The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 655 - Mike Rupp, Dana White, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 3, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about DeAndre Hopkins getting suspended for 6 games this upcoming season due to a failed drug test, how players keep up with what supplements are banned and what can be taken, the NFL's drug testing policies,  John Lynch commenting that Deebo probably isn't going to be traded, the Titans' offer for AJ Brown being nowhere close to what Philadelphia could offer, and everything else going on in the NFL. Joining the progrum to chat about the Stanley Cup playoffs currently going on in the NHL is Stanley Cup Champion, 14 year NHL veteran, NHL Network analyst, co-host of That's Hockey Talk, and friend of the show, Mike Rupp (1:05:55-1:33:37). Later, President of the UFC and friend of the progrum, Dana White joins the show to chat about season 30 of the Ultimate Fighter premiering, his thoughts on this weekend's massive UFC 274 card featuring a title fight with Charles Oliveira and Justin Gaethje, and the possibility of Ngannou and Tyson Fury and his thoughts on the crossover boxing matches (1:33:39-1:42:55). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is Tuesday, May 3rd, 2022, and this sports show shall begin now. Can't thank you enough for joining us here at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. I'd like to make a personal statement before we get into all the sports. I can't thank you all enough for the love that I got to feel yesterday. I am actually a bit overwhelmed by it all. I have no idea how I'm supposed to respond to everybody and say thank you to everybody. Numerous text messages, a lot of tweets,

so many comments on the Instagram. People have reached out in the YouTube comments. I appreciate the hell out of you so much. I'm lucky to be on this earth at the same time as all of you, and thank you'm lucky to be on this earth at the same time as all of you. And thank you for being so damn kind to me. Yesterday was very, very cool. My wife and I hung out at the house, had a pretty good night, a great night, actually, not just a pretty good night, a great night. It was taking it all in was absurd. And I'm very, very grateful and thankful.

I'm 35 now. I'm an old fucking man. and I can't thank you all enough. And maybe it's because I am getting to a sentimental chapter of my life where I'm starting to feel actual feelings, which is weird. I don't love it. You know, I saw Kurt Warner's movie. It made me feel stuff. I didn't really enjoy that either, but maybe it's just because I'm getting older now. And I thought about this yesterday. I always assumed I was going to die young and I just became okay with it. It was almost like I was living for a long time like hoping I'd die young almost and now I never want to die

so it's like a very interesting transition in the whole brain and life experience and I think it's mostly because all of you are so nice to me so thank you so much, thank you to all the boys for all the love and the celebrating thank you to my wife for setting up everything, you're the best thank you to everybody.

I love you all. Now, with that being said, DeAndre Hopkins is out six games. Oh, no, Luke. Oh, no. Did not expect this to come at all. There's other news around the NFL, and we'll cover all of it. The Toxic Table is here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner. One half of the Hammer.

Dad. Cowboys. Tone Diggs is here. Tone, shout out to you, pal. Shout out to you, pal. Can't wait to dive into a couple of T4s today because the hammer, down. Cowboys, Tone Diggs is here. Tone, shout out to you, pal. Shout out to you, pal. Can't wait to dive into a couple T4s today because the basketball is happening, the NHL playoffs are happening,

and tonight the Penguins begin their run to the next Lord Stanley Cup against the New York Rangers. We currently have a super boost on FanDuel Sportsbook for both the bread man, Artemi of the Rangers, and Sidney Crosby to record a point tonight. It's the NHL playoffs.

It's playoff hockey. The two best players on either team are going to fucking produce. That's just how hockey goes. That's boosted to plus 200. Let's go ahead and make some chat on this thing. Here we go, boys. Here we go.

If you're a Rangers fan, congrats, you're in the playoffs again. Now, you have been quite a thorn in our side, the Pittsburgh Penguins, but when was the last time you guys won a cup, right? Yeah. So, then let's just kind of move on the conversation. Good call. We put together a super boost to hopefully get both teams to come in here

and get a little bit more interest in the rest of the world to maybe make some money off it. Sidney Crosby is going to record a point. Yeah. Always. Yeah. Now, will that sack bread man? I don't know.

I have no idea. I was told this guy is good. I don't know. We'll fucking find out tonight. I hope so. I'm betting on my guy to hold up his end of the bargain. I assume Rangers fans are betting on their guy to hold up their end of the bargain. And all of us are getting plus 200 odds, which either team is like, for instance,

Penguins fans for sydney crosby to record a point lock done deal rangers fans for the bread man to record a point they're lock so for all of us we should feel pretty confident in both of this i think i'm pretty pumped up about it let's get into it we'll talk to mike rup in the second hour but uh dana white will join us in the third hour aj hawk here we go in the next hour we gotta talk about this nukeness yeah huge hey this is massive this is a big ordeal this probably forced the hollywood brawn trade a lot more than anybody else could even imagine and that's still wild because it didn't seem like baltimore took advantage of the cardinals as much as they potentially could have if they knew that they were in this type of position. Ian Rappaport

reported yesterday that the Arizona Cardinals will lose wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins for the first six games of the NFL season after a PED suspension. Now let's remember that he will be able to attend training camp and OTAs and I even I think even play in preseason games if he wants to. Once the regular season starts, though, he will not be allowed in the building until at least week seven. He has dropped his appeal on this entire thing, so this is set and locked and loaded for Nuke.

Nuke had a response. He said that he has never tested positive for any performance-enhancing drugs in his 10-year NFL career. To learn that his November test came back with trace elements of a banned substance, he was confused and shocked. I am very mindful of what I put in my body

and have always taken a holistic approach, so I am working with my team to investigate how this could have happened. But even as careful as I have been, clearly I wasn't careful enough. For that, I apologize to Cardinals fans, my teammates, and the entire cardinals organization i never want to let my team down i fully intend to get to the bottom of this as soon as i have

more information i will share it deandre hopkins via deandre hopkins instagram so he says he takes a holistic approach maybe it was the punch karma oh no no i have no idea what it could have been, but I do know that this is a very fickle situation because the players in the NFL that do not take any performance enhancing drugs have a view on the guys that do take performance enhancing drugs as, oh, those guys are certainly cheating. Those guys have the ability to recover quicker. Those guys have the ability to not get sore. Those guys' attention and focus levels are higher than mine will ever be without it. So there is a very much negative attitude on performance enhancing drugs in the NFL world, okay? I don't know if people just expect

that a lot of people are on a bunch of PEDs and shit like that. I don't think that's an accurate assessment at all, at least from my time in the NFL. What I do know though, is that a lot of guys will take a lot of supplements to try to make up for either energy lacking or focus or anything like that. And they try to read all the ingredients that are on all the supplements, some supplements, you know, even a friend will get a marketing deal with and they'll bring it in and it'll be for the entire locker room. You got all these supplements. And if you read through what are allegedly in the supplements, they will say, hey, everything in here is good for you guys in the NFL testing thing.

But the thing about the supplement business you see is it's not FDA regulated. So people can just literally fucking lie about what are in supplements. So guys will take these supplements and we've all heard of all the different ones for pre-workout and everything like that. And literally they might be taking something that they had no clue and even investigated and looked into. It might have even called the fucking operation and say, hey, this says there's none of this in there. Is there any of this in there? And they say, no, there isn't any in there because it doesn't have to be regulated. Doesn't have to be investigated. Doesn't have to get approved. They can just say what's in there and it not have of this in there is there any of this in there and they say no there isn't any in there because it doesn't have to be regulated doesn't have to be investigated doesn't have to

get approved they can just say what's in there and it not have to be in there so guys since the beginning of drug testing have been failing tests when they legitimately do not believe they're taking anything and for a long time it was always like oh that guy's fucking lying that guy's lying that guy's lying and it's like no the guy it's like, no, the guy's not lying. It maybe was the supplement that he was taking was literally lying right to his face on the bottle. And if you're somebody who isn't the most educated human of all time, like you have to learn this, you would just assume that the GNC is not going to lie to you. You would assume that the bottle that is a company that is making millions and millions of dollars isn't going to lie to you. But there's a chance that their operation, their warehouse, the way they go about filling in their supplements into the pills or whatever,

gets tainted by another supplement that they're making at the same exact warehouse or facility that's being packaged into another bottle and another branding. So there's like a chance that guys have failed tests over the NFL since the beginning of the NFL that they had no clue that they were going to fail for, had no intentions of failing for, and actually hate what happened. That has been happening, I think, since the beginning because of the way the FDA views the supplement companies. With that being said, there are some dudes that just are trying. There are some dudes that are just trying to beat the game i mean baseball had a big deal with it and i know the uh uh what's that documentary uh screwball screwball documents the entire thing they're trying to beat the fucking testing system they are trying there we need our testosterone to

boost at this particular time but go down after this particular time because they could get drug tested at this time and in this month we need this to happen and we need to have our levels at this so they were gaming the testing like that's insane and i think at baseball that was a much higher level then icarus the documentary um about lance armstrong that ended up becoming a documentary about the russians cheating the olympic testing thing with the mad scientist actually getting caught up in this documentary the way they're able to construct things that are getting injected into their bodies and then have the ability to drop off for a test and then come back up it's like insanity i think there are guys like that in the nfl as well i think there are guys that are trying to beat the game beat the system trying to get through it and do that

whole thing but i do believe a lot of the fails are from guys that have no fucking idea that they're going to potentially fail and it comes out of nowhere and it's very alarming because your immediate thought is oh my entire legacy is going to be tainted my entire everything i've ever done on the football field is going to be tainted by this one particular test in which i took a pre-workout that i had no idea had this shit in and it turns out i had it in there it's a crazy time and that's why you always see in my 10-year career, I've never tested positive because that's Nuke worrying that this one fuck-up could potentially taint everything, and I don't think it should, especially if it comes out that he had no fucking idea.

Well, and he had the nagging injury all last year too, so there's probably a good chance what this was for like a recovery type thing, and he just assumed like, hey, this is going to help me because they were right in the middle of that playoff push too like every week it was like well nuke's got this injury but is he gonna play like he probably you know i mean it just it stinks because especially when you see like how how badly they need him i don't know and and like you you mentioned with like all the guys like i don't know do you think most people just assume that he has been doing this whole his whole career i don't know but i do think that people think that he was taking it on purpose.

I think people's natural thing every time an athlete, and I might be wrong. I could be wrong, and I apologize that I'm potentially judging people for being this negative, but I think any time a player comes out and says, like, I did not know this was in there, the natural reaction is like, how do you not fucking know? How do you not fucking know? And it's like that fda stuff is real like they don't have to somehow the supplement world has fallen into this crack that they don't have to get legitimized that not everything gets investigated i think

they have to have uh i think their warehouses and manufacturers have to be up to a certain code yeah but what's actually going into the shit is not getting legitimized or tested i don't think unless they change that within the last year so i think uh people's normal reaction immediately is to go that negative route especially when you're coming off an injury they they just assume players are trying to get back from injury faster um and the the stuff with like the gnc and not having to say what's exactly in it does him saying that he's completely holistic hurt that like because do holistic people put supplements yeah i think so okay i didn't know if they just only had ginseng well that's what i think that that type of shit comes in like pills yeah it does you know like i think they i think they do almost more of that yeah specifically but it's it's not

like of uh they're not putting like creatine in there. Correct. And like caffeine and everything. It's like almost the vitamins and how do you make your body the Uber that it could possibly be. I think. I don't know enough about any of this to really be talking, but I do remember like the supernatural Healy people taking the vitamins. A lot of herbals. Yeah, and all that shit. So they don't have to eat it because it tastes terrible. How often does that list change though? Every year of what the new stuff that's on the list and what they're testing for. Yeah, and all that shit so they don't have to eat it because it tastes terrible. How often does that list change, though?

Every year of the new stuff that's on the list and what they're testing for. Yeah, exactly. Because for a while, there are guys that if it's not getting tested for, okay, we can do this. And then the NFL catches up to them almost. So they have to keep up with it every year because if Nuke last year did this with he was banged up and then was like, okay, we'll just try that again because it worked for me.

But then going into the season, you know they get updated yeah yeah everybody gets a heads up like hey this has been added into the testing for instance the deer antler spray yeah the deer antler has something in it that generates some sort of reaction i'm not 100% sure what it is i haven't looked into it enough but it was not being tested for for a long time by the nfl and guys had found out about it and guys had been using it right because it was a recovery agent i think i'm not sure i think but it hadn't been found out yet by the nfl so then when the nfl finds out about it it becomes a big story hey the nfl is now testing for whatever's in they're not testing for deer antler spray whatever the motherfucker that's in the deer antler spray that's actually doing the work,

that automatically ends up on the list. The whole, and it's an interesting process, man. The whole drug, because I've seen guys walk in a locker room. It's like, well, that guy's definitely on something. What's that guy? Then he'll fail a test. He'll get suspended. Not care at all.

Come back the exact same way. It's like, yeah, this is just how I, yeah, this is just who I am. You lose money. They're either going to catch me or they're not. It's crazy. But a large majority, there is no conversation about that type of shit in the locker room, none, ever. I don't think I've ever heard anybody talk about that type of stuff

in the locker room other than like, hey, you can go get, you know, this guy does good blood. They remove your blood and then pump it back into your knees and regenerate this, the whole thing. That wasn't really a conversation I heard much about. But I think everybody's trying to beat the game, but in the NFL it's not like you're heralded as a cool dude if you're taking shit.

No, it's right. It's like, oh, this guy is fucking over people right now. Well, and it's like in baseball where it's like, hey, if you're going to get suspended but you're going to hit 30 more home runs and make $50 million more like, oh, this guy is fucking over people right now. Well, and it's like in baseball where it's like, hey, if you're going to get suspended but you're going to hit 30 more home runs and make $50 million more like in football, like you just said, guys come in in the offseason, maybe they look a little different, and then they miss four or five or six games, but then they have one of their best years

and they probably get paid because of it. It's probably pretty hard to justify doing it, but also understand that, hey, my entire livelihood is based on what I do on the field. And sure, this is going to hurt me in the short term, but in the long term, there's a chance that I really benefit from doing this. The whole thought of performance enhancing drugs is so fascinating to me because at what point did they decide they had to start limiting what people would put in? Because there are some people that would do anything to win. Oh, yeah. Anything to win.

That's why these rules are even in there because people are like, oh, that was for horses? It makes them run faster? Well, fuck, I wonder what it would do to my muscles. I'll try it. Let's find out. Oh, my God. Yeah, I'm a monster.

Some of these bodybuilders, and they'll pop up on my Instagram explore page every once in a while. What the fuck? Insane. How, I mean, we clap, they get awards and stuff for how big can your muscles get? Some of those, I saw a guy's quads that had quads. Yeah. His quads had quads and they stand there and

they do this whole flexing and it's like their entire body is maxed out and i'm like well you have to be on absolutely everything the entire process of they have to shuffle all those drugs around with them at all times probably illegally get them all then they have to do them all on a consistent basis while working out at all times and eating everything i mean the amount of commitment to just wanting to win is next level for some people and i guess that's why they have to test some people but goddamn i've seen some gorillas on the explore page that ain't gonna live long yeah i thought you just ate liver yeah i was gonna he is nothing compared to some of these fucking world bodybuilder guys that pop up on my thing. Some of these bodybuilder dudes, holy fuck.

