The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 654 - NFL Draft Recap, Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane, Indianapolis Colts Owner Jim Irsay, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 2, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about everything that happened over the weekend and all of the fallout from the NFL Draft, and how we have no idea what these guys will amount to in the NFL, why the media controls how a lot of people feel about the draft going into it and after it, the news that Tyrann Mathieu is expected to sign with the New Orleans Saints, and everything else happening around the NFL and the sports world as a whole. Joining the progrum to chat about their draft, how this year's draft was different than years past, and how he feels about the team going into the next season is friend of the show and GM of the Buffalo Bills, Brandon Beane (28:49-48:52). Later, the Owner of the Indianapolis Colts, Jim Irsay, joins Pat and AJ Hawk to chat about what it's like being an owner in the NFL, where he see's the league going in the future, what he's doing with Kick the Stigma and mental health advocacy, what the one per club owner's meetings are like, and Mr. Irsay issues a special challenge to Pat for this upcoming NFL season (1:26:26-2:07:42). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is Monday, May 2nd, 2022, and this sports show shall begin now. Can't thank you enough for joining us. Hope you had an incredible weekend, the weekend that had the NFL draft as well as some NBA playoff games that were electrifying. The NHL playoffs start tonight. We're getting into a time where there's some veterans getting signed around the NFL. It is a glorious time to be alive and we appreciate you joining us right here at YouTube.com

forward slash The Pat McAfee Show. Now, the room is packed with the toxic table at Ty Schmidt and at Boston Connor. Connor, your mullet looks fantastic. Thanks, Pat. You also have what they say, the 35-year-old glow. So happy birthday. Happy birthday!

35 years is a long time. Yeah, long time. Long time. When I was a child, I thought 35, you know, probably not going to make it there. Honestly, for a large part of my life, I assumed I was not going to make it past 30, and that is not because i'm a

negative person it's because i was a super positive person so much so is hey i would do anything at any time whatever you got to do we need to drink 30 40 beers tonight we gotta do that tomorrow we have to do the same thing let's do it that led me into a little bit of uh you know burning it from both ends type life sure so there was a lot of times where i'm like i'm gonna i'm gonna enjoy tonight as if it is my last night on earth and i really did have that mentality i attack life is such and i just assumed that it wasn't gonna last long so then i make it to 30 i'm like god damn look at me go yeah all right i'm going look at you then i turn 34 i beat jesus jesus 33 that's a bit that's a monumental now that i'm 35 i want to let everybody know that i have no idea why and how i get to live the luckiest life and the dumbest life of all time.

But I'm very, very thankful. I'm very, very grateful. I was hoping to not talk about it, but let's get this out of the way now so we don't have to do it for the next three hours. But I'm very thankful. I'm very grateful. I have no idea what the next 365 have in store, but I am going to try to enjoy every single part of it i will hope um you know that everybody gets a chance to enjoy their life through this next year and i'm very thankful and grateful for everybody so thank you thank you thank you so much with that

being said fuck you connor no no you didn't deserve that i mean 30 years on saturday wasn't too shabby either hey shout out to out to my wife, by the way. My wife, Sam, set up a surprise birthday party on Saturday night. I believe invited everybody. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe invited everybody. And I don't know who all got invited that didn't come either. So I don't know because it was a surprise party until a few hours before the surprise party was supposed to start. Because we moved into a new house, as everybody knows, because the last house had black mold in it. So I had to get out of that house uh we moved into a new house as everybody knows because the last house had black mold in it so i had to get out of that house quickly move into a

new house house has a couple different floors don't really see you know many of the other floors other than the main floor sure so i think my wife thought that maybe she could just decorate an entire floor i would never go down there i woke up i was like i heard sam downstairs and heard the dogs downstairs i'm like oh i wonder what's going on downstairs go around turn a corner i'm like what's up she's don't come in here so i obviously went right in you know what's happening what's going on and there was an entire party set up already and uh i was like oh shit what's going is there oh this is for me oh this is a surprise i'm so sorry and she was

she was actually okay because there was it would have been interesting to get you know to figure out how to surprise me but then when everybody came and how much fun we had

I mean it was an absolute blast great time shout out to my wife Sam for setting that up thank you so much the surprise didn't happen it just happened with me and her you know

right it was just me and her the surprise and the dogs and the cats were there and I'm sure they were surprised too because there was a lot more shit for them to bat around and pop in the middle of the night but the uh the night was a blast and thank you all so much for coming there's brother still burping up oh yeah he's hurt he was just chugging beers like a white guy

like a white guy he's i'll have this little tequila here a little red bull yeah i'm just chilling i'm just chilling oh we got this bottoms-up kegerator thing over here. How's that work? How's that work? Oh, it's cool. You've got to try it at least once. Boom, put that thing. Ice-cold Bud Light.

So smooth. Thank you, Connor, by the way, and Bruce, for bringing that over. Ice-cold Bud Light there. And Foxy, I think, jumped on the train there, too. The entire beer was cold the entire night. Oh, my God. And if you just have that kegerator sitting there, thank you to the previous owner of the house that left that in there.

I mean, this is a little taste of high society is what I'm experiencing now. I got fountains that go into my pool. You do? I found that out yesterday, too. I mean, that was a big deal. I moved into this house, and I had no idea. Just kind of moved in there. I got a whole new taste of high society that I'm living in.

Kegerator, the fountain into the pool. I mean, it was a good time. It was a great time. We're going to have to try that again. Absolutely. That Kegerator is a problem, though, because you're right. It's not like your average keg. You see it even if you're not drinking beer.

It's like, well, you know, they're ice cold, they're very smooth, and they fill up in a cool way. So I'm going to have to have a couple. And then you drink one, and it's like, Jesus Christ, that was one of the best beers I've ever had. So you've got to have another. Well, and then you maybe didn't do it perfectly the first time but you saw somebody else pour it perfectly and there's a little bit of a timing game for you to push it yep and the

pull it so you're like all right so i'm prepared next time even if the beer wasn't that good well it's probably my fault didn't pour that well because you literally put this you put the cup i don't know it penetrates the cup so the keg instead of having a tap you know what i mean it's from the bottom there and you put a cup a specially designed cup yeah it breaks through I don't know. It penetrates the cup. So the keg, instead of having a tap, you know what I mean? It's from the bottom there. And you put a cup, a specially designed cup. It breaks through and then it kind of penetrates there. And the beer fills from the bottom of the cup up.

And it's like fucking a movie. It's literally like a movie as it fills up. But then you either have to stop it or lift it out in the right time. So there's a little bit of a timing game you have to play with it. But it is glorious. It is. It was a brilliant idea whoever made it yeah yeah i was looking how expensive they were like after i got back from your house i was like fucking i'm about to buy one of these things this thing's awesome are they very expensive uh not as expensive as i thought but they are for like bars like i saw like one of them it's set up like where uh bars are filling

up pitchers and they have five of these things and they're putting the pitchers on there and then just just ripping them i mean it was a great idea i mean darius even got captivated by it that's why he came in then he's just chugging beers all of a sudden that's what happens then he's he had a 6 30 a.m flight there was no way no way someone below that posted the photo of the lady who was working at McDonald's outside. I mean, it was perfect. There were a lot of great responses to that. It was a lot of fun.

I appreciate you all so much. Thank you. Thank you for being nice. Thank you for being a part of my life, and thank you for allowing this to be my life, everybody that watches. It's a stupid one. We're going to continue to try to go down this road of dumb, though. I'll tell you that. There's a lot happening in sports, and we are going to continue to talk about it.

Hell, yeah. I will say getting to watch other people talk about sports over the weekend, you know, that was interesting. Yeah, it's always a pleasure. It was awesome. It was interesting, yeah, getting a chance to hear. Because we're kind of wrapped up in our own little world here, our own little blinders, so I don't really get a chance to hear

or see what's going on in many other places other than just clips and stuff. But, man, watching that draft all weekend, there was people that worked for Fox that were on NFL Network, people that worked for CBS that were on, like, it was almost like a collection of people on every single. I was enjoying it. I was enjoying watching it. Interesting.

I was learning a lot about a lot of people. The draft, such a spectacular thing. I'm pumped that we have Brandon Bean on today. Oh, yeah. Yeah, general manager of the buffalo bills they sign obviously elam which is a great pickup there's this behind the scenes story about uh elam showed up at his meeting with the bills at the combine with his notebook it was basically like hey if you guys want to see like uh the notes that i take this is what you can look at

and they were so impressed it it seemed like, by his notebook of how he can get better, what he likes to do. I guess he is a very due diligence style player, which obviously the Buffalo Bills love. That culture they've built where they're just one coin flip, Kyle Brandt fucking killed it. Yeah, he got it. Kyle Brandt fucking killed it.

Good for you, man. Not easy to get up there and do your thing. You did it for the Bills Mafia. I'm sure they're all going to be very thankful. That wing looked delicious. Good prop game in there. He absolutely crushed it. But I just think, like, the whole thought that the team that

they have built up there is so good. They had so much patience early. People forget about the amount of patience that they had. Not only with Josh Allen, but with McDermott and Bean as a whole. There was a turnover process where Tyrod Taylor was a starting quarterback. He got them to the playoffs for the first time in a long time, and he just wasn't what Bean and McDermott wanted to build their team around.

So they moved on from making the playoffs with a brand new thing. They would go on. This is with the Patriots being in the middle or the end of their 20-year dynasty run. The patience that all of Buffalo showed in the process there. And then building the culture and building the team. And then Josh Allen from years one to two. Then two to three. And then what the fuck did he become?

Just a stud, almost a prototype of what everybody else is looking for. And if they don't, you know, with the overtime rules, get a chance to answer there, who knows how that thing goes last year i'm pumped to chat with him there is no team that is sitting more pretty literally they're the favorites in all the sports books aren't they i believe they're the favorites to win a super bowl next year in all the sports book only got better i think you lose cole beasley right lose cole beasley but they got that other guy that had uh who's uh isaiah mckenzie yeah he had four touchdowns or whatever that guy was touchdown scoring machine they get stefan digs back again josh allen's still there they draft

a wide receiver in like the fifth round i mean the fucking bills are a wagon right now yeah and i believe josh allen's the favorite to win the mvp so it really is like the bills are the ones that everyone's kind of looking at oh no expectation so high oh so high oh my god the afc east all of a sudden it's just loaded no. Expectations so high. Oh, no. So high. Oh, my God. The AFC East all of a sudden is just loaded. Because the Pats are the Pats. And then the Dolphins made a bunch of good ones. Listen to me kind of promo like I'm proving something, by the way.

Everybody's like, yeah, no fucking shit, dude. Quarterback's the favorite to be the MVP. And the team's the favorite to win the Super Bowl, pal. You're not telling us anything we don't know. They are, though. No Pro Bowlers on the defensive side of the ball last year. Remember, that's a big-time ordeal. And they hold that on their shoulder. That is a spike chip that they keep

right here. I'm excited to chat with Brandon Bean. And Jim Irsay will join us. 205. 205 Eastern Standard Time. Let's go. He, obviously the owner of the Colts. There's a lot to chat about. Matt Ryan, not only Yannick Ngakwe and Stephon Gilmore,

they've loaded up on vets and money moving on from Carson. Why are you doing that? And also, I believe he has the greatest museum of stuff that the entire world has ever laid eyes. He's supplying museums with stuff, this guy. And there's even more taking place i guess there's a massive auction happening for kirk cobain which is raising some money i think he's i mean i'm i'm very pumped to chat with him in about an hour and 45 minutes or so aj hawk

will join us in the next hour um town digs big takeaway from the draft quarterback not so much more punters and specialists there than quarterbacks for a bit until it got later into the round. What's the big storyline you think out of the draft, Tom Diggs? Big storylines. Georgia set a record with 15 players. Wow. Hey, how about Ian Rappaport? I mean, he cut a promo on Matt Corral that none of us expected.

I don't know what that's all about. Matt Corral didn't deserve that. But he called Georgia-Alabama light, I believe, whenever he was breaking down. He said, you know, normally Alabama is the school that has everybody ready and prepared to be an NFLer. That's why everybody drafts them because it's like, hey, going through Saban's thing, they already know what preparation looks like. They know what film study looks like. They know what everything looks like to be a pro. It's been there before them. It'll be there there after them they're primed and ready to go and i think he said this year more like an alabama light like uh georgia has really become a school

that everybody's comfortable with and i'm sure the georgia people are not happy about that as the reigning national champions everything like that but it's real in the in the national spotlight, Alabama has been the feeder system for national championships in the NFL. Clemson had a little bit of a dance there. Alabama remained. Now Georgia's in it. Alabama remains. It's like Alabama's the constant.

People have come into their world and gone out of their world. But the Georgia Bulldogs, how many people drafted? Fifteen. Fifteen of their dudes drafted. Twenty-two starters plus two kickers on it, but one of their punters did get drafted. Shout out to him, by the way. Jake, howdy, baby. For the punters, Jordan Stout.

He was the kid out of Penn State. My sources told me last week he was the most NFL ready. So he was the most NFL ready because the ball that he hits is a high one. His drop is one that seems to be pretty proficient. Feels like he's a machine and he is yoked. So it's like he hits big balls. Everybody was telling me he was the most NFL ready right now. Matt Ariza, who I don't love the nickname.

I don't love the nickname. I'm going to say I don't love the nickname. I don't know who created it. But hey, listen, maybe he will be. I'm not Hermson Shore. Maybe he does become. Shane Leckler is my punt god. Okay.

Just want to let everybody know. Shane Leckler is the god that I prayed to when I watched films. Absolutely. To get better. It was Shane Leckler that I would. That's my punt god. Okay. When punt god, my punt god, blessed me with beers for trips home too.

