The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 659 - Michael Chandler, Darius Butler, Quentin Richardson, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 9, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about everything going on in the world including Dick Strike's magnificent run to win the Kentucky Derby as an 80-1 underdog, Elon Musk's cryptic tweet about dying, Papa John Schnatter's comments about his discussion with Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones about wanting Roger Goodell to be fired, WrestleMania Backlash, Richard Sherman's thoughts on Kenny Pickett's hand size, the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard trial, and much more. Joining the show to chat about his massive knockout of Tony Ferguson this weekend and calling out Conor McGregor in his promo after the fight, is UFC Lightweight Superstar and friend of the progrum, Michael Chandler (13:58-31:25). Next, 9 year NFL veteran, host of the Man-To-Man Podcast, and friend of the progrum, Darius Butler joins Pat and AJ Hawk to chat about the F1 event this weekend in Miami and how the experience was, and everything that's happening around the NFL right now (43:45-1:13:19). Later, 13 year NBA Veteran, co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast with Darius Miles, and friend of the show, Quentin Richardson joins Pat and AJ Hawk to chat about the NBA Playoffs, why there have been so many issues with fans and players as of late, who he likes to win the NBA Championship, and why Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all-time (1:28:07-1:44:33). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is Monday, May 9th, 2022. And this sports show shall commence immediately following this beat drop from Twine. Bang! Yeah! There it was. Here we go. The boys just made incredible noises over there to signify that they are excited for this show to begin. The Toxic Table looks fantastic.

At Ty Schmidt. At Boston Connor. Connor, I see you wearing a head of the table shirt. Yeah, I mean, it was an unbelievable performance by the Bloodline. They're too good. You know, sometimes you just watch them wrestle, and you get kind of encapsulated by the greatness. Randy was robbed.

Randy was robbed. And granted, the RKOs, you know, they hit unbelievably. How about the Superman? Into the RKO. It was magnificent. Corey Graves had a great line about that. He said, Randy quite literally beat Superman to the punch there when he hit him with an RKO instead of the Superman punch.

And I almost said on the microphone, wow, that was incredibly clever. That was incredibly clever right there. I got a chance to call alongside Corey and Michael Cole last night. Obviously, we're referring to WrestleMania backlash, which was backlash from WrestleMania that happened a month ago or whatever. It's cold alongside Corey. I'm like cold last night. Obviously, we're referring to WrestleMania backlash. Hell yeah. Which was backlash from WrestleMania. Unreal. That happened a month ago or whatever.

It was a great night. Great time. Rhode Island. What a place. What a place. You gotta love Rhode Island. Yeah, good people. Good energy.

Is that the little one? Yeah, tiny, right? Small estate, I believe. Small estate. The arena was packed. Okay. Yeah. A lot of people in there.

Very loud. A lot of wickets. Thing was pretty dope in there. Super accents in Rhode Island. Really? Yeah, I think so. My driver had one of the most. One of the most.

Gotta love that. I did. I enjoyed it greatly. I was laughing at every... We're trying to have small talk, but I was laughing at everything he was saying because of the words, the way it was coming out.

I say it sounds like I'm talking to a fucking movie right now. That's what it feels like I'm talking to. Great person. Great people. Great night. Can't thank you all enough. If you watch, congrats to the Bloodline right now. That's what it feels like I'm talking to. Great person, great people, great night. Can't thank you all enough. If you watch, congrats to the Bloodline. Yeah. Great win.

Congrats to Madcap Moss. Thank God. And congrats to the new Smackdown Women's Champion Ronda Rousey. Way to go, Ronda. Fun night in Rhode Island. Hope everybody enjoyed their weekend.

Happy Mother's Day to everybody's mom. Happy Mother's Day to everybody in here, mom, and significant others, and everything that's got going on. Hope you enjoyed it. At Tone Diggs, one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys is here. You look fantastic, pal.

Thank you, pal. Getting ready for summer. Hey, listen, it's 80 degrees outside today in Indianapolis. Let's go. Let's level it. I think we have finally turned the corner. I believe we have made the switch. This is no longer a

four-season state that we live in. This is winter and summer, and we have finally made the switch to summer. Oh, the old light switch. Used to be four seasons. This is now a light switch season city. Light switch season area. You go from winter to summer. There was a little bit of a spring there.

It was really cold. It was really hot. It was really cold. It was really hot. But 80 degrees, I'll tell you what, boys, we are not going to like this about a week from now. I can already tell. I can already tell. It was a little thick.

I could already start to sense the humidity. And beggars can't be choosers. We've been begging for warm weather for a long time and for sunshine and for good vibes and good feelings. And that's what I think we are because the summer, guess what? The summer brings the fall. Yeah.

And guess what's in the fall? NFL football. Hell yeah. 121 days. Fall brings rain. Rain brings corn. Corn makes whiskey. Whiskey makes my baby.

Feel the whiskey. Rain's a good thing. I'm done with the rain. I'm excited for the sun. And that's what we have today. And not only do we have the sun outside and warm weather right around the corner, we have three massive guests today. Michael Chandler, fresh off the boot to the face of Tony Ferguson on Saturday night.

He'll be joining us in about 10 minutes. Can't wait to chat with him. That first round was gruesome. Yeah, battle. It really was. Yeah. I watched it back. I mean, Chandler gets knocked down there with a big left. Ferguson obviously has the reach and the height advantage. Catches him clean right on the nose. Does this dude have a broken nose? That had to have been a broken nose. I was watching. It knocked him down. He gets back up. He ends up tackling him, taking him down, fucking ground and pound. It was awesome. But I don't know how these dudes don't just break every bone in their body

every single fight. Just a glancing elbow to the face. How does that not bust you open every single time? Now everybody's obviously talking about the Thug Rose fight, which was not as electrifying as ever. Cerebral. Very cerebral. Cerebral battle.

Now, granted, we had a boost for that thing not to go to the judges. And it seemed like very early on, everybody was like, this one's going to go the whole way. Unless somebody just has a heart attack from cardio. Right. This thing is probably going to last the entire time. Never could have expected it. Congrats to all the winners.

Can't wait to talk to Chandler. Beautiful boot for the brand. Land that thing right on the jaw. Took that thing a little swing. I mean, what a connection. Turned Tony Ferguson into a senior citizen. Yeah, that's absurd. I think his face is made out of Play-Doh.

Bang! Then we got Darius Butler joining us in the second hour. He was at the F1 race down in Miami. He got a chance to experience that. Big F1 fan from South Florida, I assume. He really enjoyed all these festivities. Shout out to F1, by the way. Fucking killed it.

F1 people. Everyone was there. There was a tweet that said Stephen Ross is going to make the same amount of money that he makes for an entire NFL season just hosting this one event. Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio, who has a, it feels like an inside source on all the type of shit that you would never think that people would have an inside source on, like finances.

By hosting an F1 event on Sunday, Dolphins owner Stephen Ross reportedly will make as much money as he does by hosting an entire NFL season. That's unbelievable. Wild. One day, you get Tom Brady taking a picture with Michael Jordan, Lewis Hamilton, and David Beckham, then that is just four of the goats that are roaming around.

You have every single sport, genre, bucket of humans, greatest people, all strolling around the fucking garden down there for F1. I mean, they have done an incredible job of marketing themselves that netflix documentary obviously took off people got interested racing at that type of speed can be electrifying and intense especially if you've got good personalities and good money behind it f1 might steep miami might be hey there's gonna be an f1 event probably in la oh yeah there's gonna be an f1 event probably somewhere else i mean anywhere that

all the big money motherfuckers go to, that is where F1 will head to. And congrats to them. Yeah, unreal. I think they sold it to somebody recently. They sold it like within a week. All because of the Netflix thing? I think.

I honestly believe that is the case. Now, the super rich yuppies have always heard about it, right? Because they've always been in there. Like, I've had some friends who have been invited to, what, Monaco or something. Yeah, that's the spot. That's the big one. The super, like, oh, I'm going to Monaco.

For what? An F1 race. The fuck is an F1 race? Don't know, but Rolex is flying me out there. I'm like, Rolex is doing deals now? And it's like, yeah, all the super high-end, everything you've ever heard of. Rolls-Royce is involved.

I mean, like, all the high-end people are involved in it. I assume it's a super expensive thing to operate. Can a track go anywhere? Like is it just man-made for all those? So I know this one was, I think. So was the one in Vegas, I think. Yeah, like that's probably part of the reason why they will expand a bunch because it looks like you don't need to build this out.

It's not a massive project. Like they just had the blueprints for what they wanted to do and over the course of however many months like set up the track right around the dolphin stadium and couldn't you they do cities too don't they yeah they use the streets yeah yeah so i mean can't come to indy no you want to see who's the fucking best driver who can survive one trip around in that f1 car if you can survive one trip around indianapolis with those f1 tires i would be very impressed yeah i almost lost it i almost fell in a moat today no no driving down i accidentally wasn't looking at the road for a second don't fucking do that no you're gonna be dialed in like you're lewis fucking hamilton yeah when you're driving

around indianapolis because you are on the move i i honestly was like oh shit if i didn't miss that one i'm thinking there's a chance my car just does like a fucking front one-handed handstand yeah bumper car all the way in right here in indianapolis what do you know so i don't know if we'll get an f1 race but it looked like a lot of fun in miami we'll talk to darius butler about that third hour we'll have quentin richardson joining us host of the knuckleheads podcast he is obviously nba og nba vet the nba had a great weekend guess who's back james harden had 31 yesterday or something like that and the step back was just as pure as it was in houston i mean that could be a great team to watch doc rivers was on hot seat just a few weeks ago right now they're all the way back in this thing and joel and beads wearing a hilarious mask yeah so

that's marketable that's a good thing i can't wait to hear what's going on around basketball little wayne said luca ho yeah what's up why is little wayne saying luca a ho not a compliment i don't think it's getting called a ho not good i didn't know sometimes things change i actually almost dropped that on wrestlemania backlash last night but i didn't know what level ho is yeah am i allowed to say ho in the cock, peacock? I don't know. I'm not 100% sure. But I almost said,

just like Lil Wayne said about Luka earlier, insert name of person, acting like a real Ho. Happy Corbin. I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't really know how that would go, but why didn't he like Luka?

I thought Luka was a dog. I thought we liked Luka. I thought he was a dog, too. I thought we liked him. Well, he is a dog. I assume he's just like a Chris Paul, Devin Booker guy. And that's the big story. How about the Dallas Mavericks folks pushing Chris Paul's family?

Yeah. Both. That kid. The white that did the pushing? You mean Foxy's generation kid? Whoa. I saw Chris Paul say something to him. Chris Paul, very direct to him.

I don't know if he said, I will beat the fuck out of you. I don't know what he said. I didn't hear the exact words. Catch you outside. Yeah, he said, I'll see the fuck out of you. I don't know what he said. I didn't hear the exact words. Yeah, he said, I'll see you later. Okay, so he would have, by the way. Oh, yeah. With that little fray, a little white that was doing all the bullshit on the outside that has caused quite a disturbance in the entire NBA playoffs right now

because he's being a drunk doofus in Dallas. That can't happen, pal. Yeah, and Charles Barkley, I think, said it on the post-game show. Like, hey, what they need to do is just have Chris Paul and that kid, center court, five minutes, no holds bar. Essentially, Ronda Rousey versus Charlotte Flair, but at center court for five minutes. And listen, get the hockey sticks out.

Yeah, sure. Okay, have everybody stay in the circle just like in hockey. That's right. Get some stick taps. And then fucking body bag the guy that's going to get body bagged by Chris Paul. Drag him out. Everybody back to their benches, let's get back into this thing.

That's easy. Yeah, what's wrong with that? Look at that. Jimmy Butler would do that. Oh, yeah. Brody, imagine Russell Westbrook and that guy from Utah standing right in the middle of that thing. Oh, my God, he'd be beating a Mormon out of that guy.

I feel like that kid touching Chris Paul's family or whatever, pushing, doing whatever, is kind of similar to that guy rushing the stage for Chappelle. Like, Chris Paul should be allowed. That's one of those times where he can be a hero and have no repercussions for beating the fuck out of that guy. And speaking of that, there was a woman that tried to rush the UFC cage. And I'll tell you what, there was a security guy up on the cage,

fucking set his feet, fucking shuffled those steps a little bit. And this lady's body. Yeah. She went flying. And her friends that were pumped. Yeah. I don't know what the outcome of that is, but people are getting very, very comfortable at events.

And I think a lot of people, I'm like, yeah, here we go. I'm going to go get in there. Look, they turned their heads. I fucking got them. I'm out. I'm out. Everybody make sure you get a good angle of this. I'm going to get in in there. Look, they turn their heads. I fucking got him. I'm out. I'm out. Everybody make sure you get a good angle of this. I'm going to get in the cage.

Oh, my God, here I come. Everybody get shit. See ya! See ya! See ya! Good bass there, too. Oh, yeah. And then goes right back to man the post.

Okay, he's got eyes on this lady all the way front. He probably senses. Go ahead and play that. Go ahead and play it. He probably senses her already. Oh, my God. Here, let me get a good base. Yep, yep.

Here she comes. Bam. Fucking serious. He's waiting for a stunt. He's waiting for the tackle to fucking come around behind her. And in his head, what does he think? Does she have the little gun knife thingy that that fucking psychopath? How did Bill Burr describe that guy?

Oh, you know what Sid used to do in Toy Story? Is that what he was saying? Yeah. Which is a perfect description. Oh, yeah. that's probably what that security guard was saying what if there's a little gun knife thing on this lady i mean she looks small she kind of an unathletic run yeah she's gonna be able to get up over this cage if she gets up here he wasn't playing any of those games so i'll take a seat yeah insane this is like happening just because of that will smith shit it feels like like that kind of set the standard like hey i guess we can just rush stages now and do whatever the fuck we want.