How long do they live? I actually just saw recently that a very young bodybuilder, 37 or something like that, died. Because I assume it's not humanly possible to look like that if you're not taking everything. This dude had vascularity on each of his abs. He had 10 abs. His abs were as big as my chest. It was like he was working on each of his abs. He had 10 abs. His abs were as

big as my chest. It was like he was working on it. I'm like, God damn. But I guess the benefit is you become a champion in sports, you become faster, but I feel like you just get caught. I honestly, I feel like you always get caught up in it. And then the entire HGH conversation became a hilarious one. I mean, that was awesome. I was right in the middle of that and, um, not right in the middle of my career was right in the middle of that. They were going to start testing for HGH because that was the new thing. Everybody was talking about, Oh, everybody's on HGH. Everybody's on HGH. That was back when Barry Bond's head grew and every, you know, older vets guys were coming back, you know, from surgery in half the amount of time they used to be. And then coming back stronger

and faster than ever it's like holy shit then people start talking about this hdh they're like it is the actual fountain of youth we have found with the fountain of youth and i remember in the locker room the conversation was as soon as we retire as soon as we retire i'm fucking finding whatever this hdh thing is and i'm taking all of it. They're like, everything on your body gets bigger. You become smarter, more clear-headed. You see better. Your hand-eye coordination is better than it's ever going to be. And you recover immediately after your workout,

so you can just go back into another workout if you want to. It'll keep you lean. I'm like, what is this? How is this? Who found this glorious thing? But it was always like this myth this myth that was talked about and i assume some guys were using it i assume it was happening but it became a sticking point in the nfl between the nfl and the nflpa for some reason because the nfl wanted to

start testing for hdh and this was this was like 10 years ago maybe long probably 10 years ago when we didn't know as much about HGH, I don't think. It was just kind of still something that was being chatted about as a possibility. Not really like, hey, this is actually what people do all the time as adults in the world that have a lot of money. They just take this shit and then

the 29-year-old versions of themselves, when they're like 51 on yachts dancing, having the time of their life. Bingo. That guy was awesome. That's not just one guy there's like there's yeah thousands of them because of this hgh i think so it was always talked about the nfl wanted to test for it and they said the only way you could test for is if you take blood so the nflpa then had to okay and agree to random blood tests happening throughout the entire year year just like there is random piss test throughout the entire year for performance enhancing drugs. Then that led to the conversation,

well, what's the baseline for every human's growth hormone? So if you take, let's say, James Harrison's blood, are you comparing it to Ty Schmidt's human growth hormone, his natural hormone? How do you know what the baseline is going to be? And they fought on that for like months and months and months and months and months the testing for the hgh got delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed and then they finally just agreed to start doing the drug test or the blood testing and i still don't think anybody has ever failed it because i'm not sure they ever put a baseline out there i think the agreement was hey we have to fucking like at least say we're testing for it even though nobody's ever going to fail it because there's no natural baseline for whatever human has

because some might have more than other humans have it's like oh so hgh is like the best drug of all time so you even if they try to test for it they can't it's like holy shit what is this thing i think that is really the last hilarious bargain between the NFL and the NFLPA about performance enhancing. It was like, how do we keep HGH out of here? And then they were like, every doctor was like, you can't. It's impossible. We just got to test for it. Well, how do you know what the baseline was before?

Did you test for his HGH whenever he was a child and then as a teenager, then when he was a late teen, then whenever he was a, have you done that through his entire life? We don't know. His growth hormone could have just shot up more than anybody else. Oh, so everybody can take it while we're still testing them for it?

Yeah, but we can still say we're testing for it, right? Well, you are kind of. All right, cool. Yeah, perfect. So that's, I think, the whole PED process is wild because there has to be a baseline. There has to be, there also has to be a baseline. There also has

to be rules for engagement because what some people will do. But in there, there's so many gray areas and the supplement game is certainly a part of that. Do the pro sports work with the other leagues because it was more relevant in baseball before the NFL so would they ask the NFL

would the NFL ask the MLB like, how do you guys get to the bottom of it? And obviously, I think they just went straight to the doctors who are actually given the players HGH. And that's how I think was the they haven't caught anybody in HGH over there. No. OK. No, I don't think anybody's ever been caught in HGH except for in Constitution or in front of Congress whenever they're talking. Right. I don't think there is a way to find it unless you have somebody's baseline and they have. I might be wrong. I might be speaking out of pocket here but my understanding from somebody that got my blood taken for hgh testing while asking the person who i guess that person is not necessarily a scientist or a full doctor they're just taking my blood but it's like how

the fuck do they know what's coming out here i have no idea no i don't think that because like barry bonds never failed to test yes you know he never actually failed a test it's like, how the fuck do they know what's coming out here? I have no idea. No, I don't think that, because like Barry Bonds never failed a test. Yes. You know, he never actually failed a test. It's just he, you know, when he walked into the courtroom, everyone was like, yeah, I mean, come on. This guy's been fucking juicing. Are you kidding me?

But yeah, he never failed a test. So I don't know if they actually could test for it. 2011, a player tested positive for HGH. That might have- First baseman. For baseball? Yes. So I'd be intrigued to hear how many appeals that he could potentially go through now versus what was known

in 2011 about hgh i mean that is another hilarious conversation that guy could probably get that written off the books right now if he wanted to go yeah say well my baseline was just naturally higher test me now it's already back what's up yeah well and that's probably the only way right is that they just had like the blood from the year before and then it just like exponentially grew going into the 2011 season because you like you just mentioned with the baseline if there's no baseline like there just has to be a massive growth in it or like a higher percentage of it in your blood for them to actually be able to say okay yeah this is you're testing positive for hgh yeah i don't know because then they have to take everybody's blood for the baseline and there's no way is that even accurate i have no idea comparable like can you even

compare those i have no idea i have no clue that's why the ped shit is crazy and i think this younger generation i think they're less apt to put anything in their body anyway like steroids i think steroids are going to go down not up with this next generation of athletes i think they firmly believe in like what tb12 is now pitching like hey if i eat avocado ice cream and i have this amount of water and electrolytes every single day my body will be its best being i'm not going to sacrifice years off the end of my life just so i'm better in this portion of my life athletically because i don't think we've ever seen i don't know is anybody that has abused steroids live long we're like oh crazy that person it's all they always die from like heart failure it almost always happens

or whatever so i think this younger generation is less likely to do everything but i don't think the hgh era ever really got any answers yeah i still don't think there's any answers in the hgh era that one will continue to go on forever well you probably think that with nil too right because with the nil it's like got to be on the field. Like if I am doing stuff to try and get like an advantage and then I lose my scholarship or I lose playing time, then all of a sudden you're also losing money in college, not just the pros. So the NIL shit, that's a great transition.

We'll move past. Hey, Hop, we hope you're all right. Good luck, Hop. Hope you didn't take anything that's going to kill you. Hope it was an accident, even though that stinks and your heart probably dropped immediately upon seeing that you failed a test. That's a nightmare, by the way. When you take a test and you're waiting on the result, it does not, you know, especially if you're taking a pre-workout or somebody else's pre-workout, putting it in your bottle. Hey, what do you got over there?

You got a little juice? Yeah, here's a little pre-workout. Let me go ahead and take it. That one bottle could be tainted and take out like five, six guys on a team. Yeah, not expecting it at all. Like, assuming just like, oh, yeah, I'm going to pass this. And then, boom.

Not so much. There was a time where allegedly I heard from another place, obviously. Allegedly at another place in college when they would potentially test for street drugs or something like that. You know, guys would, from what I heard,

guys would get like a Visine bottle or something and they would empty it, they'd wash it out. They would get somebody who had clean urine for them. They would put that into the Visine bottle. Then you would sleep with tights on and you would put said Visine bottle in between thighs while you sleep so that this is allegedly what other people would do sure so then that visine would automatically become your body temperature because it's sleeping in between your legs then whenever you wake up for the test in the morning

this is what they do obviously i'm hearing about this never done this myself you wake up you also you pop that thing in the microwave a little bit. You give it like five, seven, eight seconds in there. Go ahead and let that cook just a little bit, allegedly. Then you put it back down in your tights. Then you go in for your test, and they say, hey, okay. And they watch you from behind. You go down in there, allegedly, from what I heard. Take that Visine bottle, spray it in there.

Tuck it back in, obviously. Shut that thing, from what I heard, take that Visine bottle, spray it in there, tuck it back in, obviously, shut that thing, from what I heard. And then they would give it, obviously, the fuel temperature test to see if it was actual piss. Then they would lift it and put it into a little thing to make sure there's enough electrolytes to see if it was actual piss. Then it would get confirmed that it is actual piss. Then they would seal it away. You'd sign it. You'd walk away. And those people would know, okay, i'm not failing this particular test because that person who just peed in it there was a guy from what i heard

obviously got a woman who did not do any drugs to piss in there he did pass the drug test he was pregnant oh no yeah ruined the whole thing for everybody from what i heard oh no damn yeah from what i heard ruined the whole thing for everybody that's I heard. Oh, no. Damn. Yeah, from what I heard, ruined the whole thing for everybody. That's tough. That is tough. I mean, I don't know if the baby was his or not. Obviously, I wasn't that close to the situation. Congratulations, maybe?

No, it were in order, I guess. I don't know. Ruined the whole thing for everybody. Yeah. That's like back whenever they used to allegedly use those big fake penises. Oh, yeah. Lickinator? Fake dongs.

Classic Lickinator. Big fake dongs, yeah. I heard of other people having somebody in a locker room thinking about trying to do that and the entire process of how that would work out. They've gone very next generation with those things. Oh, yeah. There's some remote operatives in that thing to really look alive. Yeah, really get the job done.

From what I heard. That one actually from what I heard. The Vizine one as well too obviously yeah of course toothpaste bottle the next batch of people from what i heard that had to go in there and tried to do the visine thing they had not gotten a heads up none of us had gotten heads up that things had changed so from what i heard uh and by us i mean them the person told the story i'm quoting the person. So they go in there, Visine. This thing has worked for years, you know, at said place, allegedly.

Go in there, put it in, turn around, hand the pee. Oh, the pee's not warm enough, said the piss testing. Got to go again. Oh, I can't pee. I don't know how that would happen. You know, that's weird so then that person would uh that person allegedly potentially ran around said facility to find somebody that could potentially you know generate yeah some non-pregnant non-positive right uh urine

was able to do so. Go back down there. This is not warm. Had to run the whole gamut again. Turns out they knew the whole game. Yeah, they caught on. Turns out they knew the whole game. That first class of people that had to take that group of testing, that had to be the worst morning of their life.

Nightmare. That had to be the worst mornings of their life. My friend who told me that story allegedly woke up with like 15 text messages it was like code red dude yeah the game has changed code red you guys need to start finding mushrooms because they're not spinal tapping anybody i don't think it was a wild it was a wild from what i heard yeah from what i heard the wire. I got tested 207 times, I think, over 27 months with the NFL's substance of abuse program. Got pretty good at it, I assume. Yeah, I'm pretty solid at pissing right in front of a dude in random bathrooms in hotels. I think at a gas station one time I got tested.

That was awesome. We had to get the key. You ever been to one of those countries? I'm like the. That was awesome. We had to get the key. You ever been to one of those countries? Yeah, I had to get the key. Me and this dude walked in, get the key, have to go out, open it up. We go into a little room right next to a little ice refrigerator, basically. Have to sign all these paperwork, and then he walks out of there, and then I walk out of there.

They had to think, oh, those two dudes. What the hell? What the hell's going on here? Those two dudes just fucked each other up. Turns out, no, I wasn't able to do really any of that or anything. I was just sitting there. 200 and some times I was pissing in front of a guy. That's so many.

It's enough for a lifetime. It was a lot. It's the reason why they don't get any. That's why nobody gets out of the substance of abuse program. But there's no way I'll stay out of that thing for my entire career. I wasn't even allowed to look at anything, basically. Smoked spice for like three months. That was bad.

Yeah. That was terrible. I was rolling spice blunts at one point. I can't imagine that. It was pretty sweet. Those blunts were pretty sweet looking there, weren't they?

Yeah, then you became a gateway drug dealer. Oh, try this stuff. It's pretty good. Well, I wanted, you know, I like the community. Join in. I like the community.

You want me to be alone? It's not for everybody. I don't want to be alone. Not on that stuff. It was wild times. 27 months. I couldn't talk to anybody. I couldn't do anything. Hey, what are you guys doing tonight?

Same thing we did right before you got arrested, man. Drinking pretty heavily. I can't hear you, Nick. I've got to fix these things. What did you say? Just drinking pretty heavily. Yeah, sounds like you, Nick. I got to fix these things. What'd you say? Just drinking pretty heavily. Yeah. Sounds like fun, man.

I'll sit here in my house, I guess. I bought every single video game console. Nice. I assumed I'll just get addicted to one of these. Everybody does. Never did. Never caught on. Fucking one time each of them.

Hated it. Played Call of Duty on Xbox. Got killed 45 times in like 2 minutes yeah that's tough this is terrible I hate this so I just started tweeting it's basically

what led to today hey so shout out to that shout out anyways the drug testing policy I just think we should have a little bit more

I don't want to say sympathy for the players but I do believe there should be an understanding that the FDA process is not necessarily a firm science on what is and process is not necessarily a firm science

on what is and what is not in supplements and guys do potentially try to take some pre-workout or some if there is a little recovery thing in there and i i believe the colts uh training room used to tell me if it works probably can't take it okay so that was very nice that was very very that was very good to hear the n NFL had an agreement with some supplement company. They had this one. It was such a big deal. It honestly became such a big deal because guys were failing and they had no idea. So the NFL would used to certify some supplement companies,

and then there was even like an app where the NFL had this supplement app that we would open, and then we'd scan the QR code on the supplement, and it would either give you a green or a red. But then, obviously, that just became whichever companies would give money to, the NFL became in there. So the players are immediately like, well, fuck this. We're not getting any money from these people. So we're not going to do this.

Well, these are the safe ones. It's like, well, this is actual oatmeal. This is not like any supplement at all. Like, what are we even doing here? So it has been something that I think they've tried to fix but the standard rule of thumb from the nfl is uh you know what you put in your body and you will be held accountable for it it's like well sometimes we don't so i just tried to look up real quick a little bit on the hgh testing if you just google nfl hgh testing there aren't even articles from the past three years the only stuff

is coming out from 2011 when they talked about it in 2014 when it was actually in the CBA and they were doing the test. Also, the synthetic levels that they test for are only testable for the first 48 hours. So it's very easily maneuvered around if you're using it. Yeah, so nobody's ever going to test positive for HGH.

No. Impossible. In HGH, you can be on all the time like it's not something it's not like a steroid where you have to cycle off like you can be on hgh your whole life what's that so what's the downside of it it also grows like cancerous tumors and tumors in your body or something yeah everything literally everything in and on your body grows. Your feet grow. Your head grows. Everything grows. So if you don't continue it or stop after a certain amount of time, your body...

What's the downfall? Your joints, obviously, there has to be some sort of... You got to get new shoes. New wardrobe. None of your shoes are going to fit. Big ears. Bigger hat size. Big hat size.

Bigger earmuffs. I have a massive head to begin with. Could you imagine this block? Yeah. It'd be a ten and a half. It'd be like those toy hats, the joke ones. What does it do to my knees? Does it make them better?

Am I going right back into the NFL immediately? Ha ha ha! I'm on HH. No, I'm joking. It's a rib. It's a rib. Sounds like you're playing tight end if you're coming back. Huh?

How about it? What if I am? I can grow to 6'4". I was just going to say, we're fucking small forward. We are not in the game of advocating for HGH. We're just explaining the performance enhancing drug process.

One of the biggest cons is the risk of cancer. They have to have something, though, to fight against it. You can get cancer. Hip, knee, and joint pain. That's pretty much it. So I'm going to have something, though, to fight against it. You can get cancer. Hip, knee, and joint pain. That's pretty much it. So I'm going to have knee pain? If you have scoliosis, it makes it worse.

Really? I'm actually reading an article here. It slows aging as well. But speeds up death. And high cholesterol. That's not what they're saying. What, it will make my cholesterol higher? Yeah, risk of...

Can't be on keto. No, no, no. And they shit. No, no, no. No. Risk of diabetes. So this is what AJ's on. Yeah. Probably.

A lot of bodybuilders, as crazy as this sounds, take insulin. What does that mean? Like it's for diabetics, but a lot of actual bodybuilders take insulin. Because they have such a high cholesterol diet? Insulin makes you absolutely jacked. But every time you take it, there is a possibility that you could die. Oh, every time? Insulin does?

You have to have, like, a watcher. Like, this is for bodybuilders. This is where those dudes on the Explore page will pop up, and I'm like, what is that? How do they go about their day-to-day? Are they able to walk? They know no they suck no insulin's like putting a little ketchup on your tremblone sandwich uh i'd say a lot more than ketchup my friend like hot sauce how often do you take it like once a month i don't know the full thing i think it's every other day i imagine probably hgh is every day right but you know? Gumpy, you know a lot about this. You do know a lot about this. Gumpy's head used to be four times bigger.

He has an entire other wardrobe. He has. Four X company. Two closets. His entire team. We've seen the Gorilla Squad. They've got big necks and heads. Yeah, they were all yoked up.

They've got a, hey, what is this closet over here? Oh, that's whenever we become, you know. That's my cycle closet, actually. Whenever I'm starting one, I know I've got to start wearing these clothes. This is the orangutan one. This is the everyday one. All right, depending upon where we want to go. That's got to be what AJ's on.

