The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 646 - Happy 4/20, Deebo Samuel Requests A Trade From The 49ers, Rob Ninkovich, Peter Schrager, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 20, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the breaking news that Deebo Samuel has officially requested a trade from the 49ers, which teams might make sense as a landing spot for him, how things got to where they're at right now, what other rumors we're hearing draft wise, and much more. Joining the progrum to chat about everything happening around the NFL right now including if Patriots fans should panic about not having an offensive coordinator, if you can win in the NFL anymore with a dominant defense and great run game, his thoughts on the NFL Draft, and if he heard anything about Tom Brady getting a piece of the Dolphins ownership and playing Quarterback, is 2x Super Bowl Champion, member of the Patriots' 2010's All-Decade Team, ESPN NFL analyst, Rob Ninkovich (22:22-44:03). Later, on his birthday, NFL Insider for Fox, co-host of the Emmy nominated progrum Good Morning Football and friend of the show, Peter Schrager stops by to unveil his mock draft 2.0, if he's heard anything new about the Deebo Samuel stuff, and what he thinks is going to happen on draft night (55:49-1:21:52). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It is a glorious April 20th. And today's vibes are going to be all-time highs here on this sports show. That begins now. Thank you enough for joining us here on 420. I hope your laughs are fantastic. I hope the snacks are delicious. And I hope the vibes and conversation are all nothing but super positive. Today, as we celebrate a plant that has been vilified by people that don't understand it at all.

I hope you have an absolutely great Wednesday, April 20th. I hope you have good reminiscence, good stories, and just I hope you have a good time today. That's what we're going to try to do as we talk about all the things happening around the sports world. Rob Ninkovich, Super Bowl champion from the New England Patriots, will join us in about 17 minutes or so I can't wait to chat with him about all the happenings around the NFL including the draft it's just 8 days away

8 days from now dreams will come true 8 days from now everybody's work or not everybody but the people that get drafted their work the things that you don't see the summers the early mornings the late nights the anxiety the drives the work all comes to a head on whether or not nfl dreams will come true obviously the draft spectacular is just for round one on thursday april 28th and we can't wait for you to join us we have massive guests joining us. Huge. Locked in. Already. Big time guests.

It will be a surprise. And some of them will be, I think people will be like, holy shit, how the hell did we book them? Yeah, I think so. I think we're diving into a couple war zones. Whoa. Excuse me? Sorry, not war zones. Sorry. There's actually those happening. Peace, peace, everybody.

War rooms. There we go. War rooms. The NFL war rooms. I believe we'll be FaceTiming directly into a couple of those. Holy shit. Peace, everybody. War Rooms. There we go. Yeah, War Rooms. The NFL War Rooms. I believe we'll be FaceTiming directly into a couple of those. Oh, shit. Yeah, while the draft's happening to see what they got cooking. And then in the second hour today, we got birthday boy, Peter Schrager. Hey!

Peter! Peter Schrager, Emmy-nominated host of Good Morning Football, insider for Fox NFL. He will be breaking down his second mock draft. Remember, he only does two mock drafts, and he does them not because of how he scouts the players, but because of what his inside sources are telling him from around the league. A couple changes made from his last one to this one, and also today we have Mitt's mock 4.0.

What? Here we go. A lot of changes on our office's mock draft, mock drafter, and that would be Mitt's mock draft. A lot of changes. What's he hearing? Who's he talking to? Can't wait for today to begin.

Let's go to the toxic table. Happy 420 at Ty Schmidt at Boston. Connor, how you guys doing? Pretty good, Pat. Happy 420 to you as well. We're talking about these mock drafts. I don't know if it's – I wouldn't say it's news, but I have seen in the Packers sphere a lot of people saying,

hey, maybe Jordan Love gets moved on draft night. Maybe Jordan Love in a second-round pick and then maybe another late-round pick. Maybe it's not going to be DK Metcalf. Maybe they go get Tyler Lockett instead. So I'm kind of just— Where is this coming from? Is this 420 or is this— No, well, it is 420, which is maybe why I'm kind of just buying into this 1,000%,

and now I will be incredibly heartbroken if it doesn't happen. But I saw that, and I was like, you know what? That actually does make a little bit of sense. Well, Mark Murphy said it's going to get interesting on draft night. Trading Jordan Love, admitting your mistake, and moving on, and bundling that with a couple other things to get a big-time prize weapon for Aaron Rodgers after losing Devontae Adams. I mean, that would definitely make a great 420 for everybody.

Yeah, absolutely. And if you could do that without giving up one of the two first-round picks you have as well, I mean, this is bizarro world, so we're not going to go there yet. But my interest and my excitement for the draft just continues to rise as we get closer to it. And this is what, like, every team does, right? And that's why before every single season,

every single fan base has a little bit of optimism about something. And then as the weeks go on, some optimism slowly dwindles away, especially if you're in a town like Detroit. Right, absolutely. I mean, we're going to draft Aiden Hutchinson, hometown hero, and he's going to take us to the playoffs next year, 10-7 playoff win. Thank you, Aiden. Okay, shout-out to Aiden.

Shout-out to MCDC. Day Stoosh. Happy 420 to you as well, Foxy. Allosh. Happy 420 to you as well, Foxy. Happy 420 to you as well, Evan Fox. But yeah, this is the time where people have high hopes. This is the time where people open their minds, broaden their horizons, and say maybe my team will do something

that it has never done before in hopes of winning a goddamn Lombardi because they're watching. Harbaugh even admitted to this from the Baltimore Ravens. He said, people are seeing what the Rams are doing. People are seeing what Tampa Bay did. People are seeing what the Chiefs did. If you have a plethora of awesome on your team and you can do whatever you want to do on the offensive side of the ball, when people get hurt, you still got people ready to go that are better than everybody else. You can make an actual playoff run.

Imagine if they didn't bring in Leonard Fournette, right? Like imagine if the Tampa Bay Buccaneers didn't bring in Leonard Fournette. Imagine if the L.A. Rams didn't bring in Vaughn Miller. And towards the end of that thing, Matthew Stafford, the list goes on and on. And with the Chiefs, I mean, they re-signed Travis Kelsey, keep him on the team while having Tyreek Hill and McCole Hardman and just drafting and picking up pieces and just making them absolutely loaded. Maybe a team that would never act like that, the Green Bay Packers, will maybe start seeing that's what it takes to win in Lombardi these days

in the NFL. The proof is literally in the Lombardi pudding that has been happening. Maybe the Packers make some changes this year. Maybe. We'll see. I mean, the Rodgers stuff indicates they realize the window is now. You really can't kick the can down the road. They need to do whatever they can do to try to win a Super Bowl

within the next three years, and I think that finally has kind of set in. So we'll see. Maybe they do get a guy like Tyler Lockett on draft night. Patriots fans care about the draft? You guys got Mac Jones last year. That had to be quite a surprise. It doesn't feel like the Patriots fans really buy into the draft. No, not at all.

I mean, the biggest news. Yeah, see, they're the only team. Yeah, when you said that, that was the first thing I thought. I was like, man, I guess I'm kind of on an island here because all I expect from the draft is a trade back, probably backload a couple third-round, fourth-round picks. We need a couple good teamers. Exactly.

We need a couple glue guys. The biggest news coming out of New England is Belichick's going to coach until he's 95 years old. Everyone's saying basically, yeah, this guy's not slowing down anytime soon. And Brady winning that Super Bowl actually kind of motivating Bill even more like, hey, now I have to prove that I can win without Brady because he already proved he can win without me. I saw him playing pocket sticks in public with

his lady. Where were they at? They were at the Vanderbilt baseball game. It was actually Bill's. Hey, they're in love. That was good to see Bill. Admit himself. It was a good slide in. He had a good grin on his face.

They were having a time of their life. I was so happy for Bill. I'd never seen him with a baseball hat on his face. I mean, they were having a time of their life. I was so happy for Bill. Yeah, I'd never seen him actually with a baseball hat on, so that was very interesting to see a little flat-brimmed Vandy. But, you know, they get along so well because she knows, hey, when football season comes around, and that's right now really. Well, you don't know this. Oh, no, I do.

No, people inside, I believe it's Linda's camp. Maybe it's not Linda, but maybe it's Linda's camp have said, yeah, But maybe it's Linda's camp Have said Yeah when football comes around She just lets Bill Do Bill She doesn't see him Typically for a couple weeks At a time Unless we win

But if we lose She ain't seeing him That's why it works Hey listen Bill's going off to a tour He's got a tour duty Here you go Look at how happy he is

Wow Just having a good time Taking in a ball game Smiling She posts it on his IG him with a cake and candles. I didn't know he liked either of those. Awesome. I can't believe he has time to watch a baseball

game with draft coming around. He's got to find what the diamond in the D4 haystack. Isn't that what he normally is up to? You guys getting worse? Is he mailing it in? People are saying he's going to be able to coach longer because he's going to Vanderbilt.

Look at Bill Belichick enjoying his life. We have not seen that in a long, long time. Look how happy this guy is. Yeah, that makes me think that he knows, hey, the guys that we already got in our building are enough to take us all the way. And the draft is obviously great, but we are looking at probably three or four D3 quarterbacks who are going to make unbelievable slot receivers. And then we'll probably get one or two big linemen

that'll come in and play their game. I'm not worried about anything. If Bill's happy, then I'm on cloud nine. I believe Schrag's mock has the Pittsburgh Steelers taking Malik Willis, but that leads into a great conversation. At Tone Diggs, there's been a lot of movement on the picks, like for sports books

for mock drafters for everything it feels like every day that comes and goes we learn a new team is interested in a new player the quarterback one fascinating everybody just assumes that the carolina panthers are going to take quarterback at six albert breer says that's so fast okay yeah albert breer who been been around the NFL a long time. I think he works for Sports Illustrated now. He runs what? Good Morning Football now? No.

Good Morning After Football. Morning After Football. Morning Morning Quarterback. Football Monday mornings. Knew it was wonderful. Knew it was wonderful. It's 420. Anyways, the legendary Monday morning quarterback series that Albert Breer runs

and has run and was handed over by Peter King because of how long he's been in there. He said, don't. The Carolina Panthers might take one of these tackles that are available and then try to make a bundle package to either get a trade for a quarterback or something like that, whether it's Baker or someone else. The quarterback thing is fascinating because everybody assumes the Panthers are in on quarterback, Steelers are in on quarterback, the Lions have visited with every single quarterback.

They're at 2, 32, and 34. Who is going to take a quarterback, or are these quarterbacks potentially going to have a draft night like Aaron Rodgers, like a Baker, no, Johnny Manziel. Brady Quinn. Brady Quinn. Are we going to see that on draft night? Why are any of these guys going to the draft? Good question.

Why are you going? What are we doing? I don't fully understand. Very, very good question on why they're going. Malik Willis is one of them is going, I understand, because he's going to go in the first round, it feels like. Corral's going. Not so sure he's going to go in the first round it feels like um Corral's going um not so sure he's going to go in the first round so that one's yeah but we don't know anything about anything what do you mean remember Matt Corral he only needs one team to be sure yeah that's all he only needs one team to be interested

that's it he needs the illusion of two teams but one team just to be interested and everything can change I mean there's always a pick that comes out of nowhere. But also with that being said, we went into the draft smoke and mirror season thinking that all these dudes were not first-round quarterbacks. Now we're on the other side of it, free agency, and we're in the middle of smoke and mirror season. And now we're hearing like three, four of these guys could potentially go. I am so flustered and fascinated by this because if one goes, three are going to go because people are going to panic.

But if that delays, like Albert Breer of Monday Morning Quarterback is obviously stating that they're going to take a tackle, not take a quarterback, that thing could just kind of wade into water. That quarterback buoy could kind of just keep on bouncing back, and every one of those picks all of a sudden gets a lot more expensive probably to the people in the back there thinking about maybe taking a quarterback in the second round. Oh, now we can get maybe a late teen teen maybe we can slide into the 20s here let's go ahead and make that happen i'm just interested by that particular

thing because the quarterback is the program and everybody knows it's quarterback's program ball's program over under is three and a half it's minus 170 to the under uh for quarterbacks taken in the first round so they're they're thinking that Pickett and Willis are going to go and then Ritter's the third there to go in the first round. So, yeah, if you do get that over three and a half, then it is going to be someone like Corral. But betting on the draft is the best because it's the one time of the year where you know pretty much the same amount as the books do

because if you just follow the news and stuff like that, now you've got to sift through the smoke screen and stuff like that and so do the books they gotta do too so it's really the one time of the year where the it's an even playing field to maybe make some money on the book we shook the book last oh yeah no big deal we made some money on the book we shook the book on that number three overall shout out to our inside sources that told us something that hey it ain't what it's been said to everybody. And that odd one from like minus 170 to like for Mac Jones to be number three overall. Yeah, he might have even been

longer or shorter odds. He might have been in the 200s at some point. And then boom, that thing goes all the way up. Trey was plus 300 at a point and then fucking jumped all the way like minus 300 or whatever by the time the draft is. Yeah, correct order. Completely bounced because it was Lawrence, Wilson, Mack, and then Kyle Pitts.

Yeah, because you can Kentucky Derby this thing too. You can get trifectas. Yeah, win, place, and show. Yeah, absolutely. You can do that with the draft. We'll be live at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show for our third ever draft spectacular. Last year, banana land.

Absolute banana land. We are not expecting the same type of results as last Draft Spectacular. We would like a couple people maybe to come hang out with us as we pass by the seven hours that the first round takes. Takes a long time. This will be a seven-hour show, and it might seem as if we are begrudgingly doing this. We are. Okay? Oh, yeah. Because this as if we are begrudgingly doing this. We are.

Okay? Oh, yeah. Because this is always our biggest show. It makes no sense why it's our biggest show, but we have a great time for a certain amount of time, and we kind of lull into it. What the fuck are we doing? We don't know. Because there's going to be seven, eight picks straight that are going to take two hours,

and we're not going to know a single one of them, and they're not going to be like a— it's going to be like an offense alignment. Very important to the game, but, I mean, how much are we going to know a single one of them. And they're not going to be like a – it's going to be like an offense alignment. Very important to the game. But, I mean, how much are we going to be able to banter about that? And then the next one's going to come, oh, this linebacker from – fuck, we don't know who this person is. This team also stinks. That's why they're picking it this time.

So it just becomes quite an interesting evening to kind of – it's almost like a social experiment, just watching us kind of try to fill seven hours. Super mega guests though which i'm very excited about and uh i i can't wait to see how it all shakes up let's talk about some of the vets here on 420 allegedly the niners would sign debo samuel to a new contract remember this is something that came out from the baltimore ravens camp whenever they would negotiate a deal uh extension with Lamar Jackson. If Lamar Jackson would just come in the door.

John Harbaugh actually talked to Rich Eisen and he said, hey, like Lamar has always been different. When Lamar wants to do the negotiation and come in, we will make it happen. And then John Harbaugh actually said, if you want to, you know, talk about Rich, if you want to talk about like you going to your boss and asking for a raise, we can have a full conversation about that as well. I think Harbaugh's pissed that everybody's kind of watching how contracts are going because the easy narrative would be able to say that Lamar Jackson isn't going into the Baltimore Ravens to get probably $200 million guaranteed at this point, at least maybe $250 million because of what Deshaun Watson just signed with Cleveland Browns and everything going on there because he doesn't want to be a Baltimore Raven. It's the easy narrative to say. In Harbaugh's, like, that is not the case at all. Lamar just wants to play ball, and then he'll get his deal done when he gets his deal done because he represents himself alongside his mom.

So now we move forward here to Deebo Samuel, and it's being reported via Schefter, who is plugged in, I believe, with the Niners. Now, you can think however you want about Schefter, and I assume a lot of people have kind of given up on the human that is Schefter. Right. But the Schefter Twitter account is a very important account to the NFL world, regardless of how you feel about him. He is reporting that San Francisco would pay Debo Samuel today, tomorrow, the next day.

It's not that hard to figure out what the contract would look like. This, I think, is Debo not wanting to get a deal done. The 49ers are ready. Debo's the one that put a halt to everything for right now, says Schefter on ESPN, reported by our guy Akash Anaverathan. Yep. Akash Anaverathan at Akash Avenal. Akashanav.

Akashanav. Akashanav. A-K-A-S-H-A-N-A-V. We apologize, Akash Annaverithan if we got that wrong. I think it was pretty good. People pronounce me as McAfee all the time. I do not like it. I apologize for that.

But whatever the case, Debo's saying he doesn't want to do the deal. Is that the case? Was it nowhere near what Debo was expecting? Because Schefter alludes to what the contract's probably going to look like with other contracts that have happened, with how good Debo Samuel is. It is Lamar not doing it. Debo not doing it.

Is that because they want to go somewhere else? Is that because they want to wait for other deals to get done? Is that because they want the deals to be bigger? We have no idea. I guess we just got to sit and wait. Debo Samuel would look fantastic in a Colts jersey. Dan Orlovsky actually said that the Colts are a team that needs weapons. Thanks, Orlovsky.

Dan Orlovsky says the Colts' top two wide receivers have 146 career catches, the least amount of any NFL starting duo. Cooper Cupp had 145 catches last season all by himself. Their number two wide receiver, D Dolan, has 18 career catches. They need wide receivers in the worst possible way in more than any team in hashtag NFL, hashtag NFL draft. I hope this got into the hashtag NFL conversations. Sure.

And I hope it got into the hashtag NFL draft conversation as well. Good tagging, good tweeting, good conversating. But, yeah, this has been a problem for the last couple years. Maybe Deebo Samuels said, I don't want to play for the Niners. I want to play for the fucking Colts. I don't know. I think he's saying I want to play for the Patriots. But, I mean, he liked that Instagram, right, that was, you know,

we're not taking anything less than 25 mil, and that's probably why Schefter's saying they know what the number is. But there is kind of that thought. Same with Lamar. Like, hey, I can probably maximize my bag if I make this a bidding war. Just go to free agency. And then it just highest bidder goes. Like, is that the thought process?

I don't know. I think the thought process is if, you know, because they had to dispel rumors that his brother put out a text that said that he was looking to get traded. He didn't want to be there. The Niners are a great team right now. Great, great program. I assume there's not. didn't want to be there. The Niners are a great team right now. Great program. I assume there's not.

It would have to be a financial difference or it would have to be Debo saying, I'll let a couple more deals happen and then we'll see where we're at. Because these deals are jumping quickly. I mean, the market for the wide receivers has grown exponentially over the last two years. I mean, you're talking about this last offseason. The market has grown, I think, like 50% to 75% over what the highest paid wide receivers were before that. Devontae Adams moving, massive. Tyreek Hill, by the way, moving, massive. Now, follow-up, not that Deebo Samuel isn't.

He's one of the most important pieces. He is. Him and George Kittle are literally the most important pieces of that entire puzzle over there for the Niners who have been very successful, so he deserves that. Devontae, Tyreek Hill, in anybody's list, there's top three wide receivers in the NFL. So maybe their market is not, you know,

what teams are thinking about putting on Debo. Not that I'm saying Debo doesn't deserve that, but maybe that is why some of these markets are not getting cleaned up as quick because it's like, well, if they wait out their contract or if they wait just two more months, this whole fucking market might be another $10 million higher because teams know that the salary cap is fugazi.

Yeah. That's what the salary cap is. That's very understandable, and I always get that. But, like, with him and Lamar, and maybe I'm just too simple of a human being, like, money today is better than money tomorrow. And if you don't want to get the deal done, what are we doing? Well, listen, there's a lot of, you know, don't leave your for show money looking for my own money.