You know, Will Smith, very good at social media. We've heard him say that privately and publicly and publicly privately. He is an influencer, right? So he does potentially influence other people's thoughts and opinions. And maybe it is the case that every one of those comedians that got so pissed off after that chris rock thing so mad yeah the comedians got so angry they actually even were like we're taking notes on motherfucking comedians that aren't speaking up for this right now actually that's what they actually were saying they were pissed because they thought that will smith would

give some lunatics who show up at events a more of a green light to go act on their feelings or their initial feelings or thoughts. And I, I've openly said this a couple different times now, I thought they were being a little ridiculous, being a little bit dramatic. You guys have seen your angle here to go. But they are the ones who have been at these shows and see these people and interact with these people who think they're funnier, smarter, and more offended and better people than you at an entertainment show where they're supposed to be coming to laugh. They get incredibly hateful. And I think they might have been right. Honestly, you're 100% correct.

I think whenever you see something like that, how many people saw that? 100 million people? So many. 100 million people probably saw that. And then you just walked back down, and he wins an Oscar later. I didn't even think about the potential repercussions later.

But people need to know, not only will you get bodied by a security guard on a cage, you'll get Sid from Toy Story, shout out Joe Burr. We've got to continue to publicly humiliate these people. Also, a UFC event, not the place to do it. Everyone's kind of already juiced up. It's kind of understood that, oh yeah, someone's going to rush the cage. They're probably going to get the shit beat out of them.

You get onto a football field, there's a chance you get tackled by Anthony Schlegel. Get onto a soccer pitch, there's a chance you get tackled by Anthony Schlegel. Yep. Get onto a soccer pitch, there's a good chance you get celebrated, and then, like, sideswiped by a security person at some point, but mostly people are happy about it. You rush the cage at a UFC event, you potentially get your fucking head kicked off. Yeah, you're dead. Speaking of, joining us now, fresh off a sensational Saturday, a viral moment that we all saw.

One of the best punts I have ever seen in my entire life. And then immediately following his victory, he cuts a promo in which he calls out four guys. And then Conor McGregor, if he wants some, come get some. See you at the top. Ladies and gentlemen, it seems like he's there. UFC stud. 22 fights, 17 knockouts going in. So now it's what, 23 fights, 18 finishes

going in. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Chandler. What's up, man? Dude, congratulations. Oh, thank you, man. Hey, from one of the greatest punters of all time, to say that that was one of the best punts you've ever

seen, I'll take it, man. How long? Now, listen, I know you kick, and you turn this dude into a senior citizen. His face honestly looks like he's 75, 80 years old. The amount of impact, just the perfect delivery, ball of the foot right on the chin. Is this something you're known for? Am I missing something? Is this something you worked on?

How did you know this was going to happen? Did you know? No, it's actually hilarious because it, I, uh, it's not something I train a lot to be quite honest with you. I'm more of a, uh, punch heavy striker. Uh, I don't throw a lot of kicks truthfully because I hurt my foot more times, more often than not. I hurt, I hurt myself more than I hurt my opponent. So I don't throw a ton of kicks, but we saw his hands were kind of on both sides of his head. He was kind of leaving a lane up the middle. So I was going to throw high lows and uppercuts, but the kick up the middle looked like it was going to land. So I just kind of, I honestly threw it out there for a range finder, but turns out I threw it with some ill

intent and it landed right on the chin and he crumbled and the rest is history yeah and it was awesome to watch and obviously tony ferguson's not saying that right now but everybody else on earth is like that's what fucking ufc events are about that's what you know you guys are both trying to do when you go in there it's electrifying it's entertainment i thought the entire first round you know you hey you got popped with one there right did you break your nose like does that happen or is your nose just doesn't break anymore yeah oh yeah yeah yeah okay i got popped you know i uh i bruised easily i'm not gonna lie uh you know i um i barely get touched here and there and i'll end up with a black eye but no i uh i definitely got hit in the eye and it was the first time my eye swelled up really quickly like that and uh kind

of messes with your sinuses so um yeah got popped in the eye which is good i mean it woke me up um helped me be a little bit more uh negotiation a little bit more uh less eager to to navigate those exchanges right away wanted to get the distance obviously got the uh got the takedown right away and did some ground and pound, and then in the second round got the distance with that kick. But definitely got popped, man. Tony Ferguson's a consummate professional, a hard-charging veteran. He's been in the top of the division. Compete against him, and he's always tough.

And he obviously had the reach on you and the size on you which i assume you're used to and everything like that but there was a couple moments i think dc even said like hey this is when chandler just starts fighting sometimes because you are the most entertaining fighter in there i mean you and gaethje literally tried to kill each other and it was unbelievable you do put on electrifying fights when you go into the corner after the first round after you had them down, and it felt like, you know, that's your breadbasket there, wrestling and throwing strikes.

You busted them open there. When you go into the corner, what's the conversation? I didn't hear it live. I watched it back. What was the conversation? What was the thought after round one? Like, you guys are in for one here, or did you feel good about where you were? Yeah, no, I mean, we knew we were in for one no matter what

when you were fighting Tony Ferguson but um I just kept telling my coaches keep repeating to me smart and sharp composed and confident you know like you said it's nice to have that no quit gene that brawler gene that uh that entertaining fighter gene I know I have it inside of me to be able to go out there and you know fight fight fire with firewood guys and sling leather. But it's, uh, it's even better to, to find the easiest path to victory, to be smart and sharp, be composed and confident, be a better. And that's what, that's what my coach was saying. Obviously, uh, you know, got tagged a little bit here in the,

in that first round, which is good. You almost want to get touched, um, to know that you're in a fight to, uh, to have your wherewithal about you, to keep you on your P's and Q's. So, you know, the fight finished in the second. So, last time you talked to us, or maybe it was the first time you chatted with us, you talked about how you live the fighter lifestyle. It's like, hey, every day I live the fighter lifestyle.

I'm all the way in. Nate Diaz just tweeted, like, July 7th or something, 2020. You quote tweeted that. You were like, hey, that's a very quick turnaround. Yeah. Especially with your signing situation you got right now. I mean, let's go. That's a quick turnaround.

I'm here. Quick turnaround. Spin your head on its axis. Nate Diaz, July 30th, 170 pounds. This comes after you talked about Conor McGregor in your post-fight promo. That was fucking, hey, hey, hey. That's not easy. Dead tired.

That's not easy at all to keep your composure. You didn't miss a word. I don't know if you watched it back. You fucking killed that thing. What is next for you? Anything? Are you ready to go, huh? You'll take anybody right now.

Thank you. Yeah, man. I'm just, I'm high on the achievement. I'm high on it going well. I'm high on being a part of the most electrifying division in the UFC. When you talk about the title now being vacant because Charles didn't make weight and Charles won. I have some history with Charles Oliveira. I had history with Justin Gaethje.

Had he won, Conor needs to come back and fight someone extremely talented and extremely exciting. A guy who makes people feel something. I've quickly become that guy. I put butts in seats. I'm entertaining on the microphone, in the octagon, in life. I'm hoping Conor comes back and wants to roll. If not, fight for the title.

If not, like we said, Diaz is out there. A couple fights at 170. I just want big fights, big platforms, big opportunities, big stages, and keep on making big statements. Yeah, because you're not just going to go relax now. You're probably taking a day or two off. You're taking this week off.

What is your plan right now? Yeah, we're still in Arizona. We love it out here. So we're hanging out by the pool today, getting to get some sun, get back to my newly adopted son. Who's like 20 days old. Hey, congrats. Thank you.

Thank you. So we have, we have our oldest son hap here right now. Ace is back home with a night nurse around the clock, making sure he's okay. So my wife was able to come out here and, and celebrate this, this opportunity.

And then yeah, man, probably take this week off as my feet and legs heal. I dislocated my pinky finger about 20, 30 minutes before the fight, blocking a kick. Your ring finger. Your ring finger. Yeah, your ring finger.

Come on. Yeah. You said pinky. Oh, yeah, sorry. My ring finger. No, I was about to say, man, your ring finger's fucked up too. I wanted to let you know. So that's in the warm-up.

You're training, and you're just blocking, and it just caught you. Yeah, man, my buddy Mark Wes, a great training partner of mine, he was throwing kicks. I had this great idea. Warm-up was already done. I'm going out in about 10, 20 minutes, and I'm like, hey, throw some left high kicks at me. I want to block him and go body shot.

And he threw a normal kick like he's done a thousand times at me. And it ended up going fingernail all the way back, bent it all the way back. At this point, boys, at this point, we keep the adrenaline going. I said, this ain't a hand. It's a hammer. We got to go. Hammer. Dawn.

He said you got electricity or lightning in both your hands, I believe, one time. And it turns out you got one in your fucking foot, too, man. Is the punt going to become part of the arsenal now? Are you going to start training that or no? Maybe, man. I tell you what, that's a funny thing. Like I said, I never train it. I'll probably train it a little bit more.

I got, obviously, some thick athletic legs, so I can generate a decent amount of power. This just worked out really well. The timing and the distance and the angle was perfect, and the accuracy worked out well. Pinpoint. You landed that in a keyhole, dude. I mean, that is right where you want it. You're right where you want it to be. Yeah, I know.

It's unfortunate, man, that that face is now going to live on the internet forever. Remember the bitter beer face? Yes. It's like, ah, bro. That's a rough one, man. But Tony Ferguson is a consummate professional, man. My hat's off to him. It was an honor to compete against him. This is the business that we're in,

man. Sometimes you get punted. Yeah, you're going to get punted. Go ahead, Ty. michael you mentioned your coaches just kind of you wanting them to repeat the same thing to you throughout after that first round throughout the rest of the fight for a fight like this how much does your original game plan like change from round to round like is he doing anything like okay we need to definitely change how we envision this going or is it you know what you're going to do going in and you kind of don't deviate from that original game plan it's it's a good question yeah i mean i ideally you you don't really deviate from the original game plan but truthfully i don't have a

a very strict game plan because you know you can have a game plan and all of a sudden if that game plan doesn't work now all of a sudden you're left with uh you know without a paddle um so essentially um i try to let the fight progress i like try to let the pipe the fight um kind of materialize itself um tony definitely came in with some some weird shots from weird angles and he definitely probably looked the best that he had looked in his last three performances so um i definitely had a gut check there for a second, definitely had a moment in the corner where I thought to myself, okay, we're in a dogfight here, boys.

So we got to move forward and got the distance in the second round and obviously got the finish and the backflips and the call-outs and all that kind of stuff. It worked out really well. Hey, those backflips were clean. How many did you hit four or five uh four only four you threw a guy out of the way too for that last one i did i did and i actually i tracked down two different people uh to get that guy's number to text him and say yo bro i just saw that video man i feel like a huge d-bag but your boy was on cloud nine i was high on an adrenaline and uh

hey those are clean backflips though very very very clean you trampoline kid growing up thank you uh no i mean but i've always i've always just kind of been a guy who's been able to do backflips i and people love to see him and i at the And the crowd cheered after the first one, so you know me, Pat. I got to play to the crowd. Absolutely. You're an entertainer, man. That's good for business. Go ahead, Connor.

Yeah, Michael, you mentioned your oldest son is with you. Was that the first time he saw you fight in person? And does he know now, like, oh, shit, my dad's a gladiator, or did he already know that? Yeah, I think he kind of knew. You know, my wife and I were slowly breaking him into it, what this event was going to entail. He went to the weigh-ins.

He's wearing his headphones because it's extremely loud in there, sensory overload. But it was really, really good. Obviously, there was a ton of pressure. There's a ton of pressure when your child is there, and it's the sport of mixed martial arts. I mean, let's be honest. What happened to Tony could have just as easily happened to me on Saturday night.

That's the game that we signed up for. So it was a little bit scary, obviously, taking him into a tumultuous situation where there is no guarantee that I'm going to win, even if I am the favorite. But it was really good for him to see what daddy does because, you know, as I said, we're here in Arizona now, but I've been in Florida training while my family is in Nashville and I go home on the weekends and it's, my sons will know without a shadow of a doubt that every man has to work and every man needs to be selfish for seasons in order to be completely selfless for the family. So it's nice for them or him to see what daddy does on fight night to bring home the bacon for the family and provide and create a legacy. Because this sport that I love takes me away from him.

So it all came full circle and it was a really, really good weekend. Man, what a way to help explain the entire thing to your kid. Like, let me tell you why I have to go train, because there's a chance that that bitter beer face is your dad's. We need that not to happen. Also, UFC environments, those arenas are electrifying. I'm sure he learned some stuff from looking around, too. I'm sure he saw some things that he may not have seen.

Exactly. I'm glad he had his headphones on. Yeah, smart. Good call. Go ahead, Tony. Last question here, Mike. Thank you for your time. Go ahead, Tony.

Michael, you kind of talked about it earlier that Charles missed weight by half a pound, so the title's vacant now. And then you talked about also fighting at 170. What do you walk around at? And if you do fight at 170, do you just have to cut less, or do you get heavier during training camp? How does the weight situation work with 155 to 170? Yeah, that's a good question.

Yeah, so essentially because Charles missed weight, that title became vacant. Justin Gaethje could have won the title, but Charles Oliveira could not have retained the title. And since Charles won, the title is now vacant. The UFC has since said that he is now the number one contender. So if I fight for the title, it would be against Charles Oliveira. And then, yes, as far as fighting at 170, to be honest with you, I'm already a pretty big 155-er. I will be 190 to 192 in the next two three weeks um once my body kind of fills

itself back up and then then I'll just get lean and get in shape and cut a little bit less weight I'm not going to put on any muscle mass I'm already pretty big I'm already a pretty big boy I don't need any more muscle mass uh to be carrying around the octagon with me you're a stout fucking guy yeah I'll try to be yeah receiver man slot receiver gotta take those hits i i think the cool thing about you and you're a baby face in this whole thing because i think everybody enjoys your your mission your drive your entertaining your fights have been awesome and you've been a champion elsewhere and still keep striving and striving and striving for more so i don't expect you to bury anybody. But when somebody misses weight, what is that viewed like amongst other fighters, right?

