The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 673 - Gumpy’s Send Off, NBA Insider Shams Charania, Sports Gambling Icon Gabe Morency, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 27, 2022

On today’s show Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys say goodbye to Gumpy who has to go back to Canada for a bit. Today the boys talk about the NFL headlines like the LeSean McCoy & Eric Bieniemy situation on... I Am Athlete and `Travis Kelce on money being a secondary goal, the latest in the NBA, and more. Joining the progrum in the first hour is Senior Lead Analyst, Writer, and Insider for Stadium &the Athletic, Shams Charania to chat about the playoffs and storylines in the Association, Jokic’s major money deal, tonight’s lineups, Gary Payton II’s return, Zion Williamson, and more(58:08-1:17:48). Later in hour two, @SportsRage on Twitter, Host on Sports Grid TV, and Sports Grid Radio, sports gambling icon, Gabe Morency, joins the progrum to talk about his process, his schedule, and his favorite sports bets for the upcoming sporting events varying from the NBA Playoffs, the Chompion’s League, and NHL to sports bets you have never heard of(1:19:00-1:42:51). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you next week, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people. This is a feel-good, gumpy celebration. Friday, May 27th, Sports Show That Begins Right... Now! Thank you all for joining us here and it is obviously a feel-good Friday and we'll continue to keep the vibes high although it is the last time we'll be able to hang out with one of our most favorite individuals that have ever come out of a birth womb, a birth canal. It has blessed us with his presence over the last year and a half or so. Gumby, we're going to miss you. You'll be back soon, but your presence will be greatly missed. We're very thankful for everything that you've done.
Starting point is 00:00:45 And good luck in your voyage back home. From all of us and everybody that watches and listens to everybody that has ever encountered you and said, hell of a lad. He's a good guy. We're going to miss your presence here, pal. For a week, two weeks, a month, two months, however long it's going to take, we can't wait to get you back. You'll still be in the fold, but you won't be in the office, and we all miss you, man.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Thank you, lads. I appreciate it. When I stopped playing soccer, I never thought I'd get a feeling of a team again, and being here with you guys, I know that's kind of what it's been like, and you guys are family to me and always will be. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Love you, pal.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Love you, too. Love you, pal. That was very sentimental there. It's true, man. I came out here with fucking nothing and you guys picked me up and took care of me and I'll never repay you. We love you, man. We love you. Can't wait for you to come back. By the way, your return again is going to be great. Oh, God. And you're definitely going to have to repay me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:41 It's just like give an effort at least just like in WWE when somebody you know isn't on TV for a while and then they come back the pop
Starting point is 00:01:51 oh yeah it's incredible the gumpy pop is going to be like stone cold is going to be a big one it is going to be the glass break
Starting point is 00:01:58 we appreciate everything you've done and although we'll have a weekend with you you know we'll get a chance to the people at home won't
Starting point is 00:02:04 so go ahead and bless them with whatever comes to your beautiful little brain over there. That's probably going to get bigger over the next couple of months. That is the goal. That is the one goal going back home. What's that? Sandwiches, wine,
Starting point is 00:02:17 a couple of sanguis for the lads. Get in the library. We ain't going out there to waste time. Dude, he's coming back with five chains They're gonna hang the same length that these four chains hang That's right The whole body's gonna be big
Starting point is 00:02:31 That head is gonna become Eight and a half He's coming back shining Yeah We cannot Oh no We'll talk off air about it But as your head grows right
Starting point is 00:02:40 The skin will Oh yeah As well Oh no Oh no The hat ain't coming off my friend maybe maybe full head of hair when i come back yeah hey why not i know why not now if there's enough time yeah i don't know sweet wig uh to everybody else watching at home uh happy memorial day weekend coming up we will be off on monday We'll be enjoying the festivities as will everybody else, I assume.
Starting point is 00:03:08 You know, just putting perspective and thankful for everything. I think it's a great weekend to do as such. Hopefully the weather will be fantastic wherever the hell you are. Speaking of weather, you know, yesterday Ty really had to weather a storm because he was attacked by Boston Connor because of Boston
Starting point is 00:03:24 Connor's toxicity. Now, after an internet-wide vote and vote amongst the office, everybody is in agreement that Conner, you need to apologize. That's right now. Right now. No chance. That's not a real vote then because everyone I saw on the internet said, yeah, I'm surprised that you guys just skipped over Ty calling Doty fat.
Starting point is 00:03:42 That was an entire conversation. And the way Gumpy clipped it, by the way. Gumby clipped out the entire conversation leading up to it. That set the standard for us to be talking about broken down bodies. That's right. And Ty's example of one broken down body was an obese person. Yeah. And it was great at pool.
Starting point is 00:03:58 That's right. And Connor automatically said, oh, that person. No, no, no. That's Tony. That's Tony. No, no, no. That's what you think. We were talking about Tony playing pool. Okay. And then right away, that person. No, no, no. That's Tony. That's Tony. No, no, no. That's what you think we're talking about, Tony, playing pool.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Okay? And then right away, Ty goes. Well, it's kind of. Tony, you're about to get an apology. Yeah, from Ty. Yeah, I don't need an apology from Connor. Thank you. Boom.
Starting point is 00:04:18 That's all it is. Boom. That's all it is. Holy shit. I knew it. That's all of it. I don't need one from Ty either. Now. Okay. Someone has to. That's all I meant. I don't need one from Ty either. Now.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Okay. Someone has to apologize. Someone better say something. It should be this fucking guy. It should be this guy. No way. We all know it. Rock, paper, scissors.
Starting point is 00:04:33 That's a three. Well, I can't do that because in no way in my heart can I apologize to Tony for something I did not do. Your words. Tony, don't worry. A bunch of fat guys play pool. That's what you fucking said. Yeah, it was. No. That's what you said. No, Your words. Tony, don't worry. A bunch of fat guys play pool. That's what you fucking said. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:04:47 No. That's what you said. No, he didn't say, hey, Tone. Yeah. He was just adding to the conversation that was taking place. While we were talking about Tony playing pool. At that particular point of the convo, we were talking about broken down bodies. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And you automatically correlated the broken down fat body to Tone Diggs. No, not at all. In Connor's defense, I was already doing that for myself. Yeah, but you're allowed to do that to you. Okay. I don't...
Starting point is 00:05:09 I give everyone permission to if they're in this office. On this program, can't have it. I don't know if AJ should get off either. AJ was snickering away. True.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Well, of course. He's still like a Greek god. He could say that. He's a dirt bag. Yeah, exactly. Bingo. So are you... Did you say fat or fat soul? I said... That's what I said Greek god. He could say that. Yeah, exactly. Bingo. Did you say fat or fat so? That's what I said this morning.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I said, hey, if I really would have been trying to take a shot at Tony, like really would have, I would have said fat so. And not just, there's a lot of fat. You're trying to add actual fat into the convo that we're having. Tony, there's a lot of fat people out here that are great at pool. I'm not saying you're fat. That was adding to breaking. We have the clip.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Please, let's run the clip. I don't know if it's from the entire setup or not. This might be a backroom setup here for Tyrell. This is what was tweeted yesterday. This is what I grabbed. Billiards champion. That's a good game that everybody's kind of good at. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Fun game. Kind of good. What? everybody's kind of good at. Exactly. Fun game. Kind of good. What? I mean, I stink. Really? Yeah. I was befuddled.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You should be good, right? Good hand-eye dexterity? Not anymore. Explosive hips? We've been marvelous. My body has failed me. It's done. No, but that's all mindset.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Perfect for pool, though. A lot of fat guys that are good at pool. You see that 90-year-old guy? Beat the fuck out of Foxy and Connor. Now that my arm doesn't even go backwards anymore. What's that, Connor? What was that about? Oh, my God. I'm not saying Tony's fat.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I'm saying you don't have to be in good shape. That was clearly you redirecting what he said right to Tone. You buried Tone through Ty's mouth. Yeah. You need to apologize for you and A.J. Hawk for everything that happened.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And Gumpy, you're right. Please apologize for fat shaming through Ty's mouth. Please, I had four bags of famous Amos chocolate chip cookies this morning.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I'm not apologizing for anything, especially when Ty says, hey, Tony, fat people play pool. You can still be good at it. That's what he fucking said in context of that clip. That's all I saw. All right, let's move on because I think we're bringing too much
Starting point is 00:07:14 spotlight to this particular thing because it's not real. Tony, you look very good. My baby Tony. Follow up, though. It's very clear that you are never and you can say that about you, by the way. That's right the way I'm surprised Connor didn't Yeah He's a real friend he should
Starting point is 00:07:29 No He was calling you Tubby Tony What? What? I didn't know that What is that? That's just stirring the pot right there Real friends will just tell you the truth
Starting point is 00:07:44 To your face thank Thank you, Connor. I didn't say so. Don't watch. Don't watch. Apologize. Apologize. I just said it. I refused to apologize.
Starting point is 00:07:52 He just said it. You said it. You said it to his face. I didn't fucking do that. Show remorse. Take a victory lap for being a good friend like he said. Don't wait to go. No, I won't.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Those guys are really good. Hey, hey, hey. Now apologize. I won't apologize because the only thing good. Hey, hey, hey. Now apologize. I won't apologize because the only thing that I did that was a good friend was stand up for him because Ty fucking body shamed him. That's the only thing I did. You're unbelievable. You're unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's fucking gross what you did yesterday. I guess in the comments section, you're going to have to apologize for them as well. Well, fuck that. They're all chanting tubby tone right now. What? How dare you? I apologize for you. Nick is the one that just said that.
Starting point is 00:08:31 You're the one that said it. I never said that. He's fucking making it up. He's my guy. He's fucking making that shit up. You apologize for yourself, for AJ Hawk, and for the comment section right now
Starting point is 00:08:42 doing what they're fucking doing. All because of you. I'll apologize for being an absolute asshat. I will not apologize for calling Tony fat because I never fucking did it. And the only reason they're saying that shit in there is because Nick back there wanted to make up some funny names.
Starting point is 00:08:55 We'll do a poll. Okay. I already got it out there. On Twitter or on YouTube? Twitter. Okay, Twitter polls. We don't know if they're good. We have no fucking idea if any of these things are real. The Twitter one, once it sets a percentage like maybe a minute in, it will
Starting point is 00:09:11 not change really off of that maybe percentage or two. We learned maybe they've updated it since Elon Musk is Did he buy Twitter? Did he buy Twitter? I think it's still TBD. Put it in the YouTube chat right now, though, on who...
Starting point is 00:09:28 Those are the worst group of humans on Earth. Can you apologize to them? I will never. I'm going to apologize on this show since we won't apologize for nothing. I was told no one ends up being the guy that apologizes.
Starting point is 00:09:42 As I said before, I will never apologize for telling the truth. Okay. Please put a poll in the YouTube chat after hearing that clip and the way it was chatted about and what Ty was attempting to talk about. Yeah. Was Connor in the wrong because he clearly utilized Ty's words to say, thank God you said it. Yeah, right. That's what you did.
Starting point is 00:10:05 No, I didn't. Or is this others' fault? Not Ty's. It's not mine. Are you kidding me? Thank you. That's bullshit. It makes me feel good to know
Starting point is 00:10:15 that we were on the same page with this from the get-go because it wasn't my fault. Maybe you were having a conversation. We were. We were in the middle of a good combo. And then all of a sudden, this guy starts snickering and pointing at me.
Starting point is 00:10:25 This show is about good conversation and getting lost in it. Maybe you should try it sometime. That's what happened to me. Yeah. I get lost all the time. This fucking guy came out here and started talking. All right, put time. Put time.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah, put time. Thank you. That's all we're asking here. Jesus. I watched that thing two, three times last night. I watched it a hundred. A hundred times last night. I was screaming like the butcher's dog.
Starting point is 00:10:46 What's that? All right. Just kidding. It was funny. Because Gumpy did clip on you. I thought you and I were supposed to be
Starting point is 00:10:53 on the same team. We always are, my friend. Gumpy was the one that clipped it and put it out into the universe. Saw a lot of people down there saying
Starting point is 00:11:00 Ty's a scumbag. That's all I know. Yeah, that's because you retweeted and said, who's with me? Yeah, he did. No, not you, dude. We can scroll through the replies right now.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I mean, we're probably going to get taken down for showing our own clip on there. No, no, no. People can run our shit. No problems. Okay. Anybody else's stuff, though, somehow YouTube has this magical, mythical AI
Starting point is 00:11:17 that takes down anybody that does something immediately. But if it's our shit, let somebody generate six figures off it. And then if you say, well, isn't there a way to go about doing it? Hire somebody else to figure it out our shit, let somebody generate six figures off it. And then if you say, well, isn't there like, is there a way to go about doing it? Hire somebody else to figure it out. Oh, thanks, YouTube. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Fuckers. Over a thousand votes, which is a pretty good focus. Where are we at? Sample size, I'm sorry. 72% of people say Tyshmets the back thank you well yes i fucking love you out there that simply goes to show that all those 72 are also going to need to apologize to because they're thinking the exact same thing that connor was exactly as soon as you said it, those 720 people out of the
Starting point is 00:12:05 thousand, they all were like, oh, man. Ty said, we're all thinking. Ty, you look good. Don't patronize me. I would like to apologize for everyone. I am sorry this is happening to you.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Why is this your fault? Oh, you're so... Such a nice, noble gesture from you. Doesn't deserve this on a feel-good Friday, going into Memorial weekend. I know he's going to crack some beers with some friends, but he's going to have no confidence going into the weekend. I didn't eat dinner last night, so...
Starting point is 00:12:36 So I am sorry. Thanks a lot, Ty. Yeah, that's because of you. Oh, really? Because the people have spoken, and this fucking guy is in the wrong. The poll is not over yet. Oh, it's not.
Starting point is 00:12:46 But we know from these polls. Now look at it. 70% You call Tony a fat slob? That's identity. Hey, Bill. Save that, Bill. Look at that. Why don't you apologize, Bill?