You might end up with no money. But then there's a lot of stories of people waiting for the market and then attacking at the right time and getting ridiculously wealthy. So I think there's a lot of, you know, cliches and metaphors that contradict each other completely, not just in this particular world, but in, you know, you're supposed to patience is is a virtue but then you're supposed to live as if you're going to die tomorrow so i mean there is just a lot of life lessons and codes that kind of all go against each other but if lamar waits out another year his it might be worth 300 million guaranteed yeah and it's 250 million dollars enough i mean we talked about this with dac prescott yeah dac prescott allegedly

looked at a piece of paper that had like $100 million guaranteed and said, nah, that ain't enough for me. And I was like, that is awesome. I wish I had the ability to do so. By the way, I think I found it. But at the time, I wish I had the ability to do so. I think it's all business play. It all has to be a business play.

I would assume everything that's going on with some of these guys is all about money reasons. So maybe the Niners just don't view it as high as Debo views it. And that's why Schefter said the contract is what the contract is. And I'm sure part of Debo is like, hey, outside of Cordero Patterson, I was kind of the first guy who was doing this. I might get fucking 12 carries a game, too.

He probably views himself as like, those guys are the best receivers, but he is just, he's a weapon. And he probably does himself as like, I, you know, those guys are the best receivers, but like, you know, there, he is just, he's a weapon. Like, and,

and he probably does like how Shanahan uses him, but you'd have to assume that no matter where he goes now, like the blueprints out there for what you have to do to use him to be successful. Shanahan's run game is always supposed to be like one of the greatest of all time. Right. And Debo just fits it so perfectly.

I would be bummed if Debo wasn't in that offense. Yeah. Yeah. Like that was fun to watch. Well, unless he's an indiebo wasn't in that offense. Yeah, yeah. I agree. That was fun to watch. Well, unless he's in Indy or New England. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, super bummed if he's in New England.

Well, yeah. Super duper bummed. Very likely. Couldn't tell you how bummed I would be if he'd be up there because Bill Belichick, also a pretty intelligent play designer. Yeah, and he's running the offense now. But if he was in there, you would just get upset because they wouldn't give him the ball when they should give him the ball. Oh, you're right, because they're smarter than everybody.

It's like, oh, Debo would be able to do this, but not here now. Obviously, we'll throw it to our second tackle who just declared eligible. No, no, we're not the Seahawks. But, I mean, you talked about those top deals. One of them, and we've talked about the Jacksonville tax bill. Christian Kirk is another guy who got a boatload of money. Debo Samuson, you've got to be fucking kidding me. Yeah, exactly.

And, like, sure, the Jacksonville, like, you'reson, you've got to be fucking kidding me. Exactly. Sure, the Jacksonville, you're getting more money from them. They're offering more because you're coming down to Duval and they don't have the greatest. It's been a rebuild, 10, 15 years. Yeah, exactly. They don't have the greatest reputation. We almost had the rebuild completely finished, by the way. We advanced to championship.

Then we traded away our best corner. Our quarterback now plays for his third team since then. I fired a coach and we had 25% of the complaints from the players to the NFLPA on how our business was operating out of all the complaints. So, I mean, don't worry, though. We'll figure it out whenever you get here. When you get here. We're going to figure it out.

We won't fuck it up. No, no. We got Doug Peterson now. He wears a visor. He's super cool. He's won a Super Bowl before. Yeah. Remember, we had Urban Meyer.

That was a mistake. Who knew? Hey, he's going back to TV, huh? Hell yeah. Man. I can't wait. That's awesome. He was good on TV.

I'm going to say it. He was good on TV. Felt like I learned a lot. But if they're going to be on location. Oh, yeah. I was going to say, he can't lose the studio. Or his house. He's got eyes on the mod, dude.

He's got eyes on the mod. Joining us now is a ESPN pundit i believe a super bowl champion an absolute stud ladies and gentlemen rob ninkovich what's up dude what is uh the definition of pundit well i think you just speak about stuff in punditry punditry sounds great sounds great hopefully hopefully i have great cell phone service i want everything to be crystal clear on everything that i say no no well good punditry here you actually look very good right now the connection's fantastic good suit hey happy 420 happy 420 rockulls in there. You ready to take some souls, what?

Yeah, man. Hey, kind of creepy there with the skulls in there. Is that just kind of your thing? Rock, yeah. I love rock. Big heavy metal guy. Yeah, I know. And you got that car, the amount of cars you have.

You know, he's in there like Tim Allen in the garage. Really? Home improvement. Tool man. Yeah, this guy. Yeah, he actually is, right? Hey, Pat pat guess what though the one thing i don't do is overpay like you did for that hellcat that wasn't it yeah all

right hold on listen can't pay for memories right he can't put a price on memories that thing's probably going up for sale by the way when meekum comes back then you know just in a couple weeks rob let's dive into the nfl stories now. You know Tom Brady very well. You were teammates with him for a long time. He's come back to Tampa Bay. That team's all the way back. You know Bruce Arians is gone. This whole conversation about him maybe owning the Miami Dolphins,

did that take you by surprise? Was that ever something he ever chatted about? Because, for instance, I had overheard conversations like and just assumed Peyton was going to own a team someday. Peyton Manning was going to try to own a team. Was that Tom Brady's goal, do you think? Did you ever hear him chat about that? And how awesome would that be if we had a fucking player owner in the NFL? I'd be so happy as a former player. That would be amazing. But considering the cheapest organization is

probably worth, what, like $4 billion, it would be really hard for a player to purchase maybe just a small piece maybe get a little small piece but i really didn't hear anything about that until that news came out about him wanting to go down there be the quarterback and then have a piece of organization i that was all news to me um when i learned or read about it um recently actually so that would have been sweet but i I guess that was all, you know, put to bed after the whole lawsuit that came out. So I don't think that that's just not going to happen anymore. I wonder if it was how close it was to being real.

Was it just being chatted about? You know, because Sean Payton retired, too, like out of nowhere. Tom retires, Sean Payton retires. And then all of a sudden, everybody's kind of got to find their other side. Sean Payton's golfing an attorney with Frankie Borelli. Congrats to Frankie, by the way. He's in the pro-ams now and then. I mean, let's go, Frankie.

But Sean Payton's golfing, living his best life, probably coming back coaching. Tom Brady comes back just a few weeks later to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It had to be something. I'm excited to kind of see how it all unfolds. When you think about the Patriots, Nink, there's no offense coordinator. All right, Bill Belichick might be calling plays. He was having a blast at that Vanderbilt baseball game. Bill Belichick seemed to be getting ready for that baseball game

and having the time of his life. What do you think about Bill coaching for another 30 years? If he's the offense coordinator, you just assume they're going to be the best offense in the history of the NFL? Let me just settle so we're nice and even here. You think about the Patriots right now. In the past, think about 2009. They didn't have a coordinator in 2009.

So there's been points in the Patriots organization where they're kind of in a limbo. For Christ's sake, yeah. You had such a good answer, too. Did you hear the answer that was coming? Like, let's look back at 2008 when we didn't have an offense coordinator, and he was about to lay something out that we had never heard, which is probably going to ease the Patriots' hands and minds

who don't have any worry at all because it is Bill Belichick. Let's get to a break. We'll get to a break. Okay. Yeah, that year, too. Hell of a draft Bill had when there wasn't any coordinator. Tell him we'll call him back in – this thing's frozen. Let's go right back.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us back with good service, an absolute stud of a football player, ESPN pundit, Super Bowl champion, Rob Nankovic. Yeah, Robby! Hey, good to see you, Rob. How you doing? I'm sorry about the service stuff. It's New York City, so maybe there's just a lot of people here using service up.

Oh, poop probably on the streets. Yeah, rats. Back to what I was saying about the Patriots. You were about you know offensive coordinator not having an offensive coordinator you know if you're if you're a young quarterback going into your second year i can't think of a better position to learn about going against other defenses than having bill belichick coach you on what defenses are trying to do to you what they're trying to trick you into throwing traps and all these different things. So Bill not naming an OC, that's something that he's done in the past. He's had times, 2009 I think back on, we didn't really have an offensive coordinator.

2011, we didn't have a defensive coordinator. So he was basically doing everything. And, yes, I know he's 70 years old um but the dude just loves football that much look at he only has seven candles up there because if there were 70 candles they'd have to call the fire department oh i get it it's a lot i think that just he he loves it and while the only thing that i think could possibly be an issue with this is if they don't have a successful season and they do struggle a little bit, which in their division, the Buffalo Bills look pretty dang good right now. Wagon, Dolphins.

And then you think about that little Tyreek guy going down to Miami. Oh, wagon. He's pretty quick. So if things don't go the right way right way who's gonna have all the attention it's gonna be bill because there he is the oc he's the heads he's the head and he's the dc's everything so it it might be an issue but it might not we'll see um because dan orlovsky your co-pundit over there at espn said that the thing that worried him most going into the season was the fact that Mac Jones in his second year has no stability in his year if there's no offensive coordinator, blah, blah, blah. The way you laid that out there with Mac Jones getting to learn from Bill Belichick, with how smart, allegedly, Mac Jones is, I think it's pretty obvious at this point.

I hate hearing that. This is probably going to be for the better, huh, for Mac Jones as a whole and for the Patriots as a whole. In your eyes, you see this working out as opposed to the negative that could potentially come and all the heat falling on the lead counsel, GM, head coach, D coordinator, and offense coordinator, by the way. That's going to be tough to avoid blame whenever you've got all that. Do you feel like it's going to work out, though?

You have high hopes in it working? Well, I think of all the players that could have been drafted as a quarterback to go into new england mac jones is the perfect fit considering he was with saban for five years he was with billio he was with guys that were coaching with the Patriots, guys that have experience with Bill Belichick in his style of coaching. So I bet you Bill and Mac, they seem to have that kind of odd type of personality where they would just like to break down film and talk about football. So Ernie Adams is retired. Bill Belichick goes and gets Mac Jones. Come on in.

Sit down with me. Let's be buddies and talk football. They might just sit down and talk shop on football for 24 hours a day, seven days a week for the next, I don't know, 10 years, whatever. But Bill loves that. And I think Mac Jones, the way his – even his demeanor when he was drafted and he's walking up, you know, he's got his weird walk up to the stage because he just wants to get it going. Like, it's a perfect fit for Bill Belichick and Mac.

I mean, I'm telling you, that two type of, like, mentality, the way that they are from what I hear, he's all business. And that's what Bill is, all business. Man, I cannot believe the NFL fucked up and let Mac Jones just fall right to him. Fool! We all saw it happen. We literally were watching it live happen in Draft Spectacular. Alright, somebody's going to trade up to eight here.

Somebody's going to trade up to eight and get Mac Jones, of course. Oh, somebody's going to go to, oh, they did trade up for a quarterback. Oh, Justin Fields. Fields is going, okay. So Mac Jones is still potentially falling right into the evil empire. And then all of a sudden you get the live shot of Bill Belichick looking around the room.

Well, fuck, we've got to take him. I mean, we have to. We've got Tom Brady 2.0 here. Robert, you like it? Yeah. Josh, you like it? Yeah. Final?

Matt Patricia, you like it? Yeah. All right, let's fucking send it. Not a quarterback for fucking 10 years. We all watched it happen. We all watched it happen. We literally watched it happen right in front of our eyes. Everybody hates New England Patriots success. Every other team is like, ah, the New England Patriots can't do it again.

20 years of greatness. Let's get them the fuck out of the way. And then we watched it live happen. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And five to 10 years from now, what Mack does compared to the quarterbacks that won before him is going to be talked about how Bill Belichick, this super genius, didn't even have to trade or anything. He just sat there.

And Mack Jones fell to him. He was supposed to go three. Mack was supposed to go three overall. For a while. He literally changed that morning. Go ahead, Connor, your question for Nick. Yeah, I mean, everything you're saying is making sense. And it doesn't surprise me that Dan Orlovsky's backup quarterback brain

couldn't handle not having an offensive coordinator. But you're obviously a defensive guy. When you look at the Patriots defensively, they lose J.C. Jackson. Are you expecting them to take a corner right away in the first round or probably trade back and grab a bunch of QBs who can play different positions? Not knowing Bill and knowing how they do things, they'll, like, draft a punter or something. It's just that's what it does.

Jake Bailey. I do believe that they have some young pieces there that really haven't played a lot. There's young players on the roster right now that are going to have an opportunity to play. I was just talking to Drod Mayo yesterday. He's pretty confident that what they have on their roster is going to surprise a lot of people. So they're going to go through this offseason, and I'm sure during the draft they're going to pick best available.

Usually they have the board on who's left and who's gone, and they just have their rankings on best available talent based on their evaluations. And, yes, there might be a need i personally think they should try and go get a big time tackle because you know what do young quarterbacks need for a long time well they need a lot of protection they need somebody to protect their to protect their blind side so you know a guard or a tackle somebody in the offensive line that can kind of grow up with mac jones and and protect them i think is a good, you know, it's a good thing. And then, you know, Malcolm Butler comes back. I know he was off last year and didn't play, but he seems like a guy that's going to be very motivated. And if you

can get the most out of Butler, Malcolm, that is, they're going to be really good defensively in the corner position. I think they have a lot be really good defensively in the corner position. I think they have a lot of talent. You bring back McCourty. He's a guy that's going to be your leader on defense. This stinks. They're going to be good so far. Don't worry about it. This stinks, dude.

Pundit, definition. You are, by the way, an expert in a particular subject or field who is frequently called on to give opinions about it to the public. Wow. You're a pundit.'s boom that is literally a funny story about dan or laski alaski though real quick um so we're we're on last week and he somehow he was we were talking about uh russell wilson and i had a picture of myself sacking russell wilson so he said something you know he's trying to be smart and uh so you know said something. He's trying to be smart. And said something. And I just came back with, yeah, remember that time you had to play for the 0-11 Colts?

And I sacked you. It was in the red zone. And he came back with, well, I threw for 340 yards. And then I responded with, yeah, but you still lost. You still lost. I was on that team, too. So why are you doing this again? I'm sorry. Were you on that team, Pat?

Oh, man. Way to go. Oh, it must have been fun. How fun was that game? Oh, it was incredible. A bunch of sacks. Oh, yeah, backed up. I forgot.

I mean, you could say the Super Bowl was played in Lucas Oil later that year. Yeah, but I lost. Probably had to punt. I mean, you could say the Super Bowl was played in Lucas Oil later that year. Yeah, but I lost. Boom! Exactly. Boom! You lost in the Super Bowl, you fucking loser. Dude.

Yeah, that year. Not that I've never done that. That AFC championship ring, stupid. Throw it away. Man, it's so good, though. I got it at the house up in a Hall of Fame thing. I have no idea where that is. I couldn't even tell you where it is.

It's tough. Can never wear it. It's awesome. We got any more tough questions, or what do we got? Where's Baker Mayfield going? You think he's going to the Panthers? No, because then they would have way too much money invested in two quarterbacks that they have question marks with.

So if you think about it, Baker has a what? Cap hit of 19 million. He has 18 and a half or 19. Whatever it is. Yeah, it was the 26th ranked quarterback at third down passing the last two years. That ain't good. So shoulder left shoulder. It's not as throwing shoulder.

Oh, you don't get it. You've never – have you ever thrown a football? What are you pointing with that thing? What are you pointing with that thing? It's perfectly fine. You tape the shoulder up. Put a brace on. You're fine.

It's fine. Oh, they did. He said it was hurt. You're saying no, though, huh? You don't think he's going there? What, you think he's playing for the Browns? I guess Stefanski was just asked about it. I don't know if Stefanski's doing a press conference and uh he said how do you how are

you guys going to handle Baker Mayfield with him feeling disrespected and uh he said I'm not going to dive into that that's a very unique situation how do you think how do you think it like unfolds here what do you think honestly I I honestly don't think the Browns care anymore I think they've got their guy so they're just either if if they can't find a trading person or trading partner that's willing to pay the difference, they're not going to go and get a high pick or somebody's not going to take that salary on. So we'll see if another team will pay the money towards it or the Browns will pay off a little bit of that. But honestly, I think the best thing for baker might be to take a

year as a in a role that like he can sit behind a starter rehab his shoulder so he has no excuses get the shoulder right and then have another opportunity because if he does go somewhere else say he goes to seattle and he's the guy right and it looks just like it did the last couple years well what it would what does his future have in store for him if he doesn't go out and ball so you know I think where he goes is going to be vital for if he can stay in the league a long time and make a name like as far as not just being the number one overall pick because if you think about it if he was a third or a fifth round pick we wouldn't even be talking about him he was the number one overall pick, because if you think about it, if he was a third or a fifth round pick, we wouldn't even be talking about him. He was the number one overall pick.

That's why he's had so many opportunities. It's plain and simple. Money, money, top. He took the bronze in the playoffs for the first time in a long time. He was the quarterback for the team that finally started winning in Cleveland. Now, everything around the quarterback position seemed to get better in Cleveland as well, which is what Andrew Barry is probably thinking to himself. Like, yeah, well, we also built a hell of a roster here and a good team. But that should be noted, right?

Do you think it's as easy as the guy to be the starter and then the next year he's just the backup in the locker room in Cleveland over there? Because obviously the Odell Beckham senior stuff, the Jarvis stuff, there's a lot of stuff that maybe he didn't have the locker room. I don't know. Do you think it would be awkward though? Him being started on him backup in the same locker room? No, I mean, no, he's not going to stay with the Browns. There ain't no way. So you're just going to go somewhere else. Oh, you're saying he's going to be a backup somewhere else. Yeah. So he should maybe look for another place where there's a quarterback there, maybe Tampa where, I mean, that's not going going to happen but if you were somewhere where you could go behind tom brady or go behind a starting quarterback and just kind of green

indianapolis he goes somewhere and has the yeah indianapolis go to indianapolis you're behind a veteran quarterback who you can kind of get underneath and listen and watch and just observe how we how they do things and then you have your opportunity as they move on or retire or do whatever and then you go out and ball okay then that's great then your then your career has resurrected as a as opposed to going to another place where you are supposed to be the guy that takes them back to their winning ways or resurrects their whole organization back to – you think about the Cleveland Browns.

If they thought Baker could get them where they needed to be, they wouldn't have just gone out and paid another guy more money than anyone else in history. Yeah, we get it, Nick. I think Baker – I think Baker, you know, it's tough and kind of a shitty situation for him to be in. Definitely shitty. But, I mean, he's made a lot of money he was number one overall pick now he has to make sure that the next place he goes he has an opportunity to play well because if he doesn't then what are we going

to be saying the browns are going to have to pay a lot of that uh contract no matter where he goes and i want i think the browns probably know that that's why they're just kind of holding off wait and see who's most desperate in the end go ahead tone mr ninko um do you think in this day of day and age of uh nfl football that a team can win with just good coaching and good defense and maybe potentially a good running game um do you think that's still possible in this in this day and age no it's hard it's that's like you have to be able to throw the football on third down and if you can't convert third downs third and tens third and 12 if you don't have a guy that can drop back and throw the ball accurately over the all over

the field you're going to be in trouble and because the problem the problem that is if you are a running team and you have the defense and you have all that stuff but you don't have the quarterback position you're going to come up against a team at some point you hit the playoffs where it's going to be a shootout and yeah your defense can be great all year but there's going to be a moment where you go up against a josh allen or a patrick mahomes or a tom brady where you have to throw the football and you have to complete longer down in distances. And I really think that now we're seeing the whole NFL mindset has turned into this seven-on-seven spread offenses,

get the ball out of the quarterback's hand, catch and run. The running game, there's a reason why they're a fullback position at the Dinosaur now. There's a reason why they're fullback position at the dinosaur. Now, you know, there isn't, there isn't many teams with a fullback. It's because they're going away from that whole old school run,

run the football mentality. And then you look at the Browns, for example, they were trying to be a run first team that had good defense that set up the play action pass. And that's what Baker was able to do. You know, if you have a linebacking core that's running up into the line of scrimmage because they're

running the football with dudes that are really good at running back, and then, okay, there's your 15 to 25-yard over route. Guess what? When you get down and you can't run the football anymore, you're in trouble. I think that old mentality of run the football, that's that's

that's that's old man i think it's tough nowadays hey we appreciate you stopping by nico you're the best what are you on today on espn uh so i was just with uh your old buddy greenberg there he's working it's good to see him on tv greeny yeah so i'm I was just with JJ. You saw JJ. I challenged him to a game of horse. Smart. He probably won't play me because he's afraid. JJ Redick. Yeah, but if he says yes to you, then he has to

say yes to everybody that challenges him. I get some internet students. So if he loses, I got nothing. He beats me. Oh, yeah. Best shooter of all time in college history beat me know beat me in horse yeah i had some internet students challenge me to a punt passing kick and i didn't even acknowledge it because it's like hey pal just shut the fuck up you know that's probably how jj feels about you like hey listen yeah just shut up just shut up all right you need to just stop whatever you're talking about right there.

