The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 664 - Jarvis Landry Signs With The New Orleans Saints, Ian Rapoport, Tim Peel, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 16, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about all the different game 7's across the NHL and NBA this weekend, Drew Brees potentially leaving NBC or going back to play for the Saints, Jarvis Landry signing a 1 year deal with the Saints, Jaire Alexander getting a massive extension with the Packers, and everything else happening in the sports world. Joining the progrum to chat about everything happening in the NFL including Jarvis Landry's suitors, the Jaire Alexander deal, and much more is NFL Network Insider, Ian Rapoport (29:31-56:54). Later, NHL Referee for 20+ years with over 1400 games experience in both the regular season and the playoffs, Tim Peel joins the progrum to chat about the officiating in the playoffs, how officials impact the flow of the game, his hot mic incident, and more (1:37:07-2:04:47). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is Monday, May 16th, 2022. A new sports show shall begin. Can't thank you enough for joining us on this glorious Monday. The weather has been fantastic in Indianapolis all weekend. A little bit of a rain delay on yesterday, I believe, but the sun has been shining. The heat has arrived, and times should be nothing short of spectacular, especially coming out of Game 7 weekend. Now, this weekend was packed to the gills with Game 7s, both in the NBA and the NHL. Quick recap, the NBA Game 7s, all blowouts yeah dogs are dogs and the losers were losers and now there's you know some beef that was basically buried until next season and some players you know stamped and put a flag down in dogville and others are drifting away into getting

buried on sports media for the next week or two for losing the game sevens in the way that they did, which was absolute, you know, blowouts. Yeah. Embarrassing. Now, the NHL, on the other hand, their game sevens were electrifying. A couple of them went to overtime. And the good thing about this game seven weekend for the NHL and how great it was is it'll be the last time we talk about hockey until next playoffs because hockey is officially dead in this office,

which is a damn shame. Pittsburgh Penguins lose game seven against the Rangers after obviously having a lead not only in the series but in the game. They end up losing. Tristan Jari was back. Sidney Crosby was back. Malkin was playing. Letang was playing.

All of our bests were there and playing, so there's literally no excuse. Coach Sully's been coaching since he won a Stanley Cup back-to-back with the Pittsburgh Penguins, so we've got a great coach, greatest player of all time, great characters, great cast of characters alongside, great goalie back in that, and we still lose game seven of the game that matters. And for the

fourth straight year, the Pittsburgh Penguins, the greatest program in the history of hockey, are out in the first round. And now I have to look in the mirror and ask the tough questions. What the fuck is going on with the Pittsburgh Penguins? Nick Marano, that team should win everything all the time.

Especially against that sorry-ass New York Rangers program. Now, the bar in Madison Square Garden was live. It was loud. It was awesome. But on the flip side, who cares? We're the Pittsburgh Penguins. Sydney missed game six with a headache, they're saying.

Now, hopefully we'll hear more after the season. This is kind of the time where we learn about all of the incredible injuries that the NHL players have been playing through. Because in hockey, they only describe it as an upper body injury or a lower body injury. As soon as the season ends, it's like, hey, this guy actually had a broken radius and this and played through the back half of the season while skating, checking

and just battling through. Hockey players are incredibly tough. They said Sidney Crosby missed game six because of a headache. Is that what happened, Nick Morano? And is this Pittsburgh Penguins team officially done? Is the era that brought me so much happiness and so many nights on the south side and north shore

and out here in Indianapolis, is this thing all over? Because they got new ownership in the middle of this last season. New ownership normally likes to make things their own. And this coach is always going to get called. And old Malkin's going to get called. Letang gets attacked. Sidney Crosby, obviously greatest of all time, going to be able to do whatever he wants, hopefully, but

it feels like we continue to lose in the first round, and I can't take it anymore. My heart can't take it anymore, Nick. What the fuck happened yesterday, and how do we lose that game? Pat, the simplest way to put it is they got goalied. Again, they controlled a lot of the play throughout the series. At 5-on-5, they were the much better team. They lost the special teams

battle, and they generated so many scoring chances. It was insurmountable, the scoring chances. They generated over what the Rangers did, but when you look at it, Chesterkin was the difference. He didn't play great in the two games in Pittsburgh, but he bounced back after that, made the stops he needed to, and kept the Rangers alive.

Younger, faster team. They wanted it more in game seven, and they got it. No, they didn't want it more. We wanted it. We wanted it a lot. We wanted it more in game seven, and they got it. No, they didn't want it more. No. We wanted it. We wanted it a lot. We wanted it bad. Yeah. My thing is, Tristan Jari early saw the puck. Yeah, he did.

Popped up in the air, snagged it, no big deal. Had the dangles. He looked like he was all the way back. Hadn't played in five weeks. How many weeks has he been? Four weeks, yeah. Four weeks, hasn't played in a month or whatever. Long time.

Game seven, thrust him back in there. But he's a guy. Yeah. He's a guy. Gotta be a guy. Earlier in the scene, I put a tweet, whatever. A long time. Game seven, thrust him back in there. But he's a guy. Yeah. He's a guy. Got to be a guy. Better than Domingue. Earlier this evening, I put a tweet, definitely better than Domingue. The king?

We seen that on Friday. That guy fucking paddled up over his head into the fucking net. I was trying to commentate on SmackDown, and it was showing up in my phone. The old King Domingue just giving up goals that we have never seen before in hockey, in professional level. Anyways, Tristan Jari, I put out a couple tweets. He's seen the puck. Whoa, here we go.

He's got dangles. I thought I was putting in the universe good, positive vibes. Sure. Everybody was telling me I jinxed this guy. Does he stink? Does Tristan Jari stink, Nick? Is this guy sick? He was an all-star this year.

His first game back, his ankle's still broken. Oh, I hope he played well in the all-star game. I hope that was a lot of fun in a three-on-three. They've got to figure it out. I would like to continue to talk about hockey because hockey playoffs is a lot of fun.

I think everybody that watched Game 7 weekend this past weekend would say, hockey's a blast because of how good the games are. We can't talk about it anymore.

Nope. Damn shame. Las Vegas team, done. Boston Bruins, Game 7, done. I was hoping to go down and play against the Caniacs. Right. 20,000 strong down here

in Raleigh. I thought maybe the Pens would do it. But instead, whenever we have a lead in game seven, okay, instead of just going five, six wide on the goal. Sure. For the rest of the game. Sure. Right.

Just let's go. Plug it up. You want to build the wall. I want to build it. Turn the skates sideways. Build the wall. A little plie. Uh-huh.

Mm-hmm. Maybe take the hands behind because the wrists are exposed. Yeah. Just go six wide on that net for the last period and a half when we had the lead. Good luck. Boom. Good luck scoring against the wall. It's tough to beat somebody that never moves their back row.

Bingo. That's what I was hoping we would do. That crossed my mind for a good four minutes after we got up 3-2. I'm like, all right. Build the wall. Stack up the net. Maybe everybody on their force. Maybe on force.

I don't get as tired because it would be tough to sub, I think, if this was our strategy. Sure. But we should have. The boys were laying it out. They were blocking shots. They were putting their body on the line. They were doing all the things you need to do to win except for taking a penalty

in overtime. Can't do that. Just can't do it. There's a lot of conversation about what should be a penalty, what shouldn't be a penalty, and when guys should be forced off the ice and when they shouldn't be forced off the ice and everything like that. And we'll talk to Tim Peel.

Okay. Tim Peel reffed in the NHL for how long? 20 years. 20 years. Long time. Now, I'm not saying this guy's made every call a good call. This guy is not. Probably not.

I don't think this guy's the Gene Sterritore of the NHL. I'm not 100% sure if he is known as the greatest ref in is not. Probably not. I don't think this guy's the gene steritor of the NHL. I'm not 100% sure if he's known as the greatest ref in the history of NHL. I don't know. I haven't looked into it. But I do know 20 years in a league means you've been doing something right. This guy knows the game a little bit. He's been mic'd up before. We've heard him mic'd up before.

He seems to have a great personality. I'm going to ask him about some things going on in the NHL that I'm not happy about. How did Sidney Crosby get that cheap shot that maybe it wasn't a concussion, I guess? How did he not pause the series to make sure he comes back healthy and keep that thing going? We'll talk to Tim Peel in the third hour. That'll be our last NHL talk. At Boston, Connor, you had a weekend bachelor party over there in—

Charleston, yeah. How was it? Did you run into Ian Rappaport? How was your weekend? No, I didn't run into Rappaport, and I was hoping that I would because I've been working on my forearms, and I was going to give him a mean wedgie. But instead, we just kind of were at the beach. We were golfing a little bit.

What year is it? Well, I mean, what's it do? 2022, giving Rapshite a wedgie. Yeah, maybe a noogie, and then, you know, hey, come here, Rapshite. Wedgie. But no, instead, you know, watch the Bruins lose, unfortunately, like you mentioned. But then the Celtics, they delivered on Sunday, thank God,

because back-to-back, your experience in the one Game 7 loss, back-to-back Game 7 losses for Boston would have been the end. Yeah, I found it interesting that you guys were in South Carolina for this massive weekend for Boston. A lot of people from Boston you were with this weekend or no? Yeah, actually I think everybody. How was it? Pretty good? Was it too much Boston? It was a good time. Definitely not too much Boston.

It felt good to hear a couple other people say, you know, oh, this game's wicked sick and stuff like that. So it was nice. Yeah, the wicked. Yeah, a little taste from home. Got some Dunkin' Donuts. Don't get to do that often either. So, you know, it was an awesome time.

There's a Dunkin' Donuts right down the street. Because there is one. There's literally two Dunkin' Donuts. There's one right by my house as well. So when you come into my house next time, go ahead and get Dunkin' Donuts. Perfect. I might have to get, like, the two-gallon box of iced coffee because it was great to have it again.

Again, it's literally available right here. There's two Dunkin' Donuts. I had some Saturday morning. Yeah, actually. Me too. By the way, yeah. The East Coast. Bacon and cheese croissant sandwich.

Oh, so good. They definitely deliver an iced coffee. Oh, yeah. It's right here in Indy. It's not the same coffee as they have on the East Coast. You did it in South Carolina? Yeah. You think South Carolina Dunkin' Donuts better than Indiana Dunkin'? It's right here in Indy. It's not the same coffee as they have on the East Coast. You did it in South Carolina? Yeah. You think South Carolina Dunkin' Donuts better than Indiana Dunkin'?

It's pretty good. I mean, they're closer to, you know, New England, so I think they kind of get the residual. I think. I have no idea how the map works. They're closer to the water. I'll give you that. Yeah, they're touching the Atlantic, so that means a lot. Oh, so you're saying because Dunkin's coming via the ocean.

Bingo. Delivery. Yes, exactly. We get the ships that come down from Boston, and then they go, I think, into the Kiowa Island. Happy you had a great weekend. Yeah, it was a good time. It's a shame the Bruins lost, though.

Yeah, it is a shame. But right back on that horse, as soon as they lost, it was like, okay, boys, we can't wallow in our sorrows, if you will. We've got to go on to the Celtics because that's another game seven, and now we're in the Eastern Conference Finals. Ty Schmidt, obviously you enjoyed the weekend. You enjoyed the, we went goffing yesterday. We did go goffing.

We missed your presence on the show on Friday and goffing. Yeah, I missed you guys golfing. I mean, it looked as though you guys were hitting some bombs, making some pops. That's pretty good golf. Not bad, and battled the elements. You couldn't really tell in the video you posted. It was raining hard the last, you know,

probably three or four holes we were out there. Yeah, we thought we were getting a free round, ended up paying like $400 for it. Yeah, we got bamboozled a bit, you know. Expensive nine holes. That was a very, wow, a siren was forcing us off the last hole. No one was going to golf anyway. It was a beautiful course.

It was. It was a beautiful course. The carts, I mean, I don't know if they were Benz or like Rolls Royce carts, but, boy, the seats in there were so comfortable. I believe yours actually died midway out there. But outside of that, you know, it was. It was that nice of a golf cart. Jesus.

It was a good time. How fast did they go? I don't know. It was raining so. I mean, it was raining very hard. The elements were. I will say it was a beautiful course. It was very nice.

Had played there before. Would play there again. Got invited to go play there by somebody that worked there for two weeks. I guess we found out when we got there. Good dude. Good guy. Good dude. We ended up having to pay full price in a second.

Right up the bill. Good guy. Thought we were playing for free. Did not know that. Then we got there. Well worth it, though. We are supplying a good course. Yeah, it was a good course.

And you have to be pretty happy with how you played as well. I do feel good. Yeah, you should. I do feel good. The net that Justin Thomas was potentially burying there, at least I'm getting a repeatable stroke, I think. I think that is a big deal. And just making solid contact.

The putting green has really been a game changer for me. A lot more confidence stepping up behind a four or five footer this was on nine while we're getting tornado siren off the course you know what i mean that was when we would lead into paying for everything and we're like oh okay we had no idea right no no is that the only one that wasn't expecting it oh by the way don't normally get free shit hate free shit yeah because when you get free shit always need to pay back people uh-huh so i don't like So anytime somebody offers me something free, by the way, never, ever, never do it. Because you're going to hold that over my head forever. Normally how things go through my life, that's what I've experienced.

So I don't even enjoy it. No, I mean, I went in there to buy a couple balls. And usually that's when they charge you for the round. And they made no mention of that. And it's a private's just like it wasn't until afterwards it wasn't until very afterwards where we were charged it was like oh my god before you guys leave we need to settle up need 400 he's like all right sounds good we would have played steve's course yeah yeah would have played steve's course although we did get a chance to play a very nice course uh maybe that's the new thing we do maybe we travel around course the course we'll pay 400 to play a very nice course. Maybe that's a new thing we do. Maybe we travel around course to course.

We'll pay $400 to play. We'll pay $400 to play. If you have a course, that is our max. We apologize. There will be five of us. We would like to cruise around. We'll have some music and tunes on. But we need to get ready for Tahoe, which I think yesterday did. So I appreciate you boys braving the elements out there.

Gumpy, obviously, played a great round. Gumpy was crushing it. That a baby Gumpy, obviously, played a great round. Oh, yeah. Gumpy was crushing it. That a baby, Gumpy. Hell of a round. Yeah, we got muted. It's still muted. Hell of a round for the lot.

It's always good to get out there. A couple good bub lights out there. We've made for those as well. Those are $6 bub lights. Thank you for those. I appreciate it. That was actually Nick. Nick made for the food.

Yeah, thank you, Nick. That was awesome. That was a wild seat. Yeah, sounds like you got that kid promoted, though. I mean, as soon as you guys left, he was probably like, look what I just did. I just swindled these guys out of 400 bucks. They didn't even let me pay for a tip for after the round.

Like, I would have. They probably would have got $500 out of me if they were paying. You know what I mean? They probably would have got a good chance if it was only one signing part there. But what a moment. Yeah. That dude's listening right now, for sure. Oh, yeah.

Beautiful course. Thank you for tweeting us and telling now for sure. Oh, yeah. Beautiful course. Thank you for tweeting us and telling us it exists. We've been there before to any other courses. We got about $400 to come play yours. Need to get better. Can't wait to talk to AJ Hawk about it. Congrats to not Spieth. Spieth had the lead all weekend.

Him and Justin Thomas were battling at the Byron Nelson. There was a bunch of people like 21, 22 under, which I think a lot of golf fans hate. I love it. I like seeing guys slicing dice course. Old Cush drove the green. I think there was like numerous people that drove the green a few times. I enjoy it when that happens,

although I guess the old established golfers do not enjoy that type of play. They like seeing the course beat up the guys a little bit and everything, which has its day. I think whenever they go up to Europe and they're battling the wind and it's impossible to play and you punch it like 200 yards, hoping to go in the right direction, I think that's fun. I think some of the courses when they're incredibly difficult are fun because it's almost more relatable.

But watching guys slicing dice courses is fucking cool, and that's what it was this weekend. Who ended up winning? The South Korean KH Lee was 26 under. Gordo was 25. Shoffley was 23. Justin Thomas was 23. It was a good ball tournament.

They were going. They were controlling the ball. And I guess that's back-to-back wins for old... Yeah, at that tournament, yes. Yeah, at the Byron Nelson. Now, Justin Thomas did tell us that this was strictly just to get ready for... This week. This upcoming week.

That's right. We've got a major this week. Yeah, we do. Justin Thomas hitting the ball well. Spieth seems to be playing well. I don't know why he didn't win it down the stretch. He had a commanding lead there for a bit. And by commanding, I mean like one or two strokes,

eight, nine holes in to his Sunday round. So is that going to be on his mind going into the majors? I don't know. I also saw their $19 Michelob Ultras at the PGA Championship. At the place where we're? At the PGA. You too. PGA Championship. At the place where we're? At the PGA. You too. PGA Championship this weekend.

Probably where you played too. Well, I don't know. I didn't get the breakdown. Nick handled the food and beverage. I think 10 is probably pretty reasonable. Yeah, I think so. All right, let's chat about some stuff that's happening around the NFL before Ian Rappaport joins us in about 13 minutes.

A.J. Hawk will be in the second hour. Hopefully your phone calls on the 5-Hour Energy phone line, 1-833-4-MACIFI. I cannot wait to chat with you. We got interns in here now? Oh. Well, it's one intern, another just like hanger on. Yeah, sure.

Hey, I don't know what you're thinking. I'm out of here on Friday. I thought it was a package deal. Yeah, well, I mean, I believe they were coming into the world. Coming into the world, they were a package deal. Yeah, well, I mean, I believe they were coming into the world. Coming into the world, they were a package deal. Now, I do believe that one has to go back and accomplish, you know, hopefully a champion. Get one of these. A champion.

Get another one of these. And the other internal will be here, I guess, for the next couple months. How long does this last? I don't know. What is the normal? I mean, it's off the hot side. September school starts. What is the normal? I mean, it's after a lot for the summer. September school starts. Probably through the summer.

You know, hopefully he will learn everything he needs to learn to go out into society. Hell yeah. And make the world a better place. Like you need a laptop. You would think you show up. Now, to be clear, I'm not good with interns because I don't like interns. Don't want interns. But good friend says, hey, is there any way you could potentially?

I'll do it. I should have probably had an entire thesis ready for him. Like, hey, this is what you're going to need to show up with. This is what you should plan on doing. This is how this is going to work. Because the way this operated was, hey, sit down. What do you do? What are we going to do with you?

How do we go about doing it? Seem like great guys. Oh, yeah. go about doing it seem like great guys oh yeah good kids seem like great guys raised right huh raised right i think so i mean i think so it feels like it that way feels like they're hard workers what i was told yeah but no laptop day one internet company wild to me well i was also just telling these guys like in college you don't have laptop like what are you dicking around on during class so like that maybe your cell phone the one was overqualified yeah yeah he's built a fucking computer right so but that's so he can snipe people call it duty exactly so he doesn't have

any lag in the thing yeah right him and bill yeah we're having a full anime virus conversation whatever's going on the other guy hey just here for a couple days. I'm here to help move in. I got some other stuff to do. Two dudes, zero laptops, one internship. Bold. Internet company. You might think they're 85 years old. These guys are good guys, though.

They're going to come around, aren't they? Oh, yeah. Let's go. Here we go, boys. We'll send them out in the world properly, right? Oh, yeah. That'll be something we'll think about doing. Let's talk about the NFL news that has taken place. Jarvis Landry, back to the New Orleans Saints on a one-year deal

with $3 million guaranteed, basically, and then another $3 million of earning incentives, mostly based on individual stats. A good value option for New Orleans while Landry gets his one-year deal that allows him to get paid again if he produces. This is via Ian R rapaport and others breaking this news on friday at about 4 40 after the show ends friday night friday early evening appears to be the time that everything happens maybe we should game plan for this going into

the future maybe we should think about this as a show that goes off the air at three every single day on friday and everything happens immediately after we get off the air. But Jarvis Landry going back to New Orleans, back to Louisiana, is a sweet thing. Him and the Honey Badger, you know, going back and playing together. They already got the photos posted. You can see what they're trying to build and what they're trying to do down there. Jameis Winston has a plethora of weapons now. Michael Thomas, Alvin Kamara.