Starting point is 00:12:55 You son of a bitch. Look at how much it is. 70% of 3,000 people. Bill, you're a third bad. Yeah, when you frame it like that, who's not going to vote? Bill's got a lot of nerve. Bill, when you frame it like that, who's not going to vote? Bill's got a lot of nerve. I caught him over by the sink garbage can eating second lunch this morning.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Because he was ashamed. This show. I think I'd be winning this early on a Friday. All right, that's what we're about, though. Good competition. You know, in sports. Tie losers. Let's dive into it. Today we have, well, the way that was worded.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I mean, you're in a way game. This is definitely an away game for Ty. He's coming right into your toxic world. Bill, who actually said the words that we are chatting about currently in this entire decision? Bill wanted you to lose. He did. What did you do to Bill? Maybe you should apologize to Bill.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I may have called Bill a fat sloth. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not saying i did right now right there he's on the track record jeez no no all right sean shirani is joining us in the next hour great to see you gump hell yeah appreciate you gump appreciate you love you you go love you pal we got a few days left we got all week hey free gump shirts are moving too by the way a lot of people supporting you i hope you know that here we go feel that nice airbnb that money will go to gump yeah the money will go to gump it's a great free gump shirt too oh yeah who created that i think i don't know no i think phil maybe reach out to somebody because it was during the show I thought no so remember there was somebody that was doing uh graphic design for our shirts
Starting point is 00:14:29 what like two three years ago named Mitch Canadian I think right Canadian yes Canadian is that who yeah big Calgary flames fun oh they're right fucking McJeezy how you doing he's playing pretty bad all game. The fucking OT winner or whatever. This guy, unbelievable. He's a hell of a ball player. They were robbed. Puck player. Kaiser.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I guess. Same thing. Let's go Lightning. Go Boats. Yeah, here we go, Boats. Go Boats. Go Boats. Go Boats.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I'm not on the ass. What? Go Boats. Me too. Yeah. Go Boats. I mean, it's a win-win. Hopefully, we just have the matchup and the Stanley Cup and then we just all win.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah, but with what me and Gumpy just said there, it feels like it might be an uncomfortable thing, especially if, I mean, the big rig has invited us down to a game and then probably drinks afterwards on a keg, you said. Right. Don't forget about the Caniacs. Brother. Brother. The Caniacs did invite us out to a game to fucking do the thing.
Starting point is 00:15:23 They did. Siren. They haven't lost at home yet either. 3-2. I ain't Bill Carr. Who did it last night? Do we know? I missed it.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I fucking love the Caniacs. Nothing but respect for the Caniacs. That arena, by the way, they were showing it last night before the game. That thing goes straight up, it looks like. Some of those seats. Nobody's sitting. Nobody's sitting. 20,000 packed in there.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I saw about, they showed one section Of whites And all of their faces Were blistering red Like the color of my face Normally I'm like Oh they were out in the sun Literally all day Handed a drop
Starting point is 00:15:51 Like they talk about With them tailgating For this fucking thing They treat it Like everybody says Like an Asgard race And why is everybody like Why do you keep comparing
Starting point is 00:15:59 To an Asgard race Well if you've ever been To an Asgard race Literally you're just Boozing for 12 hours And a race happens And then you're boozing During that But you're just boozing for 12 hours and a race happens. And then you're boozing during that.
Starting point is 00:16:07 But you're having a fucking great time outside. That's what this fan base is like, hey, all the way in, which is the home of racing, I believe, or something. They call North Carolina that area for NASCAR. IndyCar's home is right here in Indianapolis, Indiana. That's right. F1's home, Malacca. Malacca. This weekend.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Can't wait. Looks awesome. But they get after it for those games, and it's obvious that they're all very intoxicated. I'm very impressed. Not all of them. That's a broad brush. I apologize. But I like the way they do things down there for the Caniacs.
Starting point is 00:16:36 You know, that arena's awesome. It's built. It ain't not. There's no reason for me to do that. There is no reason for me to bury the Caniacs, to put over the Bolts, okay? But if it was the Pens, maybe. I'm very new to the Bolt train. Go Bolts, go Bolts, go Bolts.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Love the Caniacs, but, sorry, Big Rick invited me down to the game, so the guy that, whoo, and he's punching people in the head and scoring goals in his back-to-back-to-back Stanley Cup champion. I'm going to have to wrap it up. I'm sorry, Caniacs,
Starting point is 00:17:04 although I do appreciate everything you're about down there. Well, you've seen the fan base. I mean, we were basically ingratiated into the boat community, so why wouldn't you? Yeah, we touched the boat community when people were being told not to touch anybody. That's right. Fish bump.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Don't, no inside the palm, because goddamn COVID will run from the middle of your palm. Even if you didn't have a finger, it'll run right down in there, right up to your thumb. And then the thumb, whenever you raise your hand, is the closest to the side of your mask. COVID would jump in the side of the mask in your mouth. Couldn't even shake your hand if he wanted to. What's that? Shake his hand.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Well, he couldn't though. Yeah, he couldn't do it. Do you remember at the beginning of that thing when there was old whites teaching the world? You're going to go elbow, elbow, side of leg. The elbow was kind of cool. You like the elbow? Elbow smash. Like this one right here?
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah. It is like a super like, oh, I got shit on my hand. Sorry about it. Go ahead. How are you doing? They kind of made it like normal. I think I might have taken it from you. I started doing the side.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yeah, yeah, I do side. I do the bottom palm side. It's like a punch. I feel like it's a little bit more relaxed. I was wearing my knuckles when I started cracking. Miss Terry, the lady that put the shiny things on my standard black tank top and black pants that I wear for the rest of my life. Miss Saban's wife?
Starting point is 00:18:23 Huh? Miss Saban's wife? Miss Terry. Miss Terry? No,'s wife? Miss Terry. Miss Terry? No, no, but Miss Terry. She's been on the show. All right. Told Nick.
Starting point is 00:18:31 All right. Don't be doing what you're doing with fucking Jimbo. All right? Yeah. You guys are old friends. Miss Terry works for WWE. She's been in the costume department, I believe. Seen her department for, I don't know, like 30 years.
Starting point is 00:18:42 She's 40 years maybe. Made all of Undertaker's things and all of Ric Flair's stuff and everything. Yeah, she has like a, she's 40 years maybe made all of undertaker's things and all of rick flair stuff and everything yeah she has like a uh she has a what's that thing called it's called something oh a wardrobe curio it's yeah it's like a traveling closet but there's a name for it it's something i don't know has all that shit you fist bump her with like caution she fucking breaking up oh my god love the hard path i'm like mysterious thank you so much you That shit. You fist bump her with like caution. She fucking. Breaking knuckles. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Love the hard pass. I'm like, Miss Terry, thank you so much. You know, wham, okay. All right. Rings on. Sorry, she's the nicest lady of all time. Maybe the most friendly person I've ever encountered. Incredibly talented at her job.
Starting point is 00:19:20 First time I fist bumped her, almost broke my fucking knuckles. It was like, all right, Miss Terry, I'll fucking remember that. So I turned to the side now. Not because of of her but that saves you from any of those moments like because if you do get middle finger knuckle on middle finger knuckle there is a little bit of a joust happening between the bones yeah so i just go ahead and give a nice landing spot for people and it's like a quick jab to how you deliver it is a quick in and out good energy i the a clean those are all the way back right oh yeah absolutely there's conversations at times come
Starting point is 00:19:53 when you were not able to get back into canada and now not able to stay in america it's unbelievable unbelievable thing there was times during this entire where we thought that was going to be gone. Dead, forever. They were pitching against it hard. Say goodbye to handshakes. Say goodbye to greetings, how we have known them forever or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And I'm, tonight, Little Rock, Arkansas. I'll be on an open hand. Might as well just run with an open mouth. We've been to it. Right behind like 200 people, yeah. It's crazy. That's why every time I see somebody with a mask, everybody talks about me talking about it.
Starting point is 00:20:25 It's like, do they know something I don't know? Because I'm fucking right in the middle of basically every single state. Oh, yeah. It's been pretty crazy. Steve Kerr's back with it, too. I thought he was done with it. And then last night he had it back on. Steve Kerr has had it on since the entire beginning of this whole thing, right?
Starting point is 00:20:41 I believe so. I don't know if he did before he got it. By the way, a lot of Golden State fans did not have it on. Yeah, but a lot of Golden State fans, whenever they're saying Chuck, you suck,
Starting point is 00:20:49 the Chuck, you suck chant before the kickoff show. Yeah. Great show, by the way. Unbelievable. They gave Shaq a harmonica horn, basically. So you blow into it
Starting point is 00:20:59 and it'll be an air horn. You know what I mean? It was fucking incredible. Talk basketball. Yeah, talk basketball. Even Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, the boys hit boys hit the setup afterwards chuck has had a nice little rivalry with the golden state warriors fans he says who's gonna who's gonna win it all these are fucking celtics are gonna win it all i believe clay no uh draymond green said yeah he thinks
Starting point is 00:21:18 boston's gonna be who they play in the finals is that how you're feeling right now as well i just saw a video that you showed me of Kobe and Tatum basically mimicking, you know, Tatum mimicking Kobe on the court and then hearing about how much he was a mentor to him. Tatum, he's the guy, huh? This guy is the guy. I mean, there's a chance he just became the second youngest player to score 1,500 points in the postseason.
Starting point is 00:21:39 The first youngest was Kobe. So, I mean, I hope for sure. I mean, because of how weird this series has been and we won last game, part of me thinks the Heat will just come out and fire him, but, I mean, Shams hopefully will tell us. Jimmy Butler, there's something going on there. Kyle Lowry, there's something going on there. They're so banged up to the point
Starting point is 00:21:55 where it's got to be the Celtics. And Celtics Warriors haven't played a final since Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell. So it'd be awesome to kind of have that throwback series. Hey, that was a knockdown drag guy. They were fucking playing. Good hoops. 10-round fight.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Russell Westbrook of the Lakers. We'll talk to Shams about this in the second hour. He says, I want to be traded to the – I'll go to Milwaukee. I'll go to Golden State. He also left Boston. I'll go to Boston. He says, get me out of Los Angeles. Get me to any team that is better than us.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Warriors, Bucs, and Heat. He's owed like 40-something million next year. 47 million next year, but nothing after that. It is the last year of his contract. So can you renegotiate the deal immediately upon getting there? How many people want him? And his hometown is L.A. He said, get me to fucking Milwaukee.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I can't wait to hear why Shams thinks that is the case. Was it just a bad fit? Does he not like? LeBron? Oh. Uh-oh. Wait to hear why Shams thinks that is the case. Was it just a bad fit? Does he not like? Little bro? Oh. By the way, people don't get along all the time. That's not a knock on either of them. But for whatever reason, Russell Westbrook was passing the ball out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah. He was airballing shots. He was hitting the side of backboards. For whatever reason, it just did not work in L.A., and I can't wait to get Brody back. Need to get Brody back. Gumpy, you're a big basketball gumbler. What do we know about Russell Westbrook this year that he just stunk, right? That's kind of the
Starting point is 00:23:12 M.O. That had to be so... That had to be a long, fucking terrible year for Russell Westbrook. He's like, I'm not doing this ever again, you think? I know he wasn't great, but he was healthy the whole year. I don't think the Lakers are better without him this year. Well, the Lakers are better without him this year. Well, the Lakers can't get a fucking coach.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Do you know what I mean, though? He was healthy. He led the Lakers in almost everything. We've got to talk to Sean about all these things. Make sure we don't let him off the phone before getting answers to everything. Yeah, we won't. Sounds good. LaShawn McCoy and Eric Biennium are currently in... I guess LaShawn McCoy and the Kansas City Chiefs are currently
Starting point is 00:23:43 in the middle of a fake beef that is happening on May 26th and May 27th. Correct. 2022, in this particular portion of the NFL schedule. So, I Am Athlete now has a daily show on Mad Dog Sports Radio on Sirius XM called I Am Athlete Tonight. Shady's on there. Pac-Man's on there. I believe Ocho stops by every once in a while. Brandon Marshall stops by every once in a while.