But I'll take it as a win, though, if I were you. I'll take it as a win. Perfect. Yeah. So thanks for having me on. Congrats on all the success. Congrats on the backflipping and all the stuff that you do in wrestling. I love it.

I love it. Thank you. The backflip to the feet was very impressive. The backflip to the feet was very impressive. The backflip to the feet was very impressive. One of the most impressive feats I've seen in a long time. Thank you. Congrats on the show. Big fan.

Settle the feet in your driving. I saw some of your film on your driving and your golf technique. Let's just relax a little bit, okay? Let's relax. Yeah, the feet. He literally, as soon as I posted on story, I get a DM from Nick. Can we settle the feet? I'm going to try to make it happen.

I'm going to try to make it. It's a work in progress. I got, what, 10 weeks to get there. Yeah, plenty of time. Before it's all home. But I appreciate the hell out of you. Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, ESPN pundit, Rob Ninkovic. Thank you, Ninko.

We have some breaking news out of the NFL. This is huge. Love that conversation with Ninko. We have some breaking news out of the NFL. This is huge. Love that conversation with Ninko. But let's move on. Jeff Darlington is reporting breaking news. He just spoke to the wide receiver, Debo Samuel. And he told Jeff Darlington that Debo has asked the Niners to trade him. He did not want to discuss the specific reasons behind his request,

but he has indeed let the 49ers know his desire to leave the organization. More to come, says Jeff Darlington, one of the most talented football players on earth, once out of his home team, the same team that has been to the MC Championship numerous times, a very successful team. A massive part of their offense is now requesting and desiring to leave the program.

Ian Rappaport has an update. The trade request came in more than a week ago and the 49ers have been aware of Debo's feelings for a while. This is why there have been no talks. This all follows Schefter getting on ESPN and saying that the Niners would pay Debo if Debo would just come in and negotiate with them. We thought it was a Lamar Jackson

Baltimore Ravens situation where Lamar just said, it ain't time to do the contract yet. I'll do it whenever I want to do the contract, says Harbaugh. Now we're hearing Debo Samuel rolling around Miami down there, liking some tweets, some other stuff happening, has told the 49ers, get me out of here. Come on to the Colts, Debo.

I wonder what it was. Was it a money thing? Was it a respect issue? He was obviously a large part of the offense, so it couldn't have been a part of the ball, I don't think. You would assume that's not the case. What is it about Debo and the Niners

that isn't working? Everybody from the outside looking in has to ask. Ian Rapport, the 49ers have been looking to make offers for a long-term deal with wide receiver Debo Samuel, but he's been unwilling to engage.

This is why. Unclear where this goes from. Is he saying this is why he requested a trade? I don't know, but Samuel wanting out is the latest in big name wide receiver. Hey, what is the this is why? 49ers have been looking to make offers for a long-term deal with wide receiver Debo Samuel, but he's been unwilling to engage. This is why.

Because he wants to be traded. So he's told them he has no interest in signing a long-term deal with them. Oh, this is why. Because he wants to be traded. That's why he hasn't been interested in negotiating with them. Yeah, I guess. But that's not the why we want to know, Ian, is why the fuck does he want out of.

True. Hey, Ian, come on. Find out why he doesn't want to make things happen with the Niners. Is it because he doesn't want to be in Santa Clara anymore? Maybe. Is he done with the taxes? Maybe.

They're a successful team. It seems like their locker room has a good time. Remember, we've seen Shanahan drunk thrown from one rooftop to another rooftop on the beach. We love George Kittle. Fucking love George Kittle. Here's another follow-up. Why does Deebo Samuel not want to be a Niner?

Money is not at the roof of the issues for Debo Samuel. Otherwise, that could be fixed with a big offer. But there are also issues with how he's used. Oh, wow. Interesting. Oh. Whoa. What's going on?

Happy 420. Yeah. I was literally just saying that Debo's half of the offense and he's got to be pumped about everything. And now there's issues with how he's being used. This could all be coming from the Niners too. Let's not let this distract us. But we would like to know, as people that have to talk about this every single day now

until something happens, why Debo does not want to continue his relationship with the Niners. So if this is the case, then he is gone. Sounds like it. He'll be maybe traded by draft night or on draft night. What's up? He's traded by the end of this show. Yeah, that'd be great.

Before then. But the Niners, remember, the big thing on the Niners is they move at their own pace. Remember? Yeah. Juszczyk got paid when they wanted to pay him. Took some time. George Kittle got paid when they wanted to pay him. And everybody time. George Kittle got paid when they wanted to pay him. And everybody just assumed

that Deebo Samuel, actually the reports were that the Deebo Samuel money would come when the Niners wanted it to come. That's what they, hey, well,

the Niners MO is they'll pay whenever they want to pay. Yeah. That's what they do. Maybe that's what pissed off Deebo. Deebo's like, okay, you want to pay

when you want to pay? How about this? I don't want to play when you want to pay. Fuck off. Yeah. Is that what happened? Is Debo, was there a private conversation about, hey, the reason why we didn't win is because our star players didn't do enough

because him and Kittle were basically the only two that were doing anything for him last year, and maybe they took the blame? I have no idea. Like, why? It doesn't make much sense to me. From the outside, i'm excited to learn more no none of it makes sense but i do there was already a team that already has a coach a head coach who was on that niners coaching staff who was already willing to pay a wide receiver

and give up multiple first round picks uh in the new york jets that could be a potential what if the jets land debo samuel that'd be a shame for all of us because you never see him on TV again. Yeah. I mean, they might not have anything to do with each other, but this is not bode well for Trey Lance. If Trey Lance was unbelievable at football, do you think Debo would want to leave that team? Maybe he loved Jimmy G.

Tyreek Hill, Devontae. Yeah, but they didn't want to pay Tyreek that much money after the Devontae deal. Yeah, but I'm saying Tyreek Hill was willing to leave Patrick Holmes. You know, like, I don't think one ties into the other. But, interesting take. Yeah. You never know. We're back for hour two on the other side of this 10-minute break on SiriusXM.

I'm Chad LaLite. My dog's horse right here. We'll see you with more news. Got it, I think. I don't know. Nailed it. You did. I don't know.

Felt like the crack of the bat sounded like it was on the screws you can't see the clock though it's a delay it's a delay game clock i can feel the clock zero down zero it's baltimore ravens detroit lions thing yeah yeah that whole thing that was definitely called properly no doubt about it no doubt about it change the rule debo snow get debo yeah that's nuts. Come to Indy, dude. I mean, it's got to be the... Where's Debo at? Debo in this one right here? Yep. Come to Indy. You're going to love it.

Listen, you're going to love it. It's windy every day of the year. Yep. Okay, so that doesn't affect you, though. It's actually a nice breeze when you walk around. Matt Ryan, oh my God, you're slant. Perfect. We got an offensive line. You want to continue to run? You don't want to run.

Fuck it. We don't want to do anything. Debo, come on. To Indianapolis. Now, this would require a lot of money and a move from Chris Ballard, who has already done deals with the Niners for a first-round pick. And we don't have a first-round pick this year because Carson Wentz played through so many injuries.

Yeah. He had a total amount of plays played, would take a second-round draft pick into a first-round draft pick, and that guy with two sprained ankles, broken ribs, four shoulder surgeries, broken foot, five hand injuries, played fucking 95% of the snaps. Can't knock him for that, but it has become quite a pain in the ass in the entire negotiating thing. But still got Matt Ryan.

D-Bot, you're going to love being here. Come on over to the Indianapolis Colts. We need weapons like nobody else. Yeah, but if anything, you should probably, Debo, you're going to love being here Come on over to the Indianapolis Colts We need weapons like nobody else Yeah, but if anything, you should probably Trade with the team who gave you the quarterback That took you to a Super Bowl And another NFC Championship And that team, the Patriots

Happened to trade that quarterback Pretty cheap, they didn't ask for much, just a second round pick So we'll take Debo, and you know what, we'll give you a first And how about Nikhil Harry Does he fancy you? I think he does. Would you take a wide receiver right back? Now you're trying to get rid of him. Let's get a trade.

Hey! Nikhil Harry's not at camp. He's not at the volunteer work. He's not going to New England. It makes you never know. This reeks of Bill Belichick. Why would he go to New England? Why would he go to New England?

He's got a young quarterback that loves football, and he's all business. He's coming to the fucking Colts. I don't know. Sirianni and the Eagles are going to be all over this. He can't wait to get his mitts on Debo and game plan. Debo, don't go to Philly. He ain't training. They're not training in the conference.

They got mask mandates in Philly. That's right. Don't go there. He was so happy carrying out the boom box for the playoff games and stuff like that. It seemed like he loved his teammates. Can't wait to fucking watch him walk onto Lambeau at the blue box. No, no. He just played in one degree there.

You think he wants to go back? He loved it, he said. He's not going back to fucking Green Bay. He said he loved it. He's in Miami right now. Yeah, he lost his boy McDaniel. This is what it's all about. Oh, no.

He is down in Miami. Miami's been making a lot of moves. You ain't got enough money. Yeah, and they pay him $25 a year too And they can make that happen And the salary cap is completely fake Chiefs just plays Tyra Coo He needs to get to the Colts

Can we find out why he doesn't want to be a Niner? We'll talk about that in hour two We'll call him Rap Yeah, I'll call him right now actually You have to pull the trigger at some point, Ballard. Like, this is it, dude. The run game with him and two titles this decade. Yeah, but the problem is I don't have that first.

The issue with all of this is I gave that whole speech about how, you know, maybe your team will act differently than they have in the past because of everything. Ballard has actually traded first rounders before but there is not a single part of my body that makes me believe that he's even going to pick up the phone on debo samuel yeah because he's telling chris about or he's telling jim chris bowers telling jim mercy we're gonna have to pay him 90 million dollars yeah you won't pay him 90 million dollars you want more guitars that's what I thought. I'm not even calling. We brought Matt Ryan in here, paying him.

We have paid $150 million in quarterbacks over the last five years. Yeah. Absurd. So they spend money. Like, Ballard spends money. He trades picks. He's traded two firsts in his entire life. Everybody talks about how much he loves.

He traded two firsts. One for Carson. One for DeForest Buckner. He spends money. He pays fucking everybody, it seems like. But there isn't even a single ounce of blood in my body that thinks Chris Ballard's on the phone right now trying to get Debo. Probably the Bills. Bills, maybe. Jets make too much sense because if they trade that first,

they can just pick one of the wide receivers in the top. I'm only saying the Bills because Bean says he snoops around. If he senses there's a little bit of an issue, he'll go, hey, what's going on? Are you okay? What do you want? You guys got it right. That's how he got Stephon Diggs, kept Stephon Diggs around. It does stink, though, because the Packers aren't going to do anything.

They definitely won't pay him. But I would like to amend what I said to open the show with the whole Tyler Lockett thing. Hey, maybe you send fucking Jordan Love to San Francisco. Let Trey Lance learn under his two legs. Oh, Trey Lance and Jordan Love. Yeah, boom. Okay. We'll figure it out.

We'll sweeten it up. Maybe you do throw in one of those first-round picks for Tebow. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. Could you imagine having a guy named Debo on your team? That'd be so sweet. I can see Bill.

What happened with the Niners? He doesn't like the way he's being used? Yeah. But that feels like that is the way he's being used? Yeah. But that feels like that is more of a narrative. He doesn't like being run about? To your point with teams doing like they're not going to change. Notice I have not even entertained the thought of him ever coming to Steelers. You guys are plus 850 to win AFC North.

Yeah. That's pretty good. That's why it feels like Bill, this is something he would do. This is wild to me, by the way. Mike Tomlin coaches this team. Plus 850. Never had a losing season. Well, they got the Super Bowl team at plus 220.

They were plus 1300 last year. Well, what I'm saying is these are banana odds, bananas odds. But that's because what was coming to our minds while we were talking to Ninko earlier, Deshaun Watson, obviously off the field. There's a lot of conversation. If he plays anything like he can play on the field, if he's 80% of what he was. Oh, boy.

There are ones he. Oh, boy. That's why Andrew Barry's smiling in that press conference next time. We just took 45 minutes of very hard questions, but let's fucking go. Hey, when you're throwing the ball, we know what's going to happen. See you week one. They got that play action.

Somehow the Browns will get them. The Browns will get Debo something. I sure hope not. There's so many teams he would fit perfectly. Well, Titans. Cowboys. About 31 of them. Yeah, that's why it feels like they'll just trade him to the AFC.

That's why I'm only thinking AFC teams. You can be somebody who is lucky enough to be friends with the man that is about to join us. He is a two-time, two-time Emmy-nominated host of Good Morning Football. He's an insider for Fox. But ladies and gentlemen, he's friend of the show. And today is his birthday. Happy birthday, Peter Schrager! Yay!

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Thought that little bit of the combine was like going to come back to haunt me. I got to be honest. I kind of like it. I'm glad I have that footage, and I hope that they run that every day on Good Morning Football. Well, they should, certainly when it's your birthday. At the end, you get a piece of thing in your mouth. Right in the face. And we cut that off before we got to that,

but that's because it's your birthday. Positive vibes. That's the only bad part of the video. Other than that, you look fantastic. Happy birthday. Hope you enjoy. Congrats on another trip around the sun. Happy birthday.

Feeling blessed. Yeah. Yesterday, CFO. Happy birthday. Hope you enjoy. Congrats on another trip around the sun. Happy birthday. Feeling blessed. Yeah. Yesterday, CFO Phil's birthday. Today, Shreg's birthday. 420 being your birthday had to be pretty awesome most of your life, yeah? Pretty good. I was in college in Atlanta in the early 2000s. When I got there from Jersey, I didn't have any idea what 420 was,

and I quickly learned on my birthday that everyone celebrates when it's my birthday. Yes. We're happy for you. We're pumped for you. Let's move along. Big news coming out of a camp that you know a lot about, the San Francisco 49ers. Allegedly, one week ago, Debo Samuel had requested a trade from the San Francisco 49ers. Then there's conflicting reports coming out from numerous different insiders

that the San Francisco 49ers would pay Debo Samuel right now, whatever the contract is. They're alluding to like it's already been set in stone. Then there's reports coming out from Ian Rappaport that says, well, Debo Samuel, it's not about the money. It's about the usage. What is going on? How did we get here?

We thought everything was hunky-dory. He's coming out with the boom box before the games he's absolutely killing it he's like 50 of their offense how did we get here shrags from what you know about the entire situation now that he's asking for a trade officially this has been brewing i actually i started hearing about this uh back at the super bowl even before the combine that hey this is gonna be the off season where where debo's gonna want to get paid. And a lot of people are coming to me and say, well, how do you pay Debo Samuel?

Because he's not only a wide receiver, but he's a running back. And then do you hold that against him and say, well, yeah, but that means he's a running back and a wide receiver. And his usage rate is so high that where do you put him on the market? There's really no comp. Truth of the matter is this, and I've said it on your show before, this is an organization that wants to take care of their guys, but they also waited on paying Fred Warner. They waited on paying George Kittle. They waited on paying Trent Williams. Going back to Kittle, it got out that the offer they made for Kittle

back in February of the year they eventually paid him in August, it was referred to around the league as the the Valentine's day massacre, like what they were trying to get Kittle to sign to. So this is going to be a process with the 49ers. They have as good a front office, starting with John Lynch, of course,

but the guys who control the money, a lot of that stuff, like Parag Marate is, is their salary cap expert. He also deals with a lot of negotiations. Like they foresee these things, not day to day, but like 18 months out six months out and i think debo some of this stuff wants to push the timeline and he might be able to he might be that valuable player where they have to kind of

get along and do this and if not you get stuff like a trade request we'll see where that goes we got eight days before the draft but i'll tell you there there will be multiple teams who at least make the call to san francisco to say hey is debo really on the block that's right ballard good call way to go shregs what what really could be the issue though i know you said you're going back to super bowl you knew he wanted to get paid and now we're hearing reports that the niners are willing to pay him and make him one of almost the highest paid receiver in the nfl possibly but he's not coming in like what's the's the deal? Is it just too far gone? No, I don't think so.

Look, I think there's a lot of the stuff that you get now, eight days out of the draft, is to say, hey, let's push the envelope. We had a Kyler Murray Instagram post that came out the Monday of the combine saying my client demands to be paid now. He hasn't been paid yet. And with the trade demand, that's like you line in the sand saying I want out I think all roads can be fixed and all bridges can be mended but when you make that trade demand you go specifically to in this case it's been Schefter and Rappaport but today

Jeff Darlington said I spoke to Debo directly we had Debo's brother posting things yesterday like there's a lot of noise when there's a lot of noise there seems to be an unhappy party and that seems to be where Debo's at. I think it could all be rectified if the dollar signs are right. That's the reading that I get, that this isn't simply – I don't like being used as a running back. I think Debo knows that his value right now is pretty high because of the way they use him.

I would add one thing. This is the inside baseball stuff to it. His agent's a very good agent, a guy named Torrey Dandy. Torrey's been doing this stuff for a long time. Torrey also represents Denzel Ward, who just got paid $100 million last week. But he also represents DK Metcalf and A.J. Brown, who are in similar boats going into that contract year where they're all second-round picks saying,

hey, I want to get paid. Same agent controlling all of them. Puppet string's being done here, but hey, it could all work out for his clients. Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting thing because you talked about how there isn't a market because of how good of a running back he is and the wide receiver thing, and that's coming out of how he's being used. Was that ever an issue for Debo before he was told that he wouldn't be getting a little extra money for his running back services? And then once he was told, no wouldn't be getting a little extra money for his running

back services and then once he was told no we're just going to pay you for your wide receiver services he then came out alongside Torrey Danby and said uh actually if you're not going to pay us for it then we're not running back anymore is that how that happened or is it actually like he's pissed off about the amount of touches he's getting a running back because he has become a one-of-one type player alongside Cordero Patterson. But the NFC, the Niners have been running through the NFC, and he's been a part of it. Is that why?

Because he's looking to shake up the entire market because he is Debo Samuel and everybody. Devontae Adams, great wide receiver, incredible wide receiver, gets the ball out of the backfield, never. Tyreek Hill does get the ball handed off to him every once in a while, but he's not considered a running back. It's always out there. Debo literally is high-ended, both of them.