Like, hey, we all are in this for the card, right? We're all making money together. Is that how it's viewed? Like you didn't hold up your end of the bargain? Or is that possible for anybody at any fight to potentially miss by a half a fucking pound? Yeah, I mean, I will definitely never say, never, ever, ever give the benefit of the doubt that it's a possibility, man. You got a contract and you sign that contract on the contract at weight.

I have weighed in now 30 times in mixed martial arts and 100 and something times before that in the sport of wrestling. I have never missed weight. I don't say that to impress anybody, but to impress upon you that there's just, there's the weight cut started way before that last morning. You know, the weight cut started way before that last week, the weight cut starts 10 weeks, 12 weeks before the fight, when you consistently are disciplined inside of the, the kitchen consistently disciplined with your supplementation consistently disciplined with your road work, your cardio, the extra work that you need to do. And I would never kick a man while he's down. I mean, Charles is not exactly down. He still won the fight, but it was unfortunate for him that he is not the champion anymore because he missed

weight. But, um, there was, uh, you know, there was obviously a sentiment that everybody was just dumbfounded, especially as a champion. You know, you, when you become the champion, you have even more of a reputation to uphold and making weight is the first the first commitment that you make that you have to see through. I've never missed weight, so I've never been that guy, but

I'm sure Charles will clean it up hopefully in the future. It's miserable, huh? It is miserable, weight cutting? It is the worst thing in the world pat you know god only there's only a couple uh real necessities in life oxygen food water and uh you're two of them are on short supply uh so your calorie restricted and i mean just like you said i'm probably 182 right now uh my body feels good at in the upper 170s and in the mid 80s even in the 90s my body

just feels good i feel like a normal human being when i start creeping down into the 70s definitely into the 60s i start feeling like a small child so uh i'm trying to try to not feel that way anymore man i just want to be i just want to be thriving i just want my body to be moving and uh firing on all cylinders once i get below Once I get below 170, it's no bueno. I like the fact you called out Conor at 170 because in your head you're like, also it would be good for me. Yeah, I definitely played to Conor. Right now I know Conor's talking about fighting 170.

He's looking big. He's looking beefy. He's looking dangerous. I love it. That's the Conor I want to fight. Not to mention the fact that, yeah, if I ain't got to make 155, let's go ahead and do it

at 170. Let's do it with them big old 170 hands. We'll get back to the celebration. We can't thank you enough for joining us. Can't wait to see who you fight next, and we'll see you at the top, boss. Yeah, I'll see you at the top, man. I really appreciate y'all. Thank you for having me. Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Chandler. Yeah!

Toxic Table is here looking fantastic. At Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner. How was your guys' weekend? Pretty good. Hey, and today, weather's turning around. What's not to feel great about? Yeah, the sun's out here. This is a big day.

At Tone Diggs, you look fantastic. How was your weekend, bud? How was your weekend? Good. I did a lot of yard work this weekend. It's that time of year. Get your things done so that you can enjoy the rest of summer. Yeah, you're a real man.

Hell yeah. He was posting stories on his IG of all of his, you know, I think he bought some pots with some shrubbery in it. Yeah, I bought some. I ripped out a bunch of fucking dead piece of shit bushes and replaced them with new better looking ones. Let's get the yard looking right. So I just moved into a new, not just, but this is my first spring summer in this new

house. Here we go. Yeah, it's interesting. It's very interesting watching everybody fly by. It's very nice. I got a house on a lake like an hour and a half north of Indianapolis. So it's starting to get active, you know, here. It's getting active during the Mother's Day weekend.

And as the sun is starting to shine. How is Lake Michigan? You know, it's not bad michigan you know it's not bad you know it's not bad it's a little bit of a haul every single morning in here to the show especially after like last night getting home late after wrestlemania backlash but my neighbor has a tree that is despicable oh no this tree just it drops shit all like little of these little. Helicopters? No, not helicopters. These little beady looking fucking things.

It's like four or five beads. It's just all over the entire backyard or back area. And I'm looking, the trunk of the tree is in their yard. But that thing grows right on top of my thing. And it's just shitting and dumping all these beads in our entire back area. And is that just a spring thing? is this going to be all summer and what happens if i just saw that thing down well if it's grown into your yard it's 50 50 so you can go out there and cut the top half of it all is that real i don't know if you're telling the truth i don't think so but i mean i thought it was trunk because let me tell you why when i was at my last house and i moved in

and every tree on the property decided it was time to die then. Right. And they were just falling all over the place. Everybody pointed back to where the trunk was planted into. Oh, this is technically your tree. And every one of them was my tree. It was unbelievable. Had so much lumber, so many fences to fix, so many backyards to figure out.

I don't think I'm allowed to do that to the neighbor's tree. That's the best of both worlds, right? You don't get any of the shit in your yard. He still gets the stump of the tree about halfway up in his yard, and it'll probably never grow back while you're still living there. I mean, I feel like everyone wins. Can I just substitute that tree for like a pine tree? Just go ahead and sub that one up.

Yeah. Get a Georgia pine. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think it's like airspace. Like if it's above your house, you know, it's airspace. Tell them, hey, boss, I'll pay for that tree to be cut down. I'll even get you a new tree if that works for you.

Just get this one the fuck out of here. They were having a block party, I guess, up on the street. People love their trees, man. It takes years to grow those things. There's no way these people were nurturing this fucking tree. This tree is 150 years old i almost feel terrible i almost want to build a net around the fucking thing like the suicide nets they have around buildings so those things won't hit the back but it's going to become an

issue i'm learning about the new property they had a block party last night while i was on home i guess it was right outside of our house the dogs for two three hours barking sound like a great time i got got a couple of FaceTimes from the block party that was happening outside. It looks like a friendly group of people. I don't know any of them because it's kind of been cold. We've been locked down, but I can't wait to meet everybody and maybe put a new tree

in there for the neighbors. Joining us now is a man who is the head of his HOA. He runs the Homeowners Association, not only the Hawk House, but the Hawk Compound, which has five other houses. In the middle of Columbus, this Ohio State legend has staked a flag and said, this is my land now. He will never leave. He drives at two feet.

He falls asleep while he's driving, has mangled fingers, wakes up every single morning and works out. Then he flexes his college football national championship ring, his Super Bowl championship ring, his Ryder Cup championship ring, and his COVID survivor necklace. Ladies and gentlemen, an absolute champion of champions, A.J. Hall. What's going on, A.J.? What's up, guys? Appreciate the great intro there. I think you can technically trim the limbs off of your property. And if the guy is sensitive to that, because I think Evie is right,

people are really weird about trees. You have to just slowly poison it, and hopefully it dies within the next three to five years. Like Alabama. Oh, yeah. So then it can't trace it to you. Okay, so how do I do that? I just put water, like, batch it into the ground?

I inject it with stuff? Isn't it just a rusty nail? I don't know. And that kills the tree? Is that what that guy did in Bama or Auburn or whatever? I think it depends on the tree. This tree looks tough. I mean, it's dumping all over my pool.

This tree is talking shit. Aren't these people old and senile? Can't you just cut it down and they won't even know? Listen, I have not met them yet. I do not know their ages. I don't think they live there full time, though. I believe that is a destination place they travel to during the year. That changes things, too.

You think it's good or bad? I think it's good. Good. Yeah. They probably don't care about the tree as much. So this says you can drill some holes around the tree and pour some Roundup, a very small amount of Roundup in there. You've got to do that in a cloak of darkness.

Yeah. Within like a year to three. I'm not doing that. I'm going to wait and see if this thing dies with the spring. Nick, we don't need it yet. All right, we'll send in SEAL Team Nick whenever, okay, when things get a little bit too crazy in the summer. AJ, great to see you.

How was your weekend? I hope you celebrated Mother's Day properly. You know, you were a week ahead of time. Yeah, I was a week ahead. It was great to be prepared. But, yeah, Mother's Day went off without a hitch around here. Okay, awesome. I know you watch WrestleMania Backlash.

This is the first. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. I worked the last three matches. I watched the entire thing, too. I was very lucky to be there. The thought, though, AJ, that the Kentucky Derby happened, an F1 race happened, the NHL playoffs are happening the nba playoffs are happening

michael chandler punted a guy's head off and canelo lost and wrestlemania backlash i mean what a weekend this was a fucking packed weekend aj hawk what what was your top thing then from the other than wrestlemania backlash what was your top event that was like you're right there's a lot of high-flying things going on this week so so fascinating so the f1 was just so peculiar peculiar to me because what i had heard about that place it turned out to be 100 true like my thoughts were like oh it's just where all the super rich people and famous people all hang out and spend a lot of money and make a lot of money and race cars that's exactly what the f1 event was in miami we'll be talking to darius butler in like six minutes who was down and around all the festivities all weekend that place looked amazing and awesome then dick strike i mean i didn't hear

that name one time i heard taiba and cyber knife secret oath by the way dig it away mike has a winner on on on record here on this show which is great but dick strike winning is awesome that's only you know that the whole coverage all day, fascinating. You know, they had Dale Earnhardt Jr. clap for a guy riding a fake horse, and I'm like, what are we doing with fucking Jr.? I missed that one. What happened there? I don't know. Who's the other guy with the curly hair? He has a great voice. He covers horse racing.

He must be the local aficionado, always has a loud suit on. He's in the coverage all day. Seems to be a pretty cool guy. Seems to have a good time. They were doing a bucket list around churchill downs and one of them i think he was on a and literally it was as i turned on the i almost i videoed it i almost put on the internet but i didn't think junior deserved it so it was as soon as i turned on the coverage because they have six hours worth of coverage all day or whatever covering the entire uh day from the downs or whatever didn't get druski there enough, I didn't think.

I could have got Drewski or Jack Harlow on there a little bit more. Yeah, what's that about? You know, and the boys. But as soon as I turned it on, he was riding a wooden horse, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. was clapping for him next to it, and then he went into a commercial break, and I'm like, I'm not fucking Junior. Can we not have Junior doing that?

You know what I mean? Like, if that horse is fake racing and I would like, if we're having a fake race, I want fucking Junior on a goddamn horse. Yeah. Get him on the Mountain Dew horse. That's what I'm talking about. The,

even the fake one, whichever one he wants to get on. But that guy, I didn't know who he was. So the coverage was fascinating to me. I thought that was very interesting. It looks like a blast down there. You go every year.

This is your first year not going. How do you feel about it? No, it's not my first year not going, yeah i've uh i've gone six or seven times i would say it was i got back we watched uh i didn't watch a lot of the the lead up to the show i guess to the race i heard the race is going on about seven so i turned it on 6 45 or so and what a story man the best my favorite part was that that jockey had six races the day before in cinc Belterra, a place

that's not too far from where I grew up, and he only won one of the six races. Yeah, well, it's just all about the horse. If Dick Strike was on the Belterra tracks, probably going to win. This horse, I don't know what it was doing before showtime. I don't know why it was 80 to 1. I don't know how it had performed. I should have done more research. This thing's biting dudes and horses.

That was my favorite part of the whole show. This is a badass. This is a dog. This horse is a dog. Will he race again? I mean, assume that people are going to think he was. He's trying to get triple crown. What do you mean?

Yeah, but, I mean, doesn't this happen? Like, people win, and then they test them, like, a day after. Oh, yeah. He wasn't doing cocaine or something before. Well that happened for Bob Baffert but. Bro Dick's strike was biting horses and people. It was an 80 to 1 odds. People are naturally going to

say was there something piped through Dick's strike's blood. You think he had a runny nose before the fight and they pretended to put a Kleenex up to it like and then sniffed out of the Kleenex. I don't know if they're doing coke over there. Is that what they're doing? That's what Connor just said.

I mean, that's an interesting clip, Diggs. He's talking about the Amber Heard clip. Yeah. What happened? She went to wipe her nose in the courtroom and. Yeah.

So weird. It certainly looks like she takes a bum ski out of a Kleenex while she's on the stand. Kleenex could certainly fit some cocaine. So I was thinking about him talking about the box. That she's on the stand. Kleenex could certainly fit some cocaine. That's what I was thinking about him talking about the box. That thing's still going on.

Oh, yeah. Wow. I've seen a petition trying to get her out of Aquaman. I believe Nick and Zito have signed it many times. Yeah, I've signed it 45 times.

That's not how it works. Wait, she's already in the movie, I think. They're already filming. That's not how petitions work. They might be able to just edit her out. You know, you saw what that last fucking studio did to Star Wars.

That's right. He's edited out whole parts of the movie. Bullshit. That doesn't even have to make sense. I'm pissed about that. Yeah. Me too. Still to this day, I'm mad about it.

Did you see the trailer? Anyways, I don't think Dick Strike was snorting coke out of Kleenexes. Amber Heard might have been. I'm not sure Dick Strike was. What would be the thing, though, to get it all juiced up, right? Wouldn't they just shoot it with some sort of – by the way, I think that's not good. That's not great.

But if this was any other sport and somebody that is that big of an underdog ends up being dominant – by the way, catching up and being dominant and then starts biting humans and other uh players and things like that people be like well that's not a sane horse right there bath salts that's what i'm saying maybe maybe smoking some spice see i assumed the guy who worked for churchill downs who uh dick strike bit was like uh sean william scott in old school like before went in the stable and was like the motherfucker was like yeah William Scott in old school before went in the sable and was like, motherfucker, and was grabbing his thing. 80 to 1, you ain't never going to be nothing.

Exactly. So he was like, all right, I'm going to go out there, I'm going to win, and then I'm going to try to bite this fucking guy's arm off. I'm going to find him and bite his arm off. His legs, well. Yeah. The guy was yelling,

act like you've fucking been here before. Rich Strike was... I haven't. I have not. Sorry. This is new norm for me, but I enjoyed that. James Harden's back is cool. I think that's good news.

We'll talk to Q Rich in the third hour about that, host of the Knuckleheads podcast. He was on First Take, I believe. Yeah, last week. Last week. Killed it. Yeah, crushed.

Done good. He always is good for conversation. The NBA's taking off. Lil Wayne called Luka a hoe. Not good. In a negative way? Well, yes. Come on, AJ.