Starting point is 00:24:11 But they're on every single day. And I think there's another host. Ah, fuck. Whoever it is, I apologize. It's on me. But also, something to think about if I don't remember. Yeah, you get it he uh leshawn mccoy very good by the way yeah very good on the microphone he's fucking great he's he's done it on nfo network in a suit pretty good did his thing when he's been on the podcast when he's telling stories and just being himself shady is going to make a lot
Starting point is 00:24:42 of fucking money i think in the media world i don't know what their SiriusXM deal is with IM Athlete. I think they picked up their audio rights. I would be interested to hear how that all turned out, especially with Brandon Marshall manning that thing and from where they were, what happened, how they've been able to continue to go. Congrats to them on former players making fucking magic happen.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Hope that happens for everybody. But LeSean McCoy talked about Eric Biennemi. Here's the actual audio. You be the judge on if he was actually, you know, taking a massive shot, kind of a shot, or no shot at all. Because it did spark Andy Reid to have to respond. Me and the coordinator, we had a difference about different things, right? And I'm going to say this. It's the reason why every year they keep hyping him up to get
Starting point is 00:25:26 a coaching job, a head coach or office coordinator job from nowhere else. And you don't get one because... He's talking about Eric Bien-Aimé. You bring this up now and we got a minute to tell the truth. Some players, right, he talks to them a certain way and some players will take it. I wouldn't take
Starting point is 00:25:42 it. Like, whoa. You know, and some questions I would ask, everybody's accountable. Yeah. That's why it's not because he's a black coach. That's not the reason. The reason is that because he,
Starting point is 00:25:50 I won't get into that, but I'll say this. You can't say the reason. I mean, we ain't got nothing to get into. We got one minute.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But that's the reason why that every year they hype him up to get a job and then when the time comes, nobody hires him because they know what type of coach he really is. So you're saying Eric Biedemann is the reason why you stopped playing in Kansas City? Yeah, come on,
Starting point is 00:26:11 man. They knew what it was. Okay, good night at the end there indicates like, alright, mic drop, say something. Only got a minute left before a hard out, probably? Yeah. Okay, I respect the fact that they're respecting him more than we do. Because if that conversation was to start with a hard out coming we are not sorry about it i mean we we should have we absolutely should have hit the hard out and we apologize to the people doing
Starting point is 00:26:36 that but this conversation is one that the on the other side of the break when we come back this show will be much better because of so we sorry about it yep and this is a video show that is licensed onto sirius xm that's right and we at the time are very you know happy and pumped for our listeners on sirius xm to be a part of our community what does the future hold? I have no idea. I've not heard from anybody over there in a little bit. That's probably partially my to blame, and also them as well.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah. Follow-up. That is an interesting quote because everybody assumes Eric Biennium is going to get a head coaching gig every single offseason because of how much success that the Kansas City Chiefs have had and how much success Patrick Mahomes has had since he's become the offense coordinator. And Andy Reid has been a
Starting point is 00:27:27 staple of NFL head coaching for like 25, 30 years now at this point. You would think his right-hand man, especially on the offensive side, would be ready to man an entire football team. There's obviously conversation about what has happened in the past every single time he goes up for a gig and a job. And there's obviously a massive conversation about why is he not getting hired. LeSean McCoy throwing that in there is interesting because I don't think I've heard this from anybody else, right? I think I've heard the fact that he's like a no-nonsense, like not a player's coach or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And if that's the reason why he's not getting a job, fascinating. It's interesting. This is what Andy Reid had to say back to LeSean McCoy whenever he was asked about LeSean McCoy's comments about about Eric the Enemy from Andy Reid via Pete Sweeney. Shout out Pete Sweeney. Thank you, Pete. LaShawn McCoy wasn't the youngest pup in the kennel here in Kansas City. He was on the backside of his career, and sometimes that's hard to take.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Oh. Holy fuck. He was old. So I wonder if, let's just start brainstorming here, and if I would have heard this long beforehand, should have probably reached out exactly to LeSean to hear what the story is.
Starting point is 00:28:31 We'll try to do that this weekend, but there might have been a time where Eric Bien-Ami said something about the younger guy able to do something that LeSean isn't able to do. And LeSean,
Starting point is 00:28:40 if you look at everything he's accomplished, his numbers, he's a Hall of Fame fucking running back who absolutely changed the game. And I don't think he gets viewed that way for whatever reason because on the teams that he won the Super Bowl with, he wasn't the pivotal part. But if you look back at his career, he was normally the pivotal part of a team, electrifying, explosive, untouchable, carried the ball like literally in his own way that everybody thought
Starting point is 00:29:06 he'd be a fumbler. Wasn't a fumbler. Actually made him faster, quicker. Saw him in college. Fucking stud in college. Great football player. So if there's a guy taking shots or disrespectful to him, you can see how he maybe will get upset about it.
Starting point is 00:29:19 But is that what BNME always does? We don't know because we've never heard anybody really talk about how he is as a coach. And Andy Reid took quite a shot back there, LaShawn McCoy. I'm excited to hear I Am Athlete Tonight tonight on SiriusXM, pal. I mean, I think him and Andy Reid, he's talked, I mean, at least last time he came on our show, about how good of a relationship they have. So I wonder if this really does piss him off.
Starting point is 00:29:39 But he's not wrong about BNME, is he? I mean, like, at this point, isn't it possible that people are just like, oh, this guy, he might be a good OC, but, like, he's not going to be a good head coach. Because if he does continue to get, I mean, it is. Every single offseason, it's all Bien-Ami's going to get a job. Bien-Ami's going to get a job. And he is getting interviews. And everybody always says, like, he's a bad interviewer or whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It's like, well, what if he's just, like, a dick? Yeah. And they're like, oh, don't want to do business with this guy. I don't know. Who knows? And maybe other players say the same things whenever they're being reached out to by GMs. Like, hey, what was it like to play for this guy, like veterans or anything? And the vet's like, oh, he did this, this, and this.
Starting point is 00:30:16 We never really get to hear any of that because it's always he should have got a job. Why didn't he get a job? So I do appreciate LeSean McCoy actually adding at least a little bit more information from a perspective that's been there, done that, and been around the NFL a lot. I appreciate that. But I don't think it's going to end. It's probably going to continue. I assume every Kansas City Chiefs player is going to have to come out and say they love Eric Bien-Aimé.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And they're not going to have to. But when asked about Eric Bien-Aimé, these guys said that they absolutely love him. Well, they're still around him every single day. So you can never know what's real and what isn't. I assume it's probably a mixture of both. He's probably a dick, but he's probably an incredibly talented football coach. And I guess that's how a lot of situations can possibly be.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah, I was just about to say, I think we might be in a situation where both can be true, where Shady was at the very end of his career and Bien-Ami can also be a dick. So congrats to all parts. Yeah. We're pretty happy for him.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I mean, but Andy, did Andy have to do that? I don't know. Did Andy have to go to bat for Eric Bien-Ami because Andy knows it's on him and his coaching tree if Eric Bien-Ami gets another head coaching gig? I don't know. Because there's quite a statement by Andy. Every offseason, though, Andy Reid's always like, I'm eating a cheeseburger. I'm watching film.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Look at my Hawaiian shirt. We got to change something. We tried this. This didn't work. This happened. Good laugh. This one, I think he was probably, the way he delivered that was probably laughing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I assume it was in passing and as a joke. But when he put it on paper there, he's old. Not the youngest pup in the kennel. I mean, he was an old bastard out there, basically, when he was playing with us, man. But Biennium being the OC under Andy Reid definitely doesn't help him either. It's not as if Biennium is the guy making all the game plans, calling all the plays.
Starting point is 00:31:55 It's like defensive coordinators under Belichick. It's like, okay, sure, you're the DC, but at the end of the day, is this the guy that's really making the final decision? And that's another reason why you wouldn't want to bring Biennium in. Aside from, hey, he's bringing Andy Reid's system. It doesn't mean he knows how to call it. He's just bringing it with him. That seems to happen a lot, right?
Starting point is 00:32:12 Like McVay's coordinators get hired, right? Yeah. Tim O'Connell just got hired for the Minnesota Vikings. And our conversation with him, he was fucking awesome. Hey, he was a cool guy. Staley. Good convo. No, well, on this particular case, McVay's calling all those plays. Oh fucking awesome. Hey, he was a cool guy. Staley. Good convo. No, well, on this particular case, McVay's calling all those plays.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, McVay's calling all the plays, right? He's the one probably designing all the shit. Kevin O'Connell definitely helping. I'd assume he's in the conversation. But just assuming that he'll be able to do it all now, that he's all by himself, I bet you there's other coaches that are like, all right,
Starting point is 00:32:41 will this guy be able to do what Sean McVay was able to do because he was around Sean McVay? Was he able to learn from McVay? Was he able to take what he already had in the past, add to McVay and become this multi much better coach. But I do believe that assumption is like, not always like, yeah, they'll be able to just do exactly what that other person did. And Belichick might be partially to blame for that because not just defense
Starting point is 00:33:01 coordinators, offense coordinators, everybody that left the Bill Belichick tree that had been there, known that, they basically all stink at being a head coach. And it's like, well, how did that happen? You were there for so long. You're right. It's an interesting dynamic, especially when it comes to hiring somebody that's supposed to lead your program in multi-billion program
Starting point is 00:33:18 to a multi-billion dollar program to hire him. That's an interesting thing, judging how somebody's going to work without the person that is really doing all the work. i look like lefleur too like when he was with the rams he was like the quarterbacks coach it's the same deal so he's not even the oc and then he gets the oc job in tennessee but i think like now he is finally starting to like like i don't i don't want to say he was unprepared to be a head coach but i think it is like you realize once you're calling all the plays and doing anything it's like like, oh, shit, this is maybe a lot more than I bargained for. McDaniel now, right?
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yep. We're going to find out what, because McDaniel, when he went to Atlanta, they were awesome. San Francisco, they were awesome. He was alongside Kyle Shanahan. He gets a lot of credit for a lot of things. A run game coordinator, which everybody talks about Shanahan's baby being the run game.
Starting point is 00:34:02 So what will McDaniel do down in miami without kyle shanahan a lot of questions for that might fizzle out might be incredible and i know gumpy your early thoughts on mcdaniel as a coach out of otas is he doing daily press and is the team talking about how they're performing out there is the press saying good looking offense they got going right now haven't really heard too much but everybody is there which is awesome i had otas and i mean it's an offensive coach that's what we wanted we had fucking a defensive coach forever so it's something different that miami uh base yeah it's pretty good to have everybody at otas yeah because i assume there's other guys from around the nfl
Starting point is 00:34:35 that are in miami they're like is there any way i can come and use your facility yeah training is there any way i can use the field after you guys are done over there? Just get this thing. Oh, Lamar. He's not in there. Chat about Lamar not being at OTAs. Can't anymore. After Chris Sims said something. Relax. No, he's also a South Florida guy.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Okay, all right, all right, all right. That's the only reason I said that. All right. That's why, like, the Kyler thing is interesting, because Kyler probably lives in Phoenix full-time. That city is a place where people go live and spend their off-season. So if he's spending his off-season there and he's choosing not to go to the building, interesting. Is it worthy of a convo?
Starting point is 00:35:09 I don't know. Lamar said, listen, these are voluntary, okay? There's probably other quarterbacks not going to these voluntary. I'll go to them whenever I might. Not on your schedule, though, basically. Lamar Jackson continues to be one of the best Twitter follows on all of Twitter. Fucking love that he did not quit Twitter the other day whenever somebody was taking his words out of context
Starting point is 00:35:30 or whatever. He basically said, I'll go when I want to go. Okay, it's voluntary. I'm putting my work in. Shout to my coach in the next tweet. Lamar said to Chris Sims after Chris Sims basically said that, you know, Lamar at one point said he wanted to be Tom Brady. Brady wouldn't be missing OTAs year after year or whatever. And we all know that that is categorically false, actually, because Tom Brady and Bruce Arians actually got into a public spout last offseason about Tom Brady doing his own workouts in the offseason instead of the OTAs. And the vets that were at the Tom Brady OTAs that were happening in the same city, just not at the building, were being called out
Starting point is 00:36:08 by Bruce Aarons. Bruce Aarons was saying, some of those fucking guys think they're on a team. Some of those guys might not make the team. They want to come back to these OTAs. So, categorically false in all of them. I guess at the beginning of Tom's career, he was at every single one. But it's become very common practice for him to be posting videos online of his
Starting point is 00:36:24 training happening elsewhere than the facility. It's voluntary. COVID voluntary COVID I think has changed a lot of people's thoughts and views on it too with the way the schedule is and do you actually need to be there if the offense remains the same the pieces remain the same back in the day it used to be everybody kind of has to go and if you don't go you'll get shamed by the media like Chris Sims is doing right now to Lamar nowadays it's much more like yeah his body guru who's only focusing on him and is probably better than being there with the entire team, especially if he knows everybody and knows the offense. He says, Lamar wants to be Lamar, Chris, not Tom Brady. This part of OTAs is voluntary. My guy, I will be there. Just not on your watch. It's probably other QBs not attending voluntary OTAs either, but since it's
Starting point is 00:37:03 Lamar, it's a huge deal. Find something else to talk about, dude. Fucking proper burial of Chris Sims from Lamar speaking in third person on his Twitter. There's a lot of quarterbacks not in OTAs right now. It's becoming common practice. They work out together. They work out with their friends, and they show up at the mandatory one
Starting point is 00:37:21 and keep it moving. As long as the product in the fall doesn't suffer, nobody's going to give a single fuck either. Well, and I feel like the voluntary OTAs, specifically for the Ravens, are like, okay, Lamar is our offense. We are going to teach you exactly what you need to do for Lamar to be successful.
Starting point is 00:37:36 It's not like they're putting in a whole new system that Lamar has to learn. Like, he is the system. Which I guess would go into Chrisris simms you know conversation like if everything's shaped around you how are these people supposed to learn without you but is lamar jackson going 150 because that's what it becomes whenever the season is happening lamar kicks it into another gear out of nowhere makes a decision that who knows if he had planned for we talked to yonda right yeah yonda was like well lamar just makes like however i balk a
Starting point is 00:38:05 guy yeah lamar's gonna make it right in that whole thing so lamar being the best athlete and the best him he could possibly be makes the ravens even better that's why he's trained down there in miami with his coach he said yeah and uh if they didn't have that backup and i forget his name per summary brett huntley maybe i don't think that's the right one but the guy tyler huntley who came in who was a stud. Like he's not exactly I can't believe he didn't get traded. Yeah. He was, yeah. Honestly. Right in the season we were talking about this guy.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Hey, people are going to fucking want this dude on their squad. Then it came to the quarterback carousel that was happening and his name wasn't mentioned once. Maybe the Ravens just said we ain't trading him. I wrote fuck all. The good guy they're going to when you're a franchise quarterback won't sign a long-term contract. Yeah, there has to be a thought that he could be leaving Baltimore. Has to be.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And because of all the success Huntley had. To your defense, also, Brett Huntley is also with the Ravens. Okay. Oh, well. Huntley and Huntley. Tyler Huntley, Brett Huntley, and Lamar Jackson. All Baltimore Ravens right now? Yeah. Lamar's like, you guys are fucking, you got enough.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah, what do you mean? They got it. You know I would love to take a shot at the Ravens right now? Yeah. Lamar's like, you guys are fucking – you got enough. Yeah, what do you mean? They got it. Bring a couple other arms. You know I would love to take a shot at the Ravens and Lamar Jackson, but you can't do it here. I mean, like – Why? Why can't you do it personally? You're like – now you're like Foxy apologizing.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Well, because I got no problem with Lamar not being there. I mean, they didn't change the offensive coordinators. He's been there forever. If he's working out in Miami – like, if it was a new offensive coordinator, yeah, be there. Like, because you got to learn stuff. Or if you're new coordinator, yeah, be there because you've got to learn stuff. Or if you're new to a team, be there or whatever, but in this situation. I will.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I'll tell you, shut up. He's got a new center. Lost his most talented wide receiver. He's got a lot of young receivers out there, guys he hasn't played with really before. Frankie Chris James. That guy brings up a good point. Yeah, I mean, he does. He's probably working out with the new young receivers.