It was like, the god has blessed me. Thank you, punt god. Things must be going well here from the punt god. blessed me with beers for trips home too. It was like, God has blessed me. Thank you, punk god. Things must be going well here from the punk god. So the punk god thing is quite a smack in the face, I think, to a lot of very talented dudes that will never say that they feel like they got smacked in the face because they have too much pride and they're cool dudes that drink like beers and stuff,

so they won't do it. But Shane Leckler's my punk god. Shane Leckler knows Ariza, has chatted with ariza knows everything about ariza has the same thoughts i think that i have that every nfl person had whenever we watch man arise upon and that said his drop is not an nfl drop okay so this is something that i think you know real inside punty stuff and i love how athletic his dude is i love his competitive stamina i love uh how strong he is his drop though and his punch swing is more line drive i think people have talked about his hang time not being as great he's able to murder ball 80 yards though

so the motherfuckers got leg strength i think he's athletic enough he'll be able to figure out his drop especially in buffalo and to make it more consistent and hit a much higher ball i think he'll be able to do all of those things i think he's athletic enough to do all those things but i think that's why in the punting world in the draft in the scouting world he was a little bit lower than everybody else because if he can't fix that or maybe he's just an anomaly and he'll be able to do this when nobody else has been able to do it but if he can't fix that minor little detail in his drop that he'll be able to work through he's just an anomaly and he'll be able to do this when nobody else has been able to do it. But if he can't fix that minor little detail in his drop that he'll be able to work through, he's never held before either

because he kicked. I had the same problem. I lied to Bill Polian. I told him I could hold. I could not. I kicked field goals for every year that I was at West Virginia. I didn't start punting until later, so I would have never done it. I was able to learn mostly just because it's an athletic thing.

There are some people that have not been able to learn. Darius Butler is a guy. Maybe the best athlete I've ever been around. He tried numerous times, couldn't figure it out. Matt Ariza will be able to figure it out because he's already good with his hands and everything like that. So I think there's just more, can't hold, hits a little ball, has to change his drop. Also, is that drop, you know, how quickly can he change that drop? Like, that whole thing happens. But the guy's a gamer. He's a stud. He's competitive.

He's active. So, like, I think that makes me believe he'll be able to figure it out and move on. Shout out to Jake Martin going down to Tampa Bay. He hits a big ball. First time I seen him, I said, holy shit, that dude has an NFL leg. Now, his drop turned a little bit inside as well. He'll have to fix that. That's the difference with the NFL and college balls.

College ball is a little bit more forgiving, and you don't have to hit it as high because everybody can run downfield immediately upon the ball being snapped. As opposed to in the NFL, nobody's allowed to leave the line of scrimmage until the ball is kicked. So you have to have a lot more hang time in the NFL to have your guys catch up while they run down the field. I think he'll be able to figure it out.

I think all the guys that were drafted. Cade York goes early, the kicker. He goes to Cleveland. He hits a massive ball, very high. Was leaving the camera on the highlights that I was watching. That means his leg strength and explosion is pretty fucking good. Also, hits the ball end over end, which is a massive deal, especially in the windy conditions of the AFC North. If you look at Tucker, Tucker's so good because his ball is pure,

and it's able to cut through the wind. If you hit this thing perfectly end over end, it's going to cut through the wind better. There are some kickers that hit a little bit of an X ball. You see how this is out here, and this is over here. A little bit oblongy. So it's coming out a little bit ugly. If that hits wind. Okay. It is over. So if you see kickers that hit a very clean.

Chris Boswell. Hits a very clean end over end ball. It's like a perfect rotation. Then there's some guys that just get a little bit off center. Have very strong legs. Are normally able to fight it. But if you run into a fuck you like wind like the AFC North has, that is going to eat that ball and fucking make you miss.

So the thing that I like most about Cade, he seems to hit a very powerful ball and he hits it end over end. Should be good in Cleveland. But once again, everything is a question mark on if any of these dudes will be able to translate into the fucking NFL at all positions. How much do you think Bengals taking and being successful with Evan McPherson makes the Browns take this guy in the fourth or whatever?

Yeah, I would assume McPherson. I mean, if there's another McPherson out there, that'd be awesome. Yeah. That'd be amazing if people think that's a new norm. Because Cade York in his head is like, yeah, that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to do exactly what Money Mac did, dude. That's what i'm gonna do you know i'm gonna do exactly what money mac did dude that's what everybody like hey i'm gonna come in here i'm

gonna fucking i'm gonna make every i'm having a perfect season first year have to have that thought have to literally like you're not going out there to fail and then like all of a sudden you run into a 30 mile an hour day it's like the fact that money mac justin tucker and boswell are so good in that afc north make no sense at all. And I think we should talk about it more often. But we won't. Because at the end of the day, it is, you know. A lot of things have to happen for a kicker to ever kick a ball.

Now, when the kicker's kicking the ball, though, there's a lot of shit that's going on there. I think a lot of shit gets mailed in in the analysis on TV of these guys getting drafted. You know what I mean? And the TV people had punt God being the first marketed punter in the history of the NFL or something like that. A little bit of smack in my mouth. That's not Matt Ariza's fault, though.

I'm not blaming Matt Ariza at all. But sometimes I think what we learned through the entire draft is a lot of the media folks don't know shit. You know, nothing. And then it's just clean slate afterwards. Like, oh, well, yeah, we didn't get them all right, but we'll just move on. We do need to give credit to one person, though. Mel Kuyper is. Yeah, he had a good draft.

He did. Hey, and he said, this is my hardest one, not the easiest one. I didn't know a lot of superstars. But Mel Kuyper, like, did pretty well. I think we should a lot of superstars, but Mel Kuyper did pretty well. I think we should maybe think about thinking about listening to Mel Kuyper next year as opposed to every other narrative that was cooked

in the last month leading up to draft day. Month and a half before draft weekend, that's where all the truth's being told. Remember? Quarterbacks stink. This is this. I think they even said it's going to be i think they even said it's going to be runs a lot of guys are going to go off the board of positions and then move to the next position they thought that was like a month and a half before the draft

that shit was being speculated and then it got dumped on oh yeah i mean it got dumped on over the next five weeks or whatever and it changed completely so we got to remember that for next year as well for a lot of people it's entirely dependent on how you view the draft, going into it and afterwards. If you're getting all your information from one spot, you're basing all of your expectations and then the fallout from that on what this one person said. So if they didn't know shit to begin with, it's like,

oh, maybe I do need to kind of reevaluate. Maybe the team scouts and personnel have a better idea what they want to do than just this guy who's paid to talk about the draft one time a year expectations are always what sets the bar for reactions okay so but teams can't be transparent at all because then they can get got by everybody else so it's literally a system that's just going to go on and go on and go on forever i think because it can't be fixed more transparency is the only way it'd be fixed, but no team's going to do that because they can potentially lose all their fucking leverage in any trade.

So we just have to ride the wave, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, to that point, another storyline from the draft was these quarterbacks falling, but did they actually really fall or were they not where they were supposed to go? Yeah, because a month and a half before the draft, there's maybe one first-round quarterback this year year i think we're not going to see that and then free agency happens and then we all assume oh these are the teams that are looking

at a veteran free agent they must be looking for a new quarterback oh there's no more quarterbacks available other than baker mayfield what's going on jimmy g too what's going on with Jimmy G? So then I think the natural movement is, oh, if they were interested in a veteran quarterback, they must be looking at somebody else at the quarterback position, especially somebody who's much cheaper. These are the quarterbacks that are available for them to potentially get. Well, here at their draft spot, this is the only people that might be left. Even though a week and a half ago we said none of these quarterbacks will be worth a first round.

That is what happened, and we all bought it. Hey, we were not champions of this whole thing. We were not champions. But to our credit, we didn't know if the first thing being said was bullshit or not. So then when the second thing came and definitely was bullshit, it's hard to depict which one's bullshit. And I think just

because we all everybody else that we consider champions of the draft we're buying into that as well i think we just naturally follow suit we need to be better next year hey you hear me next year i'm gonna be 35 during that one yeah that's gonna be the one yeah that's gonna be the one that that draft season is gonna be the one 35th 36th trip around the sun right being 35, that's going to be the one we're going to do. I think one of the most interesting things with the quarterbacks that got drafted too, they're all in an interesting situation. It's Pickett and Trubisky. It's Ritter and Mariota.

It's Sam Howe and Chuck Wentz. It's Corral and Sam Darnold. I think that's pretty much – did I get them all there? Bailey Zappi and Matt Jones. Oh, Willis. Oh, Willis and Tannehill. See what goes on there. But they all – like they're not going up against starters

who are established besides Tannehill. Like they all, if they do perform well, could have a chance to start in their rookie year at some point. Let's go. Yeah, not Bailey Zappi, but yeah. Maybe though. Yeah, a lot of third, fourth, fifth-round quarterbacks have had a lot of success in the NFL. And seventh-rounders.

And, obviously, the most famous of all time. Pick one, I'm not. That's right. That's sixth-round. That's right. Kuyper missed that one. Kuyper also said the Patriots had the worst drafts in the NFL. But, hey.

Oh, Dan Orlovsky said you guys. No, was it you guys? No, he gave the Packers a what-the-fudge-plus on their picks. Yikes. A what-the-fudge-plus? Yeah. You guys, no, was it you guys? No, he gave the Packers a what the fudge plus on their picks. Yikes. A what the fudge plus? Yeah. You guys are fucked. Oh, my.

Which is a big, like, I don't even know how to react today. I don't know if I should be thrilled, and I don't know if I should just be kicking myself. You got a what the fudge plus. You're fucking furious. Well, I was this morning, but then we kind of just talked through it. It was like, well, does Orlovsky know what the Packers need? I don't know if he does.

So, you know, I'm kind of just reworking that right now. He's not handing out what the fudge pluses to anybody. No, never. I know. He had to go through his whole grading scale. Somebody asked him. He goes, A, B, C, D, E, F, W, T, F. Oh.

Oh, but a net minus or plus. W, T, F plus makes it seem like a. Oh. Oh, but a minus or plus. WTF plus makes it seem like a better grade. Yeah, you're right. I guess it could have been a what the fudge minus. Yes. That'd be tough. See? Could have been, yeah.

Yeah, if it would have been the first ever what the fudge minus. That's not good. Because what's next, by the way? Just like. You don't even play next year. Go to H-E-double-hockey-sticks-G. Uh-huh. Yeah.

What is that? All right. All right. Anyways. Hey, he also said the Lions are coming for the Packers. He said you better watch out. And that was no CAP. No.

No, no, no. All right. I mean, he is absolutely changing the game. Yeah, he's having a day. He's changing the game. Now, with that being said, he knows. I didn't know a lot of the motherfuckers. I didn't know any of the motherfuckers that were getting drafted.

I watched it. There was people getting drafted. I'm like, oh, awesome. This seems like a guy. And then they show highlights. I'm like, all right, here we go. But then I always think of Mitt who goes, people watching highlights, not watching film, aren't seeing the real game.

That's right. So what are we seeing from these guys? And sometimes the way a draft pick is reported in the fifth round, in like the sixth and seventh round, which very vital to a team, fourth, fifth, sixth round, that is pretty vital to a team on the come up, especially as somebody that was in the special teams department. Those are fourth, fifth rounders are going to make the team, going to be

around for at least a year but they're nowhere near going to have the leash that a first second third rounder but if you're a third fourth fifth rounder probably going to get a pass probably going to get some opportunities that other people won't the way some of them are presented as like oh this is a good fifth round pick for some people are like pointing, pointing at this guy, couldn't do this, couldn't do this, couldn't do this. That's why he's in the fifth round. If he could do it,

I'm like, damn. Can we not just show a highlight from this guy so we can see what we could potentially be getting from him? It's always interesting how they pick and choose how to report each person. I assume that all comes from how little gems about stories of people from behind the scenes,

what's being said, what's not being said. But some people are like, oh, this is good value for this pick. And then the next person looks to be, I don't know, the same exact football player as the person beforehand. And 10 years from now, that'll be the only judge. Maybe they both stink.

No. No, maybe they both don't. And by stink, I mean not make it in the NFL. It's just like the way the picks are talked about immediately afterwards, we have no fucking idea. We literally have no clue about any of these dudes. I guess we can hope. I guess we can hope.

I guess we can assume that NFL coaches are getting better and better. And programs are being run better and better. And there's better investments off the field. And people, you know, extra effort and extra work and extra tape is just going to continue to happen naturally for every single player and that drive to not want to do anything but become good at a position, that's just going to happen for everybody now, I assume, because social media exists. Like, I don't know.

The way everybody's talked about as being a definite success early and then it seemed like a lot more of the people towards the end as being failures, and I understand the percentage that say that, but, man, all of these dudes could be Hall of Famers and all of these dudes could stink and i guess that's why there's so much intrigue because who the fuck knows that's a good point though because i i wasn't even thinking about it but a lot of like on day three of them talking about you know a guy goes somewhere and it's like oh it's a great fit he's gonna be great here and then another guy goes and it's like what a massive reach you know why it is it and it really does it's like then immediately you're just thinking like

oh this guy stinks there's no way he's gonna make the team so we actually have a clip from uh shanahan and john lynch uh talking about this entire thing uh just as people's expectations of the draft are strictly off of what the media is depicting of what the teams are actually doing and shanahan who's been around this literally since what he was uh he's wearing like little baby shoes he was probably pooping and peeing in the diaper in the nfl this entire thing this is what he had to say alongside uh john lynch about the entire expectation and draft ratings going into the draft this thing for us is when you ask the question like where you think they're going or if you think you over went i mean i want to understands everyone ranks guys and there's a perception of when everyone's going to go but the reality of when someone's going to go is when someone picks them and you don't know that

until it happens you see it all over when people freak out and stuff but a lot of these guys are really good players I saw that with New England in the first round that guy's not surprised me at all or us surprised you based off of perception. You knew everyone in the world was saying there was no way, but everyone who watched that tape, they're like, but he looks like a first-rounder. Who's going to pull the trigger?