So if you're just going to pay him for the highest in the market of what the top wide receivers are paying, then he probably views well, you're not paying me at all for this other half of the game that I am. And you can see why he'd get pissed off, right? I guess. Or you say what other offensive coordinator and team is featuring you this way

that you're getting the rock and we're getting the best use out of you and we're going to make sure that we can maximize your talents. I don't know if anyone would say Debo Samuel is the route runner that Cooper Cupp or Devontae Adams is. But the way the 49ers used him – and this is also an interesting wrinkle here. The way that Mike McDaniel, who's now the head coach of the Dolphins, helped draw up some of those run plays for him really maximized not only what Debo did, but he got the most out of that 49ers offense too. It was a mutually beneficial offense scheme for both of them. carries it was such a such a revelation that he could do with the ball in his hands that i remember going to the combine in 2020 before the pandemic after debo's first year going to

the combine or last year whatever it was after that first season and everyone at the combine i guess it was 2020 yes february 2020 all the years everyone's saying like hey the next it's finding you know finding nemo it's finding debo everyone's looking for the de, the next it's finding, you know, finding Nemo, it's finding Debo. Everyone's looking for the Debo. And that means the guy who can run the ball. So this wasn't a surprise that like, this is what their offensive game plan was.

He missed a lot of time in 2020 because of the injury. And then 2021 became this, you know, revelation as far as what he does. He is truly a unicorn. So I don't know what the market price is for that. If he was to be a pure free agent. I do know there's probably a team or two that would be willing to give him a first-round pick in this draft for Debo Samuel. Well, we don't have one of those.

That's not us, it sounds like. Ian Rappaport basically listed off all the teams that have more than one first-round draft pick. This upcoming draft has teams that are potentially looking into him. Who do you think is a potential leader in that thing? Look, I'd be curious about the Jets, and there's a natural connection because of Mike LaFleur and Robert Sala. And we know that the Jets were very active

in the Tyree Kill engagement. They don't only have the fourth pick. They have the 10th pick. They also have the 34th pick. So if the Jets were to offer the Niners, I don't know, the 10th, I think the Niners have to long and consider that. If the Jets can offer them the 34th, they have to consider that.

It's a really interesting team because of the connections to the 49ers, both on the offensive and defensive side. Another team that I think would be someone that I would consider is the Saints, who have the 16th and the 19th pick. Those are two very good picks. I don't know if you package those or you offer one of those, but gosh, it'd be an interesting thing to see him with Michael Thomas on one end and him on the other, as far as powerful wide receivers go. And then you can go right down the list. I think the Niners were not expecting to have

these conversations as recent as, you know, the combine, but here we are. And if he's demanding a trade, phones will be ringing. It's an interesting thing because of debo edward or just tweeted out and there's a lot of debo information hitting the internet right now obviously but edward or just tweeted out that from espn stats info shout out uh hembo and a wide receiver debo samuel counted for 28 percent of the 49ers scrimmage yards in 2021 the fourth highest rate in the NFL after Jonathan Taylor, Najee Harris, and Cooper Cup, right? So that is probably being a part of the entire thing, and that is also him being a part of the run game with 60 rushes last season.

I would assume, with the way you're talking about old Darby, the CAA agent who's repping them all, I'd assume that he's a— Torrey Damby. Torrey Damby, yeah, there it is tony darby tory dandy that's 420 i apologize pal but great name great business whatever you do i hope you make everybody all the money in the world it sounds like that's what you're doing but you could see how they would want to be paid for that because the amount of hits and body that he's going to take as a running

back i'll be intrigued to see what the niners want to do then there's obviously and paid now like here's why because devo came in his prime physical shape in 2021 and delivered on every expectation like i'm not saying he won't be as good next year but we don't know what trey lance is going to be we don't know what that offense looks like without mcdougall could that be part of his regs i don't know i just feel like this is like i don't know if his value is ever going to be greater than at this moment right now in time and you know you could say well watch devo samuel is going to tear it up again next year and he's going to even be better next year and they're going to rely on him more but i do know this on a hand you could fit four players maybe five that were as good as devo samuel in the nfl in 2021 i don't know if that's the case in 2022 with all the changes to the 49ers offense.

Well, I think the other three that I just mentioned, they're probably the top four there. And then you add, I mean, Devontae and Tyreek Hill getting what they got. That has to reset the entire wide receiver market. Debo sees that, sees what Christian Kirk made. And then he also sees- Stephon Diggs. Stephon Diggs get broken off.

Then he also sees like some running back numbers. He's like, oh, I'm better running back than that motherfucker. And that dude right there. And that dude right there. So this is what we're thinking. That'll be interesting to see how the Niners kind of, you know, because you're going to have to sweeten the pot somehow if they want to make that deal. Because, you know, it's being reported now by Spotrek

and everybody else that understands the name of the game in the NFL. With the new CBA, Debo can't hold out. Like, he has to show up like if they he has to show up like he has to show up that's a new thing like hold in is what everybody's calling it because they have to go because it a year can get uh lost from being accrued and that fucks up the entire contract and the fines are so heavy in the new CBA they wanted to get rid of holdouts they hold all they can in the new CBA just for your listeners and your viewers it's like the new CBA they used to do this deal where you hold out we'll give you a deal under the table, we'll pay you that money back.

The new CBA prohibits it. Like if you hold out and you're fined X amount of dollars, like it is against league rules now for the team to under the table say, all right, look, we'll pay you back tenfold. We'll give you that money. Don't worry about it. You missed a couple of days of training camp. We got you. We're all good. They can't anymore.

It's fascinating because like Baker Mayfield says, I want to be traded. And the Browns go, nah, nah, nah. And there's nothing Baker can do. There's literally nothing Baker can do. There's nothing he can do. Debo Samuel. Hey, I want to be traded. And the Niners could, we're not saying they're going to say that. We don't think it's great for business, especially in the future, if you plan on working with the person, but they could basically say, nah, and there's nothing anybody can do about it. But Debo can continue to put the pressure on, especially in the future if you plan on working with the person but they could basically say nah and there's nothing anybody can do about it but Debo can continue to put the pressure on which I assume is what he will do there's a lot if he wants to come to Indianapolis we would love

it I mean we don't have a first round pick for you know because Carson Wentz was an Ironman and played through a couple injuries that he probably shouldn't have played through we don't have a first round pick but Debo Samuel would be beloved in a lot of different places and this is very different than what it used to be if somebody comes out and says they want to be traded back in the day prima donna asshole don't want him on our team nowadays he wants traded get him

on our team get him in Indianapolis it is vastly different than what it used to be I think it's because it's your birthday I think it's because it's your birthday it's my birthday I get a lot of texts from old school nfl guys who are like i mean we're he's like we're the freaking nba now these players and the other part of me is like good let's go i mean the nfl makes a lot of money these teams make a lot of money the players have a voice and let's see i mean let's put ourselves

out there i mean for debo sam to put out there what he's doing simultaneously he's challenging the 49ers but he's also putting himself in the crosshairs with some 49ers fans, which is something that players, you go on that limb. Like Cooper Cupp yesterday showed up to voluntary workouts. He's like, here I am. I'm here. And it's like, oh, everyone's warm and cuddly. Debo's doing the opposite.

He's like, no, I want to get paid. And, you know, 49ers fans who have been wearing his jersey and love him and all this stuff, you run the risk of those guys, you know, being turned off to them. And that's just what this requires. You have to have the stomach for it. And a lot of these guys don't, and some of these guys do. Well, as soon as you score a touchdown again, everybody's back.

Follow-up. This offseason's been the best of all time, by far. So you tell those old NFL heads that don't have to run a daily show to scram. Yeah. This has been awesome. Shut up. Let's keep it going now. I'm happy I don't have to build a team. I'm happy I don't have to run a team show, just scram. Yeah. Okay. This has been awesome. Shut up. Let's keep it going now. I'm happy I don't have to build a team.

I'm happy I don't have to run a team. I'm happy, that whole thing. But to cover it, it's been fantastic. And we are just eight days away, Shregs, from the draft spectacular. From last year, magic happening. Two years ago, magic happening. The draft day has become a, oh, shit, something's going to happen day in the most recent future, in the most recent history, I mean.

Now you've put out your second mock. What do you know? How good do you feel about it? And this will be the last mock you put out as a whole before next week, right? Yeah, I'll put one out the day before just for accuracy's sake. Let me cover this. I went Trayvon Walker one, and that's not because I know that the Jaguars are taking Trayvon Walker one. It's because everyone around the league is telling me if it was Aiden Hutchinson, we'd probably know by now.

Someone in that building would be like, yeah, it's the media pick. It's the Hutchinson. The fact that there have been so many wins blown that it's not a sure thing on Hutchinson, I went with Walker. By next week, I might go back to Hutchinson. Or I might even put offensive tackle. That is why this draft, Pat, is so good. It's not a quarterback draft, and there's no Micah Parsons, and there's no Jamar Chase.

But the intrigue at the top is really good. It makes it hard for someone doing mock drafts and somebody who's got a report on it and trying to project who's going where. But gosh, if you're in for just a reality show and not knowing the answers until you get to the test this is it like we ben mcadoo said that you know sam darnold's our starting quarterback and had to quickly put his shoe in his mouth and then we started our show with all that because we don't have a place for any of the quarterbacks right now and carolina might be a place that's how good this draft is from an intrigue level so yeah i won't try about but like the big one i like is for tibodeau to the jets i'll tell you i know the jets guys

obviously and he had a great meeting with them friday and i think they came away really liking him and that's the one that's making a lot of noise here in new york because there's a lot of teams who take thibodeau and some of the comments he's made in the past might not gel with i think the jets felt comfortable with them so thibodeau going to the jets as high as four when i've seen some mock drafts with him falling out of the top 10 which i think is ludicrous yeah so uh digs was talking to me about this earlier because he was putting in bets in like january about the draft because digs is a guy that actually enjoys the draft and we're very thankful for him tibideau was like plus 105 in january to go number one overall all season he was supposed to be number one overall, overall, overall.

And then something happened where he ended up not being number one, and that's the only Thibodeau that I've heard of. And I apologize to him. I don't watch enough college football at the time to really understand how great he is. Why was it? Is this all smoke and mirrors? Some people have him going like two or one even.

They have Thibodeau potentially going. What are you hearing, and why did this all start to happen when he was initially supposed to be the guy for the last two years, I guess? Because he's a different cat in what he says. And none of it's bad. None of it's illegal. None of it's something off the field. But he's the kind of guy that has said on record,

there's nothing a coach can teach me. That's something he said. He said on record he chose to go to Oregon over Alabama because he's not so concerned about national championships in college football. He's concerned that, you know, in a post-playing career, there's going to be an amazing job waiting for him at Nike in the corporate world. And that's what Oregon's all about. But certainly a long way a little bit.

I don't know. You know, for an old school football guy, you guy, you hear that he's really into NFTs. Yes. Again, this is one of those deals where there's nothing wrong off the field as far as any of this stuff. He's talking honestly, and he might be representative of a new generation, and that might turn some other people off. new generation and that might turn some other people off that said best player in the pac-12 amazing pass rusher number one high school recruit and has been through some shit you know and his life he has overcome a lot to get where he is right now i know the jets guys had a great what is that what is that what is that shrugs what do you have to go because like we met nausea

harris nausea harris was like homeless and he was also different right nausea harris was also different had a personality uh talked his shit did his stuff Harris was like homeless and he was also different, right? Najee Harris was also different, had a personality, talked his shit, did his stuff. We enjoyed him. We thought he was electrifying, but it was being said that some OGs or old heads did not enjoy their meetings with him or whatever. Is it similar to that? Because Najee was a deep thinker. Like when we talked to him, it was like, oh, this guy's a deep thinker. Actually, he's just a little bit different. I wonder if Thibodeau is the same thing. Is that a similar situation? Similar. He will talk to you.

He will look you in the eyes. He will have a real conversation with you. It is not robotic. It is not scripted. And, you know, he hurt his ankle this year, and everyone was like, oh, he's done for the season. He came back and played those final few games. And, you know, I almost take more value in that than a guy saying that,

whatever, comments about he said that I'm Jadavian Clowney 2.0 and people freaked out. They're like, well, Jadavian Clowney didn't have a good NFL career. Why is he making that analogy? Who cares? Who cares? It's just stuff that he said. He's a great quote. He's very interested in like.

What did he overcome though? What did he overcome? Was he like. I think he had a rough childhood in Southern California, like a rough childhood. And he often speaks about it. I don't know all the specifics, but he has been through a lot in his life. Give me that fucking back.

And he has still been the number one high school recruit in the country and is nothing but excellent at Oregon. And the coach likes him there. The players who we've had on Good Morning Football who played with him love him. And then the brief interactions that I know teams have had with him at the Combine and then in these visits have been outstanding. So, look, again, we've had guys with a lot worse off the field that maybe doesn't make the press or some things that do.

Or we've got failed drug tests at the Combine. All these things that are genuine red flags. Talking about NFTs, is that a red flag? I don't know he's different i've never you know has anybody done exactly like this before i won a super bowl hour two wrapping up on serious we continue with schrager on youtube see you in six bye go ahead aj sorry about it it's riggs last thing for me are do you get a sense from any uh other like head coaches or front office people around the league that they're kind of worried about what these players

are doing these superstars kind of forcing their way out? Like are they thinking, hey, we've got to find a way to keep these guys happy and make sure everybody gets enough touches? We've created a salary cap situation where a guy on his first-year contract is going to be paid next to nothing, and yet when you're not a first-round pick, when you get to that fourth year, you can break the bank and make $ dollars and there's a crossing the roads that in the past well the player would beat down the drum and say hey can can i get paid what are we doing now you're seeing teams actually decide not to pay those mega contracts the packers the chiefs and that's the second contracts for

those guys but when you've got you know players like maurin, who's been nothing but an absolute stud and Mr. Team, and he wears the C on the jersey, and Terry McLaurin comes out, and he's kind of biting his lip, and he's just playing. He should probably get paid. He should probably get paid. And you get guys like AJ and DK and Debo. But then there's the teams who are like, I'm looking at this draft. Gosh, I'm seeing guys in the second and third round who are like i'm looking at this draft and gosh i'm seeing guys in the second and third round who are maybe going to make a million dollars base salary next year who we're going to get the production from also so it's this really interesting decision on what you do when the when the packers traded davante adams they not only got the picks and everything

but they saved themselves close to 100 million dollars on the salary cap that they can spend elsewhere, and that's a risk that they're willing to take. Hey, Ty heard something. Go ahead, Ty. Will you ask Schrags if he heard the same thing? Yeah, Schrags. I heard, I think it was just like maybe Packers blogosphere, but that there was a possibility that the Packers package Jordan Love and like a second-round pick and a fifth-round pick

and maybe go after someone like Tyler uh or tyler lockett on draft night have you heard anything about either jordan love or tyler lockett the jordan love one was something i was trying to push at the combine to a lot of you know folks at packers you know they haven't talked publicly about it but i'm not sure the market on jordan love because hey jordan love is going into his third year and say he has this outstanding season you're gonna have to pay him too so haven haven't heard anything about Locke anything, but you're always going to hear Seattle. You got paid a win, Trey.

I mean, what are we even talking about? These owners are making billions, $9 billion net, I just heard from somebody yesterday, told me maybe on this show how much you have to pay. Yeah, that's a part of it. Like you got to pay good players. What do we even? I get it.

But does Jordan love a good player? What have you seen? I don't know. He did start hitting the net. He started hitting the net hitting that yeah he looked good in the chiefs game so he scored seven points against the chiefs and hey good day the thing with the seattle with lockett or metcalf um john schneider for years was raised in the green bay organization knows all those guys goody and schne work together. There's all these connections between Schneider and Green Bay based on his time with the organization. AJ, I assume Schneider was with him when you were there. I feel like he goes back a long time, not to date you at all, but he was raised in that Green Bay organization and now he's in

Seattle. How old are you today, Shregs? Not to date you. I turn, this is crazy, I turn 40 today. Wow. Big one. So on April 20th, 1982, we dated you just now. We literally just dated you. Yeah.

That's when Shregs came into the world. Man, it was a better place, wasn't it? Unbelievable. Since you came in, it was great.

Let's get back to your mock though, before we gotta let you get out of here. We appreciate you for joining us. You have a couple in the top 10 that have changed, obviously.

You've got Cross and Sauce going to the Giants, which I assume in New York is a big deal. Pickett going to the Carolina Panthers. Albert Breer reported this morning. He's obviously the author of the Monday Morning Quarterback, formerly of Peter King's writing. He said that maybe the Panthers actually get a tackle, and then they try to trade for a quarterback.

Are you hearing that type of thing, or what do you think on this yeah it's yeah when I hear when I what I'm hearing out of Carolina is it's a possibility a quarterback and I give them pick it here but they're also the thought process here that people have around Carolina is that there are three really good offensive tackles in this draft Icky Charles Cross and of course Evan Neal and even if they don't have a quarterback situation settled right now, those three guys can be left tackles that they could rely on. And that might just be the safe pick. And then they don't have a pick again until 137. So they'd have to get really creative if they wanted one of those top quarterbacks. But gosh, even six for Pickett,

and that's not a top pick, that seems so rich. So a lot of the thought around the league is that Carolina is going to do something called the Pickett Plus, that's not a top pick, that seems so rich. So a lot of the thought around the league is that Carolina is going to do something called the Pickett Plus, which is you trade back and you get something. If someone wants to trade up for six and you still get Pickett, but maybe you get a second or third round pick if you trade out of that six pick.

All right, well, we hope to catch up with you next Wednesday when you put out your third and final mock draft. We appreciate you. Keep crushing it on Good Morning Football. Cooper Rush this morning was awesome. Oh, hell yeah. Rogers, Cooper Rogers. Sorry about that.

Connor Rogers. Connor. Bleacher Report analyst. Came in with a denim jacket. I thought it was a pretty cool look. He looked awesome. Literally, all eyes in the office were like, denim jacket guy's pretty cool looking. And then we listened to him. You guys got a lot of up-and-coming great analysts joining. We're trying.

We're trying. I think we've seen the same faces talk about the draft for years. So one of our initiatives this year is to try to give some platform to some of the folks on Twitter, on YouTube, and maybe who don't have the TV gigs and the cozy hair and makeup that I get to maybe be able to show their stuff too.

Yeah, but to be clear, the people that have come on have great hair. Oh, yeah. And look good. Those guys have been killing it. We appreciate you every morning, and happy birthday, ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager. Happy birthday.

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Good gambling? Yeah. I'm really starting to feel it because MLBB is more of a stats sport for me. So the more games they play, the better the stats are. So I'm good there. Oh, you're accumulating more information as the days roll by. Bubba Campino, how are you doing? Are you a champion gambler right now or what?

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Now, the Mancini cinnamon roll bread from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania could have made that smooth creamu a little bit better than it might have been. But with that being said, a less peanut buttery peanut butter is what the smooth creamu is. It was delightful. Yeah, absolutely delicious. We talked about it. Wanted to hate it because it was a Canadian thing.

It was a big deal. But it is. The smooth creamu never fails. It'll cost you a good 40 bucks to get it to you it will don't sleep on the uh crunchy croquois yeah speaking of french uh the croquois really did it down there delicious that's basically just the crunchy creamu they put a couple peanuts in the creamu that's right and call it crunchy croquois and it's made in a company that's based in chicago yeah and it's shipped to canada but we canquois. And it's made in a company that's based in Chicago. Yeah.