Starting point is 00:39:46 All I know is Mitch Trubisky's at camp. Hell, yeah. Benny Pickett's at camp. Cut Mason Rudolph. He doesn't need to be at camp. Well, Kenny Pickett actually, like, I think has to be there. Okay? Mitch Trubisky, like, actually has to be there.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I don't think – that'd be awesome if he didn't. Voluntary, right? Yeah, okay. I'll see a man tour once. That'd be amazing if a rookie did that. I think that'd be awesome if he didn't. Voluntary, right? Yeah, okay. I'll see a man tour once. That'd be amazing if a rookie did that. I think that'd be great. I think the Bosa's held out a little bit to get the guaranteed money up there. I'm not sure if Kenny Pickett's doing any of that.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Trubisky's going there because Kenny Pickett was drafted 20th, so he has to be there. Vastly different situation than Lamar Jackson, who's a previous MVP. Follow-up. If I was from Miami, I think it would be very difficult to travel to a lot of these cities in the offseason for fucking meaningless workouts that I'm just walking through. Offenses that I already know
Starting point is 00:40:33 at a very basic level because they have to teach the people that are brand new to the team and rookies who haven't played in the NFL yet what each play is. Okay, so you're going to line up here and they're walking with baseball hats on or or no hats with beanies on their head beanies on their head okay red beanies a tight end yellow beanies and eggs or age and guys are just walking for like two like a week i believe a week or two
Starting point is 00:40:59 phase one walking the routes and then turning around. And other offense players are playing defense. So you're playing corner. Lamar's potentially playing corner while somebody is walking, but you can't touch each other. Can't touch each other. Then you go there. Then you do that.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Then you go into the film and you watch everybody walking the routes and the block and the blitz pickup and everything for like two weeks. It's literally your playbook less than one Oh one. Cause you have to actually teach NFL football first. Then you get into your playbook. Then you do that. So I think if I was from Miami and I played an actual position, it'd be fucking very difficult to get me to go back to a town that maybe has
Starting point is 00:41:40 gloom and doom and rain all the fucking time. And I think we are becoming a society more that it's like, yeah, I could see that being a little bit of a difficult challenge as well. He probably doesn't want to have to get COVID from Jimmy's. He's still a lot of COVID. That's a good point. Oh, yeah, because he might be isolated. He might be wearing a mask.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Could be. We don't know. Also, it's not like he's getting just boozed up. He's golfing. I mean, and he's putting work in. Top golfing. He's top golfing. You know what I mean? He's top golfing. Yeah, but he's putting work in. Top golfing. He's top golfing. You know what I mean? He's top golfing.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Yeah, but he is putting work in, I'd assume. Like you mentioned, he's probably getting more out of that than what he would going back to Baltimore and just fucking playing grab ass, you know, while you get ready. It's like he's got his regimen that he knows works. I'm sure he's not fucking loafing down there.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I enjoy the thought, though, that there's somebody that is a Baltimore Ravens fan. Yep. Well, he's in our fucking quarterback. Soul man. Doesn't like the team. Give me some Jimmy's fucking crab cakes. We've got to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:42:35 That's what Harbaugh said. Remember the tweets? He said, ask Lamar. No, that was about the deal. No, this is about why he wasn't at OTAs, too. He just said it the other day. So Harbaugh's new de facto answer is ask them ask ask them hey how come you guys haven't signed lamar jackson do a
Starting point is 00:42:50 long-term deal ask lamar dude that's me we've listen what he just would he come into the office maybe we'd be if i can be able to do a deal would love to do that it's his decision and i think harbaugh then defended lamar right he said yeah we can talk about your contract with your employer, too. You want to raise immediately if that's what you would like to get into. But since it's football, and now he's saying ask Lamar why he's not at OTAs or whatever. Yeah, his exact words were, it's for him to talk about. Okay, so Harbaugh's like, I'm not speaking for Lamar. Lamar's Lamar.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Let Lamar do his thing. And with that being said, we still plan on playing Lamar as much as Lamar can play this upcoming fall, even though he missed these first couple days of OTAs. And we assume he's going to come back in great shape. Why?
Starting point is 00:43:33 If he waits another year, plays great football, that number, what, might be $60 million a year, $55, $60 million a year? Of course. Rodgers got $50 now. And if you're signing a five-year deal or a four-year deal,
Starting point is 00:43:45 that's $50 million more than you'd be getting right now. But at some point, I applaud his discipline. I applaud his ability to look at a piece of paper that probably says $250 million guaranteed or $200 million guaranteed. Whoever you are, that's a tough thing to look at and be like, let's hold off for another fucking maybe $60, $75 million. Because in the grand scheme of things, just like we tried to tell Staley, $200 million is a lot more than like $0.
Starting point is 00:44:23 But $200 million, not not same as $300 million. So it's like being able to have that amount of confidence, faith, and, you know, that takes some real courage to be like, nah, let's go another one. Let's take this tractor another round. I think I can build this thing even bigger. Fuck, it makes me love the dude. Flacco did this in Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:44:46 In the same exact city. Flacco went into his last year of his contract. They offered him something. I don't think it was top tier money. Elite money. Then he goes and wins the Super Bowl. Gets a $100 million deal after that. Boom. Bet on himself. So they've seen it in Baltimore. He also wasn't a guy that went to OTAs, I don't think. I believe Joe Flacco wasn't a guy that went to OTAs.
Starting point is 00:45:02 So I'm impressed that the Baltimore media is potentially upset. That seems to be a little bit interesting if that is happening. I don went to OTA. So I'm impressed that the Baltimore media is potentially upset. That seems to be a little bit interesting if that is happening. I don't know. I'm sorry I'm throwing swords in errors at things I do not know. Well, in that thought process with the contract, like we just saw with Dak. Dak franchise tagged. He got his leg taken off, and then he basically was holding out
Starting point is 00:45:18 until they would pay him the $160 or $70 that he accepted. And he got offered like the $130. And we were saying, why is he in this after he got hurt? Yeah, it's like, how are you going to say no to that much money after you just got hurt? And, I mean, Jerry still ended up giving him, yeah, 160 million or something. Joining us now, the man who sings that song, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion,
Starting point is 00:45:45 Friday Cup champion, co-surviv survivor, A.J. Rock. Yeah! A.J. Rock. A.J. Rock. What's going on, A.J. Rock? What are you talking about? Who are you referencing? All right, so summertime in northern Michigan is happening for Foxy this weekend,
Starting point is 00:45:59 and we're all very pumped for you, Foxy. Go enjoy yourself. But with that being said, yeah, stop talking shit on fucking Pittsburgh. There's been enough. By the way, a movie that Pittsburgh is not depicted well in that was obviously massive
Starting point is 00:46:11 had a Mick legend that was being represented in it, passed away. Rest in peace to Ray Liotta. Thank you for everything, sir. Thank you, Ray. Job well served for all of us, I think. Love you, Ray.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Talk to you soon. Love you, Ray. Love you, Ray. everything sir thank you job well served for all of us i think you're right only 67 years old man he was awesome died in his sleep they said right filming a movie right something in the dominican film in a movie yeah they said there was no outside they just died in his sleep at 67. i didn't know that happens anymore that's the way to do it yeah that is definitely the way to do it every time you envision you're like i'll just fall asleep and i'll never wake up but you're like 80 i think like 80 not 67 feels right i mean am i the only one yeah no yeah you're right that's that's not a hey hey fucking hell of a job he did for our society though with the way he you know brought entertainment of entertainment. What a guy.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Preston P. The best pistol-whipping scene I've seen in a movie in a long time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, how about that one shot through the kitchen? Right? In that movie? That's the best.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Is that the best shot in the history of movies? A lot of people would say that, yeah. Fucking wall. I was talking to Ty about it the other day. The camera size back in the day, too. Like, that thing's ginormous. Yeah, every actor, though, can't fuck up. Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Hey, listen, if one of you fuck up in this entire, you the entire, obviously, but if one of anybody, and there's one chef that looks directly at the camera, it's like, you fucking stooge. Everybody else, everybody else was great. There's only one in there. Rest in peace, Ray. We appreciate the hell out of you. That's a shame.
Starting point is 00:47:49 That's obviously a damn shame for everyone. There it is. Track me all day, Karen. Good Karen. Great Karen. What was there? It was 23 seconds of him saying Karen. That hit the internet last night.
Starting point is 00:47:58 That was obviously incredible to watch. All right, let's move on. AJ, listen. Need to hear your thoughts on Eric Bien-Ami and LeSean McCoy and Andy Reid, pal. Need it. This is the offseason. It's May 27th. There ain't nothing else to talk about.
Starting point is 00:48:11 LeSean McCoy, though, said Eric Bien-Ami might be a hard-ass coach, and people find that out, and maybe that's not what they want to hire in the modern era, and that is also why he didn't go back to Kansas City, I believe is what was said on I Am Athlete Tonight on Sirius XM, Channel 82, Mad Dog Sports Radio. Your thoughts on this, AJ? And do you think that the conversation around Eric Bien-Ami not getting a job every offseason
Starting point is 00:48:34 is never about like maybe his coaching style isn't what that place wants? That's never the conversation. And now LeSean McCoy has been like he thinks that should be a little bit more of the convo. It felt like whenever he was chatting last night. Yeah, it does. And seeing both sides of it, seeing what Andy Reid said afterwards, and I've talked to, I think I've mentioned on the show, over the last couple years, I was curious why BNME wasn't getting hired.
Starting point is 00:48:59 So I would talk to guys that have played for the Chiefs when he was there, and they all said great glowing things about him, like how much, hey, the dude, he's honest, guys. He holds them accountable. He makes sure they do everything right. He's not messing around. But those guys didn't play for him. They weren't running backs.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I haven't talked to any running backs. It's different. When it's not your position, coach, it's a lot easier to have closer relationships, I think, with other coaches if they're not directly coaching you every single day. Concur. I always got along very well with almost, not that I didn't get along with my direct coach, but my direct coach and I had a very different relationship, I think, than with
Starting point is 00:49:35 everybody else in the building. Fascinating. Very fascinating to think about. And LeSean, though, where he was at in his career, like, who knows what went on there? Like, how many, they had a bunch of running backs already there. Like, who knows? I love LeSean, though, where he was at in his career, like who knows what went on there. Like how many – they had a bunch of running backs already there. Like who knows? Like I love LeSean. The dude is an unbelievable player and talker.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Hey, Shady, unbelievable. You're 100%. Hall of Fame, if you put his numbers up against anybody, plus with his rings now, I mean he's Hall of Fame now. But I think the world saw him at his most in the primetime games with the last couple teams he played for, as opposed to the teams he began with in that entire thing the whole thought though that that offense that they've done in kansas city has been so successful and i think leshawn might have understood that he was at a later stage in his
Starting point is 00:50:16 career i think maybe just the way something was handled it sounded like the way a situation might have been handled you know like maybe a couple different encounters like the way things some things were said to leshawn as like leshawn going well you could have fucking said it as a vet yeah like he basically said hey he how he talks to dudes like i'm not a rookie is basically what it sounded like he was saying yeah so i haven't talked to leshawn directly i should have bad hosting but it feels like there was a couple situations where leshawn probably was like man hey hold the fuck on like you could uh you could have said that in a much different fashion to me. We might be wrong, but to
Starting point is 00:50:48 Diggs' point, both could be right. Both could be 100% right in this situation. And the only reason why we're chatting about it is because it is May 27th. But that offense has been so successful. Did you see the stat that came out earlier this week? And I forget who did it and I apologize that I'm forgetting
Starting point is 00:51:04 their name the most receiving yards over the last six seasons travis fucking kelsey okay travis kelsey has the most receiving yards over the last six seasons okay just ohio guy by the way you got to be pumped about this travis kelsey's friend of the show absolute 7,269 receiving yards over the last six seasons. Number two, Devontae fucking Adams. 7,192 yards. A lot of yards. Julio Jones, number three. Nobody talks about that.
Starting point is 00:51:33 7,129 yards. Shout out Matt Ryan. Hey, let's go, Matt. DeAndre Hopp. They passed for so many yards five years together. It's absurd. They didn't get any yards last year. That's what Matt Ryan is. That's what the fuck Matt Ryan is. Let's go, dude.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Let's go. Anyways, Julio, you can come too. DeAndre Hopkins, 7,048 yards. He was the offense with Kyler Murray there for a long time. Fuck it. DeAndre's down there somewhere is an actual meme for a reason. Then Mike Evans, who is bald with Jameis and Tom Brady. But Travis Kelsey and what that, you know, I would have thought Tyreek Hill would be up there.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Honestly, I would have thought that. Travis Kelsey being the guy that Patrick Mahomes goes to and the guy that really can change the math, I believe in the Kansas City Chiefs mind, has what really opened up their entire offense and has had Eric Bien-Ami's resume built so quickly with the success of this team. They are so, Travis Kelsey's changing the fucking game. So much so that George Kittle went on PFTPM and was basically like, Travis Kelsey's underpaid.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I mean, he absolutely is. He's the best receiver in the fucking game, if you look at it. And as of late, he's been trying to become a better blocker. He said that on this show. He said, as I've gotten older, I've tried to become a better blocker because that was kind of something people said about me, and he's not getting paid like he's the top receiver.
Starting point is 00:52:51 He's getting paid like he's a tight end. Travis Kelsey came out and responded and said that money is secondary in my mind right now. I'm here for the legacy, and I'm here to try and make the Kansas City Chiefs the best team possible. That was via Charles Goldman, who is a part of the Goldman standard. So with all that being said, I think Kittle was just talking about the value of tight ends as a whole, not just necessarily Travis Kelsey's decision.