And you never know when that one person is because you're hoping the other 32 teams are saying, no, we've all read this. He's not going until the third round. Well, that's why someone takes him in the second round because he looks like a second-rounder, or he looks like a first-rounder. We all try to figure that out too but it only takes one team and that's why you don't want to mess around be too cute with it so basically what he just said is it's all bullshit what you're

hearing going yeah you know and they all know that going in there's good players that everybody can see on film but where they're going to end up at who's going to love them more than others is a game that's very difficult for us outside to try and predict. I wonder what it's like on the inside. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, a man who just got through another NFL draft. His team appears to be packed to the gills. Drafting Elam in the first round was a game changer, said the folks online. Then we saw a clip of Elam bringing his notebook to his meeting with the Bills at the Combine. Then on the call to tell him he was being drafted, he said, please send the playbook on the plane to pick me up. What a stud that is hopefully going to fit into the culture

that this man has built. Ladies and gentlemen, the general manager for the Buffalo Bills, Brandon Bean. Appreciate! Appreciate that. Hey, how many beers Sunday night with the entire scouting department? A lot? Is that a celebration? Saturday night was good. We usually break out the booze in the draft room. We move the computers out of the way, make sure the IT guys are not mad at us for spilling on it. But, yeah, it was a good time. Have some laughs, break some balls. Yeah, that's Super Bowl, right?

Draft is Super Bowl for some people in your building. Not everybody, but some people in your building. That is literally what their entire yearly plan is up to. So it should be treated accordingly with a successful celebration. No doubt. Hopefully you're excited. If not, you screwed up the last 11 months because it is an 11-month process. We start in late May already working on next year's crop.

So it's a long process, and, you know, it's always good to laugh. And we have a lot of banter through the process, like, you know, scouts going, this guy, I promise you he's going in the first round. And then, you know, people are going to the board like, I guarantee you, I'll bet you whatever, he doesn't go in the first round. And then you get it teamed up. So we kind of – we divvy those up after the draft. It's pretty fun.

Okay, so that leads me to the point that Kyle Shanahan was making there. There is a lot of conversation from the outside looking in. I guess we're a part of it now. So I would – I guess from us and the likes of us about who's going to draft who. It seems like even in the rooms, all the way up until draft week, your draft board and your draft grade on players are changing throughout. And how could anybody fucking know what's going on outside of their building? Do you guys have to rely on other insiders?

Do you watch TV? Does that give you anything? Like, how do you know what other people are thinking? Or does none of that matter? Well, I think sometimes you go off of history. You know, let's just say you have a player that you graded in the third round in the fall. That's the consensus. But he goes to – and you kind of think this guy is going to be a 4-4-5 corner.

And all of a sudden he goes to Indy and he runs 4-3-2 or, you know, 4-3, something like that. Then it starts to be like, dude, he's still this good of a player. But the other guy is like, yeah, but he, 4-3, something like that. Then it starts like, dude, he's still this good of a player, but the other guy's like, yeah, but he runs 4-3. Somebody's going to take him in the first round or, you know, whatever. You just – you get into some of those things. Or I'm telling you, he's had multiple GMs at his pro day. Like these guys are after him. He's going to go higher than you think.

Why did you see an Elam that made you fall in love with him? That clip from the combine with his notebook, giving it to you. I don't know if that was from the season, from his, a week of his season or what it was, but what did you immediately see that you're like, yup,

this dude needs to be a bill. Yeah. I mean, just the wiring. I mean, you want to, you want to make sure it's authentic. Like,

you know, as we checked into him, like it's not just trying to win, you know, the 15 minute interview,, like, it's not just trying to win, you know, the 15-minute interview. Hey, look at all these fucking – That he made all those notes on the plane like he did them all season. But, no, what his book was was him watching opposing receivers in the SEC that he was going against, just his notes of how he was going to play

and what they do well. And so, yeah, it was legit. And, you know, it was from University of Florida, that stuff. And it matches up with who he is, all the sources that we have in Florida. This guy loves ball. His dad played. His Uncle Matt played. Like, he's grown up around the game, knows what it takes.

And, you know, obviously his skill set's really good. He's, you know, he's over six foot. He ran, you know, right at 4'4". And he's a press man guy, but also can play off. We just like the flexibility he'll bring our defense. Hey, I think generational shit matters, by the way. Like, I think if you have seen it before, like even the guys who have parents that are in other professional sports,

like just if you've been around it, I think it is a massive advantage. Honestly, I do believe that. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Just the transition. transition you know his uncle and his dad can tell him like college is this but when you get to you walk in that nfl locker room it's different this is what you need to expect and you better be ready to roll yeah that's a huge ordeal i think and i'm happy that you even thought about that when you're looking i guess you would have to with everybody uh last question for me about the draft and i know the boys will probably have some. We can't thank you enough for joining us.

You take Matt Ariza, okay? Here we go. Now we're talking about, hey, there's been questions, obviously. I've talked around the NFL. I didn't want to interrupt anybody's real scouting process, but he was getting a lot of hype, and I'd watched it last fall, and he's a freak athlete. He's tough.

It seems like he's super competitive, which are all things that I love, and he has a massive leg. People are worried about his drop a little bit and his ball flight, from what I was told. I think he's athletic enough to figure it out. I feel like that is how you viewed it as well. Was that top player left on your board when you drafted him? Or did you have plans on drafting a punter, no matter what? Well, we had some guys, him being one of them, and several guys got drafted. Two of them went in the fourth round, so that shows you the value of where people see certain punters. Honestly, we thought when the two went in the fourth, and we had a fifth, and we still had

some guys on there. We took the kid from Boise that we thought no way Matt would still be there, but when we got to the top of the sixth, we just like the value met us was worth a shot here um he's he's he's raw but he's got a lot of talent a big leg as you said he's a competitive dude pat he you know if you've watched any of his film like he's worried about his net average he's chasing some of the cover guys down to get him down like he wanted that net average to be high yeah i think you'll figure it out like that's like that's like going into other positions. Like, oh, we think this guy has a competitive level enough that he'll want to work on it and figure it out.

That's said in other positions. I think it can happen at punter as well. I didn't know how to punt, basically, when I got drafted to punt. Bill Polian was like, we think you're athletic enough to figure it out. I feel the same way with Ariza. I honestly feel that way.

It is going to be a little bit of a process, I think. But I'm excited to see what he does up there. Your weather, I mean, ain't nobody want to punt up there. So if that motherfucker can figure it out, I mean, good luck, you know. Well, you know what? It's like being on the golf course. Just see your eye and let it fly.

We'll see how he does. How is the golf game? Are you getting into that right now, or what are you focusing on right now? Is it free agency, or do you get a little time off? What do you do with everybody? So so we'll do a little bit of staffing we got rookie minicamp uh in a week but after we get through that rookie minicamp uh hopefully the weather will be perfect here in buffalo and uh i can start catching up on all the rounds i've missed since uh since last july how's the game gonna be you think i got a new swing hey i got a new swing coming into this golf season i feel like you do i've been working on in been working on it in the house. Yeah, I'm coming out of the

pocket. I'm coming out of the pocket a little bit. I think I'm going to start shaping some. I love it. I love it. Keep that elbow inside. But no, it's fun. I got a little guy that I got a guy that works with me, so I'm looking forward to getting out there and making sure my swing's ready to

roll. I'm going to Scotland in June to play, so that's pretty much it. I'm going to Scotland in June to play. So that's going to be fun. We got eight of us that are heading over there. So it's going to be a good time. Oh, I believe that is a big time whiskey. I think, hey, that should be a blast. Like a dream bucket list type trip. Hope you enjoy it.

Last question for me before the boys. Happy about draft class? Has there ever been a draft class you guys weren't happy about? Or is everybody happy after every single draft? Because it's like it played out how it played out. We got who we could got. We like who we like.

Is that what it always is? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think if you're one of those teams, if you didn't have multiple high picks, maybe you're like, ah, we didn't really add any huge players.

Maybe we just got some depth back in players. But you're right. You shouldn't be drafting players that you're not excited about. So I've never talked to someone who's like, man, we had a shitty weekend. We really screwed it up. Hopefully next year. Yeah, we didn't like any of those guys.

I mean, they were forced. They had a shot clock on us, man. Hey, was there a lot of movement this year? Hey, was there more calls being made this year than in years past? As far as for trades? Yeah. Yeah, a lot of movement this year? Hey, was there more calls being made this year than in years past? As far as for trades? Yeah. Yeah, a lot of calls for trades, really. The only pick that I really don't remember the phone ringing was our seventh and our third.

Other than that, it seemed like every pick the phone was ringing to either go up or go back. They wanted yours or they were trying to get you to get theirs? Sometimes both. pick the phone was ringing to either go up or go back they wanted yours or they were trying to get you to get theirs but but sometimes both sometimes people are calling you saying hey um we'll we'll take your you know will you move up like they're ahead of us will you move up so that we can add your fifth round pick or your sixth round pick um but we also had some people calling we traded down twice in the second uh to add a six We had some people calling there. One of them wanted like a future pick, and we weren't going to get anything now. It really didn't make sense for us. How does it work? You just answer the phone.

There's one phone, one for up, one for down, and everybody's on? Or how does it go? No, so I had a couple guys. So my college director, Terrence Grave, he's our assistant director of player personnel now, and Brian Gane, former GM at Houston. Those two guys were kind of my liaisons. They're tracking stuff. And then sometimes my phone's ringing or I'm getting a text from one of the GMs,

hey, would you guys be interested in moving up or back? If so, you jump on the phone and you start looking at your trade chart and see what makes sense. Oh, man, that sounds exciting. That sounds like a great weekend. Go ahead, Ty. Brandon, a lot of people have talked about how this specific draft class, there were a few guys that were maybe head and shoulders above the rest,

but after that there was kind of just like a big pool of talent in the center. Did it make it more stressful because of that, or do you kind of when you're looking at things and you know you've done all your due diligence leading up, do you fall in love with guys a little bit easier maybe because there isn't like a clear-cut guy that you should be taking yeah i think it honestly it made it easier because yeah you had those those top picks but there there wasn't the premium level um you know let's call it quarterbacks or past you know you didn't see the Miles Garretts,

the Chase Youngs, those types of guys. So, you know, some top corners up there and some offensive tackles. But beyond that, it dropped off pretty quick to where, you know, the talent, you know, in more depending on what you're looking for, you can kind of go positions of need, maybe early, you're going to be able to find somebody with a similar skill, you know, talent level. So after we took the corner, we really were able to kind of just let the board. We felt at most rounds that we could go offense or defense with what was on the board at the time. So I kind of like, you know, if I was in the top ten, you want those premium players. But being where we were, I was fine with the way it was because there was a lot of players that just wasn't the elite top-tier guys.

You're hoping it's like that forever? Yeah. I want to be picking 32. I'm tired of picking in the 20s. Hey, you know, if there was a different overtime, right? That's right. Hey, what were your thoughts on Kyle Brant? Hey, Kyle Brant cut a good promo up there.

That was good. Oh, yeah. That was entertaining. I was not sure what he was going to do. We knew he was going to do the pick, but that was like WWE style. And pulling the chicken wing out that had been in his pocket for whatever, three or four days, that was pretty entertaining. Hopefully it went down his stomach pretty well.

Yeah, real commitment to the bit. We respect it. Thought he crushed it. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Brandon, what's the process like with signing the undrafted guys? Do you kind of have a projection of who you think probably will not get drafted? And do you tell those guys, like, hey, if you don't get picked up, we're going to come after you and we want you in Buffalo still?

Yeah, you kind of look at your board, maybe guys, six, seventh rounders, and guys that you've just taken off your board. And you have your own kind of stack of those guys a week ago from now. So you start before the draft, and you just call, you check in with those guys, and say, listen, I hope you get drafted. You wish them well. But if something doesn't happen, we really think you'd be a great fit here. And that's kind of your initial get them thinking about how they would they would fit buffalo bills whether they're an offensive player playing with josh allen or or

one of our defensive players how about the contract for them i back in the day it was different maybe than it is now because with the new cba isn't every single draft pick basically slotted cash wise like hey this is the amount of money bum bum bum and then undrafted free agents isn't there some wiggle room don't they have some leverage every once in a while? Don't some of the undrafted free agents get some leverage? Yeah, so you get two things. One, you can max out. So the league sends you a number that's agreed upon with the union

where, like, this year it was around 100. We can spend in signing bonuses, cumulative, $166 million. So we can spread that out over 10 guys or two guys or three you know however you want to do it the other nuance that can be negotiated is guarantee how much do i want to guarantee and you guarantee that with offset so if i guarantee a guy fifty thousand dollars of his paragraph five if we cut him and he goes to another team, we're not going to be on the hook for that $50,000. They'll pick it up. Or if he goes to practice squad,

he's going to work that off over several weeks' time. So that's kind of how – those are the two things that can be negotiated by an agent. Hey, salary cap, got some wiggle. This is a huge conversation right now, as you know. You're one of the men that is in charge of building an incredible roster right now. Now, you just signed Diggs, right? I don't know if we've talked to you since you signed him. Congratulations.

Yeah, I appreciate that. Congratulations. Glad to get that done. Yeah, well, you got Josh done. You got Diggs done. You got Von Miller done on the defensive side of the ball. It feels like, you know, I don't want to say a lot of the big pieces are in for a while, but it does feel that way.

How do you project the next 10 years in the salary cap? Because does anybody know right now how big it can get? It's bigger than it's ever been, and it's only going to grow. Hey, Apple's going to get involved. They're already trying to get involved. Google's going to get involved. Maybe Netflix is going down. Amazon's in there.

Sports gambling is only going to grow. That's only going to get bigger. The amount of money that's going to come into the NFL that's going to grow that salary cap, is there any proper projections that you guys are all hearing, or are you just kind of guessing whenever you're deciding to backload deals a little bit? Yeah, you're trying to guess. You're trying to forecast. COVID totally screwed that up with it going backwards.