And it's shipped to Canada, but we can't get it here. It makes no sense. No. None whatsoever. Crap. Yeah. Bullshit. Happy 420.

If you find some smooth cream, put it on a roll or a bun. Whoa. Toasted. Whoa. It was so good. It was. Joining us now is a man who certainly knows nothing about anything that tastes good because he eats grilled chicken and white rice every meal of every day of his life. Everything's so regimented that every morning he wakes up, does cardio and lifts,

literally for two hours. Then he runs all the kids to school. There's 10 of them. He comes back home. He works out again. Finds some toxic stuff on the internet. Then he joins us for the last two hours of our show every Monday through Friday, and we are eternally

grateful for it, aren't we? We are. Always are. This guy's college football national champion. Wow. Wow. Holy shit.

Yeah, the mountaintop college football. Then he got drafted number five overall to play linebacker. What? What? A lot of money.

Huge money. Did zero medical examinations for any of the teams because his knees were terrible. Still got drafted five overall. Went on to become

the all-time leading tackler for the team that he got drafted five overall the green bay packers won a super bowl with him oh yeah think about that and while doing so became the most toxic human to ever exist won the rider cup he survived from covid ladies and gentlemen aj ha what's up what's up, bud? What's up? Thanks for the great long intro. Completely, you know, all factual. Hey, happy 420, pal. How you doing?

Yeah, pal. I see. Is that on top of the graphic? There's a little smoke rising? Yeah, yeah. We've been celebrating. Thank you, sir. We've been celebrating the ability to adapt the date bug on a regular basis.

If you've seen it, it has celebrated a lot of different days. We've had a lot of different things. Today, it got a little smoky. We don't know if everybody's chiefing or edible in or whatever you've got to do, but today is a great day to enjoy a plant that brings a lot of positive to the world, a lot of good conversation, although it might have been painted as something bad long ago. It is certainly not, and science has proved that. Not that science has proved everything that we should necessarily believe.

I think the last two years have shown us that. But science has said that the plan is magical, and today is the day to celebrate it, AJ. So we got a little smoke on the day, Buck. No big deal. 420. 22. I mean, that's amazing what this show can do. And credit to everyone, all the boys back there that continue to come up with new things.

But also, were you guys just talking about, as Ty likes to say, Debo Samuel requesting a trade? Yes. Breaking news out of the NFL that has come in the last 20 minutes. Debo Samuel, San Francisco 49ers stallion and stud, has formally requested a trade from the San Francisco 49ers. Ian Rappaport is reporting that that request for a trade happened a week ago, although we heard reports from Adam Schefter via Akash

Navarathan. Akash Navarathan reported that Schefter reported on ESPN that they would make a deal for Debo if Debo would come in and listen. That just came out like today or last night. would come in and listen. That just came out like today or last night. The request was Akash and Nevarathan. Did I get that right? Yeah, I think you nailed it. I think I did. I tried my best. Akash, we apologize if we did fuck that up.

I don't like when people call me McAfee. Schefter said San Francisco would pay Debo Samuel. Go ahead and put that back up. Would pay Debo Happy 420 Foxy. San Francisco would pay Debo Samuel today, tomorrow, the next day. It's not hard to figure out what the contract would look like. This, I think, is Debo not wanting to get a deal done.

The 49ers are ready. Debo's the one that's put a halt to everything for right now. So that Schefter came out and said that on ESPN via Akash and Averathan. He said that they said that. Now, that is interesting because did Schefter know that he had requested a trade? Schefter didn't want to break the news that he had requested a trade because of his relationship with the 49ers and didn't want to make it a big deal. Then how did it become breaking news today?

Because Jeff Darlington of ESPN chatted personally with Deebo Samuel. I believe Jeff Darlington is in Miami, and I think that's where Debo is as well. He said that he just spoke to wide receiver Debo Samuel, and he told Jeff Darlington he had asked the 49ers for a trade. He did not want to discuss specific reasons behind his request, but he has indeed let the 49ers know his desire to leave the organization. More to come, says Jeff Darlington. Then Adam Schefter said that actually happened a week ago.

Then Ian Rappaport came out and talked about how money is not the reason, not the root of the issue. Otherwise, that could be fixed with a big offer. There is also issues with how he's used. Now, we don't know if that information is coming from the Niners, and they're trying to, I don't want to say smear, but kind of debunk the entire story and make Debo not look great because we thought Debo was a very pivotal

pivotal point of the offense getting the ball a lot and he is massively important to them we didn't know he would be upset about that that doesn't sound like that's something that's real but nonetheless Debo wants out of San Francisco and none of us have a clue why AJ well so they say now that he requested this trade a week ago, right? About a week ago. A week ago. Yeah, so I guess credit to Shefty and Rapsheet if they did sit on it, if they didn't go with it, if they knew that this happened, I guess. Well, the fascinating thing is why would they not?

Because the team told them not to announce it or because their inside source told them not to? Do they think that maybe he would eventually just come in and get a deal done and they didn't want to put that out there? Yeah, but that doesn't matter, right, for the inside source game. Yeah, I mean, has anyone gone back at any point during the season? Did anyone see anything like this that he was unhappy? No.

Never. No. And I think Diggs, didn't he say he's leading the team out with the boom box and everything? Yeah, literally having the time of his life. And they're successful. It has to be money, right? It has to be money.

Are they trying to pay him as a running back and he wants to be paid as a receiver? Well, they just listed him as a receiver in these tweets. So I was actually looking at that while it was being reported. It's a big deal then. Something is really off then if he could get a deal from them and give them a ton of money and he's saying, no, I'm good, I want to go somewhere else.

Is it as simple as he doesn't want to play for in Santa Clara anymore? That's what it feels like. I just don't want to be there anymore. Team's really good. He's a superstar on their team. If they're saying the money is not the problem, that means San Francisco 49ers are willing to pay him whatever the fuck he wants. Is that what that's saying? They're willing to pay him what

they think. Is he trying to follow Jimmy G wherever Jimmy goes? Maybe he doesn't think Trey Lance is going to be good. Well, that's what Connor said, but, like, that would be wild to me that that would be the reason why. Yeah, before you've really seen him do anything in a game. Well, you saw him a little bit. But I guess you would.

Yeah, you have seen him do something, but I guess, man, I don't know if that's part of it, which it absolutely could be. Mitt just watched a clip. Nick just watched a clip. Sorry, Zito came in my ear. I thought he said Mitt just watched a clip, and I was like, what? All right. Nick just watched a clip.

By the way, I thought Mitt's mock 4.0 coming out today. He's been so focused on that. I was very interested to see if he was diving into the depths of why Debo wants to leave the San Francisco 49ers. Nick, you just watched a clip. Who's talking? Rapsheet was on NFL Network, and he just said that the 49ers, they received the trade request a week ago,

but they've tried to engage in contract talks, make him one of the highest paid receivers in the league. They're willing to do that. But Debo simply wants to be elsewhere. He mentioned the usage thing, and he hinted that Debo didn't maybe like carrying the ball so much because of the hits he was taking. 60 times last year he carried the ball. 60 rushes, that's 60 extra tackles that are happening in big bodies, I assume.

It's a much different collision happening to his body. And if he's only going to get paid as one of the top wide receivers, how many times do they carry the ball, he's thinking to himself, and how many hits are they taking to extend their career? So he probably wanted a little bit of juice on top of that for being a running back as well. And when they said, no, we're not going to do do that then all of a sudden his body didn't want to take the hits of a running back anymore which would make sense aj right that would make sense especially

i'm sure he is supremely confident in his skills as a receiver so i'm sure he knows he can do even more there well slant god you know like top five when he sticks that everything though like everything he creates matchup problems everywhere he goes so i wonder if he didn't like the running back role as a whole or he didn't like the running back role when he wasn't going to be paid as a running back as well as being paid as the wide receiver that he is i'd assume the latter dude yeah probably most i mean it's just crazy to think that he's not that he wants out right now with how everything at least has looked from the outside like he if he was unhappy during the season he hit it pretty well because the dude played his ass off and he seemed to be one of the biggest like leaders on the team too

it had to happen in negotiations had to have happened in the go something had to have been said in negotiations you know where maybe he because him getting the ball as a running back was awesome it was hyped up it was talked about as a great thing you know so i assume he heard all that noise it had to come in the negotiation part where they're like we are willing to pay you look we know what the contract is you saw that being reported the niners know what the contract is and that's for the wide receiver thing yeah and then debo i don't know who represents debo debo represents debo or somebody else represents debo i'm not sure said yeah but i'm not just also one of the top wide receivers in the league i'm also one of the best running backs in the league so i think there has to be

some sort of tax for that you're like well there's been no precedent we you know that's just party rules wide receiver and then he says well i'm not fucking taking 60 extra tackles as a running back you're not gonna pay me for that that's probably just part of negotiation i assume i assume yeah and when has this all happened from the end of the season until now? Yeah. Probably within the last couple of weeks. Right. Right.

Like these other deals getting done. Definitely. Devante Tyree kill happen. T, but man, Christian Kirk. Yeah. If you're a stud player,

you have more and more power now as the league goes, which I think can be a great thing. Well, follow up to that. Baker Mayfield said he wanted to be traded. The Browns came out and said we do not care okay then uh adam schefter just reported that although it is being reported that debo samuel has requested a trade in the end the team could just choose not to trade him schefter was saying that so it wasn't like the browns baker

mayfield thing but we know schefter is pretty plugged in over there as well. It wasn't like the Browns outright saying, nah, we ain't going to do it, but it was Schefter who we think is pretty plugged in to the Niners' operation saying, the team doesn't have to trade him, so we can take that with a grain of salt as well. So maybe this will be a good old-fashioned standoff between Debo and the Niners.

I like this. His agent is Torrey Dandy of CAA, and he also represents DK Metcalf and AJ Brown, who are also looking to get paid. Oh. What's old Cousy's name again at CAA? Torrey Dandy. Torrey Dandy.

Agent Nugget says Ari Mirov of MySportsUpdate Pro Football focuses. Torrey Dandy negotiated this deal for Denzel Ward. He's been one of the busiest agents this year, also negotiating big deals for Mike Williams, Chris Godwin, and Hasan Reddick. He also reps Deebo Samuel, DK Metcalf, and AJ Brown, who are all waiting. Big money moves. Tory Dandy's batting 1,000 this offseason. Tory Dandy is in his fucking flu game right now.

Tory Dandy is pounding the pavement, pounding the phones, and running the numbers. Tory Dandy's got a lot of shit going off. Good luck to Tory Dandy is pounding the pavement, pounding the phones, and running the numbers. Tory Dandy's got a lot of shit going off. Good luck to Tory Dandy. Hopefully it all works out for everybody. Niners fans got to be pissed, though. I mean, absolutely. You don't know what the quarterback position

is going to look like. You don't know what, is Jimmy G going to be there? Is he not? And now, like, one of the most electrifying guys in the league might not be on your team. He's also, not only is he so, like you said, slant God,

how quick he is, how he can stop on a dime. The dude is so physical. That's what separates him from everybody else. I'm fascinated because I would assume whatever team trades for him, if this happens, once again, Schefter is reporting that, you know, the reality, the Niners do not have to trade Debo, even though he has requested it. The team that gets him knows they're going to have to pay him, right? Yep. Niners do not have to trade Debo even though he has requested it. The team that gets him knows they're going to have to pay him, right?

Yep. They're going to have to give something up. They're going to have to pay him. And they're going to have to know, are we still allowed to use you as a running back? Yeah. Was that just something you were saying to them because they didn't want to pay him?

We'll pay. We'll give a little tax. Hey, we understand there's a little bit of a – He's got to have an idea of where he wants to go. Indianapolis. That's awesome. Does that make sense? I guess then he can be a full-time receiver.

A full-time receiver, get the ball every once in a while. What's he got to do? We've got Jonathan Taylor, a great old line. We've got Matt Ryan. Do you want to take Jonathan Taylor off the field, though? No, what are you talking about? Why would you have to? Put them both in?

Yes. Split backfield. What are you talking about? That would be sweet. Yeah, you're damn right. With Matt Ryan, too, He has the ability to run. We saw him last year. He looked fast.

Yeah, he looked fast. Let's do it. Does Ballard have $100 million laying around? Yeah. Well, that's the thing. A couple picks. Not laying around for anybody. He's given up.

He's traded picks before. DeForest Buckner and Carson Wentz, right? Both number ones. He has paid a lot of money to a lot of people. So this narrative that Chris Ballard doesn't do stuff that I promote a lot because it does seem like he doesn't do shit whenever shit's happening, I don't think it's true. Maybe he could get into the game.

But also, Ty, I don't know if you heard this, AJ. Here's some more draft rumors that are going on. Ty heard earlier today that maybe Jordan Love is in a bundle package on draft day for a trade and the Packers make a big move. This is coming after Mark Murphy said draft night could be interesting. Is it going to be as interesting as you trading up to get another quarterback,

Mark Murphy? I'm not 100% sure, but what do you think is going to take place on draft night, Ty? Well, like I said, I mean, this is completely hearsay. You know, it was a Packers pundit that I came across. But, yeah, it was Jordan Love and I believe the second-round pick this year and then maybe like a fifth-round pick. So you trade it to Seattle, you get Tyler Lockett instead of DK Metcalf, which would be kind of tasty.

But I don't think he's in line for a new contract, so they wouldn't have to pay him right away. I'd imagine Rodgers would love to have a guy like Tyler Lockett. And then you still have the two first round picks that you can, you know, I mean, if you need to make another move, hey, Debo's available now. You know, maybe one of those picks is going to San Francisco. You grab Debo, too, and then the Packers offense looks completely different. This is what's awesome about the NFL.

That'll never happen. Ever. Ever. But we got to talk about it because it could. And who knows? I would love to know, like, did Ty really see this from somebody or did he just make this up? Well, that's the thing.

Some people can even create a burner to put something out there and then say, oh, I've seen it on the internet. Did you? Where? Well, Stinky1704. The Packers would love to do that, don't you think? No pun intended. The Lockett one for sure, I think.

He's locked up for the next four years. Yeah. The Pond track. The Pack love. That's what I'm saying, though. They would. Don't you think they would jump on that offer? AJ's on fire today.

Yeah. He knows. He knows. AJ's on fire today. AJ's on fire today. He's the best would jump on that offer? AJ's on fire today. Yeah, he knows. Shreg's birthday. AJ's on fire today. Whose birthday? Shreg's, right? Oh, it is Shreg's birthday. Yeah, he's going to be joining us here in a couple moments, actually. I can't wait to chat with him

in about 11 minutes on his birthday. I asked him, like, hey, happy birthday. I know it's your birthday. You want to stop by? You put out your mock draft yesterday. He said, I love it. Come on. One o'clock hour. Can't wait to get on. It's cool. Hell yeah. I can't wait to talk to Shraves, dude.

Let's bounce around the NFL a little bit more. Jarvis Landry's visiting with the Saints. He's still available. So all this conversation about Deebo Samuel being on the market, Jarvis Landry also on the market. He has changed his agent. Jeremy Fowler's reporting that he visited his hometown Saints this week. Ari Mirov accumulated that information in MySportsUpdate.

This will be Landry's second known visit, as he also met with Atlanta earlier this offseason. He recently made an agent switch. Okay, here we go. So that means he recently made a change of networks, potentially. That's what agents are, right? Who are they tight with? Who do they have good relationships with?

Who are they best at doing business with, both on the field, off the field? He makes an agent change. Maybe this agent has different networks around the NFL, different lengths of relationships with GMs and people in different positions. Have him come in and meet. Oh, he's with me. Hey, good guy.

Good guy. Come on. He's one of ours. He's a friend of ours, dude. Come on in there. I'm intrigued about Jarvis Landry because I might be mistaken, but he's a fucking incredible football player, is he not?

He was hurt last year, so I guess he didn't perform as well. Him and Baker maybe not on the same page, but Jarvis Landry's a dog. Is he still a dog or not? He is a dog. Definitely. It just shows you that one year. Last year he's banged up a little bit. The Browns were obviously somewhat of a mess at times,

and people just kind of write him off, but they forget about how great he is. Landry's the guy, though, that not only has the crazy intangibles, obviously, with everything and speed and everything, but he brings the leadership and stuff you need to a receiver room. So if you have young dudes, he's your guy too. That Hard Knocks clip I think made a lot of people a bigger fan of Jarvis Landry where he stood up and talked to

the whole receiver room, held him accountable and he was like a second coach to them. I thought it was awesome. It didn't feel like that was staged for the camera either. No, and usually I think we're pretty good at sniffing that out when it is. Yeah, and there is that, by the way. A lot. Yeah, there's a lot of that.

It's tough. It's tough when you're in the room, by the way, you know, when you're in the seat, really tough. My face gets warm. Yeah. I get uncomfortable. Me too. I get uncomfortable. I start drifting to the back.

I start drifting to the back when people know that they're speaking to the camera, you know, and you can tell in sense it, that they practiced it in the mirror, their delivery. Did they rush it? Maybe, maybe didn't go as smoothly as planned in the mirror but they really gave it a go that one felt as if he just got to his tipping point was like i can't do this anymore this is a bunch of bullshit and i think that's why we all respect or he should get in the movies you know what i mean he should get in the movies maybe and be a fucking you know oscar winner just like just like every the rock davis smart. Will Smith did win. Yeah.

Well, he's going to have to give it back. How's he doing? Not great. He's not giving it back. I saw Jada was teasing a fucking explosive red table event. Which, by the way, we shouldn't hate. Did they do it? Not yet.

We shouldn't hate that aspect, that they want to own their story on their platform. It's smart. I don't think we should hate that aspect. But everything else we have heard about them, we should. It's smart. I don't think we should hate that aspect. But everything else we have heard about them, we should. There is so much. I did not know much about their relationship until the smack heard around the world. And then it just kind of gets thrusted into our world.

And once again, if people are watching for the first time, I am sports stitch. I literally only care about this shit like it's only blinders on mostly nfl i'll watch the nba can't wait for another edition of t4 oh yeah t4 coming today third hour i mean it is the best one that we've ever had but i stay in my world as much as possible because my job is to talk about this world and then you know there's a lot of negative shit i don't understand at all will smith came into my world world. He came into my world after smacking people in the mouth for different reasons. And then all of a sudden their relationship came into my world. And I just, he's turned full baby face at this point.

Everybody feels terrible that he's in that relationship with that lady, I think, at this point. Did you see the clip like a week ago? Of her filming him? Oh, yeah. That's the scary one. I didn't see it. It felt real.

It felt very real. I showed it to him. When she snuck up on him. Yeah, i didn't see it it felt real felt very real i showed it to him when she snuck up on him yeah i didn't watch it though it looked uncomfortable oh yeah he was only being filmed in my own house and then there was the other clip that went uh where he was talking about planning jada's 40th birthday party and how embarrassed she was and this is what will did for like three months leading up to it. Three years, he said. Three years, excuse me. Three years, Jesus Christ. Do something else. Yeah, I mean, he's a wacko too, for sure.

But for everyone who was on the fuck Will Smith side before all this stuff came out, it's like, oh, he's... Now ask him for his freedom. Yeah, he's married to one of the worst human beings on the face of the earth. You need to get out of there, Will, yeah. All right, well, hey, we're pulling for all parties there. Yeah, good luck.

Good luck, everybody. I'll watch Red Table Talk. Yeah, absolutely. I respect the fact that they need to get out of there, Will. Yeah. All right. Well, hey, we're pulling for all parties there. Yeah. Good luck, everybody. I'll watch Red Table Talk. Yeah, absolutely. I respect the fact that they want to own their story. With that being said, everything that's coming out sounds like they are. I'll still download Jaden's music. What about his water in a box? Oh, he's got box water? Yeah, yeah.