Then you look in the gadget factory, Taysom Hill is still down there. Jarvis Landry is available. This entire squad could go on to do some incredible things. A couple follow-ups. Drew Brees says, maybe I'll play in a pickleball tournament. Maybe I come back to the NFL. He says that after tweeting, holy hell, with all, this is Drew Brees'

exact word, despite speculation from media about my future this fall, I'm currently undecided. I may work for NBC like I did last year. I may play football again. I may focus on business and philanthropy. Maybe. Maybe. We'll see. We'll just go one and one, by the way. I do really good at the first one. That second one normally follows.

Every big time business person is known as what? A philanthropist. That is right. So maybe I'll work on those two. Who knows? I might focus. I may trade for the pickleball tour. Senior golf tour maybe.

I'll champion some good luck. Hey, good luck, Drew. Is that golf tour a shot at you? I don't know what it is. I think it's a shot at him being retired and being older. But I just want to let you know, how old is he? Forty-what? Forty-three. Forty-three.

Forty-three years old. I got eight years of head start on you of training for the seniors tour. Yeah. Okay. It's called the champions tour too. Have a little bit of fucking respect. One time. Anyways, maybe he coaches the kids. Yeah. Or all of the above. Maybe he coaches his kid. Plays in the champions tour. Plays in the pickleball tour

that he is so damn good at pickleball. Maybe he works on his philanthropy and his business. Maybe he plays football again. Maybe he works for the NBC. And maybe he is still undecided. All of the above might be true. Drew Brees says, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing next year. How does anybody else know what I got going on?

But this announcement comes shortly after a couple tweets where he starts looking at all the weapons that the New Orleans Saints has and says, man, it would be a lot of fun to maybe throw them the football. It would be a lot of fun for me to maybe get back into football. Man, signing Jarvis and Tyron Matthew makes me want to come back and play again. Great additions. Leaders and players. That's fucking cool. Drew's back.

Let's go, Drew. The thing about Drew is he's never going to miss an opportunity to make it about himself one last time. What did happen with him at NBC? Allegedly follow-ups were he didn't enjoy the in-studio work. He enjoyed the analyst and broadcast part of the game. But the only thing you can do really at NBC on game is Sunday Night Football or Notre Dame football.

Andrew Marchand of the New York Post reported on Sunday that Drew Brees, the broadcaster, is out after one season at NBC. Marchand reports that Brees wants to do games, isn't a fan of being in the studio, and there wasn't much for him to do outside of Notre Dame booth after Chris Collins were signed a contract extension recently. Did we know that? No, I didn't. Congrats, Chris.

Hey, way to go, Chris. Hey, how's it going, Chris? Howdy, baby. Chris and T Congrats, Chris. Hey. Hey, way to go, Chris. Hey, how you doing, Chris? Howdy, baby. Chris and Tariqo. Yeah. Interesting timing by Breeze with his next two tweets. In his first one, he said the Saints were signing Jarvis Landry, and Tyron Matthew makes you want to play a little bit again.

Nine minutes later, he tweeted he's undecided about his future. Huh. So friends of Drew Breeze are allegedly telling reporters, one friend of Breeze told me Sunday night he hasn't mentioned playing football to him this offseason. Okay? I'm a good friend, Drew. We push sleds in the parking lot together.

We're part of the same workout cult. That's right. We pray together. We got Little League baseball together. Drink smoothies. We're having smoothies together. Yeah. Smack a tight amount together.

Yeah, elbowing unassuming people in the forehead. Well, it was more top. Yeah, it was actually neck, I guess I should say. That's what happened to Ty by Drew Brees, but his friend who's really close to him said, hey Pete, listen, he hasn't mentioned me at all playing football. No. I mean, every once in a while we're getting

a hot dog next to each other at the same baseball game because our kids are playing baseball. Let me tell you, his kid's got great arm. Yeah. Great arm, good player. Now his other son, you know, kind of can't turn to real well. So he's actually asked me to kind of can't turn two real well. Not building the outfields well. So he's actually asked me to kind of coach him because I had a little bit of time in the minors.

So me and Drew's relationship has really gotten pretty big. And he hasn't told me one time about playing football in the offseason. Not one time. And his left shoulder surgery May 2nd at age 43 after not playing football for 16 months would seem to make a return to football problematic at best. Another person who knew Brees told Peter King, he's not playing football. No.

That person knows Drew Brees real well. Yeah. He's not playing football. Business philanthropy? Maybe. Sure, maybe. Touching with his kids like he does with me? Huh?

I'm that source, by the way? Maybe. Who knows what Drew Brees is going to do? It doesn't sound like he's playing football at all, though. Jameis Winston's got to be sitting there and saying, you know, when I was a kid, I thought my passion was football. But then I found out when the game was taken

away from me that my passion was playing football. Actual quote from Jameis Winston on NFL Network. Now Drew Brees is trying to take away the playing thing again from Jameis. Jameis can't be happy, but he's got to focus on himself. But that Saints team, they ever won $70 million over the salary cap not too long ago. Now, with

additions of the Honey Badger and Jarvis Landry, restructuring everybody's deal and a quarterback that they're focused on, a lot of Saints fans are getting chirpy on the internet, and I think they should. I think there's good reason for the Saints fans to get chirpy, even though we thought they were fucking dead. When Sean Payton retires out of nowhere,

maybe to become an owner of the Miami Dolphins? Sure. That has not been legitimized or confirmed, but that retirement did seem to come out of absolute nowhere. They're $70 million over salary cap. They got no damn quarterback. Now here on May 16th, it feels like they got some direction and some hope.

Good for the Saints, man. And just like looking at the previous drafts, these rookie wide receivers, they get Olave, too. Like, they actually do have a very good offense, good O-line, and it feels like their defense isn't going anywhere. Yeah, they hired from within with Dennis Allen. Nothing really changes on that side,

except he got the honey badger now. Good leader, right? Everybody loves the landlord out there. Jarvis Landry, good leader. Coming back to the Louisiana roots, too. I want to see the Saints do well. Good for all parties down there. You know what else is good for all parties? Any publicity.

Yeah. I learned that from a report this morning that involved a lot of very successful people, one of them being Jerry Jones. Oh, yeah. Jerry Jones speaking about his Dallas Cowboys in an interview with Peter King is fantastic. To Jones, there's no such thing as bad coverage of the Cowboys. Bad coverage makes the Cowboys human. And he is positive his fan base loves the human.

Okay. Okay. Okay? Good to know. Yeah. My fan base loves the human that makes us human, and the human that makes us human is the Cowboys and the way we operate. Let me tell you a story, Jones says.

To Peter King, warming to this topic, a few years after I bought the team, I'm out in Los Angeles, La La Land, my hometown, having lunch with David Hill. You know David Hill? David Hill, one of Murdoch boys, Australian, man. And Ed Gorin. Ed Gorin, not Australian, actually from Carolina, I do believe, but pretty important, big swinging peckers at Fox Sports. At that time, there were a lot of negative headlines about the Cowboys.

Michael Irvin was in the headlines. People were saying the owner's an outlaw. So that day I told him, listen, I'm going to fucking tighten up the lid on this franchise. We're going to get control of this team. And David Hill, Australianian man one of the heads of fox sports he jumped up and he said no do not touch my boys they're television gold don't even fucking think about it the foibles the soap opera the issues they create interest yet in the senior bowl i can't see what's next but free agency the draft training

camp we always got something going on people follow us year in year out owner every year every now and then gets it in the paper it just adds to the interest all of it people love the cowboys well you're goddamn right and i'm to force the Cowboys down everybody's throat forever. And that was the moment that the fucking Dallas Cowboys were on primetime television every single weekend. David Hill, Australian man, pretty high up, I believe, in the Murdoch world. Murdoch owns the Fox thing and is also the person being represented, basically, in succession. Yes. Which adds even more intrigue to the entire conversation. This might be Tom Walmsgat.

Yeah, it's going to be Walmsgat. But David Hill told Jerry Jones, like, no, no, no, no, no. You need to have the eyes of a network or the eyes of a business whenever you're looking at the Cowboys because they are. They're chatted about in every single regard. There was actually a rule that we were told by one of the heads of TV. And I'm just going to say heads of TV because this is one of the people that just created modern sports television.

Yeah. All right, here you go. You get your topics that you think are big on the day. Then you go ahead and you hit LeBron James. Then you go ahead and hit the Cowboys. Then you go ahead and wrap it up with Tim Tebow. And then, boom, we're back at the top with all the stories. And then guess who's back?

Go ahead and hit LeBron James. Go ahead and hit the Cowboys. Tebow's got anything? Fucking hit Tebow. And then, bang, guess what? You're back at the top. The only average watch time or listen time is 12 minutes. You're able to get everybody.

If you have a two-hour show, guess what? You actually have eight shows because you have a two-hour show, guess what? You actually have eight shows because you have eight 15-minute shows. You have a three-hour show, you have 12 shows. Look at what you're doing. This is just basically what it is. You do this, the Daily Hot Topics. By the way, if LeBron

or the Cowboys or Tim Tebow are part of the headlines of the whole it's a good day. This is a good day. The Cowboys basically became that in everybody's minds. And I think it all begins from this conversation with the TV executive where Jerry Jones is like,

we need to actually let the bullshit out. If somebody doesn't like something I'm doing fine, let them fucking talk about it. If they talk about it, guess who they're talking about? The human that is Dallas Cowboys. And guess what human they're going to see on primetime, fucking 18 weeks out of 18 weeks.

Even on the bye, we're going to have our players getting interviewed during the primetime games. They're going to see Dallas Cowboys. I think the way Jerry views his team is why it is so successful. He said he thinks he could fetch $10 billion for the Dallas Cowboys right now if he was to sell. Bought them, I think, for $100 million or something like that. If he was to sell it for $10 billion,

I think it would be an understatement, especially with where the NFL is headed. If he put the Cowboys on the market right now, Elon just bought fucking Twitter for $46 billion. Bezos wants to get into the game. And then there's numerous people that we have never heard of that get the most popular, the most famous, the most forced down everybody's throat team of the biggest league on earth.

There would be an overpayment for that by far. Jerry knows it. Don't love that he's necessarily thinking about it because I think the league is much better with Jerry Jones in it. But the way he operates is fucking cold-blooded business. I think Jerry kind of looks at the Cowboys. Not only does he want them to win and stuff like that, but he also kind of looks at them like the WWE.

It's entertainment anywhere and everywhere, and everything is good. Any way that you can get eyes on your team is good. Maybe he doesn't trust Steven Jones. Maybe that's why he wants to. Well, Steven Jones also told him not to show that entire draft card so he's like fuck this guy and that was good news for our company joining us right now is a man that breaks all types of news good news bad news any news maybe even makes up news sometimes that's what the internet says all the time about this guy fresh off a golf trip in south carolina where connor was he was lucky he didn't see connor because

connor said he was going to give him a wedgie. Which I didn't even know those still exist. I don't think he even would have been expecting that at all. He played like 72 holes. It would be tough with your underwear up your ass. Joining us now, the senior NFL insider for NFL Network and the NFL as a whole. The host of the weekly wrap-up of the

Rap Sheet and Friends. Us being friends, he being a rap sheet. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. What's up, pal? So, Connor's phone didn't work in Charleston. Was it bad service? Because sometimes I drive through kind of like the woods there, whiny roads, and the call wouldn't pick up. So, is that what happened?

Did you call him? No, I thought he would call me I mean just kind of be like hey bro like we're kind of like around the court maybe come like hang out but I didn't I must have had bad service no I don't have rap she's never I sent him like 15 DMS so did you really just say why don't you follow me no I did actually address that at a certain point, but I definitely DM'd him, I believe. So why'd you blow off Connor? What's that about?

What's this all about? You don't want to hang out with Connor? I would say that's not accurate. I didn't get any DMs. Usually if someone slides in my DMs, as Connor claims he did, but obviously didn't do, I would get a ding, probably right in the middle of one of my backswings, which I did not get.

So maybe next time I'm on a golf trip in Kiowa and you're in a bachelor party in charleston maybe then we'll maybe next time we'll meet hey we saw you golfing on nfl network don't you think you're hey a little bit you know a little bit too much there you think a little bit uh you know abuse leads to restriction you're out there golfing on nfl network in front of everybody you know garofalo said it was a bad swing good swing yeah i mean it was you know left side the only thing that was a little too much was i kind of drew it around a little bit i wanted to have it settle um left side of the green two putt par and i will say this like we've you know i've been through a lot of my career there's been been a lot of big moments, some not so good moments, some stress.

Live TV golf shot while everyone's talking to my backswing and still getting on the green. One of my greatest achievements, I would say. Let's go. Congrats, man. I mean, you guys were six wide at that time. Yeah. So I'm assuming a lot of people were watching a lot, a lot.

And that was going to hit the internet regardless. We could not see where your ball went. not one bit not one bit this is like um when i used to punt in front of a crowd you know there'd be like uh let's say there was kids or something out there and i'd hit a bad ball or let's say there's bloggers out there or scouts or anything like let's say people that could cover the game were out there and i would hit a ball and i would uh mother fuck myself if it was bad and then i hit a good ball i wouldn't say anything i forget who came up to me and was like you know if you said nothing after your bad ball nobody would know nobody wouldn't nobody would have any idea they would think that you

meant to do what you were doing there but as soon as you say ah fuck everybody knows it did not go how you thought it was going to go just something to think about if you would like to cover your tracks or whatever and i was like that's brilliant so now every time i watch somebody golf you know on on the internet i try to at least get a little glimpse of where the ball is going because if you just do a pose and hold it. Yeah, it's the hold that does it. I mean, there's, oh, my God, this guy just put the ball exactly where he wanted it to go. So what I'm saying to you is because you guys had 15 people on screen at the same time, your screen was like this big or whatever,

we would have no idea if it was good or not. No, swing was great. Swing was smooth. It did. Yeah, I mean, it was a really nice shot. The other thing that does it, the hold is good. The twirl, you can hit it into the trees. And if you twirl, everyone's like, wow, that guy really got a hold of that one.

Just a quick, you know? Yeah, drop it in there. Let's follow up with some bad things you've done in your career. Matt Corral said you're full of shit. You hear this? Did you hear this? I did. You got added a bunch, I assume, right? Because we talked to you about the Matt Corral said, you're full of shit. You hear this? Did you hear this? I did. You got added a bunch, I assume, right?

Because we talked to you about the Matt Corral thing. Because it felt as if, in the way the Matt Corral conversation happened by you, friend of the show, noted good guy, by the way, I think. Oh, yeah. Fair. I think you've been fair through a lot of things and having to cover a lot of things. I don't think anybody would say you weren't. But the way the Matt Corral coverage happened, I think we were all surprised.

We're like, whoa, rat, this kind of came out of nowhere. You said to us, had to explain to people that were wondering why Matt Corral had fell. You only had like 20 seconds. Maybe the way you delivered it wasn't as good. I think you took ownership of that. But now Matt Corral's coming out and saying, that has never happened.

I never talked about that. Do you hate that your name is still involved in this and this is not what you're in this business for at all? And how do you feel about the entirety of the situation now? First of all, this is part of it, right? Like, it's the same way that when players go out there and don't play well that people criticize, like, you get the good, you get the bad. Like, me saying something publicly, like, there's always a possibility

that when I say something publicly, it's going to have some sort of negative backlash or someone's going to be upset about it. I don't mind. I mean, I wish everything was roses, but it's really not a big deal because I did say it and there's no hiding it. And like, it's out there. The thing that I would sort of take issue with is I believe Matt Corral said that he never said that so the quote from him and I believe this was a CBS article. He was talking about he said I got tired of feeling like that just making tired of making excuses I got tired of having vices for my problems like drinking I don't even drink anymore.

And that's what I was referring to. And he says he never said that, but he did say it. So he was calling it a distraction as opposed to a problem. You're reporting it more so as a problem. So there was a little bit, I think, of a miss, right? Don't you think? Wait, I mean, I don't spend time with Matt Corral daily, so I don't know how this is. The hope for me and for him is that this is something that is in the past.

And if this is just a blip on his radar screen, like that would be amazing. What I was saying to you guys, though, was like I was what I addressed was what he addressed publicly. So when I mentioned drinking, he had mentioned drinking. Got it. Got it. Okay. to what he addressed publicly. So when I mentioned drinking, he had mentioned drinking. Got it, got it. Okay, so it was in the way he said it with, I feel like he was trying to explain that he is more dialed in than he's ever been. Like, hey, even though this is happening, I kind of cut this off.

And by the way, as somebody who did this very similar move in my career, I have 100% faith that Matt Corral is going to go on to have success and you can change and you can move on. I just think he probably took exception with how you're reporting it as if, you know, I don't know. It's fucking weird whenever you start having to report on personal things. We would just like to talk sports, but you've got to do that all the time. Let's talk sports, and let's, by the way, Matt Corral, go get him, dude.

Go get him, dude. Jarvis Landry, Who all was interested there? Do we know? Were the Saints by far his biggest offer? Or was he taking a little bit of a discount to go back to Louisiana? Because there's a lot of fans and a lot of fan bases out there saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, we could afford a $3 million deal with another $3 million in incentives for one year with fucking Jarvis Landry.

Yeah. The reaction, I should never be surprised, but I was surprised by the reaction from so many fan bases and others when he signs for a deal that doesn't look that big, you know, the possibility of 6 million, like, okay, that seems fine. The fact that it's a base value of three is, you know, for a veteran with a big name, it's, it's pretty low. Um, he had a nice offer from the Browns, uh, that would have been a pay cut. And a lot of times guys would just, even if the pay cut offers better than what he ended up getting, a lot of times guys would just

rather take the other team. Cause they don't want to, they don't want to take a pay cut from their current team. He remember basically told, like, I'm not going to take this offer. You should cut me. They cut him. And then the Browns went away because they drafted someone basically in his role, I believe David Bell, the third rounder. So like when that went away, he lost a little bit of leverage. The Ravens had some interest, but it didn't sound like a ton. So I think the opportunity to make six and to just do a one-year deal was what drew him. And look, the money's low, but the one-year deal is important. Like you'd rather that over a three-year deal, because let's say Jarvis takes this little one-year deal and kills it. Then he's

going to make real money next year because he just signed a one-year like that. The money is fine. Having the one-year deal is really to me the big value here yeah absolutely can re-up once again i think he's gonna have a great year hopefully jamis is able to be an absolute stud next year because the amount of weapons that they have them being 70 million dollars over the cap just a few weeks ago and sean payton retiring out of nowhere to what seems like a pretty steady leadership they have great you, you know, skill players, role players. Taysom Hill focused just all the way in at being a little, you know, gadget guy. They might be in a great spot down there in the NFC South.

Obviously, Tom Brady's still there. And I think the reason why Jarvis Landry and others don't appreciate pay cuts from their own programs or where they are, because it's hard not to get past the thought of, you've seen what I've done for you. Like, you've seen what I've done in the building for you. You've seen what I've done on the field for you. For somebody else making that offer, it's like,

oh, they don't know me behind the scenes yet. They don't know what else I bring. So that's, I think, why I don't say the grass is greener, but why some guys get a little bit like, oh, fuck you. Like, this team doesn't know me as well as you do. You're trying to undercut me as opposed to these people. Hopefully they won't do it in the future. For the Browns, I see Deshaun Watson's taking everybody down to the Bahamas

for a team chemistry, a little building, camaraderie building, operation, getaway, probably work out a little bit. Baker Mayfield, is he also leading the workouts? No. No, Baker will not be present at the Bahamas. What? I thought it was everybody on the offense. Yeah.