We'll ask him. That would explain his massive forehead. I mean, Bob Carpenter, I saw him repping out 315, so I assume he and AJ are just... Yeah, but Bob's actually doing commercials for one of these companies, right? Didn't we see him? He's pushing testosterone 100%. Yeah, I didn't want to out him on the show because I wanted him to say it,

but he didn't really say it. He said, yeah, I'm trying to be my best self or something like that, but I saw the commercial, right? They literally showed a bottle of testosterone and him working out. That was the commercial. Oh, yeah. Neugenics? No, I think he's creating his own. And what's the other one? TRT, right? Don't a bottle of testosterone and him working out. That was the commercial. He's getting all the genics. No, I think he's creating his own.

And what's the other one? TRT, right? That's another massive one. That's basically what he's promoting. So you get your blood tested, and then you take however much testosterone for your age to keep you at the right levels. Oh, because it declines.

Hey, by the way, I feel like that's the one. Isn't that the one? That one's better than the HGH one? Am I growing cancer from the TRT one or no? Anything. Like TRT, you can be on forever, but HGH is the same thing. Like HGH and testosterone is like the combo. The holy mecca.

That's the holy grail. Both those together will keep you young forever. Fountain of youth until your heart explodes. Yeah. No, because the TRT gets you at the level that you're supposed to be. You can have heart problems if you have low testosterone as well. And the HGH just sends

you off a cliff. Well, I don't know if it actually kills you. I think it just makes you bigger so you might wobble. You might wobble off the cliff. But anyways, DeAndre Hopkins wasn't on any of that. No, he wasn't. No, we don't know actually. Hopefully not. The more he learns, the more we'll find out.

John Lynch says he expects Debo to remain with the San Francisco 49ers despite him wanting to be traded. He broke that news on KNBR. Oh, yeah. Home of the bone. That's right, over there in San Francisco. I think it's the same radio station that we recorded from. Bleacher Report quotes John from KNBR

that he expects Debo to remain with the team even though his trade request, Lynch believes any issues between the sides can be ironed out. We kind of felt that same way when we heard Debo talking about it in Miss Precious's video. And in that video, you know,

he was chatting allegedly with A.J. Brown and allegedly this was them. We can't say for certainty, but felt like it was. Didn't seem like there was real beef between Debo and the Niners. That's why I think every person that has any inside information on it at all has said, they think they'll be able to work this out. Hey, money has a way of figuring things out. Respect and conversation have a way of figuring things out.

Debo and the Niners with two years left on his deal, everybody assumes is going to get things out. Respect and conversation have a way of figuring things out. Debo and the Niners, with two years left on his deal, everybody assumes it's going to get figured out. The other part of Miss Precious's video that we heard, if it is truly them, was A.J. Brown talking about

his situation with the Tennessee Titans, where in that video, it allegedly is A.J. Brown stating that they only offered him $20,000 even though they know that he can get $25,000 somewhere else. Now reports are coming out that the Titans only offered A.J. Brown stating that they only offered him $20 million even though they know that he can get $25 million somewhere else. Now reports are coming out that the Titans only offered A.J. $16 million, and he said that if they would have offered him $22 million,

he would have stayed, which is why A.J. Brown tweeted and said, this ain't my fault, okay? This is not my fault. Ari Mirov at MySportsUpdate, a pro football focus, tweets, A.J. Brown told Todd Davenport. Yeah. Sure. Todd.

Thomas. Todd sounds right. Terry. Ty, maybe? Tanya. Oh. Tara. Teron.

Teron Davenport underscore NFL. At T. Davenport underscore NFL. At T Davenport underscore NFL. That the Titans contract extension offer was for $16 million per season with incentives that could get up to $20 million. Brown says he would have stayed if they offered him $22 million. This was not my fault. Directly from the source, A.J. Brown told me he'd get the $22 million. They would have kept it at $22 million.

He sticks around. They did not. That's a great for wide receiver these days. And we've talked about the last few, I guess, weeks. There's going to be teams that decide to pay a vet, and there's going to be teams that don't want to pay a vet and want to go with a younger route in hopes of finding the next vet that's going to get paid somewhere else.

I'll be intrigued to see who ends up winning this whole thing. Do teams that pay the veteran wide receiver and get him on the team, you know, and let him on the team, you know, and let him do his thing, Odell Beckham Jr. to the Rams, win a Super Bowl, Antonio Brown-Gronk with the Buccaneers win a Super Bowl. But, so this is going to be two different narratives,

I think, as we build teams going forward. Well, and it feels like if the Niners were going to trade him, they would have done what the Titans did, right? And move him on draft night and then, you know, get a guy who hopefully can do something similar or at least produce something. Because the fact that they didn't trade him on draft night to get some sort of,

you know, wide receiver that they know they're going to have for the next four years like the Titans did makes me think now, too, they're not going to trade him before the season for next year's draft pick. As soon as we found out he had two years left on his deal, we all said, oh, he's not going anywhere, right? Because it's not even like they can make up the excuse of, oh, at least we're getting something from him, not losing him or whatever.

Well, when you say that, you're immediately just ruling out him being on the field for your team, which is a massive, massive upside. But I think he has two years left on his deal. Like 6.8 or something like that, like $7 million or something. That is nowhere near at the point where the Niners need to make a deal, and they know that. And he can't hold out with the new CBA. They know that.

Debo hopefully gets paid. We hope he gets all his money. But the Niners have all the control, as is what every single insider has said since the beginning this whole thing started out. I think he only has one year left. He does. Because he doesn't have a fifth-year option because he's a second-round pick.

He's getting paid $4.9 million this year. I can't remember who does that $6.8 million. Oh, Darren Waller. Oh, Darren had two years left on his deal. There's no way. Debo's not like that. So I was completely wrong with everything I just said for the last two minutes. But it still is the same case for even one year.

If you're going to have Deebo Samuel and you're going to bring back Jimmy G possibly for another year, you might as well just say, all right, we'll try again with this team who just went to the NFC Championship, and then if it doesn't work out and we can't re-sign Deebo next offseason, then at least we have a rookie QB on a contract and you don't have to pay for Jimmy. I'm about done with people saying at least we get something from him

because we're not able to pay him. He's a football player. You're getting football plays from him for another year. And also in that year, maybe relationships get better. Maybe you figure out how to negotiate a longer deal. Now the player isn't going to want that. They're going to want to get paid before the season even starts. But I think you're going to continue to see teams say like, no, no, no,

we can figure this out. Let's go. We can go one more year here. Well, in terms of, to your point about like paying a veteran, like both AJ Brown and Debo and why this is so weird is like, yeah, they're, they've been in league, but these guys are still like very young and they've they're proven. They've both went to pro bowls.

Like, so it's, are you trading off? Like, you know, you don't want to pay that guy? But it's like the guy you're bringing in, A, you don't know if he's going to be as good as A.J. Brown or Debo is. And B, what is he? He's three years younger. It's not like these guys are going to be 30 and 31 years old. But $20 million cheaper two years from now, which is a lot of money to save on the cap, even though we don't know where the cap's going to be. Jim Irsay said yesterday, we need more money. Yeah. Which is a lot of money to save on the cap even though we don't know where the cap's going to be. Jim Irsay said yesterday,

we need more money. Yeah. We need more money. And Brandon Bean said the cap actually should be around about 218, 220. We're actually below

where we thought it was going to be so that's affected us a little bit. Bean, by the way, was awesome yesterday. He's aggressive too. Yeah.

He knows it. He knows he's aggressive. He loves that he's aggressive and he's got his team to the right spot. Let's get to a break. On the other side, we went to some phone calls on the 5-Hour Energy phone line. Can't wait to chat with the Inns out there. Thank you all so much for all the love yesterday.

I took another trip around the fire in Scott. Hell yeah! 35. Here we are. President. Yeah. Is it 35 or 36? 35. Off to something. Season's still going on It's not with Porter and Arndt and Leigh That would have to be something

Where I would have to go learn a lot Nah Yeah Would have to Cause I stay out of all that shit so much That I would have to go learn The lay of the land a little bit I'd probably have to disappear for a few years to do that

You could go to the school of Dewey Johnson, though. I'd certainly try to learn from Dewey Johnson. Yeah, obviously. I would have to go intern, though, for a senator to see how she did. I'd have to do all that shit. Or you could just bring in Gonzo. I think it's quite aggressive to try to just become president when you know you've been a part of politics

before. Surround your cabinet with people who know. President seems like the worst job of all time By far I guess people love it just because they like power And they like the whole thing Man Those are tough decisions

I don't know I think every day is a tough decision Yeah I mean do you Do you want to age 40 years in four years? That's basically like the question I do believe there has to be younger people in charge, though. They do get a chef, though.

No offense to all the olds that I every once in a while see speak on TV. I know you've lived through a lot, so that is certainly something. But, I mean, the world's changing a lot. Personally, I would prefer the hard decisions that Jim Irsay has to make versus the hard decisions that a president has to make. That's right. I'm going to try to become an owner of a deal. Let's go ahead and just take that off okay you can come back to that in 25 years 30 years well by the way still gonna have to disappear for a while and

learn a lot yeah sure i don't know shit about fucking that world other than the fact that everybody yells at everybody yeah and you can become gonzo and be hated by everybody true bingo quickly if you don't play your cards right you don't even have your team on your side that's right your team hates you automatically. Yeah. I hope you're all right, Gonzo. Hey, good luck, Gonzo. I'm thinking about you.

I'm saying we hope you're all right, Gonzo. Just pissed off everybody. That's right. And that's what politics can do to you. Exactly. No way would I ever do that. This is the age, though, that I could.

So congrats to anybody else that turned this age. You might go on B. Go get them. Good luck out there. Give them hell. Let me know if you need anything. I'm going to be trying to build a stadium.

Today, Tom Diggs and Boston Conner have joined an alliance in being two grade-A dickheads with tinfoil caps on. That's right, as usual. Somebody just tweeted that to the group because I believe you two are spinning up conspiracy bullshit

on this program. All you said, personal decisions. we ain't getting no fucking jazz. Yeah, I ain't spinning shit up. We just staying with Beth and Augie. All right. Okay. There's no reason to even dive into that, but I will let the person know that sent that tweet. Got a pretty good pop out of me and Ty.

Yeah. Pretty good pop out of me and Ty for the burial of those two over there. Support the troops. And by the way, they're... God damn right. of those two over there. Support the troops. I'm trying to do. Support the goddamn troops. They're growing weed out there in Colorado. American dream.

8.8 acres down there in the valley, Beth said. They're living the dream. They looked into the bank and they said, you know what? Fuck it. We don't even got to do this anymore. Let's go Colorado. And sell weed. Hey, congrats, Beth. Thank you. Beth and Augie. Now joining us is a man who we believe is on massive amounts of human growth

hormone. We figured that out in the first hour as we were talking about the news that broke of Deandre Hopkins being suspended for six games because he somehow took a supplement or something that he did not know would fail a test that happened in November. Joining us now, an expert on all these things, ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, college football national champion, a man that ran a 4-4, jumped 40-some inches, played a massive amount of years in the NFL, never missed a game, even had torn pecs and calves and just battled through.

All-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, A.J. Hawks. Yay! A.J., were you just eating HGH, dude? So what'd you figure out in the first hour that you just told me? Well, so this is what happened, A.J. I was unable to see it. A lot of times I do get to see at least a good chunk of it.

I didn't see any in the first hour, so this should be fun. I'm going to be honest. Maybe our worst 22 minutes of ever recorded conversation. Very boring. The first 22? No, it was like the middle. Middle 22. 14 on. 10 to 32.

Started talking about DeAndre Hopkins. Obviously suspended six games. He said he goes with a very holistic approach, so he was very surprised and shocked, basically, when a November test came back positive. That obviously led to me saying, well, that's a bummer, obviously for Arizona. DeAndre, if he was actually surprised and he took a supplement, there was something in there that he didn't know that wasn't on the bottle. This is something that happens throughout the history of

the NFL. A lot of guys say they didn't know. And honestly, I think a lot of guys don't know because there's no FDA real regulations on explaining what exactly is in every single supplement. Now, follow up. I've gotten a text from Alan Quay Shipley that basically said there are two stamps, I guess, that are on supplements that the NFL says is good. It's like a EGIS. NSF certified used to be. I don't know if it still is. NSF certified used to be. I don't know if it still is. NSF certified.

You can also use an app called EGIS Shield. That will tell you if it's certified for sport. And people that use supplements that aren't on there are really rolling the dice, is what AQ says. Because the FDA doesn't go through it. But a lot of people say those supplements that aren't on that thing are the only ones that work. But then I was told by the training room, literally, if it works, you're probably not allowed to take it. That was kind of my entire process with being welcomed into the NFL performance-enhancing drugs situation.

And that led to a whole conversation about what guys do in other sports and the loops that people jump through to get this done. And then we landed on HGH and how that became something the NFL started testing for through blood. But there was no baseline. And we started listing off all the positives. And then we heard a negative, I guess, cancer growth. And then we went, oh, A.J. Hawk takes HGH.

So that is how we got to there. Now that we are here, do you have anything to comment on? No, but when you do look at what it can do, it absolutely sounds like the fountain of youth. So I understand when guys were trying to get on it. Now, it is something I absolutely, in my future, the future looks bright for HGH. I don't know when that moment may come. I don't know. I need to talk to some doctors.

But doesn't it sound like, oh, yeah, why shouldn't we all do this? AJ, I was talking about how when that HGH not that long ago was just something that was kind of talked about as like a myth on this. Like other, I think the only people that knew about it were old incredibly rich whites right and they were all actors actors have probably been on this game for a while that are that are cutting up for for roles yes this was something that was very exclusive for a long time even nfl guys i don't think it heard about it because whenever it was getting introduced into the locker room i guess like 10 11 12 15 years ago it was being chatted about as like, oh my God, this thing that's out there somewhere. And I remember saying alongside a lot of my teammates,

like, hey, as soon as I retire, I'm fucking on that shit. Like you hear this stuff, everything gets bigger. You get more agile. Everything gets faster. You recover quicker. Your mind's clearer. Your eyes get better. They say your hand eye coordination is better. Your cancer tumors do grow though. All right. something so you're gonna have to go do that i'm like i'm getting on that thing as soon as i can it's not that easy to find i don't think at this point honestly i don't think it's that easy to find but i've had the same conversation as you why aren't we all taking this they can't i don't think they can test for it i honestly don't think they can test for it nobody's ever tested positive for it and we might be in a generation where guys don't

want to shoot themselves up with anything but honestly honestly, the HGH feels like the only answer if you're going to take something. Not that you should. All the other stuff with supplements is very real, though. That's not FDA regulated, right? No, supplements are not. But that's another whole can of worms you could open with Connor and Diggs if you want to talk about FDA regulating things. But when it comes to tainted supplements, it's definitely positive. What was that?

The Oxy? Dope sec, yeah. D sick yeah dope oxycontin right yeah the fda fucking yeah they got a pass and then that guy who worked for the fda went to work hey they killed a lot of my friends man just one of that like a lot of people i know that fucking thing did but you're right let's assume they do more good than bad though let's assume let's hope yeah but they they i don't know when they came out with the websites and they said hey if you have something that you're questioning that you want to take you got to call you call these people they will let you know like you to certify something it has to be made like in a facility that has never had a banned substance like made there that's the thing like they've had remnants oh they didn't clean out their their huge tubs what they made before this batch of protein powder was banned when if you're an

nfl guy so like things like that can happen i don't think it happens real often um but yeah it's just i don't know how anyone really gets away with it in the nfl i don't know what they're doing hgh is a different story like they started blood testing for it however many years ago no one's ever been popped for it are they still even testing hey do you remember when they were trying to figure out if they could even test for it the nflpa was like well what's the baseline what are you even testing off of that was like a two-year fight i think wasn't it do you remember that same way it was a huge fight yeah and people like they're not taking blood from me like i'm not doing that and then we they negotiated they test a certain amount of people like per month or week and i haven't heard anyone

pop for it that's because i don't think there's no baseline. And when will there ever, I mean... How do you know if it's, how does anyone know? Bro, and why isn't everybody on HGH? Why isn't the whole world just prescribed HGH? I guess if it makes everything grow, you don't want it to make your cancer cells grow too, right? Yeah, but could

that have just been the thing they threw in on the end of it because everybody heard how good it was. It was like, yeah, but it could get cancer. You know, it could get cancer regardless. Let's get Dr. Drew on here. Well, last time we had him on here, his entire fucking doctorate got questioned. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I'm going to have to make him at the beginning if we do have him on again.

I'm going to have to make him rattle off all of his degrees. Yeah. That's what I had to do the last time. I felt like I was like trivializing him so much. Like, I am so sorry to be doing this to you, but you're an actual doctor, right? Yeah, he loved that, actually. He was like, thank you for letting me at least lay out my accolades and degrees because people don't believe I'm a doctor.

