding out now is that our voices want to want to be heard people are interested in what the hell we're doing. And also, bro, you don't have to go out there and hit the game winning goddamn field goal or the coughing corner kick.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I'm trying to relate to the kicking. Yeah, I saw you. You're a real professional. Yeah, you don't have to. Yeah, I heard you did like three times. But all I mean, it's not just you anymore. Like, get you a team. Get you financial people.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Get you a good CPA. Get you a good goddamnpa get you a good goddamn producer if you want to do tv use people around you and build a team and that's what the fucking billionaires do why wouldn't we do it even if we don't have that kind of money build a damn team well it also helps for guys that like miss the team you know like that that team camaraderie part whenever people get away from the game you know they get a little jaded by the nfl but then they miss like hanging out having a bullshit like i'm very lucky for my guys here like every single day we bullshit get a chance and we're actually like you know playing and attacking something
Starting point is 00:33:53 together it's very similar to what was going on whenever we were playing football or whatever it's just a different avenue i'm excited for the future let's talk about the future of the nfl channing fuck you big money hey they know they're the king of the world right now too. Might have to, the Walton family's in on the Broncos. So I guess there's other venture capitalist things that are like, well, fucking Walmart's in on it. We might as well not even waste our money because they are going to outbid everybody.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Now the commanders, who knows what's going to happen with them even though they're saying they didn't do anything wrong. People are thinking they're going to give force. 11 years, $110 billion media rights deal. That's not even including the stadium deals and the merch deal and everything like that that they have going on there. The future of the NFL is great, which is good for us. What do you think about on field?
Starting point is 00:34:36 Do you think the future of the game is in good hands from when you played to what it is now and then what it will be like 10 years from now when we're looking at maybe like a $400 million salary cap for some teams, $300 million salary cap? Yeah. Oh, no, the NFL is healthy as hell. NFL is the fat cow. You look at a field and you see them little anemic motherfuckers and you see one of them fat cows walking around. The NFL is the fat cow.
Starting point is 00:34:58 They are not struggling. Bro, they net $9 billion a year, and it goes up every year. They're not hurting. I think the game, honestly, being a banger, being one of them old school guys, which I am, the whole kill the head, the body dies and all that, let's knock the quarterback out and bounty gate and all that stuff, that was the NFL we played in. NFL now is different.
Starting point is 00:35:21 You know what I'm saying? It's changing. And I think it's better for the game. I think the safety part is good, but it is great for the game. And one thing that people are surprised when I always talk about it, they're like, oh, but, you know, me and Zach Thomas talk about it. Zach Thomas tells me all the time, we'll be sitting with our kids playing in his backyard.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I go to Zach's house because his house is way got there. Big contracts. Yeah. Yeah. So we go over to Zach's house. We're sitting there, and he's like, bro, we would have got fined every game. Oh, yeah. Because when you have a fullback running through the B-gap,
Starting point is 00:35:49 I'm going to avoid his head. He's about to try to break my damn sternum. No, it was a whole different game. It was a whole different approach to the game. It was a whole different – that barbarian. Have you met some of these young players, Pat? Soft is a hard word, but they're not built like I want to go out there and embarrass another grown-ass man. I want to go out there and choke a bitch to death.
Starting point is 00:36:11 They don't live like that. They want to do their job and get their check and go play Roblox or whatever these young bastards do nowadays. I don't know what they're playing. But it's like talking to a Junior Seau, talking to a Joey Porter. Those guys I play with, Keith Traylor, Big Bonnie Holiday, those dudes. And now talking to these guys nowadays, bro, it's not a barbaric sport anymore. And that's good.
Starting point is 00:36:36 The business is booming, as A.B. always says. Business is booming. And the changes are where the world is going. So I hate Roger Goodellell i made it perfectly clear i can't stand roger goodell's ass but i do think he can run a business well because he's the watchdog for the 32 owner 31 owners you know green bay's publicly owned and all that but he's the watchdog and the voice of 31 owners that he works for he does not work for the players and that's why i can't stand his damn ass but he does know how to make money and that's why I can't stand his damn ass. But he does know how to make money,
Starting point is 00:37:06 and that's what everybody in the league wants, that damn money. Still a dangerous game. Still, obviously, collisions and everything. Just a completely different mindset. You know, we had James Harrison and A.J. Hawk on at the same time. And James Harrison, you know, he got like a million dollars behind. And A.J. is the most Ohio dude of all time. So, you know, he's just Rydell.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And he goes, oh, Adam's apple. Not to the chin. I was aiming for the Adam's apple or whatever. It's like, yeah, yeah, okay. That is not, that's a completely different mindset to the game. But I think the speeding, they're making the game faster. They're making guys faster. They're making everything kind of open up.
Starting point is 00:37:40 At some point, it'll become too much to then wall bitch about it, you know? Some point it'll happen. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's all offense, bro. they don't want no 17 to 10 game that shit's boring they want a 45 to 42 game that's what fans want that's what they want i hate i hate it for cornerback because if you damn breathe on somebody they're throwing a flag if you give you if you you touch his nipple they're gonna throw a flag like it throw a flag. Like, it's a different game. I understand it, but I still, as that OG, old mentality, I still look at it.
Starting point is 00:38:11 The Pro Bowl this year turned my damn stomach. They didn't even touch each other. They weren't even playing football. When you go over the edge, that gets to me. When guys start helping, tackling a dude and helping him up, don't help him up. Let that motherfucker go to the ground. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:38:32 But it's a whole new mentality. I'm telling you, if y'all have not talked to a 21, 22-year-old NFL player, go and talk to one and just see the difference in what they think. But the speed of the game, the points, that's what everybody wants. That's what people want. That's what fans want. That's about the money thing. So they're going to continue to legislate the game to score more points.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah, I retired five years ago in the locker room from when I first got in to five years ago was already making quite a shift. And although I liked the dudes, I enjoyed them as humans, it was just so much different. I mean, it was just night and day from what I came into it'll only continue to change as the world change I don't think there's anybody in the NFL pissing on themselves right now though you know what I mean that's old school baby the funniest thing in the world about this is that it reemerges about every two years. So I was doing, was it LT?
Starting point is 00:39:30 Somebody was getting put in the Hall of Fame. And, you know, they did the 30 for 30s or, you know, NFL Network did the little shows when guys got put in the Hall of Fame. And so I'm sitting down and we're talking about it. You know, this guy was good. Yeah, I played him in 06 when he had the rushing title. And I'm talking about LT. I think in Tom Brady, too, I've done a couple of them and i'm talking and so they start wrapping up at the end and the cameraman you know taking his little ear plugs out and all that crap and
Starting point is 00:39:53 then the guy looks at me he was like hey is there anything interesting that you would want to tell us about you know about like your career any any cool stories and i look i was like you know what i peed on myself every game they started pointing hey get back on the camera let's go they started they started shuffling around and i went and told the story and then so i tell it and it doesn't really get any legs for like a year year and a half two years then all of a sudden somebody runs it and it blows up and then it goes back down and it blows up again and then recently goes back down and it blows up again. And then recently it blew up again.
Starting point is 00:40:26 But what happened was. You see. I used to take so much shit before the game. Just the red line, the red bull, the B-12 shots, the tour house shots, the just banging emergencies. And anything that said energy on it, I was going to chug it Before I went on that field Take half a bike in before the game
Starting point is 00:40:47 Or half a bike in the halftime I was on shit when I was out there running around Toradol ain't a fight I'm telling you Toradol is one of the best drugs ever created All time All time that thing You walk into the locker room
Starting point is 00:41:03 Can't even bend your ankle, get that shot, listen to two damn songs on your iPad, next thing you know, you feel like you're nine years old again. There you go, baby. Hey, you remember. Hey, you remember. I know. Hey, Janet, you remember when they were going to try to get rid of Toradol?
Starting point is 00:41:21 They were going to try to get rid of Toradol. And they were like, all right, we're going to get rid of this. And the NFLPA, like it's the first time the NFLPA, I think it's because all the vets are on there were like, hey, you get rid of Toradol, you're going to lose about 60%, 70% of this league or whatever. All right, we'll back it off. We'll back it off on the Toradol talk.
Starting point is 00:41:35 For the good of everybody, we will back off the Toradol talk. But it's bad for you. Everybody needs to know it's bad for you. It's like, well, no shit. What it does to our body, we assume there's some rippling side effects that are going to happen 30 years from now it was unbelievable to her at all okay i know my kidneys and livers are shot then they try to sneak and give you the pills pat so you don't want to give me this out but you're gonna give me a big handful of pills it's the same it's the
Starting point is 00:41:58 same shit you're putting in my body it's like it was the craziest thing in the world. But I would take all that crap right before the game. And then you drink all that crap, you got to pee. So my rookie year, it was like the third game. And I had to pee. And the Dolphins, we shared the stadium with the Marlins. So they had the little dugout right behind the bench. So I go back in the bench and they had a little bathroom in the dugout.
Starting point is 00:42:25 So I go in the dugout and I hear the whole crowd go crazy. So I'm assuming that we scored. So I'm like, OK, we scored. I'm going to finish, you know, peeing and I'm going to come back up. We actually turned the ball. I think Ronnie fumbled. So then so then I come back out and we're on defense and I missed the series. And I go up and my head coach is like, man, what the hell were you at?
Starting point is 00:42:46 So they, they were like, no, you're out this series. So I look and I'm a rookie too. I'm playing bro. It was, we had a three, four, the four linebackers were me, Zach Thomas, junior say, I'm Jason Taylor. I was playing with legends and I'm my, my little young dumb ass is missing a series because I want to go pee at that moment. Moving forward. I said, I'm not leaving this field no damn more. I pissed right down my leg.
Starting point is 00:43:08 And I do it three, four times a game. I take a knee, pee on my leg, take some water, squirt it off, pipe it down, throw the towel away. And you're good to go. You would take a knee to do this? Hold on. You would take a knee. You weren't just doing it just standing there, right?
Starting point is 00:43:24 You weren't just standing like people do in the ocean when they go in the ocean and they get to about waist high and they just kind of stand there like they're at a urinal, but they're not, and it takes some people a little bit of time. For you, you were taking a knee and it was just flowing every single time easily, no problem. How are you doing? On the field, off the field? It would be on the field sometimes.
Starting point is 00:43:41 In the middle of a serious timeout, I don't want to run off, but I would take the knee. I would put the knee down depending on which way my swiper was hanging. So if my man was hanging left, I put the left knee down. My man was hanging right, I put the right knee down. And during the game, your little man boggles around a little bit. So I would adjust him and take that knee and put it down. The worst time was I forgot i had on i had a hamstring
Starting point is 00:44:05 injury i forgot i had on neoprene them neoprene uh little that little them pants and shorts and so i start peeing but i don't see the stream and i'm like oh damn i have these neoprene shorts on so now it's it's a gal a damn half a gallon of pee stuck in my crotch and it sloshed it around. As I'm walking, I'm feeling the pee slosh all around. And I was like, yeah, this might not have been a good decision with the hamstring injury. But after that series, I went and pulled the lineoprene and ran it on down the knee. A lot of big boys do it. A lot of linemen do it and they lie about linemen do it, and they lie about it.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Man, all I had to lie about. I peed on myself. That's what the hell happened. Yeah, but you had good intentions. You didn't want to miss another snap. For the good of the team, you were pissing all over yourself. For the good of the team, you were willing to go ahead and take a knee in front of 70,000 people and piss into your scuba fit, by the way, which is basically what a new one. It's a scuba.
Starting point is 00:45:06 You were the fucking best. You were a gem. Go ahead, Todd. Channing, I don't know if you've had the opportunity to watch the USFL yet, but to put it lightly, it absolutely fucking stinks. Do you ever think there's going to be a spring football league that works? Because they're trying to make it a feeder system. Is that ever going to happen, or is it just always going to be college you think it's good that's
Starting point is 00:45:29 what college is is a damn feeder system i said it and you know people got on my i told i said the rock is wasting his goddamn money with the xfl like it's not gonna work you are used to seeing the best athletes in the world they can't make it to the nfl so now you're gonna take the second third fourth fifth sixth, eighth stringers and put them on the field? I don't want to watch the eighth stringers play football. Bro, it's so bad, and I feel like, I feel snooty almost because I got to
Starting point is 00:45:54 watch NFL, I had like a front row seat to NFL football every single day. You were in it, obviously, when you were there, but I'm like a football snob now almost. It's like, this is terrible football. It is hard for me to get behind bad football, Jared. It's really difficult for me to do. It's hard for me to watch the MAAC.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Like that MAACs on Tuesday night, MAACs and crap. Bro, give me Big 10, Big 12, SEC for SEC is the man. But give me that. Like you said, I know what good football looks like. I know the USFL, the XFL. What was that? The damn AFF. They didn't even make it through a season season they folded in the middle of a season you are not the feeder program is
Starting point is 00:46:31 college if you're not good enough by the time you leave college this is what people tweet me all the time when i bring this up well what about the guys who didn't make it they didn't make it that's what happened they didn't make it that's why that's why they're not playing nfl they didn't make it like now you want to give them somewhere else to go and try to make it again? No. If they decided not to put you on the team, you're not on the team. And I'm not watching that crap. I'm not watching.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I watched Tom Brady for years, Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes now, Lamar Jackson, Deshaun. I'm watching those guys. I don't even know these quarterbacks in the NFL. Nobody knows their names. Haley, Todd Haley's there, I think. Like, I'm not, whoever said, oh, I need to watch Todd Haley. It's not going to be successful.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Whoever put money into it is wasting their money. I honestly feel that way about all those. I call them ancillary or secondary leagues. I don't think none of them are going to make it. Listen, Todd Haley did not deserve that, but he understands that that is the case. I do believe he understands that is the case. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Channing, you're talking about kind of the new NFL. Another new thing is kind of like the young offensive guru head coaches.