Starting point is 00:53:16 But they have a fucking point. Did you expect a tight end to be the top receiver over the last six years? I did not. And I watch Travis Kelsey, I feel like, every single week on national television. I definitely did not. And that's the first time I actually saw that stat. I knew that Kittle came out and said that Kelsey was underpaid and I saw Kelsey's comments. And by
Starting point is 00:53:34 the way, that's the perfect thing for Kelsey to say. His agent can still be grinding on the team and the GM be like, hey man, we gotta take care of this dude. Obviously he's gonna say and do all the right things. He's going to be here. He wants to be here, but let's keep it that way.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Let's make sure we show him that we do appreciate what he's done here. I'm sure the Chiefs want to work something out or they want to reward him. I don't know. He's just such a valuable dude. Watching them talk through that clip with he and Pat Mahomes when he's telling, do it, Kels, do it, Kels, and he's doing all that situation when they're talking at the line in such a critical moment in the game, the ability
Starting point is 00:54:08 to have that relationship with Patrick Mahomes, I mean, you can't put a price tag on that. Yeah, the chemistry. Also on the sideline, every time he's mic'd up, it feels like he's the guy that's like, hey, let's go. He's the guy that brings the juice for the team, too. He's out there, he's wild, he dances, he's not scared to really speak his
Starting point is 00:54:24 mind. He's just a great leader for that squad. A different type of leader, too, I feel like. Yeah, fucking goes about his business in Travis Kelsey's fashion. Like, hey, Travis Kelsey. Not a corporate. Yeah, he's not doing what he feels like he should be doing. He's not doing, like, the corporate thing. Oh, I've got to protect my brand.
Starting point is 00:54:39 He's just being him. And I think that's what's awesome about he and his brother, actually. Authenticity. You know, he's an Ohio fucking guy. You know what it's hard? He's an Ohio guy at his heart. I respect it. But I think Kittle's bigger point was like, these dudes are making $30 million a year.
Starting point is 00:54:54 We're doing their job and another job. We're doing their job and another job. And with the way offenses are going, largely, I guess, because the way the Chiefs have had so much success with Travis Kelsey, there's other people trying to duplicate it. Gronkowski, obviously, has been doing it for a long time. But whenever you find that guy and you do it, you can see why the tight ends in tight end university is only going to grow because I think they're going to come together and be like, hey, we are one of us have to just be like, nah, we're taking it.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Like somebody has to do it because the tight end position has evolved from the just blocking one person's a blocking tight end the other one now it's like you are a wide out and you are also a chipper and a blocker as well it's much different it's it's fascinating right tackle sometimes they trust you to be the right or like usually hopefully not the left but they'll put you one-on-one on dns and outside backers at times like that's a huge responsibility yeah i can see why the tight ends are potentially in. By the way, they have to be incredibly intelligent at the tight end position. You have to be very smart because you have to pick up blocking, blitzing, and also you might have to reroute what you have going on.
Starting point is 00:55:54 So I think they've always been super team first. Like I think the tight end position is natural, like team first, team first, team first. So when it comes to contract time and you're like, hey, you're going to be highest paid tight end of all time, I think some tight ends have probably been like, I don't know if I want to be the highest paid tight end of all time, but you're nowhere near what you actually are worth,
Starting point is 00:56:11 which I think is what Kittle and them have been talking about ad nauseum here. Well, and I'd love to see where he ranks as far as touchdowns in the last six seasons, because he is my home's go-to guy against the Bills in overtime. Third down conversions. Third down conversions, touchdowns, and receiving yards. Let's see if Travis Kelsey is the guy. He's probably up there in all of them.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And it's not even like, oh, well, you know, Tyreek Hill on the field, that helps. Like, what he does in Kittle and Andrews and Waller, like when they have the ball, is even more impressive. Like, it takes multiple guys to bring it down. Against the Chargers in overtime, he probably caught like a 10-yard drag, and then he took it like 40 yards to win the game. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Well, to your point, too, like, you know, I mean, these good players, when you see a guy like Christian Kirk making that money, and then all these, like, elite, elite tight ends, and it's like, well, you know, what the hell is going on here? Like, this isn't right. And GMs do not want us to be having the conversation we're having right now. And they do not want, you know, Bub Light sponsoring
Starting point is 00:57:03 tight end university because when those boys start tapping open, yeah, fuck right with somebody. Thank you for saying that. I sound like an asshole whenever I say, we fucking deserve more money, right? We're doing a lot of jobs here.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah, Bud Light's probably the reason that the Charmins about to come out. Kelsey is sixth in touchdowns over the past six seasons. They go to all those goal line plays they run that involve him too, though. His football IQ is insane. He's pitching the ball.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Think about the other weapons they've had where he's still number six in touchdowns. All the other weapons that they've had him. It's un-fucking-believable. He's not about money. He has made a lot of money over his career. He's been in the NFL a long time. He said he just wants to build a team,
Starting point is 00:57:40 which is respect. But I do believe, and Kelsey probably knows this, all Kittle was talking about was like... It's basically these guys. Caps going up. We need a little bit more. Joining us now is from a different sport, but he is an insider.
Starting point is 00:57:56 All of it. That's right. Knows everything that's about to happen in the association, everything that has happened in the association. Senior insider for the athletic and the stadium. Ladies and gentlemen, Shams Sharanya. Hey, Shams. What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:58:09 I did not wear black today. I didn't get the memo this morning, unfortunately. Shams, every fucking day, Shams. You hear me? Every day. I want it. I want it. Same costume, me, Steve Jobs, AJ Hawk.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Let's move on. Because then it takes just a little bit of time and attention and emotion and energy out of your morning to not have to pick what you're wearing. Oh, there's 60 black tank tops there. I'm going to wear one of those. That's what AJ's done with baseball shirts now. That's right. Black baseball shirts.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And Shams, every once in a while, you want to dabble into our department, just wear all black. I'm sure you look amazing. Pull that at big events. But you can rock anything. Can't he? Yeah, Shams But you can rock anything. Can't he? Yeah, it doesn't matter. You can rock anything, Shams. I think I'm just going to start wearing black on this show.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Here we go. Starting from today on, I'm only wearing black. All right. Let's go. We'll fucking see, won't we? You've got a lot going on in your life. We'll see if you remember that. Let's dive into it.
Starting point is 00:59:00 You broke the news this morning. Congratulations to not only you, but also the Joker. Back-to-back MVP just signed for $260 million Supermax to stay in Denver. This guy doesn't get national television time enough, I think, personally, as somebody that's a casual watcher of the NBA. When I was watching him play in the playoffs, it was really my first time watching full games of this guy as opposed to just clips. He's fucking awesome. This dude's one of one. Is that what we're assuming?
Starting point is 00:59:29 That's what the Nuggets are assuming? And are they going to build a team around this guy, Shams? He's obviously one of the best players in the game. Back-to-back MVP. And where he's come from is remarkable. Picked in the 40s. No one expected Nikola J yoki to be like this but pat the reason why this was a story for us today is that tim connelly uh the president of the denver nuggets left to go take
Starting point is 00:59:52 a 40 million dollar deal with equity in minnesota and when anytime your top executive this is a guy that drafted nicole yoki has been running the organization for the last nine years uh has put them in position to compete for championships there There's going to be questions about the long-term future of Denver, but I'm told there were meetings that occurred in the last several days, phone calls between Nikola Jokic, Nuggets management, a face-to-face between the Jokic brothers, as well as the new head of basketball, Calvin Booth, in Denver. And they all got together to just make sure they were all on the same page and aligned moving forward. And the answer is yes.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Nikola Jokic is fully committed. He fully intends to sign that five-year $260 million deal. That will make him the richest, highest-paid player of league history. But it will go down sometime in July when he's eligible to sign that Supermax extension. So, yes, congrats are in order for Nikola Jokic. He is then committed to Denver. But I think the questions around that franchise really started to come up in the last few days
Starting point is 01:00:53 because they lost their president of Bass Operations to Minnesota. But good news for Denver. They still have Nikola Jokic. They still plan to compete. Congrats. Congrats, everybody. That was a no-effect when it can be in July. Go ahead, AJ.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Shams, can you explain that? The president going to Minnesota, getting a $40 million deal. I remember reading about it with equity. What's his title there? And is that a commonplace, like to get equity and sign such a big deal for front office? Is that A-Rod? That is. That's Alex Rodriguez and Mark Lurie.
Starting point is 01:01:22 They were obviously heading up the pursuit of Tim Connolly going from Denver to Minnesota. But, AJ, it's definitely not the norm for an executive to get ownership equity. But what we're seeing now is Minnesota is operating that team. It's a small market, but they're operating it like a big market organization. So for them to go lure one of the top five, six executives in the league to Minnesota when Tim Connolly had an option year, but he was still technically a Denver Nugget. But for them to lure him on that hefty of a salary, $8 million per year for the next five years, he's got ownership equity that I'm told will be able to cash out depending on whenever that team sells again. So, again, it might not be in the next decade. It might not be in the next two decades. But Tim Connolly, his grandkids, grandkids, or whenever that team sells, they'll be taken care of.
Starting point is 01:02:14 And that's the type of negotiation. That's the type of deal that you have to throw out for a guy if you want to lure him to Minnesota. We saw a full-court press being put on by Minnesota to go get a guy like that. It is definitely not the norm. This is a landmark deal for the Timberwolves organization. Congrats to the Lardys and future generations. The Conleys there. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:02:36 You also just broke news that Gary Payton II will be coming back for the finals for the Golden State Warriors that appear to be, they're going to be tough to stop at this particular point. I mean, even if, you know, Steph is having an off night or choosing not to shoot threes and just pass the ball all the time, and Klay Thompson can go for 32. Jordan Poole can do the same damn thing. I heard it on the game last night. He has the highest free throw percentage in the NBA.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Higher than Steph. Higher than Steph. In the entire NBA. Doesn't shoot the technical foul free throws because Steph's the greatest free throw shooter in the history of the game. Only team in the history of the game, I guess, where that has taken place. Then you come for Draymond Green making a three, what, once every couple games? That's right.
Starting point is 01:03:15 And it's like, holy shit, this dude's swatting everybody. I mean, that team feels like they're just a runaway right now. Gary Payton's back. That's big news. Is anybody going to stop them at this point? I mean, they have to be the favorites, right? But at this point, I'm done. I'm done. I was talking about Phoenix a few weeks
Starting point is 01:03:29 ago. I'm done saying who's going to win a championship. But I think the good thing about this is Sean! Come on! Sean! Sean! All season, they've looked good. They're deep. They've got players everywhere across the roster. You're talking about Jordan Poole would be a starter on most every team in the league.
Starting point is 01:03:48 He's a sixth man on Golden State. Draymond Green, the energy that he's playing with. And there was a moment in time I think the Warriors really feared Draymond Green might be done for the season. Would he need to have back surgery? And he ends up rehabbing that back. The guy is just a warrior. He ends up playing and really finding his game shape when he came back that last month of the season. And he's been a defensive player of the year.
Starting point is 01:04:12 This is why he was a frontrunner for defensive player of the year before he got hurt. So he's back. He's looking engaged. Klay Thompson, what do you have, 32 points last night? He's looking like he's finding his form. And next year, guys, I think he's going to be even more dangerous next year because I think he's still a little bit behind where he probably would want to be defensively. But once he gets back to that two-way form that he had before the injury,
Starting point is 01:04:35 he's going to be even more dangerous. And I think Steph Curry is playing. He can play like this up until he's 40 years old to me unless he gets hurt. So this team is deep. They're legit. And I think we spoke on monday or tuesday i said andre godala the hope is that he's back for the nba finals from that cervical disc injury well gary payton the second uh just you know report on it a little bit ago
Starting point is 01:04:56 sources tell me he will be returning in the nba finals after that hard fall he had on his elbow fractured his elbow he had some ligament damage but four weeks later, I'm told he has a very, very strong chance to play in game one next Thursday against either Boston or Miami. Well, you teased Iguodala there. You got news? You kind of, you know what I mean? We already got picked up. Pat, he got re-aggregated everywhere.
Starting point is 01:05:21 The hope is that he returns in the finals, yes. Okay, so that's still the hope. That is still the hope. Sounds like you're saying that. Sounds like it. Sounds like the way you're saying it. Gary Payton II. I'm a little bit more sure and confident.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Gary Payton II. Congrats, Gary, by the way. Great to have you back. That's great news. He is a dog, though. I mean, the way he plays. Of course, Gary Payton. Ferociously, he guarded John Morant.
Starting point is 01:05:43 The glove. He's such a tough-minded player, a guy that went undrafted. Imagine the shit talk his dad has done to him his entire life. Ruthless. Oh, my God. I bet he is an absolute dog. That guy, ready to go. Now let's talk about Iggy.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Sounds like you think he's definitely back for the finals. That's awesome, Sean. Thanks for breaking it. Yeah. We'll see what happens. I mean, we'll see. Gary Payton II, he will be back in the finals. Hope game one.
Starting point is 01:06:09 We'll see what they can dial up. Man. Just saying. Man, this guy. I thought we had him. All right, let's move to the Eastern Conference here that is still a battle between Boston and Miami. Feels like everybody is hurt in that game, in that entire series.
Starting point is 01:06:24 I don't know about Boston, you know, but Miami, everybody on their team is hurt. Is that kind of how this is playing out? And obviously, you would think that the Boston Celtics are inevitably much more favored to win that, especially with Draymond Green saying we're playing Boston probably. Is everybody in Miami hurt? And how many people know this? And why is everything so quiet almost, it feels like? Yeah, it's tough for Miami because, I I mean Kyle Lowry's injury we all know
Starting point is 01:06:49 about right he had the hamstring it's always tough it's always touch and go with hamstrings they can flare up at any moment but he's he's gonna play tonight Jimmy Butler has been dealing with knee inflammation um I mean he has not looked like I mean the bottom line is he has not looked like himself from game 3 to Game 5. Tonight they play Game 6. But he's a warrior. He's going to get it out. He's going to try to play.
