The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 667 - Nick Saban And Jimbo Fisher Are At War, Mike Rupp, Micah Hyde, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 19, 2022

On today’s podcast Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys talk about Jim Irsay’s comments about Carson Wentz, the Jimbo Fisher, Deion Sanders, and Nick Saban beef regarding NIL, Nike’s commercial that listed their famous signed athletes from the past, present, and the future, and everything else that is happening in the sports world. Joining the progrum is 14 year NHL veteran and Stanley Cup Champion Mike Rupp to talk about playoff hockey and the referees that make the game interesting (51:23-1:23:03). Later, Pat and AJ welcome 2x All-Pro, Pro Bowler, current Buffalo Bills Safety, and 10-year NFL stud Micah Hyde to talk about what to expect from the highly regarded and electrifying Bills team and what the organization has done to raise awareness and money for the terrible situation that happened in Buffalo along with the NFL (1:23:26-2:05:00). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. It is this Tiger Boost Better Hit Thursday, May 19th, 2022. And this sports show shall begin right now. Yeah! We have the PGH Championship on in the studio, as I assume everybody has, around the globe. Tiger Woods is stalking. Tiger Woods is golfing. He's currently even. We need him to end the round that way so we can all hit the plus 250 bet that we made a super boost just yesterday. Roy McIlroy currently in the lead at 4-under in the group alongside Tiger Woods and Jordan Spieth.

We'll keep you updated as the show goes on about that. We also have some fantastic guests today. Mike Rupp will join us in the second hour. Stanley Cup champion and although hockey season is over, the Caniacs get a big time win over the Rangers. Talk to him about hockey a little bit.

That should be a lot of fun. Last night's Hockey Talk episode was great, Nick. Good work out there, boys. Micah Hyde will join us in the third hour out of Buffalo Bills team. Obviously, his charity softball game raised money this past weekend for what happened in Buffalo, and we'll chat with him about that, what the Buffalo Bills are doing for the community,

and the Buffalo Bills are currently the favorite winning the Super Bowl. What's life like at the top as opposed to the bottom? Zero Pro Bowlers on that defense. I know he and Jordan Poyer are probably not happy about it. Can't wait to chat with Micah Hyde about all things happening in the world. A.J. Hawk will join us in about 25 minutes. And the reason why A.J. Hawk is going to join us is because A.J. Hawk, former college football national champion.

A.J. Hawk lives in Columbus, Ohio, loves college football. Oh, yeah. College football right now has its main event of the evening happening. Oh, yeah. College football right now has its main event of the evening happening. Hell yeah. Nick Saban got a promo last night for like a minute and 41 seconds on a show. I don't know where it was, a speech,

whatever he was doing. He was live with two other people. They hit the internet. He talked about how, you know, the NIL world is changing things. And now Texas A&M. Alright. Texas A&M, all right. Texas A&M, all right. Texas A&M, all right. They have the number one recruiting class.

They paid for every single player, he said. They just paid for every. We're number two. They paid for everybody. Jimbo Fisher heard that and this morning called a press conference to answer Nick Saban's, you know, kind of slanderous comments about him cheating and buried Nick Saban. He came out firing. I only want to – let's run – let's not run it yet.

I want A.J. Hawk on here. A.J. Hawk is going to join us early because I can't wait to see his brain do this thing. They're cutting real promos against each other. College football right now, very alive because Jimbo Fisher Nick Saban two greats obviously two champions of college football are absolutely burying each other in the NIL world seems to continue to be this gift that keeps on giving not only is there commissioners of leagues going to lobby in Washington DC about guardrails and rules in teams like Central Michigan offering a million dollars up for Caleb Williams, the quarterback that inevitably would go to USC to go there.

It's the wild, wild west, and now it's got two big-time names in college football sending public shots at each other. It is a beautiful thing, and we'll break it all down in about 24 minutes. Okay. Before then, we'll have a great chat with the Talks at Table at Ty Schmitt at Boston Corner.

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I want to let you know you look great. How have you guys been doing gambling? What have we been gambling on? Baseball still carrying the tide? NBA last night, I lost every single bet because I thought Luka and the boys would at least put up a fight because he was drinking beers the day before. I assume you drink some beers, you're feeling confident. He got hit in the face, had a pretty good game, did his thing.

But that Mavericks team, they seem to be outgunned, outmanned, outclassed, outplanned. It really feels like that is what happened last night. Poole comes in and does miraculous things. Wiggins starting to get some buckets. You watch him the last three games or so, and that's the only time I've really watched him. The over one-and-a-half threes for Wiggins that was on that bet last night

or on Fandle last night, lock. If you had watched him the last couple games, it feels like he's getting more confident putting up more shots they're falling Steph Curry what's going on at the foul line I mean I lost a lot of bets last night because a lot of things I did not expect to happen did not happen and uh it's a problem what should we expect out of the NBA or is that not what we should be gambling on because nobody has a clue what's going to happen well if you remember in the Sun series the Mavs got absolutely dominated but first two games on the road then they came back

home one two and then they found a way to win game seven it was a home series so it may go that way but also with luca like they have the ability to throw draymond clay and wiggins all at them to take their they don't all they don't have to go at it one at a time. You know what I mean? Luka will end up getting his. Did you bet 40? Did you do Connor bets? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Connor bets. Oh, yeah.

Well, you should have seen him pregame, Tony. I mean. So that's the problem because Connor and I saw the same thing. We were watching the TNT coverage live from the stadium. Interesting desk size. I was on the mask, too, by the way. Yeah. Plus five and a half.

Yeah. Me as well. I thought they were going to show up, but we should have known up there. Golden State, some people still wear masks there. Yeah. I don't fully understand. But that area, right, is the super, hey, we're going to be safer and better than everybody else on Earth. Yeah, we saved the world.

But not everybody, though. No. Like a lot of people in that arena were not wearing masks because they showed like Steve Kerr and everybody. They're wearing their masks while he was talking to the the team he was even fixing to make sure it was over the nose and everything and all the coaches had it so I was like oh that must just be like San Francisco or Golden State area then I looked in the crowd that was not the case I was kind of I was very intrigued by it and this whole NBA time in the NHL have it in between periods there has to be a mask that one lady had a full. Her mask went from her hairline to her jaw.

Yeah, from ear to ear. And I don't know if COVID was getting in or out, but it was tough to understand what the fuck she was saying. And she's the only person in the entire arena that's wearing a mask. I don't, I guess it just, we're still in it, I guess. Yeah. If you choose to, you choose to. And if you don't, you don't.

No, but I don't think these NHL intermission, I don't think you're choosing to. The people who actually work for the networks, it's mandates still. I think so, yeah, because Jackie Redmond came out and said, I'm not choosing to fucking wear this, okay? They're forcing me. She didn't say it in those words, but there's a lot of people saying, take off that fucking mask, Jackie. Yeah.

Jackie was like, well, I'm kind of forced to do this. I don't know what you want me to do, but why is that still a thing? I don't know. Nick, why is that happening in the NHL? I assume they're just taking every possible precaution because there are still random spurts. We see Charlie McAvoy, obviously, last series of guys getting it. So you don't want to have some reporter coming in from God knows where, whatever. They're out gallivanting around.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. that's it, Nick. That's good. Yeah, because these players aren't interacting with any other humans that aren't wearing masks at any other time during the day, and there isn't people right there next to them that don't have masks on. So if this reporter that was to ask them one question in between a period was to do it, I mean, that would be a real bummer because they would know it came directly from that interview and not like, I don't know, the gas station, the stores,

the restaurants, life, everything right now, right? That's what the NHL is saying, though, is what you're saying? I guess. That's their logic. Hmm. Kind of bums me out every time I see it. I'm like, man, we haven't. What do they know that I don't know?

Have we not beat this motherfucker that took us all out, that brought us all down? I thought we beat this thing. What are they know that I don't know? Have we not beat this motherfucker that took us all out, that brought us all down? I thought we beat this thing. What are we doing? I don't know. And by beat, it doesn't mean it's disappearing and that it wasn't terrible when it happened.

It's like, no, we're back to living though. There you go. Feels like we're back to living life, which is we should always enjoy and with what happened with old Uncle COVID, I think we should appreciate even more than we ever had in the past

how much we have life and we live so every time i see like steve kerr i have a lot of respect i think he's an incredibly intelligent man i'm like what does he know that i don't know like is there still a chance i'm gonna walk out there i'm gonna lose my taste i'm gonna lose my smell and i'm gonna fucking die is that still happening because that's not what i'm thinking every friday night i'm in an arena with 13 000 people living their best life and although I did get a bad case of COVID. What was that before football season? Yeah, right before. So I have respect for what people had gone through with COVID. I was 104.5 degrees or something like that. I mean, I would potentially

should have went to the hospital there. Instead, I came on the show. You did. I was miserable. I was not great. It was maybe my worst performance ever on a microphone i was back so i'm not saying it wasn't bad at one point but it feels like the overwhelming situation and sense is that we're all the way back i don't understand why jackie redmond and the people in the nhl network have to do i don't i honestly i'm like why is this still a thing but then i guess health and safety people are still missing games because of it yeah and kerr had covid last week i think so when he was wearing his mask it made a little sense but also once you have covid don't you have the antibodies forever and if he's having it why is he even there if he's so if he's not having any of the uh symptoms symptoms yeah so he's

so he's a simp right now so so they say, but I guess we don't know that if a simp can't spread it. I thought that was the thing. If you're a simp, get the fuck away from him. That's right. But if you're just a simp. If you're a simp, be a simp. If you're a simp, I don't think, whatever. It's interesting.

I just want to know what they know that I don't know, because I would like to know what they know, because if I know what they know, maybe that changes how I operate every Friday night. Right. Oh, hey, good to see you. You know, that's fair. So I would like to know what the fuck they know. Like, why is the nhl having them do like i'm sure the reporters i'm not 100 sure what their you know hygiene level i assume that they wash their hands every yeah when i'm running through that arena i'm not sure some

people in there have you know thought about doing that in a little bit and i'm in there hug hogging how you doing what do they know that i i don't what is it someplace in the nba know that i don't know miami they got all their security still oh yeah should i know what they know is it am i potentially when i'm at smackdown having the the most social interaction with literally hundreds of people literally yeah what do they know that I don't know? I would like to know. And that is why whenever I see it, I'm like, what the fuck? Am I still potentially putting my life on the line every DAP up?

Well, like you said, I mean, it makes more sense. But I think we're in a different spot. When you had COVID the first time, it was like still, hey, this guy might need to go to the hospital. I mean, all stadiums are packed. It is a different time right now. Every arena is packed. Every stadium is packed. Even when you got it,

they were all packed. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Am I still, should I still be that worried? I've got two times now at this point. I'm double vaxxed. What am I? Well, this is what we talked about last week. I think there's just going to be a group of people that are always going to wear a mask forever now just because of the fact that kovat's not just going to like disappear into the sky one day now just a follow-up though there are

people being forced to wear masks though as well yes for sure and i don't want to be their voice because i don't know why they're being forced to wear a mask i would just like no if i should be wearing a mask as well right yeah are they safer than i am are they more safe than i am i guess maybe is it needed though i need to know well anyways we were watching pregame yeah thought the desk was a little small they had duane wade duane wade gets along with everybody up there i think he's great on tv so i enjoyed the optics though of them live i think they opened up the speakers to the crowd a few times i don't think the entire time though no i think there was a few times where they opened it up, like, college game day-ish almost and WWE-ish,

whenever you get a microphone open to the crowd. Because there was a couple. Shaq cut a promo at the end when he made his selection about Golden State, and it was obvious that Shaq knew that they could hear him. And he got a pretty good little pop, and it was awesome. Chuck, on the flip side, he talked up them, and then he picked the Mavs at the end. and then he immediately afterwards after getting uh something said to him by a golden state fan on site outside of the arena he said i'll go to your house and i'll fuck your mother

yeah yeah okay and that is what chuck told us why he's on social media by the way chuck told us he's on social media because he would not allow somebody the opportunity to have access to him because he is somebody who has to respond to have access to him because he is somebody who has to respond he said i'll have a cup of tequilas or i think tequila i'll be at a bar i have some tequila and somebody will say something and lo and behold i will respond and i will be better than that person isn't talking shit or whatever and it's always that chuck is unclassy chuck's unprofessional nobody ever judges the person to talk shit to chuck and chuck is just answering how he would answer and how he's

answered since the beginning last night we got to see that when he said he would fuck somebody's mama in their house by the way chuck let's get on the internet because you're gonna be telling people that on the internet every day we need you out here okay the god kevin durant's doing this lamar jackson's out here doing his thing. Hey, Chuck, we get you on the internet. You'd be beloved out here. But he made a selection of the Mavs, a little bit of a boo there situation. I enjoyed the presentation of it all.

But during the show or during the kickoff show, they showed Steph Curry take a three from like the fucking bench. Yeah. Like gets a ball. Just look like a uh just a random drop in to the game he was just sitting there doing his thing gets a ball from the bench shoots it and says let's go as he's shooting it it appears as if it is a splash turns around very comfortable and confident sits down i immediately go to vandal give me fucking steph

40 plus right now Right the fuck now. This guy goes one for 50 from the foul. What is that about? He made some big shots. He also missed some shots that we don't normally see Steph Curry miss. Not only the free throws. There was a step back three that he almost missed the entire hit off the side

of it like we would if we're just fucking around chucking up. Oh, Steph Curry like shots. Is he broken? What's going on with Stephh what's happening right now he's still doing the same chew on the mouth beast thing he seems to still have the confidence i know he's coming back from an injury but he's what's is he what is he gonna be back are they expecting me back it seems like this is mental is this mental is this physical what is this with stuff he in the they won by yeah yeah this is a team that won. In the opening series, he had some free throw miss, too.

And then against the Grizz, he was back to being good again. So, I don't know. Maybe it's a lack of focus or whatever. But he's still been scoring. 21 he had. Yeah, last night. But in the Memphis series, he was scoring upper 20s or 30 pretty much every single game. Yeah, the first game of the series, you're getting to know the other team. Because every team is going to guard everybody different.

It's like with Luka that Dave mentioned. The first three possessions, they had three different guys on them each time. So, they're like getting to know kind of the other team because every team is going to guard everybody different. It's like with Luka that Dave mentioned, the first three possessions, they had three different guys on them each time. So they're just trying to confuse them a little bit. How about Wiggins just smacking him in the face and having that just stripe like he's going to war. Yeah. Looked like he had war paint across his face. I was like, oh, Luka's about to go.