What were you, a supplement guy? You were a big supplement guy. You took pre-workout. Obviously, we saw you on that Onnit stuff, right? You had to look into all of that, right? Yeah, I never was a crazy supplement guy. I went through phases. In college, NO Explode made a good run.

That was the pre-workout goldmine for a long time. Then I ended up quitting that during college. That was killing people, right? N-O-Explode was killing people? No, that was like the – Jack 3D. Different weird drinks were killing people too. It had – what's it called?

Ephedra. Ephedra got banned. Yeah, Ephedra was the only thing that was really working, right? That was the thing that people were actually losing weight and everything like that, but it was potentially killing you? What was it called? Ephedra. Ephedra got banned. Yeah, Ephedra was the only thing that was really working, right? That was the thing that people were actually losing weight and everything like that, but it was potentially killing you. I think so, yeah. What was it? Hydroxycut. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I used to go on a hydroxycut six-day cleanse before training camp. Yeah, when I'd come back, I'd be like, all right, I'm going into isolation mode. And it was almost like Zero Braun 30 does. I'm going into isolation mode. I'm taking hydroxycut. Nobody called me. Nobody talked to me. I need work yeah every year and so i came back in the camp i mean i think i started out seasons pretty well but yeah i had to stop taking it because it

was doing something terrible to people i guess everything does something terrible to people inevitably but you're right uh the no explode era was awesome what was that next one there was another one that came like muscle there's a There was a Creatine era. Like, Creatine was right before Eno Explode. I mean, I'm sure Creatine's still big. I don't know. What did you say? Muscle Milk or whatever? No, there was a red.

Corey Gregory started it. What was it? The Red Tub was Eno Explode. Muscle Farm. Didn't Muscle Farm become a big deal? They're black and yellow. They're like logo. Yeah, it's the Ohio dude.

Yes, that Ohio dude. But he sold it, I it i think remember it took over there for like two three years and i think that was a bunch of pre-workout the people were taking but john jones was sponsored by muscle farm and kept testing positive okay so what are you saying there's a muscle farm got a bad name for a bit because of that dude the, the supplement... Or it makes it better because if I'm Bill Casual Fan watching, I have a normal job, and I hear Jon Jones test positive and say, oh man, this muscle farm has banned substances,

I'd say, yes, this may work for me. AJ, let's just say you have had friends that have tried banned supplements. Okay. Have you? Have I had friends? You mean like while playing in the nfl there's people that you know i definitely have there's there's definitely people that i have suspected for sure and i've seen guys have weird injuries as well at times when i've suspected things and i'm doing

stuff and talk to different coaches and strength coaches about yeah i think it's a tough world to jump into man there's no as tim ferris says there's no biological free rides like there's consequences for everything you do yeah there is always a ripple effect and you know the injuries do become a bit more catastrophic when guys are on stuff entire muscles just pop off and it's like all right we have to rebuild an entire thing i was telling the boys earlier it wasn't like an open conversation in the locker room i don't think i wasn't a part of anywhere anybody like in the nfl it is not a cool thing to be somebody that's on peds like in the nfl it's not considered a cool thing i don't know anybody i don't know one player i played 11

years i never heard anyone even talk about in a serious manner they were taking something they would joke about oh yeah you're juicing like talking to people no one ever like sat around oh man i'm gonna like what would you even say i don't i can't imagine them any locker room what would happen what's that movie the The Program? The Program, yeah. The Program, I guess, painted an image, obviously, that it's potentially like that. And then I think people saw that the MLB was like that. And then you see the NFL guys are bigger, stronger, faster,

and they hit people. I think people assume that it's a little bit more into the culture and everything. In my experience, it was not. Now, granted, there were people definitely on shit. We assume people are on shit. People assume everybody in the NFL is. I've said this to you before. Like, people that watch the NFL, they assume 100% of the players

or probably think a couple kickers are not on stuff. Like, they just assume everybody's doing it. What's that about? Oh, I wasn't one of them. Go ahead, Connor. Wasn't it a Packers, like, number one overall pick lineman? I feel like that's the only one I can, like, specifically. Tony Mandrich?

Tony Mandrich. Yeah, that was doing it, but it was completely alone. He was, like, in the bathroom before, Lyman. I feel like that's the only one I can, like, Tony Mandrich. Yeah, I was doing it, but it was completely alone. He was, like, in the bathroom before practices. Did he end up a Colt? Was he a Colt at some point? Yeah. He played pretty well for the Colts. Yeah, I think he's, like, he's been around for the Colts.

I've seen him in the locker room, I think, as a Colt, as a member of the Colts. He's, like, a 30 for 30. That's the only reason I know anything about it, because he, like, opened up about it. He was also on pills, too. Yeah, he was addicted to Oxycontin. I think the most recent person, and I assume this guy's a really good guy,

I only got a chance to meet him one time. Like Cushing was almost, right? Cushing was talked about. He had a couple times he had to sit out some games, I think. Yeah. Now he's a strength coach, though. I mean, he's a monster. He's awesome.

Yeah. He's an absolute beast. He, I've told the story story before the punter that filled in for me the night that i was suspended after my alleged event that led me into that 207 different things he killed that man i mean he that dude punted one and he was jogging down to like do a fake cover and cushing i mean a good 50-up. You're not allowed to do that anymore, are you? No, punter is not. He's a, what's that called, protected?

Protect defenseless, the punter. Yeah, I think that was potentially on the punters. Well, it's against the Browns there, but I think he had the same look on the punter that particular evening. That guy was dead. They had to shoot him up at halftime, I believe. He was not necessarily looking forward to get back out onto the field. He had to kick off, too. Wasn't a natural kickoff guy.

I think he was not necessarily thrilled to be there. I was sitting at home watching in my living room. I'm like, well, thank fucking God Cushing didn't do that. Thank God. I was very appreciative of that. He was an animal, though. There's not a lot of other guys that are around the NFL. No. I mean, back

in the day, they used to not. I think early 90s, I talked to a lot of other guys that are around the nfl no i mean back in the day they they used to not i don't i think early 90s i talked to a lot of guys that played that were coaching and they're like if they had it i took it that's what they would tell me they said they didn't test who was that who's that late late 80s i think it was different a lot of uh i think we know who that was rest in peace by the way that was not kg i would have gone full kg voice if i did a lot of uh big meatball linemen. Because they said, hey, all the D linemen are jacked up. They're monsters.

Like, I got to do something. Man, that's a different era now. I think this younger generation is not taking anything. I think they don't want to. I think they're avocado. They just have too many coaches surrounding them on the outside. They have your chiropractor, my life coach, my mental coach, my brand manager, my assistant.

Like, that's the biggest problem now, probably. Yeah, steroids would take out at least four or five of them chiropractor gone the psychologist gone spiritual guy spiritual i think this is a little bit more healthy honestly but there is a lot of voices around people it seems like a lot of voices around people these everybody's especially now think of nil stuff like people get i know high school kids can get paid in ohio now i am so pumped up for these kids in college right now somebody tweeted uh draft night jonathan jones jonathan jones tweeted ain't none of these kids crying ain't none of them crying they're all losing money from these nil deals coming into the draft you know it used to be like you get drafted oh my god not only are my dreams coming true i get to play professional football but also money is finally coming or a sense of money a good great money is coming to my family

he said none of these dudes are crying because there's multi-million dollar offers going out to guys right now i am so fucking pumped for them this kid addison out of university of pittsburgh just wanted to blitnikoff or whatever is the best wide receiver in football with Kenny Pickett throwing him to rock all season long. He entered the transfer portal. Allegedly, Colin Cowherd, shout out to Colin Cowherd, via Tim Cates here. Shout out to Tim Cates. He's being offered like $3 million to go to USC with Lincoln Riley. So this dude is in Pittsburgh winning the Blitnikoff, having the best year of any wide receiver or whatever.

Absolute stud. Kenny Pickett goes. He no longer has his quarterback. And now he potentially gets $3 million to go live in Los Angeles where all the stars are with Lincoln Riley. And that offense is going to be wide open. And he's becoming a multimillionaire. Get the fuck.

I'm fucking out of there. I am out of there. I know I assume Pitt tried to match at least a little bit of this, but if this is happening for Mr. Addison, congrats to him. I couldn't even imagine what's happening to quarterbacks that are absolute studs. Pat Narduzzi's not happy about this. He called Lincoln and he said, Hey, Lincoln, I know we got your quarterback starting for us now.

I know that we're using USC's starter last year for this. This is a little tampering. You're fucking tampering with my guys offering them $3 million, Lincoln. $3 million. Probably what Narduzzi's saying. And Lincoln's like, you just fucking wait. Did you see the academic scandals? You know how much money some of these boosters were paying

for getting their dumbass kids into our school? You know how much they're going to pay to get fucking players into the school? We got $5 million signing bonuses on goddamn deck, Narduzzi. USC's coming back. The Trojans are filling up the fucking Coliseum, so why don't you eat shit? And Addison looked at Coach Narduzzi. He's like, he's right. He's making good points.

All right. And with that being said, I'm like $3.5 million, and I am on my way to L.A. to go amongst the human feces in the great fucking USC football. I mean, good for him. Good for these dudes. That's a lot of money, though. That's a ton ton of money i wasn't thinking about the transfer portal like this where you can recruit guys the way that were oh hey i was the best receiver in all of college football

and i'm gonna transfer and get a three to three and a half million dollar bonus like that's crazy dude i'm hitting the streets if i am a sophomore stud free agency oh That's what it is. Hey, I might come back. Hey, listen. Hey, man. You can take it back. I'm going to... Old heads, old whites are going to hate this. Oh, my God, are people going to hate this.

And there's going to be a lot of players that are going to think they'll go into the transfer portal and $3 million will be there for them, and there won't be. Hey, nobody cares about you. Most people, it's not going to be there. Yes, that's going to happen, which is going to cause a lot of problems

in development and growth of teams because somebody who thinks they're a starter but they're a backup will never really get calloused enough to have to work through being a backup and going through the whole process, and that might make them even better. So there are a lot of downsides to the transfer portal,

but if guys are hopping in there and getting $3 million offers, fucking more power to them. Man, this almost like the nfl with florida and california where it's like okay yeah you could play a pit but you could also go down to miami get paid probably either the same most likely more money than you would be getting paid in pit and you live in fucking miami and it's the same exact thing with la like remember when caleb williams during uh right after the college football season i think it was like eastern michigan or something they're like hey we'll give you a million dollars right now if you come play yeah chuck batch that's who it was

it's like hey we'll give you a million dollars to come be the quarterback at eastern michigan and lincoln riley said caleb don't you fucking sign anything yeah okay i'm going to usc and go here's the documentary you need to watch okay these rich usc folks were having their dumb fucking kids do photo shoots in the pool to act like they were fucking polo players you are going to be able to get paid whatever you want to come to usc and that probably happened it did we did not disclose his contract details let's assume he's got escalators in there to make five ten million dollars at usc next year well i also remember there's a video of him walking in and gifting the entire USC men's basketball

team with Beats because he's also a Beats athlete. He's getting paid a decent amount. Man, I am pumped for these kids. There's going to be ripple effects. Something bad is going to come from all of this obviously. We'll watch it. We'll keep reading it. AJ Hawk would have got so much money oh my

god you would have been so rich so young you would have been awesome you'd been on all the hgh by like 19 how much is bob's uh company giving out how much is bob's hvac company giving out is that what that is is that a is that a cover a front for him to pay kids his hvac oh man i don't know but they i'm i'm sure yeah wouldn't you recruit a couple of current players to come out there and stand by the van and do a little marketing? Yeah. If you want your fucking heating done right here in fucking Columbus, C.J. Stroud said this is the company.

Absolutely. It may cost a lot to get C.J. Stroud right now. Well, C&J, you know, basement, they're going to cost a lot too, but they will save you thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands. Joining us now. Quality work. They're going to cost a lot, too, but they will save you thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars. Joining us now. Quality work. They need to get in on the Ohio State recruiting NIL train. Joining us now is a man who's from the state of Ohio.

He's a Stanley Cup champion, so obviously this conversation will veer into the most electrifying playoffs in all of sport which is the nhl playoffs he works for the nhl network and also co-host of that's hockey talk every wednesday night at youtube.com forward slash that's hockey talk with nick and baba gumpino ladies and gentlemen mike rupper what's up fellas how are you guys doing look at that view raphael it's nice, right? Nice view out here. Out here for game one, covering game one. Penguins, Rangers in New York tonight. So got down here. We got a nice shot of one of the many bridges down here.

Bridge City. Yeah, look at that. Perfect. Most bridges in any city in the world, 146 of them to be exact. 446 of them to be exact. 446 of them to be exact. That water ain't moving. That's a picture. Whoa.

What? Is that live? It's moving. I can see it. That's live, man. That's live, yeah. There's people walking. Yeah.

This is a real deal. Real deal here today for you guys, so it's nice. Is it? Hey, thank you. Take a good look, man. Let's take some time to figure it out. We try. We try, you know? Well, Rob told us he was going to be, hey, I'm going to's nice. Hey, thank you. Let's take some time to figure it out. We try, you know.

Well, Rupp told us he was going to be, hey, I'm going to have a great backdrop, he said. He's going to have a river. I'm excited about it. I thought he just went in front of a picture somewhere. Hey, thank you for giving us this beautiful shot. Let's go. The NHL playoffs are taking place. Sidney Crosby, the GOAT, and the Breadman, each going to score a point tonight.

That's a super boost right now on FanDuel. How do you feel about it? What teams are getting hot? Who's the wagon? What should we be looking for, Ruppert? Yeah, I like that boost. I like that a lot. There's been – those guys are always going to chip in

and get some goals here, and both teams rely on them. Yeah, teams that are hot right now, man, it's tough. I mean, you've got the big dogs that we've been talking about all year, the Florida Panthers, the Colorado Avalanche, but, I mean, we're seeing pretty early on in these playoffs that it's a whole new season, man. Anything can happen in these games. So, yeah, I think that the hottest teams kind of coming in.

I mean, the Minnesota Wild have been unbelievable. They got torched last night by St. Louis. So, I don't know if that gave them any momentum going into the playoffs, but we had game ones of all four of the series last night. We got game ones of the other four series tonight. So it's going to be good, man. I think this is the best time of year. And it started off with some fireworks last night. There was some rough play. And the games were kind of all blowouts, nothing really crazy. But I would expect different moving forward here.

Hey, Rupp, when I was a rookie in the NFL preseason, I was like, oh, my God, this is a fast game. This is a fast game. I was kicking off, and people were running around me at a high speed, much faster than it was in college. Then we got to the regular season. Whoa, got a little faster. Holy shit.

We got to the playoffs. Okay, somehow everything's faster the collisions are bigger and then i was lucky enough to play in the super bowl and i thought i seen four cameras hit four cameras i mean people were fucking wide open the nhl playoffs seem to be much faster than the regular season although the regular season is electrifying the nhl playoffs always seem to have electricity in it it was blowouts but you're saying there's fights are flying around is that a known thing you're a stanley cup champ you've been around playoffs a lot is it like hey okay now everything heightens everybody goes faster what is it about the playoffs you think

that makes everybody better it's so weird too because i think you guys would agree the same thing like you in the regular season you're not sitting there you're not putting yourself on uh you're not sitting there saying well i'm gonna i'm gonna hold back like you feel like you're fucking going all in right and i don't know what it is all of a sudden you turn that page into playoffs and it's a different level man like you're sitting there you're seeing guys play i mean i in my in my years playing i've seen some guys playing through some shit like some like there's a picture of john madden the hockey player if you if you look him up i guarantee you one of the pictures he had a he had like skate cut, like a big C right around his cheek or his eye, and it was just stitches

everywhere, guys' broken bones, and I don't know, it just kind of gets that out of you, right? It's like a different feel. The other thing, too, I think some fans have issues with it, but I love it, because I think that's what the playoffs are all about. It's like, even if you took a picture of a guy in training camp, guys would come into training camp fucking jacked. But after the playoffs, you look at them, they got their cheeks sunken in.