No, no. I'm very... I know a water guy that has his own water out on the shelves that I like to use. Not what I'm drinking here, but out in California, different areas. I saw it at Whole Foods. What happened to his other son? What was that stuff called? What was that stuff called?

I don't know. What was that stuff called? What was that called? You're bringing their competitor into the house, though. No, no, no. PH water? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think their competitor into the house, though. No, no, no. PH water? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it was.

PH water, yeah. It did taste delicious. Made me feel better. I had a little bit more energy. Hell yeah. PH water. You're an idiot. Anyways, we don't know what happened to his other son.

Just like OJ's. I just found out. It's not Jade. It's not? What's that? It's not Jade's. That's why. She killed him. Whoa. Whoa. We don't have that. It's 420. That's why. She killed him.

Whoa. We don't have that. It's 420. Let's have a little bit positive. What are we talking about? Well, we weren't talking about the water that you were trying to shoehorn into the conversation from that day that we went over to a massive house and had a conversation with a group of people.

We're talking about Will's other kid. And then it turned out that it wasn't Jada's kid. And then Connor made a terrible statement. You need to walk that back. i retried that statement that's very nice of you way to go well done that's white table talk over there let's move on ian rapid port has listed four teams that could potentially be considering debo samuel among the teams to consider as the trade market for Debo Samuel as it heats up. The Jets, the Packers, the Chiefs, the Lions, and I assume most other teams who like really good players. This is a terrible tweet. Let's get to a break.

The Lions are in there, baby. The Lions don't like really good players. Come to Detroit. Let's go to a break. We'll be back on the other side with birthday boy Shregs. What is that Mickey Mouse bullshit? He's going to Detroit. Yes, that's what it means.

Thank you, AJ. Every team that has two first round picks this year. Thank you. It seems like he did that strictly for this show. Yeah. Rap sheet. Or because the two first round draft picks, that's what it's going to take to get Debo maybe? I don't know.

That would be interesting. 32-34. Take him. We get Debo. Easy. I think two is probably going to be it. Debo, maybe? I don't know. That would be interesting. 32-34. Take him. We get Debo. No, no. I think two is probably going to be it. Yeah. That 34 is not a first round pick.

Hey, Debo, go up to Detroit, all right? We'll never see you play football again. We'll hear about it, though. Well, Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. We'll hear. Debo loves Thanksgiving. You think Debo has to okay this or no?

He's not going to the fucking Lions. I hope he has to okay it. No way. No, no. I know he's not going to Detroit. Yeah. What? That has to. No way. I know he's not going to the Lions. That's already been... Green Bay would be amazing. Yeah. Second round pick, no way that he has no trade clause.

Still on his rookie deal. It's more likely the Lions trade for him than the Packers do, after what we know. The Lions, dude. Imagine if Shanahan was like, oh, is that right? And Lynch, you want to get traded? Okay.

MCDC. What do you guys got for this guy? Nothing? Got to give us one of those first round picks. Good luck in fucking Detroit, dude. Just like Bill Belichick did to Jamie Collins when he traded him to Cleveland. Everybody wanted more money, asking him to the TV. Like Bill Belichick did to Jamie Collins when he traded him to Cleveland. When he wanted more money, he asked him to the TV.

That rumor of what happened in the New England building spread through every NFL room. Because everybody had a friend that was on New England that said, Yo, listen to what just happened. Allegedly, Jamie had asked for more money in a team meeting or in a public setting. And then he was traded to the Browns literally the next day. Yeah. It's like, oh, is that right? Okay, fucking off to Cleveland. And he was very good. And it was the next day. Yeah. It's like, oh, is that right? Okay, fucking off to Cleveland.

And he was very good. And it was for like a fourth round pick. Yes. Just get him off the board. Similar to, hey, that's pretty similar to releasing a player because he said, no, I would like a slice of pizza and not chicken salad. Bingo. Can't play for the Maulers. Debo would not be a Pittsburgh Mauler.

No, he will not. We're 100% sure of that. You know what I mean? You got to be a chicken salad eater whether you like chicken salad or not. To be a fucking Pittsburgh mauler. Are you in or are you not? That's the mentality we need here. This is the Pittsburgh Marine Maulers.

Line 46. Line 46. What if he would have said, what line 28 say? That'd be awesome. What line 32 say? How many lines are there? At least 46 46 by the way

Is just disrespecting People as a whole What were the first 45? That's a great question Very important And then what is post 50? I'm not It ain't easy

Making USFL Now that league Probably gonna die In the next few weeks Probably But they have Upstanding individuals We're back in four

Now hey listen We hope it survives Yeah Yes listen. We hope it survives. Yeah. We do. We hope it survives. Hell yeah. We just got a bad feeling about it. That's a reality show.

We would like to hammer that back at some point because we talked about it more off air yesterday. The USFL being a reality show instead of a league is something they should legitimately think about.

The games are going to happen, and it's like a tree falls in the woods type thing because nobody's going to be there, nobody's going to watch. Right. But you make the reality show about the teams and the actual games matter and the run and everything like that. I think that is actually what they should do. Yeah, it's a great idea. It is. Have open bars after practice every day for them and stuff like real reality shows.

Well, I don't know if they need to get all boozed up all the time, but definitely have people sneaking stuff into the hotel. Oh, my God. Last chance you, but with the USFL. Hell yeah. Sweet. You're welcome. Boom.

Like Kyrie's going to have tonight. Like Tam had in game one. No, no, no. That was a layup. That was just a layup. You got first buck in that game. You got first buck here. You got method first buck.

Kyrie, Kyrie, Kyrie. Kyrie free throw. I already locked it in. It's not going to be a free throw, dude. What, you think he's just going to shake everybody, go to the hole and get fouled really hard to set the tone? I hope that happens in the same one. What if that is the first play of the game?

Might be. They did win the tip in game one. That's huge. And then KD missed a shot. It was like... God, I had KD. Did he really? And then Jason Tatum got fouled and it was Jason Tatum. Oh, fuck.

KD doesn't miss shots. I guess there's a stat that he does. That's a fun thing to bet on though. That's a cool thing to have. I would take Jalen Brown tonight. Okay, but what if they lose the tip? Hey, did you guys watch the whole Lakers program? Winning time? Like all of the episodes?

I haven't caught up. I missed the last one. I'm not far enough, though. Old buddy, first off, how did he wreck his bike, and does he come through? The head coach? Yeah. The brakes fell off.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He said how? Connor, I didn't understand. He had a close call, and then all of a sudden he crashes 10 seconds later. I know. By the way, I've stopped exactly where you're at. He's an old man. He hit the front brake probably.

That's why he went over the front handle. It had to have been if the bike was behind him. But that'll get you every single time. All you need is a little sticky, sticky on that left one. That was old days. You know what I mean? A lot of hills in Pittsburgh. I mean, he's riding his bike through L.A., right?

Is there a lot of bike riding out there? Well, he was right in the middle of the road. AJ, the good news is he was a real guy, and that really happened. So you can find out. I haven't looked at it. Usually I do look at it. When I watch shows, I like to look them up and see what happened. But I have not with this one.

Well, good. That's how you're supposed to, you know, do it. Why would you just? No, I like, I like knowing what happened sometimes before. Okay. I don't understand. Yeah, I don't get the spoilers. Why?

I don't understand it. My wife does the same thing. Zito does it. Oh, he has it, yeah. Yeah, read the last page. It's usually as I'm watching. Zito goes and looks at the spoilers before he goes to see the movie. My wife just hates surprise.

She just wants to, you know what I mean? I do it with shows like this that are somewhat based on historical events because I'd like to see how different they tell it from what's allegedly actually happened. You want to judge? Yeah, I won't do it with a fiction story. That's probably the right way to do it, by the way.

That's like doing your own research and stuff like that because just like Jerry West, that was Jerry West. Yeah. You know what I mean? I knew nothing about who he was. Just like Reinsdorf with the Bulls, even though that was a docu-series.

Kraus? Yeah. Larry Kraus. Sean Payton with his documentary that's out there. I don't know if he's out there. Larry Kraus. Oh, Larry Kraus.

His brother. His brother, yeah. Who's Reinsdorf? Exist in GM. Reinsdorf's the owner. Yeah. On the White Sox as well., yeah. Who's Reinsdorf? Exist in GM. Reinsdorf's the owner. Yeah. On the White Sox as well. Hey, what's that Reinsdorf deal?

That's what you would normally say there. No, but do we know? Like I said, is Sean Payton happy with his depiction in that documentary? Yeah, he was in it. Of course he's happy. Yeah, we don't know spoilers, but he makes an appearance. He didn't get final editing, though. He needs an Emmy for that appearance.

He does. He's really good. What's he doing? Just golfing, chilling, living for a year and then coming back coaching? He says he's doing studio work but he doesn't want to make the announcement. He wants the studio to do the announcement. Who's that for? That's going to be awesome. It better be Fox. They lost freaking everybody

this year. Not in the studio they didn't. Fox's studio people are still there. Yeah, you're right. NFL Sunday. Fox NFL Sunday is still there. Is that what he's that? Fox's studio people are still there. Yeah, you're right. NFL Sunday. Fox NFL Sunday is still there. Yeah, yeah, those studios. My bad. Is that what he's thinking? They have not announced the number one sidekick for Burkhart yet.

What are they doing? You think they're really? Sean Payton or Greg Olson, isn't it? Got to be Greg. Hey, I heard Gus doing basketball the other day. Yeah? That was awesome. Who does he work with?

He works for Fox fox so he could do tn how's that work uh they they made an announcement i looked at we looked into it they made an announcement that they were agreeing on a deal or whatever fox and t and turner which was awesome gush to do the uh gush to announce the match with a rod and tom brady and all that yes if you're going to get them over there, get him over there. He has some good questions for him. Yes. I am in favor of more Gus Johnson. Love Gus. Love Gus. By the way, there's so many gifts of him just being like the coolest dude of all time.

Not to mention last year, pick him up and put him down. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Oh, what a life. Hey, let's go to some phone calls, huh? Hell yeah. Update from the Internet. I'm getting breaking news on this 420.

Okay. The Internet has checked in with a situation that we have been monitoring from the beginning. Here we go. Poop in my fingernails. Poop in my fingernails. Let us down a road that we could have never imagined we learned of the hawk haas enjoying this song so much that it's on in the car and in the living room and it is what aj hawk thinks of whenever the word music is even stated in his presence in that one setting yes because it was fresh in my mind but continue in a setting that happened that we literally just situations are situational

in this situation that is certainly situational to a degree but there's mostly facts being presented whenever he heard the word music the first thing he thought was toilet seat boys poop in my fingernail and i know in your head there's a lot of other music that you just thought of probably the first thing he thought was Toilet Seat Boys, Poop in My Fingernail. And I know in your head there's a lot of other music that you just thought of, probably old concerts you've gone to, maybe your first CD, your first stream, whatever it is. AJ's first thought was Toilet Seat Boys. That's right. Turns out Toilet Seat Boys actually named Toilet Bowl Cleaners, Cleansers.

And they have 23,000 songs. And one of those songs is about A.J. Hawk himself. And it was written, wrote, whichever one is accurate to be used in the English language there, in 2011. Wow. A.J. Hawk denied that he had ever heard that song before. Teej, T.J. Lang, has updated us on Twitter that they played that song every day in the fucking locker room. Wow. And it is definitely why AJ Hawk has been uncomfortably talking

about that song for the last 25 minutes. Got him. Wow. Wow. There's it. There it is. Got me. What a scumbag.

Son of a bitch. What's your deal? The reach of this show. I'm sorry. I forgot about how big this platform is. I should. What a scumbag. Son of a bitch. AJ. What's your deal? Why'd you want to- The reason for this show, I'm sorry, I forgot about how big this platform is. I should have known I would get called. Oh, sorry. I get called out. Oh, look at him.

He's a buster. He's moving. He's moving. He's dead in him. He's moving. It's okay, dude. It's all right, bro. It's a good sign.

It's an honor. Yeah. I should have known when you started that. It was going nowhere. What do you mean it was going nowhere? We're talking about nowhere. Now we know. It's a massive step forward in an investigation.

You're right. We just went down a fucking road. I got five new PRs listening to that song. Can't believe it. Thank you for introducing us to the person that wrote 23,000 songs, Matt Farley. Absolute legend. Absolute champion in the songwriting game.

He's a champion. Absolute champion. He's a good gobbler, too, when he goes in the studio. Good gobbler. Grand slam gobbler. Grand slam gobbler. All fun and games until Kanye samples some of it. Whoa.

How do we know he has one? I'm sure he has, dude. Hey, those lawsuits that happen all the time in music, very, very interesting and fascinating how it all plays out. You sampled my melody. I can hear it in your voice there. You go from, come with me, a C, a D, an A, Z, D, A. Okay, now let me run mine back you hear that and then you

got rob van winkle saying there's goes dan dan dan dan and ours goes dan dan dan dan and you know there's a difference there come on who decides that who who decides that is there a judge somewhere is that one ear that gets to do it? It could be Lord of the Toilets. Toilet book, Matt Farley? Matt Farley's desk. King Cox. I will settle this.

There's a lot of people getting ripped off, I guess, but there's only so many sounds. How do they do the songwriting process? Who all gets a writing credit? I would imagine some songs are just hanging out, trying to figure it out. Then someone gives them one line or one word. Does that person get credit? I don't know.

Remember, we've talked about this a couple times, so I don't want to repeat it for the people that have heard it. I apologize, but it's good for this particular conversation. I was all in on Kenny Chesney. I listened to an album of his. I'm like, man, I fucking love the way where this guy's coming from. You know, I love where this guy's coming from, listening to the lyrics and stuff.

And then, you know, he won, like, like best album 900 people walked out there as writers i'm like well whose brain who who wrote well this person wrote like the first line of that song and then the next two bars were these people i'm like wow that's amazing it's literally like a machine kind of piecing it together a lot of country people do that they don't write a lot of their songs man that's see massive bummer that's a bad that's a big but that's how a lot of piecing it together. A lot of country people do that. They don't write a lot of their songs. Man, that's, see? Massive bummer. That's a big bummer. But that's how a lot of them make it big, by writing songs for other people,

and then all of a sudden they start singing. Lady Gaga. Did we mention Stapleton? Yeah. Kanye. That's why Nashville's so big for country music. Why? Because there's just a bunch of songwriters in Nashville,

and that's where they congregate. That's where they go. That's why I enjoy the... And Sweden. What was that, Songlet? Sweden, big time? Is that where they go. That's why I enjoyed the... And Sweden. What was that song? Sweden, Big Time? Is that where they hang? That's for BPM.

Yeah, Sweden for EDM. Max Martin, a legendary pop producer, wrote many songs for Britney Spears and many of the top pop hits of the past 20 or 30 years. Huge Swedish influence. So was that a Swedish accent? No. Oh.

What was that one there uh blend of canadian and i thought it was swedish i was excited for that so that's where a lot of like house and like djs go time is that fetus man i bet you it's a good time they talked about in a documentary i think you told us to watch was it the avicii one that one was worth it i forget it's not in nashville i feel like we got a piece of it with that show Songland and then it canceled Songland. I don't know.

What was that? That was devastating. That was like my favorite. That was a good show, man. I concur. I loved it. That Ryan Tedder dude got a fan out of me

from that show and the way they kind of pieced the song together, it was interesting listening to people that like actually know music and like, oh, when this happens,

this has to happen on the other side of it and then they kind of piece it together like it's a like a recipe almost like a formula and it's they make bangers bangers bangers on that show yeah so how long did you ever meet the toilet seat boys nope did not meet i have not met them like said, I've known about them for about seven days. That's not true. TJ Lang is full of shit. Can we call TJ Lang? Please call TJ Lang.

Hey, TJ, I hope you have time to answer real quick. I don't know if you're watching. Just clips are live. We need to get to the bottom of this. Is TJ lying, AJ? Nope. I don't want to call TJ a liar. He might be four IPAs deep, though.

Well, that's even better. It's April 20th. That's 20th nothing yeah that's only like the first three holes yeah true just started we should definitely tell him we are alive though before yeah I used to live on the course where T like in with TJ and some alignment if I wasn't playing with them and they were playing they would come by my garage and I had this alcohol deal going on I'd have a ton of handles of booze and I just give just give them a handle of Crown or vodka or whatever when they'd come by. Oh, you were like a pit stop in there. Wow. Yeah, it was a nice spot. That's a great thing to do.

He did not answer. He must be busy. When I was at the Greenbrier, there was no booze on the first eight holes or something like that. They're like, hey, ninth hole, fairway, third house on the right, doors open, and there's a bunch of beer or whatever.

Remember that? Raid the fridge. Yeah, we did. That's awesome. Changed the game. I came alive in that back nine. Hell of a comeback. I came alive on the back nine.

Did you play in the Pro-Am? Yeah, yeah, I did. Isn't that cool? That'd be cool. It was. I had a good time there. I was with John Daly, who the Daly's just signed a deal with Hooters, by the way. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Both of them, congratulations on that NIL deal for golfing. Lil' John, University of Arkansas. I'm about to burp up. How old is Lil' John? He's, what, sophomore, probably? College, we think? I think so.

No. Is he in college already? Yeah, he's at University of Arkansas. He's a player. Yeah. He's a player. He's a stud. 18, I believe. He's 18, so he's a player. He's stud. 18, I believe.

So he's a freshman. He's been going to school for golf for years. He's only a freshman? Hey, he's going to go. He's going to go. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Sorry, I got a Hooters deal. Good for him. But I was playing with him and a couple other people. It was a good time. It was a good time. AJ, as we get closer to this time,

it's going to get a bit repetitive because I have a lot of questions because it's my first time and I assume we're going to make a lot of content out of that because what an incredible opportunity to be invited to that hey there's a lot of people that want to go

to that aj you know that i got a lot of people telling me that what do you mean like guys that people that want to play in it yeah congratulations on getting invited i've been wanting i've been hoping and wanting to be a part of that for a long time blah blah blah and i'm like i me too by the way i've been pretty excited about it i if it was me i i believe you deserve to be a part of that for a long time, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, me too, by the way. I've been pretty excited about it. If it was me, I believe you deserve to be there. That's how every conversation seems to go almost. But I am incredibly honored to be a part of this thing. It's tough.

It's tough. I think they say there's like 400 people in consideration, and then they invite like – I guess the total field is usually like 85, 90 people maybe. Look at that, boys. It's cool. Smooth. I mean, you're going to win. No, 90 people maybe. Look at that, boys. It's cool. I mean, you're going to win. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Not this year. Not this year. Not this year. Not season one. What are we talking about? Yeah, come on, dude. Season one of Tahoe, dude? I mean, that we are definitely going to make?

Yeah. Like we're going to do the USFL? Of course. Boom. Boom. That is definitely what we need to do. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Not season one of we need to do. Yeah. Yes.

Okay. Not season one of Tahoe, dude. Maybe season three of Tahoe. Yeah, season three, season four. Season two, we just get into the conversation. Season two, we start breaking into the conversation. I might be a player. Can he stay sober enough night one to really show up tomorrow and do it again?

We'll see. But. Page Turner. Let's not rule out getting hot. Yeah. Going on a run. Hey, three straight days, though, Nick. I, let's not rule out getting hot. Yeah. Going on a run. Hey, three straight days, though, Nick. I don't think that's going to happen.

That ain't never happened in my life. It could. After the weekend before, too. Have you ever played golf for three straight days? Yeah, that's the thing. Me either. I've never done that before, and you're walking four days in a row if you play the pro-am.

