The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 675 - Top Gun Maverick Review, Ian Rapoport, Dan Rapaport, JJ Watt & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 1, 2022

On today’s show Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys talk about their opinions of the new Top Gun Maverick after watching this morning at an IMAX theater, the top NFL storylines, The Match, the LIV golf league, and everything else going on in the sports world. Joining the progrum in the first hour is NFL insider and host of the Weekly Wrap Up with RapSheet & Friends, Ian Rapoport, to chat about upcoming contracts that are being finalized, Aaron Donald’s possible retirement, Roger Goodell, Deshaun Watson, and more (20:42-50:36). Later in hour two, PGA Tour insider, Golf Digest, Writer, and Northwestern Alumni, Dan Rapaport, chats with Pat, AJ, and the boys about the money situation in professional golf, the LIV league, issues with the PGA Tour and potential changes, Phil Mickelson, and more (1:03:30-1:25:55). In hour three, 3x DPOY, 5x Pro Bowler, 5x First Team All-Pro, 2010s All-Decade Team member, Walter Peyton Man of the Year, and 11th overall pick from Wisconsin, Cardinals DE JJ Watt, comes on the show to chat with the boys about his hosting and analysis for The Match tonight, the upcoming football season with the Cardinals, his social media antics, and more (1:27:20-1:55:06). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show and listen on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Radio. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. It is we just got out of an IMAX theater watching Top Gun. Wednesday, June 1st, 2022. The show begins right now. Can't thank you enough for joining us here at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. What a fucking day it is. We literally just walked out of the IMAX theater right into our studio here right onto the air the IMAX theater at Indiana State Museum unbelievable got a chance to pay an exorbitant amount of money to win it out and watch Top Gun at an 8 30 a.m showing for the entire office and their significant others if they wanted to come and I will tell you what I never seen the first Top Gun and uh you know anytime the entire world is telling you to do come and I will tell you what I never seen the first top gun and uh you know anytime the entire world is telling you to do something and I think we talked about this

yesterday when the entire world and I've had a history of this and it's not right okay and I'm not I'm wishing that if I'm ever lucky enough to have a child that I will probably hate at some point uh in its life because how big of an asshole it'll be. I hope, you know, that it doesn't have the same trait that I have, that if everybody is telling me to do something, there is about 100% chance I'm not going to do it. That's just, I've been that way my entire life. It's not great. It's a pain in the ass.

It's caused a lot of trouble for probably my parents and for everybody that's ever been in my life. But it has literally been that way since I was this big. Now, I have gotten a little bit more mature. I've handled things differently. Obviously, got the thing. Oh, yeah, that's right. Because I was being told by the entire world

if it was any other time in my life and everybody on Earth, especially on TV and everything, was telling me to do something, no way I would do it. I fucking don't do it because I had to for the wwe basically to make life feasible and for the safety of everybody you know i bought into that whole thing okay so i

did that we move on now i i made a promise to myself we're going back to our old ways never again that's right if everybody on earth is telling you to do something you fucking are you gonna forget who you are or you're not gonna forget who you are are you gonna fucking do it or you're not gonna do it like the old Pat? You know, the straight from the go Pat. You know, that Pat. Are you going to do that? So whenever this Top Gun thing started getting rave reviews from every fucking human in my life, okay?

Every human. I seen their response to this box office record-breaking Memorial Day weekend movie that saved the theaters probably. If everybody on earth was saying you had to go see it, old Pat would have said, I'm fucking not doing it. I'm done with it. Can't do it. Don't tell me what to do.

That's not how this goes. I am so incredibly thankful I went and saw that movie. Hell yeah. Hey. Hell yeah. This thing was fucking awesome. I felt like, I mean mean i felt feelings in there and once again kurt warner's movie made me do that for like the first time since free fucking willie

way back in the day and john q oh sure he flexes at the end on the street limos going oh god it's almost making me cry think about it but i felt i started feeling feelings again in movies because after john q i made the decision not watching any movies that have those feelings anymore life is filled with that type of stuff i would like this entertainment to make me laugh feel good inspire me do whatever god do i'll tell you what top can have me crying a little bit have me laughing a little bit have me ready to run through a fucking wall yeah and then the story seemed to make sense all the way through it and i am incredibly fortunate that I went and saw that movie I'm very thankful that they made that movie

and I remember Tom Cruise FUCK YOU WE'RE SAVING AN INDUSTRY HERE back when COVID was happening I'm happy they got through that little awkwardness because I assume the next few days were not comfortable around that set I assume there were some things said to each other that were not great on the set of that movie

while it was being made, and somehow they were able to be as professional as fuck, and that movie was incredible. Congrats to Tom Cruise who doesn't seem to age. Congrats to Miles Teller for, although he did get jumped at a Hawaiian bar or something like that on vacation after jumping off waterfalls and stuff.

Rooster's a fucking badass. Shout out to Rooster. Listen, the movie is definitely worth a watch. Let's go to the toxic table. Ty Schmidt, obviously, you went in there with a Tom Cruise boner. Oh, yeah. You actually requested the Mission Impossible trailer

before the movie at the IMAX thing. We got a chance to pick the trailers, if we wanted trailers or not. Now, it was 8.30 in the morning, so not everybody's thinking as clearly as they had. That was my first time being in, I think, public at 8.30 a.m. in a long time. Haven't had to do it in a long, long time. It's been pretty, it was an interesting morning. It was an interesting morning getting in there. And Neil, the man that set this up over there we paid by the way we did have to pay so it's not like neil was gifting it to us but neil was a fucking incredible

human being made everything very easy for us it was awesome he goes uh do you guys want the avatar trailer uh the mission impossible trailer and uh thor and jurassic world trailer and Thor and Jurassic World trailer and Ty looks at him and goes definitely going to need Mission Impossible. Ty was walking past him. This guy was asking me a question. Ty stops with popcorn in his hand, 8.30am going to need Mission Impossible. Then Ty

continues to walk. So I go, alright Mission Impossible seems to be one of those. How many trailers is this normally? He goes, probably three or whatever. I was like, all right, need Avatar then. Okay, and guess what? I got a good feeling the next time we're in that theater, we're in Avatar. That's right.

Can't wait. Okay, we have Avatar. We had Jurassic World. All right, that seemed to really tickle. You know, a couple of the dinosaur people's feathers in there whenever we were watching it. And the Mission Impossible trailer, right into Top Gun, felt like it was really a Tom Cruise fucking celebration.

Oh, yeah. That was amazing. I'm not a big Tom Cruise guy. You are now. I've seen zero Mission Impossibles. I've never seen Top Gun before. Feels like this is, I got a lot to catch up on. What a fucking animal this guy is.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you said animal. Like, Tom Cruise, you know, you say what you want about him. He a fucking animal this guy is. Yeah. I mean, you said animal. Like, Tom Cruise, you know, you say what you want about him. He is 5'1". Yeah. Exactly. And he is the baddest motherfucker we've got. Baddest motherfucker on the planet. I mean, Brock Lesnar would eat him.

That needs to be said. Brock Lesnar would eat Tom Cruise. But Tom Cruise, like, I think Brock Lesnar would actually just rip him apart. Break him in two. And then potentially, yeah, he wouldn't need him. I don't think he's cannibal. But he could if he was to. Tom Cruise is a badass motherfucker.

How about him at what, 60? Yeah. Picture perfect, knee drive, arm swing, run. Multiple times. In the middle of Antarctica or something like that. Full form with a parachute on his back. How old? He's 60 years old?

59, I believe. Yeah. His face. He doesn't have like the terrible. He has not aged. He doesn't have like the terrible. No, no, no. He has like wrinkles and shit.

Not Botox. But he looks very young still. He does every single stunt that you see. He has never had a stuntman one time. That is all him. That's why he's the best. Because he is a certified maniac. Like he is a psychopath.

That was fucking awesome to watch. That was my he's the best. He is a certified maniac. He is a psychopath. That was fucking awesome to watch. That was my introduction basically to Tom Cruise. Other than the Oprah jumping on the couch. Exactly. When he's this tall, it's hard for me to take this guy serious because he doesn't go as red carpets or whatever. He's getting interviewed by people. He's doing this.

It's like, okay, this is the baddest guy we got. In that movie, I want anybody else but Tom Cruise. That's right. If I'm going into any type of war predicament, I would like Tom Cruise right there as my little tag team. Exactly. Give me fucking Pete Maverick Mitchell.

And that's why he's so good because he is not Tom Cruise. I mean, he's part of the, like, he really thinks he's Ethan Hunt. He's really flying these planes. Like, this guy fucking commits his life. When one of his movies comes out, he commits his entire being to it, no matter what. Like, Mission Impossible,

he'll go fucking skydiving. He'll run up the side of the Burj Khalifa. He's a fucking maniac, but he always delivers. TC always delivers. I'm telling you, if you haven't watched Mission Impossibles yet, those are right up your alley.

Those are right up your alley. I saw two and a half minutes of it today. That's right. I think I'm ready to go. But it was, like you said, I mean. Now, they were trying to force him into retirement in a Mission Impossible trailer. Yeah, well. And.

God, Tom. Is this a trend ever since? Kind of. Kind of. So that's the stage that he's in. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's the stage he's in. But the first six Mission Impossibles, it was.

At Tom Diggs here, your thoughts on Top Gun. We will end this thing with that Boston Connors thoughts. Who was in the back with a laptop open during the entirety of the movie? Tundig's. They said, people, you didn't need to see the first to see this one. You didn't, but it did definitely make it better if you saw the first one because it checked every single box on what people loved about the first one. There was definitely some hidden references in there.

Goodness gracious me. Balls of fire. Math, you know, does some things. Yes, all of it. I don't know Goose. I don't know Goose at all. You would have loved Goose. You would have loved Goose.

You would have loved Goose. I think I would have loved Goose. Goose is very chill, very cool. Here's one for Goose. Thank you, Goose. Miss you, Goose. The expectations were too high. Your legacy lives on, Goose. Goose is very chill, very cool. Here's one for Goose. Thank you, Goose. Miss you, Goose. Your legacy lives on, Goose. Expectations were too low.

That's like a 97 right now on Rotten Tomatoes and a 99 audience score. I mean, that should have been 100. Okay, well, let's see. Boston Connor, your thoughts? I couldn't agree to disagree more with Tony because I do not think it was 100%. I'm sorry everyone loved this fucking movie. I understand. TC, absolute.

He's a superstar. Him planning the flight plans that all the actors had to go through. He actually did that. Unbelievable. And we talked about his stunts in the Mission Impossible trailer. He planned his flight.

What are you talking about? He put them through actual Top Gun trains. I know you have to do it. Only 100 hours. You're doing everything. He planned his flight? What are you talking about? He put them through actual Top Gun trainings. I know you have to do it. All you have to do is say, you're doing everything. He did it all. He's flying. He's a maniac.

All the actors had to do? Yeah. Like six months of flight training. Yeah. TC was flying that aircraft live. No. He wasn't. That was a double cocked plane.

No, no, no. With somebody else flying it with a camera on him. That was movie magic. No. I don't know if you're right. The other actors, absolutely. They tried to. TC was like, ah, bup bup, okay.

You're willing to just straight face lie. Yeah, you're lying. There are plenty of times where TC was in the cockpit alone operating a fucking fighter jet. That's no bullshit. He landed it? He landed a thing in the net? He lives this shit. cockpit alone operating a fucking fighter jet that's that's no fucking carrier yeah he landed it yeah he landed the thing in the net he lives this shit yes for the premiere he fucking landed

apache on the fucking dock all right well maybe you need to have a little bit maybe it is a hundred i think i think my problem is i love the first one so much that the second one was a little too close i mean don't get me wrong the footage that they had know this isn't going to be a hot take back there. This is an hot take. I mean, Nick was wearing the flight suit. I knew right away when I said that shit. You've never seen the first one. Don't disgrace everybody's ears.

Okay. But the first one was so good. I also love Goose. Have you never seen the first one? I've seen the first one. Nick is just pissed. He's pissed. They're just mad.

But it was great. And the footage that they have obviously is much better than you know what the first one had but you know I'm sorry I like the original

I thought the second one was still a good movie and 97% on Rotten Tomatoes is unheard of and I do not know if it deserves that definitely in the 90s well it's

just a follow up I love that movie great movie incredible I mean I think you know maybe Connor you know you're not mature enough yet to really enjoy it. Look, look.

You know what I mean? I don't think that's what it was. I mean, shit, I texted Foxy halfway through the movie like, is this movie actually what everyone's talking about? Okay, so quick follow-up. If it wasn't for the last hour 15 minutes, I have a vastly different feeling about this movie. Hour 15.

Because there's some amateur lines early. Where I'm like, all right. I think Adam Sandler could have wrote this thus far. Those were all throwbacks. A couple of the lines. Okay, yeah, because I didn't watch that. But I'll tell you what, when it starts getting into the getting in, it does not let off the throttle.

It doesn't. It just goes. The dogfighting's unbelievable. Yeah, the last half hour. Not just the dogfighting. The training is fucking absurd just goes. The dog fighting's unbelievable. Yeah, the last half hour. Not just the dog fighting. The training is fucking absurd, too. I mean, the whole thing. I mean, you can't...

But, like, really, the last, like, 30 minutes, too, like, it was... I mean, it's Top Gun and Mission Impossible mixed together. The last 30 saved it. Saved it. Completely.

See, these two young bucks, they don't appreciate the training and the buildup of the film. You know how hard it takes to get to that point? Okay, by the way, anyone that tells you that you don't have to see the first one, that's a appreciate the training and the build up of the film. You know how hard it takes to get to that point? By the way, anyone that tells you that you don't have to see the first one, that's a lie. There's a lot of references

that I have no fucking idea of. My wife was giving me a lot of heads up on a lot of things. But yeah, the first hour I'm like, I'm going to have to be a hater. I'm going to have to walk into this studio and I'm going to have to be a hater. And then I get a text from Connor. Does this movie stink? Just a question. I almost sent a text as well. I had to go to the bathroom a couple different times.

So there was a couple times for me to kind of clear my thoughts. I was taking in the chapter that I had just watched. First two bathrooms, like the only two times I went to the bathroom, the movie had not started yet. That's two pisses. So there was a lot of that. I think out of a lot of people that maybe hadn't seen the first one that didn't have the nostalgia or the connection with the characters or everything.

Like I was going in there cold. I got no connections, but I did know TC. What are you chasing this lady for? Dude, you're fucking Tom Cruise. You know what I mean? Like, what are you fucking doing? That's Pete Mitchell. That's what he does.

They had to do that. Who cares? Go fucking plug in the jukebox. Turn something on. You're Tom fucking Cruise. That was tough for me to get. But my wife told me that's a little bit of, I guess, a throwback there. Who cares? Go fucking plug in the jukebox. Turn something on. You're Tom fucking Cruz. That was tough for me to get. But my wife told me that's a little bit of, I guess, a throwback there.

He's also, you know, he's struggling with everything. You need that first. I mean, it really is that. It's like the nostalgia of, like, wow, you're watching a Top Gun sequel. Kind of carries you. He's back on the bike for a couple of seasons. Exactly. Grinning ear to ear when he comes, you know, when he's driving down. He's watching the planes take off.

It's just a lot of that shit. It's cool, but you're right. Once you get into this portion of the movie and not just the nostalgia of watching it, it just does not let off the throttle. It's unbelievable. I guess I have to watch the first one so I can understand the first hour and a half of that movie. A six-minute ovation at the Cannes Film Festival. Well, they all seen the first one, dude.

So that first hour and a half where you and me and Foxy weren't. I saw the first one. I'm just saying. It just doesn't last. It wasn't the balloon, the oar, dude. Do you know how hard it is to make a good sequel 30 years later? Well, there's a lot of people that have tried. Let's go back into the old breadbasket.

Let's go back into the well. Let's try to tap into the magic that we had. It just doesn't happen. When we had creative juice, back when we had it, let's go ahead and reinvigorate that. Let's reimagine that because that idea was loved by everybody. If we just kind of dress it up a little bit, it'll be

beloved again. And that technique has failed in the movie industry time and time and time and time and time again. Sounds like it did not fail this time. If that was a first time, first movie, like I guess Mission Impossible is. It's the

first one. Is this the first Mission Impossible? No, it was like number nine. That's not what the trailer told me. They said it was the fucking first one. Finale part one. It's a two part story. Oh, so he's already telling you, hey, there's another billion-dollar movie coming. Yeah, I'm going to space in that one. What a good marketing boy.

Whatever it is. DC genius in this entire thing. In that trailer, too, he actually does ride that motor bike or whatever the hell it is off that cliff, and he pulls a chute himself. That's actually real. He does do that stuff.

That was sick, by the way. Yeah, unbelievable. How awesome was that? Oh, yeah. It was incredible. I almost got up and left after that. I was like, I don't even need to watch Top Gun. That's all I need right there. I'm happy you stayed. Yeah. Aren't you? Me too. I'm ecstatic that I stayed. A little double

climax situation for you before 11am. I know. Unbelievable how many times you get... I mean, does that happen? It doesn't happen very often. Best day of my life. So, Mission Impossible, any of them still hold up? Oh, yeah. I love Mission often. Best day of my life. So Mission Impossible, any of them still hold up? Oh, yeah. I love Mission Impossible. Yeah, they're awesome.

Love Mission Impossible. Probably watching those three of these dog days of summer, I guess. And Tom Cruise getting through the summer together. The last four or five of those, top tier. This has been Movie Reviews with Pat McAfee. Hell yeah. Here on Top Gun was real good. Yeah. Wednesday, June 1st, 2022. Let's get into sports. I'm happy Here on Top Gun was real good. Yeah.

Wednesday, June 1st, 2022. Let's get into sports. I'm happy we did that. Yeah, that was fun. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Neil, by the way, in the Indiana State Museum. Thank you, Neil.

Museum. It's not good that I found out the exact price of that and how we go about doing that. You know, that doesn't seem like a good move. CFO Phil's out there pissed. He tried not to enjoy the movie. He's hoping everybody would think it was terrible so we don't have to do it probably every single big movie that comes out we will be doing this.

Best way to watch a movie I've ever seen. That fucking theater was the size of a... The screen was the size of a fucking building. It was wrapped around. It was very nice. It was, and the seats have been updated since I was in there last. I'll tell you what.

I was expecting something much different going in. What's that, Nick? You just gave a G-Style. I just found out the price. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. We were told something much different.

Zito told us, yeah, much different. Well, no, no. That's an 80-seater. No. Zito also said that was a 60-seater yesterday. So I think, you know, you got an 80-seater, then a 100-seater. I mean, the one we got was big. But I also don't think that they could put a 60-seater in front of that theater.

