The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 653 - NFL Draft Round 1 Recap, Ian Rapoport, Peter Schrager, Jay Glazer, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: April 29, 2022On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, Darius Butler, and the boys are joined by Ian Rapoport (18:05-49:15), Peter Schrager (58:18-1:23:41), and Jay Glazer (1:23:43-1:47:09) to recap everything that happened ...in the Draft Spectacular and round one of the NFL Draft, including all the trades that shocked us, who might be on the move today or tomorrow, and who ultimately won Round 1. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen to Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, beautiful people.
It is full first round fallout.
Feel good Friday, April 29th, 2022.
This show begins now.
Yeah.
Can't thank you enough for joining us yet again.
Last night was obviously spectacular.
I mean, the first round of the NFL draft was a story of runs, wasn't it, boys?
It really was.
First, it was the defense events.
Then it was the offensive tackles.
Then it was the wide receivers.
Then it was, oh, no, there ain't no wide receivers left.
Let's go trade, trade, trade, trade, trade.
The only quarterback that was taken was Kenny Pickett
to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
If the Pittsburgh Steelers don't take Kenny Pickett there,
does the rest of the NFL think to themselves,
well, Tomlin and Colbert have been able to see this guy for the last five years.
How come they didn't take picket?
If he didn't take picket, would picket then
fall mightily because
of such a thing, especially in the NFL when
did they not go to his birthday
party? Could potentially come up.
It was an incredible evening. We can't thank you
enough for joining us last night.
We did obvious, hilarious numbers.
So thank you so much for
watching. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Thank you so much to Ari Mirov for going to work,
letting those things eat. Also, Doran Dickerson, former player, also tipping picks out there.
Congrats to him getting into the game. Appreciate that. I guess we were ahead of the main network
broadcast by a few minutes on some of the picks.
We did not mean to do that.
We do not apologize for it at all.
That's just the Internet being fucking better than you guys yet again.
Bingo.
It was a fun night, obviously, at Boston Corner, dressed up in a Stormtrooper costume.
And you guys, New England Patriotsots make a massive move and draft somebody
that sean mcveigh thought was gonna be on the board at 100 and something uh good old cole strange
yeah unbelievable i'm juiced i mean once you saw the face mask you knew okay this guy's gonna be a
hell of a player and i listen to uh people are stranger when they're a stranger probably like
100 times since we've drafted them. So I'm juiced.
I'm already printing the 69 jerseys with strange on the back.
So, I mean, we're back to the Super Bowl.
You guys should make hats that just have the metal.
Oh, just the duck face mask?
Hat and the glasses that have the vibe like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I love the fact that New England Patriots fans are the only fans that are like,
yep, that's what Bill does.
We don't know who the fuck this guy is.
But, hey, did you guys win fucking six Super Bowls just like that?
Have you?
No?
Okay.
If this guy wants to draft somebody from nobody university, we got nothing but faith.
He's actually mocking the rest of the NFL with every single draft pick he makes
because he builds a team prior to the draft even happening.
Did not expect Cole Strange to go off the board.
Did not know Cole Strange existed.
But I think he's going to be a player.
There were some surprise picks last night, I think.
I think the biggest surprise for me, though, was at one point,
Mad Mel Kiper was on the screen with Jason Glazer,
who was also on the screen with Coach Lou Holtz,
who was also on the screen with Coach Lou Holtz, who was also on the screen with Coach Sirianni,
who was also on the screen somehow at the end with MCDC.
Now, Ty, you weren't here for any of it.
You missed it all.
What a night for a lot of your favorite people on the Draft Spectacular.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I look forward to it every year.
It's always a lot of fun.
Doing it with you guys is the best.
And one of the most fun parts is we get to come in today and i i really don't remember or know anything that happened
last night like it's kind of just a blur had a lot of time to sit on what the packers did and i
like once um all those receivers went real early i kind of knew like okay they're probably not
going to get one of these guys they had apparently six guys on their board that had first-round grades,
but they get two dog defenders who will probably make a day-one impact.
It wasn't as exciting as I think a lot of Packers fans would have hoped it would be,
but I think they're in a good position.
You just got to go get a receiver today.
Obviously, Aaron joined us last night for an incredible conversation.
Can't thank him enough.
Thank you, Aaron.
I feel like he's dialed in with the Packers organization,
front office, a lot more than he's ever been in 18 years.
Shout out to him finally getting that right to know what the hell's going on
with the team that he guides, and he's been around the longest.
But I think him telling you guys, like, hey, we're going to be all right.
He went on an entire run about second round, wide receivers round fourth round fifth round i think he even dove in there
and was like you know that's one of those positions it's very tough to tell it seems like he did get a
lot of information from goody going in the draft like hey this is what we can expect this is what
we're thinking if these guys are available we have to take them but if they're not available
which is what we're thinking is going to happen which is exactly what cliff kingsbury told us by
the way yeah cliff kingsbury said felt like where we what we're thinking is going to happen, which is exactly what Cliff Kingsbury told us, by the way. Cliff Kingsbury said, felt like where we were,
those wide receivers were going to be gone.
So they made the decision about Hollywood, like, I think a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, right.
Genius.
With where they were.
They're like, we can trade actually just the pick itself for a guy
who's already proven.
A guy that wants to get out of the system that Baltimore was running
via the I Am Athlet athlete, I believe, conversation
that Hollywood Brown has had since the trade has been announced.
He said, hey, Lamar, I love you, man.
It's not you.
It's just the system that we run here.
I'm a wide receiver.
If I ever want to make any money in this thing, I'm going to have to catch some goddamn balls,
more balls.
You're the guy.
I appreciate you.
Baltimore Ravens should do what they do with you.
Let you do your own thing.
You are an alien.
But with that being said, I got a business for myself as well.
And Arizona now is packed to the gills.
Cliff Kingsbury joining us last night looking as cool as he looks.
Oh, God.
And the fact that they were able to keep that trade under wraps without all the insiders,
we will certainly ask Ian Rappaport how that happened.
Ian Rappaport is so busy boozing and reporting fake contract numbers.
He doesn't even know the Hollywood Browns are already on a fucking plane to Arizona.
Unbelievable.
Before the draft even starts, this guy, yesterday, he's on a plane to Arizona
so that he can be there at the draft party, which looked awesome.
The Cardinals are doing everything right right now.
I would love to be a Cardinals fan.
They should be pumped.
Ty, you had a hell of a night, bud.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Incredibly proud of you, man.
That was awesome to watch.
At Tone Diggs, your team, the Pittsburgh Steelers,
take the only quarterback on the board.
I referenced this in the open, but it's very real,
and I think it would be something NFL coaches would look at and NFL front office would look at.
They've seen every single thing this guy,
they've heard about every shit this guy has taken,
every towel he has maybe not put into the hamper,
every janitor that he could have potentially pissed off,
chef, parking attendant, you name it.
They have had him in their building for five years.
Some people would say, well, that's a little bit cheating.
A little bit.
Some people would.
A little bit tampering, I would say.
Yeah, because they only get to go do dinner with Kenny Pickett the night before.
That's right.
Steelers actually have it.
And that's the benefit, I guess.
I guess it's a benefit to go to the University of Pittsburgh,
not that there's many others.
Just would like that to be known.
Oakland, terrible area.
People are good.
Pittsburghers are good people.
Okay.
But whatever the case, if they don't draft Kenny Pickett,
I think I thought about this, I don't know, like 4 a.m. this morning
because I couldn't sleep up to like 5.30 this morning or whatever.
It was quite an adrenaline dump, I think, after that show.
We were live for five and a half, six hours yesterday.
I was thinking about that, though.
If the Steelers are the only team that takes quarterback and it's not Kenny Pickett,
I think that would have been bad news for Kenny.
As I'm watching the draft, watch along there.
Narduzzi's there.
Kenny Pickett's there. His familyett's there his family's there his lady's
there if the steelers draft somebody outside of that building or that family i think there's an
immediate low what the fuck is wrong with this guy instead everything else it appears that they
were meeting with everybody else was just to see if they were a baseline alongside kenny pickett
you have your quarterback of the future in the steelers minds i think in kenny pickett How do you feel this morning after getting to sleep on it, getting to take it all in?
Mitchell Trubisky would be a great guy to learn from, I think.
Oh, yeah.
Been a starter.
Been a backup.
Been a starter.
He's been in a terrible situation.
Been on a team that's been on a run.
Feels like everything's really going good.
And after you see Kenny Pickett react to that draft, I'm pumped for him.
I am fucking incredibly pumped for him and for the Steelers.
Yeah, a few things.
I was incredibly pumped to see how happy he was that he was going there.
And you guys always say, like, when I wear, like, something,
the same shirt every game, oh, you think you're important.
In this situation, I do not think I'm important.
I do not think that I know more than Tomlin and Colbert
when it comes to football or drafting players.
And Tomlin and Colbert both, especially Tomlin, seem fucking ecstatic to get him.
Yeah, Tomlin's actually skipping into the room to call Kenny Pickett.
What was he saying?
All right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
Get out of the way.
Get out of the way.
To call Kenny Pickett to make the pick.
So he calls Kenny.
He was very happy to call Kenny.
Texans said that they got a call from 20 to move
up to 15 and potentially move back to 20. So I think the Steelers were maybe worried about the
Saints taking him too. So they were potentially going to move up to get Kenny. Colbert said that
they didn't think he'd be there at 20. So everything that they're saying is happy. They
know everything about the kid. So if you watch him for four years and I trust that they think
that they know who he is and that they think he's a first-rounder.
So I'm very, very ecstatic.
And then the cherry on the top is Mason Rudolph should be cut any day.
All right.
Cut him.
Cut him now.
All right.
Oh, Yinzer Depp.
What's up, dude?
Great to see you back, Nick.
Great to see you as well.
You had a hell of a night.
A lot of Catania references. Hey, it felt like you probably had to be on some to make it through that,
but a hell of a job by all you boys.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It was a fun night.
Thank you for all your work.
Foxy, great work.
Yeah.
Atta baby, Foxy.
Zito, way to spin the plates.
Thank you, Z.
Hey, Goompi, way to get the internet involved.
Atta baby, Goompi.
Hey, way to rip there, Bill.
Way to go, Bruce.
Way to go, Bill.
Way to go, Zito.
Hey, boys.
Thanks for all of our guests.
I am running on fumes today, though.
A little bit.
I got smacked down tonight.
I know.
Oh, shit.
Good luck.
Yeah, have fun.
Boomer, huh?
Talk about your fucking...
Yeah, Boomer.
And he took a few days off last week, too.
Oh, man, what a life.
The draft is cool, man.
Yeah.
It brings so many fake storylines.
This morning, I saw Stephen A., who I got a lot of respect for,
battling against Swagu.
Did the Pittsburgh Steelers make a mistake in drafting it?
How the fuck do we know?
And I'm okay with our show being the only show that says,
we have no idea how any of these draft picks are going to go.
Absolutely.
For years and years and years,
there's been the instant reaction
that has led to fans having instant reaction,
which has led to organizations having to deal with expectations
in players' careers almost being cut, undercut,
before they even get started.
32 dudes were drafted last night.
One of them might be a Hall of Famer.
20 of them might be a Hall of Famer.
We have 31 of them might be a Hall of Famer. 20 of them might be a Hall of Famer. We have 31 of them might be a Hall of Famer.
Cole Strange might be the only one that isn't a Hall of Famer.
That's not true.
I'm saying there's a chance of that happening.
No, that's not true.
No, there's a chance.
No chance.
No, there's no chance that happens.
Listen, Mr. Strange is going to do his thing.
Yeah.
And after seeing him, he is huge.
He's huge.
That guy might be covering kicks.
Yeah. He's a house. That dude might be covering kicks without yoke they've seen him but nonetheless we have no idea
about any of these dudes how they'll fit into the system how they'll fit into the culture how
they'll fit into the city how they'll fit into what the coaches because you got to remember the
coaches that they've had throughout their entire careers when they were in high school they were
by far the best players when they were in college definitely cold strange they were by far the best players not that the offense alignment would
change but when you get to the nfl there's a different level of you know everything around
you how will these guys adjust to all the greatest players of their generations and the four
generations before them all being in the same locker room we don't know it's so incredibly
difficult uh to predict but it's easy to say that a couple teams seem to have a great draft last night.
Those who had multiple picks in the first draft
or first round, you'd assume that they'd done
good. For instance, Giants
feels like Giants did good.
Hopefully Giants, hopefully it works
out. We are very pumped for them.
Hopefully, you know, if
Thibodeau becomes
an absolute stallion
champion,
we're going to have to remember that for how the draft smoke and mirror
bullshit conversation happens because he was number one in January.
He goes to five to the Giants.
I assume the Giants are pumped.
Giants also get another pick in.
Evan Neal.
Evan Neal, who's the best pass blocker in the draft.
He was the first guy off the board in everybody's eyes
like a month and a half ago as an offense tackle.
You think about the Jets.
They had two in the first round.
Then they traded in to get three.
Jermaine Johnson, yeah.
In the first round.
So the Bills are the Bills.
The Dolphins have gone all in in free agency.
Bills Patriots are the Bills Patriots.
Bingo.
The Jets made a fucking massive play in the draft last night.
They had two.
They got one and got another one.
I feel like they did good.
Yeah.
I feel like they done very good in there as well.
And then I like the Giants not fucking around taking Hutchins.
And then Jameson Williams, who, if he didn't tear his ACL,
probably would have been the number one receiver off the board.
And I love that they decided, like, hey, let's fucking trade back in
and go get our guy.
Like, I thought that was a sweet move.
You know who else I think won?
Who's that?
Detroit Lions, baby.
Yeah.
100%.
Does it matter?
This is what we were just talking about.
Does it matter?
Now, Darius Butler last night, immediately upon old cuzzy getting drafted to the Lions,
Jameson Williams, he goes, I feel fucking terrible for that guy.
Yeah.
Which, you know, quite a reaction from the internet.
Orlovsky said, oh, shut up.
Teague Lang said, fuck off, Butler.
He said, Evan Fox, immediately upon hearing it, I think you just kind of scraped off because
you hadn't slept in like four days or whatever at that point.
But the Lions made some big, get Aiden Hutchinson out there.
Michigan man back in the building, maybe a pillar culture builder for MCDC. whatever at that point but the lions made some big get aiden hutchinson out there yeah michigan
man back in the building maybe a pillar culture builder for mcdc penny soul i mean you guys got
to be excited in detroit i love the hutchinson pick because it was a no-brainer but them being
aggressive moving up to get the receiver that's something i've never seen them do before this is
gonna sound crazy but for the first time in my life, I actually think I trust the Lions for an office.
Even though they've only been there for one year, they
have not made a bad move.
I don't think they've made a single bad move yet.
They paid Jared Goff like $150 million.
Got rid of Matthew Stafford.
They had to do that, though. Stafford was going to leave no matter what.
I don't know. He said some things.
Stafford was gone no matter what.
They actually made a pretty good trade.
And now they've turned that into a wide receiver
The best wide receiver in the draft
For what most people are saying
Okay, maybe
With that being said
You guys paid Jared Goff a salary
Nobody else thought they were going to be able to pay
And he won a couple games
But it is a transition period
And I'm happy that Detroit is happy
Hey, you hear me?
I'm happy you're happy
I'm pumped you're pumped.
I love what you're doing. I actually walked
in today and said, I have the best team in the office now.
Yeah, he did.
See, that's the problem with the draft.
That's the problem with the draft.
I love that. That's the best part.
The best defensive end in the league and now the best wide receiver.
The hope in that guy's voice
is awesome and it makes it even better
when week four rolls around and their season's already over.
Well, week four, I don't think Jameson will be back yet by then.
No.
Because he's ending up on the PUP, the physically unable to perform list.
He's tough.
He can make it back.
He's pretty tough.
They have?
Well, he is Detroit tough.
And that is something that, no, that would put previous regimes
are doing Detroit.
Hey, pal, let's force you back here and just fuck up your entire career.
Week one.
Yeah, yeah. Not MCDC and Brad. No way they're not doing it. Hey, pal, let's force you back here and just fuck up your entire career. I hate you back week one.
Yeah, yeah.
Not MCDC and Brad.
No way they're not doing it, especially with Sheila.
Sheila Ford-Hamp's running that thing well.
Hopefully they'll pay Calvin Johnson and be able to get out of that curse.
There was another team I just wanted to chat about. Well, Fox, you just mentioned about trades.
If we're talking about trades, I think the Eagles were the ones that really ran away.
Yeah, Howie Roseman, the accountant that's running a football team
over there in Philadelphia, where just a couple years ago
felt like everything was on fire.
They built a statue for fucking two guys that they literally ran out of the building
less than a year and a half later.
They had Johns and Philly eating horse poop off the parade streets.
That's how pumped Philly was.
First Super Bowl in like 50 years, Philadelphia was ecstatic.
Go 13, 14 months later, the entire franchise and program is in disarray,
a full disaster, absolute hellhole.
Philadelphia's like, here we go again.
Obviously, we've seen what happened in Philadelphia during the entire
last couple years.
Philadelphia, we're dead, we're dead, we're dead.
Jalen Hurts seems to be a guy.
And if you look back on what Howie Roseman did
with his picks for Carson Wentz, trading him,
and now he's going to be a great commander.
That's right.
He gets Devontae Smith with one of those picks,
and then he gets fucking A.J. Brown with another one of those picks.
Howie Roseman with his cool hair and super accountant-like look.
He has gone through, I mean, the entire wave of I'm good, I stink,
I'm back on top again.
The Eagles got to be pumped about last night.
And we saw a video of Mike Vrabel coming out of the war room.
I don't think Vrabel was necessarily exactly thrilled that fucking A.J.
Brown was on the move from Tennessee.
Darius Brothers first response, who is Tannehill going to throw the ball to down there?
They got to figure it out.
They picked up Traylon Burks out of Arkansas.
Just Arkansas.
Oh.
Pigs to me.
Whoa. Woo, pig suey. Woo, pig suey.
Happy birthday, John Daly, yesterday, by the way.
Happy birthday, John.
Woo, pig suey.
Shout out.
So they get a young wide receiver.
It's going to be cheaper than A.J. Brown.
And his comparison is to A.J. Brown.