They look like they lost 30 pounds. Like it's just hanging on for dear life. And the rules are a little bit different. And some fans don't like that. But, you know, maybe some things that would be called penalties in the regular season aren't going to be called in the playoffs. The referees don't want to make the decisions in maybe some things that would be called penalties in the regular season aren't going to be called in the playoffs the referees don't want to make the decisions let the boys play a little bit so some people get pissed about that because you're going to sit

there be like all right player x had fucking 130 points this year now in the playoffs he's not on the score sheet well you know what i mean maybe maybe i'm being uh partial because it would even the playing field for guys like me right so we can go out there and be difference makers and it's about what are you going to do to fight through this shit to still score goals it's not going to be easy so i i don't know that's the one thing that always stuck with me in the playoffs you thought you were already at your highest gear and somehow some way shape or form you find another one and it's incredible it's men's hockey up there. Hell yeah. Rupert, why are there different rules for the playoffs, and what

are those rules, and when did they put those in play? You know, it's just like the ticky-tacky stuff. In the regular season, you might sit there and I don't know, maybe... Is this in the rulebook, or is this unwritten? No, no, no. Same rules. Same rules, just enforced.

Hey, Jay. We got different rules for playoff overtime. Sorry, Pat, in the NFL. Same rules. Same rules. Just enforce. Just enforce the rules. We got different rules in playoff overtime. Sorry, Pat, in the NFL. Oh, jeez. No, no. I know what you're saying, but it's like... Talk about Jon Hammond's dong then. What? This guy. If I can't ask a legit question to a

legit hockey champion, sorry, Pat. Chompy. So, no, it's like they're not enforced the same way. We don't want fucking nine power plays in the playoffs. We don't want it decided by special teams. So you're going to sit there. You can get away a little bit more.

You know what I mean? Like you can kind of lay it into guys a little bit more. After whistles, get into scrums a little bit more. You can just make life miserable for everybody. So I think that's kind of the way this sport has always been played. And there's obviously a group that wants to change that. And we don't want to take away skill. I want to see goals.

That's what everybody goes for, for goals. But we also want to see it's hockey. And I would say the same thing probably as a viewer of football. I want to see football played. Don't make this all ticky-tacky. Like if you can't deal with getting hit at a high speed, hockey might not be your game. You know what I mean? So that's something that just kind of goes back, and I think that goes into the whole playoff beers.

Guys are growing their beers. My favorite time of the year, which is kind of weird to say, is when the playoffs are all done and a team hoists the cup. Then you start seeing, or even when teams get eliminated in the playoffs, you start getting their exit meetings, whatever, and this is what the player was dealing with. You remember a few years back, Connor, you remember this shit. Remember Patrice Bergeron?

Back when they won the cup or when they were going to finals. This guy had a fucking punctured lung, broken rib, broken foot. He had like a, you know, a sprained knee. Like the guy, you wouldn't even notice. He was unbelievable. So you see some of those things. I think it just makes everyone like you come together and you're tight as a group because you got to fucking, you know, kind of gut through it together. And we hope Ben Simmons can obviously get back on the court. Yeah. good transition there good transition there by you aj bringing up the big dong man john ham actually said on that's hockey talk you see you know in the playoffs the big teams nobody wants to stop the big boys st louis is a big team and it's talking what you're

talking about right now the style of play also tampa big team yeah those big boys really start become a lot more powerful in the playoffs because they're letting things go is the nhl the best officiated game in the world you think i believe it is just because the way the refs do like acknowledge the refs acknowledge it's like hey we're gonna let you boys play a little bit more tonight and they'll talk shit with players they'll say hey we got to make up for a call that we fucked up earlier like it almost feels like they're the most human out of all the other officials. Am I wrong in thinking that? Do you guys hate them inside the sport of the hockey? I would say that most guys say that the officiating is fucking terrible.

I mean, I'm not saying it is. I'm saying as a player on the ice, you're always going to bitch about the way things are being called. I actually think, and now that I'm done playing, these guys, dude, it's a fast game. They're doing their best. If you find, give me someone who could do it better. There's going to be a human mistake in this game, in every sport. I don't want to see Biddle replay on every single thing, right?

So I think it's done good. The biggest problem that we kind of have, and you could probably blanket that with any sport, is you just want consistency as a player, right? So when I start a playoff series, generally speaking, we should have the same referee crew the entire series. I got to know. It's like a strike zone in baseball. What's he calling?

Is he calling something off the plate a little bit? Or is he, you know, where's this at? So you test him in game one, and you kind of get out there. And I, like, let's say even in the even as a net front presence i'm in front of the goalie i'm supposed to take away his eyes right so i'm in there and i'm supposed to stay outside the blue paint right so i'm supposed to stay outside the crease well fuck like if i'm doing my job i'm getting in the blue paint yeah just like that sorry you gotta block the goalie sorry you gotta mirror the puck sorry take the goalie's eyes away

so know what you're gonna do pat you back up so the goalie's behind away. So know what you're going to do, Pat? You back up. So the goalie's behind you. When you back up, he has to back up. When the goalie backs up, you back up. Look how much more room you can see behind me. That's the net, right? So I want the goalie to go back. Well, you're going to have a ref there that's like, Ruppert, get out of the blue paint. Ruppert, oh, yeah, yeah.

Sorry about that. Next time down, plant myself there again. I'm going to see where my threshold is, and I know what I can get away with. It's the same thing with hits, scrums after whistles. You push the envelope. The referees give you a warning. Maybe you push a little bit more, and then you realize, alright, this is where it's at here.

But there were a lot of penalties called last night. I didn't love last night's flow to the games. But they probably just want to set that standard early and hope the guys will follow. So your spine just eats sticks while you're doing the sorry about it? Sorry about it? Is that what happens?

You're just eating a stick the entire time? Sorry about it? Sorry about it? Dude, it used to be way worse. So we used to – we had Chris Pronger on That's Hockey Talk a couple weeks ago. Yeah. And he was – And he knows dirty.

Pronger's a pronger. Dude, one of the dirtiest fuckers that ever played the game. What did he say on that talk? He talked, I just want people to. Everything. I don't want to be consistent. He said, I want people to be surprised by my next move or something. Yeah.

And it was like, well, you did. A lot of people were. Dude, did you guys, have you guys ever seen in the All-Star game in L.A. a few years ago? They had a celebrity game. Prongs played in the game. Justin Bieber played in the game. Do you guys remember this picture? He fucking flattened Justin Bieber against the glass.

And it's a picture. Bieber's face up against the glass. Like, ah! Like, oh, it was unbelievable. If you guys can pull that at some point, it's incredible. So that's Chris Prower. He just likes to be an asshole, you know? He's just a loose cannon.

Yeah, just a loose cannon. But here's the thing. So it's changed a little bit in regards like it's not as hard to go it's still a it's still a hard thing to do to go in front of the net and get rewarded scoring goals you're gonna have to pay a price sticks in the back of the spine like you said you're gonna get waxed but it's not like the way it used to be the way it used to be the way it used to be is you would want to get close to the defenseman because if you were too far away from the defenseman, like stick lengths away, they're watching the play on one side, and they're just taking their stick and swinging it, trying to find you.

So that's their field. That's their hands, right? That's their reach. They're looking this way, and they're fucking swinging, baseball swinging that way. So you're standing in front of the net net and you're just getting two-handed across the ankles, across the wrists. Fuck, man. I want the guy close to me. Back then, man, it used to

be tough. You'd get done playing. You'd have big... You couldn't even move your wrist back because your forearm had a big welt on it. It was tough times, but it's changed a little bit. Hockey's so tough, dude. Hockey's so tough. Bieber knew that whenever he signed up to play that. Yes.

Look at Prong's face, too. Look how happy he is. What an asshole, man. Look at that. Biebs. Biebs' chin right up against the glass. That's incredible. Bro, Biebs had a concert.

Yes, I was going to say. He had a concert that night. Come on. It's unbelievable. They had to go with MGK. That's right. Go ahead, Ty. Ruffer, I've already denounced the Golden Knights because they absolutely stink,

and they broke my heart by not making the playoffs this year. Two-part question here. Are they going to just fucking stink forever now? That's what a lot of people are saying. And if you're a prospective hockey fan who doesn't have a team going into the Stanley Cup playoffs, which team would you circle and say, hey, this is the wagon you want to jump on? Pittsburgh Penguins. I like that one.

I like that one. So if Vegas was going into the playoffs or if they made it, they're a great team to follow, man. That's a great organization to follow. Here's the thing with Vegas and Vegas' future. Vegas was a team that came out as an expansion. The rules were changed a little bit as far as the expansion draft. They took full advantage. They kind of held every other GM hostage

and they took full advantage of everything. So they went to the Stanley Cup finals. And it's been funny though because I think because they've experienced a really good team every year. This is the first year they have not made the playoffs. Every other fan base despises them like they don't have to go through the pain they don't have to love that it's it's like they're the they're kind of like the heels of the nhl now everybody hates them and uh they're kind of like the new york yankees where they're going i mean this year they were like 15 million dollars over the salary cap which which everybody was having – they found a loophole and found ways to put guys on the LTIR.

So people just hate them, right? The owner is great, unbelievable. If anybody gets out there to Vegas, check it out. Like world-class show they put on. Fans are really loud, crazy. The problem with Vegas has kind of been in the last little bit, last couple years, is like they've – their management of personnel hasn't been great. So they've gone out.

They've bought the big expensive shiny objects. But they've lost a lot of character guys in their room. I don't know where it goes from here with Vegas. They're dead. They stay. Yikes. They're going to run it back with the same squad next year.

They have to because of contracts. They should be a playoff team, but honestly, Ty, I think it's going to have the reverse effect. Instead of an expansion team coming in and sucking and getting better each year,

I think Vegas came in so high, and now we're just going to keep seeing them step down. Oh! It's over. Maybe Stoner will play in more than 12 games next year. A fun team to watch here

in the playoffs. Maybe they'll do Zambelli fireworks every game. That's what people would say. What did you say? Zamboni fireworks? Zambelli fireworks. Zambelli fireworks is a good idea. They're going to have to keep people coming to those games in Vegas. If they stink, people are going to stop coming to those. Ty's no longer a fan. They're going to have to keep people coming to those games in Vegas. If they stink, people are going to stop coming to those. You're a Tide.

Tide's no longer a fan. They're going to have to up those shows. No, they'll be good. Next year's their year. They'll tell a lot. They'll have a good shot at doing something next year. I don't like Jackie Aces. I don't know.

They need more from Jackie Aces, man. Goddamn right. Listen, I got it. You got neck surgery, all right? But we got to start seeing some fucking goals too, right? Thank you. I know, but the team to watch, a fun team to watch, I don't know how long they'll last.

Florida Panthers, man, they score a shit ton of goals. They're a scrappy team. They've got a lot of pieces there. So if I was a fan, this team didn't make it in, I'd jump in that bag. There you go, Foxy. That could be you. It's 10 years too because the Red Wings ain't ever going to win. Yeah, Robert, what the fuck happened to the Bruins last night?

I mean, they didn't have any cement in their skates coming out, but I was basically playing fucking tendy. Are they going to get swept by the fucking Hurricanes or what? Dude, one of your colleagues, one of the mass holes out there, came at me on Twitter the other day. Good. It was like they – I just put a tweet out there, just kind of stating, going over a couple of your colleagues, one of the mass holes out there, came at me on Twitter the other day. Good. It was like they – I just put a tweet out there just kind of stating going over a couple of the series. So this season there was three games between the Bruins and the Hurricanes, okay?

And the score differential in those three games was 16-1 for Carolina. So I just simply said like, I don't think that's going to cut it, you know? And this Bruins fan comes back at simply said, like, I don't think that's going to cut it. You know? And this Brewings fan comes back at me and is like, wow, we were without Brad Marchand and Patrice Bergeron for the one game.

That was the one game Tuka Rask played in the other game. I'm sure they had a full roster. And he was giving me all these excuses. I'm like, alright, dude. 16-1, still 16-1. So if you want, like, what would you like? Can we shave off five goals? Like, let's just say five goals.

Fucking 11-1 is not very good. Like, what are we doing? Cover the five bells. I love passionate fans, but they're going to be fucking real at some point. Like, they dominated them. You guys fucking stink. Yeah. So anyways, no. To answer your question, I think Boston will have a pushback.

I think that – and I don't know how that works. And I don't know how you guys were in your profession too. Like in hockey, when a team owns you all season long – so there's two situations this happened with in game one yesterday. So you've had Carolina owning Boston all season. Fuck. And you had the St. Louis Blues owning the Minnesota Wild all season. Okay?

So now it's like, yeah, of course, I'm picking those teams to win in the first round. But we sit there. A lot of people say, oh, it doesn't matter. It's a new season. It's a new time. It's a new time. It's new this. Okay. But when I played in,

that was a situation we want to say, what the fuck are we supposed to say as a player? Like when, before the playoffs, oh, is it, is it on your mind that these guys punted you every time you played in this year?

Like you might be, you know, you're sitting there like, what do you want you to say? Yeah, man, we're done. You know,

so you're going to say, no, you know what? We, we're going to learn from it. We're going to be different here and do you want to say? Yeah, man, we're done. So you're going to say, no, you know what? We're going to learn from it. We're going to be different here and whatever. So you say those things. But I've been in that position and you're in the playoffs and you're trying to fight against it mentally. No, it's different.

This is perfect, right where we want them. And then you get out in game one and you see the same shit happening again. Like it's a punch in the face. So I'm interested to see how they respond. But I think Boston will make it a series. I don't think they'll roll over in this one. How did St. Louis do? Because they got killed by Minnesota.

Who won? No, St. Louis killed Minnesota in Minnesota. Minnesota only lost, you know, out of the 41 games at home, I think they lost seven this year at home. And St. Louis went in there and dominated, man. They looked really, really good. Flower got the start. He wasn't in a position to go for a goal.

That's on his mind, courtesy of you. That wasn't the situation last night. I would hope that you get another crack at game two. Game two, it's probably going to be flower, but the Wild, they didn't look very good in that one. Well, that's because the Blues are tough. Oh, yeah. Unfortunately, Pat, what we're up here saying here is not

very good news for the Pittsburgh Titans. Why is that? It's split. It's split. Because the Bruins stunk all season. They stunk last night. St. Louis Blues stunk all season. They were great last night. It's different Blues stunk all season. They were great last night. It's different. Those are two different outcomes.

That's what he was talking about. That was his entire point, right? I thought he said that the Blues dominated. No, no, no. It was the same outcome. So my thing was like, you're trying to fight against it. Great changes tonight, dude. You're trying to.

We know it's tonight. Let's go. Yeah, you're trying to fight against it, and the same shit happens. Like, AJ, when you're playing, and you're playing against a team in your division. Adrian Peterson. Yeah. Yeah, like, okay. Say Adrian Peterson dominates you, puts up five touchdowns in two games, and the offense dominates.

Like, and you're playing them in the playoffs. Like, you want to think different, but at the end of the day, like like it just takes one play again of them smashing you in the mouth, and you're like, holy shit, here we go again, right? Yeah, you better get out to a fast start. You better jump on them quick. You're right, because then all of a sudden one play happens, and you can kind of – there's a feel that goes through the crowd, and I think the team, too.

It kind of sucks. Well, not just on the losing side. On the winning side, too, it's like, yeah, we're doing this again. Yeah. This is happening again, and then things start rolling. Big Mo almost shows up in a quicker fashion and the Pens have gotten murdered by the Rangers this season.

We got a new goalie though. We got a new goalie. Best goalie of all time, Casey DeSmith. I thought it was Louis Domingue last week. He's playing left wing. Gumpy, you're going big on Louis Domingue. Big Dick Domingue, he'll be in there at some point. No, he won't. Casey DeSmith's putting a shot out for putting a shot hanglins are winning tonight i don't know what you guys are worried about here's i agree you know what i agree you know what i agree that's a good call gumps i think

that they i think this is a team i don't have them i don't know if they're i'm sitting here doing the game in lovely pittsburgh and i simply at this point i don't have a good feeling i don't think they're gonna win the first round but this is a perfect spot, right? It's a win-win. So if they win, I feel good. I don't care that I was wrong, right? But here's the thing. Casey DeSmith. Casey DeSmith is his... He's not the starter.

Tristanjari's the man, right? And so everybody when Tristanjari went down, they're like, oh, these guys are done. I thought the same thing. And I saw this stat the other day. It was interesting. When you go back to the cup years of the Penguins, so cup years and even this year with Tristan Jari, you have in 2016 numbers of Flower and Matt Murray in 16 and 17. And you take Tristan Jari's numbers this year.

And this year he was an all-star. He was awesome. You take their season numbers, I think the save percentage is anywhere it ranged probably from, you know, like a 9-15 or 9-14 save percentage. Casey dismissed at a 9-14 save percentage. Oh! 9-14! It's not like this guy is coming in as a goalie.