And Tom Cruise did tell us in the preview, in the trailer, like, watch this on the biggest screen possible. This is the biggest one in the state. That's right. this on the biggest screen possible yeah this is the biggest one in the state that's right it's actually the biggest screen in the entire state we just watched i felt like we were in the box six stories high it was pretty sweet man that was avatar is gonna be unbelievable on that thing oh my god but jacob sully's fucking well ty said that trailer sucked so yeah i did but that was just because it was a mission impossible and at that point you know you're just really waiting yeah get to that. Yeah, exactly.

I'd had enough Avatar for the moment. You had spoken out of line about Jacob Sully. A little bit. Had to. Had to. A little bit. I don't think I fully understand what they went with with Avatar. I've been waiting 20 years for this one.

That's what I'm saying. That trailer stunk. I thought it was good. I mean, it was cool because it's the bitch. Choppers are the same choppers. It is. Same choppers. Where's the innovation? Same choppers.

Those are good choppers. So what happened? Jacobpers. It is. Same choppers. Where's the innovation? Same choppers. Those are good choppers. So what happened? Jacob Sully gets there and they just have no more innovation? Well, they don't build that type of stuff because they're avatars. They fly their birds. The humans were the ones that brought over the new choppers, pal. And then they kicked them all back. Humans were defeated.

They can't fly. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, but they're back, obviously. They're back. They're back as avatars. They weren't bringing engineers. They were bringing soldiers to take down that goddamn tree. That's what they were doing.

These soldiers don't know how to build new planes. Yeah, the soldiers aren't the ones building the fucking tanks they're in right now either. I don't think. Well, some of them are. No offense. You are soldiers if you're building things. That's a different department. But the engineers must have just let down everybody that's going over to fight the avatars.

The same exact technology they had the last time they lost. Seems like a bad decision. Yeah, but Tully was flying a fucking, or was flying a flying dolphin creature, okay? No, that's his fucking, his bird. His OG bird. His gnat was different. No, yeah, they gave him, but it's a fucking,

he went to the store, picked up a fucking dolphin gnat. Yeah, a gnat, and just went in there. It's a bird still, though. It's still a bird. There are new choppers. I don't think this is Avatar vs. Human, Avatar 2.

I think this is a much different Avatar versus Avatar type of movie. Okay. Well, I think you're maybe a Mark Raider. I don't know. I don't know. You'll see. Kind of Mark Raider. You'll see.

Tribes certainly humans. Tribes weren't ever united until that last movie. You don't think there was a few tribes out there? Oh, they took the human stuff and said we're going in. Bingo. Join us now. Maybe. Hey.

I'm just saying. They can't run it back with humans versus avatars because they kicked them out off their planet. So you're saying this was just the stuff that was left around that other tribes are picking up to take down Jacob Sully and the team? Yes. Maybe. Sorry for calling you a moron. Hey, still very possible. Join us now.

Maybe. I don't know. We've only seen a two-minute trailer. The one that we saw on the internet was better than the one we saw on the IMAX. It was. It was the same one. Join us now. Maybe. I don't know. We've only seen a two-minute trailer. The one that we saw on the internet was better than the one we saw on the iMac. It was. It was the same one. Both 59 seconds. No, I think they were a little different, wasn't it?

No, I don't think so. Same exact one? Yeah, because I saw it before. I thought I saw more shit in the one on the internet than the one I saw on this one. I might have been... Bigger screen, so it probably looks like more on your phone. Awesome stuff. Waiting for the next impossible trailer.

What's happening in the top right corner I wasn't seeing? Well, that was you for sure. Let's get to the show. Today's show is called Two Rappaports and a... What? What? That's right. We have Ian Rappaport joining us in a moment.

Dan Rappaport, who is a PGA Tour insider for Golf Digest. Ooh, okay. He'll talk to us about what's going on with Dustin Johnson and the boys heading over to live. And then JJ... What? And 205 to chit-chat about the match this evening. He has the pre-game show, pre-match show,

and then he'll be an analyst during the golf thing. Can't wait to chat with J.J. Watt, not only about the match, but also what's going on in his life. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who knows the insides and the outsides of the NFL because he's senior NFL insider for the NFL and NFL Network. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Hey, how was the golf game this morning, pal?

You had tee off what, 7.30 a.m.? Teeed off at about 8.30, played real fast. It was going bad, and then I birdied 18, and life is good. So it's amazing how much better that makes your day, so I'm ready to roll. Yeah, just walking off the course with a big-time putt, I'd assume. Is that what it is, or is it a putt shot? No, it nailed like a 25-footer, looked around to see who was watching. Nobody. So I

was like, alright. Grabbed the ball, shook some hands, walked off. That was it. It was great, though. Well, nobody was around. You shook some hands. Well, no, I mean, there was no... You know, you make a big putt. You'd like people kind of on the... There's a putting green around and there's people teeing off. So you'd like

people to be like, great, but there was no's people teeing off. So you like people to be like grit, but there was no one. That's unbelievable. So you played 18 holes this morning by yourself? No, I played with another guy. He bailed like two holes with two holes to go. And then there was some other people

kind of around, but no one reacted was my main point. But yes, we played fast. It was great. Cart, walk? Walk. Wow. Good for you. I got mad respect for that, man. You have to be a better golfer than we all assume you are to walk and get through quickly. Because if you're a bad golfer, those walks are a lot longer than those golf carts.

There were a couple of those. The main thing is I don't mind taking a cart and there's some courses i play where i do it but where i play now everyone walks including like the old dudes who always play at like 7 30 in the morning on the weekday and i can't roll up in a cart when they're all walking or you know walking with a push cart so i gotta carry too you could but i respect it i appreciate it And I love your commitment to golf. Feels like you do love the golf. I love the golf, yes.

I like watching it. I like playing it. It is like I will force myself to get out there real, real early, like 7.03 last Saturday, last Saturday morning, just because once you get out there, it's just the greatest. It is. It is, by the way. This time of year, it's golf season, you know?

All right. Well, we're going to talk golf with another Rappaport next hour. Dan Rappaport. Do you know him? His family? Not family. I feel like we should get to know each other since we, of course, have the same name. He seems like he's got a great job and probably has a lot of fun doing it.

But I've never actually met him. Well, I just got in my ear that the names are spelled differently. So you're nowhere near the same. That's kind of funny. Not relatives. Sounds the same, though. Maybe somebody just lost in translation. In an Ellis Island thing. Come over on the boat. Where are you from?

Deutschland. Germany. Okay, cool. Get out of here. There it is. That happened. That happened over there as well. I'd assume some names could potentially be spelled wrong throughout that whole process. We made some mistakes. We are trying to get better. Let's move on.

In the NFL, Aaron Donald talking about him being at peace. If he was to be done with football, he went into the NFL thinking he wants eight years to play. He's got there. He's got a Super Bowl now. That feeling wants him to run it back on the I am athlete podcast he said he'd be at peace if they can't figure out the contract situation they're gonna have to pay him right I mean they're gonna have to figure that out there's no way anybody wants Aaron Donald just to walk away let alone as an NFL fan but the LA Rams organization as well right and when do you expect that to be finished yeah I mean generally big

deals happen in the summer. So, like, we're kind of getting to that wheelhouse of now when people are starting to peek into the calendar and be like, all right, summer's about to happen. Should we try to wrap this up? Should we push it to training camp? There's a window here where some deals can get done. You know, it's always about deadlines. And if the Rams decide that, you know, this is a deadline, then maybe it gets done. Here's my thing about like, I don't want Aaron Donald to retire. He is an awesome football

player. Probably the best play of, I guess, maybe the whole season this year, essentially winning the, at least sealing the Superbowl for the Rams. He is an awesome player. I don't want him to retire because I like watching him. The Rams don't want him to retire. I know they would like to pay him to a certain point, but here's my thing. I have learned in my esteemed wisdom or whatever, that when a player starts talking about whatever, players start talking about retirement, I shouldn't shrug it off because he's 30. He is maybe the greatest at his position ever play. He's got a ring. He's made a hundred100 million. If he walked away now, I would kind of understand. I don't want him to, but I don't think it's nonsense slash contract leverage. By the way, they're going to have to pay him.

That's good contract leverage regardless because there's some, you know, like, hey, this is actual value, and then, hey, this is what it's going to take to get this done. You know, and Aaron Donald's saying, like, hey, this is what it's going to take, I think, to get me back and get me fully committed to football again and to going into double teams every single week and the amount of work I've got to do with the $100 million, with the ring. He's represented by Donda Sports. Let's go.

Do you know anything about that? Is that Kanye directly? Or did they buy up some agencies like people have done in the past? How's Don to sports work, do you think? I am still trying to figure out what that is. It may be a marketing thing, not an on-field thing, because I know Aaron Donald's represented by Athletes First, I

believe, so he's got an on-field representation. I don't believe that's changed. So I think it could be a marketing thing. They've got some nice photos. I mean, there's Donald there. So I think it could be a marketing thing. They've got some nice photos. I mean, there's Donald there looking like a ball and they just did. They just brought in someone else, too. I can't remember. Jalen Brown. Yeah, it's all off field stuff is what I was just told to me in the ear. So I guess that has nothing to do with it. But wait, is someone actually in your ear? I thought you were joking all this time. Now, Zito's in my ear. Yeah. Zito. What's up? All right. That guy.

That guy's in my ear. Yeah. Pretty good. He'll drop in a little stat or factoid every once in a while or correct something that has come out of my mouth and say, probably need to fix this. It seems like you are wrong on this, which is all welcomed. All welcomed in my ear. I need that in life.

I can't talk back to him, though. So that's a problem you know like that's something we got to get fixed for the next studio that we don't currently have at this studio because he'll say something and i'll hear him you know i will hear him but i won't acknowledge it so zito guess what he's coming in again i'm like i got i want to just be able to like gotcha gotcha gotcha thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you zito you know you can just be like like he can see you right just be like yeah but i'm on camera most of the time most of this is happening while i'm talking or while something's happening or we're in the middle of transitioning

you know some things too i i respect zito's like he's so courteous like he'll i see him like waiting to come into my ear with oh waiting to drop into my ear with something, you know? And he's waiting for a sentence that I'm speaking to stop. And then I'll jump right back in and he'll sit back. And oh my God, here we go, here we go, here we go. And he's getting a good read on it. Then he comes in the room. Hey, this just happened in the blah, blah, blah.

Thank you, Zito. Zito, you're incredible at what you do, pal. We need a two-way street of communication in the next studio. I hope that'll come into Thunderdome, which is just 60-some days away. That's awesome. Whoa. Wait, how much? 60 days away, 60-some that'll come into Thunderdome, which is just 60-some days away. That's awesome. There you go.

Wait, how much? 60 days away? 60-some days away? The Thunderdome? Hey, it is obnoxiously large. Don't need it. Wait, so, if I go to Colts training camp

in like early August, it won't be done yet or will be? Yeah, I think so. First couple weeks, right? Mm-hmm. Well, are you going first week of camp or second

week of camp? I mean, if I get to check out the new digs, I may fiddle with the schedule a little bit. Second. Second week. Okay. You're going to come whenever the Lions are here. You're going to come when Hard Knocks is here, for sure. So you can get your little...

Oh, second week. See, that'll be perfect for you. MCDC, I got my questions. I'm not going to lie. When I do make cameos on Hard Knocks, it is a great moment. And I assume for them, it's great too. They've never said anything, but that is always a lot of fun.

I'm sure NFL Films is very thankful for you, you know, stopping by the Hard Knocks camp. Diggs has an update. It is the second week, I believe. I think it's later. Lions at Colts is not until August 20th is the preseason game, and they normally lead up to it, right?

Boom. So come in the middle of August. Well, you can't. What's that all about? You're busy? Hard Knocks is here. Yeah. I do my tours early on in camp.

Whatever, dude. But I'll come by if you'll open the door for me. I'll come by. You're not invited. Not invited. Let's move on. You're not invited. Case closed.

Sometime, but not in August. Not in August. You can't be there before the place opens. Why do you get a sneak peek? Oh, because he's an insider. No, it's a soft open. Okay, for Rappaport. We'll have a soft open for senior NFL insider Ian Rappaport.

Take your photos, do your whole thing so whenever it actually opens, you can say, I was in there two weeks ago, and this is what I saw, and this is how far they've come. I would like you to report, though, that our, I don't know if it's our electrician or our, I try to stay out of this because I think I would get upset with a lot of things that are going on because budgets and the way things are quoted. And then, oh, we got to add this on and this on and this on. So CFO Phil and old tim have been doing a fantastic job job boys somebody just cut the cord though to our fucking place setting something up how's that excuse me yeah that set us back a little bit i'd do a whole new thing yeah somebody accidentally

cut the cord to the entire thing it's like how what are we doing are we all on the same page here is this sabotage early in the contracting i don't know ian is what i'm saying so middle august you come on by. It'll be done. The court will be back, hopefully. That's what we're hoping for. I like how you keep a level head with this and don't get involved in the minutia. Bingo.

Yeah, because if I do, just every day I'll wake up like, how are they fucking us today? You know, but they're not. It's supply and demand. I don't understand the entire process i guess anyways it's coming okay how about new contracts you said summer's normally time for big contract kyler murray deal obviously something people are going to continue to talk about albert breer followed up though quentin nelson minka fitzpatrick derwin james and many other big name players yeah are either coming into their last year of their contracts or are up for contracts.

When are we going to see any movement? Do you expect that? Do you not expect that with anybody? Yeah, I would say those three you mentioned, Quinton Minka and Derwin James, are all potential contract extension guys. And I would say for their teams, that is very, very firmly on the radar. Do they get it done?

I don't know. They don't always, right? Especially for, you know, Quentin Nelson's deal. I mean, he is, I don't need to tell you, like, he is awesome. Yes. And he is also the kind of guy as a guard that might get paid like a not guard, right? He's so good that he might get paid like maybe, you know, among the top offensive linemen, not just talking about guards.

So that might be a deal that takes a while to get done. If it gets done, he obviously deserves it. I think, you know, Derwin's similar too. Like he's a safety, but he's obviously a lot more. Minka kind of similar. So I think all those three, you know, could potentially get deals. It's just, you know, those feel to me like maybe early training camp type situations. I think with the Steelers and Minka, they generally don't negotiate

during the season at all. That was under the old regime. No, still though. Do we know that? We do. 100%. Omar Khan, wow, that's crazy. It is crazy that the Steelers have a new GM.

It has been 20 years. New regime, same method as the old regime. No negotiations during the season, so those usually happen kind of the week before. Okay, and Kyler Murray, is that already happening? We talked to Steve Kime, what was that, two weeks ago? Last week.

He seemed pretty confident. He did, right? And he gave a timeline even. He said, hey, July to August. Is that what you're expecting and what you're hearing as well? Yeah. I mean, there's going to be usually a little push right before training camp because if you're Kyler, obviously he's going to show up. They always show up because you don't want to mess with your guaranteed money. But if it's not done, let's say by the start of training camp, does he participate? Does he risk injury? Does he sort of sit in and say, I'm going to protect myself until a deal is done?

Like all that gets on the table and nobody likes that. What's that number looking like, Ian, you think for him? You know, it's going to be in the 40s. And the quarterback market is actually pretty well defined, right? So you got Rodgers at 50 on an extension. You got Deshaun at 46, but it's a new deal. So depending on your metric, those guys are either, you know, one of those guys is the highest paid,

whether you consider the extension or just the overall deal for... Well, it depends on how you report it, Ian, yeah. Well, you know... Yeah, you need to change your ways one particular day. Both have a claim. Yeah, yeah, of course. And then Stafford just signed, right?

What did Stafford sign for? Stafford got, I believe, if I remember correctly, 43 over the first three. So that's kind of what his deal is. So it basically averages 43 on the extension. You have Dak at 40. He's going to be above that. So that's like a pretty good – there's another that I'm missing, but that's a pretty good barometer. Well, Mahomes is at $50 a year,

isn't he? He signed a 10-year deal worth half a billion dollars. Is that not what happened? His is $40, if I remember correctly, $40 for the first five, $50 for the next five. So it averages $45. It's a hard deal to sort of equate and figure out.

These guys lie. Why do you guys lie about the money all the time? Why do you guys do that. Why do you guys lie about the money all the time? Why do you guys do that? Why do you guys lie about the money? It just depends on how you look at it. Ten years, half a billion dollars, is what was being talked about for Patrick Mahomes, right? Wasn't that what it was? That's true.

It's $4.53, I think is the overall number, which is... $47 million less than 500 million. Yeah, that's right. You are the best, dude. Okay, you are the best. Now, is the guaranteed money a thing because of the Sean Watson deal, right? I feel like a lot of people got upset with the Browns because they gave $230 million guaranteed. I don't remember if it was reported lines out of the meeting or suggested lines from the Bengals and the Ravens

who have to pay Joey Burrow and Lamar, and they were like, excuse me, why'd you guys do this with quarterback with this much guaranteed money? I don't know if that was a meme that I read or actuality. There was a lot of people that are pissed about that. Is that what Kyler's expecting and what quarterbacks are expecting going forward or you don't think so? That's going to be the battle. I think Kyler is really a perfect test case because if you're the Cardinals,

you could probably maybe even get a little bit of a lower overall number with a much, much, much higher full guarantee. If the Cardinals wanted to fully guarantee the deal, maybe he would accept a little less on the overall, like the yearly average to get fully guaranteed. So if you're the Cardinals and you know, he's going to be your quarterback, you

might want to do it. If you're Kyler, like, would you like that? Probably. But you may also say, you know what? I believe in myself. I'm going to be fine. I'm going to take the higher, higher overall number. But that's the first major quarterback test case to see if Deshaun Watson set a precedent or if it was more like the Kirk Cousins deal, which was fully guaranteed. When was that? Five years? Whenever he was a free agent. I think it was five years ago.

And it sort of didn't really, it was a great deal for him, but didn't move the needle as far as other quarterbacks. So is that why Lamar's picking and choosing and waiting? I think that Lamar is picking and choosing and waiting because he would like to be what Kirk Cousins has been. You know, like if he plays out this year and plays well, and last year was kind of like an okay year for him, and he still had some amazing moments.

Like if he stays healthy this year. COVID, injuries, it was a bad year. That was a bad year last year for him and he still had some amazing moments like if he stays healthy injuries it was a bad yeah hey there's that was a that was a bad year last year for lamar yeah his stats and everything are still going to be great he's lamar fucking jackson but what i mean there was like a covet out the gate yeah both running and there was a couple illnesses along the way too and then an ankle thing which didn't heal great you know but it's fine now but but probably took a little longer than they thought during the season um but you know if he if he plays it out and continues to play well let's say they make the playoffs and do well as they've done you know he's looking at an unbelievably massive number when he's a free agent let's go three years from

now oh because the two franchise tags back to back you're saying? Fifth year option, franchise tag, franchise tag. Jesus. I mean, that kind of... Could he be 60? I mean, we're talking 60 million. Like, what could that be though? That's a lot of money. The franchise tag grows too, right? I mean,

it would bump up in the second year that you get it. What does it bump up? 15%? 20%? What is it? It's 110%, I think it is. Yeah, 10%. And the top five will be north of 40 if Kyler gets paid more than 40. Because Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers and Stafford and Dak right now. Are all over 40. Top five, the average of that would probably be about $45 million.