You never know, man. I don't know. I mean, Luka's a monster. I think you do. What do you have bad to say about him? I'm pretty sure, and I might be wrong here, but I think anytime somebody, Luka a hoe, I think that's not good.

I believe. Just trying to clarify. You never know. Joining us now is a man who might be able to clarify it a little bit better for us. He is an F1 superfan. Was around all the festivities this weekend, although we did not see him in the photo with Michael Jordan, Lewis Hamilton, David Beckham, and Tom Brady.

He was right next to them. Kind of fucked up that they edited him out of it. What the hell? Unbelievable. This dude, never a ho. Ladies and gentlemen, nine-year NFL vet, host of the Man to Man podcast, friend of the show, and chugged so many beers two weeks ago. Darius Butler.

What's good? What's good? Hey, you look fantastic. You recovered. It took me a few days. It took me a few days, dude. Man, you and me both. I got back on the horse, though. I'm back already. Missed your flight. Don't quit me. Ain't no hole in my days, dude. Man, you and me both. I got back on the horse, though.

I'm back already. Missed your flight. Don't quit me. Ain't no hoe in my blood, baby. Hey, Larry. Okay, Luca Ho is not a compliment from Lil Wayne. Not at all. Why is that?

Why do you call him a ho? I think him and Chris Paul are pretty tight. I think they go back a long way. I know Luca got Chris Paul fired out, did a lot of flopping. Chris Paul does a lot of flopping himself. So I think it probably has something to do with that. But that was strong coming from Wayne. I didn't expect that. Yeah, a lot of retweets.

And Luka probably heads back and goes, oh, fuck it. Oh, Wayne. Shit. Call me a hoe. What is this all about? I saw a video of Kevin Durant of the type of gymnasiums that Luka and Joe grew up playing in with like flamethrowers, basically. Flares.

And flares. Flares, yeah. That shit was crazy. Hey, those dudes aren't bothered by nothing. Those dudes don't give a damn about anything over there. I wonder how they'll react to Lil Wayne. Let's move on, though. You were at the F1 event.

It appeared as if it was the most amazing event of all time. Is that what it was down there? Did Miami kill it? And will it be back every single year now? It was awesome. It was awesome. It was, you know, everybody was excited about it. Pretty much had a Super Bowl vibe to it. And that's basically what F1 does. They go from city to city around the world. This was obviously the first one in Miami. Everybody loves Miami, loves to find a reason to get here. I know it's a 10-year commitment down here. They got one in Austin and then next year in Vegas they'll have one as well. You saw

the report. You saw the tweet. Stephen Ross made as much this weekend as he will all season hosting NFL games. I'm sure other owners, other cities will be jumping up to try to bid and get their city on the schedule as well. It was crazy. It was dope. Obviously obviously a lot more fans are getting into it i'm sure half the people there it's probably the first time ever going to a car racing event uh but it was it was

dope the whole weekend was exciting d but what is what is it like honestly for somebody that doesn't know anything about f1 i know netflix had the series and it took off and everything what was the day like how long was the race? What did you do the whole time? The race, probably like an hour and a half from start to finish. Did you watch any of it? A lot of those cool events, you end up going and you don't watch one ounce

of whatever the sporting event is. He's talking about the derby and he's always blacked out on golf tournaments. Anything happens? Absolutely. It depends on the vibe. The place I went to, obviously you see me, I mean, it depends on the vibe. The place I went to, obviously, you see me, I'm decked out in McLaren. McLaren had a shitty weekend on the track. But they show hospitality.

I was a free agent going into this thing, so I signed a one-race deal with McLaren. But, yeah, it depends on where you're watching it. You know, it was in the McLaren race house, so the hospitality was great. Food, drinks, TV, you know, people just talking. So you don't watch the whole race. You're not glued to the track. And obviously, it's a big-ass track, so they're going, you know, all around.

But, you know, as it gets close, when there is an accident, regardless of whatever lead the lead racer has, all the cars get grouped back together, and that made it more exciting. the lead racer has, all the cars get grouped back together, and that made it more exciting. But, I mean, the thing about the one bad thing about the race, I would say, is going into it, there is no rich strike. There is no dick strike who's going to make an upset. Like, you kind of know one, two, maybe three teams or drivers going to win it.

So, Max Verstappen won it again. It's the third race of the season. Every race that he's finished, he's won. And every race that he didn't win, Charles Leclerc from Ferrari won it. But it was exciting, man. The fans were into it. All the celebs, obviously. The real F1 fans, though, it was a little too much for them.

You know how we do it in America. We're going to throw some extra shit on it to put a little sauce on it. But it was fun. It was exciting. We do that to everything. Yeah. Literally everything. We can't help ourselves. We did it to hockey. Look, we do that to everything yeah and literally everything we can't help ourselves we did the hockey look we created the nhl you're welcome you're welcome to the entire thing wait until the next time f1 comes back to america oh you thought it was bad that first time now we got now we got a blueprint of what we can add on

now vegas they gotta outdo miami it's going to be huge. Chris Angel is going to be coming down from the McLaren house right into the Lambo house right over to the Rolex place. One second later, he's going to be driving a car on the track. He's winning. He's somehow in the lead.

Holy fuck, Chris Angel did it. Anyways, I don't want to dive into why the same people probably win because it's probably the most amount of money invested in the engineers and the car and everything like that, which is like, I think, indie car. But let's talk. Did you talk to any of them about the growth that they have felt? And is, like you, is everybody else interested because of the documentary or the series on Netflix?

Did they feel like that was legitimately the game changer for them? Because I'd always heard about F1 because IndyCard's here. It's like, oh, the European one where all the big money is. But now it feels like there is genuine interest from fucking everybody in America. That's not easy to do at all. Yeah, I mean, obviously we know how powerful media is. So Liberty Media, a U.S. company, bought F1 back in 2016 for like four and a half billion. And they made an investment with the Netflix docuseries, four years of the drive to survive. And that just got renewed for season five and six.

But that just brought a crazy influx of viewers and engagement into the sport. And now they want to obviously they saw the untapped potential in the U.S. market. So it's going to continue to grow. But this has been huge. You know, World Wide Internationally, obviously they go. They'll be in Barcelona in like 12 days doing it all over again. So it's really crazy. It's like a Super Bowl. It's kind of like the WWE. You pack up and you do another show in the next city the next week. So they'll be back on it. So you basically, and then

Miami, you're hosting it for 10 years now. So if you're Steven Ross, you're basically hosting the Super Bowl 10 years in a row. So I'm sure other owners, other people with money are going to be like Charlotte, for instance. You know, the Panthers. Charlotte's obviously a huge racing city. Carolina's

so I'm sure they'll probably try to get it in as well. So it's crazy. But the growth has been crazy. And you can definitely tell, you know, the drive to survive fans that got in. You know, the guys who've been, you know, like me, you know, I'm a season one through four kind of guy. So I'm a little veteran. You kind of got the season four crowd. And then you got the guys who've been around their whole life.

So it was an interesting crowd to be around for the weekend, to say the least. A lot of very, very bougie, wealthy. It's been dominated by that group for a while. So hopefully more people get into it. Yeah, it was certainly fascinating to watch. Because normally they would just only wraith in Bartholona. You know what I mean?

Because normally, Bartholona and the likes of Cannes and other cities like that, that is something that would host an F1 race. What was that second city? Cannes. Where is that? It's in the south of France. It's a great film festival. Yeah, come on.

It's in the south of France. Near Nice. It is near Nice. It's right near Nantes. It is Nantes. Matt, for a stop, has never lost, actually, at It's in South France. Near Nice. It is near Nice. Right near Nantes. Right is Nantes. Matt, for stopping, has never lost, actually, at Bartholone either. Well, merci for that information. Anyways, Darius, let's move on to the NFL.

I'm happy you had a great weekend, and I'm excited that your fanhood has been paying off. Yeah. There we go. You know what I mean? It's good. I got in at the right time. Well, NFTs are dead. Did you get in at the right time for that or not? I don good. I'm getting it. I got it at the right time. Well, NFTs are dead.

Did you get it at the right time for that or not? I don't want to talk about it. I never got NFTs. But cryptos, they're getting smacked too. But, you know, that's been a long ride. I've been telling guys from the beginning. Long term, man. Hey, that's right.

Diamond hands. That's right. Hold. There's a lot of people. Hold. I don't know. Don't invest your mortgage and your rent money into it. A lot of people going back to jobs that they didn't want to fucking go back to at the time.

So everybody, you know, stay in your lane. All right. So, I mean, financial advice has been at an all-time high all around the Internet. We had 15 experts in here at one point on numerous different things that either didn't exist a week beforehand and then probably don't exist now. But that's the world we live in. It's awesome. Let's talk about football a little bit here.

Richard Sherman said, basically, now, I don't think it was that big of a shot. He kind of backed off the answer a little bit. He left it open-ended. But he talked about how a quarterback with long sleeves and gloves, do I think he's the quarterback of the future? I don't know. Sherman said a picket.

It's hard for me to trust a quarterback who wears gloves all the time. It's just different. It's just different. I just have a hard time with it. But he a picket. It's hard for me to trust a quarterback who wears gloves all the time. It's just different. It's just different. I just have a hard time with it. But he slings it. He's effective, and we'll see how effective he is in Pittsburgh. They do a great job developing guys.

They haven't had another quarterback under center starting consistently since Ben Roethlisberger. I mean, Ben's been there for, what, 13, 14 years, something like that. So that'll be interesting. Headline was he doesn't trust somebody that wears long sleeves and gloves. Full quote, though, kind of like, who the fuck knows? Which is kind of how, this comes from the Richard Sherman podcast, kind of how we have to view everybody that gets drafted, by the way. We have no idea who's going to make it, who's not going to make it.

Do you think Kenny Pickett's entire glove, long sleeve, it's been a conversation by a lot of people saying, that ain't my type quarterback kurt warner had success though yeah peyton manning had success at the end of his career teddy two gloves almost had an mvp before he got injured with two gloves is it just such an anomaly we don't see it as much it's not as respected or is there something to it you think d but uh yeah i don't really think it's anything to if he would for me if pickett was going from you know california to

pittsburgh it may be something to it but the guy's been playing in the same city uh for the last what three four years so him standing the same if that's how he gets by he was good enough to be a first round pick um you're going into a stable organization that's uh very very important for all players coming in but especially quarterbacks you got good receivers good running back so i think he'll be all right and those are the things I kind of focus on. But, you know, guys do focus on, can look at a quarterback like that, you know, sleeves, gloves, little hands, and maybe those are a concern for him.

But I'll let the, you know, his play on the field do his talking. And like I said, the fact that he's in the same city, he's so familiar with the facilities and everything, I think he'll be all alright. Ball looks real big in his hands. Hey, D-Butts, what do you think of Detroit's draft? I mean, you know, I think they did a great

job. Obviously, you got the kid out of Alabama, Jameson. I'd say on the draft, spectacular. I feel sorry for the kid, but, you know, I'm excited for him. Do you think you set his expectations up for how he should handle this? By the way, did you see those photos of him and his breast cover?

He did smile at some point. We saw some photos of him smiling. I don't have them, but he came out and said that was all bullshit. He actually said, I partied the night before because I was just drafted in the NFL. My dream came true. Oh, he's hungover! He's done. They did a great job in the draft.

I'm not going to go as far as Dane and say they're closing the gap on the fucking Packers. But, you know, they're making the right moves. Obviously, you got a guy in there with MCDC who's got the guys playing hard. But you got to win games. None of that shit matters unless you put it all together and make it win. So, I do think they had a good draft. But drafts, you know, don't really mean anything unless you can put it together out there on the field, as everybody out here knows.

So it'll be interesting to see. But I'm sure Detroit fans are excited, so I'm happy for you guys too, Foxy. Jameson Williams made me think about, I think Peter King wrote this article on his Football Morning in America article every single Monday. Every single Monday.

You read it? Fuck yeah. Come on, I'm a reader. It's pretty long. I read it? Fuck yeah. Come on. I'm a reader. It's pretty long. I read a couple quotes out of it for sure, but he said, which is what we've been talking about here for the last few weeks,

but hearing him say it, especially getting quotes from the GM, means we're probably onto something because Peter King is plugged. And he was talking about how there's going to become two different philosophies. If you pay a quarterback, you're probably not going to be able to pay

an order wide receiver that you kind of groom and bring up somebody else is going to pay him. If you don't have to pay a quarterback and they're on a rookie contract, you can get one of those weapons for your rookie that you want. He pointed at the Philadelphia situation when he was talking about A.J. Brown. Tannehill has got a contract, can't pay A.J. Brown a big contract. Jalen Hurts on a rookie contract, can pay A.J. Brown over there. Now, Hollywood goes over to Arizona. They're going to have to pay Kyler.

I mean, there's ways to manipulate the salary cap, but this is becoming a thing now where teams are either going to be, hey, we can get young guys that are going to be able to do the job and not have to pay them nearly as much money. And some teams are saying, hey, we're going to go fucking get a guy. D-Butt, as a DB who played corner, nickel, and safety, are there some guys that are just that much different than everybody else? Or are these younger dudes coming in at a much higher level and you think it's going to kind of uh kind of

top off at how many people get paid a lot of money at the wide receiver position going forward i mean situations are situational and uh at that position especially there are definitely some difference makers at that receiver position but there is such a dependent position and as a defense like we can you can take more times than now you can take a receiver out of the game pretty much and make somebody else beat you but so it really depends on who your situation your quarterback because all these guys a lot of these young guys are coming in and playing well immediately but a lot of them are not as well so jefferson came in but he had kirk cousins quarterback jamar chase he had his college quarterback.

Hollywood Brown, he'll go over there and play with his college quarterback. Devontae, he's back with his – so it's about that continuity. It's about the play call. It's about having an offensive line that can block a play call that can get them open. So there's so many different variables, especially at that receiver position. So it really depends on your team, your locker room, your quarterback, your philosophy.