I almost hammered Luka. I'm like, oh, he's going to go. And he did. He missed some as well. I think, you know, first game, maybe some jitters. The home team gets the win. But I lost so many bets last night. Yeah, it's tough.

Don't worry. Tonight we got the Celtics and they're a lock. So, I mean, you'll win it all back tonight. Don't be doing this shit. They are. Marcus March back. They're going to win. How about Al Horford?

Al Horford is TBD. He's vaxxed. And, I mean, this fucking COVID thing. He's doubtful because of COVID? He's doubtful because of COVID? He's doubtful because of COVID. Maybe. They're always doubtful because of COVID. Until they're probable.

So is he like super duper sick? Is that why COVID is keeping them out? I don't think so. Because he went through the shoot around on Monday. Because there's levels to this COVID shit. We all agree, right? We all can agree on that. I had COVID twice.

One, very, very difficult. difficult the second very quick not it felt like nothing almost vaxxed both in the middle of all of that right so i feel from my personal experience i can say okay you can get 104 and a half degree fever chills like every 15 minutes uh soreness the whole thing and, and lose your taste and smell. I think some people did, and that same thing. And then also, it can be, right? That's it, yeah. So are they just judging them all the same

whenever it comes to Al Horford's playing time? Is it Al Horford deciding it? Is it the NBA deciding it? How is it decided, I wonder? I mean, I don't know how sick or how many symptoms he has, but Tuesday before the game when they did their day shoot-around before they actually went into the arena later on, he was there. He wasn't really struggling in any facet of the shoot-around,

so I don't know if he actually does all of a sudden got symptoms maybe a few hours later in the day. Hopefully he's back, but Marcus Smart being back is the biggest deal. Okay, I don't know if the Celtics are a lock, but I need a bet to hit right now, and this Tiger boost is not looking good. He's plus one right now. Oh, wait. This is for

Birdie, though. Off the green from the fridge. Oh! Leaves himself a 10-foot effort. A lot of meat left on that bone. He got a read of the green, though, when he shot it over there, so we don't know which way it's going. No, it was going too fast. Fuck.

That thing was hard. Yeah. He golfed with the director of golf just a week ago. Should know the ins and outs of that entire place. Tiger. It looks like these greens are lightning fast. The few bogeys that he's had, it's been stuff like that where he's just fucking piring it. Hey, you're putting on glass, Tiger.

Come on, Tiger. Just the stick,'s just fucking piring it. Hey, you're putting on glass, Tiger. Come on, Tiger. Fucking adjust the stick, dude. You can do it. Carson Wentz has responded to Jim Irsay. Jim Irsay said it was a mistake, you know, and I don't think he called it a mistake necessarily. The way Jim Irsay chatted about it, he might have said mistake, but you've got to

remember the way Jim Irsay speaks. I mean, he speaks in, you know, full thoughts and metaphors almost. He said it just didn't fit. The fit wasn't right. Chris Ballard then came out after the trade for Matt Ryan and said that even if they made playoffs, there's a lot of hard decisions that could have been made. So for whatever reason, upper management,

and upper management might just be Jim Irsay, might be the Irsay family, might be Chris Ballard and Jim Irsay. Who knows who's all involved? But it feels like at some point during the season last year, somebody at upper management for the Colts said, you know what, Carson Wentz experiment, it's been fun, but this isn't for us. For whatever reason. Now, as somebody that's a fan of the Colts, because the Colts are family to me

and it helps me out a lot, and obviously they paid for this entire studio and everything to be built. Now I had to kick some balls every once in a while for them. But I am a Colts fan through and through because everybody in the building. There was times watching him play where you thought to yourself, if this is what the future of the Colts looks like, this is going to be difficult to survive. And not because you're miserable

but because he was a reckless football player okay and all the Carson Wentz defenders that come after me for saying this his great football moments were amazing they were awesome but he was just careless with the football and in the game of football the ball is the program that is literally everybody's rule like hey this football right here and obviously this is just the baby duke it is not the big duke the wilson but literally hey this ball is paying for all of our lives this ball is the reason why we are here we would like to keep it away from the other team and we'd like to take this motherfucker from that team as much as possible we would like to have this ball and I think that was something

that was maybe pounded into my head football IQ was when I was at the Colts the way they viewed it Jim Irsay's been around quarterbacking great quarterbacking in the NFL since he was literally like 11 12 years old with Unitas on the fucking team so I feel that there was a time where Jim Irsay was watching the games and was thinking the exact same things that I was thinking while I was speaking it into this microphone, because most of my football IQ has come from the Colts organization, which Jim Irsay has headed for a long, long, long time. So I think Jim Irsay made a decision early in the season that was like, I don't know if this is the right fit. Not that he's a bad player. Not that he's a bad person.

But in our ideals, in our visions of what football is, you cannot play the quarterback position, the most important position on the field, and be this careless with the most important part of the game, which is the ball. Balancing on it, tossing it into another hand in the middle of a rainstorm, shot putting it into somebody's chest, falling into the end zone, throwing a zero-yard pick six.

There's just decisions that get made through a lot of games that you think to yourself, oh, this guy's last thought is I need to keep this ball. His thought is I need to make a play, I need to make a play, when some places that just isn't how they view it. Tigers plus two. Fuck. He's being fucking reckless with his golf ball. Come on, Tiger.

But this is what Carson Wentz told Colin Taherd on the Colin Taherd podcast of the Volume Network. When Jim Irsay says, hey, we made a mistake, I'm like, ow, ow, that hurts a little, right? I mean, it is what it is. You know, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. You know, I thought last year was a really fun year. You know, I thought we did some incredible things, came up short at the end. Obviously, I struggled down the stretch there, and timing was poor. But, yeah, I didn't expect that.

I didn't expect things to unfold the way they did. And, you know, I thought things were in a pretty good place there. Had awesome relationships with every single person in that building. Can't say enough good things about the people over there. And yeah, kind of came out of left field. He's entitled to his own opinion. And he's entitled to do what he wants with his football team. He is in his life.

But I like that Carson took the high road. And once again, I don't think Jim Irsay had any negative feelings towards Carson Wentz, the person. I honestly believe it was just his style of play that Jim Irsay had experienced for half a season, maybe two games, three games, however long. And Jim was like, I'm not doing this every single game, no matter how this ends up.

That's kind of what Ballard alluded to. I like that Carson Wentz took the high road, which, once again, Carson Wentz is probably an incredible guy. We got a chance to experience it. He's not with the commanders. We're with Matt Ryan. This is probably best for all parties. But I don't think this was a personal insult from Jim Mercer.

I think it was just a, hey, this ain't my fucking bag, baby. Yeah, and you look at the way they both responded to it. Obviously, he's a quarterback. He's a great guy. He's always going to say the right thing. But you saw how much it fucking chapped Ursae's ass that they didn't go to the playoffs last year. And it's like, I understand, but he's happy-go-lucky.

Hey, we did a lot of great things. It seems like it almost doesn't affect him, and it's in the past now. But you'd think if he maybe had a conversation with Ursa and was like i fucked up things didn't go the way we thought they would like this is all on me you know like maybe taking a little more accountability than ursa might have been like okay like i wonder if carson and jim talked and i wonder because i think there was a report that carson wanted to talk to jim or jim when i forget how it went but they end up not talking and i wonder if that's j Jim just saying, like, I don't want to know. I don't want to hear his.

I don't want to be talked back into doing what we just did for an entire season again. Or if, like, just fascinating the way everything can be depicted and how incredible the game of football is and how deep it is. Because Carson might have great success with the commanders. Honestly, I genuinely believe that there might be a run next year where Carson puts the commanders on his back and wins a lot of games for him. Because when Carson is playing good football, he is a great football player. Massive chance they're doing well for the commanders too.

Like he is a tough son of a bitch. He just, I mean. Careless. When you come out that flat. Just fucking careless. Yeah. This isn't North Dakota. Yeah.

QB's got to get the team ready, and look what they did in Jacksonville. Like Jim Mercer said, that wasn't flat. That was just not showing up. We weren't even competitive. At halftime, they were telling me to stay positive and optimistic, and I said, this ship has sailed. Call the plane. I'm out of here.

Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron James Hawk. Yeah! Centerville legend as well. I apologize. 31 tackles. 31 tackles, two games. Yes, please. 31 tackles in two games.

Ain't that right, AJ? Yep, that's my rider that I send out to every show I do that they have to intro me that way. Smart. Everything I just said or just the 31 tackles in two games in high school, you had to be so insufferable the next week in high school. Oh, my do you mean what was i what was i doing you were not going to class you're giving wedgies probably you're locking people in lockers you're doing nerd get out of the way another one tackles nobody doing you there you must have been there it sounds like you were there well it feels like we know you pretty well at this point yeah i was like a doyle just cruising

around the whole 31 tackles in a game two times? Of course that's what you like. Yeah. Okay. How many yards did you rush for in those games? That's a great question. I have no idea what games those would be and even what season. Are you the only player in the history of football to have 31 tackles

and maybe 100 yards rushing? I would, no. absolutely highly doubtful, especially coming from Centerville. They have a long line of stud linebackers. This guy, A.J. Hall. Adam Taylor still might be the best middle linebacker I have ever seen. He was like the guy I was trying to be eventually. All right, well, thank you, Adam.

Yeah, way to go, Adam. He's a teacher back there now, too. Wrestler, you know, one of those guys that you probably never kill if you try to. Well, thank you, Adam. We appreciate what you did. You inspired this guy to become an absolute monster on the football field. 10 Diggs has a stat update. Fucking American Football Database says Hawks records include most tackles in a game,

31 on three separate occasions. Oh, so the Hall of Fame at Centerville High School, not even right. Is that wild? They're trying to undersell you? Is that because Adam Taylor got it twice? Is that because he wanted you to tie the record, not beat the record? We know what Diggs is saying. It has to be correct.

Well, it's the internet. Don't blame Diggs. Yeah, Diggs observing a report on the internet right now. Not his problem. Anyways, let's get to. Please. Yes. AJ, this NIL deal has been the gift that keeps on giving to us that cover the sports world.

Central Michigan or Western Michigan or something offered up a million bucks to a player to come play for them. Instead, Caleb Williams transfers to USC and is their starting quarterback instead. But a Mac school put up a milli to get this player with this NIL ruling. Players going in transfer portal. Players are now selecting which team they want to go to for what can be most beneficial for them and their family in the short term. Will it end up hurting them in the long term? We shall see. We all think probably.

Nonetheless, it will hopefully get figured out. Now, the NIL ruling in the ability to give out money and pay players and get players money for them to join your squad has started a beef between two lifelong friends. Two guys from West Virginia. One has climbed to the mountaintop one time. The other six or seven. Two guys that have changed the sport

of college football from the same area during the same time who have done things parallel to each other. One winning at a much higher rate than the other. Nick Saban and Jimbo Fisher about to fucking throw hands.

We're talking old school Donnybrook. We're talking West Virginia, right to the mouth, Nick Saban. All right, throws a left back at Jimbo Fisher. This all started last night with Nick Saban speaking on a panel publicly where he talks about the state of the NIL, the state of college football,

and in doing so, saws down an old friend that starts a war that we have not seen in some time publicly. Here's Nick Saban starting that thing. The shot heard round the world. But I know the consequence is going to be difficult for the people who are spending tons of money to get players. And you've read about them. You know who they are.

I mean, we were second in recruiting last year. A&M was first. A&M bought every player on their team. Made a deal for name, image, and likeness. We didn't buy one player. But I don't know if we're going to be able to sustain that in the future because more and more people are doing it. So it's tough and people blame the NCAA. But in defense of the NCAA, we are where we are because of the litigation that the NCAA gets,

like the transfer portal. Every time somebody wanted to transfer, they'd apply for a waiver. of the litigation that the NCAA gets, like the transfer portal. Every time somebody wanted to transfer, they'd apply for a waiver. If you didn't give them, the NCAA didn't give them a waiver so they could be immediately eligible, they filed suit. So the NCAA would back off and give them a waiver. So they just said, we're just going to make a rule where everybody can transfer. That's how that happened.

So if the NCAA doesn't get some protection from litigation, whether we've got to get an antitrust or whatever it is, from a federal government standpoint, this is not going to change because they cannot enforce their rules, just like Nate said. We have a rule right now that says you cannot use name, image, or likeness to entice a player to come to your school. Hell, read about it in the paper. I mean, Jackson State paid a guy a million dollars last year that was a really good Division I player to come to your school. Hell, read about it in the paper. I mean, Jackson State paid a guy a million dollars last year

that was a really good Division I player to come to school. It was in the paper, and they bragged about it. Dion. Nobody did anything about it. Aflac, I think. I mean, these guys at Miami that are going to play basketball there for $400,000, it's in the newspaper. The guy tells you how he's doing it.

But the NCAA can't enforce their rules because it's not against the law so I don't think Nick Saban planned on starting wars with both Jimbo Fisher and Deion Sanders whenever he walked onto that stage last night to start talking about the state of the NIL and I think a lot of people will see this as potentially hypocritical because everybody has assumed that for a long time Nick Saban had been cheating and paying players and under the table and paying family members to have jobs in the area so their bank accounts change not the players bank accounts change and people are driving around in nice cars that's what the word was about Nick Saban from outside of Alabama am I wrong in thinking that, A.J. Hawk? No, that's definitely something that people absolutely would assume, that they are doing

it as well as the majority of big-time schools. So the NIL deal kind of allowed other people in other teams to potentially start almost corralling people like, hey, we're allowed to do what the big schools are doing now. And Nick Saban hates it. Nick Saban's not a fan of it. You could hear him basically saying, we're not going to be able to keep up. All right, we're going to fall down here. In Alabama, by the way, I'm a fan. Roll motherfucking tack.

You hear me? I am a fan of anybody and anything that is dominant for a sustained amount of time because the amount of work and the amount of effort and diligence and time and focus and sacrifice it takes to continue to have success is something that I have the utmost respect for and I'm a fan of now though it seems like Nick Saban sounds like a little bit of a uh hypocrite yeah a little bit of a hypocrite in all of our eyes in all of our eyes it sounds like a little bit of a hypocrite. Yeah. A little bit of a hypocrite in all of our eyes. In all of our eyes, it sounds like a little bit of a hypocrite. And Jimbo Fisher said, you think he's a hypocrite? I fucking know him since the old days.