Yeah. So that would be the first one. No, at this point it would probably be a little bit higher. It would probably be $47. Yeah, because Herbert and them might get a deal. And Joey Burrow might get another deal. Burrow, Herbert. I mean, there are some young quarterbacks who are going to make a lot of money.

Like, that is. They deserve it. But everybody's going to be making a lot of money, I think, as the salary cap goes up. But the quarterback market's only going to continue to grow, especially for guys that are good. But if we start doing the math here, he's gambling that he's going to get at least, what,

$100 million over the next three years, right? I don't know what his contract is for next year. but if we start doing the math here he's gambling that he's going to get at least what 100 million over the next three years right i don't know his contract is for next year but then 47 and a bump 10 so that's 51 for the next year or whatever so that's 100 and probably what 15 million he's betting yeah over the next three years something like that yeah which like you know let's say he loses which he's not going to become bad injury would be the only thing which hopefully that doesn't happen but he's not going to become bad so even if he just gambles with that like that's you know you end up with 100 million like he's still doing okay but you know that maybe he's never publicly said this but this has always been my feel that he wants

the absolute big record-setting payday and this is is the way to do it. Yeah, it is. If he balls for another three years and earns $115 million, and he's an unrestricted free agent, and he's Lamar Jackson, you got Tepper in there right now in Carolina. Imagine what Tepper would fucking pay if Lamar Jackson was a free agent to come save the Panthers franchise.

Let alone a new owner that's going to be somewhere else or something. He's like, I'm just going to get this hundred and some mil, and then we are going to go for $400 million guaranteed. Let's go, Lamar. Hey, good luck out there. There we go, Lamar. Good luck out there.

We're pulling for you. Ty, your question for Mr. Wrap-Up Heart? Rap Sheet, does what happens with Aaron Donald have any bearing on OBJ, or is it already kind of a foregone conclusion that he's not going to be a Ram next year? And have you heard of his like injury prognosis here or any teams that are potentially interested in him? I don't think the money, we'll see what Odell can get. He's such an interesting case because he's probably not going to play, you know, I would say first several games might be half the season. The timing of the injury was so bad for a guy that looked like he was probably playing as well as he'd played maybe since his first or second year with the Giants.

He was playing great. The timing was terrible. So I don't know that the money he's going to command the first year would matter that much. Let's say Aaron Donald gets a deal, and I think Cooper Cupp, another potential contract extension guy, maybe that much. Like, I don't think what, like, let's say Aaron Donald gets a deal. And I think Cooper cup, another potential contract extension guy, maybe that happens, but it's not like Odell is going to be getting 15 million in year one. I don't think because he's probably not going to play first a little bit. So like for him, he'd be more of the second and third year money. So I don't think the Donald contract would affect him. And I do think him being with the Rams is still a possibility.

They liked everything they saw last year, and he liked them too. Follow-up, how about Indomitian Sioux? Yeah, the Bucs kind of moving on from Sioux and signing Akeem Hicks yesterday was, I would say, a little bit surprising.

We were surprised. Will they bring Indomitian Sioux back still, you think, with that, or no? I don't think yesterday was, I would say, like a little bit surprising. We were surprised. We were surprised. Will they bring Ndamukong Su back still, you think, with that or no? I don't think he's going back to the Bucs. Back to the Rams then? Maybe, but I don't think so. Because remember, if they're spending a lot on Donald, you spend a lot of that position.

Some people say, you know what, we've allocated enough money to this position. There's some other teams interested, but obviously that was a blow for him. He's not coming to the Colts. Actually, I don't know. He might. So that means you know a couple of places he's going to go if you shot down the Colts that much. What are some teams?

I've heard Raiders would be one of those teams potentially. But the problem is he's 35 and he has done one-year deals every time, and he believes very strongly in his value, like very strongly. So does he get the money he wants, or does he say, all right, at 35 I've made, God, I don't even know how much he's made, so much. That Dolphins deal. I just look back for Gumpy.

He's not there. We miss you, Gumpy. Miss Dolphins deal. I just looked back for Gumpy. He's not there. We miss you, Gumpy. Miss you, Gumpy. But yeah, that Dolphins deal, I remember, was groundbreaking, right? It was huge. $100 million deal or something like that. Yeah.

It was like the... Hainsworth? Yeah, Albert Hainsworth deal with Washington. I can't remember what the... Do you remember what the... I can't remember what the actual numbers... Well, that's because you guys never reported them. Yeah.

Wow, no. Yeah, well... Very specifically. That was a free free agent that was probably the biggest free agent deal we'd seen in a while guaranteed too i think right because everybody's uh maybe not i don't know it was a lot guaranteed i know that 60 million guaranteed or something like that is what's either just dropped in my ear and warren buffett's like his in his advisor or something like that 114 million overall 60 million guaranteed war Warren Buffett's like his advisor. He's looking to become a billionaire, like business, super into

stocks, I think, and the whole business side of things. He has a bunch of stores. That's why he respects his value. He's surrounded himself with a bunch of top-notch investor hedge fund dudes. So after football, he will probably be fine. Well, congrats to him, Tom. He's good.

Come play for the Colts. Go get it, Raiders. Too many people got in the Raiders. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Rapshie Dawkins. Come play for the Colts. Look at the Raiders. Too many people coming to the Raiders. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Rapshie, is there any update on the Dan Snyder front? And also, if they're building a new stadium, will the price of that franchise, if he does have to sell it, be less because the new owner would have to pay for the new stadium? Or would it be more because they're

upgrading their entire facility? Excellent question. I would think if they build a new state like the first of all i don't know that dan snyder is going to sell but let's just based on the question let's just assume that that at some point is the case i think it'd be more valuable because you would buy the the land and the stadium so if you were an nfl owner and you own all of it that is extremely lucrative like the guy the teams the teams that have that set up. And that's why, you know, I think with the, with the bears, remember they bought some land in Arlington

Heights. I think it is, you know, that makes the franchise more valuable because you put a stadium there theoretically, and then you can develop the land like an outdoor mall or a concert, something, whatever it is, Patriot place, casino, whole thing. I mean, we're talking real money. Not that it's not real money, but we're talking real money.

$400 billion. I mean, ridiculous. There is a update on Dan Snyder. So coming from Congress today, they requested Roger Goodell and Dan Snyder sit with them and answer questions. I believe the hearing is June 22nd. This right here. And the NFL responded by saying that. So basically the sort of missive from Congress was the NFL has blocked everything.

It has not cooperated. Dan Snyder has blocked everything and not cooperated. We must talk to both of them. The NFL responded with this saying that we've actually cooperated and we'll respond when we do, but we've also turned over almost half a million documents we'll say. I mean, you just throw around that half a half. Yeah. Similar to the Mahomes deal.

Yeah, I know. That's what I'm referring to. Right. Similar to the Mahomes deal. Yeah, I know. That's what I'm referring to. Right. So what they want is the Beth Wilkinson document that came from the NFL's investigation into workplace practices with the commanders. It seems the document was never made and doesn't exist.

So what Congress wants is to find out everything they can about that situation. And they are also looking into the finances. Remember a couple of weeks ago, there was news about a potential ticket scheme. Looking into that as well. So they want Goodell and Snyder to sit with them and answer questions, which I assume would be under oath. And we'll see, you know, we'll see what they decide. That could be some high drama on June 22nd. Okay, so Snyder and Goodell are going to have to answer questions. Goodell, by the way, I know they're politicians.

Good luck. Goodell is a master deflector. One of the greatest. Would be able to take any other jobs if he wanted to, just strictly because of how he can speak, the amount of money he has to fund himself, and everything like that. Dan Snyder, though, from what

we have heard, not going to perform well at this. Put some pressure on that guy. This is not going to go great. It's going to be a fifth, I assume, played a lot. Wombs games like performance. That's what I'm wondering. But you compound that with the Gruden

NFL thing going on. Hey, are we looking at potentially the last couple months here of Roger Goodell's reign as the commissioner of the NFL with how public this could all potentially get? I don't think so. It sounded like there was some reports coming out of the owners meeting or the, what do you call it, spring meeting, there you go, two weeks ago that some owners are looking at potentially extending him.

So, you know, we'll see if that happens. But I don't I don't believe this would have a negative effect on him. You know, depending on what Congress finds, it might have a negative effect on Dan Snyder. Very possible. You know, the Las Vegas Raiders are so interesting because on field they look good. Like they look like they are going to be maybe very good. Off the field in the front office, it's been the opposite. And we're not talking like GM. We're talking like a couple team presidents, allegations against Mark Davis and the organization.

The NFL is going to look into it, so we'll see what comes of that. Yeah, and if that goes public, I mean, I'd be intrigued to hear what all is going to come out through discovery if that's potentially a thing 460 000 emails is a lot of emails that they said they've turned over to them but wasn't it 650 000 or something with the reported number at the beginning of that this could all be a very loud off season for the nfl i'm sure they can't wait for fucking Rams-Bills. Let's just get to Rams-Bills, please. I'm excited to see what takes place. But when you're at the top of the mountain, Ian,

there's always going to be this type of situation. Tone Diggs has no question for you. I think that's because you've already answered everything you could potentially answer for us, aside from one thing, and this will be the last one we have to let you go on. And we thank you for joining us on this incredible Wednesday

where you're probably going to try to get 27 holes in. Wow. We still be stewards of the game around. Always. Champions of stewarding the game around here. Deshaun Watson, a 23rd, and I think Floria is reporting a 24th on the way. The NFL said they've concluded their investigation like two weeks ago. This all seems to only be

growing right this isn't slowing down what are you expecting from that because I think at one point the thought was that Deshaun Watson's penalty from the NFL would come like maybe last week or this week now with more accusations coming is that only I mean this is probably going to last a few years right if he's going to court with 24 people well first of all this this is why the NFL really takes its time. And, you know, everybody wants a decision like yesterday. But there's a couple of things that we've learned from the 23rd and we'll see maybe 24th allegation.

Again, allegation. And Rusty Hart and Deshaun's lawyer came out extremely strongly against this, the 23rd, as you would expect. This is why the NFL takes its time because what it doesn't want is to issue a ruling and then have more come out. So I would assume, I believe, that they will look at this 23rd like they've looked at the rest of them, see if there is something new, take a look at the veracity and examine it before making any sort of decision. The other thing is you're going to see,

and this happens every time there's a big disciplinary matter, people say that they think the suspension will be X games, whatever it is. Nobody knows. And, like, that's okay because we don't know. The Shons people doesn't know. The Browns don't know. And I'm not even sure. I don't believe that Roger Goodell or the third party arbitrator

knows either because they don't even know 100, 100, 100 percent what they're looking at. So the hope would be to have something decided before training camp. I believe that is probably going to happen. We'll see if this 23rd kind of delays things a bit. OK, so you still believe that there will be some sort of suspension handed out before training camp begins? I believe there will be some sort of disciplinary ruling before training camp. Final? Is there like a double jeopardy potentially with this with the NFL or is that the final

ruling you think from the NFL? What they will say, I believe, is what they've said in the past, which is we issue this ruling, we reserve the right if there's more to add to it or come back and alter it. But the ruling will, I feel, very final

and probably, probably will be. Very serious allegations. We will all watch along as we hope justice is served. Yep. Whichever way justice shall be rightfully served. That's a lot of allegations. A lot of them. Tons.

All right, anyways, get back to the course. We appreciate the hell out of you, Ian. Please, you know, at least work a little bit to keep us updated on what's going on in our favorite league, biggest league. We appreciate the hell out of you. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Yeah, Reggie!

That was a man who said he absolutely loved it. His favorite movie. Yeah. Him and General Bob Carpenter have each seen it two times already. Whoa. I might go check it out for a second time as well. Oh. No, I'm not going to.

I'll wait until it comes to the house because you don't need to see it on the biggest theater imaginable like we did. Biggest theater in the state right over there. No. Certainly helps though. Certainly fucking felt like I was in the cockpit a couple of times. It was magical. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Tom Cruise, super fan, Top Gun super fan, college football national champion super bowl champion rhino cup champion covet survivor aj ha aj a little different costume today you got a hoodie on huh yeah i got a hoodie on i'm glad

you saw the movie man you liked it loved it loved it absolutely loved it i mean they made me feel feelings in there a little bit. Like many different times, right? Like it wasn't like, hey, this part is kind of like emotional or whatever. It's like, hey, they just keep hitting them with you, I guess, as the movie goes. Well, and also, whoever scored it, the music really adds to the emotional feeling. Kenny Long and Zimmer. Gaga was a big part of it, too. Yeah, well, Gaga was there at the end, I think, right?

She really brought it home. The staple of the franchise. The first soundtrack is iconic. Yeah, Harold Faltenmeier. It's unbelievable. I was starting to feel something at one part of the movie and I was like, this is not something you're supposed to feel. I started to listen.

What happened? I was starting to feel sorry for the situation. I was starting to feel emotional for it all. I was like, there's no sorry for the situation. Like I was starting to feel like emotional for it all. And I was like, there's no way you're supposed to be emotional at this part. I'm like, why am I feeling this way? And then I heard the strings in the background. Oh, it's the fucking. That is why they literally just forced me into feeling like this.

They got me. It's like, I guess I'm all the way. I loved it, AJ. Quite an experience. I understand why you and Bobby Carpenter have each seen it twice, though. What if I haven't seen it twice? I've only seen it once. Oh, General Bob told me you've seen it three times, four times.

No, I saw it one time. Oh, no, General Bob saw it twice. I thought you both saw it twice. I'll have to watch it at my house at some time with General Bob. That will be an experience in itself. Him responding to one of my IG stories, there's nothing about movies, military, aircrafts, Tom Cruise, and just saying, you need to go see Top Gun. He had to get it out.

He saw my story. I can't fucking take it. You got to go see Top Gun. If he gets on you about Game of Thrones, it's over. I told you, he built like 100 pages of an outline that you could watch Game of Thrones with to follow through to try to figure out, hey, these are the storylines going on right now. This is who this person is. General Bob Carpenter.

He built a full outline that you could – he was dead serious. And he's like – because I told him the same thing I always say, man, I can't understand so many accents, whatever. There's 4,000 storylines. He's like, no, bro, I built this big outline that you can honestly sit and watch with you as you go through the whole show. It kind of explains what's going on. I had no idea he was this committed to different types of entertainment. That's magical. We always just assumed that General Bob was football,

lifting, testosterone, football, lifting, testosterone. Honestly, I believe that was his life. Turns out, he's this movie buff. He's a film critic. He knows his stuff. I wouldn't have won, I don't think, if Bob Carpenter doesn't send me an unannounced

DM, basically, out of the book. You need to go see it. I enjoyed the hell out of that movie, AJ. You saw the original? Oh yeah, the original is my favorite movie of all time, so yeah. Better than the new one? Yeah, I mean, I don't i don't like to rank things but no i'm not gonna say that the sequel is better thank you whoa that's what

connor was saying connor was awesome they can each standalone be awesome and i have no idea how they did it but they made a sequel that was great okay so if they're each awesome and the other one's your favorite movie of all time that means one's more awesome than the other yeah i don't know maybe not maybe it just depends on what mind front like how i feel when i watch each one oh when you saw the first one what stage of life you were in and yeah maybe that was it i know when i went and saw top gun on memorial day like i was in the right frame of mind to see that like i felt like i was into it i wasn't distracted i wasn't whatever like even though i was with all my kids and they were getting lost and going to the bathroom every three minutes,

I still was able to lock in and stay with the movie. You're an Iceman guy? That's the critic from the back asking if that's why the movie a little bit different. What do you mean? No, I've always liked Iceman. I think how they worked him in was beautiful. I thought so, too. I thought it was amazing.

No spoilers. No spoilers. No. But. For Iceman. Yep. That's right. Love you, Iceman.

Let's move along. Okay. Quite a spoiler there. Adam Thielen hit some fucking bombs last night. He made it to the finals of the Home Run Derby. We do not know if he won. But our prediction of him bombing balls because he bombs golf balls was 100% accurate.

This video hit the internet last night. It is him stepping into a batter's box in front of a good amount of people, by the way, raising good money over there in Minnesota and hitting a ball that we cannot see anymore. That ball is gone. No idea where it went. Justin Jefferson also gritted down the third baseline.

We assume he hit an absolute bomb out there. Love this type of time of year whenever this type of shit happens as opposed to all the other conversations we had with Rappaport about the NFL. So much happening in the offseason, both philanthropically, camaraderie. Everything that happens in the NFL rarely gets talked about. I love the fact that we got the opportunity to chat with Thielen beforehand. He calls a shot, hits a bomb, raises a bunch of money.

The NFL's good, right? The NFL's a good place. The NFL largely is full of great people, honestly. The majority of all players, honestly, are good dudes. That's what people I think sometimes have a weird... How they see it from the outside. They got to actually know people. It's cool to see how awesome people really are, but Thielen, I think, sometimes have a weird, like how they see it from the outside. If they got to actually know people,

it's cool to see how awesome people really are. But Thielen, I think I saw something where he said, like, you know, whatever he does, like what he's doing with his foundation is 10 times more important than anything he ever does on the field. Like, he's all in, too. Like, Thielen, think about this guy when he's done playing football. If you go, is he going to go back to Minnesota or stay in Minnesota and just dominate, like, beer league, softball, pick up basketball jordy nelson he's jordy nelson of minnesota

oh can you imagine he and jordy put a team together a softball team together and faced each other oh here we go but jj wad on that squad too he'll be joining us in about an hour jj we'll be joining us in about an hour put him on the. What? Will be joining us in about an hour. Put him on the squad, right? He has a home run derby every single year. That means he hits bombs. You only host home run derbies if you yourself can hit home runs. That's right. So J.J.

Watt, we'll ask him in about an hour or so. He has to hit bombs. What if they put together a alumni NFL? Obviously, J.J. is still playing. We're not saying he's anywhere near being done, but you get it. What if there was an alumni NFL team that just traveled around and did charity softball games against people?

That would be a pretty good idea, I think. Yeah. I'd say. Yeah, I would imagine. Would you want Russ Wilson? Is Russ a home run hitter or is he just second base like a slap hitter? He's playing, but when he retires, I think he could probably – he's probably playing the outfield in softball, right?