But a lot of people are falling in love with these college prospects, but that's a tough position to just come in and just play immediately. But some guys are coming in and doing it well. So everybody's trying to – you know how it is. It's a copycat league. So you see a few guys doing it like, hey, we could do it too. But it really depends on who you have under center. And out there in Detroit, Jamison Williams, you know, he's with golf now,

but they may stink this year, and he may have his college quarterback next year at the top of the draft. So it's an interesting thing because you think people are just kind of victims of the moment and kind of overreacting, just assuming all these college guys are going to be great in the NFL. It's not like that. You think we're just kind of had a little bit of a run here of a couple years where some guys, rookies, have been big parts.

It's not going to be like that forever, you don't think? No. I mean, I'm telling you, every situation is different. So you get rid of A.J. Brown in Tennessee, like A.J. Brown is proven. He's proven to be a decision-maker. He was their most viable target by a long shot in Tennessee, and you just ship him out of town because you don't want to pay him, you know, the new going rate, and you bring in a rookie who, because you don't want to pay him the new going rate,

and you bring in a rookie who is very similar to A.J. Brown. Same size, same size. Yeah, very similar, but we see a lot of college and can't-miss prospects come in and stink it up. And then is Tannehill, is he a force multiplier, as they call him? Is he a guy that's going to make everybody around him better in the pass game? Force multiplier. I don't think so.

But we'll see. We'll see how that works out. That was really good. Force multiplier there. Last question from me before the boys have some. Jarvis Land. I don't know if that's the right term. No, no.

Jorz. Jorz. Nailed it, dude. Yeah, dude. It sounds like one plus one equals seven when people are talking about synergy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. One plus like one plus one equals seven when people are talking about synergy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.

One plus one. Everybody alone, that equals two. But you get them together, that equals seven. That's right. I had a soccer coach who gave that speech. And I'll never forget. I don't think that one works. Throw that one out.

Most speeches, yeah. Most speeches go down that route. Hey, you're looking at three people on the screen right now, I believe, that have been in the NFL for a pretty long period of time that all viewed most speeches in the exact same way. What are we doing here? I was just going to ask, does anyone like speeches then? I think you're looking at three.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. They've got to be real, though. They've got to be organic and real in the moment. I remember I had a D coordinator or a defensive coach one time in Cincy. He brought us all together. We were having a tough, like we were just struggling. And we started to like come back.

And I remember he got emotional, pulled us all in. He wasn't an emotional guy. He got emotional telling us like we're going to do this, all this. And I was like, yeah, man. Like this is – I like gave him a little rock. I'm like, that was sweet, man. I think we might end up winning. Like it was Rio in the moment.

Anything – Was he a guy who barely spoke? He didn't barely speak, but it was a little bit out of character for him. Like, I didn't know he had it in him. How many years? It was cool to see. How many years did you play in the NFL, AJ? 11.

One speech, you just said. No, how do you know? 11 years? For me, it's probably like a hand, maybe like a good 5 to 10, maybe. But it's usually, like AJ said, it's usually from a guy who doesn't speak. Because if it's a guy that's doing it every week, every day, you know, that gets old, that gets stale. But if it's a guy, you know, those kind of sideline,

when somebody, you know, you rally the defense or the offense on the sideline, say, hey, let's get our shit together, let's do this, let's do that. Or one of those players-only meetings. You know, things like that. I think those go a long way. But, you know, you're never pros pros and most of us can motivate ourselves you don't really need a guy to talk you up and run through a wall uh but yeah a lot of those people that's you know look through on tv it's good for movies and shit but for the most part man it's like come on shut the

fuck up there yeah there's a lot of that and i i i would never i mean there are so many times where somebody starts speaking and everybody's first thought is to look around and see what everybody else is doing come on this can't happen are we into this? I'm hearing the same thing everybody else is this is fucking shit is this slam poetry?

hey that was out of this guy's room that was out of this guy's room that's on me let's talk last question for me Jarvis Landry still a free agent out of this guy's room. That was out of this guy's room. That's on me. That's on me. Let's talk. Last question for me. Jarvis Landry, still a free agent.

I guess the door is closed on the Browns, allegedly, depending upon if you were... Was it Mary Kay? Mary Kay Cabot, who I'm not sure. She is...

She's... She's covered Cleveland a long time. I don't know if she's hit on anything as of late, though, right? We've covered a couple things that haven't really hit. I don't know if it's hit on anything as of late, though, right? We've covered a couple things that haven't really hit.

I don't know if it's happened. She said Pittsburgh Steelers would sign Baker Mayfield tomorrow if he was to be released. Steelers going to draft Kenny Pickett. Maybe they would have, by the way. So maybe Mary Kay was right, although Pittsburgh and Cleveland don't like each other, and she kind of got buried in the middle of that. Nonetheless, she's been covering the Browns.

She knows the Browns. Jarvis Landry likely to move on after taking Purdue receiver David Bell in the third round. The Browns are unlikely to re-sign Jarvis Landry. Although Bell can play outside, he'll probably initially work in a slot which would make Landry expendable. Landry also visited his hometown Saints recently and might still have an opportunity to sign there. Other teams have expressed interest in the five-time Pro Bowler and could have multiple opportunities in the coming weeks, but it appears the door is closed on a Cleveland return. Now, that is not an inside source. That is not a plug. That is her speculating on the situation with maybe more information than anybody else has who's not plugged in in Cleveland. Well, that being

said, why is anybody signing this dude? When you talk about speeches, he gave one in that wide receiver room. It felt like everybody bought into there. He's a guy. Why isn't he signed already if he wants to be, D-Butter Do you think he's just taking his time? You know, just like we talked about receivers. You know, you draft them. You want to get young. Just like receivers, DBs, that's the position. You always want to get cheaper. You want to get younger, especially if you get a guy that can come in and play in the system. Jarvis Landry probably has a price that he wants, you know,

going into these teams, and they're probably far apart right now, especially last year. He played a lot of last year injured and a lot of these people, they don't really care. That's the film you put out. This is your price that we're gonna put on you. And if you come in the building, those things don't match up. Jarvis probably gonna wait it out.

I'm sure he signs with somebody maybe close to training camp, maybe after. Maybe an injury on another team happens, but I would love to have Jarvis Landry in my receiver meeting room. I would love to have him on my team. He is a dog. Dog. He brings it, and he's a difference maker when it comes to moving those chains. He has been since coming into the league, and I think he'll continue to be so.

So whoever does land him I think will be lucky. He'll look real smart. I agree, by the way. Come to the Colts. This just in, the Giants have informed Pro Bowl cornerback James Bradbury that he's being released.

As was being reported, Bradbury had a $21.8 million cap hit and the Giants will save half of that by moving on. He should have a competitive market. What do you know about James Bradbury? He's a Pro Bowler. I don't know if that means

he's great or not. Probably very good. It's going to come with a price tag as well. The Giants are moving on. What are your thoughts on this? And are we in a cornerback market right now? Our corners, because JC, we saw JC get signed. Gillilock just got signed here.

Is there a market for corners right now? I don't know how much will be guaranteed or anything like that. But it's always a market. You're always looking for guys who can cover. You just saw two corners get drafted in the top five. So it's still a premium position. And Bradbury, year before last, had like an all-pro caliber year. Last year, not so much.

But he's definitely still young enough. He's physical. He has all the tools you want at the cornerback position. He'll be motivated. Now getting cut, you know, still in the prime of his career or getting released however they worded it. So, yeah, I think a team, you put him in the right system with some other good people in the secondary, some good pass rushers.

Bradbury could be a very good piece for a defense. We got Kenny Moore right now. We got, obviously, Gilly Lott, Rodgers. We traded for Faison out of Las Vegas. But, you know, I believe you can't have enough good corners on it what you say five or five you need six starters in the secondary that's that's my philosophy so whether that's you know three cities three corners four corners who's the however you cut it you need those guys somebody's gonna go down somebody get hurt matchup it's a league

where you're gonna have three corners on a league 60%, 70% of the time anyway. So I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Bradbury in at all. Yeah, especially with Julian Blackman. Oh, yeah. I love that guy. But Kenny's got to get paid, though. Kenny, Kenny, we need Kenny to get paid.

I need Kenny more to get paid. He's Pro Bowl year last year, probably a year too late. Should have been back-to-back Pro Bowls. Does a lot on the outside and the inside as a slot defender. So we got to take care of our own, but I would love Bradbury to come in as well. And Walter Payton, man of the year, I believe, Kevin. Walter Payton, man of the year as well. Great.

Everybody loves him. Go ahead, Ty. D-Butt, Sauce Gardner's contract was released today of what he grosses and then what he'll actually bring home after tax. I fucking hate him, okay? release today of what he grosses and then what he'll actually bring home after tax um i fucking hate him okay i hate him so that like my question is you know they always talk about new york being like this market that everyone wants to go to the jets have fucking stunk forever and so have the giants do you think guys will see this and be like hey why would i want to go play in new york say

what the number is ty uh so the was $33.45 million after taxes. He got $17.4 million. And listen, he's going to have to rent a house probably. He's not going to be able to buy a house, probably rent a house. That's what they'll tell him to do. That money's just getting dumped in the fucking drain, especially in the New York market. He'll never get that back.

So listen, everybody should- He'll probably have to live in Jersey, get a little better tax situation. Everybody pay their fair share. Listen, everybody pay their fair share. I get it. But God damn taxes. Whenever I got introduced to them, I had no idea what they were looking at.

Man, you look at the guy that went before him. Stingley went to pick before him. He went to Texas. So I'm sure his gross net looks a lot better with no income state tax out there. But is this something you look at? It's definitely something you look at. Some of your aging, your financial advice, all those things talking about but i mean you're still in new york though so that is the biggest media market in the world and as you as a defender it depends a lot

of what quarterback you're on either whether you suck or whether you're doing well they're going to be talking about the jets you're going to be talking about uh zach wilson all year regardless of how he's doing so if his songs playing well, if he's locking shit down, if he's going to Pro Bowls, I'm sure he can. It's tougher as a defender to make that kind of money, but I'm sure he can find a way to make it. I don't know if he can recoup it all back, but it's a good market to be in, especially if you're winning.

Jets knocked this draft out of the park as well. On paper, they look good, so we'll see how competitive they are in the AFC East. But, I mean, that sucks, especially when you see the guy that went right before you and go to Texas. You look at those checks that first time, it's going to hurt him a little bit. Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Nevada. Forget what else. Delaware. There are a lot of corporations there.

No teams there, but a lot of corporations. Do you think all he has to have is one good year, though, and then he'll be able to sell his own sauce? Yeah. He can probably sell his own sauce right now. Yeah, but he has one good year in New York in that market. I mean, he'll create a sauce. He'll be, you know what I mean?

Sauce town. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, though. That sauce will go down here real quick because as quick as they build you up in New York, it'll tear your ass down. That's what I'm saying. You've got to have a good year. You've got to have a good year. You've got to have one good year.

Tomato sauce? Hot sauce? Whatever sauce he wants. Probably hot sauce. He keeps hot sauce in that actual thing. Sauce and sauce probably do pretty good, if I had to guess. You can do a bunch of different ones.

He's got to have one good year. In New York, you create a good pizza sauce. I mean, game changer. You think he has pizza sauce, hot sauce. Yeah. Probably barbecue sauce, barbecue sauce,

sauce, the sauces. Yeah. Sauces, sauce, assortment of sauces, sauces, assortment of sauces.

He's got to have one good fucking year though. Yeah. Got to have a good year. If he has a great year, fucking sauces out the boom, boom, boom. Can't keep them in stock.

Next off season. He's got rid of Bradbury. Same stadium. Bradbury was all pro two years ago. Oh, yeah, hey. Quick out there in the island. Fill into the spot, though. This is good for Sauce.

Go ahead, Connor. I mean, also, Diggs and Tyreek Hill, pretty tough little division. And Mac Jones is throwing. Of course, yeah. Devontae Parker. Through a keyhole. Speaking of Mac Jones, D, but Bill O'Brien, you know, down in Gillette, working with some of the rookies.

Do you expect Bill to just bring in different OCs every week to get their kind of thoughts on what they should do and what the hell is going on there? And then do you see Bradbury maybe reuniting with Joe Judge in New England? Oh, that's a good one. They just lost JC, obviously, in free agency. That wouldn't be bad at all. I'm sure Bill would do his due diligence.

They'll probably bring him in, but that wouldn't be bad at all. You got Malcolm Butler back in the building. But as far as the offense, I don't know what the hell is going on. But I got to put faith into Bill Belichick to figure it out. So is Billy O'Brien, is he a free agent right now? Is he still coordinating? Is he still with Bama? That's the last I thought. He's still with Bama? Yeah, he's still with Bama. So he Billy O'Brien, is he a free agent right now? Is he still coordinated? Is he still with Bama? He's still with Bama? Yeah, he's still with Bama.

So he's just kind of consulting? Saban's like, don't worry. Yeah, exactly. Go help out Bill. No clue what's going on down there. Maybe Matt calls the plays like you've been saying. Hell yeah. That would be awesome if Matt started calling his own shit. Last question here from Tony. We can't thank you enough for your time, Darius.

D, but since you wear boots on a ground down at F1, I, I know LeBron was down there, but they didn't ask him to get in the photo with Tom and David Beckham. Did you, did you talk to LeBron and see if he was upset about it or any, any inside info you give us runner? No, no, no, no, no inside. I mean that picture, that was, that was, that was a legendary picture. Maybe he didn't have enough chips. I don't know. I don't know how many Beckham has.

At least six, I believe. Beckham was making like $7 million a day for like four years when he came to the MLS or something like that. How many championships? He got to have a lot. Who? I don't know much about soccer. Beckham.

Well, there's a lot of different kinds. There's a tournament every weekend. I would say when I talk. There is? Yeah. I'm ignorant. I'm ignorant of soccer, but I know Lewis Hamilton. He's got seven world championships.