We're still, you know, went back 18 million, you know, you know, a year ago. So it's, we're still kind of behind. We're at 208 this year. We should be probably more like 225 to 230. So we're still behind. And they took some of the benefits from the players that we still have to repay back that they, to keep the cap high enough last year during COVID. So there are some things that even though all those things you mentioned are happening, which are great for the league and great for the cap, I do think it's going to get there. I don't know what it will be next year. We get some projections, but they don't ever give us too much

because they want to try to control our spending. And they also want to keep it competitive, right, because some places won't go as much as everybody else so keep that information out of that motherfucking beans head all right we don't need his ass out there on the phones we ain't doing nothing around here they know their personnel pat go ahead how much does like uh pedigree come into your draft process and how you look at a player you obviously take take Dalvin Cook's brother and James Cook. The Steelers have four pairs of brothers on their team. You have one of the Edmonds on your roster.

How much does pedigree come if they have a brother, if they have a dad who played? Does that come into your scouting process? Yeah, we were talking about that with Elam, too, with his dad and his uncle. Definitely, I look at it as a bonus because it's like the answer to the test. You already kind of know. These people are walking you through. You've been around. Obviously with James Cook, he's been around his brother Dalvin. Some of the stuff we talked about with James when he came in here for his 30 visit. What has Dalvin taught you about the league? The difference between college and pro. The same thing with

Kyre. It's an added bonus anytime you're looking at a the league the difference between college and pro and um the same thing with with kair so it's it's an added bonus anytime you're looking at a player that brother um uncle father whoever's playing the league hey what could go wrong on those you know 30 visits you get has anybody ever had a bad one with you nowadays that everybody's kind of prepped on everything i mean it's is it not a yes sir no sir operation with everybody at all times almost on those visits, or is there some outliers? No, I think what happens is with me it's yes-sir, no-sir, with McDermott, maybe the coach. But we try and put them around a lot of people from who picks them up

at the airport, who picks them up and takes them to a restaurant to meet the coaches. Like, how were they in the car? Were they on the phone all the time? Were they engaging? Did they in the car? Were they on the phone all the time? Were they engaging? Did they ask legit questions? You know, we'll have them meet with our player engagement, you know, our training staff.

We may ask them to do some things like get on the scales, height, weight, just different things. Were they cooperative during their whole visit? So we'll assign a pro scout to each person that we bring in just to kind of be their escort, their chaperone through the building as they're here today. And at the end of that, they'll kind of send me a quick little recap of how their business went and what people said about them. And you hope it's with flying colors, but sometimes you'll get some feedback that not everybody in the building really liked this guy. Equipment manager liked this guy equipment manager said this guy was quite an asshole actually well that means a lot though that's a huge ordeal that's

a little bit of uh that's not something you could pick up in an interview especially if somebody's been completely prepped or it might not be something you could pick up from a college's coaches either because the coaches know that if that guy goes the NFL it looks good on the whole entire program that's a piece of information that you can literally only find out at that point. That's smart. How do you think, and we were talking about this, how do you, and do you pay attention to the day-to-day sports cycle, media cycle, or no?

NFL-wise, I try to. I don't necessarily, not necessarily all sports. Man, it is so much bullshit, man. Like everything that was a month and a half before the draft turned out to be accurate. Month and a half before the draft, it was like there's only maybe one first-round quarterback. These quarterbacks are none of them are first-round grade. I think they were even talking about runs in certain positions like a month and a half. And then it all just becomes complete bullshit.

All the way up until the draft, everything just becomes – it has to be that way, huh? Because you guys are all trying to gain leverage on everybody at all times. Yeah, I mean, there's all sorts of games people are playing and you've got agents calling around, you know, asking you where they think their guy's going. And you're like, I don't know, he's probably a third-day guy. And they'll try and – some of them will try and say, oh, he's not getting off out of the second round.

And you're like, okay, well, if someone's that excited about him, take him. He's not going to be a Buffalo Bill in the second round. But that's just you get a lot of that stuff. And sometimes agents are concerned. They hear, hey, you know, my guy has, you know, people are complaining about his knee at the combine. Like it never swells on him. It never does. And they have a doctor send you a note. But, you know, sometimes is the doctor,

does he have an agenda too to protect this agent or the player? So you still have to go off of your doctor and what he says. But you'll get some last-minute stuff when people see their guy fall and trying to kind of move him back up. Yeah, we're just trying to figure out how not to fall for it again next year. But I feel like we're going to be hook, line, sinker again. Yeah, we're just trying to figure out how not to fall for it again next year, but I feel like we're going to be hook, line, and sinker again. There's true some stories that are hard not to believe,

but you're right. There's so much bullshit out there. It's just best to ignore it all. Not with old Brain and Bean, though. Not in that bullshit. Except for maybe on the course next week when we get out after the rookie minicamp. We can't thank you enough for joining us. You were the best. Thank you for your time and congrats on a great draft weekend.

Appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me, Pat. Ladies and gentlemen, general manager of the Buffalo Bills, Brandon Bean. Yeah! Yeah! Hell yeah!

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We have Jim Irsay joining us one hour from now. Owner of the Indianapolis Colts. Can't wait to chit-chat with him about what's going on with the team, how he feels. Big investments in the free agency this offseason. Also, fresh off a draft,

how is Jim Irsay doing as a human? He has a museum that travels around and tours as a rock band. Yeah, unbelievable. Might be one of the coolest things going right now. I'm excited to ask him about that because he has these little pop-up shows, I don't know, like in front of the Washington Monument,

in front of like – Yeah, Lincoln Memorial. I think so. Out in L.A., he just popped up at some place, and he has like the original Buddhist temple thing right across the middle. He has the Beatles, all their drum sets and all their guitars out. He has wax figures of people that have been autographed and stories and tales. And in the back, he has a collection of all your rock stars basically playing in a jam band.

And they're playing music. Yeah, pretty sweet. If you were a billionaire, that's one way to go about doing it. That is certainly one way to go about doing it yeah that is certainly one way to go about doing and enjoying it while building a hell of a football team toxic tables here at ty schmid at boston connor tone digs is here and joining us from an attic in ohio man is going to react to everything happening in the entire world right now uh aj hi what's going on aj what's up bud happy birthday big day for you huh thank you i appreciate that it is uh large i didn't hey i haven't seen your post yet where you gotta say hey what's up i

didn't know that duane johnson had the same birthday as me happy birthday duane yeah duane david beckham the queen i believe oh wow there's i've been buried in england i think so yeah i believe congrats man well i, what is your deal? That's pretty cool to share a birthday, I mean, first with Dwayne Johnson, who I would assume is one of your heroes growing up, for sure, especially now as a queen as well. Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, and then the eyebrow-raising presidential candidate doing,

I mean, he is obviously a legend out there. They're opening a second Terra Mana distillery. Wow. Can't wait. Yeah, he was there this weekend. He was there this weekend on site. That's awesome. Yeah, man, it's only going to be, I mean, Young Rock Season 2 is crushing it.

Of course. Terra Mana has sold more than anybody else. Hell yeah. The best waffles in the game. Oh, the French toast, they think, too. His superhero movie's coming out this year. Oh, let's go. Things are only getting better for Dwayne.

Fast and Furious franchise is falling apart without him. Whoa. Yes, it is. Yeah, right. Director left the set. Hey, happy birthday, Rock. Happy birthday, Dwayne. We appreciate everything you've done, man.

Happy birthday, Rock. Happy birthday, David Beckham. Happy birthday. Keep having it, bro. David Beckham. I believe a few others as well, but thank you for that. I'm very lucky and fortunate to survive another year. This last year was absurd.

I can't wait to see what these next 365 hold. Hopefully, I'm a much better golfer then than I am now because, AJ, with just a few months left before this Tahoe tournament, I have yet to go back out onto a golf course. That is a little bit of a struggle right now, AJ. Yeah, I'd say especially with your schedule, it's a little tough. You've got to really jam in. Short practice time is probably either early in the morning

or maybe later at night. Well, with the draft, everything going on in the draft this weekend and a surprise birthday party that I found out about a couple hours before that just turned into a birthday party, that was a great time. Fucking great time. But that's going to knock you out Sunday afternoon at least because of how many beers were had the night before. We were having beers, AJ. It just turned into a birthday party. That was a great time. Fucking great time. But that's going to knock out Sunday afternoon at least. Yeah. Because of how many beers were had the night before.

We were having beers, AJ. We were having beers. Hey, we were having. Just beers? You didn't have makers? Well, there was a little Gentleman Jack there as well. I believe some people had that. A lot of tequila was out there.

We were having some vodka. We were having a lot of beer. We were having more beer. Did you go swimming? Was the pool open? Well, it turned out. I found out that I have fountains in my pool, which is cool. I'm fucking high society, dude. Don't know how to say it.

I moved into this house and learned a lot. Keggerator with a bottoms up tap. Game changer. You put the cup on the... Lorenzen, I am so sorry. I almost did that. This is the top of the keg here. There's a keggerator.

Then this is the tap and you put your cup down in it. The thing goes into the cup and fills your beer up, all the way up, and then you move it, and it's like the perfect ice-cold beer, basically. Yeah. It is so good. And you just happened to have one at the house? Yeah, I moved in. The guy who lived there before me had one, and it was left there.

So is it special cups that you've got to put on there? Yeah, it comes with specialty cups. I think I've seen that at a really nice bar one time. Dumbest thing of all time. The beers are so good. Oh, my God. And the process is hilarious.

You know what I mean? Like the whole watching a fucking movie. Did you get your Jagerator for your birthday? What's that, pal? What? I thought someone was

getting you a Jagerator. Is that what you get? Did you get me a Jagerator? No, honestly, there is something coming tomorrow to you. It getting you a Jagerator. Did you get me a Jagerator? No, honestly, there is something coming tomorrow to you. It's not a Jagerator. Hey, supply chain has been awesome for gift giving, by the way. I know there's a lot of knocks on supply chain because a lot of things are coming late and stuff like that. And we're trying to build the Thunderdome right now.

So it is a nightmare. It's an excuse for everything. It is. Hey, happy birthday. Gifts on a what? Supply chain. I mean, you know, that fucking boat with the dock, with the shipping, the trucking. Evergreen.

Evergreen, the wintergreen, the whole thing. I mean, I think it's on that boat, actually. So it's not on Suresh Canal right now, but it'll be here in a little bit. I ordered it two weeks ago, though. I was thinking about you. I was so happy for your birthday. Like, that can happen now. Everybody can use it.

So shout out to Supply Chain. Shout out. With that being said, don't worry about it, AJ. You already gift us enough whenever you come on this show every single day and spill the goods. The Packers, okay, in Dan Orlovsky's grading scale, didn't get an A. No, no. Didn't get a B.

Nope. Nor a C or a D. Nope. Always skipped E. Never really made sense to me. They got a WTF plus, which is better than a WTF negative. Your thoughts on the Packers draft? And Aaron told us exactly what they were going to do

while he was on the first round with us, and they did exactly what he said. So what are your expectations, I guess, Dan, or is Dan right here? Well, I don't exactly know how to judge WTF plus what that means, but it is what the fudge, correct? Yes. And is he just saying he is confused that why didn't trade up and hire into the first round to get a receiver or what? Well, see, I thought he was like optimistic because the plus was on him.

I thought it was like, what the fuck? Like as a positive, but they said it was negative. No, yeah. He pretty much was saying that he thought that they should have used that one or two of their first day picks on a receiver. Okay. Because they didn't score in the NFC Championship last year, and these guys, like the defense isn't the issue.

Adding these guys doesn't really. WTF, dude. WTF. Yeah, I guess. I mean, when they're, I wonder how he came up with that when they said, hey, we want you to submit grades for each team or for these teams and how they did in the draft. I don't know if that was on the Scantron as one of the multiple choice questions.

Did he create it or did somebody mention it to him? You know how you say, what the fudge? You think? Yeah, I mean, come on. No, he says, what the fudge, like in real life, which is something to get past. He's the only person I've ever actually had numerous conversations with in a friendship way that say, you know, like the way he speaks.

You know what I mean? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I have some friends like that too. Yeah, you just got to accept them. Don't be judgy. I can't because they want to say, fuck, you're an adult. Just say it.

I always say, like, if you're going to do it, just say, like, yeah, exactly. Yes. Yeah. It's almost like the thought is there. Like, what are we doing? We get it. Okay. I know what you're trying to say.

And there's no kids here, by the way. Just turn it on, turn it off whenever you're with the kids or whatever. And then, oh, I can't. I don't think it's right to use those words or whatever it's like well here's another conversation i don't want to get into because i like you as a person you know what i mean and i am a natural swearer every single human i've been around my entire life i feel like natural swears i i don't know there is a real judgment i guess on people that swear but every single study that has come out basically says the swearers are normally the more truthful, the more, you know, natural, whatever.

I don't know. Neither here nor there. I've been, I've been in trouble for my mouth for a long time. Not just because I speak a lot, but because the words that have come out for a long time, you know what I mean? I mean, we're dropping fucks early, early, early in life. And I know it's embarrassing and some stuff you shouldn't do it. But if you're naturally saying what the fudge to me as an adult, I just, I don't know how to do it.

I respect it. I respect you can do it with a straight face. I really am. Exactly. Well, I guess that's how I should look at it. Like, congratulations on your commitment to that, I guess. You're making the world better. I understand if people don't, if not cussing or whatever, like it's not a huge part of my life but i don't have to i don't abbreviate other

i don't abbreviate things for it i just speak yeah i don't know it's a weird situation i've had somebody say fudge you to me and i laughed yeah yeah that wasn't a real conversation can you tell me who that was no no no i can't but it did happen yeah were you in third grade no no this was an adult and the person was not like happy They used it as like, oh, actually, man, they're really mad. They didn't really say it was the group that I was in. You know what I mean? Yeah, they were not. Fudge you guys, man.

All right. I had to turn. I had to turn and leave. I was ruined the whole moment. You know, there's a whole conversation going on. It's like, I'd be a great way to deescalate a situation. If you're about to have some violence and someone yelled that at you. You're like, wait, what?

It was an agreement on if we were going to do something or not. And there was a split party. Okay? There was a split party. We were forced to be together. And then there was a split decision. When was this? It was at like a thing. It was a thing. Was this a friend of yours?

No. The person was not. I was with a friend at a thing. It was a thing. Was this a friend of yours? No. The person was not. I was with a friend at a thing. It was like a convention thing and they put these people together. It was like a breakout room. It was awesome. Fudge you guys, man.