I thought it was everybody on the offense. I think everybody but Baker Mayfield. I don't know if everyone. What? Oh, my God. No trip to the Bahamas? If I'm an offensive player with the Browns, I would probably find time to get down there because it seems like a lovely place. Baker is, you know, I hate to like, I'm not trying to make

excuses. Not, but I understand for Baker Mayfield standpoint, why he'd be like, you know what? I'm going to stay away. I'm just not going to, because he does, he feels a certain way about the organization. He believes that they told him one thing and did the other. I'm just not going to, because he feels a certain way about the organization. He believes that they told him one thing and did the other. I would say the opportunity to sign Deshaun, or trade for Deshaun Watson was something that even caught the Browns from like, it was even kind of out of nowhere for them because remember, he told them no a day before that. So like, I think at that point they probably told Baker, like, okay, you're good, and then they traded for Deshaun.

I get it. I understand why he wants to stay away. Most important thing for him is to figure out how he separates from the Browns, if he separates from the Browns, because I don't see that market going anywhere anytime soon. He's out guaranteed money, right? So he's in a very good spot. He just has to show up at the mandatory stuff.

So when's that come up? June, July? That is, it's either the first week of June or the second week of June. And then he's got to be at training camp. You know, training camp would be awkward. I'm sure he will show up. I'm sure it will either be some sort of agreed upon, you know what, you can sit out, or maybe like a hold in where he has migraines or hamstring injury or back injury or something. Like it's all awkward.

I think in the end they can come up with a situation that both sides agree with, but it is going to be weird until they get to that point. I guess NFL officials, Josina Anderson broke the news and then you confirmed it. NFL officials are scheduled to meet with Deshaun Watson this week in Texas. What does this mean? Is this the first time? Do they have a bunch of evidence that they're going to present to him and ask him about? How does this whole thing go in your eyes via Jocena Anderson?

So the timing is important. And yes, I confirm this, the league declined comment, but it is accurate. They're going to be in Texas this week to talk to Deshaun. The way the league handles their investigation is often, not all the time, but often, the subject is the last person to be spoken with. So when they talk to him, you figure they'll present whatever they've collected. And then at some point relatively soon, come up with some sort of penalty or not. So you would think, and traditionally the league, let's say in the summer days when everyone's ready to go away, sometimes those are the times they come out with penalties.

It just sort of happens that way, I would say. Friday afternoon? Friday 440? What? Is there extradition in the Bahamas? I mean, maybe on a Friday in July. Anyway. But this means that theoretically the investigation is coming to a close, and we might have some sort of resolution soon on,

is he going to be suspended, is he not, what this means. So this is a big deal because if he's suspended, let's say they find out he's suspended, will that be announced this week or probably not? They're going to take this intel in and then next week or a week after they'll get into the entire rollout of that because if he's going to be suspended 10 games, Baker better

get down in Bahamas. That's right. Because he's got a lot of football to be playing down there potentially. Can I guess? Sometimes I'll say things or report things and everyone will react and I'll be sort of like, huh? When I talked about Baker Mayfield not being traded and starting for the Browns, I did it on the draft broadcast and I think Daniel Jeremiah basically was like, you've lost your mind, something like that.

If there is a lengthy suspension, it actually makes sense for everyone to bury the thing and for him to go out and start and maybe do well and then get traded midseason. It actually benefits everyone if they can get past the feelings part of this. and for him to go out and start and maybe do well and then get traded midseason like it actually benefits everyone if they can get past the feelings part of this and they brought in jacoby brissett who has been a starter before and a great backup so what would the plan be for him who knows fascinating stuff maybe we'll get an answer sooner than later to all of it but the baker thing is going to be so fascinating to keep an eye on because it feels like he's completely hot yeah but there's going to be a team that's going to need so fascinating to keep an eye on because it feels like he's completely hot. Yeah.

But there's going to be a team that's going to need somebody at some point. How does he keep all of the guaranteed monies without uncomfortably? I mean, that's going to be a fine balance there. 18 and a half million. Is that what it is? Yeah. And so I guess a lot of fucking guaranteed money that you can't have, you know, taken out of your bank account if you're Baker Mayfield. Right.

I mean, that's to me for Baker, like, you know, being in football shape is important. Being ready is important. All that stuff. Making sure he gets all of his money. I always want everyone to get all their money. I hope he does. He will have to show up. And then we'll kind of be in the locker room like, what's going on?

How's everyone? It'll be weird. What if Baker just shows up and starts slinging it at us? Puts on a highlight reel. Hey, Cleveland Browns social media team, send this to all 31 other teams. I need to get out of here right now.

Go ahead, Ty. Rapshie, you reported Jair Alexander signing that massive extension. I think most Packers fans are pretty juiced about that. How long has that been in the works? Would they have been able to do that if they re-signed Dev was it kind of an either or? It's would have been, I think they could have done it. It would have taken a lot of work to figure it out and they would have had to push more money into the future. But you're right. Like trading,

they did not want to trade Devante. Don't get me wrong, but trading Devante Adams at least made it easier to do this deal. It has been in the works for, I think, four months now. And I think it's a really cool situation for both sides. This is a really feel-good deal. It's a really nice contract. Four years, $84 million. He gets

$31 million in year one. Hell yeah. Hey, this backs up the claims that they were going to pay Devante Adams what he was asking for, right? No, they offered him a bigger deal, I think, over the first two years than what the Raiders ended up offering him. Just he didn't want to be there. Get me out of here.

Old lady from the Happy Gilmore. That's right. That's crazy. So they were able to pay because like $31 million in the first year, I think everybody's first question was like, thought we weren't able to afford anybody. That's why Devontae went. But then we all forget, I think, that lost in that report

was that the Packers allegedly made a competing offer to keep him around and he chose to go elsewhere because then the narrative became, remember Aaron Rodgers took too much money because you reported instead of the Fugues contract, the actual contract for him, as opposed to how you do literally everybody else. Until that point, you have changed your coverage now. Congratulations. Thank you for doing that. But everybody was saying because Aaron took so much money, they couldn't afford any other players. They couldn't afford Devontae.

But they did make an offer to Devontae. Now they're paying Jair Alexander $31 million next year. So Packers still have some room, it sounds like. I mean, they got all that. This is really an argument. Not an argument, but a discussion of cap versus cash. They have cash. They have plenty of cash.

$200 million in real estate around Lambeau that just goes into some fund. Some war chest. And the stock, I think they made a lot of money in those stock things that they do. Shareholders. Open up for more shareholders. More shareholders, yep.

The reason I like... They do just collect like $100 million. Every single time. It's like an ATM. It's amazing. The reason I like the Jack Alexander deal is because he came back this year from a major shoulder injury, fought all the way back, and got to play in the playoffs, and basically worked for three months to play in one game.

And then this is a little bit of like a – it's not why he got the contract, but it's a reward for like balling out and at least getting to the playoffs. It's a lot of good faith, and I think it's really cool that the two sides got here. Look at them doing things the right way. Hell yeah. Murphy and Gooty doing things the right way. Hey, way to go. We appreciate that.

Thank you, boys. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Rapshi, what's going on with the Raiders? Is there going to be some punishments maybe with them, or what do you think is going to happen? This is stemming from an article that basically detailed how the Raiders were being run all the way up until last year or the year before that.

All the way up until 2019 or 2020, the Raiders were basically being run in a back room by people smoking cigs going, we'll pay those bills later. These people need money. Who cares? They didn't pay the electric bill when they moved to the Raiders.

The lights, when they moved to Las Vegas, the lights actually shut off in their building. There had to be people sitting there saying, this is the highest fucking level. This is the NFL right now. And then now allegedly mark davis is more hands-on he's brought more people in independent reviews of how things were being run in the past it sounds like they were running business terribly in the past i guess

there was allegations of sexual misconduct as well as financial problems what is what do you know about this this was via the new york times yeah It's insane to think that a team in the NFL, the biggest league on earth, would be operating like this, but it sounds like it is. Is this insanity or is this real? Or something in between. I think the NFL is looking into it, and I think hopefully for the Raiders who have, you know,

all that stuff you said is true. I mean, all the allegations, all the odds. And then on the football field, it feels like the opposite. Like, good GM, good head coach. They got a quarterback they paid. They traded for Devonta Adams. So much good on the field coming. And then it feels like in the offices it's the opposite. NFL is looking into it.

I know the Raiders have sort of done an internal review trying to figure out, like, what's what, how to run things properly. of this stems from how do we uh we've had this team for a long time man what the fuck are we supposed to do davis came out and said we're overpaying taxes who does that who overpays tax what a line by the way we're for instance some of the financial problems we're overpaying taxes it's like that's not why the irs is invested the irs never would be i think you paid us too much here i don't i don't know if that's taking place what they have no clue what they're doing over there i don't think i don't understand how that makes any sense how's that even happen i got a lot of questions i got a lot of questions and i don't and i don't understand i don't understand how they got here while running a multi-billion dollar organization

and building a stadium and moving. I mean, I don't like... That's a lot of shit to have to oversee. The construction, the contractors, the city, the guidelines, the restrictions, everything about it. And like, so Mark Davis gets a lot of, you know, some people, some people ridicule his haircut. Well, there was that one time he had a backpack on. Right.

And he was at the owners meetings and he had a full starter Raiders jacket on with a backpack on and he sat down on a high back chair and his backpack was up behind his head. Like it was a backdrop and he was giving interviews looking up and his hair was right there and the back backpack was high and his hands were in his pocket and that came one day after he said i'm going to dinner guys so i think everything that's said about him is maybe properly just but i don't know if any of us understand him as a human at all or a business person now it sounds like right and that's what i'm trying to like figure out all of this because

let's just assume that some of what you described is true i think that's probably like some levels of that are true how does an organization that did not keep the lights on literally didn't keep the lights on also engineer one of the most stunning moves we've seen in the... Oh, my God. All right, guys. Literally, I nailed it. Starter Raiders jacket, happy about that. Backpack up, hair... That's how etched in my

mind this moment is. That's an owner of the NFL. It's a fresh cut. Maybe a multiple billionaire, and he was the one that everybody was meaning to talk to, because this was after the John Gruden emails that we all assume was going to lead to a lot more and he comes out and says yeah i think we should let all emails with that backpack sitting i mean it was it's an interesting thing it's a fascinating thing because in all reports it sounds like he hasn't been involved with the team until like the last year or so but he's always been around at

games so he just shows up at games and then hands off and lets everybody else run it, and then he's finding out that they stunk at what they were doing? Or how's this? But they didn't on the field. They made the playoffs. And I think he did let Gruden kind of run the show and do his thing, which there was a lot that didn't go great, right? I mean, there were a lot of bad personnel decisions, some bad trades,

but he really let Gruden kind of do it, it didn't go great, right? I mean, there were a lot of bad personnel decisions, some bad trades, but he really let Gruden kind of do it, but then got really involved in the coaching search. Like, you know, obviously met, went to dinner with everyone and kind of engineered the whole coaching search and hired a guy in Josh McDaniels that a lot of people didn't think they could do. So that's what I'm trying to understand is the dichotomy between incredible business, getting all that free money from Las Vegas and a new stadium and a shiny new head coach and GM versus the guy who they didn't pay the lighting bill and they had to turn the lights off. Yeah, it seems like or maybe stuff that's a lot worse and not even joke, not even worth joking

about. So yes, the NFL is looking looking into it and i'm going to be fascinated by what everyone finds the highest level you know things happen throughout a day i think in every nfl building where some fuckery takes place and people go this is the highest level like hey this is the end couldn't even imagine walking in like what we had yeah oh did the firefighters cut the power we didn't pay no. Oh, no. Shit. I saw the – I thought it was a UPS note on the outside. That was the power note. They were saying, hey, they're going to turn it off. Because there's warnings to that.

Oh, yeah. Like numerous warnings to that. Yeah. They probably send emails. Last question here, Ian. We appreciate you joining us. Go ahead, Tony. Hey, Ian.

Antonio Brown just tweeted out that he wants to retire a Steeler. There's also rumors that maybe Emmanuel Sanders comes back for a reunion. They have a very young wide receiver in the room. Yeah. Here we go. Is there a chance they sign a veteran wide receiver? Probably not Antonio Brown. Maybe Emmanuel Sanders.

Anything like that going on? Yeah, I would be a little surprised if there was an Antonio Brown reunion with the Steelers. I would be a little surprised if there was an Antonio Brown reunion with the Steelers. Emmanuel Sanders, he is a really, really good broadcasting prospect. He's been on NFL Network at times. He is really good. And I think what he's trying to figure out now is should he retire and just be a broadcaster or maybe do one more year?

Steelers actually make a lot of sense. And he is a good dude. So like he would be a good in the locker room, veteran guy who probably would make not a big salary, but would be valuable. But I think that's what he's trying to figure out is like, does he go one more year? Does he just jump into our world?

Um, and just kind of roll from there. It's, and you know, these veterans don't necessarily need to go to like OTAs or whatever, so I imagine he's got some time, but it would definitely make sense if he ended up playing football and it was the Steelers. Last question for me, and I can't thank you enough for joining us.

Do you keep up with the sports media news? You just talked about Emmanuel Sanders maybe joining our world. I love it. Drew Brees says, hey, listen, I might be working at NBC. I might be pickleballing. I might be pickleballing. I might be business and philanthropy-ing. I might be playing football games. I might be training for the Champions Golf Tour.

I might be coaching my kids. Or I might do all of it. I have no idea. How'd this work out? Because there was alleged rumors of him getting traded to Fox a couple weeks ago. He wants to call games, I think, is what's being reported. And NBC doesn't have the Rolodex of games to call. Do you know anything about this or do you

stay out of this business? I kind of love the media speculation world. It's fun. So my read on this thing, he's not playing again. Dennis Allen kind of came out and said it, but I think he was knowing what would get all of our attention and get the retweets.

He mentioned that. Oh, Drew. He wouldn't make it by himself. Pretty savvy. Pretty savvy. He's good. He was good in the studio, too. He hated it.

He fucking hated it, I guess. He's not playing again. Pickleball, I don't know if he – I mean, Pickleball would actually make some sense. He'll have some free time. I imagine he's very good at it. It didn't sound like it worked out at NBC. I mean, my guess is he's probably not thrilled that it leaked. I mean, I could see him calling games again, but you're right.

NBC just doesn't have the amount of games. So I'm sure we'll see him again, just not on the field. Well, great answer. We appreciate that. Ladies and gentlemen, the man who has all the inside information, he's off the golf course and back in his basement. We appreciate the hell out of you. Senior NFL insider for the league

and the network, Ian Rapoport. Thank you, Ian. He's a man who has multiple banners hanging in the rafters of his absurdly large house. He has a college football national championship banner that he hangs, a Super national championship banner that he hangs, a Super Bowl championship banner that he hangs, a COVID Cup

banner that he hangs, a Ryder Cup banner that he hangs. The one banner he won't be able to hang is that he ever beat me in golf, though. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. What's up, dude? You look good. New haircut. Stop by Sports Clips this morning.

How'd you know? About 10, 15. Yeah, I had to make an appointment online. It was a long wait, and I got in there and slid through the line. It was great. Did you get the MVP treatment in there? Did you brrrr on the back? I never get a shampoo or anything.

I just get a quick cut and get out of there. Hey, give me that GI drill sergeant to the top. You know what we're looking for. This is the quick cut. Get out of there. Hey, give me that GI drill sergeant to the top. You know what we're looking for. This is the hot cut. I need the hair on top to flow, and everything on the side needs to be skin. Can you make this happen? Hell yeah, we're sports clips. That's what we call a fade.

That's literally no problem. You have these sports clips. Haircut. You should be the face of that fucking place, AJ. Okay, yeah, hopefully. Maybe someday, Pat. We all can dream. But I don't want you to get away from your golf situation. I know you

post a highlight film of yourself with the Bugle Boys Jr. on the background on Twitter. Of your golf. Connor wasn't there. Tony wasn't there. I never said I could beat you in golf. We're playing. I commented on your Instagram like, you're a great golfer, man. Like, I have nothing to take away from you. I'm not a great golfer. Listen, it's just coming together.

You told everybody how great you are. No, listen, I've said years, years. I got years to work on this thing. I only placed a wager with you that I'll make top 50 in a champion store for $20 million a year. That's going to happen. Now, the next one is Tahoe are scoring. I've never been there.

That's a good putt. Yeah, that's a great putt. I was watching that putt fall there. I felt real good about that putt. Bottom of the bucket. Felt real good. It's because we've been working on putting green out here. Justin Thomas doesn't like the net, but my stroke has become repeatable, I think.

I'm just trying to make solid contact. It was a soft track, too, so you had to hit ball first if you really wanted to do anything. It was a good test. $400 we paid to play there. $400 we paid to play there. Wait, per person or total? Total, total, total. Okay.

Some places, you know those nice places have that, like for one person, like Greensfield, 525. Jeez. Of course. We wouldn't have gone. Of course. We'd go to Steve's course. That's right.

Is this one of the places where you're a member? No. Tony got invited to this place. Went, okay, now we need $400 at the end as we're drenched and on our way out. I mean, it was an incredible racket almost, but of course it was gorgeous. It was great to get out there with the boys. Not the Bugle Boys, the boys. Yeah.

Great to get out there. Hit the ball a little bit. We battled against a tornado, fucking storm. I mean, it was wild out there playing our thing. You and I are betting, what, $25,000 on the final score at Tahoe, both to the person and $25,000 to charity, I think. Yes. Okay.

All right. I'm in. It's fine. Perfect. Okay. If I lose $25,000 to you and then just a quick 18% equity in the company. Deal? No way.

What are you talking about? So I'm beating you and you're getting equity? No, no. When I beat you, I get the equity. No, no. I don't care about the cash. I don't want the cash. Just get the equity.

Okay, so we'll give you $25,000 worth of equity if you end up beating me. Okay, deal. All right, congratulations. There you go. I'm feeling pretty good about my game. worth of equity if you end up beating me. Okay, deal. All right, congratulations. There you go. There you go. I'm feeling pretty good about my game. Now, if I do not finish, that bet is off, obviously,

but I'm feeling – this is the first time – If you do not finish, what do you mean? If you take yourself out of it on Sunday when you're down by 40 points? No, no, no. Get injured or something. I was sore. I was sore coming out of this golf round, I will say. Legs were a little bit sore. Back was a little bit tight.

It was locking up while I was in there. Then I ate everything in sight for the next two. I mean, I got to get into better shape and more flexible. But the golf game feels fantastic. Congrats to Mr. Lee. I don't want to say the wrong name. The guy who won the Byron Nelson. K.H. Lee.

K.H. Lee, yes. K.H. Lee, who won the Byron Nelson, 26 under. He won. Spieth was in there. Justin Thomas was in yes. K.H. Lee, you won the Byron Nelson 26 under. Yes. He won. Spieth was in there. Justin Thomas was in there. The boys played great. In preparation for the major that's coming this weekend, that is?

PGA Championship. Here we go. Here we go, boys. Need Justin Thomas to win that thing, AJ. Where Scotty Scheffler is his favorite course. Oh, yeah. Scotty Scheffler, the guy that you asked Justin Thomas about without saying his name. Yes, you did. He mentioned Scotty. I wasn't even thinking of Scotty Sheffield, the guy that you asked Justin Thomas about without saying his name. Yes, you did.

