The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 647 - Quentin Richardson, Unified Featherweight Champion Amanda Serrano, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 21, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about all the new information coming out about Deebo Samuel requesting a trade from the 49ers and that he longer wants to be a Running Back/Wide Receiver Hybrid, odds on where Deebo might end up next, some of the draft odds changing for certain guys, whether or not the Cardinals and Kyler Murray are going to come to terms on a new deal before the NFL Draft, and much more. Joining the program to chat about the NBA playoffs this far, and everything going on in the NBA is 13 year NBA veteran, 18th overall pick in the 2000 NBNA Draft, co-host of the KnuckleHeads podcast, Quentin Richardson (19:14-39:43). Later, joining Pat and AJ Hawk is the only woman to win world titles in more than four weight classes, the unified Featherweight Champion of the World, Amanda Serrano. Pat, Amanda, and AJ chat about her upcoming fight against Katie Taylor at Madison Square Garden, being the first two females to headline a card at MSG, how training has been going up to this point, why she spars with men, what she thinks the current state of women's boxing and her relationship with Jake Paul, and how she thinks her fight is going to go next weekend (1:24:39-1:38:02). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is Thursday, April 21st, 2022. And this sports show shall commence now. Thank you all so much for joining us here on this glorious Thursday. Everybody's here. The Toxic Table at Ty Schmidt at Boston, Connor. Before we even get going here, I do need to address something. Ty, there's a new John Wayne Gacy Netflix documentary. It is straight from the horse's mouth, basically. It's called the John Gacy Tapes or something like that. And he actually says in the only video I have seen from this particular documentary that is out,

Hi, I'm John Waynene gacy i murder people and put them in my basement i'm from waterloo iowa that is literally so the middle i think they missed the middle sentence yeah i don't remember that i mean that's what i thought he was saying hello i'm john gacy i'm from waterloo iowa And I want to let you know, that is damning. Yikes. Not only was he the man of the year in Waterloo, here he is saying, this is where I'm from. This is the town that created me. This is where I took the tractor another round.

Another round. Another round. And that tractor was humans that he was mauling and putting in his basement. From Waterloo, Iowa, the same beautiful town that we know you are from. And I remember talking to your dad at your wedding. And he was like, he was not from fucking Waterloo, Iowa, your dad. And you've maintained your innocence this entire time. Brand new footage, alternate angle of this murderer directly from Waterloo, Iowa. What are we doing with this whole thing?

Well, if you watched it, which I did. I watched the first two episodes last night. I'm not thrilled with the way the filmmakers kind of just popped this in here because he was not born in Iowa. He moved there later in life. He married someone. Her dad bought three KFC franchises. They moved from Illinois to Iowa for him to run the franchise.

He's first chef. First chef. He's ready to order a meal in the afternoon. At the Waterloo Jaycees, he made people refer to him as the Colonel. They actually did. That's how he won Man of the Year. Probably a great fundraiser.

As I was watching it, I tell you what, there's a person in there who graduated from my high school. Boy, i mean it's just oh starting to settle in yeah it started it really that's that's why when i saw that you know and i'm getting a bomb of just a barrage of tweets this guy's not from waterloo okay we can't do this i had you know what if if john lane gacy's from waterloo then the headquarters of deer are from waterloo as as well. That's a stipulation that I'm going to make because this is bullshit. We don't fucking claim

this guy, okay? He's a sack of shit. He didn't actually kill anybody in Waterloo either. Back in the day, they used to be able to say, no, I didn't. They were like, alright, case closed. That's literally what used to happen back in the day. If you watch it, he certainly tried to, but

he didn't get the job done. But I think it was in the chicken, dude. If you watch it, he certainly tried to. He certainly tried to, but he didn't get the job done. But I think it was, you know, like when you're watching that and things pop up and it's like, oh, Jesus Christ, I know where that's at. It was, I don't know. It was very damning. Congrats to Waterloo having John Wayne Daly. He's not from Waterloo.

You put that back up, Foxy. Give the man his flowers. He was from Waterloo. Listen, this guy literally says, I'm from, oh, sorry. I'm from Waterloo, Iowa. Living is what he should have, you know, there should have been an asterisk.

I live in Waterloo. Yeah, but home is where your heart is and he had about 100 hearts in Waterloo, Iowa. At least, and then he went over to Illinois and put up another 50 stack. Thanks, Ty. Peace, Ty. Thanks, Waterloo, Iowa. He's from Illinois, Zito. See, that's what I don't understand either. He started all Waterloo.

Zito, you know, just scampers right on by. This guy was built in Illinois, did most of his heavy lifting in Illinois, and here I am taking the track. Listen, we're not saying it. We're just telling you what John said. Yeah. Well, what do you want me to do? That's the most profitable KFC franchise in the nation.

So, yeah, they're sending people out there and say, how is this guy making the chicken so goddamn good? Everyone's going to this place. I'm sick of it. He's not from Waterloo, okay? He's a big Hawkeyes fan, too. He was not. He was not a Hawkeye.

He was not a Hawkeye. He wasn't a Hawkeye. We'll see if any Iowa State Cyclones do any investigating into Waterloo, Iowa, to see if he was a big-time Go Hawks guy. He was not a Hawks guy. This guy loves Curbs dogs. Yeah. Curbs dogs aren't around yet.

He was wearing the black and yellow Zubas pants. Yeah, he was. It's a tough day to be Waterloo, Iowa. Wow. Wow. Man. Feel bad. Is he still there?

It's a moment of silence for Waterloo, Iowa's innocence. He was executed, you asshole. In Waterloo? In Waterloo? No. Did they send his body back home to Waterloo? Yeah, we sent him right back. Take your shit back.

That's what he said. For man of the year? Excuse me? Did they have a memorial parade? Just real quick, this is real inside our show stuff. A lot of people probably weren't even watching when this all was happening.

John Wayne Gacy was a serial killer. He murdered a lot of people back in the day, back whenever people were murdering people on a regular basis and nobody knew because there was no such thing as the Internet or brains, it felt like. Investigations happened. There was a lot of great detectives, but literally they could get put off a scent

just by somebody taking their shoe off and going in a different direction. John Wayne Gacy had like 30, 40 bodies in his basement. They were just covering it up with soil and more soil. And he was running like a, the town square, basically. In that documentary, it was very clear that he started in Waterloo, Iowa. It's not very clear.

As we watched this entire thing, we thought to ourselves, we had to, literally we were forced to think to ourselves, Holy shit. We know somebody from waterloo iowa yeah ty schmidt and since that moment all the way through last night when this was sent into the group text we had thought that waterloo iowa was maybe painted wrongly and the people of waterloo did not deserve any type of like connection to the serial killer this terrible clown that was just murdering and murdering and murdering even though he was the man of the year in waterloo voted man of the year in waterloo jc's it wasn't a unanimous you know hey this is the best guy in waterloo no well he

won the award waterloo man so we thought for long time, maybe we misjudged the importance of Waterloo into John Wayne Gacy's life. Maybe Waterloo didn't empower this man to think he was untouchable to go on and kill all the people he did. We felt bad for a year or two, didn't we? Very. We literally felt bad

because you're from Waterloo. We've met now your family from Waterloo. Good people. Fucking great people. Yeah. Turns out you guys create one of the worst people of all time in front of John Wayne Gacy. Right here. He's from Waterloo. Good people. Fucking great people. Yeah. Turns out you guys create one of the worst people of all time in fucking Don Wayne Gacy. Right here.

He's from Waterloo, Iowa. Terrible. I don't feel bad anymore. Okay, I want to let you know. Waterloo, Iowa needs to tighten the fuck up. Okay? You guys need to stop handing out this Man of the Year award to serial killers. Okay?

Because that's what you guys are doing to our entire society. I loved Waterloo, Iowa. Then I heard about Waterloo, Iowa. A lot of questions about Waterloo, Iowa. Then you kind of settled those things down. It's not about Waterloo, Iowa. Then I heard about Waterloo, Iowa. A lot of questions about Waterloo, Iowa. Then you kind of settled those things down. It's not about Waterloo, Iowa. Now we're out more alternate angles. It is all Waterloo, Iowa.

It's not about Waterloo, Iowa. Listen, we can put a pin in this for one final time. He's a sack of shit. He got there. He invented the KFC Double Down, which is a lot of people, one of their favorite sandwiches when you look at the pantheon of great fast food chains. Two chicken breasts,

a piece of bacon, and some American cheese on there. So yeah, he brought that. But I'll tell you what, I don't like how Illinois continues to skip by in this. Can we talk about the parenting? I mean, his dad was a sack of shit. He's not from Waterloo. Why are we not looking at them? His dad died of cirrhosis. Yeah, because he was drinking, because he raised was a sack of shit. He's not from Waterloo. Why are we not looking at them?

His dad died of cirrhosis. Yeah, because he was drinking because he raised a fucking piece of shit. He was bringing my home city's good name down. When did he become JW? Because in here, he was just John Gacy. And I originally, when he became JW, thought that W stood for Waterloo. I thought it was John Waterloo Gacy. You're right.

But then we learned. Remember, because we did learn there for a bit. We were hot on this. Like, oh, Waterloo, Waterloo. And then Ty got the fire hose out and was like, calm it down, boys. Calm it down. He's from everywhere else. Now John Gacy, first chef, guy who runs the morning meal and the afternoon meal at that KFC in Waterloo, Iowa. He's from Waterloo, Iowa.

That's tough stuff. That's tough. It's going to be hard to forget about that, but we will because we know you and the other good people of Waterloo do not deserve this type of representation. I appreciate that. I just don't want that to get... It did sound like you were claiming the double down though out of Waterloo as if it was something you were proud of. It's a great sandwich.

It was a genius idea. It was a great sandwich. It was a genius idea, but again, he didn't even buy these fucking KFCs himself, so how do I know that there isn't some unheralded cook somewhere that he just took all the credit for? And killed and put in the sandwich. Well, no, because he doesn't have any bodies in Iowa. We don't know that.

Unconfirmed. I'll take that to my grave. No bodies in Iowa. Those are all in Illinois. Just wait for episode four. All right, let's talk about sports. 10 Diggs is here. One half of the hammer.

Done! Cowboys. We have something very interesting today when it comes to the gambling ranks, and that's odds that we will not be able to bet on, but we do know of. So the Debo Samuel news of him asking for his trade from the San Francisco 49ers yesterday came out of nowhere to all of us. I mean, honestly, it felt like the best offseason of all time couldn't get any better. How could it get better?

Oh, how about like 50% of the offense for the NFC Championship team, back-to-back-to-back-to-back years of the San Francisco 49ers? Deebo Samuel saying, I don't want to be here anymore. Get me the hell out of here. This following, Adam Schefter basically telling the world on ESPN via Akash Navarathan's tweet where he said that Adam Schefter said that the Niners would give him the contract. We all know what the contract is.

It is what it is. They would give him the money today if they had to or tomorrow if need be. But Debo's the one that's kind of put a halt to this entire thing. So that kind of raised some speculation because that made us think about Lamar in Baltimore. That made us think about other potential contract situations on why would somebody not want the money right now oh it must mean they don't want to be there it was our initial thought and then it came out debo does not want to be in san francisco debo also does not want to be a running back anymore he just wants to be a traditional wide receiver i wonder if that has come because the niners told him they weren't going to pay him for his running back duties. So he and his agent, Toby McGuire,

Toby Darby, Gandy, Tony Darby, Jerry McGuire, Tori, Tori, Tori Danby of CAA, who also represents T DK Metcalf and AJ Brown. I wonder if the reason why he doesn't want to play running back anymore,

even though he's incredibly talented at it. And that was a massive piece of why Debo Samuel has become such a pivotal part of their offense over there is because whenever they made him an offer and this kind of squeaked out whether it's through rapid port or other reporting that would have made him one of the highest paid wide receivers in the NFL but obviously that is not accounting for the running back duties in which he took 60 extra hits on 60 more carries as a running back this past season being electrifying being tough to account for so we think i think personally and i'm gonna have to be pulled off of this uh mightily i think the reason why he is stating and his team is stating

that he no longer wants to be a running back is because he was not offered to be paid for both of his duties one of the highest paid wide receivers and also here's a tax for me to play running back for you guys of an extra 3 million, 5 million a year, whatever he thinks it's worth. That was not even offered. Only the wide receiver numbers were offered and he and his team said, well, I'm not going to take 60 more fucking

big time collisions if I'm not going to get paid for it and I'm only going to get paid for what I do at the slot or what I do outside. So I think that was a business decision that was being made. I assume another team that is in on Debo Samuel and the odds out of FanDuel that we are not able to bet because these cannot be regulated in any other state other than Colorado and they're not going to put it up in Colorado. The 49ers would be favored as the landing for Debo Samuel this upcoming season.

The Jets plus 350. That's the Bob Sala thing. And also they were in on Tyree Kill. So you would think that the Jets would want a weapon, and they know Debo Samuel rather well. Colts plus 400. Here we go. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Here we go. This is the FanDuel Sportsbook's oddsmakers creating odds for this if they had to create odds, even though we're not able to bet on it. So shout out to FanDuel's odds makers making something that doesn't matter to them at all. Saints plus 800. Packers plus 950. Here we go, boys. Chiefs plus 1,200.

