The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 665 - The Mayor Sean Casey, Cris Collinsworth, Bill Burr, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 17, 2022

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the news that Monday Night Football games will be able to be flexed this next weeks 14-18, and all the biggest news across the sports landscape a...s they also make way for three great guests. First Cincinnati Reds Hall of Famer, 3x All-Star, 12 year MLB veteran, host of The Mayor's Office, and MLB Network analyst, The Mayor, Sean Casey joins the show to chat about why the Pirates stink, a rundown of where baseball is at right now in the season, how much impact the juiced balls will have, some great stories about Jim Leyland, and more (15:19-31:43). Next, 8 year NFL veteran at WR, 3x All-Pro, 3x Pro Bowler, Color Commentator for Sunday Night Football and the owner of PFF, Cris Collinsworth joins the progrum to chat about the new booth for Sunday Night Football, if he expected PFF to take off the way it has, what it was like playing WR in the NFL when he did, and much more in an incredible conversation (57:32-1:18:34). Later, one of the greatest comedians of all-time, ahead of his upcoming tour Slight Return, the legend, Bill Burr joins the progrum to chat about his upcoming special, his tour, playing at Fenway, his current movie that he's writing, directing, and acting in, and much more (1:18:36-1:52:38). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show, and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people! It is Tuesday, May 17th, 2022 and this loaded sports show begins right now! Can't thank you enough for joining us here at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. You are the greatest humans on earth. Thank you for spending your afternoons or your mornings with us wherever the hell you may be. We always enjoy chit-chatting. Today's show is massive. Sean Casey, the mayor, he played in the MLB for 12 years. Damn. Okay? 12 years in Major League Baseball.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Yeah, beast. Now, I'm not getting into it because he's on in like 13 minutes. There's no reason for me to bury the entire sport as a whole. But a team won a game the other night without recording a single success in the batter's box. So that is baseball. Kind of. I'm very confused on how
Starting point is 00:00:55 baseball is baseball and what baseball actually is because there's teams winning that don't get hits. Then the next night they lose 8-0 to a team that they're much better than I guess in the standings and they stink more than anybody else. So I don't get hits. Then the next night they lose 8-0 to a team that they're much better than, I guess, in the standings, and they stink more than anybody else. So I don't fully understand the MLB, mostly because I grew up in Pittsburgh and the Pirates are ass and have been ass for a long time. But this guy, Sean Casey, grew up in Pittsburgh,
Starting point is 00:01:17 went on to have an incredibly successful career, could hit the baseball all over the yard, is electrifying, hilarious, and will give us an update of everything going on in the league that Ty Schmidt and others do enjoy following. Oh, yeah. I love it. I love it. I told these guys, I watch the Yankees basically every single night.
Starting point is 00:01:34 They were blacked out for a four-game set with the White Sox. I was kind of losing my mind a little bit. Oh, yeah. Feening big time. It's crazy. A lot of storylines coming out, obviously, about the balls and the game, and Sean Casey will be electrifying. His podcast is called The Mayor's Office. And's crazy. A lot of storylines coming out, obviously, about the balls and the game. And Sean Casey will be electrifying. His podcast is called The Mayor's Office.
Starting point is 00:01:48 And it is. It's a good one. We listened to a couple clips here the other day. He's a man that can make baseball interesting because he's a Pittsburgh guy. Hell yeah. Bingo. Electric. He's fucking electrifying.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Yeah. I can't wait for his stories and tell us what's going on. In the second hour, we've got Chris Collinsworth. Obviously, Sunday Night Football analyst, former NFL wide receiver, founder of Pro Football Focus, good businessman. He allegedly, I guess he just signed an extension with NBC. He kind of broke quietly during the Drew Brees news that he was leaving because Chris Collinsworth just signed an extension. We might have missed it, but I'm happy for it. I enjoy the hell out of this guy.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Now, obviously, he's working with Tarika, which we've gotten a taste of in the past, whenever Al Michaels is taking a couple weeks off of Sunday Night Football every single season. And every time Tariqa would be in the booth alongside Chris Collins, we're there, but he's like, Al Michaels done? Is he done? It was like, no, just scheduled four games off or three games off that he's doing. With Al Michaels going to Amazon for Thursday Night Football on Prime, Chris Collinsworth now working with Torrico every single week. I can't wait to hear them as a team.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I think they've been good in the past. They'll be good in the future. It's good for the game. It's good for everybody. Can't wait to chat with Chris. I think this is his first time he's been on the show. There's been a couple different times either he's reached out or I've reached out or we've kind of had like a situation where we haven't been able to connect.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I'm excited to chat with him. Seems like a super cool dude. Yeah, for sure. and i won't say this you know i won't speak for anybody seems like he he has smoked marijuana in the past twice i think you could say that most people that have done that i probably enjoy and think oh this person at least is thinking at a different level i think he does he's a deep thinker i think he's smart i think he covers the game well i'm very pumped to chat with chris collinsworth for his debut on the show and then the third hour we have one of the greatest comedians to ever step foot onto stage bill burger yes come on yeah bill burger's about to go on another tour second half our second leg of his tour he's uh the first comedian ever to
Starting point is 00:03:37 be doing fenway here we go grew up in boston went to school in boston probably attended a lot of games down there shot some movies in there Now he sold the place out himself Can't wait to talk to him Legend Next special's coming out June 6th I believe Yes On Netflix called
Starting point is 00:03:51 Bill Burr Presents Friends Who Kill Yeah there it is Whatever the case Another deep thinking Hilarious motherfucker Uh huh Can't wait to chat with him
Starting point is 00:04:01 About all things happening Around his life His world Sports world And what are comedians doing Like what's What are we talking about Yeah
Starting point is 00:04:08 Hey Obviously You got the Will Smith situation Right Sure Is that being chatted about I would assume I think so
Starting point is 00:04:15 Because Chappelle then gets attacked There you go Is Bill Burr doing a full bit Trying to entice somebody To come on the stage So he can fucking knock them out Yeah Is that
Starting point is 00:04:23 Is that what he's got going on? I don't know. I'm excited to chat with him. Also, obviously, a massive Patriots fan. And the Patriots have kind of been leading into, you know, maybe describing positions and who's doing what a little bit more. Yeah. For instance, at Boston, Connor there at the talk table,
Starting point is 00:04:37 alongside at Ty Schmidt, big-time Yankees fan we just learned about. Matt Patricia. Yes. Is now an offensive line coach bingo defensive guru becomes head coach we thought was gm in waiting now offensive line coach for the new england patriots it feels like that has kind of come into the air now that otas is uh kind of unfolding correct do you like this decision i love it especially because patricia said in the article you know i got dante skarniecki on speed dial,
Starting point is 00:05:05 so if I really have anything that I'm not too sure about, I'll just call up the greatest offensive line coach in the history of the NFL. Well, there's going to be a lot of people hating that comment because there's a lot of great offensive line coaches in the history of the NFL, and it's a position that is held in very high regard, obviously, because of how close-knit the community is. So there's probably a lot of people that have created different schemes, strategy, techniques, everything, but one of the greatest of all time i agree yeah for sure i mean
Starting point is 00:05:28 i can't sit here and let you say the greatest of all time because there's numerous offensive line coach that i've been around that ever harold howard mudd is like harold it is one of the the guys of all time and i'm assuming there's a lot more that i don't want to piss off or piss on right now yeah i was kind of trying to piss on everybody else. But, I mean, Bob Wiley from Hard Knocks in Cleveland. You think they were worrying about calisthenics when they were running those beaches in Normandy?
Starting point is 00:05:53 The greatest generation of all time worrying about hamstrings. They're doing fucking push-ups and jumping jacks. That's all. That guy was the best. Is he still coach? Remember he had like a Lambo or something. I don't think so. Remember his big ass got out of a Ferrari or something. It was incredible.
Starting point is 00:06:10 But Matt Patricia going to the offensive line. Joe Judge working with the quarterbacks. He formerly special teams guy goes and becomes a head coach for the Giants. Obviously gets fired. Has a pizza and beer party for the boys. Love everything about Joe Judge and his special teams background. He goes back to New England. Now he's working with the quarterback. I'm working with Mack Jones as well as some other people for the boys. Love everything about Joe Judge and his special team's background. He goes back to New England. Now he's
Starting point is 00:06:25 working with the quarterback. I'm working with Mac Jones as well as some other people on the offense. You'll see me on the field working with the quarterbacks. What's that even mean? So Judge Judge was scared to death to say what he was doing it seems like or give anything away but it feels like he's probably working with the quarterbacks. He's at least on the offensive side of the ball.
Starting point is 00:06:41 By the way, quarterback coach also works with the tight ends, with the wide receivers because they have to relay a message maybe that they're the quarterback is learning this so if you could do this they're kind of uh i don't say they have hands in other people's pots but they do you know kind of coach in other areas as well because the quarterback directly affects so many other positions so joe judge quarterback coach maybe now who's the offense coordinator have we learned about that no still haven't learned about it but isn't this kind of like not a head coach role but don't the head coaches also kind of have their hands in everything so i assume yeah their bill's kind
Starting point is 00:07:12 of comfortable with joe and patricia i assume patricia also this doesn't work i mean there's a chance that'd be a shame you know it would be a real shame ninkovich uh by the way atton diggs and i share the same sentiment it would be a damn shame well Ninkovich, by the way, Aton Diggs and I share the same sentiment. It would be a damn shame. I do. And Diggs was saying it in just, I was saying it in real, because Bill Belichick, greatest coach in GM our game has ever had. Yeah, by far. So I have a lot of respect for him.
Starting point is 00:07:33 He's going to go in the Hall of Fame. This is almost like, you know, when a player, now I'm not saying he has fallen off or will fall off, but if this doesn't work, this is very similar to a player, you know, getting towards the end of his career, kind of pulling all the old tricks and it's just not working how it once did that's how people would judge this entire thing but i can't get past the thought of bill belichick will figure it out and i assume that's just exactly where you're at even if it sounds like questionable even if it sounds like well that doesn't make sense steve belichick are you gonna be calling
Starting point is 00:08:02 plays i don't know i don't really care either okay he definitely knows he probably doesn't make sense. Steve Belichick, are you going to be calling plays? No, I don't really care either. Okay. He definitely knows. He probably doesn't care. He definitely knows, though. Somebody has to know everything. You just assume Bill will be able to figure it out. But with the way the Buffalo Bills are built right now, and not the Miami Dolphins are immediately AFC's champions, but they have gone all in as well.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Now, the Jets, Brady Quinn just fucking bailed out. Brady Quinn, A.J. Hawk's brother-in-law, former Notre Dame quarterback, also with the Browns, the Jets, Brady Quinn just fucking barely got a shot. Brady Quinn, A.J. Hawk's brother-in-law, former Notre Dame quarterback, also with the Browns, the Chiefs, and a couple other teams in the NFL. Incredibly handsome looking lad. You know who he is. He came out and said, I see the Jets being either 0-9
Starting point is 00:08:37 or 1-8 by week 9. So that's already, hey, we're playing for golfing and fishing in the offseason. He's not a believer in the Jets at all. So maybe not the Jets, but everybody else in the AFC East has seemed to up their game. If this doesn't go well, how long does the, hey, you know, Bill figure it out, Bill figure it out goes, you think? I mean, I think it's going to continue just because of Mac Jones. Like when you look at some of these other teams who have had quarterbacks for not even 20 years, but like even the Packers, the Steelers. The drop-off that happens, I think, is large,
Starting point is 00:09:08 and somehow Bill went from Brady to a Cam Newton and only losing nine games, going 7-9, and then only one year after already going back to the playoffs. So the coaching will be interesting. The transition, you're saying, was much smoother. Very smooth and quick. I feel like that drop-off can kind of turn your franchise into sort of a dumpster fire. Not to bring out the Bills, but after Jim Kelly and those Bills,
Starting point is 00:09:30 they kind of went on a 25-year hiatus. Think about Jimmy from the Colts. Yeah, exactly. Jimmy from the Colts went from Peyton to Luck just immediately. Made the playoffs that first year. We were supposed to go. We were predicted to be last in the nfl 32 on all the power rankings basically that was put out there don't listen to the outside noise don't listen what they're
Starting point is 00:09:49 going to say to you also we're going to use this as motivation when everybody has said about you so that's a fascinating little contradiction that happens basically everywhere but that was one year or two and 14 when they didn't know that peyton wasn't going to be able to throw a football in his neck wasn't going to be able to work and And then Andrew Luck comes right in there, steps up, boom, we're back in the playoffs. That's the situation right there. Exactly. Just like the Packers, right?
Starting point is 00:10:11 Brett Favre right into Aaron Rodgers. Now, that was a three-year interesting moment there, right, because he was sitting behind him. But that's the ideal situation. It does not always happen that way. And when it doesn't happen that way, you're just sitting and hoping almost. Like, all right, I hope this quarterback becomes the person. I have all the faith in the world this quarterback's going to be the person.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Then week six comes around, you're like, all right, so who? We could trade for someone. Yeah, yeah. Backup quarterback. Duck came in and saved the day for the Steelers. That's right. Whenever Ben Roethlisberger was out, he was a hero, that guy. Completing seven, eight passes a game, winning games, Duck Hodges.
Starting point is 00:10:43 There was quacks going all through Pittsburgh. You're the guy. So there's a lot of hoping when you don't have a guy. It seems like Matt Jones is the guy, which is good news. But a lot of these decisions, I think, are going to get called into question. They already are. Not that Bill Belichick gives a single damn. But if the Bills continue to just fucking go
Starting point is 00:10:58 and the Miami Dolphins are able to come in there and really do something everybody's hoped that they've been able to do for the last three years or whatever. I would hate to see Bill's last dance not be good. I would hate it. It would be a damn shame. That's why I think it would be a shame. As opposed to Tone saying it would be a shame because he would see the Patriots not do good.
Starting point is 00:11:16 For me, it would be a shame because it's like, okay, maybe the football juice did wear out. You know, like some songwriters, they run out of creativity. They run out of juice. They run out of things. That's right. They run out of juice. They run out of things to write about. They can't do it anymore. So you see their career go, and then it kind of stops. I wonder if the amount of football knowledge that Bill Belichick has, has it gone out, or will that never, ever end for Bill Belichick
Starting point is 00:11:36 now that Ernie isn't around and he's given schedule release breakdowns? I think we're all very fascinated because it is the greatest coach of all time and the greatest general manager of all time at the same time. Yeah, and like you said before, I do have the utmost faith that he's going to continue to do what he does. And I'm not ruling out this year and basically looking ahead, but if this year doesn't go to plan, next year we've got $100 million in cap space. So it's almost like, okay, now we're going to do exactly what we did two years ago
Starting point is 00:12:01 before we got Mack. We'll probably get another offensive lineman, probably get another weapon, load up the defense a little more. So I think because of the fact that McDaniel's left too, Bill's going to keep coaching until, I mean, maybe for five more years. Oh, I didn't think about McDaniel. He's been a very important guy. And he was the next guy.
Starting point is 00:12:20 That's what everyone said after he turned down the Colts. Yeah, he turned the plane around. It was like, oh, they probably told McDaniels, hey, you'll take the reins. But because of the young QB, because of how well we've already kind of turned this new ship into, it just doesn't seem like Bill is on his last nine, especially because the wins record, the all-time wins record is like 40 or so away. He's definitely on his back nine. He's not coaching for another 60 years.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I mean, he might coach for another 10. 10 is more than nine. What's that, nine. He's not coaching for another 60 years. He might coach for another 10. 10 is more than nine. What's that, pal? He's been coaching for longer than nine. Nine is just a metaphor. It's not for the actual nine years. Nope, nope. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:12:55 It's just the back half. Nope, back nine. There's nine numbers, and he's got 10 left, so it's more than the back nine. No, but the metaphor in which he used it is not about an actual number. It is about the second half of a career. don't speak metaphors no i don't speak in metaphors i just speak in numbers and i'm just telling you he's going to be playing or coaching
Starting point is 00:13:12 for more than nine years so he's not on his back nine yet okay i hope he's not on his final nine he's not on his final nine so he's got a 36 hole course that or no i think he's playing 72 today tony well he has been already that's why why the questions are how long is this guy going to be able to swing the club. And it feels like he's able to find a fairway on a regular basis, especially with this new goddamn driver he has with Mac Jones. So I think there's a lot of golf metaphors we could make about this. Another one about him going on forever is right on your chest. Bill Belichick appears to be in great shape.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yeah, he's still working out. He's still stepping under the goddamn squat rack. And he's still screwing with the media, actually. Apparently assistant coaches only get two days that they speak to the media in the offseason. So instead of spreading them out, he put one yesterday and one today. So today's basically just like there's no updates. They're just speaking to the media.
Starting point is 00:13:57 So they get those out of the way, and then they don't have to talk to the media until training camp or whatever. And he's an Emmy-nominated host in the media. That's right. It's all a fascinating situation. Nick, what were you going to say there, pal, before we went on a full back nine metaphor that old Connor did not know about as he was using it?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Nothing really important. I was just saying I personally hope that Bill does another nine years and I hope he goes on the Adam Sandler run where the... We were not happy about the Sandman! What are we doing? What the hell? Man, wait for that Hubie Halloween season.