Starting point is 01:07:09 P.J. Tucker banged his knee during Game 1. His ankle. He's playing through some stuff. So the guys on Miami are just so beat up. And Tyler Hero, he's missed the last two games with a groin injury. But I'm told tyler hero is expecting to play tonight any type of a setback uh with that groin injury he has so unless he has a setback with that groin in pre-game i'm told he is hopeful that he gets
Starting point is 01:07:36 clear to play tonight there is optimism that he will be in the lineup at least be available to eric spulser to play so that'll be But with a groin injury, we won't know his mobility and how he looks until the game takes place. He looks really good corner of the court. He has sunglasses on. He looks so fucking cool. His swag is on point. Now we'll just have to see if he's going to be able to move on that groin.
Starting point is 01:07:58 But fingers crossed for Miami and for Tyler Hero, he can move and play tonight. And if he can, I think that will be a big boost. But on the Boston side, Marcus Smart, Robert Williams are listed questionable. I haven't heard anything that would leave me to believe that they will not play tonight. So as long as they're in the lineup, Boston is fully stocked, fully ready to go. Hey, Shams, what does Pat Riley's day-to-day look like with the Miami Heat? I know they cut to him after the big dunk a couple games ago or whatever.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And also, is he okay with his depiction on winning time? I do not know about whether he's okay with his depiction. Shams won't touch winning time. He just won't touch it. The actor actually looks like that's a great Pat Riley. He's a great actor. He's a great actor. What's his name? Adrian Brody.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Great actor. Brody. Adrian, yeah, did a great job. To me, it's a great depiction. I mean his character was really endearing in the show. I'm actually a big fan of the show. I'm a big fan of the character. Is it a documentary, that winning time, or what?
Starting point is 01:09:03 Because we're hearing conflicting reports. Is it a documentary, that winning time, or what? Because we're hearing conflicting reports. I think whenever you click on the episode, it says the events have been dramatized for this series. I think it's based on some truth. It's definitely dramatized. I don't know how much Jerry West was saying the F word back in the day. I have no idea on that one. Oh, that's the big takeaway.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Jerry West saying the F word? Out of that whole Winning Time series? That was the one you were like, ah, that's... He had... I mean, there were parts where he was saying the F word like the entire set.
Starting point is 01:09:38 It was like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Like... Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't do me like that. Don't do me like that. Oh, my God. As far as Pat Riley's day-to-day, I mean, he's the OG. Obviously, he's the guy that oversees everything that happens in an organization. I think he's got a great front office.
Starting point is 01:10:00 You know, you talk about Andy Ellsberg. He's been there for decades. He's really the guy that handles strategy, cap. They've got Adam Simon there, assistant GM. You know, a guy that isn't really as well known as Pat Riley or even Andy Ellsberg. But, you know, Adam Simon is known for scouting prowess going around the league. So that's a name for the viewers here. Adam Simon does a great job scouting. So what Pat Riley does is he delegates responsibility. Let's go, Adam.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Oversees everything. Hey, you know what they say about Adam? They go, like, when Simon says, you know, Simon goes. That's what they say. It's awesome. Tonight's game, Shams, I believe we have somebody that's very intrigued in it. Whenever you think about Marcus Smart playing.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Dog. Is he playing? Yeah, that's what it sounds like. That's what Shams just said. Questionable right now. How come this? Yeah, that's what it sounds like. That's what Shams just said. Questionable right now. How come this? I have not heard anything to the contrary. Let me see my phone if there's anything different. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Oh, live update on Shams checking for breaking news. This is what he normally looks like. No update. He's fine. As long as he continues to feel well, I would expect him to play tonight. Was there a COVID thing the other day with Miami where players or staff were stuck in Boston? Did that actually happen? Because we heard nothing in the pregame or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:11:08 No shoot-around. On the contrary, they had no shoot-around. Why was that? I'm told no players had any COVID issues. I'm told there was a staff member, someone on the training staff. So hopefully that person is doing all right, and the games will go on because no players were affected. But I think any time there's a positive or any inkling of an outbreak,
Starting point is 01:11:29 I think teams do the safe measure, which is cancel the shoot-around. Anything in person that you don't need to really have, you try to minimize it. Ty? Shams, I saw that the Pelicans basically activated Zion just in the nick of time for when their season's fucking over. Is he done with that place? Should we care? I wanted to be excited by this news, but it kind of just pissed me off.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Yeah, me too. Me three. Me four. I think that Zion Williamson's under contract through next season. It's clear he wants to extend there. The question is what will that offer look like?
Starting point is 01:12:05 What will those negotiations be like? So, you know, to my knowledge, you know, his future is in New Orleans as of right now. We'll see how this summer goes and extension conversations go. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Sean, is the GM going to trade Russell Westbrook to one of the teams that he wants to go to? Because he basically just said, yeah, I want to go to a team that's really good
Starting point is 01:12:23 that's not the Lakers. I didn't even see that. Is that what came up? I didn't see that. I haven't heard that. Russell Westbrook was just a WNBA guy. Oh, no. You got NBA McCockner?
Starting point is 01:12:36 No, we already talked about it during the show today. There was a tweet that we asked. We got a tweet. Pull up the tweet. We got NBA McCockner? It can't be real. I have not heard of discontent for Russell Westbrook in L.A. Pull up the tweet. We can NBA McCockers. I have not heard of discontent with Westbrook in LA.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Pull up the tweet. What the fuck? And honestly, we're a bad show. This is a fucking despicable show. Who tweeted that out? I mean, we talked about it. I sent it in,
Starting point is 01:12:58 so this might be on me. Thank you, Foxy, for that fucking accountability and ownership. There it is. There it is. Hoop Central. You guys got duped. You guys got duped.
Starting point is 01:13:05 You guys got duped. Oh, shit. You got duped. Come on, man. 3-0. Oh, shit. Hoop Central. I'm not going to blame AJ on this one.
Starting point is 01:13:17 No, it's Foxy's fault. You guys. This is definitely me. Come on, guys. It does say parody of Hoop Central in the box. Oh, no. Fox... What is this? Your first day at school? We all were talking about it this morning.
Starting point is 01:13:32 We all saw it. So let me give... Oh, yeah, folks. You sent it in there. You're a fucking very smart basketball guy. It ain't that hard. It's always there. We trust you.
Starting point is 01:13:41 You see that? It's that extra O that got him. The Hoop. Oh, no. Come on. Three-piece. We trust you. You see that? It's that extra O that got him. The who? Oh, no. Come on. Three-piece. God damn it. Fox.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Is he getting traded or not? Sounds like no. As of right now, no. I mean, they're operating as if he's going to be part of the team next year. Now, listen, could something come about? Fuck. You know, if they can go get like a Malcolm Brogdon or Miles Turner from Indiana, of course. We have a player.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Not to try to pursue that. Oh, yeah. The Pacers have a player that people would like? That's awesome. Oh, yeah. I mean, Malcolm Brogdon, Miles Turner. I think those are guys that other teams would want. But if you're Indiana, could you get better than an expiring Russell Westbrook and a potential draft pick?
Starting point is 01:14:23 No. I do think, you know, could there be a conversation before the draft? Lance Stevenson was the best player on the team last year. Did he have to pay him the $47 million no matter what? Or did he renegotiate? How does that work? No, he's got a player option. So that $47 million is $47 million.
Starting point is 01:14:40 So I would expect him to exercise that $47 million option. And at that point, right now they're operating like he's going to be on the team. If they can get a better player in their mind, a better fit, if they can get multiple other players, of course you've got to go pursue that avenue. But I don't – the Lakers are not going to trade a first-round pick just to get rid of Russell Westbrook and just dump him. That's not who Russell Westbrook is. They would – I think they right now want to run this back and see whoever they hire as head coach, can they figure out and get the most out of this group. Bear Couch and Frank Vogel, huh?
Starting point is 01:15:17 Yeah. That's fun. What do you have, Connor? Yeah, Shams, we've had a couple conversations about this. Is this regarded as one of the worst conference finals of all time? Because it feels like the Heat Celtics are either a blowout, and if it's not a blowout, then it's bad basketball, and then it turns into a blowout in the fourth,
Starting point is 01:15:33 and then the Warriors basically just kind of ran the table against the Mavs. Yeah, I mean, it's tough because the games haven't been competitive. I think the Boston-Miami series has a chance to go, obviously, six. It's going six. It has a chance to go seven. It has a chance to go seven. It's just unfortunate. Miami just has not been healthy. Jimmy Butler, those first two games, if he didn't get hurt, if he didn't hurt his knee,
Starting point is 01:15:57 that team, I think Miami was going to take them to seven. So injuries are unfortunate. I think Dallas was always going to have an uphill battle with golden state um but i think the nba finals could be epic though i mean you're looking at it you know draymond green said it last night if it's boston golden state that's going to be epic yeah in my opinion hasn't happened since bill russell and will chamberlain it's a long time since celtics golden state did we interrupt your lunch We just heard you bat a cereal bowl or maybe a fork. By the way, not using paper plates, not using plastic.
Starting point is 01:16:32 That's right. Respect. That was fucking metal on probably porcelain on that. Sound like it. We're just trying to grab and go right now, Pat. We're trying to get our mornings going. We're trying to get news for the show. We're trying to get news, the Peyton news, the hero update. We're working now. We're going to get our mornings going. We're trying to get news for the show. We're trying to get news. The Peyton News, the Hero Update.
Starting point is 01:16:47 We're working now. We're going to grab and go when it comes to meals. What are you eating right now? What do you got, a salad over there? Is there a salad? A little candy dish. I'm working on some oatmeal right now. It was a bowl and a spoon.
Starting point is 01:17:05 It's going to be soon. You hit it in the middle of your rant. We heard it, actually. Did you hit that thing? Yep, there it is. Oh! Oh! Oh, shit! I'm for a spoon, dude.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Listen, relax, relax, relax, relax. Whatever gets the job done, man, relax. Do you use job done, man. Relax. Do you use pork on ice cream? You have pork on ice cream too? Soup. That could work as well.
Starting point is 01:17:31 That could work as well. Oh, my God. Chubbs. Chubbs. You can't do this, Chubbs. What's going on? All right, Dan. Get back to whatever you got going on.
Starting point is 01:17:41 We appreciate you. We need to see it happen. No, no. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Chubbs. Let's go. Chubbs. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. back to whatever you got going on we appreciate you need to see it happen no no appreciate you joining us now is an absolute champion of electricity every time he's on a microphone you're obviously getting smarter and you're becoming a better gambler, and potentially becoming a champion of the sports space. But you're also entertained to the tens, because this man is an OG. He used to be in a bond.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Now he's alongside the fiery redhead, Calm. Calm Stewart. Calm Stewart, raging redhead. They've been doing a show for 20 years. Yeah. Together. About sports gambling. We're doing sports gambling shows before anybody else is doing sports gambling shows.
Starting point is 01:18:32 And the show has only gotten better somehow every year. My favorite episode was Friday of Radio Row. They were the last ones that were live from Radio Row. They were interviewing the Zamboni driver around that was cleaning the thing. They lost their mind. They quit one time. They went back in there. But they kept me and the entire office at the house entertained for 45 minutes to an hour straight of pure laughter.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Yeah. Big-ass brain Canadian from Sports Grid, Gabe Maritz. Yeah! Let's roll. Let's do this thing. Great to see you guys. I was dying listening to your Gruden conversation. That's how low society has become.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Even if you're a xenophobic, homophobic piece of shit, you're willing to admit it to get paid. Yes, I am. It's true. Did you say all these things? Yes, it's true. But as you guys things yes it's true but as you guys stated he wants to bring people down with him and i hope this like man i wish this turns into like johnny depp and amber heard we're gonna find out groon's gonna say i didn't want to tell people this
Starting point is 01:19:37 but ed hawkley took a dump on my pillow i wasn't gonna tell, but I came back from the hotel and there was Ed Hockley. I don't know if those will be in the emails or not, but hey, discovery. You can dive into numerous things. If Ed Hockley is taking a dump on your bed or on your pillow, you're probably going to try to get a photo of it. Yeah. Even if you're just. Yeah. Or it is.
Starting point is 01:20:00 AJ Hock put his cigar out on Johnny one time. Hey, hey, hey. Gabe, let's talk. What have you been chatting about? How's the gambling going? AJ Hawk put his cigar out on Johnny one time. Gabe, let's talk. What have you been chatting about? How's the gambling going? You like the NHL right now? The NBA? Baseball?