Cowboys plus 1,350. Now, the Cowboys are an interesting one because Debo Samuel, he liked the tweet. What? A Cowboys tweet? Yeah, he did. He liked the tweet. Basically putting him to the Cowboys. Getting an update now from the internet world, if you

would like that. He unliked that tweet as well. Oh, no. Because did that give away leverage for Debo Samuel? Everybody thinking he wants to go to the Cowboys or other teams not getting interested or other teams not getting involved. Couple follow-ups here. We don't believe Debo has a no-trade contract or a clause in his contract, so the

Niners could potentially trade him to anywhere we've also heard follow ups that they have all the control they don't want to trade him they're not going to trade him if they don't want to trade him they don't have to trade him it's an interesting situation because I would assume every team in the NFL is excited about getting Debo but you know if you get Debo you've got to give

something up and you're going to have to pay him and if you want him to be a running back which is what we've seen him also play and be dynamic as you're going to also have to pay him. And if you want him to be a running back, which is what we've seen him also play and be dynamic as, you're going to also have to pay him on top of that and wide receiver thing. That's how I view it. I might be wrong. I agree with you 100%. And I think it's rare that a player is universally beloved.

And I think Debo Samuel last year was universally beloved by pretty much every fan base besides probably the ones in the NFC West. And I think that was because of of how he plays and how he is a bowling ball and and he and he was playing that running back position because a lot of the 49ers running backs got hurt last year but i get where he's like if you're only going to pay me run wide receiver money i'm only going to do wide receiver things is there any way that you could put in his contract incentives be like for every 10 carries you get an extra million dollars or something the amount of incentives that are in contracts i think we're kind of exposing now as we go through these contracts being announced like hey he just signed for six years 120 million dollars now the 100 million dollars of that is all have to be earned and blah blah blah

i would assume there's easy ways to add a percentage of run plays bonus yeah you know how much other what happens to the run game if he comes in there, how often does he get the ball behind the line of scrimmage, all those things that they can put in there. But all word out of that camp over the last, what, 13 hours or so is that he just wants to be a wide receiver. He doesn't want to be a running back anymore. It has to be because he doesn't think he's going to be able to get paid

as a running back and also a high-end wide receiver which is good business and that's in the middle of the decisions he's making right now well and the Niners might have added that to the contract like maybe they did change their mind but if he's not going to come to the table at San Fran then it doesn't really matter it feels like it's already kind of a done deal he's not going to be playing in San Francisco next year and if the Jets offer one of their top 10 picks and then you know a couple more in the second and third round, it's hard not to imagine it'll probably end up being the Jets. Bygones can be bygones, especially with money when money is involved.

But Le'Veon Bell said, hey, if he sits out next year, so I guess Lev is just going automatically to what Le'Veon did. Le'Veon Bell is one of the only ones in recent memory who have actually said, yeah, fuck, I ain't playing. I'm going to hold out. Oh, are you? Okay, we'll see you around week four, I i guess whenever you get bored or broke or whatever levy on bells like no i'm gonna hold out i'm gonna go down miami i'm gonna drop an album i'm at an album release party

i'm gonna i'm gonna float around on yachts there's gonna be a lot of thoughts around i'm gonna be on jet skis people are gonna say i gained weight and i'll come back next year and he did by the way and i'm getting more guaranteed money the next year from holding out. He said if Debo doesn't play this year, one thing the 49ers are going to make sure of is to feed someone else the ball and make it seem as if they don't need Debo. When in reality, we all know the truth. But if Debo doesn't play, they'll try and make it seem like the backup is just as good. This is Le'Veon Bell saying this is the bullshit of the NFL. Because Debo, if he does hold out, Debo is basically getting punished for doing too much and helping the team win. Debo just needs to stay out of the backfield. That's Le'Veon Bell saying if they're not going to pay you to take the hits that the

running backs take, don't fucking do it. It's real though. That is a good business tactic. Now, if Shanahan and that offense find somebody else that is a wide receiver and they start hammering him that ball and giving him the ball and they start having a glimmer of the success that Debo was having what Le'Veon Bell is saying is they're going to try to devalue Debo Samuel if he does sit out and leave and I would assume he's saying just like they tried to do to me basically in Pittsburgh I don't know if that's what happened in Pittsburgh. I don't recall that happening, but that would be something that a spiteful team or a spiteful coach or GM would attempt to do because it's probably best for business

to have a wide receiver that can run the ball just like Debo was able to do it, and it makes them look a lot smarter than the player Debo Samuel. Follow-up. If he holds out, that means they wouldn't trade him? Yeah. Yeah. Are we at a time now where people wouldn't just trade somebody? I feel like we are at a time now where everybody trades everybody.

I think so. Especially when you get this close to the draft and a team just does say, fuck it, hey, we'll give you a top ten pick. It's like, all right, well, yeah, let's do it. That's awesome. You can get a replacement so easy. If you get a top ten pick, you're like, all right, well, yeah, let's do it. That's awesome. You can get a replacement so easy. If you get a top-ten pick, you're going to get one of those top-three wide receivers, most likely, too.

Yeah, you think that's a replacement for Debo Samuel? That's what Le'Veon Bell was just saying. That's literally what Le'Veon Bell was just saying, Connor. Definitely not someone that equals Debo Samuel, but they have an unbelievable rookie running back from last year, Elijah Mitchell. If they're just trying to replace him at wide receiver and get that you know five-year contract on a rookie deal like it definitely gives you a little more breathing room than a 30 million dollar maybe 25 million dollar a year debo there's zero chance the colts get them because we got jonathan taylor in the

backfield and but we do need weapons but jarvis landry's still out there odell beckham jr still out there i mean there's a lot of weapons still out there. Not that Debo's market will not be a big one. I feel like a lot of people want Debo on their team. But at this stage, with what they know it's going to cost, I wonder what's going to happen in this whole thing. Go ahead, Tom. Maybe Lev's talking about, so the year that he did sit out in 2018, James Conner went to the Pro Bowl.

Yeah, and you guys fed James Conner. He had 100 less carries than what Le'Veon had the year before but I mean yeah he was the number one running back but then after Lev sat out he never was the same guy or anything well he went to the Jets with Adam Gage make out a stank

went to the Chiefs he was like third string is that his fault I don't know you tell me went to the Bucs didn't he go to the Bucs for a little bit went to the Ravens for a little bit was he on theucs for a little bit? Yeah, a little bit. Went to the Ravens for a little bit. Was he on the Chiefs for a little bit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Third string or whatever. Third string's generous.

He was. What are you talking about? Like fourth, fifth. He made some absolute bangers, though. He did. Speaking of bangers, the Knuckleheads podcast with the guy that's about to join us, Darius Miles, is an absolute banger. And the NBA is in the middle of their Lombardi season right now.

And last night we had some epic clashes. Big time games. Some players disappeared that we thought would maybe rise up. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, 13-year NBA vet, podcast host, legend, Quentin Richardson. What's up, dude? Great, you guys, as always. Hey, man, everybody's saying that the NBA

is creeping into the NFL because the players have more control now. Are you keeping up with any of that? Debo said he wants traded. He's probably going to get traded. Tyreek Hill wanted traded. He got traded. Devontae Adams wanted traded. He got traded. Do you take that as a slight or good business of NBA players? Good business.

Listen, I'm all for players, you know, in all sports, getting their money and getting their jets due. Because we know as players and athletes, once we can't play anymore, all the money from that lane is gone. We've got to find something else. So when you can get it, get it while it's getting its good. Absolutely. Your piece of gum, man, once the flavor runs out,

they will get another piece of gum right in their mouth immediately in all sports uh we appreciate you joining us quentin last night i mean these nba playoffs have been good i mean they have been good and i don't know what it's like uh on a normal basis but just the score of another game up in the top corner gives me a little march madness feel too i'm like okay there's other games going on it's happening every single night let's dive into what happened last night kairi and kd, what happened in the garden? I know Kevin Durant scored 27 or something like that, but Kyrie only had 10 points. We thought that was going to be a big fuck Boston fest. How do you see that one playing out? Listen, I mean, you know, Boston handled

their business, man. I think, you know, a lot is being made of, you know, how KD and Kyrie fared and their numbers and things like that, but I don't think enough credit is being given to, you know, that Celtic team, man. They're doing an outstanding job of throwing a lot of different looks at those guys, KD in particular, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's seeing double teams, he's seeing different

bodies, different size matchups. Ime Udoka is doing a wonderful job, and, you know, obviously the players as well, and to put in that game plan and to effect and execute it the way they have these first two games. It's been like lockdown almost. Is it different? I haven't watched all season.

I should be. And I know they made the rules a little bit harsher after the international rules and what the NBA had become. Is there a lot of other teams that play defense like the Celtics, or are they the number one defensive team in the NBA right now? Yeah, number one in the NBA. I mean, we're seeing that on full display. I mean, they have long, rangy guys, 6'8", 6'7", 6'9", wing players

with long arm spans and stuff like that. And then when you get to the Al Horfords and the Dan Theises, these are big men, 4'5", that, you know, can move their feet and can switch out onto perimeters and guard for three, four, five seconds in a switch at the end of the clock situation. So, I mean, you're seeing Jason Tatum step up and show he can defend a lot more than he was given credit for. Jalen Brown has been known as a great two-way player.

And, you know, Marcus Smart is the first guard to win defensive player of the year since Gary Payton. So, they're just playing all of that right now. I still don't think the series is over. I think going back to Brooklyn, you know, we're going to see a different KD, a different Kyrie, and I think they probably get game three. Can defense win a championship in the NBA? I think defense is always a part of winning championships.

It's never not prevalent. I mean, I think it's probably underrated or underscored or, you know, kind of outshined by a great offensive performance. But whatever team normally wins, they always play great defense. A guy that loves the Celtics, obviously. Connor, I got a question for you. Yeah, Quinn, I have to ask because I, like you, think that Brooklyn and KD are probably going to figure it out. Like, how many different looks do they show him on, like, a game-to-game basis? Like, there going to be a massive changeup going into Saturday for the Celtics against KD? Or has he already seen everything and now he just kind of has to adjust his game?

I think that's the great thing about the strategy that Boston is throwing at him. It's like even when you've seen it, they're not giving him a consistent diet of anything. Like he may come down a couple possessions and get a double team, and then the next possession they play him straight up with just shading and help. So it's like they're doing a lot of different things, and they're executing it in a great way to kind of keep him off balance

and keep him from finding a groove and getting used to them doing this or that. That's why I say the strategy is so good because they're not staying consistent. They're switching it up. They may go back to it or come back to this or that, but they're throwing them off balance. They're not giving them four, five, six plays of the same thing in a row. So who has to step up? They're role players for the Nets? Is that kind of how that goes? Like in the NFL,

if you double a guy, it's almost like, alright, this guy is just being deemed out of the fucking game. Like maybe even a triple. Like defenses can do that. So everybody else has to kind of lift their is that kind of what has to happen for the Nets? Or do you just think KD will figure it out and be able to do what he has to do even though he's getting fucked with?

I think KD and Kyrie will figure it out. I think they have to. I think when you look – when you talk about some of the role players, you think Bruce Brown had like 20-something points. He played – Hey, Bruce. Hey, Bruce. He played great as a role player.

That's like all gravy train if he's going to get you 20-plus points. So, I mean, at the end of the day, I mean, we all know that KD and Kyrie are two of the most talented players on the planet, and the team is only going to go as far as they take them. So, ultimately, they have to step up and be big time like they always have been, and I think they will. Man, I hope so because watching last night was kind of a – they had a big lead there.

All right, here we go. This is going. It was tough to watch. Cause watching last night was kind of a, they had a big lead there. Here we go. This is going. It was tough to watch. Yeah. And it was four 20, obviously. So we're all doing our own different things. I bounce away.

I come back to the game and it's like down four. All right, this is getting good. Then I ended the third quarter. I think I, I lost attention again. I want somewhere else. I came back.

You guys are up like eight or seven with like five minutes. I'm like, what the fuck happened? did kevin durant and why was kairi not flipping off these boston scumbags what do you feel like what do you it was a different kairi right did it feel like a different kind of the thing that they reported about kairi is he's he's he's uh doing ramadan right now so he had an eight and you could see see at one point when the sun set or whatever, the sun went down, I guess that was like now he can go have something. He ran to the back immediately and got some food and started trying to –

that's tough to go there. They said it was like 13 and a half hours with no food or water. Then you come into a high-pressure game like that. That's a – you know, as an athlete, you need your energy and your nutrition going into those games. And for him not to have it, I think we saw the effects of that last night because we know when Kyrie, I mean, we saw him the first game. We know what type of energy he had for that crowd.

So, I mean, it was something that was holding him back from showing up in that way. I'm surprised he didn't pass out. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. When they reported it, I was like, no way. I was like, no way I could do this. Start seeing some stars.

Start seeing some stars real quick. And then, like, all of a sudden, boom, you're just down. Especially because the amount of adrenaline that has to be running through there. Exactly. Wow, that's wild. I mean, hey, if it's going to get you to heaven or whatever. That's right. You got to do what you got to do.

You got to do what you got to do, I guess. I don't know. I think God would be okay with you not being malnourished. Yeah, the most dying out there. But, hey, I don't know. I don't know the religion well enough. I don't know any religion well enough. But nonetheless, go ahead, Tone.

Q. Rich, one of the most fascinating things to me about the NBA playoffs is you see Philly blow out Toronto games 1 and 2, and then they got a win on a buzzer beater. You see Memphis lose to Minnesota game 1, and then they blow them out game 2. Same guys, same ball is it like is it motivation is it just making shots is it is it home court like what's how come you see these big fluctuations as far as like game scores man I think sometimes that that's why the game has to

be played man we as athletes know like that's why you go into the game knowing that you got a chance you never know like some days you get up and you don't feel your greatest you don't feel the best as though you know you can't you think yourself like not today like you want to feel your greatest but like sometimes that's just what happened like sometimes guys don't make shots these games you know i'm saying like for the minnesota memphis series minnesota came out and played a great game memphis could have been overlooking them or anything or whatever you want to call it, but they came back the second game and showed up the real Memphis. You know, but like to me, that's the great thing about sports in general because, you know, stats are stats.