When you're looking at those numbers, you're like, anything in the NHL, you should not be a starter if you're under 9-1. Like 9-1, 0, say, percentage and above. You should be up if you're a good starter, right? If you're below 90, you probably shouldn't be in the fucking league. You know what I mean? But his numbers are good, man. They're just as good as those guys when they won before.

So I don't know if Casey DeSmith is going to be the story. I think it's going to be in a solve the other team's goalie because that's been the best goalie in the NHL for the Rangers, Igor Shosturkin. What's his? What's Igor Shosturkin? Igor. Igor Shosturkin. Aug Igor. Igor Sheskorskin.

Augie? Is it Augie? Augie is it? Give it one more shot, Pat. Igor Sheskorskin. Yeah, that's good. What is Igor Sheskorskin's save percentage? .915?

No, he's, I think on the year he's pushing 9-3. No! We are fucked! We made pucks on net! Absolutely! We did numbers, we did quantities! Remember this? Pucks on net!

Pucks on net! We need a hundred shots tonight Man in front Here's the other thing though You remember this though This is kind of a bit of an X factor I think Because I know I'd be pissed if I was on the Penguins

So Shesterkin's going to win the Vezina For best goal center of the year Remember the last time these fucking guys Remember the last time these guys played And there was another game of the Rangers spanking the Penguins and Shesterkin, there was a scrum at the end of the game. Danny Malkin's in there.

Jake Gensel's in there. And everybody, the whole team had like a bench clear argument at the red line. No fight, but shoving and whatever. And this kid who is second year in the league, goaltender Igor Shesterkin, does this to the Pens. He's like waving bye-bye.

Igor Shishgorkin? Yeah. This motherfucker. Yeah, we remember it, Ruff. He needs to eat some fucking Pops tonight, fellas. Igor needs to remember this ain't the KHL playoffs, okay? This ain't Moscow. This is the big time now.

Fucking run of the next. We'll see how he handles it. Pucks are fucking deep tonight, boys! You don't got the KGB behind you here, but this is the National Hockey League. Listen, Igor Shkorsky, welcome to the fucking Sidney Crosby show, pal. Alright? Look up GIFs of Sid. All of them

are him lifting Lord Stanley. You have no fucking idea what you're facing tonight, Shikorshkin. I'm fucking sick of this guy. I'm sick of this guy. Second year in the league waving at our team, Igor. 93% save percentage. This fucking guy. We need shots and bunches.

Hell yeah. We need to get to that. Got to get them shots on that. You got to screen them, just like you were screening earlier. You got to screen that fucking goalie here tonight. Yeah. All right. Are you on TV tonight, or where can we see you?

Yeah, so the game is on, I think, ESPN. Oh, primetime Sidney Crosby, of course. Yeah, and it'll also be aired in Pittsburgh, and the regionals are picking it up too. So it'll be aired on AT&T Sportsnet Pittsburgh, and that will be on MSG for, obviously, the Rangers. So, yeah, I got pregame, postgame. Colby Armstrong is joining me.

Colbs. So we're going to be hashing it out in front of the big monitor. It should be a good time. How was the watch-along? How was the watch-along that happened on that Sunday with the Red Wings? You did a watch-along thing. Did it go well? Did you have fun? No, I had fun.

I had fun. The studio we used at MLB Network, it was incredible. It was such a cool look to it. They tried something different. There was mixed reviews on the feedback. It's just because when people watch games, some people just say even the Manning cast. There's some people that I think it's great.

I love it. I just want the game on here and I can listen to them. But some people don't like that. Following the game, yeah. Some people want the play by play. That's fine. So this is not for everybody. And so I think it was,

I like that we tried it and tried something new. Used the resources there at MLB to do something neat and whatever. I don't know if we'll do it again or if they tried it or if they'll tweak it. But it was fun. It was just, you know, I think hockey, the only thing I'll say is hockey is a tough sport to follow sometimes because it's so fast moving.

You can't tell where the puck is. I know AJ mentioned he was a fan of the lasers behind the puck back in the day, you know, I think when Fox had it. So when you have somebody that's just talking and shooting the shit, it's probably even harder to follow for some fans. So it's not for everybody, but I like doing it. It was fun. Did you play during the Glow Laser era?

No. That would have been probably right at 2000, somewhere around there. That was awesome. I don't know. Yeah. They had this whole robot. Remember, didn't Fox do that for all their sports? Fox was always going with this like, this robot theme where –

I remember even – wasn't it even football? Yeah, it's like they're going to break and they have, like, two robots running into each other. I'm like, why are they fucking going Transformers? Like, I don't understand. All right. I didn't get it. Who you got tonight? You got Penns winning tonight, it sounds like.

Yeah, I got Penn's winning tonight. Texas hockey. I'll have to change on my – I'm still going Rangers in the series. Texas hockey. They could maybe steal one here. Put it this way, Gumps, they need to steal one early. Or fly out of the gate like we always do. We'll see, man.

We'll see. I'm not worried about Calgary. There's some tough matchups. Tough matchups in the Western Conference. So we'll see. We appreciate see there's some tough matchups tough matchups in the Western Conference so we'll see we appreciate you Ruppert

thank you so much can't wait to talk to you again as the NHL playoffs continue to unfold ladies and gentlemen Mike Ruppert to an incredible businessman a man

who today is overseeing the premiere of the 30th season. 3-0. The 30th season premiere of The Ultimate Fighter today

on ESPN+. Then this weekend, a stacked card that is headlined by Oliveira Ngechi on ESPN+. Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the UFC, founder of of the UFC, founder of Fuck It Friday, Dana White.

What's up, dude? What's up, buddy? Happy birthday. Hey, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. You know, another year around. You and The Rock have the same birthday. I know. It's pretty cool, right? He's done a lot more with his life and he looks better at the age of 50. Yeah, happy birthday to him as well. Happy birthday to you. I missed yours. But you both have the the same amount of money whoa whoa whoa whoa

whoa whoa no we're all trying to catch up with dana fucking white right now uh as we should look 30 seasons of something is impossible in the modern world especially of entertainment let alone sports 30th season here of The Ultimate Fighter. Congrats. Hey, congratulations. This one, bigger than ever, too, it feels like. The same amount of steam as season one, it feels like. Yeah, you know, we brought it back last season, and it absolutely killed it.

So, you know, I always think it's all about the coaches, too. So we got great coaches. The rematch for this fight with Nunez and Peña will be awesome. And hopefully people like this season. The ultimate fighter. Was that your creation, if I do recall? Because you wanted to find more fighters from outside the world that you were currently in. Is that how it started?

No. So what happened was back then we couldn't get on television. We kept trying to get on TV and none of the networks would take us. They were too afraid of, of the product. So at that time, uh, reality shows were just starting to explode. So we literally went into my office, me and a bunch of my people that worked for me at that time. And we came out at like two in the morning with the concept for the ultimate fighter. And even though we had like a, like a, a concept for it, It was a work in progress that whole first season. The first season was the longest season ever. I think those guys were in there

for like six or seven weeks. Social experiment. The full social experiment in there, which is what reality TV was. How do those brainstorming sessions look? You guys have music on, a little bit of booze, a little bit of weed. Is there a dry erase board?

What does your brainstorming sessions look like? Well, back then, I mean, you're talking 2003 or 2004. Yeah, no, we were in our old offices, and we were in my office. I had a big conference table in there, and we were all at the conference table just batting ideas back and forth. That was it. Music on? Are you a thinker? I do like music. I have music in my office all day, but, yeah, not back forth. That was it. Music on? Are you a thinker? I do.

I have music in my office all day, but not back then. Not back then. I wasn't fucking around back then. Now we need this to fucking work. Now it's like we know it's going to work. Yeah, it's two different mindsets. You're in the war room. I believe that's where you make their fights and everything like that. It feels like you guys are working every single weekend, so

congrats, by the way, on being all the way back. But also, it feels like every week you somehow have a stacked card. Thug Rose is back this weekend. Three out of the five fights are lightweight fights. It feels like you have a number one contender fight on the same exact night as the championship fight. This is going to be a fucking big one, Dana. Congrats

on another banger. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, the main and co-main are awesome. Chandler versus Ferguson. Shogun Hua is always fun to watch. He's fighting OSP. Cowboy and Lozon should be fun. And then there's a ton of great fights on the undercard, you know, with up-and-comers. Hey, what's up with the cowboy fight?

We want to see cowboy fucking win there, right? Is this what we're doing here? The other guy? Yeah. I mean, these are two guys that are at that time in their career, Lozon and Cowboy fucking win there, right? Is this what we're doing here? The other guy? Yeah. I mean, these are two guys that are at that time in their career, Lozon and Cowboy. You know, they're in the twilight, we'll say, of their career. And, you know, this is the type of fight I like to see with two veterans. You know, I'm not throwing any young savages at these guys right now.

Ah, okay. Dana, what do you expect to see with the Gaethje-Olivera fight? young savages at these guys right now. Dana, what do you expect to see with the Gaethje-Olivera fight? I think for any fight fan, anyone that's even a casual fan, watch this card but especially watch that. There may be some blood and guts. It's going to be fun. Yeah, that fight's going to be an absolute war. I mean, when are either one of them

ever in a boring fight? They're not. And Gaethje's in his home state trying to uh win a world title so i i expect it to be an absolute war hey whenever you're predicting the next year of life for you and we had uh jim mercy on yesterday and he was talking about going to the moon and the mars you know he said he's talking about how the future is going to be insane he's obviously the owner of the Indianapolis Colts. Whenever you think about the next year of

the UFC, how far out do you have to predict fights? For instance, we hear the rumblings about Jon Jones potentially getting back into the fight game. How far out are you predicting fights and promoting fights and setting things up with each individual Saturday event? Yeah, we have fights made all the way

up to August 6th right now. Damn. Do you drop like little seeds anywhere? Like do you set it up a little bit, like a little bit more story, or do you just expect all these guys to be big enough names to figure it out? You know, it depends. You know, there's guys that are going to fight on fight nights that are working their way up to make it to pay-per-views,

and then the pay-per-views are are for our stars and and the fights that we think are going to be the most exciting three months out how much change is there normally in that scheduling how much wiggle room is this normal to be three months out to book as long as the main event stays intact the rest of the card can switch up however it doesn't matter hey did you hear we beat covid too you guys even test them for that now to potentially change any fights or no no we're not testing for covid anymore we're not wearing masks we're not doing any of that shit hey let's go we did it we beat covid we beat it dana it was a long run but we fucking got here isn't it amazing it's it's amazing it's still around if you if you creep on to cnn every once

yeah i saw some a couple people driving past me with their masks on today and i'm like all right you're safer than everybody else you care more than everybody else i'm very proud of you i'm thankful for you they were fucking so crazy yeah it is it's insanity they're nice they're better people than you are though dana you never get it go ahead you got that right yeah dana the uh the way in ghanu and fury are talking it seems like that fight is kind of like a lock to happen are you involved in setting that up at all or no? Yeah, that fight's definitely not a lock. Hey, you hate that when that happened?

You hated it? Did you know it was coming? Yeah, I know. Listen, they've been talking about it and everything. I mean, guys, Fury is the best boxer, one of the greatest boxers of all time. I mean, you look at the guys that he's beaten and how easily he's beating them.

I don't know. We'll see how this whole thing plays out. I don't love the crossover fights. I don't love them. Why not? Just because you think you're taking somebody out of their, like, what they're supposed to be in and almost diminishing their legacy? Is that why?

Or because you just think? Because they're fucking stupid. Fucking waste of time, energy, and money. Yeah, I mean, listen. I don't know. It's just, it's silly, but I get it. You know, everybody wants to try to, you know, I don't know. I don't even know.

Francis is your champion. He's an absolute monster of a man. And if it goes the way they're setting it up, Tyson Fury boxing him with UFC gloves, that's a massive advantage for Tyson, I think is what you're trying to say. So you're like, is that why you're thinking like that? Boxing is a massive advantage for Tyson Fury. Yeah, but Gagne is... Boxing is a massive advantage for Tyson Fury. Yeah, but

boxing. Yeah. And Gagne just wrestled Cyril Gagne. So you're saying maybe not the fairest for both fighters here, and we're going to say this the ultimate heavyweight championship. Our guys kind of fucked. Is that what you're saying? I mean, if you know anything about

fighting, it's just a silly conversation. It's a silly conversation. How do you feel? Hey, you're right in the middle of all of this, though, because, you know, with the old fighters getting into the boxing game and then the Conor and Floyd thing that happened that you were a massive part of, which was a smashing success, I think that's only going to grow and grow. It feels like you are about over it already, it sounds like.

Well, the thing was is that the Floyd-Connor fight took on a life of its own. I mean, everywhere I went, that's all people were asking me about, you know. You know, it got to a point where the fans wanted to see that fight and the media wanted to see that fight. And you know me, you know, people aren't knocking our door down for this fight. Well, I know people are for this weekend. I know you've got a busy week. Congrats on the 30th season of The Ultimate Fighter debuting today and have an incredible weekend.

What's fucking Friday? What are we eating fucking Friday? Yeah, what am I eating for? Apple pie nachos. Oh, apple pie nachos. Oh, damn. Here we go! What a life.

Congrats to you, man. Good luck with everything. Thanks, boys. Have a great day. All right, Dana White, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah! Today's show is sponsored by the best ticket app on planet Earth and... The Moon!

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and shout out to Ticket Stooge. Thank you, Ticket Stooge. Thank you, Ticket Stooge. We appreciate you over here and SeatGeek does do an incredible job. Yeah, the piss testing process is wild. That guy's shaking his hand and fucking spilling the piss. That's ridiculous.

I've never seen anything like it. Like, the whole thing. Well, and if you were to have a mistest because of that, how does that work? You would have a good appeal, I'm guessing. Yeah, but then who's right? The guy that was drunk on the streets at 4 a.m. or this piss tester? I know. Wait a minute.

It's a terrible situation. I'm glad you could muster up another one. I was pretty good at pissing on command. I was pretty good. I've gotten pretty good at it. Yeah. I can let it eat just about anywhere. I guess there's people that can't.

Really? I can, yeah. Always been able to. Oh, people have stage fright and they can't pee in a public urinal? Yeah. What were they doing at the old troughs that they used to have at Three Rivers? Well, in Ohio, people jump into those. That's what Ohio people do.

What do you mean? Cleveland Browns games, Cleveland Guardians games. People are jumping in the troughs? Oh, yeah. Look it up. Just put Cleveland Trough. I bet you there will be like five videos. It's the Ohio thing to do.

It's like, oh, the Ohio Turnpike. You know what I mean? Oh, man. The only time I've been to Brown Stadium when I was playing there for the Packers in the Bengals, I believe. So you're saying you didn't jump in any trough. I don't think I would be sliding through a trough. Those are probably out-of-towners, too, not from Ohio.

They're probably from Ohio. Probably diehard fans. They got a big win, man. They're excited. What are probably out-of-towners, too, not from Ohio. They're probably from Ohio. Probably diehard fans. They got a big win, man. They're excited. What are you supposed to say? I think it was second quarter. Score a touchdown. Nice touchdown.

I just got disgusted thinking about it. Yeah, it's gross. Illusion in the fucking pass draft. Oh, my God. Asia's probably giving guys swirlies on that day.

When's the derby? When's the derby? This weekend? Yeah. Are you going, AJ? I'm not swirlies on that day. When's the derby? This weekend? Yeah. Are you going, AJ? I'm not going, no. Whoa. Friendship on the ropes?

Uh-oh. I don't think Aaron's going to be there, but there's a lot. Whoa. This is annual tradition. This is Devontae. This is not good. You've won 11 years in a row. This is not good.

I don't know if he has, has he? No, you and him. The odds are going to move for the Packers for sure I don't know if he has, has he? No, you and him. The odds are going to move for the Packers for sure. Remember the hand? Is this guy all right? Yeah, I remember him. What about your sack of cigars, dude? He might be going.

He might go. He's all right? Damn, he's not bringing you. I think he's all right. AJ just realized it. Wow, AJ. He's riding the adjudicator down to the... What did I just realize?

You said something wrong. Oh, he might go. Yeah. Oh, no. Talking about his personal life something wrong. Oh, he might go. Yeah. Oh, no. Talking about his personal life. I said I'm not going. Yeah, but if you're not going... Like I said, we've got a lot of stuff going on around here.

Oh, he hates you now. A lot of tournaments and out-of-town tournaments and stuff like that. All in the same room. I wonder who got your invite, you think? I don't know. That's a good question. We should brainstorm. AJ Dillon.