He mentioned Scotty. I wasn't even thinking of Scotty. What'd you do this weekend? Did you play golf at all or the first time you played B at Tahoe? I did not play golf this weekend. I haven't been outside yet to do that. But yeah, soccer tournaments. I actually went indoor skydiving in between games on Saturday with my daughter. It was sweet. In Ohio?

Yeah, in Cincy. They have a place there, the Big Tube or whatever. It was the people that worked there, you watch them. They do a little routine after you're done. These people are like this girl that was our instructor did a full Spider-Man routine, sticking to the walls, sealing up, like it was crazy, man. Could you not handle it? I did it.

How'd you do it? Did you do pretty good? Did you get any video of this? We have a few still shots. The instructor's with you. You do it one time. Then next time, she takes you up, and you're spinning around a little more. Knee dust.

Did you get sick? Car sick out there? No. No, I thought it was great. I loved it, man. My daughter did, too. I'll go back. Now my other kids obviously want to go.

It's in Cincinnati? Yep. I think that's the only one anywhere near us. Congrats to Cincinnati. Yeah. I think that's the only one anywhere near us. Congrats to Cincinnati. Yeah. That's huge. Yeah. That's just what, an exhaust fan, right, that's shooting straight up?

Yeah, it's crazy powerful. Yeah, like I had no idea. I'd seen videos and pictures of people do it, but I didn't know in person how crazy. Like, these people are talented. Have you ever skydived in real life? No, never have. Face full back air, or is it a rather comfortable experience? Not comfortable or comfortable? like these people are talented have you ever skydived in real life no never have face full

back air or is it a rather comfortable experience not comfortable or comfortable uh face yeah pretty much like that i'd say but you know what they tell you real skydiving they tell you hey just relax breathe you can breathe you just have to do it don't freak yourself out goggles yeah goggles it was it was funny though like when they take you out of the tube. This guy's head. Jeez. You need two goggles. How did they get the goggles to? Oh, goggles can fit easy. But when she did bring, she was going, okay, look at everybody's head.

Get bringing them helmets. She's like, oh, I've got one for the big guy. I was like, yep. Yeah, we had a horse one time do this. You control yourself though with your hands and arms, right? You can flip and do all that. Not your first time. No, you can't.

But you can, yeah, if you could flip, they would not let you try to flip your first time. Really? Yeah, it's serious. You will catapult right off that glass and break your neck probably if you try. Jesus. I thought there was no chance of death. I thought this was like, fuck around. That's what I thought. Yeah, but you'd jesus i thought there was no chance of death i thought this was like a go out there and fuck around that's what i thought yeah if they but

you got you'd have to get in there a few more times they got to be there like adjusting you and everything so yeah it's pretty involved hey happy you survived yeah that's awesome survived i enjoyed it a lot okay well i'm happy you had a great weekend we went golfing there was a bunch of game sevens the nba bunch of blowouts aj you didn't miss anything bunch of blowouts in the game sevens from luca luca and the boys and everything i've seen jb on twitter too describing give him some commentary man what a weird situation for the suns number one what everyone did assume they were so much better than dallas but yes not just dallas everybody's showing the suns we're going to go on a run this was the year now golden state's

getting hot obviously and they'll continue to do so but the phoenix suns i feel like have been for the last couple years like the super basketball people talk to the the casual basketball people like me as if i'm an idiot when they're talking about the suns i'm like whoa sons look at the sun good for phoenix love that city they got a team huh pretty good pretty good pretty good team they're really yeah it's probably favorites in the west they what booker and chris paul have been doing and aiden all the boys over there the team the money the the building the culture the entire thing is yeah it's a powerful thing they've been there for a couple years they're mainstay now or whatever i'm like okay well great to see the sons are back and everybody we talked to all the sons are going to go on a run they're going to go on a run then that one guy hit that

ball out of luca's hands and Luka gave him a little stare down, and that Slovenian savage fucking said, everybody wants to talk shit when they're up. It must be nice. Outscored the Suns in the first half, or tied the Suns in the first half of yesterday's game, game seven. Then just won banana land throughout the entire series. There's these stats from Reddit on what Luka accomplished.

Over the course of a seven-game series, Luka Doncic outscored fourth-place MVP voter Devin Booker, 218-164. Devin Booker's a scorer. Oh, yeah. Ball player. Out-rebounded the seven-foot-tall DeAndre Ayton, 69-57. DeAndre Ayton's a rebounder. And out-assisted Chris Pointgod, Paul.

Chris Paul, by the way, facilitator. He's an assister, 49-40. Oh, and he also had more steals than defensive player of the year run up. This guy plays defense, Mikel Bridges. Yeah. I mean, Luka just took over the entire series. Now, he has the ball in his hands at all times, but this guy right now, we're just seeing the beginning of it.

His tattoo goes to about right here. His tattoo goes to about right here. That thing's going to be a full sleeve. Oh, yeah. And by the time that's a full sleeve, everybody on earth is going to be like, oh, this is the best basketball player we got. He's unbelievable to watch. He seems to be electrifying.

He talks shit, but he moves at a pace that just looks so casual, has the ability to do whatever, and it feels like the Mavs are only going to continue to build around him, which I think you have to do if you talk to anybody. That was a fucking fun series to watch, and now Chris Paul's getting buried by Patrick Beverly on get up and first take this morning. Chris Paul, is he healthy enough to come back and do another season

with the Suns? It's been his thing. What a wild series of events there. And it's all because Luka was disrespected. I mean, I tell you what, I haven't paid enough attention to Luka as I have. Like this playoffs, I guess, when I finally started, I haven't paid enough attention to Luka as I have like this playoffs, I guess, when I finally started watching a little bit more of him. And he in like a world of isolation basketball is this guy the greatest ever at this isolation

game where it doesn't matter. He's so weird and crafty and Eurostep and stutter and smooth that he just always finds a way to spin to the hoop, whatever, and then hit these step back 80 footers like it's nothing. It's just I don't. What do you do? You put four dudes on him for real and just say hey everyone else beat us yeah but then they're all waiting for him to make his teammates are all waiting for him to make his move you put four on him he'll find him because he has the vision to do it james harden had this run right oh yeah james harden had this run where he was able to do this he changed the game completely getting fouled with

his step backs and everything like that never could win though right that was the thing can't win this way can't win this. Can't win this way. Can't win this way. Can't win this way whenever one person is this ball dominant. Now they're winning, knocking off the Suns. And they'll probably be, if they were to get to the Celtics, they'd beat the fuck out of the Celtics. Well, it looks like it's going to be a mad Celtics,

but with Harden too, like it was almost in the big games is when people always criticized him and Luka in the big games. Loves it. Yeah, he balls out and there was a stat for the. Hey, Luka is an absolute slovenian dog full on yeah what's the stat uh well devin booker was the one that knocked the ball out of his hands in game five and it was like since that moment he had like 68 70 points he shot like 60 from the field he's absurd yeah 68 points 21 rebounds 12 assists eight three-pointers made and they went two and oh look it down to three everybody acting tough when they up what a leader guy yeah what a dog this guy is and it's so fun to watch him like

you so how are you like i mean his brain you can see his brain always like studying figuring out instincts and i know it was it um was it j JJ or whoever it was was calling one of his games and said when Luka hit this crazy spinning step-back three thing that Luka told him, hey, the first time I ever tried that was in a game like a year ago or something? Yeah, got a lot of confidence. I think it was JJ. Yeah, like, hey, I didn't practice any of this.

These crazy made-up moves almost that you would do with your buddies outside at recess recess and they're doing it in nba games and they're like oh that one worked i might as well try that again you know what it's comparable to for me as a viewer the first time i seen tyson fury box i was like how did i not know this fucking guy was around he was just like picking he was faster he was more entertaining he seemed to be a fucking killer a savage and he was just picking apart i believe it was uh wilder yeah yeah the first time i seen him i had no idea by this point he's already the world He seemed to be a fucking killer, a savage, and he was just picking apart. I believe it was Wilder. Yeah.

It was the first time I'd seen him. I had no idea. By this point, he's already the world champion. He's one of the greatest of all time. I had no idea he existed until that moment. I bet against him. It was an American against a Brit. Give me the American.

I have to do it. This guy calls himself the Alabama Hammer. Give me the fucking American Hammer. That's who I want. That's our guy. He's going to knock this fucking bloke out. No problem. Then what?

35 seconds into the fight, I saw the way this dude was moving and talking shit and singing and they were talking about the thing. I'm like, oh, this guy is awesome. What is, this is an alien. This is a one of one. How do I, I feel the same way watching Luka. I'm like, how did I not know this fucking guy existed until I'm seeing him just dominate

these playoffs? Just like that other, the big joker. Yeah. Jokic, just like Jokic. Because all these European guys that get drafted ahead of guys that I know in this lottery, I get so pissed off. I'm like, oh, here's a guy that's going to come play in the NBA five years from now. Why are people wasting their pick to do this? I just seen the old cousin at whatever, Kentucky, wherever, played great.

And they're drafting an old buddy from overseas. Now it's becoming like, no, no, these guys are guys. Like Jokic, back-to-back MVP. Luka's starting to take over the goddamn playoffs. I think that's great for the growth of the NBA, but for me it's great because I'm just getting introduced to these dudes that I, no offense, refuse to waste any emotional investment on in the past. I was missing out completely.

He is must-watch basketball whenever he's on the court, especially whenever he's starting to talk shit. He's fantastic. Yeah, like all the screen grabs of Luka after he makes massive shots of him just mean mugging everybody in. I believe he did one to Lil Wayne because Lil Wayne was at the game. Yeah, Luka a hoe. Yeah, and he called him a hoe.

And I believe there was a lot of theories on the internet, like as soon as Luka Doncic saw Lil Wayne was at the game. Yeah, Luka a hoe. Yeah, and he called him a hoe. And I believe there was a lot of theories on the internet. Like, as soon as Luka Doncic saw Lil Wayne in the building, he knew, okay, I've got to do this. I'm going to score the same amount of points as this team in the first fucking half. That guy's unbelievable. He's, what, 23 years old, I believe? Yeah.

How long is his deal? Three more years? Two more years? He signed, like, a five-year 207 deal in August. Oh, Booker's got another three years. Yeah. Or two years. Because remember, Booker Luca was becoming a thing there for a bit.

Now Booker will be able to get back. He'll be in the tabloids all offseason, right? Because he's with... Jenner. Apparently they're taking a break, though. Oh, no. Because fucking Luca? It might be because of Luca.

Oh, no! Oh, shit. What if she's sitting courtside against the Warriors supporting Luka? What if she goes, hey, Luka, you get that thing a full sleeve and look like one of those cool World Cup soccer players? Maybe you take a ride on the Kardashian cruise. You know what I mean, pal? Maybe you'll get the express lane right to the most popular athlete in your sport.

You're welcome. She broke up with him or he broke up with her because of Focus on Basketball? It was just a headline that I saw. I didn't read the article, but the insinuation was that it was her decision, not his. She's like one of the top models on Earth. She might have said, I ain't got time for this basketball player. I got to focus on Hulu. We've got a new series, and I got to focus on being the top model on planet Earth.

Sorry about it while you're losing, Luke. Also getting beat by 40 points at home in a game seven. All the NBA games are blowouts, though. Okay? All the NBA games. How? Just because, what, the Suns had one of those weird, really bad nights, and that was the opposite?

Not just them. Celtics blew out old buddies. Oh, yeah, smoked them. The Heat and the Warriors. Giannis wasn't able to do a whole lot, was he? He missed a bunch of shots. I mean, they hemmed him up. Chris Middleton's out as well, which Sean said was going to happen.

I mean, every game seven, though, was basically a blowout. Hockey on the flip side, great weekend. Did you see any of these games? I got to see a lot. Part of them and then a lot of the recaps. I thought the Pens was over. I thought they won. I was like, all right, it's over.

Well, we don't talk about it. We were talking about that in the first hour. Obviously, the Penguins may be in a new era. That one old buddy kicked from his skate and then out of the air was awesome. I can't believe you're allowed to do that. Yeah, Gensel fucking can do whatever he wants. He got the puck on a bad damn string. That was an awesome good job by Gensel.

Yeah, Gensel's unbelievable. Stud. Follow-up. We don't even talk about it because that might be the end of an era. There's new ownership. There's old guys on the team. They can't get past the first round for the last four years. There's probably going to be change coming, which is heartbreaking

because it's having a moment of silence for all the good times that that fucking crew brought me. Moment passed. Coach Sullen, what the fuck's going on, dude? Come on, Coach. Can't have it, Sully. Anyways, with that being said, Texas hockey's out. Yeah.

They stink, too, Texas hockey. The fucking otter standing on his head last night. Goalie stopped 62 shots. 62 shots. For who? Texas, too. Texas Hawks. Fucking Otter standing on his head last night. Goalie stopped 62 shots. 62 shots. They lose. Texas, Dallas. Great American hope. 23-year-old Otter.

Absolute legend. Why are we calling fucking penalties in overtime in the NHL playoffs? Well, we'll ask Tim Peel. We'll ask Tim Peel why. Because that's what happened to the Pens. That's what happened to Dallas, it appears. Did he just go full Canadian voice? Is that because you're

pumped for the fucking Battle of Manitoba in this round of the playoffs? The Battle of Alberta? Nah, I couldn't give two shits about the Battle of Alberta. Hockey's over.

What are we even talking about? Hockey's done. Pens? Shit to bed. Bruins? Shit to bed. Dallas Stars,

Texas Hockey? Shit to bed. We all died. Red Wings stunk for the last 10 years.ins, shit the bed. Dallas Stars, Texas Hockey, shit the bed. We all died. Red Wings stunk for the last 10 years. Blackhawks stink. Golden Knights are a done franchise. They fired their coach there, actually. Hockey's done.

How did all three of us lose in a fucking game seven? Two in overtime. Bad news. Stink. Bad news. I got a lot of people in Carolina texting me Saying hey you joined our bandwagon It's like I love you guys I was hoping to go in there wearing my Crosby jersey

Telling you all to suck it actually Well now you can go down and fucking ring the rates Iron dollar A great man did it We can do it too Bill Kyer That guy That's why we've lost in the first round the last four years

because Bill Kier's down there giving motivational speeches. You didn't want to face the Caniacs when – We did. When Duhas comes on in that arena. We did. I don't know. 13 of yours, you would have been fine. What?

The Rangers are going to buckle 4-0. 4-0 Caniacs over to – That team stunk. Terrible. T.J. Lang calls me, hey, it's all right. Good season. A lot of good memories. Any of you guys lost to a pretty okay team?

Like you should feel good about that. All right. Thanks, TJ Lang. Thanks. Hey, you should – if Carolina asks you to come ring this siren deal, you should go glue yourself to it and rip your shirt off and have like a Sid jersey on you and be there the whole game. I am about sick of what they're doing with the vegan milk at that arena.

Yeah. It shouldn't cost more. I'm glad somebody took a stand. Yeah, you're right. That's right. You want this siren to go the entire game? I'll do that right now. I'll do it.

Gorilla glue. Palm. Right to that thing. And I'm fidgety. So this is happening. This is happening all game until you guys fix the vegan milk in here. Don't you think if I glued my hand to the table, you could rip my hand right off easy? You think I could do that?

Yeah. I could be Gorilla Glue, I think. But wouldn't your grip also be fighting me, though, too, right? All right, then. Yeah, never mind. I got to. I mean, yeah, if someone's holding on to a pole, you got to do what you got to do to get off of it if you need them off of there, right? Not just pull on them.

Well, that's what I'm saying. When these people are gluing their hands to the wood, why don't they just take a shovel? Yeah. Why don't they just bust right through the thing? Oh, yeah. Taking a little bit of skin off with it, but that's the cost of doing business. A little bit of steam.

Well, that's what they want, right? Yeah. They want to force me out of here. How do you? A little bit of steam from the frother. The hand comes right off. Oh, yeah. Or a bunch of acetone.

You're good. Okay. You shouldn't pour acetone. Just keep that around. Butter. Probably help. Let's talk about some NFL stuff. There's a spray called Goo Gone.

Goo Be Gone. Goo Be Gone, I think, right? Oh, that's a better one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The original was Goo Gone. Now it's Goo Be Gone. I think Goo Be Gone may be the original. What, Goo?

Yeah, and then this is like the, what was that one, the Starbucks entity that they started? It was like Starbucks Next Door. Oh, Dumb Starbucks. Dumb Starbucks, where it was a coffee store that was right across the street. It was a really nice thing Starbucks has, like a Starbucks, some kind of. No, this was somebody that didn't like Starbucks. Like Latte Larry's. Yeah, they use parody law, right?

Yes. It was like dumb Starbucks or something. It was a Spite store. It was a Spite store. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. Exactly like Guatelir. All right, let's talk about some football.

Jair Alexander gets a four-year, $84 million extension with $31 million coming in the first year. $30 million signing bonus, so his contract next year is worth $1 million if you start doing some math. $30 million signing benefit, so his contract next year is worth $1 million if you start doing some math. The Packers and cornerback Jair Alexander have agreed on principle on a four-year deal, Ian Rappaport's reporting. And we just talked to Rappaport about this because the overwhelming consensus of the conversation about the Green Bay Packers was they spent so much money on Aaron Rodgers, that diva, took too much money, they couldn't pay anybody.

Devontae had to go elsewhere. Well, we brought this back up and got it confirmed again the Packers did offer Devontae Adams I think either more money or the same exact money to stay in Green Bay and he said get me the fuck out of here dude he chose to leave Aaron got buried for that completely his contract

now they're giving out 84 million dollar contracts on the defensive side of the ball feels like it's in good faith I think Guti and Murphy hey doing good things here, right? You've got to be pumped about this if you're a Green Bay Packers fan, right, A.J. Hawk? How could you not be? I mean, they're secondary. You go around, they're secondary. Bringing

Adrian Amos in, I think, was a great acquisition. Rasul Douglas re-signs after they were able to revamp that dude's career, and it all works hand-in-hand. Your front seven and your back end. Your back end secondary players are much much better if you guys can get a four-man rush or you can get any kind of rush really but now i feel like they have studs all in the front line the front seven and their whole secondary if you go down the list i guess d butts talks about all the

time what we need but five six starters at the db position i think he wants six or seven i don't know if it's plural or singular d but but theButt does talk about needing to have a bunch of starters in the back end because whenever injuries are going to happen and then whenever you get into the playoffs, I mean, teams are going to be four wide, five wide, and if they find one person or two people, they can set up schemes now to put everybody on an island and kind of fucking kill you.

I mean, that is just modern NFL nowadays. You need talent in the back end to keep Jair around. And obviously it's good football-wise, it feels like. But as a Packers fan, them paying Aaron, them keeping Jair around and paying him a lot of money, is this not normal? Am I acting as if this is abnormal and it's not or is this maybe hey look at the green bay packers kind of coming along and investing in their team and wanting to continue to build as opposed to force people out so they can get paid elsewhere like maybe it's

happened in the past no i think that's 100 accurate i think it was i mean it was a couple weeks ago whenever that denzel ward deal got done and i saw the number i was like oh shit this probably means the packers are going to lose jair alexander like i just don't you know with what he's making jair alexander hasn't gotten paid yet he's like a true number one guy and i just you see that number it's like okay well this is something that the packers aren't going to do so i think everyone is pretty surprised seeing that this morning but obviously incredibly jacked up he's insane and then they lower his cap hit so they can still kind of make some moves maybe at receiver in the interim like it doesn't completely cripple him but it's not something that you know any Packers fan would say they saw coming I don't think I believe we have a

graphic or have one of the highest paid corners in the league and obviously Jair Alexander's number one Denzel Ward's number two at 23 million or whatever uh and then number three is Jalen Ramsey who's making 2020 million a year, who's an absolute game changer. I don't think any Rams fans are saying that they paid too much for Jalen. But Jair Alexander, $21 million a year. Denzel Ward, $20.1 million. Sorry, I was wrong with $23 million.