And, you know, people think what they think and opinions are this and it's favorites and rankings and all that. But you still got to get out there and play the game every time. Hey, you got to show up and And literally, past performances cannot predict future outcomes. You have to do it every single time. Even the goats, like Adam Vinatieri. Adam Vinatieri, I got very lucky to work with him every single day. Every single day, it was like it was either his last day kicking or his first day kicking. It was like nothing matters.

I've hit the biggest kicks of all time. But today, that does not matter. If I miss four kicks right now, people say that I stink. It's crazy that some people are able to flip into that mode, and some people aren't. That's a maturity process, I think, don't you? Isn't that a maturity throughout basically becoming a

professional? Yeah, I think those guys that figured that out, I think that's what made LeBron so great for such a long time. He was somebody that figured that out from the very beginning of his career, and he was able to translate that to, like, you know, look at what he's doing now, redefining what a prime is and still performing at this high level because he's not, you know, resting on however many championships or whatever he's done in the past.

He's still chasing greatness, trying to become the all-time leading scorer with Kareem, and the only way you can do that is to have that type of mentality. And then you find yourself at the steps of these great feats and things like that because he went about it that way for so long. Chicago Bulls,

Alex Caruso, best player of all time. How they doing out there? Giannis is an animal, man. Hey, he is awesome to watch play basketball. He's just, it's literally like a hungry, hungry. That oop to himself off the backboard. That thing, if that's any other human, is shooting back to half court. He gets his hands up somehow and grabs that thing.

He could become, right? He's only getting better and better and better and better and better for the Bucs. He's a creative player. Every time you watch him play, you're like, what is happening out here? The way he dunks the ball like how we dunk a Nerf rim in our kids' room or something. That's how he does the real NBA basket. It doesn't even look funny. Either hand, left hand, boom, right hand, boom.

It's just like we've never seen. Like you say, he has a chance that by the time he finishes, he's going to be somewhere as long as he stays healthy and has that longevity, he's going to be somewhere at the top of a lot of these all-time lists and things like that too because he has a relentlessness and a motor and the way that he competes and plays hard every single night, he's going to do nothing but yield all kind of crazy stats throughout his whole career.

Go ahead, Ty. Q Rich, we've seen all these videos of Zion in workouts having these explosive dunks. And by all reports, he wants to play. And I don't think anyone thinks that they have a shot. But where's the disconnect there between him and the Pelicans? Do you think there's any chance he's going to play the remainder of this series? Or how does that whole thing shake out? Don't they want to get him in the Pelicans? Do you think there's any chance he's going to play the remainder of this series? How does that whole thing shake out?

Don't they want to get him in a competitive game? I would think so. But I mean, I literally like – the thing that I don't like about the whole Zion and Pelican situation is that we have to go off not solid information. We have to basically guess what's going on and and hypothesize about what's happening not really know because me as a player i know that if i'm able to go out there and do dunks like that i want to play why wouldn't i be able to play and you know but then to me as is being in the front office and being a part of a front office in the pro sports

if we if we're keeping him out it's for for a reason. So somewhere along the line, there's a disconnect between what he thinks and what they think and why he's not on the court. But at the end of the day, they could be trying to hold him back and do something for his own good because you haven't played it all year. You can't go and just crank up to what we've seen Zion be. That's setting himself to re-injure himself all over again if he's not built himself physically up to the point to be able to withstand the pounding that it takes

to go out there and compete at that level. And we've seen his body fail him when he's not in peak condition. So it's just so many unknowns that it's hard to really say what's going on because we only have so much information, and I don't really know anything about it. So you think Zion might have a false confidence in his ability to go and play in an NBA game right now? Because it is being reported, what, out of his camp

that he's ready to go play, but then the Pelicans have steadfast said, we're trying to ramp him up properly. Is that ramp-up process real? Does it happen with everybody? And do you think Zion has a false confidence, maybe? I think us as young athletes, we always have a false confidence of what we can and how we could go run through a wall.

And I think as far as like the ramp-up thing is a real thing. And it goes on an individual basis. But when you look at somebody like him, you will absolutely feel that he needs, you know, the proper time to get ramped up into things. With the previous injuries he's had, they've all been back, knee, feet. You know what I'm saying? absolutely feel that he needs you know the the proper time to get ramped up into things with the previous injuries he's had they've all been back knee feet you know i'm saying like those type of things you you when you're as heavy and as big and as strong and as powerful and you play the way he does everything is a constant heavy load and explosion off everything and torque

you got to be in prime position to go back and perform at your best and not have anything ailing you because if you do that's going to be something else is to go back and perform at your best and not have anything ailing you. Because if you do, that's going to be something else that's going to backfire on you. It may not even be the same injury, but if you're overcompensating, it's going to be bound to happen and something else is going to happen. Well, we'd like to fucking see him play basketball. Please. I would, too. Because every time you get out there, he's been must-see TV.

When he's on the court and he's healthy, he's been big time. That's the one thing we can say we love. Yeah, like triple-double-king. He's shooting like 65%, 70% or whatever. Just get in the body. By the way, he passes, too. He's got a little magic in there. He does it all.

Hey, magic's got a doc coming out, I guess, a four-parter on Apple TV. I wonder if it'll address how pissed off everybody is about winning time. Hey, have you heard about this? Do you know Jerry West as a human? Do you know him as a human? I don't know him personally, but I've seen every episode they've released, and when I saw Winning Time, that was the first thing that I

was like, yo, what is going on here? These are real humans. They are killing the logo. That was crazy. Hey, real human there are killing the logo. That was crazy. Hey, real human there, by the way. Humans still alive. Real humans being depicted as person.

It's like, I wonder if there's a deal. Have they paid this person to have this? I mean, it is very fascinating. They're not happy about it. I mean, he wasn't the only person. There was a few things where I was like, yo. To have this, I mean, it is very fascinating. They're not happy about it. I mean. He wasn't the only person. There was a few things where I was like, yo. Like, come on, man.

Norm Nixon, the first thing we see, Norm Nixon in the salon with the ladies, and they go and he runs. I was like, come on, bro. What is, what are we doing? Just outing everybody in here. Go ahead, Ty. No, no, no. I'm sorry.

Gump, gump. Go ahead, gump. Yeah, Q Rich, a lot of people think the pelicans got a shot at beating the suns now do you agree with that or do you the warriors are now the favorite do you think the suns will be all right without booker for a little bit here uh they should be the sun should be okay without booker but like we said earlier you know you got to play the game and i know that you know new orleans getting that one game and they're heading back home where it's going to be. You can believe that that gym and that arena will be packed.

And them New Orleans fans are outstanding. So they're going to come ready. But, I mean, the team's constructed as they are. The Suns should be able to withstand it. I think CP will be able to rally the troops, and they should be able to still pull out the series and win it without D. Booker. And hopefully they get them back next round. But I know that the Pelicans, they aren't able to still pull out the series and win it without D. Booker, and hopefully they get them back next round.

But I know that the Pelicans, they aren't going to go easy. CJ, Brandon Ingram, and the rest of them boys, they're going to give it their all. Imagine if they had Zion. Oh, jeez. Anyways, we'll move on. Golden State, Steph says, I'm fucking back. Pool is in the Splash Bros conversation now. What's stopping them?

Nothing? fucking back pulls in the splash brothers conversation now what's stopping them nothing I mean you know right now this is this is a favorable series for them I mean I think they should definitely you know breeze through this series and then we'll see when it gets to next to the next one but I don't think it's going to be you know like as easy as this has been for them but

I think they're in they're in a great position man when you got Steph Curry a healthy Steph Curry a healthy a healthy Clay Thompson you got Draymond you got Steph Curry, a healthy Steph Curry, a healthy Klay Thompson, you got Draymond, you got the big three back, then you add what you've got. You know, you got Wiggins and Poole playing how he's playing. I think they have as good a chance as any, but that's the best thing about the NBA this year. I think it's pretty much wide open.

I think it's a wide range of teams that could really win the championship. Everybody but the Celtics are saying the whole thing. Well, you know, we know that we'll be there. Well, the defense is number one in the league. Jeez Louise. It's 2022. Offense wins championships. Whenever you think about Drake maybe winning a million

dollars because he bet on Golden State coming out of the West, how did he get that good of odds? Was Golden State not this team? Because Steph coming back a couple games ago felt like it was big news. Was he out that long? And were people really down? Because they are making this look like, to your point, very easy.

They look exactly like the old school Golden State squad that everything that left a hand was going into the bucket. Have they been this hot for some time, or is this just kind of they're catching their peak right now almost? Yeah, I think this is just right now they're hitting their stride because, like you said, I think the odds probably dipped down because Steph was out for probably like five or six weeks going into the playoffs.

But I think anybody that knows basketball, man, Steph, when those guys are healthy and if they get a chance to get some practices in and things like that, we see. I mean, that's Steph Curry coming off the bench, man. Like, my goodness, that's crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like, to have that type of a superstar who's the best shooter ever and, like,

you know, he's that selfless to say, it's cool, I'll come off the bench, and then you still see Jordan Poole go out there going crazy. And, like, that's what makes that team so scary, and you can actually see them advancing and doing that because they, they all just play to win. And it's not about this guy's going to that guy's going, anybody could score a 30 points and it's all good. Hey,

do you know Steph personally? A little bit. Not really, but a little bit. He said curse word on TV there. He said, I'm fucking back. What are you doing? Steph? That ain't a holy moly operation. He's like, He said, I'm fucking back. Steph. Kids are watching.

What are you doing, Steph? That ain't a holy moly operation, man. That's how you know that he's part of that. He's really got the killer in him, though. He's part of that club of those assassin type guys that when it comes to this, everything, this is what it's all about to him. You see him going to those different type of modes he's for real one of those assassin type athletes

yeah those first batch of shoes and everything were so bad it was tough to like get behind him and then all of a sudden the bucket just seems to be bigger for him

than everybody else and it seems to be on a regular basis then he does start producing like holy moly and everything like wow this guy's a mogul and now he's swearing. I mean, I'm a fucking big fan.

This is what a baby face turn this is for Steph Curry and Myers. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Quinn, another thing from winning time was how brutal it is playing in the garden, and obviously we saw that on Sunday with Kyrie. Have you played there before, and is it as bad as they kind of depicted it on the show? Yes. So the thing was when we first got in the league,

you already knew when you went to the garden that you were going to have to take a cold shower after the game. For a fact. No hot water. You was taking a cold shower. Oh, what a trash. And, like, you know, the fans were exactly how you said. You could go to a dinner, go somewhere at dinner.

You might have somebody say something to you or be, you know, like MFing you or whatever. You're like, yo, what's going on? But it was really like that, especially like that was early 2000. Like, yeah, it was still real at the guard. Yeah, the game is tomorrow. I'm trying to have some chicken. Calm down.

I'm not in this fucking city, Paul. What a terrible place Boston is. You know, strategy and stuff like that. Just trying to win the game. Hey, they're like that in all sports, by the way. Like, the Patriots obviously had that 20-year run, so they had reason to be as ridiculous as they were, too. So they were a confident, pompous bunch who had the wicked Boston lingo.

They were ruthless up there in football. I think that's only going to continue, and I hope so. It's only good for sports. As is the Knuckleheads podcast. And you joining us, man, you're always awesome. We appreciate you. Anytime, fellas, man. I have a blast every time.

All right, enjoy the NBA Lombardi season, ladies and gentlemen, Quentin Richardson. Yeah, Quentin! The Talks Table is here at Ty Schmidt from Waterloo, Iowa, home of John Wayne Gacy. At Boston, Connor also here from Boston, the home of the Celtics, who have seemed to really just do whatever they wanted to

to the Nets. The Nets were up a lot. I don't know what happened. I'm on the Nets heavy, by the way, because I'm a big Kyrie Irving guy now and Kevin Durant, absolute dog.

Love that team. Not that I don't love Golden State, too, because it seems like they're shooting to bigger buckets, but that Nets team, really, I thought it was going to be... Chicago Bulls, obviously my team,

because Alex Caruso smokes that fucking... Big night. Smokes that straight fire. Yeah, he's been balling, dude, obviously with the double headband on with the ball. I mean, he's absolutely killing it. But I'm a Nets fan in the Celtics series. No offense to the Celtics. I just, hey,

whatever the case, what's going on up there? Well, none taken. I understand the Nets love. I mean, they're a cool team. Steve Nash is cool, too. But you forget, you know, Jason Tatum also happens to be a dog. And so is jaylen brown also a doug i mean we are a very very good defensive basketball team and that's just something i think that we're all finding out you guys are good at the basketball we're very good at basketball

we play really good defense and you know our head coach emil duca he's very good basketball coach so i feel very good about our chances. You guys could be champions of the basketball. There's a chance we are champions of the NBA. It is very exciting right now to be a champion from Boston. Bruins stink.

Well, we're going to play. Oh, you just reminded me. Bruins penguins tonight. I completely forgot until you said that. Well Bruins-Peds tonight. What's that? Bruins-Penguins tonight. I completely forgot until you said that. No, hockey's over. Well, it's over for you. No, hockey's over. It's over for you because Posta's coming back and he's scoring 18 goals tonight.

He's not going to be a champion tonight. He's a champion. Who is playing goalie for the Pittsburgh Ponglins? Tonight, it will be Casey DeSmith. Who the fuck is that guy, huh? This guy's bad at goalie. Swiss cheese. Versus Jeremy Swayman, who has not been strong lately.

Oh, okay. But Swayman's greatest. Give us Louie. Louie DeMing. Where's Louie DeMing? You might see Louie on Saturday against those bum-ass Red Wings. Oh, yeah. Hockey's over.