Obviously, MJ got six. Tom's got seven. So, I mean, that was a very. Beckham's got six Premier League titles. Yeah, but he didn't win the soccer Lombardi, so. I don't think he won the Champions League either. Did the Champions League even exist whenever he was playing? He does have a Champions League title, yes.

Also, he has seven titles. He's got one in the MLS Cup. Yeah. He does have two MLS Cups, actually. Galaxy were a very good squad. He was actually an owner of the MLS there for a bit. You got to see the damn table. Let's go, Beckham.

Absolutely, by the way. Let's go back. Absolutely. But yeah, that picture was legendary, though. Legendary. Well, I think it was a legendary weekend down there. I mean, just unbelievable stuff. Can't wait to get to an F1 event someday. Yeah. Down the road.

Get into it, Pat. Maybe Vegas next year. I'm thinking there's little to no chance of seeing me at one of those events. What? Yep, that's what I'm thinking. What about Austin? Did you see how everybody was dressed down there? They there like a bunch of fucking jackasses walking around? What is it, 145 degrees down there, too?

Hot. How does everybody do it? How does everybody dress? Am I just that different than everybody? I would be sweating through every one of those shirts that they were wearing. Uncomfortable. It would be terrible. I don't know how they're so cool.

Those are probably like $2,000 shirts. They got some fucking no sweat, no nothing. Beckham, I don't know how you got a damn blazer on. Yeah, these dudes are so cool. I mean, that's nuts. I mean, people, you saw all kind of different fashion out there. Obviously, you got Europeans out there. They're wearing their shit.

You got people from Florida. Who knows what they're wearing. Saw a couple hoodies. Saw a couple hats, suits, bikini. You saw everything down there. It's Florida, baby. Nine more years. Nine more years.

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You look fantastic. You look refreshed. You look A.J. Hawk. A.J., how's it going? How was the weekend? You look fantastic. You look refreshed. You look energized. Great. Everything was good. I am like you where our weather looks to be beautiful this whole week. So it's a good time. Yeah, probably going to get out of the office quickly after the show today.

I hope everybody does the same. Go out and enjoy the sun. It's the first time we've seen the sun of the bitch in a long time. Yeah, too long. Let's go ahead and experience it a little bit. I guess the lake is going to be popping. Can't wait to watch that. Once again, two hours north of India.

I have a house on a lake. Can't wait to experience the summer on that. AJ, you're the best. Tone Diggs, one half of the Hammerdown Cowboys with a look of confusion on his face. Not confusion. Maybe a look of opportunity. Here we go. You do the two-hour drive, so it makes it difficult, but might be able to get nine in.

Oh. Oh. Hey, good call. And get nine in. Oh. Oh. Hey, good call. And we did not plan this. Maybe some swings off the back deck. We did not plan this. I did a Q&A thing on IG Stories last night because I can't sleep on planes. I had a couple-hour flight, and I was, you know, just sitting there all by myself.

A lot of people said, are you and AJ putting a bet on Tahoe? Or what are we? Ooh. I don't know. I didn't think about that. Are we? Well, your experience, I would like at least a stroke or two. Absolutely not.

You are a much better golfer. You know the course. I do not know the course. I've played it 10 straight years. I don't know if you have this brain or not. Someone's like, oh, what'd you do on four? And I'm like, what is four? I have no idea.

I mean, if I played it once. Yeah, if I played it once or twice, maybe I'll be like, I don't remember that. Ten times. I mean, at this point, it should look pretty familiar, shouldn't it? I played that course more than anywhere in my life, obviously. It's a home course. It's your home course. I've never done this.

The pressure. You've tackled people for ten years. I don't know what it's like with the beer box. We can put a bet on it. I probably need four strokes a side. What? Jesus. What's that, points? You're a good golfer.

You shoot in the 80s. I've never broken 80, bro. You know that. There's a big difference there. You shoot in the 70s, actually, sometimes. No. Out there, you're going to be on fire when everything counts and you have to putt six-inch putts.

That's what I'm saying. You're used to all this. So you get no strokes. Nah.'ll see i don't know so i haven't played my first round yet this year we'll see it my first round will be in an outing coming up here well i i bet your game is going to be great you're a professional you play a tall hill every single year on tv you tackle people out there you're a real crowd fan favorite you play you put something on it rider cup champion what would we do points? Points? Just end of the week points? No, it's going to be our score, yeah, wherever you finish in the whole Stapleton system.

Okay, so this thing, bogey is no points, no blood? Bogey zero. Par is one point. Okay. Double bogey. Double bogey is the worst you could do. You pick up after a double. That's minus two.

Try to stay away from those. Okay, and then birdies, what? Birdie might be three or two. I believe it's three. Try to stay away from those. Okay, and then birdies what? Birdie might be three or two. I believe it's three, I think. And then eagle five, probably. Damn. Yeah, five or six, yeah. Oh, so I need a couple eagles.

I need a couple eagles. Alright. It's a hole in one. So that's what I'm going for. I'm going for eagles. They're out there, guys. Guys get eagles out there. It says a bogey is one point. Oh, bogey's worth one point. Not really. And then what's double?

It says this is a stable forward scoring. It's a modified stable forward. Oh, modified. Okay. I don't know what the modified scoring is. Who the fuck is stable forward? I wish bogeys gave you a point. Is that Sheila?

Sheila's stable forward. Sheila's stable forward, yeah. Oh, okay. What is this? Well, I heard him say stable forward scoring, so I just typed it in. Yeah, but who the fuck is Stableford? Is this a member of the Sheila Ford family? Start the tournament.

I like it because you don't have to have a handicap. You know when people go, you don't know who the best player is when you have handicaps going in. I don't have a real handicap. This was a system developed by Dr. Frank Barney Gorton Stableford. He lived from 1870 to 1959. Dr. Barney Frank Stableford? Dr. Frank Barney Gorton Stableford.

Can't walk into that guy's office and feel comfortable with him doing anything to you. What's your name again? Frank Barney Gordon Stableford? I might change my name to that. Gumpy Barney Frank Stableford? Gorten with a T. Oh, Gorten. Yeah.

He loved golf, hated golf, sucked at golf, wanted to figure out how to score points? Mm-hmm. It's deter golfers from giving up on their round after just one or two bad holes. There you go. I like this doctor. I don't give up. Come on. You got points.

Also speeds up the pace of play. Okay. Rate of play, rate of play, rate of play. Because you can pick it up immediately. You stink. You have points. Also speeds up the pace of play. Ready to play, ready to play, ready to play. Because you can pick it up immediately. You stink. You're slow. Get out of the hole. See you later. Whenever you pick up, let's say you miss a putt, do you go back and practice that putt again?

You can, I think, after everybody's done. I absolutely never have. But yeah. Let's go to the phones. If I practice a putting like that, it never is going to feel like it feels when you're standing over go to the phones. If I'm putting like that, okay, it never is going to feel like it feels when you're standing over there for in the moment. Here is Dr.

Frank Barney Stapleton, Gordon Stableford, alpha. Nailed it. Dr. Frank Barney, Gordon Stableford, stable.

Uh, we're, we're 30%. Uh, we think that's him. Uh, 30%. Hey,

old white golf. That you guys search for. That mustache is spectacular. All the time. Think about when he walked in to pitch this scoring system to his country club. This is what I'm thinking, gentlemen. This guy lays it all out. Bogey, one point. Double bogey, minus two.

Don't get on double bogey train. You get a birdie, though, three points. Now we're talking out here, boys. What a fucking... Imagine him just twirling his mustache, though, right, when he's inventing all this. It's like him and Khan and all the guys. Doctor, we think you're right. Doctor, goddammit, with a mustache like that, how can we not fucking take your advice?

Look at that guy. Bow tie as well. Yeah. Stud. This is classic old white right here. Changing the world for the better, though. Yeah. Actually, we don't know.

Hopefully. What else, Doctor Frank Bar. Actually, we don't know. What else, Dr. Frank Barney? We also don't know if that's actually him. So a lot of question marks, I guess. But if he didn't do anything terrible, which we should assume he did if he's a part of golf and he's old. At some point. But if not, hey, thanks for what you did, pal. Thank you, Barney.

Frank. Gordon. Staple. Ferd. Is it Staple Ferd or just Staple 10? Chris? Oh, Chris. Is this Staple? It is great, great, great.

Staple Ferd as if like a horse stable. Okay. Did he invent the stable? If this guy fucking invented the scoring system and a stable, I mean, this guy. That's pretty impressive. That mustache is the least impressive thing, which is the most impressive thing I've seen in some time. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Matt in Wisconsin.

What's going on, Matt, on the 5RNG phone line? Hey, boys. How we doing? Game moving. That was good. That was good. Yeah, this question's for Connor. Have you always known or did you just find out this weekend

that the entire Celtics roster and fan base are a bunch of bitch-made cats after watching Giannis put 42 on your head. Boston's dead, dude. What's this guy talking about? Why are you getting dumped on all the time by everybody and they're all right and you are deservedly so? I think probably because a lot of the times I am

a stooge and a sellout, but the Celtics are going to be just fine. You never sell out Boston, though. Never. That's why they're going to win tonight, then they're going to win on Wednesday, and thenics are going to be just fine. You never saw Boston, though. You're always on Boston. Never. And that's why they're going to win tonight. Then they're going to win on Wednesday. And then they're going to win on Friday. Is there anything that can make you turn your back on Boston?

No. Connor, for the Boston sports. No, never. How about losing on Boston Day? Nothing. The only thing, that was tough. But the only thing that could probably make me turn my back on Boston sports, not as a whole, but specifically the Patriots, is if they fire Belichick.

That will never happen because he's GM and lead counsel. You never say never. You never know. That'll never happen. What if Robert Kraft gives him what he's done to all the players? Like, hey, time to take you out and back and shoot you instead of letting this thing carry on. Bill respects it.

I didn't expect to get a gun like the same way I did Teddy Bruschi and Adam Venturi and all you other guys. I fucking ran out of this building. That'll never happen. like the same way I did Teddy Bruschi and Adam Venturi and all these other guys. And Brady and everybody else that fucking ran out of this building. Nah, that'll never happen. And the only way I think it does happen if he says, my time, my watch has ended, it's now Steve Belichick's team. He passes the torch right to his son.

Is he a legend up there? He has to be, Steve. I love Steve. Everyone with a brain knows that Steve Belichick has to be the next head coach of the Patriots. Just hand it over. Yeah, just keep it going. It's a royal family up there, the Belichicks.

Oh, yeah. Pass it down. Steve, he'll have a son, and Steve's boy will then also become a head coach for the Patriots. So really, probably for the next 300 years, the head coach of the Patriots will have the last name Belichick. Wow, just like the royal family in England. Exactly. The sun used to never set on the English Empire. Now it's just this tiny little town, basically,

over there in Europe like everybody else. Yeah, but the Belichicks... That's what's going to happen to the Patriots? No, no, no. Because the Belichicks don't have Prince Andrews walking around the halls, some absolute rat fuckers that maybe kind of caused the family name...

You know what he did. Caused the family name a little shame. We know what he did and what he was doing. Prince Andrew, the red-headed kid? No. The guy, Epstein's right-hand man. He's in Epstein's black book. Yeah.

Who? Prince Andrew. The red-headed? He had a thing where he didn't sweat back then. The balding guy? The balding guy? The balding kid? No. No. Older generation The balding kid? No.

Older generation. Older generation, yeah. He's like their uncle, I think. Yes. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. We have none of that. He was in the show you watched.

Was he? Yeah, he's in The Crown. Is he the Duke? He's the one married to the queen? No. He gave up to go get married to, what's her name? It's the brother of the queen. I believe so, right?

Because isn't he the one that AJ's talking about who married the lady? He was the king before? Queen's pretty old. I think it's her son. Queen's son. Didn't he marry the divorced lady? Is that what you're about to say? Diana?

Third child of Queen Elizabeth. Okay, so the son. Wait, third child and second son of Queen Elizabeth II. That's the queen, right? Read the sentence again. I thought they were all called queen. No, no, just read the... Queen Elizabeth, but which Queen Elizabeth?

Wasn't the other one Elizabeth too? I think she was king beforehand. It was king, king, king, queen, I believe. Who's the one that was a limo and got killed by the photographer? That was Princess Diana. Rest in peace, by the way, Diana believe. Who's the one that was a limo and got killed by the photographer? That was Princess Diana. Rest in peace, by the way, Diana. Yeah. Fuck that photographer.

The queen's father was Henry, right? King. He loved duck hunting. Loved it. That guy loved fucking pheasant and duck hunting more than anybody on Earth. He was damn good at it, too. Queen loved horses. That's what I heard.

Yes. And then they'd take the ponies and the guns around. Still how is the queen queen still doing it oh yeah she's crushing i stopped watching after my queen was no longer the queen on crown so literally she might i don't know if she died or not in the rest of the series yeah it doesn't make sense they should have just cgi'd i don't know why they you know changed the queens you guys listen to the podcast with harry and megan markel never with oprah they got like 50 million i don't think why they changed the Queens. You guys listen to the podcast with Harry and Meghan Markle? Never. With Oprah? They got like 50 million.

I don't think they put an episode out yet. Pretty good deal, actually. Oh, you're saying this sounds like a no-show job here. Well, no, I just think, I don't know. I know Obama has a podcast with Bruce Springsteen, too. They get paid a bunch of money. National Geographic. Zito just said we have breaking news on the Queen.

I mean, I didn't want to be the one that's breaking this news. What's going on, Zito just said we have breaking news on the queen I mean I don't want to be the one that's breaking this news What's going on Zito Third time ever she's going to miss the opening of parliament Holy shit That's not good She's old She's like a thousand It is a king's disease

Queen's disease as well Same chef Can I marry her The queen got she's like a thousand it's a king's disease so i assume queen queen's disease as well same chef probably yeah anyways can i marry her the queen yeah yeah what happens you're a lord now though yeah so that's the reason why i can marry her right yeah because you're in the family you're in the royalty yeah because they all kind of cross pollinate right they all do oh yeah yeah how is your land over there? It's pretty good. The grass is pretty long right now. It's crazy that they're selling pieces of grass like they used to sell stars to people.