Starting point is 01:20:13 What are you hot in right now, Gabe? Man, you guys caught me at a great moment because I pulled an all-night gaming bender, except I'll pass most tests. As I say, I'll pass most tests. But I was up all night capping USFL football, Champs League corner kick props, and I got something for you too. I'm laying it down big on the
Starting point is 01:20:34 Buffalo Bandits to win a National Lacrosse League championship. Talk to Buffalo to win a championship. They're going to win the lacrosse championship, and then they're going to take that loudmouth Brady down. Everyone watches the show, so maybe
Starting point is 01:20:50 Tom's watching the show. It was a little much. You get little personal shots at Josh Allen. He's never really accomplished anything, especially against me. We'll see you in Glendale, Arizona at the next Super Bowl. Let's remember, Pat, one of the proudest things about that day. Remember, I said Odell, Pat, one of the proudest things about that day,
Starting point is 01:21:06 remember I said Odell Beckham, first touchdown of the game, plus 900, baby. Bingo! Yeah! He would have got MVP, too. You were high on Beckham, I think, even going in there. You gave us a monster bet there. I'm sure AJ wants to ask about the lacrosse league or the corner kicks that you were studying to make money off of. We respect
Starting point is 01:21:22 and appreciate all of it. Go ahead, AJ. Gabe, how do you choose what you you stay up all night and you know you when you sit there and you grind over all these different sports and these different props and also i'm a bit sad that i don't see you in the jacket you got at super bowl week that evil kenevil look thing was amazing but yeah i appreciate it under the first question what wasn't the first things first actually aj i was thinking about you in vegas we were at the uh we were at the draft and um my whole goal the only thing i cared about i was like i gotta find a draft jacket flashier than the super bowl jacket i was like can't do it can't do it like where's the merch at right couldn't do it i mean figure you figured aj couldn't you know you'd be able to find one out there man but we were just talking about you guys i swear to god yesterday on me and cam and i told i told cam pat about aj and there's there's a you
Starting point is 01:22:12 have like a best of highlight reel on youtube yeah yeah oh yeah as you should it's fucking classic and my favorite part is when he knocks your fucking mountaineer jersey off i've never seen you mad bro you're like what the fuck's going on there man where was i was in arizona i was sitting in a house that entire thing happened aj's destructive he's toxic he's all those things he's nothing like your show your show is just energy yeah all day every day how long are you guys live for every day i do six hours a day legend 20 years how many years i end up talking about lacrosse and stuff fucking baseball for six hours a day you had an did you say corner kicks of one league
Starting point is 01:22:54 is a prop that you're looking champions league so i'm getting deep into this thing and how about this for cards as well so we got the champions league tomorrow like i put so much time in i can tell you right now pat uh i even know the referee's name i'm gonna even look at this up clement turpin he's the referee of the champs league final tomorrow he's probably the best young referee in the world he's 40 years old he's been voted the best official uh in the french league he worked the europa championship championship final This is his first Champions League final. He's as good as he is because he lets them play.
Starting point is 01:23:28 The total card prop is three and a half in this game. And I'll tell you what, in matches that he is called in the Champions League, he's only called 2.3 cards per match. Oh, here we go. Yellow cards, red cards, doesn't matter? He's going to let him play pat so we're gonna go under the cards this reference is known for letting them play how about this guys liverpool have played in 51 matches when you consider their their premier league stuff and then
Starting point is 01:23:57 the champs league stuff so it's 51 matches they have had more corner kicks than their opponent in 45 and a 51 matches all right sorry AJ I didn't go to Ohio State but I believe that's still a good record right 45 and 6 yes pretty solid it's okay yeah so yeah do you actually like all these sports though Gabe do you enjoy watching these love it I love all of them all of them I grew up in a family that used to like throw punches over ping pong tournaments at christmas i think we're like the harbors except with more weed a lot of competition over there huh at the morenci state i i can respect so every sport that you think you can get an edge on though
Starting point is 01:24:38 is a sport that you like right i mean that is 100 what you're looking into and you just get obsessed over this shit like for instance you were up all night last night studying this because you want the next, like, the plus 900 Odell Beckham Jr. bet. That's fucking Super Bowl, Super Bowl for Gabe Morenci, a sports gambling talker, for the last 20 years, right? Well, I don't want to be a dickhead when somebody asks me, Pat, who do you like in the USFL? What do I say? Oh, I don't know. Oh, jeez, I'm not following the USFL. I'm going to tell them what I like.
Starting point is 01:25:08 I'm going to tell them that the Breakers are red hot right now, and they have won two of their last three games. Their offense is wrong. I do have some good – I got a nice USFL money line parlay. We'll keep it simple, guys. You can lay this down at FanDuel. The Generals have only lost once all year, but that was in week one. So they've actually won five weeks in a row.
Starting point is 01:25:27 And you're not going to stop them. They're going to beat the Bandits. And then we got the Breakers against Jeff Fisher's team, the Michigan team, who are bad. So basically, long story short, money line parlay. Generals, Breakers, plus 122. Cash that. Hey!
Starting point is 01:25:41 How about J. Cole playing in the CE cebl you know anything about that league eight teams j cole wet from three overnight trying to get some numbers up let's use our influence and get fanduel to post some numbers for this league so we could bet on the scarborough shooting stars do you know this league do you know this league game yeah yeah it's pretty good actually and i've actually bet on it before as you see see, I'd say that it's like a step below, like, guys, like, are trying to play here to get them invited to the G League type of deal.
Starting point is 01:26:12 Got it. J. Cole, wet. Splash. How you doing? Man, they sold out all the tickets right away. Listen, if you can bet on a league, people will watch it, Pat. That's what it comes down to, right? Yes. Like, if you couldn't bet on a USFL, nobody cares. But if you can bet on it, we care.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Have you watched any of those games? Or are you just reading stats on who's hot, who's not? The Generals have won their last five or whatever. You actually watch those games? Yeah, yeah. I'm watching them. I'm a hardcore football junkie. I love the Arena League, the USFL, XFL. I'm one of these people that
Starting point is 01:26:43 actually is a big enough loser that says, I've got to support this league. I've got to keep this thing going. I've got a good read on the Generals and the Breakers. I figure, listen, if they're going to go out of their way to play the game and put it on TV, the least I can do is fucking bet it.
Starting point is 01:26:59 It's not asking me too much. They're not asking me to sacrifice a limb. They're asking me to bet the game. I got no problem doing that. That's very nice of you, Gabe. I think the sports world thanks you. I don't know if they have properly over the years, but we appreciate you. Thank you all for the team. Yeah, for all of us.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Go ahead, Ty. Marenzi, any trends you're seeing baseball-wise right now? I mean, I know you're fucking hot on the diamond, and I've been kind of just doing the same bets, but these same game parlays are kind of nipping me in the bud. What are you leaning towards on the diamond? When I look at baseball, baseball is such a streaky sport, man. Baseball is like a roulette wheel, right?
Starting point is 01:27:32 If it keeps on, you're betting red and black, and it keeps on coming up red six times in a row, don't bet on black, just ride it. So you see, even bad baseball games will get streaky on the diamond. And don't be afraid to bet them. Like the Cincinnati Reds, actually, are a great example right now. They were terrible, and we're seeing they get a little bit of a roll. But I've been so invested in this hockey and the NBA playoffs.
Starting point is 01:27:53 With baseball, I've been keeping it real simple. I basically take the Dodgers on the run line, bro. Every time. You don't want to think about anything. Just take the Dodgers minus one and a half. They either cover. They'll either win by more than one and a half or they lose the game outright. The run line doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:28:09 See, this is a later run line with the Dodgers essentially. But keep an eye on the Blue Jays. The Blue Jays bats. These guys were ice cold. They were hitting like 179 with runners in scoring position. I think they're starting to turn the corner a little bit right now. Let's talk about the NBA that you've been watching heavily. It seems like these conference finals have been unpredictable
Starting point is 01:28:25 other than the Golden State-Dallas, but Boston and Miami seems like we have no idea what's going to take place. Tonight, Marcus Smart and Time Lord Robert Williams are playing for Boston, and I believe Tyler Eero
Starting point is 01:28:37 is back for the Miami Heat. Jimmy Butler, obviously, injured. I think he has a knee inflammation. Kyle Lowry has a hamstring. How are you betting tonight's game and how have you done betting these games? Well, it's pretty nice that Tyler Hero decided to play tonight. Is he
Starting point is 01:28:51 going to be a Don Johnson extra again? He looked cool, didn't he? Oh, come on. You look cool if you're sitting there with a hot chick courtside, not if you're supposed to be in the lineup. That guy rolls up like he's a Coke dealer on Miami Fun. You're like, Frank, bro.
Starting point is 01:29:11 You know, that's the look at me stuff, Pat. You know what I mean? That's the look at me. I mean, I skate you. That's where if I'm him, I'm embarrassed I'm not playing. I'm putting the hoodie on and I'm sitting there inconspicuously. Instead, he puts on the whitest possible outfit.
Starting point is 01:29:27 And sunglasses. Man, I gotta tell you, there's a real smoke show courtside in Miami. I don't see how the Heat do anything tonight. If they didn't bounce back the other night, how are they going to do this this evening? I already bet on the Warriors to win the title, though, guys. I think everyone
Starting point is 01:29:43 loves Boston all the time. Boston keep getting these shorthanded teams, man. Brooklyn blow. They have, you know, one and a half guys. They beat Brooklyn. If Chris Middleton, I'm not taking any of the way over to Celtics, but if Chris Middleton's there, things probably go differently. Don't tell me that it could have been a difference maker in one game.
Starting point is 01:30:06 The Miami Heat are like 213 years old and rolling in on wheelchairs here. Seriously. You're not a believer in the Boston Celtics at all? Let's go to Connor. Connor has a question for you again. I think they're great. I think they're a fun team. I think Tatum's a badass, and I can't believe this kid's only 24 still,
Starting point is 01:30:24 Connor, but I don't think you can beat the Warriors. I think the Warriors are the best. I think the Warriors are the best team playing the best ball right now. Look, we'll agree to disagree, but as we do know, sports are for real fans, not freaking posers. The Battle of Alberta just finished up.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Are there people over there that are following that? And is that kind of the hot topic in Canada right now? Yeah, it was obviously a big story, but it's one of these deals where the rest of Canada kind of hates them both it was obviously a big story, but it's one of these deals where the rest of Canada kind of hates them both and Alberta as a whole.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Yep. People think Canadians are all like, oh, they're Canadians and stuff. Canadians fucking hate each other. Yeah, we know. It's serious. From region to region and stuff, it's like, go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 01:31:03 It's like, the country is so big so people have never really been everywhere like put it this way someone from montreal has never been to calgary or edmonton and doesn't want to go to calgary all right so we hey we experienced gabe we've experienced that with gumpy because we asked gumpy about other parts of canada than where he's from he has no fucking idea he has no clue where it's at and he knows nothing about it you know our guy is getting kicked back to canada you know that company's getting sent back to canada we need you there to take care of him unc yeah so so what what what happened was he wanted and the change uh just terrible uh lawyers gave immigration lawyers absolutely terrible fucked us over.
Starting point is 01:31:45 You know what? I sort of heard this last night, but I didn't know. Sherpan was like, I think Gump's. Gump's coming back to Canada. I told him, well, better get an extra chair in my studio over here. How is that? An hour and 45 minutes. That's an hour and 45 minute
Starting point is 01:32:02 boat ferry trip, I guess, from where he'll be or whatever. That's nothing. This mic turns into a water bong too, Gup. People ask me if it's a bong or a mic. It's both. Maranci, Champions League final tomorrow. Liverpool, Real Madrid.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Who you got, pal? Well, man, this is one of these deals. And I'm not kidding, Gup. We opened up coming out with a soccer talk. But I am perplexed about this game. I know that Liverpool's the obvious side, that Madrid has been outplayed in all their matches, but all they do is find a way, this team.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I'm looking, I'm trying to get an alternate handicap here where I can get Madrid, like, plus a goal or so, but I got to lay just a little bit too much. So I'm going to roll the dice with Real Madrid. Oh, no. See, look. Everybody's on Liverpool.
Starting point is 01:32:53 No, they're not. 65% on Real Madrid, Gabe. Come on. All Real Madrid do is find ways to win, but I am attacking. I'm attacking the props more. I think it's going to go over 2.5 as well, as far as the total is concerned. But I'm going over
Starting point is 01:33:09 9.5 corner kicks. I like over 9.5 corner kicks a lot. Real Madrid have given up 30 corner kicks in their Champions League games. They've only had 9. They've been dominating their corner kicks. They give up a lot of chances, and they sort of hang on for dear life. Liverpool are very
Starting point is 01:33:26 aggressive. As I stated, they've had more corner kicks than are reported in 45 of the 51 matches that they played in this year. So I like over 9.5 corner kicks. I like Liverpool to have more corner kicks. You've got to lay two corner kicks to do it. We're going to go under 3.5
Starting point is 01:33:42 cards. This Clement Turpin is only giving up 2.23 cards per match. I got another card. He's 40 years old. He lets the boys play. Yeah, 40-year-old Frenchman, exactly. And another one is for Gup, hardcore soccer batter. Will both teams have two or more yellow cards?
Starting point is 01:34:01 I say no. Listen, as you've been talking here, I've been just scanning through Fando Sportsbook. The things you can bet on in soccer. It's like the Super Bowl thing. You get a headache, scroll, and you're like, gotta keep scrolling. It's in there
Starting point is 01:34:20 somewhere. Is anyone like you out there? What did you say? Is there anyone else out there that is as diehard into this and giving picks like you are and as consistently as you do? I know there's people on the internet. There's no one like you, I feel like. Well, there's you guys, but there's no one in the world that'll go from an
Starting point is 01:34:40 NBA player prop to bring it up, all right, what are we taking in the AFL tonight? All right, we'll lay the points with the Swans. We'll go over the number. Like, we brought, and listen, your boy Darius Butler, me and him have been grooving for F1 right now. He loves F1. We've been killing it.
Starting point is 01:34:56 We've been lying on it. Max Verstappen trained. They're going to Monaco this weekend. Who do you got this weekend in Monaco in F1? I got to go with Max once again. Who do you got this weekend in Monaco in F1? I've got to go with Max once again. Man, Raph, too. It's Real Madrid.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Max Verstappen. And George Russell, guy, too, to make the podium. Who? George Russell. This guy's been top five in every freaking race this year. He's only getting better right now. George Russell to make the podium. He gets a nice little prop there.
Starting point is 01:35:23 But F1 kicks ass. And we've got to go to Vegas next year, Pat and aj for this okay all right i mean for f1 have to miami looked awesome miami looked awesome these races look incredible did you watch the documentary is that how you got into it no no but being from montreal actually i've been i've grew up around this stuff we went to the races i used to cover this stuff uh f1 it's pretty cool walk around the pit area and uh in the garage do my show from the track and all that. At the Cirque du Gilles Villeneuve. They'll be in Montreal in like three, four weeks or so.
Starting point is 01:35:53 That's a part, let me tell you. Am I getting this accurate? 20 years you and the Raging Redhead have been doing the sports gambling show together? We've been doing it together for about 16 now. I just had the 20th anniversary of SportsRage. My first show was January 16, 2002. So my anniversary is the same day as the insurrection. It's easy to remember now.