Jalen Ramsey, $20 million a year. Marlon Humphrey with $19.5 million. And then Lattimore down in New Orleans with $19.4 million. It pays to be great in the back end i think this is only going to continue to go up as the nfl continues to change into a pass happy offense if you got a dude you gotta pay a dude and these guys right here i mean jaylen remember he was at jacksonville remember that oh yeah yeah you remember that was the thing people forget he was was even there, I feel like. Well, people forget, too. Like, he was not happy with what was going on. And we all, I think we all, not me, but the media world was like, Jalen's not a good teammate.

Listen to Al. Look at Al. They're trying to coach him or whatever. And Jalen's like, get me the fuck out of here. This is amateur hour. Get me out of here. Go to L.A. Give me all my fucking money and we'll win.

And they'll make me a leader. And they'll play me at every single position. What'd you say, Zito? Was he on Hard Knocks when the media was asking us questions and we saw it behind the scenes? Oh, that was in L.A.

That was in L.A., right? It was on Hard Knocks in L.A. Past it. Got to see him come in and do his question on the Zoom. But it was whenever he was on the sidelines at Jacksonville

and coaches would be talking to him and he'd be fighting back and they're like, oh, this guy. Yeah, he's a good player, but will he you know will he fit any culture think uh Pat you think herbs could have helped help that fit in Jacksonville well that's what I'm saying like we I'm happy we're at a point now where there's enough platforms I can say like well maybe those coaches is fucked up you know and maybe with a guy like Jalen you say yeah we're gonna give you a little bit bigger leash because you're fucking Jalen Ramsey yeah you should have a little bit

more say in some things because you're fucking Jalen Ramsey I mean you know like those types of things now obviously has Aaron Donald helping him out in the front end and he's on the back end but I remember that being covered as if Jalen was the problem and just like with Odell Beckham Jr right Odell Beckham Jr is the problem Odell Beckham Jr. is the problem. He ends up in a place that is very suitable for the type of person he is, the personality he has, and boom, he has immediate success. Would have been a Super Bowl fucking MVP if he doesn't get hurt, Odell Beckham Jr. I mean, it's crazy what the world we're in now

versus the world we're in not too long ago. It feels like it is changing vastly. Well, in Jacksonville especially, then that report comes out about the complaints that they had. It was like 25% of the entire league was from Jacksonville. And I think, wasn't it Clive Campbell who came on and basically was like, yeah, I thought I was going to be in Jacksonville forever. And then they traded him to Baltimore.

Yes. Out of nowhere he thought it was going to be his home. Yeah, Calais, he's, by the way, just got another deal I think. I think so. With Baltimore I think he's just got another deal. That's a lot. He's been playing a long time just got another deal, I think. I think so. With Baltimore, I think he's just got another deal. That's a lot. He's been playing a long time in the trenches. Very tall man.

Very big. Huge. Blocked a lot of kicks back in the day. He could stop doing that. Now you're an old man. Get your ass on the sideline. But congrats on all the success, Calais. It feels like the era, though, of, you know, players, if you're good,

like be who you can afford to be is a real thing now, as opposed to in some places where it used to be like, no, we've got to make this guy look like a bad guy publicly so that we can't, you know, we don't have to pay him. It'll be tough to trade him. His career is dead. Now it's like, yeah, maybe that's not the right fit. And Sean McVay is a guy that has become very much a – come on.

Yeah. Sean McVay spoke to Rich Eisen about potentially getting into the media world because we all knew it would be a natural fit. When Monday Night Football was looking for somebody, it was alleged that Sean McVay was approached because he's young, he's successful, he knows the game inside and out, he's attractive, and he speaks well. We've heard him on the co-host in the podcast Flying Coach with Peter Schrager.

Loves ball. Absolutely loves ball. Has a resume to do with how much money media is paying. Everybody assumed McVay would go. This was his answer to Rich Eisen on Friday, I believe, when chatting about the entire media industry and his future. Let's put it this way. I love coaching so much, Rich.

I think that it was a fun narrative, but if you look at the entirety of what I had said, the question was asked if I was going to be a lifer in coaching. And then I elaborated on, you know, I don't know that I see myself doing this until I'm, you know, 70 or so, because I feel like I'm 36 going on 80 some days. I sure love it, but, you know, how long I'll do it, I don't know. I mean, I couldn't be more excited about this season, working with our players and coaches.

But you said down the line, is that something that you're interested in? I think there's no question about it, but I couldn't be happier coaching ball right now without a doubt. That's via Rich Eisen and the Rich Eisen Show available on Peacock. I think the reason why the narrative was able to build so much is because we saw Tony Romo make 17 million we saw Troy Aikman make 17 and a half million dollars Tom Brady allegedly via some reports and then rebuffed and then we'll see what the actual uh number is making 37 and a half million dollars

to be a pillar or no a steward of the game and a commentator and we learned that McVay was making like six million bucks or something the coach that LA Rams team so was all of the media conversation with how big the number was just leverage to utilize against Kroenke to get another deal to be uh remain the Rams head coach possibly but I do believe a lot of us think to ourselves I can't wait for that guy to get in fucking tv though he's gonna be amazing on the microphone, I think, AJ. No, I think he's going to be awesome, but I actually believe him here with what he is saying. I think Sean McVay, yeah, he's only 35. I don't think there's any way he can sit there and be like, you know, I'm cool.

I've accomplished everything I need to. I got a ring here. Like, I don't really need the daily grind, you know. I'm just going to go out there, call a game a week or do whatever, do some studio work, which he's going to be awesome at eventually. I just feel like right now he's not there. I feel like he's a coach, coach's coach. For him, I don't know how long that is, but I wouldn't be shocked if you looked up and he's 55 still coaching. Yes. Oh, my God.

My wife said that my son turned 40. 40? Where have the years gone? Actual quote, Bruce Aarons, first time he retired from the Cardinals. My son Jake turned 40? Wow. Not 10, not 15, which is a long time. Not 18, which is an adult, you know, and that's a full preschool, elementary school, high school, going into college.

Not 18. Not 25. Holy fuck. Graduate doctor, maybe. Not 30, full family. How you doing? Not 25. Holy fuck. Graduate doctor. Maybe. Not 30. Full family. How you doing? Not 30.

The guy turned 40. And Bruce said, holy fuck. I missed four decades. And this dude's like, but that's how football people are. That's literally how coaches are. It is just we are either preparing for football season or we're in football season. And when we're not in football season, they're wishing they're in football football season so they're acting like they're in football season by watching more film being more dialed in they'll take like a month off maybe three weeks off in between otas and training camp

where they go fish and i assume just get absolutely blacked out murdered hammered drunk and they try to do as much family time as possible but they're right back in the game there's certainly going to be days though though, where Sean McVay thinks to himself, I probably could have got $25 million calling the games, and here I am dealing with Aaron Donald's out, Jalen Ramsey's out, this team's out, and we're in the NFC West. Everybody seems to be fucking good at football.

There's going to be moments where those conversations happen, but you're 100% right. He feels like he's a coach through and through. That motherfucker's going to be around forever. Personally, don't you think, though, it makes it easier for him to leave and go to the booth now that he has a ring? Like, if he was chasing that ring for years and years and years,

that would have kept him in. But now that he's got a ring, I mean, he could leave at any time. He could leave at any time, but I think that's what AJ and I are saying. Hey, Pat, you know what he should do, though? These dudes are psychopaths, dude. This year, if he gets pissed, if Sean McVay's really pissed after games, post-game presser you know they start out slow start for the season

whatever what if he just he just looked at the people and he's like hey man i'm gonna be making more than every single one of you in this room like if he really wanted to be a dick oh nice question how about this you ask better questions maybe make the same amount of money i'll make as your job yeah how about that about that? Great question next time. Hey, do you ever watch the game? No. It's very apparent that you know nothing about the game, which is why I'll make 10x what you make.

You hear me? I'll retire today. I'll fuck the whole game tomorrow. I'll be doing your job tomorrow. Imagine that. McVay, that has to be a nice security blanket, though, that some guys have. Tom Brady's obviously got it, earned it.

Sean McVigh has it currently they're talking about emmanuel sanders uh ian rappaport just kind of leaked that one slowly in the comments he's like emmanuel sanders has a very promising media career waiting for him so is he going to go back and play or is he going to media it's like okay congrats emmanuel sanders here we go there's a lot of nfl network right that's what ian rappaport was saying yeah i assume he's very good yeah i assume he's very good I think I've seen a couple of his things, not in its entirety. Allegedly, Greg Olson is currently in the middle of negotiations to be Fox's number one person for at least the next year

before Tom Brady comes in. Allegedly, that's happening alongside Kevin Burkhart. Not 100% sure if that's true or not because people are playing the where will Drew Brees go game. Like, will Drew Brees become the number one person at Fox if he was to go over to Fox to call games? Is Fox recruiting him over there? Do we know?

There was a rumor he was going to get traded to Fox. You remember that? That was before the Tom Brady announcement. So what happened, though? So I assume he had a multi-year deal with NBC. I read where they said they mutually parted ways. What does that mean? What happened?

Well, let me read a tweet that Drew Brees said. Here's his exact quote. Sorry for the speculation from the media, is how his tweets are. Despite speculation from media about my future this fall, I'm currently undecided about it.

I may work for NBC, Peacock, Universal, who knows? I might play football again. I may focus on business and philanthropy. I may train for a pickleball tour, senior golf tour. I'm fucking way ahead of you. Coach my kids or all of the above.

I'll let you guys know. So Drew Brees has no idea what he wants to do. There was following reports via the New York Post, I believe Andrew Marchand, that said that Drew Brees liked calling games and NBC's Rolodex of games is not that thick, including, or Peter King reported this, including the fact that Chris Collinsworth signed an extension recently. We didn't know that. Way to go, Chris, with Sunday Night Football. So him and Tirico, I guess, to be there for the next five years, I'd assume what that extension is.

Not 100% sure. Other than Notre Dame football, they don't have enough games, basically. So he's thinking about maybe going elsewhere to call a game he had a tweet about uh signing Jarvis and Landry uh Jarvis Landry and Tyron Matthew wanting to maybe wish him to play football again or maybe come back and play football again but all the friends around him say that ain't true so I think Drew Brees has no idea what he wants to do I will say this as a spectator I thought Drew was great in the studio role even though he fucking hated it he did not like it, I guess, apparently, allegedly. That would make sense, though, to me that he, if he does, like leave NBC because of that.

It's true. Like the only game NBC has is what? The Collinsworth Sunday night game, how Michaels used to have. Yeah, Sunday night football or Notre Dame. That's it. So, yeah, Drew wants more options. And I guess if they, whether, I don't know if he didn't want that Sunday night gig or they already signed Collinsworth to the extension, whatever it is,

if Drew wants to do games, yeah, you've got to go somewhere else. But, yeah, wherever he goes, he'll be successful. But what if he goes over to Fox and they're like, hey, we'll give you $750,000 a year. And he's like, well, Tom, he's got 37 and a half. Allegedly. And they say, well, that has not been confirmed, and we do not want to confirm it.

But also, we've never seen you on enough games on our broadcast. Well, you didn't see Tom either. Tom's great of all time. Tom Brady. I'm pretty good too, I guess. I have all the records. Remember, they stopped a game in the middle of it when I threw a completion. Is he pissed at NBC?

Does he think NBC leaked this info? Yes. That's why he tweeted that. I don't know. That's what everybody is assuming, though. That Drew isn't happy about the way the news was released about him not being there. Although he left in there, I may go back to NBC.

So maybe NBC left it kind of wide open. Like, hey, if you would like to come back, there's not a lot of games. If his focus is calling games, NBC would not be the place. It would be Fox or it would be CBS. But who knows how much they'll pay him. The initial inkling or rumor mill, and I forget who I was reading, maybe Peter King, maybe Marshawn, I forget who I was reading.

Greg Olson appears to be the number one that is coming. I don't want to call him lame duck number one because that would be fucked up because Greg Olson is very good at what he does. But Greg Olson, allegedly the number one analyst for Fox this upcoming season, they have the Super Bowl next year. So if you're Greg Olson and you get a chance to call an entire season as number one crew and the Super Bowl, you would think that that would be great marketing for whichever job you want next

when Tom Brady comes in at $37.5 million to not only call the games but also be a steward of the game or whatever. I just think if you can get in there, you should get in there. Tirico, though, has been waiting to get in the NFL for a long time now. Remember, he left ESPN to go to NBC, and everybody was like, Sunday Night Football. And then the immediate thought was, well, Michael's is not slowing down at all.

Now Al is at Amazon. Tirico gets a shot. Collinsworth signs for another five years. Drew Brees might have not seen that coming, and now he wants to kind of figure it out for himself. Who knows? Well, and if it was a mutual part between him and NBC, you've got to assume.

Yeah, nothing's mutual. Yeah, that and they're probably like, oh, you think you are warranting $15 million or whatever it is, or at least a little below Tony but not too far below, especially after the 37-and-a-half leak. It's like they might say go to CBS and see what they'll give you. And then if he doesn't get the offer or doesn't get the chance to call games, does he just go back to the studio?

Maybe Drew just fucking hated it. Yeah. But if he goes to CBS, is he okay being the number two crew? Because Tony's the number one crew. Well, and that's what I was alluding to about Fox. Allegedly Greg's going to be number one. So is he number two now? That's where Greg Olsen was.

And that's an interesting jump for Drew Brees to go from you know pro football night in America like 16 football night in America has like 16 million viewers I think every single week biggest show yeah biggest show in a huge studio show biggest studio show in sports I think oh yeah every single week dialed in huge numbers. And maybe he just hated it, but I don't know. Unless Drew has the utmost faith in what he can become as a football in-game commentator, would you take that to go down to number two to potentially go elsewhere?

Or three. Maybe if you just get it. Or three. If you get a chance to do it, I guess you just got to take it. If you're, you know, if the universe is telling you. If he really wants to do games. Like, if he really wants to do games, then I yeah you'd have to go prove it that's probably why he's he doesn't know where he's going at yet either because like the options are kind of weird

on in where he's at maybe maybe drew just fucking hates it all maybe drew doesn't know what the hell he wants maybe i can understand like doing a studio show like that like it's not my specialty for sure like those quick studio shows like that, it's not my thing. I mean, those kind of set up studio shows where you have 40 seconds and you've got to touch every subject of the league because there would be two or three

where you can go to this guy and be like, I don't care about this one. Or I just don't have an opinion. Sometimes I don't have an opinion sometimes i don't have an opinion on things i think that's okay well that's because you live your bet life yeah that's right yeah you do live your bet life don't you think this is some sort of indication too of like what all these places view him as a broadcaster because if there was talks about him getting traded and they don't really have a solidified number one booth yet if he was worth the shit they would

trade for him immediately it's like it's drew breeze he's going to be a hall of famer he's a quarterback like i i just and they're just handing those gigs over to people that stink on the microphone for sure that's probably what drew's thinking too like man they got a lot of bums on these microphones out here i think you maybe take one step back to kind of prove yourself somewhere and then you go maybe you'll have an incentive based contract somewhere i don't know but i don't think there's any way that he would be okay with calling the number two or number three game. Like, Notre Dame, it's not the NFL, but there's a shitload of people that are watching Notre Dame football.

Like, if you're calling, you know, the third-best NFL game every week, like, how long until he's like, no, I want the third-best on that network? Yeah, exactly. Right. I thought he was much better in Stooge than calling a game. I thought he was very good in Stooge, though. How many games did he do? All of them.

Oh, Notre Dames. I think he did one NFL game. Oh, yeah, the New Orleans Saints game. Playoff game. Which he was honored at halftime, right? Yeah, and that was just a weird – probably not – they didn't really set him up for success, I don't think. That one, I may be reading headlines.

I read something when they were talking about this, and they acted like that game was bumpy or weird. It was not a great game. They were retiring his fucking jersey at halftime. It was a playoff game for a city that he is literally the guy. That would be difficult to call. I don't want to make too many excuses for Drew Brees, but I found him to be

good in the studio. I found him very good, but if you're not happy, you're not happy. We've had incredible conversations in the past with Gene Steratore, Mike Pereira, and now, a 20-plus year vet of the NHL, a man who has been

there, done that, when it comes to Lord Stanley's cup chase on the ice, a guy who's going to break down all the bullshit that the Rangers did to the Pittsburgh Penguins this series. Ladies and gentlemen, Tim Peel. What's going on, Tim? Thanks, Pat. Thanks for having me on, boys. Hey, Tim, it's an honor to have you, man.

And everything I just said there is real. We very much understand the importance and the value of officiating, good and bad, how much it affects the game. In hockey, it feels like the relationship between the officials and the players is vastly different than any other sport. Are you guys always talking to the players, and is that by design, and is that kind of in the culture of the game, Tim? Yeah, no, that's a great point. I think the reason that that happens, Pat, is that hockey is such a physical, emotional sport. And the role of an official is to calm everything down, get people back in a good place. When things are heating up, you know, my job is to go over and talk to, you know, Mike Sullivan or Gerard Gallant and say, hey, you got to bring the temperature down on the team here because things are starting to spiral out of control. So we do talk a lot, and the guys that are really good refs in the league, the veterans like back in the day, Don Koharski and Bill McCreary

and Kerry Frazier, they were good referees, but they were also really good communicators, and that's what I tried to be in my career. And, yeah, it's pretty intense out there, but it's fun at the same point. Do you ever look at other referees and other professional sports and all of you and all of your referee buddies in hockey and say, like, you guys aren't doing anything? Like, look at us.

We're basically Olympic skaters out here dodging pucks and high sticks and breaking up fights of some of the toughest guys on the planet. Like, it's a different thing what you guys do. Do you guys have to, like, continually work? Like, do you practice skating still? Do you still have to work on things all the planet. It's a different thing what you guys do. Do you guys have to continually work? Do you practice skating still? Do you still have to work on things all the time because it's so physical? Yeah, you know what, AJ? That's a great point.

Ronnie Culpa, he's an MLB umpire. I live in St. Louis. I grew up in Canada, but I've been in St. Louis for 21 years, and he's from here. And I'd always joke with him. I'm like, are you kidding me? You guys, you've all got a drum on on you've got a big drum on yourself you know you're you're uh out of shape and you guys are standing there calling balls or strikes or whatever and I said we're

skating out there with world-class athletes you know I'm 55 and at the end of my career I'm skating out there with Connor McDavid and Sidney Crosby and Alex Obechkin and these guys these making me, you know, they're skating past me like I'm one of the turnstiles at the New York subway. You know, our guys have to be in shape and they are. Our referees are phenomenal athletes. They work out all year just like the players do. And it's not like the old days where you just showed up at training camp. It's a 12 month a year job now. Were you a hockey player growing up and how did you uh transfer into the officiating role yeah i was uh

i was pat i was a shitty player and that's why i became a referee so you know i grew up i grew up in a small town in canada and like everybody wanted to play in the nhl and then but in the summertime you know i i came from nothing i grew up in a trailer park and we lived by this country club and trust me we were on the different side of the the highway than than uh the country club growing up in this trailer park and uh in the summertime i caddy and then the wintertime rolled around i missed having to spend the money and mom and dad were like hey you're 13 why don't you start wrestling so kind of got into my blood and then once i realized i wasn't going to make the nhl as a player i kind of ref refocused and just still was doing it for fun. And they scout the NHL, a lot of people don't understand, they scout for referees like they scout for players.