Yeah. This is Jimbo Fisher calling a press conference this morning to answer what Nick Saban claimed just last night. Any contact with Nick since? Oh, he's called. He's called me this morning. Fuck. You just didn't take the call?

Not going to. We're done. Fuck that guy. He shows you who he is. Fuck. And then I just wanted to. He's the greatest ever, huh? You can't move on, bud.

Who's the reporter? And then I just wanted to. When you got all the advantages. Uh-huh. Just let him go. It's easy. And I just wanted to. So that guy had a really important follow-up yeah okay as he was kind of pissed off he goes yeah nick tried to call me all right we're done

he's fucking dead to me okay this guy is done i'm not talking to him oh it's it's all fun and games huh what happens when the rabbit gets the gun it It's basically what Jimbo just said to Saban. Then he would go on to say this about Nick Saban. This one's a big one. This one's a big one. Some people think they're God. Go dig into how God did his deal. You may find out about a guy that a lot of things you don't want to know.

We built him up to be the czar of football. Go dig into his past or anybody that's ever coached with him. You can find out anything you want to find out, what he does and how he does it. And it's despicable. So it's despicable, he says. He says, listen, if somebody out there, okay, somebody wants to do a little investigating work, huh?

Who wants to do it? Who wants to do it? Somebody wants to hear it. Fuck, somebody will want to do it. Go ahead and look into it. It's despicable. What is he talking about there, AJ? wants to hear it. Fuck, somebody will want to do it. Go ahead and look into it. It's despicable. What is he talking about there, AJ? We're talking about.

That's what I want to know. I want to follow it. So he says, like, you can find it out. Just do some digging. Talk to anybody that coached for him. My first follow-up, excuse me, coach, you coached for him for, I believe, five or six years. Please do expound upon what you are trying to tell us. I would love to know all the details.

But I guess is he, my question is, is he just claiming that hey he did like corrupt things to get recruits on campus and they paid players whatever or is he trying to encompass everything like hey he's a bad dude as well off the field that's what i'm worried about i think b is what he was trying to allude to that's like it's that's why it's so real that's why this is unheard of really yes and then back to the football i mean him, him calling them, some people think they're God. Some people think they're God. Rich Rodriguez, same accent, by the way. The West Virginia accent is a sweet one.

Saban moved to Alabama, and he's been in the South for a long time, so I assume the West Virginia and the Southern accent, just like the same with Jimbo Fisher, have come together. But there is a certain cadence that those West Virginia folks have. And the amount of success that they've had being West Virginia guys, I think West Virginia has a lot of pride in. Now they're seeing these two guys go at it. And Jimbo Fisher wasn't done, by the way. He's kind of talking about what we're talking about when it came to hypocrisy from this godlike, czar-like figure that was just running his mouth last night on a goddamn stage.

And if you watch while Saban was talking, his right foot was fucking... He had been thinking about this NIL deal for a long time while he was talking. His foot was doing this thing right here. He is so pissed about this. Jimbo Fisher also pissed. This is what he said about the way

things have been done under Nick Saban's leadership, basically. And the operations, the way things were done the other way, when the parity was there, like we said, never has been parity. Certain people never followed the rules anyway.

Do you suspect Nick has made the rules? No, he didn't say that. It's a misstatement. I believe what he said in the back there was, do you think Saban has broke the rules or whatever? Never said that. It's a misstatement. I believe what was said in the back there was, do you think Saban has broke the rules or whatever? Never said that. Just made a statement or whatever.

So Jimbo's just trying to lay things out like, hey, if you guys want to look into what this guy has done, I'm not going to do exactly what he did, which is just openly say that I cheated to get my entire class that beat his class. But if you guys want to go ahead and snoop around, go ahead and do so. Remember the guy at Tennessee Pruitt? He had McDonald's. He had a McDonald's bag showed up, like a couple extra nuggets in this thing, a little extra

cheese on that Big Mac if you want to fucking come to Tennessee. What was Saban doing? How has he had success for this long? I know they say it's just competition and if you get a bunch of five stars, other five stars want to come because they're going to get better and everybody basically ends up in the NFL and you're going to be a national champion.

That seems like a lot for recruiting, but everybody has assumed that Nick Saban has cheated of some sort with the old rules of the NCAA. Now everybody else is getting to do it, and he's pissed. That is why the big hypocrisy thing is happening, I think, AJ. I mean, okay, so now does Saban call his own presser, and does he try to respond to this? All right. Jimbo's not taking his call, so is Miss now does Saban call his own presser, and does he try to respond to this? All right. Jimbo's not taking his calls, so is Miss Terry, Saban's wife,

going to try to patch things together? Yeah, is Jimbo's and Saban's, you know, because I do believe they have many mutual friends as well. I would assume there's a lot, let alone like ESPN executives as well. Oh, yeah. Hey, we need you two to fuck with our lives. Is he calling, though? Is the NCAA going to call Jimbo and be like, Hey, Jimbo, you were on his staff for a while, and you're saying there's these violations. espn executives as well oh yeah hey we need you two to fuck is he calling though is he is the ncaa

gonna call jimbo and becky jimbo you were on his staff for a while and you're saying there's these violations we're gonna have to sit down and do an interview you we need you to kind of let us know what was going on is that gonna happen i was assuming jimbo you're right the university of alabama was doing that suspend us suspend them suspend them for him at lsu oh was he i don't remember that's why jimbo i was reading some stuff after I saw this a little bit ago, and Jimbo had the opportunity to come back and be the OC of Alabama, and he said no and turned him down.

Watch LSU get banned from bowl games for the next 10 years. Because what Saban and Jimbo did. Brian Kelly. Not the family. Not my family. Oh, you think maybe they orchestrated this together to get LSU. That is what would happen.

Is Coach O in on it? Coach O, maybe. I remember you guys taking all that. You had to clean it up. Like Tom Walmsgam down there. Way to start. Anyways, Deion Sanders also not happy, obviously, with Saban. Much more lighthearted than Jimbo Fisher.

But I guess him saying, you know, they paid a guy a million dollars. I remember that happening. Oh, yeah. I remember that being big news. It was something. It was legal at the time. It was? Is it still legal or is this what they're trying to retroactively go back and punish?

Boom. That's what they're trying to do. Because I guess what Saban said, where there was a rule where you can't openly recruit players with nil money and then everybody started doing is what saban's point well i think saban's entire point there was that there is a rule that the ncaa can't enforce because there's no litigation behind it and i think the way he went about saying that you know he fucking murdered one of his friends yeah and buried his affleck partner as well but it was just him trying to make i think an overarching point that is you weren't allowed to ever just use nil deals as

recruiting tools but literally i was in college football for one fall basically that's it and everybody i talked to when they were talking about the nil stuff potentially coming into being it was like yeah we got dealership here. We got this company that'll do a meet and greet. We'll be able to give guys like 20 grand for this autograph signing here, 30 grand here. I would assume all those things would be laid out to a recruits. Hey, we have this dealership that twice a year we'll do a $25,000 signing where you'll sign a bunch of stuff and you'll be there and they'll sell it. We can do that two times a year for you, about $50,000 a year if you were to come here.

This is what you'd be able to get. I guess it's different when they just say, hey, here's a check for $50,000 to come here as opposed to that. But I assume this was always going to be utilized as a recruiting tool. I don't know why anybody else assumed differently unless you were at the top And you were the only one that was able to do it for so so long Well how do you prove that A school did use this As a way to bring a high school player Like what technically could you show them

Hey look at what your receiver coming in here You're a five star recruit Look at the two five stars we've had A year ahead of you this is what they made Like hey we can't promise you anything But this is the tier we feel like you are on well and i've seen some posts from college recruiting things that are like nil worth and they're putting up like 35k they're putting on like you know how people used to be like five star four star for players geez yeah yeah so like somebody's like

oh this is a four-star recruit nil worth probably with the followers that they have and how good of a player they are 45 000 a year or something like that like that became like a part of the recruiting process and the scouting process like how much money this person is probably eligible for now back to the million dollar thing that you were talking about that we all thought was legal even though saban just said that was never ever legal the recruit that that allegedly happened to said why are my family still living in a small house if I'm a millionaire and then Dion quote tweeted that and said I ain't even getting paid a million to coach Jackson State so I think that might have

been a miscommunication or maybe an overarching deal or a a long-term deal that ended up taking place or maybe a Fugues deal that we thought at the time was a Fugues deal. So I don't know how that whole thing worked out, but this is good. This is good heat. Hey, this is good action between Jimbo and Saban. Oh, yeah, and I assume in terms of them making up, they're going to gas this up all the way until they play in that game. October 8th.

Yeah, they're hoping we get a frickin' Harbaugh-Schwartz situation at midfield after the game or maybe one of them swings on the other one. I also don't think Saban's happy because didn't A&M pull the upset on Bama last year with a third-string quarterback? I remember there was a video of that kicker's mom in the stands, too. Yeah, I believe they did upset them last year, too. So, Saban.

And then recruiting. That's how competitive these dudes are, by the way. Look, they're like 90 years old, these two guys. They've made like $700 million, these guys. They've won. They're still recruiting every fucking offseason, every single day. They're going in and coaching football every single day

and getting pissed off about other people doing stuff. Think about that competitive stamina. It's un-fucking-matched i think whenever it comes to football guys competitive stamina think about like guys like saban every day for the last what 55 years this dude has been just on the grind trying to find players trying to find the best possible way to get his points across to the players and what defense and offense you should run like this dude i don't know i don't know how guys like that do it jimbo as well like i love the jimbo so you're telling me there was not a press conference schedule no jimbo somehow tells the sid there a and m hey

i need a month does he just go then and what he just say i just i gotta get some things off my chest give me a mic tomorrow morning. I need it. Did you see what that fucking asshole said? Did you hear what he said? And the SID's like, well, we should prepare some remarks. I got my remarks. What, he thinks he's a god? Yeah, he's a czar.

Fucking skeletons in the closet. Yeah, I got all my notes, okay? And if somebody tries to ask me a question, I got shit to say, I'm going to make sure they don't get their fucking question out either at four or five different times bullshit there ain't no parody i was wondering is it bullshit he was just pumped to get in there and do it i'm i'm thankful for it and if you're jimbo fisher i guess that kind of knocks everything that you've ever done is how he's viewing it this is like a pete rose type situation in his eyes yeah this is one of those like hey you're trying to ruin my entire legacy. Is that why you're so pissed off?

Or is it just because that fucking hypocrite in Alabama, is that what it is? He probably, yeah, I'm sure just doesn't like what it sounds like from the outside of anybody. Like, oh, A&M's got the best class, but they bought all their recruits. People still look at it like old school way where, yeah, oh, you paid for those guys when it's illegal, when it sounds like at least at the time whatever they have been doing it's not technically illegal under the rules now it may become illegal i don't know that's

that's why it's great jimbo just calls the presser while he's still emotional and jumps in on it that's what i love they always take some time don't ever let your emotions creep in just let it die down a little bit jimbo's like now this is what i need to get in front of a camera yeah when i am juiced and ready to go i was so fresh on my mind so fresh in my mind and if we let this thing continue to boil and boil and boil people are going to think we're just cheating to be good we aren't cheating to be good we fucking turn this place around yeah but a lot of people are also saying just i don't want to cut you off connor that saban was that was a rally cry to the alabama boosters that saban was, that was a rally cry to the Alabama boosters. That Saban was saying that to like the Alabama boosters.

Like, hey, Texas A&M is being able to do this. How come we can't? So that's the angle I think that Alabama fans are trying to say. Saban wasn't trying to bury Jimbo, all right, real tight. He's trying to fucking rally our money people to let them know what everybody else is doing. It's like, well, it's hard to say that because everybody outside of alabama assumes you guys have been doing this yeah since the beginning i think it could be both could easily be both like he wants their boosters to step up i mean that's how a&m got jimbo right they had a giant contract they offered him i feel

like that's a big reason why he went yeah and a whole new facility i think they turned that whole thing what are we gonna say connor i mean i feel like this was the expectation coming in it's like when the quinn ewers thing year happened, it was like, oh, okay. A million bucks. Yeah. If he leaves Texas. If he leaves. Yeah.

If he left high school to go to Ohio State, he's going to get a million bucks. And, I mean, there was a kid in Texas who just signed an NIL deal with a Lamborghini dealership. Now, Texas, USC, and also our sources are telling us there is potentially a guy that signed a Lambeau deal in Clemson as well. Yeah, that's right. I mean, there is... The running back for Texas who was up for the Heisman last year

is the one who got the Lambeau deal. And by the way, I don't think these are through the school. No, probably not. These are their own business that they are kind of working. Oh, yeah, because they have agents now. Yes, everybody has agents.

So it's like, how do you know what came from an agent, what was offered by a school? Like, if the NCAA is going to try to punish this, I don't know how. I have no idea how you do regulate this. Especially going back. You can't go back on what you already opened up. I mean, what can you go moving forward from here?

I guess maybe have time restraints on when you can transfer. I don't know. It scares me to death about if they go back 10 months and just decide to punish somebody and make an example out of the school because West Virginia got that new quarterback out of Georgia. I don't know how that whole thing happened. Hopefully it was just good recruiting by Neil Brown. But if there was any promises made, right, WVU would be –

There's no way. They'd have to do it to – how many schools will they have to do that to? Well, that's what I'm saying. The NCAA never does that. They always just make an example out of somebody, don't they? That's kind of like the thing they do. They pick and choose. Hope it's not you.

Well, that's what I'm fucking... I am. That's what I am hoping. JT just wanted to go to West Virginia Mountain Mama. Take me home, he said. Graham Harrell. That makes sense. Boom. Graham Harrell brought him in there. Yeah. I mean, Caleb Williams I feel like is the guy that they'll look at because that one Charlie Batch...

Can't take out USC. No. And also... You gotta remember, like, this... What we were just saying, like, literally what we were just saying is, they, it's not fair. It would not be fair, but they do not have the manpower to investigate every situation. So they will certainly,

it feels like they will pick a couple and make examples out of them and say, hey, this is what happened. How do they pick and choose which ones to make an example out of? And how do they go back and say, hey, this is what happened. How do they pick and choose which ones to make an example out of? And how do they go back and say, like, we had a rule in here. You all broke it. Now you're done for for the next however many years.