Starting point is 00:47:38 You guys got one in Miami with Mike McDaniel. What's the vibe like around town? Are people believing in him already, or what do we think? Oh, yeah, they love him. They love him now. The season ain't started yet. What's the vibe like around town? Are people believing in him already or what do we think? They love him. They love him now. The season ain't started yet. He's charismatic. He's fun. Him and Tua had a charity event. They're hugging and dancing together and crap, which is great because Brian Flores
Starting point is 00:47:56 didn't really believe in Tua. He was pulling his ass out for 50 for a couple years and then he was putting Jacoby Brissett in on fourth down and all kind of goofy crap. He didn't believe in Tua him his belief in tour he's trying to amp up that he you know he's going to develop tour that's what everybody wants to see because you know you got to have a quarterback to win but the proof's in the pudding like sean mcveigh was a genius then josh mcdaniels left he was supposed to be a genius before mcveigh and his ass ran right back to daddy in new england
Starting point is 00:48:21 from broncos because he wasn't ready for that crap. Them young coaches, they're going to work out. You're going to find a couple. But taking every guy that's ever been a part of an offense that's under 30, you know, 35, is this guru? Listen, boy, I've watched Andy Reid call games. I've watched Bill Belichick call games. These dudes aren't them. They got to prove to me they're them. I respect McVay.
Starting point is 00:48:46 I'll tell you that. McVay knows what the hell he's doing. Obviously, he won the damn Super Bowl. But yeah, McDaniels right now, I got to see what goes on before I say, yeah, he's the next one. You ain't the next one until you do it, until you succeed, until you win 11-12 games. And that's what I'm waiting for. McDaniel told us when he was in here, he said,
Starting point is 00:49:01 I am a zero-win coach right now in the NFL. Everybody, this is awesome. So I think he even acknowledges that. But most of these guys are going to fail. I mean, that's just how – just like the draft. Hey, just like the draft. Like, we are hype – now, we have a draft spectacular every single year, and it is our biggest show.
Starting point is 00:49:17 We have no idea why. Honestly, we have no idea. It's our worst show. We know nothing about any of these people, but it is a celebration. We have big-time guests when we do that. 50% to 60% of these guys in the first round aren't going to work. And then once you go to, like, the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh, it drops to, like, 80%, 85%, 90% of these guys aren't even going to make it into the NFL.
Starting point is 00:49:38 What do you think it is to separate it between the guys that make it in the NFL and the guys that don't make it in the NFL? Because everybody's fucking good, obviously. Why do you think some guys make it and some guys don't? Because the fail rate is much higher than anybody wants to talk about. I think that the mental toughness, but not just the cliche mental toughness, of walking in and going against those dogs, those grown dogs. And I say it this way.
Starting point is 00:50:03 In college, everybody's there. We all got a dome. We might have a little bullshit apartment somewhere. But we're all living the same life. You go out with these men that have seven, eight mortgages, divorced twice, paying alimony and stuff. Them boys is out there to get it in.
Starting point is 00:50:18 So I think the first thing is you don't know. I remember Keith Traylor. The first day of pads, he wouldn't talk to nobody. And everybody knew me and Truck were tight. So, they'd be like, line would come to me like, man, what's wrong with Truck? I said, Truck is about to go out here and whoop y'all's ass for three hours. I don't know if y'all understand what's about to happen when Big Keith Traylor at 380 gets pissed off in his zero.
Starting point is 00:50:46 And then he go out there and commence to whooping their ass and they wouldn't be ready for it. So I think part of it is the mentality of knowing this is a job and you're trying to take my job. And the other half is intelligence. There's been guys, bro, there's been guys that was faster, stronger, bigger, power, lifting the fucking weight room up. And then we get in the meeting room and they can't even put
Starting point is 00:51:01 a sentence together about football. They don't, what play is this, coach? a lead it's a lead it's the history of time what play is this it's a goddamn lead boy and it was just you just see the mentality where they don't really know football so you got to come in with that dog in you knowing that you're you're really when you get in the league you're taking another grown man's job, taking food off his table. And on top of that, the intelligence. I don't think, I don't know if college coaches are not capable of it, but I don't think college coaches teach football.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Like, I was lucky to have Charlie Strong in Florida. So Charlie Strong taught me football. I don't think a lot of these dudes teach guys football. I think they see a guy that runs a 4-4 and just let him go out there and run around in circles. Especially with how basic college defenses are, too. College defenses are so basic, and they're only getting more and more basic
Starting point is 00:51:50 with everybody doing the RPO. Like, all right, you're just going to read this, you're going to read that. And then once you get, you know, this fucking Aaron and Tom and Peyton just, like, looking around. Now Mac Jones, Joey Burrow seem to be these young guys that have the Josh Allen Mahomes set.
Starting point is 00:52:03 He's starting to understand defenses. They can start manipulating fucking guys' athleticism against them almost. Like, the more athletic guys almost end up in a worse spot because they're faster. So it's like, hey, dumbass, we're just going to get you to move right here and then bang! Right over your fucking head every single time. It was awesome watching Peyton
Starting point is 00:52:19 work, like, on a day-to-day. How they would set up plays just for one particular fucking guy that they knew was maybe weak or didn't know what was going on it's like our entire game plan is just to fucking manipulate this idiot right here and that's the thing that i don't think a lot of people understand there are young guys coming into the nfl oh yeah you're gonna find they're gonna find the bitch like i coach i coach i coach high school. I coached for five years.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Just stopped last year when the pivot and all that blew up. Hey, hell of a run. Hell of a run, coach. Hell of a run, coach. Way to go, Coach. Yeah, five years. That's all I have for them kids. Kids don't damn listen.
Starting point is 00:52:55 And they're standing pleasant nowadays. You can't tell them to knock nobody out. Well, coach, I might hurt myself. Get your ass out of here. I'm not worried about it. But I used to tell them, I, I used to say, listen, they're preparing for us the same way we're preparing for them. So if you got your ass roasted four times last game,
Starting point is 00:53:13 expect them to put that best receiver on you and try to roast your ass. I would do the exact same thing back to them. But a lot of – it's the football IQ that people don't have, man. People don't understand that. And to be honest, I was the bitch a couple games. Like, I bring up LT and Reggie Bush. We played the Saints. When Reggie was Reggie, Reggie, and they come out in empty,
Starting point is 00:53:34 they know I had to go cover somebody. They ran Reggie out the backfield knowing I had to go out with him. And I looked around, and my football IQ said, this is a bad goddamn situation. So I looked over to Jeremiah Bell. Jeremiah Bell was over and covered, you know, covered two over top of me. I said, just lock him up, cover him. I'll go back in the middle of the field and rat.
Starting point is 00:53:54 And the coach was like, what are you doing wearing this? I said, Coach, I'm not getting embarrassed in front of all these people. Who the hell am I to cover Reggie Bush? I'm 250-pound middle linebacker. I shouldn't be out here on this bastard. But that thought is what a lot of guys don't know. They're just, okay, I'm on number two week. Number two week is Randy Mars, bitch.
Starting point is 00:54:15 All right, we appreciate you. Hey, we got to go. You're the best. The Pivot, every single Wednesday on YouTube.com forward slash The Pivot and podcast. Yeah, Tuesday. Tuesday at noon. We drop every Tuesday at noon. Fuck, ladies and gentlemen, Shannon Cronin. Every single Wednesday on YouTube.com forward slash the pivot and podcast. Yeah. Tuesday, Tuesday at noon. We drop every Tuesday at noon.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Fuck. Ladies and gentlemen, Shannon. Ladies and gentlemen, college football, national champion, Superbowl champion, COVID survivor,
Starting point is 00:54:37 AJ. AJ. When'd you do that? What? That. What's it say? What book is that? Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Yeah, you know. I mean, I don't know. A long time ago. I have lots of books up there. Yeah, okay. Okay, sure. Just like Ezekiel. The entire thought of our conversation with Channing Crowder
Starting point is 00:54:59 powering through two hard out and a hard in is great. That dude is electrifying, AJ. I got to see some of it that's exactly what i thought like he's he's the man and i years ago when i got to meet him for the first time he was that like that's who he was what he was with you in the interview he's so like high energy and so real yeah there's a there's a reason that that his his podcast is a big deal like he's awesome well you're old school guys too he. He talked about the mentality of a football practice and a game back in the day versus what it is now. He said these guys are too nice. He said he was coaching high school for five years.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And he said, I don't want to hurt him. I'm going to hurt myself. Get the fuck off the field. It is crazy to think about what you had to do for a living for a long time, busting your fingers, obviously obviously looking like a deformed creature and everything like that. And what you did for your brain and your jaw and your body. Hey, we appreciate your service, sir.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Thank you, AJ. Thank you. Thank you for your service and what you did for football. No, I didn't do shit. Literally stood there, watched, and then walked out there. Most important play in football. Well, I agree. For the outcome of the game, right behind turnovers uh field position is the number two step well score is the number one stat that is a determiner of who wins
Starting point is 00:56:11 the game then turnovers then if you look at the field position uh that's probably gonna tell you who won the game if i had to guess they did change the kickoff i mean that cannot go on set as well well yeah i mean probably because i was laying too much lumber. How many years did you play for? 11. That's so long. How many games did you miss? I mean, I guess officially, yeah, I didn't dress for one when I was hurt. Well, how about that one game against the Eagles when you were too slow for the scheme?
Starting point is 00:56:38 Oh, yeah. I mean, no, I registered a game there. I was dressed, and I got in there a little bit. What year was that? Our Super Bowl year, whatever year that is. So third year? 2010 season. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:53 So was that fourth year, third year? My fifth year was Super Bowl year. I love the fact that the D coordinator said, AJ's not fast enough to be on the field. All right, we're going to do this. We're going to be without you. How did that whole thing go? Did you get back on the field next game?
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah, I started playing a decent amount the next game, and then obviously we had a lot of injuries, too. That was another reason why I got plugged in more, too. But, yeah, that whole year, we had like 25 dudes on IR that year. Jeez. All right, let's start talking about some current NFL stuff. Just know that we appreciate your service, AJ. Thanks. I wouldn't change anything.
Starting point is 00:57:26 I don't have any regrets. Well, way to go, man. Oh, yeah. Speaking of AJs, AJ Braun allegedly in the middle of a conversation for an extension with the Tennessee Titans. He's about to get paid well via Diana Rossini. Diana Rossini, who was plugged into a lot of different situations
Starting point is 00:57:41 around the NFL, including the Tennessee Titans. I believe she had Julio Jones to the Titans before anybody else. Says that both sides are working towards an extension for A.J. Brown to remain a Titan for a long time. This comes after A.J. Brown had removed Tennessee from his location part of his Twitter bio. Yeah, Tennessee is where he was. And then if you look what it became, he ain't nowhere.
Starting point is 00:58:04 It's just no options, no intro, no bio where he was. And then if you look what it became, he ain't nowhere. It's just no options. No intro, no bio, no nothing. So this is all potential. It's kind of like step two of negotiations right now in 2022. You've got to unfollow or do something online that shows that you are not on board with where you are. Bingo. This is a leverage play from A.J. Brown, who also came out publicly to bury some of the Titans fans who said he was a diva and a bad teammate because he didn't want to go to voluntary OTAs
Starting point is 00:58:29 until he had a new deal like everybody else around him seemed to have. He said, do what you have to do then, and so will I. Delete, delete, delete, delete Tennessee right out of the Twitter bio. And then now they're working on an extension via Diana Rossini. What are your thoughts on this, AJ? AJ Brown, obviously a stud, deserves to get paid. Will it happen before the draft, after the draft, before the season? Who knows, I guess.
Starting point is 00:58:55 If I was him, I'd want it to happen before, I guess as soon as possible, if they come up to what your number is. But what is that number? We know guys are getting absolute massive deals now at the receiver position very well so you loved aj brown didn't he yeah of course they love well i okay i know we say that salary cap doesn't matter but still whoever is running the salary cap there has to think about that so there's a whole conversation about that that we will get to from jeremy fowler and his report let's stick on this one though uh allegedly via sources, Diana Rossini also reported that somebody said
Starting point is 00:59:25 that there are people who are – it's no secret that Brown is truly the only playmaker on the team via sources through Diana Rossini. Derrick Henry needs the offensive line to block, obviously. Brown only needs the ball thrown his way. He creates his own production. There's a difference between a productive player and a playmaker, and Brown is both a productive player and a playmaker in his own right. Makes sense.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Needs Tannehill to throw him the ball. Needs the offensive line to give Tannehill enough. Whose quote is this? We don't know. This is just via sources. Okay. So we don't know. We don't know if it was a part of the A.J. Brown team.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I thought it was Diana Rossini for a second saying that. No, she put quotes around it, so there's quotations there. Boom. We had the same conversation before we went on air this is via sources she wrote about all this at i believe it's like my diary dot diana russini slash something else dot com so she has her own website i believe where she writes on and she's a good writer by the way she is a good writer good writer good inside sources it's my diary my diary dot maybe diana russini dot something else dot com why is she not writing on espn.com i guess that's a whole nother conversation that's what i
Starting point is 01:00:33 was wondering whether she wants to or doesn't want to maybe she wants to run her own thing or they don't want her to do that and why they block our domain from the emails yeah you know what do you mean nobody from uh our business's email account can get an email through to ESPN. Oh, I didn't know that. So you guys are making burner accounts? No, we just found out this morning. And to be honest, the way we found out was something much bigger than sports. That's right.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Yeah, it was. Much bigger. Because of Bruce? Yeah. Anyways, let Diana on the fucking site. She's a good writer. What are we even doing? Maybe she doesn't want to.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Maybe she's running her own thing. Whatever the case, she seems to believe that A.J. Brown and the Titans are about to get something done in the near future, which is great news for everybody. Yeah. I mean, he is. He's unbelievable. And that's what you like.