Wow. Don't get there until Thursday night. You have to walk the pro-am? You can actually take a card for the pro-am if you want. Oh get there until Thursday night. You have to walk the pro-am? You can actually take a cart for the pro-am if you want. Oh, bingo. Okay. There you go. Gotcha.

I would like to be in that camp. Is there a lot of people that do that? Yeah. Like your group will have, your pro-am group will have a cart. Have carts. Because if I do that, I'm so sore day one. Yeah, I can't. I can be sore day two.

People are expecting me to fall off anyway. Right. You should start hot. Yeah. you need to be fresh at the beginning Being sore and tired might be good for you Because sometimes you get out there And it's a different world when everything counts And there's people there and you get a little too fast Especially, you know, I start playing bad

Which happens every single time Most shots I hit, you start walking really fast To that next shot, I'm going to hit this thing I'm putting this thing in a hole and then that goes in the woods again. Hey, I would like to say that I think that is where and I think that is why kickers and punters get compared

to golfers a lot because it's like a repetitive motion, right? That you have to practice and then you have to do the exact same thing over and over again with like people and in moments and everything like that, I think. so i think that is actually something that i'll be able to like i think real round will be like practice round like i think i just have to get enough practice rounds in to be acceptable to be on a course if that makes sense you're already more

than acceptable trust me there's all walks of life out there. No, because, I mean, he can't be the worst golfer in a tournament. No, you won't be. You have no chance of being the worst golfer. Yeah, I mean, he sucks at golf. No, he doesn't. He's a good golfer. He told me he was going to win Tahoe last year. Yeah, yeah.

But he knew he was going to. Probably win this year, too. Nope, exactly. I mean, Larry the Cable guy will be there. You're definitely going to beat his ass. I don't know. Larry plays like every day. Don't a lot of people take this like super serious though?

Like people are training for this thing, right? Legit. Like I said, like last year was the first year I went out to the range and hit some balls. And you talk to people like, oh, you've been playing a lot? I'm like, nah, not really. Like five, six times a week. Like how much do you play?

I was like, I played two and a half scrambles this year. That's usually the case. Any time I play is for an outing usually, and so I'm playing scrambles. I got to start walking courses. No, you don't. No, you don't. You don't need to train for that. You don't have to.

You don't have to. You don't have to train to walk. You have to walk courses. I do. I got to get myself in a mentality. to walk courses. I do. I do. I got to get myself in a mentality. Al Michaels was in last last year, by the way. What's that? Al Michaels was in last last year.

Is Al Michaels going back? That guy's a man. He was minus 85, which you normally think is pretty good. You're saying you want him there, so you're not last, aren't you? No. No. No, I want to see Al Michaels. You have no chance of being last.

I think you're going to play great, really. I really do. In comparison, Chuck was minus 28, Barkley. Chuck played much better last year. I've been very hit or miss in these golf tournaments that matter. Braves was also minus 28. Yeah, but you also won for one with a belt. Yeah, I won championships.

AJ was minus 10. That's pretty good. What was Braves? Minus 28. Dang. Braves is a much better player than that. It happens out there, though. I can get you.

Hey, Tahoe can get you. Just one round. That's all it, though. I can get you. Hey, Tahoe can get you. That's right. One round. That'll be episode two. Yeah. Tahoe can get you. What happened at night in Tahoe? I can't wait to just dial it in, folks.

I'm sending a hyperbaric chamber out there. Yeah. Smart. Keep your legs fresh. Hey, you know they have next to the range, have like a trailer that's like their physio deal, and there's like a couple of chiropractors and people stretching, getting their back cracked. Here we go.

That's what I'm talking about because that's what I'm doing on daily. I didn't know if it was going to have to change for the big game or if I was going to have to fly out my own. Yeah, you still probably fly out your own crew wearing geese as well. You could use that. Imagine if I had the geese. That would be awesome. Body gurus flanking me.

You got to wear pants, though, for Friday, Saturday, Sunday when you play. Really? That's the one rule, yeah. Golly. VJ, tour rules. What is it? Fucking deal. These rules suck.

I saw Jordan Spade's caddy with shorts on when he won the other day. Michael? Yeah. Caddies can wear whatever they want. Oh, isn't that just nice? You guys deserve it, it though by the way and i do believe we're gonna go with a um a rotating bullpen is that okay like a couple bad shots happen all right see i'll get i'll see you in a couple holes

probably depending on how quick this thing goes you know we're gonna try to do we gotta do everything we gotta do out there you know what i mean AJ I mean you Believe me You can use You could use 12 caddies around if you wanted to Oh Here we go Is that real Like say you hit a double bogey You're done

You're fired And bring somebody else in No no I don't want to You're not fired You're just hanging for right now We got to get hot somewhere else Back a lot Yeah this is just

We got to get hot somewhere else Sit on the bench yeah Oh jeez Can't do that That's a weird situation Hard thing is trying to Trying to get caught somewhere else. Oh, jeez. Can't do that. That's a weird situation. The hard thing is trying to get caught sneaking extra weight in your bag for whoever's carrying it. I've been doing that to my brother forever.

Trying to sneak different weights in there every year. Oh, yes. Well, they're allowed to wear shorts. Deal with it. How many... If Zeke carries your bag, you know you get a, they wear like the, like a vest, you know what I'm talking about?

Whatever the little coverall thing with the name on it. That's what the caddies wear. Zeke should wear that with no shirt underneath. I already have an outfit. Zeke's got one for the masters. Ever heard of it? Oh yes. You have to wear that.

Has anyone here ever caddied before? Yeah. How many golf bags you ought to bring? That's a, and what is what, is it the walking bag? Obviously, just a tiny little one. No, you bring one. No, you should carry

a tour bag. No, no, no, no. But I'm saying like that, I don't know. As someone who caddied to Oakmont for a summer, I got you. I fucking caddied for Pat

when we won the goddamn belt. That's right. Here you go. Championship. Ty was blacked out there every single day. That's right. Weren't you, Ty? Pretty much, yeah. Championship. Ty was blacked out there every single day. Weren't you, Ty? Pretty much, yeah.

It's that hot Bahamian sun down there. Bro, your shins. His shins got kissed by the actual sun. The sun actually just spray painted them. The reddest of red. There's a third, fourth degree burn. The sun is no joke out there, man.

I have to put suntan lotion on every hole and a half, pretty much. I'm a pretty fair-skinned guy. Forgot to reapply before the back nine. We're out of Tahoe, you're saying? Oh, yeah, because it's always sunny. Pretty much 99% of the time, it's sunny. It's awesome. Okay.

Well, I'm ready to come play. Can't wait. I'm going to start walking the damn courses around here. Yep. I'm going to wake up every morning in that brisk, potentially winter breeze with the sun shining. It's fucking April 20th. Get it together, whoever is in charge.

And I'm going to go hit that course, dude. And I'm going to get ready for Tahoe. Hell yeah. You got to get out there this weekend. It's going to be nice. Yeah. 82 degrees. That'll be good. That'll be good. weekend. It's going to be nice. Yeah. 82 degrees. That'll be good.

That'll be good. Practice. Yeah. It's good training. Simulating. Yeah, here we go. Which one of your 14 country club memberships do you use? Well, to be honest, I do believe none of those are still going because I had to change my

card. Yep. And it's a shame. I feel like they all hate me because it's like the $500 a month spend. They're not just getting out of my account, and I never told them, but I hope bygones can be bygones and at least one or two of them,

depending upon who has an opening at the time that I need to fucking golf, and I guess I got to be a full-time fucking member to even golf here. Okay, thank you. You're the only place that has a tea time at this particular time he's well you signed up for a good four or five years here no problem at all you got down jeez louise dude i'm just trying to golf i fucking have to

golf right now this is it's an interesting game the golf the golf the whole business of it because allegedly the golf shops are where they make all their money at it's not actually on the golf feels like owning a golf course would be the at. It's not actually on the golf. It feels like owning a golf course would be the dream come true. Foxy, you worked on a golf course. I don't know. Yeah. You don't think so, AJ?

You don't think owning a golf course? I mean, some of them I'm sure make really good money, but I bet a lot of them are struggling a lot. COVID definitely helped. I'd rather just be a member. Really? Go and have a fucking steak after a round. Nice little shot. You are a country club imagine it but imagine though like dealing with the country club people the members who you

don't want to deal with i know i know people that you know tell me like how they'll email different oh i emailed the gm let them know this menu is unacceptable i was like who is the gm what are you talking about dude i had the fucking i tried to make a tea time through their they had an app or something like that this one place I was a member at. And I tried to get on there. I'm like, me plus like three. And they're like, well, that's actually the men's time, the members' time. You can golf with a couple other members at this time.

It'll be no problem at all. I'm like, okay, well, I'm never golfing here again. Not that they're bad people. That's why I don't play, because when I need a time, if I ever have a chance to play, that kind of stuff happens. And no offense to those people. I'm sure they're great people, and I probably learn a lot from them. But also, like, I don't get to golf often.

So when I golf, I'd like to golf with the people that are like, hey, this is who I golf. It's a fascinating game. Fascinating game. But I'm going to fucking get back in there, Foxy. Hell yeah. Foxy, we making a reality TV show today? Yeah, let's go.

So what we need to do, Pat, is if you actually want to play golf, like seriously with our schedule and everything, we have to call a golf course, one that not a lot of people go to, one that's not very busy. Oh, we know that one. What's your last tee time? Give us your last tee time, and then you tell the pro shop guy, hey, we will take care of the cart.

Wherever you put the cart, we will put it away for you. You don't have to wait for us. Let's say we get out there at 7 o'clock. We can be out there until 9.30, 10 o'clock with the Indiana sunlight, and we just sit there, and we're spraying as many balls as possible. Because the people don't have to stay there and work it. Exactly, because that's what I did in the pro shop. You get a guy come in at 7.30, it's like, come on, pal, I'm not kidding.

This is going to happen zero times, by the way. What? What, AJ? Ebi paints a great picture of what could happen, but guess what? It's not happening. And that's the most realistic picture for Pat, don't you think, AJ? Yeah, which means it's completely unrealistic and it's not going to happen. What is that old bot?

What is your problem? Yo, 7 o'clock. When you're home at 7 o'clock, whenever you get out of the office, you go home, whatever, hanging out, okay, eating meatball subs. I'm sure who knows the CBD. Oh, hey, babe, 645. I got 7 o'clock tea time with Evie. Got to go.

Yeah, it won't happen during the weekday, that's for sure. Yeah, so I'm going to get out there 5 a.m. You might just have to start playing like 72 holes Saturday. Every Saturday. That's impossible. You've got to walk 72. Walk 72. Absolutely packed on Saturdays.

Yeah, if you did nine with two balls, you're getting in 18. Just buy your own course. Yeah, seriously. Just buy your own course. That's more realistic, honestly. No, at the new place, I don't know what we're calling it yet. Thank you for dropping it all in on one or the other. That's more realistic, honestly. No, at the new place. I don't know what we're calling it yet. We just need to – Thank you for dropping it all in on one or the other.

We need to hire someone to build a fucking green for you, and then we can just go back as far as we need to. 150 shots, 100 shots. Neighbors aren't going to be happy. Neighbors aren't going to be happy. Is there 150 yards? Is there 150 yards? What?

Are they kidding? That's false. And you've got to just sit there and dial it in. Boom, boom, boom. Get synthetic greens made. Put like four synthetic greens around the outside. AJ, your $20 million is toast. Yeah.

So fucked. Toast, dude. You've been talking for how long about how you're going to do all this. You're going to be such a good golfer, and you haven't. Have you played a round? Yeah, I did. Thank you. I played it on Saturday.

Yeah, great round. It was all right, but, I mean, Thank you. Played it on Saturday. Yeah, great round. It was all right. But, I mean, there's a lot of work to be done. But we at least have a foundation. I got these new clubs from Cal. You guys played a full 18? You bet. What's that?

You played a full 18? I've never done that, actually. You know, I haven't really done that ever. Not enough time. We all got hungry. You can turn it on when it matters, though. Well, that's the thing. I'm really starting to worry about it because Clyde Christensen,

quarterback coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, formerly. Rational human, yeah. Okay. All right. Everybody needs to relax. He was one of the drivers behind me getting into golf back in the day when I got into golf for an off season. So I would golf with him a pretty regular basis.

Man, he knew. Hole hole 12 hole 13 i'm gonna turn it off and uh he would just like wait wait and then he would press press press and all of a sudden it's like man that is something i'm gonna have to battle and i've not been able to defeat in the past that's a long time on i'm with you hey believe me i think it's the one time it won't that's what playing in tahoe makes me not want to play at home because I'm bored playing at home because out there it doesn't feel like that. I don't get that 12th hole. Hey, I want to go home.

Yeah, plus we're at a TV show. It's not like we're just doing this just to play. This is Tahoe. This is Tahoe. This is why MJ has his own golf courses because he shows up. Him and his boys know we're playing speed golf. We're getting 18 in within two, two and a half hours. That's what the old guys

at the golf course I used to work at did. And he plays with 12 people too. How do we get that? How do we get that set up? We got to own a golf course straight up. No, no, no. Or play the very, very, very, very first tee time. So 7 a.m. between 7 and 7.30. That's what they do. You get that first one and just fucking go.

AJ! AJ! AJ, it's 420, dude. Posit what they do. You get that first one, and you just fucking go. AJ! AJ, it's 420, dude. Positivity, please. I'm being very positive here. Not the way you're saying what you're saying. You hear me? Am I lying? There's a good chance none of this will be able to happen.

It's tough. It's tough. But we can lay it out there as nice as possible so that maybe there is a little bit of drive and hope to do it. Yeah. Chance. You could, of course, the nice thing about Tahoe is you also get to talk to like 80 guys and be

like, how do you play every day? Yeah. How do they play every day? How do I, I wonder the same thing. That's what every year I've been there for like nine years, every year when we leave,

when we get done after I have a meltdown on Sunday, like always, I just hold off shooting a minus 35. My brother's like, you should probably play golf before this tournament next year. And I'm like, yeah, I will. And then nine years running, I'm like, okay. I thought I was pretty good coming in here. Who has the time?

Let's go to the 5RNG phone line here. Let's go to Mark in San Diego. Mark, what's going on as we wrap up this glorious four 20. Hey Pat. Hey, thanks for taking my call, buddy. Hey,

no problem, man. Where are you at? You're at work right now. Yeah. You're at work right now. You in the office. Yeah,

but sorry about that. Yeah, I am. Hey, no, no, no, hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Mark, what do you do? What do you do over there in San Diego,

man? Uh, I have my own insurance company. Oh, good you go. Insurance guy, good sales guy. Oh, you stay farm? No, I'm a broker. I'm independent.

Oh, congratulations on that, Mark. Nice. Congrats to you, man. Thanks, guys. Hey, good thing you know insurance, they say, pays forever. Just keep showing up. Keep showing up. Yeah.

What do you want to talk about, buddy? Hey, man, you know, I've been trying to get in touch with you ever since I've watched you on WrestleMania. I just think it was really inspiring, man. I mean, dude, I watched it even like two or three different times. When you came out and the cheerleaders were there and just that look on your face as you sat there and the stadium was going nuts. The most impressive part about your match was not only the backflip, but

how in the world did you jump up, land on the ropes, keep your balance, and then suplex that piece of junk? Hey, Mark. Mark, I appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you for watching and thanks for the love. Yeah, it was pretty cool. That was a fun little thing to walk back through right there. Walking out was insanity. It was insane.

And I said this on the Foxy flick. There was a time where one of my gimmicks around friends that I was at with at the time is when I would walk into a room, it was me walking through the WWE curtain or whatever. And it was just like something I thought about. It was insane.

I mean, it was fucking insane. And then you got obviously Seven Nation Army playing and the whole thing. I mean, it was just like uh something i thought about it was insane i mean it was fucking insane and then he got obviously seven nation army playing and the whole thing i mean it was just yeah it was stupid dude it was absolutely dumb awesome place banana oh yeah pat i ran into a guy today that that watched you that told me to compliment you on your he actually works at a gas station i go to and he said he said, Hey man, Pat was awesome at WrestleMania. I was like, Oh, thanks man. Y'all tell him.

He said, yeah, make sure you tell him. And then he said, I used to do a little wrestling actually in ECW. I was like, Oh, have you,

he said, have you heard of that? I'm like, yeah, of course I know all about it. And then he told me he was going to some underground wrestling match where they're going to be breaking fluorescent lights over each other's back. Oh,

probably GCW or whatever, but it could be superhuman too. True. It could be superhuman. It could be superhuman who is all other's back. Oh, probably GCW or whatever, but it could be superhuman too. True. It could be superhuman. It could be superhuman who is all the way back. This is so dumb to even think about. So why did you wear a singlet underneath? Well, because I knew it was going to pop up,

and although I did keto, it was not the right time to show the gut. You know what I mean? It's all right. It makes you feel more comfortable, I'm sure. Well, no, the singlet was not exactly the first time I ever wore one. I should have tried that a little differently.

You know, that wouldn't have been a great thing if I was an amateur wrestler. I do not believe that would have been good for the way my thighs are built. That was a cool moment. All right, enough of it.

I mean, all right, Mark. I mean, Mark from Panhandle, very nice. He's an insurance salesman. That guy does business. Yeah, that's right. Hell yeah. Jumping up there

was a moment that I thought about a lot though that was I was pretty pumped after that happened that I got up there because that could end

terribly yeah yeah all of it could end terribly yeah no the whole thing could

no that thing was supposed to end beautifully quick yeah you know I'm saying if you slip or something happens yeah it could end bad

that's what makes it great no it's awesome it was a it was a dream come true and obviously I'm saying if you slip or something happens, yeah, it could end bad. That's what makes it great. No, it's awesome. It was a dream come true, and obviously I'm undefeated at WrestleMania because the other match wasn't sanctioned. It wasn't a real match. Next match, can you tell Vince that you want to come out like Goldberg used to with the cops and everything? Listen,

real quick, I don't know if that's how that goes. I don't know if that's how it works, but imagine if I headbutt the fucking door too when I come out. Yeah. I would never be able to do Bill Goldberg any justice, though. The amount of intensity

that was walking into the ring with him every single time. You knew it was ending in cuffs. This night was ending in handcuffs for old Bill Goldberg. You could do it with Gilbert. Ooh, that'd be awesome. How is Gilbert? What does Gilbert do?

A couple other guys I know. I've heard from Gilbert. Gilbert's got a cameo. I think Gilbert's got a cameo. I hope so. Yeah, me too. All right, let's wrap this thing up. Mick, great mock today.

Good boy, man. Thank you, man. Thank you. Killed it. AJ, have a great 420, Bob. All right? You too. All right, man. Thank you, dude. Thank you. Killed it. AJ, have a great 420, Bob. All right? You too. All right, man.

Good luck at the course tonight. 7 o'clock. I don't know if we're starting at 9. No, it's a holiday. It's raining. Oh, yeah. It's a holiday. National holiday.

And it's cold, too. It is cold. Oh, yeah. Perfect conditions. Maybe tomorrow or Friday or Saturday. Well, that's why whenever we're in the Thunderdome Igloo, we got that golf simulator in there. We can just go play fucking whatever right now.