Although other places are still allowed to pay their players. I don't understand what the difference is between setting up a signing during the season and saying $50,000 versus telling them, hey, if you come here, you'll get 50,000. And then here's 50,000 to come here. Like, I don't understand how they're going to be able to regulate that. How are they going to be able to change? It's going to have to be like your services somehow have to be used.

They got it. You got to go to do something. You have to use your name, image and likeness on a dealership or a commercial. Like, I'm sure it's just they're going to that's going to an easy one to say, hey, what did you do for this company? They gave you $50,000. What kind of value did you bring them? Well, they put my picture on their memo that they sent out to all their million people. Okay.

Good deal. That's something. What do they have to do? Just stop NIL? Put a pause on it and then have to figure out? But then they can't do that. No. They're not going to go back.

I don't think they're going to be able to go back and punish people. I think they can make rules moving forward. I just don't know how they go back. And USC at least can claim that Caleb Williams obviously just followed his coach from Oklahoma to USC. Yeah, that's the thing. How do you prove it? And he plays water polo. It's a big USC thing. It's a good callback. Thank you. A little fraudulent activity. that's been happening a long time to get people into schools and around schools. Are we going to investigate

how big of frauds and cons universities are? Handing out degrees that are worth a lot more than what you'll inevitably ever get paid for said degree and being crippling debt forever while they raise prices in the classes that you're going to, the knowledge that you're gaining, and the certificate that you're gaining and this certificate that you end up with

will never be worth enough to get you out of that hole for the rest of your life. Yeah. I mean, that's definitely never going to happen. So, but like to your point about the stuff that came before too, like with Caleb Williams,

like he's probably got all these other deals. I mean, he's like a beats ambassador and stuff like that. But is he getting that same thing if he's at Oklahoma still? Like probably is he, you know thing if he's at Oklahoma still? Like, probably. Is he, you know, because he went to USC, like, is the school helping set up some of these? Like, it just gets so messy. There's almost no way you can police.

Let's get to a break. In the second hour, we'll have Ruppert join us to talk a little hockey talk. A couple games last night. One game last night. Two. Two. Good ones. One was 9-6.

The battle of Berto was insane. Yeah, there was three goals in the first six shots on Mike Smith. He got yanked. Quick. This guy got yanked in like four minutes into the game. But he's their guy. Their next game, is he in? I mean, the other guy.

Probably up six goals. They don't really have any good options right now. They might be signing fucking King to Ming. Yeah, they might. They might be trying to King Domingue. Yeah, they might. Might be trying to get the Zambon driver. And then Rangers-Canes was overtime. Of course. 20,000 screaming Canahacks, brother.

That place is massive. 20,000 people in an arena. I don't think people understand how big that is. Is it just for hockey? Yes. Well, I think NC State used to play. They've been playing there since 1999, they said. Yeah.

I did not know that. Damn. That place has to be, I'm not saying it. Insane? Yeah, loud. Wolf Pack Men's Basketball. Uncomfortable, I'd say. Probably a pretty uncomfortable place.

Probably vastly different than these new arenas that have been updated. It's probably bench seating, that's why. Well, yeah, the upper bowl is probably like wooden benches. And everybody's just standing the entire time. Oh, yeah. Which, by the way, much better for the environment. Like the environment of the sport. 1999, not 1975.

Wooden benches. You never know. Dude, I went to a game at NC Stadium, North Carolina basketball. So uncomfortable. It's all, it wasn't even wooden. It's just, they just did the big concrete slabs that are kind of you know what i mean and just numbers on the front yeah that's where you're this area now you better get broad though if you want some space because there's gonna be i like those environments though that's what an arena is supposed to be like i think that's

why i like the kaniaks so much yeah and it probably is not a comfortable arena at all be uncomfortable yes i agree i concur completely the the stadiums and arenas are too comfortable too quiet a man who has revitalized that's hockey talk last night's episode was fantastic in ohio dude stanley cup champ mike rupper Cup champ, Mike Ruppert. What's up? I'll be honest with you. We still do a lot of fucking yelling in the mic still and just saying shit. I don't know how much has changed,

but I'm having a blast doing it, man. It's been a good time. I want to say this, though. You're talking about Nike and hockey. Nick, you know this. Gump, you know this. A lot of you guys may know this. One of their big guys when Nike made that push to get into hockey was Sergei Fedorov. Sergei Fedorov, if you guys get a chance to look it up,

he came out with white skates. All white and it was sick. Tongue down, so there's a style of wearing it. I don't know how it is in football, but there's a style. You got the big tongues on your boot. You fold them over. You fold the tongues over and it looks like an extra little sway or a little style to it.

Vetskin, right? Yeah, the white boots, and this guy was dancing. So I remember when I was playing in the Ontario Hockey League, I went to the trainer, and that was like the hot thing, right, the white skates. But you had to be a man to wear the white like it wasn't for everybody it was flashy and i went to the trainer and i'm like i want to wear can we order my i want to order these nikes these white ones he's like what like you can't wear those i'm like why he's like uh you're not a dangler like i want to wear the fucking skates and i was denied wearing the white Nikes because they were like a higher echelon of skill and I wasn't there.

But Nike had a big push. And but then they got bought up by Bauer. And Bauer is the biggest company in hockey right now. Well, they fell off because they wouldn't let Rupp wear their fucking skates. I mean, I know they're a successful company, but there's always going to be some flaws in their history. That is certainly one of them. Let Rupp skate. Let him skate.

Let me high step. I wanted a high step in the white boots. What's wrong with that? I don't understand. Imagine your big ox ass coming out with the fucking tongue flipped down, on the whites, flying around, hitting people, cheap shotting people. Now that we know how you like to play. He did a full demonstration last night on That's Hockey hey when somebody's skating like this all right where am i supposed

to hit him where am i supposed to hit him is what he did in the whole show i'm like in the fucking shoulder bro what are we even doing but you absolute stallion on the ice and you've been great for the show so we appreciate you you very, very, very much. Honestly, the connections, the booking, the chatter. I've learned a lot about hockey from listening to you. Now let's dive into a little bit of that now. Carolina, 20,000 people in that place since 1999. Is that place just outdated, old school? And do people just stand the entire time?

And is that the best environment in hockey? It feels like it is every time I tune into a game down there. You know, I don't know if it's the best environment, but it's up there. And it's one of the older buildings. So the acoustics are extremely loud. It's booming. Like you can have – when that crowd – I've been there in the playoffs before. And when there's a goal scored, literally the water bottle sitting on the bench starts shaking.

You know, and then the noise in the place, the music going, it's, it's an atmosphere and, and it's really cool too. And, and, uh, we talked about this before it's a, it's, it's, it's a big parking lot around it. Like it's in kind of the middle of nowhere down there in rally. It's not like in a city. So tailgate man, guys, you know, people go there hours and hours before barbecues, beers. Like it's a ruckus spot. But there's so many good spots in the league right now. But this is a really interesting series because I know you and a lot of other people want to see Carolina punt the New York Rangers out of the playoffs or what happened in the first round.

That is correct. That is correct. But, you know, it's funny. I don't know if you guys caught it. But, you know, it's funny. I don't know if you guys caught it. So the Carolinas team, they made it where nobody out of state can buy a ticket for the home games in Carolina. And maybe that's to keep the New York Rangers fans out of Carolinas home games.

So everyone's having a fucking conniption about it in New York. Like, are you kidding me? Blah, blah, blah, blah. So Bud Light steps up and has an awesome ad that they brought there the other day. And Bud Light's sitting there and they're like, you know what? Ranger fans, you go down there. I know you can't get in the arena. You let us know. We'll provide the beer.

You can be outside the arena. We're going to give you all the beer you want. So you can go in there and get free cases of beer. And it was the best comeback I've ever seen. Gumpy actually sent it earlier today. So they, you know, that's the response and Carolina's Twitter handle

is like one to follow in the National Hockey. They reply with, hey, you know what man, our water down here it's free. It comes out of drinking fountains. It's fine, just carving one life. Nice little feud going on here. Something to monitor. But this is a series.

It's going to be a good one. The Rangers played probably the better game in game one, but Carolina got it done, man. So it's going to be, I think it might be a long one there. Love Carolina. Can't have them bashing Bud Light, though. No, can't have them. And also, I don't like that Bud Light chose New York over Carolina.

I don't know how I feel about that either. A lot more people. Bigger either. A lot more people. Bigger market. A lot more people. Sorry, it's a refreshing pint. It's great beer, though, Caniacs. Fucking relax. You look out in that parking lot, I assume there's a bunch of

what? What? Being chugged out there before those games. But I don't like that Bud Light chose a side in that whole thing because now it's making us feel a certain way about it all because we're behind the Caniacs 100%. They get a why though you think why'd they get the win oh man they uh that playoff we saw it even in that first round and a bunch of different matchups we saw penguins rangers we saw it edmonton la uh what's another one toronto tampa like it's not always the team

that controlling the the pace of play that wins. New York Rangers, the first two periods were winning. They're dominant. They're controlling a lot of areas of the game. Carolina had this push in the third. It's like one of those things in hockey. If a team hangs

around and keeps it close, they're going to strike. They're going to tie it up. That's what Carolina did. They got an OT winner. The crazy thing is, the guy who gets it, Ian Cole, I forgot the guy even played still. Literally. That's the cool thing about it. The Ranger fans are like, really? Ian Cole

just beat us? That's the beautiful thing about it, man. It's like anybody can step up anytime and they took advantage. You got to put a team away when you can. The Rangers didn't do it. You're our hockey expert. You that's you didn't know gotta know jesus rupper wouldn't it be a good thing for the nhl if the rangers were able to make a run and win this thing i know players don't want their escrow money be bigger as well with rangers being a big market team oh i love i love that you brought that up because like when i played too so our escrow money and it's changed over the years but

you know the cba it's a 50 50 split between owners and players right so that hockey related revenue it's always there's projections and when you have certain things say covid and all those things that happen um you know whatever the circumstance is that you always get a a changing rate in escrow so i think escrow. So I think escrow, there's different times. There's times it's 18%. So 18% of your paycheck is going in escrow. And for the most part, you don't get it back. You know what I mean?

So it's a very touchy thing with players. So I remember even when I was playing and maybe in the playoffs, all players, you just fucking root for markets, man. You root for big markets. You're sitting there. You're like, I don't give a shit. Next round, if we have to play the New York Rangers and they're a much tougher matchup for us than playing against New Jersey Devils,

give me the New York Rangers because that's going to bring my escrow back in a favor. So, yeah, no, it's something you root for as far as I think the fans, the league. There's no – you're not going to do anything to change it. There's a lot of conspiracy theorists out there saying, oh, the fucking league wanted the Rangers to win because it's a bigger market than Pittsburgh. Get out of here. They're not messing around with the game like that. They're not doing that. They're not doing that.

But you're right, AJ. You're talking – I heard the numbers. This is kind of crazy. So you're talking – I heard the numbers. This is kind of crazy because you're talking. So this is just in the hockey world. So there's no – players don't get paid in the playoffs. So the playoff time is where the owners make the money, right? And different gate revenue is different for every team obviously.

And in the NHL, it's like the Rangers' gate that they'll make off one home game could be anywhere from like three to five million that they're going to net after a home game. But then you can get a team like New Jersey Devils, same kind of market, Metro New York, but different where they might only get like 500K, 750K. So the more those big market teams are in la kings you know chicago blackhawks uh that's that that's obviously good for everybody you guys don't get paid during the play what i'm in the nfl there is a pay cut for some guys and then it's a pay raise for some guys it's a it's an amount that everybody on the team makes vastly different than how the regular season payment goes. Everybody

makes, and if you end up winning the Super Bowl, I think it's like $130,000. Everybody ends up getting paid for that entire thing. And the lights go. It went down right there, right, Dave? What happened here? Not paying him in the playoffs. How's that work? So you guys make

no money in the playoffs? Just this escrow thing that happens, and that's where the money is hoping to come from? Like, is that your money is guaranteed, though? All the other contracts are guaranteed? And then there's been a boom. We're back. Bang. Yeah, so it's, you know, the contracts are guaranteed.

So that's the good thing about the contracts. Like, we have guaranteed contracts. So I don't know how you guys do it in football with getting cut, and I don't know all the logistics. They're not guaranteed. It's a big conversation. We do not have time for it right now. Yeah, it is.

Hockey has a very good deal where you can sign a massive deal and completely suck and still get paid. It's awesome. That is awesome. Yeah. Hell yeah. Good for whoever. You guys buried the team, killed the cap, but got fucking paid.

There you go. Yeah, you paid me, so you're going to keep paying me. But anyways, so the way it works is like, so the playoffs, you know, I don't know how many weeks it is that the pay is spread over bets. Your salary is spread over that. And in playoffs, there's no more paychecks. But you obviously have playoff bonuses, right? So there's a fund.

There's like a percentage that goes in in every team so there's like a threshold it's not it's not much until you win a cup or go to the final so it might be you might get a uh you know i don't know maybe it's i remember being like if you lose in the first round i think we got a check for like every player gets like six grand or something if you lose, if you make it to the second round, maybe that goes up to 15 and so on and so forth. But if you win a cup, it's probably like another, I don't know, 60, 70 grand. And then usually the team gives you a bonus as well. So, you know, that's kind of where it's at. But that's what I love about it, too, because it's like guys are risking their everything in the playoffs and

they're not getting paid and i fucking love it and that's just everybody wants to hoist that silver cup man i would like to motivate the boys a little bit with some cash a little bit maybe we get an nil deal next year for the pens uh before the boys have their questions here and obviously nine six last night in the game i mean that, that is awesome. Is that going to happen? Three goals and like six shots on the starting goalie. He gets yanked very early. Another six go in. Is that how that game is going to go?

Is that how that series is going to go? A lot of goals scoring up there, or the goalies just both shit the bed or all of them shit the bed last night? I mean, it shouldn't go that way. I mean, Calgary. That's a lot of fucking goals. That's a ton, man. That's a chomping goal. This was the funny part, too.

We were looking at it like it was 6-2, I think, with half the game left for Calgary, right? And on the other team, you've got Connor McDavid, Leon Dreissel. Both have won league MVPs. And you're like, I'm not convinced.