I don't know. Probably Mai good question we should brainstorm aj dylan probably my tie my tie's already there yeah i was gonna say he doesn't need a backup invite maybe christian watson look at aj and aaron connecting hands they're pretty cool i would like to let everybody know that this is what aaron looked like this time last year and then he go on to win an mvp remember the conversation was he looks very thin. Super skinny. That was the conversation. He looked very thin. He just got done with Pancho Karma.

That's right. Right before Kentucky Derby. He emptied the system out so he could get that mint juleps down there and have a good old time. What we should have realized is he probably held his hand up for, I don't know, 45 minutes because AJ loves taking photos. Probably made them take about 200 of them. And really, his stamina with his right arm was unmatched.

Yeah, and that's what led him to winning another MVP. Yes. So why aren't you going? I don't know. I've said 14 times before. A lot of different activities and tournaments happen. Sounds like a guy that didn't get invited. Probably the linebacker they drafted probably is what got him.

No, it's probably that Charles or James Chadwick. Christian Watson. Yeah, probably him. Yeah, and Quay Walker. Chris, Chad. One of them. Christian. I was going to get there at some point.

What's his name, Watson? Yeah, Christian Watson. North Dakota State. Yeah. Looks like a dog. Looks like a dog. He's probably going down at Kentucky Derby. Maybe.

Maybe. That's what this text was Kentucky Derby. Maybe. Maybe. That's what this text was about. Yeah, Watson's dad tells Dom Izzo, okay, Dom Izzo with the inside scoop, Dom Izzo, W-E-D-A-Y. Watson's dad tells me that the first person to text Christian after being drafted by Green Bay, Aaron fucking Rogers. Yeah. And the text actually said, hey, Christian, Kentucky Derby. AJ's Rogers. Yeah. The text actually said,

Hey, Christian, Kentucky Derby. AJ's out. One week. Fuck AJ Hawk. You're my new best friend. Let's go win a fucking Super Bowl after the Derby.

All right. He might've been that positive in that text, or maybe he says, we'll find out if it will be worth a fuck next week at the Kentucky Derby. Boom. Maybe it's like, this is a trial by combat situation. See how many mint juleps he can drink.

Oh, maybe. Or maybe how many he turns down. How many cigars does he start? Make sure you bring a bag of cigars is probably what Aaron said.

Oh, what if he doesn't bring a bag of cigars? You think he won't throw him the ball as much? No, I think he'd be alright. But yeah, that's a valuable position. You need to bring

something to the table and I would bring two big Ziplocs full of cigars. Hey, howdy baby. There you go. Mainly for myself, but yeah. Everyone else could have whatever they wanted.

Hey, in the cigar community, let's say you... I'm not in that community, but what about it? Come on, dude. Shut up. You're literally one of the faces of it. You were on Cigar Aficionado magazine November 2020. I very rarely ever have a cigar

with another human in the same room. Yeah, but you're having a cigar right now with a couple thousand people at a time. Yeah. I know.

I enjoy them. What about it? You have a cigar with 35,000 people? What the fuck are you doing? You people watching this. What is your deal? This has maybe been

our worst show yet. In a long, long time. They're all waiting for us to bring up Mr. Belding again. How do you keep such good complexion with smoking all the time? He's got good skin. Do you lotion a lot? It's not like cigs. Don't they mess up your skin if you smoke

for 40 straight years? No, cigs make you fucking invincible to everything. That's not true. That is misinformation on this program. Do not smoke cigs. There's no reason to smoke cigs. In the cigar community, though, let's say you and another cigar person meet at old

Jackie Danielson's down here. What's that one place called? Nikki Blaine's. Jackie Danielson. Nikki Blaine's. There's an N and E and L and S. Nikki Blaine's. We go down to Nikki Blaine's all right there's an n and e and l and s there's a lot of nikki blaine's we go down to nikki blaine's a cigar place downtown here can i just pull out my pre-roll in smoke is that like a okay thing or you like is that your pre-work pre-roll with marijuana or cbd in it yes you could try i don't know maybe they maybe they'll let it go if it smells like a cigar

but you cigar people wouldn't kick me out fuck then uh you think i'm gonna kick somebody out no i'm just saying is that like how you guys view it as a smoke sesh like people just hey you could come smoke anything is that how this i don't think no i don't think you can go in there and smoke cigs oh really that's bullshit so it's not like a smoker circle it's like no we are cigar smokers i think you can smoke either really at the cigar place i don't know jackie daniel no Really? At the cigar places? I don't know if Jackie Daniels wants people smoking cigs inside there. Come on, Jackie. Get it together. They smell the same.

Because there's a cigar person that doesn't do much that I wanted to invite to something. I was like, oh, maybe we could do just a cigar thing. But then it's like, can I just smoke my weed there, I wonder, as opposed to having to fake smoke these cigars to be a part of the conversation. And that was where I led into this whole thought. Like, I don't know if it's just a smoking thing. Like, you guys just like sitting around smoking and talking. I don't know.

I don't go to those. Like, I've been to a few. There's a place in Dallas I went with my buddy a year or two ago. It was awesome. You could sit down, and it's a really nice place. It's like a steakhouse, but you can sit there and smoke at your table. So we sat there. I had two cigars, got my food, had one after dinner. It was great a steakhouse, but you can sit there and smoke at your table. So we sat there. I had two cigars.

Got my food. Had one after dinner. It was great. Wow, three cigars in a two-hour period. That's unbelievable. That's amazing. Your stamina to blow through those things. Well, it was like a special occasion.

Like, it was a thing. I was like, all right, let's soak this in. Let's spend some time here. I've never been to a place like this. Yeah, that seems like a cool thing to be a part of. Like, people go to do coffee. They do this with coffee. It feels like cigar people do this. You know, like little gather it's like anything same thing with you and cbd right it brings people together it gives you a reason to

hang out instead of just hey let's just stand here and talk well that was what i was wondering can we join forces can i absolutely i think they should be they should all become one i think the cigar in the marijuana smoking community could become. See, I think personally. Seems like a more similar. Like in states that are legal, I think marijuana smokers would be pissed if you brought a cigar in and started smoking your cigar in their marijuana shop. Because it smells much different. I think if you want to do that, you'd have to maybe perhaps go back. I mean, you don't do this anymore. I can't fucking wait, by the way, to walk right down the street.

I'll take two pre-rolls, please, of the sativa right there. Give me that three-pack of edibles for today. I'll take a green tea, please, and a piece of gum. Thanks. And I will see you at this exact same time tomorrow. And I might need a refuel on this lighter in about a week and a half, two weeks. Thank you so much for everything. That's coming.

Yeah. That is coming. Maybe not to Indiana. Probably going to have to move for that. But that is coming around the corner. When I was getting weed just delivered to me at the hotel where I was, where was that, California? Weed showed up in a Tesla with a very nice person in a bag that had like a gift. Like it was Christmas delivered to me.

I was like, this is amazing. He built up a pretty good collection at the Super Bowl too out there. Yeah, yeah. You got to do that. Because you got to smoke it all in that state, obviously. Yep. You can't travel with it. But you got to take advantage of it as much as you possibly can because you don't want to have to.

You want to get to the point where it's like, oh, I don't want to smoke anymore when I go back to Indiana because it's not legal. Because I can't. Yeah, because I can't. Because I can't do that. Pretty – you want to get to the point where it's like, oh, I don't want to smoke anymore when I go back to Indiana because it's not legal. Because I can't. Yeah, because I can't. Because I can't do that. Pretty simple. We'll get there. Illinois, very legal. They'll take a trip there often.

Michigan, pretty close, also legal. Ohio, hey, you guys are getting sports gambling soon, right? You said we are, right? What does soon mean? You're there. I am here. Can you put up a pin that says Ohio? You're in Ohio right now. What are you you're there i am here can you put up a pin that says ohio like you're oh yeah you're in ohio right now what are you hearing do you not are they aren't you you know i do uh you

know drink my coffee and read the old school paper every morning i haven't seen much on it yet yeah but you're down at the chop house with the senators yeah i'm not but honestly i have no idea what's going on ohio you know way more than i do we do do not. Does General Bob Carpenter have any ideas? Does he have any insiders over there? I'd have to ask him. I don't know. Can we call General Bob right now? Call General Bob.

What do you think, General? Yeah, call him. Bob will probably answer. What do you think Bob's doing right now? Installing a beautiful new HVAC system. Does he have a class right now? Is he teaching? He might be teaching.

Professor Carp. Clanging and panging. With his TRT. Mm-hmm. What? Because it's TRT. Because it's TRT! Hoy! Hoy! Hoy!

TRT! Hoy! Hoy! Hoy! What's that, pal? So Bob and Schlegs Saturday. Schlegs actually told me about this really nice sled that I can put some weight on and walk backwards with, so I actually ordered it right there on the spot. Oh, really? Can you send me that link?

I'd like to buy that. How, how far do you have to walk with it? Well, no, it's a whole thing, but yeah, it's,

it's a thing I want to get into like the lever king. What do you put it outside or inside? I usually outside unless you have like a 50 yard field turf field in your house. What's your problem? Will you just send us the link so we can do it too? Sure. It's just a sled,

but it's a nice, it's a good sled that won't tear my yard. Perfect for the Thunderdome. Perfect for the Thunderdome. We'll be dragging those things from one baseline to the other. And, I mean, outside with the field. And also, we'll all be on TRT. Oi! Oi! Oi! TRT!

Oi! I'm never tired! Oi! TRT! Oi! Recover! First half! Oi! TRT. I'm never tired. TRT. Recover. First hand. TRT. My head is red. TRT. You guys have a five-man set outside too?

No, he's not in any bags out there that I've seen. None of them were set up because he had to have the cult carnival set up. When are you going to force Axl in the weight room like you did your other kids? I see none of them were set up because he had to have the cult carnival set up. Yeah. When are you going to force Axl in the weight room like you did your other kids? I don't force any of them in there. That's not true. They like to get around. They like to mess around and pick up weights and do push-ups and stuff.

Hey, if you want to talk to Dad ever, you're going to have to come fucking move some weights. They love coming down the weight room. It's the first thing they do when they get up. That's why I know they're up. They'll come down and throw stuff around. That's what's up. What time are you getting into that weight room every morning? I know it they do when they get up. That's when I know they're up. They'll come down and throw stuff around. What time are you getting into that weight room every morning? I know it's different. I don't set an alarm. I do set an alarm. I absolutely do. I mean

between 5 and 5.15. They come down at like, sometimes they come down at like 6, which they're supposed to wait, but yeah. They like to clang and bang in the morning. They're supposed to wait. Dad needs until at least 6.30. All right, Dad needs a little bit more time.

What time is the alarm? 5 o'clock? I change it every day. That's psychotic. That's what we were just talking about. 5.03, 5.07, 5.12. I like that. Yes.

Okay, so I'm sorry I even asked in the 5 o'clock era. It is in that time period, though. Okay, so one snooze, no snooze Yeah I'll snooze every once in a while For sure Exhausted though But like snooze Usually if I set my alarm early

Like 5.03 boom Turn that one off I'll set one for 5.12 And then get up and go Okay so you're not even snoozing You're setting two alarms already ahead of time No no no I won't hit snooze I'll turn that alarm off i'll set in one for 5 12 and then get up and go okay so you're not even snoozing you're setting two alarms already ahead of time you don't know no no i don't i won't hit snooze i'll turn that alarm off okay boom yeah yeah let's do 10 11 more minutes and then i'll set another one and then i'll get up you're not living on their time you set your own fucking time i get it okay no clock is gonna wake you up or no no countdown's gonna wake you up i get it you

exhausted when you get up yeah fucking exhausted dead tired are you yeah okay Yeah, I wish as I got older, you got easier and easier. You know how a lot of people are older. They go, I can't sleep past five if I wanted to. I'm like, well, I definitely could. That's not me. I could. 5 a.m. is fucking wildly early, though. You know that.

Yeah, it is. But like. For somebody that doesn't have to. It's not. It definitely helps me, especially as I get older. If I get to sleep at a decent time. I wake up very easily then. But if I don't fall asleep until late, which happens a lot, then it's a little harder. So you're running on like five hours, four hours of sleep every single day.

You're wondering why you're falling asleep while you're driving. Yeah. Some people. Yeah, I wake up exhausted. You should see me when I get behind the wheel. I'm fucking dead tired, dude. I'm fucking dead tired. Do you have your gym outfit laid out the night before?

Or are you going to figure that out in the morning when you wake up? I mean, I don't have a gym outfit. What do you wear? I just wear clothes and go. That's what I mean. You don't match for it. You got to start posting these. You got to start posting on Instagram.

I did have my tuxedo t-shirt on working out the other day, and my wife and her friends came in because they come a couple days a week with a dude and work out. So I didn't realize I had it on. How big is your gym? It's not very big. I know I leave. I got to be done by the's not very big. So you know, I leave. I got to be done by the time they get it.

Oh, you can't take it. You fucking hate everything they do. You hate. No, no, I just don't want to. That's my time. I don't want to be messed. I'm not talking to people like that. That's legit.

My I'll freak out if I don't have that time. So you wake up five or three to five twelve ish. Get down to the gym. Five fifteen. No later than that. Yeah, usually when you the lights on at five15, are you doing a pre-workout? Are you sitting down motivating yourself? Are you jumping right the fuck in?

Jumping right? Are you kidding me? I'm going right. No, I don't mess around. What am I, wasting time? Well, I thought you said, let's go stretch your low. No pre-workout. No coffee?

Don't you watch Gary Vee's morning walk talk and then you start working out? I can do that while I'm doing like old man cardio if I want. Okay, so you start with old man cardio? Yeah, usually like some incline walk, old guy, maybe sprint on the elliptical, jump over to the versa, and then boom, start jacking some weights. And this is as soon as you wake up, you're doing this? 515? Yeah, I mean, some days I feel better than others, though. You know that. Okay, I do know that because everybody I guess does. You're working out until 630. The kids, though, fucking can't. They can't take, though. You know that. Okay, I do know that because everybody I guess does. You're working out till 6.30.

The kids, though, fucking can't. They can't take a clue. Get the fuck. They sometimes come in at 6, 6, 6.30. Yeah. But that doesn't mean we're done. Then I just have to manage a little bit. Hey, don't cut your fingers off when you're trying to pick up the dumbbells and stuff like that.

Oh, you're working out till 7? Yeah, usually because 7 is when the kids need to be up if they're not okay so then breakfast is upstairs immediately following that yeah run up there and do all that yeah seven do all that uh get them ready for school yeah which is a task in itself yeah four kids getting ready for school book bags that are 700 pounds yeah geez okay so that's going 7 7 30 7 45 yeah get out i usually get out we we take's going 7-7-30, 7-45? Yeah. I usually get out. We take off by 7-40 at the latest. Okay, 7-40.

You're going dropping them off at school. You're coming back at 8 o'clock and doing what? Murdering people? I mean, I wish 8 o'clock. No, with COVID, they started going to a different school a couple years ago. So it's a little bit of a haul to take them all to school. Oh, yeah. That's right.

AJ said if I have to get my kids jabbed, then I'm switching schools. Nope. When COVID started last year, when COVID started, their school was shut down. It was all virtual. So we said they want to be in class. So we went to a place that was in class the whole time. Yeah, the kids and the parents want the kids to be in class. So we are going to get one.

No one's learning sitting on a Zoom. No one. No. No one. Who wants to teach that way either? you're back 8 45 9 o'clock from dropping off the kids at their super nice school that was back before everybody else because they said what's covered i mean if it's yeah i don't know if i if i come back home after that or not oh what are you doing you're gonna get a little brunch a little breakfast you gotta get

whatever if you gotta get stuff done i gotta go meet with people or do something before i come back and get ready for the show but sometimes though if i feel like i got cut off in my workout in the morning like a couple days a week when my wife comes in at 6 30 and i feel like i'm not done that's when i come back in and gotta finish finish up this fucking trainer my wife her friends this trainer doing their fucking bullshit i like them all no no i like her friends in the trainer i used to work out with all the time he is an absolute freak of nature. He's a monster. I love him and he knows that too.