But, you know, just like we're making comparisons, I don't know,
like Calvin Johnson and Julio Jones and A.J. Brown.
Who knows if that's going to work out?
Let's assume they will.
They've got good coaches down there.
But any time you lose a guy, Hollywood or A.J.,
the whole entire program, franchise, is probably going to be a bit pissed.
But business decisions have to be made.
Joining us now, NFL insider for NFL Network, NFL.com,
and the league as a whole.
Somehow he has managed to not be too boozed up in the city of sin.
Joining us live from the NFL Draft in Vegas, ladies and gentlemen,
the host of the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and friends,
he being Rap Sheet, us being Friends, Ian Rapoport.
Hey!
What's up, guys? How you doing?
I'm trying to check your voice here to hear how banged up you've been getting out there in Vegas.
You all right?
I just, you know, not too many details, but I was showered a little bit earlier,
did my voice exercises in the shower. We're good. I feel great.
You sound a little different. Is that that Vegas flu in the throat there?
No.
It's the excitement over the big draft last night,
which is why my voice sounds like this.
All right, let's dive into it.
Oh, hold on, hold on.
I don't want to be rude.
How was your extravaganza or spectacular or whatever it was?
Oh, fuck off.
It was better than anything the NFL Network or ESPN
or anybody else put out.
Don't worry about it.
Okay.
Looks like you had good guess.
Well, you couldn't join us because you're on the television.
You're doing the television, which is, hey, you crushed on there, by the way.
Yeah, baby.
All right.
Speaking of, you guys are supposed to be insiders.
We rely on the likes of you and other networks insiders to let us know
what's going on around the nfl because we don't have those connections no we don't not at all if
we had those connections we would hope to give back to the sports media work hollywood brown
was traded from the ravens to the cardinals a month and a half ago yeah he was on a plane
from vegas yesterday during the day before the even draft, to get to Arizona. How did nobody know about this, Ian?
And how do you think the Baltimore Ravens fans are handling this entire thing?
Well, you know, I think for the Baltimore Ravens fans,
Eric Takasa has done good enough work, really good work,
over the last decade or so that they should probably trust
that he knows what he's doing.
You're right, though.
This was like ultimate, ultimate secrecy.
And I think for Hollywood Brown, you know, he kind of mentioned it.
Like, he tried to do it the right way.
He requested a trade, had actually done it a couple times
during his second season, during his third season.
It was about the offense.
It was about getting to a place where he could thrive and flourish.
But for the Ravens, I think what they wanted was for –
I think people knew the Ravens always need receivers
and looking for receivers and draft receivers.
I think Eric DaCosta really wanted people to think that –
really wanted people to kind of think that he was picking
or thinking that he was going to take a receiver.
He wanted the uncertainty there. He didn't want it to get out that they were trading him just so people would
kind of leave the have like a guessing game as far as where he was actually picking so from what I
understand it was basically like we're going to do a deal we're going to trade Hollywood Brown to
the Cardinals and if it gets out we're not doing it oh really so everyone involved kept it secret i
didn't find out you know honestly like i you know some of these things i found out about early like
aj brown i found out about yesterday probably two that it was in the works this one i did not know
just because everyone kept it so private okay hey take your pods out i think that's why you
sound so boozed up yeah are, are you in your room?
Oh, jeez.
Yeah, he must have pressed the pod button.
Oh, yeah.
I think it was the pods, though.
It's not actually Ian that's boozed up.
I agree.
But, well, I mean, probably a little bit of both,
because we know he was out until 4 a.m. last night drinking.
I can't say anything.
I was up until, like, 5 a.m. this morning, 5.30 a.m.
Yeah, but you weren't, you know, at the blackjack table asking for, table asking for booze until you fell asleep. If it was there, though, I probably
would have. Probably.
We actually had a couple beers
last night around downtown Indianapolis.
You and the downtown boys?
Yeah, exactly. Me and the single...
I guess Bruce isn't single, but yeah,
the single downtown boys,
I was out and about. Well, Mitt also isn't single,
so I was...
Just the boys. The downtown boys, I was out and about. Well, Mitt also isn't single, so I was. Just the boys.
Just the downtown boys.
Just the downtown boys.
Just the downtown boys.
The downtown boys, yeah.
I went out and had a couple beers.
The first place we went to said it was open.
It was closed.
Okay.
It was not open until we were, because we got out of here like 1245.1.
Yes.
Went to my wife's friend's place.
It was going.
Unbelievable.
Had no idea what I was walking into.
No. Had hadn't been
there in years uh had a beer what i had experienced uh they were had some rave smoke machine there was
a smoke machine there was a rave going on everybody appeared to be on molly uh-huh okay i think
everybody in there area it was rolling yeah it's out of the basement had to be there we left i
think we went to uh we tried to get into another place.
We were not allowed in.
No.
They had people inside.
We were not allowed in.
A lot of people.
Firefighters convention in town.
So a lot of mustaches around town.
Good one.
From around the country in Indianapolis, which is what Indianapolis does.
It was great to see Indianapolis hosting again.
The convention was here.
Couldn't get into one of the bars.
Nope.
By the way, I will say, it was kind of a shot at my ego that I could't get into one of the bars by the way i will say it was kind of a
shot of my ego that i could not get into a bar that had a lot of people in indianapolis a ton
of people a ton of people so we had to go to another place uh we go to how with the moon
fucking alive yeah still place had a beer there that place has been the same exact bar for 15
years here in indianapolis still going. Had a beer there.
We meet a bunch of firefighters from Long Island and Boston and all over the place.
Really?
Have a beer.
We get out of there.
Then we go to a final stop.
Security guy says, sorry, I can't let you in or whatever.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Have I lost all the juice?
I feel like I've gotten more popular.
I haven't been out in years in Indianapolis.
I can't even get in. They finally let us in.
Wrap up.
Have another beer. Get home around, I don't know, like probably 1.apolis. I can't even get in. They finally let us in. Wrap up, have another beer.
Get home around, I don't know, like probably 1.30, 2 o'clock-ish.
Up till 5.
Did not get boozed up.
Joining us now, a man who was probably, and I would have been with him.
Uh-huh.
Oh, yeah.
In Las Vegas, joining us, a couple hours removed from his last beverage,
ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport.
Hey, R.G.
What's up, dude?
Hopefully you can hear me. Did you get any of that stuff
last time? We did,
actually. We did. We heard all, but you sounded
like muffled.
We heard you, though. We heard everything you said about
how they... AirPods are
not good enough. I need a better
performance there. Anyway, we'll talk.
Ian, it's not just the AirPods. We can really dive
into this. the the new
iphone is shit too you know what i mean compared to the previous ones you think is that why you
think well the i would just assume the new airpods also shit because they're worried about this
camera being awesome and the camera is awesome i mean it is amazing but they kind of have thrown
the the actual functionality of the phone it feels feels like, by the way sign. This newest model is shit,
I think, personally.
Yeah, I mean, I would...
All I really need is just
good enough performance to do
this right here. That's really what I'm...
I'm not asking for much!
Please, just look!
I FaceTime
a couple different people. You're not the only
person I FaceTime, but I just need're not the only person I FaceTime
But I just need this to work
And it's not really too much to ask
Well it comes together for us on a regular basis
So we shouldn't be too negative
And I believe
I forget which
Canceled comedian did it
I think it was Louis CK
Was talking like his kid about his phone not working
This thing sends a fucking thing up to
a satellite in space.
Then it comes all the way back. Sorry you
have a little buffering that's going on.
We do have to take it all in stride.
I think we do have to take it all in stride and understand
that this is crazy that we're even being able to talk to you
and we are thankful. Back to the trade.
You said that DaCosta of Baltimore
said, if anybody finds out about this, we're not
doing it because we would still like to have leverage play.
And also, we don't want to deal with our fans being pissed off
before night one of the draft.
So if this gets out anywhere, Cliff Kingsbury told us
there was about four people that knew that this trade was happening.
Do you think that's on both sides or that's just on the Arizona side?
I would say, if I had to guess, I would say the people that knew about it
were probably Cliff Kingsbury and Steve Keim, Eric Tecosta and John Harbaugh, Hollywood Brown and his agent, Tory Dandy.
That your boy, Tory Dandy.
That is it.
And it's rare for something to keep that quiet.
But there wasn't a lot of reason for other people to know.
First of all, there was no contract being negotiated. He's going to play in his current deal. Second of all, like the draft
is big business and the stakes are extremely high. So people take their leverage very, very,
very seriously. And I think Eric DaCosta did not want anyone to know what they were doing,
where they might, uh, where they might trade, what round they might pick, and the fact that they could come back into one.
I think he took that very seriously,
and there was a lot of respect there that that did not leak.
Torrey Dondi had to be thankful that that trade was agreed to ahead of time
because he had to deal with A.J. Brown day of.
How quickly did that come together?
You said you knew that yesterday.
We see a shot of Vrabel from the war room.
He looks pissed, obviously.
He's not exactly thrilled.
So first, I saw the clip of Vrabel, and I'm trying to like, you know,
it's tough to know what actually is going on.
But my read on his body language, and we're all like social media
slash body language experts, I feel like he was kind of like,
well, had to do that.
Because they could have kept A.J. Brown.
They absolutely could have kept him, but the contract they offered him
was nowhere near what the Eagles offered him.
From what I understand, it was more like, you know, it was up to $20 million a year,
but it was really backloaded to the first couple years were more like $15 or $16 million,
not top receiver money.
And so the Titans made a very clear choice.
We are going to take a younger player who we hope is A.J. Brown,
who, by the way, they took in the second round, who we hope is A.J. Brown,
and we're going to let someone else pay him.
And that is a bet, essentially, because if Traylon Burks is what A.J. Brown is,
he's a lot cheaper.
He might be.
Could be, yeah.
Could not be.
And then as far as when this
came together so the eagles were really big game hunting all off season as far as targets and i i
like the way you describe that i like the way you describe that that was really huh you can steal it
if you want you think you created it i do like the the way you describe that, though. That is maybe your term there in the entire free agency.
Could have created it.
It's true.
These guys are hunting exotics out here.
Big game hunters over there.
They were in the market, what, Tyreek Hill, right?
I think all of them.
I mean, that's what Howie Roseman does is every big trade he wants to be in the mix.
So here's how this broke down.
I would say about 2 o'clock local time. So like five o'clock Eastern time, I got a tip
that this was in the works and happening, called around, checked on it. It wasn't there yet,
checked back. And then basically last night around, like when, you know, probably a couple minutes before it got out there, they agreed to terms on the contract.
And it had to be. And then there, you know, you can't do a physical, but you can send some scans back and forth.
You can send some medical reports just to make sure everything is OK.
They did all that deal comes together.
And once the contract was agreed to, then the trade goes through and it all happened like, you know, that is really, really fast for a blockbuster trade to come together.
In the end, he gets four years, $100 million.
So I would say A.J. Brown's probably pretty happy.
57 guaranteed.
Report it like you reported Aaron Roth.
57 guaranteed.
Yeah, okay.
You're out there reporting these fake numbers while Hollywood Brown's hopping on a plane right in front of your face I think he had a Vegas him and his girl were in Vegas and they flew down to
Arizona to make that draft party that draft party in Arizona looked fucking epic by the way that
photo that dude's doing hey I like this new look at that track I mean that really is awesome is it
not I mean that is what other team had that? Did any other team have that type of – There's no way.
That place is packed.
I don't know.
It's also crazy because, like, you know, you do – everyone gets all excited about the first-round pick.
Who's it going to be?
And then instead of that, you get Hollywood Brown,
and then he's literally there.
I mean, the whole thing is wild.
And as far as the Cardinals, you know, we all obviously have spent, we all obviously have spent so much time talking about
Who is that?
That's the third time you've been interrupted there.
Anything good happening? It's draft weekend.
I've missed a couple calls.
We'll see. Hopefully it's nothing crazy.
I blame you guys if it is.
We'll just check Ari Miroff because he had all the news.
He beat the shit out of you.
Go ahead. Sorry about it.
Still walking around with his one airpod probably.
That one airpod's all the picks ahead of you guys.
Connected to everything.
He was tipping picks last night. We loved it.
I'm a firm believer
in non-pick tipping.
By the way, hold on. You want to say hello, Tom?
Is that the arrow?
Brady?
Oh, shit. Look how to say hello, Tom? Is that the arrow? Brady? Oh, shit.
Arrow.
Look how good you look, Tom.
Oil change.
You realize Ian's talking to you from just like somebody's hotel bed right here in the suite that we're doing live shots in?
Yeah, he had AirPods on earlier.
He was all boozed up.
He sounded too bad.
We had to take him out.
Yeah, yeah.
We understand that, Tom.
Great to see you, dude.
You too, man.
Hey, Tom, how did you—
Thanks for having me on the show in the last nine months.
Oh, you just came on.
Tom, you're on the show right now.
Literally right now.
Okay, so we made it.
Alright, bye.
He speaks for the NFL.
It's hard to have a conversation with him.
You know that, Ian. Do you ever tell him that?
Every time we talk to him, it's literally
like we're just talking to a memo.
It's like, all right.
There's no give and take.
Like, whenever we say something to him, he's like, don't you think that's kind of a –
and he's like, well, and then he goes like, pause 40.
NFL jargon.
It's hard.
It's like, all right, Tom.
He was wearing a sweet suit, though, I have to say.
Yeah, you kind of look like a hungover guy,
and he looks like he's ready to go to work on the draft i do not have my makeup on when i put my makeup on it's
all going to come together agreed all right plus i got plus and i know you were going to ask so i'll
just interrupt you sushi socks today okay what did we vote on that did the people vote on they
were plus 300 to go day two. I know that. Wow.
That's crazy.
That was pretty good.
That was actually pretty good.
Not really, but whatever.
No, that was funny.
I mean, you were the one making a big deal out of the fucking Sox.
Remember, there was an entire NFL Network post.
Oh, my God, what Sox he went to sushi once in. Make sure you vote.
What happened to the Hulkamania one?
Yeah.
Hey, brother.
Those were, I wore them last night, and they were a huge hit in the community. In the community. Which community? I know which community. Yeah. Hey, brother. Those were I wore them last night and they were a huge hit in the community. In the community.
Which community? I know which community.
Yeah.
These are my people now.
Alright, let's move along.
Be careful. Tori Dondi, obviously
an incredibly
active night last night. Does
Debo Samuel hate this fucking guy now?
Because he was able to get
AJ on the move, Hollywood on the move.
We didn't even know he repped Hollywood, by the way.
Oh, this is Tori Dondi right here.
Is Debo on the move today?
Is that what that is?
And what do you think about Baker?
Because the Carolina Panthers didn't take a quarterback.
Does that potentially happen today or later on?
Okay, start with the Debo one.
So the Jets offered pick 10 and a pick swap.
So basically, like, would be the equivalent of between pick 13 and 14.
So pick 10 and a little more for, and a little less, excuse me, for Debo Samuel.
And the 49ers wouldn't do it.
Lions had an offer on the table.
Wow.
49, and of course, obviously, the Lions ends up moving up for Jameson Williams.
So they got their guy.
Eventually.
You want to tell this to Debo, bring're going to fuck yourself? Bring him to Detroit.
All right, sorry about it.
No, it's all right.
49ers just wouldn't engage, and I think everyone was sort of waiting like,
all right, well, obviously they're just going to do this deal.
They're just going to – and they just didn't.
And so now, like, he's not happy.
When's he going to show up?
I don't know.
And I think they're going to try to make this better, but, like, will they?
Like, there's a lot more questions than answers on the Debo Samuel situation
now that he didn't get traded last night.
Crazy to hear that there was actually two legitimate offers,
because remember the reports were that the Jets were going to make an offer
they couldn't refuse.
Turns out they did.
Yeah, and they refused all of them.
And it didn't even sound like they engaged at all.
Like, we've heard teams talk at press conferences, you know, Mike,
it was either,
I think it was Vrabel who said he can't envision a situation without AJ
Brown, then traded him. 49ers were telling the truth.
They basically were like, we don't want to do it.
And he's too good of a player. And then they didn't do it.
Vrabel was on our show chit-chatting about AJ Brown.
He said he loved him or whatever. We'll figure it out.
But I think that's what he had to say at the time. John Lynch was the one
that said, I couldn't imagine a time not wanting
Debo. Let's move on. So Debo, you don't
think Debo's moving then? There's no reason
for them to answer calls on second night if they're not answering calls
on the first night, right?
Right. I mean, I guess somehow they could
do it. Adding a pick for next year may be
possible. I just haven't
sensed anything that changed.
You asked about Baker.
Bingo.
So, you know, obviously there's some interest from the Carolina Panthers. They did not take a quarterback last night, took to,
took a really good player, but did not take a quarterback. So, you know,
if the value is right, I could say they would do it. You know,
they could do a deal, but if you're the Browns, you know,
you do have a little bit of leverage here because you could just keep Baker, who you have to pay
anyway, and wait for a quarterback injury
for someone who has to have him.
If you're the Panthers,
you do kind of need him,
but you don't want to overpay for someone
another team basically can't keep on the roster.
So, we'll see who
gives in or see if they can
figure this out a little bit, but it is kind of a
complicated deal to make happen.
So Tepper and Haslam are just staring at each other right now,
just staring at each other.
You don't want that guy on your team.
Of all the things that I said, that probably is the best summation of this.
Yeah, they're just staring at each other trying to figure out
who's going to do what.
But they still got Sam Darnold too.
You know, there's some people around the NFL that are like,
by the way, way baker if you hear
this this is not my words okay i am an observe and reporter motherfucker bingo okay i see other
people say it i say it because we got to fill three and a half hours every fucking day that's
right somebody people have said is baker that big of an upgrade over sam darnold that you're going
to pay him another 19 million dollars and that the overall consensus is like no the browns are
going to have to pay him if anybody's going to him but if they're gonna pay him why would they move
on from him they're gonna have to get something in return there right and we don't know what's
gonna happen with deshaun watson could obviously could be suspended and having baker mayfield who
whatever you think of him and the you know across the, it's pretty split. I probably like him more than a lot of people.
I think he could be pretty good.
But he's still better than anyone else you would have to play however many games Deshaun Watson is suspended.
If he is suspended, that is the Browns' leverage because they shouldn't want to give him away.