Oh, yeah. Hockey is way over for the Red Wings. Garbage can't compete with the Red Wings. We got potentially way over for the Red Wings. We got potentially Louis coming back who we do have to update a couple facts, I believe. Louis is not of Latin descent, correct? Louis is French-Canadian.

Oui. So whenever you called him Johnny Lasagna... Yeah, I thought he was dying because Louis Domingue. That wasn't right. He's French- Lasagna. Yeah, I thought he was dying because Louis Domingue. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, that wasn't right. He's French Canadian. Okay, good.

No. Okay, so there's no Johnny Lasagna. Okay. Louis Baguette. No, it's called Louis and Flaga, dude, because old cuzzy here about to catch fire. Yeah. The old buddy Casey Smith's going to do what he's going to do against you guys tonight, DeSmith.

And then they're going to put Louis in there. And guess what? It's headstanding time. Maybe. They might not put Louie in. I mean, Casey Smith's a fake name. It's DeSmith. He's been there all year long. It's not a real name either.

Unlike the goalie that left. You give us two goalies? You give us two goals tonight? Yeah, give us two goals tonight. Perfect. We're in. Let's go. 2-0 to start the game. We'll win 8-2. There's a chance that does happen. We got a guy that can't play goalie playing goalie. Joining us at time digs, one half of the hammer.

Dad! Dad. Why don't – you know how NFL teams have to have a plethora of weapons at wide receiver because late in the season some weapon gets hurt and they have enough to just back it up and not fall off at all? You know what the Pens need to do? What's that? We need to just back it up and not fall off at all. You know what the Pens need to do? What's that? We need to just get 10 goalies.

So when they all get hurt, doing whatever the fuck happens, we just got the goalies. Because whenever hockey starts to matter, our goalies don't know how to play goalie. And that's a problem in the sport of hockey. Could have traded for Flyer entire season. Well, I may have been misled, but I thought Louis Domingue was basically like Von Miller going to the Rams,

saving the season for the Stanley Cup. He might be. Listen, Louis can get very hot, but Louis has also been prone to get very, very cold. Well, that's the thing. We don't need to think about the ice. We need to think about the fire that's coming from Louis. Joining us now is a super optimistic guy. Guy who is a... Louis to me is a...

Louis is going to fucking go. Louis to me is a fucking bum. I just looked him up. He's very handsome. Yeah, of course he is. He's an unbelievable goalie. He's about to win a Stanley Cup championship with the Pittsburgh Ponglands.

One of those pads in smooth cream. Louis is up to something. Smooth cream. Louie's up to something about smooth cream. So good. Anyways, join us now. A man who's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup champion, COVID survivor. And absolute legend, AJ Hawk.

Yeah! AJ! How you doing, man? What's up? Yeah, I want to sit here and I want to see Connor do like five different accents in one sentence. No, that was all just one. That was all one. That was all one.

That was all one accent. Oh, which one is it? Well, it's Canadian. Yeah, it's a Canadian accent. Don't you know. Come on. Also, Green Bay's we learned from Carl there. Carl, that Green Bay, Wisconsin accent was super serious.

I saw that. Was he yelling at his boss? Yeah, it seemed to come very quickly, too. Yeah, interesting. I mean, good energy. Could have been a full gaze, though. Felt like that one was staged. Yeah.

But I liked his energy. Love, love. He was all in. At least he was all in, though. He wasn't just tiptoeing into it. Agreed. 100% agree. Shouts Carl.

Might not be his name. Who knows? Yeah, true. But it was a good call. Good energy. Up to something. Season's heating up i'm assuming you're answering you're the leak behind everything uh that's going on everywhere i'm the

leak yep i know everything that's happening behind the scenes there pmi isn't that awesome aj has no idea what's yeah right you have no idea you legitimately have no idea no i think it's probably better that way unless one of the boys have told you i've not told aj literally anything i hate that guy well every time I try to talk to him, he doesn't answer. True. I called you back last night. We did chat last night. That was cool. There's so many times where I go to call AJ

with a question that I have immediately, and I like to FaceTime just to see what type of thing he is. What is he dealing with at the moment? Because I don't get to see the life of having five kids or whatever. Never fucking answers. Are you even kidding me? Not a chance.

What are you even thinking about doing? And then I move along, and then guess what? That thought is gone. That thought could have been a good one. You're right. That thought could have been a good one too. That thing's gone forever. AJ, I would just like to let you know that I wish we could have told you

what we're up to, but it was just impossible to do so, pal. I guess you're right. You don't want to text it either because then it's in writing, so I get it. Well, of course, with you Ohio State folks. You got to be careful. You never know. What's happening in Ohio State? Well, just finger gun time.

Yeah. Pooping the fingernails. You know what I mean? They added to the name of the restaurant, right? Yeah, and Finger Gun Store. Store. Yeah, you can pick them up right at the bar. Show no one to the bar.

Right next to the dance floor. That's right. Show no one to the bar. No way that gets topped this NFL season, right? What, Urban Mario? No way. It's the NFL, dude. Something's coming.

You just wait. Not unless Mike McDaniel's smoking a doobie on the sideline or something like that. That'd be sweet. Which he might. He might. Hell yeah. Where they're playing in California, and he's literally just smoking a...

Third down. To a draw. You ever know, fucking Ben McAdoo may whip his penis out and start pissing at midfield. Who knows? We don't know if Ben McAdoo would do that. I don't know why. I mean, MCDC could definitely be smoking cigs with some band that's in Detroit one night if someone gets them.

Yeah, not on. That still wouldn't be as weird as Urban. Yeah, the Urban Meyer stuff is wild. That was after a Thursday night football game? Yeah, Thursday night football game in Cincinnati. Said he had to go see the Grandbabies. I can't. What a wild scene.

I wish I was on that team. You scene. I wish I was on that team. You know, I wish I was on that team. Just so you can get, like, a full perspective on it all. I'm sure they're very happy to move on. And I bet Urban Meyer is, too. Just kind of jot it down as a loss for all parties. But I'm excited to see what happens next in the NFL. Speaking of, Debo, he wants to be a traditional wide receiver, AJ.

He doesn't want to be a running back anymore. I feel like this has probably come from the fact that the Niners told him nobody's going to pay him plus running back money because he probably wants to get paid in the big-time wide receiver market, which, by the way, hey, well-deserved. Do what you got to do. You're a talented wide receiver on a very good team that has used your assets to get to the top

and probably sell more merchandise and make more money in headlines and primetime games, whatever you got to do. But as soon as he is probably under the assumption that he is deserved to be paid some sort of running back money as well, because he had 60 rushes last year and they said, no, nobody's going to do that. I wonder if that's why he said, well, I'm not fucking going to be taking those unneeded hits if I'm not never going to get paid for now that is obviously just a strictly business-minded person thinking like that but that is how he has to be at the current moment I do you think that is what took place or do you think it is legitimate like he's sick of having to prepare for multiple positions basically yeah it might be it might be like as he he tries to

like forecast he wants to have some longevity in the league and he knows like hey I if i'm taking these these hits as a running back in this slot receiver and doing everything else i won't be able to play as long as i want but also schrags made it sound like hey this is just part of the negotiating process didn't he when i was like yeah he said yeah you know it's just you ask for a trade it's part of it like he acted like it wasn't that big a deal i feel like yeah because he mentioned previous situations where people weren't happy and then the niners ended up paying them later and it worked out or something like that yeah the george the kiddo thing he said well there was like a the crazy offer that they threw out at first i guess yeah the april valentine's day massacre was what were you gonna say massacre right you know what he said yeah i think so yeah yeah yeah by the way we're doing it right now huh

oh yeah is that a 50 album mean, that's a deep pool. What's that? That's a 50 cent album. I'm sure it's been used in many other. I think he was just saying, like, it may have ruined their relationship or whatever. Yeah. Did it? I don't remember.

Did George get over publicly? No, he ended up signing and being fired. He ended up signing. It happened with Trent Williams, too, before they made him the highest paid left tackle. It's fascinating to see how it all plays out because can bygones be bygones, which is what a lot of people were alluding to yesterday after this whole thing happened. The Niners don't have to trade him, and then if they just pay him,

can they just get past it? I think so. Right? Don't you think so? A lot of people, though, it's separate. If they have issues with the front office people and negotiate and they have to hold out, whatever, not show up, a lot of times the second that person gets back in the facility they're everyone is so happy to see them and the coaches get it every coach understands hey man i understand you got to take care of

yourself and your family yeah and you thought this was going to be the best manner for you to do so like the whole thought that debo and them can't come to an agreement it would have you if you're debo though i think you're 100 right in taxing for the running you know like if you're Debo, though, I think you're 100 percent right in taxing for the running. You know, like you're taxing my body. Does that mean, though, he gets he's paid like equal to the highest receiver contract that's out there right now? And then they add on to it. So he is by far and away the highest paid receiver in the league. Is that what he wants? So I used to have these conversations when I was young in the league, you know, and I thought maybe because I don't think any of us knew what Adam Vinatieri was going to do when he got hurt my rookie year, how long he was

going to be around, and he was going to be able to kick for another 15 years after that because he's Adam Vinatieri. I think there were some conversations, and I was like, if I was to punt and kick, which was at one point what I wanted to end up doing in the NFL, I wanted to do both, I'm like, I started doing the math out loud. I'm like, well, they're going to have to pay me if I do well for top boom and top boom that's awesome like this is gonna be cool and then somebody brought me back down to earth and they're like well that's certainly not something now it's gonna go that is certainly not they're gonna they're gonna categorize you as one pay you and then you'll get some incentive based stuff on the other stuff that you'll be able to earn that would

not be the max amount probably you know like, like that probably would have been right. I never made it to that point. Adam Vinatieri outlasted me and my knee gave out. And I would have never been able to do it probably. But that whole conversation really brought me back down to earth with like an OG that was like, that's not how that's going to go. So I would assume it's just going to be incentive-based taxes almost on how many rushes, how many carries.

incentive-based taxes almost on how many rushes, how many carries. Like maybe if the rushing offense is better by a certain percentage whenever he's on. You know, like there's ways and stats and analytics that you can build in all those incentive-based. That sounds like an answer, right? Doesn't it? I don't know. I might be wrong.

I'm sure they're trying. Believe me, I bet the Niners are trying every creative way they can to try to make things okay or just try to talk to him, really, I guess. I would assume they're talking to his agent, though, right? Are you talking about old Tony Dansby? Yeah. Got a lot of big-time clients. Tony Darby.

Tony Darby. You hear it every time, yeah. It's tough because for some reason, like, Tony, is his name Tony Darby? It's Dondy. Dondy, like the Dondy line. Tory Dandy. Tory Dondy.

Feeling Dondy. Tory Dondy. Thatorey Dandy. Torey Dondi. Feeling Dondi. Torey Dondi. That's on me. That was a tough one for me. I don't know why. I think because I want to send the end. I thought it was Tim. See?

That's much different than what I'm talking about. You're a part of it. It's not Tim. His name is Torey Dondi. Dondi. He's a fucking big-time player in this game, by the way. CA agent. He's repping DK, AJ Brown. He's a fucking big-time player in this game, by the way. He's a CAA agent. He's repping DK, A.J. Brown.

He's got Debo. He had Denzel Ward, who just signed the biggest deal in the history of cornerbacks, with the Cleveland Browns. I mean, he is having quite an – Hey, that guy has up to something season. Yeah, he is. Mr. Tony Dansman. And, like, the ripple, the possible ripple effect, at least.

Like, I don't know about DK Metcalf, but AJ Brown, you know, he's removed the Tennessee from his bios. Like if Deebo gets traded and gets paid, you think he just goes to AJ Brown? Dondi goes to AJ Brown and says like, hey, just work for Deebo. Like do you want to do the same thing here and we kind of get you paid somewhere else possibly? Or what do you think?

People are having success too. So we're looking at a lot of the high draft guys a lot of them have transferred from other schools where they weren't really having success so a lot of it is is very fascinating to me like that's very different than what it used to be like i feel like the moving and winning is something that happens yeah and the moving and having success is something that happens. There's a lot of blueprints. Like, hey, if you're to get up and go somewhere else that they're going to use you and they have a deficit at, like, it is going to work out for you.

You're either going to go on to become a top pick if you transfer. That's why the transfer portal is so big. Or for guys in the NFL, like, hey, moving is the right move. Guys move and they have immediate success. Guys get paid. Guys get new opportunity they become a much bigger focal point they have much bigger say in what goes on and people are having success i think this is going to become something very serious like you said you think

debo is going to ask aj brown about it i think that's going to be i think it's going to start happening what's the next position i want to know like it's almost like these elite receivers kind of form their own little union group and like all right right, hey, we're going to go make some moves. We're going to make things happen. We're going to take some control. Can we see this happen with edge rushers next maybe? Yeah, D-end, edge rushers, corner, probably another position. Offensive tackles.

Just look at the pace scales. That's all we've got to do, right? We've just got to look at the pace scales. That'll be – I feel like the edge rushers already had their run a couple years ago. I feel like they were the ones that were getting all the money in demand. That's why they're second highest paid or whatever position. Yeah, and then like left tackle even before that or around that same time.

And corner had a run there for a bit. Yeah, when it was Ramsey in like ex-Howards first contract. Because I remember the internet doing all the different positions like, here's me teaching my kid how to backpedal or something like that when the corners were all getting paid gilmore was in that same when he got paid by new england he left byron jones yeah nom de awesome wall yeah there you go hey it's an old school one eagles right eagles raiders to eagles didn't play as well who paid him eagles eagles he got a monster deal monster

monster and he also got into movies and stuff too, right? Yeah, he's an actor now. He's married to an actor. Hey, I met him once, I think. I think. How'd it go? Well, I'm trying to remember if it was him or not. Did he do plays or something like that?