Starting point is 01:01:16 You look at these things. I just I don't understand how we even play this game, but like they can't let him go like the Titans. They might not want to give him what he is going to ask for, but they don't really have an option. It's not like you can let him walk. I mean, I suppose you could trade him and get good value for him in return, but they need him.
Starting point is 01:01:37 They need him very badly, and he's super young, and he's incredibly explosive. What else are they going to do? And everybody around him has gotten paid. Can you pull up the graphic with Deontay Johnson at the top of it? So Deontay Johnson also allegedly not showing up to voluntary workouts, but then he tweeted, that's fake news. This entire draft class here, 2019 draft class, is fucking stacked.
Starting point is 01:01:59 This actually might have been the start of wide receiver draft classes just being very good with the new era of seven-ons and content being king and you know people training their feet to be better just as content also making them incredible wide receivers Deontay Johnson, Terry McLaurin, DK Metcalf, Hunter Renfro, Marquise Brown, AJ Brown, Noah Fant, Debo Samuel, TJ Hawkinson, and Nicole Hardman. mean, this is an absolutely stacked draft class. And Deontay Johnson has the most receptions out of all of them. He is allegedly missing, but then he said that's fake news, so who knows how that whole thing goes.
Starting point is 01:02:36 But every one of these dudes wants to get paid, and I can see how every team would be forced to almost pay them, including the Pittsburgh Steelers and Deontay. Yeah, Deontay on his rookie contract has made like $3 million over his first three seasons. And he's had, I think he had 50 receptions as rookie, 90 as second. He had 110, I think, last year. So, yeah, he's coming up here.
Starting point is 01:02:54 And it was rumored during the season that he was looking for about 15 a year. But now after this offseason now when everyone's getting 20, I assume he's looking for that type of number because his production. Now, Steelers fans will say he dropped five last year. He dropped 13 the year before. That was a big thing with him. But I assume, like, if you want him, you're going to have to pay him. Well, Ben Roethlisberger was throwing him dimes, I assume.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Oh, yeah. Seeds. Absolute dimes, yeah. Does Pittsburgh do that? Do they usually, like, pay a guy before they have to? No, no, no, no. No, but does anybody do anything anymore? And let's get to Jeremy Fowler's report now on the salary cap
Starting point is 01:03:28 because this is becoming a conversation on who acts however they act. The salary cap is and isn't real depending on whom you ask. So Jeremy Fowler walked around the owner's meetings and just asked everybody a bunch of questions about a bunch of shit, the salary cap being one of them. At the annual owner's meeting two weeks ago, I asked several front office executives. Oh, here he goes. This is literally him explaining what i just
Starting point is 01:03:47 explained on background if they believe the salary cap was real or not because we have been pushing hard that salary cap is not real and a lot of teams have been acting as if the salary cap is not real so we've been pushing that at least two of them flat out said no the salary cap is not real they considered it an accounting tool of sorts or guide to determine which players can or cannot be replaced but not a major deterrent to any big picture plans one afc executive even called the salary cap malleable or pliable something that can be shaped to accommodate a desired outcome want to add one more star player prorate more signing bonus money with other contracts, or add voidable
Starting point is 01:04:25 years to new deals. Voidable years are the tactic in which they can dump money into it, even though it's not even a part of the contract, so it lowers the salary cap hit of all the years prior to the voidable years. But as one NFL GM pointed out, the bill is always due eventually, so the salary cap should make difficult choices rather clear cut. That one GM that pointed that out is the one that believes it's real because the people that believe it's real they're always like oh you can
Starting point is 01:04:49 kick can down the road you can kick can on road but you're gonna have to answer eventually and the people that don't think it's real like yeah fuck it once we get to the can down the road guess what we're gonna do we're gonna kick that thing again and we're just gonna restart this entire uh notion it's fascinating we're in a changing of the time right now in how teams are constructed, how teams are put together. Deontay Johnson's asking for money because he knows there's a team out there that doesn't give a fuck about money that will pay him, and that's probably how everybody's thinking about
Starting point is 01:05:14 it right now, AJ. Well, don't you think this report by Jeremy Fowler just confirms what you've been saying all along? I guess. The salary cap is not real. He has GMs that basically said that, and they just know, okay, you just have to know the language and how to work the numbers. And they always say, oh, well, you eventually got to pay the piper.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Well, when? And what does that look like? That's dead money once that player is out of the league? What does that mean? Yeah, and if the player retires out of nowhere, is that what you get got? If he gets hurt out of nowhere? What is the ultimate achilles heel of kicking the can down the road i mean and then when that happens when you have that dead money when the production doesn't meet the payment anymore so when you have a situation like the sealers had with ben
Starting point is 01:05:54 roethlisberger where he was owed 40 million dollars but his play was obviously not worthy of 40 million dollars anymore they had to do some restructuring and some configuring yeah but you can just kick it down the road again that's what everyone does yeah they just give it to them in a bonus like the saints like that happened with drew breeze too but the saints what they saved 80 million this year and they didn't cut anybody no no they wasn't 100 million dollars in like three weeks yeah something like oh yeah 71 over and then they got 30 million underneath 30 you heard bill belichick say it with the patriots to remember when brady complained about not having enough weapons bill was kind of like well salary cap we can't we can't get anyone yeah it seems like the salary and jeremy fowler actually alluded to
Starting point is 01:06:32 that how the salary cap is always just like almost an excuse for teams to kind of hold over the head of people that they don't necessarily want to pay money and but other places are able to figure it out so the salary cap is a massive myth, and I will stand by that. I will stand by it. It's all bullshit. You've said this before, too. Who gives a fuck if you win the Super Bowl? You think the Rams, when they have to pay the piper in five years or whatever,
Starting point is 01:06:54 they're going to look back like, oh, that wasn't worth it. No way. They won a Super Bowl. It happened with the Bucs. Cronky married into the Walmart family? Yeah. So the Walmart family owns the Rams Rams about to own the Broncos. Good for Walmart, man, just pushing some good shit.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Also, they're all operating under the same set of rules. So if a couple GMs are saying, like, oh, no, it doesn't exist. It's malleable. You can move it around. Then that means that everyone could do that. Or it means those two are wrong. Who knows? Speaking of wrong, there is something that I've never been more right about.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time. Standing at 6'9", and on Saturday, he'll beat the fuck out of a man named Dillian White. Ladies and gentlemen, your WBC heavyweight champion of the world, the Gypsy King, Tyson! Here he is! Back on my favorite show. How's it hanging, boys? Hey. Running loose and full of juice. That's right.
Starting point is 01:08:08 It's fight week, Tyson. How are we feeling? How do you feel on Tuesday here, a few days before the fight? I'm feeling absolutely fucking fantastic. Can't wait to smash the fuck out of Dylan White's face. Okay, quick question. I heard he didn't make the public workout today. He didn't make it to the press conference.
Starting point is 01:08:23 What's this all about? Is he scared to see you? do you think he's transforming his body he doesn't want you to see his ass is flapping like that his asshole's twitching now boys uh what's this camp been like tyson what has it been like looking forward to it i know whenever we talked to you last time as this was getting uh kind of launched and you were going into fight camp there was conversations of is this going to be your last fight is it not going to be your last fight you're enjoying this entire process what is the camp been like and how do you feel you are right now camp's been really good um no complaints from me i'm in absolutely fantastic shape you know me fat as ever ready to rock and roll look here
Starting point is 01:09:02 i'm in great shape. Heavyweight cap, people. You may look like that or you act like it's a joke, but do you ever get tired? It seems like you legit don't get tired when you're boxing. I'm like the Jerusalem Bunny, baby. I just keep going. Look at this graphic, though. We have a graphic that our guy dirty made
Starting point is 01:09:26 and you have him and basically every single stat that seems to matter in the fight game obviously we just saw the slim in tone 277 pounds 85 inch reach over to a 78 inch reach 247 uh pound guy you're just isn't this now i don't want to talk too much shit because he's obviously a great fighter. He's getting an opportunity at the championship. 94,000 tickets sold at Wembley to see you do your thing. Tyson, 94, that's huge. What is this? I mean, this is one of your...
Starting point is 01:09:56 This feels like... You should kill this guy, right? Is this how we're all feeling in this type of thing? You know what it is? It's a very tough fight. Dylan White's a good fighter. He's the ranked number one in the world by the WBC. He's the number one ranked challenger. He's only had two losses in his 30-odd fights.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Not underestimating him, but like you say, definitely going to make mincemeat of this guy for sure. He's no different to all the guys I've fought before. Dangerous, big heavyweight with big power. But they all have been. And they've all wanted to do the same thing. They wanted to punch this good-looking face right in. Bam, bam, bam.
Starting point is 01:10:32 But they never could do it. They still can't do it today. So I'm just going to prove yet again that I am the top dog in this division. Well, we can't wait to watch on Saturday. The pay-per-view begins at 2 p.m. Eastern. I can't wait to dive in and watch it. Whenever you think about this fight, and I mentioned it there, I alluded to it,
Starting point is 01:10:53 and we're only a couple days away, so I don't want to ever think about your future because you've got to handle your business right now. But everybody talking about your future seems to be a massive conflicting report. Have you even thought about it, or is this everybody speculating about you from the outside of your camp looking in?
Starting point is 01:11:07 I think all three, as familiar faces, we know what I'm going to do when I retire. What did I tell you last time? Oh, yeah, you're going to booze, and then I think beat the shit out of your penis. I'm going to get drunk. I'm going to get fucked. Fuck! What all good men should be doing. I'm going to get drunk. I'm going to get fucked.
Starting point is 01:11:29 What all good men should be doing. Have you thought about that, though? Is this going to be your last fight, or is that all speculation from outside looking in? You know, this is what I've said. I've said this is going to be my final fight, and I'm going to have to get those rookie numbers of seven times a day up to 57 times a day while I'm not active boxing anymore
Starting point is 01:11:46 and we'll see where we can go with that where we can take that okay so this thing has to is can't go to the judges because i saw that there's no british judges allowed for this fight whatever that means there's going to be other judges from other places how many is that even a thought to you no you're trying to end this thing i'm trying to end this thing inside the distance um trying to get him out of there from round one to round 12. whatever happens in whatever round we're going to do the business and uh get straight to the bar my my in my vision i just want to knock this out not even watch him hit the floor leave the ring without being announced the winner and go straight to the bar hey have you been super disciplined in this fight camp?
Starting point is 01:12:26 Obviously, that's why you want to get to the bar. How's the dieting been? I mean, you still got your gut. You still got your size. But how dialed in? What has camp been like here on a daily basis? It's been pretty good. George!
Starting point is 01:12:36 George! Here! I'll bring my nutritionist into this. He can tell you. Hey, who'd have thought it? The Gypsy King's got a nutritionist. Let's go! It's 2022! 2022, Tyson Fury
Starting point is 01:12:48 with his nutritionist. 2022. Hey, George. Hey, what's going on, George? Hey, George. Hey, what's he been eating? Anything different this fight? What are we making him a full machine like? Oh, man, it's simple. Red meat, salmon, I mean, chicken, just wholesome
Starting point is 01:13:03 food, man, but we did it for 15 weeks at this time, so he's in freaking great shape. How many calories a day? I know, you look so good. Look how good you look. How many calories a day, George? I think it's around about 4,000 calories a day, I think I'm on. How many training times a day? Twice a day.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Cardio one, spar the other, or both? Yeah, cardio one, boxing the other, and then it'll be weights one, boxing the other. Always boxing, but varies between cardio and weights on your opposite days. Hey, at this stage of the game, obviously 32 fights, 31 wins, one draw, the greatest heavyweight of all time in everybody's eyes.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Are you still getting better? Are you working on things for this specific... are trying we're trying to get better and better every single time they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks but you should see this old dog work in the gym working on new tricks do you do you watch film onto this guy or no not really you know all these guys do pretty much the same thing um They're all going to try and punch me in the face, punch me in the belly. But it's my job not to let that happen. Oh, that's amazing. Go ahead, Ty.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Tyson, are every single one of your fight camps exactly the same? You kind of said how all these guys are doing the same thing, and you're obviously supremely confident. But will you do anything different going in, like training-wise? Are you just doing the same thing before every single fight no we do different stuff at different times for this one we've been doing a lot of um golf practicing hitting the balls like 250 yards 300 yards me and my trainer sugar hill we've been out on the driving range a lot um shooting 100 balls like every other day uh to try and build that power up on the rotation of the hips but that's a
Starting point is 01:14:45 training secret not a lot of people know about that but actually swinging that golf club improves your um force of your pump speed did you get that from canelo nope never got it from canelo we just thought it would help you know hitting the ball driving it farther and farther trying to get it as far as you can i do see Canelo plays a little bit of golf, but I don't actually play the golf so much these days, but I've been knocking them balls a long way. Hey, any of the other high-level boxers? Do you talk to any other high-level boxers
Starting point is 01:15:16 while you're training or going through? Is that something that happens in the boxing world? Yeah, I do speak to guys, yeah. What do you get? Do you try to get some things out of people? Do people ask you for stuff? I assume that's something that a lot of people come to you for. People really want to know about the masturbation from me.