They're going to be a good team.
They'd want to stay competitive if Deshaun's suspended.
Jacoby Percet was brought in there, too.
He's an absolute dog if he has to be with a good team go ahead tone uh ian what uh a lot of people
were wondering this morning uh jermaine johnson was projected to go top 10 and he fell all the
way to the 20s when the jets traded up to get him is there is there a reason so this was one of the
things i was trying to figure out last night because he should have gone around like 10, 11, 12.
Instead he went, it was either 25 or whatever it was, 25 or 26.
And honestly, I couldn't find a reason why he quote-unquote fell.
He probably went a little later than we all thought.
He's a little bit of a different guy.
He doesn't have any off-the- the field concern so it's not like that maybe he'll reserve different personalities so he's probably not for
everyone but to should that cause anyone to fall like i don't think so i think it just he fell
because it wasn't a fit for some of the teams that took other players like there's no it's like
when jok fell to the browns everyone's like why why why sometimes these guys just fall
because they're not fits on the guys who would have taken them uh only one quarterback was taken
last night kenny pickett turns out to be the guy uh malik willis has obviously been hilarious on
twitter ever since then he's from liberty i assume he has enough chips on his shoulder of people not
thinking he's the guy this is kind of what was being said, like, leading up into free agency period.
Like, there is not a lot of quarterbacks in this draft that are first-round caliber.
Then there was a lot of smoke that these guys were going to potentially get
real expensive around the draft.
That did not happen at all.
At what point did you get a sense of that being the case?
Because we were watching along, and after six, we're like, okay,
so literally it's going to be a while here before that
happens did the quarterbacks know that going into the night or was there an actual thought
out of this quarterback class that it was going to get hot on the quarterbacks at some point last
night i think by by a couple hours before the draft it was evident that carolina wouldn't take
a quarterback once that happened then it was like okay, okay, this could be a while.
Right?
Because, you know, the Saints sort of maybe have a need,
but I didn't get the sense they loved any of these guys either,
and I knew they weren't going to trade up for one.
So no one else needs one.
Because that's like what you were saying, you know,
we talked about all this before free agency.
Everyone filled their needs.
So nobody had to get one.
It's not like two years ago when the
jets basically didn't take a quarterback because they knew didn't sign a quarterback because they
knew they were going to get zach wilson everyone filled their needs no one had to reach so once
six didn't take one it was like okay this is going to be a while and then i'm looking you know it
gets it's late last night i'm looking looking at like 21, 22, 23.
I couldn't find any quarterback teams.
They weren't there.
So what did you start doing?
You just cracked open a whiskey?
How many drinks did you have on the air last night?
We didn't get a chance to watch it.
You weren't watching?
I think you were on it.
We did have NFL Network.
You said good job, but if you weren't watching,
did someone tell you that I did a good job?
No, we were all.
This is what I say to everybody, though, Ian.
You know that.
At this point, everybody knows.
I say, hey, you killed it.
I've never seen anything they do.
But I did see a couple clips.
You looked amazing.
You were inside, right?
He was inside.
Oh, yeah, Gale Force wins.
As opposed to outside because of the wins.
But were you on NFL Network last night, or were you on, like, the Ocho?
Oh, I was on NFL Network.
We had NFL Network on right here.
It looked like, judging by the things that I
saw, it was like when a
certain player was going to get
picked, Ian was already
pre-programmed like, hey, you're going to talk about this guy.
What do you mean?
I didn't sense
it was that way at all. What I try to
do is... Hey hey when this guy
gets picked we're going to go to you no matter where he gets
picked we're going to throw to you give him some background
information oh so he had a couple guys
and then somebody else had a couple guys
like what does happen is
I'll go through all this I'll take notes
or whatever and there's guys who like when they're picked
I'm like alright I need to get to this
like Tyler Smith from the Cowboys who everybody's losing their mind over that pick.
He had like a really interesting injury situation where they had to re-break his legs
to straighten them out because he was bow-legged.
And I was like – and now he's fine.
So I was like, oh, that's a good thing to talk about.
So when he gets picked, I thought it was going to be a round two.
But when he gets picked, I was like, oh, cool.
I'll come on and say it.
So there's a lot of things like that.
Tom Palacero wrote that? Is that what he said?
Yeah, he didn't write it.
That actually...
There must have been a memo.
No, no, no.
We were combining. We worked on an injury
story together that never ended up running.
That blurb, he did
put some of the words together,
I would say.
Tell him we know those words were put into his mural.
When you talk to him about
non-football stuff, is it just like
K-9 Compute?
No!
We talk about plenty of non-football
stuff. We've also went out to some very nice dinners
in Vegas, by the way.
He eats?
Well, I think he plugs a vape into his ear.
Okay, that's what I figured.
That's what I thought.
WP40, please.
I was going to say.
More motor oil.
Dude.
Robots eat.
Remember that guy?
Whenever he had to blow his nose, he blew his back out because the robots.
Deed, deed, deed, deed.
Not supposed to blow nose at this time.
Wham.
Now he's down at his kid's soccer game.
I mean, he is literally the greatest retainer of information this world has ever seen.
Honestly, I believe that Tom Pellicero is one of the most talented readers of all time.
I would say he's an excellent reader.
No one dominated the memo world like Tom Pellicero.
Who can hear us, by the way? Hi, Tom.
Hi, boy, Tom.
Tom!
Tom! Tom, Pat boy, Tom. Tom!
Tom!
Tom, Pat's calling you.
Tom!
He's plugged in.
Yeah, he might be charging for the day.
Tom!
Tom.
What's up?
Actual question.
Yeah.
You hear me?
Yeah.
So we were a part of the book club, Aaron Rodgers book club. We sold a lot of books.
It might have been the biggest book club in the world. Actually.
I've never read a book in my life. Okay.
I'm not great at the entire reading of a long thing and being able to retain
it. Now, if it's a tweet or something, I'm pretty good.
I can remember it like it's nothing.
Have you always had, which by the way, our articles, just shorter articles.
So you give me an article I can read that and I can retain it and I'm off and
running for you.
Have you always had the ability just to read the entire book and then boom, be able to drop into like chapter 47 and
then into 10 if you have to out of nowhere. I think that's what we, that's literally how we
talk about you. We're like, Hey, Tom Pellicero gets the memo from Goodell. Cause everybody gets
these fucking memos and somehow it goes into your neuro link in the back of your head. And then
you're able to go on TV like two minutes later and recite that thing word for word.
Has that always been an ability of yours?
I would say the greatest compliment I ever remember getting in like my school years, like college days, was one time a professor wrote on a paper,
I can't actually tell if you read the book, but you made a very compelling argument.
Well, you read the book but you made a very compelling argument well you wrote the book you probably your research paper on the book was probably not read that book yeah we had to write
an essay on it but the point is being able to pick out the parts that matter without actually
doing consuming the entire thing i read a 300 page memo you you know how to find the important stuff
well you do a great job we appreciate it's good to
see you again by we gotta get you on the show tom we gotta get you back on the wonderful i'm here
for you anytime you're the best all right um let's go to uh tom schmidt yeah rap sheet there
were a lot of rumors last night about the packers how heavily engaged in trading up were they
actually like was that ever a possibility that they were going to move up to get one of those receivers or no they i thought they were going to the word i got and
you'll have to ask uh your favorite quarterback about this but the word i got was that trailing
burks was the guy that rogers liked that he had done the most work on that he kind of wanted
and he went early like he i mean obviously we know we
went to tennessee so we went earlier than we thought and i mean so yes they made all the
calls i thought they were going to move up receivers went like there was a quick run around
like 8 to 12 i think it was yeah and then when burks went they were done because they weren't
going to trade up for any of the other guys. So, like, everybody, of course, was like, I can't believe the Packers, you know, took defense or whatever.
It's like they weren't going to get the guys they wanted.
They were picking too far back.
So, like, my guess is they'll pick one or maybe two today.
Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, Rapsh, you dropped it.
Hold on.
Aaron said he liked Jameson Williams, I think.
And also Traylon Burks.
Last night he told that to us.
He thinks the most NFL ready was Jameson Williams from his thing.
And I don't know if you mentioned Burks or not,
but if you're hearing that, that means you probably know something.
Did Pellicer read this?
Go ahead, Connor.
Yeah, Rob, she's kind of a two-parter here.
You dropped a pretty crazy story right after Trevon Walker got drafted
about the accident he was in, what happened there.
And then also, can you confirm whether...
How long ago, too?
Yeah, how long ago?
And did Chris Angel get the first three picks right?
Because we weren't really updated on that.
I was on ESPN.
I was on ESPN.
I wasn't watching that broadcast.
What?
I was on ESPN.
I was clearly on ABC.
Like 1,000%.
I didn't know that.
I thought he was... Oh, Kuy there with Desmond. I thought he was every time.
Oh, Kuypner, yeah.
I thought he was right.
He said, if I get this right, I want to take Kuypner's spot.
I figured he was on every show because he's a magician.
That's actually a great thought.
It's wrong, but that's a great thought.
He did get it right, though.
He did?
Yeah, yeah.
So he's going to replace Kuypner next year.
Let's go.
He fucking does it again.
Chris Angel's unfucking believable.
Yeah, I guess.
I've never seen him.
I feel like that would be a great show to go to.
All right.
I have.
Anyways.
Yeah, if you can stand and clap, you'll love it.
He wasn't throwing his fastball when I went.
All right.
I think he's found his love of magic again.
He has a whole new show.
It's very apparent he's all in.
He's got the football pants when he's doing Raider stuff.
Hold on.
So when you told him he was doing a nice job, that was not accurate.
I never told him that.
I've never told Chris Angel that.
I actually – that was the most uncomfortable I've ever been.
I was at a show, and he forced me to give him a standing ovation.
Me and A.Q. Shipley were actually there because we were all so hungover.
It was like day three of us being there, And we were so hung over, so sick.
And we're like, all right, we're going to delay us going to the bars.
We're going to do a shows like people do shows.
We're going to do shows.
Mind Freak's got a show.
Okay.
In the hotel we're in.
Let's fucking go to Mind Freak.
Sign me up.
So we got on and get the best tickets available.
We're in the front fucking row.
And that was a mistake.
It was an immediate mistake.
And then we couldn't get out of there until everybody stood up and started clapping because he needed the energy to spin the saw
to cut the woman in half and we were the only two i think at the time that weren't a part of his cult
that were standing and clapping we were getting yelled at by the people around us in the stands
that the lady was going to die if we didn't stand up so we stand up we're all right here we go what
almost puking at this point by the the way, with how sick we are.
And then all of a sudden, big camera comes out,
Chris Angel standing in front of everybody,
me and AQ are in the front row giving him a full standing ovation.
And it's like, all right, they cut the woman in half, show's over.
Who knows if she lived?
Did we bring enough energy or not?
But anyways, his next show's better.
I know it.
It's with Cirque du Soleil or something like that.
Anyway, go on, pal.
What was the other?
I got to put the makeup on a sec.
What was the other part?
Trevon Walker car accident.
Oh, yeah.
Trevon Walker.
So this was on April 16th, I believe, after the Georgia, whatever the Georgia spring game was.
It was after that.
Him and Quay Walker were in an accident where they wrecked two parked cars.
And it was like a serious accident and there was no
citations and he was not somehow not injured um pretty dramatic situation two weeks before the
draft though i'd say jesus hope they're okay happy they're both first rounders after crashing into
park cars no citations no serious injuries just like you in vegas pal keep killing it we can't
wait to watch you again tonight on the NFL Network.
I appreciate it, guys.
Thanks for watching.
Actually, do watch this time.
Oh, you did so good last night.
Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport.
Yeah, Ian Rappaport.
You shaved your mustache last night.
You fit in well in Indianapolis at the firefighter convention.
Yeah, a lot of stolen valor, though.
I didn't want to make it seem like I was a firefighter.
And I got a couple of those comments,
and I was like, okay, I can't be doing this.
I did.
Well, he had gym shorts on and something else.
I mean, he looked like an asshole.
Yeah, absolute prick.
He looked like an asshole.
I looked at him at one point.
I was like, you look absurd.
And he was, I mean, there was a couple places
where the BPMs were just catching our bones.
Yeah, right in the sweet spot.
You know what I mean?
So he was.
Yeah, I was loving it.
Jim Shorts.
Oh, yeah, Jim Shorts.
Yeah, terrible shoes, obviously.
Terrible shoes.
Fucking shitty-ass shoes he wears or whatever.
He has stains all over the Jim Shorts.
Nothing matched.
He looked like an asshole.
But his goddamn, he had a Patriots hat on, camo, and then he had this mustache, and then
his mullet was flowing out.
And in the firefighter convention, we're talking, when I say this, I mean this.
There's like thousands of firefighters now
from all around the country that are in Indianapolis.
And I don't want to say like stereotypes are a real thing,
but there's a lot of similar looking motherfuckers
roaming around Indianapolis right now.
Connor went to order a beer and the bartender said,
you got a great firefighter mustache.
He said, I'm actually not a firefighter.
Yeah.
But right to Connor's left was the same exact mustache on a little bit rounder head firefighter from Long Island.
Right to his right, another great mustache on a rather large fat head firefighter from Massachusetts.
Large fat.
Okay.
Firefighter from Massachusetts.
Then like right behind Connor, another incredible mustache with a cap,
a little bit thinner build.
Oh, here's a firefighter from fucking Montana.
So we're talking mustache city last night.
You felt what?
You got alpha?
You felt like you were a beta with that mustache?
I mean, definitely out of those four, and there was plenty others. i was last place in the mustache you know competition
but it was more so about people saying oh that's a good firefighter mustache and i'm sitting here
like i'm an asshole so i i am not one of these yeah i do not want to take away from what these
guys are putting on yeah i'm not about the stolen valor game so i just figured you know what i'll
shave it let the mustache you got a whole weekend ahead of you here in Indy. Bingo. And if I go out there and get another,
you know what, you're a great firefighter, aren't you?
Thank you for your service.
I can't take that.
I would love to.
I texted me last night,
do you still have that fire helmet you wore two years ago?
Yeah, what's that all about?
You were trying to go out there and just be full fucking Lieutenant Dan
or whatever the hell that guy is?
Oh, I mean, I would love to be Lieutenant Dan,
but aside from the wheelchair.
But I do think that if I were to continue to go out the entire weekend, then there's a chance.
I get a few more firefighter comments, and I can't have that.
I just can't.
No, you can't, obviously.
Hey, there were some zombie firefighters last night.
There were some boys fucked up.
I bet.
Some Fu Manchus, too.
It wasn't just the stash.
There was a lot of all-time facial hair we saw.
My uncle, firefighter chief for a long time in Pittsburgh.
I have nothing but the utmost respect for the firefighters.
Plenty of holidays where his beeper would go off and he'd be gone
because somebody fucking put the turkey in too long.
I have nothing but respect for everything that they do.
Run towards danger, away from it.
Last night, though, it sounded like they were all running towards the bar.
Oh, yeah.
They were ripping it.
There was a lot of boozed-up firefighters around Indianapolis last night.
And you know what?
More power to them.
Enjoy it.
Go get it.
That was one bar we were talking about that was closed.
But there were still about 200 firefighters around the bar inside.
And they wouldn't let any more people in.
They literally look at the exact same, too.
We drove down the street.
And I'm like, oh, there must be some sort of fucking white person convention
going on down here.
And then we get in there, we start seeing all the mustaches,
and they're like, somebody comes up, they're like,
I'm pretty drunk.
Are you Pat McAfee?
And I was like, no, I hear it all the time.
You're really boozed up or whatever.
He goes, I've never been to Indianapolis.
Fucking, another guy comes up.
He's like, we literally were like,
we're going to Indianapolis. We're going to see Pat McAfee. That was a joke
we were making. You're actually
Pat McAfee or am I way too drunk right now?
I'm like, I'm not Pat McAfee. We should take a picture
though tomorrow morning when you come out of your little blackout.
You'll realize you took a picture with somebody that isn't Pat McAfee.
Who are you? They were like, my name's Dan.
I'm a firefighter in Long Island.
This guy's a firefighter. This guy's a firefighter. That guy's a firefighter.
And it was at that moment we were like, ah, firefighter convention.
So everybody here is firefighters.
He's like, yes.
Our entire fucking department's here.
Look down and dance for it.
That's the Long Island Fire Department.
They were fucking killing it or whatever.
It was good for them having a night.
We appreciate everybody.
Enjoy Indianapolis.
And hopefully these bars around here will be a little bit fucking more hospitable.
It's unbelievable what happened last night.
Those bouncers were trying to cost their bartenders a lot of money last night.
I couldn't even fathom.
He was a little guy, too.
Hey, you get snapped in the fucking half, pal.
Unless he knows karate.
I'm not 100% sure.
That guy needs to relax a little bit.
Tone Diggs, big night for you last night.
Joining us now is a man who exited the draft spectacular
in the most vulgar fashion of all time.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm not doing this anymore.
Just hangs up on the entire show.
Hangs up on our biggest night.
He is a college football national champion,
a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion,
a COVID Cup champion, A.J. Hawk.
Why'd you hang up on us, dude?
I 100%
did not mean to.
I think I might have been trying to vacuum something
quick, and I hit the mouse, hit the X,
and I popped off, and I told Zeke,
I just texted with Zeke 10 minutes ago,
I sat here for about
40 seconds, maybe a minute, said, hey,
you might call me back, but I figured we were wrapping the show,
so I just called it a night.
Yeah, it was a great exit.
It was a great exit.
Real A.J. Hawkey.
I really didn't mean to, honestly.
What were your thoughts on the draft as a whole?
We talked about it. It was a story about runs, you know, defensive end early,
then offensive tackle, then there was corner,
then there was wide receiver, then it was trade, trade, trade,
and then, you know, everything kind of happens at the end.
I do feel bad, and we got a lot of tweets from this,
because we were
some of the drivers for making the Cincinnati Bengals
a better organization with the indoor practice facility
which is just a bubble that's being popped up. They could have done
100 years ago. Literally, they've been doing it at Duquesne.