Let's take a dance over to FanDuel and see what they're giving on this. And I go over there. It's like, I don't even remember what it was. It was like plus 800 for Edmonton. And I'm like, all right, let's throw something on that. Like this team could do it. There's half a game left. I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

And I woke up to hearing a goal happen. And I look and it's fucking 6-6. I'm like, oh, my God, they did it. They did it. And then they ran off. Calgary ran off three more in a row to make it 9-6. But that's a series that if you're a casual fan, tune in. The Battle of Alberta, Calgary-Edmonton.

This goes back, I think, to the late 80s, like the last time they played in the playoffs. These two hate each other. It's a battle of that province. Great teams, a lot of skill, a lot of hatred. And we saw fucking 15 goals. 15 goals, and we're going to see more and more physical play. Milan Lucic, the big bitch out there in Calgary, was unbelievable, throwing his weight around in the game.

I have a feeling we're going to see some scraps. We're going to see some stuff. There was some trash talking at a very high level. That's a series that people want to tune into for sure. So fans hate each other in that one. Hate it. Hate it. How far is the travel time between the two?

Because province, obviously, a Canadian state. That's right. Alberta is one of those states. As is British Columbia and Quebec and Saskatchewan and Newfoundland. Yeah.

That's Hobart. Anyways, the Battle of Alberta. How far are they? Thank you. Yeah, we're big. We're champions of Canada. We fucking love Canada, Yeah, you know. We fucking love Canada, don't you know? So how far are they apart? And is there like a whole Carolina, New York thing?

Like they don't go to the games at the other places? Like soccer where there's actually, we're going to see some battles? Or is it all that meme or that video where they're just flipping each other off and each other's face from across the street back and forth to each other? Yeah, you know, it's, what would you say, Gump, you know probably better than me, I think that it's only, I think it's like a, I think it's only like 150 miles, isn't it? I don't think so.

No, I can't. It's a three-hour drive. Three-hour drive, okay. So yeah, it's close, it's close and the beauty of it too is like the fan bases out there, you're talking. This is oil, you know, this is oil country. This is agriculture. This is, like, some hard-nosed individuals, right?

So these fans love hockey. They grow up. Everybody plays. And they love physical hockey. So these two teams have no shortage of that. So, yeah, it's a battle. The fan bases can't stand each other, and it's absolutely incredible. And the other part about it, too, we talked about it on That's Hockey Talk last night.

Might have the most electrifying mascot in sports television out there in Calgary, Harvey the Hound. He's fucking unbelievable. Harvey the Hound. He's fucking unbelievable. Harvey the Hound? Better than Betty the Bull? Better than Betty the Bull? Harvey is ruthless. Ruthless, the stuff he does.

He's nuts. He talks shit to the other team's coach. We just watched the video last night. He was over the bench yelling at Edmonton. They were playing against Edmonton. Craig McTavish, an old Oilers legend who's won cups, was the head coach, and Harvey's over the, you know, shaking his head back and forth. He's got this long tongue that's like that long sticking out of his mouth,

and Craig McTavish grabs it and rips it right off of him, right out of the thing's mouth. A mask on the head coach getting into a fight. This guy's Harvey the Hound right there. He looks a little cracked out, but he's unbelievable, man. He's nuts. He's pretty similar to Benny. He gets on top of the plexiglass.

He was straddling the plexiglass, like riling the people up. Same mascot tree. Benny ain't never done that. Benny ain't never done that. Benny's done, dude. Yesterday we had Mike Vernon. We had Mike Vernon on NHL Network yesterday, and he was a goaltender, a great goaltender for Calgary, and we were talking about the mascot here, Harvey.

And he said one time during the game, there's a TV timeout, and Harvey got to the top of the section, and he put a surfboard at the top of the stairs, and he kind of like stood on top of it, and he was just like teetering at the top of the section and he put a surfboard at the top of the stairs and he kind of like stood on top of it and he was just like teetering at the top of the stairs like this. Everyone's like, whoa. And all of a sudden, Harvey just goes for it and just fucking boom.

Boom. Right down the stairs. Right into the glass. Boom. During the game. Here's the tongue getting ripped off. So yeah, it's during a timeout, and they said all the players are watching, and you don't see anything because he's down below the board. He said all of a sudden people are going nuts, and you see one paw kind of get up on the board, another paw,

and he pulls himself up, and everyone's like, yeah. So, hey, if you're into mascots, there's a good one there in Calgary. Harvey, is it the same person? Do Calgary. Is it the same person? Do we know if it's the same person this entire time? Did this person create Harvey the Hound? Like, this is my vision. This is what I'm going to do. A showman, by the way.

This is a fucking champion showman. Yeah, yeah. I mean, if that dude's still alive from the original one, from the shit he's done, I'm impressed, man. That guy, sign him up. Hey, Harvey the Hound. Yeah, shout out to Harvey. Just like Coach Sirian guy, sign him up. Hey, Harvey the Hound. Yeah, shout out to Harvey. Just like Coach Sirianni, we want dogs.

And Harvey the Hound sounds like he is an absolute dog of a mascot. The first mascot in the NHL, they say. Was he? I didn't even know that. No, we got Iceberg, the penguin. Iceberg's pretty good, too. That's cool. Iceberg does a lot of waddling. Iceberg will chomp your head.

He will. He's a big chomperhead. If Harvey's dead, Poopy's definitely looking for some work if they need another mascot. Just throwing it out there. Hey, who was, where were you guys, I remember seeing a video, didn't, was it Foxy? Who got eaten up by it? What was that? I don't remember seeing it.

That was Air Blue. That was Air Blue. Yeah, Blue, the Blue mascot here in Indianapolis is an incredible worker. I mean, he's at, like, school shows every single day. He has a lot of halftime performances. He does very well. He went to a mascot school, the person that created that mascot for the Colts and is currently that mascot.

Great athlete, obviously. But Air Blue is the one to beat the fuck out of fox with air blue and also i'm probably gonna go to a game next year smack him in the mouth get him payback oh air blue you wouldn't you'd be a little bitch i'm smacking him in the mouth just like last time you just sat there and just fucking air blue literally ate your shit yeah literally he literally literally It's a salt, brother. He ate your head off. Yeah, he did.

Ten times. How many times? He is triple. Big boy. Who isn't? Kind of hollow there. Yeah. Kind of hollow.

What's happening inside there, Evy? You don't want to know, AJ. Is he naked? Is he naked inside of there? Yeah. Is it certainly a heat?

Yeah, do we know that? I actually don't know. Is it naked? You guys are making the same mistake I made yesterday when I shouted out the aliens from another planet. I said, guys, could have been a sexist on their planet before we even meet. Think about that, what you guys just did.

I don't think they have sexes in the alien races. Well, we sent a dong and a thing up there, so they didn't know. They didn't know. Rob, did you see our conversation with the congressman yesterday about the aliens? No, I didn't know i know we got did you see our conversation with the uh congressman yesterday about the aliens no i didn't see it dude why should i go back and watch it yeah the clips are enough i think the clips would be enough there was a lot of filler in there we didn't learn much but he presented a new theory to me that i'm like oh who's he talking about

who's because he's been in intel with the marines right he's in the intel thing now house intel committee and he talked about time travel potentially being these tic-tac and all these alien ufo things we see maybe it's humans from the future coming back in time travel being figured out like 200 mile or 200 years from now i'm like so who fucking told you that right because if that's the case i mind, I almost lost my mind on the show yesterday. Rup almost, almost blew my fucking mind right here, pal. I don't know if I can handle that. Listen,

I grew up, I grew up being told that, uh, we never went to the moon. It was all done in a simulator. So that's all the shit that I was doing growing up. Rup, that's actually true.

No, it's not. So I, I, when I became an adult man, I realized that shit, we actually did this stuff. You know what I mean? So I'm not really.

You don't believe the slingshot? Yeah. Are you kidding me? Shut your fucking mouth. What? We just haven't gone back in the last 50 years? We had other shit to do. We already crushed it. And all the intel we need.

On to the next planet. What I saw the other day, too, was the boot. The different shredding on the bottom from the moon. Makes you think. Yeah, it was fucked up. Somebody else's boot probably. They looked at every person's boot that was there. How come nobody's talked about what's inside the moon?

What is inside there? Cheese, man. Spare ribs. Spare ribs. If the moon was barbecue, spare ribs. Who is that? Harry. Harry Carey.

Harry Carey. Well, it's not actually Harry Carey. Yeah, I know. Will Ferrell as Harry Carey. Harry Carey. I mean, that was quite a time. I'm tired. Question four.

The Stanley Cup chompy and rupper. Yeah, rupper. It looks like the Avs are fucking skating around with the ghost of Joe Sackick. Why do they look so good? Are they still the trendy pick to win the Stanley Cup? Or how we see the Avs going forward here? They're a juggernaut, man.

I don't know how someone's going to beat them. I actually picked St. Louis in this round, but for what we saw in game one, I mean, it went to overtime. We already talked about that, but it shouldn't have. I mean, there are so many scoring chances.

I mean, the Avs play this tempo that no one else plays. Like, they are just flying. Go, go, go. Their puck retrieval is like, it's like they'll take a shot on net. The puck will get deflected in the corner. They're the first one to get it in the corner, and they're right back at it again. Bang, bang, snap it around, shots. Bang, bang, snap it around, shots. Bang, bang, snap it around, shots.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing. They're going to be their own worst enemy. If they find a way to just get a little lackadaisical, not defend, or take some bad timely penalties, that'll kind of be their demise. But honestly, man,

it's going to be tough for someone to take that group out, especially in that Western Conference. I think this team has a pretty good path to the finals. Is Hawks Familia going to play or no? I'm sorry? Is Hawks Familia going to play or no? Jack Johnson. Oh, yeah, I got what you're saying.

Jack Johnson. Yeah, you know, here's the thing. That decor is like it's legitimately theCore I may have ever seen. Wow. They have – their starting six is absolutely incredible. They got Kael McCarr, who might be – some people think he might be the best player in hockey. He's not. This kid, you know, he's like –

Sidney Crosby. He's electrifying. Is he currently still in hockey or just in all of the league? Like still alive? Team still – Well, he's the best defenseman. He's the still in hockey or just in all of the league? Like still alive? Team still? Well, he's the best defenseman. He's the best defenseman a lot of people think. He's just an offensive juggernaut from the back end.

They've got Devon Taves. They've got Samuel Gerrard. They've got Eric Johnson. Josh Manson was their big free agent acquisition at the trade deadline. And then even when you go past that, they got, I think, Ryan Murray, and then they got Jack Johnson. They've got reserves here, too. They're bona fide, legitimate, veteran NHL defensemen. So these guys are running like, to win a cup, you've got to have at least

eight quality NHL defensemen, sometimes more. These guys are running with probably the best top six in the league, and they're running 10, 11 deep of NHL defensemen. So they're absolutely loaded. I shook Jack's hand at an Ohio State cult event, and he's got massive mitts. I mean, that was a stiff shake in a massive mitt. I assume he's an absolute weapon.

Can't wait to see what the Avalanche are doing. Good for your house, Hawk. Good for the Hawk house. AJ, I don't mean to jinx it, but if there's a cup celebration, you start to think about what you want to do. What are you going to eat or drink out of the cup?

Don't say it now. Get that going. Can I weasel my way into that? He lives next door. I didn't think about that,'t say it now. Oh, shit. Get that going. Can I weasel my way into that? Can I weasel – He lives next door. I didn't think about that, Ruffer. Thank you. Yeah.

Keep thinking about that, man. We're on the abs now, lads. We're on the abs. Yeah. Here we go. Am I able to sneak my way into that Stanley Cup celebration over there at that cult household you got over there? You talking to me?

I'm talking to you, yeah. I mean, yeah. I assume if the – Boys, we're down to the cup. Let's go. Yeah. there at that cult household you got over there you talking to me i'm talking to you yeah i mean yeah i assume if the to the cup boys we're going to the cup we're lifting the cup boys that is amazing news i'm so we're taking it in aj's pool let's go yeah let's go abs uh connor your question yeah robert the fucking maple leafs are completely jinxed so they're gonna blow that whole entire thing up because toronto gonna win a fucking playoff series if Gretzky was on the goddamn team. Here's the thing.

That team in Toronto, first off, did you guys see Mitch Marner getting carjacked? Yeah. Tough way to end the season. What is that, a day or two after the season ends, him and his fiance are out at the movie theater. They come out, he's getting into his rover, and three dudes walk up to him,

two with guns and one with a knife. And he's like, take it. Like, dude, the guy just got eliminated from the playoffs. What city? Everyone has to take their team down. Toronto. Toronto. They're nuts, man.

They fucking freak out. Thankfully, he's all right. But that team is like, they have had this story where they have meltdowns. They've had 3-1 series leads that they've lost in game seven. They've been in game seven. They were up 3-0 in the game, and they ended up losing. Boston Bruins. You know this, Connor.

The Boston Bruins are their kryptonite. The first round, quite frankly, has been their kryptonite. So here they are this season. The Toronto Maple Leafs have been awesome. Awesome Matthews, 60-goal score. They look like they're going to be different. The draw they get in the playoffs is the back-to-back Stanley Cup champions in town.

What a bad luck. Sorry about it. It's just a kick in the gut getting that kind of draw. And so they go in there, and they were the better team in the series, but they didn't find a way to win. They didn't find ways to manage games. That veteran squad who's been winning down there in Tampa did.

They move on. So it's like the big question is, this was supposed to be the last gasp with this group to go on a run. It didn't happen. But how much you chalk that up to, this team might win a third stanley cup in a row that we lost to so how do we do we build uh do we build off of this or do we blow it up uh they sound like they're running it back with the same gm and same coach so for me i think that's a pretty

good indication i'm going to try this group one more time go ahead pal yeah ropper we had uh we had timmy peel on the other day he was. He said you were a real beaut to deal with on the ice. I was thinking, though, do guys or have you ever accidentally, you know, went to dump a puck in and fucking accidentally aimed it right at a ref's head? Sniped a ref? I mean, I haven't done it. Guys have done it, though. Yeah, there's times.

You know, it's funny, though. Those guys have a very, in all sports, unforgiving job, man. It's like there's times. So the big thing for a winger in my defensive zone, you got the blue line, the defenseman on the other team is always trying to hold the puck inside the blue line. I have one job. That puck has to get outside the blue line because if it gets outside the blue line, you know everyone else on their team has got to tag up.