Yeah. Hitting lasers into the gap, too. Yeah, I think outfield is where – He might bunt a few times. Listen, I know the beer league softball is very real around Plum. They used to hang out at Big Dog. Oh, they travel around. They're dead serious.

Every bar's got a team. Yeah, that's a fucking real thing. There is – there's a home run limit, right? You're only – if you have plus four home runs or something like that, it's an out if you hit another home run. Are there balls to the infield, or is every ball going to the outfield basically mostly outfield but i mean they'll try to slap one on the ground

through i mean you got still a good player at fucking short for sure yeah you have that your third and short have to be lights out i seen coach digs in the boys after one of their softball games down there at the bar what seemed to be celebrating pretty hard playing softball yeah yeah you used to have the bike shorts on oh yeah we used to around. Pistol used to play on a team doing that. Really? We used to go – I still remember going to the park and – he did a tournament on the weekends. He was lefty leadoff slap hitter in softball,

so not a lot of fun to watch him try to beat out little slap shots to third. Well, as a kid, you were booing your dad. Hey, why can't you be fun like Braun Strowman's dad? Adam Scherr's dad. Fourth and fifth. I guess he's the home run Braun Strowman's dad? Yeah. Adam Scher's dad. Fourth and fifth. I guess he's the home run hitting softball champion of the entire world. He's got a YouTube highlight video worth a watch. Braun Strowman's dad?

Yeah. He hits lasers. Yeah. And in the field, too. Like, has an absolute fucking hose as well. Are we serious? Yes. Yes.

What's his dad's name? Adam Scher Sr. I'm not 100% sure. Adam Scherr is the name of Braun Strowman on Instagram. And I seen him on his Instagram hit a softball quarter mile. And in the captioner, he was talking. He's like, nothing like my dad, but I try or something like that. And he gets bombed.

So I looked up his dad. Rick Scherr is his name. Balls are slaughtered by this guy i mean it was crusher it's just yeah nickname was crusher different level it's like yeah you see big ball hitters and then that guy steps in there and it's like perfect contact on the screws swinging science yes watching them how they load up and like depending on how much backspin those dudes put on those pitches the slow pitch it's crazy michael bolton used to have a really good team that traveled around the country and played.

So what did Michael Bolton do that's terrible that made you mention him on this show? Nothing. He was like a legit singer that people were big fans of, but he was also a great softball player. Let me look up what Michael Bolton. He seems clean. That a baby. Look at you, AJ.

I've told you. I played with him in Tahoe one time, and it was awesome. Throw of a lifetime. I don't remember that. I apologize. The fact that you played with him in Tahoe one time And it was awesome Throw up a lifetime I don't remember that I apologize The fact that you played with Michael Bolton Is legendary But I just assumed

Because it came out of that mouth On this show That you were saying something For us to go We're talking softball You know how my brain's firing Michael Bolton I know he's a great softball player

Boom boom Full speed AJ Hawk Let's keep it moving Let's go into the next topic Hey this golf thing is a problem. What golf thing? And by problem, I mean problem for PGA.

The Saudi league called Live, L-I-V-E. I don't know if that's Roman numerals. I don't know if that's pronounced. Live on Sunday. King of Diamonds Monday. Swaggergist. Dumb. Call it Kelly Bundy.

No offense, but that was the character that she was playing in a show that Nick still watches every single weekend. Favorite children, yep, love it. Anyways, the Live League was announced last night for its first event in London, and Dustin Johnson's on there. Wow. Just 100 days removed from Dustin Johnson in the PGA putting out a statement basically talking about how great the PGA is

and how great the PGA players are and how you never leave the league. A hundred days later, it is announced that Dustin Johnson, Sergio Garcia, Ian Poulter, Kevin Na, Lee Westwood, Louis Wustasen, Martin Kamer, Charles Schwartzel, Graham McDowell, Taylor Gooch, not listed, not going, Phil Mickelson. The reason why this is such a big deal is because the PGA Tour has had zero competition, I believe is how everybody feels about it since the beginning of the PGA Tour. And we learned from Justin Thomas just two weeks ago, about three weeks ago,

two weeks before he won the PGA Championship in which he pocketed like $2.7 million. The PGA has no contracts for any of these golfers. The money you make is literally the money you have to go and win and earn every single weekend. Now there's sponsorship money, but how's your sponsorship money come? Well, you got to play well, you got to get on TV. So the fact that they have a tour in a league that doesn't have any contracts or benefits really for the professional golfers, I think this opportunity for another league has been sitting there for a very, very long time. In Saudi, this live league is taking advantage of that.

I would assume they're paying appearance fees, which it says Johnson and Garcia are receiving hefty appearance fees or even contracts to compete in a specified number of events on top of the prize money. This is via Sports Illustrated dot com. S.I. dot com. Total purse. Twenty five million with 20 million earmarked for the individual portion of the event. Four million go to the winner. I guess the entire purse for the U.S. Open or something is $12.5 million or something like that. Last year it was, with $2.5 million to the winner, I believe. So this purse is bigger than almost all but one tournament, I think, for the PGA?

The closest one was the Players, which happened last week, and that total purse is $20 million. And I think, or one was the players, which happened last week, and that total purse is $20 million. And I think, what's it, or two weeks ago, and I think JT got like $3 million or something for the win. So they're offering up appearance fees, contracts, and bigger purses. And the PGA has been basically the one-stop shop for golf for all of these years, and they had no appearance fees,, no contracts in smaller purses. If you think business just natural, you would assume that this would have happened a long time ago. This feels like the first legitimate one, and maybe there's been other attempts at another league.

Joining us now, the second Rappaport of this two Rappaports and a wide Top Gun Wednesday. PGA Tour Insider for Golf Digest, Northwestern Alumni, ladies and gentlemen, Dan Rappaport. Dan! Wow, thank you. I appreciate that. Hey, Dan, no, thank you for making time for us today.

We appreciate the hell out of you because we have questions. We don't know your world as well as you, we hope at least. How has this not happened a lot sooner with the fact that the PGA Tour has no contracts, no appearance fees, and players have to earn every single dollar that they make out there we just learned that a couple weeks ago that made no sense to any of us i assume once you got your card you got a certain amount of money and then money totals and bonuses happen that's not the case how has this not happened earlier or has there been attempts and this is just the

first one with massive financial backing i think it's more the second one that you said. I think people have realized that this is a sort of vulnerability on the PGA Tours model that could be exposed by the right people. But look how much money it's taking, right? I mean, DJ, the rumors are like $100 or $150 million before prize money. That's just a guarantee. So it's not like anyone can show up and do this. They need

the backing of something like the PIF, which is the public investment fund, the Saudi entity that is funding this thing. And they aren't profit motivated. And that makes them very, very dangerous because they can afford to spend all this money up front and lose all of this money because their goal is not to make money their goal is to soften their image to the world their goal is to present a new face of saudi arabia so if you're some other upstart and you say okay i'm gonna throw 200 million dollars at all these golfers yeah they might play but you won't be around very long you're gonna burn through all your cash they have a bottomless pit of cash so they're a very very dangerous adversary for the pga tour so what

what all options does the commissioner of the PGA Tour have? What can he do to these players, or what can he not do? Well, he's walked a very hard line, and I guess to his credit, he hasn't wavered from that the entire time. He said, look, if you go play in these things, you will be punished. And that punishment might include a suspension. It might include an expulsion. I don't think anyone's going to get hurt.

How can he do that? There's no contracts. There's no contracts. Well, there's's no contracts but there is a player handbook that these guys signed any of the year which is Guiding the rules and in the handbook it says very very clearly You can apply to play in three events every year that aren't PGA Tour events that happen the same week as PGA Tour events Usually this is like a technicality that never it just never comes up because it's not relevant. This year obviously it is relevant. So they can give those and they can allow you to play

but they also cannot allow you to play and they can deny those releases. So all of these guys who are playing in this event they don't want to get kicked off the PGA Tour so they applied for these releases they were told no. And it's not a breach of conduct until you actually stick a tee in the ground

so you'll see that the pga tour is posturing they're saying we're going to do this we're going to do this we're going to punish you but they haven't actually done anything because no one's actually against the rules until they actually tee it up in that tournament so that's what we're waiting to see so they're signing a contract they sign a contract basically with the pga tour every single year and it's because it's the only game in town I assume that's why everybody signs it hey you're not paying me any money you're not guaranteeing me anything but I can guarantee you that I won't do all these things with the guaranteed money stuff is interesting because these guys have big endorsement deals which is guaranteed money right like yeah that only happens that only happens if they play good and they're on

TV right correct that only happens to the best players. But look, in the last two years, I think it's telling. They've found a lot of money to give these guys that they didn't have before. There's a new thing where if you play 15 events on the PGA Tour, you get 50 grand just for playing 15 events, which is not crazy money. But for some guys, that's a nice 50 grand. Now they have the Comcast Top 10, I think it's called, where at the end of the regular season for the fedex cup the top 10 guys get a significant amount of money the winner gets multiple million dollars then they have this new player impact program which the winner who's going to be tiger again probably is going to get 10 million dollars right exactly that's bringing attention to the pga tour so so the guys notice

the guys notice that they're finding this money that they didn't have before and it's just magically appearing now that there's a competitor. Yeah, so that's the thing. I would assume, and I mean, this goes back to what Sergio Garcia said to the official, I can't wait to fucking get out of here or something like that. Players have been, this happens in every league. I think this happens at every workplace where people are at work, not necessarily thrilled with every decision or thing that happens above them in the building. I think it happens in the NFL.

I think it happens probably in the MLB. I assume it happens in the NBA. It definitely happens in the PGA, especially if they're not getting paid. I mean, that's a tough thing. All these guys have been talking about doing something like this for a long time, I assume, players, not all players, but a lot of players in the PGA have probably been talking about something like this where we got to band together and we got to go somewhere.

And then they've all backed out. This is kind of like with the NCAA for a long time. A lot of NCAA players are like, hey, we need to come together and we need to make a change or a difference for everything in the future. Never, ever happened. Is that what has happened kind of amongst PGA players for a long time? And is this the first one where, I mean, DJ's a big name. Sergio Garcia's a big name.

I mean, towards the end of their shit, right? But still big names in that. DJ's not. DJ's right in his prime. It's not the first time. And Greg Norman, the guy who's actually in charge of this league, tried to do it in 1994. He tried to start what was called the World Golf Tour,

and he tried to sign up the biggest players in the world. He's been fed up with the PGA for so long. This is petty because what happened was he was moving in the right direction, and Tim Fincham, who was the commissioner at the time, went full politics. He was an old lawyer, and he had a lot of connections in the Carter administration, and he went to Capitol Hill, and he basically leaned on these lawyers, and they got a very favorable ruling that basically upheld a ban for guys who wanted to do this and they sort of successfully fended that off. I think another reason why is because Greg Norman was behind it

and Greg Norman was not the most popular guy whereas you had Jack and Gary Player and Arnold Palmer were on the PGA Tour side so that's why it fizzled out but yeah I mean this is not a new idea it's the only real I guess tennis is sort of similar, but it's the only real major American sport where you don't have a guaranteed paycheck. Like James Harden, if he plays like shit, he's still getting whatever, 500 Gs or whatever for the game. If Dustin Johnson misses the cut – and this is the other part. Not only is he not getting money, but, like, let's say a guy misses the cut at the Masters, okay,

and he's got a house for his boys and he's got a house for his family. He's probably in a, in a shot and stuff. He's fine. He's probably taking like a 50 K loss on that week. If he misses the cut, I mean, it can pile up really quickly.

And I think, you know, people think that golfers make all this money and it's like, yeah, they do, but they have way more experience. I mean, you know,

this Pat, like NFL players, NBA players, they don't pay for shit. They don't pay for food. They don't pay for their hotel. Then the golfers are paying for all of their stuff so their expenses are way higher than other athletes and you got to tip out the caddy i assume that's an entire thing and all the staff i mean this feels like

this has been a recipe for a competitor for a long time now the pga is going to have to back it up you said maybe not expulsion so what would the punishment be and how does everybody not look at dustin johnson getting a hundred and some million dollars guaranteed plus a prize pool that's bigger than all but one tournament the pga has in the first event in london then there's event in portland then there's an event somewhere like new jersey then there's an event somewhere else and you got like three weeks in between them you can go come, come home, go, come home, make more money. How does the PGA plan to combat that, you think? Punishment?

I don't know if that's the best. Like, is that the best way? I don't think so. They're going to do that, and it's going to get challenged in the courts immediately. I mean, with Dustin Plays, they're going to suspend him probably from the FedEx Cup, which is where a big part of their bonuses come from.

Remember, the guy who wins the FedEx Cup is $15 million for the grand prize, and that's only going up and up, so they can try and ban them from that. But no, the PGA Tour is basically counting on legacy and loyalty, which is really a dangerous place to be. You're saying, you know, Jack and Art. Well, listen, because golf is sort of sentimental in this way. I know, I know. I'm trying to present, you know, Jack and well, listen, because golf is golf is sort of sentimental in this. I know. I know. I'm trying to present. I'm trying to present.

You know, these tournaments are are old, like the one this week, the Memorial. You know, Jack built the golf course and this is Jack's tournament and it benefits Jack's charity. And they have all this goodwill on their side and they have the record book. Right. Like, you know, you want to break Tiger's records. You want to break Jack's records. That's on the PGA Tour. So that's that's a big thing they have on their side is history and legacy and i think it was telling jay monaghan in sort of one of his first press conferences afterwards said the pga tour this is after mickelson made his comments about leverage basically saying i'm doing a leverage play and jay monaghan said at the pga tour we're about legacy not about leverage so they're really leaning into this like feel good

goodwill route um that should, but I don't know, man, in a capitalist, in a capitalist world, the more money tends to speak very, very loudly. And live doesn't, isn't necessarily the last one,

right? I mean, there's a lot of, no, there's a lot of people that have an exhort, a lot of money these days. There's, there's numerous,

there was another, there was another group called rain capital that was involved that didn't have Saudi money. And the Saudis kind of pushed them out. But like, I mean, an interesting thought experiment. There was another group called Rain Capital that was involved that didn't have Saudi money, and the Saudis kind of pushed them out. But, like, I mean, an interesting thought experiment. What if this league was run by Mark Cuban and not the Saudi Arabian government? That's what I'm saying.

What about Bezos? Yeah, I mean, it would be really, really tough. I mean, the PGA Tour does have a lot in their favor. I don't want to downplay their strength. But, you know, there's a vulnerability there, and maybe the PGA Tour, what they have to do is re-look at the way that they're structured. Maybe they should start deploying players. Maybe there should be contracts, but I know that

the players have so much leverage right now. I would love to be a PGA Tour player around my age right now. Yeah, I would like to just be able to putt like them, too. That'd be pretty sweet, with the hands around the green. Go ahead, Connor. Do you have a question for old Mr. Rappaport?

Is Phil Mickelson playing in this league? Because he wasn't on the list, but he kind of seemed like the first big, big name that wasn't really turning live down. I think he is. That's me saying I think so. That's me saying I think so, but look. There's 48 players who are going to play in this event.

There were 42 names on that list. There's five spots that are open for a different event, like a qualifying kind of thing this week, and then there's one more spot. I mean, if you look at Phil's apology right after... Hold on. Is the silhouette of a lefty

in that one spot? Is that what you're basically saying is what it's leading up to yeah i would be surprised if there wasn't phil i mean look at his apology after that interview came out it was like he was apologizing to the saudis more than the pga tour he apologized to live golf investments he didn't use the pga tour by name he gave that statement through his representatives a couple weeks ago where they said you know phil is has applied for a release he's never backed down on this. He was involved in founding it.

I mean, he really believes in it. I would be really surprised. I mean, maybe he won't play in this one, but he's playing in this thing. He's not just going to back it. Golf is more popular than ever, I believe, right now, and it might just be because everybody I'm around is playing a lot of it. But with the match happening today, and I assume, you know, more people getting into golf than ever before,

I think COVID also kind of helped spur this because it was something people could do in their house, but also being outside while not being around a lot of people is something that is desirable. I think more people have found. I assume that Liv is just the beginning of this. There's going to be others, right?

They already know the price. They just found out. They just found out. They just found out what the price is. $125 million, Dustin Johnson. $25 million entire prize pool for your first one. $4 million. It's already been laid out. Hey, here's a price that has already got the PGA.

There's no deal, right, with any of these players directly with. Could Dustin Johnson go play in another league, you think? Yeah. And I think Liv would... That's one of their selling points is Liv is not asking you to commit to Liv. They're not saying, oh, you come play in Liv and you can't play in anything else. They're saying,

we're giving you an opportunity to play for more money than you're playing for. And if you want to go play in Podunk, Iowa in the PGA Tour next week... Whoa, whoa, whoa! Some fucking great golf courses in Iowa. That's a goddamn John Deere you know, podunk Iowa and the PGA tour next week. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, We're just providing options to independent contractors. And I've spoken with their lawyers. They are chomping at the bit. They think that they're in the right here. And the PGA Tour thinks they're in the right as well.

So this thing is going to court. You bet your ass. I saw where Jack Nicholson reportedly, or someone said that he was offered 100 mil to have kind of the Greg Norman role in Live. Do you think Greg Norman got anywhere near 100 to have that role? Probably. Yeah, I mean, I don't know the numbers, but it definitely wasn't less than 50, I would think. What about sponsors now?

I know RBC came out and said they may drop Justin. They did. They did officially while we were talking here. Yeah, Royal Bank of Canada has dropped Dustin Johnson as a sponsor. You're saying he may be getting, like Dustin, like a $100,000, $125,000 guaranteed contract from Liv to play in a certain amount of events. Is that probably what's out there?

Yeah, I think maybe for a couple years. But, yeah, I mean, the RBC deal is significant, but it's not that. And he knew that was coming. He knew that was coming because when he went to play in Saudi Arabia, the RBC is a big sponsor of the PGA Tour. They have two events. They have the RBC Heritage and the RBC Canadian Open. They sponsor a bunch of golfers.

And when Dustin went to go play in the Saudi International a couple years ago, they took their patch off his sleeve. They said, don't wear it while you're in Saudi Arabia. So they clearly – and then the first live event, what is the PGA Tour event it's against? The RBC Canadian Open, which has – it's Royal Bank of Canada, hasn't been in Canada for two years because of the pandemic. They're so excited to have it back, and he says,

I'm on. So that was all a plan too, huh? Norman and Dustin were like, you know what, absolutely. Is there any chance we could potentially put it right here? You're saying that's no coincidence, it feels like. I think it actually is a coincidence, but I think it shows that

he knew what was coming. He knew, but it shows that he knew, he knew what was coming. He knew what was coming and he said, okay, like he fully knew that this sponsorship was going to be over, but this is more money than this. And it's like really that simple. Yeah.