I think all you need is like two people just going
and every single winner you can get
a bubble. But shout out to Cincinnati
making the Super Bowl and then also
becoming a 2022 franchise
we appreciate the hell out of you we love the people of cincinnati with that being said your
draft pick so late we were dead by the time the bangles draft pick came on we did not react at
all no got a lot of tweets from banglis people saying we didn't even address the bangles that's
what it's like when you're picking 31 okay when it's seven hours into the goddamn thing there's
a chance we might miss it we might be looking at the light at the end of
the tunnel okay we might be doing that we apologize bangles got better last night oh yeah bangles got
better what are your thoughts on the draft as a whole aj what's the big takeaway for you well i
mean bangles fans should be happy the situation they're in hey get used to it you hope to be
drafting back here at the back end of the draft from here on out, don't they? Absolutely. They
took Daxton Hall.
Safety for Michigan. Yeah, he's a good
player. Daxton Hill. He's a good player.
Yeah, he can play ball. Yeah, Daxton Hill is an
absolute player. Congrats to the Bengals.
I think, I don't know if you guys already
hit it. You probably went around the room. What's your
takeaway? At least
for me, other than Chris Angel, I feel like
the Jets and the eagles
most likely won the draft well the giants as well i mean anybody that had multiple picks in the first
round you have but really no one knows though this is like saying who wins the offseason like we got
to see how they turn out but the jets did maximize their picks i feel like they got some good value
you're saying that i went around the room and said what's your big takeaway i didn't but what
you just said is what we did say earlier we have no fucking idea how anybody did the giants and jets got
multiple people in the first round so we'd assume that they won the eagles as well they get aj brown
the cardinals get hollywood brown so it's easy to say in the moment like seems like this team
lost that's the question who lost the draft i feel like it was a very positive draft for most
teams doesn't it we're not sitting here singling like certain people i'd say oh you're a big dumb
stooge i think the negativity went towards the cowboys i think there was some negativity towards the cowboys that none of
us know by the way not that might be the best fucking offense attack in the history of the nfl
we have no clue but it did seem like because there was kind of the parody of all these players
that everybody could kind of spin that they had a positive night whenever there's like tears
if you don't trade into that tier, people think that
you're being lazy or not being committed.
So, oh, we lost. We could have won that. If you draft
somebody of a lower tier, when the media
is telling you that there's a higher tier person left,
you could probably do that. But it felt like
everybody's expectations of these players was basically
the same. It's like, hey, this is basically
the deepest draft or first round
that we've ever seen. Although the top talent
isn't there, there's a lot in the middle.
And I think that's why everybody's like, hey, good draft.
A team that we didn't talk about today, which I hate doing.
They did lose Hollywood Brown, but getting Kyle Hamilton at 14
and Linderbaum at 25 or whatever.
Ravens had a – those are two pretty solid guys
if you look at their college reputation.
Yeah, and Lamar Jackson's what the fuck tweet was not about Lindenbaum.
That was about something else.
Allegedly, we'll find out.
Joining us now is a NFL insider for Fox, but he'll be covering the draft tonight and tomorrow on NFL Network.
Emmy-nominated co-host.
Oh, man.
I know, every time.
I was just thinking about that. What's going on? We don't know. We. I know. Every time. I was just thinking about that.
What's going on?
We don't know.
We don't know.
Hopefully you can tell us.
Oh, you're trying to say the show's breaking up?
No.
Don't put that in the universe, AJ.
I don't know what's going on.
I'm trying to get educated.
Don't act like everybody knows what every show is doing.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is my fault.
Can I be a human, dude?
I'm sorry.
I've got emotions.
I was in the middle of introducing this guy.
I'm like, multiple time Emmy nominated. Who said this human, dude? I'm sorry, I got emotions. I was in the middle of introducing this guy. I'm like, multiple time Emmy nominated.
Who said this?
Kurt Warner said, you need to feel your emotions more.
Kurt said that last night.
Well, Kurt, Big Z, his wife, Northern Iowa, the whole thing.
They brought some emotions out of me.
I'm never doing that again.
Okay, unless I watch The Ultimate Underdog Story again.
American Underdog.
American Underdog.
Unless I watch that movie again, I'm not going to experience those.
But I am getting a little bit broken up because we watch that show every fucking morning.
Every day.
There's a reason they're two-time, two-time Emmy-nominated.
One of the co-hosts who might be able to tell us what the future looks like, both for the show and the draft, Peter Schrager.
Yeah, Peter!
What's up, Schrager?
Something unpredictable
But in the end it's right
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Of your life
And that's what we say about Good Morning Football
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That's why we love you
That's why we love it
We love the gang
We love the crew
Come on
It's so hard to say goodbye goodbye
to yesterday
sing some more Kelly Shregs
um
yeah
what's your problem dude
these are the
these are the songs
in my head
but we just gotta
keep on moving
uh let's talk draft
hold on
what was that uh
that vitamin C song
that was like
every single
graduation song
yeah
as we go on, we remember all the times we had together.
Segments about the bullshit we all bought in 2011.
Love you, high school. We're bummed about it.
We're bummed about good morning football and what the potential future holds.
The internet doesn't know shit about fuck, but it does feel like everybody's on the same page there.
We hope you'll figure it out, Shregs, because that's where you came into our hearts.
That's where you came into our lives, That's where you came into our lives.
And we appreciate you for joining us right now.
Let's talk about the draft.
I don't know if you knew this.
I would assume you did because you had to feel pretty good.
We were keeping track of all the mock draft experts
because we had our guy, Mitt, competing against everybody.
And if Mitt had the best mock draft out of all the experts,
he would have won $20,000.
Turns out, he came in last.
Damn.
Now, we will not give out the names of who came in second to last,
third to last, whatever the case is.
But we will say, Schrags had the best mock at around one.
First place.
Hey, baby, Schrags, you knew your shit, dude.
Thank you, Pat.
Thank you, and I'll take my flowers a little bit.
I had 29 of the 32 guys drafted last night.
Now, I didn't have the right team for everybody, but I had 29 of 32.
I had GMs texting me and being like, we use that as kind of an idea of who's going, who's going where.
That is the ultimate honor.
I bust my ass on that mock draft.
You know how much I take it seriously.
Now, I got some wrong.
ultimate honor i bust my ass on that mock draft you know how much i take seriously now i got some wrong i don't know if i want to go through all the wrong ones but i'll take a moment to take my
flowers that i kind of had the right guys going to the right places and we knew that one that run
on wide receivers was going to happen and i said it yesterday on your show if the packers were
indeed going to get one of those guys they had to be aggressive they opted not to be well
congratulations you did it go ahead aj shrink so now the question like how early are we going to
see a quarterback taken uh here in the second round i don't have a team i don't have a place
like honestly i said it last night uh i was asked about it i said i knew pickett and willis were
gonna go i just don't know where and when but i don't think it's gonna happen in the top 20
i was shocked i thought willis or ritter to the steelers that was the intel i was getting
they go pickett who they watch every day at practice,
and they kept that pretty close to the vest.
They must have really liked them because, as you know, guys,
the Steelers, when you practice, the parallel field next to them,
it's not another building.
It's not five minutes away.
They share the facility fields with Pittsburgh Panthers.
So they've had their eyes on pick it all this time.
But I think Willis will go in the third round or the second round.
I'm sorry.
And then we'll find out from there.
But I've got a lot of people texting me about Brees Hall, the running back,
or where do you think Alec Pierce, the wide receiver from Cincinnati, goes?
Do we need to move up to get him?
No one's asking about the quarterbacks.
And I'm curious to see just how soon it is.
If this is even the case where, hey, it didn't happen in in the first round it might be a little bit into the second round too
I wonder if Tomlin and Colbert were judging every quarterback they met with against Pickett right
because you're talking about the practice field and practice field definitely important game field
uh game tape obviously more important than practice field how he handles himself around
the building though with the janitors the chefs the fucking wait staff everything like they were probably comparing every single quarterback they met with
with everything they had on kenny pickett and with colbert this being his last draft
kind of sailing off into the sunset they seemed pumped about getting kenny pickett too did you
see that video of tom and skipping into the room to call kenny pickett and get out there it's crazy
untucked looking like just thrilled that he fell.
They didn't think an Amelia Pierce picket would fall on them.
The 20.
And this is kind of cool.
There's kind of a cool symmetry here.
When Ozzie Newsome was in his last draft with the Ravens,
he traded back into the first round and was like,
here's Lamar Jackson.
This is my last first round pick.
I'm getting Lamar Jackson.
The expectation is Colbert is going to actually move on. And it's like, hey, here's my last pick. This is my last first round pick. I'm getting Lamar Jackson. The expectation is Colbert is going to actually move on.
And it's like,
Hey,
here's my last pick.
I'm going quarterback.
And you guys now have Kenny Pickett,
who as much as we were hyping up Malik Willis,
I think of the 32 teams in the league of the 20,
I talked about with quarterback.
Most of them had Pickett above Willis on their boards.
You and Cliff Kingsbury,
obviously very close friends.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Came in here together. Yeah. Came in here.
Together.
Together, yeah.
My guy.
I've seen group text messages with you and Cliff Kingsbury.
I've seen them.
You guys, very tight.
He told us only four people, and Ian Rapport's reporting maybe six people,
including Tori Dondi and his agent, and Hollywood Brown being a part of it.
Only four people knew about that, but that was weeks in advance.
DaCosta said, if that gets out, we are canceling the deal.
So everybody was kind of locked, tight, sealed.
We need to keep this thing in.
That never happens in 2022.
Did you get an inkling that the Cardinals were up to something?
I assume you did.
You just didn't know exactly what it was.
I'll tell you this, okay, because I'm not going to put? I assume you did. You just didn't know exactly what it was. I'll tell you this.
Okay.
Cause I'm not going to put anyone in a tough spot about a month ago.
Oh,
geez.
You're going to put somebody in a tough spot.
There's only four people that fucking do. So that's three people are going to know.
Cliff and I went through the draft because it was post combine and it was
about to be post free agency.
And he was like,
these,
these fucking wide receivers are awesome.
And there's a lot of them.
And we have 23.
And we went through and he's like, there's no way I'm getting one of these guys.
There's just no way.
So he knew that Jamison Williams, who he loved,
and he knew that Olave, who he loved,
and he knew that Wilson and London were going to be gone.
I don't think he might necessarily have expected Burks and Dotson also to be gone. So they had a plan. I respect the hell out of it. They had
a plan. Let's go make a plan and get a wide receiver. That player individually, Marquise
Brown, was highlighted. This is one of Kyler's best friends from college. And it's also a guy
that absolutely torched, torched cliff when they were in college playing
against each other texas tech in oklahoma so cliff circled this one and i mean they had to
keep it quiet i did not know the trade was going down i did know that they were going wide receiver
one way or another they were going to figure this thing out and they got their wide receiver and i
know that kyler as well as cliff is very happy this morning okay so the jets a team that you were talking about you said sauce was basically a lock there I think a few
weeks back like you're like a sauce is going to the Jets this is a layup almost the way you were
speaking about it as a matter of fact the Jets got better last night it feels like they even trade
back in and get three number ones overall they see around the AFC East the Dolphins are going
all in the Bills of the Bills and fucking bill belichick just got a guy out of the university of tennessee chattanooga
strange strange who has the uh duck is how darius butler described it the old school uh face mask
there but did they feel like they had to do something in the draft here is that why they
traded up for a third pick in the in the first round or what do you feel from the jets in the
sense over there yeah so sauce and
wilson was who i had them taken and they were happy that that actually worked out they got
sauce and wilson they would have been happy for the day and then around pick 15 uh joe d who you
gotta have on the show joe douglas is the man he he's looking at things and he sees jermaine
johnson's falling now i can tell you this i i don't know actually if they had him ranked above
tibideau but they were for a while debating who do we like more, Thibodeau or Johnson,
Thibodeau or Johnson, and they end up having Johnson on the top eight of their board.
So let's say that's the case.
It's slipping and slipping.
Hey, why did he fall?
So there's a couple.
His age, all right, he's 24, I believe.
That was one thing I heard.
His interviews were good.
And this is a story that I texted with some folks there today, the Jets.
I'm like, are you thrilled about Johnson?
They're like, yeah, we're thrilled about Johnson.
I'm like, yeah, but what was the story with his past?
Because he went to community college in Georgia, but he couldn't get on the field.
They're like, no, no, he got on the field, and they transferred to Florida State.
This dude bet on himself.
This dude bet on himself at Georgia with all those guys.
He was like, I don't know what they think of me here,
but I'm going to transfer out of this program, go to Florida State,
and win ACC Defensive Player of the Year.
I'll tell you right now, that building, all those guys,
from the scouts to the coaches, I know a lot of them,
they are thrilled with how their first round went.
And I haven't even talked to them about Sauce or Wilson.
They're thrilled about Jermaine Johnson somehow falling and then being able to find a trade
partner to move up so they're i mean again it's like you guys said it's april 28th everyone's
freaking out we did we won the draft means shit come guys don't develop but jermaine johnson is
a guy they are beyond thrilled about and he's fired up too and wants to prove everybody that
not only was he worthy of a top five pick or top 20 pick he was the best pass rusher in this draft and you all pass on way to
go jets go ahead aj sure because now that we're past the first round are we going to see any of
these like blockbuster superstar trades like guys like debo baker jimmy g like are these things
going to happen or are we done with it now yeah Yeah, I knew there would be some talk of it.
I didn't think A.J. Brown was going to be traded yesterday.
If you remember, I think it was Vrabel came out a couple weeks ago
and was like, A.J. Brown's not being traded.
That's just what happens though sometimes.
As negotiations go on, he was traded.
And I think the numbers didn't make sense for Tennessee
and it did make sense for Philadelphia.
Tennessee's paying a quarterback a heck of a lot of money.iladelphia is not so they were able to make that trade uh debo so here i had eric armstead with me he eric armstead by the way awesome dude
got up at 5 a.m in the morning to come on good morning football in person in vegas while he's
here and we're talking about the debo stuff and and he's like, everyone in San Francisco in that building is like,
all right, just let cooler heads prevail here.
This is going to work itself out.
Debo is going to be one of ours.
And that's what I've been hearing from the San Francisco side.
As for Debo, I don't see him being traded over the next two days.
I simply don't.
Because if he was going to get dealt, well, 10th overall is a lot more appealing than a future first round pick. Or 10th overall is a lot more uh appealing than a future first
round pick or 12th overall is a lot more appealing they're like the fact he went throughout first
round and they didn't make a trade i don't think there's any package involving second and third
round picks or future first round picks that san francisco is going to want compared to what they
could have had yesterday you and rob reporter reporting with like certainty here is this
something that's known that the jets put put together an entire package for Debo?
And who else?
The Lions is what Rappaport?
Is this something that's publicly known or is this coming out today?
It might be coming out today.
I know the Jets were very interested in the connection between not only Robert Sala,
but also Mike LaFleur, who's the offensive coordinator for the Jets,
was the guy who was there when Debo was drafted and basically had him under his wing.
Jets would have loved it, but San Francisco, I don't know the details of the package.
And then Detroit, that's the first time I've heard of that.
But it would make sense if they made all those moves to go up and get Jamison Williams,
it would make sense that they would have been willing to do the same thing for Debo.
Go ahead, Todd.
Schrags, I know you had 29 of the 32 guys in your mock.
Three wrong.
Yeah, three wrong.
Yikes.
Outside of Strange to the patriots who are you
hearing was like the kind of biggest surprise or maybe the biggest reach of the first round
oh that's a good question you know i i think when you look at um you know malik willis is is a story
because i think everyone figured someone's going to trade back into the back at the end of the
first round and go get that guy say all right we'll get malik willis i think the fact that
jermaine john Johnson fell so much
was a surprise to a lot of people.
And again, I don't have a red flag on that one.
Like I've asked around.
I don't know where he still went.
Brees Hall is the best running back in this draft.
He didn't go at the end of the first round.
I think a lot of people thought that might happen.
But other than that, like it went with all the names.
Like we heard that guys like Elam and Dax Hill
were having this late push.
I thought Big George, Carl Aftis, was going to go.
He did.
It's those guys at the end of the first round that maybe people thought
were going to go a little earlier.
That was quite, if anything, a little bit of a surprise.
I'll say this about Strange also.
Can you tell us about your co-host, Sean McVay,
and Les being all boozed up doing a watch-along?
Was that a draft watch-along? Did they do it?
Was that a draft watch-along that we saw a video from?
Or was that their press conference?
They were having a good time.
I enjoy the hell out of McVay and Les,
the Super Bowl champions.
They get that house in the hills.
It's got a golf simulator.
It's got all this stuff.
They're doing a press conference.
They appear to be having a good time.
And Sean McVay goes,
and there we were.
I think we're going to get them at 100.
That shows that we know. People are going to say that was a shot at Bill,. I think we're going to get him at 100. That shows that we know.
People are going to say that was a shot at Bill,
but I don't think that's the case at all.
Sean loves Bill Belichick, right?
I talked to Sean already today.
Here's what this was.
And he woke up feeling sick about the whole thing.
And I'm like, all right, let's talk it out, what it is.
And he's like, no, we were looking at him,
and I was busting Les Snead's balls because I'm like,
this guy won't be available at 104. Why are we wasting oh so he was publicly talking shit to the gm like oh yeah remember we
were talking about this guy at 140 fucking idiot yeah yeah watching film of him at 104 and and here
he goes at 29 or wherever he went like what are we doing he also said he felt sick about the kid and
i don't know if he's connected with him, but they had Strange very high on their board, and he didn't want Strange,
it's an awesome day for him, he's a first-round pick,
to have the story of his draft day, week day one.
Sean, tell him not to worry.
Yeah, don't worry about that. Tell him not to worry about that.
Oh, yeah, Sean, he felt sick to his stomach, but I said, you'll get over it. He's like, yeah, I'll
probably get over it. Yeah, you get those hangover
sentimental moments where you start feeling bad.
Did I offend anybody last night?
Yeah, who? Bill Belichick and Cole
Strange. Oh my god.
Let me watch it back. Let me see what I said.
Oh my god. I was fucking
feeling this guy. Not everybody.
The Boston media
is having a field day on belichick um for that
pick and they're using his reaction as like justification that it's like it's all twisted
but yeah um i don't i don't know if we're gig like if another team took strange at 29 i'm probably
on the show today like how could you do that i don't know what it's belichick so we're like all
right makes sense yeah and that's how the Patriots fans are too, by the way.