But like, I don't need to, you know, I'm not doing the same things they're doing. It's not a big weight room. All right. I'm trying to start my morning routine so I can, you know, become a guy. What time do you actually go to bed? Are you going to bed at midnight? No, I don't go to bed. I'll lay down before that no fall

sleep fall asleep yeah i don't fall asleep before midnight that often you're an absolute psychopath that's insane you're awesome no i mean i definitely want to and i try to but it just doesn't happen very often you know getting kids like getting them to bed which we try to get them to bed decently early but we have a ton of sports and stuff so we get home late do you drink coffees all day i used to drink a lot more coffee than i do uh some days i don't drink any coffee some days i do what do you say you're just on hgh no i drink this little this little mixture to aminos and spark and everything i like that all day you drink that i'll sip on it and add ice to it all day yeah oh that's awesome just drinking an energy drink basically all day that's healthy for you though

what's spark a street drug sparks that's old school drew brees advocare what spark i make a little it's i make a mixture of some arginine and everything yeah oh here we are this guy arginine not being tested for by the nfl how about uh anything yeah it's a muscle repair it's yeah it's legal yeah yeah it's a muscle repair yeah i drink it's legal. Yeah, yeah. It's a muscle repair. Yeah. It tastes good. I drink it because it tastes good. Of course. It's not like it gets me all jacked up. Oh, yeah. Oh, kind of.

You sip on it all day to keep you jacked up. Make sure you don't fall asleep. Because it tastes good. Yeah. Well, I mean, I grew up drinking Mountain Dew in bed. Like, caffeine doesn't do it for a while. Yeah, I was actually going to ask, do your kids drink pop? They would love to.

We don't let them drink a ton of it, but they love having Sprite every once in a while. I feel like that's definitely changed. We used to drink so much pop. So much. So much. I used to order the big 30 cube of Pepsi or Mountain Dew and drink all the cans. Oh, yeah.

I'm a big Sprite guy now. It's so good. It's so good. It's so delicious. It is the perfect one. I drank Mountain Dew, obviously, throughout periods whenever everybody was house of Mountain Dew, and it gave you that caffeine high.

That was just absurd. Dr. Pepper had a little bit of a run with me I think. McDonald's Coke really had a run. Wheat tea had a run with me there for a bit although it's a completely different conversation and that should be mixed with lemonade. Third lemonade, two thirds iced tea I think is the proper mixture but Sprite

seems to have it all figured out I think. Did you make Shirley Temple? Put grenadine in there? Oh, delicious. Just a splash. My kids do that if we go out to eat sometimes. Can you get a special drink? And you get a dirty Shirley? A what? A dirty Shirley.

No. Shirley Temple without alcohol. I went to a bar mitzvah when I was a kid and they had Shirley Temple. It was the first time I'd ever heard of grenadine or Shirley Temple and I've been hooked ever since. Ohah when I was a kid, and they had Shirley Temples. It was the first time I'd ever heard of Grenadine or Shirley Temples, and I've been hooked ever since. Oh, so you're a Shirley Temple guy?

I mean, I don't really have them ever, but they are so good. Okay. I would. Nick, you remember when I had that woo-woo run? Oh, yeah. Woo-woo. Woo-woo. Makes all the – Yeah, it's like cranberry, vodka, and I think they had some sort of peach something. Woo-woo. I used to say, can I get a woo-woo. Makes all that, yeah. Yeah, it's like cranberry, vodka, and I think they had some sort of peach something.

Woo-woo. I used to say, can I get a woo-woo? Just because I enjoyed ordering it, you know what I mean? Yeah. Everybody thought, it's an actual name of a drink, though. Woo-woo. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I couldn't even imagine walking in.

Can I get five Shirley Temples? That had to feel so cool. Like saying, can I get a hundred woo-woos for me and all my friends? That was a blast. That was a good era. God. A bartender would look at him like he had ten friends? That was a blast. That was a good era. God. The bartender would look at him like he had 10 heads. What?

Good God. It's coming down outside. I think there's a lot of woo-woos falling on us right now. There's a hail warning for today. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. All right. Let's get out of here.

I appreciate everybody being so nice to me the last day and a half on the internet. If you can stop, be mean up. Be a lot better. Go back. Go back. We got all the announcements of the winners tomorrow, winning Wednesday. Thanks to our friends at Cash App.

Hell yeah. Go to SeatGeek, buy tickets for something. This summer is going to be awesome. We might as well get experience. It's been a couple years. We haven't been able to really live, live. Go out and live, live. Yeah.

Live, live. How about Dana White? He wanted to get into a COVID discussion there. Oh, yeah. I almost mentioned when he said CNN, I almost said something about CNN Plus that shut down after three weeks. I'm sure he would have been juiced. That's unbelievable

stuff. I mean, just as somebody that pays attention to the digital world because I have to, you know, because there's a lot of conversations that are happening. $300 million. Less than 10,000 subscribers or something like that. Mm-hmm. That's a tough one. People are paying $300 million for less than 10,000 or something like that i don't know that's a tough one people are paying 300 million dollars for less than 10 000 subscribers that's what i heard that's unbelievable they paid 300 million to launch the whole thing

right yeah think about how inept you have to be think about that you got to be so dumb cost like nine million a day so you know a a guy named Logan Roy once said to a psychologist or a psychiatrist or whatever, how the fuck am I supposed to trust a word that you're saying when you just dove headfirst into the shallow end of a pool and broke your face? That's what we should maybe think about to some of these people of, hey, how the fuck are we supposed to take you serious when you spent $300 million and weren't able to get 10,000 people to watch your shit? Like, I think we should start doing it, not just in this particular case, okay? And this seems very, very direct.

But I think we should do that as a whole. Most like, hey, you, insert name of terrible decision or thing, terrible idea that you have had and absolutely failed. I'm going to treat you as such. And that has kind of been an interesting thing through all these negotiations, you know, with me and my conversations with people. Didn't you put, insert name of person here, on something here and think it was going to be a home run?

Yeah, okay. So there has been some things that have been decided by you that haven't worked out, right, I'd assume. That's quite an interesting thing. Can I get past working with somebody that has done that? I don't know. I don't know if I can. That's on me.

I'm sorry. That's whenever I go to bed at night, you know, when I'm laying around. That's what I have to think about, and it's a gift and a curse. Sounds awesome. Sounds like we can move forward, but also that chapter's always going to be there for you, and that's an interesting thing. I don't know what to do.

That's tough. It's very tough. You've got to own it. They have to own it and somehow give you an explanation of why it happened. But the guy that started that is gone. He had to step down from CNN. He got bought by whoever. Of course. Well, he stepped down

because of other reasons, not CNN Plus. But yeah. Was he cranking it? No. What's his name? Yeah, he was having like a relationship with a worker or something. Classic. Classic. Of course I know about it.

The head of CNN had to step down. It was a giant deal. I don't pay attention to that stuff. Nope. I know. I'm just saying. Thank you. I'm trying to bring a perspective here.

Okay. Well, thank you for informing me of that piece of information. Thank you. You're welcome. informing me of that piece of information. Thank you. You're welcome. I have to be terrible to negotiate with now that I'm thinking about it.

Well, could you imagine? I mean, all you have to do is accept the previous decisions you've made, so if those are the decisions you've made, it's not your fault. But what about the decisions we've made? I mean, look what we've done. I haven't even thought about that. I should think about that more often.

All right, I'm going to brainstorm. Let's continue to brainstorm. Hell yeah. We'll continue to evolve and get better. Hell yeah. How much jerky do you eat when you're on keto? Well, that's the thing. I'm on keto, so.

Unlimited. You're going to be so sick of keto by about 6 p.m. You don't understand keto. Wait, why aren't you doing that? I thought you liked the intermittent fasting. I did, but, dude, I eat so much in that little window it doesn't like you know cancels can you fill up on enough like meat with that like it sometimes it's hard you can eat five steaks and not get full so sam has this incredible keto cookie that has like uh one and a half gram per or two grams per so normally i'll have like

five of those at the end of the night because my sweet tooth comes in and kills me but i guess you try to stay under 20 grams of carbs a day is really the if you want to go and get it i mean i think that kim kardashian she was on ketosis for, she lost 16 pounds or something like that. Yeah, wow. She lost 16 pounds to wear the dress that she wore to the Met Gala because it was Marilyn Monroe's. Marilyn Monroe. So she went on ketosis, lost 16 pounds to get into that dress or something like that. I didn't know that.

Did you learn that on her new Hulu show? No, it was on the internet fucking everywhere. This Met Gala thing happened last night. Oh, yeah. What is this? Can somebody explain? AJ, you know what this is. Was Tom Brady there?

Hey, was this the actual, was this the thing that? Lenny Kravitz. That's Lenny Kravitz, yep. Dressed like a normal 55-year-old. At the Met, for sure. So can we zoom in on that photo there? So this is the Met. What is this, AJ?

You've probably been invited to this numerous times. What is it? It's the gathering of the elites of the elite. It's supposed to be a fundraiser. It's a fashion thing, though, right? This is a big time in the fashion community. Show off. What happens inside, though?

Well, I don't know. Has anybody ever been told? Are there performances? Is he performing tomorrow? Is he performing in that outfit at the thing? I don't think so. I think it's like a dinner charity event type deal, but it just is like of the hoity-toity people. Who speaks?

Like, does he give a speech? I think there's like a president of the Met. Oh, who's that? Or chairman. It's a cocktail hour and a formal dinner. Yes. What is that? Is that Nick Lachey?

Who is that? That's the Winter Soldier. I don't know his name. Sebastian Stein. There it is. Can you go full screen on these? Is he from O-Town? Oh, my God.

When to? No. Was that O-Town? What was O-Town? O-Town. Girls in the Summer, right? Abercrombie and Fitch? No, that's LFO.

God, this could be LFO, though. We don't know. What is this? This is a Captain America? Yeah, he's a superhero. Winter Soldier. He also played Tommy Lee and Pam and Tommy. Bro, he looks so fucking cool right here.

Yeah. Are those another pair of sunglasses in his hand? I believe that's one shoe. In the back? Who are all the photographers in the tuxes? That's just the entire paparazzi world? Yeah. This is their Super Bowl, too?

They got to dress up. So are we trying to get back to the old school boxy suits or what? I don't know. Let's go to the next person. Let's see. Okay. Is that Michael Phelps? Bad Bonnie.

That's Bad Bonnie. Bad behind. A lot of people were asking if this was Mitt. That does look like Mitt, doesn't it? Yeah. Mitt, Bad Bonnie in San Benito. So is there two people there? Is he like standing on somebody's shoulders?

No. No, this is just the style. There's a few that are kind of like this. He looks awesome. Yeah. Russell Westbrook was there. Yeah, we've seen him. There he is.

There's Brody. He's wearing a kilt. Yeah, looks like a kilt. And a top hat. A kilt and a top hat there. Looks sweet. Looks like Wonka. That ain't Willy Wonka.

Do you get a prize for winning the fashion? Finding out now. Dwayne Wade's Super miami right here with the cane and everything yeah oh he looks awesome i don't think there's a prize i think it's judged the next day as best and worst looks of the mecca oh like what we're doing right now yeah so there's no prize there for the best look best dress no so they're not giving out awards to each other don't isn't that what all these people do they like getting around each other And giving awards to each other Apparently they made up to 2021 They made $16.4 million

$30,000 tickets And the tables are $200,000 That's how much that chain cost by the way $16.4 million These stars they're not paying the $200,000 They're invited right I'm guessing that's how they get the other people to come, right? $650,000

chain that he wore and it's part of three chains. Let's go. It's probably just for the event. A lot of the stuff they wear is just for the event. Zoom in on that right photo. After $650,000... That's as far as I can go. After $650,000...

It feels so heavy on the neck. It feels so heavy on the neck. Feels so heavy on the neck. Feels like he bought that. We saw his fucking closet, dude. Yeah, he might have. The baby OBJ. Is that Lizzo? Yeah, with the flute.

Hell yeah. Did she play that at all? How come I'm not a man of me? Don't tell me I'm not a man of me. Wait till she turns around. She got her cheeks out like she did at the Lakers game? No way. I'll find out more, though.

She was cheeks out at that Lakers game. Oh, yeah. If she did that at the mat, they would have kicked her out. That's future. Is that a kilt? I think it's a one-piece. Yeah. These are our shorts.

It's hard to tell from here. Is that the penguin back? Fucking mask off. Is that the penguin uh back fucking mask off is that chainmail gloves oh yeah those gloves match the dress in the back there you can just wear whatever the hell you want obviously well it's fashion you don't fashion you don't get it there's like a theme every year and i forgot elon musk was there whoa who's classyy. Is that his alien mom? I think that is his mom. That's his mom?

So she's not real either. Take me to that planet, Elon. Whoa, because he's from what? South Africa? Can we go back to Elon? Hold on. That looks awesome. He's a bro. He's a bro.

So Elon Musk, does he always go to the Met? Because don't all these people hate him, right? All those people told him. At least publicly they do. Yeah. Well, and I don't know if you remember last year, AOC wore a Tax the Rich dress to the Met. So I think a lot of times not everybody's on the same page.

Oh, you're saying all Fugues. Everything Fugues. Yeah. A lot of Fugues. Elon Musk, not Fugues. That's an alien and that's his mom alien. Yep. What if that was just his brew from the other planet just came back? That be sick i just need you to dress up like my mom tonight is that cool yeah

got your brew and he slides into the head goes into the dress i assume too when he goes to these now now that he owns twitter and he knows that every hey i know all your guys's stuff on your twitter so don't you even think about coming at me oh i am the captain now i'm the captain now i am the captain now of the Met. That's why I would dress just as normal as possible. What's he going to find? He's wearing a tux or a loser. Okay.

Yes. I love it. That's the last one. Pretty sweet. Yeah, Kid Cudi looks sick. Zoom in on that. He doesn't smoke weed anymore, right? I don't think so.

I think he's back on it. Is he back? I think so. That a baby kid. Thank you, Cudi. Appreciate you, Cudi,'s back. Is he back? I think so. That a baby kid. Thank you, Teddy. Appreciate you, Teddy, coming back. He looks awesome. Yeah, it's an awesome cape.

Is that what you're wearing, AJ, when you get invited? Look at the wrist. What's that called? The designer? Cumberbund? The puff? No, the loose wizard sleeve. I thought it was old-timey.

Old-timey sleeves? Old English? Old English sleeves? Yeah. What would you wear? Me? Yeah. Probably this.

That's probably what I'd wear. I think that plays. Black pants, I think, though. Probably cowboy boots. Maybe break out the WrestleMania tank. Oh, yeah, with the shinies on. And then the bow tie around your bare neck. Imagine all the fashion people like, oh, my God, look at that.

Look at this. What are you wearing? Very modern with a touch of nostalgia. Unbelievable. One chain. He's got cowboy boots on, which act as a natural height advance. They take that shit so seriously. You actually probably would get mad props.

Look, this guy's a fucking legend He's a superstar Simple yet refined I would wear probably black tux pants Black tank top from Wrestlemania Probably Wrestlemania tank top Cayman Crocs Bow tie for sure

That's going to have a little glitz and glamour And I think definitely a cane I think a cane seems like the right one That cane by the way is going to have a little glitz and glamour. And I think definitely a cane. I think a cane seems like the right one. That cane, by the way, is going to flip into a bong. Oh. That'd be sweet. Yeah.

One hitter? Wiz was all pissed. They wouldn't let him go because he wasn't allowed to smoke weed there. They won't let Wiz Khalifa smoke weed. That's what I saw. Let the fucking guy smoke some dope. Jesus Christ. Is everything else going on in that fucking room? Yeah.

Let the guy smoke some ganja, huh? It's Wiz Khalifa. Is that why he didn't go? He would have came in something. He is yoked right now. He is strapped up right now. He probably would have done with D-Wade. Yeah, the shirtless under there.

That's super fashionable. Was Jay Glazer there? I think he was reporting. He's not taking photos. No, definitely not. Jay knows all those people, though. It looks like Wiz was smoking a Jay on the red carpet of the Met Gala in 2017,

and they didn't want that to happen again. So he's never been invited back? I don't know. That's awesome. They're just like, how dare he? How dare this man smoke on our red carpet? Banish for life.

Watching Succession, it's hard not to just assume every human that's in that upper echelon is just like all of them. Yeah. Which is pretty awesome. Inspiring. And great entertainment. Oh, yeah. We're out of here. Hammer, done.

Done. Done. He's in about 15, 20 minutes. Big thanks to Dana White and Ruppert for joining us. Let's remember hockey's happening. That's right. The NBA's happening. Here we go. We'll have two editions of T4 tomorrow. Can't wait for that. AJ's breaking news

tomorrow as well. Ain't that right? Yeah, Wednesday's usually a big day that I get all the info from all my people. Alright, that's awesome. Can't wait to hear what it is. We'll see you all tomorrow. You're the best. Bye. Thank you. Gjøra på en.sdimedia.com Teksting av Nicolai Winther Gå inn på www.sdimedia.com Thank you.