We're talking sponsorship. Sponsorship is just cash. Yeah. I got a lot more in this other place. I will see you later. Relationships. The whole thought about it is a whole nother conversation. Go ahead.

Did they, did they time this in a way, or are you shocked like dj didn't wait to play in his first event in this until after the u.s open here in a couple weeks like was there any any thought amongst people like hey let's let's wait until this major's over and then maybe we go do it or there's a handful of tournaments after the after the the open over in the UK? Like, was there a thought to wait until after the majors? Absolutely, and I think a lot of guys are waiting until after the majors. What's that mean?

What's that mean? Follow up. I mean, this is not finished. I mean, I think a lot of these guys are waiting to see what happens to Dustin Johnson. There's a lot of other big-name players who we know have been contacted by Liv multiple times, right? Bryson DeChambeau is one of them. Phil, obviously, that's a bit of other big name players who we know have been contacted by Liv multiple times. Bryson DeChambeau is one of them.

Phil, obviously, that's a bit of a different case. But some of the European guys, or non-American Adam Scott is another one who said that he's been approached. I think a lot of these guys are waiting to see, OK, are they actually going to suspend DJ? And if they do suspend him, will there be some sort of court injunction where they can't suspend him until it works its way through the courts? Or will he be suspended until it works his way through the courts, or will he be suspended until it works his way through the courts? So I think there are a lot of guys who are really thankful for DJ being the kind of guinea pig on this,

seeing what happens, and then I wouldn't be surprised if more and more jumped after the majors, because, but also the majors haven't come out and really, they've said some things that they're sticking with the PGA Tour, but they're being really careful with their wording, because the majors aren't the PGA Tour. They're not the same thing. I know a lot of people have a hard time wrapping their head around that, but they're separate entities. And their mission is

not to promote the PGA Tour. Their mission is to be the biggest golf tournaments in the world. And so if some of the best players aren't playing on the PGA Tour, they're going to have to change their rules. It's just that simple. So the PGA Tour isn't even paying these players whenever they win. It's every golf course and tournament that's paying them. Well, no. I'm saying the major championships themselves are different. The US Open is run by the USGA. Who pays the winner? USGA?

The USGA. Of the majors, yes. So the PGA takes every dollar? Where does the PGA spend? The PGA pays on their normal events, non-major championship events. So like this weekend. No prize pools.

Go ahead. Well, I mean, there is a prize pool. But then the PGA pays those bonuses, which are significant. Like the player impact program and like the FedEx Cup. That all comes from the PGA Tour. So the PGA Tour is like, you know, Patrick Cantlay last year, I think he won the most because he won the FedEx. He won like $27 million on course, which, again, that's a lot of money.

How many majors, though? He won zero majors. Oh, so that's all from the PGA Tour right there. Yeah, that's from regular PGA Tour events. I mean, that FedEx Cup bonus, he won the FedEx Cup, which is like a season-long race, and he got $15 million from the PGA Tour for that. But if you're a player in that league, and I'm just starting to think as somebody that would be in that league thinking,

the amount of eyes on golf for, what, three straight days, basically, for most people, the amount of sponsorship money, the amount of partnerships that you have, everything, and they only have to pay out the biggest prize pools. You could see how these players would be like, fuck these people. I could see how that, how has that not happened before will continue to be my question,

that Liv is the first one. And I guess... Just a minute. Sorry, just a few minutes, please. Hey, do they have a TV deal, Pat? We're good, we're good. Yeah, CBS, right? CBS, NBC, I assume they have a TV deal.

No, it's on YouTube. Liv? Yeah, no, they don't have a TV deal. They don't have a TV deal because the PGA Tour has long-standing relationships with CBS and NBC. And ESPN just signed this massive deal with the PGA Tour to take over, what's it called, PGA Tour Live, which is like the early round coverage before it goes on TV. So the PGA Tour really did ink a really important TV deal a couple of years ago that went into effect,

and they kind of locked that in before this happened. These players have to hate the PGA Tour. You know, they have to hate them, Dan. Have to. Some of them obviously are not happy, but there's a big divide on the PGA Tour. When you guys think about the PGA Tour, you think of DJ, you think of Brooks, you think of Rory, but for every one of those guys, there's a big divide on the PGA Tour. When you guys think about the PGA Tour, you think of DJ. You think of Brooks.

You think of Rory. But for every one of those guys, there's Lonto Griffin, and there's Matt Neesmith, and there's Sahid Thigala. These guys that you don't hear about, but that's more of the PGA Tour. Yeah, and the PGA says we ain't giving you shit. They say we ain't giving you anything. You're going to have to go literally drive yourself, house yourself. What's that, AJ?

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My bad. But those guys, think about that. The prize pool is 25 mil, and there's only 48 people in the event.

There's so much more money to have and so much more Last place in these events is going to be around 120 grand. I mean, that's what we know. There's a lot of guys

on this list who play on the Asian Tour or the Sunshine Tour, and they would legitimately need to win to win like four events in a row to make 120 grand. So for those guys, it's an absolute fucking no-brainer. Like, no, no, no-brainer. Well, and if you're getting $125 million guaranteed and you're Dustin Johnson, it's like, listen, I wish it wasn't how it was coming. I wish it was different, which might happen, by the way. This might open a – me learning about how the PGA spent no money, basically.

It's an incredible business. It's an incredible business what they've been able to do to get – it's just like the NCAA was for a long, long time, to get all the people that are doing it, basically. Now, granted, there's bonuses. You told me that $27 million and one guy made it. Well, there's bonuses, and part of the prize money is from the PGA Tour for sure.

But the deals, the TV deals, the partnerships, the sponsorships, I mean, it is. The tickets, right? No, the tickets probably the majors go to those people. Anyways, Tiger, this is wild to me. This is a pretty pivotal time in golf, it feels like, Dan. Oh, well, I feel really, really lucky to be.

I mean, that sounds self-serving. But, yes, it is a very crazy, dramatic time. I have people texting me who couldn't give less of a fuck about golf, and now they're like, what's going on? What's this? It's still going? It's still going? I mean, it's dramatic.

It's really dramatic. But it changes the course of everything almost for the future, right? It's once-in-a-generation stuff. It happened 27 years ago. The PGA Tour escaped mostly unscathed, and we'll see what happens here. Ty, your question. We can't thank you enough for your time right now, Dan. No, of course.

Dan, in terms of the coverage, is there any scenario? Because it seems like a lot of people are interested in this and will definitely watch this first event, even if it's on YouTube. Is there any way that they're going to potentially get this on tv or get some sort of network deal or is it ultimately just because the saudis don't give a shit how it does like is it kind of probably something that's just gonna stay on youtube and if you find it that's great but yeah no i think their goal is definitely to get a tv deal because while the saudis might not give a shit i mean the guy that the saudis hired to run the business probably gives a shit, right?

There are still people in there who want this to be successful. So right now they're in the proof of concept phase where they need to show that they can run a golf tournament, that people are going to get paid the money that they say they're going to get paid, and that the world's not going to end. And once that happens, then they'll start to, you know, I guess this is what they're wanting to do. They want to get their feet under them and prove that we're a viable product. And that's why the PGA Tour pulled the plug so quickly. They don't want to let this thing get off the ground.

They said, OK, make a choice now. Make a choice now. You choose us or you choose this YouTube platform and this unproven thing. So it was a strategic move on the PGA Tour. Yeah, well, unproven still has $125 million behind it. Dustin Johnson was like. That's that oil money, bro. There's no bottom.

Dude. I think each tournament is paying out $25 million per tournament, correct? All seven I've read? It is. It is. And for 48 guys, and everyone gets paid. Jesus. And appearance fee is probably for any guy that wants to go over and play in it that's worth a notable name at all.

Exactly. Anybody that you guys know is getting significant... I mean, I know they were paying guys just to play in the Saudi International, which was like an European tour, an Asian tour event. They were paying guys that you guys know is getting significant. I mean, I know they were paying guys just to pay in the Saudi international, which was like an European tour, an Asian tour event. They were paying guys who you guys have never heard of 80 grand by and flying them over and flying them back. All right, boys, this is what we got to do. We got to get a shit ton of money so we can put together our own golf league

and we can pay these golfers and put on a good day. Here we go. All right. That's what we need to do. This is a wild time, but we can't thank you enough for joining us. PGA tour insider, which by the way, you're going to be busy, it feels like, over the next couple months for Golf Digest's Northwestern alum. We can't thank you enough, ladies and gentlemen, Dan Rappaport. Thank you, Dan.

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Got to be a human. Bingo. Unlike Tom Cruise. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Wong. What are you doing, man? Thank you. Glad to be here. Hey, it's an honor to have you. Obviously, Wheels Up has paid for you to be a part of this, the match thing.

I mean, I've never seen a more perfectly placed. I did not expect that. I appreciate the hell out of you for joining us. Very busy. You're hosting the pre-show and you're uh an analyst for the match are you walking on the course what should we expect here today you think no i'm sitting right next to chuck so uh hopefully gonna just throw it down with chuck and we're gonna two guys with terrible golf games analyzing professional athletes golf games it's just gonna be a beautiful thing

pat have you been doing your research because there's been a lot of shit talk i mean tom brady's been burying josh allen Oh, yeah. Aaron's kind of gone after Patrick Mahomes a little bit. The young guys have shot back at the older guys. The older guys, I think, are going to be a bit more savage. Have you been doing your research? Are you going to be talking shit, or are you lifting the boys up, you think, during the whole thing?

I have been doing my research. I think the shots have been fired pretty hot and heavy early. I'm very interested to see what's left in the tank in terms of shots. I mean, on one hand, it's difficult. I don't have a Super Bowl. These guys, three of them got Super Bowls. Very difficult to talk shit when three guys got Super Bowls, you don't have one. But I know that. So I'll M&M myself right out of the gate. I'll eight mile myself and I'm going to tell them, listen, I don't have a Super Bowl. I get it.

I haven't been past the second round. I get it. I've been hurt. Got it. All three. Out of the way. And now I start taking shots at your old asses, and Josh couldn't beat me in the playoffs.

So there we go. This is going to be magical, I can already tell. And I think AJ is about to fire in with more shit talk question. He implored Josh Allen to explore the space and the shit talk to Aaron Rogers, I believe, because Aaron will be ready. AJ, your thoughts for JJ Watt and what the shit talk will be today, pal. Well, I think that the talk is going to be amazing. It's going to be. We'll see how serious it gets.

But, JJ, I wanted to ask you, are you there for two reasons? One, obviously, to host the show and to make great content, but I feel like you may be there in case like a protester tries to glue their head to the green or something. You got to take somebody out. Like maybe a heckler comes under the ropes. Are you going to really jack somebody up if they step out of line? Can you plant that?

Can you plant one for us? That would be the ratings. I'll see what I can do. He does it all the time. I mean, he does it. I mean, you're it in Tahoe. I mean, you're a Rodgers insider. You've got to give me something to go with here.

You've got to give me something to poke the bear, something to get him riled up, or I need something. Is that it, AJ? Man, I mean, there's a lot of different avenues you can take with Aaron. I guess it depends on how he's playing. If he's playing great, he's going to come back at you a bunch. If he's playing terrible, that's when it's going to be fun TV to see you stay like Jovial and keep coming back at him and see how

much he responds. You think he's going to get pissed? Is there any way if their team starts playing bad, do you think there will be any chirping back and forth like him and Tom? Do you think there's anything there? I hope so. You need to play it up. You should do that. If they're playing bad,

be like, come on, Aaron, Tom's not carrying his weight. What's going on here, man? And try to get him going. You do know, A, play it up. You should do that. If they're playing bad, go, okay, come on. Aaron, Tom's not carrying his weight. What's going on here, man? And try to get him going. Well, you do know last year, hey, Tom and Aaron were the conversation of who's going to win the MVP, right? Yeah. Now they're teammates. Oh, I mean, Aaron took my MVP in 2014, so I'm definitely bringing that up.

I'm getting the official titling here. J.J. Watt will host the Bleacher Report app's hot seat press conference at 2.0, presented by Capital One, which will precede the live event coverage simulcast on TNT, TruTV, and Headline News. Okay. Johnny Depp, Amber Hurd, Dine, sub in the match.

Okay. Let's go. Beginning at 6.30 p.m. Eastern time. How is the golf game? I've seen you out in Arizona. It feels like the Watts, the entire family is golfing every day out there. It's beautiful. Pat, I shot an 89 the other day and was thrilled. And then this past weekend, I shot a 118.

So we are all over the map. That's golf, JJ. That's golf. How's yours? You've been practicing. You're getting ready for Tau. How's the game? Well, I tweaked my knee, JJ.

I was wearing Air Forces on cement, taking little swings off the mat into the net, and twisted on the left knee, tweaked it. The thing's been swollen for two weeks, JJ. So I haven't really been able to get any work done, but I do have some fresh J's that are golf shoes that look great out there. I think that's really all I got. Are you wearing jorts in Tahoe, or how are we doing it? Well, that's interesting, because I think I've got to wear fucking pants.

I think at these places that you guys, you two, hang because I think I've got to wear fucking pants. I think these places that you guys, you two hang out at, I've got to wear pants and all that stuff. You're Pat McAfee. Wear whatever you want. You're saying put these bad boys right to the test, huh? Let's go ahead and swing with these. He's turning those down. Let America see what they need to see.

You're right, JJ. Golf courses love denim. Yeah, they love shorts. Also, I mean, I'll have to wear black jorts, though, because the sweat that will be coming out of my ass will be so disgusting. America doesn't need to see that. Let's talk about you, though, JJ. This isn't about me.

Jesus. Okay? Arizona Cardinals team. Ever since that owner, the son of the late Bidwell that passed away, flew to your house in Wisconsin,ed on that lake, remember? Yeah. Like Matthew McConaughey in that one rom-com movie where he lands the plane on the water. This guy lands his plane on your frozen lake, picks you up, flies you down to Phoenix, Arizona.

At that moment, I was like, God damn, this team is going all in, all in. It feels like that has been the case throughout your entire time there. A new seed, a new pillar of the program. Does it feel like that inside there? Outside looking in, it feels like one of the best teams to be a part of right now in the entire NFL. It's a great situation, man. I can't lie.

I mean, we've got a great team. Obviously, we started out 7-0 last year. Had a great opportunity and unfortunately squandered it down the stretch. But we've got a ton of talent, and we have a good mix of young guys and vets who can lead the way, obviously a very talented quarterback. And it's a good organization. I mean, Cliff is a player's head coach for sure. He runs the offense.

Vance Joseph runs the defense. It's very similar early into my career when Gary Kubiak ran the offense and Wade Phillips ran the defense. I think it's great when you have two guys with that level of experience and knowledge. And they're putting pieces together. I mean, you look at what we've done. You had Hollywood and that offensive core. I mean, who the hell do you double team? I mean, you got Zach Ertz, you got Hollywood, you got Hop when he gets back, you got Rondell Moore, you've got James Conner out of the backfield, and then you've got to worry about Kyler running.

How do you stop that? I know Vance Joseph, your D coordinator, you had some history with him in Houston. I know Vance a little bit. Years ago, all he did was talk you up how great you were. He was in Cincinnati when I was there as the DB coach. Was that part of the reason why you decided to go out there? No doubt. I love Vance. He's a a great coach he was with us in the early days uh he runs that a little bit that wade phillips style three four i think we're gonna get even more aggressive with it here as we go and i think comfort level being back in it in year two here is gonna be

is gonna be great and uh he's he's a he was the head coach in denver obviously didn't didn't go the way he wanted to but i think he'll be a head coach again soon he's he's built for it he's got the right mindset the mentality and the knowledge base and uh we're lucky to have him as our d coordinator i enjoy when you start stirring the pot with the internet you know i i like the way you you know view sports media in the day-to-day sports conversations, especially, you know, with the heat on Kyler, your selfie video of him working out going, but, but, but, but, when everybody was talking about him not being happy

is a great piece of content, especially coming from you and with Kyler. Kyler's back in the building today, from what I've been told. You are not. Are you holding out right now? And is it because Kyler came back? What the fuck, JJ?

Ertz with the donuts. Kyler coming back. I mean, I'm not saying that there's problems, but there could be problems. Kyler was in the building yesterday. I saw that he was there. Our media guy came up to me and said, hey, Wednesday

is our only open media session for OTAs. Will you speak afterwards? I said, you know what? I'm not even going to be there. Oh, damn. I got my own media session, 545 Bleach Report app. I got a press conference. How about it?

So you're saying Kyler was there yesterday. Have you sensed at all that we talked to Steve Kime? Steve Kime was like, it's going to get worked out. Cliff Kingsbury, hey, this is business. It it's gonna get worked out Cliff Kingsbury and his business it's gonna get worked out bringing in Hollywood the outside conversation seems to be a lot louder than it feels by anybody inside of it and we get an accurate read with that there's no thought about Kyler not being a Cardinal forever right I mean I don't I definitely don't have that feeling I mean I think that you know how all this stuff yes like players you know that this generally it always takes right up until the end of training camp this

season. So nobody's fretting any of it because we all understand how it goes. I mean, my brother just did his deal last year. It took until the last week of preseason. And it's, that's just the way that these things go. So none of us are worried about it. None of us are, are fretting and I'm sure it'll all get worked out. i look forward to having kyler out there what do you think about kyler i mean your brother kicked his agents out of the way with one leg kicked the agents out of the way with the other leg kicked the fucking door open how much how much money you paying me i want to sign it i gotta go work out this is a good deal thank you that's what the wats do get the hell out of the way, Suits.

Alright? How much they paying me? Too much. I need to work out. That sounds like something you'll be doing here shortly and you're up to something season. I feel like you're going to be kicking down a door saying, deal done. Let's go. Well, maybe. There's a lot of details to figure out with a lot of different people right now, but we're

figuring it out. We're getting there. I'm not good at reading, but it takes me some time. Directly from Twitter, so I know that you are signing with Amazon. You're also signing with FanDuel. You're also signing. You're going to be doing 11 shows a weekend. It's going to be unbelievable.

No, listen, Liz, there's already too much of me. We need to figure out how to make less of me, that whole thing. But let's get back to you chatting about Kyler there. What type of person is he? Right? I think because that sounds like such a terrible question but the dan patrick interview right from super bowl week before he was drafted i think made a lot of people think like oh this guy

is vastly different than any other quarterback maybe we've ever seen but then we've kind of seen him with uh faze clan and other people kind of open up and show his personality and with how electrifying he is and how great he is at baseball potentially. What type of guy is he on day-to-day that we don't get to see? Because it feels like he's maybe one of the coolest dudes of all time and also the most athletic human that we've maybe ever seen. He's unbelievably athletic. I mean, the guy does things that it's just unbelievable.