Yeah. Remember they used to sell stars in the sky? Oh, yeah. Still do, I think. Somebody gifted me a star one time. I did not take care of it. I have no idea where it's at. Oh, it's gone now?

I don't know. Maybe. I don't know where it's at. I think it was right next to the Big Dipper. Oh, nice. Pretty good real estate, I think, but I lost track of it. I couldn't find it. Was it a super giant or was it a?

Just basic ass, tiny ass condo star. I think it was a star. Tiny little star. So a young star. Are we going to space? Let's go to the phones. We're definitely going to space. The way Jim Irsay was talking, the way things are happening with everybody talking about

the moon and the space hotel 2025 and aliens are being released. It feels like they're gearing up for us to go to space. I not going am i going no do you want to go you mean to go stay there for an extended period of time or to go live there what are you talking about i don't know i wouldn't mind go snooping around your star yeah but i don't know where it's too far take it on one of these well i i don't want to if we're gonna go meet some people though i would like to potentially be a part of that conversation that That'd be a pretty cool little thing. What if as soon as we shake their hand, dead? Exactly.

Can't do it. Can not do it. Hidden buzzer in the hand trick. Yeah. Like a fart. It makes like a fart sound like, and then boom, dead. That's certainly possible. Well, I'll have my own tricks for this fucking alien.

Yeah, you need a couple people to go first, have them get burned up or whatever by whatever the aliens want to do in the beginning, and then trial by fire. This is where I'm too ignorant. I have no idea how that would work. I can barely live with gravity. How the fuck are people doing it anywhere else? That is what, 120, 200 years from now? But everybody's talking like in the next 10 years it's going to happen. I mean, don't astronauts have to go through years of training to know how to function and live up there?

How do they expect people to just fucking one weekend head up there and go stay in space? Well, I hope that this clip gets used someday when they're talking about space like they had with those... That guy who had the button under the thing on NBC. Matt Lahr. What is the internet? There's that clip that always pops up or whatever.

Maybe it'll be like that for space. If there's space and there's a sport, I hope it's basketball. And I hope there's one person covering it. And that's co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast, a man who is all-knowing when it comes to the NBA, friend of the show. We can't thank him enough for joining us, ladies and gentlemen, Quentin Richardson.

Yeah! Hey, real quick. As always. Hey, they quick. Guys, as always. Hey, they're talking about space as if that's like next week. Have you heard that? That's kind of been like the turn of the tide. I don't understand how any of that will work, Quentin. No, I agree with what my man over there just said.

Like, astronauts have been studying and preparing to go up there for years. How is God going to just go up there for a weekend? I don't get that either. Well, it'll happen hopefully someday while we're alive. It doesn't seem likely, but let's move along. James Harden's back. Hey, James Harden's all the way back. This is good news.

The step back seems to be clean. Is Philadelphia going to make a run at this thing? Because just a couple weeks ago, Doc Rivers was being called the worst coach of all time, and Philadelphia was dead. Are they all the way back now after yesterday's 31 points from James Harden? I think you see what the impact of Joel Embiid had on the team. I mean, I know he missed the first two games,

and they looked like it was completely over with. But, I mean, now with him being back, and obviously last night with James Harden, you know, reaching that 30-point-plus plateau that he hadn't been able to do, I mean, they look as formidable as ever right now. And whenever you think about Lil Wayne called Luca a hoe, okay? Luca a hoe, Lil Wayne says. Because, you know, Chris Paul had like, what, four or five fouls in the first half or something,

and he ends up fouling out when he tries to get a call. And then there's that altercation in the crowd between the Mavericks drunk white doofus and Chris Paul's family. And it kind of – what is going on in that series? Is it getting ugly? Or how will they handle that fan situation with Chris Paul's family? Because it's the first time where Chris Paul, who I think is the head of the MBPA, the union, was like,

no, fuck that. Like, something's got to be happening. Feels like something's going to take place. Right here, Q? I would hope so. I applaud CP for not going over there and handling it himself. That being that close,

I might have went over there myself. I had a teammate, Antonio Davis, during the game. I forget what year. We were playing for the Knicks. We were in Chicago, and his wife was getting into it with somebody. He beelined literally from on the court

off the... Stepped over the scorer's table, went out there and grabbed his wife, and then he ended up suspended two games for that. But it was like it was the craziest thing. But I understood it. If I was that close and this is mom and his wife and his family, like, nah, that's crossing the line.

How do they fix that? How do they fix that whole situation in the NBA? Because the NBA, like that type of like getting that personal with the game, being that close to the game is a massive part of the upside for how much they charge all the people down close to the court. But it feels like it's been much more active as of late. Do you think it's a society situation? Do you think it's a generational thing?

How do they fix it or can they? Yeah. I mean, when you say how do they fix it, it's a tough thing because as a player, we have family seats and our seats are, you know, kind of scattered right there amongst the crowd.

You expect the society and the people. You don't want to ruin the whole experience and the fan experience because you have a few idiots here and there that are doing stupid things. Hopefully, as a society, we can police ourselves and police each other and continue everything to be harmonious the way it has been in the past. But as a lady, like you're saying, it has been getting out of hand, I feel. Quentin, when you're watching Dallas play, or when I watch Dallas play, I see Luka and what he does.

The dude is so crafty and so big and can shoot from anywhere, these crazy shots. Like, when these guys practice, what do they do offensively? What do you say? Hey, like, here we go. Clear out, fellas. He might get you a shot. Be ready if he dishes to you.

Like, are they running set plays over and over? That dude has the ball the whole game, I feel like. I mean, obviously, every team is going to have their offensive sets and things like that. But superstars, you know, they dictate what happens in the game. And Luke is one of the best at it. That's why he's, you know, an all-NBA guy, all-star in everything else he is. He's one of the best at manipulating the defense and manipulating the game

as well as the referees and making him very tough to officiate because he can, sometimes it looks like it's a foul, but it's really not. Sometimes it may be because he's bigger than guys and sometimes he may get fouled and it may not look like it. So he's a difficult player to officiate and a game plan

for. And also probably play alongside and hopefully they'll be able to find the right pieces down there because he is a superstar. Another superstar that we're not going to see anywhere near enough of, it feels like. Joker's a guy, huh? Hey, this is a guy. They put up all his stats.

2,000, 1,500, like the first guy to ever do that. Yeah, first 2,000, 1,500 season ever. First average 25, 13, and 6 in a season ever. He's averaging 27, 14, and 8. First player in top 10 for points per game, rebounds per games, assists per games, field goal percentage in the last 50 seasons. Highest PR ever. A worthy MVP back-to-back.

He's out, right? They're no longer in the playoffs. I never see him either, it feels like. I don't really know much about him. If you're not an avid basketball fan, I feel like you don't get to see as much as this guy. How much longer is this dude going to be able to do this at his size? And are we missing out on the prime of somebody

who's a fucking absolute game changer in Joker? I don't think, I mean, when you say, you know, people that don't watch basketball, I don't know how much you're going to see of him off the basketball court. He's not somebody who's on social media, who's making himself very available in that aspect i think he's a kind of a you know a personal dude with his family and things like that but as far as him being on the court you're right he's he's absolutely a a boy and a man in this game and um yeah i think he's gonna be good like this for for at least three four or five more years because the thing about him he doesn't have he doesn't rely on an overwhelmingly like you know athleticism or a big strong muscular thing

like everything you you look at him you think he's on the back side of his career right now is when you just look at his physical he doesn't do anything like athletically that jumps off the page but his fundamentals and his his skill at passing and his footwork and the things he can do close to the basket, being able to shoot the three, being able to really be a point center, you know, running and initiating offense from the top of key is all those things are out of this world and off the chart. And those things really don't deteriorate that quickly with A's. Those are like the last things to go is use your athleticism and speed

and things like that, and he relies on none of that. What is he, 7'3"? 7'2"? I think he's 7'0". 7-something. I know he's at least 7 feet. I'm not sure if he's 7'3", but he's 7-something. Usually 7-footers now, obviously Shaq is different,

and I assume there's more that I'm missing out on, and I apologize. But he is, he moves like he's literally center, point center or whatever. Watching him play like three games, I'm like, wow, I fucking missed the boat on this one. I missed the boat on it. It happened to be the night where he did that no look in the paint and then did some other stuff. He was wide open.

I'm like, who? What is this guy? Back-to-back MVPs, congratulations. Here we go. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Quentin, obviously Jason Tatum didn't have his greatest game on Saturday. Do you think it would be wise as a Celtics fan to bet on him to score 40, 50 points tonight just because the Celtics don't win, we're in a pretty tough spot?

This sounds like me talking to either my nephew or two of my best friends who do the draft kings and the fan duels and all that. I'm terrible at saying whether you should bet with or with. I think that Tatum responds and he has a big game. But, I mean, the game actually kind of dictates whether it's going to be 30, 40, 50, because I believe he'll have a big game, but that big game could be 25 and 12 and like eight assists or something. But I understand for the sake of your betting,

I'm terrible at giving it points on that. Dude, Jason Tatum, 40 points plus 1,000. This is right in your fucking brain. Well, I mean, what is it for a triple-double? Because he's going to have 25, 12, and 8. So he might as well just take triple-double then. He's over under there, 28 and a half points. That feels very attainable for a guy coming off a bad game,

especially who he is. Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah, I think he responds. I think, you know, for them to go where they want to go, they need Tatum to lead and to play well like he's been doing. Go ahead, Tone. Q. Rich, so this kind of bothered me.

Memphis's head coach kind of used the word yanked when he was talking about Jordan Poole and what happened to John Morant's knee and stuff like that. It didn't look dirty at all to me, but, like, the way that he came out in the press conference and said yanked like that, how did you see the whole play? I kind of agree with what's being said. To me, that's like coaching and posturing.

They lost Dylan Brooks for a game basically because of what Steve Kerr came out and how he addressed it. And, hey, the heat of the moment, maybe Memphis coach thought that he could influence that in some way. But I totally disagree. I don't think, you know, that the play was dirty or that Jordan Poole is dirty. I mean, you know, as a player, I always view it two ways. I look at what actually, you know, was done in the act and in the play and then who was the person doing it.

What is his history? Has he ever done things like this? And neither one of them match up. The play, you know, he was reaching for the ball. We all know when you're reaching and you're trying to strip or something, there's a chance you hit his knee, leg, calf, anything, or anything that's in that space. It's not necessarily saying, like, you know, how precise

and how quick he would have had to change his thought to say, oh, right here, right now, I'm about to grab his knee. Like, that's crazy. It wasn't intentional. And then when you look at Jordan Poole's history, he's never done anything questionable or anything questionably dirty in the history that I could think of, and nothing has come up since he's done it.

And you know if he did anything, they would have threw it up there at us already. Very quick. Not dirty, so I don't agree with that. Okay, let's move to Memphis, which is absolutely glorious. John Morant out with a knee injury, but their record without him is very good. It's like 22-5 or something like that. Why is that?

Because in football, sometimes when a star player goes out, everybody else has to lift their game, and the game plan isn't necessarily just revolving around them. Is that similar to the basketball game, or why do you think they've had so much success without their outright superstar who everybody seems to love? I think they're a very unique team in a very unique situation. Because when you have a superstar at the talent level and at the, you know, ability and what he's translated to when he's played for that team,

you usually would see a team take a big step down and lose a big something. But for whatever reason, these guys have thrived when he's out. Guys have stepped up and filled in. You know, Tyus Jones has been great at backing up point guard. And other guys have stepped up and made up for what he would, you know, certainly deliver on his from his points and everything. So, I mean, to me, they're a unique situation because most, almost all if not, you know,

almost all of those teams that had a superstar at his level, when they lose him, they're going to not be as good of a team. Go ahead, Ty. Quentin, these playoffs have been awesome so far, and I feel like whenever we talk about other sports, people always mention how the speed of the game picks up big time during the playoffs. Is that the same deal in the NBA?

I mean, it doesn't, because, you know, anytime you hear about guys getting sped up, it's usually in a negative connotation. What is the biggest difference, you think, as a guy who played between the playoffs and the regular season? I think that the biggest difference between the playoffs and the regular season is that now everything is much more intense. Everything is game plan. Like if you're going 82 games, it's a game here, a game there. You're just moving along.

It's a different style report every other day. two games it's a game here game there you just moving along it's a different scouting report every other day once you get to this seven game series everything has to be better because now we they're they're game planning and locking in on all tendencies plays you got to have like the great coaches have different plays that they bring up here and there in the playoffs that they say that you might see one one time or two time the whole year then you have to go into those type of situations and i think everything is just heightened man from the crowd to the to every game being on tv you go from you know if you're a team that hasn't been on national tv and like every single game is on national tv and that's a different aspect than what you're used to on a regular game i think everything that you know mental focus and everything is just heightened

it's it's a it's a different game. The game is called different. I feel like the refs let you play a little more harder and physical and let things go. They necessarily wouldn't go in the, you know, early season time. So playoffs is when it's it, man. That's when the legends are made. I don't want to sound like a layman or a new or a casual, but I mean every game being on primetime television,

like this is when the NBA season starts for a lot of people. That has to be a realistic thought for the superstars, right? Like LeBron not being a part of this has to be killing him, right? Absolutely. I mean, LeBron wouldn't be LeBron if he wasn't pissed about not making the playoffs and not being, you know, playing in these playoffs and being a part of the biggest one. I mean, you don't make it to being, you know, the best player in the world or the best player of a generation and all of the things that LeBron is known to be. He's going to be top three, I mean, you don't make it to being, you know, the best player in the world or the best player of a generation. All of the things that LeBron is known to be, he's going to be top three, top five, wherever people want to argue and make him. But he wouldn't be able to be that if he didn't have that competitive fire that sitting this out absolutely crushes him and gives him fuel to go get back ripe so next year this doesn't happen again.