Starting point is 00:14:28 That's going to be tough. That was a 7-9, Hubie Halloween. And you know what? No, no, no, no, no, no. Hubie Halloween was a playoff. Thank you. Adam Sandler has not had a 7-9 season. Don't fall into that.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Hey, I've been the biggest proponent of Hubie Halloween for years. You just got bamboozled into saying he had a losing season. That 7-9 season was the most impressive season Bill's ever had. That was the worst roster in football history. So you're saying it was a terrible concept, made it pretty good. And he still made it good. What was Sandy 0-17? Sandy with a Super Bowl run?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Sandy might have been the one they lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl because Gronk was hurt because there was a little bit of... Anyways, let's move on. That's fucking unbelievable what you just did. That was disrespectful. You hear me, Nick? I hear. I hear. Especially after Sandman's new trailer. Come on. He looks so good.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I know. Joining us now is a man that's always great. Not just good. He's great. There had never been a 7-9 season with this guy. No, no. He's the host of the Mayor's Office podcast that Ty listens to literally on a very regular basis. Oh, yeah. Love it.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Absolutely love it. You can see him on the MLB Network, I believe. The man is electrifying every time he speaks because he was a 12-year Major League Baseball player who could hit the ball all over the yard. An absolute stud. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Casey. What's up, fellas? It's a huge party there every day.
Starting point is 00:15:52 It's a huge party. I love that. I love it. Yeah, that's why we're so excited you join us. You bring that atmosphere. You bring that vibe. We appreciate you. I'm excited to chat.
Starting point is 00:16:02 You know, the Pittsburgh Pirates won a game without registering a hit the other day, Sean. Okay, so explain the sport to me. How does that work? How did they get a win? And did the other pitcher have the best day of his life and still get a recorded loss in that? How did this work and why do the Pirates stink, Sean? Why do the Pirates stink?
Starting point is 00:16:20 Isn't that crazy? I mean, Hunter Green for the Reds was just dominating the whole time. I think he had sixth and third, no hit innings. They were going back and forth. And then the Buccos found a way to pull off a win. I think a couple walks late, they end up – I'm not exactly sure.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Was it a wild pitcher or over for a batter or something? Next thing you know, they get a W at 1-0. They walked them full, and then it was a fielder's choice. Oh, so we got good eyes. Good eye, good eye. Fielder's choice, and it's just the way the Reds have been playing this year, and the Buccos and the Reds were fired up to play each other because they both think really scuffling.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Great way to describe teams that stink. I guess the Cubs are worse than both of us. Slow start, slow start. Chicago Cubs are worse than both of us. Chicago Cubs are worse than both of us. How is the season going? Are the teams that we expected to do well at the beginning of the season doing well now? Any surprises, Sean? If you were to talk to somebody
Starting point is 00:17:14 that has not been following the season, what are the storylines, you think, Sean? Like you? I'm talking about the listeners, the viewers. Not me, Sean, of course. I think the Yankees are better than we thought. I mean, they're 26-9. They're absolutely dominating.
Starting point is 00:17:30 You know, everyone hits homers in that lineup. You know, Anthony Rizzo's brought a ton. Donaldson, all those guys. Judge is huge. Stanton, the pitching's all good. I think the Mets are the team right now, 23-13. I think Buck Solwater coming along for them. Being that manager has been huge.
Starting point is 00:17:46 But, man, they're dominating in the NL right now, and DeGrom is not even part of their staff. So, you know, they've been a huge team so far. The Padres have been really good. New manager to them, Bob Melvin. Dusty Baker still doing his thing down there in Houston. They're doing well. Minnesota Twins are a big one.
Starting point is 00:18:04 They're a big one. Byron Buxton being healthy, you know, 11 home runs, you know, just coming out the gates, balling already. I think the Twins are a surprise team so far in the Central. Okay, so how far into the season are we percentage-wise, if you had to give it into the entirety? We're just at the beginning. We're probably, what are we, 20-some percent into the season?
Starting point is 00:18:24 We're about 35 games. You only play 162 games in the big leagues, guys. Okay, that's all. No big deal. So many. Sean, that is so many games. I have no idea how 12 years you did that. You're just on the road for 12 straight years, basically.
Starting point is 00:18:41 And if you play a fielding position, you're out there every single night. I have no idea how the body keeps up with it the mental keep up it is such a grind i would assume it doesn't the body doesn't keep up there's not a guy in the big leagues right now at 35 games it's not like bad look minor hamstring pull i think i got something with the hip flexor my neck's not feeling good it's just like that's why they're you know they're grinders you call them grinders because every day there's something going on, but you just show up. You get in a cold tub. You get there three
Starting point is 00:19:09 hours earlier if you're over 30, and you find a way to get out there every day. So, you know, you have to give a ton of credit to these big league players for being able to go out every night and put up the numbers and fail 70% of the time, and you're one of the best players in the game. Any other profession, you're fired.
Starting point is 00:19:25 You're failed. You're out of here, Pat. Yeah, I agree. In baseball, it's Hall of Fame. People say that whenever you stink at something. Hey, in baseball, you'd be in the Hall of Fame if you're able to do that. But in our world, you're going to get fired. That's literally a thing that is said, especially as a kicker.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I was told that numerous times in hilarious fashions. You just got to have a delusional confidence. Is that how you battle through the failure every single night of your life? Or how does it work? Dude, you just play mind games with yourself. Like, no, you know, you go one for four, one for five. You're like, all right. I remember times, bro. I seriously remember like going over like 20 and just insomnia for like, I'm like, I don't know if there's enough Ambien to put me to bed tonight. I'm a mental wreck. I just look at the ceiling for seven hours and go, I can't believe my hands are working the way they are.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Why are my feet so bad? What the hell's going on? I don't recognize any pitches. It's just, it's one of those things. You just got to ultimately believe in yourself in like a ridiculous way and just keep showing up. What is the biggest part of hitting? Seeing the ball?
Starting point is 00:20:28 Is that a big part of it? I think so. Dude, I think the biggest thing when you watch these big league pitchers, especially nowadays, like it seems like everyone throws 100, you just got to really learn how to slow yourself down and live in the moment and like take a breath and hunt the heater and hopefully you get it and don't miss it. I always say if you get a heater and fouled off you might have some big problems on your hands tonight hey
Starting point is 00:20:49 you're hunting the heater huh is that a saying hey hunt the heater out there just like jim leland baby hunt the heater let's go hey he's burning eaters that's our guy. Let's go, Buccos. I love you, too. I love you, too. Buccos. Hey, so you're studying pitchers for their tendencies when you're hunting the heater. Does everybody have the same move? Everybody have the same move? Is that something that actually gets studied or no? No, I think, I personally think most great hitters work off the fastball.
Starting point is 00:21:26 But when I was playing, you would have guys like Manny Ramirez was a guest hitter. You know, Chipper Jones, those guys are guest hitters. But a lot of the guest hitters I played with were some of the worst hitters. What's that mean? I'd have the 200 hitter come up and say. What's that mean, guest hitter? What's that mean? Like you're guessing what the pitch is. You're like, okay, I think he's going to throw me a curveball here.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And the crazy thing is, Pat, if you guessed like, oh, yeah, John Smoltz or Justin Verlander is going to throw me a curveball here. And the crazy thing is, Pat, if you guess like, oh yeah, John Smoltz or Justin Verlander is going to throw me a slider, and your eyes go, yeah, it's a slider, and it's a nasty one, you're not hitting it anyhow. So, you'll hunt the heater, get after the fastball, hit some rockets in the gap, and hopefully you get paid, and you fail
Starting point is 00:22:00 70% of the time and take it to the house. Hey, 12 years of that. 12 years of that. 12 years. That'll make me Sean. Ty, the mayor, can't wait. Sean, Dave Roberts said that they can already tell that the new baseballs are there
Starting point is 00:22:16 and they're starting to fly a little bit. Now, as a Yankees fan, it doesn't really matter because like you said, they've been just fucking mashing no matter what, so I think this will only help them. but how much as a hitter will these guys actually be able to tell the difference uh in the juice balls and what's your take on that man you can definitely tell ty i mean i think i think guys are you know guys are seeing like i think especially when you go opposite field you crush the ball in the opposite field gap if it just hangs up there and as a hitter you know
Starting point is 00:22:45 it's gone like you're like man something's not right and the hitters have to complain man these balls aren't flying as well the pitchers have complained the grip's not as good but i think when you start seeing players hitting the ball the other way and it's going out that's when you know maybe something different's happening so we'll see i mean the last couple years it's been the ball's too juiced now it's not juiced enough it's too slick so we'll see. I mean, the last couple years it's been the ball's too juiced. Now it's not juiced enough and it's too slick. So we'll see what the balls look like in these next few months. Do you really think there's going to be a big change, though? Because the offensive numbers really across the majors have been pretty down so far earlier this year.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Are you expecting that some of these guys who have kind of been struggling or have low averages are going to start hitting a bunch of homers and we're going to see a lot lot more games with more runs scored because the pitchers have been really kind of dominating early. Yeah, the pitchers have dominated. It's really been unbelievable how lopsided it's been. I think the offense is going to get going. There's so many good hitters, you know, in this league and so many dominant lineups and with guys that have kind of scuffled so far. So I think they will get going. There's no doubt about it. But,'re yankees man it seems like hard ball soft ball whatever ball
Starting point is 00:23:50 dead ball era whatever these guys one to nine can hit the ball in the ballpark anywhere hey so that's a real thing huh what do they do they just add a little bit more uh like tightness to the ball how do they juice the ball you think and how big of a difference is it i don't know i mean obviously i don't know those answers because it kind of goes back and forth when you know players say the ball you think and how big of a difference is it i don't know i mean obviously i don't know those answers because it kind of goes back and forth when you know players say the ball's flying out or the seams a little tighter the seams a little lower that's some of the pictures we're saying the last couple years and you know this year they're saying the balls are a little slicker and every ball is hands is hand uh you know woven or whatever you say you know the the seams on the ball are all you know one by one so i the seams on the bar are all, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:25 one by one. So I think any, any ball can be like, is woven. Is that the word I'm looking for? I don't even know. Hand stitched, I believe.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Stitch, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I couldn't think of the word. I'm like stitched, woven, but you know what I'm,
Starting point is 00:24:39 you know what I'm saying, Pat? Yeah, I know what you're saying, dude. Unique brother, you know what I'm saying? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:24:43 absolutely brother. Yeah, the, uh, so when you say the stitching is a little lower, what does that mean? The panel of leather is longer, so it's more of a surface area to hit, or what is that? I don't know, bro. You might have to call Rawlings and ask these questions and maybe see what they have to say. Because I'm definitely not a ball expert, but I would have to think if the seams are a little lower,
Starting point is 00:25:01 maybe the pictures don't get a good enough grip. Because they always talk about they like the seams being up where you could really grip it and rip it and get that spin rate that all the pitchers in the game are looking for nowadays. And now that they're not allowed to use that tack stuff, spider tack too, right? So the pitchers are about to maybe go back into an era where they have less grip on the ball so it doesn't move as much. So when you're hunting heaters, a curve might be a heater because the motherfucker doesn't have a curve, right? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:31 That curveball might hang up tears just a little bit. And you know what they say, Pat. I don't know if you know, but they say in baseball, you hang it, we bang it. Yeah, we got good wood on that song, bitch. Yeah, Mayor, I also hunt heaters, but in the form of cigarettes just like my favorite manager uh jim leland do you think there will ever be another jim leland or is that kind of style of that manager uh something that's common today you know what i i hope so because gosh man leland is
Starting point is 00:26:00 just one of a kind was you know just one of, you know, in between innings. You know, listen, spikes high. He'd wear full unis with spikes on, ready to go. So you'd come out. He'd be in the dugout at like 630 for a 7 o'clock game. You're like, oh, my God, he's already got seven heaters down. You know, just, you know, all over everybody, ready to go. And in between innings, he had a little chair. He would, you know, in the 90s when he was at the Buccos,
Starting point is 00:26:23 he's just in the dugout curling it up, just ripping them. And then when he was with the Major League Baseball, I was like, we don't approve of that, Jim. You got to get out of here. So then when he was
Starting point is 00:26:32 with the Tigers, he had a little chair down the stairs. So the inning would end, he would sprint down the stairs and sometimes jump down a flight to get down there
Starting point is 00:26:40 and would rip two heaters in the inning. And I hope there's a, I hope there's managers that still like Jim Leland because this guy was the greatest ever. And Cooperstown better be calling here soon. Yeah, they better have a couple packs too. It sounds like better get a whole carton for this guy.
Starting point is 00:26:55 What if they, what's it called when they make a motor? The bust? What if they make a bust of his face and then a carton of six? Yeah. And then a carton underneath. I mean,on underneath i mean that would be i mean not great for the game i guess a modern era but still fucking great for jim go ahead tone uh mayor who the fuck do these umps think they are they think this game is about them i mean the check on mad bum where the ump just stares him in the eyes waiting for him to look at him who do these
Starting point is 00:27:23 fucking guys think they are? These God complex men. Well, you know, I tell you what, it's one of those things where, you know, I think the umpires at times, you know, they have that same feeling of like, you know, they're getting yelled at all game long from fans from both sides of the dugouts. And I think sometimes they, you know, they go to that human feeling of, listen, we've had enough. And the whole incident with Mad Bum was not okay. I mean, I don't even know if he checked Mad Bum's hands. He kind of just stared at him the whole time and then tossed him out of the game
Starting point is 00:27:54 when he said, hey, listen, get this good thing going. But, hey, the umpires, you know, they have their moments too, and just like every player does. Is that spider attack thing going to be real forever? You mean no more spider attack? Yeah, you spider attack thing going to be real forever? You mean no more spider attack? Yeah, you think that's going to be real forever? They go back to these slick balls.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I bet you the pitchers get that spider attack back in there, I would assume. Well, you know what? Sometimes guys will find ways to get stuff on the ball, or they are talking about making them. Oh, will you tell us one of those ways that you've heard about hilarious fashion? Because I see them checking hats, inside of gloves, inside of shirts. It's like almost childish where they're like, oh, well, we got to check your belt too, the back of your belt because people have done. Is that real? All those places have been used?
Starting point is 00:28:34 Well, I remember one of the pitchers I played with used to, you know, I think they might have caught the pine tar on his hat or something. So the next time we were out there, he was like, check case he's like look at this right here he goes i got some pomade on my neck clear pomade so he's like pomade to the rosin to the ball that was bringing some really sticky stuff i was like now that's a lot better than being you know right in the open with the pine tar the pomade to the raws it's clear you can get away with it but now now with the umpires on top of it it's tough man i can't imagine guys trying to put anything any substance on a ball it's funny to think though that that's literally the lengths that they have to go to catch professional baseball players like hey that's part of that's kind of the niche of the game though right is there's like the strike zone moves
Starting point is 00:29:23 they're everybody's trying to get one up on the other. It feels like that is a massive part of it. Is it because it's so old, the game? Because it's so long, you have so much time to think about all this stuff? Why do you think baseball has gotten to the point it is and the style it is? I think so. Listen, you know, at the end of the day, Pat, I mean, it's been around 150 years. It's America's pastime.
Starting point is 00:29:42 A lot of guys have figured out a lot of different ways to get a competitive advantage. You know what I mean? So I think, you know, with the replays and the videos now, watching these guys like Hawks, it's tough to do what the guys did back in the, you know, even 10 years ago or in the 90s, 80s, 70s. You know, the guys that some of those guys were doing was, you know, with the nail filers and all the things they were doing. A lot more cheating back then. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Sounds like the NFL guys go back and they're like, oh, your camps are so weak. This is what we used to have to do. The old baseball players go back and they're like, so you guys can't just take a razor out and just start slicing off that ball? Kind of get you a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I can't do that anymore. He's like, no, they stopped that like 20 years ago. Wow. This game. So soft. So, so soft. How do you think baseball is recovering after all the shit that happened this offseason? Was there any blip, you think, in coverage, PR?
Starting point is 00:30:40 How are relations, you think? What do you think about the state of the MLB right now after what we just went through? I don't think so. I mean, I think it was a needed thing, you know, with the collective bargaining agreement. I think both sides kind of figured out that, you know, it needed to move in, you know, as better for the players and maybe what the owners had to. But I think missing no games, I think is huge. Listen, did they miss some time in the offseason? Didn't get going right when it wanted to, spring training a little bit. But I think the biggest thing is you're still playing 162 games.
Starting point is 00:31:10 You're still getting all your games in. And I think baseball doesn't miss a beat for a little bit of the lockout they had because they didn't lose any games. Well, we can't wait to continue to listen to the mayor's office and to hopefully chat with you as this baseball season continues to unfold, Mayor. Looking forward, Pat. Anytime, man. Love being on the show
Starting point is 00:31:28 and you guys are awesome, man. And like I said, it's a big party in the Pat McAfee Show. I love you guys. I appreciate you. Check out the Mayor's Office's podcast is electrifying.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Ladies and gentlemen, Sean, the Mayor. Okay, say it. Yeah, Mayor! The soccer world is about to be rattled to its core. Everybody knows the name. Messi. Once a player for Barcelona. His entire life,
Starting point is 00:32:06 born and raised within the confines of the Barcelona Football Club. He went to school there. He trained there. He worked there. He became the greatest soccer player on earth at Barcelona FC.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Then, when he left and went to PFG just last offseason because Barcelona almost went into bankruptcy. That's right. He kind of disappeared. Yeah, he did. And when he disappeared, people were like, is Messi done on the soccer field? He was great at Barcelona.