So they would send guys out to the junior ranks in Canada. And by the way, a 20-plus year career, it seems like it all worked out. Congrats from Trailer Park to St. Louis for 20 years. There you go. You want to be one of the voices on NHL officiating? You know, Pat, you missed the 2014 Olympics, but that's no big deal. Okay, so let's talk about obviously an incredible resume. You've called 1,362 regular season games, if the internet's not lying,

90 playoff games, been around, know the game, you've been reffing ever since you were a kid. The flow of the game in hockey is real, right? So in our sport, they always talk about, oh, that was a makeup call. That was a makeup call. That's bullshit. In hockey, it feels like the culture of hockey is it's understood. Like, like hey if some team gets something wrong against them there's probably going to be a makeup call on the other side am i misreading that situation or is that very real as somebody that's always been a hockey fan but not in a hockey culture no it's uh i'm not going to say that it's real because i don't know where the term makeup call ever when it ever started but let me tell tell you this. For example, say we've got the Pittsburgh Penguins and the Rangers, and we've got five penalties called against Pittsburgh,

or five penalties called against the Rangers. We want to make sure that we do not miss a call against the other team where they haven't had a power play yet. And so our guys don't go and make up a call that isn't a real call because the 20 guys that are working the playoffs right now, they just cut it down to the second round of 12 guys. So eight guys go home after the first round. Now we're down to 12.

So in that first round, guys have to really show their bosses like, hey, I'm on top of my game. I'm calling good NHL penalties. And so they can't go out and make up a call but what does happen and it's very real is your antennas go up and you go I better not miss a call here I cannot miss a call against the other team they haven't had a power play yet and so yes it goes on but not to the point where you're making up a call a third down penalty obviously huge because it extends a drive.

It's almost a turnover. A pass interference is like a 30-, 40-yard penalty sometimes. Obviously huge, changes the game. But a penalty in hockey is an actual – I mean, that's a real advantage. Like, hey, you have a one-man advantage for that amount of time. That is where the Stanley Cup champions score and where the people who aren't Stanley Cup champions don't score. I mean, that is literally what happens.

And I don't think make-up means, like, just make one up. I think make-up is like, hey, we owe you one because of what has happened in the past or the calls that we have had there. Whenever you start thinking about, you know, because how we learned about you was you saying you had to fucking get one against Nashville earlier. You had to fucking get one against Nashville earlier. Had to fucking get one against Nashville earlier. Is that because you're trying

to set the tone of the game? Was something happening in the past? And how regular is that you just happened to be the person that was on the mic and then inevitably had to eat the bullet for everybody? Yeah, no. I'm surprised you brought that up. I didn't think it made sense. Well, I had to do it.

I had to get there in the proper fashion. I didn't want you to think I was getting there immediately, but it does call into what we were about to talk about with the Rangers fucking over the Penguins yesterday. Yeah, no. Honestly, what happened that game. So I was supposed to retire four weeks later here in St. Louis, and that happened on March 23rd.

My last game was April 24th here in St. Louis. And ironically, before the game, I went into the trainer's room of the National Predators, Pete Rogers, he's a long time equipment manager and as you guys know, these equipment managers,

they don't get paid a lot of money like the players do and they're the ones that really take care of us. Oh yeah. I'm sure you guys had your favorites too and so I took pete in a nice bottle of camas wine he's a trainer for nashville and thank him for you know his friendship over the years and so i didn't leave that dressing room going you know i want to fuck uh uh nashville

especially with four especially with four weeks to go in my career i'm like yeah that's this is a good idea let's blow it all up with four weeks to go. And so when I made the call, and as I'm going to the penalty box, I see the replay on the jumbotron. I'm like, Jesus. Like I thought the national player tripped him. And I'm working with this real veteran official that I respected a lot, Kelly Sutherland.

And when I came over, because the penalty was 10 feet from him and I'm out at the blue line and I call it and it was my it was my dispensing mechanism kicking in because I was embarrassed that I made this call because I prided myself in being a good ref and making good calls and and I simply said to him yeah it wasn't much but I wanted to get a fucking penalty and it just came I we called two penalties the entire game it wasn't like i i wanted to get nashville so it came out wrong and as you guys know the world we're living in now it's uh gone you know it's uh you know i don't want to get into politics but you can probably tell where i stand we won't dive into that but that thing went as soon as we heard it.

And I think because as fans of other sports, we think that refs think that way in those sports. And then as we learn more about the hockey culture in the hockey community, it feels like refs do have a little bit of a flow of game almost, like an obligation to the game for that type of thing. And you explained it there. If one team has five and another team has zero like we're obviously going to try to not miss any calls for the team that's potentially getting penalized more heavy but does flow of the game calculate into that

because i heard a lot of like super hockey people basically backing you saying what he said there wasn't that big of a deal almost is what people were saying yeah no and i had a tremendous amount of support uh support from the hockey community from current players ex-players coaches gms and so on and you know what at the end of the day i'm a big believer in in shit happens for a reason and uh and it's how you come out on the other end and at the end of the day it really wasn't a big deal but uh but yeah no as far as the flow of the game, it really wasn't a big deal. But, yeah, no, as far as the flow of the game, Pat, like, you know, I watched game six or game seven of the Rangers-Penguins game there on the weekend, and I think they went six minutes without a whistle at one point.

They're just going up and down. They're playing hockey, and as a referee, you're like, okay, these guys are playing. We don't have any stoppages. We don't have any scrums. Let them play. I don't need to get involved here as long as there's nothing egregious that you know sydney's in on a breakaway and gets

tripped well obviously you got to call that and but when when the game's going along like that it's like let them play and just keep it going and that's that's what's great about our sport is that's just continuous you know yeah guy can grab a guy by the head, rip his helmet off, send him off the ice. It's a facto power play. They score a goal. Fuck, okay. All right, great.

You know what's crazy about that, and I don't know whether Sullivan was trying to cover for his player because Mike Sullivan, what he's done with that team this year with all the injuries and so on, first of all, he's a phenomenal coach even before the season started. But I think he might have been trying to cover for Pettersson there because I don't think the Pittsburgh player and I don't think most players know the rules.

And I don't expect them to know the rules, but there's a few that they should know. Sullivan said in the post-game press conference that Pettersson had to skate in the post-game press conference that Pedersen had to skate off the ice. Well, that isn't the rule. No, Pedersen could have leaned down and picked his helmet up and put

it back on the head, and he doesn't even need to do the chin strap up. Okay? All he had to do was... Put the cap on! Just put the bucket on, pal. Yeah, Pat, honest to God, all he had to do was lean down and put his helmet back on, and boom, he's allowed to continue.

What do you know, Tim? Fuck off. That just throws salt in the wound, doesn't it? Yeah, Tim. It does. Don't you expect, though, Tim, as referees, do you expect the coaches and players to know all the rules, though? There are certain ones they should know. They should know because they brought it in a few years ago, and I love Sid.

Like, Sid is one of my favorite all-time players, and I have a couple good stories about him. But, you know, he said that that was a stupid rule. I don't know. Is it rule. I don't know. Is it stupid? I don't know. But the reason that they instituted it a few years ago was, you know, for example, Sid loses his helmet. He's standing in front of the net, and the Rangers are just throwing, you know, bombs from the point. We don't want a player to get hit in the head without a helmet on and maybe get seriously injured or have a concussion or maybe something worse that we don't even want to talk about.

So the reason that we, you know, we just started a few years ago that players have to wear their helmets and it's not a bad rule. It's safety for the players. But unfortunately, in this case, I don't think he understood that he didn't have to come off the ice. Man, that's a that's a heartbreaker. I think he understood that he didn't have to come off the ice. Man, that's a heartbreaker. I know you're a big Sid fan, Pat, and I heard an interview with him a few months ago. He was with the Canadian program Sportsnet,

and they asked him, they said, Sid, what is your biggest threat? And I thought it was going to be maybe a Stanley Cup playoffs or something, And he goes, or they said, what do you think, what would you like to change? And he goes, I wish I had treated the officials differently when I came in the league. And I was like, when the guy told me that, I was surprised, but I wasn't surprised because of the type of person he is. When he came in the NHL, he had come from the Quebec Major League, and he ran that league.

He was Sidney Crosby. He ran the officials. He ran everything. And so when he came to the NHL, he thought he was going to kind of run us and, you know, intimidate us, and he quickly got put in a spot because guys have been in the league for 10 15 20 years but he was young and immature just like i was young and immature when i came in the league and i was cocky and arrogant and and but he recognized that years later he's like i wish i

had treated the officials differently but this is the type of guy is it was four five six years ago i worked my thousandth game and when a player works plays a thousand games or a referee does a thousand games it's considered a milestone and I was never one uh never a big autograph seeker and and uh or collector and but I remember later on that year Sid came up to me he's like hey Timmy he goes I heard you you you reached a thousand games thanks a lot and I go thanks Sid I go I'm not a big collector, but I go, I really, you know, I love you. I'd love to have a jersey of yours in my basement. And so, you know, I figured he'd forget or whatever. Anyway, that summer, July, August, boom, doorbell rings.

Go open the package, Pat. And there's Sid. Oh, wow. And on's Sid. Oh, wow. And on it. Can't win the first round. Congratulations on 1,000 games played and many more. But that's the type of guy he is because he got his equipment manager to say, hey, go find Tim Peel's address.

I want to send him a jersey. And he's the best. But I've got a funny story from 2013, and you guys cut me off if I'm rambling. No, no, feed me Sidney Crosby stories. Am I allowed to swear in this show?

You already did three times. You got us fucking canceled three times already. You're a champion of the curse words there, Tim. Champion. So 2013, we're working in Long Island at Nassau County Coliseum, and there's a Marriott right across from the parking lot there in Long Island. And so it's an afternoon game. The Islander fans, they're crazy, the New York fans.

And they're tailgating all afternoon, so they're all tuned up and drunk at the game. We go into overtime, and I forget the Islander player, but he hooks it, and so my arm goes up, and I give Pittsburgh power play, and sure enough, Brooks Orpik scores in overtime from the point.

And I bet it's Brooks! And Pittsburgh goes on, and they eliminated the Islanders. Oh, guys, what a good old day. So now we need a police escort to get us from the rink across the parking lot to our hotel. So there's like eight police with us, and we're walking through, and people are throwing beer at us.

It's just the comments are vile so this one woman and she's got her kids standing there and she goes she all she's saying is how does sydney's blank taste how does blank taste and i'm listening to this and i'm like you're first of all you're a woman and just that's how much jesus that's how passionate those fans were and I'm telling you I loved I loved Sydney he's I was rooting you know what it's good for hockey like the Rangers getting back in but I was rooting for Pittsburgh because I don't know how many more years they're gonna be able to hold this band together funny story.

You're back at square one here, you know? Did you respond? Did you respond to this nice lady? Yeah, who was teaching her kids proper shit talk to a ref? Yeah, no, I just ignored her and cut my head down. Sidney, I'm not getting into it. I'm not getting into it. Why was he, is he your favorite player?

Is he a lot of refs' favorite players? Is it because of how he plays all of hockey instead of just one? And if you were to judge these teams that are left, is there anybody you think that the refs favor more than others as just humans and everything like that? No. No, to answer the first part, he's one of my favorites because of – I'm looking at him the other day before he got hurt, and he's 36 years old,

and every shift he's going out there, he's still dominating, which is unbelievable to be able to do at his age. Like, he's skating the same way that he did five years ago, which I don't get, but he's got legs on him like tree trunks. It's unbelievable how – Stallion. Yeah. He's a legs on him like tree trunks. It's unbelievable how – Stallion. Yeah. He's a stallion. But, no, as far as the teams and, you know,

referees wanting one team owner or another, it couldn't be further from the truth. I saw somebody on social media when they were playing Toronto and Tampa, and somebody said, oh, the Russ are going to favor Toronto again. And someone said, well, how's that worked out for Toronto? They haven't got out of the first round in 18 years. win and someone said well how's that worked out for toronto they haven't got out of the first round in 18 years so you know we do not care we all we care about is survival making sure we are not the story of the game and thank goodness you know the all the game sevens that there weren't

any controversy in regards to the officiating and uh we weren't part of the story but the refs don't care who wins that's the last it's never been true and it's certainly not true today well we don't you can speak for yourself other sports there's some noted shooting too we got an over the hit we got over to still to hit this guy better start shooting fucking better free throws whenever this guy gets the ball that has happened in the past and i guess every official that's like the that's probably the biggest slight that you can hear as a ref i'd assume is that you are not a fair ref or not an affair official 22 years did you ever get into it with anybody about your the way things have gone or is it pretty much smooth sailing no you know you get

into it with players on the ice because it's an emotional game but you know i remember brian boyle when he played for tampa you know brian's playing for pittsburgh now and he was just giving it to me from the bench one night and just and and then he came out the next shift and he goes timmy goes i'm sorry i said don't you ever apologize for being emotional i said that's what makes our game so good i said i said now if you cross the line then i said i'll have to give you a you know a penalty or whatever but i said don't ever don't ever apologize for being emotional because we cannot that's the one thing that we can't take out of any sport is the emotion and there's a fine line between emotion and abuse but you can't take it out man they were trying to do that in the nfl this year it's a very emotional

sport they're trying to get rid of people's celebration. It's like, come on, let them. Like, I don't understand that. And you talked about, you know, officials changing a game. You know, we're watching the Super Bowl this year, and they had let them play for 59 and a half minutes, and all of a sudden we get that call with, what, a minute and a half left in the game?

And I'm like, you know what? You guys have not been a part of the game. No one's talking about you, but now they're all talking about you. And as a referee, you never want that to be the case. I love that you're judging other refs, too. I enjoy that. Go ahead, Nick. Tim, video replay has been a huge part of the NHL for a long time,

mostly to determine goals and what's not a goal. Did the puck cross the line, et cetera? Now it seems like it's being expanded a little bit more with goaltender interference. Obviously, you look at the play last night with Gensel. Was his stick above the crossbar? Was the puck above the crossbar? How do you feel about video replay?

And as a ref, when they went to the war room in Toronto and they overturned a decision maybe you made on the ice, did that bother you at all? Or was it like, okay, good, we got it right? Early in my career, it's a great question because early in my career when they when they first started instituting uh uh replays for goal interference and and they overturned your call you felt like you were embarrassed like you were embarrassed not to the fans or the players but you were embarrassed to your bosses in toronto and new because you're like, you know what, I should have got that call done in real time.

But over the last few years, and I think social, well, I know social media is a big reason for this, is that we have to get the call right. Because what happens is if we don't, eight seconds later, it's viral on social media. So it's imperative for the league. We can't have goals scored if it's offside. We can't have pucks kicked in. We can't have goal interference. You know, that Gensel play, when it happened, I looked at my son and I said, they're going to count this goal because there wasn't enough evidence to overturn it.

Like, we're talking inches how close that was. Now, Rangers fans, 50% of the people are going to say it was high stick. The other 50% are going to say, no, it's a good goal. Who cares about Rangers? I think just basically because of the world we're living in right now, it's imperative that we have video replays so that we can get it right so that we're not talking about it two weeks later how somebody got screwed because of an offside goal or outside the nassau coliseum you're not

hearing you know too much yeah yeah go ahead aja tim was there ever any guys out there that you would like beg for them not to fight because you would catch some friendly fire every time they would get in a fight and you're trying to break them up or trying to you know control everybody else around them no you. You know what? I did a radio show this morning with Cam Jansen, and Cam used to play for the New Jersey Devils. He was a tough guy. And I loved it when we had the fights.

And I know society's changed, and that's part of the reason that we don't have as much fighting anymore. But I was the ref, AJ, instead of the linesman. The linesmen are the ones that have to get in there and break the break up the fight so I was the pretty boy standing in the background with my pad of paper writing down who's all getting penalties so I never had to get in the way but you know I miss those days a little bit but I also you know what society's changed and but nobody seems to get up and go to the bathroom when there's a good hockey fight everybody's

standing on their feet watching it. I love the fact that in hockey, though, the fight is like an actual strategy. Hey, you know what? The boys are a little down, a little flat. You don't get anybody going? Well, one of their friends just goes and gets in a brawl right now. Hey, I need you to get out there and just go fight their biggest guy so the boys will wake up maybe. They might not, by the way.

Might not work. Might end up losing 10-0 here. but we're down three we need something like that was just a part of strategy since i feel like the beginning of hockey almost i love it 100 and even even for tough guys that would get called up from the american hockey league years ago they would line up beside bob probert ty domey you know the real tough guys and man, you've got to give me a shot here. I just got called up. The only way I'm going to stay in the NHL is if I fight you tonight. And Domi and Probert and these guys would say, okay, kid, here's your shot,

or Kelly Case or Tony Twist, and they'd go, okay, kid, here's your shot. Take a shot at the title. And that's kind of the code. That's how much respect. These guys are, like, trying to kill each other, but that's how much respect they have for each other they're like okay nothing happened but i'll fight you anyway so you can maybe stay up and earn the nhl paycheck i guess i think rupper told the story of chara you know chara is an absolute legend six foot nine whatever he is he he would go up to rupper and he says i need this fight

like hey our team needs me to fight and rupper's like get the fuck away and then like the next period like rupper please will you please allow me to fight you or whatever and then they do it and the whole fucking garden goes crazy the team goes insane rupper eats a couple rights tries to get a couple back and it's over it's like there's no other sport that has that. None. No, it's unbelievable. I love Ruppert. I think he's good friends with you guys.

I saw one of his fights the other day when he had to fight Chara, and I was like, man, you did really good on that fight. Usually Chara just destroys everybody because of his length and that, but Ruppert did really well in those fights against Chara. He tough Ruppert was tough man but you know what he was loved by his teammates because they knew if if any of them needed to be protected he was the guy and that's the great thing about hockey all the enforcers like like for example here in St. Louis Brett Hall and Kelly Chase are best friends well Well, one scored 750 goals and the other might have had seven goals in his entire career. And the all-stars aren't

hanging out with each other. It's the tough guy that protected this goal scorer for his entire career. And that's why they're best friends. It's unbelievable. Don't you think? Okay, I'm gonna get into it. Sidney Crosby, greatest player of all time. Imagine if he had a protector that gave him three feet of ice every time he got the puck like it used to be back in the day. Yeah, you know what? It's a really good point because, you know, you look at what happened with him and Trouba.

Is that going to happen if Ryan Reeves is there or Marty McSorley or any of the tough guys that used to play for Pittsburgh? That isn't a problem, and it's a very valid point, or any of the tough guys that used to play for Pittsburgh. That is one. That isn't a problem, and it's a very valid point, is that, you know, McDavid gets run over and Matthews and so on. And, you know, maybe it's we can't lose it all. We can't lose it all. We can't lose that part because look at the Rangers. They felt like they got pushed around last year,

and they probably did by Tom Wilson and the Caps, and they went out and got Ryan Reeves. And I guarantee you Panarin and Zbigniew Jad and those guys, they grew about six inches in the dressing room because they're like, nobody is going to fuck with us this year with Ryan Reeves. And they didn't. They didn't get pushed around at all. So it's an element that

we can't completely lose for a margain yeah and it's like quarterback with an offensive line it's the same exact thing like hey you need one I think the one needs the other and the one understands that but everything's changing everything's evolving as is officiating we can't thank you enough for joining us Tim boys thanks a lot for having me on. I really appreciate it. Hey, stick to us for your pile, ladies and gentlemen. Tim Peel. And three. Today's show is presented by Cash App. Cash App is the best finance app on planet Earth. It is the easiest way to send money to your buddies, and you can even buy pieces of Bitcoin or stocks with as little as $1.