Starting point is 01:15:33 That's what they mainly want to know. And I read an article recently that this doctor guy, he did, like, research on it, and he said it actually helps with endurance and it would work. So, yeah, 10 points for me brownie points you were a social experiment to yourself became world champion and said
Starting point is 01:15:52 hey doctors why don't you look into this slimy beat you're still doing that though to this day you're eating 7 times a day I'm still 7 times a day oh Dylan's got no fucking shot no shot this guy 7 times a day. Oh, Dylan's got no fucking shot. No shot. No shot, this guy. Seven times a day. And extras on a Sunday.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Night before, you sleep like a baby night before the fight? I sleep like an absolute baby. A lot of people don't. A lot of people are up all night. They wake up early. But me, I sleep like a baby. I try and sleep until about 10 a.m. Roll downstairs, have a full American breakfast
Starting point is 01:16:28 steak eggs casual super calm before the fight super calm, relaxed, having a good time yeah super calm changing room, we've got music on in there you see me dancing, singing songs we're going to go out and party
Starting point is 01:16:43 we're going to go out and have fun this is what we worked hard for, to enjoy the night. At what stage were you, because you said you came into the world basically boxing. At what stage did you get to the mental where it's like, hey, this is fun, as opposed to like nerve wracking, which I assume everybody that fights you is scared to fucking death. Yeah, it became as easy as it is for me now.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Around about 10 years ago, I think, it was like, it's a buildup of ultimate confidence and the victories that keep coming and coming and coming. So now I'm just enjoying every day at the office. Like you guys, you guys look like you have an absolute ball at your job. I do at mine. I actually have great time in the corner in between rounds, joking, messing around.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Hey, you keep your head moving at all times. I think I told you this the last time we talked to you. I didn't know of your existence until recently and I'm fucking pissed about it, especially because you're retiring, but you're like, you're an electrifying fighter and you're always
Starting point is 01:17:40 moving for how big you are. You seem to have more energy. Is that all day you're working like that? Are you naturally a fidgety guy or is that an actual? That's usually that motion, though. All fight is boxing like that. But you do seem to move at all times. You never get tired.
Starting point is 01:17:58 It's a real phenomenon to watch. I think you're one-on-one and will be forever. Yeah, I think it's like a natural built-in uh big lung capacity where i'm able to keep going and not get so tired like the rest of the guys and like i say i don't have a lot of muscle on me so muscle um eats up your oxygen levels in your body so mine's uh instead of muscle i've got a lot of fat so the fat takes less oxygen than the muscle so people should try it they should try coming in fat rather than muscular. Yeah, Dylan, come on.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Come on, Dylan. Come on. Get fat. Stop working out. Get a little fatter. John Daly always said you can't pull fat. So, I mean, that's an amazing thing. You're always more healthy.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Go ahead, Tony. Tyson, does it mean more that it's in Wembley and not in Vegas or somewhere else in the U.S. now that you're back on your turf? You know, I love Las Vegas. It's been a home to me for the U.S. now that you're back on your turf? You know, I love Las Vegas. It's been a home to me for the last four years. It's been absolutely fantastic working out there and fighting there and topping the bill. But, you know, Wembley Stadium is probably one of the biggest stadiums in the world. Massive crowd, biggest crowd since pre-World War, 94,000 people.
Starting point is 01:19:02 So it's absolutely fantastic to be in the capital city of england and sold out 94 000 and ticketmaster said that here was their quote tyson fury is a rock star he could have sold out three wembley stadiums man that has to feel good doesn't that have to feel good to people love you it feels great you know it feels great but it hasn't always been like this i had to go away earn me juice work over an american and come back as a folk hero to the uk well i'm happy and proud that you did i think you should be proud that you did as well man a fucking great story go ahead connor yeah tyson if you're going straight to the bar after the fight are we not going to get any singing in the ring at after are we going to get that probably later on when you're enjoying a few pops?
Starting point is 01:19:46 You will definitely get me to sing in the ring. I'm going to sing when 94,000 people are. I've got to sing them a song. But then I will be going to the bar and getting absolutely shit-faced. I can't wait to hear the Legendary Tales. And I know, speaking of Legendary Tales, Gloves Off, the autobiography of Tyson Fury
Starting point is 01:20:04 comes out in November. How was that whole process? Pretty retrospective, looking inside a lot? It's been good because I already did two books before. I did the autobiography, Behind the Mask, and then I did the other one, which was a fitness book and like a mental health book. But this one's like a tweaking of them all,
Starting point is 01:20:20 and it goes real deep into the life and what it's like in the life of a champion and all that stuff so it's been a lot of work and efforts gone into that third book well we can't wait to read it and we're very appreciative of your everything you've sacrificed by the way for our entertainment can't wait to watch on saturday hey let's knock that guy out huh yeah let's go out yeah let's go beat our house yeah pow I masturbated seven times a day for this one. Boom. What am I going to do?
Starting point is 01:20:49 I'm going to hit him with the right hand, the masturbation arm. Boom. Like a bionic arm. You're the best. We appreciate you. Good luck on Saturday. That's it, guys. Always, always love the show.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Big respect to everybody. And keep doing what you're doing. I love the show. Great, great conversations. doing what you're doing i love the show great great conversations can't wait to have some pints with you sir ladies and gentlemen tyson when i'm back okay all right all right you got it cheers good luck out there now we're getting a chance to learn even more about former new york giants head coach this man was hired as a head coach of an NFL program. And we all know how the head coaching cycle goes nowadays with the hiring, the interviews, who gets picked, how people get picked.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Are they a guru? Are they incredibly high football IQ? How's the resume? Everything that allegedly goes into the process. that allegedly goes into the process. This guy somehow became the head coach of the New York football giants when Eli fucking Manning was their quarterback, who's a Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 01:21:51 He actually benched Eli Manning. For Gino Smith, West Virginia guy, not a good spot to go in for Gino Smith. They almost lost their entire fan base. He inevitably puts Eli back, gets fired. Eli goes back. Now, he's back in the NFL. Offense coordinator for the
Starting point is 01:22:06 Carolina Panthers and he did a press conference earlier today. His hair looked fantastic and his words were majestic. Ladies and gentlemen, Ben McAdoo. And you look at Sam as your starting quarterback. Sam is our starting quarterback, yes.
Starting point is 01:22:21 One minute, 37 seconds later. One of the things I've been working on is being better talking to you people. So, you know, announcing the starting quarterback here, I just put my foot in the mouth. So that wasn't something I should have said. Legend. That is amazing. Listen, somebody just gave me a wave in the back of the room. It was like, Sam Darnold's a starting quarterback?
Starting point is 01:22:46 Get the fuck out of here. One thing I've been trying to work on. What a series of events. That's a Western Pennsylvania guy there, McAdoo. And things like this, with the way his name is, okay, the way it's pronounced, little C, big A, you know, that is kind of the Scottish accent way to pronounce it's not Mick
Starting point is 01:23:07 like others would say because it's a a vowel immediately after or a letter a capital letter immediately after I believe it's whatever the case
Starting point is 01:23:16 Macadufus people say oh yeah alright that's what people say about this guy because they kind of have to whenever things like this happen and he says stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Now, does that mean his football IQ is bad, AJ? Because every time he speaks, it sounds like an idiot speaking? Or is it just whenever he's speaking publicly, he's not comfortable doing so? So we should give him a little bit more of a balance of like, hey, this guy's an idiot. You know, like a lot of people think, which I don't, but I think a lot of people do. You might have to give him a little bit of leeway, I guess. I don't know. I mean, his hair looks great, if nothing else to give him a little bit of leeway, I guess. I don't know. I mean, his hair looks great, if nothing else.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Like, hey, at least my hair looks legit, right? Great. And who was telling him not to announce Sam Darnold as a starter? Was that the business people who were trying to trade for somebody? Why does that matter, though? Does that matter? Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, is it because of trade?
Starting point is 01:23:58 They want to trade stuff? They still want to talk about that? Is it because another quarterback that's there, they want to maybe make them think that they can compete for it? Who was the one that told him, like, you fucking – who did that? That is what I want. This is why we don't see coaches speak that often. We only see head coaches.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Yeah. Not everybody's polished. People have to speak like once a week. A lot of coaches don't – like you know a ton of – the majority of coaches do not want to speak to the media. Now I think that's changing with, younger people coming into the league, but the old guard, like, they have no desire usually to speak to the media. I think the younger coaches understand the value of, like, being liked as a person.
Starting point is 01:24:36 That's huge. You're also recruiting the whole time, too, for a potential job, people that could hire you, and also players. Like, hey, I remember seeing that guy. Like, he seems cool in interviews, and all of a sudden he's a head coach someday yeah it's not just for the fans it's also like professionally as well other coaches wanting to come coach with you and your place i've had coaches text me after listening to a coach on the show saying hey i would love to go coach with that guy right there with how he acts on your show and the conversation he has but players
Starting point is 01:25:01 that's a big time in free agency now that it feels like it's a recruiting era. I forget who said it. It might have been, was it, it was maybe somebody on the internet, maybe somebody here. Might've been in text with coach JB that me and AJ Hawker in. I forget, but people are viewing like the free agency thing almost as the transfer portal. Like if guys don't like where they're at, they don't like where the money's at. Like, all right, I went out of here. I'm going to keep it moving. And that's the transfer portal model where, you know, you get a scholarship to a place, you don't like the. I'm going to keep it moving. And that's a transfer portal model where, you know, you get a scholarship to a place. You don't like the way it's going for whatever reason. It might be personal reasons.
Starting point is 01:25:29 You don't like the coach. It might have been that you were lied to. It happens a lot in recruiting. It might have been that you're not playing. Whatever the reason, you just decide, I'm going to get up and I'm going to leave. Where in the past, people would have to battle through that, kind of live through the suck that they have. Maybe battle, maybe find out it's not for them or whatever. It's kind of an evolving situation for certain, no matter how you view it.
Starting point is 01:25:47 But that is interesting that now it feels like players are able to say and pick and choose where they want to be and how they want to be. Now, whenever you announce for a trade and it doesn't work out, are you on the wrong end of it? Like the guys that are sitting in the transfer portal. For instance, Baker Mayfield, whenever he said, I want to be traded, and then the Browns come out and say, excuse me, we don't care. And then him saying, no, I want to be traded. And then the Browns come out and say, excuse me, we don't care. And then him saying, no, I want to be traded.
Starting point is 01:26:08 They think we have gone too far. We don't think the relationship is mendable. And the Browns come out again and say, hey, we don't care. Okay, we are not trading you. Then they sign a guy to $230 million guaranteed the next day at the same position. And then they follow up saying we might need him to be there. It's just like I think there's upside to it and I think there's downside to it there's a lot of dudes sitting in transfer portal and like at what point do you think guys know who can be who they uh can afford
Starting point is 01:26:33 to be know whether or not they can be the one demanding the trade in the new deal and everything like that it's a it's a weird situation kyler with the cardinals weird situation there's just a lot of that well you you got to it right there at the end when you said be who you can afford to be that's that's so true it's something you always say you got to know if you have some leverage you can't be demanding a trade if there's not a whole lot of demand for your services so like that's just there's different ways to go about it I don't know what's right or wrong ever but what the hell is going to happen to Baker Mayfield and where is he going to play? And is he going to be a starter?
Starting point is 01:27:05 Well, that's why the McAdoo thing is interesting because he said Sam's going to be our starter. So that would make us feel like, okay, so they're out on Baker Mayfield because they already got Sam's contract. Well, either way, though, it would be fine to say Sam's a starter and they still all of a sudden they acquire Baker. And, like, well, things have changed. Yeah, we lied.
Starting point is 01:27:21 What do you fuck? Who cares? That's what we do all the fucking time, dude. People lie all the time. Because what is happening right now is not the same as what's going to be happening two weeks from now. The world changes. Game changes. And we feel like different things happen behind the scenes that nobody knows that make us tell you that.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Although we said with absolute certainty just three days ago that this thing would happen, it is certainly not happening now with new evidence that made us think, oh is a fucking terrible decision but that happens all the time in these press conferences never have we seen it one minute and 30 seconds and 37 seconds later though you know never when did he know when did he realize i there had i wish we could see the full clip because obviously that just came across our timeline and we fucking you know as soon as we see that we can't help everybody laughed it's probably the pr person you know like you you talk about the colts pr people the pr person i'm sure was talking to ben before he got up there hey you know they're probably gonna hit you about this talk about this you know there's just so you have an idea and then mackinac probably looked over and saw
Starting point is 01:28:15 their pr person the person just kind of looking right at him like all right well was that the very beginning of the of the thing too what? He's writing notes and hold up signs. Yeah, what if he looked over there and there was just a, just that like holding up the, and then McAdoo's like giving an answer. McAdoo's giving an answer and he's like, what? And they're like, hold right a whole nother thing starter nod start like holding up in the back of the room and then how do they relay the message to him
Starting point is 01:28:53 because do we see him look off camera in this press conference or is it him actually remembering in it while he's giving an answer that oh fuck i've already told them who the starting quarterback is because he might have been in like uh i want everybody to compete i want everybody to feel as And while he's giving an answer that, oh, fuck, I've already told them who the starting quarterback is because he might have been in like a, I want everybody to compete. I want everybody to feel as if they're the starter. And then at all positions, you know, that's why, oh, fuck, I already told him Sam Donaldson. Did that happen or did somebody have to tell him?