All right, I'm leaving. I'm out of here. I did not make it to day three of the convention. But, I mean, things are happening. Things are good happening. Dan says that

and we have to take him serious because he does have a football brain. He does have access to everything. So you always have to wonder, like, his film breakdowns. Is he doing this because he saw it? Let's assume yes. But also, he's got a lot of people giving him great information, so there has to be a reason.

We know that we cannot judge any of these draft classes right now because in five to ten years, it might be vastly different. Some of these guys that we think are locks might be terrible. Kenny Pickett might be a fucking guy. I him in kennywood this past weekend he looks the part he was walking across the bridges of pittsburgh they're taking photos of his hair flowing and his hat and it was windy he looks like he looks the part aj he could go and be a fucking guy tommy said they could compete or he could be a complete bust. We have no idea, AJ. No idea. That's kind of how it is with everybody. And quarterbacks, I guess, some people may think

are the easiest to be able to tell, hey, if this guy is a dude or not, like if he turns out. But I feel like most people, weren't they giving the Packers some credit saying, hey, we felt like it was a solid draft because they couldn't get the value they wanted. They had to give up too much to get up in the front of that first round. I think it's strictly because Aaron came on the show,

Doran Drafton, and I was like, yeah, I'm not that upset about it. So if you're upset about it, what are you upset about? Are you upset for me? Are you upset for me? He seemed pretty relaxed about everything. Also, they did get very aggressive on the second day. They traded up big time. They had, what, the second or the third pick in the second round,

and they got the guy who, leading up to it, a lot of people said, like, hey, this is who the Packers really want. Yeah, they were going to have to give up way too much to go get those receivers in the second round. And they got the guy who, leading up to it, a lot of people said, like, hey, this is who the Packers really want. Yeah, they were going to have to give up way too much to go get those receivers on the first day. They added two guys who were going to help them out right away on defense. And then they got probably the guy they wanted the most at receiver early on the second day. Rodgers, you know, obviously texted him right away.

And, I mean, I didn't see that many people who were upset about it. I mean, like, it wasn't as flashy as maybe some people thought it was going to be, but I assume that they're probably still going to do a little bit more work on wide receiver going into the season. And I think if you're a Packers fan, you should be happy with what they did. Jets and Giants fans are pumped. Jets and Giants fans absolutely pumped. They had two and three first-round draft picks overall.

A lot of pillars can be built over there, AJ. A lot of pillars can be built around good guys or young guys that end up being your hardest workers and your most successful guys. We saw it here at the Colts. Quentin Nelson, Darius Leonard drafted in the same draft class. They have become the pillars of that team, kind of set the tone for that team, and they've been set up. Now, granted, didn't make the playoffs last year.

But you get it. That could be a big – those are altering. You get three to like five guys there in the two New York teams in the first round. That's huge news. Well, if they come in and they can contribute right away and they're making plays, you're right. You can change the culture of that place pretty quick when you have some fresh blood come in there

and these dudes are eager, they're excited, and you taste some victory. I think that can trickle down to the rest of the team, even some vets that maybe haven't been used to winning in the last couple of years, they can figure it out. And Shane and Joe Douglas, by the way, are telling all those guys that we're building this team around you. That's why we drafted you in the first round. So that empowerment going into the locker room,

even though they're young, even though they're the new ones, they're being told by the GMs and by the coaches like, hey, we are investing in you to become the next for this team. So that type of confidence that you can go in there as a young person, reestablish an entire culture, I think it could happen. I honestly believe it could happen, but will it? History says no, but it's possible. It is certainly possible.

Now, other news stories coming out of the NFL, not just the draft. Tyron Matthews signing with the New Orleans Saints back in Louisiana. Congrats to Brian Kelly, you know, getting LSU legend back into the same state. Probably going to use the hell out of him for recruiting, especially with how much he loves LSU with everything that he learned and went through down there. The Saints are making a key post-draft addition, reports Ian Rappaport, as they're expected to sign all pro safety, the landlord, Tyron Matthew.

A long-awaited signing that should be finalized in the coming days. The Honey Badger lands in the perfect spot, says Ian Rappaport. He's getting that information from somebody inside the operation that says it's a perfect spot. If you do recall, Tyron Matthew went and visited the Saints facility, did a whole walk around and left. His quote was, I don't think they need me on that team, but I obviously enjoyed it and that whole thing. So we talked like, oh, they don't need Tyron Matthew on their squad? It's because they had signed a safety or had a couple on the team. If they're bringing him in, it's not to be a backup, right, AJ?

Tyron Matthews is not going to the Saints to be a backup. The Saints had $70 million over the cap, like one week before the salary cap needed to be down. Then they got all these moves in and ended up $30 million under the cap, able to sign a quarterback, get Michael Thomas back. Now they're signing one of the notable free agents. Mickey Loomis and them down there, what they do, AJ, is very fucking impressive. It is, but I think I saw a stat during the draft. Their offense averaged like 187 yards a game, I believe,

the lowest in the NFL. So that's not a thing we're used to seeing when it comes to the Saints. I understand Drew Brees retired, but they're going to have to figure that out. Is Tyron Matthew playing quarterback? We'll find out. We'll keep our ear to the ground. That understand Drew Brees retired, but they're going to have to figure that out. Is Tyron Matthew playing quarterback? We'll find out. We'll keep our ear to the ground. That'll be sweet. That'll be fun though, man. The fans love him. I hope he goes down there and makes plays right away

and just starts knocking dudes' heads off and getting pick sixes. That place will explode. He is an absolute fan favorite of everybody in the league, I feel like, but especially going back home. It's going to be special. Hey, that Superdome can be a buzzsaw, too. You get going. You make a play.

That place gets loud. Terrible. Terrible place to play. I mean, awesome environment. Very, very difficult place to win when they're rolling. And it's, yeah, their fans are crazy. There's actual witch doctors in the crowd. Yeah.

All right. I don't know what we're supposed to fucking do, dude. We got the whistle guy. The whistle guy. I'm not gonna say because i don't know personally but there's a lot of other great fans down oh yeah so i assume they do not like whistle guy because whistle guy gets a lot of the hype yeah you know and there's a lot of other new orleans saints fans that are like excuse me this place is really fucking loud

not just because of goddamn whistle okay we got witches and witch doctors and voodoo things right here and there's a drunk Cajun man up at the top yelling louder than anybody's ever heard. There's a lot of whistling with the tongue flip thing down here. They fucking go bananas in that place. First play of the game, Curtis

Painter, strip sack. After a touchback, ball in the 20 at the time, not the 25. Strip sack. They scored a touchdown right there. Next play, obviously, they kick off. We throw a pick six. Jesus. I believe 14-0 right there, and that place did not stop the rest of the evening.

We lost 60-something to like 20 or maybe 19 or something, and they were allowed the entire fucking time. It was a primetime game. What a buzzsaw that place can become. So if on offense you can get rolling, you can get going. Last year with that Taysom Hill playing quarterback a little bit. I think they had like negative

18 yards when Ian Book, the game started there. He seemed to have a little bit of beef against Notre Dame quarterback. Well, no, no, no. He didn't have much of a chance. No, he did not. I think he got sacked like 11 times, but you bring Michael Thomas back. A lave. You, he did not. I think he got sacked like 11 times. But you bring Michael Thomas back, you get Olave. I think they were 5-2, right, when Jameis was the starter.

They didn't get worse on defense or whatever, and now their number one wideout from last year becomes the number three or whatever, three or four. It's a much better situation. Yep, and new offense, right? New head coach. Who's the coordinator? The D.C. Dennis Allen, right? Yeah. Dennis Allen Who's the coordinator? The D.C.

Dennis Allen, right? But yeah. Dennis Allen, but he's defense. Sean Payton will have to. No, what's the head coach? What's the head coach? Dennis Allen.

Yeah, so obviously I knew that. Who's calling the offensive plays now? Good question. TBD. What if it's Drew Brees? Are they trading him to Fox?

That was the rumor. Yeah, he's up for that gig, right? There's alleged rumor that Drew Brees was going to get traded from NBC to Fox. Would that be the number one to be the number one, you think? With Burkhart then, right? Is that what that would be for? To do the games. Yeah, I'm sure that's.

What other position would it be? Oh, now we're talking football and Fox. Urban Meyer's going back to Fox. Oh, yeah. Sean Payton, apparently, is going to Fox. In studio. So he's going to be a part of Jay Glazer's family. Tony Gonzalez out, probably. Oh, yeah. Sean Payton, apparently, is going to Fox. In studio. So he's going to be a part of Jay Glazer's family. Tony Gonzalez out, probably.

Oh, yeah. Is he out? He's going to Amazon, right? Or is he full-time Amazon or just doing it? I don't know. He made an announcement he's with Amazon. Oh, yeah. Maybe, yeah.

Payton slides right in. So then, yeah, Sean Payton gets his suit, goes over there, watches the games. Good for them. That show will continue to be great. And then. Greg Olson? Yeah, what happens with Greg? Because he did that whole, it was for a Bud Light.

He'll still have a crew. Yeah, but he should be. Don't we think he should? For sure. What about Gus? How come we didn't move Gus? I was going to say him and Gus together. Oh, he's not doing NFL this year.

Who is it? Gus. Why? Yeah, what did he say? He's going back to school, so he doesn't have time to call the NFL. He's just going to do college. No. Gus is getting a doctorate?

That school he's going to is pretty involved. It's pretty serious, too. Look at what he's doing. Harvard? The school is fucking lucky that Gus is going. It is. It's one of them where he had to, like, yeah, he's doing a lot. What's he doing?

He's teaching a class? Who the fuck is teaching Gus Johnson? He's doing the Harvard Advanced Leadership Initiative project. He's working for Harvard. Wow. He's pissed because they put him on Lions games last year the whole season. Gus ain't got time for terrible NFL games. That makes sense.

They still have Stink and Amin. They're a good box. Stink. Shout out Stink Stink and Amin. They're a good box. Stink. Shout out Stink. Shout out Stink. They got a good tweet. Stink gave me a shout out. Stink, I do not agree with everything you said there.

And I think there has been great picks before. Me, Reggie, Drew, everybody. There's a bunch of people that have made picks entertaining. But there was a couple up there that was like, hey. Wrap it up. Get to the pick. Not the Colts, though. Hey, there's people that are thinking that about made picks entertaining, but there was a couple up there that was like, hey. Wrap it up. Get to the pick. Not the Colts, though. Hey, there was people that were thinking that about me, too, by the way,

when I was speaking. So no. Was there a lot of people that did that? The only thing I saw was the one dude who had to get basically. Donny Osmond? Just take him off the stage. Bro, that guy got the hook, man. The lady literally comes out.

Read the fucking thing. Who sent? Was that her decision? She goes out there and says, I'm going? That was right. She did not want to go. They had to send her out, I bet. Walked out the incredibly long stage all the way out there and tell him, hey, sir, we don't care.

What if Raj came out and slapped him in the face? Rich eyes. What if Raj would have came out? Hey, did they give you a fucking card or no? What was all on there? Oh, right here. Read this. Boom. It even says they are selecting look at that that's it right there that's all we fucking need thank you and then walks back that would have been a great bit that probably would have been oh yeah the most watch clip

from the entire trip maybe he was waiting for that maybe that's what this yeah this dude was playing he was playing next game yes Yeah. And Rod didn't have the stomach for it. Rod's like, I can't do that. He's going to end up a legend. You got to do that entire thing. Brant killed it. The Blue Man Group is tough. I used to be a Blue Man Group fan, I think, because they used to be drummers, right?

Oh, yeah. I don't know what the fuck they're doing now. They still are, aren't they? I don't know. I didn't see them drumming at all. I feel like they do awkward stuff. Yeah, now they're just an uncomfortable act of comedy. Yeah, shooting construction paper into the air.

I thought there had to be a payoff. So they joined the NFL Networks. Rich Eisen, Schrags got up. Daniel Jeremiah got up. Chuck, Charles. And Charles Davis. They all got up, and just the Blue Man Group joined Rich Eisen. Rich had become a bit bitter at this point to all the shenanigans.

A little bit bitter. It seemed like his tone at this point was a bit bitter with everything. And the Blue Man Group, I don't blame him at all. They didn't say anything. They can't speak. They don't speak. They didn't have any visual words or anything. So he was literally just sitting there in front of an awkward three dudes

painted blue, basically. And then they got this air blower thing open and it was supposed to shoot like air streamer like paper streamers yeah confetti and at first you know like paper streamer like uh that you decorate like you hang for a birthday okay but it was stuck so he had they had the oats they struggled with that so that was that was like a botch a little bit of a botch. So they go there, they shoot the whole thing, and then there's no end. I thought it was all going to lead to something. It was just, no, that just happened. They started fucking with the cameras.

Yeah, they touched the camera, turned the camera. I'm glad I didn't see this. Then they went to break. Then they went to break. There was no payoff. There was no... But how tough is that? They don't speak,

so it's already a difficult situation for everyone involved. You would think whenever they shot that thing out, there was going to be some sort of message maybe that was going to come or they were going to paint something. There was not. I guess it was like, hey, we're adding a little bit of Vegas into the draft. It's how they do it. Exactly.

Osmond was there. Obviously, Wayne. Wayne Newton. He pronounced something wrong. Wayne did something wrong. Angel, obviously. Chris Angel was spinning At the speed of Fucking sound

Yeah I was getting sick Watching him spin Yeah Oh my god He did it though He did How do you not puke?