So it gets you. You get to let some of the pressure out of the balloon and kind of get going. Ideally, I want to pass it to my teammate and come out with speed and go on the offense. But sometimes you don't have that play. Sometimes you've got to use the glass. Go off the glass. Chip it off the boards and get it out. The guys in stripes, there's nowhere for them to hide out there.

They're trying to stay out of the way. And there's times where you're out there. I might be out there for a minute 15, which is like a long shift. I'm buckled. I'm straight-legging it. The lactic acid's built up. You feel like shit. I get this puck on my stick, and I go to chip it,

and the fucking referee's standing there, and it hits him off the leg and stays in the zone. You can't even breathe. And you're like, get the fuck out of the way. You're just screaming at these guys and these guys like they don't want like they don't want to be the difference either way you know and they're like what do you want me to do like you know i've seen guys i've seen guys in uh in front of the bench where you know there's no glass and a play's coming and he knows the guys want to use the

board to dump it in i've seen referees so anxious to jump out of the way that they've used the boards, pushed themselves up, and jumped up, and they landed in our lap on the bench. That's awesome. That a boy. Give him a little pat and let's go. But, yeah, man, I never did that. I never intentionally did, but trust me, I know plenty of situations where guys didn't get good calls, they're going to dump the puck in,

and they're giving an ankle burner right off the referee. That would hurt so bad. So bad that would hurt. And those refs are like 50 years old, 45 years old, 50 years old. It's unbelievable what the hockey refs are able to do. And the amount of, like, flow of the game that they care about, it feels like they're actually players, you know. I think that is why I have the most amount of respect for the NHL refs.

Even though they're not perfect, I have a lot of respect for the way they operate games. It sounds like you guys feel the same way, players? Yeah. No, in the heat of the moment, you don't. You get caught up in it. Yeah. And we talked about that before with some of the run-ins. But their situation, I've always been a big component.

And I didn't do it to get calls. I did it because in my situation if I have to drop the gloves and these linesmen that come in there they got to know when to come in when the right time is and there's times where your jersey comes completely over your head and it's it sucks like you're playing the lottery you're hoping this guy doesn't tag you when the jersey comes over your head you want these linesmen to come in you're fighting blind and uh so there's certain situations when a fight turns against you where the refs will be like, all right, and then they come break it up. But it's also, it's funny,

I had one situation where there was a guy on the other team that didn't show refs respect. You know, hi, how are you doing? How's the family? How's the kids? You know, blah, blah, blah. Oh, yeah, you know, and you just have a relationship with them and it it paid off in different times where guys would come in a little early when they saw me be in a bad spot you know and but i had this i had this one time when i was fighting or getting into it uh with somebody who did not respect the refs and uh one of the refs uh one of the refs uh said to me afterwards he was bringing me over to the penalty box. He goes, do you like that? I go, what?

He goes, I let you get an extra shot in on that one. Yeah, there you go. I'm like, yeah, that's why you're the best. So you've got to keep your refs the right way. Yeah, dapping up a ref on the way into the penalty box. People would be so upset with you nowadays if that happened in the middle of this social media world. It would be insane. We appreciate you, Rupert. You've been amazing for us this season man even

though it's over it's been amazing no no don't say that harvey the hound is doing his shit we got great hey let me just tag it with this casual hockey fans we got unbelievable matchups the battle of florida tampa florida panthers we've got st louis colorado barnburner the battle of alberta out there. And hey, this could be, maybe all of us will get invited to AJ's cup party. Yeah, let's go! Hockey's not dead, let's go.

Hockey is not dead, but the Abs lose, it's fucking dead. Alright? Thank you so much ladies and gentlemen, Mike Rupp. Yeah, Ruppers! Joining us via facetime a man who is paired alongside jordan poyer for the best safety duo in the nfl a buffalo bills staple an absolute stud and a man that had a charity softball game on Sunday that raised money for the survivors and for the community of Buffalo after the heinous act at the grocery store.

Good dude, great player. Ladies and gentlemen, Micah Haas. Hey, what's going on, man? How are you? I'm good, man. Just hanging out. Just got done with a workout. What's up, Hawk, man? How you you? I'm good, man. Just hanging out. Just got done with a workout. What's up, Hawk, man?

How you doing? Micah, are you actually taking part in all your OTAs and everything? Or now that you're a savvy vet and you've done it all, can you hang out at home and not do as much? You know, I was there last week working out with the guy, putting up to a softball game and all that. And then I got back out here to see the family. The family didn't come with me, so I'm back out here with them out in San Diego.

What year, Micah, going into? Going into year 10. Wow. Big year. It's wild to think. It's wild to think already year 10. I remember rookie year like it was yesterday. Going up

to Green Bay and seeing Hawk in the locker room and being like, what the hell am I doing here? What was he like as a teammate, you think, earlier? Was he one of the ones bullying people? Was he obviously a rude person in the locker room? Nah, nah, he was cool, man. He was cool. He was a lot of, you know, helped me out a lot on the field,

just seeing things. And I was a nickel back then, so me and him were working out, you know, a lot on the field, talking, communicating. So, you know, Hulk made be a better player for sure. Hey, baby, AJ. Wow. I told Mike all the time, and Mike, I told you at the old Takatari wedding, like, Micah came in day one ready to roll.

Like, the dude was squared away, ready to play. And I obviously say, well, yeah, you're from Ohio, Micah. Of course you come in ready. And he just said, yeah, co-sign. I didn't know you're an Ohio guy. You're an Ohio guy? Ohio guy, baby. Come on now.

Oh, jeez. We have too much of that area. Hold on. We'll call you back. Let's call him back. Let's get a better connection with Micah. He's an Ohio guy. Where did he go to school?

Fostoria, I think. That was the high school. I don't know if that's a city in Ohio as well. I assume it is. And then he went to Iowa. Yeah, so I just assumed, right? He was from Iowa. Yeah, I just assumed.

Because if he's from Ohio and he's good enough to go to Iowa, why didn't he go to Ohio State? I believe he was only like a two-star prospect coming out of high school. He was like a quarterback. He was like a quarterback slash DB, though. I think he was playing a lot of quarterback. Micah, we were just talking about your recruiting process. I didn't know you were from Ohio because I would assume if you were good enough

to go to Iowa, you would have went to Ohio State. But now we're learning a lot about you. Not expected to be as great as you have become, a 10-year NFL vet. Nobody said that in high school about you? No, I wanted to go to a great rivalry of Ohio State or Michigan. I'm closer to Michigan, actually, about an hour and a half, and about two hours from Columbus, and they didn't want me, so I took my talents to Iowa.

So now it feels like you have found a home in Buffalo, though. And obviously the charity softball game this past Sunday, raising money, spur of the moment. I believe the money was supposed to be going somewhere else, made a decision amongst a lot of people, like, hey, we should at least give back to the community here after the heinous shooting that, I mean, there was a video out there for a bit. I assume these types of humans are going to exist forever. We cannot allow them to continue to tear us apart after they do their heinous act. But you guys have really stepped up to the plate. The Buffalo

Bills have the Buffalo Together Fund that's up over a million dollars that will be given back to the community of Buffalo. I believe the NFL Foundation matched the Bills donation, your softball game. It feels like, and you can help by going to GoFundMe and finding the Buffalo Survivors Fund. If you want to get in and help the Buffalo Bills and all of Buffalo, give back to the community that was attacked this past weekend. But it feels like your team is so perfect for the city of Buffalo. Josh Allen feels like the right quarterback for Bills Mafia. The defense, no pro bowlers, right? No pro bowlers, no respect, absolute studs across there.

It just feels like perfect match between the team and the city. Do you feel it that way? And how quickly do you think everybody in that Bills locker room was like, we have to help our community? Well, I mean, I think it was right away. I think we were all shocked, you know, what went down. You know, we all kind of felt, I think the same thing, fans included, kind of felt bad, you know, going into the softball game,

knowing we were going to have a good time and be celebrating and laughing and all that. So, you know, we knew that, you know, if we can put some smiles on the face of the community and, you know, generate some money to go back to the victims and, you know, at least take their minds away from a couple of hours. And, you know, I think we're close to, we're going to be close to $100,000 raising for... Hey, let's go! Hey, that's good work!

Yeah, so, you know, it's pretty awesome to just get out there and have fun in front of the crowd, but, you know, this team and, you know, what Bean and Sean have been able to build since 2017 has just been amazing. Bringing in Josh, obviously, you know, freak athlete. You saw him hitting bombs

at the softball game. You know, can do it all and a perfect leader for this football team. And just a lot of the guys in the locker room just really care about the community. And, you know, those mafia shows love to us, so, you know, why not show love back? Was Josh Allen hitting bombs like that all day long? It looked like a walk-off to maybe end at the one that we watched. We talked about this on the show. Didn't even look.

This was amazing. Did he hit multiple bombs like this? Yeah, well, that was to win the home that we watched. We talked about this on the show. Didn't even look. This was amazing. Did he hit multiple bombs like this? Yeah, well, that was to win the home run derby. And, yeah, he hit a few bombs in the game too. But, you know, I take pride. AJ, you know, it doesn't matter what the sport is. We can play chess. We can play checkers, whatever.

I'm a competitive. But Josh, he's one of a kind, man. He's definitely like that too. You put him on a golf course, you put him on the basketball court, you know, obviously the diamond. Football field, he's going to be one of the best. And that's why I really think he's one of the best in the league and he's perfect for our football team.

Well, he's 6'5", 230. He has the ability to run. How much better he has gotten each offseason from outside looking in and every other building. They're like, well, we hope our quarterback does what Josh Allen does. This could be the next Josh Allen. But what you talked about with Bean and McDermott almost being like a steady culture, like, hey, we're going gonna allow him to get better we're

gonna continue to empower him it feels like all the pieces are really coming together for you guys now I have to ask because you know I mean it is how the season ended you have to hate that conversation huh like AJ Hawk whenever they talk about changing the overtime rules where like you know it continues to go AJ and every defensive person that we've had on that represents the NFL is like, no, get a fucking stop. Like it should be, we're a part of the team as well. Like this should be a thing. Why are we changing this?

Obviously the season didn't end the way, you know, anybody would have wanted in Buffalo, but how miserable has it been to have to relive that every fucking week? It feels like with the conversation? How excited are you to get back out onto the field next season as the Super Bowl favorites? Yeah, you know, obviously Super Bowl favorites, I could care less about that. You've got to put in the work each and every week to go out there

and, you know, make it to February. Hell yeah. But definitely, you know, hearing about the overtime stuff, I'm definitely over it too. You know, it is what it is. You know, we lost. They won. You know, we could have defensively, you know, we could have went out there and tried to get a stop

and made a stop to give our offense the ball back. So, yeah, I'm definitely tired of hearing about it. And I care a lot about changes and all that. You know, I just think we need to go out there and get a stop. You guys are the Super Bowl favorites, which is different. You know, a few years this wasn't the thing. Now you guys have the targets on your back. The AFC East getting better.

You know, McDaniel and the Miami Dolphins are investing a lot. Tyreek Hill is coming into the AFC East. Up in New England, I think Bill Belichick's offense coordinator, defense coordinator, special teams coordinator is doing everything. They're going to have a good squad. Obviously, Mack, young guy doing his thing. How do you guys take the next step? What is it?

What do you think this offseason's kind of mindset is? What do you think will take you guys to where ultimately everybody thinks you guys are headed to? Well, we understand it's going to be a process. It's going to be a process week by week. Each and every week in the NFL is a challenge. week by week, each and every week in the NFL is a challenge. You face some amazing offensive coordinators that can call a hell of a game.

You play amazing quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, whoever it may be, each and every week. So we understand that. And like I said, Super Bowl favorites means nothing to us. We've got a great division. Everyone's getting better. We have to bring our A game each and every week. I said the other day on the Jim Rome show, I think

it's apparent we're not going to go undefeated. I think it's safe to say we're going to take some hits. As long as we learn from those hits and keep pushing, that's pretty much Sean's message every year. Just trust the process and keep going that's awesome hey micah how much i guess nicer would your football life be if say the nfl went back to like old school rules like say mid 80s when you watch those safeties just decapitate people play in

and play out like how different would your life be and how much easier would it be defensively if that was still allowed? Yeah, it would definitely be easier. You know, I think that, you know, in today's NFL, obviously, they want to see a lot of points and they want to see touchdowns. And, you know, it's offense again. As long as you understand that, you know, you kind of go out there and try to play fast. And, you know, as far as getting fine and stuff, it's going to happen. It's inevitable. You know, they're finding defensive players left and right.

So you just got to go out there and not really think about it. And, you know, if you do think about it, I think that's where injuries come in. So just push to the back of your head and keep going. Was that something that was tough to transition? Because you, 10 years, you're kind of OG. You were almost before the full strike zone transition, especially for guys over the middle, defensive players. You didn't grow up in this heads-up strike zone transition, especially for guys over the middle, defenseless players. You didn't grow up in this heads-up strike zone football that most of the league now,

younger guys, kind of have grown up in this is how you hit as opposed to how you were probably taught to tackle, especially in Ohio. I mean, I couldn't even imagine how they were teaching people to tackle in Ohio when you were a kid, if it's anything like what that fucking maniac over there was taught. But how was that transition? Is it hard to do that? Because I think some people were not able to transition and continue to have as much success as you have been able to do

with the hitting and the timing and where your head is at 20 miles an hour. All of that seems like impossible to me. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's difficult. It definitely is, you know, especially when the ball is over the middle, it's a bang, bang play. You try to even make a play sometimes you get your head in there. You know, I've been fined a few times on some plays where I'm just I totally disagree with. But like I said, it's the NFL today. That's it is what it is.

You know, you can always appeal it. I try to appeal. It doesn't always go my way. But at the end of the day, I'm going to try to go out there and make some plays for my football team. And if, you know, if I get fined then, you know, you just got to keep going. Hey, you and Porter bring the wood. Oh, yeah. You two feel good about it too, right? I mean, that is something you guys take a lot of pride in, I assume? You got to be a little crazy playing defense in the NFL, man,

especially safety, linebacker. You got to be a little – you got to have some screws loose up there. So, you know, when you're on that football field it's kill or be killed so you gotta go out there and make plays that's what AJ's it seems like this is the Ohio thing yeah well if somebody's

gonna have to die to get out of here well it's not gonna be me that is what AJ said his mindset was when he played football which by the way I think in a lot of physical sports that is sometimes what has to get you through and football will always be physical no matter how much they soften the rules it is still a violent sport and whenever a big hit brings any stadium to its feet though you know like i know that they're going to try to change it for the future but when you or you know mr port hit somebody like perfectly and just absolutely destroy and places go bananas and they always will by the way no matter how much more research comes out or science comes out

that's what it's all about i think that's why people like the bill so much you guys are a fucking cool team to root for like If you have a lot of swag, it seems like you guys are young, even though you're 10 years into this thing, but young, confident. The way the season ended last year, everybody thinks you got screwed. You guys are a very, very fun team. Are you as close

behind closed doors as it appears whenever you're kind of watching you guys operate from outside? Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know, I think once you play in somewhere like Buffalo and Green Bay, you know, those small towns, there's really nothing to do but football, especially during the season. You know, so when it's during the season, we're at the complex, man.