Starting point is 00:32:39 He was the greatest at Barcelona. Now he's become somebody that nobody even chats about the announcement has been made methi is coming to the m l s yeah lionel methi is set to head to the mlf in 2023 the argentine will spend next season at PSG before leaving European football and buying 35% of Inter-Miami, being Jackie Moon and joining David Beckham's franchise. There is a total agreement between both parties. Source Alex Candle, this is via Transfer News Live on Twitter. I hate to say this to the world.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I hate it. I don't like to do this. I like to be a beacon of optimism and positivity and everybody's welcome here and everybody is welcome here and your chats and conversations and thoughts are certainly appreciated, respected
Starting point is 00:33:43 in this particular conversation and show. But soccer's our game now. Sorry, boys. Sorry about it. We're about to win the soccer Lombardi in Qatar. They're playing it during American football season. You think that's a coincidence? No, because it's our fucking game now.
Starting point is 00:33:58 We got Messi coming over. Wait till Ronaldo signs over here. Zlatan Ibrahimovic was already here, obviously. The MLS is about to be a problem we want inter-Miami in the Champions League starting immediately upon Messi's arrival you're welcome world you're welcome soccer it's our game now Gumpy did I get everything right there did I miss anything in the soccer history in the future, that is 100% ours now. Spot on, my friend. This is what the MLS
Starting point is 00:34:28 wanted when it started. Guys like this who are at a point in their career where they're not playing in Europe anymore, now they come to the MLS and dominate. What point is that? Their best, their prime? This is when they're playing their best soccer? I'm not so sure Mbop doesn't come over and play for Miami too, because he's up in the air.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Well, I've seen David Beckham over there dapping everybody up at PSG. This is probably when he was negotiating a deal with Methi to buy into Miami. But maybe Mbop comes over with Methi. I don't know if they like each other. Did they play good together this year? Mbop, unfortunately, just signed with Real Madrid for next season. Maybe. No, no.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Maybe if he's a player coach. Does he own the team? If he hates Messi's guts, maybe he fucking goes and signs with the Portland Timbers. Could you imagine Mbop up there at the Portland Timbers? Oh, God. Dude, imagine Mbop and Lionel Methy taking their respective clubs into the MLS championship and then going and competing in the Champions League. Now we got a league.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Now we're playing soccer. What if CR7's on the Red Bulls? What's that scumbag Zidane up to? What do you mean? and then going and competing in the Champions League. Now we've got a league. Now we're playing soccer. What if CR7's on the Red Bulls? Well. What's that scumbag Zidane up to? What do you mean? He's your coach. He's a coach now.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Yeah. He's a coach. I mean, Neymar could come and play for the New England Revolution. No, no. We're the best team in the league. We're going to be this year. Columbus Crew got a brand new stadium. Maybe CR7 goes and plays for the Columbus Crew. Works, Cristiano's Columbus Crew. Wouldn't he hate that? Rado ain't going to be this year. No, the Columbus Crew got a brand new stadium. Maybe CR7 goes and plays for the Columbus Crew.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Works, Cristiano's Columbus Crew. Wouldn't he hate that? Rondo ain't going to Ohio. The minor league team just beat the Columbus Crew, Pat. Oh, you're right. Yeah. Is Messi going to score like eight goals a game? Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:57 I don't know who that is. So when David Beckham signed with the MLF, this was at like the middle of the Beckhamania that was going on, which happened in World Cup when he hit a PK like 90-some miles an hour, then he hit a free kick, and then the Beckham thing happened. And obviously he's incredibly attractive. And through Manchester United's growth in America, he became an absolute champion of soccer in America. So they just gave him like, I think he was making $5 million a day,
Starting point is 00:36:21 maybe for three straight years or something, to come and play for the LA Galaxy. And when he got here, there was some 80-yard balls he was hitting people. He's hitting some free kicks. He definitely did well. Zlatan Ibrahimović came in with a bang. Every time these guys show up in LA, I think Henri even had a pretty good run there
Starting point is 00:36:36 with the Red Bulls. I think every time somebody comes to the MLS, they do have success pretty quickly. So let's assume Matthew's going to do his thing. Pierre Lowe, he crushed when he came over to play for that New York team as well. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:36:48 David Villa. Oh, yeah. David Villa. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Is it time for Polithic to come home then? No.
Starting point is 00:36:57 We have more news for Methy, I guess. Bogus report. Read 35% of it in Miami. This is a negotiating ploy, not something that's been discussed. Messi to Miami has absolutely been on the table.
Starting point is 00:37:07 However, and with a new stadium incoming, it's not as long of a shot as many think. What? Well, I thought it was confirmed. What did Taylor Twelman just say? Twelman's probably mad he's not going to fucking Chelsea. That's just because it seemed like Twelman was leaning Chelsea in the Chelsea-Liverpool FA Cup final
Starting point is 00:37:25 because he thought Chelsea was going to win probably? No, what he said was there was more pressure on Liverpool because they'd already won the cup and Chelsea had been bad all year, so there was no pressure on them to win the game. Well, how'd they get in the FA Cup final? Exactly. That's a stupid sport. That's like winning with no hits.
Starting point is 00:37:41 That's Twelverman. No, Twelverman's probably a good guy. He's taken a lot of shots. I mean, Gumpy, the personal shot there. So we don't know if this is real or not. To get to the bottom of it, joining us now, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup champion, COVID survivor, A.J. Hawk.
Starting point is 00:37:58 A.J. A.J., so is Matthew going to Miami or not? All the reports I have read, and, you know, I am dialed in to that soccer culture. I think Methy is going to be in Miami. He's going to be a part owner, and they're probably going to win it like 10 straight times, 10 straight years to win one of the 15 soccer championships that they have per month. Well, the thing about those soccer championships is there's only a couple that matter. The Concava, I think that's the number one.
Starting point is 00:38:26 No, I'm sorry. The Soccer Lombardi. That's number one. Soccer Lombardi's number one. Concava's number two. MLS Cup's number three. And then I guess Champions League.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Don't forget the Euros. Euros are four and a half. The Euros, the FA one's a lot older than the Euros, so go ahead and drop that one down a little bit. Gonzalo Higuain
Starting point is 00:38:43 is already at Inter Miami as well. Oh, really? He played on Argentina with Messi. So he down a little bit. Gonzalo Higuain is already at Inter-Miami as well. Oh, really? He played on Argentina with Messi. So he's a childhood friend. Yes. They play up top together, and they are a formidable foe. Oh, and Messi's like, yeah, so I'm going to make money off this team,
Starting point is 00:38:55 and I'm going to get to slice and dice people with old childhood friend. Let's go and do this. Can an MLS team, though, Pat? Sorry, can an MLS team go to the Champions League? Can we see them do that? Well, that's what we've been saying this entire time. It's our sport now, so if you want to actually call it the Champions League,
Starting point is 00:39:09 you've got to have a representative from the MLS. Top four from MLS should go. Can you imagine we send a team over there 20-0? No! 20-0 them, you mean? In Miami? Yeah, of course. Remember, same league that we saw Goalie whiff on a pass back to him
Starting point is 00:39:26 numerous days in a row during the entire bubble. The guy had a sitter in a box that took a massive divot. He fell. Yeah. Fell on his face. Now, that was in the middle of COVID, so we don't know what everybody was going through. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yes. The MLS's back tournament did save us. That was all we had. Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah. Remember all the rules? They had to wear a mask to the field, but on the field, they were allowed to dab each other with no mask. And then as soon as they step off, they're allowed to get a quick drink of water and mask back on.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I wonder what the efficiency of all that was when we'll find out like 10, 15 years from now. You know what I mean, AJ? We'll never find out anything. Well, that's funny. Good transition. We're going to learn about aliens on this program tomorrow. Hell yeah. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:40:05 Who's coming on? We got somebody that was in a room where it happened. Wait, he was abducted? No. Actually, we don't know. No. Well, he didn't tell me. He didn't say it this morning either.
Starting point is 00:40:16 He was in the Congress thing where they talked about the UFO things. Wait, did you have him set up before you even watched this? No, no. Actually, I guess he's a fan of the show. He's from Green Bay. ufo things wait did you have him set up before you even watched this or how this happened no no actually i guess he's a fan of the show he's from green bay his people his pr people's comms sorry his comms people uh heard us talking about it i guess they pitched the idea to him he said cool they reach out to us boom we were like yeah definitely want somebody that knows information about aliens on the show then Then we watched the little thing. He, hey, he went.
Starting point is 00:40:48 He's prepared. He asked. I'm squirming a little. There was a couple of one of these. So I'm like, all right, I think we're going to get good shit out of this. I'm excited for this guy. Seems like fastest congressman, the fastest, won the race. He, former Marine.
Starting point is 00:41:02 And he seems to be very well researched in the entire, Hey, me and Foxy definitely saw UAP, uh, flying outside of our plane. I mean, this is, I think it's going to be great. Um, yeah, but did he get any, did anyone in that hole here and get any questions answered? Did anything happen? Let me tell you, and I don't want a doorway thing. What about the Mars doorway situation? Did that come out?
Starting point is 00:41:24 That did come out, but that, I don't believe that was chatted about in the part that we saw and this is i don't watch this ever c-span ever turn it on for this obviously because i'm super interested in all this is it always like that like you know how team meetings are player only meetings in the nfl are always like okay who's the hardest who's the toughest who's the most gangster? You know, who came from the worst play? And that's basically what player, not all of them, but a lot of player meetings turn into that.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Say, anybody else have anything to say? Go ahead and speak your mind. Okay. Guy that nobody wants to hear speak is now speaking, telling entire testimony. Yelling at the team too. Yelling at the whole team. Yeah, where he came from, what he did, what we don't understand and all this. Okay. All right. Thank you. Yelling at the whole team. Yeah, where he came from, what he did, what we don't understand,
Starting point is 00:42:05 and all this and what we need. Okay. All right. Thank you. And then that person is like, all right, player only meeting. That should have been over like two guys ago. Now it's over. Anybody else?
Starting point is 00:42:14 I wasn't going to say it, but it's on my heart. All right. Go up there. This is so accurate. All right. Here we go. And then it's just sitting there. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Like the first three people we wanted to hear from should be talking. Now we're kind of going through this thing, and everybody's trying to up the bar of who's the toughest. It's a classic player-only meeting. It's basically the blueprint of it. I don't know this shit enough. Everybody was trying to sound smarter than the person before them. The way they were phrasing their questions,
Starting point is 00:42:44 there's no way they wanted me to understand what the fuck they were phrasing their questions there's no way they wanted me to understand what the fuck they were saying it seemed like they were speaking in legal ease the entire time word salad and vomit just falling out of every person's mouth as they're asking the question and then the answer guess what oh that's two-way street who's smarter than who well contractually we didn't blah blah blah blah we haven't i mean it was so i couldn't hear anything somebody much smarter than me might have been able to pick up some shit but it sounded like they were speaking in a different language aj i mean that makes sense that's what people tend to do like when they don't want to give answers or they could speak for five minutes at a time without
Starting point is 00:43:15 saying anything like that happens a lot i think when the people are being are given answers like if you're being questioned in a setting like that you want to talk as long as you can without saying anything i think that's always their goal. Oh, yeah, succession. They said the longer you talk, the less time they have to ask their questions and accuse you of stuff. But you can ask cool questions, though. You've got to find a way to jam in your questions
Starting point is 00:43:34 like exactly what you're trying to get across. Yeah, so filibuster is when you just start speaking. They're deflecting a lot. Yeah, there's a lot of we can't confirm, not in our department. It's like, well, you guys ever see everything we thought? They're not in ours. It was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:43:50 So it almost felt like they were defensive. I didn't know this was like a trial of the two people that are in charge. I thought that was a, hey, we're spilling information. But it was clearly we don't know what we're all allowed to say, what we're not allowed to say. I think Big G called them out for it, too. Mike Gallagher? Yeah. Yeah he by the way big g i don't know if that's what we're calling him big g though the guy's coming on the show tomorrow he very respectful by the way the way he asked his question had some word salad in there i didn't understand a lot of
Starting point is 00:44:18 things he was saying but he was referencing a lot of things that we had known about on the internet for a long time that they clearly did not know about like they gave we don't personally know that information or whatever he's like a pretty big situation who would know if you guys don't well we haven't looked into it because nobody of authority has told us to look into it or whatever and he was like well i don't consider myself a person of authority but i would like us to look into it yeah so i'm intrigued to see how it all goes i texted gonzo you know because that's Gonzo's world. I'm like, Gonzo, any one of these fuckers just ask, hey, are there aliens in the United States of America? Like, will anybody ask that?
Starting point is 00:44:51 And I got to laugh a pop out of them. But nobody did. Nobody asked that question. I mean, no matter what they ask in there, I feel like they're not going to get anything. So that's why it'll be fun to have Big G on the show tomorrow. We can ask him these things like, what's it like? How do you sit there and prepare these questions? Like, hey, I have
Starting point is 00:45:06 to find a way to be very concise in the short amount of time I have. I will say, hey, we did not know this guy existed before yesterday. No. He wants to come on the show? Yeah. Love that. Okay, cool. His people want to come on the show? Cool. And then we watch his performance in there. It's like, all right, we got
Starting point is 00:45:22 a guy. Is this our new Gonzo? Is this our new Gonzo? Is this our new Gonzo? We call him. We call him any time we ever have a question about anything to do with politics or lawmaking or anything. Hey, just quick, why is this happening? The amount of times I do that to Gonzo, like, hey, I just read a headline. Why does everybody want you dead right now?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Well, Pat, blah, blah, blah. Okay, I'm going to go back to sports. I'm excited for that tomorrow. Let's dive into some NFL stuff, shall we, AJ? Monday Night Football will be able to flex games during weeks 14 through 18. But it was pointed out that we're not sure in the last week of the season they have a Monday Night Football game. So this might be just 14 through 17. Nonetheless, this is great news for everybody's entertainment value.
Starting point is 00:46:05 through 17. Nonetheless, this is great news for everybody's entertainment value and great news for Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, who were probably looking at what games were being had on Monday night football towards the end of the season with teams that were projected to be good and then end up having a unlucky injury to a star player and their season doesn't go nearly as good as everybody had expected when they were creating the schedule months and months beforehand. The ability to flex Sunday Night Football has used to great success. Sunday Night Football for like 16 years now has been the best game of the week every single week. Everybody's watching it. Football Night in America does its thing. It's the best wrap-up show.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I mean, that is a beautiful thing. And a large part of it is because the ability to flex a game that fucking matters into prime time. Now that ESPN is able to do that that's great news Thursday night we'll never be able to do this but I'm happy that Monday night's able to do it is there any drawbacks and what are your thoughts you think AJ I mean any drawback just goes to those specific teams that either get flexed into that or flexed out like I guess if you're if you're flexed in coaches should like I don't know if you're the owner of a team and GM, I think you absolutely
Starting point is 00:47:05 are excited because, hey, here we go, primetime game Monday night. This means people want to watch us play or they think people want to watch us play. But, you know, the old school coaches, though, want to know their schedule, want to know what day you're playing on. We have our routine and they don't want to, you know, derail that. But I think also COVID helped this, too. Guys had to juggle and figure things out with schedules, Zoom meetings, all of that things, derailed that. But I think also COVID helped this too. Guys had to juggle and figure things out with schedules. Wednesday. Zoom meetings, all of that things, all of that stuff. So I think now they're equipped to handle it, and I think it's great.
Starting point is 00:47:31 People, even players that play in the NFL, they don't want to watch a garbage Monday night game if they're not playing in it. They're like, okay, cool, let's flex it out and see a game I want to see. That's one of the only games, by the way, that players can watch. So like Monday night football, Thursday night football, during the week, the only games that guys really get a chance to watch. And I think you're talking about it because the conversation normally,
Starting point is 00:47:49 like this game is trash. This is a trash game. Who cares about these teams? That happens. And I think that is a large part of Monday Night Football losing its prestige over time. Monday Night Football used to be like a mini Super Bowl every single week. It was an event.
Starting point is 00:48:03 My generation, i'm 38 my generation i still remember like it's the old nostalgia thing we would old pistol would make a fire in our fireplace it was fall my brothers we we'd pack pillows down we get to stay up later and watch monday night football and it was a thing we'd fall asleep by halftime or whatever but it was like that's what i remember as a child like as a kid and i don't know if they have that anymore i don't know if it's like appointment football as much as it once was and And I don't know if it will ever will be because that was back when I think like Madden was doing it and Gruden then got into it, and it was a big to-do, big deal.
Starting point is 00:48:32 But being able to flex games in there with Joe and Troy, I think it will add a little bit more buzz. Now, that is only three weeks. Yeah. Week 18, I looked it up. Since they don't have the Monday night football, obviously week 18, I believe there's two games on Saturday. One of those is Monday night football.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Oh. So technically it's Monday night football, but it's on a Saturday. Correct. So it's Saturday, Monday night football. So I think they'll be able to flex one of those. Oh, that's very nice for them. And that stinks more than the Monday flex, for sure. Saturday, early in the week, stinks much more than a Monday flex.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Somebody getting flexed from Sunday to Monday, I don't think a big deal except for on the back end, but you're getting a Monday night football game, so who cares? From Monday to Sunday, you probably have to know like a week out, two weeks out, doesn't change anything. You're back to regular schedule. I mean, it is. I think the logistics of it, I don't think it's a big problem. I think that's why I've been asking and wondering why this hasn't happened,
Starting point is 00:49:22 and I assume ESPN was doing the same thing. asking and wondering why this hasn't happened and i assume espn was doing the same thing like hey why why do we get stuck with games that are ass late in the season when we could clearly just take this game though schedule for one o'clock was going to be regional this divisional game now all of a sudden means like one playoff spot or no playoff spots coming out of that that is huge and i think to go back to talking about how it was an event, that helps. That helps massively. Now, granted, the coverage of Monday Night Football and the way it's kind of been handled over, what, the last five years, six years,
Starting point is 00:49:53 has been obviously a part of it, a part of the conversation. But if you have great football games, nothing else matters. You have great football games, nothing else matters. Everybody will pay attention. Yeah, now that Joe and Troy are the people who are going to be calling the game, it feels like it might go back to that appointment television. Now Monday Night Football is a playoff game
Starting point is 00:50:12 too, right? That first wild card weekend, they actually get one on the Monday. How do we feel about that? Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, primetime playoff games? Well, that's why I thought maybe the Week 18 game would still be on Monday because I can just pick one of the teams that might play the week after still
Starting point is 00:50:28 on a Monday. I like them moving into Saturday late in the season. A lot. That super wildcard weekend. So good. Goods by too fast every year. I agree. We got to remember let's remind ourselves to embrace those moments a little
Starting point is 00:50:44 bit more. To wake up on that Saturday Where we got NFL all day God damn right And then on Sunday where we got NFL all day And now what We got Monday night Last week Or last year was what Cardinals Rams was the Monday night
Starting point is 00:51:01 Playoff game Let's enjoy it Let's enjoy it Remember Let's enjoy it. Here we go. Let's enjoy that. Remember, we had these conversations to ourselves whenever the world stopped. Yeah. And we kind of got past that, didn't we?