And you watch everybody try and chase him around out there, and I'm happy I don't have to do it. But he's a different quarterback. He knows that. He's not the traditional quarterback that you look at, either from a personality and media standpoint or from the way he plays the game. And I think that he knows that, and he's accepted it,

and he embraces that, and he's going to do it his way. And that's what he's committed to, and that embraces that, and he's going to do it his way. And that's what he's committed to, and that's the way that he's going to go about things. And obviously at the high school level and at the college level, he's been very successful with it. Now he's doing it at the NFL level, and he's going to be successful with it there as well. Are he and Cliff tight?

I know Cliff's even said, like, hey, I try to get Kyra to talk more, to speak more, I guess, because he does seem to be somewhat quiet, at least in front of the camera. But it seems like he and Cliff are on the same page with everything. Yeah, yeah, they're very much on the same page. I mean, it's very clear that our offense is built around Kyler Murray's skill set. And we're adding pieces left and right to enhance that skill set. And obviously, you bring in a guy like Hollywood, who Kyler's known forever and who's best friends with.

And everybody knows that that's what it takes to win this league is you have to put the pieces around your quarterback to maximize their talents, and that's what Cliff is doing with Kyler. Did you fly on a Wheels Up plane to wherever you are right now? Oh, absolutely. How was the experience? Pretty good? Oh, fantastic. Wheels Up does an unbelievable job with their concierge customer service.

They put a beautiful group there. I felt like McAfee on the way to WrestleMania. Okay, yeah. Well, I don't know if I'll ever get treated like a what. What? But it was a fantastic feeling. Every weekend I see you on a plane somewhere, and then you're flying back, and you're floating above the plane as you go.

It's unbelievable. Yeah, there's quite some altitudes to the altitudes up there. 545 is when you can catch the pre-show that this man will be hosting on the Bleacher Report app. A couple of the boys have some questions for you. JJ, is that all right? Let's go. Are you napping before this?

How are you storing energy? I'm taking a nap right after this call. I'm pretty jacked about it. I won at the casino last night, so I'm just going to take a nap instead of giving it all back. Let's go. That's smart. You're allowed to leave with chips. You're allowed to leave with money. A lot of people forget that.

Learning slowly. Learning that slowly. Yeah. Even if you hit huge on one hand. I was planning on being here for two, three hours to drink some free drinks, but fuck it. There's a lot. I guess I'm going to go elsewhere. You're allowed to do that. People forget.

Go ahead, Ty. JJ, there's been a lot of talk about how the Pro Bowl stinks, and as a guy who's been there like 100 times, is there anything they can do to make it better for the players outside of canceling the game? And would you also tentatively commit to being in like a home run derby, a softball home run derby at said event? What a question. What a great question.

Yes, I do believe that it can be enhanced and can be made very fun. I think that there's just so much on the line for guys with contracts and with everything that it's tough for the game to truly be competitive. But I believe if you do it right and you make it right the guys a love being a part of it like i remember my first ever pro bowl paid man and getting up and giving a speech uh had the whole room dying laughing and then you go down by the pool and everybody's hanging around the bar at the pool you know you're just shooting the breeze you're talking with adrian peterson you're talking with all these guys that you watch on tv and you've looked up to and you're sharing stories and it's

access you never get because it's just the guys and you can looked up to and you're sharing stories and it's access you never get because it's just the guys and you can actually hang out with just the guys. So you don't want to lose that and you want guys to want to go to the Pro Bowl. And I think, like you said, you do some sort of skills competition. You do a baseball home run derby. You toss like some other types of competitions in there. I mean, I remember watching Larry Allen throw up 225 for 750 reps on the bench press. You know, I mean, it was those types of things are cool. And I think that you can find a way to make it fun without having to put the guys at risk health-wise. Hey, they mailed it in on the Pro Bowl. My first Pro Bowl was in Arizona. You remember that? They

didn't rent out the whole fucking hotel. That was a very interesting that was a very interesting decision like i've worked my entire life i watched it in hawaii i watched all the events it looks like a great time everybody's having a blast get to arizona after losing by 50 to fucking patriots two days before that the hotel is not reserved just for nfl folks so jj watts and luke keekle's and drew breezes of the world are getting attacked by autograph hounds, basically. The lobby bar is not just NFL players, although there was NFL. We're getting pretty fucked up there. There's a lot of people that were not NFL people there.

And then we had to drive two hours into the desert for practice, two hours back, and they wanted us to pour concrete in the middle of a playground or something in the middle of the desert. I'm like, this is the Pro Bowl. This is the Pro Bowl. I've never been more confused in my entire life, JJ. I'm like, this is the Pro Bowl. This is the Pro Bowl. I've never been more confused in my entire life, JJ. I'm like, what? They mailed it in.

Why did you have to come to those practices? Why did you even have to attend the practices? There's zero time to punt a ball. There is zero place. And nobody out here knows who the hell you are anyways. But come on this bus for two. The bus was the best part. I mean, that was like, yeah, it was awesome.

Chris Carter was in there. You were in there. Who? awesome. Chris Carter was in there. You were in there. Who? Martellus Bennett was in there. Telling stories that had me dying on the bus. And then he started talking about his video game company that he was creating and the production company with, like, the kids' shows. And I was like, this guy is brilliant.

This guy has got a lot going on up in that mind, and it is impressive. But, yeah, those bus rides, man, those were the best. It all happened, by the way, for Marty B. Like, he created a full anime. Everything he said, like, was happening. It was like, God damn, I feel like I got a front row seat to the brain there. But it was quite an experience, the Pro Bowl. I really thought they mailed it in.

And, you know, it would be nice if they got that. What do you want it to be? Mostly what you said. But it has to be, and you can't say this because you're in it and you've been paid a lot of money and everything like that so you would sound like a pretentious asshole if you're to say this i think as a fan and as a we're in a thought shop here a brainstorm i think there should be actual prizes up for grabs like if you offer up like five hundred thousand dollars to the winner or something and by the way five hundred thousand

dollars to that person's charity or thought, like you're going to get a lot more effort. You're going to get guys actually going in there. As opposed to saying, well, I can't tweak a hamstring for $20,000 or $30,000, like $500,000, maybe you get a little bit more effort, a little bit more enthusiasm, plus the charity aspect of it. I think you can really do some shit. I mean, back when my very first Pro Bowl, the game was actually still somewhat of a game.

I mean, it was not anywhere near a true NFL game, but there was legitimate tackling and there was stuff going on. I mean, you watch that Sean Taylor video and you're like, those days are gone. Nobody's going to be decapitating anybody on the field anymore. Except for Clay Matthews trying to block a punt. There's got to be some middle ground there. I agree with you. You want the guys to play. You want the guys to block a punt. There's got to be some middle ground there. I agree with you. And you want the guys to play. Like, you want the guys to want to play.

I think that's another thing that's happened nowadays is so many guys are dropping out. You've got the fifth, sixth alternate in the game. And they're putting on their Insta bio, Pro Bowler. And you're like, all right, all right, sixth alternate. Yeah. Well, it's just like the people in the offseason. There's 100 people on the team. They're in the NFL right now in their bio.

You know, in a couple months, are they going to take that off or not? Because they're probably going to be selling insurance. It's interesting times. Wait, whatever else. Taking it to the Instagram reels and TikToks. You've got a guy picked off the fourth stringer in practice, and it's all over Instagram like he's a Hall of Famer. Still happening. I assume it's only growing i mean that is the thursday uh

all pros or friday all pros are always now they have access to public yeah you know getting a chance to kind of market that whole thing it's much be a different time you've been in the league a long time now jj fucking long time you've seen a lot of changes in sport i was thinking about this this morning you know that i'm going into year 12 and I'm getting ready to call the match and so I'm looking up the guys and everything. Tom has been in the league for like 11 years more than I have. That is mind-boggling.

Aaron too. Aaron's old. Nobody really talks about it because he's in great shape and he's playing great football. He's what, 30? Yeah, 38 this year, I think. No end in sight, JJj no end in sight for that guy if he wants to just he'll be able to throw the ball forever how's your body feel you feel good i feel great man i really the arizona weather has been unbelievable i've been training down

there all off season and in the heat on the natural grass buddy our strength coach is doing an unbelievable job the body really does feel great it's it's been great i've been enjoying it and i'm looking i'm really looking forward to working with the guys i've been having a lot of fun and uh i'm loving it do you think uh buddy was pissed off about the donut selection from zackerts too i mean kind of thought that he did that to you no he had no problem getting the exact donuts buddy wanted he had the exact ones buddy wanted and zackerts sounded like he had never heard of a strawberry frosted donut in his life he he was mind blown that a pink frosted donut existed and we haven't settled it yet we haven't said oh listen i was a zackerts fan he sounds like an uncultured swine yeah not

even talking about a strawberry glazed donut and i actually felt a little bit bad afterwards because the internet came pretty hard. I don't know if you're familiar with the internet, with your show and everything, but the internet can be a little psychotic and people just roasted it. And I was like, all right, he brought donuts to the facility. No, no, no.

I don't want to say that I tried to gaslight those particular comments. I was firmly in your corner in this particular one. If somebody was to tell me, hey, donuts are coming tomorrow morning, and I don't know if you eat donuts on a regular basis. I would assume you don't. But you wake up going in there to work out. Oh, my God, I forgot.

Fucking good buddy Zach Ertz. Bringing me donuts in this thing. I'm going to go push this thing. And then he opens these. Everybody gets donuts but you, pal. I mean, fuck. What was that? I changed my breakfast

that morning exactly based on the fact i was going to be having donuts at the facility zach earth doesn't want to talk about that that's right he doesn't want it he doesn't want it we'll we'll have him i'll have him explain sometime we'll have a follow-up twitter and he can explain himself but they're really he's one of the nicest humans on the planet, but he's on the list right now. Yeah, well, I mean, who's the real Zach? You know, that's the thing we're all wondering. I guess time will tell. Connor, your question for JJ.

Yeah, JJ, we all love the quarterbacks, but is there any thought of doing a match with D. Lyman, maybe even like the Watts versus the Boses perhaps, you know, maybe a little family feud action? Connor, here's what I want to do, and here's what I might toss it out there to Chuck today or to somebody today. We got these guys who are obviously good golfers.

They're great athletes. They go out there, they play. Maybe they shank a shot here or there, but for the most part, they're playing pretty good golf. I want a match where we drink beer. What? Play real golf. What? What? Play real golf. What?

We are in the woods. We are on different fairways. We're playing as you. I don't know how good you are, Connor. Terrible. But if me and my brothers are going out to play and we're shooting a 110 and we're drinking beers, I want to watch that. And I want it to be mic'd up.

I want to hear. You know, I want the club slams. I want possibly a 56 degree thrown into a pond. watch that and i want it to be mic'd up i want to hear you know i want the club slams i want possibly a 56 degree thrown into a pond i want the cussing and the trash talking i want to watch that yes yes are we doing that you're gonna have to fill like five six hours tonight on air you got nothing but time oh i'm tossing ideas out left and right time Tom has a $350 million media deal. Trust me, this is my $350 million. $375 million. $375 million.

Whatever it is. Why does he need it? How much money does he need? What is he trying to do? They're trying to buy a team, JJ. I think, honestly, hey, here's a real question. Peyton was holding court, like you said, at Pro Bowl. The Mannings are trying to get an ownership,

from what it sounds like, alleged reports. Tom Brady's trying to get an ownership. Is JJ White's family get an ownership from what it sounds like alleged reports tom brady's trying to get an ownership is jj why why family getting an ownership is that why tj kicked the agents out of the way excuse me this is the amount we need to get on the right track to buy a goddamn fucking team i need to go sign this deal immediately is that what future thoughts are you owning a team jj i mean i'm not the one that's flying around with ursa on his jet and that is constantly at the Colts. And, you know, I mean, one of us does seem to be looking at ownership here. It's not the guy in the wheels up shirt.

Oh, you're talking about the guy in the tank top? The guy in the tank top and the gold chain. How cool would it be to fucking be an NFL owner, dude? That money is only going like this, JJ. You hear me? It's only going like this. Ursae golfs right next, the course right by

my house down in Arizona, he is there all the time. And it doesn't look like a bad life. Do you talk to him? We literally just missed each other the last time that we were out. I was talking to one of his, I think it was his number two, we were out there. But I just missed him. But his plan

is literally to be here all the time. Guys, guy loses a good life. Seems to do ownership properly. Yes, he has a museum that travels around with him while he plays the guitar with other legendary musicians. Yes. Around places. You get into a convo with him, JJ. Grab a chair. Okay?

And buckle up. There is about to be two to three hours of the most legendary stories that you've ever heard. And there are going to be metaphors and questions coming at you. Might be rhetorical. Might want an answer. Going to have to read. Going to have to read. You know, I haven't always hit a home run in those particular situations.

He'll send out a question. Oh, yeah. Well, he does not want an answer. I'll just set it for the next one. I mean, he is worth a convo, J.J. Last question here. Go ahead, Tone Diggs. J.J., I just want to thank you first for motivating T.J.

to try to get to those three defensive MVP awards. Thank you for that. We appreciate it. But also, why do you hate your brothers, and why didn't you go play with them last year? Oh, Tone, that is a conversation for another day. Free agency in itself is a full-blown conversation for another day, and there's definitely stories from it that I will tell.

Oh, really? Like when you're retired and stuff? At some point. There's some interesting things there. Are you angling for $375 million from somebody right there? I mean, you've got to look at what that situation was at the time, too. TJ was up for a contract extension, and he hadn't gotten it there yet. And we were talking there, and I'm always going to want him to get taken care of. So it was just a situation of I want to see him getting taken care of. And also, your own two brothers can you take.

I mean, really. I mean, I hang out with them like 50 to 100 days a year. We text and talk every single day. I mean, do we need to be in a locker room together? Really? Oh, we would have liked it. I think, yeah, Pittsburgh would have loved it. Three wide.

Wide. Let's go. Mine is solid. That defense is fun, man. I love watching the Steelers. I love what Mike T has done. And everything that TJ has told me about Mike T and the way that he does things seems like it is just everything you look for and hope for as a player.

And obviously the Steelers organization is one of the best in history. And it seems like they do stuff first class the right way up there. And so it does look like a special place to be. And I'm lucky that both my brothers are there. Yeah, they speak so gloriously about Mike T and that whole place i can barely hear what you're saying my whole fucking thing just broke but you're it's echoing off of this i you're sounding great that that's what i'm fucking with every i'm listening to you my phone is it is a glorious place i apologize for this unprofessionalism go ahead aj please jesus last one for me for me uh do you can

you give a pick tonight? Are you allowed to say who you think will win the match? Minus 186 right now. I have no clue if there are rules. Maybe I'm not supposed to. I'll take a pick. I'm going with Tom and Aaron. I think that they're going to win.

From what I hear, I think Aaron is the best of the crew. I think Tom also has another 180-yard hole out in his bag at some point just because he always does something spectacular on the course. I think Pat has played this course a ton. I played this course with Pat at the Justin Timberlake, Jimmy Fallon thing a couple weeks ago. And they were like, yeah, Pat's been out here like 15 times this year. It's unbelievable.

So he knows the course well. Josh, I'm told, is dialed in from 150 yards in. A little erratic off the tee box. So I'm going with the older guys with the experience. That's who I think. And maybe I just got myself kicked off the broadcast. I don't know. No, no, you can't.

545, the whole show starts on the Bleacher Report app with the last press conference that this man will be hosting before the 630 blast on true tv tnt and headline news can't wait to watch it jj you're the best buddy i appreciate you guys i love it every time and i hope to talk to you again soon good luck on the nap too you know because downstairs there's a casino calling you know it's hard to take naps in vegas oh no no, no, no, no, no. Don't you dare. I'm going to nap it out. In the basement, it's going, there's more money to win. That's what your pillow seems to say, too,

as soon as you put your head down in that city. Maybe just a little. Maybe just a little. I don't know. Maybe just a little. Couple hands. You're J.J. Watt. You always win.

Can't wait to watch you on the Bleacher Report app. Can't wait to watch the match tonight, 6.30. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Watt. Yeah! report app can't wait to watch the match tonight 6 30 you're the man ladies and gentlemen jj wong then he popped up and like wasn't it tom right before the movie started like hey guys i put a lot of heart and soul with bro like he basically had a little promo before you want to shut that one off neil whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa yeah neil ne? No. Tom comes on just one shot. Tom sitting in a chair talking like legit seems so happy and so excited to present his

movie. The fuck? That would have been. You better be fooling. Are you joking? I am not fooling, Ty. I promise. Mission Impossible into Tom speaking directly to us right into that Top Gun?

Yep. Oh, my God. Tom's never been hotter. Neil's ass is grass. I'll go slash Neil's tires right now. Legitimately. Is he texting Neil and asking him why we didn't get the conversation with Tom Cruise before the show? What the fuck?

It was about 45 seconds maybe. Can he send that to us at least? Do we know if this is real though? Pretty straight forward. He said he wasn't fooling. Nick, did you have it in yours? He did say he wasn't fooling. No, but it at yours he did say he wasn't fooling yeah no but it was the same theater so it could still be Neal

fuck what are they doing to us hey Ohio Ohio here we go January 1st 2023

legalized sports betting let's go so that's what goes into effect FanDuel is coming to town January 1st 2023

your bets actually mean something now so when you're just going all willy-nilly, I put $100,000 on Detroit Lions. I'll do this. Now we're going to find out. Welcome to the game, Ohio. We are pumped to have you.

It is going to be a blast. Five months from now. God damn it. Six months from now. Seven months from now. So it goes into effect, though. You can start gambling at the start of the new year. Yes, that's what they're saying.

That's awesome. Cincinnati Bengals have a game the next day, I believe, Monday Night Football against the Bills. Really? On January 2nd, I believe. Then you've got playoffs. Let's go. You're missing out on a very large portion of the longest seasons the NFL has ever had to gamble upon.

Yeah. But legislators don't care about that. No. But you will be able to get massive Monday Night Football game right into the playoffs when it matters. So do all your research all season so you know that whenever football that matters comes around, you're going to be dialed in.

And we're going to be taking FanDuel's money at an even bigger level when Ohio joins the party and we fucking take them for all they got, AJ. Hell yeah. I'm excited, man. Honestly, it's not through you guys and through FanDuel I've started to get into it and pay more attention and everything. But the fact that I could actually do it,

I felt like this day would never come. Yeah, it's regulated. It's safe. I assume the first couple weeks in every state, the legislators are not that open for booths, and they have to have control over everything. I believe from what I've known, uh, like the first couple of weeks are always the toughest to get things through

because, you know, bureaucracy of the government wants to make sure, Hey, we won't make sure this is being run white or right, which is what we mean is we want to make sure we're getting a proper cut of all this stuff. So sometime bonuses and super boosts, not necessarily the widest of margins.