We're just sticking around, hanging out. A lot of us have been together. You know, this is going on our sixth year year so we know each other in and out you know it seems like we're went through you know like college program together so yeah we are tight you know defensively we hang out you know we have our dinners during the season we get to know each other so you know I just I love the football team that I'm on I love the organization yeah I said, I think we're moving in the right direction, but we understand that, you know, it's going to be a process this season, and a lot of people have high hopes for us, but, you know,

we can't really listen to that. We've got to just, you know, play our game and try to get better each and every week. All right, well, don't listen. I've got high hopes, man. You know what I mean? I'm very excited for you guys. Go ahead, AJ.

Your coach, Sean McDermott, he seems like a guy that would love to watch you guys run your heads into each other for a while during training camp. Seems like a guy that wants to win the physical battle. What's your camp practice like? I may be completely wrong, but I'm sure he's smart about it. But I would imagine there may be some physicality in there. Yeah, yeah, he's a PA guy. He's a wrestler.

So, you know, he has that kind of wrestle that you know cauliflower ear mentality um you know and he uh he wants to be physical football he wants to see us um you know tackling well and and and you know the the guys up front winning the line of scrimmage so um you know obviously practices are like that during training camp but at the same time, he knows his football team. He knows how to ease up on it, you know, take care of us. So, you know, it's just he's the perfect head coach for us in Buffalo. Yeah.

Pennsylvania guy. Yeah. Of course. Cauliflower. Who do you call? You call a Pennsylvania guy. You know what I mean? You got a bunch of Ohio guys running around.

You call a Pennsylvania guy, try to wrangle the crew a little bit, get them in there. What a team up there. Sal, you got fans going through tables and getting hammered drunk. You got blizzards potentially for half of the season. You got electrifying offense, hard-hitting – no pro bowlers. No pro bowlers. Hard-hitting defense.

I mean, you guys are must-watch television. I'm so excited for you guys. defense i mean you guys are must watch television i'm so excited for you guys high hopes for you guys don't listen to me micah go ahead ty micah aj mentioned how you were just ready to go when you first came into the league i'm an iowa guy as well and it seems like since your freshman year there i was produced a shitload of guys at d-back that have gone into the league how much of that was like you just being ready, and how much of that was Iowa preparing you to go into the league? Well, I think that Iowa is an NFL program. Hell yeah.

Fresh out of high school. You know, you've been your freshman year, and Coach Ferentz and I had, you know, lucky enough, I had Coach Parker as my position coach back then, so I i saw him all day every day he just he gets they get you ready for the nfl um and they understand you know the whole process of putting on weight and you know getting better and better each and every year and so you know your your freshman year all the way to your senior year you should be playing good football and you're gonna have a shot at the nfl so um you know i guess going to iowa was definitely a cheat code. That's why they produced so many NFL players.

Coach Ferentz gets you ready. That's a recruiting pitch. Print the t-shirts, baby. Let's go. Going to Iowa is a cheat code? Hell yeah. I love hearing that. That is a slogan right there. Well, you know.

What are you guys going to do? You guys going to win 6-7 games next year playing the Outback Bowl? No, no. At least ten. Eight to ten every year. Hey, this guy, big-time Iowa fan. He was just saying the other day, well, can't wait until we win seven, eight games, go to the Outback Bowl. Yep.

After the Iowa basketball team got bumped earlier. That was the misery. That's the ride of the Iowa Hawkeyes, I guess. Go ahead, Micah. That one still hurts. That basketball still hurts. Let's not talk about that one. He knows. That's the ride of the Iowa Hawkeyes, I guess. Go ahead, Micah. That one still hurts. That basketball hurts. Let's not talk about that one.

He knows. Hey, they were a good team. Hey. They were a very good team. God, who was the guy there? Keegan Murray. God, he's a player. He's gone. Dude, he fucking lost early, like first game.

First run. People were talking about last year's team, like you can't fucking lose that early. then this year was like we got you we'll go earlier yeah it's supposed to go to final four oh my god that's unbelievable sorry west virginia has it you know we weren't even invited to the nit go ahead connor jesus mike you guys drafted a db in the first round with elam have you been able to talk to him did you you see him last week? And how pumped were you to add to the secondary? No, so I haven't met him yet. Bad vet! Bad vet!

Terrible veteran! Terrible! I'm going to tell you right away, I'm a face-to-face type of person. I'm not going to come up on social media and do all that type of stuff. I'm going to hit him up face-to-face, and I'm going to have eye contact and talk to them, get to know the kids for who he is and all that. So I'm waiting for that moment. So you can call me a bad vet if you want to, but that's kind of how I am. But, no, I'm excited.

I'm excited being added to this secondary that was already making plays, to have a guy come in that's eager to learn, eager to get better and make this team better, make the secondary better. I'm excited for him. And just talking to Tredavis and stuff about him, the kid has a good head on his shoulders. So I'm excited to see what he can do. Darius Butler told us, and he's obviously transitioned into the media world, and I think he's been watching a lot of film and trying to study teams' trends and stuff.

In the modern NFL, you need like six or seven – how many do you say? Seven? Six or seven. Six or seven DBs that are like good in the modern NFL with the way offenses are. Do you see that in the game changing? Like is DB becoming a much more important role in the defenses than it maybe was five, ten years ago? Yeah, and you need DBs that can play all positions.

And I think that's why we excel so much on our defense is because if a safety can play basically in the box or play nickel or sometimes even play outside, it's only going to make your team better. And our nickels can do the same thing. And sometimes our corners are put inside in the slot and have to do run fits and stuff like that too. So the more DBs you can have that can play ball,

that can play different positions, that can communicate, that can work together, you're going to have a better defense. Have offenses changed mightily since the beginning of your NFL time until now because they're wide open right now. It feels like scheme and strategy means so much more than maybe individual. He can't hear us. Oh, no. Is this on?

You got me? We talked to a congressman about aliens yesterday. This isn't your fault. It's definitely our fault. They're cracking down. Son of a bitch. They're cracking down on that thing. He said something.

Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. Oh, help. Yeah, we'll call you back. Hope everybody got a good laugh whenever he got his shots in. Yeah. You're a medic. What shots are you talking about?

Nah, listen, AJ. You were like, any more? Keep going. Yeah. What do you do? We don't get a congressman on very often. Hey, that was a great conversation yesterday, man. That was a really good conversation.

He's your president. He was pretty square. I think I said yesterday, he looks like he's in the job he's supposed to be doing. And the words per minute that he had as a Marine, I think is just conversation piece. That should

be Chaliba. He also went to Princeton, I believe, that guy. If I learn more about him afterwards, then I probably should have done that work beforehand. But that's kind of how the show goes. Joining us back again, ladies and gentlemen, from Great Signal area on our end, Micah Hyde.

Hey! Oh, no! Oh, no. We'll have to have you back on again. Oh, no, Micah. You're 10 years in the NFL. I gotta pay more money in a month for my wife, I guess. Well, have the success that you had.

We will let you get back to your training, to your offseason. Enjoy the hell out of it. We appreciate you for joining us. We appreciate your work for the city of Buffalo alongside the Buffalo Bills and the NFL Foundation. Obviously, not a cool thing, but the way you guys rallied is awesome. Whenever you see a pillar in a city do what you would hope that a pillar in a city would do in a situation like that, you have to applaud it.

Ladies and gentlemen, safety for the Buffalo Bills, Micah Hyde. Yeah, Micah! I like Micah Hyde a lot. He's a really good guy. You think Vaughn's invited him to the cowboy party, summer cowboy party yet? Isn't that Halloween? Is it summer? Is it Halloween?

I think he has a Halloween party. Is he just dressed as a cowboy? He always dresses like a cowboy. He is a cowboy. He hasn't done that for years. He's a chicken farmer, right? Yeah, came from a chicken farm. Yeah, A&M, yeah.

Good football program. Has Saban answered? saban answered jimbo fisher saying why don't you fucking look into your god see what adam and eve were actually fucking doing when he created this whole goddamn thing go ahead and look into a little czar go ahead and do that go ahead and fucking do it when there was parody right back in the day sure greatest ever you fucking this piece of shit j Jimbo Fisher basically said this morning at a press conference that he called to answer Nick Saban calling him out for paying every one of his recruits the number one recruiting class in America.

Ask for anyone who coached with him. They'll tell you. Despicable. Can we run that God one one more time? He said, I'm done. When he said, I'm done, like, okay, he's out of your life? He's called me. He's fucking called me.

You think Jimbo Fisher answered Nick Saban anymore? Fucking Jimbo, no. Ronnette? Some people think they're God. Okay. Go dig into how God did his deal. You may find out about a guy that a lot of things you don't want to know. We built him up to be the czar of football.

Go dig into his past or anybody that's ever coached with him. You can find out anything you want to find out. What he does and how he does it. It's despicable. It's despicable, dude. Dig it up. Why hasn't it come out yet, then? Because nobody's grabbed the shovel. You know? And it's Bama. Somebody grab a shovel and start digging is what Jimbo

is saying. The end's all over the place. Go ahead and grab a shovel. A couple of them. You get two. You soon be a little bigger. Dive into that motherfucker. He ain't doing it. Run that other one, too, where end's all over the place. Go ahead and fucking grab a shovel. A couple of them. You get two. It's going to be a little bigger. Dive into that motherfucker. He ain't doing it. Okay, run that other one, too, where he's saying, where he's like, he called me. I didn't fucking answer.

I didn't fucking answer. Not me. I'm done. I'm fucking done. Fuck that guy. We used to be friends. Any contact with Nick Simpson? Oh, he's called.

He's called. Fuck him. You just didn't take the call? Not going to. We're done. Fuck him. He shows called. Fuck him. You just didn't take the call? Not going to. We're done. Fuck him. He shows you who he is. And then I just wanted to –

He's the greatest ever, huh? Is that what? Shut up, you got all the advantages. It's easy. And I just wanted to – That guy really wanted to get it in. Yeah, and then he couldn't even fucking remember the question when he finally got to talk. Well, there's so much good shit coming out of the coach's mouth. I mean, then he couldn't even fucking remember the question when he finally got to talk well there's so much good shit

coming out of the coach's mouth I mean you can see how he can forget the question that he wanted whenever Jimbo was like I am nowhere near done on this roast right now oh he's grace ever huh fucking huh when there's parody huh all the advantages yeah do the parody one now do that last minute I mean Jimbo is

fucking awesome how long was this because I've only seen these three clips I mean, Jimbo is fucking awesome. How long was this? Ten minutes, I think. I've only seen these three clips. And if the whole thing is like these three clips, we need to talk about maybe one of the greatest promos in the history of college football. Run this. And the operations, the way things were done the other way, when the parody was there, like we said, never has been parody.

Oh. Certain people never followed the rules anyway. Oh. Whoa. Certain people never followed the rules anyway. Oh. Are you suggesting? No, I didn't say that. It's a misstatement. Next question. I fucking love it.

What will tomorrow hold? He's attacking him as a person, as a human being. It's almost like he's insinuating 1987. He shot a redshirt sophomore in the head, killed him, buried him. Look it up. He found it. 1991.

Quitting manager. Didn't have the right jugs machine. You thought Brian Kelly was the first guy to do that. Murdered him. How do you know, Jimbo? Still have the shovel. Thank you, Zeke. What will tomorrow hold in this beef that is certainly being handled on phone calls right now

and everybody in their life is saying, you have to stop this. This has to be and remain a private thing. You got your shot in. You got your answer in. We will not let this continue. Alabama is saying that. Texas A&M is saying that. Their families are saying that. Their friends

are saying that. Their fellow coaches are saying that. That's why if Saban calls another press conference and goes, nope, fuck it. This Jimbo Fisher guy is a bigger piece of shit than I am. That would be the greatest thing for college. CBS may have him do that. I would imagine CBS is carrying the game when they

play, right? What. What's his name? The Troy? Vern? Yeah. Vern Longless. Vern Longless. He doesn't do it, though. Rest in peace, Vern Troy.

Gary Davidson. Oh, yeah. Mini-me? Yes. He was on Celebrity something I saw. Rehab, yeah. He's really drunk. But that's why he was there, I guess.

Well, I think he was there Because he was a celebrity And that was also appealing But I assume he signed up In the middle of one of those Drunken Yeah

Fucking Got all drunk And pissed all over the house Like a dog Yeah Rolled around the whole place He was on that He was on that

Power scooter He was peeing while Driving that thing. I'm going to go back and watch some clips. Anyways. Wait, he's dead? Let's have a moment of silence. Was he a good guy?

What happened? Good enough. Worthy of a moment of silence? He got better at the end. We did a moment of silence for Screech. We didn't do one. Everyone is. I mean, we did a motor science for Screech. That's uncalled for. Well, Screech, we didn't do one. We didn't? No.

No. We talked about his death, but we did not stop the whole show and have a little silence for Dustin. Mario Lopez would never come on here if we did that. No. Oh, Mario Lopez also. What did he do? Dig him up.

He's in a. Wait, what did he do now? Whoa, whoa, whoa. He's like America's sweetheart now. He's in every hotel room. Yeah, he was America's sweetheart. Wait, what did he do now? He's like America's sweetheart now. He's in every hotel room. He was America's sweetheart. Wait, what happened now? How do I not know this?

He saved Jackie's life when Zach Morris gave her those fucking speed pills. Caffeine pills. They weren't speed, actually. Still safer. They did have an immense amount of caffeine, like two coffee cups per pill. Her name was Jessie, not Jackie. The disrespect. Fucking asshole.

Come on, Tony. You know me. The disrespect. Fucking asshole. You know me. I only watch her later roles. Lisa Turtle. Yeah. Jessie. Zach Screech. What later roles did you watch? A.C. Slater.