He did some plays, right? Broadway, I think. Like theater acting? Did you happen to see him in a play that you were attending? No, no, no. I was getting boozed up with him at something. I had a conversation with him and he said he was doing it. But I don't remember if it was him or not. Is he as good as

Vernon Davis? I don't know. He didn't like... Yeah, Vernon's in movies, right? Vernon's in a bunch of movies. He's done 10 movies, but he was also on TV that one time. He cried on the spot. Tell you what, man. I give him credit for that

me too that's good um it's great like i bet actors that watch that are like okay this guy's for real well he got like 10 roles yeah the last time we talked to him he was filming a movie every single month for the next like four years or something yeah yeah he's in a lot of projects yeah he's like guy number four and like six of them but he he is getting a lot of experience and roles. And he can turn it on. Why don't you say that to James Harrison, Ty? What do you mean? James is acting.

James Harrison was the fucking one of the main characters in Heels or whatever it was on Star Wars. He's a serious too. Yeah, he said he's a – yeah, we talked to him, AJ. I know. That's what I'm saying. I'm impressed with how these guys dive in. I can't just mail it in and be good.

They know I want to be great at this. Well, they've seen what it's taken to have success in the past, and they just apply that to a new profession. That's why I'm so pumped for the modern-day retired athlete. I am very excited. I forget who we talked to about this just very recently. I don't know. Anytime a retired player does well, though, I'm happy for them.

You know what I mean? I agree. Yeah, we need less old drunk guys yelling and saying how tough it was when they played. Yeah. And I'm talking about my generation, too. Believe me. I'm in that world. Yeah, I have some friends as well that retirement was not that great.

And it was a very interesting era there for a few people, and it was like, oh, God, I'm happy we're not. That 80% broke thing was alarming. So, hey, if Norm the Awesome was killing it, I'm happy for him. Yeah, hell yeah. Keep going. Absolutely. And Vernon Davis, he's going to be action hero one day.

Yeah, next to Will Smith. Well, Will Smith might be dead, but not Vernon Davis, he's going to be action hero one day. Next to Will Smith. Well, Will Smith might be dead, but not Vernon Davis. Will Smith's coming back to life more than we've ever seen. Vernon Davis had seven projects in 2022. Weapon. That's what I'm saying. Guy's working. That's what I'm saying.

He's acting all day, every day. It's kind of weird timing for Will, bad timing for Will to smack Chris Rock with that weird, you know, with the slippery shoes on too because when you win an Academy Award, that's when your price is all-time high for great movies too. And now, is he doing anything? So you do agree that his footwork on that smack made no sense, especially as somebody who had to train a little bit of boxing. But it's weird though.

I've seen videos of him slapping people from earlier in his life and he has similar movements. Because, you know, if he was training as Ali, you would think like when you're slapping people from earlier in his life and he has similar movements because you know if he was training as ali you would think like when you're slapping somebody you don't want to move your point which foot wait which foot slipped out though i think it was his front left foot like i see it move backwards as he was smacking and that's like the complete opposite of momentum is he southpaw maybe yeah maybe he didn't, though, but it's got that shiny stage, and he has brand-new, probably rented dress shoes on.

And I would imagine he was a little bit in his brain. He was a little bit fired up. He was a little upset. Yeah, so you think he lost his fundamentals a little bit. His torque was serious. He had some serious torque. He didn't realize, hey, I don't have good footing. Should have worn golf shoes.

That's why a lot of people were saying it was a work. I thought so. I texted multiple people that I felt like would know. And they're like, I don't know. I think this is real. Who are the people that you think would know? Tom Cruise, Barack Obama. You have those numbers? Pretty good people.

When did you get Cruise on? Top Gun's coming out. Pretty good. You're just texting? You're just texting President Obama? Yeah, I didn't get anything back. Yeah, okay.

Just sending it out there. Is that that sign up or text me thing like on his app? Yeah. I tried to. I went into Aaron's phone

last time I saw him. I tried to steal it from his contact list. He was at the game last night. Have a good time. Oh, yeah. You are a menace, dude. An absolute menace.

Yeah, out there living. The National Parks thing that he has out there on Netflix, I guess. Text him, love him, though. People love it. People love it. Let's talk about some other stuff going on. Patrick Peterson and Chase Edmonds talked about the Kyler Murray situation on the All Things Covered

podcast brought to you by CBS Sports. That is normally hosted by Patrick Peterson and... Brian McFadden. Another defensive back. Long time stealer. And also employee of CBS Sports, I believe. He does work for them. They have a podcast. This particular one was Patrick Peterson and

Chase Edmonds, former running back for the Arizona Cardinals. The way they were speaking about the entire Kyler Murray situation was basically that it's a cultural problem about winning and want to be competitive. It's not surprising to me, bro, to say the least, Edmonds said. I just know, especially knowing how the last two years have ended, meaning 2021 and 2020, and knowing the type of competitor the k1 is and the type of winner that he wants to be i knew there was going to be at some point something's happening especially just because you see the power that quarterbacks have now they hold the weight man

and you got to pay them okay so is that because they had success and they're seeing what other quarterbacks are making and getting paid and what Kyler Murray has done there and what Kyler Murray deserves. They knew a situation was going to brew business-wise between the Cardinals and Kyler Murray. How did you take that there, AJ? Well, when I first saw it, I thought it was more about like the team around him. Like they didn't build up the team around him like they may have wanted. But then the more I look at it, I don't know what the hell it is like who who is the problem is it the coaching staff is the gm the who is the problem i don't know because they were headlining it as if it was a shot at the like culture almost

and they think that it's not a winning culture edmunds who spent three seasons alongside murray before signing with miami this offseason said you could see the frustration ready to boil over at the end of 2021 when the Cardinals finished 11-6 and went one and done in the playoffs despite a 10-2 start. When you see good culture teams in the NFL, like the Baltimore Ravens, New Orleans Saints, the Niners, those teams, no matter how talented they look, bro, from top to bottom, they just somehow find a way to win damn games, Edmund said. Even like Mike Tomlin with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Some teams have that culture and some teams don't. I feel like that's kind of what it was for us.

That's fascinating. So it is definitely talking about the culture not being a winning culture. But then also – But what does that mean though? Is he calling coaches out saying they're not doing enough? What are you doing? Is he calling out the locker room? Is he calling out the coaches?

Is he calling out the players in there? Are they calling out how it's run? I don't know. And I started thinking about the culture earlier because I see, I got to see a culture change with the Indianapolis Colts from a regime that at one point had the winningest decade in NFL history. history. Bill Polian, who was in Buffalo, Carolina and Indianapolis, built a team the way he built a team. And the way he built a team was, hey, he got a group of guys and they stuck around for a long time. I mean, there was a great core there that did a lot for the Indianapolis Colts. And whenever, you know, that turnover happened from that to a brand new GM, first time GM, first time head coach, that decision changed the culture immensely. You know, I mean, the culture became a completely brand new culture. They actually painted over things on the wall of the old culture.

Like I walked in, most days saw some of my friends celebrating on the wall before I ate, you know, a meal. And then all of a sudden it's just a gray wall, okay, and it's a brand new team, okay, nothing ever's a brand-new team, okay, nothing ever happens. Like a culture can change quickly, I think. I think a culture can change quickly, and I think a culture needs just one igniter or two igniters to get it going or on the complete opposite end to do the difference there.

So I don't know who he's calling out. You're right, but I do believe that if it was the case, you can get that changed, I think, personally. Yeah, you absolutely can. But it has to be the right person in the right position, which is usually the quarterback position that has the most kind of pull with the coaches and all the players on the team. But they weren't calling Kyler out at all. They're calling the organization out.

So I'm just like, okay, who are you directing this at? I've been around K-1, Peterson said, Patrick Peterson. He's a competitor. And I feel like no disrespect to the Arizona Cardinals. I feel like they don't put the team in a position to be successful year after year after year after year. And Kyler Murray is not going to sit around and wait for that. Oh, okay.

Is he mad they didn't re-sign Chandler Jones? Maybe. But they did re-sign A.J. Green, right? Yeah, and they got J.J. a lot. And Nuke. It feels like they have done things every year. So maybe this is from before, you know, because Patrick Peterson wasn't there whenever they were sending a plane

up to Wisconsin to meet J.J. on the frozen lake that he had just been sitting in to recover from the hard workout he had. Oh, yeah. What's he been with the Vikings one year? Their owner's not cheap at all, though. It's not one of those things. Well, that's... Is it?

I wonder what their... Well, paying the alleged... What? Delayed bonuses? That's... Whoa, whoa, whoa. That could be part of it. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Slow down. Is that even real? We don't know. Well, a new deal was worked for Cliff Kingsbury, so we assume that all got put. Yeah, and the GM. And settled, yeah. We'll handle this whole thing.

But, yeah, it does seem as of late and i don't know i don't know the history before as of late so i apologize i have taken quite a liking to the city of phoenix in the area so i'm paying attention to the cardinals a lot more it does feel like it's an owner that's all in though from the outside looking in i'm not there i don't know what it's been like in the past i don't know if that's an accurate portrayal of what's going on. But the whole signing and moving. I mean, they traded, what, a bag of balls for DeAndre Hopkins to go try to get him in there.

He's an absolute weapon. Maybe they're talking about more weapons around Kyler Murray, even though they bring back A.J. Green. Kyler's going to get paid. It sounds like they're going to have to pay him soon, in the next week, because he wants to get paid before the draft, he said. Yeah. We've got seven paid before the draft, he said. Yeah. We got seven days until the draft.

It's spectacular. Will the Arizona Cardinals open their pocketbook? Clock's ticking. To Kyler Murray. What's up, Tony? I was trying to think of his weapons. They did let Christian Kirk go, but they probably didn't want to pay him $20 million. Drafted Rondale Moore.

Rondale Moore. Oh, yeah. He's good. He's a monster. James Conner. They re-signed James Conner. I mean, that's three wide receivers. They brought in, they traded for Zach Ertz.

And on the defensive side, they lose Chandler Jones, I guess. But they still got Buda. Buda drafted a corner in the first round. They also traded for Rodney Hudson, Pro Bowl center. So I wonder if this is a very recent development for the Arizona Cardinals. I think, I don't know how much control he had before Michael Bidwell, the owner now, took over from his father in like 2019. Oh, his father.

Oh. Okay. So maybe it is a vastly different run team since the Sun has taken over, which does make sense. And Patrick Peterson, right, was he there during those Arizona one? 2020 was his last year there. So he was there for one year, I guess. He played with Kyler in 19 and 20, right?

He said. I don't know. So maybe it's a completely, maybe they are changing their culture as we speak and it's being called out, which is probably accurate, whatever was being called out. If somebody's taking it like this, his dad ran the team for so long and then you take over, there's naturally going to be different things. You're going to do things much

differently, I'm sure, in different areas. By the way, especially if you're a pilot. I think the guy's his own pilot. He flew his own plane up to pick up J.J. Watt and he's obviously a multi-billionaire. I mean, he's... How'd they make their money? I don't know. It's always interesting to see. How much of this goes on Kyler

too, though? Because he didn't play well down the stretch at all. Hey, listen, I'm a Kyler believer. Me too, but I'm just saying like – And I love FaZe Clan. FaZe Clan. FaZe Clan. Love FaZe Clan.

You should see what he does in those video games, by the way. Fucking sick 360 no-scopes. But it does feel like whenever Duke wasn't on the field, the offense was completely different towards the end of the season. They're going to have to figure it out, though. We need Kyler over there. Okay, and Cliff's offense over there doing his magic. And I'm happy to hear that the younger generation of ownership,

which we're hoping for maybe potentially to start happening more in the NFL, is getting active and changing things and realizing and adapting and going all in. Because that's what you should do if you have a team in the NFL. Because it's the NFL, and the NFL deserves that. Hell yeah. How's Dan Snyder doing? He's really going into the bunker. I mean, that's gone under the radar.

I feel like that disappeared. It definitely didn't disappear. Not from Congress. For us, it did, though. Not from the House. Yeah, but the government never forgets, right? They always got their eye on it. Was it Rap Sheet who said they don't move that fast on these things? They kind of take their time.

So what's the NFL going to do? The NFL's just going to wait for the government to do their thing, and then they're going to follow up and say, Hey, Dan, you know what? We thought we should have done this maybe a year ago or two years ago or ten years ago, but now we've got to do it. You're fucking out. Yeah. All right.

See you later. We're selling this thing to Bezos for 40x what it's actually worth because he is right down the road, and he's going to build a dome over the entire Commonwealth. What's going on, Dan? Doing some digging into the bid wells. Okay. Okay. okay how they make their money pretty awesome okay we like this well i'm not sure how they made their money exactly um

but charles bidwell chuck chuck bidwell he owned the chicago cardinals from 1933 to 46 he was a successful businessman and wealthy lawyer in Chicago with ties to organized crime boss Al Capone. He's a cleaner. This guy was a cleaner for Al Capone. How's the family? Jeez. So, yeah, that's where they started, and that's where they had the Cardinals in Chicago. So I assume they just kept the team, right?

Nick, you said some stuff. Did you read that as well? Yeah, apparently the old man was known for being a cheapskate. And again, I don't know when. The most recent old man, not the current. Bill Bidwell. Not Chuck. Not Chuck.

Chuck does his thing. Bill passed away in 2019. Control went over to his son, Michael, who runs the team now. But I don't know how much Michael was doing day-to-day before that. He may have been running things. Bill may have been title only. You know how those things go. Yeah, I guess.