Starting point is 01:29:18 I'm intrigued by that. I think in his own head he realized it. Maybe, who knows. He had to know coming in they were going to ask a lot of questions about the quarterback position. Yeah, and McAdoo said, do you see this hair, baby? I'm going to come slinging in there. All right, I'm going to be slinging.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Look at that guy. Wow. What flow. He looks good, dude, doesn't he? He loves Pittsburgh. Western Pennsylvania guy. Yep, for sure. Western Pennsylvania guy.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Let's go to some other. He is. Western PA, but not that far west. Like Central? Closer to Central. I don't think so. I think he's pretty Western Pennsylvania. Isn't he?
Starting point is 01:29:54 Indiana PA, which is about 45 minutes east of Pittsburgh. It's a little bit out there. We had to play them. That's where IUP is, Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Maybe now. That place. Is that I-U-P-U-I? No. That IUP is, Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Maybe not. That place. Is that IUP UI? No, that's Indiana University, Purdue University of Indiana.
Starting point is 01:30:10 That's downtown here. So weird. No, it's both the schools coming together. There's actually a couple really. Purdue has like maybe a high-end business school here. And then Indiana has like a high-end, like some, maybe pharmacy thing. Nursing, I think. Nursing.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Yeah, well, John Mellencamp for sure, Donner. Born and raised a small town. Mellencamp Pavilion, I believe their indoor facility named after him. At IU? It was back in the day. Obviously, I don't know if it is anymore. Why? Anyways, McAdoo's definitely a Western Pennsylvania guy.
Starting point is 01:30:41 And with that being said, I hope he has success. But it feels like that Carolina Panthers staff knows that they're probably fucked at the end of this year yeah it seems like it's not crazy to think that matt rule told him to do this he was like hey listen i've been taking it on the shins all right i need you to go out there and fucking put your foot in your mouth right away okay and i can do that hey was it to take uh attention away from the owner backing out of their uh what their new stadium or the new facility okay let's talk about it so the carolina panthers in a town in carolina agreed to terms on bringing a new facility to the town now that town would then benefit from it because a massive facility would be built hold on a quick was this a stadium or their their facility i don't know
Starting point is 01:31:20 i think it was their head yeah i don't know if it was a stadium it was just the headquarters facility yeah so that would be the home of the Panthers, blah, blah, blah. They come to a deal. How much will the town pay for? How much will the Carolina Panthers pay for? Carolina Panthers, owned by Tepper, the richest owner in the NFL, the only owner in the NFL to crack the top 10 of the wealthiest professional sports teams' owners.
Starting point is 01:31:41 So he's the wealthiest by far. It is a whole different thing. Businessman, though, obvious. Bet on himself, I believe, the guy, numerous times, team's owners so he's the wealthiest by far it is a whole different thing businessman though obvious bet on himself i believe the guy numerous times and found his wealth as opposed to being born into it so i think there's a lot of respect amongst you know people for the way he has done his thing and he's he is spiteful it does appear in some of his wikipedia stories where he will buy people who have maybe slighted him in the past house, tear it down and build a house double the size just to kind of do that type of thing.
Starting point is 01:32:11 So he had an agreement with the town. Rock Hill, I believe, is what it was called. Rock Hill is the town. There was an agreement on how much the town would pay and how much Panthers would pay. And the town didn't put up their end of the bargain, whatever was due. Then the Panthers told them, you have 30 days to do this once it was already delinquent. Those 30 days had passed, and now the Carolina Panthers have canceled the agreement with the town for the facility, and they will re-examine relationships everywhere. Whatever the case, people aren't going to care about Tepper
Starting point is 01:32:41 saying, because he's the richest dude in the NFL, people aren't going to ever about Tepper saying, like, because he's the richest dude in the NFL, people aren't going to ever have him be babyface. But Tepper said, I'll be goddamned if you make a deal with me and you don't fucking hold up your end of the bargain. I will shut this whole fucking thing down. I do not care about Rock Hill, North Carolina, or wherever the fuck this is, AJ. Well, I want to know, like, have they already started building it? Is there, like, part of the structure in place already, and then they backed out, or what? They broke ground on this facility?
Starting point is 01:33:08 I believe, because we reported on it a year, I think they had the ribbon ceremony, and I believe pictures that I saw today, there was some definite, there's definitely work going on. Yeah, the last month they stopped the work, right? He hadn't been working, and now they backed out. That's a big deal.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Yeah, that's a lot of stuff that's already been done, but I assume that's from the Panthers' end of payment, and they're probably looking for their payment back. they'll figure it out who owns the land do the panthers still own the land are they going to sell it are they going to redo it are they going to have to rebuild it because they've already started up on something is it in the middle of town and here's a lot of questions that have to go on and it seems like the panthers couldn't even get a hold of the the council if you look at the 30 day hey you have 30 days and never heard back from them. When we talk about these structures
Starting point is 01:33:46 that get built for the Olympics and stuff, I assume there's already 500 to 600 homeless people that have just moved into this half-built building. There's no way they can do anything. Qatar's changing that. You see Qatar?
Starting point is 01:33:58 What? Qatar, Qatar, wherever your World Cup is, they built a stadium with shipping containers that they can take down, I guess, when it's done. What? I saw something about it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Is that the one that has the air conditionings in them? I don't think it is, but they show all these shipping containers on the outside of the thing, and they act like they could take it down and put it up somewhere else or something. So is Qatar not going to have any stadiums after this? How many people were – What's that? I mean, a lot of people passed away after this. How many people were... What's that? A lot of people passed away building this.
Starting point is 01:34:31 This is why they had to do that. One guy's going to operate a forklift and he's going to pick up the shipping containers and move them because we have 18,000 dead people underneath that other stadium. Jesus! It's like the 200 degrees down there, right? There's no way that's accurate. It's very hot is what I'm saying. It's not 200 degrees.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Is this the World Cup or is this a fucking third and fourth grade soccer tournament on the weekend? What's going on? Are building stadiums out of fucking shipping containers? Are you kidding me? Are the toilet seat boys running this thing? Yeah, no kidding. What do we got? We got poopy fingernails, dude.
Starting point is 01:34:59 What is going on with the FIFA? Okay. The soccer Lombardi is coming home no matter what shipping container stadium we need to go win in. Hell yeah. But when the soccer Lombardi's home and the soccer Lombardi tournament is home, wait till you see what we do for the soccer
Starting point is 01:35:15 Lombardi. The amount of respect we're going to show it that FIFA clearly isn't showing the soccer Lombardi with this entire process. I do like all the air conditionings, though, that they're putting in all those stadiums. Are they going to be in every stadium? Because this is something.
Starting point is 01:35:28 If they're not going to be in every stadium, I mean, how do they pick and choose? Because I feel like what is the cutoff temperature-wise for the air-conditioned stadiums and the non-air-conditioned stadiums? That's a good point. I can guarantee you we're not going to be playing in air-conditioned stadiums. United States? No, not a chance. Because we're the favorites all of a sudden.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Have we ever won this tournament? No, no, it's coming home, though. Yeah, should have won a couple years ago. We've United States? No, not a chance. Because we're the favorites all of a sudden. Have we ever won this tournament? No, no, it's coming home, though. Yeah, I should have won a couple years ago. We've never won, really, the World Cup? No, no, we actually didn't win. Nope. But the women's team has a lot, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:53 All of them. We win all of them. Why are the women so much better than the guys right now? Because they're fucking a talented group. Yeah. Hey, that program from little kids all the way through, very, very good. Good coaching, good everything. I mean, it is kids all the way through, very, very good. Good coaching, good everything.
Starting point is 01:36:07 I mean, it is solid all the way through. The soccer culture is great. You know, you played, but like my daughter, she's 11. The soccer culture is nuts. There's also no WNFL. Yeah, because a lot of the people say that our best athletes don't play soccer. They play football or basketball or baseball. I hear the same thing about boxing, too.
Starting point is 01:36:27 Or hockey. Women's hockey team, very talented. Yeah. And women's basketball team, I believe, very talented. Yeah. Softball. Softball is very good. I would like the world to admit, though,
Starting point is 01:36:40 and I apologize for cutting you off there, but I would like the world to admit that you guys do know that if, you know, if it was LeBron playing goalie, you know what I mean? Odell Beckham playing striker. You know, Tyreek Hill playing outside mid maybe. LeBron ain't stopping a fucking shot from Harry Kane. All right. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Six foot eight. Six foot eight, he's faster than everybody. He's going to have to move. Yeah, right. Six foot eight. Okay. Six foot eight. He's fastening everybody. Then he's going to have to move. Throw it into the goal. He might do it insufferably, but he's going to do it. And if you teach him how to drop kick, I mean, he'll be able to fucking run through one of those. He'll be able to go fucking box to box probably every single time if he wanted to.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Kelsey Center back right next to AQ Shipley. Oh, man. Come on. Shipley. Oh, I mean, come on. Come on. Further to your point, Pat, LeBron, OBJ, those star-studded athletes would absolutely not play in a dump like this Qatar Stadium that they built out of shipping.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Oh, really? They would throw a fit. Christian Pulisic should? Whoa, what is that? I mean, what the fuck? That's what I told you about. Can you zoom in on that? Oh, no. It looks like a parking garage, right? Yeah. What is that? I mean, what the fuck? That's what I told you about. That's pretty cool. Can you zoom in on that? Oh, no. It looks like a parking garage, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:49 So what's in the containers? Why are they even there? You know what's in the containers. Yeah, possibly dead bodies. Why are they? What? You know what's in the containers. The dead bodies of all the people who worked on the stadiums.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Is that misinformation? Why are they there? Is it just a garage? I don't know. Are these like individual suites? Are they trying to decorate it so you don't see the back of the bleachers? I don't know. Are these like individual suites? Are they trying to decorate it so you don't see the back of the bleachers? Keep the Lamborghini. If you're a fan, how do you go into that stadium?
Starting point is 01:38:11 The inside looks fucking real nice. It's really nice. I'd go in there, man. I'd need an SPF 100, though. They're in a cup. I am going to get burnt. Cover that roof. We should go to...
Starting point is 01:38:20 There's no way they got roofs, right? Do they? That's only stadium 974. That's the only one. So the containers are actually empty. They used them to ship all the materials to build the stadium. Smart building.
Starting point is 01:38:34 So yeah, they're being really smart. This is like the bin place. Who loves bins or baskets or whatever the hell. The container store. The container store, yeah. This is how the container store would stack this fucking thing. They'd have it all up underneath the thing. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Actually container store. The container store. Oh, yeah. This is how the container store would stack this fucking thing. They'd have it all up
Starting point is 01:38:46 underneath the thing. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Actually really smart. Lock out the bleachers. They'll probably put a tarp over it. It'll look like it's a wall. You'd pull the tarp back. That's actually a bunch of
Starting point is 01:38:54 empty, ugly, disgusting, rusted out fucking cargo things. This is Mickey Mouse, not my World Cup. No, this is soccer Lombardi. Maybe we choose not to win this one. Yeah. How about it?
Starting point is 01:39:03 Seriously. Maybe we choose not to win the fucking shipping is soccer Lombardi. Maybe we choose not to win this one. Maybe we choose not to win the fucking shipping container soccer Lombardi. Don't hate it. Maybe not even go. I didn't go to the last one. You should go to this one. I got two times in 400 years, Canada.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Does Canada have a team, Goop? Yeah, we made it, dude. First time since 86. Jeez. Congratulations, by the way. You guys should be better. Well, they say that about, you know, I mean, our curling team also, the Olympic gold medalists. That's right. No, we do.
Starting point is 01:39:32 What was that, two gold medals ago? That was two Olympics ago. Yeah, but still. We beat you guys in bronze this last year, dude. I had a couple of those curling guys wanting to come on, actually. Really? Curling Matty Hamilton? The people that, the guy that, I think the last
Starting point is 01:39:45 Olympics that dressed the curling team, a guy I know, his whatever. Yeah. His name is Curling Maddie Hamilton. He was the guy with the hair and the mullet. Six shoes. Sweet tats. Yeah, he was awesome. He was really cool. I think he did this Olympics too, but this Olympics
Starting point is 01:40:01 was fugace. It was. Just like the soccer Lombardi that we're choosing not to win now. Yeah. I'm happy we've made that decision. We'll win the next one. All right, tell the soccer community that the soccer Lombardi is safe from the United States for at least another four years because we don't want to win the shipping container 5,000 soccer Lombardi.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Win it at home, 2026. Yeah, it'll just mean more when it's on home turf too. Oh, where is it? It's here. And? And Canada. And Mexico. Is it still in Mexico?