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Yeah, it was a little weird, wasn't it? Yeah, I don't know. There might have been a song. I'm not 100% sure. You didn't deserve that, though, because the way you were reading It was a little weird, wasn't it? Yeah, I don't know. There might have been a song. I'm not 100% sure. You didn't deserve that, though, because the way you were reading that was great. Yeah, it's all right. Cash App, also, incredible company. Yeah, the best.

Very thankful for Cash App. They make these giveaways much easier. AJ, you're fucked in the golf realm. Yeah. That's tough. Looking very well. Yeah, it is. You want to buy out?

10 mil right now, cash. No, I'm okay with it. You need to get that money. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. What do you got tonight?

Practice? Yeah, some practices and stuff. It's been raining today. It was like 85 and humid all weekend. We got bacon. We got that last night Yeah we had that rain yesterday while we were golfing You heard the siren kick us off the fucking course

Oh yeah 400 bucks Wait but how many golfers did you have I don't think it was NATO weather It wasn't Four of us it was 100 bucks a person I guess out there Not bad

That was a good afternoon Yeah Wait but you didn't pay before $100 a person, I guess, out there. Not bad. That was a good afternoon. For nine holes? Yeah. $100. I told you. Wait, but you didn't pay before. No, they didn't tell us that. It was kind of implied.

It's kind of implied. Yeah, we paid afterwards. So that was where the – That's weird. Yeah, we know. That's where the curveball kind of came in. Four people play? Or was it like Goom in the cart? Did they charge him?

For how good we played. Goom was just in the cart. And also, nobody was going to golf because it was torrential downpour. So nobody would have went other than us. And nobody else was out there, really. It was a good hustle. Good hustle. Yeah, you got your swings in, too.

Yeah, I got some hacks. Good hacks. Are you saying you're not going back? No. No chance. Okay. Guy was a nice guy. I liked him.

Yeah, he was. He managed it, though. It was way, way. It was a 40-minute drive. Oh, jeez. Yes. Exactly. I mean, it was a nice guy Yeah he was Yeah He mentioned it though It was way's way It was a 40 minute drive Oh jeez Yes Exactly I mean it was a full

It was a good racket by the guy It was a good racket by the guy How did you become aware Of the You know This course Well I've known of the course For some time

We were re Introduced the course By tweet from Cuz Who says Hey this course W wants to be part of your your road to tahoe you know and then foxy chats with person directly and it's like hey i got you guys all set up then nick gets there before any of us that guy was not in the right position to make this call he's only worked there for two weeks, I guess, not even involved in the golf side of things, but still was able to hook it up.

We got out there. We got carts, got food, got some beers all set up. It's just us out there because there's like, you know, tornado warnings basically, orange dot over the thing. So we're having a good time golfing away. It was a beautiful course. It is a beautiful course. Will not say it was back whenever I golfed on it before.

They renovated, I guess, in the middle of some renovations. Beautiful course. Then we get drenched, sirened off the course, and then boom, $400 tab kind of comes in at the end. It was like, oh, shit. Okay, I should have known this was coming, I guess, but it was a good time. What if you played 18? What do you think the tab would have been? Good question. A thousand? Imagine if we think the tab would have been? Good question.

Imagine if we're going to charge $1,000 to go. That would have been awesome. That would have been amazing. Goombs just rode along. I don't think he even took one putt. Back to your question. Why not? Goombs just doesn't like golf or what?

Just big morale guy, AJ. I mean, just trying to get the boys fired up. Everybody needs a hype man. Bud Lights and music. Can't beat it. It's not a bad day, Goop. Those Bud Lights, the one that I almost didn't finish. Yeah.

I've been nine, ten bucks down. Yeah, no kidding. Foxy had to sidewinder one. Yeah, Foxy punctured a hole right in the middle of his Bud Light, so he had to shotgun it from the middle of the can. Yes. So he had to do this number. Had to bring it from both ends.

It exploded in my car. It's quite a scene. It was a good time out there, though. It was. Wouldn't pay $400 to do the same thing again. Exactly. Have a whole course to yourself, $400, let's go. No, we just have to plan out the storms.

Right. Yes. And then try to get to a golf course when the storms are there. Then we'll know nobody will be there. Pretty simple. Pretty simple. And the guy in the pro shop, too, I are we gonna be okay out there's a guy out of all the bad stuff's behind us you guys be fine and then we get on to the t-box at nine

like a truck horn they're hitting this thing from the pro bar or from the uh pro shop or whatever like well i'm having a pretty good fucking round right now. Should have just turned it off. So I'm going to finish this. What's that? The alarms. I've done that before. Not supposed to.

Me? No, no, the people working the clubhouse. No, they wanted us out of there. Yeah, they wanted us to get the fuck out of here. We wanted to go home. They wanted our money. They wanted us out of there. It was a...

So they were basically pressing it then. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, do not let these guys make the turn. It's on them. Yeah, yeah. If we get struck. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, do not let these guys make the turn. It's on them. Yeah, yeah. If we get struck by lightning,

yeah, yeah, that's definitely what it was. Or it was, let them know no more holes. You should have waited around, though. You should have said, we're going to wait out once the storm passes

and we've had 45 minutes of no lightning, I'm going back on the course. I'm not sure, man. I don't really understand the golf world as much. That's why you have quite a bit. You've got to get used to it. That's what I'm saying. You're going to be living it. You have quite an

advantage going into Tahoe because that's all the golf people. Because it's what? It's all the golf people. That's your world. You micro those shrimp. That's my world. Yeah. I'll tell you what. It's a part of a lot of people's world. It's amazing how much of a part golf is of a lot of people's world.

If you get good at golf, I mean, you're immediately in conversations with incredibly powerful people all around the globe. You know? Because people, that's what all the, it's basically what all the suits do, right? All the suits love golf. Yeah. I mean, I guess, yeah, it depends. Because do you want to be, sometimes, though, in those circles,

you don't want to be too good. So do you play not as good? If you know you're playing with this dude, who's you're trying to, you know, do business with, but the guy's shooting one Oh five. And you shoot par. Do you add, maybe I'll shoot 85 today. No, just real quick. We don't have that in our DNA.

You hear me? You, you, anybody in here? I don't have to worry about trying to play bad. Yeah. It's not our, if somebody wants us to play bad while they're playing bad, like we don't want to do business with said bad golfer. Okay, fucking get it together.

Make better contact. Sorry about it. We're actually going to go to the next hole while you're still hacking away. Let's not. I guess reading the room is a good idea, but also, fuck you. Just play fast. Whatever you do, play fast. We played pretty quick.

I feel like we did. That's also a thought of mine. I don't want to slow the lads down either. Yeah, but you could drop a ball. You could be terrible. You could be horrible and still play fast, though. I concur. My short game is very good.

It's the driver that worries me. Really? Yeah, I swing too fast. I can't slow down. So you swing too fast, but your short game is very good? Well, I'd slow down the short game. Once I get the big stick in my hand, I'll too fast. I can't slow down. So you swing too fast, but your short game's very good? Well, I'd slow down the short game. Once I get the big stick in my hand, I'll let it eat. No discipline.

You have electricity that can come through this fucking thing. Sunday looks good weather-wise, lads, if we want to get back out there. Okay. Aren't we looking for bad? We're looking for bad weather right now so we can get the course to ourselves. Everybody would be scared to get on there. Well, Saturday looks dog shit. Okay.

There you go. So that's what we're looking for. But we don't want to be in the rain again, do we? Well, that's what we're saying, though. I think we would take the rain with an empty golf course. Yeah. As opposed to no rain, packed golf course. Did you ask the big guy about that secret course?

No, I should. Jim Irsay's been pretty active over the weekend. Does he have his own course? He knows somebody that has their own course around here. Interesting. We should try to get on that one. Yeah, Tony Stewart. Tony Stewart's got a Cabela's for sale one hour south of Indianapolis.

$30 million if you want it. He probably has a golf course down there. I would imagine. Nah, his golf courses are the lakes. You know what I mean? There's just some land, I guess, that goes in between the fishing lakes. True. How some people view golf courses. You know what I mean? There's just some land, I guess, that goes in between the fishing lakes. It's true. How some people view golf courses.

You know what I mean? But, yeah, we got to get on that private course. I got to get good out there. I think my game can get good is what I'm saying. I'm sure. I think your game is good now. You could probably get really, really good. I'm imagining between now and Tahoe.

So how good are these guys that are good at Tahoe? You see them, you're like, God damn, these guys are good. Yeah. Like silky smooth, like on the range before and after, which is crazy to me. Like they are golfers. I really, really want to be good. Like I love to compete, but I'm not doing anything to get there. Me neither, except for this net.

I feel like in the moment I'm going to rise up, and I've had 10 straight years in Tahoe where I've been reaching for it, but I just haven't found it yet. I'm like it was a hammer. Like in the moment, I'm going to rise up and I've had 10 straight years in Tahoe where I haven't, I've been reaching for it just haven't found it yet. I'm eventually going to find it. This is the year. What is it, 25,000?

Yeah. 125K to the winner if you win. No, I'm talking about from you to me. Well, 50 included. Oh, yeah. Charity too.

25,000 in charity as well. Yeah. Good. Shaking in his boots. I feel like you've kind of been bamboozled here publicly because you feel like you're forced to agree to this? No, because you proposed this live on air like 10 days ago. And you accepted it then as well?

Mm-hmm. Oh, no. Oh, no. You know I'm not in middle school. I'm not going to let you bully me. But you accepted today. Yeah. What's that?

You accepted today. Yeah. I solved all I need let you bully me. But you accepted today. Yeah. What's that? You accepted today. Yeah. I solved all I need to see. I've got to get to that. I've got to get to that. Let's cover a couple more things before we get out of here because we have to. At Topgolf in Atlanta, Georgia, when the Super Bowl was happening, we had a Wranglers shootout celebrity classic or something like that

where a bunch of people came through. We're very thankful for them. CAA helped us put it together. CAA put a bunch of people in there. It was very, very nice of them to do so. We filmed it. People did a full top golf round. We had standings. I mean, it was a big ordeal. A lot of people came through. We were very, very thankful. We might do something like this again in the future because of how electrifying it was. There was one man that stopped by who's quarterback for the Buffalo Bills at the time. Now, his agent would go on to call my wife a bitch at some point and think that was okay. That got settled. That got handled. It was uncomfortable. But before that entire moment took place, Josh Allen took the tee box at Topgolf and was

electrifying. Freak athlete. You can already tell just as soon as he picks up the club, he's going to be able to do this. He needed to hit the back net at Topgolf for us to take the lead. And literally, as he was sitting in the Topgolf thing, he swung, he hit the ball, and it went to the moon, and he didn't even watch it full turnaround.

How you doing? Are you not impressed type thing. It was a great moment. Here we go. It was a great moment. It was like, I love this guy as a human, as a competitor. But at that point, we didn't know if he was going to be a great NFL quarterback or not at the time. Had no idea what Josh Allen would become, which is one of the guys in the NFL.

what Josh Allen would become, which is one of the guys in the NFL. At Micah Hyde's softball game this past weekend, with a portion of the proceeds going to the victims of the heinous, fucking terrible, despicable actions of one scumbag at a grocery store in Buffalo, Josh Allen went to the plate with ill intentions on his mind, and look what he does to this softball, A.J. Hawk. Go on! See ya! Run that one more again.

Look how high the ball is. Yeah. Back to back! How you doing? Are you not entertained? Never comes out. 6'5", 235 pounds, incredibly athletic. The confidence in Moxie to be able to do things like that

and become a guy in the NFL. He's becoming the prototype day in and day out. I fucking love that dude. That soft ball, still going. A.J. Hawk. I mean, you can see the ball in the clip. It's rising too as it's going over the, like, who knows? I mean, it may be 200 yards

over the fence and it's still going up. Like, it's yeah, the guy's an absolute stud of an athlete. I'm sure whatever he plays, he's awesome at. Basketball, I'm sure he's a stud. Whatever he does, he's winning. That's a bat flip before the ball even leaves the bat. I'm not worried if it's going foul

or anything. That thing straightens up too. It was hooking a little bit. It seems to stay straight. Let's assume he's a great golfer. Great at ping pong. The walk-off. He still doesn't even look at it. He has no idea where it winds up. He just knows he hits it 8,000 feet. That ball's still going.

He's in five different conversations. Yeah. Hey, this was fun. Raised some money. Turned Buffalo around in the morale a little bit. Hey, how's it going? Hey, good to see you, Josh. Hey, it just landed.

So, yeah, I got a pretty good hold of that thing. What a time to be a Buffalo Bill fan, knowing you've got a guy for, what, the at least next five years? How many years has he signed for? Yeah, he signed for six years, 150, 160. Last year. He's got five years more.

Yep. You hope it's more than five. Yeah. Stud. Probably will be because that contract after this five years. Yeah, and the Colts are going to pay him. Well, I thought you guys were going to get Lamar. No, Colts.

No. Maybe. Yeah. You never know. Hey, he's becoming a golfer, too. you guys were going to get Lamar. No, Colts. No. Maybe. You never know. He's becoming a golfer, too. He took Topgolf onto the course. I love Lamar. I'm happy he's continuing to tweet. We need you on Twitter, Lamar. The golfing community was not happy

with how he had a tee on the green and was putting with a seven iron. Let's assume Lamar will figure out golf in less than a month, and everybody will be pissed off about it. And if not, he's just trying things out out there. Maybe that's his game. He had a tee on the fringe too at one point.

I like that he's posing for the picture putting with a 7 on it. I know you could see the little blade. Well, I in the ball in front of the tee at one point. I love everything about it. Just trolling the golf community, knowing that in just a rather short time, he's probably going to become a guy at golf. Yeah, we'll pay Lamar.

We'll pay Josh Allen. We'll pay whoever. Lamar? He knows. Next year, he's going to win the match. He's the best. Wearing some sick jades. The tee in the green is not a big deal.

No, he's marking his debit. It's ball mark. Yeah. Putting with your 7-iron green is not a big deal no he's marking the ball mark it's ball mark yeah putting with your seven iron also not a big deal no probably snapped his earlier in the round yeah somebody may have a gimme right there in the bottom it looks like that one is that not a gimme let's see or is that his putt yeah i assume that was his putt so what's the where was the ball then was he the tee. Oh, okay. He's putting a little backspin on it maybe? No, it was next to the tee. He was scrambling, and that's where they put that thing so they can mark it.

Yeah, somebody already made the putt. Lamar probably put it there. That's probably where Lamar hits it. Those are sweet golf shoes, too. Oh, yeah, close to the pin. For sure he won. Yeah, absolutely. He's going to be able to figure it out.

Golf, what an interesting sport. One day he got it, the next day he stank. Are you still playing barefoot? No, because I guess you're not as good of a golfer barefoot. I guess there is benefits to having grip. Once that was explained to me, it kind of all made more sense. I put on pretty good vibes, though. Me and Mother Earth are connected before I hacked the shit out of her.

I think she would appreciate that. Pretty good feel for it all. Yeah, but don't you slip a little bit well certainly every once in a while that's one of the drawbacks but i'm comfortable as well well what you want to do is you want to get all the power from mother earth through there i mean you don't need to listen to them do whatever feels best i am i'm doing it right now i feel pretty good by the way my golf swing looks a lot different than it feels. What do you mean? Looks like much worse golf swing than it feels.

Feels like a good golf swing. I think we all have a similar situation there. I was watching those shots that Foxy was filming from this weekend. They were, like, pretty good shots. I'm like, oh, I feel like I really focused in on some things for the swing. You know, the feel versus real thing is a real conversation. Looked vastly different. Don't care.

Thought I kept my feet still. Moved them a little bit. Not as much as I used to. I still got a long time before Tahoe, too, AJ. Oh, yeah, you got plenty of time. Your swing honestly looks good, though. But I know what you're saying, where your swing feels a certain way, and I know it looks nothing like what it feels for me, at least.

Yeah, I felt like I was a pro out there. And it was like, well, that does not look like it. It doesn't matter what it looks like. Like, I'm a field player, so I don't care about my feet. I slip all the time. Like, whatever, I move around. Like, sometimes if I'm trying to hit something else, maybe I'll hit and I'll be walking off the tee as I'm driving.

But then also it goes – sometimes you'll skull it three inches off the ground 50 yards in front of you. In Tahoe, multiple holes in a row, and that's not a lot of fun. Trying to scramble. you know what though when you scramble and scramble in for a bogey after one of those t-shots there's not much there's not much that tops that yeah but you can hit that golf ball 380 too if you get hold of it that's the thing that's why they keep bringing you back right i don't know i'm gonna swing hard like yeah well they bring them back so you can tackle that how many you you tackle stooge ever you stooge tackling every day of the attorney uh no it's only on the thursday pro am day that

ever happened where those guys are posted up i've been tackling them in a few years though no time last year yeah into the water no oh did i yeah we we we brought it back last year a little like it wasn't a big that big of a hit but, we did a little. How many years you didn't do it? A couple years we didn't do it. No, like two or three years we didn't do it. They were like, yeah, what are we doing? We did arm wrestle, different things. Did you win?

Shockingly, I didn't. I'm not a good arm wrestler. I had to tire him out. I had to hold him in. Man, never would have guessed that you'd beat somebody that never trains. The guy's bigger than me, stronger than me, and absolutely his arm wrestling is way more than you. Stronger than you? The dude's like 250 and jacked.

You work out every morning of your life for some random. That doesn't mean I'm stronger than this dude. He does too probably. But arm wrestling, especially my right arm, I got my baby peck too. I tore my peck, so I just had to hold it. I had to post up and hold him for like 90 seconds, get him tired, and then boom. See ya. Yeah, you just kind of lock it in there. Kind of locked in there try to pull it tight do all the cheating you know get

my hand my wrist over yeah yeah did you get it did you guys have the full table i think we grabbed like the edges of the table we each had a holding spot did you stand up or you sit down sat down then probably stood up as i was finishing it off oh yeah take a seat pal how was the was it electrifying or no yeah try hitting a shot after you've been holding your arm up there for 90 seconds that was the tough part too no more arm wrestling i'm undefeated and also i can't swing i'll tackle somebody though you want to put my head through somebody no problem all right let's get the out of here let's enjoy this life here let's enjoy this day we. We'll be back tomorrow. Big time guest tomorrow.

Excited for it. Thanks to the guests who joined us today. Obviously, Tim Peel from his house in St. Louis. Ian Rappaport from his house in New Jersey. He's back to work. He's back. There's some news. Contracts were signed. Jarvis Landry. Maybe this means there'll be some shit that'll happen in the NFL schedule.

OTAs are starting. The stuff's going to start coming out of organizations. More free agents still. Let's go. Plenty left. Also, I'm off to something. What? What's this about? We're back.

Whoa. Has the season returned? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. So this is just like how winter and spring was here in Indy for a bit this season. Okay. That's right.

How you thought it was happening, and then boom. Old man winter came through and said he ain't getting any spring. And then, oh, my God, spring came back. And then boom. Punxsutawney Phil, that rat was right. There's more winter to be had. That's kind of what happened to up to something season. Up to something season was happening.

And then boom. Bunch of cold water was d happened to up to something season. Up to something season was happening and then boom! A bunch of cold water was doused on up to something season. I was like, alright baby, we're just chilling, chilling, chilling, chilling. No up to something season. Then bang! Up to something season spraddled up out of that water that was doused on top of it even better and stronger. The seed had blossomed and now will up to something

season come to fruition? I'm not 100% sure but we are in the middle of it. And will there be a grand finale? Will there be a championship ending of this Up to Something season? I do believe so, but we are not out of the woods just yet. Wow. Okay, AJ? I like Up to Something season. I mean, I feel like it's always there if we need it.

Like, it can always pop back up. It's always there. It's always there. It's always there. It's always there. It really is. It's always there. You're always up to something.