Good question He's a maniac He's Chris Angel What do you mean? He's used to it I guess He was That was uncomfortably fast

And I don't think They told the hosts What the act was So the one i was watching and chris angel is spinning right now and he got the jacket off all right how about roger goodell roger goodell what day was it it might have been the blue man group might have been a blue man group day two or day three i forget roger goodell walks out onto the stage and actually points like this and he goes all right and then turns to the thing and you know they start booing you as you can get louder whatever just completely whatever

the performance was they had like a little act always kick it off literally point and go what the fuck was that there's no way we there's no way that's what we thought this was going to be let's go ahead and keep it moving i do enjoy them livening up a little bit because it does get very very boring yeah but i think when they're doing that, they have to keep it easily legible on the screen on who's going where and what's happening. Because they'll have interviews with, like, Tomlin and Carroll, but on the screen they have whoever's current pick it is,

and then they have a ticker going with previous picks that aren't who Tomlin and Carroll picked, though. So they're doing an interview with Tomlin, and I might not have caught the beginning or know exactly who they all drafted. So he's given this long answer about somebody that I don't even know who they got drafted on the screen. It's Browns are selecting, blah, blah, blah.

And then on the ticker, it's like some information from like two hours ago. I enjoy them trying to bring a little spice, AJ, but I think they have to keep it at least watchable. You know what I mean? I think they have to keep it watchable out there. Well, yeah, I agree. They should be trying new things to make. You never know what's going to hit.

Some things will hit eventually. I was just wondering if that old orangutan was going to come back that was at the draft that you were at. You're talking about Rocky? I mean, there's a lot of great zoos out in Vegas, right? They could have brought some animals in. Well, I think a lot of people are just zoos out there, right? Isn't that kind of the thing?

What do you mean? Oh, it's private ownership. Oh. Are Siegfried and Roy still around? Did they come out? Well, no. I think Tiger ate someone. Are they both passed or just one?

I believe just one died. Oh, okay. And that one died from the tiger yeah he got mauled pretty good yeah ripped up he lived for a while after it though yeah he survived the tiger attack oh yeah drinking out of a you know drinking eating his meals through a straw for the rest of his life and then that's what they say dangerous game playing with his big kids yeah joe exotic was able to survive it well how was. He will. How'd that happen? You know, when did people just start buying these massive animals and doing that whole thing? I'd be scared to death.

My one cat, Teddy, he gets upset, I get scared. I'm like, all right, that thing can fucking bounce. It's 300 pounds. That thing can jump off that wall right there on my head before I even know it. These tigers and shit, the more documentaries you watch, why would you fucking ever want to be around? I have no idea. How do they, and it's just just a natural thing i feel like we all learn that through the tiger king situation oh yeah well and i mean you can tell too with joe exotic especially like those everything's good when you know they're giving them treats and feeding them meat if those things

ever get pissed off just like slightly pissed off they'll fucking grab one of your legs and drag you yeah exactly you're done who knows the sedatives they're pumping through those things too at times in the meat you mean in the animals i'm saying like if they want them to be daso and go in there in the cage and do little shows i'm sure they give them some stuff at times oh i'm sure it's not legal i'm sure all of it is legal but yeah yeah they're definitely doing that couple x. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, a couple of Tiger Zans. I just want to clarify that both of them have passed away and not one of them was from the Tiger attack. I did thought they both died.

Let's have a moment of silence for Sig Freak, please. Now one for Roy. Let's actually do this one instead of a laugh from Ohio, please. And how about that tiger not killing anybody? Thank you, Tiger. Thank you, Roy. Is the tiger still alive? The tiger said, I don't want to kill nobody.

Just fuck with them a little bit, though. You see what they do? They disappear. All is done. I thought they beheaded that thing after he attacked Siegfried. Really? Well, I've learned from this. You just can't be in a group because you'll die.

Siegfried and Roy are dead. Siskel and Eva are in debt. You just can't be in a group. You'll die. Siegfried and Roy are dead. Siskel and Eva are dead. You just can't be in a group. You can't be in a pair of people. Well, it seems like every group is going to die. Dude Perfect might be worried. I hate to break it to Dude Perfect and all of us that are listening right now. Everybody's dying.

Fuck. I thought we weren't going to have to do this again. Oh, yeah, I did. I thought so, too. Remember that? That was a little day or two I thought that. Everybody's dying, though. That's the crazy thing.

Everybody. Everybody's dead, dude. At some... Everybody. Do a moment of silence for everybody. Can I bring good news? I don't know if we have enough time. They were 81 and 75.

They had a good life. Well, I'm just... They could have had a better life. I guess, but literally, no matter what, going to be dead. Can I bring some sunshine to this rain?

I don't think that's necessarily rain, but it is something we need to think about. Yeah, every day. Not every morning. Not every day. Every day in the morning. Don't need to do that. Someone you love getting shot in the face. It will bring perspective to your life.

What are you talking about, Connor? O-A-J. O-A-J. Who is that from? Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, when we were talking about swearing earlier, I was going to say, if Gary Vee stops swearing, then I'll stop swearing. But he is the one that told me, if you think about one of your loved ones getting shot

in the face for five minutes every morning when you're in the shower, you're going to attack your fucking day better. Listen. And so I do. It has affected you. You know how long you've been saying this? Yeah. Hey, great job, Gary.

Yeah. Thank you, Gary. For helping Connor. Now, with that being said, I do not recommend that because that's quite negative. You know, I'm more of a, hey, let's go have a good time type thing. But I do believe the conversation of death should be one that is had. Because it's coming for fucking every group. Coming for every band. It's coming for everybody.

We just got to hope to live well until that day comes. What were you going to say? Tell them about Sunshine? Breaking news, Sunshine. It is another person's birthday today. Fucking KY Kyle Busch, and he just took the lead at Dover, the Monster Mile. Wow. That a bad guy.

Happy birthday, Kyle. Happy birthday, KY. Is the race happening right now? Yeah, it rained out yesterday. I view KY just not as a celebrity, so whenever we're talking about other birthdays, KY is a racing gold. The guy's never lost on his birthday. Wow.

I came into the world on fucking May 2nd. You think you're going to outrace me at goddamn Dover? Not a chance. No way. Never. Is KY running? Are there people there? Yep. KY's winning. Probably not as much as

it was the other week. It's a USFL game, dude. It's fucking Monday at 1 o'clock. Come on. What do you think this is? Hey, congrats and happy birthday, KY. Happy birthday, KY. I thought Tony was going to bring up the other big news out of Pittsburgh this morning that we saw before we went live. Yeah, breaking news.

The Pittsburgh Maulers have suffered the largest shutout in the history of USFL. Let's go to a break. What was the score? 27-zip. It's not too bad. Too much fucking chicken salad in that team. Okay?

They all come chicken shit. This guy's cutting promos afterwards about, you know, having to do the right thing and being disciplined. Let the guys have a fucking pizza. Okay? They never played a game do the right thing and being disciplined. Let the guys have a fucking pizza, okay? They never played a game in the 4-1-2. That team does not represent the city.

More sunshine out of Pittsburgh, though. What's that? Jason Kendall, 47 years old, might be coming back to baseball. What? Jason Kendall, my favorite baseball player of all time. You've heard me speak of him. He's in my Mount Rushmore of baseball players. Because as a child, when I would go down to PNC Park

and sit in the bleachers for four or five bucks and get a hot dog alongside of it, Jason Kendall would go into the batter's box with no fucking gloves and hit a bomb. That's what he would do. And then he'd sit right behind home plate and he would have authority over that entire park, not just that diamond.

No, no, no, no. Per sources via Jason Mackey. Jason Mackey. Is he an Irish guy? I don't know. It's not spelled like an Irish name at all. It's kind of an interesting take on it all. McKee, maybe.

No, I don't think. See, he was capitalized and moved over a little bit. Yeah, it seems different. Anyways, Jason Macchio of the Post-Gazette is reporting, Pirates and Jason Kendall have discussed a possible return.

Kendall was in Greensboro late last month to meet with people, including Director of Coaching and Player Development, John Bacher. Nothing final, still just talking

about finding a fit, but an intriguing name. This is what he was doing down in Greensboro. Yep. He saw a construction site, you know, and before the construction site, had this uh sign oh yeah the speed limit and the speed the people were going uh-huh it got real dark one night and jason kendall you know

got down in his stance catcher stance and he had his son throw a ball to him and then he threw it as if he was throwing at second base sure Sure. Went right past that sign. That thing said fucking 86 miles an hour. Holy shit. Jason Kendall's pop time is just as fast, and that ball is humming. And now that they got these balls that nobody else likes, that's exactly what Jason Kendall likes. The things that other people hate, this man enjoys.

That dude hasn't missed a protein meal in 47 fucking years. Jason Kendall coming back to be catcher for the Pittsburgh Pirates. Hell yeah. At the age of 47 is a dream come true. Welcome back to the baseball era. Baseball. Welcome home, Jason. But wait, does that tweet mention him coming back as a player?

Or is he trying to be a man? It's implied. It's open. It's implied. Who was his last major league appearance? 2010. 2010. 12 years ago.

Yeah. Yeah. He hasn't lost a step. They heard him hitting in the cage, and they said, God damn, he's still got it. Bring him in. I told you about the construction speed limit. 2010.

Are you serious? 12 years, dude. He's only getting better. He's 48 years old, dude. He's only getting better. 48 years old, dude. He's been in the lab for 12 years. Good luck, Jace. Jason Kendall's been walking around the house the last 12 years. I still got it.

I still fucking got it. I still got it. Now he's going to get a chance to prove it on team. It stinks. Bob Nutting's going to have to open a checkbook, though, to get fucking Jason Kendall paid. Jason Kendall's going to have to get paid. He's going to be Jackie Moon.

That dude better be coaching them boys. He better be playing alongside them boys. And he better be doing the fucking entertainment too. Zambelli fireworks every night if Jason Kendall's there. I also heard a rumor, and this is also good for the franchise, that Colbert is retiring from NFL GM, but he may actually go to Pirates GM to try to fix the franchise over there. Here we go.

That's why Jason Kendall's coming back. Wow. That's his first move. That's Colbert's first signing. His first move. Give me Jason Kendall. 10 years, $200 million. All right, let's get to a break.

Honestly, he might be coaching, but that'd be a bummer. No, he's playing. He's playing until notified otherwise. What, are they just going to put him at first base? He's still a Golden Glove. Well, and he's behind the plate. He's behind the plate. You can DH now nationally.

He's still good. Probably 25 homers. Put that photo of him back up, please. 75 ribbies. That's a current photo, right? Yeah. Gone. See any gloves in that picture?

No, I didn't. He's swinging a telephone pole. You hear me? Right on the sweet spot. Swings a 35-32. The biggest you can fucking have. Gone. God damn. Fucking beauty. That gloves is awesome. I biggest you can fucking have. Gone! God damn.

That gloves is awesome. I think we can have Jason Kendall on the show from what I've been told. Oh, please. I don't know. He's in the lab, right? Now is the time to reach out to Jason Kendall. Yeah. Look at how he holds that bat, dude. He chokes up a lot. He holds that thing like this. Fucking chaw the size of Kansas. Probably 0-2 count, AJ. Jesus.

Bro, he's throwing his hand. He's trying to punch the ball. Yeah. I'm excited to watch him play again after taking a decade and a half off of baseball. 12 years, okay. Still see the seams, pal. Yeah. We're back. About four minutes with some phone calls and a five-hour energy phone line. Man.

Baseball's back. Let's go. Congrats to Jason Kendall coming back. Congrats to baseball for Jason Kendall coming back. Congrats to us. We get to watch him play again. Hell yeah. Amen.

What if he's not playing? That'd be a real bummer. He's playing. He's playing. He'd be a real bummer. He's playing. He better be fucking signaling that at least out. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Third base coach. There better be some sort of Jason Kendall performance at PNC Park. There will be. He is playing. He might be doing a fire. What if he's just in charge of post-game celebrations? As long as he's sitting on top of the goddamn big board in center field, that'd be cool.

What if he is fucking the parrot? What if Jason Kendall's the new mascot? I was just going to say, could he be the pirate? He's going to be Sauerkraut Saul full time? No. Whoa, wait a minute. Those are two legends in their own lane. They do not need to be interacting

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So the announcement will come on Wednesday on who the winner and how many they were. And also all the other winners. We appreciate you so much. Joining us now is a man that guides one of 32 teams in the biggest league on earth was one of the youngest general managers in the history of the NFL has been around the game literally since he was a child the owner of the Indianapolis Colts, the leader of the Jim Irsay Band and Collection. Ladies and gentlemen, Jim Irsay.

What's up, man? Patrick, what's happening? All I can say is happy birthday, brother. Oh, thank you. The big 35. Hey, thank you, boss. I'm getting old, you know. I'm getting old now. I never thought I'd make The big 35. Hey, thank you, boss. I'm getting old, you know. I'm getting old now.

I never thought I'd make it to 35. Well, I tell you, you know, you're a young 35, and I'm still thinking that, you know, the call's going to come in. Between you and Andrew, we got bets here. It's just that you make more money than andrew now how could that happen he was supposed to he was supposed to be making 50 million a year and now look at you so congratulations what what what prosperity and then you've earned it all my friends so we're so proud of you and and just the horseshoe so proud of you to have someone who just has so many followers with your show and you guys entertain.

And, you know, it's just an incredible following. I couldn't be more proud of you, my friend. Well, thank you, boss. I appreciate you. I got some sound business advice from you the day I told you I was going to retire and you were sitting behind maybe the nicest desk I've ever seen smoking a vape and we you told stories for 90 minutes that enlightened me on so much and then the follow up

then the text message you have been awesome to me so I want to let you know you got your vape out you had some stuff in there laughter you said welcome to a young man's world and he said

Bally was going to be walking through the door I said what I didn't know what you were talking about I'm not going to let you off the hook on your birthday brother I'm sorry you know me I'm excited going to let you off the hook on your birthday, brother. I'm sorry. I appreciate it. You know me.

I just, you know, I'm excited about your birthday, and I know you're a gamer. You're a world wrestler. I mean, a great one now, and you're still in great shape. So, you know, just to challenge you, Mr. McAfee, I just have a special challenge, and it's always good because it's your 35th birthday and it's for charity. Okay. So during the halftime of a Colts game this year.

Oh, Jesus. You have to kick a 35-yard field goal. No problem. And then complete a 35-yard touchdown pass to Reggie Wayne in the end zone. He's coaching. And if you can complete this duo event, we have a million dollars for Kick the Stigma charity, a million dollars for IU Cancer, and a million dollars for the charity of your choice. But no failings out there, young men.