Starting point is 01:40:29 Oh, that's the one that we can't play in Washington, right? Yeah, it's the poopy pipes, but they're playing in Qatar with cargo shipping containers. Thank you, FIFA, for standing up for yourselves. Yeah. Jesus. Thank you. That's very, very nice of you guys. That says a lot about fucking that stadium in D.C.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Yeah, they'll play in the cargo in the middle of the desert and have to add a bunch of air conditionings to even keep it livable in there, let alone with the World Cup. They will not play at FedEx Field. Those games at Jerry World, though. What's that? Those games will probably be at Jerry World and Allegiant Stadium. Oh, and Lucas Oil.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Lucas Oil. Oh, yeah. Incredible. So far, yeah. Oh, so far on those seats. I'd go watch them. Yeah. I would, too. Incredible. So far. So far, yeah. Oh, so far on those suits. I'd go watch them. Yeah. I would, too.
Starting point is 01:41:07 I almost want to go to Qatar. Let's do it. This show is brought to you by the best ticket app on planet Earth and The Mood. That was pretty good. Hey, that was really good there. Choreographed. I feel like, yeah, very choreographed. We did it eight times before the show started.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Yeah, will you guys practice a little bit? Yeah, a little bit. Just to get it down. Come a little louder on the ooh, you know. Who's directing that and what it's happening? Are you a director? Sometimes. Sometimes Diggs will take the reign.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Sometimes Connor will. Yeah, who has the golden ear? You know what I mean? Because who knows what we need to hear and what we don't need to hear. Does anybody ever say, no, not a good moon drop there? Yeah. Or sometimes AJ. You help FaceTime in just because he
Starting point is 01:41:48 has the outside perspective. Do you guys practice any other words like boom or anything else like that or is it always moon? Sometimes drop the N and just moon. How come Gumpy doesn't get in on the moon chant? That seems like something that's right down his alley. That's the standard back there.
Starting point is 01:42:04 SeatGeek, the reddest ticket buying app on planet Earth and You know, that's like right down his alley. That's the standard back there. SeatGeek, the reddest ticket buying app on planet Earth and... The Moon! Not as much enthusiasm on that one. I'm kind of feeling it. Yeah, we thought it was... Harmony. We didn't rehearse with Gumpy, so that's why it was... Something to think about, though.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Let's go to a break. Let's come back. Okay. something to think about though let's go to a break let's come back can I put a can you put a what's the name of the show on we know Gump doesn't do sound check
Starting point is 01:42:36 alright we're in commercial break right now please and hey welcome back to the show today's video is sponsored by the best ticket buying app on planet Earth and the moon. That was going a little early on you, AJ. Okay, maybe it's the delay because you're in Ohio. OH. What about it?
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Starting point is 01:44:28 when you have the bases loaded, it is devastating. Fuck. It is devastating, AJ, on this Grand Slam Championship. You mean because you didn't hit a Grand Slam? Yeah. That's the point of the game. You need the Grand Slams.
Starting point is 01:44:40 A triple still gives you three runs. Yeah, but it's not about runs. Give me 20 points. Runs are one point grand slam 20 points double points grand slam which you can pick up with the 2x 40 points that's where you need to live damn and if you game it right hit a couple homers in a row and then you get those power-ups you can get you can have a 50 55 point grand slam really oh yeah do homers bring power-ups what do you mean no no okay okay they're right no power-ups? What do you mean? No. Okay, they're random.
Starting point is 01:45:05 No, power-ups are random. Okay. But a lot of people have been saying, oh, I just need to hit a homer every time. It's not the strategy. No, that is not the strategy. No, ground slam. Single, single, single, ground slam.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Single, single, single, ground slam. Single, single, single, ground slam. Now you have a ground slam streak. Exactly. Yeah, they help you. Instead of getting 20, you got a turkey, you got a 25-point Grand Slam. And then you're hoping that you're getting the power-up so you can get a 45
Starting point is 01:45:29 to 50-point Grand Slam. Did you hear what we just learned right there? There are those types of sharks floating around that Grand Slam water. You need to know that, too. You can think you had a good round, and some good gambler comes through and takes 60 cents from you with a fucking 390 or something like that. That's right.
Starting point is 01:45:45 You're scoring in the 300s? Oh, yeah. 400-plus is my high. A gambler comes through and takes 60 cents from you with a fucking 390 or something like that. That's right. How is that? You're scoring in the 300s? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 400 plus is my high. Jeez. Can you compare that to somebody? What's a normal person?
Starting point is 01:45:54 I got 245 last night. Pretty pumped about it. And Ty's getting 400? Yeah. I rarely will get below 300. Jeez. I've never touched 300. So there's probably people getting 800
Starting point is 01:46:05 then, right? No, I've seen some 450s though. Really? Oh yeah. 450, 475. How many ground slams are they hitting? That's what I'm wondering because I don't get power-ups anymore really. Like they've basically... Oh, they're gaming you a little bit. Yeah, they've gamed my account. It's like, okay, well hell, you want a fucking extra five seconds?
Starting point is 01:46:22 Here you go. I'm not seeing very many double multipliers anymore. Well, congratulations. You need a double multiplier. 400. Welcome back down to earth, dude. No, I know. I'm going to have to stop playing.
Starting point is 01:46:32 I lost like 100 bucks the other night. I lost like 35 games in a row. You were waiting for the Wednesdays coming back. Exactly. I was putting up some good scores, too. I was like, okay, I should win with that. Boom. How do you know if you're playing against a real person, not a computer?
Starting point is 01:46:46 Well, it's got to be regulated, right? We just have to trust it from everything that we've heard. We should. That's like the sports book has to be regulated so much. There's crazy regulations. I know they can't mess with that. Yeah, it's real. That's real shit, I guess.
Starting point is 01:47:01 That's what happened with the online gambling with all those. Some professional poker players got in big trouble didn't they because they could see what was coming or they knew things well i don't oh that happened i didn't know that that happened oh yeah back like with the whole poker online poker deal it's not a movie no i didn't think that happened i thought it was all tax stuff that happened with the poker stars and such we had a first we got a friend that got caught up oh yeah we got a friend that was living a high life online poker. I don't know if he could see the cards that were coming. Zito just dropped Ferguson's name
Starting point is 01:47:30 in my ear. I guess maybe that happened with him. Our friend that was doing this professionally, he had a Lexus. He was making like $200,000 while we were in college. Living, by the way. Out of nowhere. He's playing online poker? Happened out of nowhere, too. I remember going back one weekend.
Starting point is 01:47:46 No, he's not around. I go back the next weekend. Hey, he's getting bottle service or whatever. You want to stop by? I'm like, absolutely. It's like, what the fuck happened? It's like, well, I play 20 hands at a time on six TVs, basically. His fucking setup was this huge thing.
Starting point is 01:48:03 And he would just fold unless he had pocket aces, basically. It was like was this huge thing. Damn. And he would just fold unless he had like pocket aces basically. And it was like boom, boom, boom. I knew that was potentially happening so once, I stopped playing
Starting point is 01:48:12 whenever he told me because I was playing a little bit online poker. Everybody was playing it at the time. Then I saw what he was doing and I was like, he was looking for fish.
Starting point is 01:48:20 I'm like, why am I even in there anymore? So I stopped doing it. I didn't know people could see what cards were coming. I knew people were just playing the best hands all the time. And he was, he would log hours on that thing, like 15, 20 hours.
Starting point is 01:48:31 He eventually dropped out of school because he couldn't go to class anymore. And then it all got froze up. All this, just like overnight. He was no longer buying bottle surfers. Jesus. It was all boom, boom, boom. Nightmare. Gone overnight.
Starting point is 01:48:43 For Chris Ferguson. So he owned, I think, Poker Tilt back in the day, and he took everyone's money. Just shut the site down, apparently, and just took everyone's money, if I remember correctly. So I don't think – are you being serious when you said somebody knew what cards were coming? I do remember that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:58 There was either an algorithm or something that someone created. Yeah, some sort of software where you would be able to see other people's hole cards face up. Yeah. Like while they're playing. And that's always the biggest fear whenever you're playing online. And in real life.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Have no chance of winning. You have actually no chance of winning. Yeah. Man, that's fucked up. I assume FanDuel doesn't have that going on. No, I hope not. No, not FanDuel. That's why that's all out of here, right?
Starting point is 01:49:26 Can you play anymore like that? Well, and I would assume they learned from that, right? And then that's when regulations started popping in and it got more highly, highly, highly regulated. Because there's casinos online all over the place. Still, people do video shit more than like... I think the video slots make more money than anything else, right? By far.
Starting point is 01:49:44 Is that legal? I'll send it in the group chat sometimes. and it's like, I may be off, but it's like literally 7X on penny slots over like Blackjack or anything else. Yeah, it's a retirement home. People just chill there. Like, all right, I'm going to. Wait, is this like on FanDuel, or is this something else? No, just Vegas, I think.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Yeah, like what gaming commissions are reporting. So it's legal, though, though that they go on their phone yeah people well I think isn't that the similar software I don't know I don't know how it works anything that's video digitalized I just assume is the same the online stuff I just assume is the same as the video poker stuff which
Starting point is 01:50:20 are the video like slots or any of the video stuff that you do I don't know how people play it all the time. Cause I just think of my friend, Kyle row sitting there fucking in Michigan. You can play casino games on your fan dual app. Yes, you can. Jack and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Roulette, everything. Well, I know Drake, I see Drake playing fucking roulette. That's a dangerous game. Hey, what is a,
Starting point is 01:50:40 what is winning? I know. I see him gambling huge money on his computer. I don't know. I think he's playing poker. I think he was playing poker that one day. Poker. He's played roulette.
Starting point is 01:50:49 I've seen roulette on his. Zito just said blackjack as well. Hey, what a fucking whoosh. He's fun to watch, dude. I talked to him a couple years ago. I'm a big fan of what he has been able to do business-wise, man. That whole crew. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:51:04 They had Caitlyn Jenner on their podcast to actually listen to it. They've had everybody on there. Right? I think everybody's kind of going through there. Good for them, dude. Milk Boys. And what is the podcast? Full Sent. Full Sent.
Starting point is 01:51:20 And then they were the ones that went into the metaverse and said, alright, we're going to be smarter and quicker than everybody else. You can only buy these. This is the only way to get into our area of the metaverse that's coming. What a fucking genius move. $23 million overnight. So smart.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Everybody else is going to try to do it, not be able to figure it out. He said, well, we had a podcast with Gary Vee, and then next day we said we got to fucking do it. That is awesome. Gary Vee hit me up the other day, AJ. Nice. What's up? What's's going on i don't know i think he's getting some uh v gear i think he's doing some v gear something like yeah the v friend shoes the v no i don't think it's just shoes i think it's a full oh it's a full clothing line am i joining team v dude like you know the jordan team you know there's the jordan team
Starting point is 01:52:02 like are we fucking you know what i mean yeah we team? Like, are we fucking, you know what I mean? Are we? Well, I don't know. Are we fucking holding it up, dude? Those shoes were fucking sick. So he's selling, he has like a clothing brand? I think so, yeah. It's like his doodles and stuff, right?
Starting point is 01:52:17 Saw Tom Brady just put out his golf line out. Hey, that looks good too. He's got good stuff. I wonder at what level of life you get to. You're like, I'm going to do a brand, and we're going to really invest in it and make it very nice. When did he have time to make the decision to do a full line of clothing? I'd assume it got pitched to him. Like, you know, Jordan has Jordan.
Starting point is 01:52:37 We should definitely have Brady, right? This just seems like it's a natural happen. Was it his idea? Was it somebody else's idea? Because a lot of their shit's really nice. We've got a couple boxes. It's quality stuff aj like super high quality very very nice stuff right it's like how steph has a golf line through under armor now brady has his own golf line through under armor right is that what brady is so i think it's just him yeah i don't think
Starting point is 01:52:58 it's from under separate yeah i think it's its own thing i i don't know if it's an offset of under armor like jordan is of nike so maybe it's an offset of Under Armour like Jordan is of Nike. So maybe it might be that of Under Armour. But I've treated it as it's its own damn brand completely. Yeah, it's its own thing because I believe Steph's is through Under Armour because there's like two or three players, including Jordan, that have their own brands but underneath the umbrella of Nike, Under Armour, and Brady's is just completely on his own.
Starting point is 01:53:25 Yeah, Brady is just Brady. Made in America, too, I believe is what he said. Made in America. We're selling this shit right here, all right? Is that Tom Shirtless? He was shirtless the other day on a golf course. That is not him. No.
Starting point is 01:53:37 These people are all very skinny. I would like to see what it looks like on somebody that's built like a goddamn barrel. Yeah, it looks good, though. It does. It looks super nice. That's him up top. Yeah, that's him golfing. Hey, him and Aaron going to beat Josh and Pat, you think?
Starting point is 01:53:53 Man, how good are they? How good are Josh and Pat? Well, that's, I mean, I assume you know better than us, right? You see them both. I really don't. Don't you see Patrick golf out there at the Super Celebrity Showdown thing? Yeah, he's out there and he plays. He looks good. I mean, I don't know how good that is. I don't know if he see patrick golf out there at the uh super celebrities showdown thing yeah he's out there and he plays he looks good i mean i don't know how good that is i don't know if that's if he's shooting 78 or 68 i have no idea or 98 or 108 i'm a little worried about my golf game
Starting point is 01:54:14 going into acc i'm gonna golf a lot more though i gotta golf a lot more going in there then not even a fluff huh nothing can't touch it, man. You gotta putt everything. That's gonna be a humbling experience. Punch it. I putt, blame me. I scramble around that course. I am punching out of big, huge trees with pine straw on the ground about 19, 20 times a round
Starting point is 01:54:37 probably. Okay, good. We got like 10 weeks. We got at least a long time. At least five more rounds. That's a full fight camp. Exactly. That's a full fight camp. Exactly. That's a full fight camp. A full USFL season. Boom.