Schrag's like, of course, Bill.
Of course, Bill took some no-name out of some small school
that nobody else knew about or had projected.
Guess what?
This guy's going to start for 20 years for us,
and we're just going to go on and do it.
And by the way, Bill's resume says that.
There's other coaches or GMs that will do that that are brand new,
and we're like, oh, this person's a fucking idiot.
They're trying to be Bill Belichick.
He took Logan Mankins, I, this person's a fucking idiot. They're trying to be Bill Belichick.
He took Logan Mankins, I think, 32nd a few years back.
And I say a few years when I first started doing this.
And I remember talking to another GM who's probably long out of football being like,
Logan Mankins is not a first date.
He might not even be a second date pick.
And then Logan Mankins goes on to have like maybe one of the best careers of any of the Patriots during that regime as far as offensive line goes.
So Kyle Duggar a couple years ago, people rolled their eyes.
He's been awesome for them.
So, again, it's not always pleasant, and it kind of is stinging when you're a fan
and you don't recognize the name because none of the mock drafts had him.
I'd say even with some misses in recent years,
Belichick is still pretty good when it comes to analyzing talent
and finding the right guys.
And as a follow-up to all those fans
that don't know the person's name, we
cover this every single day. We didn't know
20 of those guys. Who
knows what any of these dudes are going to become. Schrager knew.
29 out of 32. No big deal.
Go ahead, Tone. Schrager, one of the ones that
you didn't get right early was
Stingley to the Texans.
Did you think that was a lot of
late bullshit that they were saying?
Like they're doing a lot of research on this guy.
We might take him.
How did he end up going there?
Yeah, Nick Casario is the GM there, and he's a straight shooter,
and he tells me I'm not telling you shit.
So he's third overall, and he's like, you're my guy.
I love you.
But when it comes to the draft, I'm not telling you.
Then I got all this other teams being like, they're taking Stingley teams being like they're taking Stingley at three
They're taking Stingley at three and I think even in my mock drafts
I wrote
99% of the world is telling me Stingley at three
But I don't know the track record of this GM and why that would get out or who has that and who from the building
It's all you know, let me Smith isn't telling people in the media. We're taking Stingley at three
So I went with icky knowing that they had him high on their board and that people loved icky and I was wrong
And again a couple years ago I went with Icky knowing that they had him high on their board and that people loved Icky, and I was wrong.
And, again, a couple years ago it was Mac Jones and Trey Lance,
everyone in the world telling me that I should have gone with Trey,
but I just was stubborn.
I'm like, they're not going to take Trey Lance over Mac Jones.
This was me being stubborn.
I should have listened to the voices, and I didn't, and I got burned.
Guy Conner?
Yeah, Strigs.
First of all, obviously the Boston media calling for belichick's
head we're also asking when they should you know probably let go of them before the mac jones draft
so they can go to hell but uh you mentioned kyler because of this hollywood brown move do you think
that kind of gives the cardinals a year or so to uh kind of figure out that deal or is that something
you still think they might try and get done before the season starts yeah Yeah, I don't know what Kyler will think contract-wise,
but at the very least I got to think.
I wouldn't say it's an olive branch.
We're doing everything we can other than doing that to make you feel loved and supported.
But I would say the fact they went and got their best friend,
the fact they traded first-round pick,
and the fact that what he brings is something that they really miss without Christian Kirk without christian kirk in the offense like you put that speed marquise
brown's fast as shit like it's speed now you've got rondell moore you've got marquise brown then
you've got big deandre hopkins and aj green and zach ertz in the middle like i don't know if you
can have a better wide receivers and running backs combination in the league than what they have in
arizona so short of paying him 40 million, they're doing everything they can to support him and give him the weapons that he might want.
Hey, looking back on the Cardinals situation with the coaches, they obviously extended
Cliff and they extended Steve Kime. They didn't give him the bonuses after the playoff. That was
a big deal. This owner seems to be getting everything right. Was that real or was that
not real? I remember looking. Oh, that didn't come from Cliff. I didn't report that. The stuff about
like the playoff bonuses, you've heard that. So I can can't i can't speak on it and i'll tell you cliff never said
a word about it and you had him on the show and asked and he's like i don't even know what you
guys are alluding to yeah but he would say that right if it was real yeah true post extension
yeah especially with how handsome he is and how cool he got his money yeah hey he's so cool dude
he called us last night from like a winery i think yeah i look like it he was up with the suit on he looks so cool so confident so comfortable all those weapons now i mean good
for them they're going all in man i fucking love that over there it's the only way you can live
and like you watch the rams play and how they do it i think the chargers have done it the last
couple years and it's it's more than just a football thing it's a philosophy on life i think
this sounds very emotional but like like post-pandemic,
like what are we doing?
Like you're planning about three years ahead of time.
Like go all in year to year.
And let's see, the Eagles are all in for 2023.
And they're doing that because they're like, we're going to go for it.
We're going to be relevant.
And if you're planning for four years from now,
I'm not sure that's the move right now in the NFL
because you will not be coaching and you will not be the GM
if that's what your strategy is.
Hey, just real quick before AJ's question here,
and this is not about the draft at all,
Broncos are going to be sold before the season even starts.
Is there even talk about that out there in Vegas?
That's a pretty big fucking deal, isn't it?
It's a huge deal, and there's local people involved.
Josh Harris, who owns the Sixers and the Devils, I hear his name is mentioned.
And I'll tell you, the NFL is hands-on on this thing
because it's a really cool opportunity. These teams don't come open too often. And the hope
is that in the next couple of months, the Broncos will be sold to a new invigorating ownership group,
perhaps an ownership group with some people of color involved. We'll see if that's a possibility.
The NFL would love to see that. And I think everyone else would, too. So the Broncos,
that ownership deal is a huge
deal and that's going to be the most expensive franchise bought in the history of sports maybe
based on the NFL and where it's at and what a prime jewel that is in the NFL's castle of like
you know their crown just real quick though old cozy gets the Cardinals from his dad completely
different team yeah completely different team than when his dad was running it like if new
ownership endeavor not saying that they haven't made moves they got russell wilson obviously
they've done that but that new owner is going to be antsy to have success they're going to just
like tepper in carolina that motherfucker will cut anybody's yeah i want to win right now that
like you're saying the new uh wave basically of the league is not thinking four years in advance
i think as that happens with new ownership too like people are going to get excited to kind of
get going now.
Why would you buy a team and then be like, you know what?
If we're not that great, it's okay.
It's like, I think that is going to become something.
It's great for the league.
It is.
It's great for the league.
It's great.
And it empowers the coaches.
Like I can't like Sean McVay,
he cannot talk enough about the freedom he has to walk into a room and be
like, I want Alan Robinson. Like I know it costs a room and be like i want alan robinson like
i know it costs a lot and it seems imprudent like i want alan robinson matthew stafford wants alan
robinson like and they give him the keys and say okay we'll figure it out they've got guys in the
front office tony pestors and kevin demoff or like you tell us what you need we'll make it happen
how liberating yeah incredible amazing go ahead how's that process work when they're selling the team?
So the Broncos, do all the other owners have to vote on it?
Does it have to be majority?
Like how in the world does everything pass through?
I know they have a million checks and balances throughout the whole thing.
I think there are.
I don't know if it has to.
Honestly, I should go through the bylaws,
and I'm probably speaking out of school saying it.
But I'll just be honest.
I don't know exactly how many owners have to approve it.
But I do know there are several checks and measures along the way.
And it's usually not going to be some guy who shows up out of nowhere and is like, hey, here's $5 billion.
Like Tepper was a minority owner of the Steelers.
Haslam was a minority owner of the Steelers.
Kroenke was involved with sports, had already the Nuggets and already had some other – like when he got involved.
So you've got to have a track record, but you also have to be an attractive candidate for them to bring them into
the fold.
Cause once you get in,
I mean,
there's no greater business than being an NFL owner.
I'll tell you that.
Well,
especially right now as the more platforms get involved.
I mean,
the Thursday night football was announced.
It's how about Tony?
How about him out there at their just selling product?
I loved it.
Tony's my guy.
What'd he do?
He was out there and he's's announcing the Amazon Thursday night slate
of Chargers versus Chiefs.
So excited.
He's working for Amazon, and I guess he's their first official hire.
He did it on behalf of them where he's like,
I am going to be on this Amazon football package.
I'm talking besides, obviously, who they've got in the booth.
Al and Herbie.
It was cool.
Yeah, it was really neat.
And it's going to be Chiefs' first charges as their first game.
So, Amazon, I don't work for you, but I'm right here if you want.
Oh, sure.
Whoa, what's that mean for good morning football?
Whoa.
Lunch pail, guys.
Hard hat.
Work boots.
Oh, no.
What time do you start tonight, pal?
Oh, I got about two hours right now.
I think I'm going to crush a nap.
And then I've got to be in hair and makeup,
is what we call it in the industry, at 1.30 Pacific.
So 4.30 Pacific is when I really get started.
Yeah, make sure that whoever did your combine makeup
is not the one who's standing in front of you.
I know.
Come on, Shregs.
That was me, though.
That was on me because I was like, I need more makeup.
I don't know what the hell I was talking about,
and they taped it on.
Shregs, you don't, by the way.
You look amazing, pal.
Enjoy yourself.
We can't wait to watch you on NFL Network.
Going back to the Broncos being sold,
I think because it's the trust, right?
Ian Rappaport's like, well, since it's the trust,
they actually have to accept the most amount of money.
The NFL would like to not, but they have to actually accept the most amount of money.
So I think everybody has to get pre-approved,
and then they put in like a blind bid or something like that.
I'm not 100% sure.
No, I like – Ian would definitely know.
Ian's our guy, and we've got Ian and Tom and Judy
who do that kind of stuff
with the ownership stuff
and I would say this,
I hope you appreciated me
saying I was talking
out of my ass
before I started answering.
Yeah, I loved it
and I actually said
you're out of pocket
but hey,
that's what this show
is all about.
We're out of the way.
Can't wait to watch you
on NFL Network
in a couple hours.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Peter Schreger.
We love you.
Love you, J.J.
...that for 30 years has been telling everybody what the NFL is about to do.
So much so that he doesn't even do the day-to-day anymore
because he would just dominate that so much
that nobody else would be able to eat.
This guy is a scoop-stealing, wheeling-dealing NFL legend.
A man who predicted the top 10 picks last night
with his social media team.
He has screenshots to prove it.
That's because hashtag Jay New.
Author of a New York Times bestseller, I believe.
Ladies and gentlemen, Fox Insider.
An NFL network analyst draft cover.
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Just Fox.
Last time he was on Fox Sports Radio.
Ladies and gentlemen, Jay Glazer.
What's up, dude?
How am I looking?
You look amazing.
How's Vegas?
Fuck me.
That's what we figured there.
I don't know how everybody's doing Vegas for four or five days right now.
That seems to be aggressive.
Well, my dumb ass came out.
So Sean McVay and Raheem Morris, like, when are you going to draft?
I'm like
you know I got to do it next week they're like we got no picks we'll come out early so we came out
on Friday um with us and our friends uh uh we got these friends Avi and Neil their wives we came out
and uh yeah uh I've been here for probably about five weeks right now even though it's been eight
days I spent five weeks in Vegas one weekend. I understand.
Crazy glued this tooth in this morning
and the only thing I'm missing is the Tyson tattoo.
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on. Did you actually had to crazy glue
a tooth into your face? What happened?
What?
Yeah, I really did. What happened?
Like ten minutes ago. Huh? What happened?
Sometimes you just lose a tooth.
Oh, Vegas. This is awesome. Oh, Vegas. This is awesome.
Hey, Sam.
Hey, this is awesome.
I got a boner pick with you all.
What?
What do you mean?
With your fucking Jason Glazer.
What?
With the fucking lisp.
We've talked about this.
What?
I didn't have a lisp when all my teeth were in.
No.
And, by the way, okay, he was saying that I was out there with hookers and strippers,
and that's not true.
I'm Jewish.
I love my money.
I do not give it up.
Hold on.
Hey, that's not you, by the way.
That's Jason Glazer, distant brother.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Okay, let's – hey, happy to see you're okay.
There's still a few more days left.
Let's make it to the finish line.
What did he say?
Let's make it to the finish line, Ken.
Nobody can, literally,
as soon as you can
check the tape, as soon as I heard
everybody was going to be in Vegas for five, six days,
I literally said, I don't know how anybody's going to accomplish
that feat. I haven't been able to do three days
or more there ever in my life. Even
when it was scheduled to four, I walked
to the front desk,
got in a taxi, went to the airport,
bought a flight, flew home.
I was home by the time everybody I was with woke up.
I said, I can't do another day.
I can't do it.
It's too much.
Vegas is insane.
I'm happy to hear you're enjoying it.
What are you hearing about the first round and why it went the way it went?
We saw you tweet out a picture of your notes section of you predicting the top 10.
How did you know?
It felt like this year nobody knew.
Hashtag Jay knew,
obviously. But do you know what's going on? Did you know what was taking place there? Because
the trades came out of nowhere, and this offseason's been insane. But here's what happened.
I don't do a mock draft because I don't want to lie to the fans. So if a guy says to me, listen,
we're going here, and this is what a lot of teams will do, and this is what I love doing.
I love being that inside, inside guy where a team will say to me listen we're gonna let you know what we're
gonna do but you can't use it um but where do we have to move do we need to move up do we need to
move down are we okay where we want to stay and you know for me i don't want a lot of the fans
so if a team says to me listen this is what we're doing here at number four you can't say it glaze
then i'm not going to do it i'm not going to lie to the fans so i stopped that years ago i sat one year in the saints draft room um before they
moved to 10 minutes which by the way if people don't know what it's like in those rooms it is
not add conducive oh yeah i guess if you have a pick early on and then especially back
then when you didn't have just one day i mean you went uh one round in one day it was like three rounds in the first day it was a yeah yeah a lot of that man are you
the reason they changed it i wonder jay glazer hey bitch you know but you know as a result of
that i'm like man i know what they're gonna do i can't put it out in a mock draft and as a result
all my guys have appreciated over the years and they've said, hey, we kind of want your help here.
I don't tell them who somebody else
is going to take. I just tell them
if they have to stay where they are, or
hey, why don't you temper your
expectations here for your owner
that that guy's not going to be there.
So as a result,
they tell me what they're going to do going in.
And I usually do it for Fox
Sports Radio. I kind of set it up beforehand, and that's what I love doing.
I did it for a couple years for NFL Network also, but it's pretty cool.
I love doing this.
But for me to go 10 of 10, usually I'm like, I'm not that much.
And my guy, Scott Schmertz, hit me yesterday.
He said, like, number seven or eight.
He's like, have you looked at this?
I'm like, no, I'm on radio.
He's like, you got the first eight so far he's like how positive you on two i said i'm pretty good on two the next two
and three and four and man it was pretty cool though even for me i was just like um it's because
of the trust that people give me hashtag hey hashtag best thing hashtag jay no jay no jay no
that's what it is it It's hashtag JNU.
You know what I mean?
It's just.
It's pretty fucking cool.
I got to say.
I agree.
Go ahead, AJ.
AJ?
Jay, you don't have to kill anybody, but who do you think may have struggled in the draft
or didn't have a night that you thought they may have coming in?
Well, here's the thing.
Let me go back.
Can I first say who I think did great?
Yeah. Both New York teams. Man Can I first say who I think did great? Yeah!
Both New York teams.
Man, I love what the Jets did.
Love what the Jets did.
Love what the Eagles did.
I love...
So we need to kill Howie Roseman,
and all of a sudden, yesterday,
even his own players were like,
we love Howie.
I think there might have been a free Howie thing on there,
so I don't know.
You know, but he's an easy target.
Love what they did.
Love what the Jets did.
Love what the Giants do.
Giants, they've got to start changing their – some culture in there.
And I love what Joe Shane and Brian Dibble are doing there.
As far as who didn't do well there, man, Green Bay's still not coming away
with a wide receiver.
Even though where they were was hard to get a receiver.
I think New England's pick was a stretch all the way up there.
Whoa!
Really. You know, I's pick was a dredge all the way up there. Whoa. Really? You know,
I'll tell you a funny story. My guys also, when I'm on the clock, when they're on the clock a little bit before I'll say, who are you going to have? And somebody from the Saints room texted me
place. And I'm like, place? What the fuck is place? And I'm like, looking through all my notes,
who is place? Because you never know. There might be a guy that fall in love in the sixth round. And then I finally, I'm like, fuck, I don't want to bother this dude. I'm like looking through all my notes, who's place? Because you never know. There might be a guy that fell in love in the sixth round.
And then I finally, I'm like, fuck, I don't want to bother
this dude. I'm like, place, who's place? He's like,
my bad, autocorrect, Olave.
That's amazing.
When the Patriots
pick him up, somebody in there
sent me the same thing. And
like, strange.
10 chat or something like that.
I'm like, this must be another auto correct.
Well, another team said, I want to keep bothering this guy.
And they're like, what are you talking about?
Finally, one team, when I said, hey, strange, 10 to like Tennessee,
Chattanooga, strange.
And I'm like, for Patriots in one, they're like, no, no, no, that's, that's no, go back and ask your guy again. So I was like, there's no way we got this guy later on. And I was like, no, it really was. So listen, for me, you never know, because there may be a guy that sit there in the first round ends up being a huge steal later on. But we see too many of these guys that just don't make it. I just think it's a different league these days.
What a game the draft is, it sounds like.
Honestly, there's so much information trying to be accrued by everybody.
Who can learn?
Who can smoke and mirror somebody, too?
Who can sell somebody a little bit?
Go ahead, Dave.
I thought going in that there was going to be runs, like specific runs.
So I thought once those tackles went, boom, right,
there's going to be a quick – once the first one went,
there'd be a quick run there.
Once the first receiver went, bam, there'd be a run there.
And it did.
Also, and everybody started training up.
Once there was, you know, a couple corners later on, bam,
all these defensive backs were taken also.
So I thought there was going to be runs.
But it was still, you know still the biggest surprise for me.
You know, I was talking
about, by the way, there's Raheem Morris calling right now
probably to bitch me out that I just said we're in
Vegas together.