Starting point is 00:51:13 We would start judging. This game stinks. This game stinks. So remember, there was a time when there was no games, AJ. And that time is right fucking now. I think we judged games pretty quickly when we were so excited to see what was the baseball that came on first. Korean baseball. The Dinos were a fucking wagon.
Starting point is 00:51:30 They had what? One game? People gave it about one game, I think. Three. Yeah, gave it a weekend set. Yeah, we tried our best because it was taking over all of television. It was. They were bumping shows.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah, they were bumping. To show the KBL. Yeah. In the morning, too, you wake up, get a chance to watch the Dinos smashing baseballs, a little celebratory mascot dance in the background, a bunch of cardboard cutouts on the other side of Earth. Well, it started with the thing before the cardboard cutouts, too. They had sex dolls in there for a while.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Oh, yeah, and then America Television was like, we understand you guys are okay with all that, but we can't just have 20,000 dildos staring at us while we're watching. Sorry. Sorry about dinos. Okay? Put the dino dicks away if you want to air on ESPN. They didn't really have 20,000 sex dolls there.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Yes, they did. I don't know about 20,000. At least five, though. Yeah, we were all right behind home plate. Yeah. Mouths wide open. Yeah. Was it on purpose to be a joke?
Starting point is 00:52:19 Or were they trolling people? Or was this like, hey, we need bodies? Well, I think it was a combination of all those. Yeah. A combination of all those yeah combination the headquarters of like sex bots was in korea at the time and they just threw them all in there because they had a big marketing plan big sponsor yeah big sponsor did they let people like did they open the gates eventually masked obviously and let people sprint in and try to firemen's carry two sex dolls on their shoulders out of the place, you remember that doll you've been staring down behind a home plate?
Starting point is 00:52:46 One time only. You get in here early, it'll be like a big sale Friday. Yeah, big sale Friday. I'll go get that spray paint blonde. She's been eyeing me behind a dino's home plate this whole fucking COVID. I'm going to do terrible things to that. Get in there, get stolen right in front of you. No! Sex dolls, what a right in front of you. No! Sex dollars.
Starting point is 00:53:08 What a scene. That's all kind of changing with the Oculus situation, I guess. They were fined $100 million. By who? I'm guessing the league. Are they going to pay it? Korean baseball doesn't fuck around with $100 million. It didn't say dollars.
Starting point is 00:53:24 It just says team fined $100 million. I don't say dollars. It says team find $100 million. I don't know what the exchange rate is for their cash for us. $100 million won. So how many is that? What's the exchange rate? I'll be honest. I don't know. I'm on a bucket up here.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I'll tell you what. The exchange rate will get you. You go into Canada with Canada beating America, you get less money. And then on the way out, America's beating Canada. You get less money. So then on the way out, America's beating Canada, you get less money. So you lose going into Canada. It's $78,000. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:50 All right. Zito, you started a good convo. Yeah. Started a good convo, Zito. I thought they said they won the game. That was the currency. That's on me. Is it spelled W-O-N?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Yes, yes. 100 million won. I read a South Korea team find 100 million won for using sex dolls as fans. It sounded like they won the lawsuit. At first glance, I didn't see that. All right, let's move on. That's a very serious subject to tap into after the sex doll conversation. Hey, those Saturday games, though, for the NFL,
Starting point is 00:54:27 we also need to look forward to Christmas Eve Saturday football now, too, because last year was Christmas Day. Christmas on Sunday. Yeah, now we've got the Christmas Eve games, and we'll have a full slate on Christmas. How pissed off is the NBA about that? Oh, gosh. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:54:41 That's huge. That's big-time money that they're going to be losing. Are they still playing on Christmas Day? It's like they're saying they're just not going to do it. Oh't imagine. That's huge. That's big-time money that they're going to be losing. Are they still playing on Christmas Day? It's like they're saying they're just not going to do it. Oh, yeah. Really, forever, it was Thanksgiving is football, and then the NBA gets Christmas. And now they just don't get Christmas this year.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And New Year's Eve is football. New Year's Day, college football. That's what it always was. So how many times – this has obviously had to have happened. I don't know the ins and outs of the calendar but sunday has been christmas numerous times right recent history how how do we know how often that is is that one every seven no how did the years how does that work how when was the last time the nfl said hey nba fuck you for christmas i don't know because what is With the leap year, it skips a day sometimes? So maybe six years ago? So then you go and say you got January, Scott, 30 days, 31 days, and February is down here to 28, then March, and then April, May, June, July.
Starting point is 00:55:36 That never worked for me. Christmas on a Sunday was in 94. Okay. Fucking 2005. Since 71. 2011, 2016, 2022, and next time it's 2033. 16. So it's happened.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Six years ago. The NBA Christmas thing feels like the 16 one's really the only one that's been affected because that's become the big. You said 1970 what? They've been doing. NBA on Christmas? NFL on Christmas. It was the first time. What?
Starting point is 00:56:09 I thought the season was over by then, back in the day. No, Cowboys and Vikings played on Christmas Day in 1971. Oh, okay. Okay. All right, so you're saying that's the first time they played on Christmas, the NFL? Yeah. Okay, got it. How long has the NBA been playing on Christmas?
Starting point is 00:56:23 I will find that out, but I got news that we didn't know about. Go on. Okay, so Sunday's Christmas. Remember how they were announcing Christmas Day games? We were like, well, it's fucking Sunday. We're all going to play on Sunday. No, there's 11 games on Saturday. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:36 So they're giving the NBA Sunday? Well, no, they have the Packers, Dolphins, Broncos, Rams, Bucs, Cardinals are all going to be on Sunday. Oh, so just one, four, eight? Yeah, just two or eight. So the NBA's still not thrilled. No. The NBA needs to have a 9 a.m. or 10 a.m. or in there. Saturday's going to be focused.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Sweet. Christmas Eve. Oh, my God. All the fake happiness you've got to be in. Those teams, too. Like the Packers and the Dolphins are playing. Like the Bucs and the Heat too, like the Packers and the Dolphins are playing. The Bucs and the Heat are two of the best
Starting point is 00:57:07 teams in the NBA that would maybe be playing on Christmas. People are definitely going to watch the NFL over and over again. One million percent? No doubt. Because they do put all their best players. Kobe used to play on Christmas Day. Yes. LeBron. Kobe, LeBron, Christmas Day. That's what I remember. Joker the past three years because he's been the MVP. Well, now that they have
Starting point is 00:57:23 Denver, the Broncos are on that day. Yeah, they're not getting the MVP. That's tough. Oh, no. Poor NBA. Dead. Obviously, Cincinnati Bengals stud now in the area. Founder of Pro Football Focus in the voice of Sunday Night,
Starting point is 00:57:40 the award-winning Sunday Night Football, ladies and gentlemen, Chris Collinsworth. Yeah! Chris! We finally did it. Yes, we did! Let's go. Let's go, Chris.
Starting point is 00:57:51 You're on the show. We did it. Yeah! Let's go. Hey, I'm excited and thankful you're here, man. You're an absolute boss. And we tried to celebrate you earlier, but obviously it froze up. In the Drew Brees announcement of everything he's got going on,
Starting point is 00:58:04 it was kind of murmured in there that you signed an extension with Sunday Night Football. I feel like we stay on top of this stuff as much as possible. Was that known? And if not, have we not? You deserve a big congratulations, and you deserve it, man. Is that the case? I put everybody associated with me under the threat of death.
Starting point is 00:58:22 If they leak out anything that i'm associated with we just kind of fly under the radar screen you know what i mean you just want to everything's good everything's been good at nbc for a long time i've got the peacock flying behind me here we've got pff over here in the corner you can check out all that there you go hey you're a mr high tech baby hey you're a conglomerate. You're a mogul. I think the fact that not only that you're so good in the booth, and congrats on the extension, well-deserved.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Well-deserved. We all appreciate your voice and the way you call games, but the founding of Pro Football Focus has really been a game-changer. I mean, honestly, the way agents talk about players, the way players talk about players. Now, people get offended because how could you know certain coverages, what somebody's job is? There's obviously downfalls to everything. How did you know that PFF was something you wanted to do?
Starting point is 00:59:13 And is it something that you needed as a commentator? Like, well, I think everybody probably needs this. Do those kind of go hand in hand together? One of these days, you'll have to come over here. You two guys will have to come over here and I'll do the full demonstration for you. There is almost no way to prepare for a football game anymore, whether you're a team, whether you're a broadcaster,
Starting point is 00:59:35 whatever you are without having the use of BFF. Honestly, I don't know how anybody does it. I know, you know, Tom Brady is going to be a brand ambassador and I don't know what that is, but I sure would like to be that for $37 million. But even brand ambassadors, they're going to need the tools, right? And all of this is attached. I've got like over 1,000 people that work for us. a thousand people that work for us and so if you want to see Devante Adams back shoulder throws in the fourth quarter with less than two minutes to go out of a spread formation it's like Google you can look up anything you freaking want to look up and the whole thing and so everybody gets caught
Starting point is 01:00:17 up in the grades and every once in a while some 300 pound dude will come over to me when I'm watching practice you know and I'm like oh oh, hell, what was his grade? You don't know if he's happy about it. You don't know if the guy's going to choke you out. You don't know what's going to happen here. But, yeah, it's been fantastic. It really has. The kids are unbelievable who do the work.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Chris, can you talk a little bit about your prep? You mentioned that. I remember watching maybe a Real Sports or Showtime special where they were showing your prep while you're i remember watching maybe a a real sports or showtime special where they were showing your prep while you're watching film with a headset on like dictating your thoughts or just and then does that go to the audio go to your producers and director and everybody and how does that all play out throughout the week you're on it man yeah i've got so so what i do is every week so usually these guys will call me right when Peyton Manning was thinking about going into broadcasting they go all right tell me tell me what I don't know about this and I said
Starting point is 01:01:12 you know well Peyton here's the deal and of course he cracked the code better than everybody's in his living room he's got four guests he's like a genius but I said you know, like, like, so you every week would spend every moment of your time getting ready for, you know, the defense of the other team. And that's great. That's exactly what you should be doing. I said, for me, I spend one day getting ready for that defense. I spend one day getting ready for your offense. I spend another day getting ready for that defense and another day getting ready for that offense. And then you have special teams and then you have coaches that you've never heard of before that you've got to have phone calls with and you go back and forth and I go I go I know everybody who comes out and
Starting point is 01:01:54 thinks they're going to go into broadcasting things they're going on vacation they're going to get paid 37 million dollars which some of them do which is is great. But, you know, from the standpoint of the preparation, there's so much to note. Think about it. I mean, I'm going to go in in week nine and do a game. Let's say we were on a flex into a Jets game. The Jets have had this turnaround season. They're fantastic.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Their fan base has watched every minute of every single game they have. They know the entire history of that team. They know everything about it. If I can just get to what a New York City cab driver knows about the Jets, I'm in pretty good shape. Now I've got to get even elevated above that because, I mean, if you say something stupid on a pregame show, and I did a lot of that. I said a lot of stupid stuff on pregame shows and nobody really cares at the end of the day the number one question that I get from everybody in every single city including Cincinnati I just had a lady today came up to me in the airport and she said
Starting point is 01:02:59 why do you hate Joe Burrow oh yes I go what are you talking about what do you mean I hate Joe Burrow what do you know she goes I heard in the super bowl like you were you criticized him one time i'm like oh heaven forbid i criticized the guy who made one bad throw in the super bowl he's only like god here in this town but that's all i hear like why do you hate whatever in the super bowl that was being played in indianapolis the home sweet home for you. We were sitting there, and I'm walking out of a restaurant. This is the night before the game. The Patriots are playing the Giants, and there's a table full of Giants fans. They've got their hats on, so I know exactly what they are.
Starting point is 01:03:37 So I go walking by the table, and I've heard this a million times, literally from every fan base. And this guy turns around and goes, hey, Collinswood. So now I already know what it is. If they say, hey, Chris, then it might be, hey, we really like your pod. But no. Hey, Collinswood. So tell us, why do you hate the Giants?
Starting point is 01:03:57 Apparently, I launch into this thing. And I go, I don't hate them. I just have to critique. That's my job. I do da, da, da, da, da, da, da. And so why do you hate the Giants? And so I walked by, and just this one time in my entire life, it's the only time I ever did it.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Right here. I walked by, and I said, I don't know. I just hate them. No! We fucking knew it! And I was like, you idiot. I go, this is going to be on the front page of the New York Times proof that Collinsworth hates the Giants but I didn't care it was like the only time in my entire life I'm like I'm free I'm free I finally did one Pat McAfee moment no I was thinking about no and let it go baby it was good now you have a lot more pressure And you talked about the pregame show and what we do
Starting point is 01:04:45 on a daily basis. But the eyes that the NFL brings and the eyes that Sunday Night Football bring with the ability to flex games and have important games every single week in the production, you guys are like the standard, I think, for a lot of different places. You've been a part
Starting point is 01:05:01 of that now for how long? Have you been the guy for Sunday Night Football? 13 years and we've had 11 straight years as the number one show on television. Let's go! Hey, let's go! Let's put that in perspective a little bit because prior to this, the number one
Starting point is 01:05:18 show streak of longest number one running show was six years. And I don't even know which one it was, all in the family or something. But that was the record. And we're up to 11 and no sports show had ever been the number one show, even for one year,
Starting point is 01:05:35 not even for one year ever in the history of television. And it's been 11 straight years. So it's a big credit to NBC, Al Michaels, Fred Goodell, Drew Esikoff, a lot of people, Dick Ebersole, who came up with the idea to move it all to Sunday, to the NFL for giving us flex scheduling, for giving us the best games and the top teams. Because when I grew up, Monday night football was it.
Starting point is 01:06:01 That's what we're talking about. That was it. When you were frozen, right before you were frozen, we were talking about that, about how Monday night football was like that's what we're talking about hey when you were frozen right when you were frozen right before you were frozen we were talking about that about how monday night football was like a mini super bowl every single week it was an event aj said he used to go outside with pistol his dad and they had bonfire to stay up late they watch monday night football and sunday night football has become that with people it's an event the recap football night in america the entire coverage is just like it's it's routine it's becoming institutional hey this is just what you do there's shake up now with al gone
Starting point is 01:06:31 obviously tariko moving up there maria taylor now host of uh football night in america are you guys already on conversations about i mean you and tarika have worked together before but it seems like this mbc team is a well-run machine. You got some moving parts. Drew Brees is gone. How's it feel over there? And you guys are already getting to work on next season. We just came out of meetings yesterday. That's the reason I was in New York city. I had the pleasure of going through LaGuardia airport. It's the, it's the most physical I've been in a, in any situation since I left the national football league, getting through the lines there, but I did bust through. Hey, were you getting
Starting point is 01:07:06 bullied? Were you getting bullied? Oh, dude, you think you know wrestling. You should have been so proud of me. I look like Brian Tillman from the Cincinnati Bengals, who I was the manager for in the biggest wrestling event ever held in Cincinnati.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Wrestling's the greatest, right? The greatest. Wrestling's the greatest, right? The greatest. It's the greatest. It's the greatest. So from the time we were all kids, like wrestling was the greatest. So we came out of this thing. And so this guy named,
Starting point is 01:07:37 who was a special teams guy, Flying Brian Pillman. This dude would launch himself off the top rope and do back... But he played special teams on our team. So he asked me to be his manager one time. And I was like, I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 01:07:53 This sounds a little dicey. Come on, come on, come on. It'd be great. You'd love it. So we go back and we go back in the locker room. And all these guys are sitting in the back. There's like one locker room. It's not like, you know, MMA. They're all in the same locker room. They're smoking a cigarette.
Starting point is 01:08:08 They're all having a drink. They're doing whatever it is that they do. They're all buddy, buddy. They're playing cards. They're doing different things. And then you go out into the arena. And then the guy that you were just playing cards with over there comes flying at you. And you can think whatever you want about wrestling,
Starting point is 01:08:29 but when you've been involved in the game of football as long as we have, and that dude has that look on his face, and he's coming at you, it's a different deal. And they start throwing each other around. I don't know how those guys do this i don't know how 52 weeks a year they get up off the deck and do it again and do it again and do it i mean it was it was such a fun experience i'm so glad i did it you actually wrestled though right yeah did it yeah i'm undefeated awesome yeah insanity yeah it was awesome i undefeated. Was it awesome? Yeah, insanity. Yeah, it was awesome. Undefeated in sanctioned matches in WrestleMania.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Like, were you legitimately nervous doing it? Like, legitimately nervous compared to playing in a game or whatever. So, Chris, such a different feeling, right? For punting, it's like, if I fuck up, I'm ruining a lot of people's lives here. The defense, everybody on defense, I'm setting up their life for misery there. I'm not going to feel a position. Defense coordinator, guess what? He's not happy.