You know how that should go. I guess. I tried to watch Secession. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You still watching? I kind of fell out of interest with it. I don't know what happened.

Oh, shit. It's a good one, isn't it? Oh, yeah. It's very good. Very good. I think I got in maybe episode three or something like that. Yeah, you got to get to seven or eight. Jesus, why don't these shows, isn't it? Oh, yeah. It's very good. Very good. I think I got in like maybe episode three or something like that. Yeah, you got to get to like seven or eight. Jesus, why don't these shows fucking get to it?

No, I mean, it's good, but then that's one that like- I know, but everybody, you guys always say like, you know, I'm trying to get into these TV show things because it's a lot of fun. You guys enjoy those conversations. It seems like a blast. Mm-hmm. And I can never participate other than just try to learn about what everybody's doing in this show.

Well, that's the thing. The first season of any like new show is a lot of world character building and it doesn't really get to the goddamn plot and that's probably a necessity huh you know how i've gotten into some shows diving in like in the middle of something i tried that with the game of thrones i tried to watch the last episode that was that was way too late that's you can't do that still you tried though you you tried tried diving in the middle if it piques your curiosity. You could be like, oh, I wonder how they got to this point. So then I get a precursor.

Oh, my God. You need to stumble. You need to find them on your own, though. When people tell me how great these shows are, oh, you're going to stick with it? I know there's no chance you're going to watch the show. Oh, you're talking Severance, actually. Both.

By the way, both. They're both going the same exact way Oh, you're talking Succession. I thought you were talking Severance, actually. Both. By the way, both. They're both going the same exact way for me. I turn it on. I would think Succession would be easier for you to watch. I enjoy it. It seems like the dad real fucking. He's the best. Oh, yeah.

It seems like he really gets after it, yeah. He's a pretty good actor. And then Home Alone brother. Yeah. Macaulay Culkin. What a character. His brother. Roman Kieran.

What a character. I saw him on Saturday Night Live, and I thought he had a lot of moxie. I'm like, this guy's got a lot of confidence. I ain't never heard of this dude. And then I watched the session. I'm like, oh, he's good. He's in The Good Son. He's good, this guy.

Oh, yeah. Another great actor. Is he three feet tall? Yeah, probably around there. Good Son is a spinoff to The Good Wife. It's a good show. Macaulay Culkin's a a spinoff to The Good Wife. It's a good show. Macaulay Culkin's a big wrestling guy, Pat.

Oh, yeah. Does he own an organization or something? I met him down there, yeah. I met him at the Super WrestleMania. You should run a program with him. Is that the news? Macaulay Culkin, I'm up to something. Oh, Culkin? Is he still rocking those bunny ears?

Yeah, he had those bunny ears on at the time. That's a shout-out to the ears. He weighs like 105 pounds. Very small, yeah he was very happy though cool it was a good conversation i was happy for him i was happy for him because his parents rip him off and take all his money and he he got he got laws in the books i think got things changed to help protect kids yeah literally nothing i had heard about his life was good i don't know since home alone so then when i saw him at the WrestleMania thing, he was super nice, super cool.

I was like genuinely happy for Kevin. You know? I was like, Kevin, I'm so pumped for you, dude. You did it. Yeah, like good for you, man, because that movie was awesome. Oh, incredible. All of them were great.

So we appreciate you so much. Speaking of rules in the books, because of Macaulay Culkin, there's now a Kenny Pickett rule in the NCAA football rules. If you fake a feet-first slide and the refs deem it as such and you continue to run like Kenny Pickett did, which everybody has probably thought of since the beginning of the slide rule, you are down from the start of where you pump fake the slide.

So you're probably actually losing about three, four yards from where your slide would actually be if you would end up sliding. Anyways, Kenny Pickett, as we all do do recall he does wear gloves on both hands he does sling the rock and he's more athletic than they'll give him credit for the run the scamper that we are alluding to he ran down the middle of the field 25 yards or so goes to act like he's going to slide safety pulls up who is going to hit him then Then he, boop, joking, pops the clutch, pops the gear, hits the gas, and he's gone. And he scores a touchdown. He runs right by a guy.

And it was SportsCenter top 10. It was on every single Bleacher Report highlight, every single highlight on the internet, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and it pissed defensive players off so bad. Yeah. We can't even touch these guys, and these guys are allowed to pump fake us on this thing. We're going to take their heads off next time.

That's like the OG of defenders. Well, that is the only way to combat that if they don't change the rule. Yes, so they had to change the rule. You've got to be scared to death. What I figured, if they didn't change the rule, I'm like, okay, I would assume every D coordinator in college is saying, we don't care. If he's running, we are sailor diving arms back head first you teach them we do not allow this on the field if you fake slide your head might leave your body sailor diving that's the i mean

look i knew they would change the rule because it's true like no one's not many guys are going to try it though like how many people would actually be successful faking a slide so last play of the game let's say like uh or or second last play of the game or like a massive moment there's some situation where some super competitive guy would pull that out you know and i think that is what the ncaa had to get ahead ahead of though anytime i think it's a good rule yeah well especially with the way you just reacted there yeah as a guy who might be coaching this yeah i'm not saying i'm not saying that'll happen or that would happen, but I'm saying there's definitely a lot of defensive rooms where that would

be being talked about. Yeah. Your first thought, actually your first thought, if because your first thought be, if a guy is going around the rules, it's a physical violent game. You have to put,

there's consequences for your actions. It's like anything else. Like I can't sit there and berate some random dude because he should come punch me in the face if i do like there's consequences for your actions yeah you're 100 right and how could because now you're going to get blamed for missing that tackle that safety got embarrassed he was on the wrong side of that highlight for that entire run on the internet and he's basically handcuffed in that situation because it's a quarterback and because the slide's happening and they made a rule change so good for kenny pickett how's he gonna be in the nfl aj i think he's gonna be good i like kenny pick i don't care about his hand size like i like this dude he's a gamer hey when i'm watching the highlights back

from kenny pickett there's a couple throws he makes from like that feels like an nfl type throw right there that looks like an nfl type throw there and now the hand size is going to be something that i know if you're nitpicking that heavily, it's going to either be the reason or be such a laughingstock five years from now. If it actually is a reason, people will shove it in our faces for the rest of all of football coverage. But I feel like he does have a little bit of moxie in there. And there's been a lot of shit talk to him here over these last couple of weeks, almost months during this draft process. He does have moxie.

He feels like a guy you can have a beer with. You like that? Oh, yeah. You want him to be a stealer? Sure, I'll take him. I feel like he's done the beer celebration as well. Oh, yeah. How tall is he?

6'1", 6'2". I don't think he has a tall name. Might be 6'3", but don't underestimate the grit in that man battling through the pitfalls of that pit program. It is a terrible football program. Oh, no, remember that guy gave $25 million to be a part of the head coach. Chris Bickle. Yeah.

Is that his name? Yeah. It's not similar. It's Chris Fickle, isn't it? Bickle. Mr. Bickle? Mr. Bickle. Kevin.

Kevin Bickle. The Kevin Bickle head football coach of the Pittsburgh Panthers. That's the full title. Kevin Bickle? Kevin Bickle head football coach Of the Pittsburgh Panthers That's the full title Kevin Bickle? Is it Chris Bickle? I thought he donated to the USFL To name one of their meetings Chris Bickle, 97

Chris Bickle, class of 97 Head coach of the University of Pittsburgh Panthers football team Pat Narduzzi That, Pat Narduzzi. Pat Narduzzi. That is Pat Narduzzi. That's his title. Narduzzi's a good coach.

That's his card. But they got a lot of money now to use, you know, in the NIL game. And I think they've been getting good recruits. I think they've been doing well in the NCAA. They always have a couple good recruits, and they always send a couple guys to the NFL. But, I mean, it's by no means a college football powerhouse. So, for Pickett to have success there is pretty impressive.

And, you know, I like the fact that Aaron Donald's back there working on every single offseason. I mean, what if – Larry Fitzgerald gives them a lot of good pub, too. That's right. Larry Fitzgerald should have won the damn Heisman. Yeah. What a year he had. Davis.

Shady. Shady. Yeah, I saw him get loose a couple times. James Conner. Darrell Rivas. Yeah. I mean, we don't even know. Back tiny door set.

Dan Marino. Hey. Deion Lewis. Deion Lewis. Fucking send it. What's that? Dan Marino? There was no flub.

How come we had a chance to almost talk to Dan Marino and he got canceled? Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. That's my phone. That's my phone. AJ, what is your problem? No, for real, what happened?

When were we going to talk to him? I think it was a scheduling conflict. I think it was a scheduling conflict. That's a shame. Next hour, we got Amanda Serrano. Here we go. Next weekend, she fights Katie Taylor of Ireland, and people are calling this like the biggest women's boxing match ever.

Yeah, the Mayweather-McGregor, right? Pacquiao-Mayweather of women's boxing or whatever. Yeah, the Mayweather-McGregor, right? Pacquiao Mayweather of women's boxing or whatever. I can't wait. I'm pumped to talk to Serrano. I think it's going to be fun. I would assume you're going to have plenty of Oculus questions to her? Well, maybe. About your training regimen? I don't know if you saw this or not.

The Oculus is about to get me into the NFL too, potentially. Especially with the USFL training I'm going to be able to do from the confines of my own basement with the Oculus. I will ask Amanda Serrano about the Oculus, but I will also be diving right into this fucking game immediately upon its arrival on the Oculus. NFL

Pro Era had a commercial with Lamar Jackson that debuted on the internet yesterday. They have a virtual reality game in the Oculus that you can pick the plays, call the plays, basically do pretty similar to what the football game already is in there but with nfl teams and probably a little bit better graphics and i know these graphics don't keep up i guess with what the uh super video game graphics have but it is awesome to be in there and play football because you can actually control how far you throw it flick of your finger and everything it feels like you're in there i can't wait to just fucking look off aj

hawk that i'm gonna make and then just right over his head because i think you can manipulate the defense too in this whole thing it's going to be awesome i think but then once you catch it how what is the running like what does that mean uh they do the running, I think. Yeah, it's up to you. Can you juke or do anything? No, you can. So you can run. Can I run down next to him and block for him? If you can catch him. I mean, you're going to have to throw it pretty high.

I hope that it takes a long time to get down and that the defense isn't there to catch up to him. But, yeah, you can follow the ball for sure. How do you play defense, though? I think it's already brought in. Just quarterback. Yeah, yeah, you can follow the ball for sure. How do you play defense, though? I don't think – it's just like – I think it's already bought in. Just quarterback. Yeah, it's already bought in. Oh, okay.

That would be fun to throw. Dropping dimes everywhere, throwing touchdowns. I hope they have some competition games, too, where they drive the golf carts with the bullseye and I throw it at them. Yeah, so this other game has a lot of that, too. What is the name of the game? It's like VR football. It's something very generic.

And I played the Patrick Mahomes experience one as well well which is exactly like the other football game okay yeah yeah so you pick up the ball you throw the ball they all have like uh quarterback carnivals though for you to throw the ball through that's awesome it's a good time the nfl one i i think you're gonna have to figure out how to do some defense too i think yeah in the movement because you're really just using the analogs to move. Yeah, you need to give a bunch of treadmills like they have in Ready Player One. Bingo.

So everybody can actually move and shake and be friends. Absolutely. So this game is multiplayer? What's that, pal? What I read was multiplayer, so you're just two people playing offense? Yeah, I don't know. Then how do I go out for a route?

I saw hand movements like this. Remember that boxing game you played and you had to move your arms to walk? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder if it's like that for this. You got chopped. You got to run. Yeah, if you're playing someone, you can probably call it defensive plays, maybe. But then you're not controlling anybody on defense.

It's got to be just throwing. Just sling the pill, man. You know, we should be pumped that we're even in this area. Yeah, this is awesome. Either way, this is really cool. The first time we started playing the Oculus. Because I was about to kind of bury it a little bit. It's just like every other football game on there,

but we got NFL name plates on there. But we don't know that, if that's true. And also, cool that we're even able to do this. Yeah, for sure. And we should be pumped about it. And that Lamar Jackson commercial, awesome. Rem reminiscent of the vic uh on the roller coaster commercial awesome both of them can be awesome by the way don't have to bury one i absolutely love the announcement go ahead question for you guys that have the oculus and we were kind of talking about

this the other other day is there like a door where you just walk into the metaverse how do we get into the metaverse i'm not sure if that's like sims or not i don't know i've never been in there okay do you have to download it maybe or am i in the metaverse as How do we get into the metaverse? I'm not sure if that's like Sims or not. I don't know. I've never been in there. Do you have to download it maybe? Or am I in the metaverse as soon as I drop in there? That's where I was at. It feels like you probably have to download

like a metaverse app. Talk to Zuck. Like where's the McDonald's? What am I supposed to do? Just text him? Yeah, I don't think you're actually in the metaverse until you get physically,

virtually assaulted in there. All right. Have we taken a break this hour or not? I bought some land right next to Snoop in the metaverse. No, someone already bought that for $450,000. Cash, straight cash. No, you didn't. Because that other one went for $570,000.

Yeah, ETH. ETH, dude. Sorry. Too slow. You'd line up everything in there. Who is? You is? Yeah. No, you're not. We just learned that you lied about the first two pieces of real estate you didn't buy. Absolute fraud. Is your chain, did that start out like ironic and then it just became a thing?