Hey, cheers, coach.
Cheers, cheers, cheers.
At least they're listening.
The,
you know,
I think the day before the draft, I was talking to Mike Tomlin,
and he's like, man, there's no way those two quarterbacks are going to be there for us.
I said, Mike, I think at least one of them will.
I thought the sweet spot there was Carolina.
I didn't know Carolina wanted to tackle.
I know the owner and head coach are eventually going to want a quarterback.
Are they going to be able to, know withstand some of the pressure to try and get one of those guys early because you can get them later
even though they're over two or three but this really is a draft for for quarterbacks in that
third and fourth round i said man if carolina doesn't go which i think they end up going tackle
because that dude from nc state is just a beast mike i think you got both these guys looking at
you and you know mike he's like's like, nope, no way.
Jake, no way.
No way.
No way somebody's going to sit there and just going to let him drop to us.
No way.
People are going to make a run at this.
Man, I haven't had one team say they want to – that are asking,
that are trying to trade up.
I'm just telling you.
I don't think you need to either.
And so I think he was shocked yesterday when both were sitting there at 20.
Well, thanks, Jay.
I think all Steelers fans are saying because there's a video of Tomlin
walking into the room where he's going to call Kenny Pickett,
and he's literally like skipping, like, all right, all right, all right.
And then he's like pushing somebody out of the way,
and then he's like, hey, Kenny, you want to stay in Oakland, basically,
which is where University of Pittsburgh is and where UPMC is.
He looked elated about it.
Tom, go ahead.
Jay, with that, you mentioned two quarterbacks there.
So if Pickett was gone, do you think they would go Willis?
And do you think them traveling around all these pro days,
was that smokescreen?
Did they know Kenny was their guy the entire time?
No, no, they flipped back and forth.
After the combine, they went over to Malik Willis,
and they spent more time.
But Kenny Pickett's been in their backyard.
But here's just the thing of the combine,
we're all ready to anoint people in certain draft picks right out of the gate.
Right?
And then all the interviews start happening.
Even the combine, you get 15 minutes with these dudes.
It's really those top 30 visits, top 50 visits,
that you'll start to get to know these guys a lot more.
And that's when, and here's the other thing.
Gang, teams do not set their draft boards until the week of.
So every time you hear or see a mock draft, they're not set.
And then what happens is then once they set their board,
then they bring people in there and they have their own mock drafts.
And they kind of argue over those.
And they see different scenarios.
And some of those mocks are like, oh, that guy could actually be there for us.
Then they start almost readjusting their grades again on that Tuesday,
on that Wednesday, Thursday,
teams are still shifting around what they want to do. So Thursday,
you've had 365 days to get ready for this thing.
And you're still shifting these. I put some out the other day.
There was a day, um, the Cowboys one year for weeks,
they were set on Sean Merriman with the 11th pick of the draft.
Set.
And then they came in that morning of the draft, and they're like,
ah, we started watching DeMarcus Ware again last night.
Last night.
Let's change over to DeMarcus Ware this morning.
And that really happens a lot more than you guys might know. It worked out, by the way, whichever way would have worked out there.
There was another story you told on your Instagram, and I actually shared it.
You said that there was a guy who didn't answer his phone who probably would have won top five.
Because he didn't answer his phone, the team did not trade up and get him,
and they actually just got lucky enough that he fell to them in the teens.
That's like a $30 million missed call in the old CBA.
We don't know how long ago this was.
You've been covering a draft for 30 years.
That's a real story.
And you even said in there the person probably doesn't even know to this day.
What a heartbreaker.
What a heartbreaker for that person.
It was a team that was sitting in the top five.
They were trying to trade out with somebody.
A team was trying to trade into the top five.
Because the player they wanted was not a top five player.
He was later on.
But that was their guy.
And that's why they were trying to trade out.
They just didn't like the draft capital they're getting back so at one
point there's like five minutes left in the clock or three minutes ago you know what tell them trade
is off and let's just call the kid and tell him we're going to select him all the way up high
well yeah the kid didn't answer his phone because he never thought he's going to go that high i guess
never answer his phone to this day has no idea so the team took it as a sign well
didn't answer his phone it's a sign let's call that trade partner back and let's see if they'll
up their ante they did up their ante they ended up making the trade that team went all the way up
top five the original team came all the way back into the teens and they still selected that player
in the teens but yeah that was a very expensive missed call did that player go on to have success yep are you friends with that person have you ever like gotten a little boozed up and almost
told him what i stay away from that because i know i won't be able to uh i won't be able to
help myself i did i was like sean you know you're supposed to go to dallas right there he's like
yeah thanks for telling me man appreciate it that's amazing Light switch would have been loved in Texas. Go ahead.
Yeah. Jay, you mentioned Carolina not taking a QB.
Have you heard anything about the possible QBs on the market?
And also, you know, San Fran,
do you know anybody in there and what their thoughts are with both Debo and
Jimmy G?
I mean, Jimmy G is just hard right now because of the shoulder Debo,
unless they want to, they don't want to trade them. So, and look guys,
they, there are contract situations that have gotten messy and sloppy over the years.
Look what happened with your guy Aaron last year.
Even though it wasn't contract, but man, it looked like he was gone,
then all of a sudden everything's good again.
So there's always ways to mend.
I remember when I was at CBS breaking into the NCAA tournament,
that Michael Strand, who just broke the sack record,
is absolutely done with the Giants, will never play for the Giants ever again.
And I absolutely believed him.
And if it was a time during Twitter, it may have happened that way.
And he didn't go to camp that year.
And they've since retired his jersey.
Right?
So there's ways to mend.
And I think in this situation, the 49ers do love them so much
and they wanted someone to blow them out of the water nobody blew them out of the water like they
wanted to get a two number ones and they didn't want to get that either really don't want to trade
them so somebody needed to really come and blow them out of the water and convince them with some
sort of trade and as far as in carolina you can look at jimmy but he's again the contract on the shoulder
and baker for all these teams that have had any talks with the browns and baker they want the
browns to pick up some of his money and they won't so that's kind of the hold up in that situation
jay i think the the guy who's going under the radar the most is probably the top overall pick
tron walker he goes to jacksonville i feel like we don't really talk about him a whole lot now.
Being the number one pick is a giant deal.
You think this is the right pick by Jacksonville?
I wouldn't have wanted to be in that top three or four.
That's tough because there were so many holes in guys.
I say holes because you've got to be kind of damn near perfect,
this nine-plus grade, if you're the first pick in the draft.
So here's a guy that wasn't featured at Georgia.
He did so many other things there.
What I was told that teams really started falling in love with
is they got the practice tape from Georgia.
Because if you just look at Georgia, you're going, man, this guy is just,
you know, what is he?
He's playing three technique.
He's over here.
He's over there.
He's just, you know, how come he doesn't win these one-on-ones?
It wasn't really focused for him.
So if you get a defense that's set up to focus on him,
the way Michigan used Hutchinson, then, man, you might have lightning in a bottle.
But they got a lot of practice tape, and they said in practice,
the stuff he didn't practice was just ludicrous.
Oh, that's such an interesting thing because you could be judged on that
because there's a lot of practice.
And you're playing Georgia.
Well, yeah, there's a lot of practice heroes, too.
Like, that is almost something that's even talked about.
Like, hey, this guy practiced here.
Thursday All-Americans in college.
Yeah, exactly.
Not that Walker wasn't a stud on game day or whatever,
but the practice film is fascinating because then you can see the real upside.
And it's like, how do we get this to show up on game day?
Which, by the way, Doug Peterson is proving coach in the past.
Oh, yeah.
Go ahead and get that thing done. A lot more just, look, you guys have seen, which, by the way, Doug Peterson is proving coach in the past. Go ahead and get that thing done.
A lot more just, look, you guys have seen, right,
straight-up one-on-one pass rush drills and things like that
where in a game, the scheme may not allow you to be in that situation.
I saw Robert Mathis hit a great tackle in Anthony Costanzo
in a one-on-one drill with a fake spin,
another dip-de-do, 360 thing and costanza blocked air on that
one-on-one and costanza i think threw his helmet or took his helmet and uh that clip got sent around
in a lot of text messages look what happened to costanza so there's one-on-ones by the way very
unfair for the fucking offensive lineman normally but there is some exposure that can happen in those things.
Robert Mathis used to.
Yeah, I can imagine. He fucking went hard every
day, though, that guy. Like, every fucking day
he was going. I was just sitting there. Here's how old I am.
But I used to sit there and watch
Jumbo Elliott against Lawrence Taylor
in practice on one-on-one pass
rush drills, and holy fuck
was it unbelievable. And Jumbo
used to fucking poke him in the eyes and grab his throat
leg with an lt around fucking jumbo you and they just used to get happy i mean dude it was it was
a tyson fury heavyweight fight every single time it's just one-on-one pass rush drills a lot of
time there was one i think it was before the super bowl in buffalo parcels specifically put like
those guys against jumbo to piss him off.
Because if you got Jumbo pissed off, watch out.
And him and LT got into it so bad, they're like,
Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's it, that's it, that's it.
Drill is cut off, drill is cut off.
They might have had to practice over it.
Nah, yeah, there had to be a fight, I assume.
The one-on-one drills were awesome.
Jumbo said something, LT said something. Jumbo said something back.
He should have said.
And then they're like, well, that's it.
And Jumbo, no fucks given.
And even LT is like, oh, shit, this guy just went there.
And, yeah, they had to, like, stop.
I think they might have had to practice on that because they just didn't want an all-out brawl.
But they were just trying to make sure that they got under Jumbo's skin because he had to go against Bruce Smith.
But that was Super Bowl week against the Bills.
Oh, geez.
We did not know that was Super Bowl week.
I think everybody is assuming that was training camp during your stories
because I was about to talk about –
I think they're going to practice Super Bowl week in a short week.
Jesus.
Here's the rankings for one-on-ones from a spectator standpoint
if you're at a practice of what you need to go.
The linebackers and running backs, worst one.
It is so boring.
It probably hurts.
Most collisions, you go right in the A-gap.
You're watching guys just annihilate each other and careers.
I agree, but goal line, you guys are getting beat up in that,
but it is not spectacular to watch at all.
I mean, there's big collisions, probably concussions,
but it is pretty standard operation on what's going to happen there.
Goal line drill is going to give you the same exact thing,
but with a lot more people.
Then you go, okay, to the defensive end tackle 101.
That is prime time viewing, especially if you've got two guys.
Like if you've got two guys that are really good, it's a good battle.
Wide receivers DBs, though, 101, that is must watch.
I mean, it is.
As soon as that whistle blows, me and Vinatieri are on a beeline over to the
all right, who's going to make our team and who isn't going to make our team
right now?
It was electrifying to watch.
Unfair on the DBs too, man.
No pass rush.
Bullshit-ass routes from the receivers.
Ten seconds.
Yeah, yeah.
Everything's against you.
But that's when you find out, you know, who the dogs are.
The real top DBs, they want to go against the top receivers and vice versa.
So it's definitely fun.
Definitely a fun part of training camp.
Super Bowl week, seeing two of your guys just start brawling.
They're running one-on-ones, by the way, Super Bowl week.
That's awesome.
That is the change in football.
That would not be happening nowadays.
That's a wild time.
Jay, we appreciate your time.
We know you've got a lot going on.
I want to talk about the book, though, man.
You've had so much success.
We've gotten a chance to chat with you before the book was released, as the book was released, and now after it.
How's the whole process been?
Have you been enjoying the Unbreakable Being an Author process?
And it feels like you're really interacting with a lot of people with it all.
Yeah, you know, it's been great because I'm trying to get mental health to be more proactive than reactive usually we go get a therapist we talk someone the sky is falling
right we don't do that physically physically look you're going to sit there and you're going to
punch a million balls a day right so you're always you're making sure you're always improving we're
always getting better mental health we're not doing this and i just went down and talked to
the whole usfl eric shanks our boss at fox He said, look, listen, I want to get ahead of this for this whole group of players.
So I want you to come down and see if we can get a little proactive.
And I went down there and I was like, listen, we don't have enough therapists for all of us.
So we've got to be each other's therapists.
So not just when the sky is falling, not just when that gray between our ears is getting dark at all times.
So it can help us out.
And I have my son sammy with me
and you know you had four or five hundred players in that room fox bought all of them books you can
see they don't want to be there to start at the start of it but halfway through i turned them
and every one of them got up stand up afterwards and and has to talk to me like one-on-one after
just saying mr glazer man i have this anxiety got this depression, but I never knew who I could talk to.
And then all of a sudden their teammates said, hey, man, you can talk to me.
They're like, for real?
Like, yeah, you can talk to me.
That's what they're here for.
And every one of us, we have some shit, and that's okay.
Like I'm fucked up, but I'm good with my fucked upness.
And the more we could push this path, like I got to be honest with you,
I thought it would be rainbows and unicorns when I came out with the book.
But I
stopped all my treatment to write the book.
Yeah, we heard that.
Because I wanted to be as raw as I could
because I wanted to help as many people as I could.
And like I said, I'm fucked up.
Like, I got that darkness, which makes me
where I am. It motivates me to get there.
But I've never really gotten...
I never got back to where I was. It motivates me to get there. But I've never really gotten I never got I never got back to where I was
supposed to be. So as I've kind of taken this on, people lift me
up by telling them how much it's helping giving them the words
now to talk to people and confide in their brothers and
sisters or husbands and wives is lift me I still got a little
room to go. Because I took off those eight months.
Me taking off eight months of doing any sort of treatment is not good
because I do these IVs.
I do, man, I'll try the next greatest thing.
I do meditation.
I talk to therapists.
I talk to my friends.
But, yeah, I kind of still have my ups and downs,
and that's why I wanted to write this because I'm going to be in this
in real time with you all because we've got to do this shit together man we got to walk this walk together so i appreciate
how much you guys have pushed it we've saved a lot of fucking lives together so far wow and
save them but i want to continue to empower lives we've got to use our gray the same way we're proud
of our physical scars we got to start being proud of our mental scars and start telling people hey
i overcame this depression i got this anxiety attack hey, I overcame this depression. I had this anxiety attack today.
Man, I overcame this.
This is how I did it.
And start sharing it with each other.
Hey, team fucked it great, pal.
We've been following along the entire journey.
Keep it going.
The book's unbreakable.
We appreciate you, Jay.
Good luck the rest of the weekend surviving and talking about the NFL draft.
It's crazy glitter right here.
All right.
There you go.
Hey, get it together. All right. Ladies right here. There you go. Get it together.
Ladies and gentlemen, Jake Lazor.
Is that Hollywood? No, no, no.
You're like, well, that's
where Sam Lamar is. No, not Hollywood.
Come on, D-Buck. Lamar Jackson?
D-Buck, can you take the phone off just in case a number pops up?
Thank you.
It almost happened last night., but, I mean.
It almost happened last night.
That's why I asked.
On his phone?
Yeah.
You can see it with the camera angle.
Oh.
Good looks, Foxy.
Is that Hollywood over there?
That happened with the Ravens last night.
Their entire draft board was on TV.
Got revealed.
And then somebody tweeted it.
They try to hold that in very high regard, I guess.
Wasn't it Jerry Jones, too?
He was, like, going to show them a picture.
Hey, look, I can fucking show you.
Hey, listen.
Jerry's hilarious.
Just three days ago, this fucking guy.
That's when we had him, right?
Hey, zoom in.
Zoom in on that one right there.
This is where he was now.
Just three days ago.
Look, here's the asterisk.
This is him.
I actually drove that.
He was here.
Oh, fuck.
I shouldn't fucking.
Well, except for the quarter. None of these guys are available. Oh, fuck. I shouldn't fucking. Well, except for the quarter.
None of these guys are available.
Oh, shit.
Listen, that's funny that we just did that.
Jerry spun that thing real quick.
Real quick.
Mike McCarthy laughing about it, just like, oh, my God, what am I doing?
Our practice field is surrounded by office buildings that anybody could buy.
Here's the video of Jerry Jones giving away their entire draft card, basically.
Their top 50, almost.
And somehow nobody has tweeted this actually zoomed in or in focus.
Here's Jerry Jones at the press conference
after they make the draft pick of the Tulsa offensive lineman named...
Tyler Smith.
Tyler Smith.
Of course.
Let me put it like this.
We have both of them.
Okay.
This was printed three days ago below him.
Both of those players are below him.
Can you see that?
Steve.
Don't show them, Matt.
I'm not going to show them.
Jesus Christ.
And McCarthy.
Well, it's happy you said it.
I feel like these are always the Saturday life skills.
I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. No, we really did have them rated said it. I feel like these are always the Saturday life. Are you serious? I'm dead serious.
I'm dead serious.
No, we really did have them ready to blow it.
No, we really did.
Both of them.
Big Mike looks fit.
I love Big Mike.
He's the man.
Well, hey, man, let me just say this.
The other part is I'm looking.
I don't see it. I'm trying to see who's on here. I'm trying. The good news is most of those players are gone.
I'm trying to see who's on here.
I'm trying to see who's on here.
There wouldn't be, but if you take out the quarterbacks,
it won't be anybody on here.
No, he didn't do anything.
Jerry knew.
Jerry knew.
He had to make sure after that.
Hey, D, but Dallas Cowboys seem like a place I would want to play at. It just, honestly, at this point, it feels like with the ownership,
with the way they allegedly you're taking care of in the community,
you're going to be on national TV every single fucking week.
But for whatever reason, you're not going to lose.
It seems like a great place to be.
Why don't they have success?
Not going to lose or win?
No, I'm sorry, not going to win.
Why don't they have success, you think?
That's a tough question. What is it? I honestly wonder what the fuck it is about. A lot win why don't they have success you think that's a tough question
what is it i honestly wonder what the fuck it is a lot of teams don't have success honestly but
it's been a while they're always it's just they're so hyped up so much like you said though
a lot of pros come with it though especially after your career you go on tv probably come
back 10 years later and do autograph signings and make 50 grand so it's definitely worth it
they stink is that part of it like every year it's definitely worth it. They stink, though.
Is that part of it?
Like every year it's like, hey, this Cowboy,
this might be the team that goes on to win the Super Bowl.
And then it's, okay, so if we don't win the Super Bowl, we kind of failed here?