Does that help our state? What are we doing here? So for the first couple weeks, maybe Ohio will be different. I hope Ohio is different. There have been some states that have just hopped right in and been just like everybody else. But it does feel like sometimes when new states come in, the first couple weeks, it's not as easy to get boosts in some states not all states like the new state or something like like there is always those types of things that happen but in the long haul it will be amazing and i am so excited for ohio and i'm

thankful that they've got it passed and was this gonzo's last was this his last ride do you think did it again sounds like it gonzo Son of a bitch did it. His legacy. And for every bad thing that's said about the NIL deal, also his legacy because he was one of the ones spearheading the potential to get out there and instead he got kicked out. Got booted. Can never quite get ahead. 10, 15 years from now, I don't know what

all will be said about Gonzo's political career, but I would like those two to maybe exist. Yeah. Yeah. And remember that he, you know, was the one that brought sports gambling to Ohio. Yeah. Let's make sure it's remembered. Yeah.

Was he? I assume there's some other person that's very pissed that we just said that in Ohio. Well, that guy too, though. That guy. Or Lady. Or Lady. Both of them. All three of them.

Did either one of them? Probably a group of people. I assume everybody came together over there. Both of them. All three of them. Probably a group of people. I assume everybody came together over there. Congratulations. Do you know how closely these John Sheerans and the Wizards that set the lines there at FanDuel will be looking at the Ohio State Buckeyes? Oh.

Those lines will be the most. I didn't realize week one, Ohio State, Notre Dame, FanDuel won't be here yet. No, but just in the future. Everybody in Ohio is an Ohio State Buckeye fan, basically, right? I mean, that is kind of, if you're not. Yeah, up north, up north of Michigan, some of them. I know some Columbus people that are Michigan fans, by the way.

Yeah, there are. I mean, there's plenty of, yeah, there's people. It's fine. Not in the chop house. I mean. Well, there are. I mean, there's plenty of, yeah, there's people. It's fine. Not at the Chop House. I mean. Well, that's how you dance. True. That's all that matters going into Chop House. That's right. What are your dance moves like?

Can you eat steak here? We don't know. How can he dance? Huh? Can you back it up a little bit? Is that place still going? Is Urban working for Fox or what? Does that happen? Is that official? That's what they keep saying it, but he's not signed, is he?

Whoever's leaking it needs to stop because we have to react the same exact way every time. That's right. We have to. Are they checking this show, you think, to gauge a reaction of what the general public will feel? Not this show. Nobody cares about this show, but the Internet's reaction is the exact same. We're pretty basic dudes on this show. If we are doing it, there's probably a good chance there's a lot of people that are reacting the same way.

But how could you not? How could you not after the catastrophe that was last season for him as an NFL coach, his first time back on the sidelines, actually making decisions as opposed to being on the sideline with a whistle and a suit? I mean, it's just a wild scene, the whole thing. Especially when you're trying to replicate Game Day and those sets were kind of smaller, but they packed people in there like, you know how many signs are going to be on TV? They're just going to keep

rifling those things through with fingers going in bungholes and stuff like that. There's no way they're going to stay on top. Think about the ingenuity. The engineering. This is funny, Ty. It's funny that you say that, but that would be a real worry of mine if I was a producer. No kidding.

What are you talking about? Every week. Every week. The entire time the show's on the air. People are too creative. People are so damn creative. And they got time. They got time.

People got time for those signs, especially if it's going to be, if that gets on for 10 seconds on TV, that's on boom ripped post clip this is what i did hilarious let's go out tonight celebrate this let's do that i mean it's maybe they don't mind though it's free pub for the show maybe they don't care okay well okay i mean maybe there's no way to lean into it i mean they did tebow bad and he didn't do anything nearly as terrible as ever my they're going to destroy him. What did they say about Tebow? Oh, they had to take down signs. He was doing first take live from.

Yeah, right over his shoulder. There was four people standing four feet behind Tebow holding signs that were not nice to Tebow. Yeah, Tebow can't block. What do you mean? Yeah, like just elementary level stuff. Nothing super serious. But taking shots of him as a football player and everything like that. And it was one literally right there.

Yeah, right there. Like you standing back here, this sign of you, that's like where the person was. And then they come back in the last shot. Well, I guess me down there, you can't see the agent. I wouldn't feel very comfortable doing that. I put a puck right through your fucking gut. You did.

That's pretty sharp. But Tebow was doing a hit on first take, like right here. And this person was holding a sign right there that was like, Tebow is terrible at football or whatever. And we literally walked in. I was watching it, and I was like, is that what they're promoting to happen every single time Tebow goes live from a campus or whatever?

And then it came back on the other side. That sign was gone. Nobody was there. Didn't happen again. It was like, all right, I guess they told the single person who had a problem with football or with Tebow was all by himself. But that's what Fox is going to have to go on the run. Yeah, and that was one person. They're going to have to tell 250 people to take their signs down, which probably isn't going to fly.

Here's a Tebow sign. He looked up one of the Tebow signs here. Timbats 226. Yeah. There's like five people standing. That's not too bad. That's all right. That's what I'm saying.

Like, it was elementary level stuff, but it was still like. I mean, hitting 226 is okay. Mendoza. I mean, he's a football player that went to try to play baseball. Yeah, but I'm just saying the first two lines, okay. Mendoza. I mean, he's a football player. He went to try to play baseball. Yeah, but I'm just saying the first two lines, okay. And then the last two lines is the burial, I believe. I don't know baseball well enough, but I think that is the case. Yeah.

I'm saying the guy stinks at baseball. Of course. Well, we don't know. 2.26 isn't bad. It's a whole team. Not in single A. It's not great. Oh, single A because.

Did I play against a single A pitcher probably? A couple of those guys, probably. Probably. First pitch I seen, pal, 90-something. Bang, contact. If I'm doing it, well, curveball, I'm going to slow down. So I think that's the determiner, right? And that's all they threw at Diva, right?

They just threw eight curveballs a game. All right, Tim, all these people are here to see you, huh? Get your cameras out. Oh, fuck. Strike. Jesus. Well, help me. Eight cameras out. Oh, fuck. Strike. Jesus. Well, help me. He probably said that. Eight curveballs,

one fastball. They wanted to see if he could maybe get a chance on one of them. Well, that was the big thing. Whenever I was going to play my game, they were like, if this pitcher throws anything other than gas, he will be mocked and ridiculed by everybody in baseball for the rest of his life. That he doesn't think that his fastball is good enough to beat somebody that has never stepped foot into a batter's box before.

See, he did that first pitch. Everybody told me, hey, the first pitch is going to be the best pitch you see all night. So I'm mid-conversation with the fucking ump and that thing's coming. It's like, all right, I'm swinging at this. I felt it hurt the hell out of my hands, but I could see in that moment how people enjoyed the activity of baseball. Oh, yeah. And come to find out you actually hit lefty. Yeah, right. the hell out of my hands, but I could see in that moment how people enjoyed the activity of baseball. And come to find out, you actually hit lefty.

Yeah, right. That was oppo. I mean, the fact that you're just learning that at 33 or whatever it is. I never played baseball. What do you want from me, dude? I never played. Normally, your golf swing is the same as your baseball swing. No, that's not true, because Tom Brady bats lefty, golfs righty,

throws touchdowns with his right hand as well. Thielen just came on and said, you know, actually playing baseball hurts because of his golf game. See? Two different swings. No, he's saying he doesn't want it to mess up his golf swing. No, I was just saying usually that's a similar swing to where if you do one right, you're going to do the other one right.

Hey, is he legit shoot potential to win Tahoe? I think so. If anyone absolutely can shoot under par. So I think, yeah, he could do it. I'm not saying he will, but he can. Who's Big Dog friend of the show? Kyle Williams. Kyle Williams is a fucking player.

I played with Kyle round one last year. Shockingly, that was my last round I played with him because he was in the lead after day one. He's going up the top of the charts there. What's winners shooting every day, AJ? Like, even par? Uh, I don't know. Their exact score, because it's that Stableford thing. Yeah, I mean, even par

or under, yeah, I would think. Definitely get even par. Every single shot matters, too. Every shot. We are a few years out from ever competing in that, it sounds like. You gotta get those par fives, you gotta hit eagles. Right? competing in that, it sounds like. You got to get those par fives. You got to hit eagles. Yeah. Right?

Yeah. Yeah, it'd be nice. Believe me, I say it every year. My brother's like, you can hit the ball far. We should really take advantage of these par fives. I'm like, yeah, I'm trying. But every time I keep getting eights and nines on these suckers, I put two out of bounds.

You do hit the hell out of a golf ball. I don't understand how you're not a great golfer. Well, because I hit the ball out of bounds. You do hit the hell out of a golf ball. I don't understand how you're not a great golfer. Well, because I hit the ball out of bounds. That's what it is. Or I pour. Every once in a while, I get a case of the old Tops off the tee, and it goes 50 yards. I can scramble like a madman, though.

Yeah, but can't you dial that in just a tiny bit? You've got to play to dial it in, don't you? I'm still waiting to get out for my first round this year. You're at the – You went to the range. Yeah. You went to the range two dial it in, don't you? I'm still waiting to get out for my first round this year. You're at the – You went to the range. Yeah. Two weeks ago. I told –

You loved it. June 10th is a Friday that I'm going to have to miss. It's one of my – It's a deal I've got to go. I'm going to go play a scramble. June 10th. It's next Friday. Oh, jeez.

It's one of those deals, you know. One of those deals I signed up for, you know. I told you. I got one about a week or two after that, too. Jesus. A couple deals. It's my about a week or two after that, too. That's my guy that hooked me up with the Ryder Cup, though, so I'm definitely going to that one. This guy networking while we're trying to work.

A week or two after the 10th, too. It's the Friday, I think, before Tahoe. Oh, yeah. If it's the Friday before Tahoe, that's good news, because I think we're going to be live from somewhere on Friday. I think. that's good news because I think we're going to be live from somewhere on Friday. Oh, okay. Things are coming together, I think.

That's cool. We'll be off that week at Tahoe, I think, and then maybe the week following. I don't know. We've got to figure that out. All right. How's your knee? Then we're in the Thunderdome, I think. Oh, yeah.

What's that, pal? How's that knee doing? It's better today. Is it? Yeah. Keep it that, pal? How's that knee doing? It's better today. Is it? Yeah. Keep it moving, though. You got to make sure you keep moving. No.

I got to sit on. You know that. I fucking know that. Once it gets stiff, though, it's terrible. No, I got to keep the swelling, the shit in there. I got to get rid of that. It'll go away. What is that? Pus?

What is it? Blood? What is it? Cartilage? I don't know. No, no. Cartilage is definitely in there. Fluid? Fluid in there, though. What is the fluid in there? What is it? Blood? What is it? Cartilage? No, no. Cartilage is definitely in there. Fluid in there, though. What is the fluid in there?

I got drained one time. The guy took in a thing. Your body sends that fluid to try to protect your joint. Yeah, because I tweaked something when I was golfing in Air Forces on cement. Bad idea. I mean, what was I even doing there? I was really laying into it, too.

I was starting to feel it. And then I hop on a bike and just fucking hit it with a 10-piece real quick. So a tweak. There's no structural because I can put full weight on it, you know? So I can do, like, full. It's just dealing with the swelling, whatever this is. I got this thing drained. My right knee, I got it drained one time. Put a sleeve on.

All right. We all know that sleeves work. Well, a compression sleeve. You should sleep in a compression sleeve. That would help. copper fit i'm not saying wear it around public and wear it at smackdown with shorts on but you could sleep like not a not the copper fit but just the uh you know the sleeves that you get from the training room yeah yeah i mean i have those laying around one of those for sure you're gonna have to go get a copper fit at Walgreens. But I feel much better today than I did yesterday.

And yesterday I felt a lot better than I did two days ago. Oh, you're good. It's going away. Yeah, I'm going to be good. I think I'm going to be good. Drink some water. Well, a lot. I've been drinking.

All right. Good advice. Smart. Here's to the knee getting healed. That's right. But how are you going to have the – it's going to be more of a mental hurdle that first time you try to get back and really go after one. I've done that like four times. Surgery is punting.

I have had to do that. Yeah. First time, couldn't do it. Next time, fucking break it if I have to. Hell yeah. Because that's always the question. Like, hey, is there any more damage I can do to this thing right now? If I swing, is there any more damage I can do to it?

No, you're good. It just hurts. It's just trying to come back. All right, you you said it I'm fucking swinging as hard as I can It's going to hurt so bad Feels like I broke something No you're just sore let's go work on it Reteaching your body how to do stuff After surgery

I think we're one of the shows that chats about it Rehab stinks From surgeries It stinks It is no fun It is it's painful it's very painful it's time consuming it's isolating you're by yourself a lot the trainers have to be you know not only top of the job but also they have to lift morale a lot it is no fun at all you're 100% right so hopefully after this one though i'll just say fuck it give me the big dog and just

swing as hard as i can oh yeah yeah you're not I mean, hopefully you don't need surgery on that. If you do, you'll wait until after your big golf match and tell her how to match. Having a walk, too, a part of this? Yeah, you're going to have to get a car. You're going to have to get some Toradol shots. Do they have Toradol out there? I mean, they have everything else.

I wouldn't be shocking if you went into some trailer and like, oh yeah, you want Toradol? Cool, here you go. Everything else. Yeah, that means. Jesus Christ. This is amazing. I mean, they have like a trailer with chiropractors and people stretching you and all that.

Oh, here you go. I don't, but you can. I will walk right up to them just like I did the Colts doctors. I need a tour de la, please. Pull my pants down. You should do that. Hey, this year you could do it, but they already know. Don't even say anything.

Just go in there Pull your pants down Turn around I'm on jackass A lot of dick and ass In that thing I saw a little bit of 4.5 Did you see Poopies

Blindfold race I have not yet No Get to it Get to it Poopies has maybe The line of the year I mean I

I just watched Top Gun There's a lot of good lines In that I saw the dongs You were talking about In the one scene When he was the old man And all of a sudden These other old guys come out a lot of good lines in that. That's all the dongs you were talking about in the one scene when he was the old man. All of a sudden, these other old guys come out.

A lot of dongs. What do we do? How do you get those guys? How do you think 15 to 16 dongs? Of like 60 years and up. Well, I think that's the only people that would do it, right? That feels like that's all the nudist colonies is all those olds that are just like kind of creepy. Yeah, don't care.

I just gave one to a nursing home and we're like, Hey, we'll give you guys a hundred bucks. If you come in here and just dump your dong out. Fuck it. Bob. Whatever. Yeah.

We know tones doing it. What? Tim, you coming out? A hundred bucks. Show your dick. Yeah. Why not?

Nothing going on. Well, we got bingo tonight, I guess. How long is this going to take? How long are I going to have my dick outside there? 15 minutes? Yeah, fuck it.

Make it 50. That's what it felt like. They were all very excited to have their dongs outside. It felt awkward. So, forget it. When Lord Stanley, Lordo, arrived yesterday, there was maybe 14 to 15 dongs

on one of the screens here because we were watching. We were watching that and then the poopies thing just happened and then Lordo came so everybody got to the show.

Yo, Lordo! And then the show. This company is the worst. This one right here. No. Yeah. Think about how much we paid and we didn't even get

the full movie. We didn't even get the promo from fucking TC before the goddamn movie. No. Yeah. Think about how much we paid and we didn't even get the full movie. We didn't even get the... Well, it sounds like that's on me. We didn't even get the promo from fucking TC before the goddamn movie. That's bullshit. We'll find it on the internet.

I think AJ's full of shit. I don't think that happened. Seems like something I would make up. It does. I bet you could find it on YouTube or on Twitter. I'm sure somebody filmed the screen. Couldn't find it on YouTube.

Maybe it was just the screening I got to see. It was a lot of work That was diesel What, you at the fucking Buckeye Alumni Hall of Fame Club movie theater? Was TC there? I went online and bought the tickets front row Is this Waxner getting it?

Here are Waxies I had six front row tickets, pal Front row? Jesus, you ever been to a movie before? Front? Yeah. Front row? How's your neck feel?

You're going to love Top Gun. I'm not a baby like you guys. I was trying to schedule it. Obviously, it's a big movie. It sold out. It played 75 times, and those are the only seats available. That's crazy that you watched Top Gun front row. That sucks.

I respect it. Thunder Alley. Great time. Was it IMAX, that sucks. I respect it. Thunder Alley. Were you in there? Was it IMAX or? No, not IMAX, but it was a big old theater. Not big enough.

I mean, you're right in there. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I like being up there. I was doing this a little bit in different scenes when they were flying. Oh, yeah. Oh, looks like it's pretty easy to fly a fighter plane.

Yeah, it didn't look that difficult. Just up on the throttle and then you're just kind of That fly a fighter plane. Yeah, it didn't look that difficult. Just up on the throttle. That thing's flying itself. How about that next gen, the fifth gen one? Oh, I think it's sick. That spin move it gave. That had to be United Aerial Phenomenon. Potentially.

Had to be UAP. I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually cruise. Flying stunt work for the end. The person wasn't doing it. Yeah, exactly. He said, fuck it. Get me in there. All right. Let's get out of here. This show stinks. I think we're done. It's in 15, 20. What's that?

Oh, a celebration. Yeah. As of today, AJ, listen to this. Michael Cole has officially been on the air for WWE for 25 straight years.

In those 25 years, working at least one show a week, for numerous years of that 25, I think like maybe a decade of them, working two shows a week, has only missed two shows in 25 years, flying commercially, layovers, staying in Best Westerns, driving hours and hours to get to shows, has missed two shows in 25 years traveling and on the road for the WWE, never taking a break, never stepping away, never taking like a leave and then coming back

and fulfilling anything that he maybe left on the table. 25 straight fucking years changed so many people's lives, changed so many stories, has obviously been a massive piece of why I work for the WWE. I've been very lucky to work alongside of him. In my eyes, the GOAT. Congrats on 25 years. Michael Cole.

AJ, think about that. One of the greatest workers in the history and workers is used in like wrestling as somebody that's in the ring and I don't mean it as that I'm just talking about somebody that for 25 years showed up to his job did exactly what he was supposed to do

performed at a very high level only missed two shows for 25 fucking years unbelievable run congrats to him and thanks to him for everything AJ Only missed two shows for 25 fucking years. Unbelievable run. Congrats to him, and thanks to him for everything, AJ. Well, one of my coaches used to say, like, he's a soldier for the cause. And I feel like Michael Cole is an absolute soldier for the WWE. Like, 25 years, only missing two shows, especially in that crazy world that the WWE is. So he's been there through all the

weird was that with all the wcw and all the back and forth with everybody else oh yeah from the attitude era all the way through the monday night wars through the entire um the um his run as a wrestler uh ruthless aggression era through he's seen the rock in four different forms with the WWE and gone on there. Steve Austin, the entire, I mean. Probably called a few Eugene matches. I would assume. Yeah, probably. I would assume he has.