Starting point is 01:09:29 His wife, she's probably pissed as well that this is happening. You know, like that's the thought whenever you're punting or have that type of position. It's like, all right, everybody is doing a thing here. This is my role. I'm going to go and do it. Very similar when it comes to the wrestling program. Like, hey, everybody has their job. This is my role. I'm going to go and do it. Very similar when it comes to the wrestling program. Like, hey, everybody has their job.
Starting point is 01:09:49 So it was similar to the football feeling. But, man, I had so much fun. I mean, I had – there was not a lot of nerves at all. It was like – You were just in your element. You were loving it. Yeah, I thought so. I thought, like, hey, this is what I was probably born to do, you know, like as I was kind of going.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I mean, Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders come out. Seven Nation Army is banging. There's like a hundred thousand people screaming along how you walk out there you see it's like impossible not to like get chills or whatever you know like I was like holy shit there was a big holy shit moment but then it was like oh this is maybe the coolest thing I've ever been a part of so then it's like that type of feeling you know you keep it moving let's get back to you though you fucking i want to ask one other question come on chris it's about you no no aj seriously like did you ever think that the biggest kick-ass guy in the league post football life would be the punter of the decade this is pff's punter of the decade we know i am not lying to you And he had one of the biggest hits
Starting point is 01:10:47 In the history of Sunday Night Football Am I lying? And you were the soundtrack of it by the way Made it sound amazing Let's go Chris You got it Let's get back to you AJ don't answer that question
Starting point is 01:10:58 Chris enough with your questions I'm back to you AJ do whatever you want You played linebacker for 100 years No no AJ don't You're in Ohio. Mute him. Mute him. He's going to be a professional golfer too, Chris. We'll tell you about that later.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Oh, no. He and Lamar. Lamar's probably much closer than I am no matter what people are saying about those photos. You're wrestling through LaGuardia after the NBC meetings. Let's get back to that. The NBC meetings, what was it?
Starting point is 01:11:26 You and Tirico just know each other so well. Shouldn't be an issue at all? Or what are you looking forward to this season? Anything new? Or is it just kind of same great show that it's been all these years? You know what? I only had one thing to say, right, in this meeting. I said, I'm only going to say one thing. And this is it. I said, Al Michaels, Michelle Tapoya, Fred Gadelli, because Drew Esikoff, our director, is going to stay with us, are all like the greatest.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Right. The record speaks for themselves. What they did was unbelievable. This incredible stretch of success on television. It was fantastic. I said, the only way that we're going to truly screw this up is if we try to do what they did i go we can't do that we can't be al michaels we can't be fred goodell we can't be michelle tapoya we have to take this group of people and do whatever it is that we do
Starting point is 01:12:21 i don't know what that's going to be and when people get hired to be a broadcaster or when a new head football coach comes in, I always say that same thing. I'm like, players know BS, right? I mean, how many times have you had a coach come up in front of you guys and just like, hey, you know, and you know, it's not them. guys and just like, Hey, you know, like, and you know, it's not them, you know, you know, it's like they're trying to be doing impersonation of like, everybody used to do a John Madden impersonation when they were in broadcasting, everybody would do, you know, what a Tom Landry impersonation back in the day, whatever the case may be like, dude, you've been practicing your whole life to be you. I go, let's just be us.
Starting point is 01:13:06 That's it. Whatever we are, if it sucks, if we all get fired, I don't care. But if we're going to win or we're going to lose, let's do what we do. And let's do it great. And it'll be great. It will be great. Hey, that's good leadership, Chris. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:20 That's great leadership there. Authenticity is a real thing. It always works in the end. It's always there. ahead AJ Chris when you first got in the league can you compare what it was like then to I guess what the league would be like now you mentioned earlier like oh guys smoking cigs and all that we hear all these stories I know I had coaches that said like it was the wild wild west they'd walk in like guys are doing whatever they wanted was it like that when you got in the league? Yeah, pretty much.
Starting point is 01:13:46 And I'm just going to take it from what I actually know, but play in the wide receiver position. I played quarterback all the way up to my sophomore year in college, and then I went over for 11 and two picks in the spring game. So, solid work, solid work there. Yeah, but, I mean mean like when i watch the game right now if you couldn't hit me in the head in the chin or any of those spots like when you went over the middle it back in the day you knew you were getting stitches in your chin and I had so many sets of stitches in my chin over the course of my career until like my second year in the NFL
Starting point is 01:14:35 and my cousin who played fullback at Eastern Kentucky said to me he goes how big a dumbass are you and I go what what are you talking goes, you know, they have padded chin straps. You do not have to have your chin look like that. I'd never even thought about it. But you think about the difference. If all you can do is hit me in the butt. So think of the human body like an animal, right? So the protective shell is on the back, right? Think about it. People can take a baseball bat to anywhere on your back. You've got ribs back there. You've got protection. It doesn't really get hurt to get hit in the butt or the back of the thighs or your calves or anything else. As opposed to what really hurts is getting hit anywhere in the front.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Get hit in the face, get hit, get the wind knocked out of you. You can break your sternum. You can get a thigh bruise. Certainly the crotch shot is no good. You're hitting the shin, the knee. It's all bad, right? And the only thing built to protect you in front are your eyeballs. So you're supposed to be able to protect yourself with your eyes.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Well, if you play wide receiver, that's out. Cause you got to look at the, at the ball, right? You don't have time to figure out what and protect yourself out there. So if you couldn't hit me in the head in, in as a receiver, like I would like to play with that. I would like to play with these guys have today. I would like to play with the i would like to play with these guys have today i would like to play with the football all softened up because you know what they used to play with they used to take those things right out of the package they were slimy they were grimy they were now they're
Starting point is 01:16:17 spending a month like hosing these things down and scrubbing them i would like to play with the modern football the modern gloves and have nobody hit play with the modern football, the modern gloves, and have nobody hit me in the face. Those are the things I'd like to try one more time. Well, we're excited that we get a chance to hear you call football where people can get, you know, no hits to the face or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:16:35 You continue to get better, I think, on air. And I am so incredibly thankful that you were able to stop by. Obviously, it got cut short. Our fault, not yours. Obviously, you got the peacock behind you and PFF. So we assume this is our fault. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:16:49 Could be anything. Wish we were able to have more time. Can you please come back soon so we can continue this conversation? Absolutely. Now, I've got a few more stories I need to hear out of you guys. But, you know, it's a give and take thing, right? I mean, at some point I'm going to give, give but you got to give it up a little bit too listen it would be you know one day hopefully i'll be able to go on your podcast you know that'd be really cool to one day get to go but when you
Starting point is 01:17:14 come on nobody needs to hear about me when you come on this show so don't ask me any questions about me okay please we need to talk about you more what you have done with mbc what you have done for the nfl is notable in your business entrepreneurialism with PFF I mean you are a fucking guy that we all look up to so please come back again we can't wait to hear you uh on Sundays and I hope you can be yourself alongside everybody else and hopefully it'll be great which we assume it will be you guys are fantastic man thanks for the time you golfing right now you good tan, though. You got a pretty good tan. You know, as you get a little older, you don't have to work quite as hard as you are working right now. I know you're going to take the Amazon job and up $30 million, and you're going to have this thing. It's okay, man.
Starting point is 01:17:59 It's okay. If you make more money than Tom Brady, it elevates the floor for all of us bottom dwellers. I think it is fantastic that the rumor is $45 million. That's what I heard for you today, Amazon. I don't know if it's true. I just deal in what I hear, and it's up to you to confirm it. But since, in fact, you don't want to talk about yourself, you can't answer that question. All right.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Collinsworth. Hey, you're. Hey, Chris. Hey, you're the best, Chris. Oh, you're the best. All right, Chris. All right. Yeah. Thank you, Chris.
Starting point is 01:18:33 You're the best, man. That dude's a legend. Joining us now is a man whose tickets for his tour will go on sale this Friday at BillBurr.com forward slash tour. Bill Burr, slight return. He'll be in cities like Tulsa, Philadelphia, Chicago, all across the country. And he's going to be the first comedian to ever play fucking Fenway.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Hell yeah. New Netflix special June 6th. Ladies and gentlemen, one of the greatest comedians to ever be birthed into our earth, Bill Burr. Yeah, Bill! Let's go, Bill. Hey, how are you? That's a hell of an intro.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Hey, you deserve it. Every single piece of it because that brain of yours is so goddamn magical. Bill, how are you doing, man? How's life? Well, I'm all right. You know, I'm here, I'm working, I'm editing a film right now. So this is a welcomed break. I'm here. I'm working. I'm editing a film right now. This is a welcomed break. You're super hands-on. Efforts for Family, obviously. You made that, created that. You're editing a fucking film right in the middle of the process
Starting point is 01:19:34 of on premiere. What is it? Premier? What are you editors? Final Cut. Right now you're in the middle of doing that? Is it a movie you're in? Do we know the name of this movie and when's it coming out? Yeah, I am in it. I wrote it with the buddy of mine ben tishler and uh directed the thing and all of that stuff stepped into that somehow so my summer is living with this thing but it's been a lot of fun man it's fucking wild it's really uh am i not supposed to curse in this show no no let it be let me hear it wait wait Oh, wait, wait, you said fucking Fenway.
Starting point is 01:20:05 That's right. See, I set the tone there trying to let you know. You know what I mean, early. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's been a lot of fun. Old Dads, I believe, is the name of the movie. Can't wait to watch that. You're going on tour in September.
Starting point is 01:20:17 So all summer with this movie directing and editing and cutting. Then you're going on tour. You're doing Fenway. When do you have time for all this? Are you just always creating shit? When do you do the set you're going to do in're doing fenway when do you have time for all this are you just always creating shit when do you do the like the set you're gonna do in fenway by the way hey hey here we go like when do you put that set together when are you able to work on that while doing all your other shit uh the weekends no it's a little it's yeah i am a little straight out right now i just it was weird.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Like the pandemic, there was nothing going on. And then all of this other stuff, everything just landed at the same time. So I think that that's why. But I think I'm not going to do anything next year. Smart. Famous last words. Smart. Hey, how do you know what to do, what not to do?
Starting point is 01:21:03 Like to find that balance between yeah you're like a legit actor now director everything else and then your stand-up is unbelievable how do you find that balance i haven't that's why i take it a year off right yeah i haven't i gotta figure out how to like uh i don't even want to get into it it's just like every year i'm like why the fuck am i working right up until Christmas? Every year I say, fucking give me two weeks off before Christmas. And I don't know. I got to learn.
Starting point is 01:21:33 You know, it just gets away from me every year. Every year it just gets away from me. And then I just go, what the fuck? How did I get all this shit? I don't know. I don't know. It's something I'm working on. And I haven't figured it out.
Starting point is 01:21:46 And this is going to be another year where I'm doing too much shit. I just got a text. Do you want to do this phone or this week? You do. I'm saying no. Yeah. This is new, Bill Burr.
Starting point is 01:21:58 That's right. Yeah. I saw your guns on this podcast and now I feel strong. Yeah. Fucking Bill Burr taking a stand for his life. Hell yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:08 I bet you do more shit next year than he did this year. And that's the way it's going to be until you retire, pal. You're a goat now at this point. So everything's going to be on the table for you. Whenever you think about doing Fenway and doing this tour, what is, you know, because the, obviously the Chris Rock, Will Smith shit is huge in the comedy world. Then you follow that up with Chappelle. Nah, that's over.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Chappelle, though. That's not over. Then Chappelle. Nobody's talking about it. What about Chappelle? Dale, man, that's old bread. You're going to lose a filling on that. Both of those?
Starting point is 01:22:37 Chappelle and Chris Rock? Well, I mean, they, you know, Will Smith went to India with some publicist to take pictures in front of the Taj Mahal so he's all healed I love that you have to go all the way to India to not know that you don't get up in the middle of an award show and slap somebody it wasn't until I went to the Taj Mahal where I finally understood. No, then they got that other kid just seemed like, you know, he had some mental issues. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:13 I don't want to. First of all, that's been happening to comedians my entire career. Okay. Yeah. Everybody has at some point in your career, somebody's going to come up on stage. Well, I was going to talk about that because it felt like the Chris Rockwell Smith thing was an opportunity for a lot of comedians to chat about how like, hey, this isn't okay
Starting point is 01:23:32 because we're just trying to make people laugh. And I assume you guys have to deal with more people getting offended by your shit and saying things. And then it openly being Oh, listen to those comedians who comment on this shit right after. Okay. They're trying to get friends. Okay. They're trying to get friends. They're trying to act like they're affected by what the fuck happened.
Starting point is 01:23:50 They're just jumping on a fucking. I mean, I shouldn't say all of them, but generally speaking, it's just like. It's like. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I obviously didn't like what was going to happen, but I was going to jump on and add fuel to the fire. You don't want to encourage other lunatics to do that, which is why I don't understand why we're still talking. Okay, I'll stop.
Starting point is 01:24:09 I'll stop. Day-old bread. And then here we are 10 minutes later. You got a cavity on this fucking bread, dude. You fucking broke a tooth on it. You had a good joke, too. Taj Mahal, the whole thing. I'll hook you up.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Yeah, you had the whole thing. But I thought, the same as you, I thought there was a lot of grandstanding, like, hey, here's our moment to be able to come together and say we're being attacked. But then the Chappelle thing happened, and it was like, okay, so maybe they were on to something. You said every comedian has experienced somebody rushing the stage. Obviously, the Philadelphia set with you.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Right, maybe not everybody, but everybody. I mean, I had a woman come up on stage one time, chased me around the stage at Dangerfields. I just picked the mic, stand up, and I was like, lady, lady, you can't do this, one time, chase me around the stage at Dangerfields. I just picked the mic, stand up. And I was like, lady, lady, you can't do this. And I was just backing around the stage. And just like the Oscars, nobody did anything. All part of the bit or they just wanted to watch it all kind of burn down because that Philadelphia set.
Starting point is 01:24:59 I mean, is that the greatest comedy you've ever done in your entire life? Whenever you just told Philadelphia to go fuck themselves for what? Seven minutes you had to count down or however long it was. Is that the rowdiest crowd you've ever been in front of? The largest rowdy crowd, but not the rowdiest. No, there's been others. I mean, yeah, there's been others where you think like, yeah, something bad is really going to happen here. That was just, you know, they were just having fun with me.
Starting point is 01:25:27 That's the thing. You know, they were just having fun, whatever. I had fun back with them and whatnot. So I don't know what to tell you, Pat. You know, I don't know. I just don't know when stand up became like, I feel like you're going on like Meet the Press now. Like, what do you think about the security parameters at the local chuckle hut? It's like, I don't fuck, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:57 I have no idea. Well, I think there has been quite an interesting thing because, and I think the last time you were on here, we chatted about this. an interesting thing because and i think the last time you're on here we chatted about this you and chapelle and i honestly believe this outside looking in and i think you said oh the deep state made us do it or whatever but it felt like there was a time where stand-up comedians weren't able to say shit there for a little bit and i know you're gonna say that's not real but there's a lot of comedians that felt that and there was a lot of things that happened then whenever you came out with uh white tiger i believe, and then he had Sticks and Stones or whatever. It was Paper Tiger, Paper Tiger.
Starting point is 01:26:29 I think it was White Lion. Paper Tiger, Paper Tiger. It was Black and White. But it feels like you two came out and were like, you guys emptied the chamber. Can we call it White Tiger? That might sound better. It was great. It was unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:26:42 I watched it. You did it in England. But it felt like you two came out and were still able and willing to say whatever. Do you take on this on that? And do you think it is still something that's happening where comedians aren't allowed to talk about it? I just know that I'm going to name my next special White Tiger. I love that. I like how aggressive and effeminate it is all at the same time.
Starting point is 01:27:02 That's fucking amazing. It's good balance. White Tiger. Meow. I have some bounce. White Tiger. Meow. I have some new jokes, honey. You would be the White Tiger if we were to pick one, by the way, an incredible one. But Paper Tiger, did you feel that or no?
Starting point is 01:27:14 Is that not a real thing that just comedians are making up? And do you feel like you can go on stage and joke about anything because it is an attempt at humor, even though some people get very angry about some of the shit nowadays. I have not changed the way I do stand-up, if that's what you're asking. I just go up and I do it, and you know what?
Starting point is 01:27:32 And people appreciate doing that. I don't understand. I don't know. I don't even pay attention to it. To the point I don't even have an opinion on it. It's just people what are they going to talk about?
Starting point is 01:27:50 Pharmaceutical companies coming up with synthetic heroin and killing hundreds of thousands of their fellow countrymen and not going to jail? Or are they going to get all bent out of shape because somebody said something at a funny bump? What's going to affect their money less?