Kelly Kaposky. Kelly Kaposky. And which later roles of Jessie did you follow along? Dancing. Dancing movies. Okay. She did end up. She didn't have a lot of feature films, did she?

She was a professional. Cabaret. She did great. It was great. One more Cabaret. There is something to have a moment of silence about. Yep. And that would be the incredible career of Sam Cooke,

former punter for the Baltimore Ravens for a long time, a member of the Wolfpack that obviously has Justin Tucker in it, arguably the greatest kicker of all time in the conversation. He was his holder. He was obviously a punter that reinvented the game with different punts and different kicks. He started doing the Aussie punt back to the left and showcasing going to the right. He had like 13 different punts that he would whip out in the middle of the game and have to return on fucking skates. Enjoyed watching his film.

A Big Ten guy, I do believe. Bombed footballs for a long time. A lot of us watched his film and learned from him. An absolute stud. I haven't really met him personally. Had a beer with him or hung out with him. Seems like a great guy.

An incredible career. Congrats to Sam Cooke. Being a beast of a punter. It's the dawn of a new day. They drafted Jordan Stott, out of Penn State, who I think assumed to be

kind of the writing on the wall that Sam was retiring. In my eyes, because they weren't just going to push Sam Cooke out with, I think, how much respect they have for him. Jordan Stott, the punter from Penn State, a dude, an absolute dude. If Sam Cook will stick around and hopefully coach him and help him and teach him a lot of ways to become an NFL punter and what you need to do, I assume the Baltimore Ravens will be very thankful of that, but the Ravens have great special teams, and that's because guys like Sam Cook have been there for so long. An absolute champion

of punting football is A.J. Hawk. Do you know how many years he played? 2006 he was drafted. I was thinking like 15 years. I mean, I'm glad it was just retirement. The way you were speaking, I was like, did something happen to this dude? Is he okay? Hell of a career. Worthy of it.

His career was incredible. Most important play in football. What are you talking about? Thank you, A.J. And that's how healthy. He was healthy. He was healthy. He was healthy. He was healthy. He was healthy. He had a healthy career. Worthy of it. His career was incredible. Most important play in football. What are you talking about? Thank you, AJ. And that's how we'll end today's show. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Punt.

Make sure punt is the most important play in football. Make sure people know that. Bill Burr is 100% sure I was a field goal kicker. And we will not correct the white guy. It's kind of confusing, though, because you did kick off. So it is confusing. And obviously, field goal kicker in college. Yeah. So I can answer any question, you know, about most most things and i got to see venetieri do it i feel pretty comfortable

talking about all three facets of the kicking game you know kickoff punting and field goal kicking i feel very comfortable in those combos but i wasn't i was nowhere near consistent enough to be a field goal kicker in the NFL. And then when I potentially became consistent enough to become a field goal kicker in the NFL, my knee couldn't take it anymore. So, you know, it was a gift and a curse. Great run, though. It was a great run. A lot of fun.

Enjoyed punting. Thought I was going to hate it. Thought about not playing football if I was drafted as a punter because somebody floated it by me. They were like, hey, somebody might ask you to be a punter. I'm like, I'm not playing fucking punter. I'm not doing punter. I'm not doing just punter i'm not i'm not doing punter i'm not doing just punters way better than kicker man i would absolutely rather be a punter than a kicker well so i learned that over my career because i was beloved by basically every other fan base i would only get booed at home when i

would go on to the field i'm booed at home i'm cheered in other places and also you know i was pretty i think a novice in the knowledge of what the punt play can really do. You know, because in college, I was just running and trying to kick it as hard as I could. And it wasn't really like a lot of football IQ. Like, hey, you know, like the reason why you need to do this with who you got covering. And this guy's out. This guy's in. What this person does.

What do you need to put the ball like? I thought it was just, you know, there's no chance to really affect the game i thought and that whole thing i was wrong you could and i learned that as i got older and i was appreciative of it but i always wanted to be a kicker and uh then when i finally got good enough to be the kicker it's well vinitario was still kicking and my niece said we ain't kicking so that's where i'm at i got a 35 yard 35-yarder coming up this fall. Hell, yeah. So I'm a little intrigued on that because I don't think I can train for that. Oh, yeah. I don't think I can train for that because I do believe – You can kick a couple, though.

I think so, yeah. Like a 35-yarder, I should be able to just knock it. Are you going middle? Are you going middle or are you going to choose a hash? Middle. More uprights. More room for miss. More room for error.

You know, some guys like going to the left because they push the ball a little bit or the right because they hook the ball a little bit. Me, I haven't kicked in years. I have no idea where that fucker's going. So let's give the most amount of room for that thing. I'm going to try to boot it, though. Like, I want that thing to go over the net. Yeah.

You know, might as well. I mean, yeah, you have to, right? Have to. Have to swing at it. Just like those boys from Frankfurt. That's right. That's why I was so, like, they were to, right? Have to. Have to swing at it. Just like those boys from Frankfurt. That's right. That's why I was so... Like, they were swinging at this thing.

Burning. The amount of, like, I don't give a fuck if this misses, and confidence that you have to step into that and go full swing is awesome. They were in a hurry to get things done. They rushed and rushed into life. No, no. All they really gotta do is live in night

you're frozen AJ and I know why you're done you're ready to get things done all you really

gotta do is sit and talk And now we are leaving No, no, no What? All right. This fucking guy. All right. Back-to-back days with this guy.

Yeah. Around the same time, huh? I do believe he's getting construction done on the house. They probably just did it. Cut the cord. That happens. It does happen. Yes, it does. He's been there, done that. All right, everybody construction done on the house. They probably just did it. Cut the cord. That happens. It does happen.

Yes, it does. He's been there, done that. All right, everybody. That's the show. Big shout out to Ruppert and Micah joining us. Tiger Watch is fun, right? Yeah. Oh, we got some updates about NFL games being scheduled tomorrow. Oh, here we go.

Jesse Bates hates the franchise tag. We'll talk about that. He does. Is Jimmy Butler Jordan's kid? Maybe Possibly I don't know Find out tonight Conversation needs to happen

We'll find out tonight We'll talk about it tomorrow If he drops 40 Are they doing 23 and me? They should I don't think I thought I was 23 and me by the way

Jordan's 23 He is 23 They are the face of 23 23 and Jimmy Make a documentary Jimmy Jordan So Mitt did a little bit more research, obviously. He tweeted, he texted in a little bit more follow-up on the conspiracy that is Jimmy

Butler being the illegitimate child of Michael Jordan. Jimmy Butler was born in Houston. Where? Houston. Mike Jones. Who? Who? Paul Wall. What? I read the text, bro. He was born in Houston. Mike Jones. Who? Who? Paul Wall.

I read the text, bro. He was born in Houston. Well, Huston is how. He was trying to get in there quick. Huston. September 14th, 1989. Okay. Michael Jordan and the Bulls were on a road trip in Dallas December 3rd, 1988.

Holy shit. Months. Holy shit. Nine months. It takes nine months to have a baby. Apparently, it's more like 10. 1988. Holy shit. Oh shit. Nine months and it takes nine months to have a baby. Apparently it's more like ten. Back then though.

Back then it was nine. So quite an interesting little theory on the internet and around here we hate conspiracy theories. Keep them out. Keep them all out. We don't want to talk about them.

Not one. Don't even think that something that has just been deemed by all the powerful people not real. Don't even think that it's made to be real. No. Don't even do it. Nope. Fall in line. Fall in line.

Shut your mouth. And fucking keep it moving. That's right. That's what we do around here. Always. All right. We're out of here. We're back tomorrow with another banger of a feel-good Friday. Big guest tomorrow. Big guest tomorrow. Oh Hell yeah. We're out of here. We're back tomorrow with another banger

of a feel-good Friday. Big guest tomorrow. Big guest tomorrow. Oh yeah. Big guest tomorrow. We'd become a Hawkeye house. Hell yeah.

A little bit. George Kittle's on NFL football factory. Yeah. Cheat code. George Kittle will join us tomorrow. I believe Quentin

Richardson's joining us tomorrow. They're a basketball talk. Tomorrow should be a great feel-good Friday. Then I'm off to Grand Rapids, Michigan.

That's okay. Sorry, man. It's beautiful this time of year. Where's that at? That's on the west side, closer to Lake Michigan. It is very nice. I haven't been there all that much, probably only once or twice in my whole life. Is it north?

Way north? No, west of Lansing. Okay. That should be a quick trip. Yeah, yeah. That should only be a four-hour drive, so a 40-minute plane ride. Yeah, I don't know. At least just a half-hour, maybe. Nice. Let's go. Celebrating Grand Rapids.

Saturday, 3 p.m. Eastern, I'm doing a chat with Pat. Q&A on my Twitter. Come join me. I haven't done that in a long time. Twitter is my home. Twitter is where I started this entire thing. I've gotten off Twitter a little bit, mostly other than just clips because there's too much of me on there and too much in life.

But I miss the interactions on Twitter. I miss the Q&A. I used to answer everybody that tweeted me way back in the day whenever I was going, and I enjoyed it. Now don't necessarily have the ability to do that because of schedule constraints. But Saturday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, hashtag chat with Pat.

Come join the call, though. Here we go. Let's go. I can't wait to get in there. Yeah, this will be the first Saturday in a while where there's no playoff games during the day for either sport. Right, no playoff games. And also, rain coming, so probably no golf games. Oh, it's great.

We can watch the PGA Championship. Oh, yeah. Good point. What if Tiger's not there? I mean, the leaderboard will still be coming. Is John Daly making a cut? I hope so. Fucking better be.

Yeah, if Tiger's not there, we need fucking J.D. Rims. That's right. He's a blue-collar golfer from a blue-collar town. Don't know what he's lost. Don't know what he's found. It's John Daly.

Yeah, it's a good song. About John Daly. About to find a trophy. Fucking love John Daly. Back tomorrow. Everybody have a great one. Thank you all so much for watching. Up to Something season is back.

Yeah, full bloom. I'd say. It's wild right now. Harder than ever. On the streets. Hey, Up to Something season is wild right now. Yeah, it's awesome. Getting calls from people that I never expected to get calls from.

No idea. Up to Something season, baby. When Up to Something season started. Dude, it's awesome, isn't it? Hell yeah. I had no idea. We were just in pre-something season started. Dude, it's awesome, isn't it? Hell yeah. I had no idea. We were just in preseason there a little bit ago whenever I announced up-to-something season.

Yeah, something to remember for next year. It's playoff season right now for up-to-something season. Hell yeah. Playoffs. Playoffs. Playoffs. Playoffs. When Barry O calls, you answer.

Who? Barry O. 44th, 43rd president. Don't sleep on Berrio. Obama is what he's saying. Oh, my God. Jesus. President Berrio.

Yeah. What's he calling me for? Up to some season. I will say there's no presidents calling. Of the country. Mike Gallagher. No presidents of countries calling. Oh.

He's a congressman of a country. For now. Yeah, but we're not in the time travel thing right now we are not in the future what if that's real what if mike allegor is the president in the future that's now people back foxy and obviously in indiana we can't do that we have to dance around it all with like cbds and other deltas and stuff like that that is legal as soon as we got out of here foxy took a bunch of cbd and he was like that orange globe legal. As soon as we got out of here, Foxy took a bunch of CBD, and he was like, that orange globe was you from the future.

I know it. That's what Foxy now thinks. That's what we saw. We saw you from the future, or kin of you from the future, saying, hey, this is what your fucking dad or grandpa, great grandpa, had to do to get to where you are now. You are right now,

you little fucking piece of shit. This is what they were doing. I wish we would have stopped over there now. Yeah. You sack of shit. You spoiled fuck. I know it. It's good to see family dynamics have improved in the future.

Makes sense. I don't think so. I don't think it's going to. Depends what kind of teleporter they were using. Because that was the Monday where we did the show. You filmed the thing. It's Ghost of Christmasporter they were using. Because that was the Monday where we did the show. You filmed the thing. It's Ghost of Christmas. Future.

Yeah. That was a long day. McConaughey, great movie. Peyton's Place is right? Yep, Peyton's Place is straight to Raw. It was probably 1 a.m. when we saw that thing. Holy fuck. Makes sense.

Damn. I don't think it's McConaughey, is it? No, it's Ghost of Girlfriend's Pass. It is a great movie, though, Tony. Makes sense. Damn. I don't think it's McConaughey, is it? No, it's Ghost of Girlfriends Pass. It is a great movie, though, Tony. It is. Bah humbug is what we're talking about. Ebenezer. That'd be cool if that was the case.

It might be. Who says no? Well, we'll never find out. No. Well, maybe. No, I don't think. Well, maybe, because if it is me. Well, and you froze your body, so.

Bring me back. They might have brought you back. That could have been you. Where are they? That might, maybe, because if it is me. Well, and you froze your body, so. Bring me back. They might have brought you back. That could have been you. Where are they? That might have been you. Unfreeze me. Yeah. Fucking fix me.

Hell yeah. Take me back to the raw when we were flying home from Chicago. I'm sick of these people. Yeah. My fucking future family is the worst. But they're balling out and time traveling and shit. Yeah. Exactly.

I hope they're doing the right thing. I hope you guys are doing the right stuff. That's all you can ask. Just be a good person because I'm watching Succession. I don't think a lot of families are doing the right stuff once they become successful. No, I don't think so. That's not our family, though. No.

That's not anybody in this studio's family. Never. That could have been Ty's family. Yeah. Could have been. Foxy, that could have been your family after Foxy Flicks becomes. True. Could have been.

I had too much booze with that. Yeah, there you go. DUI. Well, I was boozing at the time, so. Oh, so maybe they're taking you back like, hey, you want to become this fucking booze bag? You want to become like your great, great, great, great, great grandfather? No, you don't. He's a booze

bag and by the way his father's father yes long line yeah speaking of we have some to try here let's go yeah that's right hammer dons in 15 20 minutes um we appreciate you so much there'll be some winners announced immediately following uh us getting off air here from the instagram i believe shout out to Bruce Brown. We'll have a big-time giveaway tomorrow. I think we're supposed to do one today. We forgot. That's 100% my fault.

We'll do one tomorrow. Big guests, big conversations. Thank you, boys. Thank you all so much. See you in 19 hours and 43 minutes with 30 seconds. Bye. សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពី Thank you. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពី Thank you. សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពី Thank you.