Yeah. That's how I figured. That's how most good things are. Yeah. Well, because if you wear a tank top every day, the only way you can look any different, you know. Chain. Yeah. tank top every day the only way you can look any different you know chain yeah so to be i was wearing a long thin one for too long and i was starting to not be able to see which day was which

on the video so i was you know going through our pictures or something like that so you just got to keep it like the word bro that's how bro came out at least i remember we used to say bro kind of like sarcastically to people and then we just started using it sup high school problems i guess yeah i guess yeah you guys probably started that huh no we didn't start it i'm saying that's how it came into my life oh all right bro bro what time bro's a good one bro thank you for bringing bro into the world yeah thank you AJ appreciate it I don't claim to do anything none of us have any

original ideas we're all just recycling alright I mean that's a bigger conversation yeah I thought I created chillax when I was a kid

I did not that's a cool one yeah I felt real good about it yeah a week or two thought I had it I was fucking Webster, dude. That's probably a pretty sweet week.

Yeah, it was pretty cool. You did invent up to something season. Yeah, true. Up to something season is very hot right now. Yeah. We are in the middle of season. Piping hot. It is prime season of up to something season.

First time joining us and also a part of the first time women have main evented headline Madison Square Garden next weekend 42 fights 41 one and one that'll be 43 I guess 66% knockout rate baddest woman of all time ladies and gentlemen Amanda Serrano how are you I'm great it's an honor to be here thank you so much for having me no no we are lucky to have you on here shout out the Fandle shout out hey we're two weeks out right now or about a week and a half out where's's your head space at? Where's your mindset at? We know you're from Puerto Rico, by way of Brooklyn.

So, hey, Madison Square Garden, let's go. This is a fucking big deal. How are we feeling? How's the head space? I'm feeling anxious. I want to get it over with. I'm looking forward to May 1st, being the Undisputed Champion, and having this fight done with.

I'm excited. I i'm ready i'm pumped and i just can't wait for the 30th do you care uh like do you care how you win and what it looks like or do you just want to get a victory nope a win is a win no matter how katie taylor is a great accomplishment you know she's undisputed undefeated so i'm gonna get the win by any means necessary. How did you get into boxing? Because I feel like boxing is getting a massive resurgence because of a person you do business with and his brother. The Paul brothers have really brought boxing back, I think, into the mainframe.

You've been doing this, obviously, for a long time and been dominant for a long time. How did you get into boxing, and how do you feel about the state of boxing right now? Well, I got into boxing because my sister, she started, she's also a former world champion and she started and I was her number one fan. I was a babysitter. I worked at the gym. My brother-in-law, which is my trainer, he introduced us to boxing and it took me a while to get into it. I saw the struggle she had.

Female boxing wasn't, it just just started it was just started get making noise and I decided when I was 18 I said you know what let me try it and I did and you know they try to discourage me not to do it but it it blew up in their face because look at me now that's amazing i'm excited um the way women's boxing is growing so much we have a tremendous talent in this sport right now and look we're breaking breaking barriers you know you have two of the best pound for pound females going at it april 30th first time msg headlining so i'm excited uh you're fighting katie out of Ireland I believe and Eddie Hearn described this as Mayweather Pacquiao for the

women's fighting division what are you expecting from her are you guys friends were you friends before do you know each other how is the relationship and what are you expecting from her no we're good friends you know the difference between me and Katie Taylor we respect the sport of boxing this is not an easy sport we we know is the business we understand it's a business

So me and Katie are like the two girls that don't talk bad about any of our opponents like we will shake each other's hand And we acknowledge each other we have nothing bad to say about each other. We're both accomplished fighters So I just on April 30th, I'm going to dislike her very much. I just want it to be over with. But I'm pretty sure she's thinking the same thing. And, yeah, but I'm excited. I know she's excited too. Finally, two both pound-for-pound fighters.

It's been years in the making, and it's happening April 30th. Do you ever have moments during fights where you just, I would assume amateur boxers that aren't very good, where they just lose it and they freak out and they get mad and they start throwing wildly? Do you ever have any moments like that, maybe when you were younger? Oh yeah, I was known as the water boy when I first started

boxing. That was my nickname. My trainer and my sister, it was like, oh, you know, you look just like the water boy. Because once I get hit, I go, oh, like Bobby B. King. But, I mean, I've learned as a professional that you have to, you know, maintain everything. I mean, there's times where I still want to do it, but then my coach is like, you know, relax, relax. Yeah, what do you try?

What's the headspace before the fight? We listen to music. We're having a good time. Are we trying to get super angry because we hate this woman that we actually like in person? What do you do before the fight? Well, I'm listening to the music. I have my team there, you know. Oh, what music?

What music? What music are we listening to? What music? Oh, I'm listening to reggaeton, to salsa, to hip-hop. Oh, yeah. All the stuff that gets me going. And I have my trainer. My trainer, he's super, like, intense, and he gets angry really easy.

So I feed off of him. Like, during fight night, fight week, he gets really, like, intense. And I'm like, but I feed off of it. I feed off of it, and then I go in there, and I go like a crazy woman, and I get victories, but I feed off of it. I feed off of it and then I go in there and I go like a crazy woman and I get victories. Wow, Jesus. I just go in there like a crazy woman. I beat the hell out of people. I knock them out 66% of the time.

Have you boxed in the Oculus yet? Have you done any boxing in the Oculus? No, no, I haven't. I haven't, no. That's the game, right? Yeah, do you think if this guy does like the Oculus, he thinks he's a boxer and he thinks he can go into a gym and start. That's not true.

That is not true. You're an amazing wrestler. You are an amazing wrestler. I saw you. Congratulations at WrestleMania. Thank you. You did a hell of a job. Thank you.

Yeah. Fuck you. Thank you. That was not you. That was the overtop of you. You got the guy's name right off of him well excuse yeah he did he now he's just theory by the way thank you for that love champ thank you for that love i appreciate that no there's like everybody i think is interested

in boxing now much more people are getting interested in boxing both for cardio reasons and because of like content game there's a lot of boxing happening in the content world we live in a content world so the oculus has this fight game where i'm in there throwing like 500 punches against uh, you know Some some british guy who happens to be the champion. He just has to fucking eat a writer once in a while But I feel like i'm the workout is insane I just wanted to know if there's any similarities to that and actually having the fear of getting punched in the actual face Which I do not have in the oculus. It's a big difference when you're getting punched right back and you feel those punches.

Yeah, yeah, that's a thing. But I guess the workout is there. I've done it with the PlayStation, with the VR, and, you know, you get tired and you think you're going in there and trying to knock the person out for real. But it's a big difference when you're getting punched in the face. How's training? Do you get after it in sparring sessions do you have oh all the time i spar with

men predominantly men i mean the only girls on sparring i get is with my sister and she's just as tough as me and she's like you know be still my little sister so she still tries to give me the business but i'm always sparring with men I hired. I brought someone down from Puerto Rico, Jason Velez. He was giving me the business for three weeks. It's never easy in sparring. I love fighting because when there's a girl in front of me, I'm like, you're not the boys.

You're not the men. It makes you feel a lot more confidence going in there. Are you fighting today? How often do you fight? What is all the way up until fight night next weekend? Well, I have one more sparring session. I believe that's tomorrow, and that's it, and then until fight night. Okay. Hey, let's beat the shit out of this dude tomorrow night, huh?

Let's go ahead and beat the hell out of him so we're flying high. Go ahead, Ty. Amanda, you've only lost once, that was you know several years ago I'm curious like when was the last time in the ring you thought like oh I might be in trouble here a little bit obviously you expect to win every fight but does that happen to you very often where like you're actually fighting you're like oh shit I'm actually kind of in deep water here no no never never even when I even with that, I don't think I lost the fight. I mean, it wasn't the girl's hometown. It was just. Oh, this bullshit. We hate it. We hate it.

But, you know, I mean, we train, we train hard, you know, in the gym. There's times where you're like, OK, you're supposed to feel that way in the gym. In a fight, you're supposed to go 100% confident. Know you put in the work and just make sure that you just secure that victory. What do you think it's going to feel like making that walk at MSG come fight night? It's going to be overwhelming. But I'm super blessed that I was able to have my last two fights on the card of Jake Paul because those two nights were sold

out crowds and it was amazing. The crowd was amazing. So I was able to feel that once again. And once I go to the garden, you're going to have your people there. You're going to have her people there booing me. But it's just going to be something incredible and you feed off the crowd. So it's going to be something really fun. I think that's quite an advantage, right? Because there's maybe an adrenaline dump there that could add to a little bit of exhaustion in boxing. That's a big deal. I think you having that experience is a huge deal, right?

I honestly believe it. Yeah, I thank Jake Paul for putting me on his card twice because that crowd was crazy. It was crazy. Well, I'm sure it's going to be the same exact way next Saturday. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Amanda, are you watching film of Katie leading up to the fight? And also, how often do you have to change your styles almost?

Because you know she's also studying you going into the fight. Yeah, you know what? Styles makes fights. So she's never fought a girl like me. I've really never fought a girl like Katie. But I don't watch her. My team watch her fight a girl like me. I've really never fought a girl like Katie. But I don't watch them. My team watch her fight a couple of times. My sparring partners, they watch her fights more than me

so they can imitate her. And they'll bring that in the ring so I can capitalize on it or so we can work on it. But I watch her fights live when they're happening, but I never go back and watch them again. I feel like that's an interesting game it's worked by the way is that how that's how you've been against everybody yeah yeah why would we ever change anything they change because um she's gonna she's training different for me you know and i'm gonna be training a certain way for her so it it's just, you never know.

And then like Mike Tyson said, everything changes when you get punched in the face. Mike Tyson punched a guy in the face today. Yeah, he did. That guy learned. I mean, the guy had a plan on that plane. He was going to get drunk and he was going to say a lot of stuff to the guy in front of him.

Maybe get an autograph. Maybe get punched. The game changed. Game changed Mike Tyson today. Do you look ahead on your career and think about anything else or are you always in the moment just thinking about this fight?

Do you have a number in your head on how many wins you want to get to? What you want to accomplish? What you want to do? Have you already done that or is that not something you would even think about? No, I believe I got about a year left. I've been professional for 13 years. Been fighting for 15 years. I think this is, I got about a year, a year left. I've been professional for 13 years, been fighting for 15 years. I think this is the cap of the fight.

Like fighting Katie Taylor, who do you fight next? Making the money I'm making with Katie Taylor. Who's going to give me that amount of money again? So it's, I see myself another year. I'm hoping to one day step in your shoes and become a WWE star. Oh, let's go. Let's go, dude. So that's something I'm looking forward to.

I've trained a little bit with Amazing Red. So, I mean, I've dabbled in wrestling. I trained a couple of days. So, that was pretty cool. Do they know this at WWE? They have to. WWE knows this, right, from you? Well, I mean, I did an interview with the champ, Bianca Belair.

And I said, I wouldn't mind doing a tag team with you. Oh, here we go. So, WWE's hearing this and they're very excited right now. Amanda, this is good news for everybody, including the WWE. We have one last question for you, if that's okay. Go ahead. Go ahead, Tone.

Amanda, obviously headlining MSG, are you going to come out like dressed as the Empire State Building, or do we not do that anymore after Deontay Wilder said things were just too heavy for his entrance? No, no, no, no. I got my outfit getting ready getting done and um it's just um no no statue of liberty all right well you're gonna kill it congrats on an incredible 15 year fighting 13 year professional career uh we can't wait to watch you blow the roof

off of madison square garden Yes. You deserve it. Make sure to get your tickets, msg.com. They almost sold out. And if you can't make it live, make sure you watch it on the zone. It's free if you're a member. If not, go and subscribe right now. You don't want to miss this fight. It's going to be amazing.

Hey, you almost sold out Madison fucking Square Garden, dude. Think about that. That's awesome. Two women. Let's go. That's amazing. Congratulations. Congratulations. And a big shout out to FanDuel.

Hell yes. Hey, always that. We appreciate you. Good luck. Enjoy yourself. And we can't wait to watch. Ladies and gentlemen, Amanda Serrano. Yeah!

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Is he one of the founders of KFC? Is that what you guys said? No, just the Double Down. Yeah. Most famous sandwich. Most illustrious. No, the Chicken Little is the most famous sandwich. Come on. You were saying that for a little bit, that that's what he granted there for a while. What, the Double Down or the Chicken Little? The Chicken Little. Yeah, I was wrong about the Chicken

Little. You looked into it. I did. Was he killing people back then when he was working at KFC? No, he was not. That's why Dave Thomas left and started Wendy's. He was sick of it. I don't think that's true. Who's Wendy?

His daughter? Yep. Yeah. She had a commercial a few years back. Wendy? I had a Wendy's run there for a while. JBC's with the nuggets was great. They're spicy nugs.

Got that bucket of 50. Yeah, they had a run with me. Oh, yeah. I don't know why. Why did we stop? Anybody remember why we stopped? When did you stop? Well, the one out by the airport, people just stopped showing up for work there

because we would go there all the time, and then there would just be like a sign that says, like, we're not working today. Understaffed. Yeah. Sorry. Can't get your nugs or your JBC because we don't have enough people to make either or this. But we do have enough people to put this sign up yes the one on 286 was top of the line so i assume after that that's probably that was in my head that was the wendy's i went to

god they had great nuggets frosties unbelievable that was a form of miami subs you still do exactly do you still do the wendy's right now with the kids? My kids love Wendy's, yeah. AJ, when you get a Frosty, do you get chocolate or vanilla? I think a true Frosty is only chocolate. And you dip your fries in there? My kids do. I never got into that. I don't like Wendy's fries.

I never did. Yeah, I'm not a big Wendy's fries or McFlurry. Too mushy. I need McDonald's fries. Now, those are the crispy ones. Too much potato in the Wendy's fries, you're saying. Yeah, it's like floppy and weird. Too much mashed potato in that one.