Starting point is 01:28:07 That's all that is. That's all that is. You do have an opinion on it though. I mean you just said like a couple seconds ago you don't even have an opinion about it because you can't change it but you do have one. That was a very we'll be right back here on TMZ. That's amazing. Are you working comedy right now like during the weekends are you doing that right now are you in i want to know when you're getting back together with your boy band when are you
Starting point is 01:28:32 finally gonna looks like you've been hitting the gym oh oh oh when are you going back out there you go hey i lost my voice i've been smoking too many vitamins but i still got the dance moves i can keep up with the boys if i have to well it's got to be great now that you're out of football that you can do a cycle and not have to worry about getting on the podcast, right? Listen, I am drug tested, okay? I am not currently on a cycle, but that guy on the other side of the screen over there,
Starting point is 01:28:59 we are firm believers that he is eating Tremble and sandwiches over there, Bill Burr. That guy every single morning. I love people that take steroids. Go on. Because they're using their body to figure it out so it's safe. I mean, you had all the way back, Lyle Alzada was like going down the street wrestling yaks when he was taking it,
Starting point is 01:29:22 rest his soul. And now it's like a cream and i figured by the time you podcast guys are done with roids i'll be able to have an eight pack when i'm 80 that'd be fantastic well i'm happy we could do those tests for you did are you baseball legal like weed they should just start legalizing everything bill baseball whenever everybody was eating steroids those balls were flying out of parks best time in the history of the mlb do you agree are you a baseball fan i think money wise it was a great but i i always when uh all people talk about is offense i don't think you're a real a. Like my problem, like I'm enjoying the NBA,
Starting point is 01:30:06 but like that whole little fucking half circle they put under the net where even the defensive guy has to get out of the way. You can only stand there for 2.8 seconds, then get out of the way. And then some guy's got a clear lane to go down and dunk the ball. And then he does a fucking Schwarzenegger pose down afterwards into the camera. It's like guys used to have to dunk on people. That whole thing, you know, fucking...
Starting point is 01:30:31 What did I do here? I just got rid of me? Anytime I touch my phone to make it do something, it won't do anything, but then I barely look at it, it does. This guy's editing a movie right now. You got a lot going on. Don't worry about it. The phone's fucking up, not you. That's alright. Well, I'm glad you a movie right now. You got a lot going on. Don't worry about it. The phone's fucking up. Not you.
Starting point is 01:30:45 That's all right. Well, I'm glad you guys wanted me to call in. I miss talking to you guys. You guys are one of my favorite podcasts out there. Well, you know, we know you're very busy. Who is this again? Shut up. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 01:30:57 TMZ, dude. TMZ, Bill. Yes. You said you like defense. AJ and a lot of the people in the NFL, that's how they feel like the game has changed, away from defense. Hey, when you first started talking to women, did you have to be spinning a football or were you thinking about your hands and you couldn't get a number?
Starting point is 01:31:14 No, I'm a bit fidgety. I'm a fidgety person. Hey, man, I saw you standing here in the cafeteria. What's going on? How you doing? How you doing? I don't know if you know this. I play sports.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Got a tank top on. It's not a good thing. I can show you around the locker room. You're an idiot. Bill, you still playing the drums? I know you're big into that. just because I've been busy, but yeah, I have been. And the other night, I did a room that had incredible sound, and my drum teacher and I, we rented some. I said, why don't we just do a drum lesson in the fucking arena?
Starting point is 01:31:56 So we got two Vista Light, well, one Vista Light and one stainless steel kit, and we just had them facing each other and just jammed for like an hour. It was fucking amazing. It really was amazing. Really was amazing. What arena? The Forum. Okay. You got a drum lesson in the Forum?
Starting point is 01:32:12 Just you and your drum? I mean, fucking A, Bill! Look at you! Look at this guy! People don't understand when you do those places, you rented the place. That's your Chuck E. Cheese for the day. Whatever you want. If you're going to get your money's worth i might as well get there you know a couple hours early
Starting point is 01:32:31 it's not going to affect the price so yeah i had a good time uh the arena tour here arena and amphitheater tour uh bill burr slight return coming up on friday arena is anything different it feels like and it's going to sound like, obviously, an ignoramus, but obviously wearing a tank top and play football. The arena shows, different than theater shows? No. Because it feels like Rogan's what? Rogan's doing arenas right now with Chappelle.
Starting point is 01:32:57 I think Segura had an arena. I think Kevin Hart has done an arena and a stadium. Is there anything different to that that you have to think about for the show? Is that any, or are you just out there, hey, you're going to fucking laugh or not? There has to be full thought in that, isn't there? Well, other than imposter syndrome, before you go out there. I do not
Starting point is 01:33:16 deserve this, is what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah, there's definitely elements. A lot of it's mental, though. A lot of it's mental. But if you do it in the round and if you're in the middle, it's oddly intimate. People aren't as far away and you can actually – did I lose you guys?
Starting point is 01:33:40 For some reason, I can't see you anymore. No, they just went full screen on you to get your beautiful head. The white tiger was talking about. The white tiger. Stand up in an arena and it being intimate. So we just wanted that good white tiger shot there. But it's around. You got in the middle.
Starting point is 01:33:55 You got a round stage for this. Yeah, occasionally I'll do one like in the round. And I did the forum like that. I did MSG that way. And those are, you know, that's the most fun way i think probably do it but even if you if they put this the stage at one end it's it's it's still the same thing you got to make sure you know you're just listening to them you're adjusting the whole time you're up there um yeah but it's it's a different sound than theater i would say it's different they're all a little
Starting point is 01:34:26 bit different but at the end of the day you're kind of doing the same thing that's like you know playing football your whole career it was always a hundred yards right yeah but you're still playing football it's whether you got nervous about the size of the place you were playing in i guess the field doesn't change the field doesn't change. The field doesn't change. Yeah, I understand completely that. Because some stadiums actually, as somebody that kicks balls, some stadiums in the field look smaller, some look bigger. Same exact yardage, though.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Get it out of your head. Don't be so fucking soft. You know, a lot of that happens. What was your favorite place to kick? I enjoyed Houston a lot because the fans were absurd. I mean, they were just so loud and insane. I enjoyed that a lot. I enjoyed that place a lot because the fans were absurd. I mean, they were just so loud and insane. I enjoyed that a lot. I enjoyed that place a lot.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Was there one where you just felt comfortable? Like, which one did you do the best in? Oh, I have no fucking idea. We should go get Chris Collinsworth on Pro Football Focus. He'll be able to tell us all that information. I have no idea. I was just trying to get out of the game without being blamed for the loss. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:35:24 Like, hey, here we go. Let's have a good time. Let's just keep it moving here. But there's some stadiums that feel better. I would assume, like, for you as you go around and do this whole thing, is there some crowds that are different than other crowds? Is everybody loud? And has that changed the way you are if there's a more docile crowd out there?
Starting point is 01:35:41 Did you ever miss a field goal to lose a game? Yes, oh, yes, oh, yes. What is that like walking in? Nobody gives a shit about what it's like to stand up in an arena. What is it like to fucking walk into that locker room? Not this again. Well, I'll tell you what. There was my junior college, Bill, alright?
Starting point is 01:35:57 Maybe this can be on White Tiger. I know how painful this story is because now you're leaning and like hands on the desk. I got 27 death threats after this game, Bill. It was a bad day. It was a bad time. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:36:11 But going into the locker room, though. Half of them were real. No, it was all on Facebook. It was all real. Not like Twitter, 20% fucking fake. We're learning that right now while Elon's doing his thing with Twitter. But no, yeah, it was terrible. But the teammates, the losing of the game
Starting point is 01:36:25 is obviously incredibly difficult. But if you're the reason for the loss, man, you feel terrible in there. I've never felt smaller. I mean, I actually am smaller than everybody in there, but you feel like a little punk bitch, Bill. Do they say anything to you? Or do they just let you sit in silence
Starting point is 01:36:39 with what you just did to them? So that's interesting, because I mean, I did do it to them. I guess that is a good way to look at it. They never framed it that way, which is cool. You know, good friends. Some people wouldn't talk to them. So that's interesting. Cause I mean, I did do it to them. I guess that is a good way to look at it. They'd ever framed it that way, which is cool. You know, good friends.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Some people wouldn't talk. I mean, they did work all week. I did too. Some would say, well, some would say I did as well, but a hundred percent less work than everybody else.
Starting point is 01:36:57 I agree completely. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No, but it's a real thing though. Like, um,
Starting point is 01:37:01 some people wouldn't talk. Other people would come give me fake, you know, like, yeah, it's all right. Not a hundred percent. You're fine. It's like, well, though. Like, some people wouldn't talk. Other people would come give me fake, you know, like, it's all right, not 100% your fault. It's like, well, it kind of is, actually. I mean, if we're looking back on it, it is. So it's that team feel. Do you have that? Now, we can transition this into stand-up comedy.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Do you have good shows, bad shows? Do you have a team around you that, like, talk about it? Do you ever recap shows, watch them back, listen to them back? Do you have any film study or anything like that? I probably should, but I don't. No, it's worked out thus far. Don't do it. It's worked out great.
Starting point is 01:37:31 No, I used to do it. I kind of just shake it off. If it went bad, I just... Recently, where the hell did I go? And I just... It just didn't go well at all. I don't know. I'm so fucking busy, I can't remember. It wasn't a road gig it was uh i popped in on a show and um yeah it just it just wasn't it wasn't what what you get booed out
Starting point is 01:37:54 why you do stand up did you get booed out or was it quiet was it uncomfortable what was it what was it was i was exhausted and i wasn't in a good mood and then i went up there and they were young and full of life and i just came in as this curmudgeon and i was trying out new shit it's just you know it was just it was all there it was the perfect storm and it was just kind of like one of those things where you're just like oh you know whatever and then just kind of like one of those things where you're just like, you know, whatever. And then just kind of afterwards, like, what was with that guy? Everybody was, like, having fun, and then he showed up. It was one of those deals. I forget.
Starting point is 01:38:31 I popped in somewhere. I can't remember. But, Bill, isn't that, like, the ingredients you need sometimes for some of your most special sets and some things that go amazing, I guess, for people that are fans of you, though? Like, I would imagine a pissed off Bill Burr. No, ideally, you want it to work. Isn't it great to miss a field goal?
Starting point is 01:38:51 All right. Get back to the comedy. Have it hit me upright. All right. Yep. Doesn't that help your other field goals? White Tiger, back to the stage, please. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Please. Miserable Bill is awesome, though, for us. Hey, do you have a reoccurring field goal kicker nightmare to this day, or have you been able to let it all go? No, it's that one. It's that one we just talked about. That's literally still thinking about it. We'd love West Virginia to win a national championship at some point
Starting point is 01:39:18 in the very near future. We need to fucking continue to trust the climb, but we need to win so I can get that off my fucking heart, too. You know what I mean? That'd be great, Bill, if that was the case. Yeah. Still think about it to this day. Do you ever think of starting a support group with other retired field goal kickers? Funny you say that. You guys can sit around and just talk about it. Funny you say that. Anytime a college kid misses like on a primetime game or something and they
Starting point is 01:39:43 get buried on the internet. These are 18, 19 year old kids. I'll send them a DMetime game or something, and they get buried on the internet. These are 18, 19-year-old kids. I'll send them a DM. I'll say, hey, life stinks right now. Okay, it's going to suck. You're going to think about this a long, long time, but this is going to harden you. You know, this is going to callous you.
Starting point is 01:39:56 This is going to make you into somebody that's going to go on to do special things, Bill. You know, I get them. By the end of the message, Bill, I get them going. That's what I try to do. You turn into the white tiger. Bill, good luck with everything. You know what? You've got a good heart that you do that. That's good.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Well, I just know how miserable it is. You know what I mean? Do you mentor a lot of the standup comedians? They ask you questions or not? Yeah. I mean, I, if, if I'm around younger comedians i always if i see somebody funny i always take make sure i take the time to say that i i thought that they were funny because guys did that for me and i remember you know like i you you give somebody like juice battery powered juice doing that for like six months i remember dave chappelle which is hilarious because i'm older than him, but he was always like
Starting point is 01:40:45 showbiz older than me. I remember him a long time ago saying something complimentary when I had nothing going on. And I lived off of that for fucking four years. I would be having bad shows and I would think,
Starting point is 01:40:59 Dave Chappelle said I'm funny. Dave Chappelle thinks I'm funny. Fuck these people. So yeah, I definitely try to do that. I think that that's an important part in any business of getting older is you don't resent younger people. You welcome them in and you try
Starting point is 01:41:15 to help them out and you don't view them as your replacement or the worst. Try and compete with them by still wearing tank tops and gold chains and shit on your podcast, you know, I was about to say, you've got a good heart.
Starting point is 01:41:33 And then bang right at the end. Look at that. Maybe, maybe I'm not as, I'm not as involved as you. And I felt I was getting too tender. Maybe I got scared. Oh,
Starting point is 01:41:41 this is a youth. Maybe the white tiger got a little scared. Hey, the white tiger's not scared of anything, man. The white tiger's not scared of nothing. From now on, when I do your show, I want to be known as, we're bringing on the white tiger. That's fucked up. Paper Tiger was great, by the way. It was. It was one of the greatest specials of all
Starting point is 01:41:58 time. That's 100% on me. Hey, I loved you when you played for the Colts. Thank you. Thank you. That's very nice of you. I pronounced it wrong. It was a joke about how you loved my special. You couldn't remember the fucking name of it. Well, I didn't hear the mispronunciation. Oh, my God. Am I bombing again?
Starting point is 01:42:12 Yes. This is not you. This is not you. This is us. You might be tired. I turned into the off-white kitten. The boys have some questions for you, if that's all right, Bill. No, I only talk to the star of the show.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Sorry, fellas. All right. Well, only talked to the star of the show sorry fellas all right well good luck with the rest of the editing of the movie thank you i appreciate that tickets go on sale friday right billbird.com forward slash tour i don't have it in my heart to be that mean let's hear it from the board you got a good heart you got a good heart look at this Bill, I know you mentioned everything kind of being the same, but when you go play Fenway. Did you introduce yourself first? Is this how you enter into a conversation?
Starting point is 01:42:51 Jesus fucking Christ. Well, he said my name. Are you fucking listening or not? Geez. Oh, did he? No, I didn't. My tiger was sleeping. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:43:00 No, but will playing Fenway, will that feel any different? I mean, with your connection to it and then obviously being the first comedian, is that any different than any of your other shows? Yeah, absolutely it's going to be. I will try to take a moment or two to enjoy it, but I'm going to have to basically block it out while it's happening so I can give them a good show. But afterwards, when everybody leaves and I'm sitting on that stage smoking a cigar,
Starting point is 01:43:28 that's when I'm going to take it in. Absolutely. How about a drum lesson up there maybe? Huh? How about maybe a drum lesson? It's not going to sound as good as the forum because you're outside. Yeah, but you're playing drums at the Fenway, you know. Maybe a little pickup baseball game.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Yeah. You're playing baseball out there? Maybe with the boys, take BP out there? Can you suggest another activity and act it out slightly again? Well, in my head, I'm running. Drumming. You did the pitching thing. Cornhole.
Starting point is 01:43:53 You playing cornhole? You playing a little cornhole? Playing a little cornhole out there? That's how my brain operates, you know? Like, I'm in my head. I'm like, oh. I was thinking I was going to throw a javelin. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Okay. This is like you had a cross, you know? At Fenway, yeah. Maybe Twitter bio. Once threw a javelin. Yeah. Okay. This is like you had a cross, you know? At Fenway, yeah. Maybe Twitter bio. Once threw a javelin at Fenway Park. Will you change each set for the city? Like, will you do Boston stuff in Fenway to lead off? Like, how much time do you have for that?
Starting point is 01:44:15 Like, in every city do you do that? Or is it mostly, hey, they're paying for me to give them my best shit? No, I obviously do my best shit. But I kind of go out not really knowing what i'm going to say in the beginning i like to kind of go out my head's blank and just kind of go out and start screwing around and um yeah and then it kind of gets me going and then i then i at some point drop into doing my act you know i think most comedians you almost try to avoid your act for as long as you can because you're just having fun riffing. And then you kind of use your act as like, all right, that riff ended.
Starting point is 01:44:55 Now I need to go with something that I know works. You go to that. Somebody yells something out, makes you say something else. And then you're once again, you know, free, doing whatever you want to do, and then you go back to your act, you know? Yeah, kind of a game you're playing with the crowd almost. Anybody that, when people yell out, you hate that or love that?
Starting point is 01:45:15 You have to hate it, right? I love that it's a part of comedy. I love, and I find, I think it's one of the things that makes stand-up amazing is the interaction. I like the live experience. I like the people, like, you know, yell out. I say a lot of stupid things.
Starting point is 01:45:31 I say a lot of things almost deliberately to annoy people. Like, and at some point, people can't, you know, hold it in anymore, and they have to yell out. And I have fun with that, especially now, because I used to do that young comic thing. What'd you say? that especially now because i used to do that young comic thing what'd you say go fuck yourself i used to do that but now it's more fun to like listen to them and just be like oh you know i never really looked at it that way and then you start interviewing them about their life and stuff and it becomes like you know, something that doesn't always have to be hostile. Look at you, Bill.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Huh? Caring, empathetic, learning. There wasn't one ounce of sincerity in any of what you just did. No, the white tiger! That's kind of his thing, though. No, AJ, that is not my thing.
Starting point is 01:46:21 You're like, look at you! Wow! That clap right there You're like, look at you Wow Really? The way you would clap That clap right there That is a fuck, that's not an ounce of sincerity The way you're holding your hand Yeah, Bill, we don't know each other that well
Starting point is 01:46:35 But it feels like you're learning me pretty quick It feels like you're learning me That is ball breaking No, no, no Sincerity, honestly though, that is a big deal because I've seen other comedians handle it much different. You realize you just started that when you said sincerity and then you said honestly.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Both the same. How many more subliminal hints are you going to try to give me that you're not bullshitting me? Well, I'm trying to get myself into it. Sincerity. Honesty. Integrity. I'm giving myself that, too. Thanks for coming on the podcast, Bill. No, no, no. Don't send yourself out of here. Connor, go ahead. Yeah, Bill. Connor.