Have you hopped into the top five game before in the past and what is it uh you mean with lebron no just players of all time have you done are you a guy that does that because i am not somebody that would do that but if you have done in the past i would like to hear it i don't i don't do it much i just leave it off and say that michael is the best ever and i'm not debating that with anybody. MJ, Michael Jordan. Best ever. What makes him the best? Everything. Everything you've seen. His scoring,

he did everything at the highest level on both sides of the basketball. He was a defensive player of the year. He's led the league in assists. Obviously, he's led the league in scoring millions of times, but the biggest stat is that he made it to the NBA championship finals six times, and he lost zero times.

And he never went to game seven because he made a damn show of it wasn't going to be one. Absolute dog. He's an absolute dog, too. But don't you think LeBron would have played well in that era as well? They both would have played well in each other's era. I think LeBron would have dominated and played well in any era. I do. I think he would have been great in that era as well? They both would have played well in each other's era. I don't think LeBron would have dominated and played

well in any era. I do. I think he would have been great in that era. I think Michael is the GOAT. What about Shaq and them? Isn't there different rankings too? Because who could stop Shaq one-on-one back in the day whenever he was in stop? I don't think anybody... I can't speak for

the Bill Russells, the Kareems, and the Wills, but from what I see, what I saw of Shaq when I came in the NBA in 2000, I don't speak for the Bill Russells, the Kareems, and the Wills, but from what I see, what I saw, Shaq, when I came in the NBA in 2000, I don't think anybody in the history of the game was more dominant and more physically overpowering than Shaquille O'Neal. They can argue about skills and this, that. When you say most dominant, you're talking about a force of nature. They call him the eighth wonder of the world for a reason. He was unbelievably dominant, massive, huge.

He was strong, ain't even a word for it. It was crazy. And he's, by the way, still dominant. He was selling printers. Oh, yeah. He's DJing. He is the man. DJ still getting gigs?

Yeah, acting. That thing's only growing like this. I mean, he's on insurance. He became the face of Frosted Flakes, acting. That thing's only growing like this. I mean, he's on insurance. He became the face of Frosted Flakes, too. Did he? And Papa John's. Bought JCPenney. Chacaroni bought JCPenney.

Sold his thing from Reebok to start his own thing. I mean, he is. Fucking cop, sheriff. And the coolest dude ever. The coolest, nicest dude ever. That's the best part about him. The big fella always wants somebody to have a good time and have fun. He's one of the best dudes ever.

Absolute legend. As are you, sir. Who's going to win it all this year? Man, right now, I got to go. If Milwaukee can get by Boston. Which they probably are, right? No. If they can get past Boston,

it's hard for me to go against them because Giannis is showing me again in them first two games, I thought Boston had them figured out. Okay, they can't, you know, like the game one, they kind of stunned them, but then game two, he came back and game three, too. So now it's like he's showing me right now

that he he's saying I'm the best player in the's saying I'm the best player in the world. I'm the best player in the world. It's like I'm figuring everything y'all try to throw at me. Y'all say back off me. I'm going to hit a jumper. Y'all say crowd him and do all this. Like, he's finding a way to still plow his way to those crazy,

unstoppable numbers and helping his team get wins. No. You guys are dead. No. Thank you so much for joining us, man. You're the best, dude. All right. Anytime, fellas. Thank you. Hey, great job on first take. You guys are dead. No. Thank you so much for joining us, man. You're the best, dude. All right. Anytime, fellas.

Thank you. Hey, great job on first take. You guys killed it. Ladies and gentlemen, co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast, Quentin Richardson. Yeah. AJ, do you have anything on Magic Johnson joining the group led by 76ers owner Josh Harris to buy the Broncos? No, I do not have anything on that. Hopefully they win.

Good luck to him. Give me a lot of money. We need Magic doing more dumbbell curls on his yacht. I love when he does that. Yeah, Magic on his yacht is always awesome. And then his tweets are always like, hey, it's sunny in Indiana. He's amazing.

He's the best. And he just released that doc on Apple TV. He's not as good as Elon Musk is at Twitter. No. Oh, yeah. In case I die, 170,000 retweets. Unreal. It was nice knowing you guys.

Russia's got me right in the crosshairs. It's not just Russia, by the way. He owns Twitter, the largest town square on Earth that can yield a lot of power, potentially. There's probably a lot of people that would like to see elon go back to the planet he came from oh yeah but we need him sorry we need him he's our guy yeah he still he has a lot of work to do still so does he no the american government what's that wouldn't feel the need to protect him not that they're trying to at all.

I think America has adopted him. No, but I'm saying, like, shouldn't... Doesn't the world kind of need Elon at this point? So shouldn't we have some sort of protective around him? Depends who you ask, bud. Maybe the CIA does. Yeah, I know, AJ. I know, I know, I know. Well, allegedly he was working with CIA, right?

That's what was said in... Or the Pentagon dropped off the Starlink. Uh-huh. That's what the Russian... Which is bad news bears. How about he tweeted at the guy that said he wants to die on his platform. This is what this guy just said about me, which is like, basically, Elon needs to die. That guy's tweets are protected.

And Elon owns the... Yeah. What a wild scene. Elon's got to wake up every day and be like, what the fuck is going on? What's going on today? What is going on? Somebody on my platform just made an announcement that he wants to kill me. And then I'm going to quote tweet it.

And I'm going to say, nice knowing you. This is all on Twitter happening at the same time. Wild stuff. The best. Let's go to Isaiah in Phoenix. Beautiful city. Beautiful city. What's going on?

Are they going to beat the Mavs? Well, Luke, oh, no. Says little Wayne. No. No. Okay. Keep it knowing. Keep it knowing. This is not good. Anyway, my question is

what do you guys think about the Falcons taking Desmond Ritter over Malik Willis? Apparently there was a report that came out. It said Willis lacked signature moments in college, and that's why the Falcons ended up going with Ritter. Wellik Willis. Apparently there was a report that came out. It said Willis lacked signature moments in college, and that's why the Falcons ended up going with Ritter. Well, I mean, they could say that he played at Liberty. Anybody could say that he played at Liberty at any given point, Isaiah.

You know what I mean? You're in Phoenix. You're a Mavs fan. You don't like the Suns? No, no. I'm a Bucs fan. Go to hell. Well, they're about to bury the Celtics. No, no, no. Celtics being Connors, sorry. They won the one on Saturday. What? What? Trash called Well, they're about to bury the Celtics. No, no, no. No, no, no. The Celtics beat Connors. Sorry. Not true. Not true. They won the one on Saturday.

What? What? Trash called. End the game. Marcus Smart was shooting three. Should have been three free throws. Tie the game. I agree.

I 100% agree. Maybe go Celtics. Probably should have. Desmond Ritter, what do you say? Everybody's going to fucking pay for this or something like that? They fucked up. Got them fucked up. He's a dog, I think.

That's why I'd assume Artie Smith is very pumped to have him in the building. He was compared to Marcus Marietta. Marcus Marietta was there for at least a year or two to show him maybe how to be an NFL pro. He's been around. Is Desmond Ritter the future of the Atlanta Falcons? Is that how it's being painted? I don't think so, right? This is like maybe.

Yeah, it feels like. I mean, yeah. Yeah, it's like a maybe. Could be. We'll see. They're hoping it's a great Yeah, it's like a maybe. Could be. We'll see. They're hoping it's a great value pick. Then he does turn in to be that guy. I mean, what's the only question, I guess?

I haven't watched enough of him playing. I know he started for 60 years, it feels like, at UC and won a ton of games. But didn't they say he's just not as accurate as other guys, at least in college? Yeah, but, I mean, they can make an excuse. Seems pretty accurate to me. I'd have to watch all of his throws again. But I don't know. I think it's a great pick in the third round.

Are you kidding me with how athletic he is too? I like what he can do. Well, and he's just been in the moments, which I think is big for maturity. I think maturity-wise- He's played with a lot of expectation too, don't you think? Where he's the guy. He started for so many years. You see, especially these last two seasons, have had all eyes on them.

Like, hey, if we lose one game, we're screwed. Went from zero expectations to all the expectations. He was able to handle it all. I think that's worth something. Value. Third-round pick. Why not? Yeah, and they have time, right?

Obviously, it's Brady and the Bucs, but all the other teams, like the Saints, James, two years. The Carolina Panthers are still looking for a quarterback. If he does get any sort of playing time this year and does well, then they kind of have a future where every other team in the division doesn't really have that guy they'll be able to make an excuse about anybody though like him saying malik doesn't have any signature college well he played a fucking liberty so well they had the um has that ever been a knock before in a quarterback i haven't heard that as a knock on a player well they just make shit up whenever

they don't like somebody you know like they can just make shit up oh he won the taekwondo roga 2 trophy but is that is that mean anything we're talking about lombardi's like anybody can make up anything if they don't like somebody i mean they said the same thing about josh allen kind of coming out him playing at wyoming it was just he was so you know he's an athletic freak but also if like the falcons really stink this year and they're in like the top three picks next year getting rid of this year isn't going to deter them from drafting a quarterback yeah i think it's a maybe. We'll see. Alright, let's get out of here. Let's go enjoy this weather. Hell yeah.

Enjoy your golf game. I don't know if it's going to be hard to get on any course. Well, I don't know. Because maybe people aren't golfing today. Hit some balls in the lake. You think it's Steve's course? A lot of courses are closed on Monday. A lot of country clubs. First really nice day of the year here, the courses are going to be open.

People are going to be playing. Like South Grove, maybe? I'm not playing at that place. Steve's course. Steve's course will be wide open today. Yeah, well, most days, I thought. Well, they got that cat running around. Yeah.

That's awesome. What? They got a great cat. Just lives on the property. Fucking moved in. How you doing? I live here now. Tom Cat runs around at night, fucks everything around town, comes back, sleeps on the couch

in their bro shop every day. That's Steve's course. Really? Yeah. Cat's awesome, too. Cat's very cool. If you're allergic to cats, they're not the course for you, because that cat is going to be around.

Hot dog's pretty good. Steve makes it with love and care. Oh. Burger's not bad. Who's Steve? The owner? Yeah. Owner, tour pro, chef, groundskeeper.

Wow. Wait, did you know him before this? Why Sage? No. I literally, as soon as I walked in, the way Steve was handling himself, this is your course, huh? The way he was talking, he's like, yeah, yeah, this is my course. I'm like, here we go. Steve's course.

So I started diving in now a little bit more. And I ordered a hot dog accidentally. He went to the back. He made it. And I said, you guys have anything else? We got burgers, too. Might as well take a burger. Give me one of them.

Steve goes back, takes a burger. I'm trying to support small business. And then this fucking cat comes out. And I started looking around the pro shop. And I started looking around. I'm like, who picks up? Steve does. Steve picks up everything.

Five tool player. Yeah, Steve's the picks out? Steve does. He's a five-tool player. Steve's the guy. Fucking love him. Nice course? Gorgeous. The weather is tough. A lot of character. The weather's tough here in Indiana. There was a couple of tee boxes that didn't even have boxes, really.

That was early in the year. Early in the season, wasn't it? I assume today Steve brought his best stuff. It has grass. There are 18 holes in the ground. early in the season, wasn't it? I assume today Steve brought his best stuff. It has grass. There are 18 holes in the ground. What? That's what I asked for. That's a big part of it.

I thought it was a nine-hole course. What? Yeah, I just thought maybe it was just two nine-hole, and now you run it back. You're going to say something like four different times, I think, you pump fake going into that small little microphone. Oh, no, yeah. I was just going to say a picture of Jim Irsay just came out

from the kick in the stigma, and he looks good. Ladies and gentlemen, do you know this picture of Jim Ir microphone? Oh, no, yeah. I was just going to say a picture of Jim Irsay just came out from the kick in the stigma and he looks good. Ladies and gentlemen, this picture of Jim Irsay. Oh, yes. I believe he's auctioning off the Kurt Cobain iconic guitar from Smells Like Teen Spirit right now.

To his right, Kalen Irsay, his youngest daughter. To his left, I don't know. Maybe something to do with the auction? Yeah, it might be

a curator of uh guitars look at that that's some peter king in them uh that is his desk what does that mean connor guy kind of looks like peter king oh that's his office i'm thinking i don't know i don't i don't he's got guitars hung up it's got to be something one of his offices it's a great desk the helmet's in the back, too. Golly. Alright, hope everybody gets in the game. We're out of here. I guess I'm stabbing me in the nose. I can't take it anymore.

Here's the deal. I'm sick of this. When you've got a big sniffer, though, things can happen. We're back tomorrow with a massive show. AJ, who are you booking on the show tomorrow? Big Tuesday tomorrow. I've got a couple people in the works right now. I'll let you know tomorrow. I got a couple people in the works right now. I'll let you know tomorrow. You got a couple lines in the water out there?

Yeah, we'll see. Here we go. We'll see if they come back. It is Tuesday. You chumming a little bit out there? Always chumming. Always chumming. Always chumming.

Just like Poopies. When Poopies got his hand cut off. Bit off. All right. We hope Poopies is okay. Poopies is broke, too, man. I feel bad. He got to buy his merch.

I'll buy Poopies merch. I don't know if it's sold out. But Poopies has no idea if his merch company is operating or not. That guy's got no brain. But I do appreciate it. He doesn't. We all saw it. I think that's what we love about Poopies. Yeah, I'd like to get Poopies on. If Poopies sees this, I would love to have you on this program.

Me as well, Poopies. I'd like to have you on the show as well. Someone send this to him. We need you, Poopies. We need Poopies on the show. Come on well, Poopies. I'd like to have you on the show as well. Thank you. Someone send this to him. Need you, Poopies. We need Poopies on the show. Come on, Poopies. Atta baby, Poopies. Come on now, Poopies. Come on now, Poopies.

Love to talk to Poopies about his life decisions. Yeah. Sound awesome. He's electrifying. Can't wait to chat with him and more. That's tomorrow, right, AJ?

That's tomorrow, hopefully, yeah. Come on, Poopies. Come through for us. All right. That's how you book a show. We'll see you tomorrow. Bye. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្វាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពី Thank you. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. Bye.