He's wrestled at WrestleMania, obviously. I mean, he is the soundtrack to a lot of 25 years. And by the way, there's been a lot of stuff he's had to say. You know, there's a lot of things that he's been forced to say on air as the voice of the way, there's been a lot of stuff he's had to say. There's a lot of things that he's been forced to say on air as the voice of the WWE, which is what he was literally titled for a long time through a lot of years of a lot of ideas. And he's just gone out there, showed back up the next show,

gave it his all. I mean, fucking bravo, Paul. Yeah, great. It's cold. What an interesting career that guy has. Yeah. Yeah, he's a massive booze bag. You know what I mean?

Maybe the liver takes a break every once in a while because Michael Cole doesn't. But that guy, if you get him some Jack Daniels and some PBR. What? Oh, yeah. 25 years worth of stories in WWE. Think about that drink. Having a drink with that guy. Yeah.

I mean. Yes. It's awesome. In the stories before. And he still looks so good, though. Having a drink with that guy. I mean... Yes, it's awesome. And he still looks so good though. He could go another 20 years. Got a new haircut too. He's kind of changed the way his hair is being cut. He looks good. He's losing weight. He's getting into shape. He's having fun, I think, on air. I think he's enjoying it.

Is he setting up a program? I don't know if Michael Cole is ever getting back in the ring. He's undefeated at WrestleMania. We need him back. Well, I appreciate Michael Cole a lot. In 25 years straight of doing something and showing up, especially with the travel and the way travel goes, the delays, the amount of time he has spent both running through an airport and sitting in an airport.

Absurd. The amount of miles he has on every airline forever, a billion miles probably in a couple of different airlines. It's unbelievable. Anybody else that's ever been on the road for 25 years straight every single week? Just think about that. On the road for 25 years straight. He missed two. He's been on the road 52 weeks a year, 25 years straight,

still flying commercial. Unreal. Like, that is the thing that gets everybody. The travel is what gets everybody. Everybody hates the travel. That's why people, you look at any profession that involves traveling. The travel part is a massive piece of the conversation because how exhausting it is, how annoying it is, how fucking impossible it is to get to some places that you have to get to to be able to do things.

He has to fly to point 25 years in. This guy's still flying to planes, getting a rental car, driving two and a half hours to a show, then doing the same thing, flying all the way back. hours to a show then doing the same thing flying all the way back i mean it is fucking the competitive stamina of michael cole in the greatness and the level that he's been able to perform at for this long i have nothing but respect for i am it is awesome to kind of be a part of his little tiny a little tiny part of his massive story aj well you guys are awesome together and you were from day one i think it's uh yeah man it's fun to watch it's cool to see like i always think about what's going on in michael cole's head like what could this guy be thinking right now well he's what 60 deaf or whatever too i guess he's 60 deaf because he's had headphones 52 weeks 25 years straight he's had headphones there's a lot of conversations

going on in there including his own i'd assume but think about before he even got to the wwe he was he's covering a war in bosnia yeah he was the first one to talk to david koresh in his journalism career he covered some river fire where he almost died he was stuck in the middle of a fire on the middle of a river out an oil fire or whatever i mean he's covered uh i think he covered a couple presidential campaigns and then he went into the wwe and for 25 years straight he just shows up and does his job like he's a professional journalist.

Like, hey, this is what I do. This is what I got to go. And I feel like I've enjoyed his commentary lately because I've been there so I'm listening to every single word.

I didn't always listen to every single word he said back in the past when I was watching WWE for as long. But now, like, I feel like we're getting a chance to actually the human behind the Michael Cole character is coming out a little bit, I feel like we're getting a chance to actually,

the human behind the Michael Cole character is coming out a little bit. I feel like he's a little bit more comfortable, I hope. And he should be because of how fucking good he is. But absolute legend. A champion of the road, absolutely. And he's always been very good to us. He is actually the man, even though a lot of people think he's kind of a prick. He's very, very nice.

And he dresses like a jackass. Absolutely. Him coming in here with those fucking sandals that he did that day. I thought he looked good. Looked cozy. Looked comfortable. No, he looked like a clown. Wasn't he wearing a full jumpsuit with it?

Well, I don't know if he had the full jumpsuit, but he definitely had the sweats and probably some terrible baseball shirt. He loves baseball. Wearing something similar in Dallas too at WrestleMania. Yeah, dressed like a jackass when we saw him there.

Fool. He said, I'm in a suit, but every other time he'd see me in sweats. Right now, he's probably working. Because not only

is he on the air, he also does a bunch of shit off air, so he's in calls all day every day. I mean, it is nonstop, this guy.

I don't know how he does it. And his wife, incredibly cool. Yoli, cool person as well. Shout out to both of them. I don't know how he does it. And his wife, incredibly cool. Yoli, cool person as well. Shout out to both of them. I don't know when. I don't know if he's going to go another 25 years. We'd assume he's on his back nine,

but we might be wrong. He didn't want to start going back to Bosnia and reporting from war-torn areas, does he? I mean, I would assume at this point, 25 years on the road, he could just hopefully retire. Yeah, he could walk off into the sunset. He'd be bored, man.

Yes, he would have to be on the road. He would have to stay on the road. Because after 52 years of being on the road every single week, there's no way he's able to. They got that RV. He's on autopilot. I bet he's just straight autopilot when he's traveling. He doesn't even look at where he's going. He's got an RV.

He's got an RV. That feels like the right answer. Just travel. Right? Yeah. That would be be sweet i feel like that's the right answer though once he gets out of it he's still gonna have to be on the move because the psychology of him getting out of that life probably not that he's anytime soon and i'm not suggesting that at all i hope he works for at least as long as i'm working how old is he i don't know he doesn't seem old enough to have been there for 25 years, I feel like. I thought he was like 57 or something.

Yeah, 55 is what it was in my head. He looks good, man. He does. He looks good. He's doing well. Still got energy. He's 53, I believe. Looks like he's early 40s, late 30s.

Yeah. Looks good. Takes care of himself, which is surprising because, once again, the amount of booze, the amount of travel that he can just put away. I'm not saying Michael Cole, I don't know anything about his drinking, but a lot of TV people love to booze hard.

Well, and he's going to hear this and he's going to say, only a couple nights a week. No, that's not true. You don't know what he does during the week? I will, yeah, because he always has his he has an Apple Watch, which he speaks into. He's always in his pool drinking Jack whenever I get a text from him.

Cole, it's 9 a.m. Yeah, well, we've got a two-day off. That's right, never too early. Come enjoy this thing. We saw him Wednesday at WrestleMania. He was tuned up, and it was not even 10 o'clock yet. We have some breaking news, which is a complete change of subject. And Zito said this in my ear in a very excited fashion.

Nice. Because Zito has committed his entire life to this over what we all believe has been an entirely too long of a process, too public of a process. We have learned a lot of things about two very notable celebrities through a court appearance that has taken place. There has been a ruling. Johnny Depp has won via Jonathan Lemire, Fairfax, Virginia.

Jury rules in favor of Johnny Depp and his libel lawsuit against ex-wife Amber Heard, who had accused him of abuse. So he gets $50 million, I believe, is what he was suing for. And hopefully his name cleared is what he's looking for. Yeah, so it's up to the jurors. They picked the money. The money has not been set yet. But for him, it's his legacy of like, hey, this is all for gays. I'm not going to stand for this.

Go ahead and do it. And I think as we were watching it unfold publicly, I didn't really talk about it much because $15 million? $15 million was the ruling, I guess, from the jury in Johnny Depp. And I assume Johnny Depp is obviously pumped for the $15 million. $15 million was the ruling, I guess, from the jury in Johnny Depp. And I assume Johnny Depp is obviously pumped for the $15 million, probably in jobs that he potentially lost. Does she have $15 million to pay him, though? I don't know how that will get said.

It would probably be a bankruptcy situation. In the future, there will be some deal struck, I assume. But for him, it's legacy, right? He wants to clear his name. He doesn't want to be known as an abuser. Yes. By the way, congrats to him, by the way, for getting his name cleared. Congrats to him for going through with this.

Because a lot of guys and girls, I guess it does happen in that particular fashion as well, where women beat up their spouse. I think we saw it. I'm not going to out anybody, but there was a former soccer player where it happened. Oh, yeah. And kind of took place. It always gets kind of buried away, and it just kind of lingers around, you know, forever for these people. And I think a lot of people have obviously done it and are terrible people.

But on the flip side, I think there's some people who are like, this is quite a misunderstanding that I don't want to go public with and deal with all the potential backlash that could come from this. That thing being publicly shown was Johnny Depp's best case, right? I think in this entire thing. The public opinion after watching that swayed in a fashion I don't think any of us could have expected because of the previous events that have taken place with this serious of an accusation. Well, yeah, I remember early on, I don't know, Nick or somebody else might know, like the timeline when Johnny Depp was was so there was accusations of him of abuse or whatever and he didn't say anything didn't say anything and then it came out later like no he was

accusing her of abuse so i'm like oh this could get it was like six months went by where johnny depp was a terrible person right oh yeah and he was trending i think and then it came out no no he's accusing the other way and then everybody was like oh so this is a very toxic relationship and then like no they're going to court it was like oh shit here we go and for six seven weeks here the internet has obviously watched every single second of this entire thing and i guess he was in the uk having some drinks celebrating this entire thing yeah when he's on stage wow is announced he was when the when the jury was deliberate and he flew to flew to London and was a part of a concert. Yeah, he was shredding guitars.

Whole different life for Johnny Depp. Yeah, completely. He's probably scared to go into public. Lost a lot of friends, probably, for things that were said about him. I know Downey said he's going to get him in a movie coming up soon to get him back on the screen. Okay. He's going to play a drunk part. I hope.

That'll be a lot of money. A lot of llamas. Make Blow 2. Oh, Love it. How about that? With him sitting at that table at the very end of that thing where they all just drift away. Yeah. That'd be quite a moment.

Oh, no. I'm fucked. I knew it. You fucking rat bastard. Mm-hmm. Boston George actually got out recently. George Young's out? I believe so, yeah.

Is he still alive? I think so. Is his daughter going to say hello to him? I believe so, yeah Is he still alive? I think so Is his daughter Going to say hello to him? I'm not sure I hope He's just trying to make Money for her family

Slippery slope Rest in peace By the way, George Young He did pass away in 2021. And Ray Liotta played George's dad in the movie. He passed away, too. Oh, yeah. Rest in peace, Ray Liotta.

Missed you, Ray. Forgot about that role, by the way. Everybody's talking Goodfellas because how good a movie Goodfellas is. Blow, great movie. Dad, great character. Fantastic. He fucking knew all along. Didn't he?

He did. 3.3 million people were watching live as the verdict was read, I guess. That's just on YouTube, too. I saw over 100,000 on Twitter. People were following this thing. That moves the needle still. Good for Depp. That means that many

people saw them say he didn't do it. Yeah. That does feel pretty good. Good for him. All right, good for us, too. Let's get the fuck out of here. All right? Hockey talk tonight.

Hammered down in about 15 minutes. Get to see the lad from Canada. Can't wait to see him and catch up with him. And watch him continue his heater from his COVID cave of Canada. Oh, yeah. Which, by the way, his bag did not pass the COVID test. That's why it was behind. Makes sense. It's the biggest way in Canada. Oh, yeah. Which, by the way, his bag did not pass the COVID test. That's why it was behind. Oh, exactly.

It's the biggest way in Canada. He said they love masks up there in Canada, by the way. Love masks. Oh, yeah. Hmm. How far is he from where Trudeau is located? I'm not sure. I haven't asked the question, but I'm sure that'll be something that you can send him

in a text. I will do that here shortly. I do need to check in on Goop? See how he's doing? Goop, I think he's going to be good. Hey, I texted Goop last Friday. I texted him because I was pumped for Goop. My wife and I are walking down near,

not downtown Columbus area, just walking down the street going somewhere, and a car starts blaring its horn, honking at me, driving by. A dude hangs out the window and he says, free a car started blaring its horn, honking at me, driving by. A dude hangs out the window, and he says, Free Gump! And yelled. I was like, ah!

It was like three hours after we just finished the show with Gump when he was leaving. Okay. That's awesome. A lot of love for Gump, and he deserves it. Can't wait to get him back as soon as possible. That process is already thinking kicking back off, so here we go.

Here we go. Let's go, Gump. Let's get you back, pal. We miss you, lad. All right, we're out of here. Thanks to Tom Cruise for kicking off the morning the way he did. Thank here we go. Let's go. Let's go, Gump. Let's get you back, pal. We miss you, lad. Alright, we're out of here. Thanks to Tom Cruise for kicking off the morning the way he did. Thank you, TC. Hey, we got to get Tom on the show sometime. Honestly.

Don't you think? Yeah. Why are you looking at me? I don't know if we're going to get fucking Tom Cruise on the show. If we put it out there, we're on on the fucking show, too. That's who we should get. Maybe we could reach out, Hawk. I am doing it right here. I'm reaching out fucking Tom Cruise on the show. If we put it out there, we'll get LeBron on the fucking show, too. That's who we should get. Maybe you could reach out, Hawk. All right.

I am doing it right here. I'm reaching out. Tom, we need you. Tom. Tom, listen. I ain't never seen one of your movies. I've only known you from the couch incident on Oprah. You ever saw Cocktail?

Great movie. Oh, great movie, yeah. No, but I did go to a place called Chasers, which I believe was named after that, right? Oh. Chasers had penny pitchers on Wednesdays in Morgantown. There you go. What a place.

Anyways, Tom, I didn't know you. I just always assumed, what's this Fugue's acting like he's this thing for? I seen Top Gun Maverick this morning. Completely changed my opinion. I need to watch all your movies. I appreciate you for existing and for representing our country, sir. Thank you for everything, Tom Chris. Thank you, Tom.

Thank you, Tom. Love you. If you'd like to have a human conversation with us, we'd love to have you. Yeah. He might be an alien, though. Oh, yeah. Big chance.

He's this tall doing all that shit. And he's a fucking bonafide movie star, that son of a bitch. Yes, he is. Absolute stud. Yeah. I do love how he still stands in the milk crates for some of those scenes. What are you talking about?

You don't know that. I don't need to hear this right now. That was bullshit. You don't know that. He made it up. Never do. I'm up on Tom Cruise right now. He's 6'3", really.

He runs 75 miles an hour. That's no joke. Dude, perfect knee drive arm swing, AJ. I know. Knee drive arm swing. It is class. It is clinic. He seems like that guy.

I bet you Tom is that guy where he wanted to look good running in film, and I bet he hired someone to teach him proper form. He's doing A skips and B skips before everything. I need perfect. His hands. I bet Tom has a very in-depth, long warm-up routine before he does any of those action scenes. Absolutely.

At his age, he would have to. The fact that he's still doing all that and committing all that so we can enjoy the hell out of that two hours and 20 minutes or whatever, I'm very thankful. Tom, you want to come on the show and talk to some humans? Come on.

Hell yeah. We love aliens around here. Yeah. And we love you. And we love you, Tom. I'm watching Mission Impossible tonight. Which one's the best one? Ghost Protocol.

Good one to start with. The first couple are good, though. They are, but they're not. I mean, just fucking dive right in. You know what you're getting with TC. Now just dive right in. Edge of Tomorrow is also very underrated. That's a good TC film.

Hey, he's a badass motherfucker, this guy. Yeah. Did you see him riding along in that fire point? Yeah. You've seen Tropic Thunder. Lex Grossman. He's good in that. I've seen a little bit of Tropic Thunder for sure. He's awesome seen Tropic Thunder. Lex Grossman. He's good in that. I've seen a little bit of Tropic Thunder for sure.

He's awesome in Tropic Thunder. It's a cameo at the end pretty much, right? I know you love Tropic Thunder. No. It's my favorite comedy movie of all time. Jack Reacher. Filmed in Pittsburgh. Never seen it.

Yeah, but I'm sure it's great. Did he get through Plum or no? Did they stop by Dallas, LA too? No, he wasn't there and Mario was filming there. Really? Oh, yeah. They ordered a drink? Did he hit that little wheel thing?

They had the little wheel thing. It was after hours. They would film at like 1 a.m. on weeknights. Rock of Ages, if you're into musicals, he rocks. We could name every fucking move in TC's library if you'd like us to. He's good in every movie that he's ever been in. Is he the greatest actor of all time? Yeah, he's our generation.

In terms of just like box office appeal, being a star, knowing exactly what you're getting out of every TC movie, yeah. Tell you what, you go through his IMDb, it's hard to find a bad one. Eyes Wide Shut, AJ Lozo. That's about what's going on, right? Allegedly, I've heard about that movie, Eyes Wide Shut. It's always thrown by people that are trying to take a shot at the situation that we're either going into or leaving or whatever. This is potentially an eyes wide shut situation. Just keep your head peeled or whatever.

It's like... Okay. What is that? Everybody's banging everybody? I don't know. I've never seen the movie. With masks on. Yeah.

Is that what they do? They fuck her? It's a big orgy with masks? Oh, it's a mask party. It's a furry convention? Yeah, mask parade party. I've never gone to one of those. And 95s or other masks?

Why would somebody say it's weird? Where do they have them these days? Were people dying in those? In Eyes Watch Out? Yeah. Some of them, maybe. Why were they dying? Like, monkey park situation? Potentially. Rain Man. Another good one.

Yeah, Rain Man's classic. That's what I'm saying. TC's a fucking legend. He funded this one, I guess, allegedly, is what we'm saying. TC's a fucking legend. He funded this one, I guess, allegedly is what we were learning. He funded a lot of Top Gun here. Really? Yeah, he gets like 75% on the back end or whatever. Yeah, that's right.

This is his biggest one yet. Oh, you saw American Made. I did. He was great in that. Oh, what do you know? Yeah. TC, I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

You've been sleeping on TC. Wake up. Yeah, he's unbelievable. How about that I'm telling you, you've been sleeping on TC. Wake up. Yeah, he's unbelievable. How about that? Hold on. He took off today. It was very reminiscent to the trees in American Made. True.

Yeah. Wow. He's flown that flight before. Oh, yeah. Guy's awesome. I can't wait to learn more about the little fellow. All right, we're back tomorrow. Hammer Don's in 15 minutes or so on YouTube.com forward slash hammer.

Don! And Nick, that's hockey talk tonight. It should be great. Any guests tonight? I don't know, actually. I'm waiting to hear from Rupert. All right. Surprise guests.

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