Starting point is 01:47:08 Connor. Yeah, Connor. Connor. Conroe Connor. How are you? Perfect. Mollet. Also a Boston sports fan. Sorry, my eyes are going. Yeah, don't worry. What do you think about the Celtics tonight? Are you watching at all? Do you give a shit at all or what do we think? Yeah, I give a shit.
Starting point is 01:47:24 What do I think? I think I haven't watched enough basketball to go on a sports podcast and given an intelligent opinion, but I will say this. Find this clip. Game seven, right at the end of the game, when they sat the Greek freak,
Starting point is 01:47:43 who, by the way, if you watch seven games, watching that guy, I mean, he's one of the most incredible athletes I've ever seen. So the Boston crowd is giving him a respectful, you know, ovation when he goes to the scene. And then one guy in the crowd, the most unathletic human being you could possibly see, and he was just going like this. And it was just one of those things where it's just like in a oh no no oh no
Starting point is 01:48:22 oh you're back hey you froze up in the middle of that you gave a great sports take though, though. Sports podcast, great sports take right there. Hey, look at you. Hey! Look at this guy. Sports podcaster. Look at this. Look at you, Bill. Is that all right? Yeah, it was incredible.
Starting point is 01:48:32 You judged the game. You said Giannis, incredibly impressive to watch, which we all agree on. His first step is as fast as any point guard out there, it seems. He just, guy was fucking unstoppable. What about football football you keep up with football at all mac jones you think he's gonna be a guy i remember you sang us a little christmas uh song about the colts fans gonna cry oh yeah yeah yeah i think well i mean you know this is uh you know it's a copycat league there pat you know it's a uh it's a now time i mean
Starting point is 01:49:01 they gotta give these kids a chance to grow so i mean I mean, he's been one year in the NFL, and I thought for a rookie season he did great. So, you know, I mean, Josh Allen I don't think was lighting the league on fire his first year, and now look at the guy. I love that guy. Yeah, he's very good. Who's your favorite player in the NFL, Josh? Well, you were until you retired.
Starting point is 01:49:21 All right, that's fucking bullshit. There is no sincerity in that comment right there. I'm sick of it, White Tiger. You hear me? Jesus. All right. Get back to work. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:49:32 My favorite play in the NFL right now. I don't know. You know, as far as just certain people that I like watching play, I like the offseason. I'm going to forget everybody's name. Who's the guy, the quarterback of the Chargers? Josh. Justin Herbert.
Starting point is 01:49:51 Justin Herbert. Josh. Justin Herbert. I like him. And then there's just teams that I like. Like I'd like to see the Browns do something. I like Baker Mayfield. I think the guy's a frigging winner.
Starting point is 01:50:03 And it's like he led the Browns to a playoff, and they got a victory. And there's still people trashing the guy. It's like to do that in Cleveland. Cleveland is where, like, quarterbacks went to die. One of the worst things to be over the last 30 years was a number one draft pick quarterback because you were going to Cleveland. Bill, Bill, I don't want to break any bad news to you, but Baker Mayfield's time is over in Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:50:26 He's out of there. Oh, do they trade him? No. Well, it's a whole scene. I would really like you to actually invest in it and maybe get your thoughts on it. He has to be traded. They say, nah, we don't care.
Starting point is 01:50:38 We're not trading you. They then go sign Deshaun Watson to $230 million guaranteed. Quarterback from the Texans that obviously has a lot going on off the field that is very serious. And there's another trial, I think, happening here in like a month or so. Baker's still on team. Deshaun Watson's starter. But we don't know if he's going to get suspended in a amount of games or not. Baker still wants to be traded.
Starting point is 01:50:59 They don't know what's going on. So I don't want to be the one that breaks the bad news, but that whole scene is really something in Cleveland. But to your point. Now me tell me with all of that yeah if you had to guess one franchise in the league that that would be going down i mean there's nothing shocking about that story exactly exactly same old browns but they might win and that's why you're an incredible sports podcaster bill look how you tied that thing together wow that's why every time you come on podcaster, Bill. Look at how you tied that thing together. That's why
Starting point is 01:51:25 every time you come on here, we get excited, elated, happy you could take a break from editing. Can't wait to see your tour. Can't wait to see your new special on June 6th. And thank you and come back. Hey, come back anytime, Bill. Hey, Bill, come back anytime. Oh, that fucking passive-aggressive clap. I'm going to be thinking about that tonight
Starting point is 01:51:41 when I'm sleeping. He didn't enjoy me. He crashed the white tiger the second I opened it. All right, guys. Thanks so much, man. I'll see you. We appreciate you. Good luck with the tour.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Good luck with the special, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, wait a second. Wait a second. I got to give you one here. Okay. Oh, fuck off. All right. See you.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Hey, Bill, thanks for coming on, Bill. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Burr. Always a pleasure. No, the pleasure's all ours. Thanks for coming. Hey, Bill, thanks for coming on, Bill. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Burke. Always a pleasure. No, the pleasure's all ours. Always a pleasure. No, it's ours. You're such an open spirit. You're honest, integrity.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Thank you. And all sincerity. You too, honestly, sincerely. No, no, no, no, but you. Genuinely, I feel that way about you, though. You're brave. You're a hero. Courageous.
Starting point is 01:52:25 You're a warrior. Justageous. You're a warrior. Just like you. It's awesome. You know what I realize? I'm not going to win this. You're more full of shit than I am. All right, I'll tell you. Bill Burr.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Yeah! You know, because I'm looking at the Colts as well, AJ. I'm looking at the Colts, and I'm like, how have we not, like, how have we not, like how are we not in Jarvis Landry's sweepstakes when he's only $3 million with $3 million in incentives? We have no veteran wide receiver on the roster currently. We've had issues in the past with not enough weapons.
Starting point is 01:52:56 I'd assume this is exactly how Packers fans feel as well. Late in the season, injuries are going to happen. If they happen in skilled positions, you can be completely devastated by a team that can stop your run and you don't have anybody that can get open or anything like that. I mean, it's just, that's a real thing that happens when football matters at the end of the season. And if you look at the teams that have won the Super Bowl, they have had a plethora and added more weapons throughout the season if they could, because they know you've got to be deep in a couple different positions. But the overwhelming consensus, it sounds like,
Starting point is 01:53:26 from the teams that are operating in that fashion is wide receivers have been better at a younger age than ever before. How do we know if we don't have the next Devontae or the next CeeDee Lamb or the next whoever is going to be a young stud? I think that is how they're really viewing it, and I think they can save money by doing so. And then it's just kind of, I guess you're hoping that you get a proven player is going to be a young stud. I think that is how they're really viewing it, and I think they can save money by doing so. And then it's just kind of, I guess you're hoping that you get a proven player as opposed to just getting a proven player.
Starting point is 01:53:51 And I guess we just kind of got to ride the wave of them making that decision. Yeah, you have to hope that this kid that you pick up, their potential, they probably draft him because they know, hey, this guy's ceiling is super high. We hope we can develop him into a superstar. But then once he becomes that superstar, then that team has to make the decision. Do we pay this dude gigantic? What's that? They're not because it just came together in my head.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Because if you get a superstar wide receiver, that means a quarterback is really fucking good. They're going to pay the quarterback every single time. So then that wide receiver is going to have to go elsewhere. You can pay them both, though. They tried to pay Devontae and Aaron. Yeah, they said they would have been able to, right? That's what they said they would have been able to, but all reports from all these contract gurus and people
Starting point is 01:54:29 former of management positions are like, not going to be able to pay both quarterback and a wide receiver. Not going to be able to do it on the same offense. That's why you're seeing rookie quarterback contracts picking up the high-end wide receiver market or whatever, but Carr's paid. Devontae's paid.
Starting point is 01:54:45 Carr said he tried to basically rework his contract, though, so it would work, but like Mahomes and Tyreek Hill, they couldn't get that done. But they got Kelsey. They're paying him. I guess you can't really have, like, the number one highest-paid quarterback and the number one highest-paid receiver at the same time. That probably makes it a little more difficult.
Starting point is 01:55:01 But to become the number one wide receiver, you're going to have to have a stud quarterback. So it's almost like always, if it works out as well as you hope it is, not going to be there long term. Yeah. You know, that's crazy to think about. But, like, if you hit on this guy, and he is the next wide receiver around the NFL
Starting point is 01:55:18 and you're not paying him as much, your quarterback's going to reap the benefit of it as well. You're going to pay the quarterback. You're not going to pay – that's a very interesting thing that literally hit me as you were speaking there so i apologize for interrupting which happens all the time i apologize it's kind of how i operate and that's with sincerity and genuineness but actually that is going to be the trend that's what's going to happen so who then pay like okay the teams that sign these big time guys they either have a quarterback on a rookie contract
Starting point is 01:55:45 or they have a guy that's middle of the road payment-wise? Yes, and willing to take less is what it sounds like. So we just figure out the NFL. How many of you can do that? No big deal. The Packers thing was like they offered a different amount of guaranteed money. Yeah, years. I think the first two years or three years as opposed to a five-year or whatever.
Starting point is 01:56:03 I guess the only one now, aside from Mahomes and Tyreek Hill, is Josh Allen and Stephon Diggs because Stephon Diggs just got that massive extension. Yeah, so Bean was able to make it work, and they got money all over that roster. Yeah. So everybody else is just bullshit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:16 What the fuck? Why is everybody bullshit? Why is Bean able to do it and everybody else isn't able to do it? I don't understand how that happens. Different set of rules, different situations. What's going on? Well, it isn't part of that because Josh Allen got a big deal, but he didn't get...
Starting point is 01:56:27 His next deal is going to be what some of the quarterbacks that have... If he, for whatever reason, would have signed this pass-off season, he's getting $60 or $70 million more. What did he sign for? It was like $140,000, wasn't it? Six years, I think. He was right below Aaron, I believe,
Starting point is 01:56:43 in guarantee. I could be wrong, though, but those are the only two on the offense who are really getting paid. Yeah, because they just drafted a running back. They let go a couple of linemen, then signed a couple of linemen to like one-year deals. Beasley's gone. Probably can't have a big-time left tackle on your team,
Starting point is 01:57:00 but you're paying however many million a year either at the same time. Yeah, but you're going to try to keep a left tackle with a quarterback if that works. Yeah, but you're not going to million a year either at the same time. Yeah, but you're going to try to keep a left tackle with the quarterback. Yeah, but you're not going to have a dude that's top three and pay for tackles in the league. Packers, man. Trends are going to be in. Yeah, Bocciari got paid. Well, there's an article written.
Starting point is 01:57:17 Hey, how's he feel? He comes back. Everybody can do it. What are we doing, though? Everyone can work it out. You can figure anything out, I guess. Exactly. I'm not happy about it at all.
Starting point is 01:57:24 I'm not happy about any of this. You've got to kick the can down the road. You've got to pay someday. Well, we haven't seen anyone have to pay yet. The can figure anything out, I guess. Exactly. I'm not happy about it at all. I'm not happy about any of this. You've got to kick the can down the road. You've got to pay someday. Well, we haven't seen anyone have to pay yet. The Saints had to pay, remember? Now they've got Jarvis Landry, Tyron Matthews, fucking James Winston. Yeah, right. Maybe Drew Brees back.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Whoa. His friend that he coaches alongside T-Ball said, he brought up football one time to me. He did talk about CrossFit and pushing sleds. Wait, who's the friend? The source. Yeah. The source, Peter King.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Close friend. First base coach. Peter King coaches with him? No, Peter King had a source that is a friend of Drew Brees. He quoted and said, he never mentioned football once to me, so I went on a full thought. Yeah, one friend of Brees told me Sunday, he hasn't mentioned playing to him in his offseason once.
Starting point is 01:58:05 And his left shoulder surgery on May 2nd at age 43, after not playing football for 16 months, seems to make a return to football problematic at best. Another person who knows Breeze, okay, this guy, mowed his lawn, told me Sunday night, he's not playing football. No way. So now we automatically have to go like, well, who's the fucking friend that feels like he is the authority on Drew Brees? You know, how connected is that friend? Is he a baseball coach with him?
Starting point is 01:58:32 How much does he hang out with him in the offseason? Do they, you know, work out together? Do they get some, you know, protein shakes together? Brackle ball. Do they play pickleball together? How close is the friend that says, well, he hasn't mentioned it once to me. This guy's acting like him and drew talk every single day and i'm sure drew's pumped that that guy that he talks every single day he's like hey pete i'm fucking done tell me anything
Starting point is 01:58:52 else you need to know like that's that's why this show stinks though because that we heard this quote and that's exactly how we covered it aj you know well how are why are drew breeze's friends speaking with peter king and i'm not a bad thing but how does, why are Drew Brees's friends speaking with Peter King? And I'm not a bad thing, but how does that connection even get made? That's exactly my question. And if we're just going to go anonymous, you know,
Starting point is 01:59:14 a guy that knows, I mean, that security guard across the street that works at that building. He knows me. Yeah. Pretty well. I talk to him every single day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:21 I go, Hey, how you doing? Hope life is good. You know, we've given him like we, I've had new, what if that person was asked what our plans are? He just gives a story.
Starting point is 01:59:28 He has no idea. What is that even, you know what I mean? Like, what is, I'm sick of the anonymous shit about stuff that isn't serious. Like, I understand there's a world where anonymity to sources needs to happen for the safety of people and to get things right and everything like that I do. But in sports, the anonymity shit is rampant. And it's hard not to be like, well, who the fuck could that be? Who is that?
Starting point is 01:59:52 And in Drew Brees, I wonder if he did the same thing. Like, this son of a bitch is talking to Peter King about my future. PTA meeting, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Possible. Someone who works at Smoothie King. Yeah, or Jimmy John's. One of his franchises.
Starting point is 02:00:05 Yeah. Guinness World Record, I think he has a couple of those. He probably knows a couple of adjudic King. Yeah, or Jimmy John's. One of his franchises. Yeah. Guinness World Record, I think he has a couple of those. He probably knows a couple of adjudicators. Yeah. What if it's his son? What if it's his kid?
Starting point is 02:00:13 Yeah. Sourcing to Peter King already. Hey, give me a little on the slot when I turn 18. I'll give you fucking everything Drew's got going on.
Starting point is 02:00:21 He didn't talk to me once about playing football. He was talking about baseball and jumping on a trampoline in the backyard. So I don't know what you're thinking. He does have a sweet backyard. Sweet backyard.
Starting point is 02:00:31 Every time he posts about it, I'm like, God damn, that's a nice setup, whatever he's got going. I don't know why you'd want to leave that. But now he wants to call games. I guess he wants to be gone for four days a week. Get me out of here. Hey, that schedule of doing games, Collinsworth was talking about it. It is not. The games are a lot of here. Hey, that schedule of doing games, Collinsworth is talking about it. It is not. The games are a lot
Starting point is 02:00:47 of travel. A lot of on the road time during a football season. Yeah, the fact that when they have to get there like two days before the game, they call and all that. It's different, but also at the same time, these guys get giant money to do. Yeah, you are prepping all week, but yeah, it's still
Starting point is 02:01:04 a great gig. Yeah. Sundays are free, right? That's what they say. Mm-hmm. I think that's what the old – Those cool cliches. Yeah, Sundays are free. They pay me for work week. They pay me Monday through Saturday.
Starting point is 02:01:13 Yeah, Sundays are free. General Bob Carpenter said that at least once, right? Sure. Normally it was like, I don't know, D-line coach somewhere says it like he is Nostradamus. That's the greatest football player. Some young D-lineman is so impressed. Thanks, Coach Shinzu. That was fucking unbelievable.
Starting point is 02:01:34 I can't believe I got past the well. I know. Devastating. Hold on. Still too current, though. Don't talk about too much. To me, learning about it, you're 100% right, dude. You're 100% right.
Starting point is 02:01:44 I just fucking learned it. I mean, what do you want? That was a tough day. A lot of people live and die, by the way. Yeah, that's right. Old buddy operates. He just died 2,000 years before Jesus Christ popped out in that farm. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:59 Still moves the needle. Hell yeah. Gone too soon. Still moves the needle. What a fucking... There was a lot of dust that just popped off. You know, we kind of mailed it in on the place since Thunderdome's around the corner. That's probably smoke, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 02:02:15 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Smoke and elation trapped in there. Yeah, probably from the other day. Let's just open to a page and let's get better today. Yes. Love this day. His name's Sun Tzu, by the way, not Shin Tzu.
Starting point is 02:02:29 Yeah, but Shin, I think, is in the family still. It is, yeah. Cousin. Sun Tzu said, The control of a large force is the same principle as the control of a few men. It is merely a question of dividing up their numbers. Thank you, Sun Tzu. Holy shit.
Starting point is 02:02:48 You've got to do one little reading every day now. I will. That's what the Daily Stoic's for, too. How you did that, though, your tone and your delivery is exactly what Bill Burr was talking about. What? It was so problematic. Your tone and your delivery.
Starting point is 02:03:03 He's the best. We love this. They're your delivery. He's the best. Oh, we love this. Oh, they're the best. Like, everybody's the best. No, no, no. Sun Tzu fucking deserves sincerity. Yeah. I don't want you to get emotional. I know you've learned of his death. Well, that was a rough day.