Always. You know, but what is worthy there. You're always up to something. Always. You know, but what is worthy of up to something season? Bingo. That's to your discretion. Well, that's become a little bit more difficult as somethings have been up to. Are the poopies negotiation up to? That is not a part of up to something season. I was hoping that was what it was.

Poopies up to something season is not negotiated. No, unfortunately. I did get a follow-up from Poopies guy saying, hey, where we at? Where we at with this? So I think you're right. I think Poopies is, you know, calling for some cash right now. And I would love to support Poopies because the entertainment that Poopies has given me. Right.

But also, the way they went about it, just not, you know, that's not how I do business. Sorry, Bob. That's not how it works, Poopies. He's a young superstar. Everybody, you know, has to learn. But it's not Poopies. No, it's not how I do business. Sorry, Bob. That's not how it works, Poopies. He's a young superstar. Everybody, you know, has to learn. But it's not Poopies. No, it's Poopies' representation. Poopies doesn't even know we're reaching out, I bet.

Well, fucking, we'll find Poopies. We'll find him. We'll figure this out. For the good of Poopies, we'll do that. But Poopies is not a part of up-and-something season. No. Up-and-something season, pretty large. Okay.

Poopies could be, I guess. No, no, he's not. No, I will say, Po poopies is not a part of some season it's pretty big though pretty pretty big what's that you got any hints no i'll give it away there's like two i don't know all right we're back tomorrow everything i was about to say would be like nah not done yet nah not losing leverage there

nah not doing that you know gotta do all that stuff probably smart I think so I mean that's what people say this show is isn't it hopefully it's a game show

that you're hosting ooh like Tag or the other ones Holy Moly Holy Moly mmm that's Jet Test

the worst thing yeah I'm not a part of that are they bringing back Hole in the Wall holy moly that's Joe Testor's thing yeah I'm not a part of that are they bringing back Hole in the Wall oh what is that dude

alright we talked about the other times come on oh yeah yeah yeah the shape they have to run through I thought it was another one no you don't run you have to stand through

you have to stand you have to be able to match the wall Diggs described a different show that was named Hole in the Wall to me. Oh, come on. It's also a good one.

I'm not hosting any Japanese game shows that you guys are talking about. I think he was talking about the sex ones. Oh, yeah. I think he is talking about that. You guys are a bunch of scumbags. And obviously, you guys have to take up some season to a place it doesn't deserve to go to

What type of toxic shit does this place have to offer What's the deal We got interns here What's the deal We just got one intern here The other one's just hanging out To be clear I'm fucking out of here To be clear I'm out of here on Friday

So everything you're saying right now Save it I ain't getting a laptop To be clear, I'm out of here on Friday, so everything you're saying right now, save it. I ain't getting a laptop, all right? It's a new person I don't know about? Yeah. We have an intern right now. And he took Friday off and is not getting a laptop, you say? Well, we don't know if he took Friday off yet.

We'll have to find out on Friday. But does not have a laptop. No. He's too qualified. Yeah. He's too qualified. Doesn't have a laptop. Has a PC. Sorry about it. Better computer. Runs quicker. And anime can flow through here.

Which one's sticking around? Is it the cool one or the weird one? I don't know. Alright. Do they know who is who if you say that? All right, we're getting out of here. Okay, this is unbelievable. I hate interns.

I hate having them. I hate worrying about this guy, you know, whether or not he learned something. I feel like this morning we put together a good program. Yes. He'll learn something. Feels like he's going to learn something. Great program. Now, no laptop day one, kind of a tough start in the internet business.

But we'll figure it out. Only up from here. Does he get college credit? No colleges reach out to me. I'm going to work on your end. No colleges reach out to me. So I don't believe. This is life.

This is a life credit that's happening. I guess I'm going to have to fucking pay him. No, internships. No, internships. I think you have to, right? This is why I don't dabble in this. Do I know anything about this world? No.

Do we have an actual program for this guy? No. Did he show up with a laptop? No. Is it an internet business that needs a laptop? Probably. Yes. You can always go with the Gary Vee method.

And after we get out of here, walk out there and back, I'm going to need you to write me a check for $1,000 right now. $380 for today's work. $ work yeah just like the golf thing that's right cover the golf you get to come in here do your thing and then you pay 400 on the way yeah bamboozling right as he's about to go home for the night you're sucking what you want to get home want to get out of here no big deal just need 400 right now preferably in cash maybe i don't think we'll do that but something to think about paying them in knowledge but Maybe. I don't think we'll do that, but something to think about. Paying them in knowledge. But are we?

I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, they'll learn something. Is he a doofus, too? We don't know. We will find out. Well, so far, definitely. No.

I think he didn't bring a laptop. Yeah. But, hey. Not even a book bag. He's been asking good questions, though. He has. A couple good ones. Great questions.

He's eager. How did he get hired? Not even a pen and a notepad, though. He has. A couple good ones. Great questions. He's eager. How did he get hired? Not even a pen and a notepad, though. Same way everything else happens. I get asked a question, I say yes. And then it ends up biting me in the ass later. I'm happy about this, though. He's a long-running guy.

Seems like it. Huh? I mean, it seems like it's smashing success so far. It's day one. Five hours in. Day one. Hopefully he told his parents, hey, watch this show. They may talk about me and they see you trashing them.

Well, his parents know. Do they? His parents are excited about this, I think. And he will learn. Yeah. He has to. Life experience. Yep. I like watching you really put a bow on it and make it positive.

He's going to learn more here than I do. Dude, I like watching you really put a bow on it and make it positive. I fucking hate, like, this is a thing that I don't like, but this kid seems like a good guy. Everything I've learned about him, good guy. He's new. He doesn't know, like, how everything goes yet. It's probably hard to, like, retrain somebody. No, this dude's a good guy. He's a good guy. This guy's a good guy. Just be a liar. I just don't like worrying about people, though. You know what I mean? Like, I don't like

having extra people to worry about. Like, okay, is this person getting something out of this? Is this person doing something? Like, I don't like, I'd rather like, hey, we work. Like, we got a lean crew here. This is what we do. Let's go. So to everybody, I get asked a lot.

Like, hey, what's it going to take for me to work for you, work for you? Can I work for you? Can I work for you? And I appreciate that. It's an absolute honor. On the follow-up, though, I don't have enough emotional investment to care about everybody on whether or not it is working out for them or not because everything else is kind of going you know so i kind of hate that whole process i hate that whole process of the whole thing you know i get it believe me i yeah i completely understand bad leader

bad leader hate it not meant for you know like i hate it don't like it but i think this one's gonna be good yeah seems like great work ethic. That's right. What about the other one? Mitt's taking them away. That one's leaving on Friday. He cares about the other one. Yeah, he's just chilling.

Getting some jumpers in. Mitt's got them. Yeah, Mitt's got them. Mitt has been running them through the 101. He did. Right? There was a delivery this morning, and right away, about 9.30, first thing I did, hey, put those fucking stacks away.

All right? Fucking here, here, here, those there. It was awesome. Getting to it. Pretty cool to watch a little, you know. Yeah. A little bit of emotion from Mitt. Taking charge.

Yeah. Mitt's been the newest worker here for like two years now, so he's had to do all of the, you know, like, hey, yeah, it's just kind of your thing. So now, you know, I guess that is good news for the new guy. Yeah. The time is being passed. Mitch just gave a big fist bump in the back there. Yeah, I don't have to take out the fucking

trash every day. It's gone a lot easier now. You don't have to go uphill both ways to take the trash out. Oh, yeah, he did say that. It snowed every day I took the trash out the last two years. He was giving them a back in my day. He was giving them a back in my day earlier.

It's awesome. It's unbelievable. This is amazing. We will, Zito just made a very good point in my ear. We will have to have the intern be at AJ's house for at least a week to see how the other half of this whole operation. Guy know how to be productive.

Have to study him. Because if he's not on that side of it, then he really get a full picture. And that's on me to make sure this motherfucker's ready. Actually, I believe they live in the same area. Used to, potentially. But it is on me to make sure this one is all the way ready for the world when he leaves here. How is he supposed to be ready if he doesn't go to fucking Uncle AJ's? Send him over.

Listen, hey, send him to Columbus, Ohio. You want him to be well-rounded, have range? Guess what? There's somebody who's getting back in town tonight who just opened up an HVAC company with multiple vans that this guy can intern for general law. No. He becomes a plumber.

That's not how it works. You want to be able to do everything, right? I don't think that's the field that he is looking to get into. Bob might be his professor, though. Maybe. Just saying. He's at Ohio State. He goes to the Ohio State, this guy.

What's he doing there? Exactly. That's a horror one. Shut up with no laptop. What the fuck is the Ohio State doing over there? I would imagine they give out, like, all their books and stuff are probably on iPads. Exactly.

Hey, you're going to do great. We'll get him. I never had any verbal tests. His computer's too nice. It's not good enough. So he didn't bring it? Well, he would have to bring the entire fucking... He built a goddamn PC. He did say he could go back

and get the rig and transport it back. We don't have enough space. We don't have enough space for this guy's operation. Okay? We're not equipped for our intern. And that is a problem. That's why I don't like doing it. This dude probably knows more than we do.

Now I'm supposed to be in charge of this fucking guy? Bill would come in early and piss all over his PC. Oh, yeah. Job security. That guy's got too good of an anime over there. Seems to be pretty similar to Bill, which is alarming. We've got one Bill. Don't need two, but...

What's alarming about that? Don't need two Bills. Don't need one Bill. I think every operation needs one Bill. I think you need two bills. I need one bill. We don't want serial killers teaming up. I think every operation needs one bill. I think you need one bill. Bill's writing the code for YouTube right now. Yes. Putting the clips together back there,

writing the entire code for that website that we used to rip the clips. He's building a computer to be faster. Scanning anime. He tells us, yes, about the anime world, what's hot, what's not. Popping. About to get popping. Watching Call of Duty League. Boom.

That's what I'm saying. All the things that we do not have covered are Huntsman fan. Yeah, that's right. Chicago Huntsman fan. Billy has. What is that team? You have zero respect for fucking anybody that tries hard at anything. You hear me?

The e-gamers? Yes, the fucking Huntsman. The fucking cowboys of the e-gaming league. There's people all over the world that work hard that I don't know about. Well, and the internet, though. This is where you work. That's why this intern's coming. I don't work on the e-

You know, I'm not so much- I haven't dove into the e-gamer side of the internet. Me neither, but Bill helps us. We all want Bill. That's AJ's homework. All I know is Dr. Disrespect's probably the best gamer, right? Is that what everybody says? Bill has a favorite athlete.

I can't remember his name. Scump. Scump. Optic Scump. Optic Scump. Oh, so that's not even part of the Huntsman? His favorite player doesn't even play for his favorite team? No.

See, that's what I'm talking about. We don't know enough about the world, but we got one Bill. That's right. I think we might have two now. It's going to be great. We're back tomorrow. Hammered down to be in about 15-20 minutes. Do I have to write an entire fucking program for this guy?

No, no, no. You already did this morning. I was going to say, yeah. He'll get his first dose right after we're done here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ty's excited for this guy's arrival. The editing of the podcast is all of a sudden being handed over to somebody else who doesn't have a laptop yet. So that'll happen. Pretty big job.

Tomorrow. Huge job. Yeah. Huge job. Monotonous. And you're going to trust him day one with that? Well, we'll see. He doesn't even have a computer.

He's a complete doofus, too. You'll be able to tell pretty quickly. Thank you for that. Which is good. You bet. Test one coming right up. Fucking make him fill out a whole thing. Oh, I will.

Now, end of this thing, we're having a full written exam. Yeah. Yeah! Yes! We get to put together an exam! Hell yeah. A choice? Scantron?

Yeah. Yeah, definitely multiple choice. Okay. There will be a couple fill-in-the-ans answers, though, and it will be mostly opinions on people. Gotcha. I like that. You know what I mean? Like who was nicest to you.

Yeah. Tell them things. Doubtful. Give them one of those personality tests. Highly doubtful. Tom's trying to run this guy out of the building this morning already. I already showed him how to win bets, so. All right.

Yeah, if this dude, by the way, can have zero other skills. Imagine if he goes on a three-month run of just picking winners. That's as easy as it could be for this guy. That could work, too. Hey, let's go, huh? Here we go. Here we go, huh? What if he's taking a dump in your private bathroom right now?

He won't be. He could be. He's going to learn another lesson, then, if he does. It's also good. This is great. I don't like this whole part of it, but this guy's worth it. I like the cut of this dude's jib.

Thus far. Hammered down 15, 20 minutes or so. I do. Speaking of cut of the jib, MCDC cut a promo? Yes! How did we just get to this? This is a great closer here. MCDC has proved time and time again that he can cut a promo on Yes. How do we just get to this? This is a great closer here. MCDC has proved

time and time again that he can cut a promo on anything. Whether it's non-kneecaps or shoot a forward hurt man or any coffee. However you need. Whatever you need. Motor City Dan Campbell, the head coach of the Detroit Lions can cut a promo on it. It might sound

terrible. It might sound bad. But let MCDC stew on it and be forced to be a part of it, and he will find the positive. He will find the motivating. This is what 1 p.m. at 1 p.m. MCDC came out and said about the Lions having zero primetime games. Any thoughts on the team being the only team in the NFL to show up on a primetime game?

It's awesome. One o'clock games. It's awesome. It's great. One o'clock. You knock them out, you go home, you get ready for the next opponent. You're not waiting all day in the hotel, all night, you know, and then you go up. Now you're on a short week, it feels like. So I got no problem, you know. And by the way, you can get flexed 5 to 15 so so who says we can't get flexed huh wow week 14 how about them lines when we're 13 to know how about it pal how about how about those other teams that have been able to be successful while playing in primetime games it's like a short week every single week i don't know how they do it i should almost be more impressed with the teams that get primetime games and win on a regular basis. But

MCDC's job, a head coach's job, is to make every situation seem like it is set up for your success. He has that ability in bunches. I love Motor City Dan Campbell, AJ. I think it's a great representation of having some perspective. Hey, it doesn't sound like garbage. He's just trying to say, okay, yeah, I'm just going to sound positive. Honestly, he's got a little bit of an argument here. If we don't have any primetime games, guess what? We're going to have them because we're going to win games. We're going to be flexed.

He's letting you know they're a little prediction almost. You guys are sleeping on us now. You won't sleep on us later. And, yeah, as far as rest, recovery, preparation, maybe they have a little head up. Maybe everyone's going to be crying that they don't want any more primetime games after the Lions go undefeated this year. Well, that's the thing.

The Lions go undefeated with zero primetime games. Everybody's going to be wanting to play at 1 o'clock. The thing about playing at 1 o'clock is you don't have to worry about walking around the hotel room and doze and doze and doze and doze during the 1 o'clock games. I fucking can't tell you. We're playing at night. Why are we playing at doze and doze during the 1 o'clock games. I fucking can't tell you. We're playing at night. Why are we playing at night?

We should be playing at 1 o'clock. I know Friday night lights is where fucking football started, but this ain't that. This is 1 o'clock. We get home. He's watching film on the next opponent immediately after that game. 4-15, the national game or whatever on Fox, MCDC's never heard of it. He's watching film on the next opponent.

Sunday night football, fuck off, Chris Collinsworth. I don't want to see a Don. I am watching a film of The Next Opponent. Evan Foxey, this guy is able to motivate anybody, anything, even Lions fans who had two wins last year. This is a win, right, pal? Bingo. I absolutely love this.

I'm very surprised, though, that he didn't take the route of chip on the shoulder, no respect, and we're going to earn our respect. But he's happy. He did without saying it. I give him credit. He did it without saying it, though, Fox. You don't want Dan Campbell to sit there and go, we have this just another chip.

And that gets old hearing people say that. So let other people say it for him. And he knows in that meeting room with just players and coaches, that's exactly what they're saying. How about when he puts the one up? So everybody can see it. It's awesome. This is what time? Eastern, not Central. Right.

This is the game time. All 17 of them. We're going to be in a bunch of like 14 other games at the same time. The only people that are going to be able to watch us are just people around Detroit. The people that are going to be able to watch us is just the people around Detroit. The people that are going to be calling the game, not that great at calling the game, but we're fucking ready to study our next opponent immediately afterwards, man.

Yeah. Wish we played at fucking noon. Can we put these games at 10 a.m. like it's England, but it's in Detroit? That's what I fucking want. That's why MCDC is going to win up there in Detroit. Yeah, and also, like you mentioned, I'm glad that even for these one – I assumed every game day he's waking up at 6 a.m. just slamming his head into the wall until the game starts.

Probably 5. 5 maybe. 6 a.m. a little late for those mornings. Yeah, I guess you're right. So saving that extra seven hours of him slamming his head into the wall, we'll get a better MCDC down the stretch. How many concussions are we saving MCDC from getting from hitting his head off the wall if it was a primetime game every week and said it's

just one o'clock? That's what, four or five hours ahead of us? Yeah. And the fact that you guys think that he sleeps at all the night before the game is... I'll probably douche douche and ambient. Yeah. What time do you guys wake up? 5 a.m., right? That's how you guys judge who's waking up early and who's not. 6 a.m. kind of a weak sauce wake up time?

What do you mean? Like you, you know what I mean half-ass in it that's it you you early i don't care at all what time anybody wakes up you know i don't know that because you would try to alpha another morning person if you were to get into a conversation with the morning person about the morning routine never ever i don't care about your routine i don't care about what you eat i don't care about anything oh i ate a lot this weekend by by the way. I'm pooping still. I'm going to be pooping. I'm going to try to fast for the next three days. I burped up puke last night.

That's how stuffed I was. I ate so much, I burped, and it was in my... Would you have a mouth throw up? Everything. Piping hot fazolinis did not make the cut. Got to get some breadsticks from there. Babies do what you did all the time last night. It's not wrong.

Yeah, but they're growing. I'm at max A size. I bet, too. I feel fat, though. I got to start waking up at 5 a.m. like AJ Hawkins. Oh, yeah. Hitting that. What is that?

Versaclimber? Versamex? Versax? Yeah, Versaclimber. Versaclimber. When are you putting the Hawk House together? Have we seen any designs from that? No, Zeke sent me some stuff, and then I just got a video from Tim, your dad, so tell him

thank you. Hey, no problem. What was it, the video, the walls? Of the room, yeah, just like all the way around. Hey, don't be taking this as a joke. I'm not taking it as a joke. Believe me, I'm trying to get some at least pictures put together of what it could look like.

Well, this is our fitness, our life, our health, our future on the line. What if we move in there and it's not done because you were fucking around? Yeah. I mean, it's a very real possibility. I don't know when that's going to be done, and I don't know about the supply chain. Are we serious? Whoa.

It's not a birthday. Next time you go to South Bend Digs, talk to Mayor Pete for me and see if we can get some equipment here. I don't know what that has to do with anything. Follow-up, supply chain's an okay excuse for somebody's birthday. You're missing their birthday or forgetting to get them a gift. And it can be something that is real. But this gym that you've had weeks and weeks

and weeks of prep and if it's not ready in 75 days, are you kidding me, dude? It's bad. It's your ass. I didn't know we had that much time, but it could be ready. It could be ready. It has to be. Are you not worried about our health?

I am worried about your health, for sure. Thank you. I want to make sure we do it right, though. Don't just slop it together. It's such a nice place. Well, we got a good logo for the Hawk House. We'll debut that with the Thunderdome's debut. Alright, hammer down 15-20 minutes. I'm happy we covered

everything we had to cover. I'm going to go figure out what the fuck this intern is going to do. See you guys tomorrow. You are the best

people on earth. Bye. I'm out. Thank you. so Thank you.