Yeah. They're always hot and ready now, though. That's what I thought. Speaking of mashed potatoes, I'm happy we got to this. It's completely different. Uh-oh. Did you have mashed potatoes just like last weekend? What is this about?

Not that I can tell. How disgusting were they? And how jealous of my French fries were you that I was just sitting right in front of you housing right through the face? I don't remember eating mashed. What was the main dish? It was a chicken parm sandwich. Which was delightful. Some people love mashed potatoes.

What's wrong with that? You ordered a chicken parm sandwich with mashed potatoes? I did not know. As someone who loves mashed potatoes and chicken parm, you did not combine those two. You're a madman. No, you mashed potato people are all about mashed potatoes. Sure, sure. potatoes and chicken parm, you did not combine those two. You're a madman. No, you mashed potato people are all about mashed potatoes. Sure, sure.

Not with chicken parm. There are no rules. There are no rules to my life. I live a lawless life. So if I want mashed potatoes with my chicken parm, I don't care if I'm having fucking eggs, okay? And there's mashed potatoes, I'll eat them. No, you didn't, though.

You actually didn't. I forced them down my throat, but... They they were disgusting there was no butter i asked for butter no they were actual uh mashed potatoes not the things you put on top but to make mashed potatoes taste good this is mashed potatoes with the skin still in them and clearly the way that it was in the bowl i could tell they just got a big gallon size jug sitting down there with pre-made mashed potatoes They take that little fucking bowl They scoop it in

They take a knife They cut all the shit off the top Which is damn near the best part of the mashed potatoes And they put it on the plate So the presentation is the problem? Presentation was bad The taste was bad There was a lot of things wrong

It had pulp in it It had a little bit of crunch Exactly I don't mind a little bit of crunch The red potatoes? Was it red? There was red potato skins in it. It had a little bit of crunch. I don't mind a little bit of crunch. The red potatoes? Was it red? There was red potato skins in it. No, I didn't like that.

Was it supposed to be fries and you ordered mashed potatoes? No, it could have been fries. I said I'll have chicken parmesan. This is actually a big thing, obviously. You're the worst order of all. It's not true. It's not true because chicken parmesan was delightful. No, just remember, though.

Just remember that as soon as the mashed potatoes get presented in conversation, oh, there's a full conversation now. So he almost feels obligated to order mashed potatoes. And he's like, yeah, I'm going to eat the mashed potatoes. They get there. They were by far the worst thing on the entire fucking item because they're mashed potatoes. That's why. I don't know about that.

Honestly, the reason I didn't eat them all is because the nachos were just so goddamn delicious. I'm surprised you weren't licking them up off the floor, you Mick Bassett. Well, not to get lost. The nachos or the mashed potatoes? Excuse me. What? I thought we were busting balls here. I don't think you're allowed to.

I don't think you're allowed to do that. Busting balls. We are busting balls, but only us Mick's can be busting Mick balls. You hear me? To a 9%. God, I forgot about that. That's quite a development. I don't say that other thing, though.

No. It's very nice of you. Well. What were you saying in that video? Well, he's like, whoa. He didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. I said Faygo.

What were they beeping? Well, that's just movie magic. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I didn't actually. Whenever you guys play that, I can't even hear anything. All I see is Kato doing the old Spider-Man deal the whole time.

Kato Kaelin was ball energy. Absolute lightning rod. He was ball energy, that guy. Never turned off. What a life. Yeah. What a life Kato Kaelin has lived. What's he do now?

Crush it. Dominant social medias. Yeah. Slay. He hasn't talked to OJ since. He just got married. Oh, nice. All these things are happening

Kato's killing it Let's go to the fence Let's go to Matt in Michigan You talking about fucking crowd and coke No no no Canadian Charlie Let's go to Matt in Michigan On the 5RMG phone line

What's going on Matt Hey how you doing Keep it moving And how's the family, huh? Gobble boo. Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!

Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! See, we had that one on deck for a good two, three months waiting on the right time. So my question is for Pat and AJ, you know, the draft coming up. What was it like for you guys leading up to the draft and all the things you guys were going through

and your whole thought process and your mindset going into it, knowing your lives were about to change. Hey, shout out, Matt. Appreciate you calling in, bud. Mine was probably vastly different than AJ's. AJ, I assume you knew you were going to get drafted. I did not know. I had no idea. I was trying to figure out what plan B might have been aside from a pill

for a large portion of the draft. I thought I was going to get drafted to Dallas Cowboys. They drafted David Buehler out of USC instead. There was no other team that told me they were going to draft me so it was a nightmare to be honest I was boozed up pretty heavily uh you know we're having a good time then we had a bad time and it became a oh no time and then became a we don't like school or anything else really what the fuck am I going to do and I got a call uh from Bill Pullian and dreams came true now AJ number five overall what were you I assumed that there was a little bit of anxiety for you going into the week or no? I mean, honestly, not really just because I was

still in school. I was all over the place. You have to take all the, I was going, taking visits. And then the week before the draft, there was that week starting that Monday, you couldn't take any more visits, which I was very happy for because I was still going to class. So, but also at the same time, I knew I can't do anything about any of this anything that i could have done has passed like i already met with the teams already worked out of the combine pro day whatever so i just i had no clue and i didn't know i had no idea what was gonna happen at west virginia you know we don't have we didn't have a lot of guys that made to the nfl you know like it wasn't like it was a pipeline at the time so i i think i was vastly underprepared for that draft weekend.

Were you back in Pittsburgh? Yeah, it was probably me, by the way, not listening when people were talking or whatever. But that whole process, I feel like looking back, I didn't know shit about fuck about any of it. I had no idea. Nobody does. I was super naive to all of it.

I'm glad I was. Yeah, I think so. I think me too, because you would address it differently. But that was quite a wave of emotions there that draft weekend. I thought'm glad I was. Yeah, I think so. I think me too, because you would address it differently, but that was quite a wave of emotions there that draft weekend. I thought it was all over. Oh, no. And then me and my dad have a moment where we hug after the entire situation where

I get drafted, and Mel Kuyper's in the background burying me. Can somebody mute the television? Please. Then we go down to Puglia, and everybody drinks. The whole town drank. And then we tried to learn how to punt the next day. You know, it was quite a day.

It was quite a draft time. You know, what a moment there. Fifth overall had to be so much fun. Did you hop on a plane immediately afterwards? I mean, not a private plane. I drove to Cincinnati. They're like, yeah, you got a flight out of Cincinnati at 4 p.m. So, did that.

Yep. They don't have a plane in Green Bay. Well, they got $200 million worth of real estate investments every fucking year. They can't have a goddamn plane to fly players in after they draft them or trade for them? Hey, look at me. I've been saying for a long time, hey, we need to get this fucking done. Okay? All right.

I'm sick of it. Who would make that decision? Mark Murphy? Yeah, I don't know. Murphy wasn't there at the time. Ted Thompson. Ted, yeah. I mean, they don't have an owner, so they don't have a plane.

I didn't expect that. They said, hey, how far is Cincinnati Airport? I was like, an hour and 15 probably from where I was. And they said, all right, you've got to flight at 4. Or whatever it was. Jeez, real first-class operation. At least it was direct. At least that made it direct.

If it was flying out of Columbus or Dayton, it wouldn't have been direct. Man, that's a long time ago. Okay, so we won't talk about it, but it's the NFL. Yeah, hopefully times have changed. When are we going to get an owner for the Packers, by the way? It would help you guys immensely. It would help the Packers immensely. Keep the fans

having shares or whatever but you should get at least another owner I think to be have a seat at the table whatever things you think Mark Murphy opens his mouth and any of those other owners say oh that matters no way nope no way well you've kind of been able to just get past it because they've had uh far right into Rodgers, but it'll be interesting to see also what happens to the Packers franchise in general when Rodgers isn't there anymore and they don't have one of the best players in the league. It will be very interesting.

No, maybe he'll get another one. Yeah, like Matt Jones. That's the hope. Just like Peyton Andrew Locke. It's worked out well so far. It's going to happen again. Jordan Love still might be a guy. Jordan can sling it.

Yeah, Jordan got a lot better from the first time we saw him. Jordan's a good player. Kirk Bankert's back. Okay, let's go. He's yoked right now. He is jacked. I saw a picture of him in a weight room. Shredded.

He's working. That guy's getting after it, AJ. Well, Zito actually a little bit ago sent me a picture of Goop and all of his juice ball buddies. Who the hell are you hanging out with, Goop? Those guys are all jacked. Tremblone Sandwich Club. The lads, AJ.

Those are just the lads you grew up with or what? Yeah, those are my best buddies back home. The Tremblone 12. The guy in the black is actually my best friend. He is the lad of the lads back home. And we're not just assuming that they're all on roids, but whenever every head looks the exact same. The guy.

That guy is a fucking monster in the white shirt. Yeah, I'd say. He's got good angling, too. He's got good setup. Glory days, my friend. Good run. When was that? Back when men were freaking men.

Five years ago? No, more than that. Jeez. Look like it's about 23 degrees Celsius in that pic. It does look very warm. Absolutely. That's probably 28 there, I'd say. So eight years ago, seven years ago.

What a time. what a time. What a time. 28-year-old Tremblant Sandwich. Hell yeah. All right. Speaking of Tremblant Sandwiches, the performance-enhancing gamblers. Gamblers. The PEGs.

Hammerdown boys. The hammerdown boys. Yes. The performance-enhancing gamblers. The hammerdown championship boys. We'll be live in about 15-20 minutes What are you guys

Betting on today? Baseball Playoff basketball Oh yeah Footy Oh footy League on Yeah

Ice How'd it go? 9-4 yesterday Let's go Let's go I got a pick For Hammerdown too Ooh

It's been a while Since you've graced us Bruins 8-1 Against the Penguins Tonight Alright Shut up I co-sign Oh You don't fucking know Blue Jackets Ooh, it's been a while since you've graced us Bruins 8-1 against the Penguins tonight Alright, shut up Our co-sign

Oh, you don't fucking know Blue Jackets stink, dude Our goalie's standing on his head tonight for sure Yeah, Swayman, he's a good gobbler Casey DeSmith needs a little figure Maybe 7-1 Blue Jackets stink You're right

I hope Casey DeSmith read our Goaltending for Dummies book Over the last couple days Now that he's the guy in between the pipes. He's basically had one in the locker room with him in Louis Domingue. Very true. One of the chances Louis Domingue comes in tonight.

Massive. If it's going to be 7-1, pretty good. It's going to be 3-0 after the first 10 minutes. Is this in our barn? It's in Pittsburgh? Yeah, it's at the paint. The Yenzers will let ownership know and the coaches know. If it's 5-0 or whatever and Louis Domingue comes in

and puts up a good second period and third period, there'll be Louis chance if they want him next week. Here's what I'll say about the Boston Bruins, okay? We're fucking unbelievable. Pittsburgh Penguins playing with Casey DeSmith, their backup goaltender. Penguins are still a favorite. That's all you have to say about the Boston Bruins.

The Reno's are 8-2 at home in their last 10. Last 10 don't matter. We're looking ahead to the fucking playoffs. See you guys there. I'm putting $10,000 on the Bruins. No. You should. Is Geno back?

Connor, who's our best player? Fucking whoever's on the ice. Alright, that's not how it works. I agree. That's not how it works. I'll be trying to switch teams because Colorado's got Texas hockey. Oh, no, I'm all about Colorado. You know that.

But I do ride with Connor a little bit on Boston, especially against Pittsburgh. Yeah, we're the best team in the fucking league, so I'm not worried about it. I'm trying to get Connor to get more access. These have been a bit of a tough stretch. Also, if you want an update on teams, the Florida Panthers are

minus 650 to win the game against the Detroit Red Wings. Take Detroit. Come on, Evie. You guys fucking stinked. I just did Moneyline three-way pens. I don't know. I think that's a bad bet.

Well, I just went for it Because every other bet That you've told me Is a good bet In the last two weeks Guess what Emptied my bank account Not sure I told you

This time I'm just not sure I did I said hey look This team's different You did not You actually said Kyrie's gonna score 52 points Yeah I actually just told you

Jalen Brown first basket He did not That did not happen Yeah no shit Why didn't you know Fucking Bruce Bryan Was gonna come out balling? Listen, I've tried to tail old Boston Connor for the last couple weeks.

It has been a terrible ride. Yeah, I owe you about 75 grand. Tonight is the night it changes. Exactly. Take the Bruins. Buy 50. All right. Bad gambler.

We're back tomorrow. We'll see how it goes. Hammer down 15, 20 minutes or so. They'll be talking about all the bets you need to bet. They are the performance-enhancing gamblers. The champion gamblers. The men who hit much higher than they probably should, especially since they have a live show every single day.

That's absurd. How do the gambling gods let you guys continue to do what you're doing? They'll put you in check every once in a while. Oh, yeah. I remember the other day. Not right now. They're swinging a hot bat. You got a hot bat right now?

Swinging a hot bat. How about you, bat right now? Swinging a hot bat. How about you, bro? DeMar DeRozan last night, plus 950 first basket. Felt pretty good about it? Easy one. Cash it. Wow. We hit a beautiful multi-sport parlay.

Yeah, we did. Greatest bet of all time, Mitzud. God, hammer it down. He's doing it, man. Good boys. Good comments. I can't wait to watch. We'll be back tomorrow with some big-time guests.

Feel Good Friday on from 11 to 2, Mignogna. Hell yeah. Here we go. 11 to 2, Mignogna. Where's. Here we go. 11 to 2, Mignogna. Where's Smackdown? Albany, New York. Sweet. That's the capital.

Yeah. It's touching Canada. Cuomo. Stop by Cuomo. Bring Diggs with you. Who wants to go on this trip? I don't think Cuomo's still there. Only if I was going

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