Starting point is 02:03:14 You've fucking seen it. We've seen it live. We've seen a lot of this live, by the way. Yeah. A lot of my life has been live, by the way. I'm realizing that as I'm kind of going back through stuff. I'm like, God damn, what I look like on this day after this happened? It's like, oh, well, 275 clearly.
Starting point is 02:03:28 And I seem to be pretty happy. All right, let's do that. Like, my life is almost documented at this point, as are all of ours. But now that WWE SmackDown is happening on Friday, that's two hours a night. And then maybe the pay-per-view, it's two hours on Sunday. And then the Instagram stories on the weekend. It's like, okay,
Starting point is 02:03:46 so I'm just kind of, my entire life is tracked. That's great. And I'm, by the way, I think I'm super genuine a lot. Yeah. Super genuine.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Every day. Not every day. There's some days where I'm not as genuine but I want to be nice to people because they're probably good people. I just think they're garbage but you got to do
Starting point is 02:04:02 what you got to do, AJ. What does that mean? No, just when we're talking about stuff that's happening you know like there's enough people are enough negative there's enough negative shit being said about people all over the place like i don't need to feed into that you know what i mean so i don't want to continue that i think it's pretty negative but some some conversations are more difficult for me than others to be like positive about said person in the story if that makes sense oh i get it i understand yeah you don't have to spread negativity or anything but you also have to be authentic and real yeah yeah well i choose to be the authentic and real uh positive on most situations but there's some shit where it's like all right we're moving through this subject quick
Starting point is 02:04:38 because this person stinks can you give me an example no i mean what that true breeze one it's an anonymous source. It's about fucking nothing, but it's still... Yeah, we kind of just buried Peter King there, I guess. But Peter King has sources. I genuinely appreciate Peter King's brain and knowledge and sources because he's able to get shit that none of us, nobody else is. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:05:02 Like, I actually had a meeting with Matt Rule. I was supposed to get lunch with Matt rule whenever they were in town for joint practices it got canceled because matt rule had to go meet with peter king so like he like is a he he's knows everybody like he is big swing been around forever yeah powerful guy powerful guy so whenever he's speaking i'm interested in it but in this particular case like i mean that was a fucking nothing this was an absolute nothing or it was something very very very very well and to what we were just talking about he did say he was talking to like either a gm or an assistant gm about how like wide receivers are probably gonna turn into
Starting point is 02:05:35 like running backs where instead of paying them you just draft another guy and just let someone else do that how many words is that football morning in America? Oh, 2,000 plus. Yeah, didn't you need to submit one like five or six weeks in advance and it had to be a full 4,000 words? Do you remember that, AJ? Oh, yeah. I was like kind of excited to showcase my brain, you know, like kind of excited to piece together. Because I write a lot, like I write a lot in my notes section,
Starting point is 02:06:02 so I don't do a lot of like I can't, I don't know how to, laptop. I'm terrible on a laptop. You know, not as bad as these folks. Like, I write a lot in my notes section. So I don't do a lot of, like, I can't. I don't know how to. Laptop. I'm terrible on a laptop. You know, not as bad as these folks. Oh, no. Geez. Absolutely. But I do a lot of writing.
Starting point is 02:06:12 So I was excited to kind of show my penmanship almost in this thing as I was asked to be a guest writer for Football Morning in America. So he's like, what do you want to talk? It was like three months away or something like that. Four months away. What are you going to talk about? I'm like, probably the ever-evolving sports media maybe. I have no idea.
Starting point is 02:06:28 Four months from now, I have no clue. Okay, sounds good. Appreciate it. It went well. It went well. It went well. And then like 90 days beforehand or like 45, I forget how many, 45 days beforehand maybe, can you submit that to the editors like next week
Starting point is 02:06:41 or whatever, and then we're going to go through it, and then we'll do this whole thing. I'm like, there's no chance. There's no chance i'm gonna be able to do that it's supposed to be 45 days from now i am so sorry he's like i'm gonna have to pick somebody else then it's like all right well see you later that's okay it would have been cool to be able to do that but you know it's just you know he's peter fucking king for a reason anybody else i'm like as soon as you ask that question like hey you don't fucking have a clue what you're doing but peter king yeah he does sold like three block the guy is legend in the nfl game so it's just like yeah it's
Starting point is 02:07:08 fucking peter king he knows everybody and does everything and i believe it ended up being dr myron roll yeah much better served so like it ended up working out for everybody much better i think he has a book right now he does yeah i've seen him uh he was on uh he was on pivot he's been making his rounds a little bit. I've been seeing him pop up on Twitter in interviews. I saw Kyrie was on I Am Athlete with Shady and Pac-Man. Yeah. That's going to be a good listen.
Starting point is 02:07:34 Very good. It was awesome. Yeah. I'll check that out. I haven't got a chance to see it. I just saw a clip. That should be very, very good. Him talking about his time in Cleveland with LeBron was very cool.
Starting point is 02:07:42 Yeah, reminiscing, right? A lot of I wish I would have type stuff. Now that he's matured and evolved. Absolutely. That one clip made me like him a little bit more. It was a good clip. What's your problem? What's that? You don't like Kyrie Irving? Did he hate his guts or what? What's this guy's problem? Why do you hate him?
Starting point is 02:07:58 Why do you hate him? That's why you said it. That's why you said it. It's not the flatter. We are supposed to be positive. That's why what said it. That's the reason that you hate him. No, it's not the flatter. We are supposed to be positive. That's why what you said was unbelievable. He hates guys. He's hiding from us.
Starting point is 02:08:11 I watched that clip. I liked him a little bit. Don't spin my words. Well, I'm just telling you. You're going to have to listen back. Yeah, me too, though, by the way. I did. Words have meaning, Fox.
Starting point is 02:08:21 Did you hate him? No, it made me like him even more. Fox, why are you so defensive? I do dislike his flat earth. I think he's backed off that. If we're throwing things out there. I think he's backed off that. People are a lot of opinions.
Starting point is 02:08:34 Well, not that one. I don't think you're allowed to have. That's one that people are like, meh, well. Didn't that one guy, I thought the one guy proved it when he shot himself up in the rocket to try to see if the earth was flat. Oh, Matt Mike. Oh, no, well. I thought the one guy proved it when he shot himself up in the rocket to try to see if the earth was flat. Oh, Matt Mike. Unfortunately. What did he report back? Well, he didn't
Starting point is 02:08:52 because he went up and then went straight down. He was going up of him saying, it's always there. All right, let's have a moment of silence for Matt Mike. Talking about the ground when his craft exploded into it and he died on impact.
Starting point is 02:09:06 Body turned into soup. There's no reason to say that about Mad Mike. Well, it didn't matter. I don't think for that quick the flight was. I think he had one, but it just didn't work. It was made out of soup cans. It was a bad rocket. He should have never got in that.
Starting point is 02:09:20 Do flat earthers believe in space? Yes. Okay. I don't know. Great question. Because are we just floating through space as flat earth with the atmosphere around? Yes. Okay, I don't know. Great question. Yeah, it's a... Because are we just floating through space as flat Earth with the atmosphere around?
Starting point is 02:09:29 Is that what they think? Yeah, it's like a Frisbee. That's sick. How come nobody's just walking from one end to the other to raise money for fucking something? Yeah. Why is Mike Posner not going from left Earth to right Earth straight across one flat thing and not raising money right now.
Starting point is 02:09:45 He got bit by that rattlesnake. Bro, Posner is an electrifying follow on Instagram. He's writing a book now. Damn right he is. Did that confirm? Is he going to write it? A couple years. No, I think he is.
Starting point is 02:09:57 I thought he was. Mike Posner is an awesome listen to right now. I mean, I know him like as a musician, right? What all is he doing? Is he motivating? lot yeah he's incredibly deep he's doing he's kind of evolved you know he's changed he had a lot of success crashed came back had like you know realized crashed really well he disappeared well i mean that's the music game you got a hit and then you hopefully you come have more hits but you say i made a million dollars and i spent it on girls and shoes that's right he crashed i think he did crash i think in his own lyrics he said like hey and then he met avicii you know and then he started putting real
Starting point is 02:10:34 life into it and he stopped drinking hennessey because he thought fans thought it was cool yeah and then bangers came yeah boom boom boom boom buster had like six seven bangers came. Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Bosner had like six, seven bangers real quick. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It was like he's all the way back. And then he became an electrifying Instagram follow. He was walking across America and then got bit by a rattlesnake. You hear me, AJ? That was legit. Like, he almost
Starting point is 02:10:58 died, didn't he? Yes. Oh, yeah? Yes. Rattlesnakes are real. Rattlesnakes are very real. And that's genuine. Just like his show. We'll be back tomorrow. We're out of here. Big guest tomorrow, AJ. Huge. Alien talk.
Starting point is 02:11:11 Yeah. What time? Big G. 115 EST, I do believe, is what was confirmed with the comms department. Ty? Yes, that is correct. 115. 115 EST will get all the answers.
Starting point is 02:11:20 Okay? That we couldn't understand today, maybe? No. Yeah. Not at all. Could not understand what they were saying. So much mumbo jumbo out of their mouths why are you speaking in legal ease different language i guess they kind of have to because they're on oath under oath so well they also just kept saying officially well how come the two people that are in charge of
Starting point is 02:11:38 investigating know less than me oh they know they just don't that's that's what i mean they kept saying well officially we didn't actually see that. I just feel like everything happened. Then what are they even doing it for? Yeah, good question. Exactly. What's this song and dance? It's all show. Just for us. Kissing babies, shaking hands. Bullshit. Maybe we're wrong, though. We'll get answers
Starting point is 02:11:57 tomorrow. Hell yeah. Will we? What do you call them? Big G? Big G. Marine Mike? Yeah. Marine Mike? Yeah. Marine Mike. Tell you what, if he wants to get reelected in the Green Bay area, yeah, he's going to have to give us some answers because guess what?
Starting point is 02:12:11 I think we got a couple of watchers from fucking Green Bay area. Wow. That's very confident of you and cocky of you. Well, no. I mean, Aaron's on. Yeah, but that's on a Tuesday during the season. I'm just saying. Plus, Aaron's a big alien guy i
Starting point is 02:12:25 love meeting people yeah he is true he has seen him yeah he has seen him orange light then a couple choppers that are not choppers uh uh top gun pilots yeah flying behind fighter jets flying behind he said saw four or five fighter jets chasing this thing in the sky in new jersey or new york or something like that so that's how we do it. Same orange thing that I've seen. Yeah. And then they saw it in Houston too. Same one. If this guy doesn't give us answers. Me and Foxy seen the same thing that Aaron Rodgers seen. We just didn't have
Starting point is 02:12:53 any fighter jets to chase that thing down. Yeah, if he doesn't give us answers, we tell him that Aaron will back his opponent, which will carry a lot of weight in that area. Even if he doesn't give us answers, we might need Gallagher. We might need Gallagher. Can't get in politics. He is the fastest man in Congress, by the way.
Starting point is 02:13:09 Fastest guy in Congress. He's a fucking Marine, dude. That thing we watched this morning, though, that happens all the time? Is that every day? Yeah, that was just the title of it. That thing was terrible. So they're actually just wasting time every day at those things.
Starting point is 02:13:21 Every day. And is a 16-year-old producing that thing? All day, every day. I think it's the first time since 50 years. He's done. They've covered this. The UFO, yeah. But we're just talking about the entire thing.
Starting point is 02:13:29 Like hearings. There's hearings all the time. He's been all day, every day. Who's in charge of photography over there? I was thinking to myself, man, if we were to get our hands on this for, what, two days, maybe? Not even. I mean, it's just like, all right, here we go.
Starting point is 02:13:44 They're not thinking of entertainment value, though they're thinking of we just put a fucking graphic over the ufo that they were trying to show on a screen that was away from any microphone misdirection classic misdirection you're worried about the production my reports are saying it's mark farkas mark farkas yeah farkas know you've got a lot going on. You've got to fill, what, 45 hours every two days, whatever. Yeah, it's Farkas and then Peter Slenny. Hey, Peter, I know you guys have got a lot going on, but at one point you put a graphic of who the fuck was speaking,
Starting point is 02:14:20 which we couldn't hear over the actual UFO that we were trying to see that we couldn't see. It's like, what the fuck is going on on C-SPAN? Yeah, no, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if the guys who are producing that are like two 92-year-old guys sitting in a soiled diaper in some control room. He was in his 20s in Christmas Story, right? And now he's fucking produced in C-SPAN?
Starting point is 02:14:34 Farkas? Farkas, yeah. Scotty Farkas? Heat Pro. Scotty Farkas gets the shit beat out of him. Just what a day. What a moment for Ralphie, by the way. What a moment in there.
Starting point is 02:14:45 Anyways, follow up. It was bad. Very bad. It was in 720 too? I was like. That's what I told you. I said nothing's going to happen. Yeah, but you're fucking negative, dude.
Starting point is 02:14:55 Sometimes I'm going to bar. Tomorrow. Trying to tell you don't get your hopes up, but you're right. That's a great tease for our Wednesday show. Yeah, because tomorrow we're getting all the answers that we couldn't get then. That's right. Now, Bennett, it feels like the guy we're talking to was the one asking the questions. I don't know if he has the answers. He's very curious.
Starting point is 02:15:12 He's also going to be curious, but he'll know more than we will know, hopefully. We'll see. Definitely. We'll find out tomorrow at 115 Eastern Standard Time. Be a friend, tell a friend of aliens, or maybe be enchanted about them. Hell yeah. Definitely be enchanted about them. Maybe being real. Hell yeah. Definitely real. Maybe being confirmed Maybe being real. Hell yeah. Definitely real. Maybe being confirmed real.
Starting point is 02:15:27 Yeah, I'm finding out more info. Foxy and I synced. Yeah. That orange globe was one million percent an alien. One million percent. Yeah, somebody tagged you guys
Starting point is 02:15:37 in that thing that was over Houston. That was the same as you, I think. Bingo. Over also the carrier out in the middle of the sea. Yes. Boom.
Starting point is 02:15:45 Man, that's so cool they chose us to just see that. It was just us and them in the sky. Just floating in all those marks out there. It was a moon. Yeah. Follow up. My wife sent me a text when she found out that this representative Gallagher was coming on the show. Big G.
Starting point is 02:15:59 She said, please do not embarrass yourself and ask about the moon that you guys saw out of the plane. It's like, Sam. Whoa. Sam, it wasn't a. It's like, Sam. Whoa. Sam wasn't a fucking moon. Okay, Sam. Is that funny, AJ? That's very funny. Yes, credit to Sam.
Starting point is 02:16:10 I know she's a smart gal. No. AJ. She is. Just challenging you. And just to challenge you on that is I give her credit. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, I appreciate and respect her.
Starting point is 02:16:19 Ha, ha, ha, ha. Funny, Sam. Me and Foxy, everybody on the internet has said this as well. Low-hanging fruit. You know, it's kind of a stale toast, stale bread. You're going to hurt yourself to even talk about that being the moon. Everybody got their jokes in. Me and Foxy have seen the moon 35 years running.
Starting point is 02:16:35 How long have you seen the moon? 27 years running. You start doing some quick math there. 62 fucking years of seeing the moon. The moon doesn't exist in Detroit, though, so it's only your opinion. The moon is the only thing that exists in Detroit, I think. I don't think there's any sunshine up there. No, you can't see it. That's what I'm saying. You can't see it. Oh, you're talking about all the fog.
Starting point is 02:16:52 The moon has never been inside the atmosphere in my 27 years personally. Well, I'm not a Hermson Shore the reality of that, but the moon should not be sitting at 10,000 feet. No, no, no, no. So when I'm eye to eye with this fucking thing, what's going on, alien? It's not a moon.
Starting point is 02:17:08 If the moon was that low, the tides would be crazy. Yeah, the flooding would be fucking catastrophe. Don't even want to start with that. Oh, and the lake too. Oh, my God. Parking a boat would be impossible. We'd be on a beach right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:19 We would be? Indianapolis would be beachfront if the fucking moon was at 10,000 feet. The menstrual cycles too. Oh, let me give you a story. Al Gore already told us that. Jesus. What? Exactly.
Starting point is 02:17:28 What? What? No. What are you guys talking about? That guy's a good guy in Florida. The moon or the menstrual cycle? Let's go to Al Gore. None of it.
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Starting point is 02:18:08 Boom. Boom. Say something nice to somebody. Be nice to somebody in a genuine fashion. Adam, say it. Screenshot it with your cash tag. We will see you tomorrow. Thank you so much for watching. Thanks to Chris Collinsworth, Sean Casey, the mayor. Good baseball talk to start the show. Yeah. Great. People forget that that happened today. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:24 Bill Burr, incredible conversation obviously with him. Very thankful for all of you. And the call is on the 5. Yeah, great baseball talk. People forget that that happened today. Oh, yeah. Bill Burr, incredible conversation, obviously, with him. Very thankful for all of you. And the calls on the 5 Energy phone line. Bye. See you tomorrow. See you, AJ. Have a good one, man. Maybe some positivity tomorrow out of you.
Starting point is 02:18:33 All right. Always positive. Can't wait for Wednesday. All right. See you tomorrow. Hey, we're going to learn about aliens tomorrow. Hell yeah. We're going to learn everything about them.
Starting point is 02:18:39 We might even see one tomorrow. So, yeah, stay tuned. Well, I've seen one already. It was like a month ago. Yeah. So, you're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. It's like Big bigfoot i've seen it well i haven't actually but the person i was with has seen it you guys hang out with me it'll show up by association all right
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