Right now, we can literally say, all right, see you guys. Boom. We're going in to play. We're going to play Tahoe two times now. Pebble Beach, Tahoe. Yeah. Bingo. DP show had it in there. Do they still got it in their new studio? I think so. They have to. I would imagine. They moved into that massive place. They have to have still got it in their new studio? I think so. They have to. I would imagine. They moved

into that massive place. They have to have one. Where is their new place? Connecticut? Close to where he lives. I thought. I don't know. They need to win the damn sports. Give them the fucking Emmys. Rich Eisen also

for a sports Emmy. Hey, Rich. I hope you win, but also what about the Dan in the ass? DPS time. We're never going to be nominated, huh? Did you hear today's show? I tagged him yesterday. Did you?

Yeah. Which one? I think it was during the poopy song. All right. A lot of people are doing that. We don't need that to happen. Okay. Especially now that we know there was an ulterior motive from the man who-

Oh, no. I was wrong. It was the Hey Arnold dick face. Even better. Keep that one in check. That's a good segment. Spreading awareness. We were proud of that. Can people find the other

hidden dongs in cartoons and send them to us? I would like to know. So you can hashtag There's a poster there's a poster with like i think eight or nine examples of it from old disney movies speaking of aj's number is what's columbus's thing 614-1800 aj hug hey you can get your number doesn't start with 614 dude you're a liar a liar. What's his number start with? I know it doesn't. I'm not going to.

I can't. Come on. 614 is Columbus. Oh, you don't like Columbus? You don't want to rep it? I thought you were the Ohio State Buckeye. I got my number 15 years ago, and I'm not changing it. In Wisconsin.

So what's Wisconsin? What's Green Bay? Kettering, Ohio. That's 937. So there it is. So there it is, 937 number. You know how people get their area code tattooed? I'm sure you have buddies with their area code tattooed on them.

I always said, no, I'm getting my zip, 45458. That's the zip I get. Wouldn't that be sweet if I made that a thing? Yeah, five numbers right there instead of three, dude. On my neck. What's that? Neck tattoo. Boom, put that right on there.

Or on the back of your neck like a barcode. Do you know what 45458 stands for? It's so much deeper than just these five numbers okay this is where i'm from not a phone line no no the actual physical location four five four five eight that's why i fucking put it right here on my neck and then the other side of the neck you probably just do like the coordinates of like oh yeah yeah send me the ordinance well you need to have co thank you

cause one is a lot true you need a co ordinance both boom

shout out 15239 shout out I told you it's gonna become a thing shout out to shop4122

who didn't just tattoo it they actually made an entire brand off it hell yeah it's really cool genius

smart actually great great merch hammer dons in 15 minutes who didn't just tattoo it. They actually made an entire brand off it. Hell yeah. It's really cool. Genius. Smart. That's great. Great merch. Hammer Don's in 15 minutes. Happy birthday, Peter Schrager. Big shout out. Hockey talk tonight. Yeah, big shout out to Ninkovich

and massive announcement. Huge guest tonight on that. It's hockey talk. Nick, tell the people. This is a big fucking deal. This is a big deal. Stanley Cup champion, one of the greatest defensemen

to ever play the game, Chris Pronger will be joining us. Whoa. Wow. Wow. Whoa. I can't wait to watch. One of the meanest sons of bitches.

He's a monster. He used to smoke dudes, didn't he? Kill people. Yeah. Who did he win it with, the Ducks? He did win it with the Ducks. Hit them hard. Last defenseman to win an MVP in the NHL.

I mean, the way you're fucking, you had to say it, huh? Absolutely. What are you guys doing What do you mean Cut it out you scumbag That's hockey talk tonight Chris Pronger Edmonton Oiler legend Anaheim Duck legend Absolute legend

Hey what else happens on that's hockey talk Other than just conversations with champion legends Every single Wednesday night at 8 o'clock? There's just chatter about the live game that's on and then we get the trivia we haven't had in a couple weeks, but it'd be nice to see that again. Oh, trivia would be nice where you give away shit and Mike Rupp,

Stanley Cup champion, gets in there. He drinks, what, a bottle of whiskey? And just kind of goes to story time in there. He is fucking incredible every single week. The absolute best. He's like the hockey version of A.J. Hawk, but slightly less toxic. Yeah. Yeah.

That's a great compliment, honestly. I don't feel like I have anything compared to Ruppert. Ruppert has 10,000 entertaining stories. He's unbelievable. Ruppert is unbelievable. And he's entertaining how he tells them, too. He's awesome. Yeah. And he's Stanley Cup champion The resume's there

Hell yeah Champion Champion Champion He is champion isn't he Speaking of First round champion What happened

Oh no no I'm blocked in the chat Can you ask Pronger If he likes the cream move Oh yeah good call Who blocked you He's connected You got blocked

Yeah the comment section Of that talky talk Is a dangerous place What happened Tell him what you get blocked for Who blocked you How do you get blocked Not necessarily blocked you? A tuba? Not necessarily blocked,

but I don't have a wrench, so I'm basically a nobody in there. Oh, so you can get banned and suspended and put into the bin. Yeah, that's a shame. God embrace the code. If I'm ignored

for more than 45 seconds, I leave. Really? So you send out a bird call? Nothing. If nothing comes back, all right, I'm done with it. Try next week.

It's always one of those lines, that's not the real Tony. That's not the real Tony. And then comes back, I'm done. Try next week. That's not the real Tony. That's not the real Tony. Nothing makes me more happy than that. Why don't you have a wrench? Good question. That's tough. You've been asking for a wrench for a while. This wrench has been a conversation for a long time.

Wrenches are only for what? Good gamblers, apparently. I didn't even have to ask for one. Mine just popped up. You're on the show. You're the host of the show. I think that is pick and chooseable though. I got one.

I like to go down there and kind of use my whistle down there. Yeah, you're a good moderator on the chat. Yeah, I like to let, you know. He's not very fair. I feel like I like to. Can you kick people out? We don't want a fucking wrench, all right? Well, you're an outlaw, Don

So cool, bad boy You just got 300 seconds, Fox Zito does hand them out too Everyone knows Blackhawks stink though We're back next year, baby Hey, tomorrow night, big tilt too Penns Bruins again

Thought hockey was over When's Penns Bruins again. I thought hockey was over. When's that? When's Penns Bruins? Tomorrow. No. Yeah. I do not like that one. Already back.

Are they having a goalie? No, we do not. What's his name? Johnny Lasagna? Louis Devon. Yeah, Louis. Big game change, dude. Louis Domingue's the backup. Big game change, dude. Louie Domingue's the backup.

The main game, Domingue. He once won 10 straight games for the Tampa Bay Lightning. Let's go! That's who we need. You win 10 straight, you win a cup. Let's go, Louie. Let's go, dude. This guy, saving the day in Pittsburgh.

I'm all about Louie, dude. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, his name should be Joey Lasagna, but I guess Louie the main is going to have to do. I'd be more scared if it was, but whatever. You guys are dead. Well, I don't know about that. You're going to come after his name. Pasta is your favorite fucking

guy, dude. Yeah, because pasta fucking dangles and scores goals, Tony. Sorry. We don't need the fucking lasagna guy in that. We need a fucking pasta dishing out Alfredo sauce up front by, Tony. Sorry. We don't need the fucking lasagna guy in net. We need the fucking pasta dishing out Alfredo sauce up front by the net. Jesus. Come on. Guys never won 10 games in a row, I can tell you that. Pasta, yeah, he has.

One time we went fucking 19-1. 12 fucking games in a row. Really? Yeah. With pasta? With pasta. That's because pasta's a player. Pasta's a fucking champion. He's going to come to the Penguins. No, Posta's never leaving. Yes, he's coming to the Penguins.

Posta actually said, I will never play for the fucking Penguins. No, he did not. Why did he say that? Because the Fenway group came and bought Posta? Exactly. He said, the only chance I play for the fucking Penguins is if they trade Crosby to the fucking Bruins. Posta hasn't played since the beginning of April. Posta's just waiting in the weeds, all right?

It's boiling pasta right now. It'll be ready when the fucking playoffs come around, okay? He's fucking al dente when it comes back. Exactly. Fucking hot and ready. Dude, pasta's going to be ready. Yeah. Can't be overcooked, though.

Gets a little... No, no. No cement in the skates, because if he does get overcooked, that'll happen. Don't worry. The boys will throw him against the glass to make sure he's done. Bendy legs. So what's going on in hockey, Nick? The Pens are dead.

The Bruins are dead. The Golden Knights are dead. The Red Wings are dead. The Blackhawks are dead. The Kraken, they got more showing, but they're dead. Colorado Avalanche? It's the Avs versus the Panthers. Man.

Fuck. Texas Hockey is going to beat Colorado in the first round. Don't count out the Lightning. Go Bolts. The Red Wings just kicked their ass last night. The Bru hockey is going to beat Colorado in the first round. Don't count out the lightning. Go Bolts. Bruins. Red Wings just kicked their ass last night. Go Bolts. Go Bolts.

Basketball season anyways right now. This show is the worst. NHL is next month. Bro, there was probably a time where hockey people were so excited we were talking about the NHL. Yeah. And then literally just because the Penguins are dead and the Bruins are nearly dead. Well, no. And the Golden Knights are dead.

I'll never watch a game again. Never. We won't talk about it. Ever. It will not even come into the conversation. No. And it's good. Playoff hockey is unbelievable.

It wasn't even like Posse getting hurt was one thing. When I saw Jari got hurt, I knew fucking hockey was over. I knew we were not talking about hockey anymore. That's why I tried to hide it from Pat as long as we could. Gumpy kept sending things in. I didn't know. I was like, what is this? What is this?

Because it came out of nowhere, AJ. This guy's playing. Standing on his head. I'll be back when the laser puck comes back. With the blue trail? Yeah. Yeah. Got to go back to Fox.

Let's go to one last phone call here before we get out of here. Pronger. With the blue trail. Yeah. Yeah. Got to go back to Fox. Let's go. One last phone call here before we get out of here. Pronger played with the Laser Park. You probably find out more about that tonight. Did that distract him on the ice? He also smashed Justin Bieber into the boards in an All-Star game. Hey, Biebs is in town tomorrow. Yeah.

Here in Indy. The guy puts on an absolutely beautiful show. Is he playing Lucas Oil? No, I think he's playing. Grangerfield? Basketball arena? he's playing... Grangerfield? Basketball Arena? Gainesfield? Grangerfield?

Gainesfield? What is it? It might be that. Gainbridge. Gainbridge. Gainbridgefield. When is that? That area is an absolute nightmare.

Yeah, it's tough. What is that? There's no parking. They've been building a parking lot for two fucking years. Yeah, who the fuck decides to knock down a parking lot in the middle of winter? I don't know how this hasn't been brought up. Right across the street from your favorite bar. Yeah, but that's my fucking point.

Exactly. It's completely thrown a wrench in the entire city. They want to switch streets. They want to walk on the other side of the street. City planning is interesting, I believe, is what everybody's saying, because it is impossible to get to one of our largest venues. Yeah. And if there's any weather at all, which there is in Indiana,

it makes it a pretty miserable experience going to things. But once you get inside. It's tall. Beautiful. Beautiful environment. Beautiful. It starts playing those bangers. Cambridge actually is kind of a fucking dump,

because the way it's set up. What? Seriously, it kind of is. The whole entire setup makes zero sense. I've been one time and I was like, all right, I'm never

fucking coming back here. What? What is that about? Sorry. Why? What is your deal? Is this where the Pacers play? Yeah.

First and foremost, the Pacers fucking blow. It did take 45 minutes to get a beer if we wanted to. Yep, there's that. The lines don't seem to be ready. If you're not sitting 10 rows from the floor,

you're basically on a goddamn chairlift the way all the seats are set up. It's like trapezoids and shit. I hate that place. Wow. But with that being said, if they turn it around with a parking garage and maybe then tear it out in the stadium and build a new one, I could be back. I could be back.

Aren't you going to Bieber? You're going to Bieber tomorrow? No, I'm not going to Bieber. You're going to Bieber. I wish I was going to Bieber. It's fucking sold out. You can go to Bieber. Somebody.

Oh, I'm going to go. We've got people in the office going to Bieber. Oh, yeah. Bruce is going to Bieber. Bruce is, yeah. And Powell. Oh, yeah. I'm not going.

God, are you going to Bieber? I thought you had backstage passes. I'm going to go by myself. I grew up with fucking Bieber. A couple Canadian legends. Bieber's an absolute stallion. He'll probably see you and call you on stage. Matt, could you imagine how good he is going to be?

Is it too late now to say sorry? I see my boy Goopy over there. Come on up, Goop. Yeah, exactly. That'd be awesome. What if he shouts out hockey talk? Oh, man. Oh, my God. Big hockey guy. Great job. What if he shouts out hockey talk? Oh, man. Big hockey guy.

Oh, my God. Big hockey guy. Great job. What if he said that? Goop, wait to ask Jon Hamm about his big dong. What if he gave you specifics? That'd be sweet, AJ. But he wouldn't be paying.

Because Nick asked him about his dong, didn't he? Yeah. But if Nick's not there. Oh, you're right. You guys asked about Jon Hamm's big old dong. What if that's how Bieber delivered it to? What if that's what he did? Hamm's big old doll. What if that's how Bieber delivered it, too? What if that's what he did? He's a showman.

Turned into a song. Hey, Bieber's a stud, right? It feels like he's linked to almost everybody. He writes his own stuff, doesn't he? Yeah, I think he creates songs for people, too. Got a lot of bangers. I think. Plays the drums.

He can do it all. His nasty fucking dangles, too. He's best friends with Austin Matthews, American captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Really? He's not the captain, but he should be. Best friends. Best friends.

Who is the captain? Marleau? Tavares. Oh, Johnny T. He's one of the best captains in the league. Peter, people say that. He's up there. Schrager said that Kyle Hamilton in Notre Dame,

in his mock draft, I just remembered this. You should have asked him about it when he was on it. I think he said he could be a captain as a rookie. That would be very difficult in the NFL, I think. It would be pretty difficult to do. Be a captain? As a rookie in the NFL as a safety? Yeah, definitely.

I mean, certain personalities could definitely do it at the right team, you know? You think so? Huh? You think so? Yeah, because what does it really mean? Well, that's what I'm saying. What are the responsibilities?

Yeah, and is it – yeah. Like halfway through the season? Does he mean it like that? Like he could get – Like earn it or whatever? Yeah. I don't know. Wasn't Levante David?

I feel like he's the only one I've ever heard of. We interviewed him and we talked to him about it, I thought. Oh, yeah, because he he said no, did he? He said he was captain since the first year I thought that, I could be wrong That's a lot of responses, that would be tough I think You're just trying to learn everything I don't think Mack was a captain this year

Unless it was half a season There's no way Bill would let that happen Maybe Trevor Lawrence Zach Wilson Oh, so that's like... But that's the team. Yeah. This guy needs to be a captain. Yeah, this guy's our...

You know what I mean? I'm surprised Urban didn't wear the C on his... All right, let's get out of here. That is a good ending. I'm surprised. Hey, what's going on with Urban, AJ? We're here rumbling. Oh, yeah, your guy.

I have no idea. What's he doing? My battery just died. Did he tell the truth or not? No, he said, what's he doing? My battery just died. Did he tell the truth? What's he doing? It makes sense, though. I didn't even put it together. Fucking pooping my fingernails is probably about Irvin.

That's the clue. Holy shit. Oh, my. Thanks for piecing that together for us, AJ. What will you tell us next? I'm the toxic one. It somehowcing that together for us, AJ. Jeez. What will you tell us next? And I'm the toxic one, and Ty somehow ties that together. That was fast. And I'm labeled as toxic.

Well, Ty is too, I guess. Just put two Ohio fingers together. That was all. And put those guns to the sky. Don't let anything get in the way. What's going on with Urban though? He's going back to TV, AJ? Is that what's going on, pal?

Does he want to? I don't know. You tell us, dude. Did you not stop down at Myers Chop House and Finger Gun Store and say hey what's going on next you're just listening I have not done that recently no alright would you call it again what's that pal

what was the name what of the restaurant Myers Chop House and Finger Gun Store I didn't see that edition but I'll what of the restaurant Myers chop house and finger gun store. I didn't see that addition, but I'll be on the lookout. I worked at Rudy subs and pizza two 86,

you know, not long, but anytime you get an, and in the middle of the business, like chop house and finger gun store, you know, they have good depth, you know, like it's a lot to offer.

There's a lot going on. Like cigar and smoke shop. Yes. Like, Oh, these places are cooking. They got, like it's, there's a lot going on here. Like cigar and smoke shop. Boom. Like, oh, these places are cooking. They got hustlers mentalities in there. Chop house,

no different. Yeah, gas and mini mart. Boom. You know? Hey, there was one taking Bitcoin. I don't think they were

taking Bitcoin though. Really? Scam. Seemed like that was a lie. Different kind of Bitcoin, probably. Poop on my... AJ,

that was fucked up what you did with the poop on a fingernail story because now we gotta make fun of Urban Meyer for that we didn't want to do that right it's up to you where you take it I'm just presenting information you're the best pal we'll be back tomorrow big show tomorrow

ain't that right big show talk tonight hammer down in about 15 minutes. You all are the best. Download the pod. And we do have some big news probably coming soon, maybe. Hell yeah. We are up to things.

Up to something season. Up to something season. Hell yeah. We're in it. Cheers. See you guys. Mignogna. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Are we live still? Yeah, AJ's gone now. Are we live right now? We live, Bill? Yes. Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Are we live still? Yeah, AJ's gone now. Are we live right now? We're live, Bill? Yes. Yeah.

Oh, we have to do a giveaway. What are we even doing? Oh, geez. It was 420. 420. Yeah. Winner Wednesday, too. Geez.

Winners were announced. Winner Wednesday. Winners were just announced. Congrats to all the winners. We have to do a giveaway of some sort. Yeah. Hashtag PMS happy 420. Hashtag PMS 420. Hasht20 hashtag pms 420 is pretty clean hashtag pms 420

say something nice to somebody put your cash tag in there on cash app because that's the uh the best finance app on the planet and also helps us out with giveaways makes everything much quicker because there used to be a hold up cash app makes everything much easier so put your cash tag in there use the hashtag PMS420 say something nice about somebody and

take a picture right now nah nah you're good the number's 420 right yeah 4

2 0 just in case that'd be absurd to go F-O-U-R. That's right. You never know. Sometimes, you know, you might get a couple of those.

You're right. That would really add some... More literate people. Some length to it. Yeah. Which takes away from the compliment that's going to somebody else. Exactly. Picture your favorite smoking device as well.

Oh, maybe. Maybe. Nah, you don't have to do that. We're going to get a lot of gas masks. Yeah. I don't want my thing mentioned. Maybe. Nah, you don't have to do that. We're going to get a lot of gas masks. Yeah. I don't want my thing mentioned. They don't want that to be happening. Just say something nice to somebody.

Hashtag PMS420 and your cash tag and you will win. You could potentially win or be one of the winners. We'll give away $420 to 50 people or something like that. Wow. Boom. Boom. Happy 420. Maybe 100 people.

What? What a screenshot of your favorite 420 song. Boom. There we go. There we go. Boom. I like where your head's at, Goop. There we go.

I'm excited to see what you put out there, Goop. I'll put out a banger. Okay. Hell yeah. Yeah. All right. I'll put out a banger. Okay. Hell yeah. Yeah. All right. That's all you got to do. Maybe you'll win.

10, no, 100? 100 winners. Or $120 winners. $42,000. Is that what that is? Yeah. Well, we're all learning that at the same time, aren't we? So maybe 10?

No, it's a good holiday. Okay. It's worthy.'s a good holiday. Okay. It's worthy. Have a good one. Be nice to people. See you later. Thank you. We'll be right back. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for watching!