The crowd will be there. The pressure will be there. You miss, you know, they'll be talking Vanderjagt, Vanderjagt. You miss that. That ghost of that kick will be in your mind. We'll play it right before you have your kick. And then Reggie will be in the end zone, and you have to, you know, have the fake punt and complete that thing for a 35-yard touchdown pass.

Now, that's not easy under pressure with a, you know, one-time try. But this will be – Reggie's ready. I already talked to him. He's in. So now we'll just pick what halftime will work for your schedule, and we're going to do this if you accept. Yes, I accept. We're going to do it.

Yes. All right. Yeah, yeah. This is it. Pagano accepted those free throws also, and he didn't do very well. I'll be honored to do that. I appreciate that. Three million dollars on the line. I mean, that's a big time. I know.

But the pressure's on you. You let these charities down. How can you live with this? And then you may have to pocket it. You may have to dig deep and say, I'm in great regret. I've messed up. I've missed. And now I have to pocket it. Yeah, I know. You may have to dig deep and say, I'm in great regret. I've messed up.

I've missed. And now I have to step up. Oh, that'd be awesome. So the pressure's going to be on you. All right. I'm already getting excited about it. Now, listen, I live a pretty fun life right now. You know, happy-go-lucky.

The thought of a $3 million kick in a throw. Now, Reggie's got a big catch rating. Yeah. Reggie's got a big catch rating. That's right. That's no problem. If you can't depend on Reggie to catch a big catch rating. Yeah. Reggie's got a big catch rating. That's right. That's no problem. If you can't depend on Reggie to catch one, you're in trouble. Yeah, exactly.

I'll give you the best. You know that. All right. Hey, I appreciate it. That's awesome. All right, Patrick. It'll be a lot of fun for the fans, and we'll have the charities there. It'll be a lot of fun doing it, and you do those things so well.

And, you know, and plus plus if the game wasn't already sold out they'll be scalping tickets just to see you and you know you bring in a big house so you know we're gonna have to have expanded seating for this game after the halftime performance you're the best i appreciate you you're the man and once again this leads me to what i said earlier now the kicking the stigma and what you're doing with that, we definitely want to dive into and talk about because what your family's getting behind is massive. But being a billionaire, being an owner, we've all talked about that is something, your position is something that everybody desires and is dreaming of. And I think we're learning about that even more now with a couple of teams going

up for sale. at what point did you realize okay like I'm an NFL owner but I'm allowed to be a human as well you know you play music you collect things that you enjoy you tell stories I see you when you're out and about you literally hand out hundreds to everybody you feel like you're almost obligated to give back to people at what point have you always been that way did something happen what changed you to kind of live your life the way you do well you know i i just you know growing up in chicago with you know parents from the depression era and world war ii you know i worked and i worked you know when it was summertime and i was going to play football that's i mean in the summer my dad's like you're

going to work construction so i I mean, I was like downtown Chicago, doing demolition work, you know, on these buildings with a fake union card, and a half an hour lunch break, and you know, getting on the L trade at 5am. And, and, you know, just like in training camp, when I started, you know, you had to be there at 6 a.m. and you worked hard and you did all that. And you kind of come from that, thankfully, that work ethic. So it's something that to me, you know, is very, I guess, in other words, first, you know, it was just a normal life, you know, and I've had, you know, a bloated visa bill, you know, and house payments sitting there and stuff. So it kind of happened quickly because my dad never really, you know,

I mean, it was funny at the time when he got sick and passed away, you know, we were fighting over a raise and, you know, I'm not giving you a raise, you know, just going through that stuff. So it was it was kind of like you grow up a certain way. You know, my grandparents were were immigrants. They came from Poland, Hungary through Ellis Island. And, you know, my grandmother was a poor inner city maid. So I mean, so those things stick with you. And then when you are blessed enough to come into that position, you know, your origin more, you know, I mean, like John Lennon says, a working class hero is something to be, you know.

And, you know, I'm always more tied to that, you know. I mean, it's just like Springsteen and his upbringing in New Jersey and his dad worked at the factory and stuff. I mean, you get integrated as Springsteen and his upbringing in New Jersey. His dad worked at the factory and stuff. I mean, you get integrated as a young person, you know, and, you know, that's just the way you don't grow up, you know, really. I mean, I didn't grow up thinking, you know, oh, I'll be involved in football and have my chance, you know, to do eventually everything I could to, you know, run a football team and that sort of thing unencumbered. And that was always my goal. I think, you know how it is, what you did, you did because you loved. I mean, you, as a kid, you picked up a football, you played, you didn't think, oh, someday, you know, I'm going to sign a contract for $100 million after I retire.

You know, you just did it because you love playing. And I was the same way. I love football, and I was just drawn towards it. And we were just blessed to be in an industry like NFL football that became so popular. an industry like NFL football that became so popular. And I think really none of the older owners that bought their teams for like, you know, Art Rooney Sr. came back from the racetrack in 1932 with $2,500 winnings and bought the Steelers. You know, the old AFL guys put up $25,000.

And, you know, the original guys put up, I used for $100. You know, George House, who was at my wedding, was one of the guys in that Humpmobile showroom in 1920. And, you know, no one went into it thinking, oh, you know, we're going to be billionaires. We're going to be like Rockefeller or whatever. I mean, that wasn't even in the thought process. You know, we loved football. Back then, they got on trains. They barely made payroll.

I mean, the Packers are called the Packers because they were running out of money, and they took $500 from a packing company. A lot of people said, why the Packers? Where does that name come from when you really think about it but they took 500 because you know that's what they needed to keep you know their business running back in the 1920s you know so it's like you know i come from that origin you know i i you know knew paul brown and i knew Argooney Sr. and George Alice was at my wedding. And so those, you know, that's kind of my origin. So this territory isn't, you know, really,

I don't really feel like I'm part of it. You know, there's no blue blood in these veins, put it that way. Go ahead, AJ. Mr. Ursa, what's your favorite thing about being an NFL owner and have you ever let yourself think about what your life would look like if you weren't the owner of the Colts you know I think you know the favorite

thing is just to bring joy to people you know I think that you know this life's a tough journey and you know there's a lot of tough things we all go through, and human suffering, for the lack of a better word. And when we come to a stadium, and you're in that stadium,

and it's Patriots versus Colts for the championship game, or it's Buffalo versus Kansas City for the division championship game, a game like last year in the division. The magic, the unity, you know, what it brings to a community, how it brings joy to people, there's nothing like it. I mean, I can't find it anywhere. And so it's just such a privilege. You know, you want to bring greatness.

You want to bring, you know, that possibility of saying, okay, with Matt Ryan this year, with the team to bring, you know, that possibility of saying, okay, with Matt Ryan this year, with the team we had, you know, hey, maybe we can be down in Arizona in February. You know, and the fans, you know, everyone gets behind you. And it's, it's great because, and plus, I think affecting the community, you know, my big thing is the horseshoe is seriously involved in changing the world and making it a better place. Alleviating suffering, you know, helping people and changing things and mostly inspiring because, you know, one teaspoon of inspiration can change everything. You know, one teaspoon of inspiration can change everything. You know, in this world, we all know God knows what's going on. And, you know, with Russia and everything right now and all the different things we see going through COVID,

you know, you just really want to be there to change the world. And we, you know, are the game we play. I mean, you played it, so you know. I mean, it's, you know, it's And we, you know, are the game we play. I mean, you played it, so you know. I mean, it's, you know, it's so special, you know. And so that's the biggest thing, I think. And I always kind of think of myself as a steward, you know. It's a big responsibility because I, you know, look, you know, at the horseshoe and I come before it and the expectations are,

hey, it's in your hands the buck stops there your responsibility you know is not only to win but win the right way and change the world and and have people that that love to have the horseshoe on their jackets or hats or be proud about that so so um but I, you know, I love the responsibility of meeting up with that challenge and, you know, certainly, you know, the competitive fire that you get from winning, you know, because, you know, I love to win and I know you're a defensive player and I love to kick ass on defense. I was just talking to Gus Bradley about it and He said, well, Frank told me about it.

Now I understand. It's like, you know, you're damn right. You know, let's go out and play some physical football. And so it's just, it's such a thrill. You know, I don't feel like I even have a job. I mean, to be able to do this for a living, and I know we all feel that way. You look in the draft room and you see the scouts

and you see the people that are working. You know, they're so thrilled to be in the National Football League and have a chance. And you guys that played the game, you know, guys like us in college that, you know, just weren't any good to get past SMU level. You know, I mean, I had teammates like Byron Hunt, that just weren't any good to get past SMU level. I had teammates like Byron Hunt, who was the opposite side of Lawrence Taylor with the Giants.

And it's just such a thrill to see you guys and to see this new draft class come in. I mean, I talk to these guys on the phone, and I mean, it is just, you know, their lives are transforming right before them. And, you know, it is just, you know, their lives are transforming right before them. And, you know, it's like, how does it feel to be drafted in the National Football League? You know, my God. You know, because I know what it's like. I mean, I went to SMU intentionally so NFL would scout it, where I'd have teammates that would be guys that would go into the NFL.

Because I really, you know, wanted to really wanted to experience what that was like. It's incredible. It's just incredible and a blessing to be part of it. You're one of the decision makers on dreams coming true. I was one of them, pick 222, 13 years ago or whatever the case. The whole thing you said said a teaspoon of inspiration can really do wonders or whatever hope is really all anybody's looking for in the nfl has provided that that for so many people for so many generations you should be very fucking proud that you're one

of the old school guys let's move let's move along you said something in that answer though that was awesome you know you said hey with, with Matt Ryan under center in this roster, you know, why not? And you have been an owner that has been very open. Like, hey, we're here to win. I don't know what every other ownership group is talking about. We are here to win. I'm going to build a new facility.

I'll give you everything you possibly could need. Let's win here, which is, I think, why people love playing for the shoe. Why did you think there needed to be a quarterback change from Carson? There's been a lot of shit that has been said publicly about how you feel about it all. And why did you think Matt Ryan was the right guy? And how involved with both of those decisions were you? Well, you know, it's so important, and you guys know, you know,

playing in the NFL and those those things about the quarterback position that that you know the interesting thing is you can't just you know get peyton manning or john elway put your feet up and say well the work's over you know uh we'll just win multiple superbowls i mean peyton in 2001 we lost six games he was completely healthy at 24 years old. And Edgerton had got hurt in the roster. It got diminished. And we weren't quite ready yet. And even though we had Peyton Manning, it wasn't enough.

But on the other hand, if you have everything else in place, that is the guy. We know more than ever today the rules have changed, the way we changed the way we throw the ball just everything you have to have that guy i mean you know and if you want to get to where we want to get to and like they say you know i talk about winning three straight super bowls and people say oh that's you know look it's been said if, you know, aren't big enough to fail at getting, then they're not big enough. I mean, you know, you go out and you really dream about, you know, what you really want to do on the highest level. And I think bringing in Matt was clearly an essential thing for us because we needed consistency we needed leadership

we needed those sort of things that we were just you know missing in the end and believe me Carson did his best to bring it I mean he worked so hard he came in you know just trying to bring everything he I mean, he worked so hard. He came in, you know, just trying to bring everything he could bring, you know.

And so I give him credit for that. I mean, it's not that it wasn't his lack of trying or something that didn't get us there, but it just wasn't the right mix for us or him. And, you know, Matt is such a perfect mix here and it really is exciting like I said you look in the eyes of you know Frank Riker or Chris Ballard and people in the organization that they just turn into a big smile I just go you know I haven't really experienced this since Peyton's days having a guy like this I mean I, this is a Navy SEAL.

This is an astronaut who's going to Mars. You know, this is the right stuff guy. Special. I mean, he's the type of guy if you're landing on an aircraft carrier, you want him being the pilot. You know, I mean, special guys.

And there's not a lot of guys around that can do it. And there's not a lot of guys around that can do it, and there's not a lot of guys around, you know, who want to do it because it's not easy being that guy. I mean, everything's on you. I mean, you know, you walk through Indianapolis this year, and everyone's just staring at Matt Ryan's arm. It's like, that's our future.

Don't touch that arm, you know. Something happens to that right arm, we're done. You know, and it's just, you know, it's incredible, you know, because, you know, he brings something at this point at 36 years old and all he's done and the person he is, it was just a perfect fit for us. And sometimes we didn't know that was happening. I talked to Chris about that and Franklin, you know, that night, you know, after Jacksonville in the office and going forward, it's like, we can't.

were you pissed, Jim? Jim, were you pissed? They were dressed like clowns in the stands. They were dressed like clowns, Jim. They were dressed like clowns down there,

Jim. Well, I, I, I can't say I have the words to say what I was you know it just you know just just thank God I'm a law-abiding citizen and it wasn't medieval times you know just just you know it was beyond you know pissed and bewilderment.

I, you know, honestly, I don't think I'd ever. I mean, I've experienced some losses in the last half century, you know, some really tough losses. But I don't I've never been through anything like that. Really, I've never. I mean, you know, sure, we're all set up and we lose at home to Pittsburgh or San Diego. we're all set up and we lose at home to Pittsburgh or San Diego and Peyton's here when we're winning 13, 14 games or something after a bye week and everything. I mean, that's super tough. And, you know, losing to New Orleans in the Super Bowl,

obviously those are always, you just never get over that. But this was different. I had never experienced anything like this. I mean, because, again, you have to remember the game wasn't even close. I mean, we weren't even competitive. And to make it even seem worse, they won and still got the first pick. You know, I mean, it's just like, how do you even? There's no logic.

It's like, you know, two and two equals seven. I mean, it's just like, how do you even, there's no logic. It's like, you know, two and two equals seven. I mean, it's like, what? I mean, I thought I'd seen everything. I thought, I mean, you knew there was a ghost in the machine. I mean, that's not a question of being a little bit, you know, well, we were a little, I don't know why we're a little flat today. Flat? Flat?