Oh, everything's expectation in comparison to.
Yeah.
You know, it's a bad year in comparison to what we all thought they were going to be because Jerry Jones has hyped his team up so damn good.
They got all-stars.
They got superstars everywhere across the lineup.
I like playing for the Lakers.
I just started winning time, too.
You watch that?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Jerry West is not happy.
Supreme Court.
I didn't expect him to be based off his character.
I mean, he's pretty.
He's a volatile character.
It's like they got him accurate.
I'm only about four episodes in, so.
Oh, hold on.
Me, too, I think.
Yeah.
Just wait until they get the boss.
I have not got the boss.
When's that?
Episode five?
I think that might be.
Yeah, is it?
So it's hard to watch now because I thought I was watching a documentary.
And HBO has come out and they have stood by it.
They said, we understand people are upset.
But this is after years and years of research.
We stand by.
Even though it's not supposed to be a documentary,
it is not portrayed as a documentary,
we stand by our writers and creators and how they are depicting it.
So HBO is coming out and saying,
nah, like, our research says that this is how you were actually as a human.
And sorry about it to Jerry.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is like,
did you see him give the entire breakdown of how shallow all the characters were?
Nah, not the whole breakdown.
But I do have, so you saw one give the entire breakdown of how shallow all the characters were? No, not the whole breakdown. But I do have.
So you saw one of the early episodes when the kid came up and asked Kareem for autographs.
Hey, fuck off, kid.
Yeah, yeah.
I did see a couple people that I know say, hey, I met Kareem as a kid.
I got the same treatment.
So that part of it is for sure accurate.
Depending upon the day, you know how sore his back is.
Obviously a superstar in there.
You are unbelievable at basketball, D-Butt.
Yeah.
I enjoy it, man.
Well, not five, though.
No.
You lose.
Yeah.
In this office, you lose.
I'm not really, you know, I'm a gamer.
Oh, you have to have a little bit of a...
Yeah, I'm a gamer.
It's got to be, like, really on the line.
We're playing competitive juices flowing.
You know, 100, money, all those different games.
Pig, horse, I lose in that type of shit.
Oh, because you're a gamer.
Five-on-five guy.
That's a game, though.
No, five-on-five, two-on-two, one-on-one.
Yeah.
You play knockout with your kids.
AJ plays knockout with his kids every day.
That's a game.
Never wins.
Knockout, you shoot two people in a row,
and then the people behind him shoot.
Oh, the layup?
Yeah.
I never played that.
I've seen it.
Never played.
It's a great game.
Knockout's awesome.
I was actually a three-time knockout champion at my summer basketball camp,
not to brag.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hey, guys.
D-Butt, please.
Thank you.
Jesus Christ.
I hated knockout, personally.
Hated the game.
Why?
I just – people tried harder than me, they won.
All right.
Good for you.
Are you playing the knockballs?
Are you self-handicapping?
I'm not self-handicapping.
It's going to be hard for me to try in this game, I think.
Like, this is going to be a difficult thing for me to want to break a sweat playing right now.
You know, but people break a sweat playing knockout.
I'm like, I'm not going to do that.
Like, if we're going to break a sweat.
Just train your shots then.
You don't have to sprint if you just make all your shots.
Well, that's the style of knockout player I am.
If I go 10 for 10, I'm going to win.
If not, I'm going to lose because the person behind me is going to try harder.
They're going to hit my ball.
I'm going to get pissed, too, by the way.
God damn, I'm going to go fucking two quick all the way over to get my ball.
I hope you're happy.
Yeah, hitting the ball, that's a completely different game.
If that's activated inside the knockout game,
then you really have to put on your running shoes.
You did not win with the ball hitting.
No, because that's kind of like the streetball version of knockout
versus the professional version of knockout, which is no ball hitting.
Yeah, don't you play like at the Yacht Club, Connor?
Is that where you won?
Exactly.
No, no, no.
This is basketball camp in the town, AJ.
At the Yacht Club, there was ball hitting, okay?
Of course, you scumbag.
Yeah, come on.
I mean, what are we talking about?
We're just having fun.
Oh, blood and guts over there.
Yeah.
Do you stand by saying the quarterbacks are the second best basketball players
on the entire team?
I mean, if A-Rod said bump the receivers up, I can follow that.
I can listen to him.
But most quarterbacks, I've played with some good quarterbacks.
Most of them have a jumper.
Josh McCown probably is one of those guys.
He's a baller.
Tyrod Taylor, really good.
Even Orlowski can go a little bit.
Tannehill is a good player.
Yeah, a little big issue. Tannehill is a good player. Yeah. A little big issue.
Tannehill is probably a player.
That's wide receiver, right?
Yeah, he's that.
Yeah, Tannehill.
Aaron said put the wide receiver up there.
He's wide receiver and quarterback.
Josh McCown, that was the surprise of the internet, I think,
when he was fucking in.
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
He was going on, guys.
There's clips of Devontae Adams in high school,
and he's an absolute baller.
Yeah.
Brady has a good J.
He put that video up, post up his son.
Oh, yeah, on his kid. He's got a little
Dirk in him.
Quarterbacks, Glennon I bet is
fucking nasty. 6'8",
probably just smooth from 15 off
the glass. Yeah, but bro, his eyes on
the court, he has got
that. He's playing point forward.
I saw Nick Foles drain a
deep jumper. Is he
in the NFL still?
Where is Nick Foles drain a deep jumper. Is he in the NFL still? Where is Nick Foles?
He's still in Chicago.
He's there.
In this quarterback world, he has not even been chatted about.
He's got a statue.
He does.
He's got a statue.
For now.
Him and Doug Peterson both got statues, and they're both gone.
Howie Roseman, though, went from penthouse to outhouse.
This guy fucking stinks.
Why do we have an accountant as our general manager is what the Johns are saying in Philly.
Now, if you look at his Carson Wentz trade, he got Devontae Smith and A.J. Brown for those picks of getting rid of Carson Wentz.
Unreal.
That's impressive.
That's a hell of a move.
Getting the contract off the books is the biggest thing, wasn't it?
Yeah, picked up $57 million here from A.J. Brown, I guess, but got off $100 million with Carson Wentz.
Good for everybody, man.
Smart. Well,
I don't know about everybody, but...
Yeah, good for everybody. I hope everybody makes a billion dollars.
Oh, yeah, the people. I was going to say
it wasn't good for the Colts at all.
We need Terry McLaurin. That's who we need.
Here? Yeah, here.
Matt Ryan. That's exactly who Matt Ryan is.
Bring Terry home. We got the money to pay Ryan. That's exactly who Matt Ryan is. Bring Terry home.
We got the money to pay him.
He's from Indy.
Great locker room guy.
If we're not going to resign T.Y., you need that type of leadership in that room with some young guys.
Like I said, Matt Ryan, that's the type of weapon he needs.
Even if you're going to draft in this draft, I'd receive a position.
I think Terry Mack needs to come home.
We need to get him home.
Is he on the move?
Is he just in that room?
He wants his money.
He's a part of that group. You know, one year left on his deal.
The commanders just drafted a –
John Dodson.
Yeah, Dodson in the first round.
So, we need to get Terry here.
Well, why doesn't Terry, like, have – who's his agent?
Is it Dondi?
Is Torrey Dondi his agent?
Is Dondi the representative of all these wide receivers that are potentially on the move?
Dondi's quite a Dondi.
Yes.
Dondi's a choppy.
Dondi had two wide receivers trade in the first round last night.
Debo's like, hey, Dory, Dondi's your fucking magic run out, pal.
What's going on over here?
Terry McLaurin is with Exclusive Sports Group.
It's an indie-based agency.
So I don't think that's Dondi.
Who?
Buddy Baker.
Oh, I know that.
That's a big name, isn't it?
Oh, yeah.
I didn't know they were indie-based. Yeah, indie. All right, shout out Buddy. Go get it. Thank you, Buddy. Oh, I know that. That's a big name, isn't it? Oh, yeah. I didn't know they were indie-based.
Yeah, indie.
All right, shout out Buddy.
Go get it.
Thank you, Buddy.
Bring him home, Buddy.
Jim knows Buddy.
Oh, yeah, gotcha.
Jim Irsay knows Buddy.
Oh, Jim.
Chris.
They have dinner together every week.
Buddy and Jim?
I don't see why not.
Jimmy from the Colts?
I don't think Jimmy from the Colts got time for Buddy Baker.
Yeah.
No offense, Buddy Baker.
I think Jim Irsay's got a lot of living to do.'s got his band he's got his museum he's got his golf right
did you see that photo of him last night he looks so cool right now crushing it did you see
what was it no where was he last night uh see i don't know when the photo was okay yeah hey is
that photo from recent have we done any research on that uh man sure. He has no idea. This photo of him? Shades.
Holy shit. He had like blue light
glasses on that were blue and round.
Look at this.
That's what I'm saying.
He looks fucking very good if that's him right now.
It's probably not right now.
How do you know?
He looks great. Who the hell are you to say?
I'm just saying with how it's set up.
This is from yesterday.
There we go.
What is that?
What is that?
So it could have been.
Go back.
His hair's a little longer here.
That's what I'm saying.
Different suit.
Different suit.
Different suit.
Still blue, though, because he's a co-owner.
Go back to yesterday.
Zoom in.
Oh, yeah.
What do you tweet?
Oh, we were talking about making a move.
I like that they're trolling.
Yeah.
Hey, by the way, I think he's joining us on the show on Monday.
Oh. I mean, that just came out of nowhere. Probably should havelling. I like that. Hey, by the way, I think he's joining us on the show on Monday. Oh.
I mean, that just came out of nowhere.
Probably should have made bigger news for that.
Yeah, I got a text late night, last night from, boom.
Yeah, Jim Mercer's coming on the show on Monday.
Let's go.
Nice.
Look at Ballard's arms and vascularity.
Yeah.
Jim, or Chris Ballard's, you know.
Oh, yeah.
Shredded.
He is.
Him and Belichick are probably the two most ripped.
Well, Belichick's doing squats.
We saw him.
Yep.
And benching in his garage.
Ballard's doing it, I think, all day, every day. Yeah.
Jim's coming on the show on Monday.
They watch the show, I guess, in the...
In the war room?
Yeah.
I don't know if Jim was in the war room the entire night
or if Jim was just watching it wherever he was
or he had somebody carrying a phone around, which would be awesome.
That war room, too.
I mean, when Baylor showed the room, they needed juice.
They were not.
I got some pics tonight.
Let's see what they do.
There you go.
This is where he hits, I feel like.
Yeah.
This is where, if you think about Darius Leonard and Julian Blackman.
This is where Chris fucking Jonathan Taylor.
He finds great value in these picks.
And he's very confident in it almost.
He is too patient in my eyes.
He needs to fucking, you know.
Yeah, go get Julio.
Jarvis.
Jarvis.
Odell's out there.
He's going to get healthy.
Did you see his closet?
Hey, did you see that fucking guy's closet?
Yeah.
That was dope.
Yeah, that was a dope ass closet.
How do you even go...
Who do you talk to?
Do you talk to like a mall?
You go to a mall and say, excuse me, I need this store in my house?
How's his house in Cleveland?
Yes.
Did you see that?
Yeah, I saw it, yeah.
The lighting, the structure, the setup, the shoes.
The chairs with the autumn, it was fire.
He has a store in his house.
Yeah.
It was unbelievable.
I don't know who you go to.
AJ, I...
Laurel Hawk.
Yeah, I was about to say, that's like what
your wife does, I guess. I haven't seen
Odell, but she's definitely done some
closets for athletes that were awesome.
My wife's like, okay, this is cool. Now,
where is your wife or girlfriend going to put her stuff?
I'm like, oh, don't worry about that.
Whoa, whoa. Odell's not doing that.
Odell's a romantic.
Good joke, guys. Settle down.
Is this a footlocker?
That's what we said.
Yes.
That's what we're talking about.
That's his fucking closet in his house.
$3.3 million, by the way.
Wait, he did this in Cleveland?
Yes.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Look at that.
Look at that pinky ping pong table there.
That was a part of the surprise.
Yeah, I do see a ping pong table there in the back room, and I would assume that it
is a higher ceiling than in this particular room.
Is this the basement?
What's that, pal? Skateboards? Yeah, I that it is a higher ceiling than in this particular room. Is this the basement? What's that, pal?
Skateboards?
Yeah, I think it's a skateboard.
Who's Tony Hawk's?
Yeah, Birdhouse.
Bob Berkley?
No, Tony Hawk's boards are from Birdhouse.
So the reason how Odell got these boards is
Tony Hawk was actually doing his, hey, do a
kickflip tour in Ohio and Odell was gaming it
so like he
because Tony used to
pull up to random corners
and just say to
whatever skater it was
hey do a kickflip
and if they did a kickflip
he would literally
pull a board out of the back
Odell met him
at every corner
that he was at
in Cleveland
he put on a different hat
he just fucking
kicked the board
25 boards thrown
yeah straight from Tony
you know those chairs
are comfy
no
I don't know
maybe
depending on how tall you are.
Yeah.
You know, that's the thing.
What do you think they're made out of?
Gator?
Fucking leather?
Is that fucking...
Is that croc?
Is that boa?
Is that caiman croc?
That's gator tails.
That's gator.
Oh, they got a little caiman in there.
Oh.
I need caiman croc chairs so I can look at my goddamn shoes.
What's that one piece of art?
Look at the different lighting on each fucking screen.
Is he selling this or what?
Yes, 3.3 million or something like that.
Look at the different lighting on each shelf of the goddamn shoe rack.
Does it go by color as well?
I mean, that's easy.
You can do that yourself, though.
There's not LEDs at Walgreens.
I understand you can do that, but who's actually doing it?
That's a lot of wiring.
Are you doing that?
I have it on my TV, yeah.
Whoa.
Those LEDs are huge now.
Shout to your TV.
80 inches?
You're living well?
You got an 80-inch TV?
Yep.
What is that?
That's a fucking 4,000-square-foot area.
You think that's no problem?
Just ping, toom, toom, toom.
You stick it up there.
It's adhesive.
You do it.
My daughter has it in her room. So maybe I could do this. Jeez, toom, toom, toom. You stick it up there. It's adhesive. You do it. My daughter has it in her room.
So maybe I could do this.
Jeez, you've got to have a big room.
We could do it to your desk.
It'd look pretty sweet.
Or it looks more dope.
Your desk doesn't have it.
I was going to say, doesn't it?
Doesn't your desk have it down there?
We do have it.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
We do have these in the bottom of the stage.
I forgot all about that.
That was a big piece that was added.
Oh, there they go.
Look at that. Oh, look at that. Turn the lights on piece that was added. Oh, there they go. Look at that.
Oh, look at that.
Nice little blue hue.
We have no cameras to show it.
Oh, there it is.
Yeah, there you go.
You can change that color, though.
Can't you change that color?
Oh, yeah.
Dang.
Oh, yeah.
Looks sweet.
That had to be there.
Hey, Odell, come to Indy.
Check it out.
Feels like.
Oh, here we go.
Welcome to First Round Fallout Feel Good Friday.
We were a night show there for a second.
That was pretty cool.
You think that's good for resale in Cleveland?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh.
I'd shoot Amari Cooper.
If LeBron comes to us.
Yeah, you got to trade that house with Amari.
You got to trade houses.
Yeah.
Easy.
Sean Watson. The Guardians will. Easy. Sean Watson.
Guardians will buy it.
Sean Watson probably got a lot of shoes.
$230 million.
He's getting more than a $3.3 million house.
That's all.
Ohio money goes a long way.
That was $3.3 million, that house.
Yeah.
What did LeBron have?
He had like a $30 million house.
Didn't he in Cleveland or something like that?
He built like a whole cul-de-sac.
He built his house.
Ohio.
Yeah.
Indiana, Ohio.
People are like, Pat, why are you in indiana still it's like
i got like two episodes of cribs houses at this place i couldn't do that anywhere else
ever like it is the money goes a long way that house in la it's like 50 million dollars yeah
it's absurd and i mean you just mentioned deshaun's contract there he's gonna be able to get like an
aj hawk sized house yes which is something something. Why would he do that in Cleveland
though? You don't want to do that for your forever home.
So that's what I'm saying about Odell here. Odell
was planning on staying in Cleveland.
He even bought a place in Cleveland.
He moved all his shoes there.
Takes a lot of time.
He was only in his second year of his deal, right?
He was planning on staying
and then his dad was like, we can't do it. This fucking guy
doesn't even look at you.
Then he went a Super Bowl.
It's Baker.
Yeah, Baker.
Hey, that's your guy.
Darius has gone on numerous networks now.
He's been the guy for Baker.
Top ten quarterback.
What were you on?
You were on Fox?
Yeah, top ten.
He was on Fox.
He started a franchise.
He's a starter.
You were on there with Ocho, and I think Joy.
Joy.
Ocho and Joy.
And the thing was like, Baker Mayfield's on the move.
And you were like, whoever gets him is getting a Super Bowl immediately.
And then you're on with Jim Rome.
I think same thing.
Hey, what are your thoughts?
What is your thought on Baker Mayfield?
You're like, thank you for asking.
I'm actually the authority on Baker Mayfield.
I've watched film on Baker Mayfield so much.
This guy, top six, top seven, you put him in the right position.
And then on this show you did, too.
Media spins it.
I knew it was spun when Orlowski hit me.
It was like, hey, welcome to the club.
But, no, I'm not in whatever club that is.
Baker.
Baker.
I think Dan said he was as accurate as the quarterback, Drew Brees, that he seen.
But Baker's a starting quarterback.
Top 20, 25.
So I think especially only one going in the draft last year.
I mean, last night in the first round, I think he'll get the job starting opening week.
Dan Orlovsky.
You know, he went to college with him.
Friend of ours.
Friend of ours, yeah.
Friend of most of us.
What the fuck?
What's that all about?
You shaved your mustache?
Now you're a fucking asshole?
Dan Orlowski's coming out and saying a lot of stuff about the Patriots.
Last year, they had a top five offense.
This year, he doesn't think they're going to make the playoffs.
I mean, this guy flips and flops like a fish.
Well, that's, I mean.
It's a new season.
As information is unfolding, remember, he said Mac Jones is in the scariest situation
in all of the NFL because he doesn't have a consistent voice in his ear.
Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
Well, he's worried about the Patriots.
Yeah, and then Rob Nikovich comes on and says
who's better to learn about NFL defenses
than Bill Belichick? I think that makes a lot more
sense than what Dan Orlovsky's
been in. But hey, this guy also said
Carson Wentz is a top five quarterback.
All right.
Dan Orlovsky
steps in the batter's box
on every single topic.
Has to.
He steps in
and he's not just
watching the ball go by.
He's taking fucking hacks
in everything.
This is your guy.
You went to school with him.
Did he have any reaction
on the draft last night?
Any teams?
Yeah, he said the Giants.
I said the Lions
are going to be a problem.
Yeah, for the Packers.
Hell yeah.
I believe he said that. Hell yeah., for the Packers. Hell yeah. Oh. I believe he said that.
Hell yeah.
There you go, Abby.
Hell yeah.
Foxy in the back.
The Giants, I think he said,
had the greatest draft
he's ever seen.
Something like that.
In the history of the league.
Oh, yeah, since they drafted
Lawrence Taylor.
Lawrence Taylor, yep.
That's what it was.
That's right.
What's your problem?
Why are you laughing like that?
I mean, he's on TV every day, man.
I guess that's what you got to do.
Hey, our friend Dan has made fucking quite a name for himself.
He has?
Talks about everything.
He's the authority of quarterback.
He is.
He's the quarterback.
He was right about Stafford.
Bro, he stands in the paint, though.
You know?
Got to.
Like, he stands.
He is always right underneath the hoop.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I respect that.
He says, oh, this is the greatest of all time.
So, in doing that, he's just stepping
right under the hoop with his feet still moving.
So there's no charge coming, but
everybody just comes on his head, basically.
Boom, boom, boom. And then guess what Dan Orlovsky
does? He fucking gets right
back in. This guy.
AJ.
Get your head out of the freaking gutter,
buddy. Okay, guys, you don't think any of
the fans of this program were thinking the same thing?
He's tossing it up.
Not until you, oh, geez.
Yeah.
All right.
This coming off the Austin Theory situation, like, I just don't want it to be a habit.
Theory.
It's theory, buddy.
I beat the Austin off him, all right?
So, anyways, he is going, every day, though, he's going right back under the hoop,
shuffling his feet and getting yammed on.
Yeah.
Okay, he's getting yammed on.
Directly all over him.
Has he always been like this?
Is this what Orlovsky's always been like?
Just come on.
He's a confident guy.
He watches the film.
And like I said, you're on TV every day.
You got to go out there.
You got to put your neck out there, man.
Do you respect the film study that he does?
I feel like you do some of the best film study on the internet.
And Dan started out as a very bland film guy on the internet.
Here this guy is.
His first couple.
No, that's not what he sounded like at all.
I don't know what this is all about, honestly.
I don't know what this is all about with Orlovsky.
He got some real Dan beef over there.
It sounded like he did it.
It was informative.
Yeah.
His first couple, though, when he was first getting into it, he was great. Oh, yeah. He was great immediately. Punch it. Sleep. Yeah. He was informative. Yeah. His first couple, though, when he was first getting into it, he was great.
Oh, yeah.
He was great immediately.
But there was just –
A bunch of sleep.
Yeah, it was a snoozer, though, the entire time.
Then he kind of became – and he is very good at what he does,
but now he is Dan Orlovsky.
So, like, everything Dan Orlovsky says is going to get attacked.
I really love when him and Ryan Clark are up there together
and they're talking about the offensive perspective, the defensive perspective but yeah that's how he got in actually you know throwing
the videos up on twitter and then uh you know execs and people paid attention to it but once
you get you know on tv and you got to do it every day you got to have these takes especially on
these different networks you know you got to come with some shit every day so i don't know we're
live every single day yeah it's different we just around we do well we give our takes though oh yeah true we give our takes yeah cool strange hall of famer
okay that's one of them boom fear is he gonna wear this in the nfl yeah we got to you're
you're goddamn right he's gonna wear that hey what got you to the dance you know what i mean
not being able to see a portion of the field that everybody else can see you know science
able to see a portion of the field that everybody else can see you know science absolute stud doctor yeah he's a doctor of fucking kicking ass what and being nasty this guy's a doctor doctor of
fucking football yeah university of tennessee of chattanooga's handing out doctorates what
what is he a doctor of phd in pancake blocking really yeah i don't understand he's not an actual
doctor yes he is why do we fucking toss a doctor in front of this guy because his last name's Really? Yeah. I don't understand. He's not an actual doctor.
Yes, he is.
Why do we fucking toss a doctor in front of this guy?
Because his last name's Strange.
It's a Marvel comic thing.
Go on.
You don't know Doctor Strange?
You don't know Doctor Strange?
Of course. What does Doctor Strange do?
Fucking eat defensive linemen for breakfast.
So Doctor Strange is in Marvel. Was that in the movie that I watched where they all battled against each other. So, Dr. Strange is in Marvel.
Was that in the movie that I watched where they all battled against each other?
Yeah, he was the guy that created all those
Oh, he had the lasso?
Bingo. That was the travel thing?
Yeah, and he was like glitching, looking at all the time
scenarios. That's what Dr. Strange does on
fucking running passports. He might have one of the time stones.
Yeah, he does.
He's a pretty important piece of that.
Just like Cole Strange.
So, Dr. Cole Strange.
Dr. Strange is our guy.
Teleporting around.
Exactly.
Into the secondary, fucking busting open holes.
He did a lot of recruiting, didn't he?
That guy that was fucking throwing the lasso time portal thing around?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was getting everyone together just like he's going to get the whole offensive line together.
He was just popping into people's fucking days.
They're just walking around and boom,
the guy with the lasso travel portal thing is here.
And he, hey, you need to come try to kill yourself.
Yep.
That's Dr. Strange in the secondary blocking safeties and linebackers.
Thank you.
That's what this show brings.
That's right.
That type of stuff you can't hear anywhere else.
Bingo.
These will be counted before Wednesday.
Hell yeah.
Winter Wednesday, all the winners will be announced from the Draft Spectacular.
D-Bud, how many are in here?
1,578.
That's a good guess.
Is there a reason you went with 78, not 77?
Did you see one late?
I just like even numbers.
Yeah?
Yeah.
God damn, that looks good.
Yeah.
There's been a couple times today. Should we eat them all and count them?
Yeah, someone going to eat them?
Well, that's what I'm wondering.
Like, if I eat one right now, we have to write that down as a plus one?
Starts as one.
Because people were guessing last night with this.
Correct.
Yeah, that amount.
We should divvy them up and just all eat them and count how many we all eat.
Who poured them in?
Anybody got, like, a ballpark or just no clue?
Nobody has a clue.
I poured them in.
So you got a ballpark.
You know if it's, like, over 1,000.
What's the range?
Yeah, don't be.
Yeah, not giving anything away.
Between what?
Between 800 and 1,500?
You and AJ both.
Listen to AJ right now.
AJ's trying to win this thing.
Yeah.
He will tweet out.
Okay, you too.
Bill, put that tweet out for me, Bill.
All right, Bill.
Bill's in your basement.
All right, get him out.
This thing can't close, though.
He's behind you.
Because of how much is...
It's a big bin.
Huge.
It weighs a lot, too.
Hey, you might want to tape that top on there, because you know that's going to fall and spill.
It's not.
This thing is starting.
Okay.
You don't know shit.
It'll make it to Wednesday.
It will.
What are we...
What's your fucking deal?
How many were in the water bottle last year
I believe like 178
That's pretty heavy
I think you fucking crashed someone's skull
That's not 1500
If it was only 178 in a bottle
You don't know that though
178 in a bottle
What are we even talking about
Oh in the Gatorade bottle
Is that what it was
It was around there
Because I remember it wasn't filled up all the way
It was three quarters filled And it was D It was around there because I remember it wasn't filled up all the way.
Yeah, it was three quarters filled and it was – Dissolved from the water.
There was water in there.
What size Gatorade bottle?
32 ounce?
I'm not telling.
Okay.
Oh, you're right, D-Buck.
Yeah, there's no way.
What's that?
The number is way too high.
It's got to be under.
1,157.
794. Wrong. I think that's close. That's not to be under. 1,157. 794.
Wrong.
I think that's close.
That's not right.
You guys are completely wrong.
I think I just hit it.
Pat, did you know that Poopy's got his hand bitten off by a shark a couple months back?
Or a couple years ago?
Who?
Poopy.
Poopy's.
Poopy's.
Poopy's.
Poopy's.
Poopy's.
Jackass.
Oh, yeah.
Listen, you will know Poopy's.
Poopy's.
Poopy's might be the dumbest human ever.
He's entertaining them.
They found another dumb white to go ahead out there.
It's all a bit.
It's a bit.
No way.
No way.
Either way, he's a star.
Jackass will be able to do that forever if he feels like just find some.
Poopies.
Poopies is a star.
No, there's no more poopies hanging around.
There's only one poopies on the earth.
Have you seen Jackass?
Were you ever into the Jackass?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you were.
They're not still doing it.
There's another one.
They have a next generation of them, and one of them's name is poopies and he is a treat poopies is a treat it's cool it's a long run yes well they're 20 years after the first jackass
yeah or the last jackass i forget first one i think first movie came out in 2002 they still
they're going a lot of dick impressive a's poopies. That's poopies.
That's poopies right there.
Poopies.
Weapons.
What you're thinking of poopies right now, time's a bite time.
He got his hand bit off by a shark.
I don't know if that's true.
I don't think that was it.
During Shark Week, yeah, I saw the whole thing.
This happened before the Jackass movie, like two years ago.
This is how poopies was probably introduced to Tremaine to come to Jackass.
He was sworn by sharks they did they like they it was it was serious they had to rush him in and yeah his hand was hanging and everything isn't that kind there's poopies getting bit by a
snake for like the fourth time it's like the fourth time they did this because he couldn't
get the shot they said couldn't get the shot line them back up they're just fucking with poopies
and poopies just oh man i thought we get it you them back up. They were just fucking with poopies. And the poopies were just, oh, man, I thought we'd get it.
They did the whole thing.
Shark Week, though, if poopies came in and saved Shark Week, that'd be awesome.
Because for 10 years, all Shark Week was a different group of whites.
We'd get in those shark-infested waters every 30 minutes,
and we'd be watching to see if they'd get fucking bit.
It was always during training camp.
I had nothing else to do.
Everybody's in meetings.
I'm watching this.
Nobody ever got bit.
Sometimes, I didn't even see a fucking shark.
We really thought there'd be a great white here,
even though they all have trackers on them.
Apparently they're not even in the area.
We'll be back tomorrow.
It's like,
oh,
you're wasting our time.
We know you guys aren't going to get bit.
Poopies went in there and just got fucking bit.
You're saying?
Yeah.
They like chummed the water a bunch and then they try to,
they took it.
He was being towed from a jet ski over a ramp with a wakeboard on.
And as soon as he went in, boom, bit his hand.
And then they're trying to get him out, and there's sharks everywhere.
And he couldn't get the wakeboard off.
It's pretty serious.
Man, I did not know Shark Week had a fastball.
What the fuck?
I did not know Shark Week had a fastball.
Yeah.
I assumed everyone knew.
Oh, yeah.
Shark Week fucking stinks.
I haven't seen the poopy segment yet.
I'll look into it.
But Shark Week is the most overrated.
I don't watch it.
I've gotten to the point where I'm angry at it.
Oh, yeah.
I haven't watched Shark Week in years.
That's a photo of it.
First five, six Shark Weeks, so awesome.
And then you learn, oh, I'm being conned.
This ain't Shark Week.
Yeah.
This ain't no, this is swimming water.
Right.
Unfortunately.
That's what this is
It does look like he bit his like
Thumb off the shark
Oh that's no big deal
Poopy gives everything
A good 9 out of 10
What do you got?
I got a shark cage before
Where Bahamas?
Bahama
Bimini
Yeah
I think I've been
Yeah
Bull sharks
Did you have the thing over your head?
Like the spaceship thing?
No
I just got in the
it's like a cage.
You had like obviously where people video.
How'd you breathe? I just go under there.
Oh, so you had the snorkel or no?
You just went free diving. Do we have the snorkel?
It was like a deep one.
No, no.
We literally came like walk
into this little cage, jumped in
you go under and they throw the chum in there, and they come in.
You know, they get in the shit.
You touch one?
Hell no.
Fuck no.
Yeah, they probably told you directly, do not touch one of these shirts.
They were throwing the shit.
I had to, hey, throwing it too.
They were, you know, trying to be funny, throwing it right at the cage.
You got this space where, you know, they record.
And, like, you're kind of floating a little bit, so, you know, you get a little.
It was scary. You'd never do it again know, you get a little. She was scary.
You never do it again?
I don't do it again.
It was fun.
Okay.
So you would dive back in there, chum the water up a little bit more.
Let's go ahead and dance.
It was fun.
Just, you know, just throw it a little out there, you know.
Just get them close.
A little further.
Oh, you want to see it, not feel it.
Yeah, I don't want the chum to, you know, accidentally get in the fucking cage.
I went down to the Bahamas.
I had the, they have one where you go out in the ocean, I think, too, in the Bahamas.
Yeah.
They have a bunch of shark shit.
I had the one where you put on, like, that space head, and it gives you air, and you
can kind of swim around, basically.
I got a guy who'll take you down there with some hammerheads.
Oh.
He does it every day.
Does he feed them beforehand so they're happy, so they don't bite me?
No clue.
Do they give them drugs and kind of calm them down?
What do they do?
No, man.
They're comfortable out there, though.
What's that, AJ?
They got them all.
They find all the sharks.
They give them Xanax.
That's awesome.
You got to wear a Shane link.
Yep.
They come open up like an old folks home or a psychiatric hospital.
Hey, take your meds, guys.
And they open up and they throw them out.
That's sick.
That's awesome.
I would assume if they were.
They did not do that for poopies, unfortunately.
No.
Hey, those sharks.
One of those sharks missed the daily pill.
At least one.
It seems like it.
It happens.
All right, let's get out of here.
What a week.
What a week.
What a week.
Good week.
A lot of M&Ms.
I will tell you, I was trying to count this here while you guys were talking.
Just this one row here.
And you multiply.
I was going to think about doing it, but these peanut M&Ms are so fucked up shaped.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's no real rhyme or reasoning.
No.
It doesn't suck evenly.
What's their problem?
Well.
All right.
They're coming in.
That's 24 grit.
A little smoother.
They're feathering the edge now.
Yeah, a little smoother.
A little work.
Thanks, everybody, for their hard work.
Thank you to Rapid Port. Thanks to Schrags. Thanks their hard work. Thank you to Rapidport.
Thanks to Schrags.
Thanks to Glazer.
Stop by Grazie.
Thanks, everybody.
Thanks to D-Buck coming to the studio.
Appreciate you, man.
AJ, great week.
Boys, great week.
Incredible week.
Enjoy the weekend, huh?
We got Smackdown tonight.
Hell yeah.
Enjoy it.
Hammerdown's in 15 minutes.
Hell yeah.
YouTube.com forward slash hammer.
Done.
You all are the best. Winners will be
announced on Wednesday for the PMS Draft Spectacular.
Bruce got to go to work.
I'm the one
that did all the work. I don't know how much you were
in the original things that I was dumping out.
I don't even know what the estimation is, so I couldn't even tell you.
I have a rough estimate.
1,058. Final? Yep.
Final? 888.
7.58 you said or something? 7.94. Alright. Final? Yep. Final? 888. 758 you said or something?
794.
All right.
777.
969.
Actually pick it now.
888.
Wait, maybe Mitch.
Two.
Shut up.
It's 639.
Six.
I was going to say 624.
Z?
6,100.
Okay.
Crisis record rules will be 2,100. Okay. Price is right rules.
We'll be in effect here.
Yeah, smart.
Okay.
Closest without going over.
Gumpy?
907.
All right.
Give me $1.
Wow.
1,000.
1,000.
1,078.
No, one.
I'm just taking one.
Don't box me.
Oh, lightest one.
Okay.
I'm going one because it is Price is Right rules.
True. So if everyone's over, you win.
You said 600?
Why'd you do that?
I wanted to do the one thing.
Box, dude.
Yeah, I'm 624. I'm screwed now.
Well, I got it right on the button.
So I did the math.
Can I have two?
No.
Sure, sure. What's your second one you want?
Two.
You're a terrible guy.
I don't have one anymore.
I'm not a part of it because that would be rude if I was part of it.
True.
And you might win.
In this room, if somebody's closest without going over, what are they winning?
All the prizes.
Eat them all.
You get to eat them all.
Yeah.
Yes.
All right.
We'll ship them to you guys.
You were pretty locked in.
You've been counting this thing.
I don't know.
I'm so comfortable.
Exactly. Do the volume.
I'm sure you can find online. You can figure this out.
Times width, times height.
Pythagorean?
Yeah, the volume. That's what you're looking for.
It doesn't matter though because like you said, all of the fucking M&Ms are shaped differently.
Bro, look at this one.
Whoa!
Look at this one. Look how tiny this shaped differently. Bro, look at this one. This one.
Look at this one. Look how tiny this one is.
And then look at this big son of a bitch.
Yeah, it might have two peanuts in there.
You know what I mean?
It might be closer.
You know?
That's only two.
And then look at this one. This is one.
This is not two. This is one.
Yeah, that has two peanuts in it though. Doesn't matter. Nope. Doesn't matter. And then this one. This is one. This is not two. This is one. Yeah, that has two peanuts in it, though.
That may be two.
Doesn't matter.
Nope, doesn't matter.
And then this one is the same.
You know?
So, like, I don't know how.
It's tough.
969, I think, is the one.
All right, good luck to everybody.
I already won.
Grand champion prize of 15 grand for one that watched for the last night.
Thank you, everybody.
Have a great weekend.
You are the best.
Bye.
See you Monday.
See you, AJ.
Have a good weekend, AJ. See you, everybody. Have a great weekend. You are the best. Bye. See you Monday. See you, AJ. Have a good weekend, AJ.
See you, AJ.
Thanks.
You too. សូវាប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់� Thank you. សូវាប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់� Thank you. សូវាប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់� Thank you.