Starting point is 01:54:50 So much time. There's going to be so much growth for the Maulers and for me. Hell yeah. And in the chicken salad department. That's right. All right. 10 weeks. All right.
Starting point is 01:54:59 Here we go. Come on. I'm going to get good. Need to get six rounds in, I think, is what we should shoot for. I need to get pretty flexible, too, stat. I need to start moving a little bit more in the back. Supposed to be beautiful on Saturday. We should get back out there.
Starting point is 01:55:11 I heard 80-some degrees, actually. 28 degrees Celsius, my friend. 28 degrees Celsius. Absolutely ball me out there. Yeah, absolutely. I'm sorry to learn Celsius just strictly from Gumpy because he said it a couple times. I thought we were below freezing, but then it was like 70.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Very nice. It's an interesting scale why did we change you think you get into the 20s you're in a good place my friend what about the 30s just too much i like 30 but people think that might be a bit too hot what is that 90 95 90 to 100 yeah it's a 2728 is Magnifico. A gump's kiss. A gump's kiss. Magnifico. Still got that back nine, you know? Hey, we did get a rain check for the back nine.
Starting point is 01:55:54 I don't know how anybody... That's another thing I've thought about with this fucking ACC thing. I have to sit through an entire 18 holes multiple times. Oh, yeah. You have to walk an entire 18 holes. Multiple times, right? You play three competitive rounds. A lot of times I'll go. Three fucking times.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Thursday is like a pro-am that you play in with a group, and then Friday, Saturday, Sunday are your competitive rounds. You remember how much golf you played in the Bahamas, though? You weren't expecting that. You played like six rounds in like 54 hours. You're right. When there's nothing else to do, I guess. Also, though, I wouldn't walk around.
Starting point is 01:56:27 I mean, I don't play golf really ever anyway, but I wouldn't want to walk around here. That'd be boring. But out there when every shot matters, when there's people there, when it's a tournament, it's a lot different. Hey, I'm going to have to play with somebody. Who am I playing with?
Starting point is 01:56:38 I hope Friday. Friday I'm hoping we go me, you, and A-Rod. I'm pushing him to put that together. Yeah, that'd be cool. That'd be really cool. AJ's going to slow you guys down big time. AJ, I'm worried we go me, you, and A-Rod. I'm pushing him to put that together. Yeah, that would be cool. That would be a really cool round. AJ is going to slow you guys down big time. AJ, I'm worried about it. Slow me down?
Starting point is 01:56:51 What are you talking about? I can shoot 105 in two hours. Hey, me too, by the way. Me too. Trust me, no practice swings. I'm not doing that. Hey, there's going to be a couple. Is that a way to just kind of quit on a hole?
Starting point is 01:57:01 I can just drop one, take a stroke, and then I'm already at. How's the scoring? Stableford. So you've got to avoid double bogeys. Whenever you're drop one, take a stroke, and then I'm already at – how's the scoring? Stableford. So just you got to avoid double bogeys. Whenever you're in a double bogey, you could pick up, which last year I think I talked to my brother a few times when we were walking down the fairway. I was like, I definitely set the record on picking the ball up
Starting point is 01:57:16 450 yards away from the hole. Because, you know, you drive – first one, drive it out of bounds, get a lateral, try to smoke one, drive that sucker out of get a lateral try to smoke one drive that sucker out of bounds then try to punch one out hits a tree and hits you back in the neck and you're like all right we're done here that happened multiple times last year it's cool though then it's like hey on to the next i got minus two let's try to stop this train right now and not do it again and then usually the next three or four holes are double bogeys for me and then it's then i'm at minus 10 you're like okay cool this is a hole i can't climb out of
Starting point is 01:57:49 but you know what i'm always i'm always grinding there's always hope even if i'm not i feel like i can still rally and win the tournament so par is zero or worth one one one point for a par uh Bogey zero. Yep. Okay. So that's why those like bogey putts that are like four feet, those are the biggest putts in your life. If I make those, that's when you'll see me fist pumping a bogey because you're like, yes, no blood, no minus two. And what does a winner normally have at the end of three rounds?
Starting point is 01:58:19 Like low 70s. Jeez Louise. Yeah. That's cumulative? Yeah, it has to be. Yeah, but you didn't have many bogey putts on Saturday. I had a lot of par putts. Louise. Yeah. That's a cumulative? Yeah, it has to be. Yeah, but you didn't have many bogey butts on Saturday. I had a lot of par putts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:29 Yeah. It's a lot different when it all really matters. Yeah, I think it'll be good. No, it does. It motivates. It makes me not play golf any other time because I'm like, yeah, golf is boring when every shot doesn't matter. I got to get more flex on the back.
Starting point is 01:58:44 My back hurt for three days. You know, Ty blew out his shoulder. every shot doesn't matter. I got to get more flex on the back. My back hurt for three days. You know, Ty blew out his shoulder. Yeah, still hurts. I hurt my back. I mean, there's – Yeah. Golf is not as, you know, friendly to the body as everybody talks about. Last year, Vinny Del Negro obviously finished in first, I think, overall.
Starting point is 01:58:58 Round one, he had 23. Round two, he had 26. Round three, he had 20. What? Excuse me? So how do we get points here? Birdie is two? Yeah, got to be. Birdie is two points, I three at 20. Well, excuse me, so how do we get points here? Birdie is two? Yeah, gotta be.
Starting point is 01:59:06 Birdie is two points, I believe, yeah. 26? How many eagles did he have? Is it birdie two or is it three? You tell me, dude. I thought it was three, but maybe it is two. It might be three. 26 points in one round?
Starting point is 01:59:18 Yeah. Sheesh. He's just parring everything, never doubles for them. They never three-putt. I three-putt all day. It looks like par is two. No. Par is one. I know that.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Yeah. Believe me, when all of a sudden you look up and through the first four holes, you're minus eight. I'm like, okay, I played as bad as you can. Let's just climb out of this hole. Let's put a par together. You get a par and you're like,
Starting point is 01:59:45 bam, oh man, what a hole. I put everything together. Minus seven. Okay, cool. This doesn't feel like it's you know, this doesn't feel impossible, right? When do you get out of negatives normally? Or do you end negative? I don't. I end negative usually. I usually have at least one day where everything
Starting point is 02:00:01 completely falls apart and it's just hanging on for dear life. Oh, so you keep the score all the way through yeah what do you mean like after day one you'd be like like after day one okay minus four today okay let's go have a good day tomorrow oh dang i threw a minus 10 up there let's let's have a good day on sunday oh minus 20 cool don't you guys try to get me boozed up okay i'm not i don. I won't peer pressure anybody. I know that you are stone sober. You're a teetotaler, as they say. That's right, especially when I'm golfing. I need nothing.
Starting point is 02:00:31 I'm going to have to keep some hydration methods around. I'm going to have to wear that patch. Oh, yeah. Smart. I'm going to have to wear that because I'm liable to go out there one day. You get hammered, too, in that altitude. You get drunker faster. I'm not drinking anything out there. I'm having no fun. I'm going altitude, you get drunker faster. I'm not drinking anything out there.
Starting point is 02:00:48 I'm having no fun. I'm going to bed. I'm golfing going to bed. Me and Tony Romo are going to be on that driving range. Don't be making those big cheesecake factory orders either, AJ. Yeah, AJ, don't be trying to get me all my stomach all greased up with that terrible food while you order just a bland-ass chicken. I'll get you corn dogs for you. Thank you, sir. I did love that, AJ.
Starting point is 02:01:04 That was very nice of you. It was sliders, too. It feels like only after the first day. Like, if you're in the hunt after the first day, then I think that's just a win for the entire weekend. Romo's got straight 20s across the board. That's even more impressive when you consider... You'll definitely put up 20-plus on day one. AJ, I'm not even close to that right now, okay?
Starting point is 02:01:20 I got 31 years to get your 20 million, pal, and put up a 20 on a day one. Oh, I'm not worried about that. No, that's not a thing. Yeah, I think it's... Believe me, it's going to be awesome. I really hope we get to play together. It'll be fun. So Thursday, you're with some random group? It's like the Pro-Am Scramble thing, yeah. It's actually
Starting point is 02:01:36 fun. You get a chance to play the course. You and Phil. Huh? Nicholson? No, no, no. He's playing with some slappy who's a sponsor yeah i'm playing with a business person oh he's playing with a pro hold on how much is the sponsorship can i can i sponsor something so that i can just play golf with my group uh i don't know maybe you can you can reach out and try i've been yeah i've been lucky i play with the corbell brown foreman people
Starting point is 02:02:02 every year pretty much oh so this is a big networking, gathering thing. They're all fun, though. Believe me, they're out there to have fun. It's not like the normal stuffy corporate thing. Am I all alone? Are you all alone with that group? I mean, you and your caddy in that group, yeah. I thought you said you weren't getting in until Thursday night, though.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Oh, yeah. No, I think I'm going to have to be there. Yeah, believe me. You can tell them you don't want to play in that, and I'm sure you don't have to. No, no, I'd like to be nice to the people for extending the invitation. I know a lot of people would like to play in this that don't get invited, so I would do it all.
Starting point is 02:02:30 But I will tell you that's one of the biggest fears of my life is what's happening on Thursday right there, being trapped with people I don't know for five hours. Who's going to caddy for you? I don't know. I don't know how that's going to work out either. It's an interesting thing. I thought the other day that it has to be Connor while he was golfing, you know, just because the energy
Starting point is 02:02:48 that he will bring, no matter how bad I shoot, he will, he always feels as if the next shot is a going in the hole. You know what I mean? So Connor's energy on that course on Saturday, I was like, God, I have Connor on there. Then I was thinking to myself would be hysterical for a drunk ass tie to be fucking out here cad there. Then I was thinking to myself, would be hysterical for a drunk-ass tie to be fucking out here caddying. I mean, there is just so many different angles to go. You know what I mean? You could rotate.
Starting point is 02:03:12 There's three rounds, too. You can change it up. Is that real? Is that something you can do? I know caddies that have passed out mid-round and had to tag somebody in because they were too hungover. So we might have a starter. And we might go into the bullpen depending upon what happens.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Yeah, that's what we'll do. And we can record this all, I assume, right? Are we allowed to or no? Do we have to deal with that? Oh, yeah. I play with guys that have had people there recording the whole round. Oh, we can make a full thing out of this. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Okay. All right. This has gone awesome. Yeah. All right, dude. Look at us. Starting in blunder. All right.
Starting point is 02:03:44 So we've got to figure out who the aces are, who's starting this whole thing off, who's going to come in relief, who's going to close this thing out. And then we've got to make sure who's going to be available day two after night one. Obviously gets a hold of some people, I'd assume. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Early tee times. Excuse me? Depending on how you play, you could have some early tee times. The worst, the earlier, right? Yeah. It should probably be later on. California, though, you're going to be on Eastern Time still. Yeah, I won't even be able to get dressed to that.
Starting point is 02:04:12 Actually, I think it's right after Money in the Bank. So you'll be on that time. Money in the Bank is in Vegas. I believe in Vegas. You're good. So it's like right in that out there. In that area. Yeah. No, the early tea time will mean something then at that point.
Starting point is 02:04:30 How early is the earliest tea time? 6 a.m.? 7 a.m.? Nah, like, yeah, maybe 7.30. It's not crazy. Oh, fuck. That's 10.30. Are you kidding me? What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:04:38 No big deal at all. Go to bed by 3.30. It'll be good. All right, we're getting out of here. 3.30 will be the time to sort of hammer it down. I can't wait for tomorrow night that's hockey talk I got accosted on the internet by a hockey talk
Starting point is 02:04:50 fan saying I don't talk enough about hockey talk I'd like to let everybody know that's on me with that being said I also thought it was on tonight so I need to pay attention more to things. Yeah I didn't think that was the case I told the guys like Pat talks about it a lot Yeah well I appreciate you saying that but i did appreciate that person going to bat for that's
Starting point is 02:05:09 hockey talk too because as a avid watcher of that's hockey talking in a comment section user i do like the thought of that show growing the the the bad thing about it is hockey's over yeah unfortunately that's kind of the problem. Hockey's completely over. Pete was very much alive right now. Nope. Nope. No, it's pretty dead. Pretty dead. Starting goalie. Breaks his fucking foot.
Starting point is 02:05:30 What happened to his foot? Really dropped a cinder block on it. Was he working? Yeah, was he paving a road? Was he building a house? That would make sense. How'd he break his foot? I think it was one of those scumbag islanders crashing the crease.
Starting point is 02:05:42 These sons of bitches. We've been saying it all year. They need to get a backup who's a veteran ready to go, and they didn't listen. Well, thanks. Their goalie now stinks. This guy is so bad. Our guys stunk all season, so I know how you feel.