I mean, that is not flat. I don't have a word for what it is. But, you know, flat doesn't do it. You know, it really was something. Honestly, it was something. I mean, after the Raider game, it was so hard because you're eightpoint favorites at home and you wanted, that's where you got to get it. You really want to clinch that there. But everyone is just figuring, well, you know, thank God, you know,

we get to go to Jacksonville, you know. And again, it wasn't even competitive. I mean, do you understand what I'm saying? I wish I was in there. Hey, Jim, I do know what you're saying because I was having the same exact thoughts that you were probably having. You just so happen to be the owner. And I think the fact that you and most of the fans share the same emotions is why the Indianapolis Colts have been good for so long. Because you won't sit back and let that type of shit just become the norm, which is great news.

I mean, you know, before the half-in, it's like, call the airplane. We're going home. I mean, you know, I mean, you're just going, I mean, everyone, you know, is trying to be optimistic. It's like, get away from me. I, you know, don't, I see reality. I mean, this ship is

sailed. I mean, it was just something of the likes I've never seen. Alright, let's move on. Hey, let's move on. We're going to move on. We got Matt Ryan now, Navy SEAL astronaut. Let's go. That was a great comparison, by the way, that he just is a separator

as opposed to just somebody in the NFL. I want to ask you about the league because not a lot of people get a chance to really experience the league like you did. Obviously, from the jocks and socks all the way through GM and being hands-on day-to-day, now your ownership. We hear about this one-per-club meeting that happens at the owners' meetings. Is that when everything's actually handled?

Is that when all the big-time decisions are made? Or how is the process of decision-making in the NFL, you think? Because so many billions of dollars are on the line, every single thought process that happens for you guys. How important is that one per club meeting? And how often are you guys in contact with each other ownership wise? Well, you know, it's a great question, actually. And it's a great question more than ever in these times, you know, because, in these times, you know, because, you know, I'm a big advocate on where we're at with that.

And, you know, yes, you know, we've started this one per club meeting. We're not only one per club, but principal owner only. And if the principal owner is not there, the club cannot be represented. And number two is, you know, I, you i you know you see we have a lot of owners that are new owners um that have been in the league for not too long we we have you know some owners that you know are are taking over for you know their family like in detroit or something or tennessee you know that you know haven't been owners and now are becoming owners. So, you know, and then you have some some owners that are that are are really, you know, dominant hands on, you know, up involved in everything. And and, you know, my my position is and it kind of, know happens at these meetings I'm like you know hey get up and

ask questions get involved you know you don't have to be shy about asking any and every question this is your league at the league office they work for you you know everyone at the league office works for you and this is your league and know what's going on i mean and don't be afraid to ask because you know there's big issues that come up and and you know and people say well god i i didn't really even know that i mean i just, and it's like, you know, but they don't even get up and ask sometimes. It's unbelievable, you know. And again, it comes from this aspect of like,

well, maybe I don't want to look like I don't know or I don't want to, you know, maybe I shouldn't, but really it's trying to initiate more of the older days when, you know, there was 15 teams only and only the owners met. And George Hallis was there. And, you know, Tim Merritt was there. And the, you know, real guys that founded this league. And they got involved to make decisions.

And, you know, everyone, because committees committees are great but you get these pockets that start controlling things and um you know i'm not a big believer that if you're not on the right committee you're out of the loop and you can be if you know and we're trying to initiate more of that now um and get owners involved i mean only owners only principal owners and really talk about that path because it's a great question because it's really something that's been going on that's been on my heart a lot and it's been you know kind of an you know I've been an advocate more of you know if you don't know ask talk you, you can say anything

in these meetings to each other. I mean, these are your partners, be direct and say what you want to ask. I mean, it's unbelievable. Sometimes people just sit back and they don't. I mean, so it's a great question. These only owners meetings have kind of started more because, you know, thankfully they've been requested by some to just get more informed than they have been. Is this meeting one of the places where you could stand up and say, or another owner could say, hey, Jimmy Haslam, you guaranteeing 230 mil to Deshaun Watson really puts everybody else kind of in a tough spot and we're trying to acquire quarterbacks? Yeah, I mean, I don't think anyone would, you know, direct, you know, a direct, you know,

I mean, you have to be careful with, you know, with antitrust. I mean, you can express your opinion, but, can't control, you know, you can't have side agreements with owners like, hey, you know, we promise right in your blood here, no guaranteed contracts. I mean, you know, you can't drift into those antitrust collusion laws, but you can. I mean, you absolutely can, can you know talk like a man or woman directly like you talk to your friends I mean real talk that not bullshit I mean real talk say what you want to say look I mean don't be afraid to say it you know I've done it many a time there's a guy gonna buy the

Redskins and he's in the room And everyone's worried because he sues his partners. He's his M.O. That's his history. He sues his partners. And they're worried about the guy. So we have the meeting. And I just get up in front of all the owners. And on record, I say, look, if you don't get the Redskins, do you promise not to sue the league?

Quiet. And it's a yes or no answer only. Oh, well, oh, mm-hmm. You know, the meeting breaks down. And it's a yes or no answer only. Oh, well, oh, you know, and then, you know, the meeting breaks down, the whole thing breaks down, and, you know, afterwards, a few owners are like, oh, Jim, I can't believe you asked him that. I said, well, why wouldn't I ask him that?

I mean, you know, was he going to take a machine gun out and kill me in public or something? I mean, you know, I don't understand why would you pussyfoot around? I mean, I'm from Chicago, you know, I don't understand why would you pussyfoot around, I mean, I'm from Chicago, you know, we talk direct there, man, I mean, it's like, hey, you got a problem, I'm right here, you know, I mean, you want to talk about it, please do, because, you know, that's when relationships are strengthened, you know, and yeah, there's

some frisky things that happen. You know, we keep it in the room though. It's really one of those things where, you know, we don't like it to get out, you know, to the media, you know, Hey, you guys always seem to be on the same page. It's one of the most impressive businesses that's ever been run, especially because it has become the biggest league on earth. You guys always seem to be on the same page regardless of anything. So anytime there is a little bit of a disagreement among owners, for us who have to cover the sport on a day-to-day basis, we're like, whoa, this is not normal.

This must be something. You guys always seem to be together. With the future of the NFL. You know how it is? It's the same way when you were a teammate. You know, you got your teammates back. You know, you may not necessarily agree totally what that teammate's doing, but you're not going to go out publicly and, you know, slay him.

You know, you're going to have his back. I mean, you know, it's that unity, and you've got to do it in private, in person, sometimes directly to him or her. Just you go up and say hey you know and this you know this is how I feel you know what are you doing you know I want to know you know why did you do this or um I mean there's there's plenty of things that happen that way and I think it's really important um you know as the direction of the league you know i'm always you know looking at um you know where we are now but where we'll be 10 20 years from now hey hey jim let's get to that

right now there's a lot of money coming into the league jim i mean you're talking about amazon's already in here they got the they're going not enough pat no jim jim You know, look at our brand. You know, Amazon grosses $400 billion a year. We gross $22 billion a year. I mean, you know, not enough. I mean, you know, we have to get more expansive and understand that, yes, we always have to take care of the game. I mean, the old owners always talked about that. Don't grab every dollar you can. Protect the game because you lose the game.

The game is what matters the most, period, because the game is what's great. And with that game comes so much interest and prosperity. But I don't want ticket brokers taking my money. Fantasy football. I mean, you know, I mean, people monetize your money. interest in prosperity but I don't want ticket brokers taking my money fantasy football foot I mean you know I mean people monetize your money I mean that that's something you know that that is is you know too much of that has gotten out and we can also do a lot more you know expanding I mean look at you know Amazon is going to the moon okay I mean you know must you know, expanding. I mean, look at, you know, Amazon's going to the moon, okay?

I mean, you know, Musk, you know, and Bezos, they're interested in Mars. I mean, you know, that's not what they do do, but they're smart enough to know, hey, space is going to be big bucks, and I'm on it. You know, that's my company. You know, but to be able to go to Mars,

for instance, privately, which you can't totally privately do, but to be able to go to Mars, for instance, privately, which you can't totally privately do, but to be involved in space, you know, you have to set up a whole different section of your corporation. And it takes massive overseeing, you know, of really smart people, you know, because it's fine to have dreams and great, you know, visions on how you can expand, it's fine to have dreams and great you know visions on on how you can expand but it's how you execute it and how you monitor it and and who are the people you're putting your trust in because you can't do things you don't know about but you can hire people smarter than you to do them and make sure they're on your side so we have to look differently going forward as a league at what we're doing.

Because then we're starting to. But we can do a lot of things. You think Europe is. Hey, Jim, is Europe your Mars, you think? You think Europe is the next big one for the NFL? How do you think expansion goes? Well, I'd like to play on the moon, and we will someday, trust me. But I don't think I'll be alive for it.

I would like to kick the ball there. I don't know if it's going to be 2162 or when it will be, but there will be a dome on the moon. There will be a game there. It will be great. There won't be any beaches or anything, but there will be holographs. We'll make it look like Dubai. Hey, this was just a desert, now look at it, you know, anything's possible, but, you know, I think that, you know, with expansion, there's some exciting possibilities, we should be in London,

you know, I, you know, I really feel like that it's very simple. You have to have an owner with enough means, and he has a base in London, a base in America, and the league helps with the schedule. You know, it's a shame. I mean, the Concords were doing great. You figured, well, they're going to be like, you know,

DC-10, 747-sized Concords by now, and instead they just shut the whole thing down, you know. And you're like, you know, well, God, whatever happened to the Concord? I mean, we're going, you know, from New York to London in three hours, and now it's like no more Concords. I mean, so progress is interesting. You know, you want it to happen faster.

You know, it's just like I'm frustrated with flying cars because I'm obsessed with that i mean i want a flying car me too what i got is my phone instead it's like well the future is on your phone really right now it's not like literally in front of you you can't get into a flying car but you know your phone has it all it's like i don't want this phone i'm not going to have this phone 14 hours a day like you young people do no thank you like i'm not from that generation but you know give me a flying car and honestly when we shut down the mars missions you know we were supposed to be going in 2024 and we shut it down but a lot of people don't realize is you know from here to the moon

is 208 000 miles roughly you know 200 so you can think about that well in this country you know a long road trip could be 4 000 miles and you know how far it is to australia you know so 200 000 miles you know that you think about that, you know, that's far, but, but like Mars, think about this is 250 million miles, 250 million miles. And so, you know, that's a little different thing because, you know, when you go, you know, it takes about anywhere from, you know, nine to 11 months to get there. Are you going to fucking Mars? Jim, are you going to Mars?

It sounds like you're going to Mars. I wish I was. You know, maybe you have. I think you have a chance to do a show from there when you're 80, Patrick. You know, I don't think it'll be soon enough for me but but um you know i i love the fact that um you know where the future may go and and you know but i i think so much about our game and make sure that our game you know is protected as we go forward because there's been a lot of changes in it we've've been through some difficult times with trying to deal with the changes

and deal with concussions and deal with the physicality of it by keeping it the same way. And I've always been, I don't really agree with it. I mean, look, I played at SMU for free. And yeah, I got beat up in those things, but I wouldn't change it. It's like mountain climbers. You fall sometimes.

That's the thrill of the climb. Don't do it. Are you stupid? If you don't want someone 300 pounds, running 4.6 to knock the hell out of you, then don't play football. You don't have to. Did anyone chain you in handcuffs and

say, you must play this game? I mean, no. I mean, you do it because you choose to. And we always did it because we chose to. We did it because we love playing. I never experienced professional football and I always envied you guys

that did because it was so remarkable to be that good to get to that level. I think there's an expected level of danger that comes with football, but as more and more data and analytics come out, I assume you guys will continue to adjust the game so the league will be in good hands for when we get to Mars in 50 years or so. Or maybe Jim Irsay buys the Concord Plane Company back and we're able to get to London quicker for a team in London.

Expansion should be beautiful. I can't thank you enough for joining us. I would like to hit on the kicking the stigma thing, though, because what you have done with your family to let people know, like, hey, mental health affects us all, the stigma that it's a negative thing should be no more. It should just be naturally understood that people go through stuff and some are going through more than others kicking the stigma has been a beautiful thing that you've really wrapped your entire being around i guess there's a kurt

cobain auction coming up that uh you're going to get involved yeah they're going to donate five percent you know uh julian's auction house we know julian Julian, and that's great that the family and the auction house have set this up for a 5% donation. So, you know, certainly he shocked the world when this Australian billionaire bought his unplugged guitar from MTV for $6 million. I mean, broke every record, every record I had. You know what, David gilmore's pink floyd guitar four million so um who knows what this is going to go for but it's going to be for a great cause and you're right pat you know look at so many exciting things going on in this world like football and like watching your show and having a good time and you know when you when

you have mental illnesses that gets all taken away from you. You know, you're alone, you're scared, you know, you're miserable, you don't want to stay on this planet. And we're out to reach those people because it doesn't have to be that way. And we're also out to reach to change the insurance industry that just won't, you know, allow insurance to pay for a lot of mental health things, which, you know, destroys families and, you know, allow insurance to pay for a lot of mental health things, which, you know, destroys families and, you know,

makes mothers get second mortgages on their house, you know, to save their daughter's life who's, you know, trying to get special health or eating disorder. You know, it's terrible. But, I mean, in this country that goes on and, you know, so there's a lot of work to be done there. We appreciate you mentioning it. And you get a chance to kick the stigma by making your field work. All right, all right, so there's a lot of work to be done there. We appreciate you mentioning it. And you get a chance to kick the stigma by making your field work. All right, all right, all right.

You can help us. So don't miss. Hey, it'll be an honor, just like it is to chat with you, and it was to work for you. You're an absolute legend, and I appreciate your time, Jim. I can't wait to talk to you again. All right, buddy. Well, you know, we're peers now, so, you know, you can borrow my plane and I'll borrow your plane.

And ours are in the shop. Okay. Hey, that'll be perfect. I appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. All right. I love you guys. Love the show. Thanks for having me.

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