Starting point is 01:36:16 January 6th. AJ's birthday. That's AJ's birthday. That's AJ's birthday. That's AJ's birthday. T. That's AJ's birthday. That's AJ's birthday. Tone, your question for Gabe. Gabe, NHL, do you think it's going to be launch and the lightning in the final? Because right now, you could get one of those two to win it as playing each other.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Say, Avalanche beating Lightning, plus 410. Tampa Bay beating Colorado, plus 500. Do you think that'll be the final? We could get some value there? I think plus 410, Tampa Bay beating Colorado plus 500. Do you think that'll be the final? We could get some value there? I think there's value on Tampa Bay. You and I, we all spoke on the Hammer Man last week, and we're like, how the hell did Tampa Bay Lightning not get the respect that they are?
Starting point is 01:36:56 Tampa Bay Lightning guys are probably the most non-talked-about story in all of professional sport right now. In the modern era, nobody ever repeats. These guys have done it twice. I think they're going to win the Cup again. Listen, you get some nice value. Last I checked at FanDuel, it was like plus 250. You look at Colorado,
Starting point is 01:37:14 they're good. They're not perfect, but Tampa Bay are perfect. These guys have won 10 consecutive playoff series. Vasilevsky has the same percentage of like 950 in elimination games. He's 17-0. They don't lose consecutive games off of a loss.
Starting point is 01:37:29 It looks like the Canes are going to get past the Rangers probably in seven. I'd like the Rangers to bounce back tomorrow. But ultimately, I don't think Carolina or the Rangers can beat the Tampa Bay Lightning. And then, I don't think Colorado or St. Louis can beat the Tampa Bay Lightning and you're getting value with the two-time champs. I love the Lightning to win the cup again, Tony. Let's go big, right? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Gabe, how's life? What's the schedule like for you on a day-to-day, Gabe? You know, because we all just get to witness your electricity and the clips and you're live for six hours every single day so we appreciate you making more time to be on a microphone with us. We have massive respect for you.
Starting point is 01:38:09 What is the day? You wake up, do a little breakfast, scour prop bets, go live, get off air, smoke, eat, scour prop bets, go back to bed, put that on repeat. Are you committed to the game like that right now? Yeah, we're too committed, actually. We're to the point that we're going to get committed.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I sleep less than a cokehead. I'm not having the fun of the cokehead. That is something that probably gets brought up. That is probably something that gets thrown your way a lot, I would assume. Gets thrown my way a lot. This guy must be wired. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Energy, man. It's like Lance Armstrong.
Starting point is 01:38:43 They said, what are you on? He had the commercial. I'm on my bike. What are you on? He's like, yeah, yeah. Energy, man. It's like Lance Armstrong. They said, what are you on? He had the commercial. I'm on my bike. What are you on? I said, yeah, settle down, Lance. I'm on my mic. That's right. What are you on?
Starting point is 01:38:55 No, we go pretty hard, Pat. You were talking about Gruden earlier. I know Chucky didn't sleep very much. I'm the same way, man. I'm like a four and a half, five hour type of max type of guy. We do the shows, but I like to be prepared for the next day. So I tack overnight. So I tack the overnight board at like three, four in the morning.
Starting point is 01:39:13 So I'm ready to go for times like this when I wake up. So I can tell you that the Buffalo Bandits will win a national. You're the best. Do you like being a, how was, how was your whole Superbow week experience this past Super Bowl? We loved seeing you there. You came on, I believe, Friday on the show. Obviously, you shut the whole place down.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Everyone loved you. You were amazing. But how did the whole week play out for you? Well, we had a great time. But as you guys knew, we clearly had some problems. Let's just call it out for what it is. I'm not really sure what we were doing there in the middle of the night it's all exciting you're doing the show at the super bowl you guys saw me i think my best guest actually remember we had the cleaning guy on we had
Starting point is 01:39:55 convention center pablo we said what's the score gonna be said 17-5 it's a good show. Yeah. No, we had a great time at the convention center. It's just an absolute circus. I'm already looking forward to it next year in Glendale, Arizona. I actually do think this. I really do believe that it's perfect symmetry and stuff, that Brady's talking smack to Josh Allen right now, that the Buffalo Bills will play the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in that Super Bowl
Starting point is 01:40:29 that we'll all be at, guys. Have you already bet it? Have you already bet that? I'm going to bet it right now since I talked about this. Okay, well, hey, you put it out in the – who wins? Listen, I'm a lifelong Bill fan. I'm not ready to – Oh, so that's why you're taking this so personally.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Everybody's wanting to give him the trophy. I don't ready to... Oh, so that's why you're taking this so far. Everybody's wanting to give him the trophy. I don't think the Bills should be favorites. When's the last time the Bills won anything? Exactly. Right?
Starting point is 01:40:52 I mean, I love these guys, but Josh Allen hasn't won a road playoff game before. We want to give this guy, we want to put him in the Hall of Fame, and I love Josh. I want the Bills
Starting point is 01:41:00 to be able to do this, but they got to get home field advantage this year. The window isn't going to be there open forever for the Buffalo Bills. I mean, we're talking about a franchise that has never won before. Yet people talk about these guys, and I'm a dire Bills fan. But people talk about us like we're three-time champions.
Starting point is 01:41:18 I think last year coming into the year, the Bills were a little cocky and arrogant because everybody picked them last year as well. You saw them blow the lead against the Steelers in week one i think the bills will be hungrier this year and i think they do break through and get to the super bowl and i just think it's fitting that they'll play against brady who's like 35 and three against these guys and we can set this guy send this guy to the booth for once and for all. $375 million job waiting for him on the other side, says Kendall. You're a better agent, Pat. I feel pretty good about it.
Starting point is 01:41:49 You, listen, you should be known by your commitment to this game for how long you've done it, at the level you've done it. When I was introduced to you, I felt like a fucking idiot. I'm like, how did I not know this guy existed for so long? We are very lucky that we potentially have introduced you to maybe a person or two today you're a legend gabe we appreciate you man well i sincerely i love you guys man i really appreciate the platform uh you've given me pat uh over the years you guys make me laugh uh out loud on a daily basis uh keep up the great work man it's awesome coming on what do you guys look forward
Starting point is 01:42:23 to seeing you in person once again do you know that your compliment of the Hammerdown Boys being good gamblers became literally our conversation piece? Everybody was a good gambler. This person, good gambler, good gambler, good gambler. You saying that the Hammerdown Boys are on Cincinnati and they're good gamblers or whatever. That became a full thing for us. We appreciate you more than you know.
Starting point is 01:42:43 Ladies and gentlemen, from Sports Grid, SportsRage, 20 years running and counting. Ladies and gentlemen, Gabriel Marantz. I don't have his full name. It's Gabriel. I should have just kept it. It is. It is. That guy I call living.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Yeah. Hard living. Three and a half, four hours. So Gump, was he like a staple for you listening to him yeah he was talking about sports gambling on uh the score when it was like the only sports channel in canada i watched it every morning how long ago 20 years ago oh yeah i was a fucking a wee lad like one of the first people to really do it by far like before i ever heard about sports gambling him and the raging redhead were but then he disappeared i don't know where he went well he was yeah i think he was doing an mma show for a bit or something and me and nick were
Starting point is 01:43:30 driving home one day and fucking we were on serious and i'm like is this fucking gabe morenci i hadn't heard him in years and nick goes yeah you know him i'm like i grew up fucking listening to this guy still got it oh yeah exact same he. Oh, yeah. Exact same. He's the best. 2002. How old is he? Might be 25. Might be 65. 200. He was in a rock band before he did.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Could be 85 years old. We have no idea. Yeah, he was in a rock band before. Yeah, homicide. Yeah. Yeah. Good band.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Almost professional hockey goalie as well. Yeah. He's 51 years old. Was he the lead singer? Guitarist and lead singer, yes. Oh, my God. Sometimes he uses his music on his show that airs at midnight on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:44:12 That a baby, Gabe. Let's go, Gabe. All right, before I get out of here, for a three-day weekend, we're off Monday. We'll be back Tuesday. And when we come back Tuesday, we'll be minus one incredible beard. We'll be minus one incredible spirit. We'll be minus one incredible spirit. We'll be minus one incredible personality. We'll be minus one great champion.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Gumbler. Gumby, it has been an honor to have you here for the last year and some change. And we know your time will not be away forever. But any time at all you're away from here is an absolute bummer. AJ, as we make this toast to Gumpy, I would like to hear your thoughts on what this man has done for our show and for this office. And we'll pass the microphone around in this tribute to the Canadian lad,
Starting point is 01:45:03 Bubba Gumpino. That's good. Goop, you know, I feel like you guys are making it way too final. Like, see you later, Gump. Or you're not even saying see you later. You're like, bye, Gump. No, we said see you later. No, I'm saying see you later. See you soon, Gump. I'm still holding out hope for you, Goop, that you find a nice lady
Starting point is 01:45:19 this weekend. You guys elope. You get hitched. Boom. All of a sudden, camera pans to Goop's spot on Tuesday morning, and he's there, and it's a giant celebration. I'm still holding out hope for that, Goop. If that doesn't happen, don't worry. We'll get you back. We'll get you back sooner than you think.
Starting point is 01:45:34 I think it's all going to work out. Thank you, AJ. Tone, one half of the Hammer Cowboy show very much can still exist. AJ literally only sees Gumpy through the screen. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So that's why he's like, yeah, it's not that big of a deal. It's like, you don't get to feel it. I'm not saying it's not a big deal. I'm telling you guys to be more positive about it.
Starting point is 01:45:52 We are, but we're going to miss it for at least one day. Go to hell. One day without Gump around here. Much faster than we think. I hope so. I agree. I agree on that. But one day without Gump around here, we're going to feel it.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Especially the other Hammerdown. He is one half of the Hammerdown boys. Hammerdown would not be Hammerdown without Gump. Good gamblers. He is my gambling partner. FaceTime every night to talk about our gambling picks. We will still do that. We will still have Hammerdown every day.
Starting point is 01:46:20 He will be on screen, but he will be sorely missed. Thank you. Cheers. Connor, your thoughts on Gumpy being kicked out of America? That's going to be tough. We're the downtown boys. Let's save this one for last.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Gumpy, you're my barmaid up there. Not having you next to me every day is going to be really weird. It is, isn't it? Yeah, it's going to be very weird. It's right in front of me. We share all of you for our computers every day. I'm assuming you're taking that cord back.
Starting point is 01:46:50 No, that's yours. I'll leave that to you. I'll leave that to you. What a guy. Also, not hearing just... Hearing that anymore, that's going to hurt. But you'll be back soon, pal. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Love you, buddy. Hell yeah. Cheers. Cheers. There is something like we'll be on the other side of the office, and all of a sudden you hear the, it's like, what happened? What could have possibly happened over there?
Starting point is 01:47:13 It was one member of the DTB, the downtown boys, acknowledging something great happening and informing all of us, which is what Gumby has done since he got here. He's really just intertwined with the internet so much that there is never something that happens that we don't know about. And that's why Gumpy's role around here will be incredibly missed, to be honest with you. I will be bummed.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Mightily. As will this man. Connor, your thoughts on Gumpy getting kicked out of America? Yeah, you know, I pick Gump up every day. So the trip into the office won't be the same. Trip home won't be the same. The downtown boys are in shambles completely. I know I won't be returning to the whistle anytime soon. I know that I'll strictly be at the Oakmont going forward by myself at the bar
Starting point is 01:47:55 because normally it is Gumpy and I. So, you know, the presence will be missed. But as AJ said, you know, this was an incredible run. These last year and change. But the next run is going to be forever. Because you'll have no more problems. There we go. Thank you, boys.
Starting point is 01:48:10 You are all far too kind. And I love you all. Hey, this is what we're going to say on Tuesday. You hear me? It's been a long day without you, my friend. Without you, my friend And I'll tell you all about it When I see you again Hopefully that'll be sooner than later, pal.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Hell yeah. Cheers to you, safe travels. Cheers, boys. You're the best. Cheers, Vlad. Cheers, Vlad. He's got a double red solo cup. You drinking lean over there?
Starting point is 01:48:40 All right. Cheers. Sure. Shouldn't do that. Wow, it's actually a pretty good time, but if you do it too much, you end up having seizures and stuff.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Pick up your kids, though. Don't be drinking that. And you already fall asleep. Lean puts you out. So we don't want to turn this into about what AJ's drinking over there in his double cup. But, Gumpy, you're the best, pal.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Going to miss the hell out of you. Little Rock, Arkansas tonight. Let's have a good time on SmackDown. Making Bill Clinton jokes? Is that his hometown? Oh, yeah. Bill, Hillary, just explore
Starting point is 01:49:09 that space. You told that to Josh Allen yesterday. I'll explore that space. I hope someone gives him that message. I hope he does feel free to just let himself go during the match. Well, Gabe's out there trying to give him all the chips to put on his shoulder.
Starting point is 01:49:26 I'm a diehard Bills fan. These guys stink, though. Yeah. Most Josh Allen ever fucking won. I mean, what are you doing, Morenci? He just wants to motivate the boys. Don't get too content. Plus 650, the leaders in the clubhouse.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Can't have you feeling that way. Gumpy, you're the leader in our clubhouse, pal. Everybody have an incredible weekend. I appreciate you so much. The boys will announce a giveaway here on the other side. Have a great weekend. Happy Memorial Day. Remember perspective.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Think about things. And thank you to everybody that has ever done anything positive to another person on this existence. Because life's hard enough, especially with everything going on. Be nice to somebody. Cheers. Gump will miss you. I'm out. Take care. so Outro Music Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Starting point is 01:51:25 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Starting point is 01:51:28 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Starting point is 01:51:30 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Starting point is 01:51:32 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Starting point is 01:51:34 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Starting point is 01:51:35 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Starting point is 01:51:36 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Starting point is 01:51:39 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Starting point is 01:51:43 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!! I'm out Thank you. I don't know what you're talking about.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.