Starting point is 02:06:03 Well, listen, that's not a slight on them as humans. No, no, no. Sure, this guy's a good guy, but fucking the guy doesn't know how to play goalie in the sport of hockey. What the purpose, the goal is, the points are, how it works. It just feels like he forgets that when he's doing his job. Did he give up 11
Starting point is 02:06:19 goals before? No, still hasn't done that. No, but he'll get... How about 10 goals? No. How about 9 goals? The Penguins. Not the Red Wings. But follow up, he has given up some goals that you would think this guy has had to have given up 20, 30 goals in a game. Put his backup in.
Starting point is 02:06:36 You know what I mean? We need the Zamboni driver from Canada. Oh, yeah. What's that guy's name? Matt something. Matt Crawford. Who is Penguins backup? He's pretty good. Johnson. Louis Domingue. Yeah, Domingue. Oh, Louis. Big's that guy's name? Matt something. Matt Crawford. Who is Penguins backup? He's pretty good. Johnson. Louis Domingue.
Starting point is 02:06:47 Yeah, Domingue. Oh, Louis? Big dick Domingue. I mean. Louis Domingue? It doesn't sound like. No, Latin American. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:56 Louis Domingue. Happy about Louis Domingue. Louis Domingue. Let's get Louis Domingue in the goddamn party. Talk Louis in. He's probably going to see some ice soon. Huh? He's probably going to see some ice time soon.? He's probably going to see some ice time soon.
Starting point is 02:07:05 Let's see if this guy's got it or not. Sounds like he's got it. Louie Domingue, if I know Louie, where's he from? Is he from the Baby Pens? How do we assign him? He was assigned as a free agent in the office. I'm pretty sure he's been in the league. He's 30 years old.
Starting point is 02:07:17 He's been in the league for a while. Oh, this guy's a vet. He's a proven vet. You don't know your fucking ass from a hole in the ground, Gump. We got a proven vet, Louie Domingue. We just haven't known because now is Louis Domingue time. That's great news. Hockey Talk's all the way back.
Starting point is 02:07:29 It's tomorrow night. Let's go. 8 p.m. Eastern, youtube.com forward slash that's hockey talk. Hammered Down will be in 15, 20 minutes at youtube.com forward slash hammer. Dot. Giving out winners tonight? Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:07:40 In what? NBA, NHL? NBA, NHL, MLB. Gumpy was undefeated in MLB last night. Hey, let's go. Yeah, baby, let's go. Magnifico. What is it, first five still?
Starting point is 02:07:49 Oh, yeah. Heard first bucket last night, too. Plus 850, Freddie Van Fleet. Oh, nice. Drained a three right away, didn't he? Yeah, it was sick. Dude, they have first method with each player. So, like, if you think Kevin Durant's going to score the first points,
Starting point is 02:08:08 you can bet all the different ways that he would score because they have Kevin Durant layup first points of the game method. Kevin Durant three-point. Kevin Durant other. Kevin Durant layup. That whole thing. You can put 100 on that if you think he's going to score or 25 on that or whatever.
Starting point is 02:08:24 And with how big the odds are on the other side of it you can you can win now granted if he's not the first person to score it's kind of fucked because it's very little odds because there's a lot of other people on the fucking court you know especially whenever you know there's a lot of things going on with the point guard and the crowd and everything like that it could be a atmosphere but they have a lot of they have so many bets on them at this point unbelievable i don't know how they are able to odds it all. Especially because you can parlay that shit. It's like you can, I saw Foxy do one,
Starting point is 02:08:51 it was like $1 to win 50 grand. Have to. Five to win $250,000. Yeah. Yes. Where's the lobbyists? I need to get some lobbyists so this can come to Ohio. Well, you guys already did, right?
Starting point is 02:09:03 At one point, didn't in Ohio? I believe so. I think that's why it's taking a little longer because the last guy to lobby for it got ran out of town. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:13 Remember? Tony Gonzalez. Good luck, Gonzo. Good luck, Gonzo. Hey, Gonzo. We don't know what you did, but somehow you turned everybody
Starting point is 02:09:21 against you. Politics. Stuff. Yeah. Politics. Stuff. Yeah. Dangerous game. They yell at each other this way, but they will turn their heads at some points and yell. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:32 And then they'll come back to each other. Worth it though. Gonta's going to be a billionaire sometime. Smoked that double in the congressional game. Yeah. Fucking last week in office. Yeah. Slaughtered.
Starting point is 02:09:42 I think he even had a bat twirl at one point. Fucking. He's a freak athlete. Great athlete. I think they reconsidered bringing him back after that game, too. We need you to run again. Is he fucking Gonzo's power to the gaps? So do they just get along in the dugout there?
Starting point is 02:09:58 At that point, he was getting crucified by everybody in that dugout, I think, right? Yeah, I'd imagine. So I'd have to see the lineup card, too. He probably should have been batting leadoff or something. They probably had him in the nine hole. Yeah, they definitely did. He was kind of an afterthought in that whole thing. And if you heard the way he was announced,
Starting point is 02:10:10 it was a lot less energy than everybody else. And the thing about it was both fans boot. Yeah. So that was the thing. But in the dugout, is he getting along with all those people? When they come off air, are the politicians getting along or not, do you think? I bet they are. I bet they're very cordial, like behind the scenes.
Starting point is 02:10:30 No question. They have to be. He said some terrible things about me. Oh, that's all right. Good double. I assume they treat him like a starring pitcher. Like, they're just not even talking to him. Gonzo's in his own world over there.
Starting point is 02:10:41 Did AOC, I heard AOC hit a Grand Slam. Really? She is a Grand Slalom champion? At Nationals Park? Wherever that game was that Gonzo was in. Wow, I didn't hear that. Because the only thing I saw was Gonzo with the inside the park thing. I didn't know the Grand Sloms were happening
Starting point is 02:10:56 because it appeared as if the average age of that was, wow, 75? Yeah. They were fucking getting after it, though. Those couple people smoking from first base to second base. Yeah. And then that ball, you know, it was like the floater from rookie of the year. I mean, it was a good time. There's some good level skill out there.
Starting point is 02:11:12 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. People play adult sports like that still, right, around places? I see videos on Instagram of people playing like adult soccer leagues, like pickup. Oh, yeah. I see that at this indoor facility where my kids have different practices. Like 8 o'clock at night, I see a bunch of adults playing.
Starting point is 02:11:27 Some of them play pickup lacrosse leagues and soccer, like full competitive soccer leagues. Yeah, they have like teams and shit. That seems awesome. A lot of them wear jerseys and jeans. Maybe that's what I get in shape for, some adult soccer league. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:42 Just join one of the leagues at the – oh, wait. Is the Incrediplex still – No. Go to the rec center. Oh, it's a lumberyard league. Yeah. Yeah. Just join one of the leagues at the... Oh, wait. Is the Incrediplex still... No. Go to the rec center. Oh, it's a lumberyard now. Yeah. Is it really?
Starting point is 02:11:50 Yeah. They've turned that into a lumberyard? Yeah, the parking lot just has wood just stacked up in it. Oh, man. The Incrediplex was a beautiful place. Yeah, it was. There's got to be a league somewhere. I'd love to strap them on for a match.
Starting point is 02:12:03 Me and Goop, dude. Yeah. Goop, you play goalie? You shitting me, dude? Middle of the park running like a goddamn stallion. I believe it. That'd be great. I think there's like a
Starting point is 02:12:15 neighborhood soccer team league here in Indiana. I've been asked to support a couple of the different teams and I tried to look into the league and I think they have like, I don't know, what are they running? Are people running fucking 11 on 11? No way. No way. What are people running? I'd like to play
Starting point is 02:12:31 if you get in a league. I'd like to come join every once in a while. Would you really? Yeah, it's very painful. I told, but like, when I played that fathers versus daughters game a couple years ago, it got me back into it. Made me want to play. Okay, okay. So look, we got A.J. Roman in the field. I'll play a little bit. This is going to have to be a bit
Starting point is 02:12:47 get our cardio up to where yours is, I think. I'm playing both. I don't know the positions, but I'm scoring goals and I'm playing defense. Oh, a midfielder, this guy. Wow. Maybe we set up a little five-on-five turf field at the Thunderdome.
Starting point is 02:13:03 The Thunderdome does not have a single piece of flat land, so we would have to get that thing rolled pretty good if we want to have any level of skill on the pitch there. But we should try to find those people. It looks like so much fun. I see Darius Butler running full five-on-five, like highly competitive. I'm like, where the fuck are those games at? Because I go here, and it's like, you know, there's like pickup
Starting point is 02:13:25 road. It feels like there's teams and all looks awesome. Uniforms. Yeah, it looks awesome. We just got to put a team together and show up and say we got next. Yeah, but then that's the thing. There's no way we'll show up every week. No, no, no. There's no chance of us showing. Zero. Zero. Fucking chance of us showing up.
Starting point is 02:13:41 What's that? Three weeks in, we're probably all done. You just say once a month. Once a month, we could commit to. This is like USFL viewers. Yeah. First half of that first game, we're going to be pumped about it. This is exciting. Second half is going to get a little bit long.
Starting point is 02:13:55 Probably going to be struggling off the field. Next week, some people are going to miss just because certain things are going to magically pop up. And then by week three, we're going to be regretting our decision. All right. Maybe next year. Maybe be regretting our decision. All right. Maybe next year. Maybe we try something next year. All right.
Starting point is 02:14:09 We'll focus on golf right now. Focus on golf after the World Cup. Focusing on Tahoe. Yeah. Focusing on Tahoe. It's golf season. We don't have time to get into golf. No.
Starting point is 02:14:18 Or into soccer. No. I don't have time. Jeez, Luis. All right. That was a sign. Yep. Golf season. Golf season. Grab the club. Coming have time. Jeez, Luis. All right. That was a sign. Yep. Golf season.
Starting point is 02:14:27 Golf season. Grabbed the club. Coming for it. Yeah, dude. All right. We're out of here. Hammered down in about 15 minutes. You're the best.
Starting point is 02:14:34 Have an incredible day. Thank you to all the callers. Thank you very much to Tyson Fury for stopping by. And Shannon Kraut. He was awesome. Incredible. As was Tyson. I guess Tyson enjoyed his time,
Starting point is 02:14:45 allegedly what his people said to us afterwards, which is good. I mean, he sure seemed like he did. Yeah. He wants to beat your ass, but that Canelo question was shit. Oh, yeah. No, never. Canelo is a stud golfer. He just picked it up, right?
Starting point is 02:14:59 Like three years ago or something? He plays at Tahoe, doesn't he? Did you see Ty? Sorry, I know you were talking. For some reason, it's stepping on everyone else more lately. It has. No, I just said he plays at Tahoe, doesn't he? Yeah, he didn't last year because something with a fight, I think.
Starting point is 02:15:16 But he's been there a couple years. And then the first year he was there, he played pretty well. He's like, oh, I just started like six months ago. And he has a coach. And I saw like a behind-the-scenes thing that he did where during his training camps he plays every single day. See, that's what I got to do. Like we got to sneak in and get one before the show almost.
Starting point is 02:15:34 We got to start doing pre-show meetings on the course. On the course, yeah. There you go. 9 a.m. tee time. Yeah. Be in here before 11. Yeah, because we'll just run through nine holes real quick. Yeah, do a quick nine.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Get some good green time. Put out some putts. Just get swings. Just getting hats. Yep. Just visualizing the shot like Scratch Golf Tips told me on Instagram. Visualize every single shot beforehand, then get down in there and just make it happen. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 02:16:03 Scratch Golf Tips, dude. It's the new golf fix. You ain't fucking know that shit, AJ. On hole six, if hole six is a really good hole, fuck 789. We'll just get out of there then end it on a high note. Bingo. Keep the energy and mojo high. I never understood how other kickers or punters could end a workout on a bad ball.
Starting point is 02:16:19 Exactly. And you're like, well, it teaches you mental toughness. It's like, well, I'm going to go about happy tonight. I'm going to hit a bomb. All right? Yeah. And then I'm going to walk off to that. I'm going to hit a bomb. And then I'm going to walk off on that one. This is the last one.
Starting point is 02:16:31 No matter what, some people say, well, there's a little bit of a matter. Always leave on a make. Yeah, always. Yeah, it keeps you coming back. But there's some people that like that toughness. Oh, yeah. Maybe they just can't make good balls. True. True.
Starting point is 02:16:45 Golf. There was a couple good shots that kept us around. Ty almost holed out from 140 or something. That's a pretty nice ball. Couldn't even see it, by the way. Ty couldn't even see it. Is there a ball up there? You're fucking two feet. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:57 That's me. Jesus. How about Bruce? Has Bruce gotten better? He shot 61 nine holes. Not bad. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 02:17:04 We're out of here. Hammer Don is in 15 minutes. Not bad. You all are the best humans on earth. Thank you so much. Yeah, we're back tomorrow. Big guest tomorrow. Huge.
Starting point is 02:17:13 Hey, legit. Oh, yeah. Big Wednesday. We have somebody booked tomorrow? Yes. Dude Perfect? Yeah. No, not Dude Perfect yet.
Starting point is 02:17:20 And by the way, you showed up in my Instagram stories when I did a question thing and said that me and Dude Perfect should collab totally. We already did. Already did. Fool. I meant more. Well, you didn't say that in the thing. Next one.
Starting point is 02:17:34 All right, I'll do it today. All right, we'll see you guys tomorrow. 21 hours. Bye. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Bye.

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